I now declare that the Plano City Council is convened, an open session that all council members are present. The council will now recess into executive session in training room to hold a closed executive meeting pursuant to the provisions of Vernon's Texas Code Annotated Government Code, chapter 551, the Open Meetings Act in accordance with the authority contained in section 551 o 71 to consult with the attorney and receive legal advice and discuss litigation. And section 551 087 to discuss economic development matters. Thank you. I now declare that the Plano City Council preliminary open meeting is reconvened into open session, that all council members are present. Our first item on the preliminary agenda is consideration and action resulting from the executive session. Our next item is Pisd closed Campuses Information Sessions presented by Curtis Howard. Director of Neighborhood Services. And I am here to talk to you about kind of a little project that we embarked on with regards to try and get community input on the Pisd campuses that were closed in the city is in the in the process of purchasing. So just kind of some some highlights on this issue. First of all, the city of Plano, as you well know, is still in the process of purchasing the properties. We have not done so yet. And we're going through that, that process and what we started off doing in September through October was an initial outreach. What we were looking at doing is trying to gather community input, especially from those neighborhoods, those people that would be affected by these these properties get community input. And then and that's what we've done, and that's what we're going to talk to you about here tonight. There have not been just overall, there have not been any decisions made on what these properties or what's going to be done with these properties that will be up to council. And and then the community, of course, can still provide input through the traditional means of, of communication with council or council meetings and that sort of thing. So, so tonight I'm just going to go over what we've done and what the results are from the community input. Have the you'll have the opportunity to provide any direction to, to to staff that you need to. And I'll answer any questions that you have. All right okay. So just a little bit what we did is as part of the agreement we had with Pisd regarding the purchase of these three schools, Davis Elementary, Foreman Elementary, and Armstrong Middle School is to try and do community outreach. And so we scheduled six listening sessions over about a six week period. We did it at various places various times in an effort to to get as much community input as possible. We put out yard signs. We put out over 150 mailers. This information went out on social media news outlets, and we did as much as we could to make sure that the community understood what we were doing and try and encourage community input. So over the total of these six listening sessions that we had, we had 354 residents come and we kind of broke it down. Three of these listening sessions were geared towards Davis Elementary, but not exclusively. And and so in that during that meeting, we had 282 attendees across three meetings. As you're well aware of, this property is zoned single family. And and so that being that that that's what it was zoned. You know, one of the questions we had is what do you want to do with this property? And of course, I think that it's fair to say that that there was general opposition about about housing on this property. So a lot of residents voiced kind of concern that if we did put some sort of housing on there, that it would not match the esthetics of the neighborhood. And then there was just a strong community sentiment that Davis Elementary was the heart of the community. And so citizens really let us know kind of what was going on. And you can see, one of the things that we did is as part of this process is we had some poster boards out there with some examples. We had the ability for people to write comments and in various ways. And you can see one of the examples that we have here. And I think there was a somebody brought up one of their kids there, and you can see how they placed the dots on that specific poster board there. So as far as Davis Elementary, overall, the desired use, you can see that those people, about 85% of it, wanted it to be a park. And then we have other community uses. So so things like a dog park, things like a community garden where some of the things that that we we heard rec center, sports facility, senior center, some And then those people that that said something about housing, if you can look at it, basically single family detached for those people, that would be generally what, what people wanted. But you can see that 85% was just opposed to housing in general. So which was the general sentiment through all six of these listening sessions and then Armstrong Middle School. So again, we had three additional meetings there. Armstrong talking about Armstrong and and so 72 attendees across three meetings, again, single family, zoned single family. And there was again that that just that opposition to anything but parkland. You know, there there was there was some loss of use or there was some concern about loss of use of some of the amenities that we had there. And then just the fact that two schools on that side of town that were closed within close proximity really hit that neighborhood hard. And so that was a lot of the information, the input that we were getting so desired use. You can see again, 63 not quite as much as we saw at Davis, but 63% wanted either park and 48% indicated other community uses is one of the things that they wanted. And then also, as far as housing sediment goes, you can kind of see how that goes. That strong opposition to to housing less so for single family detached more so for for kind of multifamily or duplexes or that sort of thing. And then Foreman same sort of thing. There was support for the fact that we're going to move fire station number three there. Community had a lot of support for that. And because we don't know what that's going to look like, one of the things that the community wanted us to do was reach out. And if we need to do something with the remaining part, part of that parcel after the fire station has been designed and built. So. And so with that, I think just probably overall, it's fair to say that the general sentiment of the community on on these properties was to keep it in some sort of parkland. They were there was a lot of opposition to to putting houses or some sort of housing, but there was some some people were open to some other community type type uses and that's that's generally where it was. So for those of you and you know, I got to certainly give kudos to the neighborhood services, best neighborhood staff that put this on. A lot of work went into this and and they did a great job. So and I appreciate those of you that came to some of these meetings also. Mayor and council, this is just information only at this point. We're not expecting direction tonight. We wanted to present this information, present it to the public, allow it to be out there, and then we can come back in a future meeting to actually engage in a discussion and seek direction for where you might want to go with these properties. So tonight this is just informational, and we will come back at a future meeting to have further discussion with you. Thank you Curtis. Appreciate it. Thank you everybody. Okay. Next item is consent and regular agendas. Is there a an item a council member would like to remove. All right. Next item is council items for discussion and future agendas. All right. We will move on to our regular meeting. I now declare that the Plano City Council is reconvened in open session. That all council members are present will begin tonight's regular meeting, with the invocation led by Senior Pastor Randall Worley, Prairie Creek Baptist Church and Pledge of Allegiance and Texas Pledge, led by troop 890, G charter organization circle ten Council, would you please rise? Please join me in prayer. Our God, we come before you in need. We live in a fractured times with divisiveness and hostility rising and loving, unity and harmony diminishing as we enter into this season of remembering your birth, your entry into our world to save and rescue us from our darkest impulses, our eyes turn to you. The prophets of old said that you would be our wonderful counselor, Almighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. As our city leaders meet this evening to discuss how best to guide our city forward, I pray that you will be a wonderful counselor to them, providing them with insights they would never have had otherwise, with solutions that will bring harmony and unity and love among the many and diverse people of this city. We recognize our limitations. God as finite beings. There are many things that are beyond our power, beyond our control. Where our city leaders fall short not for lack of desire, but because they find themselves powerless to do all they would like to do. We turn to you, Almighty God, and ask that you do for this city what our leaders cannot. Nothing is impossible for you. Do the impossible for our leaders. I pray for the people of this city, many who have arrived here from other nations. This has been a difficult year for those not born here, where humans have failed to show compassion and welcome. I pray that they may find in you Lord Jesus, the Everlasting Father we all long for I pray that you will touch the hearts of all who claim to know you already, and fill them with the love of a father for all the children of Adam in this city. May no one be excluded from the warmth of the family. May we all discover the joy of a family welcomed by one father. In many ways we stand divided God. Our views are driven by algorithms that feed profit margins with no regard for the health of the human family or for our own individual sanity as a nation. And I suspect as a city, we stand bitterly divided by the politics of our day. If ever we needed a Prince of Peace, it is now. I pray, that you bring our hearts back to you, so that in you we may recover our sense of family, a family that was always intended to include many languages, cultures, colors and perspectives make this wonderfully diverse city of Plano a shining example to the world of just how beautifully this human family can be. Together, we lift our eyes to you, and it is in your precious name, Lord Jesus, that we pray. Amen. Thank you. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please join me in the Texas Pledge. Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas one state under God, one and indivisible. Please be seated. Thank you. Come back, come back. Thank you so much for doing this. Thank you. Yes. Can you take a picture? Okay. I'm so glad you found us. Thank you, thank you. Comments of public interest. Comments of public interest. This portion of the meeting is to allow up to three minutes per speaker, with 30 total minutes on items of interest or concern, and not on items that are on the current agenda. The council may not discuss these items, but may respond with factual or policy information. The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda. Okay, we have several speakers tonight. And so I'm going to ask you to reduce it down to two minutes each, if you will. And we will. We'll get started. The first speaker is Lee Lustig. He was to be on zoom. Just checking to see if he's in the chamber. Okay. The next speaker is Nancy Hampton. Thomas. Nancy. Okay. Austin meek. Hello, esteemed council and mayor. My name is Austin Meek. I am an employee at the Tom thumb over on Alma and Hedgecock. I used I use dart every day to be able to get to and from work and also to buy groceries and several other things that that I need to do to function as a citizen of Plano. And I have felt recently that as a body, you have been ignoring the wants of the citizens of Plano to keep dart. I know at a previous meeting it was overwhelmingly in support of dart, and you chose to ignore that, to put it up to a vote, which if done and if it is chosen for Dart to be removed from Plano, will adversely affect large amount of people, including myself, possibly rendering people unable to get to work and rendering them homeless. And I sorry, I feel that. The what I have heard that you plan to do in case that happens, is insufficient to meet the needs of Plano. Mostly I've heard is only paratransit, which is important. I do not disregard that, but for the average citizen that replaces requires public transportation. I'm sorry, requires public transportation. It, as I said, insufficient. I appreciate the time spent listening to me. And thank you, thank you. The next speaker is Amber Chaffin. Hi. I'm back. My name is Amber. I live at 6413 Monahans Court. And I wanted to tell you kind of what I've found during my research over the last two weeks. I've continued researching the claims, driving this withdrawal effort. Voters are being asked if voters are being asked to make