♪ ♪ >> ways Is so ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> you. >> doing check and we on the phone. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> members. Anybody on the phone right now. >> Johnson on here. That sack. Felix Rivera. Felix. Picture. Ok, there's the arrow. We'll get started just a couple minutes. Hello, everybody. Good evening and welcome to. >> The 2/17/2026 regular meeting of Anchorage Assembly. And it's now 05:00:03PM, clerk. Would you please call the roll? >> Member Myers. Member McCormick here, member Martinez present member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Chair, Constant. Vice chair Braly member Boland. Happy to be here. Member Silvers. Member Rivera. Remember Kercher here, member Press for DIA Youth Representative bows Here. Chair. You have a quorum. >> And thank you very much. A script which please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Mr. President would you please read landing Osment? Yes, A land acknowledgment is a formal statement recognizing the indigenous people a place. It is a public gesture of appreciation for the past and present indigenous stewardship of lands that we now occupy. It is an actual statement that marks our collective movement towards decolonization and equity. The Anchorage Assembly would like to acknowledge that we gather today on the traditional lands of the deny NAFTA baskin's for thousands of years. That is have been and continue to be the stewards of this land. It is with gratitude and respect that we recognize the contributions. Innovations and contemporary perspectives of the Upper Cook Inlet to 9 a thank you, Mr. President. Next up on the agenda is number 4 minutes of previous meetings. We do have minutes from the meeting of January 13, 2026. >> Is there a motion approve Super? Second by this? Probably seconded by Mister As that As well. Today. >> Yes, it fair. Thank you. >> It will know that you're here and we're taking about him for minutes of previous meetings. So we have a motion to approve by Mispricing of Mccormick, any discussion on the motion? Seeing her? No discussion and liked ask unanimous consent rejection of the adoption of motion. Seeing hearing no objection. The motion passes. Next. We have the Maersk partner, Mayor. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair and good evening, everyone. Before we get into the agenda, I want to take a moment to reflect on the history and the people who shaped our community. February is Black History Month. It is a time for us to honor the immense contributions, resilience and leadership of black Americans such as the Reverend Jesse Jackson who passed away today. I want to express condolences to his family. We honor the black Alaskans who have built our businesses, let our schools and strengthened our neighborhoods. Anchorage is stronger because of their vision and their persistence. Also yesterday we celebrated Elizabeth, perhaps your pitch today. We remember her courageous testimony before the territorial Senate 81 years ago, which led to the passage of the first anti-discrimination law in the United States. Her legacy reminds us that progress is not accidental. It is the result of brave individuals standing up for dignity and civil rights as we conduct the business of the municipality tonight, let us carry that spirit of justice into our work on behalf of all Anchorage residents. Turning to the future of our community on the agenda for introduction tonight is our proposal to transfer the former Nordstrom building to the Anchorage Community Development Authority or a CDA since taking office. I have been clear that revitalizing downtown is a top priority for my team. This building was once a landmark of retail growth today, this vacant property represents a critical opportunity to reinvest in Anchorage is urban core. This transfer is an important step toward advancing a project to re. Imagine an iconic building and encouraging further economic developments. It will allow a CDA to lead redevelopment efforts. We envision a project that anchors the downtown district and supports local businesses by increasing foot traffic and activity near the museum and 5th Avenue mall aligns with local planning documents to create a vibrant, mixed use destination. This isn't just about one building. It's about strengthening the heart of our community and showing that downtown Anchorage is open for investment and innovation. We have lots of economic opportunities on the horizon. There's more cargo coming through Anchorage, more cruise ship passengers, construction on the port's terminal. One will start this spring projects on Jay Bear. A waste energy facility, a natural gas pipeline. So many reasons for optimism. And I'm excited about our future. Finally, I want to give an update on the ongoing work within our assessor's office since assessment notices were mailed our property appraisal team has been working around the clock literally nights and weekends to engage with the public. Here are some numbers that show the scale of this effort between January 12 and February 11, the team received 2,451 calls on the single family hotline alone. Less than 400 calls remain in the call back. Hugh and staff are continuing to return every message. Staff have already issued 1224 corrected assessments through the informal review process we have received about 1800 formal appeals, which is substantially more than last year. Those property owners who appealed to may be wondering when they will hear from us. Currently, our staff is finishing informal reviews and issuing NE needed corrections. We expect to shift our main focus to formal appeals in late February early March at that time, staff will begin contacting property owners who filed appeals and working through the next steps. Because of the high volume. This process will take longer than a typical year, but we are committed to a process that is both officiant. And above all, fair. So thank you all. And I look forward to a productive and respectful meeting. Happy Chinese New Year and go Team USA, especially our hometown athletes. Thank you. Thank you. >> next is the chair's report. And few things for report on tonight. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to our regular business meeting. I would like to follow on what the mayor just discussed about the Nordstrom building. We're going to ask that that item the set for a public hearing, the second meeting in March so that there can be more open, informal discussion with the downtown Community Council at their meeting on March, the 4th. And so if any members of the public are hearing more in detail about that, please attempt to downtown Community council having been briefed already by parties on both sides of the conversation. Pretty excited to hear about the housing proposals that being put together. The commercial proposals that are being worked out right now. And this is a foot forward into revitalization of the downtown. And I want to make sure that anybody concerns, but they think it might be will show up in person so they can hear what it will really be when that briefing happens or when the discussion comes back before us in March. Next, I'd like to think our I'd like to note that Ali Hartman are. Some bleak communication structure has selected as a top 40 under 40 for 2026. The Assembly lucky to have her on our team. Congratulations, Ali. the some of these efforts to communicate the hard work of what the body does on ongoing basis. It's really complemented by the work that out office says they've been putting together briefings on how the budget works, how assessments were contacts of these work and helping to get out sponsor messages waiting too important. Legislative projects. We're definitely lucky to have so many great leaders in our community. And I congratulate alley and all of the top 40 authorities this year we have alumni or 2 on this to us. You'll also notice that a few members are not in person tonight. Everybody is participating. Telephonically. Excuse me, everybody who is participating telephonically not everybody. 2 of the members who are participating Telephonically are down in Juneau right now at the Alaska Municipal League meeting in the Capitol. We're grateful for their participation in our meeting tonight with been working really hard down. And, you know, to get the message of our local governments across 2 the legislature, the conference gathers local government officials from across the state to learn about an advocate for local government issues. Anchorage was a founding member of the Alaska Municipal League and works closely with the league to advocate for Anchorage and local control issues. Members last meeting with legislators to discuss the Anchorage legislative program, an Anchorage priorities into those members who wish you safe travels. And productive meetings. And thank you for your participation tonight. And also like to speak briefly about her 49th anniversary of the Office of the Ombudsman this weekend. More marks 49th anniversary. Office of the Ombudsman. For those of you unfamiliar, they are responsible for resolving conflicts and complaints between constituents and local government, including the municipality of Anchorage, the Anchorage School district with their 49th anniversary. The office has a goal this year to build more connections and share how the office works so they can improve their services to the community. encourage everybody to learn more about the ombudsman's office and see how. They may be of service to you. And happy anniversary to the office of the Ombudsman. And if you have an opportunity to review the charter minutes, the charter can mention minutes. There's a lot of discussion about how and why the on button is existence where it's at and why very interesting piece history. As we near the spring at municipal election. I wanted to share some reminders about deadlines and voting March. 8th the last day to register to vote for the April 7th election. Ballots will be mailed out on March. 17th for traveling during the election. There are several options available so that you can vote. You can apply to avoid temporary address. The for must be turned in by March 31st. You can also apply to vote by e-mail, fax or by secure document portal. But we prefer, of course, to have you drop your ballot off of one of our drop boxes that will be strategically placed across town just before the 17th. Once you voted, encourage offers a way to track your ballot. It's called ballot tracks. We'd love to have you sign up for that as well. You sign up and encourage votes dot com and you'll get a text voicemail or email alert on the status of your ballot, including when it's mailed from the male shop when it's delivered and when it's received at the Election Center and when it's counted across the machine, it's a great tool that's encourage votes dot com, all of the farms and other election information can be found at dot org, slash elections or you can call the voter hotline at 907, 2 for 3 vote. Sitting or night. That's coming up again. It will be held this on Thursday, February 26th from 06:00PM to 09:00PM. The Seed left downtown part Anchorage Design Week festivities and the theme this year is imagining our winter City. 7 locals will each have 7 minutes to share their bright Warm takes on Anchorage's future of city as a winter city. Tickets are available and it will sell out to visit Dot org. Slash somebody to get yours. So, Mike, to actually note that at our last meeting, something very unusual happened. We had a breakdown of our system in which the recording stopped the whole system season. For the first time I can recall in the 9 years I've served on the spotty. We lost approximately one minute of our record. And that is regrettable something we don't want to repeat. So we've established a new recording system here which is separated from our online streaming system. So at least always have the full audio of the recording. So we're implementing a new backups. Public doesn't lose important public records that they have a right 2. So again, we lost. I think it was one minute and 10 seconds of told video feed. We've come up with a solution to ensure that doesn't happen again in the next 9 years. And finally, on a personal note, I am of Cajun descent. My father's 100% Cajun. My family is lived in Louisiana for hundreds of years and they came down from. Acadiana up in the northwest of the continent and today's Mardi Gras. It's Fat Tuesday. So I would. Tell everybody to celebrate. Laissez Le Bon Tom DeLay because tomorrow is Ash Wednesday and we all got to get back into Syria. So we're going to have fun here tonight. But that then I'll go ahead and conclude with my standard notes that a business meeting. I appreciate your help in moving us forward tonight agenda. So we may conclude at the most reasonable time possible as a business meeting were here to do the work of the municipality, please help create a climate of respect in the chambers and refrain from personal attacks are speaking out of turn. We're shouting and clapping and pacing unless, of course clapping is in order for that item. Keep science to in half by 11 inches in size or smaller. Please keep the aisles clear unless you lined up to testify. Police don't approach the dice, but if you have something to share, please to our clerk up the front for distribution. The point of order is called. Please stop speaking to the chairman role in the point of order in the record is clear if the rules aren't followed. The chairman interrupt speakers to call for compliance compliance with the rules doesn't occur. Then the chairman paused the meeting. If there's an actual destruction, the child of a warning. And if the destruction persist or happens again, the person will be asked to leave. Which now moves us to our committee. And Lee is on reports. So start with you, Mr. President. Actually, I'm sorry, I'll start with you, Mr. Myers. Mr. Meyers. Okay. We'll move on to Mr. Mccormack another departure. Thank you, Mr. Mccormick, Mr. 2 years. Thank you. Chair at the last meeting of the community and the cop Economic Development Committee. >> I just wanted to thank the members of the department's and the staff who offered feedback too. The discussion around the wildfire in to face service area. More discussion to continue and a project to emerge the next meeting of the community and Economic Development Committee will be held on. Thursday. March 5th at 09:00AM at the permit center. And I encourage everyone to look at the website for any information that the committee to discussions, it goes back quite a ways and there's lots of useful and interesting information that we often discuss that that committee. Thank you, chair. Thank Martinez. Ms Bell today. >> I think it's fair next meeting of the Municipal Audit Committee will be Thursday February. 26 from one to 02:00PM in our regular conference room at City Hall. And we will be and that's getting grants. Management process even got a report on that. I believe and that last summer and we'll be following up to see what has happened with our grant process understand what changes they think. You. >> He was a father and a Mister Johnson. >> Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair this month meeting of the Infrastructure Enterprise Utility Oversight Committee has canceled, but we'll be back again in March. And then for the Legislative Committee. Our next meeting will be on February, 25th at 10:50AM, and City Hall >> includes an update from state lobbyists, legislate consultants. And then also we will have a. >> After action review on the Ml conference and legislative business that are taking place this week. