Norfolk City Council Formal Session - April 14, 2026
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Please rise. An offer to the council
is now in session. We'll stand for a moment
of silence and then remain standing for the Pledge
of Allegiance to our flag. I pledge allegiance to the
flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic
for which it stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Mr. clerk, please call the roll. Mr. Clinton, present. Mrs. Doyle. Present. Mrs. Johnson. Present. Mr. McGee. Present, Mr. Page. Present. Mr. Smigel. Are you all being
so proper for here? This gentleman here. Doctor Alexander. The motion is to dispense with
the reading of the minutes of our previous meeting. Mr. Clanton. Hi, Mrs. Doyle. Hi, Mrs. Johnson. Hi, Mr. Magee. Hi, Mr. Page. Uh, Mr. Smeagol. Hi, Mr.. Thomas. Hi, doctor. Alexander. All right, Mr.. Clerk, please read the
resolution certifying the closed meeting. The resolution certifying a
closed media council of the City of Norfolk. In accordance with the
provisions of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act. Adopt the resolution,
Mr. Clanton. Hi, Mrs.. Doyle. Hi, Mrs.. Johnson. Hi, Mr. Magee. Hi, Mr. page. Hi, Mr. smigel. Hi, Mr.. Thomas. Doctor Alexander. Hi. Good evening, and welcome
to the Norfolk City Council meeting tonight. We begin with two ceremonial
items, then public comments on consent and regular agenda items, followed by
public hearings. Then the consent agenda, which
will be voted on in the block following the consent agenda. Will take up regular agenda
items and then new business to address the council. You should have registered. Speak with the clerk
prior to 3 p.m.. When you name is call,
please come to the podium. State your name, your address. Please limit your comments to
three minutes before we begin. Mr. clerk, will you please read the rules governing
tonight's meeting? Certainly. City Council rules
permit each speaker three minutes in total to speak on
any and or all consent and agenda docket items at
each monthly meeting. If in advance of tonight's
meeting, you registered with the clerk to comment on any
public hearing matter, you will receive an additional three
minutes for that item as well. As you approach the council, you'll notice a
timer on the lectern. At the beginning of
your three minutes. The green light will activate. 2.5 minutes into your remarks,
you'll notice a yellow light indicating that you have
30s to finish your comments. At the end of the three
minutes, you'll see a red light in here, a beat. We ask that you conclude
your comments at that time. While speakers have an
opportunity to address council on docket matters, all comments
should be made in a manner that respects the seriousness of the
forum and should not be made in a profane, disruptive,
sarcastic or demeaning fashion. All remarks should be made
directly to the City Council as a body, rather than to any
particular member of council, staff or the audience. Comments on an agenda item
should be germane to that item. A speaker who fails to comply
with the basic rules of decorum will be deemed out of order and
not allowed to conclude his or her comments. And as a reminder. No sign, placard, poster or
like material which may be carried by hand shall be
permitted in the city council chamber or adjoining areas. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. The first item I would like
to call to the podium, the Northview High School boys
basketball team, head coach Ricardo Foster and members
of the team And team. Please stand. And as you do, I want to
recognize superintendent Doctor Jeff Rose, Principal Jacobs,
Sunbury, and Steve Sutton, Miller school board members,
chair, Tiffany Board Buffalo, and members Colonel Ken Paulson
and Alfreda Thomas, as well as TJ Adams from Northview. And Mr. Smigel has made it
very clear that he's an alum. And pilot. And so please welcome. And as I read the the the
you know, please stand quiet. And all of you, you're champion. Stand up. All right. Doctor rose, whoever wants to come to the podium, I'm going to
read the resolution. Read the proclamation, and then
we will have photos and would make a presentation
and it reads. Whereas under the leadership of
head coach Ricardo Foster, the Northview High School Pilots
captured the 2026 Virginia High School League Class five boys
basketball state championship, defeating champion green Wren
High School of Virginia Beach in a thrilling 58 to 55 final
held at VCU Siegel Center in Richmond, Virginia. And Whereas the pilots
displayed exceptional athletic ability, discipline, and
