Good evening. Welcome to the August 4th City of Plano Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. I call the meeting to order at 6:00 pm. If you'd all please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag. United States of and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. All right. Comments of public interest. There are none. No speakers tonight. All right. Consent agenda. Consent agenda. The consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion and typically, and contains items that are routine and typically noncontroversial. Items may be removed from this agenda for individual consideration by commissioners or staff. Commissioners. Would anybody like to remove an item from the consent agenda? Commissioner Lingenfelter? I just move that we approve the consent agenda as recommended by Staff Commissioner Bronsky second. We have a motion and a second. Please vote. Motion is approved. 8 to 0. Items for individual consideration. Items for individual consideration. Public hearing items unless otherwise instructed by the chair. Speakers will be called in the order registrations are received. Applicants are limited to a total of 15 minutes of presentation time, with a five minute rebuttal if needed. Remaining speakers are limited to 30 total minutes of testimony time, with three minutes assigned per speaker. The presiding officer may modify these times as deemed necessary. Administrative consideration items must be approved if they meet city development regulations. Legislative consideration items are more discretionary except as constrained by legal considerations. Agenda item number one. Grace community Church. Block a lot one public school on one. Lot on 10.8 acres. Located at the northwest corner of Hedgcoxe Road and Preston Meadow Drive. Zoned planned development for 39 single family residence seven and single family residence six with specific use. Permit number 193 for daycare center. The applicant is Basis Texas Charter Schools Incorporated. This item is a request to table to the August 18th, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Good evening commissioners. My name is Donna Sepulvado, lead planner with the Planning Department. Due to a noticing error, staff is requesting that this replat be tabled to the August 18th, 2025 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting and we are confident they are ready for that meeting. And I'm happy to answer any questions. Commissioner Bruno, question for staff. Oh, no. I was ready to make a motion. No question. Okay, let's make sure there's no other questions. Anybody have any questions for staff? No. Okay. We do have I'm sorry. We do have a public hearing. Open. Open the public hearing. Open the public hearing. Do we have any speakers for the public hearing? There are no registered speakers. Then I'll close the public hearing now. Commissioner Brounoff, thank you. I move that item number one be tabled to the August 18th, 2025 Commission meeting to allow the replat to be properly re noticed as recommended by Staff Commissioner Lingenfelter. I'll second. All right. We have a motion in a second. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0 Commission. With your indulgence, I'd like to move the non public hearing item number three ahead of item number two. Just out of respect for anybody that may be here for item three, because I think item 2nd May take more than a couple of minutes. So if we could read the non public hearing item number three please. Non public hearing items, the presiding officer will permit limited public comment for items on the agenda not posted for a public hearing. The presiding Officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests, length of the agenda and to insure meeting efficiency, and may include a total time limit. Agenda item number three A request to waive the two year waiting period for consideration to amend urban mixed use two on 86.2 acres located on the west side of State Road, 970ft, north of Mapleshade Lane. Zoned urban mixed use two and located within the 190 Tollway Plano Parkway Overlay District. The applicant is Billingslea Company. This item is for legislative consideration. Good evening commissioners. My name is Caroline Stewart. I'm a planner with the planning department. The applicant is requesting to waive the two year waiting period for consideration to amend the urban mixed use two district to allow a veterinary clinic as a permitted use within the Mu2 district. A veterinary clinic is currently not permitted within the urban mixed use two district, and a zoning change is required to allow the use. The Umu district was most recently amended on October 28th, 2024, in order to modify phasing and development standards. A zoning ordinance requires a two year waiting period for successive applications. Following approval of the zoning case. The two year waiting period for this property will end on October 28th, 2026. The zoning ordinance allows for the waiver of the two year waiting period if the Commission determines that there are substantive reasons shown on the screen, the applicant is requesting a waiver due to the interest from a prospective tenant in a leasing space within an existing retail building. The condition was unknown at the time of the previous zoning case in 2024. Staff is supportive of the request to waive the two year waiting period and recommends approval, and I'm available for any questions that you may have. Thank you. So just to be clear, what we're what we have in front of us tonight is just a vote to waive the two year waiting period. We're not discussing the actual use that is going to come to us at a future meeting. Is that correct? Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Any questions for staff, Commissioner Bruno? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Does the request to amend the Umu district pertain only to this particular property, or does it seek to amend the Umu ordinance citywide to allow this additional use? I believe that it's just for this property. But, Mr. Bell, did you want to add anything? That's right. The umu district. Umu two district is specific to the Beacon Square development, so it will not affect the umu as a base at all. Thank you. Commissioner Ali. Just one. So it looks like we are stating this additional use as a change of conditions. That doesn't strike me as the quite how we have looked at change of conditions in the past. Can you help elaborate on why is an additional use that was not necessarily the use intended in the first place? Why would that qualify as a change of conditions? I can help with that. I think the idea with this is we're not going back and revisiting what was considered in the last zoning case that was specific to signage and some phasing standards. This is totally unrelated to the previous request and the prospective tenant that they've got now for this vet clinic was not in the picture at the time. So it's a change of conditions from the previous time the zoning case was considered last year. Okay. So the baseline is the previous time the zoning case was. Okay. Thank you. All right. Any other questions, Commissioner Bronsky? So as I look at the timeline, this is coming up. And so walk me through this. If we approve this tonight, then they have the ability to submit a new case, correct a zoning case. Yes, sir. Okay. And that normally has a process that you guys work through. And so I guess my biggest question, although I agree with the theory behind the waiver because I do think it's a change of condition that is representative. My question is with the time with the timeline, did I maybe I misread it? Was it 2025 or 2026? In October October 28th, 2026? Okay, so then that doesn't I can't. For some reason I thought I was seeing 25. So no, I think that this does represent a sensible change in condition in the availability for this tenant. And if the city staff doesn't think that the allowing this use would be detrimental in any way to the community itself in this area, which I'm guessing since you're recommending approval of it, you guys don't see any problems with the change itself. I just want to be clear, we have not received a petition, so staff has not provided any analysis on that at this time. But we do think it meets the conditions for the two year waiver. And that's why we're recommending approval. Okay. Yeah I'm good. Thank you, Commissioner Tom. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a general question. So my understanding is this is a new development. And when they develop, they started sending leases to tenants. Right. So this is kind of common in a lot of development development sites. And when they signed the leases, wouldn't the tenant apply for a special either special use or zoning changes when they move in or when they build out, instead of changing the zoning of the entire development site? So this is something just a general how how does it work in general? So the specific use permit is a zoning change. It requires the property owner's authorization to do so. We imagine that the scope of this change will be limited to just the one block where they're asking for the veterinary clinic, not the entire district as a whole. But when we bring that back, it'll be it'll be written in a way that it's very narrowly tailored, so that this change only applies in this one block, in this entire development. But why? Why would that be part of the two year restriction? Because I feel like this is a different zoning case from the original one, right? Because this is specifically for one tenant, not for the entire development. Would that be considered a separate issue? This is like a plan development, and that it has a specialized list of what's allowed and what's not allowed. So this request is to amend that list and add veterinary clinic to the list of permitted uses. That list is applicable to the entire district as a whole. Think of it like a planned development change. That's essentially what they're asking for. Okay okay. Thank you. Commissioner Ali. Let me pick on that thread a little bit. We approved the waiver. They come back with the new zoning case. They get approved for the veterinary use or whatever. They don't. Three months later, there's a different tenant with a use that is not part of this PD. Or do they have to come back for another waiver on the waiver? I'm basically trying to, yes. If it was not permitted in the list of uses that are specific to this district, they would need to come back for another waiver. Okay. Learn something. All right. No more questions for staff I do. This is not a public hearing, but I do believe there's an applicant present. Would anybody have any questions for the applicant? Despite registering the applicant is not available on zoom. And I'll back that up. The applicant is not present for questions so. All right no more questions for staff Commission. Anybody prepare to make a motion. Mr. Bender, I'd like to make a motion to approve. As presented. Okay, Commissioner lolly. I'll second. All right. We have a motion in a second. Everybody please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Thank you very much. Okay, now we'll back up to public hearing number two, please. Public hearing item number two. Agenda item number two. Proposed 2025 2026. Community Investment Program A discussion and consideration of the proposed 20 2526 Community Investment Program to ensure projects and programs are aligned with the Comprehensive Plan and other adopted master plans. The applicant is the City of Plano. This item is for legislative consideration. All right. Good evening commissioners. My name is Nasir and I'm a long range planner as a part of the planning department. And today I'm going to be presenting the proposed community investment program for the fiscal year of 2025 and 2026. So the Community Investment Program, also known as CIP, serves as the five year guide for planning, building, operating and maintaining capital projects. Every year, we analyze the alignment of the one year CIP with the Comprehensive Plan, and this presentation tonight will show you that. The comprehensive plan is meant to guide the future growth and redevelopment of the city, and the CIP program is the avenue to drive that growth. This presentation is a great opportunity for PNC to be informed of and also comment on the CIP program to help assist with the comp plan implementation. So here on this slide we have the five pillars of the comprehensive plan along with the associated components, policies and actions. The CIP program is reviewed under the Social Environment pillar, specifically under the Facilities and Infrastructure Policy. So the facilities and infrastructure policies and actions were approved in 2023. This policy amendment was aims to provide more practical guidance on the strategic prioritization of the CIP projects, and the CIP projects are specifically analyzed against the FY force categories, and 100% of the projects meet at least one of these categories. So jumping into the categories of the FY four policy, priority A addresses major infrastructure issues and an example of how the CIP addresses this is through street reconstruction projects. Priority B addresses preventative maintenance. An example of this would be the routine street repair and upgrade projects. Moving on to priority C, which is to implement aspects of plan maps. For example, we have our Parks Master Plan map which calls out areas for future park facilities, which can then be implemented by CIP project. And an example would be the seven acre Bruce Glasscock Park, located along Legacy and communications. Priority D addresses goals and actions of department strategic plans that could be master plans or any other small area plans. For instance, we have the project of the community park renovations, which would fulfill the strategic goals of the Parks Master Plan. Priority E promotes economic development objectives like the Collin Creek Infrastructure Project, and this will pave the way for more for major growth and redevelopment of the old Collin Creek Mall site. Priority F speaks to the implementation of technology improvements and innovative solutions, which can then be implemented by many departments, including Technology solutions, transportation, engineering and facilities. And finally, we have priority G, which which supports the reinvestment and redevelopment. Mendham Park would be a good example of this because the city is doing public public improvements to the park in coordination with private investment adjacent to the JCPenney campus, which is now known as the Park at Legacy Development. So the plan alignment analysis is conducted at three levels. First, we have the project overview, which is categorizing the projects by their type as well as their project, the project location, and then moving on to the funding. Overview. Projects are categorized by the lead department and the expenditure category. And finally, the project is reviewed in terms of its comp plan alignment using the FY four action. Looking a little bit more in depth in how the funding is split up. So the bond funded projects make up about 202 million of the total budget and include projects like the East Side drainage projects and the erosion control. The capital maintenance funds make up about 47 million of the total budget and includes projects like park restoration and recreation center equipment. The primary funding sources are general obligation bond, capital maintenance fund, and revenue bond. So majority of the CIP projects are implemented by Parks and Recreation, engineering, public works and facilities. These departments will be presenting their highlights of their projects tonight. Each year we also have a handful of projects that are implemented by other departments, which we will not be covering this evening. So all the projects are evaluated for their alignment with the comprehensive plan, and projects can align with multiple categories of the FIE fie policy. And an example of this would be 21 park improvements seen on this slide. It is aligning with three of the categories, namely constructing new aspects of plan maps, promoting strategic objectives of adopted master plans, as well as promoting economic development. So now I will present the key outcomes of our analysis. The total CIP budget is 319 million. 