a decision of this scale. They deserve facts, not assumptions. We've repeatedly heard that Dart increases demand on Plano police. To evaluate that, I submitted public records requests for for call for service data tied specifically to Plano Dart stations there park and rides for the bus as well as the train. The calls are not disproportionately high. In fact, since the beginning of 2020 for Dart, Plano PD have gone out for six assault calls, which is less or is about the same as any other public space in Plano. There's no evidence that the Dart station drives elevated crime in Plano. Dart maintains its own fully accredited police department, which is actually one of the largest transit police forces in the country. They're responsible for patrol, enforcement, response and investigations. Plano PD does assist as needed. Like many other regional public safety partnerships, if Dart service is reduced or removed, that responsibility shifts on to Plano. That is, more workload, more staffing demands and more local costs. I've also heard that dart isn't giving us the numbers you need. However, the dart provides the same methodology that every US transit system must use that they therefore maintain their compliance with the Federal Transit Administration and the National Transit Database. This includes the fixed route boardings, the paratransit books bookings. Micro transit visits. Sorry. Oh, 20s. Anyway, the data is not insufficient. It's standardized. Just because you guys don't like the data doesn't mean it's wrong. Along with that, we you guys have all admitted. According to E! Plano gets 44 million in value from dart, and yet the city is trying to replace it with 4 million. That is not excellence. Thank you. Crystal Curry I do. Right. Good evening everyone. As she mentioned I'm Crystal Curry. I am still dealing with a lot of what I call malicious mischief around the city. So I'm continuously highlighting those concerns the best way that I possibly can. Things heighten and then they abate. And I've learned just to document those things and pass them along as they they happen. So I've been following up with congressional representatives to make sure that this issue is is heard with them. Right. So you guys are aware of who those people are. So those people are the ones that I named at the last couple meetings. Those are the representative congresswomen, Julie Johnson and also Congresswoman Crockett, Jasmine Crockett, and then the other Congress representatives are Pat Fallon. Unfortunately, I called his office and the woman, the intern Sharika that I spoke to said that there's nothing that they plan to do with this issue, which I find very disappointing, obviously. But I think that the reason is because they don't know what to do. So I am a part of that is I'm asking them to escalate this to the congressional committee, which I think would likely fall under the AI committee. That's the only place that I know that can handle something this complex and of this magnitude. So at this point, that's the the direction I feel like I should go because I don't really have anything else or know anywhere else to go. And so I'm continuously following up with you guys and, you know, just to let you know what's going on, to give you an update and also to ask if you know that last page of the slide deck, I said, hi, how can Plano help? You know, if you have any, you know, ways that I listed a bunch of things on there. There's any update on that. I would appreciate hearing from you about that. And other than that, you know, my mother just sent me a picture of my my grandmother, my great aunt, which is my grandfather's sister, and she's Indian. She's a very beautiful woman. But the reason I brought that up is because part of this fight is for them. They paid the price already for me to have the freedom to do this. So thank you anyway. But thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it. The next speaker is Arthur Allen. Mr. mayor, members of the Council, thank you for your time. I'm really glad that the previous presentation covered the property at Davis Elementary and the other properties around the city. I, I my main purpose in coming here was to make sure that the chart that was shown in that presentation was shown. I think that some of the concerns of the residents in the area is that the city hasn't even bought this property yet, but they already have designs for all these houses, apartments and so forth. And a lot of residents really feel like it's a done deal. And I think that we say will make a difference. But I hope that you do look at the data as our elected officials. I hope you look at the wishes of the people, and I hope that we can come up with some kind of plan for a park or some kind of public use, instead of either public housing or private housing, and that's about it. That's what I had. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Shannon Van Slyke. Sorry I'm a little slower. Hi, I'm Shannon Van Zack. I live in the Durham Armstrong School section where the residents are, and I appreciate that. Those slides show that they had lots of neighborhood interviewing for people to come in and, and sit down and talk. I didn't know about it, and I live directly in that neighborhood. I didn't get a flier. I didn't see a sign. I have not been asked. I work in the community, I own a business in the community, and I get my information basically from people that have heard something or read something or found a snippet somewhere. Can we put a sign up somewhere where we can, you know, Google it, or there's a this is the site to go to for our schools that have closed. This is the property, this is where it's going to be set because we I've heard two condos houses, we've heard, you know, just everybody is speculating. I don't know that anything has been done or hasn't been done or decided, but the people that live in these neighborhoods and the residents, we don't know that. And it's not being well communicated from you all to us. So if we could do a better job with that, that would be amazing. Thanks. Thank you. Tracy Woods. Tracy Woods. Lester Nelson. Alvin Nelson. Oh, okay. Okay, great. Okay. Hello. My name is Lisa Nelson, and I'm here to speak on behalf of my daughter, Sonya Reese. Sonia is a 19 year old, nonverbal, severely disabled young woman who depends on us for every single aspect of her daily life. Tonight marks 320 days since she was abused by her teacher, Sharon Roseborough, on video inside her Plano ISD classroom. Before anything else, I need this community to understand exactly what was done to my daughter. Sharon Roseborough bent her fingers backwards, nearly touching her forearm. You can hear the crackling. She squeezed Sonia's feet so hard, damaging her foot. She elbowed her in the face and then again in her head, causing my daughter to slide down into her wheelchair, then lifting her up by her neck to force her upright in her wheelchair. Every time my daughter was assaulted, she cried out in pain. Because of this abuse, Sonia has lost range of motion in her neck and struggles to bear weight on her feet. When she's placed in her stander, she startles when a spoon comes near her mouth because they used to scare her in the classroom for fun. If I assaulted Sonia in one of the ways Sharon Roseborough did right now, I would be in handcuffs in 30s. Sharon did all of them on video and she's still free. The evidence is overwhelming. So let me summarize where we stand. Video evidence exists, audio evidence exists. Medical documentation exists. Adult Protective Services found, abuse and endangerment Pisd staff confirmed excessive and abusive force, and after 320 days, there are still no arrests, no indictment and no accountability. Plano police withheld this felony case for 303 days, and after I sent certified letters, the only thing I received was a victim supporting mailing. Two weeks ago, over 300 days later, the Da office now said it could take months just for a prosecutor to see this case. Meanwhile, across Collin County, a teacher and Anna was arrested in three days and indicted within months. And in Plano, a daycare worker arrested three days after her incident. So first, I would ask for you guys to publicly support the indictment and prosecution of Sharon Roseborough. Second, initiate a transparent review into why Plano police withheld a complete felony case nearly a year. Thank you. Alvin Nelson. Good evening. My name is Alvin Nelson. I'm also the father of Sonia Reese here, her parent, and she's a 19 year old, as you know, severely disabled, nonverbal young woman. And she cannot speak or defend herself. For 320 days, our family has been trying to navigate a system that has given us only a delay, silence and no meaningful communication. The plan of the police department has held a complete, completed felony case for 303 days before finally forwarding it to the district attorney. And during that time, my wife and I have reached out repeatedly through emails, phone calls and certified letters to the mayor, the chief of police, the city manager and police. Three no one responded, not even to our certified mail. And the only acknowledgment we have received was a victim support packet mailed more than 300 days late, and only after our certified certified letters force the city's hand. Now we've reached, we have reached the District Attorney's office, and we are told the case has not even been processed and could take months before prosecutors even assigned. Nearly a year of delay at the city level has now become a delay at the county level as well. Yet we look across Collin County and the pattern for other victims is undeniable. As my wife stated and ISD, I remind you, the teacher was arrested in three days. Princeton ISD there was an indictment and arrest. Within months. Celina ISD there was immediate arrest. And then, as she mentioned, Plano Daycare there was arrested within three days. Every one of these children received faster protection and faster justice than my daughter Sonia. And the only difference is that she is disabled and I cannot speak for herself. This council has an opportunity to demonstrate real leadership, to acknowledge the 300 and 303 day delay, to address the communication failures, and to assure that disabled victims receive the same urgency, humanity and protection as every other child in Collin County. For 320 days, my daughter has waited for justice. My daughter cannot speak, so I must speak for her until the city responds with accountability she deserves. Thank you. Thank you. Bill Lyle. Good evening. Council bill Lyle, Plano, Texas. Admittedly, I have missed the bus on this issue and it's not a Dart bus. Back on November 10th, item J was on your consent agenda and it dealt with the new fees from the engineering and Planning department. And I wanted to just speak up about a lot of these fees. A lot of them have just jumped by ten times. Some $30 fees are now $350. A specific one I want to bring your attention to is a planning director interpretation. It used to cost $0, but now if you have a question of the planning director and it requires an interpretation, it's $2,400 to get that question answered. If your only means of dealing with that, if you disagree with her answer and you think the ordinance actually says something else is to appeal it, the appeal to the Planning and Zoning Commission is a final determination. And if you want to appeal it, it's another $2,400. I don't think that these fees are consistent with what it would cost. I think that I mean, the interpretation is dealing with a discrepancy in the zoning ordinance with an aggrieved party. And so I understand if you have to prep and the planning director knows the ordinance is what I'm saying. The one that I brought many years ago was what is the inside and what is the outside of a curb? That was the question. The planning director said that the inside of the curb was the outside, and I was saying that the actual outside outside was the outside. You'll recall you were on the planning and Zoning committee to do that today would cost me $4,800. You're the one commissioner at the time that voted that the planning director was wrong. So my encouragement these fees go back into effect on January 1st. Take a look at them. I think that if you don't, the state will probably get involved as they have in other things. It's it's not a threat. I just I think that the fees ought to be reasonable. I don't think that this specific fee with the planning director's interpretation is consistent with an open, accountable or transparent government. Thank you. Ian Graham. Hello. My name is Ian Graham. I'm an electrical engineer at Texas Instruments, and I lived in Plano since I started at T three years ago. In that time, I don't own a car. I've used Dart to commute to and from work every day. If Plano leaves the dart, I'll have to move. I don't want to, but that's I love Plano. I think it's a great city. I enjoy living here, but I mean, that's just how it would be. My commute would be severely disrupted, and since that's something that I have to do every day, there's just no getting around that. I just wanted to take the