e e e e e e e e e e e e all the me order stand for the Pledge of Allegiance please I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States ofer thank you very much roll call please council member nordby council member Woods here council member McKenzie here council member schwe here mayor mongi here thank you have motion to adopt the agenda please so moved so moved council member schwe council member wood second all those in favor say I I thank you very much all right first up we have a presentation from hga Parks planning for their final report please come up I'm uh sitting right here there you are this is not working on there okay didn't work very good for me to stand up there last time and then like try loock here so I guess I'm in um I'm going to sit so you catch me uh no no um my name is trig Hansen I'm a landscape architect with hga I've got to know uh many of you as well as uh some of the parks and wck committee uh members that are here in the office or audience um that I've worked with or hga and my team has worked with for several months beginning um back in August and we wrapped up um a several months long process uh in uh beginning of January with the finalization or end of January the finalization of this report um which is uh a report that uh summarizes and um documents essentially everything that we did during uh a process that was um geared around developing uh concept designs for three sites that were identified an RFP um uh solicited by the city via the parks and rec commission um that hga responded to uh amongst I believe a dozen other firms was this was actually back in think about February when it all started um and then HJ was selected uh to uh work with the parks and rec commission um April sometimes there were some um change over within the staff and we finally got the park the project going in Earnest in in August um and what we did were there were the three Parks uh and my understanding is you've all at least had this report and reviewed and understand I know Cassidy is uh familiar with the project and the process and everything that went on um but we uh did conceptual design for three Parks the downtown open space a Third Street North open space and mcnight athletic complex um that process included discovery of uh within the city within City staff stakeholders um uh so that our team could understand the passion and the story that of the city and the relationship to uh Parks uh within the city um and it also included a uh pretty Lively and rigorous uh uh engagement process getting out into the community a series of a couple events um and meetings um that uh had uh a lot of stakeholder Community um data that we collected that informed the designs um and we'll kind of I'll kind of Step through a little bit of the summary of those things within the report um I don't really have an opportunity to get into depth but what I do want is to give enough time to have questions and answers um moving forward uh like I got through that there's some things that we that the process didn't do um it didn't prioritize any of the three Parks over another it went through essentially the same process for each um when we presented at events we put them side by side this was an opportunity to create design ideas for these three different Parks um each one have along the way they had their unique uh findings discovering and needs and we reacted to those in kind but they were we didn't develop a perview as a team nor did the parks and W Commission on any of them being more important than the other we we wanted to um inform what these could be as added and improved within the parks and wre um system um another thing that we didn't do was develop a budget for these projects we did cost conceptual cost estimating um and that's what you see in in uh the result of the uh findings in the report and as as documented um C conceptual cost estimating um based on uh market value I'll just say m value approach whereas if these projects were um bided and developed and uh implemented through whether it's a uh general contractor um manager or construction manager um at large we didn't do make any prioritization or decisions based on cost other than reacting to the programs and the features that were included in the cost estimate and informed and a conceptual um uh so this was this is a highlevel um loaded cost estimate represents the concepts that were um uh created through the process so um oh jeez um with that come on okay did it was just going to sleep I'll get into it um I was told we have what 10 to 15 minutes and now I just took up five of it I'm sure so um again talk the report starts with an overview of the project um identifying the pro the project within the city this wants to be a tool for members of the city and potentially you know fundraisers or um so that we we gave a a pretty robust background to this document that can be used we also want it to be a tool for other projects not just these three wanted to be a tool for um complementing the master plan and other things uh moving forward as far as parks and open space um the engagement approach was developed we didn't have an approach set other than um kind of a rigor that we go through on all of our projects but we discovered who are the most the important community and stakeholders to engage with once we started working with the city um and that was informed uh on uh uh through that group collaborative effort so we learned that something like the artsfest would be a great opportunity for us to be out in the and we did that um based on uh the engagement process uh that we met or did together with the with the PRC and others we had some things that we were going to plan like we um were thinking that the car shows um might be something good but we learned that it's not as a representative of of the community itself because it brings in a lot of outside PE great great opportunity for the city but that something like the artfest or um the parade which didn't actually happen because of the um weather um uh but then we also set up like a community open house um over at uh Casey Lake which was a fantastic event um so we're kind of continually learning as we go um and adjusting let's see uh some of the you know whole host of findings um we began uh with some understanding of the community survey parks and Rec survey