75% of the projects are maintenance, repair and minor replacements and reconstruction and major replacements. The remaining 25% of projects are new improvements, additions and policies or studies. A majority of the projects are in a specific location and are shown here on the map. As you can see, projects that are within a specific location make up about 62%. Engineering and public works have the most projects at 163 84 projects are within Parks and recreation and 52 projects are within facilities. Eight projects are of other departments. So looking into the project funding source, most of the projects are funded by the General Obligation Bond, Capital Maintenance Fund and the Water and Sewer Fund. So majority of all the projects across all departments are maintenance, repair and minor repairs. Replacement projects followed by reconstruction and major replacement projects. And this slide represents funding by the project type per department. So let's dive into each of the departments topics. I would like to welcome Renee Jordan, our Parks planning manager. Good evening commissioners. So in the Parks and Recreation CIP we've got five fund categories with 84 projects totaling approximately $76.1 million, or 25% of the total CIP. So let's take a high level look at projects in each of the funds in the recreation Centers fund. The renovation project has been in progress since January. This project is delivered by our facilities division. It makes scheduled updates to the nearly 20 year old facility to prepare it for the next 20 years of operation. And in the next fund, we've got park improvements. These projects are throughout the park system. I'll highlight just a few. We've got a project at Bob Woodruff Park North. This is north of Park Boulevard that's going to replace a playground and a restroom. We've got a project at Enfield Park, which is actually ongoing and continuing into this next fiscal year to replace two restrooms and all of the sports field lighting. And we've got several park renovations nearing bid release at Harrington Park, Horseshoe Park, and Thomas Park. The next fund is Capital Maintenance Fund. This is a fund that supports projects that maintain, repair, renovate our assets and facilities. And to give you an idea, this fund supports four performance performing arts venues, 15 athletic sites, almost 500 parks and median irrigation systems, five miles of living screens, 87 park sites, 47 public building sites, and five recreation centers, all for parks and recreation. And in the next fund, we've got the park fees. This funding supports projects to develop new linear neighborhood parks, such as Bruce Glascock Park or new trail Connection along Chisholm Trail from 15th to the north end of the Collin Creek Ring Road. Also to acquire new park land. We've got an example at the Almanac development site and to further develop parks in combination with scheduled renovations at several parks, including Horseshoe Harrington Longhorn House and Bob Woodruff North. And then finally the last section, parks, is the municipal drainage. Typical projects include creek bank stabilization projects that protect park infrastructure which is threatened and can't be relocated, so upcoming projects of this kind would be found at Arbor Hills Nature Preserve, Chisholm Trail, Pecan Hollow, and Shady Brook trail. And with that, this concludes the Parks and Recreation CIP. And next up is the engineering CIP with Caleb Thornhill. All right. Good evening, Caleb Thornhill, director of engineering. We'll go through the engineering portion. So similar to Renee engineering has four different funds that we fund our projects out of street, municipal drainage and then the water and sewer. We've got about 75 active projects with 118 projected for next year, 2526. So the funding types there streets, drainage, water, sewer, you can see the types of projects. A lot of the engineering projects are rehabilitation. We've essentially built out the majority of our new streets. We do have some sidewalk gaps that we fill in on occasion. Drainage is going to be primarily erosion control, drainage issues, and then water and sewer will be replacing old, outdated lines or lines that we have significant maintenance on that need to be replaced. So from a breakdown you can see streets is the larger piece of this pie, with 56 million out of the 118 and then drainage water and sewer. So street project types, we've broken this up into the primary categories that we have in the streets category. So that's going to be street design construction. Intersection improvements has its own category. It's its own monster out there. Miscellaneous which I'll talk about in a minute. And then transportation as well. This is a map. So the green is going to be projects that we have completed this fiscal year 2425. And that totals around 15 projects. We've got a few that are really close. So that number may fluctuate slightly. And that's really what we project next year. It may look like there's more lines and 15 projects, but just remember some of the projects have multiple locations, even though they're considered one project. So in design most of our projects and design are going to be residential collector street replacements and neighborhoods. We'll have some bridge repairs coming up, and some of those will be bridge replacements. Any Ada accessibility improvement projects will be in the design, and then any projects that we're doing in neighborhood, where it's the sewer line or the water line, that's going to be the main reason we're in that, but we'll also do pavement repair as well. So intersection improvements, there's two primary reasons we do these. And I've talked about this before to relieve congestion and for safety, if there is any geometric improvements that need to be done at that location, we'll make those adjustments. Typically what we're going to see at these intersection improvement projects is the addition of dual left turn lanes, the addition of dedicated right turn lanes to relieve that congestion. And then while we're there, we'll make improvements to the Ada components, making sure those are the latest improvements to signals, replace equipment that's needed. So we try to get in there, do the necessary improvements. So hopefully we don't have to come back. Intersection improvements are our most challenging because all of these intersections obviously have a lot of traffic. And they also have a lot of utilities. So getting those adjusted so we can complete those is the most time consuming. So here is what we've done over the last year. The green again is the 23 or 2425 finished about 18 locations. And then for next year you can see that's about where we'll be on for next year. So if you have any concerns about locations being under construction, you're exactly right, because we do have them spread everywhere. So I mentioned miscellaneous earlier. This was going to be some one off projects. We have bridge repairs that fall within this and this may be minor bridge repairs. It's not going to be a full replacement. This will be adjusting any anything on the deck. Anything related to the guardrail, anything that may be riprap underneath the bridge that we don't necessarily see. This will not be a major rehab, just minor repairs. Also, if we need to add street lighting in the section, then in the city that we do not have them. This would fall within the miscellaneous category. We also do some of our studies and our construction drawing updates from this category as well. And then transportation. We are in the midst of a huge renovation or a technological update to our transportation system. We've you see there at the top, we've completed nine intersections. We will be implementing our CCTV expansion over this next year. We're in the midst of retiming our signals. And then this year we've got planned for fiber expansion that helps us communicate with all of our signals running fiber to them. A lot of our signals are on over the air, or a essentially a cellular network, and that becomes unreliable and major storm events. So getting fiber to those will help us not only communicate with them, but also be more reliable. Vehicle detection, which is planned for next council meeting. The award of that that will help us with the congestion at these locations. We're in the midst of receiving cabinets, new traffic cabinets. These have already been awarded. The end of July are actually the end of August. I'm sorry, we are nearing completion of replacing all the controllers at our signals. So you can see there's a massive amount of technology updates. Most of our equipment out in the field is close to 20 years old. So we're doing a major renovation to that system. Talked about municipal drainage. A lot of this comes from erosion. If you've been listening to council, we've had several presentations. We spent the past two years doing a streambank