April 7, 2025 City Council Meeting
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All right, it is 7 o'clock, so I'm going to start the meeting. I'm going to call the meeting to order. And first of all, welcome everyone. A friendly reminder, if you have cell phones with you, please turn them on silent or airplane mode so they don't disrupt our meeting. And second, would you please join me in pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. So um I'll start out with some introductions. I'm Lisa and I'm the mayor. And to my left are council members Kathleen Rekin, Peter Vicky, Claudia Lacy, and Brian McGovern. And at the end we have our city engineer with the WSB, Alison. And then we also have um Emily Palus who is our assistant administrator. And to my right we have our administrator Jasper. And Brian Grim is our finance director. And then sitting in for our new police chief um is um Sergeant Brown. And thank you for coming. I say Sergeant Josh, but okay. Sergeant Brown or just or just And then uh we also have a couple of um staff members that are joining us via um internet or remote. Uh that is Ann Meerhoff, our city clerk, and David Ael, who is our community development director. And then if we have any um legal questions, we have Sarah Salo, who is with Kennedy and Graven, our city attorney. So with that um I am looking for a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Otherwise are there any additions or changes? Thank you Min. Is there a second? Thank you Mr. Govern. Any further questions? Hearing none. All those in favor signify with I. I. All those opposed. Motion passes 5. So this evening uh we have two people with us. First we're going to start out with Commissioner Anderson. Welcome um Mr. Anderson. Commissioner Anderson, thank you for taking time out. I know you're very, very busy visiting all of the cities and in your district, and there are many. So, we really appreciate you taking time out and sharing um information with us. Absolutely. Thank you so much for the opportunity. It's great to be out here. Uh as you said, I'm Kevin Anderson. I'm the Henipin County Commissioner serving District 7, which includes 16 communities in the western suburbs, including Vista and our neighboring communities up here. I live in Maple Grove, so It's always wonderful to make it out of the park. Um I so last year I gave an update uh on the roles that Henman County plays and and the way different ways we show up in the community. Uh we have approximately about 20% of the population of Minitrista receives some sort of support from Henipin County whether it's through food assistance, rental assistance, other ways that we show up and and help residents here in Henipin County in addition through the roads and bridges sheriff's department all the other things that is available to every uh every community across Henipin County. Um I do want to Sorry, I'm going to tell you presentation is wonderful. It has a lot of really great information. We'll try to kind of stick to the beginning parts of it, but I'm going to go off script tell you about right now. So, um don't try too hard to uh to follow along. Um I do want to just give an update. We have a lot of road projects. I'm the chair of the public works committee. Uh have been since I was elected uh five years ago. um and continue to serve in that capacity as the chair of the public forest. Um we have a lot of road projects happening mostly uh maintenance projects chip and seal some overlays um in Minetrista. There's bridge some bridge work happening. Um I just wanted you to be aware of it. It's in the um we have some information here in the uh presentation that I provided you. Um, additionally, when we get on to the the next page here, there's a lot of really good information about different opportunities that the county has for partnering with cities, especially around housing. Um, we have I know right now cities are going to be working on their comprehensive plans and trying to make sure that you are meeting housing goals set forth by the council and in different ways. Um, I want you to know that Henipin County is here as a partner to try to help uh bridge some of those those gaps that might be presented to you if a housing developer comes and says, "Hey, we want to make something like this work that has some affordability component to it." Uh, the county can be a partner in in trying to make some of that map work outside of just tips, which is generally what cities have at their disposal. Um the county is here to help with anything that might be uh available. But here's where I'm going to go off. So um I've been spending a a bit of time recently um in my role as a board member for the Association of Minnesota Counties and as the uh I'm the vice chair of the health committee uh for the the National Association of Counties. And there are a lot of things happening both at the state level and at the national level that is going to very likely have a direct impact to counties and therefore the cities that are in um specifically there are a lot of talks about how uh these the state and federal government is going to balance or or approach their budgets. Um, and a lot of the cuts that they're uh