that had been done in the summer of 23 um and this was an opportunity to provide further information validate some things um truth um there was a a uh a not there's an a diff there can be different information gained through personal conversations one-on On's in-person events versus Anon Anonymous surveys um little context can be given to answers um and some of the things that we've we learned is is things that might have been asked for in the survey as you as you uh did Design Concepts and conversations learned that they might not have as much support or um uh they have more challenges as you start to execute them in reality um so you know some of the metrics are are um talked about in here moving towards as we get into each of the sites how de um Concepts were developed so for I'm going to try and speed up my Cadence so that we can make sure we have time for conversation essentially for the downtown um open space for each of them we developed at least two options that were responded to and voted on um uh at different uh the community events the direction that was most um uh supported although uh the two options here had a lot of similar support was one that based on idea of this the downtown open space be kinding being acting as a front porch to downtown um North St Paul Simple Green Space a passage on the west side for people to come spend 5 10 15 minutes um but nothing too presuming one of the interesting things about the design concept process here was that um uh we thought about the different these different programs that could happen in that open space from public art to um uh sculptural play spaces and when it came down to it simple open space for for that first step is really flexible and meaningful if this park um develops in one year or five years down the road There's an opportunity to uh re-engage conversations about how that space might be used but as an open flexible space it's really a program that could move forward and provide value to the city oops gota not do what I just did so we created for each of these um some conceptual uh renderings um we actually developed a simple 3D model um because we know that uh you know above and beyond plans and and precent images seeing things that are of the space provocative um can be really uh instrumental about telling the story uh one of the features that was uh really supported uh are these you can see these uh orange frames that holds something that's like uh an over um a industrial scale front porch swing something that would be simple interactive um but artistic at the same time and that we that was something that we did include in the in this um and it could be uh a little bit of a iconic feature that attracts people to downtown and and uh adds a little Pizzazz we'll say going into the Third Street open space um this uh lot of lively conversations about this this is the wooded acre wooded well I guess like 2third wooded along uh Third Street and the other is the corner of uh is it what do we call it is it five corners there really kind of bus busy intersection where there's an opportunity some City held land to to do something um the process in here was really uh I mentioned uh Community feedback that as we meant meant for initial Community feedback like from the community survey that said oh we really want um Community Gardens and we really want dog park um so we explored those things uh as well as nature B uh based play um as we furthered down let me just get to do we lay out the two options anyhow there was a series of kind of the F the options that had some of the most support were nature play and a dog park and uh it was interesting very interesting in the in-depth Community engagement like open house a lot of the people who um were dog we'll just call them dog people um enlightened us to some of the considerations that dog parks um have versus just um blatantly putting in uh or just putting a dog park in um in reaction to uh a survey um a lot of PE many of the the people that were dog park or dog owners said that they had challenges with going to dog park so um uh a lot of that in-depth conversation and revisiting led us to the uh Direction the final direction that it was going to be an a nature-based playground experience with a small community garden um and now those uh that's what the design direction that um was held in final and mcnight athletic complex can you yes it's Sor to interrupt but you have some pictures of what that dog park in like nature play as yes can you show those yeah because you had showed the downtown piece oh I didn't sorry I apologize yes let me go back to the plan I got so in- depth kind of just like talking about the process I apologize so this is the plan for the Third Street open space the preferred final option um some sort of community garden space at the five corners and then in the wooded area developing an accessible uh main trail and then kind of some ribbons of nature-based play experiences those could be wood those could be wood chip Trails into the hillside amongst uh groups of Boulders and logs and slides and all kinds of things like that that we had a lot of Spirited conversation um led by Dave about how this could be an opportunity for the city to develop and and Implement a park on maybe a bit a bit of a different type of um construction scale uh meaning you could engage local Partners local school groups local P the public works could implement it um and it may not necessarily need to be implemented as a full outside construction manager or general contractor um that being said under the purview of the project that's where the the the budget and the cost estimate lies within that um some images on the top of how the or the community garden uh might Express itself and then on the left here looking for some openings in that wooded area thinking that there'd be an opportunity to do some selective removal of trees a lot of it is kind of overgrown and um Urban uh Forest but there would be some opportunity to keep some of the more mature uh things that are uh preferred species uh open it up and create a nice space uh for the community unlike other areas that we or the city already has with kind of more formal play areas this would be an opportunity to explore that kind of nature base play now I could spend probably hours talking about the complexity and the