only if you use it all right good evening everyone to the glendale city council meeting of october 26 2021 this meeting is called order uh roll call is not necessary all members are in attendance if you'd take note of that our next two items on our agenda or our invocation and our pledge of allegiance the invocation today is going to be delivered by a good friend of mine reverend judah montenegro uh gentlemen in the audience if you're wearing a hat if you'd please remove it if everyone stand with me for the prayer and then remain standing for pledge of allegiance mr montenegro let us all pray dear lord heavenly father today we pray in order to solemnize the proceedings of the honorable city council and for the benefits to the city of glendale our communities neighborhoods businesses schools and its benefits to our homes families and individual citizens including those that are present today as a resident of glendale i pray god that you continue to guide our leaders and honorable city councilmen as they make decisions that will impact our society and posterity give us all wisdom prudence understanding and knowledge in order to be a blessing to our surroundings let us stand strong against any negative forces or currents that may come against our good morals principles and values and our wonderful city in general as a minister of the lord i bind anything that comes against the city and the leadership therein and i loosen blessings success protection the prosperity in each home business school and public region i pray for every father and mother and leader men and women of the city and the nation i pray for all the public servants and law enforcement officers that you lord may continue to guide strengthen and protect them help us all be an exemplary exemplary role model to the generation to follow the youth the children and the future society i pray for the president of our country i pray for the governor governor of our lovely state of arizona and i pray for the mayor of the great city of glendale jerry wires and all the city councilmen that we may stand strong as one city under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all i seal this prayer in the powerful name of our lord jesus christ amen amen thank you so much but everyone join me in the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you judah okay moving on uh next on the agenda is the consideration of the minutes from the october 12 2021 voting meeting council members you have any corrections or additions to the minutes cnn can i get a motion to approve the october 12th 2021 voting meeting minutes yes mayor i move we approve the minutes of the october 12 2021 voting meeting i have a motion from the vice president council member clark all in favor please signify by saying aye aye can you say april you guys have it do have it the motion carries moving on to proclamations we haven't got any consent agenda we'll now move on to just that agenda items two through seven items on a consent agenda or routine nature they've been previously studied by this city council at a workshop session they are intended to be acted upon in one motion by this council can have a motion to approve consent agenda items two through seven yes mayor i move we approve consent agenda items two through seven second i have motion council member thomas chomsky and council member eldama to approve the consent agenda items two through seven any discussion hearing none do we have any speaker cards no sir very good uh no discussion all in favor of approving the consent agenda please signify by saying aye aye aye any opposed saying napier guys have a dude have it that does carry consent resolutions ms bower would you please read consent resolutions items eight through twelve by the number and the title please item eight resolution number r21-104 resolution the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing and directing the entering into of an intergovernmental agreement with the cities of avondale chandler gilbert glendale goodyear mesa peoria phoenix scottsdale surprise tempe and the county of maricopa for the edward byrne memorial justice assistance grant program reallocation and authorizing the acceptance and expenditure of the fiscal year 2021 local solicitation in the approximate amount of 78 thousand dollars 78 712 on behalf of the glendale police department item nine resolution number r 21-105 a resolution to counsel the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing the entering into of a sub-recipient agreement and authorizing the acceptance and expenditure of the 2021 department of homeland security program grant award agreement number 21 0807-01 for the 2021 glendale fire department terrorism liaison officer program sustainment a-z in the approximate amount of four hundred 10 on behalf of the glendale fire department item ten resolution number r 21-106 a resolution the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing the entering in two of a sub-recipient agreement and authorizing the acceptance and expenditure of the 2021 department of homeland security grant program award agreement number 210807-02 for the 2021 uasi dell fire department rrt sustainment in the approximate amount of 108 942 on behalf of the glendale fire department item 11 resolution number r 21-107 a resolution the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing acceptance and expenditure of the fiscal year 2020 homeland security grant program award from the u.s department of homeland security federal emergency management agency in the approximate amount of 1 million sixty nine thousand four hundred seven dollars and twenty seven cents funded under the assistance to firefighters grants for purchase of thermal imaging cameras and implementation of a comprehensive cancer screening program on behalf of the glendale fire department item 12 resolution number r 21-108 a resolution of council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing and directing the into of an intergovernmental agreement with the city of phoenix for emergency backup water services that concludes the consent resolutions thank you can i get a motion to approve items eight through twelve on the consent resolutions agenda yes mary movie approved consent resolutions eight through twelve i have a motion council member tom trump second council member turner to approve items eight through twelve on the consent resolutions agenda uh open it up for discussion we have any speaker cards yes sir all right any discussion seeing none i get a i already have a motion and agenda all in favor of approving the consent resolutions agenda please signify by saying aye aye aye opposed say nay sure guys have it do have it that carries bids and contracts mr can you introduce item 13 can somebody turn their ringer off or whatever is doing that authorization enter into a linking agreement with western states petroleum inc for gasoline and diesel fuel and ratification of expenditures okay no presentation any questions no questions from anyone can i get a motion to approve item 13. i move we prove item 13. second okay i have most from the vice mayor second council member aldama to approve the recommended action council members you have any questions or discussions on the motion go ahead i don't know is mine on yeah okay this item and all of the items under bids and contracts are five-year contracts and it's my habit and practice i don't believe that five-year contracts are appropriate uh council only remains for four years and there's no continuity of council oversight so you will find that i will be voting no on all items under bids and contracts tonight thank you you said no speaker cards for this item that is correct okay well we'll do a roll call vote councilmember aldama how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote member milner how do you vote hi councilmember thomas how do you vote hi councilmember turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote i'm sure boats either motion carries mrs bower would you introduce item 14 please i do have a speaker card on this one also authorization to enter into an agreement with agilent technologies inc for the purchase of laboratory instrumentation parts can i get a motion oh i'm sorry mayor uh i moved the approval item number 14. second i have motion member milner section council member tom chop to prove the recommended action council members you have any questions or discussion on this motion hearing none i do have a speaker card lorena cruz that said she would like to speak on item number 14. she is in opposition miss cruz where are you mayor wires yes i've just been informed she meant to write item number 20. i can see that it says 14 okay item 20. okay so we do not have a speaker card on this item no questions from the council conduct a role called vote council realdom why do you vote aye councilmember clark how do you vote hey councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember tom and shaw how do you vote hi councilmember turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote hi in the chair boat's eye that motion carries ms barbara would you introduce item 15 for us please authorization to enter into a linking agreement with foster electric motor service inc for water and wastewater equipment maintenance and repair any presentation no okay any speaker cards on item 15 yes sir very good can i get a motion mayor go ahead motion to approve it number fifteen second headquarters from council member el doma second council member tom chop to approve the recommended action items council members are any questions or discussions on this motion seeing none i have no speaker cards roll call vote council member obama how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote nay councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember tom trump how do you vote aye councilmember turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote all right chair of outside motion does carry miss barter would you introduce item 16 for us please authorization to enter into a linking agreement with james cook and hobson inc for water and wastewater equipment maintenance and repair no presentation okay any speaker cards yes sir thank you can i get a motion mayor go ahead i move the uh um approve item number 16. second i have motion council member milner second councilmember tom shop to prove the recommended action council members you have any questions or discussion on this motion hearing none no speaker cards roll call vote council member how do you vote hi council member clark how do you vote council member how do you vote aye councilmember tom trump how do you vote member turner how do you vote hi vice mayor eddie vote i'm chair of outside that motion carries ms bauer would you introduce item 17 please authorization to enter into a linking agreement with hennessey mechanical sales llc for water and wastewater equipment maintenance and repair presentation none speaker cards no sir okay motion mayor go ahead i move we authorize the city manager to enter into the described linking agreement with hennessey mechanical sales second okay for item number 17. okay very good i have a motion and a second account with thomas up to approve the recommended action council members you have any questions hearing none presentation there's been a motion in a second in a second already oh yeah okay all right roll call what councilman roll down how do you vote councilmember clark how do you vote nay councilmember milner how do you vote hi customer thomas how do you vote hi councilmember turner how do you go aye vice mayor how do you vote all right chair boat's eye that motion does carry item number 18. authorization enter into a professional services agreement with trojan technologies group ulc corporation for ultraviolet system parts and services presentation no speaker no sir no can i get a motion yes mary movie enter into professional services agreement with trojan technologies group llc so llc sorry i have american council member tom chomps second council member aldama any questions from the council hearing none no speaker cards roll call vote council member aldama how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote nate councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember tom trump how do you vote councilmember turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote hi chair of outside motion carries moving on to land development actions ms barr would you introduce item 19 please resolution number are 21-109 a resolution of council the city of glendale maricopa county arizona amending the general plan map of the city of glendale arizona by approving general plan amendment gpa 21-09 for property located west of the southwest corner of 59th avenue and thunderbird road ordinance number 21-67 an ordinance of the council the city of glendale maricopa county arizona rezoning property located west of the southwest corner of 59th avenue and thunderbird road from co commercial office to c1 neighborhood commercial amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance good evening mayor members of the council here to provide staff report this evening is tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you mr phelps good evening marion council before you is an application titled raising canes and the request is for a general plan amendment as well as a rezoning application the subject site is located west of the southwest corner of 59th avenue and thunderbird road to give context to the site based on the area the subject site it has been known as the development of the village inn restaurant to the east is the tudor time child care center and then located just north across thunderbird road is the chick-fil-a restaurant with drive-through services once again the first request is for a minor general plan amendment where the applicant is requesting to change the land use destination from office to general commercial the second request before you this evening is to rezone the site from commercial office to general commercial both of these zoned districts are within the established city zoning ordinance the site plan it identifies an end user as raising cane's restaurant with drive-through services the proposed zoning would allow for the drive-through service subject to cup conditional use permit approval by the planning commission which the applicant received approval subject to council approving the general plan amendment as well as the rezoning application the applications were heard before planning commission on october the 7th there were no oppositions to the general plan amendment or the reasoning application the commission recommended approval of the gpa as written and the rezoning with one stipulation which is provided in the staff report mayor and council this concludes the presentation the applicant or i am available and willing to address any questions that the council may have leading up to opening up the public hearing okay we're going to go ahead and open it up to public hearing and then we'll take questions i was trying to figure out where it was public hearing is now open on item 19 resolution number r21-109 and and also ordinance number 021-67 we have any questions from this council mayor go ahead sir um i i just had some questions regarding the drive-through um okay why don't you state your question and then we'll figure out who's gonna answer it okay uh the the question is how exactly is that going to work on that street thunderbird rose is extremely extremely busy uh you have a lot of traffic going in both directions we even closed off uh paseo park uh exit i believe uh because it had so much traffic uh