AND >> WE ARE RECONVENED. THE PLANO HOTEL UPDATE. DR. SMITH. GOOD EVENING. IT'S MY PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE TO GIVE YOU THIS BRIEF UPDATE. MY NAME IS RON SMITH, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PLANO EVENT CENTER SITE, 2000 EAST SPRING CREEK PARKWAY, AT THE CORNER OF JUPITER ROAD ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RECREATION CENTER. THE SITE IS 41 ACRES OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THE EXISTING EVENTS CENTER ENCUMBERS FOUR ACRES. THE PROPOSED HOTEL SITE IS APPROXIMAELY FIVE ACRES. THE CENTER WAS OPENED IN 19960. IT HAS APPROXIMATELY 86,000 SQUARE FEET OF RENTABLE SPACE AND HOSTS 300 EVENTS PER YEAR. THE VENUE MISSES OUT ON POTENTIAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF A HOTEL. THE CITY HAS SOUGHT A HOTEL SINCE THE FACILITY OPENED IN 1990. IN 2018, THE CITY LISTED THE PROPERTY. THE LISTING RESULTED IN ONE PROPOSAL FROM TIRGO, LLC. ON JUNE 25TH OF THAT SAME YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH TIRGO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOTEL. IN JULY OF THAT YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN, RESULTING IN THE NEED TO REWORK THE HOTEL SITE PLAN TO CONFORM WITH ENVISION OAK POINT. ON MARCH 17TH OF 2020, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE UPDATED LEASE AGREEMENT, WHICH NOW INCLUDES A PARKING GARAGE IN ADDITION TO THE HOTEL. THIS SLIDE SHOWS WHERE THE HOTEL AND PARKING GARAGE WILL BE LOCATED IN RELATION TO THE EVENT CENTER. AND THIS SLIDE HERE SHOWS HOW ROAD ALIGNMENT IS BEING RECONFIGURED IN THE 41 ACRES TO CONFORM WITH THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN. AS PART OF THE LAND LEASE AGREEMENT, THE CITY IS UNDERTAKING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, INCLUDING STREETS AND UTILITIES, TO PREPARE THE SITE FOR THE HOTEL AND THE PARKING GARAGE. CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE HOTEL AND THE GARAGE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER, WITH NO COST TO THE CITY. THIS SLI SHOWS THE ROADS TO BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE CITY IN SUPPORT OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FULL 41-ACRE SITE, INCLUDING THE HOTEL AND THE PARKING GARAGE. THESE ROADS CONFORM WITH THE ENVISION OAK POINT PLAN. THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT INCLUDES ACCESS ROADS AND UTILITIES, INCLUDING A NEW SEWER LINE THAT WILL CONNECT TO AN EXISTING LINE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH TIRGO STIPULATES SOME KEY ELEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE HOTEL, SUCH AS THE HOTEL WILL BE A NAME BRAND AND MEET INDUSTRY REQUIREMENTS TO MERIT A FOUR-STAR CLASSIFICATION. THE HOTEL WILL OFFER AT LEAST 175 ROOMS AND A FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT OFFERING A FINE DINING EXPERIENCE. THE PARKING GARAGE WILL HAVE SPACE FOR AT LEAST 800 VEHICLES. THE HOTEL'S FLAG OR BRAND WILL BE UNFURLED BY THE DEVELOPER AT THE APPROPRIA TIME, HOPEFULLY THIS SPRING. THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS ON THE PROJECT -- JUST LAST MONTH ON OCTOBER 19TH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OPENED BIDS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 27TH TO AWARD THE PROJECT TO A RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIVE BIDDER. THIS WILL BE CITY COUNCIL'S NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS PROJECT. THE ROADS MUST BE E BEFORE THE HOTEL CAN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK HAS A -- EXCUSE ME, A 200 WORK DAYS REQUIREMENT. ASSUME THAT THE PROJECT KICKS OFF AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THE ROADS COULD BE SUFFICIENTLY COMPLETE TO ALLOW THE HOTEL'S CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN SOMETIME ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW. ASSUMING AN 18-MONTH CONSTRUCTION WINDOW FOR THE HOTEL, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE AROUND EARLY SPRING OF E THE HOTEL'S COMPLETION. THAT CONCLUDES MY BRIEF UPDATE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE INFORMATION I'VE SHARED WITH YOU TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU, RON. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. IS THERE ANY ITEM A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE? NEXT ITEM IS COUNCIL ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION ON FUTURE AGENDAS. OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND RETURN AT 7:00. ♪ >> WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY REVEREND, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE, LED BY AMERICAN LEGION, POST 321 COLOR GUARD AND CUB SCOUT 1 1259, HARRINGTON, WELLWELLSTON AND HUGHSTON. >> COLOR GUARD HALT. LEFT FACE. >> WE PRAY, HEAVENLY FATHER. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE WITH US HERE THIS EVENING. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL CITY OF PLANO IN WHICH WE LIVE. WE THANK YOU FOR THE LOVE AND CARE YOU GIVE TO OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND OUR CITY AND ALL OF US HERE TONIGHT. WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS ON ALL OF THE DECISIONS THAT OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS MAKE TONIGHT TO SERVE YOU AND THE PEOPLE HERE OF PLANO. GIVE THEM WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF YOUR PEOPLE COINUE TO GIVE US ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE YOU AND TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR YOU IN THIS SPECIAL CITY. WE PRAY IN THE POWERFUL NAME OF JESUS. AMEN. >> PRESENT ARMS. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE. >> ORDER. ARMS. PRESENT ARMS. >> BE SEATED. >> COME UP HERE, AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE. >> YOU DROPPED ONE. >> DID I? OKAY. COME ON UP HERE, GUYS. COME ON. RIGHT HERE. PICTURE. >> YEAH. YOU CAN STAND RIGHT HERE. THERE YOU GO. YOU GUYS LOOK GOOD. ALL RIGHT. >> SMILE. >> EVERYBODY SMILE. >> YOU GUYS DID GREAT. THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. >> SO TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF READING SOME PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'RE SO PROUD TO DO. FIRST PROCLAMATION IS THE MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 6TH THROUGH 10TH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD OUR CHIEF MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE, PAUL KAREN MUNICIPAL ADMINISTRATOR, AND ANY OTHER JUDGES OR COURT CLERKSHAT ARE HERE. COME ON DOWN. YOU NEED TO COME DOWN. [ LAUGHING ] I KNOW. MICHELLE, COME ON DOWN. [ LAUGHING ] >> MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK, NOVEMBER 6TH THROUGH 10TH, 2023. WHEREAS PRESCRIBED BY THE 86TH TEXASEGISLATURE IN HOUSE RESOLUTION 1658, MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK IS A WEEK DEDICATED TO APPRECIATING THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT TEXAS MUNICIPAL COURTS MAKE TO THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WHEREAS THE PLANO MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGES, COURT CLERKS AND OTHER STAFF DEMONSTRATE COMMITMENT TO THE STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE SET BY THE CITY OF PLANO AND IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE CANNONS OF JUDICIAL CONDUCT THROUGH THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, EXPERTISE, AND FAIRNESS AND SERVICE TO ALL. AND WHEREAS IT IS MOST APPROPRIATE THAT WE REQ SRECOGNIZETHE ROLE THE PLANO MUL COURT PLAYS IN PROTECTING QUALITY OF LIFE, DETERRING FUTURE CRIME AND PROVIDING A FAIR FORUM FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, DO PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 6TH THROUGH 10TH, 2023 AS MUNICIPAL COURT WEEK IN PLANO. AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN EXTENDING APPRECIATION FOR THE EXEMPLARY SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE DEMONSTRATED BY THE JUDGES ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPPORT STAFF OF THE PLANO MUNICIPAL COURT. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANKS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. >> Mayor Muns: OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION, I'M HONORED THAT ON NOVEMBER 11TH IS VETERANS DAY, A DAY TO HONOR ALL WHO SERVED. SO I'D LIKE TO READ TE VETERANS DAY PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS VETERANS DAY IS A NATIONAL AND STATE HOLIDAY THAT SERVES AS AN IMPORTANT REMINDER FOR AMERICANS TO PAUSE AND RECOGNIZE OUR COURAGEOUS MILITARY MEMBERS WHO HAVE HONORABLY SERVED IN ANY BRANCH OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES; AND WHEREAS PLANO HAS EXHIBITED OVERWHELMING PRIDE FOR ALL WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE PAST, IN THE ARMY, MARINES, NAVY, AIR FORCE, COAST GUARD, MERCHANT MARINES AND IT FEELS FITTING AND APPROPRIATE TO PRAISE THEIR SELF-LESS SERVICE, SACRIFICES, AND ACT OF BRAVERY THAT ALLOW M MMERICANS TO ENJOY THE ABUNDANCE OF FREEDOM TODAY AND EVERY DAY; AND WHEREAS ON THIS VETERANS DAY, PLANO RECOGNIZES ALL PAST MEMBERS OF OUR ARMED FORCES WHO HAVE PLACED OUR NATION'S SECURITY BEFORE THEIR OWN, CREATING A DEBT THAT WE CAN NEVER REPAY, WE OFFER THIS TRIBUTE AS OUR THANKS FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO DUTY AND SERVICE THAT SERVES AS AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL AND PROMOTES LEGACY OF PATRIOTISM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOHN MUNS, YOR THE CITY OF PLANO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, 2023 AS VETERANS DAY IN PLANO. AND I DO THEREB ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN RECOGNIZING THE MANY SACRIFICES MADE BY OUR VETERANS AND EXTEND OUR HEARTFELT APPRECIATION FOR THEM ANSWERING THE CALL TO DUTY AND DEFENDING OUR GREAT NATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOULD ALL OF OUR VETERANS PLEASE STAND AND BE RECOGNIZED? [ APPLAUSE ] >> Mayor Muns: OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS HUNGER AND HOMELESSNESS AWARENESS WEEK, NOVEMBER 11TH THROUGH THE 18TH. I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD LAURIE, DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, SNET, HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES MANAGER, SANDRA, COMMUNITY SERVICE GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR, AND DANIELLE, HOMELESS SERVICES COORDINATOR. WHEREAS EACH YEAR, THE WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING IS RECOGNIZED AS HUNGER AND HOMELESSNESS AWARENESS WEEK, A TIME TO ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ISSUESF HUNG D WHEREAS THIS PERIOD WILL HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFICULTY AND LONELINESS OF THOSE WITHOUT A HOME AND LIVING IN POVERTY AND INSPIRE RESIDENTS TO HELP, INCLUDING VOLUNTEERING IN PLANO'S ANNUAL HOMELESS CENSUS. AND WHEREAS THE ANNUAL HOMELESS CENSUS WILL TAKE PLACE IN PLANO ON JANUARY 25TH, 2024, AND RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE BY COLLECTING PACKAGES AND VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME ON THE NIGHT OF THE W THEREFO, I, JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 11TH THROUGH THE 18TH, 2023 IS HUNGER AND HOMELESSNESS AWARENESS WEEK IN PLANO. AND I DO THEREBY ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO AID THOSE EXPERIENCING HUNGER AND HOMELESSNESS. THANK YOU, LAURIE. >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MAYBE ASK SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION TO JOIN US DOWN FRONT? IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT HUNGER AND HOMELESSNESS AWARENESS WEEK HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS. IT STARTED AT VILLA NOVA UNIVERSITY. AND IT HAS GROWN TO BEING RECOGNIZED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS HEAR IS HOW CAN WE HELP. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO HELP PEOPLE THAT ARE UNSHELTERED OR HUNGRY. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS WE'D LIKE TO MAKE TO YOU. ONE IS WE HAVE A TON OF LOCAL NONPROFITS THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE BE HOUSED AND TO FEED THEM. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED AND TO TRY AND SERVE WITH THEM OR SUPPORT THEM. THE OTHER THING WE'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PROCLAMATION IS THAT WE PROVIDE HOMELESS KITS. AND SO WE DO CARE PACKAGES, BOTH HYGIENE AND FOOD PACKAGES. YOU CAN GO TO THE BACK OF THE ROOM TONIGHT IF YOU'RE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND GET A LIST OF HOW TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR COMMUNITY GROUP, NEIGHBORS WHATEVER. IF YOU WERE NOT HERE INHE BUILDINGITH US THIS EVENING YOU CAN ALSO FIND THAT INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, planoneighborhoods.org. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF OUR COALITION MEMBERS FOR COMING DOWN FRONT. AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS WEEK. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GET IN HERE. [ LAUGHING ] >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> SO, PLANO'S COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH DEPARTMENT WORKED WITH THE PLANO M SERVICES UNIT AND LifePath SYSTEMS TO CREATE A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT SERIES. THE SERIES HAS RECEIVED NUMEROUS STATE AND NATIONAL AWARDS. AND SINCE THE YEAR 2000, SUICIDE MORTALITY RATES IN TEXAS HAVE INCREASED NEARLY 37%. LifePath SYSTEMS IS THE DESIGNATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AUTHORITY FOR COLLIN COUNTY. RECOGNIZING THE IMPACT OF SUICIDEN SURVIVING FAMILY MEMBERS, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, LifePath ADDED COUNSELING AND FAMILY SUPPORT PROGRAMS. LifePath SELECTED FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD USED ITS ADULT COUNSELING SERVICES TO BE HIGHLIGHTED TO SHOW THAT ANYONE CAN BE A VICTIM OF SUICIDE. SUICIDE HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THOSE LEFT BEHIND. AND THERE IS HOPE AND HEALING FOR THOSE LEFT BEHIND TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO SURVIVING FAMILY AND FRIENDS. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY ANY OF THE VIDEOS, BUT WE'RE DISPLAYING A LINK TO WHERE YOU CAN WATCH THE SERIES. THE PSAs WERE VERY EFFECTIVE, WITH A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VIDEO VIEWS AND INCREASED CONTACTS FROM THE COMMUNITY RELATED TO THE PROGRAMS. THE CITY SUBMITTED THE SERIES FOR A NUMBER OF AWARD COMPETITIONS. AND THOSE AWARDS RECEIVED WERE AWARD OF DISTINCTION FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF TELECOMMUNICATION OFFICERS AND ADVISERS, FIRST PLACE PROGRAMMING AWARD FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF TELECOMMUNICATION OFFICERS AND ADVISERS, THE SAVVY AWARD FROM THE CITY/COUNTY COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING ASSOCIATION, AND THE TAMI AWARD FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL INFORMATION OFFICERS. TODAY, WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE WITH US REPRESENTATIVES FROM LifePath SYSTEMS, THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VICTIM SERVICES UNIT AND THE CITY'S COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH DEPARTMENT. WOULD YOU ALL JOIN ME DOWN HERE, PLEASE? I'M GOING TO HAND THE MICROPHONE TO DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, SHAUNA HALEY, WHILE I PRESENT SENIOR VIDEO PRODUCER EVAN WITH THE AWARDS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU COUNCIL. WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT THIS IMPORTANT PSA SERIES HAS RECEED NATIONAL ACCLAIM. AND JUST AS DIRECTOR, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO SAY I'M PROUD OF EVAN. THIS IS OUTSIDE THE NORM OF THE TYPICAL VIDEO WE PRODUCE. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO OUR STRONG PARTNERS. SO, SPEAKING OF PARTNERS, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU DEANNA, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR LifePath SYSTEMS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR HELPING US WITH THIS. OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE THE HEART AND SOUL OF THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. AND WE'RE SO, SO GRATEFUL THAT YOU PARTNERED WITH US IN THIS ENDEAVOR. WHEN WE GOT THE CALL SAYING WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE SUICIDE RATE IN PLANO, THAT CANL ANSWERED THE CALL SO QUICKLY AND SO BEAUTIFULLY. SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN ALLOWING US TO TELL YOUR STORY. SHOUT IT FROM THE ROOFTOPS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT SURVIVING LOOKS LIKE. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LifePath SYSTEMS SO YOU GET THE GIST OF WHO WE ARE. WE ARE A UNIT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDING ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES THROUGH FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL FUNDS TO INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL OR SUBSTANCE USE CONDITIONS, INTELLECTUAL DEFICITS AND DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS. WE SERVE OVER 18,000 INDIVIDUALS ANNUALLY WHO HAVE EITHER MEDICAID OR ARE UNINSURED WITH LOW INCOMES AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES ALL OVER COLLIN COUNTY IN OUR MULTIPLE OFFICES, INCLUDING ONE IN PLANO. AND IN HOMES AND COMMUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK. AND WE ALSO WORK CLOSELY WITH SCHOOLS, WITH HOSPITALS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND OTHER PROVIDE TE THE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THEIR INDEPENDENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. I DO WANT TO PASS THE MICROPHONE OVER TO KYANIT TO KE'ANTE, BECAS THE EXPERT. >> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING US. THE LOSS TEAM IS OUR LOCAL OUTREACH TO SUICIDE SURVIVOR PROGRAM. MOST OF THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE AND ON THE VIDEO ARE SUICIDE SURVIVORS. THEY'VE LOST SOMEONE TO SUICIDE. AND THEY HELP US EVERY DAY ANSWERING THE CALL TOUICIDE THAT. WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO HAVE THEM HERE WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I'M GAIL, SUPERVISOR FOR OUR VICTIMS SERVICES UNIT AT THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ONE OF OUR VICTIM ADVOCATES, JESSICA, WAS AN INTEGRAL PART OF PUTTING THIS VIDEO TOGETHER. JESSICA HAS WORKED FOR THE CITY OF PLANO SINCE 2012 AND HELPED CREATE THE VICTIM SERVICES UNIT. SHE HAS A PASSION FOR HELPING INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY CRIME. JESSICA STRIVES TO FIND WAYS TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND RELA IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON HOW INDIVIDUALS W CAN SEEK AND RECEIVE HELP. SHE HAS BEEN AN AMAZING ASSET TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TO VICTIMS IN THIS COMMUNITY. I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO JESSICA SO SHE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR VICTIM SERVICES UNIT. >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR BEING HERE AND MAKING THIS POSSIBLE. I STUMBLE ACROSS SEEING SO MANY SUICIDES IN PLANO. I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO HELP THAT NOT HAPPEN ANYMORE. SO JUST REALLY QUICK, MY NAME IS JESSICA. THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT DECATED TO PROVIDING IS COMPREHENSIVE COMPASSIONATE SERVICES TO SUPPORT VICTIMS, FAMILY MEMBERS AND WITNESSES IN THE AFTERMATH OF A VIOLENT CRIME. WE HAVE STAFF THAT'S FLUENT IN SPANISH AND ARABIC. IF ANYONE NEEDS US, FEEL FREE TO OUTREACH TO US. WE SERVE OVER 4500 VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES ANNUALLY. OUR UNIT WORKS CLOSELY WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH COORDINATOR, NICOLE, WHO'S RIGHT NEXT TO ME. AND SHE CONNECTS INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND SUPPORT. IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU LOVE IS IN NEED OF SERVICES, PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR UNIT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A POLICE REPORT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE OUR HELP OR SERVICES. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THERE WE GO. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SO OUR LAST ITEM, I HAVE SOME OATHS OF OFFICE TO GIVE TONIGHT. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD THE -- DAVID. OH. [ LAUGHING ] DAVID, COME ON FORWARD. I JUST BUTCHERED YOUR NAME. WITH THE HERITAGE COMMISSION, THE MULTICULTURAL OUTREACH ROUND TABLE, DONNA HARTMAN. AND PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY JAN RUGG. ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, DAVID. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. IF YOU'LL JUST RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND DO WE HAVE IT? OH. OH. THANK YOU. HEY. SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. YES. ALL RIGHT. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS AND WILL PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY, AND YOU FURTHERMORE SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED, OR PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED NOR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR VALUABLE THING OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT AS A REWARD TO SECURE YOUR APPOINTMENT, SO HELP YOU GOD? CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST? >> COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH THIRTY (30) TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AND WE DO HAVE THREE SPEAKERS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ONE IS CYNTHIA MENCHILA. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO -- THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO, THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS. MY FAMILY MOVED TO PLANO IN THE EARLY '70s. AND I WAS IN ZIGLER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I WENT TO PLANO SENIOR HIGH. SO I'M OLD. BUT I STARTED RIDING HORSES AS A VERY YOUNG PERSON. I'M SURE I DRS CRAZY. SO THEY GAVE ME RIDING LESSONS. SO THEN I GOT A HORSE. THEN I TOOK MORE LESSONS. I'VE ALWAYS HAD HORSES IN EAST PLANO. I GREW UP SHOWING, TRAINING, EVERYTHING. I'M 58. I STILL RIDE. I STILL TRAIN. I STILL LEARN EVERY DAY. I'M ON THE TRAILS ONCE IN A WHILE, PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS I USED TO BE. I'M NOT AS CRAZY AS I USED TO BE EITHER. I RIDE ALL OVER. AND YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT, BUT EAST PLANO IS FULL OF EQUERIAN AND A LOT OF THEM JUST LIKE ME AND EVEN OLDER THAN ME TOO. YOUNG, OLD, WE HAVE YOUNG ONES COMING UP. BUT THE TRAILS IN PLANO ARE GREAT. WE BRAG ABOUT THEM. WE LIKE TO HAVE OUR FRIENDS TRAILER THEIR HORSES TO OUR PLACES SO THAT WE CAN RIDE TOGETHER. WE SPEND OUR DAYS TAKING CARE OF OUR HORSES. WE SPEND OUR MONEY IN PLANO. WE BOARD. WE USE VETS. WE GAS UP. WE EAT. WE SHOP. WE BUY SUPPLIES. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY IN PLANO. WE HELP PAY TAXES IN PLANO. AND WE LOVE IT. WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF WE DIDN'T LOVE IT. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO A LOT OF EQUESTRIANS THAT CAME TODAY. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ENTI ENTIRE EQUESTRIAN COMMU. THIS IS SOME OF US. NOT ALL OF US COULD MAKE IT. AND THERE ARE SO MANY MORE, PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR OWN PLACES, THAT HAVE THEIR OWN HORSES. WE PUT SMILES ON PEOPLE'S FACES WHEN WE'RE RIDING IN THE PARK. WE ARE WITH CYCLISTS, SKATERS, MOMS WITH STROLLERS. WE'RE WITH EVERYBODY. WE CART. WE HAVE A PERSON WHO DRIVES HER HORSES IN THE PARK. WE LOVE IT. AND WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK AROUND PEOPLE IN THE PARK. I ALSO GREW UP WITH SOMEBODY, BY THE WAY, WHO GREW UP AND IS STILL THERE ON THE OLD LOS RIOS GOLF COURSE. I ASKED, DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE MAKING TROUBLE? ARE WE TEARING THE COURSE UP? DON'T RIDE ON THE COURSE. HE LOVES SEEING PEOPLE RIDING OUT THERE. HE NEVER SEES -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> ANYBODY OUT THERE MUCH. BUT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE HORSES OUT THERE MORE. YOU GUYS WON A NATIONAL GOLD MEDAL AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL RECREATIONAL PARK ASSOCIATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL QUALIFICATIONS TO WIN THAT AWARD, INCLUDING PROMOTION OF HEALTHY AND ACTIVE LIFESTYLES CONSERVATION INITIATIVES, AND EQUITABLE ACCESS. [ BUZZER SOUNDING ] >> WE WOULD LIKE EQUITABLE ACCESS. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED ON AN AGENDA FOR LOS RIOS PARK. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARTY HOLLAND. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M MARTI HOLLAND. I'VE CALLED PLANO MY HOME FOR OVER 45 YEARS. MY HUSBAND ROGER AND I MOVED HERE FROM NORTH CAROLINA AS NEWLYWEDS IN 1978 AND RAISED THREE CHILDREN WHO GRADUATED FROM PLANO ISD. I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS CITY. IT WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. I'M ALSO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE AMENITIES PLANO OFFERS. A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO I RETIRED FROM EMPLOYMENT AND IN 2018 WAS ABLE TO BUY MY HORSE. AN ANIMAL I LOVE TO CARE FOR AND RIDE, PARTICULARLY IN THE PARKS. IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE OF MINE TO TRAIL RIDE SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK THROUGH DESIGNATED SECTIONS OF OAK POINT AND BOB WOODRUFF PARKS. NO TRAILER OR TRUCK NEEDED. PEOPLE OFTEN SMILE WHEN THEY SEE MY HORSE AND SOMETIMES STOP ME TO TAKE A PICTURE, ASK TO PET HER, AND/OR HAVE A CONVERSATION, USUALLY CENTERED ON HORSES. AS CYCLISTS, RUNNERS, WALKERS, AND PEOPLE ON SCOOTERS HAVE A DESTINATION IN MIND WHEN THEY SET OUT, SO DO HORSEBACK RIDERS. ONE OF MY FAVORITE DESTINATIONS HAS BEEN LOS RIOS PARK AND THE POCKET OF WOODS AT THE SOUTH END. IT IS A LOVELY PLACE TO RIDE AND I RARELY SEE ANYONE THERE EXCEPT LAWNMOWERS ONCE IN A WHILE. I WAS UWARE AND SADDENED TO HEAR THAT THIS UNDERUTILIZED PARK WAS OFF LIMITS TO EQUESTRIANS. THE MAP YOU HAVE IS OF THE FUTURE PLANS FOR LOS RIOS PARK POSTED ON THE PLANO PARKS WEBSITE, MINUS THE RED AND YELLOW MARKINGS. AS THE CITY'S PARKS CONTINUE TO EXPAND TO ENRICH THE LIVES OF ITS POPULATION, MY HOPE IS EQUESTRIANS ALSO CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE EXPANSION. THE PARK IS EASILY ACCESSED FROM A CURRENT EQUESTRIAN AREA TO THE NORTH. WE H ASK FOR A CORRIDOR TO REACH THE WOODS AT THE SOUTH END WHICH BY THE WAY HAVE ALSO BEEN DISCOVERED BY NON-EQUESTRIANS. THE YELLOW LINE SUGGESTING SUCH A ROUTE IS THE WAY WE HAVE RIDDEN THROUGH THE PARK FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS. PLANO RESIDENT DOTTIE HAS LIVED ON LOS RIOS PARK SINCE 2013, WHEN IT WAS STILL A GOLF COURSE. SHE'S WITH US TONIGHT UP THERE. SHE'S RAISING HER HAND. DOTTIE WAS A PLANNED SPEAKER TONIGHT, BUT SHE HAS A SORE THROAT. CLOSE TO A YEAR AGO WE M DOTTIE IN THE PARK AND LONG STORY SHORT SHE NOW RIDES WITH US ALMOST WEEKLY. TWO DIFFERENT NEIGHBORS OF DOTTIE'S, RANDY AND MARY, ARE VERY DELIGHTED TO SEE EQUESTRIANS AND ARE CONFUSED AS TO WHY A SIGN PROHIBITING HORSES LOS RIOS PARK IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AND SUITABLE AREA FOR EQUESTRIANS. I HOPE WE CAN BE INCLUDED IN ITS FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THE LAST SPEAKER IS DENISE HAMILTON. >> Y'ALL KNOW I CAN TALK. [ LAUGHING ] >> HI. FIRST OF ALL, THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR SERVICE. I APPRECIATE YOU, ALL OF YOU. I'M DENISE HAMILTON AND I'M PART OF THIS WONDERFUL EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY. IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. I FOUND MY TRIBE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND WE JUST WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE. WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THE PLANNING OF LOS RIOS PARK. I LE IN THE TRAILS OF GLENNWOOD AND I PURCHASED MY HOUSE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A FIELD BECAUSE HORSES WOULD COME BY THERE ALL THE TIME. I HAD HORSES RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND COWS ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO NO HORSES. WHY? BECAUSE BIG SIGNS POPPED UP SAYING, NO HORSES ANYMORE. I'M LIKE, WHY? IT'S A BIG, OPEN FIELD. AND AS MARTI SAID, NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER NO HORSE SIGN WHERE WE USED TO RIDE. WE'VE BEENIDING THERE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE STOP FOR PICTURES. WE PUT SMILES ON PEOPLE'S FACES. PEOPLE LOVE SEEING US THERE. AND NOW, NO HORSES, AGAIN. WE JUST WANT A SEAT AT THE TABLE. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. JUST LIKE MARTI POINTED OUT, WE WANT TO BE PART OF THE PLANNING OF LOS RIOS PARK. SO, THANK YOU. OUR HORSES DON'T BITE YOU. WE DON'T KICK, YOU KNOW. OUR HORSES ARE TRAINED. WE JUST WANT A SEATT TH TABLE. THAT'S IT, OKAY? >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] > Mayor Muns: WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT AND MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD IN THAT REGARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> Mayor Muns: MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> CONSENT AGENDA -- THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BECTED UPONN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PROVIDED. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 8-0. NEXT ITEM. >> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO FIFTEEN (15) MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE (5) MINUTE REBUTTAL, IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THIRTY (30) TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE (3) MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS: THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER 1, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023-003 TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NO. 2015-5-2, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, SO AS TO REZONE 99.0 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LEGACY DRIVE AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-62-COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT; DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM CHRISTINA DAY, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. AND I AM HERE TO PRESENT THIS ZONING CASE TO YOU, CASE 2023-3. IT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE 99 ACRES FROM COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT TO CREATE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE SAME COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT-BASED ZONING. SO, THIS IS A MAP OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE IT IS CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT. AND SURROUNDING THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTIES ARE ALSO COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION TO THE WEST YOU'LL SEE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT 65 CENTRAL BUSINESS 1 WHICH IS BETTER KNOWN AS LEGACY TOWN CENTER OR THE SHOPS AT LEGACY. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. YOU CAN SEE PARKING GARAGES ON EITHER END OF A CENTRAL OFFICE BUILDING. ALSO OFFICE BUILDINGS EXTENDING TO THE EAST OFF OF THE PRIMARY OFFICE BUILDING. THE REQUEST IS TO PROPOSE A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SITE. AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RETAINING THE EXISTING BASE ZONING. AND THE PRIMARY PURPOSE HERE IS TO ADD MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL USE ALLOWANCE TO THE PROPERTY. THAT INCLUDES RESTRICTIONS IN THE PROPOSAL ALONG WITH THAT USE ALLOWANCE. SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS INCLUDE PHASING. IT WILL REQUIRE SEVEN ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, A CERFICA OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE PRIMARY OFFICE BUILDING, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR A NEW 375,000 SQUARE FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY. THOSE WILL BOTH BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION PERMIT FOR MID-RISE UNITS OR A HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY. ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS. IT IS LIMITED TO 775 UNITS OF MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE DESIGN STANDARDS INCLUDED RELATED TO THE RESIDENTIAL USE. THERE ARE ALSO DESIGN STANDARDS RELATED TO MEETING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES REQUIRE PRESERVATION OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING CENTRAL TO THE EDS HEADQUARTERS. AND ALSO OVERALL IT REQUIRES 9.N EXHIBIT THAT'S ADOPTED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. SO, THIS EXHIBIT IS INTENDED TO SHOW THE USE MAKEUP OF THE SITE PER THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE ZONG CASE. SO YOU SEE THE HOTEL AT THE CORNER OF LEGACY AND PARKWOOD BOULEVARD. MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL UNITS EXTENDING SOUTH ALONG PARKWOOD BOULEVARD. THOSE ARE ON PARKING DECKS. THE CENTRAL OPEN SPACE TO THE EAST OF THE MID-RISE MULTIFAMILY. DRAINAGE AND DETENTION TO THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE AT THE CORNER OF TENNYSON AND PARKWOOD. RETAINING SOME PARKING DECK THERE AT THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE HAS NEW MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS, BOTH AT THE NORTH AND SOUTH END. AND THEN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS REMAIN AND ARE REUTILIZED. THE OPEN SPACE -- THIS IS A SAMPLE OF THE OPEN SPACE EXHIBIT. IT'S 9.5 ACRES IN THE GREEN AND BLUE. YOU SEE A SYSTEM OF TRAILS IN RED. AND THERE'S A DETAIL OF SOME OF THE, KIND OF, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN ON THE EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET. THE YELLOW ON THE NORTH END COULD BE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE. IT ALSO COULD BE DEVELOPED. SO THAT'S KIND OF A FLEXIBLE SPACE AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY. HOW DOES THIS SHAPE UP WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS IN THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER FUTURE LAND USE MAP CATEGORY. WE DID -- BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO LEGACY AND TOWN CENTER AND THE URBAN ACTIVITY CENTER, PROVIDE AN ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE NATURE OF THE UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THE HOTEL AND MID-RISE. SO BOTH OF THOSE ARE PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. SO YOU CAN SEE THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER DOES NOT MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, MIX OF USES, CHARACTER-DEFINING ELEMENTS OR RGM1. BUT DOES MEET OTHER PRIORITS, OTHER MAPS SUCH AS THOROUGHFARE PLAN, BIKE PLAN, PARKS MASTER PLAN, HERITAGE PLAN, DUE TO THE REFERENCE WITHIN THE PD TO PRESERVING THE PRIMARY BUILDING ON CAMPUS AND OTHER REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICIES. SO, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CONFLICTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS PROPOSAL WILL REQUIRE FINDINGS IN ORDER TO GAIN APOVAL. THOS FOR ARE PREPARED AND READY SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO USE THEM. REGARDING FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE THREE RESPONSES WITHIN 200 FEET. ONE IN SUPPORT AND TWO IN OPPOSITION. YOU CAN SEE THAT DID NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD FOR A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. AND CITYWIDE WE RECEIVED 47 UNIQUE RESPONSES. WE ALSO HAD FOUR DUPLICATE RESPONSES FOR A TOTAL OF 51 RESPONSES. AND THEN ONE OF THOSE WAS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PLANO AND IT WAS IN OPPOSITION. SO, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CASE WITH A VOTE OF 6-0. AND AGAIN, I HAVE NOTED THAT FINDINGS ARE REQUIRED. AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANKS CHRISTINA. >> THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION. >> I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. GO >> GOOD EVENING. MR. CITY MANAGER, MADAM DEPUTY ITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS FRANK, PRESIDENT OF NextPoint DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND THE LEAD ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS GREAT EDS CAMPUS. MORE IMPORTANTLY TUGH, I'M A 43-YEAR RESIDENT OF PLANO. AND I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE. VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE AND BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS SITE. AND FROM A NON BUSINESS STANDPOINT, BEING A RESIDENT, I HAD THE GREAT PLEASURE OF BEING INVOLVED WITH ROSS PEROT IN MY EARLY DAYS AND SAW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TRANSPIRE. WE OWNED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF LAND HERE. PROBABLY WISH WE STILL OWNED A LOT OF IT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT TO BRING THIS BACK TO LIFE AS THE MOST ROBUST LIFE SCIENCE CENTER IN THE UNITED STATES IS BOTH A PRIVILEGE AND AN INCREDIBLE CHALLENGE FOR ME, WHICH WE'RE UP TO. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY PUT THIS PHENOMENAL FACILITY BACK INTO USE. THERE'S SOME REALLY INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT IT. THE UNIQUENESS OF THE FACILITY IS THE FACT THAT YOU CAN LITERALLY GO FROM AN INCUBATOR IN THE STARTUP COMPANIES ALL THE WAY TO DEVELOPING YOUR DRUGS. AND THAT IS SO UNIQUE AROUND THE COUNTRY -- BOSTON, SAN DIEGO, RALEIGH, SAN FRANCISCO. WE HAVE NOT FOUND A PROJECT THAT CAN GO FROM SOUP TO NUTS IN TERMS OF ITS ABILITY TO BRING YOUNG COMPANIES IN AND CREATE THESE LARGER COMPANIES THAT MANUFACTURE THEIR PRODUCTS HERE IN PLANO. SO, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAK WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP HERE? AND WE'LL MAKE THIS RELATIVELY BRIEF. >> DO WE HAVE A CLICKER? >> IT'S TOUCH? GO AHEAD. YOU FIGURE THAT ONE OUT. >> SLIDE FORWARD. GOT IT. >> OKAY. HERE IS A LETTER THAT I WROTE BACK IN JUNE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE DONE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH. ONE OF THE KEYS TO THE PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS WE'RE NOT PROPOSING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT EXIST RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER IN THE LEGACY ASSOCIATION. AND WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS WITH THEM. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. WHAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO IN BRINGING THIS FACILITY BACK TO LIFE IS REAL CREATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS. SO, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PHENOMENAL PIECE TO THIS THAT WE'RE IN SUCH AN ECO ZONE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS IS A LETTER I PENNED. HERE IS THE 91-ACRE SITE. YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS, HOW IT IS, AND HOW IT'S LAID OUT. THE ADDITIONAL PIECES TO THE 91 ACRES ARE ON THE EASTERN SIDE, THE TWO THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION FACILITIES, AND ON THE WESTERN SIDE, THE 775 UNITS OF APARTMENTS AND THE 300-ROOM HOTEL. I DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUILD THESE APARTMENTS, IT IS NOT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS LAND. BUT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF JOBS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. IT'S PROBABLY THE LOWEST LEVEL FROM AN INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT TO BUILD APARTMENTS THERE. IF WE COULD BUILD MORE MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, PRODUCTION FACILITIES, IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO US ECONOMICALLY. BUT WE REALLY FEEL IN ORDER TO HAVE THE CAMPUS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE -- AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS -- I'M A RESIDENT OF PLANO. APARTMENT OU OCCUPANCY IS VERY HIGH. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BUILD THAT AT THE RIGHT TIME. WHAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH IN TERMS OF HOW THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED AND THE PIECES OF THAT. HERE IS A VIEW OF THE WESTERN SIDE WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THIS NINE-ACRE PARK THAT'S GOING TO LEAD INTO THE GRAND HALL. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT -- EVERYONE'S DRIVEN HERE AT SOME POINT. WE'RE ENCLOSING THAT AREA BETWEEN THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE, WHICH IS A DRIVE-THROUGH RIGHT NOW. AND WE'RE MAKING THAT KIND OF THE GRAND HALL THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CENTERPIECE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING INSIDE THEUILDING. AND SO LEADING OUT TO THE PARK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A DRAMATIC FEEL. AND WE'RE REALLY COMFORTABLE. IT'S GOING TO BE A NINE-ACRE PARK, WHICH IS A NICE-SIZED PARK. IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE ONLY REAL SECURITY AND LIMITED ACCESS IS GOING TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PRODUCTION WILL BE DONE. THAT'S WHERE THE PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURERS WILL BE AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT QUITE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. BUT EVERYTHING ON THE WESTERN SIDE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO COME, TO MEET. IT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE BEACON. I CALL IT THE GOD POD, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY TELL ME MAYBE I SHOULD CALL IT THE BEACON, BUT IT'S THE GOD POD. SO, IT'S LIT UP AT NIGHT. AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN UNBELIEVABLE LANDMARK THE WAY THAT WE HAVE KIND OF PLANNED THIS. THE CRB PEOPLE WHO ARE THE NUMBER 1 ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURAL FIRM IN LIFE SCIENCE IN THE WORLD, THEY'VE HAD THEIR A TEAM ON THIS. WE'VE DONE A REALLY NICE JOB OF THIS. HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF IT. HERE'S ONE OF THE PRODUCTION FACILITIES. THIS IS CALLED THE CURTAIN WALL. THIS GLASS THAT YOU PUT IN THERE REALLY DRESSES UP A TILT WALL INDUSTRIAL BUILDING. WHEN YOU GO INTO THESE MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS YOU THINK YOU'RE IN AN OPERATING ROOM. EVERYBODY'S IN WHITE SUITS. THIS IS ABOUT AS CLEAN AS ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE EVER WITNESSED. AND FROM THE EXTERIOR SIDE, BEING THAT IT IS AILT WA BUILDING, WE'RE DRESSING IT UP WITH THE CURTAIN WALL. AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO LOOK NICE FACING OUT FROM THE SITE. SO, THE PROJECT PHASING. WHY DON'T YOU GO THROUGH THE PHASING. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NETTA, I AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. CHRISTINA, CRO YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL. AS ALWAYS, WE REALLPPRECIATE YOU ALL'S HELP. WITH THAT SAID I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT PHASING. THE PROJECT IS BROKEN OUT INTO THIS SPECIFIC 91 ACRES, THREE PHASES. PHASE ONE YOU WILL SEE ON YOUR SCREEN IS GOING TO BE THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING SOUTH GARAGE. THE ADDITION OF A THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION OR MANUFACTURING BUILDING. AND ADDITIONALLY THE RENOVATION OF THE TWO BOTTOM PIECES OF WHAT WE CALL THE MAIN CENTRAL BUILDING. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED DIRECTLY IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE. IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE OPEN SPACE THAT YOU ALL SAW IN THE RENDERINGS. WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS PINK COLOR WILL BE PART OF PHASE ONE. IT WILL ALSO BE THE IMPROVEMENTS OF SEVEN ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. PHASE TWO WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE BLUE/PURPLE COLOR. IT WILL BE THE REMAINDER OF OUR MAIN CENTRAL BUILDING THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHAT I PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED. THE TWO WINGS THAT ARE DIRECTLY GARAGE AND AN ADDITIONALRKING MANUFACTURING BUILDING LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THIS SITE. AND OUR LAST PHASE WILL BE WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, WHICH WILL BE OUR THREE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, A HOTEL AND ITS PARKING GARAGE. >> SO, IN THE TOTAL PLAN, YOU'RE YOU'RE GNG T BE REDEVELOPING-- 1.6 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT SIT ON THE GROUND TODAY. THEN AN ADDITIONAL 750,000 SQUARE FEET OF MANUFACTURING THERAPEUTIC PRODUCTION. SO JUST ON THE SITE ALONE, THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 2 MILLION, 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET JUST ON THE 91 ACRES. NOW HERE'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS. WE'VE DONE TRAFFIC STUDY AFTER TRAFFIC STUDY. WE'VE PRESENTED IT ALL. THE DENSITY AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ABOUT 50% OF WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING ALLOWS US TO DO FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, FROM AN OFFICE STANDPOINT, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. THE LIFE SCIENCE DENSITY IS MUCH LESS. STILL, YOU KNOW, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS, BUT THE DENSITY ON THE N 91 ACRES IS ABT 50%. SO, WE PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO JAM UP THAT WHOLE SIDE. WHAT ROSS DEVELOPED PROBABLY IS TWICE FROM AN OFFICE CAMPUS STANDPOINT DENSITY THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. SO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? >> YEAH. WITH THAT SAID, IN DISCUSSION WITH DENSITY, A LARGE PORTION WILL BE OPEN SPACE. IT WILL BE ACTIVATED. HERE'S A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS SHOWING HOW WE WILL BE PROPOSING PEDESTRIAN PATHS, LOTS OF LANDSCAPING. JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE NORTHERN PORTION. ANOTHER VIEW OF OUR OPEN SPACE AREA THAT HAS BEEN THOUGHTFULLY LAID OUT. AND THAT SUMMARIZES OUR PRESENTATION. AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> YES. AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, GUYS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >>iccidelli:HANK Y.IARDELLI. WE'VE PREPARED ALTERNATE LANGUAGE THAT IS MORE STRINGENT THAN WHAT THE P&Z APPROVED REGARDING MAKING SURE THAT THIS COMES TO FRUITION, THAT IT'S A LIFE SCIENCES USE AND THAT THE PHASING IS EVEN MORE ROBUST THAN WHAT THE P&Z APPROVED. AM I CORRECT IN UNDERSTANDING Y'ALL ARE AGREEABLE? >> WE'RE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT. LUCY BANNON AND STAFF HAVE WORKED ON THIS AND LUCY, I'M CORRECT IN AS ASSUME THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE NOW. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU FOR CONFIRMING THAT. >> Mayor Muns: SHELBY. >> Williams: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FRANK. WHEN I FIRST HEARD WHAT WAS PLANNED FOR THE EDS CAMPUS I WAS EXCITED. AND I DID MY HOMEWORK. I RESEARCHED LIFE SCIENCES PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND LOOKED AT WHAT MADE THEM SUCCESSFUL, WHAT MADE A SUCCESSFUL BLEND OF BUSINESS AND RESEARCH. AND I ONLY HAVE TWO CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL. THE FIRST IS THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL. NOW, SUCCESSFUL LIFE SCIENCE PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY, MANY ARE ATTACHED TO A UNIVERSITY. THAT'S NOT AN OPTION HERE, WHICH ONLY LEAVES A RESEARCH HOSPITAL. WHO'S GOING TO RUN THAT RESEARCH HOSPITAL? >> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE AN OPERATOR YET. AND WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING ON THE 65 ACRES OF LAND THAT CAPITAL ONE OWNS THAT'S THE MIDDLE PIECE BETWEEN THE 22 ACRES THAT WE OWN, THE OTHER 22 AND THE 99. SO, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH CAPITAL ONE. THERE'S A FEW ISSUES THAT EXIST THERE IN TERMS OF DRAINAGE. WE'VE TALKED TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS DOWN AT U.T. SOUTHWESTERN AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT BEING INVOLVED HERE IN SOME FASHION. WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN DOWN TO HOW AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A RESEARCH HOSPITAL. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SOMEWHERE IN THE PLAN. IT'S NOT IMPORTANT IN PHASE ONE, THAT'S FOR SURE. BUT WHENEVER WE THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT TO HAVE A RESEARCH HOSPITAL THERE WOULD THEN CREATE WITHOUT QUESTIN THE MOST ROBUST MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTRY. AND SO WE HAVE PLANS FOR IT, BUT SO WE'VE TALKED TO U.T. IN PHASE SOUTHWESTERN, WE'VE TALKED TO THE MAYO CLINIC. ALL OF YOUR BASIC PLAYERS THAT YOU THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO TALK TO, I'VE BEEN DIRECTLY INVOLVED WITH. BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE PREPARED YET TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO TIE DOWN THIS PIECE OF LAND. >> Williams: WITHOUT THE UNIVERSITY, I FEEL THAT THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL, BASED ON THE OTHER PARK I'VE LOOKED AT WOULD MAKE OR BREAK THE SUCCESS OF THE ENTIRE PLAN. SO THAT IS A CONCERN OF MINE. THE SECOND IS THE APARTMENTS PROPOSED THERE. I LOOKED AT HOUSING AT THE LIFE SCIENCES PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND I AGREE IT'S A NECESSARY COMPONENT. BUT IN REVIEWING THE PACKET AND THE P&Z MEETING, I BELIEVE THAT THESE APARTMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE RESERVED FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CAMPUS. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. WE'RE OPENING THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC. WE THINK THAT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA. BUT THEY'LL OBVIOUSLY HAVE AN ABILITY TO COME IN AND BE ABLE TO LEASE THOSE. >> Williams: WELL, MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT -- YOU MENTIONED THIS UP FRONT -- IS THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE ABSOLUTELY VITAL TO HOUSE THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE. HOWEVER, WITH 775 APARTMENTS, EVEN IF EVERY ONE HAS AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S ONLY 2.5% OF THE PROJECTED 31,000 EMPLOYEES. WHICH IS BARELY A DENT. NOW, SECOND, EVEN WITH THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS THAT SO YOU RECEIVE THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BEFORE YOU GET THE BUILDING PERMIT, IF THE JOBS ARE THERE FIRST THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY HAVE THE JOBS WILL HAVE FOUND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO LIVE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO INCUR THE PAIN OF MOVING JUST TO MOVE A MI CLOSER TO WHERE THEY'RE WORKING. IF THE APARTMENTS WERE BUILT FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, THEN YOU CITED THE HIGH DEMAND FOR HOUSING IN PLANO. THOSE ARE GOING TO GET FILLED UP BY ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY WORKING WITHIN FIVE MILES. AND SO BY THE TIME THE JOBS COME IN THOSE PEOPLE -- MOST OF THEM WON'T BE ABLE TO FIND APARTMENTS ON THE CAMPUS, THEY'LL BE LOOKING ELSEWHERE, JUST AS ANYBODY ELSE SO I'M NOT SEEING HOW THE APARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO SUBSTANTILY SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THE CAMPUS. >> RESPECTFULLY, I I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE. THERE ARE HOW SANDS AND HOW SANDS OF APARTMENTS HERE. THE BIG ISSUE WE HAVE WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN PHASE BY PHASE BY PHASE, SO ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE BY DAY ONE. AS WE START TO BRING IN COMPANIES AND BUILD OTHER PHASES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISION. I'D LIKE NOT TO OPEN THOSE APARTMENTS AND START BUILDING THEM UNTIL WE HAVE TO. BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CALCULATED GAUGE IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE OCCUPANCIES, HOW MANY UNITS ARE OUT THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS VERY SCIENTIFICALLY. TO ANSWER ANOTHER QUESTION THAT YOU HAD OR A COMMENT THAT YOU MADE, THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL WILL BE A REAL ADDITIVE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE WIN OR LOSE OF THE 91 ACRES THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING IN PHASES 1 AND 2. THOSE COMPANIES WANT TO BE IN NORTH TEXAS FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS. TAXES, QUALITY OF LIFE, HOUSING. THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IN BOSTON, IN RALEIGH, IN SAN FRANCISCO, IN SAN DIEGO, WE'RE GOING TO BECOME A GATEWAY BETWEEN THE COASTS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO END UP A COASTAL EXPERIMENT. THERE ARE GOING TO BE ROBUST LIFE SCIENCE CENTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY AND WE THINK WE HAVE THE BEST BUILDING AB LOCATION. SO THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL THOUGH IMPORTANT, AND I THINK YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS, BUT IT'S NOT THE BE ALL END ALL. WHEN WE BUILD IT AND HOW WE BUILD IT IS STILL BEING DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'S A BIG ECONOMIC COMMIT. SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT ALL THAT. I WOULD DISAGREE ENTIRELY THAT THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE IS BASED ON THE HOSPITAL. WE'RE TALKING TO ALL THE USERS IN THE MARKET. WE HAVE THE TOP MARKETING GROUPS IN THE WORLD ON THIS. I COULD BE SIGNING LEASES TODAY IF WE WERE COMPLETED. >> Williams: I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. REGARDING THE APARTMENTS, YOU CITED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF JOBS ALREADY BEFORE THE APARTMENTS ARE BUILT, SO EVEN IF YOU ARE LAYERING IT ON, YOU'VE GOT NEW COMPANIES MOVS CREATED. YOU OPEN UP THE FIRST -- THE BUILDING FOR THE APARTMENTS. EVEN IF YOU ARE LAYERING IT ON, CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR ME IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING HOW A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THOSE APARTMENTS WILL ACTUALLY GO TO EMPLOYEES OF THE CAMPUS? >> WELL, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE UNWISE OF US AND I THINK THERE WOULD BE CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE CITY STAFF THAT WOULD THINK THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA IF WE RESERVED THESE JUST FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE INSIDE THE TEXAS RESEARCH CORRIDOR. THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT TO ME, IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO AGAIN, OUR POSITION IS YOU HAVE THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THE OCCUPANCY LEVELS ARE HIGH AND WE DON'T SEE THEM COMING DOWN ANY TIME SOON, ESPECIALLY BASED ON INTEREST RATES. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THESE INTEREST RATES, A YOUNG COUPLE THAT'S GOING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO BUY A HOUSE, THEIR PAYMENT IS TWO TIMES -- OR TWICE WHAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 15 MONTHS AGO. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3.75% INTEREST RATE AND NOW MORTGAGES ARE 7.5, 7.7 5%. WE OWN A MORTGAGE COMPANY. SO WE FEEL THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE IMPORTANT. THE STAGING OF THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY SMART ABOUT HOW IT'S STAGED, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT DO WE RESERVE IT JUST FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> Williams: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS. >> YES, SIR. >> I'M SORRY, FRANK, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT IN RESERVING THE APARTMENTS FOR THE EMPLOYEES DOES NOT SOUND RIGH ITL RIGHT. CAN YOU SORT OF ELABORATE ON THAT? I'M NOT FOLLOWING THAT PART. >> YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO CLOSE OUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC FROM BEING INVOLVED HERE. WE'RE OPENING UP A BEAUTIFUL PARK THAT'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO EVERYONE. SO TO BUILD APARTMENTS AND SAY THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT COULD LIVE NEXT TO THIS PARK AND BE THERE ARE RELATIVELY HIGHLY PAID PEOPLE THAT WORK INSIDE THIS FACILITY, WE JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. AND I THINK THERE'S MANY PEOPLE ON THE CITY STAFF THAT WOULDROBAY AEE WITH US. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. BUT BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING THERE THAT ARE COMING THERE ARE REALLY GOING TO HAVE BETTER KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN TERMS OF WHEN THE LEASING WILL START, WHEN THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO OPEN. WE CERTAINLY FEEL THAT IT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, IF I HAD ANOTHER 200 ACRES OF LAND, MAYBE WE WOULD BUILD MORE APARTMENTS, BUT WE DON'T. WE'RE ON A SITE THAT REALLY IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY DENSITY TO LIFE SCIENCE, THIS IS KIND OF AN ADDITIVE THAT WE FEL THAT WE NEED 9. DOES IT SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM? PROBABLY NOT. >> I GUESS TO FOLLOW THAT LOGIC, IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY TO HAVE THE APARTMENTS ON THAT SITE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT DEDICATED TO THE EMPLOYEES FOR THE LIFE SCIENCE. SO THE ONLY REASON WHY THESE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ARE BEING BUILT IS JUST BECAUSE. >> NO, NO, NO. >> I'M NOT FOLLOWING THAT. >> IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE. WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR MARKET SPRINGFIELD -- STUDIES. APARTMENTS COME AND OPEN UP AND CLOSE UP EVERY DAY. WE HAVE TO GAUGE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DENSITY NOW OR LACK THEREOF OF EXISTING APARTMENTS BASED ON HOW MANY COMPANIES WE'RE NOW GOING TO BRING IN IN PHASE 1. IN PHASE 1 WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING BUILDING THESE APARTMENTS. OUR STUDIES TELL US THERE'S ENOUGH APARTMENTS IN THE VICINITY. WHEN WE GET TO PHASE 2 AND PHE 3, WE'VE DETERMINED WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING. AND ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S MARKETPLACE THAT A LOT OF THESE YOUNG EXECUTIVES, A LOT OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE AREN'T GOING OUT NOW AND BUYING HOUSES WITH INTEREST RATES TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY ARE AT. IF IT EVER GETS DOWN TO WE CAN FIND A BETTER USE AND WE HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION WE DON'T NEED THE APARTMENTS, I'LL BE BACK IN HERE. BUT RIGHT NOW EVERY STUDY THAT WE'VE DONE SAYS 775 APARTMENTS APPEARS TO BE THE RIGHT NUMBER THE WAY THAT WE'VE NEGOTIAT IT. >> Tu: SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AT THIS POINT, MULTI-FAMILY IS NOT NECESSARY UNTIL YOU ARE FURTHER INTO YOUR PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT. AT A LATER DEVELOPMENT TIME THAN THIS MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS WILL BECOME NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE MORE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COMING IN. >> COUNCILMAN TU, WHAT I'M ACTUALLY SAYING IS THIS. IS THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TO GET THIS DONE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE ZONING AT WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE TO DO IT TO BUILD THESE APARTMENTS AND THE HOTEL. THE HOTEL IS VERY IMPORTANT. NOT IN PHASE 1, BUT IT'S IN IMPORTANT IN PHASE 2 AND 3 BECAUSE FROM A CONVENTION STANDPOINT, FROM A MEETING ROOM STANDPOINT, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THERE. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IS THAT WE'RE TAKING WHAT WE THINK IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE REALLY NEED, GETTING IT APPROVED AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SOME SOUND DECISIONS ABOUT WHEN WE BUILD IT, HOW WE BUILD IT, BUT WEEED IT IN THE LAND PLAN BECAUSE COMPANIES WANT TO KNOW. COMPANIES LIKE THERMAL FISHER WANT TO KNOW THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL HOUSING ON THE SITE. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. >> Smith: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE LAST MEETING WE HAD TABLED IT TO GIVE PLANNING STAFF TIME TO GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH LANGUAGE TO MODIFY THE -- I GUESS THE PLAN NOW THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE 946 OF OFFICE SPACE AND THE , THAT THE APARTMENT PHASES WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, AND I HEARD IT, BUT CHRISTINA, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE ORDINANCE, AT LEAST IN OUR PACKET. WE HAD ASKED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC STIPULATION THERE THAT THIS 946,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE WOULD HAVE TO BE LIFE SCIENCES OR HEALTH CARE-RELATED FACILITIES. AND I DON'T SEE THAT. AND THE OTHER WAS MANUFACTURING WOULD BE LIFE SCIENCES MANUFACTURING. >> YES. >> LUCY BANNON, HEAD OF CORPORATE AFFAIRS. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT WAYS TO REFERENCE LIFE SCIENCES AND RESTRICT THE USE CROSS THE -- ACROSS THE CAMPUS AND CAME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE IN THE LATEST DRAFT THAT CLEARLY OUTLINES SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBERS AND QUANTIFIES THAT DESCRIPTION. TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE R&D IN OFFICE BUILDINGS IS A HAER. GENERAL, EXISTING ORDINANCE LANGUAGE DOESN'T APPLY TO THE NUANCE. AS THE LIFE SCIENCE COMPANY GROWS, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED MORE LAB SPACE, THEY HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE NEEDS, LEGAL, ET CETERA. SO THEIR OFFICE SQUARE FOOTAGE GROWS. RESTRICTING THE USE THERE MIGHT REVENT COMPANIES FROM GROWING IN THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO AND KEEPING THEM IN PLANO. ANOTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE, TALKING TO CITY STAFF, THEY MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, WE, YOU KNOW, WANT TO PROVIDE SOME RESTRICTION THAT WOULD PREVENT A BIG TECH COMPANY FROM COMING IN AND TAKING A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF SPACE. I STOPPED THEM THERE SAYING I UNDERSTAND THAT EXAMPLE, BUT THERE'S A CONCEPT IN LIFE SCIENCE INDUSTRY OF CONVERGENCE WHERE TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN ONE INDUSTRY, FOR INSTANCE, TECH, ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE APPLICATION IN LIFE SCIENCE SPACE THAT CAN ACCELERATE INNOVATION. AI IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. YOU ARE SUDDENLY SEEING A LOT MORE INTERACTION BETWEEN ADJACENT INDUSTRIES. WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO RESTRICT THAT FROM HAPPENIG BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE PREVENTING INNOVATION IN THE WAY THIS PROJECT IS NOT INTENDING TO. AND SO AGAIN, AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE, WE CAME UP WITH A LOT OF INSTANCES WHERE WE COULD SEE THE ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT THOSE TYPE OF FACILITIES INADVERTENTLY PROVIDING RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO DEVELOPMENT IN LONG TERM. ENSURING THE -- ENFORCEABLE ON THE MANUFACTURING SIDE SHOULD SET THE TONE AND MAKE IT SO THE REST OF THE CAMPUS NATURALLY FOLLOWS BECAUSE YOU WOULD NOT THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WAY OUTSIDE LIFE SCIENCE USE WOULD WANT TO BE CO-LOCATE ON A LIFE SCIENCE CAMPUS. SO THE OTHER POTENTIAL ISSUE WE CAME ACROSS, THERE ARE A LOT OF SUPPORT FUNCTIONS IN THIS ECOSYSTEM. FOR INSTANCE, VENRE CAPITAL FIRMS AND FUNDING FOR BIOTECH SERVICES LOVE TO BE LOCATED ON CAMPUSES LIKE THIS. THEY WOULDN'T MEET THE RESTRICTION OF LIFE SCIENCE FACILITY USE, BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO ALIENATE THEM. THAT ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT THOSE FACILITIES COULD CREATE PROBLEMS WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE. IF YOU LAND ON THE MANUFACTURING SIDE YOU DO ENOUGH TO ENSURE THE OVERALL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION. >> WE SHARE YOUR VISION FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO HERE AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS COULD REPRESENT FOR THE CITY AND THIS WHOLE REGION. BUT THAT SAME TOKEN, WE SHARE THE VISION WITH THE LIFE SCIENCES AND THE MANUFACTURING RELATED TO ALL OF THAT. I GUESS WHAT -- AND I THINK COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS TOUCHED A LITTLE ON THAT CONCERN TOO. THINGS CHANGE. ECONOMY CHANGES, BUSINESS CHANGES. THE ZONING IS GOING TO GO WITH THE LAND. SO WE'RE ALL HERE TALKING AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DESTINED TO BE LIFE SCIENCES-RELATED HEALTH CARE-RELATED. BUT SOMETHING COULD CHANGE AND IF IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY SET FOR THAT, IT COULD TURN OUT JUST TO BE GENERAL -- IF IT'S NOT -- PART OF THE ORDINANCE, COULD TURN OUT TO BE GENERAL OFFICE, COULD BE 775 APARTMENTS, MIGHT BE MORE. YOU KNOW, COULD BE ALLOWED. WE JUST WANT TO BE CERTAIN WE ARE SHARING THE SAME VISION, WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE SAME VISION, AND WE WANT IT TO BE THE LIFE SCIENCES, THE HEALTH CARE-RELATED THAT -- >> WELL, YES, AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT, COUNCILMAN SMITH. EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS LEADING TOWARDS THE LIFE SCIENCE. WE'VE GOT THE NUMBER ONE LIFE SCIENCE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT ARE ENGINEERING AND DESIGNING THIS. THE CRB PEOPLE ARE THE TOP OF THE TOP AND WE HAVE THE TOP PEOPLE. FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT, THEY ARE THE TOP PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT ARE ON THIS PROJECT. I WENT OUT AND RECRUITED THESE PEOPLE DIRECTLY. AND SO EVERY PIECE OF FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING IS LEADING US TO BELIEVE THAT THE LIFE SCIENCE INDUSTRY IS LOOKING FOR A CENTER OF THE COUNTRY OPPORTUNITY. WE THINK BAR NONE THIS IS THE BEST FROM A STANDPOINT OF BEING ABLE TO GO FROM THE INCUBATOR ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS DOWN TO MANUFACTURING YOUR PRODUCTS. NOBODY IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE'VE SEEN ON ONE LOCATION CAN DO THAT. AND SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A HUGE PLUS FOR US. BUT WE ARE LIFE SCIENCE COMMITTED. I WILL TELL YOU ON A PERSONAL BASIS, IF THIS WAS AN OFFICE CAMPUS, I WOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN THIS JOB. I INKHAT THIS IS A SPECIAL USE FOR A SPECIAL BUILDING IN A SPECIAL PLACE. AND THIS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THERAPIES AND CREATE DRUGS THAT ARE GOING TO SAVE LIVES AND DO GREAT FOR THE WORLD. AND SO I'M COMMITTED TO THAT. >> Smith: BACK TO CHRISTINA, I SEE WE DID ADD THE PART B THAT KIND OF DESCRIBED THE LIFE SCIENCES. HOW BIG OF A DEAL WOULD IT BE TO ADD IF THIS WERE TO GO TO MAKE IT CONTINGENT THAT THE 946, 700 WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE LIFE SCIENCES, HEALTH CARE-RELATED DEVELOPMENT? I'M SORRY, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT WE TABLED IT FOR YOU ALL TO GET TOGETHER AND BRING AN ORDINANCE THAT REFLECTED THAT. MAKING THAT MODIFICATION. WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT IS A QUESTION -- >> YOU ARE TALKING THE NON-MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS? >> Smith: BOTH THE STIPULATED THE 946 OF OFFICE REDEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE 375 -- IT NEEDS TO BE WHAT WE ALL WANT IT TO BE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. >> RIGHT AND WE'RE VERY MUCH IN AGREEMENT AND BEING COMFORTABLE OVERALL WITH HAVING THAT USE DESIGNATED. BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO QUANTIFY IT ON THE OFFICE PORTION, THAT IS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE ARE INADVERTENT RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD COME UP THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY THAT WOULD MEET OUR CRITERIA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY OF LIFE SCICE USE BUT DOESN'T FIT INTO THE VERY NARROW CLASSIFICATION LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT REFLECTS THE DIVISION, BUT YOU COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS THAT COULD BE PROBLEM PROBLEMATIC >> COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS -- >> NOT YET. >> THE CITY WILL MISS YOU. MAKES A GREAT POINT ABOUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS TO BE HERE. PART OF WHAT LUCY IS TALKING ABOUT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT THESE VENTURE CAPITAL COMPANIES ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE GROWTH OF THIS INDUSTRY. AND WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS PROHIBIT THE FINANCE PLAYERS FROM HAVING A PLACE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. >> RIGHT. >> SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GUARD AGAINST IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT NARROWING THIS TO A LEVEL -- I MEAN IN THE STARTUP COMPANIES, THESE -- THESE VENTURE FIRMS ARE CRITICAL TO ERYTHING THESE COMPANIES ARE DOING IN THEIR GROWTH. THAT WAS PART OF OUR CONCEPT WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT THIS. WE DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE THAT. SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD WRITE IN IS WHAT THE -- THE LANGUAGE THAT WE AGREED TO, AND I THINK IT COVERS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE SEE IT. >> Smith: REALLY IT DOES AS FAR AS THE MANUFACTURING, YOU KNOW, PORTION OF IT. BUT I THINK KNOW WHAT YOU SAID IT KIND OF CONCERNS ME AND I THINK IT'S RAISING A POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO IS YOUR CONCERN THAT FINANCIALLY POTENTIALLY FINANCIALLY IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO STIPULATE THAT IT MUST BE DEVELOPED WITH WHAT YOUR VISION IS, IT COULD JEOPARDIZE FINANCING? OR DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? >> FOR THE PROSPECTIVE TENANTS WHO -- THE OTHER PIECES OF THE LIFE SCIENCE ECOSYSTEM YOU CALL IT, THE SUPPORTING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THEY ARE IN THE LIFE SCIENCE INDUSTRY, BUT THEY WOULD NOT BE DESIGNATED LIFE SCIENCE USE. >> Smith: WHAT ABOUT MUST BE HEALTH CARE-RELATED? BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE -- I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. ANCILLARY SERVICES THERE. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD DO AFTER THIS WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS IS REALLY JUST A ZONING CASE. >> Smith: BUT THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL BE APPROVING OR NOT APPROVING TONIGHT DOES NOT STIPULATE ANY OF THIS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR US AN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND AGAIN, COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI, THAT'S WHY WE TABLED IT LAST TIME TO GIVE EVERYBY A CNCE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. I'M NOT SAYING IF I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT WE SHARE THE VISION AND WE HAVE TO BE IN THIS TOGETHER FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND -- CONCERN FOR PROJECT OF THIS SCOPE AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, THINGS CHANGE. >> YES. >> Smith: IF YOU ARE NOT WRITING A CHECK FROM YOUR ACCOUNT AND YOU ARE DEPENDING ON OTHER PEOPLE, AND I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY WOULD COME UP AND WRITE THAT KIND OF CHECK, BUT YOU ARE STILL DEPENDENT ON OTHER PLAYERS, AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR CONCERN. THE ZONING AGAIN THA GOES WITH THE LAND. SO ONCE IT'S APPROVED, IF WHATEVER -- YOU KNOW, COULD HAPPEN HAPPENS AND YOU HAVE TO PULL OUT, SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, IT COULD END UP BEING ANYTHING AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. >> WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BASIS OF LIFE SCIENCE THAT'S GOING TO BE EMBEDDED IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS. WE WORKED FOR TWO WEEKS ON THIS LANGUAGE. WE WERE AS AMENABLE AS ANYTHING THAT THE STAFF WANTED. LUCY'S POINT WHEN SHE CAME AND TALKED TOSAS WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ALIENATE USES INSIDE THIS BUILDING THAT ARE GOING TO BECOME IMPORTANT TO THE GROWTH AND WELFARE. IN THIS BUSINESS IT IS CAPITAL INTENSIVE, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ALIENATING SOMETHING BECAUSE OF, QUOTE, THE HEALTH CARE. WE HAVE NO INTEREST OF BRINGING BANK OF AMERICA IN HERE. WOULD WE BE INTERESTED IN HAVING BLACKSTONE IN THERE, WE WOULD BE ECSTATIC AS LONG AS WE MADE DEAL WITH THEM THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE 200 MILLION IN A FUND TO COMPANIES THEY ARE GOING TO BRING IN. THAT WAS THE LEVEL OF CONCERN AS WE WENT THROUGH IT, COUNCILMAN SMITH, AND WE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST TO CAPTURE IT. >> Smith: GREAT DISCUSSION. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF COUNCIL HAS TO SAY. >> Mayor Muns: MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Prince: WE WARNING WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. I'M IN MARKENG,UT THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT WE WORK WITH, WE CONTRACT WITH THAT WORK AS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES OF HEALTH CARE, IT IS A WIDE VARIETY OF INDUSTRIES. AND SO I THINK IF WE NARROW IT TOO MUCH, WE COULD BE LIMITING OURSELVES OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE PART OF THIS AND WHO NEED TO SUPPORT THIS. AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAILOR IT SO MUCH WE ARE OPENING UP TO ALL THE DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES THAT EXCEPT PORT HEALTH CARE. IT'S VERY -- SUPPORT HEAH CARE. IT'S VAST THE NUMBER OF INDUSTRIES THAT COULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TYPE OF THING. >> I HAVE A SIMPLE QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND THE CODES AND THIS IS ALL COMPLIANT WITH WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM PRINCE IS ALLUDING TO. MINE IS A SIMPLE QUESTION. AS WE PHASE THROUGH THIS, HOW MUCH ARE WE EXPECT TO GENERATE ON SALARIES ON EACH PHASE? HAVE YOU BALL PARKED THAT? >> YEAH, WE'VE HAD RAY PERLYMAN DO AN EXTENSIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, AND I WOULD SAY IN PHASE 1 FOR SURE THE AVERAGE SALARY RANGE IS IN THE 120 TO 150 RANGE, KIND OF ON AN AVERAGE BASIS. YOU'VE GOT YOUR TECHNICIANS THAT MAKE A LITTLE LESS. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR MIDDLE PEOPLE THAT MAKE ABOUT THAT AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SENIOR SCIENTISTS AND ALL THESE OTHER REALLY PH.D. TYPES THAT MAKE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE STUDY THAT CAME BACK IS THE WAGE SIDE OF THIS IS REALLY GOOD. AND IT'S GOING TO BRING A BUNCH OF HIGH-PAYI JOBS TO OUR REGION AND SO I WOULD SAY 120 TO 150 ON AN AVERAGE Z. >> Mayor Muns: THAT'S AN AVERAGE. WHEN WE FULLY STAFF PHASE 1, HOW MUCH IN SALARIES? >> ON AVERAGE 120 TO 150,000. THE SCIENTISTS ARE GOING TO MAKE MORE, YOUR CLINICAL TECHS ARE GOING TO MAKE LESS. BUT LESS IS NOT 30 OR 40,000, LESS IS 70, 80, 90,000. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IT CAME UP, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER AND THE EDUCATIONAL PART WE'RE WORKING LIKE CRAZY ON TO MAKE SURE THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT AND THIS TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER PIECE THAT IS SO BIG, LUCY, WE'VE TALKED TO ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE INDUSTRY. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. >> A COUPLE THINGS ON THE EDUCATION, MAYBE TO TAKE A STEP BACK TO ANSWER THE INITIAL RESEARCH HOSPITAL AND UNIVERSITY QUESTION. I THINK IN YOUR STUDY OF SOME OF THE OTHER LIFE SCIENCE DISTRICTS, DEDICATED DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE TYPES OF INSTITUTIONS WERE THE ANCHOR. I THINK YOU WILL SEE IN A LOT OF THESE ESTABLISHED LIFE SCIENCE CLUSTERS, THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO A SINGLE UNIVERSITY OR RESEARCH HOSPITAL, BUT ARE IN AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS AND THEY COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER. SO WHAT THOSE INSTITUTIONS REALLY PROVIDE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS A PIPELINE OF TALENT AND INNOVATION. AND SO IN NORTH TEXAS WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF PROMINENT ESTABLISHED RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD IN ALL OTHER MEETINGS WITH THEM, THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR LAB SPACE. THEY ARE HAVING RESEARCHERS COME TO THE POINT OF COMMERCIALIZATION AND GO THROUGH THEIR TECH TRANSFER OFFICES AND REALIZE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO ACTUALLY START THEIR COMPANY IF THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE THE CAMPUS THEY ARE OPERATING ON. THOSE COMPANIES ARE MOVING TO THE COAST. I THINK THE EXISTING ECOSYSTEM UNTIL WE CAN SORT OUT THE EXACT PLANS FOR RESEARCH HOSPITAL MORE THAN SERVES THAT PIPELINE FUNCTION THOSE INSTITUTIONS PROVIDE FOR THESE CLUSTERS. ON THE JOB FRONT, WE HAVE WORKED A LOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXISTING WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS ARE IN PLACE HERE RELATED TO THIS INDUSTRY. THE GOOD NEWS ANY INSTITUTION, COLIN COLLEGE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS THOSE IN PLACE TO PUT FOLKS ON A PATH TO A HIGH-WAGE JOB WITHOUT A FOUR-YEAR DEGREE. AND THIS INDUSTRY IS IDEAL FOR THAT TYPE OF SKILLS-BASED TRAINING OPATESN THE MACHINERY THAT MANUFACTURING SETTING IN LIFE SCIENCES REQUIRES MAINTENANCE, VERY SPECIFIC SKILLS-BASED USE. AND SO THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING THAT WORKFORCE, TRAIN THAT WORKFORCE HERE AND HOUSE THAT WORKFORCE ON OUR CAMPUS IS HUGE. IT'S A BIG COMPONENT AND DRIVER OF THE PROJECT. >> Mayor Muns: JUST TO FOLLOW UP, IN PHASE 1 HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU EXPECT? >> 2,000. >> Mayor Muns: PHASE 2? >> DIRECT JOBS, PROBABLY ANOTHER TWO TO 3,000. >> Mayor Muns: AND PHASE 3? > WELL, PHASE 3 IS STILL A QUESTION MARK IN TERMS OF IS THE RESEARCH HOSPITAL INVOLVED THERE. ACTUALLY WE'VE DONE MOST OF OUR WORK ON THE 99, 91 ACRES IN TERMS OF PHASES 1 AND 2. BUT THE STUDY THAT RAY PERRYMAN DID TAKES IT ALL THE WAY OUT. BUT PHASE 1 IS 2,000 AND PHASE 2 IS 2500 TO 3,000 DIRECT JOBS AT THE CAMPUS. >> GREAT. THANKS. Z COUNCIL MEMBER HORNE RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: THIS QUESTION IS FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER IT, BUT COULD SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THE COST OF LIFE SCIENCES DEVELOPMENT VERSUS GENERAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT? HOW THOSE TYPES PHYSICALLY DIFFER? >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. I'VE DONE MY SHARE OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY. NORMAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, YOU WOULD GIVE AN AN ALLOWANCE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 TO $75 A SQUARE FOOT. SAY IT'S A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT LSE TO A LAW FIRM. YOU GIVE THEM $75 A SQUARE FOOT. THAT WOULD BE A CREDIT AGAINST THEIR FINISH-OUT. YOU WOULD APPROVE THEIR FINISH-OUT. HERE THE LOWEST FINISH-OUT NUMBER THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CALCULATE IS ABOUT $200 A CONVEYOR FOOT. SOME GOOD TO 300 TO $400 A SQUARE FOOT. THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE WHO HAS THIS BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT WANTS TO BRI TSE& COMPANIES IN. IN SOME CASES IT'S TWO TO TWO AND A HALF TIMES, IN SOME CASES IT'S FOUR TIMES. SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD OUT THESE SPACES. IT'S ALL THE AIR HANDLING AND THINGS THAT GO INSIDE. THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING IS CHEAP. ALL THE MONEY IS REALLY SPENT ON THE INSIDE. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION, FRANK. AND SO ONE OF THE PLACES I'M GOING WITH THAT IS I THINK COUNCILMAN SMITH RAISES SOME EXCELLENT POINTS. I HEARD COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS AND COUNCILWOMAN TU RAISING THOSE POINTS AS WELL. I THINK WE'RE ALL CONCEPTUALLY ALIGNED ON THIS VISION, OR AT LEAST MOST OF US ARE. A LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS LIKE THIS COULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR YOU GUYS AND FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. IT BEHOOVES OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE CUTTING-EDGE INDUSTRIES LIKE THIS GROWING IN PLANO. I UNDERSTAND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHAT LUCY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE THERE ARE PLAYERS WHO ARE PART OF THE LIFE SCIENCES ECOSYSTEM THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT NOT MEET THE LETTER OF THE LAW. SO THERE'S A DIFFICULTY BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL COULD THROW OUT TONIGHT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING PHYSICALLY DIFFERENT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT TENANT WAS THERE ULTIMATELY, BUT SOMETHING PHYSICAL ABOUT THE STRUCTURE ITSELF THAT YOU ALL COULD COMMIT TO TT WOULD TAKE A STEP FURTHER IN SAYING YES, THIS IS GOING TO BE LIFE SCIENCES BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING IT THIS WAY? >> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECT YOU'LL FEATURES IN TERMS OF CEILING HEIGHTS, IN TERMS OF CAPACITY OF UTILITIES. THE UTILITY CAPACITIES HERE, COUNCILMAN, ARE PROBABLY FOUR TO FIVE TIMES WHAT A NORMAL OFFICE BUILDING WOULD BE. I THINK THEIR HANDLING CAPABILITIES AND ALL OF THE OTHER LIFE SCIENCE-RELATED THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR PLANS THAT ARE BASICALLY READY TO GO TO THE CONSTRUCTION MARKET INDICATE THAT PER SQUARE FOOT ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS -- IT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR US SPENDING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING. PHASE 1 IS A BILLION DOLLARS. COUNCILMAN SMITH, IT WOULDN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO US NOT TO BRING LIFE SCIENCE IN HERE BECAUSE THEY ARER RENTS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE SPECIFIC TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD. WE WOULD LOSE OUR SHIRT AND PROBABLY NEVER HAVE ANOTHER INVESTOR IF WE WENT OUT AND BROUGHT IN GENERAL OFFICE USES BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO PUT IN. SO YOUR QUESTION IS A GREAT ONE. THE ANSWER IS YES, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT MORE MONEY ON THIS BUILDING BOTH INSIDE AND OUT TO GET IT READY FOR LIFE SCIENCE. >> Ricciardelli: AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, FRANK. WITHOUT BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE ON WHO THE TENANTS ARE, YOU KNOW, TO COUNCILMAN SMITH'S POINT, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT ONE WAY TO SATISFY THAT WOULD BE MAYBE TO PUT A FEW -- JUST A HANDFUL OF THOSE THINGS IN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED CEILING HEIGHTS, UTILITY CAPACITY, AIR HANDLING CAPABILITIES. THAT YOU ARE ALREADY PLANNING TO DO AND JUST PUT THOSE IN THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO DOING? >> WHAT ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO GET, ANTHONY? I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFIC. >> Ricciardelli: IT WOULD BE A CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, GUARANTEED CEILING HEIGHTS, CERTAIN UTILITY CAPACITY AND AIR HANDLING CAPABILITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE -- >> 13, 14-FOOT CEILING HEIGHT. LAB FUNCTIONS, HIGHER CEILINGS. 18. MANUFACTURING CEILINGS, 35 TO 40 FEET. THEY ARE ALREADY EMBEDDED INTO THE PLAN BECAUSE IT'S DESIGNED. I DON'T KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT OR NOT, BUT WE SPENT ALMOST $20 MILLION ON THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN HERE WITH THE TOP ARCHITECTUAL FIRMS. THIS IS SIGNED AS A LIFE SCIENCE HUB IN EVERY ASPECT. >> Ricciardelli: ABSOLUTELY, AND I TRUST WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHY I'M THINKING TO SATISFY COUNCILMAN SMITH'S CONCERN, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING ANYWAY THAT WOULDN'T BE EXTRA THAT WE COULD PUT IN HERE THAT WITHOUT GETTING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE ON WHO THE TENANTS ARE, THESE ARE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS. >> I WOULD ONLY STATE THE OBVIOUS. WE WERE HERE, WE GOT TABLED FOR TWO WEEKS. WE'VE WORKED ON TWO WEEKS ON EXACTLY GETTING THE LANGUAGE STRAIGHT. AT SOME LEVEL HERE WE'VE GOT TO AGREE TO AGREE AND GO FORWARD OR NOT GO FORWARD. THAT'S REALLY -- WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER NOVEMBER 30th OF 2022. THAT WAS OUR FIRST MEETING. SO WE'VE BEEN AT THIS ALMOST A YEAR. SO I DON'T KNOW, SAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? >> MAYOR ANDOUNCILMAN, I'M OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I APPRECIATE ALL THE QUESTIONS AND ROBUST DISCUSSION. SO CEILING HEIGHTS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI, ARE US TO UP TO MANIPULATE IN THE NEW FACILITY. IN THE EXISTING BUILDINGS WE'RE LOOKING WITH EDS BUILDING WHICH ACCOMMODATES A LIFE SCIENCE USE. I'M NOT EVEN SURE ANY OF US KNOWS WHAT THE HEIGHTS WOULD BE NOR WOULD THAT SATISFY YOUR REQUEST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING FOR LIFE SCIENCE USE. WE COULD I THINK SPEAK IN GENERAL TERMS IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SUGGESTION ABOUT HOW TO GET A THIS LIFE SCIENCE USE ABOUT INTRODUCING LAB SPACE INTO THE CENTRAL BUILDING WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS UNIQUE TO THIS BUILDING AND WOULD CHANGE ITS ECONOMIC FACTORS AND OTHER FACTORS AND MAKE IT UNATTRACTIVE TO A TYPICAL OFFICE TENANT? >> Ricciardelli: I THOUGHT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH RAISED A GREAT POINT AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT BECAUSE WE ALL WANT THIS TO BE A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PLANO. SO I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE IN HERE TONIG THAT, YOUN ADD KNOW, THAT WOULD SATISFY COUNCILMAN SMITH'S CONCERN, WHICH I THINK WAS A COGENT ONE. >> COUNCILMAN SMITH, WHAT MIGHT THAT ADD BE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU COMFORTABLE? WHAT WOULD YOU, LIKE TO SEE? >> I'M REREADING THIS AGAIN TO SEE IF I MAYBE MISINTERRUPTED SOMEHOW. IT JUST CONCERNS ME, AND I TRULY BELIEVE -- YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TELLING YOU, I BELIEVE YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TELLING USNDHIS IS WHAT YOU , WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN. I GUESS I WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT IT DOES HAPPEN BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN A ONE-YEAR PERIOD OR EVEN A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, IT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON AND ON AND THINGS DO CHANGE. THEY WILL ALWAYS CHANGE. >> I THINK MAYOR MUNS MADE AN ACCURATE POINT. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME WITH CITIES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE COMMENSURATE WITH INCENTIVES AND OTHER THINGS. IF I MAY SUGGEST, THAT MIGHT BE AN AREA THAT WILL ALLOW USO GO FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WORLD WATCHING THIS NOW FROM A USER STANDPOINT. THAT MAY GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEXT MONTH TO SIX WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND MAYBE FLUSH THIS OUT A LITTLE FURTHER TO EVERYONE'S INTERESTS. FOR ME, I WOULD NOT BE STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU IF THIS WAS AN OFFICE CAMPUS, IF THIS WAS JUST A HOTEL, A FEW APARTMENTS. I'M HERE TO TAKE THIS GREAT FACILITY THAT ROSS PEROT BUILT, WHO WAS MY MENTOR, I WORKED FOR 20 YEARS WITH THE FAMILY, AND TURN THIS INTO THE MOST ROBUST, VIBRANT LIFE SCIENCE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTRY. SO MR. MAYOR, I THINK YOU MADE A GOOD SUGGESTION. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING -- >> I KNOW WE NEED TO ADD THAT. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INTO THAT -- BECAUSE THOSE ARE ANCILLARY SERVICES. >> YOU BOTH MAKE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THIS. THE NEXT STEP WILL BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, PUTTING THE FINE DETAILS DOWN. BUT AGAIN, IF THIS GETS VOTED ON AFFIRMATIVELY TONIGHT, IT GETS APPROVED, THE ZE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE. HYPOTHETICALLY YOU GUYS GET TOGETHER AND IT JUST BREAKS DOWN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND YOU DECIDE OKAY, I'VE PUT 20 MILLION IN HERE, IT'S TIME TO DIVEST, MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. THE ZONING IS WITH THE LAND. I MEAN -- >> IT IS. >> FRANK, I SPENT 20 YEARS IN HEALTH CARE DEVELOPMENT. SOMETIMES THEY WORK, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WORK OUT THE EXACTLY THE W THAT YOU THOUGHT. BUT WHAT I'VE ALWAYS LEARNED AND I ALWAYS REMEMBER IS IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. WELL INTENTIONS ARE GREAT AND I'M NOT DOUBTING WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF YOUR STAFF ARE TELLING US, YOU DO BELIEVE IT, YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN BUT WE'RE ASSUMING, WE WON'T BE HERE, WE'LL BE TERMED OUT, BUT WE'RE ASSUMING YOUR TEAM IS GOING TO BE THERE ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT. >> WITH THE GOOD LORD WILLING, I'M GOING TO BE THROHT. BUT WEAVE SPEND AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF MONEY IF WE'RE GOING TO SUGGEST TO DO ANYTHING CLOSE WHAT YOUR CONCERN MIGHT BE. I COULD HAVE HAD THIS BUILDING ARCHITECTURAL WISE, EVERYTHING SCREAMS LIFE SCIENCE. THE ONE THING LUCY BROUGHT UP THAT IS A KEY POINT IN THIS IS WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE GROWTH, WELFARE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE LIMITED IT TO SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN HAVING PLANO BE THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE TO CREATE DRUGS AND THERAPY TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. THAT'S ALL WE'RE HERE TO BUILD. >> Smith: BELIEVE ME, THAT'S THE SAME THING WE ALL WANT. I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THAT WE'RE HERE AND WE CAN'T PUT THE WORD OR HEALTH CARE, HEALTH CARE-RELATED, FINANCIAL SOMETHING THERE'S -- AS MAYOR PRO TEM SAID, SHE'S IN HEALTH CARE ALSO. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT TOUCH AND INTERACT WITH HEALTH CARE. BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT AS YOU MENTION THAT BANK OF AMERICA IS A BAD EXAMPLE BECAUSE THEY DO HEALTH CARE LENDING SO THEY COULD BE CONSIDERED A HEALTH CARE. I WANT TO BE AS CERTAIN AS WE CAN THAT GOING FORWARD THIS IS THE VISION THAT YOU PLAN AND THAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN HERE. AND WE WANT TO HELP THAT HAPPEN. >> RICK, WHAT DO YOU -- >> LET ME MAKE OOMME AND SEE IF THIS CHANGES YOUR VIEW. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER STIPULATIONS FOR INSTANCE -- >> B SOUNDS GOOD. IT JUST LIMITS ITSELF TO THE MANUFACTURING PORTION. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STIPULATIONS AROUND THE MID-RISE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS CORRECT CANNOT GET BUILT UNLESS A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE PROJECT GETS BUILT, HAS OCCUPANCY, AND THAT INCLUDES THE MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS. SO MULTI-FAMILY DOES NOT HAPPEN ON THIS CAMPUS UNLESS THERE IS LIFE SENCE USE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. AND SO -- AND THEN THE PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 SEQUENCE HAVE SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS. IF WE DON'T IMPLEMENT THE LIFE SCIENCE USE IN THE WAY WE'VE SET OUT TO, YOU ARE LEFT WITH THE SAME ZONING YOU ARE TODAY WHICH IS JUST OFFICE AS IS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ANALYSIS OF APPROVING THIS AS IS OR NOT, YOU END UP RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WERE. I THINK THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT WE'VE MADE IN JUST GETTING THE PROJECT TO THIS POINT AND WILL MAKE IN THE ENDEAVOR AND COSTF A LIFE SCIENCE DEVELOPMENT IS ENOUGH MOTIVATION TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINATION OF STIPULATIONS IN TOTAL, THERE'S A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE THAT GUIDE YOU TOWARDS LIFE SCIENCE USE AND PREVENT INTRODUCTION OF NEW ELEMENTS AND ORDINANCES THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC IF THEY DON'T ACCOMPANY LIFE SCIENCE. WE WORKED VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT RESTRICTIONS WOULD NOT INADVERTENTLY CREATE PROBLEMS AND WERE ENFORCEABLE. >> EXCUSE ME. >> VAGUE LIFE SCIENCE LANGGE, T D WHO IS GOING TO ENFORCE THAT. WE ONLY PUT IN PLACE SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS ENFORCEABLE AND CLEAR AND DESIGNED. >> Smith: THAT'S 375 OF THE PACKAGE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, PRIMARY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT. AND JUST PRIMARY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, YOU COULD STILL HAVE A LIFE SCIENCE AND MANUFACTURING, SOME TYPE OF MANUFACTURING RELATED TO AT ANDAVE GENERAL OFFICE USE ON THE SAME CAMPUS, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT BRINGING US THE VISION THAT I KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE AND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE. >> WHAT PROPOSED LANGUAGE WOULD YOU PROPOSE THAT WE COULD DECIDE TONIGHT -- >> TO INCLUDE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND SUPPORT OF LIFE SCIENCES IN THE ITEM I, 946, 700 SQUARE FEET ON THE ONLY COMMENT TO THAT, MAYOR, WE'VE DEFINED LIFE SCIENCES THERE IN THE MANUFACTURING FACILITIES. WITH RESPECT TO SOME SPECIFIC CODES THAT ARE ABOUT MANUFACTURING ONLY. I MIGHT SUGGEST -- >> YOU CAN DO AND. >> AND IS PROBABLY FINE. WE COULD GO WITH THE R&D WHICH I THINK IS THE NEXT IN THE LAUNDRY LIST AND TALK IN TERMS OF SUPPORTING INCLUDING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. >> I NEED TO POINT OUT SOMETHING. IT WAS STATED THAT THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FORIFE SCIENCES. THE LIFE SCIENCES IS NOT ANYWHERE IN THIS ORDINANCE IN THE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. IT SIMPLY SAYS SO MANY SQUARE FEET MUST RECEIVE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY. IT'S NOT TIED TO LIFE SCIENCES. >> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]. >> SO THE MANUFACTURING -- [MULTIPLE VOICES] >> IT CAN ONLY BE LIFE SCIENCES. I LIKED THAT IDEA ABOUT TYING THE EDS EXISTING CAMPUS, THE 946,700 FEET TO THE R&D CODE AND FUNCTIONS THAT SUPPORT -- WHAT WAS THAT SUPPORT THAT OR -- >> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]. >> CERTAINLY, MAY NOT BE 100%. I THINK THAT MAKES EXCELLENT SENSE. >> SO I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DECIDE TODAY, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR WHAT I'M DOING, IS THAT HOW 8 YOU LIKE TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE AND HOW ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT SITTING HERE. I THINK WE'RE CLOSE. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Prince: WE'RE ALL GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT I WANT TO REMIND WE HAVE A MASSIVE BUILDING THAT IS SITTING THERE EMPTY WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH MAKING THEM SAY THIS HAS TO BE IN THERE, THIS HAS TO GO IN THERE. I GUESS WE'RE ALL OKAY WITH IT SITTING THERE LONGER? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT THIS AND, OR AND BUT BECAUSE IF WE PUT ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS ON THEM, ALL WE'RE SAYING TO THEM IS LET'S JUST LET IT SIT THERE EMPTY LONGER AND LONGER AND LONGER BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING IT THAT MUCH HARDER ON THEM TO FILL IT. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE KEEP TELLING THEM LET'S PUT ALL THESE MORE RESTRICTIONS ON IT. I'D RATHER US GIVE THEM SOME LEEWAY TO FILL IT WITH SOMETHING RATHER THAN IT SIT THERE ELEMENT LONGER AND LONGER. >> MAYOR PRO TEM, JUST TO FOLLOW THAT, WHAT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO DO, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT OUR ABILITY TO GET THIS FINANCED AND DO THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TO BRING A BILLION DOLLARS TO THE TABLE IN PHASE 1. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SCARING AWAY LENDERS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE BECOME SO SPECIFIC THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT FIVE OTHER THINGS. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT IF THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING TO REFLECT WHAT MEMBER SMITH, WE WANT TONCIL MAKE YOU HAPPY ON THIS. >> SAM MENTIONED IT AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI AND I BOTH AGREE THAT MIGHT SOLVE THE WHOLE PROBLEM. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? >> COULD I -- ALONG THE LINES THE 946,000 WILL BE PRIMARILY, WHICH MEANS 50% PLUS ONE, USED FOR OR BUILT FOR, DEVELOPED FOR. THE 5417 CODE THAT RELATES TO R&D, AND GOT TOE AND, SOMETHING ALONG RELATED, CONTRACTING, SUPPORTING AND THEN THAT LAUNDRY LIST OF SERVICES PHARMACEUTICAL. IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT DOABLE? >> JUST A CLARIFICATION, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WOULD BE RELATED TO LIFE SCIENCES. >> YES. >> Mayor Muns: WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE RECESS. CHRISTINA, IF YOU GET THAT CLEARED UP, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. [BEF RESS] >> Mayor Muns: PLANO CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION. I THINK WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT WORKS. COULD WE -- >> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]. >> THAT'S GOOD. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR FRANK? AND LUCY AND SAM? >> OR THEY COULD WAIT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Mayor Muns: WE DID HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKING. BEFORE I CREATE -- >> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE -- >> Mayor Muns: IT'S NOT THERE ON YOUR PAPER. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT -- SO B IS STILL THE SAME. >> AT THE VERY BOTTOM. >> E CHANGED. >> GO AHEAD, SAM. >> THERE'S JUST A NEW E THAT CAPTURES THIS CONCEPT ABOUT THE CENTRAL BUILDING. THE B WITHHE RESICTIONS ON MANUFACTURING USES IS THE SAME. >> OH, I SEE. OKAY. I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG PAGE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU OR STAFF. QUICK STEP BACK. I WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE HAVE THE STIPULATION IN THERE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAPPEN, THE PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT BEFORE THE HOTEL GOES IN BECAUSE WE DID ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HAD TO PUT IN THE HOTEL BEFORE WE ADDED THE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING. SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME UP. I WAS JUST CURE USE. >> OUR POSITION IS THERE'S ENOUGH THERE IN TERMS OF HOTEL AND APARTMENTS IN THE FIRST PHASE. WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. >> SO YOU ARE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. >> I THINK WE'RE BEING SMART NEIGHBORS. BECAUSE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OUR MONEY IS ON THE LIFE SCIENCE SIZE. YOU'VE GOT A ECO ZONE LIKE NO OTHER THAT EXISTS TODAY SO LET'S USE IT. >> Mayor Muns: I'M GOING TO LET ONE SPEAKER COME AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. >> JENNIFER GRACEMAN. >> JENNIFER GRACEMAN, PLANO. THIS DEVELOPMENT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, JUST ONE PROBLEM, THE HOUSING. THE DEVELOPER CLAIMS HE NEEDS THESE APARTMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, IF HE WAS IN SUCH DESPERATE NEED OF THEM, WHY WOULD HE RENT THEM TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE AS HE SAID AT P&Z AND JUST NOW? WHY NOT ALLOW FOR OWNERSHIP? COMPANIES ACROSS THE U.S. ARE BUILDING HOUSING FOR THEIR WORKERS. ACCORDING TO A NEWS ARTICLE, A GROWING NUMBER, A RECENT NEWS ARTICLE, A GROWING NUMBER OF EMPLOYERS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE DECIDED TO BUILD THEIR OWN HOUSING FOR WORKERS TO BUY. DISNEY, META, THE MEAT PACKERS JBS COOK'S MEDICAL, AND HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS ARE JUST SOME. ELON MUSK IS PLANNING A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD IN TEXAS FOR HIS EMPLOYEES. COOK'S MEDICAL COMPANY HAD -- DOES NOT WANT T BUD APARTMENTS. HE SAID YOU DON'T BUILD COMMUNITIES WITH APARTMENTS AND RENTALS, AND PEOPLE DON'T BUY WELL LIVING IN APARTMENTS. I WANT TO BUILD HOUSES WHERE PEOPLE CAN RAISE THEIR KIDS AND LIVE THERE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE. CLEARLY THIS MAN CARES ABOUT HIS PEOPLE. ALSO ACCORDING TO A STUDY PUBLISHED IN THE BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNALS OF EPIDEMIOLOGY AND COMMUNITY HEALTH, RENTING IS TO STRESSFUL IT LEADS TO FASTER BIOLOGICAL AGING THAN HOMEOWNERSHIP. IT IS SO STRESUL IT IMPACTS ON BIOLOGICAL AGE WAS ALMOST DOUBLE THAT OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND 50% GREATER THAN LIVING AT A FORMER SMOKER. I WOULD BE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IF THE DEVELOPER BUILT VIABLE HOUSING FOR ONLY THEIR EMPLOYEES. WHETHER THE EMPLOYEE WANTS TO SELL, THE COMPANY OR WORKERS GET THE FIRST OPTION TO BUY. IF RENTALS ARE BUILT, THEY NEED TO BE ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE WORKING IN THE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, IT IS BETTER FOR THE WORKERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD TO BUILD HOMES TO BUY THAN TO RENT. I HOPE THIS DEVELOPER AND COUNCIL CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE TO BUILD BUYABLE HOMES THAN TEMPORARY RENTALS. ALSO, INTEREST RATES WILL GO DOWN AGAIN. I WAS AROUND AT A TIME WHEN INTEREST RATES WERE 21% AND PEOPLE STILL BOUGHT HOMES. AND THEY ARE ONLY AT 8% AND WILL GO DOWN IN THE FUTURE. WE WILL NOT BE IN INFLATION FOREVER FOLKS. OKAY? AND PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS -- >> 20 SECONDS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. ANY MORE SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. LET'S JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM. COUNCIL MEMBER RICCIARDELLI. >> Ricciardelli: WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I LIVE VERY NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT MANY HAVE EXPRESSED ABOUT DENSITY IN THE CITY OF PLANO. I THINK MY RECORD SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THREE RECENT VOTES ON APARTMENTS. I HAVEN'T VOT IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THOSE. I VOTED AGAINST HAGGARD FARMS. I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SAVE MULTI-FAMILY FOR THE TRULY EXCEPTIONAL CASES AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. I THINK THAT THIS HAS THE