>>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, JULY 10 AND THE GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS 2:01 P.M., I'M SARA NELSON, CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE. WILL THE CLAUSHG CALL THE ROLL. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON? >> HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> HERE. CHAIR NELSON? >> PRESENT. >> FIVE PRESENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S SEE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIVA RIVERA IS JOINING US REMOTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. THE FIRST IS A DISCUSSION OF RESOLUTION 321, BASICALLY IT'S A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A SUITE OF INVESTMENTS IN BROADLY SPEAKING TREATMENT SERVICES. NEXT WE HAVE A REPORT OF THE OFFICE OF THE CITY AUDITOR ON THE STATUS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PUT FORWARD ACROSS A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THEIR VARIOUS AUDIT REPORTS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THE DIANIAL -- EVERY TWO YEARS WE UPDATE OUR COUNCIL RULES AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING PROPOSED UPDATES TO OUR COUNCIL RULES AND WE WILL HAVE THE PROPOSED VOTE ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. SEEING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD CLERK, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY? >> WE HAVE THREE IN PERSON AND FOUR REMOTE. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO WITH THE IN PERSON COMMENTERS FIRST AND EVERYONE CAN HAVE TWO MINUTES, THANK YOU. >> I WILL CALL ON SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER OF WHICH THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK STARTING WITH IN PERSON COMMENTERS. SPEAKERS WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. WHEN YOU HEAR THE CHIME, YOU WILL HAVE 10 SECONDS LEFT. IF YOU EXCEED THE TIME, YOUR TIME MAY BE CUT OFF. IF YOU ARE PROVIDING REMOTE COMMENT, BE SURE TO HIT STAR SIX. OUR FIRST IN PERSON SPEAKER IS ALEX ZIMMERMANN. >> SEEING HIEL MY DIRTY NAZI FASCIST PIGS. MOY NAME IS ALEX INTRIMERMAN. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT STATEMENT BUT THE BIG CUT FOR ELECTION. I WANT TO THINK ABOUT NUMBER THREE, RULES. TEN YEARS AGO, YOU CHANGED YOUR RULES, NAZI GES STOPO RULES. SO YOU GIVE ME 18 TRESPASSES FOR 1500 DAYS. FOR FIVE YEARS I CANNOT COME AND SPEAK ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION. IT IS CRITICAL ABSOLUTELY. WHO DID THIS? IT IS VERY INTEREST BECAUSE FASCISM AS WE COVER IT NOW GOING PROGRESS. RIGHT NOW, TEN YEAR AGO, THIS BRINGS US JULY. I REMEMBER THIS WELL. SO TEN YEARS LATER YOU HAVE FOR 40 YEARS NEVER HAVE ONE AND CLOSED SEVENTH FLOOR. IN MY STATEMENT, WHAT DOES CARL DO FOR LAST FOUR YEARS? FASCISM GROW BIGGER AND BIGGER. IT IS NOT ONLY FASCIST, IT IS GESTAPO RULE. MORE DANGEROUS THAN N AN AZI OR COMMIE. HOW IS THIS YOU EXIST FOR 30 YEARS? THIS IS 370 CARE SENT OUT IN TOTAL LIKE SUPPOSED TO BE. WHEN YOU DON'T DOING THIS, IT WILL BE FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS. NO ONE FASCISM IN EUROPE AND SOUTH AMERICA EXISTS FOR MANY YEAR AND YOUR GESTOPO RULES THAT AREGRESSIVE FOR 30 YEARS AND WILL EXIST FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS. 730,000 NOT STAND UP. VIVA NEW AMERICA, VIVA REVOLUTION. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ESTER LOSERO. >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. WOW, I FEEL LIKE A SMUDGE AFTER THAT ONE, SORRY ABOUT THAT. I AM THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE SEATTLEAL AIRPORT. LATINA ON MY DAD SIDE. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN SUPPORT TO COUNCILMEMBER SARA NELSON'S RESOLUTION SFCHLT PATHWAY TO RECOVERY IS KEY TO GETTING UPSTREAM TO THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS, SUBSTANCE USE AND MENTAL HEALTH. IT IS ABOUT TIME WE DECONSTRUCTED THE INTERSECTION OF THOSE THREE COMPONENTS. THE SEATTLE HUMANE HEALTH BOARD, WE OPERATED 65 BED TREATMENT FACILITY ON RAINIER BEACH. WE HAD TO CLOSE BECAUSE OF A TERRIBLE BUILDING. WE ARE REOPENING THUNDERBIRD FACILITY NEXT YEAR. IT WILL BE 92 BEDS WITH 15 BEDS DEDICATED TO PARENTING PEOPLE. WE RECENTLY DECIDED TO ADD A CLINIC TO THAT FACILITY SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MEDICALLY ASSISTED TREATMENT AND WRAP AROUND SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND OUT PATIENT, INTENSIVE OUT PATIENT. FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE SEATTLE INDIAN HEALTH BOARD IS HERE TO INCREASE CAPACITY TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF SEATTLE CITIZENS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL TO SOLVE THESE CHALLENGES. THE FINAL THING I WILL SAY IS I IMPLORE YOU, WHEN THIS RESOLUTION PASSES TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INVEST IN CAPACITY THAT ALREADY EXISTS SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE CAPACITY AND NOT NEW INFRASTRUCTURE. IF YOU WORK WITH US AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE WILL GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER, I DO WANT TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I DO SUPPORT THAT INVESTMENT. IN FACT I TRIED TO GET THAT INTO OUR 2025 BUDGET. IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE CHAIR'S PACKAGE BUT I THINK THE INFORMATION I READ WAS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDING 25% OR 80% OF THE CAPACITY THE RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY? 80%. >> OUR NEXT IN PERSON SPEAKER IS ANDREA SUAREZ. >> HELLO, ANDREA SUAREZ FOR WE HEART SEATTLE. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT YOU PRESIDENT NELSON ON YOUR RESOLUTION FOR PACTWAYS TO RECOVERY. THIS IS A HISTORICAL MOMENT TO BE HERE AS A NEW PROVIDER, PRIVATE FUNDED WITH OLD GUARD AND MY COLLEAGUES TO MY RIGHT. THAT WE NEED A FOCUS IN THIS AREA AND HOW WE GET THERE IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE. I WOULD LOVE TO BE AT THAT TABLE WITH THIS GROUP ON HOW WE DISTRIBUTE THAT MONEY. IN SAN FRANCISCO THEY ADOPTED A POLICY WHERE SAFER SMOKING SUPPLIES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO BE DISTRIBUTED IN PUBLIC SPACES LIKE SCHOOLS OR SIDEWALKS. I'M HERE TO ASK INCREMENTALLY RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THE CULTURE IN SEATTLE FROM A DRUG FRIENDLY CULTURE WHERE WE INVITE PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND USE DRUGS IN THE OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS, FUELLED BY A LOT OF THE CORRUPTION RELATED TO THINGS LIKE FOOD STAMP CARDS AND YOU KNOW, THIS BOTTOMLESS PIT WE HAVE. THERE IS NO ROCK BOTTOM IN SEATTLE BECAUSE WE MAKE IT FRIENDLY TO GET HIGH HERE. I'M HOLDING HERE METHAMPHETAMINE PIPES AND FOIL THAT ARE HANDED OUT TOGETHER AT THE KING COUNTY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AT FOURTH AND BLANCHARD WE ARE HANDING IT OUT STREET SIDE. MUTUAL AID, PEOPLE'S HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE ARE HANDING OUT THE TOOLS TO SMOKE LETHAL DRUGS AND FENTANYL HAS CHANGED THE GAME. THIS IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE TO STOP HANDING OUT TOURNIQUETS AND PIPES AND FOILS AND COOKERS. I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES TO STOP DOING THAT WITHIN THE LOW BARRIER HOUSING. IT'S NOT WORKING. I DON'T HATE THE PLAYER. I HATE THE GAME. I HATE THAT YOU HAVE A FENTANYL SMOKING SHOP IN THE BACK OF THE HOTEL. I RESPECT T YOU, THE COLLEAGUE BUT I CAN'T GET BEHIND THAT. I TOURED THE KENNEDY HOUSE AT THE DEFC, THE CARPETS ARE PITCH BLACK, RATS, RODENTS, BUGS, WE NEED TO FIX WHAT WE HAVE AND STOP THE ENDLESS -- . >> THANK YOU. THAT IS OUR LAST IN PERSON SPEAKER. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO REMOTE COMMENT. IF YOU ARE OFFERING REMOTE COMMENT, PLEASE BE SURE TO PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. OUR FIRST COMMENTER IS ANDREW CONSTANTINEO. PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX, YOU MAY BEGIN. >> HI, I'M ANDREW CONSTANTANO, AN OUTREACH WORKER DOWNTOWN. I'M CALLING FOR SUPPORT OF THE EXPANDED TREATMENT SERVICES OF ALL KINDS USING THE SALES TAX. ALL DAY AT WORK, I'M IN THE STREETS HAVING INTENSE, HEARTBREAKING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE TRAPPED IN ADDICTION ON OUR CITY STREETS. I SEE THE EFFECT IT HAS ON THEIR BODY, MINDS, AND IDENTITY. MOST ADICTS I CONNECT WITH HATE FENTANYL. THEY REALIZE IT IS POISONING THEIR BODIES AND THEY ARE DESPERATE TO STOP BUT THE ADDICTION HAS THEM PARALYZED. WHEN THEY USE, THEY CAN BARELY STAND OR SPEAK AND WHEN THEY ARE IN WITHDRAWAL, IT IS SO INTENSE THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE IT STOP. AS A FORMER OPIATE ADDICT MYSELF, PEOPLE CAN RECOVER AND MY BIGGEST REGRET IS THAT I DIDN'T SEEK TREATMENT SOONER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT REMOTE SPEAKER IS JOECUSELER. >> HI, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL TODAY. I WAS HAPPILY ABLE TO JUMP OFF THE SOUND TRANSIT CALL TO CALL UP HERE. I'M LOOK UNDERSTAND YOU ARE LOOKING AT COUNCIL RULES. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT RESIDENT COUNCIL RULES. THEY HAVE A PRESET ZONE. THEY HAVE BANNED THIS IMMIGRANT FOR SIX MONTHS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE SPOKEN TO THE WAY HEUERMANN SPEAKS TO YOU. THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE ARE WASTING YOUR TAX MONEY FUNDING ZIMMERMANN'S CAMPAIGN AGAINST BELLEVUE JEWS, MUSLIMS, AND DISABLED PEOPLE FOR STARTERS. THE PEOPLE IN THIS REGION SHOULD REALLY QUESTION WHETHER TO COME TO SEATTLE OR MAYBE IT IS TIME TO MOVE TO REDMOND, YOU KNOW? BECAUSE I'M GETTING REALLY SICK AND TIRED OF EVERY TIME I SEE PUBLIC COMMENT THERE IS A CREEP WITH NAZI SLURS AND HATEFUL RHETORIC. I THINK IT IS BENEATH THE PRESIDENT'S CALLING, THE MAYOR TO ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE FOR ONE MORE DAY. BY THE WAY, EVERY TIME ZIMMERMANN CAMPAIGNS, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO KICK HIM OUT. THAT'S RCW. LET ME CALL THE RCW BECAUSE I'M MAKING A COMPLAINT ABOUT BELLEVUE. YOU NEED TO STOP ZIMMERMANN, PLEASE, BAN HIM LIKE THE GREAT PRESIDENT GONZALEZ DID FOR A YEAR AT A TIME , TWICE. PLEASE, I'M ASKING NICELY. I'M GOING TOHANG UP AND TURN TO THE YOUTUBE SEATTLE CHANNEL. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. PLEASE BAN ZIMMERMANN. PLEASE BAN HATE SPEECH. PLEASE BAN THIS KIND OF GARBAGE WE DON'T DESERVE. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT REMOTE SPOKER IS ALBERTO ALVAREZ. >> THANK YOU. RECOVERY IS A JOURNEY NOT A LIFE SWITCH. IT CAN TAKE PEOPLE MONTHS OR YEARS FOR A HEALTHY LEVEL OF STABILITY. EVEN THEN, RELAPSE CAN AND DOES OCCUR. WHAT IS NEEDED IS LONGTERM SHELTER, COMBINED WITH CRISIS SUPPORT. PROGRAMS THAT DETOX FOR A SHORT TIME ONLY TO KICK PATIENTS OUT AT THE FIRST SIGN OF RELAPSE PUT PEOPLE ON A DANGEROUS PATH. RELAPSE WITH NO HELP IS OFTEN MORE DISRUPTIVE AND SADLY ALSO DEADLY. FUNDING PROGRAMS WHO SAY THEY ONLY WANT A PIECE OF THE PIE AND TO CHERRY PICK PATIENTS TO HELP ARE NOT THE PROGRAMS WE NEED TO GIVE MONEY TO. SARA NELSON'S SAELS TAX IS A TERRIBLE IDEA AT A TERRIBLE TIME. MIDDLE CLASS AND WORKING CLASS FAMILIES ALREADY BEAR THE PRICE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. HIGH EXPULSION RECOVERY PROGRAMS ALSO SET PEOPLE UP FOR DANGEROUS RELAPSE. TERRORISTS ARE GUTTING THE AMERICAN WORKER. PEOPLE ARE LOSING FOOD STAMPS, HEALTHCARE, AND A SLEW OF SAFETY NET SERVICES. NELSON THINKS ITS A SMART CHOICE TO TAX PEOPLE FOR MAKING SACRIFICES TO FEED THEMSELVES AND TO KEEP THEIR HOME. MILLIONAIRES LIKE SARA NELSON ARE GETTING THE LARGEST WEALTH INCREASE IN THE LIVING MEMORY AND ASKING THE REST OF US TO FOOT THE BILL. A TERRIBLE IDEA AT A TERRIBLE TIME. HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU. OUR FINAL REMOTE SPEAKER IS DAVID HAINES. >> HI, THANK YOU, DAVID HAINES. IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT COUNCIL WILL NOT STEP UP AND CHAIR THE COMMITTEE FOR THE HUMAN HOUSING SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOMELESS CRISIS. IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS WITH LIKE INNOVATIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE APPROACHES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU MUST INCORPORATE THE REGIONAL RESPONSE FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL TO BUILD AND PAY FOR THE CAPACITY NEEDED AND THE QUALIFIED SERVICE PROVIDERS WITH THE COURT ORDERED LOW SECURITY CONSCRIPTION TO FIGHT THE ADDICTION WITHOUT THE DRUG ADDICTS ROAMING AROUND AFTER THEY GET RELEASED FROM THE CLINIC, STILL DEHYDRATED, STILL BRAIN AND BODY DAMAGED, DYING OF STARVATION WITHOUT ANY FOOD. IT SEEMS THERE WOULD BE SOMEONE TO PICK THEM UP AND TAKE THEM TO AN ENCAMPMENT THAT COULD BE BUILT BY THE NATIONAL GUARD IN 72 HOURS WITH SECURITY TO KEEP THEM PROTECTED FROM THE DRUG CULTURE THAT YOU ARE NOT ADDRESSING WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY. WE HAVE HAD EVIL DRUG PUSHERS THAT HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED FROM JAIL UNTIL RECENTLY. IF YOU HAD LESS THAN 3.5 GRAMS, AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND OTHERS HAVE TRAINED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT REALITY THAT EVERYONE HAS TO BE CONSIDERED A PERSONAL USER. IT HAS RESULTED IN FAILED CRIME FIGHTING RESPONSES. BUT IT HAS PROVEN THAT THE POLICE CHIEF'S AGENDA IS TO GET RICH ON OVERTIME, PROPAGANDIZING IN LAW ABIDING COMMUNITIES AND LAW ABIDING EVENTS HOW SAFE WE ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE AROUND. YET THEY ARE QUICK WITH A BUDGETARY EXCUSE OR SITING MANIPULATIVE DATA THAT PERCEIVES SUCCESS IN SAFETY. YET, EVERY SINGLE DAY, NO ONE CAN GO FROM POINT A TO POIBT B WITHIN THE TRANSIT ORIENTED BUSINESS COMMUNITY WITHOUT BEING SUBJECTED TO LOW LIFE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DEALT WITH PROPER. >> THAT IS OUR FINAL COMMENTER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT LIST. PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. I DO WANT TO NOTE MY PRESSURE TO MR. KUNSLER FOR INDICATING THAT PERHAPS BELLEVUE CONDUCTS PUBLIC COMMENT IN A BETTER WAY AND DISCOURAGES ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR. SO I WILL DEFINITELY TUNE INTO THOSE MEETINGS TO GET SOME TIPS. THERE ARE MANY STEPS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE MET WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ABIDING BY OUR OWN RULES. ALL RIGHT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM ONE INTO THE RECORD? >> AGENDA ITEM ONE, A RESOLUTION SETTING OUT PUBLIC SAFETY RELATING FUNDING PRIORITIES IN ANTICIPATION OF A PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY IMPOSE THE ADDITIONAL ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT SALES TAX AUTHORIZED BY THE 205 STATE LEGISLATURE FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ALL CAN COME ON UP AT THE SAME TIME. WE WILL START WITH THE REPRESENTATION BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO ALL BE UP THERE AT THE TABLE TOGETHER. SO THIS LEGISLATION IS THE PRODUCT OF MONTHS OF STAKE HOLDERING WITH THREE OF THE CITY'S LARGEST HOMELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS. PURPOSE DIGNITY ACTION, P.D.A., DOWNTOWN EMERGENCY SERVICES CENTER WHICH IS D.E.S.C. AND EVERY GREEN TREATMENT SERVICES WHAT I CALL E.T.S. THEY ARE ALL WITH US TODAY AT THE TABLE. TOGETHER WE HAVE DEVELOPED WHAT I'M CALLING A PROGRESSIVE PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS PATHWAYS TO RECOVERY THAT WOULD STABILIZE EXISTING SERVICES AND EXPAND TREATMENT OPTIONS. THE LEGISLATION IDENTIFIED A LONG LIST OF SPECIFIC INVESTMENTS, SOME OF WHICH WE WILL HEAR ABOUT TODAY. I WILL NOTE THAT AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCING THIS LEGISLATION LAST TUESDAY, A WEEK AGO, A DOZEN OR SO PEOPLE REPRESENTING SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOMELESSNESS SERVICE PROVIDERS JOINED THE PEOPLE HERE PRESENTING TODAY AND THAT GROUP INCLUDED SOME OF THE COMMENTERS WE HEARD FROM TODAY. THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT INTENDED TO BE EXCLUSIVE OF THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF APPROACHES IN DEALING WITH ASSOCIATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE IS A DIVERSITY OF APPROACHES THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO THE VERY VEXING AND PERENNIAL AND COMPLICATED ISSUE OF SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER AND WHAT WE WILL BE HEARING ABOUT TODAY IS A LIST OF INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAMMERED OUT TOGETHER BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO APPROACH THIS VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE. LET'S SEE. THE FUNDING FOR WHAT YOU WILL BE HEARING ABOUT TODAY COMES FROM A NEW ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX AUTHORIZED BY THE WASHINGTON STATE LEGISLATURE THIS YOUR. NOTE THAT I AM NOT CALLING FOR AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX BUT MAYOR HARRELL HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN IMPLEMENTING IT BECAUSE IT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT $35 MILLION A YEAR AND COULD FUND NOT JUST POLICE SERVICES BUT ALSO A BROADER RANGE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH INVESTMENTS. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT NOW IS NOT THE RIGHT TIME OR THE APPROPRIATE OR OPPORTUNE TIME AS WE ARE FACING POTENTIALLY A $240 MILLION OPERATING DEFICIT NEXT YEAR AND THAT NUMBER CHANGES EVERY SO OFTEN AND THAT IS ALSO BEFORE THE FEDERAL CUTS THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING COULD BE COMING. MY POINT IS NOW IS NOT WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AN OBVIOUS TIME TO PROPOSE NEW INVESTMENTS. BUT I WILL SUBMIT THAT IT IS AN IMPORTANT TIME. FOR FAR TOO LONG, WE HAVE WATCHED PEOPLE SUFFERING ON OUR STREETS FROM UNTREATED ADDICTION AND MENTAL ILLNESS DETERIORATE BEFORE US. WHEN WE INVEST IN PEOPLE GETTING OFF THE STREET AND INTO TREATMENT, WE PREVENT CRIME, REDUCE EMERGENCY RESPONSES AND MAKE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER. THAT IS NOT JUST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, IT IS THE RIGHT IN FACT FOR NOT A VERY RELIGIOUS PERSON, I WILL GO SO FAR AS TO SAY IT IS THE MORAL THING TO DO. THAT'S WHY WE ARE HEARING THIS SUITE OF INVESTMENTS TODAY. WITH THAT, FIRST WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION -- FIRST I WILL ASK PEOPLE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AT THE TABLE AND THEN WE WILL BEGIN WITH CENTRAL STAFF DIRECTOR NOBLES' PRESENTATION. >> BEN NOBLES, CENTRAL CITY STAFF DIRECTOR. >> BRANDY FLOOD, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY JUSTICE EVERGREEN TREATMENT SERVICES. >> GRANDY McNEIL, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH PURPOSE ACTION. >> LISA DUGUARD AT PURPOSE DIGNITY ACTION. >> DANIEL MALONE, DIRECTOR OF D.E.S.C. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY. GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE RESOLUTION AND WHAT T IT SAYS IF YOU WILL. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THE INTENDED USE OF THE RESOURCES. WITH THAT, WE WILL GET STARTED HERE JUST ONE SECOND. IN TERMS OF AN OUTLINE, I WILL GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE TAX COMES FROM AND SOME OTHER DYNAMICES AROUND SALES TAXES AND A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. ONE THING I PUT HERE ON THE FRONT PAGE TO REITERATE A POINT THAT THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT HAS MADE THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN TO HAVE A SET OF RECOMMENDED USE OF THE DOLLARS THAT COULD COME FROM SUCH A TAX BUT THE RESOLUTION ITSELF DOES NOT TAKE A POSITION ON WHETHER THE TAX SHOULD BE ADOPTED OR NOT. IN ANTICIPATION THAT THE EXECUTIVE MAY PROPOSE SUCH, I BELIEVE IT IS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S VIEW THAT IT SHOULD BE VIEWED IN CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL BUDGET AND OVERALL FINANCIAL SITUATIONS. HAVING SAID THAT, IF IT IS TO BE MOVED FORWARD, THE RESOLUTION IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL PRIORITIES FOR THE USE OF THE RESOURCES. LET ME GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL ON THAT. AGAIN, AS BACKGROUND AND AS WAS MENTIONED IN INTRODICTORY, THE AUTHORITY FOR THIS REVENUE COMES FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE ADOPTED THIS PAST SESSION. IT ADDS FOR BOTH CITIES AND COUNTIES THE AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE A 0.1 SALES TAX FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE PURPOSES. I WILL COME BACK TO THAT IN A BIT. IT IS AN AUTHORITY GRANTED TO CITIES AND COUNTIES BUT NOT IN A COMPETING WAY. THE COUNTY CAN IMPOSE THIS TAX AND THE CITY CAN IMPOSE THE TAX. THE IMPACT WOULD BE 0.2% INCREASE IN THE OVERALL TAX RATE. I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE COUNTY IS CONSIDERING THE SAME PROPOSAL. AGAIN, FOR THE BACKGROUND SEPARATELY, THE CITY HAS HAD LONGSTANDING AUTHORITY TO ASK THE VOTERS TO APPROVE SUCH A SALES TAX AS WELL. IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL REVENUE, CURRENTLY THE REVENUE FROM THE SAELS TAX WE IMPOSE, WE GET ABOUT $313 MILLION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY BUDGET YOU SEE THE REVENUE LINE IS 350 OR A LITTLE MORE. THAT INCHUDZ OUR SHARE OF THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC SAFETY EMS SAELS TAX THAT WE GET A PORTION OF THAT'S WHERE OUR TOTAL COMES FROM. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE 0.1% WOULD GET US BETWEEN 47 AND 37 MILLION A YEAR. IT IS AN A RANGE BUT THERE IS A LITTLE MORE UNCERTAINTY BECAUSE ANOTHER THING THE LEGISLATURE DID THIS PAST SESSION WAS TOADD SOME SERVICES TO THE LIST OF THINGS SUBJECT TO THE SALES TAX. SO THE SALES TAX BASE INCREASES AND REVENUE COULD AFFECT US. BUT BALFURC 37 TO $40 MILLION. WHAT ARE THE AUTHORIZED PURPOSES? CRIMINAL JUSTICE PURPOSES IS DEFINED QUITE BROADLY. THERE IS A LIST HERE , I CAN'T FIX THIS VERSION, THAT'S A TYPO. THE LIST IS MEANT TO BE DIRECT PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES. IF YOU FUND A POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES PUBLIC DEFENDERS, DIVERSION, REENTRY FOR INMATES AND REASONABLE NUMBER OF PEOPLE INTERACTING WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM NOT LIMITED TO REDUCING HOMELESSNESS OR IMPROVING BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WHICH SEEMS ON POINT. COMMUNITY OUT REACH AND ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS, AND MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS. I WILL ALSO NOTE AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE AUTHORITY GRANTED TO THE CITY INCLUDES NO PROHIBITION OF SUBPLANTATION. YOU CAN IMPOSE THE TAX AND USE THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR SERVICES BEING PROVIDED NOW. PART OF THE MOTIVATION WAS TO ENSURE GOVERNMENTS WHO MIGHT FACE LOSSES IN REVENUE WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN EXISTING PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS AS WELL AS EXPANDING. THERE IS NO BARRIER TO SUBPLANTATION. IN TERMS OF TIMING, THIS ONE IS INTERESTING . THE WAY THE SALES TAX WORKS IS THE STATE COLLECTS THE MONEY AND DISTRIBUTES TO RELEVANT GOVERNMENT STATE COUNTY LOCAL CITIES OR OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE SALES TAX AUTHORITY. THEY UPDATE THE SALES TAX EVERY QUARTER INFORMING RETAILERS WHAT THE NEW SALES TAX RATE IS THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO COLLECT. THEY REQUIRE 60 DAY NOTICE TO MAKE THE CHANGE. THE CITY WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FULL YEAR'S WORTH OF THE INCREMENT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PASS THE BILL BEFORE YOU DEALT WITH THE OVERALL BUDGET. WAIT 'TIL YOU SEE THE BUDGET PROPOSAL THAT WILL ARRIVE IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE IT WILL NEED TO BE APPROVED EARLY TO MID OCTOBER. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS THE WAY IT COULD BE PROPOSEDED TO IMPLEMENT ONE QUARTER IN IF THEY HIT A LITTLE LESS REVENUE. NOT NECESSARILY A QUARTER HAVING TO DO WITH THE PATTERN OF SALES TAX. BUT YOU GET THE IDEA. WE ARE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER A PROPOSAL WILL BE MADE OR WHEN. THEN IN TERMS OF THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, AS I DESCRIBE HERE, IT MAKES TWO BASIC POLICY STATEMENTS. ONE IS AGAIN, IN ANTICIPATION OF A POTENTIAL EXEC TF PROPOSAL IT SAYS THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER IMPOSING THIS TAX AS PART OF ITS OVERALL FOR THE BUDGET AND LONGTERM FINANCIAL FOR THE CITY. YOU WILL BE COMMITTING TO CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL IF ONE WERE TO COME FORWARD. AND THIS IS REALLY THE BROADER POINT, IF THE CITY WERE TO IMPLEMENT THE TAX, IT ESTABLISHES THAT UP TO 25% OF THE RESULTING REVENUE SHOULD BE INVESTED IN ADDICTION TREATMENT RECOVERY SERVICES AND THE FACILITIES NEEDED TO PROVIDE SUCH SERVICES. AND THE RESOLUTION FURTHER STATES THAT THE SERVICES SHOULD BE TARGETED TO THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR BEING DIVERTED FROM THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM IT THEN HIGHLIGHTS THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE FUNDED. I THINK I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE LIST. I WILL LET YOU READ IT AND I THINK IT WILL BE THE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION THAT PROCEEDS FROM HERE. BUT AGAIN, A VARIETY OF TREATMENT AND RECOVERY SERVICES IN PARTICULAR. SO THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION DOES. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> DO MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY HANDS UP. OKAY. BACK TO -- I WANTED TO NOTE THAT HB2015 WHICH WAS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX WAS BY REPRESENTATIVENTMAN AND ADVANCED BY THE LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS. AND ENTMAN SAID ABOUT THE BILL SAID ABOUT THE BILL IS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAMS AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY INCLUDE A LARGER DEFINITION OF PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THAT IS MY -- THAT'S SORT OF THE FLASHING GREEN LIGHT THAT SIGNALLED TO ME THAT THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THESE INVESTMENTS ALTHOUGH I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WOULD PROBABLY SAY ON THE RECORD THAT THEY ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF REGRESSIVE TAXES, SALES TAX BEING THE MOST REGRESSIVE ON OUR BOOKS. HOWEVER, IT IS A TOOL THAT WE ARE BEING PRESENTED WITH BY THE LEGISLATURE AND IT IS CLEAR THAT THE INTENTION OF THE SPAUPSER IS THAT IT DOESN'T JUST GO TO THE TRADITIONAL FORM OF PUBLIC SAFETY. LET'S SEE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR PANELIST? OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WHY DON'T WE PROCEED IN THE ORDER THAT THE PANELISTS ARE LISTED ON THE PRESENT -- AS PRESENTERS. SO DANIEL MALONE, DOWNTOWN EMERGENCY SERVICES CENTER CEO AND BOSS. WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE FLOOR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE XHOET. I SHARE THE VIEW THAT REPRESENTATIVENTMA N AND THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE WAS WISE TO INCLUDE IN THEIR DEFINITION OF PUBLIC SAFETY ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE SUBSTANCE ADDICTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE IF IT PROCEEDS WITH IMPLEMENTING THE TAX AUTHORITY THAT THE LEGISLATURE PROVIDED TO DO THE SAME. AND ENHANCE OUR ABILITY AND AVAILABILITY OF TOOLS TO HELP PEOPLE SUFFERING WITH SERIOUS SUBSTPS USE DISORDER ON OUR STREETS. I WANT TO FOCUS IN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS SPECIFICALLY THAT I THINK OUR COMMUNITY WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT FROM HAVING. SO AT THE ORGANIZATION WHERE I WORK, WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO ASSIST PEOPLE WITH REALLY PROFOUND AND COMPLICATED DISABLING CONDITIONS INCLUDING SERIOUS AND PERSISTENT MENTAL ILLNESS AND CHRONIC SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER. WE FIND THAT PROVIDING PEOPLE WITH A STABLE PLACE TO LIVE IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY THING THAT WE MUST DO. WE NEED TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH AN ARRAY OF SUFBSS INCLUDING TREATMENT SERVICES THAT WILL ASSIST THEM ON THIS PATHWAY TO RECOVERY. WE ARE LICENSED TO PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE TREATMENT SERVICES. WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON ARE TREATMENT FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER AND INNOVATIONS IN APPROACHES IN TREATMENTS FOR PEOPLE WITH STIMULANT USE DISORDER. THESE ARE TWO MAJOR COMPOPEANTS OF THE KROIS S WE ARE DEALING WITH TODAY. ON THE OPIOID SIDE, OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE SEEN PARK MARKEDLY IMPROVED SUCCESS IN ASSISTING PEOPLE TO START AND STAY ON MEDICATIONS FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER, SPECIFICALLY THESE ADVANCES ARE IMPROVING OUR ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE USING FENTANYL VERY CHAOTICALLY. ESSENTIALLY THE CHANGES HAVE INVOLVED ADVANCES IN THE PROTOCOL FOR ADMINISTERING BUF NORFRN AND IT IS MORE COMFORTABLE FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE AND THEY ARE LESS OFTEN GOING THROUGH EXTREME WITHDRAWAL THAT MAKES THEM NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN TREATMENT ANYMORE. HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ARE BENEFITTING FROM THIS APPROACH BUT THE NEED IS SO MUCH GREATER. PROGRAMS ARE AT CAPACITY WE HAVE SOME BRIGHT SPOTS ON THE HORIZON IN THAT A NEW OPIOID OVERDOSE RECOVERY CENTER IS ABOUT TO OPEN LATER THIS SUMMER AND THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE CAPACITY. THERE REMAINS A GREAT NEED FOR FIELD BASED SERVICES ON THESE LINES THAT BRING THAT TREATMENT TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE WHEN YOU HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO AREN'T READY TO COME INTO A CLINIC SETTING FOR THAT. THE CITY INVESTING IN THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OVERALL. ON THE STIMULATE USE DISORDER SIDE OF THINGS, THE ARRAY OF TREATMENTS THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE ARE QUITE PALTRY. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR MORE INNOVATION IN THE SPACE. THE CITY COULD BE A REAL LEADER IN HELPING TO CREATE SOME MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION, WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND IS SOME KIND OF PILOT FUNDING FOR ALSO FIELD BASED SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HEAVILY USING METHAMPHETAMINE AND STRUGGLING WITH OVERCOMING THAT AND THE COMPOPEANTS OF THIS KIND OF TREATMENT OUGHT TO INCLUDE AN ARRAY OF THINGS CURRENTLY USED TO AT LEAST SOME MINIMAL EFFECT SUCH AS CONTINGENCY MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING SERVICES AND SUPPORTING PEOPLE TO BE MORE RESILIENT IN NAVIGATING SPACES AND COMMUNITIES WHERE USE IS PREVALENT BUT ALSO TO EXPAND THE USE OF THE OZEMPIC CLASS GLP1 DRUGS THAT SHOW SOME PROMISE FOR POTENTIALLY REDUCING CRAVING AND MAKING SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERIOUS ADDICTION ISSUES ABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON THEIR LIVES WHEN THEY HAVEN'T THUS FAR WITH THE TREATMENTS AVAILABLE. I SUPPORT VERY STRONGLY THE PROPOSAL TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THE MONEY IF THIS TAX IS TO BE ENACTED TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY CAN LEAD ON CREATING THE TOOLS FOR PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION ON THE STREETS, THANK YOU. >> LET'S HOLD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS UNTIL EVERYONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK, JUST NOTE THEM DOWN AS WE GO ALONG. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> I WANT TO BEGIN BY EXPRESSING DEEP APPRECIATION FOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON TFS CONSISTENT LEADERSHIP IN PATHWAYS AND SUPPORT FOR STRATEGIES THAT CAN BE SHOWN TO IMPROVE THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF PEOPLE DEALING WITH ADDITION. WE ARE ALSO EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT MAYOR HARRELL AND MANY ON THE COUNCIL HERE TODAY AND OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE ALSO SHOWN A STRONG COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. THIS COLLECTIVE LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT ARE WHAT ENABLE US TO DISCUSS NOT ONLY THE CHALLENGES WE FACE BUT ALSO THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE. ANY SERIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGY MUST PRIORITIZE HOW WE SPNT TO INDIVIDUALS WITH COMPLEX HEALTH NEEDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE NEEDS ARE CAUSING HARM OR DISTRESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. CONFRONTING IT IS HOW WE BUILD SAFER COMMUNITIES. OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN MEASURABLE SUCCESS FROM EFFORTS THAT TAKE THIS APPROACH SERIOUSLY. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE PARTNERSHIP WITH SPD ON PUBLIC USE DIVERSION. INSTEAD OF JAIL OR PROSECUTION, INDIVIDUALS CONTACTED BY SPD HAVE ACCESS TO A 24/7 HANDOFF TO RESPONSE TEAM THAT CAN CONNECT THEM TO SERVICES. WE ARE INTEGRATING WITH SPD SYSTEMS SO OFFICERS CAN MAKE DIVERSIONS WITHIN THE SYSTEM HAVE GREATER VIZ BABILITY FOR WHO IS ALREADY IN THE PROGRAM AND CONTACT CASE MANAGERS INSTEAD OF CYCLING PEOPLE THROUGH JAILS OR EMERGENCY ROOMS. OTHER PROGRAMS HAVE HAD SUCCESS. JUST CARE INFORMED THE STATE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION PROGRAM. COLEAD CONTINUES TO SHOW REMARGABLE OUTCOMES. OVER 95% OF PARTICIPANTS ACCEPT SERVES. MORE THAN 70% TRANSITION TO PERMANENT HAD HOUSING AND 100% ARE ENROLLED IN MEDICAID. WE HAVE HAD 0 COLEAD PARTICIPANT OVERDOSE DEATHS IN COLEAD LODGING, ZOREO. BECAUSE OF THESE INTERVENTIONS AND EFFORTS BY THOSE AT THE TABLE AND OTHERS, WE ARE SEEING TANGIBLE RESULTS, DECLINING CRIME RATES, A GROWING SENSE AMONG RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT DISORDER IS DECREASING. THE FUNDING THAT THIS RESOLUTION IDENTIFIES COULD BE USED TO ALLOW US TO STABILIZE WHAT IS ALREADY WORKING BY COLEAD, AND ADD NEW PIECES TO ADDRESS THE GAPS THAT REMAIN. THIS FUNDING SHOULD BE USED TO STABILIZE WHAT IS ALREADY WORKING ACROSS THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND ACROSS A VARIETY OF APPROACHES. ONE EXAMPLE OF ADDRESSING SUCH A GAP IS BELOW FRICTION PATHWAY, A PILOT PROGRAM CHAMPIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT NELSON. THIS CREATED A MECHANISM TO IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO PRIVATE PATIENT TREATMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS IN LOW BARRIER PROGRAMS. COLEAD HAS NOMINATED THE LARGEST GROUP TO USE THIS OPTION SO FAR AND NEARLY ALL OF THEM COMPLETED TREATMENT AND ARE STILL DOING WELL. THAT SUCCESS DIDN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE. IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT. COLEAD STAFF BUILDS TRUST AND GET TO KNOW WHO IS INTERESTED AND READY FOR TREATMENT AND SUPPORT THEM BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER PLACEMENT. TREATMENT IS MOST LIKELY TO BE EFFECTIVE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE RECOVERY JOURNEY. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT PROVIDES. NONE OF THIS CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT FUNDING. LAKE SIDE FUNDING IS A PILOT THAT SHOULD BE OPEN TO REFERRALS FOR CONTRACTORS WHO PROVIDE ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT AND CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE FOR WHOM THIS IS A GOOD RESOURCE AND PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THEM AFTER THEY FINISH IN PATIENT TREAT. LEAD AND COLEAD HAVE LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FUNDING OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. WE RISK LOSING WHAT'S WORKING UNLESS WE ACT NOW. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE FULL RANGE OF INVESTMENTS CALLED FOR IN THE RESOLUTION UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY. THIS WORK BELONGS AT THE CENTER OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGY, NOT ON THE MARGINS AND MUST BE FUNDED ACCORDINGLY. >> JUST ADDING A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES TO BRANDY'S COMMENTS, I TOO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WHO HAVE ALWAYS ARTICULATED THIS RECOGNITION THAT ADDRESSING PEOPLE'S NEEDS IS AT THE CORE OF A PUBLIC SAFETY STRATEGY THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY AND IS ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S VALUES AND ALSO EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR THE MAYOR WHO HAS DONE THE SAME. THIS IS ONE OF THE CITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS THE LEAST QUESTIONS ON WHETHER THAT IS TRUE. BUT LIKEMANY, WE ARE CHALLENGED WITH OPERATIONALIZING THAT UNDERSTANDING GIVEN YIELD CONTRAINTS ON RESOURCES THE CITY IS CURRENTLY FACING. WHAT IPLERLY WANTED TO CALL OUT ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION THAT I THINK GETS IT JUST RIGHT AND THIS DID COME AFTER SOME STAKEHOLDERING STRUGGLE AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON MENTIONED IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN STABILIZATION AND INNOVATION. WHEN PEOPLE SAY STABILIZATION, I'M NOT SURER IT IS CLEAR WHAT THAT MEANS. WE HAVE REALLY SLID BACK FROM SOME HIGH POINTS OF INNOVATION AND ACHIEVEMENT DURING THE PERIOD OF COVID RELIEF FUNDING. SOME STEPS FORWARD WERE MADE. IT WAS ALSO THE STATE'S ENCAMPMENT RIGHT OF WAY RESOLUTION PROGRAM FUNDING THAT ALSO ENDED. LARGE TRANSITION OF FUNDING THAT ALLOWED RAPID RECONFIGURATION OF HOW IT WAS POSSIBLE TO RESPOND TO LARGE GROUPS OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS DEALING WITH SUBSTANCE USE ISSUES AND ORT MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS. THESE APPROACHES WORKED AND THEN THE FUNDING WENT AWAY. WHILE THE MODEL REMAINS, THE SCOPE IS GREATLY CONSTRAINED. REALLY, WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE THE END OF CHAPTER PROGRESS THAT WAS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT STABILIZATION. AT THE SAME TIME, AS MANY OF US WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THAT WORK WHICH IS ALL MULTIAGENCY PARTNERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, AS WE WALK ALONG SIDE PARTICIPANTS, WE SEE GAPS THAT NEED TO BE BRIDGE. THE PILOT HAS BEEN ONE GREAT EXAMPLE OF PROBLEM SOLVING. IT DIDN'T TAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND MADE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENCE. THAT ENHANCES THE EFFICACY OF WHAT HAS BEEN TRIED AND NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED. THE OTHER THING I APPRECIATE ABOUT T THE FRAMEWORK OF THE RESOLUTION IS THAT IT IMPLICIT TALLY RECONCILES THE TENSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLUDED TO IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT BETWEEN PHILOSOPHIES OF RECOVERY. IT CENTERS ON THE SAM SUFRAMEWORK OF RECOVERY WHICH IS INTEGRATED. IT RECOGNIZES THAT LOW BARRIER ENGAGEMENT IS A PART OF THE RECOVERY JOURNEY AND THAT ULTIMATELY ALL PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO AND DESERVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE TREATMENT MODALITIES WHEN THEY ARE THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THEM. THERE IS MUCH LESS SDREEMENT ON WHERE IS THE DESTINATION AND WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE THAN WHAT ONE WOULD THINK FROM READING NATIONAL CULTURAL FIGHTS ON THIS. THE BARRIER STRATEGIES REFLECTED IN THE PORTION OF THE HIGH LEVEL LIST ARE COMPLIMENTED BY ACCESS TO TRADITIONAL RECOVERY STRATAEMGS AND MAKE SURE ONCE PEOPLE HAVE MADE MAJOR CHANGES IN THE SUBSTANCE USE, THEY DONOT HAVE TO RETURN TO SHELTER AND HOUSING IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE STILL IN ACTIVE USE. SUPER IMPORTANT THAT WOE USE THAT ROAD, SUPPORT THAT AND I THINK THIS IS A WELL BALANCED FRAMEWORK SHOWING THIS IS A UNITY AND CONTINUUM. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT THE CURRENT VERSION, I SEE IT SAYS UP TO 25%. I HAVE A CAUTION THAT IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME IF BASED ON WHERE YOU END UP, YOU WANTED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS THAT KNOW ABOVE 25% OF THE FUND, AND SMAU THIS RESOLUTION WHICH IS MEANT TO SUPPORT THE WORK ACTS AS AN ACCIDENTAL CAP ON INVESTMENT. AT LEAST 25% WITH A CAP OF 25% COULD INADVERTENTLY LIMIT WHAT THE CITY COULD DO IN THIS REALM WHICH I KNOW IS NOT THE INTENTION. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF EVERGREEN TREATMENT SERVICES. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTION FIRST AND FORMEST, ESPECIALLY OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT FILLING IN WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. AS MY CEO STEVE WOULD SAY, EVERY BIT WILL HELP ON THE SERVICES. IT IS THE WAY TO GO FOR THE CITY CONSIDERING OUR FENTANYL KROIS S. THIS RESOLUTION OFFERS MULTIPLE CORE PATHWAYS TO GET PEOPLE IN TREATMENT. ESPECIALLY PROGRAMS SUCH AS LEAD AND COLEAD THAT ARE ON THE STREET WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT DOING STREET AND COMMUNITY OUT REACH AND DOING LONGTERM CASE MAN MGMENT TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE READY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DATA FOR LEAD AND COLEAD, IT SHOWS THAT FOR LESS THAN 5% OF THE CLIENTS ARE HOUSED DURING PROGRAM ENROLLMENT. THAT MEANS THEY ARE HOMELESS DURING PROGRAM ENROLLMENT. TODAY 40% OF LEAD PARTICIPANTS ARE HOUSED. YOU NODE THESE ALTERNATIVE SERVICES TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO TREATMENT AND TO GET HEALED. IT IS DIFFICULT TO HEAL OUTSIDE. ALSO I'M ATTACHED TO EVERGREEN TREATMENT SERVICES. THIS RESOLUTION WOULD HELP SUPPORT OPIOID USE. YOU NEED TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT. WHEN YOU HAVE THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY WHERE SOMEONE WANTS TO GET TREATMENT, YOU NEED TO BE IN THE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE STRUGGLING WITH IT THE MOST WHICH IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AS WE BELIEVE LEAD AND COLEAD, THE ALTERNATIVE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE FILLING IN THE GAPS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT DESIGNED TO DO BASED ON THEIR AUTHORITY ESPECIALLY DURING THIS CRISIS. YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE WORKING WITH THE MOST COMPLEX INDIVIDUALS, STRUGGLING WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT USE. IF IT IS NOT FUPDED AT THE LEVELS IT NEEDS TO BE, IT WILL BE HARDER TO DO THAT T WITH THOSE FOLKS. IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BAND AID. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO FILL IN THE GAP. SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING M.O.U.D. SERVES AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR THE FOLKS STRUGGLING WITH SUBSTANCE USE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALL OF YOU. >> I WILL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE BEFORE I MAKE COMMENTS OF MY OWN. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I EXTEND ALSO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS TO INCLUDE SEATTLERS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE EVERYONE PRESENT AND ALL VOICES HEARD. THERE ARE A FEW PIECES HERE AS I LOOK AT THIS. ONE IS STARTING OFF WITH DIRECTOR NOBLES' BRIEFING IS THE -- I I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS RELATED TO THE BMO TAX, I THINK EVERYTHING WE ARE LOOKING AT SHOULD BE IN THE CONSTRUCT OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH OF HOW WE ARE DOING TAXES WHETHER IT IS PAY ROLL AND STATS, WE NEED A HOUSING PLAN WHICH MAKES US SMARTER ON THE BUDGET PIECES THAT RELATE TO THAT. AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE. IT IS IMPORTANT. I HEAR THE POINTS MADE. BUT IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THIS ALSO OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITY RELATED TO THE 1O00 MILLION PIECE AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL AND HAS NOT BEEN TALKED ABOUT. THAT'S ALSO A PIECE. SEPARATELY, I HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MY COUNTERPART BOTH IN TERMS OF HIS COMMUNITY ASSIGNMENT PLUS HIS AREA OF COVERAGE IN DISTRICT 7, KING COUNTY COUNCILMEMBER AND CLEARLY THE COUNTY IS MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US. I DON'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KING COUNCIL WILL BE DOING. I HAVE THE GENERAL PIECES THAT THEY DO BUT I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS. BUT WHATEVER THEY DO WITH THEIR POINT ONE, PUBLIC SAFETY SALES TAX AND PUBLIC SAFETY BEING REDEFINED HERE, WE SHOULD BE IN SYNC. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PDA, LEAD, EVERY GROUP HERE, EVERGREEN, TO BE REPRESENTED AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TOO. IT IS REALLY INCUMBENT ON US. I'M CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNITY, PILLAR 6 OF STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK PLAN IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE. THIS IS CLEARLY AN AREA WHERE WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY. I THINK AS MY FATHER USED TO SAY MANY HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK. THE COUNTY AND CITY WORKING TOGETHER IN THIS TOPIC THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND MORE EFFICIENT, WHATEVER, ALL OF THE ABOVE. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT. I ALSO THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING BUDGET IN TERMS OF FEDERAL IMPACTS. DIRECT BUDGET FEDERAL IMPACTS BUT INDIRECT T FEDERAL IMPACTS. I'M SCARED AND I USE THAT WORD PURPOSELY, I I'M WORRIED, I USE THAT WORD PURPOSELY, WHAT THE MEDICAID PIECES OF THE VERY UGLY BILL, THE IMPACTS. OKAY, FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T WORK, WHICH WE ALL KNOW, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS WORKING WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET. TRUST ME, I CAN TAKE YOU THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE DISTRICT, I COULD TALK ABOUT NAMES OF DRUG DEALERS, I COULD TALK ABOUT PEOPLE ON THE STREETS. IT'S INCREDIBLE. I KNOW YOU ARE DOING SIMILAR STUFF. I ALSO KNOW THAT A BIG CHUNK OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY NOT FIT TO WORK. BUT THAT MAY NOT BE DEFINING HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS. SO WE NEED TO BE UNDERSTANDING THAT MEDICAID PIECE. WE NEED TO BE THINKING NOW IN TERMS OF STRATEGY, HOW DO WE GET THERE, AND THEIR STATUS BE CONFIRMED AS UNABLE TO WORK IN THIS SITUATION. I'M NOT THE SMART PEOPLE HERE. I RECOGNIZE THAT. I WORK WITH THESE ISSUES BUT WE NEED TO LEVERAGING THIS, POTENTIALLY HOW CAN WE DO THE EXTRA PIECE. COULD THIS MONEY HELP TO DO THE EXTRA PIECE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF MEDICAID COVERAGE WE CAN GET. IF THE MEDICAID PIECE FAILS, AGAIN, I USE THE WORD SCARED, WORRIED, DELIBERATELY, IT COULD BE CATASTROPHIC FOR US ON OUR STREETS. I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT KING COUNTY SING RUINIZATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE AS I WAS ADVISED TO WRITE DOWN THINGS. THIS WAS PART OF THE BUDGET PIECE. BUT THE FEDERAL IMPACTS, THE COUNTY, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ANY REACTION TO THAT PART. >> I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TOSERVICES. WE ARE DEFINITELY SCARED AS PROVIDERS ESPECIALLY FOR THE FOLKS ENGAGED IN TREATMENT NOW AND DOING BETTER BECAUSE OF IT THAT ARE ON MEDICAID. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD LOSE. IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR STREETS, FLOOD OUR STREETS WITH PEOPLE WITH MORE ISSUES THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH SUBSTANCE USE. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. BUT THE MEDICAID CUTS WILL BE CATASTROPHIC TO THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. WE ARE NOT REALLY SET UP STRUCTURALY, OUR CITIES, TO DEAL WITH THAT BY USING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTORS. THAT WON'T BE THE ANSWER TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE THAT WILL PERSIST IF MEDICAID CUTS HAPPEN. TO ECHO WHAT LISA SAID, TO FUND THINGS AT LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN HAVE EFFECTIVE SERVICES IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE. I APPRECIATE THE APPROACH OF HOW DO WE PARTNER WITH KING COUNTY AND MAKE SURE WE PATCHWORK THIS QUILT TOGETHER TO COVER THOSE IN THE CITY. >> I LOOK THAT PATCHWORK OF THE QUILT. I MAY HAVE TOUSE THAT. >> I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU RAISED THE MEDICAID POINT T. AND YOU KNOW, SORT OF PUT ON THE TABLE THE POSSIBILITY OF A DIRECT STRATEGY TO MAINTAIN MEDICAID ENROLLMENT FOR OTHERWISE ELIGIBLE PEOPLE AS A CORE THING THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING TO DO AS PART OF PUBLIC SAFETY WORK. THE AVENUE TO ACHIEVE THAT IS LONGTERM CASE MANAGEMENT RELATIONSHIPS. SO THERE IS SO MUCH CONFUSION ABOUT T THUS. I'M HEARING IT FROM MEDIA, CONSTANTLY TEXTING REPORTERS TO DESCRIBE THE PROBLEM DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT THAT THERE IS A WORK REQUIREMENT FOR MEDICAID RECIPIENTS. IT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO WORK WOULD LOSE ELIGIBILITY IF THEY DO NOT WORK. MOST PEOPLE ON MEDICAID ARE NOT ABLE TO WORK. WE CAN INSULATE OUR COMMUNITY FROM THE PROJECTED IMPACT OF THE WORK CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT BY TIMELY AND EFFECTIVELY FILING VERIFICATION THAT PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO WORK, PEOPLE WHO ARE GENUINELY DISABLED AND WORKING ON RECOVERY. NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYONE WORKING ON RECOVERY IS UNABLE TO WORK. BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE, CERTIFYING IT WILL MAINTAIN MEDICAID ELIGIBILITY. THE PROJECTED ROLLS ARE EXPECTED THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE WILL LOSE COVERAGE BECAUSE THEY DON'T FILE THE CERTIFICATION. WE CAN PREVENT THAT OUTCOME AND WHO IS ABLE TO DO THAT IS PEOPLE WITH LONGTERM CASE MANAGEMENT RELATIONSHIPS WITH HARD TO REACH PARTICIPANTS. SO FOR GETTING INFORMATION, SIGNATURE ON FORM, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A HUGE -- WE CAN CHANGE THAT IMPACT LEVEL FOR SEATTLE SIGNIFICANTLY IF WE MAINTAIN AND STABILIZE THE LONGTERM CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS. BRANDY MENTIONED THAT EVERYONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS ARE ENROLLED IN MEDICAID. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU CAN FIND WHEN PEOPLE TRUST YOU. I WANTED TO FLAG THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING COMMISSION, $100 MILLION GRANT PROGRAM WHICH COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE REFERENCES WHICH SEEMS LIKE AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. BUT IT IS ONETIME FUNDING. IF I CAN JUST PLEAD, WHEN BRANDY SAID LEAD AND COLEAD HAS LOST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT IS NOT BECAUSE OF A CUT EXACTLY, IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS FUNDED BY ONETIME DOLLARS THAT WENT AWAY. THIS WORK IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN WITH ONE TIME FUNDING. IF IT IS A CORE PIECE OF THE PICTURE, IT MATCHES TO BASE BUDGET. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE SO APPRECIATE THE RESOLUTION CENTERING WORK IN THIS REALM AS PART OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE BACKED BY THE BASE BUDGET. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PROGRAM WON'T HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY BUT FUNDING THIS WORK WITH ONE TIME FUNDING KICKS THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD TO THE NEXT YEAR IN A WAY THAT YOU ARE ALREADY SEEING WITH THE CURRENT PREDICAMENT. WE HAVE SEEN $3 MILLION IN REDUCTION AND FUNDING FOR LEAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YOURS BECAUSE IT WAS BASED ON ONE TIME FUNDING, BORY ALLOCATION AS AN EXAMPLE. >> I UNDERSTAND YOUR ONETIME FUNDING POINT. I THINK I HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE. THE OTHER THING, CHAIR, JUST QUICKLY, THE OTHER MAIN SECTION I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE AND THE OVERLAP WITH THE HUMAN SERVICES PIECE AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY APPROACH AND SO FORTH. AS I SAID MANY TIMES, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH AND HOMELESSNESS, THEY DON'T STACK ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BUT THERE IS THE OVER LAP. THEY INFLUENCE EACH OTHER. IF THEY DON'T SUCCEED IN PUBLIC HEALTH, WE WILL NOT SUCCEED IN PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS NOT A TAG LINE. THIS IS BASING FACTS. PART OF THIS TOO, SINCE WE ARE TALKING IN A BUDGET FORMAT, THE GOOD GOVERNANCE AND METRIC PIECES, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH HUME PUBLIC SAFETY. HUMAN SAFETY IS ENGAGING WITH PUBLIC SERVICE. LIKE THE RFP THAT WENT OUT, WE WILL HAVE THOSE PIECES IN TERMS OF METRICS AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO AND CLEARLY, AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH EVERGREEN, THERE ARE METRICS OUT THERE. LIKE HAVING A HOUSING MRN, PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN A WAY THAT IS DIGESTIBLE AND THEN EXPLAIN, AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE MAKING SMART DECISIONS. PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TRADEOFFS AND SAY THERE IS A LOGIC THERE IN TERMS OF WHY WE WENT THERE. I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SPEAKING OF GOOD GOVERNANCE I WANT TO PUT A PLUG IN BECAUSE I'M DEALING WITH A LOT OF CHALLENGES, GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS. THIS IS ABOUT WORKING WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS TO HIGHLIGHT TO THEIR CLIENTS LIKE, THIS IS THE IMPACT YOU ARE HAVING ON YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE, BE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES ACROSS D7 IN THE CITY WHERE WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS. I HAD A SECRETARY OF HUMAN SERVICES IN BELLTEN AT THE COMMUNITY SUFBS OFFICE, I WAS HIGHLIGHTING TO HER, WHAT CAN YOU DO DIFFERENTLY? WHEN YOU HAND OUT THE EBT CARDS, THEY ARE SOLD AND THEN GIOVANNI ACROSS THE STREET, THE DRUG DEALERS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE DYNAMIC WE HAVE. HOW IT WE CHANGE THINGS UP AND PUT PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM? WE ARE LOOKING TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM RELATED TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PREYING ON THE VULNERABLE THAT YOU HELP SUPPORT. SO IT IS LIKE HOW DO WE ATTACK THE PEOPLE PREYING ON THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP, HOW DO WE PREBLTH THEM FROM THOSE PREYING ON THEM. I THINK GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS ARE GOOD BECAUSE IT CREATES CONVERSATION. WE NOTED CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS, LIEKS HOW CAN WE IMPROVE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. THIS IS SOMETHING LOOIM LOOKING TO DO IN MY COMMITTEE. HOW DOWE GET BETTER TREATMENT OPTIONS IN THE SYSTEM. IF YOU GO TO KCJ, WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU? ARE YOU GETTING THAT LEVEL OF CARE? WE TALK ABOUT WARM HANDOFFS. THE WARM HANDOFF ON THE BACKHAND. ARE THEY GETTING TREATMENT AT KCJ AND IS THERE A PROCESS TO ENSURE THERE IS NO BACK SLIDING AND THE LAST POINT I WANT TO SAY, AND I RECOGNIZE THERE ARE CHALLENGES BUT WE NEED AN ALL HANDS ON DECK AND NOW APPROACHES. I'M NOT YOUR TYPICAL SEATTLE PERSON. I'M THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND ALL THAT. WE NEED TO HAVE AN ALL HANDS ON DECK. THERE ARE DIFFERENT APPROACHES. I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE BE HEART SEATTLE HERE. I WILL SAY ON THIS FRONT, IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT, MR. TIM EMMERSON IS THE BEST PERSON I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THE STREETS DOING THE OUT REACH. I LOVE TIM. THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE NEED EVERYONE TO INCLUDE TIM IN THIS EFFORT AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. WITH THAT, I'M DONE IF YOU HAVE ANY REMARKS REGARDING THAFLT BUT I'M FINISHED THANK YOU. >> I ONLY HAVE ONE REMARK, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, LIKE YOU SAID THE PLACE ON FOURTH AND BLANCHARD, WE ARE THERE ON THIRD AND BLANCHARD AND WE ARE IN THE HEART OF IT BUT WHAT DO YOU DO? REACH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 0 YEARS. ALTHOUGH I CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THE STREET, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WE DO WITH LEAD, AND OUT REACH PROGRAMS, YOU HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHO YOU ARE SERVING. WE ARE SERVING THE PEOPLE WHO YOU BEING PREYED UPON, NOT THE PEOPLE WOO ARE HURTING PEOPLE. THE DRUG CRISIS HAS CHANGED THE GAME ON THAT WHERE THERE ARE DEALERS HURTING PEOPLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT WE WILL BE PARTNERRING WITH LOCAL CONDOMINIUMS TO HELP PAY FOR SECURITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. IT IS GOING TOLOOK DIFFERENT FOR THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEEP WHO'LL ARE MOST VULNERABLE HELP TO SET THE BOUNDARIES. WE WILL PARTNER WITH SECURITY, PARTNERRING WITH PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUTSIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO SET BETTER BOUNDARIES IN THE NASHDS AROUND WHAT WE WANT AND DON'T WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT IS SAFE TO DO. ALTHOUGH I KNOW THERE WILL BE CRITICS ON HOW THAT IS SERVED OR HOW WE DO THAT, BUT BEING INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHO WE SERVE, WHAT WE ARE DOING, LONGTERM CASE MANAGEMENT IS THE WAY TO DO THAT. IT DOES MEAN THAT IT WILL BE A MINE FINE LINE BETWEEN GENERAL SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WOE WANT TO BE SAFE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE THINGS THEY NEED TO HEAL. WE WANT TO WORK WITH ALL PARTNERS TO DO THAT AND HAVE ALL HANDS ON DECK IF WE WILL HAVE A BETTER SEATTLE. >> I AGREE. AND BY THE WAY, I SHOULD VISIT AND MEET WITH YOU. I WOULD BE WELCOMED TO DO THAT AND MR. MALONE AS WELL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO TARGET THOSE WHO ARE PREYING ON BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT T. THE SOTA BILL IS IMPACTING BLANCHARD BECAUSE IT IS DYNAMIC. WE WORK WITH THE WEST PRECINCT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SHIFT TO ADDRESS, THIS IS WHERE THE COPS COME IN RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE THE DYNAMICES IN WORK. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. I LOVE WHAT YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE THAT GOES EXACTLY TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A RESOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. I KNOW THIS IS XROEMLY TOUGH WHEN I LISTEN TO THE MEETINGS. OBVIOUSLY, WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE STREETS AND WE KNOW YOU ARE DOING YOUR HARDEST WORK TO GET PEOPLE HEALTHY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS INVESTMENTS OVER OUTCOMES AND HOW WE CAN GET BETTER AT THAT AND HAVING HONEST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AND THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE PROCESS. AT ANY POINT IN TIME I CAN GO ON THE WASHINGTON BOARD OF EDUCATION AND I CAN LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE ARE SPENDING PER KID, CHILD, INVESTMENT, EDUCATION, DEMOGRAPHICS, PER SCHOOL, PER LUNCH, EVERYTHING. WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND I KNOW WE CAN GO AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE OVERDOSES ON KING COUNTY THEY HAVE A DASHBOARD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING YOU ALL KNOW. WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE IS EASILY DIGESTIBLE INFORMATION TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE SPENDING, WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES. BECAUSE WHAT DIFFERENT PROVIDERS HAVE OF THEIR STORY OF SUCCESS IS DIFFERENT ALL ACROSS. IF WE HAD UNIFORMITY AND SAID THIS IS WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE TO US, I CAN HEAR A PROVIDER SAY 60% OF OUR CLIENTS ARE ABCD. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CLIENTS THAT IS OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO DIGEST THE THOUSANDS OF REPORTS I SEE, ALL OF THE INFORMATION IS LITERALLY HAVE ONE THING WHERE WE CAN GO TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT WE ARE HAVING AND THE INVESTMENT. ONE OF THE MODELS I LOVE TO SEE IS THE HOUSTON MODEL OF THE HOMELESSNESS PIECE WHERE THEY BROUGHT EVERYONE TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE THE SAME METRICS. IT'S A CITY FUNDED DASHBOARD THAT SHOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE STREETS, WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND DEMOGRAPHICS AND BREAKDOWN. THEY BROUGHT EVERY PROVIDER UNDER ONE UMBRELLA TO UNDERSTAND THE METRICS SO WE COULD BE -- WE COULD UNDERSTAND IS THIS WORKING, MAYBE WE NEED TO SWITCH IT. SEATTLE IS SUCH A GIVING CITY EVERY TIME I TALK TO SOMEONE, THEY ARE LIKE, WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP, HOW MUCH MORE MONEY, WHAT DO WE NODE TO DO. I HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING AND MONEY PIECE BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PROGRESSIVE OUTCOMES ARE WE GOING TO EXPECT AND HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE STREET ARE GETTING THE SERVICES THEY NEED? I WAS JUST AT A WALK AROUND A WEEK AGO WITH A PROPOSED KROIS S CARE CLINIC ON CAPITOL HILL, DOING A WALK AROUND WITH THE NEIGHBORS. I WALK AROUND THE CORNER, THIS GIRL SHOUTS OUT MY NAME AND I SAID WHAT'S UP T., SORRY I SAID HER FIRST INITIAL. THIS WAS A GIRL I PLAYED BASKETBALL WITH AND SHE WAS ON THE STREET ON FENTANYL. HADN'T TALKED TO HER MOM IN WEEKS. IT REALLY PUT A FACE TO -- WE HAVE BEEN -- WE SEE IT EVERY DAY. BUT WE DON'T PUT FACES TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE. I THINK THAT MOMENT FOR ME, THAT MOMENT FOR ME ROLLY PUT THINGS INTO A DEEP PERSPECTIVE FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF OUTCOMES ARE WE HAVING. WE HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ALL THIS MONEY COMING IN AND THESE INVESTMENTS. I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT NOW? WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER? IT IS OKAY TO SAY WE MESSED UP. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. IT IS NOT WORKING. WE CAN'T RUN THE SAME PLAY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SCORING A TOUCHDOWN SO WE WILL GO TO THIS PIECE OVER HERE. THAT'S OKAY. I NEED TO HEAR MORE OF THAT FROM PROVIDERS AND FROM PEOPLE SO I KNOW, WE ENEED TO INVEST IN THIS. OR THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW EXPECTATION, THE OUTCOME SO THAT WE KNOW IT IS WORKING BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE WORK YOU ARE DOING. I WANT TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THAT. I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT US ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND SAYING, CAN THEY GET IT RIGHT? SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A QUESTION. BUT I'M SUPER HAPPY TO VOTE ON THIS AND I THINK THIS IS MUCH NEEDED, AND I WILL TAKE SOME OF THE TALK THAT MIGHT COLLEAGUE DOES WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH, YOU CALL IT THE SAME TWO SIDED COIN -- TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN. I DON'T WANT TO STEAL WORDS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. I KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE EQUALLY INVESTED BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL IS TO HAVE A SENSE OF BASELINE TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND THESE ARE THE OUTCOMES WE NEED. THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL TO KNOW WE ARE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND IF WE ARE NOT, WE NEED TO SHIFT , STILL MAKE THE SAME INVESTMENTS BUT THE STRATEGY CAN BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. SO THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA? -- I'M SORRY, DID ANYONE WANT TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> JUST VERY MUCH AGREEING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE EXTRA MONEY. WE DO NOT HAVE MONEY AT THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE. SO NOT A SINGLE DOLLAR SHOULD BE SPENT WITHOUT A STRONG UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IT IS A GOOD BET IF YOU WILL. I THINK THE APPROACH THE RESOLUTION TAKES IS TO SAY THE INVESTMENT SHOULD BE IN EVIDENCE BASED APPROACHES THAT RELIABLY GENERATE STRONGLY POSITIVE OUTCOMES. THERE IS AN A REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN STRATEGY AND MODEL VERSUS ORGANIZATION. MODELS ARE GENERAL APPROACHES THAT WORK IN HOUSTON, THEY WORK IN BOSTON, THEY WORK IN SEATTLE. THEN THERE IS FIDELITY OF IMPLEMENTING THE MODEL WHICH YOU CAN TEST. THOSE ARE TWO QUESTIONS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT MODEL, THE METHODOLOGY WILL NEVER GET US WHERE WE NEED TO GET BECAUSE IT IS THE WRONG APPROACH. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS ARE THE SELECTEDED ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE MODEL WELL. BOTH OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. OF COURSE WE WOULD LOVE TO COME AND SHOW YOU THE EVIDENCE OF EFFICACY FOR THE MODELS THAT MANY OF US PRACTICE BUT ALSO THE EVIDENCE OF HIGH QUALITY IMPLEMENTATION. AND IF WE CAN'T PASS THOSE QUESTIONS, THE CITY SHOULD BE MAKING DIFFERENT INVESTMENTS. ENTIRELY AGREE AND I THINK THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE RESOLUTION WHICH SEEMS LIKE A STEP FORWARD, A VALUES AGREEMENT TO YOUR POINT. >> THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU DESC AND THE PDA AND EVERGREEN FOR BEING HERE AND TO OUR BEN NOBLE FOR PRESENTING THE RESOLUTION. LISA, I AGREE WITH YOU AND ALSO, YOU KNOW I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGS WORTH IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GETTING, AND TO SAY GETTING FOR THEIR INVESTMENT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE WE ALL WANT TO HELP PEOPLE. BUT IT IS MORE LIKE, ARE WOE HELPING PEOPLE? THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THE OUTCOMES ARE THERE, THAT WE ARE HELPING THE FOLKS WE SET OUT TO HELP. I THINK THERE IS A LACK OF INFORMATION BY WHICH TO -- DEMONSTRABLE INFORMATION BY WHICH WE ARE BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO THE FOLKS THAT WE SERVE AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE HELPING US MAKE AN INVESTMENT BY WAY OF THE TAX DOLLARS. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. I WILL SAY THAT, AND I SAID THIS SINCE I GOT HERE. FOLKS NEED SERVICES. WE CAN'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL, FOLKS THAT T HAVE -- ARE SUFFERING FROM ADDICTION OR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT TREATMENT AND WITH THE SERVICES. INCLUDING IN HOUSES. WOE REALLY NEED TO BE CARRYING SERVICES WITH THE HOUSING SO THAT FOLKS ARE SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE GREATER OUTCOMES ON THE BACK END. SO I THINK THAT I DO NOT DISPUTE THAT WE NEED MORE -- WE NEED MORE SERVICES FOR FOLKS, THAT IS TRUE. WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE THE INFORMATION BY WHICH WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING IS WORKING FOR PEOPLE. SO LISA, I'M GLAD TO HEAR AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN DOG THIS FOR A LONG TIME AS HAVE THE OTHER FOLKS ON THIS PANEL. I HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T ALWAYS GET THE INFORMATION BY WHICH I CAN REALLY TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS ARE DOING AND THE OUTCOMES THEY ARE HAVING. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE OR LETTING THEM KNOW WE ARE DOING MORE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM WHY. SO THAT PIECE IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU BRINGING THIS UP AGAIN. I SUPPORT MORE SERVICES FOR FOLKS, IT IS CLEARLY NEED D ED. THE O OTHER THING, I APPRECIATE WHAT T YOU SAY ABOUT THE MEDICAID PIECE. THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BACK THE MEDICAID NEEDS OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW THE HEALTHCARE FOLKS ARE LOSING THEIR HEALTHCARE AND CITIES IN GENERAL ABILITY TO BACK BOOK FOR THAT,IST AN ASTRONOMICAL NEED. I APPRECIATE THAT WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS MAKING SURE WE ARE PROVIDING THAT CASE MANAGEMENT OF FOLKS SO THAT FOLKS DON'T LOSE THE MEDICAID THAT HAVE AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED. THAT PIECE, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR YOU SAY BECAUSE WE HAD NOT HEARD VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FOR PEOPLE. MAKING SURE WE ARE HELPING THEM KEEP THEIR MEDICAID BENEFITS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. GIVEN ALL THAT IS GOING ON. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THERE. AND IN GENERAL, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BIG CHALLENGES AND THAT WE WANT TO HELP SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE NEEDS IN COMMUNITY AS REGARDS BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH. I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS CONVERSATION AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO PARTNER TOGETHER. AS COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE SAID, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE TO MAKE SURE OUR INVESTMENTS HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT. IF WE ARE NOT ALL COORDINATED AND EVERYONE IS DOING THEIR OWN THING, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE BEST OUTCOMES I BELIEVE. SO MAKING SURE THAT AS WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR COUNTY AND STATE PARTNERS AND THE INVESTMENTS THEY ARE MAKING, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST RESULTS AND THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. THAT WAS MORE OF A COMMENT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND ENGAGING IN THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AND FOR THE WORK YOU DO EVERY DAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, I KNOW IT WAS A QUESTION BUT A COMMENT BUT SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS IN JEOPARDY, ANOTHER THING YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSING. THE THIRD AVENUE PROJECT WE DID AND THE LEAD FUNDING FUNDS A LOT OF OUR REACH HOUSING WORK. WITH THAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE DONE WITH TAP AND PDA AND NWDC, WE HOUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH OUR SCATTERED SITES VOUCHERS AND OUR SITE BASED VOUCHERS. THEY WILL BE IN JEOPARDY AS WELL DUE TO THE FEDERAL CUTS. IN 2026, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME BUT I COULD GET THEM, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HOUSED THROUGH THOSE VOUCHERS, OUR THIRD AVENUE PROJECT WILL BE IN JEOPARDY. SO JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT WORKED. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WORKED. HOW DO WE KEEP THEM FUNDED AS LISA SAID. THAT WILL BE HARD WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FACES OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, I'M BORN AND RAISED IN RAINIER BEACH SO I'M WALKING ON THIRD AVENUE SEEING PEOPLE I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WE ARE ABLE TO HOUSE THROUGH THE VOUCHERS AND HAVE THEM HOUSED FOR MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF JUST TOLOSE IT BASED ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ABANDONING US IS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO ALL OF THE HARDWORK THAT WE HAVE AN EVIDENCE BASED MODEL THAT WORKED AND NOW IT WILL FAIL AND THAT HAS ME SCARED AS COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE GAVE ME PERMISSION TO USE THE WORD. >> AND THE TRANSPARENCY, PEOPLE FEELING THAT THA MONEY BEING SPENT IS WELL SPENT, AN OPPORTUNITY THAT IS POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS TO HAVE THOSE SORTS OF CONVERSATIONS TO STRATJZ JAZZ AROUND THE SET LANGUAGE PEOPLE ARE USING AND THE STANDARDIZED LANGUAGE OF OUTCOMES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK ON AND THAT'S A POTENTIAL DOOR THAT COULD BE OPEN WITH THIS RESOLUTION TO WORK ON IT COLLECTIVELY. >> AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT I AGREE. I DON'T WANT TOSAY WHETHER THE MONEY IS WELL SPENT. BECAUSE MONEY IS WELL SPENT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP FOLKS. IT'S MORE, ARE WE GETTING THE OUTCOME, ROLLY HELPING THAT PERSON, MAKING SURE WE ARE CONSISTENTLY CHECKING BACK, IS THAT MODEL THAT WE ARE USING WORKING, RIGHT? IF THAT PERSON IS NOT BEING HELPED , THEN WE NEED TO PIVOT. SO LESS ABOUT IS THAT MONEY WELL SPENT AND MORE ABOUT ARE WE HELPING THAT PERSON, RIGHT? I THINK THAT DISTINCTION IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HERE. SO THANK YOU. >> I SEE COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON HAS HIS HAND UP BUT THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT DOES CALL FOR REPORTING AND EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAMS GOING FORWARD. SO NEVER FORGETTING THE OVERSIGHT ROLE THAT WE PLAY. COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU. I HAVE WORKED WITH EACH ONE OF YOU IN PREVIOUS ROLES. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS UNDENIABLY A LINK BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING ON THE STREET AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE, NOT JUST POLICE RESPONSE BUT MEDICAL RESPONSE AS WELL. IF WE WANT TO GET A HANDLE ON OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSES, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE THAT IS GOING ON HERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE LATE. YOU ASK ANY COP ON THE STREETS, WHY DO WE HAVE THE CRIME RATE WE DO? DRUGS. I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT COPS BUT HEALTH ONE, HEALTH 99, OUR MEDICES, FIREFIGHTERS, I'M THINKING OF FOLKS IN THE HOBSON PLACE, WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH THERE WITH FOLKS IN A BEHAVIORAL CRASIS OR FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS WHO ARE IN THE CHEMICALLY CLASSES THAT ARE CAUSING ISSUES FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BUILDINGS. I'M THINKING OF THE SAFETY OF THE FOLKS THAT REACH IS WORKING WITH. LEAD, COLOAD, YOU ARE DEALING WITH. SO AGAIN, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND, IT GETS TOA POINT THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT, PEANUT BUTTER IS TOO THIN. IT'S SPREAD TOO THIN. AND WITH THE CUTS COMING FROM THE FEDS, THAT'S EVEN WORSE. SO THE CUTS ARE COMING. THE NEEDS HAVE NOT GONE AWAY. WHAT DO WE DO TO HELP OUR FOLKS HERE CONCERNING WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT HERE? THAT IS NOT LOST ON ME. SO AGAIN, IT MAKES US DO THIS IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ON SOMANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. AND TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH AND ALWAYS THAT I TOGGED ABOUT IT. IT IS RESPONSIBLE OF US TO SAY OR TO ASK, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING? WHAT ARE WE SPENDING IT ON? AND WHAT ARE THE MEASURABLE RESULTS? BECAUSE IF WHAT WE ARE SPENDING IS NOT GETTING US THE RESULTS WE WANT, MAYBE WE NEED TO PUT THE DOLLARS ELSEWHERE. HAVING SOME KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY, SOME TRANSPARENCY THAT WE CAN GO, YEAH, THESE ARE GOOD INVESTMENTS OR MAYBE WE NEED TO PIVOT, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED. PEOPLE ARE ASKING US, WHY ARE WE SPENDING X AMOUNT ON THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THEM THAT IT IS. SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO. YOU ARE SAVING LIVES WITH THE STUFF YOU ARE DOING. AND I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU. >> OKAY. LET ME JUST JUMP IN, LOOKING AT THE TIME, I WILL SAY THAT WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID. ADDICTION AND THE FENTANYL CRISIS, ESPECIALLY HAVING BROUGHT ADDICTION ISSUES MUCH MORE ACUTE IS LINKED TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM AND THAT'S WHY I'M FIGHTING TO PUT TREATMENT AT THE CENTER OF THE CITY'S AGENDA. UP UNTIL NOW, WE HAVE SERVICES THAT YOU PROVIDE A, A LITTLE BIT COMING FROM THE COUNTY, MOSTLY HARM REDUCTION WHICH IS WHY I PUT FORWARD THE DIRECT AND ON DEMAND ACCESS TO IN PATIENT AND INTENSIVE OUT PATIENT TREATMENT BECAUSE WE NEEDED SOMETHING ELSE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANTED SOMETHING THAT MEDICATION FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER WOULD NOT ADDRESS. SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS EXERCISE IS NOT THAT WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE ALL OUR PROBLEMS BECAUSE $10 MILLION ISN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. IT WILL GO PLACES BUT WE HAVE A CHOICE OF THINGS WITH IT LIST OF THINGS WE WANT TO FUND. I WILL READ SOME OTHER QUOTES FROM SOME OF THE SPONSORS OF THE BILL. LET'S SEE, THIS BILL MAKES CLEAR THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT ABOUT MORE POLICING BUT ABOUT CREATING STRONG LIVING COMMUNITIES AND ABOUT STRONG, SMART, INVESTMENTS, BOLD POLICIES, AND ASSURING EVERY COMMUNITY THOSE IMPACTED BY SYSTEMIC INJUSTICE HAS THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THEY DESERVE. THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SEATTLE MEDIUM. SOMEBODY ELSE SAID THAT, WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY INCLUDE A LARGER DEFINITION OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE LEGISLATIVE BLACK CAUCUS HAS LONG ADVOCATED FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY THAT PRIORITIZES COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, LOCAL AUTHORITY AND SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES AND HB2015 IS A STEP TOWARDS ACHIEVING THE VISION. MY POINT IS WE ARE BROADENING THE DEFINITION OF WHAT PUBLIC SAFETY MEANS. IF AYOU LISTEN TO THE RECENT EDITION OF ERIKA BARNETT'S SEATTLE NIGHTS, THEY TALK ABOUT THE PRESS CONFERENCE WE WERE AT AND I WAS SURPRISED THAT THEY SUGGESTED MAYBE WE SHOULD SPEND 100% OF THE MONEY THAT IS ALLOWED IN PUBLIC SAFETY TAX FOR THINGS WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY. I WILL REMIND ALL OF US HERE THAT WE APPROPRIATE THE MONEY AND THIS WILL BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION. HERE'S MY BIGGER POINT. THE POLICIES THAT NEED SUSTAINING, WE HAVE PASSED POLICIES AND BUDGETS THAT HAVE PROVIDED FOR DIVERSION PROGRAMS, COLEAD, AN EXPANSION OF THE CARE DEPARTMENT. AND WHERE ARE YOU SENDING PEOPLE THAT YOU ENCOUNTER AS YOU ARE PERFORMING THE WORK THAT IS MANDATED BY THESE PROGRAMS? THIS IS A MISSING PIECE TO MAKE YOUR EXISTING PROGRAMS MORE EFFECTIVE. THAT IS WHY THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT T. A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT, WHEN YOU ARE CALLED BY AN OFFICER WHO IS MAKING AN ARREST FOR PUBLIC USE OF FENTANYL, WHAT DO YOU DO? AND IT IS A LOT EASIER IF YOU HAVE A PLACE YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY REFER SOMEONE. THAT $300,000 IS DIMINISHING VERY QUICKLY. WE NEED TO EXPAND THAT. ONE OF THE REASONS I PUT FORWARD THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW FOR IN PATIENT TREATMENT IS UP UNTIL MAYBE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NOT A LOT WE CAN DO ABOUT STIMULANT ADDICTION. THAT IS WHY I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT DANIEL WAS TALKING ABOUT, A POTENTIAL TO ADDRESS THAT THROUGH MEDICATION. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, I'M NOT NECESSARILY A -- I'MING A NOSTIC IN HOW WE HELP PEOPLE WITH ADDICTION. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND GETTING PEOPLE ON LONG ACTING SOBOX OWN BECAUSE THAT STABILIZES PEOPLE FASTER. THERE WAS A LOT PRESENTED HERE. JUST A COUPLE MORE NOTES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LISA FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THE DEFINITION OF RECOVERY, VERY, VERY BROAD. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ABSTONANCE ONLY. I HAVE BEEN PIGEON HOLED BY PEOPLE THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M REFERRING TO. RECOVERY MEANS REUNIFYING WITH LOVED ONES, AND BEING ABLE TO STAND ON THEIR FEET AT SOME POINT. THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS TALK ABOUT BUT WE HAVE TO CREATE A COHERENT AND COMPREHENSIVE WAY OF TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE AND HOW IT MAKES SENSE TO ADD ADIGDZAL SERVICES WHICH WAS WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR RECOVERY WILL COME WITH MORE AND MORE STRINGS, THAT WILL REQUIRE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO SAY ADDICTION SERVICES HAVE TO -- THEY MAY LEAN TOWARDS MORE ABSTINENCE BASED SERVICES. THAT'S WHY I CALL OUT CONTINGENCY MANAGEMENT IN SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THAT WAS A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, IMPLEMENT HOUSING. I CALL THAT OUT AS A SUCCESS THAT REQUIRES SOME PERHAPS ANOTHER GO AROUND. AND I WILL FINALLY, MY LAST POINT, WE SPEND, WE HAVE A HOUSING LEVY THAT IS GOING TO BE $970 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF TEN YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS. WE HAVE JUMP START FUNDS ET CETERA. THERE IS NO DESIGNATED FUNDING FOR RECOVERY HOUSING. THAT IS A HUGE GAP BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE GOING INTO RECOVERY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO GO IF THAT IS THE PATH THEY HAVE CHOSEN. I HAVE A LOT MORE I CAN SAY BUT I HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT I THINK THIS IS A HISTORIC MOMENT WHEN WE DO HAVE PEOPLE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO RECOVERY. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT GOING FORWARD ON THESE LINES AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS AND TO OUR VOTE AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, OUR NEXT POSSIBLE VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND WORKING WITH ME. I RECOGNIZE THAT OUR FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE WHAT YOU ARE DOING CAN CONTINUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WILL THE CLERK READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD? >> ITEM 2, ODD M RECOMMENDATION UPDATES FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. >> ALL RIGHT. AS PEOPLE ARE GATHERING HERE, I WILL JUST INTRODUCE THIS AND SAY THAT I'M SO HAPPY TO HAVE AUDITOR JONES AND THE TEAM FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY AUDITOR TO PRESENT THEIR ANNUAL IMPLEMENTATION REPORT. I DO NOT TAKE THIS AS A MERE FORMALITY BECAUSE OUR JOB AS COUNCIL IS TO OVERSEE THE PERFORMANCE OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS. AUDITS AREN'T JUST BUSY WORK. THEY OFFER WINDOWS INTO THE EXTENT TO WHICH CITY POLICY IS BEING PERFORMED AND IMPLEMENTED AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT POLICY IS EXECUTIVE OR COUNCIL GENERATED. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP TRACK OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED. IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. HOWEVER I WILL REMIND EVERYONE THAT CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE IS UNDER OUR PURVIEW AS WE ARE THE OVERSIGHT BODY. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PRESENTING WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. >> WE ARE A PROUD MEMBER OF THE BRANCH OF SEATTLE CITY GOVERNMENT. WE WILL BE QUICK. WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO GET TO AND YOU ARE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET TO COUNCIL RULES. GIVE US ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT US OR AFTER THE MEETING. WE RELEASED A REPORT ON MAY 19 THAT SUMMARIZES THE STATUS OF ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE OPEN AT THE END OFALIST YEAR. WIE HAVE BEEN DOING THE REPORTS SINCE 2009. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO GATHER DUST. WE WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THEM AND BE LIKE A DOG WITH A BONE AND MAKE SURE THEY GET DONE OR WE GET A GOOD SMANGZ, CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO WE BELIEVE THESE ARE USEFUL REMINDER AND INCENTIVE TO CITY DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN SEEING THE REPORT, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, SEATTLE.GOV/CITYAUDITOR/REPORTS . NEXT SLIDE. WE ARE ALREADY THERE. SO WHAT THE SLIDE SHOWS YOU IS SOMETHING WE ARE VERY PROUD OF. SINCE WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS OUR OFFICE MADE AND SINCE 2007, 928 RECOMMEND AZS, WE ARE PROUD THAT 72 HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED. WE THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD METRIC FOR ASSESSING THE VALUE OF THE OFFICE AND A TESTAMENT TO THE CITY'S TEST OF PERFORMANCE AUDITING IN SEATTLE. SPECIAL THANKS TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE WHO PROPOSED A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER IN 1991. WE THINK THIS IS THE BEST MEASURE OF OUR SUCCESS. I WANT TO SAY THE HIGH IMPLEMENTATION RATE IS A TESTAMENT TO ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO WORK IN THE OFFICE . LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE OFFICE WORKED ON THIS BEFORE, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK MEMBERS OF DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO ENTERTAIN SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO IMPROVE THEIR OPERATIONS. WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE IN WHERE CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE RESPONSIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE AUDITOR IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT, SARA BLAND WHO WILL TAKE US THROUGH THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE AGENDA BRIEFLY. WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT PROGRESS MADE IN 2024. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT FULLY IMPLEMENTED REPORTS AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THEN DO SOME HIGH LEVEL OVER VIEW OF THE PENDING RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORT UPDATES THAT ARE STILL MAINING. THEN WE WILL DO A DEMO OF THE CITY AUDITOR DASHBOARD. FEEL FREE TO USE THE QR CODE TO GET THE REPORT AND LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD. IN 2004, WE TRACKED THE PROGRESS OF 123 RECOMMENDATIONS, 21 OF THOSE WERE IMPLEMENTED IN 2024. SOME OF THE FULLY IMPLEMENTED REPORTS, SO YOU PUT THOSE TO BED, WE HAVE THE SEATTLE TECHNOLOGY REPORT IMPLEMENTED. THE MANIPULATE PROBATION COURT IMPLEMENTED AND MAYOR'S HOMELESS DASHBOARD FROM 2022 IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED AND ONLINE. I WANT T TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE ANDREW TO TALK ABOUT CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ANDREW SKAUGEN. I WAS PART OF THE TEAM THAT AUDITED THE CITY'S CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING PROCESS. WE PUBLISHED THAT AUDIT IN OCTOBER OF 2023. THIS GRAPHIC ON THE SLIDE HERE SHOWS WHICH PARTS OF THE PROCESS THAT WOE SPECIFICALLY AUDITED WHICH ESSENTIALLY AMOUNTS TO THE CITY'S PROCESS OF REVIEWING PERMIT APPLICATIONS. WE MADE 111 RECOMMENDATIONS MEANT TO INCREASE FOCUS S ON NEEDS AND ENSURE CONSISTENCY OF THE PROCESS. AT A HIGH LEVEL, ALL 11 RECOMMENDATIONS REMAIN PENDING. THE CITY DID REPORT MAKING SOME PROGRESS ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT STCI, THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND INSPECTIONS SHOULD DEVELOP METRICS BASED ON TOTAL PERMIT REVIEW TIME AND A PROCESS FOR MEETING THOSE METRICS. STCI IMPLEMENTED PART OF THIS BY PUBLISHING METRICS ON THE WEBSITE. WE WILL FOLLOW UP TO SEE WHEN THEY HAVE INTERNAL PROCESSIES TO ENSURE MEETING METRICS. WE ALSO FOUND IN THE AUDIT THAT THE CITY DID NOT ROUTINELY COLLECT CUSTOMER FEEDBACK SO WE MADE A RELATED RECOMMENDATION. STCI TOLD US THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING SOFTWARE THAT WOULD DO THAT WHICH THEY ALSO PLAN TO USE TO IMELEMENT OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. I WILL GO THROUGH A COUPLE MORE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE. ON THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MADE TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL BARRIERS IN EQUITY CONCERNS IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. STCI REPORTED THEY ARE WORKING ON RACIAL EQUITY TOOL KIT AND WORK TO IMPLEMENT THE RESULTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? ON THIS SLIDE, WOE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO GOVERNANCE AND STRUCTURES FOR THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. THE CITY BUDGET OFFICE POINTED TO THE NEW PERMITTING AND CUSTOMER TRUST TEAM THAT WAS RECENTLY ESTABLISHED BY THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IN JUNE. IT APPEARS RELATED TO OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. SO WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS IS BEING MADE RELATED TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE CLAUDIA. >> THANK YOU. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AND EVALUATION FOR THE OFFICE OF CITY AUDITOR. I THINK THAT DANIEL MALONE FROM D.E.S.C. STOLE THE THUNDER FOR THIS SLIDE WHEN HE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THE CURRENT PALTRY OPTIONS FOR STIMULANT USE DISORDER AND THE NEED FOR MORE FIELD BASED TREATMENT. BRINGING TREATMENT TO DIRECT LETO CLIENTS WHERE THEY ARE. AS YOU KNOW, SEATTLE HAS EXPERIENCED A SUSTAINED POST PANDEMIC INCREASE IN FATAL OVERDOSES. IN OUR 2022 AUDIT ON METHAMPHETAMINE USE DISORDER, WE REPORTED THAT IN 2022 METHAMPHETAMINE CONTRIBUTED TO 74% OF THE FATAL OVERDOSES AMONG PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN KING COUNTY INCLUDING SEATTLE. AS DANIEL MENTIONED, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE TRIALS UNDERWAY, THERE IS NO MEDICATION YET PROVEN EFFECTIVE FOR TREATING METHAMPHETAMINE USE DISORDER. THE EVIDENCE BASED TREATMENT AT THIS POINT FOR METHAMPHETAMINE USE DISORDER IS BEHAVIORAL INTERVENTION CALLED CONTINGENCY MANAGEMENT. OUR 2022 AUDIT FOUND THERE IS AN UNMET AND URGENT NEED IN SEATTLE FOR METHAMPHETAMINE TREATMENT AND DANIEL MALONE FROM DESC CONFIRMED THAT TODAY. OUR AUDIT HAD ONE RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S THIS ONE HERE. WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY EXPLER WAYS TO SCALE UP EVIDENCE BASED AND EXPLORE REDUCING BARRIERS TO PARTICIPATION IN EVIDENCE BASED TREATMENT. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS TO REPORT AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON MENTIONED, SUBSEQUENT TO THE AUDIT, THE WASHINGTON STATE AUTHORITY FUNDED A SMALL PILOT IN FIVE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE BUILDINGS OPERATED BY PLYMOUTH HOUSING. WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY'S COLLEGE OF MEDICINE IS EVALUATING THE PILOT. THE PILOT USES TWO CERTIFIED PEER NAVIGATORS WHO IMPLEMENT CONTINGENCY MANAGEMENT WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THEY IMPLEMENT CONTINGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTLY WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE. THIS IS A NATIONAL INNOVATION, BRINGING IT DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE'S HOMES IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THIS REDUCES BARRIERS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A TRIP TO THE CLINIC TO RECEIVE THE INTERVENTION. THERE IS ALSO PLENTY OF RESEARCH EVIDENCE THAT NAVIGATORS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO EFFECTIVE RECOVERY FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDER. THE PILOT HAS SERVED 40 RESIDENTS AND 29 HAVE GRADUATED SUCCESSFULLY. THERE ARE SEVEN COMPLIENTS CURRENTLY RECEIVING INTERVENTION. AS I MENTIONED, THE RESEARCH TEAM FROM WASHINGTON STATE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF MEDICINE ARE ACTIVELY CAPTURING THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THIS PILOT. THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH CLIENT ENGAGEMENT BUT THEY HAVE FOUND HIGHER COMPLETION RATES AND PARTICIPATION RATES THAN IN CLINICAL SETTINGS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THE RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE PILOT PHASE AND UNTIL AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. I'M GOING TO VERY BRIEFLY MENTION OUR 2023 AUDIT ON ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME AND OUR 2024 AUDIT ON PLACES WHERE OVERDOSES AND CRIMES ARE CONCENTRATED. FOR THESE AUDITS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON HAS ASKED WOE COME BACK FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION LATER THIS SUMMER. WE WILL BRING THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND OTHER STAKE HOLDER AGENCIES. LOOK FOR THAT MEETING COMING UP. IN THE MEANTIME I WILL OFFER TWO QUICK UPDATES. FIRST, IN OUR ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME AUDIT, ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, CURRENTLY CONSIDERED PENDING, STATED THAT THE CITY SHOULD USE A PLACE BASED APPROACH FOR ADDRESSING THE ILLEGAL STREET MARKETS WHERE STOLEN GOODS ARE FENCED. LISA DEGUARD TALKED ABOUT THE PEANUT BUTTER BEING SPREAD REALLY THIN. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE WHEN WE SPREAD RESOURCES ALL OVER THE CITY, THAT GETS VERY THIN. IF WE FOCUS ON THE SPECIFIC, SMALL AREAS WHERE OVERDOSES AND CRIMES ARE CONCENTRATED, IT IS MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF THAT RESOURCE. IN THAT AUDIT, WE MENTIONED THE INTERSECTION OF 12th AND JACKSON. SUBSEQUENT TO OUR AUDITS, WITH FUNDING FROM SEATTLE POLICE FOUNDATION, AND THE CARE DEPARTMENTS, THE FRIENDS OF LITTLE SAIGON LAUNCHED A PLACE BASED PROBLEM SOLVING PROCESS USING THE VERY EXACT RESEARCH BASED FRAMEWORK THAT WE RECOMMENDED IN OUR AUDIT. THAT IS ALSO FROM SAMSA THAT LISA MENTIONED. THE FRIENDS OF LITTLE SAIGON COMPLETED THEIR PLANNING PROCESS IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR AND THEY KICKED OFF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE EVIDENCE BASED CRIME PREVENTION STRATEGIES. LAST WEEK THEY HOSTED A CELEBRATION OF THE FIRST 100 DAYS OF THEIR IMPLEMENTATION WORK. IT WAS THE 100 DAY CHALLENGE CELEBRATION. HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS FROM THE CELEBRATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE SLOYD ON THE LEFT SHOWS QUINN FAM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE FRIENDS OF LITTLE SAIGON. SHE'S WITH CINDY WONG FROM THE MAYOR 'S OFFICE. MANY OF THE EVIDENT BASED STRATEGY, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, MANY OF THE EVIDENCE BASED STRATEGIES INVOLVE WORKING WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE CARE DEPARTMENT OR SBU ON LITTER COLLECTION OR WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. CINDY WONG FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS BEEN COORDINATING ALL OF THESE ITEMS SO THAT NOTHING FALLS THROUGH CRACKS. SHE HAS MASSIVE SPREAD SHEETS TRACKING THESE ITEMS. THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF HIGH LEVEL INTERDEPARTMENTAL CORDINATION THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS NEEDED IN BOTH OUR AUDIT OF ORGANIZED RETAIL TRIEM AND OUR AUDIT OF OVERDOSING OF CRIMES. IT IS GRTIFYING TO SEE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS DOING CORDINATION IN LITTLE SAIGON. WE HOPE THIS CORDINATION WILL BECOME PART OF THE CITY'S MUSCLE MEMORY AND IT WILL BE USED IN OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY WHERE CRIMES ARE CONCENTRATED. WE WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN THE FOLLOW UP MEETING THIS SUMMER REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR AUDITS ON PLACES IN SEATTLE WHERE OVERDOSES AND CRIMES ARE CONCENTRATED BUT I WILL GIVE ONE UPDATE TODAY. THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT INVESTIGATE OVER TOSS. WECLUDED THAT OTHER CITIES DO INVESTIGATE FATAL OVDOSES WITH PARTNERS SUCH AS THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. THESE FOCUS ON THE DRUG ORGANIZATIONS CONTRIBUTING TO THE OVERDOSES. AT THE TIME OF OUR AUDIT, THE SEATTLE D.E.A. OFFICE SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP THE CITY INVESTIGATE FATAL OVERDOSES. THEIR OFFER STILL STANDS. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON WILL BE MEETING LATER THIS MONTH TO LEARN MORE. THAT'S IT FROM ME. I'M TURNING IT OVER TO DAVID JONES. >> THANK YOU. WHAT I WILL TALK ABOUT AS THE SLIDE SHOWS HERE, THREE REPORTS THAT WE DID ON THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY IS THE CITY AUDITOR DOING THE AUDIT OF THE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT. BEFORE THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL WAS CREATED, WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING AT EVERYTHING IN THE CITY INCLUDING THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE DID A COUPLE OF AUDITS BACK AND THESE COVERED 2015, 2016, 2017. WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING UP ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY CONTAINED A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS. THE FIRST ONE I WILL DRAW TO YOUR ATTENTION, WE WERE ASKED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WILL CALL THEM SPD FROM HERE ON IN, THEIR PROCESS FOR HANDLING PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS. WE DID THIS REPORT IN 2015. OF THE 13 RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL BUT ONE HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED. THE ONE THAT STILL REMAINS IS WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE SPD DO A THOROUGH STAFFING ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE ACTUALLY HOW MANY FOLKS THEY NEED TO HANDLE THE VOLUME OF PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS. THIS IS A COMPLICATED TOPIC BECAUSE THE VOLUME OF STUFF THAT SPD COULD POSSIBLY RELEASE HAS JUST GONE UP EXPONENTIALLY PARTICULARLY WITH BODY WORN CAMERAS WHICH BRINGS A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS BECAUSE THERE IS STUFF THAT HAS TO BE REDACTED BEFORE SPD RESPONDS TO A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUEST. CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN'T BE SHOWN LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THERE ARE LAWS THAT PRECLUDE SPD FROM TURNING THAT OVER IN A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUEST. ANY WAY, WE HAVE THIS RECOMMENDATIONS. SPD IS WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO COME UP WITH A GOOD DEFINITION OF WHAT A PUBLIC RECORDS OFFICER, THE PERSONS WHO HANDLE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS IN SPD, WHAT THEY SHOULD DO AND WHAT THEIR WORK LOAD SHOULD BE, WHAT'S A REASONABLE THING TO EXPECT PER INDIVIDUAL WHO HOLDS THIS POSITION. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THEIR ABILITY TO CONDUCT THIS STAFFING MODEL ANALYSIS. JUST TWO OTHER THINGS FOR YOUR INTEREST THAT THEY SHARED WITH US WHEN WE WERE FOLLOWING UP ON THIS, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THEIR PUBLIC DISCLOSURE REQUESTS, EVER INCREASING WORK LOAD. THEY ARE STREAM LINING THE PROCESSIES AND EXPLORING THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND MACHINE LEARNING TO AUTOMATE SOME OF THE LABOR INTENSIVE TASKS LIKE REDACTING THINGS, AND USING TECHNOLOGIES THAT CAN LOOK ACROSS MULTIPLE SYSTEMS TO DO KEY WORD SEARCHES. THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT. WE WILL KEEP FOLLOWING UP ON IT UNTIL WE SEE A RESOLUTION. I WILL MOVE ON THE NEXT REPORT. THERE IS ANOTHER REPORT WE DID IN 2016. IT WAS THEN THE INCOMING POLICE CHIEF KATHLEEN O'TOOLE. SHE HAD TURNS OF SPD'S MANAGEMENT OF OVERTIME AND THE COST AND THE STAFFING THAT WOULD RESULT AS A MATTER FROM HAVING TO DO A LOT OF OVERTIME. WE DID A REPORT , ISSUED IN 2016 IN APRIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL BY THE WAY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS BODY OF WORK. WE MADE 30 RECOMMENDATIONS, A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, SEVEN REMAIN PENDING. MOST ARE DUE TO SPD NEEDING A NEW SOFTWARE RESOLUTION TO DO THE MONITORING WE RECOMMEND IN THE REPORT. IT HAS BEEN A LONG CHASE FOR THEM BUT NOW THEY ARE HOPEFUL. THEY ARE WORKING ON PROCURING A SOFTWARE THAT IS DESIGNED TO FIRST RESPONDER AGENCY THAT THEY TELL US THEY THINK WILL PROVIDE THE CONTROL AND OVERSIGHT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE. THEY ARE HOPING TO IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEM IN 2025. WE WILL GO BACK TO CHECK TO SEE IF THAT'S THE CASE. LAST REPORT I WILL TALK ABOUT, THIS SPAWNED OUT OF THE WORK ON OVER SITE. IT LOOKS AT SPD'S STAFFING AND COST RECOVERY EFFORTS WHEN THEY STAFF SPECIAL EVENTS, THINGS LIKE PARADES IN SEATTLE WHERE THE PERMIT REQUIRES THERE BE A POLICE PRESENCE. THE REPORT HAD 19 RECOMMENDATIONS. 10 ARE STILL OPEN. THEY ARE OPEN FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A SOFTWARE SOLUTION THAT BOTH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT PROVIDES PERMITS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, THEIR IMPLEMENTING WILL HOPEFULLY ADDRESS THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE OTHER GROUP BASICALLY, POLICY DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ABOUT COST RECOVERY FOR EVENTS. HOWIA DEFINE EVENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU SHOULD CHARGE THEM, THE CITY SHOULD CHARGE FOR PROVIDING POLICE SERVICES AT THOSE EVENTS. THAT'S THOSE THREE REPORTS. NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO SARAH WHO WILL WRAP UP OUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, DAVE. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE REMAINING 74 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE STILL PENDING AT THE END OF 2024, THIS SPREAD SHOWS YOU THAT WE HAVE ALL THE WAY FROM 2015 AS DAVE WAS DISCUSSING WITH SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC RECORDS REPORT ALL THE WAY TO 2024 WHERE NOW YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE 74 RECOMMENDATIONS LEFT OVER FROM THAT YEAR. BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE YOU NOW TO OUR PUBLIC DASHBOARD AND THIS SHOULD BE LOADED HERE, HERE WE GO. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN SWITCH THE SCREEN. >> WONDERFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO ORIENT YOU TO THE DASHBOARD. THE RECOMMENDATION FOLLOW UP DASHBER. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A SMALL DROP DOWN MENU. YOU CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT PIECES OF DATA HERE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT BUT NOT QUITE CLICK ON THAT YET. HERE AT THE TOP, WE HAVE SOME TABS, SUMMARY. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SEEING BELOW, SUMMARY BY YEAR. WE CAN CLICK ON DEPARTMENT TO SEE SUMMARIES BY DEPARTMENT OR IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A SPECIFIC AUDIT, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AUDIT BUTTON AND THOSE WILL SHOW BELOW. THIS IS ONLY SHOWING THE CURRENT OPEN PENDING RECOMMENDATIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IF YOU CLICK ON THE FIRST COLUMN HERE, 2015, IF I CLICK ON THAT AND SCROLL DOWN TOTHE BOTTOM, THE TABLE BELOW IS DYNAMIC. THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHATEVER DATA YOU CLICKED ON IN THE CHART ABOVE WILL DISPLAY BELOW IN THE TABLE. YOU CAN CLICK RESET IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RESET THE TABLE. LET ME COME OVER HERE, I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION THAT THIS IS AN UP TO DATE DASHBOARD. THIS DOESN'T END AT 2024. IT HAS THE CURRENT 2025 REPORTS AS WELL. IF I CLIG ON THE 2025 COLUMN, YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN AND SEE THE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE ISSUED IN 2025. YOU CAN CHECK THOSE OUT AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. JUST TO SHOW YOU AGAIN, IFFIA GO BACK TO THE TOP AND CLICK ON ALL OPEN AND CLOSED RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU CAN SEE AND KIND OF GO BACK INTO THE HISTORY OF THE AUDIT REPORTS AND LOOK AT WHAT WAS DONE, WHEN THE REPORTS WERE ISSUED AND WHAT THE LAST RESOLUTION WAS. THEN THERE ARE SOME DONUTS IN THE MIDDLE YOU CAN CLICK ON IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CLICK ON A TOPIC, EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS AND THAT WILL SHOW YOU ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE CATEGORY. THAT IS AN OVERVIEW OF OUR DASHBOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONSIA MIGHT HAVE ABOUT OUR PRESENTATION. >> I'M LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS BUT WHILE THEY ARE MULLING, I WANT TO NOTE THAT INVESTIGATING OVERDOSES AS HOMICIDE, I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR ALONG TIME I FULLY SUPPORT THAT. I DID TALK TO CHIEFS OR THE BRASS AT A COUPLE OF KING COUNTY CITIES THAT DO DO THIS. I THINK IT WAS BELLEVUE AND KIRKLAND. BUT IT HAS TO BE TRACEABLE INFORMATION THERE BUT THERE IS NO REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT. I THINK YOUR MORE RECENT RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE FOCUS ON, LIMIT IT TO PERHAPS OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE CITY FUNDING. IN PROGRESS IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FROM THE AUDITORS TEAM BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. I FIND THIS HELPFUL AND I WANT TO WORK ON THE ISSUES WITHIN PUBLIC SAFETY. I WANT TO GETTIA ON MY CALENDAR FOR THE END OF THE YEAR, AS I BUILD OUT MY YEAR APPROACH TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WE CAN ENSURE WE GET DIFFERENT PIECES FROM THE AUDITOR'S WORK, AND PARTICULARLY IF THERE ARE OUTSTANDING ISSUES AND GET IT INTO THE COMMITTEE'S SCHEDULE. THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO FOLLOW UP AND WITH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD AND THE BAD AND MAYBE NOT TOO BAD BUT STILL NOT DONE AND TO SHOW THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND ALSO SHOW THE LINK BACK FROM WHAT YOUR WORK IS AND WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE THREE FOR THIS YEAR BUT HAVING THAT DISCUSSION COULD BE INFORMATIVE. YOU BE YOU KNOW, THAT CAME TO THIS COMMITTEE BUT WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT THAT IN MY COMMITTEE FOR EXAMPLE. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN COORDINATE BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES BUT DOING IT DELIBERATE TALLY IS THE BOTTOM LINE. YOU GET INTO THE RHYTHM OF THE YEAR AND PRESSING TOO MANY PIECES AND THIS BRIEFING IS GOOD TO SIT BACK AND REFLECT AND SAY OKAY. HOW CAN WE OPERATIONALIZE THESE AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE HELPFUL. MAYBE IN JANUARY AT THE START OF THE YEAR, SAY THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AND KIND OF PUT THE DIFFERENT PIECES ON NOTICE, WHETHER IT IS, WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IT IS. I THINK THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. I LIKE YOUR BRIEFING AND HOW COULD WE LEVERAGE IT GOING FORWARD. I GUESS THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. >> WE EWOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU COUNCILMEMBER AND OF COURSE THE COMMITTEE TO DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. >> EXCELLENT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY LOOKING FOR OTHER HANDS UP. I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE RAISING THEIR HANDS. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAD A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION WITH ARCHITECTS IN HERE THIS PAST FEBRUARY. AFTER YOU HAD PRESENTED THE FIRST ROUND OF CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING AUDIT AND THE PANEL RECOMMENDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WERE PUTTING A PACKAGE OF LEGISLATION TOGETHER TO ADDRESS BUT MY FIRST LINE AT THAT POINT WAS NO NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL FOR PERMITTING PROBLEMS, JUST IMPLEMENT THE AUDITOR'S REPORT. SO I DO SPREAD -- YOU GET A LOT OF SECOND HAND PLAY FROM MY PRAISING OF YOUR WORK AND I WILL HAVE TO ALSO NOTE THAT SINCE THE CONCENTRATION AND OVER LAPPING OF FATAL OVERDOSES, PLACE BASED POLICING IS IN THE LEXICON SO I CREDIT THE INTEREST THAT IT GENERATED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE FINAL THING I WILL SAY IS I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A DEEPER DIVE WITH I BELIEVE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, NATALIE WALTEN ANDERSON LATER THIS YEAR AND THE OTHER PERSON THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HAVING. >> WE WILL HAVE A HOST OF STAKE HOLDERS AS WE DID PREVIOUSLY FROM ORGANIZEIZED CRIME AUDITS. >> TO GIVE AN UPDATES ON THE RECOMMENDATION IMPLEMENTATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I VALUE YOUR WORK AND I HAVE BEEN PUTTING YOU THROUGH THE RINGER THIS YEAR BUT TAKE IT SIMPLY AS A SIGN OF APPRECIATION FOR THE CRUCIAL ROLE YOU PLAY. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COUNCIL SUPPORT. >> OH, WAIT, COUNCILMEMBER LIVERA, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP. >> THAT'S OKAY. I GOT KICKED OUT OF MY DEVICE, MY LAPTOP AND HAD TO GIN BY PHONE BUT I WANTED TO THANK THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE FOR ALL OF THE IMPORTANT WORK THEY DO. IT REALLY HELPS COUNCIL TO DO ITS JOB WHEN WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION. IT GOES TO THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE IMPLEMENTING SERVICES AND OUR WORK AND IT GOES TO SHOW WHERE WE CAN DO BETTER AND THEN IT GIVES US RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF GOOD GOVERNANCE. AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE REPORTS THE AUDITOR HAS DONE ARE REPORTS THAT I HAVE COME TO IN THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO UNDERSCORE THEIR WORK IN TERMS OF THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO. I KNOW THERE IS AN OUTSTANDING AUDIT YOU ARE WORKING WITH ME ON AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT RELATED TO HOUSING VACANCIES AND HOUSING PROVIDERS, FOR OUR HOUSING PROVIDERS. BUT MORE TO COME ON THAT, I'M SURE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, JUST TO SAY WE ARE EXCITED THAT COUNCILMEMBER PRESIDENT NELSON HAS SUPPORTED LOCKING AT SAFETY AND SERVICES AND PERMANENT HOUSING SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF SEATTLE. AND DR. CLAUDIA GROEGS LEADING OUR EFFORT ON THAT AUDIT. WE ELOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING WITH YOU FURTHER. THANK YOU FOR THE REQUEST. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. UNTIL LATER. FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC OUT THERE, THE STATUS REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION OF AUDITOR IS LINKED TO THE AGENDA AS WELL. WILL THE CLERK READ ITEM 3 INTO THE RECORD? >> A RESOLUTION ADOPTING GENERAL RULES AND PROCEDURE OF THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL SUPERSEDING RESOLUTION 09326 FOR BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO AS NOTED EARLIER, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF REVISING THE RULES EVERY TWO YEARS. WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL PASS THIS OVER TO, THIS HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY, A COLLECTIVE EFFORT. IT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS. SO THE PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER WILL GIVE AN OVER VIEW AND FOR ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS THAT ARE LISTENING OUT THERE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEXT DISCUSSION AS WELL. SO WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND BEGIN YOUR PRESENTATION? >> AMELIA SANCHEZ, CHIEF DEPUTY CLERK. >> BEN NOBLES CENTRAL STAFF DIRECTOR. >> CITY CLERK. I'M GOING TO KICK IT OFF BY INTRODUCING EVERYTHING AND HAND IT OVER TO THE EXPERTS. GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M JOINED BY MEMBER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNCIL RULES REVIEW WORKING GROUP. THE WORKING GROUP INCLUDED COUNCIL PRESIDENT SARA NELSON, HER CHIEF OF STAFF, DEPUTY CITY CLERK PHIL WOODSMITH AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS GARY SMITH AND BRANDON ISLET. THE WORKING GROUP CONVENED TO DISCUSS POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS ON THE ROLES AND TO PREPARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. THE GROUP DEVELOPED A FINAL AMENDED VERSION OF THE RULES WHICH WAS INTRODUCED AS RESOLUTION 32173 ON JULY 1. THESE AMENDMENTS WERE SENT TO COUNCILMEMBERS ON JUNE 2 FOR FEEDBACK ALONG WITH THE MEMO PROVIDING THE 2025 COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES UPDATE. THE TEAM WILL PROVIDE A SUMMARY AND HIGHLIGHT PROPOSED CHANGES AND REVIEW PROCESS FOR ANY AMENDMENTS THAT MAY BE REQUESTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MOVING FORWARD. NOTICE THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING AMENDMENTS TO THE RULES. THE REVIEW SCHEDULE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SEATTLE DAILY JOURNAL OF COMMERCE ON JUNE 26. NOTICES AND COPY OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS WERE SENTD TO COUNCILMEMBERS, OFFICE OF CITY RIGHTS, LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF SEATTLE, THE MUPT LEAGUE AND THE CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION THE SAME DAY. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WAS JOUN 26 UNTIL THE DATE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE RULES. SO FAR WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS. COMMENTS RECEIVED BY OUR OFFICE WILL BE SENT TO COUNCILMEMBERS. ON JULY 6, CENTRAL STAFF DIRECTOR BEN NOBLES SENT A MEMO REGARDING RESOLUTION 70723 WHICH INCLUDED BACKGROUND INFORMATION AND A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. OTHER POLICY ISSUES FOR CONSIDERATION AND PROPOSALS THAT THE WORKING GROUP DECLINED TO RECOMMEND. WE WILL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION IN THE PRESENT TATION SHORTLY. FINAL REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE AMENDMENTS IS EXPECTED AT&T THE JULY 24 COMMITTEE MEETING. THE RESOLUTION WILL BE PRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION ON EITHER AUGUST 5 OR 12. FOR NOW, WE ENCOURAGE YOUR FULL ENGAGEMENT AND WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE DIRECT FEEDBACK, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR SEEK CLARIFICATION DURING THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR THE WORKING GROUP, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TOPIC. AND YOUR FEEDBACK. NOW I WILL HAND IT OVER TO STAFF DIRECTOR BEN NOBLE. >> I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS. AS YOU NOTE IN RES BUGZ 32173 THERE ARE 15 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE COUNCIL RULES. I WILL GO THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY. YOU HAVE IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS IN THE PACKET, A HANDY SPREAD SHEET THAT GOES THROUGH AND ITEMIZES THESE. I WILL TAKE THE LIST VIA THE SPREAD SHEET, EACH OF THE 15 AMENDMENTS. WE WILL HIT THEM AS WE GO. PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT A PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT ONE IS IN RULE 3A AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A TECHNICAL CHANGE. IT ADDS A FOOT NOTE TO SM3.140.70 MEMORIALIZING THAT BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023, COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRED THAT ALL BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS INCLUDE A SUMMARY OF FISCAL NOTES. THIS IS HERE TO TELL YOU THIS IS NOT A WAIVABLE RULE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN CODIFIED IN THE SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE. MOVING ON TO THE SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THIS IS OUT OF RULE 4B , RULE PERTAINING TO GUIDANCE FOR COUNCILMEMBERS. IT ANSWERS THE QUESTION, WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR A MOTION TO PASS WHEN YOUR TABLE SAYS SOME MOMENT NEEDS A MAJORITY, WHAT DOES THAT MAJORITY OF, OF THE FULL COUNCIL OF THOSE PRESENT VOTING? THE LITTLEAST REFK IS ANSWERING THE QUESTION BY SAYING ANY TIME IT SAYS A MAJORITY IN THE TABLE, IT MEANS A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT AND VOTING. IF YOU ARE LOOBING AT PARLIAMENTARY MOTION, AND WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR THE MOTION TO PASS. MOVING ON TO PROPOSED CHANGE NUMBER 3, THIS IS A CHANGE THAT REORGANIZES THE RULES A BIT RATHER THAN HAVING A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE. I PUT THIS IN THE TECHNICAL CATEGORY AS WELL. IT IS AMENDING RULE 4 AND RULE 5, JUST TO MOVE UP IN THE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE TEXT. THE PROXY VOTES, TIE VOTE AND MOTION TO RECONSIDER SECTION. PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN RULE FIVE. THIS IS MOVING THEM UP INTO RULE 4 WITH OTHER LIKE MOTIONS AND PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURES. NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE FOR YOU TO WORRY ABOUT HERE. THIS IS A RESTRUCTURE. MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 4. ITEM NUMBER 4 CLARIFIES THAT THOSE WHO ABSTAINED OR OTHERWISE BEEN DISQUALIFIED, RECUSAL SITUATIONS, THEY AREN'T VOTING WHEN THEY ARE ASKED TO -- WHEN IT IS THEIR TERM IN TERMS O OF THE ROLL CALL. THAT THEY ARE SAYING ABSTAIN OR PRESENT RATHER THAN VOTING BY SAYING ABSTAIN OR PRESENT T. THERE IS NO VOTE MECHANISM HAPPENING. THAT IS IMPORTANT IN SITUATIONS OF RECUSAL WHERE SOMEONE IS NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE. WE WANTED TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY ARE NOT VOTING WHEN THEY SAY ABSTAIN OR PRESENT T. THEY ARE MERELY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IN THE ROLL CALL. NUMBER FIVE, THE FIFTH PROPOSED CHANGE COMINGS IN AT RULE SIX AND RULE SEVEN. THIS IS CLARIFYING EDIT RATHER THAN SUBSTANTIVE EDIT. THIS CLARIFIES WHICH FULL COUNCIL THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION WILL BE REFERRED TO IF IT IS THE FIRST FULL COUNCIL FOLLOWING THE COMMITTEE MEETING OR THE SECOND FULL COUNCIL FOLLOWING. BEFORE THE LANGUAGE FWAFB AT SOME POINTS A FALSE INFERENCE THAT WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT A THIRD FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING. CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH YOU HAVE A YOUNANIMOUS VOTE, THE PIECE OF BUSINESS, PIECE OF LEGISLATION WILL GO TO THE FIRST FULL COUNCIL MEETING FOLLOWING. INSTANCES IN WHICH IT WAS EITHER A NONUNANIMOUS VOTE, SPLIT VOTE OR IN INSTANCES