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[music] [music] [music] ladies and gentlemen. >> Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the regular meeting of the city of Irving for November 6, 2025. It's a pleasure to have each and every one of you with us. Uh Chené, do we have uh service announcements? No sir. >> Okay. Then if you would please stand. The invitation this evening will be given by one of the house of God open sky. Good evening mayor. Good evening councilman. Heavenly Fa Father, we thank you for the opportunity that you give us to be here tonight to meet to discuss the matters of this uh city of Urban. We ask you tonight that your blessing and your wisdom, your knowledge and understanding be upon us so we can uh attend whatever is your will. And so as it is in heaven, your will can be done here on earth in the city of Ilman especially. We ask you that we can have the righteousness, the justice, and the understanding to take the decisions, the right decisions, so we can move ahead with every plan, every project that is done here tonight. We ask you and we pray for every family of the city of Urban. We pray for every service member of the city of Urban that you may protect them, that you may bless them, and that you may guide them in everything that they have. Please open the heavens on this city. Please uh pour blessings, rains of blessings of this city and let your will be fulfilled, your peace and your light shine upon this city. We ask you that your holy spirit could be uh breed upon this city and life and prosperous uh city can be rise up in the middle here on North Texas. Thank you tonight and we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. >> Thank you. If you please remain standing, Mayor Prom Chrono will lead us in the pledges. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Under the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. At this time, I if I could get the judges to join me up front here. I have a proclamation. >> [clears throat] >> Judge, >> how are you, sir? >> You got your staff here? Yes. and get the staff to come up and join us as well. You all doing okay tonight? >> How are you? >> Good to see you again. So this is our courts. This our judges and the people that work in the court system. We're very fortunate to have these fine people that work for us. We have a proclamation this evening. Whereas the municipal courts plays a vital role in preserving public safety, protecting the quality of life for residents, and deferring future criminal behavior. And whereas because area residents encounter municipal courts more often than any other type of court, their experience in municipal court plays a large part in influencing the public's impression of the Texas judicial system. And whereas the Irving Municipal Court provides a form where questions of law and fact can be resolved regarding allegations, violations of the state uh law and the municipal ordinances. And whereas Irving's Municipal Court is staffed by judges, clerks, prosecutors, city marshalss, and other court personnel who are dedicated to the impartial and fair administration of justice and exhib exhibit exemplary and professional in striving to improve court operations. And whereas the Texas legislature recognized the importance of municipal courts during the 88th legislative in-house current resolution 75 signed by into law by Governor Abbott on June 9th, 2023 designating the first week of November as municipal courts week. Now therefore, I, Rick Stover, mayor of the city of Irving and the Irving City Council, do hereby proclaim November 3rd through the 7th, 2025 as Municipal Courts Week in Irving, Texas. [applause] Thank you so much, Mayor, and thank you to our council and our residents. We are so proud to serve the city of Irving and the team that you see behind me, our prosecutors, our clerks, our judiciary, they strive to treat everybody with dignity and respect every time they come into the courtroom doors. And so we appreciate the opportunity to be here and we appreciate that we're a able to celebrate our team. Thank you. [applause] Here we go. One, two, three. Byebye. [laughter] >> Thank you. Cool. >> Next, we're next we're going to be hiring our graduates from our 360 course. something we started several years ago so that people really understand what goes on in the city is our 360 course. It's a bunch of weeks where everybody comes together once a week and they learn about our our landfill. They learn about our jail. They learn about our convention and visitors bureau. They learn about our police and our fire. They get to shoot a gun. They get to drive on the racetracks. They they get to do all kinds of fun things. So they they have lived through all this and so they're here tonight. So we're going to honor them for their for their work. Bring that down a little. Okay. Good evening, mayor and council. My name is Gabriella Garza and I am a senior management analyst in the innovation and performance office and also the program manager for Irving 360. Tonight, it is my honor and privilege to recognize those who are graduating from our 2025 Irving 360 program. So to elaborate a little bit more on what the mayor spoke about, um it is Irving 36060 is a civic education and engagement opportunity for those who live or work in Irving. It is a very competitive application process. This year we had well over a 100 applicants vying for 25 spots. Um so in fact actually a number of our graduates here today applied multiple times and to participate has not gone unnoticed. So, um, those that are selected to be part of the Irving 360 Academy get to go through an 11week course in the fall where they get to learn behind the scenes about what our departments do. They get to go to different city facilities. They get to tour the facilities. They get to learn about all the ins and outs of Irving. Um, for many participants, Irving 360 is actually their introduction on engaging with the city. So, like past academy graduates, we do encourage our 2025 cohort to continue their involvement. So, this may look like serving on a board, participating in a committee, or even taking the next step to join our Irving Ambassadors program. Um, after spending these past 11 weeks with this cohort, I can confidently say that our community is made better through their contributions and their engagements, and I am personally excited to see how they continue to shape the future of Irving. So without further ado, we're going to recognize our graduates. First up, we have Alejandro Ruiz, >> Andrew Denny [applause] Dr. Angela Coington, [applause] Anetia and Tia Abang. Brad Woods, [applause] Brenda Ble. Evening, Brenton Bridges, [applause] >> Jessica Kroski, Gregory Pimementel [applause] J. Praash Cheravda [applause] Jessica Munoz Lopez, Carla Hester Kimberly Black, [applause] Ma Sanchez [applause] Muhammad Harris, [applause] Muhammad Akbar. >> [applause] >> Nancy Gusman. [applause] Rachel Harold receiving on behalf of her husband, Philip Herald. Ramisa Farooq, [applause] Safi Malik >> [applause] >> Yes. >> Victoria Apostol. [applause] I also want to take a moment to acknowledge our graduates that couldn't be here with us this evening, Anita Moreno and Raven Stevens. For yes, [applause] for anyone in the audience who's interested in participating in our next academy, be on the lookout for something in the summer in your city spectrum. Thank you. Come back. We can [clears throat] have three devils. Yeah, >> [clears throat] >> Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Okay, the next item on our agenda is uh public comments. Chana, uh would you uh call off the names of the residents who would like to speak to us? >> Yes, sir. Public comments provides the opportunity to our citizens to address the council on items that are not listed on the regular agenda. The council will listen, but they will not respond as they are restricted from deliberation by the Texas Open Meeting Act. While the mayor and council may not respond, you are welcome to contact them directly. Their phone numbers and emails are listed on the website and a meeting can be requested. If your comments require a response, the followup will be handled by the communications team. Each speakerle each speaker will be limited to three minutes. I will let you know when one minute is left. Please state your name and address prior to comments. A professional presentation is requested. Any handouts you wish to provide to the council members should be given to the police officers on either side of the chamber. Please do not approach the dis. Our first speaker and no we don't have any open seats. All right. Our first speaker is Rhonda Oliver and on base is going to be Molly Mlot Jesus. Good evening. My name is Rhonda Oliver and my address is 1012 Sherry Lane, Irving, Texas 75060. I want to talk to you about the house at 3200 Gail Court, which is diagonally across the street from me. Since purchased in February 2025, this house has been converted from a four bedroomedroom home to a 9-bedroom shortterm rental property. Interior walls were added to increase the number of bedrooms with each bedroom door secured by an electronic lock. This was being done without pro proper permits causing investigations by code enforcement and the permits department managed by padsplit and online platform. These bedrooms are being rented to individual persons either weekly or monthly as advertised on several websites. This conversion goes against the zoning regulations in my district, single family dis residential 6. As adopted by the city council this year, a single family detached dwelling is defined as quote an enclosed building having accommodations for and occupied by one family end quote. This house is not being rented to one family. It is being rented to as many as nine separate unknown individual persons at any given time, changing weekly. As concerned neighbors, we want our property value. We don't want our property values to go down. And now we have a safety issue. On October 19th, 2025, police and EMT arrived. Police said that the people in the house smelled an odor. The property man maintenance man came out and they discovered a dead body in the house and that there was blood everywhere. This cannot continue. We are asking you, the city council members, to stop this property from continuing to operate as a multi-unit rental property. >> It should be converted back to a one family home as defined in the city of Irving zoning regulations. We are hardworking homeowners and have sacrificed to buy homes in this neighborhood. If this owner investor gets away with skirting around the zoning regulations, then what will stop other investors from doing the same thing? You may say this is only one house, but what would you say if this house was across the street from you? >> Thank you, Miss Oliver. [applause] Miss Oliver, thank you so much for coming down back behind you. Shane, if you please raise your hand. Shane is our code enforcement director. I'd like to have him, if you have a few moments, get with you right now and continue to follow up on your conversation. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Our next speaker is Molly Mamel followed by Kim Black. Thank you for this opportunity to share about child safety in light of recent laws. I am Molly Mockamel living at a protected address in South Irving. Upon reviewing the core values of access, equity, intellectual freedom, and privacy, public good, and sustainability listed by the American Library Association or ALA, I came upon words and phrases used together. For access, the phrase obtaining resources and services with minimal disruption was used. Access, according to the ALA, is best without disruption. For equity, the phrase fostering equity by actively working to dismantle barriers and create spaces that are accessible, welcoming, and beneficial was used. How interesting that beneficial and dismantling barriers were both considered together. Even among the core values, intellectual freedom and privacy did not occur without the other core values imploring beneficial, welcoming, barrier-free environments without disruption. similar to ethical principles in my mental health profession that are never considered in isolation from the others. The same is true for these core values, even if one is more predominant. Previously, I shared the dangers of explicit and pornographic materials. I explained how in accordance with the laws for children, ratings can serve as beneficial, welcoming, and for the good of children and adults. I used an illustration with words to promote safe libraries for children as opposed to dangerous environments by making a comparison to slippery floors that guests are forced to manage. I encouraged a safe place. While ratings and other control limit access to dangerous content, they do not go against core values to have freedom and less barriers since the ALA core values must consider what is beneficial for learning. Now I apply the same fervor to addressing the concern of literature supporting excuse me reported to sensationalize polygamy. That literature was forced on children still learning to make healthy decisions. The ratings implored in the last meeting would serve as beneficial with this content. Parental controls and limits implored by others also work well. That could include removal. I recall a father in tears struggling with the dangerous disguised form of polygamy. he was forced to consider to merely stay faithful to the one wife he originally chose before another was forced on him by his wife. And tears he said the dangers I was required by law to share. He knew from experience why the US and the state of Texas have laws against polygamy even disguised forms. Among dangers listed by Psychology Today, Institute for Family Studies and HIM are these. Domination, control, psychological trauma, confusion, mental and emotional instability, division, lower self-esteem, jealousy, anxiety, depression, hostility, social unrest, and greater dissatisfaction with higher risk of negative outcomes to children. Why would the pure water of truth be replaced in our libraries with something sensationalizing an illegal practice that goes against the core values when combining all of them? How sad it would be for people to find more true health information in markets, on labels, and on bottles than in the books available in libraries for children. Bless you. God bless you. [applause] Kimberly Black followed by Emma Petty. Kim Black, 1625 Fair Court, Irving, Texas 75060. I have exciting news for the city council tonight and the citizens of Irving. Books don't make you gay. I know. It's amazing. Books don't make you gay. Neither do movies. Neither do TV shows. Your kid is either gay or they're not gay. It's awesome. So, you can relax. We've been hearing a lot in city council meetings about the evils of pornographic books in the library. In fact, the Families for Irving Pack started because a small segment of the population of Irving wants to control everyone's book choices. The Families for Irving Pack wishes to take over our city council with the goal of controlling who is placed on city boards like the library board and the arts board so that they can censor the culture of Irving so that they can control for everyone the choices for all. This group would have you believe that these books in the library are available to 5-year-olds and harm children on a daily basis. But here's some actual facts. Thanks to the internet, Gen Z is the most educated generation about sex. While amazingly, they have the least sex of any generation in recent decades. I know. Isn't it amazing? The more educated you are about something, the wiser choices you make on that subject. It's awesome. some experts. Oh, sorry. From 1991 to 2021, high schoolers that reported not having sex rose from 46% to 70%. Also, Gen Z is great with consent. They understand it. They do it. In the 80s, when I was a teenager, I'm not even sure consent existed. Compared to previous generations, they have less sex, less teen pregnancy, and lower rates of teen abortion. Some experts even site that the prevalence of pornography online keeps teens from having sex with actual partners for longer. [clears throat] Just saying. But all experts agree and their rest research illustrates that access to comprehensive sex education causes young people to delay sexual activity. Uh besides that, I'd also like to make a quick comment about resolution 29. Six hostages remain in Gaza out of the 251 that were abducted. 1,139 people were killed in the Hamas attack. As of last week, Israel was continuing to bomb Palestinians in Gaza. As of now, 68,875 pal Palestinians have been murdered in Gaza with another thousand in the West Bank. It's estimated that 20,000 children are among the murdered. 170,600 be seated. All right. Thanks, Okay. >> My name is Emma Petty. I live at 2805 Wells Road. I have a question about food trucks. Are they licensed? Are they registered? Are they regulated? Are they inspected? Do they collect and submit sales tax? What department is overseeing this? If it's code enforcement, that's not going to work because they set up on the weekend and there's no code enforcement on the weekend. I'd just like to have some answers. Thank you, >> Miss Miss Petty. Miss Petty. Miss Petty. Um, is is Wayne here? There's a large C. I'm looking for Wayne. Wayne Schnell. He's coming. Miss Petty, I'd like for you to get with our inspections director, Wayne Schnell. Uh, he'll be He's in the cowboy hat. You can't miss him. If you want to get with him, he'll be able to follow. >> What was the last name? Wayne >> Snell. Sn L L. He's right behind you in the cowboy hat. He'll be happy to follow up with you on your comments. Thank you. Okay, I need y'all to stop clapping. [clears throat] >> It's on. >> I I need y'all to calm down and stop clapping because we have a lot of speakers. Um, that would be very helpful. Douglas Valencia followed by Adrien Ortiz. >> Did you see? >> Okay. Adrien Ortiz, followed by Aaron Perdue. >> Good evening, council. My name is Agent Ortiz. I live on 410 East 6th Street. I'm here to speak about the homelessness issue that is plaguing on the south side of Irving. So in as of this year, encampments on Pioneer have gone up 50% and our local parks have seen the influx of homeless people looking for shelter. The city of Irving up till now has received a total of about $5 million in different G of in different grants such as the home ARP grant and the SGCV grant, some of which went to planning like the shelter on MacArthur which was shut down. After the shelter was shut down, no further planning for a shelter was proposed. quarter week sweeps took their place instead and the problem got moved further south. From the $5 million meant to address the homelessness issue, two million have been pivoted to a domestic violence shelter. This will not target the homeless individuals on Pioneer or the Sentinel Park or the Heritage Park, which I have personally seen. It will only alienate them further and move them down south further. Other people have come out to speak about the homelessness near Main Street. We've got business owners speaking of needles on their ground, smeared feces on their buildings, pan handlers driving away their customers, etc. Why hasn't the city used money allocated by these grants to address this issue? We're currently trying to re revitalize Main Street, but the homeless will continue to remain around and drive away business. So, what was the solution? Targeted enforcement, which continue to shuffle these people around. I ask that the city of Irving not continue to handwave the problem and actually act on it with the millions we have received to address this issue specifically. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Ortiz. >> Thank you so much for coming down. Is Alda here? I'm looking for She's not Okay. Uh, April, would you please follow up with Mr. Ortiz? Mr. Ortiz, April's right there in the back. She'd be happy to follow up with you. We'll have Alda Speck, who is managing our homeless programs get with you. Thank you. >> Aaron Purdue, followed by Tiffany Fullbrook. [clears throat] >> Good evening. Aaron Purdue. I live at 2001 Meadow Lark here in Irving. Uh tonight I'm going to speak about transgenderism and the fact that children are being affected by the books in the library, whether it's about transgenderism or about uh any of the other topics that are being discussed tonight, especially pornography and things that are harmful to our children. Uh we are all affected by what we read or hear on TV or the news. And of course, children are very much affected by this. [clears throat] Trans transgenderism is being promoted in the Irving Libraries. This false information is being taught through books to children from ages toddlers to teens. [clears throat] They are filled with misinformation on where to get hormones and sex reassignment surgeries. These books do not mention the consequences of disrupting a growing young person's normal hormones and life. Uh changes that cannot be undone sometimes. It's interesting that we do not carry any books with the true stories of those who have left the transgender movement because they were so disillusioned with the results. Often children have feelings like, "Oh, I might be a girl today when normally I'm a boy." These will pass as psychologists have told us. Okay. Um these these children realize how flawed their decision was deciding to mutilate their bodies by the hormones and the surgeries. [clears throat] These young people have wished with all their heart that some responsible adult in their life would have told them the consequences of changing a normal boy or girl's body into a deformed attempt at making them the opposite sex. Adults like their parents, medical doctors, and even pastors have sherked their responsibility to tell these children the truth about retaining your normal biological gender, the one God gave you, and how healthy and normal that is, especially with regard to mental health. These irresponsible adults above someone in their life has instead believed the lie, >> one minute left, >> that they were told by experts on transgenderism that if you don't let him or her transition, they will commit suicide. The opposite is true. As I heard at a seminar taught by a psychologist from uh Canada who specializes in treating the mental health of these damaged kids, the truth is that if they're allowed to transition, they will attempt suicide at some future date. Let's inform everyone we know on this, the truth instead of the lie, and prevent the destruction of our children's lives. One way is to remove the transgender books from our Irving libraries. Thank you. Tiffany Hall Brook followed by V Nikki Vicky Norman. >> Sorry, short. Sorry. I'm also addressing the 3200 Gail Court situation. My name is Tiffany Hullbrook. I live at 3217 Gail Court. Mr. Kenosa, we are your district, so I would love your attention. This has become a big problem for the city of Irving, not just Gail Court. This is affecting houses and neighborhoods across our city. I'm a 57year resident of Irving, Texas, being in my house for 21 years. And this is causing me to have such a shake in my foundation of our city. I pray for our city. I have faith in our city, but I'm very shaken because this was allowed by code enforcement to slip through the cracks. The the renovations were filed fraudulently by this couple in your packet. Take this home and read it. We don't I'm not going to go through the whole thing, but I want you to as you read through, would you want this in your neighborhood? Because I don't I don't have a safe feeling in my own home anymore. But this is the face of a destroyer of neighborhoods. They look like an everyday family of four, but they are going around buying houses through the city of Irving and turning them into 9bedroom Motel 6 style properties. We don't know who is in the house. There's no credit checks, so therefore there are probably no background checks. Are we living next door to murderers? Are we living next door to pedophiles? Who are we living next door to? I had an uncle that was murdered in the '9s and those times were much better. This is very frightening frightening for our city. Mr. Kenosa, these are the people of Gail Port. We are asking for the city's help in shutting this property down as well as taking a hard look at is this what we want our city to be remembered for or known for. This is not the Irving I grew up in. This is not the Irving I want to retire in. Thank you. >> Thank you, [applause] >> Vicki. Followed by Jefferson Braa. Good evening, council. Vicky Norman, 10:15 Sleepy Hollow Drive North. I appreciate the uh initiation of this collection modification project. And by the way, um if I were to post any of the contents of these books on um Miss Black's Facebook page, it gets censored. I'm not allowed to post the contents which we put before our children on the Facebook page. It's against community standards. And she's one of the moderators on two of these Facebook pages. So, I appreciate the initi of this project and we've identified about 250 sexually explicit books to minors and this is library staff identifying them. Not my opinion or your opinion, their opinion. But there's hundreds more of inappropriate sexually explicit materials in the YA and youth area of the library. For example, it was talked about today one of the hundreds of similar books in YA which did not meet the criteria of the library director we three by author Marcus Harwood Jordans. The book is about 13-year-old who goes to a month-long summer camp and she develops a romantic feelings for two other girls and they decide to begin a polyamorous relationship. It explores themes of queer joy per the publisher. It is described by Kirkus, a so-called trusted library resource, as a hopeful love story affirming representation for queer polyamorous relationships and a first love story full of sunshine. So the library staff are told to use these trusted resources without thinking, without discretion, without any wisdom, using the what the publishers are publishing. There are no further guidelines by our city or keyword researches. When Jack of Hearts was objected to um these li these same sources, uh we've got biased resources. For instance, um media source owns both Hornbook and School Library Journal. Publisher Weekly shared the editorial director with school library journal and book list is owned and published by the ALA. And Voya allows authors to purchase reviews of their books. So that's not very objective when an author can purchase a review. And Voya also prof has a professional book called Sex in the Library, a guide to sexual content in teen literature. So, we ask for more specific guidelines in the collection for youth and that we use keyword researchers. Um, sex positivity, queer joy, um, polyamory, um, sadism, all of these things that are in these books to children as key words in order to not have these books to children. adults is another thing and we haven't talked against uh how people identify or the diverse diversity in our culture. >> Thank you V. >> Thank you. >> Our final speaker is Jefferson Braga. [applause] >> Hello ladies and gentlemen. Good afternoon, good evening. Name is Jefferson Braa. I'm at 1327 Eain Road, Irving, Texas. Tonight, I'm not here to talk about the naughty books, okay, which I think should be out of the library. Okay, I'm not here to talk about Dart and how I think it's very important to have Dart around because there's a lot of people that use it to and from work and just as a as a level of uh transport in this in the in the city. It should be a it can there's simple things that can be improved, right, around I'm not here to talk about that. Okay, I'm here to talk about Arbor Day, which is coming up on November 8th. All right, here in Irving, we've got tons of trees. Um, but we could use some more. Uh, we have peon groves, we've got figs, we've got, uh, mulberries, we've got a whole bunch of good little patches that we can spread around. And I welcome you, if you have some trees or some seeds left over, bring them out to Arbor Day. It's on um it's it's on here on the green, okay? and um share them around. Put up a little table, put up a little spot with the family. And uh you'll also see our trailer there with some seeds as well. There's another Arbor Day if you're on the other side of town um over in um um Hlett uh sorry um Holam City um North Park. It's on 820 and Denton Road. Okay. It's a big event happening for three days this Arbor Day from uh sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce and they're going to have tons of trees being given away. their their goal was 30,000, but we're not going to get there. We could use some help, but we're um we're looking um we're looking for thousands and thousands of trees to be given around this time of the year and for um uh spring, right? This time right here, trees trees trees are at a prime. And you can also keep them alive with a little greenhouse, mulch a little extra, learn a little bit, and get the family going, sorry, get the family going for spring. And um and yeah, that's really uh that's really what I had. Thank you very much. Come out on Arbor Day. Um check out the Holam City one. It's going to be a big event. You get to park at different parks and you get shuttled in and there's a whole bunch of different businesses giving away things. And I think that's a that's a beautiful thing. I think if the business is around DFW and Irving in particular and then maybe this is the point, you know, where where the city finds its uh its place, you know, its heart is what does it want to do, you know, for the citizens. A lot of people come with complaints or a lot of people comes with come with different feedback and things and how do we actually roll them up and care, you know, about them. That's Irving Cares and a whole bunch of other good organizations. Um, I feel like there's a whole bunch we can do. So, thank you very much. Take care, guys. Have a good night. >> Thank you, Mayor. That completes our public comment. That completes the public comment portion. >> Okay. Thank you, Chenet. Uh, Chris, do we have a city operations update? >> Yes, sir. Okay, the consent agenda is next on the item. It's items 2 through 27. Are there any items the council wish to pull? If there is, please let me know. If not, I'd entertain a motion. >> So move. >> We have a mo a motion in a second. Would you please vote? >> And it passes unanimously. We are going to go to our zoning cases next which are items 31 through 40. At this time, if there's anyone that wishes to speak for or against any of the items on our zoning cases, if you would please stand and be sworn in by the city secretary. >> Should please stand and raise your right hand and I will swear you in. Everybody speaking is standing. All right. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that all statements which you will make tonight to the city council of the city of Irving will be the truth and nothing but the truth? Thank you. You may be seated. >> Okay. Okay. The first zoning case is 2024394 ZC considering it zoning change from HCD NMU Heritage Cross District neighborhood mixed use to SP1 HCD NMU detailed site plan carriage Heritage Crossing District Neighborhood mixed use with variances to the minimum requirements for parking and paving at 309 South Okconor Road. Chen, is the applicant with us? Yes. Sharon Barbosa Crane and Christina Winters Winter Gears. Christina Gears. Winter, I'm sorry. Christina Winters. >> Good evening, Christina. >> Hi. How are you? >> Good. >> Um, this is uh uh it's long ways, honey. Let me just make sure. >> There we go. You got it. She's got it up. All right. So, I bought this property for two reasons. Number one, I sold my business of 35 years and I wanted to have offices that were in Irving in South Irving because I really believe in South Irving and its development. Uh so I want to put my businesses my business offices the revolution of achievement in that building. The second reason is it's a heritage home built in 1919. It is in disarray for the last seven years. Uh Dr. Gilbert had gotten ill for two years and he passed away and it's been empty for five years since then. So, the property has downgraded and I'm a commitment to have this property be a vision, a beacon for the future. Uh, Irving wants to develop the heritage district and so it becomes vibrant. I've always said feet on the street in downtown Irving. We have a train coming into downtown Irving that can bring people from all over. And we really don't need to worry about parking spaces because we want feet on the street. I want this house to be a beacon for the future. I am investing over $300,000 in the outside of the property. Uh as you can see, uh it's almost an acre and it's got a lot of shrubbery debris in the back. We're cleaning all that out. We're digging up the grass, putting in a sprinkling system for the whole area and soding with doa grass. Doa grows in any area under any circumstances. I'm also putting in lighting. I am putting in uh 16 new trees, taking out the dead trees, putting in 30 white yuckas and 27 red yakas, and re uh uh pebbling the driveway uh which was at one point pink quartz, light pink, not bright pink. So, that's going to be dug out and redone. We're removing a lot of trees, having the house repainted, first uh repairing a lot of the wood that has gone again in disarray for a long time and repainting the property and uh replacing the chandelier that has been missing for years. uh that hangs from the front porch. Uh again, if developers see how this house is going to look, I truly believe it's going to inspire other developers to buy properties and develop them like I am with this Gilbert House. It's on the federal registry and the state registry. And my intention is to support your goal of building a city in downtown Irving that people can come to and visit and eventually in 10 years to actually have them come and visit all of the other areas that we have. We have Chinatown. We have Vietnamese town. Uh we have a beautiful temple way in South Irving that can definitely be a draw for uh people to come and tour. I I just have always loved my city. I've lived here 38 years and I'm asking for a variance on parking. Uh, we have a twocar garage and we have a very long driveway. And the three spots, it's just going to be me and my assistant in the house. And I want a variance on the driveway with the pebble um, pink quartz. So, and no ADA because I do not want to ruin the actual property itself. If we did anything like that, it would actually violate the uh heritage um declaration that is posted on the federal registry and the state registry. I appreciate your consideration in granting me these two variances. Thank you. >> Thank you, Christina. Did we have anyone else signed up? Chené? >> No. >> No. >> Okay. Any comments from the council? Al, >> first of all, thank you, Christina, for setting the pace down there because we've needed the kind of support to really develop that part of our heritage district. So, thank you very much and I intend to support you. Thank you, >> David. >> Yeah, thank you, Christina, for helping redevelop the area. What you're doing is great. And I love the gravel driveway. And with all those trees, you might want to grab Jefferson back here and get you some mulch. He knows all about trees. And get some seeds from them, too. But thank you for being here. >> So, does you want to make a motion, David? >> Motion to approve. Al or uh Luis seconds it. Would you please vote? And it passes unanimously. Okay. Okay. Item number 31 is ordinance 20125129 ZC considering a zoning change from R six single family residential 6 to SP2 R six generalized site plan single family residential 6 with variances to the minimum lot width and minimum lot area as required by section 5.3.2 two single family residential lot size compatibility at 9006 King Avenue. Chana, do we have the applicant with us or? >> Yes, we do. Martaza Maha W. >> Hi, good evening everyone. Uh, yes. So, my name is Marta. Uh, I am the applicant. Um, and what I'm asking for is I'm asking for a variance to be able to subdivide my, uh, property that I have. So, uh, just a background. So, currently this is a dead property. I purchased this property about a year ago. Uh, and I'm trying to get uh this property renovated and back on the market and into in a living condition right now. So, this is the surrounding uh so that that's my property in orange and the surrounding uh properties around that. Uh, and as you can see, my property is sort of the odd one out. Uh, it's uh it's a very large property. uh and I'm trying to sort uh make it uniform with all the other properties around it. Uh and I worked with uh the PNZ uh uh uh council uh we went back and forth uh and we have come up with a reasonable compromise that will benefit uh the community. So this is what we have uh compromised on to be able to uh split the pro property in three uh uh three sections and as you can see this basically isn't anything out of the ordinary. Uh it basically becomes uniform with everything that's around it. Uh and this is going to greatly help uh me uh to be able to uh develop on that property uh and also get uh increase the housing for the city of Irving which is a very big positive uh for Irving. Uh so again my ask is for the city to gr grant me the same uh permissions they have granted my neighbors uh to be able to do this >> take part of the 63. >> I'm open to any questions you guys may have. Chen, do we have any other speakers? >> No, sir. >> Any questions? Is that the Is that the number we got when we moved them over? We went took some from 63 and added it to 57 or >> Yes. So, I had a different uh plan, but uh I worked with PNZ and they wanted me to uh increase uh the uh track 2 uh from 55 to 57. Uh and then for the uh number the track one which is the 55 uh it's hard uh for for me to increase the the track because of uh on on track number three there's existing >> the garage. Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. And yes. >> Thank you. Are there any other questions Mark? >> No I appreciate the work you did with the PNZ to uh come to this compromise. I know initially you had a a T-shape in there and having the three parallel lots is a lot better for the future of the of the of the community because you don't know what's going to happen as far as like when these lots get sold later on down the line. The size of these lots, they're all three of them are large and in and of themselves. And then it's uh it's in line with the size of the other lots around there. So, it's a it's a good good way of taking a larger lot and still and dividing it into still very large lots that are very good for single family homes. So, it's I I support the case and I make a motion to approve >> as modified by the PNZ just to be clear about that. >> Adam, did you have a comment? >> I I did. I had a a question. Um the uh the public comment forms the count was two in support and seven in opposition. uh what and those were all from within the 200 foot radius to neighbors. I I was just curious, do we what was the main substance of those uh of the ones in opposition? >> I don't know if if we have that information. >> Uh so I don't know exactly what it was um cuz I I no one's told me uh what the reasons are. I know that um so I have a I have a letter here. This was uh this letter was sent out to by someone to uh everyone in that area and the three things that this letter pointed out was if this was allowed to be done the property value would go down which is not true. It would actually increase the property value. uh the character of the neighbor would go down neighborhood would go down which again is not true because it's they're uniform lots just minds the one ought out if you think about it right >> um and then it would uh strain on the current infrastructure which also the BAPNZ have said that that's not true either so that those are the only thing I could guess would be why people were against this >> okay yeah thank you and um we probably should have brought this up in work session but Um, but just uh because the the neighbors in opposition, I I I appreciate what you're doing in in the character of the lot, but I'm I'm not going to support this case. Thank you. >> So, we have a motion. Do we have a second? >> Uh, Dennis. >> Uh, yeah, [clears throat] I'll I'll second it. Uh, just a couple of comments. You know, uh, I I grew up in Bear Creek. If everybody know anything about Bear Creek, we had very large lots in our community. You go out there now and you look at it, we've got a lot of smaller lots. Um, a lot of times, you know, we hear uh people in our city say, you know, we want more grocery stores, we want more you restaurants, we want more all of this in South Urban, but there's not enough density uh in there to justify that by a lot of people in retailers. So, you know, I'll support it because the more affordable housing, first of all, we can get is better. Number two, for the people that live in South Irving, if you want to get more development, you you you've been blessed for years to have large lots and large lots around you, but you got what you need is not large lots, you need people. And you need people with disposable income moving into your city. And the only way you're going to get that is either you're going to have to do it by multifamily, which that's a bad word in our city, or you're going to have to do it by allowing some of these larger lots to be subdivided into smaller lots so that you can get more people. So for that I will support this case. >> Okay, we have a motion [clears throat] and a second. Would you please vote and it passes unan uh six to three. >> All right. Thank you very much guys. Have a good evening. Item number 33 is ordinance 2025140Z considering a zoning change from SP2 R75 generalized site plan single family residential 7.5 to RZL single family residential zero lot line at 1301 uh Ronnie Drive is the applicant with us >> yes Jose Andrade >> we have any others signed up >> okay thank Good evening. Uh my name is Jose Andrade and um she's my daughter. Uh she's going to be translating for me. >> Okay, then you get 20 minutes to present. >> Um my name is Jennis Andrade and I'm here today with my dad Jose Andrade. Um who lives at 2606 Circus Drive, Irvin, Texas 75062. I'll be translating and presenting on his behalf. We are here to request approval for a reasoning of a property in the city of Irving. The land is currently designated as RS 7.5 which allows for single family residential. Um however, due to the size of the property, we are proposing to reszone and subdivide it into three separate lots each with RZLA designation. um our intention to make better use of the land um while maintaining the existential residential character of the neighborhood. There are already several lots nearby that are similar in size and layout to what we are proposing and which shows that this type of subdivision fits naturally within the area and would also work closely with the city to meet all the requirements. and this will allow um for the community to bring more people. Um we are we appreciate your time and consideration of this request and we're happy to answer any questions you may have. >> Thank you. Are there any questions from the council members? >> Seeing no questions. Are there any motions? >> We have a motion and a second to approve. Would you please vote? And it passes six to three. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Got it. Item number 34 is ordinance 2025183 ZCE considering zoning change from CC community commercial to SP1 ML20 detailed site plan light industrial 20 with outdoor outside storage of trucks and automobiles as a principal use and with the variances to the paving requirement at 2620 East Garwal Road. Good evening. >> Good evening. Mark Cohen, Centerpoint Commercial Properties, 5330 Alpha Road, Dallas, Texas. Um, >> can you please move the microphone closer to you? >> Is that better? >> Yep. Thank you. >> Yes. >> You want me to repeat that? >> Should I repeat that? >> Yes, please. >> Uh, Mark Cohen, Centerpoint Commercial Properties, 5330 Alpha Road, Dallas, Texas. >> [clears throat] >> Uh we are here on behalf of um uh the ownership as well as the uh tenant regarding a property at the southwest corner of Union Bower and Groweiler. Um currently it is a vacant lot and adjacent to multiple truck yards, storage lots and u mechanic shops. Um I've listed the drawing above shows the subject property and then we additionally uh will give you some examples of lots one, two and three. This is just for reference as to where those uh neighboring lots are. Um the applicant has request or we have asked uh to be able to use the property for a truck uh storage but not for large trucks. It's mostly for uh work trucks. Um currently we are we've developed a lot of different properties around the metroplex uh up to 20 retail oriented properties and unfortunately this area is not quite at the point where we can do anything other than what is already in the area and so we have uh we've had a lot of trouble with dumping and maintenance and so we've leased the property at pretty much no cost to Mr. for Hardo and in return for his maintenance of the property and he's able to use his trucks for his demolition company uh to store on it and it is a short-term lease uh and it is a trade-off for us so that we don't have as much issues with the property. So um one of the issues is they're requesting a lot of concrete to be put in. Um, however, uh, on the, uh, on the west of the property is a large, uh, trucky yard as well with, uh, with no real improvements. Uh, it is mostly decomposed granite, uh, or natural surfaces. It doesn't have any actual paving, uh, and it's used for storage. Um, second to the east on the corner is a mechanic shop, mostly unpaved. uh usually a lot of cars stored around on or around the property. And then additionally [clears throat] to the south is a larger uh yard that has uh large 18-wheeler containers uh also unpaved. And so uh as an some of the examples that we were uh given were concerns is that this lot would be used for similar um unfortunately Mr. Harter doesn't have any of those. Um all of the uh trucks are similar to this. their small work trucks. Uh the largest is the dump truck. Uh which is usually on site somewhere where they're trying to do a demolition for another property. Uh so we are asking that the city council approve the um the zoning change to allow for the parking of the trucks u and allow us to go ahead and use the property appropriately. So uh we are able to keep it the way it is at least until the point that that area begins to change and we can actually develop that property. So uh that is where this ends. So, if there's any questions, I'm happy to take any. >> Thank you. Are there any questions of the applicant? Seeing no questions, I'd entertain a motion. >> Motion for approval. >> Second. >> We have a motion in a second. Would you please vote? And it passes six to three. Thank you. Item number 35 is 2025188 CUP considering a conditional use permit to allow automatic car wash in the CC community commercial zone northwest corner of Lynen B. Johnson's Freeway and Home Depot drive. Is the applicant with us this evening? >> Yes. >> Uh good evening. Uh, mayor and counselor. Uh, my name is Andrew Yo. Uh, 6814 Creo Springs Circle, Garland, Texas. I'm here to represent the ownership to for this project. Uh, I'm the super engineer and um, I'm here to answer any question or from the counselor. >> Thank you, Chennana. Do we have others signed up? >> We have others signed up, but I apologize. They do not want to speak. Okay. Would you just one two >> and I'll read them in the record. Michael Booth and uh Gopal right >> and they were four. >> One is four. Both are four. >> Okay. Thank you. Are there any questions? The applicant. Al, >> would you restate your name? And >> uh Andrew Yo, >> are you the owner? I'm the engineer. I represent the owner. >> Okay. I'd like to hear from the owner. >> Uh yes. >> Yes sir. May council me. My name is Gopal Ray. I live on 7500 Summit View Drive, Irving, Texas. >> Sir, if you have any question, I'm ready to answer. >> In talking to you a little bit earlier, you had mentioned you have other uh car washes. Am I correct? >> Yes sir. We are building in Lancaster, Texas, Fornney, Salina, different places. Yes, sir. >> How many are in the immediate area of one? 635. >> Uh sir, we got only one. This is the one we are building right now. >> Okay. >> The first one. >> Thank you. >> Yes, sir. >> Any other questions? The owner or the applicant? Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion. >> Motion to approve. >> We have a motion and a second. Would you please vote? >> And it passes 5 to 4. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. Item number 36 is 2025279 SFP considering a special fence project plan for an 8 foot tall fence within the required side setbacks on a reverse frontage lot at 1614 Arcadia Lane. Is the applicant with us this evening? >> Okay, we had a pretty good discussion on this today. Are there any questions >> of of the applicant? We actually have a motion for approval and a second. So, we'll go ahead and vote. >> Oh, I'm good. >> You're good. Almost. >> Yes. Thank you. So, >> would you please vote? And it passes unanimously. Thank you. Item number 37 is uh 2025311 ZC considering it's only changed from PUDC planned urban development C community commercial community commercial to PUD2 for SP1 RAB planned unit development 2 detailed site plan for the restaurant with attended accessory uses of the sale of I believe it's alcoholic beverages and for the for on premises consump consumption and CC community commercial uses at 660 Walnut Ridge Drive. Is the applicant with us? >> Good evening. >> Good evening. >> Thank you for coming back. >> Thank you for having me back. I appreciate it. >> So, should I start explaining myself [laughter] please? Uh so this uh property of uh mine, ours, me and my wife, uh it used to be a Benigans from 2006 it had a fire. Uh we demolished it and in 2023, sorry, my name is Ravi Godia. I live in 105 Thorncliffe Trail, Irving Valley Ranch, Texas 75063. Sorry about that. Uh and I'm and I've been a proud uh resident of Irving for nearly nearly two decades. Uh coming back to forward uh so the property caught fire. We demolished it. We decided to rebuild it as an outdoor food court. Uh it's one of a kind. Irving does not have anything like this. Uh so it's uh we we approached the city in 2023. uh city was pretty excited about this concept and they gave us a permit to start construction with the approved uh parking lot and the option to build multiple restaurants or multiple uh retail outlets over there. uh they were pretty much aware of that and I'm over here now seeking for for the city council to pre please grant us the uh sale of alcoholic beverages at uh these uh prospect restaurants. >> Okay, thank you very much. Are there any questions of the applicant? Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion. Al >> Hey, can I ask to come down? >> Sure. Josyn, where are you? >> She's coming from the back. [snorts] >> And mayor council, as Jocelyn is walking up, just a reminder, this this item does require supermajority vote because there is more than 20% opposition. Johnson, you explained to us this afternoon and I think it's important that the understanding of the RAB that uh the owner is requesting and also for the sublets that will be other restaurants and I think uh I'm not mistaken it could be as many as six. Right now you're looking at four. Am I correct? Okay, good. So am I correct on that? that once the this is approved then he has the ability then as the sublets that that will then cover the RAB or will they will have to then individually request it? >> No, the RAB covers the entire property. So the legal description is for the whole property. >> Yeah, that's what I wanted to have up. Thank you very much. >> If I may. So these potential four or six tenants, they could be coffee shops, they could be bakeries, they could be restaurants. Uh not everyone is going to choose to go and serve alcohol. I'll give you a few examples. Uh there is a potential tenant uh and they've approached us. They want to do a place uh a Mediterranean place and which with halal meat and things like that, they will definitely not serve alcohol. So, it's their option. So, there's a there's a coffee shop that's interested also again interested. Uh they're not going to serve alcohol. It just gives the tenants an option. If you want to serve alcohol, you're not approved. You this property is zoned. You can serve alcohol, but it's you're not approved. You still have to go through all those steps and hooplas to get approved. I I want I'm glad you're explaining because I remember when you came before us again and I understand that you also work with our people on our planning department to not ask for a variance on parking. Am I correct? >> Yes. I I withdrew that because uh last time uh Councilman John he was hesitant. If I'm not able to convince you, there's no reason to fight it. I've been here very peaceful. Irving's been nothing. The city has been nothing but good to me in any of my projects. I've never had an issue. If you all feel that this was a red flag, okay, I said, "Okay, let's put this red flag down." Uh, I'm not going to [clears throat] say anything. >> I want to thank you for explaining because there was discussion this afternoon that there were going to be six restaurants and you've clarified it and that means that whatever the sublet will be, not necessarily a restaurant, full service restaurant. Am I correct? >> Yes. And these are small p places. These are very small spaces. >> There was one other point is that will be the only walkable area for I guess it's almost what about 800 to 2,000 rooms >> 1,400 close to 1,400 rooms in a less than a quarter mile or 7 minute walking distance. And this actually stands out uh for Irving and that all these business travelers, visitors, family and friends can come and come to this unique concept. Like I said, as to the as far as my knowledge, I don't believe this concept exists in >> Well, I want to thank you for putting it forward and I will be supporting it, but I will lean the mic to you. So my colleague Mark if you have a comment or anybody Mr. >> Mark is next and then David. >> Yeah. So uh I'm in favor of the case it had been Ben against before which serves alcohol. It's as you indicated before there these hotels around there that you'll be providing this dining option for for guests there. Uh and uh in that single roof there had been alcohol sales before. um whether you have um four to six subtenants um serving uh alcohol as restaurants, it's still under one roof, which is what it was there before. It's along uh the corridor of 114. Uh so it it it's not really um next to any residential properties or anything that's going to be a disturbance or anything like that. So in my mind, it's a very easy case. It fits the RAB very well. And so um but David wants to speak too, so I'll let him go ahead and do that. Yeah, thank you for coming back. Uh 100% >> agree with what you're doing. Hope it's very successful. We're also getting that uh road fixed right there by the Walnut Hill. So >> Oh, yeah. That was >> Yeah, it was a little bumpy. So, the city took a look at that. We're fixing that road as well. So, I just want to let you know that and I hope you have a big success success there because those restaurants uh need to be there for those 1400 rooms. >> Thank you. >> So, appreciate you being here. Appreciate it. >> And motion to approve. Second by motion and second. Would you please vote and it passes 7 to two. Thank you sir. >> Thank you so much. Item number 38 is considering a zoning change from R six single family residential 6 to SP2 R six generalized site plan single family residential 6 with variances to the minimum side rear yard setback for the principal building at 1710 Beverly Street. Is the applicant with us? We had a good discussion. Are there any questions of the applicant? We have somebody else here to speak and I don't know if they're with the applicant. Uh Joan Joanne Joan, >> that's for the next case. >> Okay. 39. >> Yes. >> Okay. Sorry about that. He's correct. >> There's no uh Mark motion to approve. >> We have a motion and a second. Would you please vote? and it passes unanimously. Item number 39 is considering a zoning change from SP2 generalized site plan freeway to commercial parking facility uses to SP2 FF FWY generalized site plan freeway freeway with commercial parking facility with buses v and van sales service rental and lease uses and a var variance to the parking setback from adjacent streets 7650 ERS Boulevard. The applicant is with us. >> Good evening, mayor. I'm Mike McGee. I represent the applicant. And good evening, council. Thank you for considering this case. Uh my the applicant is a tenant of the property. Miss Miss Wyn, who is with me here beside me, is the owner of the property. It's currently under an SP zoning. My the tenant in is a businessto business bus sales company like the little buses that the hotels use to go pick up tenants at their clients at the airport and that sort of thing and school buses. So they don't sell to the retail. It's a businessto business use. But the SP zoning that's in place does not provide for sales of vehicles. So, they just want to keep the SP exactly the way it is and add the language to allow the sale of businessto business clients that they they use in their regular course of business. >> Chenet, do we have anybody else signed up to speak on this one? >> Are there any questions of the applicant? Uh, Dennis. >> Uh, motion for approval. >> We have a motion, a second. Would you please vote? >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you, mayor. Thank you, C. >> Passes unanimously. Item number 40 is considering his zoning change from SP2 generalized site plan mixed use and state highway 161 overlay to SP1 RAB detailed site plan restaurant with the attended accessory uses of the sale of alcoholic beverages for onremise consumption mixed use uh and state highway 161 overlay 11:01 West Royal Lane. The applicant is with us. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Tommy man, 500 Winstead building representing the applicant. I have a presentation if it's needed, but this is the RAB component for the Kirby Ice House of the overall project that was approved a couple months ago for clarity. It the RAIB only applies to the Kirby, but the whole project is going to be built together. That's a requirement of our zoning, and it's also a requirement of the LCA. So, we're happy to answer questions if there are further ones, but I know you have a big night. >> Okay, Dennis, >> I have no questions. I have a motion for approval. >> We have a motion, a second. Would you please vote? And it passes 8 to1. Thank you, sir. We now will go to the individual considerations. Uh item number 28 is a public hearing and resol resolution to receive citizens comments on the use of a portion of Tim Markwood Park for drainage improvements near and under South uh MacArthur Boulevard related to the West Irving Chak channel improvements project for phase D from Oakland Road to Rogers Road. Chenet have anyone signed up to speak on this? Let me get my documents together. Sorry, I have about a thousand little cards up here. No, sir, we don't. >> All right, since we have no one wishing to speak on this during this hearing, I will close the hearing and uh I'd entertain a motion for approval or denial. Hey, >> so moved. >> We have a motion. >> Second. >> We have a second. Would you please vote? and it passes unanimously. Item number 29 has been pulled. Uh >> we do have two people who signed up to speak. Do y'all will still wish to speak? That's George Kuba and Kim Lindberg. >> I'll pass. >> Okay. You you wanted to speak. Okay. This is George Kuba. [clears throat] Right. Good evening, uh, Mayor Silver, counselors, members of the gallery. My name is George Cuba. I live at 2325 Meadow Crest and I come to speak to you as a concerned citizen of Irving about these agenda items specifically. uh the comment or comment on this resolution uh supporting the president's comprehensive plan. Um I wonder why this item does not explicitly name the plan by its official title which is the President Donald J. Trump's comprehensive plan to end the Gaza conflict. Um is there an issue of optives courage or conviction? While the US has brokered a jour ceasefire deacto it has not held. The attacks bring the number of Palestinians killed uh by Israel to at least 241 since the the ceasefire took effect on October 10th. Um, additionally, this comprehensive plan is neither one comprehensive, two a plan, and three successful. Uh, while I of course unequivocally endorse a permanent ceasefire between Palestine and Israel, I do not agree to the 20point plan laid out and therefore would not endorse this plan which you withdrew. Um, particularly point N. Um, it is a long point which will take up my entire time. So, I'll specify some things here. uh the words technocratic and apolitical uh qualify Palestinians and international experts, oversight and supervision by the board of peace which will be chaired and headed by President Donald J. Trump including former prime minister Tony Blair. Um there is mentioning of a Saudi French proposal and finally making Gaza conducive to attracting investment. Um, so every sentence or phrase or term that I um just said right now in this list um has a point of contention um challenge and questioning what this technocratic a aolitical really mean and to who? What does qualified experts really mean and to who? Uh President Trump and former prime minister Tony Blair really um Bush's lap dog in Iraq. What does conducive to attracting investment really mean and to who? What does Saudi French proposal really mean and to who? France really the same country that with Britain partitioned the Ottoman Empire, divided Palestine as merely spoils from the First World War and was consequential in helping produce the injustice, death, destruction, pain, and misery of the past two years in Gaza. I don't think so. In conclusion, please read granularly um and read verifiable, usually academic primary and secondary sources on this historic matter um which are also available at your local library. Thank you. >> USA Al, >> thank you, Mayor. Um, I'd like to make a a very declarative statement. In the Sudan and Nigeria, we have terrorist Muslamic jihadists that are in a genocide war against Christians. both what has just been talked to and what I'm just saying is way above our local municipal area responsibility but we both understand that in these kinds of discussions it's really talking about what is the right way and how we can be together my personal opinion is my focus is what's best for the people of Irving that we represent this on the international sector. I don't care if it's at the congressional level or it's in the White House or wherever it is. But at the end of the day, this does not have a place here. And I'm making that very clear. [applause] Okay. We have any other speakers? The next item on our agenda is uh for a special election to be held. Uh Mark, you have a motion. >> Yeah. Considering the number of people that have uh signed up to speak on the on this agenda item, I'd make a motion uh in the interest of efficiency to limit the time for each uh speaker to one minute. >> Do I have a second? >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Would the council please vote? >> Second. >> Okay. I'd like to amend that to two minutes. >> And I and the reason I say that because we thought we'd have 100 or so people down here tonight, you know, which is why we was thinking about the one minute, but we don't have uh that many people. So I I think two minutes would be appropriate. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I oppose that. I think one minute is sufficient. We'll be hearing the same thing from a lot of the a lot of the people and so I don't think we need to hear two minutes for each each speaker. >> The point of it is >> please don't speak out of the audience. Please don't speak out of the audience. Yeah. >> So we >> So we have David. >> Well, he second the amendment. I think we vote on that first. >> Vote on the amendment. >> Okay. >> For two minutes. >> For two minutes. >> We have a motion for two minutes. He has seconded. So we're voting. >> Just a point of order. This is a motion to amend. >> So you will do the motion to amend. If the motion is amended, then you will vote on the amended motion. >> So this a motion to amend. >> And it's uh it passes. >> All right. So now we will vote on the motion. >> That's correct. Mayor, >> two minutes. >> Two minutes. Who makes the motion? >> It's already moved. >> Dennis made the motion. >> Now we vote for it. >> Okay. Would you please vote? And it passes. All right. Item number 30 is an ordinance of a special election to be held in the city of Irving on May 2nd, 2026 for the purpose of submitting to the qualific qualified voters the question of whether to contain continue [clears throat] Dallas area rapid transit dart in the city of Irving subject to the continued collection of sales tax for a period required by law. Chen, we have several speakers. So, >> we do. And I want to ask you again, please no clapping. There was a man who signed up to speak earlier and I said his name three times and he missed his name three times. That's what people can't hear when you're clapping. So, I understand there's passionate sides to this, but please, this is a business meeting. Let's act conducive to a business meeting. Our first speaker is Roy Gidding. Our second speaker is Blard Lamorges. >> I think Roy went home. >> Did Roy leave? Thank you. Brad Lamorges, followed by Andrew Arasco. >> Good evening. I'm Brad Lamorges. I live at 200 Hunters Ridge Court, Irving, Texas. Tonight, I rise as a passionate advocate for public transit and as someone who believes deeply in the power of local voices. I urge you to approve the resolution ordering a special election so that Irving's voters can finally decide the future of DART in our city. Let's be clear. I believe that modern, efficient transportation is essential to our residents, our businesses, and our future. But we must also face facts. Each year, Irving spends over a hundred million dollars on DART, nearly a quarter of our city budget. Yet, according to our own city resident survey, DART is our lowest rated service and only 1% of respondents use it daily. That's not good enough. We're locked into a system where half of our local sales tax goes to DART, putting us at a competitive disadvantage compared to non-member cities. And despite all this investment, DART hasn't attracted new member cities in decades. >> One minute. >> The governance, finance, and service models just aren't working for us. Our residents should have the right to decide if Dart is meeting their needs or if it's time for change. And I will assert to you probably most of the speeches saying, "I need to be able to take Dart. I need to be able to go to different workplaces, hospitals, whatever supports my effort that we ought to be spending our dollars locally on good transit that works for us. I am a massive believer in public transit and its role in a modern city. But belief alone isn't enough. We need results. Let's give our voters the chance to choose the future of transit in Irving. Let's vote for change, for accountability, and for a system that truly serves our community. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. Andrea Rosekco, followed by Michaela Thomas. >> Uh, hi, good evening. Uh, I'm Andrew Rosco. My address is 4237 Madera Road here in Irving. Uh, I can only speak from personal experience. Uh, I've been a homeowner here in Irving since 2018. Um, the dart enriches my life here. Uh, it helps us get to Stars and Mavs games. It helps us get downtown, uh, in Dallas without worrying about, uh, parking or traffic. Uh, personal experience aside, uh, I think it's important for the citizens of Irving to have the say in this because uh, working people use public transit to make this city work and to make this city great. So, I think it is something uh that I strongly believe in. Um, you know, I think worldclass cities have robust public transit. I would love to see that continue in Irving, and I think it's important for uh the people who live here to have a voice on that. Thanks for your consideration, >> Michaela Thomas, followed by Pamela Floyd. >> I also speak from personal experience, having used Dart for several years to commute both for work and for personal for personal use. I do vote in favor of leaving it to the leaving it to the residents. However, I do want I do have more questions more than more than anything. Should this get passed and residents vote against continuing Dart services, do does the council have anything in place to supplement those, especially especially residents working at the DFW airport to be able to get to work in a concise, cheap, and very efficient way to go back and forth? >> Thank you for your question. We have we are in the process of looking. We've talked to both VIA and Uber to see how we can utilize the services. We are getting bids from them that we would use internally. They also would provide the paratransit as part of the of their component and so we would have the ability to to operate within the city. Uh we've uh met with them on several occasions. They're preparing how they would uh work with us. Uh we were we've had questions about how Uber would work. Uh on a daily basis they have over 9,000 people that register within the city every day. Uh they would be able to take us across lines. We wouldn't be looking at zones. It would be the whole coverage of the city and we are now looking at how we could utilize them to take them out of the city as well. So we are looking and evaluating those and we will have something in place for the council to look at and address to your very question of internally externally and paratransit. >> Thank you. That's all I wanted to know. Thank you >> Pamela Floyd followed by Kim Lindberg. >> Hello. My name is Pam Floyd. I'm uh 4280 Madera Road in Irving. And as a homeowner in Los Kolina since 1999, I've seen the important role that public transit plays in keeping our city connected and accessible. It's crucial to understand the facts we discuss Irving relationship with DART. Contrary to some perceptions, Irving actually receives more money in DART funding than it contributes. According to reports, the city gets about 123 million returns while contributing around 102 million annually. This means Irving benefits financially from its partnership with DART. Mayor Stoofer, who also serves on the DART board, holds a unique and influential position. Given his vested interest, it would be reasonable to expect him to use this role to advocate for sustaining and improving the transit services that benefit the city and the entire region. If Irving chooses to withdraw from DART, all transit services will cease immediately the day after the vote. This includes bus routes and light rail, rendering the city's significant investments in rail stations and transit infrastructure useless overnight. These stations won't function without DART service. Worse, despite ending service, Irving will still be responsible for paying off its share of DART's outstanding debt for many years. These mandatory payments are tied to bonds issued by DART for years of transit expansion and capital projects, meaning the city will continue to pay tens of millions annually without receiving transit services in return. While alter alternatives like VIA have been proposed, they have not been proven to provide a reliable, scalable, and cost-effective replacement for the comprehensive regional transit system that DART offers. The question remains, what plan does Irving have? and you've addressed this slightly, but I don't think it's viable um for transit service starting the very next day after DART service ends. The very next day without a fully developed alternative, residents relying on public transportation could face significant disruptions and conclusion. Withdrawing from DART presents complex financial burdens, operational challenges, and risk to the transit infrastructure that our city has heavily invested in. Thank you, >> Pam. Kim Lindberg followed by Gary Slaggel. Kim Lindberg, 1910 Cartright Street, Irving, Texas 75062. I support DART. DART has been growing a truly regional multimillable system of transportation in DFW for over 40 years, serving Irving with light rail, heavy rail, bus transportation, go link rides, handy rides for the disabled, and hoot lanes for ride share. A vote to end Dart and Irving would end all these services. Who wants Irving to get out of Dart? If we look at history, we know moneyed interests are at the heart of the efforts to pull Irving out of DART. Today, the moneyed interests represent those who see a market for transportation they are eyeing for private profit. This is not dissimilar to those who wish to replace our freeways with tollways. It is wrong to use public rightway for private profit and more egregious essentially that it creates a builtin monopoly as there's only one direct path from point A to B along its corridor. As with any monopoly, there's no limit to the profit margin while increasingly auto transportation is becoming unaffordable for many. >> One minute. >> The moneyed interest. Why should the council representative vote against bringing this to referendum? The many interests who seek to privatize DART will be ready to throw significant funding to influence voters against DART. While the average citizen will not have the time or resources to counter them, should it come to a vote, use your last threat of democracy to vote out of office, those who would bring this to yet another referendum and vote to support DART. Thank you. >> Thank you, Kim. Gary Slaggel, followed by Jacob Jones. >> Yes, I'm [clears throat] Gary Slaggel. I live in Richardson. I'm a member of the DART board with Mayor Stoofer. Good evening, council members, Mayor Stoofer, and manager Chris Hman. I just want to say that uh over two year a little over two years ago the the cities within the dart system requested the North Texas Commission requested the COG North Central Texas Council of Governments and the RTC to put together a plan for future growth of transit. With the growth that's expected to happen within this region, there's a a significant need to be able to move people and not depend totally on building new highways and toll roads. So the the COG has hired a a couple of consultants. Took about a year and a half to put that together. Over the past six months, we've been reviewing that plan. Uh the the RTC voted to put together a a committee which uh Council Member Webb serves on which is really the 2.0 committee to start looking at what we could be. Uh there's a meeting next Tuesday or Thursday I guess it is of the of the committee where we'll take another look at what that plan might look like. We gave it a bunch of inputs. The mo most important one is fill in the gaps where we don't have transit, get everyone to be a member of it, return money to the cities who are already a part of DART. So that's the plan. Uh we will see the final version of that that will go to the RTC in January, possibly moving it forward to uh December, but it's worth taking a look at it. I think it deserves that and I would ask you to continue consider not moving forward with the election. Thank you. >> Jacob Jones followed by Naen Lee. >> Gary, thank you. Thank you for your service on the as chair of this last year. So publicly want to thank you for that. >> Hi, I'm Jacob Jones on West Valley Ranch Parkway in Irving. My time to speak is brief, so I will speak quickly. I am to address the council and mayor regarding the maintenance of Irving's involvement in DART. I believe that this is an important program to the corridor and to Irving. I do not expect anyone to change their votes because of my speech. However, if this does pass, I hope that you will be engaging with your constituents if they have questions on the impact on each and every one of our lives. To do this, I want to address why your backgrounds and publicly stated beliefs should give you reason to encourage your constituents to vote in favor of DART and Irving. Mayor Stoofer, you have spent seven years on the DART board. You know all of what the DATR system can do for all cities, including Irving. You have posed an alternative, a rid share app that has been publicly traded for all of two months and has yet to be profitable. Uber took 15 years to become profitable. Why should we hedge our bets on a new company that at best will clog up our roads in the convention center corridor that you correctly state can be a source of Irving's growth? Councelor FAF, you grew up here as DTS became DART. This is a boon to the city, especially in the areas of creating less road congestion and the ability of diverse neighbors to come together in the city that you continue to call home. >> Councelor Block, you have stated a concern for the traffic issues in Irving. This is a place that public transit can excel, especially with a council that endorses public transit instead of demonizing it. Especially as an Alpha Fi Omega alumnest, I would remind you that you have had a history of developing leadership, friendship, and service. Please continue this for your constituents that can be shown compassion through continued public transit for groceries, work, and civic engagement. Councelor Kavir, uh, you have expressed a desire to provide outreach and solutions around the homeless populations that spend time in Irving. I can admit that the city is not currently suited to enga to fully engage with all the administration and supporting our homeless neighbors. Removing Dart will the ability of anyone within our city to seek these services in neighboring cities. And I don't believe I have quite enough time yet for the rest of y'all, but uh I have lived in Irving for just a few months, but I was born in Irving. I've was raised in Metroplex. My mother was raised here and went to school with you. And this is an important issue for all of us. >> Thank you, Naen Lee, followed by Randall Bryant. >> Good evening, Mayor Stoer and uh city manager Hillman and council members. My name is Naen Lee, president and CEO of Dart. I do live in Dallas. For the record, the city of Irving is on track to exceed 2.7 million boardings with a good mix of rail, bus, Golink, and paratransit services. Unlike other cities, Dart investments in Irving outpace the sales tax collections. Irving residents use Dart. Irving has seen year-over-year growth in writership in the last three years. Irving is served by five high ridership bus routes serving almost 7,000 riders per day. Irving currently has three of the top five Golink zones in terms of wrership. Knowing the benefit of DART to Irving residents and businesses, DART has continued to work in good faith to address your concerns. This includes working to find ways to enhance your city and contribute to your revenue streams via transit oriented development projects. At the behest of your city manager, DART has created an opportunity to contribute a portion of DART sales tax increment from joint development to enhance transportation to Irving's new activity centers. We know this is a good idea. >> One minute >> because to within half a mile of Dart stations at the Los Kenus urban center and the Irving Convention Center is worth nearly 2 billion on the tax roles for the city of Irving. This is great progress that we're proud of and we ask you to continue working with us to build on the incredible me momentum we've created together instead of withdrawing. Thank you very much. >> Randall Bryant followed by Zohia Baral. >> Mayor Council, my name is Randall Bryant. I serve as chair of the DAR board. [snorts] I sent you all a letter earlier this week requesting a deferral of this item for 30 days. But after two nights in a row of doing this, I already know how this will end. Contrary though to the other three cities, I'm intrigued to hear the city of Irving's rationale for a withdrawal election given the two chief complaints I've heard are governance and funding. On our board, you have representation. As stated, your mayor on the funding, you don't qualify for a GMP because according to the EY report that I've been hearing all week about, you all are a donate city. You contributed in that report $102 million and got back $123 million in services. And if those services are not what's best for this city, then I'd like for us to review the past 14 board votes we've taken over the past 10 years for service changes. And only once, the most recent vote, was it opposed by Representative from Irving? And what is the replacement plan for your current writership? This via proposal that you have for $6 million will only account for 300,000 trips. Last year, Dart alone provided 400,000 trips for Golink, $1.2 million bus boardings in Irving alone. That $6 million plan is more like a 32 to $40 million plan, not including paratransit. Dart representatives have already notified you on April 4th through a memo of these findings. This plan will fail. you will fall into the same trap that Arlington did, which is why they've kept their VIA plan at 500,000 riders, leaving their community stranded. This is what you will end up doing to your writers. I implore you, please put off this vote. Continue what is left of negotiations, true negotiations. >> Thank you, Mr. Bryant. >> This vote failed twice already, >> Zoho. >> In ' 89 and in 96, and it will fail again. >> Mr. Bryant, have a seat. Thank you. >> Zohia Baral followed by Heather McNel. >> My name is Zoh Barmal. Address is 400 Goko Circleing. But I also have a home next to my church in South Irving where my wife's niece stays and that is 1019 East Shady Grove. So I'm here because I want to be her voice. She stays at my home. And without doubt, I will have to move her. She goes from Shady Grove to Dallas College 4 days a week. and she gets to stay free. Her insurance, if I add her to my car, I showing $250 a month. That would be $3,000 a year extra if she were to drive the car. That's just liability. And uh one of the argument against uh D is oh 98% of the people are not using it. Well, 98% of the people are not calling 911 once even once in a year. Would you would you put this Irving city on election just because 98% people have never called 911? 