sportsmanship throughout the season, demonstrating
remarkable determination as they battle their way to the
state title while proudly representing Northview High
School and the City of Norfolk. And Whereas the players,
coaches and support staff worked tirelessly to achieve
this championship, inspiring their school community and
exemplifying the values of perseverance, unity and excellence both on
and off the court. Now, therefore, be
it proclaimed that I. Kenneth Cooper Alexander may,
at the seat of Norfolk, do hereby recognize and
congratulate Coach Foster and the Northview High School boys
basketball team for winning the 2026 Virginia High School
League Class five state championship, and for their
exceptional achievements, which have brought great pride and
honor to their school and to the City of Norfolk. Given in my hand this
14th day of April 2026. Congratulations, coach. Thank you. I. Hope you don't get off that easy. We're going to have
everyone to come up. We'll take some pictures, but
if you want to say anything before we do, this is
your opportunity, sir. Um, thank you all. Thank you all for
inviting us here. Um, it was a it
was a great season. Um, again, the young guys, they
showed a lot of perseverance and discipline all season, and
it's not that easy to win a state championship, so you know
when you get that opportunity. I advise any other, any other
program man to take advantage of it and enjoy it. Because, you know, my team, we
missed that opportunity in the 2020 season with Covid. So going through this moment
right now is just very surreal and I'm humbled to
be in this position. You know what, I want
to thank you all again. All right, coach,
team, come on up. Uh, coaches, board
members, come on up here. Come on up. Come on. Come on, come on,
everybody, come up here. We'll try to squeeze. Yeah. We need the guard. Yeah! Come on, come on, come on. What are you doing? Here. Yeah. Congratulations on me. All right. Superintendent. Oh,
you're the coach. Oh, no. Oh! Oh! I need the superintendent. I need the school board chair. You don't have to let her go. Yes, sir. Yes. Thank you. All right. Coach. All right, slide. Down on. Slide a little bit. Make sure we get the team. All right. Where is the coach? Number two. Okay. I'm gonna stand up between
the two on the front. Your locks don't block. Everybody can see. I can't, I can't see you. Can you? Yeah, yeah. Can you see? Can everybody see? Make sure. Everybody okay. Okay. You know, I'll make sure
you can see everyone's face before you start to tell us. What to do. You can't see. Me. I can't do that. Who? You can't see. All right. Make sure. That was the best
player on the team. The team. All right. One more. One. One more. One more. We're going to go. Palace one. Come on. Go, Noel! One more. Go, pilot! All right. All right. All right. You know, we got to do it over. At the bottom. Okay. All right. All three. One. Two. Three. Four. All right. That's extra. That's very good. That's right. All three. Of us. Thank you sir. Oh my gosh. It's funny. I heard. I gotta get the job done. All right. Would you say about Randy? How do you know? I said you may be an alumna. Of North and. High, but it's. Important to tell. That bass player. I wouldn't talk to him. Give me a second
to get out time. It's time to. Transition. It's always fun when you get here. Got. Some of those
tomorrow, aren't you? No one will give you my first. Bunch of stuff. He came in here this afternoon. Oh, no. He was tired. Babies keep him up all night. That's some. Orange juice. Okay. All right, let me see it. Two. Three. Two. Three. five. That's. So cool. I don't have any speakers. Everyone will just
ask questions. I'll be hearing one, sir. Yes, sir. All right. Public hearing one scheduled
this day pursuant to state law. To hear comments on an
ordinance approving a lease agreement with the Girl Scout
Council of Colonial Coast as lessee for real property known
as 8420 Granby Street in the city of Norfolk, have an
ordinance approving a lease agreement with the Girl Scout
Colonial Council of Colonial Coast as lessee for the real
property known as 8420 Granby Street in the City of Norfolk,
dispensed with the charter requirement for reading the
ordinance twice and adopt with the effective date. Mr. Clanton, a mrs. Doyle, a
mrs. Johnson, a mr. McGee, a mr. page, a mr. Smith. Mr. Thomas, a doctor Alexander. A. Mr. Clark. It appears that
the consent agenda will be considered in a
block unless otherwise noted. Mr. Molina, you want to
make one comment on one. I would have pulled
something, sir. I think there's a
change to C4 conditions. Um, black Eyed Peas restaurant. I'd like to pull that
