Based on the context provided and the dialogue within the transcript, here is the formatted version with speaker names identified. [0:01] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Can I get a motion to approve the agenda? [0:05] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** So moved. [0:06] **Glenn Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Second. [0:07] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Seconded. We moved and second by Derek Lyndell and Glenn Lyndell to approve the agenda. Any further discussion? All in favor? [0:15] **Commission Members:** Aye. [0:16] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Motion carries. Approval of the meeting minutes from September 9th. [0:19] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** So moved to approve. [0:21] **Matt Montgomery (Mayor):** Second. [0:22] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Moved and seconded by Derek Lyndell and second, Matt, to approve the meetings of September 9th. Any discussion? All in favor? [0:28] **Commission Members:** Aye. [0:47] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Okay, before we get to the public input I just want to say thanks to Glenn and Derek for the promotion. On tonight's public input, citizens may speak to issues not on the agenda. Please approach the microphone and before speaking, please give your name for the record. Please limit your comments to three minutes. I think everyone here is for the public hearing, so we're just going to move on ahead with that. The public hearing for amending the conditional use permit by Casey's for Casey's is now open. [1:36] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Provide a little introduction and staff report if that's okay with the chair? Okay. Jordan Little is here tonight, sitting in the back. Jordan's the design engineer for the Casey's project that's before you tonight and I'm sure he will be able to answer any questions or perhaps provide some additional input or corrections on what I might say as well as we go. But we'll certainly give him that opportunity as well as the residents. You're all familiar, we have a Casey’s General Store in town. In back in 2012, that project was approved at that time by conditional use permit. The same ordinance in 2012 exists today, so the existing Casey's project was approved by conditional use permit in the B-2 business zoning district. What is proposed at this time is to expand onto the neighboring site to the east, the former Larry Dammers building. The plans that I've handed out that you've seen in the packets go into great detail about the grading, the stormwater, the removal of buildings, existing site conditions, final grading, some retaining walls, concrete sidewalk, additional parking, etc. In order to facilitate that or approve that, there's been a request by the applicant to amend the 2012 conditional use permit. So again, what we're looking at tonight is really the former Larry Dammers property specifically to the east of the building. There won't be any additional building expansion in this proposal; it's simply additional parking, some sidewalks, relocating the dumpster garbage area, and providing additional gas pumps to serve that site. So again, the former Dammers building is also zoned B-2. Behind me on the screen is the civil engineer’s plan. I’m going to stand over at the podium and maybe point a few things out there. [3:48] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Here obviously is the existing Casey's store in its current location/current state. The area bounded in yellow here is the property that's subject to the amended conditional use permit. You can see the additional parking that I mentioned would be created here. The refuse area is over here now, it would be relocated over into this location. And here would be the new additional pumps being added—some on the existing Casey's general store site, some on the former Dammers building property. Additional green area grading, stormwater areas over here. Casey's has been working with MnDOT. MnDOT will be required to issue a permit here to make changes not just in the access to the site but also with stormwater drainage control in that area. You probably recall that the current access—one of the two accesses into Casey's right now—is in this location. This is pretty close to the access that went into the Dammers property here. The proposal here for access would be to abandon the existing access there, relocate it to the east, and in this particular location. One of the comments that City Engineer Greg Anderson made is to match up the width of this driveway to correspond to the 32-foot width over here so that they would be the same. There would no longer be any access off of Floyd Street into this property; that will be gone if this project goes ahead. So it seems to be a pretty straightforward proposed expansion. Under our ordinance, we require a number of things that will be partially talked about this evening. Some evolving plans or pending plans will be for final landscaping, that sort of thing. But for the most part, I think they've done a pretty good job of meeting our conditions and requirements under our current ordinance. So tonight again is a public hearing. We've got some neighbors/residents here that will have the opportunity to speak, ask questions, and provide positive or negative feedback to the Commission as you make consideration for this application. Jordan, is there anything else that you'd like to say at this point? [6:05] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** I guess I can just be here for questions if that's the easiest way to do it. [6:08] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Okay. [6:10] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** We'll open it up for questions or