[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] all right good evening ladies and gentlemen it is now 5:31 p.m. welcome to the Planning and Zoning work session of Monday November 4th 2024 uh did anyone sign up to speak on any items listed on the work session agenda no one signed up please proceed right thank you uh is there any additional report on the city council meeting decisions of October 24th besides what was in our packet no okay and then report on the planning and development committee meeting of October 24th 2024 what is there on that I didn't I wasn't able to attend the meeting and I forgot to follow up on the link for the recording so I can do that this week okay great so then next time we can we can yeah oh yeah yeah okay thanks all right great um then review of the public hearing items okay all right uh you have uh two items on consent agenda for approval that's the MS from September 30th and October 7th and uh plat 2024 304p then you'll also have two items for consent agenda disapproval uh be happy to answer any questions on any of those items any questions on the consent items doesn't look like it okay right let's go on to the individual items first individual item is sing case 224-1 149 dzc good evening Commissioners Jason Gillis planner presenting zoning case 2024 rth for townhouse residential and the applicant is requesting a reone to SP2 R6 for generaliz Sight plan single family residential six to allow two single family structures on one lot staff recommends denial and we have seen no letters in support and one in opposition here is the aerial map showing the house and the second structure single family home in the back originally this house was built in 19 55 and has been modified over time while the second structure was built around 2015 without permits as it was intendedly wanting to be used as a garage but was later converted into a full living space Here's the future land use map here's the surrounding zoning map showing the rth zoning District it was Zone rth around 1974 and as seen on the aerial it is currently used for single family as all of these Lots currently are here's the notification map protest analysis map and then here is the site plan so just to get some background for the structure and how it kind of came about so around in 2015 work was started for the rear unit to be a garage originally the owners were required to remove the second floor as it had a loft leaving an unfinished attic space as the height of this structure is 19 ft but the owners ended up modifying it and never contacted the city for a final inspection to that change and nor did they contact the city when they turned it to a single family home it was around February 28 2024 when code enforcement spotted the structure and noticed the violation that they had converted the rear detached garage into an additional dwelling unit and that is when after seeing the change they gave the violation for the 864 ft structure that has three bedrooms one bathroom in a kitchen and living room space and I seen on the site plan due to this being a single family lot and they're asking for single family zoning it does not allow for two single family buildings on one platted lot so they're asking for a variance for that and then also they're asking needing a parking variant as the original home does allow for it to only have one par parking space but since this is a new structure they need a two-car garage and two off street parking spaces requiring five spaces and the new structure even though they are able to provide five total off street parking spaces they're not able to provide a garage based on the requirements and here's the floor plan showing that what the first room would be designated as the bedroom a second room third is the bathroom and then being office space and the kitchen here's the subject property the subject property showing the rear structure here's the second structure that was originally a garage and then converted into the single family here's the back of it the [Music] inside and then here's west of sub subject property south of subject property north of subject property and staffs from traffic fire water and inspections have reviewed this case and water did make the comment for the second unit and must connect to the main Home Services if this does get approved and have to go through permitting but based on the configuration and and not meeting the r six requirements staff cannot support staff does recommend denial for the second dwelling unit and sees no undu hardship for the parking and I'll be happy to answer any questions for this any questions on this item all right looks like keep going thanks so for the next case if it looks familiar this was the zoning case that got postponed from last pnz meeting so this is zoning case 20242 39- zc at 3 310 West Third Street currently Zone R hcd NMU for Heritage Crossing neighborhood Muse and they're wanting to reone to sp1 hcd NMU for detailed side plan Heritage crossy neighborhood mcus with a variance to allow three residential units on one lot and a variance to parking to the side of the house staff does recommend um approval and we have seen no and no NSR hardship for the variance of the parking location we have seen no letters in support and three in opposition here is the aerial map showing the property which is a which is the existing single family home and the detached building in the back here's the future land use map the surrounding zoning map notification map the probe test analysis map and then here's the subject property more up close AG so you can see the currently the single family home and then the single family home in the back and then here is the new site plan showing based on last time it showed that they were having the parking in the alley they did switch it based on pz's comments to have it on the side and showing the new construction which would create this into a duplex and because of hcd multiple units is allowed but since this is not one unit looking as like a single family home they are needing a variance for it to be one single family structure plus a duplex structure and through units not all being attached and also an hcd parking is required to either be through the alley going to the rear of the property um or leading to the back through a driveway and since this is not doing that they are needing a variance to allow the parking in the side but they are not needing a parking variance as is in the in the last um subm for the last pnz they were needing our parking variance here's the subject property subject property rear inside and then you can kind of see here where this is where the driveway and the new parking would be on this side of the property west of subject property north of subject property east of subject property and here is the site plan again and staff um can support this case and we have seen no um traffic water and fire have reviewed this and have no comments on this and I'll be happy to answer any question for this one question yeah I got one question I noticed when it was presented to us the last time that was brought forth um they said they were going to use it for employees