New Prague City Council - Tuesday, February 17th, 2026
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Um and then on the 2026 project, which is our 10th Avenue Southeast project, uh we uh are obtaining the last of our survey now that the snow is gone. Um so we can get the last little bay curve and um keep pushing that forward. So my next item on the agenda is in regard to the 2026 project. So before moving into that, I'll see if there are any questions for me. >> Any questions on the city engineer projects update? [snorts] All right. If not, then we'll go to item eight, the 2026 street and utility improvement project resolution. >> Yes. So, uh just kind of going through this um with the 2026 street improvement project, uh [clears throat] we are using uh funding through MINDOT state aid that you receive on your municipal state aid system. Um the the balance uh on the uh account um is currently about $480,000 while the estimated um contribution from that fund toward the project um is estimated at $881,000. Uh so as as you can see there's a shortfall as far as um the amount of funding available to the city at this point versus how much the um project is going to need. Um, we have had two two uh large state aid projects uh in the last couple years that have kind of depleted that fund down because you currently receive about $410,000 per year. Um, so I do have uh in your packet a resolution for uh advancing um funding from future years toward the current um current year. Uh this uh as you may see in here, I I noted $881,000 our estimate. I have a $950,000 estimated dispersement. That's more just to give a little bit of flexibility if uh for some reason um the uh the costs don't come where we hope they do. Um or if we're able to use potentially some of that um funding towards other um parts of the project that maybe we consider to be non-eligible during the feasibility stage. Uh so um to uh get in advance it does require a resolution from um the city of New Prairie which would then get forwarded to uh to Mindot um it does note in here this is a first come first-s serve basis and does not guarantee the availability of funds. Um I did talk to state aid last week and I don't expect that to be an issue but it doesn't mean that some large project won't kind of push their way forward ahead in front of you. But um with that said uh uh we would want to advance funds um so that we can uh um expend those on the project that is proposed for this summer. >> Uh so that that I do have a resolution in your packet >> Chris. Um >> yes, >> for advancing those funds just for information sake, does that mean that we would not have any funds given to us next year or is that advancement of funds spread out over a number of years? So we would just receive reduced amounts for a few years. >> Uh it would be it'd be the first. So you just would not receive any um funding towards your state aid construction fund next year. Um, if our request uh the request is $470,000, you currently receive $410,000 per year. And that amount does change annually. Uh, so it could be 400,000, it could be 420,000. It's going to be somewhere around that number next year most likely, but uh you would uh likely um not receive any funds towards your construction balance next year. and then uh whatever is left over um estimating somewhere around $60,000 uh would then come off the following year's aotment. Um so yeah, you would you would likely not receive any construction funds next year and and then a reduced amount the following year um if uh costs come in as projected and um there's no major changes to the amount that you receive. Um I did note in here you would still receive your uh aotment towards maintenance. Um, so those you may not be familiar, but you do receive uh a certain amount of money uh on an annual basis and that is split up 75% 25% between construction and maintenance. Um believe 7525 or 8020. I had to confirm that. But uh um so approximately $135,000 goes towards maintenance and you would still continue to receive that funding um next year and and following after that, but um yeah, it just be towards your construction balance. So, um, at this point, we don't have any state aid projects identified, um, unless that was potentially used towards a a turnback project that we've been looking at for, um, for next year as well. Uh, I will note that you can advance up to five years of funding um, or I believe it's five years or $4 million. Um, $4 million. So, it doesn't affect you guys, but that's just what's uh, written into state statute as far as we can advance. So if for some reason you needed funding next year, you could do another advance um using following year's funding if needed. >> Could we possibly take a little off of everything for the next five years or you don't want to do that? >> Uh I believe it would all have to be used at one time. I'm not that's my understanding. And um there wouldn't be probably much benefit towards it coming off a little bit at a time unless we had five really small state aid projects, >> right? um coming up. But uh $410,000 per year um doesn't go terribly far towards a construction project. So um I think on this year's project we're using uh the 2025 project, I'm sorry. I think our total stadia contribution is closer to $1.2 million or $1.3 million somewhere in that range. So um considerably higher. So that's um what you need on normal project is is typically two or three years worth of uh dollars that you receive. >> Is this different than that grant that we are applying for? >> It is. So in addition to the uh state aid um funds that are to be used on the project, we are also um expecting a local share um towards construction and the the the local