comments from the audience. Please come up to the microphone. [6:22] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** My name is Glenda Cooper. [6:24] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Can you speak into the mic, Glenda? Is that the mic? Yep. [6:56] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** I need something to look at. I'm old; I can't see that far away. My concern is I'm right here. That's this—this is our house right here, Pam's and mine. This is our garage right here. There's the wall that is up here right now. The Dammers property ends right here if I'm right. It's—I mow it, we mow it. So we take care of probably about three feet or four feet of Dammers' property always have. And now, what is—is this going to be grass right here? [7:41] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes. [7:42] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Is that going—is this—this is existing? Right? Okay. And how high is that baby gonna be? The same as the other one? And is there gonna be a chain-link fence on top of that? [7:56] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes. [8:02] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** With... yeah. And that's the garbage? Well, that garbage—that's over—that garbage right there? Yeah, right there. That's usually in our yard. Not because of Casey's, but because of the garbage people. They don't know how to empty their containers. And another complaint we have is this whole area—this whole area right here is gonna be shining in our house all night. Plus the lights. Dammers or Casey's were nice enough when they first built here—because a gas station used to be up here, now it's back here right by us—when they put those lights up, it's like looking at bright lights 24 hours a day. And they were nice enough at 11 o'clock at night to tone them down a little bit, but not to the point that you had to have darkened shades in your house. Well, they look just exactly like regular shades because it doesn't do any good. And lower you are, like Kathy Climates is on the west side of the building over here, like Pam and you're low, and so the lights are up here and it's just... I don't know. I just—I just can't imagine having all that traffic going there in and out all the time. I mean, because they're so busy. They should have bought property that was that big to begin with, because they're a good store, but I don't know. And then this is the gas tanks? Is that diesel? [9:59] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Okay, so... and that comes day or night. [10:14] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** If big semis can't get in here, how is that truck gonna get in here? Anyways, the way it is now, it's over here, isn't it? We have some pumps in there. Yeah, and we got that transferred when we first watched him dig the holes and stuff. I said, because the gas tanks originally for FINA were over here, and I stood there and watched more people stand on top of those gas tanks and smoke cigarettes. So I said, could you possibly put the garbage over here and put the gas tanks over there? So they did do that. I mean, they're very cooperative. But this is in our front yard. This is our front yard because our condo has two levels—two up and two below. Two on Floyd and two on Park. It's two levels, four levels total. But I don't know, I just—to me, it just seems like... and then you got a cul-de-sac down here with other families in it. Any other things you want me to mention? [11:34] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Cars pulling in to fuel up—their lights aren't going to shine through this. There should be privacy slats so there shouldn't be any light coming through that. You're probably getting the light from a canopy, which I'm wondering if we put a taller fence in, would that block the canopy or is it just barely over the fence or can you see it? [12:12] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** I don't see very little traffic come into Casey's and I'm on the east side... except on the east side and they're part because there's no parking up by the building anymore. And I don't smell gas because the gas tanks are at the other end. But overhead lights are really those are the ones that... yeah. And they're on that high beam until 11 o'clock at night. It depends on who's working there, who turns them down. No, it doesn't. [12:35] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** And I don't want the people that design the lighting for Casey's stores... they control like a photometric of where the light should shine. So I think that they can design the lights with less brightness, I guess, closer to the south end. I'm not sure what the plan is if they're gonna put any towers up with lights on, but I'm sure there'll be at least one or two more. But I can definitely—we can definitely look at photometrics to make sure that it doesn't come over the brown tree line because I know lighting is a pollution, so it's not supposed to go over the top. [13:09] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** And I see you got your sign down here at this end now instead of... it's on the northeast end and it's just relocated to the street. Is it gonna show it to the highway that much? Like, Oh does it shine? It doesn't know, except when it was in our backyard our way. I mean these diesel tanks, do they have any... [13:48] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes, they do. So that's probably gas though, because they probably will keep the same one as diesel. Now, those two gas pumps would be my guess, because they only have diesel on pump one. [13:55] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** That one is some kinda nice. Okay, so that's the other... on the far west end. Those are the distances... can I