time to register that to the city council, because this is something that would, as I said, just require me to uproot my life and move somewhere where I wouldn't enjoy it as much. So thank you for your time. That's all I really wanted to say. Thank you. Felicia Takino. Okay. I've had lots of rides. My name is Felicia Takino. I am speaking on the Armstrong property. I don't know if this is the time to do that or if I should wait. Okay, I am Native American, native Texan. The reason that I say that is over where Armstrong is, there is a lot of nature there. We used to go hunt for arrowheads in that creek. My parents and I have been residents there for 56 years. We were the first house in the neighborhood. I understand that you all are considering housing. We don't want that. We want to keep it a nature preserve. It is so peaceful back there. You know, Doctor Wayne Hendrick, when he built Armstrong, which my parents were actually on the committees to build, Armstrong on the committee to bring a senior high on our side of town, Plano East, on the committee to bring a college to Collin County, because the only thing we had was Dallas community doctor Wayne Hendrick, when he thought of the plans for Armstrong, he also pulled the neighbors. He wanted to keep it the the school, but he wanted to keep it natural around the school. He wanted to keep East Plano natural. West Plano was the urban side. East Plano was the natural side. When you walk through there, the nature preserve that is back there, Bob Woodruff Park, it is such a sense of calm and peace. You can hear the trees wrestling. You can you can feel the breeze. You know, we need places like that in Plano. We can't just urbanize everything, you know, peace of mind, you know, nature, teaching the children, hunting for arrowheads. So this is near and dear to my heart. It's near and dear to my parents heart. My mother is extremely upset. She didn't make it tonight, but it hurts her heart to to know that, you know, we chose this area. The neighbors who live here chose this area for the purpose of of nature. It's beautiful over there. Please don't ruin it by building more houses, townhomes that can be built anywhere. Thank you, thank you. The last speaker is Harper Weaver. Hello, Council. Can you hear me? Okay. I'm sure that many of you are expecting me to talk about the the schools. Since I ran for school board and met a lot of you and got to know you personally during that. But tonight I'm signed up to talk about race and the treatment she's gotten as well. I've seen the videos they're available for you to, if you have the courage to watch them, because they truly are horrible. I tried to go back through and imagining my kids. I have an eight, six and three year old going through any kind of similar treatment, and I can't make it through the whole video. So when I watch them in that context. I do. I'm not sure what's holding things up. I've not been a part of that conversation, but 350 days compared to some of the time frames that she read and her or her parents read earlier does seem unjust. And I really, really hope the reason isn't just that she can't talk for herself, because that would make a heartbreaking situation even more heartbreaking. And that's all I can take. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, let's set it. Let's move on to the consent agenda. The consent agenda. The consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion and contains items which are routine and typically noncontroversial. Items may be removed from this agenda for individual discussion by a council member, the city manager. Any citizen presiding officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests. Okay, Mr. Mayor, I move that we accept the consent agenda as presented. Second, thank you. I have a motion and a second to approve the consent agenda. Please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Next item. Items for individual consideration. Public hearing items. Applicants are limited to 15 minutes presentation time with a five minute rebuttal if needed. Remaining speakers are limited to 30 total minutes of testimony time, with three minutes assigned per speaker. The presiding officer may amend these times as deemed necessary. Nonpublic hearing items. The presiding officer will permit public comment for items on the agenda not posted for a public hearing. The presiding Officer will establish time limits based upon the number of speaker requests, length of the agenda and to insure meeting efficiency, and may include a cumulative time limit. Speakers will be called in the order the requests are received until the cumulative time is exhausted. Item number one. Public hearing and comment on the consolidated Annual Performance Evaluation Report describing the use of federal funds. This report details how the city used the US Department of Housing and Urban Development funds during the 20 2425 grant year. The public will be given an opportunity to speak on the report during the public hearing. Good evening Council, Curtis Howard, again director of Neighborhood Services. Just as a little bit of history, one of the things that we do is when dealing with HUD funding, we present a five year consolidated plan here and our comprehensive plan, and we have done that. We did that. I think it was in April. We presented that to council as we get ready or we just started this one, this five year session, we are now providing you information on the last year and how we spent the funding that that we received for, for basically from HUD and some of the other funding that we got. So HUD requires us to do this. And so this is basically just that accounting of how we used funding over the past year. So outlines kind of what goals we've met, what accomplishments we've met and where we're going. So just a little bit we had 1.5 million in CDBG funding and 415,000 in home funding. And then the Buffington Community Services grant, which comes from the general fund. We had just under 600,000 for that. And so what did we do? So what we look at is we look at HUD goals. So decent housing is one of them. And so home repairs. So we did so several basically emergency assistance or rehabilitation for the city of Plano. Things that the city actually does. You can see some of that emergency assistance is going to be things like Aces that we get or electrical panels. We also did some some housing rehab. And then we also work for habitat for humanity. And so we had a couple of of habitat homes that we worked on. So for 20 for a total of 25 households here. So for the HUD goal of suitable living environment, we also fund other other nonprofits here. And so for Texas Muslim Women's Foundation. So they provided assistance to 17 domestic violence survivors. Our homeless prevention program, the Collin County Assistance Center, provided assistance to 84 people. City House, the funding that we provided got 44 young adults, some assistance there and then also Samaritan in. As you can see, we had 75 people that were assisted through the Samaritan in. So other grant funding that that we used. So this is going to be home funding here. So home based or tenant based rental assistance, Catholic Charities, which we contracted with them, I think it was in June to start providing some tennis tenant based rental assistance. And so they provide that assistance and also case management. So within that period of time they helped six households. Also Texas Muslim Women's Foundation on both either home ARP tenant based rental assistance or homeless prevention. And you can see that we provided assistance to eight households on on on one side and then three households on the other. And then that Buffington Community Services grant. And this is this goes to a lot of the social services that we have here. And you can see just, you know, kind of that, that, that assistance, whether it's case management or counseling or whatever else, almost 9000 people. And then a Texas Department of Housing, Community Affairs, the funding they gave us provided rapid rehousing to 20 people. And then finally, we provided some assistance to Bella House, which provided assistance to six women and children in their mission. And with that, that is all I have. So do I have any questions about how we spent HUD funding? Thanks, Curtis. Any questions? Councilmember Levin thank you. Mayor Curtis, how does this compare to some previous years in relationship to the dollar spent and the citizens served? You know, I have not really looked at the over the period of five years. I think we're probably pretty close. I think there's a couple things that, you know, some of the things, some of the issues that we have are that we never meet our goal, which has been historically what we've some of the problems we've had with the transportation or job assistance programs, and we've always had problems in those areas over the past few years. So but as far as the other, I'm going to say that we're pretty close to being on par. But I'd have to check and I can I can get those numbers for you, Councilman. Thank you. And thank you for a very comprehensive report. Yes, sir. Thank you. All right. Thanks, Curtis. I'll open the public hearing. There are no speakers on this item. I'll close the public hearing. We'll move to item two. Item number two, public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in zoning case 20 2328 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City Ordinance Number 2015, five two as heretofore amended. Rezoning 215 acres of land located on the west side of Jupiter Road, 490ft north of Parker Road in the city of Plano, Collin County Texas from agricultural to residential community design. Directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the city, providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. All right. Good evening, mayor, council and executives. I'm Christina Day, the director of planning, here to present zoning case 20 2328 to you. So this is a somewhat unusual request. It is 215 acres. We don't often get zoning cases this large. The subject property we're looking at tonight is located between K Avenue and Jupiter Road, south of Spring Creek Parkway. The Plano Event Center is located directly to the north. Collin College and the Oak Point Recreation Center are to the east across Jupiter Road, Shawnee Park and a single family neighborhood are located directly to the south, with additional residential neighborhoods to the southeast, and then the US highway 75 corridor is across K Avenue, with corridor commercial zoning to the west. This is a request to rezone from agricultural zoning to the Residential Community Design, or RCD zoning district. It is again 215 acres of land, and it falls under the Envision Oak Point Small Area Plan, which I will discuss more. One of the unique things about this request is although it is zoned agriculture, the Senate recently or the state of Texas recently passed Senate Bill 15, which would allow the site to develop with 3000 square foot single family lots. So although it is agricultural zoning, there is residential development permitted by right today. So a little bit about Envision Oak Point, which is the controlling land use plan for this property, was adopted in 2018 after extensive, extensive public outreach. It covers 700 acres in northeast Plano. It included several months of outreach with public workshops stakeholder committee surveys, and meetings with boards and commissions. So it was a very extensive process that resulted in the adoption of a plan. That plan included a vision statement, and the community feedback led to this statement that you see on your screen that says Plano Point enhances community establishing place by unifying Northeast Plano, a social hub connecting the diverse population with a network of natural features and civic spaces. So this is really what we're looking toward in the plan. The plan also includes a vision map that is essentially a miniature future land use plan for this area that includes a variety of different future land use types. This is referenced in the Comprehensive Plan as the guiding document for this area. Provides land use, open space, and building characteristics for the subject property. It also provides guidance on mobility enhancements for the area. You see local streets and thoroughfares running through the site, as well as pedestrian connections, transit locations, and pedestrian crossings all suggested through the planning process. The plan includes six major goals, each with a set of policy guidance. For example, the plan recommends creating balanced neighborhoods and diverse housing. Walkable, connected community with great streets, accessible open space, and green networks. It seeks to to preserve the agrarian character of the neighborhood. That's something we consistently heard from people through the public outreach process. Establish a vibrant neighborhood center and use environmental placemaking strategies. Many of these items you'll hear about through the request tonight. So how has this been implemented so far? The major project that we've seen so far come out of the Envision Oak Point