Here is the transcribed town hall meeting with speaker names added based on the context provided. Note: Some names in the original transcript were phonetically misspelled (e.g., "Burden" for "Britton") and have been corrected for the speaker tags. [00:00] **Chair Frazier:** Time we'll move on to roll call. I'll turn it over to Commissioner Rasmussen. [00:03] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Commissioner Britton? [00:04] **Commissioner Britton:** Here. [00:05] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Commissioner Fisher? [00:06] **Commissioner Fisher:** Here. [00:07] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Chair Frazier? [00:08] **Chair Frazier:** Here. [00:09] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Commissioner Knievel? [No response] Commissioner Rasmussen? Here. Commissioner Stevens? [00:10] **Commissioner Stevens:** Here. [00:11] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Commissioner Wright? [00:12] **Commissioner Wright:** Here. [00:13] **Chair Frazier:** Thank you. Thank you. Item three is approval of the agenda. Unless there are any additions or modifications, I'd look for a motion to approve. [00:15] **Commissioner Fisher:** Motion to approve. [00:16] **Chair Frazier:** I have a motion to approve from Commissioner Fisher. I have a second? [00:17] **Commissioner Wright:** Second. [00:18] **Chair Frazier:** Second from Commissioner Wright. All those in favor say aye. [00:19] **Commissioners:** Aye. [00:20] **Chair Frazier:** All say no. Motion carries 6-0. We'll move on to item four which is Open Forum. This is the time where anyone who's in the audience would like to speak on something that is not on the agenda tonight can approach the podium, state your name and address for the record. So this time I'll open Open Forum again. Anything that's not on tonight's agenda someone would like to address? All right, seeing none, I'll close Open Forum. [00:30] Item five is Chair's explanation of the hearing process. The Planning Commission is a volunteer advisory group to the City Council. One of the commission's functions is to hold public hearings and make recommendations on land use and zoning matters. The purpose of these public hearings is to provide an opportunity for each applicant and citizens to present information, ask questions, and express opinions. Since these proceedings are televised and recorded for the public record, anyone wishing to speak up must step to the podium and give their name and address before addressing the commission. Staff reports are prepared and provided to the applicant and Planning Commission in advance of the meeting. The first step in the hearing will be for staff to present a summary of the report. The applicant will then have the opportunity to briefly explain the proposal and provide additional information or comments. Anyone wishing to speak in favor or against the proposal will then be heard. Upon completion of the testimony, the hearing will be closed to public comment. The Planning Commission will then discuss and act on the matter. Two complete agenda packets are available for viewing on the back table; please do not remove those items. The City Council will act on these items at their meeting on Wednesday, March 15, 2023, which starts at 7:00 PM. [01:15] With that, we'll move on to item 6.1, which is Rocket Car Wash (SP2023-004, CUP2023-004, and PUD 2023-004) with Connor Jakes presenting. [01:25] **Connor Jakes (Staff):** Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. Great to be with you this evening for an exciting redevelopment project. The proposal before you is for a Rocket Car Wash site and for your consideration as a site plan review, planned unit development, and conditional use permit. The proposed location is the current Big O Tire site off of East Point Douglas Road South. Adjacent to that is the current Wendy's restaurant and also Target, and also just to make note, it's adjacent to Jamaica Avenue South as well as Highway 61. [01:45] A little background on the site: the site was originally developed in 1991 for a proposed automotive repair use, and then in 1992 that applicant actually came back and proposed a minor subdivision lot split. The intent at the time was for that northern part of the building to be used for potential office tenants, and then currently it's occupied by Big O Tires and it's been occupied by an automotive repair use ever since the original approvals in 1991. [02:05] The proposal before you is for a drive-through car wash. A drive-through car wash is a conditional use within the mixed-use zoning district, and we'll also note the applicant is requesting a planned unit development. Initially, as we work through plans with the applicant, it was clear that there was going to be some flexibility required, mostly due to a 30-foot easement that runs in the northwest and southwest property lines as seen here. The two items of flexibility requested will be the front yard parking lot setback and then the overstory tree count, just because that plantable area is pretty minimized due to that easement. [02:35] Moving into the site plan review, the site access is off the internal private drive. This is the same way that Wendy's gets their access as well as the other commercial businesses through here. There is a separate entrance/exit lane proposed that's split by a pork chop in order to improve site flow and just ease of use for car wash users. I also note the trash enclosure is towards the entrance of the site and those materials will match the principal structure. The building does meet all applicable setbacks. [03:00] Moving