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Vice >> thanks and thanks to my colleagues for giving reports, believe additional report who are in a board member MS Cervera. But I will note that in the budget and Finance Committee round the committee will be meeting on. >> This Thursday, February 19th from 10 to 11:00AM and will be chaired by my co-chair, Mr. Want Thank you. >> Thank you. Vice chair really must Thank you, Mr. Chair. We're going to be having a meeting of the Transportation Committee tomorrow Wednesday. The 18th. At 01:00PM City Hall conference tournament. 55 discussion around Highway Safety Improvement program projects. And also Vision, 0 efforts. Thank you. Thank you. Mister Mrs. >> Nothing to report. Thank you. >> Thank you. Miss Mr. >> a chair >> as some of the cars to stated. I am not one of 2 of members and you know, for the upcoming League Winter Legislative conference, this is actually going to be my I know on before my time is up in April. And the defense started today and runs through The sides attending the conference of all of us, the U.S. and the end year having are encourage delegation and other legislators. So looking forward to that and for advocating for our communities. Thank you. Mister Chair. >> Thank you, Mr. Vera script. Thank you, Mr. Chairman report, thanks, Kirk Mister President. >> Thank you. Chair to updates tonight on February 4th, we had a meeting of the Anchorage Public Health and Safety Committee. It was a pretty packed agenda. Got an update from the Anchorage Police Department. A progress report from them as well as an update on the recommendations made in 2025. particular around the evaluation, internal and external evaluation was done. There's been significant progress on updating policies and training within that that that that department, we also had an update on their technology policy update as well as retail theft update. If you didn't have a chance see the meeting, certainly I would encourage looking at it. I listen to it online. I'm just a few more updates on that one. The was also update on increasing access to medicated assisted treatment, which is really exciting new project. We're looking at to combat are fentanyl crisis as well as an update from the Office of Emergency Management on a 2025 West Coast Storm recovery. And then the other update I have is a there's a meeting tomorrow of the assembly, Housing and Homeless Committee that will involve an update from our shelter system. Update on how that's going as well as an update from the community. Safety and development specifically on residential rehab program, the RFP for supportive Housing Services and Hfc voucher priority program for homelessness to housing. So encourage those who can to attend or to listen. thank you chair. Thank you, Mr. President and youth member Visor. The report. Thank you. Chair. Thank you. All right. That takes us now to the addendum to the agenda. So the addendum to the agenda includes items to be added to the general prepared regularly by Friday. Before we get to the denim to Jenner, we're going to go ahead and address late on the table items. >> One core parade any late on items. I think we have to both items are subject to some additional procedure. So first we have item 10 be one are a number 2026. number resolution, Anchorage assembly declaring support of the upper Dr Munro Done Canyon Road improvements, capital projects in the 2 Dash access service area question 8, including the U.S. by 2027 to 2032 six-year capital improvement program as probably moved to land a table. Second. Moved to Miami table by most probably seconded by Mister McCormick. 3rd. This one is not one that request 3. That's the ordinance that's below this one will actually requires to go through on the table procedure. Mopar 8 votes the table. The motion has been made to limit table by problem bright. >> also content discussion for we get to that point, the timeliness argument for this and apologies to my colleagues. We intend intended to get this on the agenda. This is related both to the local project but also state funding. And so it was intended to coincide with our visit down in Juneau to speak to a couple legislators who have secured the state funding. We already have. And to add and to basically continue to assert our support for that in. The space that they have a limited budget. Thanks. >> Any further discussion, emotional and the table. none members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. >> member Johnson. Yes, people. Member of ERA. >> vote of 11 to 0 on the youth member votes. Yes, a number our item. 10 D one is laid on the table. That takes us now time 10 7, which is our next front reduction. 2026. A number in our and sinker to some of encouragement. chapter? 21. 5, 21 to 40 old code and 21 at 50 old code sections. 21. 0, 9, 0, 5.21 To 10. 0, 5 on 21 to 35 old code. To clarify the land use review process for data centers and similar energy intensive. So there's question the Planning Department vote your specific criteria for energy intensive waiving planning and Zoning Commission review. This item set on the tiller us Brian move to introduce. Second. Moved by mispricing of by Mr. 3rd by member Silvers. That item will be back before us. On the meeting of March. The 3rd. So now we've gone through that. To go ahead and ask for a motion to incorporate the Denham a sprint distributed and the late on the table items. Some moved second. Moved by Mister Von Seconded by Probably mice, too, right? Any discussion? Like to ask unanimous consent or any objection. Senior. No objection. The addendum to the Jenin laid on the table and it's been incorporated. Next. We'll move on to our audience participation. Excuse me, our appearance requests are both requesters. One of them 9 is us too appear at the end and audience participation because you can't be here in person tonight's the night. It will not be happening and 9 B, the individual 5. The pension question asked to withdraw some or be hearing. So that then takes us to the consent agenda. Consent agenda are. Item-number through 10. She and her typically routine or non-controversial items. Our last meeting showed sometimes those of the big business, they're generally visit words new business information reports, ordinances and resolutions for introduction items on the consent agenda may be excepted are adopted or approved by the Assembly by simple vote on a motion to approve the consent agenda prior to approval items. Maybe Paul been assembly member for discussions. Every vote on any of the items under the some of rules of procedure ordinances and some resolutions. We'll have an opportunity for public Future dates will start with you to pardons, Mr. President, thank you. Chair Norton's tonight. Thank you, Mr. Barker, no items. Thank you, Mr. Thank you know, either. Thank you. Miss overs. >> No items. Thank Thank you, Mr. Bond. Thank you. Mister Chair 10, a one. Mr. Vargas pulled 10, a one >> Thank 10 D 10. The administration. And then 10 D 2. >> And not an item I'm pulling. But for 10 G 3, I'd like to request that the public hearing on that be set for March 24th. >> I'm directing that the public hearing be set for March 24th for item 10 G 3. That's the Nordstrom. and that's it for me. All right. So I have pulled by us. Probably 10, the 10th on behalf of the administration and 10 eat too. Yeah. Okay. Mister Johnson. No items chair. All right. Thank you. as pollen day. >> Nothing for me. Thank you. Chair. >> All right. Thank you. Mr. Martinez, no additional items. Thank you, Mr. Mccormick, no one. Take Mr. Meyers coming up. You joining us in just a couple minutes. Okay. So currently hold items. I have 10 a Mr. Bolland 10 D 10 Ms probably 10 eat too. That's probably and that's it. There's nothing else tonight. Good to ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda. Minus the polled items. The Motion approve. probably second. My Mister Fund. discussion. Seeing hearing no discussion like to ask unanimous consent. Is there any objection to the adoption of the motion? Seeing and hearing? No objection. The consent agenda minus the pulled items has been. Texas now to item 10. One. 1 is. Our 2026 dash. 36, a resolution of the Anchorage Municipal Assembly, recognizing and celebrating February 17th 2026. as Elizabeth Pratt Day. This item was pulled by you, Mr. Bond. Yes, Mister Chair move to approve. Motion. Approve on second member. Silvers. Any discussion. I'd like to ask unanimous consent an injection to the adoption of the motion. no objection. The motion is approved. I who's reading his resenting March air. I'm reading and member Silvers will be presenting. >> The family and friends of Mr. return of comfort. All right. resolution at the Anchorage Municipal Assembly, recognizing and celebrating February 17th 2026. Hazell. Elizabeth Pratt Whereas Alaska native sisterhood grand the President, Elizabeth Wanamaker Prep to pitch was born July 4th, 1911, in Petersburg, Alaska. As a member of the K*** in the Raven Moiety of the Clean Get Nation with the clean, get name of Todd. person who packs for themselves and whereas after being orphaned, Elizabeth was adopted by Andrew Engine Wanamaker graduated from Ketchikan High School attended Shelton Jackson College and Western College of Education and married Royal Pratt Revenge on December. 15th 1931. And whereas seeking greater opportunities to Pratt, Revenge, family moved to Juneau where Elizabeth in Roy encounter discrimination against Alaska Natives in their attempts to secure housing and gain access to public facilities spring there to become leaders in the battle for native rights. and whereas leveraging their positions as leaders with the Alaska native sisterhood and Alaska native Brotherhood. Elizabeth in Roy work to bring attention to the issue of discrimination, lobbying the territorial legislature and Governor Gruening for passage of anti-discrimination legislation. And whereas Elizabeth's compelling testimony before the Alaska territorial Senate was instrumental to the passage of the Anti-Discrimination act of 1945, which provide equal access to public accommodations in the territory of Alaska foreshadowing and helping to inspire the national civil rights movement of the 1950's and 1960's. And whereas in 1988 the Alaska legislature designated February 16th as Elizabeth today and in 2020, the United it issued a one dollar coin bearing the image of Elizabeth Pratt. Ravitch in honor of her legacy of civil rights activism making her the first Alaska native to be honored on United States currency. And whereas the Alaska native sisterhood and Alaska native Brotherhood continue to carry on the legacy of Elizabeth in Roy Pratt's. Your pitch and other Alaska native civil rights pioneer runs by advocating for social justice, equity and inclusion. Now, therefore, the Anchorage Municipal Assembly resolve that February 16th 2026. is Elizabeth tractor. But today in the municipality of Anchorage and encourages the community to celebrate the life and legacy of civil rights and social justice champion. Elizabeth want to make are prepped pitch passed and approved by the Anchorage Assembly. The 17th day of February 2026. >> Welcome the microphone. Soft as a green button. Can you hear me? >> While this is an honor give a little bit of a story and then turn it over to these. >> Wonderful ladies next to me, because I am also camp to Alaska, native Brotherhood out Juneau. My name is Chris McQueen. Mike Lincoln name is chalk Amigo. Kelly? Well, D with a little bit of Police say. From our families from Haines, Alaska. The late 18, 100's. It was a village, ancient village called Yondr Stuckey quite big then click on as we know it. Now. But then chief was my great, great grandfather Chief Donald He was called Silver Dollar Eyes by the new Presbyterians that had try to move up to southeast Alaska and barely survived their first winter and it was the clink. It people under great and for great, great grandfather who got them to their first winner. He had 2 daughters, one of his daughters as my great grandmother could gent who have married William Paddock and had 6 boys and one daughter and my grandfather Raymond Paddock, senior. He had another daughter, which was the mother of Elizabeth Great family, different times things you wouldn't or couldn't talk about back in the day now to stream that Elizabeth was given up for adoption. Of amazing woman married Roy and we know the rest of the history. There's a big family. Some pre-debate family here in Anchorage and some of the paddocks. I represent the paddocks. She would have been my great aunt. My grandfather's first cousin. very thankful to the assembly and the mayor and some of the mayor staff that I have worked with over the years Suzanne. Becky and can't forget policy. I have been at least over 21 years and the different hats him from the assembly. And it's always an honor to be here. I was raised by Tim Potter. Most you remember 10 Potter and all that. But on behalf of our family, on behalf of the Alaska native community, she is our Martin Luther King and I said here, the passing of a Jesse Jackson today as well. Again, thank you for honoring our native people on this incredible day and turn it over to the ladies next. Me. If they want to say anything and introduce yourself. >> Good evening. Thank you for welcoming us to special event for Elizabeth spread of although. The state. The city, the state and the nation honor heard recognized sir. Mary 16 to realize that it was closed yesterday. And we did have a very special event, February 15th that he will do Marston theater and we showed the bill for the rights of all ending Jim Crow in Alaska. And it was very informative. It was very, very delightful to be able to present that to the public. Thank you. The mayor of Anchorage for proclaiming this spent special day for Elizabeth. Proud of And mayor worship back in 9 in 2003. Dedicated the Parada pitch part named Roy analysts apparent down on 4th and East Street. I was there. My mother was fair and surely, Kendall, was there and some others of our organization. We are the Alaska native sisterhood camp. 87 were a local camp and we are open to everybody. We meet the purse Thursdays of every month at Alaska Native Medical Center conference room. Number one from 6 until 7. We have very short With bout because we. We realize spot for such a special. Special right. And that was for human beings to be able to live freely in housing, education in jobs. And to bring up. Our children to be able to walk side by side with everybody else and not be discriminated against. And so we're very pleased that this has happened because it opened the doors for many, many native people in families. Need to corporations and villages were able to prosper. I just brought up a couple of the dolls, age of dolls and then also there is a clean cut. Barbie doll. And years ago, Mattel made this. This doll. They also have a fish camp doll. Well. I'm from Sitka, Alaska. I was brought up here at age 11. At age 8. I went to a store right before Christmas. My girl cousin. She told me to sign up for a Barbie doll. That's what the prize was. When I went there that start owner told me he said, what are you doing? You can sign up for that. Don't you know you're not a white girl. And I was like was sacked. And my bike or a cousin was Happ breed. So she didn't look needed. But she was. So she told me, Cynthia said, no. Lynette. Anyway, I signed up. And then when the drawn came. My girl cousin one department, And she was so happy. They were very, very poor. They had a big family and I was so happy for her because the native girl didn't win the part. We Thank you. We struggle and we still struggle. My granddaughter just one. The Ferrante view, Sweetheart and Princess Award. So her name is Madison Suits. Thank you. There is my vice president. Sergeant at arms shirt. They can real quick themselves. Thank you. Thank Susan, for let's start in arms. Ask a native sister hit. >> My name is Celia I pass grand president of last name sisterhood. I'm currently vice president with the local camp. 87 here. I just wanted to say on behalf of grand count are grand President. Sandy Churchill of Ringgold. We wish to say thank you for the recognition can means a lot. >> Of in disclosing that forgot to mention, too, Governor Steve Cooper, we thank him to it was his leadership at the time back in the late 80's with my mom, who was Carol Paddock Jorgensen who was also a grand can't president who saw the vision of creating Lizbeth credit stay. he sometimes gets forgotten. You mentioned as the governor at the time. So I just want to make sure I get that. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman Heavy as a co-sponsor. Mr. could be as a co-sponsor. All right. Anyone Okay. Both of us for current. On the microphone is off. Can we turn the microphone on? If you want to speak? We have a coin replica of Elizabeth. Proud of it. You will be in the back. >> The last commit commemorated it years ago. And it's hard to find now that it's pretty neat. Thank you, everybody for coming tonight. I think that the intent of item 10, D 10 is not to move it. We heard from the administration that there was an air and they're going to resubmit at our next meeting. >> So there's no action needed on item 10 D 10. So next we have 10, one of the formation, Certain your piece that I think for item 10, d 10 that was pulled by most probably the administration and asked us to plus because there's an error in the document and it will come back. Reintroduce item at the next meeting. Okay. So that the same nominee will come back the next But for a different commission make they got the commission say the wrong so. So it'll coming up in the future. So but not tonight. Next. We have item 10 e 2. 10 eat. Who is? Resolution R Twenty-twenty 6 dash. 38 resolution I think it's appropriate a grant when tendered for 86,080 dollars as reimbursable grant from the state of Alaska Department of Health and to health and social services, an appropriate 1000, $893 as a transfer encourage Metropolitan Police Service area from 1, 5, 1, 0, 0, 0, 2026. Increased police department operating budget all to the state grants fund 2, 3, 1, and police department. conference foe could stimulant and substance use program this item's pulled. a move to print. Motion. Approved by most probably second Imus phone, >> Thanks. first, I will say the seams. Great. So I urge support. The reason I pulled it is because there's just a technical correction to make and I don't even know if we It's not. It's not so I'm going to make an amendment moving amendment to strike the words and social services in the Department of Health, the name of so it should say State of Alaska Department of Health. Ok? And actually I'm sorry. And in a we just found it a moving probably amendment one. 2. No, Let me start. Let me start of are just to be clear. So in a move, a verbal amendment to strike the phrase and social services anywhere it appears in the resolution or the memo for the purposes of correcting the name of the department. Second. >> Motion to amend by Mr. Price second-best want Israel? >> Yeah, should be self-explanatory. The State Department of Health and Social Services was split into 2 departments. And so this is just the current name of that department, which is state of Alaska Department of Health. >> any further discussion on are any discussion, the amendment. like to ask unanimous consent injection amendment. no Objection. Amendment is adopted. Next. We have the main motion as amended. Any discussion. Casing hearing members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> vote of 11 to 0 in the youth member votes. Yes, Our 2026 Dash 38 as amended has passed the body. So that I would just note that for item 10 for we scheduled a work session that will be happening on the 27th that and 10:30AM. Otherwise that concludes our consent agenda will take are schedule dinner. Break my back. Just after the top of the hour. 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Public hearings. brings us to I am 14 a 14 is the year 2026. To 7 resolution approving Heritage Landing 2026. and it will work program in 2027 to 2031 5 year management plan. The public hearing on this item is now open. Anyone wish to be heard. Please come forward. Welcome. Please say your name. Are you speaking on your behalf of the council? Mike phones off. Let's listen. And I turn the mic front. Welcome. Please. State your name apart. Attorney from have 5 minutes. Thank you. >> This is capping Gleason currently serving as president of turning in Community Council. And we approved comments that we have submitted to the municipality on November 6, 2025. So we we appreciate the opportunity to continue to drive and put on this important document we have for many, many years. And we've been pretty consistent on the input that we have provided one the first thing. And so we'll be focusing on edge of the parcels within the West Bank Bridge area. So one of the things that commented on case and could you pull the microphone up? Certainly. Is that better? Okay. Is acquiring municipal entitlement lands that in 1986 they were chosen to be transferred to the municipality of Anchorage. So I think we've probably waited long enough. These include really high value recreational and wildlife habitat areas, including. Areas where point wards off overlook and sections of the coastal trail are located. Little Campbell Lake Park land adjacent to can kid Park DeLong like Park. And Northern section of Connor's Bog Park. So we hope we really go ahead and get this finalized. Hopefully this year. I think this would be a good year to go ahead and get that finished anything turning including council can do to help that process. We would happy to do so. With regard to under the 2026 potential projects. The draft plans said that the former center became vacated in 2024. And you knew that and staff is working with other departments to determine municipal need. And so the 20 time of 40 Anchorage land use plan designates this as community facility, an institution and that it shall be land adjacent to his is designated part or natural area. Union, 1983, the coastal trail route study identifies this area generally located near the cultural center. At the end of point, words off dry to the coastal trails, a potential coastal park. And it's an idea that. Tcc members come up with it would provide an area too, actually enjoy between point words off, overlook and Kincaid Park and I know a child. These response to that was we have to coordinate with DOT on that. And we acknowledge that. So we hope maybe that can be further investigated and discussed. Sometime this year. With regard to parcels 4 dash 3, 2, 4, dash, 3, 3, 3, 3, a through F and 4, 3, 4. We have consistently advocated for the transfer of these parcels to the municipality Parks Department. the taste to ensure permanent protection of the coastal trail and associated natural open space buffer within these parcels. At the January. 26 2024 Advisory Commission meeting staff announced that the 2 year lease renewal of FAA portions of that hat were not renewed. And so that just kind of opens the door for that process to go ahead and continue. And this effort would be compliant with that went 2001 Anchorage, comprehensive plan identifying this area as community preference for natural open space. Important wildlife habitat, the West Anchorage District plan classifies these parcel areas as parks and natural habitats and the 2040 land use plan designates these parcels as park or there used to be more language in that section that we thought was very helpful on. Good like to see that resubmitted. Thank you so much. you. same questions. Thank you. Thank you. And he also steered his come forward. Welcome, please, state your name a part of town you're from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> Hello, I'm Amanda Todd. A I ask you the assembly this evening to not approve the Hirshland banks 2026 and Jan 5 year work program until summer. Major corrections are made to this plan. Issue number book code cannot supersede Alaska statues has been in code. Comprehensive plans cannot supersede state of Alaska area plans. This is known as preemption and protected under Alaska's statute title. 29. Each of these formal response. My comment number, 80 is incorrect and it must be updated to reflect the New Guard. A comprehensive plan. It's an amendment to the 1995 COVID area plan which covers the entirety of Glacier Creek Valley. The comprehensive plan does not supersede the 1995 state plan as a common number. 80 incorrectly states. That's made it to pieces of documentation. Each of you see the Assembly's email address that supports us about suppressing copies of these documents this evening. As the 9 to 95 planned go to an area plans. Name is indicative it is a state issue. Policy document on Page 2 of the policy under plan development process. It's states because of need to establish compatible in calm caught and then Sherry management plans and policies between the Alaska Department of Natural Resources and the municipality, the development of the greater area plan was undertaken as a part jointly coordinated planning effort between the 2 governments. Each will be did not work with the Department of Natural Resources in the planning process of the Girdwood comprehensive plan. Nord as hlb have jurisdiction of governments over U.S. Forest Service lands or state public lands within Glacier Creek Valley. The second document attached each of these requests to planning Department on May 6 to initiate the current the current grid with comprehensive plan as the document clearly states within the header. That is a request for an amendment not to supersede. Please update each of formal response and represents throughout the plant to clearly state the group. A comprehensive plan is an amendment to the 1995 area plan. Issue number 2 excluded from this plan is a ownership and responsibility pertaining to the funding repair, maintenance and routine inspections of the federally listed Girdwood Levy. It should be is known for 3 years of their ownership and responsibility of this levee but has continuously disregarded its inclusion in their annual and 5 year work plans and have refused to put it on any monthly meeting agenda to date. This is gross negligence discussion, responsibilities of each before the foot federally regulated on Levy must be included within the U.S. this year's plant. Not only for the sake of lives, property businesses you're putting at significant risk. But far states economy, you'd be a shame. A manmade catastrophe cut off Alaska's transportation quarter to deep sea ports. It must be included. >> Thank you. And then all snow room wish to be heard. All right. We do have one person on the call us coming going to call. Wow, this call from Mr. Brown. This is the income somebody regarding our 2026 to 7 had land bank 2026 and we're program. Would you get a please state your name? A part of town. You're from have 3 minutes. >> It says this nation York. would like to to speech just one more time. Just >> have your time is going of 2 minutes and 42 seconds left. >> All right. So there was symbol of managing microchip for the record Technical down on this mission. It was forced to said a 6 to see we going. Hov parcel 6 2, 5, 1, but deny to support are 26. That's formally request NBA. This investigation into the trouble to go on port of this parcel Im not asking for Lance. There were asking for a simple title. asking the take those be best we should creek resort. That's 5% approximately of the part of If they could do, if you're going to probably more important number, intention behind this project is designed to as a common enough to people to work. The 2 if segments of higher and travelers not want to consider lost apartment, just a nation. Most guests overspend, more support year-round jobs. house in space, one priority, not a future. I do. If we're serious about for most investment 3rd with one support the people who work there. We also recognize important role systems artist on April 2009 Dash, 5, 1, 2, Florida Keys Of portions arsenal are 6 dash. 2, 5, 1, was established we look at Velma requires location will fund and more than that with the 50's and the existing system at the fulcrum you. If goal simple, no, that's a any improvement. That's what, what what plans the parcel will be respected and the culprit is a permanent. The votes been the best of you trying to recently experts, especially with Troy Christian thing to that if you listen this position to move forward, survey controls are established parcels per unit Anderson is structures that is adjacent alone. project can take years, work and forward. The statement the defense and online. >> asking city to work with probably the 2 of you. do find the full community concerns and advice detailed planning if we work together this because a worker or business expense term tax speak to his tourism goes. I respectfully ask for your support air. 22 a success of and to continue to move forward to Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. We had a very difficult time hearing in the room, but I know you submitted an e-mail communication by our portal and that communication has been shared with administration. So just a 1995 Girdwood area plan. The plan is a comprehensive plan element of the municipality and supersedes the 1995 girdwood area plan. So if that's incorrect, we took that directly from. The card. Would comprehensive plan. >> Ok, great. appreciate You are in that e-mail that I said. So that's good. I think we're all set Maybe throwing it over to Bill and Becky or any. Have you have concerns that you have a chance to review that? want to make sure that. moved for tonight. Everything's all squared away. >> And this particular issue, I would would defer to the judgment our real estate director on this particular issue. >> If you comfortable uncomfortable. Did you want to address the topic of the levee? >> Sure. Through the chair to member Poland we have we did a memo to our file. We did a lot of research on the levee when it was brought to our attention. We have talked with the core. The state dot are the Muni watershed. The Muni Flood Hazard manager and GSA staff. We have done site visits. Just because that levee is now listed on a federal database that is just a database of structures. That list does not come with any additional requirements for maintenance or management. We have been in constant contact with the Corps levee program and they have. Told us that we don't have any additional responsibilities we do get out there and do annual site inspections. We've done a site inspection with the watershed group, also with Judy SA staff. So it's it's not something that's not going unnoticed. >> Ok, thank you, Mr. Briggs. And I think with that, I'm prepared to move forward. Thank you, Mr. Chair. >> And I would note that we did receive an email kind of update memo from the Hlb today on the question of the Levy. So it's there is some communication premier Spy. >> Thanks a couple questions. And then I tend to move an amendment. So the question what I guess one is just a statement to follow up on the plan. I think it. Yeah, it is a question for breaks. But the statement is simply to confirm my understanding. It's typical in planning practice that when you adopt a new planet does supersede the old plan. And typically it says in the plan, something like the most recent plan governs. That's a general principle. So it's not surprising that that's your answer. My question is different topic related to the testimony from Ms Cully Senate earning in Community Council. What is the status of those municipal entitlement lands and that you mentioned and just kind of in general, what would be the process to complete that Laker? They're known barriers right now. We're kind of what what would that look like? Threw the chair to member probably it's a great question on the municipal entitlement lands. We will dig into that and see who we need to start a conversation with that, the state. And if we have any barriers, we will certainly out forward. >> Yeah, thank you. And I know in theory what those are, but I don't know how that affects the Muni. So I'm happy to work with you on that. The future. And then lastly, I don't have additional questions, but I'm gonna move constant amendment one second. >> Motion to amend by sprawling seconded by Mr. Fund project. >> I think you and I can turn it to the sponsor. So I was reading through the plan our work session. I asked a question. >> Where does the mayor is 10,000 homes? Aspiration and goal? Find itself in the plan. And the answer was it's all over the planet here and it's there, but it wasn't anywhere. Very literally and directly and explicitly. And so I decided to move forward in discussions with. The mayor's deputy chief of staff that we add just a little bit of preamble language that expresses that the policy is in support of 10,000 homes in 10 years. And so that's the gist of the amendment. And I would urge your support. Also on the amendment. And seeing none members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Johnson. Yeah, member Baldwin Day. Member Rivera. >> vote of 12 to member votes. Yes, the amendment was passed back on the main motion as amended. don't see any further amendments. Any further discussion. So I say thank you to their time bank team for getting this before us and continuing to keep the ball moving forward on helping ensure that the municipality as a primary land holder is do its due diligence to get the land into the proper function, to support a housing and other initiatives. And I do recommend if you haven't seen at the email from the testifier that you can really hear, please look into that. It was quite interesting. There's no one else. The numbers may proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera there. Yes, >> vote of 12 to 0 youth member votes. Yes, yes, they are 2026 dash 7 as amended is passed. The body next 4 on to item 14 be Reza share twenty-twenty succession. 