at the salon Etc but the letter of intent says it's going to be used for long-term rent property M um yeah for my understanding the long-term intent is to be able to rent it out cuz I this existed apartment is being rented out and currently and that would be what the next the second unit would be used as well but unless the owner knows something if there's something else they're more looking for um any additional in in my opinion and this is just my opinion this is just another way to do an Adu um and we have been turning people down that do have hardships want to move their grandmothers elderly parents Etc into uh another uh dwelling unit on their property and we have said no about that but yet we're considering letting people build multiple houses on one property I had a question uh one of the comments from one of the nearby residents who protested pointed out you know this is in the Heritage District um and they had some seem to raise a question about what what the purpose of that title inherit district is intended to convey um is it intended to convey that it will be maintaining the sort of single family U more small town sort of look of that area uh but that seemed to be conflicting with what I understood to be the Zoning for this property that they they are able to put duplexes you know multiple I forget how many they can put in all together um about four units okay I did remember correctly four units they could tear down that main house and turn this into four units all just as long as they're connected together which certainly would not maintain a sort of small town kind of feel to it so I wondered if you could comment on on that issue just to clarify for us what the purpose of that that designation is so the Heritage form based code the Heritage District um so Heritage Crossing district is the actual official term of it is um the area not surrounding the uh rail station but just kind of starting through rail station going south there are three subdistricts in the Heritage District you got the transit mix use which is along the rail station near you know near the dart area near the uh the clock tower you get into the commercial mix use which is along Irving Boulevard and Second Street and then the rest of it is a neighborhood mixed use which is primarily neighborhood and you know some small office is some small commercial not any retail though so the intention of the Heritage district is it's a mixed use district is to uh that the the code was written to help bring energy into the downtown area you know we just finished the Reconstruction of iring Boulevard to make it more walkable so the the goal is to to revitalize the Heritage area so it's not particularly to I mean we want to keep that small town feel we want to keep the the the culture of the Heritage District but we also want to make sure that we have some opportunity down there of people to make investments to to bring some um you know Rejuvenation to the area okay thank you any other questions if this was tore down and let's say they did build a 4un um house there duplex town home whatever they would have to meet the criteria of the building ordinances within the Heritage district and follow that protocol correct yes yeah Heritage has its own set of uses standard setbacks they'd follow all of those but based upon this plan all they have to meet is what's there now and not meet that correct right that's what the variance is for and and this by requesting the variance they're keeping the existing home so that's why we saw that as a plus we have the number number of units they could have allowed by right but we're not losing that existing home that has been in place um so it's kind of a you know it's a it's a good situation because we aren't completely starting from a demo and uh you know building a little bit differently and the new construction still other than that it's not connected to the main house it's otherwise complying with the the building code requirements for the Heritage District it will have to it will have to okay so that's that's the only those are the two variances that we're talking about one is that it'll be the main house separated from the then two units they are currently separated from the one unit and then that the parking essentially that the driveway to the parking is coming from Third Street rather than coming from an Alleyway or in the back well the requirement is the parking be in the rear and so this parking is on the side mhm okay so if they were going to comply with the parking requirement they would have to put it down where the basically where the construction is that's correct yeah if you think about it as a what a Triplex or a fourplex would be would be a single unit and then the park would be in the back and that's just really not possible here okay so it's not that the driveway is coming off of third or it's just where the parking spots are correct correct Y correct any other questions all right go on to the next one all right good evening Haley Ric planner uh I'm going to presenting the 2024 298 zc case uh this is located at 1916 Meadow Glenn they're wan to change their zoning from the single family residential 6 to a generalized site plan uh allow a carport within the front yard setback um staff finding after review that there's no one do hardship uh for public comment there has been one letter in support and not in opposition this is the aerial of the property so a corner lot and a residential suburb the future land use is the traditional neighborhood and then you can see it's surrounded by R six this is the notification map so all the property owners that were notified and then the site plan so they're wanting to do a 20 X20 carport um so this would create a 20ft variance so their front yard setback would go from the 30 ft to 10 ft um with the peak elevation of being 12 um and then this is surrounding carports that are in the neighborhood um we have one that was uh built right next door um and there's a few straight over on Meadowdale and then one on Pearl so this is the subject property the side of the subject property the West so that's the neighbor that has the carport already existing east of subject property and then north of the subject property um and I'm open to any comments or questions that other carport the one next door when was it built I believe it was 1999 let's see 1993 so it's old but it was done with a permit it was done with the permit okay all right any other questions no all right thank you cool and I'm be doing this next one so the 2024 351 zc located at 525 East Pioneer Drive um they're will to go from single family residential 6 to a generalized site plan um with a variance to the minimum lot width and minimum lot area for a transitional lot after review staff finding has found no undue hardship um for public comment there's been one in support and none in opposition so this is kind of the area of or it is the area of the property um future land use traditional neighborhood and then you can kind of see the zoning most of it is R six um you do have ml20 just south of them so they're kind of neighbors across the street um and then you kind of have CC going