THIS AUGUST 17TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE BUILDING PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. WE ARE AN ADVISORY BODY TO THE CITY COUNCIL SO ON SOME ITE WEAVEINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY WHILE IN OTHER ITEMS THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER HERE HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO A THREE YEAR TERM BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A MAXIMUM OF TWO TERMS. WE HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS EXCUSE ME SIX COMMISSIONERS PRESENT HERE AT CITY HALL SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AS WE GET STARTED THIS EVENING. I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHI IT STANDS ONE NION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . FOR THE FOLKS AT HOME. GET YOUR POPCORN READY. WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA THIS EVENING OF SEVEN ITEMS. SOME OF OUR ITEMS ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC IS ENCOURAGED TO TESTIFY. YOU CAN DO THAT HERE AT CITY HALL OR YOU CAN DO THAT REMOTELY. AND SOME OF OUR ITEMS WILL BE STUDY ITEMS FOR THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'LL ASK THE PNNING MANAGER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON REMOTE TESTIMONY. CHAIR COOKED IN COMMISSIONERS YOU'RE CORRECT WE CAN TAKE REMOTE TESTIMONY IF YOU'RE WATCHING FROM HOME. WHAT YOU WOULD DO DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN AND THEN ENTER THE ACCESS CODE AND PRESS POUND AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PATCH YOU THROUGH AND YOU CAN TESTIFY LIFE. THANKS MR. MARK . GOOD. WE WILL GET STARTED THIS EVENING WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR NINE MILE BREWING. MRS. O'DAY, YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT? YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. ITEM ONE ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING IS FOR A PATIO EXPANSION FOR NINE MALE BREWING COMPANY. THE ADDRESS IS 955 JAMES AVENUE SOUTH. I BELIEVE SOME OF YOU WERE EVEN ON THE COMMISSION WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE YOU AND 2021 AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT THERE IS A BREWERY AND TAPROOM RESTAURANT APPROVED FOR 207 INDOOR SEATS AND 92 OUTDOOR SEATS AND THE SPACE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE AND THEN THE EXISTING PATIO IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW ON YOUR SCREEN. SO TONIGHT THEY ARE HERE FOR A PROPOSED PATIO EXPANSION. IT WOULD BE LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING SPACE. THERE WOULD BE 32 SEATS SPACE FOR OR BAGS IF YOU'RE A MIDWESTERN IT WILL ALSO BE ENCLOSED BY A TEMPORARY PERIMETER AND THERE WILL BE A DESIGNATED SPACE FOR TWO FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY PLAN TO USE THE SPACE AS IS SO THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS AND THEN JUST A COUPLE ITEMS ON OPERATION THEY ARE PROPOSING TO NOT USE THIS WHEN OTHER TENANTS ARE IN OPERATION SO THEY ARE PLANNING ON USING THIS SPACE ONLY DURING EVENINGS AND HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS WHEN OTHER WAREHOUSE TENANTS ARE NOT IN OPERATION. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TRAFFIC KIND OF IN THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN AS FAR AS PARKING GOES THIS WOULD REQUIRE 407 PARKING SPACES WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE PATIO AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED PAST BUILDING PERMITS FOR CONVERSIONS FROM OFFICE SPACE TO WAREHOUSE WHICH HAS A LOWER PARKING REQUIREMENT SO STAFF ISN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING SUPPLY ON SITE AND THEN THE DRIVE AISLE WIDTH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SHOW A 24 FEET CLEAR BETWEEN THAT FOOD TRUCK SPACE AND THE ADJACENT PARKING SPACE. SO THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT AND JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE 24 FEET FOR THE DRIVE AISLE AND THEN LASTLY THEY ARE REQUIRED TO APPLY FOR AND ADMINISTER DATE OF FINAL SAME BUILDING PLAN APPLICATION WHICH IS JUST DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT. AND LASTLY WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SUBJECT TO AN APPEAL. I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND MR. COUNTRYMAN, THE OPERATOR OF NINE MILE IS ON THE WEBEX FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. DAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO JUST TO WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS BRIEFLY WE ARE GOING TO START WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION. THOSE ARE JUST QUESTIONS ONLY WILL THEN GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO SPEAK IF HE SO CHOOSES WILL THEN OPE THE PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PUBLIC IS ENCOURAGED TO TESTIFY. WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO COMMISSION DISCUSSION. SO WE WILL START WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ALBERT THANK YOU CHAIR. MS. OJ MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO THE ELEVATION OR GRADE CHANGE OF THE AREA WITH THE PROPOSED PATIO. SO IS THERE A GRADE CHANGE OR IS IT RELATIVELY FLAT? CHAIR COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT IT IS RELATIVELY FLAT AHEY'RE T PROPOSING ANY KIND OF GRADE MODIFICATIONS WITH THE PROPOSED PATIO EXPANSION THAT YOU. COMMISSIONER CURRIE THANK YOU CHAIR SO MY QUESTION IS HOW WILL IT BE MONITORED OR HOW DO WE EXPECT TO KNOW THAT THE THE AREA WON'T BE USED WHEN OTHER TENANTS ARE USING THE TRUCK COURT COMMISSIONERHAIR COMMISSIONER CURRIE THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. SO I KNOW THAT THE CAN HAVE SAID IT ON THEIR PROJECT DESCRIPTION ON FILE THAT THEY'RE NOT INTENDING TO OPERATE DURING DURING THE DAY WHEN OTHER TENANTS ARE HEAVILY USING THAT AREA BUT IF THERE ARE ISSUES STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT THROUGH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIVISION AND IT'D BE KIND OF A CONDITION ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ABIDE BY THAT. MR. DAY I HAVE A RELATED QUESTION. CAN YOU BACK TO THE AERIAL IMAGE YOU HAD THERE IN THIS IMAGE IN PARTICULAR THERE ARE TWO TRUCKS IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PATIO HERE. IS THERE CONCERN ABOUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LATE DELIVERY. THE PERSON IS GOING TO MAKE THAT DELIVERY AND THERE'S ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THERE ARE COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR COOKED IN THERE IS NOT CONCERNED. THIS IS AN OLDER AERIAL AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THAT 24 FEET CLEAR SO THERE IS ADEQUATE SPACE FOR VEHICLES WHO ARE PARKED THERE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF TURNING MOVEMENTS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING THIS IS BOB. THAT FIRST DAY THAT YOU SEE THE TRUCK IS ACTUALLY OUR BAY AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY DELIVERIES ON THE WEEKEND AND OFF HOURS AND TYPICALLY WE DO NOT SEE A TRUCK TRAFFIC REALLY AT ALL ON WEEKENDS OR AFTER. THANK YOU, MR. COUNTRYMAN. AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO WE'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND HERE. I WANT TO JUST FINISH UP WITH QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN. THKS,HAIR. ON QUESTION I HAD IS REALLY AROUND STORAGE OF THIS TEMPORARY FREE PATIO SPACE. SO WE'RE THINKING OF THE TEMPORARY PERIMETER AS THE BAGS, THE THE TABLES AND CHAIRS THAT ARE PROPOSED. IS THERE ANY DETAIL IN THE PLAN ON WHERE THOSE WOULD BE STORED WHEN THE EXPANSION OR WHEN THAT PATIO IS NOT BEING USED OR IN THE WINTER SEASONS? SURE. CHAIR COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN SO IF YOU SEE MYURSO THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THEY'RE STORING WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THE PATIO IS BEING USED THEY'RE STORING THE MATERIALS HERE TO THE LEFT OF THIS BLACK AREA IS KIND OF A CONCRETE BARRIER THAT'S THERE. SO THEY'RE PLANNING ON STORING THOSE ITEMS HERE AS FAR AS DURING WINTER STORAGE. I'D LIKE THE APPLICANT TO KIND OF ADDRESS WHERE THEY PLAN ON STORING THESE ITEMS. WE'LL GET TO THAT IN JUST 1/2. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SENIOR AND MR. COUNTRAN,LEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH, THAT AREA TO THE LEFT ON THE DIAGRAM BY THAT BLACK BARRIER IS ACTUALLY WHERE WE STORED ALL OF OUR PATIO FURNITURE. IT'S QUITE LARGE. THERE'S NO DOORWAY OR EXIT EXIT FROM THERE. IT'S BASICALLY UP TO WINDOWS AND IT'S PLACE THAT WE STORAGE AND WE WOULD JUST PUT THE BARRIERS THERE. IT'S GOT AMPLE TO DO IT AND THEN IT'S OUT OF THE WAY. I MEAN NO ONE GOES INTO THAT AREA WITH CONCRETE BARRIERS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRUCKS HAVE TO GO AROUND THA AREA BASICALLY. THANK YOU. YEP. MR. COUNTRYMAN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD KNOW OR YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO REGARDING YOUR APPLICATION? NO. I MEAN MOSTLY I ENVISION USING THIS FOR THINGS LIKE BAG TOURNAMENTS AND NOT PUTTING THE FULL 32 SEATS OUT THERE. I MEAN WE'VE SAID THAT WE APPLIED FOR IT. WE COULD IF WE WANTED TO HAVE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SITTING OUT AND WATCHING BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY USED AS A GAME AREA AND AGAIN ONLY IN THAT WE CAN SPOILHE HOLIDAYS OFF HOURS. WE REALLY DON'T NEED IT FOR THE OTHER TIME SO WE WILL SELF-MONITOR THAT IT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS FEEL A TREE. THANK YOU, MR. COUNTRYMAN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I I'M SEEING NONE. AND WE'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. YOU CAN TESTIFY ONLINE AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE. YOU CAN ALSO TESTIFY HERE AT CITY HALL. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS NOW WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND PROVIDE TESTONY? SEEING NONE. MR. MARKER GARY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE? JERRY COOKED IN NOBODY ONLINE . VERY WELL THEN I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOST CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I. I OPPOSED WE WILL MOVE THEN TO DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER ALBERT THANK YOU CHAIR PREYELF-EXPLANATOR HERE I THINK SEEMS LIKE I AN EXPANSION OF THE PATIO IS BEING THAT THE BUSINESS IS DOING WELL WHICH WE LOVE TO SEE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PARTICULARLY THE FIRST TAPROOM AND BREWHOUSE SO LOVE TO SEE THAT AND ADDITIONALLY SOME MORE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA AND THE WEEKENDS WOULD BE A GOOD THING. I KNOW A FAIRLY QUIET AREA GIVEN THAT A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC HAS TO DO WITH OFFICE WAREHOUSE THAT KIND OF THING. SO GOOD TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IN THE AREA AND SOME OFF HOURS SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT. COMMISSIONER CURRY I GUESS I STILL AM A LITTLE CONCERNED JUST ABOUT THE NOT YOU KNOW THE CONCEPT OF JUST NOT USING IT WHEN THERE'S OTHER YOU KNOW, TENANTS AROUND USING THE TRUCK COURT YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THEN THAT THE BUILDING HAS TO MONITOR OR WHAT TENANTS GO IN THE BUILDING AND DOES THAT BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THE CITY AND YOU KNOW, IS IT ONE TRUCK IN THE TRUCK COURT THAT MAKES IT ACTIVE OR IS IT FIVE TRUCKS IN THE TRUCK COURT THAT MAKE IT ACTIVE LIKE I DON'T KNOW. SO JUST SOMETHING I'M THINKING ABOUT STILL FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN THANKS CHAIR. YOU KNOW, AS MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW, I AM A HUGE SUPPORTER OF THIS BREWERY D JUST THE BREWEES IN THE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND I ECHO COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT SAYS THIS IS GREAT TO SEE THAT THIS BUSINESS IS DOING WELL AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT WITH THIS APPLICATION IS WHEN WE ORIGINALLY APPROVED THIS LOCATION I BELIEVE THE PATIO ON THE RIGHT IS IT THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUILDING? SO YEAH RIGHT THERE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF THE PATIO AS WELL AS THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS IN THE SIDE AND YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THAT ORIGINAL APPROVAL AND WHERE THIS PATIO WAS PROPOSED NOW I ACTUALLY THINK THE THE ONE IN FRONT OF US TODAY IS MUCH BETTER USE OF THE SPACE. THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW IS UNDERUTILIZED. I THINK HAVING IT BE TEMPORARY AND FXIBL WILL HELP WITH THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT COMMISSIONER CURRIE IS LOOKING AT. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT SHAPES OUT AS IT'S USED MORE AND MORE BUT OVERALL I THINK IT'S A IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE. I LIKE HOW IT IS FLEXIBLE AND CAN GROW WITH THE BUSINESS AND ITS USE UTILIZING OTHER UNDERUTILIZED SPACE AS IT IS. SO OVERALL I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS DAY. FORGIVE ME IF YOU MENTIONED THIS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IS THERE LIGHTING OR REFLECTIVITY INCLUDED WITH THIS PATIO EXPANSION CHAIR YEAH THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME I THINK JUST SOME ARCHITECTURAL BALLPARKS ON THE BEHIND THE BUILDING ON THIS WALL UP HERE. SO IT DOES HAVE TO MEET OUR EXTERIOR LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS . THANK YOU. FROM MY STANDPOINT AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION I'LL ECHO THAT IT IS NICE TO SEE A BUSINESS DOING WELL AND IF ANYONE'S BEEN OVER THERE IT'S CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE DOING WELL AND I'M HAPPY THAT THE TAPROOMS ARE WORKING OUT. IT APPEARS IN THIS APPLICATION REGARDLESS OF HOW WELL THE TAPROOM IS DOING IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME IT'S AN EXPANSION OF A BUSINESS AND THEY'RE TAKING PRECAUTIONS AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS TO MAKE THIS SAFE AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OF THIS PATIO EXPANSION FURTHER DISCUSSION IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION. COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. PLEASE PROCEED IN CASE L2 023-104 HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO MAKE REQUIRED FINDINGS AND MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXPANSION OF AN OUTDOOR PATIO AND AN EXISTING AT 9555 JAMES AVENUE SOUTH SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AND I'M OWL BREWING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN OUTDOOR PATIO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN THINGS TO DO JUST QUESTION FOR STAFF DO WE NEED TO FIX THE SPELLING ERROR IN SOUTH OR CAN WE PROCEED PROCEED YOU CAN PROCEED THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR THAT ATTENTION TO DETAIL COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL SAY I, I OPPOSED THIS MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS APPLICATION WILL PROCEED TO EXCUSE ME THIS IS A FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY GIVEN TO US AND THEREFORE IT'S A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS IF AN APPEAL IS RECEIVED BY CITY COUNCIL AT FIVE 430 ON AUGUST 22ND THIS WOULD GO BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IF THERE'S NO APPEALS. THIS IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE CITY OF LEWISTON AS THE APPLICANTS FOR LYNDALE REZONINGS FROM B2 TO B FOR MR. RAMBLER OLSON YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT FOR US ? MM HMM . OKAY . WELL , SORRY MY COMPUTER DECIDED TO SHUT DOWN ON ME. WE ARE A PATIENT BUNCH AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOW READY IS WORKING OUT THE COBWEBS SO THAT'S YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. THE ITEM TO BEFORE YOU IS LYNDALE BEFORE REZONINGS. UM, IF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A STUDY SESSION ON JUNE 22ND WHERE WE DISCUSSED A GROUP OF REZONINGS AT THE INTERSECTION AT THE LINDLEY INTERSECTIONS WITH 86TH AND 98TH STREET ABOUT 28 PARCELS IN ALL THIS WAS A RECOMMENDED ACTION IN THE LYNDALE AVENUE SUBURBAN RETROFIT PLAN AND SO THIS IS JUST CARRYING OUT THAT REMMEND ACTION. THAT PLAN WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 2021. THESE ARE THE PARCELS UNDER CONSIDERATION ABOUT 11 OR I'M SORRY AT ABOUT 11 AROUND THE 86TH STREET INTERSECTION AND 17 AROUND THE 98TH STREET INTERSECTION. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO RECAP WHEN THIS PROCESS BEGAN IT STARTED IN EARLY MAY. AT THAT TIME STAFF HAD SENT OUT MAILERS TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF THOSE THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING TO INFORM THEM OF THE KICK OFF OF THIS PROCESS AND THEN JUST INFORMING THEM LOOSELY ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD OCCUR OVER THE MONTH OF MAY. ON MAY 11 STAFF VISITED EACH PROPERTY WE GAVE THEM WITHIN THOSE MAILERS AND IN EARLY MAY AND WE TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD BE VISITING THE PROPERTIES IN CASE THEY HAD ANY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO WE VISITED EACH PROPERTY ON MAY 23RD WE HELD A VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY AT THE 24TH WE DID AN IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE AND THOSE OPEN HOUSES WEREN'T VERY WELL ATTENDED BUT WE TRIED WE WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL INQUIRIES VIA EMAIL AND OVER THE PHONE. I MEAN THEY'VE JUST BEEN INQUIRIES ABOUT THE PROCESS NO REAL OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THE FOR THE REZONING JUST INCREASED ESSENTIALLY. AND AS I SAID THIS IS AN ACTION THAT COMESUT OF THE RETROFIT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN APRIL OF 2021. IT JUST IT FULFILLS THE VISION BY ADDING MORE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO CREATE A MORE WALKABLE CHARACTER ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE THAT'S THE VISION THAT WAS EMBEDDED IN THE RETROFIT PLAN . THERE'S SOME SOME OTHER ACTIONS OR SOME PLANNING ACTIONS THAT TOOK PLACE THAT ALSO SUPPORT THIS REZONING. THERE WAS THE 98TH STREET STATION AREA PLANHEREHERE WAS A GROUP OF PARCELS EVERY ZONE FROM B-2 TO BEFORE AND THE COMP PLAN ALSO SUPPORTS THIS ACTION. AS YOU KNOW IT ADOPTED BY EXTENSION THE SUBURBAN AREA SUBURBAN RETROFIT PLAN. THERE'S THE GUIDED LAND USE OF THE PARCEL IS BEING CONSIDERED THERE'S THERE'S A MIX BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY GENERAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THERE'S ONE PARCEL THAT IS PUBLIC THAT'S GUIDED PUBLIC AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON THE RIGHT HAND IMAGE IN THE VERY LEFT LOWER LEFT CORNER THAT'S CURRENTLY A STATION AREA OR SORRY A TRANSIT STATION AND THAT COULD BE RECONSIDERED FOR RE GUIDING IF IT EVER WANTS IT'S RE ZONED THERE'S BEEN SOME INTEREST ON THE PART OF METRO TRANSIT TO SEEK A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TRANSIT STATION OCCUPYING THAT GROUND FLOOR AND THEN HAVING VERTICAL MIXED USE ABOVE RESIDENTIAL PRIMARILY. SO IF THIS REZONING WERE TO BE APPROVED THE CITY SHOULD MAYBE CONSIDER AND ONCE THERE ARE FIRM PLANS ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE FOR REDEVELOPING THAT PARCEL THEY MAY WANT SEEING MAYBE INTERESTED IN RE GUIDING IT TO A MORE APPROPRIATE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING RIGHT NOW IT IT'S OBVIOUSLY ALL B TWO SINCE WE'RE GOING FROM B TO BEFORE BUT NONETHELESS IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS REZONING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF LYNDALE AVENUE AROUND 86TH YOU MAY RECALL THAT THOSE PARCELS WERE RECENTLY REOPENED TO TRANSIT TRAITIOL INDUSTRIAL FROM I3 THAT WAS ALSO A ACTION THAT WAS LAID OUT IN THE RETROFIT PLAN AGAIN INTRODUCING A POSSIBILITY OF RESIDENTIAL TO THOSE PARCELS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY. SO AGAIN THIS IS KIND OF FOLLOWING IN THAT VEIN. YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT ZONING FOR B2 THAT'S THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT ONE ALLOWS CERTAIN USES THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE B ZONING. IT'S THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR PAWNSHOPS AND MORE AUTO ORIENTED USES CAR WASHES GAS STATIONS THAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THE B4 DISTRICT AND AS YOU'L SEE HERE THERE'S A VARIETY OF GOALS THAT COME WITH THE B4 DISTRICT AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN CONCERT WITH THE GOALS FROM THE RETROFIT PLAN. SO IT'S IT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS SENSE AS IT FULFILL HELPS FILL THE VISION OF THAT RETROFIT PLAN IN COMPARING THE STANDARDS BETWEEN B2 AND BEFORE I JUST HIGHLIGHTED A FEW BUT HERE'S A GOOD SUMMARY OF THOSE STANDARDS AND THOSE THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED NOTE THE THE HIGHER F AIR OR FLOOR AREA RATIO IF THERE IS RESIDENTIAL INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT IT GUIDES PARKING TO THE SIDE OR THE REAR OF THE BUILDING THEREFORE FREEING UP THAT SPACE IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET TO ENCOURAGE A MORE WALKABLE STREETSCAPE WE KNOW REQUIREMENTS AGAIN JUST IN LINE WITH THAT THAT GOAL OF WALKABILITY AND APPEALING TO THE PEDESTRIAN AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A MAXIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR BUILDINGS IN THE B4 DISTRICT. SO AGAIN BRINGING BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE SIDEWALK A CONCERN OR I'M SORRY A CONSIDERATION FOR ANY REZONING IS THE CONFORMITY STATUS AND THE CONFORMITY OF OF WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTY ONCE IT GOES FROM ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO ANOTHER AS THE FIRST BULLET POINT NOTES SOME LOTS MIGHT BECOME NON CONFORMING DUE TO USE SAY CHARACTERISTICS OR BUILDING DESIGN. THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS THAT HAVE USES THAT WOULD BE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING UNDER A B FOR DESIGNATION SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND YOU MIGHT KNOW HOW A NON-CONFORMITY IS CREATED OR JUST THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SUMMARY OF IT BUT THEREOULD BE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IN THEIR USE UNTIL REDEVELOP MENT OR AN EXPANSION OF THAT OF WHERE THE EXPANSION OF THE USE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. BUT SO IF IT'S CONSIDERED FOR REDEVELOPMENT THEN WE WOULD EXPECT THAT PROPERTY TO BE BOUGHT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEW ZONING DESIGNATION. SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE HERE'S A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE USE AND FOR RESTATE AS WE'RE UNABLE TO FOR YOU KNOW WE WERE UNABLE T DETERNE YOU KNOW THE SITE CHARACTERISTICS THAT MIGHT MAKE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT MAKE A AN ASPECT OF A OF A PROPERTY NON CONFORMING BUT AS FAR AS USE CONFORMITY GOES MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES ARE WOULD BE CONFORMING UNDER A B FOR DISTRICT HOWEVER THERE ARE FIVE PROPERTIES SPECIFICALLY THAT HAVE USES THAT WOULD NOT BE COMPLIANT WITH THE B4 DISTRICT SO AGAIN SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND SO YOUR HOPEFULLY YOU WILL RECALL THAT AGAIN THAT'S A STUDY SESSION THAT WAS IN LATE JUNE AND THEN WE HAD A C SESSION WITH COUNCIL IN EARLY JULY WHERE A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE REZONING PROCESS WAS ALSO ADOPTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SOME OF THE TAKE TAKEAWAYS THAT STAFF GOT IS THAT THERE WAS GENERAL SUPPORT, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ABOUT NON-CONFORMITY AND WE MIGHT I MIGHT EXPECT THOSE AGAIN TONIGHT. WE HAVE HAD A LOW I MEAN WE'VE WE'VE HAD INQUIRIES FROM PROPERTY OWNERS BUT WE HAVEN'T AGAIN HAD ANY SENSE OF SUPPORT OR BEING AGAINST THE PROPOSAL SO THAT TALKS OR THAT TOUCHES UPON THE RESPONSE FROM OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES AND THERE WAS ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF LYNDALE AND AS WE MENTIONED DURING THAT MEETING WE WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP LOOKING AT LDALE TO SEE WHAT OUR NEXT MOVES ARE AND TO ALSO JUST GAUGE THE THE PROGRESS OF FULFILLING THE SUBURBAN THE RETROFIT PLAN. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO PLANS FOR RECONSTRUCT ING OR RE STRIPING LYNDALE AS AS OF THIS MOMENT AND ALSO WE OH OH YEAH. SO IN THAT LINE THERE WAS SOME INTEREST IN A CORRIDOR STUDY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT BUT OF COURSE THAT'S DEPENDENT ON THE WORKPLAN THAT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY. SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF YOU IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO THAT ROUTE BUT OTHERWISE I AVAILABLE TO TAKE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. WILSON. I'LL REMIND THE COMMISSION THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. ALBERT THANK YOU CHAIR. MY QUESTION IS IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THE NON-CONFORMITY OR THE CONFORMITY IS YES, THERE YOU GO. SO IN THIS BULLET POINT YOU SAY MAY CONTINUED THROUGH REPAIR REPLACEMENT OR RESTORATION MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENT NOT EXPANSION. CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF AN IMPROVE MENT THAT WOULD NOT BE AN EXPANSION TO CHAIR COMMISSIONER ALBERT IMPROVEMENT MIGHT BE SOMETHING EXTERIOR AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A PHYSICAL EXPANSION THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE EXPANSION THE USE. SO PERHAPS REPLACING WINDOWS OR SE ST OF IMPREMEN TO THE EXTERIOR OR SO THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO TO THE THE BUILDING ITSELF IF THERE WERE SITE IMPROVEMENTS LANDSCAPING, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WOULD STILL KEEP IT WITHIN ITS LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY STATUS OR IT WOULD STILL MAINTAIN ITS LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY IMPROVEMENT. AND WOULD THAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHERE THE BUILDING IS SITTING ON THE PROPERTY? THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EXPAND AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WOULD BE THE EXPANSION VERSUS IMPROVEMENT CHAIR COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THAT THAT'S CORRECT. I BELIEVE I THINK THIS DIFFERS FROM CITY TO CITY SO I HOPE I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. GLENN GLENN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CORRECT ME BUT I BELIEVE IF THEY MAINTAIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT BUT IF THE DIMENSIONS YOU KNOW, THE X AND Y DIMENSIONS CHANGE, I BELIEVE THAT'S APPROPRIATE. BUT AS LONG AS THE THE AREA OF THE FOOTPRINT DOESN'T EXPAND, THEN THEY'RE STI MAINTAINING THEIR LEGAL NONCONFORMING STATUS BECAUSE WE WE INTERPRET THE EXPANSION OF THE FOOTPRINT AS AN EXPANSION OF THE USE. SO THANK YOU. MR.. ALSO I HAVE A QUESTION I BELIEVE WERE ONLY REZONING HERE AND NO REGARDING CHAIR YES. IS THAT JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WE HAD GUIDANCE THAT IT WAS ALREADY APPROPRIATE OR WAS THERE CONSIDERED TO RESIDE ANYTHING A CHAIR THAT IS CORRECT. THE THE GUIDANCE IS IS AGREES WITH THE REZONING THE NEW THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD BE FOR WHERE THAT MIGHT AGAIN WHERE THAT MIGHT RUN INTO ISSUES I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WAS THAT PARCEL THAT'S GUIDED PUBLIC AND THE THE THE HOPE OF OR I'M SORRY THAT I HOPE I SHOULD SAY THE THE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF BANDIED ABOUT BY METRO TRANSIT FOR THAT PROPERTY WAS WAS A MIXED MIXED USE IN NATURE WHICH DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF THE LANDSCAPE AS A PUBLIC. SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OF CONCERN BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FIRM PLANS FOR REDEVELOPING THAT SITE SO OTHERWISE ALL THE OTHER YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST GO BACK TO THEM IN QUESTION SO YEAH SO THE THE THE FIRST TWO LAND USE CATEGORIES OF GENERAL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WOULD WORK WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING A B FOR SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NEED TO TO REQUEST OR TO TO SEEK A GUIDANCE FOR THOSE PERSONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN THANKS, CHAIR. MR. WILSON, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THERE WAS A MAP ONE OF THE FIRST MAPS YOU SHOWED MAYBE IT WAS THE NEXT ONE, THE ONE YOU JUST PASSED. OH THAT OH THAT ONE. OKAY SO QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ON THIS MAP AND MAYBE IT'S OUT OF DATE BUT I'M LOOKING AT THAT SOUTH WEST PARCEL THAT IS NOT IN THAT DARK PURPLE HIGHLIGHT. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED AS A FOR FUTURE ZONE TO BE FOR A CHURCH ? COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN THIS IS AN IMAGE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE 98 AREA AREA PLAN. YEAH, SO A 98TH STREET AREA PLAN SO THAT WHAT'S IN WHAT'S IN PURPLE WAS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ZONED AS AS A PART OF THAT PROCESS AND THEN WHAT'S WHAT HAS THAT DIAGONAL HATCHING IS OR PARCELS THAT WERE STILL REMAINING TO BE OR THAT STILL REMAINED BEFORE OR B B2 SORRY B2 I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHY THAT HATCHING ISN'T OVER THOSE PARCELS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER INTERSECTION SOUTHWEST OF THAT INTERSECTION OF 98TH AND BELINDA I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THERE. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS IN VERSUS FUTURE REZONE TO BE FOR UNDER THE B IF SEE YOUR SCROLL YOUR YOUR CURSOR DOWN THERE'S THIS LITTLE PARCEL AND I THINK IT'S B FOR TODAY I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM TO THE RIGHT THAT ONE RIGHT THERE OH THAT'S ZONED BEFORE CORRECT TODAY I KNOW IT'S OUT OF SCOPE FOR THIS BUT IT JUST SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT THERE WAS A SMALL PARCEL THERE THAT WAS NO INCLUD IN THE CHURCH. COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THAT PARCEL I GUESS I A THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THAT REPORT SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ZONING IS OF THAT. COULD YOU SCROLL THROUGH FOR ME , SCROLL TO THE NEXT GRAPHIC? I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER IT. YEAH. OH AND HERE IT IS. OH OH THREE FR. AY I SEE MR. MERCURY IS FEVERISHLY WORKING THE GAS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, MR. MERKLE? PERFECT. I THINK THIS ANSWERED MY QUESTION HERE. YEAH. OH YEAH. CHAIR COOKED AND COMMISSIONER IT IS ON BEFORE CONFIRMED ON ANOTHER MAP AS WELL THANK YOU APOLOGIES FOR THE IT IS KIND OF OUTDATED GRAPHIC PERHAPS FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER CURRY. THANK YOU. SURE. AND QUICK QUESTION ON NONCONFORMING USES. SO LIKE I LOOK AT BASICALLY THE AUTO USES SPEEDWAY VALVOLINE, FAIRWAY FORD THOSE ARE NONCONFORMING GOING FORWARD BUT THEN I LOOK AT THE PARK AND RIDE LOT WHICH PRESUMABLY IS ALSO AN AUTO BUT THAT IS CONFORMING. WHY ARE THOSE DIFFERENT? YEAH. CHAIR COMMISSIONER CURRY SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC AND THOSE WOULD BE STILL ALLOWED UNDER THE PROPOSED ZONING OF BEFORE SINCE THEY ARE FULFILLING AND THAT'S HELPFUL MORE HELPFUL TO THINK OF THEM AS A AS A JUST A TRANSIT STATION AND THAT THE THE FOCUS OF THOSE LOTS IS NOT THE THE PARKING NECESSARILY ALTHOUGH PEOPLE PARK THEIR TO USE TRANSIT BUT THEY'RE THERE TO JUST FULFILL FACILITATE THE THE THE ROUTES THAT COME THROUGH VIA TRANSIT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE HOPEFULLY THAT AWERS YOUR QUESTION. WE THINK OF THOSE MORE AS A PUBLIC USE AND NOT AS A PUBLIC OR NOT AS A PARKING OR STORAGE VEHICLES. ANY ADDITIONAL QUEIONS FOR STEPH FISHER CURRY SORRY. SO I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION JUST IN GENERAL. SO I MEAN I'M NEW TO THE PROCESS HERE AND I KNOW A LOT OF THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN HAS WORKED THROUGH THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN. YOU KNOW I DROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY I DON'T THINK REALLY ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS SINCE THE PLAN WAS INTO PLACE AND I DON'T I GUESS I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE DATE THAT THE THAT THE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY WAS RE ZONED. BUT I'M CURIOUS YOU KNOW IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING WAS THERE FIRST OF ALL WAS THERE AN EXPECTATION AS WHEN WE MIGHT START TO SEE REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA BASED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IS THIS TWO YEAR TIME WINDOW WITHIN THAT? ARE WE ALONG WITH EVERY MOVE ALONG WITH OUR INITIAL EXPECTATIONS OR DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY OKAY, THIS HASN'T WORKED OUT AS WE EXPECTED. WE NEED TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST CURIOUS I CAN TAKE THAT MR. RAINIER ALSO IF YOU LIKE. SO THIS IS A LONG TERM PLAN. LYNDALE IS QUITE LONG A COUPLE OF MILES BETWEEN 98TH STREET AND 494 I BELIEVE THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT CALLS IT SOMETHING LIKE A 20 TO 25 YEAR PLAN AND SO IT'S A SLOW BURN RECOGNIZING THAT THE MARKET IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ABSORB THAT MUCH REDEVELOPMENT IN A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME. AND SO I THINK OF THESE AS MORE OF A LONG GAME THAN A QUICK PLAY AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME REDEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY AND MAYBE I'LL ASK MR. MURGATROYD OR MR. WILN TO DISCUSS A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE ALSO SOME IN THE WORKS. YEAH JARED COOKED IN COMMISSIONER CURRY IN TERMS OF PLAN ADOPTION THAT WAS APRIL OF 2021. SO A LITTLE BIT OVER TWO YEARS AGO IN THAT TIME WE HAVE HAD TWO MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS ONE AT 94TH AND LYNDALE THE LYNDALE FLATS APARTMENTS AND THEN ONE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AT 95TH STREET JUST ONE PART OF LYNDALE AND THAT'S THE HEIGHTS SENIOR APARTMENTS . SO YOU KNOW, TWO LARGE DEVELOPMENTS IN TWO YEARS THAT'S PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS AND A LOT UNDER DISCUSSION. SO WE THINK THAT PROGRESS WILL CONTINUE GOING FORWARD AS WELL . SOUNDS GOOD. I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE MR. MARK GUARD ALONG THOSE LINES WE TAKEN SOME OF LYNDE AND MOVED IT TO THE TY DISTRICT AND THIS PROPOSAL HERE IS TO MOVE FROM B TWO TO BE FOUR. IS THIS ALL OF THE REZONINGS WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO ON LYNDALE OR IS THE THERE A POTENTIAL OR A THOUGHT FOR MORE? YES JARED. AND IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL REZONINGS, THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN DOES NOT HIGHLIGHT ANY ADDITIONAL. HOWEVER WE HAVE WITH THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS I DISCUSSED WE'VE SEEN KIND OF A CHANGE IN CHARACTER IN THAT 94TH AND LYNDALE KNOWN WITH BOTH LAWNDALE FLATS AND ROXBOROUGH HEIGHTS. SO COMBINING THOSE TWO NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO FAIRLY LARGE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT AREA WHERE REDEVELOPMENT IS BEING ACTIVELY DISCUSSED. SO I GUESS GIVEN THAT GIVEN THE CHANGE IN CHARACTER STAFF IS OF THE PERSPECTIVE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK BEYOND WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL RETROFIT PLAN AND POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OF AT LEAST EXPLORE WHETHER OR NOT TO FURTHER EVALUATE REZONING IN THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY AT 90TH AND LYNDALE IN TERMS OF POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE TWO SITES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED, WE'VE HEARD FROM BOTH DEVELOPERS INTERESTED IN MORE OF THE B TWO STYLE DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER DEVELOPERS INTERESTED MORE OF THE B FOUR STYLE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO FURTHER EXPLORE THAT AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE THE COMMISSION'S GUIDANCE ON THAT UNDERSTANDING. IT'S NOT IN THE LYNDALE RETROFIT SO I THINK YOU MENTIONED 94TH AND LINDA 94TH IN LYNDALE. YES. THANK YOU. MR. BERGER. I'D LIKE TO COME BACK TO THAT WHEN WE GO TO DISCUSSION BUT WE'LL STICK WITH QUESTIONS FOR NOW. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DON'T SEE ANY. THE APPLICANT HERE IS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SO WE WON'T HAVE AN APPLICANT APPLICANT SPEAKING. SO WITH THAT I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN FOLKS HERE AT CITY HALL ARE WELCOME TO TESTIFY. WE ALSO HAVE OPTIONS FOR REMOTE TESTIMONY SO IF ANYONE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. WE HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET THERE ON THE DAIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND PLEASE PLEASE STEP FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE TO TESTIFY YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THE SIGN IN SHEET AFTER YOU SPEAK IF YOU IF YOU CHOOSE THANK YOU AND STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. YEP. MY NAME IS RHETT SWARTZBERG. I'M COUNSEL FOR UPON AMERICA TENANT AT 8650 LYNDALE AVENUE SOUTH AS WELL AS THE LANDOWNER WHICH IS A RELATED BUSINESS AFFILIATE OF AMERICA. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT THE BOARD TABLE ITS FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL UNTIL NEXT MONTH'S MEETING AND FOR THE REASON THAT PAN AMERICA LEARNED OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING ONLY TEN DAYS AGO WHEN IT RECEIVED NOTICE OF TONIGHT'S HEARING IN THE MAIL. ADDITIONALLY, WE WENT ON ON TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S WEBSITE TO LOCATE THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS AND THE BACKGROUND PACKET FOR TONIGHT'S HEARING AND THERE WERE ANY DOCUMENTS UPLOADED YET AND I CONTACTED MR. AMBLER OLSON AND WE DID RECEIVE THOSE MATERIALS ON FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND HAVE REVIEWED THOSE BUT WE THINK THERE ARE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THE PROPOSED REZONING SPECIFICALLY AS IT CONCERNS PAN AMERICAN PONDS STORE IS BEING MOVED FROM A CONDITIONAL USE TO A PROHIBITED USE UNDER THE PROPOSED REZONING IN THE B4 DISTRICT. AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW WE SAW IN THE IN THE STAFF PLAN OR THE STAFF REPORT THAT MR. OLSON PRESENTED THAT WAS THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES OR OUTREACH ATTEMPTS IN THE COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, AMERICA DID NOT RECEIVE ANY OPPORTUNITY OR DID NOT ENGAGE IN ANY DIALOG WITH CITY STAFF AND OTHER THAN A BROCHURE BEING DROPPED OFF AT THE STORE DID NOT HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER DIALOG WITH WITH THE CITY SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE A ONE MONTH PERIOD IN WHICH TO YOU KNOW, REVIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, REVIEW THE THE ACTION REPORT AND THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND REVIEW THESE ANY CONSEQUENCE LOSSES THAT WOULD RESULT SPECIFICALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS REZONING AND POND STORAGE BEING A PROHIBITED USE AS MR. OLSON TALKED ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU HAVE A NONCONFORMING USE AND YOU KNOW A PART FROM DESTRUCTION OF THE OF THE PROPERTY, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO REDEVELOP OR REVITALIZE THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RETROFIT PLAN OR WITH, YOU KNOW, THE GOALS OF THIS THE B4 DISTRICT WHICH IS TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL FOOT TRAFFIC FOR PEDESTRIANS AND YOU KNOW ACCOMMODATE ACCESSORY USES FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW TO THE EXTENT THAT UPON STORE WOULD BE A PROHIBITED USE PLAN AMERICA WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REDEVELOP ITS PROPERTY, REVITALIZE ITS PROPERTY IN ORDER TO YOU KNOW, ACCOMMODATE THESE THESE GOALS OF THE RETROFIT PLAN IN THE B4 DISTRICT A WE THINK THAT IT WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ON ON AMERICA AND REQUEST THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME IN WHICH TO INITIATE AND CONTINUE DIALOG WITH THE BOARD, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND WITH CITY STAFF AND AFFECTED BUSINESS OWNERS FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW THE GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT STATES GAS STATIONS AS AS ONE OF THE USES BUT THE B4 DISTRICT PROHIBITS GAS STATION SO I THINK AS MR. WILSON SAID YOU KNOW THE OUTREACH WASN'T NECESSARILY SUCCESSFUL IN THAT THERE WASN'T MUCH DIALOG AND I THINK OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS WOULD ALSO YOU KNOW WANT TO WEIGH IN IF IF THEY UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE THE PROPOSED REZONING. THANK YOU, MR. WITTENBERG. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS AND AT HOME WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IS WE'LL TAKE ALL OF OUR TESTIMONY, WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE TESTIMONY. AND SO WE'RE NOT IGNORING IT. WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THE TESTIMONY ALL AT ONCE. IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY, PLEASE GO AHEAD IN STEP FOR NOT SEEING ANYONE STEP FORWARD HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. MR. PLANNING MANAGER, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WOULD WISH TO SPEAK TO IN EVERYBODY ONLINE AND CITY STAFF SO NO THANK YOU, MR. BERGER ONE LAST CALL FOR FOLKS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY SEEING NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CAUSE A PUBLIC HEARING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER CURRIE I MEAN I GUESS BASED ON WHAT I JUST HEARD ABOUT THE AT LEAST THE TWO YEAR HISTORY OF REDEVELOPMENT SO FAR IT SEEMS LE EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING WELL SO OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO SEE BUSINESSES GET DISPLACED SO YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'M NEW TO THE PROCESS AND IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS ARE GOING WELL. BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN A RESULT OF THINGS CHANGE AND YOU'RE PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO YOU KNOW I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME WAYS COMMISSIONER GLASSMAN THANK YOU CHAIR YOU KNOW I THINK IS I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR FOUR, FIVE YEARS NOW AND I THINK IT'S HARD FOR US ON THE COMMISSION WE SEE HOW THIS PROCESS HAS GONE. WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE LANDFILL RETROFIT PLAN. YOU SEE THE COMMUNICATIONS AND I THINK IT WE'RE INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH IT. SOMETIMES WE FORGET THAT THE RE OF TH CITY MAY NOT. HOWEVER, I DO COMMEND THE CITY STAFF FOR DOING OUTREACH ON WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE PLAN. I REMEMBER IN 2020 WE HAD POP UPS AND THAT WAS AT THE CLOVER CENTER TALKING ABOUT WHAT DO WE WANT THE NAIL TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO BE AS OUR NEW MAIN STREET WITHIN BLOOMINGTON AND THIS IS JUST A STEP IN MAKING THAT A REALITY. I THINK THAT THE BE FOR ZONING MAKE SENSE I AM APPRECIATIVE OF OF US ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO CONTINUE OPERATING BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TOO TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET OUR VISION THAT WE MAKE TS A WALKABLE VIBRANT COMMUNITY AND SO THAT SAID I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE CHANGE OF THESE PROPERTIES TO THE B4 DISTRICT AND WE'LL CONTINUE LOOKING TO STAFF TO PUSH FOR THIS VISION THAT WE'VE OUT WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. GOLTZMAN MR.. ALBRECHT THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'LL JUST ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN SAID REGARDING ALL OF THE WORK AND TIMEHATAS BEEN PUT INTO BOTH THE PUBLIC OF THE ACTUAL CREATION OF THE RETROFIT PLAN AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ONCE THE STAFF AND THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO REZONE THESE PARCELS TO BE FOR SO I JUST COMMEND THE STAFF. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE HERE. I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IT MIGHT BE FRUSTRATING TO FEEL AS THOUGH YOU ARE NOT HEARD SO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW WE DO HEAR YOU. I THINK THAT THERE IS AN ATTEMPT FOR ENGAGEMENT AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS ENGAGE AND THEN SOMETIMES OTHERS DO NOT AND GENERALLY I BELIEVE THAT CITY STAFF IS IS FAIRLY OPEN TO HEARING FEEDBACK AT ANY GIVEN TIME BUT UNFORTUNATE IT SEEMS A LITTLE LATE AND WHERE I THINK THAT WE WOULD GET IN A STIC SITUATION IS IF WE WERE TO REZONE AND THEN SAY THAT THOSE PARCELS NON-CONFORMING AND THEY COULDN'T EXIST ANYMORE THAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A POSITIVE I DON'T THINK THAT IS A POSITIVE EFFECT ON FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. HOWEVER I DO THINK THAT THE IDEA OF A NON-CONFORMING USE A LEGAL NON-CONFOINGSE I MEAN THE PAWNSHOP FOR EXAMPLE COULD EXIST FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD TIME. YOU CAN DO IMPROVEMENTS. I MEAN THAT'S WHY I ASKED MR. SAMUELSON THE QUESTION REGARDING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IMPROVEMENT AND EXPANSION. SO HOWEVER YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE FOOTPRINT OF IT BUT IMPROVEMENT TO LIKE YOU SAID ADDRESS SOME IDEAS OF THE LINDAYNDA AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN YOU KNOW WHAT MATERIAL IS ARE USED ETC. ETC. THAT CAN BE CHANGED AND THAT CAN BE UPDATED BUT THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING CANNOT CHANGE. SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'VE PUT AROUND THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING USES IN THE FACT THAT THEY CAN STILL EXIST, THEY CAN STILL MAKE IMPROVEMENTS BUT THAT THEY JUST CAN'T FOR EXAMPLE FOR THE VALVOLINE YOU CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE MORE BAYS. SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING AND I WILL ADD MY COMMENTS THERE. THANKS, COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT YOU KNOW REZONING IS TOUGH BECAUSE IT ALWAYS COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES. THERE'S THERE'S NO REASON IT DOESN'T HAVE CONSEQUENCES. AND I THINK THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR JOB HERE SITTING ON THE DAIS IS TO WEIGH THOSE DIFFULTECISIONS AND WEIGH THOSE CONSEQUENCES AND THAT MEETS THE GREATER GOOD OF THE OF THE APPLICATION OR NOT AND I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TESTIMONY HEARD TONIGHT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE AND WE DO THINK ABOUT THAT AND IT DOESN'T GO UNCONSIDERED IN THIS CASE. I DO THINK THE GREATER OF OF CREATING SOME NONCONFORMING LEGAL NONCONFORMING USES FOR THE VISION OF LYNDALE AVENUE FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS A BENEFIT AND SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THEIR TESTIMONY THIS IS NOT A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THERE IS STILL TIME. THIS DOESN'T GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF IF YOU FEEL STRONGLY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO REACH OUT, WORK WITH MR. RAMMER ALSO AND WORK WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEY WILL LISTEN TO YOUR TESTIMONY AND AS THE FINAL DECISION MAKERS. THEY WILL ALSO WEIGH IN ON THAT BEFORE THEY MAKE A FINAL DECISION IN REGARDS TO LINDA AVENUE AND THE RETROFIT PLAN, I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. IT'S THE VERY FIRST APPLICATION I SAW AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER THREE YEARS AGO AND I REMAIN IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE LINDELL AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN AND THESE REZONINGS AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION TONIGHT. I DO WANT TO GO BACK AND TOUCH ON WHAT MR. MARKERT SPOKE TO WHICH WAS THE INTERSECTION OR THE CORNER OF 94TH AND LYNDALE AND A POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF SCOPE IF YOU WILL OR A LITTLE MORE EFFORT ON THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SIDE TO YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PARCELS IN PARTICULAR THAT WE ARE HEARING ACTION ON AND WE WANT TOAKE SURE THA ALL THE PROCESSES ARE IN PLACE AND THE GUIDING AND ZONING IS AS CORRECT FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CORRIDOR. AND SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF TAKING ANOTHER ANOTHER LOOK AT THOSE AND AS THEY SEE FITS BRING BACK BRING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ANYTHING THEY THINK VALUABLE FOR THE CORRIDOR AND I WOULD LOOK FOR SOME SOME INSIGHT FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THAT COMMISSIONER CURRY APOLOGIES I MAYBE I'M NOT ON WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS OR THIS IS RELATED TO THE B4 VERSUS B2 ZONING. IS THIS BASICALLY EXPANSION OF BEFORE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY ALTERING SOME BEFORE TO BE TO WITHIN THE CORRIDOR? YEAH, I SHOULD CLARIFY IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION THE ACTION ITEM BEFORE US THIS EVENING AND THIS APPLICATION IS THE REZONING OF THESE I BELIEVE IT'S 21 OR 20 SO WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS PARCELS FROM B2 TO BE F AS A SIDE CONVERSATION MR. MERCURY WAS LOOKING FOR INPUT ON A SEPARATE ITEM FOR THEM AS THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF POTENTIALLY BRINGING ANOTHER APPLICATION OR ANOTHER STUDY ITEM BEFORE US. TAKE A LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL PARCELS AND I'M STATING MY APPROVAL OF SOME EXTRA STAFF TIME ON THAT. THANKS COMMISSIONER HOLTZMAN THANKS CHAIR. I WOULD ALSO WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF STAFF LOOKING AT THE 94TH AVENUE STREET I'M SORRY 94TH STREET AREA. THANK AND TO AVOID ANY FURTHER CONFUSION LET'S LET'S CLOSE OFF THIS OTHER THING IS THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON STAFF DIRECTION AT 94TH AND LYNDALE ? MR. CURRY YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. OKAY. VERY WELL. ANYBODY ELSE SEEING NONE WILL SEPARATE THAT NOW AND GET BACK TO THE ITEM AT HAND WHICH IS THE ZONING OF BEATS YOU TO BE FOR AND I'LL LOOK FOR FURTHER MMENTARY ON THIS APPLICATION . MR. CURRY THANK YOU CHAIR. I DO THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT PAWN AMERICA ISHE ONLY GROUP TO COME UP IN SPOKEN THREE WAY. FORD IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY LARGE BUSINESS AND HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING SO THERE I STILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL SO SOMETHING I'M JUST CONSIDERING NOW THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTARY. IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION. MR. ROBER THA YOU MR. CHAIR. IN CASE PEOPLE 2023-106I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY'S OFFICIAL ZONING MAP TO REZONE 28 LOTS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A ATTACHED TO THIS STAFF FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL B2 TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL BEFORE ITS SECOND. OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING THESE 28 LOTS FROM B2 TO B FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL C I. I OPPOSED THIS MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS NOW WILL MOVE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 18TH AS A PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR THIRD ITEM THIS EVENING ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE 98TH STREET INTERCHANGE STUDY. WE HAVE MR. KIRK ROBERTS, A TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. ALONGSIDE HIM I BELIEVE WILL BE BRIAN NEMETH FROM FULTON AND MC. MR. ROBERTS GOOD EVENING AND YOU HAVE A STAFF REPORT. GOOD EVENING CHAIR COTAN COMMISSIONER THANK YOU FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. AS I SAID I'M KIRK ROBERTS TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER FOR THE CITY. THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE MARCH 9TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE'RE HERE JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE 98 STREET STUDY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST YEAR OR SO. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE STUDY WE'RE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHICH WILL TAKE PLACEATER IN THE MONTHS STATED. BUT I'M GLAD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN. UH, LET'S SEE. SO MOST OF US GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO CITY HALL MOST OF US ARE FAIRLY FAMILIAR WITH THE 98TH STREET CORRIDOR, THE STUDY AREA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT EXTENDS FROM LYNDALE ALL THE WAY UP TO JAMES AVENUE JUST OFF OF THE BACK OF THE CITY HALL HERE AT THE CORNER OF CITY HALL I SHOULD SAY AND THIS THE INTERCHANGE IN PARTICULAR HAS BECOME QUITE AN IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION. THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION HUB IN THE CITYND IN RECENT YEARS IT'S PROMINENCE AS A TRANSIT HUB HAS CONTINUED TO GROW AND THE THIS STOP THE 98TH STREET STATION IS ONE OF TWO KEY STOP STATIONS IN THE CITY. THE OTHER BEING THE MALL OF AMERICA AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT REGIONALLY AS WELL. THERE WAS FOR THE INTERCHANGE ITSELF A PLAN DEVELOPED IN THE 1990S AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN AND HAVING DRIVEN THROUGH IT YOU PROBABLY NOTICE NORTH IS ORIENTED TO THE TOP HERE THE RAMPS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM ARE EXISTING THE RAMPS ON THE RIGHT SIDE THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER ARE ACTUALLY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE STATE, BY THE CITY, BY THE COUNTY AND ONCE IT WAS ADOPTED IN THE NINETIES AS WE DO WE STARTED MARCHING FORTH TO GET PROPERTY FOR THOSE FUTURE RAMPS. PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED, TRANSIT CAME FORTH AND SAID OH CAN WE JUST TEMPORARILY PUT A TRANSIT STATION ON THOSE PROPERTIES THEY'RE NOT USING FOR ANYTHING UNL YOU BUILD THOSE RAMPS. THAT'S BECOME THE 98TH STREET TRANSIT STATION. YET THIS PLAN REMAINS TO BUILD FREEWAY RAMPS. THEIR TRANSIT SERVICE IS VITAL TO THE CITY. I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND THE CITY IS VERY SUPPORTIVE IN ANY INCREASE IN TRANSIT SERVICE. SO THE IDEA OF REMOVING A VERY SUCCESSFUL REGIONAL TRANSIT STATION TO BUILD FREEWAY RAMPS ISN'T GOING TO FLY ANYMORE. WE NEED A NEW PLAN AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR GOALS OF THE STUDY IN ADDITION TO THAT QUESTIONS CAME UP CAN WE COME UP WITH AN INTERCHANGE DESIGN THAT DOESN'T JUST KEEP THE TRANSIT STATION BUT COULD IT SUPPORT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ABOVE THE TRANSIT STATION AND? THIS WAS ALLUDED TO BY MR. BRAMMER OLSON EARLIER. METRO TRANSIT IS INTERESTED IN THIS. THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN THIS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTS BUT SOME COMMERCIAL AS WELL. BUT IT'S DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ORIENTED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LARGELY TRANSIT DEPENDENT. THEY DON'T OWN A SINGLE IDENTITY OR THEY DON'T OWN VEHICLES EITHER BY CICER BY NECESSITY. IT'S NOT AN AREA THAT'S WELL, SIR, BUT IT'S CRITICAL FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T DRIVE CAN'T DRIVE THAT KIND OF A SITUATION IS IDEAL AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN . WE'RE INTERESTED AND CAN WE CAN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WILL THE INTERCHANGE SUPPORT IT? WELL, TO LOOK AT THAT RIGHT NOW THE STATE MDOT, OUR PEERS HAVE THEIR THUMB ON THIS LAND THINKING ABOUT RAMPS FOR THE FUTURE. SO WE'VE GOT TO COME UP AND DEMONSTRATE TO THEM THAT WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT IDEA SO THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THAT