layers of discovery that we had with mcnight um athletic complex um the I think I don't know I can't say exactly how many uh but one of the the main things that or several of the things that we learned um for sure is that this site has a lot of Pride historical Pride of the city um and programs and Athletics that used to happen there that um aren't happening there right now and the city would really love to get that Pride back at from this site as um a IC iconic athletic space for the city is North St Paul um the we learned and dug into and had conversations about the shared use agreement that the city and the uh Independent School District 622 has um we learned that in its current state it's predominantly um uh seen lack of uh athletic programming coming out of the city now and uh diminishing use by I'll just say um outside rentals um coming and going of Youth Baseball or um Legion ball uh things like that that the the biggest user right now is the softball and baseball teams at uh the North High um we also understand that in for the most part the city uh operates and maintains the fields um we learned through a very uh insightful meeting with with the city and the um School District that everyone wants um uh a balanced uh use that it makes sense that the city is utilizing it just as much as the school district as the way that it had been uh in the one past and we learned that there's opportunity and openness from both sides to adapt and look at different ways that the land can be used and and support the programs that have historically happened there and are um are happening there right now um so we we covered you know the the levels of disrepair and and site uh analysis um we looked at uh all the opportunities of you know just potential programming um that could happen on the site a lot of things that um we started in initial diagrams with a lot of different programs and as we moved out to a final preferred option um we really distilled it down to uh I guess it's five main pieces um uh one obviously a right-sized and improved uh parking lot that supports the activities and this and events that will happen there um the existing parking lot is in um uh need of uh repair it is what and another thing that we talked about is um that the capital Improvement plan has identified some funds in the in the near future for um uh specifically the parking lot at uh mcnight but that this planning and programming and conceptualization could be well would be an ideal time to wrap that into some larger program if possible um uh one of the other pieces uh and we learned from liaison group uh the shortage uh of uh available soccer programming within the city itself um and so we've uh visualized how the t-ball space could become maybe potentially a First Step at creating this uh flexible mini pitch program that could bring in all kinds of different youth uh soccer opportunities and be flexible for other sports um and then in an idea in a second phase that same model is talked about how it could be done on a larger context of potentially two of the northern softball fields you could get other sport um opportunities within that area inclusive of baseball and softball um within the uh the planning uh program two other uh or couple other um supportive programs that were talked about a lot that are missing at mcnight were a flexible event space um playground uh for and this one was is more was more identified for kind of like that middle age uh active that not tiny tot and things like that but like the 5 to 12 into young um uh Teenage um uh for a whole host of reasons um supplementary to whatever other sport uh events that are going on at the park um but also a place for the the those young adults and and teens to find their uh own space to hang out um and another program that came through and the previous uh survey as well as uh all the data that we collected through the community engagement was um skate and bike skills um and uh so we've positioned that here as well um go into some of the imagery that we created for this park and this one we did instead of having uh one we have like the the a phase one and a phase two potential phase two um brings in there was a lot of conversation um and energy about how flexible and useful the building at Casey lake is um and we identified that this would be if we improve athletic programs and add program this would be a great place to have something in similar kind to support um for storage um small events uh and uh bathrooms facilities things like that and so that's included as well in the phase 2 cost estimate um I said we didn't you know we kind of treated them all the same although this this uh the third or apologies um mcnight uh has kind of different level of unique Programming type so we kind of broke them out and T told a little bit of story the value the design considerations that each one would have um within the program and then talked about no matter what the design uh final concept uh some of the I'll say design elements that could still that would be supportive of any design iteration um now or into the future and then we ended with the cost uh estimates again um these were not uh we the parks and rec commission did not develop a budget for the project this was uh cost estimates that were in support of the Design Concepts that were um developed we another and you can see kind of highlighted and discuss discussed in um kind of summary level uh this the mcnight in particular um has a lot of opportunities for community and Partnerships um uh whether it's grants uh uh aligned programming um that could be and should be explored um when and if the project move forward moves forward so that's in general a summary I apologize for kind of a rambling approach to to uh uh explaining this I guess um I'm most eager to be able to field some questions if there are because I think you know we the Dave um Sarah and Sarah and myself were so ingrained in the process um uh coming from those who are reviewing and reacting I think it's important to have uh open dialogue if if desired with the the group that um put it together so thanks so much any questions anyone well I'll start you the whole hga team has done a phenomenal job and you have been present with this whole entire project so thank you for all the work that you've done um I will say you guys did