talking about are not strictly cuts. They're shift cost shifts to counties and local governments. Uh, specifically around Medicaid, uh, Medicare. Um, we have approximately $800 million that comes from Medicaid, uh, that goes into caring for residents, including residents here in Christ. if those cuts that are currently being talked about go through um we don't necessarily know how we would make out that difference because it doesn't change eligibility requirement. So that would mean that we would have to find some other ways of dealing with the the cost increases that would be shifted out to the county or we would have to uh accept lower levels of service that uh residents have come to expect or from counties in general. Um either option ends up being a hit to res. And I wanted to uh bring this up and kind of sound some of the alarm right now because um quite frankly because the the cuts or the cost shifts would likely end up being a combination of both things. It would be a raise in our property taxes which they really don't want to do. Um and a a decrease in the level of service that we provide to your res. Um, both of those things seem really unacceptable to me when we can uh find other ways to move all over the place. Uh, I spent last week in DC talking to representatives and senators, bill staff and committee staff and departments from the new administration and I think we are on a good path of finding an understanding. I have attended back from those meetings actually very hopeful. Um but I wanted to say that here that if there is an opportunity that you see um to partner and have conversations with your either state representatives or federal representatives and just say um we understand that there's a budget crunch that we all have to address, but shifting the costs on to local governments is not the answer. uh we need to find a better way of doing that and the more unified we can speak in that voice I think the better all our resident um so that's kind of my offscript thought uh because I really don't want us to be in a position here at the end of the year trying to figure out how we're going to make up a uh potential many million dollar shortfall caused by cost shifts that that the state or federal government. So, I'm happy to answer any questions. We have a lot of really good information that's in the packet around housing uh and as well as other grants. I know we've talked about youth sports grants um and um some other community funding which we still have available. Um and I know that we've we've had conversations about uh different parks that uh that might be eligible for this. We'll continue watching for those applications as well. Um, so happy to talk about whatever you would like to talk. So, um, couple questions. So, around housing, first of all, as you know, we don't have public transportation out here. And so affordable housing out here is not you know and then um and especially since and I mentioned this to um our state legisl representatives as well and they're aware of it but um the the problem that we have is cost and we don't have to and um so I'm not sure that um housing affordable housing out here is really potential. Not that we don't want it, it's not. But we're saying no, we don't want it. It's it's just not um doable out here at this time. Um maybe when there's more jobs out here, maybe when there's public transportation out here, um then I think we can get a little more serious about those. And I did want to just say like affordable housing, I know especially in county parliaments, we often talk about 30% AMI or deeply affordable housing affordability has very widely uh start even some elements of like under market rate uh can potentially qualify for an affordability um or some kind of partnership and we would look at that of course and so it's good to know and then the other thing I want to mention is uh and we have a couple of representatives from Lakeland Conservation District, the LMZD, and I know they're looking for funding um from the head sheriff's department for more full-time water patrol on Lake Mitanka. I really hope that you are in support of that because it's not just a 14 city issue, it's a regional issue. And as for many many years we've said this needs to be more of a regional um issue and and the region needs to pay for it other than just the 14 cities that surround. So um we really appreciate your support on that as well. Do you know do you have to go and is this something that the board has to approve or is this just something that the sheriff would needs to approve in the budget? So it would be something that the sheriff would would approve through their budget. I know right now um the sheriff's budget has been I mean they're very constrained uh especially with primarily finding people uh and and not necessarily in patrol division but in the jail we're we're really facing a period of big crunch in jail uh workers who are working there and that's led to a a really challenging situation with the sheriff's budget uh their basic uh over time and we've certainly been supportive of the sheriff and we're uh about to be uh supplementing uh her budget for her uh to make sure that they have enough resources to to do that. But we've had uh a lot of challenges recently in getting personnel and that too. Yep. And so we're we're I have faith that the sheriff will will find the ways of doing that, but it is great. Um any other questions or comments? Um I appreciate your time again. And um you have a lot of things to visit. So I think it's the last evening from home. I love being having the opportunity to come up here and and the invitation always stands. I I offer it every year, but uh if ever you want to sit down for a cup of coffee, have a drink. Um I'm always happy to come out and connect and uh or have a phone call and just uh chat about what's on your mind and how best we can serve our residents. So uh always here. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. So, um, and next we have another special presentation and we have Angela with us this evening with the, um, Alston Bay, uh, Lake Improvement Association. Harrison Harrison. Thank you. Welcome. This is It's great to be here. You're always really interesting. So, I'm Angela Astron and I with the Harrison Bay Association. I'm also with the city of Madison, partner city. Although, I have to say when I come in here, joy leading up to these just a little bit more upbeat. So I think that that's good. Um but just a quick update. This is um I'm sorry otherwise we can get otherwise. Um yeah, real quick. Uh so I am coming at the rain barrel program. So I am a Minnesota water steward and I um in 2023 became a water steward doing the rain barrel um project where where I think my idea is I am not an a city engineer expert or devout you know save the waterways. I'm just kind of an ordinary mound resident who wants to do something a little good and found that that um you know I love our lakes and love drinking water and it's just learned that it's just a very easy way for for people to do individual residents do is to have a rain barrel on their property to collect storm water. So the idea is that storm water is the number one pollute. Storm water is anything that comes off of forms off of the impervious surface and ends up in our waterway. So, it might go down the street, down the driveway, down our roofs, places where we didn't have, if I didn't have my home there, right, the water would come and it would um absorb into the ground and would be purified by the deep roots. Um, but because our roof's there, all the water comes out of one place, the soil, it carries pet waste and salt and sand and and whatever directly into our into our lakes. So, an easy way to combat this is a rain barrel. Um and this will be the third year that we've sold rain barrels the last two partnership with moma. Um and we would signed up again to sell and distribute 72 rain barrels. These 72 rain barrels save over 100,000 gallons of storm water a year and they just keep getting used year after year. So there really is a pretty a pretty easy Thank you. I'm sorry. Well, you know, I didn't So, no, it was it was it was in a link and I didn't click the link right away. So, my bad. Appreciate it. Um, so the program has three goals. The number one is to to reduce that storm water runoff. The other one is then to engage city, engage our community, right, in education and what we can do as individuals. Um, and then number three is to promote this to be used year after year. Um I do find it kind of inspirational that it's like the cost of going out to dinner, right? So we so generous contributions from city of bound and the city of Trista and and and counterparts, it's $70 and a whole 55gallon rain barrel to use here after. Um we will be distributing it again this year um out of the B parking garage. So Saturday, May 31st from 10 to noon. All of the rain barrels are pre-ordered. Um, we have 72 this year and we sell 45 to go. So, I think one of the asks that I will will say is if we can hit your next newsletter or any email to to keep the um the awareness out there, having sold 140 something the first year and and again last year too, at some point we're going to hit a little saturation point with the number of households that we can do. But I'm hopefully we that we do another 72 this year. Um the 72 is shared between the cities of Minusta and Mount and at the end I'll just comb through the addresses and and there's a $30 contribution generous contribution from the Trista for your residents and a $30 contribution from each resident. So, it'll end up being, you know, under $1,000 for each each city engineering combo and just shows a lot of I think gives credence to the fact that this is a really good solution. Um, acknowledges the fact that we do have have water issues out here. We do have and that and that together we can use less city water. Um, along with this distribution, uh, we always have and again this year a setup. Um, it's something that I think it's just really easy to see when you see how it's installed and how it comes off of the gutter. It makes it really easy for people to go home and install it. So, so that education and that demo will be there, too. Um, I have volunteers lined up for the event. It should be fun. I'm sure we'll have some donuts, too. So, if you want to stop on that, that'd be great. Um, they make great gifts. Mother's