[0:17] Elliott Payne: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOT PAYNE, PRESIDENT OF MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE WE CONVENE THE MEETING, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS OF HONORARY RESOLUTIONS. WE'RE PLEASED TO WELCOME GUESTS TO THE SPACE TO SHARE IN THE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE TAKING UP THE AGENDA. FIRST, JUNETEENTH PRESENTED BY COUNCILMEMBERS VETAW, JENKINS, WONSLEY AND MYSELF. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME [1:12] Andrea Jenkins: IS ANDREA JENKINS. I REPRESENT WARD 8 ON MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. AND I AM SO HONORED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS RESOLUTION TODAY ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES. AS WE RECOGNIZE AND HONOR JUNETEENTH. IT'S A LONG TIME OVERDUE. WE INSTITUTED THIS HOLIDAY, I THINK, MAYBE FIVE YEARS AGO. FOR THOSE NOT FAMILIAR, IT HAPPENED IN 1865 ON [1:59] Andrea Jenkins: JUNE 19th. WHEN THE STATE OF TEXAS FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION. AND THE ENSLAVED PEOPLES, AFRICAN PEOPLES OF TEXAS WERE FINALLY FREE. SO THE RESOLUTION READS. [2:26] Andrea Jenkins: WHEREAS, ON JUNE 19, 1865, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHERE IT WAS TO BE THE LAST OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT STILL HELD IN HUMAN BONDAGE, RECEIVED NEWS OF THEIR FREEDOM AND ENTITLEMENT TO NATURAL BORN HUMAN RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW WHICH HAD ACTUALLY BEEN BESTOWED UPON THEM TWO AND A HALF YEARS EARLIER WHEN PRESIDENT LINCOLN SIGNED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION - WHICH HAD BECOME OFFICIAL JANUARY 1 1863; AND. [3:03] Andrea Jenkins: WHEREAS LATER THAT YEAR, ON DECEMBER 6, 1865, THE 13TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH ABOLISHED SLAVERY, WAS RATIFIED BY CONGRESS; AND. [3:19] LaTrisha Vetaw: WHEREAS, THROUGH OTHER SYSTEMS OF OPPRESSION, SUCH AS SHARECROPPING, JIM CROW, REDLINING, AND MASS INCARCERATION, THE PLUNDER OF BLACK BODIES AND BLACK WEALTH CONTINUED PAST SLAVERY AND PERSISTS TO THIS DAY, DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, SAFETY, AND EDUCATION OF BLACK AMERICANS; AND. [3:42] LaTrisha Vetaw: WHEREAS, THE CURRENT STATE OF DISPARITY IS IN DIRECT CORRELATION WITH THE INSTITUTION OF SLAVERY THAT CONTINUES TO UNDERGIRD OUR LOCAL AND NATIONAL ECONOMY; AND. [3:57] Robin Wonsley: WHEREAS, THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO DEEPENING ITS WORK TO INSTITUTE POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT WILL REPAIR THE HARM EXPERIENCED BY PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT OVER THE LAST 400 YEARS AS A RESULT OF THE LEGACY OF SLAVERY AND RACISM; AND. THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS RECOGNIZES THE EXTENT OF THE HARM DONE AND IS TAKING ACTIVE STEPS TO REVERSE AND REPAIR THE HARM BY ADOPTING AND IMPLEMENTING OUR STRATEGIC RACIAL EQUITY ACTION PLAN, CREATING AND INCREASING SYSTEMIC CHANGE TO PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSES THAT INCLUDES UNARMED [4:43] Robin Wonsley: AND NON-POLICE SAFETY RESPONSE FOR CERTAIN EMERGENCIES AND FOR CRIME PREVENTION, PASSING AND IMPLEMENTING A RESOLUTION DECLARING RACISM AS A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY WITH SEVERAL POLICY CHANGES, FORMALIZING AND IMPLEMENTING A TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION PROCESS, BUILDING OUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH HISTORIC INVESTMENT, CREATING INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES, AND WORKING TO IMPROVE AUTHENTIC ENGAGEMENT AND BUILD TRUST BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND CITY OFFICIALS; AND. JUNE 19TH HAS SINCE COME TO BE KNOWN AS JUNETEENTH AND IS ONE OF THE OLDEST CELEBRATIONS IN AMERICA [5:28] Elliott Payne: GROWING OUT OF THE EXPERIENCES OF BLACK AMERICANS AND THEIR ENSLAVED ANCESTORS AND IS A CELEBRATION OF THE ENDING OF CHATTEL SLAVERY IN AMERICA WITH THE FIRST “OFFICIAL” JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION TAKING PLACE IN TEXAS IN 1866; AND. JUNETEENTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO CELEBRATE BLACK AMERICAN HERITAGE AND HONOR THE LIVES, SACRIFICES AND CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ARE WOVEN INTO THE AMERICAN FABRIC; AND. ON MAY 14, 2021, JUST PRIOR TO ADOPTION BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS THE FOLLOWING MONTH, THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL, BY ORDINANCE, OFFICIALLY DECLARED JUNETEENTH A CITY HOLIDAY TO BE HONORED WITH A PAID DAY OFF FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AND TO BE RECOGNIZED [6:14] Elliott Payne: BY EVERYONE IN MINNEAPOLIS; AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY AND THE MINNEAPOLIS PARK AND RECREATION BOARD, RECOGNIZES AND CELEBRATES THE WEEK OF JUNETEENTH WITH ACTIVITIES TO COMMEMORATE JUNE 19, 1865 AND LIGHTING OF THE I-35W BRIDGE. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED━ THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY HONOR AND RECOGNIZE JUNE 19, 2024, AS JUNETEENTH, THE NATIONAL AFRICAN AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE HOLIDAY IN COMMEMORATION OF THE RESISTANCE AND LIBERATION OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND IN THE NATION. [7:04] Andrea Jenkins: [ APPLAUSE ] THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH COLLEAGUES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL JUNETEENTH COALITION. IS THAT THE NAME OF THE GROUP, AL? OKAY. I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT AND ACKNOWLEDGE MICHELLE GIBSON-WEBB WHOM WE'VE LOST RECENTLY. MICHELLE PASSED AWAY. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF OVER A MONTH NOW. AND MICHELLE HELD THIS COMMUNITY DOWN FOR DECADES WITH ORGANIZING AROUND JUNETEENTH EVENTS, A JUNETEENTH PARADE. SHE DID A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GATHER IN CELEBRATION OF JUNETEENTH. SO REST IN PEACE, MICHELLE. WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DID. [7:47] Andrea Jenkins: AND THAT YOUR LEGACY CONTINUES FOR THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, ALICIA, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? A.J.? ANYONE? [8:00] Guest (Community Member): WELL ON BEHALF OF THE ORIGINAL JUNETEENTH COMMITTEE, WE THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTION. WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION OF NOT ONLY US IN THE CELEBRATION, BUT ALSO THE REALITIES IN WHICH MANY BLACK AMERICANS ARE DEALING WITH AND WE FIND OURSELVES FACING NOW AGAIN TODAY. AND SO WHILE JUNETEENTH IS A HOLIDAY, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY AND THINGS AND WORK TO BE DONE. SO STAY TUNED, COMMUNITY. BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING! THANK YOU. [8:27] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES? [8:29] Elliott Payne: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL GET IN BETWEEN THE TWO BLACK LINES AND TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH. [9:40] Andrea Jenkins: AL, YOU IN TROUBLE! [10:01] Andrea Jenkins: SO THIS NEXT RECOGNITION. WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP COMING FORWARD. BUT I THINK THIS NEXT RESOLUTION REALLY BUILDS ON THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION THAT WE JUST SHARED. [10:23] Andrea Jenkins: THIS IS A WORK GROUP -- OR PARTIAL WORK GROUP THAT SPENT THIS PAST YEAR LOOKING AT HISTORICAL AFRICAN AMERICAN SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND THEY IDENTIFIED ALMOST 40 DIFFERENT SITES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT REPRESENT AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE. [10:57] Andrea Jenkins: UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S ONLY ENOUGH RESOURCES TO PRIORITIZE 25 OF THOSE SITES. BUT THREE OF THOSE SITES ARE GOING TO BE NOMINATED FOR NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRIES. AND SO I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST YEAR TO IDENTIFY THOSE SITES AND AT A TIME IN OUR NATION WHEN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IS LITERALLY BEING ERASED. IT IS SO CRITICAL THAT WE TAKE THESE MOMENTS TO IDENTIFY AND NOT ONLY IDENTIFY BUT TO SOLIDIFY AND [11:45] Andrea Jenkins: NORMALIZE THESE HISTORICAL SITES, HISTORICAL ACTIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. SO I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE WORK GROUP AND SHARE THIS RESOLUTION HONORING THEIR WORK. HONORING AND RECOGNIZING THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP. WHEREAS, EACH YEAR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZE BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND COMMIT TO HONORING BLACK HISTORY AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF PEOPLES OF AFRICAN DESCENT NOT ONLY IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR; AND ON APRIL 13, 2023, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE MINNEAPOLIS [12:37] Andrea Jenkins: AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORIC AND CULTURAL CONTEXT STUDY, WHICH AIMS TO DOCUMENT THE HISTORY OF AMERICANS, BLACK AMERICANS, NATIVE BLACK AMERICANS, AND PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT IN WHAT IS NOW MINNEAPOLIS FROM THE EARLY 1800S TO THE PRESENT DAY; AND. [13:01] Andrea Jenkins: WHEREAS, ON JUNE 28, 2023, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL DULY APPOINTED 15 MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE IN MINNEAPOLIS; AND DANIEL BERGIN, JAMES CURRY, KENDRA ELLNER, TIARA FARD, MICHELLE GIBSON, MINISTER DR. ORA HOKES, DENISE [13:27] Andrea Jenkins: JAMISON, BRIAN KELLEY, MICHELLE LINCOLN, GREG MCMOORE, JULIA MOTURI, BEVERLY PROPES, DAVU SERU, TENE WELLS AND KEEGAN XAVI, COMPRISE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP AND REPRESENT DIFFERENT GENERATIONS OF BLACK MINNEAPOLITANS, FROM ACROSS THE CITY, AND BEAUTIFUL AND VARIED LIVED AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES; AND. [14:00] Andrea Jenkins: WHEREAS, MEMBERS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP HAVE PROVIDED INVALUABLE INSIGHT AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO SHAPE THE MINNEAPOLIS AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORIC AND CULTURAL CONTEXT [14:13] Andrea Jenkins: STUDY; TO UPLIFT THE STORIES OF AMERICANS, BLACK AMERICANS, NATIVE BLACK AMERICANS, AND PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT IN MINNEAPOLIS; TO RECOGNIZE SITES OF HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE TO THIS COMMUNITY; AND TO IMAGINE HOW WE COULD AND SHOULD PRESERVE AND CELEBRATE THIS COMMUNITY'S HERITAGE MOVING FORWARD; AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES EACH MEMBER OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP FOR MAKING SIGNIFICANT AND LASTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY AND THE REGION; [14:48] Andrea Jenkins: NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED━ THAT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HEREBY COMMEMORATE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVED ON THE FIRST-EVER AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE WORK GROUP IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE PLEDGE TO [14:58] Andrea Jenkins: CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO RECOGNIZE AFRICAN AMERICAN PEOPLE, PLACES, AND EVENTS, WHICH ARE ESSENTIAL TO OUR CITY'S HERITAGE. [15:14] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS WORK! I WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FEW FOLKS TO SAY SOME THINGS AND REFLECT ON THE EXPERIENCE. BUT, FIRST, I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM STAFF. AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF MEMBER ERIN WHO LED THIS WORK AND WILL CONTINUE THE WORK MOVING FORWARD. ARIN. [15:39] Arin (Staff Liaison): THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR RECOGNIZING THIS INCREDIBLE GROUP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO RAISED THEIR HANDS AND VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE ON THIS NEW WORK GROUP. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO GET TO SERVE AS A STAFF LIAISON FOR THE GROUP IN SERVICE OF THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. WE HAVE DONE INCREDIBLE WORK TOGETHER THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU, AS WE'RE CURRENTLY WRAPPING UP OUR GRANT PROJECT, FINISHING UP THE CONTEXT STUDY, AND WILL SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL LATER THIS SUMMER SO YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH THE CONSTITUENTS SO THEY'RE AWARE THAT THE PROJECT TOOK PLACE. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO OUR MEMBERS FOR REALLY PUSHING US TO THINK ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT COULD BE HERE AND REALLY CHANGE THE WAY WE ARE APPROACHING [16:25] Arin (Staff Liaison): HISTORIC PRESERVATION HERE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WE ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT IN GETTING THIS BODY UP AND RUNNING AND SUPPORTING US THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU. THANK YOU ALSO, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, FOR BEING WITH US LAST NIGHT. YOU COULD BE IN COMMUNITY WITH THE WORK GROUP MEMBERS. WE HAVE A FEW REPRESENTATIVES HERE TODAY. [16:49] Guest (Work Group Member): I'M FROM SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. THANK YOU WARD 8 AND GUESTS. LIFELONG. ALL RIGHT. BUT, YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US OR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK. THERE'S SEVERAL HISTORIC HISTORY PROJECTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS. AND THIS KIND OF OPPORTUNITY SUPPORTS THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH! [17:18] Guest (Work Group Member): NORTH SIDE! EXCUSE ME. I GET CARRIED AWAY. BUT, UMM, THANK YOU, MAYOR FREY AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND TO MY DEAREST FRIENDS, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW AND COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS FOR YOUR LONG SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO US. AND AS WE KNOW THAT, IT WAS PEOPLE OF AFRICAN DESCENT WHO BUILT AMERICA OVER THEIR BLOOD, [18:03] Guest (Work Group Member): SWEAT, AND DEAD BODIES. FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF WORK MOVE FORWARD AND FOR WORK WITH US OVER THE PAST YEAR, IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO SEE THE FRUITION OF OUR WORK AND ALL OF THOSE WHO SERVED SO TIRELESSLY. AND FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS TO FINALLY RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS CITY. SO THANK YOU. [18:35] Guest (Work Group Member): THANKS, AS WELL, TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE TEAM. I HAVE FELT THAT SINCE WE ARE UNDER ACTIVE ATTACK, BLACK HISTORY, THAT IS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THIS GROUP GO ON IN PERPETUITY BUT I DON'T KNOW THE PROPER CHANNELS. IT'S A WISH. I'D LIKE TO SEIZE THE MOMENT OR THE MOMENTUM AND MAYBE PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR MAYBE THE CLERKS' OFFICE? BUT, UMM, -- HA-HA I JUST THOUGHT I'D PUT IT -- I'D BE REMISS NOT TO AT [19:20] Guest (Work Group Member): LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. BUT THANK YOU, ALSO, UMM, REPRESENTATIVE JENKINS. [19:25] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU. YEAH. I DO WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS SHOULD BE ONGOING WORK. AND THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO PERPETUATE THIS WORK. SO YOU CAN GET INVOLVED WITH THAT. YOU MENTIONED THE CLERK. [19:49] Andrea Jenkins: THIS WAS A TIGHT PROCESS. I WANT TO COMMEND THE WORK GROUP FOR UNDERSTANDING THEIR MISSION AND MEETING THEIR STATED GOALS WITHIN THAT ONE-YEAR TIME PERIOD. AND SO WHILE THIS WORK