an outstanding job of reaching out to our community and its members especially at the Autumn Arts Festival I was so impressed with the boards and the the uh colored dots that what what would you like to see here what would you like to see here and you implemented it all into these three Park plans which was incredible and to see it up front now in 3D image uh there are there's endless opportunities yet I think with some of us our eyes aren't um don't our eyes don't see what what you had put together especially alongside um the five corners that area has so much potential as well and we know that ni mcnight complex um is a sought out we we need some help over there let's just say that um but there is opportunity I mean there's a great opportunity and like you said great Partnerships that we could um work with and then you have the little downtown Park area where I like that you said it's it's kind of like that front porch feeling right you come in and um there's a place to sit you're we have car shows that are consistent throughout the summer um so you've all done a fantastic job and a big thank you to parks and wck as well for the time commitment that you've put in last year and um continuing through these meetings you're a volunteer doing this on this commission Sarah you're working extra overtime to do this um and that said this this is a great plan great opportunity of what we have lying ahead um and we have some great people on Parks and rck that I can see drive through this process with the support of council thank you did you say there's going to be a skate park for roller blades or skateboards things like that that well that's one of the programs that was is currently held in the shown in the preferred option for at mcnight and that would be for kids though twirl their bikes and break their legs and all that you know what what I mean y yeah that's I I mean I like the skateboard idea and I like the bike idea cuz we need something this community for the kids in the range of 9 to 15 yep that is one of the things I do like about the program here you got um some of it I'd love to see that one of one of these fields get domed for the winter time so we can have an indoor Athletic program instead of so much condense on the one area Dome it over like they do at Concordia in the wintertime that is phenomenal how they do that and they have the air bubbles and they blowing up the high school could be able to practice year round ball here yeah there's a lot of um we used uh several of those you know a a lot of the the team was not necessarily familiar when we talked about adding field flexibility um to these you know whether you know turning into to uh artificial turf or any of that so we um uh talked about what they're doing over at the uh SAA complex which is at uh Conway okay um St Paul yep yep and they do they take a a portion of that is Dome during the during the winter Concordia so I think there's a lot of um significant amount of programming opportunity there's a lot of discussion that could be done about this yeah I like the design of the complex itself I think I'd like to bring in one more ball field back so if we can get a tournament set up at least we can run a three six team tournament and keep it round robbing anything like that but we could probably get byy with one less so things like that yeah go ahead I was just going to say that I think because of the costs something we thought about want to come up so people can hear please Sarah's arrived from the park commission um something we had thought about just to consider is not having to make the decision tonight on exactly what it's going to look like but making the decision that we can start the path to move forward because we know how big it is is that with the softball fields that that potentially could be like phase two like tackling the parking lot those decrepit tennis courts we're housing all of our trees at the moment um that like phasing the approach for a cost B what Partnerships could be leveraged in order to do that because we might need more time especially if you're talking about a dome or additional baseball fields like who where we might have easier Partnerships with the Minnesota United and with Target who can donate money that are specific towards soccer programs so I think maybe the way to approach it or think that we thought about it was like actually thinking of in phased approaches because when you look at the dollar volume it's it's scary but I think if we think of it as like let's take this what can we nail out first which is we don't have a lot for youth 9 to 15 to do in the city we have a lot of things for young kids and then you age up and then we know what happens to kids so looking at it that way where we might be able to tackle that first lump with the parking lot and just kind of maybe get that fun little kids can bring their bikes older kids can bring their skateboards the little ninja structure or older play structure so that kids who are playing the siblings of the baseball kids I have those you know they got something to do if we can tackle that first then I think we can have a maybe more in-depth conversation about that second half where all those ball fields are and then give that more time to kind of mull it over that would just be my way of thinking at it too just for cost as well right right on that phase two on that phase two if you notice that's also a flex field so in reality we would still have four Fields there correct absolutely there would be still okay yes but the way it's laid out because it's a flex we can win baseball or softball season done we can change it over to soccer fields right so we wanted to make sure that we were kind of touching on all of those things so um but like Sarah had mentioned earlier I think we would like to see at least phase one get going so that area uh can be more utilized with a lot of the people that are now moving into the City and the new condos and stuff so but that was to answer your question you wouldn't in reality lose any Fields okay so one question I had was with the phase one you know it it covers the the let me get to the plan sorry phase one for the mcnight fields yep sorry yeah um so it covers those tennis courts north um yes parking lot little conle field that whole area which I agree with Sarah and you needs a lot