This transcript features **Mayor Jim Michalski** (often referred to as "Ted" in the dialogue), **City Administrator Ellissa "Katie" Owens**, and various council members and guests. [0:00] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** just like to uh call the meeting to order regular meeting for the moose lake city council wednesday october 14th 2020 and i'd like to start with a pledge of allegiance please i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice strong [0:34] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** i'd like to thank everyone for coming and those at home the first item is the agenda and i do have one edition we have a guest here ken larson who will be speaking about the art arch that we have out in the parking lot here and ken after the public comment number three i'll get you in so that you could present um to us and then you can leave at your pleasure are you welcome to stage after that so if everyone can see under between two and three mr larson [1:20] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** with that do we have any other changes or additions to the agenda hearing none do you have a motion to accept the agenda [1:26] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** so move [1:27] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** another second [1:28] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** exactly all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried moving on to consent agenda on 2a minutes we have number one the special meeting minutes for wednesday may 27th number two is a regular meeting minutes for wednesday june 10th number three special meeting minutes wednesday june 17th number four regular meeting minutes wednesday july 8th and number five special meeting minutes for wednesday [2:05] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** october 7th do i have any questions or comments on the minutes hearing none do i have a motion to accept the minutes [2:12] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** so move [2:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** do i have a second all in favor say aye aye opposed motion carried moving on consent agenda 2b financial reports number one is the city accounts payable for september 2020. number two is the city financial statements for september 2020 and number three is the liquor store profit loss statement for september 2020. if you have any questions or comments [2:51] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** on the financial reports [2:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** hearing none do i have a motion to accept [3:01] **Council Member Kris Huso:** someone [3:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all right all in favor say aye all right suppose same promotion carried mr larson could you please come to the podium i think there's everybody right here ken yeah i just have great thank you for you just pass around i think as everybody knows ken was the one who designed and actually built the terracotta arch with his wife and they've done a great job [3:46] **Ken Larson:** yeah better better acknowledge the other half [3:58] **Ken Larson:** i won't be here long good afternoon i just was going through some stuff and looked at the clock and said i got to get into town but i just wrote this stuff up um i thought i'd get my thoughts in order and what we have done over the years it was installed in september of 2014 i think and it's taken a while to establish what the thing needs for any kind of maintenance [4:47] **Ken Larson:** and over the years it's had three coats of sealer i think it hasn't had anything i didn't do anything to it or haven't done anything for two years to it it had some initially had some firing cracks which i stabilized and the good news there is they appear to have stayed they haven't changed any [5:29] **Ken Larson:** there is a metal framework on the inside of it and the inspection ports on the top i have opened those a number of times and the only thing that i've found from opening the inside and something i never really knew about when we designed it is that something like that breathes and it'll take in warmer moisture air during the day and at night it will condense so initially we found that the thing was developing some condensation inside i added some bent holes and just uh in the last week i've added one more vent hole and that seems to allow the [6:15] **Ken Larson:** thing to get rid of that moisture [6:24] **Ken Larson:** over the years i have on the list here a couple things that we've used for retouching on local advice i got some one-shot sign paint for retouching which we've used drops of but the stuff is expensive even for four ounce jar of it and some diamond drill bits which we use ourselves in our own work and it's just [Music] [7:11] **Ken Larson:** they're expendable they last a time or two and then you throw on the money so just for this year what we have done we've done a pretty complete cleaning and inspection and sealing retouching and drilling one more vent hole i guess we'd put in eight hours anyway and on that piece of paper that i handed around i have some suggestions for yearly cleaning and for every other year [7:56] **Ken Larson:** um what i'd like to see about if if you were to have an art conservator take a look at this it's going to be really expensive and most of the money spent on artwork occurs or does not go into the yard's pocket over the years it's it's spent on the insurance and maintenance and other things like that so as far as finding somebody to take care of this [8:45] **Ken Larson:** in the future i would like to check with the local art teachers local high schools possibly with the university but a lot of these things [9:07] **Ken Larson:** that meeting with these people is awkward in these times and finding somebody to take their time on something like this is it's hard to figure out what to do about it i'm thinking about it though [9:46] **Ken Larson:** so any questions [10:04] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** got