borrow your pen? Okay, so they have diesel on this end and then they have diesel on this end. There's eight pumps here. There are some buddies that do come in there. Yeah, really, it's a tight parking lot but they do make it in. We have several accidents up there. I would agree with additional parking that they do need, but I don't wanna... this is me right here. [14:42] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** I'm right there. I see that wall and I see Casey's the way it is. This is my bedroom right over here on this side. I get all that light in my bedroom. I don't want it right in my backyard behind me and have lights coming in my back. I've got one, two, three windows back here that's gonna come right in my house. I already got it on this side of my house. Well, really the whole yard is lit up. Yeah, and there's garbage. Right now where the dumpsters are at, this garbage gets taken and it's blowing in the yard. And because we're an association, we pay to have our yard mowed and they don't get out of their lawn mowers and they don't—they don't pick up the trash. They run it over and it just gets scattered and cut up to pieces. So trash is a big deal. There's people who smoke out here, they throw their cigarette butts through the fence. [15:28] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** The public? [15:29] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Yeah. I'm a Casey's employee, so I—I see what's going on there. And I personally, it's close enough for me the way it is. I just bought my place not even a year ago and this was my main hesitation when I bought this home. And I was assured at that time that Casey’s wasn't interested in buying this building because the elevation level difference. And here I am in 11 months, and I not only have Casey's right there, which was my choice to begin with when I moved there, but now they want to put it in my backyard. And I don't—we don't have a front. Eric, this is our front yard. This is all we got. And our garage comes out like this. [16:36] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** What's there now south of Dammers? Is it just a ridge that goes down? [16:41] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Or south? It would be just the... Dammers had the parking lot in back. Two levels. We got the lower, which is Farmers Mutual or something. Oh yeah, where the surveyors used to be there. And you do—you do occasionally... and I have seen it on my bedroom windows here. There are people that come and hang out up here in the back of Casey's. And that walk is going around, isn't it? [17:15] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yeah, they have a sidewalk in the back of their building and that's about... that's what they're proposing there. I think this is a side bar, this is a sidewalk. [17:34] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Oh, this is grass? So who was responsible to mow this grass? Because your wall is right here. The wall is just north of that. Right here or here? [17:45] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes, the wall. [17:47] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** So they're gonna have grass there? So the wall would be there and then the grass. So once again, you got into the same situation that you have right here. So you're gonna have the trash and cigarette butts, people littering and people, you know, smoking. [17:59] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** So the fence that's there now is... [18:03] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** No, no. I mean, I can't—I can't sit—I can't... because Glenda and I own this. This is our only yard we have. We don't have a door to the front of our place to look out to the street the opposite direction of Casey's. So we have this little area right here that we sit in. That's our yard. I don't want to look out—I've already got a wall to the left of me—I don't want to look out and look up at a cement wall and then have a fence going around there. We used to have a great big 150-year-old oak right there, and the high winds last year or the year before took it down. Well, it was designated that more of it was on our property than on Dammers. So naturally, you know who got that cost? It was me, us. And that was four thousand bucks to remand that tree. We're a condo of four. And that just totally opened up this whole... yeah. So now we see your wall. Yeah, we see Casey's wall and we see the dumpster. People come on there... this is where the employees smoke. They go right there in the dumpster area. Glenda and I sit right here. I'm not a smoker... I was a smoker, but you know what I'm saying? I know. Yeah. So you got all the trash that comes not only from people just being disrespectful and dropping their trash as they go and not stopping and picking it up, from the garbage cans out at the pumps overflowing, and the garbage will come out of there. When those dumpsters get dumped, those things are so full that trash comes out of there. You should hear them. Oh, you can hear them when they drop those containers. [19:53] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Oh yeah, we drop—I know, yeah. It's very loud. I mean, you hear it in the store, I hear it in my house, and my bedrooms are right there. Now what is this right here? [20:11] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** That's all green space. [20:13] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** All grass? [20:14] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yep. [20:15] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** So how much are they gonna have people... another concern that I have is how much are they gonna have people? Because we get a lot of traffic off the highway. A lot of people will let their dogs out on the grass, and