of work um so does it cover anything for the uh existing baseball field itself it looks like there's some Landscaping but I mean I know that field gets used a lot for League ball and you know things like I'll say not uh specifically other than we know that that is a Cher that's a cherished um oh yeah uh icon of the city right so we would embrace it there's uh that being said the sub the like the stands like the back of house stuff right there's a a great opportunity to integrate that in okay um I'll say uh there were several decisions um made on this proess earlier and I I didn't get into it one was we had uh we didn't undergo any physical Ser topographic Sur existing survey we decided that um uh we had a proposal out there to do to survey these the three sites you know and it was upwards of $20,000 plus to have get that existing we made a calculated decision that we could move forward thinking conceptually in high level without doing um U an a deep dive survey to know like exact conditions and this and that that being said um I think it would behoove the city and its Partners to um think broadly about what executing a concept like this could entail you know um uh so I'm going to say yes and no to your question fair enough let me ask you this then all right that smaller field that's up on the northwest corner there could that be drawn out as you put the artificial turf down for a couple of small t-ball siiz Fields absolutely or because I realized Richardson's got a couple but the St Peters young programs have got no place to play CU they don't have a property that they are able to play at right now so I mean down the road if they were able to make up some fields for their three four year olds to uh eighty olds to start there so they can work with the city and get that all kind of prepared in there and they can play on the gr you know the the turf and that where they don't need the uh dirt and all that you that be the Slick thing to do and the parents are able to park close and then at a certain point it'll be all changed over for soccer for the rest of the fall and or football if they want to most of these flexible Fields have a hierarchy of permanent lines on them different colors um so uh you know the sacrifice of a sing of of that is you get a little bit of visual noise um but you have sometimes six different programs over overline on you know we talked about some of this things but that design level would be um that rigor would be brought right into this and and just to go about the conversation about like um the skate park um there would be an in a stakeholder engagement process uh part of a final design program that identifies you know the the opportunities and the constraints within that uh a feature like that actually um requires um Consultants that are specialists in that you know and so um the design team would integrate that you know we uh I can't say by any means that I know how to design a skate park um right you all know yeah well I mean I've seen on firsthand how Hopkins did it yeah and they've got their underneath the I the 169 Corridor bridge over Hopkins so I mean for that that's down the road for someone else to figure out but this building up on the Northern corner on the back side of the the uh Legion baseball team in high school yep what is that now that is just an open space in the building thees which one are we T sorry right here where I said stands existing no it's the octagon kind of building thing right here that building right there on to the right yeah oh H yes you're talking about the concession stand no no I'm talking still go to your right a little more it's on the back side of the it's the phas two of the community building yeah that's what it must be then cages oh yes that's a placeholder what would be a new building like at Casey Lake something like that that has how big I think that's to be determined yep but I think that's about 5,000 square ft shown so it's a little bit bigger than what is at Casey Lake um to to H house support function bathrooms storage um it was a it was a feature that's been identified as um um uh through the process as in a situ in a park like this um an amen that would be um like a fallout shelter also for playing out there if they're playing they got weather coming yeah yep that would have to be built strong enough but yeah that would work okay and a whole other piece of a of a design process that would have specific um engagement about the needs the requirements the programming okay part of it too for what I'm looking at also is that uh sometimes we can't use those fields till the middle of summer because of drainage and things like that yep so you didn't address any of that as far as land because I think there's going to be a lot of Excavating that's going to have to come because it is a swamp I mean if you really want to have fields that drain otherwise doing the same thing we're doing now which is we can't even mow them that's actually uh uh a good and absolutely fantastic point is the uh and this is part of the cost estimate is that those artificial Fields they're a at surface and a profile that goes down 2 3 feet um that the water that drains water through oh I see so so it's like clear yes it's clear um there's storm water management and cuz the idea is that you're investing a lot of money and you want to be able to use those fields no matter what can you reuse that water puddles underneath there is there a drain p it infiltrates um into the soil so the water table's up that high that's why it never goes down so that concerns me as how do you get that so the water table is up that high so okay um thanks absolutely fantasttic uh fantastic uh OB or question so the Sur you know we would start with surveying and geotechnical um some soil borings to understand what's going on there specifically um yeah thank thank you very much I I really appreciate this presentation it's been wonderful um one of the questions I have um and specifically um all of them but specifically the Forest Park concept yeah can you tell me what level of um expertise or what level of compliance um these Concepts have in relation to Ada um yes uh um uh this one specifically like I said we don't we did not get um survey data um but that being said uh we uh we we got um publicly available data and based on that it seems that you like