YOU . >> GOOD EVENING AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US HERE IN PERSON. THOSE WATCHING ONLINE, LET'S START WHERE IT DUCHESS GOING AROUND THE ROOM STARTING WITH OUR CITY CLERK BILLY TINES, DEPUTY CITY CLERK ANDREA LESLIE, CITY ATTORNEY GOOD EVENING VICTORIA WATLINGTON MEMBER AT LARGE JAMES MITCHELL MAYOR PRO TEM MARCUS JONES CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY OWENS REPRESENTING DISTRICT SIX MALCOLM GRAHAM DISTRICT TWO. >> GOOD EVENING LAWANDA MAYFIELD COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE. >> GOOD EVENING JD MY SWEET IDEAS DISTRICT FIVE AND I HAVE TWO OUTSTANDING COLLEAGUES WHO ARE GOING TO JOIN US. >> MISS ASMA DIMPLE AJMERA AT LARGE MISS MAIL COUNCILMEMBER JOY MAIO REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE FOR OUR BUSINESS MEETING AGENDA REVIEW. I'M A TURN IT OVER CITY MANAGER TO YOU TO INTRODUCE THE ONE AND ONLY. >> OKAY SO THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM WE'LL START OFF WITH OUR AGENDA OF REVIEW WHERE WE'LL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FROM MARIE AND I'LL SAY AFTER THAT WE HAVE A PRETTY STACKED AGENDA TODAY WE HAVE THE CATS BUDGET OUTLOOK AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE MADE THEIR WAY THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS LIKE THE STREET VENDING REGULATION, THE SAFETY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE PASSENGER VEHICLE FOR HIRE ORDINANCE FROM THE SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE HOUSING TRUST FUND FROM THE HOUSING COMMITTEE . AND WE'LL HAVE A STELLAR AWARDS UPDATE. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS FOR TODAY AND MAYBE TEN TIM UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARIE. >> OKAY. ONE IF I MAY, THE DISTINGUISHED COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT SEVEN JOINED US HERE IN THE DEUCE HIMSELF ED DRIGGS DISTRICT SEVEN GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU MR. DRAKE. >> MISS HARRIS. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL AND AT YOUR SEAT YOUR FINE. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND SOME OF THE CONSENT ITEMS AND CLARIFICATIONS YOU'VE ASKED FOR THIS EVENING. AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY HIGHLIGHTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THANKS MARIE I HAD A QUESTION ON ITEM 26 THE REAL ESTATE LEGAL SERVICES I WANT TO KNOW WHY DID WE RECEIVE ONLY ONE RESPONSE TO THIS RFP AND WHAT FUTURE LIKE ARE WE ENSURING THAT THERE IS A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN TERMS OF AVOIDING SOUL SOURCE PATTERNS? >> GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT AND YES, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR VENDORS REGISTERED RECENTLY WE HAD ONE VENDOR THAT WE HAD A CONTRACT WITH THAT WITHDREW THEIR RETIRING SO WE DID DEFINITELY WE WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE SO WE HAVE FOUR AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT AGAIN HERE SHORTLY. TO YOUR POINT SINCE WE ONLY HAVE ONE TO HOPEFULLY GET AT LEAST ONE MORE. >> THANK YOU MARY AND AMERICANS OVER MY MAY I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION RIGHT. >> YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE IT FOR AGENDA ITEM 33 AIRPORT CUSTOMER SUPPORT SERVICES FOR TERMINAL OPERATIONS A CONTRACT WITH VIP HOSPITALITY LLC SINCE THIS IS A SUBCONTRACTOR POTENTIALLY HIRED BY THE CITY, HOW ARE WE ENSURING THAT THEY ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE GOOD WAGES, BENEFITS AND SAFETY STANDARDS TO THEIR EMPLOYEES? >> SO AS FAR AS THE SAFETY AND TRAINING, THEY DEFINITELY ARE TRAINED BY OUR STAFF ON THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF THEIR DUTY AND WHILE WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO DICTATE YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH VENDORS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN THIS ONE THE LOWEST WAGE WOULD BE $17 AN HOUR AND THAT'S WHERE ENTRY LEVEL WITH NO EXPERIENCE. SO THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND THEY HAVE BENEFITS IN RETIREMENT AND TIME OFF WITH THEIR EMPLOYER. >> THANK YOU, MARY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU DR. WATLINGTON THANK YOU, SIR MARIE THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I ASKED EARLIER BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLARIFICATIONS WERE ON THE RECORD WHEN IT COMES TO ITEMS 38, 33 AND 24 THEY ALL ARE LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF DESIGN SERVICES OR SOME SORT OF ON CALL SERVICES. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC THE THE DELINEATION BETWEEN THEM BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME HERE THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO CAPO, SOME THAT ARE MECHANICAL IN DESIGN SERVICES FOR ONGOING CITY THINGS AND AS WE THINK ABOUT THE WORK GOING FORWARD WITH THE 19 BILLION IN REVENUE COMING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE BUCKETS SIT BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FEDERAL AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CBI CONNECTION AT ALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR BECAUSE THERE WERE A FEW ITEMS HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONFUSING. >> YES, THANK YOU AND FOR THE GOOD OF THE PUBLIC ANY OF THEM THAT CURRENTLY HAVE FEDERAL GOALS WE THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE SEVERE GOALS AND TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, THERE'S ONE ON HERE THAT IS FUNDED BY THE OPERATING GENERAL FUND AND IT'S NOT I MEAN WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE CBI BUT IT'S ONE THAT THERE'S THEY'RE DOING 100% THE WORK SO THERE WASN'T A SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITY BUT TO YOUR POINT YES WE DEFINITELY DO HAVE THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE WHERE IT'S ALLOWED AND JUST SO FOLKS AS THEY'RE LOOKING THROUGH THESE ITEMS, THE THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE WORK THAT WE'RE SAYING IS TIED TO THE UPCOMING SALES TAX REVENUE THAT WE'LL BE GETTING OVER THE NEXT 20 OR SO YEARS AT 19 BILLION. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THAT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ENSURE PARTICIPATE IN GOALS ARE MET. SO I JUST WANT FOLKS TO BE CLEAR THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE IS NOT THAT THAT CONVERSATION IS STILL OUTSTANDING CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYFIELD. WELCOME BACK. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM MARIA I HAVE A FOLLOW UP OR ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON NUMBER 33. >> YES, MA'AM. FOR THIS SUPPORT SERVICES DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VENDOR THAT'S DOING THIS WORK? >> IS THIS A NEW CONTRACT SO LET ME LOOK AT THE THING WE ARE CHOOSING A NEW VENDOR AND AS YOU IDENTIFY THAT MAINLY WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IS WE RECENTLY THERE WAS AN ARTICLE WHERE WE HAVE A VENDOR AT THE AIRPORT WHERE A NEW VENDOR WAS IDENTIFIED BASED ON CAUSE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT PROTECTS OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES SO THAT THEY ARE FIRST ON THE LIST FOR A TRANSITION. WHEN WE MAKE A DECISION TO GO WITH A NEW CONTRACT TO ENSURE EMPLOYABILITY VERSUS JUST ASKING THEM TO CONSIDER THEIR CURRENT EMPLOYEES AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL CONSTRAINTS ON THAT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT COMPANIES AND OTHERS THAT ARE DOING LAYOFFS ALL THE WHILE NOT ONLY WITH THIS CHARLOTTE BUT WITHIN THE REGION AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT IS HAVING AND THAT COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP FOR OUR ATTORNEY TO JUST LOOK AT OUR LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME PROTECTIONS IN PLACE THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF. >> MARIE NOT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE EXISTING BUT THIS IS A CURRENT PROJECT, A CURRENT SERVICE ARRANGEMENT IS A NEW VENDOR SHOWS A RFP AND THIS IS A NEW VENDOR AWARDED SO THE CURRENT VENDOR WE ARE NOW IDENTIFYING A NEW VENDOR TO TAKE OVER THIS CONTRACT. DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PROTECTIONS OR LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES ARE THE ONES IDENTIFIED BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ANNUAL EXPENDITURE TO BE AROUND 3.5 MILLION FOR THIS AND EVEN WE'RE SAYING A MINIMUM PAY OF 17 EVEN THOUGH BY LAW WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY PAY WE SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE CURRENT EMPLOYEES ARE NOT DISPLACED DURING THIS AND WE CAN SURE TONY, BY NOW I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SENDING THIS EARLIER TO GIVE YOU ALL TIME TO REVIEW IT BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF THAT RIGHT NOW PRIOR TO IT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON IN THIS ONE THAT I'M GOING TO BE ASKING FOR AS THE PULL THIS ASIDE IN ORDER TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO AND I KNOW WE CAN'T WELL DON'T SPEAK FOR THE ATTORNEY BUT LEGALLY WE CAN'T BUT WE ENCOURAGE USUALLY THEM TO REVIEW THE EXISTING STAFF BUT SOMETIMES THE EXISTING STAFF WANT TO STAY WITH THEIR PARENT COMPANY AND DON'T WANT TO COME TO US. SO IT'S DIFFERENT SITUATION IS CASE BY CASE. BUT NO THERE'S WE DID SHUT DOWN. >> OKAY SO THAT'S HELPFUL. SO AND THAT'S SOMETHING ATTORNEY BY YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON AND THANK YOU AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY THEY SAW OUR WONDERFUL PARTNERS INVOLVED THAT WE HAVE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAVING REAL CONVERSATION AND ON IF WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY A NEW PARTNER AND THAT IS FOR A SERVICE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED THAT WE ARE MAKING SURE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY WE ARE PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS CAUSE OUR RESIDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING TAXES HERE SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A LARGE WORKFORCE THAT NOT ONLY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR CITY BUT ALSO YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE YOUR JOB HAS BEEN ELIMINATED. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM SO COUNCIL MAY IS IT STILL YOUR PLEASURE? WE PULL ITEM 33? >> YES. OKAY. YES SIR. >> ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER JD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THIS QUESTION IS FOR ATTORNEY LESLIE FIGHT WHAT IS OUR MINIMUM WAGE IS A CITY $24 IT IS 24 NOT ANY $4 AND THIS IS MORE SO JUST CURIOSITY UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE HIRE SUBCONTRACT CARE WHAT IS THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE THE SUBCONTRACT OR TO SET THEIR WAGES TO OUR STANDARD IF WE'RE HIRING THEM OR WE'RE HAVING A CONTRACT WITH THEM? SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE LEGALITY AND I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT I WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD. >> SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO SO BY STATE LAW CITIES AREN'T ABLE TO SET THE CONTRACT OR THE WAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR SUBCONTRACTORS OR ANY CONTRACT RELATIONSHIP. OUR OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE WAGES IS SIMPLY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT THAT IS UNDER STATE LAW NOW WE'LL SAY THE CITY DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH ENCOURAGING VENDORS TO TO HAVE TRAININGS AND AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED HERE TODAY. BUT AS FAR AS WAGES, THOSE ARE PROHIBITED BY STATE LAW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT TO MAKE SURE IT'S ON THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT AS MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMEMBER MAYFIELD SAID, THANKS TO OUR WONDERFUL PARTNERS AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO SET CERTAIN WAGES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO. >> BUT THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM SO CITY COUNCIL BEAR WITH ME BUT I LIKE TO GET A MOTION AND SO WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DEFERRED SO WALK WITH ME IF YOU DON'T MIND ITEMS 44 THROUGH 47 THOSE PROPERTIES TRANSACTIONS HAVE BEEN DEFERRED AS WELL AS ITEM 49. THEY WILL BE DEFERRED TO APRIL 27 AND WE HAVE POOL ITEM 33 SO MAY I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE REST OF THE CONSENT ITEMS SO MOVED MOVING PROP A SECOND BUT MAYBE I MUST ADDRESS SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ASMIR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN TO SAY NO I OPPOSE YES. >> OKAY. AND I COUNCILMEMBER FOR ITEM 33 IS THERE A MOTION FIVE AND 33 MY APOLOGIES MAYOR PRO TEM MY KNOW MY PART FOR SOME REASON KEEPS FREEZING ON ME. WHEN I WAS TRYING TO SCROLL BACK TO IT MAYBE LET ME JUST ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AS WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE AIRPORT IS WOULD THERE BE ANY CHALLENGES IF WE WERE TO DO A DEFERRAL FOR OUR NEXT BUSINESS MEETING? >> YES, IT MIGHT BE A SERVICE LAPSE. SO IN OUR ABILITY TO HANDLE THE FLOW OF THE PUBLIC AS WELL SO WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PREVIOUS THE CURRENT VENDOR AND IT'S COMING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR US TO VOTE ON TONIGHT AND WE DID NOT LEAVE ANY WIGGLE WIGGLE ROOM IN CASE THERE WAS ANY CONVERSATION TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE LOSS OF SERVICE. >> IT WOULDN'T BE LOST BUT IT COULD BE SAID SERVICE DISAGGREGATION BECAUSE WE HAD TO GET THEM UP AND TRAINED AND HAVE SOME OVERLAP. SO WE'RE WE'RE STILL HAVING THAT OTHER CONTRACT WE WANT TO TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE UP. >> SO AS YOU FIRE ME YOU WANT ME TO TRAIN YOU ON HOW TO DO MY JOB. >> OKAY, JUST TRAIN JUST FOR THAT JUST TO SAY YOU KNOW, THEY TRAIN ABOUT NOT BY EACH OTHER THE CONTRACTORS DON'T TRAIN THE OTHER ONES BUT THE OKAY, JUST VERIFY I'M NOT GOING TO BE MOTION IN TO APPROVE THIS SO SOMEBODY'S GONNA NEED TO DO THAT. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE CAN MOVED BY COUNCIL MAJORITY SACRAMENT COUNCILMEMBER GRAHAM FOR ITEM NUMBER 33 ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LET IT BE KNOWN BUT RAISE YOUR HAND OKAY ALTHOUGH OPPOSE OKAY THAT PASSES OKAY THANK YOU. WAIT A MINUTE. DR. WHAT? NO NO JACK DON'T. >> NO, NO, NO, NO. THIS IS YOUR PRAISE REPORT. DR. WATLINGTON JUST INFORMED ME THAT CHIEF INFRASTRUCTURE OFFICER JACK CHRISTIE HAS BEEN AWARDED AND NAMED A RECIPIENT OF 2026 OUTSTANDING AIR POOR PROFESSIONAL OF THE YEAR PLEASE SPEECH SPEECH. NO, THANK YOU. SEE, IT'S THE FIRST ONE. YEAH, I THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JACK. FIRST OF ALL, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. ANY WORDS YOU LIKE TO SHARE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ALL I WILL SAY IS THAT I'VE HAD A WONDERFUL BLESSED OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR THIS AIRPORT IN THISIS CITY FOR THE LAST 29 YEARS. THAT AWARD IS AS MUCH ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH AND THE SACRIFICES THAT MY FAMILY HAS MADE ON ALL THOSE 29 YEARS AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FOR ME IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I WILL CHERISH ESPECIALLY SINCE IS NAMED AFTER SOMEONE THAT I HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. >> SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS SIR. THANK YOU. >> CITY MANAGER MY TURN IT OVER YOU FOR THE EXTRA PREVIEW ITEMS . THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM WE'LL START OFF WITH THE KATZ BUDGET PRESENTATION AND MAYOR PRO TEM AND AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. IT'S A REALLY GREAT DAY HERE IN CHARLOTTE FOR THIS PRESENTATION. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THE THANKS TO THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL THE VISION AND THE RESOLVE TO STAY THE COURSE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY THAT PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL THAT BELIEVED IN MOBILITY AS OUR FUTURE. THIS IS THE UPCOMING BUDGET THAT WILL BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 30 YEAR TRANSIT PLAN. THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT 30 YEARS TO SEE THINGS. OKAY. YOU WOULD YOU'LL SEE THE 1% SALES TAX WILL BE LEVIED ON JULY 1ST. SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CURRENT SINCE SALES TAX AT ARTICLE 43 AND ARTICLE 34 IS THE 1% SALES TAX AND IN THIS BUDGET WHICH BRINGS KATZ YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB THERE'S A PRIORITIZATION AROUND SAFETY AND SECURITY OF COURSE ADVANCING THE RED LINE TO 30% AND EXECUTING THE BETTER BUS. SO YOU WILL SEE MANY IMPROVEMENTS ESSENTIALLY IMMEDIATELY. I MEAN ALL OF THIS IS WELL MANAGED DEPARTMENT AND AND I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE EMPTY REPRESENTATIVE HERE TODAY AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAND OVER TO YOU A OF AN ENTITY AND SOUND FINANCIAL FOOTING AND BRAND. I CAN'T BEGIN TO THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE TEAM THAT YOU PULLED TOGETHER TO PUT US IN THIS PLACE. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS BUDGET IT'LL BE HALF OF THE YEAR COUNCIL OPERATIONS WILL FALL UNDER THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE FISCAL YEAR THE OPERATIONS WILL FALL UNDER THE NEW AUTHORITY. WE'RE BUILDING THIS BUDGET TOGETHER WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BUT AGAIN A VERY, VERY GOOD DAY. AND MAYOR PRO TEM I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO BRETT. >> MR. CAGLE WELCOME SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING. I'M BRANT CAGLE, INTERIM CEO OF KATZ. NOT TO CORRECT MY BOSS BUT WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS OF THE PTA HERE SO I RECOGNIZE REVEREND MACK AND AND ED CURRAN, BOTH MEMBERS OF THE PTA FINANCE COMMITTEE. >> SO LET ME BRING THOSE TWO INDIVIDUAL PLEASE STATE I MEAN WE DON'T KNOW YET BUT I THINK SO CAN YOU PLEASE STAY TO BE RECOGNIZED? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR OKAY. I'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY. MR. JONES, DID A GREAT JOB. I THINK HE TOOK ALL OF THE MAJOR POINTS THAT I HAD SO THIS IS GOING TO BE EASY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS PRETTY QUICKLY REALLY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE LAST FOUR YEARS OR SO WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING OUR BUDGETS AND OUR ACTIONS ON FUNDAMENTALS PEOPLE ASSETS SAFETY AND SECURITY AND IN THE TRANSIT WORLD ASSETS YOU'LL HEAR US SAY STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AGAIN PEOPLE ASSETS STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND SAFETY AND SECURITY. >> WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THAT FOR MANY YEARS AND THIS BUDGET IS NO EXCEPTION. WE DO FEEL LIKE WHERE THE BUDGET HELPS US BUILD ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE AND TO ENABLE US TO START DELIVERING THE PROMISES THAT WERE VOTED FOR AS PART OF THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM BACK IN NOVEMBER. >> SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET. THIS IS AN INTERESTING BUDGET YEAR IN THAT WE ARE IMPROVING PRESENTING A 12 MONTH FULL FISCAL YEAR BUDGET TO YOU. BUT THIS BUDGET WILL BE MARKED BY TWO GOVERNING BODIES WE BELIEVE THROUGHOUT THAT 12 MONTH FULL FISCAL YEAR. >> SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET . FIRST OF ALL, OUR BUDGET LOOKS AT HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT SERVICES WE PROVIDE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE DOING THAT? SECOND, WE LOOK AT HOW WE EXPAND TO SERVICE VIA THE 2055 TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN OR TSP. >> WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED BACK IN NOVEMBER. AND THIRD CATEGORY WE'RE CALLING STRENGTHEN ORGANIZATIONS CAPACITY AND RESILIENCE. SEE THESE ARE THE INCREASES NECESSARY TO HELP US BECOME PART OF AN AUTHORITY OR CONVERSELY NO LONGER PART OF THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE. >> RIGHT. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT CATS RECEIVE FROM THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE, RIGHT? CERTAIN CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT THAT ALL DEPARTMENTS GET AS BEING PART OF THE LARGER ORGANIZATION THAT WE WILL STILL NEED. BUT NOW WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE FUNCTIONS INDEPENDENTLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PART OF THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE. >> SO SO AGAIN ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY AND RESILIENCE TO SOME DEGREE WHAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION POSSIBLE? OKAY. >> LET'S START WITH THE REVENUES I WILL WALK THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY. TRANSIT REVENUE ARE THE REVENUES WE GENERATE INTERNALLY FAREBOX REVENUES, ADVERTISING REVENUES ALL THE THINGS THAT TRANSIT GENERATES AS PART OF OUR FUNCTION. >> SO TOTAL PROJECTED TRANSIT GENERATED REVENUE IS $18.8 MILLION ON THE LOCAL SALES TAX SIDE OR ON THE LOCAL TAX SIDE. >> ARTICLE 43 REVENUES THAT IS THE EXISTING HALF CENT SALES TAX THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1998 ARE PROJECTED TO GENERATE $165.7 MILLION. ARTICLE 34 REVENUES THAT IS THE NEW SALES TAX REVENUE PROJECTED TO GENERATE $198.9 MILLION AND THEN THE YOU DRIVE IT RENTAL TAX PROJECTED TO GENERATE $20.1 MILLION. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAVE PROJECTED STATE GRANTS AT 9.2 MILLION IN FEDERAL GRANTS AT 56.1 MILLION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE HERE THAT WE THIS THE REVENUES AND THE EXPENDITURE IS THIS IS A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET. >> WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE DRAWING DOWN FROM OUR CASH RESERVES. >> IN FACT IT'S JUST THE OPPOSITE. WE BELIEVE THAT WITH THIS REVENUE PROJECTION WE WILL BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR CASH RESERVES TO ENABLE US TO DO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN OVER THE NEXT FIVE, TEN, 15, 25 YEARS. >> WE I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT AT THIS TIME WE HAVE TENTATIVELY PLANNED FOR AN ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATE ATION OR COPS THAT IS TENTATIVE . THOSE COPS MAY BE PUSHED TO FISCAL YEAR 2028. IT IS THOSE COPS WOULD BE FOR VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DELIVERY SCHEDULE WHAT THE CURRENT ORDERS ARE ALREADY AND WITH THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE COPS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT IS A POSSIBILITY BUT IT IS ONLY TENTATIVE AT THIS POINT . WHOOPS WITH THE WRONG WAY. OKAY. THIS IS A CHART SHOWING ARTICLE 34 AND 43 SALES TAX REVENUE PROJECTIONS. REALLY WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW THIS TO UNDERSCORE THE SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAM THAT ARTICLE 34 PRESENTS AND IN F Y 2027 WE PROJECT A TOTAL SALES TAX REVENUE STREAM OF 365 MILLION AND THEN GROWING AT A ROUGHLY 4% RATE OF GROWTH BOTH TAXES BEYOND THAT TOTAL OPERATING AND CAPITAL REVENUES BY FISCAL YEAR. SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS SLIDE. THIS SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE SALES TAXES WHICH ARE VERY, VERY EVEN AND GROW AT A PREDICTABLE RATE ABOUT 4% SOMETIMES A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT GENERALLY 4%. BUT WHAT THIS SHOWS IS ALL REVENUES. AND SO YOU'LL NOTE IN FY 2027 WE PROJECT 572 MILLION OF TOTAL REVENUES. >> BUT THEN IF YOU NOTE F Y 2030 A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN REVENUES $846 MILLION. >> WHAT THAT REALLY SHOWS IS THE EFFECT OF ADDITIONAL FEDERAL GRANTS AND ISSUING REVENUE BONDS, RIGHT? SO WHEN WE ISSUE REVENUE BONDS ,THE REVENUE BOND REVENUES COME IN AND THAT INCREASES REVENUES WITHOUT RELEASING THE LINE IS THAT IS LIKELY THE FIRST THE FIRST YEAR OF SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION ON THE RED LINE AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT SO THAT THE FEDERAL GRANTS WOULD BE COMING IN IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY, THE FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THE RED LINE WOULD BE COMING IN AS WELL AS WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ISSUING REVENUE BONDS OUT THERE IN THE 2030 YEAR. >> AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT THE THE SALES TAX REVENUES ARE PREDICTABLE AND GROW AT A FAIRLY STANDARD PACE. BUT THEN TOTAL REVENUES CAN GO UP AND DOWN BASED ON PROJECT GRANTS, FEDERAL GRANTS AND REVENUE BONDS EXPENDITURE YEAR . >> SO FOR THE FIRST YEAR FISCAL YEAR 2027 WE PROJECT A TOTAL OF $571.7 MILLION OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES. THAT BREAKS DOWN AS 314.1 MILLION IN OPERATING EXPENSES 224.9 MILLION IN CAPITAL EXPENSES 18.1 MILLION IN EXISTING DEBT SERVICE THAT IS DEBT SERVICE ON DEBT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ISSUED AND THEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE JUST UNDER $15 MILLION BEING TRANSFERRED TO OUR RESERVE ACCOUNT OR TO THE CASH BALANCES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. SO OUR OPERATING BUDGET AGAIN YOU'LL SEE IT SEPARATED OUT INTO THESE THREE PRIMARY CATEGORIES AGAIN WITH A FOCUS ON PEOPLE ASSETS AND SAFETY. WE ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL ASSOCIATE IT WITH THE 2055 TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN THAT IS PRIMARILY THOSE PERSONNEL ARE TWO SUPPORT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WILL START TO MOVE FORWARD THE RED LINE AND THE SILVER LINE ARE THE FIRST TWO OF THOSE AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL OPERATORS AND SUPPORT STAFF FOR BETTER BUS WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST ELEMENT OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN THAT WE ARE REALLY ABLE TO OPERATE, ANALYZE AND PUT OUT INTO COMMUNITIES SO THAT THEY SEE THOSE DIFFERENCES STRENGTHENING THE ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY AND RESILIENCE AGAIN PERSONNEL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ALSO TECHNOLOGY AGAIN THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE WE USE THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE TECHNOLOGY AS PART OF AN AUTHORITY. WE NEED OUR OWN TECHNOLOGY AND SO TECHNOLOGY EXPENSES AS WELL AS OTHER MANAGED SERVICES EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH CRITICAL FUNCTIONS GETTING INTO SOME OF THE DETAIL ARE OUR TOTAL F Y 27 OPERATING BUDGET IS $314.1 MILLION TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SERVICES SO IT'S 286.4 THE TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN IS 8.3 MILLION AND ORGANIZATIONAL RESILIENCY AND CAPACITY IS $19.3 MILLION. >> THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING SLIDE AND I STRUGGLED ON HOW TO DESCRIBE THIS SLIDE SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SLIDE AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THAT SLIDE . SO I'LL GO BACK BECAUSE I KNOW AS MOVING FAST THIS SHOWS OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES FOR THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE AND WHAT THIS IS REALLY SAYING IS WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL 12 MONTH BUDGET, WE BELIEVE THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE'S OPERATING EXPENSES BUDGET WILL COMPRISE ABOUT 50% OF OUR 12 MONTH BUDGET OR UNTIL JANUARY 1ST OF 2027. >> SO FISCAL YEAR STARTS JULY 1ST 2026. WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH A JANUARY FIRST 2027 THAT HALF OF THE BUDGET IS FOR THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE NOTHING BEYOND THAT. >> AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE PROJECTING THE REST OF THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE EMPTY AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN 2027 IS THE OTHER HALF OF THAT 12 MONTH BUDGET PLUS FUTURE BUDGET BUDGETED EXPENDITURES BEYOND THAT, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING THE MONEY ON? SAFETY AND SECURITY IS A PRIORITY. >> WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION BUDGETED FOR OFF DUTY C MPD SUPPORT THAT IS AGAIN THE FULL YEAR COST. WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION PROGRAMED FOR FARE ENFORCEMENT A DEDICATED UNIT TO GO THROUGH AND INCREASE FAIR ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM NOT JUST ON RAIL BUT BUS AND RAIL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TRANSIT SYSTEM. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION FOR MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE EXPANSIONS $6 MILLION IN SUPPORT OF BETTER BUS, $4 MILLION INCREASE TO SUPPORT OUR STATE OF GOOD REPAIRS IN OUR FACILITIES GROUP AND THEN AGAIN APPROXIMATELY $19 MILLION FOR THE ORGANIZATION CAPACITY AND RESILIENCE THAT IS REALLY TARGETED STAFFING FOR NEW FUNCTIONS SELECTIVE OUTSOURCING ,MANAGED SERVICES AND SYSTEM UPGRADES TO SUSTAIN RELIABILITY AND COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL RELIABILITY OF THE SYSTEM AND COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL GUIDELINES A LITTLE BIT DEEPER DIVE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING BETWEEN 12 AND 1400 HOURS A WEEK OF OFF DUTY C MPD OFFICERS. THIS WILL CONTINUE THE PROGRAM ACTUALLY EVERY WEEK SO FAR FOR THIS MONTH AND EVERY WEEK EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY WE'VE SEEN MORE THAN 1400 HOURS OR MORE. WE WILL CONTINUE THAT PROGRAM INTO NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THEN AGAIN OUR AMBASSADORS THAT IS AN INCREASE OF TEN OF APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION FROM THE CURRENT YEAR TO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. NOW I WILL NOTE THAT IT'S ABOUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2020 TO 20 20 TO 2023, IT'S TAKING OUR TOTAL SECURITY SPEND FROM ABOUT $10 MILLION BACK THEN TO ABOUT $30 MILLION IN THIS BUDGET. NEXT WE'LL TALK ABOUT STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AGAIN, THIS IS DOING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SAID THAT WE NEEDED TO DO. IT'S INCREASING OUR FACILITIES BUDGET THIS YEAR CONSTITUTES APPROXIMATELY A 50 5% INCREASE IN OUR FACILITY SPENDING AND NEARLY DOUBLING AND IT WILL NEARLY DOUBLE OUR SPEND BY F Y 2028 THE TRUCK OVERHAUL PROJECT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE 2023. THAT PROJECT IS THE THE OLDEST VEHICLES THAT HAD BEEN UNMAINTAINED ARE ALMOST THERE ALMOST COMPLETE WITH FULL MAINTENANCE AND UP TO DATE AND THE CONTRACT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE MOVING THROUGH WITH THE NEWER VEHICLES YOU'LL RECALL ARE OUR LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES HAVE TWO SERIES THE FIRST SERIES THE 1 IN 2 SERIES WE PURCHASED WHEN THE BLUE LINE WAS WAS NEW THE ORIGINAL BLUE LINE THE SECOND SERIES WE PURCHASED WITH THE BLUE LINE EXTENSION. SO THE FIRST TWO SERIES THE ORIGINAL VEHICLES WERE OVERDUE. THEY'RE NOW CAUGHT UP AND WILL BE CAUGHT OUT BUT THE CONTRACT ALLOWS US TO THEN MOVE IN TO THE NEWER SERIES OF VEHICLES TO ENSURE THAT THEY DO NOT COME OUT OF MAINTENANCE COMPLIANCE. WE ALSO ARE FOCUSING ON HOW WE I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF WHAT NEXT SLIDE? >> SO WE ARE ALSO FOCUSING ON BETTER BUS MICRO TRANSIT AND SPECIAL TRANSPORTATION SERVICES . WE HAVE SEEN A 48% INCREASE IN ENROLLMENTS FOR SPECIAL TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. ESTES SO WE ARE ADDING STAFF AND ADDING VEHICLES TO BETTER SUPPORT THE DEMAND OF ESTES THIS BUDGET WILL ADD 30,000 BUS SERVICE HOURS. >> IT'S ABOUT A 5% INCREASE IN TOTAL BUS SERVICE HOURS AND ALLOWS US TO START TO CONVERT THOSE 15 LARGEST ROUTES. NOT ALL OF THEM BUT SOME OF THEM DOWN TO 15 MINUTE SERVICE. AS WE SAID WE WOULD THE YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBER OF ROUTES IN FUTURE YEARS INCREASE ABOVE THIS YEAR. THE BIGGEST LIMITING FACTOR FOR US TODAY THIS BUDGET FOCUSES ON HIRING OPERATORS BUT THEY'RE LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE HAVE SO WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THE SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS TODAY BY HIRING OPERATORS. >> BUT AT SOME POINT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES SO THIS BUDGET WILL ALSO PURCHASE VEHICLES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS RAMPING UP EVEN MORE OVER THE NEXT TWO AND THREE, FOUR AND FIVE YEARS. OKAY. ON THE CAPITAL SIDE YOU NEED TWO QUESTIONS ON THE OPERATING SIDE BEFORE WE DO THE CAPITAL. THIS IS A LONG PRESENTATION TO YOU, MY COUNCIL. >> I JUST WANT TO KEEP THE CAPITAL SEPARATE FROM THE OPERATIONS. SO THAT IS IT'S A LONG PRESENTATION AND I'M JUST AFRAID IF WE START QUESTIONS WE MIGHT NOT GET THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. SO CAN YOU GIVE US SOME GRACE? I PROMISE YOU FIRST WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> YOU JUST SAY I GOT I GOT TWO AND A HALF. >> I GOT YOU. >> GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, MR. CRAIG. ALL RIGHT. SO AGAIN, CAPITAL BUDGET YOU SEE IT BROKEN DOWN INTO THE THREE CATEGORIES SUPPORTING CURRENT SERVICES, EXPANDING SERVICES FOR TSP AND THEN STRENGTHENING ORGANIZATION'S CAPACITY AND RESILIENCE AGAIN, I WON'T REMIND YOU WHAT THOSE ARE ABOUT. >> WE'LL JUST DIVE RIGHT INTO THE DETAILS. >> TOTAL CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ESTIMATED FOR FY 27 ARE $224.9 MILLION SO JUST SHY OF 225 MILLION THAT 66.1 MILLION FOR EXISTING SERVICE $129.6 MILLION FOR TRANSIT SYSTEM PLAN AND ABOUT 29.2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR RESILIENCY AND MOST OF THAT 29.2 MILLION IS IN SOFTWARE SYSTEMS NECESSARY ESPECIALLY H.R. AND FINANCIAL SYSTEMS NECESSARY FOR THE MEETING EXCUSE ME AGAIN THIS SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE CITY'S PART OF THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL AND THEN THE IMPETUS PART OF THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROGRAM. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THAT PROJECTS AND I PROMISE I'LL I'LL PICK IT UP BECAUSE I HEAR THERE'S AT LEAST TWO QUESTIONS IN STORE MAYBE MAYBE MORE SOUTHEAST STATION SEEN A LOT ABOUT THE SOUTH IS STATION AND THIS IS A NEW STATION ON THE BLUE LINE. IT'S ROUGHLY RIGHT AROUND THE PUBLIX AREA. THIS STATION WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR COST REASONS AND THIS DUE TO GROWTH IN THE AREA AND DEMAND THIS WILL ESTABLISH THE SOUTH END STATION ALL IN THE PROJECT IS ABOUT $37 MILLION AND IT WILL ADD A NEW STATION PLATFORM A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. IT WILL COMPLETE THE RAIL TRAIL SEGMENT IN THAT AREA AND IT WILL COMPLETE SOME SPECIAL TRACK WORK A CROSSOVER IN THAT AREA WHICH OPERATIONALLY IS GOOD FOR CATS ALLOWING FOR A CROSSOVER IN THAT AREA HAMBRICK PARK AND RIDE THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION ALL IN IT IS UNDERWAY THIS IS A MODERN PARK AND RIDE IN HUNTERSVILLE RIGHT AT HANBURY ROAD AND THE AND THE I-77 NORTH TOLL LANE DIRECT CONNECT EXIT THERE AT HANBURY THIS BRINGS ABOUT 450 PARKING SPACES DRIVER BREAK ROOMS INTERNAL PATHWAYS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE AROUND MICROMOBILITY AND SHARED RIDE AREAS IT WILL BE HAVE FULL TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITIES WITH CAMERAS, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FEATURES AND IT WILL FEATURE ART IN TRANSIT. I WILL NOTE THAT THIS IS ALSO A GREAT COLLABORATOR EXAMPLE OF A GREAT COLLABORATIVE PROJECT WITH HUNTERSVILLE AS WELL AS IN CDOT. THE LAND WAS DONATED BY CDOT FOR THIS PARK AND RIDE AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH HUNTERSVILLE AS WE'RE BUILDING, DESIGNING AND BUILDING THIS PARK AND RIDE SAFETY AND TECHNOLOGY. THE SAFETY AND TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS ARE SPREAD ACROSS ALL OF THE YEARS. I'LL MENTION A COUPLE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ONE IS A CONSOLIDATED CONTROL CENTER FOR ALL OF OUR SAFETY FUNCTIONS. YOU MAY RECALL I REFER TO SOMETIMES THE ROCK THE RAIL OPERATIONS CONTROL CENTER AND SOMETIMES I REFER TO THE BACK THE BUS OPERATIONS CONTROL CENTER. WE WANT ONE CONTROL CENTER AND SO THIS WILL THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AND BETTER FOR OUR SAFETY AND SECURITY AND OUR OPERATORS AS WE MOVE FORWARD SO THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SAFETY AND TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS MOVING FORWARD IS THE CONSOLES STATION OF THE TWO CONTROL CENTERS THAT ARE BUS. >> WE WILL BEGIN THE PURCHASES FOR FUTURE EXPANSION SO WE'LL PLACE THE ORDERS FOR THE BUSSES WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 70 MILLION DOLLARS IN THIS BUDGET FOR BUS PURCHASES TAKES ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO GET BUSSES. SO WE'RE PLACING THOSE ORDERS NOW AND INSIDE OF THIS BUDGET WE WOULD ANTICIPATE MAKING AT LEAST IF NOT MORE IMPROVEMENTS TO 100 BUS STOPS THROUGHOUT CHARLOTTE AND MECKLENBURG COUNTY IN THIS YEAR THERE WILL ULTIMATELY BE MORE THAN 2000 IMPROVEMENTS BUT IN THIS YEAR AT LEAST 100 IF NOT MORE. >> AND I CAN TELL YOU IF WE GET AS WE LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND DO THIS FASTER IF WE GET 100 DONE AND WE'RE NOT THROUGH WITH THE YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING. >> WE WILL NOT STOP. WE'LL KEEP MOVING BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO EXPEDITE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUS SHELTERS THROUGHOUT CHARLOTTE RED LINE COMMUTER RAIL PROJECT THIS IS THE DESIGN WORK TO BRING THE RED LINE TO 30% DESIGN AND TO START AND COMPLETE THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THE RED LINE SILVER LINE AGAIN 30% DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL WORK FOR THE SILVER LINE CHARLOTTE DOUGLAS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT OVER TO UPTOWN ACROSS TO BOJANGLES WHICH TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AGAIN I MENTIONED THERE IS A LONG OUR LARGE AMOUNT ON THIS FOR TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THE MTA PRIMARILY WORKDAY THE H.R. AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM. SO AGAIN THAT IS DRIVING A LOT OF THOSE F Y 2027 EXPENSES ADOPTION PROCESS NOW THIS IS A FUN SLIDE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON THIS SLIDE. >> OKAY I WILL JUMP RIGHT INTO APRIL AND SAY WE ARE IT'S NOT EVEN ON THIS ONE WE'RE HERE ON THE 13TH TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT STEP WILL BE THE 16TH THE EMPTY A WILL BE MEETING AT THEIR REGULAR SCHEDULED BUSINESS MEETING AND THEY WILL APPROVE SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING A PUBLIC HEARING DATE FOR THEM TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET OR CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS BUDGET ON APRIL 22ND. THAT'S NOT THIS WEDNESDAY BUT A WEEK FROM WEDNESDAY. THE MTC THIS BUDGET WILL GO IN FRONT OF THE MTC AND WE WILL ASK THEM TO ENDORSE AND APPROVE THIS BUDGET PER THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT THEN BRINGS US TO THE 30TH WHERE THE CATS BUDGET IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE STRATEGY AND BUDGET DEPARTMENT FOR INCLUSION IN THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET. ALL OF THAT BRINGS US TO JUNE EIGHT FOR THIS BODY TO CONSIDER THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE INCLUDING CATS BUDGET AND PROJECT ID JUNE 10TH FOR THE EMPTY A TO CONSIDER THE CATS OR TRANSIT BUDGET. WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. >> OKAY GOOD. THANK YOU. BEFORE BEFORE WE GO ROUND THE TABLE AND LET COUNCIL MEMBERS ENGAGE AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER AS SOME COMMENTS BRIEF COMMENTS THAT THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM AND THANKS BRANT I'LL START WITH BRANT LEFT IT IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED TO GET THREE BODIES TO APPROVE ONE BUDGET. >> I STARTED OFF BY SAYING THIS IS A VERY GOOD BUDGET AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S CONSTANT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE THE THREE BODIES I'VE HAD TO STEP UP FOR A MOMENT SO I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT EMPLOYEES ARE NUMBER ONE WITH THIS ABSOLUTELY FULL STOP AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING . BRANT AND I SENT A LETTER OUT TO EMPLOYEES THE BIG THING IS NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR JOB. NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR BENEFITS. NO ONE WILL LOSE THEIR ACCRUED LEAVE OR THE SICK LEAVE BANK. NO ONE LOSES THEIR TENURE. THEY REMAIN IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND THAT'S IN THE ACT AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO KEEP EMPLOYEES FIRST LAST LASTLY THINGS I THINK EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IT'S BEEN GREAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE MTA OFFICERS. I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE EMPTY PTA MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WHILE BRANT WAS TALKING ABOUT 60% OF THE 1% 40% IS COMING TO THE CITY IN THE TOWNS AND THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. THAT'S $100 MILLION IN YEAR ONE. OKAY. AND WITH THAT $100 MILLION ON THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND VISION ZERO LIGHTING SIDEWALK REPAIRS. SOME OF THE SEE SOME OF THE ROAD PROJECTS SO THAT'S AND OFTEN ROADS JUST NOT FORGET ABOUT THE ORPHAN ROADS AND THAT'S BEEN A PART OF THE MOBILITY PLUS PLAN SO TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER THERE'S 60% THAT'S HEADED OVER TO THE PTA BUT 40% THAT'S COMING TO THE CITY AND IN THE SIX TOWNS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR PRO TEM NOW ENTERING THE GAME FROM DISTRICT FIVE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE THEM THANK YOU. GREAT JOB MR. CAGLE YOU'RE A ROCK STAR. >> CERTAINLY YOU MADE PROGRESS ON ALL FRONTS ON SAFETY. YOU MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS ON SAFETY AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE NPT IS DOING TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE BACK IN TO OUR SYSTEM. THERE WERE HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS LAST YEAR THAT WERE POLITICIZED AND NOW THAT IMPACT ON HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE OVERALL OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. AND SO OUR JOB NOW IS TO REBUILD THAT CONFIDENCE AND THAT TRUST THROUGH STRONGER PRESENCE AND I'VE HEARD THAT THERE HAS BEEN STRONGER PRESENCE OF SECURITY. I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN TO SEVERAL TRANSIT STATIONS AND I HAVE SEEN BETTER PRESENCE AND THAT ACTUALLY HELPS US WITH OUR STRONGER OUR BUILDING STRONGER CONFIDENCE IN OUR SYSTEM AND ALSO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HAVING MEASURE AROUND PERCEPTION. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE DATA ON SAFETY BUT PERCEPTION MATTERS. SO IF WE CAN HAVE PERCEPTION AS A REAL PERFORMER IT'S METRICS THAT WILL HELP US BRING THE RIDERS BACK WITH OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM. >> I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON OPERATING SIDE AND THEN I'LL ASK ON THE CAPITAL SIDE I APPRECIATE HOW WE ARE PRIORITIZING BETTER BUS AND BUS SHELTERS AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAD PROMISED TO OUR RESIDENTS LAST NOVEMBER. SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT WE WILL BE DELIVERING AND PRIORITIZING BETTER BUS AS WELL AS RESTORING DIGNITY TO THOSE WHO RIDE OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ESPECIALLY SHELTERS AND IF WE CAN ALSO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WORKING WITH OUR CDOT IN TERMS OF SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL BUS STOPS THAT DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS TO REACH THERE. SO I THINK HAVING THAT COLLABORATION IS IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO RIDE OUR BUS SYSTEM HAVE SAFE INFRASTRUCTURE. >> YES MA'AM. OUR SECOND IN TERMS OF ON THE OPERATING SIDE AS WELL AS CAPITAL SIDE, I KNOW ON THE 100 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS THE 40% THAT THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE IS GETTING FROM THE SALES TAX REVENUE WE ARE ISSUING WE ARE LOOKING TO ISSUE A BOND IS EMPTY DOING SIMILAR WHERE THEY WILL BE ISSUING A BOND TO FRONT LOAD SOME OF THE INVESTMENTS IN OUR TRANSIT. SO YES SO AS THE PTA GETS ESTABLISHED, ONE THING THAT THE PAVE ACT ENABLES IS THE PTA IS NOW ENABLED TO ISSUE REVENUE BONDS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ISSUED FOR TRANSIT IN THE PAST. THAT IS A GAME CHANGER AND WE ARE WORKING TO LOOK AT HOW WE LEVERAGE THOSE THOSE CASH RECEIPTS INTO REVENUE BONDS. PART OF THAT IS JUST ESTABLISHING CREDIT WORTHINESS RIGHT? IT'S A BRAND NEW ENTITY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN RATED. BUT YES, THE PLAN WILL BE TO CREATE A PLAN OF FINANCE THAT LEVERAGES THOSE CASH RECEIPTS INTO REVENUE BONDS. >> WELL THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR BECAUSE THE NEED IS NOW AND IF WE CAN EXPEDITE ANY OF THIS CAPITAL INVESTMENTS NOW THAT WILL HELP US ADDRESS THE TRANSIT BECAUSE TRANSIT IS ULTIMATELY A PATHWAY TO GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO GOOD SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. >> SO IS THIS THE LAST BUDGET THAT THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE OR THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE A SAY IN THIS BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE A SAY THROUGH OUR APPOINTMENT. BUT I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET REVIEW BY THE COUNCIL. >> YES. OKAY. >> WELL I WAS SORELY MISSED THAT PART. >> IT'S THE END OF AN ERA I GUESS AND WHAT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE I KNOW THIS IS IN THE BEGINNING PHASE BUT HAVING A DASHBOARD ON PROGRESS THAT YOU ARE ALL MAKING NOT JUST IN TERMS OF BETTER BUS PROGRAM BUT THE SHELTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT EMPTY IS INVESTING FROM THE OPERATING SIDE AS WELL AS CAPITAL SIDE SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE HOW THEIR SALES TAX DOLLARS WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY FUNDING. >> YES MA'AM I'LL MENTION AND YOU'VE BROUGHT IT UP IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS BUT I WILL MENTION THAT ON APRIL 27TH WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT THAT IS WITH TWO FIRMS LOCHNER AND H.A. BE THAT THOSE TWO CONTRACTS TOGETHER THE INTENT IS TO UTILIZE THEM TO HELP US FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO SPEED DELIVERY AND TO DO THINGS EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID DASHBOARDS AND REPORTING ON PROJECT STATUS THAT'S GREAT. AND YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT INVESTING IN OUR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AND I APPRECIATE THIS DATA VERY SHOWS THAT OPERATOR ASSAULTS HAVE GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY ALMOST HALF AT SOME POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT PHYSICAL BARRIERS BETWEEN OPERATORS AND PASSENGERS AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ONE OF THE PRESENTATION SLIDES COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE ARE MAKING TO ENSURE THAT OUR OPERATORS ARE SAFE? >> YEAH. >> SO IF I MAY BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER ASHTON IS BRINGING UP SOME VERY IMPORTANT POINTS THAT I THINK THE VIEWERS NEED TO SEE. SO CAN I HAVE IT PUT THE SLIDE UP SHE'S REFERRING TO YEAH, THAT SLIDE NUMBER 16 16 CAN WE HAVE 16 AND AN I TELL YOU CAN FOLLOW THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS THEY ARTICULATE SOME OF THE POINTS. I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF WE HAVE THE SLIDE. OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> SO ALL OF OUR BUSSES SO WHAT YOU'RE THE RAIL CARS ALREADY HAVE A CAB RIGHT? THE OPERATOR SEPARATED SO SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSSES. ALL OF OUR BUSSES HAVE BARRIERS TODAY WE ARE LOOKING AT AND HAVE BEEN EXPLORING AS IS THE INDUSTRY WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CREATE ENHANCED BARRIERS OR MORE COMPLETE BARRIERS ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT IS AN INDUSTRY WIDE FOCUS BUT ALL OF OUR BUSSES TODAY HAVE BARRIERS AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE BARRIERS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE INDUSTRY TO SEE HOW THOSE THAT BARRIER TECHNOLOGY IS ENHANCED OVER OVER TIME. >> OKAY. I KNOW AT SOME POINT WE ARE LOOKING AT I FORGET THE TERM IS IT BULLET RESISTANT? >> YES. YES. BULLET RESISTANCE. SO BULLET RESISTANT GLASS OR BULLET RESISTANT BARRIERS? WE ARE AWARE OF ONE TRANSIT AGENCY THAT IS PILOTING IT ON ONE BUS. IT'S SEPTA AND WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT CLOSELY WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROS AND CONS ARE. >> RIGHT. CERTAINLY WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FIELD THE BIGGEST CONCERN WITH BULLET RESISTANT BARRIERS IS TWOFOLD. THEY'RE VERY HEAVY SO IT PUTS A LOT OF WEIGHT ON THE FRONT AXLE OF THE BUS. IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE THE BUS OPERATOR IS SITTING IS PUTTING A LOT OF WEIGHT ON THAT FRONT AXLE. IT ALSO COULD CREATE A HAZARD IN THE EVENT OF AN ACCIDENT IF THOSE BARRIERS BROKE FREE BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE LITERALLY SEVERAL HUNDRED POUNDS FOR THE DOOR AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS . IT IS A VERY, VERY HEAVY PIECE OF GLASS. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY HAS AROUND BULLET RESISTANT BARRIERS IS THE WEIGHT OF THAT OF THE GLASS. WELL I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE UPDATE ON THAT. THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON THE OPERATING SIDE I KNOW THAT WE HAD ADOPTED C APP FOR CITYWIDE RIGHT THAT INCLUDED CATS TO ENSURE THAT OUR BUSSES ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WERE DIESEL BASED WERE BEING RETIRED OR AS WE NOW AS WE ARE TRANSITIONING TO EMPTY WHAT HAPPENS TO SOME OF THOSE SUSTAINABILITY GOALS AS WE ARE BUYING AND PURCHASING THESE BUSSES THAT THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS OR MORE? >> YEP SO USEFUL LIFE IS ABOUT 12 YEARS BUT CERTAINLY WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE BEYOND 12 YEARS. OUR AVERAGE FLEET AGE RIGHT NOW WHEN I STARTED OUR AVERAGE FLEET AGE WAS OVER TEN YEARS. OUR AVERAGE FLEET AGE TODAY IS ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. THE FDA REQUIRES YOU TO KEEP THEM 12 SO THAT AVERAGE AGE REFLECTS THE NEW VEHICLES AND THE OLDER TO YOUR QUESTION WE HAVE ABOUT 35 FULL BATTERY ELECTRIC BUSSES. THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD VEHICLES BUT THEY THERE ARE CHALLENGES IN OUR OPERATING ENVIRONMENT UTILIZING THEM. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO ELECTRIC HYBRID BUSSES AND WE HAVE CONTINUE TO BUY THOSE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUY FULL BATTERY ELECTRICS AS TO MONITOR HOW THE TECHNOLOGY PROGRESSES. >> THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE SEE WITH THE BATTERY ELECTRICS TODAY ARE THAT THE THE AMOUNT OF TIME THE RUNTIME IS ABOUT 30% OF OUR ROUTES WOULD REQUIRE MULTIPLE BUSSES IF YOU WERE USING BATTERY ELECTRICS BECAUSE ONE CHARGE DOESN'T CAN'T SATISFY THE ENTIRE ROUTE. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE OVERNIGHT CHARGE TIME IS BETWEEN THREE AND SIX HOURS TO CHARGE A BUS THE ONES WE HAVE AND WE RUN ABOUT 20 HOURS A DAY SO YOU RUN INTO A PROBLEM OF YOU DON'T HAVE QUITE ENOUGH TIME TO RECHARGE OVERNIGHT BUT WE KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY WILL GET BETTER AND WE'RE WATCHING THAT AS IT PROGRESSES. EXACTLY. YES. AND ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 24. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT SOUTH AND STATION AND PARK AND RIDE IN HUNTSVILLE. >> WAS THIS PLANNED BEFORE THIS REFERENDUM WAS APPROVED OR IS THIS SOMETHING NEW? THESE ARE EXISTING PROJECTS, EXISTING PROJECTS, CORRECT. AND WHAT'S THEIR FUNDING SOURCE FOR BOTH OF THIS EXCUSE ME FEDERAL GRANTS AND TRANSIT DOLLARS SO LOCAL TRANSIT DOLLARS AND AND THEN DONATIONS IN THE CASE OF HAMBRICK GUY FROM NCDOT WELL THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND I APPRECIATE ALL I KNOW WE HAVE TREASURER AND TREASURER HERE MR. AND A CPA FARMER CPA. >> SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE OUR HE WILL BE KEEPING CLOSE TABS ON THE BUDGET AND THANK YOU REVEREND MACK FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE NOW INTERNET GAIN FROM DISTRICT SIX COUNCIL MEMBER OWENS THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I DO APPRECIATE IT AND A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY DRIVEN JUST BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST MY FIRST RODEO IF YOU WILL. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER CASHMERE IS FOCUSED ON ON RESILIENCE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS ON AND I JUST WANT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON THAT. SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AS A CITY I JUST WOULD LIKE TO APPRECIATE BETTER HOW THOSE TRANSLATE INTO THE GOALS AND HOW THEY TRANSLATED INTO THE BUDGET BEFORE ME. I DON'T SEE A LOT IN THIS BUDGET FOR EXAMPLE THAT GIVES ME CLARITY ON ASSUMPTIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE WITH RESPECT TO FUEL COST ASSUMPTIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE WITH RESPECT TO TARIFFS OR ANY OF THE THE DRIVERS KNOW NO PUN INTENDED OF OF LONG WAIT TIMES TO GET ADDITIONAL BUSSES AND TECHNOLOGY. COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME CLARITY ON THAT? >> YEAH, WE CERTAINLY SEE TARIFFS AS A DRIVER OF INCREASED CAPITAL COST 100% FOR SURE. IT IS ONE OF THE DRIVERS OF THE SOUTH END STATION AND I THINK THAT ITS ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS $20 MILLION AND IT CAME IN AT AROUND 37 MILLION. TARIFFS ARE A FACTOR IN THAT COST ESCALATION FOR CAPITAL IS CERTAINLY A FACTOR FUEL WE HEDGE AND WE WE DO FUEL HEDGING. I CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THE FUEL HEDGING CONTRACT BUT WE HAVE A FUEL HEDGING CONTRACT WITH JAMES RIVER AND MR. HOWE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH MORE INFORMATION ON THAT HEDGE PEOPLE OR OTHER FACTORS TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER FACTORS AND IT WASN'T PEOPLE IT WAS THE VEHICLES. WHEN WE ORDER VEHICLES IT TAKES US ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 18 AND 24 MONTHS TO RECEIVE VEHICLES AND WE ARE FACTORING THAT INTO OUR SCHEDULE FOR INCREASED BUS SERVICE BASED ON THE DELIVERY SCHEDULES THAT THE MANUFACTURER WILL GIVE US AS A AS WE. BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO ORDER BUSSES NOW WE ALREADY HAVE STARTED TALKING TO THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER IN THIS CASE IT'S GILLICK TO TALK ABOUT THEIR DELIVERY SCHEDULE TO START TO SLOT THAT SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN THOSE VEHICLES ARE COMING AND WE KNOW WHEN WE NEED TO START HIRING TO GET READY FOR THOSE VEHICLES TO ARRIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUST TAKE YOU BACK TO THE FIRST PART OF MY QUESTION THOUGH WITH RESPECT TO THE FOCUS ON RESILIENCE, CAN YOU HELP ME ARTICULATE SOMEWHERE IN THIS BUDGET WHERE WE ADDRESS THE TRANSFERENCE OF SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS INTO THE NEW BUDGET PROCESS AND WHERE THOSE ARE PICKED UP? IS IT IN THE TECHNOLOGY AREA? IS IT IN THE RESILIENCE AREA? I JUST I LOOK AT SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT I THINK WE MADE ABOUT THE PACE AT WHICH WE WERE GOING TO ELECTRIFY OUR FLEET AND THE PACE AT WHICH WE WERE GOING TO DRIVE SORT OF THAT 5050 MODE SHARE AND GET FOLKS ENGAGED A BIT DIFFERENTLY WITH THEIR COMMUTES. CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHERE IN THE BUDGET THOSE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED? >> SO WE HAVE SEEN SUSTAINABILITY IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF OUR CORE PRINCIPLES. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY DOES THIS CAP APPLY TO THE EMPTY NO IT DOES NOT. WILL THERE SUSTAINABILITY POLICY APPLY? YES. BUT THEY HAVE NOT CREATED THAT YET AND SO WE HAVE MADE NO ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SEE E&P APPLYING TO THE EMPTY AS AN EXAMPLE BUT WE HAVE NOT THEN ASSUMED THAT WE ARE NOT COMMITTED TO SUSTAINABILITY. WE HAVE ASSUMED WE WILL CONTINUE PURCHASING ELECTRIC HYBRID BUSSES BECAUSE OF OUR COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY BUT BUT NO CITY POLICIES WILL NOT APPLY TO THE EMPTY OKAY IS THERE IF I LOOK AT THE BETTER BUS SLIDE WHICH I THINK IS SLIDE NUMBER 27 AND WE TALK ABOUT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUS STOPS THE ASSUMPTIONS MADE HERE ARE THEY ALSO DRIVEN BY SOME ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS? ARE WE LOOKING FOR EXAMPLE AT SOLAR POWER ON SOME OF THESE ARE WE ABLE TO BE CREATIVE IN THE WAYS THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH ELECTRIC AT THESE BUS STOPS? >> YES. SO ALL OF OUR BUS STOPS WE ACTUALLY JUST PUT ONE IN FRONT OF SOUTHWEST SCHOOL FOR THE ARTS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE NEWEST BUS STOP DESIGNS. IT'S SOLAR POWERED WITH LIGHTING. IT HAS WIFI CAPABILITIES. >> I BELIEVE IT HAS WI-FI. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THAT IT ALSO HAS CHARGERS FOR YOUR PHONES AND DEVICES. >> SO YES AND IT IS SOLAR POWERED AND SO YES, WE ARE INCORPORATING ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO OUR DESIGN AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS WELL AS FOR OTHER FACILITIES. >> YES. AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION ON SLIDE NUMBER 29. I HAD AN INQUIRY FROM A RESIDENT AROUND THE COSTS OF THE SILVER LINE. IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THE 77 WIDENING, THERE'S A SENSE OUT THERE ARE SOME COMMUNICATION OUT THERE THAT THE COST OF THE SILVER LINE WILL GO UP. DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT IN THAT? I DIDN'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE QUESTION WHEN IT WAS ASKED OF ME SO I'M JUST IS SO NO I WOULD NOT MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE COST OF THE SILVER LINE WILL GO UP IF I-77 SOUTH TOLL LANE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. HOWEVER, IF I-77 IN SOUTH TOLL LANE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD WE WE HAVE BEEN FOR MONTHS HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITHIN CDOT TO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THE SILVER LINE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT INTERACTS WITH I-77 SOUTH TOLL LANE PROJECT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE OVER THE NEXT 30 TO 120 DAYS AS WORKING DIRECTLY AND POSSIBLY BRINGING FORWARD TO THIS COUNCIL AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITHIN CDOT PROTECTING DOING EXACTLY WHAT I JUST SAID PROTECTING THE SILVER LINE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE NECESSARY AS THAT PROJECT IF THAT PROJECT MOVES FORWARD BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE SILVER LINE INTERACTS IN A VERY IMPORTANT PLACE WITH I-77 SOUTH AS IT'S DESIGNED OR PROPOSED TODAY. >> THANK YOU MR. CARROLL. NO MORE QUESTIONS NOW INNER AND AGAIN FROM DISTRICT ONE COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON HEY, HEY. >> HERE WE GO. WE GOT THE BOBBLEHEAD AND LET'S GO HORNETS AND MR. CAGLE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WANTED TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING MS.. OWENS JUST SAID SO FOR THE BUS STOPS THAT WILL BE IMPROVED. IS THERE A UNIFORMITY TO THE BUS STOPS LIKE YOU MENTIONED YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON A DESIGN WILL ALL BUS STOPS EFFECTIVELY LOOK THE SAME? NOT ALL BUS STOPS WILL LOOK THE SAME BUT THE THE BASIC DESIGN CRITERIA BENCHES IS TRASH CANS, SHELTERS THEY WILL BE CONSISTENT BUT NOT NECESSARILY EVERY BUS STOP WILL LOOK THE SAME BECAUSE THE DIFFERENT RIGHT THEY MAY HAVE TO BE APPLIED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> OKAY. YEAH I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US TO TRY TO HAVE AS MUCH OF A CONSISTENT EXPERIENCE AS PASSENGERS CAN HAVE AT THE BUS STOPS. >> RIGHT. SO TO THAT END, WHETHER YOU HAVE ONE DESIGN OR THREE DESIGNS BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT THE EXPERIENCE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT IF THERE IS A BUS SHELTER IT WILL HAVE SOLAR LIGHTING AND CHARGERS AND THOSE THINGS AND SO THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT EVEN IF AS YOU APPLY IT IT HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BASED ON FIELD CONDITIONS ON SLIDE FIVE YOU'VE LISTED THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR 56.1 MILLION IN GRANTS. >> ARE WE WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? DO WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS ROCK SOLID OR IS THAT POTENTIALLY SOFT MONEY? >> WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S ROCK SOLID. THAT IS A FORMULA FUNDS PRIMARY PRIMARILY OR AWARDED GRANTS ALREADY AWARDED GRANTS. THIS IS NOT FUTURE GRANT COMPETITIVE GRANTS FOR THE SILVER LINE. >> THIS IS THE FORMULA FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BASED ON REVENUE MILES AND RIDERSHIP. >> OKAY. >> AND THEN ON SLIDE 20 TWO WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SOFTWARE EXPENDITURES AND FOR THE PTA, WHAT PORTION OF THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE DEDICATED TO SOFTWARE EXPENDITURES? HOLD ON. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THE EXACT ANSWER. >> IF YOU HAVE PREDOMINANTLY THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT IS SOFTWARE EXPENDITURES BUT IT'S ALSO NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE. OKAY. SO IT'S WORKDAY H.R. AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND THAT'S THE SOFTWARE. BUT THEN IT'S IT'S THE NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED THAT THAT AGAIN WE HAVE TO HAVE TO LOOK AT AND AS THEY ARE ROLLING THAT OUT RIGHT AS THEY ROLL OUT WORKED THEY WILL WILL THEY WILL IT BE STOOD UP IN TIME FOR THEM WHEN WE TRANSITION THE ASSETS OVER OR WILL WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE A SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR OUR BACKBONE? >> IT IS AN DISSIPATED THAT THERE WILL NEED TO BE A SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT BUT THE PTA JUST RECENTLY HIRED E.Y. AS THEIR TRANSITION CONSULTANT AND THEY ARE THEY HAVE A HUGE TEAM I THINK THERE'S NO LESS THAN TWO FORMER NORTH CAROLINA'S SECRETARIES OF DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ON THE TEAM. IT'S A REALLY AN IMPRESSIVE TEAM AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT AND THEY WILL BE APPROACHING THE CITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND IT MAY REQUIRE A TRANSITION SERVICES AGREEMENT BUT THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED. >> OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION ON SLIDE 28 WHEN YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH THE RED LINE COMMUTER RAIL, WE KNOW THAT 50% OF THE RED LINE MUST BE COMPLETE IN ORDER FOR OTHER PROJECTS TO BE JUMPSTARTED RIGHT? >> CORRECT. WHERE IS THE 50% COMPLETION PROJECTED HERE OR DO WE HAVE A PROJECTION OF WHEN IT WOULD BE 50% COMPLETE? >> WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECTED AT THIS TIME PRIMARILY BECAUSE AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL WE WILL BE LOOKING AT PROJECT DELAY DELIVERY METHODS THAT MAY ENABLE US TO SPEED UP CONSTRUCTION ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY METHODS LIKE P THREES OR DESIGN BUILD OR OTHER THINGS AND SO THAT THE CASH BURN IF YOU WILL, IS DEPENDENT ON THE PROJECT DELIVERY METHOD AND THAT WILL COME AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT 30 PERCENT DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENT ALL AS WE START TO LOOK AT PROJECT DELIVERY. >> UNDERSTOOD. AND I JUST THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I CAN APPRECIATE THE MOVEMENT THAT YOU HAVE ON THE BUS SIDE SO THAT PASSENGERS AND RESIDENTS WILL FEEL THE DIFFERENCE VERY QUICKLY RIGHT WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW. >> BUT FOR THIS 50% COMPLETION, YOU KNOW AS EFFECTIVELY PIGEONHOLING THE OTHER PROJECTS THE OTHER RAIL PROJECTS. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN INCREASE INCREASE THE DELIVERY THROUGH YOU KNOW, THE DELIVERY MODEL, I WOULD I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE US TO THINK THE OTHER THING TO CLARIFY ON THIS IS THE PAYBACK SAYS THAT NO OTHER RAIL PROJECT CAN COMPLETE BEFORE OR THE RED LINE IS 50% COMPLETE JUST LOGISTICALLY THE RED LINE IS IS THE MOST READY IS THE FURTHEST IN DESIGN. IT'S YOU KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS AND SO IT IS NOT THE CASE THAT WE WILL SIT WAITING FOR THAT 50% MARK TO SAY OKAY, NOW WE CAN START OTHER THINGS. >> WE WILL BE THERE WILL BE CONCURRENT WORK ON OTHER LINES AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KIND OF COME TO THE SAME PLACE BUT YOU CAN'T COMPLETE ANOTHER RAIL PROJECT BEFORE THE RAIL LINE IS 50% COMPLETE BUT YOU CAN START THEM. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >> OKAY NOW IN AND AGAIN COUNCILMEMBER I'M BACK FROM VACATION MAYFAIR THANK YOU MAYOR PRO-TEM MR. CAGLE THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TIME PTA REPRESENTATIVES THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP AND FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS. >> I'M GOING TO BACKTRACK WHEN I'M A STAY HERE ON TAPE BECAUSE WHAT YOU NOTED IS THAT WE'RE THE FURTHEST IN DESIGN A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION ALL OF LAST YEAR WHEN THIS WAS BEING DISCUSSED. THERE ARE VERY CLEAR CONCERNS ON THAT BOTH WHEN WE LOOK AT GATEWAY TO THE WIDER AND THEN THE WIDER JUMPING OVER TO HARRIS THERE IS A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE HAS HAPPENED ALONG OUR CURRENT RAIL WHERE THE GROUND FLOOR RETAIL WITH US SAYING THAT THIS IS THE FURTHEST ALONG IN DESIGN WHERE IN A SLIDE IS THE CONTINUATION OF COMMUNITY IMPACT BECAUSE THERE ARE THAT IS LARGE SWATHS OF LET'S BE HONEST MAJORITY MINORITY COMMUNITY MAJORITY WORKING CLASS COMMUNITY THAT IS BASICALLY GOING TO HAVE A TRAIN RUN RIGHT PAST THEM. WHERE DO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT ACTUALLY LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WHAT THEY SUPPORT IS SOMETHING AS ACTUALLY GOING TO BENEFIT THEM ? >> YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. IT HAS BEEN THE LPA FOR 20 YEARS. >> THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS LPA AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. ONE IS EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT WHEN THIS WAS DONE NORTH END WAS A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE THAN IT IS TODAY AND SO CLEARLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A STOP IN NORTH END AND AS WE DO DESIGN WE'VE PLANNED FOR THAT AND WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT AS WE CONTINUE DESIGN TO CHANGE. >> THE LPA IS A SEPARATE PROCESS AND IT COMES THROUGH DESIGN AND ULTIMATELY THE PTA WILL BE ASKED TO DO FINAL APPROVAL OF THE LPA OR LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. THE OTHER THE SECOND MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE LPA IS RIGHT NOW THE LPA REFLECTS A TERMINUS IN MOUNT MORNE WHICH IS IN IREDELL COUNTY. >> I'M THAT IS THE LPA. IT HAS BEEN THE LPA FOR 20 YEARS BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE RED LINE IN IREDELL COUNTY AT THIS TIME. >> THAT DECISION IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH IREDELL COUNTY AND MOORESVILLE NEEDS TO BE HAD BECAUSE THE RED LINE CANNOT GO BEYOND MECKLENBURG COUNTY LINE WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL. >> SO THOSE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE LOOK IN SETTING THE LPA AND THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS AS DESIGN MOVES SO THAT DOESN'T COMPLETELY ANSWER MY QUESTION AS FAR AS COMMUNITY IMPACT. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOCALLY PREFERRED PLAN THAT WAS IDENTIFIED 20 YEARS AGO, THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE HAS SEEN A MAJOR GROWTH TRANSITION JUST IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. >> SO I'M HOPING TO HEAR THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY VERSUS SAYING WHAT THIS IS WHAT WE IDENTIFIED 20 YEARS AGO AND SO THIS IS THE PLAN WE'RE MOVING WITH AND CLEARLY IDENTIFYING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PRIOR TO AND ON LAW ALONGSIDE MP TO BECAUSE AGAIN WHAT WE THOUGHT GROWTH WOULD LOOK LIKE IS CHARLOTTE IN 2020 VERSUS 2019 TO NOW 2026 IS A VERY DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. SO TRYING TO HOLD ON TO AN IDEA FROM 20 YEARS AGO AND NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON THE GROUND I THINK WE'RE MISSING OPPORTUNITIES SO WE DON'T YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THIS NOW BUT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE I WOULD EXPECT FOR US TO SEE A CLEAR GUIDELINE OF HOW COMMUNITY WILL BE ENGAGED AND NOT JUST RELY ON WELL WE IDENTIFIED AS 20 YEARS AGO I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING ABSOLUTELY. >> SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ABSOLUTELY THERE IS A PROCESS IT'S SETTING THE LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. THE PTA WILL NEED TO DO THAT AS DESIGN ADVANCES AND THE COMMUNITY WILL BE ENGAGED IN THAT. >> OKAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ON RECORD A LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE SHOULD BE THE ALTERNATIVE THAT COMMUNITY IS LEADING IN THAT CONVERSATION SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED. ALSO IF WE GO BACK ONE TO SLIDE 27, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH COMMUNITY ON HOW WILL THESE ROUSE NEIGHBORHOODS ACTUALLY BE PRIORITIZED. YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS WHERE ROUTES HAVE BEEN REALIGNED AND REASSIGNED. I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN INTEREST IN HOW WE DECIDE WHAT COMMUNITIES WE'VE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS AND OR RUN INTO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT UTILIZE OUR BUS TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> BUSSES WILL BE ON THE APP SAYING IT'S COMING. THE ROUTE WILL COMPLETELY DISAPPEAR. IT WILL BE 30 MINUTES LATE, IT WILL BE 45 MINUTES LATE. IT WILL JUST NOT SHOW UP AT ALL. SO ARE WE USING THE HIGH CONCERN DATA THAT'S COMING IN TO IDENTIFY THE PRIORITY ROUTES? WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS? WE CAN PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON THAT THE THE PRIMARY DRIVER THERE'S TWO DRIVERS IN THE EARLY PHASES THE PRIMARY DRIVER IS RIDERSHIP. THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTES SHOULD BE TAKEN TO THE FASTER TO THE 15 MINUTES AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. BUT THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS WITH ROUTE LENGTH AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES REQUIRED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THE ANTICIPATED ROUTE ROUTE UPGRADES SYSTEM. >> SO HERE IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER WE SENT YOU WHAT YOU NOTED IS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP. I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE HIGH RIDERSHIP ON MY ROUTE OF MY ROUTE IS 30 TO 45 MINUTES LATE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS SO THE ROUTE LOGIC WOULD TELL ME THAT IF ACCESSIBILITY IS THE PRIORITY, WHAT WE WILL BE TRACKING FIRST ARE THE ROUTES WHERE WE HAVE RECEIVED MULTIPLE CONCERNS AND OR COMPLAINTS AND OR QUESTIONS REGARDING WHY THE ROUTE CHANGED OR WHY THE BUS DIDN'T SHOW UP. THAT SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY VERSUS WHERE HIGH RIDERSHIP IS. >> HIGH RIDERSHIP IS IS OUT THERE AND THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE THEY'RE NOT CHALLENGED BY THEIR BUS NOT ARRIVING ALL THE TIME OR WITH THAT OR ARRIVING WITHIN A FIVE MAYBE SIX MINUTE WINDOW. BUT WE HAVE OTHER AREAS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHERE WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL MISSES THAT BUS THAT IS PUTTING THEM POTENTIALLY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO GO TO WORK. THEY ARE HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS LATE. TO ME THAT'S A GREATER PRIORITY BECAUSE WE'RE TRACKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION THROUGH OUR CAS APP THROUGH ALL THE EMAILS THAT COME TO COUNCIL TO SAY A MANAGER THIS IS MORE SO WHY THIS IS STILL UNDER OUR AUTHORITY BEFORE IT GOES OVER TO A WHOLE NOTHER ENTITY IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THE PRIORITY IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND WE WANT TO BUILD CONFIDENCE WITH OUR COMMUNITY, WHY WOULD WE DEFAULT THAT HIGHER RIDERSHIP SHOULD BE THE MAIN CRITERIA VERSUS IDENTIFYING WHERE WE HAVE THE PAIN POINTS AND BUILDING FROM THERE AT MOST OF THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTES ARE OUR BUT CENTRAL AVENUE IS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTE ALWAYS HAS BEEN PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE BEATTY'S FORD IS THE SECOND HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTE PROBABLY AGAIN ALWAYS HAS BEEN, ALWAYS WILL BE TRYON NORTH AND SOUTH IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP ROUTES AGAIN THE SOUTH END ITSELF THERE ARE HIGH RIDERSHIP ROUTES THAT GO THROUGH I GUESS GENERALLY SPEAKING THE SOUTH END BUT MOST OF THE HIGH RIDERSHIP ROUTES ARE THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY AND AGAIN WHEN I STARTED WE SAW MISSED TRIPS OVER 10% AND A MISSED TRIP IS THE BUS DIDN'T COME. >> WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO COME AND IT NEVER SHOWED UP. THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HIGH MISSED TRIP RATE. I IN FACT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HIGH THAT'S OFF THE CHARTS. WE HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. OUR MISSED TRIP RATE HOVERS AROUND 1% OR LESS AT THIS POINT ONCE WE GOT MISS TRIPS UNDER CONTROL WE SET ON TIME PERFORMING. IS IT ON TIME? IF WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE THERE, IS IT THERE WHEN WE SAY AND THE STANDARD IS AT LEAST 80 5% OTP ON TIME PERFORMANCE AGAIN WE WERE IN THE 78 TO 80% RANGE. WE ARE CONSISTENTLY AT 85% OR BETTER AS WE'VE MADE THESE CHANGES SO I UNDERSTAND HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS FOR ALL OF OUR RIDERS WHEN THE BUS DOESN'T COME OR WHEN IT COMES LATE. >> WE ARE ACTIVELY MAKING THOSE CHANGES AS PART OF THIS BUDGET AND WE'RE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO INSTEAD OF A BUS ON BEATTY'S FOR COMING EVERY 25 MINUTES IS COMING EVERY 15 MINUTES JUST JUST LIKE THE SERVICE STANDARD OR THE OTHER MAJOR ROUTES AND SO I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW IT'S ONLY RIDERSHIP. >> WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH ROUTES SOME ROUTES ARE VERY DIFFICULT FROM AN ON TIME PERFORMANCE STANDPOINT. SOUTH TRYON IS ONE OF THEM AND IT'S BECAUSE OF TWO THINGS ONE IT'S A VERY LONG ROUTE. >> IT STARTS UPTOWN AND GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO ALMOST TO THE LAKE NOT LAKE NORMAN BUT OUT TO THE OTHER LAKE ANYWAY AND AND AND IT GOES THROUGH THE SOUTH END WHERE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CONSTRUCTION IN AND SO IT'S AN IMPACTED THAT'S A HARD ROUTE FOR OTP BUT WE LOOK AT HOW WE MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROUTE SPECIFIC TO THE ROUTE THANK YOU FOR THE TRANSPARENCY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHEN WE'RE PRESENTING THIS WHEN THIS INFORMATION IS BEING PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BUT ALSO WHEN IT IS PRESENTED TO A COMMUNITY IS A CLEAR LINE OF HOW THE ROUTES ARE BEING IDENTIFIED. >> I APPRECIATE WE LOOK AT HIGH TRAVEL, HIGH RIDERSHIP BUT WHAT I'M ALSO SAYING IS WE NEED TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY NOT JUST PERCENTAGES BECAUSE UNLESS WE GOING TO THE ACTUAL 3D MODELS OF ANY GRAPHS WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE REAL NUMBERS AND A PERCENTAGE DOESN'T REALLY NUMBERS NEVER LIE BUT THEY CAN BE THEY CAN BE USED TO MISLEAD. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE PAIN POINTS YOU ALREADY CAPTURING INFORMATION THROUGH THE APP. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS WHERE WE ARE HAVING CLEAR MIS ALIGNMENT WITH ROUTES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING THE COMMUNITY IS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE AND LETTING THE COMMUNITY KNOW HOW THEY CAN BEST GET THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED AND SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE AND SHARE THE WINS BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS ALSO REACH OUT TO US TO SAY THANK YOU WHEN THINGS GO RIGHT AND WE TRY TO GET THAT OVER TO THE TEAM. >> BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF INVESTMENT, IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY REACH OUT TO US A BETTER TURN ON AROUND TIME. >> ON GETTING RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW FORTUNATELY JUST 8 OR 3 A.M. ON FRIDAY MORNING WE HAD NASAL SO WE LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH SECURITY IN THE EARLIER SLIDES AND OTHER THINGS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A INDIVIDUAL WHO WE WITNESS AND VIDEO SHOWS A MALE FOLLOWING A FEMALE ON TO THE BUS THERE BEING AN ASSAULT THEM BOTH LEAVING THE BUS AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT STOPS THAT IN BETWEEN AND WE HAVE A POLICE SUPPORT THAT'S OUT THERE DOING WHATEVER PROCESS THAT THEY NEED TO DO. THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE HAS INVESTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN SUPPORT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OUTREACH AND SUPPORT. IF WE SEE AN INCIDENT HAPPENING THAT'S NOT A DIRECT ASSAULT ONTO ONE OF OUR DRIVERS, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL TO ENSURE THAT ONE THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE SEPARATED BUT TWO THAT THERE IS PROTECTION BECAUSE THE JUST SAY WHERE THE CAMERA SHOWS BOTH THE MALE AND FEMALE LEAVING THE BUS BUT THERE'S NO FOLLOW UP OF THAT BUT YET THE FEMALE WAS KICKED AND BEATEN AND THIS IS THE ASSAULT OF A FEMALE NEAR THE CENTER STREET WHICH IS ON ALL OVER THE NEWS TODAY AND DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO OUR BUS OPERATOR IMMEDIATELY CALLED US CALLED THE POLICE. THEY WERE RESPONDING TO THAT AND THAT'S THE EXACT PROTOCOL THAT THEY NEEDED TO FOLLOW. THAT OPERATOR DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. >> CLARIFICATION WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF I MAY HAVE MISSED THE LADY GOT INTO AN ALTERCATION AND HE'S ABOUT SIX FIVE AND I'M ABOUT FIVE TWO. I'M JUST SAYING THAT IS JUST OUR POLICY OUR POLICY AND THIS IS JUST A QUESTION OF A CLARIFICATION IS THAT VERSUS STOPPING THE BUS AND DOING ONE OF THOSE EVERYBODY GET OFF OR THE BUS NEVER MOVED ONLY THAT'S I'M ASKED MY QUESTION AND AND YOU CAN RESPOND TO IT SO FOR CLARIFICATION OUR BUS DRIVERS RESPONSE AND TRAINING IS TO CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT TO INTERVENE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO INTERVENE AND THAT'S IT. WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO CALL AND HOPEFULLY STOP AT ONE OF THE ROUTES WHERE WE KNOW THE OFFICER SAYS OKAY, WELL I'LL BE AT YOUR NEXT STOP AND THAT'S THE STOP. WE STOP IT. DO WE HAVE WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROTOCOL ON THE BUS NEVER MOVED. >> TWO PEOPLE BOARDED THE BUS. THEY WERE IN A VERBAL ALTERCATION. THE OPERATOR CALLED THE POLICE AND THAT BUS NEVER MOVED. >> SO THEN THE POLICE ARRIVED AND THOSE TWO PEOPLE HAD LEFT THE ALTERCATION. BUT WE DO NOT GET INVOLVED WHERE THE PHYSICAL ALTERCATION BECAUSE MULTIPLE REASONS WE CALL POLICE AND HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ARRIVE THEN THAT BECOMES LAW ENFORCEMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY. AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. >> YES. THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OR SECURITY WHICHEVER RESPONDS FIRST. BUT THAT THE OPERATOR STOPPED WAS STOPPED A FEMALE BOARDED THE BUS. A MALE CAME RIGHT BEHIND HER. THEY WERE IN A VERBAL ALTERCATION. THE THE OPERATOR NEVER MOVED THE BUS. THEY DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY HELD AND CALLED POLICE AND SAID THE POLICE IS ON THE WAY AND AND AND THOSE THE TWO PEOPLE THEN EXITED THE BUS AS I UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE THE POLICE CAME. >> BUT THAT BUS WAS NOT THEY WERE NOT TRAVELING THEY WERE NOT PASSENGERS ON THE BUS. THEY BOARDED IT BUT IT NEVER MOVED AND THE OPERATOR CALLED FOR ASSISTANCE CALLED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM SECURITY C MPD THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THAT SINCE THAT I'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE REACH OUT ASKING ME ABOUT IT AND SINCE YOU WERE HERE IT WAS AN ABILITY TO SAY WHAT OUR PROCESS IS. NO, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH IT BUT I DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO BE GONE IN ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS ANYWAY. >> LAST PLEASE. WHY? FOR ACCESS WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS, ARE WE CONSIDERING ADD PARKING VIA STATIONS SINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE GOING TO WORK OR SCHOOL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER TO HAVE WI-FI ACCESS WHILE WE'RE WAITING? >> YES. SO OUR VEHICLES ARE WI-FI ENABLED AND YES, AS WE DO NEW FACILITIES OR FACILITIES UPGRADES WE LOOK TO ENABLE WITH WI-FI INCLUDING BUS SHELTERS AS WELL. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT COULD JUST BE ADDED AS ONE OF THE BULLETS IN THE PRESENTATION WAS TO JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE WAITING. >> THANK YOU. MS. SIMMONS AND MAY I PUT YOU IN THE GAME FROM DISTRICT TWO? >> COUNCILMAN GRAHAM THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM I'LL BE VERY QUICK IF I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. >> I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PTA WHO ARE HERE FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP AS WELL. I'M A POLITICAL SO I DO WANT SOME OF YOUR MEETING SO I GET A GOOD FEELING OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR LEANING IN ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FOR US. >> I WANT TO UNDERSCORE SAFETY OBVIOUSLY THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD UNFORTUNATELY BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE AND THEY HAPPEN ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND SO HOPEFULLY WE BEGIN TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE INVESTMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING ON PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE BUS, ON THE TRAIN, AT THE STATIONS AND AT THE SHELTERS. SO I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSCORE AND GET JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION I THINK A HUNDRED BUS SHELTERS IS SHOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE FLOOR, RIGHT? >> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO MORE THAN A HUNDRED. RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU AND YOU'VE BASICALLY SAID IT YOURSELF THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO A HUNDRED PLUS OR MORE. I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THE ARE MORE AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT ALL BUS SHELTERS WILL HAVE SAME STAND ERT RIGHT LIKE A BASIC CAR AND OTHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE FEATURES BASED ON LOCATION HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT SO DEPENDING ON THE UTILIZATION OF THE STOP SOME SOME STOPS HAVE A 100 BOARDINGS A DAY, SOME HAVE TEN OR TWO BOARDINGS A DAY DEPENDING ON UTILIZATION AS WELL AS INVESTMENT AS WELL AS EQUITY IN THE AREA THAT DRIVES THE THE DECISION ON THE LEVEL OF AMENITIES ALL THOSE AMENITIES ARE CONSISTENT BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AMENITIES ON EVERY STOP SOME MAY HAVE BENCHES, SOME MAY HAVE BENCHES IN SHELTERS, SOME MAY HAVE YOU KNOW OTHER THINGS. >> BUT BUT AGAIN ALL THOSE AMENITIES ARE CONSISTENT. IT'S NOT WE DON'T GO OUT AND BUY A DIFFERENT KIND OF SHELTER FOR EACH ONE BUT THERE IS A POLICY DICTATE RATING THE LEVEL OF AMENITIES THAT GO ON EACH STOP WELL JUST MALCOLM I THINK THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE BENCHES AND SHELTERS I'M JUST SAYING RIGHT. IT RAINS ON TO PEOPLE THE SAME WAY IT RAINS ON THE HUNDRED RIGHT AND SO HOPEFULLY MINISTER MACK YOU WOULD HEAR THAT AND THAT NO MATTER IS SEEN RIDERSHIP OF TWO OR RIDERSHIP OR A HUNDRED RIDERSHIP THAT STARTS ON BASE FOR ROAD ENDS OF VALENTINE THE STANDARD SHOULD BE THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM. JUST MY THOUGHT AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN I'M PIVOTING TO MICRO TRANSPORTATION HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN ALSO DEMONSTRATE QUICK RESULTS RIGHT? I THINK THE PUBLIC REALLY WANT TO SEE THEIR DOLLARS AT WORK QUICKLY AND THE QUICKEST WAY TO DO THIS TO THE THE BETTER BUS PROGRAM OR THE MICRO TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND GETTING SHELTERS UP AND RUNNING AND PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM THE RAIN AND THE SIGN AND HAVING SOME PLACE TO SIT WHILE THEY'RE WITH YOU ON THE BUS AS WELL. ACCESS TO SIDEWALKS I MEAN THOSE ARE BASIC FUNCTIONS THAT FOLKS FOR THAT YES FOR I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S JUST THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPROMISING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, YOU DIDN'T TOUCH TOO MUCH ON HANDICAP ACCESS BUT HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE THE BLIND IN THE LIMITED SIGHT PASSENGERS AND THOSE WHO NEED HANDICAPPED ACCESS ON THE ON THE BUSSES ON THE TRAINS THAT THERE'S AN INVESTMENT AREA IN THE BUDGET THAT TALKS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NEED ASSISTANCE GET THE TYPE OF SUPPORT THEY NEED AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. YES. >> YES SIR. NOW ENTER THE GAME FROM DISTRICT SEVEN MR. ED DRIGGS, A POINT GUARD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM I THINK IT'S WORTH PAUSING FOR A MOMENT HERE TO RECOGNIZE WE'RE ACTUALLY AT A MOMENT IN HISTORY FOR OUR CITY AND THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT IS TAKING PLACE AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MATTERS SOME OF WHICH WE WILL NOT CONTROL. SO IN MY MIND AS THE CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF MOVING OUT GOING FORWARD YOU CAN TAKE TRANSIT OUT OF CITY GOVERNMENT BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE TRANSIT OUT OF THE CITY AND OUT OF THE COUNTY. SO IN FACT THE CRITICAL THING FOR MOST OF THESE ISSUES IS THE ONGOING BASIS OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO AND I BELIEVE MS. MACK LEFT OR IS STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM BUT I WANT TO STRESS THE FACT THAT OUR ROLE IN ALL OF THIS WILL BE ONE OF ADVOCACY FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE WERE ELECTED BY THEM. SO WE'RE APPOINTING BOARD MEMBERS BUT WE'RE THE INTERFACE WITH THE PUBLIC. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK TO US AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY OKAY, WHO DO YOU APPOINT? ARE THEY DOING THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW WE WANT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE IMMEDIATE CONTROL OVER MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON IS THAT QUESTION OF THE PARTNERSHIP AND HOW IT MOVES FORWARD. IT'S IT TOOK US FIVE YEARS TO GET HERE. I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. I REMEMBER THE MOBILITY TASK FORCE AND IT ALL SEEMED A LITTLE REMOTE AND THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THE SUGGESTION OF A HALF CENT SALES TAX I SAID DON'T BE RIDICULOUS. THE LEGISLATURE WILL NEVER LET US DO THAT AND YET THEY DID AND THE PEOPLE APPROVED IT IN MY MIND ONE THING THAT'S CRITICAL THAT I HAVE SAID PUBLICLY A NUMBER OF TIMES IS THE REFERENDUM PASSED BY A VOTE OF 52 TO 48 AND WHAT IS ON MY MIND IS WE HAVE TO MAKE CLEAR TO THE 48% THAT IN THE END THIS WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING TO DO. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE TO ALLAY THE CONCERNS. THERE WAS AN ELEMENT OF DISTRUST AND WE WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT AND I 77 AS WELL. IT'S HARD TO HAVE A SERIOUS POLICY CONVERSATION AMONG PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T TRUST EACH OTHER. SO IN MY MIND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM PTA IS CRITICAL. WE WILL APPOINT THOSE 12 MEMBERS. YES, BUT ASIDE FROM THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR THE TRANSITION OF THE ASSETS TO THE EMPTY OF THE EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TERMS ARE FAIR TO CHARLOTTE AND THAT WE TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES. >> THE SAFETY ISSUE IS ONE THAT I'M CONFIDENT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE MTA PTA I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE WAY THAT BOARD APPOINTMENT PROCESS WORKED WE HAVE QUITE A DIVERSITY UP THERE. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ISSUE THAT IS NOT BEING REPRESENTED BY SOMEBODY IN THAT GROUP AND IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR MIX OF INTERESTS HERE. >> SO I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE OUTLOOK FOR THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT AS WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THE CATS CAN ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS FOR EXAMPLE THAT MIGHT BE BINDING ON THE PTA GOING FORWARD BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WERE APPOINTED TO DO AND TO RUN THIS THING AND OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WAY THEY RUN IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE THINGS THAT WE ASPIRE TO FOR OUR CITY. >> I DID HAVE FOR EXAMPLE ONE QUESTION AND THAT IS YOU SAID THERE WILL BE 100 SHELTERS OR MORE AND THESE BUS ROUTES YOU'VE MADE SOME REFERENCE TO HOW THEY ARE PRIORITIZED. >> BUT IS THIS JUST A DATA EXERCISE? NO, I MEAN I GUESS WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT MAYBE RELATED TO MISS MAYFIELD'S QUESTION BECAUSE THE QUESTION HAS BEEN PUT TO ME YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF THESE SHELTERS ARE WE GOING TO GET? WILL THEY ALL HAVE A ROOF OVER THEM? THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE SHELTERS BECAUSE THOSE ARE A NEAR TERM PROSPECT AND THEY HAVE IMPLICATIONS SOCIALLY AS WELL AS FROM A NUMERICAL STANDPOINT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER WE HAVE A SEQUENCE FOR OVER 2000 OF THESE IN FIVE YEARS WHO GOES FIRST, WHO GOES LAST? HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. THE MTC PAST AND UPDATED POLICY ABOUT SERVE WELL HOW ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO JUST PRE BRANT JUST BEFORE I GOT THERE MAYBE FOUR AND A HALF OR FIVE YEARS AGO AND THAT SETS OUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF HOW YOU SCORE AND RANK BELLS, BUS SHELTERS, BUS AMENITIES AND ALL OF THE BUS STOPS ARE SCORED AND RANKED PER THAT POLICY AND IT'S ALL OUT THERE SO AND ACTUALLY HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE AND SO THAT LISTS ALL OF THOSE THINGS NOW THE ONLY THING THAT HAS TO BE UPDATED IS WITH MICRO TRANSIT. THERE WILL BE SOME BUS STOPS THAT ARE REMOVED BECAUSE IN A MICRO TRANSIT ZONE WHERE YOU ARE IS THE BUS STOP. YOU DON'T WALK TO A BUS STOP. >> THE MICRO TRANSIT VEHICLE COMES TO YOU. >> SO WE HAVE TO FIX THAT BUT OTHERWISE THAT IS THE MTC POLICY. >> NOW I SAY ALL OF THAT TO SAY WE HAVE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT AND PRESENTED THAT TO THE PTA NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THAT POLICY AS WRITTEN BY THE AND APPROVED BY THE MTC BUT AS A STARTING PLACE FOR WHAT THEY CAN CONSIDER AS THEY CREATE A POLICY THAT DICTATES LEVEL OF AMENITIES AND PRIORITIES ATION OF THOSE AMENITIES. >> THANK YOU. I WILL NOTE THAT A GREAT MAJORITY OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE NEW AND PTA WILL BE THE CATS PEOPLE SO WE WILL BE EXPORTING EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE BUILT INTO CATS WHEN WE WHEN WE CAUSE THAT TRANSFER TO HAPPEN. >> AND FINALLY I THINK I WILL JUST NOTE WE ARE EXTRAORDINARILY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOMEBODY OF YOUR ABILITY AND INSIGHT WORKING FOR US AT THIS VERY COMPLICATED TIME. >> I THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WHO NEEDS TO CHECK IN TO THE GAME IS FROM FROM D5 COUNCIL MEMBER JD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU BRANT FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU TO THE PTA MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE. I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IN YOUR EXERCISE OF PROJECTING THESE NUMBERS DID WAS THERE A TIME AND PLACE THAT YOU ALL INCLUDED THE REVENUES AND AS WELL THE ESTIMATED LOSS FROM BEARS PARTICULARLY THE ONES ON LIGHT RAIL? SO WE WE HAVE CALCULATED AS AN ANALYSIS IT'S NOT IN ONE OF THESE SLIDES I STARTED LOOKING FOR LIKE IT WAS THERE IS NOT IN ONE OF THESE SLIDES BUT LET ME TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. >> WE HAVE ALREADY CALCULATED WHAT WE BELIEVE THROUGH ANALYTICAL NOT ACCOUNT BUT ANALYSIS WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE RATE OF FARE EVASION IN THIS SYSTEM AND ALL MODES COMBINED WE PUT THAT AT ROUGHLY 50% ALL MODES BUS AND RAIL 50 50 50A LITTLE BIT LOWER ON BUS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER ON RAIL BUT AVERAGED AT 50 WE ALSO CALCULATED IN RESPONSE TO EITHER THE FTA OR THE OFFICE OF STATE AUDITOR PROJECTED LOST REVENUE IS I CAN GET YOU THAT NUMBER BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 3 TO $5 MILLION ANNUALLY IN LOST REVENUES. >> YEAH. COLLEAGUES THE REASON I ASK THIS QUESTION IT'S MORE SO NOT ONLY ABOUT EFFICIENCY BUT SAFETY, RIGHT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PASSENGERS ON OUR BUS TO PREVENT THINGS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED THIS PAST FRIDAY MORNING FROM HAPPENING AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGING OUR TRUSTEES THAT ARE IN THE ROOM HERE TO RELAY THE MESSAGE TO THE OTHER FOLKS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE INCORPORATING $5 MILLION AND FARE ENFORCEMENT BUT ALSO FINDING A VERY SOUND WAY TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT USING 50% OF REVENUE THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMING FROM FARES, RIGHT? I MEAN THAT'S A LOST OPPORTUNITY, A HUGE LOSS OPPORTUNITY AND LET'S REMEMBER THAT IT IS THOSE REVENUES THAT ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OPERATING COSTS AND BUDGETING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING GREAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SERVICE. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS WHILE I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY PROJECT, COULD YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE UPTOWN TRANSIT CENTER? >> THIS IS A CENTER THAT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF MODERNIZATION AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE ARE ONE OF THE RAREST BUSSES STAMPS IN THE COUNTRY WHEN ALL THE BUSSES MEET IN THAT PLACE, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU ARE IF YOU LIVE IN EAST CHARLOTTE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND YOU ARE WANTING TO GET TO WEST CHARLOTTE OR ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CENTER TO THE TRANSIT CENTER YOU'RE IN UPTOWN CAN YOU TALK ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL UPGRADES TO THAT CENTER? >> YES. SO WE HAVE DONE A CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY AND THE SHORT STORY IS THE CITY NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED AND REHABILITATED FOR SURE. >> IT IS A 30 YEAR OLD FACILITY AND IT NEEDS SOME WORK. SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH HOW TO BRING IT UP TO THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR CONDITION LEVEL THAT IS REQUIRED BY THE FTA THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET BUT WE ARE ALSO LOOKING LONG TERM WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE FOR COMPLETE REDEVELOPMENT OF A TRANSIT CENTER. TO YOUR SECOND POINT DO OTHER TRANSIT CENTERS HAVE A CENTRAL DO OTHER TRANSIT SYSTEMS HAVE A CENTRAL TRANSIT CENTER? YES MOST DO. IN CHARLOTTE WE ESPECIALLY NEED A CENTRAL TRANSIT CENTER BECAUSE OF THE ROAD NETWORK AND BECAUSE UPTOWN CHARLOTTE IS A SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT CENTER NOW INCLUDED IN BETTER BUS IS IS ALSO MORE POINT TO POINT CONNECTIVITY SO THAT INSTEAD OF ALL BUSSES NEEDING TO COME UPTOWN AND THEN ACROSS THERE ARE ALSO BUSSES THAT CAN BRING PEOPLE AROUND THE EDGES AND SKIP UPTOWN AND THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HUB AND SPOKE AND POINT TO POINT BUT INCORPORATING THAT BUT WE CERTAINLY NEED A CENTRAL TRANSIT CENTER IN CHARLOTTE RIGHT? >> YEAH I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE NOT ALL FOLKS WORK IN UPTOWN. RIGHT AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY AND ALL PARTS OF CHARLOTTE I JOIN MY COLLEAGUES AND THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT ABOUT THE EQUITY WHEN IT COMES TO SHELTERS AND THE BUS STOPS ACROSS THE CITY. >> IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT, RIGHT BECAUSE ALTHOUGH PERHAPS ONE STOP MIGHT JUST HAVE 2 TO 5 PEOPLE WAITING THERE A DAY, WE ARE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY LIKE WE AGAIN 157 PEOPLE MOVING TO THE REGION. DOES NOT INCLUDE SPECIFICALLY THE CITY NUMBER BUT THAT MEANS THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE SEEING EXPONENTIAL GROWTH AND SOUTH END AND IN CHARLOTTE AND ALL PARTS OF OF OUR CITY AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS EQUITABLE FROM A STOP IN SOUTH END TO A STOP ON CENTRAL AVENUE OR AND BAILEY'S FORD ROAD ETC. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MAYFIELD SPOKE ON THIS YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR EXAMPLE THE LP LP THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO FOR THE RED LINE. >> WE NEED UPDATED SCORES FOR YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITIZATION OF MODERNIZING OUR BUS STOPS BECAUSE THAT WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO AND AGAIN WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AN UPDATED CRITERIA ON THAT AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS JUST SPEAKING TO WHAT MR. DREX WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH AND PTA AS WE YOU KNOW SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE RED LINE AND HOW WE HAVE TO ADJUST AND UPDATED WHATNOT I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR TO FOLKS THAT THE TRANSIT PLAN THAT THE CITY WORKED ON IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF MP TO RIGHT AND SO THERE ARE THAT PLAN MIGHT CHANGE. YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE WHEN I WAS AGAINST THE TRANSIT SALES TAX NO SECRET I MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PLAN MIGHT CHANGE. >> AND SO I THINK AS MR. DRAKE SAYS IT IS ON US TO RESPOND TO OUR CONSTITUENT AND ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF WHEN IT COMES TO ENSURING THAT COMMUNITY INPUT IS INCORPORATED TO A REVISED LPA FOR THE RED LINE AS WELL AS WHERE DO WE REDIRECT FUNDS IF ADDITIONAL COSTS WILL BE INCURRED ON A ADDING A BUS STOP? I MEAN A RAIL STOP TO THE RED LINE OR EXTENDING THE SILVER LINE OR HALTING THE THE GOLD STREETCAR. SO ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND I THINK IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENSURE AND REMIND OURSELVES THAT THIS IS A COLLABORATION PARTICULARLY WITH OUR 12 APPOINTMENTS AND HAVING GOOD FAITH RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NPT. >> THAT'S IT. MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT QUESTIONS AND WE THANK YOU FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION. LET ME REMIND CITIZENS THOUGH THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL BE BEFORE US FOUR MORE TIMES PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON MAY 11TH. ON MAY 18TH OUR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS JUNE 1ST STRAW VOTES AND THEN JUNE 18TH BUDGET ADOPTION. SO WE ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS WHO LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS IMPORTANT ITEM ON MAY 11TH A PUBLIC HEARING. WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T WANT TO DO TWO MORE THINGS ONE I WOULD LIKE TO DO A TIME CHECK AND THEN TWO, WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING STUDENTS THAT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE AS AN AUDIENCE THIS EVENING. THEY ARE POLITICAL SCIENCE STUDENTS FROM THE QUEEN UNIVERSITY OF CHARLOTTE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE MEETING. >> WILL YOU PLEASE STAND UP AND BE RECOGNIZED AT THIS TIME WILL BE ALUM OF QUEENS LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? ABSOLUTELY. THESE WONDERFUL STUDENTS ARE ALSO TAUGHT BY THE INCREDIBLE PROFESSOR DR. MARGARET COMMENTS IF YOU CAN STAND UP PLEASE WAS A FORMER PROFESSOR OF MINE AND IS THE REASON WHY I LOVE POLITICS AND POLICY AND ALSO WE NEED TO TALK TO YOU AND ALSO IS AN ENGAGED CITIZEN WITH THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE BY BEING THE CHAIR OF THE MAYOR'S INTERNATIONAL CABINET AS WELL. SO AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT NOT ONLY AM I AN ALUM OF THE QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY OF CHARLOTTE BUT SO IS OUR MAYOR BILL LYLES. >> SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THEY TOOK A TOUR OF THE GOVERNMENT CENTER EARLIER AND THANKS FOR BEING ENGAGED. >> ALL RIGHT TEAM, WE NEED A TIME CHECK. WE HAVE FOUR MORE ITEMS AND WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION. MY GOAL WAS WE CAN COMPLETE ALL THOSE BY 7 P.M. AND SO AND WE HAVE OKAY, THUMBS UP. OKAY, SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. OKAY AT YORK KIMBERLY DANTE HERE YOUR QUESTION WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH FOUR ITEMS PLUS A CLOSED SESSION HERE AND TO 67 BY 7 P.M.. YOU OKAY JOY DOT DEPOT OKAY I TURN IT OVER TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CHAIR DANTE ANDERSON WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK TO STREET VENDING REGULATIONS AND PASSAGE OF VEHICLE FOR HER ORDINANCE REVISION. >> SO DO YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PRO TEM FIRST AND FOREMOST I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE MY COMMITTEE AND THANK THEM FOR THE EFFORT THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WE'VE HAD TOUCHPOINTS WITH THE COMMUNITY BOTH WITH STREET VENDORS AND WITH RESIDENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER AJMERA, GRAHAM MITCHELL AND DRIGGS THAT THEY COMPRISE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO CHARLIE. BUT JUST TO FRAME IT A BIT, THIS ITEM WAS REFERRED BY THE MAYOR LAST YEAR ACTUALLY IN APRIL. SO IT'S BEEN IN COMMITTEE FOR QUITE SOME TIME AS YOU'LL SEE AS CHARLIE WALKS THROUGH SOME SPECIFIC SLIDES. WE ARE THE ONLY MAJOR CITY OR MEDIUM SIZED CITY IN IN THE GREAT STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA THAT DOES NOT HAVE STREET CITYWIDE STREET VENDING REGULATIONS AND SO AS WE'RE GROWING IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO THIS EVENING SEVERAL TIMES AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW THE WE WE NEED TO AS A COUNCIL ADDRESS THIS THIS IDEA OF CITYWIDE STREET VENDING. BUT I'LL STOP TALKING NOW AND I'LL PASS IT OVER TO MR. JONES THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I CAN DO ONE THING WELL AND THAT'S FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE GOT A PACKED AGENDA SO I'M GOING TO GO QUICK IF I GO TOO QUICK PLEASE TELL ME TO SLOW DOWN A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR EXISTING STREET VENDING ORDINANCES. STREET VENDING IS GOVERNED BY CHAPTER SIX AND THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. WE MADE UPDATES TO THAT LAST YEAR INCLUDING THE PEDDLERS SECTION. WE INCREASE THE VIOLATIONS OF THOSE ORDINANCES IN CIVIL FINES UP TO $500. >> REAL QUICK LEVEL SET THE GEOGRAPHY CITYWIDE STREET VENDING IS LEGAL WITHOUT A PERMIT IN ALL AREAS OUTSIDE THE CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT, THE CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT STREET VENDING IS ILLEGAL EXCEPT FOR THE TRANS STREET MALL VENDORS PROGRAM. THE CBD WAS EXPANDED BY COUNCIL TO INCLUDE STREETS AND NOTE ALL LAST YEAR TRANS STREET MALL STREET VENDING IS LEGAL BUT DOES REQUIRE A PERMIT IN THAT PROGRAMS ADMINISTERED BY THE CHARLOTTE CENTER CITY PARTNERS GOT THE FOOTPRINT THERE BUT IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO SEE ON THE MAP SO YOU CAN SEE OUR CURRENT CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT INCLUDES MOST OF THE STREETS IN UPTOWN AND A SMALL AREA IN NO DOG. SO REAL QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE POLICY TIMELINE. >> COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON GAVE A PRETTY GOOD OVERVIEW OF THAT SO LAST YEAR IN APRIL POLICY REFERRAL BY MAYOR LYLES THE HOUSING SAFETY COMMITTEE APPROVED TWO POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS IN JUNE OF WILL TO EXPAND THE CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT AND TO CREATE A NODAL PILOT PROGRAM FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS. JUNE 23RD COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS SEPTEMBER 1ST PERMITTED VENDORS ACTUALLY BEGAN SELLING ITEMS IN NO AS PART OF THAT PILOT PROGRAM ON JANUARY 5TH OF THIS YEAR THE SAFETY COMMITTEE APPROVED SUNSETTING THE NO DOUBT VENDOR PILOT PROGRAM SO THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN AND THE PROGRAM WAS EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 15TH MARCH 5TH THE SAFETY COMMITTEE APPROVED TWO POLICY RECOMMENDED ATIONS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION BUT REAL QUICKLY IT'S EXPERIENCE EXTEND STREET VENDING REGULATIONS CITYWIDE AND THEN CREATE A CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT OPTION FOR MPD THAT CRIMINAL WOULD BE A CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR. SO COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WE'VE HAD TWO PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS ONE LAST YEAR TO REALLY GET A FEEL FOR THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY HAD ANOTHER PUBLIC INPUT SESSION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR TO GATHER FEEDBACK AROUND ADDITIONAL POLICY PROPOSALS AND TO GARNER FEEDBACK FROM THE PILOT PROGRAM AFTER ITS CONCLUSION. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS EMAILS AS ALL OF YOU HAVE CALLS AND STAFF INTERACTIONS WITH VENDORS, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES CAN SIT. CAN YOU JUST HEAR FROM FOLKS ABOUT UNLICENSED FOOD SALES INCONSISTENT RESULTS FROM THE INCREASED FINES WE HAVE CHALLENGING CHALLENGES WITH PERMITTING AND COMPLIANCE DURING THE NOTE OUR PILOT PROGRAM WE HAD PERMITTED VENDORS THAT SET UP IN THE WRONG PLACES. WE HAD UNPERMITTED VENDORS SETTING UP IN NO DAY SO WE HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS FROM ADJACENT COMMUNITIES DURING THE NOTE PILOT SO A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE VENDING IN NOTE LEFT THAT AREA AND WENT TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY TO SELL THEIR WARES. ONE NOTE THESE TWO PHOTOS THESE ARE FROM THIS YEAR SOMEONE WAS SELLING ANIMALS IN NEVADA AND THERE'S FOOD CART SET UP IN THE STREET DURING A STADIUM EVENT COOKING HOT DOGS AND OTHER THINGS IN THE STREET. SO WE CONTINUE TO SEE AND HEAR ABOUT THESE CHALLENGES IN THE COMMUNITY. >> SOME OF THE BENCHMARKING WORK WE DID BEYOND JUST WHAT NORTH CAROLINA HAS WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE CONSIDER PEER CITIES LARGE CITIES WITH DIVERSE POPULATIONS. ALL OF THOSE CITIES HAVE CITYWIDE VENDOR REGISTRY REGULATION SO NO OTHER CITY THAT WE FOUND HAS A UNPERMITTED TYPE SYSTEM THAT'S OUR SIZE THREE OF THE SIX CITIES HAVE A CRIMINAL PENALTY OPTION. GOT TO ASK FOR SERVICE. NASHVILLE AND SAN DIEGO WHILE THEY DON'T HAVE A CRIMINAL PENALTY OPTION, THEY DO ALLOW THEIR LOCAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND WITH THE ASSISTANCE FROM THE LOCAL POLICE FORCE TO REMOVE ITEMS FROM THE RIGHT AWAY. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS IF SOMEONE REFUSES TO MOVE, THE LOCAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CALLS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY PHYSICALLY REMOVE THE ITEMS COMMON ELEMENTS WE SAW THROUGHOUT THESE CITIES IS RESTRICTED LOCATIONS DUE TO INSUFFICIENT RIGHT AWAY WIDTHS. SO THINK OF THE NARROW SIDEWALKS AND NOTE ALL THOSE LOCATIONS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE STREET VENDORS IN MOST OF THESE CITIES PROGRAMS PROHIBITIONS ON PROXIMITY TO BUSINESSES. THAT'S ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WE'VE HEARD OF PEOPLE SETTING UP IN FRONT OF A STORE AND BLOCKING THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT OF THAT BUSINESS STORES RESTRICTION ON DISPLAYS AUTHORITY TO REMOVE AND IMPOUND VENDOR MATERIALS ALMOST ALL OF THE CITIES REQUIRE A VALID BUSINESS LICENSE FROM THE VENDOR AND SOME MUNICIPALITIES ACTUALLY REQUIRE INSURANCE AND THE CITY TO BE LISTED AS AN ADDITIONAL INSURED AND REQUIRE PHOTO ID FOR VENDORS. SO THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF WHAT'S REQUIRED FROM VENDORS IN OUR PEER CITIES WHICH BRINGS US TO THE TWO ITEMS CONSIDERATION AND LIKE OUR DISCUSSION SAFETY COMMITTEE VOTE WAS TO EXTEND STREET VENDING REGULATION BEYOND THE EXISTING CONDITION CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT CITYWIDE. >> SO SOME OF THE STAFF ANALYSIS BEHIND THIS CITYWIDE REGULATIONS CONSISTENT WITH THE RESULTS OF OUR BENCHMARKING REVIEW STREET VENDING REGULATION IS IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH PARTICULARLY AROUND THE UNLICENSED FOOD VENDORS. STREET VENDING REGULATION HELPS LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD WITH OUR BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES. ONE THING WE'VE HEARD CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THE PUBLIC INPUT SECTION SESSIONS IS THAT OUR BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES HAVE A LOT OF HURDLES TO JUMP THROUGH TO OPEN AND RUN THAT BUSINESS AND THEY WANT AT LEAST SOME LEVEL OF SKIN IN THE GAME FROM THE STREET VENDORS. >> OF COURSE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN EXCEPTIONS FOR CITY AUTHORIZED PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE TRANS STREET MALL PROGRAM. WE THINK THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS THAT MANAGE OUR MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICTS ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO RUN AND MAINTAIN THOSE STREET VENDING PROGRAMS AND THEN WE WANT TO CONTINUE ALSO TO ALLOW VENDING DURING FESTIVALS AND OTHER EVENTS AS CURRENTLY CODIFIED IN OUR ORDINANCES AND THEN THE OTHER VOTE WAS TO ESTABLISH A CRIMINAL PENALTY OPTION CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR FOR ILLEGAL STREET VENDING. OUR ANALYSIS ABOUT THIS WAS IT'S A STRONGER ENFORCEMENT TOOL PARTICULARLY FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. WE HAD SEVERAL VENDORS WHO RECEIVED CITATIONS ALMOST DAILY AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NOTHING SEE IMPEDE CAN DO TO FORCE THAT INDIVIDUAL TO MOVE FROM THEIR LOCATION OTHER THAN WRITE ANOTHER CITATION THE MISDEMEANOR CLASSIFICATION ALSO ALLOWS FOR CITY MPD TO TRACK REPEAT OFFENDERS MORE EFFECTIVELY AND GIVES THEM A PATH TO RESOLVE RECURRING ISSUES BEYOND JUST WRITING ANOTHER CITATION I WANTED TO NOTE AND WE NOTED THIS DURING THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION IS OFFICERS HAVE A WIDE DISCRETION IN A WIN TO ESCALATE MISDEMEANORS TO AN ACTUAL ARREST. THE IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH ON A CRIMINAL PENALTY WE WOULD WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE ADHERE TO THE STATE'S STATUTORY CONSIDERATIONS AND THEN WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CPD RELIES ON A PROGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS FOR VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE, VERBAL WARNING, CIVIL CITATION AND THEN CRIMINAL PENALTY NOT AN IMMEDIATE CRIMINAL PENALTY AND IT MAINLY BE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE OFFENSE. SO SO NEXT STEPS BASED ON COUNCIL FEEDBACK THIS EVENING AS DESIRED STAFF CAN DRAFT ORDINANCE MODIFICATIONS FOR FUTURE VOTE OR TAKE ANY OTHER DIRECTION THE COUNCIL MAY DEEM NECESSARY. WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER FOR ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE FIRST ONE. GO AHEAD. YES. YES. COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON WAS TAKING NOTES. SO THE FIRST ONE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED ME TO DO COUNCIL MEMBER ON ME COUNCIL JD. COUNCIL MEMBER MAY I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER ASMIR YES MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MR. JONES AND MR. HEATH AND THE ENTIRE TEAM FOR DOING THIS WORK IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTING THE PILOT PHASE PILOT PROGRAM AS WELL AS PROVIDING US THE FEEDBACK AND THEY HAVE DONE ALL OF THAT WITHIN THE SAME CAPACITY OF OF THEIR STAFFS AND NEW MEMBERS. SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE WITHIN THE CAPACITY CURRENT CAPACITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON WE BOTH ATTENDED THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE HEARD BOTH FROM STREET VENDORS AS WELL AS FROM BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES AND WHAT WE HEARD CLEARLY FROM BOTH GROUPS IS THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING FOR VENDORS AS WELL AS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT. SO WE HEARD FROM STREET VENDORS AND BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES AND THE SOLUTION HAS TO RESPECT BOTH SIDES SO THAT WE ARE NOT PICKING THE WINNERS AND THE LOSERS. >> RIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD AND NOT TIPPING THE SCALE IN EITHER DIRECTION. >> SO OUR I THINK I WAS THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WHO SUPPORTED THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS TO EXTEND THE STREET VENDING REGULATIONS BEYOND THE EXISTING CONGESTED BUSINESS DISTRICT CITYWIDE. BUT I DID NOT SUPPORT THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION OF ESTABLISHING A CRIMINAL PENALTY OPTION AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY OUR HERO HERE IS HERE IS MY REASON BECAUSE AS I ATTENDED THE PUBLIC HEARING I GOT INSIDE FROM A STREET VENDORS AS WELL AS SMALL BUSINESSES. WE HAVE TO ASK WHY WE ARE HOLDING STREET VENDORS. THESE ARE SMALL ENTREPRENEURS TO A HIGHER ENFORCEMENT STANDARD THAN BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THERE IS NO MISDEMEANOR OR CRIMINAL A CRIMINAL CRIMINAL OPTION FOR A BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES THOUGH WE DON'T REGULATE THEM THERE IS NONE THAT EXISTS TODAY. SO I THINK THAT IS AN EQUITY CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. ALSO I HEARD FROM STREET VENDORS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE SHOULD NOT APPLY ONE SIZE FITS ALL SYSTEM APPROACH SO AT OUR PUBLIC HEARING THERE WERE STREET VENDORS THAT WERE WORKING SPECIFICALLY IN ARTS AND CREATIVE SPACE. SO THESE ARE ARTISTS, THESE ARE CREATIVES THEY SHOULD FACE THE SAME REGULATORY BURDEN AS FOOD VENDORS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS WHOLE PUBLIC HEALTH REQUIREMENTS THAT FOOD TRUCKS WOULD HAVE TO. >> SO WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OUR ENFORCEMENT APPROACH IS NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING THE VERY ENTREPRENEURS THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO SUPPORT. >> SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS HAVING A PATHWAY FOR CREATIVE AND FOR ARTISTS THAT IS NOT AS STRINGENT AS THOSE WHO ARE OPERATING IN SOME SORT OF FOOT SPACE. >> ALSO I HEARD THAT OUR PERMITTING PROCESS IS DIFFICULT . YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE SAME TEAM WITH NO ADDITIONAL CAPACITY DOING THE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE WORK THAT MR. JONES AND HIS TEAM HAS DONE. BUT WE DO ALSO FACTOR IN THIS THIS HAS ADDED QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO THE TEAM WITHOUT ADDING CAPACITY. SO WE DO NEED A FASTER PERMITTING PROCESS AND THAT WAS A FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED CONSISTENT REALLY FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT I ATTENDED AND A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN ARTISTS AND WHO ARE GOING TO BE DOING SOME SORT OF FOOD TRUCK BUSINESS AND ALSO I'M JUST LET ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T I TOOK NOTES WHEN I ATTENDED THE MEETINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT EVERYTHING AND ALSO WE NEEDED ENFORCEMENT APPROACH THAT PRIORITIZES FAIRNESS AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE KNOWING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL HURTS TO DO PERMITTING PROCESS I THINK HAVING HAVING THAT OPTION OF ISSUING A MISDEMEANOR SHOULDN'T BE THE FIRST SOLUTION THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE EXPAND OUR PERMITTING PROCESS VERY STREAMLINE WHERE WE HAVE DEDICATED TEAM JUST WORKING ON THAT WE CAN CLEARLY HAVE MORE COMPLIANCE AND RATHER THAN JUST GOING THIS ENFORCEMENT RIGHT OUT, ESPECIALLY THE CRIMINAL PENALTY OPTION BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW STREET VENDORS THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW CRIMINAL PENALTY COULD END UP AFFECTING OTHER PARTS OF THEIR LIFE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING HAVING A RELIABLE JOB AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN . SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THAT WILL NOT BE THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD IN MY PERSPECTIVE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER OWENS THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'LL BE BRIEF I THINK I JUST WANT TO LIFT UP SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ASMARA WAS TALKING ABOUT I TO SAT IN ON THE SESSION I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE SAFETY COMMITTEE BUT I WAS INCLINED TOWARDS SOMETHING CITYWIDE BUT ALSO WAS PRETTY RESISTANT TO THE SITUATION OF CRIMINAL PENALTY. I DO DRAW A DISTINCTION AS SHE DOES BETWEEN FOOD AND I WOULD NOT NECESSARILY SAY ARTIST BUT I WOULD SAY GOODS YOU KNOW IF CIVIL WERE SELLING T SHIRTS OR THERE ARE JUST A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT SEEM TO HAVE LESS RISK TO THE PUBLIC THAN FOOD DOES. AND SO I'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT . BUT ANOTHER ASPECT THAT I DID LIFT UP IN THAT MEETING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IS WHERE WE STAND WITH RESPECT TO THE SEIZURE OF GOODS. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEIZE GOODS BUT WE REALLY HAVE A FAILURE OF SOME OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO HOUSE THOSE GOODS DURING A PERIOD OF SEIZURE. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL WAY THAT WE CAN GET AROUND NECESSARILY CRIMINALIZATION? >> SO THE IF THE OBJECTS ARE BLOCKING THE RIGHT AWAY, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THE ITEMS FROM THE RIGHT AWAY. I THINK WHERE SOME OF THE GRAY AREA COMES IN IS WHAT CONSTITUTES BLOCKING THE RIGHT AWAY. IS IT BLOCKING A PEDESTRIAN PATH IF THEY SCOOTCH IT BACK OUT OF THE WAY AND MEET THAT MINIMUM WIDTH WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IS THAT OKAY? THE OTHER CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THAT WOULD REQUIRE CDOT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT SOME STAFF TO GO OUT TO DO THAT AND YOU KNOW WORKING IN THE FIELD IN THOSE SITUATIONS WE WOULD WE WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITHOUT SEEING PD BEING PRESENT TO DO THAT AND SO NOW WE'RE TYING UP ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO TO REMOVE, YOU KNOW, A TABLE OF ITEMS. THE STORAGE OF COURSES IS ON THAT BACK END. WHERE DO WE PUT THOSE THINGS AND HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR IT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S DOCUMENTED SO THAT AFTER A WEEK THEY COME BACK AND SAY OH I'M MISSING $5,000 WORTH OF GOODS WHEN YOU KNOW THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, $20 ON THE TABLE TO START, YOU KNOW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES WITH REMOVING THOSE ITEMS IN THE RIGHT AWAY THE ITEMS STREET MAINTENANCE OR CDOT TENDS TO REMOVE OR ABANDON ITEMS OR THINGS THAT ARE BLOCKING THE ROADWAY NOT NOT AN ITEM WHERE SOMEBODY IS ACTIVELY THERE WITH THEIR PROPERTY UNDERSTOOD. >> I'LL BE BRIEF AGAIN I JUST WANT TO LIFT UP THE COMMENT THAT I HAD MADE AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING AROUND GETTING SOME SENSE FROM SOME OF THESE CITIES THAT DO TAKE ITEMS WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IS BECAUSE AGAIN I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE ISSUING FINES RIGHT NOW. THOSE FINES ARE GOING UNPAID BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO IMPOSE A LEAN OR ANYTHING ON THE UNPAID FINE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A VEHICLE NECESSARILY. I JUST I THINK THAT MY SENSE FROM SEEING VENDORS ON THE STREETS IS THAT THEY DO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THEIR IN THEIR INVENTORY AND THAT THE THREAT OF HAVING THAT SEIZED AND NOT RETURNED TO THEM AND THE DEVIL'S GOING TO BE IN THE DETAILS AS TO HOW WE DO THAT. BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT BEFORE WE EXPLORE OUT AND OUT CRIMINALIZATION. I DO APPRECIATE THAT THAT'S HOPEFULLY A LAST RESORT THAT THE STAMPEDE WOULD GO TO. BUT TO THE POINT THAT YOU'VE RAISED THAT STAMPEDE WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SEIZURE STAMPEDES OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINALIZATION AS WELL. SO I MEAN I DO FEEL AS THOUGH WE'RE ALREADY SOMEWHAT GOING DOWN A PATH TO HAVING MORE STAMPEDE ENGAGEMENT ON THIS. BUT I DO APPRECIATE IF WE COULD GET SOME MORE KNOWLEDGE ON HOW CITIES THAT DO SEIZE GOODS, WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH WITH ENFORCEMENT. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER JD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION AND WHILE I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME FORM OF REGULATION AROUND STREET VENDING, I DON'T AGREE WITH CRIMINALIZING NOTION OF FREE VENDING. >> I THINK YOU KNOW AS I WAS DOING SOME OF MY OWN RESEARCH I SAW THAT OTHER CITIES IN NORTH CAROLINA GENERALLY REGULATE STREET BENDING BUT DO NOT RELY ON CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT. >> INSTEAD THEY'RE USING AS WE AS YOU DISCUSSING YOUR PRESENTATION CIVIL CITATIONS, EVEN ZONING RESTRICTIONS OR PERMIT REVOKING AND ALSO CITIES LIKE LOS ANGELES, NEW YORK CITY ,CHICAGO AND SAN FRANCISCO WHO FIRST STARTED TO CRIMINALIZE STREET BENDING ARE NOW DECRIMINALIZING STREET VENDING . >> THEY MANY HAVE STARTED TO DO THAT IN THE LAST DECADE SHIFTING TO ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. >> I THINK CRIMINAL CRIMINAL PENALTIES SUCH AS PUTTING A MISDEMEANOR REALLY WILL CREATE LONG TERM HARM. I THINK A MISDEMEANOR COULD REALLY IMPACT OR HAVING A MISDEMEANOR ON YOUR RECORD CAN REALLY IMPACT AND AFFECT EMPLOYMENT HOUSING IMMIGRATION STATUS AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC BENEFITS. I SAY THIS PARTICULARLY AND I AM IMPASSIONED BY THIS TOPIC SPECIFICALLY IS BECAUSE MY DISTRICT DISTRICT FIVE IN EAST CHARLOTTE IS FILLED WITH WONDERFUL STREET VENDORS WHO ARE SELLING A FLOWER CAUSE OR MANGOES ETC. BUT ALSO BECAUSE THEY COME FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OR HAVE LANGUAGE ACCESS BARRIERS. THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THEM. RIGHT? AND I THINK THERE'S THERE'S A GAP THERE AND I ALSO WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE SENTENCE THAT SAID THAT OFFICER DISCRETION IS WIDE. >> I THINK HAVING WIDE OFFICER DISCRETION REALLY INCREASES THE RISK OF UNEQUAL APPLICATION AND WHEN ESCALATION IS SUBJECT LIVE, I THINK THE ENFORCEMENT WILL OFTEN MIRROR EXISTING INEQUITIES THAT A LOT OF MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES FACE PARTICULARLY BLACK AND BROWN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO ARE TYPICALLY THE ONES IN MY DISTRICT DOING THE STREET BENDING. I ALSO THINK THAT THIS THIS THIS RECOMMENDATION DOES NOT REALLY ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUE THAT I THINK BOTH OUR SMALL BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES AND OUR STREET VENDORS ARE TRYING TO RAISE TO US WHICH IS A LACK OF VENDING OPPORTUNITY IS UNCLEAR RULES AND INSUFFICIENT DESIGNATE SPACES FOR OUR STREET VENDORS. >> I THINK IF ANYTHING RATHER THAN THINKING SHORT TERM AND RELYING WHICH I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIMES GOVERNMENTS RELY ON A LOT INSTEAD OF CRIMINALIZING WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF A BETTER WAY TO CREATE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO TO THE PROBLEM AND THEN I ALSO IN MY RESEARCH SAW THAT CITIES THAT CRIMINALIZE SPENDING OFTEN SEE LOWER COMPLIANCE FROM THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE WITH CPD AND OR NOT SIMPLY THEIR LOCAL PD DEPARTMENTS. >> I THINK ULTIMATELY THE GOAL SHOULD BE TO CREATE A SYSTEM OR A VENDING PERMITTING PROCESS THAT IS FAIRER, THAT IT'S PREDICTABLE AND ROOTED IN COMMUNITY WELL-BEING. >> I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON AS A SOLUTION ACCESSIBLE PERMITTING AND ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT THAT IS CONSISTENT AND TRANSPARENT WITHOUT CRIMINALIZING THE LIVELIHOODS OF FOLKS THAT MAYBE ONLY HAVE STREET VENDING AS THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME. AND SO I, I DON'T TAKE A LOT IF ANY APPRECIATION TOWARDS THE CRIMINALIZATION OF STREET VENDING PARTICULARLY AS I KNOW THAT IT IS STREET VENDING THAT MAKES CHARLOTTE BERRY VIBRANT SO WHAT I WOULD ASK STAFF OR THE COMMITTEE IS TO PROVIDE PERHAPS A DETAIL COMPARISON OF CIVIL VERSUS CRIMINAL ENFORCEMENT OUTCOMES AND PEER CITIES SUCH AS THE ONES YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WHICH THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE THAT ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS AND ALSO OF A CLEAR AND OBJECTIVE CRITERIA FOR WHEN ENFORCEMENT ESCALATES AND HOW DISCRETION IS LIMITED IF THIS COUNCIL DOES DECIDE TO CRIMINALIZE STREET BENDING AND THEN POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO TRY ON AND NOTE A OF OF DESIGNATED VENDING ZONES RIGHT SO WE CAN CREATE OUTSIDE MARKETS OR THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE LAST THING IS AN EQUITY IMPACT ANALYSIS OF INTRODUCING CRIMINAL PENALTIES VERSUS STRENGTHENING CIVIL ENFORCEMENT AND COOPERATION WITH THE CITY AND STATE. SO THANK YOU. >> OH AND ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT WOULD HELP US INFORM THIS POLICY BETTER THAT'S IT FOR ME. >> THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL MEMBER MALE THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ECHO A LOT OF THE SAME POINTS AND A LOT OF MY OTHER COWORKERS ARE HAVE GIVEN. >> I WONDERED AS YOU KNOW IF WE WERE TO CRIMINALIZE THIS DOES D.A. SPENCER MAYWEATHER'S OFFICE DO THEY EVEN HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IN AND GET THIS DONE? >> SO I DON'T WANT US TO SET OURSELVES UP IF IT'S ALREADY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO EXECUTE THEIR CURRENT RESPONSIBILITIES. SO THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST QUESTION IS THIS EVEN REALISTIC ? >> MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS IN MY LAST ONE ON ONE ABOUT BEING PROACTIVE PARTLY WHAT JD WAS SAYING WAS SOME DESIGNATED SPACE. I'M ALL ABOUT THINKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS. WE KNOW WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN THEIR HOUSING COMMITTEE. I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS FOR ONES IN MY DISTRICT IN DISTRICT THREE WHICH ALSO HAS A LARGE STREET MEANING POPULATION. SO JUST THINKING THROUGH CAN WE TEMPORARILY ACTIVATE SOME OF OUR CITY OWNED PARCELS TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR SOME OF OUR EXISTING STREET VENDORS TO GO AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF FUN IN GENERAL PEOPLE CAN GO HAVE LIKE A FESTIVAL KIND OF VIBE, GO TO ONE PLACE, ONE STOP SHOP TO KIND OF EXPLORE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT IN THE REPORT BECAUSE I DID ASK OUR MANAGER WHEN WE WOULD BE RECEIVING ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE RAISING, HE SAID THURSDAY. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ON THURSDAY ABOUT YEAH I TEXTED YOU THURSDAY. OH NEXT THURSDAY. OKAY SORRY. WELL YOU KNOW I LIKE DEADLINES. >> YOU KNOW THIS I LIKE TIMELINE SO THANK YOU. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE RAISED. I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND NOT JUST DO BUSINESS AS USUAL. SO EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THOSE SOLUTIONS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WATLINGTON THANK YOU, SIR. >> I JUST WANTED TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE SPIRIT OF SOLUTIONS. WELL AND FIRST I'LL SAY THIS AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME NOW AND SO I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUE TO ENGAGEMENT OF BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AS VENDORS IN TRYING TO COME TO A SOLUTION. >> I ECHO MANY OF THE STATEMENTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE IN REGARDS TO HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A WAY THAT IS EQUITABLE AND ULTIMATELY DELIVERS THE KIND OF CULTURE AND THRIVING TOURISM CITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE WITH OUR STREET VENDORS HELP TO PROVIDE THAT CULTURAL LANDSCAPE THAT'S UNIQUE TO CHARLOTTE. >> THEY GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO VISIT AND A REASON TO STAY. SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE SOME KIND OF CITYWIDE EFFORT HERE. I DO THINK THAT REGULATION IS NECESSARY TO DO SO IN A CONSISTENT MANNER. I JUST WANTED TO OFFER UP EVEN AS WE THINK ABOUT THINGS LIKE PARKING AND THESE KIOSKS THAT ARE GOING TO GO ACROSS THE CITY, WHY NOT JUST GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE PARTICULAR PLACES AND IF THERE'S A KIOSK OR SOME KIND OF QR CODE YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR PERMIT. HOW DO WE AUTOMATE THAT IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE ADDITIONAL STAFF OR MANPOWER JUST LIKE YOU WOULD DO FOR A PARKING? WHY CAN'T YOU USE THAT FOR A VENDOR SPACE THAT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED IT AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE AND WHATNOT SO THAT IF YOU ARE THERE YOU YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY REGISTERED IN. SO I JUST I JUST THINK THERE ARE SOME WAYS WE CAN LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE THIS A LOT MORE SIMPLE THAN MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. >> MORE TO COME. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER MAYFIELD . >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION. MINE IS REALLY JUST ADDING ON TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES MEASURE. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OUR FAITH IN HOUSING INITIATIVE AND LOOK AT PARTNERING BECAUSE AS A COMMUNITY WE WANT FESTIVALS, WE WANT EVENTS. WE JUST ALSO WANT THERE TO BE SAFETY. I DO NOT WANT TO SUPPORT A BUSINESS PULLING UP IN FRONT OF A BRICK AND MORTAR AND UTILIZING THEIR ELECTRICITY TO RUN WHATEVER IT IS WE ALL RECEIVE EMAILS AND CONCERNS FROM UPTOWN WHERE PEOPLE ARE OUT AND THEY HAVE BOOM BOXES OR OTHER THINGS GOING WHEN YOU HAVE ALSO RESIDENTIAL AREA PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE SOME OF US LIKE ME AND BE ABOUT 10:00 SO YOU KNOW AND YOU ARE PARTY AND 2 OR 3 O'CLOCK ISN'T NECESSARILY AS CONDUCIVE BUT WE HAVE PLACES AROUND WHERE YOU CAN SO YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT'S RIGHT HERE AT THE CHURCH. >> WELL WE'VE RECENTLY LOST I THINK THE FARMER'S MARKET THAT'S OFF OF STATESVILLE. SO I HAD SOMEONE AT MY CHURCH ASK ME YESTERDAY ABOUT WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WANTED TO USE THE PARKING LOT IN ORDER TO HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET. >> WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. YOU KNOW PORTLAND'S TAGLINE KEEP IT WEIRD. >> WELL WE HAVE WHEN WE LOOK AT FAITH AND HOUSING AND WE LOOK AT THE FACT THAT OUR CHURCH COMMUNITY HAS PARKING LOTS, HAS PARKING THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY TO ACTUALLY GET IN COMMUNITY AND HAVE SOME FESTIVALS. I DEFINITELY LOVE THE IDEA FROM DR. WATLINGTON UTILIZING THE KIOSKS TO GET THE PERMITTING BUT I DO WANT IT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT I DO SUPPORT US HAVING AN ACTUAL PROCESS IN PLACE BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD PUT THE BURDEN ON THAT BRICK AND MORTAR TO HAVE TO HANDLE WHEN I DECIDE I WANT TO SET UP MY BUSINESS IN FRONT OF YOUR BUSINESS THAT ONE IS BLOCKING YOU FROM HAVING CUSTOMERS COME IN TO POTENTIALLY DIRECT COMPETITION . >> THREE I'M USING YOUR ELECTRICITY IN ORDER TO DO IT SO I HAVE A CLEAR I HAVE A REAL CHALLENGE WITH THAT BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS IN PLACE. I'D HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CRIMINALIZATION OF IT BUT I DO THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING SO FAR IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THE FINES IF YOU ARE FINED I THINK HAVING CHECKING IN WHAT I LEGAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF YOU HIT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, IF WE WERE TO CONFISCATE ITEMS WE HAVE ENOUGH WAREHOUSE SPACE WE DO A SURPLUS SELL OF EVERY SO OFTEN A YEAR SO WE GOT SPACE WE CAN IDENTIFY A WRONG GOODS I'M NOT I'M NOT ANTICIPATING US PUTTING ENOUGH THINGS IN THERE WILL BE MORE THAN A CLOSET YET WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME CLEAR RULES BUT I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL CONSIDER THAT AS WELL HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH FAITH AND HOUSING TO HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TO POTENTIALLY SUPPORT THE FESTIVALS, SUPPORT THE GROWTH AND THE CREATIVITY WAS AT CHARLOTTE CHARLOTTE THIS WEEKEND. AMAZING A BIT. HOW DO WE CREATE MORE OF THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND NOT JUST ONLY A CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR? THANK YOU MR. MANAGER MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILMAN RODRIGUEZ THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM I THINK LIKE MANY THINGS THE DIFFICULTY HERE IS RECOGNIZING THAT MANY OF THESE VENDORS ARE SMALL BUSINESSES WHOSE PRESENCE ENHANCE IS THEIR LOCATION AND SO WE WANT THEM WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND ENABLE THEM. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND SOME ARE GENUINELY BAD ACTORS AND THEY SET UP IN A PLACE THAT THAT IMPAIRS A BUSINESS OR THEY THEY CREATE A NUISANCE OR AN OBSTRUCTION. THEY CREATE A HAZARD IN SOME CASES. SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE DRAW THAT BRIGHT LINE? AND THAT'S THE HARD PART. I CAN HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT THERE. >> I DO THINK THAT FROM WHAT CNN HAS SAID THAT THEIR ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE BAD ACTORS IS IMPROVED IF THEY HAVE THIS CRIMINAL SANCTION POSSIBILITY IN THEIR POCKET BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE GET FINES AND IT'S A BUSINESS EXPENSE AND THEY JUST STAND THERE AND BASICALLY STICK THEIR TONGUE OUT. AND I DO THINK OUR OFFICERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTION SUPPORTED BY A GENUINE REMEDY IF THEY ARE DEFY IT OPENLY OR IF PEOPLE DON'T JUST KEEP PAYING FINES. IT'S LIKE SOME PEOPLE PARK WHEREVER THEY WANT AND THEY DON'T CARE. THEY KEEP GETTING TICKETS AND THEY KEEP PAYING THE TICKETS AND IT'S JUST THE COST OF PARKING. SO PERSONALLY I GUESS WE COULD START DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT THE CRIMINAL THINGS AND SEE HOW EFFECTIVE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING CAN BE AND SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH IT THAT WAY. MY PERSONAL VIEW IS THAT WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF GIVING THE POLICE SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD FALL BACK ON IN THE EVENT THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH ONE OF THOSE BAD ACTORS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >> YOU WANT TO BRING US HOME ON THIS TOPIC? >> YES, SIR. YES SIR. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION. I JUST WANTED IN CLOSING TO SAY THIS TOPIC IS OUT OF COMMITTEE SO IT WAS VOTED OUT OF COMMITTEE. IT'S NOW IN THE HANDS OF COUNCIL AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MODERNIZE OUR ORDINANCE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY AS WE ARE NEARING A CITY OF A MILLION PEOPLE AND WE'VE HEARD FROM SMALL BUSINESSES, VENDORS, RESIDENTS THAT SOME LEVEL OF REGULATION IS NEEDED AND SO THE ONUS IS ON THE ENTIRE COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH THAT PROCESS AND WORKING WITH MR. JONES, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. >> I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AROUND THE FOOD VENDORS BECAUSE FOOD VENDORS WERE BROUGHT UP SEVERAL TIMES. FOOD VENDORS ARE PERMITTED THROUGH MECKLENBURG COUNTY SO IF A RESIDENT OR SOMEONE IS SELLING FOOD ON THE STREET THEY ALREADY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT FROM MECKLENBURG COUNTY THEN THEY ARE OUT OF ALIGNMENT. SO FROM A FROM A STREET VENDING PROCESS IF YOU'RE SELLING FOOD YOU ALREADY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS INCLUDING FOOD TRUCKS . FOOD TRUCKS ARE ARE REGULATED THROUGH THE BOARD OF HEALTH AND WHICH IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF MECKLENBURG COUNTY. I DO ALSO JUST IN CLOSING WANT TO SAY WE HAVE AND MR. JONES COULD POTENTIALLY SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL BUT EVEN IN NODA WHERE STREET VENDING IS IS RESTRICTED WE HAVE SOME VENDORS WHO CONTINUE TO GO OUT AND AND SET UP SHOP AND VEND AND THAT IS CREATING SOME CHALLENGES. >> AND WE WE ALSO HAD A SHOOTING IN NODA THAT WAS AN ALTERCATION BETWEEN TWO VENDORS AND SO WE JUST WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AS WE LAY OUT AN ORDINANCE TO REGULATE STREET VENDING CITYWIDE AND WE ALSO WANT TO CREATE SOME LEVEL OF STICKINESS OR TEETH THAT WILL ALLOW NOT ONLY CODE ENFORCEMENT BUT ICMP READY TO ADMINISTER THIS WITH SOME LEVEL OF STICKINESS. >> SO THIS IS OUR FIRST DISCUSSION MORE DISCUSSIONS TO COME AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU ALL HAD ON THIS TOPIC. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. YOU HAVE THE NEXT ITEM PASSAGE OF VEHICLE FOR ME. OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. CITY MANAGER OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO JUST THE JAWS OF WAS IT JUST I KNOW SOMETHING TELLS THAT I DON'T WANT TO HURT THIS THIS GREAT MOMENT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS NOW IT'S NOT IN COMMITTEE. IT'S WITH THE COUNCIL AND WE'RE JUST IN A STRANGE PLACE. >> WE COULD ACTUALLY WELL, SO MR. MANAGER, IF I CAN JUST RESPOND I THINK AND PLEASE COLLEAGUES HELP ME IF I IF I'M MISINTERPRETING THIS BUT FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD THIS EVENING OR THIS AFTERNOON IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE IS AN APPETITE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF CITYWIDE REGULATION. >> HOWEVER WE THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS TO MR. JONES AS IT RELATES TO PEER CITIES HOW THEY ADMINISTER THEIR CITYWIDE REGULATIONS THERE WERE QUESTIONS AROUND SEIZING ITEMS AND ALSO CRIMINALIZATION IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL. >> SO AT CITY MANAGER I'M UNDER THE BELIEF THAT MR. JONES WILL COME BACK WITH SOME LEVEL OF OF A DRAFT OF THE OF AN ORDINANCE AND WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BASED ON THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED IT SO. >> WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA OH NO. >> WE GOT TO GO. >> YOU NEVER WANT TO RAISE YOUR HAND LIKE THAT MALE ASK ME THREE AGGREY AND GRAHAM HAVE SPOKEN SO COULD I GO TO GRAHAM FIRST PLEASE JOIN. >> I'LL BE VERY QUICK. >> I THINK THAT THE MOST EXPEDIENT THING TO DO IS JUST SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AND THEN WE CAN RESOLVE THESE OUTSTANDING ISSUES THERE AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR FINAL VOTE. >> I MAKE A MOTION NO NOT OH NOW WE'LL COME. COUNCILOR GRAHAM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO AROUND SO YOU ALL ONE PERSON COUNCIL GREAT WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU SO YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE MEMBER MALE I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER GRAHAM AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION BUT I CAN WAIT TO GO ROUND. >> THANK YOU. BUT WHEN WE COME BACK I'M DOING IT. >> OKAY. OKAY. GOT YOU YET? OKAY COUNCILMEMBER WHAT I DO IS GO I COUNCIL MEMBER ASK ME I WAS GOING TO SAY COMBINE WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON SAID AND WHAT GRAHAM SAID YOU BRING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WITH ALL THE ANSWERS BECAUSE WE NEED ANSWERS IN ORDER TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP UP SO THAT THE COMMITTEE IS PREPARED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP . >> IT'S OKAY. OH COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DRIGGS SO I THINK IN RESPONSE TO THE MANAGER'S QUESTION THIS WAS CONSIDERED AND VOTED OUT OF COMMITTEE EVERYTHING WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. THEREFORE THE NEXT STEP IS THAT SOMETHING GOES ON THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL ACTION AND WE USE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FULL COUNCIL AND NOT JUST THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IF THE COMMITTEE SEES IT AGAIN BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WAS PART OF THE COMMITTEE CONVERSATION THE FIRST TIME WE GET A VOTE. >> THAT WAS HIS PERSPECTIVE COLLEAGUE LET'S RESPECT THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL BE REAL QUICK SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S HIS PERSPECTIVE BUT FROM WHAT I HEAR THE MAJORITY IS NOT OKAY WITH THE CRIMINAL OPTION. SO NOW WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION. AND WHAT I HEARD IS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE STREAMLINE PERMITTING PROCESS USE OF THIS BAR CODES AT THE KIOSK AND ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT EVERYONE ELSE ASKED. I DON'T THINK WE ARE READY FOR THIS TO BE IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL SO WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, ANSWER ALL OF THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS BEFORE IT COMES UP IN FRONT OF THE FULL COUNCIL. >> OKAY NOW WITH SPEED DATING COUNCIL MEMBER JD THEN WE'RE GOING TO COUNCIL MEMBER MEMBER FOR THE MOTION MANAGER JONES IS THERE ANYTHING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT PROHIBITS US FROM SENDING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE? >> NO, I'M SORRY. >> NO I'M SORRY. ATTORNEY LESLIE BY YOU WOKE UP THE CITY ATTORNEY IT OH YEAH, YEAH. >> NO, THERE'S NOTHING IN YEAH SO I AGREE. >> I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE AND COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION ,WE SHOULD SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. SO I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES COUNCILMAN MAYO TO MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. I MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE TO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND THEN WE WORK THROUGH SOME MORE THINGS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GRAHAM TO SECOND ARE WE READY FOR THE QUESTION? ARE THOSE IN FAVOR SIT IN THIS BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. GREAT JOB. >> GREAT JOB. YOU GUYS DO IT THIS MORNING. THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD. >> MADAM CHAIR ANDERSON, WE TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT ITEM. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT ITEM ALSO HAS BEEN VOTED OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE SO IT'S NO LONGER IN COMMITTEE. >> THIS TOPIC WILL BE FOCUSED ON PASSENGER VEHICLES FOR HIRE AND WE AS A COMMITTEE AND I RECOGNIZE MY COMMITTEE AGAIN MESSAGE MIRROR MITCHELL GRAHAM AND MR. DRIGGS AS A COMMITTEE WE'VE HAD ROBUST DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC AND THANK YOU TO CITY ATTORNEY MS. BATTLE WHO HAS LED US THROUGH THIS EFFORT. WE'VE HAD LISTENING SESSIONS WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO OPERATE THESE BUSINESSES. WE HAD SEVERAL TOUCH POINTS. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN VERY ENGAGED IN OUR IN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS AS WELL AND AND SO WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE THE COMMITTEE VOTED ON THANK YOU VOTED ON A SPECIFIC SPECIFIC METHOD TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC AND I'M GOING TO ALLOW ATTORNEY BATTLE TO WALK US THROUGH THAT SO THANK YOU ATTORNEY BATTLE GOOD EVENING EVERYONE I'M BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON PASSENGER VEHICLE FOR HIRE I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK MY COLLEAGUES IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE I'M THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND OUR PBA STAKEHOLDERS FOR ALL OF THEIR INPUT THROUGHOUT THIS VERY INTENTIONAL AND THOUGHTFUL PROCESS. >> AND SO AS WE GET INTO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND AND SORT OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND PVH WE WILL LOOK AT THE LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS WE WILL THEN DISCUSS PROPOSED ORDINANCES AND END WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >> A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND HERE. >> THIS KIND OF STARTED IN AUGUST OF 2024 AFTER STAKEHOLDERS SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT PROPOSED CHANGES TO OUR PVH ORDINANCE. I WILL NOTE TO THE GROUP OR JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE PVH ORDINANCE HAS NOT HAD A MAJOR UPDATE SINCE 2017 AND IN FALL 2024 AND FALL 2025 THE CHIEF OF POLICE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THESE PROPOSED CHANGES FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN JUNE 2025. >> I KNOW THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG LEAP BUT WE WERE DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND IN SOME POTENTIAL DRAFTING AND DISCUSSION. BUT IN JUNE 2025 WE HAD AN IN-PERSON MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND A SMALL GROUP OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS JUST TO GET THEIR INITIAL INPUT AND THOUGHTS ON WHAT DIRECTION THE CITY SHOULD MOVE IN. IN OCTOBER 2025 I CAME BEFORE A FULL COUNCIL TO DISCUSS PVH HAD A BUSINESS MEETING AND THEN IN DECEMBER WE HAD TWO STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ONE IN THE DAYTIME, ONE IN THE EVENING SO THAT WE COULD REACH THE WIDEST AUDIENCE POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO AGAIN MEET WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS TO UPDATE THEM ON WHERE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS AND GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK AND CONCERNS IN JANUARY OF 2026 MAYOR LYLES REFERRED TO PVH TO THE SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION AND OUT OF COMMITTEE. IN FEBRUARY 2026 WE HELD A VIRTUAL INPUT SESSION WITH PVH STAKEHOLDERS AND MEMBERS OF THE SAFETY COMMITTEE. IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION TO HAVE A LARGER GROUP OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUT AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND THEN IN MARCH 2026 THE SAFETY COMMITTEE VOTED THE PVH MATTER OUT OF COMMITTEE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THE TIME AND SO SOME OF THE LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PVH THESE ARE JUST REMINDERS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO. NORTH CAROLINA GRANTS MUNICIPALITIES EXPRESS AUTHORITY TO REGULATE TAXI CABS . HOWEVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN, STATE LAW EXPLICITLY PROHIBITS LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES FROM REGULATING TRANSPORTATION . NETWORK COMPANIES OFTEN ABBREVIATE IT AS T IN C'S OR COLLOQUIALLY KNOWN SORT OF AS RIDE SHARE COMPANIES WHERE YOU CAN HAIL A VEHICLE THROUGH AN APP WITH THOSE SORT OF LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS FROM OUR 2024 STAKEHOLDER LETTER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE BEFORE YOU SORT OF GREEN CHART THAT HAS THE FULL LANGUAGE OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCES AND SOME PROPOSED CHANGES ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR OFFICE. THIS SLIDE IS JUST SORT OF A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THOSE BUT THERE WERE ABOUT 19 CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED FROM OUR STAKEHOLDER GROUP EVERYTHING FROM THE APPLICATION PROCESS DRUG SCREENING, TRAINING FOR PBA TO DRIVERS UPFRONT PRICING AND RATE CHANGES FOR LIMOS IN BLACK CARS, THINGS ABOUT VEHICLE RACKS, METERED VEHICLES AT THE AIRPORT AND THIRD PARTY BACKGROUND CHECK. JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT'S IN THAT LARGER CHART THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEFORE YOU WE HAD A DIFFERENT WE ACTUALLY WE HAD SOME SIMILAR PROPOSALS FROM OUR INPUT SESSIONS BUT ALSO RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT WE HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN MADE AWARE OF FROM OUR STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY AND PVH. >> ONE OF THOSE WAS TO CUT THE LOOKBACK PERIOD FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECKS FROM TEN YEARS TO FIVE YEARS. THEY WERE ALSO SEVERAL PROPOSALS FROM THE LIMO INDUSTRY ABOUT HAVING BLACK CAR STANDS AT THE AIRPORT AND IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN UPTOWN THERE WERE CONCERNS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT ADDING FLEET VEHICLE MINIMUMS THAT COMPANIES MUST HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES TO OPERATE UNDER A PASSENGER VEHICLE FOR HIRE. >> THERE WERE FREQUENTLY QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDING AN ORDINANCE SECTION TO SPECIFIC ADDRESS LIMOS AND BLACK CARS INCLUDING RATE CHANGES FOR THOSE LIMOS, LIMOS AND BLACK CARS AND UNIVERSAL UPFRONT PRICING. >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT THE UPFRONT PRICING IS A LARGE AND PASSIONATE POINT FROM OUR PVH COMMUNITY. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US A LOT OF FEEDBACK, A LOT OF INPUT AND A LOT A LOT OF IDEAS ON AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THOROUGHLY AND THOUGHTFULLY LOOKED INTO ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WE CONSIDERED WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS WE WOULD MAKE TO THE COMMITTEE IN THEREFORE MOVING TO FULL COUNCIL. >> AND WITH THAT BEING SAID OUR CAA OR EXCUSE ME CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ENCAPSULATED ON THIS SLIDE THE FIRST BEING ABOUT APPLICATION PROCESSES AND ALSO CHANGING AND ADDING A DEFINITION OF OPERATOR TO OUR PVH ORDINANCE THAT SOMEONE CAN BE AN OPERATOR AND ALSO SEPARATELY OWN A PVH COMPANY. THE THIRD IS ABOUT TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND REMOVE VING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PVH DRIVERS TO TAKE A SORT OF HISTORY OF CHARLOTTE LESSON WHERE THEY HAVE TO LEARN ABOUT DIFFERENT LANDMARKS AND POINTS OF INTEREST IN THE CITY GIVEN THE WIDE AVAILABILITY OF GOOGLE AND GPS YOU KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT THAT PVH DRIVERS COULD GET ON THE ROAD QUICKER WITHOUT HAVING TO SCHEDULE THOSE TRAINING COURSES. >> WE ALSO CHANGED FROM THE OR ARE RECOMMENDING EXCUSE ME TO CHANGE THE CURRENT DRUG SCREENING TO A FIVE PANEL TEST RIGHT NOW WITH MUCH HIGHER BUT THE FIVE PANEL IS VERY SIMILAR OR THE SAME AS TO WHAT THE NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES HAS FOR COMMERCIAL DRIVERS AND SORT OF MIRRORING THE DMV REQUIREMENTS THERE CHANGES IN CRIMINAL HISTORY FOR A NUMBER OF FIVE WOULD INCLUDE THAT CURRENTLY IF A PERSON HAS ANY SORT OF PENDING CRIMINAL MATTER ON THEIR RECORD THEIR APPLICATION WOULD STOP IN THE PROCESS UNTIL THAT CRIMINAL MATTER WAS RESOLVED. WE ARE PROPOSING THAT APPLICATIONS WITH PENDING CRIMINAL MATTERS CONTINUE THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS UNLESS ONE OF THOSE PENDING CHARGES IS ONE THAT IF THEY WERE TO BE FOUND GUILTY WOULD DISQUALIFY THEM. SO IF IT'S A CRIMINAL CHARGE THAT WOULD NOT DISQUALIFY SOMEONE FROM GETTING A PERMIT THAT THAT APPLICATION WOULD CONTINUE. WE ALSO LOOKED AT RATE CHANGES FOR AGENCY VEHICLES MEANING THAT TRANSFER EXCUSE ME MEANING THAT RATE CHANGES FOR AN AGENCY RIDE WOULD NOT COST ANY MORE OR LESS THAN IT WOULD BE IF THAT RIDE WERE TO BE BOOKED. TRADITIONALLY A LOT OF THE AGENCY RIDES ARE WITH S OR THE DFS SYSTEM. WE ALSO LOOKED AT AND MEET OUR PROPOSED METERED VEHICLES AT THE AIRPORT MUST USE A METER AND NOT A SORT OF RIDESHARE APP IF YOU ARE A TAXI CAB AND ALSO CURRENTLY VEHICLES MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE ROAD FOR PVH AT THE TEN YEAR MARK AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS PROPOSING INCREASING THAT AGE LIMIT TO 15 YEARS SO LONG AS THE VEHICLE IS OPERABLE AND PASSES SAFETY INSPECTION FOR NUMBER NINE. ROOF LIGHTING WAS SOMETHING THAT THE INDUSTRY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT A LOT OF THAT ROOF LIGHTING YOU SEE IN OUR TRADITIONAL TAXICAB IS ONLY MADE BY A FEW COMPANIES AND CAN BE EXPENSIVE TO PURCHASE AND OR REPLACE AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO ALLOW IN ADDITION TO ROOF LIGHTING THE SORT OF LED LIGHTING THAT YOU SEE IN SOME OF THE VEHICLES THAT HAVE RIDE SHARE WITH THE NAME OF THE PARTICULAR RIDESHARE COMPANY IN THEIR WINDSHIELD JUST TO OFFER VARIOUS FORMS OF LIGHTING TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS A PVH OR AVAILABLE TAXI CAB NUMBER TEN WE RECOMMEND THAT BLACK CAR AND LIMO STANDS ARE PLACED IN UPTOWN. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE ANYTHING NEW THEY COULD USE THE EXISTING TAXI CAB STANDS. HOWEVER WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING AT THIS TIME THAT WE MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE LIMO OR TAXI STANDS AT THE AIRPORT. NUMBER 11 WE DO RECOMMEND A COMPLETELY NEW SECTION TO COVER BLACK CARS AND LIMOS IN OUR PVH ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT DRAFT OF OUR PVH IS GEARED MORE TOWARDS TAXIS AND METERED RIDES AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO ADD A SECTION THAT DEALS MORE SPECIFICALLY WITH LIMOS AND BLACK CARS AND RECOMMENDATION 12 WOULD BE TO CHANGE TO INCREMENTAL BILLING FOR BLACK CARS AND LIMOS AND WE'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON FARES AND THE NEXT SLIDE. >> AND SO I'M GOING TO GO A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER HERE IF YOU WILL ALLOW AND I'LL DO UNIVERSAL UPFRONT PRICING SORT OF LAST ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE. BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS RECOMMENDING INCREMENTAL BILLING FOR BLACK CARS AS IT CURRENTLY SITS NO MATTER THE LENGTH OF THE RIDE IF A PATRON HAILS OR BOOKS A BLACK CAR RIDE THEY MUST BE BILLED FOR A PERIOD OF ONE HOUR EVEN IF THEY ARE ONLY TAKING A RIDE THAT IS A FEW BLOCKS LONG. AND SO WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS INCREMENTAL BILLING IN A 15 MINUTE INCREMENT. SO NO MATTER HOW SHORT THE RIDE IS, THE MINIMUM BILL WOULD BE 15 MINUTE INCREMENTS, THEN 30, THEN 45 AN HOUR. WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR BLACK CAR AND LIMO COMMUNITY ON THAT AND IT BENEFITS THEIR COMPANIES AND CONSUMERS IN SORT OF AN EQUITABLE WAY FOR HAVING A CLOSER BILL TO THE ACTUAL TIME IN THAT BLACK CAR. >> PREVIOUSLY IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL FLAT RATE PRICING FROM CLT AIRPORT TO DIFFERENT POINTS OF INTEREST IN CHARLOTTE. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECOMMENDS WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AREAS LIKE UNIVERSITY CITY, BALLANTINE, SOUTH PARK, NODA AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THAT WOULD FIT INTO A MAP AND ALSO THE CONSIDERATIONS WITH TIME OF DAY AND DAY OF THE WEEK. AND SO IF THAT'S A ROUTE THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO GO DOWN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE COULD FULLY RECOMMEND ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL FLAT RATE PRICING FROM THE AIRPORT AND NOW GETTING BACK INTO UNIVERSAL UPFRONT PRICING AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR PVH COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR COMMUNICATION AS IT RELATES TO THESE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT RECOMMEND UNIVERSAL UPFRONT PRICING AS IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE PVH ORDINANCE AND FOR METERS IN A TAXI IF ALL RIDES ARE SORT OF PRE ARRANGED AND PAID UP FRONT WHEN A PERSON HAILS A CAB THERE WOULD BE NO REASON TO HAVE A METER IN A TAXI CAB TO GIVE YOU ALL AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT UPFRONT PRICING LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE SOMEONE HAILING A CAB AND WHEN THE DRIVER STOPS THEY WOULDN'T NEGOTIATE A SORT OF PRICE THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THAT PARTICULAR FARE. HOWEVER, GIVEN THE FACT THAT IT IS A TAXI CAB AND METERED UNDER OUR PVH ORDINANCE THE METER WOULD HAVE TO RUN DURING THAT FARE. THIS GIVES US A SORT OF ONE HIGH PROBABILITY OF DISPARITIES OR POTENTIAL DISCRIMINATORY OR PREDATORY FARE SETTING BUT ALSO COULD CREATE DIFFERENT PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS IF SOMEONE GETS TO THEIR DESTINATION POINT IN REALIZES THAT THE AGREED UPON RATE IS FAR HIGHER THAN THE METERED RATE AND THAT COULD CAUSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISPUTES WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD NEED TO BE CALLED OUT WHEN WE ARE HAVE PEOPLE ARGUING ABOUT METERED FARES VERSUS PRE-ARRANGED FARES BUT LIKEWISE IT COULD HAPPEN WITH OUR DRIVERS AS WELL IF THE METER IS HIGHER THAN WHAT THE PRE-ARRANGED COST IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOME LEVEL OF PRE ARRANGED AND AN UPFRONT PRICING IN CHARLOTTE WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF AN UPFRONT PRICING OPTION FOR TAXI CABS AND THERE ARE APPS LIKE CURB CRB AND ARROW AIR PRO THAT ARE SORT OF DISPATCHING AND BROKERAGE APPS WHERE PEOPLE CAN HAIL A CAB TO IN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY WOULD HAIL A TRADITIONAL TNC. WHEN I WAS LOOKING INTO CITIES THAT HAVE UPFRONT PRICING THE LARGE MAJORITY OF CITIES THAT HAVE UPFRONT PRICING ARE THOSE THAT USE OR PERMIT THE USAGE OF APPS LIKE CURB AND ARROW IN NEW YORK CITY AND WASHINGTON DC THEY BOTH ALLOW THE USE OF THE CURB APP PENSILVA SENIOR HAS FLAT RATES FOR CERTAIN ROUTES WITHIN THEIR CITY IN SAN FRANCISCO THERE ALSO ALLOWS USAGE OF CURB ARROW AND ANOTHER APP CALLED FLYWHEEL THOSE ARE APPS AGAIN THAT PERSONS WOULD USE TO HAIL A TRADITIONAL METERED TAXI CAB AND THE PRICE WOULD BE UPFRONT BEFORE THEY SELECT TO TAKE THAT PARTICULAR RIDE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT A FEW OF OUR TAXI CAB COMPANIES IN CHARLOTTE DO UTILIZE THESE APPS AND THERE IS A A LEVEL OF UPFRONT PRICING FOR TAXI CABS IN OUR CURRENT PVH ORDINANCE I SAY THAT IT'S A LEVEL BECAUSE EITHER A CAB WILL DRIVE WITH A METERED FARE OR THEY WOULD USE AN APP LIKE CURB OR ARROW BUT THEY WOULD NOT USE BOTH IN ESSENCE IF A TAXI CAB WERE TO USE ONE OF THESE APPS THEY WOULD BE A T AND C OR FOR THAT PARTICULAR FARE AND THEN THEY COULD LATER PICK BACK UP ON A METERED FARE IF THEY WANTED TO. BUT I DID WANT TO OFFER THAT TO COUNCIL AS I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR STICKING POINT AND HAS HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR PVH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT UPFRONT PRICING. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND SOME ARE LEAVING AN AIRPORT AND WANTING TO KNOW YOU KNOW HOW I HAVE $10, HOW FAR WILL THAT GET ME? WELL THERE IS AN OPTION TO LEARN HOW MUCH OF THERE COULD BE THROUGH THOSE PARTICULAR APPS WITHOUT THE CITY INSTITUTING ITS OWN UPFRONT PRICING. IF THE CITY WERE TO DO THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO CREATE ITS OWN APP GENERALLY SPEAKING A LOT OF APP CREATION COULD BE IN THE SIX FIGURE MARK. IT WOULD ALSO COST TIME AND MONEY TO CREATE AND MAINTAIN THIS CITY'S OWN SORT OF UPFRONT PRICING TAXI APP. IN THE RESEARCH THAT I DID I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY CITY CREATE ITS OWN UPFRONT PRICING APP. THEREFORE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS NOT RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH UPFRONT PRICING BUT YOU CONTINUE WITH PVH AS IT AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW FOR FARES. >> SO THE GOALS OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO ADJUST TO INDUSTRY CHANGES IN RIDE SHARE AVAILABILITY. WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE SOMEWHAT PREDICAMENT THAT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN PUT IN CREATING OR EXCUSE ME COMPETING AGAINST BIGGER TNC COMPANIES BUT WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND CONSUMER SAFETY SERVICE QUALITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AN IMPROVED EXPERIENCE FOR CITIZENS, DRIVERS AND COMPANIES AND ALSO THAT THAT OUR INTERNAL PVH POLICIES AND PROCESSES ARE TRANSPARENT TO OUR PVH COMMUNITY AND EFFICIENTLY PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN GET DRIVERS ON THE ROAD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >> AGAIN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT MANY OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ALIGN WITH FREQUENT CHANGES, PROPOSALS AND REQUESTS FROM OUR PVH COMMUNITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES TRANSPORTATION, TRAVEL AND TOURISM IN CHARLOTTE AS WE UPDATE THIS PVH ORDINANCE. AGAIN THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OUR PVH STAKEHOLDERS TO GET US TO THIS POINT OF MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS FULL COUNCIL. >> THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL ON ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS NOT ADDRESSED THIS EVENING AND WHENEVER COUNCIL IS READY WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING FORWARD DRAFT ORDINANCE REFINE MINTS AND UPDATED AS NEEDED. >> THANK YOU. I'M A TURNOVER MADAM CHAIR AND IN THE OPEN TO COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN I JUST WANT TO THANK ATTORNEY BATTLE FOR ALL THIS WORK. IT'S BEEN VERY DETAILED WORK AND VERY GRASS ROOTS WORK WORKING WITH THE SMALL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE SPACE AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT THIS THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND WELL AS WE VOTED IT OUT OF COMMITTEE THE ACTUAL REVISIONS THAT ATTORNEY BATTLE JUST WALKED THROUGH AND AS I AS I MENTIONED AND AS SHE MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF TOUCH POINTS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SPECIFICALLY THE SMALL BUSINESSES WITHIN THIS SPACE. AND I HAD MS.. AJMERA THANK I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ECHO COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON'S POINT ABOUT THANKING YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE INCORPORATED A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PVH COMMUNITY INTO THE UPDATE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT BASED ON THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT I AND COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON ATTENDED OF WITH OUR PVH COMMUNITY, IS THAT WHAT WE HAD CLEARLY HEARD IS THAT SMALL BUSINESS SMALL IS THAT SMALL BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE IN THIS SPACE WANT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD RIGHT? AND I THINK YOU ADDRESSED THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION MOTION BECAUSE THAT'S A FAIR CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IF YOU RESTRICT OUR LOCAL OPERATORS WHILE UBER AND LYFT ARE USING FLEXIBLE PRICING IN MORE DYNAMIC PRICING, WE RISK PUTTING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS AND WE PUT THEM AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE THESE ARE THE LOCAL OPERATORS WHO SHOWED UP, SHARED THEIR CONCERNS AND ARE TRYING TO COMPETE IN A CHANGING ENVIRONMENT IN A CHANGING MARKET AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SOMEHOW FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS WHILE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IF THERE IS PRICING DISCRIMINATION, IF THERE IS A HYBRID APPROACH THAT WE CAN TAKE WITHOUT HAVING TO DEVELOP AN APP INTERNALLY. I HAVE SEEN IN MANY CITIES WHERE AT THE AIRPORT THERE IS AN OPERATOR THAT ACTUALLY DOES UP FRONT PRICING FOR THE PVH COMMUNITY HEAVY EXPLORED THAT MODEL BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT AT THEIR AT LEAST 2 TO 3 AIRPORTS ACROSS THE NATION. >> NO WE HAVE NOT EXPLORED MAKING CHANGES FROM DESTINATION POINT FROM THE AIRPORT TO DIFFERENT DESTINATION POINTS. WE BELIEVE ONE OF THOSE STEPS WILL BE SORT OF MAPPING OUT THE DIFFERENT POINTS OF INTEREST IN CHARLOTTE AND THEN MAKING CALCULATIONS FROM THERE. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. >> I THINK THAT WILL HELP IN TERMS OF HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES COMPETE WITH APPS LIKE UBER AND LYFT BECAUSE UBER AND LYFT MODEL IS NOT BASED ON THE DISTANCE IS BASED ON THE DAY, IT'S BASED ON THE TIME AND IT'S BASED ON THE DEMAND. SO WE ARE NOT TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES WILL NOT BE IN BUSINESS SO I THINK THAT IS A SERIOUS CONCERN THAT WE DO NEED TO TAKE IN SERIOUSLY WHILE KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE MIGHT BE DISCRIMINATION THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. AND I THINK THERE IS A WAY THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT I CAN AT LEAST THINK OF THREE CITIES THAT I HAVE TAKEN A CAB FROM THE AIRPORT AND THEY THERE IS A THIRD PARTY IT'S SORT OF LIKE AN OPERATOR THAT ACTUALLY TELLS YOU THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST IF IT'S LATE AT NIGHT I WILL PAY A HIGHER PRICE AND RIGHTFULLY SO, RIGHT. IF THERE ARE OPERATORS WORKING AFTER 6 P.M. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHARGE MORE VERSUS SOMEONE WHO IS WORKING 8 TO 5. I JUST THINK IT'S IT'S A COMMON SENSE RIGHT? I MEAN WE PAY SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL TO OUR OUR EMPLOYEES. >> WHY WOULDN'T WE SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES DO THAT AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION RATHER THAN JUST SAYING THERE IS A DISCRIMINATION. YEAH, THERE IS A DISCRIMINATION THAT COULD END UP HAPPENING BUT WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF MODEL THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE VERY NOT PUTTING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER OWENS THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO PARK JUST VERY BRIEFLY ON THIS. I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU'VE OFFERED WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF THE UNIVERSAL UPFRONT PRICING. I DO TRAVEL A LOT AND WHILE THIS IS COMPLETELY UNSIGNED TRAFFIC I DO SHARE COUNCILMEMBER ASMIR HIS THOUGHTS WITH RESPECT TO A THOUGHTFUL APPROACH THAT KEEPS THESE FOLKS IN BUSINESS. I WAS MOST RECENTLY IN DC AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE TAXI DRIVER BECAUSE HE YOU KNOW, HAD QUOTED ME A FAIR AND YOU KNOW, DIDN'T USE THE METER AND THERE'S JUST THERE'S A REQUEST FOR FLEXIBILITY THERE THAT I AM VERY SYMPATHETIC TO. I FEEL AS THOUGH THE STATE HAS MADE A DECISION WITH RESPECT TO THE THINGS THAT WE CAN REGULATE AND IF WE CONTINUE TO REGULATE THEM IN A MANNER THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH COMMERCE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE TAXIS. SO I JUST I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS UPFRONT PRICING MODEL. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO TO RECONSIDER PERHAPS THAT ELEMENT AS WELL AS TO EXPECT EXPEDITE THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ON THE FLAT RATE PRICING FROM THE AIRPORT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR YEAH, I JUST BRIEFLY WANTED TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER OWENS AND AS MAYOR JESSICA SECONDED THAT I THINK THAT IS IMPERATIVE FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. >> SO I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND WILL BE THOUGHTFUL SOME OF THAT FLAT RATE PRICING SO THAT THEY COMPETE AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE UBER AND LYFT OF THE WORLD. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER THAT I HAD IF ANYONE ELSE HERE AND I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN THE ROOM. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY MUCH ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. SO I JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE I MEAN THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND BRING JOBS. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND COUNCIL. THANKS FOR YOUR QUESTION. SO TEAM, WE'RE GOING TO CALL A DIFFERENT PLAY AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CALL OUR AUDIBLE AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY MANAGER REPORT DOWNSTAIRS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE STALE AWARDS. AND REMEMBER WE STILL HAVE TO CLOSE SESSION ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO DO UP HERE. SO OKAY SO I'M GOING TO CALL ATTENTION NOW. >> NO, NO, NO. WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO STELLAR AWARDS NOW TWO CLOSE SESSIONS UP HERE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED DOWNSTAIRS. >> OKAY, MR. BAG WELL, NO PRESSURE. YEAH, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS UPDATE EFFICIENT. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. MAYOR PRO TEM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DO I NEED TO FORWARD THIS OR IS THERE SOMETHING UNIQUE OR THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY TO GIVE COUNCIL AN UPDATE ON AN EXCITING EVENT COMING TO CHARLOTTE AND THAT IS THE STELLAR GOSPEL MUSIC AWARDS WILL BE HERE IN AUGUST THIS YEAR AND THIS IS REALLY A STRATEGIC EVENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S SO MUCH ENTHUSIASM IN CHARLOTTE ABOUT THIS. I KNOW THIS FROM ALL THE ASKS THAT I GET ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH STELLAR AWARDS. IT'S GOING TO DRIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND VISITATION INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND WILL CERTAINLY BRING A LOT OF RECOGNITION TO CHARLOTTE THROUGH THE LARGE VIEWERSHIP THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE STELLAR AWARDS THEMSELVES. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENT. FIRST OF ALL, STELLAR AWARDS IS THE PINNACLE CELEBRATION OF GOSPEL AND INSPIRATIONAL MUSIC HONORING ARTISTS, PRODUCERS AND INFLUENCERS THAT MOVE AUDIENCES SPIRITUALLY AND CULTURALLY. AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT ARE PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT'S COMING TO CHARLOTTE. STELLAR AWARDS HAS BEEN PRODUCED FOR OVER FOUR FOUR DECADES. THIS WILL BE THE 41ST YEAR IT'S TIME IN CHARLOTTE BROADCAST TO 3.6 MILLION PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IT'S THE NUMBER ONE GOSPEL MUSIC FRANCHISE IN IT THAT BROADCAST COVERAGE COVERS 90% OF THE UNITED STATES. SO DEEP PENETRATING COVERAGE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THERE. DON JACKSON FOUNDED CENTER CITY PRODUCTIONS IN 1970 AND THEN LATER STELLAR AWARDS WAS FOUNDED IN 1984 TO HONOR THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF GOSPEL MUSIC PERFORMERS AND CENTER CITY PRODUCTIONS IS LOCATED IN CHICAGO. DON CONTINUES TO RUN AND LEAD THIS ORGANIZATION TODAY AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS AND WE ARE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE DON JACKSON CEO AND CHAIRMAN OF CENTER CITY PRODUCTIONS AND JENNIFER JACKSON CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTIONS I'M SO SORRY. >> CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTIONS AND JENNIFER JACKSON WHO IS CEO AND PRESIDENT OF CENTRAL CITY AS WELL. >> WE ARE SO PLEASED TO HAVE THEM WITH US TODAY. >> THEY THEY GET A GOLD STAR FOR MAKING IT THROUGH THIS MEETING AND ALL SAID THEY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT A LOT ABOUT CHARLOTTE. >> SO THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE AND FOR BEING GREAT PARTNERS AS WE GO DOWN THIS ENDEAVOR. ALSO CHARLOTTE IS AMONG ELITE CITIES THAT HAVE HOSTED STELLAR AWARDS. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EVENT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY. SO REALLY PROUD TO HAVE THIS COMING TO THE QUEEN CITY. OKAY. SO A LOT OF IMPACTS THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO RECEIVE IN CHARLOTTE FOR HOSTING SO STELLAR AWARDS. FIRST OF ALL, AGAIN YOU MENTIONED THE 3.6 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS THAT IS BROADCAST TO ACROSS SEVERAL DIFFERENT NETWORKS INCLUDING B.E.T. BOUNCE THE STELLAR NETWORK THEMSELVES WHICH IS CABLE AND STREAMING AND THEN THERE WILL BE A LOT OF COVERAGE THROUGH NATIONAL SYNDICATION AS WELL THAT WILL BE DONE AT A LOCAL LEVEL. CHARLOTTE OF COURSE GOING TO BE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE WITH THIS BROADCAST. OUR SKYLINE IS GOING TO BE FEATURED LOTS OF MENTIONS ABOUT CHARLOTTE BEING THE HOME TO STILL AWARDS THIS YEAR OF COURSE DRIVING ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE EXPECT 5000 FOLKS TO VISIT FROM OUT OF TOWN TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ACTIVITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH STILL AWARDS AND OF COURSE A POWERFUL SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE AS WELL. OVER 16 MILLION SOCIAL MEDIA IMPRESSIONS WILL BE GENERATED FROM HOSTING STELLAR AWARDS AND 8.5 MILLION VIDEO VIEWS THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS THAT'S MANAGED BY CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTIONS. >> SO A FULL SCHEDULE FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK. THIS IS NOT JUST THE AWARDS THEMSELVES. THERE'S A FULL WEEK OF ACTIVITIES THAT RUNS FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY ASSOCIATED WITH THESE EVENTS ON I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS VERY QUICKLY. ON WEDNESDAY THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY EVENT FOCUSED AT SCHOOL AGE KIDS THAT WILL FEATURE A GOSPEL MUSIC ARTIST. SO OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY THERE. >> THURSDAY THERE WILL BE THE UNPLUGGED THE EVENT CONCERT. THIS IS A CONCERT FEATURING FEATURING SECULAR MUSIC ARTISTS WITH GOSPEL BACKGROUNDS AND THEN WE MOVE INTO THE BIG TICKET ITEMS FRIDAY THE PRE-SHOW THE PRE-SHOW IS AN AWARDS PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO STELLAR BUT NOT BROADCAST IN THE SAME WAY ALL THE NOMINEES WILL BE THERE. >> THERE WILL BE AWARDS FOR ARTISTS RADIO NOMINEES. THERE'LL BE TEN PERFORMANCE IS AS WELL THAT TAKE PLACE AT THAT PRE-SHOW EVENT AND IT WILL BE BROADCAST ON THE TRINITY BROADCAST NETWORK BETTER KNOWN AS TBN. >> THIS WILL BE THE TOUGHEST, TOUGHEST TICKET FOR THE WEEK. IT'S A VERY POPULAR EVENT. IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE CAROLINA THEATER WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER OBVIOUSLY THAN SPECTRUM CENTER. SO THIS WILL BE A VERY POPULAR EVENT. AND THEN WE MOVE INTO THE BIG EVENT ITSELF ON SATURDAY THE STELLAR AWARDS WILL KICK OFF AT SPECTRUM CENTER. THIS IS GOING TO START WITH THE SORT OF GLAMOROUS RED CARPET INTRODUCTION TO THE EVENT. IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE OSCARS IN THE EMMYS YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME FEEL FOR THIS EVENT, THIS RED CARPET AFFAIR WHERE WILL YOU HAVE OVER 200 MEDIA IN ATTENDANCE INTERVIEWING THE NOMINEES SPONSORS, PERFORMERS AND GUESTS? THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE PRIMARY PR DRIVERS FOR THE EVENT WILL BE THE RED CARPET EVENT PRECEDING THE AWARDS THEMSELVES . THIS WILL ALSO FLOW INTO A SPONSOR AND MEDIA RECEPTION THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT 5 P.M. THAT DAY AND THEN WE'LL MOVE IN AT 7 P.M. TO THE EVENT ITSELF. >> THE SILVER AWARDS WERE HONOR EXCELLENCE ACROSS 28 DIFFERENT AWARD CATEGORIES THE INCLUDING THE BIG AWARDS ARTIST OF THE YEAR SONG OF THE YEAR AND ALBUM OF THE YEAR AND THESE ARE WILL FEATURE THE BIGGEST NAMES IN GOSPEL MUSIC. THEY'LL BE GIVING POWERFUL LIVE PERFORMANCES THAT SPAN TRADITIONAL CONTEMPORARY AND URBAN GOSPEL STYLES. SO DEFINITELY A REALLY EXCITING EVENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY THAT WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT IN THE AFTER PARTY WHAT A LOT OF THE NOMINEES WILL BE AT THAT AS WELL ALONG WITH SPECIAL GUESTS THAT WILL ALSO BE AT SPECTRUM CENTER. SO THIS IS DEFINITELY THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE ACTIVITY. EVERYTHING BUILDS AND CULMINATES WITH THE STELLAR AWARDS THEMSELVES SO JUST WANTED TO MY FINAL UPDATE WILL JUST BE WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR AND WHAT'S WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT. WE'VE GOT THE MAJOR EVENT FUND AT THE STATE LEVEL HAS BEEN CONFIRMED CONFIRMED TO PROVIDE UP TO $995,000 TO SUPPORT THE OPERATING EXPENSES FOR STELLAR AWARDS SPECTRUM CENTER HAS BEEN CONTRACTED. THE HORNETS HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS ON THIS TO CRAFT A PACKAGE THAT'S CUSTOMIZED TO THE NEEDS OF CENTRAL CITY AND STELLAR AWARDS. WE'RE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR PARTNERSHIP ROOM BLOCK AGREEMENTS. TALK TO JENNIFER LAST NIGHT. WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE FINALIZED THIS WEEK AND WE WILL BE WORKING WITH JENNIFER AND HER TEAM TO FINALIZE THE VENUES CAROLINA THEATER VERY CLOSE TO CONTRACTING THEIR ALSO SEVERAL OTHER ANCILLARY VENUES THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE PRODUCTION OF THE EVENT AND THEN OUTREACH TO THE FAITH COMMUNITY CORPORATE CONNECTIONS THE CRV WILL BE SUPPORTING SILVER AWARDS IN THAT REGARD AND PROBABLY REACHING OUT TO MEMBERS IN THIS ROOM TO HELP ESTABLISH THOSE CONNECTIONS AND FIND WAYS TO SUPPORT THIS GREAT EVENT FOR CHARLOTTE. SO AND WE'LL OF COURSE BE PROVIDING LOGISTICAL SUPPORT AND TRANSPORTATION WELCOMING GUESTS ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE TYPICALLY DO AT THE CRB. SO A QUICK BUT HOPEFULLY VERY INTERESTING UPDATE. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVENT COMING TO CHARLOTTE AND BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. STEVE THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE MAYFIELD ANDERSON AND ASH MIA ON DECK CASIMIR MAYFIELD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM MR. BAGWELL THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE MONTHS THAT IN THREE MONTHS THIS IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND I NOTICED YOU HAD A NUMBER OF PREVIOUS HOST CITIES. >> DO YOU MANAGERS KNOW WHAT THE LEAD TIME ON THE PREVIOUS WHOLE CITIES WERE LIKE? BECAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING HISTORICALLY WE'RE LIKE A YEAR TWO YEARS OUT WHEN WE'RE PLANNING A MAJOR EVENT TO HELP ENSURE THAT WHOEVER THE ORGANIZATION IS HAS THE TIME TO DO THE FUNDRAISING THEY NEED TO DO AND ALL OF THAT. >> SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE LEAD TIME FOR THE PREVIOUS WHOLE CITIES WERE? >> I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS ON THAT. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH JENNIFER. THEY'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PACE OF PLANNING. I BELIEVE THEY'VE CHARACTERIZED IT AS TYPICAL ON WHAT THEY EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY ARRIVE AT A NEW CITY. BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD CONCERNS ON THAT FRONT AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AND MOVE URGENTLY WITH IN PARTNERSHIP WITH STELLA TO GET THEM THE CONNECTIONS AND GET THE PLANNING GOING ON THAT FRONT. I CERTAINLY HEARD THOSE CONCERNS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDRESSING THAT URGENTLY. >> SO HISTORICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CRB, WHAT IS OUR LEAD TIME BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE WE ARE HOSTED IN A NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AGAIN THAT TOOK 2029 WE IN 26 SO HISTORICALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE AGAIN TWO PLUS YEARS OUT FOR PLANNING SO WAS GENERALLY OUR LEAD TIME WHEN WE'RE SEEKING TO SUBMIT FOR BE IT IN ORDER TO GIVEN THE LEEWAY BECAUSE ALSO THIS RUNS RIGHT UP ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TARGET BUT I SAW THAT GROUND KICKS OFF AT THAT SAME TIME SO WE HAVE THAT THAT BE GOING ON AT BOJANGLES AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP WHERE WE'RE CREATING A NEW PRECEDENT WHERE ANOTHER EVENT LATER ON MAY PRESENT WHAT THEY IDENTIFY AS OPPORTUNITY AND THEN WE TELL THEM WELL THE CITY'S PROCESS USUALLY IS A YEAR OR 2 OR 3 YEARS OUT AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAY WELL IN ACTUALITY YOU DID THIS IN A SIX MONTH PERIOD. SO WHAT I USUALLY TIME WHEN WE'RE SEEKING TO SHOW OFF THE BEAUTY OF OUR CITY YEAH, I THINK THE LEAD TIME VARIES IN THE EVENTS THAT WE WORK WITH. CERTAINLY YOU HAVE LEAGUE OF CITIES SEE UP THE WAY THAT TRADITIONALLY HAVE VERY LONG LEAD TIMES. I THINK THE PLANNING IS PROBABLY ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL AS FAR AS COMPLEXITY AND THE THE PROCESSES AND SUPPORT THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER. THIS ONE HAS COME TOGETHER PROBABLY QUICKER THAN NORMAL FOR AN EVENT LIKE THIS. BUT AGAIN WE'RE STAYING IN CLOSE CONTACT ABOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS AND FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT I'M ALSO HEARING, YOU KNOW, THE URGENCY THAT YOU'VE EXPRESSED TO ME AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING PROCESSES AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND WE'RE LISTENING TO THAT AND RESPONDING. >> SO I HAVE NOT SHARE THAT AS AN URGENCY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IN A IS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT WE NORMALLY DO BECAUSE ALSO WHAT I DID NOT SEE IN THERE IF THERE IS AN ASK FOR THE CITY SO AND HISTORICALLY WE'RE A PARTNER WE DON'T LEAD. BUT I THINK EVEN WHEN WE HOSTED THE ACP IMAGE AWARDS THEY HAD ALREADY IDENTIFIED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF FUNDING OUTSIDE CORPORATE FUNDING ON THEIR OWN JUST THEY PUT IN A LITTLE BIT CITY, PUT IN A LITTLE BIT, THE COUNTY PUT IN A LITTLE BIT SO WITHOUT I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE IN APRIL WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IN AUGUST WE DON'T KNOW OUTSIDE OF THE STATE CONTRIBUTING WHAT THE TOTAL COST WHAT THE ASK IF ANY FROM THE CITY IS GOING TO BE AND HOW SOON IS THAT GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO US WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT APRIL THE 13TH AS OF TODAY AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING TO START AUGUST 15TH THE 13TH TO THE 17TH. SO IF THERE'S AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT ASK IS GOING TO BE, IF THERE'S ANY UPDATES OF WHAT FUNDING THEY'VE IDENTIFIED, THE CORPORATE RELATIONSHIPS, IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT JUST SO THAT WE CAN STAY CONSISTENT FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> WILL MAKE SURE AND KEEP UPDATES ON THAT FLOWING. >> THANK YOU. SO REMEMBER ANDERSON THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. AND EXCITED ABOUT THE STELLAR AWARDS COMING TO THE QUEEN CITY. WELCOME TO THE QUEEN CITY AND SOME REALLY SPECTACULAR SPACES IN THE SPECTRUM CENTER AND CAROLINA THEATER WHICH BOTH HAPPEN TO BE IN DISTRICT ONE. SO I'M HERE FOR YOU SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW MY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS EVENT. I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MAYFIELD IT FELT SUPER FAST. IT'S IT'S IT FELT LIKE THIS SORT OF CAME OUT OF NOWHERE WHICH IS WONDERFUL WONDERFUL TO HAVE THIS EVENT. BUT I JUST HAVE A PROCESS QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN WE RECEIVED SOME DOCUMENTATION MAYBE ABOUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK MAYBE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO IN OUR PACKETS THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION THAT THAT STATED THAT THERE WOULD BE A FINANCIAL ASK FROM BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND AT MY QUESTION AT THAT TIME AND I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS AS WELL IT SEEMS LIKE OUR PROCESSES ARE INVERTED. YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A FINANCIAL ASK ASSOCIATED WITH AN EVENT THAT OF COURSE WILL DRIVE TOURISM AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CHECK THE BOXES FOR ,IT FEELS LIKE THAT THAT VOTE AND THAT ASK SHOULD BE DONE AHEAD OF THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THE PRESS CONFERENCES ETC. SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS INVERTED WHEN WHEN I RECEIVED THE COMMUNICATION. CAN CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? >> MR. BAGWELL YEAH. SO WE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE STATE SUPPORT WE HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUND CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CRV BUT YOU KNOW IN THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EVENT I AM AWARE OF OF THAT ITEM THAT'S OUT THERE THE SYLVIA IS IS NOT LEADING THIS CONVERSATION REGARDING CITY SUPPORT AND WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE LEVERS THAT WE PUT IN PLAY TO SUPPORT THE EVENT FINANCIALLY. >> OKAY. SO JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, JASON, IS IS THERE A NEED FOR FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE CITY IN ORDER FOR THIS EVENT TO BE SUCCESSFUL ? WELL, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER THAT PROVIDED THE SUFFICIENT SUPPORT WITH STATE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. >> THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE SURVEY HAS WORKED ON THAT THAT I'M JUST NOT LEADING. I'M PROBABLY NOT BEST POSITIONED TO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER ASMIR THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BAGWELL. AND ALSO THANK YOU MR. GRAHAM FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN BRINGING THIS STELLAR AWARDS TO THE QUEEN CITY AND I AND WELCOME TO THE QUEEN CITY IS SO THIS IS NEW TO ME IS THERE A FINANCIAL ASK FROM US? I'M NOT AWARE OF A FINANCIAL TASK FROM THE CITY THAT IS SEPARATE FROM CRV. MR. JONES IT COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? IS THERE A FINANCIAL ASK THAT WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF US? >> I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A FINANCIAL ASSET WITH THE MAGNITUDE IS I DON'T KNOW. IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER SPONSORSHIPS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD IN THE PAST. SO I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY THAT NUMBER WOULD BE. GOT IT. SO OKAY, SO IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAVE HOSTED LARGE EVENTS, THERE HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN A FINANCIAL ASK FOR AN EXAMPLE GOLF CHAMPIONSHIP RIGHT. >> BUT THAT HAS ALL COME FROM THE TOURISM MARKET. SO I'M ASSUMING THIS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT. OH, IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE START TALKING ABOUT THE TOURISM BUCKET THAT WHEN WE START TO THINK ABOUT HEADS AND BEDS AND WHAT WOULD AN EVENT BRING TO THE CITY RIGHT. AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT TOURISM AND SOMETIMES THERE HAVE BEEN GENERAL FUND CARVE OUTS FOR SPONSORSHIPS ALSO THERE HAS BEEN GENERAL FUND CARVE OUTS. >> I'M NOT SURE THAT WE DIDN'T DO THE IN A OUT OF TOURISM. I'M NOT SURE IF WE DID THAT TOURISM OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. >> YEAH BECAUSE OKAY SO NOW WELL FIRST LET ME THANK MR. BAGWELL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THE CRV SIDE OF THINGS. I APPRECIATE YOU KEEP OUR YOU KEEPING THINGS MOVING BECAUSE THE DEADLINE IS COMING UP FAST . BUT I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL ASK, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE IS I ASK THEN WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT NOW, NOT LATER. >> AND IF IF THERE IS A GENERAL FUND ASK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY SO I'M GETTING CONCERNED NOW I HAVE NOT KNOWING WHAT THE ASK WILL BE AND NOT KNOWING WHAT SOURCE OF FUNDING BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR GENERAL FUND BUCKETS. SO I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH TOUCHING THE GENERAL FUND BUCKET WHEN WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY ON PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SO WE NEED TO BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDING. I WOULDN'T BE OKAY WITH GENERAL FUND LET ME JUST SAY THAT OUT VERY CLEARLY NOW. SO IF THERE IS AN ASK FROM GENERAL FUND I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR ME. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER GRANT THE MAYOR PRO TEM MADAM MAYOR, I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AND IT'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I BROUGHT TO THE CITY. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU BOOKED AND SOURCE FOR THE CITY. THE MAYOR ASKED ME IN 2024 TO FOLLOW UP ON A LETTER THAT SHE RECEIVED FROM CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTION AND SO WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT AND COMMUNICATION WITH THEM SINCE 2024. THEY CAME TO TOWN WHEN THE SPECTRUM CENTER WAS UNDER RENOVATION AND THEY TOOK A LOOK AT BOTH BOJANGLES AND OFFICE AUDITORIUM FOR THE 25 PRODUCTION THAT WAS NOT SUITABLE FOR THEIR NEEDS AND SO THEY THEY POLITELY DECLINED COMING TO THE CITY. THEY CAME BACK IN 25 AFTER THE RENOVATION WERE COMPLETED AT SPECTRUM CENTER AND THE CAROLINA THEATER WAS NOW OPEN. THEY VISITED THE COMMUNITY ONCE AGAIN. THEY TOURED THE ARENA. THEY TOWARD THE CAROLINA THEATER. THEY FELL IN LOVE WITH THE INVESTMENT THAT WE MADE IN BOTH FACILITIES TO LOWER TRAVEL AND TOURISM TO OUR CITY. IT IS A NATIONAL PRODUCTION AND SO THEY ARE BRINGING TO THE CITY NATIONAL SPONSORS AS WELL AND SO THEY DON'T THEY WON'T BE SOURCING AND IDENTIFY LOCAL CORPORATE SUPPORT. THAT PROCESS HAS ALREADY STARTED AND THEY'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING SO. THERE WILL BE AN X AND I SPOKE WITH THE MANAGER ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ABOUT AND KEEP HIM AND THE MAYOR UPDATED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY IN REFERENCE TO WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR THE STATE FUNDING WHEN THEY RECEIVED THE STATE FUNDING AND THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY THIS WOULD BE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. >> AND SO AS THE ACP AND OTHER CONVENTIONS THAT HAVE COME TO OUR TOWN SEEKING FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, I DON'T SEE THIS BEING ANY DIFFERENT AS WELL. AND SO IN TERMS OF THE THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IT IS NOT LIKE A NATIONAL CONVENTION. IT'S A MUSICAL PRODUCTION SIMILAR TO WHEN A CONCERT COMES TO TOWN RIGHT? THEY BOOK THE FACILITY. THERE'S A RUNWAY FOR THE PRODUCTION TO BE EXECUTED. THEY EXECUTE THE PRODUCTION AND SO THEY DON'T NEED AND I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM IF THEY DO NEED A TWO YEAR RUNWAY OR A YEAR RUNWAY TO PRODUCE THE EVENT. RIGHT. IS HAVING A CONCERT AT THE SPECTRUM CENTER OR HAVING A CONCERT AT CAROLINA THEATER AND SO THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF OUR INVESTMENT IN THOSE DOLLARS. AGAIN, THOSE DECISIONS WILL BE MADE BY THE MANAGEMENT AND THE MANAGEMENT TEAM BASED ON OUR INPUT AS WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE. AND SO I THINK THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE COMING FORTH WITH AS WE GO INTO OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER JD THANK YOU STEVE FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GRAHAM FOR THE CONTEXT. FOR ME IT'S MORE PURELY OUT OF CURIOSITY BECAUSE I'M A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. WHAT DOES THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE WHEN A ORGANIZATION SELECTS US AS A CITY AND THERE IS A PHONE FINANCIAL ASK ATTACHED TO IT RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO KNOW KIND OF LIKE THE PROCEDURAL STEPS BECAUSE AM I RIGHT TO SAY THAT THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST MUSIC CENTERED EVENT THAT THE CITY WOULD POTENTIALLY FINANCIALLY SUPPORT? I'M NOT SURE OF THAT. SURE. YEAH. AND WHAT WOULD BE MY SCHEDULE? SO OVER THE YEARS WE'VE HAD A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE PUT INTO SHOUT SHOW. >> YES. THAT HAS MUSICAL PRODUCTION INTO IT. >> YES WE HAVE BUT AGAIN IT'S THE JUST THE PROGRAMMATIC ASPECT IS MUSICAL BUT IT'S AN EVENT FOR THE CITY THAT HAPPENS TO BE A MUSICAL EVENT. SO IT COULD BE THE AND OR AP CONVENTION OR IT COULD BE THE STELLAR AWARDS OR I COULD BE THE CWA WHICH IS BASKETBALL AND AND ETC. RIGHT? THE JOHN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS MUSIC SPECIFIC GOTCHA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S A MEMO OR SOMETHING IN TERMS OF LIKE PROCEDURES WHEN WHEN ORGANIZATIONS CHOOSE US AS A CITY AND LIKE WHAT THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE I THINK MYSELF AND I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SPEAKING FOR MY OTHER TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL AS THERE IS A MENTIONING OF OF IT COUNCIL MEMBER GRAHAM YOU SAID A YEAR AND A HALF AGO THE CONVERSATIONS WITH HAD WITH MAYOR THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER KNOW WHAT I SAID WAS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY SINCE 2024 WHEN THERE WAS A MOUSE STONE DECISION TO BE MADE BOTH THE MANAGER OFFICE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WERE INFORMED. >> GOTCHA. >> GOTCHA. OKAY WELL THANK YOU. I AM PURELY OUT OF CURIOSITY AND WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BETTER. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER WHAT LETTER? >> THANK YOU SIR. I'M GOING TO JUST DOUBLE DOWN ON A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR TO YOU FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT MILESTONE OR MILESTONE DECISIONS, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO DATE AS IT RELATES TO THE KEY MILESTONES THAT WE THE CITY WAS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN VERSUS WHAT CRB MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN? >> NONE RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THEY CRV A BOOKING OF THE EVENT. THE INITIAL INQUIRY FROM THE CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTION CAME INTO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THE MAYOR HANDED OFF TO ME AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOLLOW UP WITH THIS TO SEE WHERE IT GOES . IT WENT TO AN INITIAL VISIT FROM THE CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTION IN 2024 WHO LOOKED AT OUR OLDER FACILITIES. THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THEM. THEY SAID NO, THEY CAME BACK IN 25, WENT OFF THE SPECTRUM CENTER WAS BACK ON LINE AND THE CAROLINA THEATER WAS OPEN AND THEY SAID WE LIKE WHAT WE SEE. A MILESTONE STEP WAS WHEN STEVE INFORMED ME THAT HEY, THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR THE STATE FUNDING RIGHT? I INFORMED THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR STATE FUNDING WHEN THEY RECEIVE STATE FUNDING AND THEY GOT IT THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS. >> I LOOKED AT A TEXT, I TEXTED THE MANAGER ON CHRISTMAS DAY THANKING HIM FOR THE RUM CAKE THAT IS MY FAKE AND SAY OH BY THE OH BY THE WAY THEY GOT THE STATE FUNDING ALMOST $950,000 AND JANUARY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE COMING TO THE CITY TO MAKE A DECISION AT A MILESTONE POINT I INFORMED THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGER THAT THEY WERE COMING AND MR. MITCHELL AT THAT POINT BECAUSE HE WAS TELLING THE NEW CHAIRMAN THAT THIS AD COMMITTEE THAT THEY HAD MADE A DECISION THAT THEY WANT TO EMBRACE CHARLOTTE AND THEY'RE COMING TO THE TO THE CITY. SO THOSE MILESTONE DECISIONS IN TERMS OF STEPS ALONG HIS PROCESS, THERE WAS NOTHING FOR THE CITY TO DO OTHER THAN ME AS THE CHAIRMAN THAT NOW FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IS TO FOSTER THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. WELL, STEVE AND MR. BAGWELL TOOK THE BUSINESS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S HELPFUL CONTEXT. SO IN TERMS OF BOOK IN THE BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY WE TALK ABOUT BOOK IN THE BUSINESS YOU'RE SOURCING HOTEL GOODS, YOU'RE HELPING TO SECURE THE VENUE THEY ALL THOSE THINGS ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COST MONEY TO PUT DEPOSITS DOWN AND THAT MONEY THAT WAS PAID FROM THE STATE FUNDING OR WHATEVER OTHER PRIVATE FUNDING WAS PAID SO SO JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATE MONEY THIS WOULD BE A REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES TO SUPPORT THE EVENT THAT TAKE PLACE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA. WHAT WE GOT APPROVAL FOR WAS FOR STILL AWARDS TO BE OR CENTRAL CITY TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE FOR THAT SPENDING IN THE STATE UP TO THAT AMOUNT. >> OKAY. AND I THINK MY COUNCILMEMBER COLLEAGUE HAD A QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT IS THE THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS OF CITY CENTRAL CITY PRODUCTIONS IS A NONPROFIT IS IT A FOR PROFIT? IT'S A FOR PROFIT. OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. AND THEN ON THAT THEY'RE RUNNING THE WARDS. >> OKAY. SO IT'S THE NONPROFIT ARM THAT THE AWARD SHOW IS BEING RUN THROUGH. >> GOT IT. >> OKAY. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE I WOULD ASSUME YOU'VE SEEN THE PRO FORMA FOR THE WHOLE EVENT OR YOU'RE JUST WAITING ON TO ASK WE'VE SEEN WE'VE SEEN THE ACTIVITY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT. YES. >> THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE I'M WANTING TO UNDER TWO QUESTIONS. IT'S A FIRST OF ALL HOW MUCH MONEY IS WHAT IS THE REQUEST AT THIS POINT FOUR MONTHS OUT I WOULD THINK THAT ROOMS HAVE BEEN BOOKED BY ATTENDEES. THE TALENT HAS BEEN BOOKED. THERE'S SOME SORT OF EXTERNAL PROMOTION THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON SO THE EVENT IS BAKED, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY SUPPORTS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT A MAKE OR BREAK OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS EVENT HAPPENS. >> IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. WELL THE CRB WAS CONTRIBUTION TO THE ORGANIZING THE EVENT WAS TO GET THE STATE FUNDING IN PLACE. WE ALSO HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT GRANT THAT THE CRV IS PROVIDING TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS FOR SILVER AWARDS. SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE'RE LEADING TO SUPPORT THE EVENT FINANCIALLY AND SO THAT'S CRB WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY INVESTMENT TO RIGHT SO IS THIS I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF IS THIS GAP FINANCING OR BUT FOR THE CITY INVESTMENT IS THIS EVENT STILL GOING TO GO ON? YES. YES. OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> SO GIVEN THAT THEN I DON'T HAVE TO ASK ABOUT CONTINGENCY BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PLAN IS ALREADY THERE. SO DISCUSSION IS WHAT DO WE AS THE CITY WANT TO CONTRIBUTE? WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT WHICH LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION THEN IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THE DOLLAR IS I'D BE INTERESTED YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THIS RIGHT NOW. I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF WHAT MEANINGFUL SUPPORT LOOKS LIKE. IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY EVEN BE CASH AT THIS POINT. IT MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE AND I FEEL LIKE THAT CONVERSATION STILL NEEDS TO BE HAD BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE THROWING MONEY AT FOLKS IF THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT THE NEED IS. IF THE NEED IS MORE SO SOMETHING ELSE HOW DO WE AMPLIFY IT? HOW DO WE CREATE ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIP? HOW DO WE HELP EXPAND THE EVENING OR DO WHATEVER IT IS IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT CONVERSATION STILL NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND I THINK MY THAT CORRECTLY. >> I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM BEING SUCCESSFUL IN CHARLOTTE BEING A FINANCIAL PARTNER WILL BE ONE OF THEM, RIGHT FOR SURE. RIGHT. AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE A FINANCIAL PARTNER AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH THE MANAGER THAT WE PROBABLY WON'T RESOLVE TODAY. >> YEAH AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. >> I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THOSE DOLLARS WOULD BE DRIVING THAT WOULD MAKE THE EVENT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS TODAY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AS MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. BASED ON MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICY ON ASK WHEN WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR EVENTS LIKE THIS RIGHT. WE HAVE A TOURISM FUND FOR A REASON. >> SO WHEN WE ARE BRINGING TOURISM ACTIVITY OUT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TOURISM FUND TO BRING MORE TOURISM DOLLARS. >> SO I KNOW THAT TOURISM DOLLAR LOOKS AT NUMBER OF BEDS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND ALL OF THAT BUT THAT GIVES SOME SORT OF CERTAINTY TO EVENT HOST AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY THAT I'M AWARE OF. MR. MITCHELL SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON SO THAT WE ARE APPLYING THE SAME STANDARDS FOR ALL MAJOR EVENTS THAT COME TO OUR CITY AND I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT A QUESTION BUT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WATLINGTON DID A GREAT JOB BECAUSE USUALLY WE ASK WHAT IF FOR ANY INCENTIVES ? BUT THE ANSWER IS PRETTY CLEAR IN THIS CASE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY CHOSEN THE QUEEN CITY. HOW CAN WE BE A PARTNER USING OUR TOURISM BOOK AND R V WHO'S BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WHO HELPS US BRING GREAT EVENTS TO OUR CITY? HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE QUEEN CITY? SO I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO HELP SUPPORT THEM AS WELL AS I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER ASKED THAT HAVE COME OUR WAY AND THAT I HAVE SENT YOUR WAY AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE DONE TO SUPPORT NOT JUST LARGE BUT ALSO MIDSIZE AS WELL AS SMALLER EVENTS THAT COME TO OUR CITY THAT BRINGS TOURISM. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MAYFAIR. >> THANK YOU. MY TOWN MANAGER GILES, I HOPE YOU'RE HEARING THAT SOME OF US ARE SAYING WE NEED ACTUAL PROCESS LAID OUT. I THINK US BEING ABLE TO HOST THE CELL AWARDS WOULD BE AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY. THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THIS TIMELINE BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED AS THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WHICH THE MAYOR HAS DONE IT WITH MULTIPLE CHAIRS, HER SCHEDULE GOES CRAZY. SHE SAID HEY, CAN YOU HAVE THIS MEETING? WE'RE SAYING THIS CONVERSATION STARTED BACK IN 2024. WE'RE GETTING A PRESENTATION AND THAT CAME ON THE HEELS OF US SAYING MEDIA RESPONSE PRESS CONFERENCES THAT WERE DONE BEFORE COUNCIL ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION AND STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO ASK IS SO HAVING AN ACTUAL PROCESS IN PLACE AND IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME TO COMPARE IT TO LIKE A CONCERT CAR TO BE WAS HERE LAST NIGHT SHE SOLD OUT SO SHE AND ASK FOR NO MONEY NO ADDITION BE ABLE TO BOW AND TONI BRAXTON WAS HERE TWO WEEKENDS AGO DIANE ASKED FOR NO MONEY THE LOVE AND LIFE CONCERT WHAT THEY ASKED FOR FROM US WAS SECURITY AND POLICE ASSISTANCE IN UPTOWN THEY DIDN'T ASK US FOR ANY MONEY. IS ACP IMAGE AWARDS ASSETS WERE MONEY WE SOUGHT OUT AND SEEK OUT. THEY SEE OUR CHAMPIONSHIP WE SOUGHT AND APPLIED AND HAD TO SHOW THAT WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY NEEDED IN ORDER TO WIN NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TO COME BACK. SO HAVING A CONSISTENCY WOULD BE HELPFUL BUT HAVE A CONVERSATION NOW TO SAY WILL MANAGER JONES YOU WERE AWARE OF THIS CONVERSATION FOR MORE THAN A YEAR AND THAT IT WAS JUST STATED THAT YOU WERE PART AND RECEIVE UPDATES WHATEVER THOSE UPDATES WERE BUT YOUR FULL COUNCIL IS GETTING THIS INFORMATION TONIGHT ON APRIL 13TH STILL WITHOUT A CLEAR ASK WHEN THIS THING IS THREE MONTHS AWAY IF IT IS A HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM THEN LET'S IDENTIFY THAT BUCKET. IF IS SOMETHING OTHER THAN THEN JUST LET IT USED TO BE ABLE TO TELL US THIS IS HOW MUCH CORPORATE DOLLARS WE'VE ALREADY RAISED. SO HERE'S THAT IS THE AS 250 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE GAVE TO THE LAST PEOPLE AND WE'RE USING A LOGICAL WHERE WE GAVE THIS ORGANIZATION THIS AMOUNT SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. LET'S CREATE A PROCESS MOVING FORWARD SO FUTURE COUNCILS DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS IF IT'S A SPECIFIC BUT FOR WHICH WE JUST SAY IT WASN'T A BUDGET FOR THEN WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT BECAUSE WE I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROCESS IS IN PLACE SO THAT ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN HAVING AN EVENT IN OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY KNOW THAT THERE IS A PROCESS AND NOT ONLY THAT OUR LEADERSHIP WAS CBA WHEN THEY GO OUT AND DO PGA AND ALL OF THAT THAT'S STILL A YEAR PLUS IN ABEYANCE BEFORE WHEN THEY COME AND SAY HERE'S WHAT WE ASK THEM FOR. SO THE CONCERN IS THAT THIS STARTED IN 2024. THEY GOT THERE FIRST. THEY RECEIVED THE ALLOCATION FROM THE STATE 2025 WE NOW IN APRIL THERE WAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE AWARE PRIOR TO US JUST SEEING A PRESS RELEASE AND OR AN ANNOUNCEMENT OR SEEING SOMETHING POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT COUNCIL WAS NOT FULLY AWARE CITY MANAGER GO RIGHT IT SO THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MAYBE THEY'LL THINK TWO THINGS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT ONE THIS IS A SEE OUR PR EVENT AND STEVE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THIS EVENT AS A PART OF THAT EVENT THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN ASK FROM CRV TO ME REGARDING ANY TYPES OF SPONSORSHIP. OKAY I THINK WAS ALSO IMPORTANT IS LET'S THINK ABOUT THE WORLD MILITARY GAMES IT'S OUT THERE AND I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THERE WASN'T AN ASK OF THE COUNCIL WITH THAT. OKAY. SO I THINK I THINK COUNCILMEMBER KASHMIR SAID IT BEST OR I'M SORRY IT MAY HAVE BEEN DR. WATLINGTON THERE WILL BE SOMETHING OF VALUE THAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL. THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT. BUT UP TO THIS POINT THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OFFICIAL ASKED OF A PARTICULAR AMOUNT FOR AN INVESTMENT IN THE MILITARY. >> GAMES WILL BE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR MONEY AND I EXPECT THEM TO BE COMPENSATED. >> SO YEAH. SO TO WHAT THE LAST SPEAKER WE HAVE IS COUNCIL MEMBER MAY MAYO JOY THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THIS PROTOCOL I'M PROCEDURE FOR THIS SO I WOULD ASSET AS A CHAIR. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DO WHEN YOU CAN PRESENT IT TO US IN A IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEN WE JUST HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE SO YOU KNOW, PEER PRESSURE. >> AS A FORMER MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER I KNOW THAT CAN BE AS A GOOD TOOL. SO I THINK HOLDING EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE FOR FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURES THAT WE COME IN WE CREATE IS ESSENTIAL. >> SO SO SORRY. >> SO CAN I REQUEST A REFERRAL TO CREATE THIS PROCEDURE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE IN A MOTION OR JOKE THAT I NEED TO BE IN THE FORM OF WAS THAT IN THE FORM OF EMOTIONAL WE'RE JUST THE MANAGER SECOND LET'S GO LET'S LET'S DO A STRICTLY BE TRANSPARENT. THERE'S A MOTION MY COUNCILMAN MALE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MAYFAIR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THE MOTION RAISE YOUR HAND OH THE MOTION IS DO A REFERRAL TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ABOUT A PROCESS TO RECRUIT A TO RECRUIT EVENTS TO SEEK FUNDING. >> I SEE A PROCESS TO RECRUIT EVENTS WE AND ONE I THINK AND FUNDING YEAH THAT'S FUN. >> YEAH I MEAN FUNDRAISER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THOSE OPPOSE OKAY HAVE IT THANK YOU FOR THE REFERRAL OKAY STAY THANK YOU. >> OKAY THANKS STEVE SO ANY NEW TEAM HERE SO WE NEED TO DO AN AUDIENCE I'M WOULD TURN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WE ABOUT TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION AND THOSE WHO ARE PART OF PROJECT A'S IF YOU STAY HERE IF YOU'RE NOT PART OF PROJECT X, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN THE DIOCESE OF CITY ATTORNEY. CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION FOR US TO GO IN CLOSED SESSION PLEASE ? YOU MAY HAVE HEARD HIM. I'LL READ THE MOTION AND A MEMBER WILL NEED TO ADOPT THE MOTION. SO THE MOTION IS TO GO INTO YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR YOU? >> YOU WANT ME TO DO FOR BOTH NOW I WAS HAPPY WITH YOUR WAY. YES. SO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND DO ALL MINE. >> YEAH. WE NEED TO I'M GOING TO READ JUST FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MATTER. >> OKAY? YES, FROM DIDN'T FREE WILL MAYOR PRO TEM THE MOTION IT'S TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO IN CG YES 140 3-3 18.1 1A4 TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATING TO THE LOCATION OR EXPANSION OF INDUSTRY FEES OR OTHER BUSINESSES IN CHARLOTTE INCLUDING AGREEMENT ON A TENTATIVE LIST OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THAT MAY BE OFFERED BY THE PUBLIC BODY IN NEGOTIATIONS. >> WE NEED THAT MOTION AS A MOTION MADE. >> IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND I'LL GO GO MOVED COMING UP, COUNCILMEMBER BILL HAS MADE A MOTION SACK ABOUT COUNCILMAN MAYFIELD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR GO TO CLOSE SAYS RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN WE CAN WE AGREE TO NOT SO SINCE YOU DON'T ALTHOUGH OR GOOD EVENING EVERYONE LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR JOINING US IN PERSON THOSE 8000 PEOPLE WHO ARE JOINING US WATCHING ONLINE FOR OUR APRIL 13TH BUSINESS MEETING. NOW LET'S BEGIN WITH INTRODUCTIONS AROUND THE DIAS STARTING WITH SUPER HORNETS FAN CITY CLUE. >> YES IT IS STEPHANIE KELLY, CITY CLERK ANDREA LESLIE WHITE CITY ATTORNEY GOOD EVENING DIMPLE AJMERA AT AT-LARGE. GOOD EVENING I'M VICTORIA WATLINGTON AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING YOU AS A MEMBER AT LARGE. COUNCILMEMBER JOY MAYO REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE DANTE ANDERSON DISTRICT ONE MARCUS JONES CITY MANAGER JAMES MITCHELL MAYOR PRO TEM KIMBERLY OWENS REPRESENTING DISTRICT SIX ED DRIGGS DISTRICT SEVEN GOOD EVENING. LUANA MAYFIELD COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE. GOOD EVENING JAMES WHAT IDEAS PROUDLY REPRESENTING THE EAST SIDE DISTRICT FIVE WE'LL BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH AN IMPLICATION EXPRESSION OR INSPIRATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THE INVOCATION IS AN INTENDED TO SOLEMNIZE PROCEEDINGS. WE CELEBRATE THE RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY OF OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING THOSE WITHOUT A RELIGIOUS FAITH. TONIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER DR. WATLINGTON WILL GIVE OUR INVOCATION. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR PRO TEM LET US PAUSE BEFORE WE BEGIN. WE GATHER TODAY AS STEWARDS OF A CITY IN MOTION A CITY GROWING FASTER IN OUR FRAMEWORK THAN OUR FRAMEWORKS WERE DESIGNED TO HANDLE AND CALLING US TOWARD SOMETHING GREATER THAN ROUTINE . SO WE ASKED TODAY FOR THE GIFT OF COURAGE NOT THE ABSENCE OF UNCERTAINTY BUT THE WILLINGNESS TO MOVE FAITHFULLY WITHIN IT TOGETHER. WE ASK FOR FRESH EYES THE GRACE TO LOOK AT FAMILIAR CHALLENGES AND REMAIN GENUINELY CURIOUS TO ASK WHY AND TO ASK IT IN A SPIRIT OF DISCOVERY RATHER THAN DISPUTE. >> AND WE ASK FOR THE WISDOM TO REMEMBER THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SENT US HERE ARE TRUSTING US TO BUILD SOMETHING WORTHY OF THEM HONORING WHAT THEY'VE BUILT AND OPEN TO WHAT'S POSSIBLE. MAY OUR WORK TODAY BE MARKED BY RIGOR AND OPENNESS BY THE KIND OF HONEST ELEVATING DISCOURSE THAT THIS MOMENT AND THIS CITY DESERVES. >> MAY WE HOLD THE COMPLEXITY WITHOUT BEING PARALYZED BY IT? AND MAY WE LEAVE THIS ROOM HAVING MOVED CHARLOTTE JUST A LITTLE CLOSER TO WHAT IT COULD BE? >> THANK YOU. >> YOU. LET US PLEASE STAND AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. I LIKE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ON WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> NO MORE EXILE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REMAIN STANDING HOUSE AND I WOULD LIKE EACH ONE OF US TO PICK UP OUR NUMBER ONE CHARLOTTE HORNETS AND IN THE SPIRIT OF CHEERING ON OUR HORNETS IN THE PLAY IN GAME THIS COUNCIL AND WE CANNOT THREE I FORGOT WHAT WAS AND I GOT IT YEAH 123 LET'S GO. ALL RIGHT WHY DON'T YOU FIND OUT WE'LL SEE. >> AND NOW WE HAVE AWARDS AND RECOGNITION AND FOR THE FIRST ONE THE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY. I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MAYO TO READ OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION COUNCIL MEMBER MALE THANK YOU. >> YES, I POINTED OUT THANK YOU. >> WHEREAS URBAN FORESTRY IS A VERY IMPORTANT MUNICIPAL RESPONSIBILITY PROVIDING COUNTLESS BENEFITS TO THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE INCLUDING ENHANCEMENTS OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND. WHEREAS TREES CAN REDUCE THE EROSION OF OUR PRECIOUS TOPSOIL BY WIND IN WATER CUT HEATING AND COOLING COSTS, MODERATE TEMPERATURE COOL THE AIR PRODUCE OXYGEN AND PROVIDE WITH WILDLIFE PROVIDE FOR WILDLIFE. AND. WHEREAS TREES IN OUR CITY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR BUSINESS AREAS AND BEAUTIFY OUR COMMUNITY AND WHERE ASH TREES WHEREVER THEY ARE PLANTED ARE A SOURCE OF JOY AND SPIRITUAL RENEWAL. AND. WHEREAS CHARLOTTE HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS FOR THE 46 CONSECUTIVE YEAR 2025 AS A TREE CITY USA BY THE NATIONAL ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION AND DESIRES TO CONTINUE ITS TREE PLANTING WAYS NOW THEREFORE I WELCOME THAT THE MAYOR JOY MAYO DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FRIDAY, APRIL 24TH, 2026 AS ARBOR DAY IN CHARLOTTE AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR TREES AND WOODLANDS, SUPPORT OUR CITIES URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM AND PLANT TREES TO GLADDEN THE HEARTS AND PROMOTE THE WELL-BEING OF PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. WITNESS MY HAND IN THE EFFICIENCY OF THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE. SO THIS IS FROM THE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. DO HAVE ANYONE HERE NATIONAL DO YOU MIND COMING DOWN AND COUNCIL MEMBER MALE CAN YOU TAKE YOUR TIME COMING DOWN IS VERY SPEAKER OH MY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND ENTHUSIASM AND COUNCILMEMBER MAYO WOULD GREET YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR YES. OKAY. >> THIS NATIONAL LABOR AREA WEEK AND I'M NOW WOULD TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER TO WATLINGTON FOR THE NEXT PROCLAMATION THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM SO I'M EXCITED TO BE READING THIS PROCLAMATION BECAUSE I AM ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT COULD USUALLY BE FOUND IN THE LIBRARY RIGHT THERE. >> WE ALWAYS HAD OUR FREE TIME AND A LOT OF KIDS WOULD GO OUTSIDE AND CERTAINLY I WAS NO STRANGER TO RECESS. BUT ONE THING I LOVE TO DO IS GO INTO THE LIBRARY AND SO THIS DAY I AM A HARD COPY GIRL. I WANT TO TURN THE PAGES. I WANT A DOG HERE WANT THEM I WANT TO MARK THEM UP AND SO FROM PRACTICING THE DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM TO USING THE PROJECTOR IN THE BACK I LOVE THE LIBRARY AND THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE LIBRARY OF COURSE HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU WERE IN THE LIBRARY RECENTLY BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OFTENTIMES YOU'LL SEE FEWER BOOKS AND MORE COMPUTERS AND MORE DIGITAL LEARNING SPACES, MORE COLLABORATIVE SPACES, MORE CO-WORKING SPACES AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? I THINK THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE LIBRARY IS TO IS TO EDUCATE AND IS TO CONVENE AND PROVIDE THAT COMMUNITY SPACE AND AS LONG AS IT'S DOING THAT I THINK IT CONTINUES TO BE A VIBRANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ARE VERY BLESSED THAT OUR CHARLOTTE MECKLENBURG LIBRARY SYSTEM NOT ONLY HOUSES OUR BOOKS AND OUR DIGITAL OUR DIGITAL LIBRARY BY THE WAY, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE LIVY APP DOWNLOAD IT OKAY IT'S EXCELLENT. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THAT WITH YOUR LIBRARY CARD YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE ALL OF THE DATABASE AND THE INVENTORY ACROSS CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG LIBRARY AND SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT WAY TO EXPAND YOUR YOUR REPERTOIRE. BUT BEYOND JUST THE BOOKS AND THE MEDIA, OUR LIBRARY HAS DEMONSTRATED PARTNERSHIP THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS WHETHER IT'S THROUGH CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY HOW MANY Y'ALL KNOW HOW MANY BRANCHES OF THE LIBRARY WE HAVE NOT THESE TWO BUT THE SIX THAT'S WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA THERE ARE 21 BRANCHES OF THE LIBRARY AND HOW MANY OF YOU CAN TELL ME HOW MANY OF OUR CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY HAVE A LIBRARY? ANY TAKERS FOR FIVE? >> FIVE? WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT ALL SIX CORRIDORS OF OPPORTUNITY IS THAT SIGNIFICANT? >> BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, NOT ONLY DOES THE LIBRARY PROVIDE A PLACE TO COME AND STUDY BUT IT'S ALSO A KEY CONNECTION AND ARM INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO FROM DIGITAL EQUITY AND TECHNOLOGY TUTORING FOR ADULTS TO IMMIGRANT INNOVATION AND THE WELCOME CLEC INITIATIVE TO SUPPORTING UNHOUSED POPULATIONS AND TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THE CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG LIBRARY SYSTEM IS DOING THE WORK AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO VERSE AND VINO YOU ARE MISSING OUT. OKAY SO WITH THAT I WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION WHEREAS CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG LIBRARY SERVES AS A VIBRANT COMMUNITY HUB CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH KNOWLEDGE, TECHNOLOGY AND RESOURCES, FOSTERING CIVIL ENGAGEMENT, CRITICAL THINKING AND CULTURAL ENRICHMENT, SPARKING CREATIVITY, FUELING IMAGINATION AND INSPIRING LIFELONG LEARNING. AND. WHEREAS, THE LIBRARY PROVIDES FREE AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO BOOKS, DIGITAL TOOLS AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMING ENSURING THAT ALL INDIVIDUALS REGARDLESS OF BACKGROUND HAVE THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO LEARN, CONNECT AND THRIVE PROTECTS THE RIGHT TO READ, THINK AND EXPLORE WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP AND STANDS AS CHAMPIONS OF INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM AND FREE EXPRESSION. AND WHERE IS THE LIBRARY PARTNERS WITH SCHOOLS BUSINESSES WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO MAXIMIZE RESOURCES, INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND EXPAND ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND. WHEREAS, THE LIBRARY STRENGTHENS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, EMPOWERS JOB SEEKERS, ENTREPRENEURS AND LIFELONG LEARNERS BY PROVIDING ACCESS TO RESOURCES, TRAINING AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT SUPPORT CAREER GROWTH AND ECONOMIC SUCCESS. WHEREAS THE LIBRARY'S DEDICATED WORKERS PROVIDE WELCOMING SPACES THAT INSPIRE DISCOVERY, COLLABORATION AND CREATIVITY FOR ALL NURTURE YOUNG MINDS THROUGH STORY TIMES STEAM PROGRAMS AND LITERACY INITIATIVES FOSTER CURIOSITY AND A LOVE OF LEARNING THAT LASTS A LIFETIME WHILE OFFERING A SPACE WHERE INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES CAN FIND JOY THROUGH EXPLORATION AND DISCOVERY. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT BY ALLOWS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE RECOGNIZES APRIL 19TH THE 25TH OF 2026 AS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK IN CHARLOTTE AND ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO VISIT A CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG LIBRARY BRANCH, EXPLORE ITS RESOURCES AND CELEBRATE ALL THE WAYS THAT THE LIBRARY HELPS OUR COMMUNITY FIND JOY. AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE INTERIM CEO ANGIE MYERS AND BOARD OF TRUSTEE TRACY MONTROSE TO COME ON DOWN AND RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION. >> ANGIE I MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE BUT THEY ALREADY FIRED ME. >> THIS IS MY LAST MEETING ANYWAY SO BUT CAN YOU PLEASE OH YOU WANT TO GIVE US A PICTURE? YEAH, GO TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE, MR. CEO AND MAKE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS LIKE IT'S NOT ALREADY LIKE YOU. >> THANK YOU. YEAH. OH SHE SHE YOU KNOW. >> YEAH. THEY DOING HUGS AND GOING OUT. >> THEY DON'T WANT IT THERE. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. >> GOOD EVENING. EVENING. WELL, THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR THE RECOGNITION TONIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER WATLINGTON YOUR WORDS WERE BEAUTIFUL. WE NEED YOU TO WRITE OUR SCRIPTS FOR OUR FUTURE MEETINGS. >> THAT WAS EXCELLENT. >> REALLY. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. WE ARE YOUR CHARLOTTE MECKLENBURG LIBRARY 15 OF OUR 21 BRANCHES ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE SO WE ARE HERE TO SERVE JUST LIKE YOU ARE. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE IN OUR SERVICES AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'VE HAD TOGETHER. WE HOPE TO DO MORE OF THAT IN THE FUTURE. WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO BRAINSTORM AND BE COURAGEOUS AND THINK OF NEW AND CREATIVE WAYS TO SERVE TOGETHER SO REACH OUT ANY TIME. AND I WANT TO THANK MAYOR PRO TEM MITCHELL AS WELL FOR ATTENDING OUR INAUGURAL OUR STATE OF THE LIBRARY EVENT BACK IN JANUARY. IT'S THE FIRST ANNUAL ONE SO I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF YOU THERE THIS YEAR. AND SPEAKING OF THIS YEAR, OUR BEAUTIFUL IMPACTFUL NEW MAIN LIBRARY OF OPPORTUNITY WILL OPEN IN APRIL OF 2027 AND YOU ALL HAVE MANY, MANY CHANCES TO GET INVOLVED OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND GET EXCITED FOR THAT. >> SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT. COUNCIL WE ARE APPROACHING OUR PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF OUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND YOUR ACTION PLAN. YES, MADAM CLERK. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, SIR? >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN RODRIGUES FOR THEIR SECOND SECOND SECOND. MY COUNCIL MEMBER JD ALL THOSE IN FAVOR CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ALTHOUGH OPPOSED THANK YOU. >> NOW WE GOING TO MOVE TO THE POLICIES SECTION AND THE FIRST ITEM IS THE CITY MANAGER REPORT CITY MANAGER SO THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM OUR YOU MY TIME TO COUNCIL MEMBER MAJOR SO WE CAN HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE HOUSING TRUST FUND RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU MANAGER JONES SO FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES TEAM THAT IS MY COLLEAGUES COUNCILMEMBER RENE JOHNSON AS WELL AS COUNCILMEMBERS JOY MAYO COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLY OWENS MY COUNCILMEMBER, MY SWEATER AUDIENCE AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LISTENING TO IS OUR STAFF REPRESENTING IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT IN RESPONSE TO THE REASON RECENT HOUSING TRUST FUND REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS THIS IS THE THIRD FUNDING CYCLE FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL OF OUR INITIAL $100 MILLION HOUSING BOND AND COUNCIL'S ADOPTION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING POLICY WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 18 FOUR PROPOSALS IN THE CATEGORIES OF HOUSING PRODUCTION AND HOME OWNERSHIP INNOVATION. THE REQUESTS FOR NEW MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT EXCEEDED THE FUNDING THAT REMAINS IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND FOR THAT CATEGORY WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 11.2 MILLION STAFF. SO RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT ARE BASED ON THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE INVESTMENT PRIORITIES IN OUR FUNDING POLICY. THEY HAVE NEGOTIATED FUNDING AMOUNTS AND AFFORDABILITY TERMS TO BRING US A SLATE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IF WE APPROVED THEM WOULD DELIVER AROUND 479 RENTAL UNITS AND 200 AND 14 HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS WHILE STAYING WITHIN THE ALLOCATION GOALS SET BY OUR COUNCIL POLICY FOLLOWING TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION STAFF WILL PROVIDE DETAIL INFORMATION ON EACH APPLICATION IN OUR COUNCIL PACKETS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE ON THURSDAY AND I AM GOING TO BE REACHING OUT BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE A SPECIAL HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSALS NEXT WEEK. SO I'M GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING BECAUSE WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL TO VOTE ON THESE FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS. THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IS IDENTIFIED FOR APRIL 27TH. SO WITH THAT I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE AMAZING DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, MS. REBECCA HEFLEY THANK YOU CHAIR MAYFIELD AND GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE YOUR ALSO AMAZING HOUSING STAFF IN THE ROOM YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WARREN WOOTEN AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER MICHAEL ENGLEHART ALONG WITH QUITE A NUMBER OF YOUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WHO HAVE STUCK IT OUT WITH YOU HAD TO NIGHT WHO ARE WHO WERE WATCHING THE CLOCK AND WANT TO JUST APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU FOR FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING AND FOR THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THAT IT REQUIRES TO GET THIS INCREDIBLE WORK DONE. SO TONIGHT I AM GOING TO SHARE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT IN THE CURRENT ROUND OF THE HOUSING TRUST FUND. AS CHAIR MAYFIELD SHARED THIS IS OUR THIRD ROUND AND WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 18 PROPOSALS AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH GO THROUGH THOSE TONIGHT YOU DID RECEIVE IN YOUR COUNCIL PACKET ON APRIL 2ND A MEMO AND REPORT SUMMARIZING THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED HOUSING COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE THAT SUMMARY AND ALSO TALKED THROUGH THE PROPOSAL PROPOSAL EVALUATION PROCESS AT THEIR COMMITTEE MEETING LAST MONDAY, APRIL THE 6TH AND THERE'S SOME OF THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT THAT GIVEN THE TIME CONSTRAINTS I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY JUST IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL CONTRACT SETTING SO I CAN GET RIGHT INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> BUT I DO WANT TO INVITE ESPECIALLY ANYONE WATCHING WHO WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HOW HOUSING TRUST FUND PROCESS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING FROM APRIL SIX. >> SO YOUR HOUSING TRUST FUND AGAIN PROVIDES GAP FINANCING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE THE YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A STANDING RFP PROCESS THAT THAT WILL BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. AS A REMINDER YOU ALSO HAVE SEPARATE ROLLING RFP PROCESSES FOR RENTAL HOUSING PREVENTION PRIVÉES PRESERVATION AND LAND ACQUISITION. SO YOU DO HAVE A RENTAL HOUSING PRESERVATION ITEM ON YOUR BUSINESS AGENDA TONIGHT FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION 1001 TABLE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN MARCH. >> IMPORTANTLY FOR THE ROUND OF APPLICATIONS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY THIS WINTER RFP SCHEDULE ALIGNS WITH THE STATE'S TAX CREDIT APPLICATION DEADLINES IN MAY SO THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT DRIVES THE IT DRIVES THE SCHEDULE FOR OUR PROPOSAL AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. IT ALSO MEANS THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF TAX CREDIT APPLICATIONS IN YOUR POOL AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT TONIGHT THAT THE MULTIFAMILY LEAD DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS ARE ALL TAX CREDIT APPLICATIONS. >> THE YOUR YOUR STAFF GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE EVALUATION PROCESS LOOKING AT EACH PROJECT FOR FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY BUT ALSO LOOKING AT ALIGNMENT WITH YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING POLICY AS A REMINDER THAT POLICY SETS THREE PRIMARY GOALS AROUND ECONOMIC MOBILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD AFFORDABILITY AND RESIDENTIAL STABILITY AND YOUR POLICY INCORPORATES FIVE INVESTMENT PRIORITIES AROUND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS LOCATION PRIORITIES, RESIDENT SERVICES PARTNERSHIPS AND LEVERAGE AND INNOVATION. SO TONIGHT AS I WALK THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS I'LL BE TOUCHING ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS. >> AND THEN ON THURSDAY YOU WILL RECEIVE IN YOUR PACKET THE INFAMOUS HGF BOOKLET. THIS IS THIS IS A THIS ISN'T YOUR THURSDAY LINE. THIS IS AN OLD VERSION AND WE'RE NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH THIS ROUND BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND YOU'LL HAVE DETAILS ON EACH DEVELOPMENT IN THAT BOOKLET AND IT'LL WALK THROUGH AN EVALUATION OF EACH OF THESE INVESTMENT PRIORITIES SO THAT TWO SLIDES IN HERE THAT GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO YOUR ALLOCATION OF THE HUNDREDS MILLION DOLLAR HOUSING BOND AND THIS IS THIS IS YOU FOR FOR THE VISUAL PROCESSORS AND THEN THIS SLIDE WILL KIND OF BREAK DOWN THE MATH BY CATEGORY. >> SO OUT OF YOUR 100 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSING BOND IN YOUR HOUSING POLICY YOU HAD ALLOCATION GOALS FOR SPECIFIC CATEGORIES IN THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU WHERE YOU STAND WITH WITH THE ALLOCATIONS AND THE BALANCE SO YOUR CURRENT BALANCE IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND FROM THE 2024 BOND IS JUST OVER $44.2 MILLION. >> YOU ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF OPEN RECOMMENDATIONS AND RFP IS THAT 3.5 MILLION UNDER RENTAL HOUSING PRESERVATION IS AGAIN THE TABLE ROAD DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. >> AND THEN THERE'S ESTIMATED HOLDS FOR OPEN RFP IS FOR HOUSING REHAB AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND AN EVALUATION AND COMPONENTS OF THE BOND. THOSE HOLDS TOTAL AROUND $9.1 MILLION LEAVING YOU WITH AN PROGRAMED BALANCE OF JUST OVER $35 MILLION FOR TWO YEARS. >> SO YOUR HOUSING TRUST FUND RFP IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS ROUND . THE RFP WAS RELEASED ON DECEMBER FOURTH. >> PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON JANUARY 30TH AND THEN YOU HAD A COUNCIL COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND HOUSING COMMITTEE ON APRIL 6TH. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR ACTION PREVIEW ON THE 13TH AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE PLANNED FOR APRIL 27TH AS CHAIR CHAIR MAYFIELD INDICATED AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE THE WEEK OF THE 20TH TO DIVE DEEPER INTO THE PROPOSALS. >> ALL RIGHT. HERE'S HERE'S WHERE THE SLIDES START GETTING TEENY TINY SO THIS INFORMATION WAS ALSO PROVIDED AS A SUMMARY IN YOUR PACKETS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT ON THIS SLIDE THERE ARE ONLY 16 PROPOSED PROPOSALS AND WE INDICATED THAT 18 CAME IN. SO TWO OF THOSE HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN. YOU'LL NOTE THAT CHERRY GARDENS IS NO LONGER ON THIS LIST. >> CHERRY GARDENS IS HOWEVER STILL PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY HAD THEY HAD A RELATIVELY SMALL ASK OF THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND STAFF WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATE PATH FORWARD WHERE THEY COULD STILL MAKE THE PROJECT WORK WITHOUT YOUR FUNDING. SO THAT PROJECT IS STILL PLANNED TO TO APPLY FOR TAX REHABILITATION TAX CREDITS. >> SO AGAIN A TOTAL OF EIGHT DEVELOPMENTS UNDER RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF OF THE REMAINDER AS HOME OWNERSHIP AND YOU HAD ONE PROPOSAL COME IN UNDER THE INNOVATION CATEGORY. >> SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO FOR EXPEDIENCY SAKE IS GOT TO CAPTURE THE PUNCHLINE RIGHT HERE AT THE BEGINNING AND SHARE WITH YOU THAT STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING FOUR OF THE RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION COMMUNITIES THAT IS MINERAL SPRINGS COMMONS ,TWO OF VALLEY FAMILY, THE VILLAGE AT GREATER HEIGHTS AND EVOKE LIVING AT WILL. LAURA LAKE AND THEN WE ARE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL ALL OF THE REMAINING OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENTS AND SO WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH EACH OF THESE TONIGHT. >> SO BACK AT LAST SLOWED DOWN A BIT SINCE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US RUSHING THROUGH THIS WHAT FOR WE ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. >> SO I WILL I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM BUT I WANTED TO JUST SUMMARIZE FOR YOU FOR NOW . SO THE ROAD TO MINERAL SPRINGS COMMONS ROAD FOR OAK VALLEY FAMILY ROAD SIX THE VILLAGE AT GREER HEIGHTS ROAD SEVEN EVOKE LIVING AT WILL. LAURA LAKE COVERING ALL OF THE HOME OWNERSHIP APPLICATION ACTIONS WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR APPROVAL WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW AT THE OUTSET SO THERE'S A MAP OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET AND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATIONS YOU RECEIVED APPLICATIONS IN A FAIRLY BROAD RANGE OF GEOGRAPHIES ACROSS THE CITY FOR RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION. YOU DID RECEIVE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS ACROSS COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE AND UNDER HOME OWNERSHIP. YOU ALSO RECEIVED AN APPLICATION IN DISTRICT SIX. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING UNDER DISTRICT SEVEN. AS A REMINDER THOUGH YOU DID APPROVE A HOUSING TRUST FUND ALLOCATION IN DISTRICT SEVEN IN JUST THE LAST ROUND. >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR YOU IN YOUR BOOKLETS IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE INVESTMENTS AS YOU HAVE MADE THEM FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE 2024 BOND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE MORE THAN JUST THIS SMALL PIECE OF OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. >> SO I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO THE THE RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENTS AGAIN, I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENTS WITH YOU TONIGHT. ADDITIONAL DETAILS ARE AGAIN IN GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PDF BOOKLET HOW BACK TO ME SO THE FIRST TWO DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE RECOMMEND DOING ARE BOTH 9% TAX CREDIT PROJECTS. SO WE DISCUSSED IN HOUSING COMMITTEE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TAX CREDITS AS A PRODUCTION ENGINE FOR CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 9% AND THE 4% TAX CREDITS, THE 9% TAX CREDITS ARE A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE PROCESS. YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. ARE THEY THEY WILL GO IN MAY IF YOU APPROVE THEM THEY WILL PROCEED TO THE STATE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE PROCESS THERE IS IS THAT THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER ABOUT FUNDING. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE VILLAGE AT GREER HEIGHTS. SO THE VILLAGE PARKER HEIGHTS IS A PLANNED 80 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR SENIORS AS PROPOSED BY DREAM KEY PARTNERS. THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT OF LAND OWNED BY MECKLENBURG COUNTY OFF OF RANDOLPH ROAD IN THE GREER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THIS IS A 14 ACRE SITE IN THE MASTER PLAN ON THIS COUNTY OWNED LAND IS COMPRISED OF A MIX OF HOMEOWNERSHIP AND RENTAL COMMUNITIES IN PREVIOUS HOUSING TRUST FUND ROUND YOU ALL APPROVED ARLINGTON TOWNHOMES WHICH WAS 35 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP ON THIS SITE YOU ALSO DEFERRED A PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IN IN THAT ROUND THIS ROUND YOU RECEIVED TWO PROPOSALS FROM DREAM KEY FOR MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES ON THIS SITE THIS ONE THE VILLAGE AT GREER HEIGHTS FOR SENIORS IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND THE OTHER IS RECOMMENDED TO BE DEFERRED. YOU ALSO RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP APPLICATION ALSO ON THIS SITE FROM CROSSROADS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WHICH YOUR STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING FOR INVESTMENT WHICH YOU'LL SEE LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION. >> SO THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PARTNERSHIP REALLY REFLECTS A COORDINATED INVESTMENT OF LAND FUNDING AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE INTENDED TO SUPPORT LONG TERM AFFORDABLE 80 SO MECKLENBURG COUNTY CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTING THE LAND INCLUDING A LONG TERM GROUNDLESS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE CONVEYANCE OF LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP AND SOME INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT. THE CITY PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED $2.2 MILLION IN FUNDING THROUGH CDBG RESOURCES FOR SITE WORK AT THE ENTIRE 14 ACRE SITE AND ALSO SECURED ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH A CONGRESSIONAL APPROPRIATIONS. AND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIP IN IN THIS MASTER PLAN WITH CROSSROADS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS A COMMUNITY BASED PARTNER, THEY'RE HELPING TO ALIGN THE PROJECT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD PRIORITIES AND TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS AND AGAIN THEY ALSO HAVE A HOME OWNERSHIP PROPOSAL IN YOUR SLATE OF RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. >> SO THE OVERALL FUNDING RECOMMENDATION FOR THE VILLAGE AT GREER HEIGHTS IS JUST OVER $3,063,000. >> YOU'LL NOTE HERE THAT YOUR STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING 2.763 FUND FUNDING FROM THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND $300,000 OF FEDERAL HOME FUNDS TO MAKE UP THAT THREE MILLION 63,000. >> THE UNIT MIX PROVIDES 26% OF THE UNITS AT 30% AND BELOW OF AMI THAT EXCEEDS YOUR HGF REQUIREMENT OF 20% AND NEARLY HALF THE UNITS ARE TWO BEDROOMS WHICH SERVES A GAP IN THE SENIOR MARKET. THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR 99 YEARS WHICH AGAIN IS THE LONGEST TO ALLOWABLE BY STATE LAW AND WHICH MAKES THIS A VERY EFFICIENT INVESTMENT AT $287 PER UNIT PER YEAR. >> SO AS I'M GOING THROUGH I'M REALLY JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE SLIDE UNDER THE FINANCIAL SUMMARY AND THE KEY INDICATOR TERMS. ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE INVESTMENT PER UNIT WHICH IS JUST OVER $38,000 IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WHICH CAME IN A LITTLE OVER 70 K PER UNIT. >> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF CITY AND STAFF AND COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERS AT DREAM KEY WORKING TOGETHER TO CREATE A MORE EFFICIENT PROPOSAL FOR THIS ROUND FROM THOSE AT THIS SITE YOU'LL NOTE UNDER LOCATION SUMMARY RECEIVES A HIGH LOCATION SCORE AND HAS ACCESS TO TRANSIT GROCERY PHARMACY, MEDICAL CARE AND RETAIL SERVICES AND WE TALKED QUITE A BIT IN COMMITTEE ABOUT THE CHANGE SCORE AND THE COMPONENTS THAT THE HIGH CHANGE SCORE REFLECTS THE RAPIDLY INCREASING SALES HOME SALES PRICES IN THE AREA AND THE NEARBY NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE DIVERSITY SCORES IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER. THAT REFLECTS IN PART THE HIGHER NUMBER OF HOUSING TRUST FUND INVESTMENTS NEARBY. YOU'LL NOTE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF KEY INDICATORS AND THIS WILL BE ON ON EACH SIDE THE NUMBER OF HOUSING TRUST FUND INVESTMENTS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SITE. THIS IS A LOCATION INDICATOR THAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED US IN THE PAST TO ADD. >> SO YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT ON YOUR MAPS IN THE IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND BOOKLET THE SITE IS SERVED BY THE ROUTE 15 BUS LINE AND THAT IS ACTUALLY A BUS LINE PROPOSED AS A 30 MINUTE FREQUENCY UNDER BETTER BUS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HOUSING COMMITTEE ASKED ASKED TO DO IS TO EVALUATE THE SITE SCORES UNDER THE FUTURE TRANSIT PLAN FOR BOTH BETTER BUS AND THE LIGHT RAIL LINES. AND WHILE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY CALCULATE HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE THE LOCATION SCORE WITH JUST A WEEK'S TIME AND WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN IN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. YOUR THE PROXIMITY SCORE FOR THIS SITE WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE UNDER THE FUTURE UNDER THE FUTURE TRANSIT BECAUSE OF THAT 30 MINUTE FREQUENCY OF THE BUS LINE. >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOUR POLICY HAS IDENTIFIED IS THE IMPORTANCE OF RESIDENT SERVICES THAT CAN PROMOTE STABILITY AND MOBILITY FOR FOR RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS IN THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY RESIDENT SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CHARLOTTE-MECKLENBURG LIBRARY OUTREACH DEPARTMENT. SO OUR PARTNERS WHO WERE JUST HERE ALONG WITH THE MECKLENBURG COUNTY SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM AND I WANTED TO JUST ALSO NOTE THAT DREAM KEY DID MEET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS SO YOU THE HOUSING TRUST FUND REQUIRES ONE COMMUNITY MEETING AND WE HAVE SOME PARAMETERS AROUND MAKING SURE THAT NOTICE NOTICE IS SENT OUT AND OUR PARTNERS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE MEETING MINUTES AND SHARE WITH US WHAT THEY HEARD AT THOSE MEETINGS. SO WHEN THERE WAS NOT NOT A LARGE AMOUNT OF ATTENDANCE BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BEFORE BUT NOTABLY ONE OF THE PERCIPIENT IN THE MEETING SHARED THAT SHE HAD GROWN UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS INTERESTED IN STAYING THERE AND EVEN ASKED IF THE IF SHE COULD GO AHEAD AND BE ADDED TO THE WAITLIST FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SO I THINK IT'S JUST REFLECTIVE OF THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT DREAM KEY AND THE COUNTY ARE TRYING TO CREATE AND IN GREER HEIGHTS AND CREATING PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN AGE IN PLACE EVEN IN A RAPIDLY CHANGING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEXT PROPOSAL FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS MINERAL SPRINGS COMMONS TOO. SO THIS IS YOUR OTHER 9% TAX CREDIT DEVELOPED MEANT THAT IS RECOMMENDED IN THIS ROUND FOR FUNDING MINERAL SPRINGS COMMONS TWO IS A PLANNED 91 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR SENIORS PROPOSED BY WESLEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND AS ITS NAME INDICATES IT IS INDEED PHASE TWO OF THE MINERAL SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF GRAHAM STREET AND WEST SUGAR CREEK ROAD. IN IT MINERAL SPRINGS ONE IS LOCATED RIGHT THERE ON THE ADJACENT PARCEL IT MINERAL SPRINGS ONE IS ALSO A SENIOR AFFORDABLE COMMUNITY THAT YOU INVESTED IN PREVIOUSLY WITH HOUSING TRUST FUND INVESTMENT THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES 73 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH THEY THEY COMPLETED IN 2023 IT'S FULLY LEASED AND HAS A WAITLIST WHICH INDICATES STRONG DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING THERE AT THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY. >> SO THE THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION FOR MINERAL SPRINGS TWO IS $1.1 MILLION. THE UNIT MIX PROVIDES 30% OF UNITS AT 30% AND BELOW AM I AGAIN EXCEEDING YOUR HGF REQUIREMENTS OF 20% AND IN THIS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES 31% OF THE UNITS WITH TWO BEDROOMS. >> THE DEVELOPMENT HAS A PROPOSED AFFORDABILITY PERIOD OF 60 YEARS AND COMBINED WITH THE LOW INVESTMENT PER UNIT MAKES THIS AGAIN A VERY EFFICIENT INVESTMENT AT $201 PER UNIT PER YEAR OF AFFORDABLE CITY. AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SITE THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SUGAR CREEK I-85 CORRIDOR OF OPPORTUNITY. >> THE SITE ITSELF RECEIVES A MODERATE SITE SCORE AND IT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSIT, GROCERIES, A PHARMACY PARK FINANCIAL INSTITUTION AND FAR AND SHOPPING CENTER. THE PROXIMITY SCORE, HOWEVER, DOES NOT YET TRANSIT POINTS IN THE CURRENT SITE SCORE WITH PLANNED TRANSIT INVESTMENTS THE SITE SCORE WILL IMPROVE BOTH IN PROXIMITY AND ACCESS. SO THIS SITE IS SERVED BY THE ROUTE 22 BUS LINE WHICH CONNECTS UNIVERSITY CITY TO CENTER CITY CHARLOTTE AND ALONG GRAHAM STREET. THAT'S ONE OF THE BUS LINES THAT'S PROPOSED TO INCREASE TO A 15 MINUTE FREQUENCY UNDER BETTER BUS. >> THE SITE IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE RED LINE COMMUTER COMMUTER CAR COMMUTER RAIL AND WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE PROPOSED HERITAGE STATION THE MINERAL SPRINGS COMMONS DEVELOPMENT IS STRUCTURED AS A FAITH BASED PARTNERSHIP. SO YOU'LL SEE YOUR FAITH AND HOUSING LOGO HERE ON THE SLIDE INDICATING IT AS SUCH. SO IN THIS CASE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH SERVES AS THE GROUNDLESS HOLDER REMAIN RETAINING OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND WHILE ENABLING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE. WESLEY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ACTION SERVES AS THE LEADS, THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND THEY HAVE BEEN THIS IS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT COMPLETED MINERAL SPRINGS ONE RESIDENTS SERVICES AT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE RESIDENT ACTIVITIES COORDINATED BY THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THIS IS FAIRLY STANDARD FOR A RENTAL COMMUNITY. WE BELIEVE IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY STRENGTHENED TO BETTER MEET THE INTENT OF YOUR FUNDING POLICIES. SO THIS IS RESIDENT SERVICES IS NOT THE STRONGEST PART OF THIS PROPOSAL BUT WITH OTHER STRENGTHS THE EFFICIENCY OF THE PROPOSED INVESTMENT STAFF BELIEVES THIS OFFERS A VERY STRONG VALUE PROPOSITION FOR COUNCIL. >> WESLEY CDC DID MEET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AGAIN ONE ONE PARTICIPANT THAT THAT JOINED TO SHARED SOME CONCERNS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS AS THEY'RE CROSSING THE STREET. SO THE SITE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY WALGREENS AND THEN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION FROM A FOOD LION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT IT'S ALSO A PART OF YOUR WEST SUGAR CREEK STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AREA. SO COMPLETE STREET UPGRADES ARE PLANNED FOR BOTH GRAHAM STREET AND SUGAR CREEK AT THIS INTERSECTION. SO IN THE FUTURE IT WILL BE NOT ONLY WELL SERVED BY TRANSIT BUT WILL BUT HAS PLANNED COMPLETE STREET UPGRADES AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE YOUR TWO 9% TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS. >> THE NEXT TWO ARE FOR OUR 4% TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS EVOKE LIVING AT LAURA LAKE AND OAK VALLEY FAMILY SO WELL LAURA LAKE IS A PLANNED 120 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY FOR SENIORS. SO THIS IS YOUR YOUR THIRD SENIOR PROPOSAL IN THIS ROUND PROPOSED BY CC COMMUNITIES WHICH IS AN AFFILIATE OF CROSSLAND SOUTHEAST. >> THE COMMUNITY IS PROPOSED ALONG NORTH SHARON AMITY ROAD NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH CENTRAL AVENUE NEARBY TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF NORWOOD LAURA LAKE WINDSOR PARK AND SHEFFIELD PARK. SO YOU WILL LIKELY RECOGNIZE THE EVOKE LIVING NAME CC COMMUNITIES HAS COMPLETED FIVE TAX CREDIT COMMUNITIES IN CHARLOTTE AND THIS PROPOSED COMMUNITY FOLLOWS A SIMILAR MODEL AND PROGRAM SO IN ADDITION TO THE FIVE COMPLETED AND EVOKE LIVING AT EASTLAND IS ALSO AN AFFORDABLE SENIOR COMMIT COMMUNITY THAT COUNCIL INVESTED IN AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT EAST ONE YARDS APPROXIMATELY A HALF A MILE FROM THIS SITE. THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION FOR A VOTE LIVING AT LAURA LAKE IS $5.85 MILLION. THE PROPOSED UNIT MIX HERE INCLUDES 24 UNITS AT 30% AM I AM BELOW WHICH MEETS YOUR HGF REQUIREMENT AND INCLUDES 40% OF THE UNITS WITH TWO OR TWO BEDROOMS. >> THE DEVELOPMENT PERIOD HAS A PROPOSED AFFORDABILITY OF 99 YEARS AND A MORE AVERAGE AGE INVESTMENT PER UNIT OF JUST OVER $48,000. SO THIS IS THE HIGHEST INVESTMENT PER UNIT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THIS HGF ROUND. HOWEVER IT IS ON PAR WITH YOUR AVERAGE INVESTMENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. >> THE SITE ITSELF HAS A MODERATELY HIGH LOCATION SCORE WITH PROXIMITY TO MEDICAL GROCERIES, FINANCIAL SERVICES SHOPPING CENTER AND A PHARMACY . IT'S SERVED BY A BUS STOP ALONG NORTH SHORE AND MANY CONNECTED TO THE 29 AND 222 BUS LINES AND WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF A STOP ON CENTRAL AVENUE ON THE HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTE NINE WHICH AGAIN WILL BE ENHANCED WITH SIGNAL PRIORITY AND ENHANCED STOPS UNDER BETTER BUS. >> SO THE SITE IS LOCATED AND YOU'LL BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS FROM THE REZONING IT LOCATED IN DISTRICT FIVE WITHIN THE CENTRAL ALBEMARLE CORRIDOR OF OPPORTUNITY. >> SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION SUMMARY IT DOES HAVE A LOWER DIVERSITY OF SCORE AND THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY COMMUNITY ABOUT LOWER HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THE SURROUNDING AREA RELATIVE TO OTHER PARTS OF CHARLOTTE WITH ITS PROXIMITY TO THE TRANSFORMATIVE INVESTMENT IN EASTLAND YARDS AND A RELATIVELY HIGH CHANGE SCORE WHICH REALLY INDICATES INCREASING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY RISING SALES PRICES AND INCREASED RISK FOR DISPLACEMENT. THIS DEVELOPMENT MEETS THE LOCATION PRIORITIES OF YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING POLICY. >> HOWEVER THERE WAS OF COURSE SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY CONCERN RAISED ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DURING THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND THE RECENT REZONING PROCESS. MUCH OF WHAT WAS RECORDED IN THE COMMUNITY MEETING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HGF INVESTMENT FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC CONCERNS SAFETY POTENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS TREE AND OPEN UP OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION AND OVERALL LACK OF AMENITIES IN EAST CHARLOTTE ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT REZONING ENABLING CONSIDERATION OF THIS HOUSING TRUST FUND REQUEST RELATED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THIS LOCATION IS PART OF THE ALBEMARLE CENTRAL STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AREA WHICH HAS A PLANNED MOBILITY HUB AND PLANNED COMPLETE STREET UPGRADES ALONG SHARON AMITY ROAD IN THE NEAR AND THE MORE NEAR TERM THE SITE WILL BENEFIT FROM BOTH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS UNDERWAY AS PART OF THE EASTLAND YARDS REDEVELOPMENT AND PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE BY THE DEVELOPER. >> THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES SEVERAL PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE INTENDED TO SUPPORT RESIDENT SERVICES AND LONG TERM AFFORDABILITY AT THE SITE AS WITH OTHER EVOKE LIVING COMMUNITIES, THE NONPROFIT FREEDOM COMMUNITIES WILL SERVE AS THE PRIMARY OWNER WHICH PROVIDES BOTH A PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR CASH FLOW TO SUPPORT THE WORK OF FREEDOM COMMUNITIES ACROSS CHARLOTTE. >> THE DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED ON LAND TO BE ACQUIRED FROM THE ADJACENT CHARLOTTE CALVARY CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE WITH A PORTION OF SALE PROCEEDS SUPPORTING THE CHURCH'S COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. CURRENTLY THOSE INCLUDE FOOD PANTRY THINGS SUCH AS FOOD PANTRY BACKPACK MINISTRY AND COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT SERVICES. THERE'S ALSO A PARTNERSHIP WITH KENNEDY PROPERTIES AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PLANNED TO DEVELOP 11 MARKET RATE TOWNHOMES ON THE SAME SITE WHICH WILL BE STAGED TO TRANSITION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY ADJACENT RESIDENT SERVICES WILL PROBABLY PROVIDED AT WILL LAURA LAKE BY APARTMENT LIFE SIMILAR TO OTHER EVOKE LIVING DEVELOPMENTS. APARTMENT LIFE IS A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER AND PLAN TO PROVIDE SERVICES ON A WEEKLY BASIS FUNDED THROUGH THE PROPERTY OPERATIONS TO SUPPORT HOUSING STABILITY AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. >> SO MORE DETAILS ON THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES WILL BE IN YOUR BOOKLET THE LAST RECOMMENDED RENTAL RENTAL HOUSING PRODUCTION DEVELOPMENT THAT STAFF WILL SHARE TONIGHT IS OAK VALLEY FAMILY OAK VALLEY FAMILY IS A PLANNED 188 UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY PROPOSED BY HORIZON DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES HORIZON IS AN AFFILIATE OF AN LIBYAN AND THEY HAVE ALSO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT ENGAGED A PARTNERSHIP WITH URBAN ATLANTIC. THIS AGAIN IS A 4% TAX CREDIT PROPOSAL. THE SITE FOR OAK VALLEY FAMILY IS LOCATED OFF OF GREEN OAKS LANE THAT'S TUCKED BETWEEN CENTRAL AVENUE AND COMMONWEALTH AVENUE IN DISTRICT ONE ADJACENT TO BRIER CREEK. THIS COMMUNITY IS ALSO PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT AND REPLACEMENT OF THE FORMER 50 UNIT OAK VALLEY APARTMENTS WHICH NOW SITS VACANT. >> SO IF YOU IF YOU GO OUT TO THAT SITE THERE THERE WERE PREVIOUSLY 50 UNITS OF HOUSING PROVIDED BY AND LIVING IN THE THEY ARE AND HAVE BEEN BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND FOR SAFETY ISSUES WERE CLOSED DOWN AND THE RESIDENTS WERE RELOCATED AND NOW THE SITE ITSELF IS FENCED OFF AND THE BUILDINGS ARE VACANT IN LIBYA AND ALSO PROPOSES A 76 UNIT SENIOR COMMUNITY AT THIS LOCATION. BUT THEY ARE NOT SEEKING HOUSING TRUST FUND INVESTMENT FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. >> SO AGAIN OAK VALLEY FAMILY IS ALSO A REVISION FROM A PREVIOUS ITERATION OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU RECEIVED IN A PREVIOUS ROUND THAT THAT ITERATION ENVISIONED A 500 UNIT MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE SOME MUCH HIGHER DENSITY AND ALSO A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER PUBLIC INVESTMENT FOR THIS ITERATION OF OAK VALLEY FAMILY . THE FUNDING RECOMMENDATION IS $1.5 MILLION. THE UNIT MIX PROVIDES 25% OF UNITS AT 30%. AM I ON BELOW AGAIN EXCEEDING YOUR HGF REQUIREMENT ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ABOUT THESE 47 UNITS AT 30% AMI IS THAT IN LIVING IN WILL UTILIZE PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS THAT THEY HAVE THROUGH HUD AND SO RESIDENTS IN THESE UNITS WILL PAY ONLY 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON RENT EVEN WHEN ALLOWABLE RENTS ARE ALLOWABLE. RENTAL RATES INCREASE IN TAX COMMUNITIES OVER TIME. SO THOSE PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS ENABLE THEM TO TO FURTHER SUPPORT STABILITY OF OF RESIDENTS AT THE VERY LOW INCOME AS A FAMILY COMMUNITY OAK VALLEY WILL PROVIDE 69% OF UNITS WITH TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS INCLUDING 24 THREE BEDROOM UNITS. THOSE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED ACROSS EACH AMI LEVEL. >> THE PROPOSED AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS 99 YEARS AND COMBINED WITH A LOW INVESTMENT PER UNIT EVEN IF YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING UNITS, THE AFFORDABILITY TERM MAKES THIS ANOTHER EFFICIENT INVESTMENT. >> THE SITE AGAIN HAS A MODERATE LEE HIGH LOCATION SCORE PRIMARILY DUE TO ITS HIGH CHANGE SCORE SO THAT 19.8 AGAIN TEN IS THE HIGHEST IN EACH CATEGORY AGAIN INDICATING THE INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, RISING HOME SALES PRICES AND INCREASED RISK FOR DISPLACEMENT. SO IF YOU'VE IF YOU'VE BEEN ON OAK VALLEY LANE, IT'S A LOVELY, LOVELY RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH WITH INDEED LARGE AND MATURE OAKS THAT PARTICULAR STREET IS SERVED BY THE 17 BUS LINE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY BUT IT'S ALSO LOCATED WITHIN A HALF MILE WALK OF SEVERAL STOPS ON CENTRAL AVENUE ON THE HIGH FREQUENCY ROUTE NINE. >> THE SITE HAS THE HIGHEST ACCESS SCORE AMONG THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH REFLECTS ITS PROXIMITY TO CENTER CITY AND ALSO THAT ACCESS TO THE HIGH FREQUENCY BUS LINE AND THE SITE ITSELF ACTUALLY PRESENTS LIMITATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF WETLANDS AND FLOOD PLAINS. BUT YOU KNOW, IN ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT IS FANTASTIC. IT WILL ALSO CONSERVE TEN ACRES OF THE SITE AS NATURAL HEAVILY FORESTED GREENSPACE PRESERVATION AND SO THEY HAVE PLANS TO LIMIT THE IMPACT ON THE LAND BY AVOIDING THE AREAS OF ENVIRONMENTAL SIGNIFICANCE AND THEN AGAIN CONSERVING THOSE TEN ACRES AND LIVING IN IT IS ALSO PURSUING THE DEVELOPMENT USING AN ADVANCED GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM HELPING TO CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY AND ALSO REDUCING LONG TERM COSTS FOR OPERATIONS AND FOR RESIDENTS IN LEVINE AND OAK VALLEY FAMILY WILL PROVIDE RESIDENT SERVICES THROUGH THEIR NONPROFIT AFFILIATE WHICH IS CALLED CORE CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENT EMPOWERMENT. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT OFFERS VOLUNTARY INDIVIDUALIZED COACHING AND SUPPORT FOR RESIDENTS FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND HOUSING STABILITY TOPICS SUCH AS EMPLOYMENT READINESS, FINANCIAL LITERACY, EDUCATION AND TRAINING, ASSET BUILDING AND HOMEOWNERSHIP PREPARATION. SO IN LIBYAN AS AS A PARTNER HAS MANY OF THE SAME GOALS FOR FOR ECONOMIC MOBILITY AS THE COUNCIL HAS SET OUT IN YOUR HOUSING POLICY IN LIBYA AND DID COMPLETE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REQUIREMENT AND PRIMARILY RESIDENT FEEDBACK NOTED APPRECIATION FOR THE REVISION TO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN FROM PREVIOUS ITERATIONS INCLUDING THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY AND BUILDING SIZE, REDUCED PARKING AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS. >> AND ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE AS THIS WAS A FORMER IN LIBYAN A PREVIOUS COMMUNITY FORMER RESIDENTS OF OAK VALLEY APARTMENTS WHO HAD BEEN RELOCATED RECEIVE PRIORITY TO RETURN TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT UPON COMPLETION IF THEY WISH. >> SO THOSE ARE YOUR FOUR MULTIFAMILY RECOMMENDATIONS AND I'M GOING TO MOVE IN TO HOMEOWNERSHIP AND I'LL AGAIN FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP THE THE PROPOSAL WAS THE PROPOSALS FROM YOUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS WERE WITHIN THE FUNDING AMOUNT STILL AVAILABLE IN YOUR HOME OWNERSHIP CATEGORY AND UPON EVALUATION FROM STAFF WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ALL GOOD CANDIDATES FOR YOUR INVESTMENT. SO THIS IS AGAIN A REFLECTION OF YOUR STAFF PUTTING FORWARD THE FULL SLATE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME IN FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP. I'LL GO THROUGH THESE MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN YOUR MULTIFAMILY ONES BECAUSE THOSE THOSE YOU HAVE YOU KNOW WE HAD EVALUATION AND AND A LIMITED NUMBER WE COULD BRING FORWARD TO YOU TO STAY WITHIN THAT 11.2 MILLION DOLLAR CAP BILLINGSLEY HOME HOMEOWNERSHIP IS A PLANNED 21 UNIT HOMEOWNERSHIP COMMUNITY PROPOSED BY CROSSROADS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. AS NOTED EARLIER, THIS IS PART OF THAT MASTER PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ON COUNTY OWNED LAND IN GREER HEIGHTS. >> THE PROPOSAL WILL ADD 19 AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN TWO DUETS IN THIS COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 35 TOWNHOME HOMES RECOMMENDED INVESTMENT IS $1,050,000 AND IS PROPOSED TO SERVE HOUSEHOLDS AT 50, 60, 70 AND 80% AMI. YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF UNITS HERE ON THE INFORMATION ON THE SLIDE AND THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD FOR BILLINGSLEY IS PROPOSED AS 15 YEARS. >> SO ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS ALL OF YOUR HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENTS WILL HAVE THE SAME PROPOSED YEARS OF AFFORDABILITY AT 15 YEARS EACH OF YOUR PARTNERS HANDLES THE AFFORDABILITY TERMS FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH. BUT THE BASELINE IS 15 YEARS AND THAT IS INTENDED TO BALANCE LESS WEALTH BUILDING FOR THE FIRST TIME HOMEOWNER BUT ALSO THE THE INVESTMENT PER PER YEAR AND TO MAINTAIN HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AT AFFORDABLE LEVELS OVER TIME AND TO YOUR NEXT RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENT IS THE SOUTH PARTICULAR DUETS. THIS IS A PLANNED SIX UNIT HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT COMPOSED FOR ABOUT EXCUSE ME I HATE TO INTERRUPT BUT I WANT TO YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. >> PLEASE DO. THANK YOU. SO REBECCA I WISH WE HAD WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS EARLIER AND SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TIME THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON SHARING WITH EVERYONE. SO I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY SINCE EVERYONE HAS THE POWERPOINT AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING TO GET A MEETING ON THE BOOKS NEXT WEEK FOR THE COMMITTEE FOR THE DETAIL. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO HIGHLIGHT NOW MAINLY TO THE SEISMIC DEBATE HOW HOW DO WE IDENTIFY WHAT'S CONSIDERED BAKED VACANT HOUSING IS ALMOST TEN. I HATE US CUTTING SHORT OUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT IN HERE BUT WITH US HAVING TO BEING ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED. >> ABSOLUTELY. HOW ABOUT I JUST RUN THROUGH THE NAMES AND UNIT NUMBER OF THESE HOME OWNERSHIPS WHICH WILL TAKE ME RIGHT TO THE SUMMARY SLIDES WHICH WILL GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. >> EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS WEST SIDE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST SIX UNITS OF S ROAD PROSPERITY ALLIANCE AND TRUE HOMES FOUNDATION AND THIS THESE ARE PARTNERS IN THE FAITH AND HOUSING INITIATIVE 39 UNITS THAT THEY BUILT WITH LEGACY AT POOR CREEK KINGDOM DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS THIS IS 23 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE BUT ALSO 54 UNITS OF MARKET RATE AT THE SITE AVALON AT PROSPERITY CHURCH A DREAM KEY PARTNERS PROPOSAL 16 TOWNHOME UNITS ZION HILLS WHICH IS A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY PROPOSAL 2020 UNITS OF HOME OWNERSHIP. ONE THING TO NOTE ABOUT THE HOME OWNERSHIP MODEL FOR HABITAT YOU'LL SEE THE NOTE THAT THE EFFECTIVE PERIOD OF RESTRICTIONS IS 45 YEARS AND THE LAST TWO ARE ACTUALLY BOTH LAND ACQUISITION FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP OAKDALE OAKDALE ROAD WHICH IS QUITE A LARGE SITE IN DISTRICT TWO PROPOSED TO ACCOMMODATE 65 AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS AND WISTERIA DRIVE IN DISTRICT SIX EXPECTED TO ACCOMMODATE AT LEAST 24 HOMEOWNERS SHIP UNITS. AND SO AGAIN, DETAILS ABOUT ABOUT EACH OF THOSE WILL BE PROVIDED IN YOUR BOOKLETS AND COMMITTEE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. >> SO WHEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE SUMMARY THEN STAFF FRA IS RECOMMENDING TONIGHT FOUR MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES TOTALING 11,000,213 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT IS THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT AVAILABLE IN THE BALANCE IN THAT CATEGORY IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND YOU'LL YOU MAY RECALL AS WE DISCUSSED VILLAGE AT GREER HEIGHTS THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING $300,000 IN HOME FUNDS THAT WAS SO THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THAT PROJECT BUT NOT GO OVER THE AMOUNTS IN YOUR ALLOCATION GOALS WE HAD JUST ABOUT THAT MUCH MONEY LEFT IN HOME FUNDING AND THEN IN HOME OWNERSHIP 9.654 MILLION FOR A TOTAL RECOMMENDATION OF OVER $20 MILLION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT AM HIGH LEVELS WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF RENT AND SALES PRICES THAT SLIDE GIVES YOU THAT THIS GIVES YOU THAT INFORMATION. BUT AS CHAIR MAYFIELD NOTED EVEN WITH JUST OVER $11 MILLION REMAINING IN THE HOUSING TRUST FUND, YOUR STAFF DID A FANTASTIC JOB NEGOTIATING GETTING COST DOWN FOR PARTICULAR PROJECTS, EXTENDING AFFORDABILITY TERMS AND WITH WITH THAT PROVIDING A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT COULD CREATE 479 RENTAL UNITS AND 214 HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS. SO THIS IS THE THE CURRENT HOUSING TRUST FUND BALANCE AND THEY LOOK AT THE FORECAST IF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE APPROVED AGAIN MUCH LIKE THE MANAGER PROVIDES HIS BUDGET TO YOU IN IN MAY AND HANDS IT OVER TO YOU AT THAT POINT FOR FOR YOUR FOR FOR YOU TO WORK WITH AND THE SAME IS TRUE HERE YOUR STAFF TONIGHT ARE PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE WAY THAT DEVELOPMENTS MEET YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING POLICY AND TONIGHT WE TURN IT THEN OVER TO YOU THE THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 9% DEVELOPMENTS IS 7.35 MILLION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO BREAK THIS OUT BECAUSE AGAIN THESE IF APPROVED BY A COUNCIL WOULD THEN GO TO THE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY FOR APPROVAL AND THOSE WOULD BE AWARDED IN AUGUST SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME. SO THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHERE WHERE YOU PUT WHERE YOU APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEN DOESN'T RECEIVE AN AWARD FROM THE STATE. THOSE FUNDS WOULD THEN REVERT TO THE HOUSING TRUST FUND BALANCE FOR YOU TO REALLOCATE. SO THE ENDING BALANCE THEN IF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE TO BE APPROVED WOULD BE TO JUST OVER $23.3 MILLION. AS A REMINDER, HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE THESE HOLDS FOR OPEN RFP AND COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS SO IF ALL OF THOSE MOVED FORWARD THAT WOULD LEAVE YOUR HOUSING TRUST FUND BALANCE AT JUST OVER $14 MILLION. SO NEXT STEPS AGAIN ON THURSDAY THE HGF BOOKLET WILL BE DELIVERED WITH DETAILED PROJECT INFORMATION IN YOUR THURSDAY PACKETS. WE'RE TENTATIVE WORKING ON THE DEFINITIVE OF RIGHT NOW THE WEEK OF THE 20TH FOR MAYFIELD WILL HOST A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ON APRIL 27TH COUNCIL WILL VOTE ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AT A COUNCIL BUSINESS MEETING AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED WITH CHAIR MAYFIELD IS THAT IN THE MAY COMMITTEE MEETING ON MAY 4TH HOUSING COMMITTEE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE DEFERRED MULTIFAMILY PROPOSALS AND YOU HAVE ALSO RECEIVED TO NOAH APPLICATIONS TO YOUR REVIEW YOUR ROLLING RFP THAT HAVE COME IN BUT ARE NOT REFLECTED YET IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE TONIGHT. SO IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS SLATE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THERE WOULD STILL BE SEVERAL OTHER OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO REVIEW. AND SO WE'VE PROPOSED THAT HOUSING COMMITTEE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ON MAY FOURTH AS A REMINDER ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WATCHING THIS IS STILL A LONG PROCESS AHEAD OF US TO BRING NEW UNITS ONLINE. IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S ON APRIL 27TH. THERE'S FINANCIAL CLOSINGS DESIGN AND PERMITTING PROCESSES AND CONSTRUCTION TYPICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT A 12 TO 24 MONTH TIMELINE TO BRING NEW CONSTRUCTION UNITS ON LINE AND IT'S LATE BUT I AM HERE FOR YOU SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS I'M READY. REBECCA THANK YOU. WE GO I'M A YEAR TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR. I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER MAYFAIR, THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER JD AND COUNCILMEMBER MALE ON Q AND COUNCIL MEMBER AS MAYOR PRO TEM AT THIS OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GO AND THEN I'LL GO LESS. >> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN MY COUNCILMEMBER. JD YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH REBECCA I REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND AS ALWAYS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BREAKING DOWN THE NUMBERS SO I JUST HAVE A FEW BIT OF CONCERN THAT I HAD POSED AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING. RIGHT? WHEN DID THE HOUSING TRUST FUND APPLICATIONS CLOSE THE APPLICATION IS CLOSED ON JANUARY 30TH I BELIEVE 30TH. OKAY. AND CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY OR CLARIFICATION AROUND WHEN FOLKS APPLY FOR THE HOUSING TRUST FUND? >> ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR REZONING IF THEY HAVE THEY NEED A REZONING APPROVED BY THE TIME THE APPLICATION CLOSES UNDER YOUR CURRENT RFP, THE SITE CONTROL AND APPROPRIATE REZONING WHICH ARE YOUR TWO BASELINE REQUIREMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE COUNCIL RECEIVE CVS AND VOTES ON RECOMMENDATIONS. SO YOU DO HAVE A SITUATION IN THIS ROUND WHERE YOU RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FROM LAURA LAKE ON JANUARY 30TH AND THE REZONING WAS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL MARCH. THE BECAUSE THE REZONING WAS APPROVED AT THEN MADE THIS THAT DEVELOPMENT ELIGIBLE FOR HOUSING TRUST FUNDING THANK YOU FOR MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS I THINK IT WOULD BE SOUND AND REASONABLE FOR US TO EVALUATE THAT POLICY AND OUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE OFTEN AND NOT ONLY DURING THIS COUNCIL BUT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL IS DEVELOPERS SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION BEFORE THEIR REZONING IS APPROVED AND IT OFTENTIMES LEADS TO THIS FALSE ASSUMPTION THEN THAT THEY ARE GUARANTEED HOUSING TRUST FUNDS WHEN THAT IS NOT THE CASE. AND SO WHEN THEY DO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND THEY MAKE THE PITCH TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT'S GOING TO USE HOUSING TRUST FUND DOLLARS, THAT'S MISLEADING, RIGHT? IT'S MISLEADING TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S CONFUSING TO COUNCIL THIS IS NOT A CLEAR KIND OF EXCELLENT ACTION OUT THERE THAT SAYS THAT WHAT REBECCA JUST EXPLAINED VERY ELOQUENTLY THAT YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE REZONING APPROVED BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR. I DON'T THINK IT REALLY SETS UP FOR A COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT MIGHT ALSO BE NOVEL TO THIS BUSINESS AND HAVE THIS SAME I THINK ABILITY TO COMPETE FOR THESE HOUSING TRUST FUND DOLLARS. THE OTHER THING IS REALLY I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING THE SCORE IN THE WHAT'S IT CALLED THE LOCATION SUMMARY SCORE I THINK FOR ME IS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING ONE IN MY DISTRICT I MEAN IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PER UNIT COUPLED WITH SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY CONCERNS PLUS A SITE POINT FIVE MILES AWAY THAT IS THE SAME CONCEPT IT IS I MEAN IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME DEVELOPMENT AT EASTLAND YARDS. I THINK AGAIN COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE SHOULD LOOK AT AT KIND OF THAT LOCATION SUMMARY AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT IS EQUITABLE NOT ONLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHERE AS AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE I HAVE SOUND AND SOUNDED THE ALARM MULTIPLE TIMES WE WON'T BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS BY RE CONCENTRATING LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING. RIGHT. I'M NOT THAT I AM AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I AM PRO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M MORE NECESSARILY PRO AFFORDABLE HOUSING EQUITY MEANING THAT WE HAVE TWO COUPLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH HIGH OPPORTUNITY ZONES. RIGHT. AND IF WE ARE COUPLING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH AREAS THAT LACK AMENITIES THEN WE'RE JUST REPEATING THE SAME CYCLES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF. AND SO I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THAT FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH REBECCA THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER JD COUNCILMAN MAYO YEAH THIS ACTUALLY IS A BIT LINE WITH WHAT JD IS TALKING ABOUT SO I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE DISTRICT MIX INCOME WAS NOT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS PARTICULARLY AS I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MAYFIELD AND I HAVE TALKED OFTEN THAT WE DON'T WANT RIVER DISTRICT TO BECOME ANOTHER VALENTINE SO I THINK OH SORRY NO NO SHAME TO COME DOWN IT COMES DOWN IT BUT YEAH WE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE NOT JUST OUR MOST AFFLUENT RESIDENTS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING I'LL BE TALKING TO A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT AND JD THAT I MEAN THAT FOR YOUR PROJECT I KNOW THAT WAS TWO YEARS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND POTENTIALLY SO MAYBE THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE HAVE. WE PASS ON WITH OR MAYBE THIS YEAR SORRY I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION OF ME JUST CHATTING AND THEN WE THINK ABOUT REALLOCATING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO RIVER DISTRICT AND WE STILL HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT INNOVATION SO THERE'S STILL YOU KNOW, $4.2 MILLION THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED THERE THAT COULD GO TO SOME OF THAT RIVER DISTRICT. BUT I JUST I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES WE'VE MADE PREVIOUSLY AND THE FACT THAT THE RIVER DISTRICT WAS NOT ON THERE IS CONCERNING AND IF I MAY MAYOR PRO TEM CLARIFYING ABOUT THE THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU DON'T SEE RECOMMENDED SO I IN MY IN MY HASTE AT THE END I SKIPPED OVER THIS PART WHICH IS AGAIN YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DETAIL ON THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL. ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOUR STAFF PRIORITIZE ISED RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT IS BASED ON THE TIME PROPOSED TIME TO CONSTRUCTION. >> WE WANT TO GET UNITS MOVING QUICKLY AND WE WERE ALSO CAREFUL TO STAY WITHIN THE AND THE AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED FOR EACH INVESTMENT BUT THOSE AGAIN ARE NOT HARD CAPS SO YOU HAVE THOSE ABILITY TO DISCUSS THE REMAINING FUNDS AND THE HOUSING TRUST FUND AND SPECIFICALLY FOR RIVER DISTRICT THE THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT WAS JUST RECOMMENDED IN YOUR PREVIOUS HOUSING TRUST FUND ROUND AND HAS NOT CLOSED YET AND SO STAFF LOOK LOOK LOOKS AT THAT AS YOU KNOW ONE OF THE FACTORS IN WHAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE BRING FORWARD AND SO THE THE OTHER THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT NAVAN ROAD IS ALSO A TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENT AGAIN DEFERRED THEY ARE NOT DIDN'T DECLINED THESE ARE GOOD PROJECTS WITH STRONG VALUE PROPOSITIONS AS WELL AS THE OTHER MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY AT PROPOSED BY DREAM KEY AT THE MECKLENBURG COUNTY SITE. SO AGAIN WE'RE PRIMARILY ATTEMPTING TO BRING FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FIT WITHIN YOUR ALLOCATION CATEGORIES. THE LAST THING TO NOTE ON YOUR INNOVATION PROPOSAL WHICH WE DIDN'T DISCUSS WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT FOR DEFERRAL IT'S A IT'S AN EXCITING IDEA MODULAR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH 80 USE PROPOSED BY WEST CHARLOTTE LAND TRUST HOWEVER THERE'S NO THE SPECIFICS SITES IDENTIFIED YET AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY TO DEFER IT UNDER INNOVATION AND WORK WITH THE PARTNER TO IDENTIFY SITES AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AS A HOME OWNERSHIP PROPOSAL. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER EDGEMERE THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT'S BEEN MADE BY MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK CLEARLY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO RECOMMEND A PROPOSAL WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE COMMUNITY OPPOSITION THERE AND CLEARLY WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN RIVER DISTRICT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WILL BECOME AN AREA WHERE IT'S OUT OF REACH FOR MANY PEOPLE. SO I WOULD BE HEARING MORE FROM THE COMMITTEE. I LOOK FORWARD TO COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AT SOME POINT WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS LOCATION POLICY. YEAH BECAUSE I THINK WE AT THE DYESS HAVE TALKED ABOUT LOCATION MULTIPLE TIMES AND UNLESS WE CHANGE THE POLICY WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN REFER THAT ITEM TO THE COMMITTEE. SO DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO REFER THE LOCATION POLICY TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE WHAT IT SURE THE REZONING I'M DOING THE LOCATION POLICY. >> WHAT'S ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE OVERALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING POLICY IS ALREADY AN OPEN REFERRAL TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND LOCATION PRIORITIES AND THE LOCATION SCORE ARE A COMPONENT OF THAT DISCUSSION. THE COMMITTEE HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT ACTUALLY ALREADY TWICE AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT OVERARCHING POLICY HAS ALREADY ACTIVE IN COMMITTEE. >> OKAY SO YEAH BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER MASSARA ARE YES AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER MAYFIELD WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND THE REZONING LAST WEEK AND WE NEED TO SEE DIFFERENT RESULTS ESPECIALLY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF THAT ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE IF WE TRULY WANT TO TACKLE UPWARD MOBILITY WE CANNOT TACKLE UPWARD MOBILITY IF WE KEEP CONCENTRATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 1 OR 2 PARTS OF OUR CITY. IN FACT, ONE MAC ALSO REACHED OUT TO US AND THEY ADVOCATED FOR HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO GREAT SCHOOLS IN DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT SEVEN SPECIFICALLY SO THAT WE CAN REALLY TACKLE UPWARD MOBILITY CRISIS. >> ALSO I WANT TO THANK HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE A SHOT AT AMERICAN DREAM ESPECIALLY HOUSING AND ALSO I SEE DREAM KEY PARTNERS AS WELL AS LAUREL STREET. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER OWENS I THANK YOU. >> I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. I'LL BE BRIEF. I FIRST AND FOREMOST I SAY IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A SPOT FOR ANY OF YOU MY BACKYARD IN DISTRICT SIX WOULD BE ONE THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER BUT I JUST I WANT TO GET BACK TO THIS ABOUT LIVING IT WELL LAURA LAKE BECAUSE I MAY BE MISREMEMBERING BUT DID WE NOT APPROVE THE REZONING CONTINGENT ON THEM GETTING HOUSING TRUST FUND DOLLARS AND THEN IT WOULD REVERT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS IF THEY DIDN'T GET THE DOLLARS TO THE THE REZONING IS THIS IS A SEPARATE AND DISTINCT PROCESS SO THE REZONING SO IT GETS I UNDERSTAND THAT I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD SAID THAT THEY WOULD REVERT TO SO WHAT WHAT THEY HAD INDICATED AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE SITE AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD THEY WOULD TRY FOR THAT FOR TWO ROUNDS AT WHICH POINT THEY THEY WOULD BE PURSUING DEVELOPMENT AT THAT INCREASED DENSITY AT BUT WITH NO AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED I APPRECIATE THAT IT WAS SO IT WAS TWO ROUNDS SO OKAY THANK YOU THAT'S ALL I HAD TO I YOU MADAM CHAIR BRING US HOME. >> THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM AND THANK YOU ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND REBECCA FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> I WILL SHARE THAT I YES, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO US HAVING AN ADDITIONAL MEETING NEXT WEEK WHERE WE REALLY GET TO DIG IN AND ALSO FOR THE AD HOC. SO JUST BEFORE TRANSPORTATION I WILL BE MADE UP OF A COUPLE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RIVER DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY WHICH WAS ONCE UPON A TIME MY PRIDE AND JOY AND THE REASON IT WAS MY PRIDE AND JOY IS BECAUSE WE HAD VERY DIRECT CONVERSATIONS REGARDING NOT CREATING ANOTHER BALLANTINE HAVING BOTH WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT IS RENTAL AND FOR SALE NOW UNFORTUNATELY WHAT I LEARNED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT PREVIOUS STAFF LEADERSHIP THAT WAS HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DEVELOPERS THEN WE RELY ON STAFF TO THEN GO IN AND PUT THE LEGAL LANGUAGE IN PLACE AS WELL AS DO WHATEVER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATION THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. THE PREVIOUS STAFF DID NOT DO THAT SO I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND LEARN THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT WHICH I HAVE MINUTES AND NOTES OF OF WHAT OUR EXPECTATION WAS GOING TO BE WHEN WE WORKED TO GET PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THE BUS SYSTEM AS WELL AS WIDENING AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES THAT WAS CREATED TO HELP MOVE THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE ADDITION FORWARD DID NOT HAPPEN IN WRITING YET WITH THAT SAID, I SEE US HAVING A GREATER OPPORTUNITY IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT SUPPORT LOOKS LIKE VERSUS A PROJECT LIKE THAT ONE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE WE'RE GIVEN A MIXED MESSAGE. WE SAY WELL WITH THE DISTRICT PROJECT IT HASN'T CLOSED YET AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT DID NOT HAVE A REZONING THAT WAS COMPLETED PRIOR TO THEM APPLYING. SO IN THEORY THEIR APPLICATION SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN ACCEPTED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING TAKEN CARE OF THAT WAS MANY MONTHS LATER. SO WE WHICH IS WHY IN COMMITTEE WE GOT TO HAVE A MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CLEAR GUIDELINE SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE CREATING FAVORITES. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WINNERS AND LOSERS IS A WHY DOES ONE ORGANIZATION OR SET OF INDIVIDUALS GET TO DO ONE THING? WELL WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN PLACE SAYING OKAY, THE DEADLINE FOR THIS IS JANUARY BUT THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE IN PLACE. YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MAJOR PIECE IN PLACE UNTIL MANY MONTHS LATER BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT HASN'T CLOSED YET BUT AND THE SCORING HOW DO WE OFFSET THAT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE CREATING OUT THERE WHEN IF YOU GO ON TO THE RIVER DISTRICT'S WEBSITE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE RENTAL FOR A STUDIO THAT'S 690FT STARTS AT $1,539 FOR 619. THE ONE BEDROOM TO 679FT IS $1,620. >> THAT WAS IT WAS NEVER THE INTENTION BUT YET UNFORTUNATELY WE ALLOW STAFF TO DO WHAT STAFF DO. WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE LEADERSHIP, THE CONTENT YOU WHAT THE CONVERSATION WAS AROUND THE TABLE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE DIVERSITY FOR THE WORKERS TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE. SO WHEN WE GET TO COMMITTEE AND I WANTED TO JUST SHARE SINCE WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS AROUND THE TABLE WHO WEREN'T AROUND IN 2017 WHEN THE REVENUE ISSUE WAS JUST LAND THAT HADN'T EVEN BEEN CLEARCUT YET, WHAT THE INITIAL EXPECTATION AND ACTUAL VERBAL COMMITMENT WAS AND THOSE VERBAL COMMITMENTS WAS AROUND MIXED INCOME WORKFORCE HOUSING BOTH IN RENTAL AND HOME OWNERSHIP. THE HOUSES OUT THERE NOW $700,000 PLUS WE PUT A LOT WE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PUT A LOT OF INVESTMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA WITH THE EXPECTATION OF CREATING WHAT A TRUE DIVERSE COMMUNITY COULD LOOK LIKE AND THIS WAS ONE OF OUR LAST TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND RIGHT? SO I APPRECIATE AND WILL ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF DOES BUT STAFF IS ALSO LIMITED BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE A POOL. SO IF WE WANT BETTER LANGUAGE WE COUNCIL STARTING WITH COMMITTEE NEED TO PRESENT STRONGER AND MORE DIRECT LANGUAGE WHICH WE DID TWO YEARS AGO WHEN MYSELF THAT THE WELLINGTON COUNCILMEMBER DRIGGS WE HAD DONE SOMETHING THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE WITH THE REALLOCATION. NOW IT'S JUST A TIME TO TWEAK THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE AREAS WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS. THEY HAVE A POOL WITHIN A 3 TO 5 MILE RADIUS WHEN WE HAVE AREAS THAT ARE NOT GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY, YEAH IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT IT'S WORTH IT IF WE CAN GET IT IN UPTOWN PLAZA DISTRICT 167 AND DOES WE HAVE A DISTRICT AREA SPECIFICALLY OF DISTRICT THREE SO I LOOK FORWARD TO US HAVING AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN STAB OUR STAFF LIAISONS WILL BE REACHING OUT TO ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR US TO IDENTIFY A DATE SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS OTHER MEETING IN. BUT ALSO KEEP IN MIND WE DID HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MAYOR AS WELL AS THE MANAGER KNOWS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A DISCUSSION SPECIFICALLY FOR HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. SO COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE GOING A COUPLE OF US ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND BOTH OF YOU AND THE ENTIRE TEAM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. I KNOW WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU ALL THE LANGUAGE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT I DO WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEVEL SET ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SEE HEY, RUBY DISTRICTS ARE HERE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? >> WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO TRY TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE MADE WITH UNDERSTANDING OF SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THAT WAS NOT CODIFIED THE LEGAL LANGUAGE. >> THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM, CITY MANAGER ANYTHING ELSE THE CITY MANAGER REPORT SO LET ME JUST TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT 30S SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE. >> THIS IS A LOT OF WORK A TOP PRIORITY FOR US AND I APPRECIATE HAVE YOU ALL HAVE VIEWS. YOUR COMMITTEE MEETS THEIR PRODUCTIVE THEY MAY ECHO HOUSE AND CHAIR MAY FOR STAFF THANK YOU AND TO OUR PROVIDERS COUNCILMEMBER AZUMA RECOGNIZE YOU ALL THANK YOU FOR BEING PARTNERS WITH US AND THIS BUSINESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO THANK YOU COUNCIL I'M GOING TO GO ASK YOU ALL A FAVOR. I'M A BE RESPECTFULLY TO STAND 15 I PROMISE YOU WHY THE HUSBAND SAYING YOUR BOO THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE YOU ALL HOME BY 11 SO YOU WANT TO GET A HOTEL ROOM, RIGHT? >> SO I WILL BE VERY BRIEF IN MY EX AND WHEN I READ OUT THE NEXT POLICY ITEM IS ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT PLEASE. AND SO BUT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BRISK BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A CLOSE SESSION NOW THE THREE ITEMS OKAY SO WHO DID THIS TO? >> YEAH I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE. OKAY SO LET'S MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TEN SOLID WASTE SERVICES ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. >> MAY I HAVE A MOTION SO MOVED MOVED PROPERTIES IT'S A SECOND TO A SECOND SECOND THE MOVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER DEREK SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER AZUMA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND ITEM NUMBER TEN ALL THOSE OPPOSED I SAID I DON'T NUMBER 11 NOW IN THE BUSINESS SECTION 2020 2026 WATER SEWAGE REVENUE BONDS INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEER FINANCING AND I HAVE A MOTION A A QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER WANTED TO I'D LIKE TO BE EXCUSED. >> OH, OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO RECUSE? COUNCILMAN WANTED THE MOVE BY COUNCIL MEETING TO RECUSE EXCUSE EXCUSE SHACK ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER JD ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO THE EXCUSE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU. OKAY NOW IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11 DANNY MCDANIEL ABC DANNY YES SO TO ME BY COUNCILMAN MACK WE'LL SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DRIGGS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THOSE OPPOSED THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT FOR THE METRO LINE REGIONAL TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL MOVED TO APPROVE A, B AND C THANK YOU ZERO SECOND SECOND SEGMENT COUNCILMAN A JD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSE? >> THANK YOU. CASHMERE COSMOPOLITAN YOU HAD A COMMENT? >> I DID. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND FOR THOSE WHO MAY STILL BE WATCHING THIS REGIONAL TRAFFIC TRAVEL DEMAND MODEL, NOTHING IN HERE PRECLUDES THE BROADER DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING ABOUT I-77. SO IF ANYBODY IS WONDERING JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE JUST VOTED ON IS NOT IN ANY WAY IMPACTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THERE EXIT THANK THANK YOU CASHMERE WELLINGTON A BUSINESS ITEM AGENDA 13 JANETTA DRIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTRACT AMENDMENT IS THERE A MOTION SO MOVED MADE BY COUNCIL SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER JD QUEST AND COUNCIL MEMBER JD? >> YEAH I JUST REALLY WANTED TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE. IT WAS DELAYED PREVIOUSLY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL JUST QUICK TALKING POINTS ON THIS. THIS IS LIKE A SLIVER OF CITY PROPERTY THAT IS LAND LOCKED BEHIND HICKORY GROVE BAPTIST CHURCH RIGHT DRAKE FOR A COMPANY OWNS 18 ACRES OF THAT LAND AND SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE USING THAT CITY PROPERTY WHERE THIS CITY WILL BE SELLING THAT PROPERTY TO AND PUTTING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS IS GREAT. THE MODIFICATION IS WARRANTED TO ACCOMMODATE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SLASH TIME FRAME NEEDED TO PREPARE LOTS FOR BUILDING. THIS IS ALSO A COMMUNITY SUPPORTED REZONING WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK AT THE BEGINNING BUT THE CONCESSIONS WERE MADE. THIS IS HOUSING AS WELL THAT WON'T LOOK DIFFERENT RIGHT? NO POOR FLOOR. SO FIRST FEELINGS COUNCILMEMBER OWENS AND THEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AS I SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPER WILL WILL START IN LATE SUMMER OR FALL WHEN FINAL LAND DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS ISSUED STAFF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. GOOD. OKAY SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF LEVEL SET BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S INTERESTING ON A BUSINESS TRANSACTION SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DAVID CARR FOR THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ALTHOUGH OPPOSE THANK YOU AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14. NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PRESERVATION SUPPORT FOR 1001 TABLE APARTMENTS AND DISTRICT THREE WILL SHE MAKE THE MOTION SO MOVE AND BE A AND B MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER OH I'M SORRY COUNCILMEMBER MAILE SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER MAY FEEL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND BE RAISE YOUR HAND AND OPPOSE THANK YOU AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 CHARLOTTE FUTURE 2040 COMMUNITY AREA PLANS AND REVISE POLICY MAP IS THEIR MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER DRIGGS AND MAYOR PRO TEM I NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE. OKAY YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A MOTION VOTE TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> LET'S MAKE A MOTION. >> I NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT THE MOTION IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS IT APPEARS HERE. >> I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN AWAY SOME CHANGES. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN ON THIS SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU HERE THAT WE HAVE A SITUATION IN WHICH THE STAFF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE AREA PLANS IN THE TIME THAT BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND NOW AND THAT WAS THE RESULT OF ROBUST ONGOING ENGAGEMENT AND THE GLITCH THAT CAME UP WAS THE PLANNING COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THOSE CHANGES AND DIDN'T AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM AND SO IN FACT THEY FELT THAT SOME OF THEM I THINK RAN COUNTER TO OUR CORE DUTY OR POLICY AND 2.1 SO YOU HAVE A SHEET OF PAPER IN FRONT OF YOU HERE IN THAT LITTLE FOLDED PACKET AND IT OUTLINES ALL OF THESE THINGS I THINK I WILL ASK PLANNING DIRECTOR HOLMES TO JUST BRIEFLY TALK US THROUGH WHAT THESE ISSUES ARE AND THEN I WILL COMMENT ON THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN AS A RESULT OF THEM RIGHT? >> YES. >> SO YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE DOCUMENT THAT ON THE LEFT HAS STAFF PROPOSED CHANGES WHICH ARE BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT FEEDBACK AND ADDED NEW POLICIES SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGE AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND INFRASTRUCTURE. AND THEN ON THE MIDDLE COLUMN YOU HAVE SAY PLANNING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO ADOPT IT BUT THEY CHANGED THE LANGUAGE OF FIVE OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES SO YOU WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER GO WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CHANGES OR A PLANNING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO ADOPT IT. SO AGAIN THE DETAILS ARE IN FRONT OF YOU. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO AT THEM LINE BY LINE AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT IT IS ENTIRELY WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY TO GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE APPROVE THE CHANGES AS AGREED WITH THE STAFF NOTING THE PLANNING COMMITTEE'S ISSUES WITH SOME OF THEM AND WITH THE GOAL. I THINK THAT WE WOULD THEN WORK WITH THE PLANNING COMMITTEE TO RESOLVE ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE. BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM APPROVING THE STAFF RECOMMENDED CHANGES IS THAT RIGHT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. MR. DRIGGS COUNCIL RETAINS THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO COLLEAGUES, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THE PRODUCT OF THAT CONTINUING ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HELD OUT FOR THAT SOME OF US DID BUT THAT THAT WE WORKED THAT VERY HARD IN ORDER TO REACH A CERTAIN PLACE WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. THEREFORE THE MOTION I'M GOING TO MAKE WILL REFLECT THAT PREFERENCE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE STAFF CHANGES. THE OTHER POINT I WANT TO RAISE IS THAT I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER MAYO HAS A PROPOSAL AND WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT AND I WILL INCORPORATE THAT ALSO IN MY MOTION. >> THANK YOU. I MOVED TO ADOPT THE FOLLOWING COMMUNITY AREA PLANS WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CHANGES AND THE CHANGES SHOWN ON ATTACHMENT ONE CHANGING THE POLICY MAP REMAINING FRACTURING AND LOGISTICS TO INNOVATION MIXED USE ON THE AREA AND LABELED THREE BOUNDED BY MARK'S WOOD ROAD I 45 SHARPTON ROAD AND STEEL CREEK ROAD AND WEST OUTER COMMUNITY AREA PLAN RIGHT RIGHT SO SO I READ THEM IN MEETING AND YOU DID DID YOU SAY IN THERE WITH THE STAFFS PROPOSED CHANGES YES I MOVED TO ADOPT ALL RIGHT SO I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ADOPTING THE AREA PLANS AND THIS IS A GREAT MOMENT. IT'S TOO BAD IT'S SO LATE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SPEND A MINUTE THERE TOO TALKING ABOUT IT AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE HEROIC EFFORTS OF THE STAFF. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE AHEAD. WE'VE DESIGNED THIS CAR AD INFINITUM NOW WE NEED TO DRIVE IT AND SEE IF IT WORKS. SO AND THEREFORE I'M SECONDING THAT MOTION AND I THINK I HAVE TO FINISH. I DON'T THINK I FINISHED IT OFF. SORRY THAT WAS MY FAULT. NORTH INNER WEST. MIDDLE EAST MIDDLE OUTER WEST. INNER WEST. OUTER NORTH EAST. MIDDLE AND OUTER NORTH MIDDLE AND OUTER NINE OKAY SO THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THAT IN ANY CASE THAT IS WHAT THE THE MAP THAT WE ALL RECEIVED INDICATES. RIGHT? SO WE HAVE WE HAVE AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT RIGHT. AND I'M SECONDING THAT MOTION SO WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS IN COUNCIL MEMBER EDGEMERE COUNCILMAN MAYFIELD, COUNCIL MEMBER JD SURE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SO TO YOUR MOTION COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR THAT ADDRESS TILBURY ACRES CONCERNS THAT STEPHANIE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WAS ANNOUNCED PENDING ITEM THAT THE STAFF HAD WHEN WE FINISHED THAT OKAY GREAT. OKAY GREAT. IT'S LIKE I'M STEPPING OUT EARLIER. >> OKAY WELL FIRST I JUST WANT TO START BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE GREAT WORK MORNING BY YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAS DONE TO GET TO THIS POINT. >> I KNOW THERE WERE MANY, MANY DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP FORWARD ON BUILDING CONSENT SETS OF WITHIN COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL I ESPECIALLY I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON ENVIRONMENT SUSTAINABILITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE REDUCING IMPACTS, IMPROVING TRANSITION BETWEEN LAND USES AND ALSO ALIGNING GROWTH WITH INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN THAT COMES UP AT ALMOST EVERY ZONING MEETING KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WE ARE GROWING AND THOSE ARE SOME CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM WHERE WE WERE SIX MONTHS AGO AND AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE SEEING NEW PRESSURES NOW DATA CENTERS AND PARTICULARLY AROUND HIGH IMPACT USES WE HAVE SEEN NEAR NATURE PRESERVES SO THEY ARE RAISING SOME REAL QUESTIONS. I'VE HEARD CONCERNS AROUND ENERGY, WATER USAGE, QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS AND THESE ARE SOME VALID ISSUES. >> SO WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE, NOT REACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE THERE IS ONE COMING IN FRONT OF US PRETTY SOON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU I KNOW WE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT JUST HIGH LEVEL BUT CAN YOU JUST PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE TIMELINE FOR DEVELOPING REGULATIONS? IT'S ONCE THIS POLICY MAPS ARE APPROVED SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT RELATES TO DATA CENTERS AND HOW WILL THAT ALIGN WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AREA PLANS. >> SO REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET IN PLACE IS THAT WITHIN THE AREA PLANS IS A POLICY TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EMERGING LAND USES AND THAT WE USE THAT AS A FOUNDATION FOR OUR REGULATIONS SO AROUND THINGS LIKE DATA CENTERS WE'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT VAPE SHOPS ETC. SOME OF THESE EMERGING LAND USES THAT 510 YEARS AGO WE COULD NOT HAVE PREDICTED BY HAVING THIS ADOPTED WE NOW HAVE THE POLICIES IN PLACE TO THEN TAKE THE NEXT STEP. WE HAVE HAD STAFF RESEARCHING DATA CENTERS. WE'VE ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH OTHER CITIES TOP 30 CITIES TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING, HOW ARE THEY IMPACTED AND WILL BE READY TO START THAT WORK AS SOON AS WE CLOSE OUT THIS WORK AND START BRINGING BEFORE YOU YOU KNOW, WITH YOURS REFERRAL AND SUPPORT KIND OF WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE CAN DO WITHIN STATE STATUTE AND HOW CAN WE LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT OF DATA CENTERS THROUGH EXISTING STATUTE? >> SO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE LIKE FOR THE REGULATIONS BECAUSE IT'S ONE THAT ONE THING HAVING A POLICY BUT WHERE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD IS THE IMPLEMENTATION AND REGULATIONS, RIGHT? >> I WOULD SAY LET US GET THE GRANT. I THINK WE'RE WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY WITH THE GROUNDWORK. I WOULD SAY 3 TO 6 MONTHS YOU'LL START SEEING SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE MOVING IN. WE REALLY AGAIN THE STATE LANDSCAPE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND WHAT WE CAN DO KIND OF WITHIN OUR BOUNDS SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. SO I WOULD SAY 3 TO 6 MONTHS YOU'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'RE TIMING THIS WITH OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE TEXT AMENDMENT WHICH INCLUDES POLICY IN IT IS END OF SUMMER SCHEDULE. SO I WOULD LOOK TO ALIGN TO THAT. SO IN THE SUMMER WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU KNOW AND THEN IT FOLLOWS SAME PROCESS AS ANY TEXT AMENDMENT A HEARING AND THEN AN ADOPTION. >> SO I APPRECIATE THAT TIMELINE. MONICA I KNOW OTHER CITIES IN NORTH CAROLINA WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THEY HAVE PUT PAUSE ON ANY DATA CENTER PROPOSAL UNTIL THEY GET SOME SORT OF REGULATIONS IN THE BOOK AND CAN WE EXPLORE THAT OPTION BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS DATA CENTERS COMING SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE ARE HEARING LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THESE DATA CENTERS ARE COMING IN ESPECIALLY IN CRESCENT AREAS AND I'M SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST I MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST THAT WE SEE. SO UNTIL WE SEE SOME SORT OF REGULATIONS, WE NEED TO HAVE A PAUSE ON SOME OF THIS REQUESTS THAT ARE COMING IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MASSIVE IMPACT WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTRIC GRID ENERGY USAGE, WATER IMPACT, QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS THIS NOISE 24 SEVEN THAT HUMMING NOISE AND THESE ARE SOME REAL CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AND I'VE HEARD THAT FROM COMMUNITY AS WELL. >> WE NEED TO URGENTLY LOOK AT DATA CENTERS AND HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY WE HAVE REGULATIONS IN THE BOX BECAUSE ONCE WE APPROVE IT IT WILL BE TOO LATE BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ONCE IT'S APPROVED AND THERE WILL BE IRREVERSIBLE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON THE COMMUNITIES THOSE DATA CENTERS GOING AND SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER DISCUSS WITH THE ATTORNEYS OFFICE. SURE. IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IN NEXT WEEK'S MEMO. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. COUNCIL MEMBER MAYFIELD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM MONICA THANK YOU FOR SLOWING DOWN. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN US APPROVING ALL OF THE PLANS AT ONE TIME. I CLEARLY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. I AM THANKFUL THAT COMMUNITY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONVERSATION. I DO AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM COMMUNITY AROUND STILL BERRY ACRES WE SAY WE WANT AGENT IN PLACE BUT IT HAS BEEN OUR LANGUAGE OVERRIDE NUMBER OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD THAT HAS ALLOWED FOR MANUFACTURING THAT IS MOVING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL HOMES. WE'VE BEEN DEALING WHERE WE HAD OLD LANGUAGE FROM 2007 AROUND DATA CENTERS. WE SAY THAT THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT THE MOMENT THE DATA CENTER OPENED UP IN UPTOWN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO START LOOKING AT THAT LANGUAGE. NOW THERE SHOULD NOT LEAST THERE'S WE SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED NOW ABOUT THE WHAT IFS WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT THE MOMENT THAT A DATA CENTER WAS APPROVED BY WHITE AND UPTOWN AND WE REALIZED THAT OUR LANGUAGE WAS NOT ADEQUATE FOR HOW DATA CENTERS I USE TODAY MANAGER JONES AS YOU ARE OUR REPRESENTATIVE IN THIS STAFF THIS IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO. I HOPE YOU ARE HEARING FROM MEMBERS OF YOUR COUNCIL THAT WE WERE NOT. WE WILL PREFER NOT TO SEE THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF PROPOSAL WITHOUT US HAVING THE CLEAR LANGUAGE IN PLACE OF WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE BECAUSE WE HAVE A CAP PROGRAM. WELL ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE IS A PART OF THAT CONSTANT HUMMING IS A CHALLENGE I'VE REACHED OUT TO DIRECTOR OF I REACHED OUT TO DIRECTOR ANGELA AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION MONTHS AGO REGARDING OKAY DATA CENTER COMES YOU NEED TO HAVE A INTERNAL COOLING SYSTEM AND INTERNAL RECYCLING SYSTEM. HOW DO WE MAKE THIS CONCEPT HABITABLE FOR YOU NOT TO TAP INTO OUR WATER WHEN WE JUST CREATED OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH GASTONIA AND OPEN UP WATER ? >> SO AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY FINALLY SAYING YES TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US, I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE IF THIS IS DONE WITH A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND FULL DISCLOSURE I AM WEARY OF ALL OF YOU BASED OFF THE FACT THE CONTRACTS WERE NOT DONE THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. WE GOT IN A DOG ON EVERY DISTRICT SO I AM WEARY OF ALL IN ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT I'M NOT INVITING I AM GOING TO HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY STILL BERRY ACRES IS GOING TO BE PROTECTED BASED OFF THE LANGUAGE I LANGUAGE THAT CAME FROM MOUNT HOLLY MOUNTAIN ISLAND LAKE AREA FROM THE WEST SIDE AS WELL WEST BOULEVARD AREA. THE CORRIDORS JOE CREEK BUT ALSO THAT DATA CENTER IMPLEMENTATION INVESTMENT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS IS GOING TO NOT MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE HAVE VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE OF WHAT THE EXPECTATION. THANK YOU MANAGER JONES COUNCIL MEMBER JD THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM THANK YOU MONICA FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> I JUST HAVE TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES COUNCIL MEMBER FROM HERE AND COUNCIL MAY FEEL ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS. I MEAN THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE US IN DISTRICT FIVE ALTHOUGH NOT A I HYPERSCALE DATA DATA CENTER THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS IT'S A TELECOMMUNICATIONS ONE SMALLER IN SCALE SMALL SIZE. REGARDLESS THOUGH IT IS A DATA CENTER RIGHT AND IF WE REZONE THAT THEN THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY REGARDLESS OF ALL THE COMMUNITY PLANS A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND PLANS AND WHATNOT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THAT USAGE IN THE FUTURE RIGHT? SO IT EVEN IF THERE'S ANY CONDITIONS ATTACHED TO IT SO I ,I JUST REALLY WANT TO IMPLORE STAFF AND COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK HOW DO WE COUPLE OR THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANS THAT ARE ABOUT TO BE ADOPTED WITH OUR LANGUAGE AND INTENTION OF HOW WE ADDRESS DATA CENTERS PARTICULAR EARLY WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS? WE DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF THEM RIGHT NOW BUT WE ARE SEEING CASES COME FROM OREGON AND COME FROM OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE DEMONSTRATED AWFUL HEALTH ,HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND IF YOU HAVE A NEAR A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS VERY CONCERNING AND ALSO YOU KNOW FOLKS TALK ABOUT DATA CENTERS LIKE IT'S THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IT EMPLOYS 2 TO 5 PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT MANY PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN A DATA CENTER. AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO IMPLORE THAT. AND ALSO YOU KNOW, I NOT RELATED TO COMMUNITY OR PLANT PLANS AND I KNOW IT'S SUPER LATE BUT SINCE WE'RE ON THE CONVERSATION I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT FIVE ABOUT THIS DATA CENTER REOPENING. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING A LOOK IN TO THAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE TEAM AND PARTICULARLY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL THAT ADVOCATED TO SLOW THIS DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT IT RIGHT. I KEEP SAYING AND I WAS TALKING TO OTHER FOLKS TODAY IT IS A LIVING AND BREATHING DOCUMENT BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SLOWING DOWN AND REALLY, REALLY LEANING INTO SMART GROWTH AND SMART DEVELOPMENT JUST LIKE I SAID ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF IT RIGHT? WE CAN'T BUILD OUR WAY TO JUST KEEP UP WITH GROWTH AND THE PACE OF GROWTH IN HOW FAST WE'RE GROWING IF IT'S NOT COUPLED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES AND SERVICES AND CREATING HIGH OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY A DISADVANTAGE LIKE THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO GROW IN THE CITY BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I KNOW THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE AND OTHER PARTNERS CORPORATE PARTNERS LOVE TO THROW THAT NUMBER 157 PEOPLE MOVING TO THE REGION A DAY. WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE HERE? AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT REALLY ENGAGING WITH WITH COMMUNITY AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL ENGAGING WITH DISTRICT FIVE. I KNOW THEY HAD A SEPARATE MEETING AND THANK YOU MONICA FOR GIVING NOT AT FIRST LIKE YOU SCAMMED AT ONE TIME TWO TIMES THREE TIMES TO ENSURE THAT EAST CHARLOTTE HAD A PLAN THAT WOULD REFLECT MORE AMENITIES, MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND MORE MORE HIGH DENSITY IN THE MAIN CORRIDORS. BUT AS WELL AS PRESERVING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENT ALL AND THAT IS WHEN I WHEN I SAY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO YES AND WE CAN DO BOTH TWO TWO SHOOTS CAN BE HELD AT THE SAME TIME. WE CAN RESPECT AND PRESERVE HISTORICAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE CAN ALSO EMBRACE HIGH DENSITY AND MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER OWENS. >> THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM BRIEFLY I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AND JUST INSPIRE US ALL TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND WITH RESPECT TO TWO DATA CENTERS AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT I THINK THAT YOU ARE ALL OUT OF LINE WITH YOUR CONCERNS. I WILL JUST SAY THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT IS HERE. I'VE HEARD TIME AND AGAIN AS WE TURN TO OUR WORKFORCE AND PARTICULARLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG FOLKS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM LEAN INTO AN ECONOMY THAT IS COMING IN, AN ECONOMY THAT IS GOING TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DISRUPTION BECAUSE OF AI AND SO I WANT TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THAT FACT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR HOMES. I AM ENCOURAGING US TO BE CREATIVE IN HOW WE INSPIRE THEM TO BUILD IN A MANNER THAT IS REUSING WATER OR YOU KNOW, BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR ROOFS OR ALL THE MYRIAD THINGS THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO TO OFFSET SOME OF THE SOME OF THE COSTS OF OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT WE'VE ALL EXPRESSED. YOU KNOW, WE I'VE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN DISTRICT SIX RECENTLY ON THESE DATA CENTERS AND THEY'RE ATTENDING THESE MEETINGS AND THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE VERY AMPED UP BUT THEY'RE ALSO APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT AND I THINK DEREK THOMPSON IN HIS BOOK ABUNDANCE SAID IT BEST WAS YOU KNOW, WE ARE AT RISK IF WE DO A MORATORIUM ON THESE THINGS THAT THEY ALL GO OFFSHORE. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A REAL RISK TO THAT AS A COUNTRY. AND I JUST WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO PERHAPS DO A BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE ON THE ISSUE OF DATA CENTERS AND NOT TO BE AS REACTIVE AS OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE BEING BECAUSE I DO THINK WE NEED TO PLAY TO WHERE THE PUCK IS GOING AND AI IS HERE AND DATA CENTERS NEED TO LIVE SOMEPLACE. >> SO I'M JUST I'M PUTTING OUT THERE I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD BE IN RESIDENTIAL. YEAH THAT'S THE BORING THAT'S THE POINT IT'S THE RESIDENT I DON'T WANT THEM ALL OFFSITE EITHER. I DON'T WANT THE UNITED STATES TO SUDDENLY GO NO DATA CENTERS AND THEN ALL OF OUR DATA IS BEING HOUSED IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND WE ALL SEE THAT THAT'S A TUMULTUOUS TIME. SO I'VE SAID THANK YOU. >> I'M YEAR TO COUNCIL MEMBER ASMIR YES I THINK COUNCILMEMBER OWENS RAISED AN IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT JUST OVERALL SECURITY AND THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ARE CLOSE TO NATURE PRESERVE AND THERE ARE IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES AND THEY ARE IN THE CRESCENT AREA NOT IN THE WEDGES THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM. THEY ARE GOING TO SEE CONCENTRATION. WE ARE GOING WE ARE SEEING CONCENTRATION IN CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY AND THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING FROM COMMUNITIES AND SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT AS ORGANIZED AS COMMUNITIES ARE IN THE WEDGES AND THERE IS AN EQUITY ISSUE. THERE IS ALSO AN ISSUE AROUND BEING SO CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WE WOULDN'T HOW HAVE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL? WELL DATA CENTERS ARE NO EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS THIS 24 SEVEN HUMMING NOISE AND WHY THIS DATA CENTER IS GENERATING MILLIONS IN ECONOMIC REVENUE. THEY ARE PASSING THE COST OF ECONOMIC ELECTRIC CITY WATER USAGE TO CONSUMERS. THAT'S LIKE SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES. I AGREE IN TERMS OF HAVING SOLAR SYSTEM OR RECYCLED WATER OR COOLING SYSTEMS IN PLACE BUT LET'S ADDRESS NO DATA CENTERS IN RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES BECAUSE NO ONE DESERVES TO LIVE NEXT TO DATA CENTERS. THERE IS GENERATING 24 SEVEN HUMMING NOISE JUST BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN OTHER DISTRICTS OR IN THE LARGE I MEAN IN THE CRESCENT AREA. >> THANK YOU. SO JUST ONE THING. >> THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY I HOPE THAT THAT MY TENURE ON HERE HAS ALREADY SHOWN I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SOMETHING IN ONE OF YOUR DISTRICTS IF I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR IT IN MINE. SO I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU KNOW, SIX AND SEVEN ARE EXCLUDED FROM MY THOUGHTS WITH RESPECT TO THIS ISSUE. SO THANK YOU AND COUNCILMEMBER JD I'M SO SORRY I JUST ALSO WANT TO IMPLORE OUR COUNCIL TO ALSO YOU KNOW I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER OWENS BECAUSE I WAS IN THAT SAME CONVERSATION AND RIGHT SECURITY IS A HUGE ISSUE AND IF WE'RE OFFSHORING DATA CENTERS TO OTHER COUNTRIES WITH OUR PERSONAL DATA THAT IS VERY CONCERNING. THAT BEING SAID TO COUNCILMEMBER SHAMIR'S POINT, YOU KNOW THAT THEY HAVE CONSEQUENCES IN AN AREAS THAT WE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I THINK PERHAPS NOT A MORATORIUM THAT BANS DATA CENTER BUT REALLY PROVIDING THAT POLICY LANGUAGE OF LIKE HOW DO WE HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT IMPACTING THE COST OF WATER RIGHT. ENVIRONMENTAL RESIDENTIAL IMPACTS ETC.. RIGHT. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE DIALOG THAT MY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SAYING BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A BOOMING INDUSTRY THAT THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S TELECOMMUNICATIONS OR A.I. OR WHAT HAVE YOU. DATA CENTERS ARE BOOMING SO WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SMART AND CREATIVE ABOUT THE SOLUTION WE'RE PROVIDING TO TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BUT ALSO TO THE SECURITY OF OUR DATA. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE. A GREAT CONVERSATION. AND WE TURN IT BACK OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER JAKES WHO HAS TWO MORE MOTIONS TO MAKE. >> SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE? YEAH, GOING TO MAKE A MOTION WE HAVE A WEEKEND FOR MAYO AND SECOND BY DRE. I NEED TO VOTE ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. LET IT BE KNOWN TO SAY AND I RAISE YOUR HAND AND POLLS OKAY . CALCIUM RODRIGUEZ MOTION NUMBER TWO. >> WOW. I I CAN SAY WOW. GUYS SO AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WE JUST DID TO ADOPT THOSE PLANS WE NOW NEED TO AMEND THE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED PLANS IN ORDER TO INCORPORATE THE CHANGES THAT EVOLVED FROM OUR DISCUSSION OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SO I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. >> OH YEAH. LET'S GO COME ON I MOVE TO AMEND THE FOLLOWING COMMUNITY AREA PLANS WITH STAFF'S PROPOSED CHANGES THE SECOND I GET THAT MOTION SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER OWNS FREEDOM. >> YEAH. YOU GOT TO READ IT. YOU GOT IT. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THE AREA PLANS ARE NORTHEAST INNER EAST INNER SOUTH. MIDDLE OF SOUTH OUTER SOUTHWEST OUTER SOUTHWEST. >> MIDDLE AND SOUTH INNER SECOND AGAIN OKAY THEN THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER OWNS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALTHOUGH OPPOSE MR. DRAKE MOTION NUMBER THREE AND FINALLY RECEIVER MOTION NUMBER THREE IS TO ADOPT THE REVISED POLICY MAP TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AREA PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED AND AMENDED TONIGHT. >> AND SECOND, THAT MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MADRID SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER OWENS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ALL THE POLLS. OKAY. I HAVE A PRO TEM. >> IF I COULD JUST SAY MS.. HOLMES. MS. CORNETT. MS.. MAHONEY, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU WORKED SO HARD AND WE'RE IN BUDGET SEASON. >> I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND A PAY INCREASE MOTION OF ALL SO TONIGHT'S CITY COUNCIL WE ALSO MAKE NOMINATIONS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSION. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBMITTED THEIR NOMINATIONS EARLIER TO THE TO THE CLERK VIA EMAIL. NAMES OF NOMINEES WOULD NOT BE READ AT THE DAIS TOMORROW THE CLERK WILL EMAIL CITY COUNCIL THE NAMES OF APPLICANTS THAT HAVE RECEIVED AT LEAST TWO NOMINATIONS THIS CANDIDATES WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR APPOINTMENT AT THE NEXT BUSINESS MEETING. HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS ANY APPLICANT RECEIVING SIX OR MORE NOMINATIONS CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR AN APPOINTMENT TONIGHT UPON A MOTION AND THE SECOND AND MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL CITY CLERK CAN YOU NOW PROCEED ANNOUNCE THE RESULTS OF THE NOMINATIONS? >> YES SIR. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL I WISH TO SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS OF YOUR NOMINATIONS TONIGHT. I MIGHT ADD THAT ALL OF THE ADVISORY BOARDS EVERYONE RECEIVED AT LEAST SIX NOMINATIONS SO AT THE CONCLUSION OF MY SHARING THIS INFORMATION IF YOU SO CHOOSE YOU MAY MAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND VOTE TO APPOINT THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR THE BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. BOBBY RIEGER RECEIVED SIX NOMINATIONS ALSO FOR THE BUSINESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE ASIAN AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. I BE OBJECT CHANDY THE INCUMBENT RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS AND FOUR REPRESENTING THE LATIN AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. MY DEAR ARANA RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHARLOTTE BUSINESS INCLUSION ADVISORY COMMITTEE JERAMY JOHNSON RECEIVED EIGHT NOMINATIONS. AS FOR THE AT-LARGE POSITION FOR THE POSITION RECOMMENDED BY THE BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FITZGERALD LITE, THE SECOND RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHARLOTTE INTERNATIONAL CABINET. MAX WILL IWE RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMITTEE. MARTIN AN AVERAGE RECEIVED 11 BRANDY BARON RECEIVED TEN AND JAMES MELLO EXCUSE ME JAMES BELLO RECEIVED NINE AND ALSO RAY HOLLOW GORDON RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD MATCHING GRANTS. BREE CARLSON RECEIVED TEN NOMINATIONS AND THE INCUMBENT DESTINY CRAWFORD IN JEFFREY SIMPSON BOTH INCUMBENTS RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS AND FOR THE NONPROFIT OR NONPROFIT SECTOR REPRESENTATIVE ME NEW COLLINS AND ZEPHYR RECEIVE 11 NOMINATIONS AND FOR THE INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDED BY THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT LETITIA HENSLEY, THE INCUMBENT RECEIVED 11 NOMINATIONS MOVE TO APPOINT ALL APPLICANTS WHO RECEIVED SIX OR MORE NOMINATIONS. >> SECOND, THE MOVE TO PROMPT THE SACK OF A COUNCIL MAJORITY SECOND WITH COUNCILWOMAN MAYFIELD. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND TELL US ALL THOSE OPPOSE BY ACCLAMATION. WE HAVE APPOINTED THOSE. >> OKAY, CITY ATTORNEY THANK YOU. YOU MAY HAVE HIM. THE MOTION IS TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO YOU IN CDF 140 3-3 18.11 EIGHT THREE TO PRESERVE THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN THE MATTER OF MICHAEL AND CHRISTY CARNEY VERSUS CITY OF CHARLOTTE FILE NUMBER THREE DASH 22 300659 AND PURSUANT TO INCREASE 143 U.S. FOUR 18.11 EIGHT FOUR TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATING TO THE LOCATION OR EXPANSION OF INDUSTRIES OR OTHER BUSINESSES IN CHARLOTTE INCLUDING AGREEMENT ON A TENTATIVE LIST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE THAT MAY BE OFFERED BY THE PUBLIC BODY IN NEGOTIATIONS TO MOVE THE MOVE BY COUNCILMEMBER JD SEGMENT COUNCILMEMBER DRIGGS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY I. I. I GET THERE YOU GO. YOU JUST I YEAH. >> THANK YOU ALL SO WE USE THIS