assessment throughout the entire city. We have walked all 127 miles. So with that, we're getting council direction on a new policy, and we'll be going out and hopefully proactively addressing erosion concerns throughout the city. So that's a big part of this program. We also do this for flood study updates on different drainage basins throughout the city. And then I mentioned earlier localized flooding. Any issues that we have to address. Water improvements? A lot of this comes in our neighborhoods. We also do this in preparation of an arterial overlay project. Those projects we want to replace the utilities underground before we come in and do a significant improvements to the roadway on top, so that we don't have to come back out and tear that that arterial overlay up. But we also do significant amount of improvements in residential neighborhoods. You can see the number there. Currently we've got 65,000 linear feet of water line in design and 42,000 that's either nearing in construction or in the midst of construction. A lot of that's going to be lines that have maintenance issues, or it's cast iron and they're 40 or 50 years old. And I believe wastewater improvements. So we've got a significant initiative along the southern border of the city of Plano. We're updating lines Plano Parkway, parallel Interceptor, the Dallas North and Spring Creek all run through there. We've got some spot repairs in various spots throughout the city that we're working on, and there were also partnering with our public works department on a wastewater master plan for the entire city. We did 1 in 2018, and we're in the process of updating that model as well. I believe that is it for me. And I will turn it over to Paul Kunz, facilities division manager. Thank you. Good evening. Paul Kunz, facilities division manager. And facilities. This year we're projecting around $19 million for over 47 projects and two projects that aren't part of that that we're administering for the Parks Department. Of the 19 million, about 9 million of it is bond funded, and then 10 million is capital maintenance. And you can see this the various projects. I'll go into more detail on the bond, and then we'll go over some general what we're doing with capital maintenance fund. First one, Renee already touched on a little bit. This is the Oak Point Parks maintenance facility. We are raring to go on this thing. We are ready. We're just needing frontier to get out of our way. And they're close to doing that. It's a 15,000 square foot building. It is taking place of the Shell Park's current facility at Shell Park, and it's really to be able to support future park operations. We're adding training areas for them that they don't possibly have right now or don't have right now, and extended repair bays, they can handle the bigger equipment. And while we're there, we're going to put a new trailhead improvement to be a bathroom, a bike repair station, and some added parking. Fire station eight is over 30 years old. Hasn't had any major renovations done to it. The purpose here is to increase the amount of apparatus they have there, and the number of beds for the guys to increase their abilities. And with the current codes, when we go in and spend over $50,000 to any of our first responder facilities, we then get triggered to put in a storm shelter to survive any tornado that might hit a direct hit on the building. High point. One I want to say High Point fleet fueling facility. The main purpose of this facility is for crisis management of our fuel winter storm. Yuri. It made a real challenge for the city to make sure we have enough fuel. The main purpose is the fueling, but we do get other benefits for it by being able to sell or have cheaper costs versus retail for our fleet vehicles, for the for the city. And it also allows us to bulk fuel our own vehicle, which we can go out and support fire operations. Fire trucks can't leave other battling a fire. So this vehicle will come there. Plus it also allows us to fuel our own generators. If we happen to have another storm emergency. And then. So capital improvements is the last of the 21 bond. These are the smaller portions of it. It includes like replacing the elevator at the Justice Center, some window improvements at Haggard Library and so on, and a handful of roofs. And then the capital maintenance is just a handful of just examples of projects we do this year. We're finishing up a lot of the generators. We've been doing over seven, $7.2 million of our 10 million generators. We've got two projects that are safety and security. One of the examples is we're improving security at the courts lobby. We've got $1.3 million in this preservation of infrastructure. This is replacing mechanical units. Envelopes like, you know, the outside brick, mortar, that type of thing. It's our general repairs and upkeep. And then a little, little, under half a million supporting missions of this. So we have different departments submit they've they've increased change. The business model, increased personnel. This is the support that. And then we've got just 100,000 of sustainability. That's us maintaining the solar arrays we do have and other energy saving things we do like changing out light fixtures and stuff like that. And I believe that brings up special projects. Good evening. Peter Brasseur, director of Special Projects. If you may have noticed, this is the first time Special Projects is doing CIP. Earlier this late spring, the city manager decided to move new construction of facilities from the ground up into special projects. So that was so. I don't have any of last year's because there was none. So this is all for the future. We have five projects that we're going to undertake in the next four years. Police headquarters and 911 Center Fire Station, 14 police Training Facility, fleet operations and the design of Fire Station Number three or the which is going to be relocated. I have a slide for that. So all in all, police headquarters will be on the corner of Alma and park you here on the map. You'll notice that it also includes Fire Station 14. We are going to do the design of these together as one project with two different separate funding sources. The next, of course, is 14. Police Training Center. This is a new, larger building. So we'll be starting the design in this next fiscal year as well. And then fleet operations. This is to support a brand new facility for fleet. The other one is rather old and doesn't fit all of our vehicles and its height. So it's going to be totally redesigned and reconstructed. And then fire station number 13. As you can see, this is actually on the site of Foreman Elementary. The city is purchasing that property from Pisd. A portion of that property will become fire station number three. So the old one will stay active until this one is constructed. The construction costs are not within this current CIP, but the design and the acquisition costs are. And then next is Abby. Good evening. I'm Abby Owens, I'm the director of public works. And I'm going to wrap up our presentation of CIP projects to you all. So for Public works we have 78 projects with just over $81 million. And that's everything from street repairs and improvements to also traffic infrastructure and then water and wastewater improvements as well for street improvements. The two main categories that public works uses are bond funding, especially using what was recently approved. We programed that, but then also our capital maintenance fund. The way that we kind of differentiate those two is our bond funds are used for designated project areas and locations that we're going to be there multiple years and need to work on improving all the facilities for streets, sidewalks and ramps. If it's capital maintenance fund, that's usually we're going to jump around to different locations. That's only small sections of a road that need to be repaired, or small sidewalk improvements or screening wall improvements. But the total funding for next year is about $63 million between those two funds. So for bond funding projects, that's going to be our arterial concrete repair and overlay and then residential street and alley repair, which that's what how the bond reads. But what we actually call those for us is the neighborhood zones. So that's where we go into a neighborhood and we do all the repairs in that neighborhood zone. We're typically there about two and