. >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS JULY 10TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES ON SOME ITEMS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE STUDYING THE ITEM AS A SO I DON'T MEAN WE WILL NOT BE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING OR TAKING FORMAL ACTION ON OTHER ITEMS. WE WILL BE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON THOSE ITEMS IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC HEARING YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO. YOU CAN TESTIFY HERE AT CITY HALL IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS OR YOU CAN DO SO ONLINE BY FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE SCROLLING ON YOUR SCREEN ON SOME ITEMS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY ON OTHER ITEMS. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL ACT IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY. WE'RE GOING TO START THIS EVENING WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALL RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING ARE FIVE ITEMS WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOUR STUDY ITEMS. WE ARE GOING TO START OUR AGENDA THIS ITEM WITH IRON ORE ONE WHICH IS THE SWEARING IN OF NEW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. SO I AM GOING TO ASK MR. ABDOU ISSA, MS. AND LYNNETTE MR. JARED MONSTER AND MS. MADELINE SUMMERS TO COME DOWN AND WELCOME ME AT THE PODIUM PLEASE . YEAH, ALL RIGHT. MAKE SURE YOU'RE SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THE FOLKS AT HOME CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. AND I'LL ASK YOU MR. ISSA, TO REPEAT AFTER ME WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND IN THE AIR ALWAYS AUTOMATICALLY IT IS RIGHT. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE. IBSA I ABDI DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITU ATION OF THE UNITED STATES. I SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND STATE OF MINNESOTA AND STATE OF MINNESOTA. TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT ABILITY. CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU, CHAIR CAPTAIN AND TAKE A SEAT UP TOP IF YOU WANT. I'LL ASK MS. AND LONNIE TO COME FORWARD. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I AND LONNIE, I AND LONNIE DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES? THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND WITH AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY. CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER LINNEY THANK YOU, MR. GERARD. MR. CAN STEP FORWARD. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, PLEASE AND REPEAT AFTER ME I. JARED MONSTER. HI JARED. MONSTER. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES. AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND STATE OF MINNESOTA TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY. CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER MUNSTER. THANK YOU, MR.. LASTLY, MISS SUMMERS, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND PLEASE. AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I'M MADELINE SUMMERS. I'M MADELINE SUMMERS. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE OFFICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN AND STATE OF MINNESOTA. AND STATE OF MINNESOTA TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY JUDGMENT AND ABILITY. CONGRATULATIONS COMMISSIONER SUMMERS . IT'S A NEW DAY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT A TIME TO BE HERE. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RELOCATING AN EXISTING SCHOOL ON KILLEBREW DRIVE. AND MR. KARIM SHERRARD, YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT? YES. I WILL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO GET SETTLED THERE . OKAY, KIMMIE GOOD. PERFECT. OKAY, SO WE'RE HERE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE RELOCATION OF AN EXISTING SCHOOL AT 2051 KILLEBREW DRIVE TO 2001 KILLEBREW DRIVE JUST TO GIVE A BACKGROUND, THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE C FOUR ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. TO THE NORTH IS THE SIX TWO ZONING DISTRICT, THE MALL OF AMERICA AND TO THE WEST AND EAST OF THE C FOUR ZONING DISTRICTS TO THE SOUTH YOU HAVE OR M24. SO IT'S SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS . OKAY SO CURRENTLY ON BLUE SKY SCHOOL SO ONLINE SCHOOL AND IT'S A PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL THAT PROVIDES HONOR EDUCATION TO GRADES 6 TO 12 THROUGHOUT MINNESOTA AND THEIR CURRENT LOCATIONS AT 2051 KILLEBREW DRIVE BACK IN JANUARY 6TH OF 2020, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ONLINE SCHOOL AND EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. SO THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE AND IT HAS BEEN NO INCIDENCE SINCE THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THAT LOCATION. SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE TO 2001 KILLEBREW DRIVE WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE SAME CAMPUS. THEY SHARE A INTERNAL COURTYARD AND THE SCHOOL WANTS TO RELOCATE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR BETTER INTERNAL LOGISTICS. THEY WANT TO MAINTAIN THE SAME FUNCTIONALLY AS THE CURRENT SPACE BUT THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR INTERNAL LOGISTICS WITHOUT CHANGING THE NATURE, THE INTENSITY AND THE SCOPE OF OPERATIONS. TO GO MORE ABOUT THE SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY THE SCHOOL OPERATES ON TO A TRADITIONAL ACADEMIC CALENDAR OPEN FROM SEPTEMBER TO JUNE RIGHT? RIGHT. WITH REGULAR OFFICE HOURS BETWEEN MONDAY AND FRIDAY 8:00 TO 5 P.M. LIKE A NORMAL SCHOOL BUT MORE LIKE AN OFFICE. THESE IS APPROXIMATELY TEN ADMINISTRATIVE AND SUPPORT STAFF. THEY WORK ONSITE YEAR ROUND AND TEACHERS PRIMARILY WORK REMOTELY WITH OCCASIONAL OFFICE VISITS, ONSITE ACTIVITIES THAT SUPPORT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE SCHOOL INCLUDE QUARTERLY STAFF MEETINGS, MONTHLY STUDENT SUPPORT DAYS AND SOCIAL AND EDUCATIONAL EVENTS ON SITE STUDENT LEARNING CENTER IS OPEN FOR STUDENTS TO RECEIVE ACADEMIC SUPPORT SO THEY CAN WORK INDEPENDENTLY AS WELL. AND IN ADDITION THERE'S SPACE FOR A STATE MANDATED TO THE TESTER. SO IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION AND THEY JUST LOOKING TO MOVE FROM ONE SITE TO THE NEXT. SO WITH THEIR STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO THE FOLLOWING MOTION THANK YOU MR. SHERROD ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF TO MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, CHAIR. MR. SHERROD I WAS JUST READING THROUGH THE PACKET A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND I PULLED IT BACK UP ON MY IPAD HERE. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS SEWER AVAILABILITY SAC CHARGES AT CAN YOU ELABORATE OR MAYBE MR. JOHNSON CAN ELABORATE ON WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE NEED FOR SEWER IT'S EXISTING BUILDING TO EXISTING BUILDING JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHY THAT CHARGE WOULD BE APPLICABLE. YES, THAT CHARGE WOULD BE APPLICABLE BECAUSE IT WILL BE A CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY GOES STRAIGHT TO CURRENT BUILDING BUT I'LL DEFER TO OUR PLANNING MANAGER. I'M JUST TO EXPAND FURTHER. YEAH. ACTING CHAIR CROOKSTON AND COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM. SO BECAUSE THEY ARE CHANGING THE LOCATION TECHNICALLY THE SAC FEEDERS WAS NOT A CITY POLICY AT THE TIME WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2020. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING BUILDINGS TECHNICALLY THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAC DETERMINATION PROCESS REGARDLESS OF ACTUALLY THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO SO AT THE MET COUNCIL ERIC SPECTER OF THAT AS PART OF THEIR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. SO NOW THAT THE CITY POLICY IS PUT IN PLACE THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THAT. THANK YOU BOTH. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MR. SHERROD. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. MR. JOHNSON, IS THERE ANYBODY ON LINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM? >> CHAIR EXCUSE ME? CHAIR COOKED IN ALL THE STAFF THAT'S ONLINE RIGHT NOW OUR CITY STAFF SO VERY WELL. I WILL ASK ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM. FORGIVE ME CHAIR COOKED IN THERE IS A A MEMBER PHIL COLACE IF YOU WANT TO TESTIFY YOU LIGHT UP NEVER MIND SO THAT IS OTHER CITY STAFF IN THE ROOM. FORGIVE ME VERY WELL I SEE ONE OTHER NAME IS POPPED UP. IS THAT A STAFF NAME AS WELL AS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. I SEE THE APPLICANT IS SAM 1010 TRUITT FORGIVE ME FOR NOT GETTING THAT PERFECTLY CORRECT. MR. DEGROOT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM IF THERE'S NOT MR. JAN THEN TRUI IF YOU CAN HEAR US. SO I'LL ASK ONE MORE CHANCE HERE WITH IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM I'M NOT HEARING SO SO THEN I WILL MAKE A FINAL CALL FOR ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM HEARING ON I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE OPPOSED THAT CLOSES THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL MOVE THEN INTO COMMISSION DISCUSSION. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR . IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY CUT AND DRY CASE. I'M HAPPY THAT A YOU KNOW, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY IN A SCHOOL IS IS SAYING IN BLOOMINGTON AND FINDING A SPACE THAT WORKS FOR THEM AND THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE US I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION . COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM IN CASE POLL 2025-7 FOR HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RELOCATING AN EXISTING SCHOOL FROM 25 OR 2 051 KILLEBREW DRIVE TO 2001 KILLEBREW DRIVE KILLEBREW DRIVE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL ON THIS APPLICATION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO THIS IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNLESS AN APPEAL HAS BEEN RECEIVED BY THE CITY BY 4:30 P.M. ON JULY 15TH. THANK YOU MR. SHORT THANKS. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER THREE WHICH IS A STUDY ITEM AND THAT IS FOR THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD CORRIDOR STUDY AND MISS AMY MARONE FROM THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT IS HERE FOR THE STAFF REPORT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION I'M I'M GOING TO ASK IF YOU CAN MOVE FELL AS A PRESENTER FOR THIS. >> ALL RIGHT GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY TONIGHT. MY NAME IS AMY MORAN. I'M A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. NICE TO MEET THE NEW THE NEW MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION. ONE OF YOUR ROLES AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS TO IN AN ADVISORY ROLE FOR TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION RELATED ITEMS. SO YOU'LL SEE CITY STAFF THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BRINGING ITEMS FORWARD. SO WE'LL WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU WITH A WHOLE RANGE OF ITEMS. SOME OF THEM ARE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ON A WHOLE CITYWIDE SCALE. THIS IS A CORRIDOR STUDY SO WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY AN IMPENDING PROJECT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DEVELOP A VISION FOR THIS CORRIDOR SO THAT AN OPPORTUNITY HAS COME UP FOR PROJECTS ON THIS WE HAVE THE ANSWERS SO PHIL KULISH WITH SRF CONSULTING IS LEADING US THROUGH THIS THROUGH THIS STUDY THAT JUST GOT STARTED THIS SUMMER. HE'S GOING TO BE SHARING SOME OF THE GOALS IDENTIFIED IN THIS STUDY AND ALSO WILL BE ASKING FOR YOUR INPUT AT THIS EARLY LEVEL JUST ON SOME PRELIMINARY REACTIONS TO ALTERNATIVES BEING CONSIDERED. SO WE'RE NOT PRESENTING FULL VISION FOR THE CORRIDOR AT THIS TIME. WE'RE AT A VERY EARLY STAGE. WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU LATER THIS FALL AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL SHARE CORRIDOR ALTERNATIVES ALONG WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT IS THE TIME WHEN WE'LL BE ASKING FOR YOUR EITHER SUPPORT FOR THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE OR SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON IT OR YOUR OWN RECOMMENDATION AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ALL GO TO THE COUNCIL. SO TONIGHT WE'LL GET STARTED AND SO WE'LL TAKE NOTES. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS AMY. MM. I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S NOT GOING IN PRESENTATION VIEW UP THERE. WHAT ARE YOU GUYS IN FOR ANYBODY? I SEE THAT. OR DO YOU GUYS SEE THE RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING THE THE SAME THING YOU'RE SEEING UP IN FRONT OF US HERE . THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY BUILD THE ANTICIPATION OF WHAT WE'RE STUDYING HERE. OH, YOU CHERI, MAYBE START OVER. WE SHARE A LITTLE SCREEN SAVER THIS ENTIRE SCREEN STORY THAT YEAH. THANKS FOR THE FACT. OKAY PERFECT. WE'LL GO WITH THIS THEN. ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO YES, AMY MENTIONED WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD VISIONING STUDY WHICH JUST GOT UNDERWAY HERE THIS UNDER THE SPRING AND INTO THE SUMMER. >> SO JENNIFER, TODAY REALLY WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. I'M REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT WHICH FEEDS INTO THE GOALS OUR GOAL FOR WHAT WE'VE LEARNED TODAY. SO WE'VE COMPLETED EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND THEN WE'LL BE USING THAT IN THE FUTURE TO BUILD OFF OF AS WE LOOK INTO THE FUTURE WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE CORRIDOR TODAY AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE AND TO DATE WE'VE HAD ONE ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SO WE'RE GOING TO SHARE THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AND THEN HOW WE'LL BE USING THAT INPUT GOING FORWARD. AND THEN REALLY AT THE END HERE THIS IS KIND OF THE KEY PART IS REALLY GETTING YOUR GUYS'S INPUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO HELPING GUIDE US TO SEE WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING WITH THE CORRIDOR IN TERMS OF THE GOALS, IN TERMS OF WHAT CONCEPTS YOU MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO WE'LL BE PRESENTING SOME EXAMPLES AND REALLY LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT AT THE END OF THIS. SO MORE TO COME ON THAT THAT'S REALLY THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT . >> AND SO JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. SO BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD IT'S ON THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY HERE SO IT'S JUST EAST OF TRUNK HIGHWAY 169 AND IT ACTUALLY USED TO BE THE RIVER CROSSING OF THE MINNESOTA RIVER. THE MAP HERE IS AN OLD IMAGE THERE YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW LINES. THAT'S THE NEW TRUNK HIGHWAY 169 AND THE IMAGE THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST, THE LITTLE RIVER CROSSING DOWN HERE. THIS WAS THE RIVER CROSSING THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN BETWEEN 1978 AND 1980 AND ALSO IT WAS REMOVED IN 1996. BUT DURING THAT TIME THERE WASN'T THE CONNECTION OF TURN 169 SO THE CORNER SERVED MORE OF A REGIONAL PURPOSE. IT WAS ACTUALLY CARRY REGIONAL TRAFFIC ACROSS THE RIVER GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A RIVER CROSSING TRAFFIC GETS FUNNELED THERE SO IT TAKES ON MORE TRAFFIC THAN MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY EXPECT JUST DUE TO THERE BEING LIMITED RIVER CROSSINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE. AND THEN IN 1996 WITH TRUNK HIGHWAY 169 BEING BUILT AND EXTENDED OVER THE MINNESOTA RIVER, THE CONNECTION WAS REMOVED SO THE USE OF THE CORRIDOR HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. IT'S NO LONGER SERVING NECESSARILY THAT REGIONAL TRAFFIC CROSSING THE RIVER. SO OUR STUDY HERE IS A 2.7 MILE LONG CORRIDOR SO SOUTH OF OLD SHARK P SO JUST HERE SO IT'S JUST SOUTH OF DRED SCOTT FIELDS THERE UP TO THE NORTH UP TO ENDING AVENUE SO 2.7 MILES REALLY IT'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALONG THE ROUTE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL JUST NORTH OF OLD CHOCOLATE FOR THE MOST PART IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO RECREATIONAL AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT HERE THERE'S PAD BIKE FACILITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR SO THOSE GET USED QUITE A BIT AS WELL. THERE'S A LOT OF PARKS THERE. THERE'S THE DRED SCOTT PARK, THERE'S COUNTRYSIDE PARK SO THERE'S SEVERAL PARKS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AS WELL. SO IT'S REALLY A RECREATIONAL AS WELL AS A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND NEIGHBORHOOD. >> SO AS WE LOOK FORWARD HERE SO DAILY VOLUMES FOR TRAFFIC SO THAT'S 3500 IS 7500 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING THROUGH THE CORRIDOR ON A DAILY BASIS. AND WHEN WE LOOK OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY STABLE. >> WE HAVE A SLIDE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT THAT SHOWS THAT. BUT SINCE THE EARLY 90S THROUGH TODAY IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT. WE'RE NOT REALLY SEEING A TON OF TRAFFIC GROWTH WHICH IS EXPECTED. I MEAN IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED AROUND THE CORRIDOR THERE'S A RIVER TO THE SOUTH SO NOTHING REALLY NEW CAN BE COMING IN THERE. SO THE VOLUMES HAVE BEEN REALLY STABLE AND CONSISTENT AND THEY'RE WELL UNDER CAPACITY FOR WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY WHICH IS THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS HERE THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL PAVEMENT REHAB PROJECTS. IN 2021 THERE WAS PAVEMENT REHAB DONE SOUTH OF OLD SHARKEY ROAD AND THEN IN 2023 SO JUST TWO YEARS AGO THE STRETCH BETWEEN OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD AND 106 SO THE FIRST MAJOR CROSSING OF THE ROAD WAS REHABBED AND AT THAT POINT THE REMAINING STRETCH NORTH OF 106 IT WAS DETERMINED TO HOLD OFF ON THAT AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT IS THE WATER WANT TO BE, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS I MEAN RIGHT NOW IT'S A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY BUT BASED ON THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AND IT COULD PROBABLY FUNCTION WITH SOMETHING LESS. SO BEING COGNIZANT OF VALUABLE RESOURCES AND DOLLARS, WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MAYBE SCALE BACK THE THE CORRIDOR IN TERMS OF TRAVEL LANES AND SEE MORE SO WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HOLISTICALLY IMPROVE THE CORRIDOR FOR ALL USERS. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT INITIATED THE STUDY AS WE MENTIONED IT JUST GOT STARTED HERE THIS YEAR BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORY THAT'S LED US TO THIS STUDY AND THEN REALLY WHAT WE'LL BE TRYING TO DO HERE. SO AS PART OF THIS STUDY IS REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE CORRIDOR TODAY AS WELL AS INTO THE FUTURE AND ALIGN THEM BETTER FOR THE DESIGN OF THE ROADWAY TRYING TO REALLY BUILD A SUSTAINABLE ROAD THAT SERVES US NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE AND THIS QUARTER HAS UNIQUE AND THERE IS I MEAN IT'S A PRETTY WIDE RIGHT AWAY SO RIGHT AWAY IS HOW MUCH SPACE THE CITY OWNS TO DO PUBLIC PROJECTS AND I WOULD SAY THIS QUARTER IS FAIRLY UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF IT THERE. THERE'S ALREADY THE FOUR LANE DIVIDED THERE'S SIDEWALK TRAILS OUT THERE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SOLUTIONS THAT ARE GOOD SOLUTIONS AND WHAT WE'LL BE TRYING TO DO HERE IS GET TOGETHER AND PUT TO REALLY COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION, THE OPTIMAL SOLUTION THAT WE RECOMMEND GOING FORWARD HERE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OVERALL PROJECT BEFORE WE JUMP TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA ? ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S OVERALL PROJECT GOALS. SO AS WE MENTIONED WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DEVELOP OR DESIGN THE CORRIDOR FOR ALL MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF THE CORRIDOR FOR THE USERS. I MEAN AS I MENTIONED, IT GETS USED A LOT FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES SO REALLY TRY TO ENHANCE IT FOR THE VULNERABLE ROAD USERS. SO THE GRAPHIC ON THE BOTTOM HERE SHOWS OVERARCHING OBJECTIVES GOALS OF THE PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE WE'LL GET INTO MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT REALLY IT'S TO CREATE SUSTAINABLE ROAD THAT BENEFITS ALL USERS, ENHANCES PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, MANAGES TRAFFIC WHILE ALSO BEING SUSTAINABLE IN THE SENSE OF IMPROVING WATER QUALITY THAT'S OUT THERE IMPROVING THE FLOOD RISK MANAGEMENT SO MAKING IT MORE RESILIENT TO FLOODING THAT CAN OCCUR IN THE FUTURE AND REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES SO IMPROVING THE AIR QUALITY AROUND THE CORRIDOR. SO THESE ARE THE MAIN GOALS OR MAIN OBJECTIVES THAT THEN FROM THERE THROUGH INPUT FROM THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SO THAT'S A TECHNICAL GROUP BUILT UP OF PRIMARILY CITY STAFF FROM VARIOUS GROUPS PLANNING PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY SERVICES AS WELL AS HENNEPIN COUNTY SINCE ALL CHOPPY ROAD THAT CROSSES THE CORRIDOR IS A COUNTY OWNED ROADWAY SO THEY'RE ALSO INVOLVED HERE. SO THROUGH INPUT FROM THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THESE ARE THE GOALS THAT WE FOLLOW UP WITH FOR THE PROJECT. SO THERE'S FOUR MAIN AREAS THERE'S WATER RESOURCES WHICH IS LOOKING AT WATER FLOW OF WATER QUALITY THROUGH THE CORRIDOR SUSTAINABILITY THAT'S LOOKING AT THE GREENHOUSE GASES, TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING AS RESILIENT AND SUSTAINABLE INTO THE FUTURE MOBILITY THAT COVERS THE FULL RANGE OF USERS OF THE CORRIDOR PEOPLE DRIVING IT, PEOPLE WALKING, BIKING IT SO LOOKING AT HOW THEY GO THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, THE OPERATIONS AND SAFETY OF THEM AND THEN AS WELL AS COST RECOGNIZING OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT UNLIMITED FUNDS SO WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE COST THAT A PROJECT TAKES. SO WE HAVE VARIOUS BREAKDOWNS OF THE GOALS SO THE GOALS ARE TO THE RIGHT THERE. WE CAN DIVE INTO THESE A BIT MORE LATER AND YOU'RE REALLY INPUTTING THESE BUT THESE ARE WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW FOR THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE MEASURABLE CRITERIA FOR EACH OF THESE AT THIS POINT. SO LIKE REDUCE IMPERVIOUS AREA WE WOULD BASICALLY JUST BE MEASURING HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS AREA IS OUT THERE TODAY COMPARING IT TO A POTENTIAL SOLUTION AND THEN GREENHOUSE GASES WE HAVE TOOLS THAT TAKE TRAFFIC MODELS AND EXPORT OUT WHAT ARE THE VEHICLE EMISSIONS AND THEN WE CAN RUN ANALYSIS ON THEM SO MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON HOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY QUANTIFY ALL THESE. SO THAT'S REALLY A KEY PIECE OF THIS PROJECT IS IDENTIFYING THESE GOALS UP FRONT TO REALLY BE ABLE TO EVALUATE ALTERNATIVES SINCE THERE IS SO MUCH RIGHT AWAY OUT THERE TODAY THAT THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE WHEREAS A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE CONSTRAINED RIGHT AWAY AND THAT'S A BIG FACTOR HERE. THERE'S PROBABLY MORE RIGHT AWAY THAN NEEDED SO REALLY TRYING TO TAILOR IT IN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION. SO REALLY PUTTING A FOCUS ON THESE GOALS SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR INPUT ON THESE IN A LITTLE BIT HERE. >> NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. NO ONE SPENT A TON OF TIME ON THESE BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FAIRLY TECHNICAL AND MORE INTO THE WEEDS. BUT DO YOU JUST WANT TO KIND OF AT LEAST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN DONE TO DATE? SO WE DID GET OUT THERE IN APRIL AND COLLECT UPDATED TRAFFIC COUNTS AT ALL THE KEY INTERSECTIONS THERE ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE COLLECTED THE MOVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION SO WHO IS GOING THROUGH, WHO'S TURNING RIGHT SO ON AND SO FORTH AS WELL AS LOOKING AT 80 WHICH IS ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S ON A DAILY LEVEL. WHAT'S THE TRAFFIC DOING THROUGH THE QUARTER? WHAT ARE THE VOLUMES AND YOU CAN SEE THE GRAPHS ON THE LEFT HERE THEY'RE PRETTY FLAT SO THEY THEY EXTEND BEFORE 2002 NOW WHICH REALLY SHOWS THESE ARE OUR GRAPHS OF THE DAILY VOLUMES BY BEING FLAT LIKE THIS IT'S SHOWING THAT THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF GROWTH OUT THERE. WE'RE NOT SEEING TRAFFIC VOLUMES GROWING. SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT KIND OF WHAT'S ALLOWS US TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO MAYBE LOOK AT REUSING SOME OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY FOR OTHER PURPOSES. THE FACT THAT THERE IS THE VOLUMES ARE CONSISTENT. THEY'RE NOT GROWING. WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVE TO BE TOO CONCERNED ABOUT ALL SUN VOLUMES ARE GOING TO SHOOT UP AND WE MIGHT NEED SOME OF THAT RESERVE CAPACITY SPEEDS ARE ALSO SOME DATA THAT WE COLLECTED OUT THERE SO WE SET RATE OUR UNITS WHICH COLLECTS VEHICLE TRAVEL SPEEDS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT AND AWARE OF. SO THAT SPEED LINE IS 35MPH OUT THERE. THE GRAPH HERE JUST SHOWS THAT DISTRIBUTION OF VEHICLES TRAVELING THERE THE YELLOW LINE IS THE SPEED LIMIT AND YOU SEE ALL THE THE DISTRIBUTION THAT FOR EACH OF THOSE THERE'S A HISTOGRAM THAT JUST SHOWING ALL THE VEHICLES THAT ARE EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT SO SHOWS THAT THERE DEFINITELY ARE PEOPLE LIKE SEEING THE SPEED LIMIT OUT THERE. SO ONE OF THE GOALS HERE WILL BE TO REALLY CONTROL THOSE VEHICLE SPEEDS AND LOOK TO REDUCE THOSE WITH ALL THE MULTIMODAL USERS OF THE CORRIDOR REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT SO PADS AND BIKES FEEL SAFER OUT THERE SO SIGNAL WARRANTS. SO THERE'S TWO BLOOMINGTON OWNED AND OPERATED SIGNALS ON THE CORRIDOR THERE'S ONE AT 102ND STREET SO RIGHT THERE A COUNTRYSIDE PARK AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE AT VENUS ROAD ON THE NORTHERN END. SO THOSE ARE TWO SIGNALS THEY'RE NEARING THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIFE. SO LOOKING TO SEE ARE THEY NEEDED OR IS THERE MAYBE A BETTER FORM OF TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED? SIGNALS OBVIOUSLY THEY COST MONEY TO UPKEEP. THEY USE ELECTRICITY. THEY HAVE TO BE TWEAKED BY ENGINEERS FOR TIMINGS AS WELL AS IF THEY GET HIT FROM CRASHES DURING SNOW EVENTS AND THERE SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A MAINTENANCE COST TO SIGNAL. SO TRYING TO AGAIN GET TO BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE AND REALLY MEETS THE NEEDS OF WHAT'S OUT THERE WHILE NOT HAVING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED AND AT LEAST BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THE VOLUMES THAT WE COLLECTED OUT THERE, BOTH SIGNALS ARE NOT WARRANTED BASED ON SINGLE WARRANTS THAT ARE USED FOR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IS A SIGNAL NEED OR NOT AS WELL AS YOU GENERALLY WANT TO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL THAT ALIGNS WITH EXPECTATIONS AND THE NEEDS YOU DON'T. SO YOU WANT TO SIGNAL OUT THERE IF THEY'RE NOT NEEDED BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WILL START TO DISOBEY THEM START TO RUN RIDES WHEN THEY'RE NOT NEEDED. SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING ELSE TO KEEP IN MIND AT LEAST THE TWO SIGNALS WE'RE SEEING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW DO NOT MEET WARRANTS FOR BEING PUT IN OR KEPT THERE OPERATIONS. >> SO THIS IS A LOT OF TABLES HERE. THERE'S A LOT NUMBER IS LETTERS DON'T REALLY NEED TO DIVE TOO MUCH IN THEM BUT WE DID COMPLETE AN OPERATIONS ANALYSIS WHICH IDENTIFIES LEVEL SERVICE LEVEL SERVICE FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE IS A SCORE FROM A TO F THAT QUANTIFIES HOW WELL TRAFFIC IS FLOWING VERY SIMILAR TO SCHOOL AND A IS GREAT THINGS ARE WORKING WELL. PEOPLE CAN MAKE THE MOVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT OR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AFFECTS THINGS ARE STARTING TO DEGRADE YOU'RE SORRY HAVE TO WAIT AT LIGHTS OR ON THE SIDE STREET TO MAKE YOUR MOVEMENT A STOP SIGN A LOT LONGER. SO IT'S JUST A SCALE THERE'S NUMBERS THAT GO IN IN EACH ONE OF THESE. BUT I WOULD SAY THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE IS WE'RE ALL SEEING LEVELS SERVICE AA TO SEE SEES THAT THE WORST OF ALL CHALK UP JUST AS THAT'S A BUSIER SIGNAL BUT OVERALL THINGS ARE OPERATING WELL OUT THERE. I MEAN LEVEL SERVICE C IS STILL CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE FOR THE MOST PART NOT REALLY ANY CONCERNS. SO ANOTHER PIECE OF THE POINT THAT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE THAT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S OPERATING WELL TODAY. THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE ALONG THE CORRIDOR. WE ALSO COMPLETED A CRASH ANALYSIS. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT THE CRASHES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OUT THERE, WHETHER THAT'S A VEHICLE THE VEHICLE VEHICLE, THE PED VEHICLE, THE BIKE. SO WE'VE COMPLETED AN ANALYSIS ON THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS OF DATA AND OVERALL FOR THE MOST PART THERE'S NOT TOO MANY CRASHES OUT THERE. BUT ONE THAT DOES STAND OUT IS BLOOM TWO FERRY ROAD AND LINDSTROM DRIVE. I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED AS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE INTERSECTIONS IN THE CITY FOR CRASH RATE WHICH THE CRASH RATE IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF CRASHES THAT OCCURRED RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ENTERING THE INTERSECTION. SO IT'S A WAY TO SCALE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH AN INTERSECTION. THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU HAVE GO THROUGH THE HIGHER LIKELIHOOD THERE IS OF CRASHES. SO THIS IS A WAY TO TRY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT BY LOOKING AT CRASH RATE AND NOT JUST THE NUMBER. SO LINDSTRÖM DRIVE RELATIVELY DOESN'T HAVE A TON OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH IT BUT IT HAS HAD SIX CRASHES SO THAT'S WHY IT'S FLAGGED HERE IN RED BECAUSE IT'S ABOVE THE CRITICAL CRASH RATE WHICH IS A METRIC TO QUANTIFY HOW INTERSECTIONS COMPARE TO OTHER INTERSECTIONS AROUND THE STATE . SO THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL STATISTICAL ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO THAT TO REALLY SEE HOW TWO INTERSECTIONS COMPARE FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. SO LINDSTROM DRIVE IS SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT IN THIS INTERSECT AREA ON THIS CORRIDOR JUST DUE TO HAVING SIX CRASHES WITH A RELATIVELY LOW NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ENTER THAT INTERSECTION PAD BIKE. SO THE GOOD NEWS HERE IS THERE IS A DECENT AMOUNT OF PAD BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE. THERE ARE SIDEWALKS OR TRAILS ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR AND THEN FROM BIKES THERE'S AN OFF STREET FACILITY ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. SO PADS AND BIKES RIGHT NOW ARE SEPARATED FROM VEHICLES INCLUDING THE HIGHLAND TRAIL WHICH EXTENDS FROM 106 TO THE FERRY BRIDGE. SO ON THE FLIP ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, DEPENDING ON WHICH PART OF THE CORNER YOU'RE ON BUT THERE IS A SEPARATED FACILITY FOR PADS AND BIKES ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR AND THEN LOOKING BACK ON TO THE SAFETY HERE. SO WE DID LOOK AT A LONGER TERM SO WE LOOKED AT TEN YEARS FOR PEDS BIKES. THEY'RE NOT AS FREQUENT OF CRASHES SO WE PULLED TEN YEARS TO SEE ARE THERE PED BIKE CRASHES OUT THERE ARE THERE COLLISIONS BETWEEN A PEDESTRIAN OR A BIKE AND A VEHICLE AND THESE ARE SOMETHING WE WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO BECAUSE THE PADS AND BIKES ARE MORE OF A VULNERABLE USER. IF YOU GET HIT AS A PADDED BIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE THAT'S PROTECTING YOU. SO THESE ARE SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BE COGNIZANT OF AND AND REALLY TRY TO MINIMIZE THE LIMIT. SO THERE WERE TWO CRASHES IN THE PAST TEN YEARS. ONE WAS IN 2018 AT LANDAU DRIVE WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN AND THEN ONE WAS IN 2015 OUR OLD GEOGRAPHY ROAD WITH A BIKE SO THAT COVERS ALL THE TRAFFIC WE HAD BIKE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND WE ALSO DID LOOK AT EXISTING WATER RESOURCES, EXISTING FLOODING OUT THERE. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO YOU NOTED THAT THERE'S A SEPARATED PEDESTRIAN BIKE CORRIDOR ALONG THE FULL EXTENT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. YEP. IS THAT PHYSICALLY SEPARATED OR A SEPARATE PAINTED LANE PHYSICALLY SEPARATED, YEAH. YEAH THERE'S THE THE CURB FOR THE ROAD AND THEN THERE'S GRASS MEDIAN AND THEN THERE'S THE FACILITY SO EVERYTHING'S FULLY SEPARATED FROM TRAMLINES THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT SO THEN JUMP IN IN THE WATER RESOURCES SO AS WE MENTIONED SUSTAINABILITY WAS ANOTHER PIECE HERE AND REALLY TRYING TO BUILD A RESILIENT SYSTEM. SO LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OUT THERE FROM A FLOODING PERSPECTIVE, THE MAP HERE IS ESSENTIALLY THE 100 YEAR FLOOD EVENT. SO IT'S AN EVENT THAT YOU WOULD PARTICIPATE TO OCCUR ONCE EVERY HUNDRED YEARS. THIS SHOWS THE FLOODING. SO THE BLUE IS WHERE WHERE THE WATER WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE POOLING AND AT THAT TIME AND FOR THE MOST PART YOU CAN SEE IT'S OFF THE ROAD THERE IS A LITTLE BIT ON THE ROAD ON THE NORTHERN END AND RIGHT HERE ON COUNTRYSIDE PARK NOT TOO MUCH CONCERN WITH THOSE THERE. THEY'RE BEING KEPT ON THE ROAD . THE BIGGER CONCERN IS DOWN HERE AND LANDALE LANE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE BLUE AREAS HAVE EXTENDED BEYOND THE ROAD. SO JUST FOR REFERENCE THE ROAD IS THIS LINE RIGHT HERE THAT I'M I'M HIGHLIGHTING SO WHEN YOU SEE THIS THIS IS BLUE THAT'S INDICATING THAT WATER IS EXCEEDED THE ROADWAY AND NOW HAS STARTED TO FLOOD INTO OTHER AREAS AND I KNOW IT DOES IMPACT PROPERTIES ALONG LAND CIRCLE WYOMING CIRCLE AND WYOMING WAY SO YOU CAN SEE THAT EXTENDS A FAIR AMOUNT AWAY FROM THE ROAD. SO DURING TIMES OF HIGH INTENSITY RAIN EVENTS THERE CAN BE FLOODING OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK TO ADDRESS AS WELL WITH THIS PROJECT TO BETTER MANAGE THAT TO HELP REALLY LIMIT THE FLOODING OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES . >> OKAY. SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM DOING A TECHNICAL ANALYSIS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE FIRST ROUND OF THAT? TO BE SURE WE THANK YOU, CHAIR. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAP? YOU SAID THERE WERE TWO. YEP. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF ARE THEY BY PARKS? I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER THEY REPLACED THEIR FOR ACCESS TO PARKS OR WHETHER THEY REPLACE THEIR FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL. >> YEAH THIS ONE IS THAT COUNTRYSIDE PARK. SO THIS OTHER ONE IS A PARK. OKAY. THE ONE ON THE NORTHERN END IS NOT NECESSARY. THAT'S TWO PUBLIC ROADS AND THERE'S MORE COMMERCIAL AROUND IT BUT YET THIS OTHER ONE IS THAT COUNTRYSIDE PARK. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LINDSTROM IS THAT IS THAT AN ON SIGNAL INTERSECTION? >> CORRECT. IT HAS STOP SIGNS ON THE SIDE STREET. SO IF YOU'RE APPROACHING ONCE EVERY ROAD YOU HAVE A STOP SIGN YOU HAVE TO STOP THAT AND THEN MAKE A TURN. AND I WOULD SAY AT THAT LOCATION TOO THERE IS A VERTICAL CURVE SO IT SITS KIND OF AT THE PEAK. SO SIGHTLINES AS YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE TURNS MIGHT BE CHALLENGING AS WELL. SO THAT COULD BE PARTIALLY WHAT CONTRIBUTES TO SOME OF THE CRASHES OUT THERE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS AS WE PAUSE HERE? COMMERCIAL REASON YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. SO AS WE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS CHART THAT STATED THE TARGET AREA OF CONCERNS SUCH AS WATER RESOURCES SUSTAINABILITY MOBILITY AND COST AND YOU WENT OVER IT I THINK AT LEAST MOST OF THEM HOW HOW THE HISTORY AND HOW BASICALLY THE DATA ON THAT MY MY QUESTION IS IF YOU SAID LIKE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS FOR EXAMPLE IS IS FINE IN THE AREA AND IT'S THERE'S NOT MANY CRASHES AS WELL EXCEPT FOR THAT PORTION OF THE I THINK IS BURLINGTON FERRY AND LINDSTROM WHICH MAYBE COULD BE FIXED BY I'M NOT I'M NOT LIKE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR ANYTHING BUT LIKE POTENTIALLY LIKE INCORPORATING OUR SIGNAL OR WHATEVER WORKS YOU KNOW AND IF THE EXISTING PAD AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PRETTY SOUND AND AS FAR AS FLOODING IT'S A SPECIFIC AREA OF ISSUE IN THE SOUTH I THINK IT WAS THAT ALSO AFFECTS HOMES IN THE AREA. I, I WOULD I'M NOT TO JUMP THE GUN HERE BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND LIKE TARGETING THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS MY SPECIFIC QUESTION I GUESS IS AS FAR AS SUSTAINABILITY, WHAT DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE LIKE YOU KNOW, THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSION IN THIS AREA? SEE IF IT'S AVERAGE BELOW AVERAGE OR YOU KNOW, IF IT'S EVEN SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. AND LASTLY WELL, THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. A SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE THE COST HOW MUCH POTENTIALLY WOULD IT COST AND WHERE WOULD THOSE FUNDS COME FROM? THANK YOU. YEAH, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE ON THE GREENHOUSE GASES SO WE DO HAVE TOOLS THAT ALLOW US TO COMPARE WHAT IS IT TODAY TO THE FUTURE AND I WOULD SAY AS A REGION OR REALLY THE WHOLE REGION IS LOOKING TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES, REALLY REDUCE VEHICLE TRAVEL AND AND GREENHOUSE GASES IN THE AREA. SO AS A WHOLE THERE'S INITIATIVES TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE DO HAVE TOOLS THAT ALLOW US TO COMPARE WHAT IT IS TODAY AND SEE LIKE IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT THIS WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE GREENHOUSE GASES ALONG THE CORRIDOR? AND IF WE IMPLEMENT LIKE A ROUNDABOUT VERSUS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WE CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES AS WELL THAT THE TIME AND COST WE DON'T HAVE ANY ESTIMATES RIGHT NOW REALLY WE'RE TRYING TO GATHER INPUT TO THEN BE ABLE TO DEVELOP CONCEPTS THEN THEN FROM THERE WE CAN PUT COST ESTIMATES TO SO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COST ESTIMATES OR REALLY ANY WAY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE POTENTIAL COST IS. WE'LL HAVE TO DIVE INTO ARE WE LOOKING AT THREE LANES? ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR WHAT'S THE CONFIGURATION OR WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC CONTROL ARE WE PUTTING OUT THERE? IS IT ROUNDABOUTS? IS IT SIGNALS AND REALLY WHAT KIND OF ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ARE WE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WELL I DID MENTION THEY'RE SEPARATED FACILITIES ALONG THE CORRIDOR FOR PEDS BIKES. THERE IS ALSO SOME STRETCHES THAT IT'S LIKE OVER A MILE BETWEEN MARKED CROSSINGS FOR PEDESTRIANS, PARTICULARLY ON THE NORTHERN HALF. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THAT. THERE'S THE FACILITIES LONG CORRIDOR BUT CROSSING THE CORRIDOR CAN BE A CHALLENGE TOO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IS WITH SOME ENHANCED CROSSINGS AND PUTTING ADDITIONAL ONES TO THOSE. SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK WITH MORE OF A COMMENT ON THE COST. I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE AT THIS POINT. I THINK YOU DEFINITELY MR. COOLEST HOW HOW DO WE REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES? WHAT ARE SOME STRATEGIES THERE THAT COULD COULD BE IMPLEMENTED? YEAH. SO GREENHOUSE GASES I MEAN THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IS ONE FORM OF IT. IS IT ARE YOU KEEPING TRAFFIC FLOWING? ARE YOU STOPPING STARTING IT SO I CAN ALWAYS STOP CONTROL INTERSECTION WOULD TYPICALLY PERFORM WORSE IN LIKE A ROUNDABOUT JUST DUE TO I DON'T ALWAYS STOP YOU'RE STOPPING EVERY VEHICLE EVERYONE HAS TO STOP AND ACCELERATE WHICH IS REALLY WHERE A LOT OF THE GREENHOUSE GASES COME FROM. YOU CAN LOOK AT MODE SHIFT I MEAN TRYING TO ENHANCE PEOPLE OR ENHANCE FACILITIES SO PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO SHIFT FROM A VEHICLE TO WALKING OR BIKING. SO BASICALLY THE MODE SHIFT IS A BIG ONE BECAUSE IN VEHICLE YOU TAKE OFF THE ROAD YOU'RE REDUCING THE GREENHOUSE GASES. THE VEHICLES HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FOOTPRINT IN TERMS OF GREENHOUSE GASES RELATIVE TO PADS OF BIKES. SO THOSE ARE SOME STRATEGIES THAT CAN CAN BE DONE AND YOU COMMISSION MR. GOOD SO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO THAT THIS IS ALL PART OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE LANES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, HOW MANY CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF MORE SLIDES. THERE WAS A CROSS SECTION OF A STREET THERE WE GO. SO IS THIS JUST SORT OF A TYPICAL COOKIE CUTTER CROSS SECTION? >> YEAH. SO YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. QUESTION YEAH, THESE ARE JUST POTENTIAL EXAMPLES LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE GETTING TO WITH THIS PROJECT IS WHAT WHAT COULD IT BE? SO YEAH THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES OF OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE NOT NOT SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS OUT THERE OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IF IT WAS SPECIFIC I HAD OTHER QUESTIONS. YEP YEP. NO GETTING IT. GET A QUESTION COMMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. KOWALSKI. YOU GOT ALL RIGHT. WELL JUMP AHEAD HERE THEN TO THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. SO WE HAD THE FIRST ROUND REALLY WAS TO GATHER INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT ARE THEIR ISSUES AND CONCERNS ON THE CORRIDOR THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE AND WALK BIKE THE CORNER EVERY DAY THEY BRING UP SOME INSIGHTS THAT WE MIGHT NOT NOTICE OR BE AWARE OF. SO WE WANT TO GATHER THEIR INPUT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL AS THEY'RE THE USERS OF IT EVERY DAY. SO WE ALL MAKE SURE WHAT WE IMPLEMENT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THEM. SO FIRST ROUND HERE WAS REALLY JUST INFORMATION GATHERING. WE DIDN'T GO WITH ANY ANYTHING OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OR ANY ALTERNATIVES. THIS WAS REALLY JUST TO GATHER THEIR INPUT. SO WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE WEDNESDAY MAY 14TH OUR COUNTRYSIDE PARK SO RIGHT HERE ALONG THE CORRIDOR WHERE THAT GREEN DOT IS ARE YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNAL HERE THAT WE JUST WERE REFERENCING. SO WE WERE THERE. ATTENDANCE WAS ROUGHLY 80 PEOPLE ATTENDED. IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD ATTENDANCE. IT WAS A NICE NIGHT. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE BIKING TO IT AS WELL IN TERMS OF DRIVING AND THEN AS WELL AS LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON THAT'S A WEBSITE THAT THE CITY HOSTS THAT IS USED ON PROJECTS TO GATHER INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC SO IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO INTERACTIVELY CONNECT, PROVIDE INPUT, COMPLETE SURVEYS SO THERE'S A PAGE ON THERE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO THAT WAS ALSO USED SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE REACH OUT TO PEOPLE. WE HAD THE PHYSICAL GOING OUT TO THEM AT A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AS WELL AS THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PAGE AND A MAILER WAS SENT OUT TO A COUPLE THOUSAND PEOPLE ALONG THE CORRIDOR CARRYING THE EXACT AMOUNT BUT THE MAILER SENT OUT ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSE AS WELL AS LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON SO REALLY TRIED TO REACH A LARGER NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO GATHER THEIR INPUT. SO AS PART OF THAT WE HAD A SURVEY WHICH IS AVAILABLE AT THE OPEN HOUSE AS WELL AS ONLINE. I HERE'S A COUPLE OF RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY. SO THE FIRST ONE HERE IS WHAT ARE THE MAIN REASONS YOU TRAVEL ALONG ACROSS BLOOMINGTON? VERY ROAD THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS THE HIGHEST BAR SO THAT WAS THE MOST COMMON ANSWER OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE AREA WHICH MAKES SENSE. IT'S A HEAVY RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR SO MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE LIVE IN THE AREA AND THEN YOU CAN SEE VARIOUS OTHER USES OF IT ACCESSING BUSINESSES IN THE AREA OR TRAVELING FROM THIS AREA OUTSIDE OF THAT. SO IF YOU LIVE HERE YOU'RE MOST LIKELY TRAVELING OTHER AREAS AS WELL. AND THEN THE QUESTION IN THE RIGHT HERE IS WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ON BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD? SO WITH THIS ONE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS AS WELL AS YOU COULD HAVE AN OPEN ENDED RESPONSE BUT THIS SHOW IS REALLY KIND OF THE RANGE OF THINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED THAT ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED HERE. SO GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVE BIKE OPERATIONS, IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AND WIRE SIDEWALKS YOU CAN SEE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE SCORED HIGH OR THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO SEE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE CORRIDOR AS WELL AS IMPROVE PED CROSSINGS. THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HEARD A LOT OF THROUGH DISCUSSIONS AT THE OPEN HOUSE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT REALLY CROSSING THE ROAD AND HOW IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE. SO THAT SET OUT AS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. >> DON'T EXPECT ANYONE BE ABLE TO READ THIS BUT WHAT WE HAD WE CAME WITH WAS A LAYOUT WHICH WOULD KIND OF MIMIC THE WEBSITE AS WELL THAT PEOPLE COULD DROP PINS. BUT HERE WE CAME WITH A LAYOUT OF THE ROADWAY THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO TAKE POST-IT NOTES, WRITE COMMENTS, CONCERNS ON THERE REALLY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND KEY SPECIFIC AREAS OF INTEREST AND A LOT OF THEM WERE RELATED TO REALLY CROSSING THE ROAD AND THE SAFETY OF PADS AND BIKES IN THE AREA LESS LIKE BLOOMINGTON. >> SO THAT'S THE WEBSITE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. THERE'S THE WEBSITE ADDRESS, THE URL IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO CHECK IT OUT IT'S PRETTY EASY TO GET TO AND INTERACTIVE WEBSITE HERE SO IF THROUGH THE FIRST ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT THERE WAS OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE VISITED THE PROJECT WEBSITE, THERE WAS 35 PEOPLE THAT WERE CONTRIBUTORS SO THAT'S 35 PEOPLE THAT COMPLETED THE SURVEY OR PLACED PINS ON THE MAP. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT THERE'S SOME IMAGES OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, SOME COMMENTS BASICALLY YOU COULD CLICK ON THE MAP AND THEN TYPE UP A COMMENT. SO 35 PEOPLE DID THAT AND THERE WERE 60 TOTAL COMMENTS. SO SOME PEOPLE ON MORE THAN ONE OBVIOUSLY THERE. BUT SO I WAS ON OUR WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND AND WE TOOK ALL THIS INPUT AND SYNTHESIZED IT DOWN INTO VARIOUS CHARTS THAT WE JUST SHOWED AS WELL AS JUST SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS WHICH ARE HERE. SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE LEARN FROM THE SURVEYS PEOPLE'S COMMENTS ON THE MAP, PEOPLE'S COMMENTS ON THE LAYOUT AT THE OPEN HOUSE AND THEN JUST THROUGH STAFF DISCUSSIONS WITH PEOPLE AT THE OPEN HOUSE I THINK WE HAD ROUGHLY 6 OR 7 CITY STAFF THAT ATTENDED SO WE WERE THERE THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT JUST CHATTING WITH PEOPLE, TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT AND LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS. SO WE BOILED DOWN TO ESSENTIALLY SIX COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD OR SIX KIND OF KEY THEMES FROM PEOPLE. THE FIRST ONE IS THE STOP SIGN SO THERE'S SOME ALWAYS STOPS OUT THERE WHERE IF YOU'RE ON BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD YOU HAVE TO STOP. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COMMENTED THAT THEY FREQUENTLY SEE PEOPLE NOT STOPPING OR ROLLING THROUGH THE STOP SIGNS PARTICULARLY AS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE ROAD. THAT'S A CONCERN TO THEM AND SO THAT WAS KEY KEEPS US OUT SAFE FOR PED CROSSINGS AND SOME THAT'S TIED TO VEHICLES ROLLING THROUGH STOP SIGNS. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NOTED AS WELL AS AS I POINT OUT BEFORE, THERE'S KIND OF A NORTHERN STRETCH WHERE THERE'S OVER A MILE BETWEEN MARKED CROSSINGS OF BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD SO WANTING ADDITIONAL CROSSINGS AND SAFER CROSSINGS AT HIGHER SPEEDS WAS COMMENTED ON. SO THAT KIND OF GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE GRAPH I HAD SHOWED EARLIER WHERE IT'S SHIFTED THERE'S MORE PEOPLE DRIVING ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT THAN AT OR BELOW IT. SO THOSE HIGHER SPEEDS ARE A CONCERN ESPECIALLY ON CORRIDORS WHERE YOU GET MORE PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES OUT THERE IF A CRASH OCCURS THE HIGHER THE SPEED THE VEHICLE THE MORE LIKELY OF THERE BEING AN INJURY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SO THAT WAS A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAD. I MEAN A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF UNDERSTOOD AND RIGHT YEAH THERE'S A LOT OF RESERVE CAPACITY. WE WERE OUT THERE IN THE PEAK HOUR SO THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST TRAVEL TIMES OF THE DAY FROM LIKE 4 TO 6 P.M. AND THE QUARTER WAS PRETTY QUIET AND SO PEOPLE WERE COMMENTING ON THAT THAT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE COULD BE LESS PAVEMENT OUT THERE, LESS LANES THAN THE ONESUT THERE TODAY ROUNDABOUTS A LOT OF PEOPLE FAVOR THOSE INTERNAL LOCATIONS THINKING THAT THAT WOULD HELP KEEP VEHICLES MOVING WHILE ALSO PROVIDING BENEFITS FOR PADS BIKES AND THAT AVENUE TO SLOW THEM DOWN SO THEN THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING FAST THROUGH THE LOCATIONS WHERE PEDESTRIANS AND BIKES ARE CROSSING THE ROADWAY AND THEN RELATED TO THE GREEN STRUCTURE COMMENT THAT WE JUST SAW AND THE SURVEY OF WHY PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN THAT DEFINITELY HEARD PEOPLE THROUGH THE SURVEY AS WELL AS AT THE OPEN HOUSE THROUGH DISCUSSIONS INTERESTED IN GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE HAVING IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINING IT OUT THERE. SO THOSE ARE THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THE FIRST ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT WE AT LEAST HAVE ONE MORE OPEN HOUSE AND ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT PLANNED AND THAT WILL COME LATER THIS YEAR ONCE WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO THEM . SO ONCE WE GATHER INPUT HERE TONIGHT WE'LL GO BACK AS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND START TO LOOK AT WHAT CONCEPT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT FOR THE CORRIDOR SO THE NEXT ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT WILL BE PRESENTING THOSE TO THE PUBLIC AND GATHERING THEIR INPUT THERE. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO MORE OF THE INTERACTIVE PART OF THE TONIGHT WHERE WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR MORE SPECIFIC INPUT ON ON THE PROJECT SO WE'LL BE SEEKING INPUT ON THE GOALS AS WELL AS WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT POTENTIALLY THESE COULD LOOK LIKE AND REALLY JUST GATHER YOUR INPUT OF THINGS YOU MIGHT LIKE ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE SO WE CAN REALLY START TO TAILOR WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER AT THIS TIME SEEING NONE I THINK WE'LL MOVE INTO THE ENGAGEMENT. ALL RIGHT SO WE'LL GO OVER GOALS SO I SHOWED THOSE PREVIOUS THIS WILL POP THOSE UP. WE'LL BE KIND OF LOOKING FOR INPUT SEEING IF THERE'S ANY GOALS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR ANY THOUGHTS ON THE GOALS THAT ARE THERE AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO MORE OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. SO WE'LL SHOW THOSE WILL BASICALLY ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS HERE AT THE BOTTOM. SO JUST THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AND WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES YOU KNOW, FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT OR RAISE YOUR HAND AS WE GO THROUGH THEM AND JUST PROVIDE INPUT. WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT TILL THE END HERE. SO GETTING INTO THIS WE HAVE GOALS HERE SO WE HAVE THE CORE OBJECTIVES THAT WE SHOWED EARLIER. I MEAN THOSE ARE THE OVERARCHING THEMES GOALS OF THE PROJECT AND THEN WE HAVE THE MORE SPECIFIC ONES HERE OF THE FOUR BREAKDOWN AREAS AS WELL AS THE GOALS THAT ALIGN WITH EACH OF THOSE. SO WE'RE WE'RE CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY GOALS THAT YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON OR IF THERE'S ANY ANY GOALS THAT YOU THINK ARE MAYBE MISSING FROM HERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONSIDERED AS WE GET INTO THE EVALUATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF ALTERNATIVES WHICH WAS YOUR WAY I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE SUSTAINABILITY UP TOWARDS THE TOP. I THINK THAT THAT'S A KEY PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AND I APPRECIATE SEEING THAT ON HERE . I THINK THAT YOU KNOW ACTUALLY DISCUSSING MAKING A ROAD SMALLER IS ALWAYS EXCITING TO ME. SO I THINK WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT ALTERNATIVES YOU FIND FOR THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE. SO I APPRECIATE ALSO HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY WANT MORE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE OPTIONS. I THINK THAT'S VERY EXCITING AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU COME UP WITH. THANK YOU. FISHERIES THANK YOU. CHAIR IS THERE ANY STATISTICS, STATS OR STATISTICS ON THE POPULATION OF THE AREA VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE ENGAGEMENT? FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SPECIFICALLY DO THAT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE WE CAPTURED 10% OF THE AREA OR SOMETHING. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY LIKE THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE LIKE OF THE MAILERS THAT WERE SENT OUT, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO WE CAPTURE FROM THAT? BUT I DON'T THINK WE SPECIFICALLY HAVE THAT AT THIS POINT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD YEAH TO THAT'S GOOD STATISTIC TO TO WHENEVER YOU CAN. OKAY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANECDOTALLY COMMISSIONER, HE'S A IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE HAVE GOT A STRONG PARTICIPATION OUT HERE COMPARED TO OTHER SURVEYS IT SEEMS THAT COME BEFORE US. SO I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE NUMBERS WE GOT. MR. CUNNINGHAM AS FAR AS THE GOALS, I THINK THAT THEY'RE KIND OF THE RIGHT AVENUE FOR EXPLORING WHAT THE BEST FIT FOR THIS ROADWAY IS. ONE THING YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WAS THAT IT'S QUITE A WIDE RIGHT OF WAY AND WATER RESOURCES IS AS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST REVERSE ALPHABETICAL OR WHAT. I JUST WANTED TO I GUESS PUT MY $0.02 IN THAT IT'S A IT'S A PRETTY WIDE CORRIDOR IF WATER RESOURCES ARE REDUCING IMPERVIOUS AREA I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE'S BACKYARD DOESN'T GET GOUGED BY A DETENTION POND. YES. YEAH. SO I JUST WITH WITH THE PLANNING AND HOW THIS KIND OF DEVELOPS JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GRABBING MORE RIGHT OF WAY THAN WE NEED IF WE HAVE ANY CHANGES. YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT. YEAH I THINK RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK THERE'S A VISION NECESSARY OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY IT MIGHT BE DEPENDING ON WHAT INTERSECTION CONTROLS OCCUR THERE MIGHT BE LIKE SPOT LOCATIONS BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INTENT OF AND LIKE ANY LARGE STRIP TAKINGS OF RIGHT AWAY HERE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND I SHOULD ALSO MAYBE CLARIFY TO THESE ARE UP HERE AND I GUESS AN ORDER I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TOP ONE IS LIKE OUR PRIORITY NUMBER ONE TO RANK DOWN TO HOW MANY WE HAVE HERE 15 OR SO. WE WILL ULTIMATELY PROBABLY COME TO SOME TYPE OF PRIORITIZATION. BUT RIGHT NOW THESE ARE JUST THE GOALS WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY PRIORITIZED THIS GOAL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT VERSUS X GOAL. SO JUST MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY THAT. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER LISA I THANK YOU CHAIR I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. SO IT WAS THE I BELIEVE THE NEW SPEED RULES IS AFFECTS THIS AREA AS WELL, RIGHT? OKAY. WAS THE HIGH SPEED STUDY BEFORE OR AFTER THAT THAT WAS DONE AFTER BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE IN APRIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES COMMISSIONER. ALL THEM I KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEW RESTAURANT THAT'S GOING DOWN INTO THAT COMMERCIALS STRIP RIGHT THERE THAT IS ALSO EXPANDING AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY PROJECTIONS OF A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN TRAFFIC PARTICULARLY AT THAT INTERSECTION IN IN THE EVENING AND IF THAT'S BEEN FACTORED IN AT ALL, YEAH, THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT WHILE WE'VE ALSO HAVE THE AT LEAST THE PRELIMINARY LOOK ON ANY MODIFICATIONS TO ACCESS THERE. SO THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AS WE LOOK AT THIS LOCATION AND THE CORRIDOR. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ACCESS INTO AND OUT OF THAT AREA AND WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE GOALS SEEING NONE ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT UP HERE I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE COULD BE CONSIDERING WITH THE PROJECT. BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE, HERE'S SOME AERIALS OF THE CORRIDOR AS WELL AS MORE OF A STREET VIEW HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. SO I MENTIONED IT'S A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY. THE CHARACTERISTICS OF IT CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE CORNER YOU'RE ON. SO THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT HERE THIS IS NORTH OF OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD. I SEE YOU CAN SEE IT'S FOUR LANES SO TWO LANES EACH DIRECTION AND THEN THERE'S TURN LANES WHETHER IT BE A RIGHT TURN LEFT TURN LANE AT KEY INTERSECTION. BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THE WIDE GRASSY MEDIAN THROUGH THE CORRIDOR SO THAT'S MORE OF THE NORTHERN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THEN THE MIDDLE IMAGE HERE IS SOUTH OF OLD SHAKOPEE. SO IT'S STILL FALLING DIVIDED ROADWAY TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION BUT THERE'S NO LONGER THE GRASS MEDIAN AND IT'S A TIGHTER MEDIAN THAT'S CONCRETE THERE. SO THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE DIFFERENT THROUGH THE CORRIDOR OVERALL IT'S A FOUR LANE DIVIDE, A ROADWAY BUT IT DOES DEPEND ON WHAT PART OF THE CORNER YOU'RE ON AS TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. BUT NORTHVILLE SHAKOPEE IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONE ON THE LEFT AND THEN SOUTH IT'S THE MIDDLE ONE AND THEN WE JUST HAVE THE THE IMAGE THERE ON THE RIGHT TAKEN THAT'S A STREET VIEW LEVEL SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU WERE DRIVING THIS THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. YOU CAN SEE THE GRASS MEDIAN. SO THIS IS AT 102ND STREET THERE. SO THIS IS AT THAT FIRST OR THE SOUTHERN SIGNAL. SO JUST TO KIND OF PUT THIS IN REFERENCE AND CONTEXT OF WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY AS WE LOOK AT SOME POTENTIAL EXAMPLES AND LOOKING FOR THE INPUT. >> SO I MEAN BASED ON KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING I MEAN I THINK WE'RE REALLY THINKING AND CONSIDERING THREE LANE DESIGNS WHEN I WHEN I SAY THREE LANES THAT CAN LOOK MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. SO THREE LANES IS ONE TRAVELING IN EACH DIRECTION AND THEN VARIOUS OTHER ASPECTS. SO IT COULD BE A TWO WAY LEFT TURN LANE SO THAT'S WHERE VEHICLES ARE ABLE TO GET IN MAKE LEFT TURNS. THERE'S NO MEDIANS. IT COULD ALSO MEAN THREE LANES WITH TURN LANE SO THAT WOULD BE SO ONE LANE TRAVEL IN EACH DIRECTION BUT THERE WOULD BE A LEFT DEDICATED LEFT TURNING LIKE DEDICATE LEFT TURN LANES AT KEY INTERSECTIONS SO THAT'S TWO POTENTIALS AS WELL AS THERE'S ONE THAT'S MORE OF A PARKWAY SO THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE THREE LANE WITH TURN LANES BUT IT'S NOT COMPACT LIKE WHERE ALL THE LANES ARE TOGETHER THERE'S THE GRASS MEDIAN STILL MAINTAINED BUT YOU STILL ONLY HAVE ONE LANE TRAVELING EACH DIRECTION. SO THESE ARE A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF TOP ONE HERE IS 86 STREET HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THAT'S THE THREE LANE WHERE THE TWO LEFT TURN LANE SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S ONE LANES DIRECTION AND THEN IN THE MEDIAN HERE IS THE AREA THAT'S USED FOR VEHICLES TO MAKE LEFT TURNS ONTO AND OFF OF THE ROADWAY. THE ONE DOWN HERE IN THE BOTTOM IS ACTUALLY CEDAR LAKE ROAD IN SAINT LOUIS PARK. THIS IS WHERE THERE IS ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION BUT THEN THERE'S THE TURN LANES HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY THE TWO WAY LEFT TURN LANE SO YOU'RE CONTROLLING IT MORE SO IT'S ONLY LEFT TURNS IN ONE WONDER ACTION AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT CAN BE ASSOCIATE WITH THE MEDIAN AS WELL AND THEN THIS THREE LANE PARKWAY IS 98TH STREET HERE IN BLOOMINGTON JUST WEST OF NORMAN DALE SEE THIS IS WHERE THERE'S THE ONE LANE BUT THEN THERE'S THE PARKWAY SO YOU CAN SEE LIKE WHEN WE SAY THREE LANE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF OPTIONS WITHIN SIDE A THREE LANE OF ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION IT CAN LOOK MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND I'D SAY HERE WHERE THERE'S THE RIGHT AWAY ALREADY PRETTY GOOD ON THE NORTHERN END WHERE THERE'S THE GRASSY MEDIAN THIS OPTION HERE IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL. SO LOOKING TO GATHER INPUT OF WHEN WE SAY THREE LANES AND AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE LANE WHICH DIRECTION IS THERE SOMETHING IN YOUR MIND THAT STICKS OUT OF YES THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE EVALUATOR OR ANOTHER YEAH I'M NOT REALLY THINKING THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO I'M THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WE'RE INTERESTED IN INPUTS HERE SO I THINK A CHAIR SO I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS FOR LIKE THE NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESSES AND EVERYBODY WHO ENGAGED IS THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE SLASH VEGETATION RIGHT HOW WOULD THE 86 VERSION AND CEDAR LAKE ADDRESS THAT COMPARED TO LIKE THE 98 WHERE MAYBE THERE'S MORE SPACE IN THE MIDDLE TO YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. I WOULD SAY YEAH THE ONE HERE THERE'S MORE MORE OF THAT OF GREEN SPACE IN THE MEDIAN AND THESE WE'D BE LOOKING TO SHIFT THAT GREEN SPACE TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER AND IT COULD BE BOTH BUT ESSENTIALLY WITH THE ALL THE ROADWAY THAT'S OUT THERE THERE WOULD STILL BE A LOT OF AVAILABLE ROOM. IT JUST WON'T BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY. IT'D BE OFF TO THE SIDE IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT CONCEPTS LIKE THIS. SO I'D SAY THERE STILL WOULD BE FAIRLY EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ANY OF THESE IT'S JUST IS IT IN THE MIDDLE OR IS IT OFF TO ONE OF THE SIDES? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT THE FACE OF IT. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE 86 STREET MODEL KIND OF PARTICULARLY WHAT YOU JUST HIT ON WHERE WE WANT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, WE WANT SPACE AND IF WE CAN PRESS THE DRIVING SURFACE AND SHIFT TO THE SIDE FOR MULTIMODAL TRAIL OR PARKWAY TREES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY CAN USE AS A RIGHT OF WAY AS OPPOSED TO A PARKWAY NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT AS FANCY AS SOME AT AVENUE BUT IT IS BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD AFTER ALL. SO I WOULD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OR I WOULD GUIDE TO BE MORE KIND OF LIKE THE 86TH STREET MODEL AND NOT A FULL PARKWAY DESIGN. THAT BEING SAID NORTH END WHERE IT'S ALREADY KIND OF ESTABLISHED AND WE CAN JUST SHRINK MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT THERE, VISUAL IT. I WOULD CONCUR FOR A DIFFERENT REASON WHICH IS I THINK IT ALSO MAKES IT A SMALLER AREA FOR THE PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS BIKE RIDERS IN PARTICULAR ESPECIALLY YOUNG BIKE RIDERS. I LIVE OFF OF 98TH STREET AND WATCHING THEM TRY TO NAVIGATE KIND OF THAT EXTRA WIDE DOUBLE CROSSING ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS I THINK IS IS A BIT RISKY. SO FOR THOSE REASONS I THINK THAT'S AN ADMIRABLE, ADMIRABLE GOAL AS WELL GIVEN THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ABOUT CROSSINGS. >> COMMISSIONER WHITE YEAH, I WOULD ECHO I THINK THAT THE PUTTING THE GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE IS MAKES IT UNUSABLE FOR THE MOST PART. SO IF WE CAN SHIFT IT AND CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES ON THEIR SIDES OF THE ROAD FOR THE BIKES AND PATHS AND TRAILS I THINK THAT THAT IS MORE WHAT IS USABLE BY THE COMMUNITY CREATES A BETTER ATMOSPHERE AND ALSO HAS THE ADDED BENEFITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. APPRECIATE THAT INPUT FISHERIES I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COMMERCIAL AND THEY DID YOU MEAN SO WE GUYS IN AGREEMENT OR YEAH OKAY THAT I AGREE THAT THE 86TH OR CEDAR LIKE ESPECIALLY THE 86 STREET MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE A SMALLER STREET TO CROSS AS THE PEDESTRIAN OR THE BIKER SO GETTING THE GREEN GREEN SPACE OFF TO THE SIDES VERSUS DOWN THE MIDDLE. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MUNSTER I GENERALLY DO AGREE ESPECIALLY WITH HAVING A NARROWER SET OF SORT OF PAVED AREA TO GET ACROSS. BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE WHAT ACCESS IS BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD IT SEEMS LIKE HAVING THREE FULL PAVED LANES OF ASPHALT IS OVERKILL FOR THAT ENTIRE STRETCH. SO THERE MAY HAVE TO BE YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE SOME WAY SORT OF THE CEDAR LAKE MODEL BUT TO WHERE THE ROAD CAN NARROW IN THESE LONG STRETCHES WHERE THERE IS NOTHING AND FLARES OUT AGAIN TO INCLUDE TURNING LANES. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD COMMENT I MEAN I WOULD SAY AND VERY ROAD IT HAS GOING FOR IT IT'S PRETTY WELL ACCESS CONTROLLED AS YOU POINTED OUT THERE'S NOT ACCESS POINTS EVERY HUNDRED FEET THERE'S IT'S REALLY ALL PRETTY MUCH STREETS OR DOWN TO THIS OTHER END THERE'S COMMERCIAL ACCESS BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S PUBLIC STREETS AND THEY'RE NOT VERY FREQUENT. SO AS YOU POINT OUT THERE, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITIES TO TO LOOK AT A CONCEPT LIKE THAT AND REALLY HELP LEVERAGE THAT . COMMISSIONER SILVERS THANK YOU. CHAIR I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND I WANT TO BRING FORWARD THAT WHAT I SAW AND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS A FOCUS ON SAFETY AND I THE CEDAR LAKE ROAD I'VE DRIVEN DOWN THAT AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY CLEAR WHERE THE BIKE LANES ARE. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT CARS TURNING ON AND OFF, WHETHER IT'S A HYBRID OR IT'S REALLY SIMILAR TO THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE BEING IN BETWEEN THE ROAD AND A BIKE PATH OR IN BETWEEN THE ROAD AND A WALKWAY, I WONDER IF THAT WOULD OBSCURE PEOPLE'S VIEW OF PEOPLE WALKING IN THE CROSSWALKS THAT ARE NOT ACROSS THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE BUT ON THE SIDE STREETS? YEAH SO AND ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH BIKES THAT ARE GOING QUITE A BIT FASTER THAN A PEDESTRIAN. SO I THINK THAT WHEN I LOOK AT 86 STREET I'M LIKE I DON'T EVEN SEE BIKE LANES THERE FROM LIKE A VERY QUICK GLANCE HERE SO APPRECIATE THAT. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION AS YOU MAY OR THE FIRST THING WASN'T A QUESTION, IT WAS A COMMENT. CAN I ASK A QUESTION NOW I THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT WHICH OF THESE THREE DESIGNS IS GOING TO ACHIEVE MOST OF THOSE OR BE IF WE DO THAT IT WOULD GET CLOSE TO ACHIEVING MOST OF THEM? YEAH, I MEAN I THINK AS YOU POINT OUT I MEAN I THINK THERE'S ALL ALL POTENTIAL OPTIONS HERE. I MEAN PET BIKE SAFETY HAS BEEN A BIG FOCUS. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY THE ONE OF THE FIRST TWO HERE IS WHERE YOU REALLY NARROW THAT UP AND YOU CONTROL WHERE THOSE CROSSINGS ARE AND IT'S REALLY CLEAR AND YOU CAN PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLANDS WHICH WE'LL SHOW AS EXAMPLES HERE IN A BIT TO MORE DETAILS BUT LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT SO YOU CAN MAKE IT SO PEDESTRIANS THEY MIGHT ONLY HAVE TO CROSS ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC AT A TIME THEN THEY CAN STOP, THEY CAN WAIT AND THEN LOOK OTHER DIRECTIONS. SO THERE'S POTENTIALS FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT. SO I THINK THE PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST TWO HERE WHERE YOU YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARKWAY I THINK THE HIGHEST CHANCE I WOULD SAY TO CHECK MOST OF THE BOXES COMMISSION REASON I THANK YOU CHAIR SO I WAS THINKING WHAT AM I MORE ABOUT WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS STATED EARLIER AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING SAFE CROSSING ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN YOU COMPARED TO COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE US WHERE THERE SOMETIMES DON'T HAVE STOPLIGHTS AND ANYWAYS SO I OKAY SO YES IF WE WERE TO DO LIKE THE 86 MODEL IT WOULD BE LESS DISTANCE FROM EACH SIDEWALK OR CROSSWALK BUT IF WE DID ADD OR IF WE DID THE WAS IT THE 98TH LIKE MODEL WHERE IT'S AN ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE WOULDN'T THAT ALSO HAVE LIKE EXTRA STOPS COULD POTENTIALLY BE ALSO LIKE WOULDN'T IT KIND OF CROSS EACH OTHER OUT? YEAH YOU KNOW DEFINITELY THAT'S A FAIR POINT. YEAH THERE IS AVENUE TO MIRROR THERE IS LOCATION STOP AT BOTH OVERALL THE TOTAL CROSSING DISTANCE IS THE LONGER BUT IT DOES AS YOU POINT OUT SO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO HAVE A POINT IN THE MIDDLE TO STOP OUT SO PERSONALLY IN YOUR PROFESSION I MEAN IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION DO YOU THINK ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER IN TERMS OF ALREADY TICKET KIND OF WAYS THE SAME? I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF DRIVER EXPECTATIONS A DESIGN MORE LIKE ONE OF THESE IS MORE WHAT DRIVERS EXPECT AND THAT'S MAYBE WHERE MORE THEIR FOCUS IS OUR JOURNEY IF YOU CAN ALIGN DESIGNS WITH DRIVERS POTATIONS THAT REALLY HELPS. PEOPLE ARE USED TO LOOKING FOR PEDS BIKES AND CERTAIN LOCATIONS SO THESE DESIGNS I WOULD SAY ARE MORE COMMON VERSUS A DESIGN LIKE THIS I WOULD SAY IT'S IT'S LESS COMMON AROUND HERE SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS CLEAR WHERE PEOPLE ARE ARE LOOKING AND LIKE WITH THIS WIDE MEDIAN IN HERE IF YOU'RE A LEFT TURNER NOW YOU'RE MAKING ALL THIS DISTANCE SO YOU HAVE TO LIKE TRAVEL ALL THIS DISTANCE WHILE YOU'RE STILL LOOKING AT CARS COMING AT YOU. AND IF PEDS ARE OVER HERE THEY HAVE A LOT MORE AREA THAT YOU HAVE LIKE TAKEN AND FOCUS ON WITH GEOMETRY LIKE THIS VERSUS IF IT'S MORE COMPACT LIKE THIS AS WELL AS VEHICLE SPEEDS ON TIMES PEOPLE LIKE SPEEDS BASED ON REALLY WHAT THEY FEEL THEY CAN DRIVE ON A ROADWAY WHEN IT'S TIGHTER IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT MORE UNCOMFORTABLE SO THAT YOU GENERALLY ARE SELECTING SPEEDS ARE SLOWER SO I WOULD SAY LIKE DESIGN LIKE THESE WHERE IT'S IT'S MORE COMPACT I HAS A HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF CONTROLLING VEHICLE SPEEDS AND REDUCING THOSE VERSUS A DESIGN LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'RE MORE SEPARATED, YOU DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC RIGHT BESIDE YOU. SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER KIND OF FACTOR AS WELL. OKAY. SO ALL THE ALL THOSE FACTORS YOU MENTIONED WOULD HAVE A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT THAT WOULD MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT? YEP. THANK YOU FOR THAT. APPRECIATE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON CONFIGURATION? SO YOU KNOW ALL RIGHT. WELL JUMP AHEAD HERE. SO THERE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LANES SO THAT'S BIGGER PICTURE WHAT IS THE CROSS SECTION OF THE ROAD THEN ONCE WE START GETTING INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS OF IT, THERE'S THERE'S MORE DESIGN ELEMENTS HERE. SO BICYCLES IS THE FIRST ONE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO SHOW SOME EXAMPLES OF HERE OF HOW THEY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AND HOW THEY CAN BE USE FACILITIES FOR THEM. SO THE FIRST ONE IS OLD CEDAR AVENUE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS TWO. SO THERE'S THE OFF STREET MIXED USE TRAIL SO PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES CAN BOTH USE THIS TRAIL AS WELL AS THERE'S ON STREET BIKE LANES HERE YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE BIKE SYMBOL HERE SO BIKES CAN BE ON ROAD AS WELL. 86 STREET HERE AS WE JUST POINTED OUT, THIS HAS BIKE LANES AS WELL HERE ON THE OUTSIDE. SO ON STREET WHERE THEY'RE AT THE SAME GRADE, THE SAME ELEVATION THEY'RE NOT BEHIND LIKE A CURB OR A BARRIER OR ANYTHING. SO WE HAVE THOSE OPTIONS AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT SEE HERE LIKE ROAD AGAIN SO WE HAD JUST SHOWN LOOKING MORE AT THOSE SPECIFIC BIKE FACILITIES WHICH YOU REALLY CAN'T TELL I GUESS ON THIS BUT THIS BIKE IS A CYCLE TRACK SO IT'S NOT ON THE SAME SURFACE AS THE VEHICLES ARE. IT'S ELEVATED SIX OR SO INCHES. SO IT'S IT'S LIKE THERE'S A PHYSICAL BARRIER WHERE A CAR WOULD HAVE TO LIKE CROSS THAT BARRIER TO GET ON THAT SAME SAME ELEVATION AS BIKES SO THEY'RE SEPARATED PHYSICALLY AS WELL. THEY'RE NOT JUST ON THE SAME SURFACE AS THE VEHICLES. SO THIS IS ONE ONE WAY WHERE IT'S MEANT TO BE BIKES ARE HEADING BASICALLY IN THE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC ON ONE SIDE AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE HAS THEM COME IN THEIR DIRECTION IN JACKSON STREET IN SAINT PAUL THERE'S A TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK WHICH IS SEPARATED DEDICATE FACILITY FOR BICYCLES BUT IT'S TWO WAYS ON ONE PATH. SO ONE SIDE IS FOR VEHICLES TRAVELING ONE DIRECTION AND THIS ONE'S FOR THE OTHER. SO THESE ARE JUST KIND OF SOME SOME TREATMENTS THAT CAN BE USED FOR BICYCLES VARIES ON STREET VARIES OFF STREET TYPE OF CONFIGURATION. SO CURIOUS AS TO IF ANYONE HAS ANY INPUT ON ANY OF THESE DESIGNS AND ANY INTEREST TO SEE OR NOT SEE SOME OF THESE TYPE OF DESIGNS CARRIED FORWARD INTO THE ALTERNATIVES. I THINK DON'T GET US STARTED HERE. I DID A FAIR AMOUNT OF BIKING ON ON ROAD AND I MEAN IF MONEY WAS NO OBJECT SURE I MEAN OPTIONS THREE AND FOUR HERE ARE GREAT I THINK IN THE TERMS OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY ON THE STREET I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE THAT AGGRESSIVE. I THINK I WOULD BE VERY COMFORTABLE BIKING ON THIS STREET WITH A LESS AGGRESSIVE OPTION. SO OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO ALTHOUGH INHERENTLY PROBABLY LESS SAFE LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED THAT THE KING OF OF BIKE LANES HERE WITH HOW LITTLE TRAFFIC IS ON THIS ON THIS ROAD VISUAL WITH IT I WOULD AS A HEAVY PEDESTRIAN I WOULD ARTICULATE AND I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK BECAUSE I THINK PEDESTRIANS RUN INTO A MAJOR PROBLEM AND THAT THEY FREQUENTLY FORGET TO LOOK THE WAY THAT'S NOT THE THE TRAFFIC THE CAR SIDE AND GIVEN THE SPEEDS THE BIKES ARE COMING OUT I THINK THAT RISK OF BIKE PEDESTRIAN CRASH IS ALSO SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER THAN THE TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK I THINK ANY OF THE THREE I THINK COMMISSIONER CAPTAIN COOK DAN'S POINT ON THE TRAFFIC LEVELS IS IS A GOOD ONE AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE ONE WAY CYCLE TRACK I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FINANCIALLY WORTH IT FOR THE VOLUME THAT WE'D SEE ON THAT ROAD COMMISSION. MOSER SO I JUST I WOULD ONLY LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT I DO AGREE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH THE TRAFFIC VOLUME STATEMENT. BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT IS THERE IS THE TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THE ROADWAY. SO IF WE WOULD CHANGE THAT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY KIND OF DOWNGRADE THE EXPECTATION ALONG THAT ROADWAY. SO I JUST I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. MR. WHITE THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE TWO WAY CYCLE TRACK WAS ALREADY THERE. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IF WE'VE GOT THE ROOM WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO THEN THE FIRST OPTION WHERE WE HAVE THE THE BOTH WHERE WE HAVE THE OFF OFF THE STREET PATH THAT CAN BE USED FOR BIKES AND HIKING AND PEDESTRIANS AND YOU KNOW, GET FOLKS OFF THE STREET MAYBE OR SLOWER BIKERS AND YOUR FOLKS YOU KNOW KIDS THAT ARE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE IN TRAFFIC AND THEN PAINT THE LINES ON THE STRT, USE THE SPACE FOR BIKE LANES, YOU KNOW, GOING BOTH WAYS. IT'S PAINT IT'S NOT DIFFERENT TEXTURE. IT'S YOU KNOW SO THE EXPENSE IS LESS I SHARE COMMISSIONER COOKED IN CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE COST VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD BUT AGAIN I THINK IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE THE RARE LUXURY OF HAVING THE SPACE TO WORK WITH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'D BE A DOWNSIDE TO THE OLD CEDAR AVENUE OPTION. APPRECIATE THAT INPUT. OTHER COMMENTS SEEING THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'LL JUMP AHEAD TO PEDESTRIAN TREATMENTS SO THESE ARE VERY STRATEGIES THAT CAN BE USED TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE OF PEDESTRIANS ALONG THE CORRIDOR. SO THESE ARE FOR CROSSING NOT NECESSARILY GOING ALONG PARALLEL TO THE CORNER. SO ALL ZERO AVENUE AGAIN HERE ON THE LEFT THERE'S THE MIXED USE TRAIL SO THAT CAN BE USED BY BOTH PEDS AND BIKES CROSSWALKS SO MARKING THE CROSSWALK MAKING IT SPECIFYING WHERE THEY ARE. WELL PEDESTRIANS CAN TAG ALONG CROSSING AND MARK CROSSING AS WELL BUT BY DELINEATE IT IT MAKES IT MORE CLEAR AND APPARENT TO DRIVERS AS WELL THAT HEY THERE MIGHT BE PEDESTRIANS HERE ULTERIOR AVENUE ALSO HAS THE REFUGE ISLAND HERE. SO WITH THAT PEDESTRIANS CROSS ONE STRETCH OF THE ROAD AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO STOP HERE WE LOOK AT THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC AND THEN DECIDE TO CROSS SO YOU'RE NOT HAVE TO MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS OF IS IT SAFE TO CROSS OR NOT AT ONE TIME YOU'RE NOT HAVE TO LOOK BOTH DIRECTIONS. YOU'RE LIKE ONE DIRECTION CROSSED AND THEN EVALUATE THE OTHER DIRECTION SO REFUGE ISLANDS IS A BIG ONE. THOSE PROVIDE A LOT OF BENEFITS FOR SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS RFP SO RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASHING BEACON THESE ARE THE TWO YELLOW THINGS ON HERE IF YOU'VE SEEN THESE THESE ARE THE THE LIGHTS THAT ARE FLASHING VERY RAPIDLY AND VERY HIGH INTENSITY LIGHTS. SO THESE ARE THESE ARE ITEMS THAT CAN BE INSTALLED. THEY WERE PUSHED BY ACTIVATED WHERE A PASSENGER IN A BIKE AND HIT IT AND THEN IT FLASHES TO BRING AGAIN MORE VISUAL CUES TO DRIVERS THAT SOMEONE TRYING TO CROSS THE ROADWAY. SO IT'S A STRATEGY TO HELP BRING AWARENESS TO TO PEDESTRIANS FOR DRIVERS CURB EXTENSIONS HERE ON THE RIGHT SO THIS NARROWS UP THE LANE EVEN FURTHER AND IT PUTS THE PADS CLOSER TO WHERE THEY'RE TO CROSS. IT MINIMIZES THE DISTANCE THEY'RE CROSSING OF PAVEMENT LIMITING THEIR EXPOSURE TO VEHICLES. SO THE ELEMENT IS THE DISTANCE IS LIMITED TO THE TIME IT TAKES TO CROSS. SO THESE ARE SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN CONSIDER WITH THE CORRIDOR TO HELP IMPROVE PADS THROUGH THE CORRIDOR. SO CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY DESIGN VOLUNTEER THAT WE'VE SHOWN OR IF THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT YOU'VE SEEN ELSEWHERE THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR . I THINK THAT THE REFUGE ISLAND IDEA IS A GREAT FIT FOR LESS MOBILE CITIZENS OF BLOOMINGTON ARE JT USERS OF THE ROAD. I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE I NEVER KNEW THAT THEY WERE CALLED RAPID RECTANGULAR FLASH. I THINK THAT THEY'RE A GREAT WAY TO GRAB ATTENTION FROM DRIVERS AND NOTIFY THEM ONE'S GOING IN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL A BLOCK FROM MY HOUSE BY TRUCK TRUCK BAR TRACK BALLPARK PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT FOR FOR MY KIDS THE CURB EXTENSION IDEA I SEE A NEED FOR IT BUT I. I SEE A NEED ANOTHER SPACES FOR IT I THINK OUR TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE LOW ENOUGH IF WE'RE CALMING TRAFFIC WITH BUT FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM A ROAD DIET TO GO TO A THREE LANE ROAD AND THEN IT ALSO I DIDN'T ADDRESS THE LAST QUESTION BECAUSE COMMISSIONER WHITE PUT IT SO WELL THAT YEAH I THINK IF WE HAVE THE SPACE LET'S LET'S PUT THE BIKE LANES AND SO THE CURB EXTENSIONS COULD EITHER IMPEDE THE BIKE LANE ON THE ROAD OR SMUSH CYCLISTS CLOSER TO CARS AND SO THAT'S I GUESS MY QUICK SPEECH ON THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MR. SUMMERS THANK YOU, CHAIR I'M MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE RF BEES ARE REALLY AN EXPENSIVE INTERVENTION. WOULD THAT BE TRUE COMPARED TO THE MIXED USE TRAIL CROSSWALK REFUGE ISLAND? OH, I MEAN I GUESS IT DEPENDS. I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC NUMBER. I THINK THEY'RE IN THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF AROUND 20,000 FOR THE SYSTEM IT DEPENDS I WAS IT'S DIDN'T IT'S NOT AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF LIKE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER I THINK A KEY LOCAONS THEY'RE GENERALLY CONSIDERED I WOULD SAY AN INEXPENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE OR AT LEAST RELATIVE TO LIKE IF IT'S BETWEEN THAT OR A SIGNAL OF IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT LIKE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S $500,000 ROUGH BALLPARK. SO LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORDER MAGNITUDE IT'S QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT. SO IT DEPENDS ON I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER OPTIONS AND IF YOU'RE PUTTING THEM IN A KEY LOCATIONS THEY'RE GENERALLY CONSIDERED A LOW COST IMPLEMENT OPTION TO IMPROVE SAFETY WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING AN INTERVENTION LIKE THIS ON A ROADWAY, WHAT IS USUALLY WHAT YOU LOOK FOR AS THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES MOVING? >> YEAH IT DEPENDS ON THE SPEED AND THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS, THE VOLUMES. THE GOOD NEWS IS IF YOU GO TO A THREE LANE THESE PROVIDE BETTER YOU DON'T NECESSARILY PUT THEM ON A FOUR LANE ROADWAY BECAUSE THEN IF ONE CAR STOPS AND THE RECORD DOESN'T SO IT'S REALLY BASED ON THE SPEED. SO I THINK AS PART OF THIS WE'D BE LOOKING TO REDUCE SPEEDS WITH A LOT OF THESE STRATEGIES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY THE THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC MORE SO THE SPEED THAT IT'S GOING AS WELL. VOLUME DOES MATTER TOO BUT I WOULD SAY IT'S THE SPEEDS THAT WHERE YOU'D REALLY BE LOOKING AT HERE. THANK YOU PATRICE. >> THANK YOU CHAIR ARE THE ARE F.B. DEVICES ARE SOLAR POWERED THEY CAN BE OTHER THEY'RE THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE ACTUAL PHYSICAL POWER WITH THEN THEY CAN BE SOLAR POWERED AS WELL. I'D SAY A LOT OF THEM ARE SOLAR POWERED BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO RUN SPECIFIC POWER UNITS TO THEM. SO A LOT OF THEM ARE SOLAR POWERED. OKAY. AND I'M JUST SURPRISED AT THE COST. YOU SAID 20,000 AVERAGE. DON'T CALL ME ON THAT, HUH? YEAH. BUT YEAH, THERE'S I MEAN IT'S ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT AND THAT INCLUDES INSTALLING IT. THERE'S CONTROL UNITS IN THERE THAT WHEN SOME HITS THE BONNET DETERMINES WHAT TO DO AND CONTROLS THE THEM SO. MM HMM. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS HELPING ON A PROJECT WHERE LIKE THEY WERE INSTALLING IT STREETLIGHTS BUT IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT WHERE IT'S SOLAR POWERED. IT WAS LIKE MUCH CHEAPER. SO I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT I KNOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THIS SPECIFIC DEVICE BUT YEAH, JUST COMING DOWN HERE THINKING ABOUT GETTING AMERICAN MISSIONARIES MAYBE MAYBE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON PEDESTRIAN TREATMENTS CIGNA ALL RIGHT. SO WE GET INTO INTERSECTION TREATMENTS RIGHT? SO THIS IS A WAY TO CONTROL PEDS BIKES VEHICLES AT AN INTERSECTION. SO WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT LEAST KIND OF GENERAL CATEGORIES TO CONSIDER HERE. SO SIGNAL SO AS WE DISCUSSED, THERE'S ALREADY SIGNALS OUT THERE SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S CONTROLLED GREEN, YELLOW, RED AND PEDS HAVE WALK WALKWAYS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO STOP SIGNS SO THOSE ARE ALSO PRESENT OUT THERE THAT COULD BE IN THE FORM OF AN ALL WAY STOP WHERE YOU STOP ALL MOVEMENTS OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO INTERSECTION OR IT COULD ALSO BE WHERE YOU'RE JUST STOPPING THE SIDE STREETS AND BLOOMINGTON FERRY ROAD WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THROUGH. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE HAVE TWO FORMS OF ROUNDABOUT WE HAVE THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THE FULL BLOWN SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT WHERE IT'S A BIGGER FOOTPRINT . IT CAN ACCOMMODATE VEHICLES, TRUCKS EVERYONE GOES AROUND THE CENTRAL ISLAND. THERE'S ALSO A MINI ROUNDABOUT WHICH IS A TIGHTER COMPACT FOOTPRINT. IT DOESN'T TAKE UP AS MUCH SPACE KD OF MORE OF AN URBAN TYPE DESIGN AND WITH THIS THERE'S THE CENTRAL ISLAND BUT THAT'S MOUNTABLE SO FOR TRUCKS THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO DRIVE OVER THAT. SO BIG DIFFERENCE IS IN THE THE ROUNDABOUT HERE EVERYONE GOES AROUND THERE'S VEGETATION IN THE MIDDLE NO ONE'S INTENDED TO GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE WHEREAS THE MINI ROUNDABOUT SMALLER OR COMPACT FOOTPRINT SO GENERAL PURPOSE YOUR CARS YOUR IS YOU SEE IN HERE THE IMAGE THEY DRIVE AROUND THIS AROUND THE CENTRAL ISLAND BUT LARGER SO MY TRUCKS WOULD BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IN THEIR TRAILERS WOULD DRIVE THROUGH THE MIDDLE SO THAT'S KIND OF THE KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO I'M SO INTERESTED THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS ON INTERSECTION TREATMENTS AND HOW WE CONTROL PEDS BIKES VEHICLES AT INTERSECTIONS AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. I THINK I'LL GET IT STARTED HERE. FOR ME HEARING A SIGNAL MAY COST AS MUCH AS 500,000 DOESN'T SEEM VALUABLE HERE. ALSO AROUND ABOUT EVERY TIME WE SEE ROUNDABOUTS THEY TAKE UP SO MUCH LAND AND IT'S JUST DOESN'T AGAIN FEEL WORTH IT HERE WITH THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES WE HAVE. SO I THINK I LEAN TOWARDS STOP SIGNS OR MINI ROUNDABOUTS FOR SURE. MOST JUST AS A QUESTION ON THE ON THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE DIFFERENT THE THAT THE DECISION IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE MADE MORE ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE THAN OUR SIDE FOR THESE THINGS. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS, WHAT THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC IS IN WHICH OF THESE IS APPROPRIATE. RIGHT. I WOULD SAY YEAH. I MEAN I WOULD SAY IN THIS LOCATION AND IN THIS CORNER I MEAN I THINK THERE'S IT'S A BIT MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE SENSE TH THE VOLUMES AREN'T CRAZY HIGH LIKE KNOW EITHER A MINI ROUNDABOUT OR A ROUNDABOUT MOST LIKELY WOULD WORK ALONG THE CORRIDOR. SO IF THERE'S OTHER FACTORS OR THERE'S OTHER PREFERENCES WE CAN COUNT FOR THOSE. I WOULD SAY HERE IT'S NOT LIKE A ROUNDABOUT DOES HAVE THE FULL BLOWN ON THERE. IT DOES HAVE A HIGHER CAPACITY. IT CAN ACCOMMODATE HIGHER VOLUMES SO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS YOU MIGHT NEED THAT HERE I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE THAT'S TRULY NEED FROM A CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE. SO I THINK THERE'S A BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY HERE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS IS IT'S REALLY AN ENGINEERING A TRAFFIC COUNT DECISION ON WHICH OF THOSE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IN A ROUNDABOUT A FULL SIZED ROUNDABOUT JUST TO PUT IT IN A FULL SIZED ROUNDABOUT IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED IT'S NOT GOING SURE. YEP. WITH THAT SAID I WOULD AGREE MR. CHAIRMAN THAT THE MINI ROUNDABOUT IS PROBABLY THE THING THAT'S NEEDED IN SOME OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS PARTICULARLY TALKING ABOUT LINDSTROM BUT OTHERWISE THAT YOU KNOW VERY LIKELY THE ROADS ALONG HERE CAN BE CONTROLLED WITH TO WASTE OPS. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, CHAIR STARTING WITH A QUESTION I'M SORRY I KNOW THIS IS COMMENT TIME PIONEER TRAIL IS THAT COUNTY WHERE IT MEETS WHERE WE ELBOW IN OR IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING AND DO I HAVE AN EXAMPLE ON THE OVER HERE RIGHT OVER HERE AND TO THE WEST? YES. YEAH. IS THAT DOES THAT TURN INTO COUNTY ROAD? I KNOW THAT AT AERTAIN POINT IN PERIOD TO COUNTY ROAD OKAY NO THE CITY OKAY GOOD. I WOULD SAY TO GO BACK TO THE QUESTION I'M IN I CONCUR WITH EVERYONE ELSE LIKE STOP SIGNS SHOULD PROBABLY STAY THE RULE GIVEN THE TRAFFIC COUNTS SOME OF THE HIGHER RISK INTERSECTIONS OR HIGHER TRAFFIC FLOW INTERSECTIONS OF MANY ROUNDABOUT MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE BUT TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON COMMISSIONER MUNSTER IF THERE'S A IF THE ENGINEERING PROVES OUT THAT IT'S RECOMMENDED TO GO FULL FOR EXAMPLE PIONEER TRAIL WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE NOT THE INTERSTATE STATE HIGHWAY OR U.S. HIGHWAY 169 YOU KNOW OR I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK THAT THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE IN THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP AND REPLACEMENT OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. AS I KNOW THAT ROUNDABOUTS ARE NOT FREE TO PUT IN BUT IT'S IT'S MUCH LOWER OPERATING COST . APPRECIATE IT. THANKS. OTHER COMMENTS ON INTERSECTION TREATMENT SO SEEING NONE ALL RIGHT SO I GET SO SORRY GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OBVIOUSLY WAS A KEY PART HERE IN TERMS OF THE GOALS AS WELL AS PUBLIC INPUT . SO GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CAN LOOK LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS. SO WE HAVE SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING SO IT'S REALLY THE TYPE OF PLANTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN. WE HAVE LINEAR LANDSCAPING THAT'S LOOKING AT USING MEDIANS WHICH MIGHT ALWAYS BE TYPICALLY CONCRETE FOR SOMETHING THAT NARROW. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT PUTTING VEGETATION IN THERE TO HELP REDUCE THE IMPERVIOUS AREA RAIN GARDENS THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WATER FLOWS OFF THE STREETS INTO A GARDEN AND THEN FROM THERE IT'S ESSENTIALLY TREATING THE WATER QUALITY AND MANAGING THE FLOW OF THE WATER BEFORE IT GETS DOWNSTREAM. AND THEN THERE'S THE MORE TRADITIONAL STORMWATER PONDS WHERE THAT'S RUNOFF AND THEN STORED IN A POND ESSENTIALLY. THEN FROM THERE IT'S TREATED AND RELEASED AT A CONTROLLED RATE DOWNSTREAM. SO THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OF WHAT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CAN LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE CAN TREAT WATER QUALITY AND REALLY MANAGE THAT TO TREAT THE QUALITY OR THE WATER AS WELL AS CONTROL THE RELEASE OF IT DOWNSTREAM. AS WE MENTIONED LAND ELAINE HAS FLOODING SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO UPSTREAM OF THAT SO IF WATER FLOWING TOWARDS THAT IF WE CAN CONTROL IT SLOW IT ALLOWS IT INFILTRATE INTO THE GROUND THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT AS WELL AS BY GOING INTO FACILITIES LIKE THIS IT CAN CONTROL THE RATE AT WHICH IT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY NOT OVERLOAD THE SYSTEMS DOWNSTREAM. SO THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE CAN LOOK AND THINGS TO CONSIDER HERE. I'M SO CURIOUS WHEN WE SAY GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN YOUR MIND THE THINGS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING, WHETHER WE HAVE IT UP HERE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE YOU'VE SEEN THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO CONSIDER AS WELL. I THINK I'LL GET IT STARTED HERE FOR ME ALL OF THE ABOVE ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THIS SLIDE AND I THINK THIS IS WHY I WOULD RATHER SAVE MONEY ON VERY EXPENSIVE BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER YOU KNOW, HUGE ROUNDABOUTS AND STUFF SO WE COULD SPEND MORE MONEY ON ON THIS TYPE OF THING. I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING EVERYTHING ON THE SLIDE HERE I'M I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, CHAIR I'M STARTING A COMMENT WITH THE QUESTION AGAIN ARE WE IN A WATERSHED DISTRICT LIKE NINE MILE CREEK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS AREA? YES, THERE SEEMS TO I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOR THE NEXT STEP TO ENGAGE WITH THEM ON WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND FOR PLANTING SO I'M OUT CREEK IS VERY THOROUGH AND VERY INVOLVED IN ANYTHING WITHIN THEIR WATERSHED AND RANGER YEAH I AGREE WITH CHAIR GUCHT AND ALL THE ABOVE WOULD BE A GOOD THING. SHADE TREES ALONG THE WALKING OR PEDESTRIAN PATHS WOULD BE WOULD BE GREAT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST OVERDOING IS ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER MAINTENANCE BILL FOR THE LANDSCAPING? SO IT'S IT'S A DELICATE BALANCE. THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWER BUT I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. WE SHOULD WAIT. YEAH, I STORMWATER POND MAYBE PUT THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST BUT I THINK THE REST OF THIS IS GREAT. I THINK AS WE REDUCE THE PAVEMENT IN THE AREA REPLACING IT WITH YOU KNOW PERMEABLE LANDSCAPE IS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA YOU KNOW I KNOW RAIN GARDEN IS VERY HIGH MAINTENANCE BUT LOVE THEM BUT THEY'RE VERY HIGH MAINTENANCE BUT YOU KNOW I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THE AREA TO GET MORE SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPING IN THERE IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVE THING. SO APPRECIATE THAT AND SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION EARLIER IS SALT USE WHEN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REDUCE SALT YOU SO THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR WITH IF WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT OUT THERE AS WELL AS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT DESIGNS TREE TREE PLACEMENT AND TRYING TO MINIMIZE SHADOWS ON PAVEMENT SO THEN IT CAN BE PLOWED AND CLEAR NATURALLY. SO THAT IS ALSO ONE OF THE GOALS IN THE KIND OF SUSTAINABILITY PIECE IS REDUCING SALT USE FROM THE IMPACTS THAT THAT HAS TO WATER OF INCREASING THE SOIL CONCENTRATION AS WELL AS THAT AGAIN ANOTHER MAINTENANCE COSTS OF HAVING TO PUT SALT DOWN. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE COMMISSIONER MUNSTER JUST AS A AS A QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM SAID ABOUT SHADE TREES BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WILL TRY TO AVOID CASTING A SHADOW ONTO THE ROADWAY FOR SALT PURPOSES. SO WHERE DOES THAT KIND OF STAND FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT SHADE TREES OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S SORT OF A NO GO BECAUSE OF THE ROADWAY CONCERNS I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO GET INTO I WOULD SAY IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A NO GO. I THINK IT'S LIKE THE PLACEMENT OF THEM LOCATION WHERE ARE WE PUTTING TREES IN RELATIONSHIP TO TRAILS BETWEEN THE ROADS BETWEEN THE ARE THEY BETWEEN THE ROADS AND THE TRAILS ARE THEY ON ONE SIDE AND THAT SO I THINK IT LOOKS AT THE CONFIGURATION OF A NOT NECESSARILY THING WE AREN'T PUTTING TREES ALONG THE CORRIDOR FOR THIS. I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON MORE OF THE NUANCES OF WHAT THE CONCEPT IS AND WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING AT. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S YET ONE OR NO I DON'T THINK THERE LIKE IT'S EITHER YES TO THIS AND NO TO THAT. I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT THEM COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER TO GET TO THAT ANSWER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE FINAL SLIDE HERE OPS WE'VE BEEN HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON EACH OF THESE BUT HAS ANYTHING ELSE COME TO YOUR MIND AS WE'VE TALKED THROUGH? SO THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE HAD EARLIER. SO WE TALKED THROUGH THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. BUT THE FINAL ONE HERE IS WHEN WE COME BACK WITH OPTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED HERE WASN'T CONSIDERED OR DISAPPOINTED TO SEE ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD? SO BEYOND THE CAMPSITE YOU'VE ALREADY PROVIDED WHICH WE APPRECIATE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES TO MIND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO BE COGNIZANT OF AWARE OF AS WE DIVE FURTHER INTO THIS? GOSH REASON I MAY HAVE MISSED IT. I THINK YOU CHAIR I BUT IS THERE ANY WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA I DON'T KNOW WHAT STUDY DONE YET AND I WAS JUST SICK. WE HAVE HEARD FROM ANY BUSINESSES THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE MAILERS AND THAT AND AND THE INVITES BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE SPECIFICALLY HAD ANY ANY BUSINESSES REACH OUT AND PROVIDE INPUT AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BE SURE WE IHINK THAT AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE IDEA OF LET'S CREATE A BEAUTIFUL BOULEVARD THROUGH WESTERN BLOOMINGTON, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND HOW MUCH IT'S USED AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BALANCED WITH THE INVESTMENT THAT IS PUT INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO I APPRECIATE THE I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO TO SHRINK THE PAVEMENT. I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO INCREASE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS TO INVEST IN AND BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN AREAS. I LOVE THE SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT OF IT. I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO ALSO BE IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT IT'S A SECONDARY ROADWAY AND AND NOT A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA WHEN WE CONSIDER WHAT WE'RE INVESTING IN IT. AND SO I LET'S BE ECONOMICAL AS WELL SO APPRECIATE IT WISHES WHILE I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT FOR EXAMPLE NEIGHBORS HAD WITH CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE ROAD, I THINK OVERALL MY OPINION IS THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH THE COST OVERALL AND I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED THAT WE AS A COMMISSION WEREN'T ASKED IF IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS EVEN CONSIDERING YOU KNOW AND SO MAYBE I'M PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE I PROBABLY I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT DISAGREES. BUT YEAH, THAT'S MY OVERALL THOUGHTS. MAYBE I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. MR. COOL IS IS THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ROAD THAT IS FORCING OUR HAND IS THE PAVEMENT AT THE END OF HIS LIFE? ARE WE DOING WORK ALREADY? WHY ARE WE TAKING THIS ON? YEAH SO THE PAVEMENT IS AT THE END OF ITS LIFE SO IT IS NEED A REHAB SO THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE WAS LAST YEAR UM TWO YEARS AGO CAME TO THE COMMISSION TO GATHER INPUT AND THE DECISION TO HOLD OFF ON THAT REHAB SO INSTEAD OF REHAB IN THE FOUR LANE ROADWAY LOOK AND SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY BE NEEDED OUT THERE SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING UP PAVEMENT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED THAT THEN NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO YEAH, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO THAT THAT DISCUSSION AND DECISION WAS MADE TO INSTEAD OF PUTTING MONEY INTO PAVEMENT THAT MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED LOOK AND SEE WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE AND CONSIDERED HERE. THANK YOU MR. GHOST MYSTERIES YEAH THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION I JUST TO KIND OF SUPPORT WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO IF YOU KNOW THE IF THE TRAFFIC COITIONS ARE RELATIVELY FINE AND THE SAFETY OR CRASH REPORT IS FINE EXCEPT FOR THAT SPECIFIC FERRY IN BLUE TO FERRY LINDSTROM AND THE EXISTING PAD AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE IS FINE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S MAYBE A FLOODING ISSUE ON THE SOUTH PART AND WE DON'T KNOW THE COST. I DON'T THAT THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IT. AND AND AGAIN I UNDERSTAND LIKE THE CONCERNS THAT NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE WHO DO BUSINESS OR DRIVE THROUGH HERE HAVE BUT YEAH THAT'S MY $0.02 THERE WHY THANK YOU THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HE'S THE OTHER COMMENTS ON THE FIRST QUESTION HERE OKAY. ALL RIGHT SO REALLY FROM HERE NEXT STEPS SO HERE WE ARE FIRST FOR JULY SO WE'RE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST WE ARE GOING TO SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION NEXT WEEK AND THEN CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF THE MONTH TO GIVE THE SAME PRESENTATION, GATHER INPUT FROM ALL THE MEMBERS HERE FROM THERE WE'LL TAKE THAT INPUT AND REALLY SYNTHESIZE IT FROM WHAT WE HEARD AND THEN PUT THAT TOWARDS DEVELOPING ALTERNATIVES. SO AUGUST WILL BE HEAVY ON THE ALTERNATIVE. SO TAKING ALL THE INPUT AND REALLY PUTTING PEN TO PAPER AND SAYING WELL THIS IS WHAT COULD BE DONE AND START REALLY SEEING SEEN WHAT WE CAN DO OUT THERE SEPTEMBER WE'RE PLANNING TO PRESENT THE ALTERNATIVES TO THE PUBLIC TO GATHER INPUT AND THEN ALSO IN THE SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TIMEFRAME IDENTIFY THE RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVE BASED ON INPUT FROM THE TAC WHICH IS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEN RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION HERE WHICH THEN THOSE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GOING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ACCEPTANCE IN OCTOBER. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BUSY COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE PLAN TO GO FROM WHERE WE'RE AT NOW OF GATHERING INPUT TO THEN PUTTING PEN TO PAPER, DEVELOPING ALTERNATIVES TO PRESENT THEM AND ALSO WE COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU MR. GILLIS. I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD HERE AND I THINK IT'S A QUESTION FOR MS.. VERRONE IF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING AT HOME AND THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS NOW WHAT'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE COMMENT? CAN THEY STILL DO THAT? COMMISSIONER COOK AND AT THIS POINT WE HAVE CLOSED THE SURVEY ON THE LET'S TALK PAGE BUT THERE STILL IS AN OPPORTUNITY ALL MY CONTACT INFO IS ON THERE SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO STILL PROVIDE SOME EARLY INFORMATION THEY CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO USE THAT SITE SO IT'S BLM DOT AND SLASH P F R STUDY THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST PLACE JUST TO CONTINUALLY SEE UPDATES ON THE STUDY ON THE PROGRESS, THE OPTIONS, THE NEXT PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SHARING BACK THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR MAIN TOOL FOR SHARING INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO RECEIVING INFORMATION BACK. MR. JOHNSON I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THE WEBSITE IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. VERY GOOD MR. COOLIES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION. WE DO APPRECIATE A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE THE INPUT WITH THAT THEN WE WILL MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE JUNE 26TH 2025 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES. SO WITH A HEAVY TURNOVER ON OUR COMMISSION HERE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I WILL ASK FOR A VOTE OF APPROVAL OF OUR DENIAL AND THEN A VOTE OF HOUSE DONATION. SO IF YOU WERE NOT IN PARTICIPATION IN THAT MEETING YOU MAY WISH TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM. SO I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE 26TH MEETING MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO MOVED WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 26TH MEETING MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED ABSTAIN SAY THAT MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO WITH THREE ABSTENTIONS WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATE I'LL TURN THAT TO MR. JOHNSON AND PERHAPS MR. JOHNSON I COULD FIRST ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ON A WEEKLY BASIS FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR AND SO YEAH THE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PROVIDE YOU A SNAPSHOT AS TO WHAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU IN UPCOMING MEETINGS. SO CERTAINLY WE AIM TO DO THAT EVERY TIME. WE ALSO CAN PROVIDE OTHER POLICY OR ORGANIZATIONAL UPDATES AS PART OF THIS ITEM BUT MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF ME OR SEEK ANY FUTURE INFORMATION THAT I CAN BRING BACK BEFORE YOU SHOULD NEED ME. MR. JOHNSON IS IT FAIR TO SAY THIS SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? WE SHOULDN'T BE GOING BACK TO A PREVIOUS ITEM. ACTING CHAIR CORRECT. AND THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH. SO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA? THESE ARE ITEMS NOT PLANNED FOR THE EVENING'S AGENDA. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROCEED HERE. FIRST JUST WANT TO WELCOME THE NEW MEMBERS TO THEIR FIRST MEETING. GOOD DISCUSSION. SO THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND WILLINGNESS TO VOLUNTEER AND PUT YOURSELF FORWARD. SO LOOKING AHEAD TO THE NEXT TWO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS THAT'S JUST MY ONLY UPDATE FOR THE EVENING ON THE JULY 24TH PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED. THE FIRST IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO RE RE GUIDE 8630 XERXES AVENUE SOUTH ST MARK'S CHURCH SITE FROM QUASI PUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR A 13 LOTS SUBDIVISION IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT. THE SECOND ITEM ALSO PUBLIC HEARING AS THE ITEM FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. SO THAT APPLICATION INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, A REZONING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS AS WELL AS A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT. AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM SCHEDULED ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING AS A CITY CODE AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE CITY'S POLICIES ON AIRPORT PARKING. SO BRINGING ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU AT THE JULY 24TH MEETING FOR THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING THE MEETING AFTER JULY 24TH WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING PLANNED FOR LINCOLN AND BLOOMINGTON VARIANCES TO REDUCE PARKING LOT AND FREESTANDING SIGNS SETBACKS THERE ALONG FOR 94. THE SECOND ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING RELATED TO THE ONGOING EFFORT TO UPDATE THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN. SO THAT WILL INVOLVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THEN THE THIRD AND FOURTH ITEM ARE ORGANIZATIONAL OR PROCEDURAL ITEMS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FIRST, AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT'S DONE EVERY AUGUST OF THE YEAR. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATIONS OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU WANT TO ADD? CERTAINLY STAFF CAN BE A RESOURCE AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS AND THEN FINALLY THE ELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION OFFICERS. SO CURRENTLY THE CHAIR POSITION IS TECHNICALLY VACANT . ACTING CHAIR KIRKTON IS IN THE VICE CHAIR ROLE BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING YOURSELF FORWARD TO SERVE AS ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S OFFICERS CERTAINLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND I CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE PROCEDURES IF INTERESTED. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO BRING UP ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING? GOOD REASON. I THINK I FORGOT THE EXACT TERM BUT LIKE THE DUAL MEETINGS WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS I'D BE COOL TO SEE ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH ITEMS LIKE TODAY WITH MAYBE THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BUT YEAH THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THAT YES MR. JONES ANYTHING NO NO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT AND AGAIN WE DO COLLABORATE QUITE A BIT WITH OUR HRA COLLEAGUES AND PORT AUTHORITY COLLEAGUES SO I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE MOST NATURAL POINTS OF COLLABORATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION BUT CERTAINLY SUSTAINABILITY COULD BE A OPPORTUNITY AS WELL DEPENDING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER. SO WITH OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING PROJECTS WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO KIND OF BUILD THAT CONNECTION AND DO THE SCHEDULING THAT'S JUST THE TOUGHEST PART BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT FOR THE RIGHT SUBJECT FOR THE RIGHT TOPICS. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON ANY OTHER COMMENTS ? SEE NONE. THAT CONCLUDES THE JULY 10TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. >> GOOD NIGHT