a question on it you know with the procedure that you have is that something you could train somebody on staff here to do [10:14] **Ken Larson:** yeah i think so um it's a matter of finding somebody that wants to take the time and the patience to do something right rather than just follow the check off the boxes [10:29] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** did you say katie i can see that it is with the time that you spent you know that there is some critical effort put into this and we do want to keep that it's a beautiful piece like if if it is possible i would think this time of year isn't good but in next spring or summer to set up a training session and then yeah even look at maybe every couple years have a more of an expert if you're not available somebody else [11:08] **Ken Larson:** well yeah i mean i would like to explore the possibilities of maybe finding like a grad student up at umd as a possibility but uh [11:18] **Ken Larson:** you know there's there's nothing that needs to be done immediately to it and we've got time but it shouldn't be put off forever also sure you know some of us have noticed the heels are getting a little steeper so yeah [11:41] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all right well i think we got a little bit of a plan then but uh next spring then i'll contact you to see if we can set up training with an employee and then if uh do you want to make the contacts with uh with the university would you like us to [12:12] **Ken Larson:** i can try to do that because i i would hope that i know what to say to them sure but um also the thing about bringing somebody in from the outside is that what we we've found like this year to do a really complete job it occurred over a number of days because you can't hurry some of these things and and that's where having somebody more local would be able to [12:58] **Ken Larson:** we also did video what we have done so far and when i get that put together i'll bring that in right so appreciative just a matter of taking the computer time to figure figure out the editing process more than anything else [13:17] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** okay i appreciate that ken thank you so much thanks for coming in and you're welcome to stay or thank you that's your choice as much to do at home you bet before it freezes up thank you thank you [13:44] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all right that's something katie and i will have to discuss next spring moving on to public comment number three this time you deserve for comments from the public that matters not listen on the agenda please keep your comments to three minutes [14:07] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** members of the council just run through the report here first and then i got to go they just took over real quick it's been pretty busy here the last month or so a few weeks but if you look at our calls for service report you know we have 284 calls 10 of those calls are for msop msop right now just towards the end of this last month we've had 25 hours put into cases that are going on there and we will well exceed that this next month coming up we've got a couple bigger cases going on inside there that might attract you some media attention coming up but it has taken a lot of time [14:56] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** so we had pretty much one of our officers working on that stuff you know most of the time and weekly they you know we get more and more cases coming and getting dropped off at that point as well so um in addition to those 24 hours we've had two hours for ecrc at the department of corrections if you look at the pie chart that was sent out things are relatively the same 63 for extra patrols 65 traffic stops 26 community engagement and as far as responding we had 27 assists to other agencies that's up a little bit from previous months 83 calls for service and 20 medical calls um and a good news uh [15:41] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** our new policy manual is complete and done um you guys do have access as a city council and i think katie's probably sent some stuff out to you and i think i've sent out some of the access things so you guys can get on there if you ever want to look once we get our web page and everything done and updated we'll probably have a copy on there for anybody else that wants to view what our policy is for the police department and the direction that we want to go it's been a long process but i think we got it done you know fairly quick and i know the officers are going through it now there are daily training bulletins that are coming out making sure they understand the policy so they're going to be tied up reading some of those for a while but uh i'm glad it's done i think it was a good move on your part to go with that [16:27] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** and i think we'll be you know since i've already kicked it out we've already got updates and changes so that's how fast those things are coming um also in your package i sent out a thing on mocic as far as the thing uh katie and i decided that we were going to move forward with this it's a hundred dollars a year but they offer a ton of resources so for small agency like ours and one of our investigations working on now we were able to get equipment from them whether it's some buy money or other funds that are available training some of the analytical stuff and even some of the flow charts and graphs we have one case now that's connecting to a lot of different things and they will chart all that stuff for us to keep it straight and do a lot of things so for 100 years even the equipment that we're getting to use that we don't have to buy [17:13] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** i think is a big deal um saturday october 24th is a big push for the drug buyback that's going to be going on our department we still have the green box in there so this is going to be so specific that you