plan is Assembly Park, which redeveloped out of the Plano Market Square Mall property. It's now a mixed use project, including office, dining and open space amenities, as well as housing. A second project that you've seen impacted is the Plano Event Center property, which is immediately north of the subject property this evening, which is the layout of the Plano Event Center. Property has been impacted with infrastructure impacts as well as a rezoning of this property to align with the Envision Oak Point plan. So now we'll get into the specific zoning request. What is residential community design? Well, it is a zoning district that was just created in January 2021. It's relatively new. It was amended in 2023. It is a companion to Neighborhood Business Design, which is the zoning to the north on the Plano Event Center property. They're meant to work together, collaboratively and really design to help implement Envision Oak Point, as well as some other needs in the community. It is similar to a mixed use zoning district that you have seen, like a urban mixed use zoning district, because it requires adoption of a development plan. So that is in your packet this evening as part of the zoning, it requires a governance association to manage amenities. It requires specialized streets, sidewalks and open space standards. As part of the zoning. You can also adopt exceptions to the base zoning district, like a planned development district as part of this zoning. And there are three tiers of housing within the district, so tier one is the least dense type of housing that's required to be at least 50% of the units. Tier two is the medium density housing within, and it can be up to 50% of the units. And then tier three are only permitted for Rcdi, where there's only over 100 units, and it cannot exceed 25% of the total units. And then to encourage a mix of housing types, no individual type may be less than 10% of the units within the district. So the development plan lays out how these mix of housing will work together. There are three subdistricts. Subdistrict A includes the tier one through three housing sub. District B includes what's called tier four housing, which is unique to this district in implementing the mixed use center portion of the Envision Oak Point plan, and then subdistrict C includes a rural preserve which again plays off of the land use types in the Envision Oak Point plan, and also allows single family zoning to occur for future single family development. There is a four lane thoroughfare proposed both east west and north south. Consistent with the plan, and as well as a substantial amount of open space, a phasing plan is included, and there are exceptions to the base zoning that help implement the plan. So how does this line up? You can see Envision Oak Point Community Vision map on the left side of the screen, and the proposed development plan on the right side of the screen and the sub areas lined up. So is it perfectly aligned? Not exactly. You can see the roundabout is a little bit off. But you know, in looking at the lay of the land, this is a fairly precise representation and a good mix of uses. You can see how the open space generally aligns with the envision map, as well as the land uses are consistent with what was envisioned through the planning process. So subdistrict A, let's get into the kind of details here. It includes 298 units in tier one, which is are shown in red. In tier two there's 232 units. Those are shown in the gold color, and tier three are 66 units. Those are three units per lot. That's 11% of the housing. So that's a total of 596 units, with 30.7 total acres of open space. So that's kind of in its purest sense. The zoning district. And that helps implement these different land types within the Envision Oak Point plan. The single family mix, small lot subdivision, neighborhood Edge, which allows a transition to with commercial uses. Commercial uses are not required, but they are allowed in those areas. And then of course, parks and open space. Subdistrict A also includes the connectivity that you'll see through between the roundabout and K Avenue trails and open space, consistent with the proposed master plan in Envision Oak Point. So on to subdistrict B, the housing and subdistrict B is a different, unique type that's not within our CD. It's actually an exception. It's 1052 tier four units. The heights are color coded here, so you can see the two story units in red sort of ringing the exterior of the property along Jupiter, as it's closer to the residential neighborhoods to the east, and then on the south side of the property, where more single family was proposed in Envision Oak Point. And then it transitions to higher, taller uses in the interior of the property, with some three story units along the north south type D thoroughfare, open space within this property is also 2.8 acres, or 6% of the of the area. So this is the location of of subdistrict B. You can see it is in the mixed use activity center, which calls for typical heights of 2 to 4. Story being the social hub as well as some single family types within along that east west collector. It is immediately south of the Plano Event Center property, and meant to help activate that property by providing additional uses and open space and connections there. So you can see we've laid the plan for the Plano Event Center and the zoning exhibit there to the north, where the stars located in the center of the screen. So you can see how the roads connect for the plan on the Plano Event Center property and how those will integrate with time as both properties develop. Finally, subdistrict C is something that's very unique. It is a rural preserve, and this is something that was proposed both consistent with Envision Oak Point and with the property owners vision. It provides a mix of uses, commercial uses that are going to be, I think, the very interesting kind of glue for this project that makes it so special. Farmers markets, food trucks, assembly halls like an event venue, garden centers, shopping retail restaurants things that would draw people in to the. But in a historic kind of agricultural context are what's being proposed here. So I think it's going to be something very special. The owner is proposing and through the zoning to preserve some of the historic buildings on the site. So I think it's going to be a very special place that will be unique and make this project something that's really different from what you would see in a most subdivisions. There is open space also through here at 3.3 acres, and there's also in the lighter yellow color, a family preserve that allows the family to retain single family residences on the property and continue to live there. So part of that rural preserve is incorporating some of the existing conditions. The stone walls, the silos and some of the historic properties, reusing those in a way that gives it unique agricultural character. That's again consistent with the plans guidance. So subdistrict C, these are the use types that are shown in Envision Oak Point. So you see it specifically calls out rural preserve parks and open space neighborhood edge and a single family mix. So it's we believe this meets and is consistent with the vision for this area. So overall this is a comparison again between the Envision Oak Point plan and the proposed development plan. And so we can see how those align between the proposed map and the proposed development plan. So streets and connectivity are a key part here. The red larger arrows show the type D thoroughfare, the east west thoroughfare and the northern thoroughfare that connects up into the Plano Event Center property that is four lane median divided with parking on one side. It is a new type of thoroughfare that's called out specifically in Envision Oak Point. It has street trees. It has large side paths, essentially trails that run along either side. So it's a pretty unique type D thoroughfare, unlike others within the city. Also, we have our mixed use local and collector streets that also provide on street parking and wider sidewalks. So there are alleys and paseos and unique type of streets. And just the whole urban design component here is very different than something that you would see in a typical neighborhood. So you can see again how this lines up with the proposed with the Envision Oak Point map and how it aligns very, very closely to the actual scale of what is in Envision Oak Point with the cross section of the street. So open space, 17% of the gross acreage is proposed as public open space. That's 37 acres. And one of the unique elements here is that there are design elements that are required to meet Envision Oak Point for sustainability and stormwater efficiency. So things like bioswales, filter strips, rain gardens are part of this public open space. So again, creating that natural natural features that will be more sustainable for the future. The phasing plan includes. Phase one is the green area in the upper right corner of the plan. That is the tier one units there are required to build a single family phase with the multifamily phase. It also includes the roads associated with that phase and the northern and eastern extensions there of the type D roadway. Phase two of the multifamily requires an additional phase of single family and and also requires nonresidential construction. So we will get that family reserve started working with that second phase of of residential development. We want to make sure the commercial development comes online. So any phase then west of the roundabout will require the east west extension of the type D thoroughfare to be fully built. So we'll have a connection to make sure traffic can get through to K Avenue. So other considerations that are unique. There's green infrastructure components. There's universal design elements in this zoning district. Again consistent with plan components, preservation of those heritage structures. Architectural review by the director and a development agreement for phasing in participation. So in summary, this would provide 1648 units of housing along with 37 acres of open space. It's been found to meet the vision map, goals and policies of the Envision Oak Point Plan, and there is an associated development agreement that outlines phasing and cost participation that was earlier on the agenda. So as far as public feedback, the property owner has provided letters of support. As far as within the 200 foot boundary. We received two letters of opposition. Then citywide, we have 13 letters of support or 13 responses and support, two that are neutral and 84 in opposition, one outside Plano for 100 total responses. The Planning and Zoning Commission did recommend this case for approval by a vote of 8 to 0, and I'm available for questions you might have. Thank you. Christina. Any questions for staff Council member care? Yes, I have a couple questions. I think you've actually hit all many of the things I was looking at, for example, how much green space there is, 30 some odd acres. Does it align with the the plans that we've had, like future land use, undeveloped land use, envision oh point? It does. Does it provide a variety of housing stock that we're looking for? It does. One thing I'm just kind of curious about is does the design agreement sort of fix into place what the structures will look like or the the exterior, the facade of the buildings, homes and multifamily? The development agreement does include a elements of facade review and elements of material required material requirements for residential structures. So both of those are included. Thank you. The the four lane thoroughfares, that's something that has been around for a long time as part of a Vision Oak Point. And it's related to density or yes, it's related to the overall master plan. We had traffic engineers that were part of that planning process, and that was a recommendation, really, for the overall circulation of the area, not just the circulation related to the new units that were coming online. And when it comes to SB 15, at what point does that no longer become an option? Is it when we approve zoning or when does that happen? It has it is for unplatted property. So I would say probably the initial trigger is going to be the platting of the property. Okay. So if there's no platting for five acres then it could still be eligible for. Right. Exactly. Okay. Thank you. That's everything. Councilmember Horne thank you mayor. Great presentation. Miss Day, I do have a question about clarification here. When we looked at the phasing here, particularly with regards to the apartments, you somewhat mentioned there was going to be some single family construction along at the E Street. Is that correct? I think what what I read in this is really the only thing that they're going to install is they're going to construct E Street, and then they're going to have the utilities and pad sites prepared for future construction. I don't think everything I read. So can you clarify that? Okay. When you refer to E Street, are you referring to the exhibit in the D.r, the development agreement? No. What? Well, it