further west this is the property owners that were notified and then this is kind of a visual of what we did for the calculations so the the numers in blue are blocked in blue um that is the lot area so after taking the lot area from all those averaging it that's where you get that 16375 square ft um if you get to the 80% which is the minimum that they would have to do it'd be the 13,113 sare ft and then kind of same with the orange blocks it's a lot width so we took that average end up being 99 ft um both the 80% it' be the minim 79 and so for their site plan I just want to that slide you had just before that was great I really like all the numbers on that that's very helpful for being able to see the the comparative sizes perfect yeah just want to mention that in case I forget okay yeah I believe Kim put that together so yeah it was done really nicely um and so yeah this is the site plan so um what they're proposing is going to be bigger than what the r six standard would be but it is smaller than what is required by that transitional lot the LW compatibility so for the lot WID instead of the 79 um that required they're requesting 65 and then for the lot area instead of that 13,103 ft they're wanting to do the 12,025 square ft so this is the subject property this is the East so their neighbor uh west of subject so their other neighbor and then this is kind of the ml 20 I was talking about that's across the street and then open to any comments or questions any questions you know this property here is the one on the back lwood street runs parallel with PIR we just approved one at the last meeting and Council approved it to dropped the lot size down to 51 52 ft I think it was I I really don't see an issue with the 65 dividing it up I'm very familiar with this lot I do have major concern though with the Ingress and degress of these Lots due to the fact that the business across the street is Owens Corning and between Joffrey and Nursery but on two days a week you can't get you're going into oncoming traffic and so the Ingress and degress is where my concern is the width of the lot I'm okay with personally but the Ingress and degress because cars are going into oncoming traffic there consistently and it's been something that's been brought up numerous times to the city the police department Etc um I just don't know about having cars backing out like that I think it's going to be a real big Hazard the day I walked or drove down through there there were 18 tractor Trail trailers lined up on that road coming in or going out of that covering up every one of those houses what does traffic have to say about it ow Morning has been there for for quite some time it is an issue um I mean you're going to have some traffic from from the old ml20 that doesn't really meet today's standards um so really this just comes down to the land use decision and what you think I mean residential is a low traffic impact however there are conflicts on the roadway well we we have had problems with it and they went out and put up no parking no stopping no standing signs up but nothing's never enforced through there with traffic or with the local police yeah we we can put the signs up but it is the police department that is the enforcement part of the signs but they they're not going to be able I think the challenge is them trying to back out and so they'd have to have some kind of way to turn around in front of that property to be able to come out forward I think if you had some kind of the problem is is that well 65 ft I think by by Building Inspections you can take and do a curv driveway um I think that would be safer if the cars could go head out instead of back out because it's it's very dangerous there even when you're driving down Pioneer you still have to go on oncoming traffic the way it is right now and if you have an 18-wheeler blocking you and you're pulling out you're LEL to get hit so I I think um like I said I don't have an issue with the width of the Lots it's just my concern is the safety of who bosom houses backing out onto that road any other questions no all right we go to the next one so the next case that I am presenting is comprensive plan Amendment 2024 the location is 2131 East Irving Boulevard and 251 East Shady Grove Road the comprehensive plan calls for traditional neighborhood and the applicant is requesting for change it be changed to manufacturing warehouse staff does recommend denial and we have seen no letters in support and three in opposition here is the aerial map showing the two lots which is a 0.4 Acre Site with a single family home on the Northern lot and vacant on the southern lot currently the future land use does call for traditional neighborhood and as you can see in the future land use it is predominantly traditional neighborhood to the west and then predominately Regional commercial to the East and to the South here's the notification map the subject property North the subject property east of subject property west of subject property and South and then I want to go back to this so Zoning for this site was is in 1997 was sp1 ml 20 for a detailed site plan for detail site plan for light industrial 20 allowing both single family residential and light industrial uses and I'll be able to get into that into the zoning case but as you see in the surrounding um it is predominantly a neighbor traditional neighborhood and Commercial area and based on the requirements from the future land use that be physical appropriateness adjacent residential and non- negative traffic impacts and appropriate transition staff does not believe this meets um criteria e regarding appropriate transition between non-residential and residential uses as this would be a complete change to the Future Landers being manufacturing wareh warehouse breaking the traditional neighborhood and Regional commercial as well as based on staff analysis we do believe that manuf ufacturing use is a way more intense um future land use to what it's surrounded by and this could negatively impact this approval could create pressure for further Warehouse development um in the future due to this change and I'll be happy to answer any questions on this or I can go to the zoning case once you go onto the zoning case we can ask questions all together at once so for the zoning case it's 2024 352 dzc at 2131 East Irving Boulevard and 2501 East Shady Grove currently the zoning is sp1 ml20 light detailed site plan light industrial 20 in single family attach residential uses and then applicant is wanting to change it to CW for commercial warehouse staff recommends Nile and we see no letters in support and three in opposition so here's the aerial map again showing the single family home and the vacan lot here's the future land use and here's the zoning and I want to go in a little bit of history about the zoning to understand how it kind of got here so this property was annexed around 1951 which it had a local business zoning that was in the surrounding area and then the industrial zoning came in around 1974 and 1987 and during that time in 1987 they allowed for the M mo20 light industrial use but also including single family uses and