do it on that day right now our new administrative assistant is there from monday through thursday from eight to two so our lobby is back open so people can stop and drop those off but we will be shipping those back off for the incinerator here towards the end of this month we are our next atv meeting scheduled for next wednesday so i know we've had a few people from the public start showing up at a few of [18:00] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** those was either questions or concerns and i know i haven't been meeting again later this week to go through some of the trail areas around here in the city we still are getting some complaints coming in on some of the atv traffic mostly up by the depot in that area but i think it's tapering off a little bit the hard thing is now is all the game wardens are tied up with all the hunting things that are going on so we have less of that resource in town so i've also attached a kind of a draft letter that i had that i think maybe to start next spring with all the atv stuff some of the rules regulations that we might want to kick out to the public at the start of next season there'll probably be a couple other things left to go with that so it's just kind of there for your your [18:45] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** review another thing that i'm just looking into now too in a direction that when i go you know how everything keeps changing it's more than more automated things and now with colvin everything else some of the online citizen reporting there's a some programs that will interface well with zerker that we're using now so that might be an option as we go through some of these things that people will be able to go on and report crimes to that and then it goes right to the officer's phone as well because when they're out of the office right now and they're calling on our phone it's just sitting there so it's it just gives them another option in more detail and i'll dig into that further but that's just kind of another thing as far as if anything's coming up you have some other ideas on direction that we're going to kind of meet the needs people that be even calling as well it'd be nice to have some of these forms you know in an online you know version [19:32] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** so something that we're looking at doing um currently we've been still um paying and using or not really using the shield system which is the old the other that we have zerker now that law enforcement's been using katie and i have talked about it and there's really no use for that anymore so i contacted st louis county and that we're going to be canceling that which would be a cost savings for us as well there's no reason for us to everything's been downloaded into the circuit system now so there's no need for that to continue but other than that spend a couple other long cases going on right now that we're working on but uh yeah everything else is going pretty smooth [20:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thanks for watching i appreciate your efforts right on the policy that's a very short turnaround to go through all those and get the update and uh new employee and training and uh that's a lot it's greatly appreciated yeah please pass it on to the crew because yeah i like jeff yep appreciate it for support [20:30] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** i'd like to thank you for bringing in these atv rules i think there's a lot of lack of knowledge by the public out there on what the actual rules are and it's nice to see some of these uh i wonder if the city saw me atv season's kind of coming to a close here with winter coming on but uh last year i had put up some pictures of the atv trails and the bike trails in town and stuff like that i was wondering if the dnr has a website that has all the atv rules something that we could put up on channel 7 that says if you go to this website you can access the rules and the regulations and things like that [21:11] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** yeah uh you could put that up like below one of the pictures on channel seven or something like that try to get some of the information out there [21:18] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** yeah maybe put some of the the basic information on here i got a question for you for the class one atvs that's just the regular atvs they have to still travel in the in the ditch and along the county road or they allow county roads [21:33] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** the county's adopted a thing where they can travel on the shoulder the right hand portion of the rope is the shoulder yeah okay but you know like here and like i said it's just more of this education piece so many of them that we're stopping or whatever that are just driving right down the main lane of the world you know they can't do that on any road [21:54] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** yeah you know and if we had something like this that you have written up here on a brochure or something that we could hand out at the uh campgrounds and stuff like that to try to get some of that information i don't know i think maybe katie has has had a plan to do that and that but just just to let the public know what the rules are and moose lake has some different rules then and that like what the speed limit is that i just like to try to get that out to the public yeah and i thought that channel 7 might be a one way to do that [22:25] **Kelly Lake (Police Chief):** yeah yeah i can talk with rory we can get that stuff on there but um yeah and as far as uh getting the stuff out um this letter will be one that we're probably looking at very similar getting on the paper and then we're also going to be drafting as part of our atv meetings a whole packet of things for all the different areas that are here and even some of the kiosk things and major locations by the depot area different parking lots where people are gathering to go on and kicking