IS SUNSETTING, AT THIS MOMENT, THERE IS WORK THAT IS CONTINUING TO UNCOVER AND LIFT UP AND MEMORIALIZE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. SO THANK YOU ALL. [20:31] Andrea Jenkins: AND LET'S TAKE A QUICK GROUP PHOTO HERE. [21:31] Elliott Payne: NEXT COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN TO RECOGNIZE DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY. [22:29] Jamal Osman: GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JAMAL OSMAN, A COUNCILMEMBER FOR WARD 6. I'M HONORED TODAY TO HAVE THE DJIBOUTI COMMUNITY HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. HERE IS THE RESOLUTION. CELEBRATING DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. WHEREAS, DJIBOUTI BECAME A LATE FRENCH COLONY ENDURING OVER A CENTURY OF COLONIAL RULE AND WHEREAS, THE STRUGGLE FOR INDEPENDENCE GAINED MOMENTUM AFTER WORLD WAR II CULMINATING IN NATIONAL MOVEMENT FOR DETERMINATION AND [23:15] Jamal Osman: FREEDOM. AND, WHEREAS, ON JUNE 27, 1977 DJIBOUTI DECLARED INDEPENDENCE FROM FRENCH COLONIAL RULE MARKING A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN THE NATION'S HISTORY. AND, WHEREAS, DJIBOUTI STRATEGICALLY LOCATED AT THE CROSS ROADS OF AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST SERVES AS A VITAL HUB FOR TRADE, TRANSPORTATION WITH RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE INFLUENCED BY DIVERSE ETHNIC GROUPS AND LANGUAGE. AND, WHEREAS, THE UNITED STATES AND DJIBOUTI SHARE A STRONG BILATERAL RELATIONSHIP IN AREAS SUCH AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TRADE, AND CULTURAL [24:01] Jamal Osman: EXCHANGE. FOSTERING MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO NATIONS. AND, WHEREAS, THE DJIBOUTI AMERICAN COMMUNITY OF MINNEAPOLIS HAS MADE A REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY, CULTURAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE ENRICHING IT WITH THEIR TRADITIONS AND ACHIEVEMENTS AND CULINARY DELIGHT. AND DJIBOUTI DIASPORA IN MINNEAPOLIS FOSTERING A SENSE OF BELONGING AND PROMOTING CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING AND SOLIDARITY WITH THE BROADER COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS, DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY NOT ONLY COMMEMORATES THE NATION'S FREEDOM, BUT CELEBRATES THE CONTRIBUTION OF DJIBOUTI IMMIGRANTS TO OUR CITY. AND [24:49] Jamal Osman: WHEREAS, JUNE 27, 2024, WILL MARK THE 47th ANNIVERSARY OF DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY. WE HEREBY CELEBRATE THURSDAY, JUNE 27, 2024 AS DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY. THAT WE HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE DJIBOUTI AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO OUR CITY BY EXTENDING OUR WARMEST CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST WISHES TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE DJIBOUTI AMERICAN COMMUNITY ON THIS SIGNIFICANT OCCASION. [25:26] Jamal Osman: [ APPLAUSE ] I JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK THEIR CONTRIBUTION AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR 47th INDEPENDENCE DAY OF DJIBOUTI NATIONS. DJIBOUTI IS A DIVERSE NATION, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE THEM IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO OUR CITY. [25:50] Jamal Osman: I'LL USE ONE EXAMPLE, ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, THE FOUNDER OF AFRO DAILY IS A DJIBOUTI AMERICAN. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. AND GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO SAY A FEW WORDS. [26:12] Guest (Community Speaker): THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR RECOGNIZING AND HONORING OUR DJIBOUTI COMMUNITY IN MINNEAPOLIS. THIS RESOLUTION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AS WE CELEBRATE DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE VALUE AND CONTRIBUTION OF DJIBOUTI AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. IT HELPS PROMOTE INCLUSIVITY AND CULTURAL UNDERSTANDING. IT MAKES OUR CITY A STRONGER AND MORE UNITED PLACE. YOUR SUPPORT IN PASSING THIS RESOLUTION SHOWS THAT WE VALUE DIVERSITY AND THE RICH HERITAGE THAT EACH COMMUNITY BRINGS TO OUR CITY. IT'S TRULY MEANINGFUL TO US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [26:55] Jamal Osman: [ APPLAUSE ] ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD? THAT'S FINE. WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE. GET BETWEEN THE BLACK LINES. [28:02] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU FOR THOSE PRESENTATIONS. AND ... BEFORE I CALL OUR REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND. AS WE MEET THIS MORNING, THE ATMOSPHERE ACROSS OUR STATE AND HERE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY IS HEAVY WITH OUR SHARED GRIEF IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE ASSASSINATION OF SPEAKER AND HER HUSBAND. IN THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF THE SENATOR AND HIS WIFE. WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES. BEYOND THE HORROR OF THIS TRAGEDY, WE ARE LEFT FRUSTRATED, CONFUSED, AND ANGRY BY THIS SENSELESS ACT OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE. WE MUST BE UNITED AND ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ON THIS POINT. POLITICAL [28:50] Elliott Payne: VIOLENCE OF ANY TYPE IS AN ATTACK ON THE VALUES THAT WE SHARE AND THAT DEFINE WHO WE ARE AS THE UNITED STATES AS A DEMOCRACY. WE MUST UNEQUIVOCALLY AND ADAMANTLY CONDEMN SUCH ACTS. PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY MEANS STANDING UP TO POLITICAL VIOLENCE. IT IS ON EACH OF US, AND ALL OF US TOGETHER, TO COME TOGETHER IN THIS MOMENT. WE MUST PUSH BACK AGAINST THE POLARIZATION AND THE DIVISIVENESS AND THE HATEFUL RHETORIC. WE MUST STOP THE "OTHERING" THAT ALLOWS US TO SEE OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND NEIGHBORS AS ENEMIES. IN OUR DEMOCRACY WE DEBATE ISSUES OPENLY. WE DISAGREE AND ARGUE, PASSIONATELY AND PURPOSEFULLY. [29:33] Elliott Payne: AND WE CHALLENGE EACH OTHER TO CONSIDER DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. BUT WE DO NOT RESOLVE OUR DIFFERENCES THROUGH VIOLENCE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE. AS WE GRIEVE FOR MELISSA AND MARK AND PRAY FOR JOHN AND IVETTE. AS NOTED FROM TIME TO TIME, THE STANDARDS OF DECORUM ENCOURAGE US TO DEBATE THE ISSUES BEFORE US, EVEN PASSIONATELY, BUT NEVER LET THE DISAGREEMENTS BECOME PERSONALIZED. WE MUST HONOR EACH OTHER'S LIVED EXPERIENCES AND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES WE BRING TO THE WORK WITHOUT FEAR. [30:13] Elliott Payne: TOGETHER WE MUST STAND FOR OUR SHARED VALUES AND JOIN WITH OTHERS WHO OPPOSE AND CONDEMN POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN ALL FORMS. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO HOLD SPACE FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO SHARE THEIR OWN THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS , IF ANY. SEEING NO ONE ... [30:33] Elliott Payne: I'LL ASK, AT THIS TIME, WE HOLD A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN REFLECTION OF THE MEMORY OF MELISSA AND MARK. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. AT THIS TIME, I'LL CALL THE REGULAR MEETING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL FOR JUNE 18 TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [31:06] Casey Carl (City Clerk): COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [31:08] Andrea Jenkins: PRESENT. [31:09] Casey Carl (City Clerk): PALMISANO. [31:10] Linea Palmisano: PRESENT. [31:11] Casey Carl (City Clerk): CHOWDHURY. [31:12] Aurin Chowdhury: PRESENT. [31:13] Casey Carl (City Clerk): CASHMAN. [31:14] Katie Cashman: PRESENT. [31:15] Casey Carl (City Clerk): OSMAN IS ABSENT. RAINVILLE. [31:20] Michael Rainville: PRESENT. [31:21] Casey Carl (City Clerk): CHAVEZ. [31:22] Jason Chavez: PRESENT. [31:23] Casey Carl (City Clerk): VETAW. [31:24] LaTrisha Vetaw: PRESENT. [31:25] Casey Carl (City Clerk): ELLISON. [31:26] Jeremiah Ellison: HERE. [31:27] Casey Carl (City Clerk): KOSKI IS ABSENT. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [31:32] Robin Wonsley: PRESENT. [31:33] Casey Carl (City Clerk): VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [31:34] Aisha Chughtai: PRESENT. [31:35] Casey Carl (City Clerk): PRESIDENT PAYNE. [31:36] Elliott Payne: PRESENT. [31:37] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 11 MEMBERS PRESENT. [31:38] Elliott Payne: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF THEIR SPEECH SO WE CAN CAPTURE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. WE ASK ALL SPEAKERS TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. THE AGENDA FOR TODAY IS BEFORE US. ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS? I'M NOT SEEING -- [32:21] Casey Carl (City Clerk): COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN IS ABSENT AT THE MOMENT. AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID A RESOLUTION CELEBRATING DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY, WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDED FORMALLY TO THE AGENDA SO WE CAN ADOPT IT LATER ON, IF ANOTHER MEMBER CAN MAKE THAT MOTION. [32:39] Katie Cashman: SO MOVED. [32:41] Aurin Chowdhury: SECOND. [32:42] Elliott Payne: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE UNDER THE ORDER OF RESOLUTIONS THE CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION CELEBRATING DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. [32:53] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. I ALSO HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA. THIS IS TO ADD UNDER THE ORDER OF UNFINISHED BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO A STAFF DIRECTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST NOVEMBER RELATED TO MUNICIPAL REVENUE. THE FULL TEXT IS BEFORE YOU, BUT THE MOTION TO UPDATE THE DIRECTION TO INCLUDE EXAMINATIONS OF OTHER REVENUE SOURCES AND COLLABORATION WITH THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION. CAN I HAVE A SECOND? [33:18] Robin Wonsley: SECOND. [33:20] Elliott Payne: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. ABSTENTIONS? THAT CARRIES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS AMENDED. [33:29] Andrea Jenkins: SO MOVED. [33:30] Robin Wonsley: SECOND. [33:31] Elliott Payne: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [33:33] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [33:50] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 11 AYES. [33:52] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING OF JUNE 5. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THOSE MINUTES. [34:00] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [34:01] Michael Rainville: SECOND. [34:02] Elliott Payne: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [34:05] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [34:25] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 11 AYES. [34:27] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO COMMITTEES. MAY I HAVE THE MOTION, PLEASE. [34:33] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [34:34] Robin Wonsley: SECOND. [34:35] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [34:55] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 11 AYES. [34:57] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATION OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN THE ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF OUR ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY ITS CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [35:08] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD 24 ITEMS. THE FIRST GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL INDIAN HEALTH BOARD OF AIRFARE, LODGING, AND PER DIEM. TWO IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE ON RACE AND EQUITY FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING. THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM FOR TRAVEL AND LODGING. FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM SKYDIO FOR TWO INDIVIDUALS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR TRAVEL, LODGING, AND MEALS. FIVE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE GLOBAL PHILANTHROPY PARTNERSHIP FOR TRAVEL, LODGING, AND MEAL EXPENSES. SIX IS A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH MINNEAPOLIS SUPERVISORS [35:55] Robin Wonsley: ASSOCIATION. 2025-2027. SEVEN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT AFSCME ATTORNEYS UNIT 2025-2027. EIGHT IS AN INITIAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT MINNESOTA PUBLIC EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION-MPD INSPECTORS AND COMMANDERS FOR THE PERIOD JUNE 1, 2024-DECEMBER 31, 2026. [36:17] Robin Wonsley: NINE IS AN INITIAL COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT MINNEAPOLIS ASSOCIATION OF POLICE DEPUTY CHIEFS-MPD ASSISTANT AND DEPUTY CHIEFS FOR THE PERIOD JANUARY 1, 2024-DECEMBER 31, 2026. 10 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH EMERGE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR 2024 YOUTH GROUP VIOLENCE INTERVENTION SERVICES. 11 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH T I-ZACK CONCRETE LLC FOR RAMP IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. 12 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH CDM SMITH, INC. FOR ENGINEERING, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT SERVICES FOR THE FRIDLEY CAMPUS ELECTRICAL REHABILITATION PROJECT. 13 A CONTRACT [37:03] Robin Wonsley: AMENDMENT TO THE CITY HALL RESTACK PHASE 3C PROJECT 14 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SCHINDLER ELEVATOR CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE BUILDING FOR ELEVATOR SERVICE CONTRACT. 15 IS A CONTRACT WITH BOLTON & MENK, INC. FOR ENGINEERING AND DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE FOURTH STREET NORTH AND SOUTH STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. 16 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT FOR SKIDATA INC. FOR THE MINNEAPOLIS CONVENTION CENTER THIRD AVENUE RAMP. 17 IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH 111 PARTNERS, LLC FOR THE ACQUISITION OF A NEW POLICE FIRST PRECINCT BUILDING. 18 IS A BID FOR DEMOLITION OF 1001 [37:50] Robin Wonsley: WEST BROADWAY. 19 IS A BID FOR NICOLLET AVENUE BRIDGE RECONSTRUCTION OVER THE MIDTOWN GREENWAY PROJECT. 20 IS A BID FOR FREMONT SOUTH SANITARY PIPE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. 21 IS A BID FOR 2025 CONCRETE PAVEMENT. [38:10] Robin Wonsley: 22 MINNEAPOLIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES APPOINTMENTS. 23 LEGAL SETTLEMENT STEVEN MEDAHL V. CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. 24 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIM OF JOHNNY MERCIL. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS. [38:31] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LET ME GET MY SPEAKER MANAGEMENT UP TO DATE HERE. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [38:49] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE A FEW GIFT ACCEPTANCES HERE IN THIS AGENDA THAT THE DATE PASSED WHICH IS AGAINST THE FINANCIAL POLICIES TO ACCEPT A GIFT FOR SOMETHING WE CANNOT RETURN IF WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE GIFT. AND I BELIEVE ON THE AEO COMMITTEE, WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION IN THE PAST ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE REQUESTS AND RCAS ARE SUBMITTED ON TIME. AND LOOKING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY PUBLIC FUNDING MATCH FOR THE PARTICULAR GIFT ACCEPTANCES BUT SOME ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK HAVE A CONTRIBUTION, TAX PERIOD CONTRIBUTION TO THE GIFT ACCEPTANCE, AS WELL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE OVERSIGHT OVER THIS [39:37] Katie Cashman: TYPE OF AGENDA ITEM IN FUTURE AEO COMMITTEES. THANK YOU. [39:45] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU. I'LL RECOGNIZE WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [39:53] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO GIVE A QUICK RESPONSE TO COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. OF COURSE, YOU SIT ON THE COMMITTEE, AS WELL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FLAGGED IN COMMITTEE WHERE WE HAVE STAFF PRESENT. I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD OR APPROVED OF IT BECAUSE HEALTH AND AGENDA SETTING GAVE AN EXPLICIT REASON AS TO WHY IT SHOULD BE AND THERE WAS A MISHAP ON THEIR BEHALF. MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT AT THE COMMITTEES FOR THEM TO SPEAK TO THESE GIFT ACCEPTANCES. THAT'S ALSO MY HIGH PRIORITY IS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES. BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S AN OPTION MOVING FORWARD. [40:27] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ? [40:31] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 24 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. [40:39] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ MOVED ITEM NUMBER 24 FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [40:48] Robin Wonsley: GOT IT. I'M GOING TO ADD MYSELF TO THE QUEUE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK AMANDA TEMPLE FOR JOINING. SHE'S BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, BUT, ALSO, VERY ENGAGED IN ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FROM A SYSTEMS LEVEL. AND JUST REALLY GRATEFUL FOR HER COMMITMENT TO THE CITY. [41:14] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ALL ITEMS EXCEPT NUMBER 24. [41:24] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [41:41] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [41:42] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THOSE ITEMS ARE ADOPTED. NEXT WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER 24, AND SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [41:56] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (NO), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (NO), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (NO), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [42:15] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE NINE AYES AND THREE NAYS. [42:17] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THAT ITEM IS ADOPTED. AND THAT COMPLETES THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT REPORT. NEXT THE REPORT FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [42:32] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE BUDGET COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD TWO ITEMS TODAY. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION AMENDING THE 2024 GENERAL APPROPRIATION RESOLUTION MAKING ADJUSTMENTS RELATED TO THE 2024 CONSOLIDATED ACTION PLAN. AND ITEM NUMBER TWO, 2025 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET. AND DIRECTING THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT TO PRESENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THESE ITEMS. [43:10] Elliott Payne: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [43:18] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I NEED TO RESTATE MY OBJECTIONS. I DON'T OBJECT TO THE ENTIRE BUDGET. I CANNOT VOTE FOR THIS. I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE REQUEST IN THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT. THIS BODY GAVE THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS JUST LAST CYCLE. IN A TIME WHEN WE'VE ASKED THE DEPARTMENTS TO CUT THEIR BUDGETS, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST FOR THREE MORE POSITIONS TO THE AMOUNT OF NEARLY $600,000. THANK YOU. [43:46] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [43:53] Katie Cashman: I HAVE ONE QUESTION ... THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE BUDGET CHAIR FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO'S REMARKS THAT THIS IS A $600,000 BUDGET ASK. I UNDERSTOOD THE WHOLE BUDGET TO BE COST NEUTRAL. SO THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL ASK HERE. IS THAT CORRECT, BUDGET CHAIR CHUGHTAI? [44:17] Aisha Chughtai: UMM, THE -- I THINK COUNCILMEMBER, IF YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE -- THE -- SOME OF THE NEW FTES IN THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT, THOSE ARE ONES THAT EXIST IN THE ENTERPRISE RIGHT NOW. AND SO BY -- IN THAT WAY, THEY'RE BUDGET NEUTRAL. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS, AS WELL. I MEAN, OF COURSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ARE, UMM, BRINGING FORWARD TO THE MAYOR, WHO ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDS A BUDGET IN AUGUST. AND WE ULTIMATELY APPROVE IT IN DECEMBER. SO ... UMM, I THINK IT'S HEALTHY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO ASK FOR THE THINGS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO PERFORM CORE SERVICES. [44:57] Katie Cashman: OKAY. THANK YOU. [44:59] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE BUDGET REPORT. [45:13] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (YES ON 1, NO ON 2), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE ON 1, NO ON 2), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE ON 1, NO ON 2), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [45:51] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES ON THE FIRST ITEM AND THREE NOES ON THE SECOND ITEM. [45:53] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE REPORT FROM THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. [46:04] Jamal Osman: THANK YOU. BRINGING 16 ITEMS TODAY. ONE IS A PASSAGE OF RESOLUTION APPROVING MINNEAPOLIS HOMES PROPERTY SALES AND FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS. TWO IS APPROVING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. THREE IS APPROVING A PERMIT OF EXPANSION LICENSE AND SIDEWALK CAFE FOR BLACK SHEEP PIZZA. FOUR IS APPROVING NINE LIQUOR LICENSES. FIVE IS APPROVING 54 LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. SIX IS APPROVING FOUR GAMBLING LICENSES. SEVEN IS AUTHORIZING GRANT SUBMITTAL TO THE 2024 MET COUNCIL LIVABLE COMMUNITY ACCOUNTS. EIGHT IS ACCEPTING AND AUTHORIZING CONSTRUCTION GRANT FROM THE STATE FOR THE UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL MUSIC VENUE. NINE IS AUTHORIZING A CONTRACT FOR THE PROJECT AT 2714 BRYANT AVENUE. 10 IS ADOPTING THE ALTERNATIVE URBAN AREAWIDE REVIEW AND MITIGATION PLAN FOR UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL. 11 IS A GREAT STREET LOAN TO THE LATINO CENTER FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 12 IS APPROVING 21 APPOINTMENTS TO THE MINNEAPOLIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON HOUSING. 13 IS APPROVING AN APPOINTMENT TO THE MINNEAPOLIS PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. 14 IS APPROVING TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE 2024 LICENSE FEE SCHEDULE RELATED TO WINDOW CLEANING AND SAUNA ESTABLISHMENTS. 15 IS APPROVING THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE RELATED TO THE MINNEAPOLIS SKYWAY SYSTEM. 16 IS APPROVING STAFF DIRECTION RELATED TO PET RESTRICTIONS IN RENTAL PROPERTIES. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. [47:54] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [48:02] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, ITEM NUMBER 14, THE LICENSE FEE SCHEDULE. I WOULD MOTION TO POSTPONE ONE CYCLE 14.1, WHICH IS THE LICENSE FEE FOR SAUNA ESTABLISHMENTS. AS WE ALSO POSTPONED THE SAUNA REGISTRATION ORDINANCE BY ONE CYCLE, AS WELL, I'D LIKE THEM TO MOVE TOGETHER. [48:26] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED TO POSTPONE 14.1. IS THERE A SECOND? [48:32] Linea Palmisano: SECOND. [48:33] Elliott Payne: ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE POSTPONEMENT OF 14.1. [48:47] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [49:10] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [49:12] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THAT ITEM WILL BE POSTPONED TO OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING. WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS. COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [49:19] Aurin Chowdhury: UMM, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPOINTMENT AND JUST SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO DAVID SHEPHERD FOR STEPPING UP TO FILL THE PLANNING COMMISSION POSITION. AND I JUST, ALSO, WANTED TO THANK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR SERVING ON THAT BOARD. I SERVE AS THE COUNCIL APPOINTMENT, AND, UMM, THIS BOARD DOES REALLY IMPORTANT WORK. LAND USE REVIEW, SITE PLAN REVIEWS, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, CHANGES OF EXPANSIONS OF NONCONFORMING USES, VARIANCES, AND THEY VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME. THEY COME THROUGH AFTER THEY DO THEIR JOBS AS CITIZENS THAT WE'VE APPOINTED TO DO THIS WORK, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY VALUABLE. I WANTED TO THANK THIS INDIVIDUAL BUT THANK THE WHOLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. [50:20] Elliott Payne: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [50:22] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL TOGETHER ITEMS 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24 FOR A SEPARATE, UMM, MOTION AND DISCUSSION. [50:47] Elliott Payne: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI HAS PULLED ITEMS 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24 FORWARD FOR A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA? COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [50:56] LaTrisha Vetaw: THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM EIGHT. THE UPPER HARBOR TERMINAL CONSTRUCTION. I WANTED TO SAY THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR WARD 4. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME. SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE MOVEMENT ON IT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE COMMUNITY AND LABOR IN THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU TO FIRST AVENUE AND THE FOLKS HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THIS IS EXCITING FOR WARD 4. I'M HONORED TO BE A COUNCILMEMBER. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. AND THE WORK WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS THE GREAT ASSET. [51:54] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [51:56] Michael Rainville: 14.2, I WANT TO THANK SEIU IN THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL AS STAFF. IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS. IT'S A NEW AMENDMENT FOR THE LICENSE FEE. WITH THEIR HELP, WE DID A GOOD JOB. I WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND THEN, ALSO, ITEM 15 WITH THE PERMISSION OF COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, I'D LIKE TO PULL THIS FOR ONE CYCLE. I DID OFFER SOME AMENDMENTS FOR THAT AS SOMEHOW IN THE CONFUSION THE CLERKS DID NOT INCLUDE THAT. UNLESS I'M WRONG? COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THERE. [52:46] Katie Cashman: YEAH. THE VERSION I SEE ON LIMS IS THE ORIGINAL LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. NOT THE AMENDED ONE THAT HAS RAINVILLE AS A COAUTHOR AND ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'D BE HAPPY TO MOVE THE AMENDED VERSION, IF WE HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US AND EXPLAIN WHAT'S ON IT TO OUR COLLEAGUES HERE. SO WE CAN GET THIS IN. THANK YOU. [53:10] Elliott Payne: LET'S PULL 15 OUT FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. WE'LL TAKE UP THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS WHILE THE CLERKS CHECK THEIR DOCUMENTS. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEMS EXCEPT 14.2, 5.24, AND ITEM 15. [53:46] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [54:02] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [54:04] Elliott Payne: THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT UP VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI TO MAKE A MOTION ON 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24. [54:22] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THESE THREE ITEMS ARE ALL RELATED TO THE LIQUOR LICENSES FOR AN ESTABLISHMENT. ON JANUARY 16, THE STAR TRIBUNE REPORTED -- I SEE THAT -- CLERKS. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOUR MICS ARE ON. SORRY. YEAH. ON JANUARY 16, THE STAR TRIBUNE REPORTED THAT THE CO-OWNER OF LOS ANDES HAD BEEN CHARGED WITH THIRD DEGREE CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT RELATED TO A 16-YEAR-OLD EMPLOYEE AFTER THE EMPLOYEE'S SHIFTS. AN ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE THE VICTIM OUT OF REPORTING. UNFORTUNATELY, I LEARNED THIS MORNING THAT MR. KETO HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH FOURTH DEGREE CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONDUCT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS RELATED TO A VERY RECENT CONDUCT. IN LIGHT OF THAT, I'D HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH STAFF THIS MORNING, AND THEY NEED SOME TIME TO REVIEW THE MATTER BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON THESE LICENSES. AND GIVEN THAT, I'LL MOVE TO SEND ITEMS 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24 BACK TO THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE TO ALLOW STAFF TIME THEY NEED FOR THEIR REVIEW. FOR THAT, I'LL ASK FOR A SECOND. [55:37] Katie Cashman: SECOND. [55:38] Elliott Payne: THAT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REFERRAL OF 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24 BACK TO THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [55:53] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M ASKING WHOEVER MIGHT BE THE BEST ONE TO ANSWER HERE. JUST MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION CAME AFTER THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED FROM OUR ATTORNEYS YESTERDAY ON THIS MATTER. [56:07] Aisha Chughtai: THAT'S CORRECT. [56:08] Linea Palmisano: THEY'VE BEEN MADE AWARE, AS WELL. [56:10] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU. [56:12] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE REFERRAL OF ITEMS 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24 BACK TO COMMITTEE. [56:26] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [56:45] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [56:47] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [56:49] Jason Chavez: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, CAN YOU CLARIFY THE ITEMS THAT WERE REFERRED BACK TO COMMITTEE. [56:54] Elliott Payne: YEAH. 4.2, 4.3, AND 5.24. [56:56] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU. [56:58] Casey Carl (City Clerk): MR. PRESIDENT, IF I COULD, REFERRING BACK TO THE ITEM WE TEMPORARILY DISCUSSED. YOU'RE HANDING OUT NOW THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THE ITEM REGARDING THE SKYWAY DIRECTIVE. AND I WILL NOTE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD US WHISPERING. I'M SORRY THE MICROPHONE WAS ON. THE CLERKS DID CAPTURE THE ACTION AT COMMITTEE LEVEL BUT FAILED TO PUT IT IN LIMS. WHAT WAS IN LIMS DID NOT REFLECT THE COMMITTEE'S ACTION. THIS IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE DID. WE HAVE UPLOADED JUST NOW. WE'RE HANDING OUT STAFF COPIES SO YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU PRIOR TO VOTE. [57:45] Elliott Payne: GREAT. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [57:47] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE FOR COLLEAGUES. NOW YOU HAVE A NEW VERSION IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH HAS SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. I AUTHORED THIS BECAUSE OUR SKYWAYS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THEY'RE SUCH AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE. ONE OF THE ONLY CITIES IN THE WORLD WHICH HAS THE INCREDIBLE NETWORK OF ABOVE-GROUND TRANSPORTATION SPACE AND ACTIVATION SPACE. AND, UMM, THERE IS ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT DOES REQUIRE SKYWAY HOURS TO BE OPEN UNTIL WELL INTO THE EVENING AND, ALSO, ON THE WEEKENDS. BUT SINCE COVID, THEY'VE BEEN CLOSING AROUND 6:00 ON THE WEEKDAYS AND ARE MOST NOT OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS. AND SO THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE OWNERS OF THE SKYWAYS AND THE USERS OF THE SKYWAYS TO GET BACK TO THE PRE-PANDEMIC HOURS IN ACCESS OF THE SKYWAY NETWORK AND WHAT SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND SO, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE HAS ADDED A FEW QUESTIONS HERE, WHICH ASKS ABOUT THE HOURS OF THE CITY-OWNED SKYWAYS. AND THE CITY ENFORCING [59:06] Katie Cashman: ITS OWN RULES IN THE SKYWAY NETWORK. AND THEN HOW MUCH THE BUILDING OWNERS ARE PAYING INTO THE DOWNTOWN IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT COLLABORATOR IN FUNDING A LOT OF ACTIVATION AND SECURITY THAT HAPPENS IN THE SKYWAY NETWORK. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. AND MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE. [59:27] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MOVED APPROVAL. IT HAS A COAUTHOR, IT DOESN'T NEED A SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [59:33] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU TO THE CLERKS FOR CLEARING IT UP. I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A PANIC ATTACK HERE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, FOR INTRODUCING THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE SKYWAYS ACTIVATED AGAIN. THIS MORNING I PARKED IN OUR GARAGE AND WALKED OVER TO THE DOWNTOWN COUNCIL OFFICE ON NINTH AND NICOLLET. AND WAS THE STREET EVER BUSY. THERE WERE CARS EVERYWHERE, PEOPLE WALKING DOWNTOWN. IT'S COMING BACK TO LIFE! THIS IS A BIG PART OF THAT ACTIVATION. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS INFORMATION MAKING A WISE DECISION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. [1:00:14] Elliott Payne: I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON NUMBER 15. [1:00:19] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:00:36] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [1:00:38] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THAT ITEM IS ADOPTED. AND THAT COMPLETES THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE REPORT. NEXT REPORT FROM THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [1:00:51] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU. WE'RE BRINGING SEVEN ITEMS TODAY. ONE IS A PUBLIC SEWER EASEMENT TRANSFER FROM THE CITY TO THE MET COUNCIL. TWO IS ACCEPTING AND EXECUTING LEAD SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT ORDERS. THREE IS A LAKE HARRIET PARKWAY PAVING PROJECT RELATED TO ROADWAY. FOUR IS ACCEPTING A LOCAL CLIMATE ACTION GRANT FROM THE MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY FOR THE AS YOU GO MINNEAPOLIS PROGRAM TO THE TUNE OF $50,000. GREAT NEWS. FIVE IS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FRANKLIN AVENUE FROM LYNDALE TO CHICAGO. SIX IS ESTABLISHING A PRIORITY BRIDGE REPLACEMENT LIST. SEVEN IS APPROVING THE PROPOSED COMMENTS ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR THE BLUE LINE LIGHT RAIL EXTENSION AND AUTHORIZING SUBMITTAL OF THE COMMENTS TO MET COUNCIL. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL SEVEN ITEMS. [1:01:52] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:02:00] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU. A QUICK NOTE ON ITEM THREE. LAKE HARRIET PARKWAY PAVING PROJECT. I'M NOT CELEBRATING YET. BUT AS ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WITH PARKWAYS IN THEIR WARDS KNOW, UMM, PARKWAY REPAVING IS A VERY LONG PROCESS. IT TAKES A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT GOES A LOT SLOWER THAN OUR REGULAR ROAD MAINTENANCE BUDGET. AND THIS PARTICULAR ACTION IS JUST FOR THE VARIANCE FOR MSA OPERATIONS. I'LL HOLD ANY CELEBRATION UNTIL AN ACTUAL CONTRACT COMES THROUGH. BUT WE'VE HAD SOME GRANTS FROM THE DNR TO HELP WITH THIS ROADWAY OVER THE YEARS, AND I'M SO THRILLED TO SEE AND TO BE GETTING A BRIEFING IN THE NEAR FUTURE ABOUT THE TWO-YEAR REPAVING OF THIS SPACE. BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY USERS TO THIS AND ALL OF OUR PARKWAYS ACROSS THE CITY. AND THE FIRST STEP, AS IS TYPICAL IN OUR PROJECTS, IS ABOUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY. SO RAMPS AND CURBS AND THAT. THAT ITSELF IS GOING TO BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT. THANK YOU. [1:03:09] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE C & I COMMITTEE REPORT. [1:03:17] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:03:33] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [1:03:35] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:03:45] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS BRINGING FORWARD THREE ITEMS FOR APPROVAL. THE FIRST IS A STAFF DIRECTION FROM PRESIDENT PAYNE RELATED TO MUNICIPAL OVERSIGHT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF CONSENT DECREES. TWO IS 2.1 A RESOLUTION WAIVING ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON A LEGAL MEMO RELATED TO THE CURRENT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH MDHR AND 2.2 IS ITEM 438 WITHIN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH MDHR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE ALL THESE ITEMS FOR SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE. [1:04:18] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED FOR A DISCUSSION AND VOTE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM. INCLUDING SUB POINTS 2.1 AND 2.2. WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE FIRST. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM ONE. [1:04:44] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:05:04] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [1:05:06] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THAT ITEM IS ADOPTED. NEXT ITEM 2.1, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION WAIVING ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE ON A LEGAL MEMO RELATED TO STAFF DIRECTIVES. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? ATTORNEY ANDERSON. [1:05:26] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOT SURE WHAT YOUR INTENTIONS ARE WITH RESPECT TO THIS. I WANT TO BE ON RECORD WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS. TO BE CLEAR, THIS WAIVER THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING WOULD BE ONLY WITH RESPECT TO THE CONTENTS OF THE MEMO AT ISSUE ITSELF AND NOTHING ELSE. NUMBER TWO, EVEN THOUGH THIS WOULD BE A NARROW WAIVER, I NEED TO SAY, AGAIN, I ADVISE AGAINST WAIVING ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THREE, I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BEFORE YOU VOTE TO WAIVE PRIVILEGE, YOU SHOULD BE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WAIVING. THAT YOU HAVE THOROUGHLY READ THE MEMO AND YOU DON'T HAVE REMAINING QUESTIONS PERTINENT TO YOUR DECISION WHETHER TO VOTE TO WAIVE. MAKING SURE THAT YOUR DECISION IS A KNOWING DECISION. THANKS. [1:06:15] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [1:06:17] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I DON'T HAVE A LAW DEGREE AND, THUS, I'll FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE PROPER THING THAT WE SHOULD ALL DO. THANK YOU. [1:06:32] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:06:34] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I'll SHARE MORE CONTEXT IN THE FOLLOWING MOTION. THE INTENT BEHIND BRINGING THIS, I THOUGHT, WAS STATED PRETTY CLEARLY DURING THE C.O.W. MEETING ON TUESDAY. THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE INTEGRATE THE NOW DISMISSED PROVISIONS OF THE FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE INTO THE LOCAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS. FOR SIX MONTHS NOW, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CLOSED SESSIONS WHERE WE'VE ASKED FOR THE PATHWAY AND THE MEMO GIVES US A "NO." IT DOESN'T GIVE US A "HOW." WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A "HOW." ALSO, THERE'S BEEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY OR EXTENDED STAFF TO COME IN AND EXPLAIN IN CLOSED SESSION OR PUBLICLY BEFORE THIS BODY TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY LANDED AT A "NO" INSTEAD OF PROVIDING A "HOW." SIX MONTHS HAVE TRANSPIRED. FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GIVE A BASIS FOR WHY THEY DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD PROCEED INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING "NO, NO, NO." WE'RE LOOKING TO PURSUE THE "HOW." THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR BOTH THIS BODY AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE LANDING AT A PLACE OF A "NO." SO I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. LIKE, I WANT TO HEAR THE CITY ATTORNEY GIVE THEIR RATIONALE. IT'S UNCLEAR BASED OFF WHAT IS SHARED IN THE MEMO. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY OR MORE THOROUGHLY WITHOUT HAVING THE TRANSPARENCY AROUND IT. IT GIVES US THE TRANSPARENCY. CITY COUNCILS HAVE TAKEN ACTIONS TO DO WAIVERS BEFORE. WE WENT THROUGH THE PROPER LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE YOU CAN CONSIDER SOMETHING TO ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THAT TRANSPARENCY. SO I WANTED TO NAME THAT IS WHY. SIX MONTHS OF ASKING HOW AND THEN GETTING THE MEMO THAT SAID "NO." [1:08:40] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:08:42] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE END OF THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION CONVERSATION ON THIS. SHOULDN'T WE BE WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THE CONVERSATION AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE A FINAL DISPOSITION ON THESE TWO ITEMS? [1:09:03] Elliott Payne: MADAM CITY ATTORNEY? [1:09:05] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBERS. YES. WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION BRIEFING ON A MULTITUDE OF THINGS RELATED TO THE MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT COMING AT THE END OF THE MEETING. AS I SAID, I MEAN, I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU WAIVE PRIVILEGE PERIOD. AGAIN, IF FOLKS FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A KNOWING WAIVER, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST THAT THEY ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY NEED TO IN CLOSED SESSION. [1:09:40] Elliott Payne: AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD THE SUBJECT OF THAT MEMO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE ARE GIVING NOTICE FOR THE CLOSED SESSION? [1:09:48] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YES. [1:09:49] Linea Palmisano: MR. CHAIR, I WILL NOT GO BACK THROUGH MY COMMENTS FROM THE LAST MEETING. THEY WERE -- THEY WERE EMOTIONAL. THIS MATTERS A LOT TO ME. IT'S BEEN AN EVOLVING CONVERSATION. HOW WE MERGE ALL OF OUR INTENT. ALL OF OUR INTENT HERE. AND THAT IS WHAT LISTENERS IN THE AUDIENCE SAID TO ME AFTER THE MEETING. ALL OF OUR INTENT HERE IS THE SAME: TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING PUBLICLY THESE INTENDED REFORMS FROM BOTH THE PROPOSED CONSENT DECREE AND OUR APPROVED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. BUT I'll JUST POINT IT OUT, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE STRONGLY SUGGESTED WE NOT DO THIS. SECONDLY, THE MEMO IS ALREADY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. ALSO, WHY WOULD OUR CITY ATTORNEY EVER PUT ANYTHING IN WRITING EVER AGAIN IF YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE THIS ACTION TODAY? IF THIS MEMO WAS LEAKED AND THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND IN SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT'S ONE PERSON'S ACTION. IF WE AS A BODY SEEK TO DO THIS, ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S STRONG INTEREST IN SAYING "THIS IS A BAD IDEA," THAT SAYS SOMETHING ELSE. [1:11:18] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [1:11:20] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO WHERE THIS IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. [1:11:27] Linea Palmisano: MR. CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, I'VE SEEN IT ON TWITTER, X, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. CLIPS HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA OVER THE PAST WEEK. [1:11:36] Katie Cashman: I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T TRUST JUST RANDOM THINGS THAT I SEE ON TWITTER. AND I THINK IF THIS IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, IT SHOULD BE PUBLIC BY WAY OF THE CITY'S CHANNELS, WHICH ARE TRUSTED. [1:11:50] Linea Palmisano: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE ARE EXACT QUOTES AND EXCERPTS FROM THE MEMO IN SOCIAL MEDIA. FOR THAT REASON, THIS MEMO WAS LEAKED. SOMEBODY ELSE DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE SAME LANGUAGE AS OUR CITY ATTORNEY. [1:12:01] Katie Cashman: I DON'T THINK THAT THERE BEING CLIPS OR SNIPPETS ON TWITTER MEANS IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. UMM, BUT I ALSO REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE RISK OF THIS BECOMING PUBLIC INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED BACK TO THE 2021 CASE IN LIMS OF WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL, AT THAT TIME, WAIVED PRIVILEGE. I WAS NOT HERE AT THE TIME. AND I'M WONDERING IF ANYONE CAN FILL ME IN ON WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT THAT WE'D LIKE TO AVOID THIS TIME. [1:12:43] Elliott Payne: I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO, YOU WERE HERE. MR. CLERK, YOU WERE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER OF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. [1:12:48] Linea Palmisano: I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO IT, MR. CHAIR. I DID GO BACK, AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, AND WATCH THE ENTIRE THING. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PAINFUL THING TO WATCH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING BACK TO WHEN WE WERE ALL OPERATING REMOTELY. AND THIS WAS A FOLLOW-ON, THIS PARTICULAR ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE BACK IN 2021. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER? IT WAS ABOUT LESS LETHAL WEAPONS. BUT THE COUNCIL IN 2021 HAD ALREADY TAKEN A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT TO MAKE POLICY AGAINST EVER USING LESS LETHAL FORCE ON INDIVIDUALS. IT WAS A RESOLUTION THAT PASSED WITH ONE NO-VOTE AND ONE ABSTENTION. I WAS THE NO-VOTE. I USED SEVERAL EXAMPLES AS TO WHY THERE ARE TIMES IN POLICING THAT YOU SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES BY USING LESS LETHAL FORCE FOR CROWD CONTROL INSTEAD OF LETHAL FORCE. I SPOKE ABOUT HOW LESS LETHAL FORCE WAS AN EVOLVING POLICY IN OUR CITY. THAT AFTER THE UPRISING IN 2020, OUR USE OF FORCE POLICY HAD CHANGED, I THINK I SAID SIX TIMES. AND I HAD BEEN ABLE TO STEP THROUGH ALL THOSE TIMES. THIS PARTICULAR WAIVING OF CLIENT PRIVILEGE WAS BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION ALSO CONTAINED A PROVISION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IF COUNCIL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE THIS INTO AN ORDINANCE. THE CITY ATTORNEY SUBMITTED A PRIVATE RESPONSE AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS ASKED TO BE WAIVED. I APPROVED THAT. IT WAS PRETTY MUCH DONE WITHOUT DISCUSSION BECAUSE FROM MY RECOLLECTION, IT WAS DONE IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD BE MADE PUBLIC. IT WAS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INTENT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD SORT OF END THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT WAS NOT SEEN AS A RIGHT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD TO MAKE ORDINANCES THAT WAY. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON WAS ALSO HERE. HE COULD OPINE ON THAT, IF HE WANTS. [1:14:53] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, YOU'RE IN QUEUE. [1:14:57] Jeremiah Ellison: YEAH. JUST -- [1:14:58] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANY NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE OF WAIVING PRIVILEGE? [1:15:09] Linea Palmisano: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, THAT MEMO WAS WRITTEN IN THE WAY WE COULD DO SO. IT WAS WRITTEN WITH THE INTENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT IT WOULD BE MADE PUBLIC. THAT WAS THE INTENT FROM THE BEGINNING. AND, ALSO, I MUST ADMIT, COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS WAS COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME. SHE MIGHT HAVE SOME THINGS TO SHARE ON IT, AS WELL. BUT IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT -- THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT ACTION THAN HAVING A BODY WAIVE PRIVILEGE ON SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY WROTE THAT WAS MEANT TO SORT OF BE FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING. VERSUS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADVICE GIVEN TO US BY OUR ATTORNEY AS STEWARDS AND AS ELECTED MEMBERS OF THIS BODY. THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. [1:15:53] Katie Cashman: SO I ... WILL ALWAYS ERR ON THE SIDE OF TRANSPARENCY UNLESS THERE'S A VERY GOOD REASON OR VERY SIGNIFICANT HARM OR CONSEQUENCE THAT WOULD BE AT PLAY. AND I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT REASON FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND I'LL JUST -- I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THIS UP AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL NEED A GOOD REASON TO NOT WAIVE PRIVILEGE, IN THIS CASE, AND WILL BE WAITING FOR THE CONVERSATION IN THE CLOSED SESSION TO HEAR THAT REASON. SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO MOVE THIS UNTIL AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. [1:16:38] Linea Palmisano: I WILL SECOND IT. [1:16:41] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN'S POINT. BECAUSE IT'S PRIVILEGED, I'M LIMITED TO GIVE YOU A FULSOME EXPLANATION OF ANY RISKS IN A PUBLIC FORUM. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN CLOSED SESSION. [1:17:10] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER -- WELL, WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION BEFORE US. MR. CLERK, DO WE NEED TO DISPOSE OF WHAT IS HERE OR THE MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE END? IS THAT A PROPER MOTION? [1:17:21] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. POSTPONE UNTIL AFTER SESSION WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY RANKING THAN TO APPROVE THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. [1:17:27] Elliott Payne: THAT MOTION, I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [1:17:34] Jeremiah Ellison: I SEE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY -- OKAY. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE BASE MOTION. SO I DON'T KNOW ... I'M HAPPY TO WAIT IS WHAT I'M SAYING. [1:17:43] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:17:45] Robin Wonsley: YEAH. THANK YOU. I WANT TO NOTE ALSO COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THE PIECE OF THE RISK. I THINK YOU ASKED SOMETHING SIMILAR AT C.O.W. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY NAMED SOME OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT WERE SPECULATIVE RISKS. THEY TALKED ABOUT CERTAIN PARTIES THAT MIGHT BE INVOLVED. SO I'M HEARING SOMETHING EVEN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NOW FROM THE ATTORNEY SAYING NOW WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL RISKS IN CLOSED SESSION. IF WE ROLL THE TAPE TO C.O.W. THERE WERE THINGS THEY NAMED. EVEN THEN IT DIDN'T RISE TO THE OCCASION OF SOMETHING SERIOUS. I WANT TO FLAG IN THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL PASSED IN 2021, THE MEMO THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRODUCED THAT I'M HEARING COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO REFERENCE THAT THERE WAS ALWAYS AN INTENT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC. THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND, ACTUALLY, THEY WROTE IT IN THE RESOLUTION. THEY NAMED THAT THEY REQUESTED A MEMO AND THE MEMO WAS PRIVILEGED AND SENT TO COUNCIL. THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT PUBLIC SO THAT THE PUBLIC COULD UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD THE CITY ATTORNEY GIVE THE ADVICE THEY WERE PROVIDING WITH REGARDS TO THE LESS LETHAL FORCE ORDINANCE THEY WERE CONSIDERING. IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE MOTION AS "PLEASE PRODUCE A PUBLIC VERSION OF THIS MEMO THAT CAN BE SHARED." SO THAT WAS NEVER CREATED WITH THE ORIGINAL INTENT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW. AND THEY EVEN MAKE NOTE OF THAT IN THE RESOLUTION ITSELF. SO I KEEP WANTING TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS ACTUALLY A STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS. AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY, AGAIN, TO TALK IN THE CLOSED SESSION, BUT THAT IS THE ISSUE HERE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR SIX MONTHS IN THE CLOSED SESSION. AND SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH, WHICH IS SOME OF US MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS AFTER THE LAST CLOSED SESSION, AND GOT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INFORMATION FROM WHAT WE HAD BEEN HEARING FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS. I MEAN, THAT IS THE BASELINE OF WHY THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME TRANSPARENCY AS PERTAINING TO HOW WE ACTIVATE TERMS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS US A PATHWAY TO CODIFY THOSE FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE TERMS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S TAKING SIX MONTHS OF HAVING MULTIPLE -- AND I'M SOMEONE WHO BROUGHT THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE THAT ASKED PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND CLERKS OF "HOW DID WE DO THIS? HOW BEST TO CONSULT WITH OUR CAO ON HOW TO ACTIVATE THIS?" AND YOU ALL NAMED WE SHOULD DO IT IN CLOSED SESSION. I BROUGHT THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE WITH THE AMENDMENT REFLECTING THAT RECOMMENDATION ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO. AND IN THAT PROCESS, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY FURTHER TO BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHAT IS THE FORMAL PROCESS FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH HUMAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. WE'VE HAD SIX MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT IT IN CLOSED SESSION. ANOTHER CLOSED SESSION, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL GET US THERE. THIS IS WHY WE BROUGHT THE SUBSEQUENT MOTION TO LITERALLY ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEYS "HOW?" BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO FOR SIX MONTHS. TO TELL US HOW. BOTH PARTIES—THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL—HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO CODIFY. AND I WANT TO NAME, THAT IS THE INTENT. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO MENTIONED WE ALL HAD SHARED INTENT TO TRACK THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CONSENT DECREE TERMS. IT INVOLVES MORE THAN TRACKING. HOW DO WE ACTUALLY PUT A LEGALLY BINDING AGREEMENT IN PLACE SO THAT THERE IS FORMAL TRACKING, SO THAT THERE IS AN ABILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ALSO HAVE A MECHANISM TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE FOR DELIVERING ON POLICE REFORM, WHICH FOR MANY YEARS, WE'VE HAD THIS MAYOR, PREVIOUS MAYORS, MAYBE EVEN FUTURE MAYORS THAT MIGHT SAY, "YES, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT" AND NOT DOING IT ANYWAY. AND IT PROVES TO BE FALSE. THIS GIVES US A PATHWAY TO CODIFY THAT. THAT WILL OUTLAST OUR TIME HERE, THE CURRENT MAYOR, AND OTHER FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS. SAYING "WE'RE DOING IT ANYWAY," PASSING EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT CAN BE OVERTURNED EITHER UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION OR FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS DOESN'T GIVE US THE PATHWAY. SO, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE HAD SIX MONTHS WHERE THE CITY ATTORNEYS COULD HAVE GOTTEN US QUICKER TO THIS PROCESS. AND THAT'S BEEN ARTICULATED AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IN THE MEMO THERE WAS A COMPLETE BAIT AND SWITCH AND DIFFERENT TUNE. SO I THINK THAT IS WHY IT WARRANTS A PUBLIC CONVERSATION. YOU'VE HAD SIX MONTHS TO DO THE PRIVATE. AND WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY PROGRESS ON THAT. [1:22:35] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:22:37] Linea Palmisano: MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY CLERK. I THINK THAT COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, AND I ARE ALL CALLING ON OUR MEMORY HERE, THOUGH I GO BACK AND WATCH THE PROCEEDINGS OF THIS. MR. CLERK, CAN YOU TELL ME, HOW MANY TIMES -- JUST IN YOUR KNOWLEDGE -- HAS THE COUNCIL WAIVED PRIVILEGE ON A LETTER ON ADVICE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY? [1:23:05] Casey Carl (City Clerk): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, TO COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO'S INQUIRY. I WAS INTERESTED MYSELF ON THIS AND I ASKED OUR ASSISTANT CLERK JACKIE HANSON, WHO HAS BEEN HERE 40 YEARS. AND THE TWO OF US CHECKED OUR DATABASES. AND GOING BACK TO AT LEAST 1980, WHICH IS WHERE WE STOPPED WITH OUR DATABASES, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE INSTANCE WHERE COUNCIL WAIVED PRIVILEGE AND IT'S THE INSTANCE CITED BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:23:25] Linea Palmisano: SO IT WAS THE ITEM IN 2021 THAT I THINK I THOROUGHLY EXPLAINED TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND RECOLLECTION. IN MY RECOLLECTION, THIS WAS WRITTEN BECAUSE IT WAS DIRECTED TO BE WRITTEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY SUCH THAT IT GET MADE PUBLIC. PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY DECIDED "WE'LL MAKE THAT ONE PUBLIC AND LET'S BE DONE WITH THIS." BUT I FIRMLY POINTED OUT AT COMMITTEE THAT VOTING TO SEND A MEMO TO THE MAYOR ACROSS THE STREET ABOUT THE CONSENT DECREE IS NOT USEFUL FOR PEOPLE IN MINNEAPOLIS. YOU HAD TIME. IN MY MIND, WE STILL HAVE TIME TO PERHAPS DEVELOP A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ENGAGE US AS A BODY FORMALLY IN THAT WORK. AND THAT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD STAND. IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT FUTURE COUNCILS WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE OR UNDO IF THEY DID NOT WANT TO BE A PART. SO, TO ME, THAT'S A BETTER METHOD OF WORKING TOGETHER. THAT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE ACTION OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY. IT HOLDS GREAT WEIGHT IF ALL CITY COUNCILS CHOOSE TO WAIVE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN THIS CASE. IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I CAN ALREADY SEE THE E-MAILS COMING FOR EVERY OTHER THING TO WAIVE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY. AND I JUST STAND BY WHAT I SAID. LET'S PLEASE WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE. WE RECEIVE CANDID FEEDBACK AND ADVICE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY. AND PLEASE APPROVE COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN'S MOTION TO DO SO. [1:25:01] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I FEEL SOME COMPULSION TO DEFEND MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE. NO OTHER CITY HAS BEEN IN THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN. NO OTHER CITY. I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL. I LEARN AS I GO. INFORMATION COMES IN AS I GO AND AS ANY GOOD ATTORNEY, THAT ANALYSIS NEEDS TO BE DONE. I HAVE DONE THE BEST THAT I CAN IN A VERY, VERY UNUSUAL SITUATION. EVEN PROFESSOR MORAN IS QUOTED IN AXIOS AS SAYING "THIS IS UNCHARTED TERRITORY." AND THE ACTION THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS ME TO TAKE TO COMBINE THE CONSENT DECREE AND THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IS A QUOTE, "LONG SHOT." I WANT TO, AGAIN, DEFEND MY OWN PROFESSIONAL REPUTATION AND THAT OF MY OFFICE. I AM DOING THE BEST THAT I CAN IN A SITUATION THAT TRULY NO ONE ELSE HAS FACED. [1:26:07] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:26:09] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CLERK CARL. IF YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH US HOW MANY CONSENT DECREES WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WE'VE HAD IN THE HISTORY OF MINNEAPOLIS. [1:26:30] Casey Carl (City Clerk): MR. PRESIDENT, TO COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. NONE. [1:26:35] Jason Chavez: SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS? [1:26:37] Casey Carl (City Clerk): IN TERMS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE REFERRING TO. NONE. [1:26:39] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU. [1:26:40] Elliott Payne: VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [1:26:42] Aisha Chughtai: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, I DON'T READ THIS ITEM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POSTPONEMENT OF IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE FOR US TO DISPOSE OF THE ITEM NOW. I CAN TOTALLY SEE US DOING THIS LENGTHY DISCUSSION AGAIN IN A COUPLE OF HOURS WHEN WE GET OUT OF CLOSED SESSION. AND, ULTIMATELY, I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS CHANGING THEIR MIND HERE. BUT -- SORRY -- WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MAYBE. BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. I THINK WHERE WE ALL HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT IS WE ARE LIVING IN PRETTY UNPRECEDENTED TIMES, AND WE ARE NAVIGATING UNCHARTED TERRITORY TOGETHER. UMM, I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR -- I'VE NOT HEARD THE INTENT OF THIS RESOLUTION BEING AN ATTACK ON OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S REPUTATION OR HER CHARACTER OR HER WORK ETHIC. I CAN APPRECIATE THAT TENSIONS ARE RUNNING HIGH, BUT I THINK EVERYONE IS DOING THE BEST THEY CAN. AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE ATTORNEY FEELS A NEED TO DEFEND HER REPUTATION, AND NO ONE IS ATTACKING IT. LITERALLY NO ONE IS ATTACKING IT RIGHT NOW. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT. SECONDLY, I HEARD COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT A SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND BEING ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER WEEK OR EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM HERE UNTIL, I DON'T KNOW, THE END OF TIME, THAT WE ARE TAKING UP CONSIDERATION OF WAIVING ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. AND I JUST -- LIKE, THE EVIDENCE JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT IN ANY WAY. THE LAST TIME WE WAIVED PRIVILEGE WAS ALSO DURING INCREDIBLY UNPRECEDENTED TIMES IN 2021. HERE WE ARE FOUR YEARS LATER DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS SEMI-RELATED TO WHAT YOU WERE TAKING UP BACK IN 2021, AND CLEARLY, IT DIDN'T PRODUCE A SLIPPERY SLOPE. AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT -- IT'S GOING A LITTLE FAR TO SAY THAT THIS ACTION IS GOING TO PRODUCE WAIVING PRIVILEGE EVERY CYCLE OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SO, JUST WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE THAT. AND, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. [1:29:43] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [1:29:45] Jeremiah Ellison: KEEP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. BUT I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER CLOSED SESSION, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT I WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS. ONE IS THAT WITH THE NATURE OF BEING IN AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION, IT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF STUMBLE THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT. AND I THINK IT'S TOTALLY FAIR FOR US TO ACKNOWLEDGE TWO THINGS. ONE IS THAT WHILE THIS ACTION ITSELF MAYBE ISN'T A SLIPPERY SLOPE, I THINK WE'D BE KIDDING OURSELVES TO SAY IT COULDN'T BECOME ONE. THAT'S A COMMITMENT THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD THEN HAVE TO MAKE AFTER THIS ACTION. AND I SAY THAT AS SOMEBODY WHO BASICALLY SUPPORTS THIS ACTION. THE REASON I SUPPORT IT IS BECAUSE THE SCOPE IS NARROW. WE'RE NOT WAIVING PRIVILEGE INDEFINITELY. I'VE READ THE MEMO. I ALSO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF -- I'VE GOTTEN QUESTIONS. I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF US HAVE MAYBE GOTTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY WE CAN'T DO THIS OR WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT. AND I THINK IT'S CLARIFYING FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S POSSIBLE, VIABLE, LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE. I THINK ALL OF THAT IS VALID. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC AND CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE PROCEED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO HOLD UP IS THAT CITY ATTORNEY ANDERSON MENTIONED THAT SHE'S BEEN PUT IN THE -- AND THE CITY HAS BEEN PUT IN AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION. I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND HAVE A LITTLE EMPATHY FOR THAT, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE MAKING EVERY RIGHT CALL OR THAT EVERY CITY ATTORNEY ANDERSON IS MAKING EVERY RIGHT CALL, BUT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE NAVIGATING THESE UNPRECEDENTED TIMES TOGETHER, I THINK THAT WE'RE BETTER OFF DOING IT COLLABORATIVELY. THAT GOES FOR THE MAYOR, THAT GOES FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THAT ALSO GOES FOR US. AND SO THAT'S ... I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THAT AS WE ALL PROCEED IN THIS WAY THAT FEELS FRUSTRATING, WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT, WE WANT TO BE WITHIN OUR LEGAL BOUNDS HERE. DRAWING HARD LINES ABOUT WHO IS AND ISN'T IN THE FIGHT WITH US IS NOT GOING TO BE THAT PRODUCTIVE TOWARD GETTING US A RESOLUTION HERE. AND SO I WANTED TO SAY THAT. UMM, I'M, YOU KNOW... I THINK THAT IF GENUINELY THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER CLOSED SESSION IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO EXACTLY THIS AGAIN, THEN I DON'T WANT TO POSTPONE. BUT, YEAH, IF THERE'S REAL ROOM FOR DISCUSSION AND COLLABORATION HERE, I GUESS IT'S NOT THE WORST THING. I DON'T MIND IT. SO I'M ERRING ON THE SIDE OF NOT SUPPORTING THE POSTPONEMENT. I THINK AS IT STANDS, WE'RE GOING TO LAND BACK WHERE WE ARE. I THINK THERE ARE GENUINE QUESTIONS AND GENUINE BRIDGES THAT CAN BE BUILT IF WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I OFFER THAT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. MAYBE NOTHING. BUT, YEAH. THANK YOU. [1:33:09] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [1:33:11] Aurin Chowdhury: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH SOMETHING. I'll SAY THAT. I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE ON SOMETHING THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED. AND I THINK TO UNDERPLAY THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH THIS BODY IS TAKING THE WAIVING OF PRIVILEGE IS NOT CORRECT. LIKE, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY IS TAKING IT VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. AND IT IS FOR AN ITEM THAT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO OUR WORK, TO THE WORK OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DOJ CONSENT DECREE, AND THE FUNCTIONS OF OUR BODY. AND I DO WANT TO JUST AMPLIFY THE FACT THAT BEING A COUNCILMEMBER THAT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH THE CAO'S OFFICE ON THE MDH SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DISMISSAL OF THE DOJ CONSENT DECREE, THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS NEW TO ME AND THAT TOOK ME ABACK AND WAS A CHANGING OF THE TERRAIN IN OUR ABILITY OF WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO. AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, AS A COUNCILMEMBER, I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THAT WE, AS A CITY COUNCIL, ARE ABLE TO MAKE THIS TYPE OF REQUEST OF HAVING THE DOJ CONSENT DECREE FOLDED INTO THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ASK THAT OF OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT WE ACTUALLY MADE THE ACTION AND PUT IT INTO THE RCA FORM. AND THAT IS JUST ME STATING THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A CLUNKINESS OF PROCESS AND THERE WAS JUST A CONTRADICTION OF INFORMATION FOR ME IN ORDER TO DO THIS WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH NOTING AND NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION I'll NAME IS MANY TIMES IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT THIS HAS BEEN MADE PUBLIC. AND THIS WAIVING OF PRIVILEGE WOULD ALSO ALLOW FOR IT TO BECOME PUBLIC AND US HAVE THIS PUBLIC DISCUSSION. SO I AM NOT SURE ABOUT HOW THE RISK ITSELF CHANGES WHEN THAT'S THE CASE. BUT I THINK -- AND THIS IS JUST BASED OFF WHAT I FEEL IN MY GUT -- THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION TOGETHER SINCE WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME RIGHT NOW DISCUSSING IT IN CLOSED SESSION WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEYS. I PERSONALLY DO THINK AFTER THAT CONVERSATION, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE WAIVING OF PRIVILEGE FOR THE REASONS I HAVE STATED BEFORE. BUT I THINK IT WARRANTS US HAVING THE CONVERSATION AFTER CLOSED SESSION. I'll BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION AT THIS TIME. BUT I DON'T WANT THIS BODY OR THE PUBLIC TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY. THE FACT IS THERE'S BEEN AN INCONSISTENCY OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RECEIVED. AND IT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ITEM THAT WE'RE TAKING ON AND ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT. AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT SHOW UP HERE AROUND THE GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND FUNCTIONS AND WE HAVE ONLY RECENTLY CHANGED GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE AND CITIES THAT HAVE HAD CHANGED GOVERNMENT STRUCTURE FOR MORE THAN A DECADE ARE FIGURING OUT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND SO THIS IS A PART OF THAT GROWING PAIN MUDDLED INTO AN ISSUE THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED. I WANT TO NAME THAT, AS WELL. [1:37:05] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [1:37:08] Michael Rainville: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WISE WORDS. I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE A CALMING EFFECT HERE ON THIS DISCUSSION. THANK YOU FOR THAT LEVEL OF MATURITY. I'll BE VOTING TO GET AWAY FROM THE TV CAMERAS AND TALK AMONGST OURSELVES. AND CITY ATTORNEY ANDERSON, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR YOU BEING ATTACKED. I BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE BEING CALLED OUT. [1:37:34] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. [1:37:36] LaTrisha Vetaw: THANK YOU. I WON'T USE THE WORD "ATTACK" BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS AN ATTACK. BUT I BELIEVE THAT HER INTEGRITY WAS QUESTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY UP HERE. AND THEN VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI WENT ON TO GASLIGHT US AND MAKE US THINK WE DIDN'T HEAR WHAT WE CLEARLY HEARD UP HERE. I DON'T LIKE THAT. IF THERE'S -- LIKE, I'M READY FOR US TO VOTE. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY IS 100% CORRECT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SIX MONTHS. PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE HOWEVER THEY WANT TO AND LET THIS CONVERSATION END WITH THAT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ACTING LIKE WHAT JUST HAPPENED UP HERE FOR 45 MINUTES DIDN'T HAPPEN, I FIND A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION AND BEING ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND THERE DEFINITELY HAS BEEN -- COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY CERTAINLY QUESTIONED THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND IT'S RECORDED. AND WE CAN GO BACK AND LISTEN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VICE PRESIDENT'S INTERPRETATION OF IT WAS, BUT I KNOW WHAT MINE WAS. AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO JUST MOVE FORWARD, VOTE ON THIS, AND LET WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS AFTERWARDS. [1:39:03] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:39:05] Linea Palmisano: MR. CHAIR, I JUST FOUND THIS MEMO HAVING BEEN STATED IT WAS OBTAINED BY THE "STAR TRIBUNE" ON JUNE 10th IN AN ARTICLE. IT'S IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. JUST SAYING. I THINK DIFFERENT THAN WAIVING ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE IN 2021, WHEN WE ASKED "DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE AUTHORITY TO WRITE AN ORDINANCE ABOUT USE OF FORCE AND LESS LETHAL FORCE," THAT WAS A QUESTION. THIS IS A BIT DIFFERENT. THIS OPENS US UP TO A DIFFERENT KIND OF LIABILITY HERE AS A BODY IN TALKING ABOUT THESE DECISIONS THAT ARE ABOUT LEGAL COURT CASES. AND I DO HOPE THAT WE ALL, UP HERE, HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE OUR MINDS WHEN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS PRESENTED. I DO HOPE THAT WE CAN HOLD STEADFASTLY TO OUR PRINCIPLES UP HERE, BUT WE CAN ALSO SEE NEW INFORMATION AND LOOK TO CHANGE OUR MINDS. MY OWN MIND WAS CHANGED WHEN DOJ WANTED TO CANCEL THE CONSENT DECREE AND I PROBABLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, LIKE, "WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE STRONGEST PIECES OF ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND PUT IT INTO ONE." NOW AFTER LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS, AND WITH ATTORNEY ADVICE FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT WE'VE SELECTED TO BE OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE LEADER, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. AND SO I CHANGED MY MIND. SO IF YOU SEE A LITTLE MORE CONVERSATION AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS POSTPONEMENT UNTIL AFTER THAT CONVERSATION TODAY. THANK YOU. [1:40:47] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THE POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 2.1 UNTIL AFTER CLOSED SESSION. [1:41:00] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), CHAVEZ (NO), VETAW (NO), ELLISON (NO), WONSLEY (NO), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (NO), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:41:20] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE SIX AYES AND FIVE NAYS. [1:41:21] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND WE'll TAKE THAT UP AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA. NEXT WE'll TAKE UP ITEM 2.2. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:41:40] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (COME BACK TO ME), PALMISANO (NO), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (NO), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (NO), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), JENKINS (NO), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:42:12] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE EIGHT AYES AND FOUR NAYS. [1:42:13] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. AND THE ITEM IS ADOPTED. WE WILL RETURN TO ITEM 2.1 ONCE WE FINISH OUR CLOSED SESSION. SO WE WILL FINISH WITH OUR STANDING COMMITTEES AND HAVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:42:35] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IS BRINGING FORWARD FOUR ITEMS. ITEM ONE IS AN HONORARY RESOLUTION FOR VICTIMS OF POLICE BRUTALITY. TWO IS ACCEPTING A GRANT FOR THE MINNESOTA AUTO THEFT PREVENTION FROM THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THREE IS CONSIDERING A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT SERVICES. THIS ITEM WAS FORWARDED WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. AND LASTLY, FOUR IS APPROVING 21 APPOINTMENTS FOR THE SAFE AND THRIVING COMMUNITIES WORK GROUP. WITH THAT, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL ITEMS AND SEPARATE DISCUSSION AND VOTE FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. [1:43:05] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. WE'll TAKE UP ONE, TWO, AND FOUR ON A SEPARATE VOTE AND DISCUSSION ON THREE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS? SEEING NONE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:43:29] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [1:43:52] Casey Carl (City Clerk): 12 AYES. [1:43:53] Elliott Payne: THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT WE'll TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [1:44:00] Jason Chavez: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANT TO SEPARATE OFF THIS VOTE. I'll BE VOTING AGAINST THIS ITEM. A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF MINNESOTA ON BEHALF OF THE MINNESOTA STATE PATROL THAT IS MEANT TO ASSIST LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES, INCLUDING PATROLS THAT MAY INCLUDE SPECIALTY ASSIGNMENTS SUCH AS DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE AND LARGE EVENT SECURITY. MY CONCERN WITH THE JPA IS IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE MINNESOTA STATE PATROL OFFICERS TO FOLLOW THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, NOR THE PROVISIONS OF THE MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY OPINION. IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, THEY CAN. [1:44:39] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [1:44:40] Michael Rainville: SECOND. [1:44:41] Elliott Payne: THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AND SECONDED. [1:45:00] Elliott Payne: UMM, I'll GET IN QUEUE. I THINK THE LAST TIME THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT CAME THROUGH, THIS WAS DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T THINK WE WERE PAYING AS CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE. MY FOCUS WAS REALLY AROUND OUR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND ENSURING THAT ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT IS OPERATING WITHIN CITY LIMITS IS AT LEAST ABIDING BY SOME OF THE MAIN TENETS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. WE KNOW WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT THE FULL PROVISIONS OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON ANOTHER AGENCY. BUT WE HAD WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DRAFT UP A JOINT STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES TO INCLUDE IN THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT. I NEVER SAW THAT JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT COME BACK FORWARD. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION IN COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT WAS THE HISTORY OF THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT A RESPONSE. BUT I SEE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MPD. WOULD YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE STATE PATROL. [1:45:39] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): AH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILMEMBERS. DEPUTY CHIEF KINGSBURY. THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE COORDINATION WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS. NOT ONLY IN TIMES OF PLANNED EVENTS BUT SPONTANEOUS EVENTS. KEEPING OUR CONNECTIONS WITH THEM IS IMPORTANT TO RESPONDING TO INCIDENTS, AS WELL AS HAVING AVENUES OR WAYS TO DRAW ON THEIR RESOURCES WE MAY NOT HAVE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT WAY TO DO THAT. IT WILL BE SET IN PLACE. WE CAN USE IT AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE IF IT IS APPROVED. [1:46:58] Elliott Payne: IS THERE A WAY TO -- AH -- AH, LIMIT THE DETAIL SUCH THAT THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO PROVISIONS ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION OR LIMITS ACCORDING TO SOME OF OUR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT PROVISIONS? [1:47:05] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YES. WITH THE AGREEMENT, THEY'll WORK AT OUR DIRECTION. HOWEVER, THEY ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE TO FOLLOW THEIR OWN POLICIES, STATE POLICIES, AND SPECIFICALLY THE STATE PATROL STATUTE THAT GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO OPERATE. AND NONE OF THAT ALLOWS FOR THEM TO WORK IN AN IMMIGRATION CAPACITY. [1:47:23] Elliott Payne: OUR STATE PATROL HAS LIMITATIONS SIMILAR TO THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE? [1:47:28] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MAY I ADD, SIR: THEY DO -- WITH THEIR CHAPTER 299 POWERS THAT THE STATE GIVES THEM, THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE LISTED POWERS. SO THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT POWERS ARE STRICTLY RELATED TO WORKING SECURITY AT THE CAPITOL, WORKING HIGHWAYS, WORKING AS PEACE OFFICERS IN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED. [1:47:53] Elliott Payne: AH, I'M STILL CONFUSED. ARE THEY ABLE TO SUPPORT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT? LIKE, I CAN'T TELL BASED ON THAT ANSWER. [1:48:01] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, NOT BY THEIR STATUTE. AND NOT BY THEIR DIRECTION FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD FROM THEIR LIEUTENANT COLONEL. [1:48:09] Elliott Payne: OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. [1:48:15] Jamal Osman: AH, I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION I HAD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE AGENCY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY ARE HELPING US DO THE WORK AND ON THE STREETS KEEPING US FEELING SAFE, THAT THE ENFORCEMENT OF ASSISTING I.C.E. IS NOT HAPPENING. IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND BASED ON THE ANSWERS I'M HEARING IS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT OR ACCEPT THIS AGREEMENT, THEY WILL NOT ASSIST FEDERAL AGENCIES ENFORCING I.C.E. AM I CORRECT? [1:49:16] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT ALLOWS THEM TO WORK AT OUR DIRECTION. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASSIST IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WHAT THEY DO OUTSIDE OF THIS AGREEMENT, MPD OR THE CITY HAS NO SAY IN. [1:49:36] Jamal Osman: AND ON THEIR SIDE OF WHAT THEY DO, YOU WERE TOLD THAT IT'S AGAINST THEIR POLICY TO ASSIST FEDERAL AGENCIES. [1:49:43] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER YES. [1:49:45] Jamal Osman: PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [1:49:47] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:49:51] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ALSO READING THE RCA CORRECTLY. SO THE STATE PATROL COULD -- BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THIS IS AT THE DISCRETION OF MPD -- IT'S NOTED ON THE RCA THEY COULD SUPPORT WITH SPECIALTY ASSIGNMENTS SUCH AS DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE. CAN YOU CLARIFY, IS DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE THE SAME AS CROWD CONTROL? [1:50:15] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT COULD BE. DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE COULD BE EVERYTHING FROM SOMETHING THAT WE SAW ON SATURDAY WITH THE "NO KINGS" PROTEST TO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WITH THE JULY 4th FIREWORKS AS A LARGE CROWD, SO THINK OF IT MORE AS LARGE CROWD MANAGEMENT SITUATIONS. [1:50:36] Robin Wonsley: HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM CROWD CONTROL? [1:50:39] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTIONS OF THE CROWD. SO IT CAN BE DELINEATED BY THE ACTIONS OF THE CROWD AND WHAT IS OCCURRING. [1:50:49] Robin Wonsley: OKAY. I THINK WE HAD A CONVERSATION ON THIS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND THIS ELEMENT, JUST BASED OFF OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 3. WHILE THERE'S STILL THIS PREMISE AROUND THERE WAS A FEDERAL-LED OPERATION WHERE I.C.E. WAS ALSO PART OF THAT OPERATION, THEY WERE THERE ON SITE, MPD ASSISTED WITH CROWD CONTROL AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD FLUCTUATE BASED ON THE RESPONSE OF THE CROWD. THAT FACTORS UNDER CROWD CONTROL, AND IN MY OPINION, THIS MEANS IT COULD BE USED OR ACTIVATED IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES IF THERE WAS ANOTHER FEDERAL OPERATION WHERE IT WAS DETERMINED YOU NEED EITHER DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE OR CROWD CONTROL. I MEAN, THAT'S THE PIECE THAT'S CONCERNING, AND THIS WAS, AGAIN, FLAGGED IN COMMITTEE FOR ME. I THINK ALSO AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE SEPARATION ORDINANCE AND HOW MPD'S COMPLIANCE FACTORS INTO THAT MAKES ME A LITTLE WEARY OF SUPPORTING MEASURES LIKE THIS, BUT I DID WANT TO NAME IT ON THE BASIS OF IT'S EXPLICITLY NAMING DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE AND CROWD CONTROL FACTORS INTO THAT. AND I KNOW THAT WAS A TRAUMATIC PIECE AND SOMETHING THAT, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, CONTRIBUTED TO FEELINGS OF ESCALATION IN THOSE OPERATIONS. SO JUST BEING COGNIZANT OF THAT. IF THERE WAS A MORE LIMITED SCOPE IN THIS RCA AROUND HOW THIS COULD BE ACTIVATED, I THINK I COULD GET ON BOARD, BUT I WILL NAME THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITH JUST WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WEEK AND WHY I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM AS OF NOW. [1:52:33] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY RESPOND, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE AND POINT OUT THIS IS A MUTUAL AGREEMENT, MEANING THAT BOTH SIDES -- WE WOULD NEED TO REQUEST IT AND THEY WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO COME AND HELP. [1:52:41] Robin Wonsley: IN THAT CASE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION OF, LIKE, THE SUCCESS RATES OR RATES OF APPROVAL BETWEEN THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS YEAR TO DATE WHERE THERE'S BEEN A DENIAL OF THAT MUTUAL AID REQUEST OF SUPPORT? [1:52:59] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT QUITE FOLLOWING THE QUESTION. [1:53:05] Robin Wonsley: SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PARTY, SO THE STATE PATROL, WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE MPD'S REQUEST TO SUPPORT THEM UNDER THE BASIS OF THIS CONTRACT, THE TERMS HERE. I'M SAYING, HAS THERE BEEN A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE OR HOW OFTEN HAVE THEY DENIED THOSE REQUESTS FROM MPD? [1:53:23] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS A NEW AGREEMENT, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW THAT. [1:53:31] Robin Wonsley: WE'VE BEEN -- I FEEL LIKE THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN APPROVED BEFORE. HAVE WE NOT HAD A MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE PATROL PRIOR TO THIS CONTRACT? [1:53:42] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE HAVE BUT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO HIGH VISIBILITY PATROL IN TWO AREAS OF THE CITY ALONG LAKE STREET AND ALONG BROADWAY. [1:53:48] Robin Wonsley: OKAY, SO THE NEW COMPONENTS TO THIS CONTRACT -- WHICH PROVISIONS? BECAUSE IS IT BOTH THE LARGE-SCALE SECURITY AND THE DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE? ARE THOSE NOW JUST THE TWO NEW PIECES? [1:53:59] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS IS A MUCH WIDER AGREEMENT IN WHAT SERVICES ARE BEING ASKED FOR, SO TO YOUR POINT, THOSE ARE COMPONENTS OF A LARGER AGREEMENT. IN ADDITION, THE SPECIFIC HIGH VISIBILITY PATROLS IN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS OF NORTH MINNEAPOLIS AND ALONG LAKE STREET AND SOUTH MINNEAPOLIS HAVE BEEN REMOVED. [1:54:16] Robin Wonsley: CAN YOU SHARE, IS IT AROUND SAFETY? HAVE RATES INDICATED SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF LESS VISIBILITY NEEDED IN THOSE AREAS? I'M EXPRESSING WHAT SHIFTED TO -- AGAIN, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S AN EXPANDED SCOPE IN THE RCA. IT JUST MENTIONS LARGE-SCALE EVENTS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT QUALIFIES AS AND WHY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE YOU MENTIONED THE "NO KINGS" PROTEST OR ARE BUYBACKS SOMETHING IN MY MIND THAT GOES TO SUPPORT THE LARGE-SCALE EVENTS. AND NOW THE DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE. WHAT LED TO THE DECISION TO MOVE TO THOSE TWO PARTICULAR THINGS AS OPPOSED TO INCREASED VISIBILITY? I KNOW YOU ALL TALK ABOUT STAFFING CHALLENGES AND KEEPING CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING INCREASED VIOLENCE SAFE AND THE STRUGGLE WITH THE LACK OF STAFFING AMONG MPD'S RANKS. [1:55:16] Deputy Chief KINGSBURY (MPD): COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS WAS A MUTUAL DISCUSSION BETWEEN US AND THOSE ITEMS WERE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY WERE ALSO HAVING AN INABILITY TO STAFF THOSE, AND AS OUR STAFFING HAS SLIGHTLY IMPROVED, WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE JOBS ON LIKE THE DIRECTED PATROL ON OUR OWN. [1:55:32] Robin Wonsley: OKAY. THANK YOU. [1:55:34] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [1:55:36] Linea Palmisano: COLLEAGUES, A REMINDER THAT THIS IS ROUTINE AND THIS IS NOT AS COMPLICATED AS WE'RE MAKING IT SOUND. DEPUTY CHIEF KINGSBURY COULD CERTAINLY EXPLAIN PATROL COMPLEXITY TO US, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US. WE HAVE A SEPARATION ORDINANCE. EVEN IF THE STATE PATROL DOES NOT, WE WOULD NOT PARTNER WITH THEM ON ANY IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT INITIATIVE. AND WHEN IT'S AID LIKE THIS, WE CANNOT FORCE ANY JURISDICTION TO DO ANYTHING, BUT THEY ONLY COME AND HELP US IN WAYS WE ASK THEM TO. SO WE, THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, WE DO GET TO LIMIT OUR OWN SCOPE OF WORK IN ANY PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS. AND IN THIS CITY RIGHT NOW WITH THE SIZE OF OUR CURRENT FORCE, I THINK WE NEED PARTNERSHIPS, SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. [1:56:34] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [1:56:36] Jeremiah Ellison: YEAH, I JUST WAS GOING TO HOP IN QUEUE TO BASICALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. IT'S NO SURPRISE TO FOLKS THAT I DON'T LOVE AT A PHILOSOPHICAL LEVEL THE WAY THAT CITIES DO PUBLIC SAFETY. I THINK THAT WE COULD REALLY EXPAND THEM AND GET CREATIVE, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DO IT THIS WAY, THIS IS ONE OF OUR TOOLS AND UNLESS WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TO REPLACE THIS TOOL, I DON'T SEE HOW WE REMOVE THIS TOOL. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF MY LOGIC. I'D BE OPEN TO SORT OF A SOLUTION FOR HOW WE IMPROVE THIS, BUT I PROBABLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT JUST VOTING IT DOWN. SO THAT'S... I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT. BUT I THINK ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE VALID. AND I THINK THAT WE WOULD ALL BE PRETTY MORTIFIED IF WE ENTERED INTO THIS AGREEMENT AND THEN SAW THAT MONEY THAT WE PUT TOWARDS MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS WAS GOING TOWARDS THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE. SO I THINK I HOPE YOU CAN KIND OF RESPECT THAT THAT IS THE LEVEL OF ANXIETY YOU ARE GETTING FROM THE DAIS AND UNDERSTAND THAT. IF THERE'S WAYS TO REASSURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I'M ALL EARS ON THAT AND WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OTHERWISE, I DON'T SEE AN OPTION FOR US TO FLATLY DENY THIS TOOL. [1:57:56] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [1:57:58] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. ACTUALLY, IN LIGHT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON JUST SUGGESTED, I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE ABILITY WITH TIME AND I THINK COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, YOU'VE DONE THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES YOURSELF IN WORKING WITH STAFF TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO REACH KIND OF THAT HAPPY MEDIUM. I WILL NAME, OF COURSE, IF THERE'S A PATHWAY TO PUT EVEN MORE OF A LIMITED SCOPE ON THE CROWD CONTROL OR DEMONSTRATION RESPONSE, I THINK THAT IS THE HIGH-END PIECE OF JUST CONCERN, TOO. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING IN WHICH WE CAN HOLD OVER ANOTHER CYCLE TO GIVE SPACE TO TALK OR CONNECT WITH LEADERSHIP AROUND THAT TO KIND OF GET AT WHAT YOU'RE NAMING TOO, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [1:58:39] Elliott Payne: ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO HOLD THIS FOR A CYCLE? IS THERE A SECOND? NOT SEEING ANY SUPPORT FOR THAT. SO NO. LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE UP. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [1:59:15] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (NO), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (NO), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (NO), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (NO), PRESIDENT PAYNE (NAY). [1:59:43] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE SEVEN AYES AND FIVE NAYS. [1:59:47] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THAT IS ADOPTED. THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE THREE NOTICES TODAY. COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO GIVES INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION CODE TO ALIGN CITY AND STATE LAW IN REGARD TO SICK AND SAFE TIME, AND UPDATING ITS ENFORCEMENT PROVISION. THE SECOND AND THIRD NOTICES ARE FROM COUNCILMEMBERS CHAVEZ, CHUGHTAI AND CHOWDHURY, WHO GIVE NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF TWO ORDINANCES AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVIL RIGHTS CODES, ADDING REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND PROTECTIONS FOR DISCRIMINATION BASED ON PERCEIVED CITIZENSHIP OR IMMIGRATION STATUS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE NOTICES? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [2:00:36] Linea Palmisano: MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE OF WORDS ON THE SICK AND SAFE AND THRIVING ORDINANCE AND HOW IT DEVELOPED. THIS IS ABOUT ALIGNING OUR SICK AND SAFE LAW WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS PASSED IN THE STATE. WE WERE THE FIRST TO DO IT AND NOW IT IS STATE LAW. OUR ORDINANCE WAS FIRST ENACTED IN EARLY 2017, SO I AM ONE OF THE LAST AUTHORS STANDING. OUR ORDINANCE PRE-DATES STATE LAW. THEY COPIED AND PASTED LARGE SECTIONS OF OUR ORDINANCE, BUT THEY'VE MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS OVER THE YEARS WHERE WE HAVE NOT. THIS AMENDMENT REALLY INTENDS TO SIMPLIFY AND UNIFY OUR ORDINANCE WITH STATE LAW, SO IT'S EASIER FOR EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES TO UNDERSTAND AND NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW TWO SEPARATE SETS OF REGULATIONS AND FILTER THEM TOGETHER. THE STATE LAW IS BROADER THAN OUR ORDINANCE AND IT VERY SLIGHTLY FAVORS THE EMPLOYEE IN THINGS LIKE THE DEFINITION OF A FAMILY MEMBER, FOR EXAMPLE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THESE KINDS OF CHANGES IN MINNEAPOLIS. SO ANY CHANGES DO NOT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE THESE REGULATIONS, AND I'M OPEN TO HAVING MORE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT THIS AS IT MOVES FORWARD. THANK YOU. [2:01:53] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, THOSE NOTICES ARE HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TODAY. FIRST PURSUANT TO NOTICE, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN MOVES TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS CODE FOR FIRST READING AND REFERRAL TO THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE AMENDING ADVISORY BOARD COMPOSITIONS IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS. SECOND IS PURSUANT TO NOTICE, COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON AND VETAW MOVE TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS CODE FOR FIRST READING AND REFERRAL TO THE CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, ELIMINATING THE SUNSET PROVISION FOR THE WEST BROADWAY IMPROVEMENT SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE INTRODUCTIONS? [2:02:40] Linea Palmisano: SO MOVED. [2:02:41] Katie Cashman: SECOND. [2:02:42] Elliott Payne: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:02:47] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [2:03:04] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [2:03:06] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THESE MATTERS ARE REFERRED TO THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS RESOLUTIONS. WE HAVE THREE HONORARY RESOLUTIONS ON THE AGENDA INCLUDING THE LATE ADDITION OF DJIBOUTI INDEPENDENCE DAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS? [2:03:28] Aurin Chowdhury: SO MOVED. [2:03:30] Katie Cashman: SECOND. [2:03:31] Elliott Payne: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:03:35] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [2:03:52] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [2:03:54] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE ADOPTED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WE ADDED THIS ITEM, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL ACTION 2024-A-0845, A STAFF DIRECTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST NOVEMBER RELATED TO MUNICIPAL REVENUE. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT. CAN I GET A SECOND? [2:04:16] Robin Wonsley: SECOND. [2:04:17] Elliott Payne: IS THERE DISCUSSION? I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [2:04:26] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [2:04:44] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [2:04:46] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND IS ADOPTED. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS A REQUEST FOR CLOSED SESSION. BEFORE I RECOGNIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE RECESS FOR CLOSED SESSION, I'll ASK IF THERE'S ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER ELLISON. [2:05:03] Jeremiah Ellison: JUST, SORRY, WAS NOT PUTTING MYSELF IN QUEUE FAST ENOUGH. JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING MELISSA AND MARK AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A VIGIL TONIGHT AT THE CAPITOL STEPS FROM 8:00 TO 9:30, SO I'll BE GOING. I'M SURE A LOT OF US ARE PLANNING ON GOING, BUT JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HONORING THEIR LIVES AND THEIR SERVICE. SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. AND I HOPE FOLKS TURN OUT AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF LOVE FOR MARK AND MELISSA ALL ACROSS THE STATE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. [2:05:46] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [2:05:48] Linea Palmisano: THANK YOU. I WANTED TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THAT LAST VOTE ABOUT THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT. FOR YEARS AFTER THE 4th OF JULY, COUNCILMEMBERS DECRY US BEING UNDERPREPARED FOR THE 4th OF JULY, AND THIS WILL REALLY HELP THAT. I'M AFRAID A DELAY WOULD HAVE -- WELL, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE BY THEN, SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA SUPPORT FOR OUR COMING UP FOURTH OF JULY PLANS TO KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE. THANK YOU. [2:06:21] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER JENKINS. [2:06:23] Andrea Jenkins: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AND JUST A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. AS WE KNOW, TOMORROW IS JUNETEENTH, AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EVENTS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ONE SPECIFIC EVENT IS HAPPENING AT MINNEHAHA AND LAKE STREET, WHICH IS A LARGE-SCALE EVENT, I BELIEVE, HOSTED BY THE COLISEUM BUILDING AND OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO NOTE THAT NEXT WEEKEND IS THE PRIDE CELEBRATION AT LORING PARK. I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A CONTINGENCY MARCHING IN THAT PARADE, AND JUST HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY COMES OUT AND SUPPORTS THIS EVENT AND REMAINS SAFE AND HAS A GREAT TIME CELEBRATING PRIDE. THERE WAS A REALLY TROUBLING SUPREME COURT DECISION TODAY THAT UPHELD THE TENNESSEE LAW TO WITHHOLD HEALTH CARE FOR TRANS AND GENDER NONCONFORMING PEOPLE. VERY DEVASTATING TO THIS COMMUNITY, TO MY COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE FOLKS CAN SHOW UP AND SHOW SUPPORT NEXT WEEKEND. THANK YOU, SIR. [2:08:00] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. [2:08:02] Katie Cashman: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I KNOW THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO NICOLLET MALL AT THE CENTER OF OUR CITY ARE OF INTEREST TO A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBERS, SO I WANTED TO INVITE FOLKS TO THE OPENING OF THE WE ARE WATER EXHIBIT AT 8th AND NICOLLET THIS FRIDAY AT 3:00 P.M., WHICH IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT EXHIBIT RUNNING IN WHAT USED TO BE A VACANT STOREFRONT, PANERA BREAD AT 8th AND NICOLLET. IT WILL BE RUNNING ALL SUMMER. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD REASON TO VISIT NICOLLET MALL AS WELL AS THE NOONS ON NICOLLET, WHICH STARTS TODAY, WHICH WILL BE RUNNING THREE TIMES THIS SUMMER FROM 11:30 TO 1:30 IN BETWEEN 7th AND 8th ON NICOLLET. [2:08:49] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [2:08:51] Aurin Chowdhury: COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, SO I JUST APOLOGIZE. I WANTED TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR ME TO CHANGE MY VOTE ON THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT WAS FOR SUPPORT FOR THE FOURTH OF JULY. AND I KNOW THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OUR CITY'S CURRENT SEPARATION ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE EXPLORING AND TAKING UP, BUT I KNOW IT'S OUT OF ORDER, BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK NOW RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE CLOSED SESSION. [2:09:24] Elliott Payne: SO RATHER THAN MAKING A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, WITHOUT OBJECTION, WOULD THE CLERK BE ABLE TO RECORD THAT? [2:09:30] Casey Carl (City Clerk): MR. PRESIDENT, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, WE CAN CHANGE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY'S VOTE, WHICH WAS A NAY TO AN AYE. THAT MAKES THE OUTCOME 8-4. [2:09:40] Elliott Payne: ALL RIGHT. NO OBJECTIONS? NOT SEEING ANY. GOT THAT DOCUMENTED. THANK YOU. [2:09:46] Elliott Payne: COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN? [2:09:48] Jamal Osman: THANK YOU. I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SOMALI WEEK IS HAPPENING STARTING ON JUNE 28 ON LAKE STREET. THE LARGEST SOMALI EVENT IN THE WORLD, I BELIEVE. PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD -- AUSTRALIA, EUROPE, AFRICA -- AND THEY JUST REALLY HAVE A GREAT TIME. IT'S NOT JUST THE GATHERING ON LAKE STREET, BUT ALSO SPORTS TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BASKETBALL, SOCCER. THERE'S ALSO THEATER, CULTURE, SO CHECK IT OUT. IT'S A GREAT EVENT IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IS HONORED TO HAVE THIS EVENT ON LAKE STREET. THANK YOU. [2:10:32] Elliott Payne: SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE, WITH THAT, WE'VE COMPLETED ALL ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA EXCEPT ITEM NUMBER 2.1 ON THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AGENDA, WHICH IS RELATED TO OUR CLOSED SESSION. SO WE WILL NOW CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR A CLOSED SESSION, WHICH IS TO RECEIVE A BRIEFING ON THE LITIGATION MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA. BEFORE I MOVE TO CLOSE THE MEETING, I'll ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE THE LEGAL BASIS FOR THE REQUESTED CLOSED SESSION. [2:11:05] Kristyn Anderson (City Attorney): THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CASE OF STATE OF MINNESOTA BY REBECCA LUCERO, COMMISSIONER OF THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS (MDHR) VERSUS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. THE LAWYERS WISH TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING TO THE COUNCIL ON THE LITIGATION MATTER. ACCORDINGLY, PURSUANT TO MINNESOTA STATUTES SECTION 13D.05, SUBDIVISION 3(B), THE COUNCIL MAY UPON A PROPER MOTION CLOSE THE MEETING FOR PURPOSES OF ATTORNEY-CLIENT COMMUNICATION AS PERMITTED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THE COUNCIL SHOULD WEIGH THE RIGHT OF THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT IT IS DOING AGAINST THE NEED OF THE CITY TO PRESERVE THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE DISCUSSION WITH ITS ATTORNEYS. [2:11:34] Elliott Payne: THANK YOU, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY. I MOVE TO CLOSE OUR PUBLIC MEETING AS AUTHORIZED UNDER THE OPEN MEETING LAW 13D.05 FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECEIVING A BRIEFING ON THE LITIGATION MATTER OF STATE OF MINNESOTA BY REBECCA LUCERO, COMMISSIONER OF THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS VERSUS CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. MAY I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? [2:12:05] Robin Wonsley: SECOND. [2:12:06] Elliott Payne: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:12:08] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI IS ABSENT. PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [2:12:30] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 11 AYES. [2:12:32] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES. FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC, I WILL NOTE THAT THE BROADCAST OF THE MEETING WILL CONTINUE AND COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE IN PUBLIC AFTER WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE CLOSED SESSION. LET'S MEET IN THE ROOM AT 12:10 TO GIVE PEOPLE A SHORT BREAK. BUT LET'S TRY TO POWER THROUGH. [2:12:40] [THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL IS IN CLOSED SESSION] [4:18:20] Elliott Payne: THE TIME IS NOW 1:59. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION FOLLOWING OUR CLOSED SESSION. I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO PROVE THE PRESENCE OF A QUORUM. [4:18:32] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (PRESENT), PALMISANO (PRESENT), CHOWDHURY (PRESENT), CASHMAN (PRESENT), OSMAN (PRESENT), RAINVILLE (PRESENT), CHAVEZ (PRESENT), VETAW (PRESENT), KOSKI IS ABSENT. WONSLEY (PRESENT), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (PRESENT), PRESIDENT PAYNE (PRESENT). [4:19:02] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 MEMBERS PRESENT. [4:19:04] Elliott Payne: LET THE RECORD REFLECT WE HAVE A QUORUM. COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE ITEM 2.1 FROM OUR COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AGENDA. DOES THAT NEED TO BE MOTIONED ONCE AGAIN? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2.1? [4:19:18] Robin Wonsley: I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND ASK FOR A SECOND. [4:19:22] Aisha Chughtai: SECOND. [4:19:23] Elliott Payne: ITEM 2.1 HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [4:19:35] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (NAY), PALMISANO (NO), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (NAY), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (NO), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [4:20:00] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE EIGHT AYES AND FOUR NAYS. [4:20:02] Elliott Payne: THAT ITEM CARRIES. AND I WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [4:20:07] Robin Wonsley: THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I ACTUALLY ALSO -- AND CLERK CARL HELPED ME WITH THIS AND I KNOW YOU ARE SUPPORTING THIS AS AUTHOR OF THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS NUMBER ONE -- I WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER THIS ITEM TO POSTPONE FOR ONE CYCLE TO RECONCILE CHANGES MADE BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SENT OVER AT 9:30 LAST NIGHT, AND ALSO THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE HAS BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. [4:20:34] Elliott Payne: I'll SECOND THAT. [4:20:36] Elliott Payne: SO THE MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE STAFF DIRECTION. [4:20:43] Robin Wonsley: CORRECT. [4:20:44] Elliott Payne: THIS IS A STAFF DIRECTION -- AND APOLOGIES, COLLEAGUES, THIS WAS MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY LAST NIGHT -- TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF A PREVIOUS STAFF DIRECTION AROUND EXPLORING MUNICIPAL REVENUE SOURCES. THIS CAME UP DURING OUR DISCUSSION IN THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION. WE HAVE A NEW FULL-TIME STAFFER WHO WOULD LIKE TO WORK ALONGSIDE OUR POLICY AND RESEARCH GROUP TO HELP EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THIS, AND WE WERE REVISING THIS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO MORE FULLY CONNECT WITH THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF THE STAFF DIRECTION. AND I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO HONOR HER INTENTIONS ON THAT ORIGINAL STAFF DIRECTION AS WE OPEN UP THE SCOPE OF THIS. SO SHE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME JUST TO RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY AND WHERE SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER, I'll ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [4:21:46] Casey Carl (City Clerk): JENKINS (AYE), PALMISANO (AYE), CHOWDHURY (AYE), CASHMAN (AYE), OSMAN (AYE), RAINVILLE (AYE), CHAVEZ (AYE), VETAW (AYE), ELLISON (AYE), WONSLEY (AYE), VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI (AYE), PRESIDENT PAYNE (AYE). [4:22:08] Casey Carl (City Clerk): THERE ARE 12 AYES. [4:22:10] Elliott Payne: THAT CARRIES AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [4:22:14] Robin Wonsley: MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR ONE CYCLE. [4:22:16] Aisha Chughtai: SECOND. [4:22:17] Elliott Payne: THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. AND THAT COMPLETES ALL BUSINESS FOR TODAY. AND WITH NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, AND WITHOUT OBJECTION -- THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. [GAVEL]