was part of the day. Yes. But also when you look at your this figure right here, that you're presenting it to us, you have you have actually C and D streets and then you have E1 and E2. And my understanding from looking at the documents before us that the construction of the single family homes to the west of E Street, that's not those homes will not be constructed in phase two of when they start completing the apartments. I it was my understanding and all they were going to do is run the underground utilities and prepare the pad sites. Did I misinterpret that they need to plat the lots in a single family phase, I believe. Let me double check the. But you're saying the single family tract one, which is the red tract, right? Okay. That's correct. Look at the ordinance. Mr. Bell. If you can find that faster than I am, feel free to answer. That's correct. It's a final plat, so the lots would be laid out, but the homes are not necessarily constructed by that time. But part of the development, they'll have the plats. Okay. Are they going to prepare the pad sites and run the utilities? Yes. That's part of the final planning requirements. Okay. Great. Thank you. I just want to get clarification there, because I didn't want anybody to think that all of a sudden there would be single family homes popped up right there. Right. They'll be ready for they'll be ready for building permit. Is the idea. All right. Thank you. Thank you for the clarification, mayor Pro Tem, my questions are very simple, okay? My brain can't handle that. So my understanding is to envision Oak Point plan was something that was put together many years ago, I would assume, by my predecessor, Angela minor, as well as Pat minor. Yes. Who sat in this chair and they and with the PNC basically came to a consensus that this is something that they would like to see happen in the east side of Plano. Am I correct about that? That that is correct. They participated in the process and then they came up with this baby. It's really Angela's baby because she tells me that every time when I see her, don't forget, don't forget about the Oak Point vision, the Envision Oak Point. So, so at this point, the developer is willing, even with SB 15, which allowed them my understanding is which allowed the legislature basically says, look, you guys have an agricultural land, you guys could build whatever you guys want in in little tiny lots on agricultural land. Is that what SB 15 is all about? Yes. Large lots? Yes. So they didn't have to come to us. They could just go into these lands and start building little tiny lots and then build a whole bunch of them. And it just massive cover these, these areas. Is that right? That's right. But instead they want to honor the Oak Point Envision Oak Point plan. They want to follow the the vision that was proposed multi years ago by our by my predecessor and and the predecessor of the current PNC. And they want to build it in accordance with the plan that's currently in place. Is that right? That is correct. And in exchange for that they're asking that a certain zoning be adopted so that they could basically implement the Envision Oak Point plan the way that it is designed to be. That is right. All right. So with that, they also are willing to sacrifice their rights under SB 15 in order to do so. That's why they're coming to us. Right? I think that would be an excellent question for them when they make their presentation. But, you know, once they start plotting these in smaller lots, they will forgo those rights under SB 15. And that would be under the agreement that they they're proposing to, to to sign with the city. Right. And they're doing that voluntarily. Nobody I mean, they're not they're not asking, you know, to for privileges other than what they're already entitled to. Right. So, so at this point, the only thing that I'm concerned about is the, the esthetic of what is going to be built. We've gotten multiple, multiple feedback from certain apartment complex that that I guess it was built by the same developer that wasn't approved by us. But so we want to make sure that the esthetic of these development is going to match the nature natural preserve, that is, or the East side, as well as it will basically preserve the heritage part, the historical heritage part of East Side. That. And is that something that we have a say into in exhibit E within the development agreement? They've provided renderings. So you can take a look at those and they can address that in their presentation as well. That's fine. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. I'll open the public hearing. The first speakers are the applicants. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Council staff Todd Moore, 37, 21 North Jupiter Road in Plano, Texas. 75074. I appreciate the opportunity to present this zoning case to you. It's been a long time coming, and we're certainly excited to to get moving forward with this. I do want to take a minute, though. I'm going to have to give Christina's staff a lot of credit for the Envision Oak Point. She really championed that that function. And it really, I think, is going to be a great asset to the city if we can get this project going. I was a participant in the Envision Oak Point in 2018. I was a stakeholder. I wanted to sell a portion of property, and Christina came to me and said, hey, I'd really like for you to participate in this exercise with the city. And I think it really did the city a lot of good. The East side's always been neglected. It's never been first priority on the list, and this kind of moved the East side up to really gain some attention. Covid hit in 2020. You know the market for real estate wasn't very good thanks to a couple of friends of mine. I was introduced to High Street and the Trammell Crow Group with Kevin Hickman and Joel Behrens, and they put together a fantastic planning team. I mean, you cannot find a better team anywhere in the country, maybe anywhere in the world. They have terrific engineers, great architects. And with that, I would like to just turn it over to them and let you let them give you the presentation. Thank you. And I'll be around for answer any questions. Good evening. My name is Joel Behrens with Trammell Crow Company. My address is 2100 McKinney, suite 800, Dallas, Texas 75 201. You know, thank you, Todd, for those comments. You know, it's a privilege to be here tonight and present to you our shared vision. And I think you're going to see that it's it's shared by many. I think Christina did a great job just showing the work that's gone gone into the plan to get here tonight. I did want to provide just a little historical context. About 90 years ago, Todd's grandfather made his first purchase of land in Plano and operated the W Lee Moore Stock Farms. Over the years, their holdings grew to 1200 acres. As you can see on the screen, the Moore family farm, which many of us know as Lavon Farms, has a long history of producing many grand champion and All-American dairy cows. And while Todd wouldn't tell you that because he's too humble, I do think it's an important part of the history and how we got here tonight. And you might wonder, why is he talking about dairy cows? And for those that watch the Planning Commission, I'll make the same joke. I am from Wisconsin. I do like cheese, but that's not the reason why I'm bringing it up. I have firsthand experience on this topic. You know, I lived in Texas for going on 18 years. I like to say I have three little Texans at home, but I'll never be one because I wasn't born here. But I did grow up on a small dairy farm in Wisconsin, and I know the hardest thing a farmer can do is sell his farm. We still have our six generations later, like Todd and his family, the decision to sell the family farm is one of the hardest decisions a farmer will make in their lives. You can't have the level of success farming that Todd and his family have had. If you don't love what you do and when you love what you do, you know how do you stop doing it? Simply put, Todd loves farming and he loves his farm. There's no better evidence of that than the fact that over the period of their ownership, Plano has seen over 40,000 acres of land going to development. Meanwhile, the Moore's waited. Today, Lavon Farms represents the largest greenfield site in the city. Clearly, Todd and his family did not rush into the decision. However, the success and growth of Plano made tonight inevitable. When they bought their first piece of land. The population we look back was about 1500. We all know today it's almost 300,000, as you can see on the screen over that 90 year ownership, I think they've been great stewards in their land, with over 50% of it being preserved for parkland and park space. And while Todd and his family have a long history in Plano, just a little bit of commercial on who we are. If you don't know, we have a long history in Plano as well. Over the last 20 years, we built around 3,000,000ft■!S of corporate offe hospitals and as well as the first multifamily high rise in Plano in the legacy business park. And for those that don't know, we're founded in Dallas by the man on the screen, Trammell Crow, in 1948. In 2006, we were acquired by CBRE, which is the world's largest real estate services company, and we are the a wholly owned subsidiary of them. Trammell Crow Company and their residential brand, High Street Residential, are the largest development, is the largest development company in the country. Why is that important? Well, we're local, I think we do a great job of working the community, but also we have the wherewithal to execute on what you're seeing here tonight. With that, I'm going to hand it off to Kevin, and I will be back in a little bit. Thank you. Joel. My name is Kevin Hickman, 2100 McKinney Avenue, suite 800, Dallas, Texas 75201. Honorable Mayor and City Council. We're honored and excited to be here in front of you today. It's interesting, as I started getting up here, a lot of the same themes I was going to highlight, I think Christina hit them all, and that's really the collaboration, the building, a sense of community, the diversity of housing type, the preservation, the agrarian character that our development will have and parks and open space. So first and foremost, as we move through this process, it's been nothing but collaborative. We held two community meetings even before we submitted our zoning application. And, you know, then had another community meeting about 12 months after that. So we submitted our zoning application over two years ago. And, you know, I do have to applaud the staff, fantastic staff. Without them, I don't think we would be watching or seeing the same site plan that we're presenting today. They not only made the site better and the project better for its own community, but for the city as a whole. So thank you, Christina and team. Thank you. As mentioned, we had a total of three community meetings. On the last one, we did mail out over 450 invitations to ensure that we had good coverage. We had all the meetings at the Oak Point Park and Nature Preserve. What a beautiful building and have had countless meetings, even though have 45 up there and had a number of follow up meetings to really share to show that, you know, we went out of our way to try to get the community input. Since the last community meeting, the really development plan has not changed all that much. We've really been focused on negotiating the development agreement with the city and Todd Christina did a wonderful job talking about the Envision Oak Point and everything it contains. You know, from my perspective, I think we use Envision Oak Point as well as the RCD district in the division. Oak point really set the vision, and RCD was the framework for us to be able to execute and develop the plan that we have today. We believe that we were aligned with all the items within there, and most importantly, we're executing the vision that was really provided to us by the community stakeholders and provides you, the decision makers, a really clear policy direction to make, make your decision on. So we've incorporated these key elements into our plan, which certainly, you know, enhances mobility, the economy and sense of community. Talk about the economy. Currently, current assessed value is less than $900,000, with over a $600 million estimated value at full build out. So certainly has an impact on the the overall economic benefit of this area. As Christina noted, you know, we really view this in four different parts the single family home, which we're utilizing, the RC district with three different tiers, the family reserve, the 34, Christina said, 37 acres of parkland and the multi-family zone that has 815 multifamily units, plus 237 for rent townhomes. Certainly the diversity of housing is picked up with the three different tiers that we have in the single family phase, but also the various in the multifamily as well. As Christina noted, don't want to be repetitive, but we are committed to this phasing plan to ensure that multifamily isn't the only product type, and we can speak to that a little bit more during the Q&A