as you can see with this site plan it shows here but this was a site plan approved in 1987 residential or commercial use residential or commercial use on either lot and based on this this there was conditions including no parking in the rear no requirements for adjacent commercial properties to provide screening since it did have a light industrial and single family detailed site blam and the applicant did did want to do something different than what was approved by the site plan and that's why you're seeing the case today in the resoning to Commercial Warehouse and also based on the the adjacent properties to the West as well these are all zoned R six this property is zoned ml20 and then these properties to the East are also um ml20 so it is to the east more of a light industrial area but everything to the West is residential and this property even though it's Zone m mo20 is a residential property and really the only commercial is east and south to the property everything West and North is residential with the church on the corner here's the subject property as you can see here east of the subject property so that residential property west of the subject property the other residential property and and then North and then here's South showing some of the industrial from That's from the vacant lot and then based on the comprehensive plan Amendment staff cannot support this case as from going from n traditional neighborhood to manufacturing warehouse we do not feel like it is compatible with the surrounding area and I'll be happy to answer any questions on this any questions I have a question for staff um also I know you wasn't around in 1987 and I was still you're very young man um but based upon what you know ml20 uses were pretty common go-to zoning back in the day weren't they yeah yeah they they were this was actually when it was brought in it it was actually originally Zone G local business under the old 209 zoning or the old 209 zoning ordinance and then in 1966 it was changed to ml20 and then uh the the current site plan was approved basically to the the 1974 basically recodified the existing ml20 for some reason and then the current site plan was approved they in the case they were actually originally asking for single family on it there was no house the the house that had been there was had been destroyed had been had been uh demolished and they were going to move a new house onto the property and pnz at the time balked at the idea of having single family zoning there uh so they came up with the idea of doing ml20 and single family and basically limiting where the ml20 could go would be in the footprints of those two areas but back in the back in the day that was very common to go to ml20 on a lot of the commercial properties and as they're changing up we're rezoning them and putting them in the proper categories right it was I want to say it was common it wasn't uncommon was put it that way so that's to say that it was ml20 isn't an indication that that was really the ultimate goal for the area it was just that was a convenient way to label it at the time option yeah it was when they were converting the air originally from the 209 to the 1144 Zone the from the old zoning ordinance to the quotequote new zoning ordinance they transitioned the G zoning which was local business to ml20 and that's where it became quotequote industrial from that point forward and ml20 back in the day was a very flexible zoning it allowed for a lot you could do a bunch of different things with it correct well I mean it's it's pretty much what it is now I mean what was there before was a house and and then the house was at some point demolished and then they wanted to put a new house on and that's where they end up having to go through a zone change because the ml20 the residential was legal non-conforming once they put that on 1966 okay and on the house to or the property H to the West um I just drove through there and it looked vacant and like they were doing some type of work ER what's do you'll know what's going to be happening with that property believe you're talking about this proper right here yes actually the dumpster is right there on the front right now so um and are they able to convert that property as if it's an ml20 right now can they put in the a warehouse or or mhm so they are they can they could if they wanted to yeah so so right now do you all know if that's going to be the intention of what they're trying to do there we don't know we can I don't know wait if you're able to pull up any permits um probably not right now maybe later um but it looks like there mean if they were going to re redevelop it into industrial the the house probably wouldn't be there anymore so they're probably just remodeling the house for residential and it looked like some other houses on that street had been remodeled or redone it looked like people had really put some investment into that area in their residences now um I'm not sure cuz they really clear out the back as well the back um I mean you can see the dirt that has been moved I mean looks like they're going to try to build something I'm not sure if actually they're going to keep the house um but on on this on the subject property are they able to put a warehouse on the south lot so they would have to adhere to the detailed site plan so technically yes they can put on the south lot but it would just have to be based on what the detailed site plan said um this layout and how that would be but yes but they are they are wanting to replat the property and do one one hair one wear house on the lot so they don't want to keep it two separate lots and what about the house to the east so that [Music] one like yeah this current house um yeah that they would be able to change it to some to a different to the ml20 if that was what they to a light industrial use if that was something they wanted to do so they they would have to go through the um depending on what they want to do I mean it looked like they have a lot of cars on the back I don't know store or just want I stop by there I don't know if that's I don't know if that's actually residential commercial I actually don't know yeah that's a good question yeah it could be it looks most likely could be commercial but it could be residential as well and also I think they're proposing according to their letter I think they read a letter somewhere their erress or an AR to be from the shitty Grove I was just there I mean I don't think that's the best part to have it honestly I mean the the traffic was coming fast down the curve I I have trouble sparking over there so but at the same time I mean by looking at this I mean their neighbors can put a warehouse if they wanted to pretty much that's what I'm understanding right now yeah so to tell them no I don't I mean I I believe I don't like this in warehouses industrial without buffer zone or anything but this is so I don't know unique it was those are my thoughts on this mhm um Jas G1 go to the prop show the property to the West more time yeah we uh looks like there are some active permits uh very very recent permits that were pulled uh like last week uh for uh uh