this is where the dogs go to the bathroom. So what's gonna stop them from going over here and down in here? [20:39] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** I should say one thing you don't see on this plan—Jordan, you can comment on this—I mean, where your yard is, you're about 16 feet lower than what the parking lot elevation will be at Casey's. So you're gonna be like this. So while that wall is ten feet, there's another six feet or so of grade and greenery that's going to flow back down towards you with the water going out to the street. So it actually is—there's going to be green area from your yard going up towards the 10-foot retaining wall. The top of the 10-foot retaining wall is about 16 feet higher than right at the edge of your home. So again, I think it's a planning issue for Casey's and Jordan to take into effect in terms of the sightlines and the landscaping. We don't have a landscaping plan yet, other than we know what the green area will be. But I think that the noise, the dumpster area, the fencing—if there's going to be fencing—the control of the pedestrians... I wouldn't expect people with dogs will do what they're gonna do, but I mean it is going to be that whole area on the east side and the south side is going to be graded. So it's not level and that's not necessarily gonna restrict people from... you know that water's gonna run down Floyd to the cul-de-sac. Jordan, can you talk about the stormwater point? [21:55] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Did she come to watch the water run down Floyd now to the cul-de-sac? No. [22:00] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** And you would think twice because the only difference is before it was all hard surface and not having it infiltrated. Now it'll be green space, and now some of it will go into the ground before it even gets to the street. Less water will be going into Floyd. [22:16] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Green area always holds water. [22:18] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** All the water from a parking lot will be controlled? [22:21] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Correct. It's all... everything from the parking lot is now going into their basins. [22:26] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes, out to Highway 19. [22:29] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Yeah, because that's what they did when they moved there. They made it flow that direction. [22:33] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** That will maybe explain it a little bit more clearly. So again, with the existing land use that's there, this property is substantially developed with buildings and parking area with impervious area. So it will still be impervious up here on that parking area that Casey's is proposing to build, but this area and this area will all be green space then, in here. And then obviously they're expanding some areas out here too in the highway right-of-way. So they'll be eliminating the parking down here and the access and the driveway over here, and that'll be transformed into green space. [23:14] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** So how far in from our yards? [23:18] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** It varies. The yardage is... looks like 21 feet. [23:22] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** 21? Oh, them have some of our yard? [23:25] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** No, no. We're gonna add 21 feet from your property line to green space. [23:32] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Oh. [23:33] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes. Here we are... this is all green on earth, that's all greenery over here. Yeah, so where that lower-level parking is, it looks like that'll be turned into green space. [23:44] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Another 21? [23:45] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** 21.6, correct. [24:03] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** So again, it would be somewhere 21 feet in here. So let's say this whole... that's this bit of blacktop. Dammers has this blacktop anyway. So they would actually—I mean in terms of what's there today—in some respects, there could be some benefits to you as a neighboring property owner, certainly some, given that a lot of blacktop is gonna be removed as is the building. Is it, Jordan? Do you know with that green space, will there be any trees or is it just gonna be... [24:43] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Yeah, we don't have a landscape plan. We've got a green area plan and a grading plan, but we don't have a landscape plan yet. [24:49] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** From my experience, Casey's is very accommodating. So whatever—if you want some pine trees there... [25:01] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Well, we planted... over here we planted pine trees to take the place. I think if you got some pine trees it'd help with the light a little bit. [25:12] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Jordan, a question for you: Do you... if this plan goes ahead and they do relocate this over here, what is there... a plan for this series? That's all just gonna be green? [25:27] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** That'll be green space. They flattened it green. [25:31] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** At the same elevation as... [25:33] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Yep, it'll be high. Right now there's a wall. [25:37] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** The pots are going anywhere? [25:39] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** They're probably going there. Yeah, it's