11 resolution proving administrative agreement Iff a number 2026 Dash, one between out of Anchorage, the National Association of Firefighters, Local 12. 64 regarding a change collective bargaining agreement. Language public hearing on this item is now open and wish to be heard. Please come forward. Welcome, please. State your name or a part of Turner from the mic is off green button. You'll have 3 minutes. >> Thank you. My name is Justin Mac resident of Assembly District. 4. But here representing the Anchorage firefighters on the president to be encouraged. Firefighters union Iff local 12. 64 representing 400 fire and EMS personnel across the city. >> This agreement is a it's a long process to get here. The assembly approved in number 2024, dash. 68. >> Which allowed our represented battalion chief's to collectively bargain. >> The only pending question was an administrative agreement that actually brought. Formally brought the battalion chief's into the bargaining unit. And so that's what's sitting in front of you today. I'm available to answer any questions. We also have 2 current battalion chiefs who are here available to answer any questions that you might have. And I want to an extent extended. Thank you to to this body for their support in 2024. In passing this and to the administration for their support in coming to this agreement. The main point of this agreement are. Trying to find a way to bring the battalion chief into the bargaining unit. Also recognizing that much like any part of our contract. There's going to be work to be done along the Whether that get that work gets done. Between bargaining agreements or during the next collective bargaining. Those are things that we have a yet to be seen. But and general, just want to say thank you to the administration and to the assembly and will be available for any questions. Anyone else wish to be heard on item. Senior. None public no clothes with somebody. 2 second motion to approve Probably saying members from want. I can speak to a priestly. Yeah, just very briefly that I can turn it Mr. Khan Cent. >> I think this is an item at that was stated just now this was a policy decision made in 2024. So it's really an acting that in this bargaining agreement and appreciated the opportunity to learn that this is actually common in a lot of other states. And in fact, it was actually previous practice in the municipality. And so it's really returning to historical practice in the city. Thanks. Mr. Council vote. >> If there's no one Members proceed to vote. Member Myers. >> Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member of era Yes. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, yes. Air Twenty-twenty 6 Dash 11 has passed the body next 7 14 C and 14 see is 2026 Dash 18, an ordinance to include some of many average Russell Code. Section 3.71, 9, 0, to move up. Data classification cause for the fire and emergency medical services. Bargaining unit returned fire. Toney chiefs represents s public hearing. This item is now open. to be heard on this item. public hearings now close with small pie. I'm a surprising ally. Mister Aunt. Mr. Constance, thank you. And I just want to say thank you to. Union for their patients. The firefighters I would like to say. Thank you to the chief for the ongoing work in this challenging conversation that has gone on for number of years. Too long. But hopefully we're at a point and to the administration for being part of the process to get us here. This project started in the previous administration and you're putting to bed so. I just want say thank you. Everybody who's been party to it? There's no in Austin members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> vote of 12 to 0 in number of votes. Yes, 2026 Dash 18 has passed the body. Thank you all. Next. We 14 2026 dash 20 nornes. The of rise in the application of acceptance and borrowing aggregate amount not to exceed 5 million on $132,720 and appropriating 1 million, 798,000 $720 from the state of Alaska Drinking Water fund, bipartisan infrastructure law emerging contaminants funding. The purpose financing portion of the Tonight. How Subdivision Water project and providing for related matters. Think water utility Capital Improvement Budget Fund. 5, 4, 0, 2, Amending the 2026. Capital Improvement. Budget programs. Public hearing this item is now open. Anyone to be heard on this item. Seeing hearing none public hearings now close with of the body move to approve second by miss. Probably say I'm a strong this problem. >> Yeah, this one I urge support. This is really a step in a much longer process that I know we've got emails about from folks that live in The Tonight Hill Subdivision. So again, I would just urge support. Thanks. A further discussion. Here and seeing none members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. member of air, a member. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 in the youth member vote. Yes, yes. 2026 dash 20 passed the body. brings us to item 14 2026 to 17 an ordinance amending the zoning map and approving the rezoning. Approximately 4.3 acres from our for S L multifamily residential district. A special invitations are for multifamily residential district. Pursue towers tracked one Northway Business Park plant. Many 6 dash. 59. Public hearing on the side of Open. Welcome, please. State your name part-time from. You'll have 3 minutes. The Microsoft. Take good evening. Tyler Robinson, Cook Inlet, Housing Authority chair members, the assembly mayor and staff. >> I'm here to ask for your support of this rezoning their primary reason we're here is we recently purchased a property that the zoning was our 4 S Alex never been developed on. The original ordinance was made in 1982, you can imagine a little bit different time in 1982 where we were as a community as well where we had code to guide development. And so one of the things that the special imitation did, he's a required any multi-family use to come forward and to go through a conditional use permit process that would be unusual today. I don't know of any Sarah, by right, residential development that requires a conditional use permit. We've substituted that process with lots of other things in code. What from landscaping to just administrative reviews and a whole bunch of other things. And so what this would do eliminate a reason for us to go forward with this up now or importantly, at any point the future, if we amend what our current plan. And so our current plan is to build 72 units senior affordable senior housing in 3 different phases. So it's possible we get to that. We hope to build the first one this summer. Best possible we get to a subsequent phase. And if it was a little bit out of sync with whatever conditional use permit process we went through, we might have to go through that process again. Acp process cost between 20 $30,000 and it probably takes you know, generally speaking about 4 to 6 months to find this, I think you all know that recently outlawed the ability to put special limitations on. So this is we're just asking you to remove what is there and to render us back to the R 4 zoning in this case. We believe that were consistent with a comprehensive plan. That's one of the criteria that you all have to find to prove this zoning that generally is done through colors on the map that in this case is a medium intensity land use classification. It calls for density between I think 15 35 dwelling units and acre were somewhere between 15 and 20. By time. We had everything we need to on sites were squarely within there. We have 3 story buildings which you see both in medium and high density areas. So as guess my point is, there's a lot of overlap. We could be kind of partly high, partly medium on a four-acre site that would be normal. And finally at what I would say is the R 4 zoning is needed. We bought this parcel with R 4 zoning. We knew it from a height standpoint. Even though you can build three-story buildings in the are 3 zoning. 35 feet is often too short to build a modern day elevated three-story building. So we we both meet the I think the classification of medium intensity, but also need that are for zoning and are just asking your help to streamline the process and allow us to move forward with this development. Thank you. I have a question for you. Did you see the amendment? I was just recently shared the amendment. I think that spirit of the amendment and staff can speak to it is I believe it provides flexibility. I believe that when you look at the comprehensive plan, we should not read that document like zoning code that that is a a policy guidance document. There has to be some flexibility, I believe staffs amendment just clarifies that. That doesn't mean saw flush button on staffs amendment. It's my amendment. I like Mr. Boland Amendment. >> Came from Thank you. But it works. I think I think you're giving yourselves the rationale and the justification to move forward with this. And with that, I really appreciate it. I think there should be a little more flexibility with how we interpret it. >> The still like I can build our 4 styled development in our 3 just by altering a few things. Nobody knows the difference. When you look at our 3 or 4, I guarantee that and we often are not really hitting the highest levels of density because of everything else. I like the flexibility that you're granting yourselves this evening. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard. thank welcome. none public hearings will close its well about move to approve second motion to approve a strong second. problems from >> Okay. Miss overs seconds. And the M on sort seconds in Thank you all. Move Constand on amendment number one. Motion to amend. I'm a strong Second Amendment as promised >> Thank you. what this does is puts into the record. Our concurrence as a body with the planning and Zoning Commission with their finding in support of rezoning to our for. This I think. A rare instance of a differing recommendations. I want a disagreement, but I will say differing recommendations between the planning department and the planning and Zoning Commission. And I think that the commission laid out some good rationale for their findings. As we heard in testimony tonight. I also feel that having this as part of the record is consistent with our prior policy as a body to remove ability for special invitations to be applied 2 properties and some folks will remember that ordinance that we But I believe we have some newer members. And for me, you know, when we have a special invitation getting getting in the way of multi-family residential that's a problem. This will be a project in my district. I'm really excited about senior housing. We need more housing for seniors. And so I that. This is being worked on. Member constant or rather constant. And I did work with Assembly Council verify that We can. We can agree with the Planning and Zoning Commission's recommendation and looking at you know, are finding as as the assembly. Instead, it is consistent with the comprehensive plan would not result in an objective risk to health or safety and just not conflict with other laws or regulations. So just having that as part of this, I think strengthens. The criteria for this reason. And I hope you all will support. Thank you. So I have Mister Johnson next IQ. >> thank you, chair. I have a question from the administration of the planning on who wants to feel that I having read amendment as well as PCs comments. The Planning Department's recommendation. I'm just to could, you know, maybe a lab really elaborate a little bit more on if planning continues to have concerns either with this amendment, if it's adopted, this is somehow a precedent setting action that we should be mindful of or is the inclusion of amendment necessarily would affect their recommendation for the underlying ordinance that we're contemplating here. >> Threw the chair member John release about planning director for the record. In my mind, this is an example of the system working the way it is supposed to work. We took a conservative approach to the interpretation of the planned and probably will continue to take a more conservative approach to interpretations when it comes to the removal of pastels. We made a recommendation that the planning and Zoning Commission, we had a great discussion at that commission about this particular case in the and leaves that I feel comfortable with the findings and the Planning Department feels comfortable at the findings that the planning and Zoning Commission made it is here before you to decide whether or not you agree with their findings as well. >> Okay. That's helpful. Thank you. >> All right. Mr. Johnson. This All right. Thanks, Profit. >> Thank Also intend to support this and I appreciate the amendment. And then I'll just say here rather than on the main item, I think. This is exactly the kind of thing that really speaks to the need to update our plan overall. Obviously, that is a much bigger project than this one project. And so this is not a place to hold it out. But I again, with with planning the general principle is that the goals are the most important. And then the policies and all of the level below that is really the detailed how to get there. And end point of it is to reach those goals. And so when we have a disconnect between our individual policies in the actual goals, especially in the area of housing. I think there's more we can do there. And I also say this is another great example. I know some folks were not on the body when we discuss special limitations in detail. I for 01:00AM glad that they're behind us is a policy. But we have hundreds of them still to deal with often going to get dealt with in manner where an individual project applicant is trying to do something and then finding something that in this case was from, I believe 1982. that said, you have to go through a certain public hearing process which we already have in our code. Now since that time and saying that basically we're using a different zoning district to achieve some of the goals that are in that zoning district and also modifying it so that we create these weird Frankenstein districts that only apply to one parcel or a set of parcels. So anyway, just to say for those who are really interested in digging in the weeds on special limitations, there is a lot more that you can uncover there. But for now, I am glad that this one is proposed to be removed and again, that we are sticking true to our goals, which is to build more housing and to make sure that that housing fits in the neighborhood said it is. Thanks. Price Mr. Johnson, thanks. I'll be very brief. I just want to restate what Mr. Vaughan said this amendment does. 2 things really. >> Concurs with the findings of the Planning and Zoning Commission and then it makes an official finding of this body. And just I convened that it is consistent with the comprehensive plan period. Full stop. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, Mister Chair. I did want to follow-up. Just really briefly, maybe with Director bad. >> I remember when we passed the ordinance removing special limitations as a future tool. There was some conversation around. Could the planning department go through and potentially identify other special limitations? Sort of getting in the way of housing is not something that you guys are looking at or is that a future project that could be done? >> We have a comprehensive examination of the special to let limitations in existence in the fall. They are varied and unique. Each wine is its own little zoning district that we couldn't really find a comprehensive approach to removing any to rethink them masse. Really? So I can't answer your question in general or you know specific have detail. According to each special limitation. But unfortunately, there wasn't any identified pattern or a trend that we could just may be overturned. I'm not sure if that answers. You know, I think it does. >> And yeah, it's just it is interesting to think about. How unique. These have been applied to 2 uniquely. They've been applied to various properties throughout Anchorage. I also remember when we discussed them, you know, whether or not they should be at continue to be a policy tool. You know, the issue of spots sunny and came up and, you know, I I think that there's a lot of work on the assembly to to sort of try to simplify. Our zoning districts. And then he also. more broadly because I feel like this is consistent the R Assemblies housing action plan with the mayor's 10,000 homes in 10 years. Plan and also our com Planet 20 pretty land use plan. So. definitely looking forward to supporting this tonight. Thank Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Anyone else on amendment? Seen here in a member sexy the vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Yes, member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> And a vote of 12 to 0 in the youth a vote. that's just the amendment was due a vote of talks in the months. Yes, yes. So we're now back on the main motion as amended any further discussion. And none members may proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> And a vote of 12 jurors are in number of votes. 2026 to 17 as amended has passed the body. Next. We have item 14 F which 2026 Dash 19, an ordinance, Texas with some of many extra Chapter 3 90 access public records see section 3.30 dogs are 1, 6, personnel records. Update. The public records response procedures making corresponding change too. Repealing regulation 3 to 90 the extras. could regulations and money and C section 2.30, dot at 5 to update procedures for some of the access to information public hearing. This item is now open. Welcome, please. State your name a part of town. You're from left 3 minutes and the microphone is off. >> My name is Randal. So and I'm from to get-go River. Chair, constant members of the assembly. I appreciate the work that's gone into modernizing the public records ordinance and I support the goals of improving timelines and clarifying procedures. I want to fight several areas where the language may unintentionally weaken transparency and undermined the access. The public has to critical information on lina's cooperation. First, the definition of municipal agency should be clarified regarding the status publicly and corporations like the A C D a these entities managed public assets and public funds. They're not explicitly covered significant records related to public financing and development could outside disclosure requirements. Corporate structure should not determine alone whether the public has access to such critical information. Second, exclusion of proprietary software programs is overly broad. Almost all of the financial records as pioneer maintained an SAPD, which is a proprietary software. The public does not need access to the source code. In fact, the city does not have access to the source code, but they absolutely need access to the financial data stored in the systems. The ordinance should clearly state that data and standard reports generated from proprietary systems remain public records. The provision stating that the municipality does not have to compile or create new records could severely limit access to meaningful financial information for most individuals and modern government. Many records, existing structure data alone producing expenditure summaries, a vendor payment histories or departmental. Excuse me, Department Financial breakdowns requires running reports and the creation of a new record that should not be considered creating a new record when it comes to eligibility for public access, it should considered simply extracting the existing data. Finally, municipal business exception. The personal section seems misplaced internal access by employees or business agents is not necessarily the same as public disclosure and public record laws govern with the public can access, not the internal work flow needed for conducting operations. I urge the Assembly to clarify these provisions and ensure that modernization of the public records does not inadvertently narrow transparency. Thank you. Anyone else wish to be heard. none public hearing. The time is now closed. That's where the body. >> Move to approve. >> Moved from a summer second. I was probably a >> Transparency in local government one of the main issues, core issues that I campaigned on. I believe very important you know, keep government honest and it keeps that working for the people. So I was really excited, too work on this ordinance, which I believe. >> Will. >> Greatly facilitate public access to public records and some of the main ways that this ordinance does that by is by minimizing the fees for request to take under 3 hours. It adds timelines to that you can't just be delayed for ever and ever and makes the exemptions public records pretty narrow so that they can't be abused to withhold records from that public that actually are and should be public records. So pretty excited to have this before us tonight. And I ask that you please support it. Thank you. >> I myself in the queue, Mr. Constance, thank you. And I would offer just little bit more on the minimizing of fees. We do have an amendment that we're talking about moving that will address kind of one of the fees. We set up a baseline feet that individual pay to file its system in a mess like the tense and back on the feet just to make sure that they're going to come back for their records and we're going to do the work on their behalf. And also on the topic of setting timelines. That's really it one of the fundamental changes here is that it requires the regular production of records. If the request is very complex and it goes over months and months and months. It's not that you're going to be told when you get your notice that it's going to take months and months and then you don't hear anything. And then at the end of that time, they tell you, oh, it's going to take months and months more instead, there's a regular production schedule required, meaning as they start together the records, they provide the records and then. If they don't meet the deadlines, they continue to produce the records as they go. It also creates a streamlined appeals process to either whichever is the steward or the records. The mayor. Over executive branch in the Assembly maintains its position. The assembly branch for appeals. I would also note and I would love a knot of heads over from the administration that when we talk about a municipal agency that includes our subordinate and subsidiary organizations, including our Friends encourage community development authority or the Port of Alaska. Our other enterprise and utilities. Yeah, they're not doing so. For my purposes. Agency includes all of this does not create a loophole for them not to be incorporated. The one thing that we didn't do is dive into the Anchorage school district's policies. What we get instead of set the policy within this ordinance that the Anchorage school district must have a reasonable policy. And the reason we didn't do that is this project took 2 and a half years to get to you in the farm that it's in right now. And that was before we even met with the school district who operates on a different cycle in a different timeline of records. When a teacher is the possessor of the primary record and the teacher doesn't work for the school district from May through August. There's no way for the school district to provide the record. And so what we've done instead is request that the school district provides some meaningful. Process and I'm going to be corrected and this one person. >> I thank you, Mr. actually missed abuse as someone who you want be defined to. Most comment on this. But wow, what you said is correct. With respect Wu and the port of Alaska as Insta mentalities of the municipality does not expressly correct with respect to a CDA because of a carve out within the code that addresses a CDA. So I would defer Joe who has been our subject matter expert on this specific issue for further questions on that matter. But I just want to make sure that that's very clear on the record are not was an odd with a car with an exception and that that's clear before we go forward on issue. >> Fair enough. if the body has concerns about the nature of a then I think in the future after April 20th, you should take that up. so lastly, I would offer that. >> I actually there's 2 sections. relation to the testimony. We heard that we kept. Software and other proprietary elements of the software. And this has exemptions it. It does not include reports generated from the software. Those are public records using a CPS was testified. We get a monthly report from the Budget Management and budget team that are all exports of SEP. All of those reports are, in fact, produce a ball. And so it's the software that we're talking about those kind of things we don't generate software for the public to be able to read the source code into all of that stuff. And then finally, the internal access peace, which is the end. discussion about how the Assembly housing Authority as individual members to review records within certain constraints. It's not just brought an unfettered access because personal records, for example, or other confidential records they are inherently protected by the municipality. And so it might seem like a non sequitur to the question of the public records. We are not saying that those records become public records when an assembly member, 6, 2, access them in the course of their legislative business. And that isn't at all what's going on here. We are not creating the most public records. Instead, we're just making it explicitly clear the somebody does have the right with certain caveats to review FOX. So again, this is a project that started with an assault on myself during the previous administration it just grew and grew and grew and grew and its complex because the number one producer of records for the municipality is Anchorage Police Department. And so they have a lot of input in the process. Also with the expansion of the and a real-time policing and the license plate readers and all the cameras on all the intersections. There's a lot of conversation about. Are those public records and if so, what's potential of producing them? Because they're on pretty rigorous deletion schedules and it's a deep and involved conversation. The product that you see here is introduced by Silver's myself and the mayor and as a compromise project and is a good product. It's not a perfect product and anybody's perspective. But we will not let the victim of the perfect. So I urge your support and this boy, it is quite a project, Mr. Martin's, thank you. Chair. you raise 2 points that were identified by the public testimony that I think >> are important to just get a little additional clarification from either the sponsors or the administration. With respect to the AC. The a question and the the generation of the reports. It seems that there are these simple amendments potentially unless you're unless I'm misreading it to add additional language to clarify those particular spaces so that we don't have any misinterpretations. We're not we're not waiting for head nods. We kind of have the clarity that who's covered, even if their subordinates to us. And clarity of it. What does it take to do that? Is that an amendment? Is it a simple thing share you refer to after your departure date. Does that mean you perceive this is to be a difficult amendment? That would be the first part. So Joe could come on up. I would offer that this took 2 and a half years and every little turn to. Conversation took more time and more time. And so I would hesitate greatly to do anything quickly unlikely on the dice. And I would recommend and he brought kind of looks and changes other than what's for something that really is offending to take another project where people sit down and think it through because like I said, every single time we had a slight change. It was another week of conversation. month months. You're you're you're in so I hesitate to have any changes on the dice that are. Substantial. But Mrs threw the chair to member Martinez and see 25 35 0, 6, 0, C. >> This is ACA zone. Section of code says that they're not subject to title 3 unless otherwise provided in that section of code. So in my chain, that's been true since a CDA was established. So my understanding is that currently a city is not subject to chapter 3 DOT 90 are public records. Law. And so would not change that status quo. And then as to proprietary software that was copied wholesale from the longstanding Alaska Public Records Act and the administration of of that act in this context is very well established there should be any ambiguity as to the meaning of proprietary software. That definition so following. Thank you. Stay with me. But we can get clear in terms of more specific language eliminate any potential and ambiguity. Is that correct? You can always seek to amend a piece of legislation if the body will sit. I don't think it's necessary. Think the definition from state law that we're drawing on. That's been the definition for a long time is clear enough. And disrespectfully to my colleagues. If this project took 2 years to get this far and we still have a gap. With respect see being outside of a reporting requirement. I think that's a problem. And and so what I would hope is that there's a clarity to closing that gap. A commitment to closing that gap. And I just don't know of how we can from a commitment to closing a gap of when we vote on item. And so I would love to hear how we approached this. I don't want to do a floor amendment because I believe with Mr. Constance said I think these are more thoughtful and deliberative processes. That should be taken slowly, but that may Require a postponement from my vantage point. Less someone can give me a real clear understanding of. Of the reason that a CDA should be excluded. In the first place. As originally identified in the code or is that an area of code that just needs to be updated with a different project? So threw the chair to member Martinez section of what I'm looking at actually says that a CDA is exempted from titles. 