[Music] [Music] Heat. Heat. N. [Music] Heat. [Music] Heat. [Music] if you don't let you suffer. >> Good evening and welcome. Tonight is Monday, September 29th, 2025. This is a regular meeting of the Minnitankka City Council. I will call this meeting to order and ask you to stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Applause] >> Miss Larson, would you please call roll? >> Calbert here. Romeley >> here. Kley here. Foster Bolton, >> sorry, here. >> Shaq here. Wilburn >> here. Where's some >> here? Next item is approval of the agenda and it looks like we have an addendum. Mr. Funk. >> Yeah. Thank you, mayor. Good evening, council. One agenda item for your consideration. Looking to add an agenda item. So, this would be 15B for an economic development advisory commission appointment. And so, we're looking to add an appointment. Uh, Mayor Wearsome and or I could speak to that later on 15B. Uh and so with that agenda, the recommended action is to move to approve the ad move to approve the agenda with the addition of 15B which would be for the economic development advisory commission appointment. >> Thank you, Mr. Funk. Council member Romey. >> So moved. >> Council member Calbertt. >> Second. >> All right. A motion by Council Member Romey and a second by Council Member Calbertt. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbertt, >> yes. Rome, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilburn, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Next item is approval of minutes. And we have three sets. Um, the first is the July 21, 2025 study session minutes. The second is the August 18, 2025 study session minutes. And the third is the September 8th, 2025 regular meeting minutes. I think we can do those all at once. Um, um, Council Member Calbert. >> Thank you, Mayor. I move approval of the July 21st, 2025 study session minutes, the August 18th, 2025 study session minutes, and the September 8th regular meeting minutes. >> Is there a second? Council member Romey. >> Second. >> All right. A motion by Council Member Calbertt and a second by Council Member Romey. Excuse me. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbert, >> yes. Rome, >> yes. Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. Wilburn, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Next item is special matters, and we have none of those tonight, which takes us to reports from city manager and council members. Uh, Mr. Funk, you get to go first. Again, thank you, mayor. Good evening, council. Just a few things for you here this evening. Uh, first it is time for our submitts or I guess I'm throwing out um submitts for our 2025 Minnotonka photo contest. Uh, so we do that every year. Uh, we'd love to see the photos that best represent the city. We are putting that out on our social media channels and we are taking submissions through October 8th and we'll announce those winners in November. Uh just as a reminder, winning photos will be featured on the city's website, our social media accounts, the Minnetonka me um memo, and then we will uh recognize our first place winners at an upcoming council meeting. And we do use some of those photos around city hall. Some of our conference rooms have some of those really unique photos that are captured throughout the year. So again, encourage anyone to submit their photos. And then uh pivoting to the recent storms, uh as you know, we had some hail damage rip through parts of our community. Uh we've received a number of phone calls at city hall just regarding solicitors. Uh just as a reminder to residents uh that if you that we do track those here at city hall. So anyone that might be out looking for roofing business, they do need to get a solicitor's license here at the city. We do issue those ID cards. Uh so they're clearly identifiable. Uh I think Miss Wishnack, I think last count was probably over 50 different um vendors that have come forward looking to do solicitation in the city. Um, and so those are listed on our website. So anyone that has a question or any resident has a question on who our solicitors are, go to our website. Those are that list is updated and so anyone can check out who is valid and and who is not. And if there's concerns, always call the city and we will make sure we respond to any questions that that folks have. Uh, tomorrow night u it's it's hard to believe that is end of the summer season, but it is our last day of the farmers market. So, Tuesday, September 30th, uh from 2 to 6 is our last day. So, encourage anyone to come out and visit our last farmers market of the year. Uh this winter, we'll certainly do our winter's farmer market, but at least with the summer farmers market that's uh ending here tomorrow. Um and then, uh just a note here from our senior services, uh really cool event that they have coming up. Uh this really kind of in ways relates back to our community survey. If you look at our community survey and our demographics, a third of Minnitankka residents plan to live in our city for over 30 years. And so we know it's a place that people call home. It's a place that people want to stay uh throughout their life. And so our senior services and our senior advisory board have a fair opportunity coming up called the senior housing fair. That's going to be tomorrow as well, Tuesday, September 30th from 10 to noon here at the Minnitanka Community Center. It's a free event. Uh no registration is required and we encourage anyone to come and check out more of what senior services has to offer. Um we've mentioned last uh council meeting that it is uh voting time. So absentee voting is taking place uh for our Minnitonka elections and schoolboard elections. The absentee is in person. So that's here at the Minnitanka Community Center uh during our regular business hours from now until November 3rd. And then any absentee also can be done by mail. And folks can go to our website to do that as well. And then last, another exciting event coming up is the fire department and annual city house event. That's always a great event. We pull in usually a few thousand people based on the hot dogs that are eaten. Uh so that is Tuesday, October 7th from 5 to 7:30 here at City Hall campus and we really kind of promote at the fire station, but we have activities throughout our entire campus. Again, we'll have our firet truck rides, our hot dogs, inflatables, lots of things to drink in terms of cocoa and and others. um and lots of stuff for the kids. It's really meant to be family friendly. So, we encourage any of our families uh to come out and visit us for that event. With that, Mayor, I'll turn back over to you. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Funk. Certainly a lot of things going on. Council members, do you have anything that you would like to report? Council member Calbertt. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just want to report that um some of us went to the Minnotonka Hopkins chili cookoff and I actually do not know the results of who won the cookoff. >> Yes, >> Minnetonka police. All right. So, um and it was for a wonderful cause. It was a beautiful day. They had music. They had six different kinds of chili. And I really, this is something that happens every year this time of year. Um, it was at Faith Church parking lot and I highly encourage people to go because it supports ICA food shelf. So, uh, I just want to thank everybody that put it together and con and congratulate the police department. Um, I'm so glad it was Minnotonka Police Department and um and it was a wonderful time. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Council Member Calvert. Is there anyone else? Council member Calbertt. >> Sorry, I have one more thing to say. >> Okay. >> So, so that's the happy stuff. There have been some really really um just gut-wrenching events in our country once again. And it seems like it is almost a daily occurrence. And um you know it seems to me that some of the people that are two two of the last crimes um one in Michigan and uh I think one was in North Carolina um were perpetrated by veterans who are clearly mentally ill. And I just want to encourage people that are feeling lonely and desperate that there are resources out there to help you. Um, your community wants to be there to help you. And I really think that we have to find um a way to help people resolve their issues through something other than horrific violence. So, I just am sending um my very best thoughts to all of the affected people and I really hope that our country can find a way uh forward um in peace. >> Great. Uh Council Kley, >> thank you, Mayor. Um so last week I went to um Mary Martiotti um Hinnipe County um county attorney um listening session on nonpublic safety traffic stops. Um this was held um on the 24th um in Minneapolis and I went to that listening session. She was partnering with um Valerie Castile um and that is um what was I think it's Philandro Philandro um m p mother who was um Philandro was murdered in St. Paul by um St. Paul police I don't know how many >> actually actually St. Anthony Village >> okay St. Anthony Village. Okay. Um I don't know how many years ago that was, but it was some years ago, but anyway, his mom was there and she talked about why it was so important for um these stops to be um not prosecuted. And I learned a little bit more about um why uh Mary um stated that she didn't go um partner with I guess police across um other cities. Um she talked to the the community about why that didn't happen. And so I would just say for me, I think it's important that um we continue to partner um with the Henipin County Attorney's Office and have these conversations and um share more of the information um more publicly that these conversations are happening. From what I heard and seen, I can't really say cuz I haven't heard our our side of the story from the our city perspective. Just I saw two um public news release but press conferences but not really knowing all the details of verifying it with city staff. So, I can't really say um what conversations was had or haven't had. But from what she stated that she did try to reach out and have conversations in the past. Then at some point the conversations ended and so um there was a lot of community questions around it. But when Valerie Castile stated why it was important to her. Um it really reminded me of a situation that I experienced in Minnotonka u with my daughter. Um she was stopped so many times it's unbelievable. And we did have the conversation u with one of um our folks who was serving on a DEI um with the chief chief barbone. And we so we had the conversation and my daughter as an adult older adult was able to express how she felt living in Minnetonka and all the stops that she had. And I remember specifically on this day on my wedding night, my daughter was pulled over and she was arrested and she was arrested and went to jail that night on my wedding day. And so I'll never forget that as that's going to forever stand in my mind because that happened to her and she did get a chance to talk about it later. And um I think that we really should take this into consideration. um because I know a lot of folks do get pulled over and it's usually black and brown folks who are targeted for some of these stops and um you know it's it's not it's not a madeup thing. this is really happening and has happened. And so um I just would encourage us to continue the conversation um with Mary and her staff and um you know I know that our city is doing a really good job and we've put a lot of things in place over the years. But I would just encourage us to continue to partner and work together as the same conversation I basically had with Mary. I asked her, "Why didn't you um communicate with our chief or communicate with other um chiefs across the different 38 cities that um wasn't involved and she had her reason." So, I would just say I encourage everyone to continue to have the conversation and partner. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Council Member Klay. Um other comments? All right. I've I've got a couple. Um, and I I I want to correct my correction. Um, actually u with the um with the situation the the tragic death of Philando Castile um that was the St. Anthony Village Police Department, but it happened in Falcon Heights as I is um I believe that is correct. So it was um uh that that PD where that occurred. So um you know on a related note um as I've mentioned before I attended the press conference um regarding um guns and uh that Mayor Fry and um Mayor Carter held and I I participated in that because I think gun violence is an issue that um deserves our attention and we um I just wanted to mention that um Representative Resative Achim and Senator Anne Johnson Stewart are going to have a town hall here at um at city at the community center on October 16th and they've asked me to moderate that. So I will be involved um and I think it's I think it's an important conversation. Um, you know, as is the case in such a divided age, things that just seem to be pretty straightforward are never straightforward and have gotten really politicized. But I think um I think there are actions that need to be taken to help um at least take a step toward mitigating the tragedy of gun violence that exists in our society. And as council member Calbertt indicated, um we keep getting reminded of that every day in all different places in houses of worship, in schools, um and um so many places and in stores. Uh we just can't imagine it. And um we've got to break this cycle of violence. And I don't think there's one thing that can solve it. I think it's many, many things. And everyone who says it's not this, it's that. Well, it is that, but you can't say it's not this because it's all of the above. And so, we as leaders do have a role to play and um so I'm happy to be involved in that event. Um, you know, I I just want to comment on the Chile cookoff. It was a beautiful day and it was great participation. It was great to have residents there and it was great to um have um our police department, our fire department, our um shared Hopkins Minnotonka Recreation Department, um Hopkins Schools Food Service and um yeah, and police and fire from all our cities. So, it was um am I miss who am I missing? Um anyway, it was a great event and uh um it it gets bigger every year and I think it's a very successful fundraiser for um a so I was pleased to be there. Um and then um I um on Thursday of last week, I attended the swearing in of our two newest police officers. And uh they are Officer Taylor Havdi and um Officer Shannon King. and uh we welcome them to our police department. Um when I attend those and uh I realize that this is the last one I will be able to attend as mayor. Um I will fess up. I got a little choked up um because it's been a real privilege to welcome our new officers to our police department and and uh the the chief and uh uh the city manager gracious enough gracious enough to let the mayor say a few words and uh um but it was kind of emotional because I realized I'm not going to be doing this next year. So anyway, that was that. And then one other thing, um I had a meeting this week with um Rabbi Morai Grossbomb and a resident Brian Badson um about the opening of the Habad Center um in Minnotonka. And they um there was kind of a formal process there because they explained to me that according to Jewish law and this is an Orthodox Jewish congregation that um the membership is not allowed to carry anything from outside that facility on the Sabbath. And so what they did and they had a proclamation that they asked me to sign. They wanted to establish um an arroo so that that basically creates in the in a much larger area so that according to Jewish law they are able to carry things within the roof to worship on the Sabbath. And correct me if I'm getting that wrong but um so we had a meeting um we they handed me a proclamation that I read and I signed. that was a mayoral proclamation um and establish and so we did that. I wanted to make sure I mentioned it tonight. And then they also according to Jewish law needed to have a financial transaction. Uh so they gave me uh $1, um for that purpose and I have of course uh turned that um over to the city coffers to the finance director. So um we I think we came out on that one. All right. So, I wanted to make sure that I mentioned it publicly because I think that was something that they requested of me to do and and that uh center is um you know an important part of the lives of um a lot of Minnitankka residents. So, I just wanted to make sure that I uh stated that publicly. And with that um those are my comments for tonight at least on that item. So the next item is citizens wishing to discuss matters not on the agenda. And this is an open mic opportunity for anyone who has something that is not on our agenda that would like and they would like to make um resident or um us aware the council aware of their concern. And if you have something, please come forward, state your name and address, tell us what you want us to hear, and uh we will not take any action tonight, but we will ask staff to follow up and then we will get a report on what happened on your item. So, is there anyone who would like to come forward? Anyone? All right, seeing no one, we'll move on. Um, next item is bids and purchases and we have one item tonight that is bids for the 2025 sanitary sewer lining project. Mr. Manchester. Thanks, Mayor and Council. Good evening. For you tonight are the bids for the 2025 sanitary sewer lining project. Um, the motion tonight um recommended by staff is to reject the bids for this project. Uh, project number 25908. Uh it's related to our strategic plan uh through desired outcome 5.1 uh to improve the reliability and efficiency of the utilities and facilities. Uh for some background on July 28th, 2025, council adopted a resolution that authorized us to order the improvements, accept the plans and specs, and then authorize the ad for bids. Um, city staff annually conducts uh sewer televising as well as uh monitoring and metering just to look at the INI throughout the city's system. And this project generally um on an annual basis will propose to eliminate some of that INI which gets into our system and cost the city more money to treat um during heavy rain events. The area uh for the project was north of 394 to the west of Hopkins Crossroad. Uh it did propose to utilize trenches repair technology. So it's a cured in place product uh that is sent through manholes essentially. Uh this project proposed about 8,400 ft of existing 8 in and 10 in to line. So we essentially put a liner in the pipe and structurally make it new again. Um it had a number of segments such as Sunnyvale, Glendale, Park Lane, Overland, Lori Lane, Overland Park. um along with another uh several segments through existing sewer ements. Uh most of the work is done through manholes and then there are some small uh excavations that are required for the work. Uh bids were opened on August 28th, 2025. We did only receive one bid which is primarily the reason for staff's recommendation to reject bids. Um we like to make sure we have comparables in situations like this. Um so we are recommending um council reject the bids and we would come back in 2026 look at the scope of the project um kind of the market and look how we can improve uh the environment by essentially looking at next year's work too as well to see if they should be combined into one project. So it would be brought back to council for consideration in 2026 again if you do choose to move forward tonight with the rejected bids. So, the recommended action is to reject um motion to reject the bids for the 2025 sewer lining project number 25908. And with that, I'll turn it back to the mayor and council for any questions. Thanks. >> Thank you, Mr. Manchester. Council questions for Mr. Manchester. Council Calbertt. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um just one quick one. Uh, do we do we sort of know why only one bid and and uh just following up? I mean, looking forward, is there a better time of year to bid it out? >> Mr. Manchester, >> good question. Council member Calbert, mayor and councel. Um, we did call around to see, you know, we'll usually make phone calls just to see why folks didn't bid. What we heard was there's a lot of work out there and their schedules were full. sort of meet the schedule. Uh fall is a tougher time sometimes to bid because winter is coming. This work could be done in the winter. Just depends on the crews and so spring is an ideal time to rebid is what we heard and more folks would be interested. >> Thank you. Any any other questions or comments or a motion? Council member Wilburn. I move that we reject the bids for the 2025 sanitary sewer lining project number 25908. >> Council member Calvert. >> Second. >> All right. We've got a motion by council member Wilburn and a second by council member Calbert. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbert. >> Yes. >> Romey, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shack, >> yes. >> Wilburn, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Next item is the consent agenda and we have um four items on the consent agenda. These are items that are typically routine. I will read them into the record and we can vote on them in one motion and one action. Um if anyone would like to pull an item either in the audience or on the council just indicate that and we will pull that and consider it separately um voting on the items that have not been pulled first and then um come back to the item or items that have been pulled. So item 10A is um a mo is to amend an interim use permit for a port portable classroom at Glen Lake Elementary School at 4801 Woodridge Road. Item 10B is a transfer of existing CDBG program income to Henipin County. Item 10 C is the 2026 Minnetonka City Council calendar, which I know is always a lot of work to get that pulled together. Um, and then item 10D is a resolution appointing election judges and absentee ballot board for the November 4, 2025 municipal general election. So, would anyone like to pull anything or is there a motion? Council member Calbert. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, I I do move approval, but I just want to make one comment and I want to thank our uh city clerk staff and all of the election uh judges and the absentee ballot board for stepping up and getting this done. It's literally it's our democracy in action and it makes me really proud to see that long list of election judges. So, I'd like to move approval of consent agenda items 10 A, B, C, and D. >> And is there a second? Council member Kley. >> Um, thank you, Mayor. I would like to pull one. So, consent item B. >> Item B. Okay. >> Yes. And I can make the motion to approve consent item A, C, and D. >> Okay. All right. Well, we Well, we've got a motion. So, if you can you can >> I can second. >> All right. Thank you. So, and then and then uh Council Calbert, if we'll we'll withdraw your motion on 10B until we hear from >> Yes. >> Council um Council Kley. So, with that, we have a motion um from Council Member Calbertt on items 10 A, C, and D. And a second by Council Member Kley on items 10 A, C, and D. Um Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbertt, >> yes. Romey, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. Wilurn, >> yes. Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. And then Council Member Kley, you pulled item 10B. So, what are your comments? >> So, I have a quick comment. I talked to U. Mike about this earlier today. Um, I have a My comment is that um you know, the CDB CDBG program is a good program. However, there's some I feel like there's some problems with it for people who have low income. Um, and in particular, particularly the people that's in the land trust housing. Um, and I would like to u maybe for the future, I know we can't do it now, but maybe in the future um add a conversation around uh in the study session around how do we assist people who um have low income to get approved for this CD CDBG um um program because um you know sometimes they deny folks if they don't meet all the requirements. And so I would like to add that maybe to a study session in the future to discuss how do we support people who have lower income especially the land trust folks. >> Okay. >> So >> so then with that that's duly noted. Um I don't know if anyone staff has any comments otherwise um Miss Wishnack could do you if you're prepared or would like to say something. Thank you, mayor, and uh council members. I think we talked about this at the last study session, I believe, in September or September 8th, it might have been. Um, and we talked about visiting again about a program like that. Um, at a point which we're ready to present that, we will come back to the council and ask that you review some information. So, >> all right. So, if I can conclude from your comments that we are doing what council member Klay already asked. So, we're we're a step ahead. >> We're a step ahead. Okay, that's good. >> Well, good. Well, thank you for that. And Council Kley, would if you'd like to make the motion on item 10B, that would be great. >> I'll make the motion to approve consent item B. >> Very good. And Council Calbertt, >> I second. >> All right, we've got a motion by Council Member Kley on item 10B and a second by Council Member Calbertt. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbertt, >> yes. >> Rome, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. Shaq, >> yes. Wilbur, yes. Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Um, item 11 is consent agenda items requiring five votes, and we have two of those tonight, and they're both grant they're both public safety grant items. Uh, the first is um item 10 or 11 A, excuse me, is the DWI traffic safety officer grant agreement. And item 10B is um the towards zero deaths TZD traffic enforcement grant agreement. So, Council Member Shaq. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'll make the motion to approve consent agenda items 10A or excuse me 11A and 11B, but also make a comment that I think these items are a great example of how we work diligently to find resources through um, state and federal. This happened these happen to be state grants and help make our community safer. a lot of conversation over the past few years about um public safety and the pressures on what the our public safety, our police and fire departments and these kinds of things really help um us move forward in a more costefficient way. So, I'm very grateful for that. >> Thank you, Council Member Shaq. Is there a second? Uh Council Member Romey, >> I'll second. >> And are there any other comments? just uh just what uh council member Shaq said. >> All right. And then and I just wanted to add too um kind of for the public that the the DWI traffic safety officer grant agreement essentially funds an entire patrol officer for our police department. So, I think that's why Captain Mian is here because she is in charge of patrol and um and the the fact that we can have um a full a full-time officer fully covered by this grant is significant. We've gotten it for a number of years. So, anyway, so we've got a motion by Council Shack and a second by Council Calbert. Did I get that right? >> Or Rome, excuse me. I'm sorry. Okay. That's what happens when I say too much and I forget what I did, but I apologize. So, council member, thank you. And um Miss Larson, would you please call roll? >> Calbert, >> yes. >> Romeley, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilbur, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Um item 12 is introduction of ordinances and we have two of those tonight. Um the first um 10, excuse me. Um item 12A is an ordinance reszoning the property at 14915 Margaret Place from I1 Industrial 1 to R1 residential one. So um Miss Thomas, I believe you have that report. >> Yes. Thank you, mayor, uh and council members. This property uh under consideration is located at the end of Margaret Place Culdeac just south of Minnitonka Boulevard and west of Williston Road. Um, it's one of eight homes that access Margaret Place. Again, this evening, we're asking the council to introduce the ordinance and refer that reasonzoning to the planning commission as well as um approve or modify the notification area for this project. City records indicate uh that the house on the property that still exists today was constructed in the mid 1950s and that appears on the aerial photograph on the left hand side of your screen. That lot then was included as a part of the larger industrial park um plat in the early 1990s or excuse me 1980s. And at that time, for reasons planning staff isn't fully um aware of or or can't find, that property was reszoned to industrial as part of that overall industrial um plat. The property's uh comprehensive guide plan designation was not however changed. And so we have a situation where we have a existing single family home that's been in place since the 1950s and used as a residence that is zoned I1 industrial but guided lowdensity um residential. So the property owner has requested the city reszone the property um back to residential and that reszoning really would remove the non-conforming status of that existing home. It would reflect all of the uses that uh access Sparret Place. There are no other industrial uses that come off of that small culde-sac. It would allow the property to be used as a licensed residential care facility serving six or fewer residents, which is the goal of the owner as I understand it. It would also prevent the industrial use of this site at the end of the culde-sac. And really most importantly from staff's perspective, it would ensure that the comprehensive guide plan and the zoning ordinance uh classification are consistent which is required uh under state law. So again this evening um we're requesting you introduce the ordinance and refer it to the planning commission as well as approve that notification area that's been included in your packet. And I would turn it back to the mayor and council for questions. >> Thank you, Miss Thomas. and uh council. Any questions on this item? Kind of a unique one. Uh council member Calbertt. >> Thank you, Mayor. I know that there have been conversations in various communities and at the league about uh group home clustering and I did talk to Mr. Funk earlier today to see sort of, you know, what other group homes do we have, you know, how many and sort of how far away. Miss Thomas. >> Uh Mr. Mayor and uh Council Member Calvert, um staff did look uh online today. As you know, group homes that serve six or fewer residents, um the city has no review over those. And so the only way we know where they're located really is to go online um to the Department of Health, Department of Human Resources, run a search, see where we have things. So um we did that. There are two uh existing um facilities uh on Willist Road actually off of Lake Street Extension and Williston Road intersection and then one also um at the near the intersection of Highway 7 and Williston Road. So I would say in total as of this snapshot in time there's about three between um uh Williston Road and on Willist Road between Minnetonka Boulevard and Highway 7. And Miss Wishnack corrected me. I think I said human resources. I said that's health and human services. >> Thank you. Are there any other questions? Um comment. >> Well, we're let's see if we don't have any questions, we're going to go to comments. So, uh any other questions? Okay, then. Um um Council Member Foster Bolton. >> Yeah. I mean, my concern is is even though it may not be clustering, but it it feels to me like we've had issues with single family um homes being turned into a facility for um residential care facility with six or less people. And it's never I mean um at least in my word and you've gotten letters too where it's and we have no control over it. So once once that happens um then then it's lost to us but but in the meantime I mean in the future then people in that are living in these homes get neglected the houses get neglected I mean that that's the thing I keep hearing about in um as res residential care facilities and this is the point where it feels like to me we have some control. I mean because and I I mean I get it doesn't make sense to to keep it in to to keep it as I won but I you know I just need to this is a concern that I had right away when I saw it. Um that and you know I I wish I wish I had more control over you know this is the part where we do and you know I just don't want to see that happen again. Other other comments anyone? Uh, Council Member Wilburn. >> Um, so in in talking to Mr. Fon Keat said we should share anything that we want the planning commission to look at. Um, and so currently we have multiple residential uh, zoning areas. And so I'm wanting to know, are there some other, you know, R1, R2, R3, R4, um, mixed use? Are are there other designations that would make sense for this area um that would allow the the house to be conforming? Miss um Miss Thomas, I don't know if you have a response for that question. >> Um, Mayor Whome and council members, certainly something staff can take a look at. There are um other zoning classifications that that would allow for residential care facilities um that would also allow for single family homes. Um we would have to, you know, have some conversation. My concern would be adding a a zoning classification to this neighborhood that doesn't already exist and whether or not that would be considered spot zoning, which is a um something we want to avoid, but certainly something that staff and the planning commission had can explore at the planning commission meeting. >> Council member Calbertt, >> so that that just made me think. So, uh thank you, Council Member. um Wilburn for bringing up that we we need to give a little bit of uh direction for probing on the planning commission. And um the other things that that I think about are um uh [Applause] the you know I think they need to talk about the clustering but also because there are several along that street and we're talking about the notification area. Um I do want to make sure that we get some feedback from the neighbors because it, you know, I I have found in my door knockocking, you know, for instance, along Baker Road, we have several and we have several right in a row. And there are some real issues happening there. and one of the one of my neighbors cuz I happen to live on Baker Road um you know shared with me sort of how people walk in her backyard um smoke cigarettes in her front yard and she said you know if I called the cops every time it happened it would be you know all the time and she doesn't want to call the police and you know they're supposed to be chaperoned they're not chaperoned and uh so Just the kinds of things that I'm looking for is making sure that neighbors have a chance to uh provide some feedback, get some answers to their questions and concerns, and also um probe a little bit, you know, sort of if if this is going to be uh group residential facility, sort of what the plans are to um mitigate and minimize some of the concerns that are happening um on other properties around the city. Um, and I'm starting to think that it may be something that, you know, we might want to discuss in a in a study session sometime about sort of what's sort of what's happening, you know, how are we keeping the data on, you know, police calls, other responses to um, residential care facilities, sort of what the reports are about, and just do some information gathering so that when we talk about what's happening, we're talking factually and in a data based way because these are very important. There are people that, you know, I have people in my family that uh need uh possibly a group um facility and um they serve a wonderful purpose if they're well-run. So, those are the kinds of things I'd love for the planning commission to explore. >> Councilor Shaq. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I I think we have to be really careful in this conversation because if this property were my property that was zoned incorrectly or any of ours and I I have to think about it that way. It is a residential property that's zoned incorrectly. and the next step of what these owners want to do with it is immaterial to the conversation about whether we're going to fix the zoning. Now, that being said, I agree with everything that was said regarding issues that we're experiencing in the community regarding group homes. And so from from my perspective, what we really need to do is have that conversation separate from this conversation. Um, and not get ourselves into a legal pickle. Um, and so I think this is for Mike's notebook a 2026 study session topic. And in fact, you know, um, even prior to that, something we may want to address in our legislative breakfast, but I'm not sure we want to send the neighborhood or the planning commission down this rabbit hole regarding this one particular property because it's really not the problem of that's not the problem we're trying to solve. So, um, I I totally hear everybody what they're saying, but I think we have to be really careful about how we approach this. >> Thank you, Council Member Shaq. Council member Mey. >> Yeah, thank you. Um, question before that the other comments have have raised for me. Um, can I just confirm with staff regardless of clustering or or not, we the city does not have the legal authority or do they to regulate the placement of group homes? Okay. So, >> six or fewer. >> Six with six or fewer. Okay. Which is what this would be. So really I have to agree with uh council member Shaq on this is that we can't that this is a a state law issue and this has to be addressed at the state level and if we were to get you know kind of neighbors or anything involved what we would have to tell them is that if we have a problem with this we need to take this up at the state level because there's really not much we can do at you know the municipal level in terms of our ordinances or anything else at this point. So, um you know, regardless of how many within whatever um you know, geographical area, we need to uh look at this as a larger state legislative issue. >> Thank you. >> Is there anyone else? uh you know I as I looked at this uh the question I have for staff is that um I mean this really is a land use question and is the is the future use of this single family home even relevant to what we're considering tonight. So that is I asked that to staff because it's really land use we're discussing. Correct. >> Correct. >> All right. So, so that was an added piece of information, but it's not really relevant to this considering the future use is a perhaps a separate conversation. But given state law and the fact that um any home can be converted to a group home for six or fewer residents with absolutely no input from the city. I mean, we have been preempted on that. Um and um and and it's state law and that's the way it is. And so um the group home use of this is is not an issue for us. Um the so