because I know there's specific questions, but we wanted to ensure that multifamily wasn't the only thing that was built. And so we have committed to single family home phases with each respective multifamily phase. As it relates to multifamily design. The question these are some of the renderings that are in the exhibit, also in the development agreement that was approved earlier, we have made a commitment and a requirement for us to work with the Director of Planning to get our facade plans approved, and so we've made that commitment. What you see on the screen was intended to be warm color tones, certainly preserving some agrarian character, having that diverse housing mix, really trying to create outdoor spaces that, you know, activates that communal bond. And so we we look forward to working with Christina on getting the facade plan approved on the single family side. Todd has had a very strong vision since day one. You know, he wanted to make sure that all the garages were accessed by the alley and that weren't in the front of the house. And so we have alley access garages and everything on every single home. He wanted to ensure that every yard had a front yard. And where possible, you know, that front yard opened up into a pocket park or open space. And then also the porches scattered throughout it. And so again, he, you know, really focus on creating that sense of community pocket parks and open space and just the diversity of housing with right sized homes in three different tiers of lots. Christina covered the tier threes, the three tiers of lots. And just ending on parks and open space. You know, really about 45% of this project is dedicated right of way parkland and open space. What this slide also does is gives you a good. Visual of how the trails and network really connects the Shawnee Park through our trail system all the way through Oak Point Park. And that was a big, big, big portion of our goal is to try to comply with the envision point and make that connection. From there, I'll turn it back over to Joel. All right. I'll be done in two minutes. Largely because I looked at my watch and it says my heart's at 98. And it's not because I'm nervous. It's because I'm excited to work on something like this for so long with Todd. And to be here tonight, it really is a privilege. Clearly. You know, this photo is taken nearly 90 years ago. I think it's from the 40s, but a lot's changed in Plano since this photo was taken. And I already said, I'll say it again. They've been amazing stewards of their land. But when it became clear that it was no longer practical to farm in Plano, Todd did not take the easy path. He took the right path. He engaged with the community. You know, I've been quoting eight years, Kevin. I've been quoting eight years in terms of 7 to 8 years in terms of planning with the city. On Envision Oak Point. He shared a presentation from 2002 when we were here at Planning Commission late last month. That was the year I graduated college. Blake, the blond haired one in the suit over there, he was three. He's married in 26 now, so this doesn't happen overnight. A lot of work goes into getting to this stage. He did not take the easy path. Why? Well, Todd and his family want future generations to enjoy the land in a way that his family enjoyed it the most. Patients create an opportunity for a world class development that has been shaped by the community. I love the what. I guess it was the Planning Commissioner Brounoff mentioned, planning Commission, you know, is this plan perfect? No, no plan is perfect. We think, you know, to quote him, he said, you know, you can't let perfect be the enemy of good. I think it was a phrase that was used a couple of times at Planning Commission. It couldn't be truer, I mean, to get a plan B where everybody in the room absolutely loves it and has nothing to say about it, I think is impossible. But I think this is pretty close. Tonight you have the opportunity to approve a plan that we think is great. Maybe not perfect, but a plan that's been in the works for over 20 years, a plan that's in compliance with Envision Oak Point, and a plan that received unanimous approval from Planning Commission. So with that, I appreciate your time tonight. We'll turn it over to you for any questions. Get it going. Thank you. Kevin. I'm sorry. Let's go ahead and finish the speakers and then I'll close. The open public hearing. And then we'll let council ask any questions they have. The first speaker is Patrick Spruill. Hello, I'm Patrick Spruill, my Plano resident. I live in the area of this development, and I just have a few concerns, you know, from just a person that a retiree that lives there and of the some of the people I've talked to in the area as well, our concern is in this area, we're building what, little over 1600 apartments, townhomes, residences and right next door we have another apartment complex called Geo Apartments, and they have 700 units right next door. And then across the street is another apartment complex, Assembly Park is 300 apartments. Next door to that is another apartment complex. Sherman. Sherman Park, that's at the corner of Jupiter and Spring Creek, and that has another 300 apartments. And then at Parker and Jupiter as a new development there, another 100 multifamily units there. So that's a grand total of 3000 over 3000 apartments or residences. And they're not all apartments, but three over 3000 residents in small area. So people I've talked to, we're worried about traffic. There's a lot of people have to go through that area every day, go to work, go to the grocery store, whatever. And there's a lot of traffic and people are worried. Also, Collin College, as I've read, because I'm just I'm a citizen. I read the paper on impact and they talk about an expansion of. Collin College across the street from this development, and they looking at an increase of, they say, looking at an increase of 50 to 20% students. So there's already students coming in and out of there pretty regular. I walk by there just about every day and there's cars coming in and out all the time. So we're going to have a, you know, addition of traffic there as well. So. So that's just that's just the concern. There's the traffic. And having 3000 over 3000 residences, it just seems is going to cause the traffic problem. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker is Bill Lyle. Good evening. Council bill Lyle Plano, Texas, and an avid supporter of all things east Plano. So you can't miss this one. One thing Kevin didn't mention to you tonight was that he was our 1995 Berkner Ram mascot. He was he and I went to high school together. And then Todd, I know Todd from the donut shop, and I, you know, I couldn't be more excited about them being successful on this project. I do have a few concerns. One is the residential that backs up to l. I one zoning I saw on slide 56, where it looks like there's a sliver of open space through there. I'm just curious what that setback actually is. I'm concerned about the east west corridor. I know on the future land use or on the future thoroughfare map. There's a connection to US 75, and I see little walking symbols, but I don't know if that connection's been been considered at all on the south side of the creek. That's on the south side of this property, Avenue P dead ends at Sherwood Lane. And so I was surprised that there wasn't a connection because Avenue, if you were going to ride a bike to downtown, you wouldn't want to be on Avenue K or Jupiter. You'd want to be on Avenue P, I guess vehicle traffic is more important because there are connections with the bike trail where someone, if they did want to ride a bike, would come across there. But anyway, I was I was surprised that there wasn't vehicle connection there. Now, speaking more as from a developer mindset, I think part of this is like saving the the rock wall entrance where I go to buy my yogurt and I'm I love the esthetic of that. But I think practically having someone be forced to keep these little rock walls with a narrow gate isn't practical. And so I'd love to see the esthetic of that rural agrarian gate entrance, but it probably needs to be larger. And from PNC, I think it was mentioned that they were going to like, have to save that one. Hopefully I'm wrong there. We heard a lot about SB 15 and what they could do here, but one thing that I didn't hear was what's the average lot size that they are bringing us? Because it looks like pretty small lots. And so what is it and why haven't we been given that information? On for phase one and phase two to get the 500 and the 552 multifamily units, I saw that they had to do a single family phase, but we haven't been told which one they plan on doing on either one of those. And then there seems to be a huge obstacle to going to the west of the roundabout, because if they go to the west of the roundabout, they got to build that whole roadway. And so I think for the short term, what we're going to have is 1000 apartment units and two small single phase units over by Jupiter, which is fine. I just think it'd be good to know which ones are they're planning on doing. I, I did hear a lot of, well, this is good, but maybe it could be better at PNC. And I just wonder if there's some way. Marty out. It's been a while. Oh, really? Well, yeah, but I'll let you finish your thought. The thought is just. I wonder if there's some way to get them started on something that they're ready to get started on and and maybe make it even better. It's hard to be a planning and zoning commissioner. People have been working on this for years, and then they get ten minutes to look at it. And so maybe there's some more work that could be done and still turn the developer loose on what they want to get started on. Thank you for the extra time. Amber Chaffin. Oddly enough, not brought up where the Envision Oak Point oh man, I lost my talking points where the Envision Oak points dart stations that are also in envision. Well, okay, sorry, transit stations that are in the Envision Oak Point plan. Plano's current planning goals reference walkability, affordability, and expanded public transit access. However, this development proposal that's under construction really focuses on housing. The project is adding over 1000 homes, which is going to mean more cars on the road, particularly because I didn't hear how we're going to integrate this better with our walking paths, our award winning trails, as well as our bike lanes. I would not want to ride my bike on Avenue K without confirmed integration of the Dart services or walkable infrastructure. I feel like a development of this scale is going to increase our congestion across the city. Along with that, we have 4% undeveloped land remaining. I remember at one point, some people on this council and maybe other areas wanted us to have no less than 5%. So if we take this raw land and develop it, then we'll be at 4%. Well, yes, they can do this through SB 15. You don't have to. We could leave this to be a nature preserve because it does currently serve as a buffer. Think of the animals. Overall, the residents here have expressed interest in seeing better alignment between your adopted plans and the development decisions. You guys have an opportunity to to pause your vote on this and allow more conversation to occur. Thank you. All right. There are no other speakers. All right. I'll close the public hearing and combine the comments to the council. Councilmember Lavon, thank you. Mayor, I have a couple questions for the developers, and there has been some discussion concern about walkability, connectivity to the surrounding areas. I'm curious about the ability to access the school to the south from the development. Is there is there going to be any kind of cut through or trails and such that would allow students to to walk to school and just in general, can you get around the the development to future retail along the area around the Plano Event Center? Yeah, certainly. So regarding the Shawnee Park and the elementary school, if you can see on the screen, this is kind of our parks and open space. We do have, you know, what you see in in red Arrows and hash. On the south side of the plan is future pedestrian connections. And so that's really the intent is to create those connections between Shawnee Park, the elementary school within our own trail system integrated throughout our project that funnels north. One is a new new trail along Jupiter Road, but there's also shared paths and trails throughout the internal of our of our development. We have multiple opportunities to create trailheads in this area, and that has been our our key goal focus is to to get that connectivity between Shawnee Park and Oak Point Park as it relates to connectivity from the north side of our project, we have again a path along Jupiter Road on the east side, but we also have three different vehicular connections, as well as a 12 inch shared path on the main north south arterial. Was I able to answer your questions? Yes. Thank you, thank you. Ma'am, can you pull up that slide that had that pretty picture of the farm with the sunset behind