sewer M replacement uh roof replacement and a couple other things so that's what they're doing on the property on that on that property any building permits yeah permits for sewer Main replacement and re roof but meaning like to to build a new structure no but they're replacing apparently like 200 feet of sewer M so thank you for looking into that any other questions no great let's go on to the next one so the next zoning Cas is 2024 356 CC at 1900 Marketplace Boulevard Suite 110 is currently Zone SP2 CC for generalized site plan Community commercial and the applicant is resoning to sp1 RAB detailed site plan restaurant with theant accessory use the sell of alcohol beverages for arm prise consumption staff does recommend approval and we have seen no letters in support or an opposition here is the AAL map showing the suite in red being a 7,525 s square foot lease space in the hunter Plaza shopping center um currently this Suite is unoccupied and the proposed tenant is going to be mandira and Masala bar and restaurant with the K KSA foods and retail space currently here's the future land use map the surrounding zoning map and as you can see there's a couple sp1 RBS in the area the proposed notification boundary and then here is the site plan showing the suite again as in the definition of restaurants is defined as a public space primarily serving food with permanent seating and kitchen facilities which they plan on having and the establishment for sp1 rebs is to have a minimum of 40% of sales from food or non-alcoholic beverages the applicant States they were able to meet those requirements and then here's the subject property where the suite intends on being east of subject property one of the restaurants in the area west of the subject property and then the site plan um proposed establish it meet all the alcohol distances from just religious facilities schools hospitals and residents and since the development is consistent with the comprehensive plan and requires no variances staff can support this request and I'll happy to answer any questions for this zoning case just just one question I that's what I had question cuz of that school that's on the corner there what's the distance there they did show they gave me a distance map and it was greater than the 300 ft s since it has to go from door to door based on the road but I I don't remember the exact feet but it did meet the requirement okay thank you question a I guess this just more of a curiosity so let's say this tenant moves out in 10 years from now does a new tenant have to apply for a new permit or that stays yep that stays at sp1 RB so as long as a restaurant goes in there another restaurant can go in as long as they're adhering to the sp1 RB requirements thank you um also is there still there uh was there a liquor store there so yeah there's a liquor store next to it that the retail store that currently that just opened recently that's next to it thank you any other questions all right on the next one so the next zoning case I have is zoning case 2024 362c at 5000 West John Carpenter Freeway the current zoning is sp1 CP for detailed site plan commercial park and the applicant is wanting to rezone the sp1 CP detailed site plan commercial park and hotel uses with variances staff does recommend approval and we see no letters in support in opposition here is the area map and to give some history on this site is a 1.90 acre site that was previously um developed as a hotel um the hotel caught fire back in 2022 and was demolished um but based on this hotel was built originally in 1997 and that was before a lot of even the first hotel development standards in 1999 and the current ones today but and if the applicant wanted to stick to that hotel they could build it exactly as it was before since it did get burned down but they are wanting to do a new design with a new new brand introduction and new layout here's the future land use map surrounding zoning map notification map and then here was the adopted site plan in 1997 and then here is the new proposed site plan and they're proposing a four story 121 room live smart Studios by Hilton extended stay hotel and just wanted to go over some of the variances so this column is what was approved originally in 1997 this is our current code and this is what they're currently providing so a minimum they had 101 rooms in the original hotel and now they're providing 121 and that's about a 79 room difference from the current standards but it is an increase from their previous site plan and this applicant did stay a big reason for the variances is due to the original Lots limit expansion and the Hilton brand new change for not including restaurants or meeting spaces so that's a big reason for the minimum size of meeting space not meeting the current code recreational facilities Lounge area and then they also need a couple variances from commercial par due to lot coverage and commercial park does have a restriction of three stories and they're wanting to do four stories and then the parking setback from State Highway 140 114 here's the subject property Northwest of subject property southeast of subject property and then staff can support this request as it does align with the modernized hotel market and since this is not an additional hotel but just replacing a previous Hotel um staff does not see does see this as being a fine replacement and I'll be happy to answer any questions for this questions I have a question when a building is tore down what makes this lot unique where they do not have to follow the current codes UDC codes as far as the 200 units we've had a lot of people bring for worth different hotels motels Etc and they did not meet the 200 room requirement um and ultimately did not pass but what makes this lot here unique where they can just rebuild what they had without following the current codes so it's because of the detailed site plan that was approved in 1997 so when something gets burned down it says it in our legal non-conform since this is a detailed site plan um that it has to adhere back to exactly how it was so if since this got burned down they could build it exactly how it was before and not have to adhere to the requirements because of the detailed site plan and they weren't under the current codes um but they are wanting to do something different so that's why you're seeing it today so they could do just a 100 rooms then mhm yeah yeah every everything in this first column they could do right now and wouldn't have to come through pnz or Council any other questions is there any other hotel in the City of Irving that has zero as a a the meeting space meeting space a and zero Lounge area and um I think he had another one that noport yeah noport koser is there any other Hotel yeah we we can't think of any off the top of our head this one's a little different they intend for it to be more of an Extended Stay we were looking on the website so it's it's a new um kind of a model type for Hilton so um kind of I think I saw the word micro Apartments but they intend for it to be longer than a normal Hotel so I think that's why they took out those other amenities because it's a