IN WHICH THE COMMITTEE WAS MEETING AFTER AND THE VOTE WAS TAKEN AFTER THURSDAY AT 1:00 P.M., THE PIECE OF BUSINESS WILL GO TO THE SECOND MEETING. WE ARE AWARE THERE IS THE FIRST FULL COUNCIL MEETING FOLLOWING THE COMMITTEE OR SECOND. WE ARE NEVER IN A WORLD IN WHICH A PIECE OF BUSINESS UNLESS OTHERWISE WOULD GO TO A THIRD FULL COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS A TECHNICAL CHANGE CLARIFYING THE COUNCIL'S INTENT. MOVING ONTO THE SIXTH PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THIS IS MEMORIALIZING CURRENT PRACTICE AND CREATING A DEFAULT THAT THE VIDEO IMAGES OF COUNCIL CHAMBERS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ARE GOING TO BE BROADCAST ON THE SEATTLE CHANNEL. RATHER THAN HAVE THE RULES ALLOW FOR DISCRETION, IT IS ALLOWING FOR DEFAULT IN WHICH THE IMAGES WILL BE BROADCAST. THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE HAPPENING WITHIN THE SIXTH AMENDMENT. IN THE SEVENTH PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THIS IS COMING IN FOR RULE F AND 7E, RELATING TO DUTIES OF CHAIR FOR STANDING COMMITTEES AND SELECT COMMITTEES. THIS CONCERNS THE TIMING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. RIGHT NOW FOR WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT, THE TIMING OF WHEN SOMEONE CAN SUBMIT IT IS ANNOUNCED IN THE MEETING AGENDA AND AVAILABLE ONLINE. THIS CHANGE, PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE RULES WOULD MEMORIALIZE THAT CURRENT PRACTICE AND REMOVE LANGUAGE HERE THAT ALLOWS THE CHAIR DURING THE MEETING TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE SUBMISSION OF WRITTEN COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC. SINCE THAT IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF IN OUR PUBLISHED MEETING NOTICES THAT HAPPENED PROIR, THIS INDIVIDUAL DISCRETION TO THE CHAIR IS NOT PART OF CURRENT PRACTICE. SO UPDATING OUR RULES TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PRACTICE. MOVING ON TO THE EIGHTH PROPOSED CHANGE. THIS IS A CHANGE TO RULE 7, PART HAD H RELATING TO THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE. THIS WOULD UPDATE THE QUORUM FOR THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE FROM THREE MEMBERS TO FIVE MEMBERS GIVEN THAT IT IS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, THAT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH OUR PRACTICE ACROSS OTHER SELECT COMMITTEES THAT ARE COMPRISED OF THE ENTIRE BODY. NOW PROPOSED AMENDMENT NINE ALSO RELATES TO THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE AND SPECIFICALLY THE ADOPTION OF A BALANCED BUDGET PACKAGE. THIS SET OF AMENDMENTS WOULD MEMORIALIZE THE CURRENT PRACTICE THAT A BALANCING PACKAGE IS A SINGULAR PUBLICATION RATHER THAN AN INITIAL AND THEN REVISED PUBLICATION. IT UPDATES THE LANGUAGE IN THE RULES TO OUR CURRENT PRACTICE. I WOULD NOTE THAT WITHIN AMENDMENT 9 THERE IS ALSO AN UPDATE TO MEMORIALIZE THE FACT THAT AMENDMENTS TO THE BALANCING PACKAGE MUST BE SELF BALANCING. THALITY THAT THE MEANS A PROPOSED INCREASE WOULD BE OFFSET BY A REVENUE OR CHANGE IN POLICY THAT WOULD RESULT IN A BY ANY CHANCED PACKAGE. THIS IS ALREADY LANGUAGE THAT APPEARS IN THE YEAR TWO BIENNIAL RULES BUT IT WOULD BE PLACED ALWAYS WITHIN YEAR ONE TO CLARIFY THAT REGARDLESS OF IF WE ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR OF THE BIENNIAL BUDGET, THE PACKAGES NEED TO BE SELF BALANCING. MOVING ON TO THE TENTH PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THIS IS TO COUNCIL RULE 9A. SIMILAR TO ONE THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THIS WOULD INCREASE THE QUORUM FOR COUNCIL BRIEFINGS FROM THREE TO FIVE. I THINK AS A MATTER OF COURSE, GIVEN IT IS ALSO A MEETING OF THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, WE EWOULD STANDARDIZE WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THE QUORUM TO BE FIVE INSTEAD OF THREE . ALL RIGHT. FOR PROPOSED AMENDMENT NUMBER 11, THIS ALSO CONCERNS RULE 11, SUBPART C RELATING TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND PUBLIC COMMENT. THE AMENDMENT HERE WOULD CHANGE THE DEFAULT RULE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AT COMMITTEE CONCERN AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE. INSTEAD THE DEFAULT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE ABOUT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THE COMMITTEE CHAIR HAS THE DISCRETION TO ACCEPT COMMENT ON MATTERS WITHIN THE PURVIEW AND THAT WOULD BE NOTICED ON THE COMMITTEE'S AGENDA. AGAIN, A SHIFT IN THE DEFAULT PROVISION FROM ALLOWING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE BOTH MATTERS ON THE AGENDA AND IN PURVIEW. INSTEAD THE DEFAULT WOULD BE PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS OF THE AGENDA WITH DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO EXPAND PUBLIC COMMENT ON MATTERS WITHIN JURISDICTION OF THE COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. FOR ITEM NUMBER 12, STICKING WITH THE SAME RULE 11, SUBPART C RELATING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WOULD ADJUST WHO MAY EXTEND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT IS SET AT DEFAULT 20 MINUTES. UNDER EXISTING RULES, IT IS THE PRESIDING OFFICER THAT MAY ELECT TO EXTEND PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS WOULD CHANGE THE DEFAULT TO ALLOW FOR A MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT AND VOTING TO EXTEND PUBLIC COMMENT. A CHANGE IN WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE THAT EXTENSION. IN PROPOSED AMENDMENT NUMBER 13, WE ARE AGAIN STAYING IN RULE 11, SUBPART C RELATING TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND THIS REMOVES THE PRESENT DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT TO AUTHORIZE SOMEONE WHEN THEY MAKE A REQUEST OUT OF THEIR OWN PERSONAL SAFETY, THEY MAKE A REQUEST DURING PUBLIC COMMENT NOT TO SHARE THEIR NAME, THIS CHANGES THE DEFAULT TO AUTOMATICALLY GRANT THE INDIVIDUAL THE RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR NAME WITHHOLD SO THEY CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE PROVIDING THEIR OWN SAFETY. PROPOSED CHANGE NUMBER 14 IS STILL IN RULE 11 BUT THIS PART, SUBSECTION D GENERALLY REGARDING THE DISRUPTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS OR COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THIS IS A CLARIFYING EDIT. I WILL SPEAK TO THIS IN OUR FINAL PROPOSED AMENDMENT AT THE SAME TIME. THESE TWO ARE CLARIFYING EDITS THAT CLARIFY WHICH ENTITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ISSUING NOTIFICATION THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN EXCLUDED FROM A COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO AN APPEAL. IN PRACTICE IT IS THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK THAT PROVIDES THAT NOTICE TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS BEEN EXCLUDED, AFFORDING THEM NOTICE OF RIGHTS TO APPEAL AND PROVIDING A TIME FRAME FOR THAT. THIS CLARIFYING EDIT JUST PROVIDES MORE NOTICE TOTHE PUBLIC ON WHICH ENTITY IT IS THAT IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT MATTER. VERY SIMILARLY, OUR LAST PROPOSED COUNCIL RULE CHANGE IS TO NOTE AND CLARIFY IN THE RULES THAT THE APPEAL THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN EXCLUDED FROM A MEETING MIGHT SUBMIT IS GOING TO BE AN APPEAL SUBMITTED TO THE CITY CLERK RATHER THAN TRYING TO PROVIDE AN APPEAL FROM AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE BODY THAT IT'S THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THE SAME OFFICE THAT PROVIDED THE NOTICE THAT WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OF APPEAL FROM AN INDIVIDUAL. THOSE ARE THE 15 PROPOSED EDITS TO THE COUNCIL RULES. >> I'M LOOKING TO MY COLLEAGUES TOSEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> I'LL BE SUPER QUICK. THANK YOU ALL BECAUSE I KNOW WE ARE GETTING INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON. THANK YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THESE AMENDMENTS. THEY ARE PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD AND IT SEEMS THEY CREATE MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL, ENHANCES OUR OPERATIONS AS A COUNCIL AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. YOU SEE HOW THE COUNCIL OPERATES AND IT MAKES SENSE AND VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK FOR WALKING US THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS A LOT. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CHAIR. YES, I TOO APPRECIATE IT AND I APPRECIATE WALKING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE IT JOGS THE MIND OF THE VARIOUS PIECES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND HOW WE DO DIFFERENT THINGS DIFFERENTLY. I SEE THE LOGIC. I ALWAYS HAVE THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE AND DON'T RESTRICT IT TO THE DAY'S AGENDA. IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THE DYNAMICS AND TIMES AND PIECES. SO THANK YOU AND ANYTHING THAT CAN ASSIST IN THE SMOOTHER, UPERATING ENVIRONMENT HERE AT CITY COUNCIL IS ALWAYS WELCOMED, SO THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, DID OUR ASSISTANT CLERK HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? SHE HAS BEEN QUIET AT THE END? >> I DON'T. I THINK LAUREN CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE PROPOSING AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING IN 2026. >> THANK YOU. I'M GLAD I GOT HER VOICE OFFICIALLY INTO THE MEETING, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBERS, I WANT TO STEP IN AT THAT MOMENT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS TO COME FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK, THIS PROJECT WAS VERY MUCH CARRIED ON THE SHOULDERS OF OUR CHIEF DEPUTY CLERK AMELIA. THANK YOU FOR HAVING HER SPEAK UP AND GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE HER THE MANY CUDOSE SHE DESERVES. >> COUNCILMEMBER SOLOMON? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JUST A COUPLE CLARIFYING POINTS. AMENDMENT 6, REGARDING BROADCAST, THE DEFAULT IS THAT DURING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHATEVER, THE DEFAULT IS TO DISPLAY THE CHAMBER? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> DOES THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE AT THAT POINT HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ASK THAT IT BE OTHERWISE? >> SO CURRENTLY UNDER THE RULES THAT IS THE DYNAMIC. EACH CHAIR HAD THE INDIVIDUAL DISCRETION TO ELECT HOW IT WILL OPERATE AND WHETHER THE VISUAL WOULD BE DISPLAYED ON THE CHANNEL. THIS WOULD CHANGE THE DEFAULT SO EACH COMMITTEE >> THIS IS RULE THE DEFAULT WOULD BE ADJUSTED. >> RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT CERTAIN INSTANCES WHERE THINGS HAVE GOTTEN UNRULY TO THE POINT WHERE IT SEEMS THAT THE POINT IS TO GET ON CAMERA AND MAKE A SPECTACLE. SO TAKING THAT AWAY TO DIFFUSE SOME OF THAT FUEL IS WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION. >> WE ALWAYS SAY THAT PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE RELATED TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR IN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE. WE GET MUCH MORE THAN THAT, SO AT THIS POINT, WE'LL JUST ROLL WITH IT, AND IS THAT PRETTY MUCH HOW WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE? >> WITHIN THE COUNCIL RULES, SPECIFICALLY RULE 11D AROUND DISRUPTION, ONE OF THE ELEMENTS FOR DISRUPTION IS IF A MATTER -- IS IF AN INDIVIDUAL PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT HAS NOT KEPTKEPT TO AUTHORIZED AREAS, THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT AGAIN, IT'S AT THE PRESIDING OFFICER'S DISCRETION AND HOW CLOSELY THEY WOULD LIKE TO REGULATE THOSE MATTERS AND DIFFERENT COMMITTEE CHAIRS CAN COME TO DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, BUT THIS IS A POLICY CHOICE HERE AS TO HOW YOUR DEFAULT COUNCIL RULES ARE SET UP WHETHER YOU ALLOW ITEMS ONLY ON THE AGENDA OR MORE EXPANSIVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMITTEE. >> OKAY. AND THE FINAL ONE IS AND IF THE DECISION IS MADE TO DO THE MEETING REMOTELY AND DOES THAT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO REMOTE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN SOME STAY IN CHAMBERS AND SOME GO TO THEIR OFFICES AND IS THERE A DEFAULT FOR THAT? >> THE COUNCIL RULES ARE SILENT AS TO THAT MATTER. IT IS AN AREA THAT COULD BE REGULATED UNDER THE COUNCIL RULES, BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE -- THAT THE DECISION THAT I HAVE MADE IN THE PAST TO CONTINUE OUR MEETINGS ON ZOOM HAD TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT DID NOT APPEAR THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE DISRUPTION IN THE CHAMBERS, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKED OR REQUESTED OR INSTRUCTED BY OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE VACATE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BECAUSE IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT REMAIN AT THE DEUS AND THAT LEADS TO PEOPLE REMAINING AND OFTENTIMES CONTINUING DISRUPTION IN CHAMBERS WHICH PUTS THE CITY CLERK WHO IS BY THEMSELVES USUALLY RIGHT HERE AND IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE IT WENT DOOR TO DOOR AND DID MAKE THE CASE THAT IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND NOT A SORT OF AN ARBITRARY USE OF POWER ISSUE. YES? >> THAT HELPS CLARIFY. >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT THAT I REQUESTED HAVING TO DO WITH WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT CAN BE ABOUT. IN MY FIRST TWO YEARS THE RULE WAS THAT A CITY -- A CHAIR COULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED ONLY ON THE AXE JENDA AGENDA ITEMS OR THE WORK PROGRAM OF THE COMMITTEE WHICH PRETTY MUCH MEANS ANYTHING BECAUSE PEOPLE FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT LINKED TO THE COMMITTEE, AND SO I -- IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WHATEVER TO THE CLERK, THE PRESIDING OFFICER DECIDES BE CONSISTENT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT TO EXPECT FROM YOUR COMMITTEE, AND SO I CHOSE THE MORE LIMITED PUBLIC COMMENT AND HERE'S WHY. COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET INTO THE MINUTIA, TO THE WEEDS OF THE LEGISLATION BEFORE US OR THE POLICY ISSUES BEFORE US. THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING WITHIN THE COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM OR UNDER OUR PURVIEW AT THE FULL COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND SO I CHOSE TO LIMIT IT TO THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA JUST BECAUSE THOSE CAN BE PRETTY COMPLEX AND AT THAT POINT I WAS DEALING WITH VERY COMPLETION LEGISLATION. THAT RULE WAS CHANGED RIGHT BEFORE THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND IT WAS CHANGED MIDSTREAM IN MY TERMS SO FAR AND IT'S BEEN EXPANDED AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT COMMENT FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE COMMITTEE WORK PURVIEW OR WORK PROGRAM, AND SO I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS STILL A -- IT WAS A CLEAR DESING DESIGNATION OF WHAT FOLKS CAN COMMENT ON AND IT ALLOWS US TO USE OUR TIME MORE PREDICTABLY TO GET TO THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA AND WITHOUT WONDERING HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE DEVOTED TO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT MIGHT NOT BE DIRECTLY GERMANE TO THE LEGISLATION BEFORE US. SO, ANYWAY, IT'S KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS THAT I WAS IN OFFICE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW, IF I DIDN'T MENTION IT BEFORE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE RULES WERE PUT FORWARD BY THE FOLKS AT THE TABLE WHO ARE EXPERT IN KNOWING WHAT IS NOT WORKING REALLY WELL AND HAVE SOLUTIONS FOR CHANGES. YOU PUT FORWARD A LOT MORE AND SEVERAL OTHER RULE CHANGES AND SOME OF THEM WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY MEANINGFUL LIKE WHEN AMENDMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED AND HEARD AT THE TABLE AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH WALK- S AND I REALIZE THERE IS INTEREST BY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TIGHTEN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT I CHOSE NOT TO PUT IT ON HERE JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO BE VERY COMPLEX AND WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH, BUT IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT OPEN TO THAT BEING PUT FORWARD BY SOMEBODY ELSE. WITH THAT, I SAY THANK YOU, VERY, VERY MUCH. THIS SEEMS REALLY -- WELL, IT IS REALLY DETAIL- ORIENTED, BUT THESE ARE THE RULES THAT DE15 DEFINE OUR CONDUCT AT THE DEUS AND IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SO THANK YOU. OH, WAIT, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING A BIT LATER TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. >> IF THERE IS NO MORE BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, IT IS 4:36 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.