share of the project is what has been um submitted towards the local road improvement program grant and that is the program we won't know about until um till I guess beginning of May, end of April as far as whether or not the city is successful with that request. Uh so yeah that is that is a separate program separate separate item. It is possible that if you receive um enough grant dollars that you could lower the amount of money you need to take from your state aid system but any money that's not encumbered by that project would just be released. So, if we request $470,000, but we only need um $400,000 of it, that additional $70,000 would just get released back to the state and you would no longer be needing to advance that. So, it's only um it can only be used in the year that it's requested. >> So, they started any of the traffic analysis or anything yet for that grant that I think we were required to do. Uh as far as that, the only time we only reason we would need to do the um the traffic analysis if you are successful with that grant. >> Okay. >> Uh what we have done at this point is since we were in town doing uh traffic counts uh on Alton Avenue is we did um obtain traffic counts on Third Street Southeast so that if that uh uh traffic analysis is required, we have uh kind of our fieldwork complete and can move straight into the report. So, but that that's only needed if we use state aid dollars towards the round the mini roundabout, which at this point um we we are not using state aid money towards the roundabout improvements, only towards the the pavement improvements instead. >> Okay. [clears throat] >> Any other questions? >> The resolution I think I think principal is [clears throat] all wrong, but >> Oh, yeah. Um, [snorts] so wait, just I'll make a motion to approve the uh resolution CC 26021701 with the change of the word principal. I think >> not been in banking for a while, but yes, believe it's >> P. >> Yeah, >> it's P. >> We will make that change on the signature copy. [clears throat] >> Okay, I got a motion and I guess I'll make a second on that motion. I just did. >> Oh, you did? Yeah. >> Oh, sorry, Sean. >> So, I got a motion by Bruce Wolf, second by Sean Ryan. Uh, any other questions or comments for Chris? >> If not, all in favor say, "I." >> I. Any opposition? Okay. Passes 40. Thanks, Chris. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Okay. Ordinances for introduction. Ken, are you going to take this? >> I'll take that. So um this item actually partially partially relates to item I think 11B on the agenda relating to approving actions by the EDA. U so to give you a little background on that the uh EDA had taken action and approved and the council had also approved back in December uh sale of two of our final uh lots in the industrial park to Aventus Investments. And uh over the course of the past couple of months, working with them, uh what had been a two separate development agreement and two separate lot purchases for two separate buildings has turned into uh one building at 50,000 square feet, which would equal the square footage of the prior two buildings that would encompass uh coverage of the two lots together. And uh the EDA had uh retaken look at this with a public hearing at their meeting um here in February. and ultimately they recommend uh moving forward with uh the new lot sale uh resolution which you'll see later in the agenda. But as part of that discussion, we have a uh process to combine the two lots together and to vacate a drainage and utility easement uh which is a process that requires your action at the council. So that is actually the item we're looking at right now. Um, so it seems a little out of order, but um, in order to have those two lots combined, um, this would allow that building to be uh, constructed and then obviously this easement vacation ordinance will get rid of the easement where the building will sit over the middle of the two lots. So, um, we're just [clears throat] looking to uh do two things tonight. pass a resolution setting a public hearing date uh which by our uh city charter and state statute will have to be basically uh one day short of a month from tonight and then also um introduce the ordinance for the vacation of that easement. There are no utility easements or utilities actually under that um utility easement at this point. is basically reserved in case the lots were developed independently. [snorts] But with the uh change in the plans to have this uh lot combination happen, we do not any longer need uh that drainage utility easement and the building can go over the middle of the two lots once they're combined. So, um that's what we're looking at tonight. Pass a resolution to set the hearing and introduce the ordinance to vacate those items so we can take final action on March 16th. I should note these are contingent actions on if the sale doesn't actually go through, we want to make sure that we don't vacate the easement and combine the lots. So this is contingent upon the closing actually occurring because if that didn't happen, we don't want to get rid of the easement and lot line. >> Is that wording in the documents? >> It is in the documents. >> So the first thing you want to do is the first reading of the ordinance. >> I would say yes. Let's do the first reading of the ordinance and then follow it up with setting the hearing date for the hearing. >> You need two different motions. >> This is uh just a quick question. It's for the specific building that we've seen the drawings of, right? I mean, >> yes. >> Okay. I >> Yeah. And they're in they're in the packet later in the packet. >> And if they changed anything, square footage or a different business idea or