>> IT IS TO: 03. I AM SARAH NELSON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? >> [ ROLL CALL ] >> HOLLINGSWORTH? >> I'M PRESENT. >> THANK YOU. NINE PRESENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS HAS A PROCLAMATION PROCLAIMING OCTOBER 9th, 2025, TO BE CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS DAY. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS WILL -- SHARE THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS. AFTER COUNCILMEMBER CUMMINS WE WILL SUSPEND THE RULES FOR PROCLAMATION TO OUR GUEST AND ALLOW THE GUEST TO PROVIDE BRIEF COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE PROCLAMATION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I SEE WE HAVE A PACKED CHAMBER. HALF ARE HERE FOR CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS AND HALF ARE HERE FOR THE CONVERSATIONS LATER IN THE AGENDA. IF YOU WILL PERMIT US , WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS LATER. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CELEBRATE A LONGTIME STEWARD OF SEATTLE'S DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS AND VERONICA , BECAUSE I KNOW IT TAKES TWO TO DO EVERY JOB. I DON'T HAVE COMMENTS PREPARED , CHRISTOPHER. I'M GOING TO JUST SPEAK FROM THE HEART. CHRISTOPHER, YOU'VE FIXED SOME ANY PROBLEMS IN OUR CITY THAT NOBODY NEWER PROBLEMS. YOU'VE PROVIDED SOLUTIONS BEFORE THINGS BROKE. YOU WERE ABLE TO COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE HOW WE ARE DOING THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DAY SEATTLE CITIZENS ARE SERVED TO THE BEST OF THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND PARKS AND RECREATION. PARKS AND RECREATION NOT ONLY RESPONSE TO THE EXECUTIVE AND CITY COUNCIL, THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION AND BOARD. WHENEVER SOMEBODY HAS THREE BOSSES IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS THE ONE TO LISTEN TO. CHRISTOPHER, YOU'VE ALWAYS LISTENED TO THE FOURTH BOSS, WHICH IS THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF SEATTLE. YOU COME THROUGH TO MAKE SOLUTIONS WORK. YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO CUT RED TAPE ONE IT'S ABLE TO BE CUT. YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE , I HAVE TO WONDER, IS IT BECAUSE THE WATERFRONT PARK IS DONE THAT YOU ARE NOW LEAVING? WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT SUCCESS WITHOUT YOU. WE COULDN'T HAVE THE SUCCESSES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. WHETHER IT WAS BEACH COMMUNITY CENTER, WHETHER IT WAS THE LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER, WHETHER IT'S THE BOATHOUSE , THE HYDRO PITS OR THE BOATHOUSE AT GREEN LAKE. YOUR FINGERPRINTS ARE EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY . WE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT YOU. I HAVE WORRIED FOR TODAY FOR MANY YEARS. AND I'M ALSO RELIEVED BECAUSE ANDY HAS STEPPED UP INTO THE SEATS THAT I USUALLY SEE YOU SITTING IN. ANDY, YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED, I HAVEN'T CALLED YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I HAVE CALLED ANDY EVERY OTHER WEEK. AND THAT SUCCESSION PLANNING DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN -- YOU HAVE ASKED TO BE THE SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES OVER. YOU'VE ALWAYS RESPECTFULLY DECLINED . AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT TRUE LEADERSHIP DOES NOT REQUIRE BEING IN THE CEO POSITION. YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LEADER BY EXAMPLE. WHILE I CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID TO ME I CAN ALWAYS REMEMBER HOW YOU'VE MADE ME FEEL. WHETHER IT WAS A STAFF MEMBER WORKING FOR COUNCILMEMBER -- WHO IS HERE OR GETTING THINGS DONE FOR OUR CITY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF YOU WANT TO CALL ANOTHER COUNCILMEMBERS I MIGHT CRIB A COUPLE OF WORDS OUT OF THIS PROCLAMATION. >> SURE. DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA . SUFFICE HE COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. CHRISTOPHER, AS I SAID EARLIER, I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT. YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR MIND. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE MANY, MANY YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE CITY. YOU'VE SERVED AS THE SUPERINTENDENT INTERIM ROLL AS INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT MORE THAN ONCE. THE FACT THAT I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COLLEAGUES HERE , BOTH DIRECTORS FROM OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THEN MANY CALLINGS FROM PARKS HERE IS A TESTAMENT TO YOU. AND YOUR COLLABORATION AND THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE PUT INTO YOUR ROLL AT THIS CITY. ALWAYS WITH A SMILE, ALWAYS WITH GRACE, ALWAYS COLLABORATIVE. YOU HAVE ALWAYS RETURNED MY CALL. WHETHER I WAS IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, OR NOW IN THIS ROLL , WITHOUT FAIL. AGAIN, ALWAYS WITH A SMILE AND ALWAYS READY TO PROBLEM SOLVE WITH ME. I JUST CANNOT UNDERSCORE THE SERVICE THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM FOR THAT SERVICE. I KNOW I'M NOT ALONE IN THAT GRATITUDE AND IN THAT RECOGNITION. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS DAY HAS COME FOR YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY. IT'S VERY WELL-EARNED. YOUR RETIREMENT. I REALLY WISH YOU A REALLY AMAZING RETIREMENT. AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL SEE YOU AROUND THE CITY BECAUSE YOU CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT THE CITY AND YOU CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT THE PARKS IN THE CITY. I KNOW THIS IS JUST A "SEE YOU LATER" AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN. AND THANK YOU TO YOUR PARTNER AND FAMILY FOR ALLOWING YOU ALL THOSE YEARS TO TAKE THE LEADERSHIP ROLL THAT YOU HAVE AT THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ? >> LET ME SAY TWO THINGS FIRST. AS SOMEONE WHO LEFT AND CAME BACK, DON'T. >> COME ON! IT'S NOT THAT BAD. >> I JUST W■ANT TO START WITH THAT AND RECOGNIZE, OF COURSE, WHAT COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS SAID, RECOGNIZING COUNCILMEMBER BAG SHAW WHO SHARED PARKS AND WATERFRONT BEFORE ME. THEN SHE HANDED IT OFF TO ME. I SAID, MY PLUCKY SIDEKICK. SHE BECAME MY VICE CHAIR. THEN I HAD SIX MORE YEARS. CHRISTOPHER, YOU WITH JESUS, AND NOW WITH DIAZ. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THE PARKS. COMMUNITY MEETINGS, LAWSUITS, BUDGET, THE ZOO, WATERFRONT , AQUARIUM, POCKET PARKS, OFF LEASH DOG, WE COULD GO ON, AND ON, AND ON. EVEN THOUGH WE TRIED TO MAKE YOU THE GUY IN CHARGE YOU HAVE ALWAYS SAID, I'M GOING TO STAY RIGHT HERE. THIS IS WHERE I NEED TO BE. AND NOW I KNOW WHY. I JUST WANT TO SAY, IT'S SUCH A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU. I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC HEARS US ENOUGH . WHEN THEY ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS LIKE YOU, AND I HAVE LEARNED THIS IN ANY COUNTRY AS WELL, THERE ARE PEOPLE GOING ANYWHERE THAT CARE. I JUST REMEMBER A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND YOU ARE SITTING AT THE TABLE AND YOU QUIETLY REMIND ME, YOU NEED TO MOVE THAT COMING TO SECOND THAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU. AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW HARD PEOPLE WORK IN ALL OF THESE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE THE CITY WORK . JUST BEHIND-THE-SCENES STUFF. I KNOW PEOPLE COME HERE AND THEY ARE ANGRY AND HOLLER AT US. THE CALL IS NAMES. OKAY. THERE'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT MAKE THIS A REASON WHY I WOULD COME BACK HERE. I KNOW YOU PUT UP WITH A LOT , GIRL. I KNOW YOU DID. SEE? WITH THAT, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNSELOR BAG SHOP. CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? PLEASE LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE HERE. THERE SHE IS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PICK >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WILL BE SUPERFAST. MR. WILLIAMS, CHRISTOPHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY. I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A LONG TIME. HE WORKED WITH MY FATHER AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND HE ALWAYS VERY HIGHLY OF YOU AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE. ANYTIME I SPOKE WITH ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY THEY ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THEIR GREAT INTERACTION WITH YOU, HOW YOU CARED PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE PARK SYSTEM. YOU ARE LIKE A WALKING ENCYCLOPEDIA. YOU KNOW PARKS IN AND OUT. I SEE YOUR LOVELY WIFE SHAKING HER HEAD. YOU KNOW THE SYSTEM IN AND OUT. NOT JUST THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT THE GROUPS THAT CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR PARKS HEALTHY AND CONNECTED HIM AND THAT ARE ADVOCATING FOR THEM. THAT IS A BIG PIECE IN WHAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE GREAT INTERACTION WITH OUR COMMUNITY. AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR REALLY SETTING THE TONE AND THE BAR. HOPEFULLY YOU ENJOY EVERY PIECE OF YOUR RETIREMENT FORWARD. SO THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. MR. WILLIAMS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY. WE ALL KNOW THAT IS REAL. I JUST WANT TO SAY, WE THINK IT SUPPORT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, TO CELEBRATE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN IN SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AND THAT SERVICE HAD SUCH A HIGH LEVEL FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE MR. WILLIAMS. SINCE WE ARE A MARITIME CITY I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING, FAIR WINDS AND FOLLOWING SEAS. WHATEVER LIES NEXT IN YOUR NEXT CHAPTER. THANK YOU. >> LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE WITH HER HAND UP. I WILL SIMPLY SAY, I WILL MISS YOU. YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS ARE A COMMONS. IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST TANGIBLE AND BELOVED SYMBOL OF OUR DEMOCRACY. IT'S WHERE WE COME TOGETHER, IT'S EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR PARKS SAYS A GREAT DEAL IF NOT THE MOST OF OUR STEWARDSHIP OF OUR DEMOCRACY BASICALLY. I KNOW THIS SOUNDS GRANDIOSE. OUR PARKS ARE REPRESENTATION OF OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER. TO JUST PERFORM LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS. DELIVERING BASIC SERVICES. IT'S ALSO DOING SO IN A WAY THAT IMPROVES PEOPLE'S LIVES AND SHOWS WHAT WE CAN BE AS A CITY TOGETHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO HOPE THAT YOU WRITE YOUR MEMOIR SOMEDAY. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. MAYBE THIS IS FOR THE CLERK. WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBER JOEY HOLLINGSWORTH WITH US IN OPEN SESSION. CAN SHE PLEASE SIGN? >> I COULDN'T HEAR THE END OF WHAT YOU SAID. >> CAN COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH SIGNED THE PROCLAMATION SINCE WE ARE IN OPEN SESSION? >> ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? THERE'S A TECHNICALITY. GO AHEAD. >> AT THIS POINT, THE PROTOCOL FOR IT , THE SIGNATURES ARE REPRESENTED FROM THOSE MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING AND WHO SIGNED ONTO AT THAT MEETING. >> I WILL SCRIBBLE IN JOY'S NAME LATER. >> CAN I GET A VERBAL SIGNATURE? I VERBALLY SIGN THE PROCLAMATION. >> WE WILL PUT A POST-IT NOTE ON THERE. I WILL JUST CLOSE WITH SOME FINAL REMARKS READING FROM THE PROCLAMATION. I WILL READ EVERY WORD OF IT. CHRISTOPHER, YOU EMBODY QUIET POWER. YOU HAVE SERVED OUR NATION, YOU HAVE SERVED OUR CITY . YOU COME NOT LOOKING FOR THE SPOTLIGHT OR THE SOAPBOX, OR TO SAY WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG. YOU COME TO SAY WHAT WILL WORK FOR SEATTLE. IT'S HOW WE GET THE JOB DONE. HOW WE GET THE JOB DONE AS QUICKLY AND EQUITABLE AS POSSIBLE. IT'S JUST A SINCERE PLEASURE. SO READING FROM THIS , HAVING GROWN UP IN SEATTLE AND AS A GRADUATE OF COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, A FORMER UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS OFFICER AND COMMITTED COMMUNITY LEADER , CHRISTOPHER'S PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS ARE MATCHED BY HIS PERSONAL INTEGRITY. HE HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE MUNICIPAL LEAD OF IN COUNTIES PUBLIC EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR AND THE RECIPIENT OF THE NATIONAL RECREATIONAL AND PARKS ASSOCIATION ROSE AWARD FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION AND EXCEPTIONAL COMMITMENT TO HIS FIELD OF PROFESSION. CHRISTOPHER HAS SERVED FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS HERE IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND HIS STEADFAST COMMITMENT ENSURES SEATTLE'S PARKS AND OPEN SPACES THRIVE. AND HE HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PROMOTING THE CITY'S HEALTH, SUSTAINABILITY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. YOU HAVE SERVED IN A NUMBER OF ROLES IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION. UNDER FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS, INCLUDING ACTING SUPERINTENDENT THREE TIMES. JEFF PROVIDED THE DEPARTMENT WITH THE STEADY DIRECTION DURING CHALLENGING TIMES . ALWAYS STEPPING UP TO GUIDE THE TEAM WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND GRACE. AND AS DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT AND CHIEF OF STAFF CHRISTOPHER MANAGED THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM THAT IS CONSISTENTLY RANKED AMONG THE TOP 10 IN THE NATION. AP NEVER LET ME FORGET THAT. EXPERTLY OVERSEEING MORE THAN 1000 EMPLOYEES, 10 SWIMMING POOLS, 26 COMMUNITY CENTERS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF 6200 ACRES OF PARKLAND ACROSS THE CITY. WHICH INCLUDE NEARLY 500 DEVELOPED PARKS. WE COULDN'T HAVE THIS CITY SUCCESS WITHOUT YOU. I'M SURE THAT AP AND ANDY WILL CONTINUE THAT LEGACY WHILE YOU ARE OUT FISHING. IF YOU HAVE ANY EXTRA FISH, YOU'VE GOT MY NUMBER. WITH THAT, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I WOULD ASK IF WE COULD ALL TAKE A PHOTO AND TO HAVE CHRISTOPHER'S GUESTS JOIN US ON THE SIDE OF THE BARRIER IF THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT. >> SURE. I HAVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THE PROCLAMATION TO OUR GUEST AND ALLOW THE GUEST TO PROVIDE BRIEF COMMENTS. I SEE NO OBJECTION TO SUSPENDING THE RULES . LET'S GO FORWARD. THE COUNCILS ARE SUSPENDED. THE PROCLAMATION WILL NOW BE PRESENTED . AFTER IT IS PRESENTED CHRISTOPHER CAN SAY A FEW WORDS TO US. GO AHEAD, PLEASE PICK >> WONDERFUL. SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS , COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE ARE DOING THIS ON THE FLY. TELL ME IF WE ARE OUT OF LINE. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO THIS FRONT AREA. CHRISTOPHER AND VERONICA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS. DOES THAT WORK? ON THE SIDE. YEP. IS THAT OKAY? THERE'S A LOT OF MIXING . SORRY. >> JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO. >> JUST COME RIGHT IN. >> OKAY. CAN I START? ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL. JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE KINDER MARKS AND NICE WORDS. THEY ARE SINCERELY HEARTFELT AND I FEEL GREAT HERE. I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'VE SAT AT THE TABLE MANY TIMES . JUST THE ABUNDANT COURTESY AND RESPECT THEY OFFER TO CITY STAFF WHENEVER WE COME HERE AND SIT IN FRONT OF YOU. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT . THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HEAR A LOT BUT IT MEANS A LOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME AND STAFF WHO WORK IN THE DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TEAM I WORK WITH . DIAZ, OUR SUPERINTENDENT, MICHELLE FINNIGAN, ANDY SHEPPARD, DESIREE, -- KATELYN, RACHEL, AND ALEX , WHO WILL BE TAKING MY PLACE . JUST A WONDERFUL GROUP OF COLLEAGUES AND PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE. THEY KEEP IT REAL . WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT THIS TEAM IS NOBODY IS VYING FOR RECOGNITION OR TO GET NOTICE. THEY WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER IN PROFESSIONAL WAY. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A COUPLE OF -- WERE HERE. CAULEY MILLER, WHO HIRED ME WAY BACK WHEN. AND KEN IS HERE. THERE HE IS. AND HOLLY. AND KURT GREENE IS ALSO HERE . I THINK KURT GREENE HAD HIS OWN PROCLAMATION DAY WAY BACK WHEN . I WANT TO SURPRISE SOME PEOPLE HERE. SALLY BACK SHOT, STEVE BOYD, BOB DAVISON, MY FAMILY, MY LOVELY WIFE, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW WHO ARE HERE . AND JUST WITH HEARTFELT GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR EVERYONE HERE WHOSE NAME I DIDN'T CALL. BUT I LOVE YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU. WE HAVE SHARED TOGETHER IS SO MUCH RECIPROCAL RESPECT AND APPRECIATION AND A LOVE FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM. AND A BASIC COMMONALITY AROUND THE LOVE OF THE PARK SYSTEM HAS DRIVEN OUR RELATIONSHIP FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. THAT HAS HELD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART. THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL . AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY. IT HAS BEEN A TRANSFORMATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND TRANSFORMATIONAL RIDE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AFTER APPLAUSE THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN ENCORE. JUST KIDDING. EVERYBODY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. MOVING ON. COLLEAGUES, AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR, AND THE COUNCIL WORK PROGRAM. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY? >> WE HAVE 60 IN PERSON AND 69 REMOTE. >> OKAY. WE WILL DO 10 AND 10, PLEASE. START WITH 10 IN PERSON COMMENTERS. >> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE REGISTERED. WE WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF IN PERSON SPEAKERS AND REMOTE SPEAKERS. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A CHIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR TIME. SPEAKERS MICROPHONES WILL BE MUTED IF THEY DO NOT END THEIR COMMENTS WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. WE WILL NOW BEGIN WITH OUR IN PERSON COMMENTERS. >> WE HAVE THE FIRST 10 SPEAKERS. WE HAVE EVENT AND THEN RACHEL SNELL, JOE GOC'S AND ALEX. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE START, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FROM THE WATERFRONT PARK. I WENT TO THE GRAND OPENING. IT IS JUST, JUST WONDERFUL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMENT TO THE CAMERAS. I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM AND NOT NEED THEM THEN NEED THEM AND NOT HAVE THEM. I DON'T HAVE TIME TODAY TO SPEAK ON ACCOUNTABILITY. BUT I ALSO HAVE A SMALL TOKEN OF APPRECIATION , TO GIVE THAT TO YOU ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE ONLY GOT ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, PRESIDENT NELSON AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RACHEL SNELL. I, LIKE MANY OTHER SEATTLE , URGING YOU TO VOTE NO ON SP'S PILOTED USE OF THE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. FEDERAL AUTHORITIES CURRENTLY USE THESE TOOLS THROUGH ICE AND HOMELAND SECURITY TO -- IMMIGRANTS AND THOSE SEEKING GENDER FROM CARE AND VIOLATE THE RIGHTS TO PRIVACY AND WILL IN FACT DECREASE PUBLIC SAFETY. IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HERE IN SEATTLE ARE ALREADY FACING -- FAMILIES ARE BEING TORN APART AND MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS DON'T FEEL SAFE GOING TO SCHOOL, WORK, GROCERY STORE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT BEING KIDNAPPED OR HUMMING TO AN EMPTY HOME. INSTEAD OF PROMOTING ANOTHER WORTHLESS PIECE OF LEGISLATION, LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A HABIT OF DOING, AND WASTE MORE TAX DOLLARS, WHY NOT TAKE A STAND FOR ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY? STAND UP FOR THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO TRULY MAKE THE CITY AN AMAZING CITY TO LIVE IN. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER -- FOR YOUR TIRELESS LEADERSHIP. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD. I WANT TO NOTE, I WAS ALERTED THAT THE 43rd LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE SEAN SCOTT IS IN THE HOUSE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHAT I WAS STARTING TO CALL PEOPLE. IT'S OUR TRADITION FOR ELECTEDS AND FORMER ELECTEDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU CAN COME UP AFTER THE SPEAKER. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> I HAVE SPOKEN TO SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOUR TIMES REGARDING THE USE OF AMPLIFIED SOUND SYSTEMS ON THE SIDEWALK SURROUNDING T-MOBILE PARK. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE CAPTAIN AND REPRESENTATIVES OF SEATTLE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. DURING THAT TIME THE PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN WORSE. ON SUNDAY THIS PAST HOMESTAND SIX INDIVIDUALS USING LOUDSPEAKERS WERE CIRCLING THE BALLPARK AS THEY BLASTED FAMILIES WAITING FOR A GAME WITH THE HIGHEST SOUND LEVELS I HAVE EVER RECORDED AT T-MOBILE PARK. THEY WERE ALL OVER 110 DECIBELS AND ONE WAS BROADCASTING AT 121.7 DECIBELS. AND THIS WAS LITTLE LEAGUE DAY. FOUR MONTHS AGO I WAS TOLD THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS LOOKING TO DRAFT LEGISLATIVE APPROACH TO FIX THE GAPS IN OUR CURRENT LAWS. THE KIDS HAVE TO SUFFER OF HEARING LOSS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES BEFORE THIS CAN BE SOLVED? THANK YOU. >> GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER. I WANT TO SAY, WE WILL ATTEMPT TO GET THROUGH EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK TODAY. TO MAKE SURE WE CAN KEEP THINGS ROLLING, PLEASE -- HANDS AND SNAPS ARE ENCOURAGED. BUT SHOUTING, CHANTING, CLAPPING AND OTHER DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, PLEASE, NO THANK YOU. >> WE NOW HAVE ALEX -- AT LEAST. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ALEX FEHER. I AM SPEAKING JUST FOR MYSELF, BUT ALSO FOR SEATTLE INDIVISIBLE AS WELL. I WANTED TO ADDRESS WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING EXPANDING THE SURVEILLANCE RIGHT NOW. MIDDLE OF OUR PILOT PROGRAM WITHOUT THE RESULTS IN. THE CITY'S OWN PROCESSES TO EVALUATE FIRST AND THEN DECIDE. YET, THE INDEPENDENT STUDY WON'T BE READY UNTIL 2026 , 2027. WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING THE EXPANSION NOW. IF LIKE THAT BREAKS THE PROMISE OF A DATA-DRIVEN PILOT IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN ADDITION, THE CIVIL RIGHTS RISKS ARE REAL . THE CPC AND THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON ARE BOTH OPPOSING THIS EXPANSION, CITING THREATS OF DATA, HOSTILE ACTORS, INCLUDING IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. I JUST WANT TO PAUSE ON THAT MOMENT FOR SECOND. REGARDLESS OF YOUR INTENTIONS, SEATTLE CANNOT GUARANTEE HOW THIRD PARTIES OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL USE THIS DATA. ICE WILL GAIN ACCESS, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE IN MEDICAID AND THE DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING. >> HELLO. I AM HERE TODAY . AS WE SPEAK , FEDERAL AGENTS IN CHICAGO ARE PREPARING TO ROLL OUT TROOPS. FEDERAL AGENTS HAVE INVADED D.C. AND THEY HAVE THREATENED TO INVADE SEATTLE AND PORTLAND AS WELL. WHILE YOU GUYS SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE , WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? YOU ARE PASSING BILLS THAT MAKE IT EASIER FOR DONALD TRUMP TO GET AWAY WITH HIS CONSTITUTIONAL ABUSES. POLICE SHOULD HAVE TO GET A WARRANT IF THEY WANT TO ACCESS THIS FOOTAGE. SIMPLE AS THAT. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPY ON EVERYBODY IN THE CITY. I WENT TO GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. I'M VERY PROUD OF GOING TO GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. DON'T DO THIS TO OUR COMMITTEE. MEMBER SOLOMON, YOU HAVE BEEN IN MY HOUSE BEFORE. FROM DISTRICT 2. YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY. I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON BUT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN VOTE FOR. THIS WILL HARM MY COMMUNITY. COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA, YOU WON BY LESS THAN 500 VOTES, BOTH OF YOU. MEMBER NELSON IS NOT GOING TO WIN REELECTION. AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. >> WE HAVE A LEASE. FOLLOWING ELISE WILL BE ALISA AND THEN CARL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT , WHILE EVERYBODY IS IN LOVE WITH TECHNOLOGY, TOYS AND MACHINES , THAT MY EXPENSE WITH CCTV HAS BEEN PRETTY USELESS. CCTV CAUGHT WHOEVER STOLE MY HUSBAND'S BICYCLE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT IN A SAFEWAY PARKING LOT. YEAH, WE NEVER SAW THE BIKE OR THE PERPETRATOR EVER AGAIN. WHEN SOMEONE IS HAVING PROBLEMS AND GO THROUGH THE ALLEY OR SMASHED OVER HALF A DOZEN WINDOWS AND THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED IN THE ALLEY, YEAH, THAT WAS ON CCTV. WE HAD TO GO TO OUR INSURANCE . NOBODY EVER CAUGHT THE GUY, NOBODY EVER REALLY COULD DO MUCH. AND JUST RECENTLY, AGAIN, ON CCTV WE COULD WATCH AS SOMEBODY BROKE INTO OUR RECYCLE AND TRASH AND TOOK A GREAT, BIG DEFECATION ALL OVER EVERYTHING. I WOULD SAY, PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. >> MY NAME IS -- I LIVE IN CAPITAL DISTRICT 3. SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT PREVENT CRIME . SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT INCREASE SAFETY. SURVEILLANCE OF THIS KIND IS TOO POWERFUL AND TOO UNREGULATED TO BE IN THE HANDS OF A POLICE FORCE THAT HAS DEMONSTRATED THEY CAN'T EVEN DRIVE PROPERLY. THIS BILL IS A THINLY VEILED ATTEMPT FOR THIS BODY TO DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR FAILURES. MORE MONEY FOR MORE WEAPONS . MORE MONEY FOR MORE OUT OF TOUCH POLICING BY OUT-OF-STATE COPS . AND MILLIONS MORE FOR IT ALL. THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED MORE OF THAT WE DON'T HAVE IS BOLD LEADERS. WE ARE IN A NATIONAL STATE AND CITYWIDE FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS. DO YOU WANT US TO BE ASHAMED TO BE YOURS? I YIELD MY TIME. >> WE NOW HAVE CARL . AFTER CARL WILL BE LUCAS MOORE AND THEN TARA MILLER. >> MY NAME IS CARL., SEATTLE RESIDENT . I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY IN SEATTLE. THE DATA SHOWS CRIME IN SEATTLE IS GOING DOWN. YET SOMEHOW OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THIS IS THE TIME TO SELL OUT OUR PRIVACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS TO CORPORATIONS IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT HOW SAFE IS THAT? THE VENDORS REGULARLY SHARE DATA WITH ICE AND OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES BOND OUR STATE JURISDICTION. COUNSEL, IF YOU VOTE YES YOU WILL SERIOUSLY ENDANGER WOMEN SEEKING HEALTHCARE WHO COME HERE FROM STATES WHERE ABORTION IS ILLEGAL. YOU WILL BE AIDING AND ABETTING ICE. SURVEILLANCE VENDORS DON'T CARE ABOUT INNOCENT PEOPLE'S PRIVACY. THEY HAPPILY SELL YOUR DATA TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. WHETHER THAT'S AN ADVERTISING COMPANY OR THE STATE OF TEXAS. THEY ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY, NOT OUR SAFETY. COUNSEL, WHAT ARE YOU IN IT FOR? YOU CAN MAKE THE BRAVE CHOICE TO PROTECT OUR HUMAN RIGHTS OR YOU CAN BE COWARDS AND VOTE YES TO PROP UP OUR MAYOR'S FAILING REELECTION CAMPAIGN BY JOINING HIM AND PRETENDING TO BE TOUGH ON CRIME DURING AN ELECTION YEAR. I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU. >> WE NOW HAVE LUCAS MOORE AND THEN TARA. >> THE NEWS OF THE TRUMP'S ADMINISTRATION OVERSTEPPING IS A TUESDAY NIGHT FOR US. WE SEE IT OVER, AND OVER, AND OVER, AND OVER AGAIN. SANCTUARY CITY OAKLAND POLICE HAVE ALREADY FUNNELED SURVEILLANCE DATA INTO ICE. SO WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN HERE? WOULD THIS HARM THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF THE SPD GOT ICE TWO, OH MY GOD , THERE ARE TWO DOGS HERE. THERE'S SPD, WHICH IS ARTIE VIOLENT. AND THERE'S THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IF YOU SAY YES TO THIS BILL YOU WERE NOT ONLY FEEDING THE SPD , WHICH IS ARTIE VIOLENT, BUT YOU'RE FEEDING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHO PUBLIC -- PUBLICLY WANTS ALL OF US THAT IN THIS ROOM. VOTE NO. >> WE NOW HAVE TARA AND THEN AFTER TARA WE WILL HAVE, SORRY, MEDINA. AND THEN WE WILL GO TO ONLINE SPEAKERS. >> MY NAME IS TARA. THE DISTRICT 5. I AM ONE OF THE CHURCH COUNCILS CO-EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS. WE ARE -- POTENTIAL CITY -- SURVEILLANCE. WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DELAY THE EXPANSION. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS SWIFTLY DEMONIZED AND ATTACKED AS MANY COMMITTEES AS A CAN. BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY'S, LGBTQ COMMITTEES AND MIGRANT COMMUNITIES OF WHICH THE CHURCH COUNCIL IS IN ACCOUNTABLE RELATIONSHIP. PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED FOR THEIR SAFETY. AND AS A AND TRANS PERSON I AM TOO. THIS IS A TIME MORE THAN EVER MERCEDES WHO CLAIM TO PROVIDE CENTURY MUST TAKE THAT VALUE SERIOUSLY. IS OUR MORAL OBLIGATION IN AN IMMORAL TIME. IN THE FACE OF ANOTHER BUDGET DEFICIT AND FEDERAL CUTS TO COMMUNITY SERVICES $1 MILLION TO FURTHER SURVEIL OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT EMBODY THE CITIES VALUE OF CARE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. DELAY EXPANDING THE PILOT PROGRAM UNTIL IT CAN BE EVALUATED, CONDUCT MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM AND INVEST IN EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. >> MEDINA, WHO WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> IT AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M USING AN INTERPRETER TO SHARE MY TESTIMONY. I AM REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THIS ACCOMMODATION. I AM A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WITH THE CHURCH COUNCIL AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 5. I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE RUSHED EXPANSION OF THE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM . EXPANDING IT NOW IGNORES THE AGREED TO MAKE YOUR EVALUATION AND RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT MISUSE AND HIDDEN INTENTIONS. THIS PROGRAM THREATENS IRREPARABLE HARM TO RACIAL PROFILING THE DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETED BLACK, BROWN AND LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. THE CONSEQUENCES ARE REAL AND FRIGHTENING. WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PARENTS ARE AFRAID TO GO TO WORK, WHERE CHILDREN STOPPED GOING TO SCHOOL, WHERE ANYONE IS SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY, PROFILING AND DETENTION. OUR CITY HAS THE CHANCE TO LEAD DIFFERENTLY AND SHOW THAT WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE FREEDOM FOR THE ILLUSION OF SECURITY. I URGE YOU TO DELAY THE EXPANSION, CONDUCT MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ABOUT THIS IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM, AND INVEST IN EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY PROGRAMS. >> WE WILL MOVE TO REMOTE SPEAKERS. AS A REMINDER TO OUR REMOTE SPEAKERS TO PLEASE PRESS STAR 6 AFTER YOU HEAR THE MESSAGE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ON MUTED. WE WILL BEGIN WITH RED FOLLOWED BY ALPER, AND -- GO AHEAD, READ. >> IT AFTERNOON, SEATTLE VOTERS. SEATTLE CALLS ITSELF A SANCTUARY CITY. BUT ACTUALLY SPEAK LOUDER THAN LABELS. RECENTLY, WASHINGTON'S DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING WAS CAUGHT QUIETLY SHARING INFORMATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, UNDERMINING IMMIGRANT SAFETY. WITH THIS BILL WE ARE EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE MANY VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES WORK. THIS IS AN TRUE SANCTUARY. IT'S PERFORMATIVE SANCTUARY. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE ALIGNS MORE WITH PROJECT 2025 THAN WITH OUR CITY VALUES OF PRIVACY, SAFETY AND INCLUSION. OUR GENERAL ELECTION BALLOTS WILL BE ARRIVING SOON. REMEMBER, REMEMBER WHO VOTED FOR THIS BILL AND WHO STOOD AGAINST IT. SEATTLE HAS THE MOST POLICE OFFICERS AT THE CAPITAL ON JANUARY 6th. PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF IMMIGRANTS. IT'S UNDER THREAT FROM VIOLENT INSURRECTIONIST. REJECT THIS BILL, LOOK AT THE DATA AND STOP PRETENDING OTHERWISE. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALPER FOLLOWED BY -- GO AHEAD, ALPER. >> HI. MY NAME IS ALPER. I LIVE IN WEDGEWOOD. I WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENTS AGAINST THE ADOPTION OF COUNSEL BILL 121052 . IN MY OPINION THIS IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE PUSHING THIS SORT OF LEGISLATION THAT I'VE READ MULTIPLE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THIS BILL AND AM REALLY STRUGGLING TO SEE THE NEED TO ENACT THE BILL AS WRITTEN NOW. THE MAJOR POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE YOUR, SEATTLE'S OWN ORDINANCE IS RELATED TO SURVEILLANCE AND REQUIRES EVALUATION TO ENSURE THAT A PILOT IS WARRANTED TO BECOME PERMANENT. FOR THE DOCUMENTS I WAS ABLE TO ACCESS I AM NOT CONVINCED. THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS CERTAINLY ISN'T CONVINCED THAT THIS INVESTMENT IS WARRANTED AND DOES PROVIDE STRONG STEPS FORWARD FOR COMMUNITY POLICING. BACK MY CURRENT RESEARCH AND CRIMINOLOGY. OTHER COMMENTS OR NOTES THAT WE HAVE NOT EVEN REACHED THE TWO-YEAR MARK I URGE THE COUNCIL -- AND COMMUNITY CONCERNS -- I WANT TO CONVEY MY HEARTFELT THANKS TO CHRISTOPHER WILLIAMS FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE CITY. BRAVO. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS -- SHE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JILL FREBERG AND THEN ASHLEY. GO AHEAD. >> I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF THE REFERRAL SERVICE TO URGE COUNSEL TO VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION. AS A SERVICE PROVIDER TO OVER 30,000 ASIAN, HAWAIIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE EXPANSION OF THIS PROGRAM DOES THE OPPOSITE OF PROTECTING OUR IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES. EXPANDING THE DATA AND INFORMATION WE COLLECT ON CITY RESIDENCE TO A CLOUD-BASED SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM CREATES AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND POTENTIAL LOOPHOLE FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT TO TARGET COMMUNITIES OUR CITY HAS SWORN TO PROTECT. THIS NAÏVE AND IRRESPONSIBLE TO IGNORE THAT WE ARE IN A POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT WHERE FEDERAL AGENTS ARE ACTING WITH COMPLETE IMPUNITY TO ACCESS PRIVATE DATA TO CARRY OUT A MASS DEPORTATION AGENDA. WITHOUT ANY RESEARCH OR EVALUATION ON THE PROGRAM IMMIGRANTS OF THE CITY BELIEVE A VOTE TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM IS ANYTHING BUT AN EMPTY POLITICAL GESTURE TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE COST OF OUR PROTECTION. WE URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE EXPANSION. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JILL FREBERG, FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY. GO AHEAD, JILL. >> HI. I LIVE A BLOCK FROM GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE GARFIELD CAMPUS DID NOT PREVENT THE MURDER OF MURPHY PAIN, NOR HAS THAT FOOTAGE HELPED APPREHEND HIS KILLER . BUT THAT'S JUST ANECDOTAL. THERE ARE AMPLE STATISTICAL DATA INDICATING THAT SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS DO NOT REDUCE CRIME. HOWEVER, INSTALLING SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS DOES CREATE THE APPEARANCE THAT THE CITY IS DOING SOMETHING TO SO-CALLED REDUCE CRIME. BUT THE DATA TELLS US THAT THIS INVASION OF PRIVACY WILL NOT ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS AND THE CITY COUNCIL KNOWS IT. AT A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRAMPLING HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTIONS AND THREATENING TO WAGE WAR ON SO-CALLED SANCTUARY CITIES . THERE IS NO TRUE GUARANTEE THAT THE DATA AND FOOTAGE COLLECT BY THESE CAMERAS WILL END UP IN THE WRONG HANDS. THE CITY SHOULD BE PROTECTING ITS CITIZENS . NOT MAKING THEM EVEN MORE VULNERABLE. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ASHLEY FOLLOWED BY HOWARD GALE AND THEN CATHERINE DAWSON. GO AHEAD, ASHLEY. >> HI. I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT EXPAND AS PD'S USE OF CAMERAS. YOU HEAR A LOT OF COMMENTS AGAINST THIS LEGISLATION TODAY. IF YOU WALK INTO THIS CHAMBER WITH YOUR MIND MADE UP I JUST ASK THAT YOU OPEN UP A SMALL CRACK IN YOUR CERTAINTY AND CONSIDER OUR POSITION. I KNOW THAT THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE PLANNING TO VOTE YES WERE ELECTED ON PUBLIC SAFETY PLATFORM AND I KNOW YOU DO WANT TO DO RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY. I'M JUST ASKING, LOOK AT THE SITUATION WE ARE IN AND ASK IF IT'S THE SAME AS WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO. WE ARE WATCHING CRIME DROP, WE ARE WATCHING HOMICIDES DROP. AND NOW THE THREAT TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMES IN THE FORM OF REDUCTION TO OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. RIGHT NOW A CITY GOVERNMENT CANNOT GUARANTEE ANYONE SAFETY FROM OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN ONLY MITIGATE RISK. CCTV SURVEILLANCE IS AN INVASIVE AND POWERFUL AND DANGEROUS TOOL. AND IT WILL BE USED TO KIDNAP MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT WILL BE USED TO STOP PEOPLE FROM SEEKING HEALTHCARE. YOU CAN DO SO TODAY AND STAND -- >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HOWARD GALE, FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE DAWSON. GO AHEAD, HOWARD. >> IT AFTERNOON. HOWARD GALE. OVER 156,000 SEATTLEITES WHO ARE FOREIGN-BORN ARE NOW UNDER IMMINENT THREAT IN AN AMERICA WHERE SEATTLE IS HIGH IN THE LIST OF CITIES THAT OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO GO TO WAR WITH. THOSE -- KIDNAPPING, DETENTION OR DEPORTATION WILL STILL FACE THE DAILY FEAR AND TRAUMA FROM SIMPLE ROUTINE ACTS LIKE GOING TO WORK, GOING SHOPPING, TAKING THE CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, GOING TO CHURCH, AND ENJOYING CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS FESTIVALS. NEVER KNOWING WHEN OR WHERE THEY MIGHT BE ABDUCTED. THEY AND THEIR LOVED ONES WILL FACE LIFE ALTERING TRAUMAS. THE QUESTION IS, IN THE COMING YEARS, DO WE WANT TO END UP LIKE THE AMERICANS OF THE 1940s WHO CAN ONLY SAY, WE WERE GOOD, WE DID NOT PARTAKE IN SENDING FOLKS TO INTERNMENT CAMPS. OR DO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO PREVENT FOLKS FROM BEING TAKEN ? UNDER SUCH DIRE CIRCUMSTANCES THIS COUNSEL IS SHAMEFULLY CONSIDERING LEGISLATION TO INCREASE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, FURTHER ENDANGERING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FOLKS RATHER THAN CONSIDERING LEGISLATION TO PROTECT. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CATHERINE. CATHERINE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY KATIE GENTRY AND FLORA WRIGHT. GO AHEAD, CATHERINE. >> HI, I'M CATHERINE. I'M A RENTER IN DISTRICT 3 AND I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE. I LIVE IN CAPITOL HILL AND PREVIOUSLY THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, THE PRIMARY AREAS -- BEING PROPOSED. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT EXPANDS THE POWERS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WILL FURTHER DISCRIMINATION. PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE. IT FEELS ESPECIALLY URGENT AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE NOTED BECAUSE WE ARE -- VIOLENCE, INCLUDING ICE ABDUCTIONS AND -- OUR OWN CITY RECENTLY AS WELL . YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ANTI- LGBTQ POLICE VIOLENCE AND -- ARE AFFECTED. AND THE SHARING OF DATA THROUGH THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND MEDICAID. WE CAN AFFORD RIGHT NOW TO PUT ANY MORE POWER OR TRUST IN THE HANDS OF THE POLICE STATE. I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE NO ON EXPANDING -- SURVEILLANCE. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KATIE GENTRY FOLLOWED BY FLORA WRIGHT. GO AHEAD, KATIE. >> MY NAME IS KATIE. I LIVE IN D6. SURVEILLANCE AND POLICING DO NOT KEEP US SAFE. THEY ACTUALLY MAKE US MORE UNSAFE AND CAUSE SIGNIFICANT HARM IN OUR COMMITTEE. CIVIL LIBERTIES GROUPS HAVE PROVED THAT WASHINGTON PLEASE HAVE SHARED SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH THE FEDS . WE ARE IN A POLITICAL CLIMATE NOW WHERE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES ARE ACTIVELY BEING VIOLATED. WE DON'T NEED EMPTY WORDS WERE FALSE PROMISES , OR SHALLOW VALUES. WE NEED YOU TO TAKE BOLD AND BRAVE ACTION TO CHALLENGE THE STATUS QUO AND WHITES OF PRIVACY, AND TO HOLD FIRM AND VALUES FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY CARE AND SUPPORT. SHOWING THAT YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. SHOWS THAT YOU OPPOSE ICE IN KIDNAPPING OUR NEIGHBORS. PROVE IT BY TAKING ACTION NOW TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. VOTE NO ON INCREASED SURVEILLANCE. WE DO NOT WANT MORE SURVEILLANCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FLORA WRIGHT. FLORA WILL BE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL WILL MARTH AND THEN AIDEN CAROL. GO AHEAD, FLORIDA. THERE YOU GO. >> HELLO. HELLO. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3 CALLING TO OPPOSE EXPANSION OF MASS VIOLENCE. MORE SURVEILLANCE HELPS TRUMP TARGET SEATTLE'S LGBTQ, ABORTION SEEKERS, AND EVERYONE'S RIGHT TO PRIVACY. -- HAS BEEN USED HUNDREDS OF TIMES TO HUNT IMMIGRANTS AND -- ACCESS TO NATIONWIDE SEARCHES THAT CAN STILL MAKE DIRECT REQUESTS THROUGH THE EMAIL SERVER WITHOUT PUBLIC OVERSIGHT. MEANWHILE, THE FEDS CAN TAKE CONTROL OF DISEASE -- THE SAME COMPANY AS PD USES. AS PD HAS A HISTORY OF ABUSING SURVEILLANCE TO SPY ON PERSONS IN 2020 AND STOCKING FOR ROMANTIC PARTNERS. LAST MONTH THEY USED CCTV TO RACIALLY PROFILE INTEREST AN INNOCENT MAN AND TELL HIM FOR A WEEK. NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS OF OBSERVED VIOLENT CRIME. -- RESEARCH -- RECENTLY CLAIMED THEY WERE DUPED BY THE ATLANTIC -- BOARD MEMBER THAT -- [ INAUDIBLE ] LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND VOTE NO. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL. MICHAEL WILL BE FOLLOWED BY AIDEN CAROL GO AHEAD, MICHAEL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MICHAEL. I'M A RENTER IN D3 AND AM CALLING TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF SPD SURVEILLANCE CAPABILITIES. CRIMINALIZATION DOESN'T MAKE US SAFER AND IT FEELS PARTICULARLY MYOPIC TO IMPLEMENT SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY WHEN JUST YESTERDAY SUPREME COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF LEAVING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT FOR PROTECTING LOS ANGELES RESIDENTS ON THE BASIS OF RACIAL PROFILING. THIS MORNING THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY SAID THAT TRUMP WOULD LOVE TO SEND ARMED TROOPS INTO EVERY DEMOCRAT RUN CITY IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT DO YOU THINK THESE TOOLS WILL BE USED FOR AND BY WHOM? HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WILL BE USED IN A YEAR? WHAT EXACTLY WILL ANY OF THIS KEEP SAFE? REALIZATION AND SURVEILLANCE OF POOR PEOPLE , BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS OF IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, NONE OF THIS DOES ANYTHING TO IMPROVE SAFETY OR QUALITY OF LIFE. I SADLY CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THINKING THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. START THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN LEVERAGE YOUR POSITION AND POWER TO PROTECT VULNERABLE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY AND FIGHT BACK. THANK YOU. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP WILL BE AIDEN CAROL. GO AHEAD, AIDEN. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> WE NEED TO REPAIR THE SOCIAL FABRIC. THE CONCEPT THAT -- IS AN OLD ONE. BUT IT IS THE BASIC REALITY. WHEN WE SEE THAT NEITHER POLICE NOR SURVEILLANCE CAN PREVENT OR RESPOND TO CRIME. THIS PROPOSAL WAS WRONG BEFORE TRUMP. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE EXTRA OBVIOUS NOW. I WOULD THINK WE CAN POINT OUT, I'VE MOVED UP THE LIST HERE BECAUSE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SEEMINGLY HAD TO GO BACK TO WORK AND THE STALLING DID NOT GO UNNOTICED. AND HE LED THE ATTACK ON THE BLM GARDEN. I'M SURE THAT AP AND CHRIS HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK ON HOMELESSNESS IN THE LAST DECADE TO THOUSANDS OF DEAD HOMELESS -- >> WE WILL MOVE BACK INTO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. WE HAVE -- AND CHARLOTTE. AND THEN COURTNEY. >> MY NAME IS CALEB. I'M A LOCAL UNITED METHODIST PASTOR HERE IN KING COUNTY AND I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF SOME OF MY FELLOW FAITH LEADERS IN MIGRANT COMMUNITIES. AS A PASTOR I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WALKING ALONGSIDE AND PROVIDING PASTORAL CARE FOR MIGRANT COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT KING COUNTY. THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY DEEPLY FEARFUL ABOUT THE RISK OF BEING DETAINED AND DENIED DUE PROCESS. AS WE GO THROUGH THE GROCERY STORE , AS THEY WALKED THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL, AS THEY GO TO WORK OR EVEN GO TO CHURCH. HOW MUCH MORE FEEL FULL WILL THEY BE KNOWING THAT THERE IS INCREASED SURVEILLANCE THROUGHOUT SEATTLE THAT COULD BE USED TO TARGET THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES ? AS A PASTOR AND A PERSON OF FAITH , I TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY SEATTLE'S VALUE OF PROVIDING SANCTUARY AND I URGE YOU TO ALSO TAKE THIS VALUE SERIOUSLY BY DELAYING THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT PROGRAM UNTIL IT CAN BE PROPERLY EVALUATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> AFTER CHARLOTTE WE HAVE COURTNEY. >> I JUST WANT TO TELL A STORY ABOUT LIKE IN ORANGE COUNTY , THE HOME DEPOT CAMERAS . THEY ARE BEING USED TO HELP ICE . WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SEEKING -- SEEING LOCAL OFFICERS COLLUDING WITH ICE. LIKE THE CALLER SAID, HIS PROFILING PEOPLE . EVEN THOUGH THE SUPREME COURT DID NOT SUPPORT THE LOWER COURT RULING WE KNOW THAT IT IS NOT RIGHT AND WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE ESSENTIALLY CITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A STANCE OF NONCOOPERATION. WHY ARE WE MAKING THINGS EASIER FOR PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW WANT TO HURT OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK THAT WE WANT TO GET READY FOR BEING INVADED BY THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. >> WE NOW HAVE COURTNEY. AFTER COURTNEY WILL BE EMMY . >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3. I'M ON THE 43rd BORDER RECORDS, SPEAKING OF MY PERSONAL -- I'M OPPOSING THE EXPANSION OF -- CRIME CENTER. THE SCALE OF THE EXPANSION IS CONCERNING. I AGREE WITH MOST OF MY FELLOW PUBLIC COMMENTERS HERE TODAY. WE SEE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS IGNORING THE LAWS ON INK AND PAPER. I DON'T TRUST THEM TO NOT SCRAPE THE DATA. I DON'T TRUST THEM TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE DATA COLLECTION . SEATTLE IS ALREADY ON THE WATCHLIST FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AGAIN, WHY ARE WE MAKING IT EASIER? BOB KETTLE, BOB SAKA, YOU'RE BOTH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WERE CAPABLE OF AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF NOW? OR ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US? HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE OPPOSING THIS? >> THANK YOU. >> FOLLOWING EMMY WILL BE -- >> A FORMER MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TASK FORCE AND LEGAL SYSTEM REALIGNMENT THAT WAS TASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. THE RECOMMENDATION REMAINED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WAS TO USE EXTREME CAUTION ON THE USE OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND ALGORITHMIC -- THEY WILL HAVE A DISPARATE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON COMMITTEES OF COLOR AND OTHER MARGINALIZED COMMITTEES. THE RECOGNITION SOUGHT BY THE COUNCIL, WITH WHICH WE SPENT A WHOLE YEAR DELIBERATING IN EARNEST, THIS COUNSEL SEEMED TO BE RUSHING TOWARD A FURTHER EXPANSION OF CRIMINALIZATION TECH WITHOUT EVEN INVESTIGATING ITS EFFICACY OR HARMS . AT THE VERY MOMENT THE FEDERAL FORCES ARE FORCED TO STEP IN AND OVERRIDE LOCAL LAWS AND POLICIES PROTECTING IMMIGRANTS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE. THE STAKE CANNOT BE HIGHER. ASK THE COUNCIL TO WAIT ON THE SURVEILLANCE BILLS UNTIL STUDIES HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FOR THE PROS AND CONS. AND THROUGH THE COURTS TO SEEK OUT LIMITED EXECUTIVE POWER AND -- >> WE HAVE JEFF AND THEN DAVID. >> JEFF , THEN DAVID, THE NICOLE. I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME. IT STARTS WITH A B. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI THERE. MY NAME IS JEFF. I CONTINUOUSLY COME TO THESE THINGS TO HOPEFULLY SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT FEELS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. I HAVE LIVED IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN CID. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS . I LIVE IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT , SPECIFICALLY THE MOST CRIME I SEE IS PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN 23rd. AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CATCH ANYTHING ON CAMERA. IT JUST SEEMS SO BACKWARD TO INSTALL CAMERAS IN WHAT IS OTHERWISE A PRETTY PEACEFUL, RESIDENTIAL AREA. I THINK THERE'S A STREET CAMERA RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MY SUBSIDIZED HOUSING THAT PRETTY MUCH JUST LOOKS IN MY WINDOW. I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE SAME THINGS IT'S SEEING AND I HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE THING THAT'S CONCERNING. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ROLLED UP INTO THIS AND PUT ON A STRAIGHT PATH TO THE PRISON SYSTEM. >> IT'S DAVID, THEN IT'S NICOLE. AND THEN BJ LAST. >> MY NAME IS DAVID. I'M ASKING YOU TO OPPOSE THE SURVEILLANCE PROPOSAL. FIRSTLY, THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER RINCK FOR HAVING OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS DEMONSTRATE TO YOUR FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS HOW DAMAGING FORCING THIS THERE WOULD BE. IT SHOULD GIVE PAUSE TO ANY COUNCILMEMBERS CLAIMING TO CARE ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS. A FASCIST AUTHORITARIAN IS CREATING A POLICE AND SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT WAS CREATED BY BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES AND THIS COUNSEL IS TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH A SORT OF DIET PROPOSAL. I.C.E. AGENTS HAVE ALREADY SHOWN AN ABILITY TO SIDESTEP SANCTUARY CITY PROTECTIONS AND WASHINGTON AGENCIES, LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING, HAVE ALREADY COLLABORATED WITH I.C.E.. I.C.E. IS ALREADY ABDUCTING OUR NEIGHBORS AND THESE ASSAULTS WILL ONLY INTENSIFY AS FASCISM BECOMES MORE ENTRENCHED DUE TO BODIES LIKE THIS FAILING TO MEET THE MOMENT. AS THE ACLU AND MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND SPEAKERS HAVE POINTED OUT, SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT REDUCE CRIME. YOUR STRIPPING PEOPLE OF THEIR RIGHTS TO PRIVACY. THIS WILL DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT MY NEIGHBORS, MY ON HOUSE NEIGHBORS SUFFER DAILY. THE CITY HAS FAILED TO BOTH LISTEN TO AND ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> NICOLE? >> AFTER NICOLE IT WILL BE BJ AND THEN -- >> IT AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS NICOLE. EARLIER YOU SAID OUR PARKS ARE OUR COMMENTS. IT'S WHERE WE GO FOR SOLITUDE. I GO TO THEM FOR COMMUNITY. -- WHAT WE CAN BE AS A CITY TOGETHER. I MOVED TO SEATTLE 11 YEARS AGO. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO CITY HALL UNTIL YESTERDAY. AND NOW AGAIN TODAY. TO CARRY A MESSAGE TO YOU. OUR MESSAGE. SEATTLE HAS A P PROBLEM. PEOPLE POINTING -- TO PART FROM PREVIOUSLY SAFE SPACES. I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE EFFECT OF CONSTANT CAMERAS THAT THEY CAN HAVE ON COMMUNITY. I HAVE HEARD HOW SEATTLE USERS FEEL LESS WELCOME IN THEIR FAVORITE PLACE TO COMMUNE . I HAVE TALKED TO THE I.C.E. CREAM VENDORS WHOSE SALES ARE DOWN DUE TO LESS PEDESTRIANS . TODAY'S VOTE WILL NOT REFLECT ON YOU LATELY. WILL YOU ALIGN YOURSELF PUBLICLY WITH THE FASCIST REGIME SWEEPING OUR NATION OR REALIGN SEATTLE WITH OTHER INTERNATIONAL CITIES INVESTING IN UPLIFTING THE VERY COMMUNITIES THIS VOTE WOULD HARM? VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU. >> BJ . AFTER BJ WILL BE -- AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO ONLINE SPEAKERS PICK >> I'M HERE SPEAKING AGAINST THE EXPANSION OF CCTV. I WANT TO WAIT -- MAKE ONE THING CLEAR. COUNCIL MEMBERS KEEP SAYING THAT CCTV FOOTAGE IS ONLY STORED FOR FIVE DAYS. THAT IS GROSSLY INCORRECT. IT ALLOWS IT TO BE STORED FOR 30 DAYS. CLAIMING IT IS FIVE IS MISLEADING THE PUBLIC. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE FIVE YOU CAN AMEND THE BILL TODAY TO CHANGE IT TO FIVE. OTHERWISE, STOP MISLEADING THE PUBLIC. NEXT, PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS DATA GETTING USED BY I.C.E. AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. WE KNOW THAT. SPD HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH I.C.E.. THEY ATTACK PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO PREVENT I.C.E. FROM KIDNAPPING SOMEONE TO MAKE SURE I.C.E. COULD . AMENDMENT A EVEN SPECIFIES THAT SEATTLE WORKS WITH THE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES ON CRIMINAL MATTERS. WE KNOW HOW THIS PLAYS OUT. I.C.E. JUST ASKS FOR INFORMATION, SWEARING AT SOMETHING CRIMINAL, AND SPD HANDS IT OVER TO THEM. THERE IS NOTHING AGAINST THAT HAPPENING. SURVEILLANCE IS IN SAFETY. WE HAVE OVER 20 YEARS OF STUDIES. AND IF IT WAS, THIS WOULD BE GOING TO BALLARD, -- NOT THE CID. >> WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER AND THEN WE WILL GO TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> HI, I AM A RESIDENT WORKER AND HISTORIAN IN THE CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. I OPPOSE THE EXPANSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. YOU PUT 20 CAMERAS ON NEARLY EVERY INTERSECTION IN THE CID. PEOPLE CAN ENTER OR LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT BEING SURVEILLED. YOU DID THIS TO A POOR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY THAT REMEMBERS THE RACIST SURVEILLANCE OF THE 20th CENTURY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLED JAPANESE-AMERICANS BEFORE SENDING THEM TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND THE COPS HAD BOOKS OF CHINESE MUG SHOTS TO PROFILE AND JUSTIFY POLICE VIOLENCE. SURVEILLANCE AND POLICING DOES NOT MAKE MY COMMUNITY SAFE. IN FACT, YOU'RE ACTIVELY PUTTING US IN HARMS WAY. BECAUSE THE CCTV DATA IS NOT STORED IN WASHINGTON OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IS BEING PUT AT RISK OF I.C.E. THE SURVEILLANCE EXPANSION ROLLS OUT THE RED CARPET FOR I.C.E. TO KIDNAP OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. DO WE NOT DESERVE SAFETY? THESE DO NOT EXPAND THE SURVEILLANCE NETWORK TODAY OR EVER. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT REMOTE SPEAKERS WILL BE -- KAISER. >> A REMINDER TO PLEASE, JAZZ HANDS, SNAPS BETWEEN SPEAKERS, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THAT WE PROCEED IN A WAY THAT RESPECTS EVERYBODY'S TIME AND COMMENT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, JODI PICK >> YES. AND I WILL REMIND THE REMOTE SPEAKERS TO PRESS STAR 6 WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR MESSAGE. OUR NEXT THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS ARE KAISER, ALLEGRA, AND HANNAH. GO AHEAD. >> HI. I AM A CITIZEN OF DISTRICT 3 REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL FOR HOLLINGSWORTH AND I WANT TO AVOID THE EXPANSION OF CCTV AND [ INAUDIBLE ] WE ALREADY LIVE UNDER THE SURVEILLANCE STATE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO OUR TRAFFIC CAM FOOTAGE AND USE IT TO TRACK PEOPLE. [ INAUDIBLE ] IT IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL MISUSE, IT'S HAPPENING NOW, TODAY. AND EXPANDING THE STUDENTS EFFORT THAT ALLOWS I.C.E. TO FUNCTION AND PUTTING ANY OF THAT DATA IN A CLOUD SERVICE IS THE LAST THING WE SHOULD BE DOING. WE SHOULD RESTRICT THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY SO THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND OTHER STATES CANNOT USE THEM AGAINST VULNERABLE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE A RESPONSE BUILDING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT OUR PRIVACY AND SAFETY IN THIS MOMENT. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO RISE TO THE OCCASION. LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT NOW THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO THE SANCTUARY CITY IS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALLEGRA FOLLOWED BY HANNAH JONES. GO AHEAD. >> MY NAME IS ALLEGRA. SEATTLE DISTRICT 7. [ INAUDIBLE ] LET'S CONSIDER WHO ELSE OPPOSES THIS TO URGE THE COUNCIL TALL THE PILOT PROGRAM. IN THE CITY THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS REPORT HAS SAID RESEARCH HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED THE SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES REDUCE PERSISTENT FELONIES AND VIOLENT CRIMES. THE WORKING GROUP [ INAUDIBLE ] THE SALE RENTERS COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION STATES THAT THE COMMUNITY NUMBERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST EXPANSION AND IMMEDIATE CONCERNS OF ACTORS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, LIKE I SAID, THIS USING SURVEILLANCE INFORMATION. THE CITY IS REACHING ITS COMMITMENT TO SCRUTINIZE SURVEILLANCE, AND THE IMPACT ON CIVIL RIGHTS DURING A TWO-YEAR PILOT FOR CONTINUATION OR EXPANSION. IN ADDITION, OVER 60 COMMITTEE GROUPS OPPOSE, INCLUDING THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON WHO HAD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RUSHED THE DECISION. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HANNAH JONES, WILL BE FOLLOWED BY NICO . AND THEN ASHLEY FORD. GO AHEAD, HANNAH. HANNAH, HE PRESSED STAR 6 ? OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NICO, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY FORD. GO AHEAD, NICO. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO ASHLEY FORD, FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE. GO AHEAD, ASHLEY FORD . >> [ INAUDIBLE ] EARLIER THIS YEAR MOST OF YOU TOOK QUICK ACTION TO SIGN ONTO AN ORDINANCE DECLARING SEATTLE TO BE A WELCOMING CITY FOR LGBTQ PEOPLE AND FOR GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. SO WE KNOW THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS COMING FOR PEOPLE. YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS COMING FOR SEATTLE. WE ARE TAKING STEPS TO COLLECT INFORMATION IS GOING TO PUT US IN HARMS WAY. SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AT ALL WELCOMING. I REALLY NEED YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT TO AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES THIS IS NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS IS DATA COLLECTION THAT'S GOING TO BE WESTERNIZED AGAINST US. IF THE FEDERAL ADMINISTERED AND KEEPS HEADING IN THE DIRECTION THAT IS. AND WE KNOW THAT IT PROBABLY WILL. YOU CAN SEE THAT WASHINGTON HAS LAWS IN PLACE TO PROTECT US FROM THIS PEER BUT THE FACT IS, WE KNOW THESE LAWS DON'T PROTECT US AS MUCH AS WE ONCE THOUGHT. THESE DON'T DO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THE JOB FOR THEM. THESE PROTECT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS AND DELAY THIS EXPANSION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE FILARDI, FOLLOWED BY EDITH EVERGREEN AND THEN SCOTT STERNBERG. GO AHEAD, STEPHANIE. >> HI. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE AND I WORK AT PRENATAL SUPPORT WASHINGTON WHERE WE SUPPORT FAMILIES NAVIGATING THE CHALLENGES OF NEW PARENT. -- FOUNDATION NONPROFITS PROMOTE THE DIGNITY AND RESPECT OF LGBTQ PLUS WITHIN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. WE STAND IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO ANY EXPANSION OF PUBLIC SURVEILLANCE IN OUR CITY. WE ARE ALREADY FACING EXTERNAL PRESSURES. -- LIVE IN A SOCIETY [ INAUDIBLE ] INCREASING SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT MAKE THEM SAFER. IT -- [ INAUDIBLE ] STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE IN A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT YOU IS NOT CRIMINAL. BUT SURVEILLANCE REINFORCES THOSE NARRATIVES. IT INCREASES FEAR AND DETERS PEOPLE FROM CARE AND [ INAUDIBLE ] WE CANNOT BE COMPLICIT IN BUILDING SYSTEMS THAT MONITOR RATHER THAN NURTURE. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS EDITH EVERGREEN, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY SCOTT STERNBERG. GO AHEAD, EDITH. EDITH, YOU MAY NEED TO PRESS STAR 6. OKAY. GO AHEAD, EDITH. I SEE YOU. >> OKAY. I LIVED IN SEATTLE FOR OVER 50 YEARS . I STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO ON THE EXPANSION FOR THOSE CAMERAS. I BELIEVE THEY ARE A VIOLATION OF AMERICAN CITIZEN RIGHT TO PRIVACY. THE CREEPING NATURE OF SURVEILLANCE MAPS A CONSTANT AND VIGILANT OBSERVATION OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS WITH NO FUTURE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE CITY [ INAUDIBLE ] I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE IS A BUDGET DEFICIT AND PROGRAMS FOR THOSE IN NEED HAVE BEEN CUT. I DON'T SEE HOW THE CITY COUNCIL CAN JUSTIFY THE FUNDS NECESSARY FOR THIS PROJECT. THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT -- GIVEN BY THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT DO NOT JUSTIFY THE USE OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERA OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT STERNBERG. SCOTT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JESSICA CASTELLANOS AND THEN LIZ WALTERS. GO AHEAD, SCOTT. SCOTT, PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. >> HELLO? >> HELLO. >> I OPPOSE THE SURVEILLANCE AND ASK EACH OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS TO REJECT THIS PROPOSED EXPANSION. MY NAME IS SCOTT STERNBERG OF BEACON HILL., PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCHER AND A FAMILY THERAPIST. I BRING THAT BACKGROUND TO MY STANCE HERE. SURVEILLANCE IS A TOOL OF SOCIAL OPPRESSION AND STATE VIOLENCE. SURVEILLANCE IS USED TO CRIMINALIZE COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, AND CREATE PRETEXT TO ARREST, INCARCERATE , DEPORT , KIDNAP AND DISAPPEAR PEOPLE. THESE DANGERS WERE HIGHLIGHTED BY MANY IN PUBLIC COMMENTS PREVIOUSLY WHEN THE PILOT PROJECT USING THESE TOOLS WAS FIRST PROPOSED. HOWEVER, YOU, THE COUNCIL, IGNORED IT AND VOTED TO APPROVE THE PILOT. I ASK THAT YOU AGAIN VOTE NO. THE RESEARCH DEMONSTRATES , OVER AND OVER, THAT CCTV DOES NOT -- >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JESSICA CASTELLANOS , FOLLOWED BY LIZ WALTERS AND THEN CODY D. GO AHEAD, JESSICA. >> IT AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBER'S. MY NAME IS JESSICA CASTELLANOS. I'M SPEAKING AS A SEATTLE DISTRICT TO RESIDENT AND MANAGING DIRECTOR OF KIDS NEEDED DEFENSE, WHICH PROVIDES SERVICES TO UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN IN OUR CITY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON EXPANDING THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT . EXPANDING JUST THREE MONTHS IN THE EVALUATION IS PREMATURE AND DANGEROUS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TRIED TO UNLAWFULLY DEPORT GUATEMALAN CHILDREN IN FEDERAL CUSTODY AND WARNED OF MORE INVOLUNTARY -- IMPACTING CHILDREN IN WASHINGTON. SALES CONTRACT ONLY INCREASES THE RISKS WITHOUT SAFEGUARD SENSITIVE DATA IS VULNERABLE. SALE NEEDS TO LIVE UP TO ITS VALUES AS A WELCOMING CITY. THESE POSITIVE EXPANSION AND PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIZ WALTERS, FOLLOWED BY CODY D AND CHAPMAN. GO AHEAD, LIZ. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS LIZ WALTERS. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO REJECT THE PROPOSED CCTV EXPANSION. FOR MY EXPENSE AS A CASE MANAGER -- AND CENTRAL DISTRICT RESIDENT. THERE ARE DANGEROUS INTENTIONS FOR SP AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USE SURVEILLANCE FOUR. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WOULD BE A GRAVE MISUSE OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT COULD INSTEAD BE USED TO ASHLEY PREVENT THE CRIME AND SURVEILLANCE TO ADDRESS. SURVEILLANCE DOESN'T STOP CRIME, SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT PREVENT CRIME. PREVENT CRIME BY ENDING POVERTY, HUNGER, HOMELESSNESS AND VARIOUS FORMS OF SOCIETAL NEGLECT. EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE IN OUR CITY ONLY -- HYPER PLACING POOR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. AGAIN, THIS WILL NOT STOP CRIME. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHAT STOPS CRIME. FEED PEOPLE, HOUSE PEOPLE, GIVE PEOPLE JOBS , GIVE PEOPLE MEDICAID, EXPAND PUBLIC TRANSIT AND MAKE IT FREE. GIVE PEOPLE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEIR TIME. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CODY D, FOLLOWED BY OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER IN THIS GROUP, CHAPMAN. GO AHEAD, CODY. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS CODY. I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW IT WILL DEEPLY, NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. I'M ASKING THAT WE DO NOT EXPAND CITY SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND INSTEAD INVEST IN MORE EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY . MANY PEOPLE IN SEATTLE, DESPITE THEIR OWN BEST EFFORTS AND THE EFFORTS OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, ARE STILL LACKING ADEQUATE SHELTER, FOOD, MEDICAL CARE AND OTHER ESSENTIAL BASIC NEEDS . THE CITY WILL BE INVESTING INEFFICIENTLY IN THEIR COMMUNITY'S BY PUTTING MORE RESOURCES INTO SURVEILLANCE WHILE PEOPLE STILL SUFFER WHILE THEY LIVE WITHOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO SURVIVE , THRIVE AND EVEN DIE. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN INCREASED SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT ACTUALLY DECREASE VIOLENT CRIME. ALTHOUGH, IT WOULD MAKE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS EVEN MORE VULNERABLE TO EXPLOITATION AND HARM BY THOSE WHO HAVE ILLEGITIMATE ACTIONS OR USAGE OF THIS INFORMATION WITH THESE PROPOSED CHANGES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP IS KAREN. PLEASE PRESS STAR 6. HELLO. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS KAREN. I OPPOSE THE ADDITIONAL CCTV SURVEILLANCE . I AM ANXIOUS AND SO MY WORDS MIGHT COME OUT A LITTLE BIT GARBLED. I WOULD URGE YOU TO REFLECT ON HOW THIS CALL AND MEETING HAS GONE SO FAR. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE HAS BEEN IN APPROVAL OF THIS SO FAR. SO I WOULD REALLY URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN YOUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> WE WILL GO BACK TO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. WE WILL START WITH SUE CADE, JOE FOX AND THEN -- >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SUE. I AM 80 YEARS IN SEATTLE NOW. JUST HAD MY BIRTHDAY. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE CID COMMUNITY . I AM A MEMBER OF THE CID COALITION. ALSO KNOWN AS -- NOT HOTELS. I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT OUR COMMUNITY GOES WAY BACK. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DESTRUCTION. NOW WAS NOT THE TIME TO PUT IN SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PRESSING NEEDS. WE NEED HOUSING . LIKE MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID, LAKE -- LET'S MAKE THIS AN AMAZING SEATTLE. I'VE GROWN UP HERE FOR 80 YEARS. I GRADUATED FROM GARFIELD. NOT JUST THE CID BUT ALL OF SEATTLE . LET'S CANCEL THE SURVEILLANCE. >> WE HAVE JOAN AND THEN CROW. >> HI. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR COMMENTS, SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL. I AM JOAN. I'M GOING TO SPEAK IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY AS A TRANS PERSON. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEEN THE TRUMP DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE LABEL MY COMMUNITY AS MENTALLY DEFECTIVE AS A WAY OF TRYING TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS. AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS DIRECTLY WITH TRANS REFUGEES WHO FLED TO THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE PERSECUTION THEY FACE BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT , AND IN CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND STATES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY , THIS EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE WOULD DIRECTLY PUT THEM AT RISK. RIGHT NOW I HAVE HELD THEM IN MY ARMS AS THEY HAVE CRIED. AS THEY HAVE FELT SCARED. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFER. BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. THIS WILL PUT MY COMMUNITY AT RISK . IT WILL PUT THE MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR CITY IN HARM'S WAY. I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR INTENTION AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE YOUR MIND. THANK YOU. >> WE NOW HAVE CROW. AFTER CROW WILL BE BRENT LEPPERT AND THEN DAN HOUSE. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS CROW AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4. I AM HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO TO EXPAND THE SURVEILLANCE OF SPD'S CCTV CAMERAS. I.C.E. CAN AND WILL GAIN ACCESS TO THIS SURVEILLANCE . AFTER THE RECENT SUPREME COURT RULING THEY WILL USE THE CCTV FOOTAGE FOR MORE RACIAL PROFILING AND RACIAL TARGETING OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. SEATTLE IS KNOWN ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS A CENTURY CITY FOR IMMIGRANTS AND FOR THOSE SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE CARE, FOR THOSE SEEKING GENDER FORMING CARE, AND APPROVING THIS EXPANSION WOULD PUT ALL OF THESE COMMUNITIES IN HARM'S WAY. AND I'M URGING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE -- >> HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM BRENT LAMPERT. I JUST MOVED BACK TO THE CENTRAL DISTRICT A FEW WEEKS AGO AFTER SPENDING TWO YEARS IN D.C., WHERE HE WORKED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER BOTH BIDEN AND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S. I'M NOT AGAINST SURVEILLANCE AND GENERAL ALL THE TIME. I WORKED IN NATIONAL SECURITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IT IS NEEDED. I DO NOT TRUST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO NOT GO AFTER THIS DATA . AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD PURSUE IT UNTIL THERE IS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO PROTECT SEATTLE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY DO COME AFTER US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> HI. MY NAME IS DAN HOUSE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 5 AND I WORK IN DISTRICT 6. EXPANDING VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT MAKE THE CITY SAFER . ON MY WAY HERE TODAY I WAS WAITING FOR THE BUS , AND AS HAPPENS SOMETIMES IN THE CITY, I WAS ACCOSTED BY ONE OF MY ON HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS WHO IS EXPERIENCING ADDICTION. IT WAS UPSETTING AND IT MADE ME FEEL UNSAFE. HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT EXPANDING VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WOULD NOT PREVENT INCIDENTS LIKE THIS. WHAT WILL PREVENT THAT IS SPENDING OUR LIMITED RESOURCES ON HOUSING , ON ADDICTION TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND EXPANDING VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WILL MAKE THE CITY LESS SAFE. IT WILL MAKE ALL OF US LESS SAFE . ESPECIALLY OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, OUR ON HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS AND OUR TRANS NEIGHBORS. AND PEOPLE SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH. I URGE YOU , IN THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE TERMS, TO VOTE NO ON THESE BILLS. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE CHRIS LITTLE HOUSE AND THEN BILL CLIFFORD AND CAROLINE. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS CHRIS ROJAS. I HAVE WORKED IN COMPUTER VISION FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. AS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD OF COMPUTER VISION AND I'M HERE TO WARN YOU THAT IT IS ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS AT THIS POINT IN HISTORY TO TURN SEATTLE INTO A MESS SURVEILLANCE STATE. WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED CCTV CAMERAS. THE TECHNOLOGY USED TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THE MOVEMENT OF EVERYONE , AND TO BE ABLE TO ROLL THAT BACK IN TIME TO DETERMINE WHERE ANYONE HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST HOWEVER LONG IT WAS DEVELOPED AND TESTED AS A TOOL OF WAR IN IRAQ. AND WHAT THE THEY DO WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AFTER IT WAS DONE WITH THE WAR? THEY BROUGHT IT TO U.S. CITIES IN 2016 AND THE ACLU TOLD POLICE TO STOP USING IT. SEATTLE IS A LIBERAL STRONGHOLD WHO HAS ROUTINELY STOOD UP TO TRUMP. THEY WANT TO INSTALL A TOOL OF WAR AGAINST ITS PEOPLE? A MESS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THAT CAN BE TAKEN OVER BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TARGET ANYONE, LIKE THE GOVERNOR, THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU. DO NOT INSTALL. >> WE HAVE BILL CLIFFORD AND THEN CAROLINE MUELLER. IS BILL HERE? AND THEN CAROLINE MUELLER AND GARRETT JOHNSON. >> AND PEOPLE LINE UP OR SPEAK FOR THE PERSON FRONT ME? >> IS REALLY HARD TO HEAR THE NAMES OUT THERE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW. CAN YOU TALK LOUDER? TURN YOUR MIKE UP. >> ESSENTIALLY COMMENTS THIS MORNING BY EMAIL. SO NOT GOING TO GO OVER THEM AGAIN. I FEEL LIKE I MADE SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT THE MENTAL IMPACT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE THAT'S GOING TO BE USED IN THIS. IT GOES AGAINST THE DECARBONIZATION GOALS OF SEATTLE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TWO THINGS THAT HAPPENED , PERSONALLY, TO ME. I MOVED INTO THE GARFIELD NOVA TARGET AREA IN 1979. I KNOW KIDS HAVE BEEN SHOT. I KNOW KIDS HAVE DONE THE SHOOTING. I ALSO WORKED IN USE DIVERSION FOR A WHILE. AND I CAN TELL YOU, ALL THOSE KIDS WILL TESTIFY THAT A CAMERA DOESN'T STOP AN ANGRY, SCARED OR ALIENATED KID WITH A GUN OR POOR IMPULSE CONTROL FROM SHOOTING. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES. I ALSO DROVE FOR METRO FOR 36 YEARS. AFTER MARK McLAUGHLIN WAS SHOT IN 1988. WE HAD VIDEO CAMERAS BUT THEY PROMISED THEY NEVER USE THEM FOR DISCIPLINE. OUR CURRENT NEWSLETTER SAYS THEY ARE PLAYING VIDEO 6000 TIMES A YEAR FOR MINOR COMPLAINTS. >> PLEASE CALL THE NEXT FOUR PEOPLE . IF WE QUIET PEOPLE IN BETWEEN SPEAKING WE CAN HEAR THE NAMES SHE IS CALLING. WE NEED TO PICK UP THE PACE OF THIS A LITTLE BIT BY SHORTENING THE TIME IN BETWEEN SPEAKERS. >> THE LAST THREE SPEAKERS IN THIS SET ARE CAROLINE MUELLER, GERRIT JOHNSON AND -- >> HI, CITY COUNCIL., RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 2. HI, MARK SOLOMON. I COME TO YOU TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF CCTV. SEE, I'M A SCIENTIST BY TRADE. WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING OUT EXPERIMENTS I USE KNOWN DATA. I PRIORITIZE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN STATISTICALLY TO HAVE THE HIGHEST LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS. THE 2019 STUDY OF CCTV BY J JOHN COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE COLLATED ALL CCTV DATA FROM THE 40 YEARS PRIOR AND ORGANIZED CHANGES IN CRIME INTO THE FOLLOWING FIVE CATEGORIES. DISORDER, WHICH INCLUDES ADDICTIONS AND MENTAL HEALTH, DRUG TRAFFICKING, PROPERTY DAMAGE, VEHICLE DAMAGE AND VIOLENT CRIME. IN THEIR CONCLUSION, CCTV ONLY SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED PROPERTY AND VEHICLE DAMAGE. DISORDER AND VIOLENT CRIME REDUCTION WERE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO SIGNIFICANCE. THEREFORE, I BELIEVE CCTV HAS THE ABILITY TO MONITOR PROPERTY BUT IT WILL NOT CHANGE OUR CULTURE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT CHICAGO IS DOING AND FOLLOW THEIR LEAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> HELLO, COUNSEL. MY NAME IS GARRETT. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3. I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A LAZY WAY OF HANDLING CRIME. I OPPOSE THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER BECAUSE THERE ARE BETTER ALTERNATIVES TO PREVENT CRIME THAN MESS SURVEILLANCE. FOR EXAMPLE, DENVER'S STAR PROGRAM SENDS MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS TO NONVIOLENT 911 CALLS, REDUCING LEVELS TO 35% IN THE FIRST YEAR. SEATTLE'S ONLY PROGRAM DIVERTS PEOPLE FROM JAILS AND SERVICES, WHICH WE CAN ALSO FIND USING THE MONEY FOR THIS PROGRAM. OAKLANDS VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION TEAM HAS REDUCED TO THIS FOR MORE THAN -- FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND CRIME PREVENTION FOR ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN, AND THE PLANET. I KNOW THAT PROPER LIGHTING AND DESIGN CAN HELP REDUCE CRIME RATHER THAN SURVEYING PEOPLE IN THEIR BATHROOMS. THE STRATEGIES COST LESS, BUILD TRUST AND ADDRESS ROOT CAUSES. THANK YOU. JUST VOTE NO. >> OUR LAST SPEAKER -- GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS PICK MY NAME IS ALINA AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING FRIENDS OF LITTLE SAIGON. WE OPPOSE INCREASED SERVICE TECHNOLOGY IN SEATTLE BECAUSE OF THE RISKS IT POSES TO OUR IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE COMMUNITY'S. WE ARE SEEING TRULY FRIGHTENING THREATS TO IMMIGRANT AND COMMUNITY SAFETY. JUST YESTERDAY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT GAVE PERMISSION FOR I.C.E. TO CONDUCT RAIDS IN L.A. BASED ON RACIAL PROFILING. RAIDS HAVE BEEN GETTING MORE VIOLENT AND RAMPANT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN USING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY TO AID IN DEPORTATION EFFORTS AND WE CANNOT RISK SEATTLE DATA BEING USED FOR THIS PURPOSE. RESEARCH SHOWS CCTV CAMERAS DO NOT REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME OR MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER. INSTEAD, WE MUST INVEST IN COMMUNITY CENTERED SOLUTIONS TO PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS. SUCH AS SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING THE GREATEST NEED, WHICH WILL RAISE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL SEATTLE RESIDENTS. WE ASK THAT THE CITY DELAY THE EXPANSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT AND DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH EMERGING, REFUGEES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE INTENDED IMPACTS OF SURVEILLANCE BEFORE ANY ACTION IS TAKEN. WE URGE YOU TO EXPOSE -- OPPOSE AND INVEST IN SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSE OF CRIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS ARE -- FOLLOWED BY JULIA BUCK AND THEN -- GO AHEAD , NOEL. >> HEY. HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> OKAY, GREAT. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 2. I'M HERE TO VEHEMENTLY REJECT THE BILL THAT WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT. I'M A LITTLE UPSET THAT I HAVE TO BE RUSHED THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY RUSHED DECISION ON YOUR PART AND IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT WE ARE RUSHING TO GET OUT OF THE DOOR WHEN 120 CONSTITUENTS ARE HERE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSING THIS WITH DATA AND BACKED UP BY WHAT THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT AND NEED. I URGE YOU TO STAND WITH THE PEOPLE. WE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE HERE. WITH PEOPLE'S MOVEMENTS FOR JUSTICE AND LASTING PEACE . OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS NOW CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR. THAT WOULD BE AGAINST US IF WE MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JULIA BUCK, WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN LOIS MARTIN. GO AHEAD, JULIA. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS JULIA BUCK AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 6 IN SEATTLE. SINCE I LAST SPOKE ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING SEATTLE OFFICIALS MANAGED TO BECOME A NATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE QUOTE, UNQUOTE DUPED BY MARSHALL FREEMAN , WHO WAS INTRODUCED AS A MEMBER OF THE ATLANTA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO ACTUALLY WAS A BOARD MEMBER OF -- PROVIDER. IN ADDITION, THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CONTROL OF D.C. SYSTEM AND IS USING IT TO IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW AND INVADE AUSA. MEANWHILE, OUR ON MIKE SULLIVAN, THE PRESIDENT OF FOG, IS PRAISING TRUMPS TAKEOVER OF D.C. AND POSING WITH TOM HOMAN. THIS EXPANSION IS GARBAGE. I URGE YOU TO REJECT IT. >> -- GO AHEAD, AV. >> MY NAME IS ALLIE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 7. HONESTLY, I'M JUST APPALLED THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY IS EVEN BEING MARKETED AS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFER. INCREASED SURVEILLANCE WILL TURN SEATTLE INTO AN EVEN STRONGER SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT SEEKS OUT, AND TRAPS AND PUNISHES PEOPLE OF COLOR , THE IN-HOUSE AND THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WILL DO NOTHING BUT HARM MARGINAL COMMUNITIES. THEY WILL BE USED TO COURTNEY WITH I.C.E. AND OTHERS TO BRUTALLY DISAPPEAR PEOPLE, AS WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN. IT WOULD BE DONE TO BELIEVE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS USED TO PROTECT ANYONE EXCEPT THE WEALTHY WHITE AND CONSERVATIVE, WHICH IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO STAMP OUT ANY SEMBLANCE OF DIVERSITY. FOR THESE REASONS, AND SOME ANYMORE I CAN NAME RIGHT NOW DUE TO TIME, I AM URGING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON IMPLEMENTING ADDITIONAL SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THANKS. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LOIS MARTIN, FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN OLIVIA GREEN. GO AHEAD. >> GO AHEAD, COUNSEL NUMBERS. NEARLY EVERY MAJOR CITY RELIES ON CAMERAS TO DISCOURAGE CRIME, PROVIDE EVIDENCE AND EMERGENCIES, AND PROTECT RESIDENTS. SEATTLE DESERVES THE SAME TOOLS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. BUT WE MUST FEAR THE EXPANSION WITH SAFEGUARDS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING I.C.E., ABUSING SYSTEMS FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OR COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE. THE CITY MUST SHUT DOWN ACCESS A MEALY. CAMERAS SHOULD NEVER BE WEAPON ICED AGAINST IMMIGRANT OR VULNERABLE COMMITTEES. WITH STRONG OVERSIGHT, EQUITY AND PLACEMENT, TRANSPARENCY AND A FIREWALL AGAINST FEDERAL MISUSE, SEATTLE CAN STRENGTHEN SAFETY WHILE OPPOSING VALLEYS -- ENSURE THESE [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS -- WILL BE FOLLOWED BY OLIVIA GREEN. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU OF WASHINGTON. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE COUNSEL BILLS EXPANDING CCTV . THESE TECHNOLOGIES WILL NOT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER. AND THEY WILL CREATE REAL HARM. SURVEILLANCE DATA IS ARTIE BEING REQUESTED AND ACCESSED BY OUT-OF-STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES. AND IT'S BEING USED TO TARGET VULNERABLE GROUPS, INCLUDING IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE SEEKING GENDER FROM CARE AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE. IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THE LOCAL -- HAS BECOME A HUB FOR POTENTIAL FEDERAL ACCESS TO BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE CAMERAS. THIS KIND OF OVERREACH IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL. IT IS HAPPENING. HERE IN WASHINGTON STATE -- AND I.C.E. HAVE ALREADY ACCESSED INFORMATION FROM WASHINGTON AGENCIES DESPITE PROTECTION. SEATTLE SHOULD NOT BE NEXT. WE URGE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THESE TECHNOLOGIES , INCLUDING FROM THE CITY'S OWN SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUPS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON BOTH COUNSEL BILLS. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS OLIVIA GREEN, FOLLOWED BY -- AND THEN AMY. GO AHEAD, OLIVIA. >> HI. MY NAME IS OLIVIA. I'M AN LGBTQ RESIDENT OF SEATTLE AND I'M CALLING TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON EXPANDED SURVEILLANCE FOR THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE LOCATION OF THE CAMERAS IN THE CID AND AROUND GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL, AND AROUND -- PARK DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGET BLACK, INDIGENOUS AND OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR AND PEOPLE. PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, LOW INCOME AND HOUSEL'S RESIDENCE. ALSO, THE EXPANSION OF SEATTLE'S SURVEILLANCE NETWORK INCLUDES THE CONCENTRATED SURVEILLANCE OF CHILDREN, SPECIFICALLY IN GARFIELD , NOVA AND ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT SERVE BY POCK YOUTH, QUEER YOUTH AND -- MASS SURVEILLANCE IS WORKING TO FURTHER THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE. SURVEILLANCE IS A POWERFUL TOOL BEING USED BY I.C.E. AND BORDER CONTROL TO TARGET IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES IN WASHINGTON STATE AND IN SEATTLE. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS -- FOLLOWED BY AMY . AND THEN ALICIA HENDRIX. GO AHEAD, DAMIEN. >> HI. I'M A SEATTLE HOMEOWNER IN D6 AND I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT REAL PUBLIC SAFETY. THAT'S WHY I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE EXPANSION OF CCTV AND THE REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER. THE PROPOSED EXPANSION IS MISGUIDED AND IRRESPONSIBLE. CONTRARY TO THE VENDOR CLAIMS, SUCH TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER, BACKED UP WITH VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES IN GREATER DANGER. WE ARE BEING DELUSIONAL IF WE THINK THE DATA BEING COLLECTED HERE WILL NOT BE USED BY I.C.E. OR HOMELAND SECURITY TO BYPASS DUE PROCESS AND KIDNAP AND ABDUCT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY . THIS ALONE SHOULD LEAD THE COUNCIL TO PUT A PAUSE ON THIS INCREASED SURVEILLANCE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE SURVEILLANCE IS GOING TO TARGET VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES . >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS AMY FOLLOWED BY ALICIA HENDRIX AND THEN -- GO AHEAD, AMY. >> HI, MY NAME IS AMY. I'M CALLING FROM DISTRICT 7. BOB KETTLES DISTRICT. I AM CALLING TO OPPOSE THE CCTV EXPANSION. A LOT OF OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTERS HAVE MENTIONED , THE SURVEILLANCE TARGETS MAKES MORE VULNERABLE FOR COMMUNITY SUCH AS IMMIGRANTS AND FOLKS SEEKING HEALTHCARE FOR ABORTION OR GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. I ALSO WANT TO IMPLORE BOB KENDALL AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THEY DON'T SEE THEMSELVES AS ONE OF THOSE VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THE FLUID NATURE OF CRIME AND ANYBODY CAN BE CONSIDERED A PROTESTER WHO IS WORTH TARGETING UNFAIRLY . THE SURVEILLANCE CAN GO AS FAR AS ENTERING WHO SHOWS UP TO WHICH COMMUNITY MEETING. IT'S EXPENSIVE, IT'S DANGEROUS, IT'S INEFFECTIVE AT REDUCING CRIME AND IT'S AN ACT OF BETRAYAL FOR ALL SEATTLEITES. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALICIA HENDRIX WHO IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS REMOTE GROUP. GO AHEAD, ALICIA. >> I AM -- I'M AN ACTIVE-DUTY AIR FORCE PILOT -- I.C.E. RATES HAVE INCREASED AND RESIDENTS ARE SEPARATED FROM FAMILIES WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT INCREASING SURVEILLANCE -- IN-HOUSE POPULATIONS, [ INAUDIBLE ] I BELIEVE MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD HELP PEOPLE ACCESS EQUITABLE HOUSING, HEALTHCARE AND EDUCATION. I BELIEVE WE CAN FIGHT CRIME BY INVESTING IN ONE ANOTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS RATHER THAN [ INAUDIBLE ] PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION BEING ABSORBED AND MISHANDLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. BOB FERGUSON HAS SAID THAT OUR STATE HAS NEVER -- AUTHORITARIANISM. SURVEILLANCE IS A KEY TOOL OF FASCISM. INCREASED SURVEILLANCE WOULD CAST ASIDE OUR CITY VALUES OF FOSTERING A THRIVING, EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE -- DISREGARD THIS DIGNITY OF OUR CITIZENS FOR TOOLS OF OPPRESSION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS REMOTE GROUP IS . >> HI. I'M A MEMBER OF -- AGAINST POLITICAL OPPRESSION. I'M OPPOSED TO THE EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE . I DO NOT TRUST SPD WITH OUR DATA. I'M WORRIED THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE COMMUNITY CONTROL THE POLICE NOR COMMUNITY CONTROL OF THE SURVEILLANCE. THIS IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT LOVES TRUMP AND HAS BEEN SUED RECENTLY, EVEN WITHIN THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT, OVER ISSUES REGARDING RACISM AND SEXISM. I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE CCTV EXPANSION NEAR GARFIELD HIGH SCHOOL. I'M CONCERNED SPD WILL USE THIS DATA AS A WAY TO CRIMINALIZE BLACK STUDENTS INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING COMMUNITY SAFETY. I'M ESPECIALLY OPPOSED TO THIS EXPANSION -- TECH SURVEILLANCE [ INAUDIBLE ] FOR INSTANCE, WITH EXPANDED DATA COLLECTED, TRUMP AND THE NATIONAL CAN COME IN AND TAKE OVER THE CRIME CENTER. -- AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OPPOSED TO AND I'M OPPOSED TO IT TOO. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. I WILL TRY TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LOUDER. MY APOLOGIES. WE WILL USE NUMBERS, WHICH IS WHAT I PREFER TO ENSURE WHERE WE ARE AT. SO WE ARE NOW AT NUMBER 31. 31 OF 65. WE ARE GOING TO CALL OUT THE NEXT FOUR NAMES HE CAN START LINING UP WE HAVE VANESSA , MADISON BARBARA AND THEN SARA TURNER. -- SPEAKING AGAINST EXPANDING CCTV AND REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THIS INCREASED SURVEILLANCE CREATES MORE RISKS TO IMMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND OTHER MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS TECHNOLOGY IS OPERATED BY PRIVATE PARTIES. THIS SUMMER WE HAVE SEEN HOW OUR LOCAL ENDS STAY PROTECTIONS HAVE BEEN DISREGARDED BY A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION INTENT ON USING EVERY TOOL AVAILABLE TO TERRORIZE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF HOW OUR DATA FROM OUR STATE DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING, OUR STATE MEDICAID PROGRAM AND ALSO LICENSE PLATE READERS USED BY THE KING COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE BEEN ACCESSED BY I.C.E. DESPITE OUR LOCAL ATTEMPTS TO PROTECT THAT DATA. SEATTLE CAN'T CALL ITSELF A WELCOMING CITY FOR IMMIGRANTS WHILE EXPANDING ANOTHER AVENUE THAT CAN BE USED TO DETAIN AND DEPORT OUR NEIGHBORS. PLEASE VOTE NO TO EXPAND SURVEILLANCE. >> HELLO AGAIN, EVERYBODY. YOU MAY REMEMBER ME -- WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. MOM SAYS I'M THE PRETTY ONE. I'M HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE CCTV CAMERAS. FIRST, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ASININE COMMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KENDALL SAID DURING THE COMMITTEE VOTE. WHEN PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION INVADING SEATTLE AND USING THESE CAMERAS FOR ILLEGAL PURPOSES BOB SAID THAT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS HAD TALKING POINTS. THEY WERE TALKING POINTS, THEY WERE LEGITIMATE FEARS THAT WE HAVE. I.C.E. HAS ALREADY USED DATA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WILL USE CAMERAS FOR DEPORTATION BECAUSE YOU ALL RIGHT TERRIBLE BILLS. NEXT, I WANT TO ADDRESS MY COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. YOU PROPOSED THE CAMERAS AROUND GARFIELD, WHICH IS DOWN THE STREET FOR ME. WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP STUDENTS A FIELD IS FULLY FUNDING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, FUNDING AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAMS. YOU POSTED A TASTELESS MEME LAST NIGHT THAT SHOWS HOW -- I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE CCTV CAMERAS. FINALLY, CAMERAS ARE NOT PREVENTING CRIME -- >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE MADISON BARBER AND THEN SARA TURNER. I BELIEVE IT IS SAGE MITCHELL. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS MADISON BARBER. I'M A RECENT RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 1 AND I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO TO CB 21053. I RECENTLY MOVED UP HERE FROM NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA WHERE SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY WAS USED . AND I CAN TELL YOU ALL FIRSTHAND THAT IT HAS DONE NOTHING TO MITIGATE OR EVEN PREVENT CRIME. IF ANYTHING, THE ORDINANCES THAT YOU ARE ALL PROPOSING WOULD BE DANGEROUS AND INVASIVE TO OUR COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY OUR MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. AS WELL AS BEING ANTITHETICAL TO SEATTLE BEING A CENTURY CITY. AND IF ALL ELSE , THESE ORDINANCES WOULD BE SYMBOLIC OF BENDING THE KNEE TO THE TRUMP AND MINISTRATION. VOTE NO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SARA TURNER AND I'M A BLOCK OFF OF -- AVENUE. IN COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ'S DISTRICT. [ INAUDIBLE ] AS A CHRISTIAN AND A RESIDENT OF AN ALREADY HIGHLY SURVEILED NEIGHBORHOOD I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS BY EXPANDING THE CITY'S REAL-TIME VIDEO SURVEILLANCE. THIS EXPANDED SURVEILLANCE PUTS ALREADY VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AT EVEN HIGHER RISK. OUR IN HOUSE TO NEIGHBORS, OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, REGARDLESS OF THE DOCUMENTATION OR CITIZENSHIP STATUS, OUR BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORS, OUR LGBTQ NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORS SEEKING REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE. THIS IS A THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF ALL OF US. SEATTLE HAS BEEN A SANCTUARY TO SO MANY COMMUNITIES. AS A CHRISTIAN , AND AS YOUR CONSTITUENT, I TAKE SERIOUSLY OUR CLAIM TO PROVIDE SANCTUARY. I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALSO TAKE THIS VALUE SERIOUSLY. THANK YOU. >> AFTER SAGE WE THEN HAVE EMMA. I BELIEVE IT IS EMMA AND THEN NICHOLAS LAYTON AND PHILIP LEWIS. >> HELLO. MY NAME IS SAGE MITCHELL. I AM OPPOSED TO THE EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE IN SEATTLE. IT IS DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC TO SURVEIL THE POPULATION AND USE IT AGAINST US WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS OVERREACHING THE WAY IT IS. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, ARE ESSENTIALLY COLLUDING WITH EACH OTHER. THE CHECKS AND BALANCES ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY, RESPECTFULLY , TO ACTUALLY STAND UP AND OPPOSE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. YOU NEED TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. THAT IS YOUR DUTY. AND I AM NOT SEEING THAT YET. I DEMAND IT. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO READ IBM AND THE HOLOCAUST, AND AUTOMATING INEQUALITY. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE EMMA . >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL., RESIDENT OF THE CID. WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE THE IMPACT OF A SURVEILLANCE STATE IS BASED MORE HEAVILY ON AN INDIVIDUAL'S EXPENSE THAN PREVIOUSLY IN THE COUNTRY. LOPSIDED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT CONTINUES TO DESTABILIZE AND DESTROY COMMUNITIES BOTH SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING IN STATES LIKE OURS. WE WOULD BE DOING YOURSELF A DISSERVICE BY -- EASILY CO-OPTED BY THOSE ANTIDEMOCRATIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN FORCES THAT ARE NOT PLAY. IT INHERENTLY MAKES THE ASSUMPTION THAT THESE KIND OF SYSTEMS CANNOT BE ABUSED. IT CANNOT BE STRESSED ENOUGH THAT THE LAW DOES NOT MATTER FOR WHOM THIS DATA IS VALUABLE. THEY WILL STEAL IT, ILLEGAL OR NOT. IT CAN BE TEMPTING FOR GOVERNING BODY TO ATTEMPT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT ARE PEOPLE PROBLEMS, LIKE THOSE IN SEATTLE, USING TECHNOLOGY RATHER THAN COMPASSION. THIS DOES NOT WORK. I HOPE THE SEATTLE COUNCIL CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE PLUMMETING. ANY OF YOU IN THIS CHAMBER HAVE ALREADY -- >> OKAY. WE NOW HAVE NICHOLAS, PHILIP LEWIS AND THEN CHELSEA STEPHENSON. NICHOLAS, PHILIP, CHELSEA . OKAY. NICHOLAS IS NOT HERE. WE WILL PROCEED TO PHILIP. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBER'S. MY NAME IS PHIL LEWIS AND I SERVE AS ONE OF THE COCHAIRS FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AS A PASTOR IN THE SOUTH LAKE UNION NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE SEEN THE IMPACTS OF POLICY LIKE THIS FIRSTHAND. ACTUALLY, MY MOM'S HOMETOWN OF MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. TOO OFTEN THESE KIND OF APPROACHES IN MEMPHIS PUSH YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE RATHER THAN SETTING THEM UP TO THRIVE AS THE COMMUNITY DESIRES FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCILMEMBER RINCK IN THE OFFICE FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS ANALYSIS THAT SHE REQUESTED FROM THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU PROVIDED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY. WE KNOW THAT SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT CRACKDOWN ON VIOLENT CRIME. SURVEILLANCE ACTUALLY CRACKS DOWN ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF BLACK AND BROWN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR CITY. WE KNOW THAT THE REALITIES OF THESE IMPACTS ARE FELT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND IN OUR COUNTRY. THIS IS WHY URGE ON BEHALF OF THE COCHAIRS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION TO VOTE NO ON THIS BILL AND TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTIVE OF THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> WE HAVE CHELSEA , GUILLERMO AND THEN JASON PICK >> MY NAME IS CHELSEA STEPHENSON. I AM A RESIDENT AND VOTER OF DISTRICT 5 OF COUNCILMEMBER JUAREZ. I AM A FORMER LONGTIME EMPLOYEE PROVIDING COMMUNITY SAFETY WORK IN DISTRICT 2. AND CURRENTLY SERVING AS A VOLUNTEER ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. I AM HERE ASKING YOU GUYS TODAY TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE EXPANSION OF CCTV. HAVING WORKED A DECADE WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN SOUTH SEATTLE, I HAVE SEEN, FIRSTHAND, THE FEARS AND CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH WHEN PROPOSING LEGISLATION LIKE THIS. I AM, INSTEAD, ASKING THAT YOU DELAY EXPANSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT PROGRAM UNTIL COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION DATA IS AVAILABLE AND FEDERAL DATA ACCESS PROTECTIONS CAN BE GUARANTEED. CONDUCT MEANINGFUL , COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH REFUGEES AND OTHER VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, AND INVEST IN EVIDENCE-BASED -- >> THANK YOU. >> NEAR MOE, JASON AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO REMOTE SPEAKERS. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GUILLERMO. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF ONE AMERICA. ONE AMERICA IS AN IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ORGANIZATION HAS SERVED THE CITY FOR NEARLY 24 YEARS. IN THE NAME OF THE SAFETY AND PROTECTION OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WE URGE YOU TO GO ON EXPANDING THE CCTV AND SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES. WE ARE DISAPPOINTED THAT THE CITY HAS IGNORED THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF ITS OWN SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP, THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS , ADVICE AGAINST THE ADOPTION OF THESE BILLS, AND THIS RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE HARM TECHNOLOGIES WILL BRING. THE LACK OF OUTREACH BY HIS COUNSEL TO COMMUNITIES THAT WILL BE MOST IMPACTED, AND THE TASTINESS OF THE PROCESS AS A WHOLE. THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WE ALSO FEAR THAT THESE TOOLS WILL BE USED TO TARGET US WHEN WE ARE WORKING WITH CLIENTS AND MEMBERS. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE CITY CAN PROTECT THIS DATA FROM BEING ABUSED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE LIVE IN DEEPLY UNPRECEDENTED TIMES WHERE THERE IS A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION USING EVERYTHING AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO VIOLATE OUR RIGHTS. LET'S NOT GIVE THEM ANOTHER TOOL. WE STRONGLY URGE THIS COUNCIL TO DELAY THESE BILLS AND FIRST CONDUCT MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THESE COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. >> JASON CHEN WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER. THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS. >> IT WOULD BE INCREDIBLY NAÏVE OF THIS COUNCIL NOT TO RECOGNIZE HOW THIS PROPOSED EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE WILL END UP TARGETING THE MOST VULNERABLE AMONG YOUR CONSTITUENTS. ACTIVISTS , MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY'S, AND MOST RELEVANTLY NOW, IMMIGRANTS. LET'S NOT FORGET HOW, IN 2020, OPERATION PALLADIUM SPIED ON CIVILIANS 24/7 IN ORDER TO SEND FEDERAL AGENTS INTO MAJOR SANCTUARY CITIES TO INCREASE IMMIGRANT ARRESTS. AND NOW WE HAVE SEEN INTERNAL EMAILS DESCRIBING THE I.C.E. INTEND TO , QUOTE, FLOOD THE STREETS WITH AGENTS. EVEN IF THIS IS NOT MISUSED BY SPD, WHAT GUARANTEE CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THAT DHS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SIT IN FOR ACCESS TO THIS COVERAGE? IF YOU OR A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WAS OPPOSED TO THE DESTRUCTIVE, INTRUSIVE AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL METHODS OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THEN VOTE AGAINST CREATING THIS DANGEROUS AND INVASIVE SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS WILL BE CODY , MICHAEL SCHROEDER FOLLOWED BY JACKSON MAR . GO AHEAD, CODY. >> HI. MY NAME IS CODY FROM DISTRICT 4 AND AM SPEAKING AGAINST THE EXPANSION OF CCTV -- I.C.E. IS ROUNDING UP OUR NEIGHBORS [ INAUDIBLE ] >> LEAD, MICHAEL SCHROEDER. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MICHAEL SCHROEDER. I AM ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO KNOW [ INAUDIBLE ] IT IS UNNECESSARY. PUBLIC DATA SHOWS THAT CRIME HAS BEEN DECREASING. SPD SAYS THAT THEY ARE TOO UNDERSTAFFED TO FIGHT CRIME. VIOLENT CRIME HAS DROPPED BELOW LEVELS OF 2018, BEFORE THE SPIKE OF THE PANDEMIC. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JACKSON. FOLLOWED BY JORDAN AND THE DATE. GO AHEAD, JACKSON. >> MY NAME IS JACKSON. I LIVE IN DISTRICT 3 AND EMERGING THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO TO THE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAM. DESPITE PROMISES OF THE POLICE CHIEF AND HIS COUNSEL TO PROTECT SEATTLE FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, SPD HAS ALREADY FACILITATED THE MASS DEPORTATION CAMPAIGN. TODAY THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING GIVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A MASSIVE EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO PREVENT FROM FALLING INTO THE HANDS OF VICE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THEY HAVE ARTIE PROMISED TO EXPAND THE POLICE CAMPAIGN BEYOND D.C. TO OTHER BLUE CITIES, MAINLY SEATTLE SPECIFICALLY. THEY WILL COME HERE. THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WILL HAVE HANDED THEM THE TOOLS TO CRACKDOWN ON IMMIGRANTS -- [ INAUDIBLE ] DELAY THE EXPANSION OF THE PILOT PROGRAM AND INVEST IN EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY SAFETY PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY REDUCE HARM WHILE STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY TRUST , WHICH IS WHAT MANY OF YOU RAN ON IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS GORDON WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY NATE. >> HI, MY NAME IS JORDAN. MY MEMBER OF CAPITOL HILL. I'M CALLING TO STRONGLY EXPOSE THE MASS SURVEILLANCE IN THE REST OF THE CITY. AT A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRASHING PRIVACY LAWS -- LIKE SEATTLE AND COMPELLING COOPERATION FOR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. IT'S TRULY AN OUTRAGE THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THE MASS EXPANSION OF SURVEILLANCE. THERE IS NO WAY TO ASSURE THAT THESE CAMERAS WON'T BE TURNED AGAINST SATELLITES TO VIOLATE OUR OBJECTIVE RIGHTS TO ASSEMBLY AND FREE SPEECH. IF WE THINK THAT SOME AMENDMENT TO THIS OR STATE LAWS GOING TO SOMEHOW PREVENT THE ABUSE BY THE LEAST LAW-ABIDING PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY THAN WE ARE INCREDIBLY NAÏVE. I.C.E. IS ALREADY GETTING DATA FROM LOCAL AND STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHY DOES THIS COUNCIL WANT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR VULNERABLE SEATTLEITES TO BE TERRORIZED? ALSO, I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING THAT WHEN I REVIEW THE MAP OF THE PROPOSED CAMERA LOCATIONS THERE ARE DENSE CLUSTERS IN CAPITAL, AND FOR STILL. NON-BALLARD, NINE WEST SEATTLE. SURELY, THIS COUNCIL ISN'T SUGGESTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS HISTORICALLY KNOWN FOR THEIR LARGE QUEER AND BLACK COMMUNITIES ARE NEEDED EXTRA SURVEILLANCE? I STRONGLY URGE ALL OF YOU TO REJECT THE MASS EXPANSION. THANK YOU. >> THIS MOVE WILL OPEN SEATTLE RESIDENTS TO OUT-OF-STATE ORGANIZATIONS WHO WILL BYPASS THEIR OWN STATE LAWS. >>> MORNING OTHER CONCERNS, THIS TO PURSUE THOSE DROVE HER TO HER FIRST APPOINTMENT. AUTHORITIES WOULD KNOW HER WHEREABOUTS. I AM AFRAID THAT SHE WOULD BE DELAYED TO GET CARE HERE. AND WE MUST COUNCIL AGAINST THESE ORDNANCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NICOLE ALLBRIGHT FOLLOWED BY JACKSON FOLLOWED BY NIKENBAUKER. >> MY NAME IS NICOLE. I'M A RESIDENT OF CAPITOL HILL. I'M GOING TO BE ECHOING OTHERS TO VOTE NO. IT'S BEEN JUST MONTHS SINCE TRUMP LEFT OFFICE AND HE'S ALREADY USED VIOLENT CRIME TO SEND TROOPS INTO CITIES LIKE OURS. SEATTLE HAS ALREADY BEEN NAMED A TARGET AND WE HAVE NO REAL SOLUTION TO PROTECT DATA. WITH MULTIPLE SPD OFFICERS IDENTIFIED AT THE CAPITAL ON JANUARY SIXTH, HOW CAN WE TRUST THE DEPARTMENT FOR OVERREACH. HOW CAN WE TRUST THAT THEY EVERYONE -- EVEN WANT TO. THIS ISN'T ABOUT SURVEILLANCE, THIS IS ABOUT POWER. AND WHO ARE THEY REALLY PROTECTING. NOT AN EXPANDING TOOL TO BE USED AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. FOR THOSE OF YOU STILL ON THE FENCE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN A MINORITY GROUP I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT POLICING THE MARGINS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF FASCISM. >>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA JACKSON. YOU MAY NEED TO PRESS STAR SIX BEA. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO MATT AUSTINBACHEN. MATT ARE YOU THERE. >> I AM. HI COUNCIL MEMBERS THANKS FOR LISTENING TO US TODAY. AND I DO HOPE YOU'RE TAKING IN ALL THIS AMAZING TESTIMONY. LESS THAN A YEAR AGO YOU VOTED FOR A TWO YEAR CPTV PILOT PROGRAM. THIS WAS A COMPROMISE. FOR A STRONG COMMUNITY OPPOSITION, FEW CAMERA SURVEILLANCE AT THAT TIME. YOU WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED IT BUT YOU ALSO PROMISED US THAT YOU WOULD EVALUATE THE PROGRAM BEFORE ANY FURTHER EXPANSION OF IT. THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED. MANY HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU EXPANDING CCTV IS A BAD IDEA. THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, YOUR OWN POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS. WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO AGREE FOR DEMOCRACY TO WORK. BUT WE DO HAVE TO TRY OUR BEST TO BE HONORABLE. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO SERVE YOUR CITY WITH HONOR. IT MEANS NO BAIT AND SWITCH. NO SQUIRRELY BACK ROOM DEALS. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DUSTIN WARD WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY DENNISON THEN WE'LL TRY BEA JACKSON ONCE MORE. BUT GO AHEAD DUSTIN WARD. >> MY NAME IS DUSTIN WARD AND I RUN THE POLICE WATCHDOG. I BELIEVE THE RISK AND THREAT OF THIS LEGISLATION HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED PRETTY WELL. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF WHICH I THINK THERE ARE A FEW. PARTICULARLY, I WANT TO FOCUS ON HOW THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SOLD THIS, THEY SAID THEY HAD 600 INCIDENTS THE RPC WAS INVOLVED IN. OVER 60s DAYS. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THE RTC WAS INVOLVED. WE KNOW THERE ARE LESS THAN 10 INCIDENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED ON THE POLICE BLOTTER AND FOR THE MOST PART THEY WERE KIND OF UNDER WHELMING. THE TWO THAT RESULTED IN ARREST WERE MISDEMEANOR CRIMES OF DUI AND A SIMPLE ASSAULT. SO IF THAT'S LIKE THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD AT SOME REAL. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA JACKSON. IF BEA IS ONLINE. GO AHEAD HARRISON. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME. I'M A RENTER IN B5. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN SAID THOSE WHO WOULD GIVE UP LIBERTY FOR LITTLE TEMPORARY SAFETY, FEAR NEITHER LIBERTY OR SAFETY. LIBERTY IS A RIGHT AND MENTAL HEALTH NECESSITY. STUDIES HAVE SHOWN, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SURVEILLED THEY BEGIN TO EXHIBIT SYMPTOMS OF PSYCHOSIS AND PARANOIA. AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THESE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE SET UP IN NEIGHBORS THAT TARGET GROUPS AND MINORITIES OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TARGETS. EVEN NASHVILLE TENNESSEE REFUSED TO MOVE WITH THE SYSTEM BECAUSE NASHVILLE BELIEVED IT WOULD FUNNEL STRAIGHT TO I.C. E. TEXAS USED RTCD TO GET CCTV DATA. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BEA JACKSON. GO AHEAD BEA. THERE YOU GO. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> MY NAME IS BEA JACKSON. DEFINITELY WANT YOU GUYS TO SAY NO TO EXPANDING THE CCTV. BECAUSE IT'S LITERALLY GIVING LIKE OPEN AIR PRISON. LIKE IT'S REALLY GIVING FASCISM AND I'M NOT SURPRISED ALL THE WHITE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD VOTE YES. BUT ALL THE POC WOULD REALLY BE GIVING A LINING WITH FASCIST. THAT'S SO NOT CUTE, NOT COOL. SO YEAH. DON'T DO IT. JUST DON'T DO IT BABE. YEAH, THANK YOU. >> WE'RE NOW MOVING BACK TO IN PERSON COMMENTERS. >> THANK YOU, JODIE. OKAY THE NEXT FOUR SPEAKERS WE HAVE JACKIE MAGDA. JOEL SWILINGER, SIMON UNOSO. AND CLARA CANTOR. >> HI COUNCIL MEMBERS MY NAME IS JACKIE MASDA I'M A RESIDENT OF THREE. A FOUR YEAR STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK STATES THE CCTV CAMERAS HAD NO SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. COMBATING CRIMES MAY BE TO SEE WHETHER RESOURCE WOULD BE BETTER ALLOCATED. INSTEAD OF SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON INEFFECTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. NOT ONLY ARE THE TECHNOLOGIES INEFFECTIVE. THEY MAY ALSO BE UNSAFE. IN THIS ALARMING MOMENT OF HISTORY. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE JOEL, SIMON. JOEL THEN SIMON. THANK YOU. >> HELLO MY NAME IS JOEL. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SIX AND I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE UNDER CONSTITUENTS WON'T CHANGE THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH CRIME HAS TAKEN PLACE. THIS WILL ONLY SERVE WHICH WE KNOW FOR A FACT DOES NOT REDUCE CRIME. THE WASHINGTON DOL HAS ALREADY BEEN GRANTING ACCESS TO I.C.E. FOR ITS INTERNAL SEARCH ENGINE WHICH CONTAINS SENSITIVE DETAILS SUCH AS NAMES, ADDRESSES AND VEHICLE INFORMATION. IT IS NOT FARFETCHED TO ASSUME THESE NEW CAMERAS WILL INEVITABLY BE USED TO DETAIN OR DEPORT FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THESE CAMERAS ARE PRIMARILY IN QUEER AND -- INSTEAD OF WORKING BY FEAR. VOTE NO. >> HI MY NAME IS SIMON KANAPIS. I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE BEACON HILL COUNCIL. BECAUSE OF THIS WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE EXPANDED SURVEILLANCE PROPOSED 121, 52 AND CB121-053. I'M GOING TO READ MUCH SMALLER VERSION OF THE LETTER THAT WE SENT OUT TO YOU ALL. BUT I, EXPECT THAT IT'S IN YOUR INBOX. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS 70% PEOPLE OF COLOR, 44% IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES AND HOME TO QUEER AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THE WE ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED THE SEATTLE POLICE OFFICER HAS PUBLICLY MADE STATEMENTS THAT HE WOULD SUPPORT ASSISTING I.C.E. AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECURITY. >> WE NEXT HAVE CLARA. THEN PATRICK McGEE. DO WE HAVE CLARA. I DON'T SEE CLARA. WE WILL MOVE ON TO AARON KENNEDY, THEN JAN MILLER. OKAY NO ERIC. PATRICK McGE. >> MY NAME IS ERIC. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT YOUTH RIGHTS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL YOUTH RIGHTS ASSOCIATION. I KNOW THE CITY OF SEATTLE COULD DO MORE TO PROTECT THE LEGAL RIGHTS AND POLITICAL FREEDOMS OF ITS MINORS. WE WOULD LIKE, CAFETERIAS TO STAY OPEN DURING WEEKENDS AND SCHOOL BREAKS. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE, THE CITY OF SEATTLE TO EXTEND VOTING RIGHTS TO MINORS IN COUNCIL AND MAYORAL ELECTIONS. FULLY MINOR WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE DESERVES THE RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN WHAT GOES ON IN THE CITY OF SEATTLE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THEM. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE PATRICK. >> YEAH, HI I'M PAT MCCABE. I LIVE IN WEST SEATTLE. I PARTICULARLY WANT COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA WHO VOTED LAST YEAR TO APPROVE THE CCTV PILOT TO HEAR ME. THE COUNCIL IS NOW CONSIDERING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY OF NO PROVEN EFFECTIVENESS THAT IS BEING PRESENTED AS A ONE SIMPLE TRICK SOLUTION TO SAFETY. YOU GET YOUR OWN CIVIL OFFICE OF RIGHTS CALLING IT A THREAT TO COMMUNITIES WITH QUOTE DIRECT CONSEQUENCES FOR EQUAL PROTECTION PRIVACY AND THE FREEDOMS OF SPEECH IN ASSOCIATION. MEANWHILE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEMONSTROUS REGIME THREATENING AMERICAN CITIES WITH WAR. WHATEVER PROMISE IS SEATTLE. COME ON COUNCIL MEMBERS. THE PILOT HASN'T PANNED OUT. THE FACTS ON THE GROUND HAVE CHANGED DRASTICALLY. YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO ANY PREVIOUS. >> WE NEXT HAVE, JAN MILLER, ALLIE CARLSON, DENNIS, I THINK IT'S DENNIS MADRIGAL. >> I THINK IT'S IAN. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> PLEASE BE READY TO SPEAK AS SOON AS THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU HAS ENDED SPEAKING. BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO THE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE AS WELL. >> WE HAVE IAN, DENNIS, AND CARL. >> ALL RIGHT, HELLO CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS IAN MILLER. I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. THE CONSENT DECREE HAS BEEN TERM MATED. -- TERMINATED. JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO THEY USED EXCESSIVE. JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO THE SPD ASSISTED BY ARRESTING PROTESTERS TRYING TO STOP UNIDENTIFIED I.C.E. AGENTS FROM ILLEGALLY KIDNAPPING IMMIGRANTS. THE SUPREME COURT JUST RULED THAT ICE IS ALLOWED TO DETAIN AND QUESTION ANYONE THEY EXPECT OF BEING AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT JUST ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SCREEN AND THE LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK. DO WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN TRUST THE SPD. DO WE THINK THEY WOULDN'T COLLABORATE WITH I.CE AND WOULD USE. TO THOSE WHO WANT TO VOTE YES I WANT TO ASK, ARE YOU TRYING TO BE COMPLICIT OR DO YOU THINK THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WON'T WORK. >> ALLIE. >> HI I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE AND A FREQUENTER OF THE CID. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE EFFORTS TO EXPAND CCTV CAMERAS ACROSS THE CITY. I KNOW WE'RE A TECH CITY BUT COME ON. AT LEAST IN REGARDS TO -- I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY LONG TIME TESTED TRADITION HERE IN THIS CITY OF MAKING SHORT SIDED STUPID DECISIONS BUT I BEG US NOT TO DO IT THIS TIME. TO SLOW DOWN HERE, I'M A QUEER RESIDENT OF THIS CITY. I'M TIRED OF GOING OUT AND EVERY DAY INCREASINGLY FEARING FOR MY LIFE. FEARING FOR MY NEIGHBORS LIFE. FEARING FOR MY FRIENDS LIFE WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS AND ALSO QUEER PEOPLE. EVEN CITIZENS. THEY'RE GOING AFTER CITIZENS. WE'VE ALL SEEN GARCIA. WE'RE ALL GARCIA. >> WE NOW HAVE, WE HAVE DENNIS THEN FOLLOWING DENNIS WILL BE CARL NELSON THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS. >> HELLO, MADRIGAL. THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE USA, THE DEFINITION OF CRIMINALS HAS CHANGED. FROM THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY PROTESTING FOR RIGHTS. TO THE PEOPLE PROTESTING. THIS VERY PROPOSITION TO EXPAND THE KR-RBG CTV CAMERAS THROUGHOUT SEATTLE WILL GREATLY EMPOWER THOSE WHO HAVE CHANGED WHAT IT IS A CRIMINAL. AND AFFILIATIONS ADDRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT THE DUE PROCESS IS UNDER ATTACK. RECENTLY IT WAS DISCOVERED THE I.C.E. HAS BEEN FOUND TO MISUSE DATA TO TRACK UNDOCUMENTED RESIDENTS. EVERYONE THE VERY PATRIOT ACT WE HAD WAS MISUSED. WE SHOULD NOT TRUST THE STATE WITH CAMERA SURVEILLANCE. [ INDESCERNIBLE ] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>> MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MY NAME IS CARL NELSON. I'M A 16 YEAR SEATTLE RESIDENT, RENTER. I'M ALSO HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO EXPANDING THE SURVEILLANCE PILOT. EARLIER LAST MONTH, WASHINGTON, D.C. POLICE FORCE WAS LITERALLY TAKEN OVER BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHICH PROMPTED THE HEAD OF SEATTLE MIKE SULLEN TO SAY. A MAN ELECTED BY ABOUT 60% OF HIS RANK IN FILE RESIDENT. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA BECAUSE IT IS THE BLUEPRINT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIONS. HE SAID THIS TO THE UNION HEAD OF WASHINGTON, D.C.'S POLICE UNION. TO IMAGINE SEATTLE IS UNIQUE IS NAIVELY FOOLISH AND DESTRUCTIVE AT BEST. RESEARCH HAS NOT SUPPORTED CLAIMS THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS ANY REAL EFFECT AND IT'S PURPORTED AIMS AT COMBATING AND GIVEN OUR FEDERAL SITUATION, I URGE YOU ALL TO SHOOT THIS DOWN. THANK YOU. >>> WE'LL NOW MOVE BACK INTO REMOTE COMMENTER. OUR NEXT COMMENTER WILL BE SEAN, ROLAND AND LIAM NEWHOUSE BROWN. GO AHEAD SEAN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN THE CHAMBER AND THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL I WILL SPARE YOU TIME TODAY WITH A VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT. I HAVE THIS MUCH TO SAY TO THE POLITICIANS TODAY. IF YOU DO NOT PROTECT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PEOPLE WILL EMBRACE THE SECOND AS THE SOLUTION TO THEIR PROBLEMS. REMEMBER THAT. GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROLAND KAUFFMAN. THEN SAGE WALAND. GO AHEAD ROLAND. >> HI MY NAME IS ROWAN KAUFFMAN, I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO ASK AS A CONSTITUENT AND BEG YOU THE COMMUNITIES OF YOUR CITY THAT YOU VOTE NO ON EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY IMPLEMENTATION. YOU ALREADY KNOW AND HEARD PLENTY TODAY OF THE DANGERS FACED. THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GUARANTEE YOUR VOTE AGAINST THE THREAT TO OUR CITY. FIRST OF ALL AS A PART OF 50% OF SEATTLITES. I DO NOT HAVE THE COMFORT TO BE SURVEYED IN OUR HOMES. OUR POLITICAL CLIMATE IT IS BEYOND OBVIOUS WHY SUCH INCREASED SURVEILLANCE ARE HONESTLY TERRIFIED AND I ASK NOT ONLY FOR MYSELF, MY NEIGHBORS, THE CITY AS A WHOLE BUT FOR ALL OF YOU. YOU TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO OBSERVE. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LIAM NIEHOUSE. FOLLOWED BY SAGE WALA ND. GO AHEAD. >> HELLO MY NAME IS LIAM FROM DISTRICT FOUR AND I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OF EXPANDING POLICE SURVEILLANCE. DOESN'T MEAN THESE TOOLS CANNOT BE USED AGAINST US BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. AS EVERYONE HAS SAID PREVIOUSLY. THE SPD HAS ALREADY COOPERATED WITH ICE TO ARREST WASHINGTONIANS AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ A POEM. FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS AND I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A SOCIALIST. THEN THEY CAME FOR THE TRADE UNIONISTS AND I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A TRADE UNIONISTS. THEN THEY CAME FOR THE JEWS AND I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A JEW. AND THEN THEY CAME FOR ME AND THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO SPEAK FOR ME. SO I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT. I WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF YOU TO SPEAK OUT AS WELL BY VOTING NO ON THIS BILL. DO NOT GIVE THEM MORE TOOLS SO THAT THEY CAN SILENCE US, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SAGE WALAND FOLLOWED BY CHARLIE KAPLAN PEREZ AND DILLAN BAKER. GO AHEAD SAGE. >> HI, I JUST ALSO WANTED TO CALL AND BE AN OPPOSITION TO THE EXPANSION OF THIS INEFFECTIVE AND DANGEROUS PREP. I KNOW THE COUNCIL IS NOT NAIVE BECAUSE TO WORK IN POLITICS AND BE BEHIND THOSE CLOSED DOORS YOU CAN'T BE. THIS WILL BE USED TO HARM OUR NEIGHBORS. IT WILL BE USED TO HARM PEOPLE. AND WHATEVER THE POLICY STATES IT DOES NOT MATTER. SO DON'T LET THIS BE YOUR LEGACY. I REALLY HOPE YOU DECIDE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KAITLIN PEREZ. >> HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> HI MY NAME IS CHARLIE KAPLAN PEREZ. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME TODAY. JUST AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID, THE RESEARCH DOES NOT SUPPORT. IT IS OBVIOUS WHY IT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY. I KNOW YOU COME TO THIS MEETING WITH YOUR MIND MADE UP, BUT IT IS JUST A SIGN OF COURAGE AND STRENGTH TO BE ABLE TO MEET A MOMENT WHERE IT IS AND CHANGE YOUR MIND AND I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD ENOUGH TODAY TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE EXPANSION SURVEILLANCE IN SEATTLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DENNIS BAKER AND THEN JAY FOXCOVE. GO AHEAD DILLAN. >> HI, MY NAME IS DILLAN BAKER I'M ALSO SPEAKING TO OPPOSE THE EXPANSION OF THE SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. YOU HEARD PLENTY OF COUNTER ARGUMENTS AT THIS POINT SO I WILL KEEP IT PERSONAL AND ON ONE POINT. I'M THE LEAD RESEARCH ENGINEER AT THE DISTRIBUTED AI RESEARCH INSTITUTE. I STUDY HARMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND BIAS. I'M A SEATTLE HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT ONE. I DO A LOT OF STUDYING OF TECHNOLOGY, WHO BUILDS IT, HOW IT'S BUILT. I'VE BEEN WORKING IN TECH FOR A LONG TIME. IPSE THE WAY THIS STUFF IS DEVELOPED. THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS IN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. THEY'RE CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS AT BUILDING CAMERAS AND SELLING THEM TO POLICE DEPARTMENTS. THEY MARKET THEIR TECHNOLOGY HOWEVER THEY IMMEDIATE TO AND YOU ARE REPRESENTATIVES ARE THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE. I'VE WATCHED THIS HAPPEN SO MANY TIMES BEFORE. THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, WHO STUDY HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE LOOK AT HOUSING AND EXPANDED LIBRARY HOURS. THAT KEEPS PEOPLE SAFE. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHAR SMITH WHO WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JEFF FOXTROBE. GO AHEAD SHAR. >> HELLO MY NAME IS SHAR SMITH. I'M CALLING TO SAY HELL NO TO THE EXPANSION OF THIS SURVEILLANCE. A VOTE IS A VOTE FOR TRUMP'S FASCIST AGENDA. CIVIL RIGHTS ARE AN IMPEDIMENT TO OUR GROWTH RATHER THAN A NECESSITY AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THIS WILL NOT MAKE ANY OF US SAFER BUT IT WILL MAKE SURE THAT TRUMP'S GOONS WILL BE ASSISTED BID BOTH SPD AND THIS QUEST TO TEAR OUR FAMILIES AND SEND PEOPLE TO CAMPS IN EL SALVADOR AND ELSEWHERE. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAY FOXGLOBE. >> I'M JOINING THE CHORUS OF VOICES CALLING YOU TO VOTE NO TO THE EXPANSION. I HOPE OUR TIME AND TESTIMONY WILL NOT BE IN VEIN. WE HAVE NO ASSURANCES AS TO HOW IT WILL NOT FALL INTO THE HANDS OF I.C.E. AND OTHER AGENCIES. YOU CANNOT PAT YOURSELF IN THE BACK OF CREATING A CULTURE OF INCLUSIVETY IF YOU'RE THREATENING THE SAFETY OF VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES BY FOLLOWING THEIR EVERY MOVE AS THEY GO ABOUT THEIR LIFE. TIME AND AGAIN YOUR CONSTITUENCY AND FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD STORIES THAT STRESS THE DIFFERENCE FUNDING CAN MAKE TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND HELP FOLKS FACING HEALTH EMERGENCIES AND THOSE IN HOUSING BRACKETS. INCREASING SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT REDUCE CRIME AND WILL ENDANGER THE COMMUNITIES AND KEEP SEATTLE TO BE WHAT IT IS. >> AND OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP, BECKY SESSA. GO AHEAD DAVID. >> HI, NO MORE USE OF CRIME FIGHTING TOOLS. IT'S LIKE GUN TOTING CRIMINAL WALKS UP AND ROBS MY EMPLOYEES IN THE STADIUM DISTRICT AGAIN, WE NEED A MORE DETAILED VIDEO AND A CAPABILITY TO DEPLOY A DRONE, TO HONE IN ON A PERPETRATOR ATTEMPTING TO RUN AND CHANGE THE COLOR OF THEIR SHIRT AROUND THE CORNER. BECAUSE, BY THE TIME THE COPS GET INFORMED IT TURNS OUT MOST WILL BE INSIDE THE SEA HAWKS GAME IN OPPOSING TEAMS JERSEYS MAKING OVERTIME ENTRAMPING DRUNK SEA HAWK FANS. WHILE NOT EVEN TIED TO FIGHT CRIME AROUND THE DISTRICT. WE NEED DRONES TO HONE IN ON A PERPETRATOR AND TIE IN THE KIOSKS TO THE STADIUM NETWORK OF CCTV CAMERAS AND MAKE IT MORE DEPLOYABLE AND USER FRIENDLY. AND YOU KNOW, RELY ON THE VETTING AND PROPER HIRING AND TRAINING. >> THANK YOU OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THIS REMOTE GROUP IS BECKY CESSA. GO AHEAD BECKY. >> HI. >> THANK YOU, GO AHEAD. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. I'M COMING FROM AN ALLERGY APPOINTMENT. OKAY, WE DO NOT WANT MORE SURVEILLANCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND ACLU WASHINGTON HAS WRITTEN A LETTER WITH STUDIES SHOWCASING WHY THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE NOT ACCESSIVE AND VIOLATE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. AND ENSURE THEY IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. EXCUSE ME. OR DO NOT SHOW UP IN IMMIGRATION HEARINGS. THERE HAVE BEEN DATA SHARING INCIDENTS AT THE STATE LEVEL. WHAT MAKES ME FEEL UNSAFE AT THE MOMENT IS THE OVERREACH OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE RACIST TARGETING OF THE PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GROWING UP IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND I WANT THEIR SAFETY PRIORITIZED SINCE THEY MAKE THIS CITY A PLACE I WANT TO LIVE. THIS SURVEILLANCE IS NOT ONLY UNNECESSARY BUT I OPPOSE THE CONSEQUENCES. >> THANK YOU, WE'LL NOW MOVE BACK TO IN PERSON PUBLIC COMMENTERS. >> OKAY OUR NEXT, EXCUSE ME OUR NEXT SPEAKERS ARE GOING TO BE KATE RUBENS. BETHNY MILLER, SANDY H. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE KATE RUBEN. THANKS. >> HI, COCHAIR OF THE SEATTLE RENTERS COMMISSION. THE PROPOSED MASS SURVEILLANCE EXPANSION DISPROPORTIONALLY TARGETS RENTERS, BLACK INDIGENOUS AND OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR AND QUEER, TRANS, DISABLED AND LOW INCOME. SPD PLANS TO ACCEPT LIVE FEED FROM APARTMENT BUILDINGS. RESIDENTS CAN BE SURVEILLED AND TRACKED FROM THE MOMENT THEY LEAVE THEIR HOMES. WE'RE FACING THREATS. IT'S TIME TO TAKE THE MOMENT WE'RE IN SERIOUSLY. A 40 YEAR META ANALYSIS FOUND THAT SURVEILLANCE HAS NO EFFECT ON VIOLENT CRIME. YOU'RE CONSIDERING PUTTING OUR SAFETY, PRIVACY AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AT RISKS, FOR WHAT EXACTLY. THE RENTERS COMMISSION JOINS THE OFFICER FOR CIVIL RIGHTS, POLICE COMMISSION. >>> THE PEOPLE HERE HAVE BEEN VERY CHARRABLE TO YOU. CHARITABLE. THEY'VE MADE LOGICAL ARGUMENTS ON WHY THIS PROGRAM IS NOT RIGHT. IT'S DONALD TRUMP ON A SILVER PLATTER BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S SAFER FOR YOU TO LIVE ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE DEVIL INSTEAD OF UNDER HIS BOOTS. BECAUSE YOU'RE COWARDS. I'M NOT SHEER TO TELL YOU TO VOTE NO. WHAT I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU THEY'RE BUILDING A BUNKER IN NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE THEY NEED SOME WHERE TO HIDE FROM US. WHEN THE POWER GRID GOES DOWN, THEY'RE NOT BRINGING YOU WITH THEM. WHEN WE START EATING PEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO REMEMBER WHO VOTED FOR THESE THINGS. WE'RE GOING TO KNOW YOUR NAME, YOUR FACES, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW YOUR FAMILIES, WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE. ALL FOR WHAT TWO PARTS, USED MOTOR OIL, ONE PART: >> PLEASE PROCEED. >> HI, PLEASE READ THE CCTV ASR LISTS THE ORIGINAL LOCATIONS AS BEING PART OF THE PILOT AND VIOLENT OMISSION AS A DEPLOYMENT THAT IS PERMANENT. A RECORD AMOUNT OF PEOPLE SUBMITTED COMMENT AND 60 ORGANIZATIONLESS. -- ORGANIZATIONINGS. -- ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CASA LATINA. PLUS THE COMMUNITY SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP, POLICE COMMISSION AND SEATTLE RUN COMMISSION. AS THE AUGUST PRIMARY SHOWED, THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS WILL NOT HAPPY WITH THE COUNCIL'S ACTIONS AND DO NOT WANT THESE TECHNOLOGIES. ANYONE WHO VOTES WILL CLEARLY NOT BE REELECTED. PLEASE VOTE NO ON BOTH COUNCIL BILLS, THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE SD. >> HI, I'M A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 5 AND I OFTEN AT LEAST ONCE SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY, I PASS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION OF AURORA AND 85th WHERE THIS TECHNOLOGY ALREADY EXISTS ON ALMOST EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF IT. I FEEL GREAT SHAME BECAUSE ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I WAS SITTING AT THAT LIGHT. I WAS ABOUT SEVEN CARS DEEP. AT THE CORNER IS A GAS STATION WHICH HAS ABOUT FOUR, FOUR CAMERAS ON THE ROOF OF IT AND HARDLY EVER SEE ANY VEHICLES GO IN THERE AND GET GAS. BUT THERE WAS A DILAPIDATED RV PARKED AT THE, ONE OF THE STATION GAS PUMPS. AND WHILE I WAS WAITING, I SAW SPD COME TO THAT GAS STATION. AND THE OWNER OF THAT RV WAS ABOUT TO EXIT AND LEAVE, BUT THE, THEY CAME AND THEY HARASSED HIM FOR EXPIRED TABS. HARASSED HIM FOR EXPIRED TABS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CAMERON FRAIZER AND THEN CASEY AND EDEN. CAMERON, CASEY. >> ALL RIGHT, HELLO MY NAME IS CAMERON SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF TECH FOUR HOUSING IN OPPOSITION TO PROPOSED EXPANSION OF VIDEO SURVEILLANCE IN SEATTLE. THIS PROPOSAL COMES AS ICE IS HUNTING DOWN THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THIS TYPE OF DATA IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO -- IN THIS CONTEXT THE PUBLIC ABSOLUTELY CANNOT ENTRUST SURVEILLANCE TECH TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH MORE JANUARY 6th ATTENDEES THAN ANY OTHER IN THE COUNTRY. OR THE DEPARTMENT WHO'S UNION PRESIDENT SAID THE ARMS TAKE OVER OF DC SHOULD SERVE AS A BLUEPRINT FOR POLICING NATIONWIDE. THIS SUMMER, SEATTLE RESIDENTS SPENT MONTHS IN PRISON. THAT PERSON HAPPENED TO BE AN AMAZON EMPLOYEE AND THE RESOURCES TO DEFEND HIM. OTHER CITIES HAVE BROUGHT DOWN CRIME FASTER WITH PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH. THIS PROGRAM WOULD. >> CASEY THEN EDEN. >> HELLO MY NAME IS CASEY AND I'M LIVING IN CAPITOL HILL. JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE WE WANT YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROGRAM. IT DOES NOT HELP KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. AS AN ER NURSE, I KEEP PEOPLE SAFE AND THAT'S NOT BY SURVEILLANCING CONSTANTLY. IT'S BY OFFERING THEM SUPPORT AND HELP WHEN THEY NEED IT. WHAT IN THE 1974 ARE WE DOING. WHY ARE WE TRYING TO SURVEY MYSELF WALKING TO THE PARK OR GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE. IT DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY. I HOPE THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND BRING THE CONSTITUENTS. WE ALL COME IN HOPES YOU WILL APPEAL. I CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH US. THEY'RE READING THEIR E-MAILS. WE WANT TO BE SAFE TOO. >> WE HAVE EDEN. AFTER EDEN IT'LL BE BETHNY. >> MY NAME IS EDEN ARMSTRONG. I'M WITH THE UNIQUE OPINION OF NOT AGREEING. I'M A TRANSWOMAN WHO COMES FROM FLORIDA. A REPUBLICAN STATE AND I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SURVEILLANCE IS. I HAVE TO WORRY IF I USE THE BATHROOM OF MY CHOICE. USING THESE CCTV CAMERAS ALLOWING THE CITY TO SET UP THIS KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALLOWS THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION TO USE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. APOLOGIES. IF YOU THINK THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE, IF YOU THINK OH IT COULDN'T HAPPEN HERE I ASSURE YOU IT COULD. HARVARD ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED INSTITUTIONS WAS NOT ABLE TO KEEP UP AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. IN WHAT WORLD DO YOU THINK THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE CITY OF SEATTLE. IT CAN AND IT WILL. CREATING AND ENFORCING THIS PROGRAM IN A FAR BIGGER MANNER THAN IT HAS BEEN WILL ONLY SEEK TO HURT MINORITY GROUPS THAT YOU WORK SO HARD TO PROTECT. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO, THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS BETHANY MILLER. I ECHO THE CONCERNS OF MANY OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN TODAY. THAT THIS WILL NOT PREVENT CRIME, MERELY DOCUMENT THE CRIMES THAT HAPPEN. WE HAVE BETTER WAYS TO SPEND MONEY IN THIS CITY. THINGS THAT COULD REALLY IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. MORE THAN BEING SURVEILLED. WITH THE CURRENT REGIME THAT IS IN PLACE IN DC, I THINK IT IS NOT, IF NONE OF US ARE SAFER HAVING THIS DATA OUT THERE. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ONCE WE SEE THIS PRIVACY, IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET IT BACK. ONCE THESE CAMERAS ARE IN PLACE, TAKING THEM DOWN, IS REALLY HARD. ONCE A FASCIST REGIME COMES IN IT'S HARD TO GET THEM OUT. THAT IS WHY WE NEED TO RESIST NOW. BOB I'M HERE, YOU'RE MY NEIGHBOR. I'M HERE REPRESENTING MY FAMILY AND A LARGE GROUP OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ON QUEEN ANNE WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. WE ARE BEGGING YOU. >> THANK YOU. SANDY THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO REMOTE SPEAKERS. >> HELLO CITY COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HEARING US SPEAK. MY NAME IS SANDY HAH I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I'M A HOMEOWNER AND A 17 YEAR RESIDENT OF SEATTLE. I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE NO ON COUNCIL BILLS 121052 AND 121053. THE SEATTLE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, DID A THIRD PARTY ASSESSMENT OF THESE BILLS AND THEY ADVISED AGAINST PASSING THESE BILLS. THEY EVADED THE ORDNANCE 13576. I ASK YOU, IN WHAT WAY IMPLEMENTING THESE BILLS WOULD ACTUALLY SUSTAIN THE COMMITMENT OF THIS COUNCIL TO UPHOLD THE SURVEILLANCE ORDNANCE. WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN WITH RTCC IS INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF IT ACTUALLY PREVENTING SERIOUS CRIMES. IT'S COST AND RESOURCE INTENSIVE. WHICH MEANS BOTH MONEY AND ENERGY COST TO MONITOR IT AS WELL AS -- >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OUR NEXT THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE FOUR IN PERSON, SIX REMOTES. I AM, AND WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAS A HARD STOP AT 7:00 AND THERE COULD BE OTHERS THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT. SO MY PLAN IS TO HAVE EVERYBODY SPEAK. PLEASE, AND THEN WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. >> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE FIRST THREE REMOTE SPEAKERS, JACOB, SANCHEZ BACA. FOLLOWED BY JUNE FREEMAN AND THEN OISEN GUNNING. GO AHEAD JACOB. OKAY. JACOB PRESS STAR SIX. WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO JUNE FREEMAN, GO AHEAD. OH HERE WE GO JACOB. I THINK I SEE YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY WE WILL MOVE TO JUNE FREEMAN AND OISON GUNNING. GO AHEAD JUNE. >> MY NAME IS JUNE, I'M A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT. SO MANY COMMENTERS HAVE CLEARLY EXPLAINED HOW THIS PREMATURE SURVEILLANCE IS UNSTUDIED AND THAT SURVEILLANCE IS DANGEROUS AND THE CRIMINALIZATION OF BASIC HEALTH CARE. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THE PROPOSED CAMERA PLACEMENT IN AND AROUND WOULD SURVEIL ME FROM SHORTLY AFTER I WALK OUT MY DOOR. I WOULD BE WATCHED IN REALTIME WHEN I WALK THROUGH THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARK TO THE GROCERY STORE OR FARMERS MARKET. AND WHEN I SIT IN THE PARK WITH MY FRIENDS IN MY COMMUNITY. THAT'S A PLACE WHERE I FEEL SAFE, AND WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I JUST, I WANT YOU TO -- WHETHER ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD WANT THAT FOR YOURSELF. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS OISON GUNNING WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY JACOB SANCHEZ BACCA. GO AHEAD OISON. >> HELLO MY NAME IS USHING GUNNING. I'M A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER. AND I JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE AM CALLING TO EXPRESS EXTREME DISAPPROVAL AT THIS EXPANSION OF THE RTCC. NOBODY WANTS THIS. THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT ONCE YOU OPEN THE DOOR IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO ROLL BACK. ONCE YOU SET UP SECURITY CAMERAS IT'S VERY HARD TO UNDO THAT. AND AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT OF I.C.E. RAIDS. INVASIONS OF THE CITY, EQUALLY IRRESPONSIBLE. IF YOU THINK SPD IS GOING TO SAY NO WHEN I.C.E. COMES ASKING FOR SURVEILLANCE. I ALSO I GUESS WOULD JUST, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID, ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THESE THINGS THIS IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY OUTSIDE MY FRONT DOOR. EVERY TIME AS THE LAST COMMENTER SAID. EVERY TIME I LEAVE MY HOUSE I'M GOING TO BE ON CAMERA. I WOULD NOTE THAT IT'S NOT IN FRONT OF ANY OF YOUR HOUSES. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF I.C.E. WOULD SIT OUTSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE AND FILM YOU EVERY DAY AND PROMISE YOU THAT THEY WILL DELETE IT EVERY 30 DAYS. NO. >>> GO AHEAD ZOEY. >>> HELLO MY NAME IS ZOEY. AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALREADY EXPRESSED, WE KNOW I.C.E. HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO USE THESE CAMERAS TO HUNT DOWN OUR VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WILL ONLY OPEN THE DOOR TO PROFILING AND PUT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AT FURTHER RISK. SURVEILLANCE DOES NOT STOP CRIME. SUPPORTING OUR CITIZENS DOES. PEOPLE NEED HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES NOT MORE CAMERAS WATCHING THEIR EVERY MOVE. THERE COULD NOT BE A WORSE TIME FOR SEATTLE TO RUSH THROUGH SUCH AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS POLICY. IF COUNCIL TRULY WANTS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE, IT'S STRONGER PROTECTION GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY IN SUPPORT. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALBERTO ALVAREZ FOLLOWED BY SEAN ISAM. TWO AHEAD ALBERTO. >> COUNCIL, NOT SURVEILLANCE TOOLS ALREADY BEING USED TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE ACROSS THE NATION. NO PROMISE OR GUARANTEE CAN PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES. ONLY STOPPING THIS EXPANSION CAN PREVENT IT FROM BEING WEAPONIZED. IT IS A FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS ALREADY KIDNAPPING OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS ATTACKING THE RIGHTS OF THE LGBT AND VERY SOON THE FREEDOMS OF WOMEN. ABORTION CARE AND TRANSCARE PATIENTS WILL FALL VICTIM TO BOUNTY HUNTER LAWS FROM OTHER STATES. TELLING ENTIRE COMMUNITIES THEIR CITY WILL ENDANGER THEIR FREEDOM IN INHUMANE AND DISCRIMINATORY. THIS COUNCIL IS HAPPY TO SAY A LOT AND DO NOTHING. TO HELP COMMUNITIES WHO ARE IN CRISIS AS OF THIS VERY MOMENT. STOP EXPANDING MASS SURVEILLANCE, STOP SERVING UP OUR CITY TO A FASCIST TAKE OVER. HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU OUR LAST REMOTE SPEAKER IS SEAN ISAM. GO AHEAD SEAN. >> HELLO MY NAME IS SEAN ISAM. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS, I LIVE IN ROB SAKA'S DISTRICT. YOU ALL IGNORED OUR OUTCRY TO KEEP THE SPD LEAST LETHAL WEAPON IN PLACE. TODAY I'M NOT HERE TO PLEAD YOU. YOU NEED TO VOTE NO ON CB121052 AND CB121053. I.C.E. AND DHS HAVE ALREADY BEEN KIDNAPPING OUR STATE AND CITIES CITIZENS FROM THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE. DOWN ON SECOND AVENUE AND HAULING THEM DOWN TO THE NORTHWEST DETENTION CENTER IN TACOMA UNTIL THEY CAN BE FLOWN OUT OF THE KING COUNTY AIRPORT ON MULTIPLE WEEKLY DEPORTATION FLIGHTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MUSEUM OF FLIGHT. IF YOU CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THIS. THE DATA IS NOT ON THE SIDE OF THIS PROPOSAL. YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROPOSAL. >> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER. IT'S KIRK ROBINS THEN WE CAN MOVE INTO IN PERSON. >> I AM KIRK ROBINS. IF THERE'S A KIRK ROBINS OUT THERE, GO AHEAD. >> HI I'M KIRK ROBINS FROM DISTRICT SIX. I AM ADDRESSING AGENDA ITEM SIX WHICH INVOLVES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. IT SEEMS LIKE CALLING 160 POLES BETWEEN THEM IS NOT MAINTENANCE. AND IT'S EXEMPT ON THE PRETEXT OF IT BEING ROUTINE MAINTENANCE. I WATCHED THE HEARING, I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMITTEE IGNORED THIS AFTER HAVING BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION BY ONE OF THE COMMENTERS. THERE ARE TREATY, FEDERAL TREATIES PROTECTING BIRDS. THERE'S AN EXEMPTION REQUIRED FROM THE FAA FOR THIS MATTER. I CAN'T REALLY EXPECT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO BE PROACTIVE IN MATTERS LIKE THIS. BUT I THINK THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS MORE THAN JUST A CHORE. IT'S MORE THAN SOMETHING THAT KICKS IN WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A FEDERAL SUPER FUND DESIGNATION. OR GAS STOVES. I THINK, GO GET BACK TO TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND THINK OF IT AS A DUTY RATHER THAN A CHORE. THANK YOU. >> OKAY WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO IN PERSON SPEAKERS. WE HAVE TIMOTHY KITCHEN AL TIFFANY BURKES AND THEN COCO WEBER. TIMOTHY. >> HI THERE COUNCIL MEMBER. MEMBERS, EVERYONE. I'VE MET SOME OF YOU BEFORE. MY NAME IS TIMOTHY KITCHEN. I'M FROM FREEMONT. I HAVE LIVED PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BODY IN SEATTLE. SO MOST OF YOU CAMPAIGN ON EVIDENCE BASED POLICY. MY ASK YOU KEEP YOUR PROMISE AND LET THE PILOT PROGRAM COMPLETE AND BE ANALYZED AS INTENDED. THIS IS PERSONAL. MY FAMILY IS PART HISPANIC. I'M BASICALLY TERRIFIED THE KIDS IN MY FAMILY WHO LOOK HISPANIC WILL BE DEPORTED TO DEATH CAMPS. EXPANDING SURVEILLANCE WILL INCREASE THAT RISK. A WEEK AGO, TRUMP TRIED TO DEPORT FAMILIES TO SOUTH AMERICA. TRUMP WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE THAN TO SEE MY FAMILY MURDERED. NO LAW WE PASS CAN PROTECT US FROM POSSIBLE FEDERAL FASCIST ACCESS. THANK YOU. >> AL. >> OKAY LET'S GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. ESSENTIALLY TODAY YOU ARE VOTING FOR SURVEILLANCE THAT WILL TRACK US EACH AND EVERY MINUTE OF OUR LIVES. WE WILL HAVE OUR MOVEMENTS DOCUMENTED IN ACTS ON CAMERA USING AI THAT IS REFRESHED EACH MONTH TO TRACK US. THEY WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO TRACK US. AND THIS DATA WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO I.C. E. IT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE FEDS, AND IT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO TRUMP. WHO WILL BE ABLE TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO TRACK DOWN ANYONE THEY CONSIDER A DECENTER. THIS IS CRIMINAL. THIS IS A SURVEILLANCE STATE THAT YOU ARE INSTALLING TODAY. AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND IT EVEN FURTHER THAN THIS. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. AND FOR A FACT, THIS IS ENABLING A NAZI ORGANIZATION. THIS IS ENABLING PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING OUR NEIGHBORS OUT OF THEIR HOMES. THIS IS ENABLING PEOPLE TO BE STOLEN OUT OF THEIR PLACE THEY CALL HOME. AND WE WILL NOT FORGET EACH OF YOUR NAMES. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE TEMPORARY. IF IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY OUT. IT DOES NOT MATTER. PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. >> WE HAVE TIFFANY THEN COCOA. >> HELLO SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS TIFFANY AND I'M THE ADVOCACY ORGANIZER FOR THE WASHINGTON IMMIGRANT SOLIDARITY NETWORK. WISEN FOR SHORT. I'M ALSO A SEATTLE RESIDENT, A WOMANIST, BLACK FEMINIST, AND FREEDOM FIGHTER. I'M PROUD TO CALL SEATTLE MY HOME AND I'M EVEN MORE PROUD TO STAND IN OPPOSITION OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD ONE PERSON SPEAKING IN SUPPORT. SO I THINK IT'S A NO BRAINER TO VOTE NO ON THIS. SPD HAS ONLY STARTED USING THIS PROGRAM THREE MONTHS AGO. SO THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE EXPANSE. I HAVE ATTENDED OVER 200 PROTESTS AND NEVER FELT SAFE WITH A DRONE CAMERA OR SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU. >> HELLO MY NAME IS COCO AND I'M A TEACHER IN SEATTLE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I TEACH IN DISTRICT FOUR. AND BEFORE I BEGIN I WANT TO SAY I HOPE YOU HON HONOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITY WHO IS ARE QUEER, WHO ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK COMING ON TV SAYING PLEASE THANK YOU OF OUR LIVES. NOW I WANT TO SPEAK AS A TEACHER. I WORK WITH CHILDREN WITH LEARNING DISABILITIES. I WORK WITH OUR MOST, OUR MOST EMERGING STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOLS. SO KIDS WITH AUTISM, MULTILINGUAL LEARNERS, IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. AND YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A KID WHO'S NOT DOING TOO WELL IN SCHOOL. WELL, I DO KNOW BECAUSE I USED TO WORK IN THE KING COUNTY. I VOLUNTEERED IN THE KING COUNTY JAIL AS A TUTOR SUPPORTING PEOPLE GETTING THEIR GED. SO WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTY JAIL WHO ALL NEED THEIR GED. WE ARE FAILING. SEATTLE'S OWN REPORE IS THAT IN EARLY. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY. SO PLEASE. >> THAT WAS OUR LAST REGISTERED SPEAKER, PRESIDENT. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. AND FOR BEING SO RESPECTFUL TO EACH OTHER. AND FOR EVERYBODY STICKING IT SO THAT WE COULD HEAR ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. WE WILL NOW PROCEED WITH OUR ITEMS OF BUSINESS. SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED AND WE WILL PROCEED. OKAY IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, NO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE CALENDAR WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING NONE, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE WILL NOW CONSIDER THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THE ITEMS ARE, THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 2, 2025, COUNCIL BILL 121070 WHICH IS PAYMENT OF THE BILLS AND 19 APPOINTMENTS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REMOVED FROM TODAY'S CONSENT CALENDAR? ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE. IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIV ERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLINGS WORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SUAREZ. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> AYE. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE PLACE MY SIGNATURE ON THE ITEM ON MY BEHALF. >> ITEM ONE, COUNCIL 121065. >> I MOVE. IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> OKAY THIS BILL AUTHORIZING THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT CBA BETWEEN THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND THE SEATTLE FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION IAFF LOCAL 2898 EFFECTIVE FROM JANUARY 1, 2022 THROUGH DECEMBER 31st, 2026. IT IMPLEMENTING A RETROACTIVE FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN JANUARY 1, 2022 AND DECEMBER 31, 2026. THE AGREEMENT AFFECTS 31 EMPLOYEES AND INCLUDES 4.67 IN RETROACTIVE PAYMENTS. THERE'S ALSO 2.75 TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CBA. THE WAGE INCREASES ARE 4% IN 2022. 5% IN 2023, 4% IN 2024, 4% IN 2025, AND 5% IN 2026. ALL RIGHT ORIGINALLY I WAS GOING TO HAVE CENTRAL STAFF UP HERE TO PRESENT THE LEGISLATION. BUT DUE TO OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS I WILL JUST SIMPLY ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND IF SO, WE CAN SUSPEND THE RULES AND HAVE CENTRAL STAFF COME TO THE TABLE. GO AHEAD COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO AS A PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY, I WORK WITH THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT WE DO HAVE THESE LABOR AGREEMENTS ON THE RANK AND FILE WITH LOCAL 27. WE'VE BEEN SET BUT FOR THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE AND IT'S TIME TO GET THIS RESET. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO SO AND I ALSO SHOULD NOTE, THIS IS LONG DELAYED. THERE'S DIFFERENT REASONS FOR THAT. BUT IT'S ALSO DELAYED OVER A PERIOD WHERE WE HAD HIGH INFLATION AS WELL. THESE ARE SOME OF THE DYNAMICS THAT ARE IN PLAY. BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO SUPPORT THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP OF THE SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND I, SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT I'M NOT SEEING ANY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> AYE. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX THE SIGNATURE ON MY BEHALF. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM TWO INTO THE RECORD. >> COUNCIL PWEB 121070. AN ORDNANCE APPROPRIATING MONEY TO PAY IMPACT REPORT AND 2025 EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW FOR THE SEATTLE CITY DEPARTMENT USE OF CLOSE CIRCUIT. >> YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY RECORD. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I FIRST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO'S COME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF E-MAILS, LETTERS AND OTHER INPUT RECEIVED BY THE COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE OUT AND ABOUT. IT'S BASICALLY AN EVERY DAY EXPERIENCE. I THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. COLLEAGUES COUNCIL BILL PATH TO GET TO THIS POINT TODAY STARTED LAST YEAR WITH OUR AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READER. ALPR LEGISLATION. WE RECEIVED A GREAT AMOUNT OF INPUT THAT LED TO MAJOR AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL. AND THEN THESE AMENDMENTS AND THAT PROCESS ALSO WERE INFLUENTIAL IN DRAFTING OF THE ORIGINAL CCTV AND THE RTCC THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER BILLS. WHICH WAS FURTHER AMENDED BY THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR. THE RESULT BEING, A CCTV AND REALTIME CRIME CENTER BILLS THAT WERE SEATTLE CCTV AND REALTIME CRIME CENTER BILLS THAT WERE REPRESENTING SEATTLE VALUES AND THE SEATTLE WAY. OUR ALPR CCTV AND RTCC BILLS ARE NOT STANDARD BILLS. THEY ARE NOT STANDARD BILLS. THEY DO NOT REPRESENT WHAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. AND THEY'RE NOT RED STATE, BLUE STATE SEATTLE -- BLUE STATE BILLS, THEY'RE SEATTLE BILLS. AND AGAIN THESE AMENDS DO GENERATE FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED. THIS ACROSS THE BOARD BY THE WAY NOT JUST FOR THESE TWO BILLS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING TODAY. AND THIS JUST SHOWS UP IN DIFFERENT WAYS. FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME COMMENTERS AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT FLOCK. FLOCK, FLOCK, FLOCK. AT NO TIME WAS FLOCK PART OF THIS. AT NO TIME. I HAD MANY PEOPLE SAY HEY YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO FLOCK. I SAID THANK YOU BUT NO THANK YOU. WE NEVER HAD FLOCK. DESPITE THE FACT THAT THESE COMMENTS WERE COMING AT US. THERE'S ALSO A POINT THAT, ANY AND EVERY SWORN OFFICER IN THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, COULD THEN TURN THIS INFORMATION OVER TO FEDERAL AUTHORITIES. I HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE THAT SPEAKS TO THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER SYSTEMS AND IT SAYS THERE'S ONLY 28 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO FUSES WHICH IS THE SYSTEM. THE PRIMARY SOFTWARE SUPPORTING THE CRIME CENTER. OF THOSE FOUR ITD EMPLOYEES, 23 ARE REALTIME CRIME CENTER ANALYSIS AND VIDEO SPECIALISTS AND ONE IS A SWORN MEMBER OF THE SERVICE. ONE IS A SWORN MEMBER OF THE SERVICE. CAPTAIN JIM BRITT WHO MANAGING THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER. ALL 23 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BACKGROUNDED AND ATTAINED CJIS CERTIFICATION. I RAISE THAT BECAUSE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE DOING THIS AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE CHARACTERIZATIONS. IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT FACIAL RECOGNITION AND THE LIKE. WE DO NOT HAVE FACIAL RECOGNITION. SEATTLE CITY OF SEATTLE AND SPD DO NOT ALLOW ANY FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S COME FROM THE MAYOR. FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE, CAPTAIN BRITT BUT ALSO FROM US IN THE COUNCIL. SO, DHS -- >> THERE WILL BE NO DISRUPTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE CONTINUE. THAT IS DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, PLEASE REFRAIN. >> COLLECTED BY THE CAMERAS INCLUDED ALPR AND VIDEO. IT'S NOT PROTECTED BY WASHINGTON SHIELD LAWS. HAS NO ACCESS REGARDING CIVIL MATTERS SUCH AS IMMIGRATION. UNLESS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUSPECTS -- SUBPOENAS FOOTAGE FROM THE VENDOR WHICH WE HAVE. THE OWNER OF THE DATA WHO OWNS THE DATA AND THUS APPLIES TO THE OWNER NOT WHERE THE DATA IS STORED. THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THIS COMES UP AGAIN AND AGAIN BUT IT'S DIFFERENT. DATA FROM THE CCTV WILL BE SHARED TO THE FUSION CENTERS. IN THAT SAME LETTER FROM THE CHIEF, HE TALKS ABOUT THERE'S ONLY ONE SWORN OFFICER THERE. HE DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE DATA. CAPTAIN BRITT IS THE ONLY SWORN OFFICER WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT DATA. I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO AGAIN NOTE. TO THE POINT, KIND OF MENTION CCTV IS USED FOR CRIMES BUT IMMIGRATION STATUS IS NOW CLASSIFIED AS A CRIME ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. EXECUTIVE ORDER IS NOT LAW. PLUS THE KEEP WASHINGTON ACT 2019 IS QUITE CLEAR ABOUT THIS WITH IMMIGRATION CRIMES AND SO WE ARE COVERED IN THIS SENSE. HOW LONG DOES SPD RETAIN THE VIDEO FOOTAGE. AND BY THE WAY, IF THERE WAS SOME PIECE TO THAT, WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TODAY THAT WE'LL ADDRESS. THE DATA IS ON THE CAMERA. IT STAYS THERE FOR FIVE DAYS THEN IT'S OVER WRITTEN. IT'S ONLY PULLED, IT'S ONLY PULLED. >> YOU ARE ENGAGING IN DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. THE SECOND OF THE THIRD WARNING. >> IT WILL ONLY BE PULLED WHEN CUED BY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, POLICE OFFICERS OR DISPATCH. TALK ABOUT CAMERAS WILL BE ON RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND SEE INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND THE LIKE. THIS HAS COME UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, THE MAYOR SAID THIS, AND I HAVE SAID THIS. THERE WILL BE NO DIRECT LINK BETWEEN REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND RESIDENTIAL USES. RESIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL LOCATIONS. THERE IS NONE. THE ONLY THING THAT IS BEING DONE IS A REGISTRY WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A BLOCK WATCH PROGRAM. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN IN A PART OF THE CITY AND THEN THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER ALONG WITH DISPATCH IS SAYING HEY, WE HAVE THIS HAPPENING. NORMALLY, DETECTIVES, OFFICERS WOULD GO OUT DOOR KNOCK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY EXCUSE ME DO YOU HAVE CAMERAS OR ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD TO THIS SITUATION. THE REGISTRY JUST ALLOWS FOR THE REALTIME CRIME BASICALLY SPD TO THEN GO TO THAT HOME TO SAY HEY, EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE THAT? THEN THAT WOULD COME IN JUST AS IN ANY OTHER REGULAR INSTANCE -FPT THIS IS NOT ANYTHING RELATED TO THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND ITS LINEAGES TO CCTV, APR AND THE LIKES. THIS OFTEN COMES UP. THESE OTHER LOCATIONS. THE OAKLAND EXAMPLE WHICH WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT, AUSTIN. WE'VE NOTED THAT THEY HAVE FLOCK CAMERAS AND VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN WHAT WE HAVE. AND THEIR LAWS ARE NOT WRITTEN LIKE OURS. I SHOULD NOTE AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THEIR GOVERNOR IS GOVERNOR ABBOTT. THEIR ATTORNEY GENERAL IS ATTORNEY GENERAL PAXTON. VERY DIFFERENCE FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BROWN. IN THE ROLL OUT FOR THE PROGRAM, IT SHOWS CLEARLY AN INCIDENT WHERE SOMEONE PISTOL WHIPPED, PISTOL WHIPPED SOMEBODY AT 100 AND AURORA THEN HAD SHOTS FIRED. FORTUNATELY A YEAR AGO THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY. THAT PERSON CASUALLY JUST GOT ON A BIKE. PROBABLY NOT HIS OWN. WENT SOUTH ON AURORA. AGAIN, A YEAR AGO, THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY. BUT INSTEAD, HE WAS NOTED TURNING RIGHT, WEST ON TO 97th. THAT INFORMATION ALLOWED THIS INDIVIDUAL AFTER A SERIES OF EVENTS TO BE ARRESTED. ESSENTIALLY ON THE SPOT. AS IT WORKED OUT. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK IF WE HAVE 100 INSTANCES OF CRIME WE HAVE 100 PEOPLE DOING IT. THAT'S NOT THE CASE. THIS PERSON THAT PISTOL WHIPPED SOMEBODY AND GOT ON A BIKE. THAT PERSON HAS DONE IT BEFORE AND WOULD BE DOING IT AGAIN. BUT BECAUSE OF THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND THAT CCTV CAMERA, THAT PERSON WAS ARRESTED. AND NEXT TIME, WE'VE SEEN IT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN BELL TOWN WHERE THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE HAD, DEEP IMPACT WITH THE CCTV CAMERAS AND SO, AND IN JUST OVERNIGHT OR YET. YOU KNOW IN THE CID, THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER HAD A VIDEO OF AN ATTACK OF AN INDIVIDUAL 44, INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS STABBED BY A 44-YEAR-OLD MAN. HERE'S SOMETHING ADDITIONAL TO THIS. THIS IS JUST FROM THE CID OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS. THIS INFORMATION IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR A GREATER PROSECUTION, BETTER PROSECUTION OF THIS PERSON WHO HAD STABBED THIS 44-YEAR-OLD MAN. PUBLIC COMMENT HAS ALREADY ENDED. SO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT THERE'S BEEN MANY POINTS MADE BY THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THAT. I TRULY WELCOME THEM BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM HAVE, THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT HAVE BEEN INTEGRATED THROUGH THE LEGISLATION DIRECTLY OR THROUGH AN AMENDMENT. THEY ARE NOT HOWEVER UNIVERSAL IN COMMUNITY. I HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST EXPANSION. THAT IS NOT THE CASE. A DECADE AGO. A DECADE AGO. >> PEOPLE ATTENDING THIS MEETING, YOU ARE ENGAGING IN DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. WHICH IS SLOWING DOWN AND IMPEDING OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR JOBS. SO PLEASE SILENCE IN THE CHAMBERS. >> A DECADE AGO THE CITY COUNCIL TRANSITIONED FROM BEING A COUNCIL AT-LARGE TO OUR DISTRICT COUNCIL. THE FIRST TERM OF THIS WAS IN AFTER THE 2015 ELECTIONS WHICH WAS REALLY A TRANSITION PERIOD FROM THE AT-LARGE TO THE DISTRICT MODEL. THEN THE SECOND TERM WAS AFTER THE ELECTION WHICH INCLUDED THE PANDEMIC. SO IT DIDN'T REALLY GET OFF THE GROUND AND DUE TO THE IMPACTS OF THE PANDEMIC. THIS 23 ELECTION AND THIS TERM OF THE COUNCIL IS FULLY A DISTRICT COUNCIL FROM CAMPAIGN THROUGHOUT ITS TERM. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES MYSELF INCLUDED AND THE COMMENTS. WE'RE IN DISTRICT EVERY DAY. WE'RE INTERACTING EVERY DAY WITH INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS REGARDING THIS ISSUE, PLUS OTHERS. JUST LAST WEEK, I WAS IN INNER BAY TALKING TO AN INDIVIDUAL RELATED TO PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAVE THERE. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE 24 PEOPLE, THOSE 2 DOZEN PEOPLE WERE BEING HAPPY TO HAVE A CCTV PROGRAM IN INNER BAY. SO THIS IDEA THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST EXPANSION, IS FALSE. BECAUSE EACH OF US ENGAGE AND EACH OF US HAVE THESE AREAS WHERE THEY NEED SUPPORT. THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY. BOTTOM LINE HERE IS, BECAUSE I HEAR THESE DIFFERENT THINGS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY. BUT, THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL IS IN ESSENCE NOW THE SEATTLE COMMUNITY CITY COUNCIL. BECAUSE WE ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY IN OUR DISTRICTS ON A DAILY, DAILY BASIS. LASTLY, COUNCIL BILL 121052 AND I'LL ADD COUNCIL 121053 ARE NOT A PAIR STANDING ALONE OR WITH JUST THE ALPR LEGISLATION BUT AS PART OF OUR INTEGRATED STRATEGIC PLAN AS WE WORK TO CREATE A SAFE BASE IN OUR CITY AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WITH CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING. WE'VE DONE THIS, AND THIS CAME UP IN COMMITTEE THIS MORNING. OF ALL THE BILLS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BUT THE THING IS, THESE BILLS ARE DESIGNED TO COME TOGETHER AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITIES. SO THESE BILLS THAT WE SEE TODAY, ARE PART OF THAT EFFORT. THE TECHNOLOGY BILLS ARE PART OF THAT EFFORT. AND SO COLLEAGUES, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO ON TO THE AMENDMENTS. SEEING NONE. LET'S SEE, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WELL, GO AHEAD. >> YES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 121052 AS AMENDED IN AMENDMENT A. >> IS THERE A SECOND. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL. COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS IT. >> THIS AMENDMENT IS AN AMENDMENT SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND COSPONSORED BY MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER RINK. AGAIN TO THE POINT OF LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, THE AMENDMENT IS TO ADDRESS ANY FUTURE DESPITE OUR EFFORTS, SEATTLE CCTV DATA IS DEMANDED OR RELEASED TO I.C. E. IN THAT ESSENCE, THE CITY OF SEATTLE WOULD PAUSE. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD AUTHORIZE A 60 DAY PAUSE IN THE SYSTEMS FOR THE FOLLOWING CIRCUMSTANCES. ONE THE CITY OF ITS VENDOR RECEIVE A WARRANT, SUBPOENA OR COURT ORDER FOR SEATTLE CCTV DATA IN AN IMMIGRATION MATTER. OR THE CITY RELEASES DATA FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT MATTER. COLLEAGUES AGAIN THIS RELATES TO COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND THINKS THAT WE KNOW FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AND THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN SPEAKING AT IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TERMS OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NATIONAL GUARD. SO I ASK FOR YOUR SPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WOULD COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK AS COSPONSOR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AS WELL. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND COLLEAGUES THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT AND THANKFUL FOR THE PARTNERSHIP FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE ON IT. AS STATED, IF DATA IS RELEASED PERTAINING TO A SUBPOENA OR WARRANT FOR A SPECIFICALLY A CIVIL FEDERAL IMMIGRATION MATTER. WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OFF RAMP TO TRY TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS AND COMMUNITY. THE PAUSE OF CCTV CAMERA SYSTEMS FOR 60 DAYS WILL ALLOW US TO DELIBERATE AND RESOLVE THIS ISSUE WHICH MAY INCLUDE THE ENDING OF THE CCTV PROGRAM. WE CAN'T HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT PUBLIC TRUST AND OVERSIGHT OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES AND WE NEED THE ABILITY TO LEAVE THE PROGRAM IF IT IS NOT IN -- IF IT IS NOT SERVING ITS INTENDED PURPOSE OR IN THIS CASE BEING UTILIZED AND WEAPONIZED AGAINST US. IT IS ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN OFF RAMP OF THIS. THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT FORWARD. AS COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE SAID IN HIS OPENING REMARKS, WE HAVE NOT PASSED ANY OF THESE LEGISLATION WITHOUT PUTTING GUARDRAILS IN PLACE. IN FACT, WHEN WE STARTED EXCUSE ME ALPR I MYSELF PROFFERED AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT INCLUDING LIMITING ACCESS TO ONE PERMANENT INDIVIDUAL IN THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER WHO COULD BE AUTHORIZED TO READ THE LRAPLR AND ALSO, MAKING SURE THAT ANY REQUEST TO SEARCH AND I'M READING FROM THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT HISTORICAL READS BY ANY OFFICER, MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY A WRITTEN REQUEST IDENTIFYING THE REQUESTER. THE REASON FOR THE SEARCH INCLUDING THE REASONABLE SUSPICION OR PROBABLE CAUSE AND THE ASSOCIATED CASE NUMBER AND SUBMITTED TO AN AUTHORIZED INDIVIDUAL TO PERFORM THE SEARCH. AND WE DID THIS TO PUT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE BECAUSE THESE ARE TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE UNINTENDED OR COULD HAVE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEONE FROM A DIFFERENT STATE WHO WOULD CROSS TO SEATTLE TO GET SERVICES INCLUDING REPRODUCTIVE SERVICES AND GENDER AFFIRMING CARE TO BE SUBJECTED TO SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ASK FROM A DIFFERENT STATE FOR INFORMATION AND WE DID NOT WANT TO, WE WANT TO PROTECT INDIVIDUALS WHO COME HERE TO GET CARE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SHARING THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION. SIMILARLY, THIS AMENDMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE IS PROFFERING IS PUTTING VERY IMPORTANT GUARDRAILS BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THIS BEING USED AGAINST OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN SEATTLE. OUR IMMIGRANT RESIDENTS ARE LGBTQ, AND TRANS RESIDENTS AND OUR VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. I DON'T SIT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS BUT I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT THIS AMENDMENT HAS COME FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE TOOLS THAT WE ARE USING THAT ARE HELPING WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS IN COMBINATION AND THAT ALSO, YOU KNOW WE'RE TAKING THESE THINGS SERIOUSLY. WE'RE TAKING THE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY AND WE'RE MAKING SURE TO PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE THINGS. AND MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE IS A REACH OUT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT A STOP TO THE PROGRAM AND THEN REASSESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SEE, COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. GO AHEAD. >> I WANTED TO OFFER AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC TODAY. THIS AMENDMENT MARKS AN IMPORTANT APPROVAL TO THE PROGRAM FOR AT LEAST 60 DAYS BUT IT IS ONLY SPECIFIC IF THERE'S A SUBPOENA OR WARRANT FOR A CIVIL IMMIGRATION MATTER. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LISTENING TODAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER. >> MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> AMENDMENT A PASSES WOULD YOU PLEASE CONTINUE TO, THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT. I BELIEVE THAT IS, COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 121052 AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT B. >> SECOND. >> THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. SO PLEASE GO AHEAD AND DESCRIBE IT. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT BE REQUIRES THAT THE CCTV SYSTEM PILOT EVALUATION MUST DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION WITH A REDUCTION TO CRIME. THIS AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED FROM THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THE RESEARCHERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA. IF THE PILOT EVALUATION DOES NOT DETERMINE IN ASSOCIATION, THEN THE EXECUTIVE WILL NEED TO CONSIDER IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SIR. IN COMMITTEE WE HAD SEEN A VERSION OF THIS REQUIRING INSTEAD RATHER THAN AN ASSOCIATION ACAUSAL. IN OUR WORK HAVE BOTH ACCEPTED THIS AMENDMENT AS PART OF THEIR MONITORING AND EVALUATION PROCESS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INCLUDES FIVE BROAD LAYERS OF VALUATION. ANY ASSOCIATION BETWEEN THESE PILOTS AND A REDUCTION IN CRIME. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC WHO ARE FUNDING THESE PILOTS AND TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL RECEIVE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF OVER SURVEILLANCE. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR AN EVALUATION THAT ANSWERS THIS SIMPLE QUESTION. DID THIS PILOT PROGRAM ACCOMPLISH ITS GOALS IN REDUCING CRIME. THE EVIDENCE IS EVALUATION. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AMENDMENT THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK FOR HER AMENDMENT. THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAD IN COMMITTEE THAT FAILED THERE. I RECOGNIZE TOO THAT THE, THE CONSULTATION WITH THE OIG AND UPENN AS PART OF THE EVALUATION OF THE PROGRAM, AND ESSENTIALLY THE OVERLAP THAT WAS ALREADY THERE WITH THE UPENN PROGRAM AND WHAT IS INCLUDED INTO THIS AMENDMENT. THE CHALLENGE AS WE HAD IN COMMITTEE TODAY IS THAT, THE LANGUAGE IS ALREADY SAYING SPD WILL EVALUATE THE EFFICACY THROUGH STANDARD MEASURES. PRIORITY RESPONSE, PATROL COVERAGE WHEN NOT RESPONDING TO CALLS. EQUITY, PERCEPTIONS OF TRUST, PERCEPTIONS OF SAFETY. THE CCTV, RTC AND ENHANCED ALPR. NO INCREASE OR DECLINE IN MEASURES OF POLICE OVERPRESENCE. MEASURE OF IMPACT AND AN INCREASE OF PERCEPTION OF TRUST AND SAFETY. THAT IS WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. IT IS BROADER AND SO, AGAIN I RECOGNIZE AND I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT BUT I THINK IT'S, BETTER TO HAVE THIS BROADER CAST IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS, FOR THIS BILL. SO, MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO VOTE NO AND I SHALL BE VOTING NO, THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE ADOPTION. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON. >> NO. >> THREE IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION FAILS AND AMENDMENT B IS NOT ADOPTED. GO AHEAD. >> PRESIDENT. >> WELCOME TO CONTINUE WITH AMENDMENT C. >> THANK YOU. I MOVE TO AMEND COUNCIL BILL 121052 AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT C. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL AS PRESENTED ON AMEND C. COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK AS SPONSOR YOUR RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS IT. >> THANK YOU, UNLESS SPD SUBMITS TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL PASSES AN ORDNANCE THAT INCLUDES AN SIR AND EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW THAT REFLECT THE APPROVAL OF A NEW ACQUISITION PURSUANT TO SURVEILLANCE ORDNANCES. COLLEAGUES IN THE MIDST OF OUR BUDGET SHORTFALL AND UNDERSTANDING THE INHERENT RISK OF INCREASING SURVEILLANCE IN OUR CITY WE NEED TO REMEMBER THIS IS A PILOT AND NOT A FULLY OPERATIONAL PROGRAM. THE PROOF OF CONCEPT IS STILL YET TO BE SEEN AND IN THE SPIRIT OF ENSURING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN GOOD PROCESS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND HOPE YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD SEE A NEW ORDNANCE, SIR AND EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW IF THIS PILOT IS CHOSEN TO BE EXTENDED. WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING SHORTCUTS AND JUMPING FROM PILOTS TO FULL PROGRAMS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITY VOICES ARE HEARD. AND FOR THESE REASONS I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OKAY SEEING NONE. COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. SORRY. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I THANK COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS REVIEW. AS JUST NOTED IN THE PAST AMENDMENT. DISCUSSION, RELATED TO THE OIG AND UPENN. AND AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY COVERED IN THE BILL. AND SO HERE'S THE CHALLENGE AS NOTED YOU KNOW WITH HAVING A BEYOND JULY 1, 2028. WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE AS WE KNOW FROM SITTING ON THIS, TIME LINES AND SCHEDULES ARE NOT WHAT WE THINK THEY ARE. WE KNOW THIS FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. DIFFERENT PIECES. SO THERE'S ALREADY IN PLACE A REVIEW AND HOW TO DO THIS THE TRANSITION FROM PILOT TO REGULAR IF SUCCESSFUL. HAVING THE DATE AS STATED, WOULD BE PROBLEM AND CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE WOULD NOT HAVE COVERAGE DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT MAY BE SHOWN TO BE BENEFICIAL ACROSS THE BOARD AS MADE IT NOTED IN THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT DISCUSSION. SO, AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE PIECE. I THINK IT'S ALREADY COVERED. MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU. >> ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY. NOT SEEING ANY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT C. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> FOUR IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION FAILS AND AMENDMENT C IS NOT ADOPTED. MOVING ON TO AMENDMENT D. COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE AMENDMENT D TO COUNCIL BILL 121052. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO AMEND THE BILL AS PRESENTED ON AMEND D. COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED AS SPONSOR TO ADDRESS IT. >> THANK YOU, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR HAVING THIS THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION TODAY. BRINGING FORWARD THESE AMENDMENTS AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE RECEIVED. I WILL PROVIDE COMMENTS NOW REGARDING MY AMENDMENT DURING THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. MY COMMENTS WILL BE ON THIS AMENDMENT, THE UNDERLYING BILL AND THE FOLLOWING BILL. I'M PUTTING FORWARD THIS AMENDMENT TODAY TO REDUCE THE EXPANSION OF CCTV TO ONLY THE STADIUM DISTRICT. THERE ARE GOOD REASONS FOR THE LIMITED SURVEILLANCE PILOT IN AREAS LIKE THE STADIUM DISTRICT WHICH COULD BECOME TARGETS DURING THE WORLD CUP. AND, WE NEED TO TAKE MORE TIME TO PLAN AND REVIEW FURTHER EXPANSION OF USING THIS TECHNOLOGY. I'M NOT AGAINST SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AS IT HAS ITS ROLE. OUR CENTRAL DISTRICT PRESIDENT THAT I'M NOT SEEING ANYMORE WHO WORKED FOR BOTH PARTIES SAID IT BETTER THAN ME. I'M NOT A NO TO EXPANSION BUT I AM WE NEED MORE TIME ON THE UNDERLYING BILL IF WE EXPAND BEYOND JUST THE STADIUM DISTRICT. WHAT GIVES ME PAUSE ARE THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND WEEKS. WHILE WE WAIT TO RECEIVE THE LEGAL DETERMINATION FROM THE COURTS REGARDING FEDERAL ACTIONS I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT THEIR ACTIONS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THE NORTH STAR OF OUR DEMOCRACY'S FOUNDERS. COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE HAS MADE IMPORTANT CHANGES TO THIS BILL AS HAS COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. WE ARE NOT IN FILL IN THE BLANK CITY OR STATE THAT WILL WILLINGFULLY TARGET AMERICANS. WE ARE IN SEATTLE. I DO TRUST CHIEF SEAN MARTINS. I TRUST HIM TO PROTECT SEATTLEITIS FROM ALL THREATS. I TRUST HIS USE OF THE REALTIME TO DECREASE CRIMINAL ACTIVITYLESS. -- ACTIVITIES. I BELIEVE EXPANSION TO THE SPORTING DISTRICT IS PRUDENT. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO MY AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS FOR BRINGING THIS AMENDMENT. I WAS, I LEARNED ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT TODAY. READING IT. WOULD LOVE TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION REGARDING THE TWO AREAS MY DISTRICT. HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE ON CAPITOL HILL. AND OUR CENTRAL DISTRICT AS WELL. I KNOW WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN FROM A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS FROM CENTRAL DISTRICT AND PREDOMINANTLY CAPITOL HILL. IN COMMITTEE I VOTED YES ON THIS AND BROUGHT SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WHICH I HEARD FROM CONCERNS REGARDING ARTERIALS ALSO SOME CLINICS, THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME EXTRA OVERSIGHT OF SECURITY FOR THEIR CLIENTS. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT TO GET A DELICATE BALANCE. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THESE TODAY GIVEN THE REASON WHY IF WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING ANY TYPE OF NEW CCTV CAMERAS, FOR THIS LEGISLATION THEN WE SHOULD SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERING ANY OF THEM. WE SHOULDN'T TAKE OUT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE OTHER IN MY OPINION. THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS. SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OKAY WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT D. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> TWO IN FAVOR, 7 OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION FAILS AND AMENDMENT D IS NOT ADOPTED. MOVING ON. WE WILL NOW ENTERTAIN AMENDMENT D. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO PASS AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT E. >> SECOND. >> IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED AS PRESENTED ON AMENDMENT E. COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK AS PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> PRESENTED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, OUR OFFICE WANTED TO INTRODUCE A PROHIBITION OF CCTV CAMERAS ON NONARTERIAL STREETS. WE UNDERSTAND DEEPLY APPRECIATE HIM PUTTING IT FORWARD. WE WANT TO LIMIT THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF SURVEILLANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WHICH INCLUDES REMOVING THESE FROM NONARTERIAL STREETS AS THERE'S AN EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY AND IN AND AROUND PARKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SEATTLE REMAINS A SAFE PLACE FOR COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO COME FROM UNDER SERVED COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THROUGHOUT CAPITOL HILL, OUR BELOVED GAYBORHOOD. THANK YOU AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> FULLY SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT FOR ARTERIALS AS SPD HAS IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY FEEL THE CAMERAS WOULD BE BEST SITUATED AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. SO THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF AMENDMENT E. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> FOUR IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED. >> THE MOTION FAILS AND AMENDMENT E IS NOT ADOPTED. ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS ON THE BILL AS AMENDED? COUNCIL MEMBER, I DON'T KNOW WHO HAD THE HAND UP FIRST BUT I WILL CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY WE RECEIVED TODAY. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE E-MAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON THIS MATTER AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND THE FEAR. IT'S REAL. ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING, IT'S REAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT BEING SAID, I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE ON THIS, I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTANDS THE TECHNOLOGY, IN AS AN INDICATION SPECIALIST. LOOKING AT REALTIME EVENTS AND RESPONDING IN REALTIME. TO DIRECT RESOURCES TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN REALTIME. THOSE WERE ALL WHERE I LIVED. YOU DON'T HAVE JUST TWO INTEL GUYS UP THERE YOU HAVE THREE. SO AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY. AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW THE SENTIMENT THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO PREVENT CRIME. YOU'RE RIGHT. CAMERAS ARE NOT A CRIME PREVENTION TOOL. THEY'RE AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. EXCUSE ME. WHEN AN OFFICER, A POLICE DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT WHAT CASES TO INVESTIGATE. WHAT CASES TO ASSIGN TO AN INVESTIGATOR. THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS IT SOLVABLE. HOW DO YOU GET SOMETHING THAT IS SOLVABLE? YOU NEED EVIDENCE. YOU NEED A CREDIBLE WITNESS. YOU NEED FINGERPRINTS. OR YOU NEED VIDEO SURVEILLANCE. IF IT'S NOT SOLVABLE IT DOESN'T GET ASSIGNED. WHEN I HEAR FOLKS, THIS ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING. TELL THAT TO THE FAMILY WHO'S HOUSE HAS GOTTEN BROKEN INTO. BECAUSE THE STATS ARE SAYING THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER. THINGS ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING WHEN IT'S YOUR HOUSE THAT GOT BROKEN INTO OR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOT SHOT AT. I HEAR THAT FROM THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I HEAR THAT FROM MY COMMUNITY WHO ARE THE ONES SAYING, YEAH IF WE HAD CAMERAS. THAT COULD HELP. UNDERSTAND THE MEASURES THAT THERE ARE THE PREVENTABLE MEASURES. I AGREE. WE ALSO AGREE THAT WE NEED INVESTIGATIVE TOOLS SO THAT WE CAN HOLD FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR. RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT MORE I CAN SAY GIVEN THE BACKGROUND THAT I'M COMING FROM. BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE SAFEGUARDS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE, THIS COULD BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL TO HELP US ADDRESS SOME OF THE VIOLENT CRIME OR PROPERTY CRIME THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE CITY AND HOLD FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. FOR THE CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WANT TO FIRST THANK THE 105 PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. I THINK THAT WAS MY TALLY. I MIGHT BE WRONG. SO DON'T QUOTE ME. BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE THAN 100 FOLK WHO IS CAME OUT TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WHEN THIS PILOT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED LAST YEAR IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT MOMENT. THIS WAS SOLD TO COMMUNITY AS A PILOT PROGRAM BUT HERE WE ARE JUST MONTHS AFTER THAT SO CALLED PILOT PROGRAM STARTED, AND THE MAYOR IS ASKING FOR AROUND 400 MORE CAMERAS AROUND OUR CITY TO BE USED FOR 24/7 POLICE SURVEILLANCE. REQUEST ANYONE ON THIS DIUS TELL ME IF THE ORIGINAL CAMERAS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED ARE WORKING? BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS NO WE HAVE NO DATA. AN ANICDOTE MAYBE. THEY'VE ONLY BEEN UP FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE PARTNERED WITH THE UNIVERSITY FOR A STUDY BUT THEY HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO DO THAT WORK. THIS WOULD EBG -- EXPAND THE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHY ARE WE RUSHING TO DO THIS WHEN THE DATA WE REQUESTED HAS NOT BEEN COLLECTED. AND WHY ARE WE DOING THIS WHEN THE PRESIDENT IS USING THIS DATA TO TARGET OUR -- SO LAST NIGHT MY COLLEAGUE ON THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALERTED ME TO BREAKING NEWS THAT SAN FRANCISCO POLICE LET OUT OF STATE COPS RUN 1.6 MILLION SEARCHES. 1.6 SEARCHES ON THEIR SURVEILLANCE DATA. IN CONTRADICTION OF ALL OF THEIR STATE LAWS. THOSE SNATCHING UP DATA INCLUDED THE STATE OF TEXAS. THE U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENTS WHO HAS USED THIS KIND OF DATA TO TRACK NONCRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS FOR KIDNAPPING AND DISAPPEARING PEOPLE TO FOREIGN PRISON CAMPS. JUST LAST MONTH IN WARDS, COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE DID NOT IMAGINE THAT THE CONTRACT IS THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WOULD USE THAT DATA TO WAGE WAR ON IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. JUST YESTERDAY, BOTH CNN AND THE NEW YORK TIMES HAVE REPORTED DELIVERY DRIVERS ARE IN HIDING BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN FOLLOWING UBER DRIVERS THROUGH SURVEILLANCE. IN DENVER, DATA COLLECTED WAS ACCESSED IN AN IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES OVER 1,400 TIMES. WE SAW AN A LRP ACCESS TO ILLINOIS LICENSE PLATE CAMERA DATA. DESPITE BEING IN A STATE THAT HAS THE TRUST ACT WHICH IS THEIR VERSION OF KEEP WASHINGTON WORKING. JURISDICTIONS LIKE IN RIVER SIDE COUNTY, L.A. COUNTY, ORANGE COUNTY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY, ALL HAVE THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF KEEP WASHINGTON WORKING. AND THEIR DATA WAS STILL SHARED WITH I.C.E. AND CBP. I CAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT PROVIDENCE, RED LANDS IN CALIFORNIA, TOLEDO OHIO AND NASHVILLE TENNESSEE. SURE NO CITY HAS DONE IT EXACTLY THE WAY THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR PROVIDERS AND DIFFERENT COMPANIES. AND WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT SAFETY PROTOCOLS. BUT THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE BOARD. DO WE KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY WHAT HAPPENED IN EACH OF THESE CASES THAT CAUSED THEIR SYSTEMS TO FAIL. WHY DO WE THINK WE'RE SO SPECIAL. SO ACROSS ALL ACROSS THE U.S. AND OTHER LIBERAL AND BLUE CITIES WHERE COMMUNITIES LIVE HOPING THEIR GOVERNMENT WILL SERVE AND PROTECT THEM, WE'VE SEEN THESE DATA BREACHES AND WEAPONNIZATION OF DATA CARRY OUT CRIMINALIZATION REGIME. AND NOW THE TRUMP REGIME IS THREATENING TO SEND TROOPS INTO BLUE CITIES. I'M SURE AS WE SPEAK. OPERATION MID-WAY BLITZ IN CHICAGO, INTENTIONALLY BLAMING THEIR CITIES SANCTUARY LAWS AND STATE SANCTUARY LAWS JUST LIKE THE ONES WE HAVE HERE IN WASHINGTON AND SEATTLE. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FEDERAL OVERREACH THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN, THAT WE'VE SEEN IN L.A. AND DC. SO, THESE TOOLS CCTV, RTCC THESE ARE THE TOOLS THAT THE TRUMP REGIME NEEDS TO ENACT THEIR CRUEL AGENDA. WE'VE SEEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN ACCESS CITY SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH OR WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION AND IT CAN DO SO WITH OURS. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO BECAUSE AMENDMENT D DID NOT GO PASSED. MEANING IF THIS GOES THROUGH AND THIS EXPANSION GOES THROUGH THERE WOULD BE CAMERAS ON CAL ANDERSON. CAL ANDERSON IS A SITE FOR A NUMBER OF PROTESTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS WHERE PEOPLE GO TO EXPRESS, EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. WE SAW THIS THIS YEAR WITH THE NO KINGS MARCH. A SUBSEQUENT MARCH ON CAPITOL HILL LIKE WITH THIS YEAR'S MAY DAY PROTEST AND RALLY AND PARADE. UNDER THIS BILL, AND THIS EXPANSION AT ANY POINT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAN SUBPOENA THIS DATA. EVEN IF THERE'S INFORMATION ON THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ONLY KEPT FOR FIVE DAYS THEY CAN STILL SUBPOENA WITHIN THOSE FIVE DAYS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS CAUGHT IN THOSE CAMERAS, IT WOULD BE BOUNCED FOR A 30 DAY HOLD. THAT WE KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WATCHES DEMONSTRATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY ARE WATCHING. AND SO, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUBPOENAS OUR DATA, WE MUST TURN IT OVER. AND WHILE WE AS A CITY MAY NOT HAVE FACIAL RECOGNITION ON OUR CAMERAS WHEN DID THAT VIDEO FOOTAGE GOES TO THEM THEY CAN GO FACIAL RECOGNITION ON THAT DATA. AND THAT THERE IN LIES THE ISSUE. BUT I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THEY CAN CHARGE PEOPLE WITH FEDERAL CRIMES AND THEY DID SO JUST IN SPOKANE RECENTLY. THEY CHARGED NINE SPOKANE PROTESTERS. THEY WERE NOT CHARGED BY CITY POLICE, THEY WERE CHARGED BY FEDERAL OFFICERS FOR CONSPIRACY TO IMPEDE OFFICERS. THESE WERE FOLKS WHO WERE JUST PROTESTING AGAINST I.C. E. SO I BRING THESE EXAMPLES UP TO COLOR WHAT THIS COULD MEAN. AND THERE'S A BROAD COALITION OF ORGANIZATIONS TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS AND LEGISLATORS WHO SEE THIS TOO AND HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THIS. WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICE AND COMMISSION AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A QUOTE FROM THEIR LETTER, EXPLAINING LACKS DATA ESTABLISHING THE EFFICACY THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TODAY AND WHEN DOING SO EXPOSES THE SEATTLE COMMUNITY TO FEDERAL OVERREACH AND FURTHER MISUSE OF PRIVAT INFORMS WILL FURTHER MIS MISTRUST. THE CITY HAS JUST EMERGED FROM FEDERAL OVERSIGHT OF MPD. THIS IS THE TIME TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY VOICE. YESTERDAY WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM 18 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. ONE AMERICA, CHURCH COUNCIL OF GREATER SEATTLE. SEATTLE INDIVISIBLE, FRIENDS OF LITTLE SAIGON. NORTHWEST IMMIGRANT RIGHTS, UCC, LATINO COMMUNITY FUND OF WASHINGTON STATE. LOVE AND JUSTICE COMMUNITY OF THE CONGREGATION OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST. PEOPLE POWER WASHINGTON. AND AT THE START OF THIS MEETING WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM 17 STATE LEGISLATORS INCLUDING THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOUSE MEMBERS OF COLOR CAUCUS AND TO QUOTE THIS LETTER, QUOTE, INCREASING THE SURVEILLANCE OF WASHINGTONIASN WHEN WE ARE DEALING OF PRIVATE BREACHES MUST NOT BE DONE IN HASTE AS LEGISLATORS WE STAND IN SUPPORT OF THE KEEP WASHINGTON WORKING ACT AND WITH ALL WASHINGTON. PASSED IN 2019 AND RESTRICTS STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENTS FROM COOPERATING WITH FEDERAL STATE ENFORCEMENT INCLUDING PROHIBITING THEM FROM ASKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS, SHARING PERSONAL INFORMATION OR DETAINING INDIVIDUALS FOR CIVIL -- COULD UNDER MINE THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT OF THIS POLICY TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY AND CIVIL RIGHTS OF ALL WASHINGTON RESIDENTS. TO FOSTER TRUST WITH OUR IMMIGRANT REFUGEE COMMUNITIES AND TO KEEP COMMUNITIES SAFER BY PREVENTING LOCAL RESOURCES FROM BEING USED IN FEDERAL IMMIGRATION DEPORTATIONS. THIS TECHNOLOGY AND TECHNOLOGY SIMILAR TO IT HAS RECENTLY BEEN IN THE NEWS FOR ITS FAILURE TO MEANINGFULLY AND CONSISTENTLY BE SECURED LEADING TO DATA BREACHES THAT COULD RESULT IN SENSITIVE DATA BEING SHARED WITH I.C.E. AND PUTTING COMMUNITIES AT RISK. WITH THE LESSONS LEARNED WITH THE RECENT FAILURES AT OUR OWN LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT TO SECURE SIMILARLY SENSITIVE INFORMATION. IT IS OUR ASK THAT YOU PAUSE THESE BILLS UNTIL BOTH PUBLIC AND LEGAL CONFIDENCE IN THEIR USE IS ESTABLISHED. WE SIMPLY CANNOT RISK THE FURTHER VICTIMIZATION OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT SHOWS LIMITED REGARD FOR CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS END QUOTE. THAT IS FROM 17 OF OUR STATE LEGISLATORS. >> PLEASE. >> TAKING A PAUSE. CONTINUE OUR OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE COME HAVE COME OUT AGAINST THESE BILLS. TO QUOTE DIRECTLY FROM OUR POLICY BRIEFING MEMO THAT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ALL OF US. NOT ONLY DOES THE MONITORING OF SOME PEOPLE AND NOT OTHERS VIOLATE EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE 14th AMENDMENT OR THE FIRST ARTICLE 1 SECTION 7 OF THE WASHINGTON CONSTITUTION WE ARE CONTINUING TO DISPROPORTIONALLY HARM COMMUNITIES OVER REPRESENTED IN OUR CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. THESE CAMERAS ZONE THAT THEY MUST POLICE SAFELY. THAT GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR BACK, IT TELLS THEM THAT WE ARE WATCHING THEM. AND THAT THESE ARE ALREADY MARGINALIZED QUEER COMMUNITY, AND IMMIGRANTS THAT ALREADY LIVE ON THE EDGE. WE ALL JUST WITNESSED PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'VE GOTTEN OVER A THOUSAND E-MAILS THIS WEEK. THE COMMUNITY WE ALL SERVE SEEMS UNEQUIVOCALLY OPPOSED. I DO NOT LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHERE WE HAVE TO SIT BACK ON THIS DIUS AND DEAL WITH THE AFTERMATH OF OUR DATA BEING HANDED OVER TO OTHER ACTORS. I DO NOT WANT TO BE SITTING HERE IN THE FUTURE TELLING PEOPLE, I'M SORRY WE PUT YOUR COMMUNITY IN DANGER. WHEN WE COULD HAVE STOPPED IT TODAY. IT IS A MATTER OF WHEN NOT IF THE INFORMATION WILL BE HANDED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I URGE YOU TO THINK OF YOUR NEIGHBOR, THINK OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND TO THINK IF YOU YOURSELF WOULD LIKE TO LIVE WITH A CAMERA INFRINGING ON YOUR CIVIL LIBTIES. FOR THESE REASONS AND TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL. ORDER IN THE HOUSE. THIS IS DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. I DON'T WANT TO JUST JUMP INTO MY COMMENTS WITHOUT RECOGNIZING THOSE POWERFUL WORDS AND WHAT YOU SAID. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS. EVEN THOUGH SOMETIMES WE DON'T AGREE, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. BUT, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS. IN TRYING TO LISTEN TO FOLKS AS WELL. I KNOW THAT WE ARE IN CHALLENGING TIMES. IN OUR CITY. AND FOR ME, WHEN I THINK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S NOT AN OR, IT'S AN AND. I'VE HAD THE HONOR AND OPPORTUNITY BUT ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ANSWER TO PEOPLE, YOU ALL EVERY SINGLE DAY. FROM E-MAILS, COMMENTS, PHONE CALLS, IN PERSON. I HAVE TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE ON THESE ISSUES FROM OUR COMMUNITY. AND TALK TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY. I'VE ALSO HAD THE INTIMATE CONNECTION AND CLOSE TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY VIOLENCE AND CRIME IN OUR CITY. FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES, PEOPLE WINDOWS THAT HAVE BEEN BLOWN UP. CHILD CARES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT EVERY DAY. I'VE HAD TO LISTEN TO THEIR TRAUMA AND COMFORT THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND IT'S MY JOB TO HELP KEEP THEM SAFE. I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED EVERYTHING, ALL THE INVESTMENTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. THAT THEY SAID ARE IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE FROM FOOD ACCESS, TO AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. OUR CARE TEAMS, SOCIAL WORKER, HUMAN SERVICES, COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT. THAT CAME FROM THE STATE THROUGH CANNABIS SOCIAL EQUITY. ARTS PROGRAMS, DIVERSION PROGRAMS. MY WHOLE LINE HAS BEEN WE CAN INVEST $1,500 TODAY IN OUR YOUTH OR WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTING $40,000 FOR ECHO GLEN. THAT HAS BEEN MY LINE ALL THE TIME ABOUT OUR YOUTH. AND I'VE ALWAYS USED MY PLATFORM FOR THESE RESOURCES AS WELL. I DIDN'T NEED TO RUN FOR OFFICE TO SHOW UP FOR COMMUNITY. I'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE DAY ONE. AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO THAT. MY INTERACTIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO HELP PEOPLE. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE SOME SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED. THAT HAVE BEEN VOTED ON. AND ALSO, TOO, THIS IS REALLY HARD, THIS IS REALLY DIFFICULT AS MY INTENTIONS PERSONALLY ARE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT AVENUES AND TOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A BALANCED APPROACH. THAT I'M LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT SHOWN UP HERE. THAT I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY. THAT ARE ON 23rd AND JACKSON. PARENTS THAT ARE AT WASHINGTON SCHOOL OR GARFIELD PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION FROM PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TODAY. THAT MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ON PEOPLE WHO SENT E-MAILS. THAT HAS BEEN MY JOB TO LISTEN AND FIND A BALANCE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED THIS IN COMMITTEE AND I'M ALSO GOING TO BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY AND MAKING SURE THAT I USE MY POSITION THAT WHILE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT MISUSED. AND WE CAN ALSO, AND I KNOW SOMEONE JUST LAUGHED THERE. I'M REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT WHEN I SAY IT. YOU CAN LAUGH IF YOU WANT TO. THAT'S FINE. BUT I'M SERIOUS WHEN I HAVE TAKEN THIS OATH TO MAKE SURE THAT I PROTECT PEOPLE FROM DAY ONE. BECAUSE I LITERALLY HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES. AND THEY'RE TEXTING ME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT ON THEIR TRAUMA BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOLS. OR I GO TO THEIR FUNERALS. I LITERALLY HAVE TO ANSWER TO THESE PEOPLE AND I DO BELIEVE THIS COULD BE A TOOL AND TECHNOLOGY TO HELP WITH INVESTIGATION FOR OUR CITY IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE SEE A RISE IN CERTAIN CRIME AND ACTIVITIES IN OUR CITY. SO THAT IS MY POSITION. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HERE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE TO RESPOND AND BE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT. SO, I WILL BE VOTING YES ON THIS LEGISLATION AND THANK YOU. >> PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE. I WOULD, I WON'T REPEAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY SAID. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION. I DO WANT TO, JUST COMMENT ON THE, OKAY. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST, WE EXTENDED, WE ACTUALLY ADDED AND EXPANDED TO THE CARE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THE, BEFORE WE GOT THE EVALUATION PROJECT. I MEAN THE EVALUATION REPORT WHICH WAS DUE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE RESULTS OF THE, OF WHAT WE WERE SEEING ON THE STREET. AND SO IT IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED TO GO AHEAD AND EXPAND THE PROGRAM BEFORE THE END OF THE PILOT PROGRAM OR BEFORE WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PLAN FOR, EVALUATION. COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> THANK YOU MA'AM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO TOOK TIME TO COME OUT AND PRESENT COMMENT TODAY. THOSE WHO HAVE SUBMITTED E-MAIL COMMENTS AND FEED BACK OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. REALLY FEW MONTHS SINCE THIS PROPOSAL WAS ORIGINALLY TRANSMITTED. AND HAS BEEN GONE THROUGH OUR COMMITTEE REVIEW PROCESS TO GET US TO THIS POINT. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR JUST A BIT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION FOR THEIR TERRIFIC WORK. AND FOR MEETING WITH MY OFFICE. TO DISCUSS THEIR FEED BACK AND SPECIFIC CONCERNS. THANK YOU TO THE CBC FOR BEING SUCH A GOOD ADVOCATE FOR MANY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE CITY OF SEATTLE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT AND ADVOCACY AS WELL. COMMUNITY VOICE IS NEEDED NOW MORE THAN EVER. AS WE FACE UNPRECEDENTED ATTACKS ON OUR FREEDOM AND VALUES FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. INCLUDING ATTEMPTS TO MILITARIZE OUR CITIES AND WEAPONIZE OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM AGAINST OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. IN THE IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE COMMUNITY. AS SOMEONE WHO'S A PROUD SON OF A NIGERIAN IMMIGRANT, SOMEONE WHO HAS WENT TO TITLE 13 DIFFERENT K THROUGH 12 TITLE ONE SCHOOLS GROWING UP. ALL OF THEM, FOR KIDS LIKE MYSELF AT THE TIME, FROM DISADVANTAGED BACKGROUNDS. SOCIO ECONOMICALLY, TONS OF REFUGEES. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. BALANCING THE MANY NEEDS. WE'RE HEARING VALID CONCERNS. VALID FEED BACK FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TODAY AND OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH'S POINT. WE'RE ALSO HEARING CONCERNS AND FEED BACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WANT ASSISTANCE AND WANT BETTER ACTION AGAINST PROPERTY CRIME, AND VIOLENT CRIME. WE NEED TO HOLD INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. SO BALANCING THESE COMPETING NEEDS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I HAPPEN TO REPRESENT SOUTH PARK. A COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A VERY, OBVIOUSLY A VERY HIGH LATINO POPULATION. HISPANIC POPULATION, THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT I.C.E. RIGHT NOW AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT. I ALSO REPRESENT NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE, HIGH POINT. ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF IMMIGRANT REFUGEES. MOSTLY FROM EAST AFRICA. MANY OF WHICH ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT AGGRESSIVE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE VERY VALID CONCERNS. THIS IS NOT EASY STUFF THAT WE'RE CALLED UPON NOW TO, TO MAKE DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU COLLEAGUES AS WELL. I THINK THE AMENDED BILL BEFORE US, RESPONDS TO MANY NOT ALL OF THE VALID CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING. AND WE'VE SEEN VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS PROPOSE IDEAS BECAUSE THEY CARE. WE'VE SEEN US TAKE POSITIONS AND ATTEMPT TO STEP OUTSIDE OF OUR COMFORT ZONES. REPRESENTING OUR CONSTITUENTS BEST INTEREST. TRYING TO GOVERN FROM A MAJORITARIAN PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE THESE ARE VALID CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. I WANT TO THANK OUR COLLEAGUES FOR ALL THE WORK THAT GOT US TO THIS POINT. HERE WE ARE. THAT SAID. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION TODAY. I BELIEVE THIS PILOT PROGRAM PROVIDES OUR CITY A NEEDED SAFETY TOOL WITH STRONG DATA AND PRIVACY PROTECTIONS AND IT REFLECTS A VERY LIMITED PROGRAM. NOT ONLY SET OUT AND DEFINED IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE CURRENT CONVERSATIONS AND DELIBERATIONS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. BUT ALSO, PRIOR RELATED TECHNOLOGIES. EARLIER LAST YEAR WHEN WE ORIGINALLY AUGHT RAOEUSZED THE SERVE FOR -- AUTHORIZED THE CCTV, I'M PROUD TO PUT SECURITY SAFEGUARDS INSURING THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, WE'LL BE PROVIDING. BECAUSE OF THAT EARLIER WORK. ARE BAKED INTO THE BASE PROPOSAL THAT ARE GOING TODAY. WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AMENDING IT AND IN MY VIEW MAKING IT EVERYONE BETTER. AND SO, THIS IS, TO COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMONS EARLY POINT. IT IS AND CAN BE AN IMPORTANT CRIME FIGHTING TOOL AND IT CAN ALSO BE A HELPFUL INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. BECAUSE WE HEAR CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS TIRED OF PROPERTY CRIME, TIRED OF HAVING THEIR HOMES SHOT UP. TIRED OF, THEFT. AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT REFLECTING SEATTLE'S VALUES OF COLLABORATION AND LOOKING OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. OUR CITY IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED FROM USING TOOLS LIKE THIS AS A MEANS TO WORK WITH AGENCIES LIKE I.C.E., AND OUR CITY WILL LIMIT ITS USE AS A TOOL TO KEEP EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. AND THIS TOOL FOR SPD IN THIS CASE AND I'M CONFIDENT, I TOO SHARE THE CONFIDENCE AND POLICE CHIEF BARNES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROBUST COMPREHENSIVE PROTECTIONS BAKED INTO THIS LEGISLATION ARE FAITHFULLY AND STEADFAST FULLY EXECUTED, STEADFAST FULLY PROBABLY NOT A WORD. BUT IMPLEMENTED. INCLUDING THE PIECE OF PAUSING. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS RINCK AND KETTLE FOR THE INCLUDING YOUR AMENDMENT TO ALLOW US TO PAUSE IF WE RECEIVE ANY OF THOSE SUBPOENAS OR ANY MECHANISMS INDICATING THAT THIS, WE'RE BEING REQUESTED BY FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES. THIS BILL IS BETTER BECAUSE OF YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR LEADERSHIP. AS A FORMER PRACTICING TECHNOLOGY ATTORNEY, DATA PROTECTION, LAWYER, AND SOMEONE WHO JUST GEEKS OUT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY GENERALLY. I THINK THAT THIS LIMITED USE AND DEPLOYMENT OF TECHNOLOGY IN SEATTLE IS IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY AS AMENDED. FOR ME PERSONALLY IF I SENSE IN ANY WAY THAT THIS PILOT PROGRAM IS BEING USED IMPROPERLY, OR NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STRICT GUARDRAILS WE LAID OUT. I WILL BE AMONG THE FIRST TO CALL FOR ITS IMMEDIATE SECESSION. ALSO AS VICE CHAIR OF OUR COUNCIL COMMITTEE I TAKE MY ROLE FOR OVERSIGHT VERY SERIOUSLY. I COMMIT TO ENSURING THIS TECHNOLOGY IS USED BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PROPERLY, AND IS NOT, A COERCIVE TOOLS BY THE ACTORS OF THE OTHER WASHINGTON. FINALLY I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CHAIR KETTLE OUR OWN CENTRAL STAFF ANALYSIS ON THIS TOPIC IN THE CASE OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SHERIFF KETTLE YOUR LEADERSHIP. THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL. THIS IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS. BUT IT WILL HELP INVESTIGATE SOME CRIME. FOR THOSE REASONS I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> I WANT TO START, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE WHO SHOWED UP TODAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK, THERE WERE 105. WIZ KEEPING TRACK TOO. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS DIUS ENOUGH THAT KNOW WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHEN PEOPLE DON'T COME OUT THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY. FIRST OF ALL I HEARD A LOT OF MISINFORMATION HERE TODAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE GOT THEIR INFORMATION BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT I LOOKED AT. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY BEING A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE WE VOTED THIS OUT OF COMMITTEE. AND READ THE MATERIAL. I DID READ THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS POLICY BRIEFING MEMO. THANK YOU DIRECTOR WHEELER SMITH. I LOOKED AT THE THREE ARTICLES AND YOU TUBE THAT WAS PRESENTED. I WANT TO THANK THE SEATTLE POLICE COMMISSION. I READ THEIR LETTER AND THAT WAS ON SEPTEMBER 4th. AND I READ THE CHIEF'S RESPONSE DATED SEPTEMBER 5th IN RESPONSE TO THEIR SEPTEMBER 4th LETTER. YESTERDAY WE GOT FIVE NEW AMENDMENTS THAT WERE INTRODUCED AND WE WERE BRIEFED ON THEM YESTERDAY AND I GOT A CHANCE TO SIT AND TALK TO FOLKS ABOUT ALL OF THAT AND WHAT WE HEARD. I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND HAVE HEARD FROM OUR COMMUNITY. WHETHER WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CAMERA VESTS, SHOT SPOTTER, I'VE SEEN IT ALL, I'VE HEARD IT AUTOMAKER. BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON ON HIS WORDS AND THE FACT THAT IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS WHEN YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON, HOLLINGSWORTH AND SAKA, OF COLOR. I JUST WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH I KNOW IT WAS HARD FOR YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION YOU MADE. AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD LONG TALKS ABOUT RACE, POLITICS, VIOLENCE, WE'VE ALSO HAD LONG TALKS ABOUT RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES. PRIVILEGE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. I KNOW IT WASN'T EASY FOR YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DID TODAY. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE AN UP AND COMING LEADER BECAUSE I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN IN DANGER. HAS BEEN TARGETED, HUNTED EENSL AVED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS COUNTRY. SO MAYBE SOME OF YOU FEEL DIFFERENT ABOUT A DATA BREACH. I TELL YOU WHAT I FEEL ABOUT. I AM WORKING AND DEALING WITH DEATH. GUN VIOLENCE, VIOLENT CRIME, INCARCERATION. RACIAL INEQUITY, RACIAL TARGETING, IN OUR COMMUNITIES. EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S A POLITICAL ACT AND I LEARNED THIS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. TO GET UP AT 65 AND BE A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER OF COLOR COMMUNITY. AS A MEMBER OF THE LATINA. I DON'T GET TO SIT DOWN. OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT HAD THE LUXURY OF CALLING 911. OUR PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED. I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION. WE GOT DEATH, THREATS AGAIN AND I WROTE THEM DOWN. FIVE. ONE REGARDING A GUN. FOUR TO OUR PERSONALS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR JOB. NOW I THANK THAT YOU'RE ALL ALLIES AND YOU CARE ABOUT US, I GUESS WE'RE BIPROXS NOW. THANK YOU. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE. MY DAUGHTERS DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY, MY BROTHERS, MY SISTER. SAKA THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE GREW UP. WHERE WE WALK AS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND DEALT WITH THIS. SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT A DATA BREACH. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE LEGISLATIONS AND THE VOICES YOU HEARD IN COMMITTEE AND THEN SOME TO MAKE IT RIGHT. IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM. AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON SAID IT IS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL. NO ONE EVER SAID A CAMERA STOPS VIOLENCE. AND YOU CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE TRUMP REGIME. WE ALL WATCH THE NEWS. WE GET IT. WE KNOW. I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH FEAR, I'M GOING TO GO WITH FACTS. I'M GOING TO GO WITH SUBJECT MATTER, EXPERTISE, KNOWLEDGE AND RESPECT FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM. FOR THOSE OF YOU, I HOPE YOU CAN BE RESPECTFUL TO ME THE WAY I'VE BEEN TO YOU TO LISTEN TO YOU FOR OVER THREE HOURS. WHEN I'VE BEEN IN UP IN THIS DIUS FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I GOT TO WITNESS SOME BEHAVIOR. IT COMES WITH A LOT AND I'M TIRED OF IT. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL TODAY. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR ALL THEIR COMMENTS BECAUSE THESE ARE REALLY HARD DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND ESPECIALLY TODAY. I WANT TO SAY WE ALL AGREE ON THE EGREGIOUS TACTICS OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT POTENTIAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WHICH IS WHY I SAID EARLIER, WE PUT GUARDRAILS IN PLACE OF THE ORIGINAL CCTV AT THE TIME AND NOW FOR THIS EXPANSION THAT WE'RE TAKING UP TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES BEING EXPERIENCED ACROSS THE CITY. WHAT ABOUT THOSE RESIDENTS DEALING WITH FIRES SHOT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HEAR FROM ON A REGULAR BASIS. ON A DAILY BASIS. WHAT ABOUT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. MANY THAT ARE FROM OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHO ARE EXPERIENCING PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES WHEN THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. WHAT ABOUT THOSE PARENTS WHO'S CHILDREN HAVE BEEN MURDERED OR INJURED AND WHO'S CRIMES HAVE NOT BEEN SOLVED YET. JUST THIS WEEKEND ALONE, A 17-YEAR-OLD WAS SHOT IN MY DISTRICT AT COLLIN PARK AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE. NOW I UNDERSTAND THESE CAMERAS ARE NOT GOING TO BE AT COLLIN PARK BUT THESE CAMERAS ARE GOING TO BE IN PLACES WHERE WE'VE HEARD PUBLIC SAFETY AND THESE CRIMES ARE HAPPENING. TO ME, THIS IS A CRIME SOLVING TOOL. I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THIS VIDEO IS AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AFTER FIVE DAYS. UNLESS IT IS BEING PULLED FOR A CRIME IN THE CITY. THAT'S ANOTHER GUARDRAIL. AS A LATINA WOMAN WHO GREW UP IN THE INNER CITY AND AS A MOTHER WHO'S KIDS AND THEIR PEERS WERE INVOLVED AS A SCHOOL SHOOTING AND AS SOMEONE WHO DID KNOW YOUR RIGHTS EDUCATION AFTER SEPTEMBER 11th ANISIMOVA VERSE REU -- AN ANNIVERSARY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN SEVERAL DAYS. I DO NOT NEED TO BE TOLD THAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. I AM SO GLAD YOU'RE PASSIONATE, YOU HEAR I'M PASSIONATE TOO. WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE ON CERTAIN THINGS. BUT WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AND LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ, I SAT HERE FOR THREE HOURS LISTENING TO EVERYONE RESPECTFULLY. BECAUSE I CARE, I CARE THOUGH YOU MAY NOT BELIEVE IT, WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND I ALSO CARE ABOUT THE PHONE CALLS AND ALL THE E-MAILS THAT WE GOT. AND THE CONVERSATIONS IN COMMUNITY. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION. AND THIS WILL NOT BE THE END OF THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE THERE WILL BE EVALUATION OF THIS LEGISLATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE COMMUNITY POLICE COMMISSION, THE OIG AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO USE THIS WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO USE THESE TOOLS ESPECIALLY AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE STILL UNDER STAFFED AT SPD. SO THIS CANNOT BE AN ALL OR NOTHING. WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, WE HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ON SOME THINGS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS TOGETHER. AND I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO CHECK OUT BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET THE RESULTS THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE BEAT BACK THIS ADMINISTRATION THEY WANT US TO BE DIVIDED. AND WE CANNOT DO THAT. YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO, IT'S YOUR RIGHT BUT I DON'T WANT TO. SO YOU CAN DISAGREE WITH MY VOTE TODAY. AND I STILL WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TIMOTHY. AND I'M GLAD YOU CAME HERE TODAY. AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE OUR CONVERSATIONS. AND I RESPECT YOU. SO, I WILL BE VOTING ON THIS TODAY AND I DO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE THE LAST WORD. >> I THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND FROM WHERE THEY COME FROM. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HEAR IT. QUICKLY I JUST WANTED TO SAY, NO COMMENTS WERE MADE RELATED TO ALPR. THERE'S ONLY 43 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESSED THE. A THIRD ARE FROM THE INTEL INVESTIGATORS GROUP AND A THIRD WERE FROM THE CRIME CENTER. WHEN THEY ACCESS ALP DATA THEY HAVE TO ENTER THE CASE NUMBER AS WELL AS A BRIEF STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE OR REASONABLE SUSPICION FOR THE VEHICLE AND THE INVOLVEMENT IN A CRIME. I HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. THERE ARE SEVERAL PIECES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS. WE KEEP ADDRESSING THEM. BY THE WAY THERE'S NOT 400 CAMERAS WITHIN THE CCTV PROGRAM. I REALLY APPRECIATE. AT THE SAME TIME I HAVE TO MOTE THAT WHEN IT SAYS COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE OVERWHELMING AGAINST EXPANSION. THAT'S QUITE CLEAR BECAUSE WE DO OUR OWN OUTREACH. AND YOU KNOW, AS NOTED TOO, YOU KNOW, THE EXPANSION INCREASES MISTRUST OF THE CITY AND SPD, WHAT ALSO INCREASES MISTRUST OF SEATTLE AND SPD, IS THE INABILITY TO AGREE WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CHALLENGES TO THE ABILITY THAT WE CAN. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW THE CITY HAS NOT FULFILLED ITS PROMISE -PS -- PROMISES TO LISTEN COMMUNITY. I HEAR DAY IN AND DAY OUT, DAY IN AND DAY OUT, SO, I MAKE THAT PROMISE. I CARRY THROUGH ON THAT PROMISE. AND FOR THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, WE FOLLOW AS STATED IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY TO BALANCE POTENTIAL LEGAL SYSTEM BENEFITS WITH STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES AND SAFEGUARDS AGAINST DIFFERENT IMPACTS ON -- MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I REALIZE WE'RE A COUNTRY IN CRISIS. SOMETHING I'VE SEEN AROUND THE WORLD AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. 2003, 2004 I WAS IN BAGHDAD THINKING HOW LUCKY ARE WE AS A COUNTRY TO HAVE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, OUR CONSTITUTION AND INSTITUTIONS. I DON'T SAY THAT ANYMORE. OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TAKEN ON AN AUTHORITARIAN NATION AND APPROACH. I ALSO RECOGNIZE AND I HEAR YOU ABOUT THE TIE TO OUR SITUATION HERE IN SEATTLE AND I'VE HEARD AND READ THE CONNECTIONS MADE BY MANY TO COUNCIL BILLS 121052 AND 121053. I UNDERSTOOD THE POINTS AND I ALSO KNOW THE EFFORTS MADE AND THESE TWO BILLS TO PROTECT THE CITY AND TO CREATE A SAFE BASE. THESE BILLS INCORPORATE THE SEATTLE WAY. SEPARATELY, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY. I WANT TO NOTE THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE ISSUES OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NATIONAL GUARD DEPLOYMENTS AND COMMITTEE DURING CHAIR COMMENT -PT -- AND WITH A STATEMENT RELEASED LAST WEEK. IT IS ABOUT PROFESSIONALISM. IT IS ABOUT PROFESSIONALISM. IT IS ABOUT HAVING A HIGH STANDARD. WE DO THAT. SPD DOES NOT USE FACE COVERINGS. THEY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES. THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. THINGS THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING WITH FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE MILITARY IS FOR AMERICA'S DEFENSE. IT'S NOT FOR PARTISAN AND POLITICAL DEPLOYMENTS THAT ARE PERFORMATIVE. YOU KNOW THE NATIONAL GUARD WE DO NOT NEED THE NATIONAL GUARD HERE IN SEATTLE. THE NAVY SENT ME TO THE NAVAL COMMAND. WE DON'T NEED THEM. I DON'T NEED SOME PLANNER IN THE NATIONAL GUARD BUREAU IN THE PENTAGON. WE DO NOT NEED THAT. WHAT WE DO NEED IS ATF, DEA, FBI TO STOP THE FLOW OF GUNS AND DRUGS UP THE I4 CORRIDOR. A PROGRAM TO AID, OUR EQUIPMENT FOR SEATTLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND IMPORTANTLY TIED TO THAT IS SUPPORT FEMA. WE DON'T NEED THE NATIONAL GUARD. WE DO NOT NEED WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS PROPLGS. -- PROMISING. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED. I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE RISK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT A RISK BASED ON OUR CCTV AND RTCC BILLS IN ARP2 THAT INCORPORATE THE SEATTLE WAY. THE SEATTLE VALUES. THE AMENDMENT FROM TODAY FURTHER ADDS. LASTLY, WE HAVE A CHARTER RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY TO OUR CITY. OVER THE LAST DECADE WE HAVE FAILED IN THAT. RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THAT SAFETY. WE HAVE MADE THAT CONNECTION. OUR TECHNOLOGY BILL SUCH AS ARP IN 24 AND ARE MAKING AN IMPACT IN 25. I'M ALREADY SEEING DATA. I'M ALREADY SEEING DATA ON THESE BILLS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE PRECINCTS. I'VE TALKED TO SERGEANTS, I'VE TALKED TO LIEUTENANTS ON THESE PIECES IN EVIDENCE WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN CID JUST WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS. COUNCIL BILLS 121052 AND 121053 WILL FURTHER AID US IN OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. SO COLLEAGUES, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS BILL. BOTH BILLS TO BE FRANK. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU. I AM NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. SO WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE ADOPTION OF THE APH*EPBDED BILL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> 7 IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE BILL PASSES AS AMENDED AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF. >> AND WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM THREE INTO THE RECORD. >> COUNCIL BILL RELATED TO SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND IMPLEMENTATION. AND TO O2025 EXECUTIVE OVERVIEW. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE BILL PASS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND THE FACT THAT THIS BILL IS BASICALLY PAIRED WITH COUNCIL BILL 121053. WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE VARIOUS POINTS THAT RELATE TO RTCC AND THE CCTV, WITH ALL THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD. ALL THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN PASSING THIS BILL. THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? I'M NOT SEEING ANY COMMENTS ON, NOT SEEING ANY HANDS UP HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADJUST AN OBSERVATION HERE. SDOT CURRENTLY OPERATING CAMERAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY IN THE WORLD. SDOT CONTROLS THE CAMERAS AND THEY'RE A TOOL. INSURANCE COMPANIES USE SOFTWARE TO CONSTANTLY RECORD ALL CAMERA FEEDS LIVE. AND THOSE RECORDINGS GET UP LOADED ON TO YOU TUBE, INSTAGRAM, IN COMPILATIONS OF CAR CRASHES CAUGHT ON CAMERA. INSURANCE COMPANIES USE THOSE RECORDINGS AND THEIR INVESTIGATIONS TO DETERMINE FAULT IN AUTOMOTIVE CRASHES. AS IT STANDS, THE ACTIONS OF THE RESOLUTION IN THESE CAMERAS IS NOT VERY CLEAR. NOT CLEAR ENOUGH TO MAKE OUT INDIVIDUAL FACES BUT IT CAN IDENTIFY SPECIFIC VEHICLES. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THE FOOTAGE OF THESE SDOT CAMERAS IS ALREADY BEING WIDELY USED FOR MANY PURPOSES AND IT'S ALSO BEING PRIVATIZED. TO ME THAT'S IMPORTANT CONTEXT AS WE LOOK INTO THIS LEGISLATION. AND BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY ALREADY AVAILABLE FOOTAGE THAT WILL BE USED IN, ITS USED BY PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT. I'VE HAD THE OCCASION TO GO TO VARIOUS CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. LAST FALL WENT TO WASHINGTON, D.C. VERY PROGRESSIVE CITY. AND VISITED THEIR REALTIME CRIME CENTER. THEY CALL IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT THAT HAS 44, 44,000 PRIVATE FEEDS GOING INTO IT FROM ROADS AND ALSO BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS ETC. SO WHAT WE ARE, TO ME WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT IS USING EVERY SINGLE TOOL IN OUR TOOL BOX TO HELP KEEP OUR, RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES SAFER. AVAILING OURSELVES OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS IN USE IN VARIOUS CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. I INVITE TO BRING OTHER COMMENTS. YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. >> COLLEAGUES, WE DISCUSSED THIS IN DEPTH. AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, THANK YOU. >> OKAY. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> NO. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> 7 IN FAVOR, 2 OPPOSED. >> THE BILL PASSES AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF. >>> ALL RIGHT WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM FOUR INTO THE RECORD. >> THE FINANCE AND COMMITTEE COUNCIL BILL 1210 CONTRACTS AND MANY PROVISIONS OF THE ROSTER AND CONTRACTOR BOND PROCESSES. TO ALIGN WITH THE STATE LAW. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE BILL PASS. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS, AS MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE YOU ARE RECOGNIZED TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD BE INTERESTING IN HOLDING THE REMAINING BILLS UNTIL NEXT WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING. AS SAYING YOU'RE AT 6:30 AND YOU HAVE A MEMBER WITH A HARD 7. >> WE WILL GO AS FAR AS WE CAN, UNTIL, THIS IS ON. I BELIEVE MY STAFF HAS GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH YOUR STAFF TO FIND OUT IF THIS HAS TO HAPPEN TODAY. I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THIS PARTICULAR BILL. >> PLEASE DO NOT IMPUGN MY STAFF AND MYSELF. >> IT IS MY INTENTION TO GO THROUGH AND GET THROUGH AND GET AS MUCH DONE AS WE CAN. THERE ARE THREE MORE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND WE WILL END IN TIME FOR OUR COLLEAGUE TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE ON TIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THE BILL BEFORE US IS COUNCIL BILL 121046. WHICH ALLOWS THE CITY OF SEATTLE TO ENGAGE IN THE SMALL WORKS ROSTER THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE STATE RATHER THAN HAVING BUSINESSES REQUIRED TO SIGN UP FOR MANY SMALL WORK ROSTERS. THIS ALLOWS FOR ONE. IT IS AN ALLOWANCE. NOT A REQUIREMENT AND A GOOD IDEA. I URGE YOUR YES VOTE. THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> JUAREZ. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM FIVE INTO THE RECORD. >> THE REPORT OF LAND USE COMMITTEE AGENDA ITEM 5. RELATEING TO LAND USE AND ZONING. AMENDING CHAPTER 23.42 OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT. TO REZONE LAND IN THE LAKE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE BILL PASS. >> SOLOMON AS CHAIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD MY TIME TO COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> I AM SO EMBARRASSED. I'M SO SORRY. I AM EATING A PIECE OF CANDY. OKAY, THIS IS EMBARRASSING. SO I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'LL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF. AGAIN, LAKE CITY COMMUNITY CENTER, 10 YEARS IN THE MAKING. OVER 10 YEARS IN THE MAKING. FIRST IN SEATTLE TO DEVELOP HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER. TWO CITY DEPARTMENTS ALL WORK TOGETHER IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, DEPARTMENT OF REC, SEATTLE PUBLIC LIBRARIES. THE TWO BOTTOM FLOORS WILL BE A COMMUNITY CENTER. WORK OUT ROOM, GYM AND WE HAVE A CHILDREN'S CENTER. WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 113 NEW HOMES ABOVE. THESE ARE LARGE HOMES. THESE ARE NOT TWO BEDROOM. TWO, THREE, AND FOUR BEDROOMS TO SERVE WORKING FAMILIES. THE HOMES WILL BE AFFORDABLE WITH THE AVERAGE INCOME AT 58MI. SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING FOR US. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH CHILD CARE. THEY WILL PROVIDE HEALTH CARE AND CHILD CARE. CONSTRUCTION IS SUPPOSED TO START IN 2027 BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN MOVE DIRT A LOT FASTER BECAUSE WE NEED THAT HOUSING IN THE CITY AND IN D5. WITH THE LIBRARY AND THE FARMERS MARKET RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE'RE COMMITTED THAT IT WILL NOT BE A GHOST TOWN. AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE WANT. I DON'T HAVE TO YIELD, I'M DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> ALL RIGHT I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS RAISED. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE PASS THE ROLE ON THE PASSAGE OF THE BILL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> YES. >> NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. >> THE BILL PASSES AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE. >> AT THE BILL RIGHT GOLF COMPLEX AT JEFFERSON PARK. PORTIONS OF THE NETTING AND POLLS WILL EXCEED ZONE HEIGHT LIMITS. AND ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS TRESZ PASS SOERGTED WITH RESTORED THESE LOCATION. AS PROPOSED THE PROJECT REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL UNDER SEATTLE MUNICIPAL CODE 23.76.064. WHICH ALSO AUTHORIZED THE COUNCIL TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR CITY FACILITIES. SEATTLE PARKS REQUESTS A WAIVER OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ALLOW THE POLES AND NETTING TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMIT. THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL AND ISSUED ITS ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION ON JULY 21, 2025. AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. ON SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2025, LAND USE COMMITTEE WAS BRIEFED ON THE PROJECT. HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL TO GRANT THE MODIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS CONDITIONED ON THE CLERK FILE. I WILL ALSO ADD THAT AT THAT MEETING THERE WERE SOME REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION MADE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION. ONE OF WHICH IS TO LOOK AT THE, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE NETTING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE NETTING AT THE DRIVING RANGE AT THE BILL RIGHT COMPLEX. AS WELL AS TREE PRESERVATION. IN ADDITION TO GROUNDS MAINTENANCE TO REMOVE THE BLACKBERRIES THEY'RE ENCROACHING ON THE 24th AVENUE SIDE TO ACTUALLY MADE THAT COURSE MORE PLAYABLE. IF YOU WILL. SO THOSE REQUESTS WERE MADE AT COMMITTEE. AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE IS FOR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF 314536. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE GRANTING OF THE CONDITION. >> KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RINCK. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER SOLOMON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES AYE. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER JUAREZ. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> NINE IN FAVOR. NONE OPPOSED. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE FINDINGS, CONCLUSIONS AND DECISIONS ON MY BEHALF. ALL RIGHT, THERE WERE NO ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND THERE'S NOT A RESOLUTION FOR INTRODUCTION AND ADOPTION TODAY. SO, COLLEAGUES, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT, THE, WE DID IT. WE GOT THROUGH ALL THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STICKING WITH US. IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGS WORTH EXCUSED ABSENCE WILL BE RESCINDED. HEARING NO OBJECTION. COUNCIL MEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH SEPTEMBER 9 EXCUSED ABSENCE IS NOW RESCINDED BECAUSE SHE IS HERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. WE'VE REACHED THE END OF TODAY'S AGENDA. THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS SCHEDULED ON SEPTEMBER 16 AT 2:00 P.M., IT IS NOW 6:37, THANKS EVERYBODY FOR STICKING WITH US. HEARING NO FURTHER