going out onto that street so my question is how is that um drive-through going to work and how is that going to impact traffic and i just kind of want to know where it's coming in and going out so that we can visualize that mayor council i will direct that to the applicant but i will share as the applicant is coming forward that when this item was heard before a planning commission for the conditional use permit there were concerns expressed in regards to thunderbird road being busy and the implications of the chick-fil-a being just to the north of the site planning commission added a stipulation to restrict the access off of thunderbird avenue to help mitigate some of the traffic that will be taking place but i'll allow the applicant to speak more directly towards that question okay thank you that's what i need to know i want to know you would sure for the record state uh who you are who you represent my name is chuck bennett i'm with pm design group the architects are raising canes we're located at 76 mitchell drive in phoenix very good um to answer the question what raising canes typically does and what we have explained in the previous for this drive-thru especially during busy times keynes will typically have crew members trained in going out and actually monitoring traffic as well as ordered they go out there with their order takers and to expedite orders so what was discussed at the planning commission and what has been discussed internally is that as cars exit the drive through they are going to be forced to turn left and encircle the site which will give them uh better access both exits the one that will go out to 59 south so can you excuse me can you kind of show me on the map because i've had several constituents approach me about this and so i want to make sure i understand it sure i'm not sure i'm not sure okay so and um does this uh tell me this is the pen then it's not gonna work okay yeah you can use the mouse okay all right so all right so as cars exit the drive through they will be turning west and then encircling the site to either egress out onto thunderbird which is a southbound only exit once i'm on it excuse me please don't speak while we're having presentations if you do you can go out in the lobby and talk thank you so it would be south so again the exit on the thunderbird is a right only so it'll be southbound only exit or they'll route up and then they will be able to exit onto thunderbird as well and that again will be right turn only currently currently there's no restrictions to write in and write out okay so if i'm reading this right um i mean you you had an arrow down here on i believe it's it's not thunderbird down here but thunderbird is to the north okay thunderbird burgess to the north and the stipulation from the planning commission meeting was a right turn exit only okay and then by routing again during the busiest of times because we did recognize that this could cause a potential traffic jam if cars were able to go directly to this exit they would then circle around the site and then they can you can see this car here this exit there's an exit way out to thunderbird there's an access road that's why i'm confused that's i'm sorry 59th myself okay that's mike i apologize okay 59th southbound that's a right turn only there's a okay very good that's what i wanted to know if you had there's a secondary exit there is okay um and may or if i may um on the uh how do you get into it can you turn left off of thunderbird into the facility no no the stipulation from the planning commission is right turn in right turn out only okay okay that should uh satisfy the concerns that i had thank you very welcome any other questions from the council yeah so the hospice of the valley is literally just directly that would be south of this proposed site and maybe you don't know what that is but i'm i know where it is and i'm looking on the map but they're the ingress egress they don't use any of that is he talking about using this road here down here by the by the that's the preschool yeah because they're going to come out on 59th okay but that's right by the preschool right yes okay all right thank you that answers my question okay any other questions thank you you're welcome okay i have no one else wishing to speak on this i don't have any other cards on this item public hearing is now closed can i get a motion on item 19 resolution r21-109 anybody um mayor go ahead i move that we approve resolution number r21-109 second okay councilmember milner sentence council member clark to approve the recommended action is there any discussion on the motion hearing none roll call vote council member obama how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote aye councilmember melner how do you vote hi councilmember tom chop how do you vote mayor can i ask one more question uh just typically how much traffic per how many cars do you have a car average car count per day i'm just a little concerned because it's next to a preschool and a hospice you you can state your concern but we've already started the votes all right well then i'll vote nay thank you councilman returned how do you vote aye council vice mayor how do you vote all right sure vote side the motion does carry okay now can i get a motion on item 19 ordinance 0-2-1-6-7 this would be a good time to have the same question the mayor go ahead i move that we approve ordinance number 021-67 second okay i have a motion council member milner second council member clerk to approve the recommended action discussion on this council member tom chop thank you very much mr mayor um if the gentleman has some idea of what kind of car count you're looking at i just know um i know how busy chick-fil-a is i know how busy uh the canes that's over in my district is and it generates long lines of cars and because it's so close to i'm literally next to a preschool and there's a hospice uh inpatient hospice unit directly south of it i'd just like to know about how much traffic is this going to be generating i i don't have a car count for you i can certainly get that from from keynes and provide that for you i don't have a number here but i do know that they um they do have during their busiest times they do have traffic control measures that they had in place that they've done throughout the united states and they're as concerned about traffic as as you are and the safety of people around on and around their site okay thank you i'll be there in a second okay any other questions from our council hearing none we'll conduct a roll call vote council member hold on mighty vote aye councilmember claire coutivo aye councilmember milner how do you vote i'd like to explain what matthew along with the prior vote we took i feel very satisfied like i said i had several constituents that were concerned about the traffic issue i'm really pleased to hear that keynes is going to monitor traffic they're going to have people out there they're going to help mod that and then also we only have the right in right out deterrence which i think should satisfy the concerns of those who did have concerns and with that i go to eye thank you council remember thomas how do you vote mayor like to explain my vote and i i actually have a canes in my district and i and i i love it and i but i understand the amount of traffic it generates and i'm not concerned about the um monitoring the traffic it's just it's a much higher intense use it's going to create more people on site than an office use would um next to an inpatient hospice unit and next to a preschool um just a little bit more of a ruckus i think than what it was originally zoned for for that reason i'll vote nay councilmember turner how do you vote aye vice mayor how do you vote aye chair of outside motion does carry miss barrow would you introduce item number 20 please ordinance number oh 21-68 ordinance of the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona extending and increasing the corporate limits of the city of glendale maricopa county state of arizona pursuant to the provisions of title 9 chapter 4 section 9-471 arizona revised statutes and its amendments by annexing certain territory located at the southwest corner of northern avenue and reems road in the city of glendale consisting of approximately 103.78 acres to be known as annexation area number 228 amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance mayor members of the council here to provide staff report this evening is tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you mr phelps mary council um this is an annexation request for hopewell which is approximately 104 acres located at the southwest corner of northern avenue and reems road the subject project is currently in the county with ru 43 zoning classification and upon annexation if adopted the light zone will be rr45 both of these zoning classifications would allow for a single residence the applicant does have a companion rezoning application to rezone the property to pad plan area development which would be for a non-residential mixed use development vicinity map just to give context of where the subject site is to city hall the annexation map is to provide context to surrounding properties specifically those located in the city's boundaries which are highlighted in yellow city council was presented with this item at a workshop on august the 10th and which council provided a consensus to proceed for with the application on august 4th the application was brought before city council as a blank petition which is an opportunity for residents to speak on the annexation proposal during that blank petition there were county residents that spoke on the proposed development as it relates to being part of the rezoning application which is a little separate from the annexation request itself this evening staff is recommending council approve the annexation request and in doing so the action will be effective in 30 days with that marion council i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have any questions from the council hearing none okay i do have a few speaker cards uh for the audience i am not accepting any more speaker cards at this point so if they've been turned in we're going to take them but none after this point uh so with that i would like to get a motion uh to approve on item 20 first yes mayor i move we pass and adopt ordinance number 021-68 thank you okay i have motion councilmember clark sent from a second from the vice mayor to approve the recommended action discussion on the motion council members have you any questions okay so everyone pay attention if you filled out a card if you said that you do not wish to speak i'm going to state your name where you're from and i'm going to put down that you did not wish to speak and when we get to the speakers i'm going to announce the speaker you'll have two minutes to talk tonight i'll announce the person behind you and the person behind them so please be ready to go okay everybody got it okay so daniel vasquez says he does not wish to speak did not state if he supports opposes he just said he didn't want to speak so daniel i don't know where you're at okay just oppose your support thank you hiram vasquez oh same thing did not wish to speak from litchfield park thank you you you general vasquez same thing do not wish to speak but didn't say opposed thank you michael gross wants to speak on items 20 and 21 did not wish to speak supporter opposed thank you rosalinda meza does oppose does not wish to speak david levinda i hope that's close from litchfield park opposes does not wish to speak lanitus cruz i hope they said that right does not wish to speak opposes david miza does not wish to speak opposes jack cheatham does not wish to speak opposes jose bera opposes does not wish to speak laura curtis opposes does not wish to speak paulo meza opposes does not wish to speak juan hernandez opposes does not wish to speak okay now we're getting into the ones that do want to speak jason farmer if you'll come up um and you'll have two minutes following jason's karen tilia and then following her is lisa gross if you'll be ready to go i appreciate it what i need you to do when you come up state where you live i don't need your address i just need to know the city that you live in and then uh you got two minutes thank you thank you council members for your time my name is jason farmer i reside in litchfield park arizona i'm here speaking tonight also with representing part of my community as you can hear the residents that live in maricopa county in litchfield park oppose this annexation i oppose it for numerous reasons one is for the safety because of traffic flow with annexation down a rural road down also avenue we have children that sit there with waiting for the buses kids ride bicycles kids ride horses and we're planning on putting pork chops and dividers in the road diverting traffic i don't know if you guys but i pull a 30 foot trailer trying to pull out onto a pork chop road from a residence next to a proposed warehouse it's not going to be fun i currently i work work nice and sleek during the day have you ever lived next to a construction zone i it's annoyance right so i hear concrete trucks moving already from uh from a warehouse that's down the lane across from my counterpart eugenio right and they don't like that either so with uh excuse me it's six o'clock in the morning for me but annexation i am totally against with this proposed deal because for just for the traffic and for the the sheer safety of the general public and for that i thank you for your time thank you thank you karen tilia i think is how you pronounce it lisa you're up after her again if you'll stay where you live and then you'll have two minutes i'm karen tulia i live in litchfield park i'm very concerned about this for the safety of our neighborhood i've lived there 16 years it's a very quiet very rural area and all these warehouses are coming in and they're destroying our piece you have trucks running up and down our roads the other morning i was out with dogs at six three o'clock in the morning and counted seven concrete trucks racing down our road we have a ridiculous speed limit already for a rural zone it and a residential it's 45 miles per hour these people don't even slow down at 45 they're driving like they're on the freeway we have had so many animals that have already been hit and killed are our children going to be next please don't pass this thank you thank you lisa gross following that would be gloria williams hi my name is lisa goss and i have lived on also for well 16 years karen and i live together i moved here to get out of the traffic to enjoy rural area to raise my grandkids in an area that's peace and quiet we've got horses running up and down the street it's so nice it's so bliss and now we've got all these truckers coming in 12 30 at night three different nights they're barreling up and down our streets at 12 30 at night what are they doing i don't know maybe you do we have kids we have school buses coming we have kids 15 to 20 kids they're small anywhere from kindergarten to eighth grade summer high school and how you want to put this big freeway and it might as well be a freeway anyway i'm really opposed to this i really want to keep our neighborhoods safe and quiet so that we can continue the life that we've we moved there for i appreciate your time thank you thank you lori williamson and then mike where will be after her you'll be ready to go i'm gloria williamson i live on elsap and i live in the show park but i was a little confused i realized there was two points for this for annexing 20 and then 21 for hopewell so