there would be no issues with um engineering and further detailed design to make a uh sweeping path that goes through at uh accessible grade um uh you get you know the road itself maybe more than U accessible grade is 5% um maybe more than that but you can get more length by swooping and and doing some uh Earth Mar so the goal with I guess it's number seven would be that it's a accessible grade um uh with uh safe lighting um to accommodate it um when you get into nature based play things um you're making uh uh some educated decisions about uh what full accessibility um and access means um just um on the basis of that that being said like uh at mcnight we would see no reason that we would be designing things that weren't uh meeting uh accessible standards you get into a conversation on like the playground of how much of you want to implement Universal type access versus um uh kind of uh uh experiential based uh access um which is a whole playground design specialty uh about like universal access and things like that so um uh downtown park uh we would we would make all the spaces uh uh access accessible for um different all levels of wheelchair Walker all those we don't see we don't see any challenges for from that it's essentially a flat space right now so and you know it would it have to be with um thinking about it wanting to be this simple flexible Plaza um uh front porch so yes okay thank you yeah else it okay I'm good thank you well yeah thank you it's been a pleasure and I've I've said this to to Sarah Sarah and and Dave enough but I'm uh a lifelong uh from St Paul my wife grew up on the east side so I drove 36 thousands and thousands of times I never got a chance to become part of the the North St Paul Community until I worked on this project so working on this is I got to know another Community I got to know other population all these uh learn things I made all you know you make all these assumptions about places um much of it is not true you know so getting to know and be this is another part of my home now I feel I feel at home here um and I'm sure we'll have uh working relationships in some fashion moving forward so thank you very much this has been awesome thank you thank you all right all right next up uh is the consent agenda item a February 18th 2025 regular or workshop and regular meeting minutes Item B General claims of $685,500 item D North St Paul participation in Minnesota's toward zero death grant program item e new appointment to the arts and culture commission item F uh purchase Hall of Fame decorative lighting which would finish up the lights out there on uh Casey Lake Trail um item G 2025 rate table solar above 40kw and item H Electric uh declar Surplus items thank you very much would anybody like to pull any off the agenda at this time if not can I have a motion to pass the agenda so moved so moved council member would second second council member McKenzie all those in favor say I I I opposed thank you oh God they're good next part is uh meeting open of the public um we will call up the residents they have three minutes also when it comes to this we will take notes the city manager for any kind of concerns anybody has and then we'll take the take it back we won't be commenting of course during this time because we're going to take the information make sure we do the due diligent research anything we need thank you uh John schal please good evening evening uh mayor council member members happy Fat Tuesday can you say that happy Fat Tuesday anyway um first of all um clearing my throat I don't have a um um air purifier in my house didn't get to it but I don't have an extra electric bill anyway uh note uh on my way to Health Partners uh failin uh complex I noticed a sign that just appeared this week because I was there on Sunday to get rid of some branches that it said V uh DMV site so have they opened up a DMV site there to replace what we lost in Maplewood it would be nice because that trip to Stillwater is a long way and Rose Roseville it's crazy are you talking the one on Pierce Butler no I'm talking about Mung Village off of fail and Parkway a little sign they just put up DMV site I haven't heard about that I don't know what it is I'm just throwing it out I saw it today uh secondly I take issue with the requirement to sign on to Google to know what's going on with the CC project Community Center project why do we have to subject me to a an outfit Google who just love selling information and you have to sign on to their site in order to be uh or in order to obtain information about what's happening with the CC site we have open go why don't we have a site on open goov and on the city the city website um you know every time you turn around they're asking for uh update privacy uh this and that when you go sign on to Google um so uh and there that site that was established was not operative when council member Nordy nordby made his presentation there was no information on the site about it how do I know because I didn't sign on I'm not signing on another Google Google site uh because I know someone who did ask to be signed up on it and did not receive any information about council members Norby's uh presentation last time or two times ago the last item is is that I've given up on attending uh budget meetings because you go through all this budget meetings and information and what and know what are we going to do what's the levy going going to be and all of that stuff and then you end up spending uh finding money $80,000 to cover the uh Park dedication fee Etc and also the $90,000 in December for the uh uh consultant and I just go where's it coming from anyway any be careful out there it's thank Youk you don't go anywhere in the morning thank you very much that's it all I have is one all right next up is uh public hearing so item a is a proposal to adopt the street reconstruction plan and the intent to issue a General Obligations Street reconstruction bonds we have uh Finance director Winnick here to discuss U mayor council members um there's been um a number of meetings with WSB that um has discussed uh the plan um for the Reconstruction for 2025 with the Gerald Avenue between Mohawk Road and M massabi Avenue the shauni drive um bule Avenue and the Casey Lake Park parking lot off of shaune Drive um what this is is this we'll have to open