into vehicle parking, there's 20 stalls proposed. Talking with the applicant, it was clear that this was sufficient enough for the use, considering the principal use is the car wash and accessories the use of vacuums. Also taking into account the amount of time that it takes a person to kind of vacuum out their car, it became clear that 20 stalls was sufficient enough and ample as people kind of file in and out. Also noting stacking, there are 34 stacking spots proposed; code requires four. The applicant wanted to minimize any negative impacts to adjacent properties, especially the idea of kind of backing up into that kind of private drive access influencing access to Target and the other sites, so they wanted to provide ample stacking there. [03:40] In the architecture, as you're well aware, code requires 65% class one materials. The applicant is proposing a substantial increase of that at 83%, and it was clear from initial conversations they recognized the site is a prominent spot in the community with access right off the highway and Jamaica, so they wanted to kind of build up that architecture just to make it look well-rounded and nice. The material list is before you as well as some renderings. The applicant also did provide some renderings from the adjacent roadways; this rendering is from Jamaica Avenue South to get an idea of what that would look like, and then this one's from Highway 61. [04:20] The landscape plan does meet all requirements besides the overstory trees as mentioned before. I will also note that code requires all the stacking lanes and stacking be screened. The applicant achieved this by using the principal structure to screen from Jamaica Avenue, then landscaping throughout the rest of the site. One thing I did want to note was that adjacent to that access there's a two-foot-tall landscape berm to kind of screen any initial stacking. As far as outdoor lighting, it does meet all code requirements; no negative impacts to the adjacent properties. With that, I'll leave the recommendation before you. Staff is available for any questions as well as the applicant is in attendance. [05:00] **Chair Frazier:** All right, thank you. Any questions for staff? Commissioner Britton? [05:03] **Commissioner Britton:** In regards to the trash enclosure, I know that you guys have rules for distances and things along those lines. Is that enough room for a garbage truck to point in that way and then be able to back out? [05:10] **Connor Jakes (Staff):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Britton, it does meet all the setbacks. In this case, the applicant is proposing that the on-site employees would pull out those trash bins and then the garbage truck would pull straight in and then they'd roll them back into the enclosure. [05:22] **Commissioner Britton:** Okay, and then that's also a condition of approval as well to have those within the enclosure? [05:25] **Connor Jakes (Staff):** Correct. [05:26] **Commissioner Britton:** Okay, thank you. [05:27] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Regarding the overstory trees, I know there's that large 30-foot utility easement on two sides of the property. Are we not able to plant trees in that area because of the utilities, or can you explain that a little bit? [05:35] **Connor Jakes (Staff):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Rasmussen, that is correct. Generally, we like to keep all landscape plantings out of that easement. Sometimes there's like smaller shrubs allowed, but generally we try to keep overstory trees out of there, just taking into account root systems and keeping them away from any of the infrastructure in there. [05:50] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Understood, thanks. [05:51] **Chair Frazier:** Any other questions for staff? All right, thank you. At this time the applicant would like to approach the podium and provide any additional comment? [06:00] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Thanks for your time this evening. My name is Jeremiah Harder, I'm the Director of Project Management and Real Estate Development for City Ventures, the parent company of Rocket Car Wash. My address is 222 South 14th Street, Suite 1404, Omaha, Nebraska. We appreciate the time. We've worked with the Planning and Zoning staff here to work through this site. Obviously, we've noted this site as a site that we would like to move forward at building. We are currently building out our Minneapolis and surrounding area market right now. This is one of several sites; I think we're looking at between eight to ten sites across the entire metro area. We currently have 30 active sites across the United States; by year-end, we’ll be close to about 60 to 75 sites active across the United States. [06:45] This model here is our standard building model. It's one of those that we have spent a lot of time on to ensure that it's a quality building. We don't want to put up anything that's quick and easy. Typically, our building costs are 30% higher than our competitors and our equipment costs are twice the cost of our competitors, but we do that for a reason. We want a quality building and a quality experience for our customers. Everything we do is to better improve our customers' experience, and that goes down to the layout of the site where we've talked about—where Connor was gracious enough to explain—a little bit about that pork chop at the entrance to make sure that there's no confusion in vehicle traffic flow. [07:20] A few of the things that we do that are a little bit different than you'll see on your normal express car wash is we