>>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. I YIELD TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON FOR TODAY'S INVOCATION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR. GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE WILLIAM PETERSON. DEDICATED MINISTER AND EDUCATORS IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN THE LIFE AND CHRIST COMMUNITY CHURCH. A RETIRED ARMY FIRST SERGEANT HAVING HONORABLY SERVE $FOR 20 YEARS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE AND HIS LOVELY WIFE CO-FOUNDED THE HOPE FOR TOMORROW COMMUNITY CENTER WHICH AIMS TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM FOR MENTAL HEALTH, WELL BEING, TO REDUCE VIOLENCE AND PRESENT EDUCATION AND LOWER CRIMES. WELCOME, PASTOR WILLIAM PATTERSON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING. >> PASTOR PATTERSON: FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS AWESOME DAY, FATHER GOD. FATHER GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US TODAY, FATHER GOD. ESPECIALLY OUR LEADERS, FATHER GOD. WE ASK THAT YOU HUMBLE THEIR HEARTS, FATHER GOD. YOU GIVE THEM A WORD, FATHER GOD FOR WHATEVER DECISIONS THEY MAKE, FATHER GOD, THAT IT BE IMPACT TO THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE, FATHER GOD. BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, FATHER. BLESS OUR FAMILIESES, FATHER GOD. SO THE STRENGTH -- THE WORDS AND THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE FATHER GOD WILL BE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FATHER GOD. WE THANK YOU, FATHER GOD. FATHER GOD, THIS WEEK HAS BEEN AN AWESOME WEEK, FATHER GOD. WEEK OF THE HBCU, FATHER GOD. WE ASK, FATHER GOD, YOU BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THAT EVENT, FATHER GOD. WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM STRENGTH FATHER GOD. AND ALLOW THEM TO ENJOY THEMSELVES, FATHER GOD. WE ASK ALL OF THIS IN YOUR SON JESUS'S NAME, AMEN. EVERYBODY SAY AMEN. >> AMEN. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, REVIEW THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF PUBLIC COMMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL. MARTIN SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY. I WILL BE BRIEF. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL APPLICATION. A THREE-MINUTE TIME FRAME APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, SPEAKER WAIVER -- EXCUSE ME, SPEAKER CARDS ARE OUTSIDE IN THE LOBBY. AND THEY WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. EACH PERSON SPEAKING AND SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK. PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY. NAMES THAT CANNOT SHALL READ WILL NOT BE CALLED. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING IT WILL BE NOTED ON THE AGENDA IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. TIME TO SPEAK IS NOT IN PUBLIC COMMENT BUT WHEN THE ITEM IS CALLED UP AND USE THE SIGN-UP SHEET INSTEAD. AGAIN, COUNCIL, YOU ARE REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING THE SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. AND PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION. AND THE -- THE SPEAKERS ARE FROM MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS - AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER OR ANY MEMBER MANUFACTURE THE PUBLIC. AND FINALLY, THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED AND WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE RULES OF DECORUM AND ENGAGES IN DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR AND THREATENING REMARKS, MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISE OS ARE SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS. YOUR COOPERATION IS APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY. ALSO, I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A MEMO I SENT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBERS BY E-MAIL AND I PRINTED IT UP AS WELL REGARDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. JUST A REMINDER, WE DID ADOPT NEW RULES RECENTLY. I WANT TO ADHERE BY THAT. PLEASE SPEAK WHEN YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. FIVE-MINUTE GO-AROUND ON FIRST DISCUSSION. THREE MINUTES IN THE SECOND GO AROUND. AND ALSO -- IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ANY DISTRACTIONS, ANY NOISES, FINGER SNAPPING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I WILL RULE PEOPLE OUT OF ORDER THAT ARE OUT OF ORDER. AND WE WILL TAKING IT FROM THERE. IF COUNCIL HAD A MOMENT TO READ THE MEMO, THAT'S IT. I WANT TO MEMORIALIZE THAT. AND PUT IT INTO -- INTO THE RECORD. SO THE CLERK ALREADY HAS A COPY, CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL HAVING LOOKED AT THE MEMO MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THE MEMORANDUM AND HAVE IT MEMORIALIZED BY HAVING IT INCLUDED IN THE MEN OF TODAY'S MEETING. >> SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR SECTION SEPTEMBER 5 AND 24 OF 2024. APPEAR MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SENDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL RIGHT. R, SAY AYE. - GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, HOUSEKEEPING. ITEM NUMBER 47 WILL BE HEARD AFTER ITEM 61. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT THERE. YES, 47 AFTER 61. SO WE WILL PULL THAT. ITEM 64 TIES IN WITH ITEM 75. SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE TOGETHER OR BACK TO BACK. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS ONE BY ONE. IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, CHIEF BENNETT? >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC. THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE PRESENTER ON ITEM 72 WHICH IS OUR CITY DISTRICT ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN TO MOVE 7 TO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, WE CAN -- ANY OBJECTION OF MOVING 72 AS THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE AND TAKE THAT UP AFTER LUNCH. CAN I GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECTED? MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THAT TAKES PLACE OF THAT. ITEM NUMBER 68. DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR THAT? I DON'T HEAR A YES. SO WE WILL PUT NO. ITEM 69? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING. ITEM 61, I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF WHAT WAS SENT OUT BY JAMES RODRIGUEZ. HE'S A RANKING MILITARY PERSON -- >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT 61. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DID YOU GET ONE? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE GOT ONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RECEIVED THE E-MAIL. ITEM 69, DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT? I HEAR A NO. THERE IS NOTHING. ITEM 70? THIS IS JUST A STAFF REPORT. YES? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THEY ARE HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONLINE WITH THAT. ITEM NUMBER 71? THIS GOING TO BE IN-PERSON? ITEM 72. THAT WE ALREADY DISCUSSED. ADMINISTRATION UPDATE. ITEM 73, YES. ITEM 74? THERE IS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SO THAT WILL BE A YES. ITEM 75? THERE IS A -- OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT, SO 64 ALREADY AS MENTIONED EARLIER WITH 75. WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS. ARE WE GOOD WITH 76 AND -- >>LUIS VIERA: VERY GOOD. I AM FINE WITH THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WE WILL RECEIVE AND FILE THOSE AT THE END ONCE WE GET TO THAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO COME UP AND EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR THE MAYOR'S ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBR CELEBRATION. >> GOOD MORNING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING. [LAUGHTER] MY NAME IS MELISSA MARTINEZ. I AM CHAIR OF THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE. AND I'M HERE WITH SOME OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO INVITE YOU, CITY STAFF, AND THE PUBLIC TO OUR 36th ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION. IT IS GOING TO BE ON OCTOBER 1 AT 11:00 IN THE MORNING. DOOR OPENS AT 10:30 AT THE TAMPA THEATRE. THIS YEAR, WE HAVE ENTERTAINMENT GROUP THE A 13 PROJECT. THEY ARE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CREATE CULTURAL AWARENESS THROUGH MUSIC. WE HAVE THE TAMPA JAMMING DANCE THAT WILL BE PERFORMING DURING THE EVENT. FIRST 200 GUEST ALSO RECEIVE A FREE BAG LUNCH. AND THIS YEAR, WE ARE VERY PROUD TO AWARD OUR FIRST VOCATIONAL TECHNICAL SCHOOLS SCHOLARSHIP THROUGH BRUCER TECHNICAL COLLEGE. FOR MORE INFORMATION FOR OUR POSTERS, THEY WILL BE DISPLAYED ON CITY BUILDINGS AND ALSO THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL BE BE THERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP, WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT OFFICER RICHARD MERCADO. RICHIE MERCADO, A COMMENDATION WHO IS RETIRING. GO ON UP, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HONORABLE CHAIR OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND SAD HEART THAT OUR GOOD FRIEND, RICHARD MERCADO IS RETIRING AFTER 17 YEARS WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE HAS A RECORD OF PUBLIC SERVICE HIS WHOLE LIFE REALLY. TO BE A MASTER SERGEANT IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, THAT MEANS THAT LESS THAN 1% OF ALL AIRMEN OR AIR WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE MAKE IT TO THAT RANK. AND YOU IS IT WITH LESS THAN 1%. >> YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE BETTER THAN 99% OF SOMEBODY ELSE. I AM ONLY LAUGHING WITH YOU, BUT TO GET THAT FAR, IT IS AN AMAZING FEAT. YOU WERE WITH THE HISPANIC BILINGUAL COMMITTEE. YOU ALSO SERVED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE SPANISH NEW CHANNEL. DID YOU YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. YOUR ORIENTATION. POLICE OFFICER. NOT ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE. YOU WERE AT ONE TIME THE MAYOR OF YBOR CITY. AND HOW WAS THAT? DID YOU GET PAID A LOT? >> A LOT OF NOTHING. [LAUGHTER] >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: KEEP IT WITH YOU ALL THE TIME. THAT IS THE MAIN THING. MONEY YOU SPEND -- WHAT YOU LEARN IN OFFICE BEING THE MAYOR OF YBOR CITY YOU CAN RETAIN YOUR WHOLE LIFE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY PLEASURE AND SADDENED YOU HAVE THREE LIFE-SAVING AWARDS, DUTY AWARDS, DRIVERS AWARD AND A MASTER IN POLICE AWARD. SO A GENTLEMAN WHO HAS GIVEN HIS WHOLE LIFE NOT ONLY TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA BUT TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE WILL MISS HIM DEARLY. YOU SEE HIM ALL THE TIME IN THE NEXT BUILDING. THREE ENTRANCES AND EXITS AND HE LOOKS LIKE A RADAR SCREEN MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS COMING IN PERFECT AND DOING WELL. HE IT YOU IT WITH CLASS, DIGNITY AND HE IS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND MY HONOR AND SADDENED AT THE SAME TIME THAT HE IS RETIRING TO REPRESENT THE CITY OF TAMPA GIVING HIM IN COMMENDATION AS THE COMMENDATION FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE, NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT WHOLE COUNTRY. I AM HONORED TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> OF COURSE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK GOD AND THANK MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT I HAVE RECEIVED. I KNOW THAT AS A FORMER CHIEF MASTER SERGEANT IS THE AIR FORCE, ONCE YOU REACH LEADERSHIP LEVEL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS, DECISIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT EXACTLY PLEASED WITH, BUT YOU HAVE AN OVERALL PICTURE. A BIG PICTURE WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO. I KNOW AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING. AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH UP THERE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. I WOULD HIKE TO THANK MY CHIEF AND MY MAJOR, WHO ARE MY SENIOR LEADERSHIP ON THE DEPARTMENT. AND I COULDN'T HAVE CONTINUE TO THIS WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT AND THE SUPPORT OF THE REST OF MY OFFICERS THAT I WORKED WITH, THAT I MENTORED, AND THAT I ALSO WORKED ALONG. SIDE OF THEM. IT HAS OPINION A PLEASURE WORKING HERE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND WITH SENIOR STAFF. I HAVE BEEN HERE SHORT TIME, 13 YEARS IN YBOR CITY. AND I HAVE STEIN A LOT. IT HAS BEEN AN EMOTIONAL RIDE SINCE YESTERDAY. SO TRYING TO THIS WITHOUT CRYING. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM HUMBLE BY ALL THE LOVE I RECEIVE AND SUPPORT. AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIREMENT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, SOME COUNCILMEMBERS WANTED TO SPEAK. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE TALK ALL THE TIME. AND YOU ARE SUCH A PLEASANT PERSON. YOU REALLY, REALLY ARE. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR MILITARY SERVICE AND YOUR TIME AS A TAMPA POLICE OFFICER. AND YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 17 YEARS, I THINK IT WAS, THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >> YES, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: POLICE OFFICERS THESE DAYS AND ALWAYS. I ALWAYS SAYS IT A HARD JOB. A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL BE IN TIMES WHEN THE POLITICIANS LOVE YOU AND OTHER TIMES WHEN THE POLITICIANS RUN AWAY FROM YOU. BUT I ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. AND YOU GUYS SEE THAT ALL THE TIME. THE PUBLIC ALL OVER TAMPA, I BELIEVE, IS VERY, VERY GRATEFUL. I KNOW WE ARE ALL GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO, ETC., HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. YOU ARE ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO TALK TO AND ENGAGE WITH AND GLAD TO SEE YOUR FAMILY HERE. THEY OUGHT TO BE SO PROUD. GOD BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT ARE RETIRING NOW BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF EVERYTHING AND YOU ALL WILL BE HARD TO REPLACE. APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION TO OUR CITY AND OUR COUNTRY. I NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT YBOR SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT YOU CAN THINK OF ALL THE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE IN YBOR DURING YBOR'S RENAISSANCE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I THINK I CAN BUY YOU COFFEE AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT A STAFF MEMBER OR A CIGAR. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO WONDERFUL AND WELCOMING WHEN I JOINED COUNCIL. AND YOU HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES TO HELP -- HELP GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THINGS AND I REALLY APPRECIATEDED THAT. I APPRECIATE WHEN STAFF DOES THAT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND YOU ARE ALWAYS A FRIENDLY FACE AND WE WILL CERTAINLY MISS YOU, BUT YOUR RETIREMENT IS WELL EARNED AND I AM SURE YOUR FAMILY IS LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING YOU HOME MORE OFTEN. >> THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRAT CONGRATULATIONS. TOMORROW MORNING YOU WAKE UP AND YOU GET TO DO AS YOU PLEASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, I WAS RETIRED ONCE AND YOU SEE HOW THAT WORKED OUT FOR ME. [LAUGHTER] AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH RETIREMENT ONCE BEFORE AND NOW AGAIN AT LEAST. BE CAREFUL WHAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE IT IS TOUGH TO STICK. ENJOY THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE. >> THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT. YOU CERTAINLY WILL BE MISSED. A FRIENDLY SMILING FACE. ANNUAL-AROUND GREAT PERSON. MY DAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU THE OTHER DAY. >> OH, REALLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE BUMPED INTO EACH OTHER. >> THAT'S RIGHT, AT THE GATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE ONE OF THE BEST AROUND HERE. CONGRATULATIONS AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT. WHATEVER YOU DO, BE HAPPY. LIFE IS SHORT. HAVE A GOOD TIME. >> THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THANK YOU, SIR. [ APPLAUSE ] ALL RIGHT. AS SOME FOLKS MOVE OUT, WE WILL BRING UP THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. YOU HAVE A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION. WITH THAT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION WILL COME UP MOMENTARILY. WE WILL JUST TAKE A MOMENT HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION HERE. IT WILL COME UP ON THE BIG SCREEN. YES, GO AHEAD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> I AM OUR KNEE RAY, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL COUNCIL. MY FOCUS IS RESILIENCY PLANNING AND A LOT OF MY WORK IN OUR COMMON ACTION PLAN. DOING FIRST REGIONAL CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IN OUR AREA AND I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THIS, AS WELL AS A LOT OF OUR OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS. SO I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY OF TAMPA AND COUNCILMEN FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEY HAVE BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY ON OUR COMMITTEE. IT HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT TO HAVE SUCH LEADERSHIP, ESPECIALLY WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING HERE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LEARN BEST PRACTICES FREE AND OTHER AREAS ARE DOING AS MUCH STUFF. BUT -- AS WE ARE WANTING TO IN THE FUTURE. SO OUR MISSION AT THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL COUNCIL IS TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS AND MEMBER GOVERNMENTS OF FOSTER COMMUNICATION, COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION TO IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS NEEDS REGIONALLY. AND WE ARE ONE OF TEN PLANNING COUNCILS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WE ARE EIGHT DISTRICT DISTRICT GOVERNMENT. COLLABORATING NOT ONLY ON REGIONAL SKILL BUT ACROSS THE STATE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE HAVING BEST PRACTICES ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR -- IN ANY AREA ACROSS THE STATE. THESE ARE OFFICERS. IT WILL RECENTLY CHANGE UP IN DECEMBER. SO YOU WILL SEE SOME NEW FACES WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO SOME OF OUR MEETINGS. BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LEADING US ALONG THE WAY. SO WE HAVE BEEN CONVENING IN THE REGION SINCE 1962. FROM SIX COUNTIES. 23 MUNICIPALITIES. REPRESENTATION FROM F. D.O.T., F.D.E.P. AND THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. ALL THE WAY FROM CITRUS COUNTY DOWN TO MANATEE COUNTY. SOME OUR FOCUSED AREA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING, DIFFERENT PLANNING TECHNOLOGIES AND RESILIENCY PLANNING WHICH IS WHERE I TO MOST OF MY WORK IN. SOME OF THE WORK WE DO IS REGIONAL GOVERNMENTALLY AJOHN IN PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY. I AM ONE -- I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. ANYTHING YOU NEED, YOU JUST ASK ME. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR. PLANNING SUPPORT AND TECHNICAL SERVICES. SOME OF THE THIS I THINK SO THINGS WE PROVIDE TO YOU AS A MEMBER GOVERNMENT AND CAN HELP YOU WITH AND REGIONAL CONVENING SOME OF OUR COMMITTEES AND INITIALS TIFFS THAT WE ARE DOING. OUR GOVERNMENTALLY AJO-- /* LIAN STARTED THIS YEAR. WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS NEED TO DEEPEN OUR UNDERSTANDING AND EXPAND OUR KNOWLEDGE ACROSS THE REGION AND IDENTIFY WHAT EACH COMMUNITY -- EVERYBODY IS UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES AND UNDERSTANDING EACH OF OUR MEMBER GOVERNMENT'S NEED IS IMPORTANT HOW WE DO PLANNING PROCESSES AND THINGS WE CAN PROVIDE. SOME OF THE TECHNICAL SERVICES THAT WE DO PROVIDE IS WE HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE DO FROM ECONOMIC MODELING, POLICY AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT, GREEN HOUSE GAS ANALYSIS, SCENARIO PLANNING. LOOKING FOR THE NEXT AND BEST THING TO ADD DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES TO ADVANCE OUR UNDERSTANDING AND GIVE PLANNING PRACTICES TO MOVE FORWARD. ALSO SOME THINGS THAT WE SELECT TO POINT OUT, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU NEED, WE ARE A PUBLIC AGENCY -- AS A PUBLIC AGENCY, YOU CAN DIRECTLY CONTRACT WITH US. LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND THINGS WE CAN DO INTERNALLY, WE ARE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO WORK YOU WITH AND DO ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT. SO SOME RECENT HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE ARE DOING. I WILL TOUCH ON THE MacDILL MILITARY INSTALLATION RESILIENCY REVIEW THAT WE JUST PUBLISHED. CLEAN UP TAMPA BAY IS SOMETHING I POINTED OUT. OUR FIRST GREEN HOUSE CLIMATE PLAN THAT DOES GREEN HOUSE GAS ANALYSIS, LOW-INCOME COMMUNITY ANALYSIS, WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON. RESILIENT AND READY TAMPA BAY. CITY OF TAMPA WAS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS ON THAT AND THE REGIONAL RESILIENCY PLAN. CITY OF TAMPA WAS A PARTNER AS WELL. TO HIGHLIGHT THE MacDILL MIRR AT THE AIR FORCE BASE. THIS IS A REVIEW THAT ANALYZED THE NEEDS OF -- THE CLIMATE NEEDS AND IMPLEMENTATION TO FOSTER AND PROTECT ENHANCED RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY THAT BENEFIT THE BASE AROUND IT. 35 STRATEGIES FOR RESILIENCY. THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE FUNDED THIS. AND THEY ACCEPTED WHAT WE HAVE DONE. AND THEY ARE POSSIBLY LOOK CAN TO FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. SO WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU TO BE ABLE TO FIND FUNDING THROUGH D.O.D. TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND. FIRST ONE WE WANT TO DO IS A JOINT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT. CITY OF TAMPA WITH THE BASE. TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND ANY OTHER PARTNERS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING ON THIS AND DOING THESE THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFIED. OTHER THINGS IS CONDUCT WATER SHED. MODELING. THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND D.O.D. IS LOOKING TO POSSIBLY FUND THESE THINGS AND LET'S GET THE MONEY WHILE WE CAN. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE CONVENE, THE AGENCY OF BAY AND COASTAL MANAGEMENT. CITY OF TAMPA IS A GREAT PARTNER ON THAT. TAMPA REGENCY RESILIENCY. LOCAL PLANNING COMMITTEE. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE DOING AND EXPANDING LOOKING TO DO RESILIENCY AND NETWORKING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT NETWORKING GROUPS AND TO THE FUTURE, WE REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A SERVICE TO UNDERSTAND THAT REGIONAL NEEDS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. NORTHWEST JUST AT CITY AND COUNCIL. WORKING TOGETHER ON THESE IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS OCTOBER 14 I AM SURE YOU KNOW WE WILL HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. HERE IS MY CONTACT INFO. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, SOMEBODY DOES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY ON THE BOARD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, COULD YOU ARE THE KNEE, FOR COMING FORWARD. WELCOME TO TAMPA, THE BEST CITY IN THE REGION YOU REPRESENT. I WANT TO GIVE A PLUG TO, ONE, THE STAFF OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO. IT IS VERY EYE-OPENING TO SEE, ONE, THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE YOU ALL COME AND YOUR CO-WORKERS COME TO THE TABLE WITH. THE DIVERSITY OF THE ISSUES YOU DEAL WITH IS INCREDIBLE AND I A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ISSUES THAT YOU DEAL WITH. KNOWING THAT WE LIVE IN A REGION THAT YOU SHARE LIKE WATER ESTUARY AND AIR QUALITY. WATER SPECIFICALLY AND THE HEALTH OF OUR BAY, THE HEALTH OF OUR RIVERS, AND HOW INTEGRATED THOSE ARE WITH THE COUNTIES THAT YOU ALL REPRESENT AND ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES. AND HOW WE ALL IMPACT THAT SHARED RESOURCE AND HOW SERIOUS THIS COUNCIL TAKES THAT. IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF DETAIL AND FASCINATING TO SEE THE STATISTICS AND THE STUDIES YOU ALL HAVE CONDUCTED AND THE PARTNERS THAT YOU IT CREATED FOR THAT. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE WORK PUT INTO THE MacDILL RESILIENCY PLAN. IT WAS VERY GOOD. AND EYE OPENING AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR CITY OF TAMPA. AND LOOK TO ANY ONE OF US UP HERE. I KNOW YOU WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF IN CITY OF TAMPA TO FULFILL THE MISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS MR. CLENDENIN SAID. HOWEVER, THERE IS A NEED FOR ALL GOVERNMENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD. NOT HAPPENING BY COINCIDENCE, HAPPENING BECAUSE WE VOIDED OUR EARTH AND THROW OUR TRASH IN PRESIDENT OCEAN. AND SOLAR IS HERE -- WE ARE TRYING TO GET THERE, DON'T GET ME WRONG. AND THIS CITY IS MAKING AN EFFORT TO DO THAT. BUT GOT TO BE A BETTER AND FASTER WAY TO GET IT DONE. THE RAINS THAT ARE COMING NOW IS NOT NORMAL. THE PATTERN IS NOT NORMAL. YOU HAVE SEEN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR HURRICANES THAT FORMED. FORMED IN THE GULF. AND THAT IS NOT NORMAL. AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON ALERT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT YEARS BACK AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM TODAY. SO IN THE FUTURE, THAT IS ONLY EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM FURTHER. AND I AM AFRAID THAT NO CITY OR NO COUNTY OR NOR STATE OR NO COUNTRY WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD WHAT IS COMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ENJOY YOUR MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW IT IS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR. AND FOLLOWED BY MISS AILEEN HENDE HENDERSON. >> GOOD MORNING, STEP STEPHANIE POYNOR. YOU KNOW I HATE GOING FIRST BECAUSE I REALLY PREFER WHAT OTHER FOLKS IN THE CITY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THINGS, BECAUSE I USUALLY HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT ALL OF THEM. NUMBER 48 HAS STOOD OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB TO ME THAT -- WHY ARE WE INCREASING OUR LEASE AT THE GTE BUILDING? I WAS TOLD THAT THOSE FACILITIES, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, WERE GOING TO BE MOVED TO HANNA STREET, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS NOT FULL, OKAY. SO I THINK THEY HAD THE ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY -- SOMEBODY SENT ME A MESSAGE LAST NIGHT THAT THERE WAS A ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION AT HANNA STREET LAST NIGHT. BUT HERE WE ARE, WE ARE EXPANDING OUR RENTAL SPACE AT THE GTE BUILDING AND SPENDING MORE MONEY AFTER WE SPENT $140 MILLION FOR HANNA STREET WHICH IS A CAVE. GO HANG OUT THERE. LOOK HOW FEW PEOPLE WORK THERE. HOW FEW PEOPLE ARE THERE DOING A JOB. I NEVER PULLED. YOU THERE AND NEVER PARKED EITHER THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO PARK IN THE SUN OR PARKED RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING WHICH TELLS ME IT IS DAMN NEAR EMPTY. I SEE THIS. AND NO MESSAGE OF THE ORIGINAL LEASE, BUT THIS ADDITIONAL LEASE IS LIKE $16,000 A YEAR. WELL, YOU KNOW MONDAY -- TUESDAY NIGHT, YOU GUYS ARGUED OVER $5,000. AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT MAYBE IT IS TIME TO ARGUE OVER THESE LITTLE PENNY ANTE LEASE. LAST WEEK I CAME TO YOU WITH A $10,000-A-MONTH LEASE FOR A PARKING LOT YARD WHEN WE HAVE A -- AN EIGHT-ACRE PROPERTY THAT IS CAPABLE OF HOUSING THAT FACILITY NOW FOR TPD. YOU KNOW IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF COMMON SENSE GOING ON HERE. I AM SURE I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO SAY ABOUT OTHER THINGS BECAUSE I WAS STILL FORMULATING MY THOUGHT PROCESS. I HATE TO BE TOLD WHEN TO COME UP HERE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE OPTIONAL, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE REST OF MY FRIENDS HERE HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE I AM SURE I AM FORGETTING SOMETHING. I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR TO BE PULL NUMBER 48 AND HAVE A DISCUSSION, WHY IS IT -- WHY ARE WE MOVING EOPLE INTO THE GTE LEASE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE HANNA STREET OUT THERE. IF YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE SOMEBODY, MOVE THEM TO SOME PLACE WE ALREADY OWN. WHY ARE YOU RENTING AN APARTMENT WHEN YOU HAVE A PERFECTLY GOOD HOUSE. I DON'T DO THAT. YOU GUYS DON'T DO THAT. SO WHY WOULD YOU? WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW THE CITY TO DO IS THAT? I DON'T KNOW. IT -- IT IS JUST ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOT THESE BIG FISH THAT HI KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE PART OF THE BUDGET, THAT NOBODY TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS. WE HAVEN'T TALKED OF RIVERWALK. WE HAVEN'T TALKED OF THIS -- WHAT IS IT -- FORENSICS LAB. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR HAND OUT FOR SOME MONEY. BUT WE STILL DON'T HAVE A FIRE STATION IN 24. NOBODY REALLY CARES, I GUESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS AILEEN HENDERSON FOLLOWED BY MISS ANGELA GUINN. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. AILEEN HENDERSON. I WASN'T SURE HOW I WOULD START BECAUSE I ALWAYS HAVE A LOT TO SAY. SAY TO STEPHANIE, I AM NOT PUTTING MY HAND OUT FOR ANY MONEY. I AM PUTTING MY HAND OUT FOR THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT I AM PUTTING MY%-P I AM HOPING THE ITALIAN CLUB CAN PUT THEIR HANDS BACK OUT TOWARD US AND TELL US THE TRUTH. WE HAVE FACTS. WE HAVE GOT MAPS, PLATS. WE HAVE GOT IT ALL. COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY IS THERE. SHOW US THE GPR. WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL? I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE ITALIAN CLUB CAN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH GOOD THIS COULD DO FOR THEM BY RECOGNIZING THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERY IS THERE TO INCLUDE THE CUBAN SELL TER -- CEMETERY. THAT'S HOW IT STARTED. CUBAN CEMETERY AND A AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERY. I DON'T LIKE TO BE THIS WAY, TO GET ATTENTION, I WILL PARK MY CAR ON THE GRAVE THERE AT THE SIT MY CAR ON A GRAVE. LE VISIT- TELL YOU SOMETHING, I GUARANTEE YOU, I WILL GET ATTENTION AFTER THAT. PROBABLY WOULD GET ARRESTED. SO BE IT. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY DO EVERY DAY. EVERY DAY THEY ARE WORKING ON BODIES. YOU MAY NOT CARE, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, I CARE. AND I AM A CON 12I67 WENT A-- CN 12I67 WENT AND I AM A VOTER. THIS MATTERS TO ME. MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT SHOULD MATTER TO YOU. IT IS THE HISTORY OF TAMPA HISTORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD AND THOSE PEOPLE BURIED HELPED BUILD TAMPA. THAT IS OUR HISTORY. I HEAR HISTORY WHEN I LISTEN TO THE CAMPAIGNS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE GOING ON FOR PRESIDENCY. WE TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY. IT IS SO IMPORTANT. SO FOR ME, THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY. AND TAMPA HAS A LOT OF UGLY HISTORY. BUT SO DOES A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. SO JUST TELL THE TRUTH. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO TEAR ANYTHING DOWN. I HEARD FROM A FRIEND OF MINE SAID, AILEEN, THEY ARE AFRAID YOU WANT TO TEAR STUFF DOWN. I DON'T WANT TO TEAR STUFF DOWN. THAT IS NOT PRACTICAL. MY AUNT AND UNCLE BURIED IN THAT MAUSOLEUM. I DON'T WANT TO TEAR ANYTHING DOWN. I WANT THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, MISS GUINN. YOU ARE NEXT FOLLOWED BY MENTESNOT. >> HERE TO SPEAK WITH COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY AND THE ITALIAN CLUB. I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF RESOLUTION WHAT I WISH WOULD BE DONE WITH COLLEGE HILL AND THE LOST. I'M HERE TO SPEAK A MESSAGE IN HOPES IT REACHES THE ITALIAN CLUB, AS THEY HAVE IGNORED MY REQUEST AND COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO PRODUCE SCAN RESULTS. I'M HERE TODAY TO JUST SIMPLY ASK TO DO THE RIGHT THING. TO BRING PIECE TO A DARK PART OF HISTORY AND RELEASE THE SCAN RESULTS. HEALING CAN BEGIN WHEN THE TRUTH IS TOLD. I KNOW MY GREAT UNDERLE IS LOST WITHIN THAT PROPERTY, ALONGSIDE 1200 OTHERS. PLEASE BRING PEACE TO MY FAMILY, THIS COMMUNITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING PEACE TO THE PRECIOUS SOULS LAID TO REST THERE. I AM NOT SEEKING TO TAKE ANYONE'S PROPERTY OR DESECRATE YOUR ANCESTORS' AND LOVED ONES' GRAVES, I AM ASKING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. LET ME FAMILY BEGIN TO HEAL. LET ME BRING PEACE AND CLOSURE TO MY GREAT UNCLE'S MEMORY AND LET THE COMMUNITY SEE THROUGH RELEASING THOSE RESULTS THAT THEY CAN BEGIN TO HEAL. WITHHOLDING ANSWERS TO A SCAN THAT TOOK PLACE IS HEARTBREAKING TO A COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO HOLD OUT HOPE FOR THOSE HOPING THAT THERE IS GOOD LEFT BY REVEALING THE TRUTH AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. REVEALING THAT INSTEAD OF IGNORING THIS ANY LONGER, FACED THE MISTAKES FROM THE PAST AND SHOW THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY THAT THOSE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL LIVES MATTERED AND RESPECT THEM. WE CAN /* WE CAN NOT CHANGE THINGS FROM THE PAST BUT MAKE IT BETTER. ACCOUNTING FOR THE LOSS AT COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY AND NOT MAKING THIS HAPPEN EVER AGAIN IN HISTORY. IN ENDING, YOU ASK THAT DO YOU THE RIGHT THING. WOULD YOU WITH EVER WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO YOUR FAMILY? WOULD YOU EVER WANT THEM TO BE FORGOTTEN AND PARKED ON? THE SCAN RESULTS ARE NEEDED FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT YOU CARE. I WANT TO SEE CLOSURE TO ANOTHER LONG AND DARK CHAPTER WITHIN OUR TAMPA ROOTS. I WANT TO KNOW THAT MY GREAT UNCLE'S MEMORY CAN BE RESURRECTED BY THE TRUTH BY THESE SCAN RESULTS. I WANT THE 1200 LOST TO FIND THAT PEACE THAT THEIR LIVES MATTERED. AND IN LIFE, THESE AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND CUBAN SOULS ENDURED SO MUCH PAIN AND SUFFERING. IN DEATH, PLEASE LET SHOW THEM THEY DESERVE THE LOVE AND DIGNITY TO BE REMEMBERED FOR THE BEAUTIFUL SOULS THEY BROUGHT TO THIS COMMUNITY. IN ENDING, I WILL LEAVE A QUOTE FROM THE AMAZING MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. OUR LIVES BEGAN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER IS MENTESNOT FOLLOWED BY MISS ROMALOC. >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA. YOU KNOW IN 1776 OR 1770 OR 1765, IF ANYONE SAID GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS OR WOULD BE A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY, PEOPLE WOULD THINK THEY WERE OUT OF THEIR MIND. BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT VISION OR THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE PROCESS OF DISRUPTING THE PROCESS. AND IN 2024, IF SOMEONE SAYS THAT THE WHITE SCHOOL SHOOTER IS A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY, SOMEBODY WOULD PROBABLY SAY THAT IS HORRENDOUS AND YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER, THOSE ARE THE WHITE KIDS THAT ARE THE NEW REVOLUTIONARIES, THEY ARE THE NEW FRED HAMPTONS. THEY ARE DISRUPTING THE SYSTEM. BECAUSE THE OLD PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND THE OLD PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. AND THEY CONTINUE WITH THE VIOLENCE. THEY PERPETRATE VIOLENCE AGAINST SOCIETY IN THE WORST WAY. AND THEY WANT YOU TO ACCEPT IT. AND OTHER THINGS THEY WANT YOU TO THINK THAT IS HORRENDOUS, YOU KNOW. WE SEE THE WORST FORM OF VIOLENCE, VIOLENCE THAT YOU COULDN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT IS GOING ON. EXPLODING PAGERS. WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT. EXPLODING PAGERS. THOUSANDS OF PAGERS EXPLODING AND THEY SAY THAT IS SOME KIND OF MILITARY TACTIC THAT THEY ARE USING AGAINST THE PEOPLE AGAINST HEZBOLLAH OR WHOSOEVER IT MAY BE. WHAT IT IS WHITE PEOPLE TERRORIZING EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD. THE UNITED STATES AND NATO IS USING UKRAINE TO TERRORIZE RUSSIA AND CHINA IN SOCIALISM. UNITED STATES IS USING OCCUPIED PALESTINE TO USE THE WORD "ISRAEL." THE WORD NORMALLY DON'T COME OUT OF MY MOUTH. TO TERRORIZE THE PEOPLE IN PASS STEIN, THE MIDDLE EAST, NORTH AFRICA AND THROUGHOUT AFRICA. AND IT IS THE WORST FORM OF TERROR YOU COULD POSSIBLY SEE. AND WHEN I SHOULD BE HERE TALKING OF REPARATIONS FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE FOR 824 YEARS OF INJUSTICES DONE TO US, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE AND RECOGNIZE THAT SITUATION IN PALESTINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO WICKED. THEN THEY TALK ABOUT HITLER. HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO WICKED AND JUST NASTY. THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS CITY. THEY TALK ABOUT SMALL THINGS. THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT BIG THINGS. THIS CITY CAN RUN OUT A CITY COUNCIL. THIS CITY CAN RUN WITHOUT A MAYOR. IT ACTUALLY CAN. YOU GUYS ARE NOTHING. OR DON'T SAY WHAT IS GOING OUT - IN PALESTINE AND PEOPLE TALKING OF BLACK PEOPLE EATING DOGS AND CATS. IF YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, SOMETHING IS WRONG. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS ROBIN LOCKET IS THE NEXT SPEAKER. ARE YOU FOOD? ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT. SIMONE NELSON IS THE FIRST SPEA SPEAKER. WE WILL GO BACK. MR. RONALD SCAGLIONE IS THE NEXT SPEAKER. IF YOU WILL UNMUTE YOURSELF, MR. SCAGLIONE, IT IS YOUR TIME TO SPEAK. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RONALD SCAGLIONE, 09 SOUTH NEW JERSEY AVENUE. YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE A PACKET I SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR DISTRIBUTION REGARDING THIS SUBJECT I AM ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT. FIRST READING WAS HELD OCTOBER 13, 2022 FOR REZONE 22-29 ON A PARCEL ON MacDILL. EXHIBIT A IN MY PACKET IS A COPY OF THE OVERHEAD PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AS ZAIN HUSSEIN AS A SITE PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT. CO-COUNCIL'S ATTENTION WHEN THEY SEE IT, THE NOTE HAS NO DUMPSTER DEPICTED FOR THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC OVERHEAD. THE STAFF REPORT SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL FOR VIEWING HAD A NOTATION ON PAGE TWO, WHICH I HIGHLIGHTED, WHICH WAS TO ADD A DUMPSTER TO 301 SOUTH NEW JERSEY AVENUE IN PHASE TWO OF THIS PROPERTY REZONE. THE STAFF REPORT WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC OR STATED OTHERWISE ON THE OVERHEAD FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT. AT THIS HEARING, THE REPRESENTATIVE STEVE MICHELINI, WHO I KNOW IS IN THE ROOM TODAY, RESPONDED TO A QUESTION PRESENTED BY LYNN HURTAK ASKING FOR LOCATION OF RESIDENCE AND CLARIFICATION ON THE DUMPSTER. HE RESPONDED TO HER WITH A VERY -- WITH A RESPONSE THAT SAID PHASE TWO HAD TOWN HOMES AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALL AROUND THIS. NEVER MENTIONING MY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME ABUTTING THIS SITE. PLEASE REFER TO THE PACKAGE ON THE LOCATION TO THE STREET ADDRESSES. NOTE THE DUMPSTER IS BEING BUILT ON 067. NOT 301 SOUTH NEW JERSEY WHICH THE PACKET HAD NOTATIONS ON. ON NOVEMBER, THE DUMPSTER LOCATION WAS CHANGED TO IT THE APPLICANT'S 307 NEW JERSEY COMMITTED TO KATHY SASONI'S GROUP TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR SECOND READING. APRIL 24 ALREADY I NOTICED THE DUMPSTER PAD BEING CONSTRUCTED NEXT TO MY HOME WITH THE FOE TO HE IN THE PACKET AND I TALKED TO GOVERNMENT AND SPOKE TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SOLID WASTE. I ALSO RECITED IN MY PACKET FOUR SIGNIFICANT ERRORS, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THIS DEFLECTED PLAT AND DEFLECTED REZONE. I AM ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION TO REMEDY IN IMFOR LOCATION OF THE DUMPSTER. AND INSTRUCT THEM TO MOVE IT TO WHERE IT WAS APPROVED BY THIS SECOND READING -- OR BY THIS FIRST READING WHERE STAFF'S REPORT CALLED FOR IT. GIVEN THESE MATERIALS ERRORS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT, THE DUMPSTER MUST BE REMOVED TO THE LOCATION OF 301 SOUTH NEW JERSEY OR ANOTHER AREA WITHIN THIS 20-UNIT PROJECT AND NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE ON 307 SOUTH NEW JERSEY. 