i know if she should give this to y'all now or waiting to talk on 21. cause i only put 20 on the card i didn't realize that there was two of them a bunch of us just put 20. we didn't do 20 and 21. correct okay you're using your two minutes right now okay so we do not want the annexing we do not want the development because the safety of our community the hope rail development and the annexing would be negative for a residential community there are numerous warehouses already going on both sides of 303 and there's obviously going to be a lot going on on both sides of the northern parkway if this development is approved or annexed it's going to be deaf venture to our neighborhood like we mentioned mentioned and want to emphasize residents including children ride their horses and bikes up and down the residential streets children get on and off the buses on residential streets there are some people on our street that are limited mobility and they drive their golf and golf carts up and down our street and like we mentioned there are concrete trucks that fly up and down on resident street i have numerous videos of them that keep us up all night long it has been stayed in prior meetings at the trucks um that's definitely to my other thing i want to talk about so we're pleading to have the safety of our neighborhood our lives and our lifestyle and the values of our home please do not approve and next thing and they also have been talked about wanting elsif which also be which you understand if they don't annex this and do this development then there's no reason to widen lcep so and i guess 21 i'll give this to you when we do 21. i i went ahead and wrote your number on 21. okay okay thank you mr where you're up janet where are you following him hello my name is michael ware i live on elsa road in litchfield park i i don't want uh um the trucks to come up and down the street every every day because uh kids riding the horses and and uh going to school they would be you know you know killed um and i i don't don't want the annexation okay thank you okay janelle where you're up uh ernest bustamante you'd be following good evening um same thing i don't want to repeat what everybody else is saying which is very concerned with especially access roads on come a little closer to the microphone there you go having access points on elsa road and i don't know if that's the next point but that's our major concern having trucks going up and down the street talking about widening the street i don't know how we don't have sidewalks or anything the street's narrow horses i don't know all the fields everything is being built with development so we don't even have filled horses anymore i feel like it's destroying our neighborhood me and my husband also bought 11 years ago and now it feels like everybody's being pushed out we have three three or four houses on our street already up for sale so thank you thank you lorena cruz uh you're following ernestina bustamante good afternoon my name is and i live on ledgeville pretty much my concerns are everybody's i have kids from kindergarten to high school the buses go by it's also bro i also live on allsup already having warehouses built on 303 we get the traffic of concrete trucks in the middle of the night all the time and it is that they go fast i know we have a speed limit 45 but there's kids waiting for buses at 7 8 so that's concerning the streets are not big enough to have all those trucks down there it's a one-way lane for each way they're going down the city is not getting there to build the streets they just fixed the streets where the warehouses and the rest of it are going down glendale it's the the truck traffic has going up because of all the other warehouses that's our community and there with this one is getting inside of it so we're really concerned for the safety of the people that live there thank you thank you lorena cruz following her janet sellers wallock i hope that's pronounced right so small hi um i'm lorena cruz i live on elsa pro um but the thing um i on the construction that they're doing and elsa the reason being is because i have to take my son to the bus as every day waiting for it and i have to go through that whole road to go to work as well which it takes me time to go to work because of the construction that's going on right now on rims and elsa um it's really concerning because my child has to walk from from outside all the way to glendale and with the construction going on i'm going to be worried about my children i'm especially walking that way um but as well i want to talk about the um ordinance about 21 as well because i didn't know it was that but that's pretty much it it's the same thing that what everybody's been talking um but yeah i really oppose about that okay thank you lisa i i cannot make out your last name live on northern you'll be following janet wallach hello council members i'm from litchfield park i've lived there my entire life state your name please janet wallach thank you janet ziller's wallet my dad was a war veteran i'm sure you're all familiar with pw litchfield he back in the early 40s gave young men opportunities to farm 80 acres and this was a great opportunity you had to be um someone had to help you out to get in this program so this was my dad um he had the 80 acre plot of land and where you're talking about zoning is boxing us in my sisters and i are still original there's no one else left there our original owners of this property it has always been family oriented this is what mr litchfield wanted families community support all of our kids went to school together mr litchfield actually changed the boundaries for the school lynchville school district so all of our kids could go together this is really detrimental to our neighborhood the buildings it just wipes out our whole family-oriented neighborhood and so i really hope you oppose this thank you thank you following lisa is joanna otran lisa state your name for the record please my name is wallick thank you good evening okay i'm a little nervous i don't speak well i'm nervous too it's all good okay so that was actually my mother and i lived there on that property as well um it's just really hard to think that that's where i've been since i was five years old i'm 53 now and i've raised my kids there as well and just to think of the traffic that's going to come in and what it's going to do it's not even going to be the same neighborhood um buildings going up behind us that's just i mean we're back we're getting boxed in from every direction the traffic amount would just that's awful um so i'm definitely opposed to this um but um i'm sorry um like i'm just kind of reiterating what other people are saying that there were five bus stops along also for three different schools there's a hundred homes in this area that will be greatly impacted will dramatically impact quality of life the noise the traffic 24 7. it's going to be 24 7. there's not a time line on this um the royal arrow will no longer be able to be enjoyed by the horse riding the bike riding me taking walks with my kids or just being in our homes these homes were there first there were joined they were zoned rural or farming not commercial so thank you i oppose it thank you following joanna is kathy mezza if you'd be ready i'd appreciate it good evening my name is joanna voltron and i live in litchfield park i oppose of all this change that's going on in our neighborhood i've been there for 33 years the reason why we would live there so we could have a nice safe place to raise our family now i am helping raising my grandson i wish i could leave this land to my grandson now but with all these changes that are going on there it's not going to be the same there are more children on this street than there has ever been they have going to school they have their horses that's all been said already um i have already seen twice two semi trucks that were supposed to stop at a stop sign and did not stop and just made a left hand churn what is going to happen when our kids are out there at the bus stop and these guys do not follow the rules there's so much traffic i have heard trucks going up and down my street at one and two o'clock in the morning we have families that have babies we have elderly people that are not in good health please do not let this happen leave our neighborhood and our community to be our community thank you very much thank you cathy meza good afternoon i'm cathy misa i live on alice hop in literal park my home is right on the corner of myrtle and also for the access points and the construction of the new warehouse this is going to be made i have three children one that's eight years old has to be up by six am to be at the bus stop by 6 50. there's truck drivers construction workers driving down the road honking and braking at one or two o'clock in the morning that's not safe and healthy for children to avoid traffic and stay away from all the semi noises we oppose obviously to the construction of the warehouses we don't need more constructions there's already constructions down the road on nelson i live right on the corner right on the street of elsa there's construction is already going down the street where my parents live they're keeping them up as well there's my nieces and nephews tons of children riding waiting for their buses to get onto the bus on elsa we don't need none of that there's a reason why people move to the far side of natural park ranch-like area to avoid the commotion of city like we don't want that we want something peaceful where people could walk around jog stroll along with families enjoy nice picnic out without having the city like commotion going on and i'm also against the proposition of 21 which talks about the construction of the homes so i'm opposed this please respect our residential street thank you so much okay that's all the cards that i have for item number 20. uh any council have any questions just comment you have a question uh mayor i believe um the applicant is here he might be able to clarify for me because i believe there were some um the the site plan does mitigate some of the traffic on elsa broad so if he would like to clarify that good evening mayor members of the the council shane allman for the record with tiffany bosco 2525 east camelback road in phoenix arizona um yes mayor council member tom chaff i do have a presentation as part of the the p80 rezoning which i address some of these issues but in short there have been a number of stipulations that we have added to the case seven uh having to do with also specifically as you know mcdot currently has jurisdiction and will have jurisdiction for the future of awesome road so there's been a number of discussions that we've had with mcdot they reviewed the plan they reviewed the traffic the studies that we have done and we they asked us to provide conditions which restrict traffic from going south down onto allsep so as part of the site plan there will be further discussions review and approval by mcdot in in terms of the design of that to make sure that traffic goes to the 250 300 feet north from our northern property line up to northern avenue thank you okay any other council questions just to comment once okay yeah hold your comments until you vote please yeah okay uh no other discussion okay we'll conduct a roll call what starting with councilmember o'donnell how do you vote hi councilmember clark now is it appropriate for me perfect time thank you so much i represent this district and this area and i am not without sympathy for the people who got up and spoke and said please no and i think joanna i'm sorry i didn't get your last name summed it up best when she said that you don't want any changes to your neighborhood and and i accept that but there's one problem the state built loop 303 now i want you to imagine did you think that all the land along 303 would stay agricultural not going to happen that land has become valuable folks you knew that the farmers were going to sell out it was the time for them to do so when they would get the most profitability that they could for that land and that's what they did they sold their land to development now when you say development what kind of development are we talking about three basic different kinds you can have houses or apartments you can have commercial like a shopping center or you can have industrial manufacturing the big buildings you see coming in all of those generate traffic different levels but they all generate traffic all of them are going to mess up the roads that are adjacent to the development that's also inevitable now it's my understanding i don't know how quickly it will happen but the county is retaining responsibility for alsup and has plans to widen it to three lanes one lane in each direction and a turn lane they will also put in curb gutter and sidewalk that's a county road it's not a city road when i hear about all these children and the safety of attaining a bus stop getting to the bus stop or getting back from the bus stop i would think it would be far safer if they were on a sidewalk than on the edge of a one-lane we're a two-lane road i want to speak to change because i do understand nobody likes change i didn't like change when it happened either the house i moved into is a mile away from the stadium i live on a one acre irrigated lot there are 30 houses on our street all on an acre 15 on the north side 15 on the south side none of us were happy to see the development you know what westgate's like with the stadium and the arena we've had to do things like adjust our driving habits when they play football games because of the intense traffic we've learned to accommodate we've learned that even though we are in a sea of development our street has remained a quiet oasis we have no curb gutter sidewalk or street lights we're all on septic tank that's almost an anachronism in the city of glendale but we've been able to maintain our lifestyle being a mile away from one of the most intense developments in the city of glendale it's not easy to accommodate change it's been painful for us at times but we've done it and i think you all can do it too you still have the luxury of having your large lots and your streets your quiet streets you still are an intact community you can remain so yes there will be intensity around you but you will be an oasis within that intensity if our street can do it you can do it too so i do understand i do sympathize but i want you to understand that development was coming in some form or another it couldn't be ignored and with that i vote yes announcement milner how do you vote uh i don't remember thomas how do you vote aye councilmember turner how do you vote thank you mayor i'd like to explain my vote go ahead the question on the table before us at this very moment is whether or not we annex or don't annex in this parcel of land if we don't annex it in it remains in the county and it will be developed i would predict but under the county standards if we annex it in it gets developed under the city of glendale standards which i believe are generally more strict and more beneficial to the neighbors and while this is not the zoning portion of the question tonight i am impressed that there are 17 i heard it stipulations on the proposed zoning that'll be coming up next and that's an extraordinary number of stipulations and i absolutely respect the residents that have come here tonight and to speak to us and and spoke to our planning commission and and whether or not the vote is your direction tonight know that you have had an impact on the development of this project and then those 17 stipulations