CITY OF TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD HAVE -- JUST A MOMENT. BEFORE I PASS IT ON TO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON FOR THE INVOCATION, INTRODUCE KEITH -- PASTOR KEITH BUTLER IS HERE TODAY. WE ACTUALLY MET RECENTLY, SIR. GOOD TO SEE YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, I'LL PASS IT ON TO YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. KEITH BUTLER, HE'S BEEN IN THE MINISTRY FOR OVER 20 YEARS WITH 17 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS PASTOR AT A BAPTIST CHURCH LOCATED IN MIAMI. HE IS NOW STARTING HIS 15th JOURNEY AT NEW SHY LOW MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH. PLEASE WELCOME PASTOR KEITH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PASTOR BUTLER, GO AHEAD, SIR. >> THANK YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ALL OF US TO WAKE UP IN OUR BEDS, DRY STREETS KNOWING THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO WERE NOT AS FORTUNATE AS US. GOD, I KNOW THAT HAD THIS STORM BEEN EVEN A MILE TO ONE SIDE, THIS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT I'M CONVINCED NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE THAT YOU ARE A HUGE FAN OF TAMPA, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE SUCH A HUGE FAN OF YOU. WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS ALL OF OUR CITY MEMBERS, COUNCIL, MEN AND WOMEN. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR. WE THANK YOU FOR HER PROFESSIONALISM AND HER INTELLECT. GOD, MOST IMPORTANTLY, I PRAY FOR THOSE WHO MAKE ALL OF THEM LOOK GOOD, INCLUDING OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND CHIEF OF FIRE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AND THAT'S THE STAFF WORKING FOR THE MAYOR OF MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. I KNOW WHO DO ALL THE WORK AND I KNOW WHO GETS ALL OF THE GLORY. SO I PRAY FOR THE STAFF FAMILY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS ALL OF THEM AS THEY WORK DILIGENTLY TO MAKE ALL OF THE LEADERS LOOK GOOD. FINALLY, GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW ALL OF US TO LEAVE HERE BETTER THAN WE CAME, ALLOW US TO AGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE. AND GOD, LET US REMEMBER THAT YOUR WORDS SAID THAT THE GREATEST AMONG US ARE THOSE THAT SERVE. SO WE PRAY THAT WE WILL SERVE, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO SAY REAL FAST, THANK YOU, SIR, I'VE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE OF THE JEWISH FACE THAT WE'RE MEETING ON ROSH HASHANAH. I WANT TO PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE. WE ALL LOOKED AT THE CALENDAR AND WE MISSED IT. HUGE APOLOGIES. SOME FOLKS WERE UPSET BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PARTICIPATE. EVERY YEAR WE USUALLY AVOID MAJOR HOLIDAYS AND WE JUST MISSED IT THIS YEAR. I PERSONALLY WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD TAKE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. WE'LL WORK HARD NOT TO DO IT AGAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. COUNCIL MEMBER -- SORRY, IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT. >> VIERA? MIRANDA? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO TODAY'S MEETING. I WILL BE BRIEF WITH REGARD TO THE RULES OF DECORUM, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE COUNCIL IN THE CONDUCT OF CITY BUSINESS TODAY BY AVOIDING ANY DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR OR NOISES OR COMMENTS, PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE PUBLIC OR THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY STAFF. PLEASE NOTE THAT IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE SPEAKER WAIVER CARDS -- EXCUSE ME, SPEAKER CARDS OUT FRONT THAT WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT. AND PLACE IN THE BOX. ONE CARD PER SPEAKER. CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK. A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES. PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY BECAUSE NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED. IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING, USE THE SIGN-IN SHEET INSTEAD. AGAIN, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE SEE CITY STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 19, 2024 MEETING? MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID. TO THOSE THAT CELEBRATE, INCLUDING MY WIFE AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA. I'M GOING TO BEGIN AFTER WE DO THIS, I'M GOING TO BEGIN WITH AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE. CHIEF BENNETT IS HERE. THIS IS REGARDING THE STORM. THIS WE'LL DO RIGHT AFTER THE WE APPROVE THE AGENDA. I'LL ASK THE CHIEF HOW MUCH TIME HE NEEDS AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 1, THEE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO A FUTURE DATE. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS GOING TO HAVE THAT DATE. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT WHEN HE ARRIVES. HE WILL BE ARRIVING MOMENTARILY. HE'S IN TRAFFIC. ITEM NUMBER 14, I HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. CARL BRODY THAT WE WITHDRAW THIS ITEM. CAN I GET A MOTION TO THAT IF HE CAN GET? MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 41, WE HAVE A MEMO FROM CHIEF BENNETT REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE PULLED FROM CONSENT AND BE HEARD UNDER STAFF REPORTS. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ITEM NUMBER 70, I ASK THAT THIS BE MOVED UP AND BE HEARD AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 11:45 A.M. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS, ADMINISTRATION UPDATE. WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT. WE'LL HAVE THAT AFTER WE APPROVE THE AGENDA. ITEMS NUMBER 76, WE HAVE -- YES. >> [INAUDIBLE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 76. $114 MILLION ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT? >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY HAVE A PowerPoint. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 76. HOW ABOUT WITH 77, THERE IS A MEMO TO CONTINUE THIS TO NOVEMBER 21st. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ITEM NUMBER 77 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 21st, 2024. ITEM NUMBER 78. >>BILL CARLSON: THE STAFF HAS ASKED US TO CONTINUE. I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE IT TO -- THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A DATE. WHAT DATE? >> NOVEMBER 3. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOVEMBER 3 UNDER STAFF REPORTS. >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY. NOVEMBER 7. >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 7. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 78 MOTION TO CONTINUE 78 TO NOVEMBER 7 UNDER STAFF REPORTS. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. YES SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, ANYBODY FROM HARBOUR ISLAND WATCHING THE MEETING AND INTERESTED IN THE HARBOUR ISLAND STREETLIGHT ISSUE, THIS THE ISSUE. STAFF HAS ASKED US TO MOVE IT. SO NOW MOVING TO NOVEMBER 7. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 79, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 5th. COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. THIS IS MY MOTION. I ACTUALLY ASKED FOR THEM TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT ON OCTOBER 17 I BELIEVE. YES. OCTOBER 17, A WRITTEN REPORT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ITEM 79 TO OCTOBER 17. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- AS A WRITTEN REPORT, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 80, WE HAVE -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I TALKED TO MS. FEELEY. SHE WOULD MUCH PREFER THAT WE -- SINCE THIS IS MONTHLY THAT WE JUST MOVE IT TO THE NEXT MONTH. SHE DID SAY THAT THE KICKOFF WAS AWESOME AND SHE JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THAT, BUT SHE'S -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A DATE TO CONTINUE? >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S EVERY MONTH SO IT GOES TO JUST THE NEXT. WE'LL CANCEL THIS ONE, I SUPPOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THIS IS REGARDING A VERBAL REPORT. MR. VASKE WILL BE PRESENT FOR 81, SO THAT IS A YES. ITEM NUMBER 82, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. I SPOKE TO THEM ON THE STATUS OF GRAND CATHEDRAL, AND, NO, THEY HAVE NOT FIXED ANY OF THE VIOLATIONS, BUT THEY ARE IN PROGRESS. I HAVE A LONGER MOTION THAT WILL COME FOR THIS, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HAD TIME THIS WEEK. WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON RECOVERY. SO THAT WILL COME LATER. SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TABLE THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TABLE 82 BUT A MOTION UNDER NEW BUSINESS. >>LYNN HURTAK: NEXT WEEK. YEAH, RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 82 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM NUMBER 83, REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO DECEMBER 19. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND THEN THE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS, ARE WE GOOD TO RECEIVE AND FILE 84, 85, 86, AND 87? CAN WE GET A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE 84, 85, 86? MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AND A REQUEST TO CONTINUE 87 TO NOVEMBER 7, 2024 BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IN REGARDS TO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, WE'LL STILL HAVE IT, BUT THIS WILL BE WITH CFO DENNIS ROGERO. HE'S NOT AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. WE'LL HAVE MORE LATER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE STORM NOW. >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT NUMBER 1? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE IT HERE. NUMBER 1, WE HAVE A REQUEST BY TPD IN CONJUNCTION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HE'S AWARE OF THIS, TO CONTINUE ITEM 1 TO NOVEMBER 7. CAN WE GET A MOTION? MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS HERE. ALL RIGHT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM? MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IS THERE STEVE SIMON HERE? HE WAS RUNNING LATE IN TRAFFIC. WE'LL HOLD ITEM NUMBER 2. I'M SORRY. WE'LL GO TO AN ADMINISTRATION UPDATE REGARDING THE STORM NOW. CHIEF BENNETT, YOU'RE HERE. I SEE TPD IS HERE. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING. JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC. AS CHIEF TRIPP AND I BELIEVE OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER COMES UP, I JUST WANT TO SAY FROM EXPERIENCE, 39 YEARS AGO WITH SEVEN MONTHS IN POLICE UNIFORM, I EVACUATED OVERNIGHT PALMETTO BEACH AREA FOR HURRICANE ELENA, NEVER CAME ONTO THE STATE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN NEARLY MY 40 YEARS OF SERVICE OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE AND THEN STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON OUR CURRENT STATE OF PREPAREDNESS. OF COURSE, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY. CHIEF TRIPP. >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I JUST WANT TO NOT ONLY THANK THE COMMUNITY BUT ALL THE LEADERS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SHO HAVE BEEN WORKING PRIOR TO THE STORM COMING, WORKING OVERNIGHT DURING THE STORM AND THE ONES WHO ARE CONTINUING TO WORK. FOR ALL OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE AND ALL DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO MAKE SURE OUR COMMUNITY IS PUT BACK TOGETHER AND KNOW THAT WE LOVE THEM AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ASSIST THEM. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO LET THE EMERGENCY MANAGER DIRECTOR GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT TOOK PLACE. JUST TO PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE AT EASE WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THE CONVERSATION, THE CITY OF TAMPA, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS UNDER THE CHAPTER OF THE 252 WHICH WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE RULES WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. WHEN THEY DECLARE SOMETHING, THAT'S WHEN WE PUT THINGS INTO ORDER. SO A LOT OF THE NEEDS AND THE REQUESTS THAT WE PUT IN OVER THE LAST WEEK HAS BEEN COMING THROUGH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS THE STATE. SO JUST WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND, OF COURSE, HANGING OUT WITH US OVER AT THE EOC AND MAKING SURE THE MEN AND WOMEN AS WELL AS THE WHOLE EXECUTIVE STAFF, THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE STAFF WHO MADE SURE THAT OUR EMPLOYEES WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT SAID, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN TO GIVE US INFORMATION ABOUT THE STORM AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO PREPARE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> JONATHAN, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL, PUBLIC, ADMINISTRATION. I'M HERE TODAY TO GIVE AN UPDATE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED WITH HURRICANE HELENA OVER THE LAST WEEK, WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS AND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTINUING TO DO TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THEIR RECOVERY. OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAS BEEN THE WORST STORM SINCE 1921 FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE TARPON SPRINGS HURRICANE THAT HIT US. STORM SURGE OVER 7 FEET, UNPRECEDENTED SINCE THAT TIME IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. CONTINUING FEDERAL, STATE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BUT WE'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S BEEN TRANSPIRING. TIMELINE OF EVENTS. AS CHIEF TRIPP STATED, CHAPTER 2252, EMERGENCY POWERS EMBEDDED WITHIN 67 COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. LOCAL STATES OF EMERGENCY, EVACUATION ORDERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT DO FALL ON HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. PLAY OUT THAT TIMELINE. PROTECTIVE ACTIONS WE TOOK BEFORE THE STORM OCCURRED, RESPONSE ACTIONS WE TOOK THAT NIGHT INTO THE MORNING TO SAVE LIVES AND PROPERTY AND THEN OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS THE ONGOING RECOVERY EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY CURRENTLY. NEXT UP, I'LL GIVE US THE TIMELINE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED AT THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND THEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. ON SEPTEMBER 21st, WE IN OUR SHOP AS OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, WE'RE MONITORING TROPICAL SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WHEN JUNE 1st, NOVEMBER 30th HAPPENS, WE'RE MONITORING THE SYSTEM. WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE. WE STARTED GETTING REPORTS OF THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 21st. SEPTEMBER 24, TROPICAL STORM HELENA DID DEVELOP. THEN ON SEPTEMBER 24th, WE HAD ALSO TROPICAL STORM WATCHES. SEPTEMBER 25, STORM SURGE WARNINGS WERE ISSUED BY OUR NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE EXPECTING FIVE TO EIGHT FEET OF STORM SURGE. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DID ISSUE THAT LEVEL A EVACUATION ORDER AS WE WERE ALL IN A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY AT THAT TIME. SEPTEMBER 26 IT HAD DEVELOPED INTO A HURRICANE AND IT WAS EXPECTED TO MOVE NORTH AND RAPIDLY INTENSIFY IN THE GULF OF MEXICO. AND IT WAS EXPECTED TO STAY ABOUT 140 MILES WEST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AS A LARGE, MAJOR HURRICANE. IT DID MAKE LANDFALL AT APPROXIMATELY 11:10 P.M. NEAR PERRY FLORIDA IN THE BIG BEND AREA. SEPTEMBER 27, SIGNIFICANT SURGE IMPACTS BEGAN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT NIGHT INTO THE EARLY MORNING. LARGE-SCALE RESCUE RESPONSE EFFORTS WERE THROUGHOUT THAT NIGHT AND MORNING TO SAVE LIVES AND PROTECT PROPERTY. BEFORE THE STORM OCCURS, WE IMPLEMENT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS AT THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WELL AS OUR DEPARTMENT HURRICANE PLANS. MULTIPLE WEATHER BRIEFINGS THAT I KNOW YOU ALL ARE INCLUDED ON WERE DISTRIBUTED AS WELL AS OUR SITUATION REPORTS ON THOSE PROTECTIVE ACTIONS. THOSE DEPARTMENT PROTECTIVE ACTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE, INCLUDING THEIR CHECKLIST TO PROTECT OUR ASSETS AS WELL AS OTHER RESPONSE EFFORTS BEFORE THE STORM. WE ACTIVATED KNOW YOUR ROLE FOR EMERGENCY POSITIONS FOR OUR EMERGENCY PERSONNEL TO WORK SUCH AS STAFFING, DEBRIS, AND OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS THAT. THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, HURRICANE OPERATIONAL PLANS WERE IMPLEMENTED AS WELL AS SANDBAGS BEFORE THE STORM. WE DISTRIBUTED 47,000 SANDBAGS BEFORE THE STORM TO THOSE RESIDENTS. AND WHEN THAT EVACUATION ORDER WAS MADE BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES DOOR-TO-DOOR ANNOUNCEMENTS TO ENSURE THOSE RESIDENTS ARE NOTIFIED AS WELL AS OUR ALERT TAMPA NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND PUBLIC MESSAGING TO ENSURE OUR RESIDENTS KNOW TO EVACUATE THOSE LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONES. WE ALSO MOBILIZED OUR EMERGENCY STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT. WE HAD TO STAFF MIDDLETON AS OUR EVACUATION SHELTER FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS WELL AS ERWIN TECH FOR A SPECIAL NEEDS SHELTER. AGAIN THAT EVACUATION LEVEL A ORDER WAS MANDATED BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. IN THOSE SHELTERS, WE HAD JUST OVER 1500 SHELTER CLIENTS THAT RODE OUT THE STORM THERE AS WELL AS 54 PETS. WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED OUR EMERGENCY FUEL PLAN, FEEDING PLAN, ACTIVATED THE CITIZEN INFORMATION CENTER, AND DID A ROBUST AMOUNT OF PUBLIC MESSAGING THROUGHOUT -- BEFORE THE STORM AND THROUGHOUT IT. THEN GOING INTO THURSDAY NIGHT, FRIDAY EARLY MORNING, AS THE SURGE BEGAN TO RISE IN MANY AREAS IN OUR COMMUNITY, HIGH-WATER RESCUES AND THE RESPONSE TOOK PLACE WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, FLOOD STREET RESPONSE AND BARRICADES TO BLOCK OFF THOSE AREAS AS WELL AS GETTING INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE EVACUATION -- THE SURGE AREA THAT DID NOT EVACUATE DURING THAT TIME. WE ALSO HAD OUR EMERGENCY DRONE DEPLOYMENT TO GET INITIAL ASSESSMENTS AT DAYLIGHT HOURS AND THEN DOWNED POWER LINE MITIGATION AND RESTORATION OF OUR PUSH TEAMS GOING THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE DAMAGES THAT OCCURRED AND QUICKLY IDENTIFY DOWNED POWER LINES TO TECO WHO IS EMBEDDED WITH US AT THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER SO THEY CAN SEND OUT THEIR TEAMS TO MITIGATE THAT. WE COMPLETED OUR PRELIMINARY DAMAGE ASSESSMENT IN TWO DAYS. IT WAS A LOT OF GREAT WORK DURING THE SEASON ON PREPAREDNESS FOR THIS, AND IT ALL CAME TOGETHER WITH GREAT TECHNOLOGY PACKAGES AND TRAINING WE DID BACK IN MAY. BUT OVERALL, WE HAD 854 AFFECTED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, OVER 1500 MINOR. OVER 1900 MAJOR AND 34 DESTROYED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH OUR ASSESSMENT. WE ALSO HAD NUMEROUS PUBLIC BUILDINGS PARKS INFRASTRUCTURE, ALSO DAMAGED FROM THIS STORM. AGAIN, UNPRECEDENTED STORM SURGE, OVER SEVEN FEET IN SOME AREAS THAT CAUSED A LOT OF THIS DAMAGE. WE HAVE TO ROLL THESE NUMBERS UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS PART OF STATUTE 252 AND WE SENT THOSE ESTIMATES IN YESTERDAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ESTIMATE OF $77 MILLION IN PUBLIC DAMAGES CURRENTLY, WHICH WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO GROW. AND THEN ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DAMAGES THAT WERE DOCUMENTED, WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER $500 MILLION IN PRIVATE DAMAGE FROM THIS STORM. ONGOING RECOVERY THAT'S CONTINUING ON. MAJOR DEBRIS CLEANUP IS UNDERGOING IN THE HARDEST HIT AREAS. DAVIS ISLANDS, PALMETTO BEACH, SOUTH OF GANDY, WESTSHORE AREA. OUR SOLID WASTE TEAMS ARE CONTINUING THROUGH THAT DEBRIS AND GO EGG THAT COLLECTION SET UP AT OUR CERTIFIED FEMA DEBRIS SITES. VERY LARGE AREAS OF DEBRIS PUT TO THOSE AREAS. CONTINUING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ASSESSMENT AND THE REPAIRS ARE ONGOING FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS IMPACTED. AND FOR RELIEF EFFORTS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITH THE STATE IMMEDIATELY POST-STORM TO GET THESE ASSETS INTO THE COMMUNITY QUICKLY. WE HAVE COMFORT STATIONS SET UP AT DE SOTO PARK AND MARJORIE PARK AT PALMETTO ISLANDS. SOUTH OF GANDY ABLE TO STAND UP AT THE GANDY CIVIC CENTER. ALSO A COMFORT STATION TO GET THE SUPPLIES CLOSER TO THE COMMUNITY DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA. ALSO IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM, WE HAD MASS FEEDING OPERATIONS GOING ON WITH OUR PARTNERS AT SALVATION ARMY AND AMERICAN RED CROSS, AT DAVIS ISLANDS, PALMETTO BEACH, PORT TAMPA AND SOUTH OF GANDY IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM. AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, WE HAVE BEEN DECLARED FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS DISASTER ASSISTANCE FOR HOMEOWNERS TO GET THEM SOME FUNDING IMMEDIATELY AS WELL AS PUBLIC ASSISTANCE TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR THOSE DAMAGES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEN ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION DID DECLARE DISASTER ASSISTANCE AS WELL FOR THOSE LOW INTEREST BRIDGE LOANS TO GET THEM BACK UP AND RUNNING AS WELL. JUST WANTED TO END WITH OBVIOUSLY AN INCREDIBLE RESPONSE FROM ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT NIGHT. EVERYONE IN THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER TO SUPPORT. I JUST WANT TO ECHO, WE WERE LARGELY IMPACTED HERE, BUT THIS IS A REGION-WIDE IMPACT. PINELLAS COUNTY, PASCO COUNTY, WE'RE IN CLOSE CONTACT THROUGHOUT THE REGION ON THE MAJOR IMPACTS THERE AS WELL AS THE ENTIRE SOUTHEAST OF THE UNITED STATES GOING UP ALL THE SO MANY OF THE FEDERAL AND STATE ASSETS HAVE BEEN STRETCHED DURING THIS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN CLOSE COMMUNICATIONS THROUGHOUT EVERY DAY WITH STATE, COUNTY, AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS TO GET AS MUCH SUPPORT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND WE WILL BE THERE NONSTOP. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO GET WHATEVER IS NEEDED OUT TO THE PUBLIC. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS JOHN STATED, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AS EFFECTIVE AS IT HAS BEEN WITHOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND EVERYONE ASSISTING. SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. WE HAD ADDITIONAL STAFF ON DUTY THAT DAY. WE ACTUALLY DEPLOYED OUR URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TEAM WHICH IS TASK FORCE THREE THAT WAS DEPLOYED ALONG WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT WENT OVER AND HELPED OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTY, WHICH WAS PINELLAS COUNTY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL OPEN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF WE COULD SET THE FIVE-MINUTE TIMER. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I WAS IMPACTED, COMPARED TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN TAMPA BAY TO A MINOR DEGREE BUT STILL IMPACTED BY THE STORM SIGNIFICANTLY. I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE YEAR AND A HALF THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN MOST IMPRESSED BY IS THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE STAFF, THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. DAY IN AND DAY OUT THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I CONSISTENTLY SEE THE STAFF OF THE CITY STEP UP TO THE PLATE WHEN WE'VE MET CHALLENGES. I'M GETTING CHOKED UP BECAUSE OF ALL THIS. HOW IMPRESSED I WAS AFTER THE STORM TO SEE SO MANY BOOTS ON THE GROUND. EVERYBODY RISING TO THE OCCASION. PEOPLE DOING DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS AND THEIR NORMAL JOB FUNCTIONS, STORM ASSESSMENTS, FROM THE VERY NEXT MORNING COMING OUT, SEEING THEM ALL OVER THE CITY. I THINK FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS TO OUR ATU EMPLOYEES, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE ONE TODAY, TO EVERYBODY THAT'S IN WASTEWATER AND FRESHWATER. ACROSS EVERY BUSINESS LINE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. EVERYBODY REALLY STOOD UP AND MET THE CHALLENGE. I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE LIGHT OF THIS HURRICANE AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPORT. I WANT TO SAY ALSO KUDOS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA SANITATION CREW. I READ A POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA FROM A CITIZEN THAT JUST REALLY TOUCHED ME. HE SAID KUDOS TO THE -- KUDOS TO CITY OF TAMPA SANITATION CREWS. THESE HARD WORKERS HAVE CLEARED SO MANY TONS OF DEBRIS, MUCH OF IT BY HAND OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS. HOPE, INSPIRING WATCHING OUR HOMES AND STREETS INUNDATED WITH SLUDGE WATER, FURNISHINGS, CABINETS, DRYWALL AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS. JUST WANTED TO CALL THEM WARRIORS THAT JUMPED IN TO CLEAN UP SO QUICKLY IN LIGHT OF EVERYTHING EVEN POSSIBLY THINGS HAPPENING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIVES. THANK YOU TO ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. THE SETUPS AT DE SOTO, PALMETTO BEACH, JUST EVERYTHING THAT WE DO REALLY IS THE STAFF AND I APPRECIATE THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS TO THE STAFF. YOU SEEM TO BE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK. I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE THE AREAS THAT ARE HARDEST HIT ABSOLUTELY -- AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE I RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE HIT THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT. I LIVE UP NEAR THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND VERY CLOSE FRIENDS LOST QUITE A BIT. FOLKS ALONG THE RIVER AS WELL, WHATEVER WE CAN DO FOR FOLKS UP IN THE NORTHERN PART, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER OVERFLOWING TOO. NOT THAT YOU ALL AREN'T WORKING UP THERE, BUT JUST THEY WOULD LIKE A LITTLE -- WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO FOR THE FOLKS WHO WERE IMPACTED IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF LOW-LYING AREAS -- AS THE STORM SURGE WENT, ONCE IT HIT THE DAM, IT HAD NOWHERE TO GO. IT CAN'T KEEP GOING. THEY HAD SERIOUS INUNDATION. I WANT TO APPRECIATE STAFF, BUT I REALLY ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. FOLKS CAME OUT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS, AND IT HAS BEEN JUST OVERWHELMING THE OFFERS, THE HELP THAT WE'VE SEEN. AND I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THE VERY SAME THING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY FOR COMING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING YOU AS WELL AS THE STAFF. I KNOW ALSO THAT SOME OF IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT BECAUS PEOPLE ARE TRAUMATIZED AND SO SOME OF THAT TRAUMA CAN COME ON TO STAFF. I KNOW THAT. BUT I WANT TO APPRECIATE HOW WELL YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LOOK PAST THAT AND JUST ABSOLUTELY HELP EVERY SINGLE PERSON. I WANT TO SAY TO STAFF AS WELL, JUST TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES TOO. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN KEEP GOING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON OURSELVES AS WELL. I, AGAIN, JUST WANT TO REITERATE HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. THERE WILL BE MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO, HOW ELSE WE CAN IMPROVE. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW IN THE THICK OF THINGS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, WHAT YOU HEARD BEFORE, I'LL REITERATE THE SAME THING. YOU HAVE THE ATU THAT KEEPS TAMPA RUNNING. YOU GUYS THAT KEEP TAMPA SAFE. YOU HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON LIKE YOURSELVES. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IN MY OPINION ANYWAY, IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY STORMS FORM IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AS THIS YEAR. AND THEY START OUT AS A VERY LOW PRESSURE THING AND BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE. THE ANSWER IS WHY? ONLY ONE RESOLUTION AS TO WHY. WE ARE TAKING NOT GOOD CARE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. AND WE ARE CAUSING OUR OWN DEMISE. THE WORLD. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA. WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALL DONE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND ALL THE DIVISIONS OF THE CITY, A FANTASTIC JOB IN MAKING SURE EVERYBODY WAS SAFE AND ALSO IN THE CLEANUP AFTERWARDS. HOWEVER, JUST THINK HOW LUCKY WE WERE THAT OUR NAME WAS NOT ASHEVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA. YOU SEE WHAT IT CAN DO TO DESTROY A COMPLETE CITY. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT KEEP US GOING AND WORKING HARD. BUT UNLESS WE CHANGE AND START BUILDING DIFFERENTLY, AND I'M NOT COMPARING OURSELVES TO ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, BUT WHEN YOU GO TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY EVEN IN THE ISLANDS, THE OUTSKIRTS GET HAMMERED AND DON'T COME BACK AT ALL. THE HOUSES ARE BUILT WITH WHAT? CEMENT AND REBAR. THEY DO NOT LEAVE THE GROUND. THEY DO NOT BURN VERY EASILY. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TO CHANGE. I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE OVERNIGHT, BUT THIS WHOLE COUNTRY HAS GOT TO START LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT IN THE FUTURE YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN AND YOUR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF EARTH ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. WE HAVE NOT DONE A GOOD JOB. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THE GOOD JOB BUT IN GENERAL, WE AMERICANS TAKE LIFE AND KEEP ON GOING. WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS. IT'S HARD TO FIND WORDS WHEN WE GO OUT AND WE SPEAK TO PEOPLE'S WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED. YOU KNOW THAT BETTER THAN I DO BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ON THE GROUND A BILLION TIMES MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. WHAT WORDS DO YOU SAY TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS JUST LOST EVERYTHING? WHEN YOU GO IN LIFE, YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU'RE RAISING YOUR FAMILY, DOING YOUR JOB, PAYING YOUR TAXES, ALL SORTS OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES. AND YOU GO -- IT'S HARD TO EVEN FATHOM. I ECHO THE WORDS THAT EVERYONE SAID, ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, SANITATION POLICE FIRE EVERYBODY. JUST AMAZING. OUR JOB IS TO SUPPORT YOU ALL AND THE WORK YOU DO TO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS AS MUCH AS WE CAN. AGAIN, THIS IS A STORM OF THE CENTURY. IT REALLY IS. AND TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE ON THE GROUND AND YOU SEE WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH, YOU TALK TO -- AND YOU TALK TO INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE THERE TO HELP PEOPLE THINK ABOUT OUR TEACHERS, OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL AND PRIVATE SCHOOLTEACHERS WHO ARE COMING BACK TO WORK. SOME OF THEM HAVE LOST EVERYTHING. THEY ARE DEALING WITH CLASSROOMS, 20, 30 KIDS, MANY OF WHOSE FAMILIES LOST EVERYTHING. FAMILIES WHO TOOK BIG HITS BEFORE THIS AND LITERALLY WENT THROUGH A HURRICANE WHERE THEY LOST SO MUCH. THINK ABOUT OUR CHURCHES. WE TALK TO CHURCHES, CHRIST OF KING, FRIENDS AT SOUTH TAMPA FELLOWSHIP, WHO ARE DEALING ON THE GROUND WITH SOME OF THE WORST THINGS. I THINK OF A NICE GENTLEMAN THAT A LOT OF US WENT OUT TO MEET WITH OUR OFFICES, TOM REYNOLDS, OVER AT PALMETTO BEACH WHO GUIDED US THROUGH THAT COMMUNITY AND TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO JUST LOST EVERY MATERIAL POSSESSION THEY HAVE AND YOU TRY TO GIVE THEM WORDS OF COMFORT, WHERE DO YOU GO FROM THAT? AND TO HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO YOU AND GO, LOOK, I'M NOT USED TO ASKING FOR HELP. THIS IS WHAT I NEED. IT'S STUFF THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE, I THINK, YEARS FOR PEOPLE TO PROCESS THROUGH. AND SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID IS VERY RIGHT, WHICH IS TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE AS A CITY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS NOT NORMAL COURSE AND SCOPE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. SO, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW FUTURE COUNCILS, FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS, ET CETERA, CAN BUILD ON THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. THE WORK THAT WE'RE SALUTING EVERYBODY FOR. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. WHAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY IN THE FUTURE AND ALSO TO TALK ABOUT ALL AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED. YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE AT EVERY SINGLE AREA THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FRIENDS IN THE MEDIA AND OTHER PLACES TALK ABOUT ALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED. I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AT PALMETTO BEACH, DAVIS ISLANDS, WESTSHORE, ALL OVER, AND IT'S -- AGAIN, IT'S DEVASTATING. YOU TRY TO HAVE WORDS FOR PEOPLE. YOU TRY TO PRAY FOR THEM. YOU TRY TO THINK ABOUT THEM. YOU TRY TO GO OUT THERE AND ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AND WORK. AND TO SEE THE INSTITUTIONS ON THE GROUND, GROUPS LIKE FEEDING TAMPA BAY, OPERATION BARBEQUE RELIEF, DIFFERENT CHURCHES, MOSQUES, SYNAGOGUES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP WHO ARE -- JUST YESTERDAY I WAS WITH A CHURCH AND THE PASTORS, THEY LOST TONS OVER AT DAVIS ISLAND AND THEY ARE OUT THERE HELPING PEOPLE. BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS AND THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE. AGAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE WORDS, BUT YOU TRY TO HAVE WORDS. AGAIN THANK YOU GUYS, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA EVERYWHERE EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER TO HELP FOLKS OUT. SO JUST FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU GUYS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WANT TO ECHO THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF. I KNOW FOLKS DIDN'T GET MUCH SLEEP IF ANY AND WORKED WITHOUT SHOWERS AND OTHER THINGS WHILE THEIR OWN HOMES AND FAMILIES WERE BEING AFFECTED. THANKS TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL THE OTHER FOLKS WHO WORKED SO HARD. I THINK WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN NEVER REALLY SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH. THANK YOU ALSO TO THE NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT IS THAT PEOPLE VOLUNTEER FOR THINGS TO HELP EACH OTHER. AND WE SAW THAT ON THAT MASSIVE SCALE HERE. TAMPA IN THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS OR SO NEVER FACED ANY RECOVERY EFFORT LIKE THIS. WE SEE PICTURES AND VIDEOS OF OTHER CITIES THAT LIKE NEW ORLEANS THAT GET HIT AND IT'S SURREAL DRIVING THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA. SOME RICH NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME POOR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THE DEVASTATION IS UNBELIEVABLE. AND TO SEE ONE STREET THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM ANOTHER BY THE LUCK OF WHERE THE WATER FLOWED. I WAS ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES THAT IT DIDN'T FLOW MY WAY. WE TRIED TO HELP OTHER FOLKS AS WELL. AS MY COLLEAGUES SAID, THERE IS A LOT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY NEXT TIME. ONE THING MY CONSTITUENTS ASKED IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A FIRE TRUCK ON DAVIS ISLAND. WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP THAT. I STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THE ONE HOUSE THAT HAD THE TESLA IN IT CAUGHT ON FIRE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT REGULATIONS LIKE -- HATE TO THROW THIS OUT -- BUT DO WE MANDATE IF WE THINK THERE IS A STORM SURGE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE THEIR BATTERY-POWERED DEVICES OUT OF THE GROUND LEVEL? WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EVEN IF PEOPLE EVACUATED, IF YOU GET INUNDATED WITH SALTWATER AND BUILDINGS CATCH ON FIRE BECAUSE OF A BATTERY OPERATED BICYCLE OR MOTORCYCLE OR CAR, IN DAVIS ISLANDS, ONE VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSE THAT BURNED DOWN BUT HAD A LOT OF EXPENSIVE HOUSES AROUND IT. THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY WEALTHY FAMILIES IN SOUTH TAMPA, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY THAT WAS FORMERLY LONGSHOREMEN IN PORT TAMPA. MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES HAVE HAD HOUSES FOR MULTIPL GENERATIONS. BECAUSE THEY OWN THE HOUSES, THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE MANY OF THEM. BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF THE HOUSING STOCK. THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS SOMEONE WILL TEAR DOWN ONE OF THE OLD HOUSES AND BUILD A NEW McMANSION. THE MISSING MIDDLE IS IMPORTANT, DISPLACING SENIORS AND OTHERS WHO WILL BE DISPLACED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE ON THAT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION. WHATEVER WE THINK OF HOUSING AND THE SHORTAGE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE MISSING MIDDLE THAT WE HAVE. THANK YOU TO STAFF, ESPECIALLY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN PORT TAMPA AND BAY SIDE WEST AND OTHERS WHO REALLY WANTED TO HAVE A COMFORT STATION NEAR BY. STAFF SPENT HALF A DAY OR MORE YESTERDAY AND STARTED AT 7:00 THIS MORNING GOING TO THE GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION, PROVIDING SERVICES. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE'S TRASH PICKUP ON A MASSIVE SCALE. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE FAMILY'S HOUSE GOODS MIGHT FILL UP A WHOLE TRUCK AND THEN THE TRUCK HAS TO GO AND COME BACK. LARRY WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM WERE FANTASTIC. THERE WERE NEIGHBORHOODS, LOWER INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT FELT LIKE THEY WERE NEGLECTED. LARRY DEPLOYED PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY AND WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE PICTURES AND TELL PEOPLE THEY ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ARE WORKING WITH YOU TOO. WE HAVE EQUITY IN THE TRASH PICKUP. HAD A BIG DIFFERENCE IN BOOSTING THE MORALE OF PEOPLE. ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED BEFORE AFTER HURRICANES, WE HAVE WE NEVER HAD A RECOVERY EFFORT LIKE THIS, BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE ROLE OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR FOR CALLING ME LAST NIGHT. HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH HER ABOUT IT AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND ANDREA. AN EXAMPLE, 1-800 CALL CENTER THAT HAS PRESUMABLY A SCRIPT THAT THEY CAN TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, HOW TO GET THEM RESOURCES. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SCRIPT WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF. WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE TRAINED IN IT. I'VE WORKED ON A LOT OF MAJOR, MAJOR RECOVERY EFFORTS IN OTHER CITIES, AND THERE SHOULD BE A STANDARD TALKING POINTS SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. FAQ. IF WE'RE DEPLOYED ANSWERING QUESTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE SHOULDN'T JUST GIVE THEM AN 800 NUMBER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS TO THE EXTENT WE CAN. ALL OF US HAVE BEEN OUT THERE SEEING THAT. WE NEED TO WORK ON THE RECOVERY APPARATUS. WE HAVE A WELL-OILED APPARATUS TO TALK ABOUT A HURRICANE COMING AND TALK ABOUT CLEANING UP, BUT WHAT WE NEED IS A RECOVERY APPARATUS. WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, RAISING THE LEVEL OF HOMES, MAYBE PUTTING UP BARRIERS, OTHER THINGS. AND I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ABOUT THAT. LAST TWO THINGS, ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT I WAS HELPING, SHE HAS A HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD HOME, AND SHE HAS A CHILD WITH DISABILITIES. SHE HAD A VERY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT FOR HER CHILD, ALL OF IT WAS WIPED OUT. THE CHILD CAN'T STAY ON THE GROUND FLOOR BECAUSE THE AREA IS DAMAGED. SHE HAS TO PHYSICALLY CARRY THE CHILD UP TO THE TOP FLOOR. I WANT TO THANK RAQUEL FOR HELPING HER YESTERDAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON ALL THE ISSUES AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS SINCE 1921, AS YOU MENTIONED. AND IT'S BEEN OVER A CENTURY. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OVER THE YEARS, WHEN IRMA CAME THROUGH IN 2017, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE STORM BECAUSE OF THE MAGNITUDE. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTEN SO MANY CLOSE CALLS, IT'S BAYSHORE GETS WATER. BUT NOT LIKE THIS. WEST TAMPA AT THE RIVER, HOUSES ARE RUINED. DAVIS ISLANDS, PORT TAMPA. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. IT'S A WAR ZONE IN CERTAIN AREAS. I LEFT THE HOUSE WHEN THE SUN CAME UP FRIDAY MORNING TO GO OUT INTO THE AREAS THAT I COULD. DAVIS ISLAND WASN'T OPEN YET. BAYSHORE STILL HAD WATER. GOING DOWN SOUTH WESTSHORE TO GANDY WE ENDED UP GOING THERE LATER IN THE DAY. DAVIS ISLAND WAS IN THE EVENING. MY AIDE AND I WERE IN PALMETTO BEACH YESTERDAY. GENTLEMAN, TOM REYNOLDS WHO WAS MENTIONED, HIS FAMILY BEEN PALMETTO BEACH OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. TWO MONTHS AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY HISTORY GOING BACK TO THE FOUNDING OF YBOR CITY. WE HAD CALLS YESTERDAY FROM SOUTH OF GANDY. MULTIPLE PEOPLE OVER THE DAYS. CALLED THE MAYOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO TO DO SOMETHING SOUTH OF GANDY. MENTIONED THEY WERE OPENING UP AS OF 7 A.M. AT THE GANDY CIVIC CENTER. TALKED TO CHIEF OF STAFF. CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL IN KEEPING US UPDATED. CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION, NONSTOP. I TRIED TO DO WHAT I COULD VIA SOCIAL MEDIA TO SHARE INFORMATION. IF IT WAS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION LIKE LOWE'S SOUTH DALE MABRY, THEY WERE HELPING. AMERICAN RED CROSS, NUMBERS TO CALL, SOLID WASTE PICKUP, WHAT THE CITY WAS DOING. TRYING TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BEAT MADAM CHAIR. WHEN YOU GET A CATEGORY 3, 4 HURRICANE AND YOU GET STORM SURGE, IT'S TERRIFYING. I SAW ONE VIDEO FROM A FRIEND OF OURS, AND IT WAS THE WATER HAS REACHED THE FRONT OF MY PROPERTY. THE WATER HAS REACHED THE FRONT OF MY STEPS. THE WATER IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR. THE LAST PHOTO WAS HER TAKING A PHOTO FROM THE STAIRCASE AND THE WHOLE BOTTOM FLOOR IS FLOODED UP TO FOUR FEET. THAT WAS JUST ONE HOUSE. AND THERE ARE SO MANY. THE HOUSE IN DAVIS ISLAND THAT WAS BURNED DOWN. WE WENT BY THERE. THE MERRY MAKERS CLUB IN DAVIS ISLAND, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE A HUNDRED YEARS. WHEN I WAS THERE, THEY SAID WE'VE BEEN PUMPING FOR THREE HOURS. I HAVE VIDEOS. THE WHOLE GROUND IS SATURATED. AND THEN THE SADDEST THING IS EVERYBODY'S BELONGINGS ON THE FRONT CURB. EITHER MATTRESSES, SOFAS, CHILDREN'S TOYS, AND PEOPLE LOOKING AND FEELING DEFEATED. PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE WITHOUT ELECTRICITY. THIS IS FRIDAY. AT DAYBREAK. RICH PEOPLE, POOR PEOPLE, MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE. I'VE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE AFFECTED. AND THIS WAS MINOR. THIS WAS A MINOR STORM SURGE. IT WAS AWFUL, BUT IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE. AGAIN, WHEN WE WERE HIT IN 1921, DAVIS ISLANDS DIDN'T EXIST LIKE IT DID TODAY. IT WASN'T DEVELOPED. PALMETTO BEACH WAS THERE. PORT TAMPA CITY WAS THERE. THE HOUSES ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER IN WEST TAMPA, THEY DIDN'T EXIST YET. NOW THERE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT. NOT TO GET INTO OTHER THINGS, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES TO THIS COMMUNITY. WE SEE HOW BUSY OUR CASES ARE WITH REZONING AND SO MANY THINGS. WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL AND VERY CAREFUL. A WORD OF CAUTION TO DEVELOPERS. WE ARE ALONG THE WATER. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED. IT'S CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE. I SAW A NUMBER OF HALF A BILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGE. AGAIN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY IN DEVELOPING, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. BECAUSE LOOK AT THE DAMAGE. AGAIN EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY HAS BEEN AFFECTED. IT'S NOT JUST THE RICH, THE POOR, IT'S YOU CAN'T -- WHEN THE STORM SURGE COMES IN AND THERE'S NO LIGHT AND THERE'S NO POWER AND YOU JUST HEAR THE RUSHING OF THE WATER, IT'S TERRIFYING. THE PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO, YOU FEEL HELPLESS. WHEN DOES THE WATER STOP AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. I KNOW YOU'RE EXHAUSTED BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING NONSTOP AROUND THE CLOCK. YOU AND THE TEAM AND ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS UPDATE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE ATU PRESENTATION AND THEN TO ITEM NUMBER 3, MR. STEVE SIMON IS HERE. GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR. BEFORE I START, I WANT TO ALSO MENTION AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE JEWISH HOLIDAY, ALSO A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN, OCTOBER 7, WE'LL HAVE COME A YEAR ANNIVERSARY SINCE THE ATTACKS ON ISRAEL AND HOW DEEPLY I KNOW SO MANY FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY WERE IMPACTED WITH THEIR LOVED ONES AND THAT OVER A HUNDRED HOSTAGES ARE STILL BEING HELD IN GAZA AND HOW MUCH I FEEL FOR THOSE FOLKS. I THINK IT IS A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THIS PERIOD OF THE HOLY DAYS THAT ARE COMING UP FOR OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY. THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MY GOOD FRIEND, STEVE SIMON, PRESIDENT OF ATU. THE MAN WHO REPRESENTS THE FOLKS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE KEPT THE CITY GOING AND HELPED WITH THE RECOVERY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. DURING THIS TIME OF EMERGENCY AND NATURAL DISASTERS, THANK YOU TO YOU AND ALL THE FOLKS THAT YOU REPRESENT FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. WHAT AN IMPORTANT JOB THE FOLKS YOU WORK WITH DO FOR US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HE'S GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR EMPLOYEE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING TODAY NICOLE. I'LL HAND IT OFF TO STEVEN TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. IF I COULD TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR SENDING OUT AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY NOTIFYING ATU MEMBERS THAT IF THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY HELENE, THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO ME IMMEDIATELY FOR ASSISTANCE. SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- I LOST THAT THOUGHT. I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING, CITY OF TAMPA. I'M STEVE SIMON, THE PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION LOCAL 1464 AND WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING IN ORDER TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MS. NICOLE WILLIAMS. [ APPLAUSE ] MS. WILLIAMS IS THE ONLY PERSON -- LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN -- MS. WILLIAMS IS THE ONLY PERSON IN THE CITY WHO CARRIES THE TITLE OF SUBROGATION SPECIALIST. BUT SHE DOES THE JOB OF MANY. YOU MAY ASK, WHAT DOES THE TITLE MEAN? WELL, WHEN AN INJURY OCCURS TO A CITY STAFF PERSON OR WHEN CITY PROPERTY IS DAMAGED BY A THIRD PARTY OR DESTROYED THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, MS. WILLIAMS WORKS TO RECOVER ANY MONEY OWED TO THE CITY AND ANY MONEY SPENT DUE TO THE DAMAGE OR INJURY. SHE INVESTIGATES THE INCIDENT, TO MAKE SURE NO FUNDS ARE SPENT WHERE THEY SHOULD NOT BE SPENT. OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, SHE HAS SINGLE-HANDEDLY RECLAIMED NEARLY $4 MILLION ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. AN UNSUNG HERO. IT WOULD BE A BIT HIGHER, BUT 2020 WAS NOT AS ACTIVE. THE FUNDS ARE PLACED BACK INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND AND USED AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. SHE IS OUR HERO, AND SHE DOES IT WITH A SMILE AND QUIET WISDOM. SHE IS A MOM AND A GRAND MOM. SHE HAS SERVED THE CITY AND CITIZENS OF TAMPA FOR 19 YEARS. AND WE THANK YOU, NICOLE, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN KEEPING THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING. AND ON BEHALF OF ATU LOCAL 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS AWARD. [ APPLAUSE ] I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO READ A PART OF A LETTER FROM THE MAYOR. CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING SELECTED AS THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION'S EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, STRONG WORK ETHICS, AND FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN ALL ASPECTS IN YOUR POSITION AS A SUBROGATION SPECIALIST. FOR NEARLY A DECADE, YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY TO NAVIGATE COMPLEX CASES BY RESEARCHING ANALYZING AND COORDINATING RECOVERY EFFORTS TO ENSURE EFFECTIVE COST MANAGEMENT OF SUBROGATION CLAIMS. YOU HAVE RECLAIMED NEARLY $4 MILLION OVER THE PAST 5 YEARS, AND THESE FUNDS ARE PLACED BACK INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND AND USED AS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. YOU ARE AN ASSET TO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND YOU SET A SHINING EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. IT IS EMPLOYEES LIKE YOU, NICOLE, THAT MAKE ME PROUD TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND SERVICE. SINCERELY, MAYOR JANE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ATU FOR ALLOWING THESE EMPLOYEES TO BE RECOGNIZED. COUNCIL FOR INDULGING US AND GIVING US SOME TIME IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR CELEBRATING WITH US. NICOLE IS -- I'LL LET VALERIE SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY, BUT QUICKLY -- NICOLE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU CAN BUILD A CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEE, THIS IS THE PLAYBOOK IN WHICH YOU SHOULD BUILD IT FROM. SHE COMES TO WORK EVERY DAY. SHE COMES -- SHE COMES TO SERVE THE CITIZENS BY RECOUPING THESE DOLLARS, YOU HEAR WHAT COMES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THESE ARE FIRE TRUCKS THAT WE CAN PURCHASE, POLICE CARS WE CAN PURCHASE. THESE ARE PARKS WE CAN IMPROVE. SHE DOES THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY ONE PERSON JUST IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR ALONE COLLECTED OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. WHEN VALERIE CAME INTO THE CITY, WHEN SHE AND I STARTED WORKING TOGETHER, WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS AN UNDERUTILIZED PERSON. THROUGH VALERIE'S TENACIOUS INPUT, WE ELEVATED NICOLE'S POSITION. IT'S REALLY TAKEN OFF FROM THERE. BUT NICOLE WOULD DO THIS POSITION REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TITLE WAS. I ONLY SEE NICOLE IN THE HALL WHEN WE PASS EACH OTHER ON THE WAY TO THE LADY'S ROOM BECAUSE HER HEAD IS DOWN AND WORKING ALL THE TIME. SHE SERVES THE CITY WELL AND WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE HER. I THANK EVERYOE FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE IN HUMAN RESOURCES BECAUSE WE TEND TO NOT WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED. WE LIKE TO BE BEHIND THE SCENES BUT WE DO SERVE THOSE OUT IN THE FRONT LINES AND THE WAY WE DO IT IS REALLY, REALLY MONUMENTAL. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. VALERIE, RISK MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. WHEN NICOLE WAS NOTIFIED THAT SHE HAD BEEN SELECTED, SHE WALKED IN MY OFFICE AND SAID, WHAT DID YOU DO? [ LAUGHTER ] AND I JUST TOLD HER I AM SO PROUD OF HER. EVERY SINGLE DAY SHE WALKS INTO OUR OFFICE AND SHE GOES TO HER DESK AND SHE DEFINITELY KEEPS HER HEAD DOWN. SHE IS A MOM AND A GRAND MOM AND YOU SEE HER SISTER, HER TWO CHILDREN AND HER GRANDSON BEHIND US. SHE WILL COME IN EVERY NOW AND THEN AND BRING A VIDEO OF HER GRANDSON. I SAW THE ONE WHERE HE KEPT LOCKING THE DOOR ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET OUT OF THE CAR. BUT SHE LOVES THEM. SHE LOVES WHAT SHE DOES. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THIS UNSUNG HERO WAS BROUGHT UP FRONT JUST FOR A LITTLE WHILE SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT SHE DOES EVERY DAY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS. NICOLE, WE'RE PROUD OF YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> NICOLE, I'LL HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES FOR THE NEXT -- I DON'T KNOW -- I THINK I NEED SOMEBODY OF YOUR TENACITY TO REPRESENT ME TO RECOVER SOME MONEY FOR MYSELF. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE YOU TO COME UP AND BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE ON BEHALF OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION PRESENTED TO ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, NICOLE WILLIAMS. CONGRATULATIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> I'LL LET YOU SPEAK AFTER THESE FOLKS. WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS WELL. >> MARY DILLON. I REPRESENT THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS. ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ, I WANT TO PRESENT YOU WITH TWO TICKETS TO BROADWAY SHOW COMING UP. PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, MS. WILLIAMS. GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING, MR. SIMON. GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY OF TAMPA. WE WANT TO PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT CARD TO ENJOY AT ANY OF OUR RESTAURANTS, THE COLOMBIA IN YBOR, ULELE, COLOMBIA CAFE NOW HAS GOODIE GOODIE RECIPES. PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING. JILL WITECKI ON BEHALF OF TAMPA THEATRE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US CELEBRATE YOU TODAY, AND WE HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL COME SEE US AT THE THEATER WITH AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> OSBORNE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH OF YOUR SERVICE. WE WANTED TO OFFER YOU, TO YOU AND A GUEST TICKETS TO A PERFORMANCE FOR THIS SEASON. AND YOU CAN CHOOSE. AND WE JUST THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MS. NICOLE, I'M HERE WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS. ON BEHALF OF MR. FORD. BRIAN FORD, GLAZER FAMILY, ENTIRE BUCS ORGANIZATION, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. WE PRESENT WITH YOU A FOOTBALL. [ APPLAUSE ] >> YOU DON'T GET TO HOLD ON TO THOSE VERY LONG. YOU BETTER HOLD ON TO THESE, THOUGH. STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU. ONE IS CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP. GIFT CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER. ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBORS ISLAND, GOOD THAT IT WAS ELEVATED. THE GARAGE HAD WATER, BUT NOT THE RESTAURANT. WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE. ENJOY YOURSELF FOR LUNCH OR DINNER. ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, HIGH AND DRY UP ON NORTH DALE MABRY, PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT CERTIFICATE. ENJOY YOURSELF THERE FOR LUNCH OR DINNER. ON BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, ENJOY YOURSELF, LUNCH OR DINNER. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] I DO WANT TO REACH OUT AND SAY CITY EMPLOYEES ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE CITY, AND WE CONGRATULATE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] NOW IT'S YOUR TURN TO SHINE. >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK KELLY AUSTIN, HR AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, VALERIE HORTON, THE RISK MANAGER, MARCUS CHARLES, THE SUPERVISOR, AND MY COWORKERS FOR RECOGNZING ME FOR THE EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH. WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW THANKFUL I AM. I HOPE TO CONTINUE TO PROVE MYSELF AS AN HONORABLE EMPLOYEE TO THIS DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE YOU HAVE PROVIDED. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS FOR ATTENDING THIS SPECIAL OCCASION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AND CLEARLY YOU ARE VERY LOVED BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH YOU HERE TODAY THAT THEY REALIZE AND THEY KNOW HOW SPECIAL YOU ARE AND HOW VALUABLE YOU ARE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. THIS IS WELL DESERVED. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 3, WHICH IS VIRTUAL. MR. DARRELL BUTLER. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE MR. DARRELL BUTLER. THERE YOU ARE. I'LL LET HIM BEGIN. IT IS OUR FACILITATOR FOR THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE WHICH HAS GONE LIVE AND IS ONLINE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. GOO MORNING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> I'M GOING TO GET MY SLIDES UP AS SOON AS I REMEMBER HOW TO DO THAT. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO GET MY SLIDES UP HERE. VERY SORRY. ARE YOU ABLE TO HELP ME HERE? ALL RIGHT. WELL -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, IF YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS WHILE I DO THIS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL FILL IN THE TIME, SO TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER THROUGH A NUMBER OF MEETINGS ON THIS AND THIS IS FOR OUR RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. I WOULD DIRECT EVERYBODY TO THE WEBSITE WHICH IS -- COUNCIL ALREADY HAS THESE SLIDES, BY THE WAY. YEAH, IF YOU CAN'T -- SOMETIMES TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T WORK WITH US, BUT THERE IS THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION WEBSITE AT THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH DEALS WITH THE MEMBERS WHO ARE GOING TO BE THERE, THE COMMITTEE PROCESS, THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS ALREADY WITH THE DATES WHICH ARE GOING TO RUN FROM OCTOBER 22nd, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST ONE, ALL THE WAY TO FEBRUARY 18 WHEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC FORUM INPUT AND WAYS WHICH WE CAN STAY ENGAGED. IF COUNCIL IS FINE, IF YOU CAN'T GET THE SLIDES UP, WE CAN PROVIDE THEM LATER. THE COUNCIL HAS THEM PRINTED OUT. UNLESS COUNCIL HAS ANY OBJECTION, I'M FINE WITH THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD. >> YEAH, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION THEN. IT IS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA'S VISION TO BE A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. WHERE PEOPLE WILL UNITE TO FIND A CARING, EMPATHETIC SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY IN WHICH EVERY PERSON IS VALUED, CITY CONFRONTS THE HISTORY, LEGACY OF RACIAL INJUSTICE AND INEQUALITY. THAT'S NOT JUST A CITY OF TAMPA SITUATION. IT'S MORE SO IN MANY COMMUNITIES. SO THE CITY OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY CREATED A RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE TO REVIEW STUDY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH RESPECT TO FIVE DESIGNATED AREAS. THOSE FIVE DESIGNATED AREAS ARE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EMPOWERMENT AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUTH, IGNORED HISTORY AND RETURNING CITIZENS AND RESTORATION OF RIGHTS. WITH THESE FIVE AREAS, THE CITY COUNCIL IS IN CONSENSUS THAT THIS COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED SHALL SERVE AS THE CATALYST FOR GREATER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND THE DETERMINATION OF RACIAL HARMONY, RACIAL EQUALITY, AND MATTERS OF JUSTICE AND INCLUSION FOR ALL WITHIN THE CITY. I'LL ADD TO THAT, AS I WAS LISTENING TO THE IMPACT THAT YOU ALL HAD -- I'M UP IN ORLANDO. I WAS LISTENING TO THE IMPACT THAT YOU ALL HAD FROM THE HURRICANE, AND I UNDERSTAND IN THESE MOMENTS, PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AND OVERCOME WHAT WE REFER TO IN MY BUSINESS AS ADVERSE ATTENTION TO FOCUS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MOMENT. THAT IS A WONDERFUL THING. WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS VISION IS TO NOT WAIT FOR MOMENTS OF EMERGENCY AND TRAUMA FOR US TO COME TOGETHER IN THAT CAPACITY. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON ANY GIVEN DAY AS WE MANAGE THROUGH AND WORK THROUGH WHAT WE CALL TENSION OR CHALLENGES FROM RACE RELATIONS, FROM DIVERSITY, FROM DIFFERENCES IN GENERAL. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN -- THE CREATION OF THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE IS THAT KIND OF OVERALL VISION OF COMING TOGETHER IN ANY GIVEN DAY SO THAT WE ARE SHOWING UP THE BEST FOR EACH OTHER WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA. GIVEN THAT, A TEAM HAS BEEN CREATED WITH THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA. THEY ARE THE PROJECT MANAGER OF THIS TEAM. THE TEAM ALSO INCLUDES MYSELF, DARRELL BUTLER, AS THE WORKSHOP FACILITATOR WHERE WE WILL HAVE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS A NUMBER OF WORKSHOPS TO ANALYZE THE SITUATION, TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL -- IDENTIFY ANY GAPS, AND TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS WITHIN THOSE FIVE AREAS. ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO RECORD ALL OF THE INFORMATION. WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE INFORMATION THROUGH THE COLLABORATIVE LABS AS A PROCESS MANAGER FOR USE OF REAL-TIME RECORD RECORDING AND THE NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY USE SO THAT WE'RE CAPTURING IN REAL-TIME THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE, THE WORK OF THE WORKSHOPS AND WITHIN THESE SIX COMMITTEE WORKSHOPS AIMED TO CREATE THE STRATEGIES FOR CLOSING THE KEY GAPS WITHIN THESE AREAS. THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, MYSELF, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT ME, I'VE BEEN IN THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION, REFER TO AS DIVERSITY EMPOWERMENT -- MY DEI, A SPACE FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS TOTAL, 23 OF THOSE YEARS I HAD MY OWN BUSINESS, HELPING ORGANIZATIONS, HELPING COMMUNITIES, HELPING MANY ACROSS THE WORLD, IN FACT, TO CREATE THESE ENVIRONMENTS OF INCLUSION WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, DO BETTER, WORK TOGETHER WHATEVER ENTITY OR STRUCTURE THAT THEY ARE OPERATING IN. I APPRECIATE THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT COMING IN, HEY, DARRELL, CAN YOU HELP US OUT TO FACILITATE THESE WORKSHOPS. FACILITATING WHAT WILL ALREADY BE THERE, WHICH IS THE TALENT OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IDENTIFIED. 13 COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED TO HELP US FIND SOLUTIONS, RESOLUTION FOR BUILDING THE RECONCILIATION AROUND RACE RELATIONS. WITH THAT, THE COMMITTEE SCHEDULE YOU SEE HERE. BEGINNING OCTOBER 22 WILL BE OUR FIRST WORKSHOP. WE'LL DO A SITUATIONAL ANALYSIS AROUND THESE FIVE AREAS, AND THEN MOVING OFF FROM THERE, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY -- NOVEMBER DECEMBER JANUARY I SHOULD SAY, WILL BE THE WORKSHOPS THEMSELVES WHERE WE WILL TACKLE TWO OF THOSE AREAS WITHIN EACH OF THOSE WORKSHOPS. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TIGHT. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, SO THOSE THREE MEETINGS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY WILL FOCUS ON TWO WORKSHOP AREAS WITH TWO POLICY AREAS WITHIN EACH OF THE WORKSHOPS. AND THEN ON FEBRUARY 18, WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC INPUT FORUM. THE PUBLIC IS INVITED, OF COURSE, TO ALL OF THE WORKSHOPS, TO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS. WE ALSO HAVE DESIGNATED ONE PARTICULAR MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT SO THAT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WILL WANT TO INCLUDE THE PUBLIC INPUT TO ADD TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WORKED ON THROUGH THE THREE WORKSHOP MEETINGS IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND JANUARY. THESE MEETINGS WILL BE HELD AT THE CITY CENTER AT HANNA AVENUE LOCATED AT 2555 EAST HANNA AVENUE. YOU CAN ALSO FIND AGAIN ALL THIS INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE. SPEAKING OF THE WEBSITE, THIS IS THE WEBSITE HERE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA JUST MENTIONED. THERE IS A LONG ONE THERE. YOU CAN FIND IT ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE AS WELL. SO WAYS FOR THE PUBLIC TO STAY ENGAGED. AGAIN, COME TO THE WORKSHOP SESSIONS AND LISTEN AND OBSERVE ON THOSE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY MEETINGS. PUBLIC FORUM, FEBRUARY 18. AND SEND YOUR COMMENTS AT ANY POINT IN TIME. WE HAVE A DESIGNATED E-MAIL ADDRESS TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AT RRC@TAMPAGOV.NET. WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE ENGAGED. WE WANT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TO ABSOLUTELY COMMIT TO THIS PROCESS. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TRUSTING IN ME TO HELP TO FACILITATE YOU ALL TO SOME IDEAS FOR RESOLUTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TODAY AND TALKING. AS SOMEONE WHO SAT ON THE CITY'S CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE HAD A FACILITATOR, AND IT WAS THE BEST THING WE DID TO HELP US FOCUS ON THE ISSUES AT HAND. AS YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF THE TOPICS, I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD TIME TO DO THIS AS WE LOOK AT HOW HURRICANE HELENE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LANDSCAPE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS. MY ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO ASK COUNCILMAN VIERA OR STAFF, I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE MEETINGS. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN EXTEND TO ALLOW ONE WORKSHOP FOR EACH TOPIC? I AM HAPPY TO EXTEND FUNDING. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE HURRICANE, WE HAVE A LOT MORE. MORE TRAUMA HAS BEEN OPENED UP FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. I REALLY DO BELIEVE ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO EXTEND WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT. >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT. THESE MEETINGS ARE WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE GIVEN. I WOULD SUPPORT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR MORE MEETINGS. THE PROBLEM IS NOW GOING TO COME WITH THE SCHEDULING. WE CAN WORK IN THAT INTO NOVEMBER DECEMBER JANUARY ET CETERA. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT, THAT'S A CONCERN. I'D LOVE TO SEE TWO ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AT THE VERY LEAST. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. JUST TO MAKE IT WORK. YEAH, I AM SUPPORTIVE. >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, SINCE YOU ARE SPEARHEADING THIS, IF YOU COME TO US WITH A NUMBER. >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, ABSOLUTELY. >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE DATES TO EXTEND THIS. THEY'LL AT LEAST BE ABLE TO GET STARTED. I BELIEVE IN THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. WE CANNOT -- WE CANNOT SHORTCHANGE. QUITE HONEST, FIVE MEETINGS IS NOT ENOUGH BUT A PLACE TO BEGIN. I JUST BELIEVE THAT WITH THESE GIGANTIC TOPICS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS HOURS LONG ON ITS OWN. WHEN YOU WANT TO COMBINE IT WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EMPOWERMENT AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, YOU CAN'T. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T DISAGREE. >>LYNN HURTAK: YES. I WILL SUPPORT YOU. I WILL SECOND YOU, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE REST OF US. THE ONLY OTHER THING I'M GOING TO ASK BEFORE I PASS IT ON, HE SPOKE ABOUT A WEBSITE. AND IT IS NOT ON OUR SHEET. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, LIKE, IF YOU CAN'T READ IT OUT, JUST WHERE CAN WE GO TO FIND THE WEBSITE? >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS LONG. WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL HAVE BRANDON E-MAIL THAT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. IT JUST WENT UP THIS MORNING. >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY MAYBE DURING NEW BUSINESS, PLOP IT ON THE ELMO SO FOLKS CAN SEE IT. SOMETIMES VISUALS HELP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BUTLER, FOR JOINING US TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. BUTLER, FOR TAKING THIS ON, ESPECIALLY REMOTELY. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THANK YOU ALSO TO -- I THINK YOU CAME VIA USF AND MAYBE ANGELA CHRIS AND HER TEAM. IF THAT'S TRUE, THANK YOU. THEY FIND EXCELLENT CONSULTANTS INCLUDING THE ONE THAT WORKED WITH US ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. I'M IN FAVOR OF MORE MEETINGS AS WELL. ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THE TRAUMA OF THE EVENT THAT JUST HAPPENED, I WONDER IF STAFF COULD LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY FEDERAL FUNDING WE COULD GET ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS TO HELP PAY FOR IT. IT MIGHT BE MORE THAN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND OURSELVES IF MR. BUTLER HAS TIME. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, MR. BUTLER, SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED THIS TO YOU BEFORE, BUT TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT CREATED THIS COMMITTEE. ONE WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE AND THEN ADAPTED ONE. YOU WILL HEAR IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO WANT US TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ONE. I'M SURE YOU WILL BE, BUT TO LET YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY YOU'RE GETTING INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE NEW RESOLUTION, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE OF THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE REPRESENTED THERE IF YOU ALSO COVER SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE OLD RESOLUTION. THE LAST THING IS THAT YOU WILL FIND EVEN IN A GROUP THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT HOMOGENEOUS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS. PEOPLE HAVE VERY DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS. I WONDER WHAT YOUR CONSENSUS BUILDING PROCESS IS AND HOW YOU MIGHT TRY TO BUILD CONSENSUS AT THE END KNOWING THAT PEOPLE MAY START WITH VERY DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON HOW TO APPROACH THIS. >> GREAT QUESTION. THE BEAUTY OF THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST TWO DECADES PLUS IS BRINGING DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND PERSPECTIVES TOGETHER TO COME TO SOME KIND OF A CONSENSUS TOWARDS A COMMON GOOD VISION AND A COMMON GOAL. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS. I MANAGED AN ORGANIZATION, 8500 EMPLOYEES WHERE I HAD A RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT I CALL KEEPING EVERYONE HAPPY, WHICH WAS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. AS THE DIRECTOR OF WORK ENVIRONMENT. AND WITH THAT, WE FOUND WHAT IS THE MAIN OBJECT THAT EVERYONE CAN KIND OF LIVE WITH IN OUR APPROACH TO MEET THIS SUBJECT. THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I GO WHEN I TALK ABOUT CONSENSUS. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. THANK YOU, AGAIN, SIR, FOR YOUR WORK. I WANTED TO ASK MR. SHELBY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP THE RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE -- HOW SHALL I SAY IT? WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE. WE ALL VOTED ON THIS COUNCIL WITHOUT DISSENT, MAKE SURE NO DIFFERENT THEORIES OF WHAT'S HAPPENED. MR. SHELBY, WE PASSED RESOLUTION 568 BACK IN 2020, CORRECT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: TO EFFECTUATE AND TURN 568 INTO A COMMITTEE THAT NECESSITATED THE CREATION OF A NEW RESOLUTION, CORRECT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION FROM 2020 DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THE CREATION BY CITY COUNCIL OF A COMMITTEE. >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY. THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO CREATE A RESOLUTION BASED ON THE IDEA THAT WAS ORIGINATED IN 568, WE HAD TO DO A NEW RESOLUTION, CORRECT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ESTABLISH. AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES, WE VOTED ON THE NEW RESOLUTION A NUMBER OF TIMES WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION. I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. THE COMMUNITY HAD BEEN ASKING US TO DO THIS FOR SOME TIME. I WAS ASKED ON A SHOW WFLA, I BELIEVE IT WAS. I SAID I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO IT. KIND OF A FUNNY QUESTION, WELL, I WOULD BE GLAD TO DO IT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. I WANTED TO NOTE THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTIONS DID NOT CREATE THIS COMMITTEE. WE HAD TO PASS A NEW RESOLUTION WHICH PASSED CITY COUNCIL 7-0, WHICH WENT THROUGH NUMEROUS TIMES WITHOUT ANY DISSENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THE NEW RESOLUTION IN NO WAY GETS RID OF THE OLD RESOLUTION. THEY ACTUALLY WORK TOGETHER. THE SECOND ONE WAS NECESSITATED IN ORDER TO GIVE LIFE TO THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FOR EVERYTHING WE VOTED ON. THANK YOU, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO FOLLOW UP THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE RESOLUTION THAT ULTIMATELY MADE THE APPOINTMENTS WAS ALSO PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL WHERE IT MADE REFERENCE TO RESOLUTION 2024-568. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE MAGNA CARTA, ARTICLES OF -- CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE RELATED. WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT SEPARATED WITH CONTROVERSY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN SHARE WHAT I FOUND ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE. CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THERE WAS A QUESTION REGARDING THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. COUNCILMAN VIERA DID SAY THAT HIS OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT PAGE. THAT IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IF YOU GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITY COUNCIL, THERE WILL BE A COLUMN ON THE LEFT THAT SAYS, QUICK LINKS, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, AND AS YOU SCROLL DOWN, IT DOES SAY CITY OF TAMPA RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. IF YOU DO CLICK ON THAT, IT DOES TAKE YOU RIGHT TO THAT PAGE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE? >>LUIS VIERA: NO. AND IF I MAY, AGAIN, I DID WANT TO THANK AGAIN MR. BUTLER AND EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKING WITH YOU. WE MENTIONED MRS. ANGELA CRIST AND OTHERS. MR. SHELBY, WHO ALSO PUT IN A LOT OF TIME. MY OFFICE, BRANDON, AMONG MANY, MANY OTHERS. I WILL, BY THE WAY, I HAVE TO LEAVE HERE. MY SON, LONG STORY SHORT, HAS A PLAY. HAVE TO HELP OUT WITH STUFF. AT ABOUT 4:00, IF I HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY BEFORE MOTION TIME, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION. I'M THINKING THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL GET IT DONE. I'LL MAKE SURE DURING BREAK TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AGAIN SIR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. WE APPRECIATE IT AND FOR THE INFORMATION AND ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MEETING .REGARDS TO RESOLUTION 568, WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK MY APPOINTEE, MY FRIEND, WHO IS ON THIS BOARD, THAT REGARDLESS OF THAT RESOLUTION OR THIS RESOLUTION, EVERYTING THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP FROM 568 TO THIS NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED NOT JUST, THERE'S DIFFERENT POCKETS -- TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING. 568 CANCELED OUT WITH THIS ONE, I WANT EVERYTHING TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS. YOU SAID SOMETHING I WISH I MENTIONED EARLIER WHEN DISCUSSING THE HURRICANE. SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TRAGEDY OR A BIG EVENT TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. I THINK WE IN GENERAL AS MANKIND, WE'RE AN EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSE WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME FIGHTING EACH OTHER. IT IS ALWAYS A TRAGEDY. IF IT'S NOT A WAR, NOT A HURRICANE, NATURAL DISASTER, WE BRING OURSELVES TOGETHER. WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE TREATING EACH OTHER WITH MUTUAL RESPECT AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER AND AVOID CONFLICT IN GENERAL. I'LL READ A QUOTE FROM KIPLING. WE'RE ALL ISLANDS SHOUTING LIES TO EACH OTHER ACROSS SEAS OF MISUNDERSTANDING. IT IS FROM THE LIGHT THAT FAILED WHICH IS LIKE FROM 1907. IT IS AN INTERESTING QUOTE BECAUSE WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN CONFLICT INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR RESOLUTIONS. I HOPE THAT WITH THIS COMMITTEE, WITH THIS BOARD, BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY PERSON THAT'S ON THAT BOARD I KNOW MOST OF THEM, MANY OF THEM PERSONALLY, THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE. THEY EACH HAVE A DIFFERENT, AS ROBIN LOCKETT LIKES TO SAY, A LENS, LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY FROM A DIFFERENT LENS. AND I THINK BRINGING ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS TOGETHER, THIS TEAM TOGETHER, I HOPE AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING POSITIVE CHANGE. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE. I'M GLAD THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS MEETING MULTIPLE TIMES AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THAT AND DISCUSSING IT, INCREASING FUNDING. I WANT ALL THESE TOPICS TO BE DISCUSSED. I WANT RESOLUTION 568 TO BE BROUGHT UP. WHY? BECAUSE I WAS HERE TO VOTE FOR IT AS MANY OTHERS IN 2020, WHY? BECAUSE I SIGNED THAT RESOLUTION, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH TO DISCUSS, SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT AND SO MUCH TO DO MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR. I WANT TO AGAIN BE CLEAR ON THAT ISSUE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHICH IS 568 IN THE RESOLUTION AND THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THE COMMITTEE, THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED. WE VOTED ON THIS NUMEROUS TIMES IN TERMS OF THE TOPICS, ET CETERA. THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS BEING LEFT OUT, RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY MISSTATEMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. THEY ARE ALL INTERTWINED AND WE'VE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ITEM 4. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS TIMELY WITH THE PASS OF HELENA, BUT WE SCHEDULED THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE THE DEADLINE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO FILE WITH THE SBA DISASTER LOAN PROGRAM APPROACHES ON OCTOBER 9. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SBA, SMALL BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, RICK MORALES, TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND THE BENEFITS THAT IT HAS FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. MR. MORALES. YOU HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT. >> FOR THE RECORD, RICK MORALE LESS, PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WITH THE SBA. THE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY OF DISASTER ASSISTANCE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND TIME. IT'S NOT OUR FIRST RODEO. I HAVE TO SAY FLORIDA FOR ME, I HAVE BEEN IN MOST OF THE STATES OF THE EAST. FLORIDA IS ALWAYS THE MOST PREPARED AND VERY ORGANIZED. I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN TALLAHASSEE FOR A SMALLER DECLARATION IN LEON COUNTY. THIS ONE WE KNOW IS A VERY SERIOUS ONE BUT, OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT THE CONSTITUENTS TO BE DISCOURAGED. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR PROGRAMS, FEDERAL AGENCY, ALWAYS THE PEOPLE FIND WAYS TO USE FUNDS. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO GIVE EXAMPLES TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE CONSTITUENTS CAN USE OUR FUNDS, PROGRAMS. WE HAVE FUNDS FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGE, ECONOMIC DAMAGES, AND FOR PROPERTY DAMAGES. THAT MEANS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, NONPROFITS AND BUSINESSES CAN USE THESE FUNDS. IF THEY HAVE DAMAGES WITHIN THE INCIDENT PERIOD, OF COURSE, RIGHT NOW THE INCIDENT PERIOD IS OPEN. IT'S FROM THE DAMAGES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FROM SEPTEMBER 23. USUALLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN THE INCIDENT PERIOD WILL BE CLOSED WITHIN ONE WEEK, TWO WEEKS. WE NEVER KNOW, CLOSE IN THE INCIDENT PERIOD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- TAMPA DIDN'T RECEIVE LIKE A LOT OF DAMAGES FROM DEBBY, BUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAD A LOT OF DAMAGES. SO THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGES FOR DEBBY IS OCTOBER 9. I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES, WE ARE A MELTING POT. THAT IS VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION. IF THE PEOPLE WITH DAMAGES OF DEBBY DIDN'T APPLY, THEY CAN GO NOW AND APPLY WITH HELENA, BECAUSE THOSE DAMAGES WERE FROM DEBBY. IF THEY HAVE DAMAGES WITH DEBBY. IF THEY HAD DAMAGES WITH HELENE, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT TOO. DEBBY AND ONE WITH HELENE, MULTIPLE LOANS APPROVED. VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE DECLARATIONS AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S NOT OFTEN, BUT, YEAH, THAT HAPPENS A LOT. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO VISIT THE DISASTER RECOVERY CENTERS. THOSE ARE FROM FEMA, BUT WE WERE THERE TOO. WE HAVE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE FROM SBA. MOO TWO CMY TWO CENTS, THAT IS T ONE. GOOD ALTERNATIVE, SBA.GOV/DISASTER. PROVIDING ALSO MATERIAL. PARTNERSHIP, COLLEAGUE TIMOTHY. ON THE PAPER WE HAVE QR CODES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THE QR CODE TO APPLY. WHEN YOU GO TO A DRC, WHEN YOU VISIT A DRC, YOU CAN APPLY WITH BOTH FEDERAL AGENCIES. SAME DAY, SAME BUILDING, NO DUPLICATION OF BENEFITS. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU VISIT A DRC YOU CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE BRC, BUSINESS RECOVERY CENTERS. THOSE ARE FROM SBA. IF YOU GO THERE, YOU CAN APPLY THAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE. ALSO, I WILL BE SENDING -- SHARE WITH YOU ALL THE ADDRESSES, CENTERS TIME, BRC AND DRCs IN ALL THE COUNTIES IN THE SOUTH FLORIDA. THAT'S VERY VALUABLE AND HELPFUL TOO. I'LL MENTION SOME WAYS ON HOW THE PEOPLE USE THESE FUNDS EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT GRANTS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE DENIED BY SBA SPECIFICALLY HOMEOWNERS OR RENTERS WITH THIS ONE, WE MIGHT REFER THEM TO FEMA SO FEMA MIGHT, LET ME SAY MIGHT BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW. THEY MIGHT GIVE THEM OLDER DISASTER ASSISTANCE LIKE GRANTS. AT LEAST THEY HAVE HOPE TO RECEIVE SOMETHING JUST BY APPLYING WITH US. A GOOD OPTION. LET'S SAY FEMA DENIES YOU, FEMA APPROVED FUNDS ARE NOT ENOUGH OR YOU RECEIVE THE CHECK FROM FEMA BUT IT TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO RECEIVE THAT CHECK. THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES, WITH ALL THE RESOURCES, SAME WITH SBA. RECOMMEND ALSO IN TIMES OF DISASTER, APPLY WITH EVERYTHING. BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT PART YOU'LL GET THE MONEY FASTER. I LIKE WHAT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ESPECIALLY SAID, HE MENTIONED A LOT OF RESOURCES, RED CROSS, UNITED WAY. THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD RESOURCES. I WANT TO MENTION ALSO THE 800 NUMBER. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIME. IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE TIME TO EXPLAIN MORE BENEFITS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO GIVE HIM THREE MORE MINUTES? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND. MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GO AHEAD. >> 800 NUMBER THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER NUMBER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD? >> PERFECT. SO DIFFERENT IN COMPARISON WITH THE OTHER STATES. BELIEVE ME. THE PEOPLE THAT HAD INSURANCE, YOU KNOW THAT CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME TOO. WAITING FOR THE PAYMENT. INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE PAYMENT OR SETTLEMENT, THEY CAN APPLY FOR US AND MIGHT GET THE MONEY FASTER. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THE PEOPLE USE THIS. MITIGATION LETTER IS IMPORTANT, SAYS WHY YOU ARE BEING DENIED. WHEN YOU GO AND VISIT OTHER RESOURCES LIKE NONPROFIT, OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE THE USDA, THEY CAN TELL YOU HOW YOU ARE GOING TO USE OTHER TYPES OF RESOURCES. THEY CAN'T SEND YOU AND RECOMMEND YOU HOW TO GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES BETTER BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE. THAT IS ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THINGS. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TOO. ALSO IN COMPARISON WITH NORMAL FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OUR INTEREST RATES ARE FIXED. OUR COLLATERAL IS UP TO 25,000. SO THAT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT NOTHING IN GUARANTEE. THAT'S USEFUL TOO. OUR LIMITS ARE UP TO 2 MILLION FOR PHYSICAL AND ECONOMICAL DAMAGES. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WOULD BE GREAT TO ANSWER THEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD SAY IF THEY COULD SHOW IT ONE MORE TIME. TIM, IF YOU COULD BLOW UP -- YEAH, JUST SO THAT FOLKS COULD SEE THE PHONE NUMBER AND THE QR CODE. THE QR CODE, WEBSITE AND PHONE NUMBER. THE WEBSITE IS SBA.GOV/DISASTER. PHONE NUMBER, 1-800-659-2955. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SBA PROVIDES LOW-INTEREST LOANS FOR FIXED RATES. IF SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A GRANT THAT WOULD BE FEMA. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE. THANK YOU. VERY TIMELY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. MR. SHELBY, REGARDING 67 AND 68. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, EXCUSE ME JUST A MINUTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO TAKE 67 AND 68 BEFORE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE WAY IT STANDS IS THIS, PAGE 15 OF THE AGENDA, THE 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ITEMS 67 AND 68. WE JUST FINISHED UP THE ITEM, ITEM 4. HERE WE ARE, IT IS NOW 10:35. ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE AGENDA, I WILL POINT OUT THAT THE MOTION WAS MADE THAT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS REGARDING THIS ITEM, THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 3 -- READING FROM THE MINUTES, 2024 AT A TIME CERTAIN OF 10:30 A.M. COUNCIL HAS A DECISION TO MAKE. GRANTED, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PUBLIC WAITING TO MAKE A COMMENT. THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT IT WAS COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION TO SET THIS FOR A TIME CERTAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD COUNCIL LIKE TO MOVE TO OPEN THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS 67 AND 68 AND THEN TAKE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 67 AND 68 AND THEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FILE NUMBERS DA 24-8133. IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. STAFF PRESENTING? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A MEMBER OF STAFF PRESENT FOR THIS ITEM? OR ONLINE? MADAM CLERK, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE FROM STAFF? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MS. FEELEY. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MS. FEELEY. >>ABBYE FEELEY: HOW ABOUT NOW? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WE GO. >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR, DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. REBECCA JOHNS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS GOING TO BE PRESENT TO PRESENT ON THIS ALSO. THIS IS THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WHEN WE LEFT OFF LAST WEEK IN RELATION -- I'M SORRY, A FEW WEEKS AGO. GOT TO GET MY DAYS STRAIGHT RIGHT NOW. THERE WAS A MEETING TO BE HELD BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY. THAT MEETING DID TAKE PLACE IN RELATION TO THE IMPROVEMENTS AND TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES TO COME TO AGREEMENT AND GO IN THERE. I BELIEVE THAT MR. GARDNER WILL BE PRESENT TO PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF THAT MEETING AND THE INTENTION OF THE DEVELOPER IN MOVING FORWARD THIS MORNING. IS MR. GARDNER IN THE CHAMBERS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE MR. GARDNER IN THE CHAMBERS. ARE YOU READY TO HAND IT OFF TO MR. GARDNER? MR. GARDNER, STATE YOUR NAME. >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE HERE ON BEHALF OF BRIAN FUNK. AS ABBYE MENTIONED, WE DID MEET -- DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? WE DID MEET WITH THE BASE. WE'VE ALWAYS VIEWED THE BASE AS OUR PARTNER IN THIS. WE THINK THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE HOTEL AS WELL AS THE TRAILHEAD, THEY WILL BE A LARGE USER OF THAT. THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO MEET WITH THEM, BACKING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DESIGN OF THE PARK, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE IN A VERY PASSIVE MANNER. WE WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS. WE CAME TO THAT MEETING WITH THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE AND TRYING TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE PASSIVE. IDEAS WE PUT ON THE TABLE, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THE PARK HAS NO RESTROOM. THAT IS NOT A FORWARD OBLIGATION SO WE SAID WE WOULD COMMIT ON THE RECORD THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A RESTROOM FACILITY. WE THINK THAT IS THE BIGGEST LIMITING FACTOR IN JUST HUMAN NATURE AND HUMAN BIOLOGY ON NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE. SECONDLY, THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT WAS COMFORTABLE THAT THIS PARK WOULD NOT BE PROGRAMMED, YOU COULDN'T HAVE PLANNED EVENTS. COULDN'T HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THINGS OF THE LIKE. NOT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE. THIRD, WE OFFERED UP SIGNAGE THAT THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF CONGREGATION. REALLY BACK TO THE SPIRIT, THIS IS A TRAILHEAD THAT, YES, DOES HAVE PARKING WHERE YOU COULD UNLOAD YOUR BICYCLE IF SOMEBODY WAS ON THE TRAIL AND NEEDED A BENCH TO REST FOR A MINUTE, THEY COULD. AGAIN, WITH NO FACILITIES, THIS IS A PLACE FOR PASSING THROUGH. SO WE PRESENTED THAT TO THEM. I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THAT THEY STILL HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THAT. BUT WE FEEL THAT IT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF THE CITY AS IT RECEIVED THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE DIGS PROGRAM. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RESOLUTION, AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AGAIN, HAPPY TO STATE ON THE RECORD TO DO ANYTHING TO MAKE THIS AS PASSIVE AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE'RE ACTING IN THE SPIRIT OF THE RESOLUTION AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. AS YOU'LL RECALL BEFORE, THIS WAS AN AREA THAT WAS OVERGROWN AND IT BECAME A LARGE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT WHERE PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY LIVING THERE. WE FEEL THAT HAVING THIS CLEANED UP AND HAVING THIS IN THE SPIRIT OF A TRUE TRAILHEAD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION. WE'VE GOT ANYTHING YOU MAY WANT TO SEE, BUT REALLY WANTED TO, SPECIFIC MOOD FROM THE CITY WAS FOR US TO MEET WITH THEM AND WANTED TO REPORT BACK ON THE MEETING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE WE GET QUESTIONS, I SEE REBECCA JOHNS HAS ENTERED THE ROOM. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS RAISED AT THE LAST HEARING THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS LOOKED FOR ANYTHING THAT ESTABLISHED A LEGAL DESCRIPTION FOR THE CLEAR ZONE THAT WAS REFERENCED BY MacDILL. STAFF HAD NOT FOUND ANYTHING THAT ESTABLISHED THAT CLEAR ZONE. I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE MR. MULKEY IS ONLINE AS WELL. >>TONY MULKEY: TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. WAS IN THAT MEETING WITH THE BASE AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEVELOPERS. WANTED TO KIND OF JUST PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPROACH OF THE PARK SPACE HERE AND HOW WE KIND OF VIEW THINGS. THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH ESSENTIALLY ITEMS YOU WOULD FIND IN A RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT REALLY IS JUST A MAINTAINED PUBLIC REALM SPACE, COUPLE OF BENCHES WITHIN THAT CLEAR ZONE THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED. THERE ARE OTHER AMENITIES IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR. STREET PARKING, BUS BENCHES, ESTABLISHED VISITOR CENTER THAT THE BASE HAS HAD A WAIVER ON WHICH ALSO HAS PUBLIC SPACE AS WELL. SO THIS ALL KIND OF REALLY CONFORMS WITH THOSE PUBLIC REALM AMENITIES. AND THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE TOOK. WE WILL NOT PERMIT EVENTS. THIS IS A PASS-THROUGH SPACE. YES, THERE IS PASSIVE SPACE IN THERE BUT NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT AREA, EXCEPT THAT IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS IT'S CURRENTLY NOT PROGRAMMED ON OUR MAINTENANCE ROTATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. GLAD TO SUPPORT IT. >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BASE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN -- >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT -- TO ME IT'S NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THEIR CONTINUED OPPOSITION TO WHAT IS AFTER THEIR MEETING. I THINK THEY ARE A VERY BIG PART OF THIS. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL% MEMBERS. TONY RODRIGUEZ. I'M WITH THE SIXTH CIVIL ENGINEER SQUADRON WITH MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. I HAVE WITH ME TODAY COLONEL McGHEE, OUR MISSION SUPPORT GROUP COMMANDER. ESSENTIALLY OUR CITY MANAGER, LIEUTENANT COLONEL NEIL WITH JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL OFFICE AS WELL AS MR. PARKER WITH JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL'S OFFICE. MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE WE STILL WOULD LIKE TO OBJECT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE'VE GOT -- I GUESS THE THING THAT'S ONCE AGAIN BEING LOST HERE IN THE INTERPRETATION FROM THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY IS THAT WHERE THE PARK IS PROPOSED IS WITHIN OUR CLEAR ZONE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SHARED WITH THE CITY FOR YEARS NOW. THIS IS A 3,000 BY 3,000 BOX OFF THE END OF OUR RUNWAY, AND THIS IS AN AREA OF HIGHEST AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT POTENTIAL. SO WE DON'T WANT GATHERING PLACES OF PEOPLE IN THE CLEAR ZONE. IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE GOOD SENSE. WE'VE SHARED -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME, THE ACU STUDY. WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF ON THE LAST UPDATE OF THIS. AND WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE, IT IS RECOMMENDED NO PARKS AND NO PARKING LOTS. FURTHERMORE TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS NO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE. EVEN IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A PARKING LOT, BY YOUR STANDARDS, THE PARKING LOTS WOULD NEED TO HAVE LIGHTS. THE LIGHTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT. AS FAR AS MR. MULKEY'S COMMENT ABOUT THESE AMENITIES ARE WITHIN NORMAL PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, WELL, THIS IS A CITY-OWNED PARCEL, BUT THIS IS NOT PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY IS LIKE A STREET. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE BASE'S PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE OVER 19,000 MEMBERS THAT WORK AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. $11 BILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALONE. ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR AIR OPERATIONS MISSION WOULD NOT ONLY BE DETRIMENTAL TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BUT DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MY QUESTION TO YOU BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE A STICKING POINT THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ABOUT, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAVING YOUR WELCOME CENTER THERE AND HAVING THE PUBLIC PARK? >> THE WELCOME CENTER IT'S KIND OF A NECESSARY EVIL. THAT IS AT THE ENTRANCE TO OUR BASE. THERE IS NO OTHER LOCATION ALONG OUR BASE BOUNDARY WHERE WE CAN HAVE THAT VISITOR CENTER TO CLEAR PEOPLE COMING INTO THE BASE OTHER THAN AT THAT DALE MABRY LOCATION. SO WE HAVE AN AIR FORCE PROCESS FOR PROPERTY THAT WE OWN OF WHICH WE OWN THE PROPERTY WHERE THE VISITOR CENTER IS AT TO GET A WAIVER TO ALLOW THAT SORT OF FUNCTION TO OCCUR. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE AIR FORCE TAKES VERY SERIOUSLY. UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO THAT SORT OF WAIVER ON THE CITY'S PARCEL BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN THAT PARCEL. >> I AM THE LEGAL ADVISOR TO THE WING COMMANDER. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO BE HEARD ON THIS. AS TONY SAID, THE VISITOR CENTER RETAINED WAIVER FOR. WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTROL KIND OF THE ACCESS TO THAT LOCATION, PRIMARILY MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO ARE THERE CARRYING OUT OFFICIAL OPERATIONS. A PARK IN THE CLEAR ZONE OFF BASE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO CONTROL ACCESS, ESPECIALLY WHEN ALSO INCLUDING A PARKING LOT AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- I THINK THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZES WE DO AS WELL THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BASE AND THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY AS THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH HURRICANE RECOVERY OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW OnBase WITH SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE AND COLONEL McGHEE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RECOVERY EFFORTS IS HERE SHOWING HOW IMPORTANT THIS ISSUE IS TO US AS A BASE. THE PARCEL OF LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CLEAR ZONE, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WAS RETAINED WITH DEFENSE INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT IN 2005-2006 WITH THE AID OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE FOR THE VERY PURPOSE OF AVOIDING THE KIND OF SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN NOW. THAT'S ADVOCATING FOR KEEPING THE CLEAR ZONE FREE. IN TERMS OF AUTHORITY, COMMENT MADE EARLIER, NO AUTHORITY FOR WHAT A CLEAR ZONE IS. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. WHILE NOT A STATUTORY AUTHORITY, THERE IS AIR INSTALLATION COMPATIBLE USE ZONE STUDY IN 2023. 114 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT HAS EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION OF WHAT A CLEAR ZONE IS AND WHAT DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED IN THAT AREA. THAT IS A STUDY DONE AT EVERY AIR FORCE INSTALLATION IN THE AIR FORCE. THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE STUDY ARE VERY STANDARD TO AIR INSTALLATIONS AND ALSO DONE WITH THE BUY-IN OF THE TAMPA CITY PLANNER BECAUSE YOUR STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE ISSUES IN THAT ACU STUDY, COLLOQUIALLY RECOVER TO IT. IN THE STUDY IT TALKED ABOUT PARKS IN APPENDIX A, IN THE CLEAR ZONE, PARKS ARE A NO. THAT'S FOR, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ANTI-PARK, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY PERSONNEL AS WELL AS ENSURING THERE ISN'T ANY OBSTRUCTION TO EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE MILITARY OPERATIONS FROM THE BASE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. AGAIN, WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFY THAT POSITION. AGAIN, TO CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE KIND OF WITH THE CITY AS WE'RE PROTECTING OUR MILITARY OPERATIONS BUT ALSO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKE MS. HENDERSON FIRST. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MILITARY OFFICER THAT JUST LEFT THE PODIUM. GOOD MORNING. SO YOU RECEIVED A WAIVER FOR THE WELCOME CENTER, WHICH YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR. HOW MANY PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE WELCOME CENTER? >> THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, MA'AM. I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS THAT GO THROUGH THE WELCOME CENTER, VISITOR CENTER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: A BALLPARK, A THOUSAND, TEN THOUSAND? >> IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK. IF IT WAS, PURE SPECULATION IN TERMS OF THE EXACT NUMBER. THE ENTRANCE TO THAT AND ULTIMATELY THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLED THROUGH THAT, AGAIN, OFFICIAL OPERATIONS FOR OBTAINING VISITOR PASSES TO GO ON THE INSTALLATION, AREA CONTROLLED BY THE MILITARY AND WE CONTROL THE ACCESS TO IT. I UNDERSTAND THE POINT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT GO THROUGH THERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE THAT PARKING SPACES WHERE CARS ARE PARKED AND PEOPLE AT A VERY LIMITED PARK THAT DOESN'T HAVE EQUIPMENT, WHERE IT IS A MAJOR HANGOUT PARK WOULD BE LESS THAN THE PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH A WELCOME CENTER WHERE YOU GOT A WAIVER FOR IT? EVEN THOUGH IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE UTILIZING A PARK OF THIS CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY A FEW BENCHES AND A DECORATIVE SPACE FOR FOLKS AND THEN PARKING. PEOPLE DON'T HANG OUT IN PARKING LOTS. IT'S JUST FOR PARKING. WHAT WOULD BE THE HUGE SIGNIFICANT SAFETY THAT WOULD IMPEDE THE MILITARY BASE IN A SAFETY SITUATION? >> ANYTIME WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A CLEAR ZONE, WE HAVE TO BE ANALYZING THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. ARE WE INCREASING THE DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO POTENTIALLY MILITARY OPERATIONS? WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE VISITOR CENTER THAT WE HAD TO RECEIVE THE PERMANENT WAIVER FOR. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT I WOULD NOTE AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PARK AND THE PARKING LOT, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S PROJECTED FOLLOW-ON DEVELOPMENT OF A HOTEL THAT'S UP AGAINST THE PARKING LOT. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AS INFREQUENTLY TRAFFICKED AS SUGGESTED IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU THINK LESS PEOPLE THAN WOULD COME THROUGH A WELCOME CENTER? >> POTENTIALLY. STILL ADDITIONAL INDIVIDUALS PUTTING IN DANGER. WE'RE ADDING TO ALREADY THE RISK THAT WAS ASSUMED WITH THE VISITOR CENTER AS DESCRIBED BY TONY AND AS GRANTED BY THE THREE STAR GENERAL WHO HAD TO GRANT THE EXCEPTION FOR THE VISITOR CENTER. WE'RE ADDING TO IT. NOT CANCELING ANYTHING OUT OR LESSENING THE DANGER WITH THE VISITOR CENTER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MUCH DANGER HAS COME TO THE CLEAR ZONE IN THE PAST TEN YEARS? >> MA'AM, WE HAVE NOT HAD AIRCRAFT CRASH. COLONEL McGO AND MYSELF -- McGHEE AND MYSELF, SEEN AIRCRAFT CRASH, UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMTANCE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANSWER THE QUESTION, HOW MANY? >> NONE IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: LAST 20 YEARS. >> NONE IN THE CLEAR ZONE LAST 20 YEARS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT ANY TIME, ANY DANGEROUS SITUATION IN THAT CLEAR ZONE AREA THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO PREVENT A PARKING LOT? >> MA'AM, IN TERMS -- IT IS THE DANGER THERE. NOT WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAVE BEEN CRASHES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN'T BE TOO MUCH DANGER IF IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL FOR YOU TO GET A WAIVER FOR THE WELCOME CENTER WHERE LOTS OF PEOPLE COME THROUGH. CAN'T BE THAT SERIOUS. YOU HAD TO GET THE WAIVER BECAUSE IT'S PROTOCOL. WOULD YOU AGREE? PROTOCOL FOR YOU TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT YOU CONSIDER THE CLEAR ZONE SO THE PROCEDURE IS GET A WAIVER. >> THE PROCEDURE IS FOR THE WAIVER TO COME FROM VERY HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED. IN THE CLEAR ZONE BECAUSE OF THE DANGER THAT PRESENTS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S HOW YOU SOLVED THE PROBLEM, YOU GOT THE WAIVER. FOR US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN THERE'S CLEARLY NO SIGNIFICANT DANGER THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST 10, 20, 30, 40 YEARS, WHY WOULD THIS BE SUCH AN ARGUMENT FOR MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BESIDES THAT? WHEN YOU CLEARLY HAVE A WELCOME CENTER THERE THAT BRINGS ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH THERE. >> BECAUSE THE SEVERITY OF THE DANGER THAT EXISTS. IT'S NOT ABOUT -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY CLASSIFIED THAT BECAUSE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. OBVIOUSLY, MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB. LET'S TALK ABOUT -- LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT BECAUSE CLEARL NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. IF THERE WAS A DANGEROUS SITUATION, WHAT WOULD YOU DO FOR THE PEOPLE AT THE WELCOME CENTER? >> WHAT'S THAT? >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN THE SENSE, IT IS A CLEAR ZONE AND YOU HAVE A WAIVER TO HAVE A WELCOME CENTER THERE, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN THAT WAS DANGEROUS, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE? >> WE WOULD -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO IS ANSWERING THAT QUESTIN? >> ULTIMATELY WE WOULD CLOSE DOWN THE VISITOR CENTER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW DO DO YOU THAT? >> WE CONTROL THE AREA AND CLOSE IT DOWN AND WE CONTROL ACCESS TO THE VISITOR CENTER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD YOU INFORM THE PARKING LOT PEOPLE AND PARK PEOPLE TO CLOSE IT DOWN? COULDN'T WE DO THE SAME THING FOR THAT AREA? >> WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT AREA. >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD WE -- >> CAN I DO A POINT OF ORDER? >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, NO, YOU CANNOT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, A POINT OF ORDER HAS BEEN RAISED. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS, FOR COUNCIL PROCEDURE, IF WE COULD HAVE QUESTION AND AN ANSWER. THAT'S ALL FOR THE OFFICER. THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHATEVER THE CHAIR'S RULING ON THE POINT OF ORDER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF MY THOUGHT. I KNOW IT'S TOUGH QUESTIONING, BUT I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING. I HAVE THESE QUESTIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO KEEP THEM TO MYSELF. WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. ME CHALLENGING THE MILITARY, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. NOTHING AGAINST THE LAW, IS IT? >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE. MY ISSUE IS HAVE A QUESTION AND TIME FOR AN ANSWER. IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SIX HOURS WITH QUESTIONS, YOUR GOD-GIVEN RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOW, JUST LIKE IN THE CLASSROOM, I FORGOT WHAT I WAS SAYING AND THE STUDENTS USUALLY HELP ME OUT WITH THAT. >> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING CLOSED, AUTHORITY TO HAVE IT CLOSED -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, NO, NO. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY. THE WELCOME CENTER, IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, YOU COULD SHUT IT DOWN. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU DO, COULD YOU INFORM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO DO THE SAME THING? >> WE COULD SIMPLY INFORM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE, MA'AM. BUT THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THERE IS A DANGER. IT'S THE DANGER TO THE PERSONNEL THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE THERE OR THE PERSONS THAT WOULD BE THERE IF THERE WAS A CATASTROPHIC CRASH OR ANOTHER ISSUE THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT ZONE, WHICH IF THE PARK AND THE PARKING LOT ARE BUILT THERE, WE CERTAINLY CANNOT STOP THAT IF THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THERE BEFORE THE CRASH HAPPENS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S COMING. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A CLEAR ZONE, THAT'S WHY THERE IS A BUFFER THAT EXISTS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S STEP OUTSIDE OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. IN A CLEAR ZONE IN THE UNITED STATES, HAVE YOU ALL EVER SHUT DOWN A WELCOME CENTER IN A CLEAR ZONE AT OTHER BASES? HAS THAT HAPPENED? >> WE CERTAINLY SHUT DOWN VISITOR CENTERS. I DON'T KNOW EVERY POTENTIAL CRASH THAT HAS HAPPENED AT EVERY DAYS. AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR ZONE THAT EXISTS, WHICH DOES EXIST AT EVERY AIR FORCE INSTALLATION, A CLEAR ZONE THAT EXISTS TO MINIMIZE ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THAT CLEAR ZONE. THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEHIND THE CLEAR ZONE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT OTHER INSTALLATIONS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD AT THEIR VISITOR CENTERS MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: MY LAST QUESTION. DID YOU GET THE WAIVER TO BUILD THE WELCOME CENTER? DID YOU DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER? >> TONY CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE INTELLIGENTLY THAN I CAN, MA'AM. >> WAIVER HAS TO BE OBTAINED BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] -- INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PRESENTING THE CASE. HAVE YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS CASE? WHAT WAS THE RESULT? >> YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ASKING BOTH SIDES TO ANSWER THIS THING. I HAVE TO GET SOME CLARITY. HEARING ONE THING ON ONE SIDE AND OPPOSITE FROM THE OTHER AND WE'RE NOT ANY CLOSER THAN WE WERE BEFORE. >> THIS PAST MONDAY WE HAD A TEAMS MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM CITY OF TAMPA AND THE DEVELOPER TEAM. WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT AT OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ANY NEW GROUND AS FAR AS A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD ALLOW A PARK TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE, WHICH IS OUR MAJOR CONCERN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY WE ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THE BASE. THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING. TO CLARIFY JUST SOME TERMINOLOGY, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING A PARK. THIS IS A TRAILHEAD. FITS THE DEFINITION OF A TRAILHEAD. WE WORKED WITH THE CITY SPECIFICALLY ON THIS. THE CITY GOT THE LAND. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT ON REBUTTAL TO GO THROUGH THE RESOLUTION OF WHAT IT SAYS WHICH I THINK IS IN THE SPIRIT OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE CAME TO THE TABLE ON MONDAY WITH ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO MAKE THIS EVEN MORE PASSIVE AND LESS OF A PLACE OF CONGREGATION. THAT'S WHEN WE PROPOSED, STATE ON THE RECORD THERE WILL NEVER BE RESTROOMS AT THE FACILITY. STATE ON THE RECORD, THIS WILL NEVER BE A PARK PROGRAMMED SO IT IS AN AREA OF CONGREGATION. WE PROPOSED THAT WE'LL HAVE SIGNAGE THAT THIS IS NOT FOR CONGREGATION. THIS IS LITERALLY FOR PEOPLE TO PASS THROUGH ON THE TRAILHEAD. I'LL GO THROUGH THE RESOLUTION ON REBUTTAL, BUT THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED TO HOPE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING. >> THAT WAS DISCUSSED, OFFERED AND NOT RECEIVED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, SOUTH TAMPA, MacDILL, YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO ME. I RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF MacDILL THROUGH THE TAMPA CHAMBER. BEEN INVOLVED TANGENTIALLY SEVERAL TIMES. I THINK S A COMMUNITY WE APPRECIATE AND RESPECT MacDILL. ALSO VERY SMALL THING. I WAS A CADET COMMANDER OF CIVIL AIR SQUADRON WHEN IN HIGH SCHOOL. TRAINED BY THE AIR FORCE TOO. STARTED READING PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANUALS. BEEN IN AND AROUND THE AIR FORCE AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF FLIGHT LINES AND FLIGHT SAFETY AND THESE CLEAR ZONES. I THINK THE QUESTION HERE IS CAN WE -- IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME LIKE IT HAS TO BE EITHER-OR. SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ROOM TO MANEUVER. LET ME SET UP A PREMISE AND THEN WE CAN GET YOUR RESPONSE. FIRST OF ALL, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TO TAKE THE WORD PARK COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE UNDER PARKS OR MOBILITY, BUT FROM WHAT I RECALL, YOU SAID LAST TIME WHEN YOU ALL INITIALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND, YOU ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD CONGREGATE BUT IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PATHWAY FOR THE BICYCLE LANE. I THINK ORIGINALLY THE DEVELOPER HAD PROPOSED SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON A PARK AS AN AMENITY. THEY REALIZED SINCE THEN IT CAN'T BE A PARK. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD NOT CALL IT A PARK. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER TRAILHEAD IS THE RIGHT WORD OR SOMETHING ELSE, PASS THROUGH, JUST A COMPONENT OF THE CYCLE WAY. IF YOU ALL WERE OKAY WITH THAT PREMISE BACK THEN, I WOULD SAY LET'S STAY TRUE ON THE PARK PART OF IT LETS STAY TRUE TO WHAT YOU ALL PROMISED BACK THEN OR WHAT YOU ALL WERE OKAY WITH. TRANSIENT PEOPLE WOULD BE ON BICYCLES AND PASS THROUGH AND NOT PUT ANY AMENITES THERE, LET'S NOT EVEN CALL IT A PARK. THAT'S ABOUT -- I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY TWO-THIRDS THREE-QUARTERS OF THE LAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE ON I THINK WESTERN SIDE WHICH IS PART OF THE PARKING LOT. I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE, BUT YOU HAD TWO CONCERNS. ONE IS YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE. AS I LOOK AT IT, PEOPLE PARK THEIR CAR. THEY ARE THERE FOR A FEW SECONDS AND THEN LEAVE. TYPICALLY PEOPLE DON'T CONGREGATE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE HOTEL PRIORITIZATION OF PARKING SO THEY CAN PUT CARS PRIMARILY OUTSIDE OF THAT ZONE. BUT IF THEY NEED IT, IT'S OVERFILL BUT INSIST PEOPLE DON'T STAND THERE. YOU TALK ABOUT THE VERTICAL HEIGHT WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD UNDERSTAND WE DON'T WANT TO PUT UP OBSTRUCTIONS. MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY TO LIGHT THE PARKING LOT OR LIGHT THAT SECTION. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE WELCOME CENTER. ONE OF MY SONS GOES TO SCHOOL NEAR MacDILL. SO I DRIVE DOWN DALE MABRY EVERY DAY. YESTERDAY, IT WAS BACKED UP NORTH OF GANDY. SO THERE WERE PROBABLY A HUNDRED OR MORE CARS FULL OF PEOPLE, REALLY IMPORTANT PEOPLE PROBABLY GOING ON BASE WHO WERE IN THAT CLEAR ZONE. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S MORE OF A RISK THAN THE WELCOME CENTER AND THERE MAY BE OTHER CASES HERE. MY BIG QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF WE SAY WE'RE STRICTLY GOING TO STICK TO THE ORIGINAL PREMISE OF THAT PIECE OF THE LAND AND ONLY MAKE IT A PASS-THROUGH, NO AMENITIES, DON'T EVEN CALL IT A PARK IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? ON THE SMALL PIECE THAT WOULD HAVE CARS, IS IT OKAY THAT WE MAYBE PRIORITIZE NOT USING IT, THAT WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T CONGREGATE THERE AND THAT WE USE LOWER LEVEL LIGHTS. WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE, UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERNS? >> CHRIS PARKER. I'M AN ATTORNEY AT THE INSTALLATION LEGAL OFFICE. TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, I THINK OUR COMPROMISE IS THE TRAILHEAD. THE GREENWAY AND TRAILHEADS, AS LONG AS IT'S A PASS-THROUGH. WE SEE PEOPLE WILL USE THEIR BIKES AND CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPOSALS WE SAW WAS A CIRCULAR TRAIL, POTENTIAL BENCHES AND A PARKING LOT WHICH MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONGREGATE, STAY THERE. THEY MIGHT EVEN, KIDS, PEOPLE WILL DO ACTIVITIES THERE. WE ARE I THINK OUR COMPROMISE IS THE TRAILHEAD, THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT PROCESS FROM THE GRANT AND TO CONNECT THE TWO SIDES, THE TWO BAYS. TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION ON THE PARKING, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO OUR MAIN GOAL HERE AND THE REASON WHY WE DO THIS STUDY AND WE DO IT AT EVERY INSTALLATION IS FOR SAFETY. TO LIMIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES TO LIMIT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY PARKING LOTS, PARKS, ANYWHERE WHERE SOMEONE WILL CONGREGATE. IF YOU HAVE A TRAILHEAD, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK THERE. THEY ARE GOING TO GO AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE GONE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME ON TOP OF THAT, I GO TO GADSDEN PARK ALL THE TIME. I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE VEHICLES THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY THAT STAY THERE CONSTANTLY, AND THEY LEAVE THEIR VEHICLES THERE. THAT'S WHERE YOU TEND -- THAT'S WHAT YOU TEND TO SEE AT ALL PARKS. OUR WORRY THERE IS THAT THAT PARKING LOT WILL BE USED CONSTANTLY. THAT'S NOT EVEN TO MENTION THE HOTEL. THAT PARKING LOT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOTEL, THE PROPOSED HOTEL ON THE EASTERN PART OF THE PARCEL. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT PARKING LOT WILL ALSO BE POTENTIALLY USED FOR HOTEL PARKING, WHICH MEANS YOU AGAIN HAVE VEHICLES STAYING THERE LONGER PERIODS OF TIME AND POTENTIALLY PEOPLE BEING THERE AT THOSE VEHICLES. AS FAR AS LIGHTING, I'M NOT SURE OF THE CITY REGULATIONS ON LIGHTING. I KNOW USUALLY IT IS VERTICAL LIGHTING IN PARKING LOTS FOR MOST CITIES. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT IF THAT IS A POTENTIAL. YEAH, OUR ISSUE WITH THAT IS THIS IS WHERE OUR AIRCRAFT TAKE OFF. THAT'S WHY IT IS THE CLEAR ZONE. WE WANT NO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS FOR THAT REASON. AND ESPECIALLY LIGHTING COMING FROM VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS CAN ALSO CAUSE AN ISSUE. ONE POINT THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN RAISED HERE IS I THINK WE HAVE NOT ANALYZED THE PROPOSED HOTEL, THE FIVE-STORY PROPOSED HOTEL ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PARCEL. I THINK IT'S OUR REQUEST THAT INSTEAD OF FIRST LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PARK AND PARKING LOT OR TRAILHEAD THAT INSTEAD WE ANALYZE WHETHER, HEY, THE FIVE STORY PARK THAT IS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE CLEAR ZONE, RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE AIRCRAFT TAKING OFF IT ALSO GETS ANALYZED. IT GETS ANALYZED BY FAA. IT GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE SEE IT AS BACKWARDS. WHY ARE WE DOING THE PARK OR THE PARKING LOT FOR THE TRAILHEAD WHICH SEEMS TO BE CONNECTED TO THIS HOTEL, WHY IS THAT ANALYSIS AND PROPOSAL GOING FIRST? WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT UP AT THAT MEETING, THEY JUST SAID, HEY, IT SEEMED LIKE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT HOTEL AND PARK WITHOUT CLEANING UP THIS AREA. IT SEEMS TO US LIKE THE INTENDED PURPOSE IS LESS THE PARK OR TRAILHEAD AND MORE TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR THAT HOTEL. WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT. SO WHAT OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE IS, ONE, WE STICK TO THE TRAILHEAD, THE GREENS AND TRAILS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS KIND OF BEEN OUR POSITION, AND THEN ALSO IF THERE IS A PROPOSED HOTEL THERE, THAT WE ANALYZE THAT FIRST. IT SEEMS WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK. COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOSH, WHERE TO BEGIN? SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I HAVE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL EXPERIENCE AND DID A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF STUDY AND WORK, DIFFERENT AIRPORTS. TO BE CLEAR, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, CLEAR ZONES ARE AROUND EVERY AIRPORT IN THE UNITED STATES. NOT JUST AIR FORCE BASE INSTALLATIONS. CLEAR ZONES ARE TWOFOLD. PROTECT ASSETS ON THE GROUND BUT ALSO PROTECT THE AIRCRAFT ASSETS. THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ESTABLISHED. THAT BEING SAID, I'M SORRY, BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF FUSS ABOUT VERY LITTLE. THIS IS A VERY LOW IMPACT PROJECT IN A CLEAR ZONE. I THINK I SAID IN THE FIRST HEARING THAT OUR AIRPORTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AND SPECIFICALLY THE AIR FORCE BASE DEVELOPED IN AN URBAN AREA. IDEAL SITUATION, THESE THINGS WOULD EXIST IN THE MIDDLE OF OKLAHOMA, WHICH SOME OF THEM DO. LARGE SWATHES OF LANDS AVAILABLE BUT REACH COMPROMISES. WHEN WE HAVE URBAN DEVELOPMENT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE RECORD, ON THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF THIS, TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING POLES. WE CAN'T RESTRICT MADAM CHAIR. PINE TREES CAN BE IN THESE AREAS. WE'RE NOT CLEAR CUTTING THIS PARCEL. THAT VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IS SPECIFICALLY TO PROTECT -- YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SAVE THE LIFE OF A LIGHT POLE. TRYING TO PROTECT THE AIRCRAFT OPERATION. BUT A TREE COULD BE THERE AT THE SAME EXACT TIME. NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 30-FOOT PINE TREE AND 30-FOOT LIGHT POLE. CORRECT? ANYBODY FOR THE RECORD? >> CORRECT, SIR. 30-FOOT OBSTRUCTION IS 30-FOOT OBSTRUCTION, MAN MADE OR NATURAL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECONDLY, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR CITY COUNCIL STAFF, MS. JOHNS, MAYBE. SOME LEGAL ADVICE. WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CITY'S POSITION AND THE DISPOSITION OF THIS LAND, THE AIR FORCE BASE, AGAIN, CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALL RESPECT THE MILITARY AND THE ROLE THE AIR FORCE BASE PLAYS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHAT AN ECONOMIC DRIVER IT IS AND FOR THE DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES. BUT FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF THE LAND THAT THEY OWN AND THIS LAND HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE AIR FORCE BASE'S CAPACITY HERE IS JUST ADVICE AND COUNSEL. THIS IS UP TO THE CITY TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT CORRECT? >>REBECA JOHNS: THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK THEY ACKNOWLEDGED AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING THAT THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECOMMENDATION. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. AND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S POSITION THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP THIS AS THIS PARK, SLASH, TRAILHEAD AND REACH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER. >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS CORRECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE ATTORNEY FOR THE AIR FORCE WAS YOU DISCUSSED THIS POTENTIAL HOTEL DEVELOPMENT, MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS, AGAIN, NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PARKING LOT AND THE PARK, BUT THE HOTEL, THIS PROPOSED HOTEL IS NOT IN THE CLEAR ZONE, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. TRUETT? >> CORRECT. JUST TO ADD BRIEFLY TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION, ALREADY A HOTEL THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A POTENTIAL SECOND HOTEL. THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE AT ALL. THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. MOST IMPORTANTLY TO THAT, THIS TRAILHEAD IS TIED TO OBTAINING THE C.O. FOR HOTEL ONE HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH HOTEL TWO. HOTEL TWO IS MERE SPECULATION IN THE FUTURE. WE'LL OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH THE BASE IF THAT IS THE PROPOSAL TO MAKE SURE IT FITS WITHIN THEIR HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I THINK THE CRITICAL THING, WHICH I THINK WAS MISSING OR DIDN'T CONNECT ON THE MEETING WE HAD ON MONDAY, IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS TRAILHEAD IS TIED TO HOTEL ONE, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOTEL TWO. MERE CONJECTURE AT THIS POINT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND, BEING IN AVIATION 32 YEARS OF MY LIFE, I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION AND THE PROPRIETARY POSITION OF THE AIR FORCE BASE PROTECTING THEIR TURF BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE TO REACH SOME SEMBLANCE OF COMPROMISE IN THE URBAN DEVELOPMENT, URBAN AREAS. FOR ME, BASED ON MY BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE, THIS IS A REALLY LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. POTENTIALLY AS LOW DENSITY AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY GET WITHOUT LEAVING IT AS BARREN LAND. I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY. SEEMS LIKE WHERE GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES GETS IN THE WAY OF ITSELF, BECOME BUREAUCRATIC AND ALLOW COMMON SENSE TO FLY OUT THE WINDOW, THAT, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TURNING THIS INTO A FAIRGROUNDS, NOT TURNING IT INTO DISNEY WORLD, NOT TURNING IT INTO THIS MAJOR PROJECT. IT LITERALLY IS A CIRCULAR PATH. I DON'T SEE 500 PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE CUTTING CIRCLES ON THE SIDEWALK ALL DAY LONG. WE'VE GOT, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IS BACKED UP WITH HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF CARS IN ANY GIVEN DAY. THE WELCOME CENTER, I THINK YOU SAID YOURSELF, THE MILITARY GRANTS -- GREAT PRIVILEGE TO HAVE TO SAY WHEN IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AIR FORCE BASE. HAVE TO THANK, TOO, THE AIR FORCE BASE, DEVELOPMENT OF HOTELS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE WITH MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IS VISITORS AND STAFF THAT ARE COMING IN TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE IN HOTELS AND HAVING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S GOOD FOR MacDILL. GOOD FOR TAMPA. GOOD FOR THE AREA. THAT'S MY POINT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU. I COULDN'T DISAGREE MORE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE DON'T NEED TO COMPROMISE. WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T NEED TO COMPROMISE. WE ARE COMPROMISING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BASE, IN MY VIEW, BY DOING THIS. I'M AN AVID TRAIL USER. TRAIL HEADS DO NOT HAVE CIRCULAR PATHS. THEY DO NOT HAVE BENCHES. TRAILHEADS THREE HAVE A SIGN THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE YOU'RE GOING. I DO NOT THINK A TRAILHEAD IS A GOOD IDEA. THE OTHER THING TRAILHEADS HAVE, HE'S CORRECT, PARKING. ANY PARK YOU GO TO. I MEAN, I GO PAST HENRY OLA EVERY DAY WITH MY DOG. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAMP THERE. I DON'T CALL THEM OUT. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THEY MOVE FROM PARK TO PARK BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE CARS OVER TIME. IF YOU PUT A PARKING SPACE, SOMEONE IS GOING TO USE IT. I AM FINE WITH IT SIMPLY BEING A PATH THROUGH LIKE IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE. BUT MY OTHER CONCERN IS THE CONCERN THAT, WELL, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. IF NOTHING IS PROVEN THIS WEEK, A HUNDRED YEARS SINCE A HURRICANE HAS COME THROUGH, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT HAPPENS NEXT WEEK? A JET DOESN'T MAKE -- THE THING ABOUT CONTROLLING ACCESS IS ONCE YOU JOIN THE MILITARY, YOU BELONG TO THE MILITARY. IF THE MILITARY TELLS YOU TO BE IN THAT SPACE AS A WELCOME CENTER, THAT'S THEIR JOB. THEY HAVE TO DO IT. EVEN IF IT IS A DANGER ZONE. THAT'S WHAT THE MILITARY IS. THAT'S WHAT AGREEING TO BE A PART OF THE MILITARY IS. I AM JUST SHOCKED THAT PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH THIS. I WOULD LOVE AND APPRECIATE IF THE DEVELOPER -- I DO NOT WANT TO BE CREATING THIS HERE ON THE DAIS. I BELIEVE IT SHOULD GO BACK AND YOU ALL SHOULD FIGURE IT OUT, HOW TO HAVE NO LOOP, HOW TO SIMPLY HAVE A PATHWAY THROUGH JUST LIKE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT. I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT DO ANYTHING THAT COMPROMISES THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BASE. I AM NOT WILLING TO PUT ANYONE IN DANGER WHO SITS AT A BENCH, LIVES OUT OF A CAR. I'M SIMPLY NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I'M ACTUALLY SHOCKED THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO THINK THAT COMPROMISE IS SOMETHING THAT'S ABLE TO BE DONE HERE. A COMPROMISE IS SIMPLY STICKING WITH WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE, WHICH WAS SIMPLY A TRAIL, NO LOOP, NO BENCH, NO OPEN BASE BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU LEAVE OPEN SPACE, PEOPLE WILL USE IT. THEY JUST SIMPLY WILL. MY OTHER OPTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BASE WOULD BE WILLING TO BUY THE LAND. I WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL IT. I AM WILDLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IF, BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH A WHAT-IF. AND IT WASN'T PRETTY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHAT YOU'RE MISSING, THERE ARE NO ABSOLUTES, ESPECIALLY IN AVIATION. I THINK THE AIR FORCE BASE WOULD RECOGNIZE THIS AS WELL, THAT IT IS A LOT OF RISK BENEFIT ANALYSIS. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HUNDRED PERCENT SAFE AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS. YOU RUN THE RISK -- THERE ARE SAFETY RISKS IN EVERY OPERATION YOU RUN. THEN YOU DO ANALYSIS BASED ON THE BENEFITS AND THE RISK. AND I THINK -- THAT'S IN EVERYTHING BECAUSE AGAIN WE'RE IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE OPERATING HIGH PERFORMANCE, HIGH SPEED AND SOMETIMES DANGEROUS AIRCRAFT SPECIFICALLY AT AN AIR FORCE BASE. LOOK AT TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT. WE HAVE VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT AROUND TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. THEY DO PROTECT CLEAR ZONES AND THINGS BUT STILL A LOT OF RISK INVOLVED WITH AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS. THERE IS NO ABSOLUTES. YOU HAVE TO SAY WHAT THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF RISK THAT WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A HIGH-RISE, NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE 24/7. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A REALLY, REALLY LOW DENSITY. I MEAN, AGAIN OTHER THAN LEAVING IT AS FERAL LAND FOR CHIPMUNKS OR SQUIRRELS, I DON'T THINK YOU COULD GET ANY LOWER DENSITY THAN THIS. AGAIN, THERE IS A BENEFIT TO NOT JUST THE AIR FORCE BASE. THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA OF HAVING HOTEL ON THIS PROPERTY. IT'S A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THE AIR FORCE BASE, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE. BACK TO THE VISITOR CENTER, THE VISITOR CENTER IS NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP FOR THE MILITARY. THAT VISITOR CENTER IS FOR FOLKS DOING BUSINESS. HAVE TO ASSUME THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE COMING ON THE BASE ARE NOT MILITARY FOLKS. PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE MILITARY, VISITORS WITH THE MILITARY, THE CONTRACTORS. IT'S A CITY UNTO ITSELF. SO PEOPLE ARE PASSING THROUGH THAT WELCOME GATES AND WELCOME CENTERS. A LOT OF FOLKS TRANSITIONING THROUGH THE AREA. NOT JUST ENLISTED MILITARY FOLKS. >> I'LL REBUT AT THE END. I WAS JUST GETTING AROUND HERE. >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. COLONEL McGHEE. MISSION SUPPORT GROUP COMMANDER AT MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. NOT ONLY 28-YEAR VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY SINCE 1973. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE. I'VE HEARD A LOT A VISITOR CONTROL CENTER AND TRAFFIC. TWO THINGS I'M FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. I'VE NEVER SEEN THEM SO POPULAR BEFORE. I CAN TELL YOU, BOTH OF THOSE THINGS YOU MENTIONED, NOBODY WANTS TO BE IN THEM. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN TRAFFIC. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE VISITOR CONTROL CENTER. I MOVE PEOPLE THROUGH THE VISITOR CONTROL CENTER. I'M TRYING TO USE THE THEORY CONSTRAINT TO MOVE THEM THROUGH IN UNDER TEN MINUTES. DON'T WANT THEM AGGREGATING THERE. DON'T WANT PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC. IF YOU SAW THE TRAFFIC YESTERDAY AS ONE OF OUR MEMBERS MENTIONED, I WAS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. I WAS RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE WE KEPT THE BAYSHORE GATE CLOSED BECAUSE WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH BARRIERS. THERE ARE ALWAYS OTHER REASONS WHY THINGS HAPPEN. WHAT WE FOCUS ON IN THE MILITARY, WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, WHICH, FOR ME, THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE, SAFETY AND RELATIONSHIPS. I'LL FOCUS ON SAFETY FIRST. FOR SAFETY, EVERYTHING IS MEASURED BASED -- YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS FROM YOUR TIME AT THE FAA -- BASED ON PROBABILITY AND SEVERITY OF RISK. AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE NO MATTER WHERE YOU SIT, AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT IS A TEN ON SEVERITY. THE PROBABILITY USING HISTORY AT MacDILL IS PROBABLY A ZERO OR EVEN A ONE. BUT AS YOU START TO INCREASE THE PROBABILITY THAT ONE WILL HAPPEN OVER TIME, DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, WE HAD AN F-16, BY THE WAY, IN THIS COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS A MEMBER OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BACK IN THE '90s, F-16 WENT RIGHT THROUGH A CESSNA, KILLED A MEMBER. I GOT IT -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS IN THE CONTROL ROOM THAT DAY. >> SOMEHOW WE'RE CONNECTED IN SOME OF THE CHAOS. ALSO AS A MEMBER THAT SAT IN THE PORT MORTUARY DOVER, DELAWARE, ONLY PORT MORTUARY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AFTER AN AIRPLANE HIT A BUILDING CALLED THE PENTAGON, NOT REALLY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE WHAT AN AIRPLANE DOES TO A HUMAN BODY. CAN I SHARE THAT WITH YOU -- I CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU. IF I SAID, HEY, COLONEL McGHEE IS ASKING ONE THING, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE VOTED. IF WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE WE RESOLVE IT BETWEEN OURSELVES. HERE IS WHY. THERE IS A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AND MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. I SEE THAT AS WELL BETWEEN THE BASE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA. WHEN I WALKED IN HERE, THERE WERE A BUNCH OF FLAGS ACROSS THE STREET. THE FIRST ONE WAS A U.S. FLAG, THEN A STATE FLAG, CITY FLAG AND THEN I THINK IT SAID HILTON HOTEL. EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN 28 YEARS FIGHTING WARS AND BATTLES IN COMBAT, COMES DOWN TO THREE THINGS FEAR HONOR AND INTEREST. MY INTEREST AS THE SUPPORT COMMANDER AT THAT BASE IS SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST OF PUTTING A TRAILHEAD THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTEREST IS. THERE ARE A MILLION OTHER PLACES. AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE WE CAN USE ANOTHER MILLION TRAILHEADS. I'M NOT CONCERNED AS MUCH ABOUT THAT. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT WILL CONTINUE TO THE POINT WHERE PROBABILITY STARTS TO GO AS HIGH AS SEVERITY. MY RECOMMENDATION IS LET US DISCUSS THE IMPASSE AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION ABOUT WHAT THIS TRAILHEAD, PASS-THROUGH SHOULD LOOK LIKE. IF WE CAN'T, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND WE COME BACK ANOTHER TIME AND SAY WE COULD NOT RESOLVE. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW TALKING TO MY TEAM AND I HAVE A MILLION OTHER THINGS I'M TRYING TO GET A BASE OUT FROM UNDERWATER, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. MacDILL HAS BEEN TO TWO BARACKS. THEY ARE IMPORTANT AND SO ARE THE RELATIONSHIPS. OVER 19,000 PEOPLE AND ABOUT $1.1 BILLION A YEAR OF SUPPORT TO THIS COMMUNITY. MacDILL IS THE COMMUNITY. WHEN MacDILL SAYS WE HAVE A CONCERN WITH SAFETY AND WE HAVE FOLKS THAT SAY WE WANT TO BRING IN A TRAILHEAD, LET US TRY AND RESOLVE THAT BETWEEN US RATHER THAN BRING IT TO A VOTE OF FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE AS INTERESTED AS WE ARE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT BOTH SIDES HAVE SAID. POSSIBILITY PROBABILITY OR PROBABILITY, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE AND LOOKING AT AND I REMEMBER FROM THE LAST TIME WE MET, I THINK EVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAID WHY BUILD THE PARK. NO ONE WILL BE THERE, SOMETHING TO THAT CONVERSATION. I THINK THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS, BOTH SIDES, MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE PETITIONER OUGHT TO MEET TOGETHER AND COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. I THINK POSSIBLY THIS COULD BE WORKED OUT. I'M JUST THINKING FROM WHAT I HEARD ON BOTH SIDES. I THINK THIS COULD BE RESOLVED IF THERE WAS NO PARK AND IT WAS JUST A POINT TO GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B ON THE TRAIL LIKE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED MANY YEARS BACK WHEN THERE WAS NO TRAIL REALLY. IT WAS JUST DESIGNED THAT WAY AND COMING TOGETHER NOW. THAT'S JUST MY FEELING THAT I SEE BOTH SIDES ENERGIZED TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM. LIKE WANTING TO GET MARRIED. MAYBE YOU GOT TO GET DIVORCED ALSO. WHAT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT HUMOROUS. TRYING TO MAKE THIS THING OPERATIONAL SO BOTH SIDES ARE HAPPY AND MacDILL IS HAPPY AND SO IS THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR. IF THE VISITOR CENTER WASN'T THERE AND THE MILITAR DIDN'T HAVE A WAIVER FOR IT. I REALLY, YOU KNOW, WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE. BUT BECAUSE IT IS THERE, IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO ARGUE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE CLEAR ZONE, THAT IS A TRAILHEAD AND A PARKING LOT. HARD TO ARGUE THAT POINT AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUIN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE BECAUSE WE MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THESE FOLKS FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT IS REASONABLE ALREADY, THAT HAS BEEN DONE. THE MILITARY BASE, MacDILL IS JUST NOT WILLING TO BUDGE. THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE FOR ME. I THINK THEY HAVE GONE BACK TIME AND TIME AGAIN EVEN WITH OUR STAFF TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE. AND MacDILL IS NOT INTERESTED IN IT AT ALL. THE THING THAT GETS THEM IN THE POSITION THAT THEY ARE IN WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY IS THAT THEY RECEIVED A WAIVER WITHIN THEIR OWN ORGANIZATION TO JUSTIFY THE WELCOME CENTER OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. BUT IT'S STILL A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CONGREGATE, EVEN IF THEY ARE ONLY THERE FOR TEN MINUTES. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S STILL PEOPLE THERE. THAT'S WHERE THEY COME THROUGH IN LARGE NUMBERS TO ENTER THE BASE. TAKING AWAY A PARKING LOT ANDW,- NOT BUILDING A TRAILHEAD WHEN YOU HAVE FOLKS THERE ALL THE TIME. YET YOU GET TO CONTROL THAT SITUATION, OF COURSE, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE MILITARY. BUT IF YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, THEN IF THERE WERE A SITUATION THAT IS ADJACENT TO YOU ALL, YOU WOULD INFORM THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S HOW I SEE IT. I THINK THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S REASONABLE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE PETITIONER, TO MR. GARDNER. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD CONTINUED THIS TO GIVE PEOPLE MORE TIME TO MEET, I THINK IF I COULD FORM A NARRATIVE AND NOT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HERE ON THIS NARRATIVE, I'M GOING TO SAY, IT SEEMS TO BE THAT YOUR PROJECT IS VERY PASSIVE IN NATURE BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE CONCERNS. I THINK A POSSIBLE MEANS TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, I'M SUPPORTIVE. WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE. BUT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL MEETINGS TO AT LEAST GIVE THAT SOME DEFERENCE. I PUT THAT OUT THERE, HOW WOULD YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> TRUETT GARDNER, FOR THE RECORD. FIRST AND FOREMOST IT PAINS ME THAT WE'RE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE BASE. I ALWAYS AND MY CLIENT HAVE ALWAYS VIEWED THIS AS REALLY IT IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT TO ME IT IS A TRIPARTY PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MY CLIENT AND THE BASE. THAT SAID, IT WAS CONFOUNDING TO HAVE THIS MEETING LAST WEEK WHERE THIS PARK HAS BEEN DESIGNED OR TRAILHEAD HAS BEEN DESIGNED IN A VERY PASSIVE MANNER AND TO THROW OUT ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE PASSIVE ONLY TO BASICALLY BE TOLD YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. I'M SAYING ALL THIS BECAUSE I THINK LIKE THE BASE CAN GIVE THE WAIVER ON THE VISITOR CENTER, IT'S COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY TO GRANT THIS APPROVAL BASED ON THE BASE'S RECOMMENDATION. I THINK WHAT IS CONFOUNDING AND PERHAPS IF IT'S YOUR PLEASURE, YOU CAN PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE GOING INTO THIS NEXT MEETING WHICH I THINK WOULD BE FINE, BUT I WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. THIS IS 2005 WHEN THE CITY RECEIVED THE PROPERTY AND HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK, ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE LAND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE OTHER GRANTS AND CITY FUNDS TO DEVELOP THE LAND FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND LOW DENSITY RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. FURTHER, THE ACQUISITION OF THIS LAND WILL PRESERVE THE OPERATIONAL CAPABILITIES OF THE MacDILL LINE MISSION, PROVIDE A GREENSPACE BUFFER BETWEEN THE BASE AND THE COMMUNITY, AND PROVIDE MORE PARKS AND RECREATION PROPERTY TO THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY. THEN WE GET INTO -- I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAD A GREAT POINT ON TRAILHEAD, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. NOT TRYING TO DO A PARK. A TRAILHEAD AND THIS IS UNDER THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN, IS DEFINED AS THE STARTING OR DESTINATION POINTS FOR GREENWAY AND TRAIL USERS TYPICALLY PROVIDING PARKING AND SUPPORT FACILITY. AS MR. RODRIGUEZ SAID, THEY DID NOT WANT VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE POLICY, NO VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE PERMITTED IN THE AREA, MAPPED ON THE ADOPTED 2040 LAND USE MAP AS THE CLEAR ZONE. WHEN WE THINK OF VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT AND REPRESENTING DEVELOPERS, WE THINK OF F.A.R. AND BUILDINGS. I THINK FURTHER THAN THAT, IT COULD BE RESTROOMS. IT COULD BE PAVILIONS. IT COULD BE THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A TRAILHEAD, AND WE WENT TO THE BASE, TO THAT MEETING ON MONDAY IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE TO EVEN MAKE THIS MORE PASSIVE. I THINK THE FRUSTRATION THAT WE WERE HAVING AND MAYBE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HAVING, IS WE CAN'T SEEM TO GET ANYWHERE. WITH THAT AGAIN I'LL DEFER TO MY CLIENT ON THE WILLINGNESS TO MEET. I JUST WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COME FROM AN UNREASONABLE POSITION. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO YES, BUT WE KEEP BEING MET WITH MORE AND MORE OBSTACLES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH. >> BRIAN FUNK, DEVELOPER. I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT FOR CONTEXT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. THE DEFENSIVE STRUCTURE GRANT APPLICATION FORM INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE IN THE RESOLUTION 2005-699 BECAUSE IT IS THE WAY THE CITY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT MAKES THREE MATERIAL STATEMENTS, WHICH SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PLAN BEFORE THE CITY TODAY. SECTION 4-1, QUESTION NUMBER FIVE, SUMMARY OF PROJECT STATES, QUOTE, THE IDENTIFIED PARCELS ARE WITHIN THE CLEAR ZONE OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE. THIS WAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD AND CREATED THE EXCEPTION. THEY WANT TO USE THE WORD EXCEPTING. THIS EXCEPTION ALREADY BEEN CREATED. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS SORT OF THE ONE-ARM FISHERMAN THAT CAUGHT THE FISH THIS BIG, WHILE WE DON'T DENY THE CLEAR ZONE AS APPLICATION, THAT IS AN INCOMPLETE PART OF THE STORY. SORRY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET TOGETHER SOONER. THAT CARVES OUT THE EXEMPTION. DELIBERATED ON, LOWEST INTENSITY USE WE COULD COME UP WITH. IN THE EVENT THAT THE PARTIES, INTENT OF THE PARTIES WASN'T ALREADY SPECIFICALLY STATED, CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SAME BOOK REFERENCED BY MR. RODRIGUEZ STATES TITLE 32, SECTION 256.3, C-3, AIR INSTALLATION COMPATIBLE USE ZONES, FOLLOWING DESCRIPTIONS OF ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONES ARE GUIDELINES ONLY. STRICT APPLICATION WOULD RESULT IN INCREASING THE SAFETY OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC BUT WOULD NOT PROVIDE COMPLETE PROTECTION AGAINST THE EFFECTS OF AIRCRAFT ACCIDENTS. SUCH A DEGREE OF PROTECTION IS PROBABLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE. SAFETY IS A RELATIVE TERM, END QUOTE. SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT. MULTIPLE LAYERS OF LATITUDE TO EFFECTUATE THIS. THIS IS LOW INTENSITY. WE ALREADY MET WITH THEM. WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS TWO YEARS CANDIDLY. IT WAS A VERY UNREASONABLE APPROACH. WE FEEL THIS IS REASONABLE. NOT DOING ANYTHING TO DENY THE MILITARY. BOTH GRANDFATHERS FULL COLONELS. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING TO DIS-- EXCUSE ME, NICE CRESCENDO FROM WHAT IS THE HOTEL COMPONENT WHICH AGAIN IS FOR THE BASE. WE HAVE NOTHING BUT YOU GUYS IN MIND. THAT'S WHO OUR CUSTOMER IS. SECOND HOTEL THAT YOU MENTIONED, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS WITHOUT THE PARK THE REASON, IT CLEANS UP THE AREA -- REASON WHY WE DO IT, IT CLEANS UP THE AREA AND HELPS US PERHAPS ADD SURFACE PARKING. NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T GO BACK, PROPOSE A BUILDING WITH PARKING UNDERNEATH, REQUEST A WAIVER AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS PARK AND LOOK LIKE THAT FOREVER. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY, FOR THE BASE, FOR EVERYBODY. SCALED IT DOWN A LOT. TELL SOMEBODY THEY CAN'T BE TIRED OVER THERE. WE'RE SPLITTING HAIRS HERE. SOMEBODY IS GOING TO USE THIS PROPERTY ANYWAY. SITTING THERE IN ABEYANCE. HERE I AM TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CITY. I'M NOT SURE WHY THERE IS A PROBLEM. DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A PROBLEM UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE RESOLUTION. OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO THINGS. TWO ITEMS, 67 AND 68, APPEARS TO BE TRAVELING TOGETHER. THESE ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT COUNCIL DOES DO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON BOTH THE ITEMS. YOU CAN COMBINE THEM AND DO THAT. ANOTHER REMINDER, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE AN 11:45 TIME CERTAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: TWO HOPEFULLY QUICK QUESTIONS. BRIAN, THE SUGGESTION FROM MacDILL IS THAT YOU ALL MEET AND COME BACK. >> WE JUST DID. >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE TIME DEADLINES THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT OR IS IT OKAY TO COME BACK? >> WE JUST MET WITH THEM THREE DAYS AGO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL CHANGE TO BE HONEST. CANDIDLY, WHY IT'S COMING UP NOW THE RESOLUTION, KIND OF QUESTION THE URGENCY OF THIS. I SAW AN E-MAIL FROM MR. RODRIGUEZ AUGUST 24. FIRST READING WAS SEPTEMBER 5. WE DIDN'T EVEN GET AN OBJECTION. SECOND READING WAS SEPTEMBER 19. DIDN'T GET THE OBJECTION TILL THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 18. I COULD HAVE COME TO THE READING TWO WEEKS AGO PREPARED LIKE THIS BUT WASN'T. WE HAD TO GO DIGGING TO CONFIRM WHAT WE ALREADY KNEW, WHICH IT HAS BEEN PROVIDED -- YOU'RE HONORING THE ORIGINAL AGREED TO AGREEMENT. MAYOR IORIO SIGNED IT. I'M PROVIDING THE FUNDING. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK MacDILL QUESTION. DO YOU OR T TRUETT HAVE A LAYOUT OR MAP OF THE PROPERTY? >> YES. >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, TO MacDILL, THEY HAVE ONE HOTEL ALREADY APPROVED. THERE IS A SECOND HOTEL HE'S PROPOSING. AS YOU SAID, IT WILL GO THROUGH A DIFFERENT PROCESS. THAT WILL BE SUBJECT TO FAA APPROVAL. >> SPEAK TO THAT SO NOBODY IS FREAKED OUT. LET'S ASSUME THE BIGGEST USE, THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT PARKING NEEDS ARE. WE CAN ALWAYS DO LESS, BUT IF NEED MORE AND COULD HAVE GONE BIGGER -- >>BILL CARLSON: POINT IS THAT S A SEPARATE PROCESS. MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PARK. MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED SELLING OR TRANSFERRING LET'S SAY WHAT WE WERE CALLING A PARK OR TRAILHEAD, LET'S SAY 100% CONTROL TO MacDILL. WHERE IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE TRIANGLE GOING ACROSS IT THAT SHOWS THE CLEAR ZONE? LET'S SAY THERE'S NO AMENITIES WHATSOEVER -- >> I HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ AS WELL AS THE AIRSPACE ANALYSIS. >>BILL CARLSON: THE QUESTION TO MacDILL. LET'S SAY YOU ALL HAVE HUNDRED PERCENT CONTROL OVER THAT PROPERTY, WHAT WE WERE CALLING A PARK OR TRAILHEAD AND YOU CAN DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD GO IN THERE. REALLY, THE QUESTION IS, THIS SMALL CORNER OF PARKING SPACES AND I THINK THE DEVELOPER, THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NICE AS AN AMENITY FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT THEY ARE REALLY INTERESTED LONG TERM IS HAVING PARKING FOR EXISTING OR FUTURE HOTEL. THEIR ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO GO OUTSIDE THAT TRIANGLE AND BUILD A MULTISTORY PARKING STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS SAFE, THERE IS A DEFINED CLEAR ZONE BUT ACCIDENTS DON'T ALWAYS STAY WITHIN THOSE DEFINITIONS. WOULD IT BE PREFERABLE TO MacDILL TO HAVE SOME SURFACE -- A FEW SURFACE SPACES THERE OR TO HAVE JUST OUTSIDE THE CLEAR ZONE A MULTISTORY PARKING STRUCTURE AND THEN IS THERE ANY WAY THAT MacDILL WOULD, IF GIVEN TOTAL CONTROL OVER WHAT GOES ON THE GREENSPACE, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT MacDILL WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW STATIONARY CARS WITHOUT PEOPLE IN THEM? >> CHRIS PARKER AGAIN. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE CLEAR ZONE, APZ 1, OUR POSITION IS ESSENTIALLY, AND IT HAS BEEN THE COMPROMISE, IS THE TRAILHEAD. WE PREFER THAT. IF YOU READ THAT STUDY, ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS THOSE SHOULD BE OPEN SPACES IN THE CLEAR ZONE OR AGRICULTURAL. GOING BACK TO 2005 IS WE THOUGHT THE INTENDED USE. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE. IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS BECAUSE OF FUNDING AND APPROPRIATIONS. BUT OUR USE WOULD BE EITHER TO HAVE IT AS IS OR IF IT IS A CONNECTION TO THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT TRAILHEAD, WE WOULD PREFER THAT. AS TO YOUR QUESTION, THE CLEAR ZONE IS THE AREA WHERE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS STRONGEST. IT'S WE WANT TO KEEP THAT CLEAR. IT'S IN THE NAME FOR A REASON. OUTSIDE OF THAT, I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, HEY, THERE ARE CONCERNS, AND WE TELL YOU THAT RISK. BUT WE WOULD BE MORE OKAY WITH THAT. THIS CLEAR ZONE, ESPECIALLY THAT PARKING AND THEN OBVIOUSLY A TRAIL THAT'S NOT KIND OF THE AGREED TO FROM THE LAST 20 YEARS USE OF THE CLEAR ZONE, IS WHAT WE'RE TAKING AN ISSUE WITH. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE MILITARY, WERE YOU GUYS AWARE, BEFORE YOU STARTED THIS OBJECTION, ABOUT WHEN THE LAND WAS ORIGINALLY TRANSFERRED THAT THESE QUESTIONS WERE BASICALLY ASKED AND ANSWERED AT THAT POINT, THAT THE USE -- THE VERBIAGE OF PARK AND THE VERBIAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER TODAY, WERE YOU GUYS AWARE OF ALL THAT? >> BACK IN THE 2005 TIME FRAME WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO GET THE STATE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE LAND, WE HAD AN ACTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS ALIGNMENT ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE BASE, AND WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS ACROSS DALE MABRY AND MAKE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN PINEWOOD AND MARCUM SO THEY COULD CONTINUE ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE BASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERBIAGE AGREED UPON INCLUDED PARKING, PARKS. >> I BELIEVE THE PARKS AND REC REFERENCE WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY RAN THE GREENWAYS AND TRAILS PROGRAM. AS FAR AS THE OTHER GRANTS THAT WERE REFERRED TO IN THE PREVIOUS STUFF ON THE ELMO. SO THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE SEA MACK, CONGESTION MITIGATION AIR QUALITY EVENT PROGRAM AND THAT'S HOW THEY WERE FUNDING A LOT OF THE GREENWAYS AND TRAIL. IT KIND OF DRIED UP. NO MORE FUNDING FOR THAT. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY AROUND McDETAIL WITH GREENWAYS AND TRAILS. HOPING THAT THE ONE CENT TRANSPORTATION TAX WAS GOING TO HELP US OUT AND REINVIGORATE THE TRAIL PROGRAM. WANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. CERTAINLY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY BECAUSE WE HAVE A 25-YEAR LEASE ALONG OUR NORTHERN BOUNDARY. WE HAVE TALKED TO PARKS AND REC ABOUT DOING SOMETHING AT THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE BASE. TRYING TO GET THAT CONNECTION FROM MacDILL OVER TO PICNIC ISLAND. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED AND ANSWERED IN 2005. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. THE USE OF THE PROPERTY QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BENEFIT AGREEMENT, NOT NECESSARILY THE USE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, JUST A REMINDER, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT TIED TO A REZONING. IT IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL. IT IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER. >> CAN I GET 30 SECONDS, PLEASE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE SUCH LITTLE TIME. >> I HAVE A MUST SAY AND CAN SAY. MUST SAY, THANKS TO YOUR FAMILY FOR SERVICE. I NEVER MET HIM BEFORE. BEEN ON THE GROUND 90 DAYS AS MISSION SUPPORT GROUP COMMANDER AND I AM WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND COME TO A RESOLUTION. I'M ASKING FOR TIME TO SIT DOWN. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. I HAVE NEVER MET WITH THEM UNTIL NOW. THREE DAYS AGO I WAS IN MISSION ESSENTIAL TRYING TO GET ELECTRICITY AND WASTEWATER TO WORK AT THE BASE SO WE COULD BRING OUR FOLKS BACK ON. THAT WAS THE PRIORITY. THIS IS NOW TAKING MY PRIORITY. I'M ASKING FOR TWO WEEKS TO GET IT IN MY CALENDAR OR I CAN SIT DOWN WITH THEM, INVITE THEM ON TO THE BASE, GET THEM THROUGH THE VISITOR CENTER IN LESS THAN TEN MINUTES, BRING THEM ON THE TEAM TO SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A RESOLUTION WITHOUT ANY OTHER FOLKS BEING INVOLVED SAYING NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THIS WAY. BECAUSE WE BOTH GO AWAY UPSET. I THINK WE CAN COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS TO SAY WE'VE COME TO A RESOLUTION. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] PUBLIC COMMENT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE TWO PARTIES -- I THINK THEY ARE COMING VERY CLOSE TO A MARRIAGE HERE. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE THE BEST INTEREST OF BOTH SIDES TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DETAILS TODAY TO FILL A RECORD BOOK. BUT I THINK BOTH PARTIES I CAN SEE BY THE SMILE ON THE FACE, CHANGE ATTITUDE. LOOK AT BODY LANGUAGE AND THEY ARE READY. >> ONE MORE THING IN THE RECORD THAT WAS MISSING AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT CONTEXTUALLY IS THE AIRSPACE ANALYSIS. DONE BY THE FAA. THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL OVERLAY. WHILE THE CLEAR ZONE OPERATES IN A BOX, TWO DIMENSIONS, WHAT THIS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT I GUESS IS AS A PLANE DESCENDS, THE LIKELIHOOD IT WOULD CRASH IN THE AREA. THESE LINES ARE TEN FOOT INCREMENTS. IT'S SAYING AT THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE, GO TO 79 FEET. WHAT WE'RE SAYING TODAY IT IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR TO PUT SOME BENCHES AND CARS HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THAT IS SUCH A QUANTUM LEAP. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ALL CAN WORK IT OUT SOMEHOW. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. >> YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 17th LOOKS LIKE IT IS OPEN. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, PROBABLY MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO OCTOBER 17. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND BUT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. MS. POYNOR, COME ON UP. THIS IS ON THE CONTINUANCE. >> GOOD MORNING. STEPHANIE POYNOR. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE BASE HAD BEEN NOTIFIED AT LEAST 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE AS WITH EVERY OTHER LAND USE CHANGE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE WOULDN'T BE PLAYING LAND DEVELOPMENT AT CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS A PROBLEM CREATED BY OUR CURRENT CODE, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY ATTORNEYS COULD MAKE THIS DEAL WITH NO INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS, NO INPUT FROM ONE OF OUR LARGEST ECONOMIC ENGINES IN THE CITY. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FIVE YEARS FOR SOUTH OF GANDY. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY SHOW UP IN UNIFORM BEFORE. MR. RODRIGUEZ HAS ONLY BEEN HERE ONCE BEFORE TO MY KNOWLEDGE TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO AT THIS POINT, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE UP HERE, MR. CLENDENIN IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO GETS A PAYCHECK FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS. SO YOU HAVE NO EXPERTS FROM THE CITY WHO HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS. JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAD TO DEAL WITH CHEMICAL FORMULATORS, YOU HAD NO EXPERTS TO ADVISE YOU PROPERLY. I DON'T CARE WHAT REAL ESTATE SAID, THEY ARE NOT EXPERTS IN FLIGHT ZONES. ONLY PERSON WHO IS MR. CLENDENIN. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE DOD IN THEIR LITTLE OFFICE OUTSIDE THE GATE, GUESS WHAT, IF A PLANE CRASHES INTO IT, THE DOD HAS A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT MORE MONEY THAN THE COT. YOU JUST SET YOURSELVES UP. IF YOU VOTED FOR THIS TODAY, YOU WOULD BE SETTING YOURSELVES UP FOR LAWSUITS IF IT EVER DOES HAPPEN. JUST LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD NEVER, EVER HAPPENED, HAPPENED IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS. WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. I THINK THAT THESE FOLKS NEED TIME TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM TIME TO WORK ON THAT. BUT THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE. THIS IS A FLAWED PROCESS. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SHOULD NOT BE DONE IN THE DARK WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ECONOMIC ENGINES THAT RESIDE NEXT TO THEM. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE -- WAIT. YES, SIR, COME ON UP. >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA. WELL INTENDED AND NICE PEOPLE THAT SIT UP THERE, HONORABLE, DECENT PEOPLE. THEY ARE DECENT FOLKS. AND ANYBODY WHO SITS IN THOSE CHAIRS, IN THOSE EIGHT CHAIRS SPECIFICALLY ARE REALLY NICE AND DECENT INDIVIDUALS. THEY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE OR THEIR POLITICAL PERSUASION OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SO IT MUST BE THE CHAIRS. IT MUST BE SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHAIRS THAT MAKES THEM COMPLETELY STUPID. IT MUST BE WHEN THEY SIT IN THE CHAIRS THEY BECOME STUPID. ANY PERSON TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OFF OF MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN REFERENCE TO A SAFETY HAZARD, IT'S LIKE THE MECHANIK TELLING YOU, HEY, MAN, DON'T DRIVE THE CAR. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, HEY, DON'T DO THAT. IT'S A FIRE HAZARD. A MILITARY ORGANIZATION IS TELLING YOU, HEY, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA AND SOMEONE WHO HAS PROBABLY NEVER BEEN IN THAT AREA -- I LIVE DIRECTLY OUTSIDE THE BASE ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, OFF OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD. IF YOU SEE THE TRAFFIC THERE, OFF OF MacDILL OR OFF OF DALE MABRY, IT'S STUPID FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT IF SOMEONE IS ADVISING YOU WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF, HEY, DON'T DO IT OR GO SLOW, THE CITY IS ALWAYS WITH THE CRAZINESS, IT MORE THAN LIKELY THE BACKGROUND STORY IS A DEVELOPER IS TELLING YOU, HEY, THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO START. NEXT THING YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE CONCRETE JUNGLE LIKE SOUTH TAMPA RIGHT NOW. RAIN, DIFFERENT PROBLEMS, LIKE REAL ISSUES. WHO WOULD THINK WHAT HAPPENED ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD. IT'S NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE STORM, IT'S BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE'S NO PROPER DRAINAGE SYSTEM. NO PROPER PLANNING SYSTEM. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BASE WHERE WE'RE TALKING MAYBE HAVE TO EVACUATE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, IT CAN'T BE THE RATIONALE OF THE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GOOD-HEARTED AND GOOD-INTENDED AND HERE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. IT MUST BE THE CHAIRS THAT DO SOMETHING. A LOT OF GOOD PARENTS AND A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE. A LOT OF GOOD CHRISTIAN PEOPLE OUT THERE, BUT IT MUST BE WHEN THEY GO TO THE STRIP CLUBS AND PROSTITUTES DO SOMETHING TO THEM AND THE DANCERS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE WITH A SECOND. TO OCTOBER 17. WHAT IS THE TIME? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 10:30. >>LYNN HURTAK: 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, 33602. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKER OF THE MOTION, WITH REGARD TO TIME CERTAIN, YOU SAW WHAT WE HAD TO DO TODAY, STOP AT 10:30 TO TAKE THE ITEM UP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIRD TIME, I THINK IT IS A REASONABLE THING TO DO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I OPPOSE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY NAY? >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE CLENDENIN, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK. IT WAS 6-1 WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE 67 AND 68. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WE HAVE A HARD STOP RIGHT NOW. CAN WE PICK UP WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH WITH PUBLIC COMMENT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ANSWER IS, YOU ADOPTED YOUR AGENDA TODAY WITH A HARD STOP AT 11:45. YOU'RE AT THAT POINT. YOUR QUESTION NOW IS, DO YOU WANT TO THEN TAKE WHATEVER -- ITEM 70 -- TAKE THAT UP. THEN WHAT HAPPENS, YOU WANT TO TAKE INSTEAD OF THE 1:30, 1:30 IS NOT A TIME CERTAIN. IF YOU MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU'LL TAKE -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S CONTINUED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, IF WE COULD JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE TV SCREENS UP ABOVE. OH YES. >> I'VE KNOWN CHARLIE OVER 50 YEARS. WE WERE RAISED IN THE SAME YBOR CITY NEIGHBORHOOD CHARLIE LIVED IN, WHAT WE CALL THE PROJECTS WHICH IS BASICALLY SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. I WAS A BLOCK AWAY FROM CHARLIE. HAD TWO BEAUTIFUL SISTERS. I HAPPENED TO GO THROUGH SCHOOL FIFTH GRADE THROUGH THE 12th GRADE WITH HIS YOUNGER CITY YVONNE. [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU HAD ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT YOU SHOW UP. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DEBATE ME ON THAT TAX? >> NO, SIR, I WOULD NOT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO NAME THE STADIUM AFTER HIM. [ LAUGHTER ] >> WE'LL JUST KEEP IT MOVING HERE. IT IS SUCH AN HONOR FOR ME AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM HERE, CHARLIE, WE PAID NO ONE TO SHOW UP. >> I DID. >>MAYOR CASTOR: OKAY. THERE YOU GO WITHOUT A DOUBT. WHAT AN OCCASION. TOMORROW IT WILL BE OCTOBER 4, 1974 IS WHEN A VERY YOUNG CHARLIE MIRANDA WALKED IN, WAS SOUTSWORN IN AND TOOK A SEAT ONT VERY DAIS. SERVED SAME SEAT, MAYBE THE SAME CHAIR -- WELL, WE'VE CHANGED CHAIRS A FEW TIMES. BUT ANYWAY, WE DO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT INCREDIBLE INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENT. FOR THREE OF THE FIVE DECADES YOU HAVE SERVED THIS COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT WITH A LEVEL OF CIVILITY, RESPECT, DIGNITY. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN TO BE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT ISN'T AFRAID TO COMPROMISE. YOU LISTEN TO EVERYONE. YOU KNOW THIS CITY. YOU KNOW THE ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. AND QUITE OFTEN YOU ARE THE VOICE OF REASON. EXCEPT WHEN IT COMES TO BASEBALL. YOU REALLY ARE. IT IS TRUE WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS SAID BEFORE, AND THAT IS ALWAYS ON YOUR SIGN. WHO CARES? CHARLIE CARES. AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT AND THEY RESPECT THAT AND THEY ADMIRE YOU FOR IT. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF OTHERS. I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING KIND, OF LISTENING, AND YOUR DUTIES AS A LEADER, THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES TO WORK HARD EVERY DAY, TO LIFT OUR CITY UP, AND TO GROW IT TO THE POTENTIAL THAT WE KNOW THAT IT HAS. SO I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. I KNOW EVERYONE IS HERE TO THANK YOU AS WELL. BUT I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS SOME INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BUSINESS TO DO HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO ITEM NUMBER 70, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE AGENDA, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING. IT'S APPROVING THE NAMING OF THE BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. I WANTED TO SECOND. [ LAUGHTER ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BETWEEN OLD CITY HALL AND TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING OUTSIDE TO BE NAMED CHARLIE MIRANDA PLAZA IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA AND HIS ALMOST 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS AS A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY LEADER. WHO WOULD LIKE TO READ? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE TO EXCUSE MYSELF. I MIGHT BE CONTRADICTING SOME LAW. [ LAUGHTER ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: JEFFERSON DRAGON TERRITORY HERE. WITH GREAT PLEASURE, FILE NUMBER HL24-9126, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, APPROVING THE NAME OF THE BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD LOCATED BETWEEN OLD CITY HALL AND THE TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AS THE "CHARLIE MIRANDA PLAZA" IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA, JEFFERSON DRAGON, AND HIS ALMOST 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND ITS CITIZENS AS A MEMBER OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE NUNC PRO TUNC AS OF OCTOBER 3, 2024. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AYE. [ LAUGHTER ] LET ME JUST SAY THIS, WHEN SHE SAID JEFFERSON DRAGON, PEOPLE ASK ALL THE TIME, WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO? GO TO HIGH SCHOOL? I SAY I NEVER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL. I WENT TO JEFFERSON. THE REASON FOR THAT, ONLY THREE HIGH SCHOOLS, HILLSBOROUGH, PLANT JEFFERSON. WE HAD TO COMPETE IN TRACK. DIDN'T HAVE A TRACK TO RUN ON BUT WE HAD TO COMPETE. COMPETE IN BASEBALL. DIDN'T HAVE A BASEBALL DIAMOND AT JEFFERSON. BEFORE I GOT THERE, THE BASKETBALL GUYS AND GIRLS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A BASKETBALL GYM. THEY HAD TO PRACTICE IN THE DORMITORY, A STAGE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM HERE. WE WERE ALWAYS UNDERRATED BUT WE WON A FEW, BUT IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE. HONOR TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO MANY GOOD PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE. I WAS VERY HONORED WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED IN '74, WORKED WITH KATHY BARGEA, FIRST FEMALE ELECTED AND TWINS. SANDY FREEDMAN. DUNCAN SAID HE COULDN'T READ. GIVE IT TO SANDY. SANDY PASSED TO ME. COULDN'T 1 THROUGH 80. HAD TO READ EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. I READ THE WHOLE THING AND HE TELLS ME, DID YOU SAY THE BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN THE SECOND ROW? I THOUGHT YOU TOLD ME YOU COULDN'T READ AND SEE. THOSE ARE THE THINGS I REMEMBER IN FREEDMAN AND PLATT. HONOR TO SERVE WITH ALL THE INDIVIDUALS. IT'S LIKE REALLY LIKE A DREAM. 50 YEARS IS A LONG TIME, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT REALITY, IT IS A BLINK OF AN EYE. PASSES SO QUICKLY. YOU HAVE TO ENJOY YOURSELF. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HURT ANYBODY'S FEELINGS. GO OUT AND LIVE YOUR LIFE BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME SAY THAT PEOPLE ASK ME, HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE CITY? WHEN YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL, YOU AND PAM IORIO AND THE MAYOR WERE THE FIRST TWO PEOPLE I TALKED TO THAT INSPIRED ME TO RUN. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. CONGRATULATIONS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS SO BEAUTIFUL GUIDO. [ LAUGHTER ] [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTE AND THE SECOND READING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT FOR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF GROUP SHOW UP FOR HIM, I LOOK OUT IN THE AUDIENCE AND I SEE BUSINESS LEADERS, SOME OF THE POWERHOUSE ATTORNEYS IN THE AUDIENCE. FORMER STATE SENATOR. WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE FORMER MAYORS AND A CURRENT MAYOR. DEPARTMENT HEADS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. I MEAN, THIS IS A WHO'S WHO. CONGRESS WOMAN KATHY CASTOR SITTING BACK THERE PRETTY IN RED AS ALWAYS. THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, CHARLIE. I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF BEING ABLE TO SERVE ON COUNCIL WITH YOU AND TO LEARN FROM YOU, TO ABSORB SOME OF YOUR WISDOM. AND TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME OF MY SENSE OF HUMOR TO YOU SINCE YOU SO LACK IT. IT'S A GIVE AND RECEIVE RELATIONSHIP HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE GO TO THE SAME BARBER. >>MAYOR CASTOR: I WILL SAY WE'RE NOT DONE, ALTHOUGH CHARLIE SERVED FOR 50 YEARS, I DON'T THINK THAT THE OUTDOOR FESTIVITIES ARE GOING TO GO ON FOR 50 YEARS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWNSTAIRS FOR LUNCH WITH EVERYONE. AND WE HAVE SOME FURTHER COMMEMORATIONS DOWN THERE AND GIFTS TO PROVIDE TO CHARLIE FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE. DID YOU NEED TO READ SOMETHING? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO IF YOU DON'T MIND, LIKE TO INTRODUCE MY FAMILY. WOULD YOU STAND UP? [ APPLAUSE ] IN THE BACK, YOU HAVE RYAN AND LUKE AND YOU HAVE MY SON FRANK AND YVETTE AND DINETTE AND TWO SISTERS, YVONNE AND OLGA. I THINK MOST OF THE GRANDCHILDREN HERE. MEGAN JILLIAN ERICA. I DON'T SEE WHO ELSE. BUT ALL HERE, I THINK. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO SUPPORTIVE. I USED ALL YOUR MONEY TO RUN FOR CAMPAIGNS SO THERE'S NOTHING LEFT. [ LAUGHTER ] >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE MAYOR SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER ALSO CONFIRMING THE NAME OF THE PLAZA IN CHARLIE MIRANDA'S HONOR. THAT NEEDS TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED AS PART OF THE RENAMING PROCESS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE THAT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PLEASE READ THE VOTE, CHARLENE, FOR THE SECOND READING AND EVERYTHING. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THERE WAS A NO. THAT WAS JUST A JOKE. OKAY. >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 7, 2024, AT 10 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30. 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