do have several amenities that we offer to our members and to the public. We offer free detailing materials; if you need to come in and want to detail the interior of your car, we have our members' room where there's mat wash machines. We have specialized custom machines that we have designed ourselves that are able to accept like the WeatherGuard formed mats that can't typically go through those machines. Like I said, everything we've done here is really to push the customer experience as well as being a positive influence in the community. At this point in time, any questions you guys may have for me, I would feel more than willing to answer them for you. [08:15] **Chair Frazier:** All right, thank you. Any questions for the applicant? I have one: how long does it take for a car to go from start to finish through? Because as I'm looking at the stacking in 34 cars, I mean, if I was the 34th car I'd probably come back another time, but I'm just wondering how long it takes to go through the wash process. [08:30] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Two and a half minutes on average. [08:32] **Chair Frazier:** Wow, that is "Rocket." [08:35] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** And that's part of the reason why we add twice the amount of equipment. It goes into the process of how you get a clean car—it's touchpoints on the car and also your chemical makeup. By adding more touchpoints with equipment, we're able to increase our belt speed so we're able to process cars faster. We've spent a lot of time on that aspect because, again, we like to have members. If they have to constantly wait to get into the car wash, the chances of them signing up for a membership are less. [09:05] **Commissioner Britton:** So, there's a point in Minnesota where my car starts blending in with its environment like the Predator, you know? So, is this going to be like a seasonal thing? Are you able to operate all year long? I ask this because I've gone to other places and because of the cold, it just doesn't even operate; the water pressure can't come through or it freezes over. [09:20] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** No, we operate in several northern states. Nebraska has very similar—we don't get as much snow as you guys got here lately—but Nebraska, Iowa, Ohio, Washington State. We've designed and engineered our systems so that they operate year-round. [09:35] **Commissioner Britton:** Appreciate it. [09:36] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** I'd like to talk about parking just a little bit. It seems like we had about 20 parking stalls, although they also appear to be mostly vacuum stalls. Not sure how many employees you'll have, but I'd imagine a big facility might have several employees. How do we handle the employee parking versus having bays open for vacuuming? Is there going to be a shared parking agreement? [09:55] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** So, first of all, on this site here we probably have between four to five employees on site actually at one point in time. Our pay stations are manned, so we have two POS lanes there. We'll have one person at the entrance of the tunnel to guide cars in, one at the control stations, and one usually roaming. We do have in the ECR a joint parking agreement with the Target parking lot there as well. If push came to shove, we would be willing to allow our employees to park in a vacuum stall if need be, but we are planning on using that ECR agreement for the joint parking. [10:30] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Very good, thank you. [10:31] **Commissioner Stevens:** I'm also going to ask about parking. You said that the amount of vacuum lots you have is based on your business plan and your other properties; that number is sufficient to meet the demand? [10:45] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Yes. [10:46] **Commissioner Stevens:** Okay. And where I'm going with this is it's kind of an odd lot. You're asking for some flexibility saying, "Well, we need all of these parking stalls and in lieu of that we can't plant as many trees." That's my understanding—that the easement is one of the other restrictions? [11:00] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Yes, and on that with the landscaping as well, we're also overdoing it with the amount of shrubs. I believe we have 100 and something like three-foot size shrubs, three-to-six-foot size shrubs there as well. So not being able to do the one, we're trying to also do more of the other to balance that out. [11:15] **Commissioner Stevens:** And my concern was just to clarify with you: based on the size of this facility, you believe that the 20 vacuum stalls are going to be necessary in order to meet the need? [11:20] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Yes. [11:21] **Chair Frazier:** All right, anything else? All right, thank you. At this time I'll open public hearing on this application. Anyone wishing to speak for or against the application may step to the podium, state your name and address for the record. [11:40] **Lisa Harpill (Public):** Hi, my name is Lisa Harpill. I live at 8068 Hornell Avenue South in Cottage Grove. I'm not either for or against; it's just this is my only opportunity that I can even discuss this because by the time it gets to City Council, I won't be able to. Has anybody given any thought to the additional cars? In that parking area, there's a lot of potholes right now, and I think when I read the plan sheet, they're hoping for like 600 to 800 cars a day. So right now there's a lot of potholes going into