these things out for education of people so we will be having even the campground when they come in and whoever person is at the campground that's checking them in when you see the atvs on the back here's a packet maybe explain a few of the things to them and hopefully we can start next year off uh you know on the right foot but yeah you know well some of my good ideas yeah i appreciate it thank you [23:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all right thank you thank you katie public works superintendent report [23:25] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** i have a lot more here than phil does so i'm going to try to do half as good as he does water department distributed 3.9 million gallons of drinking water in september they did do the hydrant flushing and they are all ready for winter and then the well house is underway and going well i'll touch on one topic in the engineers report regarding the well house sewer department collected 10.2 million gallons of wastewater they will begin the fall discharge next week and he wrote in here i forgot to tell you about this sorry meaning me he was nominated to be a part of an interview for the mpca for their monthly newsletter to explain the city's success with uh the pipelining and the differences that we are noticing so that's huge um that i feel like that's a big thing in the sewer and water land uh so that's good um pothole filling was done they did do some big black top patches on 5th street and hickory and with that we did borrow the county's roller and tried it out on our own for the first time and it went very very well so that's probably something we'll continue to do in future years the last thing he has on here is that the cemetery and the campgrounds are all winterized and they will begin leaf and brush pickup next week [24:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** very good thank you any questions number c 4c technology library report [25:10] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** i don't have anything i have something later on for the library but i don't have anything for technology without you no [25:18] **Rory (Technology/Channel 7):** the other the only thing uh ted with the technology is that um i'm gonna try to start working on the equipment for what we're doing now with uh console meetings because our quality is especially when we're we're real close to kicking over to the other if we have a few more rain days or when it finally snows where i got enough time to finally switch it over but i think that we're going to experience quite a bit of quality difference from what we're trying to push out so uh you know going to kind of kind of look at that and see um i was hoping on it and maybe now now it's not the time to ask but do we do we have any luck on being able to get some of that [26:01] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** so i did reach out to uh what he's referring to is um at one point there was an article that was written almost maybe at one time it was they were doing this but almost insinuating that carlton county would have money for the public for technology improvements uh from the cares act money i did reach out to the carlton county eda just to get some clarification on that and they are doing projects themselves okay costing about i'm guessing with their 9-1-1 i get i don't really know exactly what they're doing okay but but it's not funds that available to the public [26:45] **Rory (Technology/Channel 7):** so okay so so we'll have to explore some options once we figure out what it would take to kind of get these overhead cameras back to quality that we hopefully can get okay so thank you rory i appreciate that [26:54] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 4d city engineer [27:03] **City Engineer (SEH Representative):** um just a few things i want to touch on the well house i'm not sure if everyone is heard by now but they did begin excavation on the well house and they ended up finding the old basement to the superintendent's house that used to be on that site so we were rather surprised um it uh we will see a change order probably next month for additional um work there but it shouldn't be as of right now shouldn't be too terrible another thing i want to mention for the wells and well houses that some two grants were submitted one in september one in october for the sealing of the old wells so we'll know if we got that sometime in october and then november and then they can begin work on that once we figured out if we got there or not and then the other thing is the sioux line trail we did approve last week at a special meeting the contractor for that i haven't heard anything from the dnr so i don't believe that that will happen this year but hopefully we can talk to them and they'll use that that same figure for springtime um but we don't know that either until until we talk to them so i just haven't heard anything one way or the other so i wanted to touch on that um but other than that everything else is in the minutes if you guys had any other questions [28:44] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** you know one department is the wetlands department for the sewage trail and there really isn't any wetlands with it it's a ditch but they're behind all the time on their wetland decisions so it's just holding up the project it's nothing specific to the project it's just the department itself is behind [29:04] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 4e chamber of commerce updates and we have a guest here tonight allison [29:10] **Allison (Chamber of Commerce):** thank you thank you thanks for calling me a guest um lovely to see you ted katie and melissa again um i'm allison from the moose lake chamber um so we are on winter hours which is monday wednesday friday from 10-3 and last month we held our first virtual event which was a golf event and we liked how it turned out and so we plan to do it again next year as virtual events are probably going to be a new thing in this world we also have our