but i think that it's better off to be developed in the city of glendale than in the county for all concerned and therefore i vote i vice mayor how do you vote hi okay and i'm just going to make a really brief statement uh and i think all of you are aware of this whether you actually considered it or not right now the fastest growing county in the united states not just this year but for the last i believe four years is maricopa county and the epicenter of that growth is basically from westgate going your way there's no way that we're going to stop this growth until the property values plummet it's going to continue to keep growing the lady that had spoke about her father actually farming 80 acres a lot of those folks sold out they seen an opportunity to get out they sold their property so it i understand that it's painful i moved here in 1966 and i tell this story to people because i think all of you can associate with this uh when i was uh a kid in 1968 or 69 i used to ride my bicycle with my shotgun on the handlebars to go dove hunting okay now i know that sounds impossible today but that was at 51st avenue in osborne in phoenix to me it doesn't seem like that long ago but things have changed and have really grown uh ridiculous amount i'm love i'm loving the fact mandel is growing i'm hating the fact that the valley is growing it is what it is until we quit having good weather until people want to stop moving here until california quits raising their taxes people are going to keep moving here and they keep moving here we're going to be facing this more and more and more so i i i sympathize with the growth that you're experiencing i've been through it already myself i know mr hugh was born here i know ms thomachoff's born here a lot of people have gone through this it's it's not comfortable but it's just the way it is in a growing society it could i guess we could live in michigan where people are trying to move away and not move too um so i know that doesn't help you in what's happening but it's just a fact fastest growing county in the united states four years running and and you folks are in the epicenter you chose a wonderful place where everybody else wants to go also uh with that i vote i it is a unanimous vote uh motion does carry uh ms barr can you move uh or item 21 please ordinance number oh 21-69 an ordinance of the council the city of glendale maricopa county arizona rezoning property located on the southwest corner of northern avenue and reems road from rr45 to pad for a project known as hopewell amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance mayor members of the council here to provide staff report is tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you again mr phelps mayor council this is the entitlement to the property that was just approved for annexation and to the city limits the name of the project is hopewell development pad the site is approximately 104 acres and the applicant is requesting to rezone the property from rural residential to pad of planned area development to allow for a non-residential mixed use development the general planned land use designation is luke compatible land use area area map depicts surrounding developments with county residential to the north west and south of the subject site the proposed pad is for industrial and commercial land uses the applicant is not proposing any residential land uses within the pad the applicant is proposing a maximum building height of 85 feet but is still subject to faa approval the setbacks within the pad proposal is appropriate for the area as the applicant is proposing a minimum of 60 feet from residential uses here is the conceptual site plan the applicant is proposing to develop the site in approximately two phases the site plan depicts full access along northern avenue that would be two access points five to six access points points along rings road to the east three full access points along our sub avenue to the west the center access point would be for vehicular traffic cars of employees and then to the now to the north and to the south would be for the semi trucks okay as you can see most of the buildings are adjacent to rings road with one building which is adjacent to austin avenue and on the site plan the applicant is proposing setbacks from the residents the existing residents instead of 60 feet they are proposing approximately 200 feet okay the applicant has submit has not submitted a design review application at this time once an application is submitted the applicant will continue to work with the city staff as well as the county to finalize the site plan [Applause] staff and the applicant have received several comments expressing concerns and opposition with the traffic volume semi trucks and the safety along also avenue the request was presented before planning commission on september the second in which the planning commission asked for a continuation for staff to present additional information the item was represented before planning commission on october the 7th in which the planning commission voted three to three which means the item was forwarded to city council with the recommendation of the now from planning commission staff recommendation is for city council to approve the rezoning application subject to the stipulations contained in the staff report the basis for staff still recommending the approval is based on the application being in compliance with the general plan for loot compatible land uses the application meeting the requirements for a pad zoning the application is compatible to other approved pads and developments in the city boundary area for the new frontier corridor the conceptual site plan depicts significant concessions to alleviate a level of concerns expressed by the neighboring county residents and with that marion council that concludes the presentation the applicant is present to do a presentation if the council supplier as well as the applicant and i am available to answer any questions you may have thank you questions for tablet seeing none public caring is now open on item 21. ordinance number 021-69 an ordinance of the council of the city of glendale maricopa county uh arizona rezoning property located on the southwest corner of northern avenue and reams road from rr-40 to the p-a-d for project known as hopewell amending the zoning map providing an effective date and directing city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance any questions from the council hearing none i do have two speaker cards from speakers that we've heard from again mr farmer yes would you like to speak again again two minutes sir thank you um as you can see um we have opposed the annexation but that is what it is and i can't control that and i appreciate the comments uh it is about growth we need growth however um if there was an 85 foot building okay proposed directly in your from your backyard because my property is on the north corner of this proposed site plan okay along with my aunts my uncles and my mother if you had the choice to vote against that and i think i know what your your vote would be you wouldn't want that directly behind your home um and the reason why i say that is because this affects us directly like construction at two o'clock in the morning when you hear ram sets into concrete sounds like gunfire it's absolutely ridiculous that it was over on reems road that affected us directly there now we're going to put it directly behind our homes and right next to long also next to these residents and then also the sites property which is just directly south we're putting a warehouse in between two residential homes that's completely ridiculous and i say ridiculous because it is um i just cannot emphasize of how bad this is for our neighborhood and i am all about growth and i understand that change is needed but this change it's not safe it really isn't and with that i respect please vote no on this thank you for your time thank you sir lori williamson did you all get the pictures i handed to them to give to you all to look at is the pictures in there too of them for them okay yeah go ahead and speak you're you're using your time up okay um right now this is so upsetting i came in sleep at night my head just spins because of the sadness of even having this development or even having the access points on elsa and council member clark you mentioned the 303 yeah the 303s to the east of us we're to the west of it but we're not right at the 303. we're talking about elsa road not the 303 and one of the pictures you'll see i put in red all the driveways and then the driveways right here from the south side of the development up those are our driveways and so y'all have already two access points on northern five to six access points on reams and there's a traffic light at reims there's no reason to have trucks coming in and out on elsa onto our street yeah you said they're not going to go north well what about the house is going to affect it i mean they're not going to go south without the houses that's going to affect when they go north and they're turning in and out then it's going to do a congestion right there at elsef and where the people live right against northern they're going to hear it and we're going to have to deal with it with i have the red lines like i said showing and the other picture i also did showing the other home so it's going to be affected by it so i don't i'm asking to please not do the development and another num two priority is no access points on to elsa at all there's no necessary it's going to cause two turns they have to turn in and out of the development on the elsa and then they have to do a second turn in and off of alsup you have the two of them on northern and another one on the planning department now meeting had mentioned want you all just build your own road so you can come in and out off the northern out of your own complex instead of using elsa and leave the house up alone leave it to the residential street that's in and put it a eight foot plus wall there and also wanted to confirm if the 85 feet was approved because i've been talking to luke air force base and they informed me that they said they had no problem with the development but never said anything about approving the 85 feet for the warehouses right now and the ffa does it and i've been calling around told to call salt lake city i've been calling washington i even called down here in phoenix to me i've been told it's never been developed wrap it up your time is up if you'd rather okay but do you all see how we do not want the access points on elsa for our homes it's right in my driveway can y'all please not have any access points on elsa thank you okay public hearing is now closed can i get a motion on item 21 ordinance 021-69 yes mayor i move we pass an adopt ordinance number 021-69 second okay i have more from council member clark second council member tom shop to approve the recommended action is there any discussion on this motion hearing none i'll call about council member l how do you vote just went up clear question mayor if i may is um is the development being proposed 85 feet tall or is that just the the limits the limitation you have to build on that property mayor councilmember aldama currently that's just that's a number that we we have in there at this time in discussions with hopewell typically the buildings are 65 or so feet we are going through an faa process and we've been in preliminary discussions with them part of the site plan they have to approve whatever height comes forward with but currently in the p80 it's set at 85 feet yeah thank you it's money to be clear and before you leave faa because luke air force base is class d and they're they're concerned about radar and things like that mayor that is correct okay all right thank you if i may continue uh thank you for the clarification and i always want to just comment back when there's a uh a comment made that i feel is not necessarily directed to me but i can relate to it um all my life i've lived in the heaviest industrial area in all glendale it's right here in the ocotillo district so i sympathize with you but it's not all that bad um i've i've come i've come to accept it and realize that at one time the district was very progressive just like yours but i just wanted to answer directly that i do live next to buildings next to billboards next to wrecking yards next next to recycling yards and so um the most the heaviest industrial light industrial districts right here in glendale that's right liv thank you and i vote council member clark how do you vote hi councilmember melner how do you vote aye councilmember thomas how do you vote hi councilmember turner how do you vote thank you mayor i'd like to explain my vote good um um probably just three things to hit on one is that i do understand from the residents that you have issues that are related to enforcement of existing laws and which you need to put more pressure on to the county and on to the sheriff's office to enforce for you some of the things you've described are enforcement issues and the proper place for the pressure is there it was mentioned that there was a three to three vote on the planning commission regarding this and as i re my understanding is the motion in the planning commission was to approve and it was a tie with one member absent and therefore it failed had the motion been to deny it probably would have been a tie and would have failed as well so i often almost i often really do defer to the planning commission on items like this i always take their advice and recommendation seriously but at this point what we really have is a tie from them which um though it was described as as recommending no it actually it's like no recommendation at all but they did add stipulations and and there are there's a multitude of stipulations on this which shows that there has been public input and planning commission input and that's extremely important and then the final point is that i want to raise is that we don't have even though this is a rezoning we don't have the plan for the property in front of us a site plan but that will be part of the process the final plat will have to go before the planning commission and it will also have to come to a council for a vote so those are additional opportunities for the public to have input and to make sure that the stipulations are adhered to and and to raise any other issues that come up once you actually see the site plan for it people have a right to develop their property this really is no surprise i don't think to anybody those who have been there a long time have seen this coming those that have moved in more recently surely saw the 303 in place and and the development that would be coming along with it um i sympathize with you but i also understand that it's really in the best interest of the entire community that we develop this area to its highest and best use which under the conditions of the luke air force base noise contours is this type of a use residential wouldn't even be allowed in there at this point to the best of my knowledge so with that i vote aye vice mayor how do you vote all right and then my final comment is i think a number was put out 17 stipulations is that correct uh i don't know if you folks realize that's unheard of since i've been there nearly nine years i think i remember i think i remember one other time where i think there were seven so your voice has been heard not to the point that you want it heard but 17 stipulations is again i don't remember that ever happening anywhere near that so it's pretty amazing the beauty of this is this council