to the regulator. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Except for the C4. Thank you. Through the consent agenda. And dismissed with the charter
requirement for reading the ordinances twice the adopt with
the effective date, with the exception of C4. Mr. Clanton, a mrs. Doyle, a
mrs. Johnson, a mr. McGee, a mr. page, a mr. Smeagol,
a mr. Thomas, a doctor. Alexander Evans, clerk, c4. And Mr. Melita, want to explain
your, uh, your amendment, sir? Um, based on updated
information from the director of the Department of Planning
and Communications with the applicant for this conditional
use permit, um, condition I, in section two of the
ordinance describing the entertainment that will be
permitted at this location will be amended to remove, um,
remove disc jockey as a form of permitted entertainment. So the approval before the
council today will be for all the forms of entertainment,
with the exception that are requested, with the exception
of disc jockey Mr. Bull. The ordinance granting a
conditional use permit to authorise the operation
of a restaurant with live entertainment, and the sale of
alcoholic beverages on premises consumption at an establishment
named Black Eyed Peas. Restaurant or property located
at 241 Granby Street, with amendment dispensed with the
charter requirement for reading the ordinance twice and
adopted the effective date. Mr. Clanton. Mr. Mayor, I just want to say
I'm going to vote in favor of this, but I just want
to say thank you. And welcome to Black Eyed Peas,
and thank you for considering the city of Norfolk. So I, Mrs. Doyle. Welcome to Norfolk Ice. Mrs. Johnson. Thank you. And welcome to
Norfolk, Mr. McGee. I. Mr.. Page. Mr.. Mr.. Nagel. Thank you, Mr.. Thomas. Hi, doctor. Alexander. Hi, Mr.. Clark. Our one fa one is an ordinance
amending section 18 of the FY 26 Annual Appropriations
Ordinance Number 49 966, so as to accept an appropriate
$20,000 from the Carnegie Corporation of New York in
celebration of the 250th anniversary of the Declaration
of Independence for the Downtown and Van Wyck branches
of the Norfolk Public Library, and amending the FY 2026 budget
to include the same dispensed with the charter requirement
for reading the ordinance twice and adopt with the
effective date. Mr. Clanton. Hi, Mrs. Doyle. Hi, Mrs. Johnson. Hi, Mr. Magee. Hi, Mr. Page. Uh. I'm going to vote out, but I
have a question when it says the downtown. Are they speaking of
the Slover Library? Um. That is correct. All right. Mr. Smigel. Hi, Mr.. Thomas. Hi, doctor. Alexander. Hi. 202 is an ordinance
amending the FY 2026 annual Appropriations Ordinance number
49 966, so as to appropriate an additional $32,096 from the
Virginia Department of Fire Programs through its Aid to
Localities grant for Norfolk's fire services, for a
total of $1,332,096. And to clarify the use of the grant in amending
the FY 2026 budget. To add this amendment, dispense
with the charter requirement for reading the ordinance twice
and with the effective date. Mr. Clanton I, Mrs. Doyle. Aye. Mrs.. Johnson. Aye. Mr.. McGee. Aye. Mr.. Page. Aye. Mr.. Smith. Mr.. Thomas. Doctor Alexander. A303. Is an ordinance amending the
FY 2026 Annual Appropriations Ordinance Number 4099 66,
so as to appropriate $33,235 in grant funds from the
Virginia Crisis Intervention Team Coalition to support the
Norfolk Crisis Intervention Team program and amending
the FY 2026 budget. To add this grant dispensed
with the charter requirement for the ordinance twice and
adopt with the effective date. Mr. Clanton. Hi. Mrs. Doyle. Hi, Mrs. Johnson. Hi, Mr. McGee. Hi, Mr. Page. Hi, Mr. Smigel. Hi, Mr. Thomas. Hi, doctor. Alexander. A r for. Our for is an ordinance
amending the FY 2026 annual appropriations
ordinance number 49 966. So is the appropriate
an additional $22,958.46 in federal substance abuse
block grant funds from the Virginia Department of
Behavioral Health and Developmental Services to
support the local recovery courts, and amending the FY
2026 budget to add the same dispense with the charter
requirement for any ordinance twice, and adopt with
the effective date. Mr. Clanton. Hi, Mrs. Doyle. Hi, Mrs. Johnson. Hi, Mr. McGee. Hi, Mr. Page. Hi, Mr. Siegel. Hi, Mr. Thomas. Hi. Doctor. Alexander. Hi, Mr. Clark. You have another? That's all I. Have. All right. New business. The first speaker is Mrs.. Miss Susan. Music. All right. Come right this way, miss. Music. All right. John Hester gave me this. Nice. Oh, wonderful. Come on. Just come right this way. Followed by Reverend
Nathan Butler. Okay. Okay. All right. Hold on one second, please. Okay I will. Don't start the clock yet. I won't. All right. So. For the for the a