then as I look at this from a land use perspective um this probably should have happened a long time ago. Um this is an oversight. In fact, we are we are outside state law um and not we're not conforming to state law. We should have probably fixed that a long time ago had we been aware of it. So to me that's the real issue. This is a land use question. We should have the the planning commission focus on that aspect of it and then any future use um should be um considered. Now, if this were proposed for um a group home for eight residents, then that would require a conditional use permit and that would be a different conversation. But then I would add that given its adjacency to an industrial district um and the fact that it's non-conforming and therefore would be require a conditional use permit to me this looks like a very logical place for you know somebody who if they were choosing to do that but that's that's not what we're being asked tonight but from a location perspective I think it's almost ideal for a group home but but again that's a separate issue focus on Let's um ask the planning commission to focus on the land use and make the right decision and get us in compliance with state law would be my perspective. So um >> mayor, if I may, >> Miss Miss Wishnack, >> um just on the in the group home, I think the point is well taken. It's really um just it was a transparency thing on our part to understand what was going to happen with the property and to share that with you. So it was just for information only. However, I I do want to respond to FE folks that have concerns about it, and this is more a public service announcement. If you have some issue, whether it be long grass or maybe there's a nuisance issue or maybe there's just a a concern about management of a group home, we're happy to visit and talk through any of those issues with a neighborhood. Um, sometimes we can do things, sometimes we can't. Sometimes we just have a meeting and we visit about what the concerns are. So, we're happy to do that. You don't have to call the police every time something happens, you know, but we certainly can talk through some of that. So, I I just want to put that out there, Mayor, that that is available. M >> Miss Wishnack, um I appreciate that. And and I I'd like to take it a little bit uh just a step further too to remind people that when there are issues, please report them whether it is to the police department or whether it is to our community um um development staff because the reality of it is a problem that is not reported is not a problem. And one of the things that happens when we consider issues um about you know or if we were to ever contact the state about licensing or anything like that they ask for the data and if you don't report there is no data and they say well you know there may be a real problem here but you know what nobody's complained about anything. Um, so as far as we know, it's fully in compliance, and that does a real disservice to the residents of these facilities who may be being abused, um, but with no reporting, the abuse doesn't exist. And so, it's really incumbent if there's an issue and it bugs you enough to talk to your neighbors about it, um, be sure to call the city and inform us about them. So then that can be recorded and hopefully corrected. So I think that's important, but pardon my preaching. Um, any other comments on this? Otherwise, a motion. Council member Wilburn. I move that we introduce the ordinance reszoning the property at 14915 Margaret Place from I1 to R1 and refer it to the planning commission um with and include the approval or modification of the notification area >> and are there any comments on the notification area from council or are we good with what's recommended? >> All right, that's the motion. Is there a second? >> Council member, >> I'll second. All right, we've got a motion by council member Wilburn and a second by council member Romey. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbert, >> yes. >> Rome, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilburn, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. Item 12B is an ordinance establishing mayor and council salaries. And uh, Miss Diamond, I believe that's your report. >> Thank you, mayor. Good evening, mayor and counsel. I'll be taking the report on the ordinance establishing mayor council salaries the next one. So staff recommendation tonight is to introduce the ordinance which is requires four votes. The financial consideration consideration the salary adjustments will take effect in January 1st 2026 and has already been incorporated into the proposed 2026 budget. So some background here. So, state law and the city charter require that the salaries of the mayor and council members be established by ordinance. The ordinance may not take effect until after a municipal election that follows the adoption of the ordinance. The mayor and council salaries were last adjusted in the spring of 2023. They were effective January 1st, 2024 with the previous adjustment occurring in 25. Again, effective date would have been January 1st, 2026. The ordinance that was adopted in 2023 had a change in it that required a bianial salary report in quarter 4 of every evenednumbered year. And from council, that was to hopefully avoid these um 10-year gaps. So, um, by that ordinance requirement, um, last November, um, on November 4th, 2024, during a study session, staff presented that salary comparison of our 10 metro area cities to council. Um based on that conversation um council consensus was any um was any salary increase commiserates with non-UN employees due to the adjustment limits of when we can approve council mayor salaries. Um council would receive two years of increases at once. So it'd be a 3% cost of living for 2024, a 3% cost of living for 2025, and then up to 2% each year with market adjustments. and those were the non-union employees um for the last two years. Proposed ordinance again would be voted on um by November but by before the election and then effective would take January 1st, 2026. So the mayor um with those in place um the mayor salary would um increase to $25,850 annually. The current is 23,500. council members would increase to 19,800 annually, currently at 18,000. Next, please. And then again, staff recommendation um would be the motion to introduce the ordinance. Again, four votes are needed for that. Um the final ordinance adoption to be considered on October 20th, 2025. And with that, mayor and council, I turn it back to you for questions. Um >> thank you, Miss Dman. Um councel, questions for staff. Council member, >> thank you, mayor. Uh, just a quick question since I didn't I should have asked this previously, but I didn't. Do we have where um from that study session where we're falling in terms of, you know, our place within the rankings. Um, and if you don't have that, I apologize, but I So, when we did that in November 4th, 2024, we didn't have all of the updated data for 2025. Mhm. >> From what I remember, a lot of cities were jumping and increasing. >> Many cities have evenear elections, right? And so when they can do it is different from when um municipal and the odd year elections can do it. I don't remember the exact details, but I can surely update that chart um and have it ready for October 20th. >> Okay, that'd be great. Thank you. >> Um any other questions, Council Member Shaq? Otherwise, um you know, I I think um seeing no questions, then let let's move to uh comments because I think there probably are a few. Councilor Shack. Thank you, Mayor. Um having, you know, the history of this and how we kind of came to develop the policy because it had been pretty problematic that councils before us hadn't kind of taken on the task of figuring out how to get incremental pay increases. Um, I think it it's well intended and I think the cost of living piece of it is really important because you end up in a situation where you're lagging behind pretty significantly. I'm not so sure that the market increase piece, although we tied it to the employee indexing, um, is necessary or really applies the same way to council as it does to employees. That's that's a different consideration. So I guess from my perspective, I think we have an obligation to future councils to continue with the cost of living piece. You know, I looked at the CPI today. I do a lot of cost of living adjustments for my work. And you know, it's it would fall for that 2-year period if we did it mathematically somewhere between 5 and 6% of a cost of living increase based on the Minneapolis area CPI. I my suggestion would be is when when this comes back is to to to move it forward with cost of living increases only and however that's calculated I would defer to staff on that recommendation. That's my two cents. Um and I'll leave it at that. >> Council member Kley. >> Um I will I would like to make a comment. I know um I probably was the one who addressed this um with having probably at the time the lowest income and I I like the idea of what is suggested because this is why I think it's important although my situation have changed I think about people who want to run for city council um I really think about low-income um folks who would like to serve in this position but sometimes don't because it does not it's not conducive for their family and it's it's not a lot of income to be working in this um you know serving as a council member and so um that was one of the main reasons I suggested I know I don't think the council hadn't had a a a cost of living or a um increase in pay for a long time. And I applaud folks that are able to do that. But I know the whole time that I've been on this council being low income and um trying to stick with this position, I could not afford it. And so, um, I'm not just thinking about myself, but I'm also thinking about people that may come behind after, you know, some of us are gone. Maybe there's other people in our city who want to um serve on the council, but would need that extra income to make sure that they can serve because, you know, you give up a lot when you are serving as a council member. And I know that I had to give up a lot to serve in this city. Um probably didn't have a job for the last couple years. Um and you know, furthermore, um it really helped me at a time that I really needed it. And so I would just encourage us to keep it the same as um our city staff suggested. I know everybody may not need it, but some people really do need it for running for these type of positions. So that's my my comment. >> Are there other comments? Councilor Wilburn. >> There we go. Trying not to be too repetitive. Um so I just wanted to make people aware that people in the audience and people who may be watching. um the the history like how we got here is that um as as alluded to there hadn't been an increase in I want to say since 2012 I'm not 100% sure on that but like it had been a long time since there had been a salary increase. Um, and the reason that we decided to do a salary increase was for the reasons uh, council member Kley mentioned that uh, it was cost prohibitive for some people to even consider running for um, running for an office if say if you're a single parent like you wouldn't even be able to cover the cost of child care with the salary. Um, so that's how we that's why we raised our raised our salary and why we put this uh into into statute that we would review every two years and have a have a cost of living increase. Um, that being said, I can I can um also see where Council Member Shaq is coming from and saying that maybe we don't need the the full recommended. It's especially it it seems like a lot when you put the 5% when you make it 10% at once. That that just does seem like kind of a lot. Um, we have now moved back. I I think we were kind of we were trending towards the bottom of the pack and we've moved back up into the middle as far as comparison to surrounding cities. It's still no one's getting rich doing this. Um, if this is your if your only source of income, um, but I would I would be supportive of maybe a slightly lower increase for for this time. Thank you, Council Member Wvern. Are there other comments? Council Calbert. >> Yeah, I I fully uh respect everyone's position up here and um and so I I understand what Council Member Kley is saying and I it also made me feel a little uncomfortable, but I do understand, you know, I have a job. I'm able to balance it. Um, I'm not a single mother. Um, but I do it it feels like it feels like a lot. So, um, but I just think it's so important. First of all, I want to thank staff and my fellow council members for tackling it because it was long overdue. Nobody had had the will. None of the previous councils had had the will to tackle it. And it was really necessary because it is very hard to attract talent to run for city council and you really want talented people um to want to do this. And even if even if you're like me and you have a job, um it's a lot more time than most people think. um it really does impinge on