Day gifts, Father's Day gifts, right? When is the event? The 31st is amazing. So you have to give it a little early for the mother. But the ending for a little early for sure. Um but people the the pickup has been smooth. People just drive right in. We load them straight into their trunks, give them all the information they need to install them and and there we go. Save 100,000 gallons year after year. Um the go to the Yeah, that the last the next steps then would be um once it is done and I like I said I'll scrub the address total number of of residents who have requested the the discount. Well, thank you for doing this. I bought three of them. Thank you. I gave one to two of my sons and I brought one to the charity that I run. cuz I thought I could bother. I know I wouldn't have to try these out. And I actually met with Jean Anderson today. This is hard to Yeah. And she actually gave me the name of someone that would hook it up for $25. So my son's got theirs right away. So I think it's wonderful and especially when we're trying to make a difference with, you know, using water efficiently and and uh wonderful. You can always reach out to me. I will be doing that. It's a little It's a little nerve-wracking to cut your G for the first time. I'm like, do I have to cut it better? You want to know? You want to know you're doing it right? Yeah. But I think it's I I can't believe you're only doing 70. I think you think you're twice as every single person that pays for city water. Well, that I mean that is the other thing that it it should pay for itself, right? If you plug in and use it, it should not heavy to haul your hose out. You can water your little tomatoes free. Better for the plants. It keeps you from having a big pile of earth that's, you know, washed away next to your foundation. So, it really is [Music] Thank you. Thanks for Thanks for Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah. Good work. Really appreciate it. Um so um nice to meet you participate. Yeah. And it was on the back of the water that just happened. Good. All right. And we can post something on the website, too. Okay. All right. Uh with that then um we have nobody signed up under persons to be heard. So we'll move on to consent agenda items. Are there any you wish to remove? Otherwise they consist of A approve the work session meeting minutes for March 17th, 2025. B is approved city council regular meeting minutes from March 17, 2025. C has approved the A2S task order number two for consulting services for replacing sanitary lift station controls and LS number four and LS number six. LS stands for station. Come on. Um D is a resolution to approve claims. E is a resolution to approve the AR arbitrage services consulting agreement. F is uh the 2025 payment maintenance project and approved plans and specifications and authorized advertisements for bid. G is the resolution to purchase to purchase a new confined space entry multi- gas detector. And H is award agreement for sanitary sewer lift station cleaning, sanitary sewer line, jet cleaning and sanitary sewer line televising with overline suns incorporated. I is a resolution to approve the city policy for the disposal of obsolete or excess city p personal property and J is authorizing sale and disposal of surplus city equipment. Is there a motion to approve consent agenda items A through J? Thank you, Miss Lacy. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Mr. Vicky. Any further questions? Hearing none. All those in favor signify. I I all those opposed. Motion passes by vote. We have no public hearing, so we'll move on to our business items. And our first business item is to declare Game Farm Road and Blair Road as municipal state aid routes. I believe this is Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for being here this evening. I understand it's been a long day for you, but it's enjoyable. I went to the I knew I had worked ahead of time like oh I like this one. So, uh, as we discussed at the last work session, um, the city has some mileage available to designate new state aid routes and, um, we had a discussion at the last work session to include Blair Road and then farm Road from County Road 110 to Blair Road as state aid routes. And then the good news is um, in doing so, uh, we would be able to use state construction funds for uh, that portion medium farm next year. um assuming we get all the council approvals in place. So before you this evening is the official action to designate those as a date routes. Um we do need to get this to MEDOT by the first. So I wanted to be on the ball in case we needed to pivot and do something differently. But um so included in your packet is a resolution to make those designations. um we would start um getting some more uh state aid construction funds by adding these to state a rout. So um we have some good news on both fronts as far as financing goes for the city. Um as as we discussed at the work session, we did a preliminary review of the alignment um of Game Farm Road, we didn't see anything any red flags as far as um that segment not meeting state standards, but we'd certainly have to go through that in detail when the time comes for construction. Um there