something, then it would have to come back through. >> Yes. So any change in the development agreement would require both and council to >> re amend that. >> Yeah. And that's why we're here. Yeah. Because it changed a little bit from the first time. We're back again. So yeah, if it changed again, you'd be [clears throat] back. >> Okay. >> I'll introduce ordinance um 358 vacating certain easements in the plat of New Prague Business Park 11th edition. >> Second. >> Okay. I got a motion by Rick Syler and second by Bruce Wolf to um approve the ordinance first reading of the ordinance number 358 vacating certain easements in the plat of New Prague Business Park 11th edition. There's no other questions. All in favor say I. I. >> I. Any opposition? Okay. Passes 4. Next we have a resolution we need to uh pass. And uh I guess I'll make a motion to for resolution number CC-26-02-17-02 setting a public hearing to vacate certain easements in the plat of the new business park 11th edition. >> I'll second. >> Okay. And I got a second by Sean Ryan. If there's no other questions, comments, all in favor say I. >> I. Any opposition? Okay. Passes 40. There's no ordinances for adoption. And now we're at resolutions. The first one, um, Bruce Rhyrs, I think you're going to take this one. >> Yeah, I'll take this one. [clears throat] >> Um, before you have a resolution authorizing the utilities commission to issue bonds for the new uh, generation facilities and related generation equipment for the west substation known as WES. Um, if you remember back in April of 2025, the council authorized the New Craig Utilities Commission to move forward with the construction of a new generation facility. Um, this facility is joint opportunity or yeah, joint opportunity with Simpa. New Prag's also a power provider. This project aligned with New Prague utilities need for additional generation to meet capacity requirements for the local utility but also provide needed generation to be available to the grid under a 20-year capacity contract with our wholesale power supplier. Um as the new PRA utilities commission nears the start of construction this spring of Wes and the installation of generation equipment this spring. Um we have also started the process of working with our municipal advisor allers and bond [clears throat] count council um Katuck rock to prepare bonding um that will be needed for this project funding. Um I think this project will probably need the bonding to be completed either really late here in 2026 or Q1 of 27 is what I'm estimating. We just want to get this in place so that should anything change um for instance rates that we would have everything ready to go as far as moving forward with the bonding process. Um the the resolution declares the city's intent to exercise the powers granted in state sections. It's state statute 453.51 and 45362 to a municipal power agency including but not limited to issuing bonds to finance facilities such as what we are doing here. Um this will also authorize the city to put the publication in the newspaper um declaring our intent to bond for that project. Staff recommendation is that um the council approve resolution CC 26021703 authorizing the new PRA [clears throat] authorizing new PREA to exercise the powers of a municipal power agency really granting the utilities commission the authorization to move forward with the bonding process. I also have uh Rebecca online should you have any questions for her um with Ellers and um I would also stand for any questions should you have any. >> Is this motion just uh or excuse me resolution specific to the new generation thing or are we authorizing the EDA to if they wanted to build a second one on the east part of town? >> No, that's the utilities you mean. or utilities, excuse me. >> No, this is >> as far as I'm aware, this is just for this project. >> Okay, >> that is correct. This is specifically for this project. >> Okay, thank you, Rebecca. >> Okay, any other questions? All right. I guess I'll make a motion to approve resolution number CC-26-02-17-03 authorizing the city of New Prague to exercise the powers of a municipal power agency. Um >> second. >> Okay, I got a second by Rick Syler. If there's no other questions, all in favor say I. I. >> I. Any opposition? Okay, passes 40. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Bruce. Uh, next is [clears throat] a resolution regarding the changing of the developer agreement regarding the two build building facility to one. Correct. >> Yes. And and combining lots. So, same terms that the council had approved back in December for the sale price. um same businesses within the building including Steel Head Outdoors and Guns are us. Um basically all the other terms remain the same other than uh the city uh will be uh completing a lot combination and then obviously the action we took earlier to vacate the drainage utility easement. So looking for uh your approval via resolution that would approve the actions taken by the economic development authority of new and uh their actions uh within their action approved the development agreement. So your resolution would also approve that uh development agreement um and their resolution that they approved back on February 11th. >> Okay. Anyone have any questions? Um, basically we're just uh redoing the developers agreement with the new uh site configuration instead of two. >> I I should note that we do have a representative here tonight if you have any questions about it. I will um make the motion that we pass um resolution CC-26-02-17-04, resolution approving certain actions by the New Prague Economic Development Authority. >> Second. >> Okay. I got a motion by Rick Syler, second by Bruce Wolf to pass this uh resolution. If there's no other comments, questions, all in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Any opposition? Passes 40. Good. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. 12. General Business Planning Commission vacancy. [clears throat] >> Uh yes, as you may remember, we did have an opening in the planning commission here starting on the 1st of the year. Uh we had a person move out of the district, I believe. Correct. >> Correct. >> So, uh we have been advertising, I guess, for the last couple months, and to this point, we haven't really seen any applicants at all, quite frankly. So, uh, you may remember, I guess you wouldn't, Chuck, back in 2022, we did pass a resolution that allowed for the council to place a second city council member on the planning commission. >> That way, um, we could continue to meet quorum at that point. And so, I guess if it's the council wishes, we will continue advertising for the planning commission vacancy. But if you all wanted to uh I guess temporarily place a second council member on the planning commission until we can find one um that would certainly be recommended so that way we can continue to meet our quorums of all of our boards. Our planning commission especially is one that has state deadlines that we have to meet for reviewing plats and whatnot that may come in and so them meeting quorum is of the utmost importance. >> Yes, I'd like to do it. >> Well, I got a question for you. Um, >> is there going to be another vacancy when June comes? >> Yes. >> So, we could have a problem again if we can't and I don't know who's coming off at that time. >> And it's entirely possible by that time. Everyone in town kind of knows that's that's when you look for vacancies. And so I I would hope usually our [clears throat] planning commission um the last couple years has been one of our better applied for boards. Um, and so I guess I am hopeful that come May we'll get applications in again, but yeah, I I couldn't speak to the number of applicants that may or may not. >> So, we're just going to have two vacancies. The one that's vacant now and then and one more person is term is ending. >> So, yes, I I guess I would recommend that this second city council member kind of like it becomes a temporary hold that it'll they'll stay there until we're able to find someone to fill the seat. Yes. >> Okay. All right. Okay. Rick, you mentioned you would do it. >> Yep. I'm only a block away. >> Okay. Okay. I guess uh I'll make a motion to uh approve Rick Syler as the temporary uh commissioner on the planning commission uh vacancy. >> I'll second. >> We got a second by Sean Ryan. Any other questions, comments? All in favor say I. I. >> I. Any opposition passes 40. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Rick. And I guess yeah, I would continue continue to say for anyone watching, you are certainly free to apply. Um, and we will continue seeing seeking applications for the spot. So, >> okay, next thing, 250th American Revolution Celebration Update. >> Yeah, I kind of laid it out in the memo a little bit. As you may remember, in November, um, we had a community member come to the city council to discuss a possible celebration. at the time. Um, I [clears throat] recommended to the city that we could possibly help to form the committee that may oversee it, but that the city not itself direct directly get involved with planning or funding. Um, kind of since that time, a couple staff members I know have been reaching out to various organizations and people. Um, trying to find interest not only to be on the committee but to lead it. And uh, since that time there have we have had about three or four people who have expressed interest in being on the committee. though little to no desire to actually lead the committee um with some of them saying well why doesn't the city just take this [snorts] >> so I guess my question to the council is how much further do you want staff to pursue this initiative >> I don't >> I will say at this point I don't know what bandwidth we have obviously if this is something the council want us to do we'd find the bandwidth but it was not something we had planned on doing this year >> I would think that the commerce department would want this one >> chamber commerce I >> and I know we reached out to them. There didn't sound like there was a ton of interest. I don't know if they've got something else going on, but this committee themselves, it didn't sound like they were super [snorts] interested in being on this committee. I don't know what >> I mean we do still have the fireworks on the third that is already booked with uh by Paul [clears throat] Bush and uh >> correct >> and food trucks and everything on the 3. So that is is not an issue. The issue is does anything want to be done on the fourth? And I don't even know if it has to be has to be the fourth. Like if this committee decided they wanted to lump it all in on the third, I think it's more of just the original idea, if I understood it correctly, was some sort of community celebration that happened around the 250th anniversary of the American Revolution. Um beyond beyond that very idea, the idea was to form this committee of people interested in participating and then hand it off to the committee and let them do their fundraising, their planning, figure out what exactly they wanted to do. Like I said, we have gotten three or four community members who've expressed interest, but none of them really want to lead. They kind of want to take a backseat and just help here and there, as far as I can tell. Maybe one of them is listening now and is screaming at the computer that they want to lead it. But that was not [clears throat] the impression that we've got. >> Call in, please. [laughter] >> Well, I I I mean, just going back in time, the um I mean years ago thinking when [clears throat] Dinki was u kind of thought about and created um the emphasis kind of moved into Dozen as far as communities efforts and everything. So a lot of the emphasis on 4th of July has been taken kind of New Prague doesn't celebrate as aggressively I should say fourth of July as we do because we put so much effort in doseni the community does I think that's part of the challenge is that that's kind of well established now and the people that volunteer are already volunteering for that and to do another major one is difficult but um if anything I try to plant the seed for a few years from now when New Prey, the city of New Prey celebrates their anniversary, which is probably a little more um um [clears throat] relevant to the people here. I don't I don't >> not taking away from the our government's 250 anniversary, but that that's a little more practical for people and we already have established volunteer system kind of created for I would [clears throat] and I understand Mr. Bor's passion and his involvement in the pre prior cate celebration. So I think it's all worthwhile but it's certainly a sign of the times we don't have that kind of um community time or people volunteering time to do things. So it's just challenging. So I think for that reason I think we let it go. But that's my >> I would let it pass off to the Legion or to the Commerce Department. It's kind of their ball game. I mean, they could add it to the third. >> Okay. >> And that would be the lead. That'd be Paul. >> Sean, any input? >> No, I think I agree with both Bruce and Rick. I don't think city staff needs to add any more to their plate. >> Yeah. All right. So, I think that's probably the direction. Um, unless someone reaches out to to the city or to one of us and says, "Hey, you know, you know, I got some people who want to get involved in that stuff, we can probably address it then." >> And we we are certainly willing to help kind of, like I said, organi organize the committee. Like if you're like, "Hey, how do I reach out to this group or this group?" Like we we're certainly willing to help get contact information and that sort of thing. still if anybody wants to kind of pick this up. I think the city's been very uh collaborative on Dozinki over the many many years and and certainly have kind of made overtures to help with city services and things and if not free and reduce expenses and and trying to accommodate things and if something does get created we can certainly offer that same kind of help that kind of thing >> if staff is agree agree agreeing to that. >> Okay. >> Okay. Next. Miscellaneous. Um, >> nothing. >> Bruce. >> Nothing. >> Sean? >> Yeah. I just have a quick question on [clears throat] page 139. >> 140 here. It's the uh minutes from um the EDA board meeting, and I just want to know if I could get a little bit more detail on five, item five, the economic development strategic plan. Most notably, the EDA had some discussions regarding the goal of supporting housing opportunities and specifically the strategy to explore the possible consolidation of the EDA and the H. Um >> where right now the council acts as the HR. >> Correct. Yeah, that was that was really just so they've got their recently approved strategic plan. Um, and there was just kind of discussions on where we go from here. And it was just like a very high level discussion. I think it was even brought up to the EDA that we've never really done housing before. Um, and [clears throat and cough] so just to keep it on the plate is having a discussion. Obviously, um, if it would go anywhere, the council would have the authority as to the money that the EDA can borrow, um, to do projects such as that, or if there was ever a time where the council's like, we kind of want to give up the reigns of the HR for whatever reason. But yeah, all [clears throat] that was really talked about at the EDA board meeting was just kind of here's our overall strategic plan. Um, and I believe the reason why uh, Scott County CDA is mentioned in there is that um, Miss FA with the CDA uh, who attends all the meetings just to kind of give our EDA updates on what the county is doing just kind of mentioned that thus far when the city has had housing things they've worked with that we and have instead worked through the CDA instead of working more specifically on our own. And so she wanted to certainly let us know that those options are still there that uh if we'd rather kind of continue to use the CDA than uh develop our own HA program. I know some cities are far more instrumental in how they use their HAS than others. So >> I think from my perspective a number of years ago, Ken's been working with this program, but um there have been programs out for Minnesota Housing Finance Authority for housing programs and we've been involved in this one for maybe three years now, but back way back when it needed to be sponsored or put someplace and it got put in the EDA to be the sponsoring representing the city so that we're able to do the the >> it's a Minnesota city participation program and there's down payment assistance through Minnesota housing. >> So for us to be able to have this in New Prague, they need a sponsor like either the city of New Pra, the EDA or whatever. Correct. >> It got placed there because it was [clears throat] our H doesn't really we haven't even met for years. So it got a placeholder. So it's been there for a while. Well, so it's in the EDA and so that's been discussed and now through the strategic planning should that go further and other programs