your uh life, your social life, your family life. It takes a lot of work and you need to make it worth people's time. And even then, I mean, if we broke down how much time we all spend per hour, um it would be uh what a most people would consider chump change because this sometimes feels like a full-time job even though it is a part-time job. And um so I just want to thank people, but I do it does feel like like a little much this year, especially when we're raising the levy. >> Are there other comments, council members? >> Um I'll comment. What a surprise. Um um although, you know, for the first time in the time I've considered this, I don't have a dog in this hunt. Um I'm I'm not going to be here next year. My my council salary will be zero. Um but um I can provide a little context because um I I don't think um it was a matter of other councils not being willing to um tackle the issue. I really don't think that was it. Um what happened was I mean there was not a formal process in terms of okay we're going to look at it routinely like like we put into place now but the situation was that um you know we went through you know a significant economic downturn um and the council wasn't comfortable with saying well you know our residents are hurting but give us a raise. um that that didn't seem to um pass the smell test and so the can got kicked down the road. Um and then that was CO same story. I mean not a lot of people were out of work. So there were valid and intentional reasons why no action had taken place on on council salaries and and the and the council deferred. Well, then finally, I mean, the the bad news is um when you um I mean, you certainly save taxpayers money when you don't take an increase. Um but you know, no, as has been pointed out, nobody does this for the money. Um um I don't think anybody sends their checks back, but um but um nobody is in this for the money. Um because you can get higher paying jobs. Um so um so then the question is I mean the salaries we're talking about are not high um they're I think they're they're reasonable but I think one benchmark that I would like to keep in mind is and I just throw this out as a compromised position is keep the increase the two-year increase below the increase of the levy. Uh because then it's not then it's not um then it's not inflationary to the levy. So if our levy, our preliminary levy is 7.935%, okay, pick a number at or below that and at least it's not an inflationary number because the other the downside of not keeping pace is sometime you're going to have to catch up. And so you know, okay, inflation's at x% and you're doing, you know, but you have that catchup. So there's going to be some time where you're going to have to take a doubledigit increase to to get caught up. And I think falling behind is is almost as bad. But but I think from a from a um from a benchmark perspective looking at what the levy increase and is and and kind of is maybe a compromised position that um recognizes inflation but also puts you in a position where you're not going to fall too far behind. So those are my comments as somebody who does not have a dog in the hunt. Any any any comments or recommendations, council? Because I like your idea. We have to we have to vote on something. >> I I like your idea, mayor. >> Counor me. >> Um I'm sorry. Are we just introducing or are we >> Yeah, we're just introducing. We're introducing, but you know, that's what's going to get discussed. Yeah. But not deciding tonight. Yes. So any thoughts, council member Shaq? I mean, I think that I think that's a good suggestion and maybe we target 7% with the understanding that also staff will get us maybe a little more data on where our um fellow cities are are now because we we had old data that I think um may not be as reflective of the current situation. We and we're not voting on I we're not approving anything tonight, so we can tweak it if we want to based on that >> information. >> All right. I'm seeing I'm seeing a lot some good head nods here. Should we um if we could get a motion on the introduction? Let's get it introduced with the direction to get the added data and then consider something less than what's proposed here potentially but um you more in keeping you know using the um using the levy increase as a uh as a benchmark and therefore not being inflationary. Is that fair summary? Council member Calbertt. >> Thank you mayor. I will make that motion to introduce the ordinance asking for more data for our coming decision-m meeting and um uh to consider the lobby as a benchmark. >> Is there a second? Council member Foster Bolton. >> I'll second. >> All right. We've got a motion by Council Member Calvert and a second by Council Member Foster Bolton. Um Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbertt. Yes. >> Romey, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilbur, >> yes. >> We >> Yes. Motion carries. Um item 13 is public hearings and we've got two public hearings tonight. Um the first is a temporary on sale license for Boom Island Brewing Company located at 5959 Baker Road 320. And um Miss Wishnack, that's your report. Thank you, mayor and council members. Just a short report here. There is a fall fest planned at the Boom Island Brewery on October 25th. They do have kind of an afternoon more familyfriendly event that they would hold at 400 pm and then uh a little bit more adult uh starting at 6:00 to 10:00 p.m. Uh they have kind of a plan to close off the access into the parking area as they always do when they have events. Um, and then, uh, they would also have music that would end at the appropriate time, which is 10:00 p.m. And, uh, we have not had any complaints in the past about their events. And so, uh, staff would recommend that the, uh, city council hold the hearing and then approve the license. Thank you, mayor. >> Very good. Thank you, Miss Wishnack. Um, council, first, uh, any questions of staff on this item. I think it's pretty straightforward. All right. All right, I'm not seeing any questions. So, um I will open the public hearing and ask anyone who would like to come up and comment and um it looks like someone from Boom Island may be here. So, maybe this is an opportunity to do a little advertising too. So, tell us about your event, please. >> Definitely. Thank you, uh Miss Wishnack and uh mayor and council members. I'm Laura McCully. I'm the co-owner and events manager for Boom Island Brewing. Um, as wish Miss Wishnack said, we have a fall fest going on um from noon until 4 that day on the 25th of October. Um, we'll have a car show, pumpkin painting. Um, just a lot of fun, familyfriendly activities to celebrate the season. And then later on in the evening, we will transition into what we're calling drink or treat. It is an adult version of trunk-or-treating. And we actually have invited five other breweries from the local area to come and join us with their own um tents and sampling setups. It's a beer sampling event um to celebrate the Halloween season. Um that portion of the event is ticketed. However, the rest of the brewery will be open um unticked. So, it's free to attend in general. Sampling is um ticketed and of course ID checks will be happening throughout the day. Um, any questions for anyone here? >> Council, any questions? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Customer melee. >> Are costumes required? >> Not required, but they are encouraged. We will have contests. >> And And then give us the dates. The date again. So, >> yes. Saturday, October 25th. >> 25th. Okay. Very good. >> Very good. Council, any other questions? Thank you very much. I will ask if there's anyone else who wants to comment on that, but I'm not seeing anyone. Thanks for being here tonight. So, I will close the public hearing. Bring it back to the council for action. Council member Burme. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, I'll make the motion to grant the temporary liquor license to Boom Island Brewing Company at 5959 Baker Roads, Sweet 320. >> And a second, Council Member Calbertt. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just want to put put in a plug because people that wear costumes to Boom Island wear really good costumes. I'm just saying they do. So I think I was there for St. Patrick's Day maybe and it was very very cool. >> So anyway, I will second. >> All right, we've got a motion by Council Member Romey and a second by Council Member Calbertt. Um, Miss Larson, please call roll. Calbertt, >> yes. >> Rome, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilburn, >> yes. >> We >> Yes. Motion carries. The next item, uh, 13B is resolutions approving special assessments for the 2024 2025 projects. And Miss Melanie Puts, our assessor, is here to uh um make that report. So, welcome Melanie. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'm here to talk about the resolutions approving the special assessments for the 2024 and 2025 projects. Can you hear me? Okay, >> we can. Does it Can we make that go up a little higher for you? There we go. Thanks. >> Okay. So staff recommends we hold the public hearing and then ultimately make a motion to approve or adopt the resolutions pertaining to the special assessments of one, three, and fiveyear term nuisance abatements. So a quick summary, this is an annual process that we hold the public hearing to approve the collection of these special assessments. Typically um we hear nuisance property nuisance abatements, disease trees, and city court fines. um division staff associated with each type of the assessment notify and work with property owners prior to this timeline for the work being done by the city and finance through the city. Notices to the public were mailed um after the August 25th council meeting and that's where we set this public hearing date and property owners will have 30 days to pay or partially pay their assessments interest fee after today. There's a total of four um nuisance abatements this year totaling just under $6,400. There are two one-year terms, one three-year term and one 5-year term. So, relatively few. And interest rates are set based on the US prime rate of 7.25%. Um, that's reflecting the um decrease earlier this month. And staff have received no appeal notifications from the property owners appearing in the resolutions. So again, we recommend um to hold the public hearing and make a motion to adopt resolutions pertaining to the special assessments of the 1, three, and five-year term nuisance abatements. >> All right. And ju and just for clarification, so we're going to each do each of these separately. Correct. Is that correct? Or or do we do them all? Um Mr. Nelson? >> Uh thank you, Mayor. I I think in this case with uh the fact that there only four, I think you can open the floor up for any individual that would like to address. >> Okay. All right. And very good. So um so well I mean these these are the nuisance ones and then we'll go on and do each one each of those individually. That's what I meant. So I didn't ask my question my my my question wasn't clear. So all right I will open the public hearing to ascertain. Is there anyone here who would like to speak to these um one, three, or fiveyear nuisance abatements? Is there anyone? I don't see anyone. So, I'll close the public hearing and bring it back to the council for comment or a motion. [Applause] Council member Calbertt. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm happy to move approval of uh to adopt the resolutions pertaining to the special assessment of 1, three, and 5-year nuisance abatements. >> Thank you. Is there a second? Council member Romey. >> Thank you, Mayor. I'll second. >> All right. A motion by Council Member Calbertt and a second by Council Member Romey. Um, Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbertt, >> yes. >> Romeley, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. Shaq. >> Yes. >> Wilburn. >> Yes. >> Wearsome. >> Yes. Motion carries. Miss Puts, we are we are we done? >> That's it. Okay. Very good. Thank you. So, next item is um other business and uh um 14A is the Villas at Chasewood HIA call for sale of bonds and is Oops. Um, Miss Wishnack, am I doing that wrong? >> I'm doing the report. >> Okay, very good. I'm Excuse me. >> That's all right. >> All right. Thank you. So, Miss Wishnack, um, take it away. >> Thank you. Uh, this is a followup. If you don't remember, we had a housing improvement area that was approved earlier this year. We let you know we'd be back when the bonds were ready to be issued. And so, that is what we were what we are here to do tonight. Um the motion we'll be asking for after the presentation is to adopt the resolution uh for the amount of $8,80,000 and we do need four votes to pass that. Um as you recall, this is just some of the reasons why we did the HIA originally. The association asked the city to help with their improvement projects. That is not something the city goes out and solicits from people. They ask the city. And so we um knew that there was uh sheathing issues, framing issues. Uh they had explored all kinds of different financing options. And uh so it's been a few years since they contacted us, which was uh at this point 3 years ago. And so you looked at it in January, in February, and March. And then in June, they had the last day of prepayments that homeowners could make uh their prepayments for the pending assessment. This chart is um good news for the association and for those owners. Uh it's came the numbers came in better than what was originally anticipated and really that equates to not using their contingency. They had a pretty heavy contingency budget of 1.5 million. And so you can see the estimated costs in the one column equaled about 12.2 million. The final cost came in at about 10.8 million. Um 49 owners did prepay their assessment and so that brought in about 3.3 million. And um basically again that good news is about people's assessments went down and uh they're in a much better situation than probably we thought in the early months of the year. So they are what happened is they had this construction loan that's what was floating the construction this whole time. the agreement with the city was when that construction loan was ready to be monetized into a bond. That's when um we step in with the bond issuance. So the bond term is 21 years. It has an interest rate of 7% although the actual interest rate won't be known until the actual sale occurs. So that is forthcoming. As an aside, it does not count against our bank qualification limit of $10 million. Um, and then the call for bond issuance again is 8,80,000. Um, and then the city will repay the bonds through its housing improvement fees which are collected similar to a special assessment. And there were some questions in terms of the what if people don't pay uh what if the city doesn't get payments from owners. So the situations that uh the city could face for instance if somebody didn't pay their taxes right or it went into even more serious situation where it goes into tax forfeiture and we talked about this early on too. the the city might have to float that amount while they wait for the taxes to be paid, but the the way the bond's designed is to have that room in in case of non-payment. Eventually, the city gets paid because that property transfers at some point in the future. Taxes are paid and then the the fees are paid. So the risk for non-payment is pretty small and the bond anticipates some amount of issue that that would cause non-payment. So hopefully that helps answer that question. And again, it's pretty simple request. The resolution is for the housing improvement bonds at 8,80,000. Uh staff does recommend approval. Mayor, if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. >> Thank you, Miss Wishnack. Council, any questions on that? Council member Shaq. >> Thank you, Mayor. I meant to ask this to Mike this morning. It's I think it's an easy question. The people who prepaid, how do they get their um overpayment credited to them? Yes, Mayor and Council Member Sheek. Um there is a calculation at the end of the bond issuance. They are repaid the overage that they paid. um with this many prepayments, it's a little tedious, but um that is part of the process. This happened in Cloud9 as well. We had a lot of prepayments there. Uh very similar issue and their numbers came in lower. So, we're used to it. It's just it is a lot of work. Yes. >> Thank you. Are there other questions? Councilor Calbert. >> Thank you, Mayor. I asked Mr. Funk this question earlier. So my question is you know there there are inflationary pressures and some economic uncertainty and you know when we do projects we have contingency. So they opted not to use the the portion of the cost uh associated with the contingency which looks like is about 1.4 million. And um what happens if there's a contingency then? >> Miss Wishnack, >> Mayor and Council Member Calvert. So at this point, we would not have brought the project to you for bond issuance if we didn't know the total costs. So we have to know those total costs. All the bills are in. All of the contractors fees are in. Anything that's outstanding against the project is complete. That doesn't mean construction's totally complete, but the bills are complete. And so that's when we bring it to you. They did not need that contingency. So it's not it's a little bit different than I'm trying to think of uh an opposite situation. Sometimes when you look at road projects, you're seeing a project in advance, right? And you don't you know there's contingency there and then the budget reflects the actual cost spent. Here we see when before, during and after. I mean, so you're seeing it at all levels and this is the end result. >> Got it. Thank you. Very helpful. And mayor, I have one more question. So, I also asked Mr. Funk this earlier. Um, we had gotten contacted by someone, um, a resident there, I assume, talking about how I think someone that that buys now does not have the ability to prepay. And so I just wanted to uh help folks understand once again sort of that there were good reasons that were explained before, but I just thought it might be worth exploring one more time. >> Miss Wishnack, >> mayor and council member Calbertt, uh the reason why prepayments cannot continue is because the city is issuing debt. And again, I know you know all of this, but perhaps people listening might not understand. So once the debt issuance is complete and the payments start to flow, we have to be assured that we can pay off that bond over time. If if people start to prepay at various stages of that bond repayment, we could be short our bond payment in say year 19 or 20 because the prepayment has already happened. So um hopefully that makes sense. Uh it's it's it's not like a mortgage per se. Um because in a mortgage there's an out. Um with the bonding situation there's not. I do have in my head, you know, at some point does it get refinanced? Maybe. Could that open up prepayments? Sure. Um it just depends on what the bonding market is as we move through the next 20 years. So hopefully that helps. Thank you. That helps a lot. >> Thank you. Anything else? anyone, you know, just looking at the chart that's in front of us, um, you know, the total project costs were $1.4 million less. And if you go down the list, you can see that it was construction costs, which is miscellaneous labor, mobilization, rigging, and contingency. I mean, that's where that's where all the savings took place, and that's where mo most of the 1.4 million is. So, that's um that's that's good news in my book. So, they got it done for less than they had themselves covered for. All good. So, um with that, um let's see. Is there I guess we have to >> um let's see. Um yeah, I guess we need a motion. Thank you. Go ahead. >> Just a quick comment and I'll be happy to make the motion as well. Just wanted to re reiterate for those folks who you know may be watching or at some point uh watching that the reason that we we undertook this was because we had uh over a hundred I can't remember how many units there are in that >> 188 thank you um that are naturally occurring affordable housing and you know this was helping uh us to as a city preserve those units So that development did not fail and we did not risk as a city losing those naturally occurring affordable housing um you know kind of owner condo units and uh there's some uh housing uh type that is in very short supply in terms of ownership and uh so I I just want to congratulate the community development staff uh for you know undertaking this and uh helping uh preserve serve and you know my colleagues on council for voting to uh approve this because it's something that's very necessary and I think a very good uh use of our our credit rating and again reminding people that this isn't something that is going to cost the city anything. Uh this is you know essentially a loan that will be repaid over time. So, thank you. And I will make the motion to adopt the resolution providing for the sale of housing improvement bonds in the amount of $8,80,000. >> Thank you, Council Member Romey. Um, Council Member Calbertt. >> I'll second. And I also second what Council Member Romey just said. [Applause] >> Yeah. And just um just to add just a little bit, but um you know when we first started doing HAS, it it seemed and it was about what 10 or 15 years ago. Um it seemed like well we're helping people out. That's a nice thing. But um as we've gotten some experience with it, it's it's a real important tool in the toolbox of preserving affordable housing. And particularly at a time when condos are not being built because of other legislative issues, you know, preserving what we've got are important and finding ways to get more are important, but uh HAS are really a valuable tool that I'm really proud of the fact that Minnetonka has been one of the leaders in the utilization. And so hats off to our staff and the their efforts because we have preserved literally hundreds of affordable homes in Minnetonka. And uh you know um preserving is way better than building. So um so with that, we've got a motion and a second. Um Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbert. >> Yes. >> Rome. >> Yes. And I forgot to give a shout out to our finance department, Mr. Nelson as well, who is I'm sure involved in this. So yes, >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilburn, >> yes. >> We >> Yes. Motion carries. Item 14B is a request to provide water and sewer service to an unadressed Eden Prairie property generally located south of Yellow Circle Drive and north of Highway 62. And Miss Thomas, that's your report. >> Uh, thank you, Mayor Wears. This evening, uh, staff is requesting feedback on this request. There's actually no formal action, uh, for the council to take. There's no specific process or procedure to to follow. For over um 40 years, Minnotonka has provided uh roadway access and public sewer and water to two properties in Eden Prairie. They're labeled here as 6130 and 6101 uh Blue Circle Drive. The sites are really physically connected to the Opus development. They're separated from the city of Eden Prairie by uh Highway 62. In 1977, the two cities uh entered into a joint powers agreement and under that agreement, um Eden Prairie contributed to the costs of uh inputting that public infrastructure to these uh sites. Uh moving forward, Minnetonka has been responsible for maintaining the roadway and the public portion of the utilities together with covering the costs to do so. And we do read the water meters and then bill those property owners directly. There is still a vacant parcel uh to the west that was not included in the 1977 joint powers agreement. It has frontage on Yellow Circle Drive. it lacks uh sewer and water and Eden Prairie recently formally requested that the city of Minnitonka provide those utilities uh to the site again through a joint powers agreement. The request is um based on a a concept plan uh that Eden Prairie uh recently received. The plan suggests construction of about 200 um units, rental units on the property. It's about three and a half acres in total size. In reviewing the request, staff has determined that we do have capacity as currently constructed. Our utilities currently constructed in the area. Specifically the water distribution system is adequate uh in the area and the sewer system as is noted here has 50% capacity remaining in um that sewer shed which is uh generally or I should say specifically uh outlined uh with the darker black line. So a portion of opus is in the same uh sewer shed. We're calculating that a 200 unit building would reduce the capacity in that sewer shed by about 5% meaning that 45% of that capacity would remain for other um development or redevelopment uh in the area. the AUA that was conducted for the overall um opus area uh did look at kind of maximum buildout and these numbers are based on that maximum buildout. [Applause] As I stated before, there is no specific procedural step that's required this evening. We're simply requesting comments um feedback on this request to provide sewer and water. Specifically, is the council interested in proceeding with a joint powers agreement? If so, um what concerns and issues do you have? uh if any so that sta Manitonka staff and Eden Prairie staff can discuss those as we draft an agreement which would ultimately have to come back obviously to the council for your um consideration and approval or alternatively is the council not inclined uh to proceed with a joint powers agreement for utilities here and with that I would turn it back to the council I can stand for questions but Miss Wishnack and Mr. Manchester um are also available. >> Great. Um thank you, Miss Thomas. And um I will turn to my council members and see if you have any questions. And it looks like council member Wilburn has some. >> Well, I I can frame it as a question. Um it's so my only concern is if we if um there were say to be uh more growth than anticipated in the opus area and we get to a a place where we need to redo sewer or um you know make some changes to