true. I think that's where the garbage currently is. [25:51] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Ryan, is the reason for moving the garbage area just to make it more convenient for the garbage truck? [26:00] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Oh yes. Street in shadow. [26:05] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** It looks like... I mean, they kept it clean but you have to go tell them. [26:10] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** They're good. Yes, they're good about taking care of it, but yeah you know it's... I have never noticed it being stinky. [26:22] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Yeah, I haven't—I can't say I've noticed it from my own nose but... [26:25] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** The dumpster area itself, summertime, yes. Because we are such a busy store. [26:30] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Yeah, so then they would be moving the dumpster area over here. Oh, that's a dumpster. How much—how much is this wall? That would be how many feet high? How much is that gonna block us in? That we'd like—are like living in a box here. We have a wall over here and we got a wall here to Casey's. [27:01] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Pretty... you can have Jordan come up and show you the grading plans. [27:08] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Question, yeah. I just said that, how much... can we have this wall right here, existing now that we look at you know? Obviously, you gotta build up this side to match up here for the elevation. So how much is that gonna block us in? Like now we're looking out... I'm looking to the left, I see a big wall, and I look straight out and it's a wall. Am I gonna feel—and then we got a garage over here—am I gonna feel like I'm in a box? [27:42] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** You'll feel nice and private. Where the existing Dammers—the south wall of the Dammers building is in relation to the new retaining wall—the existing parking lot is like right here, the edge of it. There's like maybe five feet of grass before the parking lot from the property line. That's the existing Dammers building here. And here's the house here, so you can get some feel... I mean, this is—it's hard on this because it's a small plan, but the 21 feet is like right in here. [28:22] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** So it's to what you have now? [28:24] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yes. Yeah, so that building must be... so you got about half of that parking lot is getting... yeah, it's gonna be green space and so is this. [28:44] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** How far outside? [28:46] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** We're all gonna go this way that far. Looks like it's gonna connect with the wall up there. [29:01] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** No, there's a corner house. Any time snare closed this way then it goes that way. Yep. And then it slowly gets smaller and smaller up. [29:12] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** It's not just like it does right now. [29:14] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Yep. That's parking here and that's parking there. Yep. So your property starts to go up that hill anyway. Here's the 1948 elevation, so it's starting to go up already up to Dammers' property. And this is just the finished grade. So that here again is the wall, and this is where it's sloping back to match into your property and then around the corner to the Floyd. But it'll go—it'll go up to the property line and then down a little bit just so water can get out here and instead of going towards your house. I mean, like what I was saying is, if we put pine trees here, then you wouldn't see the wall. But I guess you want us to do that, we definitely can. [30:00] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** They could put some kind of ivy on the wall too, so the... yeah, kind of cover so you're not looking at concrete, you're looking at some kind of ivy. And that stuff kind of... get the high school art class to draw here. [30:13] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Yeah, and Casey's did with the original conditional use permit—did come back with that's a cast-in-place concrete wall but it's got some texture on it as well. Well, I don't know what the treatment's gonna be for this, probably to match. But that change was made before the original Casey's was built. They have some—they have at least some contrast on the wall. [30:49] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Is there anybody else wishing to speak? Anyone else wishing to speak on this? Open public input for the third and last time. Anyone wishing to speak? And I will close the public hearing. [31:07] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Permission. Well, I mean, Lord knows Casey's probably could use a lot more room. I go there quite a bit and sometimes you can't even find a place to park or get gas. My two concerns when I first saw it were drainage—which at least appears that that should be okay—and the light. I don't live by it but when you drive by Centex late at night it is so bright there. I feel bad for those neighbors across the street. But if we can get the signs at the right height so that they're blocked by that stuff on the fence—whatever it's called—that should keep lights out too. So if they can make sure that they do whatever they can to keep the light as much as they can out of their house, that would be my biggest concern. [32:17] **Matt Montgomery (Mayor):** I'm pretty new to this game but it sounds like Casey's is very willing to put some trees in that green space to try to mitigate