Target right next to that building. Also with the additional cars, there was a study on 61 and Jamaica saying that that intersection was at or near capacity in 2018 or 2019. Now if we're going to add another 800 plus cars possibly? I just wanted to make note of that because I won't get another opportunity to say anything. [12:35] **Chair Frazier:** Thank you. Any additional public comments? All right, at this time I'll close the public hearing on this and I'll turn it over to Amanda Meyer to answer questions on that. [12:50] **Amanda Meyer (City Engineer/Staff):** Good evening, Mr. Chair, members of the commission. So, this is an interesting area. This area south of East Point Douglas, you have a variety of tenants: Target, Cottage Grove Plaza, Top 10 Liquor, Orange Theory, Taco Bell, Wendy's, and this site. They all have what's called an OEA—an Operation Easement Agreement—that allows them to do shared access. If you recall, there's the existing access kind of between Top 10 and Orange Theory where there's an existing light, and then there's that access over by the Cottage Grove Plaza kind of Cub entrance area. As far as the concern about potholes, it is a private access, and I believe that's all within that agreement between the different businesses to work through the maintenance of that private area. As we look at traffic, there have been studies done. Right now those interchanges are operating at an acceptable level of service. As most of you might be aware, our East Point Jamaica project will be starting construction this year, assuming we get good bids, and we will be helping to mitigate some of those traffic congestion issues we see along East Point at that Jamaica intersection as well. [14:00] **Commissioner Britton:** So, understanding that any additional traffic and wear and tear on the road is not the City's responsibility, do we have as a city a concern with that parking area and the state of repair of it right now? Is there anything actively going on? [14:15] **Amanda Meyer (City Engineer/Staff):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, I'm not aware of any sort of process that the City has to do any inspections or communicating with the private property owners on their parking lots. I'd be happy to chat with some of our staff internally and see if it's something we've done before. Definitely, if there's concerns, we can pass them along to those who own and maintain those areas. [14:35] **Chair Frazier:** I was going to ask about that as well—is this a place where code enforcement would be able to go to a property and say this has become a problem now? [14:40] **Amanda Meyer (City Engineer/Staff):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, so that's something that code enforcement generally does every spring and then follows up throughout the summer into fall. This would be one area that they'd be sweeping through once the snow melts here and the weather starts to change just to monitor that and then follow up with the regular letter system. [15:00] **Commissioner Wright:** I just recall when there was one around Culver's and Kohl's; there was one that was basically destroying vehicles. And that's kind of what they did—they just reached out to the landowner. It sounds like it got repaired pretty quickly after that. It's just that conversation, whether it's really a formal process or not. [15:15] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** If I could just add from our standpoint: a lot of the members that we're seeing are also Target members; that's one of the reasons why we target to be in Target outlets. But not only that, any road issues that were there, that's a negative effect on our customers. We are one of those that are always trying to be good stewards. Nobody's going to want to come to our site if it’s a pothole-ridden road. Those are things that our staff is constantly monitoring. [15:40] **Commissioner Fisher:** Can I ask a question of him before he sits down? Sorry. Are you entering into that joint agreement for maintenance then? [15:45] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** Yes. [15:50] **Chair Frazier:** Any additional comment or discussion by Commission? Commissioner Stevens? [15:55] **Commissioner Stevens:** I have a question on the traffic. You were saying that it's adequate at the intersection. Is there a certain volume of traffic that requires another traffic study? [16:05] **Amanda Meyer (City Engineer/Staff):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, so there were traffic studies done both as part of the East Point Jamaica project as well as the North Point project. We have a bunch of data that was done both for existing conditions and full build-out of North Point projecting, I believe, out to 2040. I don't know if there's something specific that would trigger another traffic study per se, but it's definitely something that we would look into for any major addition. [16:30] **Commissioner Britton:** So, the construction project that's going to go on there to improve that intersection—whatever current level of service we have now is going to be better than what it is now? And I would expect that this level of cars wouldn't significantly deplete the improvements that we're going to gain? [16:45] **Amanda Meyer (City Engineer/Staff):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, yes. Just high level: adding the roundabout, taking out that signal that's in close proximity, as well as adding those dual left turn lanes will definitely help mitigate the traffic congestion we see there today. [17:00] **Commissioner Stevens:** I am so sorry to keep dragging