now will make sure all those stipulations do happen so you at least have that where if you were a county you wouldn't had any of that and you still didn't advert the same thing that's happening with the county so i know it's hard for you to look at this as a win because it's not what you were looking for you were looking to stop it completely but in effect you have a small win it's not a big win but it's a small win those stipulations by the city and exodus this council will make sure that all those stipulations do happen i i can't take questions right now uh that that part of the of the public is is closed ma'am so with that i do vote i that motion does carry now moving on to item 22. mr mayor point of privilege go ahead sir yeah i just want to mention uh one thing i know that the issue of sound and construction was brought up which i think is a is an important issue the one what i want to be clear is that the county's noise ordinances is is much different than an urban city and we have very strict sound ordinances and we will make sure that the construction is limited our our current ordinance says they can only do construction work between 7 am to 6 pm there's also restrictions on street barricading when they're when they're doing work on site so just to you know to the neighbors that are being impacted by this please feel free to reach out to the city manager's office if there's construction or noise that are happening beyond those times because we do we do have a noise ordinance in place of which we do enforce um so thank you for that privilege mr man and that's that's once it becomes effective once it gets annexed and the construction starts then our ordinance will take place and they'll be restricted to our sound ordinance right okay ms barrow would you introduce item 22. ordinance number oh 21-70 an ordinance of the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona extending and increasing the corporate limits of the city of glendale maricopa county state of arizona pursuant to the provisions of title 9 chapter 4 section 9-471 arizona revised statutes and its amendments by annexing certain territory located at the southeast corner of northern avenue in cotton lane in the city of glendale consisting of approximately 36 acres to be known as annexation area number 227 amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance mayor members of the council here to provide staff report is interim planning manager tabitha perry thank you mr phelps mayor and council this is an annexation request for adoption this evening for a project that has been floating around as sonoma cotton mixed-use development but is formerly known as northern cotton mix use development the subject site is approximately 36 acres and is located at the southeast corner of northern avenue in cotton lane the subject site is currently in the county with zoning classification for industrial and commercial the city's like zoning will also be commercial and industrial next on the agenda is the proposed rezoning application to rezone the site to pad planned area development to allow for a mixed use development consisting of commercial industrial and residential land uses here's the annexation map to give context what is not depicted on the map is the city's 10-foot strip annexation that is located just north of the subject site adjacent to northern avenue so the item was presented before city council at a workshop on september the 14th in which council provided a consensus to proceed forward on october the 12th the blank petition was presented for any public comments in which there were none speakers on opposition or for the annexation and staff is recommending council approve the annexation request and in doing so the action will be effective in 30 days with that mary council i'll be happy to answer any questions any questions seeing none thank you can i get a motion yes mayor i move that we pass and adopt ordinance number 021-7 second okay emotional councilmember clark second council member thomas further recommended action any discussion on the motion hearing none we have any speaker cards no sir good i'm i mean okay uh roll call vote councilmember o'donnell how do you vote aye councilmember clark how do you vote aye councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember thomas hi councilmember turner how do you vote hi councilmember vice mayor how do you vote hi chair of outside motion carries miss barrow regeneration item 23. ordinance number oh 21-71 an ordinance of the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona rezoning 36 acres located at the southeast corner of northern avenue and cotton lane from m1 light industrial and c2 general commercial to pad planned area development for a development plan entitled cotton northern mixed use planned area development amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance mayor members council once again tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you mr phelps once again um mary council this is a reasoning application to rezone a subject property to pad plan area development the subject site is 30 acres in size and the request is to rezone it from the light industrial and the general commercial to the pad plan area development to allow for a mixed use development consisting of commercial industrial and residential land uses assembly map just to give context to the subject site in comparison to city hall the general plan land use designation is for regional mixed use the regional mix use allows for a variety of land uses which includes the commercial industrial and residential land uses here's a zoning map to give context to the site here is an area map that shows that to the west of cotton lane is residential development here is a conceptual site plan that shows the proposal for 144 units for multi-family on approximately 14 acres here is the conceptual site plan for the portion that is approximately 22 acres facing off from northern avenue the smaller boxes or buildings is projected for the commercial where the larger buildings are anticipated for the industrial elevations to provide some context to what the 144 units would look like here's an elevation for the industrial development um i think i would like to add just a couple more things when staff evaluated the application we took in consideration a couple of things we're looking at for the site that is somewhat challenging in which it needed some level of flexibility one of the things is is that the subject site has limitations from the freeway there's no northbound access and no southbound access exists on the loop 303 and add to that a provides limit limited access drives on northern avenue then there's the site configuration constraints there's limited frontage on cotton lane the site overall is irregularly shaped development or irregular shape property and then there's an easement that is going north and south at a hundred feet which is classified as a electrical easement and then like so there is a 15 foot wide utility in access event from cotton lane to the end of the property heading east with those things being taken into consideration the staff's recommendation to planning commission is to approve the rezoning application as presented with appropriate stipulations the item was heard before a planning commission on october october the 7th there were no one present in opposition or support for the application and planning commission gave a recommendation for approval and with that mayor i'll be happy to answer any questions like so the applicant is present to do a presentation or answer questions as well any questions from the council mayor good thank you miss perry do we have any idea of what the proposed use might be for the parcel that's actually the southeast corner of the northern cotton intersection it's not part of this but it could be impacted by this so what do we think that might develop as okay mayor councilmember turner can you give me those directions again please or what are you looking at your location um just to the north and west of the hat the hatched marks up there the corner to the north of northern avenue no just to the north of the hatchery oh to the northwest corner that is in the that right there belongs to the church um so we don't have a project in store or an annexation request for that particular site mayor if i may they haven't come in for uh for any pre-annexation or pre-development uh conversations or anything mayor councilmember turner to my knowledge no they have not thank you okay any other questions okay public karen is now open on item 23 ordinance number zero two one dash seven one an ordinance of the council city of glendale maricopa county arizona rezoning 36 acres located at the southeast corner of northern avenue in cotton lane from m1 light industrial and c2 general commercial to planned area development for a development plan entitled cotton northern mixed use planned area development say that all real fast three times amending the zoning map providing for an effective date and directing the city clerk to record a certificate cop certified copy of ordinance any questions from the council hearing none speaker cards no sir wonderful is there any anyone that would like to speak on this item aren't filled necessity to speak perfect public hearing is now closed can i get a motion on item 23 or not 0-2-1-7-1 yes mayor i move we pass and adopt ordinance number 021-71 second okay councilmember clark a second member o'donnell to approve the recommended action any discussion hearing none council members any questions move on to a roll call councilmember oldham how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote yes mayor i'm going to explain my vote go ahead i'm going to support this project because the case was made it's better that it be developed within the city of glendale than within the county but i will say this about the apartments council developed a policy and gave direction that this area would discourage residential and for the most part we have discouraged residential except where there have been previous approvals before this council crafted that policy i don't like the residential coming in this site i think it sends the wrong message to developers and i hope that they would take heed that we're not seeking residential development as a companion piece to industrial manufacturing or commercial i also feel that it's smoke and mirrors when you take a 36 acre site with only a portion of it having 144 units and then using the entire acreage of the site to determine the dwelling units per acre so as to meet luke's stipulation of four dwelling units to the acre yeah there are four dwelling units to the acre over the entire 36 acres but only a portion of that site is actually being used for residential so it's a mixed bag i'm going to support it i'm going to vote eye but i'm not a happy camper on this one thank you mayor i the unhappy camper high council member milner aye councilmember tom trump aye councilmember turner aye vice mayor all right chair of outside motion carries miss power regime introduce item 24 please organics loop 303 annexation application an229 public hearing located at the southwest corner of bethany home road and ceraval avenue mayor members council here is tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you mr phelps mayor in council this is the blank petition for organics loop 303 the subject site is located at the southwest corner of bethany home road and cerroville avenue and the site is approximately 75 acres in size the subject property is currently in the county with zoning classification of ru 43 and the like zoning for the subject site if annex into the city would be rr-45 both of these classifications would allow for a single-family residence the applicant is proposing to rezone the site upon annexing to the city to a plan area development to allow for an industrial center his annexation map to give context to the subject site in comparison to other city other city properties within our jurisdiction the item was presented before city council workshop on september the 28th in which council gave consensus to proceed forward this is the blank petition for anyone who wants to speak on the annexation request and then the item will be followed by a future city council public hearing on the adoption of the annexation with that marion council i'll be happy to answer any questions hearing nothing public hearing is now open on item 24 organics loop 303 annexation application an-229 public hearings located at the southwest corner of bethany home road in cereville questions hearing none speaker cards yes sir none all the karen is now close miss power would you introduce item 25 parkway 303 west annexation an231 application public hearing located at the southeast corner of peoria avenue and cotton lane mayor members of the council here to provide staff report tabitha perry interim planning manager thank you again mr phelps mayor council this is a blank petition for a annexation proposal for a project entitled parkway 303 west the subject property is located at the southeast corner of peoria avenue in cotton lane the subject site is approximately 263 acres the subject site is in the county jurisdiction with ru-43 sony classification upon annexation the light zoning would be rr45 which also would allow for a residential zoning the applicant is also proposing to rezone the property to pad to allow for commercial and industrial mixed use development the annexation map is depicted to show the subject site in comparison to other properties within the city's limit the project was presented to city council at a workshop on september the 28th in which council gave a consensus to proceed forward with the application for annexation the next step in the process would be for the item to be heard before council for adoption at a future scheduled public hearing with that mayor council i'd be happy to answer any questions questions from the council okay i do have a schedule for public hearing right now okay i misunderstood you okay public hearing is now open on item 25 parkway throughout three west annexation a n-231 application public carrying located south east corner peoria avenue and cotton lane any questions from our council hearing none speaker cards no sir okay public karen is now closed moving on to ordinances miss bauer item 26 if you would please ordinance number o 21-72 an ordinance to the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona amending glendale city code chapter 25 nuisances article 6 damaged buildings by adding section 25 25-77 slum property designation mayor members of the council here to provide staff report this evening is deputy city manager rick st john evening mayor and council this is a request for council to adopt an ordinance amending glendale city code chapter 25 title nuisances specifically art article 4 under damaged buildings by adding section 25-77 as a slum property designation this was workshopped on august 10th with full council approval to move this forward essentially this ordinance adds the ability to designate rental properties as a slum property file assessments and liens establish a hearing uh for appeals and um a hearing officer at times for um putting the property into receivership through the supreme court of the state of arizona and with that i'm happy to answer any questions you may have questions from mr st john can i get a motion on item 26 ordinance number 021-72 mayor go ahead motion to approve item number 26 ordinance number zero two one dash seven two second okay motion council member o'donnell a second from the vice mayor to approve the recommended