98% of the people never need God or remember God. Would you put God on election? The people who need dot it is working. I I can tell you dot is working for those who need it. 255 231 229 I see a lot of people they take dot from going from Jefferson Park to Walmart. So why why try to fix what is not broken and the economic value and and and if you if you try to I mean you're all wise people and thank you for your service because what you're doing it's it's a great thing you're spending your time today evening away from your wife and children but the point is that Dart is really like God for those who need it. I don't know if VI is working. I've got I I have a two nephews from 2017 to 2021 at UT Arlington and then one more nephew from 2021 to 2025. I've never heard VR from them. They never had a car. That that doesn't work. I mean, whatever VR is, I haven't heard. And I've got a whole group of UT Arlington students on my WhatsApp group over here. And VR is is is unknown. So, whatever your alternate plan is, I don't know if it is going to be successful. And thank you for this opportunity. Heather McNeel, followed by McNair, I apologize, followed by Zenubali Walla. Uh, good evening, mayor, council members, and city staff. My name is Heather McNair. Uh, I'm a Garland resident. Uh, but I'm here tonight representing Bike DFW, a regional nonprofit that advocates for safe, connected cycling, and mobility options across North Texas. We're here tonight because mobility is community. The decision before you isn't just about a transportation contract. It's about whether we keep building bridges between cities or start building walls around them. Irving has a long and proud history with DART. In 1989 and again in 1996, Irving voters chose to stay in the system because this city understood something fundamental that regional connectivity fuels opportunity. It keeps workers connected to jobs, students connected to education, and older adults and people with disabilities connected to independence. DART isn't perfect. None of us in this room believe it is. But we also know that when a system serves hundreds of thousands of people every day, the answer isn't to walk away. It's to make it better. We can demand accountability. We can insist on safety and equity and still believe in the value of staying connected. When we talk about leaving DART, we're not just talking about rail lines and buses. We're talking about people. >> One minute. >> These are the faces of Dart and of your citizens. These are the people whose lives would get smaller if you disconnect your city from the region. As someone who advocates and who listens to these stories every day, I urge you, please do not call a withdrawal election. Instead, please work with DART to improve service, strengthen bike to station connections, and continue Irving's leg legacy of leadership and regional mobility. We can't pave our way out of congestion, but we can connect our way out of it. Let Irving once again lead by example. Choose connection, choose progress, and choose community. Thank you for your time and your continued leadership. >> Zanb Italy Walla followed by Madison Noel McNir. >> Hello, my name is Zam. I live in Irving. I'm resident but for a 19 year old a dart is a god because when we go from house our house to college it's really easy like me a college student and a part-time worker from college to work and work to house it's a really good thing that I can connect the all the all of the things very carefully and easily but without dart I won't be able to earn because dart is the only thing I can earn and do my daily things like going to groceries or everything. So if dart is not there I would be confined and for me purchasing car is really really hard. So I would like to request to reconsider your decision and please thought about our our age group people also. Thank you. >> Madison Noah Noel McNair followed by Joshua McNair. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Oh, she he's trying to get you hooked up. Okay. Okay. >> Can you hear me now? >> Yep. Okay. >> My name is Madison Noel McNair. I'm a paratransit accessibility advisory group member. I am speaking for the disabled citizens in this metroplex who met Metroplex who cannot be here tonight. And although I live in Garland, I spend much of my time in Irving with my fiance. My I'm also a person living with a disability. For me and many others, DART isn't just public transportation. DART is how we get to live our lives. Uber and VIA are not replacements for disabled people, as most vehicles are inaccessible for mobility aids. Unlike DART paratransit vehicles, that's why the idea of Irving leaving Dart doesn't just concern me, it scares me. For disabled people, that decision wouldn't just change a transportation map or a piece of city policy. It would take away freedom, opportunity, and connection. I would like to remind us all where our rights to accessible transportation came from. Back in 1977, a group of disabled activists staged what became known as the section 504 sitin. They occupied a federal building in San Francisco for 26 days, the longest non-violent occupation of a government building in US history. They refused to leave until the government signed the regulations to enforce section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act. >> One minute. >> The first federal civil rights law for people with disabilities. They fought for me for all of us with disabilities to make sure that public spaces, schools, and yes, transportation would be accessible. They fought for section 504, which says that no one with a disability can be excluded from or denied the benefits of any program that receives federal funds. DART is one of those programs. If Irving leaves Dart, that promise breaks. Accessible buses, trains, and paratransit could disappear. And when access disappears, so does opportunity. Without Dart, many of us wouldn't be able to access basic things like work, school, or even a doctor's appointment. This isn't about politics. It's about people. It's about community. I depend on Dart, but I'm not alone. There are seniors, veterans, and working families who also rely on it every single day. Removing DART would isolate all of us and undo decades of progress. Please keep DART in Irving. Keep our community connected. Keep the spirit of section 504 and public transportation alive right here. For every disabled person, for every working-class person, for every veteran, for every senior, for every family, and for every dart rider, >> Josh McNair followed by Kathy R. Chapman Hackett. >> Thanks y'all for extending this two minutes. Uh my name is Joshua McNair with Sunrise Movement Dallas and I live in the city of Garland but do visit here quite frequently. Uh there's lots of perspectives on what type of issue staying or leaving Dart leaving Dart actually is. Some say it's an issue of crime. Some say it's an issue of economic efficiency. Some say it's an issue of convenience. The list goes on and on. I'm here to say from my perspective this is a class issue. Many poor and working-class, black, brown, white, Asian, rural, urban, and disabled laborers who work long, hard hours to sustain your economy rely on Dart to get to and from work. 220,000 rides a day across DFW. Let me repeat, 220,000 a day. DART's impact isn't measurable just by financial returns. I find the focus on crime strange. Violent crime is down 6% this year at DART stations, meaning the rest is nonviolent, like people simply seeking shelter. Meanwhile, this is still a fraction of the amount of people harmed by cars each year by reckless and careless drivers, something that can be greatly improved by public transit. When I see someone struggling at one of these stations, my mind doesn't go to blaming public transit. I blame the countless American cities who prioritize profit over its own people. Instead of better funding to programs to help people off the street, you want to take away public transit from everyone here. The lack of empathy and care for the poor and working class in America is disgusting, blasphemous, and ultimately self-destructive to both the soul and the city itself. We can't afford the thousands it takes to own a car. We already spend a fortune on apartments because cities refuse to freeze rent and refuse to ban sites like Real Page. And Texas continues to kick hundreds of thousands of longtime recipients of Medicaid off of it each year. Um, at least when Richard Jackson of Farmer's Branch called us all trash for taking DART up there, he was saying the quiet part out loud. What folks really think of us. He's scummy, but he's honest. I hope Irving Council doesn't see us that way. Dart delivers. Vote to keep Dart. Thank you for your time. >> Kathy Chapman Hackit, followed by Shannon Cigara. Hi, I'm Kathy R. Chapman Hackett and um I live at 8617 Forest Glenn Drive in District 6. Um, I'm here representing Tara, which is the Texas Alliance of Retired Americans, and I came forward to represent them tonight to tell you that we are against voting to leave DART. I think it from what I've heard from um the people here from DART is that there has been some chance for negotiations. And I would ask that the council remove this tonight and work on the negotiations that they talked about. And that's it. Shannon Sigara followed by Corey Carrasco. [clears throat] Uh my name is Shannon. I work in Los Kenus and I take the dart to work every day. Um, Irving's done a great job of attracting corporations to Los Kolinas and with that brings a lot more cars, a lot more traffic and I think everyone can agree that Dallas traffic is pretty unbearable. Um, I started taking the DART because my company as well as many other companies have started mandating 5 days in the office and I don't think I can bear driving in Dallas 5 days during rush hour. Um, during my commute, I'm able to be productive. I get work done. Um, I show up to the office. I'm not irritated cuz people are cut cutting me off and cutting other people off. Um, I I think instead of cutting the dart, there just needs to be a little bit more knowledge of it. I've informed a lot of my co-workers of it. They had no idea that there's a stop 10-minute walk away from our desks. Um, a lot of them are enthusiastic about it when they hear about it. They come from cities where they have great public transportation and they didn't have to drive to work. >> A lot of people drive 2 hours to work every day in traffic. Um, I think a lot of people, >> it would not only benefit the people who take DART, it benefits everyone, it gets more people off the road so that people can stay off traffic and they can also spend more time with their families. Corey Kas Krasco followed by Charles Kado. >> Good evening. My name is Corey Krasco, 2516 Willow Lane, Irving, Texas 75060 on the south side. Mayor Stoppper, a couple questions. If the city truly believes there's an a better alternative, then we need clear, honest answers before moving forward with the vote. What specific transit infrastructure will replace DART's breath of service, frequency, and reliability, and regional connectivity? Will that alternative deliver hundreds of routes or at least dozens of highfrequency lines serving both local neighborhoods, regional destinations, as Dart currently does? Will Irving be ready to serve even a fraction of the daily bus riders and rail riders that Dart moves across this city and the region, including those who work here? Most critically, will that alternative be fully operational before any reduction or termination of DART service happens? Because cutting off services without ready, reliable replacement would be disastrous for Irving residents who depend on DART every single day. DART connects us to jobs, to education, and opportunity. If we cut that connection without a clear and complete plan in place, we risk leaving too many of our neighbors behind. I urge council, do not move forward with the removal or at the very least ensure that every need Dark currently feels will be met. The cost of getting this wrong is not just measured in dollars but in lives and livelihoods. Thank you. >> Charles Kado followed by Emma Petty. >> Good evening, Mayor Dur and Council. Thank you for this opportunity. I'm Charles Ko. I live in the city of Mosquite and I'm the chief of police and emergency management for DART for Dallas rapid transit and I want to share with you that we have a very vibrant and robust partnership with the Irving Police Department. Uh Chief Miller and I are not just professional colleagues. I consider him a brother of mine. So we're we're dear friends and so we have a robust partnership. We work together on a regular basis. Uh so far this year there's a lot been made about crime and issues and yes there are things we work on every day. the men and women of the Dart Police Department to make our system safe and clean and keep it reliable for everyone. So far this year, uh this is from January 1st to October 15th, there's been 42 group A offenses, snipers offense, reported in the city of Irving to the Dart Police Department. 42 offenses. That's one a week for that time frame. And so it's not overridden with crime. Uh we have made 63 arrests in the city of Irving. We've also conducted 30 operations, joint operations with the Irving Police Department to target specific issues or problems that been brought to our attention. And yes, uh there's issue about 911 calls that come in. So if we're not a PAP, we're not a public safety access point. If somebody calls 911, it goes to the city. We serve 13 cities. It goes to the city. The city rolls that to us. So we've receive received 245 91 calls that have all been sent back to us that we responded. That represents just 8% of the overall calls. And yes, we've had some highly publicized incidents on September 3rd and and October 5th in the city of Dallas on our system. I've done a review of of homicides. So, we're as good as bad as the cities around us. So, in the last 10 years, 2015 to 2024, Dartis had 16 homicides. The on our system, the city of Carolton's had 32, Richardson 34, Plano 56, Garland 96, Irving 105, Dallas 1,95 people have been murdered in the last 10 years there. So we are we have the symbiotic relationship for as good as bad as the cities we work with. That's why we work diligently with each of our partners to make our system in the cities we serve safe. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you Emma Petty followed by KC Emma Petty 2805 Wells Road Irving Texas since 1968. I support taking this to the the community to let them vote on this. All I have noticed on DART is empty buses, maybe one or two riders spewing dark black smoke damaging our streets. We have to take care of that. And I think we pay entirely too much to DART and I don't believe we get more than we pay. I think we get considerably less. That's my opinion. Thank you. >> K Shack followed by Alex Flores. >> I'm K Shack. I live at excuse me at 931 East Oakdale in South Irving. And uh my parents moved here in 1947. I graduated from Irving High School and I was away for 20 years after that. I spent eight years in New York City and eight years in Chicago where I was fortunate to have a wonderful transportation system. I did not have to worry about a car. It was a dream come true. However, I was happy to get back home and be with my family and friends. So, I'm glad I'm here in Irving. Now, [clears throat] what I would like to say, I've been fighting this battle for a long time to keep Dart around here. And what I want to ask you is why do you want to stir the pot? We have elections over and over and over again and people get really scared because they're dependent on DART and they're anxious and every time we vote for DART to stay. People now have lost their source of income through the government shutdown. Their SNAP food stamps are gone during this time of the shutdown to government. Now you want to also take their transportation away. Why are you doing this? I thought you want to entice as many corporations as possible to locate in Irving. >> [clears throat] >> a uh employee ba a if you lose your employee base because you don't have transportation to get your employees to the corporation, you're not helping yourself. Our residents don't need another worry and anxiety. We're thankful. We're blessed with an excellent transportation system that supports both the residents and businesses. Stop adding stress and anxiety and leave a good thing alone. >> Thank you, Miss Shek. >> Thank you, >> Alex Flores, followed by Harrison Evans. >> Good evening, council members and mayor. My name is Alex Flores and I'm a resident of Plano. I work in downtown Dallas and I spend a good chunk of my free time in Irving between the various conventions, events, and the really good food and restaurants. I uh like many others use Dart to get everywhere in DFW. But I'm sure like one of you mentioned earlier, you're tired of hearing the same thing over and over again from everybody. So, let me tell you something a little bit different. Terror alone and stranded. That has been my experience every single time I've had the misfortune of using VIA in Arlington, Texas. Everybody from Plano to you guys have been talking about how VIA is going to be y'all's solution to replacing Dart. And I can tell you right now, it's not going to work. As much as I love spending my time in the Los Kus area and I adore the Urban Convention Center, so much so it was a lifetime dream of mine as a cosplayer to get photographed there. And unfortunately, it sounds like if you guys choose to host this election and your city pulls out, I and many others are just not going to come back. I recognize that you have the mindset of a growing population because you're a city and you want the best for your city and your residents and I know you want the best for the various economical tourists and visitors that come into your city with incredible facilities like the urban convention center. But you need to have infrastructure in place that works and is reliable. Keyword reliable. DART is late sometimes. Stuff happens between traffic and