and Mr. Rogers host. Okay. I don't know if Allen has one,
but I gave PDFs to Allen, so. All right, let me know
when I'm starting. Sure. Ready? Um, again. My name is Susan. Um, nice to see you all. Hope you have a wonderful
Mother's Day, Ladies and Fathers Day in June. I'll be back in
the area June 1st. I still don't have my house
built, but pretty much. I wrote about what's been going
on in this little packet on page one. You know, I'm excited to
talk to Attorney General J. Jones's, uh, Miss Smith, his
assistant in the Civil Rights Division, about some
things that happened to me. And I'm in the process of
filling that out, giving you all time to investigate
and get some things. Okay, so, um, I just feel
grateful that he's got run such a nice office. Um, I just feel like, you
know, 18.217 8.1 financial exploitation of vulnerable
adults or seniors. Now, I may have a disability, but I assure you
I'm not vulnerable. I will fight back. Uh, if someone tries to hurt
a senior, an animal, a kid in front of me, I will say
something in section B, it's unlawful for any person who
knows or should know that another person is vulnerable to through the use
of other persons. Impairment. Take,
obtain or convert money. Think a value belong to that
person with the intent to permanently deprive
them thereof. Any person who violates
is guilty of larceny. Matthew Zielinski are. Court knows what happened to
me after my fire broke in. They broke into my house. Um, financial
exploitation is horrible. And it happens by
some of our cops. And, uh, it's a shame
that some of our cops. Not all. There's so many good cops in
Norfolk, but some are not that when you call, they think they
want to look at the label and not what's really
happening here. Knock it off. Um, I will not be gang
stock ton of down by felons. Um, bad moms. Uh, the cases in the civil suit up in, uh, Virginia
Court of Appeals. No person has power
over attorney. I don't need to. I've got 300,000 in the bank. I've got a credit
score of 76 503 houses. So please stop thinking
that I'm stupid. The Norfolk police have the
have in the past trespassed on lies and propaganda of
felons who killed my cat. The miscarriage of justice by
Commonwealth attorneys Victoria Fairbanks. All those people
listed is being looked into by appropriate boards
above you all. But we do have lawyers on this
board, and it's just ridiculous that citizens
don't have a voice. When I come back, I'm I'm upset because, you know,
a lot of my stuff. I wanted it all resolved
before I came back. But, you know, I sent you
pictures of my house that was going to be built. Um, and then just
rumors and then people. I had a contract, and
then they just pulled out. So I learned from Don Hester,
who I love, by the way, your city treasurer. She basically is that one
minute, one minute left. Okay. She basically said, as
long as you keep that lawn clean and you get your good. So we're paying everything. My life matters. Rowland Hill, who was killed in
Virginia Beach for trespassing with a disability. That's not going to happen. We have lost some faith in
some of our law enforcement. We just need to work smarter. Not not harder. Uh, we need the citizens advisory committees
and communications. There's a lot of stuff in here
with all of you about statutes. If you're not a lawyer, I'm
trying to learn with you and what's going on,
and I'm just done. So please, let's work together and make this city
unity in the community. And when our kids graduate from
high school with disabilities, we got to make sure we have
a plan so they can own homes. We can get master's degree. Imagine that. Thank you so much. Thank you. Reverend Nathan butler. Pastor Dale. All right, Jim Casey. The only Jim Casey here. Jim. To you. Jim. Come on up. Yes, sir. That's you, sir. Excuse me. Hello again. Hello. Jim Casey, nine six, four nine. Dauphin. Run! First and foremost, I'd like
to thank you for your help over the last few years in dealing
with noise and safety. And for those of you on the
council, we've been working this for many years, and hopefully we're
going to get there. Um, the problem is we still got the
problem, Mr. Mayor, and things are We thought they were
getting better, but with all those meetings that you helped arrange, the city
manager was involved. We had the middle management
and they tried to do things, but you know, they're in
the middle of the layer. So what we think might be
useful right now is for maybe you to consider meeting with
some higher level military officials, like airline and
surf land, the two two stars that are over at the Naval