was one other thing I wanted to mention. Um But I don't want that to to take away from this discussion. Um, we'll still have additional state aid mileage left at the end of this. Um, but we think this is this is a good discussion. Oh, I remember what it was. Uh we did talk to state aid staff and have um believe it's included in the packet um that they've yes it is in the packet that they've already um received this um and have given on a staff level um the nod to go ahead with this but we um applying approval of of a resolution this evening. we send that off and get the official notification from um the from Mindot from Mindot as far as getting it on. Yeah. And then also because we have a little more state aid roads miles wide then doesn't that also up our our formula we'll get a little bit more um in terms of state a dollar? That's correct. Yeah. Um and you said we have what 1.4 or what do we have in our current I think we had 1.85. Yeah. Good for today. So, yeah. So, we have we have more than enough mileage available to cookies. So, we still have some some mileage left out there for the future um as development comes in more roads on the book that we can take another look at another route. Great questions. That makes perfect sense. and uh the financial sense. So uh I think we could go ahead and uh make that uh pass that resolution to designate Blair Road as the minor collector and designated gate road from county road 110 to Blair Road um as state house. Thank you Miss Rein is our second. Thank you Mr. Bren. No that's the other Brian Brian. Sorry. That is not Thank you very much. Um, any other questions or comments? All those in favor signify with I. All those opposed. Motion passes 5. So that that's good news. And then I'm assuming we do still will go through the 429 for a few a couple of those properties I believe on road. Yes, Mayor Will. And that's what we discussed at the the last session. So, um, I wanted to, uh, we just needed a little bit more. We needed to hone in on the scope of her per Saunders. I just got the information back for that. Um, so you should be seeing, um, a task order for the feasibility reporting services project within the next month. Okay, sounds good. Thank you. Um then we'll move on to our next business item and I believe that's a discussion or basically kind of a report isn't it or kind of an update on um what's happening at the state legislature. Um so well supporting the the draft or the letter. So, Madame Mayor, members of council, uh before you is a resolution supporting the retention of city of city zoning authority, which is essentially establishing our desire um to maintain local control of our zoning. Um there's a there's a series of bills out there currently uh that Yeah. So, you probably have heard them of the missing middle housing bill. That was what it was called last year. This year it's been brought back in um kind of a peace meal fashion. I believe there were about seven or eight different bills that kind of were redundant in some senses. Right now there's four of them out there that are still being considered by the by the Senate. So it's important that we pass this because we we do want to maintain our local zoning authority. um some of the bills that are out there right now. Uh and I had this pulled up and now I don't have sent some letters. Yeah, we've been we've been working on it um quite a bit. Um but there's there's four of them out there. I'll see if I can go off memory. One of them is related to aesthetics and and telling us that we can't have aesthetic standards, which we we have a little bit of. Um, one of them is related to parking and the ability to to say, "Yep, you need if you have a commercial business, you need this much parking or you have um an apartment complex, you need this much parking." Um, that's that's something that that we think is important. Um, couple of them uh reduce our ability to say what is in certain zoning districts. So, some of them make make you put additional like multifamily housing in like a residential or R1 district. we'd have to allow it by statute and we won't have an authority to to say, "Oh, we want R1 to be more lower density housing than R2, R3." Um, so that's essentially what what a lot of these bills are. They're still in the mix. Um, there is bipartisan support. Some of these are authored by Republicans, some of them are authored by Democrats, some of them are authored by both, co-authored by both. So, it's uh in a in a legislature that is pretty tight as far as a majority goes or it's tied. Um you know, some of these bills there's there's a risk of them passing because it's something that kind of common ground. So, it's important and what this resolution shows is that we want to maintain that local zoning authority. So, um, likely I think at the next meeting you'll probably see another, uh, resolution related to some of the, uh, abilities for cities to require HOAs in like a PUD situation. Um, there's bills that are trying to take that away from us and and get rid of the common area uh, spaces. So, some of the HOAs, I know some are familiar with with HOAs here. Um, you know, a lot of the HOAs have common areas that the HOAs have to maintain and