action council members do you have any questions or discussion on this motion hearing none any speaker cards on this item no sir thank you okay we're all call vote council member eldama how do you vote explain my vote go ahead thank you mayor um simple simply i just want to let those bad actors out there who own properties you're on notice and uh hopefully we get this passed today and you'll come to science i vote thank you councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember tom schoff how do you vote hi okay let's go back to councilmember milner use your microphone how do you vote hi thank you councilmember turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote i i was trying to give council member clark time to get back in here but she's not going to make it councilmember clark is absent at the moment chair votes either motion does carry ms barrow would you introduce item 27 ordinance 021-73 ordinance number oh 21-73 in order to the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona amending glendale city code by adding chapter 30 article 4 pavement preservation ordinance mayor members of the council who provide staff reports from engineering department is don besser thank you mr phelps mayor council members i'm pleased to be here tonight to have an ordinance in your packet for consideration this was workshop twice on april 13th and then again on september 28th this is an amendment to the code if approved that would allow us to adopt a formal policy codify rules around the cutting of streets and the excavation in our public streets as council knows the purpose of this ordinance is to preserve the assets that this council has put into place in the form of our street reconstruction our arterial reconstruction program our payment manager excuse me our payment management program and to protect those tens of millions of dollars of investments that you've been putting into the system over the last several years it's to extend the life by reducing unnecessary cutting and excavating into our city roadways thereby as i said extended life but also reducing the ongoing operational maintenance costs as councils aware we've had a number of engagements with our private utility providers that are the largest users of our right-of-way and we have incorporated the feedback that we received from them in the way that we described to you in our previous workshops as well at december 28th workshop you asked questions gave us additional direction all of that is incorporated whatever direction you gave us is incorporated in the ordinance as it sits that concludes my presentation thank you can i get a motion for item 27 ordinance 021-73 there but i move we pass and adopt ordinance 021-73 and wave reading beyond the title second motion councilmember turner second council member clark to approve the recommended action we have any questions or discussion on the motion hearing none speaker cards no sir thank you roll call vote council member l doma how do you vote comment for mayor go ahead uh mr bessler i think i've said this to you before when this came up the first time in workshop mr bessler mr bessler yeah stand right there stop right there you're fine right there go ahead i think i mentioned this to you when you brought this to workshop this is just an outstanding item your you and your team developed and brought to us i know you reached out to other cities but this this is a really really good thing i'm really proud of you guys and i commend you for your leadership and the rest of your team really good stuff you hit out of the ballpark um i vote i okay you can go councilmember clerk who knows just make a comment if i could go ahead uh thank you to you and your team you don't have to do the hokey pokey you can sit down thank you to you and your team uh our residents are investing tens of millions of dollars in our pavement um over the last several years and are going to continue doing that moving forward so i think this goes a long way in protecting that investment on behalf of our residents and with that i vote i thank you councilmember turner explain my vote good these pavement cuts shorten the life of the pavement sometimes by as much as 10 years on what should be a 30-year investment and that amounts to millions of dollars for every mile segment that doesn't last as long as it should it's uh this is important and with that i vote eye thank you vice mayor how do you vote all right okay i'm going to explain my vote i just wanted you to hear a compliment i i know it seems like there's never enough compliments but when someone's making today i just want to make sure you heard it all right good job my body motion carries unanimous miss barbara would you introduce item 28. ordinance number oh 21-74 in order to the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona authorizing the execution of easements warranty deeds and maps of dedication at various locations throughout the city and directing the city clerk to record a certified copy of the ordinance the mayor members of the council here to provide staff report this evening is glendale principal engineer jamie chapin thank you mr phelps good evening mayor and council members this is a request for council to adopt an ordinance accepting maps of dedication deeds and easements throughout the city these eight items are in support of both private development and city projects staff is recommending acceptance of these land rights so that the city may maintain and operate its infrastructure thank you and i'd be happy to answer any questions on any of the items okay questions hearing none can i get a motion for item 28 ordinance 021-74 mayor go ahead i move that we adopt and approve ordinance 21-74 second i have a motion council member milner second councilmember tom trump to prove the recommended action any questions discussions on this motion hearing none have any speaker cards no sir roll call vote council member l doma how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote aye council member milner how do you vote hi house member tom trump how do you vote aye council member turner how do you vote hi vice mayor how do you vote all right chair of outside motion carries unanimous moving on to resolutions item number 29 ms power number r21-110 resolution of the council of the city of glendale maricopa county arizona establishing water and sewer user rates pursuant to glendale city code and setting forth effective dates mayor members of the council here provide staff report this evening is vicki rios assistant city manager she'll be joined by craig johnson our director of water services mayor members of the council this is a request for the city council to to first conduct a public hearing in accordance with ars 9-5101 regarding proposed increases to the city of glendale water and sewer rates after the public hearing this is a request for counsel to wave reading beyond the title and request or excuse me and adopt a resolution which if approved will establish the new water rates effective january 1st and then each january thereafter through january 1 2026. the rate increase would be 4.3 percent for water and 3 for sewer these rates have previously been discussed with council in workshop on june 8th and again on august 10th and with that i'll answer any questions and as mr phelps said mr johnson is also here to answer any questions okay did you need to make a presentation no sir you're just here today questions yes sir okay so we're going to go ahead and move this item and then we'll take questions from here can i get a motion to approve item 29 yes mayor i'm going to make a motion but i'm going to be offering an amendment to the motion so i will move adoption of uh resolution r21-110 but i will be offering an amendment okay so if you're gonna offer your memo i need to know what the amendment is okay i'm going to be uh asking to amend this that we adopt the first two rate increases of january 22 and january 23. we've essentially established a precedent of increasing rates or adjusting rates and two-year increments in the past um and given the current situation with the colorado river we're in a tier one shortage there's going to be adjustments um to the amount of water that's going to be able to be delivered by cap and i feel like it's prudent to adjust our rates for the first two years and a reassess in two years we can uh we have a plan that if if the rates still work for where we are in two years we can continue to adopt the rates that are in this plan but i feel like it would be prudent to just go with the first two years um i mean already pinel county is going to be receiving less water the cost to deliver that water is not going to go down um their operating costs are going to remain the same but they're going to be selling less water so i feel there will probably be some adjustment to what our water is costing us so that's my amendment is to adopt the first two years of this rate plan okay point of order but there's actually a motion on the floor and it's the emotion it's the motion to approve as presented and so mayor you need to look for a second and if it fails to have a second then we would need another motion but the pro the challenge we have right now and our rules of procedures there is a pending motion on the floor without a second okay i i'm going to disagree with you because she was making that amendment during that motion can i withdraw the motion and remake the motion mayor councilmember if if if the individual if the member who made the motion wants to withdraw the motion and make a different motion with that incorporates what would have otherwise been the amendment then yes that can we can move forward misunderstood my instructions so i mayor if i would like to withdraw that motion okay to adopt resolution r21-110 and may i restate the motion with the amendment well i thought that's what you were actually doing that's what i was trying to do but i must have misunderstood my instructions yeah i again i thought that's exactly what you were doing point of order mayor correct me if i'm wrong but it would be appropriate also to take a second to the main motion and then there's a motion to amendment and a second to amendment and then we can vote on the amendment and then the main motion either with or out with or without the amendment depending on how it's determined there's multiple ways to do it okay well let me let me speak my understanding emotion was being made with an amendment on it which would have changed what he's offering we haven't moved that as of as of that point till council member tomoshop started speaking so that's what i'm trying to clarify what you just said i made a motion to adopt the resolution as it was though i believe but it wasn't so but i thought i was supposed to do that and then once it was seconded then offer the amendment so i'm missing i will i will second the case motion so right now right now we have nothing on the floor so we're going to start over you you you read through your i was through the motion okay so would you like to make an amendment i would love to i will just read would you like to make a motion a different language is what i'm saying okay is that you agree with that i think that's acceptable so long as the council understands what the motion is okay right and then mayor if i could to clarify with mr bailey if my my amended motion fails then somebody can make an emotion to adopt it the way it is if it fails no mayor and council no that's the problem is if your motion that includes the two some would say that the original motion fails so the cleaner way to do it which is more laborious is to take a motion to approve the item and have a second and then after when you indicated that you would want to offer a second is then take the second or um which would be the amendment excuse me take the amendment and then get a second on the amendment so then all you're considering first is the amendment then if the amendment passes then that would be incorporated into the original motion if it doesn't pass it doesn't kill the original item okay all right i guess i'm up different way of doing it okay mayor i'd like to make a motion to amend resolution r21-1 no point of order no we need you to just make the motion i thought you okay i'm totally confused if you would just make the motion to approve all right i move that we adopt resolution r21-110 second okay i have emotional council member tom trump council member aldama do we have questions or discussion on that motion i would like to offer an amendment to that motion mayor and my amendment as stated previously i won't go into the whole diatribe that i just did but i believe that we uh we have established a precedent of adopting rates in two-year increments at least since i've been here we've adopted raised adjustments in two-year increments i believe it's more prudent to be absolutely certain that these rates are going to accommodate what our costs are and going forward for two years there's too much uncertainty right now i think to adopt a five-year rate plan we have a five-year rate plan that we can use if at the end of the two years we see it's still going to work for what we need to do what our costs are we can continue on with it but i'm amending this my amendment is to offer adjustments in january 22 and january 23 and then to reassess at the end of that and see if we're going to move forward with a second are you good mr bailey mayor i am and what is on the floor is the amendment not it's strictly for the amendment that it would go from a five-year to a two-year programmatic um rate adjustment mayor so so with that go ahead thank you mayor so just get a clarifying question if we adopt it as is in five years can we benchmark this thing in two years and and review it yes correct that's what i thought if we don't we have to do this all over again if we feel like so i i don't see how that makes any sense if we voted in the five years we we asked the city manager to come back in two years when we benchmark it and we review it we may end up saying yeah we're done at the two years i don't want to come through it and do this again there right um councilmember if you're if you're saying we're ben we're still going to have to do it again in two years either way this isn't going to change that if we're going to reassess in two years and based on how we've adjusted rates since i've been here we've adopted rates in two-year increments and i i think it's really more fair to residents to also understand that that's kind of what they've expected in the past that they know what the rates are going to i might mike one of my big concerns is that we're going to have to even increase them even more if our costs there's there's a very good chance that our costs our costs are going to increase because of the the colorado river shortage i mean there's real that's a real thing um and the cost to deliver the water is not going to go down even though they're delivering less water so they're going to be selling less water but their costs are not going to change so i would rather not have to go say we're adopting a five-year rate plan and then to have to go back and change it and increase it which is a real possibility yeah so i i don't know who to ask this question to you mr phelps or someone two things one is if if in fact their water is allocation is smaller are they charging us more for the water if we're getting less water you're saying yes yeah mayor that's correct the the operations and maintenance costs for cap for the canal remains the same right so if you have the full number of users the price is shared between all of them if you have less users the