the light, possibly even talk to the store and see if they can tone down the light at the right hours. And I agree with what Derek said, it's a very busy store. I think that looks like responsible use as long as they're good neighbors. [32:44] **Glenn Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** What I—they've said everything I was gonna bring up. That as long as the lighting is kind of taken care of and they seem like they're willing to kind of cover the wall so they aren't looking right at a concrete wall. And I don't know, they maybe could put in something with the garbage too if they're getting a lot of garbage down there. Either they have to empty the dumpsters a little more often or the garbage people have to be responsible for something there too. [33:14] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Well, and your lawn service. I talked to those guys, they can get off there, they can pick that up instead of running it over and just spraying it all over the place again. And then it's not so much—it's whoever mows that strip in there and they just run everything over and it just shreds it all. [33:48] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Oh no, and up close. Yeah, I mean I've had Casey's stuff at my back door. [33:55] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** His garage... the street? It's okay. Casey's—could they have someone once a week or so just go down, spend a half-hour and pick up garbage? Do they do that now? [34:10] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** I do not—they do not do it on a regular basis. [34:12] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Yeah, okay. Maybe that's something they could just plan on, like once a week or maybe even more if it needs to be. Yep. Shouldn't have to be, right, but... [34:25] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Who's your hauler? [34:27] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Our garbage hauler now? Who serves you guys? I think it's Countryside. [34:33] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** Is it Country? Yeah, okay. Yeah okay, I thought it was. And the way it is now, our dumpsters are emptied on Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Tuesday is the cardboard dumpster. So you get—let's say Monday, Wednesday, Friday—the only day that there's that garbage dumped, that dumpster being dumped, is on Thursday. And those things are loaded. And they do not—they no longer will they—they used to pick up the garbage in front of the dumpsters because the dumpsters got so full, but now they don't. Somebody has to go out there. The company won't go and pick up the garbage bags in front of the dumpsters. And as we've done... I’m a Casey's employee and then dump those trucks and so it's just—it's just a mess. And then you got to worry about... well, he's on the time limit though. He's got a... when he pulls into Casey's, he's gotta account for his time. And a lot of times he has to wait because people park in front of the dumpster area. And it's not only just employees that sometimes make mistakes, it’s customers. And then they leave their cars and the garbage man can't get in. [36:06] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** When are they planning on... when would they plan on starting this? [36:08] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** Spring. [36:10] **Glenda Cooper (Resident):** Spring. Nice. [36:12] **Pam (Resident / Casey’s Employee):** How long's it gonna take them? [36:14] **Jordan Little (Design Engineer):** All summer. Oh, they're pretty... usually, but that is a lot of dirt. [36:20] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** I would say the concerns that have been brought up tonight to the Commission, those are things that are all within our purview under our amended conditional use permit to require or at least strongly push with Casey's to address. And they probably got some alternatives here. I think Jordan—I mean, obviously Casey's has a lot of stores and deals with this all the time and maybe they can come back with some treatments that will really respond to what the neighbors are most concerned about here and go from there. But again, the resolution—the draft resolution that has been presented to you tonight, particularly under the "now therefore be it resolved" at the end, talks specifically about ordinance section 152.648. Doesn't mean that much, but we have a very specific set of standards for this type of use developing in this area. So those conditions have to be met and specifically, we've identified landscaping, screening, exterior lighting, and stormwater management as being kind of the most important standards that we really have to pay much closer attention to here. [37:51] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** Well, I'm gonna make a motion to approve the amended conditional use permit resolution 2019-10. [37:59] **Matt Montgomery (Mayor):** I'll second that. [38:00] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Moved and seconded to approve the resolution 2019-10. Any further discussion? All in favor? [38:09] **Commission Members:** Aye. [38:11] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** All those carries. Now we're just approving it to move it to the Council, correct? [38:15] **Jon Radermacher (City Administrator):** Correct. [38:38] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** That being all the business there is, is there any other comment? Nothing for me? Nothing here? I'll make a motion to adjourn. [38:48] **Derek Lyndell (Planning Commission Member):** I'll second it. [38:50] **Brian Douglas (Planning Commission Chair):** Oh you go ahead. Seconded to adjourn the Planning Commission for December 9th. Any further discussion? All in favor? [38:56] **Commission Members:** Aye.