that's because, you know, somebody has to own it. The city doesn't want to own it and and have maintenance costs for those. Some of those rights are are looking to be taken away. So, likely at the next meeting, you'll have a resolution um saying that we want to, you know, we we're not in favor of that bill either. So, there seems to be a lot of of bills out there right now that are eroding our our local authority that we want to, you know, obviously be against. So, and we've talked to um Representative Meyers and Senator Johnson Stewart about this and they understand our viewpoint on that and I think they've been very receptive to a lot of the communities that they represent are in the same boat as us. So, I think they're getting hit with a lot of municipalities and their districts that oppose these bills. So, hopefully that resonates and and that can help them not pass. But the other thing too that's important is let your neighbors know and people that aren't mayors or council members, they need to also express their concern regarding these bills because it really does strip local authority away from us and uh it can also undermine our compensate um to create. So, um, this is all under the premises that it's going to create affordable housing and it's it's not that's not the it's not going to create affordable housing. And, um, so, uh, we're concerned about that. We're concerned about developers coming in and being able to do just about anything they want to do. And we welcome developers and we even welcome affordable housing about we need to have some control over it and we need to be able to say you can do this but you can't do this or you can do this and we'll work with you on this or work with you on that. But with some of these bills it just would be pretty much they can do whatever you want. So we're concerned about it. Um as Jaffer mentioned um we've been in meetings with our senators we've been in contact with um represent Myers. have been very um supportive so far. So, we hope that that will help. But again, you know, one vote in the House and one vote in the Senate. So, we'll see when this goes. We'll keep you posted. Yeah. And just as a note, the legislative session is will wrap up in about six weeks. So, we still there's still a lot of time that they're working on things. So, you're going to see a lot of things kind of hot and heavy coming at you potentially. So, if there's things that maybe um you know, I I think I have good good viewpoints from the the council, I might send a letter to um our senator or our representative based on our interest based on my, you know, kind of interpretation of what's going on here. But a lot of them, you know, the zoning authority stuff is is quite important. And as the mayor alluded, you know, there's already a process that is quite, you know, labor intensive to to figure out what we're going to do in our city and how the infrastructure is going to grow um with the city. A lot of these would would really throw a wrench in all those, you know, planning activities. So, we'll keep you posted. But I guess too, um Jas kind of looking at is it okay if we send letters? Sometimes these things happen really quick and we have to react. So, You can say yes or no for both of those. [Music] Oh, absolutely. Well, last year you posted something social media about this. Yeah, that might be good to do again. um just because I think if more people in like I said other than mayors and council members um weigh in and contact their legislators uh so with that I would also say here's here's our senator here's our elected house representative and they're supportive but sometimes if they get letters um and emails from other residents they can go to their counterparts say look here's it's not just the mayors it's not just the council members it's residents in my community that concern too. Okay. That really came through when I was working on the 40 plan. You know, we did a survey of residents and the number one thing was they wanted the rural character that was building this will just destroy them. So I I think it would resonate with the president has some it like I said it it's falling under the pretense um I want to say pretense um of being able to build affordable housing. They're estimating that there's about 100,000 affordable units that are are needed in the state. Um but what they fail to do is they fail to say where they're needed and they fail to say at what what um you know what cost u would they sell at and there's no parameters. So in other words if they came in here and said well we're going to build this um and what if it ends up being that they have to sell those units at $500,000. I mean that's not affordable you know. So those are some of the things and that I see. They're not even putting any kind of parameters or any kind of um requirements on. So if you want to build affordable housing and you want to come to Manchester, hey come talk, but then build affordable housing, you know, and and that won't happen. It it can act. Um unless they get huge subsidies and then what are they going to do? They can't afford our water bills. I mean, we just we just talked about that. And then I also I also mentioned in one of