annual raffle ticket fundraiser which will be held this saturday at campers and the drawings at 7 00 pm and we still do have some tickets for sale i mean you can come to the chamber office during our winter hours monday wednesday friday from 10 to 3. which just friday at this point from 10-3 and then we are also just kind of going into winter mode projects which really is just working on membership dues working on our 2021 visitor guide book and maybe sorta trying to plan for events for next year but keeping covid in the back of our minds and being really flexible to change which change is good sometimes we'll see how that goes and then again chambers here to help them promote local news and events so please just reach out to me and i love to help and again that's what the chamber's here for so that is all thank you very much appreciate it [30:52] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** thank you thank you ellison number five previously discussed business i showed nothing katie do you have anything in there nothing moving on to number six new business 6a part-time library assistant position [31:06] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** um so as you guys may remember the library lost a staff when we reopened after colbit they've run short staffed up until this point and shelby contacted me asking if we would um we would allow her to hire a part-time physician for one day a week she did bring this up to the library board and they also recommended that so i did budget for it in 2021 also and it it is a budgeted item for 2020 so so we need a motion [31:40] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** we have a motion that's right so we'll second one second any other questions [31:51] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** yes yes sir um with this we're going back a long way because we lost the full-time person due to shortening our followers part of that was because we did not have enough people going through and utilizing this involved maybe you can answer this too do we know what our customer count is compared to what it was prior to uh maybe going back that far is when we went down [32:14] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** so i don't know that but i do know shelby just talked about um somebody asked a very similar question to that um she they asked uh like how are we how are we doing after reopening and whatever and um overall the trend is is down a bit um but shelby's trying to do a lot of like take and go projects uh working with the arrowhead library system on some of those new things that have never been done before a lot of people are calling and requesting their books and just coming to pick them up and go so not a lot of i shouldn't say not a lot the trend has been that people are not sitting there reading but they are still utilizing the library i don't have i don't have numbers though [32:56] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** it's more people coming in real quick picking it up and leaving there's not so much of people sitting in there reading the books there hasn't been any families coming in and things like that nature she said it was it's down but uh she didn't have that actual count of heads but definitely pulled it is definitely having an effect on it [33:23] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** that's my only question is it when steve devein jalinski was let go we let him go because downward trends of 10 years and we're still at it what i'm understanding is that we're still at a downward trend and we're hiring a part-time employee [33:38] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** so we have we had a lot of changes after steve left with two long time part-time staff leaving and so we basically consolidated that position and that's why shelby is full-time now um and then when donna left she i think she worked two or three days a week um so this person would only be working one day a week so we are still um i wouldn't say like reducing staff or anything um well we are reducing staff but not quality i guess [34:15] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** okay so there's two we only have two full-time employees there's two all together there are there's two part-time employees right now so she just wants one more just in case something happens the other two are sick i'm fine with that i just wanted a clarification because people do watch this and we did make decisions based on the numbers so yeah thank you thank you [34:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so we have a motion and a second um all in favor say aye oppose motion carried moving on to 6b 2020 general election november 3rd 2020. this is just a friendly reminder to get out and vote uh the general election we will be having it here november 3rd um i'll be interested to see how many people vote absentee this year just out of curiosity so just a just a reminder a person can still go up to the courthouse can they not [35:10] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yeah and with all the paperwork i mean they fill it out there yeah yes [35:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** yeah 6c general election canvas [35:16] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** so we have to set a special meeting to canvas the results of the general election something new this year is that they are accepting absentee and mail-in ballots after the election so long as they're post-dated november 3rd or before so we have to we basically get two choices on dates november 12th or november 13th so i wanted to check with you guys to see what worked for your guys's schedules [35:46] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** you've got seven days the bulk in for the mail yeah that's brand new that never that never was a thing before so the 12th is a thursday and uh we don't have to come build oh no we just yeah we don't have to count them no i mean not the console but i mean so the judges have to come not absentee all the absentee ones do