3, 6, 7, I think the intent theirs to make a CD, a leaner, meaner, unable to engage sort of commercial activities that a typical governor organization would not be. So from my vantage point, I think there's a deeper project with respect to the transparency question that was raised from the public testimony. I don't necessarily see that as a pause tonight. I think that there's a distinction between the further investigation of that question because you identified more sections of code of title that they are exempt from and they may be some of the questions around transparency. And I think you've identified even the commercial aspect of their operations and there's some privacy to that that are maybe more thoughtful and sensitive types of questions. So I do want to respect that. I appreciated for being raised because I think that transparency, especially with respect to financial records and, you know, economic development are important. And then from the other vantage point, the proprietary prior to re stuff is at the heart amendment. To get clear tonight. Is it one sentence? I think it would depend on the legislative will that you're trying to effectuate know. I think that there's a longstanding definition in Alaska statute that says that, look, if we produce our own proprietary software and that software is not a record subject to disclosure, that's pretty clear. I think if you think it needs additional clarity you are, of course Friedhoff amendment. I just don't see the ambiguity to the result. I'll take your word for tonight and I thank you for approaching this. I'll keep my eyes on this conversation with you as well. Just to get a can. If there's any future. Bump in the road around any proprietary software that we are paying for, that we are subscribing to and the retrieval of any data that we are entitled to. That's that's going to be the flash point for a project. Thank you. Appreciate you. Clarification. We're not talking about the data that comes out of those proprietary software right because reports are generated its public. Correct. If there's a report that's generated using proprietary software, the report itself is a record under the plain meaning of the depression so record. It's literally talking about software built and developed. Just it's just oddity of the code. So. >> Pearson, you put yourself in the queue. Thank you. Mister Chair. >> I just want it to Tulare and 2 that Mister Deason said I would I don't know the full legislative history of where the reference came from to 10 to 3 6 20's title 7. But I have spent quite a bit of time looking at the use of community development, authorities and public authorities and other states and its not uncommon for this type of exceptions, specifically from public disclosure mean public records acts and also from procurement requirements, a 10 7 requirements to be something that has rolled into the creation of a public I-40 or community development authority to allow that kind of entity to have that kind of operational flexibility to do more elaborate business deals with 7 degree of kind of be to be able to handle more commercially sensitive information and get this kind of business deals. So I just want to say that does underscore the point that you made Martinez about this being potentially a different conversation that ends the conversations that might pertain to other instrument holidays of the municipality. So just wanted to add that to conversation. Thank you, Mr. >> Thank Yeah. First I did have a minor amendment but also say I really appreciate all of the work that went into this. Just haven't seen it from the outside and, yeah, I know this. This is one that does affect a lot of work load and so really making sure that we. That we get writer is best we can and that whatever we do is workable. I guess I'll say the one thing that I contemplated amendment on, but I want to express appreciation that it's already in there dealing with records requests regarding large amounts of video that is used for commercial I've had conversations with 2 different police chiefs on this item. I know there certainly, you TV shows streaming all of those things. No shade on those folks. But want to make sure that we are intentional. And to the extent that we can about how basically public records, but also really someone's worst day off they're interacting with police for various reasons is is not basically someone else's entertainment. I think that is a a line that the this community should consider. That said there are public records and so we don't control what happens with them. So I will say there's a section in there that addresses that I'm interested in a separate project that would have to do with potential contractual relationships with the Muni with 3rd parties like that, who would utilize the footage on a larger bases. But that is for another day. so I will instead moving much smaller amendment, which is broadly amendment one. >> Second motion to amend by member seconded by Mister front. >> Thanks. change is one word. Straightforward has nothing to do with what I just said. And that referring to substance misuse instead of substance abuse. Both of those term certainly are used in in the field. But there was a reference here that made that change. And so this is mostly for consistency existing policy. Thanks. >> Any discussion on the amendment. Any objection to amendment? much action will consider the amendment adopted. I'm back on the main >> Yeah. Would like to move at constant Silvers amendment number 2. >> Motion to amend by Servers. >> So there's 2 parts to this amendment. I see if Chris wants to speak to the first part. after I speak to the second part, which >> changing the fee. The agency may charge from $10 to $6 and that is currently what APD is. >> Charging and so with this ordinance, one of the things we put in here that I was very excited about is that for records requests to take under 3 hours. You are not paying the hourly seas. The only thing that in there is the administrative filing fee. And I think, you know, that is important because that does help prevent requests where people are just putting in request, but they don't really want the information. So anyhow, it kind of helps prevent that. I don't think that that you need to charge $10 to accomplish that, though. I think that if just stick with the $6 set, APD is currently charging that is sufficient. >> And I'll speak to the second part of the amendment on some think use or first part and the reverse so we spent a lot of time going over the topic of what happens with municipal security cameras in particular, inside of buildings where we don't actually want those records to be produced. Small ups monitoring people's movements within the building, things of that nature. But then there came a conversation. What if I want myself? Can I have a right to that? But then more so was along. The lines of this amendment tackles question one's property. If we make security cameras, not subject to disclosure, what happens in the parking lot of somebody. It's a car and then we have security cameras trained on it. But we have very black and white policy China be produced. This provides an opportunity that that footage could be produced. If it's your property or your lying or another scenario would be run a committee meeting and somebody has a peg stolen from them. And there's a camera trained on the place where the bag was. Why wouldn't we want to provide at least a minimum of production of if the record exists, the 2nd half of that first part there is if they'll make reasonable efforts because we have different tools but different. Retention schedule. Some that retain for 2 days, some for 14 days. Some that are on the machines on there on a server. And so it's tricky to come up with a one size fits all approach. That is the nature of the amendment. Those 2 parts reduction in the fields proposed. To make it more demand of us allowing the person to. Footage of their own property. If it's on a Muni security cam. Any further discussion on the amendment. Get your thoughts are Mr. Johnson, you're in the queue. >> Yeah, I think there might be 2 parts of this to looking at the change in the industry filing fee. Just make sure on the strictly saying the current fee 6 Then when I look at kind of the, you know, the fiscal impact of this, Loss of $36,000 in revenue, that would be a loss of $36,000 currently collecting stars what the is already. Right. It would be $36,000 in potential additional revenue in my column this correctly. >> Speak to the mic from the source. >> Yes, that is correct. And I mean, I think that that number probably isn't really accurate either because I think. How many public records request that you have received doesn't necessarily mean how many people have followed through and paid for those. So it's, you know, it's what you could possibly lose. But I don't believe there's a lot of accuracy in that. Thank you. >> And I will Michelle good to I would offer the purpose of the fee was never about revenue. Right? That's a secondary impact of the for for where we are as the sponsors and the conversation about applying this across the board. We did 2 things we provided that the first 3 hours are free. Minus the small upfront fee. That's noon. So there's a reduction in revenue based on the shift in the policy from you get one hour free. And if it's more than an hour, you pay $40 an hour. So there's where the main shift in revenues comes from the purpose of the fee it's like that $0.10 fee on a bag just to dissuade people from making nuisance requests. They better mean it. If they want it, they should come in. It's just along those lines of. Skin in the game I think was the term that had been circulating a little bit. And so anyhow. So the revenue piece, a secondary inside part in my opinion. Now, I know you want to hear from the oven. So you have the floor. >> Yes, yes, area. I think question to the administration that you mentioned, this was a collaborative project between family members in the administration. So just like to hear they have any comments on this proposed amendment said, you know, $10 was out that big serve intentionally settled on and whether or not there any concerns about topping this amendment. >> Thank you so I think that is fair. What member Silver said that it is difficult to estimate the actual amount of extra room revenue that would be for gone by ratcheting down that $10 filing fee to the $6 level. If you look at 2024 numbers, my best understanding is there might have been 9,000 give or take public records request across the municipality. If every single one of those people had been charged, a minimum filing fee of $10 get a certain amount of revenue. If you ratchet down to $6, then it's all potential loss of up to $36,000. But as member Silvers mentioned, there's a hair inherent uncertainty and that estimate, right training number of different reasons. It's not a potential loss. It's a potential decrease of the night. We would have gained otherwise right from going up from 10 to 6. It's important will discuss tournament. There's not a loss of revenue. It's a it's something slightly different. And the other thing just to point out is that APD. a matter of practice, been charging at least $6 to process any public records request for quite some time. So the $6 level would track current practice at the agency that receives by far the lion's share of all public records requests. Mr. Johnson. >> Ok, we'll just make sure upon this currently does not sound like the administration is concerned about this. This amendment and of all critically would generally be supportive. >> Or neutral site through the chair to member John says just walking back up to the podium, I apologize. administration doesn't object to the amendment. >> That altered. Thank you. >> I would just offer that nothing came easy. And this conversation every single word was stretched to thinnest possible. Element to get to where we are This is a true compromise. Exceptionally well done project from that perspective, anyone else on the amendment. All right. You know, if you can tease word, really, really, really, really thin this project. members may proceed to vote on the amendment. >> Remember, Myers? Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> On the amendment vote of 12 to Yes, yes. the passed. For now, back on the main motion as amended. I will speak. Then it is anyone else. I don't see or hear anyone I want to think a lot of people. I want to thank the mayor for the leadership on the question on the other side. think the attorneys who work for the assembly who sat through this project, innovation after innovation after innovation. want to thank the attorneys on the 7th floor who came to the project. Well underway when they came into office in the project was working in the challenge that it had to keep the fire burning us. All kinds of priorities were happening across the municipality. Well, I think our outside counsel for Mel B p her spent a lot of time working drafting and kind of teasing out the various new wants us to the question. mistletoe who I started this project with in 2024, she was a key initiator of the project and the work that we did back then helped us to get here tonight. Now. I think to. Mr. Martinez. Question about how do we get it better in the future? Members have the right to bring it forward and this is the first major, major update of this code section in a very long time. And hopefully a major major update isn't necessary anytime in the near future. But you should always keep your eye on the process of producing records for the public because apparently these records are there's hours all of ours as a community. And so in the spirit of producing to the public that which they're owed and doing it in a manner that is not as efficient as possible with the municipal resources that we have, which mostly our staff. Get stretched real fan. This is a really good product and urge your support. There's no know members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member of ERA. >> On a vote of 11 to one in the youth number of votes. Yes, 2026 dash 19 as amended has passed a body which brings us to our last item of the night. Tonight 14 gl 2026 to 16 and ordinance. The Anchorage Assembly amending and will code title 11 Section 14 16. 