little bit of a different product do they have a kitchen yes sorry this is curiosity again what caus a fire on the last Hotel I don't Derek do you know what caused the fire on the hotel I can't remember I know why bur main sprinkler systemed spre I remember exactly out of curiosity from a city level there's no like variance for having that required meeting space or the lounge area there is there is yeah that's what the the middle column is so that's what two years ago three years ago city council went through a process of kind of rethinking the hotel standards right and so the what you see in the middle are the standards that um we follow from a city level from a city yes so if if if you can meet all the standards the current H sale standards um you still have to go through the SP process just to complete and and let you know everybody know what's going on um typically people do request variances when they're going through that SP process but there are minimum standards okay thank you but this piece of property I'm guessing you probably couldn't meet the current requirements if you're going to put a hotel in that space you have to go it's just to you have to go up but it can't go up over three stories without a variance so in terms of strict compliance with current UDC it's either what they had in 97 something with variances or not a hotel and that's right by the airport so it's not going to be able to yeah yeah behind it is all UPS FedEx and all of that y Jason I have two questions is there no um difference in what parking number of parking spaces that they wanted yeah they're um no they're able to meet the parking requirements from from the original comfort in requirements yes cuz they're they're increasing I don't know the exact number of difference but they are increased the amount of parking to be able to meet the 120 rooms okay I'm sorry I don't recall seeing this plan in our notes but um are there is this more like I hate to say motel but like a travel place where there's you can park outside your room and then come in since there's no Port casare you know central location for them to sort of unload and protect their property while they're moving into the hotel for an Extended Stay or can I don't believe so looking at their website right now for the for the Liv part uh think more like a Staybridge Suites kind of thing from the outside so it's internal C uh quds um they have uh they they call them apartment style uh Studios is what they call them with a fulls siiz the kitchen to answer your question from earlier fulls siiz refriger dishwasher two burer stove top microwave sink and pots and pans that's quoting from their website yeah I noticed on their notes they said medical Suites and I'm like well where would they be going other than the proton Center um which conceivably would be a long-term medical stay and you know just so everybody knows if you're staying in a hotel suite for more than 30 days there's no hotel tax paid so you know I'm not sure what else could go on this land it's a small piece of land surrounded by other hotels um and it's a step up from the old Comfort end so it's not a bad it's not a bad proposal just just recognize that Extended Stay there's no hotel tax that comes into the city as a result of uh long-term [Music] stays it's possible being close to the hotel they wouldn't um be staying long and so therefore there would be um hotel tax paid I should also have they have a grab and go breakfast area and thing like you would typically see in a hotel so any other questions all right well let's go on to the next one good evening Commissioners Gina castanza Grant with the planning department the next case is 2024 364-2713 way and State Highway 183 overlay to SP2 f Wy freeway um and State Highway 183 overlay they are requesting variances to um both the landscape and site design requirements of the 183 overlay district and also uh to the minimum parking requirements of um the off- street parking uh requirements in the unified development code the staff recommendation is approval of the proposed resoning um to freeway um however finding of no unnecessary hardship that was evident for the proposed variances um public comment forms we uh did not receive any in support or in opposition and this is an aerial of the subject property if you'll just kind of keep in mind there are three uh existing buildings in that large parking area on the West Side uh you'll see how that will change uh when we get to the proposed site plan this is the notification map the surrounding zoning map you can see there is a large parcel of mfw to the east PUD six to the north and kind of a mixed bag of uh commercial and light industrial to the South the future land use plan does designate this area for industrial uses so the request is in conformance with the future land use map and this is the proposed site plan um in this particular Slide the the orientation of the property is is a little flipped um 183 would be to the right and because this is not a detailed site plan it's a generalized site plan there are no building footprints that are uh shown on the plan they are just listing uh at the top of the page um the uh table request ing the various uh variances that they are asking for um this is a view of the site plan that is uh oriented where uh 183 is to the north and I'm just going to bring this up because the next case is related to this one um the applicant for this also owns the property to the north however that property is uh located within PUD 6 so it has a completely different uh zoning category and um that is undergoing a separate request that we will hear next um to change the zoning to the most similar uh similar category that uh will allow them to develop all 50 acres as a whole uh the the property we're considering now that's on the south has about 37 acres and there are an additional 13 acres in that parcel to the north that lie within uh PUD six this is their illustrative site plan um so it's not anything that they can be tied to because it's it's a generalized plan but they did want to give you all an idea of how the uh the buildings would be laid out and proposed uh right now as you remember uh in the first slide there are three existing buildings um to our know the site has been vacant since 2020 it was uh the former site of an excella technology facility it was a warehouse warehousing with office and then before that a company called Bank Tech so um the property has been vacant for quite a number of years and the applicant proposes to develop five new buildings uh four of which will be on the southern uh 37 AC tract and then one that will be on the Northern tract that's within PUD six these are the uh variances that the applicant is requesting two of those are from the requirements within the 183 overlay that um district has a requirement that for any parking lots with more than 100 spaces uh that the applicant is to include internal pedestrian walkways that connect the main entrance uh with the public sidewalks surrounding the site uh the applicant is requesting instead to only provide sidewalks from the entrance of the principal building to the Ada parking spaces within