capacity that can we have it in the agreement that Eden Prairie would uh pay part of those costs. Mr. Manchester. >> Yeah. Um, Council Wil, Mayor and Council, I might defer to Mr. Nelson, but I mean, certainly that's the feedback we're looking for tonight. I mean, those are always possibilities, but I don't know if Eric has anything to add. >> Sure. >> U Mr. Nelson. >> Thank you, Mayor. Council member Wilburn. Uh, of course, when you're looking at a joint powers agreement and the nature of a negotiation, anything is really possible in that realm. I just will note that I think it's perhaps a bit unlikely too because as mentioned by uh Susan Thomas, the the environmental review that was conducted initially here, the alternative urban areawide review AU um studies a full max buildout scenario that maximizes all of the development potential based on the comp plan guidance uh for the area. And so it looks at that and and models that. And so the numbers that have been referenced here are those max scenario numbers. So I think it's unlikely. Uh although again we also are talking about a 1977 joint powers agreement and so if you're looking you know that long ahead in the future uh you know who knows what will happen. >> Very good. Other questions council councilor Shaq. >> Thank you mayor. One of the things that I've been thinking about, you know, there's um that concept of kind of being neighborly and and we want to do what is most efficient environmentally. Um I I guess my question is two-part. Is it one is there ever a scenario especially with all this conversation about how great Eden Prairie is doing on their budget. Um a scenario where we ask for something in return. one and two I'd like to have and an and it doesn't have to be precise but I assume there are areas throughout the city where perhaps we are using services from another city you know are is this kind of one of these things where we it's kind of like customary that cities will do this or is this unusual >> Miss Thomas >> uh Mr. Mr. Mayor, I'll start and and my colleagues may jump in. There are certainly other areas in the city that I can think of in in my time with the city that have undergone development um on our fringes where we have provided these services to other communities. I think of um Deep Haven, um Greenwood, those smaller um communities along the lake. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that's occurred in in my 24 years with the city where Minnetonka has in those years sought um services from another community. That doesn't mean there aren't, but they would um predate my time. >> And Mr. Mr. Manchester, do you have something to add? >> Yeah, just to add to that, uh Council Member Shaq, Mayor Council, you know, public works specifically, we partner a lot with our adjacent cities. I mean, for example, you know, Eden Prairie, there's boundaries when we pave roads and different things. I mean, do we get out and measure everything? I mean, there's sometimes there's areas Eden Prairie specifically has, you know, done some paving in Minnetonka for us on other projects as we have for them. And so, Hopkins, um, all the cities around us. So, there's definitely things that we services specifically. I mean, nothing's coming to mind, but I'm sure there's stuff out there we've we've done before. I'll try to think of some, right? And then um Mr. Funk, excuse me. >> Thank you, mayor and council. I would just add to what staff has already mentioned. It was about a year and a half ago where the city of Edina did reach out to the city of Minnitonka to extend utility services not too far from this area. If you go a little further north up 169, there was a property again in Edina that was looking at a housing development and they were looking to again I I use the word um tap into our utility infrastructure. uh just it was more feasible for them to work closer and they had some more logistical challenges they d and and bottom line is that project didn't come to fruition but nonetheless that was still a conversation we had with one of our neighbors the other thing I would also reference is uh and this is coming up at your October study session uh Miss Wishnack will talk to you about the um planning that's been happening with the city of Hopkins around the light rail station so I I mean in some ways this is similar where you've got a neighboring city. We've got an area that we have a perhaps a shared interest in just like we do with the city of Hopkins around their Shady Oak station and so two cities can get together do some visioning process and come to you know just some understanding of what will take place in those areas that happened on this in 1977 and so here we are again you know 50 some years later um looking at a shared boundary and potential development in that space. So, just some more history in terms of there are things around their borders where we do have some interest with our neighboring cities and we've always gotten along very well with our cities in terms of um those common interests in working together on u making sure both cities end up in a situation where everyone feels good about that development project. >> Thanks, Mr. Funk. Council member Romey, I know you have something. >> No, I just have a couple of questions mostly and I think I asked some of those this morning uh when in my conversation with Mr. Funkin. So if that was sent to me, I sorry I missed it was okay. Um well, can I ask them anyway? Yeah. Okay, great. So one of my questions was how many units um what what is the makeup the composition of those adjacent properties at 6130 and 6101 right now? Are they also apartment buildings? What are they? Are they commercial? >> Um Thomas, >> mayor and council. uh they are office industrial properties at 6130 and 6101. 6130 is undergoing a redevelopment right now. This aerial that you see is actually a very recent aerial. So these are the two new um in more industrial warehouse properties being constructed on that site. >> And um thank you if um I appreciate that. And so when we talk about you know us extending our infrastructure does that mean that you know basically they would do the construction or the developer would do that and then just tie into our existing infrastructure would be be responsible for kind of providing that infrastructure. >> Yeah. Again, I'll start and my colleagues may um jump in, but just as any development in our community, the developer is typically responsible for the installation and the costs of the installation. And that would be, I would assume, the case here. Um the city would be responsible for the ongoing maintenance of the public portions of the infrastructure. Um typically those public portions are in the um streets themselves or just adjacent to the streets. the developer is responsible for everything on their own property. >> And so those that infrastructure is already existing going past. Okay. Um good to know. And so basically we have pipe going along um or infrastructure going along that street. I assume yellow circle or or wherever we have that. And uh those buildings are tying into that. On the other side of that um yellow circle or blue circle drive is Minnotonka. So our pipes are there anyway. And so they would just be tying into that. Sorry if this is getting a little bit into the weeds here. Um and so right now, you know, we would be paying for maintenance of that infrastructure regardless. Um and so there wouldn't be really any cost to us. It's just the water capacity at this point. Is that correct? >> Yeah. Council member Mele, mayor and council, correct? Uh, you know, the developer would be responsible to extend a private service to their site and they would dump uh essentially into those. So, yeah, it would essentially be the treatment or the water capacity, but there's no city really really city infrastructure itself. It's a private service extension, >> right? Except for the fact that we have to maintain the public lines that are going right there, but which are also serving Minnotonka properties adjacent across the street. >> Yep. Correct. >> All right. And um and and does our water and utility fees to those residents fully cover, you know, all costs, you know, for monitoring and things like that where it's not like we're losing uh funding that our taxpayers aren't subsidizing. Is that fair to say? >> That's really correct. to essentially the the infrastructure is there. >> Okay. Thanks. Thank you. >> All right. Um other counselor Calbert. >> Thank you, mayor. I have a few questions. So, you know, it's so complicated because it's not our property. So, we can't tell them. You know, I have no idea if there are affordable units going in there. So I don't know what kind of public benefit there is for instance and I'm looking at all of those I mean really there's kind of drastic tree loss you know we don't control their uh it's fair tree ordinances um and so I do know in reading the packet about the adjacent property which is an industrial property that the soils are clayy and we're going to be losing all of the trees there that suck up a lot of water. And um so my concern is a little bit about INI um because the soils are bad in that part of the city and we're the there will be significant tree loss there and addition of imperous surface and so I'm just wondering you know what what we might be able to anticipate in terms of cost there or what we can ask Eden Prairie to do to make sure that there aren't costs to the city with that. And um I'm also wondering I'm assuming that Eden Prairie will pay the sack fees. So th those are the kinds of questions sort of Mayor if I may. >> Yes. Go ahead, Miss Wishnack, please. >> Council member Calbert. Um I think it's important to point out when we had 6130 connecting that was already covered by the old agreement but American family was there so it was a pretty developed site a little bit different situation than what we have with this property right kind of untouched um natural however it's just like our property in Minnetonka you have to do all the right things with uh infrastructure for storm water etc. Um, but if that's an issue you want addressed by the joint powers agreement, we can add that to the list of things to talk to them about. Um, it I think I would phrase it more in the what additional um impact to the services of Minnetonka in terms of storm water I think is what you were getting at. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. We have that on the list. Thank you. >> All right, council. Are there other questions that anyone's thought of? Council member Romey. >> Um, and again, Mr. Funk, I apologize if this has already been sent. We had talked about a few other options uh this morning that I had just brought up, and I don't know if uh staff has already thought of these or if they're worth uh pursuing or even considering. um you know you know potentially a a property or a land swap um since that's such a little al cove that you know we're doing all the services for it's cut off from the rest of Eden Prairie whatever that would you know kind of give us a little bit more control if that would be something worth considering or pursuing or at least discussing um you know I understand that's been done in a few other instances recently recently. So, just didn't know if that was something to consider. >> Miss Wishnack, >> mayor and council member Romey, um there are a couple of situation that come to mind. Um and one of them is directly south of here. We had a Starbucks um on the south side of 62 that used to be in Minnetonka and we had an annexation um detachment agreement with the city of Minnotonka. That was a fairly straightforward transaction because that was all south of 62 and it made uh sense from a service standpoint. etc. Um, thank you Susan. She's pointing out where the Starbucks is. Thank you. >> Um, the other situation I can think of is Hopkins, uh, right at Main Street and Shady Oak Road. There was that little piece as you come into the Shady Oak apartments where we did a land swap. We did that with the subway. So, Hopkins got subway. Uh, we were able to get the piece for the developer so that the jurisdiction would be all Minnitankaka. The site here doesn't lend itself really to a swap. I can't think of any. I know almost every parcel of the 24,000 parcels in Manag I can't think of one that would make sense to swap out for this parcel in terms of what could be detached because it's all about fairness, right? What's the property value? What's the um new value of the development and so forth? And that's exactly how we did it with Hopkins. Um, it was an even swap, if you will. I don't know of any other property along this stretch or even near Eden Prairie that could be swapped out. Otherwise, I think I would I think we would have gone down that path already, but >> Okay. Thank you. >> Mhm. Are we providing I'm sorry. Are we providing other services besides kind of infrastructure, water, sewer, road? >> Oh, public safety is one thing I think you mentioned in your email. um and fire service. In the past, what's happened when