Station Norfolk, as well as meeting with an FAA rep that
deals with the Eastern region. Because right now, the majority
of our problem with the airport and also with some of
the helicopters is FAA. Now, there are some pluses
there that's happened recently, and that is because of the
accident out of National. We've got some legislation
out of Congress that's talking about they're going to
legislate what helicopters can do in relation to commercial
airports and that sort of thing, and they're
taking positive actions. There was a recent act that was
almost passed unanimously by the Senate and almost by a
house, but they wanted to redraft it into another one,
which just got tied up with. Everything else is
going on right now. The FAA and the interim has
made another a direct thing to the military, and they
basically restricted the helicopters from flying along
the coast over there towards the airport. And they're making them
reroute their routes. And so that's a positive. But there's other
problems the FAA has. For example, we have no noise
zones at Norfolk International. None. No noise abatement. And that's something that we
need the FAA to help us with. And as far as getting also standard departures
out of Norfolk. So all of those things interact
with the helicopters and the commercial air. We just don't want an accident
happen as well as flying low over our houses and leaving. It's not just our East Ocean view that's having this problem. It's all over Norfolk. I had the opportunity to talk
with the Federation of Civic Leagues last week, and a lot
of those people are having problems, and even one lady in
the back raised her answers. If I can read the tell numbers,
are they flying too low? So, I mean, that's the
problem we've got right now. So we'd like you to help
us out a little bit. I have a package here talking
about everything, and I have one for each of the council and
one for also the city manager. Thank you sir. Yeah. Thank you. And by the way, one last thing. You have an excellent person you brought on your
staff, Dave Gregg. And he's your new, uh,
military affairs liaison. He happens to be the
commander at Little Creek. He would be happy to help
you get squared away on those meetings as well as we will. Thank you. Jim Jefferson. Barboursville. Followed by Nick Moser. All right. So, like you said, my
name is Jefferson Bowers. I'm here with the Tidewater Democratic Socialists
of America. Can I have y'all
stand up over here? Um, so, uh, I'm here today to
talk about the flock cameras in Norfolk and other
cities in Hampton Roads. So I'm an IT worker, so I know a little bit about,
uh, cybersecurity. And these things are extremely
insecure from both the hardware and software perspective, just
to name two things off my head, there's unencrypted or easily
decrypted data stored in these things, and many of them have easily accessible
hardware ports. I can just plug into it, get
everything that's been on that camera in the past
at least two weeks. Uh, no amount of software
updates are going to fix this. It is a from the ground up
reworking of not only the hardware, but the
software of these cameras. Uh, and they don't reduce crime. They studies the gentleman,
they frankly don't reduce crime, but they collect so
much data, including our faces, license plates, our movement
patterns, and even in some cases, our speech, or at least
the movements of our lips, which is an AI algorithm, can
interpret what we're saying. Um, so not only can
hackers take that data. But, uh, federal agencies who
aren't supposed to be having access to this data can easily
have been given this data, such as the ATF, the Air Force, the
GSA, inspector general, and even Ice to help with their illegal immigration enforcement. So my question to the council
is, how does the City of Norfolk protect our data from
hacking and misuse by local, state and federal officials? And my request is to pause all
flock purchases in the future and deactivate every flock
camera in the city until they are completely redesigned
from the ground up. To not collect so much data
and implement industry best practices for security. Thank you. Thank you Nick. Nick is followed by
Alexander O'Loughlin. Hello. I'm also here today to
express my concern about the flock camera system that's
been installed in Norfolk. Um, this is not really a system
that's been designed for solving crime. It's a system that's been
designed for mass surveillance. And it's a national scale
system, which means that law enforcement and other federal
agencies outside the scope of Norfolk can query our data and