the lot uh the second variance uh from the 183 overlay District standards is regarding uh the requirement for a minimum of 50% of the total required trees uh to be located within the interior of the of the parking lot and not distributed around the perimeter uh they did request that 100% of the trees uh be able to be installed on the perimeter instead of throughout the parking lot uh regarding off street parking requirements they uh have requested a variance from our manufacturing and Warehouse parking standard which is one space per 1,000 ft of floor area to 1 one space per 2,000 ft of floor area so 50% fewer parking spaces and these uh this is looking at the subject property from Maryland Drive this is looking at the subject property from East grower and this is uh looking to the west from grow Waller and to the east on grower and the staff uh does take the position that since the requested zoning is consistent with the comprehensive plan and uh the use uh allowed uh one of the uses and the use is allowed in the existing mfw District by right staff does report uh support the resoning request to freeway um staff does not find evidence of a hardship um for the requested variance therefore uh we are not supporting those and I am happy to take any questions or comments you have can you go back to that chart with the variances they're requesting oh yeah that one uh so which end of the building the first one they're wanting to not have a connection to the sidewalk to the to the road to the public sidewalk which side of this facility is going to be the entrance I'm not positive but hopefully they can uh answer that for you I I would imagine that each building would have its own entrance but I think the one that's on uh 183 is the one that would house uh the main office space while the the other buildings may be more Warehouse related but I'm honestly not positive okay and then on the questions on the other two variances they were requesting um did they give any particular reason on the other two why they felt it was necessary to have the trees on the perimeter or why they didn't think they needed as much parking yeah we had originally um included that in the staff report from their uh letter of intent which was not very detailed it it was more like we are just asking for these variances however I did have a lengthy phone call with the applicants last week um after they saw the staff recommendation and they did provide a lot more detail to me that I think they will convey to you tonight in their presentation as to why those variances are indeed Justified okay all right great thank you well they why they feel that they are Justified any other questions on some of the variants the way the buildings lay out from what I'm seeing um is this going to create a another issue with fire and the fire hydrons and all that stuff are they putting all that inside the perimeter in order to since it's not a detailed site plan um we are not addressing any of that at this point but fire did have um informational comments just related to the zoning case that they would be required to meet all fire codes at the time of building permit Andor platting so the building layout could change or be moved or twist around this is just a concept correct any other question questions yeah is that um to the north east um is that an retention Pawn A detention Pawn uh what is they are anticipating having to have on-site detention okay of course all that would have to be worked out when they subdivide the property when they replat um all excuse me all of that would be taken care of during the Civil Engineering review okay thank you any other questions no all right we'll move on to the next one great thank you uh 224-3653 freway uses and also to allow variances uh to the requirements uh listed in appendix B related to PUD six um those are related to building placement building design and site design uh and as well as a variance uh the same variance to the minimum parking requirements for Industrial Development uh the staff recommendation is for approval of the proposed use and denial of the proposed variances uh none no comments were received in support or in opposition uh I do also want to point out that since this is a development plan um the final action rests with pnz and this will not go forward to uh city council so this is the aerial of uh the track we discussed uh previously that's to the north it is vacant but has been under uh the same ownership um as the track to the South for for many years um this is again the future land use map and the request is in conformance with it this is the surrounding zoning map the notification boundary and the development plan um in uh as many of you may be familiar with uh in any of the puds that we have uh the planned unit developments a uh the way to establish the base zoning district is through a development plan so in PUD 6 in particular uh they just divide the land uses by tract tracks a b c and d and when you look at the Pud six requirements for those specific tracks it then uh specifies further zoning categories that would be appropriate uh for those particular um subtracts so in in this particular um case the property is located in subtract C and that that tract does recommend freeway as well as uh ml20 and ml 20a as some of the uh proposed uses that would be compatible and again this is the site planner visual that shows uh the parcel in relation to uh the property to the South and again the overall illustrative site plan and the summary of ordinance are of variances for this particular request um regarding the variances under PUD six they are requesting uh a variance to the requirement for uh a minimum of 50 ft of the primary Street Frontage for any development uh to have buildings within 60 ft of that front property line with that principal entrance located on that Frontage they are requesting instead um that the the building Frontage can be within 150 ft of the property line um another variance from PUD six requirements is the maximum one row of parking spaces in front of a building they are requesting at least two row of parking spaces be permitted uh another variance from PUD six is designated pedestrian accessways connecting the public sidewalks uh to the primary building entrance so that's very similar to the one for the 183 overlay um and again they are asking for no public connection uh to the public sidewalks that are adjacent to the site um and again regarding uh minimum parking requirements they are requesting one space per 2,000 ft of floor area rather than one space for 100 1,000 ft to floor area so 50% reduction this is looking at the subject property from the intersection of Maryland Drive and East John Carpenter Freeway and this is looking west of the subject property this is looking at the subject property from uh the access road this is looking north of the subject property and uh also again looking at the subject property from grower and East John Carpenter Freeway this is looking East and back to the site plan um again the staff uh is recommending uh approval of the development plan to establish freeway zoning it is consistent with the comprehensive plan