this out. So, the site has historically been automotive repair, and I'm just curious—was there anything done to check for contamination of the soil? [17:15] **Jeremiah Harder (Applicant):** No, we did a Phase One environmental assessment on the site there to see if there was any existing known environmental issues as well as borings throughout the site. Typically, if there's any leaching into the soils there, you would see that. We're willing to accept that risk and have the funds set aside in case something would come up so we can remediate. [17:35] **Chair Frazier:** Anything additional from commission? I would look for a motion. [17:40] **Commissioner Britton:** Motion to approve subject to the conditions stipulated in the staff report. [17:42] **Chair Frazier:** I have a motion to approve from Commissioner Britton. Do I have a second? [17:43] **Commissioner Stevens:** I'll second. [17:44] **Chair Frazier:** Second from Commissioner Stevens. Any further discussion on the motion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye. [17:45] **Commissioners:** Aye. [17:46] **Chair Frazier:** All say no. Motion carries 6-0. Move on to 6.2, Lake Flora Second Edition (PP2023-005) with Emily Schmitz presenting. [18:00] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Thank you. Mr. Chair, members of the commission, good evening. As indicated, the next application before you is actually an application submitted by the City. It is for the Lake Flora Second Edition plat, which is about 65 acres. The area is just east of Jamaica Avenue and north of 100th Street, just south of Acorn Mini Storage and Public Works. The area does have the dog park if you're familiar with that. As many of you know, the Wag Farms, who owns a lot of property down there, works with our EDA on a regular basis as we navigate creating developable parcels. We're in a very similar situation as our Business Park continues to grow and expand to create additional parcels for development. [18:45] One other large part of the preliminary plat is expanding the city-owned pond that exists. We'd be looking to purchase some additional acreage to add to that. On my next slide, it will make a little bit more sense. In this image of the preliminary plat, I also wanted to note that we'll be of course acquiring the appropriate right-of-way along Jamaica Avenue as well as 100th Street. That will help with future development. [19:15] As I mentioned, the pond (LP3) collects a lot of water. It's my understanding the east side of Keats Avenue—essentially the whole length of the city—it collects all of that water here and then runs down a system all the way to the Mississippi River. It's very important that the City starts to obtain more area in this pond to help support flood storage as well as stormwater management. So, as a part of this plat, we have created the area that we do need to add to this pond. With that, I will leave the recommendation before you. [19:45] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** So, the addition of this pond is essentially to take the runoff water for the future development of the 65 acres? [19:50] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Rasmussen, actually this pond is a regional pond; it collects a large portion of the City's water. When these parcels develop, they'll actually have to support their own stormwater on site. [20:00] **Commissioner Stevens:** Is the Watershed District going to help fund this project? Have you guys thought about going after grants? [20:10] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, so each year the City does go through the CCIP grant application process with the Watershed District. In the case of LP3, I don't believe we're doing anything really above and beyond what's already needed for this area, so unfortunately I don't believe it would qualify. [20:30] **Commissioner Fisher:** I have a question. So what we have in front of us is approving the subdivision tonight, correct? [20:35] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** It's for the preliminary plat, correct. [20:40] **Commissioner Fisher:** Are we approving the land purchase too? I'm confused at what we're looking at and what we're agreeing to because I was expecting more in your presentation. [20:50] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Fisher, I'll clarify it. Typically you see a preliminary plat and we're talking about a development, a building being built, or roads being installed. In this particular instance, it's "if you build it, they will come." We're planning and creating some parcels that are ready for when that developer knocks on the door. Who owns it? The Wag Farm people own it now. Our Economic Development Authority works with them. [21:15] **Commissioner Fisher:** And then my last question is: do we get to know how much the land purchase is going to cost the City? [21:20] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, I don't know it off the top of my head. However, I can tell you that on the February 5th Council meeting agenda was the approval of that land purchase. I can follow up. [21:35] **Commissioner Fisher:** I'll check the minutes. Thank you. [21:40] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Anything planned at the moment with the existing fire hall, or is this just to replat everything and it's going to stay as is? [21:45] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Rasmussen, no plans at this time for the existing fire station. However, we will hang on to it; you just never know. [21:55] **Chair Frazier:** All right. At this time I will open the public hearing for this