it? I hadn't seen that before. Oh, the cover page. No. Okay. I also was part of the Envision Oak Point workshops and meetings. And remember meeting Mr. Moore there for the first time and. I've actually dined at the Assembly Park restaurant that has opened recently over there. And so it's exciting to me to see all of this starting to slowly come to fruition. There were some concerns that were brought to my attention. And and it sounds like most of them have been addressed with accessibility. The trails, having some nonresidential opportunities for walkability. Originally, my discussions were more about them being where the multifamily was originally in in the Envision Oak Point plan, but I was pleased to hear that in that family preserve area, that there is opportunity there to put some nonresidential uses that will hopefully bring people together. When I went out and visited the site, Mr. Moore invited me out. I think it was last March. It's been a while, and being in that area, that's that family preserve and learning more about the family's history and and seeing the traffic. Even today, I went over there and sat for a little while and have a following. You have a lot of people coming to visit you already in that area, and hearing your vision for the trails, connecting and having all of this green space and having maybe some food trucks come in and and and preserving what your family has put there. It's exciting to me. It's really exciting to me because sometimes I feel like Plano doesn't have a lot of landmarks. We don't have a lot of, you know, I've worked with artists before that are creating these pretty dishtowels, and they want to put icons of Plano, and we've got the gazebo downtown and we've got hot air balloons and, and and but like, this is beautiful this, this Plano history here. And it's hidden right now. I mean, unless you're going to get yogurt or, you know, I mean, a lot of people don't even know it's there. So the idea of actually inviting more people from the community in to learn the history of Plano and to, to to bring people together in a green space. And I, I do recognize the fact that you could have done a lot more if you were just looking to profit from the land, but you really have put a lot of thought, a lot of heart into this. And one of the first zoning cases that that was before me when I joined the city council in 21, was Haggard Farms, and it was very similar in that that was family property, had been in the family for a really long time, and it was very thoughtfully planned and didn't have to be. But but that was important to the family. And, and I was really proud to be part of the council that approved that. And I appreciate everything that your family has done to create such a thoughtful development. So I would be proud to be on the council that approves. Thank you. This property that we we wanted to plan it that way because, you know, I wouldn't feel right getting rid of it any other way. I mean, there's enough history there that, you know, I felt a real need to try to conserve it. And if we can share it with the public, we'd be more than happy to do that. I'm sure other people have comments, but I'm ready to make a motion to approve this. Well, do I have a second? I'll second. Okay. What what I'd like to do is just go go down the dais. So I'm going to start with you, Councilman care. Thank you, Mr. Moore. As I look at your property and I think about all the things we have to marry together here, the state is asking us to increase density and have a place for people to live. The residents are saying they're don't like multifamily. They're concerned about traffic. We have the heritage concerns of the great property that you have there. I think this project kind of brings it all together. We have housing, we have diversity of housing, we have some multifamily. But it isn't all that. It's preserving the nature of this great spot. So I'm very much in favor of moving forward with this. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Horne. Thank you, mayor like Julie, but actually a little bit different. I was part of the Envision Oak Point planning. I was on the Parks and Rec commission at that time, and I attended those meetings, and there was a lively discussions, if you remember Todd lively discussions. And a lot of it came from students that lived in the apartments across the street. They wanted more places to live, and they were all wanting the same things. What we're targeting here, walkability, retaining heritage, those, those elements. The other one, though, that we talked about, which we really haven't addressed today, was affordability. I mean, granted, that seems to be a tough term to answer Mr. Lyle's question about the size of the lots, those single family threes and single family twos. Those were 3000 square foot lots in 2000 square foot lot bill. Those were listed in in his plans here. So to address your point. But when we go to the smaller lots and we have an architecturally pleasing homes with the porches, wraparound porches and keeping the farm heritage intact, it makes it almost affordable for our first responders. It makes it affordable for our teachers and even for seniors who are wanting to scale down and move into a smaller house. These are perfect for this, so I applaud you for staying with the plan. Not not just rolling over and taking SB 15 to heart. I appreciate all you've done for the city, your family's done for the city, and I also appreciate the fact that you work with a great firm here to get this together. My only other question is timing. Our employers want people to live near where they work, and so I'm just kind of if if you have an idea of a schedule here when we'll start having the apartments, but also when we might start thinking about seeing those single family homes, those models. So there is a phasing plan. As you saw, we will be constructing the first phase of single family residential simultaneously with the first phase of the multifamily, finding builders to build the product that we want is going to be a challenge, but I'm willing to take that on. I don't want to. I want I don't want to offend anybody, but to I don't want to have a track home development. If if I was going to do a track home development, I don't need these guys. I don't need RCD. I can. That's easy and it'll happen in a couple of years with a track home development. But this one, you know, we want to take our time and make sure that we set the tone for the development with the right architecture and the right builders. And so that's there's going to be a lift there. But we are going to be working on it full time and making it go as fast as possible. But it will not be two year build out. It'll be a seven years. What I quoted at the P and Z. I think I, I pretty much agree with that. When I was looking at what you're trying to do here, because we got all the utilities you have to build, you still got the roadways to construct, you got the multifamily to to construct. And then we're doing the utilities and the pad sites. And then you got the platting. It's a seven year project at the fastest. Yeah I think, but anyway we'll be moving full speed ahead. Thank you again. You're welcome. Mayor Pro tem. So the only connection I have is Angela miner, who is my predecessor. And that's the only thing I know. Before she retires, she says, don't forget. Don't forget the Envision Oak Point. I said, okay, okay, whatever that is. So anyway, I'm very thrilled and I'm very excited. I believe that density is always going to be an issue when you're having, you know, growth in population in in the city of Plano, we have a great city. And that's the reason why people keep wanting to move here. But on the flip side of that, I actually live obviously I'm on the East side, so I live on the east side and I am surrounded by 11 apartment complexes in my little housing community, and we don't really feel the impact of traffic because I believe there's really a good regulated roads and traffic. Roads are built to accommodate these type of increased traffic. So that is one thing that I believe that if that is part of the consideration, I think that, you know, it should not be an issue. I love the vision. Obviously, if I didn't, Angela would probably whip me, but other than that, I totally, fully in support. I think anybody who loves Plano like you do will not allow this project to be unchecked and allow this project to be something less than how you feel about Plano. So I'm going to take it on faith that this is this is something that you're going to make us all proud. Thank you. Thank you. Council member downs. Thank you, mayor. Mr. Moore, thank you so much. Thank you for your dedication to the city of Plano. Over all the years. I've enjoyed meeting you as I was campaigning earlier this year and seeing your vision all the way back from Oak Point. I remember hearing all about that and being engaged in it myself. And I think that what you did through this and your hard work is you took all of the best elements of the comprehensive Plan, the history of Plano, and envision a point, and you put it together with something that is going to be a great value to the east side of Plano, and I'm happy to support it. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member Levine. I will just add to what everybody said that I am looking forward to seeing these neighborhoods grow and develop. I think this will be some outstanding housing product for Plano and I. I look forward to the idea that these neighborhoods will really grow and contribute to young families moving in more children and like so more power to you on this and I look forward to it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Council Member Quintanilla thank you mayor. There we go. Just my mic from time to time. Mr. More and more family, thank you so much for bringing this project forward. I know you've traveled a long road so far, and even to this point you've had to relocate your cows because you can't produce as much dairy as it is today. And even at that, you still kept with the project instead of just completely selling your property. So I appreciate you all working with us on that, and I'm looking forward to moving forward with this. And as going last, I'll hand it over to you, mayor. Okay, Todd, it's been a long time coming. I was on that committee too, so I think some of us are lying, but I'm not sure about that. But thanks for your patience and thanks for committing to your ideas of what you wanted to create. It's hard to do, especially as long as you've been at it, but, well, I owe it to the staff. You know, without the RCD, we really wouldn't be able to deliver this really great development. And I'm going to shout out to the engineers and the architects and CBRE. They really lifted it for me. I can be a good dreamer, but I can't do what they did. And so I have to thank them at the same time. Well, with their with their reputation, we're excited about what's to come. And so we wish you the best. And with this I have a motion and a second to approve. Item number two. Right? Yes. Item number two, please vote. Motion passes 8 to 0. Thank you, thank you. Next item. Item number three. Public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025 Dash 16 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City Ordinance Number 2015, 5-2 as heretofore amended, to amend Specific Use Permit Number 56 for commercial antenna support structure on 0.1 acre of land located 225ft north of Democracy Democracy Drive and 220ft east of Partnership Road in the city of Plano, Collin County, Texas. Presently zoned commercial commercial employment, directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the city and providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. Over the weekend, we received a letter from the applicant requesting to table to January 12th, 2026. So that is the that is the request before you this evening. All right. Let me let me open the public hearing. I'll open the public hearing. We have one speaker on this item, Felicia Takino. Accidentally pushed the wrong button. Okay. We don't have any speakers on this item. Okay. Sorry. No. No problem. I was just making sure I want to make sure you could speak. Okay, I'll close the public hearing and confine the comments to the council. Councilmember Kerr. Mr. mayor, I move that we table this to January 2nd. That. All right, I have a motion and a second to table. Item number three. Please vote. Okay. Motion to table 8 to 0. Next item. Item number four public hearing and consideration of an ordinance as requested in Zoning Case 2025 Dash 12 to amend the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance of the City Ordinance Number 2015 five two as heretofore amended, granting Specific Use Permit Number 109 for transit centers. Excuse me. Transit Center Station on 1.1 acre of land located 60ft east of Communications Parkway and 24ft north of Legacy Drive in the city of Plano, Collin County, Texas. Presently zoned planned development 65 Central Business one within the north, the Dallas North Tollway Overlay District, directing a change accordingly in the