a half to three years. Sometimes we have to break them into smaller chunks just depending upon the quantity of repairs needed. So on this particular one, I've got a picture from last time, which is our Los Rios Boulevard, where we go do concrete improvements first, and then we come behind and do the ultra thin overlay to extend the life of that street. Q4 is one of the areas we're in currently that's on the far east side of the city. And this is an example of how we don't fix the entire street. That's engineering, but we do as we go in and do point replacement. And then you'll see the sidewalk on the right hand side is also a brand new sidewalk, where we went in and cleaned up some of the panels that were there that might have had trip hazards or that could have had a slope issue, or maybe it was missing a ramp. This is our planned locations for arterial overlays. First, like I mentioned, the concrete repairs. So anything that's in dashed is going to be either where we're currently working and doing concrete repairs. I know you all have driven our roads and I you have seen all of the cones and then the areas that are solid lines is locations that we're doing current overlays or headed or the ones that will carry into next year. Independence and alma are not on this list because we're currently overlaying those two locations. They will be wrapped up by the end of this year for those overlays. This is the residential area projects I was mentioning. So anything that's in green is a neighborhood that we started this year or last year, and it will continue on into next year's funding. Anything in red is a location that we're going to be adding into our list, and we'll start working on design and then putting a contract together to start improvements in that neighborhood next year. For street improvements. So this is the capital maintenance side of things I mentioned. This is typically work order based. So this will be areas where we've patched and extended the life of the street. The location is greater than what our internal house crews can manage. So we rely on a contractor and they will jump around to different locations throughout the city to address. Typically it's going to be because the scoring of the street is bad enough that it needs a repair, but it's not to a point where the entire utilities need to be addressed, or the street needs to be reconstructed by engineering. This also will include an example I have up here is our sidewalk horizontal saw cutting. So typically in order to address address rip hazard, we have to remove about 6 to 8 squares of sidewalk. We found that this is much more economical and significantly less expensive. It's about $55 per location, as opposed to 800 something dollars per location. And we find that residents actually prefer this because we're able to address that trip hazard and the sidewalk still stays intact, and they can continue on and use it just as normal. Also, pavement markings and buttons is one that we contract out. Screening walls we do repairs for. They seem to be a target for cars, and so whenever they're hit by a car, that's where public works actually makes the repairs. If it's something where the foundation underneath needs to be replaced, that would be engineering. We also do all the guardrails using funding from here. Signal light equipment. Caleb mentioned a lot of the equipments that engineering is purchasing that public works or contractors will install. But there's also other things we have to purchase throughout the year that are unplanned. Traffic signal cabinets also get hit by cars. And so those are the things that we use that funding for to make those replacements and upgrades. On the water side. We recently actually just did an analysis and are identifying how we're going to be programing large diameter main replacements and improvements, but we also are starting repairs on Parker Elevated Storage Tank and doing coating inside and outside of that tank. We've got Ridgeview Pump Station. This is an example of one of our motors that was recently approved by council as a ratification on Monday night. These are very large, expensive investments, and so putting them in the operating budget doesn't make sense. So we program them through the capital maintenance or the capital improvements fund. Also we do valve exercising. And then we are looking at adding chloramine boosting at two of our elevated storage tanks to improve water age and increase the chloramines that are available in those tanks. Also, wastewater infrastructure so similar to water, all of our lift stations also need ongoing repairs and maintenance. And so we use this funding to do any sort of pumps and replacements we need there. Also, we'll do studies for Eni, which is inflow and infiltration. Our goal for the wastewater system is to only to treat wastewater. So we want to try to keep all the rainwater out and that's what we'll improve their manhole sealing. We do camera inspections with a contractor here also flow monitoring. We monitor all the different flows throughout the system so we can identify where the capacity needs are. And we use that for the wastewater model that we're getting ready to kick off. And that is all my items. So I'll kick it back over to you. So as we mentioned before, we evaluate the CIP projects for alignment with the comprehensive plans, facility and infrastructure Policy action four. And now I will go through an overview of how we categorize them by the department. So looking at Parks and Recreation, out of the total 84 projects, majority of them promoted strategic objectives outlined in master plans such as the Parks Master Plan or other specific park site plans. For engineering and public works. Out of the 163 projects, majority of them address issues and inadequacies and prevent preventative maintenance. To keep our streets up to date and our drainage functioning properly. Similarly, the majority of the facilities projects align with addressing issues and inadequacies, as well as providing maintenance of city facilities. And all 307 projects align with one or more of these priorities of the policy. In the Comprehensive Plan, staff recommends this item for approval. If you have any questions. My name is Nasser and I'm happy to answer them. Thank you. That was a great presentation. Before I open it up to questions from the commission, I. I say this every year. I'm always astounded at how many projects y'all handle. So. It's amazing to me the breadth, first of all, to the directors and to your staffs. Please convey our thanks that we know that it sometimes it goes unsaid, but we count on you all to do what you do and you don't get thanked enough. So thank you for your efforts and for your staffs to keep our city well maintained and keep looking forward. So with that said, I'll open it up to questions or comments from the commission. Anybody? Commissioner Brounoff, thank you. I just have one question. Well, they said get close to the microphone, so I did. Wow. In more than one presentation, reference was made to projects which perhaps were begun last year. They may be carried over to this year. I'm wondering, are any of the projects on this list, projects that we previously approved in past years, in past years? SIPs? And if so, why are we being asked to approve them again? Yes, so many projects are multi year projects, but we approve the CIP looking forward for five years every year. So some of those projects will be repeating. But we're again adding another year in each time we do it. Okay. Is the funding amount 300 whatever it is million new expenditures for the forthcoming year. It's for the forthcoming year. So what you're focusing on is what what's going to be focused on this upcoming fiscal year. But again, the entire CIP is looking out five years as a whole. And we're adding that adding that in each year. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Commissioner Ali, two questions. One, piggybacking off of Commissioner Brounoff. I seem to remember the last time we looked at this for 24, 25, it was in the 300 million range. But in the last slide, it shows something significantly lower at 243. Did we push? Did we have slippage that we pushed into this year or did things come in cheaper. Which would be a good thing I guess. The last slide 243 so where you have the combined expenditure summary. It actually stays. It's a re-estimate on 2425. It says 243 978975801 as. I'm just trying to reground myself on what the baseline is. Are you talking about the spreadsheet with all the details? 