because as Josh said there's Scott County programs that we might be involved in. Is that the place we should keep it those activities or do we want to bring it back have those activities under the city council? I guess. >> Well, I think I I don't want to confuse the two because I think the state program for a down payment for that'd be for a single family house, right? >> Yes. >> Right. And I was more interested in where you were going to go with multifamily housing. I mean, there was already a proposal that got turned down for uh for uh yellow >> uh tax abatement and uh that was going to be 54 unit building and we're 6 months into the smaller building that we did approve and had the tax abatement for and it's it's only half full. So I the demand, you know, I'm just glad that we didn't have another 154 that we were sitting on because again, my concern is is it becomes a race to the bottom because it's like we got to get people in here. So then they lower the then next thing we know, New has the lowest apartment uh rent and uh and it's just I've seen it happen in other cities where it's just a bad situation. >> Well, I I think I would agree with most of what you said, but the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency does get involved in m multiple housing where we don't participate in any programs that they offer, but there there are programs like that that are out there. So, it doesn't mean EDA wouldn't be involved in some way if we choose to have it involved that way. Those those issues can be held, you know, under different tents, whether it's HA or if we want the city council to do it or we want the EDA to do it. My my feeling is the EDA commission does not have any love loss if they if you take it out of there. They're not passionate about that's my opinion. >> No, I kind of got the feel like I I don't think they're opposed to it per se. Like I think there are some that recognize >> or or feel that um for the amount of times that we hear of housing in New Prague that >> um housing is in fact a po portion of economic development. But I don't think there's anybody on the EDA that is passionate about like we have to do housing in the EDA. I think it was more of an exploratory topic um of just something to discuss over the coming years basically. >> But you I think I think your concern is when you're dealing with uh some of the incentive programs like abatements or tiff districts and things like that. I don't [clears throat] I think almost all those have to have final approval of city council. Correct. >> So there's no way that EDA could get around with some of those incentives. Incentives the EDA could do is more cash type or sale price negotiations. City council still approves all those sales. Um so there's a very small window the EDA or there's a smaller window of what they can do on their own in sense. So if you had another apartment building that wanted abatement, they the EDA can't approve that. >> Okay. Well, I just I I guess a couple of the meetings that I did attend um where there was discussion about merging the HR, I think I spoke uh against that because they're not elected officials. um they are appointed and there's there can be a situation that might arise where there's just no recourse um to appoint to individuals who are appointed where obviously um elected representatives um if they want to be elected again I have to listen to what the people are saying. So um and that's their job anyways is to represent them. But so I was just kind of curious on where it was. It was kind of vague in here in that question. and you guys un I have a little better feeling of where you're going and and that um it doesn't seem to be an agenda a major agenda item um for the EDA. So, >> well, I kind of agree with Bruce, you know, serving on the EDA, you know, it's not the intent that the strategic plan was for the ADA to take over H, but I think it was more of a strategic plan is that how sometimes housing can be related to the EDA strategic plan of of how do you build jobs and how do you build your commercial base and things like that. you know, you if you don't have enough housing and you want a big company to come in here, you're not going to you know, it's kind of >> Yeah. >> hand in hand. And that's that's really how I understood the strategic plan is that you also have to understand the housing market if you're looking at adding, you know, trying to add some more commercial base, >> right? and and that I I I understand that and I actually talked with a a uh EDA member and I who's a business owner in town and I said, you know, maybe [snorts] we should be looking at taxes so you can actually raise salaries if we can cut your business taxes through the city and [clears throat] be a little more responsible. Then perhaps you can pay individuals a lot more that where they can afford a brand new house or a a multi- um a town home or or whatever. So, >> it's a topic that we could talk about forever. >> No, I don't think your question got answered. >> Yeah. No, I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Okay. Anything else? >> Nope. That was it. >> Josh, do you have anything? >> I do not have anything. No. >> And >> Bruce, Matt, kind of quiet today. >> Perfect. >> Mitch, Ryan, you surprised me. >> Yep. I got surprised off that one, too. >> So, if No, I don't have anything. So if uh there's nothing else, I guess I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second by Rick Siler. >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> We're out of here. Fourth thing. Thank you guys. Thank you everyone. >> Yeah, Brian, that surprised me. Usually you're right on it. You even got the good t-shirt on or sweatshirt on. Drive.