0, 3, 0, and code regulations. Chapter 11.10 regarding vehicle for hire requirements, conform code with best practice state law and remove of sleep requirements encourage compliance. And increase safety and to lower costs. There's also an a** of version public hearings item the snow Open. Welcome. Please. Come forward. State. Your name a part of 10 from you'll have 3 minutes. >> Good evening. My name William Burck. I live in Assembly district 4. I'm also the chair for the Acreage Transportation Commission here to testify on behalf of the commission. The Anchorage Transportation Commission has been working on updating Anchorage Municipal Code title 11 and this process. The commission is work with the TBI Division as well as numerous stakeholders in the industry. The stakeholders include the municipal attorneys office permit owners, business owners dispatch companies. Vehicles for hire show for drivers and the general public actually held 6 public meetings here at the Loussac Library. Over the course of these multiple public meetings we gathered put and had extensive discussions which were help. Through this process. This ordinance was drafted as a result. There was a majority support for the changes and additions in the ordinance by the stakeholders and unanimous approval by the increased Transportation Commission. We believe these updates. Well, the efficiency of the industry and improve safety for all involved. Some of the highlights include updating the smart taxi meters. Which is projected to reduce costs at all levels as well as provide enhanced operational features, aligning code to the industry. Nti Division needs updating and clarifying the code increasing fair rates which haven't been done a long time. And they're at the current maximum of $3 and then swift during force meant to encourage better compliance. The only major request that was not approved was the request to deregulate the vehicle for hire tourism, subgroup and transfer oversight to the U.S. dot. After research in public testimony, it was determined that would provide the public safety and security necessary. One of the reasons why is U.S. dot supervision is not focused on the size vehicle. It does not ensure renewal vehicle inspections show for criminal history, background and driving record checks and vehicle accident repair tracking since the DOT is focused on larger vehicles. It could be many years before the encounter. One of these 15 passenger less pans. Amc title 11 offer safety and oversight to the size vehicles. One thing we wanted to look out was the DOT annual inspections. There's a couple different things that vary from the DOT annual inspection to the one that's in Title 11. Some of those are accessible and operational seatbelts. That's not a dot inspection. Doors. Latching easily closing the interior of the vehicle to be clean of good repair and free from broken seats. All wire connections located out of the way the passengers, a functioning warranty, frosty and heating systems, operational. Thank you, sir. don't see any questions anyone else wish to be heard. You can leave it it all please come forward. If you're going to testify, please come forward, come please take them apart. from have 3 minutes. >> Mark Perry District 5 East Anchorage. I have known this especially taxi industry for over 20 years. First as a dispatcher and then also. advocating for the cab drivers. One of the things that has been lacking. That I've noticed is been the regulation of the dispatch companies like, for instance, dispatch company could easily tell. Tell us, tell the cab owners, well, we're going to raise your stand rant. And there's no oversight on on that sort of thing. And and there's no whether they had it performed the quality of service to deserve that stand. What rent increase or not. the other the other issue. And I noticed it in here and 2015, we try regulate. I believe it was the teen seas. The wilber's in the less and then the state went in and said, no, you can't do that. So and I notice that was back in your again. is there a way that we can somehow get the state? you need to agree? The other thing that needs to happen is with the the chauffeurs license up. Renewals. They should be at the same time as the driver's license renewals. So therefore, it should be like on the day of birth of the show for. Which is how the DMV its head of just any day out there. the other thing that that also needs to happen is. The dispatch staff should also. Be able to. In a way cooperate with the drivers. And not have the dispatch be the god of the drivers. And that was what the prop some of the problem was in the past. Is the dispatch needs to work with the drivers. ♪ >> All right. Anyone else wish to be heard. Please state your name a part of town or from you'll have 3 minutes. >> Thank you, Mr. Cherry Karl Johnson live in San Lake District 3. I am one of those tour company owners that operation of a vehicle for hire permits and title 11. We first introduced a memo to the assembly back in October of 2024. actually had 2 recommendations, not a complete a girly deregulation of tourism and handing it over to us dot. And actually an acknowledgement that some of us are in fact, currently regulated by U.S. dot, which mandates. Us dot compliance for any vehicles that are 9 to 15 seats for passengers and operate in interstate commerce, which here if your tour operator, he's going to include picking up that the port of Alaska Whittier Seward and also at the airport. So already regulated. But also recognizing that some tour companies aren't so regulated. We recommended a separate kind of a carve out with in total 11 to set aside tour operators while still being regulated. But recognizing that they are providing a direct Pastor Service. Like other vehicle for hire Permittees are. So those who were both presented to the commission, the only one that the commission discussed in full was the U.S. DOT exemption. Now just to make it clear for the record, though. Proposal also suggested that. In order to gain the exemption, we would have to form of whatever the transportation inspection would create. Provide an annual show of compliance with us dot in order to gain the exemption. Which would show that we're complying with certain provisions of DOT requirements, which include. Marking vehicles with course, numbering maintaining an accident register for up to 3 years and or reporting accidents, depending on the severity of the accident. Complying the prohibitions against texting while driving and handheld use of a cell phone maintaining auto insurance and conducting the annual inspection. That was rejected. The other parts of the proposal included things that are very important to tour operators, which is reduction of the permit fees. Right now based on 2022. Numbers provided by transportation specs average cost per out of a taxi is $0.26 per permit. Whereas taking my company has an average. That's $27. R excuse me. $0.26 per run of a taxi. Compared to $27 per Ron of a tour up 2 vehicle. So it's 100 times more expensive perren. So our goal was also to reduce not only a permit fee how the permits are assigned one permit company and then dieckhaus for each vehicle. $300 per year $100 for 6 months. Pay. And I see that my time is concluded. So thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thanks or anyone else wish to hear. >> Please come forward. Welcome. Please. Take your hand have 3 minutes. >> Thank you, Michelle Turner. in Sand Lake District. 3. I want to talk. I'm also a tour operator And I want to talk a little bit about record new requirements for maintaining records. A lot of these requirements are inconsistent with how to operate are up manages or operates their business. We do not maintain information yet vehicle, it's floor for her. To our or operation. It's very difficult for us to do things like identify exactly who. What passengers our customers. We pick up at a particular spot and when we drop them off this specific dates at the specific times because we might have, you know, 10 people. 5 or 6 different parties that were picking up that multiple different locations. And then dropping them back off at those same locations. Maybe not in the same order. Another requirement would be to identify it specific people who took. >> The >> who took the reservation or who checked checked in who made the reservation. That's difficult to do when you're using a system like if I Get your guide. A website or for use in the secondary provider like very tourist to procure to put that My recommendation is that because so much of this is inconsistent with how so much of this proposal is inconsistent with how 2 operators actually manage their businesses that this portion be pulled out and be reviewed for. and have some sort of working group or discussion with tour operators to make sure that >> the >> ordinance has adopted is consistent with how operations are performed and something that we can legitimately comply with. Thank you. >> And to be heard on this item. And on and off. none public hearings now close what's called a body. >> Moved to Perth. >> Second, of the most probably say I'm I'm a strong problem. >> Yeah, I I appreciate the. There's been a lot of discussion about this ordinance. I have a couple amendments that I'd like to move in. I know they just got passed out, but I can speak to them. Some going to move probably amendment one second. >> Motion to amend Probably second in my much more on this problem. >> Yeah, thank you. So this one is essentially I guess so what we've heard and I appreciate the commission's, you know, taking up this discussion and I know there was. We spent a lot of time really talking about it. But the idea is that there seems to still be something within this vehicle for hire. Category where there's a lot of different businesses. We heard from tourism operators. We know non-emergency medical transport. There's a number of of of different ones. But but specifically for tourism operators, I think they've raised some valid points. I also think in order to really dig into that and look at that broad category, what's in it and come up with maybe some categories or some other kind of of regulation scheme versus just deregulating, I think would take more time. So this would essentially require the divisions of the staff to produce a report not meeting a lengthy report that really if counting of the current vehicle for hire permit holders so business name, it lists off not individual drivers. The intent is not to publish a bunch of him ploy ease or individual names, but really to say who is operating in this space? What do they look like? And what are the variety of actual operations that we're talking about? Because it is a broad category. I will also note that there's been discussion and I know we have some information from our attorneys regarding courtesy vehicles, which carved out. So also wanting to understand that those are currently regulated. So they're not mentioned here. But there's another kind of category of folks that are driving vans around or people in advance for various reasons. So anyway, all that to say, I think this is really a future project because I do believe that most of the other changes in here are valid and timely. This would essentially require that reporting and then at that time would serve really as the basis for a future project to dig into this further. So so that's simply what this does. And then also know it did mentions relevant information such as violations. As for example, if we see a number of providers getting violations commonly for the same thing. That's one thing. If we see one or 2 violator, you know, operators who work are constantly violating, that's also a useful information. So that's the types of things contemplates. Thanks. >> Member Summers on the amendment. >> Do require this kind report or information on any business category. >> I can offer that we do get regular reports on any number of different license operations, mostly marijuana alcohol. I would know there's a bit of a scrivener's error. I think the word by after the I probably extraneous. >> Yes, thank you. That is a scrivener's error that identify fact that in the amendment Mr. say specifically the one that's after. That's why after >> Mr. thank you, Mr. remember, Ali just mentioned in your we're just speaking that this might be a future projects. Look at car bounces or rush that I'm missing for. Why we have to pass right now is there's there's some for it timeline the while we can't maybe postpone this and then really fully explore potential tourism carve outs before we of 4 passes tonight. >> Yeah, and I can speaking on return to the administration. My intent would be, of course, one. I don't know if I'm here after April or not. I can't speak to the underlying items, urgency or what that timeline should be. The reason that I would propose to look at it here, regardless, whether it's me or someone else, it's getting published on the agenda. So public information is that by the middle of August, I would presume all seasonal operators have a applied for that year. So it's of more fulsome list. And then in terms of holding the rest of the ordinance, I believe. Personally that a bunch of the other changes seem to be timely. You know, we're out of step with state law, cetera. And so that's why I would look at this is a separate projects, but I would I would ask administration to speak to because there really their ordinance. >> Thank you. And to to face rally. That's correct. There are a number of pieces in set are things that we've changes we've needed to make to align with state law. There are some changes we'd like to make to again push for modernization in the industry. Purely practically speaking, this is a big complex title rewrite. And it's hard to do those traveling onboarding of of a significant number of new members of the body. So this will if we if this conversation extends past the election, it will manatees be delayed by another month or so is our hope had been to be able to get through the full real right in conversation. Ms this body prior to the seating of the new Assembly. It's not the end of the world if that doesn't happen. But we had times the introduction of this ordinance hoping that there was enough time to discuss the bulk of the issues that we're in this title. 11, be right with this body is currently comprised because we know that there's there's every sitting of new members to take some time for is to get up to speed on things like this is I mean, there's provide the work session. There's complexity to what is a taxi meter and what is a smart taxi meter and why does it matter? So that would simply can not the end of the world. Better hope had been that we could get to bulk of the many changes that are in this complex title. Rewrite. So I think we would respectfully ask that if there's a single issue that requires a time horizon that stretches out until August or September or and merits that kind of deep dive into data, it would be preferable to address that separately from the large number of other issues that are contained in the comprehensive rewrite of the chapter. Thank you. >> Thank you chair. So just just to clarify than the really the the real big thing here, Sir, practical matter, we're gonna have a bunch. it might not have a bunch of new people in April. And so it was one haven't done before then which as a relatively new member myself, I can I can certainly agree with that assessment that it's a bit of it during fire hydrant. But if we well, if we waited on the overall package here until closer to the election to relieve bias, but unlike 6 weeks explore the tourism aspect a little bit more fully, would that be enough time to do that? We're going to take it all up to one so that we don't have the sector of the industry a little bit weird spot way in for us too. You know, come back to them. >> I think it depends on what the body is looking for, by way of additional information to further consider the issue. If so, it depends kind of the extent of data information about permit holders. I know based Raleigh is a request includes things like I number of violations over a period of Could pencil get 10 subway looking foreigner to be able to make that policy choice? Practically speaking taking another month to get through the approval of the ordinance is is is feasible. Absolutely from reset again, our preference is just hopefully ticket through this before we have it faced with this current body comprised but it depend in terms of whether that sufficient time to adequately consider the question of whether changes to the regulatory structure governing tourism operators are merited at this time. That's really a question for all of you in terms of what kind of information you need or want to consider before thinking about that kind of change. >> Okay. So administration want to be opposed if it were to be postponed a little bit. Laura, here. >> No, we wait. We would not be opposed to I-2, I have an extension of a meeting or 2 are potentially enter now. To April. >> Thank Mr. Chance of maybe a point of information. What I make that motion, we get back to the main motion off of this Ok? Thank you. So I have myself in the queue is constant thing. So I just want to speak briefly to that. The issue that is product by