and also an allowed use uh within the sub subtract C of Pudi uh we do not find that uh that we can recommend approval of the variances to the Pud six standards and uh there was no evidence that the building uh must be further set back from the right of way uh that's necessary for the two rows of parking um staff also does not support the variance to reduce the parking count since the site is large and can physically accommodate the required parking and I'm happy to take any questions you might have any questions on this part of it is this being built by an user that they are asking for the parking because they know this is what they're going to be needing and using or this is just a developer building this trying to find tenants for the property I am not sure if they have a specific user in mind um but you can absolutely ask them during the public hearing they may be able to shed some light on that any other questions no great thank you I think that's our last of the public hearing items uh next on our agenda is report from Commissioners on the APA Texas PA conference that just happened up in Allen who who was able to attend this time all right any any uh any anything to convey that you got from any of the talks you went to I will um I think the the two highlights that I I um saw I attended one of the meetings from um Houston where they were revitalizing their Main Street uh which I thought was was very interesting because they are also going through the process of trying to balance the small businesses that's on their Main Street as well as with the construction so um it made me think a lot about out here on Urban Boulevard when we had all the construction going on so uh that one was very interesting and then also um Rockwell is going under some development and trying to develop a lot of their open areas um and also working on the comprehensive plan and so they did a um a a briefing there one of the things that they also are looking at is building some of the smaller homes those small single family homes that a lot of developers are talking about so those were the the two conferences I was able to attend yeah I attended on Thursday um I did do a mobile tour of one of the um developments in Frisco it was really unique there was different types of um housing everything from single family to um multif family to it it was very very interesting um I think that they definitely um put a lot of thought into it but it did make me appreciate the fire department a lot more because they've been having some issues with the their narrower streets so um but it was very unique just to see so many different different types of housing Al together um so that was very I think Forward Thinking um in some sense so that was really interesting um some of the sessions I attended were um I attended one I think we were in it together with like the Amarillo case study and then also the Fort Worth case study um in regards to just like the different zoning approach that they were uh going through I guess and um I think for Amarillo what I really appreciated it was I really took the community's um input very seriously and they made a big effort to get their like uh Community connectors right and so I think that's something that we could also do I think as a city too is just to get more Community input but going out into the community um to make sure that people are aware you know the different type of develop development that could be going on um and if that's something that they want in their immediate area so I did I did like that part to piggy back off of uh Priscilla they also had the as far as the community involvement they went as far as getting the community engaged with okay here's our comprehensive plan or one that we're working on where would be your ideal areas for this and it was a whole um workshop for them and then they were like whoa I didn't realize how fun that this would actually be or what all goes into the planning and now I can see the vision that Amarillo is wanting to set forth yeah I thought that I went to a couple of the seminars where it was with uh Denton and how they are wanting to expand their music scene out there and get um some variances in place as far as like having it be multi-use um zoning residential and then the commercial and how uh retail space and how well if they were going to continue having the live music what type of variances or things in place to get that zone so I thought that was pretty interesting as far as um their music scene Austin was also in that same workshop and uh they went as far as like saying the different uh type of community engagements that they do um which I thought that was pretty fascinating and interesting so those REM mine thank you um I was able to attend a couple of days as well and uh I think my take on on on the classes there were a few I mean pretty good ones and uh I guess one of the best ones I W was the the tour of Colin Creek Mall H what it was former coling Creek mall and how they are planning to redesign that whole property with multif family retail and kind of living actually part of the structure of the mall and I didn't know there was a creek running through coling Creek Mall I guess I should have there is a creek under it I was quite interested to to find that out we were able to go into one of the model homes H that they that they have um also went to a class they were talking about the pretty much how to generate more I guess money for the city how to build um in smaller lots and the twostory homes and instead of a single story homes and also by the city of Dallas with par paring and they're really trying to fight parking in Downtown Dallas and trying to find different methods with the meters and how they're trying to actually maybe increase the the the how much you pay how long you stay there if you stay there know an hour two hours how much you're going to pay for that how to enforce it and they also what I told them was the how can how to make it more convenient because they're saying well we're going to they might use an app but by the time I park and I download the app I got to remember my password for my iCloud I got to create a new user for the for the new for the new app and the enter my credit card information do I mean you're making it so difficult for parking that so so I told him about that so they are working working on that as well I attended a class about crime prevention in um at a city near Houston I don't remember right now actually the the the name of the city and uh but really close to to Houston and um they're doing it by providing some better landscape on the property they having some murals trying to engage the community community to be outside to talk to play and uh that supposedly is going to help the community with crime reduction and U so kind of that was their what they believe I they're working on that um what else um yeah I think those were the ones that I remember right now so great thank you all all right so the last item any future agenda items You' like to see on the agenda nope then the work session is adjourned at 6:46 p.m. and we will meet over for the evening session at 7:00 [Music] [Music]