same price is shared by the less users so our price the the price per uh acre foot goes up for those because there's less uh people uh taking the water out of the canal okay okay you had a statement you wanted to make well i think i want to clarify i believe what councilman raul dahman was alluding to the council could pass the five-year rate and then if everything meets the targets and the projections then no new rate increase would be necessary but at any and all times the budgeting process the council has the right to adjust rates so i think that's if i understand councilmember aldama's point um you you could pass a more than two year but you always reserve the right to adjust it if circumstances changes right so and that was my question i was going to ask you we don't have to even benchmark it if if you go back and say our costs are going up we need to revisit this we can revisit it at any time yes is that correct that's correct okay so i i don't know i don't know what what yours is doing that wouldn't already be done other than yours is mandatorily making it happen in two years can i explain that there oh yeah please thank you so my point is that we would be telling the residents these are our rates for the next five years when we don't have a lot of certainty i think we can be pretty certain for the next two years and besides that we've established a precedent of of of doing this every two years that's what we've been doing so that to me that's what the difference is is that the the residents are going to see that we adopted a five-year rate plan for our water and sewer charges and that and that that's they're going to think that that's that's what it's going to be for the next five years when there's likely going to have to be an adjustment to it so that's to me that's what the difference is is adopting it for five years rather than saying two years we can look at it again in two years the rate this race study is already done we're not going to have to go back and do any of that again so and if we have to make adjustments to it we can which is what you're saying we would have to do anyway so um that's that's that's the way i feel i'm not going to be prepared to be a yes on a five-year rate plan i'm just putting that out there now i would be a yes for a two-year plan mr milner uh thank you mayor um i disagree with the councilmember tom chuff's our argument um i believe uh us putting a rate out there for the taxpayers to know that this is the rate of increase that you can't expect in the next five years but everyone knows that inflation could kick in anything could happen that cause things to go out of whack i would hope this council would be a little more reluctant to go back into that plan since it is the plan and raise it again even if we have increases but rather try to absorb that within our organization and i think during bad times that's what organizations do they they try to absorb the cost they try to reduce costs they try to do whatever they can do in order to make things still work and keep the rates that we promise the residents i think putting that out there we are giving them a promise and that is true we are giving them a rate that we are saying this is what we'd like to see happen over the next five years however i think it does put a little bit of pressure on the council also to maintain those rates and not to raise them even when we have increases in cost that we try to absorb them as an organization and when we get to that point we'll decide where we're going to go with that but that's my point and i would vote no on the amendment at this point in time okay mr turner oh thank you mayor um as i understand that the amendment would ensure that we would look at this in two years when we came on the council when i came on and several others came on the council water rates sanitation rates none of that had been adjusted in over 10 years as i recall and it needed to be adjusted and it was a very big adjustment at that time i don't want to get this council or a future council back in that situation i think that we can project through the five-year estimate of what we think they will be but that we should only adopt them in two years at a time so that they're always if they need to be adjusted keeping in mind that this is enterprise fund money we shouldn't be making up for it elsewhere in the budget if they need to be adjusted the adjustments can be small and they can be in real time for our residents that residents understand oh yeah i've been reading about it in paper i understand the shortage this is the actual consequence to me and it will also if rates need to go up because the fixed costs are spread over a smaller number of acre feet being delivered to a smaller number of customers not having ag in there for instance and all then that will also help them to become more present to conservation but i absolutely think that we should pass these past just the first two years of the schedule and in two years reassess and and move on from there and you know that's i mean we have council members that are reluctant to do five-year contracts so um that hasn't necessarily bothered me so much but i certainly think that we ought to be addressing things that have such an immediate effect on our residents as water rates on a on a more frequent interval there over here mayor i'm just are you finished yes sir thank you good thank you sir i appreciate it um i'm glad councilmember turner mentioned the five-year contracts because i've always attested that because it's a five-year contract you can always city manage and go say hey we're done get out of here we'll find somebody else year one year two year four year five but here's the thing i it's really unorthodox for me to to approve water rates i approve the last two and 17 and 19. but god darn i tell you what our district needs to have adequate water all the time and that's why i'm being supportive at this time because you the resident has asked me to lead this district and make sure you have the utilities at your doorstep and that's what we're going to do furthermore if we if we don't do this today we've already invested a lot of time in staff staff's time that's a lot of dog we pay you well citizens pay you well and i don't want to have to do this again another public outreach once more i'd like to get it done today and be done with and i trust in our staff that i use the term benchmark but if there's some really high increases we're going to come back to the table again but councilmember uh tomlinson just so you know what if it what if it gets i mean i mean this is this is five year certainty i mean it can get really really bad and we just back off at any time so i don't think that your motion would do any different than than the five years and then just backing off and two if we needed to so i i too i'm going to vote no to the amendment thank you mayor mayor nobody's talking about not adopting rate increases i don't know where that's coming from and by the way i have voted previously for the rate increases because i understand the need for infrastructure and to preserve our water system and our wastewater system how important that is to our community so i've supported that every single time and i'm supporting it now i honestly don't know how we ever got to a five-year plan because we've been doing this in two-year increments i'm not sure where the five years came from and i don't feel like it's prudent to do that right now we have the rate study we have the five-year plan but we can adopt the first two years of it nobody's saying not to do this or to adjust the rates i support adjusting the rates i just only support adjusting the first two rate adjustments at this time mayor okay i've been really good and i've listened to both sides of the of the equation on this and i find that i do fall on the side of council member tomachoff traditionally we have looked at the rates every two years and i cannot see a reason to about abandon that habit and practice so i do want to revisit our rate structure in two years plus it also provides another opportunity to inform our ratepayers and our public of exactly what we are doing with regard to water and sewer rates so i support the motion okay we're going to go ahead and never have a question go ahead so if we adopt the the two-year will that affect our ability to carry on with with all the services we're going to provide with the water with an increase or were that lost now uh no the uh we we reevaluate our budget every year and we we look at all of our costs and associated with operating the business and we'll we make according adjustments accordingly when you come to you for budget and if if the revenue falls short or if we're not meeting council policy then i'll work with city management to present that to council so we're saying if we do two-year you won't be harmed no sir okay because i don't want anything go wrong with our water system and our sewer i want it maintained now work the way the plan is put together right now is we are planning january 1st the revenue will continue to come in at those rates that you set for for the next two years and that gives us a year and a half to look this is a well we'll look at it again in this coming budget year and then we'll look at it at the next budget year and then we can update council on where we stand exactly okay mr phelps uh mayor members of the council so from a staff perspective the advantage of the five years a couple things one the largest potential impact on the rate is not going to be supply it's the that we have a very specific long-range capital improvement plan making improvements to our plant and development of water supply the new regulations for purification and so having predictability on a five-year rate structure is really most advantageous there but as we said at any time every year the council can readjust but what would keep us from having to do if if all the numbers all of the the budget forecasts remain consistent to what our forecast is it would just mean we wouldn't have to then stop the process have staff go out and re-engage with public there's a required uh public process for going through and doing this so they're just i mean there's advantage from a staff perspective it's clearly a policy issue but again just as a reminder the vast majority of what this rate structure is going to do is not to pay for the supply of water it's really all of the capital improvements that we're making to increase redundancy to replace a very old and aging infrastructure and so that does help us from a long-range planning perspective these projects are not one-year projects they typically can run multiple years over a period of time thank you all right and then um i think it's been said i just want to repeat it to make sure that i've got it if we'd adopted the five year we can re revisit this every year if we notice cost of chemicals go up ridiculous like they have many times in the past the labor costs go up uh supplies any supplies cement electric whatever any of those go up every year we don't have to wait for two years every year we can revisit this would you say that it's correct that it's almost unlikely and unlikely and impossible that we would ever lower these rates the way things are looking right now mayor council with the plan that we've got in front of us i don't see him being lured right so again i don't know personally the five-year plan to me i don't see a problem with that if if if finance or you say there's a problem 11 months from now we have to revisit it in 12 months because we have to have some sort of cost increase that's that's a burden all of us have to bear so whether we do it in two years or three years or five years that to me makes no difference i don't have a problem with supporting this i don't know as though the amount of time that we've spent arguing this that it really is going to make any difference whether it's two years or three years we're going to keep coming back and looking at this if there's issues and that's the beauty of this council we have that opportunity to do that i'm going to support i'm not going to support the amendment but i will support the bill without the amendment with that said i do have to open this up for a public hearing it does require that so public hearing is now open on this item anyone in the audience wishing to speak hearing none fulfill that requirement right okay public hearing is now closed uh you have before you a motion made by councilmember thomas off with an amendment we are now going to vote on the amendment uh and i'll do a roll call vote on the amendment council member how do aldama how do you vote on the amendment nay councilmember clerk how do you vote on the amendment aye councilmember melner how do you vote on the amendment nay remember thomas how do you vote on the amendment aye councilmember turner how do you vote on the amendment aye council uh vice mayor hugh how do you vote on you i'm sorry and the chair votes so your amendment failed so now we're voting on it as written without the amendment so with that again uh roll call vote councilmember aldama how do you vote on the original amendment on the original without the amendment aye councilmember clark how do you vote mayor i want to explain my vote good first of all mr johnson i want you to know i respect and admire you a great deal i can call you mr glendale water you have shepherded glendale's water supply for more years than i think you want to admit or i want to admit so i do respect your advice and your counsel even though i may not always agree with it i find that the case is made for raising the rates for at some point for the cost of water chemicals o m those are hard costs that can be quantified i i do have a trouble with the provision of redundancy redundancy is not a critical element it's an element we like what we would like to accomplish over time i don't think that we necessarily have built into this package a longer time period with which to create that redundancy i also find that i'm having i mean i thought about this a lot i'm not whatever i'm saying or doing i'm not doing lightly i've i've thought about this for months now the rates don't take into consideration the fact that we have tremendous growth going on in this city new rate payers that are going to contribute to the overall health of the business yes i know that we'll have to issue more water but i think the rate payers and what they pay totally compensates for whatever new water demands there are um we're asking for you're asking for 4.3 for water and 3.04 sewer over the next five years but the i think the issue that we went back and forth on the most was the one of compounding and the fact that we're asking you say we're asking the ratepayer to pay i'll pick a number three percent this year at that three percent cost to what you're already paying so say you're paying a hundred dollars a month now you're paying 103 a month next year whatever the increase is is based upon that 103 not upon the 100 you were paying a year ago so each year that that same percentage is based upon a greater amount that you pay on an annual basis and i think honestly there should be an adjustment for that but there is none and so i don't think when we tell people it's going to cost x percent per year that were necessarily being totally truthful at that so i'm sorry mr johnson i thought as i said i thought about this a great deal i think you make a half case i'm not sure you make a whole case and with that i will be voting now councilmember milner how do you vote i remember tom trump how do you go there i'd like to explain my vote sure uh i would would