Mr. Johnson and their team in the tourist industry is important, but it's like the smallest summer of this overall project. It is something that I do believe warrants close review and analysis. But I think that the elements within this project that our at the core of it, which are the shift to the new meters allowance. More importantly of. Dispatch companies to work with a fee structures that are important to the drivers. Probably even more paramount and time sensitive because every day you're not making the money, you could be earning you're making less. Because we're waiting. Keeps them down in a way that is pretty meaningful in concrete of a heart. Right. And so I think that. For myself in contemplating whether to move forward. I think what most probably is proposing here by this amendment is Do some data gathering which provides policymakers meaningful data by which to make that decision, which won't be available. April or March. just no way to get meaningful data. We have a very clear position that's stated. And I think logically it makes sense the folks who are going on photo tours are not the same as people who are being picked up from the airport and taken to their hotel or to alyeska to stay for the weekend on a short-term drive. And so it just feels like if we delay all the good things that commission and all the parties worked on gets held back and it pushes out that scenario too much further down time because it takes time to implement the sense that doesn't go into effect until 120 days after. And so the entire tour season is over. By the time the folks who are driving cabs get the benefit of the elements that are within this. If we wait but nothing we're going to do is going to change the scenario for Mr. Johnson or the Tour drivers, even if we pass this now because that end of the season is going to be here before. I mean, they're already doing bookings for the year. So in some ways, it's a last question for 2020 sex. And so, but it's not for the drivers on a daily who are making their fares, which are paying their mortgages. And so there's a lot that argues to proceed to take this amendment that he's here before us and work with it. And the second one that kind of gifts, the inspectors, some flexibility working with the folks who are doing this work where they can find places that don't make sense. And so I would suggest that most sensible plan is to adopt the item and then do pick up a new project in the new project. Looks at that. Very carefully. And I think in the work session we had on Friday, there was another kind of area that I think this body needs to contemplate, which again, going to take amount of time, which is looking closely at the surge pricing question and why we have restricted because of consumer protection. The cab drivers from participating in the market that has shifted and why are we not allowing them to have more flexibility? But again? When it came to revelation on Friday that this was a scenario that is kind of boxed out for them. There's no way we're fixing this and this project because that requires a whole other set of analysys. Really should be done meaningful and softly and reviewed by all the committees and go through all those processes. Not just us make up our mind and soul. If I were to summarize all that into a simple sentence, this amendment provides the data which will be on the Macomb meaningfully educated decision on in sometime in the not too distant future. After the summer tourist season. When we have real. Information. So I'm supportive of the amendment. I don't think I'll be supportive of a postponement and I believe members really should pick up this question as the project. Thank Spry. >> Thanks Just to add one more point. So when I spoke to Texan Mr, Johnson earlier today, one of the desires that he mentioned, at least for his company and probably others as well as really more engagement with that sector. And I think that cannot just realistic way. It's not going to be accomplished in 3 to 4 weeks with the time to draft an ordinance and to really has these things out because clearly there's been a lot of discussion about this and there's nuance and there's other pieces and wanting to involve staff as well. So I just think like for for what my understanding, at least the folks who have been represented in the communications we've gotten their intent is to discuss and have more process and have more involvement because I think they're not just simply looking to be carved out with no discussion. And so that's again, why sink having that information and then building in the time to do this project and we've done other, I guess. Covid rewrites. Maybe not since some members have joined, we changed the alcohol codes and we still separately took up the question of brunch hours an example. And so it is certainly possible it's actually sometimes preferable to set aside a large policy item that needs a lot of discussion from what in most cases here is really clean up in modernization for the industry. Thanks. And also amendment. >> Amendment. So first members proceed to vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. member Rivera. >> Vote of 11 to and the youth member votes. Yes, yes. The amendment costs. That's probably the clerk wanted me to clarify, believes intend to move this for him. >> Yes, thank you. Move the U.S. version. These amendments are to the U.S. you. probably a floor. Thank of my Second Amendment Amendment. Number 2. >> Motion to amend pilots. Probably seconded by Mister Vaughn. >> Thank This one actually, I believe Mister spoke to this earlier. Really the question about record keeping There's as we said, a number of businesses that are considered vehicle for hire, but they have very different business models and they do not neatly fit in what you would think of as a limousine or a taxi or something where you have someone being picked up a point. dropped off a point B, usually a single individual or one party. So this is something that would allow for the transportation inspector to have some flexibility. I modeled this somewhat on zoning, which is not always a good idea. But but in this case was the idea of alternative equivalent compliance where where if something is not practical to be done exactly to the letter of the law, there should be other ways to achieve that same that same goal without again, just saying you're not subject to those requirements. So this allows for and that's really not a decision that that we have time to make here today. And I think it should be considered for different sectors of vehicle for hire. So this would allow staff to basically develop guidance. Here is the requirements that you that you should meet for your business model. And if they are somewhat separate from those that tax season and similar are subject to. But still in the same ballpark that that would be allowed. So there's a couple examples described in the amendment, but non-emergency medical transport looks different than a taxi. So does tourism Rader. So does a number of these other businesses that time. Again involved vehicles that are very different business models. also amendment. >> none members may proceed to vote. Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 that amendment and the number of votes. Yes, yes. minutes past. We're back in the main motion as amended. Seen here members vote. >> Member Myers. Member Baldwin Day. Member Johnson. Member Rivera. >> On a vote of 12 to 0 in the member votes. Yes, 2026 16 S as amended has passed a body which concludes our business agenda tonight. We'll now move on to audience participation. We have a couple of folks who signed up to speak on the phone. We start with. Mr. Pennington. He just sent us like. try one more time. >> All >> right. Can we go ahead and call the second individual? >> college been forwarded to an automatic voice message. >> We tried the first one again time. >> the number you >> We tried the second 1, one more time. We did our due diligence. >> Your college been forwarded to okay. That's it. Anyone else in the room was to be Hurns and pretty special. Welcome. Please come. >> State your name. A part of town from left 3 minutes. >> My name is Mary Sanchez and I work for goodwill. I work for the job connections program. Goodwill's mission is to provide vocational opportunities to individuals with barriers, to employment at the heart of our organization are the individuals we employ and serve. And we believe that meaningful training and employment have the power to change lives, expand opportunities and create lasting community impact our job connections services are open to the public and include job search assistance, employment work forest workshops, job leads. Computer access, job fairs and referrals to goodwill programs and community partners. As an employment specialist, I worked closely with job seekers to provide encouragement, connect them with community resources and support them throughout their employment journey. One of the most significant barriers our clients face is transportation to address this. We currently provide bus passes at no cost to individuals who need reliable transportation to attend job fairs, interviews, training and work. However, we are required to purchase these passes at full price, which places a substantial strain on our operating budget and limits the number of individuals we can support. I'm here to advocate for the availability of free or reduced cost bus passes for nonprofit organizations such as ours. Access to affordable transportation is critical for job seekers to obtain and maintain employment reduce transit costs would allow us to serve more individuals will ensuring that transportation is not the deciding factor between employment and continued our chip. Thank you for your time and consideration of this important matter. I appreciate your commitment to supporting workforce development and removing barriers to employment in our community. >> Welcome, please. State your name. A part of town or from you'll have 3 minutes. >> I'm Liam Backstrom from Fairview and I went out to >> to a mat-su. Career tech for FFA. >> it was really good. And they have a really good. >> Ffa program chapter there. And then I went to couple weeks car went out to a a high school junior high rodeo. have rodeo Naidoo what they are. I really like FFA. One of the things is when I was a what was I was multilevel marketing and one problems like didn't and one of multilevel working as line is I didn't sell so book some tape like motivational tapes. Stuff like that. And families really big on that on and way ahead. They have they're different organization like that route. 21 will ride around builders and stuff like that. FFA, it's kind like the same way they really work on a leadership. but one of the things I I always listen to, I never really Starr. I mean, I've stopped and have that. But now I'm back on. Listen to like, like John Maxwell. They alert all motivational speakers. A lot of them are Christians Christian background and stuff like that. for we get into big leadership and that most your big leaders listen to tapes like that day. I mean, another city he when he was a, but he was let tape all the time and like a lot of times a and way. Mary Kay, they teach you Larson saying that a lot of lot of good leaders come out of Amway and stuff like that. And he's multilevel marketing companies. I think sometimes the multilevel work. Hartman, multi lower marker, Chris has some of the best leadership programs for even for multilevel marketing for leaders. A lot of people were in the Amway and that multiple came out of it. I really like FFA and I like for each lot. But I but I'm just doing my best to try to get in the disk for schools right now we have we're getting. We've got a couple I think we got about 4 chapters here in Anchorage. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Welcome. Please. Come forward State. Your name a part-owner from. You'll have 3 minutes. >> Jaime Lopez, the secrets from the Coalition for the Homeless. So mostly in prepared remarks today. 36 hours pretty much without sleep. missing second talk about mind here. You know where we go from here? No good deed goes unpunished. Yesterday was taking out 5 cases of food in Now 30 am. 11:30PM, and then leaving an area literally take a left hand turn Please stop me for illegal walking on a road in the middle of a neighborhood. You know, I don't think they do that on the South side to people that they're walking their dogs kids playing in the road, but he did to me and then they did other people and clearly the sidewalks for full of snow. But, you know, they still wrote to take it you want to know why people don't like police because things like this. So where else do we go from here? Apparently more. And some of you guys and even some within the industry currently, Alex Soto has shoes. They're not passing out bus passes there. They're not passing a passes over at the shelters there out of them. People jobs can't get to places are losing their jobs. And then there's a I have to save something for Damar. so. >> We're gonna go from I don't know. Hopefully keeping you entertained. know you're acknowledging certain things, but you know. >> There's other 6 shoot where going. This. I don't know. Also for tomorrow, my mind is not here today and you to get sleep. And so. One thing I will say is there's somebody westbound the right now try to bring to the attention of somebody last month and they have a spouse with seizures and literally. Nobody reached aren't. And you wonder why people check out of the system. It's because they're not getting help. So thank you very much for time. >> Anyone else wish to be heard. Welcome, please. State your name a part of town. You're from. You'll have 3 minutes. Thanks for hustling. >> I'm Sofia annual and I resigned in Eagle River. There's 2 things I'd like to comment Not enough speak for a long time. One. It was brought up about. Police video. Law enforcement video. And being. A television show or ♪ so. I am having trouble pursing little bit. Here's the same. And maybe someone's worst moment. But when it's done and not It starts with television. It's also down on the Internet. It's also done by people's personal cameras. Show. And sometimes news feeds. That enable public to see. Law enforcement has to deal with. The point is deterrence. point is to educate. Is to say. You do this. These are the consequences. I just wanted to say that. The other thing and I hope all of you, my take a genuine interest to perhaps look into. The real ID. The real lady requires. You know, multiple forms of identification. wholly agree with that. But why? Just the PFT? Not just accept the real ID as illegitimate. Form of identification. They want. Your Social Security card certificate. Copies. Well, a regionals to make copies. Just a bit curious about that because the real ad is both for many is both federal and state. It's not cheap. And there's a number of people distances can be kind of impediment for people moving forward can definitely see that. I just want to state that be attending. But these are just socks and sings to think about. And perhaps into. Thank you for your time. Thank >> Also wish to beer. Seeing none. We'll start with. Member comments, Mr. Pressure. No comments. Thank you. Have a good night, everyone. A chair. Thank you, Mr. Rivera. Thank you to comment in summers. >> No comments. Thank you, Mr. Vaughan, no comments. Thank Sharon had no comment. Mr. Johnson. >> How common Share? Thank you. It's day. >> Have a great night. Everybody. >> Martinez. Rest in power. Reverend Jesse Jackson. No comments. Thank you. And Mister Myers. >> No additional comment. >> All right. Thank you, We paid our dues last meeting. We are now adjourned. Thank you all. >> are you cross No brakes no man to 3 times okay here in our I and hear me. we was things following the >> sign. ♪ I can't easy. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