2425 column, 2526 column? Yep, etc. So at the bottom of that column, 243 875 801 is that your. Yes. Okay. I think the last time I saw this, it was 300 or so for. Yes, sir. Jason Gregor on the budget CIP manager. So what will happen is within the scope of what you are approving as part of the proposed budget, we asked departments to go back at mid-year to make a re-estimated budget to more closely reflect what they expect to spend in that year. Projects can be delayed, there can be conflicts, and we want them to more accurately reflect what they're actually going to spend, as opposed to just continuing to carry an inflated budget throughout the year. Gotcha. That's that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure. So part of the 319 is probably a delay flowing into 2526. The cascading effect. Okay. Second question was more on the water infrastructure. Well, two questions there. When we're thinking about that. Is this more. Infrastructure from a piping perspective or are we looking at the full ecosystem. Do we? Do we maintain like water filtration, or is that the North Texas Water District that handles that? Where do we take the cost of water? Yeah, sure. So we purchase 100% of our water supply from the North Texas Municipal Water District, built into the rates that we pay per thousand gallons to the district is how they fund any water treatment plant improvements, any of their transmission lines improvements, anything related to that, this water SIP that you're looking at includes we have four pump stations. So the district delivers the water to us, and then we use the pump stations to get it out into our system. And it also includes ten elevated storage tanks. So those are the only places that we're doing any sort of water infrastructure improvement when it comes to the distribution system. Then on top of that, we do upgrades to pipelines, replacements of smaller diameter lines, valves, all those types of things to gotcha. Last question on the water. Why is I'm thinking of it from a full ecosystem? Why is the sewer part of water under different departments? I think one is under public works and one is under engineering. Or I might have gotten that. So water distribution and water and wastewater collection are both under public works. Engineering does projects that are doing capacity improvements or full pipeline replacements. So in the water side of things, public works will do smaller water improvement projects that are needed. Maybe like we've got staff on a main break right now that are out making improvements to a water line. Engineering does things that requires full design life, engineering drawings and full pipeline addressing. So we work together and identify what the remaining useful life is on pipelines, and then decides which group it should be under. Does that help? That does help. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Commission any other commissioner lolly, I wanted to know, like what's the effect of the changes that like the zoning changes, the regulation, the new regulation, changes on the say, the like the street design or the capacity of the infrastructure. So in regards to capacity, we're actually working with the engineering department on updating our city projections, both citywide and in specific areas that we know are going to be potentially anticipating higher levels of growth so that they can then work that into their capacity. Projections for water and wastewater. What about the street design? Because you're like, I know that the street design is like changing in the new according to the new regulations. And we're doing some like we're putting a lot of money into like resurfacing. So are these going to be affected on the new design like in the new design? So on the way we design our streets, fortunately, our street design standards have been recently updated, and they're flexible in that we can adapt them to the types of development that we may see under the new legislation. We are proposing some updates to mitigate some impacts, such as block length and items like that. But yes, our our design standards can be adapted to meet the new development so we don't have to go back and redesign what we have already spent some money on. Right? Yeah. I guess street capacity may be reevaluated by like the engineering department, as we also reevaluate projections, I think, from a from a capacity standpoint, a lot of our roads are going to be six lane arterial roadways, and there's not much room to add much more without acquiring more land. But the improvements that can be done in response to development is more turn lanes, more intersection improvements. Those types of things is what you might see in response to new growth. Thank you, Commissioner Langfelder. I'm going to shift gears a moment. I think have I know that you've talked about a bunch of new traffic signal cabinets and various things going out, and I know when I drive around North Dallas and stuff, I see other municipalities utilize like artwork and paint them and, and make them a little more desirable than a, you know, whatever cabinet color, you know, green or whatever they, they're sticking out have. Has the city ever considered something like that and maybe working with school district to have, like, the kids come up with some concepts and do paint and, you know, I don't know, just something cool to make these a little more attractive. Mr. Thornhill. Yes. So it was it was funny. I was sitting between Abby, who is the public works director, who maintains all the cabinets, and behind me was Peter Brasher, who's special projects director, and they both looked at me and said, you go up there. So the short answer is we have talked about it, but we do not have a program in place to go out and paint the cabinets. I have seen that in other cities, you know, whether it's dedicated to certain schools or certain colleges or whatever it is, we do not have, that program in place would be the short answer. Just a suggestion on there you are. I hadn't hung myself up there for a second. I would love to. I mean, just personally, I think that would be a great thing just to beautify the city even more than we already do, and then to team up with the school district or something to that would also help mitigate the costs, probably, and make it make it a project for art, art classes or something, and just a way to fund it that way. And, and it would be I think that would be a nice little project. So okay, so, Mr. Thornhill, I think what I'm hearing is they want the engineering department to have an art department in it as well. Yeah, I'm going to see if I can call public Works when I get back to my desk and special projects and say, I've got something for you. I did take a hot potato. Yeah. Commissioner lolly. Well, like, I have a question for engineering, actually. Like, did we look at the more sustainable resurfacing material than the asphalt? Like, I know the city of Fort Worth, like employing a mixture of the concrete, like a recycled concrete and recycled asphalt. And there it is. You know, like it's the life cycle. It's longer and it's like, I think it's perform better. I don't know, but you know, like, for sure. But you like I wanted to get your insight on this. Yeah. So I'll let Abby maybe touch on the asphalt. I will tell you that we do analyze recycled concrete for our subgrades or our bases. It seems to perform well in those situations. We don't typically do it for a new concrete pour. But you know, Abby, if you want to touch on anything on the asphalt overlay itself, you know, I think because, you know, like there's like a mixture of concrete and asphalt and they do it like a sustainable resurfacing material. I'll research it. So usually the question we get about the overlays is related to cool pavement and the heat island effect. We actually use a coarser aggregate than what you would typically use for asphalt. And it's actually a little bit cooler because it's got more breathability to it. Essentially it's kind of the easy way to describe it, but we've actually looked into that a few different times. But we'll research it and see if there's something else out there. Public works does not have any sort of recycled concrete use whenever we're doing panel replacement. But we just researched something that