PROPERTY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING ELSE. ANOTHER BIG QSTIO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE LYNDALE RETROFIT STUDY THAT THE THE VISION FOR LYNDALE AVENUE AND FOR THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR IS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS A MUCH GREATER DENSITIES, LESS AUTO DEPENDENT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT GENERATES LESS EQUIVALENT TRAFFIC THAN PERHAPS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT IT STILL DOES DEVELOP MORE TRAFFIC WHEN WE HAD THAT VISION AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS CAN THIS INTERCHANGE SUPPORT IT THAT WAS THE OTHER GOAL OF THE STUDY IS CAN CAN THIS AREA THIS INTERCHANGE SUPPORT WHAT SEE AS THE FUTURE AND THEN LASTLY, IT'S A WONDERFUL AREA IN TERMS OF AMENITIES AND THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN FIND THERE SHOPPING, RETAIL, HEALTH CARE ,HAIRCUTS, CLOTHING JUST ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ALL THAT BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. SO CAN WE COME UP WITH A DESIGN LONG TERM THAT MAKES THIS AREA MUCH BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC, MAINTAINS VEHICULAR CAPACITY BUT IMPROVES LIVES CONDITIONS FOR WALKERS, FOR BICYCLISTS, FOR TRANSIT USERS THOSE WERE THE HIGH LEVEL GOALSOR THE STUDY AND THEN TO DO THAT WE HAD SOME GOALS HERE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS. THE ENGAGEMENT ON THIS ONE WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. WE WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE THAT USE THE AREA THAT LIVE IN THE AREA THAT RIDE THE BUS THAT THAT DO ALL THAT. AND SO THAT WAS A LARGE GOAL AND TO DO THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD PARTNERS WE'VE ENGAGED WITH THE MINNESOTA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, HENNEPIN COUNTY METRO TRANSIT AND MET COUNCIL AND JUST A WHOLE RAFT OF OTHER FOLKS WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD RESULTS AND BRIAN NEMETH IS HERE ME AND I'M REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE HIS WORK ON THIS. HE'S COME UP WITH SOME VERY GOOD DESIGNS ADVANCED THINKING ABOUT THE INTERCHANGE AND BECAUSE OF HIS WORK AND THE COORDINATION WE'VE WITH OUR PARTNERS WE'RE LOOKING AT A RAFT OF PROJECTS TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS TO MAINTAIN THAT IN CHANGING THE FUTURE, THE FIRST OF WHICH WILL PROBABLY START IN ABOUT 2026. SO TO RUN THROUGH THE REST OF THE STUDY AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WE FOUND IS BRIAN NEMETH FROM PORTLAND GOOD EVENING MR. NEMETH THANK YOU. THANKS KIRK. THE COMMISSIONERS SO I'M JUST GETTING ON TO SOME OF THE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT KIRK HAD HAD ORIGINALLY JUST MENTIONED HERE WE DID HAVE SOME FLOWS STUDY OUT ON THIS CORRIDOR WITH SIDEWALK DECALS. WE HAD A VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH KIRK ARMS. WE HAD SOCIAL MEDIA BLASTS, WE HAD FLIERS EMAIL SUBSCRIPTION TO GET SOME OF THAT ENGAGEMENT OUT HERE WE HAD WEBSITE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON THAT WAS ARE A BIG PORTION OF THIS PROJECT WAS ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN PERSON BUT TRYIN TO GETOME OF THAT ONLINE ENGAGEMENT RECOGNIZING THAT ANY OF THE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN PERSON ARE USUALLY LIMITED IN TIME AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN MAKE THOSE TIMES. SO PROVIDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH ONLINE WAS ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE ENDED UP DOING ALSO POP UP EVENTS AT ALONG THE CORRIDOR WE HAD FOCUSED CONVERSATIONS WITH CERTAIN GROUPS. WE HAD SOME FREE OPEN HOUSE ENGAGEMENT AND THEN WE ALSO HAD OPEN HOUSES GOING INTO THAT SPECIFICALLY WE HAD TWO POP UP EVENTS. WE HAD ONE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET LAST SUMMER WE ALSO HAD ONE AT THE TRANSIT STATION ST FALL. THIS WAS MORE ENGAGE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT CORRIDOR, THOSE TRANSIT USERS THAT ARE USING THE AREA. WE ALSO HAD FOCUSED CONVERSATIONS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE COMMUNITY USES THE CORRIDOR. WE HAD THE CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HAD ONE AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL AND THE SUMMER HOUSE INDEPENDENT LIVING. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING ALL AGES OF PEOPLE, ALL RACIAL PEOPLE IN THIS AREA JUST TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFERENT PEOPLE USE THIS CORRIDOR. AND WE ALSO HAD TWO OPEN HOUSES. WE HAD ONE IN IN IN PERSON ONE IN DECEMBER BUT WE ALSO HAD THE ONLINE ENGAGEMENT FOR THAT OPEN HOUSE THROUGH JANUARY. WE ALSO HAD AN OPEN HOUSE THIS LAST SUMMER HERE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO IN PERSON BUT WE ALSO AGAIN HAD THAT ONLINE ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE FOR THAT. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THE KIND OF A USER SURVEY THAT WAS COMPLETED ON THE CORRIDOR EARLY IN THE STUDY WAS TERMING YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE USE THE CORRIDOR THEY DRIVE ON THE CORRIDOR, THEY USE IT ON A DAILY BASIS AS THE CORRIDOR WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE ON THE CORNER IT INDICATES REALLY PEOPLE WILL STILL YOU DRIVE THIS CORRIDOR TO MAKING SURE SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ANY OPPORTUNITIES OR ANY CHANGES WE MAKE TO THE CORRIDOR STILL WORKS TO THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THERE. BUT AS THE BIG THING IS THERE WAS A BIG INTEREST IN MORE BICYCLING, MORE PEDESTRIAN USE AND MORE PUBLIC TRANSIT. SO RECOGNIZING IF WE COULD IMPROVE THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES MORE PEOPLE WOULD END UP THEM. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, COMMENTS WE HAVE VERY A LOT OF SUMMARY INFORMATION ON HERE ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE CORRIDOR THAT PEOPLE LIKED, WHAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE AND I'LL GO INTO A BIT MORE AS WE GO INTO THOSE CONCEPTS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS AND OF THESE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAD. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE CAME OF A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC IS IT'S NOT A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO BIKE OR TO WALK ALONG ANY PLACE OF THIS CORRIDOR. SO THE BETTER THE BETTER WE CAN MAKE THOSE FACILITIES. MORE PEOPLE WILL USE THOSE FACILITIES. THAT WAS KIND OF THE BIGGEST THING AND THEN ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT DO HAVE CONGESTION, THERE ARE AREAS THAT FEEL UNSAFE TO PEOPLE. SO IF WE CAN IMPROVE SOME OF THOSE OTHER AREAS TOO WITH SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE AGAIN AGAIN LIGHTING WAS ANOTHER THING TREES O THIS CORRIDOR TO JUST TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN INVITING CORRIDOR GOING INTO JUMPING ONE OF THE MIDTERM CONCEPTS KIND OF PREFACE THIS KIND OF THREE STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS CONCEPTS THERE IS STAGE ONE IS KIND OF IN THE NEAR TERM MDOT ACTUALLY HAS A PROJECT ACTUALLY THEY STARTED OUT THIS SUMMER IN 2023 WAS DOING SOME ADA IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERCHANGE ADDITIONALLY IN 2026 THEY DO A PROJECT THAT WILL REPLACE THE TWO TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT THE INTERCHANGE AND THEY'RE ALSO PLANNING ON DOING ADA AND GEOMETRIC IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT TIME. FULL EXTENT OF WHAT THERE ACTUALLY GOINGO DO IS STILL BEEN NOTED, STILL DISCUSSING THAT WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THE SECOND STAGE IS THESE MIDTERM CONCEPTS. THIS IS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING BRIDGE AT I-35W. THEY WANT TO GO OVER 35 W REMAINING IN PLACE AND MINOR REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT NEAR LYNDALE AVENUE AND THEN ALSO THEN STAGE THREE IS MORE OF A LONG TERM CONCEPT. THIS WOULD BE FULLY REPLACING THE BRIDGE OVER 35 W AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE LIFE OF THE BRIDGE IS ABOUT 20 PLUS YEARS SO RECOGNIZING THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE RIGHT AWAY BUT WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE MIDTERM IS CHANGING EVERYTHING ELSE BESIDES THE BRIDGE AND THEN IN THE LONG TERM REPLACING THE BRIDGE AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT ELEMENTS FROM LATER STAGES COULD BE INCORPORATED EARLIER IF THERE WERE FUNDING IF THERE WAS REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT AVAILABLE, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WORKED TOGETHER. SO LOOKING AT THE FIRST MIDTERM CORRIDOR CONCEPT HERE IS KIND OF THE WEST END SOURCE OF THE OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD 98TH STREET PORTION OF THE CORRIDOR . ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE HAD WAS THAT THERE ARE LIMITED CROSSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR 98 STREET IN THIS AREA. SO IF YOU LOOK AT JAMES AVENUE RIGHT OUTSIDE CITY HALL HERE, THAT'S ONE CROSSING LOCATION, THE NEXT CROSSING LOCATION TO TOWARDS THE INTERCHANGE IS THE INTERCHANGE. SO THERE ARE IS A COMPLETE LACK OF ANY FACILITIES NORTH-SOUTH ACROSS THE CORRIDOR IN THIS AREA THERE ARE TRANSIT STOPS THAT ARE WITHIN THE AREA. SO ANYBODY GETTING OFF AT A TRANSIT STOP ON THE NORTH SIDE HAS EITHER WALK EAST TO THE INTERCHANGE OR WALK WEST TO JAMESVENU TO GET ACROSS CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS. SO THIS OPTION INCLUDES A NEW CROSSING AT HUMBOLDT AVENUE METRO TRANSIT ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW THEY STOP ON THE FOR THEIR WESTBOUND BUSSES STOP ON THE EAST SIDE OF TRACKS WITH THIS WE HAD WITH METRO TRANSIT THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO MOVE THEIR TRANSIT STOP TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE TRACKS AND CLOSE TO THIS THIS TYPE OF CROSSING AND ALSO RECOGNIZE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPOUNITY BECAUSE ANY PUBLIC STREET INTERSECTION IS OFFICIALLY BY STATE LAW AS A CROSSING. SO TIME THEY CAN MAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE CROSSINGS AT AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW THAT THEY WILL ARE IN SUPPORT OF THAT . SO LOOKING AT ADDING THAT AND ADDING THAT TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT BE THERE SO IT'S JUST EXPANDING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S AT THAT INTERSECTION ALSO IMPROVE THE ROAD CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS. SO RIGHT NOW THE THE CROSSING ACRO THE RAILROAD CROSSES AT A REALLY ACUTE ANGLE. SO IF YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE YOU COULD GET STUCK AT THE TRACKS SO PROVIDING A BETTER CROSSING ANGLE ACROSS THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR SAFETY. WE ALSO WANT TO REDUCE ANY REDUCE AND ELIMINATE ANY SIDESWIPES SPECIFICALLY ON OLD CHICOPEE ROAD AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THAT INTERSECTION IT GOES DOWN FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE AND THEN IT'S GOT BIG FREE SWEEPING FREE RATE FROM GO FROM NORTHBOUND TO EASTBOUND AND 98TH STREET. SO ELIMINATING THAT ACTUALLY KEEPING TWOANES AND MAKE IT A DUAL RIGHT TURN TO ELIMINATE THAT THE SIDESWIPES THAT YOU GET WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MERGE TWO LANES INTO ONE WE'RE ALSO REDUCING IT AND GETTING UNDER THAT FREE THAT'S A HIGH SPEED RIGHT TURN LANE WHICH ACTUALLY IMPROVE ACTUALLY PEDESTRIAN SAFETY GOING ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION TO. SO REALIGNING THAT CROSSING THE GRASS IS ALL CHALK TO BE ROLLED WITH THIS OTHER BIG THING WOULD BE A WIDER MULTI-USE TRAIL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR. SO CURRENTLY THERE'S THIS IS A SIDEWALK B IT' KIND OF OVERGROWN. YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY BUILT AS FIVE OR SIX FEET. IT'S NOW PROBABLY DOWN WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE IT'S ABOUT FOUR FEET WITH THE WAY THE GRASS OVERGROWN ON THERE BUT PROVIDING A 8 TO 10 FOOT TRAIL IN THIS CORRIDOR AND LOOKING AT THE BID AREA OF THIS THE CORRIDOR IS THE I-35 INTERCHANGE. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THE BRIDGE OVER I-35W WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE JUST LIKE THIS. BUT WITH DOT'S CURRENT BRIDGE REPORTS INDICATING THAT AS 20 PLUS YEARS OF LIFE LEFT OF IT AND IT IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE BRIDGE WITHOUT EXTENSIVE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WOULD BASICALLY REQUIRE REPLACING THE BRIDGE SO EVERYTHING KIND OF STAYS AS IT IS AT THE CURRENT BRIDGE. LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTION THOUGH, WE ARE LOOKING REVISING THE OPERATIONS AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO REDUCE SOME CONFLICTS. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BICYCLIST AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES THAT HAVE OCCURRED AT THE INTERSECTION SO TRYING TO IMPROVE HOW THE OPERATIONS OF THE INTERSECTION ARE OCCURRING. WE'VE WORKED WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY ON DEVELOPING A SIGNAL PLAN AND OPERATION THAT WOULD HELP IMPROVE THINGS WITH THAT BE A SEPARATE LEFT TURN PHASE NORTHBOUND SOUTHBOUND ESPECIALLY WITH PEDESTRIANS CROSSING LESS LIKE AN INTERSECTION TO HAVE A LEFT TURN THAT COULD MOVE SEPARATELY FROM THOSE PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS AND PROVIDE BETTER SAFETY FOR THOSE PEDESTRIANS. I WAS LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL TRANSIT BYPASS LANE SO THAT THAT RED LINE IN THERE IS ACTUALLY A IT'S A NARROW SHOULDER THAT TRANSIT BUSSES COULD USE TO BYPASS OTHER VEHICLES IF THEY NEED TO JUMP AHEAD. SO IT'S KIND OF A QUEUE JUMP OPERATION THERE SO THEY WOULD GET A SEPARATE INDICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO JUMP AHEAD OF ANY OTHER LEFT TURNING TRAFFIC FOR THAT SOUTHBOUND LEFT SO ENHANCING THAT TRANSIT ALSO LOOKING AT REMOVING THAT SOUTHBOUND FREE RIGHT AND THAT WAS ALL IN SUPPORT OF REMOVING THAT FREE RIGHT IT'S A FRE RIGHTS ARE YOU KNOW INHERENTLY THEY RESULT IN HIGH SPEED VEHICLES MAKING THOSE MOVEMENTS AND PEDESTRIANS HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME CROSSING THEM SO ANY TIME WE CAN REMOVE THOSE AND IT DOESN'T IMPACT OPERATIONS AS A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT WE ALSO WANT TO ADD AN OVERHEAD SIGN DESTINATIONS ON THE EASTBOUND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE POTENTIAL OVERHEAD SIGN STRUCTURE FOR LANE GUIDANCE SO PROVIDING MORE INFORMATION TO PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT ROADWAY WHICH LANE TO BE IN IF YOU WANT TO GO NORTH ON 35 W OR YOU WANT TO ADD SOUTH AND 35 W BECAUSE CURRENTLY THAT DOES NOT OCCUR AND WE HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE SIDESWIPE CRASHES OCCUR IN THAT AREA. SO PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION ON THIS ONE IS MAINTAINING THAT TRANSIT STATION. SO JUST ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF THIS IS MAKING SURE EVERYTHING WORKS HERE FOR THIS KIND OF MIDTERM, THIS TEN YEAR 10 TO 20 YEAR TIME FRAME IS MAKING SURE THAT IT STILL WORKS WITH THAT TRANSIT STATION. IT WORKS WITH THE OPERATIONS OUT THERE. ADDITIONALLY WITH THIS WE LOOKING AT SOME REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT TRANSIT STATION SITE JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND LOOKING AT A 250 SPACE PARKING RAMP, SOME ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL ABOUT 5000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND THEN POTENTIALLY UP TO A SET 375 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING. SO RECOGNIZING WE TOOK THAT ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS GOING ON TO THE LYNDALE CORE PART OF THE CORRIDOR LOOKING AT AGAIN DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT AREA BESIDES THE TRANSIT STATION WE'RE ALSO LOOKED AT THE NORTHWEST LOOKING AT MAINTAINING A VERY SIMILAR AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL OIL THAT IS OUT THERE TODAY ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE FEET BUT ALSO ADDING IN ABOUT 300 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING IN THERE. SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THIS AGAIN DOES WORK WITH THAT SOME OF THAT REDEVELOPMENT. ADDITIONALLY WE ALSO LOOKED AT SOME POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT AND LOOKING AT THE FESTIVAL FOODS PARKING LOT RECOGNIZING . THE PARKING LOT IS VERY UNDERUTILIZED IS LOOKING AT MAYBE AN 80 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING IN THAT SITE. SO AGAIN LOOKING AT ANY OF THESE THINGS IN THE MIDTERM IS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE REDEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS OCCURRING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HANDLING EXISTING TRAFFIC THAT WE ARE AT SOME INCREASE BIGGEST CHANGES THAT LYNDALE AVENUE OR REMOVING THOSE FREE RATES AGAIN MENTIONED THAT YOU KNOW PROVIDING A SAFER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS ALSO SHORTER PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS BOTH LYNDALE AVENUE AND 90TH STREET PART OF THAT IS REDUCING THE LEFT TURN LANES ON A 98TH STREET FROM A DUAL LEFT TO A SINGLE LEFT PEOPLE WILL SAY WELL YOU'RE REDUCING. IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK AS WELL. WE WE EVALUATED IT OUT AT HOW MUCH TIME IS AVAILABLE TO THE DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LEFT TURN LANES WITHOUT SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGING THE OPERATIONS THAT THAT SIGNAL ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THE TURN LANES THEY ARE REALLY IN THEY ARE NOT EQUALLY TODAY THEY'RE TYPICALLY ALL THE TRAFFIC IS STACKED UP IN ONE OF THEM AND THE OTHER ONE HAS ONE OR TWO VEHICLES UNDER DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR FURTHER DESTINATION IS DOWN THE ROADWAY OTHER CHANGES HERE WOULD BE JUST IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN RAMPS IMPROVED ACCESS TO THAT TRANSIT STATION. YOU CAN LOOK WITH THE WIDER TRAIL ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT AN EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL FROM 98TH STREET TO THE SOUTH ON THE EAS SID OF LYNDALE AVENUE. SO CURRENTLY SOUTH OF THE SHOPPING AREA THERE THERE IS A TRAIL BUT IT IS IT THERE IS A SHORT PIECE THAT'S IN BETWEEN THERE THAT THERE IS NO TRAIL. SO EXPANDING THIS FOR THOSE TWO BLOCKS TO CONNECT UP ALSO INCORPORATING ANY TREES, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND LIGHTING INTO THOSE WIDER BOULEVARDS MATCHES THEM WITH THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN AND ALSO THOSE BOULEVARDS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SNOW STORAGE THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT AS A POSITIVE ONE. THIS CORRIDOR OPEN IN THE LONG TERM CONCEPTS ON WEST END LOOKING AT ADDING AN A MULTI-USE TRAIL ON THE SOUTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR THE REASON WE DIDN'T DO THIS IN THE MIDTERM BECAUSE THIS WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY PROPERTY ACQUISITION TO OBTAIN THE PROPERTY TO BUILD THAT TRAIL THE RIGHT OF WAY IS RIGHT ACTUALLY PART OF THE SIDEWALK IS CURRENTLY ON THE IS THROUGH EASEMENTS ON THAT PROPERTY BUT THERE IS NOT OUGH CURRENT EASEMENT TO ALLOW A TRAIL IN THAT IN THAT AREA. SO LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY A TRAIL AND AGAIN SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT AREA ALSO WITH THAT AGAIN WOULD BE THE BRIDGE. SO AGAIN THIS IS A 20 YEAR PLUS CHANGE HERE IN PURPLE THERE IS FROM THE MIDTERM IMPROVEMENT JUST RECOGNIZING THAT ANYTHING WE BUILD IN THE MIDTERM ONE REBUILD AS LITTLE AS WE NEED TO WHEN WE FINALLY DO TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE. SO BRIDGE THE BIG CHANGE HERE IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE AS I THINK YOU'VE RECOGNIZED TODAY IS THAT THAT LEFT TURN LANE CAN BACK UP AT TIMES OF THE DAY SO ALLOWING THAT FUTURE EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ALSO THIS MEETS MANDATES AND METROPOLITAN COUNCIL'S GOAL OF MAINTAINING A SIMILAR CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT NEW INTERCHANGE RAMPS WOULD PROVIDE AND THIS PROVIDES THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT BACK IN THE 1990S PLAN. THE OTHER BIG CHANGE HERE WOULD BE THE WESTBOUND RIGHT TURN LANE ON THAT PROPEY IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER. SO ANY DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE CLOVER SHOPPING CENTER WE'D BE LOOKING AT OBTAINING SOME EXTRA PROPERTY THERE. THERE'S A THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THAT GOES DOWN TO THEIR PARKING LOT AND THAT'S THE REASON REALLY THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY TURN LANE BUT ANY REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT WE WOULD LIKE TO YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND PUTTING IN A RIGHT TURN LANE PROVIDES ADDITIONAL CAPACITY NEEDS THIS INTERCHANGE A LITTLE BACKGROUND FROM THE OPEN HOUSE MBERWO PARTICIPATION SO AGAIN WE PRESENTED THESE FINAL TO EVERYBODY WE HAD THE ONLINE COMMENT PERIOD OPEN FOR FOR WEEKS WE HAD OVER 100 PEOPLE VISIT THE WEBSITE AND 75 PEOPLE ENGAGED ONLINE SO SOME QUITE EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT AND MOSTLY POSITIVE COMMENTS THAT GOTTEN TO THE PLAN JUST MORE JUST MORE INTEREST ON ON WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. LET'S GET A LITTLE MORE BEYOND THE 98TH STREET CORRIDOR. WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL OTHER CROSSINGS OF 35 W JUST RECOGNIZING THAT PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE DO HAVE THE 96TH STREET ALIGNMENT LOOKING AT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ACROSS THERE. THE GRADES WORK REALLY WELL FOR SOME KIND OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSING BRIDGE OPTION IN THIS AREA. YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AT THE RAILROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S IN THERE, THE GRADES SEEM TO WORK WITH THAT. SO WE'RE STILL EVALUATING SOME OPTIONS BUT IT REALLY WORKS WELL BENEATH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT REALLY MAKE THIS A WELL-USED CROSSING. SO I THINK THA PARTF IT WITH THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN AND CONNECTING THESE AREAS UP ANOTHER ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE WEST SIDE NINTH STREET ALIGNMENT. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT WITH SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOP THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE AND ADDITIONALLY THE LIMITER RIGHT OF WAY AND SOME OF THE GREAT ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT IN THE AREA BUT IT DOES HAVE A BUILT IN USER BASE POPULATION SO HAVING ONE HERE IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S REALLY WANTED AND NEEDED BY THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA BUT IT'S A MUCH MORE DIFFICULT ONE TO TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT. SO BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS JUST TO HAVE THIS IN THE PLAN. LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION THE WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE CROSSING FOR 98TH STREET AT THE ALDRICH AVENUE CROSSING PART OF THE LYNDALE RETROFIT PLAN WAS A GREEN SPINE. SO THIS IS A A CORRIDOR NORTH OF 98TH STREET. IT REALLY IS A PEDESTRIAN SCALE ENVIRONMENT THAT WILL CONNECT TO THAT TRANSIT STATION. SO REFINE THAT CONNECTION FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF 98TH STREET TO THE TRANSIT STATION FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS. SO THERE ARE CROSSINGS THE FREEWAY THERE'S ALSO THE CROSSINGS ALLENDALE AVENUE PROVIDING DIRECT CONNECTION. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME KIND OF EITHER PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR SKYWAY ACROSS 9098 STREET AT THIS LOCATION. SO WE WILL BE LOOKING AT ANY REDEVELOPMENT OR DEVELOPMENT OF THAT ENTIRE TRANSIT STATION SITE WOULD LOOK INTO SOME CONSIDERATION FOR POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER TO CONNECT INTO THIS AREA AND AGAIN WITH ANYTHING HAPPENING ON THE NORT SIDEE'D ALSO BE LOOKING TRYING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING INTO THAT SIDE OF THE SITE TO TO PROVIDE THIS CONNECTION. SO IF NEXT STEPS WE HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE TONIGHT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE ON AUGUST 28TH. SO LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TONIGHT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND ADOPTION ON FOR ON AUGUST 28TH JUST RECOMMENDED CONCEPTS JUST TO ACHIEVE THE STUDY GOALS AND TO PROVIDE A LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE INTERCHANGE PRESERVES AND MAINTAIN AND ENHANCES THE TRANSIT STATION MAINTAINS EXISTING EXISTING VEHICULAR MOBILITY INCLUDING TRANSIT ENHANCES NON-MOTORIZED TRAFFIC MOBILITY, IMPROVE SAFETY FOR ALL USERS AND ALLOWS FOR TRAFFIC GROWTH TO DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE AREA. SO OVERALL WE'RE SEEKING A RECOENDATION THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE STUDY FINDINGS THAT THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST EIGHT, 2023. THANK YOU MR. NIEVES. IT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS WE HAVE FOR THE FIRST TWO ITEMS WE WILL START WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR MR. NIEVES? MR. CURRY THANK YOU CHAIR. DIFFICULT FOR ME TO READ THE WIDTHS OF THE PODESTA RE AND BIKE RD OR TIL WHATEVER. CAN YOU CAN YOU ELABORATE ON LIKE WHAT IT IS IN THE SHORT TERM IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TEN FEET IN THE LONG TERM BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE A WAYS OFF. YES. LOOKING AT THE MULTI-USE TRAIL WE ARE LOOKING AT A TEN FOOT MULTI-USE TRAIL LONG TERM CURRENTLY I LIKE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE IT IS TEN FEET. THE SIDEWALK IS TEN FEET ON THAT SIDE THE NORTH SIDE THE SIDEWALK IS ACTUALLY A FIVE FEET SO CURRENT SIDEWALKS ARE FIVE FEET OUT THERE AND A PROPOSED WOULD BE TEN FEET. IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR SEPARATION BETWEEN ANY I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO SEPARATION OR MARKINGS FOR BIKES VERSUS PEDESTRIANS BUT I MEAN PERSONALLY I DO A DIS AMOUNT OF ROAD BIKING AND I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD BIKE DOWN HALF THE MAIN ROADS IN BLOOMINGTON KNOW I THINK BLOOMINGTON HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE AND BE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE FRIENDLY. SO JUST CURIOUS JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS TO TO OPEN IT UP FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS. YEAH. SO WE DID IT. WE DID OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DOING A LIKE A GRADE SEPARATED CYCLE TRACK SO LOOKING AT A TEN FOOT BIKEWAY WITH A SEPARATE SIDEWALK JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXTRA RIGHT OF WAY NEED FOR THAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRIDOR THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO FIT AS WELL WITH THIS QUARTER NOT SAYING IT COULDN'T BE FIT IN LATER BUT IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THEN. PART OF IT IS DURING THE LYNDALE AVENUE INTERSECTION IT'S REALLY HARD. EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO COME TOGETHER JUST BASED ON THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE TODAY. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NO BETWEEN THE TWO CORRECT? THERE WOULD BE A MULTI-USE TRAIL CORRECT. OTHER QUESTIONS C NONE. THIS AGAIN HAS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS THE APPLICANT. SO WE WILL THEN TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM SEE NO ONE STEPPING FORWARD HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. MR. MARKER DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO CAPTA? I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE WEBEX TO CHECK THAT OUT SHARING MY SCREEN HERE AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THAT SOMEHOW WE WE REMAIN A PATIENT GROUP AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU JUST A MINUTE THERE . HMM. I'M NOT SURE JURY CAPTAIN, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IS ANYBODY IN THE WEBEX? ANYBODY ELSE BY CHANCE? JUST I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S STILL UP AND RUNNING AND THEN YES, MR. NEMETH, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE YOU GIVE THAT PRESENTATION AGAIN HERE BUT WE'LL NEVER SEE THAT THAT'S YOUR DISPLAY. THAT'S DISPLAYING THE SCREEN BRAIN JUST THE DESKTOP THE BLACK DESKTOP. YEAH, BROWSING THE WEB LIKE LOGARITHMS ALL. RIGHT. SO MY THERE'S A WAY TO STOP SHARING. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY JUST TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER CURRY'S QUESTION ABOUT THE BIKE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES. ONE OF THE AREAS WE GET INTO JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION,OU KNOW, DO WE ADD THE TRAIL FOR THE CYCLISTS, THE SIDEWALK AND THEN SOME SEPARATION BETWE THEWO IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'VE ALSO GOT TO PROVIDE THAT ROOM FOR SNOW STORAGE JUST OFF OF THE CURB LINE OF THE ROADWAY TOO. SO YOU'VE GOT SIX FOOT THERE JUST FOR SNOW STORAGE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE YOU KNOW, THE YOUR NON-MOTORIZED AMENITIES AND IT REALLY BECOMES AN ISSUE WHEN YOU HIT THOSE BRIDGE DECKS. BRIDGES ARE STILL ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE THINGS THAT WE DO IN ENGINEERING AND YOU MEASURE BY THE SQUARE FOOT AND SO EVERY SQUARE FOOT YOU'RE ADDING YOU GET INTO THAT INCREASE IN COST. AND SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE RIGHT FACILITY FOR THE MOTOR FOR THE NON-MOTORIZED USERS? DO WE DO SOMETHING LIKE A TRAIL PLUS SIDEWALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND IT'S POSSIBLE ON SE PTS OF THE CORRIDOR WITH THE EXISTING PRYSM IT'S JUST YOU'D HAVE TO STOP IT ALL WHEN YOU HIT THAT BRIDGE AND TAKE BACK DOWN TO TEN FOOT AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE IN THIS CONTEXT? AND SO IT'S A SERIES OF JUDGMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHEN YOU'RE PLANNING A PROJECT LIKE THAT. SO I HOPE THAT THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. I DO A LOT OF CYCLING AS AND I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT SPACE AWAY FROM TRAFFIC AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. THANK YOU MR. ROBERTS THIS RECORD HOW WE DO AN ONLINE JURY CAPTAIN EVERYBODY ONLINE AND CITY STAFF SO NOBODY TO TESTIFY VERY WELL LAST CALL FOR FOLKS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS SEEING NOBODY. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S MOTION TO CLOSE MOTION TO CLOSE THE WAY HAVE A SECOND SECOND OF A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER CURRY, THANK YOU. SURE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TEN FEET IS PROBABLY FE IUESS SO LONG AS I SAY SEPARATION I THINK LIKE JUST LITERALLY A SOLID LIKE A SOLID LINE THAT SAYS HERE HERE'S OUR BICYCLIST GO AND HERE'S WHERE WALKERS GO. I MEAN IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I'M DRIVING A CAR OR RIDING IN A BIKE. I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH EITHER ONE OF THE TWO SO WITH THE OTHER ONE SO JUST THAT KIND OF DEFINITION BETWEEN THE TWO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN IN THE FINAL PLAN VERY WELL MR. GOLTZMAN THANKS CHAIR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AS THEN A COMMISSIONER FOR A WHILE I'VE SEEN THIS PLAN A FEW TIMES AND SO I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DIGEST AND REALLY SEE HOW IT CAN BE APPLIED TO THIS INTERCHANGE OR THIS CORRIDOR. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOK IS I HAVE ACTUALLY TRIED BIKING 98TH STREET AND IT'S TERRIFYING AND I VOWED NEVER TO DO IT AGAIN. SO I APPRECIATE STAFF AT THIS AND MAKING IT SAFER FOR BIKING WELL AS WALKING AS WELL AS MOTOR TRAFFIC AS WELL AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT HAS LOOKED AT THE CHANGE IN HOW OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS WILL BE OVER TIME THINKING ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AND HOW RESIDENTS MAY USE TRANSIT OR OR NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATEHATHEY HAVE LKED AT THAT NEAR MEDIUM AND LONG TERM GOAL IN PLANNING. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING WE LOOK BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SLIDE THAT THEY SHOWED US AS THE LONG TERM MAY NEVER HAPPEN THINGS CHANGE AND SO I LIKE THAT DONE ITERATIONS AND WE HAVE A FLEXIBILITY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS OUR POPULATION CHANGES AS TO HER COMMENTS ON THE PEDESTRIAN PIECES OBVIOUSLY I REALLY AM IN SUPPORT OF THE CONNECTION OF THAT MULTI-USE TO THE EXISTING TRAIL OFF OF ALDRIDGE WHICH IT IS A TRAIL THAT TAKES RESIDENTS DOWN TO THE MINNESOTA RIVER VALLEY AND WHICH IS A GREAT AMENITY FOR US AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT CONNECTS US TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS TO THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR AND OTHER PLACES. JUST LOVE THAT YOU'RE THINKG ABOUT HOW DO WE CONNECT PEOPLE TO TO BUT THEN ALSO I REALLY LOVE THE IDEA OF WHERE CAN WE PUT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES IN ? I DON'T THINK THEY COVERED THAT IN OUR STUDY SESSION AS MUCH SO I APPRECIATED THAT IT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS ONE THE 96TH STREET PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE REALLY IS AN INTEREST OF ME. I KNOW THE END OF IT WOULD BE WHERE VEEP IS LOCATED WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GREAT SPACE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING AND LIVING IN THIS AREA WE WANT TOAKE THAT AS ACCESSIBLE AS WE CAN TO THEM SO OVERALL I THINK IT'S BEEN GREAT. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN FUN TO SEE THIS CORRIDOR PLAN TAKE SHAPE OVER THE LAST YEAR AND I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT IT TONIGHT. THANK COMMISSIONER GROSSMAN. I TOO AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS OF THIS PLAN WE'VE SEEN THIS A FEW TIMES AND I LIKE THE WAY IT'S DEVELOPED IN PARTICULAR PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THE LAST SLIDE THAT WAS SHOWN ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OR SKYWAY OVER 98TH STREET CONNECTING TO THE TRANSIT STATION IS A FORMER DAILY USER OF THAT TRANSITION I KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE COME ACROSS THAT INTERSECTION AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON PAPER YOU SAY JESUS THE SIDEWALK LIKE NOT THAT FAR AWAY BUT THE TEMPTATION TO CROSS IT IS VERY REAL FOR FOLKS AND I SAW IT ALL THE TIME AND IT WAS DANGEROUS AND I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OF THAT IN THE PLAN AND HOPEFULLY DEVELOPED AS THIS AS THIS CORRIDOR DEVELOPS AND SO SUPPORTIVE OF THAT STRONGLY I SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLAN AND WE'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF IT THIS EVENING FOR THE COMMENTS AS ROBERT THANK YOU CHAIR I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT AND INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THIS MOVES FORWARD. I DRIVE THIS INTERSECTION AND I'M IMPRESSED THAT COMMISSIONER GROSSMAN EVEN TRIED TO BIKE THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE I DO NOT FEEL INCREDIBLY SAFE WALKING IN THAT AREA LET ALONE BEING ON A BIKE. SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IMPROVEMENT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GET PLACES IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND THIS MEETS THAT AND ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER YOU REMINDED ME I'VE BEEN VUNTEING AT VEEP RECENTLY THE LAST COUPLE TIMES THEY HAVE JUST DRIVE UP SERVICE. WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP ON A BIKE AND SO THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO GET TO THAT PLACE FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS VEEP SERVES IS IMPORTANT AND IN DIFFERENT WAYS OTHER THAN JUST DRIVING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE'RE SEEING THAT SO I'M IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR THEIR COMMENTS OR I'D ALSO ENTERTA A MOTION MR. GOOLSBEE THANK YOU. CHAIR YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON AS WE WERE TALKING THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND IN OVER TO THE TRANSIT LOCATION OVER 98TH AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW IN A PREVIOUS THAT THIS COUNCIL ACTUALLY DENIED WAS DEVELOPMENT ON THE 35 W 98TH STREET CURRENTLY CLOVER LOCATION AND SO I WOULD JUST KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS AS WE START TO SEE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS IN FRONT OF US WE HAVE THIS PLAN THAT IS BEFORE US THAT STARTING TO SHAPE WHAT DO WE WHAT DO WE SEE AND HOW DO WE ENVISION THIS AREA TO LOOK LIKE? AND SO AS WE SEE DEVELOPMENTS COMING TO US WE CAN GIVE IT THAT LET THIS TEST OF DOES THAT MEET WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR A LONG TERM PROPOSAL IN THE FUTURE FOR TRANSIT. SO IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THEY KD OF ALL INTERTWINE AND I JUST WANTED TO VOICE THAT AS A AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GOOLSBEE. THANK YOU. IF STAFF COULD BRING UP THE PROPOSED THERE MAY NOT BE ONE BUT IN OUR PACKAGE THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE THAT MAY HELP YOU. OH PERFECT. IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION PLEASE. THIS SORRY IS JUST THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. I RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT TO THE 98TH STREET INTERCHANGE AND CORRIDOR STUDY AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THIS INTERCHANGE STUDY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSED THAT MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD AS A PUBLIC HEARING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 28TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE NOT DONE YET. FOUR MORE ITEMS TO GO WHICH WE ARE LINE NOW FOR FOR STUDY ITEMS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THIS EVENING ARE OVER. OUR FIRST STUDY ITEM ITEM NUMBER FOUR AGAIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE PRESENTER HERE AND WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REVIEW WE DO ONCE A YEAR. MR. MARK GERHARDT WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR CAPTAIN COMMISSIONERS SO YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE ACTUALLY SAY THAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW THEM ONCE A YEAR AND THEY EVEN SAY THAT THEY NEED TO BE ADOPTED ONCE A YEAR. SO AFTER OUR REVIEW WE CAN DO THAT TO THIS LANGUAGE ON THE SCREEN IS ACTUALLY RIGHT OUT OF THE RULES THAT SAYS THAT EACH ANNUAL REVIEW MUST INCLUDE DISCUSSION BY THE COMMISSION REGARDING EXPERT CONTACTS AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. SO IT'S VERY PRESCRIPTIVE SO I'LL DO THAT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO SECTIONS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION ON THE RULES OR ANY SECTIONS AND THEN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE TO THE RULES WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME. SO FIRST OF ALL REGARDING EXPERT CONTACTS THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND READ THAT AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT. BUT IT SAYS EXPERT CONTACTS ARE COMMUNICATIONS FROM APPLICANTS. WE'RE INTERESTED PARTIES OR INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH COMMISSIONERS OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC RECORD IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING OUR COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON AN APPLICATION WITHIN THE PUBLIC RECORD TO AVOID THE PERCEPTION OF UNDUE INFLUENCE EXPERT DAY CONTEXT ON MATTERS BEFORE THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE AVOIDED WHEN EXPERT CONTACTS OCCUR THEY SHOULD BE DISCLOSED PRIOR THE COMMISSION'S DISCUSSION OF A GIVEN ITEM SO COUPLE OF THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT HERE. ONE IS THAT IT SHOULD BE AVOIDED IT'S NOT MUST THAT'S RECEIVED A LOT OF DISCUSSION BY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN THE PAST SO IT'S NOT AGAIN A MUST BUT STRONGLY RECOMMENDED BY THE RULES TO AVOID THAT DISCLOSURE AS AN ISSUE. BUT REALLY THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS IS TRANSPARENCY AND IF ONE MEMBER OF THE IS SHARING INFORMATION THAT'S INFORMATION THAT'S PROBABLY A VALUE TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S PROBABLY BEST DONE IN A WAY THAT IS TRANSPARENT AND EVERYBODY CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE ROLE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS IMPOSED UPON THEMSELVES ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS AND EXPERT CONTACTS. MR. MERCURY WE TALK ABOUT DISCLOSING THAT WHAT'S THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT IS AN EMAIL TO YOU YOU'RE COOKED IN WHAT THAT WOULD INVOLVE TYPICALLY IS AS AN ITEM COMES UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND AT THE START OF THAT ITEM. COMMISSIONER MIGHT SAY EITHER AT THE BEGINNING OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION A PORTION THE MEETING THAT THEY JUST WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT THEY'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY A PARTY MAYBE IT'S A NEIGHBOR OR MAYBE IT'S THE DEVELOPER OR APPLICANT AND THAT THEY'VE DISCUSSED THE ITEM WITH A PERSON AND THEN IS THERE ANY KEY INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE SHARED FROM THAT DISCUSSION OR NOT? BUT IT'S JUST RECOGNIZING THAT THAT HAS OCCURRED AND MAYBE THERE WOULD BE QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. FROM THAT CONVERSATION, DID YOU LEARN ANY INFORMATION WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON EXPERT CONTACTS? OKAY. ALLIGHT. MOVE ON TO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. I'LL READ THE SECTION AGAIN. IT SAYS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ARISE FROM ANY ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL BENEFITS THAT A COMMISSIONER SPOUSE FAMILY MEMBER OR PERSON LIVING IN THEIR HOUSEHOLD MIGHT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY OBTAIN FROM A PLANNING DECISION. COMMISSIONER MAY CONSULT WITH THE PLANNING MANAGERS CITY ATTORNEY TO DETERMINE WHETHER AN ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST EXISTS. COMMISSIONERS SHALL DISCLOSE ANY CONFLICTS OF IN THE MATTER BEFORE THE COMMISSION SHALL ABSTAIN COMPLETELY FROM DIRECTOR PARTICIPATION IN ANY MATTER IN WHICH THEY HAVE A CONFCT OF INTEREST AND SHALL LEAVE ANY CHAMBER IN WHICH SUCH A MATTER IS UNDER DELIBERATION. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE COMMISSION'S BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT FOLLOWING AND THE WORDING OF THIS CONFLICT OF INTEREST SECTION IN THE RULES ACTUALLY A LITTLE STRICTER THAN STATE STATUTE OR CITY CODE . THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BUT THERE'S SOME NUANCE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT BUT YEAH WE FREQUENTLY HAVE MEMBERS THAT ABSTAIN AND ALWAYS YOU KNOW, LEAVE THE CHAMBERS DURING THAT DISCUSSION ITEM. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON CONFLICTS OF INTEREST KNOW FOR OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS IF THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS WE DO HAVE A SPOT IN THE BACK HERE. THE IDEA IS WE DON'T WANT FACIAL EXPRESSIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAYNFLUCE OTHER FOLKS DECISIONS. SO THAT'S SORT OF OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. OUR RULES OF THUMB ARE THAT IF YOU FORESEE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AN UPCOMING ITEM WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE AGENDA IT'S BEST TO ALERT THE PLANNING MANAGER MR. MARKET OCCURRED AND ALSO THE CHAIR THAT YOU WILL HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND WE'LL BE ABSTAINING FROM THAT ITEM THE CHAIR MAY FORGET AND SO AS THAT ITEM BEGINS FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT AT THAT TIME RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE ITEM IN THE BACK UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ITEM AND COMACK IN AND JOIN THE REST OF THE MEETING. ANY QUESTIONS OR OTHER COMMENTS ON CONFLICTS OF INTEREST SEEN? ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL TO THE NEXT STAGE OF THE DISCUSSION WHICH IS SIMPLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON ANY OTHER SECTIONS AND THEN AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROPOSE ANY AMENDMENTS THIS YEAR. MR. BERGER HAD SOME FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL BUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS I DIDN'T SEE ANY UPDATES TO THE RULES THIS YEAR IS THAT CORRECT? CHAIR CAPTAIN THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS YET BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO SO TONIGHT. MAYBE WE'LL START THERE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE'S A CHANCE TO REVIEW THESE. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY THINK THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A CHANGE TO SEEING NONE? I WILL THEN ASK DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON OTHER SECTIONS THINGS YOU'VE NOTED OR WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR POTENTIALLY OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS WERE OLDER COMMISSIONERS OF THE LIKE. I AM NOT SEEING ANY DISCUSSION THERE EITHER. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU AND WOULD REQUEST A MOTION SIMPLY TO ADOPT THE RULES PROCEDURE. THANK YOU, MR. BERGER FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I'LL ASK FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION LOOK FOR A MOTION MOTION. COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN I MOVED TO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE WITH NO AMENDMENTS. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE WITH NO AMENDMENTS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY. I OPPOSED THAT THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU, MR. MERCATOR. WE ARE A TOUCH OUT OF ORDER HERE FROM THE PUBLISHER AGENDA BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE DRAFT MEETING MINUTES FROM BOTH JUNE 8TH AND JUNE 22ND AND I'M GOING T ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK ON THIS ESPECIALLY WITH NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF FOLKS TO MOVE THESE FORWARD . BUT ALL RIGHT. SO JUNE IS PRESENT COMMISSIONERS WERE COMMISSIONERS GOLDMAN ALBRECHT OF THE HIGH COMMISSIONER COOKTOWN AND COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN. WE HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE HERE SO I THINK WE BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROV THERAFT MINUTES OF JUNE 8TH DURING THE PROOF WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND MOTION IN A SECOND FOR JUNE 8TH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR THOSE IN FAVOR SAY LET ME CLARIFY BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE SOME OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS WERE NOT IN ATTENDANCE ON THAT ITEM SO YOU MAY CHOOSE TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS ITEM. SO I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION OF APPROVAL OF EXCUSE ME A VOTE OF APPROVAL A VOTE OF DENIAL AND A VOTE OF ABSTENTION. SO FOR JUNE EIGHT WE'LL START WITH ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I ,I ALL THOSE IN AGAINST SAY AND ALL THOSE ABSTAINING SAY I OKAY. WE HAVE TWO ABSTENTIONS AND FOUR VOTES OF APPROVAL FOR JUNE 8TH. WE WILL MOVE NOW TO JUNE 22ND. PRESENT COMMISSIONERS WERE ROHMAN ALBRECHT AND COOK TIME SO WE HAVE TWO OF THE FOUR WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD QUALIFY AS ENOUGH TO VOTE. MR. MCCOURT YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT RULES TALK ABOUT A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS PRESENT AT THE MEETING AS I WAS LIKE YOU HAVE THERE WERE FOUR PRESENT AND TWO OF THEM ARE HERE. MM YEAH GOOD QUESTION. I DO SEE MR. KOTECKI ON THE LINE IF IF HE CHOSE TO WEIGH IN IF NOT HE COULD ALSO CONSIDER HOLDING THIS OVER MR. TOSCHI EITHER I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK THE RULES IF GLEN MIGHT HAVE TO. YEAH, WITH THE WAY HE WAS WORKING THAT WITH THE WAY HE WAS WORKING THE GUYS I HAVE CONFIDENCE HE CAN PULL THIS TOGETHER QUICKLY . ITEM 1.6 TALKS ABOUT QUORUM AND NOTES AN EXCEPTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES . JUST MINUTES MAY BE ACTED UPON BY A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT AT A GIVEN MEETING . THAT'S 50%. YEAH SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO NOT HAVE A MAJORY. WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL A MAJORITY IN THE FUTURE WE DO SO I THINK WE CONTINUE THAT. OKAY I LOOK FOR A MOTION OF CONTINUATION. I AM MOVED TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT IS THERE A SECOND SECOND GAY MOTION IN A SECOND FOR CONTINUATION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A CONTINUATION SAY I I AND MOTION AGAINST EXCUSE ME A VOTE OF AGAINST HEARING NONE WE WILL WAIT ON THAT ITEM UNTIL WE HAVE A MAJORITY OF COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SIX NOW ANOTHER STUDY ITEM FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATE. THIS IS OUR WEEKLY CHECK IN WITH THE PLANNING MANAGER MR. MARK IN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS TO DISCUSS ITEMS THAT WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING SO MR. MARK ECKERT COMMISSIONERS A OF BUSY AGENDAS COMING UP ON AUGUST FIRST SO ITEMS WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DAYCARE IN AN EXISTING PLACE OF ASSEMBLY THAT'S 8600 BLOOMINGTON AVENUE SOUTH. WE ALSO HAVE A PROPOSAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR A NEW OFFICE BUILDING WHICH IS VERY RARE THESE DAYS A NEW OFFICE BUILDING THAT IS ON THE TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS. IT'S PHASE TWO OF THAT PROJECT 144,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING 8050 WINSTON WAY IS THE ADDRESS AND THEN WE HAVE A MAJOR REVISION THE FINAL SET BUILDING PLANS FOR AN EXPANSION OF ABOUT 4000 SQUARE FEET A TWO STORY ADDITION IN SUPPORT OF A CONVERSION OF AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING INTO A RETAIL FACILITY AND THAT'S A 2740 AMERICAN BOULEVARD WEST AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON THE 31ST. AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD EVEN FURTHER SEPTEMBER 14TH, ANOTHER FULL AGENDA THE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR A DAYCARE ALSO AN EXISTING PLACE OF ASSEMBLY. THIS ONE 8932 OLD CEDAR AVENUE AND WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR INDOOR RECREATION AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY AND A RESTAURANT AT 77 CREEK RIDGE CIRCLE AND THEN TWO MAJOR TRANSPORTATION ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND. THEN SECONDLY, A STUDY DISCUSSION WHI WOU BE AN ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND THE TRANSPORTATION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON UPCOMING AGENDAS. THANK YOU MR. MARKERT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS TO DISCUSS ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA. COMMISSIONER GOTTESMAN THANK YOU CHAIR JUST TO CONFIRM FOR THE SEPTEMBER 14TH THE LOCATION OF THE SECOND ITEM IS 7807 CREEK RIDGE CIRCLE 7807 RED CIRCLE CORRECT. WHERE IS RIDGE CIRCLE. YES. SO CREEK CIRCLE IS OFF OF WEST 78TH STREET NORTH OF 494 AND FOUR WESTERN BLOOMINGTON. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SEEING NONE THAT CLOSES ITEM NUMBER SIX WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM THIS EVENING. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE ELECTIONF PLNING COMMISON OFFICERS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO EVERY YEAR TO DETERMINE THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR AND ALSO OUR SECRETARY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MR. BERGER, DO YOU HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ON THIS? SURE. COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD TAKE THREE SEPARATE VOTES. THE FIRST TWO ARE BY SECRET BALLOT. THE FIRST ONE WILL BE ELECTING THE CHAIR. THE SUSPECT WILL PASS OUT BALLOTS A JUST CHECK WHO YOU WANT TO SERVE AS CHAIR ON THE BALLOT FOLDED UP. AND THEN AS YOU ALSO COLLECT THE BALLOTS, WE WILL THEN COUNT THE VOTES IF THERE'S A MAJORITY FOR ONE PERSON. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED IF THERE'S NOT A MAJORITY. WE MAY NEED A SECOND ROUND OF VOTES IF IT'S A TIE VOTE. THEN THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR A CONTINUANCE BUT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION VERY AGAIN THIS FIRST VOTE IS FOR CHAIR. THAT'S CORRECT . IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN DECORATED . YES. DO W GET I VOTED STICKERS THAT SAY WE MUST HAVE SOME IN A CLOSET HERE AT CITY HALL WHICH THESE ARE SRET BALLOTS AND I HAVE AN ORANGE PEN SO I'M GOING TO ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO NOT STARE AT THE SECRECY OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS PAGE ROHMAN HAS BEEN ELECTED TO SERVE AS FOR THE NEXT YEAR. CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER ROHMAN WHO IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING BUT WE'LL LOOK FOR DESCRIPTION. WE WILL NOW VOTE FOR VICE CHAIR IN THE SAME MANNER AS EVERYBODY WHO WOULD BE ELIGIBLE EXCEPT FOR PAGE ROHMAN THREE TWO. YES SIR. COMMISSIONERS WE DO HAVE A MAJORITY ON THIS ROUND OF BALLOTS. THREE COMMISSIONERS RECEIVED VOTES. WE HAVE THREE VOTES FOR PHIL. TWO VOTES FOR AUBREY ALBRECHT AND ONE FOR JOANNA AND GOLTZMAN. SO TO YOU BUT WE COULD REMOVE THE LOWEST VOTE GETTER AND REVOTE. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES. THEY REMOVE THE CANDIDATES WITH ZERO OR ONE VOTE AND THEN IT IS VOTED UPON FROM THERE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? IT'S IT'S YOUR CALL. BUT I I SEEOME NODDING HEADS WILL FOLLOW SUIT. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL REMOVE THE CANDIDATES WHO RECEIVED ZERO OR ONE VOTE AND VOTE AGAIN BETWEEN THOSE WHO HAD MORE THAN THAT. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE COMMISSIONERS AND COMMISSIONER COOKTOWN. CORRECT. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SOME EXTRA BALLOTS IN THE IN WAITING HERE AND PLEASE THIS TIME ONLY VOTE FOR HIGH COMMISSIONER COOKTOWN OR COMMISSIONER OF IT . I'M SURE WE ALL THOUGHT THE TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE THE MOST ANTICIPATED ITEM OF THE EVENING BUT LOOK AT US. IF I MAY CHAIR PLEASE CHARTER COMMISSIONER ROHMAN I YOU'RE LISTENING, WE'LL SEE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU MAY BE ON SOME FORM OF WATERCRAFT AT THIS HOUR SO WE'LL SEE IF HE GETS CELLULAR SERVICE OUT ON THE LAKE. MR. MCCANN COMMISSIONERS, WE DO HAVE A MAJORITY IN THIS ROUND FOR PHIL CURTIN FOR VICE-CHAIR. VERY WELL. SO THERE IS AN APPOINTMENT OFOMMISSIONER ROHMAN FOR CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER COOKTOWN FOR VICE-CHAIR. A FINAL ITEM OF BUSINESS IS SECRETARIES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED A DUAL APPOINTMENT DURLING NAVARRO AND EMILY HABSBURG AS THE ACTING CHAIR. I WILL HOW DO I SAY I WILL MOVE THAT MOVE? I WANT TO APPOINT THEM AS THE DUAL DUAL SECRETARIES THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'LL ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE OF APPROVAL OF THAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A DUAL RECOMMENTION OF DURLING NAVARRO AND WE SPEAK AS PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY SAY I I ANY OPPOSITION. I HEREBY APPOINT DURLING NAVARRO AND EMILY HABSBURG AS THE DUAL SECRETARIES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THEM AND ALL OF OUR CITY STAFF FOR THE HARD WORK THEY DO. THEY'RE UNSUNG HEROES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WELL WHAT WE DO WITHOUT THEM. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THAT INCLUDE CONCLUDES ALL SEVEN ITEMS OF THIS AUGUST 17TH MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. GOOD NIGHT