this up for a public hearing for any comments um on um issuing bonds for this project um attached to your documentation is a street um reconstruction plan that's for 5 years it shows the 2025 and it also shows the What's um planned in part of our CIP for 2027 and then shows some other um Street related projects what um after the public hearing you'll have an opportunity to um adopt that plan um and then um also uh by resolution the intent to issue General obligation um Street reconstruction bonds um this also starts uh the 30-day time period um where um if the public um were against issuing the bonds they could petition um within the next 30 days then what it would do is end up uh forcing the issuance of the bonds to be held in a public U voting meeting um versus um city council issuing it um per our schedule um but um I think if you want uh if you have any questions on that before and then open it up to the public for any public comments questions anyone no okay if not do you have a okay just want to make sure I didn't miss yet okay so before you is a resolution um to adopt the street plan and to issue um bonds up to a maximum of $7 million at this point in time right now um working with Baker Tilly um our bond consultant um we're looking at about a little over $6.7 million issuance but um this is written to go up to seven um just in case that some of the estimates that come in um are a little bit higher that we have a little cushion for it so okay thank you got a motion so moved so move council member Norby second second council member m pardon me Mr Mayor I just wanted to before we move on here I just wanted to make sure we had a clear opening and closing of the public hearing even though we don't have anyone here just just so that we have that clearly recorded in the minutes all right public hearing closed 727 all right motion council member Norby right second was council member Kenzie yes all those in favor say I I I opposed okay thank you all right we have one city business action item and recommendation uh budget amendment for the fiscal year 2024 budgets turn that back over to Dan uh mayor uh and council members I knew you'd get sick of me by the end of this evening um uh before you is um kind of a cleanup for a 2024 um budget um we've done this the past uh three years this will be the fourth year um and it's basically um increasing the budget um and revenues um to make sure that they're covering all of the expenditures that have been um authorized by city council um through the year um and so all of the amendments are attached uh we have the community event fund there's an increase in estimated revenue and expenditures it's really due to the snowy sculptures um where we sold them um to a number of uh businesses um in the area and then the costs that are associated with that um there's a fire Relief Fund where we're required to um pass on um the fire Aid that we receive from the state um to the Rel Association it it was higher than we anticipated um just like we um had spoke earlier about the police um Aid they were much higher than um um was given to us when we built the budget um and then there's the Wastewater fund um that um if you remember uh I think the the P uh the purchase of a uh sewer cleaner was actually approved in by the CIP a few years ago it took up until this past year in 2024 to finally actually get the piece of equipment um and um so actually city council approved a part of the CIP but our budgets don't carry over um and so this is to make the the necessary adjustment to make sure that we have the the funding in the budget that um and the fund has enough money um as you've already seen um to cover that that expenditure which has already been approved so again it's more of just cleaning up um things Solid Waste um there is uh um increases in in um revenues and expenditures um and it's really um to cover uh coordinated tipping fees um fiber optics just a small little adjustment of uh $1,700 um just uh again um cover a little overage from what we had estimated in uh um for fiber cost that we pay a a third party and then the Insurance Fund some adjustments due to workman's comp insurance being higher than we estimated in property insurance um and then the equipment fund um again um the plow truck was budgeted actually in 2023 wasn't received until 2024 um so again it's just making um these adjustments um for that and then uh HRA um again it's an increase in estimated Revenue in in land um because of the sale of goods we actually sold two in 2024 versus it's just all timing um pieces so these are really just to clean up to close up um the budget for 2024 I already presented in the workshop um how well we've done in our in our funds so um there is a resolution that um is attached to this um to prove so then I can actually make the adjustments on um the financial system thank you very much can I get a motion to amend the financial 2024 budgets so moved so move council member Woods keny council member Kenzie all those in favor say I I I opposed none thank you thanks J all right uh reports of the city manager and departments we have uh we did I did put that idea by uh the deed uh gentleman that represents us for the grant that was presented by council member nordby um they were saying that the initial plan that was turned in had discussed the gymnasium and the running track so that plan um wouldn't work without having to go back to the legislators so um still working on a couple things but uh that's where we're at right now um the student built house so the Independent School District 916 they Tom did turn in His official uh resignation so for retirement um they have posted they put it up last week try to find somebody else we'll see how that goes um but those are some big shoes to fell he was really good at what he does and uh hate to see him go but he deserves his retirement um still i' like to see if we could do a little cereem morning for him for all he's done oh my gosh that'd be great this the guy who housing Tom for years he started it I'd like to be able to give him a a nice send off we really appreciate all these that be great yes is this still run out of Central College right correct yeah yeah um still looking at a few things to get taken care of so we can look at that uh 11th Avenue sidewalk from that will go from mcnight to Ariel on the