>> I NOW DECLARE TT T PLANO CITY COUNCIL MEET IS RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION THAT ALL COUNCILMEMBERS ARE PRESENT. OUR FIRST ITEM IS CONSIDERATION AND ACTION RESULTING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. RICK, DO YOU WANT TO DO IT OR -- YOU GUYS -- THANK Y'ALL. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YES, SO COUNCILMAN HOLMER, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF, COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI A IAVE CONFERRED, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. WE WILL HAVE KAREN MOVING FROM ALTERNATE TO REGULAR MEMBER. THEN WE WILL HAVE JANET PLOTKIN WILL BE SERVING AT ALTERNATE MEMBER. TWO INTERIM MEMBERS, DAVID PETERSON, THEN WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL RESIGNATION, SO WE'LL BE APPOINTING JAN TRUE TO FILL THE SLOT HELD BY MEMBER MATT MCSORLEY. >> Ricciardelli: HE HAD IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN, YOU DO THAT RICK. >> Smit : I CAN READ IT IF I WRITE IT DOWN. >> Mayor Muns: WE HAVE APPOINTMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND PLEASE. MOTION PASSES AND THE OTHER ONE IS HERITAGE COMMISSION. >> MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND I HAVE CONFERRED, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT NANCY BALDWIN AS THE CHAIR OF THE HERITAGE COMMISSION AND FOR THE THREE VACANCIES, APPOINT DEBORAH DIANE BARRIOS AND MICHAEL HOLLAND, AND ON THE THIRD VACANCY, WE WERE TRYING TODAY TO GET AHOLD OF THE APPLICANT, WE WERE PLANNING TO APPOINT FOR THAT, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO YET TO JUST ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS CONFIRMING THE APPOINTMENT, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, SO I WILL I GUESS SO MOVE TO APPOINT NANCY BALDWIN THE AIR, APPOINT DEBORAH DIANE BARRIOS, LEAVING ONE VACANCY FOR THE NEXT MEETING. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE HERITAGE COMMISSION. ALL IN FAVOR? DID YOU GET ALL THAT, LEASE LIS? ITEM TWO, PERSONNEL APPOINTMENTS, FIRST ONE IS ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> COUNCILMEMBER HORNE AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT TAMMY CIAO HAYS AS CHAIR OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANKS, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. THANKS SHELBY. THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT NICK HAGEL AND SHERRI COVIN LAVIGNE AS CHAIR OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. >> >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM, PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE HAD A RESIGNATION AND WE HAVE THAT APPOINTMENT AVAILABLE AND I WILL DO THAT ON OCTOBER 23RD. SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD >> Smith :, MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMEMBER HOLMER AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AND FOR THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT SHARI AS CHAIR, THEN WE HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS FIRST WILL BE GLORIA MARSH, AND FINALLY SEAN YAK. OKAY? >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: SECOND. A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD APPOINTMENTS,LL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES. AND THE LAST ONE IS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 4 BOARD. >> Ricciardelli: MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TU AND I HAVE CONFERRED ABOUT THIS, THE ONLY ISSUE IS REAPPOINTMENT OF THE CHAIR, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT SHEP STALL AS THE CHAIR AS THE TOURIST NUMBER 4 BOARD SO I WILL SO MOVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FORX INCREMENT FINANCING BOARD NUMBER 4, ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROCESS PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY EXECUTIVES, I'M LAURIE SCHWARZ, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIRECTOR, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR,D THE CITY TO ENGAGE AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT TO REVIEW OUR LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM. SO THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED JUST REVIEW OF THE CITY'S CURRENT HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION PROCESS TO CONDUCT SOME PUBLIC INPUT TO REVIEW OTHER BENCHMARK TEXAS CITIES AND TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT TO THE CITY'S PROGRAM. THE CITY SELECTED COMPTON CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO CONDUCT THIS STUDY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE PRESENTATION TO SEAN COMPTON SO THAT HE CAN REVIEW THEIR FINDINGS. >> COMPTON: MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY PRESENTATION TO YOU IS A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED EARER THIS MONTH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME NOW TO LISTEN TO THIS. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO PRESENT IT AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO AS MS. SCHWARZ JUST SAID, MY CHARGE WAS TO CONDUCT A INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE PLANO'S HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION PROCESS. THE DIRECTIVE THAT CAME FROM CITY MANAGER AND WAS VERY, VERY CLEAR FROM ALL THE STAFF WAS TO MAKE THIS A VERY IMPARTIAL, UNBIASED, UNPREJUDICED ASSESSMENT OF THE PROGRAM, AND I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO HOLD THAT AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT STAFF IS -- WORKING WITH STAFF THEY HAVE REALLY UPHELD THAT ASPECT AS WELL. AND THE STUDY PERIOD REALLY HAS BEEN ROBUST PERIOD OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS. I PROBABLY HAVE INTERVIEW ABOUT 50 PEOPLE PLUS, AND I RELIED ON MY PUBLIC/PRIVATE PLANNING EXPERIENCE BOTH ON A PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS WELL AS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, OR PRIVATE SECTOR, WORKING WITH CITIES THROUGHOUT CENTRAL TEXAS AND NORTH TEXAS, SO QUITE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH CITIES. THE STUDY APPROACH WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE, AND I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY TWO OVER THIS. WE -- I STARTED WITH, BY REEWING- 2022 PLANO APPLICATION AND THE CURRENT PROCESS. I INTERVIEWED ONE ON ONE EACH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, HAD A SESSION WITH CRC. I INTERVIEWED CITY STAFF LEADERSHIP WHO HAD BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH PREVIOUSLY AND CURRENTLY ON THE HOUSING TAX PROGRAM, AND THEN LOCAL AS WELL AS NORTH TEXAS TABLE SESSIONS.TWO ROUND I ALSO CONDUCTED A HIGH LEVEL PLANO SOCIOECONOMIC ASSESSMENT BEING FROM AUSTIN, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I GOT MY, YOU KNOW, A GOOD BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE PLANO ASSESSMENT. I THEN BENCHMARKED THE PROCESS OF FIVE CITIES, AND BY THAT I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT TO USE THEM AS BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER CITIES AND COMPARE THOSE TWO CITOF PLANO FOR BEST PRACTICES. I THEN REVIEWED THE CITY -- THE TDHCA'S STANDARDS AND HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY AND HTC TAX PROGRAM TO JUST GET CLARIFICATION AND GET QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND THEN I INTERVIEWED EXPERIENCED, WELL-QUALIFIED HTC DEVELOPERS, FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS, I THEN PREPARED MY FINDINGS, OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS REPORT, AND SUBMITTED THAT EARLIER THIS MONTH. SO I'D LIKE TO START AT THE HIGH LEVEL. THE TAKE AWAYS OF THE TDHCA HTA, HOUSING TAX PROGRAM, THE TDHCA STATE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTERS THE PROGRAM FOR THE US TREASURY. THE COMPLIANCE IS REQUIRED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HUD'S FAIR HOUSING ACT. TDHCA HAS VERY MUCH THE PRIMARY ROLE IN BOTH MANAGING AND DECISION-MAKING OF THE PROGRAM. CITIES HAVE A LIMITED ROLE. TDHCA SETS THE QAP, WHICH IS QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN, THE RULES, AND SUBMITTAL SCHEDULE, EVERY YEAR, AND EVERY YEAR I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL ROUND TABLES AT TDHCA, EVERY YEAR THEY TWEAK THE PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT SO EVERY YEAR THAT MEANS ALL THE CITIES IN TEXAS HAVE TO COME BACK AND TWEAK THEIR APPLICATIONS, TWEAK THEIR POLICIES, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BE BAKED INTO THE PROCESS OF ACKNOWLEDGED, I SHOULD SAY. AND THEN THE CITIES MUST ADOPT YEARLY POLICY AND APPLICATION TO COMPLY WITH THE LATEST TDHCA QAP RULES. I THEN SELECTED OR WENT TO A PROCESS OF BENCHMARKING CITIES, AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO BENCHMARK TEXAS CITIES THAT HAVE SOME APPLICANT TO PLANO, AND TO IDENTIFY BEST PRACTICES TO CONSIDER FOR PLANO'S PROGRAM, AND I STARTED WITH ABOUT 12 CITIES, AND I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF AWARDS THAT THESE CITIES HAVE, URBAN, STABLE CITIES, TRANSPARENT PROCESS TO THE PUBLIC FUNCTIONAL AND OBJECTIVE HTC APPLICATIONS, QUALITY MAPPING AND TOOLS THAT T THE CITIES PROVIDED, AND OUTWARD PROCESS WEBSITE FOR BOTH THE PUBLIC AND DEVELOPERS, AND SOME OF THESE HAD THE INCENTIVES THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO CONSIDER, AND SO OUT OF THESE THE SELECTED CITIES WERE FORT WORTH, DENTON, AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO, AND ARLINGTON, AND AGAIN I PREPARED A REPORT WITH FAIR AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT GOES INTO SOME OF THE TAKE AWAYS, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN TAKE AWAYS. THE APPLICATIONS VARY GREATLY. AND THESE ARE THE BENCHMARK CITIES. THERE'S NO UNIFORM CITY TEMPLATE FOR HTC APPLICATIONS, OR THE PROCESS THAT'S PRESCRIBED BY THE TDHCA, SO THAT MEANS THAT EVERY CITY, STAFF AND COUNCIL AND SO FORTH, REALLY IT'S UP TO THE CITY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE OR AS COMPLICATED OR STRAIGHTFORWARD, HOWEVER IT IS, THERE IS NOTHING PRESCRIBED, AND THERE'S NO POINTS AWARDED ON HOW SIMPLE OR COMPLICATED IT IS. IT'S -- AWARDS, POINTS AWARDED BASED ON THE OUTCOME, NOT ON THE PROCESS. SO EACH CITY ADMINISTERS THEIR OWN PROGRAMS. WHAT I FOUND IN THE BENCHMARK CITIES IS THAT THERE'S NO REZONING THAT'S REQUIRED PRIOR, OR BEFORE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OR NO OBJECTION. THEY ALL HAD HIGH TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PUBLIC INCLUDING CITY WEBSITES. NOW, ONEAVEAT, THE CITY OF PLANO HAD TAKEN DOWN THEIRS, THEIR PROGRAM WHEN I WAS BROUGHT ON BOARD, SO I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE A POINT OF COMPARISON. BUT HAVING A HIGHLY TRANSPARENT WEBSITE FOR BOTH THE PUBLIC AND DEVELOPERS, I FOUND TO BE VERY HELPFUL, JUST AS A CONSULTANT, AND I CAN IMAGINE AS THE DEVELOPER, BUT ALSO WITH THE PLANO'S PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC IN PLANO CITY, AND A NUMBER OF CITIES PROVIDED FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER. TO ENSURE QUALITY OF THE HTC DEVELOPMENTS. THERE WE GO. THE CITY OF PLANO HAS A POOR HTC REPUTATION. I INTERVIEWED SIX EXPERIENCED AND WELL REGARDED HTC DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE A DEEP PORTFOLIO WITH ATTRACTIVE COMPLIANT DEVELOPMENTS, NORTH TEXAS, CENTRAL TEXAS, THROUGHOUT THE STATE, SO THESE AREN'T ONE-OFF. I REALLY DID MY HOME WORK IN TERMS OF VETTING AND HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH WELL-REGARDED DEVELOPERS. AND WHEN YOU READ THE PORT, THERE'S -- THERE'S SOME QUOTATIONS BY THEM. IT'S MY OPINION THAT IT'S IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO TURN THIS REPUTATION AROUND TO REDUCE POTENTIAL RISKS. TO APPROVE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OR NO OBJECTION FOLLOWED BY THE DENIAL OF REZONING OR SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS A POTENTIAL LEGAL RISK TO THE CITY. I'M GOING TO NOW ADDRESS OR PIVOT. WHY PLANO NEEDS, IN MY OPINION, HTC HOUSING. THIS DIAGRAM BEFORE YOU IS PLANO WAGES BY OCCUPATION, AND I'M SORRY, IT'S DATED, IT'S 2020. THE LARGER THE SQUARE, THE MORE EMPLOYEES, THE DARKER THE COLOR, THE HIGHER THE INCOME, THE LIGHTER THE COLOR, THE LOWER THE INCOME. SO THE AFFORDABILITY HOUSING INCOME FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IN 2020, 60% AMI IS A LITTLE LESS THAN $52,000. SO IF YOU'RE BELOW THAT, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT ARE -- THE OCCUPATIONS THAT ARE CIRCLED IN RED. THESE INCLUDE RETAIL SALES STAFF, CHILD CARE WORKERS, WAITRESSES BARISTAS CONSTRUCTION OPERATORS, WORKERS, FOOD PREPARATION, PERSONAL CARE SERVICE OCCUPATIONS HEALTHCARE SUPPORT, AND JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE AMI OF 52,000 INCLUDES FIREFIGHTERS, EMTs AND OTHER PROTECTION SERVICES. SO THIS -- JUST WANTED TO PUT A FACE TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN AUSTIN -- EXCUSE ME, IN PLANO, THAT ARE BELOW THE AFFORDABILITY INDEX. THAT'S DEFINED BY HUD. THIS IS HUD -- DEPARTMENT OF HUD DATA. THE NEXT SLIDE IS ALSO 2020. THIS IS A GRAPH THAT SHOWS SLIDING SCALE OF HOUSI, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES, PLANO IN RED OR LOOKS LIKE MAGENTA, THE DARK RED, AND THEN THE GRAY OR THE LIGHT BLUE IS US. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, ON THE GRAPH, PLANO'S MEDIAN PROPERTY VALUE IN 2020 IS -- FAR EXCEEDS -- IT'S A HIGH -- PLANO'S MARKET RATE HOUSING IS VERY HIGH PRICE. THE MINIMAL WORKFORCE HOUSING AVAILABLE IS VERY MINIMUM, ISERY LITTLE. THERE'S VERY LITTLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING IS NEEDED. ADDITIONAL FACT I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE IS THAT SENIORS WILL COMPRISE A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF PLANO'S WORK HOUSEHOLDS OVER THE NEXT YEARS, AS BABY BOOMERS AGE INTO THE SENIOR YEARS. INCREASE IN THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING. I'M GOING TO CHANGE NOW, OR CHAN TOPICS AND TALK AND ADDRESS THE -- THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I STUDIED THAT VERY CLOSELY. AND I UNDERSTAND, AND IT'S VERY APPARENT TO ME AND I'VE BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL'S UNEASE WITH THIS TWO-PART APPROVING OF A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT, HTC, RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OR NEW OBJECTION FOLLOWED LATER BY A SEPARATE REZONING OR CHANGE OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT. IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHY THE PUBLIC COMES BACK AND YOU'RE PUT IN AN AWKWARD POSITION. MY RECOMMENDATION, AND MY RECOMMENDATION ALONE, IS TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE HTC POLICY THAT SPANS THE ENTIRE PUBLIC APPROVAL PROCESS. THE CURRENT POLICY STOPS AT THE APPLICATION WITH THE RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT, NO OBJECTION OBJECTION. AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO LOOK AT A POLICY TO GIVE BETTER ASSURANCE TO BOTH YOU ON THE DAIS AS WELL AS DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR REZONING OR SPECIAL PERMIT REUSE. THIS NUMBER HAS BEEN DRUMMED INTO MY HEAD. 97% OF THE CITY OF PLANO IS BUILT OUT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO REDEVELOPMENT IS REALLY THE NAME OF THE GAME THAT -- FO ALMOST ALL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PLANO. AND ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT THE HTC POLICY SHOULD INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE CITY DEVELOPER -- DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT I HEARD IN THE INTERVIEWS WITH STAFF AND OTHERS WAS HOW CAN WE ENSURE QUALITY? HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BE GOOD NEIGHBORS? THIS HTC DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR? AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH THESE BENCHMARK CITIES, WHERE THEY HAVE USED INCENTIVES TO BRING THE DEVELOPER TO THE TABLE, THAT'S A MECHANISM BY WHICH YOU CAN -- THE CITY CAN PLACE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE PROPERTY DURING THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD. ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS ALSO, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES ADMINISTER THE HTC APPLICATION PROGRAM FOR THE CITY, AND REPLACE THE CRC AS THE ADVISORY ROLE. TO THE CITY COUNCIL. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT STAFF MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL BASED ON AN OBJECTIVE APPLICATION SCORING METHODOLOGY. AND ALSO TO MODIFY THE APPLICATION TO FOCUS ON DEVELOPER EXPERIENCE WITH A SOLID TRACK RECORD OF HTACA COMPLIANCE AND INSPECTIONS. ALSO, TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY, AND AGAIN I REALLY AM -- I'LL JUST SAY COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES. I LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF CITIES AND MANY CITIES HAVE ALMOST ZERO INFORMATION ON A PROGRAM, AND OTHER CITIES ARE VERY, VERY TRANSPARENT, AND THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MAKING, I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AN ASSET FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF EXPLAINING WHEREHEY'RE COMING FROM. IT'S TO MONITOR THE RECORD OF EXISTING HTC DEVELOPMENTS TO INFORM FUTURE DECISIONS ON DEVELOPER APPLICATIONS, SO THE CITY IS MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON THE TRACK RECORD OF DEVELOPERS PAST PERFORMANCE. AND TO NEGOTIATE CITY DEVELOPER/DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE WELL-MAINTAINED ATTRACTIVE PROPERTIES IN EXCHANGE FOR SOME TYPE OF CITY FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION, AND AGAIN I'VE LISTED THO IN MY REPORT, A RANGE OF THOSE, AND THEN TO REVIEW MY RECOMMENDATION -- MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO REVIEW THE BENCHMARK APPLICATION PROCESS FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND FINALLY, THE APPLICATION FORM ITSELF, THE APPLICATION HONESTLY, THE -- I SHOULDN'T SAY HONESTLY, BUT THE DEVELOPERS DID NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION FORM, JUST MORE THE PROCESS AND THE OUTCOME. THE APPLICATION FORM IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER BENCHMARK CITIES HAVING OBJECTIVE AND FAIR -- BOTH FAIR IN SCORING AND FAIR IN PERCEPTION, BY ELIMINATING SUBJECTIVE QUESTIONS, I THINK IS TO THE BENEFIT OF ALL CONCERNED, SO THE RECOMMENDATION, I'VE READ LINED OR BLACK LINED A COPY FOR WHAT I CALL THE 2024, WHICH IS SORT OF A COMPREHENSIVE RED LINING OF THAT APPLICATION, I WON'T GO INTO THAT DETAIL. TO EXPAND APPLICATION ON THE DEVELOR EXPERIENCE, PAST TRACK RECORD, 2023 FINALLY, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS FOUR TOPICS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP FOR THE CRC TO LOOK AT AND EXAMINE. THE FIRST IS CURRENT ZONING STATUS, REQUIRING REZONING BEFORE OFFERING RESOLUTION OF APPROVAL OR NO OBJECTION. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO HAVE AN HTC APPLICATION RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OF NO OBJECTION. IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FIRST. FOLLOWED SEPARATELY BY REZONING OR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT CHANGE. THE APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS, SECONDLY, SHOULD INCLUDE A DISCLAIMER THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR. AND SEVERAL CITY VS SOME GOOD MODEL LANGUAGE THAT IN NO WAY DOES THAT RESOLUTION TIE THAT TO A FUTURE LAND USE ZONING APPROVAL. AND THEN THIRD, EXPANDING THE POLICY FROM ADDRESSING ONLY THE APPLICATION TO ADDRESSING CITY ENTITLEMENTS. REZONING AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT OF AN AWARDED HTC TAX CREDIT. ONLY IF IT'S AWARDED WILL IT BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY. BUT A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY WILL PROVIDE BOTH THE CITY AND DEVELOPER APPLICANTS GREATER ASSURANCE FOR THIS PROCESS. SO THAT'S -- THAT WAS ONE QUESTION. THE SECOND QUESTION OR TOPIC THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS APPLICANT LOCALITY. FAVORING LOCAL DEVELOPERS. TDHCA IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS. THEY HAVE ABOUT SIX POINTS, SIX CRITERION IN WHICH THEY FAVOR OR MAKE THEIR DETERMINATION IN TERMS OF AWARDING TAX CREDITS. WHAT THEY PRIORITIZE IS EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER TEAMS. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE TO EXPERIENCE DEVELOPER TEAMS. THE THIRD TOPIC WAS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT LOCALITY, FAVORING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT SERVICES WITH LOCAL PRESENCE. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I HAVE IS REALLY WHAT I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS WITH EVERY QUALIFIED DEVELOPER ALSO RECOMMENDS, IN THAT A LOCAL MANAGEMENT LEASING PRESENCE IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF ALL HTC DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TONSURE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE THAT RENTERS ARE BEING VETTED AND SO FORTH. SO HAVING A LOCAL PRESENCE IS REALLY -- IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME AT ALL. AND IT'S A CLEAR RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN THE FOURTH TOPIC WAS CITY COMMENDMENT OF $500, SEPARATING THE $500 CONTRIBUTION IS NOTED BY -- IT'S WORTH ONE POINT BY THE TDHCA FOR RESOLUON O SUPPORT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT'S UNNECESSARY TO SEPARATE, TO INCLUDE THE CITY CONTRIBUTION OR FEE WAIVER WITH A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE A FEW REMARKS THAT I'D LIKE TO CLOSE BEFORE OPENING UP FOR -- THAT WEREN'T IN MY PRESENTATION. I THINK I'M JUST AT ABOUT MY 15 MINUTES. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INSIGHT. I PA CONTRIBUTION, YOUR THOUGHTS, AND YOUR -- THE POINTS THAT YOU BROUGHT TO ME. IT WAS INVALUABLE, AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL. THE SECOND HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY STAFF INTERVIEWS. AS A PROFESSIONAL WHO SERVED ON AUSTIN'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCILS ON MANY CITIES, I CAN STATE THAT THE CITY OF PLANO IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE A DEDICATED,MPETT, AND PROFESSIONAL STAFF. INTERVIEWS WITH SENIOR STAFF WERE FAIR MINDED AND UNBIASED. IT WAS REPEATEDLY EMPHASIZED BY STAFF TO ME THAT STAFF'S ROLE IS TO IMPLEMENT CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES. SO IN MY OPINION, THE CITY STAFF MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE CITY OF EXCELLENCE. MY THIRD POINT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT WAS VERY GRACIOUS WITH THEIR TIME AND WAS AN EXCELLENT LIAISON FOR MY WORK. LORI SCHWARZ AND HER DEPARTMENT STAFF REMAINED OBJECTIVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS. AND FINALLY, MY FINDINGS, MY OBSERVATIONS, AND MY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MINE ALONE. THIS IS RATHER UNUSUAL BECAUSE I'M A COLLABORATOR. I LIKE TO COLLABORATE AND FIND THIS WAS NOT THE CHARGE. THE CHARGE WAS TO COME WITH AN INDEPENDENT VIEW. THERE WAS NO FEEDBACK LOOP WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH CITY STAFF, AND THEREFORE, THIS REPORT DID NOT BENEFIT FROM ANY PEER REVIEW OF MY REPORT OR ANY -- AS I SAID, ANY FEEDBACK. SO IT'S TRULY AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'LL RETURN IT TO THE DAIS >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, SEAN, APPRECIATE IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEAN? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE STAFF LOOK AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BRING THEM BACK IN REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY CAN WORK WITH, WHAT A POLICY WOULD LOOK LIKE, THINGS LIKE THAT, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING IT WITHOUT REALLY A STAFF REPORT. BUT GO AHEAD, DEPUTY MAYOR. >> Tu: SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. SO I GUESS WHEN YOU WERE DOING COMPARISON WITH OTHER CITIES, WHAT WAS THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP WITH YOUR STUDY OF THIS -- OUR CURRENT POLICY THAT CAUSE YOU SOME CONCERN WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY AS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? >> MY CAVEAT IS THAT HADO INFORMATION ON THE CITY OF PLANO BECAUSE IT WAS ALL TAKEN DOWN BECAUSE OF THE 2023 HTC PROGRAM WAS PUT ON HIATUS. SO I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CITY OF PLANO. IN FACT, I HAVE NO POINT OF PERSPECTIVE WITH THE CITY OF PLANO. IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH -- IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, YES. BUT WHAT I FOUND IN LOOKING AT PROBABLY OVER 20 CITIES, THAT IT VARIED SUBSTAIALLY. AND THOSE CITIES THAT WERE FAR MORE TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC, WITH DEVELOPERS, WITH MAPPING MATERIAL, WITH THE DECISION-MAKING, IT WAS VERY APPARENT AND IN MY OPINION, A BETTER OUTCOME AND MORE FAIR-MINDEDNESS IN TERMS OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE, SEEING WHAT THE INFORMATION IS, AND THEN MAKING A JUDGMENT CALL. SO IT HAS NO DISPARAGING REMARKS OR ANY NEGATIVITY ON THE PART OF THE CITY OF PLANO. >> Tu: WHAT ABOUT YOUR SUGGESTION ABOUT GETTING RID OF THAT ONE STEP WHERE IT GOES TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND THEN GOING -- SO SKIPPING THAT COMPLETELY AND GOING TO STAFF. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THAT MAKES IT MORE TRANSPARENT? >> THERE'S ANOTHER -- IT -- I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF TRANSPARENCY. I THINK IT'S -- I HAD A THREPORT. THAT I'VE LAID OUT IN THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION, I ATTENDED A SESSION, AND WE HAD A QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION. THEY'RE WELL INTENTIONED. THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY WORK VERY HARD. THEY'RE ON FOR TWO-YEAR TERMS, STAGGERED, AND THERE'S NINE MEMBERS. AND JUST ON MY -- CONDUCTING MY ANALYSIS AND STUDY, THIS IS A DEEP SUBJECT WITH A LOT ON THE LINE IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL RISK, IN TERMS OF JUST ALL THE ISSUES. AND TO HAVE A VOLUNTEER BODY THAT'S GOING ON ROLLING TWO-YEAR TERMS, IT'S PUTTING A LOT OF -- I'LL SAY WEIGHT ON THEM. AND IN MY OPINION, I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS THAT CAPACITY OR THAT CAPABILITY AND THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE EVERY YEAR THE TDCHA CHANGES. EVERY YEAR, SO THEY'VE GOT TO KE UP WITH AT. AND THE ANALOGY, FAIR OR NOT, IS SIMILAR TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN THE ZONING CASE COMES IN, THERE'S OFTEN A RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THERE IS. IT'S EITHER RECOMMENDED OR RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL. AND THAT'S THE BASIS OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES COMES FROM. >> Tu: THANK YOU. >> AND ALSO I FORGOT TO MENTION, I COULD NOT FIND ONE BENCHMARK CITY THAT ACTUALLY USES A COMMISSION. THEY ALL USE CITY STAFF. AND IT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES. >> Ricciardelli: FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND FOR THE REPORT. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME WE SPENT TOGETHER DURING OUR MEETING. I WAS WONDERING, REGARDING THE BENCHMARK CITIES, YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT PLANO FACES THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE FIVE SELECTED BENCHMARK CITIES FACE. I DIDN'T SEE ANY BENCHMARK CITIES IN COLLIN COUNTY ON THAT LIST. DO WE KNOW HOW OUR PROCESS COMPARES TO OTHER COLLIN COUNTY CITIES, SAY FRISCO, McKINNEY, ALLEN, MAYBE EVEN FURTHER NORTH, RICHARDSON CARROLLTON LEWISVILLE, OTHER NEARBY CITIES. DO WE HAVE A READ ON OUR POLICY FOR THOSE POLICIES OF THOSE CITIES? >> GOOD QUESTION. I DID WORK AND WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND INFORMATION. I MADE SOME CALLS, DID NOT GET INFORMATION. >> Ricciardelli: OKAY, GOTCHA, GOTCHA. SO IT WAS MORE AN AVAILABILITY ISSUE OF THE INFORMATION. SO IT WAS AN ISSUE OF AVAILABILITY AND WEBSITE. BUT I ALSO LOOKED AT TDHC, THE AWARDS. AND THE AWARDS OF WHAT CITIES HAD A PRETTY CONSISTENT BASIS OF GETTING AWARDS. AND I DON'T HAVE THAT PARTICULAR SPREADSHEET WITH ME. BUT WITH, SAY, McKINNEY AND FRISCO, VERY, VERY FEW AWARDS OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SAY FIVE YEARS. BUT THAT IS ONE THING I WANTED TO DO WAS TO HAVE A COMPARISON D WAS JUST UNABLE TO HAVE ANY DATA TO MAKE THAT OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS. >> Ricciardelli: GOTCHA. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN ALSO, I UNDERSTAND -- YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE ANALOGY TO ZONING IS APT BECAUSE BOTH ARE COMPLEX AND IMPORTANT SUBJECT MATTER. YOU KNOW, I GUESS TO CARRY THAT ANALOGY FORWARD, TYPICALLY IN A ZONING CASE, THERE'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THEN IT GOES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, YOU KNOW IF THE WAS A STAFF PROCESS INITIALLY BUT STILL INVOLVED THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, JUST AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS STILL INVOLVED IN THOSE ZONING CASES, AND THEN IT MOVES ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL, RATHER THAN REMOVING THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION FROM THE PROCESS ENTIRELY. WHAT WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS BE ON THAT? >> I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. AND AGAIN, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS PUT IT ON THE BACK OF THE GROUNDS THAT THERE WAS NOT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A FEEDBACK LOOP. THE NOTION OF HAVING -- IT WAS A HARD DECISION FOR ME TO SAY THAT HERE IS THIS COMMISSION THAT'S VERY DEVOTED TO THEIR WORK, AND THEY DON'T -- WE'RE TAKING THAT AWAY OR I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THAT BE TAKEN AWAY. WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CURRENTLY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES PROVIDES INFORMATION TO THE CRC IN AN OBJECTIVE, UNBIASED FORMAT. SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH. IT'S ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, WITH RATIONALE, AND THAT'S ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED. >> Ricciardelli: OKAY, GOTCHA. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING OPEN TO THAT IDEA AND FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON IT. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, JUST A CLARIFICATION. YOU MADE A COMMENT REGARDING THE LETTER OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT OTHER CITIES ARE -- I THINK THE WORDS YOU USED WERE SOMETHING LIKE PUTTING IT ON THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WHICH I THINK MAKES SENSE. MY UNDERSTANDINGF THE CURRENT PROCESS SINCE WE'VE KIND OF ADDED A CATEGORY FOR PUBLIC INPUT IS THAT THE ONUS WAS KIND OF ON THE APPLICANT TO GO OUT AND BUILD THAT PUBLIC SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, GO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, AND WORK WITH THEM ON THIS IDEA. IT SEEMED TO ME FROM YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS -- AND I COULD BE MISUNDERSTANDING THEM, BUT IT SEEMED TO BE REMOVING PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE PROCESS. IS THAT THE INTENTION, OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT REGARDING THE COENT ABOUT LETRS OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT? >> I THINK -- THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME CLARIFY THAT. THERE IS A LOCAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT SCORING. AND THERE'S QUANTIFY -- LET ME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. I THINK IT'S VITAL TO HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT. IT'S DIFFERENT TO HAVE IT AS A REQUIREMENT IN THE APPLICATION TO HAVE A SUBMITTED LETTER FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THEIR SUPPORT. I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE APPLICANT TO GO SEEK OUT AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE THAT AND TO SEEK OUT THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT. IN FACT, WHAT I DID WAS I LOOKED AT THE 2023 -- AND I'M PROBABLY SHORT ON TIME, LORI, RIGHT? >> Mayor Muns: YOU'VE GOT TO WRAP IT UP. >> I'VE GOT TO WRAP IT UP. THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE AWARDED, THEY HAVE THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO IT'S IN TH APPLICANT'S BEST INTEREST TO GET THAT. I THINK IT EMPOWERS OR IT PUTS THE WEIGHT JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, IF I'M GOING TO -- SINCE IT'S REQUIRED BY THE CITY THAT A LETTER BE SUBMITTED, HERE'S MY ASK FROM YOU. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT -- IT'S A NUANCE, IF YOU WILL. >> Ricciardelli: AND I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, BUT WHAT I'M STILL NOT UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE TAKE THAT OUT OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THAT LETTER OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HOW DO WE TAKE PUBLIC INPUT INTO ACCOUNT? YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE JUST USING THESE SCORING CRITERIA AND THAT'S NO LONGER A SCORING CRITERION, DO WE ADD SOMETHING IN, A CATEGORY, A SCORE FOR PUBLIC INPUT? HOW DO WE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT IF WE'RE REMOVING THE WAY WE'RE CURRENTLY, I GUESS, INCLUDING THAT IN THE PROCESS? >> THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES FROM THE TDCHA STANDPOINT. IT'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT, AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND CATEGORY FOR LOCAL COMMUNITY SUPPORT. AND THEY'RE BOTH -- THERE'S POINTS AWARDED. AND THEY ADDED TIEBREAKERS TO -- BECAUSE POINTS ARE SO CLOSE IN COMPARISON ON AWARDS NOW THAT IT'S IN THE DEVELOPER'S BEST INTEREST TO GAIN THAT SUPPORT. SO THEY HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE QAP THAT ARE REQUIRE -- NOT REQUIREMENTS, BUT CATEGORIES FOR THEM TO SEEK OUT COMMUNITY SUPPORT. SO I'M ABSOLUTELY -- THERE NEEDS TO BE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. >> Ricciardelli: SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD NOT BE PART -- COMMUNITY SUPPORT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESS. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE TDHCA PROCESS OUTSIDE OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESS. >> CORRECT. >> Ricciardelli: JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, I WOULD HAVE CONCERN REMOVING COMMUNITY SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESS. I DO APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS AND ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YES, SIR. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ARE WE OKAY WITH STAFF TO BRING BACK THIS ITEM WITH THE RECOMMENDATION -- >> Williams: MAYOR? I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Muns: FOR SEAN? >> Williams: YES. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY, SORRY, SEAN. SORRY. GO AHEAD. >> Williams: THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED WERE ISSUES IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF OUR PROC. YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT YOU EVALUATED WAS THE -- I THINK THE THIRD ITERATION, THE THIRD REVISION OF OUR PROCESS IN FOUR YEARS. BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAD WAS THE HEAVY WEIGHTING FOR EXPERIENCED DEVELOPERS. AND THAT WAS A PARTICULAR ISSUE IN 2019, I THINK IT WAS. AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE TO SEE YOU RECOMMENDING TO PUT AN EMPHASIS ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE DEVELOPERS. D I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TDHCA PLACES AN EMPHASIS ON EXPERIENCE. BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO JUST HOW STRONGLY YOU'RE ADVOCATING EMPHASIZING THAT? I INFERRED THAT IT WAS PRETTY STRONG. >> IT IS. I BELIEVE THAT THE EXPERIENCED DEVELOPERS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS AND INTERVIEWED AND SPECIFICALLY SPOKE WITH BUT ALSO LOOKED AND VISITED THEIR SITES AND COMMUNITIES. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 32. AND THESE ARE -- THESE WELL-REGARDED, EXPERIENCED DEVELOPERS, I THINK, HAVE A -- THERE'S A LOT OF FINANCIALS THAT GO INTO IT. THERE'S A LOT OF ASPECTS THAT GO INTO THE -- BEFORE THERE'S AN AWARD GIVEN BY THE TDHCA. AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS A KEY. AND AS I SAID, IT'S STATED ON THERE, SOMETHING THAT THEY VALUE OR PRIORITIZE. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THERE WERE TWO ROUNDTABLES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.ED BY THERE WAS NOT ONE DEVELOPER FROM COLLIN COUNTY THAT ATTENDED THOSE DEVELOPER ROUNDTABLES. SO I'M NOT SURE OF THE LOCAL DEVELOPER. WHAT I HAVE WANTED TO HAVE INFORMATION EXCHANGE, IF YOU WILL, WITH A LOCAL DEVELOPER, AND THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED. >> Williams: WELL, I WAS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE OUR -- AND THAT ACTUALLY IS A GOOD SEGUE INTO MY NEXT QUESTION. OUR FORMER RUBRIC, A FEW ITERATIONS AGO, MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY BUT THE MOST EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER, WHOMEVER THE MOST EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER WAS PITCHING SOMETHING, MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO COMPETE BECAUSE THEY KEPT PILING ON POINTS UPON POINTS UPON POINTS FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT THEY HAD UNDER THEIR BELT. WHETHER THEY WERE LOCAL OR NOT. IT WAS THE EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER ASPECT. AND I HAVE HESITATIONS, OF COURSE, ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO IS PERFECTLY GREEN COMING INTO IS. BUT THE EXPERIENCE BY ITSELF, I THINK, IS A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE CONSIDER SUCH A THING FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT THAT LEADS TO THE RUBRIC PORTION OF IT. WE WENT WHAT FELT LIKE ROUND AND ROUND TRYING TO FIND A RUBRIC THAT WAS OBJECTIVE AND YET WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE THE NUANCES OF WHAT A PROJECT MIGHT MEAN TO THE CITY AND IN THAT LOCATION AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES. AND WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SCORING AND ON MULTIPL OCCASIONS, WE CONCLUDED THAT THE PURELY OBJECTIVE SCORING RUBRIC WAS TOO CONFINING. IT DIDN'T ALLOW US TO CAPTURE THE NUANCES, BUT WE HAD PASSED THAT RUBRIC, SO WE APPROVED THE SCORING. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEPT US GOING IN THE CYCLE OF TRYING TO REVISE THE PROCESS. SO I UNDERSTAND PROPOSING AN OBJECTIVE RUBRIC FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LEAVE IT TO THE RUBRIC, NOT SUBJECTIVITY. BUTHAT IS THE REAL REAS YOU'RE LOOKING AT REMOVING ANY REMAINING SUBJECTIVITY? BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY HARD AND OBJECTIVE. >> BEING FAIR. AND I THINK BEING OBJECTIVE, ASKING QUESTIONS IN A FAIR FORMAT, I THINK A SUBJECTIVE QUESTION LIKE, WILL THIS PROJECT BE A COMMUNITY ASSET IS VERY EVALUATED -- I'M NOT SURE ON WHAT BASIS. AND IF IT CAN BE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD DISCUSS THIS FURTHER. BUT I DO THINK THAT -- I STILL BELIEVE THAT HAVING -- I'M IN NO WAY DISREGARDING LOCAL. BUT IF THEY'RE LOCAL PAIRED WITH EXPERIENCED OR IF THEY'RE LOCAL AND EXPERIENCED, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES. SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT A BINARY DECISION. AND IT'S NOT SAYING SOMEONE FROM MIAMI SHOULD ABSOLUTELY GET THE PROJECT OVER SOMEONE FROM COLLIN COUNTY. >> Williams: OKAY, THANK YOU. >> Ricciardelli: JUST A CLARIFICATION MAYOR. THIS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION SLIDE THAT HAS COME UP, THIS WAS NOT IN THE PACKET, BUT ARE WE -- >> Mayor Muns: LORI WAS GOING TO COME UP AND EXPLAIN. >> Ricciardelli: OH, OKAY, SORRY. >> SORRY. >> Ricciardelli: MY APOLOGIES. >> I THINK AT THIS POINT I HEARD THE MAYOR SAY HE'S INTERESTED IN HAVING STAFF RESPOND TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CONSULTANT, WHICH WE CAN DO. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH REVIEWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHATEVER FEEDBACK STAFF MAY PROVIDE, IS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE TIMETABLE, AS SEAN HAD MENTIONED. WE REALLY WOULD NEED TO HAVE A FINAL DECISION BY YOUR NOVEMBER 27th MEETING SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE INFORMATION OUT TO THE DEVELOPERS IN TIME TO SUBMIT FOR THE 2024 PROCESS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THE CHAES FOR THIS YEAR. IT'S POSSIBLE WE COULD MAYBE DO SOME CHANGES THIS YEAR AND MAYBE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES NEXT YEAR. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT THAT IS -- WE ARE ON A TIGHTER TIMEFRAME. WE'VE GOT ABOUT THREE OF YOUR MEETINGS BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE A FINAL DECISION IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD NEXT YEAR. >> Mayor Muns: I AGREE, WE NEED TO GET THIS PROGRAM BACK ONLINE. ANY THOUGHTS? >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FOR A LITTLE LENGTHIER WORK SESSION TO BRING BACK SOME OF THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND GET FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL. >> Mayor Muns: WE ARE UP AGAINST THE 7:00 HOUR. AND I'M GOING TO START OUR REGULAR MEETING, AND THEN I'LL GET RIGHT TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL REPORT. I APOLOGIZE. BUT IF WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE CARE OF CONSENT AND REGULAR AGENDAS. WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE?MEER OKAY. AND ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION FOR FUTURE ITEMS? >> Ricciardelli: YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO PUT AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. AS WE KNOW, WE'VE RECENTLY AT A RETREAT DISCUSSED A POLICY FOR NEW ITEMS FOR THE COUNCIL WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, ABOUT ALLOCATION OF STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES WORKING ON NEW BUSINESS BROUGHT UP BY THE COUNCIL, BY COUNCILMEMBERS. I THINK WE ALSO NEED A POLICY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS RELATING TO HOW THEY RELATE TO THE STAFF, HOW THEY USE STAFF TIME. AND I THINK IT WOULD PARALLEL WHAT WE'VE GOT FOR THE COUNCIL BUT ALSO FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A TRULY HEAVY LIFT OR IMPLICATE PERHAPS CONFLICT WITH THE COUNCIL PRIORITY. I THINK TO DO THAT WORK FOR THAT BOARD OR COMMISSION. >> Tu: I'LL SECOND IT. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. >> Mayor Muns: I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WILL TAKE A RECESS AND BE BACK AT 7:00. >> Mayor Muns: I NOW DECLARE THAT THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENED INTO OPEN SESSION, THAT ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE WILL BEGIN TONIGHT' REGULAR MEETING WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY DR. TRACEY DAVEORT, SENIOR PASTOR, WITH GRACE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE LED BY CUB SCOUT PACK 25. WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND? >> LET US PRAY. GREAT GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH GRATITUDE, FOR THE BEAUTY OF CREATION, THE COOLER WEATHER, THE ABUNDANCE YOU HAVE PROVIDED THIS CITY. I THANK YOU FOR THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS, OUR MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY STAFF, I ASK YOUR WISDOM, GUIDANCE, AND HELP FOR THE COMPLEX PROBLEMS THEY FACE, FOR THE BURDENS THEY CARRY, FOR THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY BEAR. MAY THEY COME TO DECISIONS FOR JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS, FOR WE KNOW THESE TO BE YOUR WILL. MAY THEY UNIFY AND NOT DIVIDE THE PEOPLE, FOR WE KNOW THAT UNITED WE STAND AND DIVIDED BY FALL. MAY THEY WORK TO MAKE PLANO A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE THRIVES AND JOIN THIS LIFE YOU HAVE GIVEN US WITH MEANING AND PURPOSE. IN A WORLD AT WAR, MAY WEO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE FOR PEACE. I ASK THESE BOLD REQUESTS, KNOWING THAT YOU, GOD ALONE, HAVE ALL THE POWER AND THE LOVE TO BRING THEM ABOUT. AMEN. >> SCOUT SALUTE. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE) . >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE TEXAS PLEDGE. (TEXAS PLEDGE) . >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, BE SEATED. (OFF MIC) (LAUGHTER). >> Mayor Muns: THERE'S ONE FOR EVERYONE. YOU WANT RED? >> IT'S NOT A LINEUP. >> Mayor Muns: WE'RE LOSING BLUES. DO YOU WANT A RED ONE? DO YOU WANT A BLUE ONE? >> IT'S BRACELETS THAT HAVE THE . WE TRADED OUT SWAG. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. GUYS, I HAVE TWO, THREE -- YOU CAN HAVE IT. THERE YOU GO. YOU CAN HAVE ONE OF EACH COLOR. >> WE CAN PUT THEM IN YOUR DRAWERS. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. THIS IS GREAT. Y'ALL DID SUCH A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. THAT WAS SO NICE. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. WELL, OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, AND WE MUST ALL WORK TOGETHER TO ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM. SO PUTTING AN END TO DOMESTIC THE NATION REQUIRES A THROUGHOUT COORDINATED COMMUNITY EFFORT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS CALL FORWARD CHRISTINA COLTUS, THE CEO OF HOPE'S DOOR, PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND VICTIM ADVOCATES, TEXAS MUSLIM WOMEN'S FOUNDATION, COLLIN COUNTY COUNCIL ON FAMILY VIOLENCE, HOPE RESTORED MISSIONS, CHETNA AND FAMILIES TO FREEDOM. IF Y'ALL WOULD PLEASE COME DOWN HERE IF I CALLED YOUR GROUP OUT. >> I ASKED A LOT OF SUPPORTERS TO COME TONIGHT. >> Mayor Muns: WONDERFUL. >> IF YOU WANT TO STAND WITH US TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> Mayor Muns: PLEASE COME DOWN. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU. COME ON, CHIEF. [ LAUGHTER ] NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, OCTOBER 2023, WHEREAS THE TIONAL COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE STARTED THE DAY OF UNITY IN 1981 IN ORDER TO CONNECT BATTERED WOMEN'S ADVOCATES, THE FIRST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH WAS OBSERVED AND THE FIRST NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TOLL FREE HOTLINE WAS INITIATED OCTOBER OF 1987. WHEREAS ABUSE IS HITTING, YELLING HUMILIATING STALKING MANIPULATING, THREATENING, AND ISOLATING, THESE ARE SERIOUS CRIMES THAT AFFECT PEOPLE OF ALL RACES, AGES, INCOME LEVELS, AND GENDERS. AND WHEREAS HOPE'S DOOR NEW BEGINNING CENTER, TEXAS MUSLIM WOMEN'S FOUNDATION, AGAPE, THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT VICTIMS ADVOCATES, THE COLLIN COUNTY COUNCIL ON FAMILY VIOLENCE, PURPLE PATCHES, AND THE JUNIOR LEAGUE ARE SOME OF THE MANY ORGANIZATIONS WORKING TO HELP VICTIMS AND RAISE AWARENESS IN ORDER TO ASSIST THOSE IN NEED. THE PUBLIC MUST BE AWARE OF THE TRAGIC CONSEQUENCES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WE MUST HELP SURVIVORS FIND SAFETY AND JUSTICE WHILE WE CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO LIVE THE VIOLENCE-FREE LIVES THAT EVERYONE DESERVES. NOW THEREFORE, I JOHN MUNS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PLANO, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2023 IS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN PLANO. AND I DO, THEREBY, ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME AND THE PLANO CITY COUNCIL IN RECOGNIZING THE AWFUL CONSEQUEES O DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE ASK OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN IN, WORKING TOWARD THE ELIMINATION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT. I STAND HERE WITH IMMENSE GRATITUDE IN MY HEART AS WE COME TOGETHER TO COMMEMORATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH. I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN PROCLAIMING THIS MONTH. IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL ACTION, BUT WITH A BIG VOICE TO SURVIVORS AND VICTIMS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IN RECOGNIZING THE SPECIAL MONTH FOR SURVIVORS AND VICTIMS, WE SHINE A LIGHT ON A CRITICAL ISSUE AFFECTING FAR TOO MANY IN OUR CITY. THROUGH THIS AWARENESS AND ACTION, WE CAN HOPE TO COME TOGETHER AND CONTINUE TO BRING THE CHANGE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR SO LONG. SO I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK THOSE AGENCIES THAT WERE MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT, THE AGENCIES THAT AREN'T HERE TONIGHT, AND THE MANY ANCIES THROUGHOUT NORTH XAS THAT SERVE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ASSAULT, STALKING, HUMAN TRAFFICKING. IT TAKES ALL OF US TO COMBAT THE ISSUE OF ABUSE IN THE HOME. WE KNOW WHEN FAMILIES ARE NOT p. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, MY FELLOW ADVOCATES IN THIS CAUSE. THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE CITY, AND THANK YOU TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHO ARE OFTEN THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE IN VICTIMS' MOST VULNERABLE MOMENT. IT IS ONE OF THEIR MOST DANGOUS CALL SOMETIMES. AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Mayor Muns: SO IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO -- THE OATHS OF OFFICE ARE BEING GIVEN TONIGHT TO CITIZENS WHO WILL BE SERVING ON THE CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. I ASK THAT MEMBERS IN ATTDANC COME WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME. SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW. FROM THE ANIMAL SHELTER, JOHN SULLIVAN AND CINDY BRADDOCK. FROM BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, CONNOR BARRON, KAREN BELLESSA, JOSE FIGUEROA, MANSOOR KARIMI, DAVID PETERSON, AND JANET PLOTKIN. FROM BUILDING STANDARDS, ED ACKLIN, BRENT EHMKE, MARK MALOUF. FROM CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, PENNY ROBE. FROM COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION, PRISCILLA BROWN, RICK GRADY, KHALID ISHAQ, MAGESH KANDAVADIVEL, LaSHUNDRA THOMAS, JOHNNY TSENG, AND SEMIDA VOICU. CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, DIANE GOEBEL, PETER WYNNE. HERITAGE COMMISSION, NANCY BALDWIN. LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, JESSICA BARTNICK, JUSTIN BENNETT, SCOTT L SEWELL. PARKS AND REC, JUSTIN ADCOCK, BRIAN CHAPUT, LOIS MANSFIELD, HAYDEN PADGETT, MARK PHARISS. PLANO HOUSING AUTHORITY, KARMA CUNNINGHAM, KATHY HINES, JEFF TAYLOR. RETIREMENT SECURITY PLAN COMMITTEE, ABBY OWENS, KAREN RHODES-WHITLEY, SEAN SULLIVAN. SENIOR ADVISORY BOARD, SHERRY SCAMARDO. AND TAX INCREMENT FINANCING REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 2 AND 3, ROBERT DE VRIES, LAN HE, LIZ LANCING, TRAVIS McDANIEL, THOMAS MERRITT, NICK MYSORE, COREY REINAKER, AND JASON TYRA. HI. OH SORRY. THERE IT IS. PLANNING AND ZONING? OH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. THERE YOU GUYS ARE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. BIG GROUP. SO GLAD YOU'RE ALL HERE. SO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND FOR LEFT IF YOU'D LIKE. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OF THE CITY OF PLANO, TEXAS, AND WILL TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THIS STATE AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THIS CITY? AND YOU FURTHERMORE SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED, OR PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED, NOR PROMID TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR VALUABLE THING OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT AS A REWARD TO SECURE YOUR EMPLOYMENT, SO HELP YOU GOD? >> I WILL. >> Mayor Muns: CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] ARE WE CLOSE? OKAY. I CAN DO THAT. >> DON'T WORRY, YOU'RE GOOD. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. >> City Clerk: COMMENTS OF PUBLIC INTEREST. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW UP TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER WITH 30 TOTAL MINUTES ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR CONCERN AND NOT ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. THE COUNCIL MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL OR POLICY INFORMATION. THE COUNCIL MAY CHOOSE TO PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. JUST AS A REMINDER, AS YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM, PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH OR YELL INTO THE MICROPHONE. WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER THIS EVENING. >> Mayor Muns: LET ME START WITH TWO COMMENTS, AND THEN YOU CAN CALL THE SPEAKERS UP. OUR FIRST ITEM AS WE ALL KNOW, LAST SATURDAY ON A JEWISH HOLIDAY AND 50 YEARS AFTER THE START OF THE YOMKIPUR WAR, HAMS ATTACKED ISRAEL. THE IMAGES ARE HORRIFYING, SHOCKING, AND HEARTBREAKING. THE CITY OF PLANO JOINS THOSE ACROSS THE GLOBE WHO UNEQUIVOCALLY CONDEMN THESE APPALLING ATTACKS OF TERROR. WE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO EVERYONE AFFECTED BY THE HUNDREDS OF INNOCEN PEOPLE WHO LIVES WERE SENSELESSLY TAKEN. WE HOPE AND PRAY FOR A SWIFT RECOVERY FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WOUNDED. PLEASE KEEP IN YOUR PRAYERS ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT BY THIS VIOLENCE. THANK YOU. ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ BEFORE WE START. THE CITY OF PLANO AND THIS COUNCIL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS VERY SERIOUSLY. WE ALWAYS WELCOME FEEDBACK ON HOW WE CAN MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER, AND WE TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR ROLE AS THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN IMPORTANCE OF RESPECTING OUR CITIZENS' TIME AND TAXPAYER RESOURCES. WE STRIVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES WITH EXCELLENCE AND FOCUS OUR AGENDA ON CITY BUSINESS AND IN RETURN, WE ASK THOSE THAT COME BEFORE US PROVIDE THAT SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT. OKAY. >> City Clerk: WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THAT IS ALEX STEIN. >> OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE STARTING MY TIMER, GUYS. YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO MESS ME UP PLANO. IT'S PRIME TIME 99, PIMP ON A BLIMP. YOU KNOW WHO I AM. I'M HERE REPRESENTING GAYS FOR PALESTINE. WE'R AN ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING THE TWO SL LGBTQIA + COMMUNITY THAT STANDS FOR THE PERSECUTED MUSLIMS WHO JUST WANT TO JIHAD IN PEACE, ALL RIGHT? A LOT OF PEOPLE RUSHING TO JUDGMENT AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE STUFF THEY'RE SEEING ON TV. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT PALESTINIAN. MIA KALIFA, A POPULAR PORN STAR, IS STANDING WITH THE PALESTINIANS. JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE THROWN A FEW ALLS OFF OF ROOFS IN THE PAST DOESN'T MAKE THEM BAD PEOPLE. WE JUST LOOK PAST THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 2024. PALESTINE IS CHANGING. JUST BECAUSE GAY PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO RUN TO ISRAEL IN THE PAST DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. WE LOVE WOMEN HAVE VERY FEW LIVES. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE FEW TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS MUCH PALESTINE IS ON THE WAY. THEY CAN LOCK THEIR WOMEN IN THE KITCHEN ALL DAY. PALESTINE IS VERY MISUNDERSTOOD. THEIR PASSIONATE DEDICATION TO HAMAS IS AN INSPIRATION. PALESTINIANS ARE REALLY STARTING TO COME AROUND TO THE GAY HERSHEY HIGHWAY BECAUSE IN THEIR CULTURE, THEY HAVE BOYS THEY WORK AS UNDERAGE SEX PARTNERS. GOOGLE "NEW YORK TIMES" BACAAZI. THE PALESTINIAN CAN DISARM THEIR ENEMY. MAYBE HAVE WILD ACTION. US GAYS LOVE HUMMUS, SO THE MORE HAMA THE BETTER. WE JUST BETTER NOT RUN OUT OF NAAN BREAD, LOL. I WANT TO SAY THE BEAUTIFUL SONG I WROTE. IT GOES A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. GAYS FOR PALESTINE, BUTT SEX ON MY MIND. LET ME STICK IT IN. I'LL BANG YOU LIKE A FRIEND. THE FUN WILL NEVER END. THE ROOF IS WHERE I SIN. THROW ME HEAD FIRST. TEN STORIES HIGH. SINCE I'M GAY, I GUESS I'LL DIE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PASSION, YOUR BOOTIE I WILL BE SMASHING. PALESTINE LOVES THE GAYS AS FOR THE HELP WITH ALL THE (INDISCERNIBLE) >> 20 SECONDS. >> PALESTINIANS LOVE THE DICKEY. I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. ALL THE GAYS LOVE PALESTINE. ALL THE GAYS LOVE PALESTINE. ALL THE GAYS LOVE PALESTINE. STICK IT IN MY BEHIND BECAUSE I'M PRIME TIME ALEX STEIN. >> Mayor Muns: TIME. >> THANK YOU GUYS. PRIME TIME 99 PIMP ON A BLIMP. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING OVER THERE? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. (OFF MIC) >> Mayor Muns: DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? >> City Clerk: NO. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >> QUICKLY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I ACTUALLYAVE SETHI REAL QUICK, A LITTLE CHANGE OF PACE HERE. >> Mayor Muns: BIG CHANGE OF PACE. >> BIG CHANGE OF PACE. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE REGARDING THE DISTINGUISHED LEADERSHIP AWARD BY THE PLANO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE EXCEPTIONAL LEADERSHIP IN PLANO WHO HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE PLANO COMMUNITY. A FEW ASPECTS ABOUT THE DLA AWARD, AS IT'S BETTER KNOWN, IS THE RECIPIENTS PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL INVOLVEMENT IN SIGNIFICANT IMPACT IN A VARIETY OF SECTORS IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUTSIDE THE PROFESSIONAL POSITION. EVIDENCE OF ENCOURAGEMENT AND MENTORING OTHERS TO BECOME LEADERS AND A LONG STANDING COMMITMENT TO PLANO AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. I'D LIKE TO ASK CRAIG PERRY IF HE'D START COMING DOWN. I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE ABOUT THIS YEAR'S NOMINEE. THIS PERSON IS A GRADUATE OF LEADERSHIP NORTH TEXAS CLASS FOUR, HAS SERVED ON NUMEROUS COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, SUCH AS HOPE'S DOOR, COLLIN COUNTY HOMELESS COMMITTEE. SHE IS A PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR THE LEADERSHIP, PLANO DISTINGUISHED LEADERSHIP AWARD. SHE SHOWS UP, SERVES WITH HUMILITY, GETS THINGS DONE BY BEING OUT IN FRONT WHEN NEEDED AND BY WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES. SH ENABLES PEOPLE TO GROW AND ACHIEVE AND BE THE BEST SHE CAN BE. SHE LEADS BY EXAMPLES, MOTIVATES OTHERS, DEVELOPS OUTSTANDING LEADERS THROUGH HER WORK AND SERVICE WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN TIMES ARE HARD, SHE HAS THE ABILITY TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES RATHER THAN SIMPLY MAINTAINING A LEVEL OF SERVICE. SHE HAS REALLY LEFT A MARK ON OUR COMMUNITY AND HER TRACKS EXTEND ALL OVER THE AREA. OUR COMMUNITY IS BETTER BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING SHE DOES. IF ALL THE DISTINGUISHED LEADERSHIP AWARD PAST RECIPIENTS WOULD STAND REAL QUICK, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE OF OUR OWN TO THAT LIST, WHICH IS LA SHON ROSS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> SHE WAS LIKE THAT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE ME, BUT SHE WAS PROBABLY UP THERE GOING, I WOER W THIS IS. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> MAYOR, COUNCIL, STAFF, CITIZENS, THIS IS AN EXCITING NIGHT. I WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO THIS TIME, I GOT SURPRISED AT A BOARD MEETING AT THE HENDRICK SCHOLARSHIP FOUNDATION, AND THIS GROUP CAME IN AND LET ME KNOW THAT I GOT THE DLA FOR THIS PAST YEAR, AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT MY FELLOW CLASSMATE FROM CLASS 19, LASHON ROSS, IS THE RECIPIENT FOR THIS YEAR'S. WE HAVE AN EXCITING CLASS. WE EMBARKED ON OUR EXHIBITION, EXPOSITION, I SHOULD SAY, ON SEPTEMBER 15th, 2001. THAT WAS FOUR DAYS AFTER THE TRAGEDIES OF 9/11. SO IT WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL WEEKEND. WE'VE BEEN GREAT FRIENDS EVER SINCE, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PERSON TO HAVE IT. SO CONGRATULATIONS. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL -- >> (OFF MIC). >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THERE'S NOBODY MORE DESERVING IN MY OPINION, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN HER SPEECHLESS. [ LAUGHTER ] SO I WANT THIS IN THE MINUTES, LISA PLEASE. MAKE SURE SHE'S SPEECHLESS BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. CONGRATULATIONS, LASHON, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE TO THE PLANOCOMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. I APOLOGIZE FOR OUR PRELIMINARY OPEN GOING LONGER. SO I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL STUDY PHASE 1 REPORT. AND HEAR ABOUT THAT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I AM CHRISTINA DAY, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. AND I AM HERE TO REALLY JUST INTRODUCE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL STUDY REPORT TO YOU. I AM JOINED THIS EVENING BY CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE, PHIL DYER. AND ALSO WITH GAP STRATEGIES, OUR OUTREACH CONSULTANT, JEFF BARTON AND KARA BUFFINGTON ARE ALSO WITH US THIS EVENING. SO JUST FOR A BRIEF REMINDER OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE NEW TO THIS PROCESS, COUNCIL INITIATED THIS REALLY BACK IN NOVEMBER OF '22 WE'VE HAD SOME REGULAR UPDATES OVER TIME. WE HAD INTER MEASURES DIRECTED. WE HAD A JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING DATA AND RESULTS. WE'RE IN THIS OUTREACH AND DATA COLLECTION PROCESS WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS. AND THEN OUR FINAL STEP WILL BE TO DEVELOP PERMANENT MEASURES IS THE END GOAL. SO AGAIN, PHASE I IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. WE'VE HIRED DECKARD TECHNOLOGIES AS THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDER OF WE ALSO HAVE THIS CONTRACT WITH GAP STRATEGIES. WE'VE DONE A SURVEY, OPEN HOUSE. I KNOW JEFF WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS SO I WON'T BELABOR THIS. BUT WE'VE REALLY BEEN FOCUSED ON DEFINING THE ISSUE TO DATE. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE, PHIL DYER, FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE TONIGHT BRIEFLY. I KNOW YOU HAVE A FUL AGENDA AND OUR CONSULTANT HAS A LOT TO REPORT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY, AS ALWAYS. I APPRECIATE SO MUCH. I WANT TO THANK CHRISTINA DAY AND CHRISTINA SEBASTIAN AND EVERYBODY IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS SUPPORTED THIS EFFORT. IT'S BEEN A LOT. AND THEY'VE RALLIED AND DONE A GREAT JOB PROVIDING US WITH THE INFORMATION DATA THAT WE NEED. SO IT'S BEEN GREAT. ALSO WANT TO THANK JEFF BARTON AND HIS TEAM AT GAP STRATEGIES. THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB IN FACILITATING AND HELPING KEEP THIS THING MOVING FORWARD. SO THEY'VE REALLY BEEN A GREAT SELECTION THAT YOU ALL MADE. THE TASK FORCE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A DIFFICULT JOB, AND I WANT TO COMMEND THE TASK FORCE FOR STAYING FOCUSED. THEY'VE BEEN -- ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN EXCELLENT. THE ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING, AND THEY'VE REALLY SUNK IN AND WORKED ON THIS THING. SO I REALLY SALUTE ALL OF THEM. AS YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW, YOU APPOINTED THIS GROUP. AND IF YOU INTENDED TO APPOINT A GROUP WITH DIVERSE OPINIONS AND NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK THEM, WELL, JOB WELL DONE. [ LAUGHTER ] BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED. WE NEEDED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ON IT. AND WE ARE HEARING FROM EVERYBODY ON IT. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE PEOPLE WHO DERIVE SOME OR A LOT OF THEIR INCOME OR ALL OF THEIR INCOME FROM THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL BUSINESS AS OWNERS OR MANAGERS. AND WE ALSO HAVE PRIVATE CITIZENS WHO HAVE HAD SIGNIFICANTLY NEGATIVE PERSONAL INTERACTION WITHHE SHORT-TER REN. IT'S IMPACTED THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. SO AS YOU CAN WELL IMAGINE, GETTING THOSE TWO DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS TO COME TOGETHER ON VERY MANY THINGS IS VERY DIFFICULT. AGAIN, NOT A SURPRISE. AGAIN, PART OF THE PROCESS OF INCLUDING EVERYBODY IN IT. WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULT MOMENTS, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN NO PERSONAL ATTACKS, NO INSULTS. THERE HAS BEEN COURTESY SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, EVEN WHEN SOMEBODY IS SAYING SOMEING THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH 100%, SO I SALUTE THE TASK FORCE FOR THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSE AND THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE THAT WAS REALLY WELL ATTENDED. WE HEARD FROM THOUSANDS OF CITIZENS. SO IT WAS REALLY A PRODUCTIVE SESSION. OBVIOUSLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TOUGH TIMES AND THERE ARE MORE TOUGH TIMES AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THIS PROCESS. WE'VE BEEN IN THE DATA COLLECTION PROCESS RIGHT NOW GETTING INPUT AND NOW THE NEXT STEP IS TO START TALKING ABOUT RECOMMENDATION. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY EMOTIONAL THING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT COMING IN. THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE EITHER. SO OVERALL, I'M NOT SURPRISED. I'M PLEASED WITH THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE TASK FORCE. PEOPLE ARE DOING THEIR JOB, AND I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO STEP ASIDE AND ASK JEFF BARTON FROM GAP STRATEGIES TO COME DOWN AND MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, WHICH I THINK WILL INCLUDE A LOT OF INFORMATION ANDE VERY VALUABLE TO ERYBODY. SO THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER THEM QUICKLY. OTHERWISE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF. OH GOOD. HE'S HERE. I'M GONE. THANK YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] >> WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN DYER. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH HIM, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW BETTER THAN I DO. AGAIN, JEFF BARTON WITH GAP STRATEGIES, YOUR PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS PROJECT. I'M HERE WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER KARA BUFFINGTON. HER FATHER-IN-LAW WORKED FOR YOU ALL LONG AGO FOR THE CITY. AND WE'VE BEEN LEADING A TEAMWORKING WITH YOUR STAFF ON THIS PROJECT. SO I WANT TO WALK YOU THROUGH JUST A FEW THINGS TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE STUDY, THE TASK FORCE TO REMIND YOU WHAT'S GONE ON WITH OUTREACH. AND THEN REALLY TO PRESENT THE PRELIMINARY FINDINGS OR REALLY JUST THE FINDINGS OF THE TASK FORCE AT THE END OF PHASE ONE. SO AS YOU HEARD, THIS KICKED OFF BACK IN THE SPRING WITH SOME INITIAL WORK FOLLOWED UP QUICKLY BY COMMUTY SURVEY. AND THEN YOU ALL APPOINTED THE CITIZEN TASK FORCE WHICH HAS NOW HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, AS WELL AS A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE. LE WE WILL BE MOVING ON NOW AFTER THIS REPORT INTO PHASE II, AS WE BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THESE FINDINGS MIGHT LEAD US AND WHAT SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE. WE'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. GRAPHICALLY, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THIS TIMELINE, YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE ARE. WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP, SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER. THEN EARLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOWUP OPEN HOUSE AND ADDITIONAL MEETINGS OF THE TASK FORCE. HERE ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE THEMSELVES. YOU HEARD CHAIR DYER SAY IT'S BEEN FROM A FACILITATOR'S POINT OF VIEW, VERY STRONG INVOLVEMENT, GOOD COMMUNICATION, GOOD CONVERSATION. WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT WITH UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS REPORT TO MOVE FORWARD. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERY PIECE OF THIS REPORT WAS AGREEDO UNANIMOUSLY. THE TASK FORCE AGREED THAT IT WAS TIME TO WRAP UP THIS PHASE OF WORK, AGREED ON SOME OVERARCHING FINDINGS, AND THEN THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT ABOUT SOME OF THE PARTICULAR FINDINGS. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THE IDEA WAS TO MEET, HAVE DISCUSSION, LOOK AT THAT CITIZEN TASK FORCE, AND THEN TO FUNNEL DOWN TOWARDS DECISIONS THAT THIS GRAPHIC INDICATES. WE CAME BACK AFTER THOSE INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH AN OPEN HOUSE, PUTTING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THE TASK FORCE HAD WRESTLED WITH TO THE PUBLIC. HAD A THIRD MEETING AFTER THAT TO LOOK AT WHAT THE PUBLIC RESPONSE WAS AND TO HAVE SOME FINAL DISCUSSION WITH THE TASK FORCE BEFORE THEY SENT THESE FINDINGS TO YOU. A REMINDER ABOUT THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT I'VE REFERRED TO. THE INITIAL COMMUNITY SURVEY WAS AVAILABLE FOR ABOUT A MONTH IN THE SPRING. IT WAS AVAILABLE BOTH DIGITALLY AND IN PAPER COPIES FOR THOSE WHOANTE IT. GOT A VERY STRONG RESPONSE OF MORE THAN 6,100 PEOPLE. SOME OF THOSE WERE AT A LIVE IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE. THE NUMBERS HERE, 109 ATTENDEES, ARE AFTER EXCLUDING STAFF, CONSULTANTS, COUNCIL OR P&Z MEMBERS WHO STOPPED BY. SO THIS IS REALLY, AS I SAID CIVILIANS WHO SHOWED UP. EVEN MORE RESPONSE TO THE ONLINE OPEN HOUSE, MORE THAN 1,900 CITIZENS PARTICIPATED. AND THAT'S ON TOP OF YOUR EARLIER CITIZENS SURVEY WITH 6,000. SO VERY STRONG COMMUNITY INPUT. I WANT TO REMIND US ALL THIS IS NOT A RANDOM SAMPLE SCIENTIFIC SURVEY. THIS IS AN OPT-IN SURVEY. PEOPLE CHOSE TO PARTICIPATE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE OUT IN THE POLLING AND SURVEY WORLD RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHICH IS BETTER SINCE PEOPLE DON'T ANSWER THEIR PHONES MUCH. I JUST CAUTION YOU THAT WE ARE NOT PRESENTING IT AS PRECISE MEASUREMENT OF PUBLIC OPINION BUT AS A VERY STRONG INDICATOR, AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU GET FROM THIS IS VERY STRONG INDICATIONS OF WHERE YOUR PUBLIC, PARTICULARLY YOUR ENGAGED PUBLIC IS. SO OUT OF THIS PROCESS HAVE COME THREE PRIMARY FINDINGS THAT WERE THE RESULT OF SOME QUESTIONS THAT THE TASK FORCE ADDRESSED. THOSE QUESTIONS WERE DO STRs AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LE IN PLANO? PRIMARILY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE? ARE THERE APPROPRIATE PLACES FOR STRs ANYWHERE IN PLANO AND ARE COMPREHENSIVE REGULATIONS NEEDED? ABOUT STRs AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS WAS A VERY STRONG FINDING. LET ME BACK UP. THE FINDING, THE FIRST FINDING, IS THAT STRs DO AFFECT QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THEN THIS EFFECT IS MOSTLY NEGATIVE. AND THERE'S STRONG AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT DISAGREEMENT AS WELL THAT I WANT PEOPLE WHO FELT THIS PHRASE "MOSTLY NEGATIVE" WAS TOO STRONG. THE VOTE ON THAT FINDING WAS 13-3, TO GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF THAT. A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION AROUND THAT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE THAT I THINK WILL NEED TO BE EXPLORED AS THE COMMITTEE MOVES FORWARD. FINDING NUMBER TWO, THERE COULD BE -- COULD BE APPROPRIATE PLACES IN PLANO UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. AND THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS FINDING OF THE TASK FORCE. SO I THINK THE TASK FOR MEMBERS WERE CAREFUL NOT TO PUT ANY QUALIFICATIONS ON THAT YET. WHAT THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT BE IS THAT IN A CERTAIN PART IN THE CITY, IS THAT UNDER ZONING, UNDER REGULATION? THERE WAS JUST SIMPLY A WILLINGNESS TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE, LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL FOR APPROPRIATE PLACES, USES, OR CIRCUMSTANCES FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND THEN FINALLY, UNANIMOUS ALSO WAS THAT THE CITY SHOULD DEVELOP COMPREHENSIVE PERMANENT TO GOVERNED STRs IN PLANO. WE SAW VERY STRONG SUPPORT ON THE COMTTEE OF THIS, ON PEOPLE ALL SIDES OF THIS QUESTION. PEOPLE DISTURBED IN NEIGHBORHOODS BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO OPERATE STRs OR RENT STRs, THAT THERE'S A REAL NEED AND USE FOR REGULATIONS AND EVEN REGISTRATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS HERE IN PLANO. THERE WERE SOME CRITICAL ISSUES THAT FLOW FROM THESE FINDINGS THAT I WANT TO BRING BRIEFLY BECAUSE THEY BEGIN TO GET SOME OF THE SUBSTANCE OUT HERE. THERE WERE EIGHT CRITICAL ISSUES THAT FLOWED FROM THESE FINDINGS NUMBER ONE AND THREE WHICH, AGAIN, CALLED FOR REGULATION AND NOTED THAT THE OVERALL EFFECT OF STRs WAS NEGATIVE. CONSIDER OWNERS, USERS, AND GUESTS CURRENTLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LACK OF REGULATIONS. THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT THE TASK FORCE IDENTIFIED AS A CRITICAL ISSUE, THAT LACK OF STRONG MANAGEMENT OR SOMETIMES ONSITE MANAGEMENT CAN MAKE NEIGHBOR-TO-NEIGHBOR DISCUSSIONS AND RESOLUTION CHALLENGING AT THE VERY BEST. THAT THE EFFECT ON NEIGHBORHOOD CHACTE CAN BE SUBSTANTIAL, INCLUDING UNKNOWN PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND FREQUENT VACANCIES THAT CAUSE TURNOVER AND GET PEOPLE THAT MAYBE EXISTING NEIGHBORS DON'T RECOGNIZE OR MIGHT BE CONCERNED ABOUT. UNSAFE CONDITIONS AND OVER CROWDING THE PROPERTY, OBNOXIOUS USES, SUCH AS LATE-NIGHT PARTIES, THAT SORT OF THING, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT HERE IN YOUR MEETINGS REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ISSUE. THAT INCIDENCES OF UNSAFE USE OF FIREARMS AND USE OF PROPERTIES FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, THOUGH RELATIVELY RARE. WE DID FIND IN THE DATA THIS IS VERY RARE, AND YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ADDRESSED THOSE. BUT THOSE KINDS OF INCIDENCES HAVE REALLY CONTRIBUTED TO BROADER CONCERNS AND FEARS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY AND CHARACTER, CONTRIBUTED TO A PERCEPTION OF FEAR OR LACK OF SAFETY. AND THEN FINALLY, THAT A LACK OF REGISTRATION PROGRAM CURRENTLY LIMITS ENFORCEMENT. COMMUNITY FABRIC -- OH, I SAID FINALLY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHERS WE WORKED THROUGH. COMMUNITY FABRIC IS A CORE VALUE FOR THE CITY OF PLANO. AND THAT THERE IS BROAD CONCERN -- NOT UNANIMITY, BUT CONCERN ACROSS THE TASK FORCE, ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF THE TASK FORCE AT LEAST THAT STRs IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DIFFICULT TO RECONCILE WITH THIS VALUE OF COMMUNITY FABRIC, DIFFICULT TO RECONCILE. THEN THERE WAS FINDING TWO, WHICH REALLY SPEAKS TO WHETHER THERE COULD BE APPROPRIA PLACES APPROPRIATE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR STRs. AND THERE WERE SEVEN CONSIDERATIONS HERE THAT THE TASK FORCE WISH TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION. THE STRONGEST CONCERNS AND PROBLEMS VOICED AT BOTH THE TASK FORCE AND OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS FOCUSED ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WEREN'T OTHER CONCERNS, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE TASK FORCE HEARD TIME AND AGAIN AND WHAT WE SAW IN THE SURVEYS. A SMALL NUMBER OF STRs APPEAR TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, AND THIS SEEMS TO BE BORNE OUT ESPECIALLY IN THE DATA FROM YOUR STAFF AND YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY A VERY SMALL NUMBER CONTRIBUTE A VERY HIGH NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS. THE RESPONSIBLE LOCAL OWNERS AND OPERATORS APPEAR SUPPORTIVE OF SOME KIND OF REGULATION. I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME VARYING VIEWPOINTS ON WHAT THAT REGULATION SHOULD BE. BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBLE OWNERS WHO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING A BAD NAME FROM MAYBE A FEW IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS AND SUPPORT THAT'S BEING DRESSED IN SOME WAY. THAT SOME LOCAL FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES DERIVE SIGNIFICANT INCOME FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR LODGING THAT SOME VISITOS AND LOCAL RESIDENTS FIND USEFUL, WHETHER FOR TOURISM OR HOSTING OUT-OF-TOWN FAMILIES AND FRIENDS. THAT STRs GENERATE LOCAL HOT TAX REVENUES. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOTEL TAX REVENUES. THOUGH THERE'S A QUALIFY HERE THE NET ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF STRs ARE DEBATABLE AND HARD TO REFLECT PRECISELY. THERE ARE CERTAINLY PEOPLE WHO FEEL THERE ARE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC EFFECTS EITHER ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR ON THE CITY. AND SOME PLANO RESIDENTS SEE REGULATIONS, ESPECIALLY BAN WITHOUT EXCEPTION AS INFRINGEMENT ON PROPERTY RIGHTS AND PERSONAL LIBERTY. AGAIN, THESE ARE THE FINDINGS THAT THE REALLY SUPPORT AND THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT FLOW OUT OF THAT FINDING NUMBER TWO. THE NEXT STEPS I REFERRED EARLIER TO MEETINGS COMING UP, WILL BE BACK O NOVEMBER 15th. THERE IS AN OPEN HOUSE SCHEDULED ON THE 7th OF FEBRUARY. AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FROM THE TASK FORCE IN THERE WITH A PLAN TO REPORT BACK IN MARCH TO P&Z AND COUNCIL, GIVING YOU ALL TIME TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE BEFORE THE INTERIM BAN BEGINS TO EXPIRE. LAST THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IS THE TASK FORCE IN THIS PHASE TWO IS CHARGED AS WE UNDERSTAND AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THE TASK FORCE, WITH REALLY HELPING COME UP WITH BROAD GUIDELINES, GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF, AND WE'LL BE RELYING ON YOUR PLANNING STAFF, LEGAL STAFF, AND EXPERTS TO REALLY CRAFT ANY DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS AND ORDINANCES BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND CITY. WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> Mayor Muns: I HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM FIRST? LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE YOU COME BACK >> FINE. >> City Clerk: THE FIRST SPEAKER IS TATYANA RAMIREZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M TATYANA RAMIREZ, A PLANO RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS 14 HOUSES, TWO OF WHICH OPERATE AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS. WE BOUGHT OUR HOMES BECAUSE AMONG OTHER THINGS, IT WAS A VERY SAFE AND PLEASANT COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN. THE STR SITUATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NOW ESCALATED TO THE POINT OF HAVING ERASED OUR FORMER QUALITY OF LIFE. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE TIRED OF DEALING WITH. THE VALET PARKING, THE CONSTANT PARTY DELIVERIES, HAVING TO LOOK FOR THE EVENT MANAGER, THE DEEJAYS, THE CARS SCOUTING AND FILMING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CATERS, NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE OUR CARS FROM OUR DRIVEWAY, THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, THE WEDDINGS, THE EVENING PARTY SETUPS, THE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS, THE MIDNIGHT PARTY BUS, THE BOUNCER, THE NOW NDREDS OF STRANGERS THAT HAVE PARADED DOWN OUR STREET, THE UBER DROPOFF AND PICKUP, THE EXTREMELY QUESTIONABLE WOMEN AND MEN THAT WE HAV SEEN. THE WEEKEND-LONG PARTIES, THE INSANE AMOUNT OF TRASH, THE RATS, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE CONSTANT WORRY FOR OUR SAFETY. THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN. EVEN IN A HOTEL, YOU CANNOT DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. THERE IS SUPERVISION AND ACCOUN ACCOUNTABILITY. THERE IS NONE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THEY ARE HOLDING OUR NEIGHBORHOODHOAGE, AND WE WANT IT BACK. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE BAN SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> City Clerk: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CLARA DAMTY. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCILMEMBERS AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS CLARA DAMTY, A RESIDENT OF PLANO FOR THE PAST 13 YEARS. I'M A MOTHER OF THREE CHILDREN, AND I'M A PART OF THE TASK FORCE. ORIGINALLY I'M FROM ISRAEL. THESE ARE NOT EASY DAYS FOR ME AND MY FAMILY. AND YET, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO REPRESENT THE CONCERNS OF HOMEOWNERS. SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE MUCH MORE THAN JUST VACATION HOUSES. THEY PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN VARIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A WAY FOR STR OWNERS AND PLANO RESIDENTS TO CO-EXIST HARMONIOUSLY. ONE POTENTIAL SOLUTION (NO AUDIO). >> City Clerk: CINDY PATILLO. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CINDY PATILLO, AND I REPRESENT THE PLANO TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. IN THE SPRING OF 202, BILL FRANCE BEGAN SPEAKING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THEIR IMPACT ON OUR CITY. THE RESULT IS THAT A GROUP OF CONCERNED CITIZENS FORMED THE PLANO CHAPTER OF THE TEXAS NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO ADDRESSING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE. OUR ORGANIZATION, THE PLANO CHAPTER, WANTS TO ENSURE THAT PLANO REMAINS A CITY OF EXCELLENCE, THAT OUR NEIGHBORS AND SMALL BUSINESSES THRIVE, THAT OUR SCHOOLS REMAIN HIGHLY RANKED AND THAT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS PRESERVED. TO THAT END, AS WE'VE SHARED WITH THIS COUNCIL ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, OUR GOAL IS TO ELIMINATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO REGULATE THEM WHEREVER THEY ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE. WE HAVE NOT ADVOCATED FOR A COMPLETE BAN ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS ACROSS THE CITY. SHOULD YOU HEAR THAT FROM ANYONE OUTSIDE OF OUR ORGANIZATION, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY ARE MISTAKEN. AS WE REACH THE SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN THE TASK FORCE'S EFFORTS, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS OUR APPRECIATION TO THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, TO THE FORMER MAYOR, MR. DYER, WHO IS THE CHAIR. TO CHRISTINA DAY, LORI SCHWARZ, THEIR STAFFS, TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ALL WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS ISSUE. I HAVE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS AS AN OBSERVER AND IDENTIFIED A FO OF 19 MEMBERS, ROUGHLY 15 TO 20% OF THE TOTAL WHO CONSISTENTLY EXPRESS PRO-STR SENTIMENTS. THIS ALIGNS WELL WITH THE RESULTS OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SURVEY WHERE 18% OF RESPONDENTS INDICATED THEY WOULD FEEL MODERATELY COMFORTABLE OR VERY COMFORTABLE HAVING AN STR ON THEIR BLOCK. 73 -- 74% INDICATED THE OPPOSITE. WE KNOW A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PLANO HOUSEHOLDS ARE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. TAKEN TOGETHER, IT'S CLEAR THOSE WHO ARE PRO-STR HAVE A SIGNIFICANT VOICE IN THE CONVERSATION. THE COALITION UNDERSTANDS THAT FORMING A TASK FORCE WITH STRONG OPINIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE CAN BE CHALLENGING. WE COMMEND THE CITY FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A TASK FORCE THAT ALLOWS MULTIPLE VOICES AND PERSPECTIVES TO BE HEARD. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] . >> City Clerk: GREG PATILLO. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG PATILLO, A 30-YEAR RESIDENT OF THEITY OF PLANO. I, TOO, WANT TO APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN BOTH COMPLETING A SURVEY AND FORMING A TASK FORCE. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GATHER DATA, AND I THINK YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN BEHIND THAT ASPECT, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THE DATA IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE DATA THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING, SPECIFICALLY WITH CALLS FOR SERVICE AND SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT JUST CAME OUT THAT JEFF PRESENTED. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT ACTUALLY CREATES A CALL FOR SERVICE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT QUESTION 10, AND THIS IS A FILTERED VERSION, GAP STRATEGIES CREATED A FILTERED VERSION BECAUSE QUESTION 9 WAS HAVE YOU EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM, AND SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T EXPERIENCE A PROBLEM ANSWERED 10. THIS IS THE FILTERED DOWN EXCLUDING THOSE RESULTS. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS 39% SAID THEY DID NOTHING. 18% SAID THEY CONTACTED THE HOST/OWNER. % CONTACTED LAW ENFORCEMENT. 14, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. 10, STR LISTING PLATFORM. 9, PROPERTY MANAGER. 8, CITY OFFICIALS. 6%, CITY STAFF. 7% OTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT MAYBE PRAYERS INVOLVED SOMEHOW. SO I THINK THE THING TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT CALLS FOR SERVICE COME FROM THE PLANO POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 16% OF RESPONSE THAT SAYS THEY'VE ACTUALLY CONTACT, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SUGGEST THAT PLANO PD DOES NOT HAVE -- OR IT HAS LIMITED INSIGHT TO THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS THAT CITIZENS ARE FACING WITH IT. SIMILARLY, I THINK THAT SORT OF PRECLUDES THE FINDING THAT IT'S REALLY ONLY A SMALL GROUP OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE THAT DATA COMES FROM THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT PLANO PD DOES. I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB BECAUSE THIS GIVES YOU THE DATA THAT YOU NEED TO DEFEND WHEN SOMEONE ATTACKS YOU ON THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. BECAUSE IT SAYS EVEN THOUGH AS WE HAVE TRIED TO GET PEOPLE TO DO THISHIEF -- THE CHIEF ACTUALLY MENTIONED THAT ONE POINT THE NUMBERS JUMPED SLIGHTLY AND STARTED TO GO FROM THERE. HE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THAT. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT CAUSED THAT, IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU PRESENTED CFS AND SAID THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM. WE AS CITIZENS KNEW WE NEEDED TO GET ON THE PHONE WITH PD OR WE'D CONTINUE TO HEAR IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE JUST DON'T SEE IT. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN USE THIS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CFS NUMBER REALLY MEANS TO OUR CITY D WT IT MEANS WITH PEOPLE HAVING ISSUES WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] THANKS AGAIN FOR THE REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SORRY WE MADE YOU WAIT. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. LET'S MOVE ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. TURN ON MY MIC. >> THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE ACTED UPON IN ONE MOTION AND CONTAINS ITEMS WHICH ARE ROUTINE AND TYPICALLY NONCONTROVERSIAL. ITEMS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THIS AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANY CITIZEN. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND >> Mayor Muns: TOO LATE. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE VOTE. HOW DO YOU VOTE, SHELBY? >> Williams: YES. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES 8-0. >> PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. APPLICANTS ARE LIMITED TO 15 MINUTES PRESENTATION TIME WITH A FIVE-MINUTE REBUTTAL, IF NEEDED. REMAINING SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO 30 TOTAL MINUTES OF TESTIMONY TIME, WITH THREE MINUTES ASSIGNED PER SPEAKER. THE PRESIDING OFFICER MAY AMEND THESE TIMES AS DEEMED NECESSARY. NONPUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL PERMIT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA NOT POSTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. THE PRESIDING OFFICER WILL ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKER REQUESTS, LENGTH OF THE AGENDA, AND TO ENSURE MEETING EFFICIENCY, AND MAY INCLUDE A CUMULATIVE TIME LIMIT. SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED UNTIL THE CUMULATIVE TIME IS EXHAUSTED. ITEM NUMBER ONE. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023-013 TO AMEND THE COMPHENSE ZONG ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NO. 2015-5-2, AS HERETOFORE AMENDED, REZONING 7.9 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF MUNICIPAL AVENUE AND 13TH STREET IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, FROM LIGHT INDUSTRIAL-1 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT-63-DOWNTOWN BUSINESS/GOVERNMENT MODIFYING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS; DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAUSE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, P EFFECTIVE DATE. >> HELLO, AGAIN, ZONING CASE 2021-NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM ITS CURRENT ZONING OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL 1 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, NUMBER 63, TO A -- WITH A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT BASED ZONING. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MAP OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY, IT IS MUNICIPAL OR L AVENUE, AND 13th STREET AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICE BOUNDARIES, BOTH HUNDRED FEET AND 500 FEET ON THE MAP SHOWN, AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING. IT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO THE DART RAIL LINE WITH THE SILVER LINE STATION, BEING CONSTRUCTED TO THE WEST, THE SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY. PERHAPS CAN SEE THAT BETTER ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH. THISS T PROPERTYS IT APPEARS TODAY, OR MAYBE NOT EXACTLY TODAY, BUT IN THE RECENT TIME FRAME, WHEN THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN, IT'S INDICATED BY THE YELLOW BOUNDARIES, THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE VICINITY OF THE PROPERTY. IT HAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF STORAGE ON THE PROPERTY, AND A KIND OF LANDSCAPING AND SUPPLY BUSINESS WITH VARIOUS RENTAL SPAS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY. SO THE PROPOSAL, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS YOU THE VARIOUS USES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED UNDER THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT ZONING. YOU CAN SEE THE -- THERE IS A PROPOSAL FOR A MODIFIED VERSION OF MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND A OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LABELED LOT 2. THERE IS A PUBLIC WAY OR STREET THAT WILL SEGREGATE THOSE USES AND PROVIDE ACCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY. IT IS PARKED BY A PARKING GARAGE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE, AND SURFACE PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE AS PROPOSED. THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S MUCH FANCIER VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN OR THE CONCEPT COMPARED TO THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU SAW PREVIOUY AND PERHAPS GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF THEIR PROPOSAL. YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTIAL USES IN YELLOW AND THE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT IN THE KIND OF PINK COLOR WITH THE DESIGN OF THE DRIVE GOING THROUGH. IT'S ALMOST KIND OF STRIPED. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE ADJACENT DART SILVER LINE TRACKS AND AVENUE, M AVENUE ALONG 13th STREET TO THE NORTH, AND THEN MUNICIPAL AVENUE PROVIDING THE PRIMARY ACCESS TO THE WEST. SO WHAT DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS AREA? IT IS KIND OF AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR LAND USE CATEGORY IN THIS AREA, AND IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. HOWEVER, THE MIX OF USES DOES TRIGGER THE FINDING POLICY IN THIS AREA, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THIS PER THEIR VOTE, AND THEY DID EACH COMPLETE A FINDINGS FORM. YOU'LL SEE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER FOUR MAPS OF THE PLAN, REDEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION POLICY, TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT POLICY. THERE'S ALSO FINDINGS UNDER THE REDEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICIES. AND THE -- BUT IT IS PARTIALLY COMPLIANT WITH DOWNTOWN VISIONND STRATEGY AND IT DOES MEET THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION PLAN. SO WE WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THE PURPOSE OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT IS DEFINED, CREATE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS FOR A INTENT TO PROVIDE FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE INNOVATION, MITIGATE DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS, AND PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE AESTHETIC AND VISUAL QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT, SO WE HOPE IF WE'RE CREATING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WE'RE DOING IT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND IN ALLIANCE WITH THESE PURPOSES STATED WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO WHAT IS THE INTENT HERE? IT IS TO ADD RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO A TRANSIT STATION. WE BELIEVE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRANSIT POCIESN THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE NONRESIDENTIAL USE AND ZONING SO IT -- THE CURRENT BG ZONING DISTRIT DOES NOT ALLOW THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL USE, AND SO BEING ABLE TO ALLOW THAT OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CHANGE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, AND THEN IT DOES ALSO CREATE THAT INTERNAL STREET ALIGNMENT AND ADD THOSE STANDARDS. SO THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCES AS PROPOSED, THEY ARE LIMITED IN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO 390 UNITS. THERE'S A MODIFICATION. THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT DISTRICT DOES HAVE A 300 UNIT CAP PER BLOCK. THIS GIVES A ADJUSTMENT TO 390, AND IT'S THE -- THE PROPERTY IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF ITS TRIANGULAR SHAPE, SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT DUE TO THE SCALE AND UNIQUE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY. IT ADJUSTS THE HEIT AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN IT A ALSO ASKS FOR -- THERE'S TIMING OF MULTI-FAMILY CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS PROPOSED, BASED ON PERMITS JANUARY 1, 2025, AND ADDITIONAL PD STIPULATIONS RELATED TO MULTI-FAMILY THAT ARE DETAILED ON A FUTURE SLIDE. YOU ALSO SEE AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE A YELLOW AREA WHERE THERE'S A SETBACK WHERE YOU HAVE TIERED DEVELOPMENT HEIGHTS, LIMITED TO FOUR STORIES AND LIMITED HEIGHT IN THAT -- THAT AREA AT THE NORTHERN END CLOSEST TO THE PRIMARILY SINGLE STORY DEVELOPMENT ALONG 13th STREET. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT WITH RESTRICTIONS. THERE IS AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING THAT IS 2100 SQUARE FEET, AND THAT NONRESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION IS N ACTUALLY REQUIRED BY THE ZONING, SO WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. BUT THERE WILL NEED TO BE A USE FOR THIS PROPERTY SO WHETHER IT IS THE PROPOSED USE OR ANOTHER USE WITH THE CAP OF 390 UNITS, IT WILL EITHER BE THE OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL UNIT OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF NONRESIDENTIAL USE IF THE 390 UNITS ARE FULLY DEVELOPED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO THE TIMING STANDARDS, AGAIN VERTICAL RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION CANNO OCCUR UNTIL EITHER JANUARY 1 OF 2025, SO ESSENTIALLY AROUND 14 MONTHS OUT, OR THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IN REPURPOSING OF 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL SPACE. SO THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT STIPULATIONS, WE'VE GOT THEM ON THE SLIDES, I WON'T READ THEM ALL TO YOU, BUT YOU SEE THERE ARE STIPULATIONS RELATED TO THE OUTDO COMMERCIAL AMUSEMET SPACE, AND WHERE IT IS LOCATED AND HOW IT'S OPERATING, THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCES, THERE ARE A LOT OF STIPULATIONS THERE RELATED TO NUMBER OF UNITS, HEIGHT, AND THE DESIGN OF THE RESIDENCES. AND THEN THEIR GENERAL PROVISIONS AGAIN RELATED TO THE STREETS, FENCING, LANDSCAPING AND PARKING. WE CAN GO BACK OVER THOSE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, BUT THE FEEDBACK WE HAD WITHIN 200 FEET, SO RELATED TO THE SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENTS, WE HAD EVERYTING IN SUPPORT WITHIN 200 FEET, 8 IN SUPPORT, THAT WAS 7.1 ACRES, SO VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT. I THINK THAT INCLUDES THE PROPERTY ITSELF, SO I WOULD NOT CONSIDER THE 89.9% TO BE ACCURATE ANALYS OF WHAT IS IN THE B BUFFER ZONE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NO OPPOSITION. AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OVERALL, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES, WE HAVE 44 IN SUPPORT AND 4 IN OPPOSITION FOR A UNIQUE TOTAL OF 48 RESPONSES. WE DID HAVE TWO DUPLICATES THAT WERE REMOVED AND WE WANTED TO NOTE THAT TWO OF THE RESPONSES ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF PLANO. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE SPREADSHEET THAT YOU RECEIVED VIA E-MAIL, AND THEN BOTH OF THOSE WERE IN SUPPORT. SO THE PROPOSAL AGAIN JUST IN SUMMARY IS FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS GOVERNMENT ZONING WITH MODIFIED STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BASED ON MODIFICATION TO THE ORIGINAL REQUEST. THE VOTE WAS 6-0, THE P&Zs MODIFIED THE DATE REQUESTED ORIGINALLY. AND THEN THAT WAS IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS REQUIRED, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST DOES REQUIRE FINDINGS BY THE CITY COUNCIL UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST AS IT DID WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THIS REQUEST. >> A QUESTION FOR CHRISTINE? OKAY, GO AHEAD, MAYOR PRO TEM. >> YOU QUICKLY MENTIONED THE COMMISSION MODIFIED THE DATE. CAN YOU GO BACK THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING? >> YES. TING TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION? >> YES, IT'S THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION. THEY -- THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION, I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS 2024 AND I'M NOT -- YES, 2024, AND CHANGED TO 2025. >> >> Prince: SO THEY ORIGINALLY SAID 2004, THE COMMISSION CHANGED IT TO JANUARY 1, 2005. 2025. >> I BELIEVE -- >> IT WAS JANUARY 1, 2025, BUT IT WAS THE WORDING BEFORE THAT THAT WAS MODIFIED AT P&Z. IN ADDITION THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET WAS CHANGED TO 22,000 SQUARE FEET DURING P&Z. >> SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE WORDING BEFORE THAT THAT WAS MODIFIED? >> YEAH, THAT THE WORDING THAT WAS BEFORE, I'M LOOKING FOR IT RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY. IT'S MY MISUNDERSTANDING OF THAT MODIFICATION, I THOUGHT I WAS THE TIME FRAME THAT WAS MODIFIED, SO SHE WILL LOOK UP THE EXACT LANGUAGE. >> Mayor Muns: IT'S BASICALLY, YOU CAN'T START ON THE MULTI-FAMILY, BUT IF YOU START ON THE 22,000, THEN -- >> THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT, BUT NOW I'M -- >> I'M NOT SURE. TAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I THOUGHT THE DATE HAD CHANGED AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT MISUNDERSTANDING. >> Prince: OKAY, BUT IN THE PACKET, WHAT YOU SAID WHERE IT SAYS RESIDENTIAL -- IT WOULD DELAY THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE UNTIL THE EARLIER OF JANUARY 1 OR PERMIT TO REPURPOSE 5,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT HERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT 5,000 GOT CHANGED TO 22,000. >> CORRECT. >> Prince: EITHER WAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT'S NOT REALLY -- EVEN IF WE GET TO JANUARY 1, 2025, AND THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THAT 22,000 SQUARE FEET, THEY CAN JUST MOVE AHEAD ON A MULTI-FAMILY, CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT, BECAUSE AS LONG AS IT'S JANUARY 1, THEY CAN MOVE AHEAD. >> Prince: OKAY. WASHERE ANY DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT SAYING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF MULTI-FAMILY NEEDED TO HAPPEN AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 22,000 SQUARE FEET? >> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. >> Prince: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE DO HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS. THERE'S FIVE THAT ARE PART OF THE APPLICANT GROUP. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION QUEUED UP,S THAT -- ADVANCE THE SLIDE FORWARD. GREAT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PEERS CRAVENS, MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 1028 17th STREET IN DOWNTOWN PLANO. I'M ALSO THE GENERAL PARTNER OF 2022 PLANO LUNA, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION. GIVEN THE CITY'S INVESTITURE IN THE CITY LINE ON 12th STREET WHICH YOU KNOW IS UNDER CRUX. CONSTRUCTION. OUR FAMILY REAL ESTATE COMPANY HAS BEEN DEVELOPING AND INVESTING IN PLANO FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS, WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER 3,000 SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION LOTS, LARGE SCALE HIGHRISE PROJECTS AND INDUSTRIAL PARK AND APARTMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF PLANO. 20 YEARS AGO WE BECAME INTERESTED IN INVESTING AND DEVELOPING IN DOWNTOWN PLANO SPECIFICALLY AFTER WE ACIRED THE BUILDING THAT EVENTUALLY BECAME THE FILL MORE PUB. WE CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SILING VER LINE HAS FURTHER ENCOURAGED OUR INVESTMENT APPETITE, RECENTLY WE COMPLETED 52 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX AT 15th AND MUNICIPAL A BOUTIQUE TOWN HOME COMMUNITY. WE'RE ALSO CONSTRUCTING ANOTHER PROJECT ON 10th STREET AS WELL, SUFFICE TO SAY WE'VE BEEN LONG-TERM LOCAL OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN PLANO AND HAVE NO REQUEST IN HAVING IT ANY OTHER WAY. WE PURCHASED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LAST AUGUST AND AFTER A LONG VETTING PROCESS, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BRING THESE TWO PARTNERS TO THE TABLE WHO ARE READY TO GO. SEAN LUTHER IS HERE WITH HINES TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND HIS COMPANY AS WELL AS MATT CARTER WITH BOULDIN ACRES. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS SEAN LUTHER, I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTS HINES, THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT. QUICK BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE. HINES WAS FOUNDED IN 1957 BY THEATEARELD HINES AND WAS FOUNDED IN HOUSTO. THE FIRM STARTED DEVELOPING SMALL INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE PROJECTS AND SINCE THEN WE'VE GROWN TO BE IN 32 COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, AND ARE CURRENTLY THE LARGEST PRIVATELY OWNED REAL ESTATE FIRM IN THE WORLD. HERE IN DALLAS LOCALLY WE HAVE OVER 20 ACTIVE PROJECTS SPANNING ALL PRODUCT TYPES, WE'RE INVOLVED IN INDUSTRIAL SELF-STORAGE MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY, OFFICE, MULTI-FAMILY AND MIXED USE. DEVELOPING THE HIGHEST QUALITY REAL ESTATE IS IN OUR DNA AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT HERE IN PNO. WE'RE VERY ATTRACTED TO THIS SITE EARLY ON. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CRAVENS FOR ALMOST 18 MONTHS NOW, AND THERE ARE REALLY TWO THINGS THAT WE GOT EXCITED ABOUT WITH THIS SITE. WE LOOK AT A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE METROPLEX AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN PLANO, BUT WHAT REALLY EXCITED US WAS THE FACT THAT THIS IS LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN PLANO. WE TYPICALLY LOOK FOR VIBRANT, MIXED USE COMMUNITIES, AND DOWNTOWN PLANO IS ONE. WE LOVE THIS AREA. WE THINK IT'S WALKABLE, IT'S ROOTED IN HISTORY. AND IT HAS TRUE COOL FACTOR THAT WE THINK IS VERY ATTRACTIVE. SECONDLY, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE BOULDIN ACRES TEAM. IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT YOU HAVE A OPERATOR THAT ALSO WANTS TO BE AN OWNER AND THEY WANT TO OWN LONG-TERM, AND THIS IS A GROUP THAT IS WELL CAPITALIZED AND WE THINK REALLY FITS THE MOLD OF WHAT DOWNTOWN IS ABOUT. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT CARTER WHO IS WITH BOULDIN ACRE, HE CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THEIR STORY AND EXISTING LOCATIONS IN AUSTIN. >> PREPARING A SONG, WE OPENED THE FIRST BOULDIN IN JANUARY OF 2020, WHICH IF YOU REMEMBER WAS ABOUT 6 WEEKS BEFORE A PRETTY HARD TIME. THAT SHAPED WHAT BOULDIN ACRES IS. DURING THAT TIME, I HAD MY FIRST CHILD AS WELL, SO WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO BE A FAMILY FRIENDLY PLACE THAT WAS VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I ALSO MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE JUST OPENED OUR SECOND LOCATION NORTH AUSTIN, WITH THE SAME MISSION, AGAIN BEING VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS, WE ALLOW FAMILIES, DOGS, WE HAVE A STRONG CONTINGENCY OF 20 TO 30 SOMETHING PROFESSIONALS THAT COME IN, KIND OF SOMEHOW CREATED A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S WHERE MY INLAWS LOVE TO COME, BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN TOWN, AND IT'S WHERE WE LIKE TO TAKE OUR KID TO PLAY ON THE PLAYGROUND. WE INCORPORATED PICKLE BALL COURTS BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THE CITY OF AUSTIN DID NOT THINK THAT WE HAD ENOUGH PARKING, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET A VARIANCE BASED ON SPORT COURT BEING LESS PEOPLE, AND THAT WAS AWESOME. I MEAN, I PLAYED PICKLE BALL ON VACATION MULTIPLE TIMES AND THOUGHT THAT IT WAS KIND OF THE PERFECT GAME OR SPORT FOR RESTAURANT BAR CONCEPTS, ANYBODY CAN PLAY IT. IT'S NOT FUN TO PLAY IF YOU'RE REALLY GOOD AGAINST SOMEBODY WHO IS REALLY BAD, SO YOU PLAY TO THE LEVEL OF YOUR COMPETITION, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE PERFECT GAME. PEOPLE PLAY AND SIT AROUND AND HAVE A BEERFTERWARDS AND WATCH SOME SPORTS. WICH PARTNERED WITH CM SMOKE HOUSE, WHICH IS SOME OF THE BEST BARBECUE IN AUSTIN. DANIEL VAUGHN FROM TEXAS MONTHLY, THE BARBECUE EDITOR OF TEXAS MONTHLY SPEAKS HIGHLY OF CM SP SMOKE HOUSE, IT'S LIKELY THEY WILL BE WRITTEN ABOUT MORE THAN THEY HAVE BEEN IN TEXAS MONTHLY. I HEARD THE QUESTION ABOUT COMMENCING CONSTRUCTION OF THE APARTMENTS AFTER THE COMPLETION OF BOULD ACRES. IT'S HARD TO OPERATE A RESTAURANT NEXT TO A GIANT CONSTRUCTION SITE. I'VE DONE IT, IF THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR TWO YEARS, THAT'S A REALLY LONG TIME TO HAVE DUST AND TRASH AND STUFF THAT I MEAN THEY WORK REALLY HARD TO NOT HAVE, W BUT IT JUST HAPPENS, IT'S PART OF IT, SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO LET THEM START AS SOON AS WE ARE PERMITTED AND READY TO ROCK AND ROLL. W'RE VERY WELL CAPITALIZED, WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AS SOON AS WE'RE APPROVED, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I GOT. >> OUR VISION IS TO CREATE A SOUTHERN GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN THROUGH QUALITY DESIGN BASED ON TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PRINCIPLES, WE SEEK TO COMBINE HOUSING IN A DESTINATION RESTAURANT USE WHICH I AS A RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN PLANO FEEL IS LACKING, WE'RE TRYING TO FULFILL THE CITY'S VISION TO PROVIDE A DEVELOPMENT THAT PROMOTES WALKABILITY AND CONNECTS THE REST OF DOWNTOWN WITH THIS NEW 12th STREET STATION. WE SEEK TO PARTNER WITH SITE THA GIVES A NOD TOUR DOWNTOWN HISTORY. CURATING EVENTS THAT MAKES DOWNTOWN A DESTINATION, HOWEVER OUTSIDE OF THESE EVENTS THERE ARE VERY FEW ACTIVITIES AND BUSINESSES THAT KEEP PEOPLE DOWNTOWN FOR LONGER THAN A MEAL OR A QUICK SHOPPING TRIP. BOULDIN ACRES HOWEVER AND PICKLE BALL MORE BROADLY IS A DESTINATION USE WITH A MARKET RADIUS THAT EXTENDS 20 MILES, AS MATT MENTIONED IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY, COMMERCIAL USE THAT YOU CAN SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY. MANY BUSINESS OWNERS HERE DOWNTOWN WILL TELL YOU THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES. AND I THINK IT'S FURTHER EMPHASIZED BY THE VACANT RETAIL THAT YOU SEE ALONG 14th STREET. THIS DEVELOPMENT IN OUR OPINION IS A CATALYST THAT THIS AREA NEEDS TO THRIVE AND SPUR ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT AND PATRONAGE IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND BUSINESSES. LOCATIONWISE STAFF MENTIONED OUR SITE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SILVER LINE STATION, WE PARALLEL THE DARK TRACK TO THE SOUTH, 13th STREET TO THE NORTH WITH MUNICIPAL AVENUE ON THE WEST AND N AVENUE TO THE EAST. WHY THIS SITE? IN 2022, THE AE COME STUDY AT T CIT COMSSIOD DETAILED PROPERTIES THAT WERE OF HIGH REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AROUND THE 12th STREET AND SHILOH STREET STATION N THAT STUDY ONLY ONE PROPERTY HAD A GOLD STAR WITH THE DESCRIPTOR OF A CATALYST SITE, AND THAT WAS THIS SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING. ITS LOCATION IS GREAT IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY AND ACCESSIBILITY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE DART STATION, LARGE PARCELS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO AGGREGATE IN THIS PART OF THE CITY. THIS ONE TOOK NEARLY 3 YEARS TO PUT TOGETHER, AND ITS LARGE SIZE ALLOWS FOR A MORE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT TO TAKE PLACE TO COMPLIMENT THAT DART STATION, BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE AND SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT WILL STIMULATE FURTHER INVESTMENT AND AGGREGATION AROUND THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT STATE OF THE SITE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE ENVISION, THE CURRENT USE ENCOMPASSES HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND BUILDING MATERIAL STORAGE, WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF SHORT AND MID TERM TENANTS AND IT IS IN A BLIGHTED CONDITION AS YOU CAN SEE. DESPITE ITS APPEARANCE AND BEING UNDERUTILIZED IT IS AN ECONOMICALLY PERFORMING PROPERTY, BUT WE FEEL IT DOES NOTHING TO COMPLIMENT THE AESTHETIC OF DOWNTOWN. WITH ITS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WE FT HAS OUTLIVED ITS LOCATION AND OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE BY RIGHT UNDER OUR CURRENT ZONING NAMELY MINI WAREHOUSE, MINI STORAGE LIKEWISE DO NOTHING TO COMPLIMENT THE CITY. SEAN IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH OUR SITE PLAN HERE. SEAN? SO THE SITE PLAN, ITS THOUGHT FLY DESIGNED TO PROVIDE DESTINATION RESTAURANT EXPERIENCE FOR PLANO RESIDENTS WHILE ALSO MEETING THE HIGH QUALITY HOUSING NEED OF A GROWING DOWNTOWN AREA. GIVEN OUR PROXIMITY TO THE DART LINE AND THE FUTURE 12th STREET STATION, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW TO ORIENT THIS PROJECT IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THE CITY'S VISION FOR A GATEWAY INTO DOWNTOWN. THE EAST PORTION OF THE SITE I'LL START WITH, THE PINK BUILDINGS, WE INCLUDED ABOUT 2.5 ACRES DEDICATED TO THE NEW PICKLE BALL RESTAURANT CONCEPT INCLUDING PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING 22,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE, WHICH WAS HISTORICALLY USED AS AN AGRICULTURAL PROCESSING FCILITY. OLD -- THE OLD WAREHOUSE WILL HAVE SIX INDOOR PICKLE BALL COURTS, IN ADDITN TO A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED 6,000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT, WHERE BOULDIN ACRES WILL SERVE FOOD AND DRINK. AN OUTDOOR GAME LAWN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS WE'LL UTILIZE FOR LEISURE, VARIOUS GAMES AND ACTIVITIES. MOVING TO THE WEST PORTION OF THE SITE, WE DESIGNED A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT WITH AN ADJACENT STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE. WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT CONSULTANT TEAM HERE, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT HERE SPECIFICALLY. SO THE RECTANGULAR GARAGE IS ORIENTED PARALLEL WITH THE DART TRACK, THIS IS DONE TO MINIMIZE EXPOSURE TO THE REDENT EXPERIENCE.NCE THE THE LEASING OFFICE, AMENITIES AND THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE MULTI-FAMILY ARE ORIENTED FACING SOUTH ON MUNICIPAL, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. THIS IS DONE TO MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF UNITS FACING THE DART TRACK, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING THE QUICKEST AND THE MOST CONVENIENT ROUTE FOR DART RIDERS TO GO TO AND FROM THEIR RESIDENCES, FINALLY, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE A WIDE RANGE OF UNIT SIZES FROM APPROXIMATELY 500 SQUARE FEET TO 1300 SQUARE FEET APPEALING TO A BROAD RANGE OF INCOME LEVELS. WE ALSO DESIGNED FLEX UNITS AT THE GROUND LEL ALONG BOTH MUN, ALLOWING FOR AN ACTIVATED STREET SCAPE EXPERIENCE AND FUTURE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG BOTH OF THOSE STREETS. BETWEEN THE RESTAURANTS AND THE MULTI-FAMILY, WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO CIRCULATE THROUGH THIS SITE? AND WE'VE DONE THAT BY ACCOMPLISHING OR BY DESIGNING, RATHER, A CURB LIST AND WALKABLE STREET THAT PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN USE AND INVITES DART RIDERS TO ENTER THE SITE AND MOVE FREELY BETWEEN THE USES. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT IS SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE STREETS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE IN EUROPE, THAT'S WHERE THE TERM COMES FROM, WHERE THERE'S NO CURBS AND IT PROMOTES BOTH VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. AND WE'VE ALSO LASTLY DESIGNED THE SHARED STREET TO BE OFFSET FROM M AVENUE, WHICH IS INTENDED TO REDUCE THE SPEED OF CARS GOING INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE, PROMOTE MORE WALKABILITY AND CREATE THAT FRIENDLY PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE BETWEEN THE USES. SO REALLY QUICKLY, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE EXISTING IMAGES OF BOULDIN ACRES, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ART IS A BIG PART OF THIS, WE INTEND TO HAVE MANY NODS TO HISTORY IN THIS PROJECT, JUST GIVEN THE CONTEXT THAT IT'S IN, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT BOULDIN ACRES BRINGS TO THE TABLE WITH THAT DESIGN. JUMPING INTO THE RENDERING THAT WE'VE PRODUCED FOR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY, THE FIRST RENDERING SHOWS AN IMAGE AT DUSK, THAT IS AT YOUR PEDESTRIAN SCALE, THIS IS THE VIEWER LOOKING SOUTH FROM 13th STREET, INTO BOULDIN ACRES, YOU CAN SEE THE MULTI-FAMILY RISING BEHIND ON THE RIGHT SIDE. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE CREATED A VRY PEOPLE FOCUSED PROJECT HERE, SO FAMILY FRIENDLY, PET FRIENDLY, OFFERING A PLACWHER T RESIDENTS OF PLANO CAN SPEND MULTIPLE HOUS TOGETHER AND ENJOY A UNIQUE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR EXPERIENCE. THE SECOND RENDERING HERE IS A VIEW NORTH, FROM MUNICIPAL AVENUE, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LEASING CENTER, THE DOG PARK IN THE FOREGROUND AND YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE THE TRANSIT-ORIENTED NATURE OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE DART LINE PASSING ON THE RIGHT SIDE HERE. THIS IMAGE REALLY EMPHASIZES THE MATERIALITY THAT WE WANT TO GO FOR HERE. WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT WITH OUR ARCHITECT TEAM INTO HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE BRIC OF DOWNTOWN. WE DON'T JUST WANT TO STICK A BUILDING THERE THAT IT DOESN'T FIT THE CONTEXT OF WHAT DOWNTOWN IS, AND SO WE FOCUSED ON USING A LOT OF BRICK AND GOING WITH AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WE THINK WILL BE TIMELESS AND, YOU KNOW, FIT IN UNIQUELY AND BE IN LINE WITH WHAT ELSE -- THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE IN DOWNTOWN. SO I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO PIERCE, GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WE'VE DONE TO DATE. >> THANK YOU, SEAN. OUTREACH WISE WE VISITED WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, HOAs IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND RECEIVED OVERWHELMING SUPPORT, WE'VE ALSO ATTENDED THE SILVER LINE AREA STATION STUDY, THE SILVER LINE CHARRETTE, AND AGAIN AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR HEAT MAP, WE'VE GARNERED SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT. IN SUMMARY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS NOT JUST ANOTHER APARTMENT COMMUNITY AND COMMERCIAL USE BUT RATHER A DESTINATION USE THAT WILL SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SPUR GREATER DEVELOPMENT. AS A RESIDENT OF DNTOW AND A PROPERTY OWNER OF DOWNTOWN, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, PIERCE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> I DO, PIERCE, REALLY JUST -- WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WITH YOUR TEAM HERE, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE CONSTRUCTION HERE AGAIN. I'M KIND OF GETTING MIXED SIGNALS HERE, SOMEWHAT CONFUSED. ARE WE GOING TO -- ARE YOU PLANNING TO START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX FIRST AND THEN HAVE IT FOLLOWED WITH REDEVELOPMENT, WITH THE PICKLE BALL COURTS AND THE RESTAURANT. >> NO. >> HORNE: BECAUSE OUR PARTNER WAS INDICATED HE DIDN'T WANT TO START THE RESTAURANT PART FIRST BECAUSE OF THE DEBRIS, NOISE, DUST, I UNDERSTAND YOUR AGONY THERE, FROM A RESTAURANT PERSPECTIVE, BUT CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY TO THAT FOR ME? >> SURE. SO IN TERMS OF I GUESS WE CAN SEPARATE THAT INTO TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION RIGHT? SO THE HORIZONTAL CONSTRUCTION OF THIS SITE WILL NEED TO BE DONE AT ONE TIME, JUST GIVEN THE FACT THAT SO MANY ELEMENTS ARE SHARED. WHAT BRINGS IN A LITTLE BIT OF SOME COMPLEXITIES IS THAT THERE ARE TWO PARTIES THAT ARE SHARING IN THAT OVERALL CONSTRUCTION. BUT I CAN HAVE SEAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HIS TIME LINE SO TO SPEAK AND CERTAINLY MATT AS WELL. >> SURE. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE RESTAURANT AND PICKLE BALL WILL BE OWNED BY A SEPARATE PARTNERSHIP FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, SO THAT'S WHY THE TWO OF THEM INHERENTLY IT'S DIFFICULT TO TIE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER, BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF INVESTORS. SO THE ABILITY FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION REALLY CAN'T BE TIED TO SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY OUT OF THAT PARTNERSHIP'S CONTROL. I WILL SAY TO MATT'S POINT, THEY ARE READY TO GO, BOTH PARTIES ARE READY TO GO AND WANT TO GET CONSTRUCTION STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND SO I THI ITOULD BENEFIT BOTH PARTIES TO MOVE EXTREMELY QUICKLY, IT'S JUST THAT TYING THEM TOGETHER FORMALLY IS DIFFICULT, AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT OUTSIDE DATE OF JANUARY 1, 2025. >>> AND I WAS JUST SAYING OPERATING AS LITTLE TIME AS POSSIBLY CAN WHILE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR. I'S NOT REALISTIC FOR US TO SAY THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR WHEN WE OPEN, BECAUSE WE PLA ON OPENING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT IF THEY DON'T START UNTIL WE OPEN, THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL YEA SIX MONTHS, 18 MONTHS OF US OPERATING WHILE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION NEXT DOOR AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE IT'S ONLY 6 MONTHS, MAYBE IT'S 12 MONTHS. >> AND ONE OF THE THINGS, TOO, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MATT, BUT GIVEN THE -- GIVEN THE MARKET RADIUS THAT HIS BUSINESS SEES, IT IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ADJACENT TO IT. IT'S A POSITIVE EXTERNALITY. IT'S A NICE TO HAVE, NOT A NEED TO HAVE, THAT HE SEES WITH HIS BUSINESS. >> SO EXPLAIN WHAT P&Z ADDED TO THE APPROVAL, IF YOU COULD. SO WE CAN ALL BE CLEAR. >> SURE. SO IT WAS INCREASING WITHIN THE PD STIPULATION INITIALLY IT WAS ASKING FOR A -- THE -- IT TIED TO A BUILDING PERMIT OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL, AND THAT WAS INCREASE TO 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL. >> WE HAVE THE OTHER ITEM. AGAIN, APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION ON THAT, IT WAS ADDING FLEX SPACE UNITS ON THE GROUND FLOOR, THAT WAS THE OTHER ITEM. >> AND TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AS WELL, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN AN INITIAL ITERATION OF SOME STIPULATIONS THAT WE PROPOSED, I BELIEVE WE WERE ASKED TO REMOVE THEM AND THEN THERE AGAIN ADD P&Z, IT WAS ASKED THAT WE INCLUDE THEM AGAIN, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO OBLIGE. >> I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT. SO THE -- THE PLANNING AND ZONING ASKED FOR THE FLEX SPACE TO BE AT HOW MUCH FLEX SPACE? >> IT STATES THAT THE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING MUST BE CONSTRUCTED WITH FLEX SPACE UNITS ON THE GROUND FLOOR. FLEX SPACE UNITS MUST HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL ENTRANCE AND MUST -- AND A MINIMUM FLOOR-TO-CEILING SEPARATION OF NINE FEET, SO THE WHOLE GROUND FLOOR IS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. >> EXTERIOR FACING -- >> HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THAT? >> THAT'S NOT DEFINED. >> WE DO HAVE OUR ARCHITECT HERE -- >> RIG, BUT IT DOESN'T -- IN YOUR DEFINITION OF FLEX SPACE, DOESN'T THAT MEAN THAT SOMEBODY CAN'T -- THEY CAN ONLY LIVE ABOVE IT. >> THAT IS IN THE RCD DISTRICT, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, BUT IN BG IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL. >> IT'S SIMILAR TO THE TYPE OF SPACE THAT YOU SEE IN EAST SIDE VILLAGE ONE AND TWO THAT ARE EXTERIOR FACING UNITS THAT ARE UTILIZED BY SMALLER OWNER OPERATORS, PHOTOGRAPHERS, TAX AGENTS, CPAs, INSURANCE AGENTS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR MORE EMPTY SPACES IN DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE -- >> IT'S JUST A DIFFERENCE IN DESIGN THE WAY THE UNITS ARE DESIGNED THAT THEY CAN BE EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, IT DOESN'T LIMIT THE USE. >> AS DEMAND STIPULATES. >> OKAY. >> I'M STILL NOT CLEAR, AND SORRY FOR TELLING YOU THIS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE THIS WORKED OUT BEFORE YOU CAME TO COUNCIL. I'M NOT SURE I'M HEARING THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE THIS IS DONE, THEN I'M HEARING, WELL, MAYBE THIS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE THIS IS DONE, MAYBE THIS -- I'M STILL NOT CLEAR. I KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TOO. IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU GOT ALL YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW AT THIS POINT TO HAVE IT HERE TO US, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS BEFORE WE MAKE -- TAKE ACTION ON IT. >> SURE. JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, THE MULTI-FAMILY CANNOT PULL A PERMIT UNTIL THE EARLIER OF BOULDIN ACRES PULLING A PERMIT ON 22,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM OF RETAIL OR JANUARY 1,. HIS COMMENT WAS REALLY THAT THEY WANT TO GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. >> Smith : SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY START -- >> I THEY COULD START ASAP. >> Smith : I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES DEALING WITH THE SAME PROPERTY, BUT IT KIND OF GOT CONFUSING AS WE'RE LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION, SOMETHING LIKE THIS I THINK IS GOING TO BE A CATALYST FOR THAT AREA, JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET KIND OF MUCKED UP AFTER IT GETS STARTED, SO THAT IS THE IMPORTANT THING, WE WANT TO GET IT DONE PROPERLY FOR YOU TWO GUYS TO GET ALONG, KIND OF DEPENDS ON BOTH OF YOU GETTING ALONG TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL FROM WHAT I SEE. >> THERE AGAIN, MANY OF THE HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE OPTY WILL NEED TO OCCUR CON CURRENTLY. >> MY COMMENT WAS BASICALLY LET'S TAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT TAKES US 12 MONTHS TO BUILD, AND THEY CAN START AS SOON AS WE START, AS SOON AS WE PULL OUR PERMIT, THAT SHAVES 12 MONTHS OFF OF THEIR BUILD TIME IN TERMS OF OPERATING. >> Smith : HOW SOON ARE YOU ACTUALLY READY TO PUT A BULL DOZEN AND GET -- >> HOW SOON CAN YOU GET OUR PERMITS. >> Smith : AND THAT IS QUICK IN PLA. >> TRE ISOUR ANSWER. >> WE'RE USED TO BEING HELD UP BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. >> Mayor Muns: WON'T HAPPEN HERE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, GUYS. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. HUH? OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS IT. OH, I'M SORRY, GUYS. WE'RE BACK OPEN. OKAY. I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST A COLLECTIVE GROUP. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. >> DAVID BRYANT. >> Mayor Muns: SORRY, DAVID >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DAVID WITH 1418 COFFEE. I'M HERE JUST TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN DOWNTOWN -- WELL, I GUESS I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT YOU SAW THE SUPPORT YOU GARNERED OF THIS EXCITING PROJECT. OUR FLAG SHIP LOCATION HAS BEEN OPEN FOR TEN YEARS AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AS THE DISTRICT HAS BEGAN TO EXPAND OUR BUSINESS HAS GROWN. YOU MENTIONED EMPTY BUILDIS, W NEE PEOPLE. SO THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE COMING, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP AND WILL COME UP, THE MORE THOSE BUILDINGS AND THOSE STOREFRONTS WILL BEGIN TO FILL UP. THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT, AS WE SEE, ONLY ONE DOWNTOWN, EVERYONE WANTS TO COME DOWNTOWN NO MATTER WHERE IT'S AT, I LIVE IN SALINA, THE DOWNTOWN SALINA SQUARE IS POPULAR AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. PEOPLE WANT A HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE IT, THIS EXPANDS IT. I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT BRINGS DIVERSITY, DIFFERENT THAN RESTAURANTS, BARS AND COFFEE SHOPS, WE DON'T NEED MORE CFEE SHOPS, WE HAVE PLENTY, BUT THIS FAMILY ATMOSPHERE THAT IS GOING TO COME IN ON THE SILL VEER SILVERE CREATE AS WHOLE NEW ATMOSPHERE, I APPRECIATE THE DEDICATION THE CRAVENS HAVE TO DOWNTOWN PLANO, IT'S BEEN PROVEN THROUGH THE YEAR, WE'RE THANKFUL YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT, WE'RE GOING TO GET GOING, THANK YOU. >> JACKIE HERNA. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JACKIE HERNA, I OWN COCOA BEACH ON 15th AND K, AND AS A SUPPORTER OF DOWNTOWN, MY KIDS ARE PERSONALLY IN ORCHESTRA IN THE PLANO ISD DISTRICT, AND I WORKED WITH MICHELLE HAWKINS TO BRING THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DOWNTOWN TO UTILIZE THAT STAGE, MY GOAL, WE NEED MORE FAMILIES, WE NEED MORE FAMILIES DOWNTOWN, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE APARTMENTS, THE ONES THAT ARE BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ALL EXCITED, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO BE FILLED, WE NEED MORE APARTMENTS WITH THAT. I ALSO OWN A BUSINESS IN RICHARDSON, THE BUSINS HAS BEEN THEREOR 23 YEARS, I DO A LOT OF CROSS MARKETING WITH THAT BUSINESS. EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES OVER FROM RICHARDSON, THEY GO, OH, LOOK AT THE HIDDEN GEM IN DOWNTOWN PLANO. I DON'T BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE A HIDDEN GEM ANYMORE, I THINK THE MORE WE GROW IT, THE MORE WE DEVELOP IT, THE MORE FAMILIES WE BRING DOWN, GOING TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE DOWN HERE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> KEN HYATT. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS KEN HYATT, AND I'M THE OWNER OF VILLAGE GRAND LAWN LANDSCAPE THAT IS ON J AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN PLANO. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR PUSHING 25 YEARS NOW. AND I'M ALSO A HOMEOWNER IN PLANO, JUST WEST OF THERE. AND I WANT TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. I APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT THEY DID SEEK OUT THE INFORMATION FRO US. I ATTENDED THAT MEETING AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PLANS. THIS SEEMS TO BE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT DOWNTOWN PLANO IS WANTING TO GO. AND ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS TO BE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE RECENT PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED JUST IN THE LAST MEETING, SO I WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. >> THE LAST SPEAKER IS CORY RHINEKER. >> GOOD EVENG, COUNCIL, CORY RHINEKER, 1814M PLACE, OLD TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE SERVING ON THE TIF BOARDS. I WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY AS A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE THAT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT DEVELOPMENT, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, THE MORE I'VE LEARNED ABOUT IT, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE OWNERSHIP TEAM, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THEIR COMMITMENT TO DOWNTOWN PLANO, THEIR INVESTMENT IN THEREA, AND AS A WALKABLE URBANISM ENTHUSIAST, I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION. SO THANK YOU. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, CORY. ANY OTHER? ALL RIGHT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MAY I SPEAK FIRST? >> SECOND. >> YOU CAN SPEAK. >> Mayor Muns: I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> FIRST, LET ME SAY THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BROWNFIELD REDEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE, I'VE SEEN IT IN DELAWARE, I'VE SEEN IT IN BALTIMORE, EVE SEEN IT IN NORFOLK VIRGINIA, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT WILL ONLY INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND ALSO ENHANCE THE AREA, IT'S BLIGHTED AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, I THINK WITH THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED TODAY WILL CERTAINLY RAISE THAT UP AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE RAISE THE PROPERTY UP AROUND IT. APARTMENTS WILLED A RESIDENTS THAT WE HOPE WILL ENHANCE COCOA BEACH, T FFEE SHOPS, THE HAIR CUTS, ALL THE PLACES AROUND THERE, WE THINK WITH THE FIRST LEVEL FLEX SPACE THAT WILL ONLY BE OCCUPIED BY SNEAKER SALES MEN AND PICKLE BALL PADDLE SALES MEN. THE PICKLE BALL FACILITY ITSELF, YOU CAN ASK COUNCILMAN HOLMER, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THEM IN THE CITY, SO I THINK -- I'M TRYING NOT TO ENCOURAGE HER, BUT SHE'S OVER THERE SHAKING HER HEAD. I THINK THAT IN CASE WILL BE THERE. SO I JUST THINK THIS IS JUST GOING TO INCREAS THE ACTIVITY AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE DOWNTOWN A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ACTIVITY CENTER WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, SO THAT'S MY SAY. >> Ricciardelli: THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST HAVE SOME BRIEF COMMENTS ALSO. I WANT TO SAY FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT GOING FOR IT, OBVIOUSLY THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOWNTOWN ECONOMY IS VERY GOOD. HAVING 44 IN SUPPORT, 4 AGAINST IS OUTSTANDING. I MEAN, THAT IS REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY OUTREACH. MEETING WE HAD.TED THE GAT I HAD A GREAT IMPRESSION OF THE CRAVENS FAMILY, AND Y'ALL'S HISTORY IN PLANO AND CONTRIBUTION TO PLANO. I LOVE THE PUBLIC ART IDEAS AND APPRECIATE THE AESTHETIC THAT FITS WITH DOWNTOWN, I DON'T THINK IT WILL DETRACT FROM DOWNTOWN. IN FACT I WOULD LOVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT A COOL PUBLIC ART PROJECT THEY DID IN MICHIGAN THAT Y'ALL MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, THAT BEING SAID, I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING MIX, YOU KNOW, DOES NOT FIT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IN GENERAL IOULD LOVE TO SEE IN DOWNTOWN A LITTLE MORE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING STOCK, YOU KNOW, MORE TOWN HOMES WOULD I THINK BE A GREAT ADDITION TO DOWNTOWN, WE'RE OVER 90% MULTI-FAMILY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT MORE MULTI-FAMILY DOES NOT FIT WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HOUSING MIX POLICY FOR THAT REASON ALSO. YOU KNOW, THE INTERNAL MIX OF USES UNDER RGM5 UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A MORE ROBUST KIND OF COMMERCIAL USE WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL END UP ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO HOPEFULLY 6% COMMERCIAL DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE FULLY REALIZED WHICH I VERY MUCH HOPE THEY ARE. SO IN THE ABSENCE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I WOULD DEFINITELY VOTE YES ON THIS PROJECT. I TAKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I THINK CONCERN DEPARTURES FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAVE BECOME MORE THE NORM, IN CASES WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING WITH FINDINGS ARE REQUIRED, THE DASHBOARDS ARE NOT MET BY THE PROJECT MORE THE NORM THAN THE EXCEPTION. IT'S A HIGH QUALITY PROJECT. I FEEL TORN, I'M GOING TO DO WHAT I DID ON THE BUDGET AND JUST ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL MOTIVATED TO VOTE AGAINST THIS. I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING, BUT I'M CONCERNED THE FREQUENCY WITH WHICH WE ARE DEPARTING FROM THE PLAN, I CAN'T VOTE YES. MY TWO CENTS, THANK Y'ALL. >> Mayor Muns: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, AND SOME I WOULD SAY PLEASE VOTE. SHELBY? >> Williams: I ECHO EVERYTHING COUNCILMAN RICCIARDELLI SAID, I'M AFRAID I WILL HAVE TO CAST MY VOTE AS NO FOR THIS, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS' TIME. SO WE HAVE 6-1-1. OKAY? THANK YOU. OH FINDINGS YEAH. SORRY. RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES. ♪ >> Mayor Muns: WE'RE ROW CONVENED AT 8:52. >> ITEM NUMBER 2, PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AS REQUESTED IN ZONING CASE 2023-017 TO AM MEND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2015-5-2A. AS HERETOFORE AMENDED GRANTING SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 56 FOR PRIVATE CLUB ON .1-ACRE OF LAND LOCATED AT 444 FEET WEST OF DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND 1398 FEET NORTH OF PARK BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN COUNTY, TEXAS, PRESENTLY ZONED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AND LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTH OR THE DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT, DIRECTING A CHANGE ACCORDINGLY IN THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY, PROVIDING A PENALTY CLAE, A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SAVINGS CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A UNP LICK CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REQUEST FOR PRIVATE CLUB IN THE SHOPS AT WILLOW BEND MALL. YOU'LL SEE LIKE MOST PRIVATE CLUBS, IS IT A VERY SMALL LEASE SPACE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICE AREA IS REALLY ONLY IMPACT ESPECIALLY THE 200-FOOT NOTICE ON IMPACTS TO PROPERTY OWNERS. THE AERIAL SHOWS AGAIN THAT IT IS A LEASE SPACE WITHIN THE MALL, THE AERIAL VIEW GIVING YOU REALLY JUST A SHOT OF THE MALL ITSELF, SO WITH REGARD TO CONFORMANCE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED SUBURBAN ACTIVITY CENTER ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND SO WE DID AN ANALYSIS. YOU'LL SEE THE PRIVATE CLUB DOES MEET THE DESCRIPTION IN PRIORITIES. MOST OF THE AREAS ARE TO THE APPLICABLE TO THIS REQUEST WITH THE JUST USE CHANGE, BUT IT DOES MEET THE REDEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR'S POLICY. WE DID DO A REVIEW OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED PRIVATE CLUBS IN THE AREA, AND FOUND THAT WITHIN ABOUT OUT TO 2,000 FEET OR MORE THESE ARE THE IN YELLOW ARE THE EXISTING -- THE OTHER PRIVATE CLUBS THAT YOU WILL FIND. THE BLUE INDICATES THE PROPOSED AREA. THE YELLOW INDICATES OTHER PRATELUB SUPs THAT ARE EXISTING WITHIN THAT 2000-FOOT BUFFER. SO WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSES ON THIS EITHER ONLINE OR WITHIN -- FROM THE LETTERS THAT WENT OUT. AND WE DID CHECK THE OTHER LARGER SHOPS WILLOW BEND ZONING CASE JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CONFUSION BECAUSE THAT IS AN OVERLAY AND DID NOT FIND ANY INFORMATION OF NOTE THERE. SO IT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE PROPERTY MAINTAINING RECEIPTS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL REQUEST BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING OFFSITE FOOD FROM AN ADJACENT RESTAURANT, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT STIPULATION FOR THE PRIVATE CLUB, BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF 6-0. THERE IS NOT A PRESENTATION ATTACHED, BUT WITH THAT, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU. ANYUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE NEED TO RECESS REAL QUICK. I'M SORRY, GUYS, JUST FIVE MINUTES. SORRY. ♪ >> Mayor Muns: BACK IN SESSION. WE CAN -- WE CAN GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM P&Z. SO I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYPEAKS? >> THE ONLY PERSON WE HAVE IS THE APPLICANT, GEORGE STURGIOS. >> Mayor Muns: GEORGE? >> I THINK WE'LL SAVE YOU SOME TIME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONFINE THE -- >> MAKE A MOTION, WE APPROVE CASE 2023-17. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 2. PLSE VE. >> WE'VE GOT THREE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP. >> Mayor Muns: SHELBY? >> Williams: YES. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. MOTION PASSES 8-0. GUYS CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. >> ITEM NUMBER 3, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL FOR ELECTION TO THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> Mayor Muns: DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINEES? >> IT'S UP TO YOU TO NOMINATE SOMEONE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. >> Mayor Muns: OH. >OH, YOU DID? OKAY, I'M ALL EARS. >> COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMS AND I DISCUSSED THIS, WHICH WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE RICK GRADY. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT, THAT'S GOOD. >> DO YOU WANT TO SECOND THAT SHELBY? >> Williams: SECONDED. >> Mayor Muns: OKAY. THERE WE GO. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO NOMINATE RICK GRADY TO THE COLLIN CENTRAL APPRAAL DIRICTOARD OF DIRECTORS. PLEASE VOTE. I DON'T KNOW, LET'S USE OUR BUTTONS. OKAY. >> Williams: Y'ALL GO AHEAD YES. >> Mayor Muns: THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES 8-0. >> AND THAT WILL COME BACK IN DECEMBER AS AN ACTUAL VOTE ON THE BALLOT. >> ITEM NUMBER 4, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION TO NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL FOR ELECTION TO THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS. >> Mayor Muns: ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THIS ONE? OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO -- WE DON'T HAVE TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND. >> CAN IT BE THE SAME PERSON. >> Mayor Muns: NO, THEY HVE TO LIVE IN DENTON COUNTY. SO WE'LL -- WE'LL PASS AND WE VOTE ON IT IN DECEMBER, TOO? OKAY. WELL, THEN -- >> YEAH, USUALLY YOU CONFER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WHEN IT COMES BACK THROUGH. >> DO WHAT? >> USUALLY WHEN WE GET THE SLATEN YOU CONFER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ET CETERA, CAST OUR LITTLE -- I THINK WE HAVE LIKE 13 VOTES. OUT OF 5,000. >> Mayor Muns: WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5. >> FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 1 OF AN ORDINANCE 2014-6-11 TO EXTEND THE NONEXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE GRANTED TO COSERV GAS LIMITED A. TEXAS LIMITED PARTNER DOING BUSINESS AS COSERV GAS TOURNISH AND SUPP GASL PUBLIC IN THE CITY OF PLANO, COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTIES, FOR THE TRANSPORTING, DELIVERY, SALE AND DISTRIBUTION OF GAS IN AND OUT OF AND THROUGH SAID MUNICIPALITY FOR ALL PURPOSES AND PROVIDING A REPEALER CLAUSE, A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PUBLICATION CLAUSE, AND EFFECTIVE DATE. >> WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ANDREW FORTUNE, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS, THIS IS JUST OUR FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE, WE OF COURSE WILL BRING IT BACK WITHIN 30 DAYS. THIS IS FOR COSERV GAS, IF YOU'RE UNAWARE, ABOUT 3% GIVE OR TAKE OF OUR CITY IS SERVED BY COSERV GAS. THE REST IS ATLAS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM NOW OR BEFORE THE NEXT READING. >> Mayor Muns: ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANDREW? OKAY. WE'LL GET THIS BACK -- >> WITHIN 30 DAYS. >> Mayor Muns: ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE'RE ADJOURNED. COSEE. CL