yep yep so we're looking at uh thursday or friday like four o'clock yeah yeah that would work if that works for you guys yes thursday thursday [36:34] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** that was the 18th note 12 12 okay november 12th 4pm thank you [36:48] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** under 16 november regular city council meeting moved to november 18th [36:58] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yep and this is just a reminder that our regular city council meeting for november is pushed back back to the following week because of veterans day [37:13] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moving on to 6e this is resolution 20-10-1 geo-water revenue bond issuance [37:21] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yes so this is for the water revenue bond um i believe they're going to be sending the um our information to the pfa to get a better rating to get a lower interest rate so [37:37] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** so you need a motion to continue with this i do resolution relating to issuance of the general obligation water revenue bond series 2020 b let's see commenting and obligating the city to be bound by and to to use the provisions of minnesota statute section 446a.org to guarantee the payment of the principal and interest of the bonds council [38:13] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** do we know what the interest rate is on this at all i know you said you've been trying to get a better rate [38:18] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** i want to say i want to say at one point it was one point five something but i'd have to double check because it fluctuates every day it's about the lowest yeah that's what i'm worried about is there a chance to rebond those i can ask because i i recall them being quite a bit higher they were around somewhere around three yeah maybe four i wonder even if we can do that with some of this because our sewer bonds we only have one other water water bond we have three three sewer bonds so i could certainly ask george thank you [38:54] **Council Member Kris Huso:** i'll make a motion go about resolution 20-10-1 [38:59] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** do you have a second it's nothing good about the interest every once in a while pretty good [39:13] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** greg did you say second thank you sir [39:18] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say aye all right oppose motion carried 6f community center ac unit replacement [39:27] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** um this is just the second ac unit that we budgeted for replacement on and i did contact another contractor and they never got back to me if after two months so that's why there's only one the attempt was made [39:46] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** that's what you have to do if you're looking for a motion that's correct does that have a motion and a discussion [39:53] **Council Member Kris Huso:** the only discussion i have is that we're going to be adding the 250 i take it because we have no use for the over there and this was budgeted for capital so make a mission to purchase labor materials eight thousand nine hundred seventy four dollars and also the two hundred fifty dollars to dispose of the old unit is that the second one [40:15] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** second [40:16] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say hi bye oppose what you carried 6g boss plow quotes [40:24] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** um in your packet there are two quotes one from united and one from northwoods for the plow for phil's new truck the reason why northwoods is significantly less is because they will are willing to take in an old meyer plow that we've had nothing but problems with so phil's trying to make them all universal so they all work with all three of the trucks that's that was the goal there and i should say united was not willing to take it in on trade [40:55] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** very good council i'll make that motion to purchase it uh looks like it's almost half the price going through northwoods um 4 467. [41:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** do we have a second all in favor say aye aye oppose motion carried 6h cloud mount quotes [41:32] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** so this is the mount for the plow um technically united is a bit cheaper but by the time we pay somebody to drive up there i don't know how much of a difference it really will be and while it's already you know getting the plow i would just suggest going with norfolk um paying somebody to drive up there to museums [41:56] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** where is northwoods yeah where is the business located [42:12] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** they are on industrial road yes [42:15] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** so they're local local business correct rather than see the local business get the money then doug made a motion yes do we have a second [42:24] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** i'll second [42:25] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say aye all right close saying moving on to 6i gambling permit legacy of excellence foundation [42:36] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yes i believe the legacy of excellence was doing some type of a raffle for um for the legacy of excellence foundation fundraiser so they are going to be actually drawing at it looks like northern minnesota i care so gambling permit okay [43:08] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** do you have a motion to accept all in favor say aye aye oppose motion carried moving on to seven reports of correspondence 7a sidewalks mr york i have a letter from mr york katie [43:32] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** um