official zoning map of the city, providing a penalty clause, a repealer clause, a savings clause, a severability clause, a publication clause, and an effective date. All right, this next zoning case, number 12, is a request for a specific use permit for a transit center station. It is on a small piece of property on an existing lot at the northwest corner of Communications Parkway and Legacy Drive. You can see it is zoned planned Development 65 Central Business one, and there's currently a hotel developed on the property. So the purpose of this would be to operate a bus transit service out of the existing hotel. So this is the site plan outlined in orange. You can see the hotel building. There is an existing parking garage immediately to the north of the hotel adjoined. And so the proposal would be to add a bus stop and loading area at the front of the hotel. So the loading area is kind of at the overhang you see on the hotel property. In the photograph at the top of the screen, the riders will be able to utilize the hotel amenities and the development as a whole. One of the restrictions that's placed on this is that the bus will busses will only access the site from Legacy Drive and Communications. They will not access windows because of the traffic that we all know exists on windows. So parking at the hotel, there are 481 spaces required for the hotel use. They have provided a little a few extra spaces at 488. So there are some additional spaces. We've asked the property owner to file a letter that they will avoid nuisances on adjacent properties from this additional use. So they have committed to doing that. And it's in the Sup standards. So the proposed stipulations are in front of you. It would be allowed just as an incidental use to the hotel. So for some reason the hotel were to go away. The bus would no longer be able to utilize it. It won't use windows. They have to be stored outside of temporary parking for passenger loading and unloading, or they must not be stored on the property outside of that one area, and then no more than one bus may be there at a time. Additionally, with regard to parking, we are not going to require them to provide any additional parking on site, but they do have to provide the letter that says they're going to manage parking within the existing structure of parking, and that the council, if there is a nuisance, can do something about it. So this does meet the comprehensive plan, future land use map standards and infrastructure policy. We have no feedback within the subject property or within 200ft. We did get two responses citywide, one in support and one in opposition. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval 6 to 0, and the applicant does have a presentation available for you, and I'm available for questions. Okay. Deputy mayor, no. Council member Horne. Yes. Thank you. Mayor. Question about customer parking. The ones that are going to be using these busses right now, you're saying that they're going to be parking in the hotel garage? I got to be honest, I've never used that garage. But typically hotels charge a fee to park your vehicle there. Are they going to charge a fee to the bus passengers? I would recommend I would confirm this with the applicant, but I have personally used this travel service before in Dallas. Near Love Field, and I did. I parked at a hotel and I was charged by the hotel for the parking, so that is consistent with their business model. To my for my personal experience. Okay, I appreciate it. Councilman care. Christina, who determines which bus service will be able to use this transit spot? It would be the property owner. It's going to be the it will run with the land. And so it's their contract for the questions. Thanks, Christina. Certainly I'll open the public hearing. Mr. mayor, Council members, thank you for having me. My name is Alex Danza. I'm the CEO and founder of a company called Vaughn Lane, who is here to try and enter Plano. I started this business 11 years ago when I realized that Texans needed a third way to get between our great cities. Everybody was driving between our cities that are about 200 miles apart or flying, and the train really wasn't a great option. And so I said, why can't we have a bus service that runs on a schedule that really caters to the business traveler and the discerning leisure traveler? And so my idea was to take a 45 foot motor coach, customize the inside and turn it into what we call a private jet on wheels. And it's 22 seats, large first class oversize seats. You can almost lay flat leg rest. We have an attendant aboard that serves meals, snacks throughout the trip, complimentary Wi-Fi, and our business model really took off. We started with a route between Dallas and Austin, and over the last 11 years, we've been named to the Inc. 500 twice, and we are now in ten cities around the country and like to be in Plano is number 11. And the way we do this is we partner with hotel brands and we use them as, for lack of a better term, our terminal. We don't sell tickets there. It's simply boarding passengers and unloading passengers. And we started with Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth and Austin and realized that there was tremendous value in the ability to put what we call a terminal in close proximity to where people work, play and live. And we did that in the woodlands down in North Houston and Plano seemed as a logical next step for us. And so we run a daily scheduled service between these cities. From Plano, we would go to Austin in the future. We might go to Houston from Plano, for example, and passengers can get aboard. They board within 15 minutes. Takes no time at all to get aboard the coach. You're immediately working, you're productive or you're relaxing and you arrive at your destination. So we're bringing people from Austin to Plano or Plano to Austin. And it's really a truly exceptional travel experience is what we strive for. You can see here with the seats look like leg rest, recline, seat belt, tons of amenities aboard when you're traveling. The beauty of the model is that we partner with these hotels. Like the Renaissance here in Plano. We buy our catering from them, so we become a great customer to them and we bring them room nights. A person coming from Austin, if they're if they're smart, you just get off the coach and check into a hotel right there. It really makes the travel experience seamless. One. We've driven over 31 million safe miles, most of that in Texas. A couple of years ago, we did expand to Atlanta, Nashville, Memphis and Knoxville. In the southeast region, we've served over 2 million passengers, and our reputation is stellar. If you want to check out any of our Yelp reviews, as I said, we partner with great hotel brands. We're excited about partnering with The Renaissance here in Plano. You can see here we've partnered with Hyatt's, Doubletrees, Marriott's and Hiltons in different cities around the country and around the Texas. As far as the parking goes, we do charge our passengers for parking. We don't. The hotel gets that source of revenue, but honestly, I travel aboard our Motorcoaches almost once a week, and ride share is the way our passengers get to and from the vehicles. Those coming from out of town really usually just have a ride share waiting for them when they arrive. And most of our passengers departing town have a loved one family member drop them off or they ride. Share to the to the hotel and get on the coach. And again, it's just in time travel. You arrive ten minutes before I see the power travelers get there five minutes before the doors close. Get aboard. Three hours later, they look up. They're in Austin, they've cleaned out their inbox, or they've relaxed and gotten some or gotten some work done. I'm happy to answer any questions. These slides just give you a look at what what the product is. It's very high end luxury product that brings great travelers to Plano and gives your citizens an option to get to Austin. Thank you. Alex. Council member Lavon, thank you, mayor, and thank you for your presentation. I have also used your service to travel down to Austin on numerous occasions, and I had a great experience. Will you be having the same busses leave the Love Field area coming to Plano and then going to Austin, or this will be separate. The business model that we've stuck to for 11 years is nonstop. I mean, people wanted nonstop service and just adding that stop, if we were to leave from Plano and then stop at the Love Field Terminal, it would just add too much time. So no Plano citizens who board in Plano will go nonstop to Austin. And secondly, how frequent are you thinking about beginning the service? We would do a 6 a.m. departure, a 10 a.m. departure, a 2 p.m. departure and a 6 p.m. departure. So kind of spaced out through the day. Thank you. Deputy Mayor. Sorry, I am a huge fan, I love online, I was thrilled to to have access from Plano and not have to make the commute over to left field. I will tell you that I was at a conference in Austin, and I went ahead and ubered over to the hotel where I was going to catch the online, and the restaurant was closed during the whole time in between. And so you might want to like, make that a requirement that the hotels do have the restaurants open. But yes, love always had excellent service. It's super comfortable, great Wi-Fi, great snacks. I'm I just hope you'll keep adding new destinations from Plano. And my husband travels to Houston quite a bit. And so we're thrilled to have you in. Thank you. We would love that. And Starlink is coming. So the internet's going to get better. Awesome. All right, Council Member Horn, thank you. And I have to say I like Vine Lane, I did I was with Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Homer on our trip to Austin, and it was fantastic. And we had our former councilman, Anthony Richardella, who kept us thoroughly entertained. And but let me tell you, the service was fantastic. I'm excited about the opportunity that you guys pose here for Plano. I don't have to drive to left field to go to Austin. That'd be great. So again, I just want to say it was the service was fantastic. We did have an incident where on return, the bus that was taking us broke down, but the replacement bus came within, I think 10 or 15 minutes if I recall. But you can't complain about the service and the ride was smooth. So thank you, thank you. Council member downs. I support this 100% and do consider Houston Route as a lawyer. I go to Houston for conferences. So if this works out, consider Houston from Plano and mayor. I'd like to make a motion since everyone is supporting this, but no one at this point has made a motion. I know everybody just has a lot of comments so far. Hold on your motion to move to approve. Okay. Sir. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, so I have a motion and a second. Were you finished? Okay. Mayor Pro Tem, I just have some curiosity questions. It has nothing to do with this. We have all the time in the world. A lot of time. So anyway, I am very surprised that there is. I mean, you're proposing to do this on a daily basis, right? Yes, ma'am. So. And then not just one, one trip. I mean, we're talking 6 a.m. 10 a.m. Is there really that much demand right now in Plano? There there is. Yes, absolutely. Basically you would have a pretty much a pack ride when you when you leave here to Austin. It won't be 100% full at the start. And the 6 a.m. trips and the 6 p.m. trips usually lag a little bit, but those midday trips do very well. Thursday, Friday, Saturdays and Sundays, when the leisure travelers come, come it's. You should book in advance. Is that right? So what about Houston? Have you guys done some research as to. We have not started looking at Plano Houston yet, but it's it's a natural next thing to do. For example, we started Woodlands Dallas and now we're going to do Woodlands Austin in in 26. We're much more important than woodland. Yeah. Thank you thank you, Councilmember Quintanilla. Yes I'm probably the oddball here. I fly everywhere and if possible I'll take a helicopter. So but for lack of better words, where is the arrival in Austin? Like where does it where do you. It goes to the arboretum area of Austin. It's the hotel right there in North Austin. Right off. Right off loop one. Gotcha. And mine was just more curiosity, but I will much fly. All right. Well, that was that. That was interesting. I'm sorry. They they just started commenting and I couldn't stop them. But I would love to hear from you. If, I mean, you're you're here to tell us how great everything is. I'm Mallory muse, I'm with Winstead. I'm a land use attorney here to answer questions about the zoning. So thank you for your time. Thank you. So I have a motion and a second to approve. Item number four, please vote. I have all the public comments gone. Okay. Did you get yours, Steve? Okay. All right. Did I not close? I'll close the public hearing. No, we can do them. Do you want to do them again? Okay. All right. Motion passes 8 to 0. There being no further business meetings. Adjourned. Are maintained by private property owners or ho