my emails and letters to the senators to the senators, what how can we plan for water infrastructure, sewer infrastructure? How can we even um plan for fire and police protection? I mean, it's hard enough to get more police officers, you know, on board. all of a sudden we had, you know, so a lot more residents and now we don't have the fire protection because we don't have the water pressure that we need. I mean, there's all these other issues that um that I don't think a lot of them even know about or think about and um how can they afford a house when when the sewer and water bills are going to be three $400 a month? I mean, it's it's it's real issues that I don't think that is being considered. Long-term issues. How can they afford to maintain their if it's a $500, $600 house, even if it's if it's subsidized, how can they afford to pay the property taxes? How can they afford to pay insurance on it? Those are all things that really need to be addressed before be before passing the bill. But apparently there's a lot of state legislators don't understand that any bills. So anyhow any other questions um about this. So are any other um staff reports? Then we'll go on to staff reports. Oh, I'm sorry. All right. Yeah. All right. Then is there a motion to approve the resolution supporting retention of city's own? Thank you, Mr. Decree. Is there a second? Thank you. All in favor? I am. I all opposed. No one's opposed. I didn't think so. All right. Now, we'll move on to staff report. Yes. Um, Madame Mayor, me members of council, we have a town hall event. We've talked a little bit about it on the last couple meetings we've had on Monday, April 14th from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. here at in the city council chambers. So, um, Mayor Whan will be kind of leading the charge. We'll be talking about the fire partnership discussions we've been having and then also kind of a continuation of the discussion that we had about the the water treatment plant that we're proposing to build. So, hopefully we can get some people attend and give us some input. Um, I'm guessing mostly about the water treatment plant, but really just to kind of get more information out to the public about why we're doing it, you know, how much it's going to cost, how we're going to potentially maybe bill um the residents and see if we get some input, which we likely will. So, and on that note too, I can give a little bonding update because there's been a little bit of movement. Um, I think two Fridays ago, I got a message from um Senator Johnson Stewart and she's kind of selecting our our project along with another project to kind of move try to move forward um in the Senate side. Uh what that means is maybe it's unknown uh because there's there's conflicting uh reports on how much of a bonding bill each the Senate and the House want to do and they're talking about maybe doing a split bill a little bit this year and a little bit next year or all of it next year. Um and the direction that I've kind of given the the senator and the uh representative is we want it this year. uh because next year we won't have projects. So, we'll see. It doesn't sound like much. It looks like the Senate's looking at about 700 million um in 2025 potentially. And what that means is about 500 of that is tied up into state projects like um University of Minnesota and MDOT, those types of things to fund those things. So, there's really only about 200 million to play with for lo local municipalities. Um there's I want to say 2 point I'm going off of memory $2.6 billion dollar of water infrastructure requests and over8 billion dollars of requests overall. So you know you have $200 million trying to fit that in. You know that's a just a drop in the bucket. So it's not you know that optimistic but we really appreciate the senator bringing forward our project along you know whittling it down to just two in her district. So, um, and the same with, uh, I I spoke with Representative Meyers this afternoon, too, and he said he's going to he's going to try to get move our project along, but he's talking maybe each representative might have access to, you know, a million a million five. So, we'll have to do an evaluation if we are if we do get in there for a million million five to see what that actually does to our project cost because I think you remember talking about the PFA piece and or the the congressionally directed spending piece which we looked at. If we get a million dollars that might drive the project cost up more than what we get, you know, on a $22 million project. So, we'll have to do that evaluation. Um the other things that they're considering is, you know, there's a $ 1.5 million um project budget. Is it is it better to allocate that to a smaller project because you can actually do it and you have more of an impact or to some of these larger infrastructure project. So those are the things that the our representatives are kind of dealing with right now. Hopefully, you know, things can kind of shift. I know there's been some economic things occurring in the last week or so that maybe aren't favorable for passing a bonding bill, too. So, there's all these other inputs that are occurring