gladly support the water rate increase in two-year increments as we've been doing has been our residents are customary to expecting and i mean i misstated the case that i believe not just the cost of water but just the cost of doing business continues to increase the cost of wages insurance materials uh every you know the pipes everything we're doing the concrete all of it the costs continue to increase so i am not comfortable adopting a five-year rate plan um and with that i vote nay house member turner how do you vote explain my vote go ahead thank you mayor um i think on an issue as important as this it's crucial that the council stay on top of it on a relatively regular basis we've been doing it on two years i believe that the council's instruction was to bring us back a two-year uh proposal we got a five nonetheless i just think in these uncertain times it really is in the best interest of our residents that the council have to come back and look at these rates on a two-year basis and therefore i vote no vice mayor how do you vote fine terrible outside the motion does carry new business mr power would you introduce item number 30 for us authorization to enter into a professional services agreement with plaza del rio management corporation to develop marketing and branding materials for 54 plus or minus acres of city-owned property and nine plus or minus privately owned acres located at southeast corner of 95th avenue and cardinals way mayor members of council provide staff report this evening is glendale economic development director brian friedman thank you mr phelps very good evening mayor council this item is a request for council to prove a professional services agreement with plaza del rio management corporation to serve as the owner's representative for the purpose of developing a communications plan to include marketing and branding materials for the entire 63-acre site located at the southeast corner of 95th avenues and cardinals way the agreement includes specific deliverables timelines and costs and is the next step in continuing to explore the project's viability with our partners and the adjacent landowner to recap mayor accounts i apologize are we receiving this up on the screen as well perfect okay then mayor and council apologized to recap council's prior actions regarding this opportunity in march of this year council attended a tour at sky song in june that provided consensus to pursue a partnership with plaza companies in august we received the agreement approval and in september 14th we council approved of two items a site plan with phasing options and then design standards as well as covenants codes and restrictions in this area the subject property is located at the intersection of 95th avenue and cardinals way it's purple on your screens just south of cardinals way and the cardinal stadium and in just east of crystal lagoon's island resort to give you a little more detail on the site the property that is in shown on your screens in yellow and in green are both owned by the city of glendale the site in green's approximately 20 acres it is unencumbered and undeveloped the site in yellow is the site of 4001 parking spaces which serves as parking for both the aster agreement the bidwell or cardinals family agreement as well as the crystal lagoons agreement and then the nine acres in orange is owned by the bidwell family establishing a cohesive brand is a vital part of place making and establishes a personality for the property this agreement calls for the creation of all branding and marketing materials along with a communications plan to promote the project to the open market these elements and items are needed to establish character and a sense of place for the site and include specific deliverables and those deliverables include conducting a a branding shred for the development of the project name design concepts graphics and logos a brand style guide for the logo itself as well as preparing a comprehensive manual establishing the logo's usage guidelines and then finally a comprehensive communications plan and marketing materials to promote the site to the open market the cost to produce the communications plans and all the marketing materials is not to exceed 26 100 it will be taken from the general fund contingency and as a term of 12 months however we expect the product to be delivered sooner for council's consideration and with that i would be more than happy to recommend approval of the marketing communications professional services agreement as a continuation of our partnership with plaza companies and turn it over to mayor and council this time to answer any questions thank you mr friedman questions from the council come here i just have one question or actually it's a request on previous projects we've been provided with a spreadsheet to give us a running total and i believe this would put it a little over 200 000 so far with this investigative part of this endeavor but if we could have a spreadsheet that included a running total of the expenses so far this money is coming out of contingency so i think that would i would find value in that going forward if you could do that i'd appreciate it thank you okay can i get a motion to approve i had a question mayor i'm going to get questions a minute let's get the motion done and i'm going to go to you can i get a motion to approve anybody the agreement with plaza companies item number 30 yes item number 30. thank you for a second second okay motion council member milner second council member al dama right into action now mr turner oh thank you mayor well hello mr freedline friedman um we're looking at a 63-acre site i think and 10 acres of which are privately owned is that but the work that's being done tonight and the previous contracts cover all of the acreage is the private owner participating in the cost of any of this on a pro rate of share mayor and council members no not at this time we are working on our property to help you thank you that's all there thank you any other questions okay we have any speaker cards no sir thank you roll call vote councilmember o'donnell how do you vote hi councilmember clark how do you vote mayor i'd like to explain my vote go ahead thank you uh i i welcome this and and the past agreements and any future agreements with plaza because each one leads to putting meat on the bones of an idea and right now we're we're still in the concept phase we know we want something to happen with that property so this is just another building block in identifying the possibilities for that site so i welcome plaza companies in this agreement and i vote aye councilmember milner how do you vote hi councilmember thomas how do you vote here i'd like to explain my vote good thank you um i've struggled with this uh from the very beginning and i've done a lot of kind of soul searching to figure out what my issue really is here and i i think for me there's two issues one is i as a i i really believe in limited government and government staying out of people's business and this is the is basically government acting as a developer and an investor i fundamentally disagree with that and i fundamentally disagree with government competing with private investment those are just two fundamental beliefs of mine i can't find a way to get around that i very much respected admire plaza companies but i just really fundamentally just don't think that this is a arena government should be in there's a lot of private investment happening in that area and i don't believe that as uh we should be using taxpayer money to compete with private investment i vote nay councilmember turner how do you vote explain my vote man go ahead uh thank you um though this project and concept has not has yet to be presented to the public the council first got a whiff of this uh as is mentioned in today's materials following a uh a tour of the sky song development over in in scottsdale um a development that's had a rather difficult history of its own but it's important though as impressive perhaps as sky song is today it's in no way comparable to westgate the development over there is clearly redevelopment of a depressed area which is devoid of commercial activity and certainly deserved and required public uh activity to make it make it move but that's not the case in westgate it's been mentioned by our mayor himself today the hottest uh fastest growing county in america is maricopa and the fastest growing part of the county is basically westgate and west so we don't need to be incentivizing anything out there we don't need to be covering the cost for private landowners out there we don't need to be competing with private developers that have already invested a lot of money in their projects and and are trying to get them off the ground the city philosophically i think does not belong in the developer role in real estate that's not our job we don't belong developing ccnr's and and branding and logos and marketing materials and all of that that's not the city's role that's what the private sector particularly when it's not anywhere at all a redevelopment site so um and the taxpayers glendale taxpayers over the last 20 plus years have seriously and incentivized uh development out in that very area with westgate camelback ranch the division two i guess it is now instead of division four taxpayers have invested a lot of that money into the public infrastructure and it is time that they reap the benefit of that by letting those those developments proceed and and begin developing and paying back into the the taxpayers paying back to the taxpayers the money that we've incentivized out there when incentivizing was it was required to make it move i think it's the wrong time to be putting this parcel on the market when there's so much else out there that isn't developed yet but but will be we're competing with ourselves and but if we are going to put it on the market i think we should just sell it and let private sector do what the private sector does best and with that i don't know vice mayor how do you vote all right jared what's eye motion does carry council comments and suggestions councilmember o'donnell thank you mayor i just want to remind everyone who's watching out there this week ends the october live at murphy park until december uh thanks to sap staff we had a really great um live at murphy park so i encourage everyone to come out every day of the week up until sunday so and we'll be wrapping them to december thank you mayor councilmember clark thank you mayor um this last week i held the first district meeting i had held in over a year and while attendance was not great it was decent but i really want to thank every staff person who presented at that meeting they were thorough they were excited to be there and to make their presentations they did fantastic jobs and those citizens who were there did learn a lot and they commented to me that they thought that the presentations were very well done we'll keep trying in person district meetings covet has got to disappear sooner or later and when that happens i'm sure we'll have greater attendance than we've we had for this past one but i want to thank everyone for attending thank you mayor thank you councilmember milner uh thank you mayor i have a couple of items um first i would like to do a shout out for the streets and engineering and pavement department the last few weeks the street very close to my home cactus between 51st and 59th has been rebuilt and i was very impressed with a couple of things i know we've changed the process we use and i've spoken with residents they their hoa meeting across the street at marshall ranch and several residents commented how they thought how unique it was that we're taking old pavement grinding it up and putting it back down on the road as the base it's saving us money i'm sure and providing a great service but overall i just thought the whole process was very smooth the it was it was quick you know it's not completely done but it was quick uh the cruise seemed very efficient because i'm right there i watched him a lot i also noticed uh very little traffic issues you know there were some here and there and people would cross the lines when they were supposed to but otherwise it was pretty good so i just want to thank you for a job well done on a second note i want to recognize this may seem a little strange but i want to recognize the 161st air refueling wing of the air national guard uh based at sky harbor airport airport which i observed this weekend uh this past weekend they have been part of the air national guard since 1947 it's their mission to work uh across uh with bases across the southwest uh to train pilots on skills such as air fueling that day i observed uh the training of 10 f-35s refueling with the air tanker the experience really gave me a better appreciation for the men and women who serve in the air national guard and i just wanted to give a shout out for them thank you thank you councilmember thomas thank you mayor i do have a couple things this evening uh number one uh councilman melnar and i are going to be jointly doing a short event this saturday at the foothills library from 8 o'clock till 11 o'clock and that's due to a lot of demand we've heard from a lot of residents that have i guess a lot of boxes they need shredded because um i'm constantly hearing from residents so we're going to be holding that event this saturday um have some patience the line sometimes gets pretty long but we should hopefully have a lot of people out there helping us stay in your car we'll open your trunk or your suv and put them in the truck right in front of you so um that and then a save the date for choi residents for december 2nd um for a district meeting i haven't had one in almost two years now and that meeting is going to be not the holiday traditional holiday mixer i heard from residents that were a little uncomfortable holding that type of event still due to covid but water services is going to be presenting the presentation that we received about a month ago the water resources update including tier one colorado river shortage so i i'm sure we probably all get a lot of inquiries from residents they hear the thing on the news about cap and the colorado river shortage and lake mead and all of that um it was a really good presentation it'll be at 5 30 at foothills recreation aquatic center and we'll have uh boxed lunches dinners for those so you can come right from work and be able to eat your dinner and be educated on what glendale is doing and the good planning that our water department has done for the future of water in glendale thank you councilmember turner nothing tonight mayor vice mayor yes thank you mayor following with um having meetings we're bringing back our cactus district meeting tomorrow man it's iran so come visit with your neighbors interact with staff and bring you questions okay and i wasn't going to say anything but councilmember milner made me think of something when he was talking i uh talking about the air national guard at sky harbor the people that put that right along is called pang patriot air national guard and i was actually one of the board members on that for several years and uh so i'm glad you got that opportunity to to go up and see how that works so it's quite an experience for anybody that's never had that opportunity uh with that uh my question now for our clerk is do you have any citizens comment cards no sir okay so with that there's been no further business before this council and i'd like to thank everyone for attending tonight's meeting there's no objection from the council we're adjourning at 7 59. you