application. Anyone wishing to speak for or against the application can step to the podium. Seeing none, we'll close the public hearing. Any further discussion? I would look for a motion at this time. [22:15] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** Motion to approve based on recommendations in the staff report. [22:18] **Chair Frazier:** I have a motion to approve from Commissioner Rasmussen. Do I have a second? [22:20] **Commissioner Wright:** Second. [22:21] **Chair Frazier:** Second from Commissioner Wright. All those in favor say aye. [22:22] **Commissioners:** Aye. [22:23] **Chair Frazier:** All say no. Motion carries 6-0. Item seven is approval of the Planning Commission meeting minutes from January 23rd, 2023. Unless there are any additions or modifications, I'd look for a motion to approve. [22:30] **Commissioner Wright:** Motion to approve. [22:31] **Chair Frazier:** Motion to approve from Commissioner Wright. Do I have a second? [22:32] **Commissioner Fisher:** I'll second. [22:33] **Chair Frazier:** Second from Commissioner Fisher. All those in favor say aye. [22:34] **Commissioners:** Aye. [22:35] **Chair Frazier:** All say no. Motion carries 6-0. Item eight is reports. 8.1 is a recap of February City Council meetings from Emily Schmitz. [22:45] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Yes, Mr. Chair, Commissioners. The February 1st Council meeting they approved the annual mining permit for Holcim. Then the McCaddy Landing—if you recall, some folks call it the "horse property" up on Military and Jamaica—those folks did ask for an extension for one year. Then jumping ahead to the February 15th Council meeting, as I mentioned, that land purchase for that LP3 is on there. Another good one to note is the Mississippi Dunes purchase agreement. The City acquired some grant funding to purchase about 19 acres down along the Mississippi River. Then finally, the child care facility "Oh To Be Kids" was approved as well. I will certainly turn it over to Councilmember Olsen if he has anything to add. [23:45] **Commissioner Britton:** Well, before we move on, just a quick question on the Mississippi Dunes. I'm assuming that the land that was purchased was not the entire amount of land that we eventually want to have as a park? [23:55] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, Commissioner Britton, that's exactly the case. We'll purchase the 19.1 acres outright, and then the additional will come as park dedication with development. [24:05] **Councilmember Justin Olsen:** Thank you, Ms. Schmidt. I don't know if you guys are aware, but we have now had the fourth snowiest season on record at just over 70 inches of snow. Our City staff has been working hard this winter, and I just want to commend them. Emily covered most of the business side of things. Do you guys have any questions for Council? [24:25] **Chair Frazier:** Doesn't look like it. [24:30] **Councilmember Justin Olsen:** Thank you. Council appreciates you guys' hard work as well. [24:35] **Chair Frazier:** 8.3 is Planning Commission requests. Any requests for staff? [24:40] **Commissioner Britton:** I do have one. There was an article about streetlights that, because of a manufacturing issue, are turning blue. I know St. Paul was asking residents to start reporting where those are. I ask because on Hinton and 70th at the roundabout, there's a couple lights there that are turning blue. Is that something Cottage Grove is also having an issue with? [25:00] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** Mr. Chair, members of the commission, I'm not sure, but I am more than happy to chat with our Public Works department to figure out what's going on. [25:10] **Commissioner Rasmussen:** I've got something I'd like to add. I started looking at spec sheets and I came across an article where a large number of these new LEDs are burning off the film and causing it to turn purple or blue. I was visiting my parents down in Florida and the same thing's happening there. It doesn't look clean. [25:35] **Commissioner Wright:** I've seen the same thing coming out of the VFW last Friday. There's a string of them right next to Menards. Just to let you know, that's where I've seen it as well. [25:45] **Emily Schmitz (Community Development Director):** We'll definitely look into that and let you know. [25:50] **Councilmember Justin Olsen:** You know, I had the exact same question and I brought it to Ryan Burfeind in Public Works a couple of weeks ago. He’s fielded that question many times. It's a phenomenon happening nationally and there's a national shortage of the correct replacements. In the interim, we could replace those bulbs, but they would turn purple again. We're just going to have to accept that they're changing color until the proper replacements are available. [26:20] **Commissioner Britton:** I would just ask that if we're going to be doing all of these replacements, could we really re-look at how bright our lights should be? All of these new things are actually a nuisance for some of us. The older yellowish lights I never had a concern with. [26:45] **Chair Frazier:** Any additional on that issue or any other issue? Otherwise we'll move on to item number nine, which is adjournment. I would look for a motion. [26:50] **Commissioner Fisher:** Motion to adjourn. [26:52] **Chair Frazier:** Motion to adjourn from Commissioner Fisher. Do I have a second? [26:53] **Commissioner Wright:** Second. [26:54] **Chair Frazier:** Second from Commissioner Wright. All those in favor say aye. [26:55] **Commissioners:** Aye. [26:56] **Chair Frazier:** All say no. We are adjourned 6-0.