City of Sugarland was doing on sidewalks. It's not a good fit for us, but happy to look into it and let you guys follow back up with Mike and see if there's anything in there. And maybe we can just do a program like a city of Ashland. They have recycled concrete, so like all the concrete, you know, like when you do redevelopment or development, you're like, they have to recycle all the concrete somewhere and maybe you can use it. You know, like, I know the city of Fort Worth. They started resurfacing there, like, with a mixture of concrete and asphalt. Yeah, sure. We'll look into it and kind of see, I'm familiar with different pieces of it, but we'll look into it and kind of follow back up with Mike. Something for you. Thank you. Thanks, Mr. Ali. One question on the plan alignment percentages. And I understand that. Certain funding percentages may meet more than one of our plan pillars, but is it safe to say that all 319 million is. Overall 100% tied to our comprehensive plan alignment pillars? That a fair, safe statement? Yes. So out of the A through G categories of the F and P policy, all 307 meet at least one of those categories. Right. Sorry. Okay. Just more of a comment again I. Echo what the chair said on the work you guys put into this. I do love the fact that even though we are a mature city, we're still putting money towards technology improvements private partnerships economic development, and if my math is correct, 95% of the money we are spending is improving, repairing or replacing something which I think the citizenry should see as good stewardship, all to their benefit. We are not building a bridge to nowhere somewhere. Thank you, Commissioner Tong. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, I want to give you all applause and thank you for all the effort. And it's great. Every year. I see this every year. I'm impressed. So thank you so much. It's a lot of work. I don't have actually any questions regarding what you presented. I understand that you have done a tremendous job. Great job to come up with these projects and align with the comp plan. And I just have a couple of ideas that may not, may or may not be in the comp plan at all. I don't know if there will be another chance we get to say it, so I'm going to say it anyway. So is this about the capital improvements program? And it's I'm not sure it's regarding Rose. I think Rose design, just like what Commissioner Lingenfelter was saying, that because this summer I have visited a couple other cities, I see little robots walking on the streets delivering food. So like, you know. So I'm not sure if that's required. Special designs of the food, not the food, the roads or the lights. Do we have any R&D department to do any research about in the future, maybe in the near future? See how much you know ChatGPT has developed in the past five years. In five years, this could be popular all over the country. So do we have any technology or AI or robots? Advanced technology in mind that forward looking into an embedded that and to be prepared in the next 4 or 5 years for that. So the short answer would be yes. So I mentioned the traffic signal program that we're working on, and I mentioned several different components. The fiber, the controllers, the cabinets themselves, the new cabinets that we're putting out there will not only bring us to today's standards and requirements, but it also prepares us. There's a lot more room in the cabinet for additional technology that we may not know exist today. So from a signal, if you've been in the industry a little bit, you hear adaptive traffic signals. And essentially that's an AI component where it learns what the traffic patterns are and it makes adjustments. The current programs or systems that are out there that do adaptive, we haven't had great results from it. And I say we not Plano. We do not have that at this point, but some of the other municipalities around us that have done it or tried it. So eventually it will get better and better, just like everything else. It will probably be exponential speed. So we're really encouraged by having these new cabinets in there to have that kind of technology that hopefully when that does come in, the future will be ready. So we've got stuff like that. As far as the robots on the ground, Fedex has done some pilot cases in the legacy area, delivering packages. So the big question that we'll have, not necessarily with that, the industry really it's difficult to say that the city of Plano will use stripes and City of Richardson will use buttons and Tex-dot will use this, whatever it is. So the industry is really just saying we're going to figure it out. We're not going to require these cities to change all their striping or change all the roadway widths, or change their concrete color or whatever it may be. So I think having that signal equipment prepared, but also keeping our infrastructure up to date and in good working condition, is going to play into successful avenues in the future. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. Yep. Commissioner binder, thank you. Chairman, I just wanted to echo some of the other commissioners and the chairman's comments about the level of professionalism across the city. It's very much appreciated. And, you know, as a taxpayer, I feel that my money is being spent well. Especially some of the improvements to the screening walls and so forth. It's not just screening walls, it's the landscaping that goes along with that. Improvements along communications. It's just very well thought out. And it's complicated to do with a dynamic, active city. So I appreciate all your efforts and your foresight and where we're going. So just again, thank you, Mr. Bronsky. I have to agree with everyone that on a regular basis, I think every department does a tremendous job with the CIP program. I do have a couple questions. So my first one is. I'm just curious how many live screening walls we have versus the concrete screening walls, and if there are any that are in transition from going from the live walls into the concrete walls in this particular program. Berkshire Engineering, I stay up here for a little bit. You got the hot potato again. So Renee just informed me from the Parks Department that we have approximately five miles of live screening walls. Abby I know I've looked at it, but the total number of concrete or brick is 80. I believe it's no, I was my question, I guess was not the actual numbers for each one. Right? Right. But do we have is it still cost effective to have the live screening versus the concrete over long. So in my can probably help me from a zoning perspective and the requirements. But when a new project comes on board, the property has the option of which they want to do a live or a structural screening wall. So years ago, some of these locations were chosen. I think there's one along. It's Parker Parker across from the high school that has a live screening wall, which live screening was essentially plants serving as the screening between the neighborhood. What has happened over the years, the challenge now going back to replace that live screening is you've got irrigation lines, which is probably to serve the bushes or the trees which can come out, but you've got power poles now in that area. You've got underground utilities. And to go back and put in a structure becomes a challenge to move those utilities and find a feasible location. We have had requests over the years. The challenge that we'll also see with that is some of the neighborhoods love the live look, and some of them love the structural. So we evaluate each of those. We will put out a poll to the neighborhood to see how they would like to move forward. And if it is, and we can feasibly do it, we do. Look at that. Yeah. I just I remember a couple years back when we replaced the live screening on Custer between Spring Creek and Parker. It was a disaster to walk that area because you were always having to get out in traffic to avoid it. And I just was curious about whether it it continues to be something that we're looking at. Yeah, on a regular basis. Second question involves the I was curious, are we still the tracking. And this goes with this one's an overlay question again. But you may stay up here and answer anyway. So my question was I know we consistently track the amount of savings that we're seeing as it relates to the overlay. Do we do we see