so i kurt would like to see us do different uh do sidewalks a bit differently in the future um how we currently do them is we give our residents the opportunity to review their own sidewalks we pay 25 they pay 75 so long as they bring a bill up to me um he took advantage of that a few years ago um and when we have extra money say we have an extra thousand dollars we then go spend that thousand dollars somewhere in the city where it looks terrible so that's what we've done in the past he's wanting us to do things a bit differently and i i would strongly suggest us just continuing to do what we are doing um because it it has been working in the past in my opinion so i will leave it up to you guys to this correspondence for the council to read and if you have an issue please bring it up [44:37] **Council Member Walter Lower III:** yeah um i do understand what he's saying um but the last part that we just approved was actually approach from the road wasn't somebody else's so that would have fallen within right away so i understand what you're saying neither too right but what i talk to him part of it is that there's nothing out there that people understand and stuff and when people see us replacing one person's sidewalk and not somebody else's it's it creates a distaste you could say from some people that why are why do some people get favors and not others um if we had a little more on our system that says why we are fixing certain ones and there are certain ones that should be fixed simply for the purpose of the trees that were planted 50 years ago and better that have taken up the sidewalk so that is not the homeowner's problem and that is actually the city's problem so i don't think people understand all of what's the directions that the city goes in to try and pick things up because i mean it's an expense you're seeing cities spend and you're not getting it because i know i could have probably 10 to 20 feet of scythe replace myself again but and we don't have a large sidewalk budget anyways it's i think it's like 2 000 so it's not it's not much it doesn't it doesn't go very far but the little bit it does do i think that we're doing a good job on chipping away at it [46:27] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** well it's so much cheaper for us to actually put money out of pocket for us to do it and a homeowner to hire somebody because like the homeowner will hire somebody to do something it's gonna be two or three thousand dollars and for the city to come and do itself is probably a thousand dollars so i mean the cities benefit to a point and stuff but people don't understand it all right we can do a better job advertising in the spring because right now we're not gonna but you know we could do that do a little advertising and forming putting that in the paper and on the website um and see what happens [47:06] **Council Member Kris Huso:** well people don't even know the fact right that we will i mean someone would just replace it and do it they have no idea that the city built them 25 right it's a little advertised it could go a long way we could even put it on on our channel so do a little bit in the springtime before actual construction stuff starts and may have a different response [47:29] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** it's a public safety issue in a way too for people tripping in that and i also question on how long some of these homeowners would take to repair those sidewalks they may not have the funding and those sidewalks may not get repaired for a rather large amount of time i don't know what the city has for uh authority to force people into uh putting in new sidewalks [47:58] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** the only time that i could see enforcing somebody to is actually in the case of kurt he busted up his to redo his water and sewer line um so in that case he's going to have to replace what he what he busted up to to make those fixes the only other place would be if we didn't own the sidewalk so the place i can think of is lake shore drive we don't own that i don't believe is that correct we don't i think we will oh do we yeah so well then that would be the only time is if somebody um breaks their sidewalk by you know doing home projects and whatever [48:42] **Council Member Douglas Juntunen:** so yeah and i'd agree that there are probably people in town that don't realize that they could have 25 percent of it paid for so advertising that is a good idea to get that information out there [48:54] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** yeah we can do that in the spring thanks everyone moving on to number eight committee and board meeting minutes in the packet is the moose lake area fire protection district minutes for tuesday september 8th the moose lake parks and recreation minutes for september 14th and the moose lake parks and recreation minutes for october 5th moving on to 9 announcements regular moose lake city council meeting wednesday november 18th that's the correct [49:30] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yep okay that's at 4 pm right here [49:33] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** moose lake economic development authority wednesday october 21st 12 p.m in the city conference room moose lake water light commission regular meeting tuesday october 20th at the modern light office moonslake housing redevelopment authority monday november 9th 11 am at the hillside manor office moose lake area fire district tuesday november 10th at 6 30 pm at the emergency response center moose lake park board meeting monday november is 2nd correct [50:11] **Ellissa "Katie" Owens (City Administrator):** yeah that is not at all no holiday okay november 2nd 6 30 p.m right here [50:19] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** do we have a motion to adjourn [50:23] **Council Member Lou Ohly:** so move [50:24] **Council Member Kris Huso:** we have a second okay [50:26] **Mayor Jim Michalski:** all in favor say aye opposed motion carried for journey you