north side of the road um there was a hiccup for the couple of properties closest to mcnight that it actually shows the U property going right to the middle of 11th Avenue I'm not sure why that wasn't caught before so we're in talks with property owners right now um along with that there'll be uh a couple of uh Crossing signals for uh the push button um by where the bus stops are um another idea I was going to throw out you guys and I know it been talked about in the past I don't know if it's still a priority but that path that goes through on the west side of the pond that goes from 11th up to 13th um I talked to Morgan about that just high level he was threw out a number it could be40 $50,000 but uh something to look into if you guys are interested in something like that um we can talk further about that later um for the Departments Electric's been uh they did been doing a lot of inspections they have a bunch of uh poles and cross arm change outs that they're going to be working on uh they've been doing some of their equipment inspection like Transformers overhead uh Transformers things like that um we got some substation maintenance planned that uh later on once the weather warms up a little bit before it gets too hot um have some other guys going down to sub school at Marshall here coming up and Cole one of our uh linemen they just had a baby yesterday so congratulations to him aa's been busy with the festival planning and getting everything lined up for the summer um Finance clearly has been extremely busy with the audit and doing just a great job um PD they uh have offered the job for the new investigator uh the gentleman right now lives in Texas but he's from Minnesota he worked for 17 years already at uh what was the name of that City uh indta Heights and I think right yeah I think he was so they're looking at a mid April start date for that and we've got an officer doing background checks right now so hopefully everything turns out we can have one of the officers start then as well um Public Works gave an update on the student built house the windows are getting put in uh basement floor was being poured today um so it's moving along uh rinks are done for the year um looks like we'll be doing pond maintenance they had tried to start that last year it didn't work out so they're going to be lining that up for this year um when do that project at C start that's going to be um they're hoping by the end of the year that they have their final plan in place so then what they'll do is they have other their permits ready to go so the first day that school is out they'll be hitting it hard they still haven't decided if they're going to expand out or go up or what yet so um the EAB removals is still taking place we cleared out a lot of them uh got the electric Department involved going down Margaret Street there were a lot of trees that didn't look very good they were kind of wide around the um power lines so that's a little looks a little empty there now a little open space down Margaret um they've been posting for summer help for Public Works trying to get another five to six uh people in for that help they're working on the lead service line uh information still they're trying it's required to have what was that 25 or 30 people that have that lead service line that they have to get them to agree to uh be part of the program where they can go into the house and get samples actually from their water line for that so they're working on that right now which is always uh hard to get them everybody lined up um they've also been bringing people in or contractors in for the uh door locks situation that we had discussed at The Retreat they've talked with three of them we got a couple more to talk to um fire is getting the notices out there for uh certificate of occupancy for the fire for the businesses um which is a new program that they started back up after the pandemic um that's all I got for you how about full is article 7 now for residency up there 75% they yeah it's about 40 plus% for actually in there but they're they're still moving in but they've got 75 % sold so and then it's about sentennial or was Sentinel Sentinel what's that fulfillment rate oh they been full for a while yeah I mean now it's just interchanging people coming and going okay all right all right thank you very much reps Parks presented what they presented that today so um what I can say is I would like you guys to just soak in what was just presented and um think about what we have for our future with our parks and these new locations I can easily say that we do have work with our current parks that we need to work on with Ada and all of that but there's some opportunity that we have um that is uh that is also something to consider as we move forward down the line with some of this park planning um next meeting is is uh March 26 here at 6:30 thank you very much and we have the Eda next week March 11th I think what whatever day is Tuesday W tues Tuesday 4M here 4 o' here thank you arts and culture uh we had a uh approval for a new member uh approved tonight and then uh our next meeting is tomorrow night thank you very much how Norby the Planning Commission meeting that was scheduled for March 6th Thursday has been cancelled due to lack of agenda okay thank you very much any general Business Council memb we no I'm good thank you no okay you nope nope all right um the event we had on Friday for the firefighters that was a good time very I walked out with the comedian yeah he kept telling me why am I looking at him through my back cuz I told as I went out I said I was looking at your back when I was looking at the mirror over here yeah so yeah they had a great great yeah it was nice turn off to to be able to you know awarded very nice a lot of good Awards a lot of uh hair you know um different uh for the the stabbing that was up at uh the mall up there or that uh that place over on 11th on 11th over there and then some awards for the heroic heroic actions that they've done so it was a great great turnout and it was it was honor to be there and to support our our great uh EMTs and firefighters all right next meeting is March 18th by call for adjournment motion motion council member McKenzie second second council member Woods all those in favor say I I I opposed that's it thank you very much thank you