use AI powered methods to track people historically. Um, I believe this is a violation of our
expectation of privacy. And, uh, they are not like,
um, traffic cameras, which only capture data on a
express violation. These are cameras that are
recording all the time. Everybody and
everybody's motion. These are capturing the license
plate, timestamp, and location of every car that
these cameras can see. And they're AI enabled. So they're also capturing
detailed fingerprinting information such as the make
and model and color of cars. Any other significant details
such as dents and stickers and anything else. Because these cameras are AI
enabled, we also know that they have the capacity to do
tracking on individuals. And there are many cases where
we've seen across the country that these cameras are
installed in places that are not just tracking traffic, but
they are aimed at playgrounds. They're watching children. These cameras are being
abused by officials across the country, and because the
network integrates nationally, it is beyond the purview of
Norfolk officials to actually tell what happens
with that data. So that puts us all in a
very vulnerable position. And I feel unsafe
whenever traveling. And I see that I'm
passing a camera. I kind of like shudder inside. I'm like, who's going to know
the entire history of where I go when I'm passing
through Norfolk? Um, again, as mentioned
previously, it's also the company is partnering with Ice
and Palantir, uh, which are both companies that um, or both
organizations, I suppose, that are, in my view, hostile to humanity and the
American people. Um, as I said before, the cameras
also have an incredibly poor track record with security,
which means that not only can, uh, state actors be watching
us, but also anybody with minimum, uh, technological,
um, you know, know how. Um, and I think,
um, the $430,000 a year that Norfolk is spending
on these cameras could easily be used to prevent crime in
other ways, such as providing community support and resources to those most
afflicted by poverty. Um, thank you for your time. Thank you. Alexander O'Loughlin. Followed by Johnny Lillard. Good evening, Council
doctor Alexander. I'm also here to express my
opposition to the city's use of the automatic license
plate readers. I don't believe that residents
should be subject to this dragnet style surveillance
tactic that tracks the movements of everyone as they
move throughout our city. At the last council meeting
where we were allowed to speak, I spoke about some of the
findings that the Virginia State Crime Commission, uh,
had had had published, um, that covered how different law
enforcement agencies throughout the state used these
systems and how they. Um. Pardon me. Um, I spoke about the findings
from the Virginia State Crime Commission showing that some
agencies have used these systems outside the limits
that were set by Virginia law. So we now know that misuse
is not just theoretical. Uh, it's been openly
acknowledged by the law enforcement agencies themselves
that responded to the report. Today, I want to focus on
something related from my perspective as a security
professional, and that's auditability and
systems like this. Audit logs are what allow us to
verify that access and actions performed are authorized,
appropriate and lawful. They're what turned policy
into accountability. But recent reporting has raised
concerns about how FLoC handles audit logs. One analysis found that audit
log entries, which included unique IDs timestamps, have
been changed between downloads, with up to 7% of records
shifting day to day. If that's the case, then the
record of who accessed the data when it was accessed, why it was accessed, it's not reliable. So we end up in a situation
where misuse has already been shown to occur, and at the same
time, the system responsible for detecting that use
misuse can't be trusted. So at that point,
accountability depends on trust, not evidence, as we
like to say in a security game. If the logs can change,
so can the truth. Um, I don't think that me or
my neighbors should have to highlight the abuse potential,
the poor security, or the lack of trustworthy audits to just
say that we really don't want to be surveilled. And so I bring all this up because it highlights
a broader concern. Systems like this collect
massive amounts of data sensitive data, I might add. Um, and therefore they should
rely on strong safeguards to prevent misuse when those safeguards
are called into question. The risk isn't
theoretical anymore. So this is just another example
of why deploying a system like this, with this level of access creates a real risk