we have situations like this, often times the police department, the fire department will sit down with their public safety partners in those cities and they will decide on how to adequately serve the properties. Now, I think a lot of opus is uh answered by Mitaka, but occasionally there might be an issue where they have um both departments might be called in a situation like this. It just depends. But they talk about that depending on how the jurisdiction is um in the end what happens. They don't really give opinions on whether or not to have service. It's how they provide service when the transaction is complete. So, >> all right. Thank you. >> Any anyone else? All right. I've got a I've got a few. Um and I and I Mr. Funk and I spent quite a bit of time talking about this and we we talked about Okay. is there, you know, land swaps and um and um annexations and detachments and things like that and you know um um and uh you know I mean to me it'd be great if we got the whole little crescent here but I I just don't see that as being practical. Um, one of the questions I had was um earlier when um this was being reported upon um we heard that I mean this 1977 deal so that's 48 years ago um the um Eden Prairie paid for quite a bit of the infrastructure associated with 6130 and 6101 and so um as far as this on this parcel without a an address that is a subject of our conversation. Now, um how would that work? Um what did Eden what did Eden Prairie pay for um on the existing parcels and what would they be expected to pay for in on this to um to um you know consummate the deal and and make sure that if this is Eden Prairie then Eden Prairie is paying for what they should be pay paying for and we're um we're connecting um but but to their um infrastructure. So, you know, what what makes it apples to apples versus what happened in 1977 is my question. And I don't know if we know the answer, but that's a question maybe in the negotiation that um you know, I'd like to have some clarity on. >> Yeah, mayor. I I don't know the specific answer, but I do recall having read the 77 um joint powers agreement. It was based on a percentage of the total costs um this whole area was being built out. So it was what was Eden Prairie's percentage of the larger area and they contributed that uh same percentage then to total cost. >> All right. And that makes that makes sense and I don't need to know the formulas but that's helpful. And then the other question I had was you know when we when we get affordable housing we we talk about a 30-year term. And um you know we know that as time passes I mean um 6130 we're we're talking 48 years ago and um are we talking about um providing services into perpetuity or are we talking about services for a finite period of time and if so what would we recommend? Would it be 30 years? Would it be 50 years? Would it be more? Um I you know I have my doubts that going beyond 50 years is really something that is in our best interest because um of the uh of the uncertainties associated with what's what's the world going to look like in 50 years? But um you know with agreements like this elsewhere um are time limitations ever put on them or or is it something that no you do it and you own it and it's perpetual? So those are my questions. >> U Mr. Mayor, I think we can look more into the timing of it, but it isn't like an easement, right, which is more of a 30-year horizon. >> Um, joint powers can end at certain points, so that's allowed, but whether you'd want to and the person receiving the service would want to agree to that. That right, >> that's a whole another matter. Um, >> right. >> I think we can put it on our list of questions. >> Yeah, I think I mean it's, you know, that's it. I don't anticipate an answer tonight, but I do, you know, it is a question that I want to that I'd want to ask just to protect the interests of >> um taxpayers in the future. So, um so this is not an action item and we shared um quite a bit of perspective and a and a good number of questions. Um I mean I' I'd ask staff, is there anything else that you would like us to do? I know that Julie Edington is on the line I believe for a I I was told right here that Julie Edington is available to provide um um on this item. >> So >> I think that was for the HIA item mayor but >> well but it says it says this well the item description is different because it's specifically this one. >> Got it. >> So >> we haven't been dealing with her on that's so I don't I'm not >> okay that that's good. You know, I I thought it was the HIA thing, too, but then this little form that I get at each meeting says, "Request to provide water and sewer service to an unadressed Eden Prairie parcel generally located." So, >> yeah, we apologize. So, that shouldn't >> Okay. So, that Okay. So, I'm pardon my I was confused for a valid reason. >> Of course. >> Understood. >> All right. So, then So, never mind Julie um um or Julie Edington or Julie Wishnack, but um Mr. Funk. >> Yeah, thank you, mayor. I think um as you're wrapping up this conversation, just I want to get a sense staff would want to get a sense if you're generally supportive of continuing the conversation with Eden Prairie. I I think that's Yes. But I think that would be helpful for staff just to get that general sense from you. Um as Miss Wishnack mentioned a few minutes ago, we're keeping a a list of some of the things you've said here this evening, and that's uh we'll use that to continue our conversations with Eden Prairie. Uh such as I think you've mentioned um well, again, a number of options. I would add and um that you know from I think from a city perspective we've been really good neighbors and so if the roles were reversed we would certainly want um cooperation from our neighboring city and so I think we want to approach it in that same manner. That being said we're still want to make sure we're looking out for our taxpayer interests and one of the things that I just occurred to me that I want to further vet out with our staff as you think about where this property is located. We are likely providing snow plowing services for um people that go in and out of those sites, perhaps police and fire services. Though, of course, we have mutual aid agreements. Um so, I'll certainly want to talk with our staff a little bit further in terms of just the amount of city services provided because really this is landlocked um in the city of Minnetonka. So, there are some probably some ancillary benefits they're receiving. um certainly don't want to hold that against our neighboring city, but I think there might be an avenue to pursue in terms of like a payment in lie of taxes, just some sort of type of recognition for the services that we're providing for the development of these parcels. So, I think that's just further I hear I see your head shaking. So, I think that'd be something too we'd want to add to our list and further have conversation about. >> Thank you, Mr. Funk. I think that's a good summary. Is there is there anything contrary to that that council members would would want to add? >> There's nothing contrary. I just think um I think the the whole idea is you know people often remark it uh the difference between the levies in Eden Prairie and Minnetonka. And so I just do want to make sure that we are protecting the interests of our uh taxpayers. So I appreciate uh Mr. Funk's comments just now. And also we did talk uh earlier um about something that was mentioned here on the deis as well which is um you know sort of in the joint powers agreement exploring um you know fairness and making sure that we're keeping up um because although we have existing sewer lines we're adding um we're diminishing our own capacity and that is added use which is in some ways wear and tear on our infrastructure and so um you know we're the people that are going to be providing that and I know that they pay for the service. I just want to make sure that in the end we come out whole. >> Very very good. Um well well thanks. I think we I think we covered it um perhaps more than we than you wanted us to, but um you know I mean I think it goes back to the notion that we are good neighbors. Um and um you know this is kind of a unique I mean I I certainly wouldn't mind finding this um this entire um crescent in the city of Minnetonka because the um um Highway 62 makes is a logical dividing between the cities. But I don't see that as being practical at this time. But but who knows? There may come a time when there is an opportunity to swap and it may make sense at some future time. But I don't think that should hold this up at this juncture. My my personal view. >> Excuse me. >> So um we'll we'll move on if we um um so we are moving just to items appointments and reappointments. And we have two um two of those. The first is the DEI commission young adult appointment. And uh Mr. Funk, do you have that or do I take that? >> Either one, Mr. Mayor, however you want to approach it, uh these are uh appointments being brought forward by your recommendations. So, if you want to touch on those or I'd be happy to I'll just um you know, a couple things. I've had quite a few conversations with other cities and how they do youth appointments because sometimes we've had we've been challenged and um you know speaking of Eden Prairie I talked to Ron Casey the may the mayor there and he said you know if we have kids who want to be on on a border commission or young adults who want to be on a border commission we we just say yes and I' you know and um and I think you know from a process perspective that makes you know it's not like we have dozens and dozens of people that are applying dying. So, um you know, I think that h that idea has merit. But I did speak with um uh um Muhammad Omar um a young man um very bright young man who was strongly interested in being in our DEI commission. And so I recommend his appointment to the DEI commission. So that that's council member Shaq. >> I will second that. >> All right. Um we got a motion and a second. Um, any other questions or comments? Or Miss Larson, would you please call roll? >> Calbertt, >> yes. >> Romey, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Shaq, >> yes. >> Wilbur, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. And then 15B is the subject of our addendum. And um, you know, uh, Mr. Funk, I can let you take that one since your name is on it, but um it it concerns the EDAC. So, um I'll turn it to you if you wouldn't mind and absolutely from there. >> Thank you, mayor and council members. As the mayor just noted, item 14, excuse me, 15B, it relates to a appointment to the Economic Development Advisory Commission. Uh we do have a midyear vacancy and we've typically handle those just depending on circumstances. uh if it's earlier in the year, we might uh defer to uh the application pool that we had earlier this year. If it's later in the year, sometimes we'll we'll leave it open until the next recruitment process starts, which is going to be here right around the corner. With the current uh vacancy, we do have some business coming up and we're concerned about quorum. And so in talking uh our staff talking with uh Mayor Whisam about that appointment uh we are recommending or at least I'm sorry not we the mayor is recommending appointment of the Genie Pebbles to the EDAC to fill a vacancy effective starting September 30th 2025 expiring on January third 31st 2026. I think the mayor has spoken to Miss Pebbles and can and can speak to that. Uh we did look back at our application pool. those applications were provided to the mayor um based on the interviews that we had done earlier this year. So, it was um someone you've interviewed and they were in essence kind of next on the list in terms of our ranking and criteria. Uh I know the mayor again reached out to out to her and um maybe it's turned over to you mayor based on your recommendation then. So, that's >> right. And I I can just add a little color to that. Thank you. I think you covered it well. Um yeah, I I went down the list in the order that the council had voted and we had two individuals that um were under consideration. I looked at both applications and I contacted Ms. Pebbles and she expressed um an enthusiasm for being part of the EDAC. So I think we should move with that and that's my recommendation. So if there's a second, we'll get that done. >> Council member Romey, >> I'll second. All right, we've got a motion and a second by Council Member Romey. Miss Larson, please call roll. >> Calbert, >> yes. >> Rome, >> yes. >> Kley, >> yes. >> Foster Bolton, >> yes. >> Zack, >> yes. >> Wilurn, >> yes. >> Wearsome, >> yes. Motion carries. And if I made a mistake earlier and said that was 14B, it's 15B. Um, so to be accurate there. So then that brings us to item 16, adjournment. And Ms. or Council Member Wilburn, >> I move adjournment. Um and council member Calbertt. >> Second. >> Okay, we've got a motion by council member Wilbur and a second by council member um uh Calbertt. Um all in favor say I. >> I. We are adjourned. [Music] [Music]