CHANCE TO BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. IT MAKES IT A RARE CASE LIKE THE COLIN CREEK MALL REDEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY A FAR GREATER NUMBER, THREE TIMES AS MANY APARTMENTS WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THAT. THIS IS CURRENTLY THE LARGEST OFFICE VACANCY IN PLANO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THE COST TO REDEVELOP THIS AS A LIFE SCIENCES DEVELOPMENT IS EXTREMELY HIGH THAT'S GOING TO DELIVER BENEFITS FOR OUR TAX BASE, TAKING PROPERTY TAX STRESS OFF OF HOMEOWNERS AND THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENCY. LIFE SCIENCE IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER EMPLOYMENT USES IF THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT IT NEEDS TO HOUSING COMPONENT TO ACTIVATE THE LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS, THAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT FROM THE GENERAL PROHIBITION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT NOT BEING SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. BECAUSE IT IS THE FACT IT IS SPECIFICALLY LIFE SCIENCES THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE, THAT MAKES RESIDENTIAL APPROPRIATE AS A PART OF THIS LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS, THAT'S WHY I -- YOU KNOW, AND OTHERS ON COUNCIL HAVE PUSHED SO HARD FOR LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT MAKE SURE THAT WILL BE SPECIFICALLY A LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS AND ONLY A LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS AS I KNOW THE DEVELOPER ENVISIONS IT TO BE. THA'S WHY THE CHANGES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EDS CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING 946,700 SQUARE FOOT EDS BUILDING ALONG WITH THE TWO THERAPEUTUC MANUFACTURING FACILITIES WILL BE LIFE SCIENCES ALONG WITH THE PHASING THAT COMMITS THE DEVELOPER TO EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION APPROVED LIFE SCIENCES BEFORE OR CONCURRENT WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY DELOPMENT IS SO IMPORTANT. IF THIS IS FULLY REALIZED, IT WILL BE 6.1 MILLION SQUARE FEET. SO THIS IS NOT A CASE WHERE THE TAIL IS WAGGING THE DOG. SOMETIMES WE GET PEOPLE COMING IN AND THEY TALK ABOUT REDEVELOPING AN OFFICE CAMPUS BUT REALLY THEY ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT BUILDING APARTMENTS. THIS IS NOT THAT CASE. THIS IS A TRANSFORMATIONAL REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF PLANO AND THE HOUSING IS TRULY ANCILLARY TO THAT. THE PHASING REQUIRES EVEN IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO AT LEAST 1.7 MILLION CONVEYOR CONVEYOR -- SQUARE FEET OF THAT. IN CONCLUSION, YOU ARE WELCOME, MAYOR PRO TEM. I HAVE AN EXTREMELY HIGH BAR FOR APPROVING MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING IN THE CITY OF PLANO AND, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS MAY DISAGREE WITH THIS DECISION, BUT TRUST I DO HAVE AN EXTREMELY HIGH BAR. BUT THE COMMITMENT THIS DEVELOPER MADE TO MAKE THIS A TRULY EXCEPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT MEET THAT HIGH BAR AND THE PHASING AND OTHER LANGUAGE WE PUT INHE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO HOLD THE DEVELOPER TO THOSE COMMITMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A TRULY EXCEPTIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE MULTI-FAMILY WILL BE A MINORITY COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ACCORDINGLY I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS EXCEPTIONAL LIFE SCIENCES CAMPUS AND I GUARANTEE WE AT THE CITY ARE GOING TO HOLD THE DEVELOPER TO WHAT I KNOW THE DEVELOPER INTENDS TO DEVELOP WHICH IS A WORLD CLASS LIFE SCIENCES. >> Horne: CURRENTLY WE ARE T GENERATING ANY REVENUE AND WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING IS ALTERING FOR THE CITY. IT IS LIFE SCIENCES IN ITSELF ALTERS CITY. CASE IN POINT WHEN YOU LOOK AT RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK IN NORTH CAROLINA, IT WAS A TOBACCO FARMING AREA AT ONE TIME. NOW IT'S ONE OF THE PREMIER AREAS IN THE COUNTRY FOR R&D FOR MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY. JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRODUCING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS SALARYWISE, THE FIRST PHASE ON A BALLPARK NUMBERS YOU GAVE ME, 240 MILLION ON THE LOW END OF SALARIES. ON PHASE 2, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, IT'S FROM 540 MILLION TO 675 MILLION. I'D LIKE TO SEE ARE A LOT OF THAT SALARY STAY IN PLANO. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, WHICH BY THE WAY I DID RESEARCH IN COLLEGE, AND I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE LIVED NEXT TO THE RESEARCH FACILITY, I COULD HAVE WALKED HOME AFTER THE GC WENT DOWN, BUT TO HAVE 776 APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM LEGACY, THE SHOPS AT LEGACY, THAWILL BE A BIG BOOST FOR THEM, PARTICULARLY WHEN THEY HAVE SALARY RANGES FROM 120 TO 150,000 A YEAR. WITH THAT IN MIND, I SEE IT AS BEING VIOLATES FOR THE GROWTH AND VIBRANCY IN THE CITY OF PLANO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> Mayor Muns: MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Prince: THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK THIS MAY NOT HAPPEN, WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, AND IT MAY NOT WORK, BUT TO ME I'M THINKING WHAT IF IT DOES. IF IT DOES, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INCREDIBLE FOR OUR CITY. MANY TIMES YOU DO NOT GET A GREAT REWARD WITHOUT TAKING A GREAT RISK AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS RISK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO VOTE FOR THIS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES BY THE STAFF. >> JUST A POINT OF ORDER. >> Mayor Muns: LET EVERYBODY SPEAK. >> I WAS GOING TO SECOND. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION WAS SUFFICIENT TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE >>SPEAKER OFF MIC] >> Mayor Muns: HOW DO WE SAY IT SO IT'S COMPREHENSIVE. >> AS PRESENTED -- >> THE UPDATED ORDINANCE. >> YES, ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED THIS EVENING YES. >> OKAY. I WILL SECOND THAT. >> Mayor Muns: DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> Tu: I'M IN FAVOR OF IT. THE ONLY REASON I HAD QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE APARTMENTS IS THAT I DON'T THINK REALLY LOGALLY IT KES SENSE THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE FOR THE EMPLOYEES. HOWEVER, I DO BELIEVE THAT IF THE PHASING IN OF THE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT UNITS IS GOING TO COME IN AT THE LATER -- AFTER THE FIRST OR SECOND PHASE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE MORE FOR SUPPORTING STAFF. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO IS GOING TO COOK THERE, SERVE THERE, CLEAN THERE, I THINK THOSE ARE THE -- THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROBABLY GOING TO REALLY NEED THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR THOSE THINGS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN FOR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORT STAFF SO THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE SALARIED, THEY ARE GOING TO BE BUYING HOUSES IN PLANO. THAT'S IT. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIAMS. >> Williams: I AM GENERALLY EXCITED FOR HAVING THIS LIFE SCIENCES PARK IN PLANO. WHEN IT COMES TO THE MULTI-FAMILY, I'VE LONG SAID THAT BECAUSE MORE THAN A THIRD OF OUR HOUSING IS NOW MULTI-FAMILY AND WHEN CERTAIN PROJECTS ARE COMPLETED, THAT WILL BE CLOSER TO 40%, THAT ANY ADDITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY NEEDS TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. I CAN'T LOGICALLY GET TO THE POSITION THAT 775 UNITS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY OCCUPYING THOSE UNITS, IS CRITICAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAMPUS. IF THESE WERE PROPOSED TO BE CONDOS OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE OWNED, I'D BE HAPPY WITH TWICE AS MANY UNITS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE A DEARTH OF THAT IN PLANO. AS IT STANDS, I'M AFRAI I CAN'T GET ON BOARD WITH THIS. SOUNDS LIKE I'M IN THE MINORITY, BUT THAT'S HOW IT STANDS. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER HOLMER. >> Holmer: I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. SPACE HAS BEEN ALMOST WAY TOO LONG. I DID RECEIVE THE EMAILS ABOUT MAKING HOMES AVAILABLE TO THE EMPLOYEES AND I DID RESEARCH THE OTHER PLACES THAT WAS DONE AND IT WAS LIKE IN RURAL INDIANA WHERE THE COST OF LAND WAS AFFORDABLE AND IT WAS PRIVATE. COMPANIES BUYING LAND AND SELLING IT -- THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE IN PLANO, TEXAS. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS I LIKE THE IDEA OF ALL THE COMMUNITY SPACE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL BUSINESS THAT IT WILL GIVE OUR EXISTING RETAIL AND HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES AND ALL THE NEW JOBS IT WILL BRING TO THE AREA. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH. >> Smith: ANTI-CLIMATIC. CONGRATULATIONS. I KNOW YOU CAN DO MATH OR YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS LIFE SCIENCES PROJECT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S GOING TO BE AT'S WHAT INTRIGUES ME. THIS HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING UNBELIEVABLE. NOT JUST FOR YOU AND NOT JUST FOR PLANO, BUT FOR THIS WHOLE REGION OF TEXAS. NOW THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WORKING WITH US, WE'VE GOT B AND E LANGUAGE IN THERE CLARIFYING CHRISTINA AND LIFE SCIENCES, I AM SUPPORTIVE ALSO. I JUST WANT THIS THING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU HOPE IT'S GOING TO BE. THANK YOU. >> I'LL BE SHORT TOO. EDS WAS THE FIRST MAJOR CORPORATE COMPANY THAT CAME TO PLANO, AND PLANO DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT HAD. AND WHEN I RAN FOR MAYOR, THE EDS CAMPUS AND THE J.C.~PENNEY CAMPUS WAS A REAL PRIORITY FOR ME AND FOR COUNCIL. THIS IS A HALLMARK DAY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT COULD HANDLE A PROJECT LIKE THIS. AND SOE HA A LOT OF FAITH IN YOU. WE WISH YOU THE BEST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE LIGHTS COME BACK ON IN THE GOD POD. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 7-1. >> TAKE A TWO-MINUTE BRE, THREW-MINUTE BREAK. [BRIEF RECESS] >> Mayor Muns: WE ARE -- PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS CONVED IN OPEN SESSION. MOVING ON TO ITEM 2. >> Public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in zoning case 2023-018 to amend the comprehensive zoning ordinance of the city, ordinance number 2015-5-2, as heretofore amended, so as to amend planned development 37, retail/neighborhood office to increase the amount of retail and restaurant square footage on 7.8 acres of land located on the north side of 14th street, 808 feet east of Los Rios boulevard in the city of Plano, Colin County, Texas; directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the city; and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. >> ZONING CASE 18 IS REQUEST TO AMEND AN EXISTING PD THAT'S GOT A COMBINED BASE ZONING OF RETAIL AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND IT IS RELATED TO A CHANGE OF USE ALLOWANCE. SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY, AGAIN ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST 14th STREET, EAST OF LOS RIOS BOULEVARD, AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY VARIOUS OTHER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS INCLUDING OFFICE 1 AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY SO YOU CAN SEE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S OCCURRED ON T FRONTAGE, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY STILL REMAINS UNDEVELOPED. SO THE REQUEST IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO ADD AN ALLOWANCE FOR 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL RETAIL USE ALLOWANCE. YOU CAN SEE THE -- THIS IS A SNIPPET OF THE PD LANGUAGE THAT HAS RETAIL AND RESTAURANT LIMITED TO A COMBINED MAXIMUM OF 15,300 SQUARE FEET AND THE CHANGE PROPOSED IS 21,300 SQUARE FEET. SO THE -- THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE LOT CONFIGURATION OF THE SITE TODAY. SO THE HISTORY OF USES OVER TIME, THIS IS KIND OF A COLOR CODING OF THE PROPERTY AS IT WAS APPROVED IN 2018. YOU SEE THERE WERE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK. WITH A COMBINATION OF RETAIL OFFICE MEDICAL OFFICE AND RESTAURANT USES AT THE FRONT AGE. THEN THAT WAS CHANGED IN 2019 TO INCLUDE AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN SOME OF THE FRONTAGE CHANGED TO JUST PURELY OFFICE. AND THEN THE CURRENT PLANS INCLUDE AGAIN THE INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY, BUT MORE OF A RETAIL AND RESTAURANT FOCUS WITH LIMITED AMOUNTS OF OFFICE USE. SO THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CATEGORY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND AS YOU HOPEFULLY CAN SEE THE RETAIL CATEGORY EVEN WITH THE CHANGE IS STILL IN COMPLIANCE. IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE AVE HAD NO FEEDBACK WITHIN 200 FEET, AND CITYWIDE WE'VE HAD THREE INDIVIDUALS GIVE US RESPONSES, TWO NEUTRAL AND ONE OPPOSED. AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED A VOTE OF 7-1 AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINA? THANK YOU. OH SORRY. >> [SPEAKER OFF MIC]. >> THANK YOU, CHRISTINA. ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS FROM STAFF RELATIVE TO THE WASTEWER TREATMENT PLANT? >> REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL RETAIL USE, THIS SPECIFIC CHANGE, NO, THERE ARE NOT. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE ONLY SPEAKERS WE HAVE THIS EENING ARE -- IS THE APPLICANT. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LATE NIGHT SO I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY EXCITED FOR THIS PROJECT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT MANY YEARS. OBVIOUSLY THROUGH COVID OUR EXPECTATIONS AND TENANT REQUESTS HAVE CHANGED SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF FINE-TUNING WHAT THE DEMAND HAS BEEN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN BY THE DEVELOPMENT, I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE BUILT, I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SENIOR LIVING IN THE BACK. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: ANY MORE SPEAKERS? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO COUNCIL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE, MAYOR. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8-0. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MEETING IS ADJOURNED.