that um you know maybe aren't as uh timely as they should be. So, we'll see. I'll continue to provide updates as they come in, but we're still in the running. Um and uh as I said before, we have about six weeks uh before the session ends. They could extend it if they need to, but we'll we'll see and follow it closely. That's all I have. Questions? Um any other staff reports? I do think we need a um representative for the planning commission last fourth Monday. Who might be a law who hasn't done it yet? Uh, I will actually I might Okay. Well, here I'm happy to go. Okay. And then I'll just Okay. So for now, Claudia um she'll let you know and if not more in Australia. All right. Um any other staff reports? Hearing none. Um just a um I'll do a quick report and then we'll go on to other committees. So um the fire partnership meeting went well uh went better than previous meetings because we actually made a little bit of headway. Um so we talked more about the uh joint powers agreement itself. I won't go into all those details but um we sort of semi decided or agreed that um M would get two votes would get two votes and St. Bonnie and Spring Park and this is kind of preliminary will each get one vote. It's based on contributions and so since mom and Mr will be the biggest uh contributors, financial contributors, um it was decided that we would each get two and it's kind of based on percentage of contribution and it was capped at 49%. So in other words, if Bena ever were to become more than a 50% contributor, we would still be capped at 49%. in terms of goals. Uh however, we also capped it at um some of the smaller cities were concerned about annual budget increases and we talked about well if the budget ever were to be approved with more than 4% increase to the fire budget that it would have to be a super majority. In other words, we would need one of the smaller cities to agree as well. And we looked back past um in you know um budgets and how much they have been increased and really it's very very seldom if ever it's been increased by more than 4%. And then the other thing we talked about trying to remember what else did we talk about? Um voting. Oh and then we didn't get to the formula. So the formula um there was some very little discussion on that. uh mom wasn't prepared to have that discuss but we will be talking about it at this upcoming because uh that's a very important part of the of the joint powers agreement and then um I believe Kathleen and myself and Jasper will be meeting um with one of the cities um Wednesday morning and Jasper and myself Edwards St. Bonnie um regarding the formula of it that there were there's like three or four different scenarios and they were on board with any one of them because they're not impacted very much and um I think our most impact would be what two and a half%. Yeah, that'd be the most right now. I think we were planning on three as a planning number. Um but it's going to be less than that. That's would be to our overall landing. that would be the man of someone. And so that's the other reason we wanted to have the um town hall meeting, invite residents in, let them know what's happening, why it's happening, and um what potential financial impacts does it move to the city. And we'll go over all of that meetings there. And uh and then um also I um I was that fall's retirement um event which was very very well attended. I I think Ally said I mean it was there was a lot of people a lot of people here lot of police officers from all different um organizations. So it was a real testament to uh Paul's um work here and commitment not only to our city but just as a as a police um officer too. And uh so it was a it was really a great event very very well attended and um I think it meant a lot to our chief falls. So and then um like I said we also uh when we had our meeting with St. Bonnie we kind of touched on and this is maybe another thing we'll add to our work session. Um, we kind of touched on the water situation and um, so I'm not going to go into a lot of detail tonight, but I asked uh, Jasper if he would put that on a work session because I think we're making some good strides there. Um, with the the mayor, he was very interested in talking to us. He talked about interconnects and there's three more interconnects that we do and and is kind of a preliminary proposal. Um, he's very interested in that. So we'll talk about that in a future work session. Um that's and then I'll be going to the northwest lead NYC. That's it. So um no people have been on vacation but anything and then the next fire is the ship is April 15th tax day by the way. Okay. You've been on vacation too. something like Philadelphia. I will just say that they are having their 25th anniversary gala coming up in October. So ways away. Mark your calendars. Uh October 25th, celebrating the 25th. Okay. All right. Okay. Great. Well, thank you very much. Great meeting uh staff and council. Really appreciate it. Um appreciate Sergeant Brown stepping in. So um for that is there a motion for Thank you M. Is there a second? Thank you Mr. Vicky. Mick signify I I motion passes by. We'll see you again in a couple weeks. Well next week. Next week on the 14th.