that number growing up as a percentage of increase from what we were anticipating, or do we see it staying the same or reducing? I think you may have to word that again for me, I'm not sure I'm following what savings you're. So I guess my question was when we first started the overlay program, we had an anticipated savings that we were going to hit. Okay. So as we've gone through the overlay process and are tweaking it, are we, as we lay each new road or each new segment, are we hitting that? Are we going above what we anticipated, or are we coming below what we were expecting? Yeah. So if I'm understanding correctly, the savings between a full replacement versus an overlay, right. Is that what you're saying? The savings difference okay. So I don't know that we've also the long term impact of the savings itself if we have to do a full replacement. Yeah. So there's a couple of things. One you've got just material cost right. So the full replacement is obviously going to be a lot more expensive than an overlay. So from that perspective we'll the overlay or the it'll never be cost beneficial to do the full replacement versus the overlay. Now what we don't know at this point is how long is the overlay going to last. Because right now what Abby's team will do is they will do the structural or the concrete repair, and then they'll put the asphalt overlay, and that's essentially putting a blanket on top of it and sealing that water to keep it out of there. That may be the new replacement method for that street. We may never go back in and replace it fully as you would a typical street, just from a simple standpoint of the disruption and the cost to do six lanes of road. If this continues to hold, this may be the new method of maintaining our arterials, unless we get to a point and I don't know, 15 or 20 years, but we have not gone back and re overlaid or had to re redo the concrete at this point. So, you know, Abby, I don't know if what the independence was the first one that was 17. So we're coming up on, you know eight almost eight years somewhere in that ballpark. You know if we get 15 years out of the overlay and we can go back and overlay it again and get another 15 years, will concrete typically has a 30 year design life? It's even two overlays is still going to be a lot cheaper than a full replacement of independence. Okay, so two other questions on the overlay itself. I noticed on the one of the maps for the overlay for 25, we we've, we've gone and done Custer Road basically north of Parker, except for the section between Parker and Spring Creek. Is there a reason we're not continuing down that? Yeah, sure. So first on the overlay one, we're actually going to go back and review Parker Road once we've got the overlay down and start tracking it. And we're going to see if we would have gone in and done a full panel or full road reconstruction in that area, what would that cost have been? And then what have we spent to date? So we're going to go back and do a revisit on that. It's going to take us a little bit, but we're going to get their independence. Originally, when we did the bond program, starting with overlays in 2021, the goal was ten years and we have 136 miles of arterials. We were hoping to get over ten years, get all those done, and then just start milling the overlay and going back and doing it again. The overlay. That's our test pilot on independence from Parker to 15th is actually holding up really well. So we went ahead and sealed it. So if you drive into independence, you'll see from park to Parker is one color sealer and then park to 15th is a different we're going to test them out. We know the cost differences. We're going to see what they look like. We're hoping the overlays will actually last 15 years. So our goal is in 2036 we will mill I'm sorry 2017 plus 15 years would be 2032. Our goal is to mill the overlay on independence, see what condition the concrete's in, see how the joints are doing. Look at it and that will help us, because that's basically four years or five years ahead of where the overlay would be starting. So that's kind of our time frame right now as far as Custer, when we're planning out all the different locations we're going, we also look at the underlying infrastructure. So if there's a water line replacement needs to happen or if there's sewer projects planned. So if you drive the section of Plano Parkway, for instance, that's from Coyote to Custer, you'll notice that that section just we keep patching. And that's because engineering is coming behind with a sewer project. So we try to stagger them. And we also try to keep two parallel arterials not under construction. So that's some of what that part that is. But we can I have to pull up my schedule. But I can tell you exactly why we do the sections that we do. Usually it's underlying infrastructure. That's almost always my other question as it relates to why or where I noticed Spring Creek has been white. Do we do we have a timeline as far as when we anticipate the overlay hitting Spring Creek? Yep, I can pull it up. I've got a little map that I follow. The main reason for Spring Creek's delay is engineering has a traffic signalization program that's going to be doing multiple traffic intersections, and that's kind of why we keep delaying that one. And so what we don't want to do is go in and fix panel replacements and then have to go back and take them out as they do lane expansions or different adjustments there. I'd have to go look at my map and we can kind of look at it, but we try not to put any further than one year out because things change. So absolutely. But that's usually why. Thank you. So I have one. This isn't necessarily it's not a question. I just want to make a comment. As I was looking through the CIP, it was fascinating to me that. One of the main, one of the biggest gems for the city of Plano, I believe, are our libraries. And in the entire CIP program, we've got $4.4 million over, I don't know, eight, nine projects that we continue to ask our libraries to do more with less. And I'm thankful that our libraries are able to do that. But I just want to voice that. I think we need to make sure that we continue to deliver for our citizens, the top libraries and the top quality libraries that they deserve. And I want to make sure that we always continue to ask our libraries what they need and how we can better service the citizens, and I'm proud that we're able to do it on $4.3 million. But it concerns me that we're spending so little on libraries. So that's all. Thank you very much, Mr. Binder. Thank you, chairman, just more of a comment for public maybe watching regarding the street overlays. And I'm sure the city has done this, but the present value savings versus the future cost has got to be just astronomical. So if you can get 15 years or something like that and you can push that off, you know, and that's not even considering the disruption to the traffic to do full panel replacements. So I applaud the city. I know many, many years ago there was a lot of analysis done. And you don't get reward without taking some risk. So I applaud the city for trying this. I know they researched it, looked at other municipalities, and I look at part of the comprehensive plan as efficient use of funds and so forth. So that's that's really where my comment comes from. So thank you. All right. This is technically a public hearing. So let me open the public hearing. See if there's anybody in the public that signed up to speak on this item tonight. There's no registered speakers. Okay. Then I'll close the public hearing. And commission Commissioner Bronsky I move, we approve the CIP program as submitted by staff Commissioner Brounoff I second? Right. Any other comments? Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Again, thank you all very much. It's always educational. Hearing what y'all have done since last year and a little overwhelming to be honest. So keep up the good work. All right. Any other business to come before the commission this evening? No, sir. All right. We stand adjourned at 7:17 p.m. Became a regional destination, attracting shoppers from Oklahoma as well as locally. Regional malls like Collin Creek began dying because of competition from newer malls, online retailing and discount big box stores. At the end of the day, we're going to be able to stand here and go, man, we did something really cool that we wer