27-288-B STATES NOT PROHIBIT DUMPSTERS TO IT BE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARDS OF RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THIS DUMPSTER IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY FRONT YARD. AND I THANK COUNCIL FOR HEARING ME IN THIS PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION. AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE ACTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SIMONE NELSON. NOT UNMUTED. MICHAEL RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ON? >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH. WEST THIS CAC. TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. THE FOCUS IS TO INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY AND INCREASE GENERATIONAL WEALTH. THE TITLE OF THE PROGRAM IS "THE HOME-BASED E COMMERCIAL INITIATIVE." THE OBJECTIVE IS TO INCREASE RESIDENT HOME BUSINESSES AND JOB CREATION. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IS THAT IT IS LOW COST TO START UP, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BRICK AND MORTAR. PEOPLE CAN START THEIR BUSINESS FROM THEIR HOUSE. WHAT WE DID WAS TO MONETIZE RESIDENTS' SKILLS. EVERYBODY HAS A SKILL. WE CONVERT IT INTO MONEY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO OWN PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS IN ORDER TO HELP THEM, WE PROVIDE -- WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE MICRO LOANS THAT CAN BE CONVERTED TO GRANTS IF THAT BUSINESS BEGINS TO HIRE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY. FUNDING IS COMING THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH CORPORATIONS AND FOUNDATIONS. WE HAVE ASSETS FROM OV30,000 GRANTS OF WAY OF SUBSCRIPTION IN THE GRANT STATION. THAT MEANS WE HAVE AVAILABLE MONIES WE CAN GO OVER THAT NOBODY ELSE IS GOING AFTER. STUDENTS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH A COMPUTER AND ACCESS TO THE INTERNET. FOCUS GROUP, SENIOR CITIZENS, THOSE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS, SENIORS, HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS AND LOWER INCOME. WE PROJECT THAT ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 60 NEW FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME BUSINESSES WILL BE STARTED OUT OF IN INITIATIVE WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, 80 TO 100 NEW JOBS CREATED. STUDENTS WILL BE -- WILL HAVE MENTORS BY WAY OF SCHOOL AND THE SMAL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT WHEN WE GET OUR NEW BUILDING TO START A SMALL SPACE FOR THEM TO HAVE CHANCE TO START THEIR BUSINESS IN TERMS OF AN INCUBATOR CENTER. WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THE ZION CEMETERY. WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT AND IT WE COULD LOSE UP TO TODAY 7 MILLION IF A DIFFERENT PLACE NOT COME TOGETHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GREA GREAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH. SIMONE NELSON IS ON? >>CLERK: SHE IS ON BUT -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I CAN SKIP? ADRIAN RODRIGUEZ. YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER. GO AHEAD. >> ADRIENNE RODRIGUEZ, CAN YOU HEAR ME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. HOW ARE YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THINGS. SEVERAL DAYS OCTOBER 1, HB 1465 GOES IN EFFECT, UNAUTHORIZED PUBLIC CAMPING AND PUBLIC SLEEPING. THIS WILL KILLING CAN'TLY I-- SPECIFICALLY IMPACT THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. THE TAMPA'S MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE NOT DONE AS FAR AS I KNOW DONE ANYTHING TO HELP THE HOMELESS, BUT INSTEAD A MR. ADAM SMITH DIRECTED ME TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES. THEY SEEM TO BE THE ONLY ORGANIZATION HELPING THE HOMELESS. REACHED 813-631-4370. ALSO FOR ANYONE IN NEED OF HELP, THERE IS A RESOURCE WEB SITE. FINDHELP.ORG. IF YOU TYPE IN THE ZIP CODE, IT WILL SHOW YOU RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO YOU WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL WEB SITE. NOW THE REASON I AM WANTING TO SPEAK TODAY -- AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE TO SPEAK AT COUNCILS, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR CRA MEETINGS, REGULAR MEETINGS, SPECIAL MEETINGS, BUDGET MEETINGS AND HEARINGS, IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT YOU ARE, AT COUNCIL, ABOUT 50 THURSDAYS ANNUALLY. SO THERE HAPPENS TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT UTILIZES THREE MINUTES EVERY SINGLE THURSDAY. THAT IS THREE MINUTES FOR 50 WEEKS EQUATES TO TWO AND A HALF HOURS A YEAR THAT WE AND MANY ARE NONSTOP NONSENSE, RECAPS OF WORLD EVENTS, POLITICAL OPINIONS. HEARING HIM BADGER, BERATE, BELITTLE, INSULT COUNCIL -- BLAMING YOU FOR HIS PROBLEMS. AND IT IS JUST NOISE. AND I AM REALLY TIRED OF IT. I DON'T HAVE TWO AND A HALF HOURS A YEAR TO DONATE MY TIME TO HEAR IN ... EXCUSE MY FRENCH BUT I HAD ENOUGH. THIS PERSON HAS BEEN COMING DOWN FOR DECADES. DID YOU KNOW IN JUST ONE YEAR THAT EQUATES TO 6.2 DAYS? TAKE A VACATION. 6.2 DAYS. I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO PUT A STOP TO THE VULGAR LANGUAGE THAT HAS BEEN USED IN SO MANY MEE MEETINGS. THE INAPPROPRIATE ATTIRE THAT IS WORN TO COUNCIL. THAT SHOULD BE BANNED AS WELL. NOT SEE SYMBOLS OF THE NAMES OF COUNCILMEMBERS TO ME IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS DONE THIS. MAYBE TO FEED HIS EGO. TO GIVE UP THREE HOURS OF HIS THURSDAY EVERY THURSDAY FOR 50 THURSDAYS. THAT IS TWO MONTHS. I MEAN THAT'S -- IN TEN YEARS, IT EQUATES TO TWO MONTHS. BUT THE MAIN REASON I AM SPEAKING TODAY IS I CAN HEAR ALL DAY LONG ANGELA, MISS LOCKKETT. I AM SICK OF THE NOISE AND THE DISRESPECT AND HIS REFERENCE TO FEMALE BODY PARTS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IT IS JUST CRAP. AND I WANT IT TO STOP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ALSO, FOR THE PUBLIC, PLEASE WATCH THE LANGUAGE. WE HAVE FAMILIES WATCHING AT HOME. KIDS WATCHING AT HOME. AND WITH REGARDS TO THE DECORUM AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE RULES AND EVERYTHING AT THE BEGINNING. YOU KNOW, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT. IF NOT, I WILL BANG THE GAVEL AND CALL FOLKS OUT OF ORDER. ALL RIGHT, CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS OUR LAST WEEKER -- SPEAKER ONLINE. BACK TO SIMONE NELSON. SIMONE NELSON WILL BE OUR FINAL SPEAKER FOR THE DAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD. >> HI, MY NAME IS SIMONE NELSON. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD. >> HI. I AM A RESIDENT AT 2927 WEST SANTIAGO STREET ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RITZ-CARLTON PROJECT BEING DONE WITH THE RELATED GROUP. WE HAD A BUNCH OF ISSUES WITH THEM DROPPING PAINT ON CONCRETE, MATERIALS ON ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS, ROOFS AND PATIOS. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE CITY, BUT NOTHING REALLY HAS BEEN DONE TO ALLEVIATE FOR MITIGATE ANY OF THESE ISSUES WE HAVE BEEN SEEING. CURRENTLY THIS YEAR, THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IS MOBILITY. EACH MORNING WE WAKE UP, AND SOMETHING NEW HAPPENING AROUND THE STREETS AROUND US. THEY HAVE ROAD CLOSED SIGNS. CUT OFF ACCESS. A GROUP OF CONDOS ALONG SANTIAGO STREET, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ACCESS FROM ISABELLA ROAD TO ENTER OUR HOMES AND EXIT. CURRENTLY THIS IS BEING BLOCKED BY STAGING CEMENT TRUCKS AND CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WITH THEIR TRUCKS TO WHERE WE HAVE TO WAIT TO EVEN GET OUT FROM OUR HOMES. TO ME -- THIS IS EVEN AN ISSUE ITSELF. I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE INSTALLED OR ATTEMPTING TO INSTALL PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOME. THIS WAS A MATTER THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE CITY COUNCL OCTOBER 6, 2002. IT WAS DISCUSSED AND DETERMINED THERE WOULD BE NO PARKING ON OUR SIDE OR THEIR SIDE, FOR THAT MATTER. THEY HAVE CONSTRUCTED PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SANTIAGO OF WHICH THEY CAN USE. SO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BRINGING UP PARKING NOW. AND ESSENTIALLY IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT APPROVED, WE FIND IT UTTERLY RIDICULOUS. WE HAVE SPOKE TO THE MOBILITY AND CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT AND THEY CAN'T PUT A REASON WHY THEY ARE PUTTING PARKING THERE OTHER THAN IT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS. US AS RESIDENTS AS 25-PLUS PEOPLE SAY WE DON'T WANT THE PARKING BUT THEY ARE STILL INSTALLING IT SAYING IT IS FOR YOU GUYS. IT HAS JUST BECOME AN ISSUE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST FOR THE COUNCIL TO DO AN INVESTIGATION INTO THIS PARKING. BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING AS WHO TO YOU THEY CAN OVERRULE IS THE DECISION MADE TWO YEARS AGO AND IT IS GET WHAT THEY WANT. CONTRACTORS ARE WORKING AROUND IN BUILDINGS, PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR -- PARKING IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES ALL HOURS OF THE DAY. SO, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO GO REQUEST COUNCIL TO DO AN INVESTIGATION AND STOP THIS PARKING FROM BEING IN FRONT OF OUR HOMES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CARROLL ANN BENNETT WAS NOT ON, CORRECT? THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THIS TIME. LUIS VIERA, YOU ARE THE PUBLIC SAFETY. >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEMS 4-12. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. 13-23. YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. THANK YOU. FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, I MOVE ITEMS 13-23. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS CHAIR OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I AM GOING TO MOVE ITEMS 24-37; HOWEVER, I WANTED TO LET COUNCILMEMBERS KNOW THAT ITEM NUMBER 36 ABOUT THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING CITY WIDE DESIGN-BUILD. I AM GOING TO HAVE A MOTION LATER ON FOR A REGULAR REPORT DURING NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE STILL MOVING THAT ITEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM MOVING THAT ITEM BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I AM DOING A MOTION ABOUT IT LATER TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIR, 38-4 2. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION FOR 38 -42. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 47 WAS PULLED TO GO AFTER ITEM 61. SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE 43-50 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 47. >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE SOMETHING I WANT TO SAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT I HAVE A MOTION ABOUT THE GTE BUILDING AND THE LEASES THAT WILL COME DURING NEW BUSINESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S WHERE I AM AT -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON MOVING THAT ENTIRE PART EXCEPT 47. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE DO 54 AT A SEPARATE VOTE, PLEASE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, 51-53. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 51-53. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEM 54. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN ON 54. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION WITH CARLSO VOTING NO AND HENDERSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DON'T NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR 68 AND 69. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SET 55 AND 56 THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 55 AND 56 HEARINGS TO BE HELD NOVEMBER 7, 2024, 1:30 P.M. ON BOTH ITEMS AT CITY HALL. 315 E. KENNEDY, 33602, I THINK IT IS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT ABOUT SOMETHING AFTER THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. THIS IS TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING 55-56. WE CAN'T GO TO THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 70 -- THEY WERE HERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. AND THEY ARE OUTSIDE. SO I THOUGHT WE COULD GET THEM DONE SO THEY CAN GO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEE IF WE CAN CATCH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR 10:00. >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THEY ARE OUTSIDE TALKING. THERE THEY ARE. IT WORKED OUT BEAUTIFULLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EARLY. >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER HAPPENS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT A MOTION BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOTION TO LISTEN TO ITEM 70. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE THEY ARE HERE, A GOOD EFFICIENT WAY OF TIME. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT OBJECTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION? BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. HEAR ITEM 70 NOW, BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS HERE AND IS GRACING US WITH THEIR PRESENCE. SO, YES, MA'AM, HOW ARE YOU. >> WOW, GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING US UP TO QUICKLY. MELISSA ZORNITA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY-CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE UPDATE OF SPECIFICALLY THE FUTURE LAND USE SECTION OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. JUST TO LAY OUT THE ORDER OF OUR PRESENTATION. I AM GOING TO COVER A BRIEF BIT OF CONTEXT WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, AND JENNIFER MALONE WILL COVER SOME OF THE CHANGES, PARTICULARLY THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE YOUR LAST WORKSHOP SINCE THE END OF JUNE. WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS. AND WE ARE STILL DIGESTING ALL OF THAT. LINKS TO ALL YOU HAVE OF THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA BACK-UP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO AS -- BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, I RECEIVED -- I WAS CONTACTED BY A COUPLE OF FOLKS REGARDING CONCERN ON 70. I TOLD THEM SO THEY KNOW, THIS IS JUST A STAFF REPORT. BECAUSE SOME FOLKS WERE CONCERNED -- WE DIDN'T SEE IT ONLINE. WE DIDN'T SEE THE INFORMATION. THEY WILL SEE THE INFORMATION. WE ARE NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TODAY. JUST SO THEY KNOW. >>MELISSA ZORNITTA: YES, ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE. WE ARE CONTINUING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE INCLUDING YOURSELVES TODAY ON THE DRAFT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED. IT HAS BEEN UP ON OUR WEB SITE SINCE AUGUST. WE HAVE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL TOOLS, LIKE A CROSSWALK SO PEOPLE CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT CHANGES ARE PROPOSED. THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE AS WE MOVE INTO THE FINAL DRAFT THAT THEN COMES TO YOU BEFORE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. BECAUSE WE WANT TO INTEGRATE AS MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE COMP PLAN PROVIDES BROAD VISIONARY GUIDANCE ON THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT FACING THE CITY. WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING AND CONTINUES TO HAPPEN. AND OUR -- OUR PROPOSAL IS TO TRY TO BALANCE THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN, BY FOCUSING GROWTH ALONG -- IN THE AREAS WHERE IT IS DESIRED AND HELPFUL TO THE CITY AND THEN IDENTIFYING TOOLS TO INCENTIVIZE THAT. AND THEN FOCUSING ON THE PROTECTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROCESS SINCE WE DEVELOPED A VISION ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WITH YOU ALL. AND WE HAVE REALLY VALUED ALL OF THE INPUT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. IT IS REALLY BEEN GREAT TO SEE HOW MUCH PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO INFLUENCE THE FUTURE. BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK IN THE LAST 30 DAYS, WE WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO CONTINUE TO DIGEST THAT. SO JENNIFER WILL FOCUS ON THE CHANGES WE MADE SINCE WE WERE LAST BEFORE YOU. TURN IT OVER TO HER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED FOR THIS TOTAL PRESENTATION, FIVE MINUTES, TEN MINUTES? >>MELISSA ZORNITTA: FIVE MINUTES AT THE MOST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS MALONE. >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE SLIDES. WE HAVE A PLACE TYPE CONCEPT WE PRESENTED ON JUNE 27. PRIORITIZE WHERE GROWTH SHOULD GO AND GETTING THE TOOLS IN PRESIDENT PLAN FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA REVISIONS. SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL POLICY LANGUAGE. A NEW STRUCTURE FOR THE FLOOR ARIA RATIO AND MIXED USE AND ENTIRE AREA OF BONUS PROGRAM. SINCE JUNE 28, AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THIS COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REFRESH OUR FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES AND REALSO MADE CHANGES TO THE RESIDENTIAL-10 BOY NEWS. SO VERY QUICKLY, SOMETHING THAT AFTER JUNE 27, WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND THOUGHT ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS MORE SIMPLE. SO WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE -- THE CATEGORY CHANGES. SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH ON JUNE 27, BUT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN 35. IT MEANS 30. AND THEN WITH A BONUS, YOU CAN GET UP TO 35. SO THE PROPOSAL BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCIL IS TO RETAIN THE 30 IN THE CHAA. NO BONUS OPTIONS IN THE CHAA. OUTSIDE OF THE CHAA WILL BE A 35 BY RIGHT. OUTSIDE OF THE CHAA, UP TO A 70 OF THE BONUSES INCENTIVES WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THE PLAN. SO WE ARE ALSO SIMPLIFYING THE NAMES. AND WE ARE REFRESHING THE BONUS OPTIONS AND MAXIMUMS. ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WAS MADE AFTER JUNE 27 THAT WE PROPOSED AND GETTING FEEDBACK ON, DROPPING THE BONUS IN THE RESIDENTIAL-10 CATEGORY, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE TRANSIT READY CORRIDORS SINCE THAT IS A FOCUSED AREA THAT WE KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE GROWTH. WORKING IN TANDEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCEPT. AND ALLOWING TOWN HOMES IN THE R-10 AND MORE PLACES AND BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WE DISCUSSED ON JUNE 27. DURING THE SUMMER AFTER JUNE 27, WE HAD 11 MEETINGS WITH APPROXIMATELY 200 ATTENDEES. RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE BONUS TOOL AND THE STACKABLE BONUS STRUCTURE AS WELL AS THE UPDATES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY STRUCTURE AND OUR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN POLICIES. WE HEARD THAT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD BE PROTECTED. THERE ARE CONCERNS OF DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS ON NATURAL ASSETS AND QUALITY OF LIFE WHICH I AM SURE IS NOT A SURPRISE TO YOU ALL. WE DO NEED TO CALIBRATE TOOLS FOR TRANSIT BONUSES AND WE ARE GOING TO BE REVISITING THE MIXED PERCENTAGE AND FLOOR ARIA RATIO AND HOW THAT IS CALCULATED. BONUS FROM A LEED CERTIFICATION WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS RIGHT NOW. EXPLORING FOR OTHER WAYS FOR FOLKS TO GET THAT. NEW -- WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL RESILIENCY COMPONENTS AND FURTHER IN THE FUTURE LAND USE SECTION. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ELECTION AND RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE SECTION AS WELL AND I AM HEARING WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THESE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE. REDAPTATION AND ADAPTIVE USE. AND TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE STREAMLINE. PERSPECTIVES ON THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREAS. YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT FROM ALL SIDES THAT THE PROHIBITION ON THE PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE TOO RESTRICTED. ENCOURAGING NUANCE AND RESILIENCY MEASURES. WE HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS THAT THE BALANCE IS RIGHT AND THE PROTECTION OF SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES. AS MELISSA ZORNITTA, WE ARE DIGESTING THAT AND TAKING IT ALL IN AND WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION. TWEAKING THE HERITAGE NEIGHBORHOODS CONCEPT A LITTLE BIT AND LOOKING AT HOW THE BONUSING AND THE RESIDENTIAL CATEGORIES WORK SPECIFICALLY. SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REVIEW ALL OF THE COMMENTS. WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING A DRAFT BACK IN -- OR HAVE ANOTHER DRAFT OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. AND PUT THIS THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS BUT SOME HEARINGS EARLY NEXT YEAR. I HOPE THAT WAS FIVE MINUTES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY COPIES DO YOU HAVE OF THAT PRESENTATION. JUST A MASTER COPY? >> I HAVE THREE COPIES, FOUR COPIES TOTAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU LEAVE THEM WITH US. A FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE MAY WANT TO SEE THEM SINCE THIS IS NEW INFORMATION. AGAIN, IT WASN'T FOUND ONLINE AND I PERHAPS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MORE COPIES. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS DID, BUT I DID RECEIVE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SEE THE INFORMATION. >>JENNIFER MALONE: ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE ALSO HAPPY TO SEND YOU A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION VIA YOUR E-MAIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU CAN DO THAT, I CAN E-MAIL IT TO THE CONSTITUENTS. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD HIS MICROPHONE ON AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT. AND SOMEWHERE IN THERE, DO WE HAVE NEW THINGS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TO HELP SAVE THE WORLD? >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WILL TURN THAT QUESTION -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS A QUESTION FOR YOU. >>JENNIFER MALONE: SHAWN COLLEGE MAY BE THE ONE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT. THINGS I SEE AND I AM SURE OTHERS SEE AND WE DON'T RECOGNIZE IT. WHEN YOU HAVE A HIGH WIND OR A SMALL HURRICANE OR A BIG ONE COMES THROUGH AND YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. TRAVEL THE COUNTRY AND LOOK HOW MANY TIMES THEY GET HIT BY A HURRICANE COMPARED TO US AND WE HAVE CONCRETE BLOCKS THE FIRST FLOOR. 90% OF THE TIME, IT IS ALL WOOD AND THE EAVE HANGING OUT WHERE THE WOOD CAN COME UNDER IT AND LIFT IT UP. ONCE THE EAVES ARE GONE, THE SECOND FLOOR COLLAPSES. IN OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. SECOND FLOOR AND IT IS ALL CONCRETE, INCLUDING THE ROOF. DONE WITH A LOT OF REBAR WIRE UNDER IT. THE WATER HITS AND ROLLS OFF. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO IT DIFFERENTLY MAYBE BETTER THAN WHAT I HAVE SEEN. WHEN I GO TO THE FOREIGN COUNTRY WHAT GETS MESSED UP ARE THE FARMERS THAT LIVE IN SHACKS. BUT IN THE MAIN OF THE CITIES, THEY CAN WITHSTAND A HURRICANE. WE CAN'T. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A WATER PROBLEM. AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE HE LIVE AT. I TRIED TO CHANGE THAT. BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE THE INCOMING TIDE AND HIGH TIDE WHEN IT RAINS AND BODY OF WATER BY WEIGHT IS GREATER COMING IN THAN GOING OUT. BECAUSE IT HITS IT AND GREATER WHERE IT CAME FROM. >> YES, COUNCIL. SHAWN COLLEGE, DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SPECIALIZE IN AREA OF ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE ISSUES OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, CECILE LEN SEE, CLIMATE CHANGE, SEA LEVEL RISE. THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT. COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT THE SAME TIME AS THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT PAUSE THEY ARE INTRINSICALLY DECLINED. WE ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT IN DEALING WITHS THESE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT. AS MENTIONED COASTAL A HAZARD AREA IS ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AMOUNT. I TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE A GREAT PROPOSAL AND THE RESEARCH DONE BY THE ACTION PLAN SHOW THAT MOST JURORS DING DO NOT ALLOW INCREASES OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN THEIR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. WE ARE PROPOSING -- AND RIGHT NOW YOUR COMP PLAN HAS NO NET INCREASE. WE ARE PROPOSING, I THINK, A BALANCED APPROACH. NOT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. VARIED OPINIONS. SOME PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE MORE LIBERAL. SOME PEOPLE WANT IT TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE OF HOW YOU ALLOW DEVELOPMENT. WING WE HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH IN OUR PROPOSAL WITH SOME LIMITED AREAS, PARTICULARLY IN -- YOU KNOW, LIMITED AREAS WHERE IT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE TO ASK FOR INCREASES IN DENSITY. YES, WE ARE ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BOTH SIDES ARE NOT HAPPY, IT IS A GOOD ONE. >> SHAWN COLLEGE: EXACTLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AN COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. DON'T FORGET ABOUT THE FIVE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I NEVER USE MY FIVE MINUTES. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF FOR, ONE, LISTENING. WHAT YOU ARE WORKING ON WITH FUTURE LAND USE. I THINK THE RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TIME THIS PLAN REALLY RECOGNIZED THAT WE HAVE BUILDING TAMPA, NOT JUST FOR FUTURE GROWTH, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. IT RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND INVESTED IN TAMPA AND HAVE THEIR KID THERE. AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD SMART IN AREAS THAT MAKE SENSE. AND BUILD THAT DENSITY IN AREAS THAT MAKE SENSE AND RESTRICT IT IN AREAS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE. IT IS INJECTING A LOT OF COMMON SENSE. UP APPRECIATE TAKING THE INPUT FROM THE LAST MEETING AND WORKING WITH US ON THAT. I THINK -- OF COURSE, THESE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE WORKS IN PROGRESS AND I AM SURE THEY WILL BE TWEAKING ALONG THE WAY, BUT A GOOD JOB. AND THANK YOU NBEING RESPONSIBL. AND THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? NO? WE APPRECIATE IT. IF YOU CAN LEAVE THOSE COPIES, I WILL PASS THEM OUT FOR FOLKS HERE. IF YOU CAN E-MAIL IT AS WELL, I CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE CONSTITUENCY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, A MOTION TO OPEN UP THE 10:00 PUBLIC HEARINGS. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. NONQUASI JUDICIAL, THE FIRST TWO. WE WILL NOT SWEAR ANYBODY IN UN UNTIL. ITEM NUMBER 57. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR, I WAS ABSENT BUT I DID WATCH THE FIRST HEARING SO UP TO SPEED AND READY TO VOTE ON THIS. >> ROSS SAMONS. ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADO ADOPTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS. NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. WE ARE PRETTY CLEAR TODAY. WHO IS NEXT? YES, MR. COLLINS, COME ON UP. >>DANNY COLLINS: GOOD MORNING, DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. SECOND READING FOR IF THE FUTURE MAP AMENDMENT AT PROPERTIES 8814 NORTH 14th STREET AND 8813 AND 88 -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 34th AND 35th STREET. THIS SAYS 57. WE HAVE A 57. COME ON. YO YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. ALEX SCHALER, NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE. FIRST READING APPROVAL BACK IN AUGUST AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING AS WELL. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF NEEDED. THANKS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 57? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. I AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATE, CLOSING OR DISCONTINUING A PORTION OF 4th AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF THIRD AVENUE SOUTH OF CSX RAILROAD, EAST OF 34th STREET AND WEST OF 35th STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF EAST BAY PARK. SECOND REVISION. A SUBDIVISION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY -- MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEAROF, AND BRICK STREETS LYING IN SAID RIGHT-OF-WAY BOTH SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS AS SET FORTH AND PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTY FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. SECONDS SEC-- >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GO TO ITEM 58. >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS, AGAIN, WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 24-03 FOR 0891 NORTH 13th STREET, 8814 NORTH 14th STREET AND 8813 AND 8820 NORTH BROOKS FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. FIRST APPROVED ON FIRST READING AUGUST 29. AND BACK FOR SECOND READING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MA HAS IN SEE. >> RYAN POPE. R R RYE MA HAS IN SEE TAMPA. . >> WE HAVE A CLOSE MO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU. NUMBER 58, TA/CPA 24.0 3 PRESIDENT-ELECTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT 8901 NORTH 13th STREET AND 8813th AND 8820 NORTH BROOK STREET FOR RESIDENTIAL. FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO R-10 TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL,LI PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABLE. AND PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>. >>DANNY COLLINS: WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOR PROPERTIES NORTHWEST OF NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE AND WEST BROAD RICK STREET. THE WHERE THE TO CHANGE THE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-20. PRESENTED ON FIRST READING AUGUST 29 AND BACK BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON 59. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE TA LOW PRESSURECPA 24-09, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE AND BEST BRADDOCK STREET FOLIO NUMBER 182406-0005 FROM RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM 60. >>DANNY COLLINS: DARN DAN WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF OF SPECKED READING FOR TA/CPA 24-10. LOCATED 2101 WEST MAIN STREET TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM COMMERCIAL 35 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE. IT WAS BEFORE YOU ON THE 29th AND BACK FOR SECOND READING. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS? NO? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 60. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 24-10, ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE PROPERTY 101 WEST MAIN STREET FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC-35 TO RECREATIONAL/OPEN SPACE, R ARE /*R/OS. REPEAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING ABSENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1:30 THAT WE CAN'T GET TO. CAN WE TAKE ITEM NUMBER 66? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION. IF NOT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL DO A PRESENTATION FOR 66. IF SOMETHING CAN BE DONE UNDER STAFF REPORT, WE CAN ASK IF ANYBODY IS PRESENT FOR STAFF REPORT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL PASS ON 66. A COUPLE OF STAFF REPORTS DOES A STAFF WANT TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS. LET'S DO A TEN-MINUTE RECESS AND WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 10:30 LEGALLY. WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 10:30. . >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HURTAK IS HERE. >>CLERK: WE HAVE A QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FYI, WE WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00 SO YOU KNOW. WE WILL HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 61 FOLLOWED BY 47. WE WILL DO 61 AFTER 47. >>MELISSA JONES: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YOU RECEIVED A SUBSTITUTE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. PURSUANT TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE FIRST HEARING. WE ADDED A PARKING PLAN AS AN EXHIBIT AND WE SWAPPED OUT THE EXHIBIT FOR THE PARK TO BE THE SAME EXHIBIT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO THE DEVELOPER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU FIRST. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REFERENCE IT EARLIER, BUT WE RECEIVED A LET FROM THE BASE YESTERDAY SAYING THAT -- THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. >>MELISSA JONES: I WILL LET MISS FEELEY HANDLE THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RECEIVED IT TOO. I THINK IT WENT TO EVERYBODY. MISS FEELEY. IF WE CAN GET A COPY OF THAT E-MAIL PUT INTO THE RECORD. I WILL HAVE MY -- YOU WANT MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO PRINT IT UP. IF MY LEGISLATIVE AID WILL PRINT UP THE COPY OF THE LETTER FROM THE AIR FORCE BASE. YOU ALREADY HAVE IT? WE WILL PUT IT IN THE RECORD. >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. I REVIEW THE LETTER THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE BASE. I HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH MR. RODRIGUEZ. I DID JUST WANT TO GO OVER -- I HAVE AN AERIAL. AND ALSO BEFORE WE LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT THAT AERIAL, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK JUST ABOUT THE AQs WHICH IS REFERENCED IN THAT LETTER. YOU SEAR HERE IN PINK. AQ 1 AND 2. YOU WILL SEE WE HAVE TWO LARGE PARKS, GADSDEN AND ALSO THE MacDILL PARK THAT COMES THROUGH. GOING TO THIS, YOU WILL SEE THE TRAIL THAT COMES HERE AND LOGICALLY ENDS UP AT PINEWOOD. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN FOR GREENWAYS AND TRAILS SINCE 2001 SINCE BEFORE WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS TO BE A TRAILHEAD. AND THAT IS -- I THINK IN THAT LETTER IT REFERENCED PAVILIONS AND OTHER ACTIVITY GOING TO TAKE PLACE THAT WAS NOT TAKING PLACE HERE. IT WOULD BE A TRAIL SIMILAR TO T THIS, AS WELL AS A FEW BENCHES. I BELIEVE THREE OR FOUR BENCHES, BENCHES THAT HOLD THREE OR FOUR EACH. AND THE INDICATION THIS WILL BE ACCUMULATIONS PEOPLE IN THIS PASSIVE PARK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THE INTENT OF THAT. THAT BEING STATED, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. LET MacDILL SPEAK TO THAT. THE DEVELOPER AS WELL. THIS THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL, THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL WHETHER OR NOT THAT AGREEMENT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE GRANT UNDER WHICH WE PURCHASED IT. IT DID NOT SAY THERE COULD NOT BE ANY DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS PURCHASED TO BE A PARK. SO WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT INTENT AS WE PURCHASED IN '05 AND PUT IN THE MASTER PLAN IN 2001. I AM NOT SURE IF TONY MULKEY IS EITHER ON THE LINE OR HERE TODAY, BUT THAT IS THE INFORMATION I HAVE TO SHARE. ONE OTHER THING. I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I DIDN'T MENTION THIS. I HAVE -- THIS IS MacDILL'S VISITOR CENTER WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND PARKING THERE. THAT ALSO IS IN THE CLEAR ZONE AREA. SO I AM A LITTE CONFUSED BY WHERE THE CONVERSATION IS COMING FROM. I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IT. BUT I WILL LET THE DEVELOPER SPEAK, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH THE BASE WHEN THEY FIRST APPROACHED THIS CONCEPT AND THE BASE WAS, IN FACT, IN SUPPORT. SO I AM JUST TRYING TO PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER THIS MORNING. BUT HAPPY TO TALK FURTHER. JUST WANTED TO SHEAR THAT INFORMATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS FEELEY, CAN YOU THROW THE MAP OF THE CLEAR ZONE ON THERE AGAIN FOR US. THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER TOWER -- I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. CAN YOU POINT ON THE MAP WHERE THIS PROPOSED PARK IS? >>ABBYE FEELEY: SURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND I GUESS -- AND WITH THE OTHER -- THE OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU POINTED OUT THE VISITORS CENTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION ON BE THIS -- ON THIS PARCEL. YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING -- WE ARE NOT PUTTING A TWO-STORY OR THREE-STORY BUILDING ON HERE. >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM CONFUSED OF THE E-MAIL. I DON'T KNOW LEAVING IT WILDERNESS HOW MUCH LOWER DENSITY THAT YOU CAN GET OTHER THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WONDER. IF I CAN ASK LEGAL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN THIS KIND OF NOTE ON A FILE. ANY KIND OF FEDERAL LAW OR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE REGULATIONS THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE ANY OF OUR ZONING CODES OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? AND THEN SEPARATELY, I WONDER IF -- IF STAFF HAD TIME TO TALK TO MacDILL AND WHETHER WE SHOULD ALLOW THOSE DISCUSSIONS TO GO FORWARD BEFORE WE -- BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE, WHAT DEFERENCE WE SHOULD MAKE TO MacDILL. >>MELISSA JONES: I CAN ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, NOT A FEDERAL LAW TO WOULD PROHIBIT A PARK OR A PARKING LOT TO BE THERE. AS FAR AS THE MacDILL STAFF, WE WILL -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE MUTE THAT? MR. MULKEY, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF UNTIL WE CALL ON YOU. >> GOOD MORNING, ADDIE CLARK, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER. I WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT ABBY HAD SAID. SHE IS EXACTLY RIGHT, WHEN THE GRANT WAS DONE IN 2005, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS ALWAYS CONSIDERED TO BE A TRAILHEAD. SO I HAVE THE -- I HAVE THE RESOLUTION HERE. IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO. PERFECT. SO THIS IS THE RESOLUTION. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF ZOOM INTO THIS PARAGRAPH SPECIFICALLY. SO TALKING ABOUT HOW THE -- HOW THE ACQUISITION OF THE LAND WOULD PRESERVE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND ENJOYED BY THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE USE OF THE GREENWAY TRAILS AND PARKS -- OR GREENWAYS AND TRAILS. THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE TYPE OF GRANTS AND FUNDS TO DEVELOP IT FOR LOW DENSITY RECREATIONAL USES. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALWAYS CONSIDERED AND IS, IN FACT, STILL THE INTENT TODAY. AS DISCUSSED, WE ARE NOT PUTTING ANY SORT OF VERTICAL STRUCTURE SUCH AS PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, PAVILION, ANYTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF HIGH ACTIVITY AREA IN THIS LOCATION. THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH MacDILL AND KNOWING THE SEVERE REGULATIONS IN THIS AREA. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE WHO CAN SPEAK WITH HIS CONVERSATION WITH THE BASE, DATING ALL THE WAY BACK WITH THE FIRST REZONING OF THE HOTEL OCCURRED BACK IN 2022. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE LETTER. HAVE YOU SEEN A COPY, THE E-MAIL THAT WAS SENT? >> WE WERE NOT SENT THE INITIAL E-MAIL. >>BILL CARLSON: BUT SAYS IN THERE SPECIFICALLY THEY OBJECT TO A PARKING LOT ALSO. AND SO -- JUST -- MAYBE WHAT YOUR RESPONSE IS AND WHAT LEGAL AND STAFF'S RESPONSE IS TO THAT PART AS WELL. >> SURE. SO WITH THE PARK, IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS PASSIVE TRAILHEAD AREA THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BACK IN THE GRANT, PARKING IS NEEDED FOR THAT PREPONDERANCE LARRY TO THAT USE. OF COURSE WE DON'T EXPECT THE PARKING TO BE FILLED 100% OF THE TIME, BUT THAT IS THERE. AND ALSO KIND OF WANTED TO PUT UP THIS AERIAL SO YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE LOCATIONS AROUND -- HE BELIEVE THE VISITOR CENTER IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT AREA. ALSO A SELF-STORAGE. AND WE ARE -- WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE ACTIVELY TRYING NOT TO PUT PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY BUT WE KNOW THAT PARKING IS REQUIRED FOR THIS USE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES, I THINK THIS IS ON SECOND READING. AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH IF WE ASK MacDILL TO COME AND MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER, WHATEVER, TO HAVE AN AMICABLE WORKING RELATION. WE HAD A FANTASTIC PARTZER IN MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE. SOMETHING YOU DO TODAY MAY 15 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN LOOKING AT BASE CLOSURES OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW. I AM JUST SAYING THAT IT IT'S -- WHEN MacDILL SENDS A LETTER, I AM SURE THAT MR. JAMES RODRIGUEZ, CTR -- OF WHAT, AMC MEANS. SOMEBODY HAD ASKED HIM TO WRITE A LETTER OR HE ASKED SOMEBODY FOR PERMISSION TO WRITE A LETTER. MORE THAN JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL WRITING A LETTER. FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT CLEARED UP BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. I DON'T WANT TO IN ANYWAY JEOPARDIZE YOUR PLANS AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE. >> DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND. AND I HAVE BRIAN FUNK WHO CAN TALK OF THE CONVERSATIONS HE HAD WITH MacDILL OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. >> GOOD WRONG, BRIAN FUNK, DEVELOPER. SPEAKING TO THIS, THE LETTER -- I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS 15 MINUTES AGO. WE MADE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO THE BASE. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE SEEN OF SCREEN SHOT FROM THE E-MAIL A WEEK AND A HALF, BUT THE LINE OF THE BASIS OF THIS CONVERSATION IS INCORRECT. THE LINE DEPICTED IN AN IMAGE THAT I DON'T HAVE I WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE E-MAIL CHAIN IS 100 FEET TO THE WEST. WE ESTABLISHED THAT TO THE BASE. E-MAIL FROM 2022, AMY DOY, DIRECTOR OF THE SIXTH CIVIL ENGINEERING SQUADRON AND HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE BUILDING HEIGHTS UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE WHICH CAN GO TO 79 FEET. I FIND IT KIND OF CURIOUS THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE MARGINAL EFFECT OF THE PARKING LOT AND A PARK. THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES, I DON'T HAVE BECAUSE I WASN'T PREPARED BECAUSE WE JUST FOUND IT. DO ALLOW FOR THIS. TRUTH BE KNOWN, YOU PUT THE CLEAR LINE IN THE CORRECT PLACE AS INCORRECTLY PLACE ALL THE IMAGES AND EXHIBITS, INCLUDING THE ATTACHMENTS TO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT AND THE LEASE. SIMPLY PULL OUT THE AIM MANAGE THEY ARE REFERENCING, THEY ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE. THEY ARE INCORRECT IN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF LINE. WE SPECIFICALLY STAYED AHEAD OF THIS. NO PARKING IN THE CLEAR SCENE ANYWAY. IF YOU TAKE -- THE PREMISE IS FLAWED, THEREFORE THE CONCLUSION IS FT. LAUDERDALE. IF THEY TOOK THE TIME AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MEN TO CONTACT US, I AM HOPEFUL THAT PEOPLE FROM THE BASE WILL REACH OUT AND GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS BECAUSE SEEMS VERY LATE AND KIND OF CURIOUS. SO ANYWAY. BUT I DO HAVE ALL THE OTHER INFORMATION BUT REQUESTED LAST TIME REGARDING TAXES AND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I AM NOT HERE TO JUDGE YOU, SIR OR ANYBODY ELSE. BUT I'M HERE TO REPRESENT YOURSELF AND MacDILL AND THE PUBLIC ALL AT ONCE. >> I THINK YOU WILL FIND US WITHIN THE LATITUDE AND WE WILL HAVE TO HAMSTER OUT WITH THEM AND BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ASK, ONCE WE GET THIS, IT HAS GOT TO BE LOOKED AT. THIS IS MY OPINION. >> UNDERSTOOD. IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT. I UNDERSTAND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MEET WITH YOU, US. WE CAN'T GET INVOLVED WITH THE CONVERSATION -- I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CONTACT THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, JAMES A. RODRIGUEZ. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE IS HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT -- I PUT MY MIC ON, I WOULD LIKE MacDILL TO -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I RETRACT EVERYTHING I SAID BECAUSE HE IS HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP. WELL, WHEN YOU COME UP, I WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS. ARE YOU TONY RODRIGUEZ, THE AUTHOR OF THIS E-MAIL? >> I AM, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> I AM TONY RODRIGUEZ. I AM THE PORTFOLIO OPTIMIZATION MANAGER WITH MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE. WE -- WE JUST FOUND OUT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE FIRST READING. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WAS WITH THE CITY STAFF MEMBER. AND THEY LITERALLY HELD UP THEIR CELL PHONE AND SAID CITY COUNCIL IS DISCUSS THIS RIGHT NOW. WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT GOING FORWARD. SO WE ARE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND HOTEL ON -- ON THEIR SITE. TO GO BACK TO 2022, MacDILL COORDINATED WITH MR. FUNK AND HIS LEGAL TEAM ON THE SIX-STORY HOTEL, WHICH IS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PARCEL -- OF THEIR PARCEL. WE YET TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE FIVE-STORY HOTEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF THEIR PARCEL. WE WILL -- DUE TO THE MANAGE THEIRRY SURFACES, WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ANALYSIS THAT THAT FIVE-STORY WILL BE CLEAR. I RESPECTIVE OF THAT. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I PUT UP HERE ON THE ELMO, ACCORDING TO OUR GIS STAFF AT MacDILL, THE ORANGE LINE IS WHERE THE CLEAR ZONE LINE RUNS THROUGH THE CITY'S PARCEL. NOW TO THE -- TO THE EAST SIDE OF THAT LINE, THAT IS WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE. AND THE -- AND THE OTHER WHICH IS PRIMARILY PARKING LOT, THAT THE PROPOSED PARKING LOT WHICH IS SHOWN THERE. NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. YOU CAN HAVE A PARKING LOT OUT THERE. BUT WE HAVE THE -- I REFERENCED IT IN THE MEMO, THE ACU STUDY WHICH IS OUR NOISE AND LAND USE STUDY THAT WE DO EVERY -- EVERY MILITARY MISSION -- EVERY MILITARY WITH A FLYING MISSION HAS A STUDY. AND CITY STAFF COORDINATED WITH THIS TO PRODUCE THIS DOCUMENT. THIS WAS FINALIZED IN OCTOBER 2023. CITY STAFF WAS THERE FOR THAT. WITHIN THAT, THERE IS A LAND USE TABLE BACK IN APPENDIX A THAT THE AIR FORCE RECOMMENDS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT OF COMPATIBLE AND INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE, ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONE ONE AND TWO. FOR THE CLEAR ZONE, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY GOVERNMENT THAT DO YOU NOT HAVE PARKS. AND DO YOU NOT HAVE PARKING LOTS WITHIN A CLEAR ZONE. WE TRY TO KEEP THE CLEAR ZONE CLEAR BECAUSE THIS IS THE AREA OF HIGHEST POTENTIAL FOR AN AIRCRAFT ENT. OKAY. THIS IS LITERALLY AT THE END OF THE RUNWAY. WHEN WE -- WHEN WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO GET THIS PARCEL PICKED UP, THIS WAS TO KEEP THIS CLEAR ZONE CLEAR. AS WAS MENTIONED, THERE WERE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES ON THIS PARCEL. AND THE -- THE CITY WAS WILLING TO BUY IT WITH STATE DEFENSE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT MONEY. THAT IS WHY THE STATE PUTS THIS UP TO PROTECT FROM ENCROACHMENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ASKED FOR HIM TO COME AND SPEAK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM? >>LYNN HURTAK: UNTIL HE IS FINISHED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T DO UNTIL HE IS FINISHED. WE HAVE TIME LIMITS. >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW MANY MORE MINUTES DO YOU NEED TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> TWO MORE MINUTES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TWO MORE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. BACK IN -- SO PACK IN THE 2005 TIME FRAME, IF YOU CAN THINK BACK THAT FAR IN PERSPECTIVE. I AM LOOKING AT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, GREENWAYS AND TRAILS RUNNING THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA. TRYING TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN BAYSHORE AND PICNIC ISLAND. THE BASE HAD CREATED A LEASE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF OUR FENCE LINE FOR THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS TO MOVE THROUGH. WE NEEDED TO GET THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS ACROSS DALE MABRY, AND DOWN TO OUR -- TO OUR FENCE LINE THERE WEST OF DALE MABRY. THIS PARCEL WAS GOING TO BE THAT GREENWAYS AND TRAILS CONNECTION. SO TRAIL MOVE ARE A CONNECTION. NO AMENITIES LIKE A PARK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. NO AMENITIES OR PARK. GREENWAYS AND TRAILS IS LIKE A ROAD. IT IS NOT LIKE A PARK. SO WE WERE -- THAT IS KIND OF HOW THE NEGOTIATIONS WENT BACK IN 2005 WHEN WE WORKED THIS OUT. . SO PUTTING -- PUTTING A PARK IN THE CLEAR ZONE CREATES HEALTH AND SAFETY HAZARDS. AS I SAID THE AREA OF HIGHEST AIRCRAFT INCIDENT POTENTIAL IN THE CLEAR ZONE. AND, ALSO, IF YOU PUT -- IF YOU PUT PLACES LIKE -- GATHERING PLACES OF PEOPLE IN A CLEAR ZONE ASIDE FROM IMPACTING HEALTH AND SAFETY, IT WILL IMPACT THE AIR OPERATIONS OF MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT TO US. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CLENDENIN AND CARLSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HELLO THERE. >> HELLO, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID WE EVER WORK TOGETHER IN I WAS A MANAGER AT T.I.A.? >> MIGHT CROSSED PATHS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR NAME IS FAMILIAR. I'M SURE YOU MUST HAVE BEEN. >> I HAVE BEEN AROUND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BET YOUR NAME SOUNDS FAMILIAR. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. I GET IT WITH THE AIRPORTS. TAMPA INTERNATIONAL. ALL AIRPORTS PROTECT THEIR AREAS TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY. I GET THE POINTS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE; HOWEVER, AS FAR AS, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER WHEN I WAS TALKING TO MISS FEELEY. REGARDING LOW DENSITY AND HAVING A PARK PROPERTY HERE, JUST ABOUT AS LOW DENSITY AND LOW USE THAT YOU CAN GET OTHER THAN LEAVING IT BARREN. MY QUESTION IS, IF MacDILL'S INTEREST IT LEAVING THIS PROPERTY BARREN, WHY WOULDN'T THEY JUST PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROTECT -- PROTECT PROPERTY, WHY DON'T YOU PURCHASE IT. IF THIS -- THAT IS -- AND, AGAIN, WHY WOULD YOU -- IF THE INTEREST WAS THAT GREAT, WHY WOULD YOU BUILD YOUR VISITORS CENTER AND ALLOW ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED IN THAT SAME AREA AND I STILL THINK -- BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING AND NOT CONGREGATING VISITOR CENTER IS FOR A APPLICABLE. YOU ARE NOT CONGREGATING. NOT THROWING A CONCERT FOR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WAIT FOR AN INCIDENT TO OCCUR. SAME THING WITH THIS PARK. A VERY, VERY LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T GET IT. OTHER THAN -- IN A DENSITY POPULATED PENINSULA. WE HAVE -- MacDILL IS AN INTERESTING SCENARIO BECAUSE THE CITY HAS GROWN UP AROUND IT. IT IS ON THE AREA THE TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AFRNT. IT IS COMPLEX. WE HAVE TO GIVE AND TAKE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC USE AND PRIVATE USE AND THE -- YOU KNOW, OUR AIRPORTS, HOW THEY INTEGRATE AND THE COMPLEXITIES OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION OF TRYING -- YOU KNOW, OF PITCHING FOR THE INTEREST OF THE AIR FORCE BASE, BUT I THINK IN A BALANCED PERSPECTIVE, THIS ARE IS A REALLY GOOD BALANCE. AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY DOCTOR VERY LOW ASK. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING -- YOU ALREADY HAVE AN APPROVED HOTEL ON -- THAT IS ACTUALLY QUITE HIGH. SO WHEN YOU TALK OF THE STEP DOWN FROM THAT HOTEL ON DALE MABRY TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING OF THE USE OF THIS PARKING LOT. I MEAN, PROBABLY -- I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THE STEP DOWN WILL LOOK LIKE FROM THE HEIGHT -- THE APPROVED HOTEL ON DALE MABRY. I MEAN -- IT IS NOT THAT -- IT IS NOT THAT MUCH OF A -- OF -- IT WOULD BE A DRAMATIC GLIDE PATH TO HIT THE CAR IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HIT THE HOTEL. AGAIN, COMMON SENSE PREVAILS. LOW-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK THAT MacDILL WILL BE HAPPY WITH THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND VIERA. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST HIT THREE QUICK QUESTIONS AND THEN YOU CAN ANSWER THEM IF YOU WANT. NUMBER ONE, MISS FEELEY SAID THAT IN 2005, THE CONTRACT ANTICIPATED A PARK. AND THAT THE CITY ALWAYS ANTICIPATED A PARK THERE. I WONDER FROM -- IS THAT -- IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION OF IT? AND DOES MacDILL HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS THAT -- THAT CONTRADICT THAT? NUMBER TWO, I ASKED THE QUESTION OF LEGAL HERE, ARE THERE ANY FEDERAL LAWS THAT SUPERSEDE WHAT WE MIGHT DO? AND THIRD, YOU SAID THAT -- YOU KNOW, IT -- TO NOT THE GRAPHIC, AFFECT HEALTH AND SAFETY BUT ALSO MIGHT AFFECT THE FLIGHT LINE. SO WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL REPERCUSSIONS OF THAT LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHA IR, MAY I ANSWER THE QUESTIONS? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >> FIRST OF ALL, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH RESPECT TO THE VISITORS CENTER. WE AT THE BASE CARRY WHAT WE CALL A PERMANENT WAIVER FOR THAT BECAUSE NECESSARY FOR THE OPERATION OF THE BASE. REALLY NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT A VISITOR ENTRY CONTROL.AT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE OTHER THAN THE SOUTH END OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY. THAT IS OUR PRIMARY ENTRANCE. SO WE -- THE -- BASICALLY THE WING COMMANDER IN THE AIR FORCE ASSUMES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT WAIVER FOR ANY SORT OF INCIDENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE CLEAR ZONE WITH RESPECT TO HAVING THE VISITORS SENT THEY ARE. THAT IS THE ANSWER FOR THAT. WITH RESPECT, THERE ARE NO FEDERAL LAWS AS FAR AS LAND USE GOES. WE AT THE AIR FORCE DO NOT DICTATE TO YOU WHAT THE LAND USE DECISIONS ARE. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU. THIS IS WHAT THE AIKEN STUDY IS, IT IS A RECOMMENDATION. NOW THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT IT SAYS SPECIFIC TO THE CLEAR ZONES, NO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONES. SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT FOR WHAT IT MEANS IF THERE IS A PARKING LOT THERE. LIGHTING FOR THAT PARKING LOT. SOMETHING TO BE DISCUSSED. CERTAINLY NO STRUCTURES AND ALSO WHEN THE PARK STARRED INVESTIGATING THIS. WE WERE TOLD A COUPLE OF PAVILIONS AS WELL AS SOME BENCHES OUT THERE. MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE. THE PARK IS A CONCEPT. IT IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN POTENTIALLY GATHER AND -- AND IT IS -- THAT IS WHERE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERN IS, SHOULD -- SHOULD THERE BE AN AIRCRAFT INCIDENT OCCURRED WHILE THERE IS A GATHERING OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, POTENTIALLY LIVE COULD BE LOST UNNECESSARILY. SO AS FAR AS ANY LOWER DENSITY USE IN THE PARK. FRANKLY, SIR, THE GREENWAYS AND TRAIL MOVING THROUGH WILL BE A LOWER DENSITY STILL, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACTIVITY CENTER WITH THAT. PEOPLE ARE JUST MOVING THROUGH. AND ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU DID PARKING OUTSIDE THE CLEAR ZONE, NO PROBLEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN SLEERZ. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. MY COMMENT IS VERY SIMPLE. SINCE APPARENTLY WE HEARD MR. FUNK SAY, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD IT SHALL CALL ME NAIVE, STEP OUTSIDE AND TALK FOR 20 MINUTES TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE RESPECTIVE POSITIONS, NOT IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WILL CHANGE ANYTHING UP HERE, BUT MAYBE, AGAIN, THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY REAL -- REALLY GIVEN YOUR POSITION AND THE POSITION YOU OCCUPY AND RELATIVELY LAST MINUTE AND MAYBE THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH PARTIES. JUST AN IDEA. >> GREAT IDEA, SIR. HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE. I THINK IT WILL BE -- THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN CONVERSATION. BUT WHENEVER -- WHENEVER THAT CAN OCCUR THAT WILL BE GREAT FOR US. PERHAPS WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE OTHER FOLKS INVOLVED WITH CONVERSATION FROM THE BASE. I WAS SENT DOWN HERE RATHER QUICKLY LIKE I SAID. VERY NOTICE. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WHEN THE FIRST HEARING WAS GOING ON. AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO GOING FORWARD. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THE I DON'T TO SAY THAT YOU MENTIONED IT IN YOUR E-MAIL. YEAH, THE APPLICANT -- YES, RIGHT HERE. THE RESOLUTION 2002. THAT IS NOT RESOLUTION I WAS LOOKING FOR. IT SAYS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT AGREEMENT FROM 2006, THAT LAND ACQUISITION IS FOR ENCROACHMENT PROTECTION AND ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER BETWEEN MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE SOUTH TAMPA COMMUNITY. IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT -- IN THE LET'S SEE. RESOLUTION 2005-699. TO ENTER INTO THIS APPLICATION, DEFENSE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT APPLICATION FOR WHICH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS PARCEL WAS ACQUIRED AND SAID HERE, THE SUMMARY OF THE PROJECT THAT ONE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE LAND IT WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OTHER TYPES OF GRANTS AND CITY FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE LAND FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND LOW DENSITY RECREATIONAL USES AND FROM YOUR DEFINITION, LOW DENSITY RECREATIONAL USE ALSO BE A TRAIL THROUGH, NOT A PARK. AM I JUST -- >> THAT IS HOW EVERYTHING WAS WORKED OUT BACK IN 2005. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN -- >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH -- IF INSTEAD OF -- YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THERE WERE NOT A PARK BUT, SAY, A LARGER FOREST, INCREASING THE TREES -- THE TREES WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE? >> CORRECT, AS LONG AS THOSE TREES DON'T GET SO TALL AND IF HIT THE IMAGINARY -- >>LYNN HURTAK: SO NO MAPLES. I HAVE A MAPLE NEXT DOOR THAT TOWERS OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PRETTY TALL TREE. WE WOULD BE CLEAR OF MOST TREES GROWING IN SOUTH TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE -- YOU AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK OF THE USES AS FAR AS THE LAND USES. IS THERE A LEGAL FEDERAL DEFINITION OF THAT, THE RECREATIONAL USE IN THAT AGREEMENT? IS THAT DEFINED SOMEWHERE? >> I AM NOT -- THAT IS A QUESTION FOR THE LAWYERS, SIR. I AM NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK STAFF. IS THERE -- FROM THAT AGREEMENT THAT WAS REACHED BACK THEN, IS THERE A DEFINITION OF AGREEMENT. >> THERE WASN'T A DEFINITION IN THE AGREEMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST A INTERPRETATION? VERY GOOD. BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING AND DEALING THIS WITH 32 YEARS IN FAA. AIRPORTS HAVE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THEIR SPACE. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE IN A DENSELY POPULATED AREA AND EVERY CITY HAS THE SAME CHALLENGES DEALING WITH AIRPORTS, WE HAVE TO FIND OF HAVE GIVE AND TAKE AND COMPROMISE. IF YOU BUILD AN AIRPORT IN THE MIDDLE OF OF NOWHERE, YOU CAN HAVE A VERY STERILE, VERY DEFINED LINES. BUT WHEN YOU PLOP AN AIRPORT INTO AN URBAN AREA. YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPES OF COMPROMISES. AND, I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS AS CLOSE TO A COMPROMISE THAT YOU CAN GET HAVING A PARKING LOT, 12-FOOT VEHICLES, WHATEVER THEY ARE. AND MAYBE A FEW OTHER SUPPORT LIGHTING STRUCTURE AND THE PARK. ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WE ARE ON THE VERY EDGE OF YOUR -- YOUR CLEAR ZONE. IF WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT OF OF WHERE THAT CLEAR ZONE ACTUALLY IS. I THINK THERE IS DISCUSSION WHAT THAT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE ON THE -- AS THE OVERLAY. SO, AGAIN, THIS LOOKS TO ME LIKE -- IT IS -- I GET YOUR POSITION BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY -- YOUR ROLE IS TO DEFEND 100% THE INTEREST OF THE AIR FORCE BASE. OUR ROLE IS TO FIND BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. THAT IS MY POINT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE QUESTION. IS THE WELCOME CENTER CONSIDERED IN THE CLEAR ZONE? >> YES, IT IS. AS I EXPLAINED BEFORE, THE AIR FORCE CARRIES WHAT WE CALL A "PERMANENT WAIVER" ON THAT. THE AIR FORCE -- SIGNED UP FROM A THREE-STAR GENERAL FROM AIR MOBILITY COMMAND. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I UNDERSTAND, ACCOUNT THREE-STAR GENERAL SIGN OFF ON A PARKING LOT? I DON'T SEE WHAT THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IS IF THEY ARE SIGNING OFF ON SOMETHING LIKE A WELCOME CENTER WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY GATHERING. >> WE CARRY THE WAIVER BECAUSE IT IS ON OUR PROPERTY. AND PHYSICALLY MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE'S PROPERTY. WE DON'T HAVE FOIG -- ANYTHING OFF BASE. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT. MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE KNOWS THAT WE ARE IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. THAT RUNWAY CAME AFTER THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN WORLD WAR II. ALREADY DEVELOPMENT IN BALLAST POINT AND ALONG THE INTERBAY PENINSULA. SINCE THERE WAS A PROGRAM THAT STARTED BACK IN 1973, ONE OF NEXT AND UNDERSTANDING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OFF BASE TO FIND A BALANCE. WHETHER INCOMPATIBLE LAND USES, TRAFFIC IMPACTS, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AS BEST WE CAN TO WORK ON THESE THINGS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. YES? >> GOOD MORNING, ADDSY CLARK, ASHLEY DRIVE. WANT TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. I THINK AS DISCUSSED, THE INTENT HERE IS TO HAVE A VERY PASSIVE AREA. THERE ARE NO SWINGS, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, REST ROOMS, STRUCTURES. YOU KNOW THE FACT THERE ARE NO REST ROOMS REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE INTENT OF BEING RESPECTFUL OF THIS AREA AND THE LOCATION. JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. AND, AGAIN, I KNOW IT HAS BEEN REFERENCED A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I SHOWED IT BEFORE, THE INTENT OF ALWAYS BEING CONSIDERED AS THAT LOW-DENSITY RECREATIONAL AREA. SINCE IT CURRENTLY -- INDUSTRIAL LAND USE AND THE INTENT NOT TO DO IT AS INDUSTRIAL, BUT DEVELOP THIS PARK AND MAKE IT THE LEAST DENSE AREA AS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE. LASTLY AND I BELIEVE -- OUR APOLOGIES THAT IT DIDN'T APPEAR THERE WERE CONVERSATION BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE -- AGAIN, DATING BACK FROM 2022. BUT ALSO I BELIEVE THERE WERE E-MAILS WITH THE MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE WAS COPIED AS EARLY -- AS RECENT AS THURSDAY AUGUST 22 OF THIS YEAR. SO JUST ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE FIRST READING. SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. I WILL LET BRIAN TALK TO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT INFORMATION. >> JUST WANT TO CLEAR THE RECORD ON TWO THINGS. I WAS ABLE TO FIND THE IMAGE ON MY PHONE BECAUSE, AGAIN, HE WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS BECAUSE I WASN'T SENT ANYTHING UNTIL A FEW HOURS AGO. BUT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE THAT. SO THIS IS THE CLEAR ZONE LINE RIGHT HERE. THIS IS Y'ALL'S PROPERTY. THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME, HE HAS IT SHOWN WAY OVER HERE. AND THAT IS WRONG. THIS IS A URS THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED OFF BY HIS SUPERIOR, ARE THE DIRECTOR OF THE SIXTH CIVIL ENGINEERING SQUAD RON RON. THIS IS ALREADY IN EVIDENCE AND WE HAVE GONE FORWARD BASED ON THIS. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION THIS ROAD DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY DEVELOPMENT. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO A PARK A ACHE AND A HALF AND WE ARE AT 40 SPACES. LET'S SAY YOU WANTED TO DO A TWO-ACRE PARK. LEAVE ROOM FOR PARKING, YOU NEED 53 SPACES. FORGET MY DEVELOPMENT AND ANYTHING I PROPOSE. WHAT THEY ARE TELLING IS THAT YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE THIS SPOT AS A PARK EVER. IF THEY DON'T EXCEPT THIS VERY MINIMAL USE, WHAT WOULD THEY ACCEPT? WE HAVE ALREADY SCALED THIS BACK. REFLECTED AT ONE POINT BATHROOMS AND APPEAR PAVILION, THE GENTLEMAN WAS CORRECT. HE IS GETTING BAD INFO. WE SHOWED A PAVILION AT ONE POINT. WE TOOK THE REST ROOMS. MAKE THIS AS DEMURE. PARKS AND REC WANTED A SWINGING BENCH. AND WE PUT A SWINGING BENCH IN THERE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE RISK THAT HE IS PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT. AS FAR AS PARKING. AGAIN, ONCE YOU LOOK AT THIS AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE PREMISE BY WHICH HE SHOULD BE MAKING HIS DECISION. THIS LINE IS IN THE WRONG PLACE. ONE OF THOSE DEALS THAT I AM HOPING HE WILL SAY, MY BAD. WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT. HAVE TO TAKE IT UP SEPARATELY BUT I CANDIDLY NOT SURE WHERE HE IS COMING FROM BECAUSE THIS IS THE INITIAL LINE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE HAVE HEARD DIFFERING TESTIMONY AND I WILL BE HONEST, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS TODAY. I AM JUST NOT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LINES ARE. I HOPED THAT -- I HOPED THAT -- I MEAN -- I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THIS, BUT I RECOMMEND JUST POSSIBLY SEEING WHAT WE CAN TO DO MOVE THIS TO A DIFFERENT TIME SO THIS CAN BE DISCUSSED AND DEALT WITH. I AM NOT A MAP PERSON. I AM HEARING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS FROM TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. WILL SHELBY, WHAT IS YOURS -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO CONTINUE IS ALWAYS IN ORDER IF THAT'S -- IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEA PLEASURE. AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SELECTED YOU MAY WANT TO HOLD THIS AND HAVE THE PARTIES TALK IN THE HALLWAY AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE OR YOU MOVE IT FORWARD. COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERN IS THIS DOESN'T SEEM SOMETHING YOU CAN HOP IN THE HALL AND FIGURE OUT. SO THAT WOULD BE SIMP -- SIMPLY BEFORE WE SPENDS ANY MORE TIME. THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION JUST TO CLEAR IT UP. I WANT MY VOTE TO BE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE AND SURE SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD HATE TO END UP VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE TOTAL AND COMPLETE FACTS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES STAFF -- THESE CLEAR ZONES. THEY HAVE OFFICIAL MAPS. DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO OFFICIAL MAPS FROM THE CLEAR ZONES. TO YOU GUYS HAVE THOSE? SOMEBODY HAS A COPY OF IT? I KNOW YOU ARE NOT STAFF, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT IS -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE DO HAVE A COPY OF THE 2023. THE AQs. APOLOGIES. I JUST WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE NOT YES, MA'AM, MISS FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: I HAVE THE AQ STUDY TRANSFORMED PRIOR TO THE 2023. AND OUR TEAM DOES HAVE THE 2023. AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW WHEN WE PUT AERIALS UP AT REZONING AND OTHER THINGS, THE GIS IS AS GOOD AS THE GIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT -- I AM HEARING MR. FUNK SAY IS 1 FEET. WE NEED TO VERIFY THAT. THAT IS A LARGE AMOUNT. I AM NOT GOING TO SAY -- BECAUSE 100 FEET IN OUR CITY CAN BE A WHOLE LOT OR TWO LOTS. I WOULD NEED TO CHECK INTO THAT. I WOULD SAY -- I THINK TONY IS ONLINE, BUT HE IS NOT HERE. SO I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION WITH PARKS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE DID WALK BACK WHAT THAT WAS AND WHAT -- AND WE DO HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES OF WHAT TRAIL HEADS ARE SO I CAN'T GO ON THE RECORD AND TELL YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I KNOW -- BUT CAN WE FIGURE IT OUT? YES, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AND THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING. DON'T SPEND TIME ANYTHING IT OUT DURING THIS COUNCIL MEETING AND THE PARTIES COME BACK WITH A BETTER AGREEMENT, INCLUDES EVERYONE, EVERY DEPARTMENT, EVERY GROUP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH IT IF THAT IS THE WAY WE WANT TO GO. I WILL SAY REGARDLESS OF HOW THIS TURNS OUT WHETHER WHAT THAT -- THAT IMAGINARY LINE IN SPACE IS, AGAIN, AN AIRPORT -- BASED ON 32 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS KIND OF THINGS AS WELL. AIRPORT IN AN URBAN AREA IS GIVE AND TAKE WHAT YOU HEARD OF THE WELCOME CENTER S CENTER FROM MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE. THAT IS A COMPROMISE. IN THE PERFECT WORLD, YOU WILL HAVE THAT PARCEL FURTHER NORTH OF THE ZONE. THEY WOULD HAVE BUILT THAT UP THERE. AND THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THAT AS A GIVE AND TAKE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AN URBAN AREA. REGARDLESS OF WHERE THAT LINE IS, I THINK THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT HAS A VERY LOW IMPACT ON AVIATION. NOT A POINT OF CONGREGATION. YOU ARE NOT BUILDING A HIGH DENSITY ENVIRONMENT THAT WOULD PUT LARGE PEOPLE AT RISK FOR FLIGHT OPERATION AT MacDILL AND SURROUNDING THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE AIR FORCE BASE, THIS IS NEGLIGIBLE. YOU THINK OF TAMPA INTERNATIONAL. TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE AT TAMPA INTERNATIONAL. EVERY AIRPORT HAS INTRINSIC RISKS AND DEVELOPMENTS AROUND AIRPORTS HAVE INTRINSIC. I CAN'T THINK OF A LOWER DENSITY USE. AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT THE AIRPORTS AND YOU HAVE -- I MEAN, ON DAVIS ISLAND, AIRPORT AND AIRPLANES GO OVER CHEMICAL AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS. IT IS WHAT WE DEAL WITH, A GIVE OR TAKE AND A BALANCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA AND CARLSON. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY AS A QUALIFIED STATEMENT WITH THE INFORMATION I HAVE THAT. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. BUT MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT IS, WOULD A WEEK OR TWO OR WHATEVER TIME, WILL THAT IN ANY WAY PREJUDICE YOUR CLIENT IN ANY WAY? I ASK THAT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THIS APPEARS TO HAVE COME LAST MINUTE. AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, ETC. BUT MY QUESTION IS, WOULD ONE OR TWO WEEKS PREJUDICE YOU IN ANY WAY? >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK WE WOULD BE DEFINITELY AGREEABLE TO A CONTINUANCE TO POTENTIALLY I THINK TO OCTOBER 3 -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 3 AND 17. OCTOBER 17 IS LESS BUSY. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. >> WE WILL TRY FOR THE 3rd GIVEN -- WE WERE ALL READY FOR TODAY IF THAT AT ALL POSSIBLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH TIME THAT ALL PARTIES CAN MEET AND DISCUSS YOU, THE BASE, THE CITY, AND IF COUNCIL WOULD AGREE TO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO THE TAKE A UNTIL I SPEAK -- GET MR. CARLSON. SO OCTOBER 3 WOULD BE A DATE. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE LAST THING. WILL RODRIGUEZ WHEN HE SPOKE, HE TALKED OF GETTING THE GENERAL TO SIGN OFF AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AIR FORCE TO AIR FORCE. I WONDER -- NOT TO ANSWER NOW, BUT I WONDER THROUGH THIS PROCESS CAN YOU FIND ANY WAY TO GET APPROVAL OR ANY OR ALL PART OF THIS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEF DEFENSE. FOR EXAMPLE, WE -- THE PART THAT WE CAN CONTROL, WHICH IS TWO-THIRDS OF WHAT IS IN THIS FILING IS THE PARK. AND SO, IF WE JUST PUT AS MR. RODRIGUEZ SAID PUT A PATH AND THEY WILL NOT OBJECT TO IT FOR THE VERY LEAST. ANY MECHANISM OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE OR THE AIR FORCE WHERE THEY SAY WE APPROVE THIS WITH THE PARAMETERS AND ONLY SMALL PART OF THE PARKING LOT TO DEAL WITH. IF WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING FOR THE PARK, THAT WOULD GET US MOST OF THE WAY TOWARD GETTING SOME KIND OF APPROVAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM? >> SOMETHING WE WILL DEFINITELY TALK WITH THEM ABOUT DURING THIS TIME. AND DEFINITELY CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE ITEM 61 WITH 47 TO OCTOBER 3 AT 10:30. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED. TIME CERTAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TIME CERTAIN, 10:30. WANT TO GET PUBLIC COMMENT JUST ON THE CONTINUANCE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IT DEPENDS. YOU DID NOT OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WITH ALL THESE ISSUES YOU WANT TO HAVE IT CONTINUED AND TAKE UP PUBLIC COMMENT. BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: HE WILL SAY ONLY ON THE CONTINUANCE ITSELF. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS POYNOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME. >> STEPHANIE POYNOR. WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE NOTIFIED WE GOT THIS NONDESCRIPT LETTER. EVERYBODY HERE TODAY, DEVELOPER, LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, THE BASE. THEY ARE ALL FRUSTRATED. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THERE WAS NO GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE SENT. TONY IS IT STANDING HERE TODAY -- I DIDN'T KNOW TONY WAS COMING TODAY. I HAD NO IDEA THEY HAD AN OBJECTION. YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM KIND OF SWITZERLAND. WE CAN HAVE MR. KRAMER AND PUT TREES ON THAT LOT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PLAN. I WILL POINT OUT IN THE FIVE YEARS COMING HERE, THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN MacDILL COME AND SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT WE WILL NOT BE HAVING THIS PROBLEM TODAY IF LEGAL REQUIREMENT WASN'T REQUIRED TO GET INTO BED WITH DEVELOPERS .I AM NOT BEING NEGATIVE ABOUT IT, BUT I AM TELLING YOU THE SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS. IF WE CONTINUE IT, WE CONTINUE IT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONTINUANCE, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM OF THE LACK OF NOTIFICATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND YOU GUYS ASKED THEM TO MEET WITH US LAST TIME. AND THEY DID IT. THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE ASKED TO DO. DEVELOPERS HAVE DONE THAT. THE LAND USE DEPARTMENT DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS IS FLAWED BECAUSE THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS ALLOWED TO GO MAKE DEALS AND NOT TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO TURN IT INTO THE CLERK'S OFFICE UNTIL EIGHT DAYS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CRAP AND YOU AND ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION. ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE RECORD ANNOUNCE THE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE 61 WITH 47 TO OCTOBER 3, 10:30 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW. >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOCATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 15 E. KENNEDY THIRD FLOOR TAMPA FLORIDA, 33062. UNITED STATES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: PART OF THE MOTION WITH A TIME CERTAIN UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WILL STOP WHERE YOU ARE TO TAKE UP THAT ITEM AT 10:30, IS THAT CORRECT, MAKER OF THE MOTION? >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD WITH YOU. WE HAVE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH. ATU. PUBLIC COMMENT. SBA. A HARD STOP AT 10:30 FOR THIS ITEM. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA. ANY OPPOSED. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NAY. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON AND CLENDENIN VOTING NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL SEE YOU OCTOBER 107 AT 150:30. TIME CERTAIN. STATED FOR 61 AND 47 IN THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 62 YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. EMMA GRAY, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. ADOPTION OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC YBOR TAMPA TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT, EXCUSE ME. SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON AUGUST 23. AND THE -- LET'S SEE, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HOTEL MOTEL ASSOCIATION WHO IS REPRESENTED BY DAVID SMITH WHO IS HERE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SEND OUT BOTH A PUBLISHED NOTICE AND A MAILED NOTICE. AND SO NOW WE ARE HERE FOR THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE ROLE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE BOTH AVAILABLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: WHENEVER GRAY ROBINSON IS INVOLVED. I JUST -- I KNOW IT IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT I SAY I AM ON, OF COURSE, THE HART BOARD AND GRAY ROBINSON IS OUR ATTORNEY. AND WILL SMITH IS SOMETIMES ACTS AS COUNSEL. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLOSURE. I KNOW IT IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT JUST -- JUST FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AS WELL. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. BOTH MEMBERS OF THE HART BOARD. ALL RIGHT. GENTLEMEN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> GOOD MORNING, DAVID SMITH. 101 EAST KENNEDY. BASICALLY WE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU PASSED BEFORE. IT WILL NOT BE BEFORE YOU TODAY IF IT WEREN'T THAT WE ADDED PROPERTIES. AND THESE PROPERTIES HAD TO RECEIVE NOTICE. IT IS A VOLUNTARY GROUP. THEY FORMED TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND THERE IS NO REAL OPPOSITION TO IT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MR. MORRISON. >> NOTHING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK FOR 62? I SEE NO ONE. WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION FROM 62 FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. PANY OPP? NOW CAN WE READ THE -- IT IS UNANIMOUS. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUB PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. RESOLUTION MUST BE ADOPTED DURING THE YOU CAN HIS HEARING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM NUMBER 63. THIS IS A -- AN ALLEY VACATING. >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS,. FILE NUMBER VAC 24-04. APPLICANT IS ANTONIO GOMEZ. PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 208 VIRGINIA PARK AVENUE. PROPOSED REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY NORTH OF VIRGINIA PARK, SOUTH OF SELMA AVENUE, EAST OF FLORIDA AVENUE, AND WEST OF SWAUNNEE AVENUE. THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED FEBRUARY, 2024. APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TRASH DUMPING. RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION FLAT. 3206 SQUARE SQUARE FEET. VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW AND THE PROPERTY IN RED. YOU WILL NOTICE THIS IS A T-SHAPED ALLEY IN THE BLOCK FROM SELMA TO VIRGINIA PARK. NORTH AND SOUTH ALLEY THAT IS STILL CURRENTLY OPEN. WHERE THE ALLEYWAY WAS CREATED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE BUFFALO AVENUE ON THE MAP, BACK IN THE DAY. >> IMAGE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AT VIRGINIA PARK AVENUE. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PRESIDENT LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM THE NORTH AND SOUTH SECTION OF THE ALLEYWAY. THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM SWAUNNEE AVENUE. STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST. TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND URBAN DECLINE. SPECIAL CONTINUES CHAPTER 27 AND IMPROVEMENT OF PLACE OF TREES IN THE AN AREA. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL BE AIL AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS? NO? ALL RIGHT. THE APPLICANT COME ON UP. MR. GOMEZ. YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >>. >>>. >> GOOD MORNING, I AM THE APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF MY UNCLE ANTONIO GOMES. WE ARE BASICALLY HERE TO REQUEST THE VACATING OF THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND THE HOUSE. THE REASON IS THE HOMELESSNESS BACK THERE AND TRASH PILE-UP. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALLEY WAY, NO WAY TO GET IN ON THE FLORIDA AVE SIDE OF THINGS. BUILDING THERE. ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE IS A UTILITY POLE. AND I BELIEVE THE ALLEYWAY IS 10 FEET. WE BELIEVE IF WE VACATE IT AND GIVE FIVE FEET TO OURSELVES AND FIVE FEET TO OUR NEIGHBORS, THAT WILL PLACELY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BACK THERE AND THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT PILES UP. I BELIEVE THE NEXT BLOCK OVER TO THE EAST, THE 300 BLOCK HAD THE SAME ISSUE SOME TIME AGO AND THEY WERE ABLE TO VACATE THEIRS AND GET RID OF THE ISSUE THEY WERE HAVING. SOME THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE HERE OUTSIDE OF ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, MATTHEW JORDAN. >> MATTHEW JORDAN, LANDOWNER OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE VALLEY. DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST AND FURTHER EMPHASIZE THE LAND USE -- SORRY -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE -- YOU ARE TECHNICALLY -- LET'S START OVER. YOU ARE PART OF PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU ARE NOT THE APPLICANT. ANYTHING MORE TO ADD AND THEN WE WILL GO TO HIM? DO YOU GUYS WANT TO SAY ANYT ANYTHING? >> HE JUST ADDED YOU KNOW HE HAS GRANDKID THAT OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO PLAY IN THE BACK YARD, AND SOMETIMES IT IS BEST THAT THEY STAY IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE HANGING OUT BACK THERE. AND YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST NOT IDEAL FOR THE GRANDKIDS BASICALLY. >> IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WE CAN NOT TELL THEM TO LEAVE. >> IT BELONGS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, SO I GUESS LEGALLY WE CAN'T TELL THEM TO LEAVE. BUT -- SORRY ABOUT THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO PROBLEM. WE JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS. >> NO PROBLEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND HERE. >> MY NAME IS MATTHEW JORDAN AND TO EMPHASIZE AS WELL THE REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY. I KNOW THE LAND USE COMMITTEE DENIED OR SUGGEST THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST, BUT I WILL ENCOURAGE SOMEONE TO MAYBE GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE ALLEY. PICTURES WERE PROVIDED, BUT IT IS QUITE CLEAR THERE IS NO PUBLIC BENEFIT AT ALL IN THE WAY IT STANDS. ONE SIDE OF THE ALLEY IS COMPLETELY BLOCKED. THERE IS A STRUCTURE FROM A LAND OWN THEIR IS NOT PRESENT TODAY THAT IS ACTUALLY BLOCKING THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE ALLEY. LIKE HE MENTIONED THIS -- THE ADJACENT ALLEYWAY WITH THE CLUSTER OF HOUSES NEXT TO OURS IS VACATED. DEFINITELY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF THE ALLEYWAY, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE OWNERS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, THERE IS NO BENEFIT BEING HAD AS FAR AS HAVING RIGHT-OF-WAY ACCESS TO VEHICLES. IN ADDITION, WTHE INTEREST OF TE LANDOWNER. AND SETBACKS ARE AN ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS WHERE WE ARE LOOK TO INVEST FURTHER IN INNER CITY HOUSING, ADU AND WE ARE LOOKING TO BENEFIT THE PROPERTY LINES THAT YOU OWN. AND THE ALLEYWAY IS REQUIRING US TO HAVE THAT BE ADDITIONAL BUFFER OF THE SETBACK. THREE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THE MAIN REASON WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO VACATE THE ALLEYWAY FOR OWNERS SURROUNDING THE UNUSABLE ENDS OF IT CAN BENEFIT AND TAKE USE OF THAT SPACE SO WE CAN PUT AN ADU ON THE PROPERTY AND STILL HAVE THAT KIND OF THREE-FOOT SETBACK. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PROPOSE IS INITIAL OWNERSHIP OF THAT LAND AS FAR AS BOTH SIDES OF THE ALLEY. THE NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER SIDE MEANING THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TIME PROVE IF THEY WANT THAT THREE FEET. MISS LYNN -- DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO. THE IDEA IS NOT TO REALLY ASSUME THE LAND OF THE ALLEY WAY BUT MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE LAND WE ALREADY OWN AND SETBACK IS A BIG ISSUE. THE LETTER FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT SAID THEY WILL BE WILLING TO ENFORCE SOME OF THE CODES SO THE OWNERS AND THE BUSINESSES ON THE EAST SIDE BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE ALLEY MAYBE WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO CORRECT THAT. BUT THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME. >> I AM DONALD MUSCLEMAN AND HERE REPRESENTING MY PARENTS WHO OWN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS ON THE CORNER THAT WERE BASICALLY SHOWN BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE ALLEY FROM THERE. JUST TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID. IT HAS JUST BEEN A PROBLEM OVER THE YEARS WITH TRASH BEING DUMPED IN THE AREA. AND HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE. AND I REALLY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ACCESS -- I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING GOING DOWN THAT ALLEY. WE DO HAVE A SEWER GOING THROUGH THE ALLEY THAT IS NORTH-SOUTH BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. SO JUST WANT TO STATE SUPPORT FOR CLOSING THE ALLEY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. YOU HAD YOUR MIC ON? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. ANY -- ANY REBUTTAL? ANYTHING ELSE? NO? IF NOT, A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. WAIT, MR. SAMONS. >>ROSS SAMONS: UP APOLOGIZE, ROSS SAMONS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT JONATHAN SCOTT IS ONLINE FOR TRANSPORTATION IF HE WANTS TO SPEAK TO HIS OBJECTION, HE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JONATHAN SCOTT, ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD AT THIS TIME? YOU MIGHT BE MUTED. >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THERE WE GO. HELLO, JONATHAN SCOTT WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT. OUR OBJECTIONS WERE THERE IS A NEWLY CREATED OVERLAY IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHICH -- WHICH ENCOURAGES THE USE OF ALLEYS. THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON FOR OUR OBJECTION. AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE CITY UTILITIES IN THE ALLEY TOO. A WASTEWATER LINE. I THINK THEY ARE REQUESTING EASEMENT. AND URBAN DESIGN HAD THE SAME OBJECTION THAT MOBILITY HAS. THE -- JUST -- TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. YOU KNOW THESE -- THESE ARE ISSUES. AND THE VACATING OF THE ALLEY WILL CREATE, YOU KNOW, NEW PROPERTY LINES AND SO FORTH. AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE -- IT CAN BE -- WITH THE NEW OVERLAY AND ALL THAT, IT WILL BE TOUGHER TO. YOU CAN'T ACCESS THROUGH THE ALLEY ANYMORE. KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO ADD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEAR THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND I GET THEIR INTEREST IN THIS; HOWEVER, WE MAKE THESE LAND USE DECISIONS. NOT ABOUT -- WE ARE ALL ON THIS EARTH FOR JUST A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN WE ARE DUST. AND THE CITY -- THE CITY LIVES ON. AND THESE LAND USES AND HOW WE DEVELOP THE CITY OF TAMPA IS HOPEFULLY IN PERPETUITY. ONCE WE GIVE UP OUR ALLEYS, THEY ARE GONE FOREVER. AS YOU HEARD FROM OUR STAFF, WE HAVE ADOPTED AN OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR THIS PAIR I CAN'T TO DEVELOP FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS AREA. AND ALLEYS ARE VERY MUCH MONDAY INTEGRAL PART OF A. WHILE I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY WE ARE ENFORCING THE RULES AS FAR AS TRASH ISSUE ARE BUT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY GERMANE TO THE ISSUE OF A VACATION AND THE FACT THERE MAY BE ISSUES WITH ONE PROPERTY OWNER HAVING CREATING AN OBSTACLE. A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED. BUT, AGAIN, AN OVERLAY DISTRICT OF FUTURE LAND USE HOW THE CITY WILL DEVELOP AND LOOK OVER THE NEXT 25, 50, 100 YEARS. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT STRONGLY. UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THE VACATION. BUT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN MIRANDA. >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE. I MEAN WE JUST PASSED THIS TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY NOT THAT LONG AGO. WE SEED A LETTER FROM THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THAT PAUSE OF THIS OF THE NEW TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY THAT WAS DONE. THIS IS THE URBAN CORE, WHERE WE ARE WORKING TO GET CARS OFF OF STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND INTO THE ALLEYWAYS. WE DO NOT HAVE ALLEYWAYS IN A LOT OF THE CITY. I WAS FORMALLY A TRUSTEE WITH OLD SELL HOME IN HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE HAD THE EXACT SAME ISSUE. WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAINTAIN OUR ALLEYS. ONE THINGS I WILL ENCOURAGE STAFF TO DO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE WE GET CODE COMPLIANCE. I SAW A STRUCTURE IN THAT PHOTO THAT IS COMPLETELY ILLEGAL. YOU CAN NOT FENCE OFF AN ALLEY. SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE AND I AM SURPRISED THAT -- AND HOPEFULLY THEY TURNED THAT IN WHEN THEY TOOK THOSE PHOTOS. I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION WHEN MR. MIRANDA IS FINISHED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM FINE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY CLOSED THE HEARING. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE VAC 24-04 FOR AN APPLICATION BY ANTONIO GOMES TO VACATE THE EAST VALLEY NORTH OF VIRGINIA PARK STREET, NORTH OF VIRGINIA PARK AVENUE, SOUTH OF SELMA AVENUE AND EAST OF FLORIDA AVENUE AND WEST OF SUWANNEE AVENUE MAINLY BECAUSE ALLEYS ARE A VITAL PART OF THE TAMPA URBAN CORE. AND THE JUST PASSED TAMPA HEIGHTS OVERLAY REALLY SIGNIFIES OR ENCOURAGES THE USE OF ALLEYS. AND STAFF. STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS NOT A GOOD IDEA AND ADDITIONALLY -- I WILL STOP THERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED FOR THE CITY TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN IT SAYS IN THE FUTURE. AT LEAST PUT IT WITHIN 25 YEARS, 50 YEARS OR 5,000 YEARS. THE FUTURE MAY NOT GET THERE. WHEN THEY SAY IT WILL BE DONE. HOW FAR COME IT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE? I AM JUST -- I WANT TO BE MORE DIRECT WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS LIKE THIS THAT I GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED. WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. BUT NEVER DO THEY TELL YOU WHEN OR HOW OR HOW IT WILL BE DONE. I NEED TO GET SOMETHING DOWN JUST LIKE I NEED IT DONE IN THE ENVIRONMENT. TO SIT HERE AND JUST LISTEN IS ONE THING. BUT WHEN A CITY MAKES A PRESENTATION AND SAYS IN THE FUTURE, THAT CAN BE 5,000 -- I DON'T THINK NONE OF US WILL BE HERE. MAYBE YOU, MR. CLENDENIN. WE CAN'T JUST SAY SOMETHING AND SAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY. THAT IS WONDERFUL. BUT I GOT TO KNOW WHEN. AT THIS TIME WE HAVE ITEM 64 TO BE TAKEN WITH 75. AND PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD MORNING, ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY. 75 WAS SIMPLY THE MOTION ASKING ME TO BRING FORTH IN RESOLUTION WHICH IS ITEM 64. AS YOU WILL RECALL, THIS RELATES TO A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION THAT IS PRESENTLY BY STATUTE PROVIDED FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE 80 TO 120% AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME BRACKET THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR GAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THE OPTION TO OPT OUT OF PROVIDING PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR PROPERTIES IN THAT BRACKET. THIS IS THE BRACKET THAT IN THE PAST WAS REFERRED TO AS THE MISSING MIDDLE. 80% AND BELOW IS WHAT MOST OF US THINK OF AS THE MOST NECESSARY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS OVER TIME STUDIES HAVE SHOWN IN SOME AREAS, THERE IS ADEQUATE HOUSING IN THE 80% TO 120% RANGE AND SOME OF THE MARKET RATES HAVE ADJUSTED TO THE 80% TO 120% IS, IN FACT, MARKET RATE WHICH IS WHY THE LEGISLATURE HAS NOW GIVEN CERTAIN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT OF PROVIDING PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEED TO INCENTIVIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THAT PARTICULAR RATE OR RANGE. SO AS I PREVIOUSLY TOLD YOU, PASCO COUNTY HAS ALREADY OPTED OUT. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS ALREADY OPTED OUT. AND ORLANDO, SEVERAL OF -- ORANGE COUNTY AND ORLANDO. MOST OF THE JUROR JURISDICTIONS THAT CAN ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ABILITY TO OPT OUT. THE SHIMBERG CENTER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HAS TO HAVE FOUND THERE IS AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IN THAT RANGE. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OF WHICH TAMPA IS LOCATED IDENTIFIED AS THE SHIMBERG CENTER AS HAVING ADEQUATE HOUSING IN THAT RANGE. FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I HAVE PREPARED THE RESOLUTION IF YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD TODAY, TO BE ADOPT BY TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCIL AND WHAT IT MEANS, THE CITY WILL NOT PROVIDE A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION OF 75% FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPED IN THAT 80% TO 120% AMI RANGE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I TRULY APPRECIATE IT. WE NEED TO INCENTIVIZE HOUSING IN THE AREAS WE REALLY NEED IT. I APPRECIATE THE LEGISLATURE ALLOWING USES TO DO THIS OPT OUT. THANK YOU SO.MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON ON GETTING THIS DONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO THE SAME THING THAT MISS HURTAK SAID. I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND CNTINUING TO MAKE THE CITY A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND THIS WILL NOT HELP EVERYBODY OUT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT NEED AND NOT ENOUGH HOUSING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: FOR THE RECORD, MISS POYNOR WHO IS COMING UP WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE MARKET RATES AND THE 80% TO 120% WAS STARTING TO OVERLAP. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> THANK YOU, ANDREA. I AM STEPHANIE POYNOR AND THING IS A GREAT IDEA. THE NUMBERS SHOW WE NEED LOWER INCOME HOUSING AND PLEASE REMEMBER WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING LOW-INCOME HOUSING IN THE EVACUATION ZONE A, BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING THOSE FOLKS AT RISK. AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. ESPECIALLY WHEN I GOT TWO DEVELOPERS WHO ONLY WANTON DO 120% WITHIN LESS THAN A MILE FROM MY HOUSE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AND BOTH REALLY CRAPPY PLANS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE? A MOTION TO CLOSE. A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 64 AND 65. -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO MOVE 64 AND SECONDED BY MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CLENDENIN CLEAN BECAUSE IT IS TEXT, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST READ IT BECAUSE TWO-THIRDS. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YES? >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST WONDERING WE HAVE 20 MINUTES BEFORE LUNCH AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE OUR WASTE ENERGY PEOPLE HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO THAT AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. SHOULD THIS GO UP 12:00, FINISH THEM UP OR WILL YOU END DO YOU THINK WITHIN 20 MINUTES? >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS JUST A REPORT ON THE STATUS COUNTY McKAY BAY WASTE ENERGY FACILITY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS VERY QUICK AND LARRY WASHINGTON IS HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T MAKE LARRY COME BACK. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION, THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE LUNCH RECESS AT NOON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE GET DONE EARLIER THAN THIS, WE WILL BREAK. BECAUSE WE HAD THAT 1:30 HEARING THAT IS TRICKY. YES, SIR, MR. BAIRD. >>Darren: -- >>BRAD BAIRD: DO YOU WANT TO HEAR 71? BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE. HERE ON 71 ON THE McKAY BAY WASTE ENERGY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. WE REFERRED TO IT IN SHORT AS THE WASTE ENERGY RETROFIT PROJECT. WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE TEAM, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER. AND WITH THAT, IF WE CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION. AND I WILL GET GOING. BEFORE I LEAVE THE FIRST SLIDE. THAT IS A PICTURE OF THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT BEFORE THE RETROFIT. AND THIS A PICTURE OF THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT AFTER THE RETROFIT. YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES THERE. THIS PROJECT IS VERY NEAR TO BEING SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. AND WE -- WE ARE NOW PRIMARILY IN THE PUNCH LIST PHASE. PLANT IS FULLY OPERATIONAL. WE HAVE ISSUED THE CONTRACTOR LETTER DESCRIBING THE REMAINING ITEMS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE WE ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. SO THERE IS ARREST OF THE SUB PROJECTS. THE TURBIN GENERATOR REFURBISHMENT IS A MAIN DRIVER UPGRADE OF FACILITY CONTROLS, NATURAL GAS BURNERS AND PIPING, COOLING TOWER, REPLACEMENT, MAIN CONDENSER AND CIRCULATING WATER SYSTEM, EXPELLER, VIBRATE, PUG MILLS, REFUGE CRANES, ASH BUILDING, REPAIR SCALPEL BUILDING, DUST MASTER SCREENS AND ASH EQUIPMENT. AND THEN FINALLY STACK FLUES REPLACEMENT. I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SUB PROJECTS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE TURBIN END OF THE TURBIN GENERATOR WHAT A REFURBISHED TURBIN LOOKS LIKE BEFORE WE CLOSE IT UP WITH THE CASING IN THE TOP DIAGRAMS. AS YOU RECALL, WE HAVE GONE OVER NINE YEARS FROM THE LAST REFURBISHMENT FROM THIS TURBIN GENERATOR. REFURBISHED EVERY FIVE YEARS. SO THIS WAS NUMBER ONE DRIVERS I SAID A MINUTE AGO. WE -- WHEN WE OPENED IT UP, WEST STEAM DAMAGE. BUT IT WAS IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER SHAPE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE IN AND IT WAS REPAIRABLE WHICH IS VERY GOOD NEWS. THE NEXT PROJECT OUR MAIN CONTROL SYSTEM WAS GROSSLY OUT-OF-DATE. AND I THINK SOME OF YOU TOURED THE FACILITY AND SOME OF YOU -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT LOOKED LIKE A "STAR WARS". >> NO, IT WAS WORSE. THAT HAS ALL BEEN UPGREAT GRADED. MONITORS ON THE LEFT AND THE MAIN CONTROL SERVERS ON THE RIGHT. THE NEXT PROJECT IS FOUR NATURAL GAS BURNERS AND ASSOCIATED PIPING THAT IS ALL BRAND-NEW. THEY ARE USED TO START UP THE IF YOU WERE NANCES AND FOR HEAT BOOST ESPECIALLY WHEN THE GARBAGE IS WET LIKE IT HAS BEEN RECENTLY. WE NEED TO KEEP IT BURNING AND KEEP IT HOT TO PRODUCE STEAM. THE NEXT ONE IS COOLING TOWER REPLACEMENT. THIS IS ONE WHERE THE SCOPE DIDN'T CHANGE. WE KNEW WE HAD TO REPLACE THE COOLING TOWER FROM THE GET-GO. THE OLD COOLING TOWER ON THE LEFT. THE NEW COOLING TOWER ON THE RIGHT. THE OLD ONE HAD WOODEN SLATS THAT HAD TO BE REPLACED ON A CONTINUAL BASIS AND IT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU CLIMBED UP ON THE TOWER BUT PRETTY EVIDENT IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE NEW COOLING TOWER HAS FIBERGLASS SLATS AND SLIGHTLY MORE EFFICIENT. I TONIGHT HAVE A PICTURE OF THE MAIN CONDENSER FOR YOU. BUT THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE CIRCULATING WATER SYSTEM. THE MAIN CONDENSER CONDENSES STEAM TO WATER AND TO SEND BACK TO THE BOILERS -- IMMEDIATELY BACK TO THE BOILERS. THEN THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS A NEW CIRCULATING WATER SYSTEM PUMP. ON THE RIGHT IS THE CIRCULATING WATER PIPING IN LIGHT GREEN. THE CIRCULATING WATER IS USED TO COOL THE STEAM AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT IS CIRCULATED BACK THROUGH THE COOLING TOWER. WE HAD TO BUILD A RATHER RO ROBUST TRUSS SYSTEM THAT WAS NOT PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING TO SUPPORT THE UP-SIZED PIPING WE NEEDED FOR THE NEW COOLING TOWER. AND THIS NEXT ONE IS TO INSTALL FOUR NEW EXPELLERS. VIBRATORY CONVEYORS AND NEW PUG MILLS FOR THE FLY ASH. PRESIDENT EXPELLER IS A BRICK RED UNIT THERE ON RIGHT. ONE OF THE EXPELLERS. AND ONE OF THE NEW VIBRATORY CONVEYORS PLANTED BLUE IS BELOW THE EXPELLER THERE. AND THAT IS THE CONVEYOR ON THE RIGHT. THE EXPELLERS ARE USED TO EXPEL METALS AND BOTTLE ASH. WE INSTALLED TWO NEW REFUSE CRANES FOR LIFTING THE GARBAGE INTO THE HOPPERS THAT FEED THE FUR FURNACES. THEN -- ORIGINALLY WE HAD PLANNED TO REPAIR THE EXISTING ASH BUILDING BUT UPON FULL INSPECTION FROM THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE BUILDING WAS BEYOND REPAIR AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. AND COLLECTIVELY WE DETERMINED THAT IT WAS NECESSARY TO REPLACE THE BUILDING. THE OLD ASH BUILDING IS ON THE LEFT. THE NEW ONE IS ON THE RIGHT. AND I WANT TO READ TO YOU THE FIRST TASK REQUIRED OF THE DESIGN BUILDER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE. DESIGN-BUILD SERVICES SHALL INCLUDE BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO SURVEY AND VERIFICATION OF ALL EXISTING CONDITIONS INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE, UTILITY COORDINATION. REGULATORY PERMIT. PERMITTING AND ULTIMATE CONSTRUCTION OF ALL SITE AMENITIES NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE NEEDED UPGRADES, REPAIRS AND OR REPLACEMENTS IN EQUIPMENT BUILDINGS AND SITE INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO AND THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF WHY WE HAVE SOME SCOPE CHANGES OF SOME OF THESE SUB PROJECTS. AND THEN WE HAVE TO REPAIR THE SCALPER BUILDING WHICH WAS IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE TO REPAIR WHICH, UNLIKE THE ASH BUILDING, IT WAS REPAIRABLE. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO REPLACE IT. I HAD SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL REPAIRS, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. THEN, OF COURSE, YOU SEE THE NEW DUST MASTER ON THE RIGHT. AND THE NEW SCREENS AND FLY ASH HOPPER NOTICE LEFT PICTURE. AND THEN FINALLY -- I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE AN INTERESTING SUB PROJECT. IT WAS NECESSARY TO REPLACE THE BOTTOM 30 FEET OF THE FOUR FLUES INSIDE THE STACK. THAT STACK YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAS FOUR STEEL TUBES, FULL, OR FLUES INSIDE THE STACK. ON THE RIGHT IS THE INSIDE OF THE BOTTOM OF THE STACK AFTER IT WAS COMPLETED. SPACE IS VERY TIGHT. AND REPLACEMENT OF THE FLUES HAD TO BE CAREFULLY PLANNED. VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY DID THAT. EACH FLUE HAD FIVE, SIX-FOOT SECTIONS OF STEEL CASINGS THAT HAD TO BE WELDED IN PLACE. NEXT WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROJECT TIMELINE. IN OCTOBER 2023, WE STARTED SOME FREE OUTAGE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE -- IN LATE JANUARY, WE STARTED WASTE DIVERSIONS TO TRY TO EMPTY THE PIT TO GET IT READY TO INSTALL THE CRANES. AND -- AND THEN FEBRUARY 15 WAS THE INITIAL PART OUTAGE AND SHUT DOWN THE FACILITY. THEN YOU MIGHT RECALL ON OUR LAST BRIEFING, WE TALKED ABOUT REDUCING IT THE EARLY MORNING AND LATE EVENING SCALE HOUSE HOURS A APPROVE LOGISTICS. AND VERY PLEASED TO REPORT NO DELAYS IN COLLECTIONS. AND HIS TEAM. TRIBUTE TO LARRY - THEY REALLY DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT. BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE SOME DELAYS. I REPORTED THAT TO YOU LAST TIME. JUNE 18, WAS A COMPLETION OF THE OUT AND AND WE STARTED COMMISSION. AND IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, THE COMMISSION TOOK A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT. AND MY NEXT SLIDE, I WILL GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE REASONS. WE -- DURING THE COMMISSION PERIOD, WE HAVE A FEW DAY OF DIVERTING. A FEW DAYS OF NO DIVERTING AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, I GUESS. FINALLY, WE ARE -- OH, I AM SORRY, AUGUST 30, WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING -- THE PLANT HAS BEEN OPERATING IN FULL EVER SINCE AUGUST 30. AND WE NEED A WAY TO DIVERT WASTE; HOWEVER, IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RAINS AND THIS HAS NOTHING DO WITH THE CONTRACT. WE MAY HAVE DIVERT WASTE AGAIN. ONLY IF WE HAVE THE RAINS THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THEN TWO YEARS OUT, WE HAVE A PLANNED OUTAGE. THAT WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF SEVEN TO TEN DAYS. DEPENDING ON THE DIFFICULTY TO REPLACE SIX TRANSFORMERS AND A MAIN TRANSFORMER AND AUXILIARY TRANSFORM 80 VOLT TRANSFORMER. ELECTRICAL AND INSTRUMENTATION EQUIPMENT IS THE LONGEST LEAD TIME OF ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS. THESE TRANSFORMERS ARE AT LEAST TWO YEARS OUT. BUT THE PLANNED OUTAGE AND INSTALLATION IS SOMETIME IN THE FALL OF 2026. SO I AM TRYING TO ANSWER COUNCILWOMAN'S QUESTIONS. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S QUESTIONS, SOME OF THEM, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET TO ALL OF THEM IN THIS PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE. SO SOME -- THESE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF DELAYS DURING THE COMMISSION. THE FIRST ONE ELECTRICAL WIRING AND CONTROL ISSUES. I WILL GIVE YOU THREE EXAMPLES. WE HAVE SOME GAS BURNERS, TUNING AND PROGRAMMING ISSUES. WE HAD CONTROL VALVE ISSUES. DUMP SETTINGS. JUST TO NAME THREE OF THEM. THE NEXT ONE, WE HAD HIGH VOLTAGE COMING. THIS TO OUR 4106 TRANSFORMER WHICH IS OUR AUXILIARY TRANSFORMER. THE VOLUMITAGE WAS HIGH. IT WAS HIGHER AND PUT OUR EQUIPMENT OUT OF SPEC. WHICH COULD POSSIBLY PUT IT OUT OF WARRANTY. THIS IS NOT ON THE CONTRACTOR. THIS IS EXISTING EQUIPMENT. SO WE -- WE ACTUALLY CALLED -- I CALLED THE CEO OF TECO AND HE PUT TOGETHER A CREW FOR US BECAUSE THEY HAD TO CHANGE THE TAP SETTING ON THIS TRANSFORMER. SOMETHING WE DON'T DO AND THE CONTRACTOR DOESN'T DO AT ALL REALLY. BUT CERTAINLY NOT OUR REGULAR BASIS AND THEY CAME IN AND THAT CREW SPENT ALMOST LIKE 3/4 OF A DAY AND THEY GOT IT DONE. WE WERE A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE 39-YEAR-OLD TRANSFORMER. BUT IT WENT OFF WITHOUT YOU A HITCH. WE WERE PRETTY HAPPY OF THAT. AND MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. OIL LEAK ON THE TURBIN GENERATOR WE HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN AND FIX THAT. TRIP SETTINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED ON SEVERAL PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE TRIPPING OUT. CRANE GRAPPLE ISSUES THAT WE ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO HAVE AND IT WAS OPERATE TOO SLOWLY. WE WILL -- WE ARE USING ON ONE OF THEM. WE ARE USING THE OLD ONE UNTIL THE MANUFACTURER FIX IT IS. IT IS UNDER WARRANTY. THE PIPING REPAIRS ON THE EXPELLERS. AND THIS IS JUST TO NAME A FEW. I JUST PICKED OUT A FEW OF THE TURBIN GENERATOR SYNCHRONIZATION ISSUE. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE VERY WET GARBAGE FOR -- IN CERTAIN TIMES IN JULY AND AUGUST. SO GO THROUGH SOME OF FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT. ON THE LEFT IS A REMINDER OF THE GMPs AND WHAT THEY WERE FOR. GMP WAS FOR EARLY PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT. THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED FOR $17 MILLION. THAT WAS PAID OUT OF PAY GO OR CASH. GMP 2 AND 3 TOTALED $82.9 MIL MILLION. THOSE WERE BOTH COVERED BY FINANCING. APPROVED BY YOU, I BELIEVE, LAST MONTH, I THINK. JUST A REMINDER THAT SOLID WASTE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND FROM THE SENATE, THE UTILITY FEES FROM SOLID WASTE. SO BOTTOM LINE IS, WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER THE GPM BUDGET OF ALMOST $100 MILLION. THEN I WILL GO THROUGH THE COST IMPACTS TO THE DEPARTMENT. WE HAD HAULING COST ON A FULL DIVERSION DAY. FULL I DID VERSION DAY, $107,000. OUR LOSS -- THIS IS ON AVERAGE CAN GO UP AND DOWN AND ON DAYS WHERE WE DIVERT LESS THEN FULL -- OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN $107,000. LOST ELECTRICAL REVIEW IS ABOUT $4 ,000 A DAY FOR SELLING THAT POWER TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC. AND THEN WITH ALL THAT COMPLICATED. IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS PROJECT,00 POWER TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC. AND THEN WITH ALL THAT COMPLICATED. IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS PROJECT3,0 POWER TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC. AND THEN WITH ALL THAT COMPLICATED. IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS PROJECT AND RAN THE PLANT TO FAILURE AND WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT CHOICE AND THE THAN THREE YEARS. TSELF IN LESS- FINALLY, THE TOTAL DIVERSION COST -- AND LARRY CAN GET INTO MORE DETAILS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS IS ALMOST $13 MILLION OR $12.9 MILLION. FINALLY, SUPER PROUD OF THE WASTE ENERGY TEAM BEHIND ME. SOLID WASTE TEAM AND THE CAB TEAM FOR PULLING OFF YOU THIS RETROFIT. BY ALL ACCOUNTS, I THINK IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. WE GOT GOTH IT DONE. SO WITH THAT, I CAN EITHER -- CHAIRMAN, I CAN EITHER GO THROUGH SOME OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S QUESTIONS THAT I DIDN'T HIT IN THE PRESENTATION OR -- AND SOME WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER. WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. OR JUST OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT THAT WAS WONDERFUL. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO START OF SAYING HOW AMAZING IT IS. >> I AM SORRY? >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW AMAZE NAG YOUR TEAM WAS ABLE TO GET IN DONE IN SUCH A WAY. I KNOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED ON MAY 1. AND TOOK ANOTHER SIX WEEKS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING BUT YOU WENT THROUGH A LIST OF THE REASONING AS TO WHY. WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF TIME. I AM GOING TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRANSFORMERS. WHAT WILL BE THE DOWNTIME, IF ANY, WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE? WHAT IS YOUR -- YOUR PREDICTION ON THE DOWNTIME FOR THE GENERATOR REINSTALL? >> I EARLIER, SEVEN TO TEN DAYS PROBABLY. >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT? >> MUCH SHORTER THAN THIS OUTAGE. >>LYNN HURTAK: WITHIN TWO WEEKS. >> WITH THE CAVEAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU START THE WORK. >>LYNN HURTAK: OF COURSE. >> IF YOU FIND THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO CORRECT, HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO CHANGE TAP SETTINGS AND THAT KIND OF THING. SEVEN TO TEN DAY IS RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE ESTIMATING HURTAK LAURA HOW MUCH OF THAT $99 MILLION CAPITAL PROJECT COST DOES THAT POURING OF THE CONTRACT REPRESENT? ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY? >> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES A -- >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THAT TRANSFORMER PORTION OF THE $99 MILLION REPRESENT. >> $7 MILLION. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE STILL GOING TO BE OPEN $7 MILLION. SOME OF THAT IS PROBABLY ALREADY SPOKEN FOR BECAUSE PAYING FOR THE TRANSFORMER. I SEE A NOD I'M YOU. >> GLAD YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT AYE DRESS THAT IN MY PRESENTATION. SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THE CONTRACT IN THE FINAL CHANGE ORDER AND PURCHASE THIS DIRECTLY TO SAVE THE TAXES. WE ARE WAITING ON THE FINAL DRAWINGS TO MAKE HAPPEN FOR THOSE TRANSFORMERS. ONCE WE GET THOSE, WE PUT IT ON ORDER AS FAST AS WE CAN AND PUT THAT OBVIOUSLY PUT THAT $7 MILLION TOWARD THE TRANSFORMERS. COSTS HAVE COME UP. SOME OF THE SAVINGS WITH DIVERSION COULD ADD TO THE $7 MILLION TO PURCHASE ALL OF THEM. >>LYNN HURTAK: SAVINGS IN DIVERSION? I THOUGHT MORE MONEY IN THE DIVERSION. >> I THOUGHT THE FINANCING HAD MORE THAN $12.9 MILLION. MAYBE LARRY CAN HELP ME OUT ON THAT. I MAY BE WRONG ON THAT. >>LYNN HURTAK: WE APPROPRIATED 17.1. >>BRAD BAIRD: WE WERE VERY CONSERVATIVE. >>LYNN HURTAK: MY OTHER QUESTIONS AND THE REST ONLINE. CON I THINK IT GENTLY. 6.2 MILLION. AND 474 MILLION IN OWNER CONTINGENCY. ANY OF THAT HAVE BEEN UTILIZED? >>BRAD BAIRD: OH, YES, MOST OF IT HAS BEEN UTILIZED. SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET TO YOU THIS MORNING, BUT WE WILL PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THOSE ITEMS. >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT. WE WILL GET TOGETHER WITH YOUR TEAM AND COME TOGETHER WITH A TIME TO GET THAT BACK WITH THE WRITTEN REPORT AGENDA. SO THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TRANSPARENCY AND HOPEFULLY GET THIS BACK ON LINE. I THREE QUICK QUESTIONS. HOW DOES THIS TOTAL PRICE COMPARE TO WHAT YOU ALL -- OR THE CITY -- NOT EVERYBODY WAS INVOLVED IN THE DECISION ORIGINALLY. BUT WHEN THE CITY DECIDED TO TAKE THIS OVER FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY SPENT. >>BRAD BAIRD: THE RFQ HAD $15 MILLION IN IT. IF WE HAD THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IN PLACE, RIGHT, WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER. IN THIS CASE, THANKFULLY WE DID NOT. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. AS I WENT THROUGH THERE, I THINK I HIGHLIGHTED A FEW OF THE MAJOR CHANGES OF THE ASH BUILDING. >>BILL CARLSON: BRAD, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHEN THE CITY DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN THE BEGINNING TO ESTIMATE. WHAT WILL IT COST TO FULLY RENOVATE AS THE CITY WENT OFF. WHAT WAS THE TOTAL $15 MILLION? >>BRAD BAIRD: ONLY 15 MILLION WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFQ. TWO THINGS. ONE, SCOPE CHANGED ON SEVERAL OF THOSE PROJECTS. TWO, WE WENT THROUGH THE COVID ERA WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION PRICES IN SOME CASES WITH ELECTRICAL AND INSTRUMENTATION TRIPLED. >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND QUESTION IS. YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WASN'T CHOICE TO RUN OR CRASH OR FALL APART. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. THAT IS NOT AN OPTION THAT ANYBODY WILL LOOK LIKE. THE REAL ALTERNATIVE WILL BE TO GET BIDS FROM A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, EITHER THE ONE RUNNING IT BEFORE OR SOMEBODY ELSE. DO YOU KNOW THE CITY DID THAT AT THAT TIME. THEY DID, HOW DID THAT COST COMPARE? LOOKING AT IT WITH THE LONG RUN. DID WE SAVE MONEY BY DOING THIS OURSELVES OR IN THE SAME PLACE OR WORSE OFF IF A PRIVATE SECT HER RUN IT. >>BRAD BAIRD: EXCELLENT QUESTION. WE DID NOT DO THAT. BUT, HOWEVER, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO A FULL ALTERNATIVE STUDY OF LL -- I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL OF THE OPTIONS WE HAVE. ONE COUNTY OPTIONS WAS TO GO TO A DIFFERENT VENDOR. THE BIG ONE IS COVANTA. AND ANOTHER ONE WAS TO RENEGOTIATE WITH WHEELBRAGGER. BUT THE MOST EFFECTIVE ITEM WAS TO TAKE IT OVER AND A $5 MILLION SAVINGS PER YEAR COMPARED TO THE WHEELBRATER CONTRACT. AND THE IDEA TAKE TO THAT $5 MILLION AND INVEST IT IN THE FACILITY. >>BILL CARLSON: ORIGINALLY ESTIMATE 15 MILLION RENOVATING AND UP TO $9 UNTIL OR BEING, THAT $5 SAVINGS EVEN OVER 30 YEARS WON'T ADD UP TO THE DIFFERENCE, IS THAT RIGHT? >>BRAD BAIRD: AFTER 30 YEARS, IT WOULD. >>BILL CARLSON: MY BAD. NOT IN THE PRIVATE SECT UNTIL 20 YEARS. >>BRAD BAIRD: 20 YEARS, YES, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU CAN SEND THAT ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS US TO BY E-MAIL, THAT WILL BE FANTASTIC. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO PUBLISH IT AS WELL ON THE AGENDA ITEM. LAST QUESTION, YOU TALKED OF THE THE REMAINING EXPENSES. PANY BI NEXT FIVE YEARS, ANY $10 MILLION, $20 MILLION PROJECTS LEFT? >>BRAD BAIRD: NO. I BROUGHT THE LETTER WE SENT TO THE CONTRACTOR. REMAINING ITEMS IS SOMETHING LIKE SPARE PARTS TURNING OVER THE PARTS TO US. REPEATING THE BUNCH LIST. SOME OF THE WORK ITEMS. WE HAVE -- >> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY BIG PARTS. NOT OF THE TRANSFORMERS. >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TOURED THE PLANT. I AM SURE MOST OF US IF NOT ALL OF US. WHAT I SAW IS SOMETHING THAT WAS RUNNING -- I DON'T KNOW HOW. HOLES EVERYWHERE. TRAINS DIDN'T WORK THAT WELL. ONE WAS UP AND DOWN. ONE WAS ANYTHING. EVERYWHERE I TURNED NUTS AND BOLTS ROTTED OUT THAT WERE THIS BIG AND IT WAS JUST READY TO COLLAPSE WITHIN ITSELF. AND THE COST OF THAT THING SHUTTING DOWN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN CATASTROPHIC NOT ONLY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE HADDED TO TRAVEL TO THE LANDFILL AND IN A FEW MONTHS LOOK WHAT IT COSTS. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD DONE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. THE TRANSFORMER OR MAIN PARTS OF THAT CAN'T DO JUST ANYONE. OVER A YEAR TO GET IT. MAYBE TWO YEARS TO GET IT. THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU ARE LOOKING AT. AND I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY DESERVE EVERY BIT OF IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIDN'T RECOGNIZE BECAUSE THEY ARE DRESSED DIFFERENTLY THAN AT THE PLANT. >>BRAD BAIRD: IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SAID PUBLIC. THAT IS IF WE WERE TO SHUT THE PLANT AND HAUL LONG TERM, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COULD NOT SUSTAIN OUR GARBAGE. WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND A LANDFILL LONG WAYS AWAY LIKE OKEECHOBEE AND OUR LANDFILLS AND THE COST WOULD GO UP. AND IT WOULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO THE CITY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXACTLY. COUNCILMAN CLENDENI. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS A GOOD SEGUE INTO I WAS GOING TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS SLEEP AT NIGHT. >>BRAD BAIRD: I WILL SLEEP A LOT BETTER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW. BUT, AGAIN, WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY WERE THE GREAT. AND I THINK THAT IS A TESTIMONY TO WHAT THE OVERSIGHT THAT THE CITY AND MUNICIPALITY VERSUS THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY OPERATING IT. WE GO IN AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PLANT WAS WOEFULLY NEGOTIATED AND BASIC MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP THAT WAS TO BE DONE IS NOT BEING DONE. WE TOOK IT OVER AND RECOGNIZEDED THAT AND WE RECTIFY THE SITUATION BASED ON THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS DEVELOPING ANOTHER WASTE ENERGY PLANT, THAT'S CORRECT? >> THEY HAVE A WASTE ENERGY PLANT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE THEY BUILDING SOMETHING NEW? >>BRAD BAIRD: CHRIS WORKED AT IT I THINK THEY ARE PLANNING A SMALLER RETROFIT, IS THAT RIGHT, CHRIS? >> AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOTHING ON THE TABLE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY QUESTION -- OBVIOUSLY I WORRY ABOUT REDUNDANCY. AND NOW WE HAVE BAROMETRIC PRESSURE BECOME DEPENDENT UPON THIS AS YOU HIGHLIGHTED BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM WITH HAULING AND LAND FILL ISSUES. SO -- AND I KNOW WE ARE PROBABLY -- THESE THINGS TAKE 20 YEARS TO START DEVELOPING. WE NEED TO START DEVELOPING EXPANSION OF REPLACEMENT OF THIS ONE. AND MISS HURTAK IS GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ON THAT. I WONDER IS THERE A WAY TO WORKING WITH THE COUNTY FOR REDUNDANCY IF THEY ARE GOING TO EXPAND AND BUILD WE CAN WORK ON COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WORKING BACK AND FORTH FOR CAPABILITY IN THE FUTURE SO 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WE DON'T GET IN THE SAME SITUATION? >>BRAD BAIRD: WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THE SAME DISCUSSIONS AND SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE WASTE ENERGY SITE, AS ON FIGURED, THE SITE PROPER, IS VERY TIGHT, AS YOU HAVE SEEN. SO AN EXPANSION WOULD BE -- TO USE THE PROPERTY WE BOUGHT ACROSS THE STREET. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT, FOR THAT PURPOSE. >>BRAD BAIRD: YES, WE DID. THAT WAS PART OF THE FINANCING AND WHY THE FINANCING NUMBER WAS DIFFERENT MAN IN THE $99 MILLION NUMBER -- THAN THE $99 MILLION NUMBER. YOU ARE TALKING OF BUILDING A SECOND PLANT ACROSS THE STREET WHICH IS NOT TYPICALLY COST EFFECTIVE. WE ARE LIMITED ON THE EXPANSION BUT WE WILL START TALKING TO THE COUNTY AND SEE IF THERE ARE SOME OPTION THERE IS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPAND IF YOU START THROWING AWAY LESS GARBAGE! JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. >>BRAD BAIRD: RECYCLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 12:08. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICK COMMENT. INCLUDED THE PRICE OF THE LAND IN EXPANSION FOR THE $99 MILLION, I THINK IT IS FAIR TO TAKE THAT OUT. BECAUSE THAT IS NOT -- IF WE WERE COMPARING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR PRIVATE SECTOR TO RUN IT, A PROJECT THAT WHAT IS NOT APPLICANTLES TO APPLES. WHAT WE THOUGHT THE PRIVATE SECTOR CHARGED. WE WOULD FEEL IN THE MID TO LONG-TERM WE WOULD BE AHEAD. BUT HE NEED TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. >>BRAD BAIRD: THE LAND WAS NOT IN THE $99 MILLION THIS WAS JUST THE CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN AND REPURPOSING OF THE EQUIPMENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, A BRAL PRESENTATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RECESS UNTIL 1:30.