sometimes it takes a little bit longer for people to board, but it's okay because I know at the end of the day, Dart's going to show up. VIA hasn't on seven separate occasions for me. And I am not the only one. I highly consider you not to toss out a system that while it may not be perfect, already works. Think logically. Thank you. Harrison Evans followed by Robert Sheeks. >> Mayor Council Harrison Evans 1434 Esther Road, Irving. I'm against Ordinance 30. I rely on DART to get around to work downtown and the airport. I'm not and I know I'm not the only one here. Many people in Irving depend on DART every day. Seniors, students, and workers who need reliable, affordable transportation. I've heard people say Dart isn't safe, but that hasn't been my experience. Every time I use Dart or the TR, I feel safe and respected. In fact, according to Dart's own statistics, crime is down significantly across the system year-over-year. If we're being honest about safety, the riskiest part of my day isn't on the train or the bus. It's on Highway 183 or the streets of Irving with people speeding by or losing control. When I'm on DART, I'm with a professional driver or a trained operator, and I know I'm going to be safe. I also know most of you come from business backgrounds, many with MBAs or experience running successful companies. And I looked at this issue from the same business mindset. The EY study commissioned by the city shows that Irving receives $123 million in DART services and benefits while only contributing 102 million. That's roughly a 21% margin. We're not losing money on DART or making money. That's the kind of investment return a city can only usually dream of. I urge the council to vote no on this ordinance. keep Irving and Dart and keep the promise we made in 1983 to join Dart and reaffirmed in 1989 and 1996 and continue to be a 21st century city. It's good for safety. It's good for our economy. It's good for business. So, let's stay in Dart and keep Irving a place where we can live, work, and play. Thank you. >> Robert Shakes followed by Wally Banks. Uh, good evening. My name is Robert Sheeks. I live at 1903 West Fifth Street. And, uh, I'm a a DART writer. It's my, uh, I think DART has a a power to fight homelessness, my homelessness. I take it to work. I don't work. I don't live indoors. And uh I'm particularly fond of living indoors, having hot, cold running water, electricity, all that good stuff. Uh and calculating the value of DARP seems to be a lot of numbers being thrown around. When I went to uh see my niece get married in Colorado, cost me a buck and a half to get to uh Love Field. When I landed back at DFW late on a Sunday night, cost me a buck and a half to get home. And the bus number 255 dropped me off a block from my apartment. I heard 255 is on the list to be chopped. I heard also read that the city council's trying to save it. Well, >> one [clears throat] minute. >> Why is it in danger? Because the city council wants to drag his money back out of dark. I mean, uh, sounds like a split personality to me. Thank you for, uh, working to make this a better city. Keep at it. I hope you'll get it. Wally Banks, followed by Ruben Landa. >> Honorable mayor and council, city manager and staff. I'm Wally Banks. I got good news. We've voted on this question three times. You've given it to qualified voters three times in Irving. I know we voted into Irving. I was an election judge in a precinct. We voted to keep it. I was an election judge. I learned my lesson. I wasn't an election judge for the third time. >> [laughter] >> Jerry Jones wanted DART to pull out and but he really wanted the sales tax money. You know it. I know it. Who wants the sales tax money now? Am I wrong? Are we paying for DART as citizens through sales taxes and y'all aren't paying out of city taxes? I could be wrong. I don't know. I I don't know much about taxes, but I don't understand why you don't believe in three elections. >> One minute. I didn't find. Anyway, I guess you're trying to save me from dart. Are we deciding what is best for me? My family and I occasionally use Dart. We've always enjoyed it. We have buses, two train lines, and a third train line near our northern border. You tell me in the 2024 city of Irving resident survey that 1% of the respondents use DART or TR on a daily basis. Well, I don't use it on a daily basis, but I use it. How many people responded to the survey? What does 1% mean? I don't understand. >> Mr. Banks, that's two minutes. Thank you. >> Oh, excuse me. I'm sorry. Thank you for your consideration. Ruben Landa, followed by Daario Sanchez. >> Honorable mayor, council, city manager, thank you for the opportunity to speak in opposition to call for an election to withdraw from DART. My name is Ruben Landanda and I'm from Dallas, Texas, and I am the president of the Greater Dallas Planning Council, representing thousands of members and supporters across the North Texas region. For the region, the consequences go beyond municipal borders. When major city leaves, the regional transit vision becomes narrower, fragmented, and less effective. Regional competitiveness declines. Congestion increases. The region loses one of the key a few tools it must use to move people on a scale without building new roads and highways. Dallas area represented provides real mobility, economic, and social value to North Texas. It is one of the few regional systems that moves workers at a metropolitan scale and one of the few public investments that simultaneously supports economic development, physical evaluation, air quality improvements, and equitable access to opportunities across the region. If Irving leaves Dart, the outcome is not limited to losing access to a rail line. The region would lose high capacity mobility tool. Irving residents would lose daily connectivity to opportunities and the Dallas area economy would weaken at the same time as a population continues to grow. Are there legitimate concerns that Irving has? Of course, sure there are. However, none of those concerns warrant leaving DART. Misinformation about funding, crime, and writership are justific as a justification to leave Dart are not acceptable. Irving and Dart have an opportunity to work together and show how true collaboration work. Dark already already has done this with the city of Dallas and the city of Ralelet. These types of discussions are never easy and are but they're very much necessary. They're very necessary to get together on the table and work together to find solutions. As elected officials, you owe it to the community to work in good faith. >> [snorts] >> I ask that both Dart and the city of Irving put aside politics, come to the table, and develop solutions that will benefit both Irving and the entire region. Thank you. Dario Sanchez, followed by Con Lee. Good evening, Vio Sanchez. I am at 3022 Steven Street. Uh, I just want to start by saying at the start of this year in January, I was in a car accident caused by someone running a red light which totaled my car and put me in physical therapy for months. Had I had a alternate route to my destination, I certainly would have used it. Those decrying Dart have offered poorly thoughtout alternatives like microtransit, ignorant to the fact that high demand crashes its viability. We have yet to fully capitalize on Irving's position near the airport. And rather than encourage development that makes transit convenient, this vote would seek to cut off our nose despite our face. I urge you to vote no. Thank you. >> Khan Lee, followed by Earl Parr. >> Good evening. Uh my name is Khan Lee. I Good evening. My name is Khan Lee. I live on 1300 West Branch Hollow Drive in Carlton, Texas. Uh I am from Carolton, but my son and daughter will be in a production of the Nutcracker in Irving Arts Center. Uh I want to thank the city for providing such a wonderful theater for my kids to perform in and make such great memories that'll last a lifetime. Uh we are different cities but we are connected through a shared love of arts and culture and uh the art center is also connected to other cities with the 229 line provided by DART. The TR also connects this city to all the way to Fort Worth and that is paid I want to remind council that 50% of the operation of that line is paid by DART. Now I'm going to list off some companies. Archer Western Walsh, Texas Regional Office, Herszog Railroad Services, Jex Pro, Wesco Electrical Supply, Eaton and Cooper Lighting >> RAR Electrical Supply, Parish Electrical Supply, Crawford Electrical Supply, Hulcat Industrial Engine, Loftton Colar generators. These are just for electrical systems because that is my specialty. But if you include pavers, metal fabrication, and all those other disciplines, it's going to be a long list. These are all companies that are in Irving and benefit from Dart with their projects. And even if there's no station or rail line installed in Irving, they provide millions of dollars per year in economic gener in economic um dollars moving through Irving. We are all connected geographically, culturally, and economically. Transit is a big part of that connection. If you decide to break that connection is a disservice to the people of Irving and to the region as a whole. And I hope I see you at the Nutcracker. Thank you. >> Earl Parr followed by David Yakobian. Well, I lived in Irving 66 years, 62 years. Uh, we we deserve the right to vote. I mean, that's one thing we really like in this nation to be able to vote and we have a very inefficient uh system now and may be very corrupt. The management is just not with us. Uh, we definitely need to take another look at another way to do this. Uh, we lost the Dallas Cowboys because of the dart coming in. Otherwise, we would have the Cowboys here in Irving instead of Arlington if it would hadn't been for Dart. And that's a big loss. Thank you, >> David Yakob. Yakobian followed by Culie. >> Hey y'all, I'm David Yakobian. I live just down south. I'm your neighbor in Grand Prairie. Now, why is it such why is such a monumental decision being made without town halls or proper public input? If DART m makes a moderate change to routes, it requires town halls. And if DART ceases to exist in Irving, have you built a replacement? No, because you can't replace what took 40 years to build with Uber and Via drivers in their little Kia cars drinking a Red Bull. It's not going to work. Uber will increase sexual assaults, robberies, and kidnappings, and VIA will just leave you stranded like it did me. Grand Prairie VIA uh can't take me to the airport, downtown Dallas or uh Fort Worth. It can hardly even show up. No one uses VIA in Grand Prairie. The GP uh via parking lot is full. You hardly see it. It doesn't deliver the way DART delivers. And I like many would actually like to buy property and live in Irving uh for a easy connection to Dallas and Fort Worth with the TR. Throwing out DART throws away investment and development in your city. I'm jealous that you have TR access and I want in. But what will happen to the TRE? It is it just going to pass pass through without stopping? You're you're throwing away a direct connection to the two largest central business districts in the region. And this really I'm going off script now. This really frustrates me. Uh you know, as someone who studied economics, this makes no absolute economic sense for your city. If you want proper economic development in this city, if you want to grow your tax base, have a strong town, a strong city, you need to keep DART. You need to invest in in Dart and and proper connectivity with your neighboring cities. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Q followed by Hexel, Colorado. >> Good evening. My name [snorts] is Qui and I live in Sax, Texas and am a member of the Dallas Area Transit Alliance. I was born in Irving and my family for the most part chose Irving when they moved here in the 1990s and many of them still live here to this day and I'm speaking here also on their behalf. Um, Plano and this council, as I've heard, has discussed VIA as a possible alternative. And I I want to implore you, if you think VIA is a viable alternative, here is information straight from Arlington's financial documents. I have the data. In 2024, Arlington's estimate for rid share services was 745,000. For 2025, the target was 575,000. The massive decrease was due to their desire to keep the transportation service budget flat while running into cost increases. I failed to see how dismantling DART can work for this city. Arlington's adapted 2026 financial plan further reduces this number to 475,000 by cutting the transportation budget. You will be forced to do the same under the revenue restrictions the state government has put upon you. Dart may cut frequencies and they may change their routes, but a ride will eventually come to you. With VIA, you will be dealing with angry residents that never get a ride or not even able to get another ride. I encourage you to reach out to us as we have plenty of stories of using VIA and the horror stories of how inaccessible and unreliable it is. I request that you reconsider voting for this ordinance. Thank you very much. Hexel, Colorado, followed by Liz Mendoza. Good evening. My name is Hexel Colorado. I'm a resident of Dallas and I'm here to speak against this special election to leave Dart. I am a resident of Dallas, but I got my first internship in Irving. I remember taking the TR and the bus from here downtown Irving to attend my first internship that launched the rest of my career. I remember getting my first taste of Indian food on Story Road. And even just this past uh Saturday, I was participating in the dragon boat races on around Los Kenus Lake. And it surprises me that on my way there, I got there by Dart and the uh Dart rail station is right there at the new Wells Fargo campus where they have 5,000 employees going to have e thousands more and they're going to consolidate all these thousands of people to this location that's a stone throw away from a Dart station. What's going to happen? What's going to replace it? I think there's this misunderstanding that money spent on DART isn't economic development, isn't spending on public safety. Public transit is economic development. Public transit is investment in safety because you're taking cars off the road, the number one killer of young people in in America. And so, please stay in Dart so that this region can stay together, so that people can continue to have memories like I and so many of people have had here in Irving. Thank you. >> Liz Mendoza, followed by Ana Robertson. Good evening. My name is Liz Mendoza and I live at 1223 St. Reggie's Drive, Irving. I'm concerned about Irving City Council considering a pull out from DART. Public transit is about access, equity, and how we stay connected as a region. A lot of people living in Irving rely on DART to get to work, school, medical appointments, the airport, and even other events such as the state fair or games at American Airlines. Losing this resource for our community would be devastating. An alarming issue is any suggestion of Uber as an option. Do not entertain the idea of privatizing public transportation. That will financially burden your constituents. We talk about DART not turning a profit. Do we fund public schools for a profit? Do we fund public libraries for a profit? [laughter] Do we fund Irving PD to turn a profit? Do we have public parks for profit? No. We do so and support such funding because they are necessary public goods. A separate but relevant issue is how we speak about homeless people in such a dehumanizing manner and it angers me when people use them as a talking point a good start when they deserve public transportation to go to the job society const constantly tells them to get. I was just at the Dallas Public Library across from Dallas City Hall this morning and rode the elevator with and was among homeless people entering a place where all people are welcome. Dart is no different. DART is for everyone. Let's help our homeless community instead of trying to exclude them. If you pull from DART without having a plan, you will leave our most vulnerable without transportation. Pulling out would hurt not just Irving, but the whole regional system. DART is interconnected. If one city leaves, it affects funding and service levels for everyone. So, pulling Irving out of DART would be counterintuitive. Please keep Irving moving. Please keep Dart. Thank you. Anya Robertson, followed by George Kuba. Hello mayor and city council members. My name is Annayiah Robertson. I'm currently a student and student ambassador at Dallas College at Brook Haven campus and North Lake. I am here to discuss how many and how I and many other students and residents will be affected by the selection for the Dallas area rapid transit system. I started using Dart in fall of 2024 to start college. The DAR system helps me get to and from my classes and my clinical sites at Baylor Irving and Dallas Fire Rescue 42 fast and easy. Whether it takes me the 227 way through Farmers Branch Golink TR or the Orange Line from Bachmann, I'm a student who is afraid of driving in the city. But not all not just this city but others as well because the amount of reckless driving and people not caring about other people's lives, especially with 35 being one of the most deadliest highways in the state of Texas. This is one of the biggest reason why many people take DART to avoid traffic wrecks and reckless driving. >> One minute. >> Also, by being that by that being said, I do not have a vehicle. And as a 19-year-old like me, on average, car insurance is $300 to $400 a month, not including a car note and other liabilities. This is why I take DART. I will not be able to finish my degree or my license of associates of applied science and parame medicine. The Uber cost here is an arm and a leg per week, especially being full-time. I also use the Golink system from University of Dallas station to church, which is in Irving. And as someone who lives in Curlton, we know that driving from Curlton to Irving could be a long way, especially on 35. I also wanted to address how a lot of people um have issues with homelessness on DART, but there is no issue to fix anything about homelessness, especially in the city of Irving. >> Miss Robertson, your time is expired. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. uh George Kuba and our last speaker following him will be Paul Carden. These are some long steps. All right, I'm back. Uh my name is George Kuba. You know where I live, 235 Meadow Crest. and I'm here to speak again uh but now for DART DART membership. Um I understand the reasoning for calling this action. Um not only do I have the numbers to back me up, which we've heard today. Um but I also offer a per a couple personal stories as reputations. Uh my second year at the University of Texas at Dallas in Richardson. Um I no longer lived on campus on the dorms, but I also neither had a driver's license nor a car. Why get one without the other, right? Because of this, I knew I could rely on Dart. While the commute could be grueling at times, the time it took to commute from North Lake College Station to Cityland Bush Station uh could reach the 90-minute mark. Uh this method of transportation was one reliable, two easy, and three affordable. Um I could take TR from Heritage Crossing to either Victor Union Station, which connected me to Dart Orange uh/ Redline, but that involved coordinating up to three separate independent transportation services. The third being my university's Dart sponsored bus system. Because of this, I decided to take Dart Orange Line from North Lakes to UTD. Um, unfortunately this kind of created like a check mark system, which is why it took so long. This would not have been possible though if there was no Dart service in Irving. Plus, it was free because of the partnership between Dart and the University of Texas at Dallas. In the same vein, my other testimonies from a friend who travels frequently on a budget. Um, his words are that he uses Dart fairly often, especially when he travels to and from the airport. It's reliable, affordable, and environmentally friendly option that helps me save money and reduce traffic congestion. The $3 one-way fair is a fair and reasonable cost, especially compared to parking or rid share expenses at the airport. Finally, the numbers. All that can be said about financial and accounting, revenue, and expenditure minutia. Um, you've either already heard or probably will. So, what I will bring to attention is this. About a month ago, I heard Mr. Kabir speak about his work so far as a counselor. Two numbers stuck to my mind. The 17.5 million that the two-mile Esther's Road renovation cost and the approximate and potential 30 million figure that Irving could keep/save from DART. You can correct me if I clarify if I'm wrong. Um, but which is it? Is this uh which expenditure is greater or different than the other? Um in short, DART has served and continues to serve residents and municipal neighbors purposfully, reliably, easily, and affordably. Thank you very much, >> Paul Cordon. Carden. [clears throat] >> Good evening, mayor and council. My name is Paul Carton. I reside in Dallas. I work in commercial real estate primarily in the leasing and development of retail and transit oriented developments. I'm actually even looking at some projects in your heritage district. You know, I took the time to read about and understand many of your concerns and a common thing I heard is can you demonstrate the value of DART as you should as the leadership of this city. But I think the metric that EY is using doesn't really answer your question that you leaders are trying to answer. Instead of asking the question of what it looks like only on the public balance sheet, the real judge of values is what does Dart service enable in the private balance sheets of your residents and businesses. This may be news to some of you, but Dart, even in its current state, serves as mobility insurance for the middle class and choice riders. To understand the value of Irving, you need to survey things that match the modern world. How often does the average Irving residents use Dart? Not on a daily basis, but a weekly or monthly basis. Does it reliability enable people to forgo the family spare car? Does it encourage people to live near mixeduse nodes even if they don't use DART at all but reducing congestion as a result? Texot itself values an hour passenger vehicle delay at $38.98 97 per hour. How many hours are saved by the consolidation of trips into buses and trains with 2.7 million trips originating in Irving alone? It's probably a lot. in modern the modern simplified network is particularly suited to longer trips in integration with micromobility such as Golink. To give you an example of what the ENY report missed, I myself returned to from DFW from a business trip last week and could have taken a $65 Uber to return home. Still cheaper than parking, but instead I traded 10 minutes of my time and saved $30 by taking the Orange Line into Irving, then taking an Uber. If you had planned for more retail around your stations, I could have spent that on your restaurants. I agree and understand that there are things that can be done to improve the system and your community is counting on you to have a strong vision. I encourage you to build and share strong, bold solutions and lead with DART to move this region forward together. Thank you. our last speaker. >> Well, thank you all for taking your time to be with us tonight. I appreciate uh the input. Uh one of the gentlemen mentioned that there weren't any opportunities to talk about the route changes. Actually, DART held meetings right here in this very this very council chamber that they advertised to have people come down and talk about the route changes. less than five people came down to speak and of the five people that came down to speak. Now, I can't tell you why Dart didn't have more people that come down when they brought they had more people here to explain what the route changes would be than there were people that were actually here to actually look at it. So, I think sometimes there's not enough followup on the opportunities to to speak about this. I also, you know, I'm going to talk about a couple things because, you know, basically I I have some real concerns about the operation of of DART and how it's done, how it's done. The last speaker was very eloquent in the fact that you are asking 90% of the questions that we've been asking for 5 years. Who is the rider? How much does it cost? Do they ride more than once a week in Irving? Do they go where do they go from Irving? Do they just go around Irving or do they go out of Irving? Those are the exact questions that we have been trying to find out. The NY study when it came to g to myself and [clears throat] Chris was at 90 million. When it went to dart it went to 120 million. So that what we originally saw it was 90 million. So the numbers really and if you look at it there was nothing in there for what the city of Irving has done. The city of Irving is the only city okay the only city that purchased the real estate for the orange line and gave it to Dart but we get no credit for that. We were the only city >> that did not get Betterments. We foregone three stations. Then we now have to pay for those stations because of our betterments. Yet millions, tens of millions of betterments were spent on the Silver Line in other cities. So we've been treated wrongly. We have been treated wrongly. We have not been treated the same. Other cities have had 10, 20, 30 million dollars. One city because they wouldn't lower their raised the road, we had to buy million-doll homes and build a pump station. We put our fire station in peril so that we could have the rail line go through it. And now we're spending $20 million to build a new one because the equipment now will not fit in there appropriately because it's too close to the tracks. Oh land, we talk about the development in Los Kenus. 65,000 people a day are in and out of that facility. The workforce in the urban center is greater than downtown Dallas. 140 some shows a year are played in our entertainment venue and 4 to 8,000 people at each of them. I sit at the dart station to count how many people ride the train to get there. Very very few. The the entertainment event, you can shake your head. Have you stayed at the station and counted the people that get on and off at the two stops in Los Kolina? >> I ride. >> I know you ride. >> But we have we have people that actually go we have had actual employees sit there from the time it opened in the morning till the time it closed at night to see who got on and who got off. >> Uh well that's my point. So I I just wanted to talk about the fact that these are the questions we are asking Dart. Why do you have a new building built by Wells Fargo? And when we asked them if we could utilize part of it for dart, they said based upon the challenges that we faced as our builders came to work on this facility, we don't want dart anywhere in their building because we didn't like what we saw on the orange line coming from the airport because they were coming in their sight selectors staying in the Weston. Now, I understand each and every one of you are passionate about what you do because you utilize the system and I appreciate the fact that you utilize the system because we spend $300 and some thousand dollars a day so that you can utilize the system. >> Ma'am, we're going to ask the audience that to please hold your thoughts. Thank you. So, so my point being that we're at a point where we feel like we can't get answers from DARD and we can't figure out a way to work with things. I sat in a room. Oh, I know. I'm at their I'm in a meeting with them every time, but I'm marginalized. I was on the finance committee for a few years and they didn't like where we were going. So, they took four of us off of there five years ago when we were asking about finances and could we look at things differently. We sat in a room just recently with mayors from 13 cities and seven of us said the buses aren't full. Let's use smaller buses. But what happens? We buy 400 big buses. So those are the things that people don't hear about because we need buses, yes, but if nobody's riding them, let's get a smaller bus. Do you realize that we have $800 million worth of road repairs in this city? and you can go where where the dart stations stops are and you can see the pavement because of the weight of the vehicle. If we use smaller buses, it would save us money. It would cost less and otherwise. Those are things that we've tried to talk about, but we get nowhere with them. That's the frustration of the situation. It's not that we don't believe in DART. It's not that we don't believe in mass transit. It's that we are not getting the value nor are we get for our residents. When you think about it, there's 260ome thousand people that live in this city. You know how many ride a day based on their numbers? The two routes that they're they're eliminating right now says that 400 and some ride on one and 200 and some ride on another. That's 600 people a day. And those are the two busiest routes. So there's about 2,000 people a day. 2,000 people a day for $370,000. $2 billion has been invested in this system in addition to the land we gave and the betterments we gave. You know, we have to live by a budget. We can't issue bond debt unless it's approved. You know, just like you, we can't we do not issue bond debt in this city unless it's voter approved. Yet, they issue bond debt when they feel they need it. billions of dollars. [snorts] Billions of dollars. So it it's it's very frustrating because for the last four years or five years, Chief will trade me on will let me know we've been trying to get five men on our fire department and our EMS. It's going to take us five years if because of the government controlling our budget before we can actually have fourman crews on all our police on all our fire. We have 140 firemen or policemen that were short and we're it's going to take us five to six years to fill those positions. So, we're giving up a lot by not having that penny. You're giving up a lot as far as safety with your police and your fire. Now you're covered. But to meet where we need to go as a city, we have to budget for the next five to six years to have the manpower for our firemen and the manpower for our policemen. In the meantime, we're putting $120 million a year into DART. Now, I'm not saying we want we we have got to work together. >> This is one last request. Please, again, no more comments from the audience. This is now council's time. We appreciate your passion, but please continue to have the respect. Thank you. >> So, my point being that we have there's this perception that we don't want DART, we don't like DART, that the D, but the real issue is we're not getting our our citizens taken care of. I mean, K, how many times have you called me and said, DART isn't doing this right. We need to change this route. That these things are all wrong. But >> directly and I also >> That's fine. I asked her. >> No, I asked her. But my point being my point being those things don't always, you know, you expect me to do it, but you're on the committee. We talk about it. I don't always get it. I mean I mean you sit here and talk about how great everything is, but then you complain to me how bad it is. So those are the things that are hard for me to understand. So that's that's where I am as far as is some of this. Now the situation here, you all seem to think that we're voting out of DART. The situation is we're calling a vote. Do we stay in DART or do we get out of DART? It's not a matter of we're getting out of DART. It's a determination by the residents who pay the money. That's the bottom line. Now, if enough of them say we're staying in, we're staying in. If enough of them say we're moving out, we're moving out. That's what democracy is. And when we started this several years ago, we were investing 60 million. Today, this next projection for the year is 120 million. That's double in 5 years. So, at some point, double your money that you're putting into something. Cut your routes, put in gold link systems that do not cross lines. and our residents cannot get around in the city. That's what I hear. They can't get from one goal link zone to another goal link zone because the goal link here is at Rock Island. So if you're if you're going north of Rock Island, you got to change zones. So there's a lot of issues here that potentially could be fixed and we've been talking about them. Chris has been talking about them. We've been talking about them till we're blue in the face. And unfortunately, the only way we've gotten any attention is to threaten. I hate threatening. I hate controversy. I hate controversy. But when you can't get something done, what do you do? You go after it. That's the only option you have. Because I have residents today contacting me that they can't get from where they live in one zone to another zone. Now, you're fortunate you don't have that problem, but I have people that do have that problem that live here in the city of Irving, and it's usually our most vulnerable. You're right. It's our usually our most vulnerable. So, having said all that, that's I just wanted to understand some of the questions that were talked about like the ENY study, some of the things that were talked about with uh [clears throat] uh why we're why we're in this situation and where our concerns lie. And so I appreciate Thank you very much for listening to me, but I have two others. I believe Dennis is first and then Al is next according to my my statement here. >> Yeah. Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] So, um, back in August of 1996, I was one of Dart's biggest proponents in that election to stay in Dart. Today, I'm not Dart's biggest proponent. And I'll tell you why. Number one, you know, Rick, I appreciate the years that you have been trying to speak up for the citizens of Irving. Um, I remember back uh when uh the Orange Line, I was on the council when the Orange Line uh went to the airport and we needed some rightaway purchased to cross over into the airport and Dort made the city of Irving pay for it, but it was Dort line, you know. Um when I heard Mr. Sheik say the reason that we lost the two 255 and the 20 two uh 25 or whatever it is sir we lost that because of budget cuts by DART that's why we lost it DART had to cut their budget so they cut their budget by cutting our routes but then the response to well then what is the alternative some of you tonight have cursed Uber and lift well guess what your alternative is from start, Uber, Lyft, it's called microransit. And so, so if you think that the people that ride the 255 and the 225, whatever, is going to have some other alternative than Uber and Lift, you're kidding yourself. That's what you're going to have to do because that's their alternative. Why? Because it's cheaper. Number one, when you stop and think about it, we keep talking about regionalism. Okay? The city of Irving has been a regional partner for years. Somebody asked these other cities, your Frisco, your Arlington, your Grand Prairies, your Mansfields, why are they not running to get in line to become part of this regional transportation system. You know why? Because they don't want to give up their 1 cent sales tax. And they use their 1 cent sales tax to kick our behinds in economic development. And I serve on the transit 2.0 O subcommittee for the RTC whose big vision is to to to bring all of these cities into this transit system. But they're not going to have to pay give up their one cent. They're going to be able to get allocart service. They're going to be able to choose what they want. That's why they have not joined because they're not going to give up their one cent. They're not going to give up their $140 million to Dart. And so when you look at Irving, we have been very faithful. We have been very uh supportive of the DART system since its inception. But I agree with the mayor. You know, the question was asked when you take a stop or cut the 255 route, how much money is that going to save you to cut that bus route? And we can't get an answer. We haven't got an answer yet because if because I want to know how much money is it going to save you then on top of that how much money you going to pay to provide microtransit for all those riders that were riding the bus. We can't get an answer. So I'm trying to keep my frustration down because you know I'm now having to deal with a lot of this stuff that Rick has been dealing with. You know, we talk about the governance model. Who in here think it is right to have one city control the dart board? Anybody in here think that's fair? No, that's not fair. But that's what we have to deal with. We have no control. The cities have no Dallas. The city of Dallas Dart Board controls DART because they've got the monopoly on the DART board. And so therefore, the things that we're trying to fight for for the citizens of Irving, we're hampered. I responded back to the email when we first got the notification that they was cutting our two routes. And my explanation was simply this. I am here for the transportation needs of the citizens of Irving. Now granted, I I'm concerned about Dart's future even with the cities in it because if you had a bad year this year to the point that you had to cut your budget by what, $60 million or whatever it was, and the number might not be right, what about next year? If you have a bad year, what else you going to have to cut? The cut's going to come to Irving. You know, we talk about congestion, you know, we talk about, you know, uh, riding in cars and all these congested streets. DART should be trying to promote something that helps to deal with congestion. The city of Irving, you're taking buses away. How do you deal with congestion? Rails and buses, not microtransit. Microtransit does not solve congestion. But guess what? We are being moved and pushed toward microtransit. The 225 255 routes that are scheduled to be taken out in January are going to be replaced with microtransit. And who knows if Dart continues to have bad years and they keep having to cut the budgets, we may not have no buses in the city of Irving because we seem to be the one that gets the uh has the target out of seven routes that are being cut. Two of them are in Irving in this whole dart system. Two of those routes are in Irving. Now, somebody please tell me how is that equity? You know, I'm a big proponent of fairness. You know, if you're going to let other cities come in and be part of this system and you're going to give them all court service, as I heard it said at the transportation summit, then why don't you let Irving have allocart service? Why don't you let us choose what we want to pay for and what we don't want to pay for? But you expect me to sit here and be happy and be happy about you want to let other cities come in when we have helped to sustain this system for all the years? I got a big problem with that. So no, we are up here. We're not against DART per se. We're not against the citizens. We're up here trying to protect the citizens of Irving and give them the value for which they're putting that hundred and some million dollars in every year. And you got to understand, you know, our sales tax continue to go up. So we may be doing 116 million, 110 million now, but what about 5 10 years from now? We may be doing 150 million to Dart and steady getting services cut. Nobody in their right mind is going to sit there and take that. It is my responsibility as a council member to look out for the citizens of Irving. And so, uh, I was the one that drafted the proposal that was sent to Dart expressing our concern about the cutting of the two routes, you know, and I would hope that they don't cut them, but apparently they've already made their minds up they're going to cut them. So all of the people that have been used to riding the 255 from the Heritage Park up story road every day go out stand at a bus stop get on a bus now have to schedule a ride every single time. That's not fair to our citizens, you know, and then when we talk about Golink, you know, talk about the Golink zones, you know, the request or the question was asked, why can't we just make Irving one whole zone? Forget the two zones so that once you get to the edge of one zone, you got to stop, make a transfer, and get into another vehicle. Make the whole city one zone. The response was, "That's too expensive. That's too expensive." you know, and then when you want to give some cities some rebates of their money, all except Irving, my question is, why don't you take that rebate money and help subsidize some of these buses that we are needing to keep in our city? So, there's a whole lot to this that the average citizen does not understand. We up here fighting for your for you all. Now, quite frankly, yeah, I hope we don't have to get out of dart, you know, but at the end of the day, as a city council member, I cannot sit here and see what I'm seeing and understand what I'm seeing and think that it's okay for me to just continue to just keep pouring money in the dart uh and um you know, and be happy about it. Uh not. So, I'm about equity. I'm about the governance model. I'm about the financing model, you know, and uh hey, u at where I stand right now, I'm ready to vote to call the election. And keep in mind, the citizens will decide if we get out of dart, not the council. The council would be the ones that says we'll put it on a ballot and let the citizens decide. And so, um, I'll stop there, uh, if other people may want to say something, but, um, you know, like Rick, um, I'm I'm not that, uh, happy about what's happening with Dark. I'll I'll matter of fact, I'll say this here, we've got about eight rail stations when you count the TR stations. Okay? If they cut these two routes, we're going to have not count the two rail stations, um, we're going to have out of the out of the I think we're going to have five rail stations in our city that does not have bus service to them. And you're talking about trying to solve congestion. You're talking about trying to move people. You're tr Why don't Dart spend some money trying to increase ridership in Irving? And by the way, the 255 that was just put in a year and a couple of months ago is scheduled to be cut. And DART has, we thought, a policy that allows a route route to stay in place at least 2 years and then evaluated, but they're cutting this route after a year and two months. So, we talking about fairness here. Now, I don't know if that's ever happened in any other city where you put a route in and then a year and two months later you you take it out. I asked that question. But at the end of at the end of the day, at the end of the day, this with me is about equity, fairness, and calling holding Dart accountable to the citizens of Irving, Texas. >> Al, >> thank you, Mayor. Both our mayor and my colleague Dennis Web. No, it is now council's time. Citizen comment has already ended. Thank you though. Appreciate it. >> Am I ready now? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um both Dennis and uh and our mayor, I don't have to repeat any of that. Um but I am going to talk a little bit about some of my feelings about some of the history, what Dart is about. uh going back to my tenure in the department of transportation and when AMPA for some of you that may not know what AMPTA stands for it's urban mass transit administration and the whole idea was to take the major u mass transit which were basically subways in four major cities Boston, New York, Atlanta and Chicago. But think about what I just said to you. Those are center of urban, commercial, and business districts. And so they brought people in and took them out so they go to work. We have an interesting dynamic that is here in North Texas because we obviously are growing. But stop and think about uh Dallas and Fort Worth and why is it called DART Dallas area rapid transit. It's what it really is and that's what you're doing by the way. And first of all, let me say a few things that I'd like to be personalized. I'd like to thank my colleague who spent a little bit of time here on the council with us, uh, Councilman Brad Lamorges, as eloquent as ever. Thank you for taking the time to be with us and give us your pearls of wisdom as always. So, but I also want to thank the chief. I want to thank all of you that have been here. I know the the chairman now that I've had a chance to meet. Uh Randall, thank you for being here. Same with you, mayor. We have a little history. I lived in Richardson when I was here with Arco, so I know a little bit about where you come from and what you did. And of course you, Naen, the CEO. I really want to thank you for being here. And I think it's Landa, am I correct? Gracias. Okay. Um, but what I really want to talk about, how do we move forward together because it reminds me of how we're dealing with and I'm dealing with it directly on uh postNAFTA and the USMCA between the United States, Mexico, and Canada. And we're going through some very interesting times of how do we then go through a process to continue to work together and have the strongest trade regime in the globe. Well, take a look at us. You all at NAFTA, in my mind, have a huge, huge responsibility. But I think you're starting to meet it because I think you're going the way I would do it if I was in your position, and that is go regional. Why? We're all growing at a very very rapid pace in Texas, but also here in north and in the metroplex, but it's going north, going northwest, northeast, and you need to reach there and you need to provide that. And I think that's what you're doing or attempting to do. So, I understand that. I'm looking at ways that we might be able I'm going to throw a thing a few things out to you. You know, it's about rebalancing our relationship. And I mean that because I think my friend Dennis talked directly to it. I know my mayor did the same. We're also trying to decide how do we be responsive to our local populations that do need transit whether it's bus rather some of the new that are coming on via and also you know the orange line. And I remember when we did that and I remember even before that when Dart was really becoming what Dart is today at the very seinal time um during that period of of uh when I was here with Arco. So I understand where you came from. What I'd like you to know is that, you know, there's an area called dispute resolution, which means we need to get in a room and we need to figure out how we can both win both the city of Irving and your responsibilities as the Dallas Rapid Area Transit. You know, it's not called Dallas Fort Worth either. There's a reason for that history and where you are trying to do things. Of course, we have the TR that was part of where those two cities put it together. So, I'm reaching out to you. [clears throat] I am a very strong proponent and believer of urban mass transit. I come out of Los Angeles. We used to have urban mass transit rail. We got rid of it. Why? We ended up with a lot of cars and a lot of highways. And now what are they doing? They're putting light rail back in there on those same areas. So I'm saying to you, look at we're all in a change. We're all having more that's happening to us here from a population growth and it behooves us to get together and try to make this work. We have time to do it all. Irrelevant of what our vote is going to be tonight. But I'm asking you to understand that it's not done. We have time. We don't want you to leave unless you want us not to be part of the future with you. And that works both ways. And so I really would say to my colleagues, we're at a time to really make the decision, take the time to work together, and spend the time to make it happen. So I want to just thank you. I'm very personally involved in this. I've been doing it a lot of years. And so, thank you for being here. I look forward hopefully no matter how we vote, stay with us because we want to be with you. Okay. Thank you, >> David. Thank you, Mayor. Very [clears throat] well said. I'll like to just take a moment. The first speaker, Brad Lamorgous, I'm sitting in your seat and very good speech tonight. So, it's always great to hear you. Uh Paul with the last speaker, loved it. You know, those are the questions we want. I think the mayor touched on that. We do want answers and and see where those answers take us. I'll just tell you as a council, um, we talk about a lot of things. This is a very important issue and I'm I'm glad we're taking it up. We're all big believers in public transportation. I have not talked with anybody on the council that's not. You know, we all know that the traffic on our freeways is a lot and we're going to double in size in this metroplex in the ne next 25 years. We need mass transportation to quell this traffic. The environmental of all the cars on the road is also a huge problem. You know, we want safety. We look at this beautiful orange line we have coming through right through our urban district, right through the Texas stadium site that someday we'll have something great on it. Our TR takes us downtown Fort Worth, downtown Dallas. Mr. Webb, Councilman Webb, just wrote it to our TML conference last week and the experience was >> good in unfortunately free. Should have paid something, but uh don't send him an invoice on that. But I think between, you know, Councilman Webb, uh, the mayor, I love, uh, when the mayor gets passionate. We can, we can hear his, uh, voice. He's been on the dart board a long time, been in this chamber for a long time, and we really respect what you say, and thank you for your leadership. As Al said, you know, we we want to work together. We want to see where this goes. I'm pretty sure this vote's going to pass 9 to zero tonight, to be honest with you, because that's what it's going to that's what's going to happen. So, what do we do going forward? You know, we really got to look at the finance model. And for all you out there, the numbers were correct. 120 million will go to Dart this year from our sales tax. That's half our sales tax that we collect in the city. We work our butts off up here. the city staff works their butt but butt off to get restaurants to get businesses to get all these things to come to our city so our citizen citizens can spend money our visitors can spend money and have a great time in our city so we're giving up half of that money every year in our two cents of sales tax to to our public transportation and I'm sure the council if you gave us a bill for 120 million this year we would give it to you for the services paid and that's the service model we're talking about. When we have a service that we're paying for, we pay a price for it. Right now, we're paying half of our sales tax that we are working hard to increase every year. With or without DART, we're going to keep continue to work on our sales tax revenue increases in the city. So, that's one of the things I want to make sure that uh from the management, Miss Lee, Mr. We really would like to see the revenue model as a as a fee for service and really sit down with y'all and see what we can do because we need our kids to go to school. We need our uh people to get around the city to get to grocery stores. We need this service and we're willing to sit down and work with you. I think Councilman Zapont said it perfectly. So with those things, um I'm pretty sure it's going to be a 9 to0 vote tonight. It'll be in the news tomorrow, but we want to sit down and work through this um and and make sure we have a long-term solution for both the city of Irving and Dart that we can live with that we don't have to do this. I think it's every six years that a vote's able. So, if if we do this vote now, it passes, we're good for at least 6 years if a whole another council comes. But we don't want that. We want a long-term solution where we can work together. the next time the mayor talks, he's happy and not frustrated, and that's all I want. So, thank you, >> Mark. Appreciate all the comments from everybody else. Just wanted to add a few more. Um, obviously here on the city council, we are stewards of the tax dollars in the city and so that uh imposes a large responsibility on us to make um the best decisions for for our citizens. Uh it it hearing about DART it's it's obvious to me that the the whole concept was illconceived where you have just 13 member cities into it uh where some where we're paying in 1% other cities don't. It's obviously created this disparity where cities like Arlington and Frisco use that 1% for economic development creating u sports venues in particular uh where you would think there would be a great interest in having mass transit to them but there isn't because they're not in DART and instead so they're building these these um these arenas um other cities are using their 1% for economic development and um our city our chamber of commerce is trying to find other ways to encourage economic development with one hand tie behind their back. The the cities and the econ and the uh chamber of commerce have been very successful. They work very hard and we're very fortunate to to have the the benefits of their the fruits of their labor, but it's very difficult for them with this dart structure. Another and just recently we saw another example of how this disparity um affected Irving. So, uh you look at um Senate Bill 840. It's it's the latest legislation that was passed in Austin dealing with um affordable housing. And what it said was every city over 150,000 people was obligated to no longer have zoning that was li restricted to office or or commercial development. Instead, cities over 150,000 people had to allow multifamily in those in those areas. And the reason for that is because cities like Irving have been successful in actually making it a desirable place to leave to live and and it does have connectivity with with um to other parts of the metroplex through the through the roads. Then you look at like cities like Mosquite the supposition is that although the metroplex is just getting all built out of there's no place for uh new housing to go in. Mosquite has actually lost residents. Mosqu is not in Dart. It does not have that connectivity. So again, this this this the way DART was conceived without all the members in North Texas being part of it, Mosquite was left out of actually having any sort of mass transit and it's declined as far as like a desirable place to live. If it wasn't if we did actually have a working mass transit system to cover the whole area, then you would see development including housing development across the whole region. And so um I like David FAF said I'm a big believer in mass transit too and it but it needs to be a regional solution where everybody pays in everybody gets to benefit from it and there's true connectivity that is efficient and serves all the communities in North Texas and we don't have that now. So those are my comments. Somebody want to make a motion. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that um item number 30, ordinance, ordinance special election to be held in the city of Irving on May 2nd, 2026 for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters the question of whether to continue Dallas rapid transit in the city of Irving subject to and I can't read the rest of it, but that's my motion that we uh pass this >> second. Okay, we have we have a [clears throat] motion in a second to Would you please vote? and it passes nine to zero. That takes us to item number 41, which is appointments uh resolution casting the city of Irving's allocation votes for a candidate for the board of directors of the Dallas County Appraisal District. David, do you have that information? >> Yes. I move to cast the city of Irving's votes for a member of the board of directors of the Dallas Central Appraisal District for William David Palmer. >> We have a motion to second. Would you please vote [clears throat] >> and it passes unanimously. >> M chair. >> Yes sir. Mayor, I'd like to propose under item 42, move to confirm the reappoint of Dana Collins to serve as a commissioner on the firefighters and police officers civil service commission for a term expiring November 2028 and clarify the term of the previous appointment of Benedict Parks to an unexpired term expiring November 2027. >> We have a motion and second. Would you please vote? And it passes 8 to1. The uh next item on our agenda is uh resolution uh annual appointments to the boards and commissions and committees to fill two-year terms of unexpired unexpired terms. >> David, are you doing >> I'm doing it. So bear with me. >> Sit back, relax. >> Y'all can sit back and relax for a little bit. He gets >> I move that the following appointments be made to the city of Irving board commissions and committees to terms expiring November 2027 unless otherwise noted. Irving Health and Disabilities Advisory Board to appoint Molly Maguire place one, Monica Hera place three, Geneva Bernap place five, Pash Rana placed seven, Carrie Johnston placed nine and a point Atha Jones placed two, Aana placed four, Angela Morales placed six, Jacqueline Arcadia place 8 to terms expiring November 2020. 26 Irving Animal Services Advisory Committee to appoint Barath Sampath Place one, Ricardo Miranda, place five, and reappoint Stacy Cucettes place three. Irving Arts Board to appoint Lisa Deagarza, place three, Anthony Scanio, place five, Sandra J. Stewart, place 11, and reappoint Gregory Schwarz, place one. Chris Wallace, place seven. Robert Josh, place nine. Building and standards commit commission to appoint Matthew Baker, place one, Jared Dixon, place one alternative, and reappoint George Welch, place three, Debbie Smith, place five. Construction Board of Appeals to appoint Steven Hopwood, place one, and reappoint John Clayon, place three, Zack Penn, place five, Michael Havens, place seven, Irving Convention and Visitors Bureau Board of Directors, to appoint Kyle Taylor, place nine, and reappoint Cambria Jones, place one, Kulvin Gibson, place three. Karen Cooperstein, place five. Sam Reed, place seven. Julia King, place 11. David Cole, place 13. Board of directors of the Dallas County Flood District Control number one, appoint to a term expiring August 2027. Robert Matkin Jr. and reappoint Robert M. Nelson Jr. to a term expiring August 2027. Board of Directors of the Dallas County Urban Rec and Reclamation District to reappoint to terms expiring October 2029. Bruce Camus Roy Santisoy Green Advisory Board to appoint Joshua Chow Place 5, Khik Mohamd Shake, place nine, and reappoint James Widner, place one, Joshua Burka, place three, Allison King, place seven. Housing and Human Services Board to appoint Robert David Gooding Senior Place three, Cynthia Sharp, place five, and reappoint Bob Harris, place one, Sasha Moreno, place 7, Jerene Miller, place nine, and appoint Marissa Robels, place two, to a term expiring November 2026. Capital Improvement Advisory Committee to reappoint Michael Randall place one, Ricky Lightfoot, place three, John F. Boille, place five, Juan Juan Carlos Gonzalez, place seven. Irving Library Board to appoint Cynthia Lynn Simmons place three, and reappoint F. Malloy, place one. Mercy Morales, place five. Sophia Kang Meyers, place seven. Marilyn Hope Williams place nine. Parks and Recreation Board to appoint Jim Eer place one. Guyther Fischer III place three. Dolores Kelly place five. Rosie Ming place 7. Aisha Kui place nine. And to appoint Kevin Morrow, place eight to a term expiring November 2026. Planning and Zoning Commission to appoint Adam Frrier place eight and reappoint Daniel Denny place five, Terry Pritchard, place six, Debbie Hack place seven, Ricky Lightfoot place nine and appoint Inyan Inyot Khan place one to a term expiring November 2026. Zoning Board of Adjustments and Appeals to reappoint Rodrik Roberts, Claire Shazad, Shouod Duscupta, and Robert Long. Alternative one. >> Do I hear a second? >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion, a second. Would you please vote? And it should pass unanimously, I believe. All right, David, you got anything else to say? Nope. [laughter] Okay, that brings us to the end of our agenda. Thank you all for being here tonight. I appreciate everybody's patience and uh we stand adjourned. >> Thank you, mayor. >> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music]