JANUARY 27, 2026 >> Mayor Guajardo: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AND WELCOME YOU TO CITY HALL AND TO OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THIS MORNING OUR INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR RICK BARRERA WITH SUMMIT CHURCH TEXAS. >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. IT'S MY HONOR. I WANT TO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. ZANONI FOR THIS HONOR OF BEING HERE WITH YOU. I ALSO WANT TO WISH COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. YOU MAKE 29 LOOK GOOD. LET US GO TO THE LORD IN PRAYER. MOST HEAVENLY AND GRACIOUS FATHER, YOU WHO ARE PERFECT IN LOVE AND JUST SO WONDERFUL TO US EACH AND EVERY DAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THIS COMMUNITY, THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT WE GET TO CALL HOME. I THANK YOU FOR EACH AND EVERY LEADER IN THIS PLACE THAT I'M SURROUNDED BY. GRANT THIS COUNCIL WISDOM TO LISTEN AND COURAGE TO SPEAK BOLDLY BUT RESPECTFULLY. DISCERNMENT THAT SEES THROUGH ANY UNCLEAR SITUATIONS AND HUMILITY THAT'S FOR THE GREATER GOOD. WHERE THERE IS DISAGREEMENT, BRING CLARITY AND UNITY. MAY THE SPEECH IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY REFLECT THE GRACE AND COMPASSION THAT YOU HAVE TOWARDS US EACH AND EVERY DAY. MAY THE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DELIBERATED HERE TODAY, LORD, BE IN YOUR PERFECT TIMING FOR THE GOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY AND ULTIMATELY FOR YOUR HONOR AND FOR YOUR GLORY, FATHER GOD. WE PRAY, FATHER, THAT THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE HERE TODAY ULTIMATELY LEAD TOWARDS PEACE, FATHER, AND PROGRESS FOR ALL. AND WE ASK THIS IN JESUS' MIGHTY AND HOLY NAME, AMEN. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PASTOR. OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS FLAG WILL BE LED BY SOPHIA ALONSO CANTU. SHE IS A SENIOR AT ROY MILLER HIGH SCHOOL. SHE'S A TOP ACADEMIC STUDENT, PLAYS BOTH THE DRUMS AND THE PIANO. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] PLEASE JOIN ME IN HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG. [HONORING THE TEXAS FLAG] >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, SOPHIA. GOOD LUCK IN YOUR STUDIES. MS. HUERTA, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? [ROLL CALL] >> City Secretary: MAYOR AND COUNCIL, A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL AND THE REQUIRED CHARTER OFFICERS ARE PRESENT TO CONDUCT THE MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. HUERTA. THAT WILL TAKE US TO SECTION E, OUR CITY MANAGER'S COMMENTS AND UPDATE ON CITY OPERATIONS. MR. ZANONI. >> Zanoni: GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE A CAPTIONED ITEM TO TALK ABOUT. AN AWARD THAT OUR CORPUS CHRISTI WATER TEAM RECENTLY RECEIVED. BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY TEAM IN PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS COLD FRONT THAT CAME THROUGH. I THINK IT'S WARMING UP A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE. OVER THE PAST FOUR DAYS THE CITY HAS PROVIDED TREMENDOUS SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, CHIEF WADE, CHIEF MARKLE, JACE JOHNSON. AND THEN OVER 250 CITY EMPLOYEES WHO DON'T DO THIS FOR A LIVING. WHAT WE DID OVER THE PAST FOUR DAYS. SO THEY STEPPED UP. THEY WORKED OVERNIGHT. THEY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO TO H-E-B, LIKE WE ALL DID, BECAUSE THEY WERE HELPING THE COMMUNITY. SO IN ADDITION TO THE REFUGE CENTERS, OUR CITY TEAMS PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO ANIMAL CARE OPERATIONS, TO OUR SENIORS, MAKING SURE THEY HAD FOOD AND WE DID SEVERAL WELFARE CHECKS ON SENIORS. WE MADE SURE WE HAD WATER SECURITY AND SECURITY IN ELECTRICITY AND NATURAL GAS. THOSE ARE JUST A FEW. I'M SURE THERE'S MANY OTHER SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDED. SOME SMALL, SOME BIG. BUT IN TERMS OF THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTERS, WE PUT OUR PLANS INTO MOTION LAST WEDNESDAY, AFTER IT WAS PRETTY CERTAIN FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE THAT WE WOULD, IN FACT, BE IN SOME DEEP FREEZE CONDITIONS FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW. THIS TIME WE OPENED OUR BEN GARZA GYM AS A REFUGE CENTER, WHICH WAS VERY POPULAR. AND WE WANT TO THANK DEL MAR COLLEGE. THEY LET US USE THE DEL MAR FEMA DOME AT THE HERITAGE CAMPUS OFF OF OLD BROWNSVILLE. THE REFUGE CENTER WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN AT 5:00 BUT THERE WERE LINES OF FOLKS SO WE OPENED THEM UP AT 3:00. THEY STAYED CONTINUALLY OPEN THROUGH NOON TODAY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THEM DOWN FOR THIS EVENT AT NOON TODAY WITH SOME LUNCH TO GO FOR THE PATRONS THAT ARE THERE. WE ALSO PROVIDED PET CARE. SO AT ONE POINT WE HAD TEN DOGS AT THE TWO LOCATIONS AND TWO CATS AS WELL THAT WE TOOK CARE OF. AND, AGAIN, THOSE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES. MANY OF WHOM ARE BACK AT THEIR REGULAR JOBS. WE REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM. OVER 200 EMPLOYEES PROVIDED WORK THAT THEY TRADITIONALLY DON'T DO, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. WE COULDN'T DO IT ALONE SO WE HAD 16 PARTNER AGENCIES AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THEM BECAUSE THEY OFTEN DON'T GET HIGHLIGHTED OR RECOGNIZED. I ALREADY MENTIONED DEL MAR COLLEGE. WE WANT TO THANK THEM. THEY HAD THEIR CLEANING CREW THERE AT THE COLLEGE. WE DIDN'T ASK THEM TO DO THAT, SO THAT WAS NICE. THEY GAVE US THE FACILITY. PLUS THEY HAD CLEANING CREWS THAT NORMALLY SERVICE THE CAMPUS WERE THERE HELPING US. THE GOOD SAMARITAN RESCUE MISSION, OF COURSE. THE SALVATION ARMY. MOTHER TERESA. METRO MINISTRIES. DISMAS RECOVERY CENTER HELPED US WITH SHOWER SERVICE. THE FREE STORE. I DON'T KNOW IF MARY ELENA GARZA IS HERE. YEP. THEY PROVIDED FREE CLOTHING AND FOOD AT EACH OF THE CENTERS. WE WANT TO THANK MARY ELENA. THE RTA, OF COURSE, THEIR TRANSPORTATION WAS PERFECT THIS TIME AROUND. ALMOST RIGHT AT THE DOOR DROPOFF SERVICE. AEP TEXAS WAS A PARTNER, MAKING SURE POWER STAYED AS A PRIORITY AT THESE REFUGE CENTERS AND REALLY ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WE WANT TO THANK THEM. OUR COASTAL BEND HUMANE SOCIETY HELPED US WITH THE PET POPULATION. TWO AGENCIES HELPED US WITH ADDITIONAL FOOD. THEY VOLUNTEERED. WE DIDN'T ASK THEM BUT THEIR NAMES ARE FEED THE SHEEP AND THEN THIS IS A LONG NAME HERE. BUT ROYAL SOVEREIGN IMPERIAL COURT OF THE TEXAS EMPIRE. LAREDO TACO COMPANY HELPED US WITH TACOS FOR ONE OF THE MORNINGS. AND THE COASTAL BEND FOOD BANK AND OF COURSE H-E-B, WITHOUT EVEN ASKING, HELPED US WITH WATER AND OTHER SUPPLIES . WE WANT TO THANK H-E-B. OUR TWO REFUGE CENTERS WERE OPENED SATURDAY, SUNDAY, MONDAY, AND THEN THEY CLOSE MID-DAY TODAY. AT THIS TIME WE PUT TOGETHER A SHORT VIDEO JUST TO RECAP EVERYTHING. WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THAT NOW AND WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL. [ VIDEO ] >> DURING THE RECENT COLD FRONT IMPACTING SOUTH TEXAS, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH FOR THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA WITH CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO BRING SIGNIFICANTLY COLDER TEMPERATURES AND DANGEROUS WINDCHILL VALUES OVERNIGHT. AS COLDER WEATHER APPROACHED, RESIDENTS WERE URGED TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS AND TO REMAIN INFORMED THROUGH LOCAL WEATHER UPDATES AND GUIDANCE FROM CITY AND EMERGENCY OFFICIALS. OVERNIGHT, REFUGE CENTERS OPENED AT BEN GARZA GYM AND THE DEL MAR COLLEGE WINWARD CAMPUS FEMA DOME. >> WE HAVE COLD WEATHER REFUGE SET UP AT THE BEN GARZA GYM AND AT THE FEMA DOME JUST TO KIND OF HELP OUT AND KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THIS HORRIBLE WEATHER. >> THESE LOCATIONS PROVIDED WARM, INDOOR SHELTER, MEALS, SLEEPING AND BATHING ACCOMMODATIONS TRANSPORTATION ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE CORPUS CHRISTI REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND ACCOMMODATION FOR PETS. ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS COORDINATED EFFORTS TO ENSURE EACH LOCATION WAS SECURED, STAFFED, EQUIPPED, AND OPERATIONAL THROUGHOUT THE COLD WEATHER EVENT. >> ESSENTIALLY ANY STOP THEY GET ON, THEY NEED TO LET FOLKS KNOW THEY WANT TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY REFUGE CENTER AND THE BUS DRIVERS WILL ENSURE THEY GET TO THE RIGHT LOCATIONS. THE MAIN LOCATION IS FROM THE SOUTH STAPLES STREET CENTER TO HERE. >> THESE EMERGENCY SHELTER OPERATIONS REQUIRE COORDINATION ACROSS OUR ENTIRE CITY. A CITY TEAM OF SEVERAL DOZEN LEADERS HAVE BEEN WORKING ALL WEEK TO PREPARE FOR THE TWO SHELTER OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE. IN ALL, IT WILL TAKE OVER 300 EMPLOYEES JUST TO OPERATE THE TWO CENTERS FROM TODAY, SATURDAY, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TUESDAY AFTERNOON. THESE EMPLOYEES DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS AND SO THIS IS EXTRA WORK THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN. THEY'RE GIVING UP THEIR WEEKENDS. THEY ARE GIVING TIME TO US AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES TO CARE FOR THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEED HELP. >> IN ADDITION, THE CITY'S PARTNER, THE GOOD SAMARITAN RESCUE MISSION, OPERATED CONTINUOUSLY. MULTIPLE DAYTIME WARMING CENTERS WERE ALSO MADE AVAILABLE AT CITY LIBRARIES AND SENIOR CENTERS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. >> WE'RE A CITY-RUN STAFF. WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT. >> CLEAR AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH NEWS RELEASES, THE CITY WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA, 311 SERVICES, AND PARTNER AGENCIES. THROUGH THESE COORDINATED EFFORTS, THIS CITY WAS ABLE TO ASSIST 100 INDIVIDUALS AT THE DEL MAR FEMA DOME. 115 INDIVIDUALS AT THE BEN GARZA GYM AND WAS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ABOUT TEN PETS TOTAL. FOR THE WARMING SHELTERS, APPROXIMATELY 20 INDIVIDUALS ON AVERAGE WERE SUPPORTED WITH A WARM SPACE TO STAY. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI REMAINS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND ENSURING RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES DURING SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WANTS TO THANK ITS EMPLOYEES AND PARTNER AGENCIES FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND THE COMMITMENT TO THEIR COMMUNITY. >> WE APPRECIATE THEM. I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THEM. WE'LL BE DOING MORE TO THANK THEM AS WELL BUT THIS IS TREMENDOUS. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THIS IS WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, THROUGH THE ORGANIZATION, THROUGH ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS COMING TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THIS INVALUABLE SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. [END OF VIDEO] >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S A GREAT VIDEO. >> Zanoni: I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM. THEY CAME OUT IN THE COLD TO HIGHLIGHT IT AS WELL. >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S A GREAT VIDEO, PETER. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID IT ALL. BUT OUR TEAM, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED IN, AND EVERYONE STEPPED UP. I SPOKE IN LENGTH TO -- I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE. I THOUGHT IT WAS PARKS AND REC AND, YOU KNOW, THE ONE YOUNG MAN, HE'S IN FINANCE. AND HE SAID, YEAH, I WORK IN FINANCE. I THOUGHT, WOW! HE'S VOLUNTEERING TO DO THIS. AND I JUST THINK IT WAS AN AMAZING EFFORT. THESE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS. BUT WHEN YOU'RE THERE AND YOU RECOGNIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED SOMEWHERE TO BE AND SOMEWHERE TO GO, IT'S HEARTWRENCHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE YOU WERE CONSTANTLY ON PHONE CALLS, WHETHER CALLS. I MEAN, I WAS ON THEM WITH YOU BUT YOU WERE ON MORE THAN I WAS. SO THANK YOU, PETER. BECAUSE THIS TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION. IT ISN'T JUST OUR TEAM, AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S SO MANY PARTNERS AND WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT THEM. IT'S ABOUT TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S JUST ABOUT TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE. VERY, VERY PROUD OF OUR CITY TEAM. I HOPE THEY'RE ALL LISTENING. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. OF COURSE OUR POLICE AND FIRE, CHIEF WADE AND CHIEF MARKLE WERE BOTH ON IT AND ALL OF YOUR PERSONNEL. IT'S AN AMAZING EFFORT. SO PROUD OF OUR TEAM. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: PETER, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GO OUT YESTERDAY. SHORT WINDOW, RIGHT? I HOPE I STAYED OUT OF THE WAY. WHAT I SAW WAS THE BEST OF US. IT WAS AMAZING. I SAW PEOPLE FROM HR, FINANCE. BY THE WAY, ROBERT DODD, PERFECT. THIS MOUNTAIN OF A MAN STEPPING UP TO SOME OF OUR CLIENTS, GENTLY PUTTING A HAND ON THE SHOULDER. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU, RIGHT? IT WAS AMAZING. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES. YOU'RE MEDICATIONS. THANK YOU TO OUR EMPLOYEES. I DON'T KNOW WHY -- IT WAS EMOTIONAL BECAUSE IT'S AMAZING. IT'S JUST PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE. IT WASN'T POLITICS. IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, GETTING PAID. THESE ARE PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE. I WILL TELL YOU THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE EXPERIENCE, FOR ME, WAS THE CLIENT WHO HAD A CAT ON A LEASH. THAT PERSON NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN MANAGE A CAT ON A LEASH, I WANT YOU TO COME TRAIN ALL OF MY ANIMALS. I THOUGHT THE ANIMALS WERE GREAT, THE CLIENTS WERE GREAT. OUR EMPLOYEES WERE GREAT. JUST THANK YOU. THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. PETER, THANK YOU. AND FOR LEADING THE STAFF WITH THESE INITIATIVES. THEY'RE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. I DO RECOGNIZE, AS I THINK OUR TEAMS DID, THAT THIS WAS MORE THAN A COLD SNAP. THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS PERIOD OF TIME. AND THE LIVES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TOUCH THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF OUR TEAM, MAKING THIS A PRIORITY, IT'S THAT MANY MORE THAT ARE HERE TODAY. AND SO THANK YOU AND OUR STAFF, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, FOR MAKING THIS A PRIORITY AND TAKING CARE OF SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS. I DID ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF OUR FIRST RESPONDER TEAMS, SPECIFICALLY IN COORDINATION WITH OUR SUBSTATION IN FLOUR BLUFF. WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO HELP SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OUT THERE. AND I KNOW THAT UNDER LIEUTENANT HARRISON'S LEADERSHIP, HE HAS HAD TEAMS GOING OUT CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE STORM, CHECKING ON PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, DOING WELLNESS CHECKS, SEEING IF HE CAN OFFER RIDES TO THE STATIONS. THOSE, I SINCERELY BELIEVE, MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND I'M SO THANKFUL TO THE TEAMS FOR THAT. TO CHIEF WADE FOR TAKING THE CALL AND BEING WILLING TO STAND UP ANOTHER FIVE LOCATIONS FOR WARMING STATIONS DURING THE DAY ON SUNDAY, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE COLDEST DAYS. AND I KNOW THAT COMES AT A COST BUT FOR TAKING THE CALL AND MAKING IT A REALITY. SO THANK YOU, TEAMS. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP SO I'M GLAD WE'RE EXPERTS NOW AT THIS. BUT, REALLY, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DID. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ALSO WANT TO ECHO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARING HERE. IT ALSO HAPPENED TO BE JUST THE DAY BEFORE OR MAYBE TWO DAYS BEFORE THE PIT COUNT WHERE WE COUNT THE HOMELESS. AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO REACH OUT TO ALL THOSE VOLUNTEERS THAT TOOK THE TIME. I REALLY DID WANT TO PARTICIPATE BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT I TELL YOU WHAT. YEAH, I HAVE TO GIVE IT OUT TO JACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LEARNED WHAT HAPPENED FROM THE FIRST TIME. AND EACH TIME I THINK WE'RE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND BETTER. SO I DIDN'T HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS FROM NOWHERE. I WILL ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT AS I WAS GOING -- IT WAS EARLY SUNDAY MORNING, THERE WAS A HOMELESS PERSON SITTING ON THE BENCH. IT'S RIGHT THERE. WE SORT OF KNOW WHO HE IS. I HESITATED FIRST TO CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THE POLICE TO COME. BUT THEN I DID WANT HIM TO GET SOME HELP. I ENDED UP CALLING AND I HUNG UP TO CHIEF. WITHIN HALF A SECOND HE CALLED ME BACK. HE SAID, DID YOU MEAN TO CALL ME? HONESTLY, I'M SO GLAD HE DID. HE SAYS, COUNCILWOMAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE HIM TO JAIL. AND SURE ENOUGH, I KNEW THAT. I KNEW IN MY HEART. BUT, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE POLICE AND TO EVERYONE ELSE. THE WHOLE STAFF, THE PEOPLE. I THINK YOU MENTIONED 200 PEOPLE OR 300? >> Zanoni: THE HIGH COUNT IS PROBABLY ABOUT 300 WHEN YOU PUT EVERYBODY IN. IT WAS OVER 225 JUST FOR THE OPERATIONS ON THE FRONT-LINE STAFF. BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THE CHIEF WHO AREN'T INCLUDED. IT WAS PROBABLY 300 PEOPLE. >> Campos: THAT VIDEO DOES HELP BECAUSE WE GET TO SEE SOME OF THE FACES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI, AND TO ALL YOU HARD-WORKING PEOPLE. WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: WELL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER. YOU'RE STRONGER WHEN YOU WORK TOGETHER. WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT IN EVERYTHING WE DO IN THIS CITY. I LOVE THE VIDEO. IT WAS AWESOME. WE NEED TO DO THAT MORE SO THE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. I THINK, COUNCILMAN SCOTT, THE REASON IT'S EMOTIONAL IS BECAUSE WE FORGET HOW BLESSED WE ARE EVERY DAY AND THERE ARE SO MANY UNFORTUNATE THAT DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO. THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, CHIEF, FIRE, EVERYTHING YOU DID. YOUR STAFF SHOULD BE COMMENDED BECAUSE IT WAS COLD. I SAW SOME WERE SITTING OUTSIDE SO THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND. THANK YOU, MR. ZANONI. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, PETER, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. YOU KEPT US UP TO DATE THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND. I THINK YOU TEXTED MORE THAN MY GIRLFRIEND DID OVER THE WEEKEND. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US UP TO DATE. THIS IS WAY BETTER THAN THE FIRST TIME AROUND LAST YEAR. I THINK WE WERE VERY ORGANIZED. THANK YOU FOR THE CITY STAFF, OUR PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY OUR CCPD CCFD. THANK YOU, GUYS. I'M SURE YOU GUYS DID A LOT FOR US. AND RTA FOR PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE SHELTERS. AND I HOPE WE LEARN FROM THIS ONE TO MAKE THE NEXT ONE BETTER. THANK YOU, AGAIN. APPRECIATE IT. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: CAN I ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING? TODAY IS COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS' BIRTHDAY. I WANT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: HAPPY BIRTHDAY SYLVIA. [APPLAUSE] >> Zanoni: THANK YOU. AND THEN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ONE OTHER ITEM WE WANT TO DO HERE. I'M GOING TO HAVE THE CCW STAFF COME UP HERE WITH ME. THIS NEXT ITEM IS TO HIGHLIGHT NOT ONLY THESE SEVEN FOLKS BEHIND ME HERE, BUT THE ENTIRE TEAM THAT'S AT OUR O.N. STEVENS WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND SO RECENTLY THE CITY, CORPUS CHRISTI WATER AND THE TEAM WERE AWARDED THE T.O.P. AWARD. IT'S A RECOGNITION BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. AND T.O.P. IS A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY TCEQ THAT REQUIRES -- THAT RECOGNIZES PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS THAT ARE IMPROVING THEIR PERFORMANCE OF SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS. IT HIGHLIGHTS GREAT PERFORMANCE, THIS T.O.P. AWARD. CRITERIA INCLUDE TESTING THAT EXCEEDS STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS, WATER TESTING THAT EXCEEDS FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS. STRICTER MONITORING AND TREATMENT LIMITS ALONG WITH SPECIAL REPORTING THAT MUST BE SUBMITTED TO TCEQ ONCE A MONTH. EXTRA WORK GOES IN PLACE. YOU MAY KNOW THAT WE'RE ALREADY A SUPERIOR-RATED WATER SYSTEM. THIS IS ON TOP OF THAT. THIS T.O.P. AWARD. NOW, HERE'S A KEY THING THAT THEY TOLD ME WHEN I WAS OUT THERE TOURING RECENTLY IS YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT FOR 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, NONSTOP. SO ONE LITTLE MISHAP, YOU HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. WE WERE MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T DO THAT, SO 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF MEETING THIS CRITERIA. EARLIER THIS MONTH, O.N. STEVENS WATER TREATMENT PLANT RECEIVED THE AWARD BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORKING, DEDICATED STAFF. ADDITIONALLY, WE NEED TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING IN O.N. STEVENS THAT WEREN'T ALWAYS BEING ON SCHEDULE, THESE INVESTMENTS ARE MAKING THIS POSSIBLE. AND SO JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN $86 MILLION RAW WATER EFFLUENT AND CHEMICAL FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT AT THE PLANT. $100MILLION CHLORINE SYSTEM AT THE PLANT. $35MILLION FOR A BRAND-NEW CLEAR WELL WHERE THE WATER IS PUT AFTER IT'S TREATED AND READY TO GO. SO THESE ARE JUST A FEW. OTHERS INCLUDE A FILTRATION HYDRAULIC IMPROVEMENTS. NUECES RIVER, 54-INCH MAIN INTO THE PLANT ITSELF. THAT'S A BIG PROJECT UNDERWAY. RIVER PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS, AND AN ADDITIONAL SEDIMENTATION-BASED IMPROVEMENTS. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE TREMENDOUS INVESTMENTS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL'S LEADERSHIP AT O.N. STEVENS. PRIOR TO SEVEN YEARS AGO WE COULDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT AND SO WE'RE PROUD TO DO THAT. THAT HELPED NOT ONLY WITH THE DEDICATED AND TALENTED TEAM BUT THE INVESTMENTS IN CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE HELPED GET THAT AWARD. AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE STAFF WHO IS HERE WITH ME. THE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS HERE. NICK TELLS ME THIS IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT. THERE'S ABOUT 40 BACK AT THE PLANT RUNNING THE OPERATIONS. THEY ALL COULDN'T BE HERE BUT THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHO ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING THIS AWARD POSSIBLE. RONNIE GARZA, MAINTENANCE FOREMAN. RONNIE HAS NINE YEARS WITH THE CITY. ALL THESE FOLKS UP HERE HAVE ALMOST TEN YEARS EACH, SOME EVEN MORE. VICTORIA D'ANDREA -- SORRY, VICTOR. SORRY VICTOR. VICTOR DEANDA. HE DEALS WITH ALL THE INSTRUMENTATION AND THE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS. EZRA SOTO, WORK COORDINATOR. WE HAVE OSCAR BUNUELOS, SENIOR PLANT OPERATOR. JIM BOHANAN. AND THEN WE HAVE JENNIFER CLEATES. JENNIFER HAS BEEN HERE NINE. SHE'S THE ASSISTANT TO WILLIAM. WILLIAM IS THE PLANT MANAGER IN CHARGE OF THE PLANT UP THERE. HE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY 14 YEARS. TREMENDOUS WORK BY THE TEAM HERE. WE WANT TO THANK THEM. I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THEM. I KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL DOES AND WILL SAY SOME COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER VIDEO THAT WE WANT TO SHOW HERE OF THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AND HIGHLIGHTS WHAT I JUST WENT OVER. [ VIDEO ] >> THE O.N. STEVENS WATER TREATMENT PLANT IS A CRITICAL PART OF THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S WATER SYSTEM. RESPONSIBLE FOR TREATING RAW SURFACE WATER AND DELIVERING SAFE, HIGH-QUALITY DRINKING WATER TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES EVERY DAY. THIS FACILITY USES ADVANCED TREATMENT PROCESSES THAT MEET AND EXCEED STATE AND FEDERAL DRINKING WATER STANDARDS. RECENT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE STRENGTHENED SYSTEM RELIABILITY AND EFFICIENCY, INCLUDING UPGRADES TO FILTRATION EQUIPMENT AND CONTROLS AND EXPANDED REALTIME MONITORING AND TESTING CAPABILITIES. HIGHLY-TRAINED AND CERTIFIED WATER TREATMENT OPERATORS AND TECHNICAL STAFF OVERSEE PLANT OPERATIONS AROUND THE CLOCK. CONTINUOUS SAMPLING, LABORATORY ANALYSIS, AND PERFORMANCE MONITORING ENSURE WATER QUALITY REMAINS CONSISTENT AND COMPLIANT WHILE PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH. IN RECOGNITION OF THIS HIGH LEVEL OF OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY HAS AWARDED THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S O.N. STEVENS WATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH THE TEXAS OPTIMIZATION PROGRAM RECOGNITION AWARD. THIS DISTINCTION IS GIVEN TO FACILITIES THAT DEMONSTRATE EXCELLENCE IN TREATMENT PROCESSES AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. THIS RECOGNITION REFLECTS THE STRONG OPERATIONAL STANDARDS AND SCIENTIFIC EXPERTISE THAT GUIDE DAILY OPERATIONS AT THE O.N. STEVENS FACILITY. THIS AWARD HIGHLIGHTS THE TECHNICAL SKILL AND DISCIPLINE REQUIRED TO OPERATE A FACILITY OF THIS SCALE. THE CITY THANKS THE O.N. STEVENS TEAM FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, FOR PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY'S WATER SUPPLY. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI CONGRATULATES THE O.N. STEVENS WATER PLANT TEAM ON THIS ACHIEVEMENT AND REMAINS COMMITTED TO INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND ADVANCED OPERATIONS TO ENSURE A RELIABLE AND SAFE WATER SUPPLY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. [END OF VIDEO] >> Zanoni: CONGRATULATIONS, YOU GUYS. [APPLAUSE] THAT'S IT, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU. I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL. WHAT YOU DO IS CRITICAL. EXTREMELY CRITICAL. TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU, PETER FOR MAKING THAT -- OR HAVING THE VIDEO MADE. THANK YOU TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR MAKING IT GREAT. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU AND I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE BEFORE US ALL. THANK YOU. THAT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AS WELL. HAVE A SEAT. THANK YOU AS WELL. I MEAN, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, YOU'RE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. I KNOW THAT TERM IS USED AD NAUSEAM BUT I KNOW A DECADE AGO THERE WAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND NOW TO COME TO -- TO HAVE THIS EXEMPLARY STATUS, I CAN TELL YOU WE'RE VERY PROUD. I'M JUST A TALKING HEAD ON TV AND YOU GUYS, WHEN NOBODY CALLS, YOU KNOW, FOR COMPLAINING AND YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, THAT JUST MEANS THAT YOUR TEAM IS DOING WELL AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF -- FOR YOU TO GET THIS RECOGNITION. BECAUSE YOU'RE THE SILENT TEAM THAT'S OUT THERE. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: I THOUGHT ONE OF THE HUMOROUS THINGS THIS WEEKEND WAS THE TEXT WE GOT FROM YOUR CITY MANAGER. I'M GOING TO READ IT TO YOU. THERE WERE ISSUES AT ONS LAST NIGHT. EVERYTHING OPERATING WITHOUT ISSUE. ISN'T TRUE OF MARY RHODES. I'M LIKE, THERE WERE ISSUES? THEN IMMEDIATELY WE GET ANOTHER TEXT. THERE WERE NO ISSUES AT O.N. STEVENS. I WONDER IF HE SAW IT OR SOMEBODY WENT, HEY. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID DURING THE INCLEMENT WEATHER. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. I THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: THAT'S A FUN NOTE, MARK. THAT WAS FUNNY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO REALLY QUICKLY SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR DEDICATION. IT'S AN INCREDIBLE FEELING TO SIT HERE AND SEE THE YEARS OF EXPERTISE SITTING IN FRONT OF US WHO SO DILIGENTLY CARE FOR THIS CITY. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU HOW VITAL THAT FACILITY IS TO ALL OF US. AND YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN REST WITH CONFIDENCE. THAT NOT ONLY IS IT CARING FOR OUR CITY, BUT IT'S EARNING RECOGNITION FOR HOW WELL IT DOES THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO. TRULY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, PETER. SO THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REPORT? >> Zanoni: YES, IT DOES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'RE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. IT IS 12:00. SO, AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO CITY HALL. EFFECTIVE TODAY, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CHANGED PUBLIC COMMENT PROCEDURES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUMMARIZE THEM AS FOLLOWS. ON JANUARY 13th OF 2026, THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED A MOTION TO REQUIRE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO BEGIN AT 12:00 NOON AND ALLOW ALL IN-PERSON REGISTERED SPEAKERS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, REGARDLESS OF RESIDENCY, EFFECTIVE TODAY, JANUARY 27, 2026. CITIZENS MAY SPEAK ON AGENDA OR CITY-RELATED ITEMS DURING THE NON-PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. FOR NOON PUBLIC COMMENT, CITIZENS CAN REGISTER THROUGH THE SIGN-IN PAGE OR THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR IN PERSON AT THE KIOSK LOCATED RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOORS HERE IN CITY HALL. REGISTRATION BEGINS EVERY WEEK ON MONDAYS AT 8:00 A.M. AND ENDS ON TUESDAY AT 11:00 A.M. WHEN THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SPEAKERS MAY ADDRESS AN AGENDA ITEM ONCE DURING THE MEETING, EITHER AT THE NOON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION OR DURING THE CONSIDERATION OF THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM. FOR CALL-IN OR WEBEX VIDEO SPEAKERS, CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENTS WILL RECEIVE UP TO THREE MINUTES AND NON-RESIDENTS UP TO ONE. THAT DIDN'T CHANGE. ALL SPEAKERS, WHETHER DELIVERING INFORMATION ORALLY OR IN WRITING OR ELECTRONICALLY, MUST ADHERE TO THE RULES OF DECORUM. SO AS WE BEGIN TODAY'S MEETING, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS THOSE RULES OF DECORUM. THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS A PLACE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS, A FORUM FOR CIVIC DISCUSSION, DECISION MAKING, AND SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY. IT IS NOT A STAGE FOR PERSONAL ATTACKS, FOR DISRUPTIONS, AND ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR VULGARITY. WE WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATIONS OF THE DECORUM. SO WE'RE HERE TO DO THE PEOPLE'S WORK. LET'S PROCEED IN THAT SPIRIT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC ITEM DURING ITS DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT NEED TO SIGN UP, AS WAS JUST EXPLAINED. I WILL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS THE ITEM. AT THAT TIME YOU MAY COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK. NOW I'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, MILES RISLEY, TO REVIEW THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF DECORUM, WHICH WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE TELEVISION SCREENS ABOVE. [RULES OF DECORUM] >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MILES. SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE CITY IN WHICH YOU LIVE BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR COMMENTS. IN-PERSON COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. FOR CALL-IN OR WEBEX VIDEO SPEAKERS, CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENTS WILL RECEIVE UP TO THREE MINUTES. NON-RESIDENTS, ONE MINUTE. A TIMER POSITIONED NEAR THE CITY SECRETARY'S DESK WILL HELP MANAGE THE ALLOTTED TIME. IF YOU HAVE A PETITION OR RELEVANT INFORMATION, HAND IT TO OUR CITY SECRETARY BEFORE SPEAKING AND SHE WILL RELAY IT TO US. WITH THAT, WE WILL START. TODAY WE HAVE ABOUT 18 TOTAL. THAT INCLUDES WEBEX. >> Paxson: I THINK THEY CHANGED SO IF THEY'RE IN PERSON, IN DISTRICT OR OUT, WE GET THREE MINUTES. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH. >> Paxson: I THINK WE READ IT THAT IT WAS ONE MINUTE OUT OF DISTRICT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE MEANT OUT OF STATE IS ONE MINUTE. ANY RESIDENTS, YEAH, IS THREE MINUTES. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH JACKIE McCOLLOUGH. IS JACKIE McCOLLOUGH HERE? BRADLEY BARTLESON. >> ROD BARTLESON, DISTRICT 5. GOOD MORNING. I HAD A PRESENTATION. >> City Secretary: I'M SORRY, MR. BARTLESON, YOUR PRESENTATION IS NOT READY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WASN'T SUBMITTED BY THE DEADLINE SO WE CAN'T SHOW IT. >> OKAY. I'LL SPEAK TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO PRESENT THEM. I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO ASKING YOU TO FOCUS MORE ON COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THESE MAJOR DECISIONS SUCH AS WATER. I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PUBLIC OPINION DOMAIN. AND COMING FROM THE TECH SECTOR, WE MAKE THINGS MORE BASED UPON WHAT THAN WHO. I THINK THIS KIND OF BRINGS EVERYTHING, TO A POINT, COALESCING THE IMPORTANCE OF ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS, FINANCIAL, AND PHYSICS TOGETHER. PREVIOUSLY, ALONG THOSE LINES, I PRESENTED SOME COMPARISONS OF WATER THAT COMES FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. THE LOWEST COST SOURCE WE HAVE EXISTED ON FOR A LONG TIME HAS BEEN SURFACE WATER. THERE'S MORE OF THOSE TO BE HAD. BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE EVALUATING THOSE AND COST BENEFIT, WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE STRATEGY. I PRESENTED THAT BEFORE. I WOULD CHARACTERIZE A LOT OF WHAT GOT US HERE IS REACTIONARY. I THINK THAT WITH MORE STRATEGIC WORK ON A PLAN GOING FORWARD WHERE WE HAVE SURPLUS AND WE FALL BENEATH THAT MARGIN, WE START TAKING OTHER ACTIONS. TALKING WITH OTHER EXPERTS, 2017, 2018, WE STARTED SEEING WE GOT TROUBLE. SOME OF THOSE ACTIONS COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN BEFORE. I KNOW IT'S 20/20 HINDSIGHT BUT WE CAN DO BETTER. I THINK HAVING THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AHEAD OF TIME WITH THE SURPLUS MAKES SENSE. THE RESERVOIRS MAKES SENSE. TOWARDS THE RESERVOIRS, I HAVE OFFERED UP THE EVAP CONTROL THAT EVERYBODY WINS. I HEARD DISCUSSIONS RECENTLY ABOUT WE HOPE THE RESERVOIRS RETURN TO THEIR LEVELS. BUT IF WE'RE EVAPORATING 51 MILLIONS GALLONS A DAY OFF OF IT, THAT'S TOUGH TO MAKE HEADWAY. THIS IS A NO-COST, EVERYBODY WINS PROPOSAL AND THE CITY DOESN'T NEED TO ACTUALLY DO A LOT OF THE WORK ON THAT. IT'S OUTSIDE CONTRACT. THE NEXT SLIDE I HAD WAS SHOWING OUR UNTAPPED SURFACE WATERS GOING NORTH. I PRESENTED TO YOU ABOUT 65 MILLION GALLONS A DAY JUST GOING OUT TO THE GULF FROM PEAK FLOWS. JUST PEAK FLOWS OUT OF GUADALUPE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE TO AVERT THE FLOODING. THIS WORKS TOGETHER. CAPTURING THE PEAK FLOWS DOESN'T STOP THE FLOW. THIS IS KIND OF WASTED FLOW THAT WE COULD CAPTURE AND IT'S THERE TODAY. I'VE HEARD IT PRESENTED THAT THE REASON WE DIDN'T TAP INTO GUADALUPE WITH THE MARY RHODES PIPELINE, WHICH IS RUNNING RIGHT OVER IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE 20 YEARS AGO DEBATES ABOUT THIS AND WEREN'T ABLE TO GET WATER RIGHTS. I HAVE TWO SECONDS LEFT AND I'LL STOP FOR TODAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. BARTLESON. JASON HALE. >> JASON HALE, CORPUS CHRISTI. HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS. TODAY I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE DROUGHT SURCHARGE EXEMPTION FEE PROGRAM AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF STAGE 3 DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS. SO RECENTLY, THE WATER USE DATA FOR 2025 WAS PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. WHAT'S UP HERE RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE WHOLE YEAR OF 2025 WAS IN STAGE 3 DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, WHICH MAKES COMPARISONS WITH NON-DROUGHT YEARS EASY. SO THE TARGET REDUCTION FOR STAGE 3 IS 30% REDUCTION OF WATER USE. LAST YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A 5% REDUCTION IN WATER USE. CONSERVATION IS NOT EASY. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. MOST OF THOSE REDUCTIONS CAME FROM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USERS USING ABOUT 12 TO 16% LESS WATER IN 2025 THAN THEY DID IN 2023. LARGE USERS USED ABOUT 2% LESS THAN THEY DID IN 2023. SO ONE TAKEAWAY I HAVE FROM THIS IS THAT LARGE-VOLUME USERS HAVE SOME OF THE LEAST FLEXIBLE DEMANDS OUT OF ALL OF OUR USER GROUPS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT LA REDUCTIONS IN LARGE-VOLUME USE IS UNDESIRABLE. I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT AS LONG AS OUR DROUGHT POLICIES ARE CRAFTED TO BE IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK THE BENEFIT OF EXEMPTION FEES OVER SURCHARGES HAS BEEN REASONABLY DEMONSTRATED. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LAST YEAR WE HAD A $16 MILLION SHORTFALL IN WATER REVENUES DUE TO CONSERVATION. AND WE HAD TO RAISE WATER RATES, EVEN THOUGH RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL USERS CUT BACK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SURCHARGES IS THAT PROVIDES A SOURCE OF REVENUE THAT CAN OFFSET THAT DECLINE IN WATER REVENUE. ANOTHER ADVANTAGE OF SURCHARGES IS THAT IT IS A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO CONSERVE WATER. RIGHT NOW WE'RE SLATED TO HAVE A SUPPLY THAT DOESN'T MEET DEMAND IN APRIL OF 2027. IF SURCHARGES INCENTIVIZED CONSERVATION FOR OUR LARGEST USERS, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD THAT ADD TO OUR TIMELINE? IF THAT COULD GET US TO SEPTEMBER OF 2027, THAT WOULD BE A BIG DEAL SINCE THAT'S OUR BIGGEST TIME FOR RAIN. ANYWAYS, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE BUT WHISKEY IS FOR FIGHTING -- WHAT IS IT? WATER IS FOR SHARING. WE SHARE THE GOOD, WE SHARE THE BAD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER POLICIES WE HAVE IN PLACE IS BEST FOR EVERYONE'S INTERESTS. THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. HALE. SUSIE SALDANA. >> SUSIE SALDANA, CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANTED TO COME AND TAKE A MINUTE TO TELL YOU HOW GRATEFUL THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI ARE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHAT THEY SUFFERED THIS TIME WAS TREMENDOUS AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH OUR POLICE OFFICERS. AND I WANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN MIND. THEY RUN TO THE PROBLEM AND THEY TAKE CARE OF IT. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAD SOME OF OUR OFFICERS HURT THIS TIME BUT OUR PRAYERS AND LOVE ARE WITH THEM. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS, FROM THE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU ALL KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM AND HOW MUCH WE CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. AND I WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK THEM AND TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THEY DO AND FOR EVERY DAY THEY GET UP AND GO PUT THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MS. SALDANA. WE APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT. CHIEF MARKLE, YES. WE WANT TO RELAY OUR SENTIMENT AND KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN OUR PRAYERS. THANK YOU. GREGORY MILLS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M GREGORY MILLS. I LIVE ON NORTH PADRE ISLAND AND REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE. REALLY WANT TO SHARE MY GRATITUDE TO YOU ALL FOR EXPEDITING THE SEAWALL REPAIR. IT'S A HUGE THING FOR OUR ISLAND. I TAUGHT MY SON HOW TO RIDE HIS BIKE ON THE SEAWALL, ALONG WITH MANY OF MY OTHER ISLAND FRIENDS. IT'S THE PLACE THAT MOST OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED HOW TO ROLLER SKATE, SKATEBOARD, AND RIDE BIKES. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER AND I OWN THE PACKERY SURF CAMP. I HAVE PARTNERED WITH GULF STREAM AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING PARTNERSHIP AND I HAVE A VERY HIGH-DEFINITION CAMERA THAT SITS ON TOP OF THE GULFSTREAM AND I'VE GOT A MAGNIFICENT VIEW OF THE PACKERY CHANNEL AND I CAN SEE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BOB HALL PIER. AND THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT ON THE CAM RUNS ABOUT 100,000 VIEWS PER MONTH. I LAUNCHED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. FROM AN ECONOMIC-DRIVER PERSPECTIVE, THE CAMERA IS PUTTING NORTH PADRE AND CORPUS CHRISTI ON THE MAP. AS SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, CORPUS CHRISTI WAS A WORLD-CLASS SURFING DESTINATION BACK IN THE '70s AND '80s. WE HAD PRO AM, PRO CONTESTS HERE. THE SURFING INDUSTRY IS JUST AS STRONG AS THE FISHING INDUSTRY. THAT, ITSELF, A TRAVELING SURFER, MY FAMILY AND I ALL SURF. I THINK THE MARKET FOR US TO TAP INTO IS THE TRAVELING SURFER MARKET. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT MY WEBSITE, IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE BECAUSE IT'S ALL TEXANS, FOR THE MOST PART. REALLY, FROM DALLAS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BROWNSVILLE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF MINUTES THAT THEY SPEND ON THE SITE REVIEWING THE LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT I HAVE ADVERTISING, BUT THE LIVE FEED, I'M GETTING A TON OF E-MAILS AND DMs ASKING ME WHERE IS THIS? THIS IS CORPUS CHRISTI? I'M LIKE, IT IS BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY -- THERE IS AN ISLAND HERE. AND SO JUST THROUGH MY OWN EFFORTS AND GULF STREAM'S EFFORTS, WE ARE REALLY CREATING SOMETHING VERY LARGE FOR THE HOT TAX, FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOR TOURS. YOU KNOW, THE VIEWERS TURN IN TO VISITORS AND THOSE VISITORS TURN INTO AN ECONOMIC BOOM FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND OUR LARGE BUSINESSES AND OUR AIRPORTS AND SUCH. AND IT'S AN EXCITING VENTURE TO BE INVOLVED IN. OUT OF MY OWN SELFISHNESS, I WAS, LIKE, IT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR TO GO AND CHECK OUT THE WAVES, EVEN WHEN YOU LIVE ON THE ISLAND. AND I'M LIKE, NOBODY HAS A WEBCAM, A PROPER WEBCAM WHERE YOU CAN PROPERLY CHECK OUT THE WAVES. ANYHOW, I MADE THE WEBCAM. I ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ASK YOU IF THERE'S ANY WAY WE CAN PARTNER. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: JERRY SINCLAIR. >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN, MADAME MAYOR, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. I HAVE THREE POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP. ONE HAS TO DO WITH APPRECIATION. ONE HAS TO DO WITH BENEFIT. AND THE OTHER ONE HAS TO DO WITH COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE -- AND I'M REPRESENTING THE -- >> City Secretary: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? >> JERRY SINCLAIR, DISTRICT 4. I'M SORRY. APOLOGIES. I'M REPRESENTING THE GULF STREAM. OUR COUNCIL OF CO-OWNERS, BUT I'M REPRESENTING THE 15 PROPERTIES WE ALONG THE SEAWALL AND THE OWNERS THAT ARE THERE WITH REGARDS TO THE SEAWALL. IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHILLY, AS GREG WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING, TO BE RIDING YOUR BIKE OR JOGGING, BUT THERE WERE PEOPLE DOING THAT. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE TIRZ 2 MEETING DID BEFORE IN APPROVING AND RECOMMENDING THE MONEY TO BE SPENT FOR THE SEAWALL. AND AS I TRANSITION FROM THAT APPRECIATION, I WANT TO GO INTO THE BENEFIT. AS WE LOOK AT THE SEAWALL, WHICH HASN'T HAD A LOT OF MAINTENANCE IN A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SIMILAR TO THE PACKERY CHANNEL, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE SEAWALL. SO IT BECOMES THAT PARTICULAR PLACE AND DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO BE THERE. LASTLY, I WANT TO COMMEND THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY, AS YOU HAVE SAID, AND HELPING PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD. WE DO THAT FOR EACH OTHER. THE GULF STREAM HAS PARTNERED WITH THE CAMERA TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT AS A DESTINATION. THE GULF STREAM WENT AND PUT A MURAL ON THE SIDE OF OUR SIX-STORY -- ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS THERE -- TO ATTRACT PEOPLE AND RESIDENTS TO COME OUT TO THE SEAWALL AND DO THAT. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TAXES, IT WAS MENTIONED, THE AD VALOREM TAXES, IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THE SEAWALL AND THE PEOPLE ALONG THERE BRING IN PROBABLY AS MUCH MONEY AS THE REST OF THE CITY IN THAT AREA. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT A BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST OUR VISITORS, BUT OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. DECADES AGO THERE USED TO BE THIS THING CALLED A TEETER-TOTTER OR A SEAHORSE. IT USED TO BE ONE OF THESE THINGS WHEN YOU SAT ON IT, ONE END WENT UP AND THE OTHER WENT DOWN. YOU DON'T FIND A LOT OF THEM IN PLAYGROUNDS ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY'RE DANGEROUS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PACKERY CHANNEL AND THE SEAWALL, I'M NOT LOOKING TO PIT EITHER ONE OF THOSE AGAINST EACH OTHER BUT I'M LOOKING TO DO AN ANALOGY LIKE WE HAVE HERE TO SAY A YOUTHFUL TIDE RAISES ALL BOATS. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, TO RAISE THE SEAWALL AND THE INTERESTS WE HAVE WITH REGARDS TO OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I LOOK FOR YOUR SUPPORT WITH THE SEAWALL AND THE OTHER PROJECT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. SINCLAIR. TERRY BETS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S RITCHIE. >> Mayor Guajardo: SORRY. >> I'M TERRY RITCHIE AND I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE GULF STREAM CONDOMINIUMS. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, LULU STANSKI WAS HERE IN REGARDS TO THE SEAWALL ISSUE AND SO I'M HERE TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF LOU AND ALL THE OWNERS. LOU WAS ICED IN IN AUSTIN TODAY SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT. WE JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE TO THE ISSUE HE ADDRESSED OF THE SEAWALL. WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO MOVING THIS FORWARD. AND WE APPRECIATE THE CITY KEEPING THEIR PROMISE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE SEAWALL AND SEE THAT THIS PROJECT MAKES IT THROUGH. WE HAD -- I WANT TO THANK MS. PAXSON, MR. ZANONI, BRENT CHESNEY, AND JEFF EDMONDS FOR A MEETING THEY ATTENDED AT THE GULF STREAM TWO SATURDAYS AGO TO KEEP US INFORMED TO LISTEN TO THE OWNERS AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE SEAWALL. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT PARTICIPATED AND ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE TO GRANT THE EASEMENT. SO ON BEHALF OF LOU, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THE GULF STREAM OWNERS, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. GREG RIVERA. >> I'M GREG RIVERA, DISTRICT 4. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY MANAGER PETER ZANONI, MAYOR PAULETTE GUAJARDO, COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON, AND COMMISSIONER BRENT CHESNEY AND OTHERS FOR SECURING THE FUNDING OF THE SEAWALL PROJECT AS WELL AS THE TIRZ 2 BOARD FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THE IMPORTANCE OF SAID SEAWALL. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SEAWALL. AND SO THANK YOU, GUYS FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND FINDING FUNDING FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. RIVERA. MARY ELENA GARZA. >> MARY ELENA GARZA, DISTRICT 1. SO I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS. AND I'M A BIG COMPLAINER. I KNOW THE POTENTIAL THAT OUR CITY GOVERNMENT HAS, OUR CITY STAFF, OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS. THAT'S WHY WHEN WE DON'T DO GOOD, I'M SO UPSET. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE -- I GUESS THIS IS WHAT THE DALLAS COWBOY FANS FEEL LIKE. OH, SO MUCH POTENTIAL AND WE JUST CHOKE AT THE END. SO I WENT AND PARTNERED WITH THE CITY. PETER CALLED ME, PERSONALLY. JACE CALLED ME. EVERYBODY WAS SUPER COMMUNICATIVE. I WASN'T HAVING TO PRY INFORMATION OUT OF PEOPLE. I'M LIKE, I'M ON YOUR TEAM. I NEED TO KNOW THESE NUMBERS SO I KNOW WHERE TO DIRECT PEOPLE. IT WAS AMAZING. THE RTA DID GREAT BEFORE, THEY EVEN DID BETTER THIS TIME AROUND. WENT INTO THE SHELTERS, THEY WERE CLEAN. THEY WERE PEACEFUL. PEOPLE WERE SMILING. THE CATS AND DOGS WERE JUST CHILLING MAN. LIKE, EVEN THE CATS AND DOGS ARE GETTING ALONG. I ALSO WANT TO >> I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. IT WASN'T JUST US WORKING. THERE WAS LOTS OF TIMES I WAS OUT DOING OUTREACH, I'M SEEING OUR CONSTITUENTS, STOPPING, RENDERING AID. GIVING OUT BLANKETS. I HAD SO MANY PEOPLE WHO FELT EMPOWERED BY THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE WERE PROVIDING THAT THEY WANTED TO HELP AND STEP FORWARD TOO. SO MANY PEOPLE CONTACTED ME SAYING THE NEXT TIME I WANT TO BE AN EMERGENCY SHELTER PROVIDER. I WANT TO TAKE THAT RISK ON, WILL YOU HELP ME? WHO DO I TALK TO? HOW DO WE PLAN? HOW DO WE GET MORE MONEY TO FUND THESE? YOU KNOW, TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE A CONTINUUAL SHELTER, LIKE A LOW-BARRIER SHELTER. IT'S AMAZING. I WENT TO THE BEN GARZA MYSELF BEAUTIFUL. WENT TO THE FEMA DOME, AWESOME. I EVEN MADE IT OUT TO ROBSTOWN YESTERDAY FANTASTIC. NUECES SHOWED UP AND WE SET AN EXAMPLE, AND OUR RURAL COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT IF THEY'RE IN CRISIS, IF THEY CAN GET TO NUECES, WE CAN HELP YOU. AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST OUR NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE COASTAL BEND IS ABOUT. THE COASTAL BEND IS ABOUT WHEN WE SEE A PERSON IN TROUBLE, WE HELP THEM. THAT'S THE TEXAN WAY. THAT'S HOW I WAS RAISED. YES MA'AM NO MA'AM YES SIR, NO, SIR, AND YOU HELP. NO QUESTIONS ASKED, RIGHT? WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER. WE DID GREAT. WE CAN EVEN DO BETTER. THIS IS A GREAT BENCHMARK THAT SHOWS THAT I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO THIS AND WE CAN HAVE ROBUST FUNDING, A HOUSELESSNESS DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON 21 THAT I WISH YOU HAD THE INTO MANAGE SOMETHING LIKE -- THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MANAGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S A RISK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SO WE CAN KEEP WITH THE MOMENTUM WE HAVE, 'MO MOMENTUM OF DIGNITY, ENDING HOUSELESSNESS. AND THE PEOPLE THREATENING PEOPLE LIKE ME AND BRIANNA DAVIS WITH ICE, DON'T BE THREATENING US WITH THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. GARZA. JIM KLEIN? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME IS JIM KLEIN. LIVE IN DISTRICT 2 HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. [INDISCERNIBLE] KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER BUT I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PARKS AND REC STAFF AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR OPENING THE OVERNIGHT WARMING CENTERS HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, SATURDAY NIGHT, SUNDAY NIGHT, MONDAY NIGHT, PEOPLE WERE HURTING AND THE CITY STAFF STEPPED UP FOR THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I REALLY THINK WHAT WE DID OVER THE WEEKEND REALLY REPRESENTS THE BEST OF CORPUS CHRISTI, SO I COMMEND THE ECONOMY MANAGER AND PARKS AND REC STAFF, ROBERT DODD AND ALL OF HIS STAFF FOR DOING THAT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. KLEIN. ADAM RIOS? >> ACTUALLY HAVE A HANDOUT REAL QUICK. >> SO WHILE THAT'S GETTING PASSED OUT, ADAM RIOS, CORPUS CHRISTI, DISTRICT 5. HERE AS USUAL I'M GOING TO BE TALKING WITH Y'ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF X GAMES COMING TO CORPUS CHRISTI. WHAT I'M HANDING YOU -- I JUST REALIZED SKATER MATH, I THINK I ONLY MADE LIKE EIGHT, SO ONE OF YOU DIDN'T GET ONE, BUT... SORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS IS AN ARTICLE THAT'S GOING TO GET PUBLISHED IN MARCH, IN THREE MAJOR SKATEBOARD MAGAZINES. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK YOU TO GO THROUGH IT. I CAN BRIEF YOU, BUT YOU'VE HEARD ME ENOUGH. THIS IS -- JUST SHOWS THE CASE FOR WHY CORPUS CHRISTI SHOULD BE PREMIERED FOR AT LEAST A QUALIFYING EVENT. AND I'M TRYING TO GET MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, PEOPLE ON A COUNTY LEVEL, STATE LEVEL, EVEN FEDERAL LEVEL, TO MAYBE WRITE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D MAYBE WANT TO PUT AS A QUOTE IN THIS OR SHOW SOME FORM OF SUPPORT, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE REALLY EXCITING IF THEY COULD READ THIS AND IT'S NOT JUST A LETTER FROM A LOCAL STATE BOARD COMPANY, IT'S ACTUALLY BEING ENDORSED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. I WAS ACTUALLY IN SLAVIN YEAH RECENTLY AND I WAS HANGING OUT WITH -- YOU CAN FIND SKATER CREWS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD WHEN YOU GO THERE, SO EVEN IN SLAVINIA, THERE'S A SKATE CULTURE THERE. THEY HAD INVITED ME TO CROATIA IN THE FALL, AND IT'S A BIG SKATEBOARDING FILM FESTIVAL, CONCERT SERIES THAT HAPPENS OVER THE COURSE OF A WEEK, AND IT JUST REKINDLED THE FIRE IN ME THAT I WAS LIKE, GOD, IF THIS LITTLE CREW 42 EASTERN EUROPE CAN THROW A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR EVENT IN CROATIA, WE CAN DO THAT, TOO. ONE OF THE REASONS I WANT TO BRING POSITIVE TO CORPUS THROUGH ACTION SPORTS -- BY THE WAY, IT'S AWESOME WITH THE SEAWALL. THE FIRST TEAM I EVER JOINED WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF COMPETITION HAPPENING RIGHT THERE OFF THE SEAWALL WHEN I JOINED MD SURF AND SKATE AND CHANGED THE TRAJECTORY OF MY LIFE AS WELL AS MY PARENTS, SAYING I'M NOT PLAYING VARSITY SPORTS ANYMORE, I'M GOING TO SURF AND SKATE. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE ARE IN CORPUS IS ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT AND MAYBE ADD AN EVENT, BESIDES SKATEBOARDING AND BMXING, WHICH COULD BE SURFING AT A LOCAL LEVEL. PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE DO SURF HERE. I HONED MY SKILLS HERE BEFORE I WENT TO HAWAII AND BECAME A PRO THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO BRING SOME POSITIVE ATTENTION TO CORPUS CHRISTI, EVEN B IF IT'S THROUGH ALTERNATIVE SPORTS, IF NOTHING ELSE TO -- BUT I HATE TO BE NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS, BUT THAT LANDMAN EPISODE MADE CORPUS LOOK LIKE A BUNCH OF UNEMPLOYED CHOLOS THAT WE EAT AND DRINK ALL DAY. IT'S A GREAT SHOW, I LOVE IT, BUT I'D RATHER BRING X GAMES TO PROMOTE THAN THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. RIOS. CHRISTINA ENGLISH? >> CHRISTINA ENGLISH, DISTRICT ONE. >> ALSO BE HERE ON THE SIXTH FLOOR, IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, OPEN TO THE COUNCIL. >> 104. >> SO IT'S NOT A PUBLIC MEETINGCH IT'S BEING STREAMED ON YOUTUBE. >> SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO UP THERE? OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS MYSELF AND MY PARTNER BEING DENIED ENTRY TO A COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE ALL JUST HEARD PETER ZANONI PROMISE WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. HE ACTUALLY SAID IT WOULD BE THE MOST TRANSPARENT PROCESS. TO BE CLEAR, I AM ASKING FOR AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS. IF YOU FEEL DECORUM PREVENTS YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS NOW ON THE DAIS, THEN I ASK THAT YOU CONTACT ME IN WRITING WITH YOUR STATEMENT USING THE CONTACT INFORMATION THAT YOU FORCE US TO PROVIDE, SUPPOSEDLY FOR THIS PURPOSE, TO RESPOND. PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE HELD AT 5:30 ON MONDAY, NOON ON TUESDAY AND AT EACH ITEM, AND VIRTUAL PARTICIPANTS, PARTICULARLY RESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, SHOULD BE GIVEN EQUAL ACCESS AT EACH OF THOSE TIMES. THERE'S NO REASON WHY SOMEBODY WITH A DISABILITY OR CHILDREN SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AT AN ITEM. AND THEY SHOULDN'T GET LESS ACCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE UNABLE TO APPEAR AS MANY TIMES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES. SO I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FORETHOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU IMPACT THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU MAKE THESE DECISIONS. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. ENGLISH. JIM MCKIBBIN. >> City Secretary: MAYOR, HE'S HERE FOR 31 AND THRUKS, THE E SESSION, AND ALSO ON THE PRESENTATION. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S -- WANTS TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. MR. MCKIB BIN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS? I'M SORRY, I JUST NOTICED THAT YOU HAD LISTED THEM -- OR I MEAN AT THIS TIME. >> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BRIEFLY ON THE POLICE PRESENTATION, YOUR HONOR. I ASSUME THE CHIEF HASN'T MADE IT YET, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS INVESTIGATED THIS THOROUGHLY AND DETERMINED THERE WAS NOT A VIOLATION AT ALL, IN SPITE OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE MAY TESTIFY TO IN THEIR DEPOSITIONS, WHO ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE LAW. AND BOTH MR. DAVID AND HIS ATTORNEY FILED COMPLAINTS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THERE WERE NO FINDING OF FAULT. >> City Secretary: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY, SIR, I'M SORRY, IF YOU'RE MAKING PUBLIC COMMENT. STATE YOUR NAME AND CITY, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: NAME AND CITY, MR. MCKIBBIN. >> I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS JAMES MCKIBBIN. I'M AN ATTORNEY IN CORPUS CHRISTI. I HAVE BEEN AN ATTORNEY IN CORPUS CHRISTI FOR A LITTLE OVER 50 YEARS. WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS, AND WAS ACTING CITY ATTORNEY WHEN I RESIGNED TO GO INTO PRIVATE PRACTICE. I'M REPRESENTING THE MAYOR IN THIS LAWSUIT FILED BY MR. DAVID, AND I THINK THE LAWSUIT IS DEFENSIBLE AND THIS MAYOR DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, AND THAT'S WHY THE POLICE AND THE OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOUND THERE WAS NO QUID PRO QUO AND NO BASIS FOR VIOLATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. MCKIBBIN. >> I THINK I'M IN DISTRICT 4. I LIVE IN SOUTH SHORES. >> Mayor Guajardo: OH, IT'S OKAY. ENCARNANON SERNA? >> YES, MY NAME IS ENCARNANON SERNA, I LIVE IN PORTLAND, TEXAS. 105 LOST CREEK DRIVE. I'M HERE BECAUSE OF WATER, THE WATER CRISIS. DO YOU HAVE COST ESTIMATES IN THE TWO CATEGORIES, THE CONSTRUCTION COST, CAPITAL COST AND THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE DESALINATION PLANTS THAT YOU ARE ALL PURSUING INNER HARBOR AND HARBOR ISLAND? WE NEED TO KNOW. 500,000 CITIZENS, SEVEN COUNTIES NEED TO KNOW THESE COSTS. THE FUNDING MECHANISM FINANCIALLY, HOW ARE THESE GOING TO BE FUNDED, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC. SO THAT WAS ONE ITEM. IF YOU'RE STILL PURSUING THOSE TWO, WE WANT TO SEE THAT: CONSTRUCTION COSTS, OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, AND THE TIME. USE SOMEBODY WHO HAS DONE CONSTRUCTIONS OF THESE DESALINATION PLANTS BY REVERSE OSMOSIS, PRESENT THE NUMBERS, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT US. THE SECOND ITEM IS, I KNOW YOU'RE PURSUING SIMULTANEOUSLY DRILLING WELLS, PRODUCING THE WATER FROM UK AQUIFERS TO SUPPLY THIS GIGANTIC GAR GANG WOWS NEEDS OF INDUSTRY WHO USE ABOUT 80% OF OUR WATER. IN THAT AREA OF DRILLING AND EXTRACTING THE WATER, WE WANT TO SEE COSTS SPENT TODAY, WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO DRILL THE WELL, THE CHEMICAL COMPOSITION AND THE CHARACTERIZATION FOR THE ENGINEERS SO THEY CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE OPERATING COST AND THE TYPE OF WATER TREATMENT PROCESSES TECHNOLOGIES THAT WILL BE NEEDED. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE A PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHOKE CANYON, AND I HAVE ALLOWED THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO GO INTO MY PROPERTY, THEY GOT THEIR LOCK, THEY HAVE MY COMBINATION. I CAUGHT ME A WATER POACHER. WHEN I SAY WATER POACHER, I DON'T MEAN SOMEBODY WITH A HOSE. I DON'T MEAN SOMEBODY WITH A STRAW. DIESEL STORAGE TANK, BIG PUMP, BIG PIPES. I REPORTED IT TO THE CITY OF THREE RIVERS, THEY THEN REPORTED IT TO CORPUS CHRISTI. I'M HAPPY, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT WATER MASTER ROY REDDING WHO HAS BECOME A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, THEY GO IN THERE ONCE A WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MILLIONAIRE POACHER ON THE OTHER SIDE WASN'T SUCKING THAT WATER, AGAIN, NOT WITH STRAWS. 10-INCH PIPES. SO REPORT ON THAT AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE ABOUT IT BECAUSE AT TCEQ WENT AND CONDUCTED A STUDY, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE NEXT MEETING THAT I CAN INTEND TO BE HERE. I WILL BE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MR. SERNA. YES SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: ROBIN COX. >> HI, ROBIN COX, DISTRICT 3. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY IT, PLEASE DON'T GET MY LANDMAN CANCELED, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I LOOK FORWARD TO. SO, PLEASE, IF YOU WANT TO COME FILM HERE, I LOVE THAT SHOW. I WANTED TO BRING UP SEVERAL THINGS I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ELSE ON THE ITEM AGENDA. AS FAR AS THE SURFING, MY SON HAD HIS VERY FIRST JOB AT THE SURF CAMP HERE. MY FIANCEE IS AN AVID SURFER. IF THERE'S SOME TIRZ MONEY TO GET THAT SURFING COMPETITION AND THAT CAMP THAT, WILL BRING A LOT OF VISITORS TO CORPUS CHRISTI. I WANTED TO SAY, WE LOST A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THIS WEEK, AND I DON'T THINK SHE GOT ENOUGH CREDIT. SHE TOOK ANIMALS OFF THE STREETS, AND IF WE COULD DO ANYTHING TO HAVE A DAY FOR ERNIE COCHRAN, SHE GAVE S SELFISHLY, SHE WASN'T POLITICAL, ALL SHE WANTED TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. SHE TOOK NO FAVORS FROM ANYONE, SHE TOOK ANIMALS OFF THE STREET. I WATCHED PEOPLE -- SHE ONLY TOOK SMALL ANIMALS, BUT I WATCHED PEOPLE DUMP LARGE ANIMAL AND SHE STILL TOOK THEM. SHE HAD A HEART OF GOLD, AND WE DO SO MUCH FOR PEOPLE AND HONOR THEM THAT DON'T NEED TO BE HONORED, SO IF WE CAN FIND IT IN OUR HEARTS TO DO SOME WAY TO HONOR ERNIE, SHE WAS THE MOST AMAZING WOMAN, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE THAT MET HER COULD HAVE A HARSH WORD TO SAY ABOUT HER. SHE WAS KIND AND GIVING, SO IF YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUR HEART, I THINK MOST OF US DO LOVE DOGS, AND JUST LITTLE THINGS ON FACEBOOK, SHE DESERVED MORE. SYLVIA, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY, BUT IF IT IS, HAPPY BIRTHDAY. AND MAYBE YOU'RE GETTING MARRIED, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY FOR THIS ONE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. WEBEX REBECCA? >> City Secretary: YES. AND THE FIRST PERSON IS SEAN MERIT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME. >> City Secretary: YES, WE CAN SIR. GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME'S SEAN MERIT, DISTRICT 5, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AND THE NEED FOR A STABLE, CITYWIDE FUNDING SOLUTION. ONE OPTION MENTIONED BY MR. CANTU A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WOULD BE A UTILITY BILL ROUNDUP TO THE NEAREST DOLLAR. THIS IS A SIMPLE MECHANISM USED IN OTHER CITIES TO FUND ESSENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES WITHOUT PLACING A MEANINGFUL BURDEN ON RESIDENTS. BASED ON CONSERVATIVE MATH, CORPUS CHRISTI HAS ROUGHLY 120,000 UTILITY ACCOUNTS. ANG AVERAGE ROUNDUP BY 50 CENTS PER BILL WOULD GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $720,000 PER YEAR. EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR REDUCED PARTICIPATION OR COLLECTION DEFICIENCY, THIS WOULD STILL RESULT IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY IN DEDICATED FUNDING. THAT FUNDING COULD BE USED DIRECTLY TO REDUCE INTAKE THROUGH SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAMS, EXPAND FOSTER AND RESCUE PARTNERSHIPS TO MOVE ANIMALS OUT FASTER, TABLIZE STAFFING TO REDUCE BURNOUT AND TURNOVER AND MEDICAL CARE THAT CURRENTLY BECOMES A EUTHANASIA DECISION. SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD COST MINIMAL, IT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE LOSE IN THEIR COUCH CUSHIONS. COLLECTIVELY, IT CREATES A PREDICTABLE FUNDING STREAM THAT ALLOWS PLANNING INSTEAD OF CRISIS MANAGEMENT. NOW, I KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE OBJECTIONS, I'VE ALREADY HEARD A COUPLE. SOME WHICH SAY NO NEW MANDATORY TAXES, THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL TAX INCREASE, IT IS A MICROFUNDING MECHANISM, SIMILAR TO HOW CITIES FUND OTHER SHARED SERVICES THAT BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. OTHERS WILL SAY -- SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE PETS. WELL, THAT'S TRUE. AND MANY RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE CHILDREN, YET THEY HELP FUND SCHOOLS THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES. MANY NEVER CALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR USE CERTAIN ROADS, YET THEY FUND THOSE SERVICES AS WELL. ANIMAL CONTROL IS PUBLIC SAFETY, SANITATION AND QUALITY OF LIFE. LOOSE ANIMALS, BITING INCIDENTS AND OVERCROWDED SHELTERS AFFECT EVERYONE, NOT JUST PET OWNERS. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCURATE PUBLIC REPORTING. DURING A RECENT PUBLIC MEETING, IT WAS STATED THAT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES HAD EUTHANIZED ONLY 20 ANIMALS LAST YEAR, HOWEVER BASED ON PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MONTHLY DATA ON THEIR OWN WEBSITE -- OR THE CITY'S OWN WEBSITE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ANIMALS YOUTHLISED IN CALALLEN IN 2025 WAS 748, AND NEAR HALF OF THAT WAS PUPPIES AND KITTENS. I'M NOT HERE TO ASSIGN MOTIVE, BUT WHEN NUMBERS PRESENTED PUBLICLY DO NOT ALIGN WITH DOCUMENTED TOTALS UNDERMINES TRUST IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO EVALUATE DECISIONS. NOW, I'M NOT ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS PROPOSAL OVERNIGHT, I AM ASKING THAT THIS COUNT SEPTEMBER BE FORMALLY EXPLORED AND EVALUATED USING COMPLETE AND ACCURATE DATA, DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT THIS WHETHER AS A PILOT PROGRAM AND BRING THOSE FINDINGS BACK FOR A PUBLIC REVIEW. IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, THEN WE HAVE TO MOVE FROM DISCUSSION TO STRUCTURE AND FROM PARTIAL INFORMATION BEFORE TRANSPARENCY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. NEXT WE HAVE AARON PRICE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> City Secretary: YES, WE CAN, MR. PRICE. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> THANK YOU. % MY NAME IS AARON PRICE. I AM A FORMER 38-YEAR RESIDENT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. I RESIDE IN INGLESIDE. I'M CALLING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FAR FIELD MODELING COMMITTEE THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY PUT TOGETHER, AND WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SELECTING PEOPLE ON THIS FAR FIELD MODEL. THERE'S PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAVE NO SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND AND NO SCIENTIFIC OR MARINE SCIENCE EDUCATION, AND I THINK IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY ARE EDUCATED IN THAT FIELD AND ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU, MR. PRICE. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, REBECCA. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION G, AND THAT IS OUR BOARD AND COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. MRS. HUERTA? >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. THE FIRST BOARD IS THE CORPUS CHRISTI AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY DISTRICT. THERE ARE THREE VACANCIES. AND PEREZLUTION PASSED BY THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL MAY APPOINT TWO NONCITY STAFF MEMBERS TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES JEFF EDMONDS IS SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD. >> Barrera: I MOVE TO REAPPOINT HIM. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT, COUNCILWOMAN, ON THIS? >> Paxson: EDMUND'S PART, BUT ON THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE. PETER, I SUPPORT THE MOTION AND SECOND. I'M CURIOUS, WE HAVE MR. DAN McGINN, AND I KNOW THAT HE'S RETIRING AS A CITY EMPLOYEE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Paxson: IS HE STILL SEEKING TO REMAIN AFTER HIS TERM, SO HE WOULD GO FROM A CATEGORY OF EMPLOYEE TO CITIZEN. >> Zanoni: CORRECT, OR PROFESSIONAL WITH HIS NEW COMPANY. YEAH, WE CHECKED WITH HIM TO SEE, AND HE STILL WANTS TO BE ON THERE, SO HE WOIL NO LONGER BE A CITY EMPLOYEE. >> Paxson: GOT YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: YES, MA'AM. COUNCILWO MAN, DO YOU HAVE A -- >> Campos: WE HAVE SEVERAL -- THE POINT OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO INCLUDE RESIDENTS, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE WHOLE COMMITTEE AS CITY EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? CORRECT. >> Zanoni: I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT. THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD WAS TO MANAGE THE CITY'S GROUNDWATER AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. >> Campos: THEY WERE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. >> Zanoni: THEY ALL LIVE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, UH-HUH. >> Campos: CITY EMPLOYEES. >> Zanoni: RESIDENTS, RIGHT. >> Campos: OKAY. THEY WERE ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, YES OR NO. WERE? I KNOW DAN McGINN IS -- >> Zanoni: YEAH. YES RIGHT. >> Campos: OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE RESIDENTS REPRESENTING OUR AREA. SO AS MUCH AS I -- YOU KNOW, I -- OF COURSE, I -- YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE EMPLOYEES, WE STILL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO EXTEND THAT -- >> Mayor Guajardo: WELL, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST REAPPOINTING THE ONE, WHICH IS MR. EDMONDS, AND AFTER WE DO THIS -- WE TAKE THIS VOTE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE MAKEUP, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> Campos: WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW -- KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, I THINK WE ARE. >> Campos: WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EXTEND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE RESIDENTS. >> Mayor Guajardo: I THINK WE ARE. LET'S JUST TAKE THIS VOTE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE -- >> Campos: I STILL DO WANT TO MAKE A NOMINATION. >> City Secretary: OKAY. BUT WE'RE -- >> Campos: SO AFTERWARDS? >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. THIS WOULD BE THE NEXT ONE. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REAPPOINT MR. EDMONDS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE REST OF THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD. >> Campos: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. >> City Secretary: HOW MANY NOS PLEASE? COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ AND -- WHO WAS THE OTHER NO?MR. CANTU . >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. AND COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> City Secretary: AND MRS. CAMPOS, OKAY. SO THAT MOTION PASSES. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. COUNCILMAN CANTU? >> Cantu: I DON'T KNOW WHY I DID IT. I'M SORRY. >> Mayor Guajardo: OH, OKAY. SO MR. EDMONDS -- I'M SORRY, CAN YOU TELL US THE VOTE ON THAT? >> City Secretary: IT WAS 6-3, VOTING AGAINST WERE CANTU, CAMPOS AND HERNANDEZ. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. GO AHEAD. >> City Secretary: SO NOW THAT LEAVES US WITH TWO VACANCIES. >> Paxson: NOMINATE JOHN MICHAEL. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO WE HAVE JOHN MICHAEL AND PATRICIA ANDERSON NOMINATED. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS. >> Campos: JOHN WEB BER, JASON HAIL. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN ARE YOU -- >> Vaughn: [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: KYLE HOOPER. BARTLESON. OKAY. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY. >> City Secretary: OKAY. DID YOU GET ALL THOSE, NORMA? >> I HAVE MICHAEL, ANDERSON, WEB BER, HAIL AND BARTLESON.BAR. AND HOOPER. >> Mayor Guajardo: IF YOU'LL REFRESH EVERYONE'S MEMORY, HOW MANY ARE WE VOTING ON? >> City Secretary: WE'RE VOTING ON TWO, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THERE'S TWO SLOTS. >> City Secretary: SO EVERYONE WILL VOTE FOR TWO. SO DOUBLE CHECK THE LIST, IF THAT'S EVERYONE, WE CAN START VOTING. >> Mayor Guajardo: CAN SHAY ZOOM IN ON THAT, ON YOUR LIST, SO WE CAN SEE THE -- >> City Secretary: I THINK THE CONTROL ROOM HEARD. LET ME SEE IF THEY CAN DO THAT FOR YOU, MAYOR. OKAY. NORMA, YOU WANT TO SHIFT THAT A LITTLE BIT. >> Vaughn: MAYOR, WHY DON'T YOU ANNOUNCE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC SO WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE. AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS. YOU KNOW, I WANT CITIZENS ON THERE TOO. BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT OUR PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYEES ARE ALSO CITIZENS AS WELL. >> Mayor Guajardo: THAT'S RIGHT. >> Vaughn: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM. THE FIRST PERSON IS JOHN MICHAEL. THEN WE HAVE PATRICIA ANDERSON. >> Mayor Guajardo: NO, WE WERE GOING TO TALK -- WHO'S CURRENTLY ON, THAT WAS THE REQUEST. >> City Secretary: OH, I'M SO SORRY. WHO'S CURRENTLY ON THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. >> Mayor Guajardo: YES. >> City Secretary: IT'S NICK WINKELMANN, JEFF EDMONDS, RYAN ZABAR CHECK, DAN McGINN AND WILL MCHALFIFY. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT YOUR LIST, WE'RE GOING TO PICK TWO AND I WILL START WITH COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: LET'S DO BARTLESON AND JOHN MICHAEL. >> Scott: MICHAEL AND HO HOOPER. >> Paxson: MICHAEL AND ANDERSON. >> Roy: MICHAEL AND HOOPER. >> Mayor Guajardo: MICHAEL AND HOOPER. >> Barrera: MICHAEL AND HOOPER. >> Campos: HALE HELE. >> HERNANDEZ [OFF MIC] >> Vaughn: [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: OKAY. SO IT'S MICHAEL AND HOOPER. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> City Secretary: ALL RIGHT. SO THE LAST COMMITTEE IS THE REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 7. THERE ARE SEVEN VACANCIES REPRESENTING THE CITY AND HISTORICALLY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL SERVE ON THIS BOARD. SO AT THIS TIME, WE CAN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS, MAYOR, AND IT IS SEVEN. SEVEN CITY REPRESENTATIVES, SO... >> Mayor Guajardo: SO IS THIS OUR -- >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. HISTORICALLY COUNCILMEMBERS SERVE ON THIS BOARD. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. SO WE'RE ALL -- >> City Secretary: WELL, IT'S JUST SEVEN. >> Roy: SEVEN SLOTS. >> City Secretary: DUE TO THE -- I THINK Y'ALL RECALL THE CONTRACT WITH NUECES COUNTY, THE AGREEMENT. IT LESSENED SOME OF OUR REPRESENTATION. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. >> Barrera: I'D LIKE TO SERVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHO WOULDN'T LIKE TO SERVE, HOW ABOUT THAT? >> Campos: I DO NOT. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. MRS. CAMPOS, IF YOU'RE OKAY NOT SERVING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE -- OH, WREL -- >> Hernandez: I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE EVERYBODY BUT BARRERA. [LAUGHTER] >> Paxson: SO I NOMINATE VAUGHN HERNANDEZ GUAJARDO ROY -- >> Mayor Guajardo: WELL, IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO -- >> Hernandez: I SAID -- SHE DOESN'T WANT TO SERVE. >> City Secretary: SHE DOESN'T WANT TO. ANYONE ELSE. >> Hernandez: SO I NOMINATE EVERYONE EXCEPT BARRERA AND COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Mayor Guajardo: WELL, IS THERE -- WELL, IT IS -- SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD BE OKAY NOT SERVING? EVERYBODY WANTS TO SERVE? THIS IS THE TIRZ 7, WHICH IS THE LONDON AREA, AND THIS IS A NEW TIRZ THAT IS BEING FORMED -- OR JUST WAS FORMED. >> Roy: I SERVE ON THE TIRZ 2 AND -- NOT TIRZ 2, BUT -- YEAH, I CHAIR -- I'M OKAY WITH SITTING OUT ON THIS ONE. >> City Secretary: YOU ARE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WELL, THANK Y'ALL, COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS, THANK YOU, AND COUNCILMAN ROY, THANK YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS A FIRST. TYPICALLY THE ENTIRE BOARD -- I'M SORRY, THE ENTIRE COUNCIL IS ON EVERY TIRZ, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES MADE. SO THEN WE WILL -- WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO NOMINATE ALL MINUS COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS AND COUNCILMAN ROY? OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. >> Hernandez: NO. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, NUECES COUNTY MAY APPOINT FIVE MEMBERS TO THE BOARD, AND THESE MEMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL CONFIRMATION. SO ON JANUARY THE 14TH, THE COUNTY APPOINTED THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS: JIMMY DODD SON, COMMISSIONERS JOE A GONZALES, JOHN MARCH RAS, MIKE PUSLEY AND COUNTY JUDGE SCOTT. SO WE ARE SEEKING COUNCIL CONFIRMATION OF THOSE APPOINTEES. COUNCILMA N BARRERA? >> Barrera: HERE. IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN FOR THE GROUP, I THINK THE COUNTY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO APPOINT SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THEIR POSITIONS, EVEN THOUGH THAT -- EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THIS NAME ON THE LIST, IS IT GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL -- AND, REBECCA, I'M DIRECTING IT TOWARD YOU? >> City Secretary: YES, SIR. THEY'RE GO SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS IT TOMORROW , AT THEIR MEETING TOMORROW. SO THEIR DISCUSSION WAS -- ONE THING THEY WANTED DO WAS APPOINT THE VICE CHAIR, SO BY AGREEMENT, THEY APPOINT THE VICE CHAIR. AND ALSO COMMISSIONER'S GONZALES, MARCH RAS, PUSLEY AND JUDGE CONNIE SCOTT, THEY'RE GOING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WANT SOMEONE TO SERVE IN THEIR PLACE, SO WILL THEY -- THEY'RE GOING TO DETERMINE TOMORROW WHETHER THEY WANT TO APPOINT SOMEONE TO SERVE IN THEIR PLACE OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO SERVE. SO THAT IS COMING TOMORROW. >> Barrera: SO THEN IS IT GOING TO COME BACK TO US, THE FOLLOWING WEEK TO BE ABLE TO APPOINT THOSE. >> City Secretary: YES, WE'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM IT. AND AT THAT POINT, ALSO, ONE OF THE MEMBERS IS APPOINTED BY RIGHT, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONFIRMING EVERYONE, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK, THEY ACTUALLY GET -- EACH TAXING ENTITY IN THE ZONE GETS ONE PERSON THAT THEY JUST APPOINT BY RIGHT. THE COUNCIL WOULD NOT CONFIRM THAT. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL FOR THE -- ON THE 24TH. I GUESS THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK ON THE 24TH TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONFIRM THOSE THINGS. >> Barrera: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: YES, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> City Secretary: AND ALSO THE CITY DOES HAVE AN ADDITIONAL APPOINTEE, TOO, WHO IS -- THAT WILL BE ON THE 24TH AS WELL. IT'S A LONDON AREA TAXPAYER OR PROPERTY OWNER, SO THAT'S THE OTHER. >> Mayor Guajardo: IN FEBRUARY. >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF AT THAT DATE. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: ALL RIGHT. SO ARE YOU -- I THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONFIRM THE COUNTY'S APPOINTEES; IS THAT CORRECT. >> Mayor Guajardo: OH, I DON'T -- GO AHEAD. >> City Secretary: WE CAN DO IT NOW, JUST TO -- IF THERE'S A MEETING. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: SO LET ME UNDERSTAND. WE'RE GOING TO BE CONFIRMING THEM BEFORE THEY VOTED ON IT TOMORROW. >> City Secretary: YES, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING SOON, SO WE WANTED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PRIOR TO THE 24TH. SO JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, WE'LL CONFIRM EVERYONE, BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS NOT INDICATED -- LIKE I EXPLAINED, THEY ARE -- THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE MEMBERSHIP NOW, BUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE APPOINTED ON THE 14TH, SO THEY DO NEED TO BE CONFIRMED. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> City Secretary: OKAY. ARE WE -- ARE WE GOOD WITH CONTINUING WITH THE VOTE. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: OKAY. THEN FINALLY, THE COUNCIL APPOINTS ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN FOR A ONE-YEAR TERM. >> Barrera: [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. IT'S HIS DISTRICT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. THE MOTION CARRIES. >> City Secretary: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THANK YOU, REBECCA. MOVING ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 3 THROUGH 24, DOES ANY COUNCILMEMBER HAVE AN ITEM TO PULL AND DISCUSS? >> 4. >> Mayor Guajardo: ITEM NUMBER 4. >> 12, 13. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. 12 AND 13. >> City Secretary: AND A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTED TO SPEAK ON 21. >> Mayor Guajardo: YEAH, I'LL GET TO THAT. ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILWOMAN? 15 AND 17. WHAT WAS YOURS? SO WE'VE GOT THAT ONE, OKAY. >> OH, OH, YOU'VE GOT ONE? >> 13. >> Mayor Guajardo: IT'S PULLED. 13'S PULLED. ANY REQUEST FROM THE PUBLIC TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT NOW ON ITEMS 3 THROUGH 24? >> 21. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU CAN COME UP AND MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> MARILYNNA GARZA, DISTRICT ONE. SO 21 HAS SOME RISK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD PRIOR, BUT WE CAN'T CRY OVER SPILLED MILK. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT THE MOMENTUM. WE'RE CUTTING THE PIE SO THAT WE HAVE OTHER PLAYERS COME IN, BUT TO MAKE US SUCCESSFUL, WE NEED MONEY. AND US LITTLES -- OR IT'S LIKE WHEN WE GET THAT MONEY -- LIKE THE BIGGER ORGS, WHEN THEY GET THAT MONEY, THEY NEED IT, TOO. NOT SAYING THEY DON'T. BUT WHEN ORGS LIKE ME, DISMAS AND MISSION 9-1-1, SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE IN THERE, MAN, $5,000 IS HUGE FOR THEM. $20,000 IS EVEN BIGGER FOR US, SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS SCARY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A HOUSELESSNESS DEPARTMENT WITH ALREADY A DEDICATED BUDGET IN SUPPORTING PEOPLE, BUT WE CAN DO THIS. WE CAN DO THIS, WE CAN ASSUME THIS RISK SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS MOMENTUM FORWARD, AND I'M HOPING THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, THAT WE CAN START DEVELOPING A PLAN OF ACTION, A MASTER PLAN MAYBE, FOR THIS HOUSELESSNESS APPROACH SO THAT WE CAN FUND THIS LONG-TERM AND WE WON'T HAVE TO BE TAKING THESE RISKY RISKS NOW. BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE LAUREN, JUDY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT HERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE STANDING ALONGSIDE ME ON THE STREETS AND IN THE COLD HELPING PEOPLE. AND WE REALLY, REALLY NEED THESE CHANCES. SO THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, MRS. GARZA. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? >> MAYOR GUAJARDO AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, I AM MAJOR NATHANIEL DORIAK, COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE SALVATION ARMY IN CORPUS CHRISTI SERVING THE COASTAL BEND. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AND A HALF. AND IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO BE HERE. THE SALVATION ARMY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS GREAT FOR THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI AND THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE FOR THE SUPPORT RECEIVED. WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR 117 YEARS SERVING THE COASTAL BEND. AND ALL THIS HAS BEEN POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF LOCAL SUPPORT. SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK MONEY COMES FROM ATLANTA, GEORGIA, OR DALLAS, TEXAS, OR WASHINGTON, D.C., BUT NO SALVATION ARMY IN THE WORLD OPERATES BUT WITH LOCAL FUNDING. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE HOMELESS HOUSING AND SERVICES PROGRAM'S FUNDING. IN FACT, HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS IS EXACTLY THE EMPHASIS OF THE SALVATION ARMY IN THE CENTER OF HOPE HERE IN CORPUS CHRISTI. FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, SINGLE MEN, SINGLE WOMEN, VETERANS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, ALL OF THEM ARE SUPPORTED TO OVERCOME THEIR BARRIERS AND TO MOVE FROM CRISIS TO SAFETY AND STABILITY AND TO RECEIVE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO HAVE HOUSING AGAIN. WITH YOUR HELP, WE WILL CONTINUE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE WHO NEED TO STAND ON THEIR FEET AGAIN AND TO START THEIR LIVES ALL OVER AGAIN. BUT THIS TIME WITH HOPE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THEM IN THEIR JOURNEY. THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR HELPING US TO DO THE MOST GOOD IN THIS COMMUNITY. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? COME ON UP. UH-HUH. DOES THIS INCLUDE ITEM NUMBER 13, THE WCID? MAIRNLZ YES, IT DOES. >> MY NAME IS QUIS CUELLAR, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF. I'M A RESIDENT OF NUECES COUNTY AND A CONSUMER OF THE WATER. AS SOMEONE LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS I'M UNREPRESENTED IN THE CITY'S PROCESS CONCERNING WATER, YET DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THOSE OUTCOMES. I AM HERE IN REGARDS TO THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A THREE-YEAR SUPPLY OF TREATED WATER, 3 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY, TO NUECES COUNTY WCID. THIS AGREEMENT INCLUDES REIMBURSEMENT FOR INTERSECTION AND POTENTIALLY SOME COST FOR ASSET INSTALLATION, SPECIFICALLY BLENDED TANKS NEEDED TO LOWER THE ELEVATED TDS IN OUR WATER, AN ISSUE EX EXASPERATED SINCE THE EASTERN WELLFIELD BEGAN. DISCUSSION SURROUNDING THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE MID LAST YEAR, DESPITE PRIORITIZING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH NONCCW CUSTOMERS, KEY SUPPLIERS SERVING OVER 4500 ROBSTOWN WATER CUSTOMERS AND 1100 RIVER ACRES WATER SUPPLY CUSTOMERS RECEIVE LITTLE ATTENTION, LEAVING THEIR CONCERNS UNADDRESSED. THE INITIATION OF THE WESTERN WELLFIELD IN JULY LED TO SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN TDS LEVELS IN WCID WATER SUPPLY, DRAWING FROM THE NUECES RIVER WITHOUT ADVANCED TREATMENT METHODS LIKE REVERSE OSMOSIS OR DESALINATION FILTRATION CANNOT EFFECTIVELY REDUCE TDS. CONSEQUENTLY, CUSTOMERS ARE RECEIVING WATER WITH ELEVATED TDS DIRECTLY IMPACTING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. SINCE JULY TDS READINGS AT FAUCETS SERVING WCID AND RAW CUSTOMERS HAVE RIDDEN STEADILY. [LAPSE IN AUDIO] WITH READINGS RANGING FROM 1304 TO 1588. THAT'S BASED ON 30 DATA POINTS. IN JANUARY THROUGH THE 26TH, THE AVERAGE CLIMB TO 1599-MILLIGRAMS PER LITER. THAT'S A LOW OF 1479 AND A HIGH OF 1,788. THESE LEVELS ARE WELL ABOVE ACCEPTABLE STANDARDS AND HAVE RENDERED THE WATER UNSUITABLE FOR CONSUMPTION. INITIALLY, I WELCOMED NEWS OF THE DRAFTED CONTRACT, BELIEVING THE CITY WOULD MEDIATE AND ASSIST ITS NEIGHBOR COMMUNITIES IN ADDRESSING PROBLEMS CAUSED BY GROUNDWATER PRODUCTION AND CONVEYANCE, HOWEVER I'VE LEARNED THAT THE MOU TERMS HAVE CHANGED. IN EXCHANGE FOR 3 MILLION-GALLONS OF TREATED WATER FOR BLENDING ASSETS, WCID MUST RELINQUISH 5 MILLION-GALLONS OF WATER RIGHTS TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THIS NEGOTIATION PLACES UNDUE BURDEN ON A SMALL WATER SUPPLIER AND FAILS TO EQUITABLY ADDRESSED THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE CITY ACTIONS. AS A RESULT, RESIDENTS OF ROBSTOWN AND ROSS CAN NO LONGER SAFELY USE THEIR WATER AS A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE OF GROUNDWATER CONVEYANCE INITIATED BY CCW. WHILE THE SOLUTIONS EXIST TO MITIGATE THESE IMPACTS, THIS IS NOT GENUINE MITIGATION. THIS IS NOT A DROUGHT ISSUE, THIS IS A CONTAMINANT ISSUE. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? COME ON UP. >> >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CLAUDIA [INDISCERNIBLE] I AM THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT DISMAS RECOVERY RESOURCE CENTER. I DO WORK FOR A NATIONWIDE ORGANIZATION NAMED DISMAS CHARITIES. WE'VE BEEN AROUND 61 YEARS. BASICALLY WHEN WE WERE FOUNDED BY FATHER DEARSON IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY, WE WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST GETTING OUT OF THE REENTRY, FEDERAL AND STATE PEOPLE WHO WERE INCARCERATED AND ARE IN HALFWAY HOUSES, BUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED TO COLLABORATE WITH THE STATE AND OPEN OUR BUILDING IN 1201 AGNES, AND WE'RE VERY BLESSED. WE HAD A LITTLE FALLBACK ON MARCH WHEN ALL OUR FUNDING WAS CUT, BUDDIES MASS CHARITIES BELIEVE IN HEALING THE HUMAN SPIRIT AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL TO THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHOEVER VOTED TO GIVE US THE GRANT MONEY FOR THE HHSP. WE HAVE GREAT CASE MANAGERS, RECOVERY COACHES, AND WE'RE WILLING TO PUT THE FOOT WORK AND WE'RE NOT CLOSING. WE'RE JUST EXPANDING AND WE'RE OPENING OUR VENUE TO BROADER -- BROADER ASPECTS, ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH PEOPLE WITH DIAGNOSIS SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE AND ESPECIALLY THAT COMES IN WITH THE HOLMESLESSNESS AREA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE? YES, MRS. CARGILL? >> HI, LAUREN CARGILL. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MISSION 9-1-1 IN DISTRICT ONE. MOSTLY I WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE GOOD THAT HAS COME OF THE HHSP FUNDING. MISSION 9-1-1 CURRENTLY ADMINISTERS THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT, AND SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DECISION LAST YEAR TOWARD THIS FUNDING TO MISSION 9-1-1, BECAUSE OF THOSE FUNDS, WE'VE HELPED APPROXIMATELY 50 HOUSEHOLDS SINCE NOVEMBER. THEY'VE -- WE'VE HELPED THEM EITHER MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING, ENTER INTO HOUSING OR ACCESS EMERGENCY SHELTER. THESE ARE SINGLE MOTHERS WITH CHILDREN, MOTHERS WHO HAD TO LEAVE THEIR WORK BECAUSE THEY HAD HIGH-RISK PREGNANCIES, INDIVIDUALS BATTLING CANCER, FAMILIES IN THE MIDDLE OF REBUILDING THEIR LIVES, YOUNG PARENTS AND MEN AND WOMEN IN RECOVERY. I WANTED TO SHARE A STORY REALLY QUICKLY. I GOT A CALL FROM A PARTNER AGENCY, MARI ACTUALLY, ON CHRISTMAS EVE ABOUT A MOM WHO WAS STANDING UNDER AN OVERPASS AND SHE HAD THREE YOUNG CHILDREN WITH HER ALL UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE. AFTER SPEAKING WITH HER FOR A LITTLE BIT, I LEARNED THAT THE REASON SHE WAS STANDING THERE WAS BECAUSE SHE HAD LOST HER HOME AND SHE HAD BEEN STAYING IN A HOTEL WITH HER KIDS. HER CHECKOUT DATE WAS GOING TO BE CHRISTMAS MORNING, AND SO SHE WAS STANDING THERE IN THE COLD TRYING TO GET ENOUGH MONEY IN ORDER TO STAY ANOTHER NIGHT. BECAUSE OF THESE FUNDS, WE WERE ABLE TO EXTEND HER TIME IN THE HOTEL, AND THEN OUR CASE MANAGERS WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH HER TO GET INTO LOCAL SHELTER, WHERE SHE IS NOW WITH HER KIDS. AND THEN ALSO START WORKING WITH HER TOWARDS FINDING A JOB AND CHILDCARE SO THAT SHE CAN BEGIN TO REBUILD STABILITY. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE DO AT THE MISSION WITH THESE MONIES. WE OR VERY SMALL, BUT MIGHTY, LIKE MARI SAID. WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY FEDERAL DOLLARS, NO STATE DOLLARS, SO ALL OF THESE FUNDS IN THIS GRANT ARE VERY, VERY IMPACTFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO. THEY ALLOW US TO WALK ALONGSIDE PEOPLE OVER TIME, OFFER THEM GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT, AND PREVENT THEM FROM CYCLING BACK INTO CRISIS AND HOUSELESSNESS. SO, AGAIN, WE'RE VERY GRACEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT. VERY QUICKLY, JUST WANT TO MENTION, WE'RE PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH ELEVATE 361 AS A RESULT OF THIS FUNDING SO THAT WE'RE GIVING GREAT COORDINATED SERVICES FOR OUR YOUTH POPULATION AND WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUTOUT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, JENNIFER AND AMANDA HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND RESPONSIVE AS THEY HELP US NAVIGATE THIS FUND AND ALL THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE BELIEVE ME, THERE ARE MANY, IN HELPING MAKE SURE THESE DOLLARS ARE BEING USED RESPONSIBLY AND EFFECTIVELY. I JUST WANT TO SAY A QUICK THING, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS FUTURE FUNDING DECISION FOR 21, I WANT TO KEEP -- YOU TO KEEP IN MIND AND ENCOURAGING YOU THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED FOCUS ON IMPACT AND CAPACITY. WHILE IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT A RANGE OF AGENCIES DOING THIS WORK, IT'S ALSO EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE FUNDED AT LEVELS THAT ALLOW FOR MEANINGFUL AND LONG-LASTING OUTCOMES, IT'S VERY VITAL. SO, AGAIN, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS FUND. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SUPPORT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OH YES MA'AM? >> >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MY NAME'S CATHY PECAR, ON BEHALF OF MOTHER TERESA SHELTER, WE WANT TO EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION TO THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE FUNDING TO HELP OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY. AS WE SAW RECENTLY WITH THE FREEZE, THERE ARE MANY PERSONS WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND IN NEED. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT IN COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, WE ARE STRONGER IN THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. THANK YOU, AGAIN. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Mayor Guajardo: I LIKE TO READ OUT THE ONES WE'RE TAKING OUT. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS 4, 12, 13, 15 AND 17. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: OH, SORRY, SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU, REBECCA. WELL, HANG ON. JUST A SECOND. >> City Secretary: MR. ROY? WOULD YOU CARE TO VOTE? >> Roy: OH, I THOUGHT I DID. >> City Secretary: THIS IS FOR CONSENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED. >> Roy: I THOUGHT I HIT IT. I'M SORRY. >> City Secretary: NO, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 4 WAS PULLED. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PROVISION AND SALE OF RECYCLED WATER FROM THE GREENWOOD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO VALERO REFINING. COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS? >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER IF -- I HAD RAISED THE ISSUE, AND I'VE BEEN RAISING THE ISSUE ABOUT THE VALERO PUC -- >> Zanoni: RIGHT, UH-HUH. >> Campos: -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT. >> Zanoni: YEAH, THE PUBLIC UTILITIES CHALLENGE ON THE RATES. >> Campos: I'M JUST -- HAVE YOU ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO VALERO AND ASKED THEM TO -- >> Zanoni: TO WITHDRAW. >> Campos: OR TO RECONSIDER? >> Zanoni: I HAVE NOT. BUT NICK, HAVE YOU ASKED THEM. >> Winkelmann: GOOD AFTERNOON, NICK WI WINKELMANN, INTERIM CHIEF OFFICER. WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT. WHAT I CAN SAY SORT OF AN UPDATE ON THE PUC COMPLAINT, THE CITY HAS JUST FILED ALL OF ITS DIRECT TESTIMONY WITH THE PUC AND IT'S MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. >> Campos: BUT THE QUESTION IS, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY REACH OUT TO VALERO AND ASKED THEM TO WITHDRAW. >> Winkelmann: SO WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT AND THEY -- I CAN'T COMMENT ON WHAT THEY SAID, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE NOT WITHDRAWN, NO. >> Campos: OKAY. I MEAN, I -- I SEE THIS AS A -- I WANT TO SEE THIS AS A GOOD NEWS ITEM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE -- THAT THEY ARE YOUSING -- WE'RE REACHING AN AGREEMENT OR ABOUT TO REACH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE USE OF THE RECYCLED WATER, AND MY ONLY I GUESS COMPLAINT WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR IT NOT TO HAVE GONE 30 YEARS, BUT TO HAVE REDUCED IT TO FIVE. OBVIOUSLY, MY MOTION DIDN'T PASS, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I JUST STILL WANTED TO HOPEFULLY HEAR SOMETHING FROM VALERO. >> Barrera: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. NEXT ITEM PULLED WAS ITEM NUMBER 12. THIS IS MOTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A 10-YEAR SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR BACKUP GENERATOR AT OWEN STEVENS. WHO PULLED NUMBER 12? COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: ALL RIGHT. NICK, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN I SAW THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. WE HAD A MEETING, MYSELF AND COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN, WE SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THIS, AND WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ENERGY SALES FROM THE GENERATORS WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, BUT YET YOU HAVE -- WHAT'S THE MONTHLY AMOUNT, $230,000 A MONTH, FOR 10 YEARS. >> Winkelmann: YES, SIR. SO COUNCILMAN, I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO THE ERCOT PROGRAM, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE A REVENUE OF TWO TO $3 MILLION A YEAR; HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL MORE THAN A YEAR AWAY FROM THE GENERATOR'S BEING INSTALLED AND THERE'S THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE WILL BE APPLYING TO, SO I DON'T HAVE FIRM NUMBERS. THE AGENDA MEMO DOES STATE THAT THAT WOULD BE OUR OBLIGATION, AND IT ALSO STATES THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING PROJECTED REVENUE OF TWO TO $3 MILLION, WHICH WOULD EITHER REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THAT ANNUAL FEE OR COMPLETELY COVER IT. IT'S IN THE FISCAL IMPACT SECTION OF THE AGENDA MEMO. >> Hernandez: BUT YOU'RE BUDGETING THE -- 2.7 A YEAR. >> Winkelmann: YEAH, UNTIL WE HAVE THOSE -- THOSE FIRM ARRANGEMENTS WITH ERCOT, CORRECT. BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE GENERATORS INSTALLED FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S -- THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THIS THING PAID FOR, BUT MAYBE NOT? >> Winkelmann: WELL, I FEEL VERY -- WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE ERCOT PROGRAMS AND ALSO HOW THE GENERATORS WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE POWER BACK TO THE 2AEP FEEDS THAT FEED OWOWENS STEVENSES, WE ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE ESTIMATED ERCOT REVENUE WOULD BE TWO TO 3 MILLION ANNUALLY, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY COVER THE -- THAT MONTHLY PAYMENT OF 230,000. HOWEVER, WE WANT TO BE -- WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT NUMBER WAS IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETING. AGAIN, THE FISCAL IMPACT FOR THIS YEAR IS ZERO BECAUSE EXERGJ IS CGJ IS COVERING ALL THE CAPITAL COST FOR THIS PROJECT. THE OTHER NOTE IS AFTER 10 YEARS, WE CAN PURCHASE THE GENERATORS FOR A DOLLAR. >> Hernandez: WELL, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF THE PRODUCTS AND THEN YOU END UP WITH THE USED E EQUIPMENT, AND THAT'S OKAY. >> Winkelmann: THE OTHER KEY FACTOR IS XERGY WILL ALSO BE SERVICING AND MAINTAINING THE CUMMINS GENERATOR THROUGHOUT THE FIRST 10 YEARS. >> Hernandez: WHAT'S THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THESE GAS GENERATORS. >> Winkelmann: I WOULD SAY 20 YEARS. THERE'S ACTUALLY A 10-YEAR EXTENSION THAT WE CAN EXERCISE AT YEAR 10 FOR THEM TO CONTINUE -- TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE GENERATORS, THAT'S AT OUR OPTION AFTER YEAR 10. OUR EXISTING GENERATORS WERE PRIMARILY INSTALLED IN 2001, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT -- THEY'RE 24, 25 YEARS OLD, SO THEY'RE -- WE FEEL THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR SERVICE LIFE. THEY'VE BEEN WELL MAINTAINED, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE -- >> Hernandez: OKAY. LAST QUESTION ON THIS, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION -- WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE THE PANELS ARE LOCATED FOR THE BACKUP GENERATORS. >> Winkelmann: YEAH, WE DID. >> Hernandez: AND ARE THOSE GOING TO BE RELOCATED AS PART OF THIS DEAL? >> Winkelmann: SO AS PART OF THE PROJECT, THE XERGY WILL PROVIDE US WITH ENGINEERING PLANS, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR ELECTRICAL RELIABILITY CONTRACT. THAT'S WITH A DESIGN ENGINEER WHO WILL REVIEW THOSE PLANS, AND THEN WE'LL BRING UP THE -- YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING THOSE PANELS IN THE SAME BUILDING. >> Hernandez: OKAY. AND, PETER, JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE ON THIS, THE BACKUP PANELS FOR THE EMERGENCY GENERATORS ARE IN THE SAME ROOM AS THE EXISTING PANELS FOR THE NORMAL ELECTRICITY. SO IF YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING OR IF YOU HAD A FAILURE THERE, IT WOULD AFFECT ALL THE PANELS. AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF YOU HAD BACKUP GENERATORS, BECAUSE THE PANELS ARE IN THAT OTHER BUILDING. SO IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HAVE THOSE SEPARATE SO YOU CAN HAVE, AT LEAST -- SO YOU'D HAVE THE REDUNDANCY SEPARATED FROM YOUR EXISTING PANELS, BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT CONVERSATION CAME FROM. >> Zanoni: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN? >> Vaughn: WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO HOW MUCH DO EACH OF THOSE GENERATORS COST, FOUR, RIGHT? >> Winkelmann: SO THE NEW GENERATORS, THE ESTIMATE COST IS 35 TO 40 MILLION. >> Vaughn: OKAY. OKAY. THANKS. COUNCILWO MAN PAXSON? >> Paxson: THANK YOU. QUESTION ON -- I NOTICED THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF BIDS ON THERE. THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE LOWER FROM A COMPANY IN TEXAS, BUT WE WENT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS A GROUP IN CALIFORNIA. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT? I -- I'M NOT PICKING ON NIVEN DORON ANY VENDOR OR ANYTHING, I JUST PREFER TO LOCAL OR AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE. >> Winkelmann: I ABSOLUTELY CAN SPEAK TO THAT. THIS WAS NOT A BID, IT WAS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. THE CITY RECEIVED PROPOSALS AND WORKED WITH OUR -- CCW WORKED ALONGSIDE OUR PROCUREMENT FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND OUR LI'L TEAM TO ENSURE THAT -- LEGAL TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THIS WAS HANDLED PROPERLY. EACH PROPOSAL WAS EVALUATED BY THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE TOP -- THE COMPANY WE'RE GOING WITH XERGY, THEY WERE THE TOP SCORER. AS A RESULT OF THAT, THEN THE LEGAL TEAM AND PROCUREMENT WORKED TO NEGOTIATE A KROT WITH THEM. CONTRACT WITH THEM. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT STOOD OUT THAT I CAN ABSOLUTELY SHARE WITH YOU, THE RFP WAS FOR A GENERATION OF 10 MEGAWATTS. THE SECOND COMPANY WHOM I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO, DID NOT MEET THAT. ADDITIONALLY, THE TOP COMPANY INCLUDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL THE ABILITY TO HAVE CONNECTION TO BOTH ELECTRICAL -- AEP ELECTRICAL FEEDS SERVICING OWENS STEVENS, SO THERE WAS ADVANTAGES THERE. AND THEN ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, THE WINNING PROPOSER WAS OFFERING CUMMINS GENERATORS. OUR CURRENT GENERATORS ARE CUMMINS AND WE'VE HAD A GOOD SERVICE LIFE. YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST TELLING THE COUNCILMAN THAT THEY'VE BEEN INSTALLED FOR 24 TO 25 YEARS. AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE CUMMINS SERVICE STAFF THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'RE AWARE OF THEM. THEY WORK AT OWENS STEVENS, THEY'RE LOCAL AND THEY'VE ALL DONE AN EXPEAL LENT JOB TO KEEP THOSE GENERATORS WELL MAINTAINED FOR US. >> Paxson: OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, NICK. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ITEM PULLED WAS ITEM NUMBER 13. THIS IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A THREE-YEAR TREATED WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH THE NUECES COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3. WHO PULLED THIS ITEM? >> Vaughn: I DID. COUNCILWO MAN. I WANT TO SEE IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY. SO THE DISTRICT 3 IS GOING TO BUILD THAT INTERCONNECT, CORRECT. >> Winkelmann: YEAH, THEY WILL -- THEY HAVE DESIGNED AN INTERCONNECT ALONG WITH A GROUND STORAGE TANK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED. THEY WILL BID THAT PROJECT AND CONSTRUCT IT. THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE THEM APPROXIMATELY $1.7 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT. >> Vaughn: SO THAT ROBSTOWN CAN HAVE WATER; IS THAT CORRECT? >> Winkelmann: THAT'S CORRECT. AND I'VE SAID THIS A LOT OF TIMES. YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALK A LOT AT DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, AND THE INTERCONNECT IS BENEFICIAL TO BOTH WATER SYSTEMS. AND ANYBODY WHO MANAGES A WATER SYSTEM KNOWS THE VALUE OF AN INTERCONNECT. SO IT'S VERY CRITICAL. IT ACTUALLY BENEFITS BOTH SYSTEMS. >> Vaughn: WELL, I DON'T HANDLE A WATER SYSTEM, BUT I DO HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THIS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IN THE WORLD OUR CITIZENS WOULD BE PAYING 1.7 MILLION SO THAT ROBSTOWN CAN HAVE WATER. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY EXPLAIN TA TO MOW, AND I'M SURE SOME OTHERS LISTENING OUT THERE ARE THINKING THE SAME THING. >> Winkelmann: I CAN ABSOLUTELY EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. SO WATER IS PROVIDED AT OUR STANDARD RATES AND TIMES OF EMERGENCY, AND THAT'S WHEN NUECES COUNTY WCID, NUMBER 3, WOULD REQUEST IT, RIGHT? SO THINK OF A MAJOR FAILURE OR SOMETHING AT THE PLANT. THAT WOULD BE IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY. NOW, ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT WHEN WE ARE -- WHEN THE -- WE ARE IN WHAT'S CALLED ACTION LEVEL 3 UNDER THE TCEQ BED AND BANKS PERMIT, AND THEY ARE SEEING TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS AT THEIR PLANT AT 1,000 TDS PLUS. THEN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WILL PROVIDE THEM WATER. SO THOSE CAVEATS -- THOSE THINGS HAVE TO MATCH. AND I DO -- BEFORE I FORGET, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF NUECES COUNTY WCID NUMBER 3 HERE TODAY, AND WE APPRECIATE THEM BEING HERE. >> Vaughn: HEY, I WANT THEM TO HAVE WATER, BUT 1.7 MILLION THAT THE CITIZENS OF CORPUS CHRISTI ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME. >> Zanoni: YEAH, COUNCILWOMAN, IT'S ACTUALLY THE ALL RATEPAYERS IN SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES WILL HELP PAY FOR THAT, SO IT'S NOT JUST -- IT'S NOT THE TAXPAYER, IT'S THE RATEPAYER, SO LARGE VOLUME USER. >> Vaughn: WELL, THAT'S A TAXPAYER TOO. >> Zanoni: I KNOW. I'M JUST SAYING, ALL ACCOUNTS PAY FOR THAT. >> Vaughn: ALL THE COUNTIES ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. >> Zanoni: ALL OF OUR CUST CUSTOMERS IN SEVEN DIFFERENT COUNTIES. >> Zanoni: IS ROBSTOWN PAYING PART OF IT, BECAUSE WE'RE REIMBURSING THEM $1.7 MILLION. THAT'S THE COST. ARE THEY PAYING. >> Winkelmann: WE ARE REIMBURSING THEM FOR THE COST OF THE PROJECTS AND WHAT OUR RATEPAYERS ARE GETTING IS THE ADVANTAGE OF AN INTERCONNECT FOR OUR SYSTEM, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO GETTING A THREE-YEAR LEASE ON 5 MILLION-GALLONS A DAY OF NUECES COUNTY WCID'S NUMBER 3 WATER RIGHTS IN THE RIVER. >> Vaughn: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: FIVE MGD. >> Vaughn: I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS. I JUST DON'T. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DIVIDE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY 1.7 WITH THE COUNTIES? WHAT'S THE PRICE? WHAT DO WE -- WHAT IS THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI GOING TO BE PAYING OUT OF THE $1.7 MILLION? >> Winkelmann: WE ARE PAYING THE $1.7 MILLION. >> Vaughn: BUT YOU SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE DIVIDED BETWEEN THE RATEPAYERS, ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SAID. >> Winkelmann: OH, OH. >> Zanoni: THE FUNDING COMES FROM ALL OF OUR RATEPAYERS IN SEVEN DIFFERENT C COUNTIES, RESIDENTIAL, LARGE VOLUME -- >> Vaughn: I GET THAT. >> Zanoni: THAT'S HOW WE'RE FUNDING THIS. THIS HAS BEEN A PARTNERSHIP PROJECT WITH ROBSTOWN. THE EMERGENCY WATER THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THE RIVER THROUGH OUR WELLFIELDS. >> Vaughn: THE WELLS. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. THAT HAS A HIGHER TDS, WE'VE BEEN VERY UP FRONT ABOUT THAT. SO THIS COULD IMPACT ROBSTOWN'S WATER SYSTEM. AND THEY ARE -- WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM IN PARTNERSHIP TO SAY, IF THEIR WATER'S COMPROMISED, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT. BUT FOR OUR ACTION, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. >> Vaughn: THAT HE'S WHAT I WAS GETTING BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT THE ANSWER WAS. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE HAVING TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT THOSE WELLS HAVE HAD, CORRECT? >> Zanoni: I WOULD SAY -- MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ENGINEER ANSWER, BUT I WOULD SAY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE, YES, THAT'S IT. >> Vaughn: IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE FRIENDS HERE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD BE IN CURTAILMENT SOONER THAN NOVEMBER IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE WELLS ALONG THE NUECES RIVER THAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY USED IN TIMES PAST. THIS IS -- I'VE -- I WOULD SUMMARIZE THIS AS A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH ROBSTOWN WATER DISTRICT. THEY'RE GIVING UP A LOT. YES, OUR RATEPAYERS WILL HELP PAY 1.7 MILLION, BUT IT'S A REGIONAL APPROACH TO MITIGATING THIS DROUGHT. >> Vaughn: AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I KNEW THE ANSWER, BUT IT SURE DID TAKE ME A LONG TIME TO GET AROUND TO IT. >> Zanoni: WELL, IT'S GOOD TO TALK ABOUT IT. >> Vaughn: IT'S GOOD TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. >> Zanoni: ABSOLUTELY. >> Vaughn: SO THANK YOU. >> Zanoni: YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. >> Winkelmann: AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR QUITE A LONG TIME ON THIS AGREEMENT. THERE WAS SOME TURNOVER IN CCW, TOO, THAT DELAYED IT A LITTLE BIT. I THINK WE ALL WISH WE GOT HERE SOONER, BUT WE WORKED REALLY HARD, WE ROLLED UP OUR SLEEVES TO GET HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: BUT NICK, WE'RE GETTING 5 MGD OF SURFACE RIGHTS IS THAT, CORRECT, PETER. >> Zanoni: YEAH, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE PAYMENT, THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT WE GET, IF THERE'S WATER TO BE HAD FROM THE RESERVOIR. WE -- IN E CHANGE, SO THERE IS A VALUE THAT WE CAN SAY TO THE RRATEPAYER, WE'RE GETTING SOMETHING. THAT IS FIVE MGD OF WATER RIGHTS FROM THE LAKE CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. WE NEED TO -- THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT. >> Zanoni: THE RIVER, YEAH. COUNCILMA N HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT'S A NICE WAY OF PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG KIND OF THING. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IMPACTING ROBSTOWN'S WATER SUPPLY THROUGH OUR WATER WELLS AND THE AMOUNT OF TDS, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR ONLY SOURCE OF WATER. AND IF WE DID NOT PROVIDE THEM AN INTERCONNECT, THEY COULD SUE US BECAUSE WE'RE INTERFERING WITH THEIR WATER RIGHTS. AM I INCORRECT? >> Risley: ACTUALLY, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE INTERFERING WITH THAT, BECAUSE WHEN THE AMOUNT OF WATER IN THE RIVER IS LOWERED, THEN YOU HAVE NATURAL HIGH SALINITY WATER THAT SEEPS UP FROM BELOW INTO THE RIVER. SO TO SOME EXTENT, WE ARE AVOIDING A CONTEST ON THAT ISSUE. WE'RE ALSO AVOIDING THEIR OBJECTION, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY AGREE NOT TO OBJECT TO OUR BED AND BANKS PERMIT, OUR TRANSPORT RIGHTS TO TRANSPORT THE WATER DOWN THE RIVER. AND WE'RE AVOIDING -- WE ARE ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATING THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE MIGHT BE ANY DAMAGE TO THOSE -- THAT WATER, WE ARE MAKING UP FOR THAT DAMAGE. WE ARE ALSO GETTING BACK, IN EXCHANGE, A LEASEBACK OF FIVE MGD OF SENIOR WATER RIGHTS IN THE RIVER, WHICH IS A -- WHICH ESSENTIALLY PREVENTS THEM FROM RESELLING THIS ADDED WATER THEY'VE BECOME -- THAT'S BECOME AVAILABLE TO THEM. >> Winkelmann: AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE RIVER'S VERY COMPLICATED AND THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE WATER QUALITY IN THE RIVER. >> Hernandez: OKAY. BUT AS I RECALL, TCEQ IS REQUIRING US TO MONITOR THE SALINITY LEVELS PRIOR TO -- WHERE THE WELL IS -- WATER IS ENTERED INTO T THE NUECES RIVER, AFTER IT, AFTER THE INTAKE OF WWC3 WCID3'S INTAKE. >> Winkelmann: WE ARE REQUIRING TO MONITOR THE RIVER. IT'S UPSTREAM FROM THE EASTERN WELLFIELD, DOWNSTREAM OF WELL 1, DOWNSTREAM OF WELL 4 AND THEN DOWNSTREAM OF OUR COMBINED WELLFIELD, WHICH IS SIX WELLS. THE BED AND BANKS PERMIT DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO MONITOR TDS AT THEIR INTAKE AND, OF COURSE, THE TDS AT OUR INTAKE, WE'VE BEEN MONITORING FOR YEARS. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THE REASON I SAY THIS, AND, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THIS IS A NECESSARY EVIL THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT THEM IN A POSITION THAT THEY CAN'T PROVIDE WATER TO THEIR CITIZENS BECAUSE OF ACTIONS THAT WE'RE DOING, THEIR INTAKE IS SOUTH OF WHERE OUR WELLS ARE. AND WE'RE IMPACTING THEM, REGARDLESS, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING HIGH TDS WATER INTO THE RIVER. OKAY. SO THIS IS A RESULT -- THIS COST, THIS $1.7 MILLION IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING TO -- IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT WATER ALONG THE RIVERBANKS ON THAT BED AND BANKS PERMIT. OKAY. SO -- I MEAN, WE DON'T -- THIS IS HAPPENING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A REAL UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE CAN OPEN OURSELVES TO A LAWSUIT BECAUSE ROBSTOWN HAS SENIOR RIGHTS TO THE RIVER. THEY HAVE SENIOR RIGHTS TO US. AND I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THAT WATER RIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO SO WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES IN JEOPARDY AND WE DON'T IMPACT THE CITIZENS OF ROBSTOWN NEGATIVELY BECAUSE OF OUR OWN ACTIONS. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N BARRERA? >> Barrera: I'LL TAKE THAT YES FOR AN ANSWER. JUST FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR THE TEAM AND THANKS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW -- I MEAN, I -- IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF KNOWING THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEIR RATEPAYERS ARE NOT JUST LIMITED TO THE CITIZENS OF ROBSTOWN, DON'T THEY HAVE SOME CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENTS AS WELL IN THE NORTHWEST AREA? >> Winkelmann: YEAH, THEY ABSOLUTELY DO. >> Barrera: ABOUT HOW MUCH? >> Winkelmann: I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, YEAH. >> Barrera: CAN YOU TURN AROUND AND ASK HIM? >> Winkelmann: I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO ANSWER IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEIR CUSTOMERS, NOT MINE. YEAH. >> COUNCIL, MAYOR, WE APPROXIMATELY SERVE ABOUT 10,000 CUSTOMERS IN THE CORPUS AREA, INCLUDING THE NORTHWEST ALL THE WAY OUT TO COUNTY ROAD 75. AND WALMART, FIVE POINTS AREA, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 624, THAT'S WHO WE SERVE. >> Barrera: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARCOS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT -- YOU KNOW, AND AS WE POINTED OUT, IT'S THE RATEPAYER AND IT'S COMMISERATE BASED ON EACH UTILIZER OF WHAT IT HAD. JUST LIKE WE MADE AN EXAMPLE OF VALERO, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE PAYING A GOOD PORTION OF THAT 1.7 MILLION. IT'S -- ANYWAY, I'VE MADE MY POINT. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILMA N SCOTT? >> Scott: I JUST WANT TO THANK THE DISTRICT FOR WORKING WITH US. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND 1.7 MILLION, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXTENSION OF OUR GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM. I WAS CURIOUS, HAVE WE -- HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN TDS ABOVE 1,000? YOU HAVE? OKAY. >> IT'S GETTING HOT IN HERE. RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING ABOUT 1500 AT OUR PLANT. >> Scott: WOW, INTERESTING. >> 1500. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 700 FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. >> Scott: SO THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM FOR YOU GUYS. FOR ALL OF US, BUT... >> WE'RE HERE TO WORK. IT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. >> Scott: I GET THAT. >> HELP THE SEVEN-REGION AREA THAT Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. I MEAN, WE'RE HERE TO WORK, BUT, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT TO BE FAIR ABOUT IT. >> Scott: TOTALLY GET IT. APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. NICK, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK. I THINK IT'S ALL PART OF A GREAT -- A BIGGER PLAN TO AVOID CURTAILMENT, AND JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. COUNCILMA N ROY? >> Roy: MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF JUST REALLY DIRECTED AT ROBSTOWN, I THINK WHEN WE WERE AT THE WATER SUMMIT OR WHATEVER A COUPLE DAYS AGO, YOU GUYS HAVE SOME PLANS TO IMPROVE YOUR SYSTEM, RIGHT? ARE YOU -- >> WE DO. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A -- WE'RE UNDER A WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD GRANT THAT WE ACQUIRED. IT'S FOR $9 MILLION. WE -- YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF WORKED OUT FOR US IN OUR FAVOR BECAUSE OF POVERTY AREA THAT WE'RE IN, WE GOT TO REPAY BACK 2 MILLION OF THAT. SO THAT WAS A NO-BRAINER FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. >> Roy: YEAH, NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. DISTRICT ONE, WE'RE RIGHT THERE. YOU GUYS SERVICE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT THERE IN OUR AREA, SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE AND HOPEFULLY THIS WILL -- I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, I THINK THIS WHOLE WATER SHORTAGE THING HAS MADE US LOOK AND FORM PARTNERSHIPS IN THE PAST WE DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT, SO... >> ONE OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP TO NICK WAS BACK IN THE FREEZE OF '21 WHEN CORPUS WAS DOWN, WE WERE STILL UP. IF WE HAD THAT INTERCONNECTION GOING, WE PROBABLY COULD HAVE FED HALF THE POPULATION, MAYBE NOT THE REFINERIES, BUT WE COULD HAVE FED THE POPULATION. SO THAT WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT THAT WAY. >> Roy: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS COMPLETELY, MR. ALANIZ. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> Zanoni: MAYOR, CAN I -- EXCUSE ME -- I JUST WANT TO SAY, MARCOS IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS SPEAKING. WE JAWS WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM. HE'S THE MANAGER OF THE DISTRICT. BUT HIS BOARD CHAIR ALEJONDRO IS HERE AND THEIR ATTORNEY CHARLIE ZAHN, THOSE THREE HAVE WORKED WITH US, AS IN THIS CASE SAID QUITE A BIT, AND THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN WORKING WITH US. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ITEM PULLED, WE HAVE JUST ONE MORE AFTER THIS, WAS A MOTION AWARDING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO ASSOCIATED CONSTRUCTION PARTNERS FOR A CITYWIDE -- LIFT STATION REPAIR. WHO PULLED THIS ONE? ITEM 15. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. I NOTICED, WHEN READING THE PACKET, THAT IT WAS TALKING ABOUT NEW CONTRACT COSTS. JUST FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE A LITTLE BIT NEWER, TELL ME A LITTLE ON THAT DISTINCTION. THE NEW CONTRACT COST VERSUS PREVIOUS REPAIRS, THE $16.8 MILLION. >> Edmonds: OKAY. SO WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSENT DECREE WHERE THEY HAVE TO INSPECT ALL THE LIFT STATIONS. WE HAVE 107 LIFT STATIONS SO WHEN WE FIND DEFICIENCIES, WE PROGRAM IN REPAIRS TO THIS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BACK THERE. SO THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE SET UP A CIP PROJECT. THIS WAS LIKE THE THIRD TRANCHE OF FUNDING, THE THIRD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR A SERIES OF LIFT STATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, WE REFER TO IT AS THE FY2019-2020 PROGRAM. THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP. I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE REALLY NEED TO SET UP A NEW PROJECT FOR EACH TRANCHE. THIS WILL BE THE THIRD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT WE HAVE DONE UNDER THAT PROJECT NAME AND IT'S JUST A NEW SERIES OF FUNDING AND IT'S GOING TO SPREAD ACROSS THREE FISCAL YEARS. >> Paxson: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: YOU SAID THIS WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A CONSENT DECREE? >> Edmonds: YES. >> Vaughn: THE AMOUNT THEY MAKE US PAY, THIS IS GOING TO COME OFF OF IT? I HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS QUESTION FOR A WHILE BECAUSE THE CONSENT DECREE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET NUMBERS, HOW MUCH WE PAID. STILL HAVE NOT GOT THOSE. PART OF THAT IS MY FAULT AND NICK'S BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER. HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT? >> YES, MA'AM. TO DATE, WE DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS -- I DON'T HAVE THEM WITH ME. THEY'RE ALWAYS CHANGING. EVERY DAY, EVERY MONTH, THEY CHANGE. WEBLEY NEBGEN BUT THEY DO CHANGE AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION IN THE FUTURE TO COUNCIL THAT WILL EXPLAIN THE MONEY WE HAVE SPENT AND HOW IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSENT DECREE. >> Vaughn: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: WE DIDN'T HEAR THE MOTION AND A SECOND. WHO MADE THE MOTION? >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON AND COUNCILMAN ROY. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. LAST ITEM PULLED WAS A RESOLUTION -- ITEM NO. 17. RESOLUTION AWARDING A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO B.E. BEECROFT COMPANY. THIS IS FOR THE COOPERS BOATERS FACILITY AND PARKING LOT RESURFACING. WHO PULLED THIS ITEM? COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. READING THROUGH THE PACKET, I RECOGNIZE THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN MOVING THROUGH A SERIES OF APPROVALS AND IT'S COMING ACTUALLY FROM PREVIOUS BUDGET YEARS, IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT FROM THE PACKET. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS MUCH GOING TOWARDS AN ITEM THAT IS NOT THE ACTUAL SEAWALL, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THIS IS FOR RESTROOMS AND SURFACING OF PAVEMENT AND WASHING UTILITY-TYPE THINGS. WHEN THIS FUND SHOULD BE PROTECTING AND MAINTAINING THE ACTUAL SEAWALL. WE HAVE ANOTHER BIG ITEM, WHICH IS THE PADRE SEAWALL. TO ME, IF WE CAN KEEP THAT MAINTENANCE FUND INTACT FOR THE APPARATUS THAT'S DOWNTOWN, THEN WE HAVE MORE LEVERAGE FOR THE NEW REAUTHORIZATION BUDGET, AS OPPOSED TO IT NEEDING TO GO IN AND DO ACTUAL PROJECTS ON THAT SEAWALL. I'M HAVING SOME CHALLENGES HERE JUSTIFYING A TOTAL OF $6.6 MILLION FOR BATHROOMS, PARKING LOTS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> Edmonds: LET ME START OFF AND I MIGHT GET JONATHAN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE FACILITY. IT'S IN THE SEAWALL CIP. THIS WAS FUNDED OUT OF THE TYPE A TAX. AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MARINA THAT HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH THOSE FUNDS, LIKES THE DOCKS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE BOARDWALK. THERE'S ANOTHER FACILITY THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING THAT WAS ALL APPROVED BY THE TYPE A BOARD. AND IT'S BEEN IN PREVIOUS CIPs. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROGRAMMED. WE HIRED THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS. DEVELOPED THOSE PLANS AND THEN PUT IT OUT FOR BID. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS GETTING TO THIS POINT. AND I CAN PROBABLY GET JONATHAN TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS FITS IN WITH THE LARGER PLANS. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, JEFF. >> JONATHAN ATWOOD, ASSISTANT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. TYPE A FUNDS WERE LOOKED AT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO BY LEGAL. AND A DECISION WAS MADE THAT THESE FUNDS COULD BE UTILIZED FOR IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE MARINA AS PART OF THAT FUND. SO WE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THE MARINA WITH THE DOCKS, PEOPLE'S BOARDWALK. WE HAVE THE COOPERS BOATING FACILITY, WHICH IS WHAT Y'ALL ARE VOTING ON TODAY. THESE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE SEAWALL, ENHANCE THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH I BELIEVE FALLS UNDER THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THAT TYPE A FUNDING. >> Paxson: AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO HERE IS NOW THAT IT'S FULLY FUNDED, APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION. >> THAT IS CORRECT. THIS HAS BEEN UNDER DESIGN FOR THREE TO FOUR YEARS NOW, ALONG WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE AHEAD OF IT. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO STAGGER THESE PROJECTS AND THE COMPLETION OF THESE PROJECTS. SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS A UTILITIES PROJECT FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER ON COOPERS L HEAD. IF YOU DRIVE DOWN NOW YOU'LL SEE THAT PROJECT ALMOST COMPLETED AND WE'RE ROLLING THIS PROJECT ON THE BACK SIDE OF THAT. OVERALL, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN THE MARINA THROUGH DIFFERENT AREAS AND MAINLY THE TYPE A FUND. >> Paxson: SO I UNDERSTAND SEEKING LEGAL COUNSEL. IS THIS FUNDING ELIGIBLE FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECT. AND I APPRECIATE THE DUE DILIGENCE. THE THERE SOMEONE HERE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW FOR THE SEAWALL MAINTENANCE TOTALS? >> Zanoni: WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU BUT WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE BUDGET BOOK. >> Paxson: YEAH. IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT. I KNOW -- SO THIS FUND WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS TO GO TO THESE ITEMS AND WE WENT THROUGH OUR LEGAL TO SEE IF OUR PROPOSAL FITS WITHIN THAT PARAMETER. BUT THE ORIGINAL PARAMETER WAS THE SEAWALL. AND SO WHAT I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IS HOW MUCH IS LEFT IN THAT MAINTENANCE FUND FOR THE SEAWALL. >> Edmonds: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH. THIS IS THE 2000 REFERENDUM SALES TAX. THIS WAS UNDER THOSE PURPOSES AND BOND COUNSEL AND EVERYBODY SAID THESE ARE ELIGIBLE USES UNDER THAT PURPOSE. SO THE NEW TAX, NOW WE'VE EXPANDED THAT PURPOSE, SIGNIFICANTLY. INCLUDING ALL THE OLD PURPOSES PLUS ALSO AN EXPANDED PURPOSE. >> Paxson: IF I CAN WAIT FOR THAT ANSWER... >> Zanoni: WE'LL HAVE IT BY THE TIME THE COUNCIL IS DONE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS KIND OF REMINDS ME THIS MORNING OF THE SEAWALL FOR THE ISLAND. IT'S A PRIORITY AND I THINK THERE'S SOME SECTIONS AROUND THE ART CENTER, IF I'M CORRECT, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FINISHED FOR THE SEAWALL. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BECAUSE, TO ME, IT'S A WANT NOT A NEED THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. WOULD IT BE BEAUTIFUL? ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD. THE CITY'S CREDIT RATING IS NOT GREAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S OKAY. WE ARE SPENDING MONEY LIKE IT'S GROWING ON TREES. TO ME, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO. TO ME, WE HAVE TO HAVE MONEY FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. WE JUST SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PRIORITY. I JUST DO NOT THINK IT'S A PRIORITY. YOU SAID IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS. THAT'S NOT VERY LONG FOR A CITY TO HAVE A PROJECT IN THE WORKS FOR TWO OR THREE YEARS. LOOK AT THE ONE WE HAD THIS MORNING. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT FOR THE REASON THAT I THINK THAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS BENEFITING, OTHER THAN THE YACHT CLUB. I DON'T THINK IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. WE'RE BUILDING A LOT OF STUFF. YOU WANT TO TALK? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO WHO IT BENEFITS. THIS BOATER FACILITY SERVES COOPERS L-HEAD, WHICH ALSO HAS THE ONLY PUBLIC BOAT RAMP ON THE BAYFRONT. IT IS ALSO THE CENTER POINT FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY EVENT HELD DOWNTOWN ON THE WATER. WHETHER THAT'S THE REGATTA, AN EVENT ALONG THE BAYFRONT, INCLUDING THE FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS. THIS IS OUR SMALLEST FACILITY. IT'S GOT A SMALL PUBLIC RESTROOM IN IT AND A SMALL TENANT AREA. WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE CONTINUED TO GO ON DOWNTOWN, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MARINA, IT IS VERY SMALL FOR THE AMOUNT OF USE THAT IT GETS. JUST THE ILLUMINATED BOAT PARADE THIS PAST DECEMBER. WE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. MOST OF THEM PARKED ON THE L-HEAD OR UP ON THE SEAWALL AND UTILIZED THAT FACILITY. I MEAN, IT WAS UNDER CONSTANT USE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. THIS FACILITY SERVES PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WALKING DOWNTOWN ON THE SEAWALL THAT USE THE RESTROOMS RECENT. >> Vaughn: THE BUILDING IS GOING TO SERVE THE PUBLIC? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> Vaughn: WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY'RE FULL? >> WE HAVE BEEN AVERAGING 70 TO 75% CAPACITY. >> Vaughn: SOMEONE TOLD ME 60. >> THAT WILL CHANGE. >> Vaughn: SO IT IS 60%? >> IF YOU INCLUDE EVERYTHING, IT WILL DROP TO 65%. >> Vaughn: I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT THAT. I'M JUST NOT ON BOARD BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY RIGHT NOW. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING GOOD OVER THERE WITHOUT IT. WHEN CHANNEL 6 BROKE THE NEWS STORY YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS, MY INBOX AND FACEBOOK WENT CRAZY. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE'S BUT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM. THE PUBLIC IS WORRIED ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES, POTHOLES, YA DA, YADDA YADDA. WITH CHANGE ORDERS PROBABLY $8 MILLION . I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED THIS RIGHT NOW. . I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT OTHER THINGS BESIDES A PRETTY BUILDING. WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES AND I THINK WHENEVER THERE WAS A STORM THAT CAME, THE ART MUSEUM WAS PRETTY MUCH UNDERWATER AND WE HAVEN'T FIXED THAT. WE NEED TO USE THIS MONEY TO PROTECT DOWNTOWN AND PROTECT THOSE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. ANYHOW, I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS AND THAT'S IT. THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I WANT TO REITERATE. YOU INDICATED THAT IT'S FOR PUBLIC USE. IT'S -- I DON'T SEE IT -- IT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND IT WAS A TYPE A FUND. REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT IS WE HAVE CHALLENGES FROM OTHER AREAS, THIS IS ONLY FUNDED FOR ITEMS ALONG THE SEAWALL. I REMEMBER US REVIEWING THIS BACK -- I THINK WE STARTED IN THE BUDGET CYCLE IN '21, '22 BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS JUST FOR SEAWALL PROTECTION. THE LANGUAGE INDICATES THAT IT IS AN AREA THAT IS FOR THE PUBLIC AND TO IMPROVE THAT AREA FOR THE PUBLIC. I REMEMBER IT VERY CLEARLY SAYING BACK THEN. MY FATHER, WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO GET ON A BOAT BUT WE WOULD GO OUT THERE AND GO FISH ON THE T-HEADS. AND BACK THEN, THERE WAS LIMITED SPACE FOR RESTROOMS. THIS SERVES THE PUBLIC, THIS SERVES THE COMMUNITY, THIS SERVES THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S FOR A CERTAIN CLASS OF PEOPLE. THIS WAS THE VISION OF THE COUNCIL BACK IN '21, '22 TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE FUNDS. AT THE TIME I THINK WE STILL HAD A LARGE SURPLUS IN THE SEAWALL FUNDS BECAUSE WE'D REPAIRED THE SEAWALL. WE REPAIRED ALL THESE OTHER FACILITIES AND WE NEEDED TO UTILIZE FUNDS AND THIS WAS A WAY TO GIVE THE FUNDS BACK TO THE PEOPLE. SO, ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE TYPE A FUNDS. THESE ARE TYPE A FUNDS SO TYPE A FUNDS ARE LIMITED TO THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN USE IT FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE MAY HAVE CHALLENGES WITH. >> Zanoni: THAT'S CORRECT. PLUS, THE TYPE A BOARD APPROVED THIS PROJECT AS WELL. >> Barrera: IN 2023, CORRECT? THAT WAS A VISION THAT HAPPENED IN 2022 -- OR ACTUALLY THE COUNCIL STARTED IN '23 BUT IT WAS STARTED BY '22. I HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THOSE THAT WE HAD LOOKED UPON. AND I REMEMBER WE HAD ALSO -- I THINK THE MAYOR HAD ADVOCATED BACK THEN IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO TRY AND GAIN SUPPORT SO WE COULD TRY AND HAVE THIS ATTRACTION THAT SEPARATES CORPUS CHRISTI FROM CITIES NATIONWIDE. OBVIOUSLY, I SUPPORT THIS. I JUST WANT TO GIVE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRIOR COUNCILS OF WHY THEY PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WHY THEY PROVIDED THIS AS A RESOURCE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST FOR THE YACHT CLUB. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: OKAY. I THINK WE ARE SUFFERING AND THIS IS NOTHING ON YOU. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND MONEY TO FIX THE MARINA. I GET IT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE LANGUAGE IN 2000 FOR WHAT DEFINED THE SEAWALL WAS VERY LOOSE IN THE SENSE THAT ANYTHING WITHIN I THINK 500 FEET OF THE SEAWALL IS CONSIDERED THE SEAWALL. SO WE HAVE SPENT SEAWALL FUNDS, WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS ARE SEAWALL FUNDS, TYPE A FUNDS, FROM THE 1/8TH CENT SALES TAX ON THINGS THAT WERE NOT THE SEAWALL. COLE PARK PIER WAS PART OF THAT. THE OFFICE AND RETAIL FACILITY. I'LL GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS. THAT BOAT HAUL OUT FACILITY, $8.7 MILLION. ART MUSEUM IMPROVEMENTS, ART CENTER REPAIRS, $1.3 MILLION. SEA DISTRICT WATER FEATURES, $1 MILLION. PARKING LOT RESURFACING FOR THE L-HEAD, $1.6 MILLION. HVAC SYSTEM, $3.5 MILLION. ART MUSEUM PIPING REPLACEMENT, $70,000. MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND HISTORY IMPROVEMENTS, $2.5 MILLION. MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND HISTORY HVAC, $1 MILLION. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE IS WHAT IS -- WE HAVE HAD A VERY -- THIS HAS BEEN A SLUSH FUND FOR PROJECTS ALONG THE MARINA OR ALONG THE SEAWALL. BUT NOT, VERY LITTLE ON THE SEAWALL RECENTLY. AND THERE'S A SECTION OVER THERE ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE ART MUSEUM THAT'S ALONG THE SHIP CHANNEL THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. JEFF, CAN YOU SAY THAT THAT SECTION OF THE SEAWALL HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED? >> Edmonds: YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PART THAT STARTS AT THE CORE OF ENGINEERS? >> Hernandez: YES. >> Edmonds: I THINK THERE WAS A VISION HAVING THAT CONTINUE THE WAY IT IS BEHIND THE ART MUSEUM, CONTINUE ON AROUND. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PORT NOW ON THE PORT'S INTEREST IN TAKING THAT PROJECT OVER. >> Hernandez: OKAY. BUT YOU SEE THE CHALLENGE OF HOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC TRUST OF WE'RE USING THE SEAWALL FUND FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE SEAWALL. >> Edmonds: I COULD SEE THAT. I WOULD OFFER A LITTLE CONTEXT. SO WHEN THEY PASSED THE 2000 BOND IS WHERE THAT SALES TAX WAS CREATED. AND AT THE TIME THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS, HUGE PROBLEMS WITH THE SEAWALL ITSELF. NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT LIKE THAT THE SALES TAX WAS ONLY DEDICATED TO THE SEAWALL AND TO FLOOD PROTECTION. BUT IN REALITY, THAT WAS THE ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR THAT TYPE A WAS ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY TRIED TO MAKE THE NEXUS BETWEEN TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE SEAWALL. IF YOU READ THE BOND LANGUAGE, THE BROCHURE LANGUAGE, THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TRYING TO MAKE THAT NEXUS. FLOOD CONTROL WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE TYPE A SALES TAX WAS PERMITTED FOR. WE'VE GOTTEN VARIOUS LEGAL INTERPRETATIONS ON THAT AS WE WENT ALONG. BUT I WOULD PROBABLY ARGUE THAT SOME OF THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT/TOURISM-TYPE FEATURES ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE TYPE A-AENABLING LEGISLATION THAN THE FLOOD CONTROL. >> Hernandez: YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROTECTION FOR THOSE ITEMS TO BEGIN WITH OR THEY'LL BE GONE WITH THE FIRST HURRICANE. >> Edmonds: OF COURSE. >> Hernandez: LOOK, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF HOW MUCH IS LEFT. THIS FUND EXPIRES -- >> Zanoni: I HAVE THE INFORMATION RIGHT HERE, COUNCILMAN. >> Hernandez: CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT? >> Zanoni: I SURE CAN. SO OUR TYPE B -- >> Hernandez: TYPE A. WE'RE LOOKING AT TYPE A FUNDING, SEAWALL FUNDING. >> Zanoni: JUST A SECOND HERE. >> Hernandez: WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN THE NORM. I DISAGREED WITH A LOT OF THESE EXPENDITURES BACK IN PREVIOUS COUNCILS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEEDED TO TAKE CARE OF THE SEAWALL THINGS FIRST. AND WE STILL HAVE SEAWALL THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I UNDERSTAND WE CHANGED THAT MONEY TO A MORE FLOOD CONTROL TYPE B FUNDING WHERE YOU COULD DO FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE SEAWALL AND THE ISLAND AND SOME OTHER MAJOR DRAINAGE ISSUES LIKE THE WILLIAMS DITCH, THE PROJECTS ALONG THE OSO CREEK. THERE'S THINGS THAT WE COULD DO HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO TELL PEOPLE IT'S A SEAWALL FUND, WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE SEAWALL. AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. BUT GO AHEAD, PETER. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. SO IN THE OLD TYPE A SEAWALL, THERE'S A REMAINING BALANCE OF $852,000. >> Hernandez: SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE $6 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN TO THIS PROJECT? >> Zanoni: THAT IS ASSUMED THAT $6 MILLION IS SPENT. YES. >> Hernandez: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: SO, I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP THAT BASICALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE SEAWALL. AND I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THAT WE HAD BACK THEN IS THAT -- AND I AGREE WITH YOU, JEFF. WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR WAS REALLY AN ECONOMIC DEVICE. THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS THAT COUNCIL LABELED IT WITH A NAME THAT MADE IT BASICALLY APPEAR TO BE ASSOCIATED ONLY WITH THE SEAWALL. WE SPENT HOW MANY MONTHS? WE OPENED IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAD A WORKSHOP AT THE AMERICAN BANK CENTER AND WE INVITED THE COMMUNITY IN AND WE TALKED AND WE MADE THE DECISION HOW WE WERE GOING TO CHANGE. AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT 1, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANYBODY HERE ON THIS COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN HARDER ON THE MARINA AND PARKS AND REC ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOWN THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NEEDED AND WHAT ISN'T NEEDED. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PLAN -- AND THEY WERE LOOKING AT ONE POINT IN TIME OF MOVING THE STREET ON SHORELINE, DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? AND PUTTING THE SHADE STRUCTURES AND DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WAS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN COMPARISON TO THE REST OF THE CITY -- I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ISLAND. I'M A LITTLE HEATED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S TIMES WHEN I KNOW I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR DISTRICT 1 AND I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR DOWNTOWN AND I HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THOSE THINGS. BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY DOES THEIR HOMEWORK AND NOT EVERYBODY SITS THERE AND LOOKS AT THE ORIGIN OF THESE THINGS. I HAPPEN TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE SINCE '17 AND BEING A PART OF THAT. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S EVOLVED, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW OUR DOCKS HAVE FALLEN APART, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESTROOMS AND THE ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD, WHAT WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW, WITH THAT $6 MILLION, AT THE END OF DOING THE PRE-ENGINEERING, THE ENGINEERING, THIS IS A PLAN. WHEN YOU PUT A PLAN IN PLACE, YOU GO FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN. IF WE STOP THAT PLAN RIGHT NOW AND WE PULL BACK FROM THAT, WE'VE WASTED ALL THE MONEY, TIME, AND THE COST IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO UP. BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THESE GUYS HAVEN'T ASKED FOR A LOT. THEY PULLED A LOT OFF THE TABLE AND WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE IS A NECESSITY TO CONTINUE THE PLAN THAT I HAVE TO REMIND EVERYBODY WAS VOTED BY THE PEOPLE. ARE WE GOING TO SIT HERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW SAY WE KNOW BETTER THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE DID WHEN THEY VOTED FOR THIS PROJECT? I THINK THAT'S A DANGEROUS PRECEDENCE TO HAVE. AND I HOPE WE WOULD SEE THROUGH THAT. IF WE WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, LET'S ASK QUESTIONS BUT I WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OF DISTRICT 1 THAT THIS PROJECT IS VITAL AND IT'S NOT FLUFF. IT'S NOT EXTRAVAGANT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BOOST THE YACHT CLUB. IT'S GOING FOR VITAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NEEDED IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. I WAS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. AND I'M STILL GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS -- WE CAN WALK, CHEW GUM, DO EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME. WE CAN PROVIDE WATER AND WE ARE PROVIDING WATER FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. AND THAT COMES FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FUND, NOT FROM TYPE A. BUT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO STRETCH THE DEFINITION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WEREN'T WE ALSO INCLUDING -- IS IT STREETS? SOME OF OUR INDUSTRIAL STREETS? IS IT COMING FROM TYPE A OR TYPE B? >> Zanoni: YEAH. TYPE B. >> Campos: SO WE ARE TRYING -- AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MARINA AND THIS IS A PUBLIC ISSUE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE THAT USE THE BAYFRONT CONSTANTLY. THE BAYFRONT IS USED -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WALK THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO RESTROOMS AND BE ABLE TO UPKEEP THAT. YOU KNOW, YES, I MOSTLY LIVE IN DISTRICT 2 BUT I KNOW THE BAY IS OUR GEM. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. $6MILLION FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY VOTER APPROVED, I WILL DEFINITELY BE SUPPORTING. I HOPE THAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS CHANGE THEIR MIND AND THEY SUPPORT THIS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND. I WILL TELL YOU I SUPPORT YOUR PROJECT. I THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE. BUT I'M JUST SAYING NOW IS NOT THE TIME BECAUSE OF OUR CREDIT RATING, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING. YOU KNOW, EVERETT SAYS $6 MILLION IS NOT THAT MUCH. IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT MUCH TO HIM, IT'S NOT HIS MONEY HE'S SPENDING. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE WITH YOU. $6MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT'S TAXPAYER MONEY. TO ME, MY PROBLEM IS THIS: WE NEED TO FIX THE SEAWALL, JUST LIKE WE TALKED THIS MORNING. THAT PROJECT WAS OLD TOO AND WE FORGOT ABOUT IT. WE ARE NOT PUTTING OUR PRIORITIES IN ORDER BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING PRETTY. IT'S NOT ABOUT PRETTY, IT'S ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS AND PROTECTING OUR CITY. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WANT IT AND I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO PASS. CONGRATULATIONS. I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: PETER, THANK YOU FOR THE FIGURE. $852,000. >> Zanoni: $852,000, YES, MA'AM. AND THAT'S BY DESIGN. THIS TYPE A, THE OLD TYPE A HAS BEEN KIND OF EXHAUSTED, IF YOU WILL, OR PLANNED OUT. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT A RENEWAL TO THE VOTERS. SO THAT'S THE TYPE B. THAT 1/8TH CENT THAT WAS JUST FOR THE SEAWALL NOW HAS MORE APPLICABILITY. WE WERE VERY CAREFUL IN MAKING SURE IT WAS MUCH CLEARER EXACTLY WHERE DOES THE SEAWALL STOP. SO THERE'S MAPS THAT ARE INCLUDED. I THINK WE HAD LANGUAGE OF SO MANY FEET FROM THE SEAWALL. SO IT'S CLEAR. I WASN'T HERE WHEN WE DID THE FIRST TYPE A SEAWALL SALES TAX BUT HEARING THESE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS, WHEN WE DEVELOPED THE TYPE B 1/8TH CENT REAUTHORIZATION, WE WERE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT IS THE SEAWALL. SO THE VOTERS HAVE A CLEARER UNDERSTANDING AS DID THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME. >> Paxson: I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WHEN IT WAS FIRST BEING PROPOSED IT HAD SIMILAR LANGUAGE TO THE PREVIOUS. I UNDERSTAND YOU WEREN'T THERE FOR THAT AND A LOT OF US STEPPED FORWARD AND SAID IT NEEDED TO HAVE SOME MORE BROAD APPLICATIONS. BECAUSE THE REALITY IS IT'S PAID FOR BY THE ENTIRE CITY. >> Zanoni: CORRECT. >> Paxson: SO WITH THE ENTIRE CITY PAYING INTO IT, HAVING THE VERSATILITY, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IS MUCH MORE IDEAL. $852,000, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SEAWALL ON THE ISLAND, WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD GO VERY FAR. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS TEAM HAS BEEN ASKED TO PRODUCE THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS AND CONTINUALLY IS TRYING TO PULL THAT FROM ANY SOURCE WE CAN. WE HAD A LOT SITTING IN A MAINTENANCE FUND FOR THE SEAWALL AND IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. I THINK THAT PERHAPS WHEN THIS ITEM CAME ABOUT THERE WAS A LOT SITTING IN THERE FOR THE SEAWALL AND MUCH LIKE ALL OF OUR OTHER DISCUSSIONS, WE SAID WE CAN AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT IN THIS POSITION ANY LONGER AND THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST OUR MARINAS. PLEASE DON'T MISTAKE ME. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. I KNOW THEY'RE HIGHLY UTILIZED BUT WHEN WE WERE ELECTED, FOR MYSELF AT LEAST, BUT I KNOW I SPEAK FOR OTHERS, SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SAID WE HAVE GOT TO PROTECT OUR PRIORITIES IN THIS TOWN, WHICH HUGELY ARE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND TO ME THAT HAS TO BE THE HIGHER PRIORITY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING A CHALLENGE WITH THIS WHEN IT'S STATED THIS WAS A VOTER-APPROVED ITEM. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS DID NOT GO TO BALLOT. THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. CAN ANYONE REFUTE THAT? I BELIEVE THE SALES TAX WENT TO BALLOT BUT I DON'T THINK THIS ONE DID. >> Zanoni: I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT. >> Paxson: THE SALES TAX BUT NOT THIS PROJECT. >> Zanoni: YOU'RE PROBABLY CORRECT. >> Paxson: I DON'T THINK -- WHILE I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND IMPORTANT, I DON'T THINK IT WENT TO A BALLOT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS A VOTER-APPROVED PROJECT, IF YOU WILL. AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS, SUCH AS A HOT TAX EXPENSE. SUCH AS OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A TOURISM PIECE. IT IS SUCH AN AMENITY TO US. I'M JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF USING OUR PROTECTION FUNDS, OUR MECHANISM TO DEFEND OUR SEAWALL AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR THIS. >> Zanoni: CAN I JUST ADD THE SEAWALL, WHEN WE PROGRAMMED THIS AND WORKED WITH THE TYPE A BOARD YEARS AGO UNDER THE THEN-CITY COUNCIL. THE SEAWALL WAS IN GOOD SHAPE. IT STILL IS. THE DOWNTOWN SEAWALL. JEFF HAS PROGRAMMED A COUPLE OF PROJECTS TO GET IT SAFE. SO THE DOWNTOWN SEAWALL IS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE RIGHT NOW WITH REGULAR MAINTENANCE USING THIS FUND. THE NEW 1/8TH CENT HAS THE SEAWALL AS A PRIORITY SO IT'S FUNDED AGAIN. THAT FUND HAS $4.8 MILLION ANTICIPATED FOR THE REST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, OF NEW 1/8TH CENT MONIES. WHILE THIS ONE IS BEING DEPLETED OR USED, THERE'S ANOTHER $4.8 MILLION COMING IN FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR CITYWIDE, INCLUDING THE SEAWALL, PADRE ISLAND. >> Paxson: THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. WHEN I WALK THE SEAWALL, I DON'T EVER REALLY FEAR FOR ANYTHING STRUCTURALLY. HOWEVER, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS ON IT THAT HAVE CONTINUALLY BEEN SUBMERGED. I GET CONCERNED ABOUT SLIPPING HAZARDS ALONG THE SEAWALL. I THINK THAT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION. THERE'S ALSO A WHOLE SECTION THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW THAT DIDN'T GET ANY REPAIR. AND WE HAVE MASSIVELY WORKED ON THAT SHIP CHANNEL. SO WHAT IS THE DISPLACEMENT OR THE DEPTH CHANGE AND THE HEIGHT CHANGE WITH THE BRIDGE AND THE TYPE OF VESSELS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING THROUGH THAT CHANNEL. PART OF THAT SEAWALL IS RIGHT THERE FOR A LOT OF THAT DISRUPTION THAT WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED. SURE. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THE MAIN SEAWALL OR, AS WE CALL IT, IS NOT IN BAD SHAPE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE FULL PICTURE OF IT. AND ALSO THE POINT OF A RAINY-DAY FUND IS TO HAVE ONE. THE POINT OF A RAINY-DAY FUND OR A MAINTENANCE FUND IS TO HAVE ONE. >> Zanoni: THIS FUND WAS TO BE PUT IN PRODUCTION. THE TYPE A AND TYPE B IS TO DO PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY DO HAVE SOME RESERVE ACCOUNTS FOR REGULAR MAINTENANCE. THERE IS SOME MONEY, I THINK IT'S $2 MILLION OR SO, FOR THAT BACK SIDE OF THE SEAWALL THAT HERNANDEZ AND YOU MENTIONED. WE JUST MET ABOUT A MONTH AGO WITH KENT BRITON FROM THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI. THEY HAD A PROJECT. WE DELAYED THAT ONE TO PAIR IT UP WITH THEIR PROJECT. NOW THAT THE BRIDGE IS BEING DEMOLISHED, THEY WANT TO PARTNER BACK UP WITH US. WE'LL HAVE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI FUNDS AND OUR TYPE A FUNDS AND THE NEW TYPE B FUNDS TO COMPLETE THAT SECTION OF THE WALL BACK THERE. >> Paxson: THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO PLEASE, PARKS AND REC, LOVE THE PROJECT. LOVE OUR DOWNTOWN. I KNOW IT GETS USED A LOT. MY CONCERN IS INFRASTRUCTURE AS A HIGH PRIORITY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THANK YOU, MAYOR. HOW BIG IS THIS BUILDING, SQUARE FOOTAGE-WISE? >> Edmonds: 3500 SQUARE FEET, TWO STORY. >> Cantu: 3500 SQUARE FEET. $5.2MILLION. WOW. ON THE $1.48 MILLION FOR THE PARKING LOT, ARE WE USING A LOCAL COMPANY FOR THAT? >> Edmonds: THIS WAS ALL ONE BID AND BEECROFT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY WE'RE RECOMMENDING AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO. LOCAL COMPANY. >> Cantu: WITH ALL THIS MONEY WE'RE SPENDING, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THAT BUILDING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING IN THAT T-HEAD. I SEE A LOT OF CALLS WITH THE BOAT. DO WE HAVE A SECTION FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A BOAT THERE? WE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY. >> YEAH. WE WELCOME THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BRING A BOAT DOWN. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT TO MAKE SURE IT ADHERES TO ALL THE FIRE CODES. THEY UTILIZE THE PUBLIC BOAT RAMP. IT'S THE ONLY BOAT RAMP ON THE BAYFRONT AND THAT IS WHERE ALL EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE LAUNCHED FROM FROM ANY EMERGENCY IN THE BAY OR ANYTHING IS RETRIEVED FROM. THIS IS THE FACILITY THEY WALK ACROSS AND UTILIZE THEMSELVES AND ANYBODY THAT UTILIZES THAT AREA. WHETHER IT'S RESTROOMS OR SHOWERS OR OTHERWISE. >> Cantu: IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND WE'RE PAYING FOR 3500 SQUARE FEET. >> THIS WAS RAISED, PER NEW FLOODPLAIN CODES, IT HAS TO BE ELEVATED TO COMPLY WITH THOSE CODES. IN 2004 WHEN THE OTHER FACILITIES WERE BUILT, THAT WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT AND THEY WERE BUILT ON BASE. SOME OF THE INCREASED COST YOU WILL SEE FOR ANY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BUILT ALONG WATERFRONT IS BUILT TO THESE NEW FLOODPLAIN REQUIREMENTS. I HAVE TO CONFIRM BUT I BELIEVE THE ELEVATION IS 14 FEET IN THE AIR, WHICH IS ALMOST THE ELEVATION OF THE SEAWALL. >> Cantu: I GET IT. THE BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY TRASHED OUT. I UNDERSTAND IT. I GET IT BUT YOU COULD BUILD SOMETHING DECENT FOR LESS THAN $5 MILLION FOR 3500 SQUARE FEET. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. I THINK Y'ALL ARE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY. YOU'RE LETTING THESE CONTRACTORS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO YOU GUYS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. PAYING SO MUCH MONEY FOR A BUILDING. LIKE EVERY BUILDING Y'ALL BUILD IS LIKE 5, 6, 7, $8 MILLION. IT BLOWS MY MIND AND IT BLOWS THE TAXPAYERS' MINDS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR MONEY. JUST CRAZY. LIKE, WHEN DOES IT STOP? WHEN DO Y'ALL GET OTHER VENDORS, PEOPLE TO BID ON STUFF? WHAT ABOUT HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND KNOCK OUT THE RED TAPE FOR ONCE? THERE'S PLENTY OF SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WOULD LOVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH CORPUS CHRISTI BUT YOU GUYS HAVE TOO MUCH RED TAPE. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH. >> Edmonds: ALL I CAN SAY TO THAT, WE PUBLICLY ADVERTISE ALL OF OUR BIDS. >> Cantu: Y'ALL WANT THEM TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION THIS BIG. IT'S RIDICULOUS. BUT ANYHOW, I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR 3500 SQUARE FEET. $5MILLION -- I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS, ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS ON TOP OF THAT. IT'S CRAZY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: PETER, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND ONE THING. RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF FUNDING FOR FUTURE SEAWALL PROJECTS, FOR ANYTHING. MAINTENANCE AND OTHERWISE. WHAT IS OUR FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THAT? >> Zanoni: FOR FLOOD CONTROL? >> Roy: FOR TAKING CARE OF ANYTHING. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT PART OF GOING BACK AND HAVING COUNCIL LOOK AT IDENTIFYING OUR FLOOD CONTROL IS THAT WE EXPANDED THAT. WE EXPANDED THAT. IN THE PAST, IF I UNDERSTOOD THIS RIGHT, UNDER THE OLD WAY, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT NORTH BEACH. >> Zanoni: THAT'S CORRECT. >> Roy: WE STARTED TAKING A LOOK AT THE ISLAND FOR FLOOD CONTROL. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Roy: WHAT I DON'T WANT THE PROJECT TO THINK RIGHT NOW, IF WE DO THIS PROJECT AT $6 MILLION, NOW WE ONLY HAVE $842,000 IN OUR COFFERS TO TAKE CARE OF ANY FUTURE ISSUES WITH -- >> Zanoni: CORRECT. SO THIS IS THE OLD TYPE A THAT IS NOW EXPIRING. >> Roy: IT'S SUNSETTING. >> Zanoni: THE VOTERS, IN NOVEMBER OF '25 -- '24. APPROVED A RENEWAL OF THAT 1/8TH CENT AND BROADENED THE APPLICATION. IT'S STILL FOR FLOOD CONTROL. THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS THE DOWNTOWN SEAWALL. >> Roy: SO WE'RE NOT IGNORING FLOOD CONTROL. >> Zanoni: NO, 100% IS FOR FLOOD CONTROL. THIS ONE, AND COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON SAID IT CORRECTLY. INITIALLY WE HAD OTHER ITEMS ALONG THE SEAWALL BUT THOSE WERE REMOVED SO WE COULD USE THE MONEY CITYWIDE FOR FLOOD CONTROL. PADRE ISLAND, NORTH BEACH, ALL ALONG THE BAYFRONT WHERE THERE'S MASSIVE EROSION HAPPENING. IN FACT, WE IDENTIFIED IN THE VOTER'S GUIDE EVERY PROJECT ACROSS THE CITY, CALALLEN, SPID. >> Roy: YOU SAID $4.8 MILLION. >> Zanoni: $4.8 MILLION. >> Roy: WE PASSED IT BUT IT DOESN'T COME INTO EFFECT UNTIL APRIL AND THEN WE HAVE A MECHANISM IN PLACE. HOW LONG IS THAT MECHANISM IN PLACE? . >> Zanoni: IT'S A 20-YEAR TAX. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BRING TO CITY COUNCIL IN THESE COMING MONTHS OF HOW DO WE WANT TO PROGRAM THAT MONEY. BECAUSE WE COULD LEVERAGE MORE PROJECTS IMMEDIATELY THROUGH SOME DEBT ISSUANCE OR DO PAY-AS-YOU-GO. THERE WAS A LIST OF RECOMMENDED PROJECTS. WE NEED TO SEE DOES THE COUNCIL WANT TO DO THOSE FIRST OR SUBSTITUTE THEM WITH ANOTHER PROJECT. >> Roy: MORE THAN ANYTHING, I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT SITTING THERE TAKING OUR COFFERS DOWN TO $842,000 TO TAKE CARE OF THE SEAWALL. >> Zanoni: THAT'S CORRECT. >> Roy: THAT WAS A FUND THAT HAD TO BE DEPLETED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. WHEN WE VOTED ON THIS, WE DECIDED AT THAT POINT IN TIME HOW MUCH TO LEAVE IN THERE, RIGHT? >> Zanoni: WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT EVER GOT -- >> Roy: I'M TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL. COUNCIL GAVE THE DIRECTION ON WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE TO KEEP IN THERE AS A BALANCE. >> Zanoni: RIGHT. >> Roy: AGAIN, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT SOME OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL AS FAR AS WHAT WE PAY FOR THINGS TO GET THESE BUILDINGS DONE AND OUR BIDS. IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE LOOK AT CHILLERS AND THE COST OF THINGS FOR ANIMAL SHELTER AND THAT. WE PAY MORE. >> Zanoni: WE DO. >> Roy: I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER FOR THAT. >> Zanoni: WE DO. YOU'RE PAYING FOR -- WE HAVE TO PAY A FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE. WE REQUIRE INSURANCE AND BONDING TO PROTECT TAXPAYER MONEY. THERE'S A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT MOST CITIES AND STATE GOVERNMENTS AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS PUT IN PLACE THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOESN'T DO. >> Roy: AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE KNOW WE DO CARE ABOUT OUR SEAWALL AND MAKING SURE WE PROTECT ALL OF CORPUS CHRISTI. >> Zanoni: I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. IT'S ACTUALLY A 25-YEAR TAX, NOT 20. THE NEW TYPE B 1/8TH CENT FOR FLOOD CONTROL IS A 25-YEAR PROGRAM. >> Roy: WOULD YOU SAY THE FUTURE OF US FUNDING OUR SEAWALL PROJECTS IS BRIGHT? >> Zanoni: IT'S BRIGHT AND EXPANDED. WE TOLD THE RESIDENTS AT THE ISLAND THAT WE CAN USE -- WE COULDN'T BEFORE. THIS OLD TYPE A FUND COULDN'T BE USED. >> Roy: IT COULDN'T BE USED ON NORTH BEACH. >> Zanoni: WE SAW THE EROSION HAPPENING. THAT 1/8TH CENT CAN BE USED ON NORTH BEACH, DOWNTOWN, PADRE, CALALLEN, THE WEST SIDE, THE EAST SIDE. SURE CAN. FOR FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS. THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL WILL LOOK INTO WHEN WE BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE COMING WEEKS. >> Roy: AGAIN, I THINK I KNOW THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. I KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT UP UNTIL THIS POINT AND THE ENERGY AND THE THINGS THAT WE PUT INTO IT. I THINK IT'S WELL DESERVED FOR THE PEOPLE OF CORPUS CHRISTI. AND I WOULD HOPE AGAIN THAT MY COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER IT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC GOT TO SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, A PICTURE SPEAKS A THOUSAND WORDS OR WHATEVER. IT'S PRETTY BLEAK. I MEAN, WHAT YOU ALL HAVE RIGHT NOW. BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND ALSO THE PUBLIC HOW WE HAVE IMPROVED AND EXPANDED THE RESTROOM AREA IN NORTH BEACH. MOST OF US WERE THERE TO DO THAT RIBBON CUTTING AND TO CELEBRATE THAT. AND THE RESIDENTS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN TO NORTH BEACH ARE REALLY ENJOYING THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO JEFF. OKAY JEFF. IF WE -- ARE THERE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NOT FULFILLING FOR THE SEAWALL PROJECT AT THIS TIME? IT WOULD BE YOU, RIGHT? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE DO BRING SEAWALL PROJECTS? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR SEAWALL. >> Edmonds: IF A PROJECT IS APPROVED IN THE CIP, IT BECOMES OUR JOB TO DELIVER THAT PROJECT. AND THOSE CAN TAKE MULTIPLE YEARS TO BRING THOSE PROJECTS TO CONSTRUCTION. WE'LL BE FIRST BRINGING A DESIGN CONTRACT WITH AN ARCHITECTURE ENGINEER AND WE ADVERTISE FOR BIDS AND BRING THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS. >> Campos: I JUST WANT, AGAIN, TO REASSURE THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR SEAWALL. THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUTSTANDING PROJECTS THAT WE ARE NOT FUNDING. >> Edmonds: ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE HAVE PUT THOSE DOLLARS, THE PROGRAM FOR EXISTING CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE MOVED INTO CAPITAL FUND AND THEY ARE ALLOCATED FOR THOSE PROJECTS. WE HAVE PROGRAMMED THOSE CAPITAL DOLLARS FOR THE BALANCE OF THIS TYPE A. THE OLD TYPE A TAX. >> Campos: WE ARE COVERED. >> Edmonds: YOU ARE COVERED. I WOULD ADD THIS WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHEN THIS CAME UP. SO IN 2000, THE SEAWALL WAS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. IT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION, THE 1941 CONSTRUCTION. AND COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF WALKING AROUND. WELL, THE SIDEWALKS WERE COLLAPSING ALL AROUND. IT WAS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE. THEY NEEDED A WAY TO FUND A MAJOR PROGRAM TO REHAB THE SEAWALL. THAT'S WHY THEY PASSED THAT 2000 REFERENDUM, CREATED THAT TAX. NOW, THAT PROJECT, THERE WAS A SERIES OF PROJECTS THAT TOOK PLACE OVER ABOUT SIX YEARS THAT FINISHED UP AROUND 2006. AND AT THAT TIME IT WAS $45 MILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION THEY DID TO RECAPITALIZE THAT SEAWALL. IT IS WAY BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. THEY PUT A NEW SHEET PILE BEHIND AND A NEW SHEET PILE IN FRONT OF THE SEAWALL AND FILLED ALL OF THOSE VOIDS. AT THAT POINT THEY ESTIMATED THEY PUT 50 YEARS OF LIFE ON THE SEAWALL. AT LEAST. >> Campos: SO WE ARE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE ISLAND. WE JUST MADE THAT MOTION. AGAIN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LEAVING OUT -- LIKE I KEEP SAYING, WE KEEP LEAVING OUT LIKE A DONUT IN OUR CITY. WE DO IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, ON THE NORTH SIDE AND WE DO IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE BUT NOT CENTER. NOT FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT VISIT CORPUS CHRISTI. AGAIN, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT ALL BASES ARE COVERED. THAT WE DO HAVE THE MONEY AND THE VOTERS DID APPROVE THIS AND WE'RE JUST EXPANDING OUT THE LANGUAGE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. ANYWAY, CALL THE QUESTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: I JUST FINALLY GET TO TALK AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. LOOK, I GET IT. I'M SENSITIVE TO EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS. I SUPPORT IT. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE WRAPAROUND. I THINK THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO ME IS WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE. AND I HOPE IT'S GOT A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE TO IT. I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN GETTING AN UPDATE ON THAT, WHENEVER Y'ALL GET AROUND TO IT. I DON'T WANT TO BESMIRCH BEECROFT. THEY'RE A BUSINESS. THEY USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS. THE BEECROFT CONSTRUCTION IS A HIGHLY REPUTABLE COMPANY. IF WE DO IT, I THINK WE CAN FEEL GOOD THAT SAM BEECROFT, SHE'S A DOCTOR IN TOWN. THEY HIRE LOCAL, THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH BEECROFT. WE'RE GOING TO GET A GREAT PRODUCT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO. MY INTEREST IS -- I CALL IT THE WRAPAROUND. THERE'S A BETTER WORD. AT ONE TIME WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOOD CONTROL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CANAL AND IT HAD A NAME. THE IDEA BEING -- >> Zanoni: SOUTH FLATS LEVEE. >> Scott: IT MAY BE IN THE CIP PROGRAM I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT, SO JUST GIVE ME A HEADS UP ON THAT. BY THE WAY, REALLY INTERESTING VIEWS FROM THAT SECOND FLOOR. I KNOW THERE'S A WALK AROUND AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME INTERESTING VIEWS FOR OUR BOATERS THAT COME INTO TOWN TO COMPETE AND WATCH PEOPLE COME AND GO. I'M IN. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: HOW MUCH HAVE WE ALREADY SPENT IN ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE COSTS? >> Edmonds: I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER WITH ME BUT 10% PROJECT COST. >> Barrera: WE HAVE ALREADY PAID $600,000? >> Edmonds: YEAH. >> Barrera: $600,000 TO GET THIS FAR. AND THEN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS PUT ON THE CIP WHEN? THEY'RE LOOKING. >> I BELIEVE THIS WAS STARTED IN 2022. '23 THE CONTRACT WAS APPROVED AND WE HAVE BEEN DESIGNING SINCE THEN. >> Barrera: I KNOW. SO, PETER, HOW MANY STAFF HOURS DO YOU THINK WE PUT INTO THIS? >> Zanoni: QUITE A BIT. I DON'T HAVE IT CALCULATED BUT I KNOW WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING FROM THE PRIOR -- I THINK TWO COUNCILS AGO. >> Barrera: YEAH. >> Zanoni: A LOT OF WORK WAS DONE TO EVEN PICK THE ARCHITECT PRIOR, LOOKING AT THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN MAPS, LOOKING AT ELEVATION, WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON DESIGN. I THINK, AS COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS SAID, IT'S NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE YACHT CLUB, IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY GO DOWN THERE A LOT TO FISH. WHEN I GO DOWN THERE TO SEE HOW JONATHAN IS DOING, I SEE LOCAL FOLKS FISHING, ENJOYING AN ASSET. THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO USE THIS AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE. >> Barrera: YOU SEE BOATERS THAT DON'T HAVE A MEMBERSHIP AT THE YACHT CLUB, THEY UTILIZE IT. THEY GO OUT THERE. I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE CHERRY PICK PROJECTS. THE THING IS THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT POCKETS OF MONEY FOR EACH ONE. THE COUNCIL GIVES YOU A DIRECTIVE. WE GAVE YOU A DIRECTIVE FIVE YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, GAVE YOU A DIRECTIVE -- OR FOUR YEARS AGO. WHATEVER IT WAS. AND SAID, OKAY, WHERE CAN WE FIND THE FUNDS TO DO THIS? THAT'S THE FOCUS OF THE COUNCIL. I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS THIS COUNCIL LOOK AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN SO THAT WAY THE CIP, INSTEAD OF EXHAUSTING $600,000 AND STAFF TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER WHEN IT'S ON THE CIP. SO THAT WAY WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK MAYBE WHEN WE DO GO OVER OUR WORKSHOPS, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE WE PROBABLY SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS ALREADY PUTTING THIS -- BECAUSE IT'S AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. AND PLUS THE TYPE A AND TYPE B BOARD, TAKING THEIR TIME, TAKING LEGAL TIME, GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE LOOK AT -- WE DID IT TODAY. YOU GOT CREATIVE WITH $11 MILLION, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A RESOURCE TO A COMMUNITY THAT'S HARSHLY NEEDED, OF WHICH I SUPPORTED. I'M GOING TO DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT. THAT WAS THE EXACT PROJECT FOR THAT SEAWALL ON THE ISLAND WHEN MIKE PUSLEY SAID I GUESS ROLAND IS RUNNING AT-LARGE NOW. I WAS AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT PROJECT. COUNCILMAN SUCKLEY WAS A BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO GET DONE AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE FOUND OTHER RESOURCES. FROM TIRZ MONEY, WE'RE GIVING $7 MILLION TO THE COUNTY FOR A PAVILION. $7MILLION TO THE COUNTY OF WHICH THEY SAID THEY NEEDED 5. THEY CAME BACK AND ASKED FOR 2. THAT'S A DIFFERENT POCKET OF MONEY AND THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. THAT WAS A TIRZ THAT THIS COUNCIL PUT TOGETHER, THE COUNTY, DEL MAR, WHOEVER PARTICIPATED. AND THEY EMPOWERED US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. JUST THE SAME WITH THIS MORNING WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO GIVE $2 MILLION TO BE PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY. IT'S A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF FUNDS. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY VOTER APPROVED BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS CONFIDENCE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING. I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN I THINK YEAH AND WE WANT TO QUESTION THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS -- HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? A MINUTE AND 39. THE ADDED COST, OFTEN TO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, IS TRANSPARENCY. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE -- IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN GO I GOT A BUDDY OR SOMEBODY GIVE ME A RECOMMENDATION. IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN GO ON, YOU KNOW, ONLINE OR ANGIE'S LIST. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS OF WHICH INDIVIDUALS NEED TO KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE -- WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS LEVEL OF BUREAUCRACY. SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO BROTHER-IN-LAW DEALS OR SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO COERCE. UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE ASSETS THAT BELONG TO THE COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE TO BE BONDED AND HAVE INSURANCE. WHEREAS A SELF-PERFORMER MIGHT SAY I'VE GOT THE INSURANCE. THERE ARE SEVERAL DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. WELL, THEY CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT BUT WE'RE A PUBLIC AGENCY AND WE DON'T WORK THAT WAY. SO THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THIS WAS A GREAT PROJECT WHEN WE FIRST CAME UP WITH IT. IT'S STILL A GREAT PROJECT AND I JUST WANT US TO CONTINUE TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT THIS IS THE PUBLIC TRUST. WE HAVE HAD ALL THESE MEETINGS OVER ALL THESE YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR ALL THESE YEARS. AND ALL THE TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, I HAVE YET -- WHEN I WAS DISTRICT 3 COUNCILMAN, NOBODY EVER CAME BACK TO ME AND SAID, HEY, DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ AND THEN WE'RE VOTING. >> Hernandez: OKAY. JUST FOR YOUR REFERENCE, HOW MUCH OF THE SEAWALL FUND HAS BEEN USED IN THE MARINA? >> SO WE HAVE SPENT $22 MILLION ON DOCKS. A, B, C, D, AND L. THOSE DOCKS WERE BUILT IN '94 AND THEY WERE FALLING APART. RECENTLY WE PUT ANOTHER $7 MILLION INTO THE PEOPLE'S STREET BOARDWALK, WHICH IS A MAIN LINE, MAIN WALKABLE LINE FROM THE SEAWALL. BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT MONTH. >> Hernandez: THE BOAT HAUL OUT, HOW MUCH? >> THAT CONTRACT WILL COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND IT WAS ESTIMATED FOR $8 MILLION FOR THE HAUL-OUT FACILITY. IT WILL ALSO HAVE A RETAIL SPACE RIGHT ON THE SEAWALL. WHICH WILL BE ONE OF THE ONLY ONES, BESIDES THE ONE IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN BANK CENTER THAT HAS ACCESS DIRECTLY TO THE SEAWALL FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME AND ENJOY. >> Hernandez: THE DREDGING? >> THE DREDGING WAS INCLUDED IN THE A, B, C, D, AND L PROJECT. UNLESS YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ONE FROM 2021 AND I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK THOSE NUMBERS. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO WE HAVE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FROM THE SEAWALL FUND ON THE MARINA, CORRECT? >> YES. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE LIFE OF THE MARINA, SINCE 1940. >> Hernandez: I GET IT. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NO FAULT ON YOU. YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THE MARINA. I WAS IN THE NAVY FOR 13 YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANT TO BE IS ON THE WATER. I HAD A LIFETIME OF BEING ON THE WATER. HOWEVER, AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE, IS THAT WE HAVE UNFINISHED PROJECTS ON THE SEAWALL. SO INSTEAD OF USING THE PREVIOUS SEAWALL FUNDS, WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE USING THE NEW FUNDS. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT WRAPAROUND ON THE ART MUSEUM WHERE IT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED, THAT IS PART OF THE SEAWALL, WE ARE MOVING $10 MILLION, $10.3 MILLION FROM TYPE A, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID FOR FROM TYPE A, OVER TO THE NEW TYPE B SEAWALL FUND BECAUSE WE USED THAT FUNDING TO PAY FOR YOUR PROJECTS IN THE MARINA. AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS. OKAY. AND THIS IS THE CHALLENGE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THESE PET PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND THAT'S FINE. AND THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTED THE STAFF TO PAY FOR THESE PET PROJECTS. AND NICE TO HAVE PROJECTS AND NOT THE PROTECTION OF THE SEAWALL. I DON'T BLAME YOU, I BLAME PETER BECAUSE THIS WAS UNDER HIS DIRECTION. THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST YOU OR PARKS. YOU GUYS WERE TOLD TO DO THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE POINT THAT OUT. THERE'S NOT A TIME THAT WOULD GO TO THAT PORTION OF THE SEAWALL THIS YEAR. IT'S SCHEDULED FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR 2027. WITH TYPE B FUNDING. THANK YOU. >> Barrera: I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE TIME, I'M GOING TO -- I'M MOVING ITEM 31 UP TO BE HEARD NOW AT THE REQUEST OF OUR POLICE CHIEF BECAUSE OF SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS. OUR OFFICERS HAVE. CHIEF MARKLE OR BLACKMON, WHO IS COMING UP? >> [OFF MIC] >> Hernandez: PRESENTATION FROM THE ATTORNEYS THAT WE HIRED. IT WOULD BE UNFAIR FOR US TO HAVE ALL THIS TO PIECE OUT THIS INFORMATION. >> Campos: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: TO POSTPONE THE BRIEFING? >> Hernandez: RIGHT. WE'RE SCHEDULED TO GET THE REPORT FROM THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, FROM DANIEL SCOTT, IN MID-FEBRUARY. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN A BAD SPOT. SO I MAKE A MOTION WE POSTPONE UNTIL WE GET THE BRIEFING. >> Campos: I SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. I DON'T SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIDE HERE. IT WAS A REPORT. IT WAS COMPLETED IN DECEMBER. IT'S AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. LIKE IT, DON'T LIKE IT. I THINK IT DESERVES TO SEE THE LIGHT OF THE DAY. I DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH POSTPONING A REPORT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, THAT'S BEEN WORKED ON BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IS READY TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC. FULL DISCLOSURE, I DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE REPORT SO I WAS JUST KIND OF WAITING. I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT HAVING THIS ON THE AGENDA, TELLING THE WORLD THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE THE REPORT, AND THEN GOING, NO. WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND -- WE'RE GOING TO WAIT. I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE OF DELAYING. I GET THERE'S ANOTHER REPORT COMING, I GUESS. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A FRAUD REPORT BUT YOU'RE READY TO SHARE IT? >> I'M READY. >> Scott: IT'S A CLOSED REPORT. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW AND I THINK THEY WANT TO KNOW. THAT'S THE QUESTION I GET IS WHEN DO THEY GET TO SEE THE REPORT. >> Mayor Guajardo: IT'S A PRESENTATION. IT'S BEING TRANSPARENT AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON NOT TO PUT IT OUT HERE BECAUSE IS IT NOT PUBLIC RECORD? EITHER WAY -- >> IT'S SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORD. >> Mayor Guajardo: I DON'T SEE HOW IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE FOR WHAT IS COMING IN FEBRUARY. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT ON. LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE POSTED IT IN THE AGENDA TO PRESENT. >> Hernandez: MAYOR, I JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT THE POLICE IN A BAD POSITION. IF THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE REPORT, IT MIGHT BE CONTRADICTORY TO THEIR REPORT. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHO? >> I'M CONFIDENT WE HAVE A REPORT THAT COVERED THE CRIMINAL ASPECTS OF THIS CASE. >> Hernandez: LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU IN A BAD SPOT. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU'RE NOT. >> Hernandez: OR HAVE IT UTILIZED FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME. NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING. NOT TRYING TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A REPORT. IT SHOULD JUST BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. >> Mayor Guajardo: THERE'S NO REASON FOR THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I THINK THIS IS THE LEAST OF THE POLITICAL -- THIS REMOVES THE POLITICAL. I MEAN, THE HIRING OF TWO LAW FIRMS. THE THREE-SIGNATURE MEMOS ARE ALL POLITICIZED. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST POLITICAL PRESENTATION FROM A REPUTABLE AND TRANSPARENT ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. I CAN'T SEE, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSSED TRANSPARENCY AND WE THROW IT AROUND LIKE A FOOTBALL BUT YET WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH A REPUTABLE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS THE UTMOST INTEGRITY. AND WE'RE TELLING THEM WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPRESS THAT INFORMATION FOR CONVENIENCE. AND I DON'T THINK, AS THE CAPTAIN -- NOT THE CAPTAIN. THE ASSISTANT CHIEF HAS SAID THAT, WHAT IS IT? IT DOESN'T PUT THEM -- DID I GIVE THEM A PROMOTION? >> I THINK IT WAS ON PUBLIC RECORD SO THE CHIEF IS GOING TO HAVE TO HONOR THAT. DEPUTY CHIEF. >> Barrera: DEPUTY CHIEF. APOLOGIES. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK WE'RE HIDING ANYTHING. I MEAN, ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS JUST WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION, BOTH PRESENTATIONS TO BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AGAIN I THINK WE'RE BEING VERY TRANSPARENT. WE JUST WANT TO HEAR WHEN WE HIRED OUR INDEPENDENT FIRM TO REPRESENT THE COUNCIL AND WE ALSO HAD OUR CITY POLICE, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME TOGETHER AND PRESENT IT AT THE SAME TIME. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN CANTU. >> Cantu: THIS REPORT WAS TO FIGURE OUT IF PHILLIP RAMIREZ DID ANYTHING WRONG. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING WRONG. THERE WERE NO CHARGES FILED. HIS NAME WAS CLEARED AND I STAND WITH THAT. GET IT. WHAT I THINK -- WHAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT IS TO MAKE THEMSELVES CLEARED TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK THERE WAS SOME STUFF BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THAT WAS WRONG WITH THE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I THINK THEY'RE USING THE PD TO TRY TO SAY THAT. BUT PD DID NOT INVESTIGATE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THEY INVESTIGATED ONE PERSON AND THAT WAS PHILLIP RAMIREZ AND HE'S CLEARED. DOESN'T MEAN THERE IS SOME CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE MAYOR OR PAST COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE CLEARED FROM ANY WRONGDOING. I FEEL WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE OTHER ATTORNEY TO PRESENT HIS CASE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE MAYOR, AND WHOEVER ELSE INVOLVED IN THAT DEAL. SO THAT'S MY OPINION AND I DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH TABLING THIS. >> Mayor Guajardo: WOW. >> [OFF MIC] >> Cantu: [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN, WE'RE OUT OF ORDER. EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. STOP GUYS. >> Cantu: [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: SO THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND IT IS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT. WE HAVE A REPORT AND EVERYONE IS SITTING UP HERE THAT'S GOING TO VOTE TO HOLD OFF ON THIS. YOU SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED BECAUSE Y'ALL TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, YOU TALK ABOUT BEING OPEN WITH THE PUBLIC. THIS PRESENTATION IS JUST A PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TOLD. THEY ARE NOT BEING PUT IN ANY POSITION. THIS CONTINUES TO BE POLITICAL. THIS WHOLE ENTIRE THING IS POLITICAL. IT'S BEEN PROVEN AND EVERY TIME IT GETS PROVEN, WE GET A LITTLE FLAG THROWN NO, NO, NO, NO. LET'S GET THIS LAW FIRM. MAYBE THEY CAN TELL US SOMETHING. LET'S DO THIS. AND WE'RE GOING WITH IT ALL. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION. WHY ARE WE SCARED OF A PRESENTATION THAT INVOLVES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FBI, THE TEXAS RANGERS, THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE D.A.'S OFFICE. THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW THE CONCLUSION OF THOSE FIVE AGENCIES. LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL. COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: FIRST OFF, MAYOR, DON'T TELL ANYBODY UP HERE TO BE ASHAMED BECAUSE THEY DON'T SUPPORT SOMETHING. THAT'S WRONG. THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS REPORT GETTING OUT AND ALL THIS TO BE OVER WITH, THEN GO GET DEPOSED, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN PUTTING THAT OFF AND IT'S COSTING THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI MONEY BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GETTING DEPOSED. AND ANOTHER EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY IS NOT GETTING DEPOSED. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE NOT FILED CHARGES AGAINST HER FOR DELETING STUFF ON THE WEB. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. IN A COURT OF LAW YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WAITING BECAUSE I READ YOUR ENTIRE REPORT. THE ENTIRE REPORT. I'VE ALSO LISTENED TO THE DEPOSITIONS. THERE IS SOMETHING HERE TO LOOK AT. YOU NEED TO HEAR BOTH SIDES AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS REPORT THAT EXONERATED ANYBODY. IT, TO ME, DID NOT EXONERATE PHILLIP RAMIREZ. THEY ADMIT THEY CHANGED THE SLIDE. I THINK WE TAKE THE VOTE. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT, HEAR IT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT, DON'T HEAR IT. THAT'S BEING TRANSPARENT. NO ONE IS TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING OR YOU DON'T WANT TO HIDE SOMETHING, GO GET DEPOSED AND WE CAN GET THIS THING FINISHED MORE QUICKLY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: NOTHING'S EVER ENOUGH. NOTHING'S EVER ENOUGH. THAT WAS MY ATTORNEY, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD, ABIDE BY YOUR ATTORNEY'S ADVICE. . IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING DEPOSED AND FINDING OUT MORE. I HAVE BEEN DEPOSED. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR LAWYERS, CAROLYN. I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE EITHER. LET'S TAKE THE VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> City Secretary: WE'RE GOING TO DO A VOICE VOTE. MAYOR, CAN WE DO A VOICE VOTE? SO YOU WANT TO DO "ALL IN FAVOR" OR A ROLL CALL? DO A ROLL CALL? ALL RIGHT. >> Mayor Guajardo: I'M SORRY. PLEASE REPEAT THE MOTION. >> City Secretary: THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE ITEM 31 UNTIL THE SCOTT ET AL. ATTORNEYS AT LAW REPORT IS SUBMITTED. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. [ROLL CALL VOTE] >> City Secretary: THE MOTION CARRIES. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WELL, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU, GENTLEMEN WHO WERE HERE TO DO THIS PRESENTATION. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOST TIME. SO AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO -- THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 33 THROUGH 36 PER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND 551.072. AND WE WILL RETURN. [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] [EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RESUME OUR MEETING AT 6 6:13 P.M. WE DO HAVE SOME ACTION. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER 25 IS ZONING CASE NUMBER ZN8987, CLINT AND CATHERINE TUCKER IN DISTRICT 4. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS THE ORDINANCE REZONING A PROPERTY AT OR NEAR 1730 AND 1738 RAMFIELD ROAD FROM FARM RURAL DISTRICT WITHIN THE ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR PUBLIC -- OR COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> Paxson: THANK YOU. I KNOW THE COMMENTS FROM THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEVEL OF DENSITY ON THAT PROJECT, BUT THEIR REQUEST, THAT'S A FAIRLY LOW DENSE REQUEST, AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HAS SOOTHED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, SO THANK YOU. >> CORRECT. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 25. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF YOU'LL PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. >> City Secretary: MAYOR, CAN WE DO A VOICE VOTE. >> Mayor Guajardo: SURE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. (AYES.) >> Mayor Guajardo: ANY OPPOSED, SAY NO. ITEM NUMBER 26 IS AN ORDINANCE ANNEXING A 109 -- 109.109-ACRE TWRACT OF LAND LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF FM 2424 OR STAPLES STREET, EAST OF COUNTY ROAD 43 OR CHUCK CAZALES BOULEVARD AND WEST OF GILEAD RODEO UPON PETITION OF THE LANDOWNER ZBK, LLC, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, APPROVING THE RELATED SERVICE PLAN, ADDING THE ANNEXED AREA TO CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 5 AND REZONING 53.211 ACRES OF THE ANNEXED AREA FROM THE FR OR FARM RURAL DISTRICT TO RS-22, SINGLE FAMILY 22 DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHING THE FARM RURAL DISTRICT ON THE REMAINING ACREAGE. >> GOOD EVENING, DANIEL McGINN, INTERIM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THIS NEXT ITEM IS AN ANNEXATION AND REZONING. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY'S LOCATED IN THE LONDON AREA JUST SOUTH OF THE STAPLES, AS YOU LEAVE THE CITY. TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE THE KITTY HAWK SUBDIVISION. ACROSS THE STREET IS COUNTRY CREEK, SON GEORGE AND THE PROMENADE, THIS IS JUST WEST OF THE BOTANICAL GARDENS. THE APPLICANT IS ZBK. HERE'S A LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT, THEY'LL HAVE SOME PROPERTY ALONG STAPLES THAT WILL STAY POTENTIALLY MAYBE IN THE FUTURE FOR COMMERCIAL USES, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LARGER LOTS, THE HALF-ACRE LOTS, ARE ALL TO THE KIND OF SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACT. THEY WILL HAVE DETENTION PONDS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE IN SOME OF THESE OTHER LONDON LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENTS. AGAIN, THE SITE IS 109 ACRES. THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT IN PHASES ON THE ZONING. THE FIRST PHASE WILL BE THE RS-RS22 WHICH IS ON THAT FIRST 53 ACRES, AND THAT WILL HAVE 77 LOTS, AND THEN THE PHASE 2 TO THE REAR WILL HAVE 80 LOTS. AGAIN, TWO DETENTION PONDS AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING THAT THESE HOME VALUES WILL BE ABOUT 800K, WHICH IS PROBABLY A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THE NEWER PROJECTS OUT THERE, BUT IN LINE WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN LONDON. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER HERE IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ? >> Hernandez: OKAY. THE MAIN QUESTION I HAVE HERE IS THE DISPOSITION OF COUNTY ROAD 41 OR GILEAD, I THINK -- I GUESS IT'S CALLED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STAPLES. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE GILEAD, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STAPLES, IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, OR MAYBE HALF OF THAT STREET IS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A PAPER STREET. IT'S -- AND SO IS THIS PART OF THIS, OR -- I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS ALREADY -- COUNTY ROAD IS ALREADY IN THE CITY LIMITS? HOW -- IS IT SCHEDULED TO BE A COLLECTOR? WHAT'S THE STATUS OF COUNTY ROAD 41? >> McGinn: 41. THIS -- I THINK WE'VE ANNEXED THAT ROAD ALREADY. WE DID SOME RIGHT OF WAY ANNEXATIONS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT ONE IN THE SYSTEM ALREADY. YOU'RE CORRECT, ON THE NORTH SIDE, I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT IS THE ENTIRE ROAD WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OR NOT. IS THAT -- THE QUESTION ON THE NORTH SIDE? >> Hernandez: NO, NO. THE ENTIRE ROAD. I MEAN, WHAT IS IT? IS IT A C1 COLLECTOR, WHAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN SAY IT IS? >> McGinn: C3. >> Hernandez: SO IT'S GOING TO BE C3. IS THAT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? IS IT GOING TO BE -- IS THE DEVELOPER GOING TO BUILD THIS? WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THE COUNTY ROAD 41 OR GILEAD. >> McGinn: THE TERMINATION OF KIND OF CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE IN PLACE DURING THE PLATTING PROCESS, AND SO THAT'S WORKED OUT IN THAT PHASE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR TO DETERMINE WHAT PORTION OR WHO'S GOING TO BUILD WHAT YET. SO -- DO YOU HAVE THAT? >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMAN. WE ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS ON THE PLATTING PHASE. TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LARGER -- AS YOU KNOW, THE UDC DOESN'T REQUIRE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION IF IT'S ABOVE A C1 COLLECTOR. WHEN WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A MAJOR ROAD SPLITTING BETWEEN TWO DEVELOPMENTS, PLANNING COMMISSION USUALLY ENTERTAINS A HALF STREET DISCUSSION IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FIRE ACCESS AND THEN MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS BASED ON THE FIRE CODE FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS. >> Hernandez: THE WAY YOU HAVE THIS SET UP, COUNTY ROAD 41 PROVIDES THAT SECONDARY ACCESS. >> RIGHT. >> Hernandez: SO SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THAT ROAD. >> EXACTLY. SO DURING THAT PLATTING PROCESS, WE MAKE A DETERMINATION IF A C3'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED. AS YOU KNOW, WE DO MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, BECAUSE IT'S DEAD ENDING INTO A DITCH, SO THERE MAY NOT BE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. SECONDLY, DEPENDING ON THE WIDTH THAT'S REQUIRED, THAT IS WHERE WE ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HALF STREET CONSTRUCTION, TO NOT PUT THE ENTIRE BURDEN ON ONE DEVELOPER OR THE OTHER. >> Hernandez: YEAH, THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE A C1, AND I THINK EVERYTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DITCH IS KING RANCH CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: SO I DOUBT ANYTHING'S GOING TO GO ON THAT SIDE. I WOULDN'T SAY YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A C3 BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE PAVED TO PROVIDE THAT SECOND INTRANSZ, EVEN IF IT'S UP TO JUST WHERE THAT SECOND ENTRANCE IS, UNLESS -- I DON'T SEE THERE'S A REASON -- AND THAT -- >> WE HAVE STARTED THOSE DISCUSSIONS, SO IT'S -- THE DEVELOPER IS FULLY AWARE. WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED DURING THE PLAT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ON THIS. I THINK THE PROJECT'S FINE. I WISH WE COULD GET SEWER OUT THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW -- >> YES, SIR. >> Hernandez: I WISH -- YOU KNOW -- BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. YEAH, JUST -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE PLATS. >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: SO -- BUT WE WILL SEE THE AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN? >> CORRECT. >> Hernandez: OKAY. SO I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> Hernandez: WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> Barrera: SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 26? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. THE MOTION CARRIES. WE'RE PULLING ITEM NUMBER 27, SO WE'LL GO TO ITEM 28 WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO ELIMINATE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE AS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMEMBER SYLVIA CAMPOS, CAROLYN VAUGHN AND ERIC CANTU. WHO'S GOING TO -- >> Campos: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THE CITY TO REVIEW REMOVING THIS DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE, AND I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE CITY WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME IF -- WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE, WHICH WAS STARTED JUST 2018. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO HEAR THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, NICK WINKELMANN, INTERIM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, CORPUS CHRISTI WATER. CURRENTLY THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE, THE CITY HAS COLLECTED APPROXIMATELY $35 MILLION SINCE ITS INCEPTION. THE FEE IS A VOLUNTARY FEE. THOSE WHO OPT IN PAY A SET AMOUNT PER 1,000-GALLONS OF WATER. CURRENTLY, THAT AMOUNT IS AN EXTRA 35 CENTS PER 1,000-GALLONS OF WATER. WHAT THE FEE MEANS TO US TODAY IS APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION IN REVENUE TO BE USED ON DROUGHT RESISTANT WATER PROJECTS. TO END THE FEE, IT'S A FIVE-YEAR NOTICE TO THE -- TO THE EXISTING PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE IN IT. THE -- DURING THAT FIVE YEARS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO COLLECT FROM -- COLLECT THE FEE AND THE CITY ALSO CONTINUES TO SPEND THE MONEY. AT THE END OF THOSE FIVE YEARS, ANY MONEY LEFT IN THE FUND HAS TO BE RETURNED TO THE PARTICIPANTS ON A PRO RATA BASIS. >> Campos: AND DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE AS TO IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE FOR ANY OF OUR CUSTOMERS? SAY WE WERE TO JUST FOLLOW THE REGULAR STAGES OF DROUGHT PLAN, HOW WE HAVE IN STAGE 2, IN STAGE 3. WE HAVE TO HAVE -- WE -- I BELIEVE, HAVE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT. I DON'T HAVE MY -- LET ME SEE IF I HAVE MY PAGE. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT WE WOULD BE COLLECTING IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE EXEMPTION? FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK IN STAGE 2, IT'S IN PAGE 13 OF OUR DROUGHT AND IT WILL HAVE THE FOLLOWING SURCHARGE WILL BE ADDED TO A CUSTOMER'S WATER BILL. AND THEN IT'S GOT $1 PER 1,000 AND SO FORTH. AND THEN IT SAYS FOR NON-EXEMPT LARGE VOLUME ACCOUNTS, A SURCHARGE OF $3 PER 1,000 GALLONS OVER 12,842,000 GALLONS WILL BE ADDED TO THE CUSTOMER'S BILL. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO INFORM THE PU PUPUBLIC THE PROS AND CONS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WOULD ELIMINATE IT. WOULDN'T WE JUST GO BACK AND FOLLOW THESE MEASURES? >> SURE, COUNCILWOMAN. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO MAKE. THE MEASURES THAT YOU JUST OUTLINED, THOSE SURCHARGES, ARE OPTIONAL AND THEY'RE AT THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL. SO CITY COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH THOSE OR NOT. THE ONE THING THAT I CAN SAY -- AND I DO WANT TO SHARE. SO IF WE FOREGO, LET'S JUST SAY $6 MILLION A YEAR IN TERMS OF REVENUE THAT'S USED FOR CAPITAL DROUGHT-PROOF WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS. IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT REVENUE, THE EXISTING RATEPAYER WOULD PAY AN ADDITIONAL 16 CENTS PER 1,000 GALLONS. OR IF YOU LOOK AT THAT OVER A TYPICAL WATER USER, IT'S AN EXTRA 94 CENTS FOR A MONTHLY IMPACT ON THE WATER BILL. TO MAKE UP THAT $6 MILLION. >> Campos: RIGHT. OR WE COULD JUST FOLLOW OUR OPTIONAL MEASURES AND WE WOULD MAKE UP -- MORE THAN MAKE UP FOR THAT LOSS FOR USING THE DROUGHT SURCHARGE EXEMPTION FEE. WOULDN'T THAT MAKE UP THE MONEY IF WE WERE JUST TO FOLLOW WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE DROUGHT PLAN? >> Winkelmann: AGAIN, IT'S COUNCIL APPROVAL BUT ALSO THOSE MEASURES IMPACT -- >> Campos: ALL CUSTOMERS. >> Winkelmann: ALL CUSTOMERS. INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. >> Campos: YES. BUT $1, I MEAN FOR RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS, A SURCHARGE OF $1 PER 1,000 GALLONS OVER 7,000 GALLONS. RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALLOWING THE 7,000 GALLONS PER MONTH? >> Winkelmann: SO THAT IS WHAT'S -- THAT IS WHAT'S IN THIS DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THAT IF COUNCIL APPROVED THE SURCHARGES, THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES WOULD BE CHARGED FOR A WATER USAGE ABOVE 7,000 GALLONS. THAT'S CORRECT. >> Campos: OKAY. ALL THIS WOULD BE BASED ON WHETHER THE COUNCIL WOULD ABIDE BY THESE MEASURES. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> Winkelmann: YEAH. ANY SURCHARGES IN THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN ARE COUNCIL APPROVED. >> Campos: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS ON THE WATER EMERGENCY TIMELINE, LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED TO OUR WATER EMERGENCY TIMELINE, HAD LARGE-VOLUME USERS REDUCED THEIR CONSUMPTION BY 10% LAST YEAR. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO -- >> Winkelmann: I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. >> Campos: BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BECAUSE WE KEEP SAYING WE WOULD BE LOSING MONEY BUT IN ESSENCE, IF WE WERE TO JUST FOLLOW WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THEN WE WOULD, AGAIN, MAKE UP MORE THAN WE HAVE NOW. >> Winkelmann: I THINK THE POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS -- AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART -- IS THIS FEE IS PAID ALL THE TIME. IT'S NOT JUST IN DROUGHT OR TIMES WHEN -- >> Campos: RIGHT. >> Winkelmann: WHEN COUNCIL WOULD ENACT SURCHARGES. IT'S A CONSISTENT FEE. IT'S A CONSISTENT SOURCE OF REVENUE. >> Campos: AND AGAIN, JUST TO POINT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, EVEN IF WE WERE TO END IT NOW, IT WOULD STILL TAKE FIVE YEARS FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY GET OFF. >> Winkelmann: THAT IS CORRECT. >> Campos: FROM ALL THE STAGES. THEY WOULD STILL BE EXEMPT FROM ALL THE STAGES. >> Winkelmann: SO THEY ARE -- THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM ARE EXEMPT FROM SURCHARGE FEES. IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE WATER, IT DOESN'T EXEMPT THEM FROM THAT. >> Campos: RIGHT. WELL, I HAD ATTENDED TWO BRIEFINGS, ONE FROM VALERO AND ONE FROM FLINT HILLS, WHEN WE WERE GOING OVER THE WASTEWATER REUSE. AND I DID -- FLINT HILLS WAS OFFERED A GRAPH, YOU KNOW, SHOWING US THAT THEY HAD CUT BACK ON THEIR WATER USAGE. LIKE I SAID, WELL THE GRAPH IS NICE BUT HOW DO WE PROVE IT? SO THEN IT JUST HAPPENED -- I GUESS SIMULTANEOUSLY AT THE SAME TIME. I SAID, OH, YEAH. I KNOW HOW WE CAN PROVE IT. I'LL CHECK WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT. SURE ENOUGH, I DID CHECK WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THEY HAD NOT CUT BACK ON THEIR WATER USAGE. SO, AGAIN, WE NEED TO FIND -- I FEEL, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR THIS TO REMOVE IT. BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN -- OR I CAN SAY THAT CUSTOMERS WILL REDUCE THEIR WATER USAGE IS PROBABLY THE MORE YOU USE THE MORE YOU PAY. SO I FEEL THAT IT'S TIME FOR US, AS A CITY COUNCIL, TO REVIEW THIS. AND I JUST WANTED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. IF YOU COULD GET BACK WITH US, THAT WOULD REALLY BE APPRECIATED. >> Winkelmann: I GUESS I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GET BACK TO YOU ON. >> Campos: OKAY. LET ME GO AHEAD AND -- OKAY. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW AT WHAT POINT ARE THE EXEMPTION FEES NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CITY? IF WE WERE CHARGING .20 PER 1,000 GALLONS, WOULD SURCHARGES BE BETTER? THAT'S ONE. THE WATER EMERGENCY TIMELINE. HOW MANY MONTHS WOULD WE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO OUR WATER EMERGENCY TIMELINE, HAD LARGE-VOLUME USERS REDUCED THEIR CONSUMPTION BY JUST 10%? AND THAT CAN EASILY BE DONE, RIGHT? YOU JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR PREVIOUS WATER BILLS. THE NEXT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH REVENUE WOULD CCW HAVE COLLECTED LAST YEAR HAD THE EXEMPTION FEE NOT BEEN IN PLACE AND WE WOULD HAVE JUST GONE BY WHAT THE DROUGHT -- THE OPTIONAL MEASURES -- WE WOULD HAVE JUST FOLLOWED THE OPTIONAL MEASURES ON PAGE 13, FOR ONE EXAMPLE, DURING STAGE 2. I GUESS THAT'S ALL FOR NOW. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT COUNCILWOMAN. THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO MAKE IS THE SURCHARGE MEASURES THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THAT'S A CITY POLICY DECISION, IT'S NOT AN OPERATIONAL DECISION. >> Campos: AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THIS COUNCIL. BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO ELIMINATE THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECT OUR MONEY APPROPRIATELY FROM ALL THE WATER CUSTOMERS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR. >> Winkelmann: THE INTENT -- AND I WASN'T HERE, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THIS WAS ENACTED. BUT THE INTENT -- AND I THINK THIS HAS THE WRONG NAME. DEFINITELY IT HAS THE WRONG NAME. BUT THE INTENT WAS FOR THOSE LARGE USERS TO BE ABLE TO -- IT WAS A MECHANISM FOR THEM TO CONTRIBUTE MONEY TO OUR WATER SUPPLY PROJECTS. >> Campos: BUT THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DONE IF WE HAD JUST FOLLOWED WHAT WE HAVE WRITTEN DOWN. IF WE JUST CHARGED THEM WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, STATED, WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD PROGRAM, THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE. WE WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION SURCHARGE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE. I MEAN, I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE NUMBERS. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A WILLINGNESS BY COUNCIL TO ENACT THE SURCHARGES TO ALL THE CUSTOMERS. ALL THE CLASSES. >> Campos: OKAY. I KNOW WHEN WE STARTED WITH OUR DROUGHT STAGES, WE WERE CHARGING PEOPLE WITH THEIR WATER, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER THEY WERE USING IT ON WRONG DAYS OR IF THEY WERE USING IT AFTER THE HOURS. WE STILL -- I MEAN, WE WERE, UNTIL WE CHANGED THE AMOUNTS. >> Winkelmann: ABSOLUTELY WE ISSUED CITATIONS. THE MONEY FROM THE CITATIONS DOES NOT COME BACK TO CORPUS CHRISTI WATER, THOUGH. IT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND. >> Campos: WHICH IS EVEN BETTER. OKAY. I'LL LET THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN SCOTT. >> Scott: YEAH. I AGREE ON THE WRONG NAME. I THINK THAT'S REALLY CAUSED A LOT OF -- >> Winkelmann: YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> Scott: CONFUSION IN OUR ELECTORATE. MY SENSE IS WE DON'T WANT TO BE HERE. WE DON'T WANT TO BE AT 20%. WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THIS STAGE. WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS STAGE AND WHAT I THINK WE WANT IN ALL THAT IS THE ONGOING CONTRIBUTION FROM OUR LARGE-WATER USERS TO PAY THAT 35 CENTS PER 1,000 GALLONS. I THINK THAT GETS LOST IN ALL THIS IS THAT AGREEMENT IS IN GOOD TIMES AND BAD. NOW, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM CURTAILMENT RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE PERCEPTION, I THINK, THAT THE SURCHARGE EXEMPTS INDUSTRY FROM CURTAILMENT AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. >> Winkelmann: YOU'RE CORRECT IN WHAT YOU JUST SAID. THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM ACTUAL CURTAILMENT. >> Scott: WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO SURCHARGE YOU BUT NOT THE OTHER CLASSES. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO BE -- IT'S ALL OR NOTHING IN THE SURCHARGES RIGHT? >> Winkelmann: I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT -- AND I WILL LET MILES COMMENT, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, THE PUC COMPLAINTS TOO. WE NEED TO TREAT EQUAL ACROSS THE BOARD ON THAT. >> Risley: ACTUALLY, WE POSED THIS QUESTION BEFORE TO OUR LAW FIRM. SURCHARGES ARE PROBABLY SUBJECT TO ALL RIGHTS OF APPEAL BY EXTRATERRITORIAL RATEPAYERS THE SAME AS RATE INCREASE. SURCHARGES ARE NOT AN UNLIMITED RIGHT TO INCREASE FEES. THE STANDARD FEE PROCESS PROCEDURE PROBABLY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE DROUGHT SURCHARGE IN TERMS OF HAVING A RIGHT TO INCREASE THOSE CHARGES AND NOT BE SUBJECT -- OR BE SUBJECT TO AN APPEAL. >> Scott: UNLESS IT WAS VOLUNTARY. >> Risley: A VOLUNTARY SURCHARGE IS NOT APPEALABLE TO THE PUC. WE COULD ASK EVERYBODY TO PAY A SURCHARGE AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT. I LIKE IT. ROLAND AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND I SAID I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD PAY MORE. . I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL WATCHING NOW. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TURN TO MY RATEPAYERS AND RAISE THEIR RATES AND GO OH, BY THE WAY, WE CANCELED THIS OPTIONAL INCOME SO WE'RE GOING TO RAISE YOUR RATE MORE. IT'S NOT A LOT, AND I GET THAT. BUT AS ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS EARLIER WAS SAYING IT'S ALL GOING TO ADD UP EVENTUALLY. AND SO I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. THE LAST THING I'LL SAY AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON. THEY DO HAVE TO COMPLY -- SO NOBODY CAN WATER THEIR LANDSCAPING RIGHT? SO THEY CAN'T WATER THEIR LANDSCAPING. IF THEY HAVE A WATER FEATURE, IT'S PROBABLY TURNED OFF. INDUSTRY IS COMPLYING WITH ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE NOW. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE PAYING 35 CENTS PER 1,000 GALLONS. WELL -- >> Winkelmann: IT'S ACTUALLY 31. >> Scott: I THOUGHT IT WAS 31 AND THEN I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG. >> Winkelmann: I MISSPOKE. >> Scott: IN ADDITION, THEY ARE PAYING THIS SURCHARGE AND I THINK THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THE OVERALL RATEPAYER AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHENEVER WE GET AND HAVE TO CURTAIL, THEY ARE NOT EXEMPT FROM CURTAILMENTS. IN THAT CONVERSATION, I'M DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE TO OUR PARTNERS LIKE VALERO AND FLINT HILLS WHO HAVE COME TO THE CITY AND WORKED OUT THESE ARGUMENTS TO USE EFFLUENT AND SPEND A BUNCH OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. TO ME, THAT'S INDICATIVE OF THIS PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH INDUSTRY. MY TWO CENTS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS IS COMING FROM, WHICH SPARKED KIND OF A THOUGHT. BECAUSE I'VE MET WITH INDUSTRY RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THINGS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CONSUMPTION, IT'S HARD -- WHEN YOU'RE A RESIDENTIAL USER, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A TREND WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL USERS. I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENTEN THINGS THAT AFFECT US WHICH COULD MAKE IT GO UP AND DOWN. YOU HAVE A KID THAT MAYBE GOES OFF TO COLLEGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OR YOU HAVE A NEWBORN. I GUESS THAT COULD AFFECT IT FOR MORE CONSUMPTION, I GUESS. OR TWINS OR WHATEVER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR INDUSTRIAL USERS, I THINK ALMOST YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT A TREND A MINIMUM OF LIKE THREE YEARS, I WOULD THINK. TO REALLY KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE AT. BECAUSE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND -- OR THE MONTH, YEARLY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE CONSUMPTION THAN OTHERS. WHETHER THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A TURNAROUND TIME AND MAYBE IT'S REDUCED DURING THAT TIME OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW -- BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS ALSO. I'VE HEARD THAT. I'VE HEARD FROM PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR INDUSTRIAL USERS THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN MEASURES IN PLACE AND THEY'VE REDUCED THEIR CONSUMPTION. AND IF THEY HAVE DONE THAT, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. ON THEIR OWN, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO HELP OUT. HOW HARD, HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE FOR YOU TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR INDUSTRIAL USERS AND LOOK AT A TREND OF MAYBE THE LAST THREE YEARS TO SEE IS IT TRENDING DOWN? >> Winkelmann: SO I'VE GOT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, JUST TRYING TO BE AS PREPARED AS POSSIBLE. SO IN THE CASE OF FLINT HILLS -- AND I LIKE HOW YOU SAID IT, COUNCILMAN. IN A BIG OPERATION LIKE THAT, TRENDS DON'T OCCUR EVERY MONTH. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT LONG-TERM TRENDS. AND THIS IS JUST THE NUMBERS, BILLED USAGE. FLINT HILLS RESOURCES IN FISCAL YEAR 2023 WAS 1.99. IT'S ACTUALLY -- YEAH, 1.99. IT WOULD BE BILLION GALLONS. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN IN FISCAL YEAR '25, IT'S 1.8. SO FROM '23 TO '25 THEY DID DECREASE. FISCAL YEAR '24 WAS 1.73. SO FISCAL YEAR '23 WAS HIGHER. FISCAL YEAR '24 WAS LOWER. FISCAL YEAR '25 INCREASED A LITTLE BIT BUT IT WAS STILL LOWER THAN FISCAL YEAR '23. IF YOU DID SOME AVERAGE MATH, I WOULD SAY AVERAGE OVER THOSE THREE YEARS THEY'RE DOWN. I DIDN'T DO THAT MATH. IT'S JUST THE TABLE I WAS E-MAILED. >> Roy: WHICH MAKES ME WONDER. DO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EVEN FURTHER? DO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT A FIVE-YEAR TREND? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S APPROPRIATE. >> Winkelmann: MAY BE. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION HERE. >> Roy: THERE'S A LOT. >> Winkelmann: THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND I DON'T SPEAK FOR THEM BUT THERE'S TURN DOWNS AND MAINTENANCE. >> Roy: A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY AND WHAT THEIR PRODUCT IS. I DO THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT, IF WE CAN. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE TOMORROW. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE BUT I SURE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND MAYBE LOOK AT IT FIVE YEARS EVEN. >> Winkelmann: AFTER WHAT I JUST READ, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH. >> Roy: THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO COUNCIL BECAUSE IT JUST SHOWS US WHERE WE'RE AT. BECAUSE COLLECTIVELY, THEORETICALLY IF YOU'VE GOT ONE THAT REDUCES IT BY A BILLION GALLONS A YEAR AND YOU'VE GOT -- AND ALL OF THEM DID, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY TELL? WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? I THINK IT GIVES US A BETTER INCLINATION. BUT IT COULD BE THE OPPOSITE. IT COULD BE MAYBE ONLY ONE AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TRENDED UP. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FIVE YEAR. THANK YOU. >> Winkelmann: ABSOLUTELY. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: OKAY. I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DROUGHT EXEMPTION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. I MEAN, THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY, IF YOU CAN DO A SURCHARGE, IT APPLIES TO EVERYBODY. AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD CHANGE IF YOU TOOK AWAY THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE FROM THEIR USAGE. RIGHT? >> Winkelmann: TAKING AWAY -- >> Hernandez: LIKE IF YOU TOOK AWAY THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE, THEIR USAGE DOESN'T CHANGE. IT JUST MEANS THEY DON'T PAY THE FEE. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. >> Hernandez: THERE'S NOTHING IN THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO REDUCE CONSUMPTION BASED ON HOW THEY'RE USING IT FOR THEIR PROCESSES. I'M SURE THEY DON'T HAVE GREAT LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY CAN'T WATER THEIR GRASS ANY MORE THAN WE CAN. SO I DON'T THINK IT AFFECTS -- IT WOULD AFFECT ANYTHING WITHOUT CHANGING THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN US AND INDUSTRY IS THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A PROGRESSIVE TYPE SCALE. THE MORE YOU USE, THE MORE YOU PAY. AS TO WHERE INDUSTRY AND COMMERCIAL HAVE KIND OF A CONSISTENT RATE. DOES THAT APPLY COMM COMMERCIALLY AS WELL OR DO THEY HAVE A PROGRESSIVE RATE AS WELL? >> Winkelmann: COMMERCIAL DOES HAVE THE SAME PROGRESSIVE RATE? THEY DON'T. IT'S FLAT. >> Hernandez: THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISPARITY IN TERMS OF USAGE. BUT HONESTLY, RESIDENTS USE 13% OF THE TOTAL WATER? YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE PROGRESSIVE RATE REALLY DOES ANYTHING. >> Winkelmann: IN TERMS OF RATE MODELING -- YOU KNOW THIS, COUNCILMAN. BUT THE CONSISTENT REVENUE HELPS YOU WITH YOUR RATE MODELING AND RATE BUILDING SO THAT THE CONSISTENT CONTRIBUTION -- >> Hernandez: I WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE WATER AND BE ABLE TO SELL IT TO MAKE MORE REVENUE THAN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, NICKEL AND DIME PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, CONSERVATION. I MEAN, I GET IT. WE HAVE A TOTAL REDUCTION OF 5% OVERALL FROM YEAR TO YEAR? I THOUGHT I SAW THAT IN THE PRESENTATION EARLIER. >> Winkelmann: A TOTAL WHAT? >> Hernandez: 5% REDUCTION IN ALL WATER USAGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR. >> Zanoni: JASON HALE HAD A CHART. >> Winkelmann: OH, JASON HALE WAS SAYING -- AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. JASON HALE WAS SAYING AT STAGE 3 OUR GOAL WAS TO REDUCE IT BY 30%. IT'S ACTUALLY 15%. IS THE GOAL. IS 15%. AND THEN NUMBERS -- AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW. THE NUMBERS SHOWN THAT WHEN STAGE WAS ENACTED, WE REDUCED IT BY ABOUT 5%, PLUS OR MINUS. THAT'S RIGHT. >> Hernandez: I KNOW WE'D LIKE TO GET IT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONSERVE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS MESS. WE HAVE TO FIND THE ADDITIONAL SOURCES IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK PENALIZING PEOPLE WITH SURCHARGES IS THE BEST ROUTE TO DO ANYTHING. BECAUSE THEN THAT JUST REDUCES -- THAT'S A WAY TO MAKE UP FOR REVENUE THAT WE LOSE THROUGH CONSERVATION. I KNOW THERE'S GOT TO BE A GOOD BALANCE THERE SOMEWHERE. THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOU AS A WATER PROFESSIONAL TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT FOR US. BUT HONESTLY, UNTIL WE HAVE SOME MECHANISM TO SAVE WATER -- AND WE'RE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT SOME CONSERVATION THINGS IN PLACE FOR SAN ANTONIO, THAT'S PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT FOR US HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR INDUSTRY IS, TO MY THOUGHTS, ARE A NATIONAL ASSET FOR US AS A COMMUNITY. I MEAN, WE PROVIDE FUEL FOR THE NATION AND THE WORLD. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPLY WHAT THEY NEED AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE LIMITATIONS BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN WE NEED TO FIND MORE WATER, MORE CONSISTENTLY OVER TIME AT THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE. CONSERVATION IS GREAT BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSERVE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS SITUATION. THANKS. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU. OKAY. WE JUST FORMED THE CONSERVATION COMMITTEE BOARD. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING LAST WEEK. >> Campos: YES. AND I TRIED TO HEAR MOST OF THE COMMENTS. WHAT I GATHERED FROM THAT MEETING WAS THAT THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN THAN THE DROUGHT CONSERVATION PLAN. WOULD I BE WRONG ABOUT THAT? >> Winkelmann: COUNCILWOMAN, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. WHAT I DID WAS REMIND THEM THE COMMITTEE, THEY WERE ASSIGNED TO THE WATER CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THAT IS THE TASK IN FRONT OF THEM. SINCE THEN, WE CONTINUE TO GET A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS ON THAT. >> Campos: WELL, AND COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ IS CORRECT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET OURSELVES OUT OF THIS SITUATION WITH THE CONSERVATION. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD AND SEE IF WE CAN ADAPT OR IF WE CAN AMEND THEIR GOALS. I KNOW THAT -- NO? OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT OUR CITY MANAGER AND HE'S ALREADY NODDING NO. >> Zanoni: YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN, IT'S ALREADY A BIG TASK JUST TO DO THE CONSERVATION PLAN. I WOULD HATE TO DILUTE THEIR CHARGE. >> Campos: YEAH. I DISAGREE. I DISAGREE BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THERE ARE VERY, VERY CONCERNED WITH THE INEQUALITIES OF OUR INDUSTRY CUSTOMERS AND OUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. SO I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A LOT TO SAY AND I THINK WE COULD LEARN A LOT FROM THEIR INPUT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS BOARD TO BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSIDERED TO REVIEW THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. BECAUSE THE CONSERVATION PLAN IS SOMETHING -- WELL, IT'S OVERDUE. BUT WE'LL BE OKAY, RIGHT? THE CITY, WE CAN STILL FOLLOW THE CURRENT CONSERVATION PLAN AND NOT UPDATE IT. >> Winkelmann: WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CURRENT CONSERVATION PLAN AND THE GOAL IS TO BRING THAT REVISED DOCUMENT TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL IN APRIL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING. AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT BOARD TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THAT. I THINK IF YOU CHANGE THE TASKS ASSIGNED TO THE BOARD, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BAIT AND SWITCH. THEY WERE ASSIGNED TO THE BOARD FOR THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. AND I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK FOR NEW NOMINEES. >> Campos: WELL, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED TO THAT BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOME MISCONCEPTION. BECAUSE FROM WHAT I COULD TELL FROM THE BOARD, FROM THE COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 80% THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE DOING THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. >> Winkelmann: I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT. NOT 80%. >> Zanoni: EXCUSE ME, MAYOR. WE DON'T WANT TO -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE AGENDA. IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? THIS ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, THE COMMITTEE TO DO THE CONSERVATION. >> Mayor Guajardo: NO, NOT THE COMMITTEE. >> Campos: TO REMOVE. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST IS IF WE COULD HAVE THEIR INPUT MAYBE TO GIVE US A MORE, YOU KNOW, JUST INFORMATIVE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION HERE AND DETERMINE WHETHER IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND BE EQUITABLE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN, THIS ISN'T THE PLACE FOR THAT. TODAY, THIS IS AN ACTION TO ELIMINATE DROUGHT EXEMPTION, NOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A COMMITTEE THAT'S ALREADY FORMED AND ALREADY MET AND ALREADY ESTABLISHED IS SUPPOSED TO DO OR CHANGE. I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT YOU CAN SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND HAVE. AND THEN -- >> Zanoni: THE FULL COUNCIL. YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOUR INTENTIONS COUNCILWOMAN. >> Campos: THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION. MY SUGGESTION WAS FOR US TO HAVE A CONSERVATION BOARD, WHICH WE DID. AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT LISTENING TO WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. >> Zanoni: I WOULD AGREE. >> Campos: SO BACK TO THE EXEMPTION. I STILL WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, LIKE I JUST ASKED YOU. AGAIN, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THE OTHER IS CAN YOU JUST LET THE PUBLIC KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT FROM THE $31 MILLION I THINK THAT WAS COLLECTED SINCE 2018? >> Winkelmann: THE QUESTION WAS -- >> Campos: HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT ON THAT FUND? >> Winkelmann: SURE. AS OF -- SO AT THE END OF LAST FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS $21 MILLION. BUT WE DO HAVE A $12.6 MILLION SWIFT DEBT PAYMENT THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. >> Campos: THAT WOULD GIVE US A BALANCE OF HOW MUCH LEFT? >> Winkelmann: YOU'RE LOOKING AT 8. >> Campos: $8 MILLION LEFT FROM THE 31? >> Winkelmann: OH, YEAH. PLUS THE $6 MILLION WE GENERATE THIS YEAR. I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO 14 TO $15 MILLION. YEAH. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THE $6 MILLION IS ONGOING EVERY YEAR. THANK YOU, CAMILLE. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE AGENDA ITEM WE'RE ON IS DISCUSSION ON ELIMINATING DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE. AND I BELIEVE THE AUTHOR OF THIS INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ITEM GAVE SOME INSIGHTS FOR THAT. FOR ME, READING THIS, NOT BEING A PART OF THAT AGENDA ITEM, I AM THINKING THROUGH THESE COURSES. OUR RATES, OUR WATER CONSERVATION, OUR WATER OUTPUT, OUR USE BY VOLUME BY DIFFERENT CLASSES OF RATEPAYERS, ALL OF THOSE ARE CONNECTED TO ME WHEN I CONSIDER THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEE. THEY'RE ALL INTERTWINED. SO TWO THINGS. FIRST, I TRIED TO MAKE A COMMENT DURING ITEM 1 THIS MORNING BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE KIND OF RUSHED ON VERY QUICKLY TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AND SO I GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. I WANTED TO BRING SOME CONCERNS UP I HAD THERE UNDER THE CITY MANAGER'S COMMENT. BUT SINCE IT'S KIND OF CONNECTED TO THIS, I'M AIR IT HERE. SECOND, I'VE NOTICED THAT IN OUR MEETINGS SINCE THE NEW YEAR, WE'VE HAD THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN CONSISTENT WITH PRESENTING OUR WATER UPDATES IN COUNCIL. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING OVERTIME AND I KNOW THAT OUR RECENT WEATHER EVENT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF ATTENTION. WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THAT LAST YEAR, I WAS SOMEONE WHO REALLY, REALLY ADVOCATED FOR THAT. AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF THEY WOULD STAY ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A HI, NICK. NO UPDATES. YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR INBOX. THANKS. >> Zanoni: YEAH. WE'LL DO THAT, COUNCILWOMAN. NICK AND I HAD THE SAME OBSERVATION. WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO THOSE WEEKLY BRIEFINGS. THEY'RE COMING BACK AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >> Paxson: THANK YOU. IT BRINGS IT CHALLENGING TO BRING US CONCERNING ISSUES HERE IN THE RIGHT PROPER CHANNELS. SO UNDER DISCUSSION OF DROUGHT EXEMPTION FEES AND THEIR VALIDITY, I THINK THE FORMAT WE HAVE FOR THE CONSERVATION GROUP TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE CONSERVE WATER, WHICH DOES KIND OF RELATE TO OUR DCP. LEADING THE CHARGE FROM COUNCILWOMAN CAMPOS LEADING A COMMITTEE BUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DCP, WE WERE INUNDATED WITH REQUESTS FOR INPUT. WE SAID WE NEED TO GET WAY AHEAD FOR THE CONSERVATION ITEM. I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE FEEDBACK I GOT ON THAT COMMITTEE FROM THE MEMBERS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME EFFORTS THAT RELATE TO THE DROUGHT EXEMPTION EFFORTS, WHICH IS HOW DO WE TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT OUR VARIETY OF RATEPAYERS. SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE LARGER THAN OTHERS. AND WHAT AREAS CAN WE CONSERVE. WHAT CAN WE SAY, AS A CITY, THIS IS OUR STANDARD. THIS IS HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. KIND OF LIKE THE CONDENSER AT THE BANK CENTER. TO ME, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IN MAKING SELECTIONS FOR THAT COMMITTEE WAS INDIVIDUALS WHO COULD HAVE THOSE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS. THAT WASN'T THE FEEDBACK I GOT AT ALL AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION. WE CAN TAKE THAT OFFLINE IF WE NEED TO, THAT'S FINE WITH ME, BUT I THINK THAT THAT COMMITTEE SHOULD BE GEARED IN THAT DIRECTION. THAT WAS, I THINK, A LOT OF PEOPLE'S UNDERSTANDING OF IT. >> Winkelmann: YEAH. THE CHARGE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO UPDATE THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL IN APRIL. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT. SO THEY'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE EXISTING PLAN, THE UPDATED PLAN, AND THEY'RE PROVIDING MODIFICATIONS TO THAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> Barrera: I GUESS MY COMMENTS ARE -- FIRST OFF, I APPROVE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S GREAT INTENT. THE IDEA IS NEVER TO GO INTO CURTAILMENT. IF WE HAD A PLAN MUCH BETTER WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION. I THINK THE IDEA WAS FOR THEM TO FINANCE THE MAJORITY OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE -- I MEAN, THE INDUSTRIAL USERS -- THANKS TO JASON HALE -- USE ABOUT -- BUT THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE MUNICIPALITIES. OUR LARGE INDUSTRIAL USERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE GRAPH THAT HE SENT ME, USED 30.7% LAST YEAR. THAT'S WHERE THAT 6 MILLION DOLLARS IS COMING FROM. I SUPPORT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND I SUPPORT THE INCREASE. 35 CENTS? >> Winkelmann: 31. I MISSPOKE EARLIER. >> Barrera: THERE'S ANOTHER 5 CENTS THAT THEY ALL PAY, THAT MUNICIPALITIES PAY IN ADDITION. >> Winkelmann: EVERYBODY PAYS THE 5 CENTS. >> [OFF MIC] >> Barrera: YEAH. BUT SO EVERYBODY STILL PAYS THAT. I JUST WANT TO ASK: IF WE HAVE AN ITEM LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER AN E-MAIL, PUT ALL YOUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. PUT YOUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER. PUT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT. GIVE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER, GIVE IT TO CITY STAFF. IF YOU WANT TO SHARE IT WITH SOME OF US SO WE CAN SUPPORT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMPONENTS, YOU KNOW, JASON HALE IS A GREAT RESOURCE, I LIKE THE DIG HE GAVE ME IN HIS E-MAIL HE SENT ME YESTERDAY MORNING. BUT THAT JUST MEANS THAT WE -- THERE'S A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FIND FOR THE BETTER OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IF WE GET THAT STUFF OUT -- WE DON'T NEED A COMMITTEE. WE DON'T NEED EXTRA STAFF TIME OR DELAY TIME HERE. IT'S 7:00 AT NIGHT AND I'M NOT GOING TO USE MY FULL MINUTES. ANYWAY, I WOULD PLEASE ASK. WHEN WE DO THESE THREE-SIGNATURE MEMOS, PERHAPS WE CAN ASK THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, HAVE YOU DONE YOUR HOMEWORK? HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IS IT GOING TO TAKE? SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE AS PRODUCTIVE AND EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WE'RE REPRESENTING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN VAUGHN. >> Vaughn: I SIGNED THE MEMO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE TO GET UP TO DATE. THAT'S WHY I SIGNED IT. I DO SUPPORT -- YEAH. I DO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT AS WELL. SOMEONE JUST ASKED ME WHY CAN'T OTHER USERS GET IN ON IT AND NOT JUST INDUSTRY? IT'S NOT MY QUESTION. SOMEONE JUST ASKED ME TO ASK THAT QUESTION, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. >> [OFF MIC] >> Vaughn: WHY CAN'T THEY GET IN ON IT AS WELL? >> [OFF MIC],. >> Vaughn: WHY CAN'T ALL USERS PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM? IT ISN'T FAIR IF ONLY LARGE USERS CAN. SOMEONE WANTS TO KNOW THAT. IT'S A VALID QUESTION. >> Zanoni: WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT. >> [OFF MIC] >> Vaughn: WELL, THANK YOU, ROLAND, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WILL SAY, MAYOR, THAT SOMETIMES WE GET OFF ON HERE -- AND I THINK WE'VE ALL GOT TO BE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. AND IF THE AGENDA ITEM IS ON THIS, WE CAN'T GO ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND WE'RE GETTING WORSE AT THAT AND WE'VE GOT TO STOP IT. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE SHOULD ALL PATROL OURSELVES. ANYWAY, WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO DAIS 101 BUT THERE'S SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS. MEMOS TOO, BECAUSE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THEM. IF THEY WERE A LITTLE MORE ORGANIZED, SUBMITTED WITH MORE TIME. I THINK REBECCA, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT GETS THEM. ANYHOW, MOVING ON. >> Winkelmann: COUNCILWOMAN, IT WAS SET UP FOR LARGE USERS BUT, AGAIN, IT'S 31 CENTS PER THOUSAND GALLONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. IT'S 7:01. ITEM NO. 29 IS A MOTION TO DISCUSS AND ACT ON APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE PADRE/MUSTANG ISLAND MOBILITY PLAN AS AN ELEMENT OF CORPUS CHRISTI'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLAN CC, AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS KAYLYNN PAXSON, ERIC CANTU, AND GIL HERNANDEZ. >> Barrera: I MOVE TO APPROVE 29 AND 30. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS SOME OF THIS THOUGH, PETER? I JUST ASKED HIM A QUESTION. >> Zanoni: WHAT WAS THAT, MAYOR? I'M SORRY. I WAS TALKING TO MILES. >> Mayor Guajardo: IN PASSING THIS, DOES STAFF NEED TO ADVICE US OF ANYTHING? >> Zanoni: ERNIE JUST NEEDS TO GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE ON MPO OR TxDOT. YEAH. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: I WAS ASKING A QUESTION AND HE JUST RESPONDED. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: YES, YES. YES. I JUST ASKED A QUESTION. HE RESPONDED AND YOUR LIGHT'S ON. YOU'RE UP NEXT. GO AHEAD, COUNCILWOMAN. >> Paxson: THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAD ORIGINALLY PUT THESE IN AS ONE ITEM SO WE COULD LOOK AT THEM TOGETHER. SO IF WE CAN CONSIDER THESE AS ONE ITEM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. TO ME, THEY'RE CONSOLIDATED. SO I KNOW THAT PETER, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MOBILITY PLAN. I KNOW IT'S COME TO THIS COUNCIL A FEW TIMES. IT'S COME TO ISAC A FEW TIMES. IT'S HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING. TO ME, FOR THE BETTER PART OF THIS DOCUMENT, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY MUCH READY FOR APPROVAL. MY CONCERN AND THE REASON WHY IT'S OF HIGH IMPORTANCE TO PASS THIS EVENING -- THANK YOU, ROLAND. HE LEFT SO I COULD THANK HIM. LORD. THE HIGH IMPORTANCE IS THE TIMELINE, WORKING WITH THE MPO ON THAT PROJECT. I COMMEND OUR STAFF HERE FOR HELPING WITH THAT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUT OF THE GATE. I TRY TO AVOID THREE SIGNATURES BUT WE'RE ON SUCH A TIGHT TIMELINE FOR THAT PROJECT. >> Zanoni: ERNIE HAS WORKED WITH THE MPO AND HE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM YESTERDAY TO TELL THEM THAT WE WANT TO USE THE MONIES THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR TEN-YEAR PLAN, I THINK WHAT IT IS, FOR THE PROJECT. AND WHAT THEY WANTED WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON ITEM 30, A RESOLUTION OR LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL. >> Paxson: PERFECT. >> Zanoni: THE MOBILITY PLAN IS BY AND LARGE COMPLETE. AS YOU SAID, THERE'S BEEN REVISIONS FROM THE ISAC. COUNCIL HAS SEEN IT. WE DON'T HAVE IT ATTACHED TODAY TO THE AGENDA BUT DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON IT? >> I WOULD COMMENT WE WERE PLANNING TO TAKE IT TO FEBRUARY 10. OF COURSE, WE DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED TODAY BUT IT'S A TWO-READING ORDINANCE ANYWAY. MILES, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF WE COULD JUST DO THE SECOND READING IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE ACTION ON THE PLAN TODAY. COULD WE JUST HAVE THE ORDINANCE ATTACHED AND DO THE SECOND READING AT THE FEBRUARY 10 MEETING? >> Paxson: IS IT TWO READINGS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> TO APPROVE THE PLAN? TYPICALLY WE TAKE TWO READINGS WHENEVER WE APPROVE A MASTER PLAN. >> Paxson: I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN WE VISITED IT LAST, AS A PUBLIC HEARING, IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE FIRST. >> Zanoni: I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY VOTE ON THAT PUBLIC HEARING. >> YEAH. THAT WAS A YEAR AGO I THINK AT THIS POINT. >> Mayor Guajardo: GO AHEAD. >> Paxson: IF IT HAPPENED TO BE TWO READINGS, WHAT WE COULD DO IS REVIEW IT AND PASS TONIGHT, WAITING FOR THE SECOND, WHICH PUTS IT IN -- >> I DON'T THINK THE PLAN IS NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE 22. THE PLAN COVERS THE ENTIRE ISLAND SO THE PARK ROAD 22 IS JUST ONE OF 50 ROADS THAT IS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF. I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH TAKING A VOTE ON SUPPORT OF A PROJECT AS A SEPARATE ACTION. AND THEN THE PLAN -- I THINK YOU CAN TAKE ACTION. I THINK WE WOULD JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK WITH THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE ATTACHED SO EVERYONE COULD SEE THE PLAN AND THE AGENDA. >> Paxson: MY UNDERSTANDING WITH CORRESPONDENCE FROM MR. McDONALD IS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE MOBILITY PLAN PASSED. WHILE THE RESOLUTION IS CERTAINLY A BIG STEP TOWARDS THAT, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THAT. >> Zanoni: YEAH. YOU COULD DO IT IN ONE READING -- YOU COULD DO A ONE-READING PASSAGE TONIGHT IS AN OPTION. >> Risley: YOU GOT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO BE DOING THIS. >> Mayor Guajardo: WHAT'S THAT? >> Risley: IT NEEDS AN ORDINANCE. IT'S NOT JUST A MOTION. >> Barrera: SORRY. >> Paxson: AND I THANKED YOU WHEN YOU STEPPED IN THE BACK. >> Mayor Guajardo: SHE DID. SO WE'RE NOT LOSING OUR PLACE IN LINE, BECAUSE WE HAD SPOKEN WITH TxDOT. SO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT HAPPENING. THAT WAS CONFIRMED, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MEETING SET UP. THESE MEETINGS WERE BEING COORDINATED WITH STAFF AND MPO AND TxDOT. BUT THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN IS GOING FROM THE FOUR YEAR TO THE FIVE TO TEN OR WHATEVER IT IS. BUT THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S BEEN CONFIRMED RIGHT? PAULA SAID WE'RE NOT LOSING THAT PLACE IN LINE. >> [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: PETER, YOU HAD SAID THAT THIS WAS COMING IN FEBRUARY. IT WAS COMPLETE WITH EVERYTHING NEEDED. >> Zanoni: YEAH. THAT WAS THE PLAN WAS TO BRING IT TO THAT FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 7, I GUESS. BUT THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE TO CHECK WITH MILES HERE. BUT YOU CAN DO A FIRST-READING APPROVAL TONIGHT. >> Mayor Guajardo: BUT THERE'S NO ORDINANCE. >> Risley: PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS ON COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS TO BE WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE -- IT HAS TO BE IN THE FORM THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT HERE IN THAT FORM. I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO IT ON FEBRUARY 11. >> Mayor Guajardo: RIGHT. IS IT TOO LATE? IT'S NOT, ERNIE, ACCORDING TO TxDOT? >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TIME ISSUE HERE. IF SOMETHING WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TYPE OF TIME CONSTRAINT. ROB'S HERE. >> Mayor Guajardo: ROB'S HERE. I THOUGHT YOU HAD SAID TO ME THAT THERE WAS. >> Zanoni: WHAT'S THAT? AND ERNIE MET WITH ROB YESTERDAY, DIDN'T YOU? >> Mayor Guajardo: BEING ON THE MPO BOARD, ROB HAD SAID WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH TxDOT AND THE CITY. AND I THINK THERE WAS A TIME, YOU KNOW, IT WAS OF URGENCY, I GUESS, TO A DEGREE. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. ROB McDONALD, DIRECTOR OF THE CORPUS CHRISTI MPO. SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT, NOT THE PLAN. I'LL LET YOU WORK ON THE PLAN. SO THE PROJECT IS IN OUR CURRENT FOUR-YEAR PLAN. THAT'S '25 THROUGH '28. IN FIVE MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO DO THE NEXT FOUR-YEAR PLAN. SO IF THE TIMING OF PARK ROAD 22, IN THE CURRENT PLAN, SLIPS A YEAR OR TWO, IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER BECAUSE IT MAY GO FROM FISCAL YEAR '28 TO '29 OR '30. THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS. THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, THE PLANNING, THE DESIGN WITH TxDOT, CITY STAFF TO DECIDE WHAT THAT IS, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN SIX MONTHS. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER. MAYOR, YOU WERE RIGHT WHEN YOU SAID IT'S NOT LOSING ITS PLACE IN LINE. AND SO IT'S ALSO IN THE TxDOT TEN-YEAR PLAN. BUT FOR THE MPO, IT'S THE FOUR-YEAR PLAN. WE ONLY ADOPT THE FOUR-YEAR PLAN AND WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER ONE, AS I SAID, IN PROBABLY JULY OR AUGUST. AND SO THAT PROJECT WILL STAY IN. THE MONEY'S GOOD FOR A WHILE. BUT IT'S NOW WAITING ON THE DESIGN. WHATEVER THAT FINAL DESIGN IS, WE'LL CATCH IT UP, WE'LL ATTACH THE MONEY TO IT, AND IT WILL GO FORWARD. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILWOMAN, OUR OPTION IS TO WAIT UNTIL FEBRUARY TO HAVE -- WELL, WE NEED AN ORDINANCE. WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TODAY. CORRECT? PETER? >> Zanoni: DO YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE MILES? >> Risley: THEY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S ALREADY ON FOR FEBRUARY 10th. >> Paxson: IT'S ALREADY PREPARED FOR THE 10th? >> Risley: IT'S PREPARED FOR FEBRUARY 10th. >> Zanoni: YOU COULD DO A ONE-READING ORDINANCE FOR IT TONIGHT, COULDN'T YOU? >> Risley: I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT AND COMPARED IT TO WHAT WAS PUT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA, SO I COULDN'T SAY FOR SURE THAT THIS IS THE EXACT ONE THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE DIDN'T -- WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT RESEARCH. IT'S BEING PUT ON FOR THE 10th. >> Paxson: MR. McDONALD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. SORRY FOR THE LATE HOUR. IN OUR DISTRICT WE HAVE A HUGE CONCERN BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG PRIORITY. CORRESPONDENCE CAME THROUGH THE PIPELINE AND MADE IT ACROSS TO SEVERAL OF US THAT WE WERE RISKING LOSING OUR PLACE WITH THAT FUNDING FOR THE COMMODORES TO WHITECAP PORTION OF 22. WE ASKED AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS CONFIRMATION THAT WE COULD RISK LOSING THAT. IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR MOBILITY PLAN APPROVED IN TIME, QUICKLY. BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO REVIEW THIS AGAIN ON THE 5th. SO THE 11th NATURALLY MADE THAT A LITTLE TOO LATE. AND THEN OF COURSE WORKING WITH STAFF, THEY COORDINATED WITH TxDOT AND SAID THAT IF WE COULD GET A LETTER OF RESOLUTION, WE'D STILL KEEP THE PLACEHOLDER ON THAT PROJECT. BUT MY CONCERN IS STILL LEAVING US OPEN TO VULNERABILITY IF WE DON'T HAVE THE PLAN PASSED. SO MAYBE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. >> SURE. LET ME SEE IF I CAN SEPARATE IT FOR YOU. SO AT THE MPO, WE'RE MORE ABOUT THE PROJECTS. THE PROJECTS -- ALL THE PROJECTS FROM YOUR ISLAND MOBILITY PLAN, THEY'RE A LOT. WE AT THE MPO WILL WAIT FOR THE CITY TO SUBMIT A PROJECT, WHICH THEY DID YEARS AGO FOR PARK ROAD 22. THE SCOPE OF THAT WAS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE ISLAND MOBILITY PLAN BEING PASSED. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE IN THERE, IT'S NOT DEFINITIVE IN OUR FOUR-YEAR PLAN. OUR FOUR-YEAR PLAN, THE SCOPE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THAT PROJECT IS REALLY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT LANGUAGE BUT THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OUR PLANNING, OUR FUNDING ALLOCATION DOES NOT REQUIRE IT TO BE IN A PLAN. WHETHER IT'S THE ISLAND MOBILITY PLAN, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU NEED TO BE IN OUR LONG-RANGE PLAN AND OUR FOUR-YEAR PLAN. SO IT'S GOT STANDING. IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. OUR RECOMMENDATION TO OUR POLICY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ON FEBRUARY 5th RIGHT IN THIS VERY ROOM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN AMENDMENT TO OUR FOUR-YEAR PLAN AND THAT'S RELEASING IT FOR A ONE-MONTH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THE FIRST ACTION WOULD BE MARCH 5th IF THAT ONE-LINE ITEM WOULD COME OUT OF THE FOUR-YEAR PLAN -- IT COULD. BUT AS I SAID IT WOULD ROLL OVER IN A FEW MONTHS TO THE NEXT FOUR-YEAR PLAN. THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO SAY PLEASE DO THAT AND THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION FOR A FOLLOW-UP ACTION. AGAIN, SO THE PROJECT IS WELL IDENTIFIED. IT'S UNDERSTOOD AND SO I CAN CONVEY THAT TO OUR POLICY COMMITTEE ON THE 5th, WHICH IS NOT THE ACTION. THAT ACTION IS JUST RELEASE IT FOR A ONE-MONTH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. SO YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE WAY TO MARCH 5th FOR THAT FINAL DECISION ON THAT ONE LINE ITEM. WE HAVE PROBABLY $100 MILLION OF OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE APPROVING. THIS IS JUST ONE LINE ITEM FOR ALMOST $18 MILLION. >> Paxson: ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WOULD BE A HUGE IMPACT. I CAN ONLY BEGIN TO DESCRIBE TO YOU. IF WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE TO NOT ROLL OFF OF THE FIRST FOUR-YEAR PLAN, THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE STEP ONE, IN MY UNDERSTANDING. AND WOULD THE PASS MOBILITY PLAN BE STEP TWO. I DON'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE ROLLING UP AND GIVING US ANYTHING BUT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY. >> SURE. I THINK WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, I THINK OUR POLICY COMMITTEE WOULD TAKE IT TO HEART AND THEY'LL MAKE THAT DECISION. >> Paxson: I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION. >> Zanoni: DO YOU MIND IF I ASK YOU A FOLLOW-UP? WHAT DECISION WILL THEY MAKE, THE POLICY COMMITTEE? >> IN FEBRUARY IT'S RELEASING THE FOUR-YEAR TIP AMENDMENT, WHICH AGAIN HAS MOSTLY TRANSIT PROJECTS AND OTHER PROJECTS. ABOUT $100 MILLION TO -- >> Zanoni: JUST TO RELEASE IT. >> FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Zanoni: ARE THEY TARGETING THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR? >> NO, IT'S LISTED. IT'S ONE OF 50 PROJECTS. >> Zanoni: THE CITY CAN SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT TO SAY WE REALLY WANT THIS IN THE FIRST FOUR-YEAR PROGRAM? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> Zanoni: OKAY. WE'LL BE DOING THAT. >> IT COULD BE A LETTER OF RESOLUTION E-MAIL. >> Zanoni: WE'LL DO ALL THOSE. YOU'LL HAVE THE RESOLUTION BUT I'LL SEND A LETTER MYSELF, AS THE CITY MANAGER, SAYING THIS HAS GOT TO STAY IN THIS FOUR-YEAR BLOCK. WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS. >> Mayor Guajardo: I COORDINATED A MEETING THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. ERNIE WAS AT THE MEETING. MPO WAS AT THE MEETING AND TxDOT. AND THE WHOLE MEETING WAS ABOUT MAKING ABSOLUTE CERTAIN WE WERE NOT GOING TO LOSE OUR PLACE IN LINE. AND PAULETTE -- WHAT IS HER LAST NAME AGAIN? AND SHE WAS THERE. >> YEP. >> Mayor Guajardo: THEY ASSURED US BECAUSE THAT WAS THE CONCERN. >> Zanoni: OKAY. BUT WE'LL FOLLOW THEIR PROCESS AND COMMENT. ERNIE WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS HERE. >> ERNIE DE LA GARZA, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. TO CLARIFY, I THINK THE JEOPARDY THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING TO WAS THAT WHEN TxDOT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A PROJECT ON PARK ROAD 22, WHICH IS ON SYSTEM, THEY NEED TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT THE CITY'S SCOPE IS. AND SO THE PLAN, IN SOME RESPECTS, WAS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH TxDOT'S DESIGN STANDARDS. SO THAT WAS THE ISSUE. AND SO TxDOT WAS TELLING US, LOOK, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IF THAT'S YOUR SCOPE. THE ISSUE WAS REALLY THE GOLF CARTS. YOU KNOW, THAT IS ON THE PLAN AND SO WHAT WE WERE TELLING TxDOT, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE GOLF CARTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS PART OF THE DESIGN CRITERIA. AND SO WE WILL SEND YOU A LETTER FROM THE CITY SAYING THAT THE SCOPE THAT WE WOULD WANT WOULD BE A SCOPE IN LINE WITH TxDOT'S DESIGN CRITERIA AS PER THE ROADWAY DESIGN MANUAL. AND SO THAT'S ONE POINT. THE OTHER ONE IS THEY FOCUS ON ACCESS AND MOBILITY. SO THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS AND THE MOBILITY ARE PRIMARY. AND THEN OF COURSE THE BIKE AND THE PEDESTRIANS, A SHARED-USE PATH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAY BE NECESSARY. THEY MENTIONED OTHER CATEGORIES TO HANDLE THOSE KIND OF NEEDS BUT THE PRIMARY NEED IS MOBILITY, ACCESS, AND SAFETY ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, THAT COMMITMENT FROM US. >> Paxson: OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE CONCERNS WITH THE MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER OR NOT IT ALIGNED WITH TxDOT, WAS REFERENCING THIS TYPE OF A DISTINCTION. >> CORRECT. THAT WAS THE ONLY POINT THAT WAS OUT OF ALIGNMENT. >> Paxson: SO OTHER THAN THAT, WHICH THIS DOCUMENT WE CAN PASS AND IT CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE ITERATIONS. IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE TO PASS THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? IS IT -- I MEAN, I HAVE HEARD YOU CAN PASS IT TODAY OR YOU CAN'T PASS IT TODAY. WE CAN PASS IT ON THE FIRST READING TODAY. WE CAN GET AN ORDINANCE AND PASS IT ON THE 11th. WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, LEGALLY? >> Zanoni: ERNIE, SHOULD WE AMEND THE PLAN FOR THE GOLF CART DISCUSSION YOU JUST HAD? >> I THINK LIKE ROBERT WAS SAYING, THE PLAN IS INDEPENDENT OF THE SCOPE WE GIVE TO TxDOT. AS LONG AS WE GIVE TxDOT THAT COMMITMENT ON THE SCOPE, THE PLAN REALLY DOESN'T IMPACT IT. NOW, THERE MAY BE THINGS ON THE PLAN THAT WON'T BE REALIZED, LIKE A GOLF CART LANE AND A SHARED-USE PATH. AS LONG AS WE TELL TxDOT WE'RE GOING TO ABIDE BY YOUR DESIGN STANDARDS AND THIS IS THE SCOPE WE WANT FOR PARK ROAD 22, THAT'S REALLY ALL THEY NEED FOR US. >> Zanoni: COUNCILWOMAN, I WOULD RECOMMEND -- SO THE COUNCIL HAS THE PLAN -- I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON IT BUT NOBODY HAS IT IN FRONT OF THEM NOW. I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT IT ON FOR THAT FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 7, AND DO A FIRST READING. WE COULD DO A TWO-READ APPROVAL THAT DAY. OR WE CAN DO THE 7th AND THEN THE 17th. >> Paxson: THE OTHER THING IS -- EXCUSE ME, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT. >> Zanoni: YOU'RE FINE. >> Paxson: IF WE'RE PATCHING PASSING IT AS-IS, BARRING WE DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE HERE. IF WE ARE HAVING TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL REVISION OR MODIFICATION TO MATCH TxDOT -- AND THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING IS OPPOSITION OR CHALLENGES TO CREATING THAT DESIGNATED PATH FOR GOLF CARTS. I THINK THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THIS ON THE 11th WITH THAT IN MIND, NEXT WEEK ISAC HAS A MEETING. WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA. >> Zanoni: WE CAN. BUT YOU'RE SAYING KEEP THE GOLF CARTS IN THE PLAN, RIGHT? >> YEAH. THE PLAN IS -- >> Zanoni: YEAH, COUNCILWOMAN, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING CHANGING THE PLAN. >> Paxson: SO YOU DIDN'T SAY GOLF CARTS? I MUST HAVE MISHEARD YOU. >> THE PLAN DOES NOT DICTATE WHAT TxDOT IS GOING TO DO. OUR LETTER ASKING THE SCOPE DICTATES WHAT TxDOT IS GOING TO DO ON THEIR PROJECT. SO WE HAVE -- WE'VE HAD BIKE PLANS THAT WE NEVER BROUGHT TO FRUITION. SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, A BOND PROJECT THAT HAS A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN FOR BIKE MOBILITY, MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN WHEN YOU COME TO THE DESIGN PHASE. IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING, IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WE WOULD ABIDE BY THE PLAN, IF POSSIBLE. BUT IT'S NOT A COMMITMENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO FULLY KEEP IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. >> Zanoni: YEAH. TO THAT END, I WOULD KEEP IT LIKE IT IS SO THERE'S NOT THIS QUESTION OF WE TOOK SOMETHING OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE. THE PLAN IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT. IT'S NOT THE ENGINEERING SPECIFICATION. >> Paxson: BUT IF WE'RE SENDING A RESOLUTION SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ABIDE BY TxDOT AND TxDOT SAYS NO GOLF CARTS. >> THAT'S WHY TxDOT IS GOING TO GET OUR LETTER AND WE CAN GO AND SUBMIT A LETTER ASIDE FROM THIS PLAN, AS PER TxDOT, WITH A COMMITMENT SAYING THAT WE WANT A PROJECT THAT ABIDES BY THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS. IT COULD BE SIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND PAULA SAID THAT'S ENOUGH. THAT'S ALL THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND KEEPING IT ON THE MPO PLAN. >> Paxson: THAT'S WITHOUT THE GOLF CARTS. THAT'S MY PROBLEM. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I UNDERSTAND WE CAN KEEP THE PLAN. IF WE NEED TO DO A PROJECT ASIDE THAT DEVIATES SLIGHTLY FROM THE PLAN FOR VARIOUS REASONS, IT'S DOABLE. I GET THAT. I'M TRACKING. MY CONCERN IS IF WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT A RESOLUTION TO TxDOT SAYING WE RECOGNIZE YOU DON'T WANT GOLF CARTS ON PARK ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO PLAY BY THE RULES, WE'LL BE FINE. YET WE'RE ADOPTING A PLAN THAT'S IN OPPOSITION TO THAT AND WE'RE KNOWINGLY CONTRADICTING OURSELVES, I'M CONCERNED IF WE CUT THE ISAC PIECE OUT. THAT'S WHERE THIS DISCUSSION MAKES IT TO THEIR AGENDA, BECAUSE WE NEED TO NOTIFY THEM. >> Zanoni: WE GO TO ALL THEIR MEETINGS SO WE CAN CERTAINLY GET IT ON THEIR AGENDA NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN HAVE AN AMENDED PLAN FOR THE FIRST READING FEBRUARY 7. >> Scott: 7th IS A SATURDAY. >> Zanoni: SORRY. THE 10th. FEBRUARY 10th. WE CAN BRING IT, THE AMENDED VERSION TO ISAC NEXT WEEK, IF THAT'S WHEN THEIR MEETING IS. AMEND THE DOCUMENT AND BRING THE FINAL PLAN ON THE 10th. >> Paxson: SO THIS DOESN'T JEOPARDIZE OUR RESOLUTION AND WE CANNOT PASS THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ORDINANCE BUT WE'LL GET IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA. >> Zanoni: I DON'T THINK IT JEOPARDIZES THE RESOLUTION. ROB McDONALD SAID NO IT WON'T JEOPARDIZE THE RESOLUTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: NO. I THINK IT'S WISE TO TAKE IT BACK BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY. IT'S GOING TO BE READY FOR FEBRUARY TO TAKE BACK TO ISAC. THEY'RE THINKING THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED IS WHAT THEY APPROVED AND THAT'S REALLY NOT WHAT ALIGNS WITH TxDOT, CORRECT? >> Paxson: WE NEED TO SHOW THEM THAT PLAN. AS HE SAID, IT'S BEEN IN THERE FOR YEARS. AND SHOW THE DIFFERENCE. WE'RE NOT NEGATING THE MOBILITY PLAN BUT WE MAY HAVE TO MODIFY FOR THIS. THAT'S THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM. >> Zanoni: THAT'S CORRECT. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO. THIS IS GOING TO GO ON THE FEBRUARY -- >> Zanoni: FEBRUARY 10. >> Mayor Guajardo: DO WE NEED TO DO ANY ACTION NOW? >> Paxson: WE CAN STILL DO THE RESOLUTION. >> Zanoni: YOU CAN DO 30 TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION. >> Paxson: WHERE'S ROLAND? DOES HE WANT TO HOLD HIS MOTION? >> Mayor Guajardo: HE WITHDREW IT. >> Paxson: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 30. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: YEAH. I SIGNED THIS THREE-SIGNATURE MEMO BECAUSE I KNOW ON MY END WE LOST FUNDING FOR HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS IN DISTRICT 5 BECAUSE WE WEREN'T READY OR WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PARKS AND RECREATION OR PUBLIC WORKS. WE LOST THAT FUNDING. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO, WE CAN GET THAT -- WHATEVER FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WHATEVER YOU NEED US TO DO SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE SCREWED UP AGAIN LIKE WE DID WITH THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS IN DISTRICT 5. >> Zanoni: I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE RIGHT NOW, COUNCILMAN. I AGREE. WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE MONEY. >> Hernandez: WELL, WE LOST MONEY. WE EVEN HAD PUBLIC COMMENT FROM WHAT'S HER NAME, SHIRIN DELSOOZ ASKING US TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDING AND WE WEREN'T READY. WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO. >> Zanoni: DO WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT OR WE HAD THE MONEY? >> Hernandez: MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT. >> Zanoni: IT WAS A GRANT OPPORTUNITY? I GUESS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY. >> Hernandez: IT'S MPO FUNDING FOR PROJECTS. >> Zanoni: THAT'S WHY I'M UNFAMILIAR. >> Mayor Guajardo: THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. >> Zanoni: PETER, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT THIS IS A WHOLE OTHER ITEM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. TO Y'ALL'S POINT. >> Hernandez: SHOULD I DO A THREE-SIGNATURE MEMO ON THAT ONE? WHY WE SCREWED UP AND DIDN'T GET MONEY? >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> Hernandez: I DID TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER. I TALKED TO FREAKING WHAT'S HIS NAME? ROBERT. AND I EVEN INTRODUCED HIM TO HIM AND WE GOT NOTHING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SUPPORT AND MAKE SURE WE CAN GET FUNDING -- >> Zanoni: WE AGREE. I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THIS CASE THAT HAPPENED HERE AND WE'LL GET SOME RESOLUTION. >> Hernandez: ALL RIGHT. OH, MAYOR, DON'T FORGET. >> Zanoni: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE'LL GO TO THAT NEXT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE -- >> City Secretary: IT'S NOT A RESOLUTION THOUGH RIGHT? IT'S JUST A MOTION. THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. >> Zanoni: MOTION TO DISCUSS THE PASSING OF -- >> City Secretary: THERE IS NO RESOLUTION SO IT'S JUST A MOTION? >> Zanoni: OKAY. >> City Secretary: THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE IT A MOTION. GREAT. >> Mayor Guajardo: SO WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. REBECCA, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? >> City Secretary: [OFF MIC] >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. >> City Secretary: THE ITEM SAYS IT'S A RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION ATTACHED SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO PASS A MOTION. SO IT'S GOING TO BE MOTION IN SUPPORT OF THE MPO PROJECT CSJ. THE REST OF THE WORDING. BUT WHERE IT SAYS "RESOLUTION" WE DON'T HAVE ONE BEFORE US. SO IT WOULD JUST BE A MOTION. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU'RE CHANGING. >> Paxson: [OFF MIC] >> City Secretary: OKAY. >> Mayor Guajardo: NOT A RESOLUTION. OKAY. I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON ITEM NO. 30? OKAY. THERE BEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ, YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR ITEM NO. 33. >> Hernandez: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AGREEMENTS WITH THE OWNERS OF APPROXIMATELY 5,047 ACRES OF THE RANCH TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH OPTIONS TO PURCHASE GROUNDWATER RIGHTS ON SIMILAR TERMS ADDS THE EVANGELINE RIGHTS PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT IN EXCHANGE FOR MUTUAL COMMITMENTS REGARDING PERMITTING AND CITY OBLIGATIONS IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF UP TO $315,400 PER YEAR FOR SAID OPTIONS. >> Mayor Guajardo: YOU SECONDED? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR VOTE. OKAY. THE MOTION CARRIES. AND OUR LAST ITEM OF THE EVENING IS ITEM 32, AND THAT IS ANIMAL CARE SERVICES' OPERATIONAL BRIEFING.>> GOOD EVENING, MAYORD COUNCIL. KATHLEEN CHAPA, DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL CARE SERVICES HERE TO PROVIDE OUR OPERATIONAL BRIEFING. WITH ME TODAY IS MS. CYNTHIA MARTINEZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. BEFORE I START THE PRESENTATION I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE REMARKABLE DEDICATION OF OUR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES TEAM. EVERYDAY THEY ARRIVE READY TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF COMMUNITY AND IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM. IN JUNE OF 2023 ANIMAL CARE SERVICES BECAME A STANDALONE DEPARTMENT AS AN IMPROVEMENT TO IMPROVING OUR PRAYINGS. THE CITY MANAGER IDENTIFIED YEARS OF OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES WITHIN ACS. PROMPTING THE DECISION TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE OPERATIONAL STUDY. THIS ASSESSMENT AIMS TO EVALUATE OUR POLICIES, PROCEDURES WORKFLOW FACILITY EFFECTIVENESS, COMMUNICATION, CULTURE AND STAFFING. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023 THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ENGAGING CITY GATE ASSOCIATES TO SPEARHEAD THIS CRUCIAL ASSESSMENT. TOGETHER WE ARE EMBARKING ON A MULTI-YEAR INITIATIVE TO RESTRUCTURE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ACROSS ALL DIVISIONS. OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO ENHANCE THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFECTIVENESS AND IMPROVE OUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MEANINGFUL IMPROVEMENTS TAKE TIME. A ONE YEAR TURN AROUND IS NOT FEASIBLE. ADDRESSING ISSUES LIKE PET OVERPOPULATION REQUIRES NOT ONLY OUR EFFORTS, BUT ALSO PUBLIC SUPPORT, PARTNERSHIPS, EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. DESPITE THESE CHALLENGES, WE ARE MAKING STRIDES TOWARD EMPOWERING CORPUS CHRISTI ANIMAL CARE SERVICES TO EFFECTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR, PROMOTE AND SAFEGUARD THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR PETS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE OUR VITAL WORK. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO OVERVIEW OUR CITYGATE OPERATIONAL ASSESSMENT FOR 2025 PROGRESS REPORT. WE'LL LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROMS AND FY2026 FIRST QUARTER SHELTER STATISTICS. THE REPORT INCLUDING APPENDICES LISTED THE COMPLETED RECOMMENDATIONS WAS SENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 12TH OF 2025. A LITTLE BACKGROUND. ON MAY 8th OF 2025, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IN COLLABORATION WITH CITYGATE ASSOCIATES PROVIDED THEIR REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. CITY GATE'S ASSOCIATION PROVIDED A COMPREHENSIVE ROADMAP COMPRISING OF 170 RECOMMENDATIONS TO MODERNIZE ACS OPERATIONS. A MAJORITY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE RELATED TO INTERNAL OPERATIONS, INCLUDING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. CITYGATE ORGANIZED THE 170 RECOMMENDATIONS INTO SEVEN CATEGORIES: STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, OPERATIONS STAFFING WEBSITE FACILITIES CULTURE AND STATISTICS. ON THIS SIDE IT LAYS OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN CATEGORIES. THE LARGEST CATEGORY BEING OUR STAD STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. THIS SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE ORIGINAL IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE. THE MAJORITY OF RECOMMENDATIONS RELATE TO INTERNAL OPERATIONS, INCLUDING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. EVERY LEVEL OF ACS LEADERSHIP EXECUTIVES SUPERVISORS, AND LEADS, MEET WITH CITYGATE WEEKLY. TO BUILD A SOLID FOUNDATION ACS SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED 96 OF THE 170 RECOMMENDATIONS SURPASSING OUR GOAL BY 31. INITIALLY CITYGATE AND ACS AIM TO IMPLEMENT MORE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FY25. BY SURPASSING OUR GOAL, ACS HAS COMPLETED OVER 56% OF THE 170 RECOMMENDATION. NINE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE COMPLETED AHEAD OF SCHEDULE DUE TO A MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2025. THIS IS AN ADDED SLIDE FROM WHAT WAS SENT TO YOU ORIGINALLY. WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME NOTABLE COMPLETED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE COMPLETED IN FY2025. ACS HAD ONGOING CHALLENGES MEETING THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS AND FIELD OPERATIONS AND PROVIDING CONSISTENT PRACTICES, PRIORITIES AND DATA ENTRY, WHICH LED TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE FIELD PROCEDURES MANUAL THAT IS GIVEN TO EVERY OFFICER AS A GUIDE. WITH THIS IMPLEMENTATION, STAFF ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW ESTABLISHED PROTOCOLS THAT ENSURE HIGH QUALITY CARE AND COMPLY WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS. THESE PROTOCOLS ALSO SERVE AS A VITAL TRAINING RESOURCE FOR OUR NEW STAFF, OUTLINING HUMANE METHODS FOR ANIMAL CAPTURE, RESTRAINT AND PROPER HOUSING ENVIRONMENTS, WHILE MINIMIZING ANIMAL STRESS AND ENSURING OFFICER SAFETY. ACS WAS NOT IN LINE WITH THE NATIONAL TREND OF OPENING TO THE PUBLIC FOR ADOPTIONS AND CLAIMS BY NOON TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO WORK REGULAR OFFICE HOURS TO COME TO THE SHELTER, WHICH LED TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO OPEN THE SHELTER FOR ANIMAL AREAS AT NOON TO INCREASE ADOPTION AVAILABILITY. THIS CHANGE WAS IMPLEMENTED ON SEPTEMBER 1st, 2025 TO INCREASE AVAILABILITY FOR ADOPTIONS. SINCE ACS WAS A PART OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS IT LACKED THE BASIC MANAGEMENT STAFF TO HELP TRANSITION THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED THAT WERE ALSO OUTLINED IN THE ASSESSMENT, WHICH THEN LED TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO HIRE AN EXPERIENCED ANIMAL WELFARE PROFESSIONAL FOR THE ROLE OF ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. THIS UPPER LEVEL MANAGEMENT POSITION WAS KEY IN TRANSITIONING THE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS RECOMMENDED IN THE ASSESSMENT. THE POSITION WAS FILLED IN JULY OF 2004 AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THE REPORT BECAUSE WE DID UNDERSTAND THAT WAS NEEDED NEEDED. A LACK OF DISPATCHER LED TO A DELAY IN ASSIGNMENTS. THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL DISPATCHER TO IMPROVE CALL EFFICIENCY, RESPONSE TIMES AND OFFICER SAFETY WAS COMPLETED. AND THE DISPATCHER ORGANIZE AND PRIORITIZES CALLS FOR OFFICERS BASED ON URGENCY, LOCATION, WHILE ALSO MONITORING THE SAFETY AND SUPPORT. ACTING AS THE CENTRAL HUB FOR FIELD OPERATIONS, THE ADDITION OF THE SECOND DISPATCHER, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE MIDYEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENT, HAS IMPROVED RESOURCE DEPLOYMENT AND OVERSIGHT, ENHANCING OFFICER SAFETY IN THE FIELD. THERE WERE FOUR POSITIONS TASKED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF VOLUNTEER COORDINATION, RESCUE OPERATIONS, ADOPTION PROCESSES AND FOSTER CARE MANAGEMENT. THE LACK OF CLEARLY DEFINED JOB ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES LED TO MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO ESTABLISH PARTNERSHIPS AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH LED TO THE RECOMMENDATION TO DEDICATE EXISTING POSITIONS TO VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, RESCUE FOSTER COORDINATOR AND TWO ADOPTION COUNSELORS. THE FOCUSED POSITIONS THAT WERE CREATED HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFULLY FILLED AND EACH INDIVIDUAL IS UNDERGOING COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING DESIGNED TO ENHANCE THEIR EFFECTIVENESS. THESE FOCUS POSITIONS ALLOW THEM TO CONCENTRATE ON THE PROVISION, MONITORING AND ADJUSTMENT OF ANIMAL CARE, THEREBY FOSTERING A MORE EFFICIENT AND ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH PUBLIC AND OUR PARTNERS. AND LASTLY, PRIOR TO USE OF -- PRIOR USE OF INCONSISTENT INFORMATION ENTERED ON INTAKE AND/OR CALLS FOR SERVICE LED TO THE LAST LISTED NOTABLE RECOMMENDATION. TO USE STANDARD AND CONSISTENT INTAKE AND OUTCOME STRATEGIES. THE STANDARD CATEGORIES HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED TO ENSURE ACCURATE AND RELIABLE INFORMATION IS COLLECTED, THERE BY IMPROVING DECISION MAKING INCREASING OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND THEN WHILE ELIMINATING ERRORS AND INCONSISTENCIES. THIS IS OUR FISCAL 2026 IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IT HAS BEEN UPDATED DUE TO EXCEEDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 GOAL. CITYGATE AND ACS HAVE OUTPUTTED THE 2026 IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE COMPLETED 96 IN 2025 AND OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE 50 IN 2026. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND OPERATIONS, WHICH ACCOUNT FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE REMAINING RECOMMENDATIONS. OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE ADDITIONAL 50 RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE BY ACHIEVING A TOTAL COMPLETION RATE OF 85%. THIS IS ANOTHER ADDITIONAL SLIDE. WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON. MANAGED ADMISSION ENSURES THAT SHELTER DOES NOT EXCEED ITS CAPACITY TO PROVIDE HUMANE CARE SUCH AS ENOUGH SPACE, STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES WHICH DIRECTLY IMPACT ANIMAL HEALTH. TO IMPLEMENT, MANAGE ADMISSION PRACTICE, IT WOULD BE MANAGED INTAKE. ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS CANNOT TACKLE THE PET OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM ALONE. THEREFORE WE MUST EDUCATE AND SUPPORT THE PUBLIC FOR CARING FOR THREATS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. MANAGED INTAKE IS A CRUCIAL ASPECT OF THIS APPROACH. IT INVOLVES KEEPING OWNED PETS IN THEIR HOMES THROUGH VARIOUS SUPPORT SERVICES AND EDUCATIONAL INCENTIVES. ADDITIONALLY, IT FOCUSES ON COLLABORATING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO FIND PLACEMENTS FOR STRAY ANIMALS WITHOUT BRINGING THEM INTO THE SHELTER. THESE CHANGES ACT TO CREATE MORE SPACE FOR PETS THAT LACK SAFE ENVIRONMENTS, ALLOWING THEM TO ENTER THE SHELTER WITHOUT OVERWHELMING THE DEPARTMENT'S CAPACITY. ESSENTIALLY THIS MEANS THAT THE ANIMALS MOST IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE CAN COME INTO THE SHELTER. WHILE THOSE WITH SUPPORT SYSTEMS OUTSIDE CAN RECEIVE HELP WITHOUT BEING BROUGHT IN. IMPROVED DATA COLLECTION, RESPONSE TIMES AND OFFICER UNDERSTANDING. ACCURATE DATA COLLECTION, ENTRY AND REPORTING WILL ALLOW OFFICERS TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIMES AND FACILITATE EFFICIENT, TARGETED FIELD INTERVENTIONS. MANAGING SERVICES REQUIRES A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHAT IS BEING DONE. BY STANDARDIZING OUR DATA COLLECTION, OUR OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO REVIEW CALL RECORDS QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY FOR KEY INFORMATION NEEDED TO SERVICE CALLS THEY MAY BE WORKING. THE INTRODUCED EFFICIENCIES ARE ALSO ALLOWING THE STAFF TO SERVICE CALLS FOR-PROFIT FASTER. TRAINING IS BEING CONDUCTED TO ENSURE THAT ALL OFFICERS HAVE THE SAME UNDERSTANDING OF THE RESPONSE AND HOW TO BEST IMPLEMENT IT. TRAINING LEADERSHIP IN THE EFFECTIVE USE OF REPORTS. THIS IS THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT WE UTILIZE TO INPUT CALLS FOR SERVICE AND TRACK. DUE TO PRIOR POOR DATA ENTRY PROCEDURES AND LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROGRAM, LEADERSHIP HAD NOT HISTORICALLY RELIED ON CHAMELEON DATA TO MAKE SURE STRATEGIC DECISIONS ABOUT RESOURCE DECISION, STAFF TIME AND PRIORITIES. IT'S IMPERATIVE FOR LEADERSHIP TO LEVERAGE DATA AND REPORTS TO IDENTIFY SEASONAL TRENDS, ALLOCATE RESOURCES MORE EFFECTIVELY, PROACTIVELY ADDRESS ANIMAL CARE REQUIREMENTS AND ENHANCE EFFECTIVENESS. AND THE LAST ONE WE'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON IS DEVELOP SPECIFIC VOLUNTEER ROLES AND PROVIDE TRAINING TO THE VOLUNTEERS. TO ENSURE THAT VOLUNTEERS ARE ADEQUATELY EQUIPPED WITH THE ESSENTIAL KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS REQUIRED FOR THE EFFECTIVE HANDLING, SOCIALIZATION AND CARE FOR ANIMALS, IT'S IMPERATIVE TO CLEARLY DEFINE THEIR ROLES. THIS WILL ENABLE VOLUNTEERS TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC LABOR SHORTAGES WITHIN OUR UNDERSTAFFED FACILITY, THEREBY ENHANCING OUR OVERALL CAPACITY PROVIDED FOR OPTIMAL CARE AND SERVICE. THIS CHART ILLUSTRATES ACS OVERALL PROGRESS IN IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND INDICATES THE NUMBER OF REMAINING RECOMMENDATIONS BY CATEGORY. YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE BLUE ARE TOTAL, ORANGE IN PROGRESS AND GREEN ARE COMPLETE. AS OF NOW WE HAVE 74 ADDITIONAL IN PROGRESS, SO OUR GOAL OF COMPLETING 50 IS ATTAINABLE. NEXT WE'LL GO OVER OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRESS REPORT. A LITTLE BACKGROUND, CITYGATE ASSESSMENT REVEALED THAT ACS COMPLEX IS OUTDATED AND INSUFFICIENT TO MEET CURRENT OPERATIONAL NEEDS. BUILT IN 2004, IT HAS NOT UNDERGONE SIGNIFICANT I AM GRADES SINCE ITS CONSTRUCTION. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN ADJUSTMENT OF $3 MILLION FOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND STAFFING ENHANCEMENTS. THIS IS THE UPDATE FOR THE CAPITAL INITIATIVES AS OF DECEMBER 1st OF 2025 AND IS PROVIDED BIMONTHLY TO CITY COUNCIL. OTHER FACILITY ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDED KENNEL BUILDING 3, ENVELOPE AND HV VAC, OUR AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM. OUR MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, AND INCINERATOR REPLACEMENT AND SECURITY GATE REPAIR. KENNEL BUILDING 3, ENVELOPE AND HVAC ARE AIR CONDITIONED. THE PROJECT SCOPE WAS TO RETROFIT KENNEL BUILDING 3 TO MAINTAIN TEMPERATURES BELOW 85 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT, IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND WELL BAG OF ANIMALS BY REDUCING TEMPERATURE RELATED STRESS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR ADOPTERS TO [INDISCERNIBLE]. THE PROJECT STATUS, THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND CONSTRUCTION IS SET TO BEGIN IN JUNE OF 2026 AND EXPECTED TO TAKE 300 DAYS ACROSS TWO PHASES. DUE TO MANUFACTURING DELAYS, THE ACTUAL AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM SHOULD BE ARRIVING IN JUNE OF 2026. WITH PROPOSED COMPLETION MOVED TO FEBRUARY 2027, INITIALLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER OF 2026. THE CONTRACTOR IS WORKING TO MINIMIZE THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION TIME DESPITE THESE SETBACKS. AND AGAIN, IT IS MANUFACTURER DELAYS. AND HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING KENNEL 3. NEXT IS OUR ROOF REPLACEMENT AND WASH BAY UPGRADE. IT WAS FIVE OF SEVEN ROOFS THAT WERE REPLACED. THE PROJECT ADDRESSED AGING ROOF SYSTEMS BY INSTALLING NEW ROOFING ON THE CAT BUILDING, THE MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE BUILDING, THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, KENNEL BUILDING 1 AND KENNEL BUILDING 3. THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE. IT HAS BEEN INSPECTED AND IT IS ALL ON. THE VEHICLE WASH BAY WAS TO ESTABLISH A DEDICATED AREA FOR WASHING ANIMAL CARE VEHICLES, FOCUSING ON PROPER DRAINAGE TO MANAGE PATHOGENS AND CLEANING CHEMICALS TO PREVENT STORM WATER CONTAMINATION AND THE SPREAD OF GERMS INTO THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY, AND THAT PROJECT IS ALSO COMPLETE. HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE ROOFS THAT WERE REPLACED. AND OF OUR WASH BAY UPGRADE DURING AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION. NEXT IS OUR ADMIN BUILDING, MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING IMPROVEMENTS. IT WAS TO ADDRESS THE FAILURES OF CONDENSING UNITS IN THE ADMIN AND CLINIC BUILDING, WHICH HAVE CAUSED INADEQUATE VENTILATION AND IMPOSED RISK TO THE ADMIN AND SURGICAL WING. IT IS COMPLETE, BUT DUE TO MANUFACTURING DELAYS DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND IS SCHEDULED TO START IN JULY OF 2026 AND COMPLETED BY JANUARY OF 2027. HERE ARE A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE EXISTING. WE HAVE OUR INCINERATOR REPLACEMENT, IT'S TO REPLACE THE EXISTING CREMATION UNIT BECAUSE IT'S UNSUITABLE FOR MUNICIPAL SHELTER AS IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR COMMUNAL USE. THE LIMITED NUMBER OF QUALIFIED VENDORS WHO CAN SERVICE THE EXISTING UNIT OFTEN RESULTS IN SEVERAL MONTHS OF NECESSARY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. AS OF NOW OUR INCINERATOR IS USE AND IS FUNCTIONING. THE PROJECT STATUS, IT IS IN DESIGN PHASE, ABOUT 90% COMPLETE, WITH AN ESTIMATED MINIMUM DURATION OF SIX MONTHS FOR MANUFACTURING AND DELIVERY. PICTURE OF THE EXAMPLE REPLACEMENT. AND THE LAST PROJECT WAS THE SECURITY GATE REPAIR. IT REPLACED THE NON-FUNCTIONAL SECURITY GATE AND THE ANIMAL LOADING AREA. THE EXISTING GATE WAS UNABLE TO CLOSE AND IT POSED A SAFETY RISK AND ALLOWING ANIMALS TO ESCAPE. THE NEW GATE ENHANCED SECURITY TO PREVENT ANIMALS ESCAPING DURING TRANSPORT AND THAT IS ALSO COMPLETE. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THAT. NOW, FOR OUR NEXT REPORT OR PROGRESS, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO CYNTHIA MARTINEZ, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, AND SHE'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE OVERVIEW OF THE FIRST QUARTER SHELTER STATISTICS. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA MARTINEZ AND I AM THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES. AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE I PRESENT THE STATISTICS FOR OUR FIRST QUARTER TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR DEDICATED TEAM WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY BOTH FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE PETS OF CORPUS CHRISTI. FROM OUR ON-SITE STAFF TO OUR ANIMAL CARE OFFICERS, THEY HAVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY EMBRACED THE RECOMMENDATIONS BROUGHT FORTH BY CITYGATE AND ARE COMMITTED TO BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, DESPITE FACING SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES SUCH AS VERBAL ABUSE AND EVEN THREATS TO THEIR PERSONAL SAFETY. THEIR RESILIENCE IS RULELY IMPRESSIVE. WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR EFFORTS AND THEIR DEDICATION TO IMPROVING CORPUS CHRISTI FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR PETS. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE WORK OF OUR TEAM THAT THEY REFORM DAILY. PERFORM DAILY. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR INTAKES. AND THIS IS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER, AS YOU CAN SEE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY RELATED TO DOGS AND CATS, BUT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES DOES SERVICE CALLS FOR WILD ANIMALS AND LIVESTOCK. YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR DOGS AND CATS, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE PRINCIPALLY IMPOUNDING DOGS WITH A TOTAL OF 172 FOR THE FIRST QUARTER. THIS IS AVERAGING TO ABOUT 70 INTAKES A MONTH. WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR OUTCOMES. WE HAD 811 OUTCOMES FOR THE FIRST QUARTER WITH A MAJORITY OF THOSE BEING ADOPTION. WE HAD 316 ADOPTIONS, 214 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO RESCUE, AND 112 WERE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS. OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE BY MONTH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE QUARTERLY AVERAGE FOR -- THE AVERAGE FOR OUR LIVE RELEASE FOR THAT FIRST QUARTER IS 80%, AND OF COURSE LIVE RELEASE IS DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ENTER YOUR FACILITY DURING THAT TIME FRAME, LEAVING WITH A POSITIVE OUTCOME, BE IT RETURN TO OWNER, TRANSFERRED OUT OR ADOPTED. NEXT WE HAVE OUR AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY. YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART HERE THAT WE HAVE DAYS IN SHELTER, DAYS IN FOSTER AND THEN TOTAL DAYS IN CARE. WE BREAK OUT DAYS IN FOSTER BECAUSE WHILE THOSE ANIMALS ARE STILL IN OUR CUSTODY WHILE THEY GO INTO A TEMPORARY PLACEMENT IN A FOSTER HOME, THEY FREE UP A CAGE. WE PUT ANIMALS INTO FOSTER CARE FOR REASONS SUCH AS MEDICAL NEEDS, BEHAVIORAL NEEDS OR TO MAKE SPACE WITHIN THE FACILITY. SO OUR DAYS IN SHELTER NUMBER IS GOING TO BE LOWER THAN OUR DAYS IN CARE BECAUSE OF THAT TIME THAT THEY SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE SHELTER IN THAT FOSTER HOME. NEXT IS OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD -- SORRY, MY EYES ARE TERRIBLE. OUR INITIAL CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THE FIRST QUARTER WE RECEIVED 3,000402 AND WE COMPLETED 3,105. OF THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE, THEY'RE PRINCIPALLY COMPRISED OF STRAY CALLS AND BITE CALLS, WHICH SPEAKS TO THE ROAMING PET PROBLEM WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. THE NEXT HIGHEST CATEGORY IS INVESTIGATIONS. NOW INVESTIGATIONS WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE A TEAM OF INVESTIGATORS WHO WILL GO AND FOLLOW UP ON INITIAL CALLS THAT MAY HAVE COME IN AS A STRAY, MAY HAVE COME IN AS A BITE OR CRUELTY OR NEGLECT. AND THEIR FINALIZING THAT INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE DOES THIS QUALIFY AS MAYBE A SERIOUS INJURY TO A HUMAN BEING, WAS THIS ANIMAL A VICTIM OF CRUELTY OR NEGLECT, DID THIS PERSON GET BIT AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAWS ARE BEING FOLLOWED AS FAR AS THEY GO TO QUARANTINE? NEXT WE HAVE OUR CITATIONS ISSUED. AS YOU CAN SEE WE ISSUED -- SORRY, OVER 1400 CITATIONS IN THAT FIRST QUARTER WITH THE BULK OF THOSE BEING RELATED TO RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP. WHILE WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT ENFORCEMENT IS IMPORTANT FOR GETTING OUR COMMUNITY TO BE BETTER STEWARD IT IS FOR THEIR PETS, EDUCATION IS ALSO IMPORTANT. BUT WE DO ISSUE CITATIONS FOR THOSE TOP ISSUES THAT RELATE TO THE STRAY POPULATION ISSUES. SO OUR FAILURE TO OBTAIN RABIES VACCINES, INTACT ANIMALS WITHOUT A PERMIT, NO MICROCHIP REGISTRATION, AND ANIMALS ROAMING THE STREETS ARE THE TOP CATEGORIES THAT WE ISSUE. AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR RECOMMENDATION. OUR PRESENTATION AND WE ARE ABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCIL MEMBER CAMPOS. >> Campos: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS AND I WAS LOOKING FOR MY OWN COPY. I THINK YOU ALREADY SENT THEM RIGHT? I WAS LOOKING FOR IT IN MY EMAIL. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT. IS THERE A REASON WHY IT'S DONE QUARTERLY AND NOT MONTHLY? >> YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR STATS MONTHLY ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE WE PROVIDE ALL OF THIS TO OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> Campos: YOU PROVIDE WHAT? >> ALL OF THESE OUTPUTS TO THE ADVISE I -- UPDATES TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MONTHLY. >> Campos: AND AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES, ARE YOU FULLY STAFFED NOW? >> SO WE'RE ACTIVELY RECRUITING FOR EVERY OPEN POSITION THAT WE HAVE. WE DO HAVE, I BELIEVE, SIX OFFICER POSITIONS OPEN THAT IS POSTED AND WE'RE ALSO ON THE SCHEDULE TO GO TO THE JOB FAIR. >> Campos: OKAY. AND SO WHEN YOU DO HIRE THOSE OFFICERS WE DO HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, THE VEHICLE TO GO -- SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY THEN SIX VEHICLES THAT ARE READY IF WE HIRE A PERSON? >> WE HAVE ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WILL NEED ONCE THEY'RE FULLY THE OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, YES, MA'AM. >> Campos: OKAY. AND I WAS ALSO WONDERING ABOUT THE RETENTION OF YOUR EMPLOYEES. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE RETENTION OF YOUR EMPLOYEES? I KNOW IT'S A HIGH TURNOVER BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S A DIFFICULT JOB. >> SO THAT IS -- WE CAN ASK HR WHAT OUR TURNOVER RATE IS, HOWEVER, THAT DOES SPEAK TO WHAT THE CULTURE WAS AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AS WELL WHILE WE'RE RESTRUCTURING AND REDOING EVERYTHING AT ACS IS WORKING ON THE CULTURE. SO THAT IS GOING TO HELP US KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES. >> Campos: OKAY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE IT. >> NO, WE'LL HAVE TO GET IT FOR YOU. >> Campos: WELL, I MEAN, YOU HAVE DONE GREAT IMPROVEMENTS. LET ME MOVE THIS. IT'S -- Y'ALL HAVE REALLY DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL. AND OF COURSE THE CALLS AS WELL. AGAIN, ME PERSONALLY, I'M JUST NOT RECEIVING THE CALLS THAT I USED TO IN MY DISTRICT, BUT I STILL SEE I THINK ON ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT DISTRICT 2 STILL HAS I THINK SOME OF THE HIGHEST CALLS, IS THAT CORRECT? I DIDN'T -- LIKE I SAID, I WAS LOOKING FOR MY SLIDE. >> AND YOU ARE CENTRAL CITY SO WE WILL PROBABLY GET A LOT FROM YOU. >> Campos: OKAY. YEAH. I GUESS -- IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION, THE LATEST ONE, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO KEEP UP AND I COULDN'T. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> YES, MA'AM. AND I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT, BUT WE'LL RESEND IT OUT. >> Campos: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT. >> Scott: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK THERE'S GREAT PROGRESS AND I THINK YOU HAVE A PLAN, YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN, YOU'RE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THE PLAN AND THAT'S ALL GOOD STUFF. THERE WAS A COMMENT, WAS IT TODAY, TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS WE EUTHANIZED. >> DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, YES SIR. >> Scott: I WANTED TO QUICKLY, MAYBE I ZONED OUT FOR A SECOND, I APOLOGIZE. SO WE ONLY EUTHANIZE -- ONE IS TOO MANY -- 20 HEALTHY ANIMALS -- >> PER SPACE. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS MISSED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WAS 24 PER SPACE. >> Scott: WHICH IS TOO MANY. BUT NOT 700. >> 700 TOTAL. >> Scott: RIGHT. >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> YES, SIR. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN HERNANDEZ. >> Hernandez: I HAVE SOME INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS ON SOME OF THE PAGES. ON PAGE NUMBER 25 WHERE YOU HAVE THE PIE CHART YOU HAVE 214 OR 26% THAT WERE TRANSFERRED. IS THAT TRANSFERRED TO LOCAL SHELTERS OR IS THAT TRANSFERRED OUT OF THE CITY? >> BOTH. SO WE DO PARTNER WITH SOME LOCAL AGENCIES AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT WILL TRANSFER ANIMALS FROM US AND TAKE THEM TO THEIR LOCATION. >> Hernandez: DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOES OUT OF THE CITY? >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT OFFHAND, BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. >> Hernandez: ALL RIGHT. ON PAGE 27, YOU HAVE ASSERTIONS OF LENGTH OF STAY, TOTAL CARE OF 18 DAYS. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE YOU CAN HIDE THINGS THROUGH AVERAGES LIKE DO YOU HAVE -- WHAT IS YOUR LONGEST STAY FOR ANIMALS? >> I MEAN, IT VARIES. I DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT LONGEST RESIDENT, BUT SOMETIMES IT CAN BE AS MUCH AS 90 DAYS. >> Hernandez: OKAY. AND THEN SOME YOU HAVE AS SHORT AS A COUPLE OF DAYS BECAUSE THEY COME IN DISEASED AND -- >> OR THEY'RE ADOPTED. SO OUR STRAY HOLD IS THREE DAYS. IF THEY ARE NOT OWNED OR THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE OWNED. AND IT'S FIVE DAYS IF THEY APPEAR TO HAVE AN OWNER. SO ESPECIALLY THOSE ANIMALS THAT ARE HIGHLY PLACEABLE, AS SOON AS THEIR STRAY HOLDS ARE DONE, THEY'RE PULLED OUT. >> Hernandez: THAT'S WHY I SAY SOMETIMES THINGS CAN BE HIDDEN WITHIN AVERAGES. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY WHAT WE SAW PREVIOUSLY WAS THE LARGE DOGS WERE THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND SMALL DOGS WERE GONE PRETTY QUICKLY. OKAY. SO I THINK MAYBE THAT SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CAVEAT TO WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED HERE IN TERMS OF AVERAGES. >> WELL, I MEAN, IT IS BROKEN OUT, SIR, BY DOGS AND PUPPIES AND OUR PRINCIPAL INTAKE IS MEDIUM TO LARGE DOGS. >> Hernandez: I UNDERSTAND. I WENT THROUGH THIS AT THE RTA. THEY'RE LIKE OH, THREE DOLLARS PER PERSON PER TRIP. WELL, THEY DIDN'TING ACCOUNT FOR SOME OF THE ONES THAT COST US $40 PER PERSON PER TRIP. SO I WANTED TO JUST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM IS LARGE DOGS. YOU HAVE CALLS FOR SERVICE ON PAGE 28. YOU HAVE TOTAL ACTIVITIES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT? DID THEY FIND THE STRAYS? YOU GET A CALL FOR A STRAY AND THEY SHOW UP AND THEY DON'T FIND THE DOG. HOW MANY WERE ACTUALLY TAKEN IN? SO IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU -- IT ELSE YOU WHAT THE CALLS WERE, BUT DOESN'T TELL YOU THE INDICATION OF WHAT HAPPENED. SAME THING WITH THE CITATIONS. YOU HAVE CITATIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE CITATIONS WERE ACTUALLY ADJUDICATED IN THE POSITIVE OR SOMEBODY HAD TO PAY A FINE OR WERE THEY DISMISSED? THAT WOULD BE SOME GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE ON ANY OF THOSE TYPES THAT YOU HAVE OF THE INFORMATION BECAUSE WE SEE THIS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. YOU WRITE A CITATION AND NOTHING HAPPENS. I REMEMBER I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE RIGMAROLE WITH THE GOLF COURSE OVER IN KING'S CROSSING AND THAT WAS A NIGHTMARE BECAUSE IT -- THE CITATIONS WEREN'T BEING PROCESSED AND THEY WERE JUST SITTING THERE. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. SO JUST INFORMATIONWISE, YOU KNOW, DON'T JUST GIVE US THE CURSORY, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WROTE A CITATION. OKAY GREAT. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. ARE WE GETTING -- ARE PEOPLE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE WITH THOSE CITATIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCIL MEMBER PAXSON. >> Paxson: ON SLIDE 31 I HAD A QUICK QUESTION AND I DO WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK YOU LADIES. THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS WERE UP HERE WE ASKED FOR CERTAIN DETAILS AND I SEE A LOT OF THAT HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, PUTTING THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT ON 31 I WAS JUST CURIOUS, YOU HAVE TWO COLUMNS UNDER BOTH SECTIONS. YOU HAVE INITIAL CALL AND THEN TOTAL CALLS. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE TWO REPRESENT? >> SURE. SO INITIAL CALLS MEANS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CALL HAS COME IN TO THE DEPARTMENT. IT IS INITIATED. AND THEN TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, THERE ARE CALLS THAT REQUIRE MULTIPLE VISITS OR MULTIPLE STEPS TO COMPLETE, AND SO THAT IS OUR TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, MEANING THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN CALLS THAT WERE INITIATED EARLIER IN A PRIOR MONTH, BUT WE'RE STILL SERVICING THOSE CALLS. >> Paxson: OKAY. SO IS THIS LIKE A SERVICE CALL, LIKE A TICKET RATHER THAN AN ACTUAL PHONE CALL METRIC? >> ESSENTIALLY THE INCOMING CALLS IS THE INITIAL METRIC AND THEN THE CALLS -- WHAT THIS IS TRACKING FOR US IS WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE WORKING. AND SO IT'S GOING TO TELL US HOW MANY CALLS OR HOW MANY SITUATIONS THEY'VE ADDRESSED. AND IT COULD TAKE MULTIPLE VISITS TO ADDRESS IT, BUT OUR INITIAL CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE THE FIRST CALL THAT COMES IN FROM THE COMMUNITY. >> Paxson: OKAY. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ SAID, I'D REALLY LOVE TO SEE A CORRELATION, THIS IS HOW MANY WE GET, THIS IS HOW MANY WE RESOLVED, BUT HOW THEY CONNECT. BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU'VE GOT SOME REPRESENTED IN TOTAL CALLS DURING THIS MONTH, IT COULD BE FROM PREVIOUS MONTHS, IT COULD BE FROM PRIOR. SO IF WE GOT 3,000 CALLS IN THESE -- IN THIS QUARTER, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON 6,000, THOSE ARE FROM PREVIOUS QUARTERS. SO SOMETHING TO CORRELATE WE GOT A CALL AND WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE CONTACT AND RECOVER THE ISSUE OR WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FIND THE ANIMAL. SO WE COULD KIND OF GAUGE THAT PERCENTAGE IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> IT DOES. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT PERCENTAGE OF CALLS ARE CLOSED IN A PARTICULAR WAY, LIKE -- SO THIS CALL WAS CLOSED DUE TO UNABLE TO LOCATE THE ANIMAL. AND THIS CALL WAS CLOSED BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT IN FOR QUARANTINE. THAT KIND OF INFORMATION? >> Paxson: YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE SOME OF THE STUFF -- AND GOSH, WITH A 3,000 CALL LIST, THAT'S A LOT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LOT OF VOLUME. BUT THE STUFF THAT WE HEAR IS, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO CALL A NUMBER OF TIMES AND I'M NOT PICKING -- I'M NOT SAYING ONE'S RIGHT OR ONE'S WRONG OR WHATEVER, BUT IN THAT MUCH VOLUME IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE SOME CALLS THAT WE SIMPLY CAN'T GET TO. AND IF I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR FROM THE CONSTITUENTS, WE'RE TRYING TO CALL AND WE'RE NOT GETTING A CALL BACK OR WE'RE NOT GETTING THROUGH, AND THEN I TALK TO CITY STAFF AND IT'S LIKE, WE'RE CLOSING ALL THE CALLS OUT, I'M JUST TRYING TO BUILD THE PICTURE OF, HEY, WE GET LIKE 90% OF THEM RESOLVED. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE GAP. WE HAVE ANOTHER FIVE PERCENT GOAL. >> I SEE. >> Paxson: YOU MUST BE IN THAT 10%, WE'RE WORKING ON IT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JUST SO WE HAVE SOME DATA OR SOMETHING TO CLOSE THE GAP THERE. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, LADIES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: COUNCILMAN ROY. >> Roy: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE WE WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PELLETS AND IDENTIFYING THE DOGS AND THE LOCATIONS AND ALL THAT. DO YOU THINK -- WHAT PERCENTAGE, IS THERE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF DOGS OR CATS THAT ARE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY MAYBE THAT ARE DROPPED IN TO OUR COUNTY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE LARGEST SUPPORT? WHEN YOU COMPARE US TO LIVE OAK, JIM WELLS OR ONE OF THE OTHER AREAS, OUR OPERATION IS A LOT LARGER. DO YOU THINK WE GET ANY OF THAT? >> SO ANECDOTALLY I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I CAN SAY IF WE'RE TAKING ANIMALS FROM THE COMMUNITY THEY DO NEED TO BE A CORPUS CHRISTI RESIDENT. SO IF SOMEONE BRINGS IN AN ANIMAL THEY FOUND, WE ASK THAT THEY BE A RESIDENT OR THAT THE ANIMAL WAS FOUND WITHIN CORPUS CHRISTI, BUT WE CAN'T -- I COULDN'T SPEAK TO WHERE THAT ANIMAL CAME FROM BEFORE. >> Roy: I DIDN'T KNOW THROUGH THAT TRACKING MECHANISM CAN YOU FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE ANXIETY ARE FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU KNOW, I JUST -- IT'S KIND OF -- I HATE TO RELATE IT TO THIS, BUT WE'VE HEARD STORIES BEFORE ABOUT CITIES THAT WILL DRIVE THEIR BAD PEOPLE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IN BUS LOADS DOWN HERE AND SAY OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM IN OUR JAILS, WE'RE GOING TO DROP YOU OFF IN CORPUS CHRISTI. IT JUST MAKES ME WONDER IF YOU GUYS TRACK THAT FOR MY OWN KNOWLEDGE. >> WE HAVE NOT TO DATE. WE -- ANECDOTALLY, I COULD ONLY ANSWER ANECDOTALLY, I DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT HEY, THIS ANIMAL IS MICROCHIPPED THIS FAR AWAY. THEY'RE TYPICALLY MICROCHIPPED WITHIN CORPUS CHRISTI OR ROBSTOWN, THE SURROUNDING AREAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GET INFORMATION ON. >> Roy: DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Guajardo: LADIES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW THIS WAS A BIG PRESENTATION AND A HUGE EFFORT. IT'S UNFORTUNATE NOT EVERYBODY WAS HERE TO LISTEN TO IT. BUT WE CAN RELAY -- CAN Y'ALL SEND THAT? IT'S IN THE PACKET. IT WAS SENT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD RESEND IT. JUST SO WE'RE CERTAIN EVERYONE HAS IT. I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. I KNOW WE'RE MAKING STRIDES FORWARD. AND YOU KNOW -- AND I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING ON IT, THE RESCUE, THE FOSTER, RESCUE, FOSTER AND ADOPTION. >> AND ADOPTIONS, YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU'VE MADE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE THAT Y'ALL ARE IN CONTACT WITH CITYGATE WEEKLY, RIGHT? IS IT WEEKLY? YEAH. THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN PAXSON. >> Paxson: I HAD ONE MORE THING I TOTALLY FORGOT. LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE I HAD TO SQUEEZE IT IN MY LAST FEW SECONDS OF MY COMMENT. I HAD A QUESTION IF WE DID ANYTHING TO PARTNER WITH WHETHER THAT'S A&M KINGSVILLE,. >> Campos: CORPUS, I DON'T KNOW -- A&M CORPUS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PROGRAM, IF THERE ARE ANY CITIES WHERE THE VETERINARIAN PROGRAM STUDENTS COULD ISSUE BASICALLY FREE SPAY AND NEUTER TYPE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. IT WORKS FOR THEM, BENEFITS US, THAT KIND OF THING. IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD EVER EXPLORED. >> I BELIEVE THE CLOSEST ONE IS COLLEGE STATION. [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE DO HAVE PRE-VET STUDENTS TO DO VOLUNTEER FOR US. LIKE THEY COME IN AND HELP WITH THE ANIMALS AND DO SOCIALIZATION. >> Paxson: MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLORE IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND MODEL IT AFTER ANOTHER CITY TYPE THING. MAYBE. THAT WOULD BE JUST SOMETHING WE CAN ADD TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TRY TO HELP WITH. IF I CAN SAY THAT. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR YOUR HELP. >> YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Guajardo: OKAY. KATIE AND CYNTHIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AND MAYOR, I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE VICE-CHAIR OF THE ANIMAL CARE ADVISORY BOARD, MR. ROLAND DOMINGUEZ WAS HERE. HE'S BEEN HERE -- >> Mayor Guajardo: THANK YOU. >> HE'S BEEN HERE FOR MOST OF THE DAY. HE WAS HERE THE LAST TIME AS WELL WE HAD AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. SO MR. DOMINGUEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY AND BEING THE VICE-CHAIR OF OUR BOARD. >> Mayor Guajardo: WE APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMAN BARRERA. >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS, BUT DON'T HOLD IT AGAINST ROLAND. WE WENT TO MIDDLE SCHOOL TOGETHER. >> Mayor Guajardo: THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.