for Norfolk residents. And for those reasons, I
urge the council to terminate Norfolk's contract with
FLoC and remove the cameras. I believe Norfolk can't
pursue public safety without subjecting its residents to an
expansive surveillance network, whether it's properly
audited or not. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Do any litter? Little litter. Good evening. I'm also here to join my
friends and colleagues in opposition to Norfolk's use of
flag cameras, and I would like to offer a slightly
different argument. Um, recently, sir, that. Pardon me, um, if any of you
recall the the Super Bowl commercial of the ring cameras,
where the illustrated the search party feature in which
any camera could be activated immediately to search for any
search for an entity on those cameras with that, um, flock is essentially a is a is
a similar surveillance network, except without except
constantly active, without any without a trigger for a request. It is constantly, constantly
collecting this surveillance data of everything it can see
in Norfolk, including both drivers and pedestrians. I for one would not oh would
not like my friends and neighbors to be subjected to
this panopticon any further, and I also support my support. The discontinuation of the
flock contract with Norfolk. Thank you. Thank you. Samuel Willis. Good evening, councilors, I'd
like to thank you for remaining present and allowing us to voice our concerns
to you directly. As promised, since it does not
appear that the Council took our previous appeals last
month into consideration. I am here again to express my
strenuous opposition to the city's contract with
FLoC Group Inc.. The city spends a minimum of
half $1 million a year to pay an out-of-state corporation
to install and operate private cameras on our streets,
capturing as much data on the free movement of innocent
citizens as possible, while also absorbing the legal costs
of defending the program, which I am sure have not
been insignificant. In exchange, FLoC Group Inc. provides the local police
department with a rolling 30 day window of footage and data
for law enforcement purposes. It purports to delete the
footage outside of that window, which the contract defines as
still images captured by the hardware in the course of and
provided via the services. The privacy protections in this
contract have loopholes large enough to drive a truck through. To begin, there is no provision
in the contract for flock to delete any actual data. Only the still images from
which it derives that. I think there is very little
reason to believe that flock does not possess all of the
information it has ever derived from any of its Norfolk cameras
in its corporate databases. Additionally, whether FLoC
means that it deletes the actual images in its storage
or merely deletes them from the service provided to Norfolk
PD is open to interpretation. There is no provision to stop
the information it gathers on Norfolk citizens from being
accessed by anyone other than Norfolk PD. In fact, the contract openly
advertises that it shares data between customers. Texas police have historically
used camera information in other states to prosecute
a woman for crossing state borders to exercise
her abortion rights. Last week, we discovered
that while flock Group Inc. purportedly canceled its
contract with Ice, Florida's Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Police have been accessing Fox systems on their behalf and forwarding the data
to them anyway. There can be no safety
for our community. While these cameras remain up,
we demand that the city stop paying flock Group Inc. millions of dollars
to spy on us. We want FLoC out of our city. We demand an end to
this dystopian dragnet, unaccountable private surveillance network in Norfolk. This crowd will continue to
grow month after month, and stand in front of you and look
you in the eyes until you do the right thing, which is this. Immediately vote to end
contract number 97430 2023, in accordance with
section 6.2 termination for convenience and send city
workers to cover all existing flight cameras
with plastic bags. Why cover the cameras, you ask? The contract specifically
states that the cameras will be removed at Fox owned
convenience in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and
Eugene, Oregon. Municipalities voted to end
their contracts with flock after the company
breached their trust. They then discovered that
flock continued to operate the cameras for months anyways. Why operate cameras for months
when no one is paying you two? The answer is simple we
are not the customer. We are the product. Thank you. Thank you.