(PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE) >> (PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN SPANISH) >> Coun. Davis: WELCOME TO OUR BIWEEKLY CREW HERE. A FEW HOUSE KEEPING NOTES AND THEN WE'LL JUMP RIGHT IN. AS NOTED IN PRESS RELEASE THIS PAST FRIDAY, ALSO POSTED ON WEBSITE AND NOTICED ON AGENDA, TODAY'S MEETING CONTINUES SPECIAL PROCEDURES GIVEN PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY AND BAN ON GATHERINGS. HELD VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >> YOU CAN VIEW THE MEETING ON THREE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, GOVTV, CHANNEL 16 AND LIVE ON YOUTUBE. THEY CAN BE ACCESSED FROM ANY SMARTPHONE, COMPUTER OR TABLET AND FOR THOSE WATCHING ON LIVE STREAM. THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING. VIDEO REGARDINGS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE. IF YOU MISS SOMETHING AND WANT TO REVIEW, CAN YOU DO SO THERE AND COUNCIL STAFF CAN HELP YOU DO THAT DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS 8:00 TO 5:00. 768-3100. WE ARE INTO OUR SECOND TERM NOW OF TRYING TO BRING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT INTO OUR VIRTUAL FORUM. TONIGHT WE WILL ACCEPT LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS ANY WRITTEN COMMENT. WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY 1:00 P.M. THROUGH EMAIL WERE DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCILORS EARLIER AND THEY HAVE THOSE ACCESSIBLE. WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL FOLLOW THAT WITH GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT, STAY AVAILABLE IN WAITING ROOM. THEN, WE WILL MOVE ONTO ADMINISTRATION TO ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. WELCOME. THIS PROCLAMATION WAS ENDORSED BY ALL OF OUR CITY COUNCILORS. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS. ALBUQUERQUE POLICE KEPT OFFICERS ARE FIRST RESPONDERS, PUBLIC SERVANTS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY. WHEREAS, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY BENEFIT FROM THEIR ACTS OF BRAVERY, PEACE KEEPING AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW AND CONTINUE TO BENEFIT FROM THE LONG LASTING EFFECTS OF OFFICERS OUTREACH AND ENFORCEMENT WORK. ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS ARE HARD WORKING, OFTEN COMMITTING TIME AND EFFORT BEYOND SCHEDULED SHIFT, RESPONSIBLE AND CARING TOWARD VICTIMS AND PERPETRATORS WITH WHICH THEY INTERACT. ACTS OF SELF LESSNESS MADE BY ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS ARE EXAMPLE TOMORROW ALBUQUERQUE CITIZENS TO MAKE OUR CITY A SAFER AND KINDER IS MR. TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. WHEREAS BUSINESSES NEIGHBORHOODS AND ORGANIZATIONS TREMENDOUSLY BENEFIT FROM POLICE OFFICERS' EFFORTS INCLUDING COMMUNITY POLICING, HELPING KISS OF DISADVANTAGED AND WHEREAS ALBUQUERQUE POLICE OFFICERS EXPERIENCED UNFAVORABLE PUBLIC SCRUTINY RECENTLY DESPITE RECORD OF COMMUNITY POLICING AND VIGILANCE REGARDLESS OF SHORTAGES AND INTENSIFIED CRIME. THEY ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE RELATIONS AND THROUGH APPLIED EFFORTS AND STRATEGIES OF THE POLICE FORCE, ALMOST ALL CATEGORIES OF CRIME ACROSS THE CITY DEMONSTRATE DECLINE AND THE RECOGNITION OF CONSCIENTIOUS AND VIGILANT ACTS OF BRAVERY INSPIRE THESE TRAITS IN OTHERS. IT IS PROCLAIMED THE CITY COUNCIL, GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY HEREBY RECOGNIZES COMMANDERS AND OFFICERS AS ESSENTIAL PART OF ALBUQUERQUE'S COMMUNITY PEACE AND SAFETY AS OFFICERS REPRESENT THE PROTECTIVE BODY OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND OFFICERS ENCOURAGE EVERY CITIZEN TO FOLLOW THEIR EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY GUARDIANSHIP. SO, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOMEBODY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT WOULD BE RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. I CAN'T SEE ON MY SCREEN WHO IS THERE. I THOUGHT WE INVITED OUR CHIEF. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE FOLKS COMING ON LINE. I SEE MS. NAIR. >> NAIR: WE HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF ARMIJO. I DON'T SEE WHICH ROOM SHE IS IN. SHE WOULD BE GRIT TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR VIDEO. >> WE ARE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES IN HERE. THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNSELOR. WE APPRECIATE THE STATEMENTS. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. IT MEANS SO MUCH AND WE DO HAVE VERY HARD WORKING OFFICERS OUT THERE EVERYDAY DOING THEIR BEST. THEY ARE WORKING HARDEST TO SERVE IN A CHALLENGING TIME SO THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PENA. YOU ALSO HAVE A PROCLAMATION. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I THINK WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION MS. CHAVEZ AND LUIS. WE'LL GET STARTED. WE ARE CO-SPONSORING MYSELF AND COUNCILOR BORREGO. SHE WILL BEGIN BY READING THE FIRST PART. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. ON AUGUST 17, 1988 CONGRESS PASSED PUBLIC LAW 1 FOR 02 DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 15 THROUGH OCTOBER 15 AS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. WHEREAS THE GOAL OF HISPANIC MONTH IS TO HIGHLIGHT POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HISPANICS MADE TO THIS NATION AS WELL AS IMPORTANCE OF DIVERSITY IN OUR STATE. THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE MADE UP OF OVER 50 LOCAL STATE AND NATIONAL HISPANIC EDUCATION GOVERNMENT, SUFFERING MILITARY AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS WORK TO PROMOTE THE CULTURAL EDUCATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT ADVANCE AND PROGRAMS HELD DURING THIS MONTH AND COUNCILOR PENA. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. MY COMPUTER. WHEREAS THIS IS THE 14TH YEAR THERE HAS BEEN UNIFIED EFFORT TO RAISE AWARENESS FOR ALL CULTURALLY RICH ACTIVITIES. ALBUQUERQUE TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN ITS CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY PLAYS IMPORTANT ROLE IN MAKING CITY RICHER AND A MORE VIBRANT PLACE TO WORK LIVE AND VISIT. THIS THEME IS CELEBRATING HISPANIC AND LATINO CULTURE HERITAGE AND CONTRIBUTIONS. IT IS PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 15, THROUGH OCTOBER 15, 2020 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND ENCOURAGING ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN US IN CELEBRATING HISPANIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO NEW MEXICO'S UNIQUE CULTURE AND HERITAGE. >> BEFORE I ASK JENNIFER, I WANT TO SAY I AM PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS GROUP. YOU FORMED OVER, FORM OR 15 YEARS AGO INITIALLY I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE JUST DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB OVER THE YEARS AND KNOWING THAT YOU JUST STARTED OUT WITH THIS KIND OF PASSION ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT HISTORY IS CELEBRATED AND TO TODAY WHERE YOU'RE GETTING SUPPORT FROM CITY GOVERNMENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK AND WHERE YOU WERE AND ARE NOW AND YOUR ROLE IS PARAMOUNT ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES. SO, JENNIFER. >> JENNIFER: COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS THANK YOU SO MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE. WE ARE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE GOAL TO PRESERVE, PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE HISPANIC CULTURE. HISPANO LATINO MEXICANO CULTURE, BECAUSE WE ALL REPRESENT DIFFERENT HISTORIES AND HERITAGES. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND WE WANT TO INVITE YOU TO BE A PART OF THE VIRTUAL KICK OFF. ALL OF THE EVENTS THIS YEAR WILL BE KICKING OFF ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15 AT 10:00 A.M. WE HAVE SO MANY WONDERFUL ENTERTAINERS WONDERFUL LEADERS WHO WILL BE SPEAKING DURING THAT TIME. SO, I AM HERE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING THE HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER DIVISION FOR EQUITY, INCLUSION AND CO-CHAIR OF THE HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE ALONG WITH MY WONDERFUL CO-CHAIR RUIZ. >> THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. JEN AND I HAVE PROUDLY SERVED FOR CO-CHAIRS AND WE ARE SO SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS OUR VERY FIRST VIRTUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH CELEBRATION AND AGAIN WE THANK YOU SO MUCH. PLEASE, WE INVITE EVERYONE TO TUNED INTO THE FACEBOOK, HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE, WE ARE GOING CELEBRATE ALL MONTH LONG BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 15. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: I ADELIGHTED TO BE IN THE COMPANY OF ALL THESE AMAZING PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN HEART AND SOUL TO THIS EFFORT AND IT IS WONDERFUL CELEBRATE OUR HISPANIC CULTURE AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS AMAZING THAT OUR CITY IS MOVING IN A DIRECTION OF CELEBRATING ALL CULTURES AND I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE'LL HAVE SO MANY CELEBRATIONS OF DIFFERENT CULTURES, IT IS GOING TO BE AMAZING. WE'LL BE CONSIDERED A INTERNATIONAL CITY. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATION. PROUD OF THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND LEAVE IT UP TO US LATINOS HISPANICS CHICANOS TO MAKE A 1 MONTH CELEBRATION INTO 2 MONTHS. SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. YOU GUYS TAKE CARE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. WE LOST YOU COUNCILOR. >> Coun. Pena: I SAID THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THEN GET INTO CONSENT AGENDA. REGARDING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WE COULD, LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS IS TAKEN TODAY AND WE HAVE TAKEN -- WE HAVE OFFERED 15 SLOTS FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP. AGAIN WE ALSO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENT THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO COUNCILORS BOTH THROUGH WEB FORMS AND THROUGH A SPECIAL EMAIL. ALL DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCILORS OVER THE WEEKEND AND TODAY. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT WORKS LIKE IT DOES IN PERSON. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE FOR WHOEVER SIGNS UP FOR NUMBER OF SPOTS AVAILABLE. YOU GET TO DO IT FROM HOME. MEMBERS WILL BE MOVED FROM THE ZOOM WAITING ROOM INTO MEETING ROOM. EVERYONE REMAINS MUTED AND YOU HAVE UP TO A MINUTE AND-A-HALF TO PROVIDE COMMENTS. OUR ZOOM MODERATOR, MR. MOYA IS MOVING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC INTO THE MEETING AT THIS TIME. WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE WHILE HE INVITES THOSE PEOPLE IN. >> EACH PARTICIPANT HAS MINUTE AND A HALF TO SPEAK OR PRESENT. YOUR COMMENTS MUST BE ACRESTED TO SIT COUNCILORS ONLY AND THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> IN OTHER WORDS WE DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN A ONE ON ONE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILORS THROUGH THIS PROCESS. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM MEETING. >> I AM CHARLIE NOBLOCK, 1023 SECOND STREET SOUTHWEST. CORNER OF SECOND AND PACIFIC RIGHT ACROSS FROM RAIL YARDS. WE HAVE BEEN VICTIMIZED. WHEN WE BOUGHT PROPERTY 25 YEARS AGO SECOND WAS A ONE WAY STREET. BACK THEN THERE WAS HEAVY TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING BUT BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO LANES GOING THE SAME DIRECTION IT WAS TOLL REBOUND. TWO YEARS AGO IS CHANGED TO A 2 WAY STREET. THAT IS WHEN THE PROBLEM STARTED. THERE IS CONSTANT HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC GOING NORTH AND SOUTH AT ALL HOURS. IT IS USED AS A RACETRACK AND YOU'RE TAKING YOUR LIVE IN YOUR HANDS TO DRIVE THERE. IT IS 25 MILES AN OUR AND FEW KNOW THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE PRACTICALLY NO SIGNS APRICING MOTORISTS OF THIS. HALF THE SIGNORS HIDDEN BEHIND TREES. NONE OF THE SIGNS PROMISE HAVE HAD APPEARED AT ALL. WE SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE REGARDING TRAFFIC ON SECOND SOUTHWEST. LAST YEAR, WE ALL SUBMITTED A PETITION REQUESTING THIS. THIS LAST JUNE OUR PRAYERS WERE ANSWERED, UNEXPECTEDLY. BARRIERS WERE ERECTED. PEACE AND QUIET. CHILDREN CAN RIDE THEIR BICYCLES. I COULD PULL OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY LIFE WAS GOOD. THEN -- >> MOYA: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> WE WANT SOMETHING ON SECOND STREET TO SLOW THIS STREET DOWN. >> HELLO. I AM A CLINICAL LAW STUDENT AT THE UNM SCHOOL OF LAW. I WILL BE COMMENTING ON THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT ORDINANCE ON P BEHALF OF THE CLINIC WHERE WE SUPPORT SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES BASED IN ALBUQUERQUE'S SOUTH VALLEY. ONE OF THE MAJOR SHORT COMINGS OF THE FEDERAL, STATE, ENVIRONMENTAL CLAUSE IS THEY DO NOT CONSIDER THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. FOR EXAMPLE, RESEARCH SHOWS THAT RESIDENTS OF COMMUNITIES NEAR INDUSTRIAL AND HAZARDOUS WASTE SITES INCLUDE INCREASED RISK OF ADVERSEPARI NATAL OUTCOMES. ALBUQUERQUE CAN BECOME A NATIONAL LEADER IN ADDRESSING WRONGS CAUSED BY POLLUTION ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WHILE THIS INSTITUTE URGES THE COUNCIL TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS SHOULD ONLY BE A FIRST STEP. CITY OR COUNTY MUST ALSO FIND WAYS IN THE FUTURE TO ADDRESS CUMULATIVE AIR IMPACTS WHICH ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERED IN THIS ORDINANCE AND ENSURE IMPLEMENTATION IS EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING ADDITIONAL HEALTH HARMS FROM CUMULATIVE IMPACTS AND CONSIDER EXPANDING REQUIREMENTS TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IMPACTED BY DIVERSE POLLUTION SOURCES. FURTHERMORE, COMMUNITY INPUT MUST CONTINUE TO BE HEARD AS TO ANY FUTURE DECISIONS REGARDING CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. THANK YOU COUNCILORS. >> MOYA: THANK YOU. >> ANDRES ROMERO: -- >> Coun. Davis: I WELCOME AND INTRODUCE MR. ROMERO STATE REP FROM THE SOUTH VALLEY AND PARTS OF THE SOUTH VALENCIA BUT. SOUTH VALLEY. >> ROMERO: I APPRECIATE IT. I SERVE AT STATE REPRESENTATIVE IN HOUSE DISTRICT 10 THIS INCLUDES COMMUNITY OF SAN JOSE ALONG WITH COMMUNITIES ALONG THE RAIL ROAD LINES TO THE SOUTH. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENTS TO INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY AMENDMENT B21 CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY OF THE COMMUNITY OF SAN JOSE AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AROUND THE RAIL ROAD TRACKS. THEY HAVE HAD DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF POLLUTING INDUSTRY. I THINK THIS AMENDMENT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO ENSURE THAT ALL NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A CHANCE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE THEY ALL DESERVE. SO, WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMUNITY OF SAN JOSE FOR WORKING HARD ON THIS ISSUE FOR SOUTHWEST ORGANIZING PROJECT AND FOR COUNCILLOR BENTON FOR SPONSORING THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU REPRESENTATIVE. COME BACK WITH US ANY TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME. >> MOYA: ESTHER ABEYTA. WILL. >> ESTHER ABEYTA: HELLO. I AM A CLINICAL LAW STUDENT AT UNM SCHOOL OF LAW. I AM SPEAKING AS A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE OF ABEYTA RESIDENTS OF THE SAN JOSE COMMUNITY PROTECTED BY THE B21 CUMULATIVE IMPACT AMENDMENT. STRONGLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO ENACT AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO PROTECT HEALTH OF THE FAMILIES AND PROTECT PROPERTY VALUES AFFECTING THE SAN JOSE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY OF SAN JOSE IS CONCERNED BY THE WAY THEY ARE THEY ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY CUMULATIVE POLLUTION AND TOXIC EMISSIONS OF COMPANIES. 95% OF SAN JOSE RESIDENTS ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND 61% OF LOW INCOME. HEALTH IMPACTS ASSESSMENT DONE IN AUGUST 2015 BY BERNALILLO COUNTY CONFIRMED THAT MINORITY COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY ARE DISPROCEED PROCEDURES DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED. >> THIS HARMS PROPERTY VALUES IN THE SAN JOSE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO SUPERFUND SITES INCLUDING SOUTH VALLEY, PROPERTY VALUES ARE DIMINISHED TREMENDOUSLY. MY CLIENTS CANNOT GET FULL VALUE FOR THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE MUST DISCLOSE IT IS LOCATED ON A SEWERRER FUND SIGHT. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE A GREAT STEP ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AT PREVENTING FURTHER DISPROPORTIONATE POLLUTION HARM THAT COMPANIES HAVE CREATED AMONG ITS PREDOMINANTLY -- >> MY NAME IS ESTELLA ANCHONDO. >> ABEYTA: THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND PAT DAVIS FOR HEARING ME TODAY. I AM STEVEN ABEYTA RESIDE AT 2419 WILLIAM STREET IN ALBUQUERQUE. SAN JOSE. I HAVE LITERALLY SPOKEN TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE PHASE IN SAN JOSE. I HAVE SHOWN MANY PUBLIC OFFICIALS ZONING LAWS AND MAPS, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T CONNECT WITH THEM. UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY TAKE A TOUR OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SEE IMPACTS THAT LOCATING INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES IN A SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS HAVING ON A COMMUNITY. THERE IS EVERYTHING FROM WATER POLLUTION, AIR POLLUTION, NOISE POLLUTION, VIBRATIONS AND IT HAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT. MANY PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HOMES WITH CRACKS IN THE WALLS BECAUSE OF THE VIBRATIONS. IT IS REALLY BAD. SO, WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE C2 CUMULATIVE IMPACT AMENDMENT. BECAUSE IT WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT AND IT WILL CHANGE THE NEGATIVE VIEW THAT WE SEE IN SAN JOSE. WE ARE GOING TO RELY ON YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT US ON THIS AND WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK COUNCILLOR BENTON FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY OF SAN JOSE AND TO ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND TO PUT IT IN THE IDO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALEJANDRA: TODAY I AM HERE SOME SPEAK IN FAVOR OF CUMULATIVE IMPACT B21 AMENDMENT. AS COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY RECOGNIZE I AM ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ORGANIZER BUT I AM ALSO HERE AS LOCAL RESIDENT TO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT MY FRIENDS IN SAN JOSE. I FOLLOWED THIS AMENDMENT FOR MONTHS, VOICING MY CONCERNS AND ASKING MY REPRESENTATIVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. JUST LIKE YOU ALL, I SERVE TO PROTECT WELL BEING OF RESIDENTS. SOMETIMES, AS COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS, WE ARE SEEN AS RADICALS. BUT HOW CAN ASKING FOR PROTECTIVE ZONING AND GREATER ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS BE SEEN AS RADICAL. LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT AND YOU ARE CHOOSING TO FIGHT AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM IN OUR CITY. LET'S CREATE A MORE EQUITABLE AND JUST ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS ESTELLA. >> HI, I ALREADY SPOKE ON BEHALF OF ESTHER. IS IT OKAY IF I GO AGAIN? >> Coun. Davis: WE ONLY ALLOW SPEAK TORRES SPEAKERS TO HAVE ONE TURN. UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY ALLOW SPEAK SPEAKERS TO HAVE ONE TURN TODAY. >> GOOD EVENING. AS YOU HAVE HEARD THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT IN REGARD TO B21. WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IMPACTED. WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE INSTITUTE WHICH I AM A PART OF WHO ARE IN GREAT SUPPORT OF THIS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE CITY COUNCILMAN ISAAC BENTON AND REPRESENTATIVE ROMERO BACKING THIS UP. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS A GREAT IMPORTANCE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR FOR YEARS. WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD REMEDY TO START IN FAVOR OF THESE COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH WATER POLLUTION FROM SUPERFUND SITES AND INUNDATED BY CONCENTRATIONS OF POLLUTING INDUSTRIES. WE EXPLAINED ALL THE FACILITIES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ESSENTIALLY ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND WE NEED TO RECTIFY IT. I KNOW THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION ARE MAKING MOVES TO BE MORE EQUITABLE AND START TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT REGARD RACE AND THIS ONE HERE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES YOU COULD MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON AND HAVE A LOT OF IMPACT. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE B21 CUMULATIVE IMPACT ORDINANCE. THESE OPPORTUNITIES DO NOT COME ALONG FOR US A LOT. THIS IS PROBABLY THIRD TIME WE HAVE TRIED IN LIKE FIVE YEARS TO GET THIS DONE. OF GREAT IMPORTANCE THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS AND VOTE IN FAVOR. YOU'LL MAKE A GREAT IMPACT ON (INAUDIBLE). >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THOSE THAT SIGNED UP AND APPEARED AT THE MEETING. WE HAD A FEW THAT SIGNED UP BUT DID NOT APPEAR IN THE ZOOM MEETING. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK TO YOU EVERYONE. WE ARE GOING TO JUST STAY ON SCREEN BUT JUST TAKE A TECHNICAL PAUSE FOR 30 SECONDS WHILE MR. MOYA MOVES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PEOPLE OUT OF THE MAIN MEETING. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANTED TO SAY THAT IN 1986 AND I GIVE MY AGE AWAY BUT I WORKED ON THE SOUTH BROADWAY SECTOR PLAN WHICH INCLUDED THESE COMMUNITIES AND WE WERE WORKING ON MANY OF THESE SAME ISSUES BACK IF 1986. THAT WAS 34 YEARS AGO. SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY DISHEARTENING TO SEE THE COMMUNITY STILL FIGHTING FOR THE SAME ISSUE. I MEAN, I AM GLAD TO SEE THEY ARE BUT IT IS HARD TO SWALLOW -- IT IS A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW TO KNOW THESE ISSUES STILL EXIST. COUNCILLOR BENTON I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE SUPPORTING THESE COMMUNITIES AND THESE SUPERFUND SITES HAVE BEEN, I THINK WE ACTUALLY DECLARED THAT AREA SUPERFUND SITE IN LIKE 19, I THINK, ABOUT 1990. SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF CLEAN-UP DONE AS PART OF THE FEDERAL SUPERFUND SITE INITIATIVE. BUT THERE IS STILL THIS ISSUE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND I AM REALLY GLAD TO SEE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING -- CONTINUING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU COUNCILOR, FROM YOU AND A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS. COUNCILOR BENTON IS GETTING A LOT OF PROPS TONIGHT. >> THANKS FOR MODERATING THE PROCESS FOR US MR. MOYA. EVERYBODY UP TO DATE. MY GOAL TONIGHT DEPENDING00 ADMINISTRATION Q AND A LASTS, IS TO STICK TO AGENDA AS DESCRIBED. AND TRY TO GET US ALL THE MIDWAY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM 12, BEFORE WE TACK A DINNER BREAK. THAT SHOULD TAKE US TO SOMEWHERE AROUND THE 6:00 MARK. WE HAVE PLENTY OF PLACES TO TAKE A BREAK. FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET THROUGH CONSENT, APPROVALS AND THE QUICK ADOPTING FINDINGS FOR THOSE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS BECAUSE WE HAVE GUESTS FROM ADMINISTRATION AND LEGAL FOLKS FOR THAT. THEN WE'LL COME BACK LATER AFTER DINNER BREAK FOR APPROVALS. FOR FOLKS FOLLOWING ALONG, THAT IS MY PLAN. IF ADMINISTRATION HAS A REASON TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, LET US KNOW. NEXT UP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE NONE. WE ARE MOVING INTO ADMINISTRATION Q AND A. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF COUNCILORS WITH QUESTIONS. WE'LL TURN THIS OVER AND ASK THAT FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, THAT WE TRY TO FOCUS OUR CONVERSATION AND QUESTIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO WE HAVE A CHANCE FOR A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH ADMINISTRATION. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF QUESTION FROM SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RELENTLESS PURSUIT AND OPERATION LEGEND AND I THINK THERE IS SOME CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. SO, I AM JUST ASKING THE ADMINISTRATION OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER, ATTORNEYS, I SEE SAMANTHA ON THERE, WHOEVER IS GOING TO RESPOND TO THIS, TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO AND GIVE US SOME CLARIFICATION. >> Coun. Davis: THEY ALL CAME ON LINE TOGETHER. MS. NAIR? >> NAIR: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR UP A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND THESE ISSUES. I AGREE THAT I HER A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THIS IS A CHANCE TO SET IT ALL OUT. COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING TONIGHT APPROVING A COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES OR COPS GRANT. APD HAS RECEIVED FEDERAL GRANTS FOR MANY YEARS FOR EVERYTHING FROM FORENSIC LAB EQUIPMENT TO HIRING ADVOCATES FOR SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. THIS GRANT IS PART OF THE COPS HIRING PROGRAM. THIS SPECIFIC GRANT PROVIDES 9.7 MILLION TO HERE 40 NEW OFFICERS OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS. AS NEW OFFICERSES HIRED, MORE EXPERIENCED OFFICERS MAY BE ASKED TO JOIN FEDERAL TASKFORCE OPERATIONS TO COMBAT VIOLENT CRIME. U.S. ATTORNEY ASSURED US THAT THE CITY THAT THESE TASKFORCE OPERATIONS WILL NOT LEAVE APD DEPLETED. IT TAKES ABOUT A YEAR TO RECRUIT, TRAIN AND GIVE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING TO A NEW OFFICER. THE WORLD MAY LOOK VERY DIFFERENT AT THAT TIME IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES FOR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE KNOW WE STILL WANT TO COMBAT VIOLENT CRIME. WHAT WILL NOT LOOK DIFFERENT IS THAT APD HAS BEEN, IS NOW AND WILL ALWAYS EXTEND OUR HANDS TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTION PARTNERS IF WE BELIEVE IT WILL MAKE CITY SAFER CONSISTENT WITH VALUES. THAT EXTENDS TO VIOLENCE INTERVENTION, TO DIVERSION, TO TAKING GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF VIOLENT REPEAT OFFENDERS AND OTHER OPERATIONS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY EVERYDAY. LET PEA TALK ABOUT ALSO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC CONCERNS AND MYTHS WE HAVE HEARD. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THE COPS GRANT CONFLICTS WITH OUR IMMIGRANT OFFENDERLY CITY ORDINANCE. LEGAL DEPARTMENT CONFIRMS WE CAN ADHERE TO IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY ORDINANCE AND IN DOING SO IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE COPS GRANT. I WANT TO ASSURE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL THAT WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO ADHERING TO THE COMMITMENT IN OUR IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED AND MAYOR SUPPORTED. WE HAVE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT COPS GRANT INVOLVES MILITARY STYLE ACTION WE HAVE SEEN IN REACTION TO PROTESTS IN OREGON AND PERHAPS OTHER CITIES. WE SHARED THAT CONCERN AND ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF JUST IS TO ADDRESS. AND SON ASSURED US THAT FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS NO NO WAY INTERFERED WITH ANY ASSEMBLY OR PROTEST IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTION. WHEN WE ARE AT FINALLY AT THE POINT TO ASSIGN TASKFORCE OPERATIONS EVEN WE HEAR OF A CONFLICT WITH APD, WE WILL ADDRESS THEM. THAT MEANS THERE ARE SOME OPERATIONS WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN AND POLICE DEPARTMENT MAKES THOSE CHOICES EVERYDAY. WE HEARD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS CALLED OPERATION LEGEND IS OR IS NOT. AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL IT IS A FEDERAL NAME FOR A FEDERAL PROGRAM. WE SEE A PATTERN OF FEDS PUTTING OPERATION LEGENDS ON CASES LONG BEFORE LEGEND BRANDS WERE INVENTED AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS WHAT CATCH PHRASES THEY WANT TO USE IN CONNECTION WITH FEDERAL CASES. WE DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO QUIBBLE OVER WHO TAKES CREDIT FOR WHAT. OUR TIME IS BETTER SPEND ON CRIME FIGHTING AND PREVENTION STRATEGIES. PLAYING WITH THE RUMORS ABOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION CHANGED COURSES ON COVID-19 COUNTLESS TIMES WHILE WE STAYED ON TRACK WITH CONSISTENT POLICIES FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE TAKEN FEDERAL HELP FOR COVID-19 WHEN IT WAS A GOOD FIT BUT NOT BENT TO FEDERAL PRESSURE WHEN WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGHT THING FOR US. THAT HAS MADE US SAFER THAN THE NEIGHBORING STATES AND CITIES OF OUR SIZE. THE MAYOR HAS BEEN CLEAR IN THE MEDIA AND IN BRIEFING, EVEN ON THE NATIONAL STAGE THAT THE CITY DOES NOT SUPPORT OS THAT OPERATIONS THAT TARGET PEOPLE ON IMMIGRATION STATUS. OR ATTEMPT TO SUBVERTEBRAL THE PUBLIC RELEASE RIGHT TO PROTEST. APD MUST FOLLOW CASA AND ACT AIN ACCORDANCE WITH REFORMS AT ALL TIMES. >> THAT SAID WE DO NOT CONTROL THE FEDS OR THE SHERIFFS OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. WHAT WE DO CONTROL IS HOW WE USE THIS MONEY AND WE WILL USE THIS MONEY TO HERE MORE OFFICERS WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO DO SINCE DAY ONE. WHAT TASKFORCE OPERATION DOES WE PARTICIPATE IN. WE CONTROL WHETHER WE OBJECT TO TACTICAL CONCERNS AT ANY TIME AND WE WILL NOT HESITATE TO DO THAT. JUST TO WRAP IT UP WE NEED MONEY TO HERE OFFICERS. THAT IS WHAT THIS GRANT IS. WE AREN'T GOING TO LET THIS BECOME MORE THAN IT IS. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ABANDON OUR VALUES, DISREGARD CITY POLICIES AND WE THINK WE CAN BALANCE ALL OF THESE NEEDS AT THE SAME TIME. SO, HAPPY ANSWER QUESTIONS OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE COPS GRANT. >> Coun. Borrego: THAT WAS A VERY REASONS ANSWER AND I APPRECIATE WHY IT THAT LENGTHY DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT GRANT BUT I WILL KEEP THAT FOR WHEN IT COMES UP. MY QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY ON ASKING AN UPDATE ON THE MINORITY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE PROCESS IN ENCOURAGING CONTRACTORS TO PROVIDE BUSINESS SERVICES TO THE CITY WITH REGARD TO THE SUBCONTRACTORS ASSURING THEIR SHARE OF BUSINESS (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: WE LOST THE TAIL END BUT I THINK WE GOT IT. MS. NAIR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS, OR IS THAT ONE FOR YOU AS WELL. >> NAIR: JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND WE ARE IN OLD FASHION COMMUNICATING ACROSS THE HALL TO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. >> THANK YOU. I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR THE QUESTION. I AM HAPPY TO GIVE OVERVIEW OF THE ALBUQUERQUE OFFICE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. >> Coun. Sena: MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE STATUS OF IT. HOW MANY SUBCONTRACTORS ARE WOMEN OR PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT WE ACTUALLY CONTRACT WITH IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE. >> COUNCILOR SENA, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT GRANT BUT MINORITY BUSINESS ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO DO WITH PURCHASING PREFERENCE. >> Coun. Sena: THAT IS CORRECT. >> CYNTHIA: THANK YOU COUNCILORS. I AM HAPPY TO GATHER THAT DATA FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME BUT I AM HAPPY TO GET IT AS QUARTERBACKINGLY AS POSSIBLE. >> I SHOULD GIVE OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE THIS ORDINANCE PASSED EVEN BEFORE I WAS ALIVE. JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS WELL AWARE OF WHAT THAT ORDINANCE DOES AND HOW WE WORK TO ENSURE THAT WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE ALSO EVALUATED WHEN AWARDING THESE CONTRACTS AND IF YOU CAN ALSO JUST GO OVER WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO APPLY FOR THIS OR EVEN JUST TO BE A VENDOR? >> CERTAINLY. I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT. IF I AM CORRECT THAT ORDINANCE PASSED IN 1977. WE CAN DO THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >> Coun. Davis: DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THAT OR WE'LL HOLD THE REST. >> Coun. Sena: I KNOW THAT THERE WAS APPLICATION PUT OUT FOR REQUESTS FOR VENDORS TO APPLY TO PROVIDE P. E'S AND I HAVE GIVEN SOME REQUESTS ON MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF SEEM STRESSES INCLUDING SOME OF THE OWN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN PROVIDING COVERINGS FREE OF CHARGE AND WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF APPLYING TO BE A VENDOR? >> COUNCILOR SENA, HAPPEN QUESTION TO ANSWER THAT. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE LINK TO BON FIRE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THEY COULD APPLY TO BECOME A VENDOR. >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WALK THEM THROUGH THAT PROCESS. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Gibson: I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR PIERCE. SHOAL IS SHE WITH US. >> Coun. Gibson: MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT HEAD START. I UNDERSTAND SINCE WE HAVEN'T BEEN GETTING QUARTERLY REPORTS BUT I AM TOLD THAT WE DO HAVE A NEW AND GOOD MANAGER OVER THERE. DR. MOSLEY. SO, WE WOULD BE -- OUR STAFF WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH HER IN HELPING HER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT. IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO, I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT IN THE CENTER BASED PROGRAM THAT YOUR USING VIRTUAL CLASSES AND I AM JUST WONDERING HOW THAT IS WORKING. DO YOU HAVE FAMILIES WHO DON'T HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT COULD USE EQUIPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, ACCESS THEY HAVE FOR VIRTUAL LEARNING. THAT IS MY FIRST QUESTION. >> COUNCILOR GIBSON, LET ME ANSWER A VARIETY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU ON THE QUARTERLY REPORT. I WAS OR AM AWARE WE ARE OFF BASE ON THAT ONE BUT WE HAVE A PLAN TO GET IN SYNC. THE PERIOD ENDS ENDS THIS MONTH, WE AIM TO GET THAT THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT IS ABOUT THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER. THAT IS ABOUT THE TIMING WE NEED FOR APPROVALS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ON THAT ONE. IN TERMS OF EARLY HEAD START, BY HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 71 OF THE 104 STUDENTS RECEIVING SERVICES ON SITE AND 71 TOTAL. 40 OF THOSE CHILDREN ARE IN PERSON AND 31 ARE VIRTUAL. I DID FOLLOW-UP WITH OUR STAFF TO ASK IF WE HAD HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT EQUIPMENT OR COMPUTERS FOR THAT VIRTUAL LEARNING. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. FOR FAMILIES THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE A PERSONAL COMPUTER THEY DO HAVE A CELL PHONE AND WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION, WELL, WOW, IF YOU WERE SENDING AN ATTACHMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS THAT A PROBLEM. IT HALLS WORKED SO FAR BUT THAT IS SUPPLEMENTED BY WHAT WE CALL THE GRAB AND GO ON FRIDAYS. BECAUSE, WHETHER STUDENTS ARE IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL, THEY ALL ARE -- TEACHERS ARE DOING THIS CURRICULUM SO THE GRAB AND GO ARE PROVIDING PARENTS WITH THE ACTUAL PAPERS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT LEARNING PLAN FOR THAT WEEK. IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY WE SEEM TO BE DOING OKAY. WE DO HAVE PARENTS WHICH UNDERSTANDABLY SO ARE CONCERNED AND ARE CHOOSING TO STILL BE VIRTUAL. I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE HAD A GRADUAL GEARING UP ON THE PERCENTS OF FAMILY THAT WILL BE IN PLACE AND AS OF YESTERDAY, YEAH, YESTERDAY ON THE EIGHTH, WE COULD START 75% IN PERSON LEARNING AND BY THE END OF THE MONTH, IT WILL TO GO TO 100%. WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE FAMILIES CHOOSING TO DID VIRTUAL AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THE GRAB AND GO. >> Coun. Gibson: THAT ANSWERED ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD HERE. SO, I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW INFECTIONS, NOT NECESSARILY WITH STAFF BUT MAYBE FAMILY MEMBERS. SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT MEANS YOUR HAVING TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT PPE'S AND SANITIZING OF THE CENTER AND EQUIPMENT THEY ARE USING. DO YOU FEEL LIKE WHAT YOUR DIAGNOSE NOW IS ADEQUATE FOR SERVICES WE ARE GIVING THESE YOUNG KIDS OR DO WHEN NEED TO DO MORE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT DAVIS AND COUNCILOR GIBSON, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION. SO FAR IN CHILD DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE AND REMEMBER WE SERVE A LOT MORE THAN EARLY HEAD START BUT WE HAVE HAD ONE INFECTION AND IT WAS A PARENT AND IN ALL OF OUR CENTERS, PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN THE CENTER JUST LIKE OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS. WE HAVE CERTAIN PRACTICES WHERE THEY ARE AT THE DOOR, CHECKING IN THEIR CHILD. SO, WHEN THIS PARENT LET US KNOW THAT THEY TURNED OUT TO BE COVID-19 POSITIVE, WE FOLLOWED THE BEST PRACTICE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. WE NOTIFIED EVERY PARENT THAT HAD CHILDREN IN THAT CENTER AND THEN WE WERE CLOSED DOWN THE TWO WEEKS. THAT GAVE PEOPLE ADEQUATE TIME TO GET TESTED, TO BE QUARANTINED AND DO DEEP CLEANING, NO POSITIVE RESULTS FROM THAT. OVER WILL, I FEEL GOOD ABOUT OUR CLEANING PROCESS, MASKS IN PLACE WHICH WE FOLLOW, THAT WE REALLY HAVE HAD THIS OF PROBLEM AMONG CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTERS. MONDAYS ARE THE DAY THAT DEEP CLEANING DOES OCCUR. WE USE OUR STAFF TO DO THAT. OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD PROCESS. >> Coun. Gibson: LAST QUESTION. THIS IS ABOUT STAFFING. ARE YOU FULLY STAFFED FOR THE EARLY HEAD START PROGRAM AND IF NOT WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR GETTING IS FULLY STAFFED. >> THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. WE ARE NOT FULLY STAFFED IN EARLY HEAD START BUT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE POSITIONS POSTED AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO INTERVIEW THOSE POSITIONS AND WE HAVE HAD A FEW STAFF THAT ARE OUT ON EXTENDED LEAVE BECAUSE OF VARIOUS PERSONAL CONCERNS AND WE HAVE HAD TWO SITES THAT WE HAVE HAD TO CLAUSE BECAUSE WE AREARRANGE STAFFING. THAT IS TRUMP BELL AND SINGING ARROW. WE ARE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE STUDENTS IN OTHER LOCATIONS. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE POSITIONS POSED WHICH INCLUDES OUR EARLY HEAD START PROGRAM MANAGER. THAT POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT. WE DO HAVE ONE OF THE STAFF FILLING IN FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT, THOSE POSITIONS ARE POSTED AND WE ARE INTERVIEWING FOR THOSE. >> WHAT IS DR. MOSLEY'S POSITION. >> YES, DR. MOSLEY IS OUR NEW DIVISION MANAGER. THAT INCLUDES EARLY PRE K, PRE SCHOOL PROGRAM AND EARLY HEAD START AND THEN WE HAVE TWO PROGRAM MANAGERS UNDER HER, ONE IS CURRENTLY FILLED AND THEN THE ONE THAT IS VACANT IS EARLY HEAD START. I WILL SAY, I KNOW, MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET MR. MOSLEY. SHE IS A GREAT BREATH OF FRESH AIR HERE PART OF THE CITY TEAM. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU DIRECTORS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN AND THEN COUNCILOR JONES. >> Councilor Bassan: I WILL BEGIN BY SAYING I HAVE A PRETTY HEALTHY LIST OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT BUT I PROGRAM IS YOU IT IS NOT ALL OF THEM. I TRIED TO GET IT NARROWED DOWN AND BE MOST ACCURATE AS I NEED TO BE. I AM GOING TO KIND OF REVERSE WHAT I WAS DOING BECAUSE MS. NAIR SAID IN THE DESCRIPTION YOU JUST SAID FOR COPS GRANT FOR COUNCILOR WAS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT IF WE HEAR A WHIFF OF SOMETHING AND I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW IT WAS PHRASE $, THEN WE WILL GET INVOLVED. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT. WHO WILL GET INVOLVED AND HOW THAT WILL GO. >> OF NAIR: AS HAPPENS WITH ANY FEDERAL OR MULTI AGENCY OPERATION, AS IT COMES UP THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT ANY PIECE OF THE OPERATION, WHETHER THAT BE USE OF ON BODY CAMERAS, USE OF FORCE OR SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WORK THAT OUT AT THAT LEVEL AND IF THE DECISION BY THE DEPARTMENT AT THAT POINT IS NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE OPERATION THEY CAN STEP BACK FROM THAT AS NEEDED. >> AT LAST MEETING YOU STATED POLICE CHIEF IS IN CHARGE OF AND WONDERING IF YOU STILL STAND-BY THE STATEMENT BASED OFF OF RECENT THINGS I HAVE BEEN HEARING AND WHAT IS HAPPENING. >> I AM SURE YOU DIDN'T MEAN THAT DISRESPECTFULLY TO THE CHIEF BUT OF COURSE THE POLICE CHIEF IS (INAUDIBLE). >> LET ME CLARIFY THAT ALL OF THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, I DO NOT MEAN WITH ANY DISRESPECT SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING ME. I HAVE A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS AS WELL AND SO I REALLY THAT FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO ASK THEM ON BEHALF OF CONSTITUENTS THAT REACH OUT TO ME AS WELL AS CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE WHILE I AM AROUND THE CITY. ANOTHER QUESTION IS THERE HAS BEEN A POST MADE ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE CHIEF QUOTED MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT ANOTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY AND QUICKLY TAKEN BACK AND RETRACTED OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEN THE CHIEF POINTED THIS A NEW MOST WAS INDICATING HE HAD NEVER READ OR APPROVED WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED. IS IT COMMON PRACTICE FOR A POST TO BE MADE ON BEHALF OF OTHERS WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE OR APPROVAL OR DOES ANY OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION OR ANYBODY THERE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT? >> NAIR: NO. I MEAN, GILBERT GALLEGOS OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS WAS PRETTY HONEST THAT HE JUST MADE A MISTAKE. WE ARE HUMAN. HE DIDN'T GET THE APPROVAL BEFORE HE POSTED IT AND I FEEL LIKE HE OWNED THAT PUBLICLY, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A COMMON PRACTICE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT HE STEPPED UP TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT VERY HUMAN MISTAKE. >> I DID NOTICE HE DID THAT. I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT IS STILL PART OF THE SENTIMENT BEHIND IT. I AM WONDERING, TOO, BASED OFF OF OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST MEETING THERE IS THE SIGNATURE STAMP TOPIC, THERE IS THE MESSAGES BEING SPENT. THERE IS PEOPLE GOING CITY ADMINISTRATION OR YOU TRYING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION AND GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR PERSONNEL MATTERS. I AM WONDERING WHERE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND LIES BECAUSE I AM REALLY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. I HAVE NOTICED THAT ON DECEMBER 14, 2017, CHIEF GEIER WAS LISTED AS POLICE CHIEF AND EVEN THE MOST RECENT ONE WHICH WAS AS OF JULY 20 LISTED CAO AS BEING IN CHARGE OF THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON ALL EIGHT PAGES OF THIS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. I AM WONDERING IF HE IS IN CHARGE HOWS DID THAT WORK WHERE CAO IS NOW ABOVE THAT. >> NAIR: THERE WAS TWO PIECES TO THAT QUESTION. FIRST IS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT YOU DO ABOUT VARIOUS ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION. I KNOW THAT WE NOR THE COUNCIL WOULD EVER WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO DISTURB INTEGRITY OF THAT INVESTIGATION. OF COURSE, WHEN ALL OF THAT BECOMES PUBLIC APPROPRIATELY WE ARE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT. THE ORG CHART WE ACTUALLY MADE THAT CHANGE TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. SO, YOU'LL SEE, MY COLLEAGUE CO RAEL'S NAME OVER TOP FOR EXAMPLE, TRANSIT OR SOLID WASTE AS WELL AS MINE OVER VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT I DIRECTLY MANAGE LOOK LEGAL. THAT WAS AN ORG CHART AND AT THE TOP IS PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BELOW THAT ELECTED MAYOR AND BELOW THE REST OF THE ORG CHART. WE MADE THAT UPDATE ACROSSING THE BOARD. IT WATS NOT INTENDED TO SEND A MESSAGE. UNDER CITY CHARTER, CHIEF -- >> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I AM QUESTIONS WHERE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND GOES I GUESS IS HOW IT LOOKS. WITH THINGS AND TOPICS THAT HAVE COME UP IT SEEMS LIKE IS CHAIN OF COMMAND TO GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF OR TO YOU AND I THINK THAT IF I AM CONFUSED BY THAT AND I AM HEARING CONSTITUENTS AND OTHERS THAT ARE CONFUSED BY THAT IT IS A LITTLE PIT UNCLEAR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT OFFICERS ARE GOING TO YOU, IS THAT APPROPRIATE. >> NAIR: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY GOING TO ME. CERTAINLY IF I AM OUT IN THE WORLD AND OFFICER SAYS SOMETHING TO ME THAT I FEEL NEEDS TO GO TO CHAIN OF COMMAND, I SEND THAT TO THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF COMMAND. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING AMBIGUOUS ABOUT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IN THE POLICE. IT IS CHIEF OVER SEEING DEPUTY CHIEFS AND OVER SEEING COMMANDERS SO FORTH. >> DO YOU OVER SEE THE CHIEF OF POLICE. >> I OVERSEE ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT. >> WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET AT, THERE HAVE BEEN ARTICLES AND RELEASES AND THEN WHEN I RESEARCH OTHER CITIES AS WELL, IT IS VERY CONCERNING ON WHERE THAT BOUNDARY LIES AS FAR AS WHERE THE MIXTURE OF POLITICS VERSUS LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION INVOLVED GOES AS TO WHAT IS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS EXPERIENCED TO BE ABLE TO LEAD AND MAKE COMMAND DECISIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. I AM GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT PART OF THIS WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THE CERTIFICATIONS AND TRADING FOR ANY OF TRAINING FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, WHETHER THAT BE WITH ANY CAO, NOT JUST YOU, WHETHER THAT BE WITH THE MAYOR OR I MEAN THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THEN I AM ALSO GOING TO ASK ABOUT CERTIFICATIONS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING SPECIFICALLY OTHER THAN JUST ON-THE-JOB TRAINING. WHAT IS RECORD IN ORDER TO MAC DEMANDS AND CONTROL DECISIONS OUT IN THE FIELD DURING THE RIOTS OR PROTESTS WE HAVE HAD. >> NAIR: HAPPY TO PROVIDE WITH YOU A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CERTIFICATION. TO THE EXTENT YOUR SUGGESTING THE LENT FLOOR -- I BELIEVE THIS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS ALLEGED IN THE PAST, IT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE. SOME OF YOUR FOLKS SAID THAT ON THE RECORD IF A PUBLIC MEETING. I CAN CLEARLY REFUTE THAT TO THE EXTENT YOUR SUGGESTING THAT AND WE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT CERTIFICATIONS THAT OFFICERS HAVE INCLUDING POLICE CHIEF WITH HIS 40 SOME YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. >> HAS GOOD TRAININGEN AND I AM WONDERING WHAT THE FORMALIZED TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS ARE. >> WHEN THEY GET PROMOTED FROM REGULAR LIEUTENANT OR COMMANDER OR, I GUESS NOT COMMONER, BUT WHEN THEY GET PROMOTESSED FROM THERE NORMAL BOOTS ON THE GROUND WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL, TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION FOR THAT.. ESPECIALLY LEADING INTO THIS COPS GRANT AND KNOWING THAT WE WANT TO HERE MORE DETECTIVES AND FIGHT VIOLENT CRIME. I THINK IT I AM SUGGESTING THAT I AM QUESTIONING INVOLVEMENT OF KIND OF THE MIXTURE BETWEEN CITY ADMINISTRATION AND THE LEADERSHIP OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND QUESTIONING WHO IS IN CHARGE OF MAKING THE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHEN IT IS INVOLVED IN THESE PROTESTS LIKE THE ONATE STATUE WHICH LED TO A VIOLENT CRIME AND DANGER. LIKE THE PROTESTS AND RIOTS DOWNTOWN WHICH I THINK CAUSED CONSIDERABLE DAMAGE BUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HEARING, THAT I AM HEARING AS A COUNCILOR AND ALSO AS A RESIDENT AND MOM CONCERNED FOR HER FAMILY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, I HAVE FAMILY BUSINESSES HERE. I AM CONCERNED IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN PRESENT DURING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS IN REGARDS TO THIS SITUATION OF THE RIOT AND PROTESTS. IS THERE A SIGN-IN SHEET. I RECOGNIZE THAT IN A LOT OF SITUATIONS REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE IS INDEED SIGN-IN SHEETS AND ROSTERS. IS THERE SOME OF THAT TO PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC AND ALL OF US SO WE KNOW INDEED THERE WAS NO QUESTION ABOUT ANYBODY'S INVOLVEMENT AND EXPERIENCE AND CERTIFICATIONS FOR TRAINING? >> NAIR: SURE. I AM SURE IF WE HAVE SIGN IN SHEETS OR THE DEPARTMENT HAS SIGN IN SHEETS THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM. I AM IN YOUR HER PUBLIC RECORD. THEY MIGHT CONTAIN SOME TAXABLE INFORMATION. I EXILE SAY IT AGAIN, 11TH FLOOR MYSELF MAYOR CO CFO NONE OF US ARE INVOLVED IN THE TACTICAL DECISION MACING REGARDING PROTESTS OR WHAT YOU REFER TO AS RIOTS. >> THAT I CAN I FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENTS WHILE I ASK THESE QUESTIONS. MY BLOOD PRESSURE GOES UP TO ASK THEM BUT THEY ARE ON PEOPLES' MINDS. >> SO, HANG ON LET ME GET DOWN BECAUSE DID I A FEW AT ONCE. MOVING ONTO A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH ALL OF THIS I AM CHANGING GEARS A LITTLE BIT, EXECUTIVE ORDER BANNING WEAPONS FROM CITY PROPERTIES, DO YOU THINK IT IS LEGAL CONSTITUTIONAL OR ANY VIOLATION OF THE STATE LAW TO ISSUE THESE ORDERS RESTRICTING SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO THE PUBLIC, PARTICULARLY FOREGOING THE CITY COUNCILOR STATE LEGISLATURE, WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF CREATING LAWS? >> NAIR: OUR PURPOSE IN THIS ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION WAS ACTUALLY TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS FOLLOWING STATE LAW. SO, THE STATE LEGISLATURE CHOOSE TO PASS LAWS RESTRICTING THE CARRYING OF DEADLY WEAPONS IN SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES. THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DEFINE THAT NARROWLY AS BEING A PUBLIC SCHOOL BUILDING BUT TO DEFINE THAT MORE BROADLY TO INCLUDE WORDS LIKE PLAYING FIELDS AND INCLUDE PLACES WHERE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES OCCUR, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY SCHOOL GROUNDS. OUR VERY ABLABLE LAWYERS ARE DEFENDING THESE ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTIONS IN COURT AND I AM SURE COULD ANSWER YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THERE WAS A SHOOTING BEFORE YOU TOOK OFFICE, SHOTS FIRED NEAR ALAMOSA COMMUNITY CENTER IN COUNCILLOR PENA'S DISTRICTS. FORTUNATELY, THANKFULLY NOBODY WAS INJURED, NOBODY WAS HURT, NO LIVES WERE LOST AT THAT MOMENT BUT THAT IS WHAT CAUSED TO US LOOK AT POLICIES AND SAY, ARE WE FOLLOWING EXISTING STATE LAW AND ARE WE KEEPING EVERYBODY SAFE. ON THE FLIP SIDE IF WE AREN'T FOLLOWING DATE LAW AND CARRYING GUNS WE COULD INCUR SOME SIGNIFY CAN'T LIABILITY FOR IF ENFORCEMENT SIGNIFICANTF WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THOSE. >> Councilor Bassan: I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTITUENT THAT DON'T KNOW THAT HISTORY AND BACKGROUND. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD AND PUBLIC THAT IS WATCHING THEY CAN NOW HEAR THAT IS WHERE THE IMPETUS WAS BEHIND THIS. I VALUE AND TREASURE THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. I AM ALMOST DONE WITH THESE AND THEN I AM GOING TO GET TO THE EASY ONES. R-93 IS GOING TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. GRANT THAT COUNCILOR BORREGO BROUGHT UP BUT HAVE WE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH FEDERAL AGENTS ON FIGHTING VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CITY PRIOR TO APPROVING THIS GRANT? >> NAIR: APD HAS WORKED FOR MANY YEARS ON COMBATING VIOLENT CRIME IF OUR CITY WITH OUR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS WITH COUNTY PARTNERS, WITH THE STATE POLICE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE EVERYDAY. >> Councilor Bassan: WOULD YOU SAYING ON LEGEND IS IN EFFECT ALREADY. >> NAIR: I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OPERATION LEGEND. IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHIFTING CONCEPT BUT U.S. ATTORNEY AND SON WOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: OKAY. THERE HAS BEEN A TWEET THAT JUST CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT AGO. DOES CHIEF STILL HAVE SUPPORT OF ADMINISTRATION. >> OF. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN DISPELL MYTHS BUT WE DON'T FALL INTO THE RUMOR MILL. HE WAS SO CLEARLY THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB AT THAT TIME THAT ONATE WHEN WE WENT -- IT IS DEEPLY DISRESPECTFUL TO CHIEF GEIER TO ENGAGE IN RUMORS ON LINE. RUMORS ON INTERNET ARE NOT CORRECT BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ON TWITTER A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO. ALL RIGHT, AM I DONE WITH THE HARD QUESTIONS. NOW GOING BACK TO THE OTHER ONES. HOW MANY OF THE VACANT JOBS 600 THAT WERE RECORDED HAVE BEEN VACANT SINCE FEBRUARY 2020 OR EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. >> WE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND STAFF IS COMPILING THIS. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO FORKED THOSE ANSWERS SOME TIME BY TOMORROW. >> I AM HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN WE MEET. SO, I HOPE THAT -- DOES THAT GO FOR BASICALLY THE OTHER QUESTIONS TOO? SHOULD I SKIP THOSE? IT IS HOW MANY CITY EMPLOYEES POSITIONS HAVE BEEN TERMINATEDDED OR VACATED SINCE COVID-19. WE ARE GETTING INTO BUDGET CONVERSATIONS. THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT WITH LONGEVITY OF HOW LONG THESE POSITION ^ S HAVE BEEN AROUND. THE OTHER ONE WAS WHAT IS TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WAGES. AM I CORRECT IN ASSUMING CAN I WAIT FOR THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. >> YES, YOU ARE RIGHT IN ASSUMING THAT, SO WE WILL COMPILE THEM TOGETHER AND SEND IT TO YOU BY TOMORROW. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. MY LAST QUESTION, THEN, BECAUSE, YEAH, MY LAST QUESTION, THEN, IS IN REGARDS TO THE PORT A PARTY ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND I KNOW THAT HAS COME UP A FEW TIMES IN THE MEDIA, THERE HAS BEEN SOME ARTICLES ABOUT HOW -- I HAVE HAD A CONSTITUENT OR TWO REACH OUT, IF WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO KEEP THE PORT A POT TIES FOR PUBLIC USE, WHY DON'T WE REMOVE PERMANENT THIS THIS IS NOT COUNCILLOR BENTON'S PORTA POTTY. THIS IS NOT THE ONE THAT HAS WORKED. THERE ARE OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT HAVE BECOME FROM MY UNDERSTANDING VERY DISGUSTING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING ABOUT THAT. >> RAEL: YES. COUNCILLOR BENTON'S PORTA POTY IS DOING WELL. I WILL SAY TO YOU WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A VENDOR RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING AND KEEPING THOSE CLEAN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE DEPLOYED THEM THROUGH OUR EOC PROCESS EARLIER IN THE BEGINNING OF COVID-19 JUST TO ENSURE WE HAD PLACES FOR FOLKS TO GO AND USE THE FACILITIES. FIRST AND FOREMOST IF ANY OF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC POTTIES WOULD YOU LIKE US TO LOOK AT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO MOVE THEM WHEREVER MAY BE A BETTER LOCATION AND GET WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO ENSURE WE KEEP THEM CLEAN AND OBVIOUSLY IN GOOD SHAPE AS IT RELATES TO THE USE OF THE PUBLIC. SO, IT IS OUT THERE. WE ARE EVALUATING IT. AS THE HOMELESS POPULATION SHIFTS TO THE CITY WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THEM TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. >> Councilor Bassan: I APPRECIATE KNOWINGS THAT. I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE IN KIND OF A PLACE WHY WE ARE USING THE CITY MORE BUT DON'T HAVE THE ADEQUATE EMPLOYMENT RATE PER SE BECAUSE OF COVID-19. I THANK YOU FOR BEING ACCESSIBLE FOR THAT. >> Councilor Bassan: THAT WAS ENDS OF MY QUESTIONS THIS WEEK. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Jones: (INAUDIBLE) CRIME, DESTRUCTION OF OUR PROPERTY AND WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHY IT IS HAPPENING. WHY IT ISN'T BEING STOPPED. ALONG AND WITH THAT INFORMATION, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. >> FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LOOK TO HAVE A REPORT ON THE ATTRITION OF APD. WE ASKED THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. I WANT TO ASK YOU TO ANSWER THIS EVENING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT BY MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OFFICERS WORKING ON THE CASA. TOTAL NUMBER OF OFFICERS WHO AND RANK COMMITTED TO THE CASA. TOTAL NUMBER OF OFFICERS WORKING ON THE STREET. BOOTS ON THE GROUND. HOW MANY PEOPLE, SWORN OFFICERS, ARE ACTUALLY WORKING PATROLS, RESPONDING TO CALLS, PATROLLING ON OUR STREETS BEING SEEN BY CITIZENS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS IN EACH AREA COMMAND AND RANKING IN EACH COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, I WOULD LOOK TO KNOW YOUR BEST GUESS FOR YOUR PLAN, HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE NEEDED BEFORE WE ARE FULLY STAFFED AND WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT WILL HAPPEN AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THAT THAT WILL COST? >> THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TALK ABOUT IT. DO OUR OFFICERS HAVE ENOUGH EQUIPMENT. AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE GET EMERGENCY REQUESTS FROM APD ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. WHAT DO THEY NEED, HOW MUCH WILL IT COST AND WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE OF WHEN IT WILL BE NEEDED AND OR WHEN IT WILL BE PROVIDED. THEN, THIS IS IT, HOW MANY HAVE GIVEN NOTIFICATION FOR ARE ARE GOING TO RETIRE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. HOW MANY ARE COMING DID YOU EXPECT TO HAVE IN NEW PLACES READY TO START? I THINK THAT IS IT. IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE, M S. NAIR, BY MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK PLEASE. >> NAIR: I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A BIT OF MISCOMMUNICATION AND THOUGHT WE WERE MAKING THIS PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE BUT HAPPY TO GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS AND TALK ABOUT THEM AT THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING. >> Coun. Jones: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT IN WRITING. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, LAST CALL FOR ADMINISTRATION Q AND A? >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE EXPECTED TO HEAR A DISCUSSION TONIGHT ABOUT ADAPT PROGRAM AND EARLIER I HAD A CALL FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TELLING ME THEY WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THAT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. SO, BECAUSE I HAD ASKED FOR THAT AND I EXPECTED IT TODAY, I TOLD THEM THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE. THAT I WOULD WAIT UNTIL THEN BUT I WANTED THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC TO KNOW WHEN TO EXPECT THAT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA MADE A NOTE AND WE'LL GET THAT ON THE PRESENTATIONS FOR NEXT AGENDA. >> NAIR: WE WERE READY TO GO WITH THAT AND WE WERE ASKED BY COUNCIL STAFF TO HELD THAT OFF BECAUSE OF . >> Coun. Davis: WE WERE LOOKING FOR A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND KNOWING WE HAD A LONG AGENDA THIS EVENING. WE WILL GET THAT SCHEDULED ACCORDINGLY. ANY OTHER ITEMS? SEEING NONE, WE MOVE ONTO MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Gibson: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 17 JOURNAL. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION, MS. ORTEGA, CHANCE TO PRACTICE OUR ROLL CALL. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 8 ZERO WITH COUNCILLOR HARRIS EXCUSED. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. ANY CHANGES TO LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? WE'LL START WITH COUNCILLOR PENA. >> Coun. Pena: I MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING OC9 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION, REAPPOINTMENT TO OFFICE SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. >> Coun. Davis: REMINDER, EASY FOR US TO USE RAISE THE HANDS BUT ALSO DO IT IF YOU PUT YOUR HANDS UP. I SEE COUNCILOR ZFA IS SECOND. >> REMINDER TWO/3 OF COUNCILORS PRESENT ARE REQUIRED. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> Coun. Pena: WE STILL HAVE YOU ON MUTE. WOULD YOU REDO THAT FOR US AGAIN. >> Coun. Pena: MY COMPUTER IS STILL MUTING ITSELF. I MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING R-100 AND PLACING IT ON SEPTEMBER 21 AGENDA FOR ACTION. APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT FUND FROM DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE FOR MINORITY BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND PROVIDING APPROPRIATION TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IN FISCAL YEARS 2021 AND 2022. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9 ZERO, THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS? >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING R-93 ON IT IN THE IT IN'S AGENDA FOR ACTION APPROVING AUTHORIZING A GRANT AGREEMENT FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES AND PROVIDING APPROPRIATION TO THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021. >> Coun. Pena: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: QUESTION. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0, THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, WOULD YOU TAKE THE NEXT ONE. >> Councilor Bassan: MOVE TO AMEND LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO PLACE R-92 ON THE SEPTEMBER 21 COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION INSTEAD OF MOVING IT FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION TODAY. R-92 IS APPROVING FISCAL YEAR 2021 APPROPRIATIONS TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC RELIEF TO SMALL AND LOCAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC THROUGH THE CORONAVIRUS RELIEF AND ECONOMIC SECURITY ACT. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK COUNCILOR JONES HAD FIRST ON THAT ONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0. >> COUNCILLOR BENTON? >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING R-94 ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION. THIS IS DELAYING IMPLEMENTATION OF ORDINANCE O-20-12 FOR A TIME PERIOD OF TWO MONTHS TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE CORRECTION OF CERTAIN ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BILL. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: Y. >> Coun. Harris: LET ME GET MY SCRIPT UP. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL JUST MAKE IT IF YOU'LL SECOND IT. RULES SUSPEND FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING EC-138 ON THE AGENDA FOR ACTION, RACER RECOMMENDATION OF CONSENSUS PLANNING FOR LANDSCAPE CONSULTANTS FOR SINGING ARROW ARROYO OPEN SPACE. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> Coun. Davis: RULES SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC-136 ON THE AGENDA FOR FINAL ACTION. THIS IS AMENDMENT TO RENTAL CAR CONSENSUS AGREEMENTS, HOTEL LEASE AND CONCESSION AGREEMENTS AT AIRPORT. NEED A SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. FINALLY I MOVE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING EC-146 AND PLACING IT ON SEPTEMBER 21 COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? SEEING NONE, COUNCILLOR GIBSON. >> Coun. Gibson: I WILL PATCH APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >> Coun. Davis: SEVERAL SECOND. I'LL TAKE COUNCILOR BASSAN ON THIS ONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. WE ARE ONTO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. WHILE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT -- >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY, AUGUST 24 AND REPORTS OUT FOLLOWING ITEMS. EC-135 THAT IT BE APPROVED. ACTED UPON AT WHICH MEETING. O, 82, O84 AND R86 THEY DO PASS. IN THE MATTER OF O-18, 83 AND R-89 THAT IT THEY BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATIONS AND IN THE MATTER OF O-31 THAT IT DO PASS AND BE ACTED UPON AT MEETING AT WHICH IT WAS REPORTED. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION? I AM SORRY. MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9-0. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 25 AND REPORTS OUT FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC-FOR 87, EC-6 AND OC5 RECEIPT BE NOTED. IN THE MATTER OF O-27 IT DO PASS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR JONES THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. NEXT DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. PRESIDENT. R-18, STANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT AT 5609 EFFORT ROOT NORTHWEST. I MOVE FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL SEPTEMBER 21. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD ALSO WANTED TO KNOW THAT I AM MOVING THIS AS DEFERRAL TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: SECOND. >> Coun. Borrego: I THINK I WAS THE SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. THAT MATTER IS DEFERRED ON A 9-0 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE ONTO CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA? FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT WHO ARE APPOINTEDDED TO SERVE ON BOARD OR COMMISSION, YOU MIGHT BE WATCHING FROM HOME, THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH US. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR CITY ESPECIALLY NOW AS COMPLICATED AS IT CAN BE. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE SEE OUR DIRECTOR WAS IN THE WAITING ROOM. WE ASKED HIM TO JOIN TO SAY HELLO, APPOINTING HIM TO CITY'S PERSONNEL OR LABOR MANAGEMENT BOARD AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR BENTON? >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL TWO ITEMS FROM CONSENT. ONE IS ITEM A, EC-21-12, SIDEWALK NOTICES. AND THEN ITEM D EC-21-15 WHICH IS DECLARING ADDRESS ON FIFTH NONESSENTIAL. >> Coun. Davis: REMOVING A AND TODAY FOR COUNCILOR BENTON. >> Coun. Pena: I ACTUALLY WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE DIRECTOR. MORE IMPORTANTLY, MY APPOINTEE TO OPEN SPACE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CHANGES TO CONSENT? >> Coun. Gibson: I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> Coun. Davis: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. COUNCILOR HAIRS BACK ON CONSENT ITEM A, 21-12. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: YEAH. THIS SIDEWALK -- I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS FOR RECEIPT BE NOTED FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION BUT I THINK I AM GOING TO REQUEST A DEFERRAL OF THIS. READING THE STAFF WRITE-UP ON THIS IS MIND BOGGLING. IT ILLUSTRATES DIFFICULTY WE HAVE WITH EXPLAINING TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE SIDEWALK ORDINANCE AND UNDER THIS NOT UNCOMMON WITH OTHER CITIES BY THE WAY, EXPECTATION THAT THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY OR THE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY FRONTING A SIDEWALK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALK ONCE INSTALLED AND OF COURSE TYPICALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE DEVELOPING NEW, WE REQUIRE THEM TO DEVELOP THOSE FACILITIES. WE HAD A 200 MILLION-DOLLAR BACKLOG OF AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT BACKLOG UNDER OUR TRANSITION PLAN FOR ADA AND WE HAVE SIDEWALKS ALL OVER TOWN, ONCE AGAIN, I AM SURE I HAVE LION'S SHARE OF THEM IN DISTRICT 2 BUT A LOT OF NON-ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS WHERE REALLY A PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR OR EVEN A PERSON WALKING WITH CRUTCHES OR WHATEVER IT MAY SPAY BE, ARE FORCED INTO THE STREET. OF THERE IS NO CURB RAMPS AND DRIVE PADS ARE NOT ADD QUALITY. WE TACKLE THESE WHEN WE DID A MAJOR NEIGHBORHOOD REHABILITATION OF STREETS BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT I DO THINK THIS IS REALLY CONFUSING. I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT NOW. I THOUGHT I KNEW A LOT ABOUT IT BUT SINCE I READ THE STAFF REPORT I REALIZE HOW LITTLE I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. WITH HOW WE DEAL WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. SO, WITH THAT, I DID MOVE RECEIPT BE NOTED. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A SECOND MR. PRESIDENT BUT AFTER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO -- >> Coun. Davis: I ACKNOWLEDGED MYSELF AS A SECOND THERE. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS NOW DEFERRAL. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SECOND THAT. >> Coun. Benton: TO OUR NEXT MEETING, MR. PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK. DEFERRED 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: YOU ALSO PULLED ITEM D, EC-150. >> Coun. Benton: YES. FOR PURPOSES OF CONSIDERATION I'LL MOVE A RECEIPT BE NOTED ON THIS. IS THAT CORRECT MOTION? >> Coun. Davis: IT WOULD BE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> Coun. Benton: APPROVAL, SO, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION. THIS IS A 1/3-ACRE PROPERTY NORTH WELLS PARK AREA WHERE DEBATE IS TO WHERE GATEWAY SHOULD BE PLACED AND ISSUES WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF, WELLS PARK AND COMMITMENTS WE MADE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE APPROVED THE SUPPORTED HOUSING PROJECT THAT IS FINALLY GOING UNDER CONSTRUCTION I THINK THIS YEAR, I HOPE. HOPE WORKS. AND THIS IS ONLY A THIRD OF AN ACRE BUT IT IS WELL LOCATED IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT QUARTER, FOURTH STREET. AGAIN, WITH A LOT OF THE ACTION THAT IS GOING ON AND CONCERNS IN THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, I REALIZE THAT THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT IS UNDER THE CONTROL OF DMD AT THIS TIME. I WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS COULD -- BEFORE WE LET GO OF THIS PROPERTY -- WHAT OTHER OPTIONSES MIGHT WE WANT TO CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO NEIGHBORHOOD REHABILITATION, IT IS ZONED THAT ANOTHER JUNK YARD CAN GO IN THERE. IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN. THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON PERHAPS RESULTS OF THE IMPACT AMENDMENT TO THE IDO BUT IT DOES RAISE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND IF THERE WAS A SECOND ON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE A DEFERRAL ON THE AS WELL. BOTH OF THESE JUST A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DMD AND TALK ABOUT THESE. >> Coun. Davis: A NUMBER OF SECONDS. I YOU A COUNCILOR SENA FIRST. MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Davis: THE MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL TO NEXT MEETING? >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> RAEL: MR. PRESIDENT, BE HAPPY WITH DEFERRAL FOR TWO WEEKS BUT JUST COUNCILLOR BENTON WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION PRIOR TO GETTING THIS. I THINK FINANCE MIGHT HAVE CLARIFIED BUT HAPPY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU, THERE IS POTENTIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WOULD HELP TO SPUR GROWTH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAD VALUE IN TERMS OF JOBS, ET CETERA, BUT WE'LL VISIT WITH YOU AND WE ARE OKAY WITH THE DEAF AL DEFE. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> Coun. Davis: MOVING ONTO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILLOR GIBSON. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14 AT 3:00 VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING SEPTEMBER 15 AT 3:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >> Coun. Jones: LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16 IS CANCELLED. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. MR. MELENDRES WE ARE GOING TO PUT ORCHIDIC HERE. NEXT UP WE'LL DO PUBLIC HEARINGS. THESE WILL JUST BE TO ADOPT FINDINGS IN EACH OF THESE MATTERS. BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILOR SENA, AND COUNCILOR BORREGO WITH RECUSAL MESSAGES. >> Coun. Sena: THE ITEM WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF AS I HAVE IN THE PAST BECAUSE I AM OFFICER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SIGNED ON AS ONE OF THE APPELLANTS AS I HAVE EXPLAINED PREVIOUSLY IN MY PAST RECUSAL ON THE MATTER AND WILL RECUSE MYSELF ONCE AGAIN. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. AGAIN I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AS I HAVE IN THE PAST SINCE I SIT ON THE AMAFCA BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THERE IS AMAFCA EASEMENTS INVOLVED IN THE OPEN SPACE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY. SO, FOR THAT REASON I FEEL IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BE IMPARTIAL. THANK YOU. IF SOMEBODY COULD CALL ME WHEN THIS IS DONE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> Coun. Davis: THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE COUNCILORS OUT OF THE MEETING HERE AND THEY WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS WE ARE DONE. MR. MELENDRES, WOULD YOU TO US A FAVOR AND INTRODUCE AC-20-FOR BRIEFLY AND WE I'LL MAKE APPROPRIATE MOTION. >> AC-20-FOUR APPEAL FROM ENVIRONMENT AT PLANNING, AUGUST 17 MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO TAKE ACTION ON FINDINGS AT THIS MEETING TODAY, SEPTEMBER 9. GIVEN OUTCOME THAT THE COUNCIL FULL HEARING RESULTED IN, IT APPEARS IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS OF THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER BECAUSE ULTIMATE OUTCOME WAS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE FINDINGS AS PROVIDED TO COUNCIL IN PRIOR HEAR. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT FINDINGS OF THE LUHO. WE NEED A SECOND. >> I SAW COUNCILOR JONES FIRST. >> Coun. Jones: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO ADOPT FINDINGS? GOING ONCE, TWICE. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. SO, YOU KNOW, I VOTED IN THE MINORITY ON THIS. I DON'T NECESSARILY COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE LUHO'S FINDINGS. HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE WAY IT WENT DOWN THAT THAT PROBABLY IS THE MOST SENSIBLE THING TO DO. BUT I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE OF THAT. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LUHO'S FINDINGS THAT I THOUGHT I COULD NOT AGREE WITH. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MR. MELENDRES, CLARIFY FOR US, FOR ME AT LEAST, REMIND US OF THE NUMBER OF VOTES REQUIRED ON THIS. SOMETIMES WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE FIVE BUT IN THIS CASE WE ARE OKAY WITH FOUR. >> IT IS SIMPLE MAJORITY WITH SEVEN VOTING, SIMPLE MAJORITY WOULD EQUAL FOUR. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: NO. CLERK: PASSES ON 5-2 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: MR. MELENDRES, WOULD YOU INTRODUCE TO AC-20-5 AS WELL ABOUT. >> MELENDRES. I APOLOGIZE, HAD A HARD TIME UNMUTING MYSELF. THIS IS SIMPLY SECOND APPEAL RELATED TO SAME EXACT SUBJECT, OUTCOME WAS SAME AT PRIOR MEETING, SO, SIMPLY NEEDS ADDITIONAL MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: SO I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT FINDINGS OF THE LUHO AND COUNCILOR JONES HAS SECONDED. OTHER DISCUSSION HERE? AND SEEING NONE, MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: NO. PASSES ON 5-2 VOTE. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. AND WE WILL BRING THOSE OTHER COUNCILORS BACK IN. WE'LL TAKE JUST A MINUTE HERE FOR THOSE THAT NEED A BRIEF BREAK. WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE LONGER SO FAR. SO, WE ARE AT ITEM 13 WHICH IS APPROVALS. FOR THOSE THAT NEED A BRIEF BREAK, LET'S TAKE ONE OR TWO MINUTES. WHILE WE BRING THEM BACK AND IF IT IS OKAY WITH EVERYBODY, WE'LL TRY TO DO APPROVALS AND GET TO US ABOUT 5:30 BEFORE WE TAKE OUR DINNER BREAK IF THAT IS OKAY. IF YOU NEED TO STRETCH YOUR LEGS, DO THAT AND WE'LL COME BACK RIGHT AT 5:00. AND TAKE 30 MORE MINUTES TO GET TO US 5:30 SO WE HAVE TIME TO GET EVERYBODY INTO A DINNER BREAK. STAND IN ADJOURNMENT FOR FIVE MINUTES WHILE WE GET EVERYBODY BACK TOGETHER. >> Coun. Davis: ANY FURTHER COMMENT. >> Coun. Pena: I WANT TO THANK HER BECAUSE SHE HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB AND TAKES TIME OUT OF HER BUSY SCHEDULE TO DO COMMUNITY SERVICE BUT HER ROLE IS IMPORTANT SO THANK YOU TWILA. >> Coun. Davis: MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> CLERK: PASSES 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT UP EC-136, BLANKET AMENDMENT TO RENTAL CAR CONCESSION LEASE AGREEMENT TEMPORARYAGREEMENT TO HOTEL LEASING AGREEMENT. MOVE APPROVAL. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: DIRECTOR ALLEN IS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE ROOM. ANY INTRODUCTION OR COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS AT AIRPORT EVERYTHING FROM OUR LOCAL FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONCESSION COMPANIES TO RENTAL AND HOTEL PARTNERS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO US THEY ARE STRONG COMING OUT OF THIS CRISIS AND AIRPORT AS WELL AND SO, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO EASE BURDEN THEY ARE SEEING IN THE FINANCIAL CRISIS THAT HAS BEEN CAUSED BY THE PANDEMIC. APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS BILL AND HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> Coun. Davis: I KNOW YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH VENDORS AND COMING UP WITH CREATIVE STRATEGIES. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK: PASSES 9-0. >> COUNCILOR HAIRS, ITEMS -- >> EC-138. MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION OF CONSENSUS PLANNING INC. FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR SINGING ARROW AND TIJERAS ARROYO OPEN SPACE. MOVE APPROVAL. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMENTS FROM ADMINISTRATION? I DON'T SEE ANY. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> NEXT UP IS FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILLOR HARRIS YOU HAVE O-72 AND A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM ADMINISTRATION HERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE. >> Coun. Harris: THERE ARE AMENDMENTS BUT I BELIEVE THEY ARE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT (INAUDIBLE) O-72 AMENDING SECTION 1420 DELAPIDATED BUILDINGS. >> (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR BENTON DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR IS THAT A SECOND? >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. I DO HAVE AMENDMENT TO THIS. GO AHEAD. THIS IS AMENDMENT AND IT IS COUNCIL HAR IS EXCITED ABOUT IT BUT IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO PERHAPS CANNOT AFFORD TO PUT THE PLEXIGLASS AND IT IS EXPENSIVE. WE WOULD RATHER SEE THE PROPERTIES SECURED THAN TO WORRY ABOUT THE LOOKS OF EXPENSIVE GLASS LIKE PRODUCT WHICH SOMETIMES WORKS. SO, THIS IS ON PAGE 3 AMEND LINES 10 THROUGH 12, SECTION 1420 AS FOLLOWS. NO. D. BROKEN OR UNREPAIRED, THREAT UNREPAIRED AND ADD UNCOVERED GLASS WITHIN ANY WINDOW OR DOOR -- DELETE INCLUDING WINDOWS AND DOORS COVERED BY PLYWOOD OR SIMILAR MATERIAL TO A PERIOD GREATER THAN SEVEN DAYS. IT TAKES OUT THE GLASS AND I WOULD ASK YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Harris: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. DISCUSSION OR DISCUSSION FROM ADMINISTRATION OR COMMENTS? >> S ABOUT >> Councilor Bassan: THE AMENDMENT DOES GET RID OF THE SEVEN DAYS ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE KURT CURRENT STATUS OF SEVN DAYS. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, I HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT AS WELL BUT I WANT TO DEFER TO COUNCILLOR HARRIS IF YOU WANT TO DO FURTHER DISCUSSION OR GO TO ADMINISTRATION. >> Coun. Harris: GO TO SECOND AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2, PAGE FOR, STRIKING LINES 1 THROUGH 3,SESSIONALLY REMOVES SECTION THAT STATES NO ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN REHAB EFFORTS TO BRING A BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE ARE PERMITTED TO OCCUR ON THE BUILDING OR PROPERTY. THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE HAD AT COMMITTEE AND EVERYBODY FELT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE WAS DISAGREEMENT OR DISCUSSION AMONG US THAT NEEDED TO BE FERRETED OUT A LITTLE BIT. I'LL LET THE SPONSOR SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE WHEN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN ORIGINAL ORDINANCE UPDATE HERE. BUT, ESSENTIALLY, IT IS MY BELIEF AND I THINK WHAT WE HEARD TESTIMONY FROM SOME OF THE OWNERS OR FOLKS CONCERNED ABOUT WORKING IN THIS PROCESS IS THAT WITH THE CURRENT LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED, PROPERTY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WAS DELAPIDATED COULDN'T BE PUT TO OTHER USE TO SUPPORT RENOVATION OR REHAB OF THE PROPERTY. EACH OF THOSE PLANS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR ADAPT. SO IT IS NOT THAT SOMEONE COULD SET UP SHOP IN THE FRONT YARD OR IN THE PARKING LOT. WE WANTED TO ENSURE SOMEONE HAD A WAY TO MAKE REVENUE IF THEY NEEDED TO WITH THE CITY'S PERMISSION UNDER THIS PROCESS IN ORDER TO RAISE FUNDS THEY NEEDED TO DO THE WORK. FOR THAT REASON I PROPOSE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. >> Coun. Harris: I'LL SECOND THAT. WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN SOME PLACES, ALBUQUERQUE IS A POPULAR SPOT FOR MOVIE SHOOTS AND SOME OF THESE DELAPIDATED BUILDINGS ARE BEING USED BY MOVIE SETS BECAUSE THEY ARE DELAPIDATED. IT CREATED A PER VERSE INCENTIVE TO MAKE MONEY AND KEEP THESE PLACES LOOKING HORRIBLE. IN FACT FRANKLIN PLAZA THERE WAS A ZONBIE MOVIE SHOT THERE. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE MAKING A PROFIT ON MAKING THEIR BUILDINGS SUITABLE FOR A ZOMBIE MOVIE IN THE CITY. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS RECOGNIZED THIS AND THEY ARE DOING SOME PERMITTING AND SOME OTHER THINGS AND REALLY A LITTLE QUIBBLE OF WHAT YOU SAID IS LET'S GET THIS THING THROUGH AND WE CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, BUT PEOPLE MAKE MONEY FROM THE DELAPIDATED PROPERTY, THAT IS JUST ENSURING ANY THAT MONEY TY MAKE GO INTO THE REHABBING. >> IF SOMEONE WAS USING THE MONEY TO PAYOFF PROPERTY TAXES, AND I JUST REALLY THOUGHT THAT IS JUST PUTTING THE MONEY (INAUDIBLE) I THINK THERE IS ROOM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. IN PART BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THIS THING PASSED AND DOWN THE ROAD. I WANT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT MERGING THE COMMERCIAL DELAPIDATED POLICY AND (INAUDIBLE). FOR NOW, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE BOTH FOUND ISSUE TO WORK ON AND A GOOD PILOT PROJECT WE FOLLOWED UP ON AND PROCEED MOST TO MAKE CITY WIDE. THAT IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT. LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS, IF THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT ANSWER WE'LL COME BACK ON IT. >> Councilor Bassan: ARE YOU NOT SEEING HANDS UP. DO I HAVE A QUESTION. >> Coun. Davis: I AM NOT BUT I FIXED IT NOW. GO AHEAD. >> S ABOUT BASS I THINK >> Councilor Bassan: I THINK COUNCILLOR HARRIS ANSWER THE PART OF THIS. IN MY HEAD, A, WE DON'T WANT TO INFRINGE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS IF CITY LEGAL CONFIRMED THAT IS A RISK WE ARE TAKING. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BUT MY QUESTION IS, IS IT JUST MOVIES OR WHAT ELSE ARE PEOPLE DOING IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY WITH THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE I THINK I AGREE THAT ENCOURAGING THEM TO KEEP IT DELAPIDATED TO MAKE MONEY IS NOT THE GOAL OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. AT THE SAME TIME I GUESS I JUST AM WONDERING WHAT OTHER USES HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF ARE WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING? >> Coun. Harris: THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS. ONE OF THE REASON I SPOKE AGAINST THIS THING AND THEN SPOKE WITH DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY WHO REALIZED THAT WE HAD A POINT WHICH IS THAT LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A HOTEL AND IT IS 20 FEET TALL. IT DOESN'T MEET THE ZONING CODE. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF USES THAT THESE THINGS ARE ZONED FOR. AND PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT TO OCCUPY IT, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO DO WHAT IT IS ZONED FOR SO THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ELSE. THAT IS PROBABLY NOT -- AGAIN ADMINISTRATION HAS STEPPED UP AND THE ZONING ISN'T APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE PROPERTY, THEN STOP. SO, AS LONG AS THEY ARE DOING STUFF THEY ARE ZONED TO DO UNDER THE IDO OR WHATEVER, IT IS SAFE, BATHROOMS AND WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND IDEALLY IF YOU COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING THE MONEY IN TO FIX THEM UP RATHER THAN JUST POCKETING THE MONEY AND LEAVING IT DELAPIDATED. (INAUDIBLE) THERE IS A LOT OF ECONOMIC REASONS TO LEAVE THESE DELAPIDATED AND NOT REALLY CARE TOO MUCH. WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THESE PROPERTIES OUT OF THE OWNER'S HAND AND (INAUDIBLE). >> Councilor Bassan: I AGREE. GRATEFUL TO MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILLOR HARRIS FOR WANTING TO GO WITH THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: NOW I AM STARTING TO SEE HANDS. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR YOU MR. PRESIDENT AND THEN ALSO FOR COUNCILLOR HARRIS, MAC I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR THE AMENDMENT CORRECTLY BUT WOULD THERE BE SOME SORT OF CITY FORMAL APPROVAL FOR THE TEMPORARY USE OR IT WOULD JUST BE PERMISSIVE? >> Coun. Harris: WE SHOULD GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION. >> Coun. Davis: WE HAD A NUMBER BACK AND FORTH WITH ADMINISTRATION ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT WORK. CHIEF IMAGE, I BELIEVE, GALLEGN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ROOM. >> WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THAT QUESTION. >> GALLEGOS: I AM SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT IT FOR ME? >> Coun. Benton: JUST THAT WITH ANY GIVEN TEMPORARY USE, LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT IT IS ALLOWED BY ZONING, YOU KNOW, BY THE UNDERLYING ZONING, BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER FORMAL APPROVAL BY THE CITY FOR THE TEMPORARY USE? WOULD THERE BE SPECIAL USE PERMITS REQUIRED? I SUPPOSE THAT WOULD DEPEND WHAT SORT OF ACTIVITY WAS OCCURRING. A LOT OF THESE -- WHAT I ENVISION UNDER THIS AMENDMENT WHICH COULD BE POSITIVE IS THAT IF SOMEBODY HAD A PARKING LOT AND THEY WANTED TO DO SOME POP UPS, JUST BE SOMEWHAT BENEFICIAL OR LIFEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN LIEU OF JUST EMPTY PARKING LOT, I MEAN, COULD WE AMEND IN IF NECESSARY SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE THAT WOULD SAY WITH -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO CALL IT -- WITH ADAPT'S APPROVAL, PRINCIPLE? PERHAPS. >> GALLEGOS: WE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. PROPERTY OWNER COULD FILE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS OR IF IT IS SPECIFICALLY TENTS, WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH YOUR RIGHT NOW WITH CHANGING OF USE. IT IS APPLICATION PROCESS. IT GOES THROUGH ZONING AND THROUGH FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE AND THEN ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WEIGH IN AND MAKE SURE THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY IS STILL FOLLOWING RULES AND REGULATIONS SET FORTH BY THE CITY AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS SAFE. WITH THAT APPROVAL THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH SPECIAL EVENT OR SPECIAL USE. >> Coun. Benton: IS THERE ANYTHING WE NEED TO CHANGE WITH THIS AMENDMENT. IT IS YOUR AMENDMENT OR COUNCILLOR HARRIS? >> Coun. Harris: MR. PRESIDENT , IF I MAY, WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S AMENDMENT DOES IS STRIP IT DOWN AND LEAVE IT TO DISCRETION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. I THINK THAT IS A FINE PLACE TO START. THEN IF WE NEED TO TWEAK IT, YOU FIND THERE IS SOMETHING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE DISCRETION IS NOT EXERCISED IN THE WAY COUNCIL AGREES WITH, WE CAN COME BACK. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: MS. SCHULTZ FROM OUR STAFF, SENIOR PLANNER HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND I THINK SHE HAD A COMMENT TO WEIGH IN. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD IN RESPONSE TO THE COUNCILOR'S QUESTION? >> SCHULTZ: THANK YOU. INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE REGULATES TEMPORARY USES. THERE IS A WHOLE LIST OF WHICH USES ARE TEMPORARY AND A PROCESS FOR GETTING APPROVAL OF THOSE TEMPORARY USES. THAT IS ALL OUTLINED IN THE IDO. ANY TEMPORARY OR ACCESSORY USES THAT WANTED TO HAPPEN ON ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES OR ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES THAT ARE IN THE IDO WHICH ARE PRETTY THOROUGH. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NO. 2? SEEING NONE. >> Coun. Borrego: SO, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT SOMETIMES THE CITY IS ITS OWN WORST ENEMY IN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PROPERTIES BACK IN THE DAY THAT WE LEASED OUT TO THE MOVIES AND I CAN GIVE EXAMPLE, ONE WAS DEANZA MOTEL. WHEN IT WAS DELAPIDATED. IS THERE A TIME FRAME, COUNCILLOR HARRIS, WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL OF HOW LONG -- AND WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW HOW LONG A MOVIE IS GOING TO GO ON OR WHATEVER USE WE ARE LEASING OUT TO. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO THE SPECIAL PERMIT THAT THEY KEEP COMING INTO THE CITY ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION? HOWS DID THAT WORK IN. >> Coun. Harris: IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT, I THINK THERE IS THINGS THE CITY CAN MAKE OWNER OF PROPERTY DO IN TERMS LANDSCAPING SIGNAGE FACADE AS. THEY CAN POST FINES. I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN SUPER AGGRESSIVE. THEY ARE WORKING WITH OWNERS AT DELAPIDATED PROPERTY TO TRY TO FORCE THEM TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND FIX IT UP. IN TERMS OF PERMITS WE ARE LEAVING THAT UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION. SO, MAYBE WE HAVE ADMINISTRATION ANSWER THAT. >> Coun. Borrego: KIND OF THE PILOT PROJECT, SO, IS THERE A TIME FRAME THAT IS PROPOSED LIKE A DELAPIDATED BUILDING CAN STAY SO LONG, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. I AM JUST THROWING THAT OUT. >> Coun. Harris: ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE THIS UP. >> OF COURSE. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. WHAT THIS PROGRAM OUTLINES IS THAT ONCE A BUILDING HAS BEEN DEEMED DID HE LAPEL DELAPIDATEK STARTS. PLANNING DEPARTMENT SENDS PROPERTY OWNER A NOTICE AND SAYS YOUR PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEEMED DELAPIDATED UNDER THE TERMS. YOU HAVE 60 DAYS TO REMEDIATE IT SUFFICIENTLY SO THAT IT IS NO LONGER IN VIOLATION. AFTER THAT 60 DAYTIME LINE, IF THE PROPERTY CONTINUES TO REMAIN DELAPIDATED, THAT IS WHEN THEY GO ON THE CITY'S REGISTRY AND CITY MAINTAIN AS REGISTRATION OF THE DELAPIDATED BUILDINGS NOT IN COMPLIANCE AND PROPERTY OWNER MUST PAY THE CITY TO STAY ON THAT REGISTRATION. THERE IS A $500 FEE ASSOCIATED WITH STAYING ON THE CITY'S LIST. ASSOCIATED WITH BEING ON THAT LIST AND REMEDIATION PLAN. YOUR TO COME UP WITH A REMEDIATION PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON HOW YOU WILL REMEDIATE YOUR BUILDING AND HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE. SOME OF THAT DISCRETION IS LEFT UP TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO GIVE EXTENSIONS BUT GENERALLY, ONCE THIS REMEDIATION PLAN IS IN PLACE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS SIX MONTHS TO COMPLY WITH REMEDIATION PLAN AS SET FORTH AND AGREED TO BY THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >> Coun. Borrego: IS 60 DAYS REALLY -- I MEAN ESPECIALLY NOW DURING COVID-19 AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS AND PEOPLE STRUGGLING, IS 60 DAYS REALLY ADEQUATE? I MEAN, I KNOW WE DON'T WANT DELAPIDATED PROPERTIES TO CONTINUE BUT 60 DAYS GOES BY PRETTY QUICK. >> Coun. Harris: THAT IS 60 DAYS BEFORE YOU GO ON THE LIST. IT IS NOT 60 DAYS TO REMEDIATE. IT IS TO QUICKLY TURN IT AROUND. IF YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO PAY THE FEE AND GO ON THE LIST. >> DELAPIDATED BUILDINGS BRING DOWN THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE INSPIRATION IS FRANKO PLAZA, THAT HAS REDUCED PROPERTY VALUES IN A THREE BLOCK AREA. IT LOWERS QUALITY OF LIFE AND I THINK ALL DELAPIDATED BUILDINGS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT DO THE SAME THING. I THINK ENFORCEMENT HAS NOT BEEN AS ROBUST AS I WOULD LIKE BUT GETTING BETTER. WE HAVE MADE GREAT STRIDES AND ADMINISTRATION AND PROPERTIES THEY HAVE CLEANED UP. ONE OF THE PROPERTIES IN COUNCILOR DAVIS' DISTRICT HAD SHEDS AND HOT TUBS AND INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THAT, THEY JUSTER TO IT DOWN, WHICH IS FINE. IT IS FINE WITH US. HOPEFULLY SOMEONE COMES IN AND BUYS VACANT LOT. BUT ALMOST ANYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THAN WHAT WAS THERE. I DON'T THINK 60 DAYS CONSIDERING THE OTHER SOCIAL COSTS OF HAVING DELAPIDATED PROPERTIES, I THINK 60 DAYS TO EITHER CLEAN IT UP OR GET ON THE LIST AND GO INTO REMEDIATION IS NOT BAD. I TALKED WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WAIVE OR EXTEND OR GIVE PAYMENT PLANS. I DON'T THINK 60 DAYS IS TOO SHORT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: MY APOLOGIES. BACK ON THE RIGHT SCREEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION REGARDING AMENDMENT NO. 2. GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE, SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 2 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE BACK ON YOUR BILL AS TWICE AMENDED. >> Coun. Harris: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDED UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: ONE QUICK SIDE BAR, CHIEF GALLEGOS, ARE YOU ONLY HERE FOR THE OTHER NUISANCE PROPERTY ON GEORGIA OR DO YOU HAVE OTHER ITEMS? >> GALLEGOS: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I WAS ASKED TO STAY HERE FOR THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE JUST NOW PASSED. >> Coun. Davis: IN THAT CASE, COUNCILORS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE A GOOD PLACE FOR TO US TAKE THE DINNER BREAK. IT IS 5:30. WE GOT FARTHER THAN EXPECTED WHICH IS PROBABLY A GOOD START. I PROPOSE WE BE BACK IN 20 MINUTES AT 5:50 WHICH PROBABLY MAKES US CLOSER TO 6:00. WE WILL TRY TO GET BACK CLOSE TO 6:00 FROM OUR DINNER BREAK. (COUNCIL AT DINNER BREAK) >> Coun. Davis: WELCOME BACK TO OUR SEPTEMBER 9 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. FOR THOSE OF YOU FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME OR JOINING US WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK SWITCHES ON THE AGENDA TO GET A FEW EASY THANKS OUT OF THE WAY AND LET CITY STAFF BE ABLE TO GO HOME. IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME, WE FIRST DO ITEM D, CITY CHARTER AMENDMENT. THEN WE'LL DO G WHICH IS A NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING. THOSE ARE QUICK. THEN WE WILL DO THE ITEMS E AND H WHICH ARE THE TRANSIT TAX BILLS AND THEN WHEN I'LL JUST CONTINUE THROUGH. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE IDO ISSUES TO END BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF AMENDMENTS FOR THOSE TONIGHT. THAT CONVERSATION TAKES A LITTLE WHILE AND WE WANT THE STAFF THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THAT CLEARED OUT. I MAKE A MOTION FOR DO PASS ON O-29, AMENDING ARTICLE XVI SECTION 3 AND 6 OF THE CITY CHARTER CHAPTER 2 AND ARTICLE IV SECTION 13 TO CHANGE DATES OF THE EXPLORATORY DATES FOR QUALIFYING PERIOD FOR CANDIDATES AND CHANGING TIME FRAME FOR GATHERING OF SEED MONEY AND TO FILE PETITIONS. >> MR. CLERK CAN I TURN THIS OVER TO YOU TO GIVE US A SUMMARY. THIS IS SECOND HEARING AND YOU HAVE TALKED TO US. REMIND US WHERE WE ARE WITH THESE? >> YES. THANK YOU. THREE THINGS. FIRST, IS IT OVERLAPS PETITION AND QUALIFYING PERIODS UNDER OLD LAW THE PERIOD DID NOT OVERLAP WHICH I KNOW SOME CANDIDATES FOUND FRUSTRATING BECAUSE YOU GET PETITIONS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND THE QUESTION THE QUALIFICATIONS CONTRIBUTIONS AT A DIFFERENT TIME. THIS SHIFTS THE ELECTION CYCLE FORWARD ABOUT A MONTH FOR MAYORAL CYCLE AND THEN IT BASICALLY MOVERS THE DATES AROUND FOR THE COUNCIL SO THAT THE ENTIRE CYCLE REALLY, I THINK, MAKES MORE SENSE DUE TO CHANGES IN LAW IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. EXPLORATORY PERIOD IS OVERLAPPING IN A CHANGE WAY WITH THE SEED MONEY PERIOD AND SO IT ALIGNS THEM IN A BETTER WAY. >> Coun. Davis: ANY QUESTIONS ONEN THESE ITEMS? GOING ONCE. GOING TWICE. SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: I SEE COUNCIL BORREGO WAVING. >> Coun. Borrego: SORRY. I COULDN'T FIND MY RAISE THE HAND BUTTON FAST ENOUGH. SO, THE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS WITH REGARD TO COVID-19 AND DEPENDING ON IF IT CONTINUES HOPEFULLY NOT PAST THE SPRING BUT IF IT DOES, AND THE $5 QUALIFYING IF PEOPLE AREN'T ANSWERING THEIR DOORS, HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO GET THE $5. >> WATSON: AS OF LAST YEAR WE DID HAVE THE ONLINE PORT AL FOR QUALIFICATION CONTRIBUTIONS AND WE ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE ALL OF OUR ONLINE MECHANISMS FOR CONDUCTING ELECTIONS AND WE DO HOPE THAT PORT AL FOR GATHERING CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE BETTER THAN EVER AND IF CONDITIONEDS WANT TO USE THAT, THAT IS AN -- IF CANDIDATES WANT TO USE THAT, THAT IS AN OPTION. IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO USE PAPER, THAT IS ALSO AN OPTION. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU ETHAN. >> Coun. Davis: WOULD YOU RESTART OUR VOICE FOR US? >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: MR. WATSON I THINK THAT IS ALL HAVE YOU WITH US TONIGHT. >> WATSON: THAT IS CORRECT. >> Coun. Davis: HAVE A GOOD NIGHT, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. WE WILL PULL ITEM G, R-22. NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING OR STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT FOR 12 GEORGIA STREET SOUTHEAST. I MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Gibson: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: ADMINISTRATION AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS AVAILABLE. I SEE MR. WILLIAMS AND HIS TEAM IN BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> ARE THERE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY? I SEE NONE. NO WAVING HANDS. >> THIS IS EIGHT UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING THAT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY FIRE DAMAGED BACK IN MARCH OF 2018. SINCE THAT TIME OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY TO KEEP THE PROPERTY FENCED AND BOARDED AND SECURED AND SOMEWHAT CLEANED. SINCE THE FGO MEETING PREVIOUS ON THIS MATTER, IT WAS A REQUEST WE MAKE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO REACH THE OWNER WHO WE HAD DIFFICULTY AT LEAST OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS COMMUNICATING WITH. CODE ENFORCEMENT DID REACH OUT AGAIN TO THE OWNER AND LEFT VOICE MALES, GOT A TELEPHONE NUMBER. DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING BACK BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM SOMEBODY LOCALLY THAT INDICATES THEY ARE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY FROM THE REGISTERED OWNER. WE CAN CONFIRM THAT A LICENSED GENERAL CONTRACTOR HAS PULLED A PERMIT TO REMOVE THE STRUCTURE WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE IN THIS MATTER AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT -- WE HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION AND CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT IS PROPOSING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR. WE DO CONTINUE TO REF EXPLAINS ABOUT RECEIVE COMPLAINTS BY NEIGHBORS BUT WE WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO 30 DAY DEFERRAL, ALLOWING CONTRACTOR TO DO WORK ON THAT AND REPORT BACK ON THE STATUS OF THAT IF IT PLEASES THE COUNCIL. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER COUNCILORS. WE ALL KNOW THIS PROPERTY. THAT IS REALLY GREAT NEWS AND WE GENERALLY TRIED TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO STEP IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. SO, I'LL TAKE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BUT PREPARED TO OFFER THAT DEFERRAL. UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A REASON NOT TO. I MAKE A MOTION FOR 30 DAY DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Gibson: SECOND. CLERK CLERK: THAT MATTER IS DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU DIRECTOR LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE A BIG SECTION, SO WE'LL GET STARTED WITH ITEM E. YOU WANT TO TAKE TRANSPORTATION TAX. >> Coun. Benton: THAT IS FINE. AGGREGATE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT NOT TO EX WEED 50 MILLION. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Benton: I'LL MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR O-31 WHICH IS IN THE COUNCILORS PACKETS AND I PADS. >> Coun. Davis: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I THINK JUST FOR THE RECORD AND FOR THE PUBLIC CAN WE GET IF MR. MENICUCCI, I THOUGHT I SAW HIM EARLY, A QUICK SYNOPSIS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS FOR THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE SO IT IS CLARIFIED FOR EVERYONE. >> MENICUCCI: THIS IS THE BOND PACKAGE SO IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT, CHRIS OUR BOND COUNSEL IS WITH ADMINISTRATION AND I MIGHT POSSIBLY DEFER TO HIM. I THINK I SEE HIM OVER THERE, SUBSTITUTING THE FINAL NUMBERS FOR THE BOND. >> THANK YOU. THE CHANGE AT THIS POINT ARE BETWEEN INTRODUCTION AND FLOOR SUBSTITUTE ARE JUST TECHNICAL CLEANUPS. WITH VARIOUS LAWYERS FOR VARIOUS PARTIES, PROVIDING INPUT. NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE CHANGED IN ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT IS PLEDGED WHICH IS STILL THE TAX. PROJECT SCOPE IS BROADLY DEFINED SUBJECT TO WHAT THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE. THESE WERE CLEANUPS OF VARIOUS PARTIES LOOKING AT ORDINANCE BETWEEN INTRODUCTION AND TODAY, NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE, MOSTLY JUST TECHNICAL CLEANUPS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT THOSE THAT WATCH. >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING ELSE? ON THE MOTION FOR THE FLOOR SUB. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK: 9-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON THE BILL AS SUBSTITUTED. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. WE ALL HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ABOUT GOING WITH THIS BOND PACKAGE. RIGHT THING TO DO AT THIS TIME. WE ARE DEPARTING FROM THE WAY WE HANDLED THE TAX IF THE PAST BY SELLING THESE BUT IT APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE FAVORABLE MARKET FOR THE CITY IN THESE BONDS AND ALSO THAT WE GET A LOT OF WORK PUT OUT ON THE STREET AND PEOPLE WORKING AND MONEY CIRCULATING IN OUR ECONOMY FROM THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, SO, ALL VERY GOOD PROJECTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT BILL URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. OF. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> O31 PASSES AS SUBSTITUTED. >> Coun. Davis: R-47. >> Coun. Benton: I MOVE DO PASS ON R-47 APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT THE THIRD PHASE OF THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE TAX AND AMENDING CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM FOR THE CITY BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS. MOVE A DO PASS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR BENTON I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AMENDMENT? >> Coun. Benton: WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT. I REALIZE AND BEG EVERYONE'S INDULGENCE THAT WE TWEAKED THIS. IT IS INTACT FROM WHERE WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE RECENT PAST WITH MINE OR CHANGES. REQUESTED BY THE COUNCILORS AND ADMINISTRATION. SO THAT IS WHAT AMENDMENT REFLECTS. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WORKING WITH ME AND TOM MENICUCCI ON THIS. HATS OFF TO TOM, A LOT OF LATE NIGHTS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND ON THE WEEKENDS SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. EVERYBODY KIND OF REALIZING THAT WE HADDEN INTENT WITH THIS BILL AND WITH THIS PACKAGE TO HELP EVERY PART OF THE CITY TO HELP IMPORTANT PROJECTS LIKE THE VISION CITY WIDE AND ALSO SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. WE ARE GIVING STRONG SUPPORT TO A REGIONAL PRIORITY WHICH IS PASEO DEL NORTE. SO, I'LL MOVE THAT -- DID I MOVE THAT AMENDMENT? I GUESS NOT. THAT IS THE AMENDMENT. IT IS RELATIVELY MINE OR CHANGES FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN PREVIOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: FOR A SECOND I SEE COUNCILOR BORREGO. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED AS FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. SEEING NONE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK: PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILLOR PENA YOU HAVE A GUEST AND AMENDMENT? >> Coun. Pena: YES, I DO. ACTUALLY, CAN SOMEONE READ IT INTO THE RECORD. I CAN'T FIND IT. I GOT DISTRACTIONED. >> Coun. Davis: ABSOLUTELY. LET ME READ THIS IN FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. SPONSORED BY COUNCILLOR PENA. PAGE 2, LINE 9 INSERT A SECTION AS FOLLOWS. SECTION 2, THAT ALL TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE TAX PROJECTS RELATED TO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE CRITERION FOR PRIORITIZATION UNDER ADA. THIS AMENDMENT REQUIRES THAT ANY TRANSPORTATION TAX IMPROVEMENT PROJECT INCLUDE ADA IMPROVEMENTS AS A PRIORITY. IS THAT WHAT YOU HAVE? >> Coun. Pena: YES, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK COUNCILLOR BENTON MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. (INAUDIBLE) LOST YOUR CONNECTION. >> Coun. Pena: I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON MENTIONED WE HAVE ISSUES WITH ADA. I MOVED SEVERAL OF THESE PROJECTS FORWARD AND SO THAT WE DON'T GET FURTHER BEHIND WE NEED TO INCLUDE THIS AS A PRIORITY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I SEE COUNCIL BORREGO, COUNCILOR SENA AND BENTON. >> Coun. Borrego: THAT WAS A SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: YOU WERE NEXT IN LINE. >> Coun. Benton: OKAY. YES, MR. PRESIDENT, ABSOLUTELY, APPRECIATE THIS AND OF COURSE WE DO HAVE ADA WORKING IN THE BILL BUT SO THIS IS NOT ALL BONDING, RIGHT? WE PASSED BOND PORTION OF IT. THE REST OF THE TAX SOME OF IT IS BONDED, SOME NOT. WE DO HAVE ADA WORK WITHIN IT. ANY NEW PROJECT OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE OR ANYTHING THAT WE TOUCH AS THE CITY WE MUST BRING UP THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT AT LEAST TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE ADA, SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE COUNCILORS ADVOCACY ON THAT. THE LAST ESTIMATE WE SAW WAS 200 MILLION. I HAVE HEARD LARGER FIGURES THAN THAT. MAYBE WE PUT A BIG DENT IN IT BUT IT IS ONGOING COMMITMENT WE HAVE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND WITH PASSAGE OF THE ADA, EVERY CITY WOULD HAVE A COMPLIANCE PLAN FOR HOW WE TACKLE IT AND WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP WORKING AT IT. I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. >> Coun. Davis: OTHER DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT NO. 2? I SEE NONE. COUNCILLOR PENA TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Pena: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK: AMENDMENT 2 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE BACK ON YOUR BILL. >> Coun. Benton: AGAIN THANKS TO TOM WHO DID ALL THE LEG WORK ON OUR ENDS AND WORKED WITH ALL THE COUNCILORS BUT ALSO THE COUNCILORS THEMSELVES AND THE ADMINISTRATION, DEFINITELY, THAT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. WE STARTED OFF IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, I THINK, AT A COUNCIL MEETING WAY BACK WHEN, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE VOTERS WHO I WANT TO THANK THEM TOO, WHO VOTED FOR THE TAX AGAIN, THE THIRD TIME, BUT, YEAH, JUST A REALLY GOOD, A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, SOMETIMES YOU START GETTING FRUSTRATED AND LET'S JUST GET IT PASSED BUT NOW I THINK THE IS A BETTER BILL FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION. SO, THANK LAWRENCE RAEL AND PAT MONTOYA FOR HELPING US WITH IT ON THE DMD SIDE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR BORREGO HAD A QUESTION. >> Coun. Borrego: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT ALSO. I WANTED TO THANK COUNCILLOR BENTON FOR SPEARHEADING THIS AND I WANTED TO THANK ADMINISTRATION ET ESPECIALLY LAWRENCE RAEL AND PAT MONTOYA. THIS SHOWED TRUE SPIRIT AND COMPATIBILITY FOR ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER AND KEEPING WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS AND THAT IS JOBS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERY COUNCILOR HAS A SHOT. >> RAEL: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY YOU'RE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THAT. >> Coun. Davis: NOT ALWAYS ARE WE THANKING YOU. >> RAEL: FIRST LET ME SAY AGAIN THIS IS A CLASSIC OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN CELEBRATE WITH EACH OTHER THAT WE WORKED TOGETHER FOR THE BETTER OF THE COMMUNITY BY LOOKING AT ALL PROJECTS, ET CETERA. WE DID HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS WITH COUNCILLOR BENTON BUT I KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF DID THEIR WORK AS WELL. SO, WE THANK THEM BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY, THE MAYOR WAS VERY COMMITTED EARLY ON TO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. A PROJECT LIKE PASEO IS REGIONAL BUT CONTINUES TO MAKE SURE THE WESTSIDE IS PART OF THE CITY AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THE MOBILITY WE HAVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER. THEN, ALL OF THE OTHER PROJECTS ON THIS LIST TOUCH ALMOST EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE CRITICAL LINKS WE NEED TO ENSURE WE KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH AND DEMANDS OF THE COMMUNITY WHETHER IT IS NORTHEAST HEIGHTS OR IN THE OLD PART OF ALBUQUERQUE, ET CETERA, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THEN LAST SHOUT OUT I WOULD SAY COUNCILORS, LOOK, WE ALSO HAVE A PIECE HERE FOR REHAB OF A TRANSIT FACILITY IN DIRE NEED OF WORK BECAUSE AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE INTO ELECTRIC BUSES OR OTHER ALTERNATIVE FUEL TYPES OF BUSES FOR TRANSIT WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER FACILITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THAT IS ALSO A GOOD PIECE IN HERE THAT IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD. ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR, THANK YOU AL ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND LET'S CONTINUE TO BUILD A BETTER ALBUQUERQUE. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE NO OTHER HANDS. COUNCILOR BENTON, ANYTHING ELSE TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Benton: SINCE I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THE MAYOR, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT HE IMMEDIATELY HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS LIST. THEY ARE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE PIPELINE ALL AROUND TOWN AND REALIZED IMPORTANCE OF AGAIN FOR THE REASONS I STATED BEFORE, OF GETTING THESE PROJECTS OUT ON THE STREETS, SO, DO I TO APPRECIATE HIM AS WELL WITH HIS LEADERSHIP ON DIAGNOSE THAT. >> URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: HAPPY TO SAY YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. CLERK: PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILORS BENTON AND GIBSON, R-68. >> Coun. Gibson: I'LL GET US STARTED. >> THANK YOU. R-68 IS URGING THE NEW MEXICO LENGTHS YOUR TO AUTHORIZE AN ELECTION ON A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO RURAL 2 SECTION 6 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. I WILL MOVE A DO PASS ON THIS. >> Coun. Benton: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION AND SECOND. >> Coun. Gibson: THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE THE BODY BEFORE BUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. ACTUALLY, IT HAS NOT. IT WAS IN COMMITTEE SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THE SHORT STORY ON THIS IS THAT IN 1986, WE DID VOTE ON THIS. IF YOU WERE A VOTER IN NEW MEXICO YOU PROBABLY SAW THIS ON THE BALLOT AND IT PASSED BACK IN 1986, 34 YEARS AGO. I THINK IT IS EASY TO SAY A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN AND FRANKLY I REALLY DON'T KNOW, I HAVE NO IDEA WHETHER THIS WOULD FALL THE SAME WAY OR WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT RESULT BUT BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SO LONG AGO BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN CHANGES, I THINK THIS IS A WORTHWHILE THING TO DO. AGAIN I'LL ADD THIS ITSELF DOESN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES. WE ARE JUST ASKING LEGISLATORS TO CONSIDER PUTTING THIS BACK UP ON THE BALLOT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: NEXT TO COUNCILLOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: I APPRECIATE IT THAT COUNCILLOR GIBSON BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IN THE PAST SO, YOU KNOW, SHE IS THE BRAINS BEHIND IT. BUT, I DO THINK IT IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING IT FORWARD ONCE AGAIN FOR THE CITY TO WEIGH IN. IT WOULD BE UP TO THE LEGISLATURE HOW THEY CRAFT ANY PROPOSITION TO THE VOTERS BUT I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THE VOTERS TO SPEAK AND TIME FOR ALBUQUERQUE TO MAKE ITS CASE AS OUR LARGEST, OUR ONLY REALLY BIG CITY, AND AREA THAT IS WIDELY RECOGNIZED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE TOP CONTRIBUTOR TO THE GUN VIOLENCE IS OUR REGION. SO, WE SEE THE STORIES EVERYDAY AND SO MANY OF THESE WEAPONS ARE ILLEGAL AND DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT. THEY ARE ILLEGAL, STOLEN WEAPONS AND AS THE MAJOR METROPOLITAN URBAN CENTER OF THE STATE, I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AND MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME CUT OFF POINT. I THINK IT IS FINE FOR THE SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES AND SO FORTH TO JUST KIND OF GO ALONG WITH THE STATE-WIDE RULES BUT WE HAVE REALLY GOT A DIFFERENT ANIMAL HERE AND THIS WOULD BE JUST -- I WOULD TRUST VOTERS ON IT. YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE LEGISLATURE WOULD AGREE TO PUT THIS FORWARD AND WE WOULD ALL SIT BACK AND TRUST VOTERS ON IT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Jones: I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A GREAT PASSION FOR THIS ON BOTH SIDES AND COUNCILLOR BENTON SAID IT ALL WHEN HE SAID WE NEED TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE ARE THE CAPITAL OF THE STATE FOR CRIME USING ILLEGAL WEAPONS. WE ARE TALKING ILLEGAL WEAPONS AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACQUIRING AND STEALING WEAPONS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW ANY LEGISLATION FOR STATING THAT WE CITIZENS CANNOT BEAR ARMS OR WHATEVER IT THAT IS THE STATE WILL END UP DOING. WE HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT FEELS GOOD AND WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF CRIME AND IT IS TERRIBLE BUT IT IS NOT LAW BIDING PEOPLE CAUSING THE PROBLEMS. TO PASS LAWS OR ENCOURAGE LAWS TO BE PASSED THAT RESTRICT THE LAW BIDING PEOPLE SEEMS TO BE WRONG TO ME. WEAPONS ARE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. WE HAD VERY LITTLE CRIME BUT WE ALSO HAD VELARDE LITTLE STEALING VERY LITTLE STEALING OF WEAPONS. IT IS NOT THE GOOD GUY CAUSING THE SHAME, SHOULD WE NOT, THEY, THE GOOD GUY BE ALLOWED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. THIS IS A REVERSE LOGIC IN MY OPINION. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. SO, I MEAN, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH COUNCILOR JONES BUT THINK THAT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR BENTON ON THIS. I MEAN, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CRIME IS A PROBLEM. WE ARE ALL QUITE AWARE OF THAT BUT RATHER THAN TRY TO ENCOURAGE THE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL THIS LAW, HOW ABOUT WE WORK ON SOMETHING THAT IS DIRECTED MORE TOWARDS CREATING LAWS THAT ARE AMPED TOWARDSCRIME THAT IS HAPPENING AND CRIMINALS CAUSING THOSE RATHER THAN RESTRICTING. I WORRY ABOUT THE MESSAGE THAT IT SEND TO THE LEGISLATURE ON THE INTENT IF WE DO PASS IT. LASTLY, SO, JUST TO CLARIFY, I AM HAPPY TO WORK ON SOME KIND OF LAWS AND LEGISLATION THAT WE CAN AGREE ON THAT WILL WORK TOWARDS REDUCING CRIME AND WORK TOWARDS CREATING MORE ENFORCEMENT TOWARDS THOSE CAUSING CRIME AND BREAKING LAWS. LASTLY I WANT TO POINT OUT I SAW HUNDREDS OF EMAILS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THIS LEGISLATION. I DID SEE THAT A LOT OF IT WAS DIRECTED ONLY AT ME PERSONALLY AS A COUNCILOR AND THEN I SAW MANY, MAJORITY OF THEM, DIRECTED TOWARDS THE FULL COUNCIL AND OUT OF ALL OF THOSE I CAN SAY I REALLY DON'T RECALL READING ONE OF THEM BECAUSE I DID INDEED READ THROUGH OR MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALL DUPLICATES AND REALIZED THEY WERE ALL FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND WHATNOT, BUT DID I NOT READ ONE THAT ENCOURAGED THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT IT IS OUR JOB AS COUNCILORS TO DID THE WILL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS WHETHER WE AGREE OR NOT. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS KNOWING MAJORITY IF NOT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT REACHED OUT VIA EMAIL WERE IN DISCOURAGEMENT OF THIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I HOPE WE DO NOT PASS THIS. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE ALL MAKING REALLY GREAT POINTS. IT IS REALLY WAR THAT IMPORTANE ADDRESS ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME AND ALSO TO KNOW WHAT THE INTENT OF THE SPONSORS IS AS WELL STATING THAT OUR LEGISLATURE MAY POSSIBLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AT THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. BUT, EVEN AT THAT, THIS RESOLUTION IS SIMPLY ASKING THEM TO DO THAT, IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD PUT THIS VOTE FORWARD ON OUR BALLOT AT THIS MOMENT. I KNOW THAT A LOT OF MINE OWN CONSTITUENTS KIND OF HAD RESERVATIONS THAT THIS RESOLUTION SOMEHOW WOULD MAKE THAT VOTE OCCUR BUT AGAIN IT IS JUST URGING LEGISLATION TO TAKE EVALUATION OF THIS AND POSSIBLY PUT FORTH A QUESTION THAT WOULD PUT IT ON THE BALLOT TO PUT IT TO A VOTE TO AMEND OUR CONSTITUTION. I WANT TO REALLY STRESS THAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION AS TO WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES. IT IS JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND AT ANOTHER TIME WHETHER IT IS DISCUSSION OF THE ROUNDHOUSE OR NOT, BUT THIS IS SIMPLY URGING THEM TO LOOK AT IT AND GIVE IT CONSIDERATION. SO, I JUST WANT TO INFORM OUR CONSTITUENTS, IT HAS BEEN SAID BY THE SPONSORS, BUT, PARTICULARLY MINE THAT REACHED OUT IN CONCERN, THAT THIS IS PUTTING IT FORWARD TO A VOTE IT IS SIMPLY URGING OUR LEGISLATURE TO TAKE AN EVALUATION. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. I SEE ARGUMENT ON BOTH SIDES. I HAD QUITE A FEW AS COUNCILOR BASSAN MENTIONED, I HAD QUITE A FEW EMPLOYEES ET CETERA AND THERE EMAILS AND SOME WERE DUPLICATES. I WAS LOOKING FOR MY CONSTITUENCY AND MANY OF THE EMAILS WERE NOT SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION. YOU KNOW HAVING GROWN UP IN NEW MEXICO ALL MY LIFE AND HAVING GROWN UP AROUND GUNS ALL MY LIFE, AND BEING A GUN OWNER, RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER MYSELF, WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION FOR A REASON AND I THINK THIS FURTHER RESTRICTS THAT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT WE HAVE. SO, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS LEGISLATION. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT, BEFORE WE RETURN TO THE SPONSORS, LET ME JUST ADD MY TWO CENTS HERE. I DON'T EXPECT WE WILL CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND ON THIS. WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AS COUNCILLOR GIBSON MENTIONED. SHE HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF GUN SAFETY AND GUN VIOLENCE IN ALBUQUERQUE IN TERMS OF REFORM BEFORE. AND HAS CLIMBED THAT HILL A NUMBER OF TIMES. LET ME JUST SAY, WE HAVE ALL RECEIVED THOSE EMAILS AND IT REALLY DOES DEPENDS WHO IN-BOX YOUR READING. I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE PICKED COUNCILORS THEY THOUGHT WERE LIKELY TO BE RECEPTIVE BUT I WAS STRUCK AT SOME POINT WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE MESSAGES SOUNDED SO SIMILAR FROM ONES I HEARD DURING THE LEGISLATURE THAT SAID CITIES AND COUNTIES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THE DECISIONS. I WAS REMINDED THAT IS EXACTLY THE MESSAGE THAT THOSE VERY SAME PROPONENTS USED WHEN THEY SAID LENGTHS YOUR CAN'T PASS RED FLAG LAWS WE NEED OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES PASS SANCTUARY LAWS. WE WANTED CITIES AND COUNTIES TO INVALIDATE STATE OR THE ORDINANCES. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY THIS RESOLUTION IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT DOES EXPRESS INTENT OF THE ENTIRE CITY OR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT IS THE VOICE OF THE CITY THE WAY WE REPRESENT OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSTITUENCIES AND THIS IS A PROBLEM, GUN VIOLENCE IS AN ISSUE. I AM NOT CONCERNED THAT SIMPLY PASSING THIS WOULD OPEN THE DOOR, FOR EXAMPLE, TO UNDOING ALL THOSE PROTECTIONS. I DO THINK THE BEST LAWERS STATE-WIDE BUT CITIES LIKE ALBUQUERQUE HAVE SPECIAL PROBLEMS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO US AND WE NEED SPECIAL TOOLS AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE PROPOSALS COMING. I THANK SPONSORS FOR THIS. I HOPE THE LEGISLATURE IN THEIR WISDOM SHOULD WE PASS THIS TONIGHT WOULD GIVE THIS SERIOUS CONSIDERATION AND GIVE VOTERS OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE HOW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. WE STILL IN ALBUQUERQUE HAVE TO GIVE OUR VOTERS A CHANCE TO DECIDE. THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I WILL RETURN TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Gibson: IF I MAY, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU. I AGREE. I DON'T EXPECT TO CHANGE 95 YOUR MINDS NO MATTER WHERE CHANGE 95 YOUR MINDS. I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THESE. PREEMPTIVE LAWS FOR FIREARMS IS NEW, ACTUALLY. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG. 1980, FOR ME THAT IS NOT VERY LONG. 40 YEARS AGO. BEFORE THAT, TOWNS AND CITIES, THROUGHOUT THE U.S., DID CHOOSE TO HAVE LAWS ON THEIR BOOKS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUT THEY WERE ABOUT FIREARMS IN MUNICIPALITIES. IN 1980 THINGS CHANGED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT FRONT. THEN, NEW MEXICO WAS RIGHT IN LINE, SIX YEARS LATER PUT IT ON THE BAT OLYMPICS AND BALLOTR IT. I MAY HAVE VOTED FOR IT. I DON'T REMEMBER. I AM NOT ANTI-GUN PERSON. WE HAVE HUNTERS AND MY DAD WAS MILITARY AND HIS BROTHERS. IT IS NOT THAT I HAVE ANY PERSONAL VENDETTA ABOUT GUNS AT ALL. I HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME EMAIL THAT PROBABLY WE HAVE ALL GOTTEN, AND DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY SATISFACTION AT ALL -- THAT IS THE WRONG WORD -- IT BOTHERED ME THAT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THIS RESOLUTION SAID. AND MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THIS WAS GOING TO RIP THE RIGHTS RIGHT OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM. THIS DOES NOT ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL THE CURRENT LAW. WE JUST WANT SOMEONE TO LOOK AT IT. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE BALLOT AND HAVE ANOTHER VOTE ON IT. IF IT PASSES, IT STAYS THE SAME AND SOBEIT. THERE IS ONE OTHER THING. THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN STATES THAT HAVE PREEMPTIVE LAWS AND THEY RUN THE GAMUT OF BEING FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY GENERALIZED TO BEING VERY PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN THAT AND GUN TRAFFICKING. ILLEGAL TRADE OF GUNS. SO, WITH THOSE COMMENTS I COULD TALK MORE BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO -- I DON'T HAVE ANY HOPES THAT I AM GOING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S MIND BUT THAT IS INFORMATION THAT IS USEFUL. >> Coun. Benton: JUST QUICKLY, AGAIN, ACTUALLY 1986 COUNCILLOR GIBSON SO IT IS ONLY, YEAH, ONLY 34 YEARS. THAT IS YESTERDAY. BUT, RELATIVELY SHORT TIME, RIGHT? AND PRIOR TO THAT ABOVE GROUND AS YOU STATED, MUNICIPALITIES HAD AUTHORITY TO ENACT THEIR OWN LAWS. WITH REGARD TO GOOD GUYS, BAD GUYS QUESTION I DID POINT OUT A LOT OF GUNS ARE STOLEN. THAT EXACTLY WAS MEANT TO ILLUSTRATE THE FACT THAT LAWFUL GUN OWNERS DON'T NECESSARILY PROTECTS THEIR GUNS VERY WELL AND LAWFUL GUN OWNERS HAVE THEIR WEAPONS TAKEN WITHOUT PERMISSION BY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO COMMIT CRIMES OR SUICIDE. SO THERE IS A LOT OF FACTORS HERE. THIS WAS IN 1986, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DETAILS WERE, WHEN THAT WAS PUT FORTH AND WHAT INTERESTS WERE OF THOSE WHO PUT IT FORTH BUT THE VOTERS STATE-WIDE DID SUPPORT IT. AND AS OFTENTIMES WE SEE STATE-WIDE VOTES GO AGAINST ALBUQUERQUE'S LAY FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW. BUT, I TEND TO BE GENEROUS WHEN IT DOESN'T GO OUR WAY AND THINK THAT AND SAY IS THAT WE ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD AS A MAJOR METRO AREA. WE ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD IS THAT WELL BY SOME OTHERS IN THE STATE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T LIVE HERE. THEY DON'T DEAL WITH IT EVERYDAY. THEY DON'T HEAR THE GUNSHOTS ALL NIGHT LONG SOME OF WHICH BY THE WAY IS, YOU KNOW, NO ILL INTENT OF PEOPLE SHOOTING OFF GUNS FOR THE HECK OF IT. SO, I DO REJECT ARGUMENT THAT, WELL, GOOD GUYS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG AND IT IS ALL CRIMINALS ALL WE NEED TO DO IS CATCH THEM. THE MORE GUYS THAT ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT REGULATIONS AS TO THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF A GUN OWNER, AND I AM A FUN 51 OWNER, TOO. MY FAMILY GOES BACK GENERATIONS OF GUN OWNING AS WELL, BUT, I AM PROBABLY THE FIRST LIFE LONG URBAN DWELLER IN MY FAMILY. MAYBE THAT GIVES ME A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND I THANK COUNCILLOR GIBSON FOR BRINGING THIS BACK. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON FOR-5 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP, COUNCILORS PENA, BORREGO AND SENA FOR R-75. >> Coun. Borrego: THIS IS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE AND WHAT IT IS DOING IS STRENGTHENING AND REAFFIRMING THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING RACIAL AND SOCIAL INEQUITY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, MS. MELENDRES. I THINK SHE IS PRESENT IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS. SO, I WOULD MOVE FOR THIS BILL TO PASS. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR S ENA SECONDS. >> WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR. COUNCILOR BORREGO. AMENDMENT. YOU WANT TO MOVE IT FIRST? >> Coun. Borrego: DO I HAVE AMENDMENT. LET ME PULL IT UP ON MY I PAD. >> Coun. Davis: MS. ORTEGA HAS IT IN FRONT OF HER. >> Coun. Borrego: I WOULD LOVE IF SHE WOULD READ IT. >> ORTEGA: ITEM 1, PAGE 6, LINE 25 STRIKE THE LANGUAGE SECTION 8 EACH DEPARTMENT SHALL IDENTIFY AND END QUOTES, 2, PAGE 6, STRIKE LINES 26 THROUGH 28 AND EXPLANATION READS THIS AMENDMENT REMOVES LANGUAGE THAT WAS ERRONEOUSLY LEFT IN DURING PROCESS OF EDITING. >> Coun. Borrego: IT IS MERELY A SIMPLE AMENDMENT. WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WE HAD INADVERTENTLY LEFT OLD LANGUAGE IN DURING THE ADOPTION -- DURING EDITING SO THAT IS ALL IT IS. I MOVE THAT AMENDMENT NO. 1. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL DO THE SECOND. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ON FLOOR AMENDMENTS NO. 1, MS. ORTEGA. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 1 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >> Coun. Davis: BACK TO THE SPONSORS ON THE BILL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION USE YOUR HAND RAISE. SPONSORS I SEE COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS A QUESTION. WE'LL GO TO SPONSORS AND QUESTIONS AND COME BACK TO THE SPONSORS. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. I AM WONDERING AND I HAVE QUESTIONS EARLIER. I WASN'T SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE FINAL ANSWER WAS, TO CLARIFY AND I DON'T KNOW IF I AM READING IT A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS IN MY OWN HEAD OR NOT, PAGE 3 LINE 8, 10 AND 12 IT REFERENCES BELOW 200% OF THE POVERTY LINE. I AM NOT SURE IF IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BELOW 200% OR 200% BELOW. WHEN I AM READING IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE 200% BELOW. >> Coun. Borrego: I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS CORRECT. WE COULD PROPOSE AMENDMENT TO THAT. >> Councilor Bassan: IF THAT IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ONE. I DID GET CLARIFICATION. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE CAN CLARIFY IF THIS CAN BE ADMINISTRATIVE CORRECTION. >> Coun. Davis: THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT. >> YARA: THANK YOU. WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE THAT AS A CLERK'S CORRECTION. WE JUST NEED TO UNTRANSPOSE THAT LANGUAGE BELOW AND 200% WHERE IT APPEARS ON LINE 8, LINE 10 AND LINE 12; IS THAT CORRECT. >> Councilor Bassan: THERE IS A WHAT I SAW, YES. THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ON PAGE 5 SECTION 5 WHERE IT SAYS THE CITY SHALL PREPARE YOUTH AND WORKERS OF COLOR FOR TOMORROW'S JOB BY GROWING LOCAL TALENTED FOR EDUCATION AND WORKFORCE STRATEGIES THAT EQUIP YOUTH AND WITH SKILLS AND POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION, ET CETERA. I THINK I AM READING THIS WITH INTENT THAT WE ARE SETTING PEOPLE UP FOR SUCCESS BUT WHEN I READ IT SEVERAL TIMES I AM WONDERING IF THAT COULD ENDS UP BEING READ BY SOMEBODY AS INTERPRETING THAT WE ARE GOING TO (INAUDIBLE). I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT WHAT IS A POSSIBILITY FOR WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PASS TONIGHT. >> Coun. Borrego: IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE WENT TO MR. MELENDRES OR ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS TO DISCUSS THAT. >> MICHELLE: THANK YOU. ON THE ISSUE OF PAGE 3, UNDER 200% OF POVERTY THAT IS NOT A MISTAKE. THAT IS A CENSUS DERIVED FIGURE AND THAT IS A COMMON WAY OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET BECAUSE LIVING ALTA MIRA POVERTY LEVEL IS NOT . PAGE 5, THE INTENTION WAS NOT TO PUT PEOPLE THROUGH POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION. >> Councilor Bassan: I WONDERED IF THAT MIGHT BE KIND OF A LEGAL TERM WITH CENSUS. I SEE THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CORRECTED. INTENT IS NOT THERE, I WORRY THAT PEOPLE COULD READ IT AND TURN THAT AROUND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LEGALLY PEOPLE CAN'T SAY IF WE PASS THIS IT IS WRITTEN HERE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EQUIPPING THEM WITH SKILLS AND POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION OR CREDENTIAL THAT THAT MEANS WE ARE GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR PAYING FOR THAT. >> Coun. Borrego: I WONDER IF SAMANTHA WANTS TO COMMENT ON THAT. >> SAMANTHA: THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IF WE ARE READING THIS THAT IS NOT INTENT HERE. I THINK ALSO THE SPONSORS MAKING CLEAR ON THE RECORD SHOWS THEIR LEGISLATIVE INTENT AND ANYBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED HERE TODAY, THAT THAT IS NOT INTENT OF THIS LANGUAGE HERE. >> Councilor Bassan: IS THERE A WAY MAYBE SPONSORS WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER A FRIENDLY AMEND OF SAYING ENCOURAGED POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION? >> Coun. Borrego: THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER SPONSORS FEEL. >> Coun. Pena: I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CHANGE IS, I GUESS, MY QUESTION WOULD BE. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE COUNCILOR SENA NODDING. >> ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT AS AMENDMENT OR JUST SUGGESTING IT IS LIKE A CLERK SAID -- >> Councilor Bassan: I AM WILLING TO DO EITHER ONE. REREADING IT SEVERAL TIMES IT SAYS THAT WE WILL WORKFORCE STRATEGIES AND EQUIP YOUTH AND WORKERS WITH SKILLS AND POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION OR CREDENTIALS NEEDED FOR CAREERS. I AM WORRIED EQUIP MEANS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELD LIABLE TO PAY FOR THAT SECONDARY EDUCATION RATHER THAN ENCOURAGE IT, EQUIP THEM WITH THE ASSISTANCE WITH APPLICATIONS AND ASSISTANCE WITH AGAINING THIS EDUCATION BUT NOT EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE ACTUAL EDUCATION. >> Coun. Pena: CAN I ASK MR. MELENDRES TO CHIME IN ON THIS. >> MELENDRES: I THINK INTENT SHOULD BE CLEAR IN THE BILL. I DON'T KNOW IF WE ELICITED INTENT OF WHAT THE SPONSORS WERE WANTING BUT I THINK THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN BROUGHT UP A REASONABLE POINT ABOUT WHAT INTENT IS. IF IT IS ABSOLUTE INTEREST IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN, THEN PERHAPS THE LANGUAGE REMAINS BUT IF THERE IS ANY UNCERTAINTY AS TO WHAT INTENT IS, IF INTENT IS MORE LIKELY TO BE, I THINK, TO PROMOTE THOSE THINGS WHICH THE CITY IS GOOD AT OR HELP ENSURE THOSE HAPPEN, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN ADDING THAT FOR CLARIFICATION WITHIN THE BILL. >> Coun. Davis: ANYTHING FOR THAT OR LEAVE THAT THERE. ARE YOU MAKING THAT MOTION. IF YOU'RE NOT I AM MOVING TO COUNCILLOR HARRIS. >> Councilor Bassan: CAN YOU MOVE TO COUNCILLOR HARRIS. THIS CAUGHT MY EYE AND REREADING IT, THE QUESTION REMAINS. EVEN THOUGH I REALIZE INTENT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY FOR FUTURE REFERENCE WITHOUT GOING BACK TO JUST SEEK THE RECORD AS A VERIFICATION PROCESS WHEN WE COULD JUST MAKE IT MORE FINE TUNED NOW. >> Coun. Davis: WAS THAT A MOTION? WE'LL KEEP THAT IN THE PARKING LOT. AND COME BACK IF WE NEED TO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. I SUPPORT ACTUALLY LIKE TO SAY ENCOURAGE BUT NOT FUND. BECAUSE, I DISAGREE WITH SPEAKER SAID THAT YOU CAN PLAY THIS TAPE AS A LAWYER AND MR. MELENDRES CAN TALK ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE NEW MEXICO CASES THAT COME VERY CLOSE TO SAYING THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LEGISLATIVE HISTORY IN NEW MEXICO. THE WORDS IN THE STATUTE, I MEAN -- >> MELENDRES: I DO THINK IT IS WISE TO MAKE SURE BILL IS ACCURATE AS TO THE INTENT. CITY HAS IN FACT DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE IN LITIGATION BEFORE ABOUT LANGUAGE THAT SUGGESTED THE CITY WAS TAKING ON A DUTY THAT IT DIDN'T FULLY INTEND TO TAKE ON BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE WAS ABSOLUTE AS OPPOSED TO INDICATING AN INTENT TO DO SOMETHING. SO, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. IF THE SPONSORS WANT TO CLARIFY THAT INTENT OR IF THE BILL REFLECTS INTENT OF THE SPONSORS THE BILL IS FINE. IF THERE IS A QUESTION AS TO WHAT THAT INTENT IS, IT COULD BE FINE TUNED A BIT. >> OTHER DISCUSSION. I SAW COUNCILOR PENA. AND COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Pena: SO, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE CO-SPONSORS AS WELL BUT I THINK LEGISLATION IS FINE. THIS ISN'T ANY NEW REGULATION OR POLICY. WE ARE KIND OF JUST REITERATING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUT IT IS ESTABLISHING SOME DIRECTION. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AND I MEAN IT IS PART OF CITY POLICY IF WE'RE TRYING TO YOU KNOW HEAD IN THIS DIRECTION, I DON'T THINK THAT IT IMPLIES BASED ON JUST INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION, ITS DID NOT IMPLY WE WILL BE DIRECTING OR SHOULDN'T SAY DIRECTING, THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN POLICY. >> Coun. Davis: IF WE NEED THE LANGUAGE MS. ORTEGA DRAFTED IT SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT. >> Coun. Borrego: I THINK IT IS A MATTER OF SEMANTICS AND IT IS SIMPLE. WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT I THINK WHAT COUNCILOR BASSAN IS SAYING INSTEAD OF USING WORD WILL, WE ENCOURAGE AND I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T HOLD THE CITY SORT OF HOSTAGE TO DO THOSE THINGS. IF WE CHANGE THE WORD WILL TO ENCOURAGE, IT ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING. BUT IT DOESN'T HOLD US SORT OF HOSTAGE DOWN THE LINE IN A COURT OF LAW. I WANT TO GO BACK TO AMENDMENT NO. 1. WHEN I FINAL WILL YOU PULLED UP I PAD AND LOOKED AT AMENDMENT WHEN WE DRAFTED IT WE STRUCK OUT TOO MUCH OF THE LANGUAGE. WE WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO STRIKEOUT SECTION 8 THIS THAT AMENDMENT THAT WE PASSED. WE NMED TO GO BACK TO THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS. TO ONLY STRIKEOUT SECTION 8, NOT ENTIRE PHRASE. THERE IS TWO THINGS THERE. MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THAT ALL PART OF THE AMENDMENT ONE. >> Coun. Davis: YES, I HEAR YOU COUNCILOR BORREGO. MS. ORTEGA AND YARA ARE KICKING AROUND IDEAS. CAN WE GO TO COUNCILOR ABOUT A SAN ON THIS SAME POINT COUNCIL. >> Councilor Bassan: I WAS GOING TO SAY I AM WILLING TO COMBINE AMENDMENTS BUT I THINK THAT UNLESS MS. ORTEGA AND YARA ARE DRAFTING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THIS, PAGE 6, LINE 1, INSERT AFTER THE WORD WHERE IT SAYS EQUIP, USE AND WORKERS WITH SKILLS AND ENCOURAGE BUT NOT FUND POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION. >> Coun. Davis: YOU'RE ON THE SAME MIND LENGTH. >> Councilor Bassan: I'LL EITHER MAKE IT AS A MOTION OR COMBINE IT. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. TO KEEP US ON TRACK. WE HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2? DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: OTHER DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. EXCELLENT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. AMENDMENT 2 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. IF I MAY, COUNCILOR BORREGO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION OF YOUR PREVIOUS -- >> Coun. Borrego: MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO ONLY STRIKE -- ORTEGA. F WE COULD FAIRS TAKE A VOTE FOR THE RECONSIDERATION MOTION AND THEN WE GO TO THE AMENDMENT AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THAT CHANGED. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION FROM COUNCILOR BORREGO. SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. NOW WE ARE BACK ON COUNCILOR BORREGO. >> Coun. Borrego: CLARIFY THE AMENDMENT ONLY STRIKE SECTION 8 ON PAGE 6, LINE 25. THAT IS MY MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR SENA HAS SOMETHING AND WE ARE HEARING YOU COUNCILOR HARRIS. >> Coun. Sena: SECTION 8 IS REPEATED TWICE. SECTION 8 IS REFERENCED TWICE, I THINK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT WE JUST WANTED TO STRIKEOUT THAT PHRASE, SECTION 8 AND NOT STRIKEOUT THE WHOLE SECTION. >> Coun. Davis: WE ARE GOING TO READ IT BACK TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1. MS. ORTEGA, WOULD YOU RESTATE THAT FOR US OR MS. YARA AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THAT FORWARD AND BACK ON THE BILL. >> ORTEGA: PAGE 6 LINE 25 STRIKE SECTION 8 AND WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT IN ENTIRETY JUST THE WORDS SECTION 8. >> Coun. Davis: I SEE YOU NODDING. WE ARE OKAY. >> Councilor Bassan: I WANT TO MAKE SURE SO IT IS GOING TO READ THE BASED ON THE DATA ANALYSIS AND THEN EACH DEPARTMENT SHALL IDENTIFY -- THANK YOU. I AM READY TO ROCK. THANKS. >> Coun. Davis: LAST CALL, ANYTHING ELSE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 1 AS RECONSIDERED. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> 9-0. >> Coun. Davis: BACK ON FLOOR SUBR-75 AS TWICE AMENDED. SO I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR FRESH START ON DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR SENA. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK MY TWO COSPONSORS AND DIRECTOR, MICHELLE FOR WORKING ON THIS AS WELL AS ATTORNEYS. BOTH SAMANTHA FOR REALLY TAKING A STAB AT THIS AND TRYING TO MAKE AN EVALUATION OF HOW WE PASS POLICIES IN A MORE EQUITABLE WAY TO REALLY EVALUATE SOME OF THE DISPARITIES AND BARRIERS THAT ARE THERE FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE POLICIES WITH REFLECTION OF THAT AND TRYING TO MITIGATE THOSE DISPARITIES AND BARRIERS. I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM REALLY FOR TAKING A STAB AT THIS AND I KNOW WORKING ACROSS COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE AS WELL. I THINK THAT WE HAVE STATED BEFORE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP AMONG MANY BUT IT IS TOWARDS A MORE EQUITABLE ALBUQUERQUE AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU COUNCILOR PENA AND BORREGO AND DIRECTORS AS WELL. >> Coun. Davis: I HAVE COUNCILOR PENA. I WANT TO GIVE COUNCILOR PENA, AND ADMINISTRATION A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN. WE GOT A TECHNICAL INPUT FROM THEM EARLIER. >> Coun. Pena: GO TO ADMINISTRATION FIRST. >> NAIR: THANK YOU. I WOULD DEFER TO DIRECTOR SANCHEZ WHO IS IN THE BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE PARTNERING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS. MAYOR KELLER ESTABLISHED THIS TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS AGO AND WE ARE ONE OF ABOUT 100 CITIES WORKING ON EQUITY BUT NOT MANY HAVE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING BOTH CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR WHO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF WORK THAT IT TAKES TO DEVELOP EQUITY IN THE CITY AND SO WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK ACROSS THE COUNTRY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT ALBUQUERQUE AS A LEADER BECAUSE WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN A CITY THAT IS MAJORITY MINORITY SO-CALLED AND WE HAVE THAT VERY COMPLEX RACIAL HISTORY BUT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING TO BUILD UPON AND THAT IS OUR VERY BELOVED COMMUNITY THAT KNOWS WHAT IT TAKES TO REALLY CREATE THE KIND OF INCLUSIVITY WE WANT IN OUR CITY. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT THIS LEVEL WITH YOU AND THROUGH THIS BILL. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. IT IS UNIQUE. THESE SPONSORS LED US DOWN THAT WAY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US DO THAT. I WANTED TO BE SURE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I TOO WANT TO JUST THANK -- CAN YOU HEAR ME -- YES. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS AND THANK CHRIS FROM CITY COUNCIL STAFF WHO HELPED WITH THIS. MICHELLE, SAMANTHA, YOU KNOW, AND MICHELLE, YOU JUST DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB IN THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE MAYOR. I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES THERE IS SOME ISSUES IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND HIS WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT THESE ISSUES. I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IN THE OFFICE FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK THE WAY OUR CITY IS MOVING FORWARD CURRENTLY IS REALLY A RAY OF SUNSHINE TO ME AND IT PLEASES ME, FEELS LIKE ALL THE WORK AND ADVOCACY FOR SO MANY YEARS IS STARTING TO COME TO FRUITION. I APPRECIATE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHO SUPPORT THIS. IT IS REALLY TIME TO MAKE SURE OUR VOICES ARE HEARD AND THAT ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING AS A CITY IN TERMS OF INSTITUTIONAL AND RACIAL INEQUALITY THAT WE BEGIN TO ADDRESS IT AT HOME FIRST AND THEN BE A MODEL AND EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AND NATION. THANK YOU AND URGE THE COUNCIL SUPPORT. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY TO THE CO-SPONSORS AND TO MICHELLE AND CHRIS PROBABLY NO RELATION, AND TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SOME TIME NOW. I THINK WE STARTED THIS SUMMER AND FINALLY GOT TO THIS POINT. WHAT THIS BILL DOES, JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW, IS IT CREATES -- IT STARTS TO ADDRESS SYSTEMATIC RACISM AND IF WE DON'T START INTERNALLY WITHIN OUR OWN CITY WITHIN CITY HALL, THEN WE DON'T REALLY IS A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM TO TALK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT, IT STARTS TO ADDRESS EQUITY TRAINING FOR DIRECTORS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS GREAT TO WORK FOR ESPECIALLY ISAAC PADILLA AND CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT, SAMANTHA AND THERE WERE OTHER ATTORNEYS AND I CAN'T THINK OF THEIR NAME RIGHT NOW AND EVEN ALL ASSISTANTS WERE GREAT BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THESE BILLS AND TRYING TO GET THE JUST AND SPIRIT OF WHAT OUR INTENT WAS AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB DOING IT. ALSO IT ADDRESSES THINGS LIKE OUR DECISION MAKING AND BUDGETING AND MINORITY BUSINESSES AND QUITE YOUTH AND HOUSING AND IT DOES EXCLUDE SOME OF APD FOR THE CASA. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO MAKE THE CITY MORE EQUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY AND BE TRANSPARENT IN OUR DECISIONS WHEN IT COMES TO EQUITY DECISIONS. I KNOW COUNCILLOR PENA HAS SOME UPCOMING BILLS THAT WILL FURTHER ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. I WANT TO ALSO THANK JEFF BECAUSE HE DID OUTSTANDING JOB LISTENING TO US AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. SO, WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK THAT THIS WILL CREATE A HEALTHIER CITY FOR ALL OF US. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION WE'LL ASK THE COUNCIL CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES BUT I WOULD BE REMISS TO NOT CHANGE JEFF AS WELL. SO, SORRY JEFF. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> CLERK: PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS TWICE AMENDED AND SUBSTITUTED. >> Coun. Davis: CONGRATULATION S TO SPONSORS. COUNCILLOR PENA I BELIEVE YOUR NEXT. >> Coun. Pena: I DON'T KNOW WAY DID ALL MY PAPERWORK. I AM SHUFFLING PAPERS AROUND HERE. >> Coun. Davis: THE COMMUNITY PROCESS. >> Coun. Borrego: I WANTED TO ALSO KNOWLEDGE THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL AGREED TO EQUITY TRAINING INTERNALLY. I THINK THAT IS A TRUE, YOU KNOW, STEP FOR LEADERSHIP FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU COUNCILLOR PENA FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. BACK ON YOUR BILL. >> Coun. Pena: R-80 IS ESTABLISHING A COMMUNITY BASED PRACTICE TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THE LA JORNADA INSTALLATION. >> Coun. Borrego: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOUR BILL OR GO TO DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Pena: YOU KNOW THIS IS REALLY JUST ESTABLISHING A PROCESS. RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY AS I STATED AT THE LAST MEETING WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET IT FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION IS THAT WE REALLY -- I HAVE SEEN THE POLL CONDUCTED AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. OUR HISTORY IS OUR HISTORY AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ACTIONS THAT LED UP TO WHY WE ARE AT NOW ARE KIND OF VERY UNFORTUNATE ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY WAS SERIOUSLY HURT AS A RESULT OF THIS. BUT I THINK THAT JUST DOING THIS IN THIS FASHION IS IMPORTANT. WE DO LEAVE IT UP TO THE MAYOR TO MAKE THE DECISION. I JUST BELIEVE THAT THIS BODY WHO REPRESENTS NINE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ART BECAUSE WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT LA JORNADA, ONCE WE OPEN THE FLOOD GATES THERE ARE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SEVERAL PIECES OF ART WE HAVE IN THE CITY THAT MAYBE HAVE QUESTION OR DON'T OR WHERE THEY SHOULD BE OR SHOULD THEY BE PART OF THE PUBLIC ART COLLECTION. I JUST THINK THAT THIS PROCESS IS THE BEST PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: IF IT IS OKAY I THINK WE'LL GO TO ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I SEE DIRECTOR SANCHEZ IS HERE AND PERHAPS CAN GIVE PERSPECTIVE UNLESS MS. NAIR WANTS TO DO IT. TO ADMINISTRATION WHOMEVER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP. >> NAIR: APOLOGIZE TO TELE PORTING AHEAD. MS. SANCHEZ IS BEST FOR THIS. THANK YOU. >> SANCHEZ: THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING THIS AND REALLY BEING BEHIND A COMMUNITY CENTERED PROCESS, COMMUNITY DIALOGUE TO REALLY DIG INTO THE NEXT STEP FOR LA JORNADA INSTALLATION. I THINK WE ALL REALLY VALUE EVEN IN THE BILL WE TALKED ABOUT, WE ALL VALUE INCLUSION AND EQUITY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON FROM CULTURAL SERVICES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION ARE BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND COMMUNITY DIALOGUE. TALKING TO EACH OTHER AND GENERATING SOLUTIONS THROUGH THAT DIALOGUE. I THINK THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS. WE COULD SOLVE PROBLEMS THROUGH A POLL BUT I THINK THESE ISSUES A LOT MORE COMPLEX AND IMPORTANT TO US THAN INFORMATION WE CAN GET IN A SINGLE POLL. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT TO REALLY EMBRACE A COMMUNITY CENTERED DIALOGUE AND INVITE PEOPLE IN. AT THIS POINT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY SIGN UP AND PARTICIPATE AND SO FAR WE HAVE HAD 200 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY DIALOGUE, WHICH IS A LOT. WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THREE DIALOGUE SESSIONS AND 200 PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THAT SO FAR. 200 HAVE PARTICIPATED IN SESSION 1, 50 OF THOSE CONTINUED ON ALREADY AND FINISHED SESSION 2 AND STARTING SESSION 3. WE DO HAVE OTHER ADDITIONAL WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY INPUT BUT THIS IDEA OF COMING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS WITH EACH OTHER AND MOVE FORWARD TO SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD THEN BE PROPOSED BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK, IS REALLY POWERFUL. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. SEEING NO OTHER COUNCILORS WHO HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND. I WANT TO ASK A BRIEF QUESTION AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT YOU STARTED. I THINK THIS IS GREAT. HAVING THIS PROCESS. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING ORIGINALLY THAT WITHOUT THIS RESOLUTION, THE FINAL INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY WOULD ULTIMATELY GO TO THE CITY'S ARTS BOARD AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES ORDINANCE, IT VERY CLEARLY STATES THAT THE ARTS BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT FOR MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE MAYOR. SO THE CITY'S POLICY ESSENTIALLY PLACES ALL THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN THESE PUBLIC BOARDS FOR PERSONS THAT WE HAVE ALL APPOINTED SUPPOSED TO HAVE IS THIS EXPERTISE. SO, I WONDER IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHY WE THINK THAT DIVERTING FROM THAT ORDINANCE AND ESTABLISHED CITY PROCESS FOR THIS IS DIFFERENT? >> SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THIS SITUATION IS DIFFERENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE HOPING TO DO WITH THIS PROCESS THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION WITH COUNCILLOR PENA IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHERE THE DECISION AND THE PASS FOR FINAL RESOLUTION. WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSING DECOMMISSIONING THE ART WORK AT THIS POINT. BECAUSE WE ARE USING A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BY USING COMMUNITY DIALOGUE TO GENERATE THE SOLUTIONS WE ARE ALREADY REALLY RELYING ON THE COMMUNITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD. THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGH COMMUNITY DIALOGUE WILL ABSOLUTELY GO TO THE ARTS BOARD AND THEN THEIR COMMENTING AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL ALSO BE FORWARDED WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY SO WE'LL HAVE THAT INPUT. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THERE WILL BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH WHATEVER THE FINAL DECISION IS AND THOSE COSTS WILL NOT BE INEXPENSIVE PROBABLY. SO THEY WOULD END UP WITH CITY COUNCIL JUST BASED ON THE FINANCIAL INPUT. OR IMPACT BUT ULTIMATELY WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW AS THEY GO THROUGH THE DIALOGUE PROCESS, WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH THEM ABOUT WHERE THE FINAL DECISION IS GOING TO BE MADE. >> Coun. Davis: I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AND SO LET ME ASK ONE FOLLOW-UP. I'LL LET THIS MOVE ON. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. AGAIN, I LIKE THIS PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS. I JUST THINK WE HAVE ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT SAYS ARTS BOARD SHALL ADVISE THE MAYOR AND MAYOR SHALL DECIDE WHERE TO PLACE AND HOW TO CARE FOR PUBLIC ART. SO, MY ISSUE IS WE HAVE A PROCESS. IT IS PUBLIC. INPUT PROCESS WAS ORIGINALLY FLOWING AND DIRECTING TO THAT. I AM JUST NOT SURE WHY -- THAT SEEMS TO BE SQUARELY PLACED UPON THE MAYOR TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND COUNCIL DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A ROLE BY LAW IN THIS PROPER PROCESS. THE ORDINANCE MENTIONS DECISION OF THE MAYOR AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE MAYOR AND NEVER NEVER IS RESPONSIBILITY MENTIONED FOR COUNCIL. I DON'T DISAGREE IN PRINCIPLE WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND MAYOR CONSENTED BUT I DO THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE CONTEMPLATES THIS IS A DECISION OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND I AM NOT SURE THAT ADDING ANOTHER LAYER FOR EXAMPLE ALL OF THIS GOING TO MAYOR AND MAYOR RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE THAT A BETTER PROCESS. I AM OPEN TO HEARING MORE ABOUT IT. IN MY OPINION THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION AND PROCESS IS ADMINISTRATIVE. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONING TO ADVISE THE MAYOR. I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. HAPPY TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOU OR ADMINISTRATION. THERE ARE OTHER COUNCILORS LINING UP BEHIND ME. >> NAIR: I WANT TO UNDERSCORE A COUPLE OF THINKINGS. FIRST IS THE DESIRE TO GIVE COMMUNITY CERTAINTY ABOUT WHERE THE PROCESS ENDS. WHEN WE FIRST WERE THINKING THROUGH THIS DECISION TREE OF HOW IT COULD GO AS SHE MENTIONED, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS WHERE IT HANDS WITH THE COUNCIL BECAUSE OF NEED FOR APPROPRIATION, NEED TO APPROVE A CONTRACT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT SEEMED A LITTLE UNFAIR OF THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, IT ENDS WITH US UNLESS YOU PICK AN OPTION THAT COST AS CERTAIN AMOUNT OR REQUIRES A CONTRACT. THIS ISSUE OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK WHILE WE ARE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH BROAD BASED INPUT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AS MANY OF YOUR OTHER RESOLUTION ^ S HAVE DEMONSTRATED THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO BRING OUT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING RIGHT. WHILE THE MAYOR WILL ABSOLUTELY SEND HIS RECOMMENDATIONS AND HIS THOUGHTS AND CAREFULLY EVALUATE THE INPUT OF ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED HARD TO FILM FILL UP WITH TALENTED FOLKS, WE SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. YOU MADE SOME REALLY VALID POINTS AND IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE MAYOR AND ULTIMATELY IT LYING WITH HIM AND WE DO HAVE PROCESS IN PLACE. I THINK THE EVENTS OCCURRED ARE THE REASON THAT PROCESS IS CHANGED. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY SHOULD WE CHANGE IT, I THINK THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN INPUT IS PARAMOUNT ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT LOTS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AREN'T DIVERSE INCLUDING THE ARTS BOARD. WITH THE CURRENT ARTS BOARD I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T MAKE A GOOD DECISION BUT ADDING THESE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY INPUT IS GIVEN SO THAT, THEN, THE ARTS BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT AND THEN ALSO IT GOES TO THE MAYOR AND BECAUSE I THINK THE PROCESS ON THE REMOVAL FROM THE BOARD AT THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, I THINK THE WAS A WRONG DECISION IN TERMS OF THROUGH PROCESS WAS LAID OUT. I THINK HENCE WE REALLY NEED TO MAYBE REVISIT HOW WE LOOK AT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS NOT ONLY IN DIVERSITY BUT HOW THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR THEM NEEDS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT AND COMMUNITY BASED AS WELL. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ART AND OUR HISTORY. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: WELL, I DID SECOND THIS AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT THROUGHOUT -- SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE HARM THAT WAS DONE TO THE SCULPTURE AND JUST THE WHOLE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT. AND I REALIZE THAT THERE HAS BEEN THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND EVEN IN NEW MEXICO THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN SORT OF, FOR LACK AFTER BETTER WAY TO SAY THIS, HAVE SORT OF COME BACK OUT OF THE GRAVE, I GUESS COULD YOU SAY. THAT IS KIND OF SAD BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE REGARDING THIS WAS -- AND I DID MEET WITH THE STAFF ABOUT A WEEK AGO TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS THEY ARE ALREADY GOING THROUGH. I AM JUST WONDERING NOW THAT I AM SITTING HERE HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE ALREADY INVESTED IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD DIRECTOR SANCHEZ SAY THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN 200 PEOPLE TO DATE WHICH I THINK A COMMUNITY PROCESS COULD BE VALUABLE ESPECIALLY BEING A CITY PLANNER IN MY BACKGROUND, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROCESS AND IT IS LIKE AFTER THE FACT OF PASSING THE BILL. I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BUT NOW I AM LIKE WE ARE ALREADY IN THE ON PROCESS AND WE ARE PASSING A BILL ESTABLISHING A PROCESS. THERE IS ALREADY A PROCESS. NOW I AM NOT SURE HOW I WANT TO VOTE BECAUSE I AM THINKING, WELL, HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE WE PUT INTO THIS PROCESS WE ARE CREATING TONIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS FOR OTHER ART PIECES THAT ARE CONTROVERSIAL, ARE WE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF PROCESS. ARE WE ESTABLISHING NEW POLICIES OR I REALLY NEED SOME CLARIFICATION AND I THOUGHT I KNEW HOW I WAS GOING TO VOTE AND NOW I AM NOT ENTIRELY SURE. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. YOU SUMMED UP WHAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS TOO. I HAVE COUNCILLOR PENA NEXT. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. WE'LL TRY THAT ONE MORE TIME. >> Coun. Pena: SORRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE DIRECTOR SANCHEZ' COMMENTS BUT I THINK SHE MISSPOKE BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATION ISN'T ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PROCESS. THE COMMUNITY PROCESS STARTED LONG AGO. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS ABOUT. THIS RESOLUTION IS USING COMMUNITY IN-NAUGHT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING TO UTILIZE THAT TO GIVE TO ARTS BOARD SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION I GUESS TO THE MAYOR BUT THEN ULTIMATELY THE MAYOR WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO US. SO, THE ONLY CHANGE IN HERE IS THAT THE MAYOR TAKES THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKES RECOMMENDATION TO US AND WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. >> Coun. Benton: I THINK IN TERMS OF PROCESS I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BILL. I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY IF WE LOOK AT THIS -- IF WE LOOK AT ONATE INSTALLATION, AS THIS PROCESS UNFOLDS WHICH IS ALREADY LAID OUT AND I APPRECIATE HOW DIRECTOR SANCHEZ HAS TAKEN THIS ON THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOTS OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. MY SENSE IS GOING TO BE THAT WE ARE BASICALLY INSERTING OUR SEVERALS INTO A PROCESS THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED BY THESE DECISIONS ABOUT PUBLIC ART AND, THEN, STARTS UP THE WHOLE ARGUMENT OVER AGAIN. RIGHT? THE WHOLE PUBLIC PROCESS THAT IS UNFOLDING NOW THEN WILL BE ANOTHER CRACK WILL BE TAKEN AT IT JUST LIKE, I MEAN, LIKE ANYTHING OF CONTROVERSY LIKE THE FIREARMS BILL. WE ARE TAKING ON SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY WAS NOT ANTICIPATED. I WONDER WHETHER IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE HOW THIS SORT OF DECISION IS MADE, THAT IT SHOULD BE BROADER THAN THIS IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM GOING FORWARD WITH REGARD TO THE -- WITH A DECISION LIKE THIS ONE. THIS IS ANOTHER BAIL BAIL WICK OF THE DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE NOT ART INSTALLATIONS BUT SUPPOSED HISTORIC PLAQUES THAT STILL EXIST ON CIVIC PLAZA THAT I AND MEMBERS OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE OBJECTION TO. THEY ARE NOT ART WORKS, THEY ARE SOME REPLICAS OF CANNONS AND PLAQUES SAY SOME THINGS THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE A LOT OF ISSUE WITH. BUT, ARE WE -- HOW MUCH MORE AND BETTER INPUT ARE WE GOING TO PROVIDE BY TAKING THIS ON AND, IF SO, IT SEEMS TO BE A CLEAR DEPARTURE FROM THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS SET UP PREVIOUSLY. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROCESS. I REALIZE SOME PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AS TO THE ETHNIC MAKE UP OF THE ARTS BOARD AND I SHARE THOSE CONCERNS. THERE ARE MANY BOARDS THAT ARE LESS THAN REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE SOMEHOW WE ARE -- WE PUT THE CART OUT THERE AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO BRING THE HORSE ALONG AND DRAG IT BACKWARDS OR DO WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO DO. IT SEEMS LIKE OPENING UP A WHOLE SECONDARY DISCUSSION AND I DON'T SEE WHAT MORE THE COUNCIL WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING TO THAT DECISION. ONCE THE PROCESS INFOLDS AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THERE IS CONSENSUS REACHED AS A RESULT OF THIS PUBLIC PROCESS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS SPECIFIC ART INSTALLATION. >> RAEL: THERE PRESIDENT, IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION I'LL WAIT. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO ASK PROCESS QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCEDURE THAT WE ARE USING. DR. SANCHEZ TALKED ABOUT IT. CAN YOU JUST TELL US REALLY QUICKLY HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS WILL TAKE BEFORE THEY BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARTS BOARD OR BEFORE THE ARTS BOARD WOULD START HAVING PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS. DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY. >> SANCHEZ: ROUGHLY AT THIS POINT OUR PROJECTIONS ARE THAT WE WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION IN MID TO LATE OCTOBER, JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SESSIONS, PEOPLE AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO US GET THROUGH. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> RAEL: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR ON WHAT IS GOING ON HERE WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. WE KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE IS GOING TO HAVE FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES REGARDLESS HOW LONG WE GO THROUGH A COMMUNITY PROCESS, BECAUSEN HE HAVE TABBABLY THERE BECAUSE INEVITAY PEOPLE ARE PASSION@ABOUT THIS ISSUE. DIRECTOR SANCHEZ SAID THE CHALLENGE IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IS GETTING THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND BASICALLY PRESENT POTENTIALLY I WOULD SAY A COMPROMISE OF SORTS TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE OF THIS INSTALLATION. THE CHALLENGE WILL BE THAT IF WE ARE TO ASSUME THAT GIVEN THE COMMENT THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE MADE THAT WE GO TO ARTS BOARD AND ARTS BOARD ULTIMATELY AGREES WITH THE COMPROMISE THEN WE HAVE TO COME FOR APPROPRIATIONS, THOSE THAT DON'T AGREE WITH THE COMPROMISE WILL COME AND ASK FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT AT THAT POINT. THE PIECE WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING THE CONVERSATION GO THROUGH SIX TO NINE MONTHS AND FIND OURSELVES BACK AT THE SAME PLACE. THERE IS NO EASY SOLUTION. THESE ISSUES ARE PASSIONATE ON BOTH SIDES AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION TO BE HAD. OUR GOAL IS TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT GIVES US A WAY TO GET TO AN ENDS POINT. END POINT REGARDLESS OF I THINK WHAT WE ALL MIGHT THINK TODAY IS GOING TO BE AN APPROPRIATION AND OR A CONTRACT THAT IS GOING TO BE BEYOND THE APPROVAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION. IT IS GOING TO ENDS UP IN COUNCIL'S LAPEL CAMERA ANYWAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THESE ISSUES GO TO THE GOVERNING BODY. YOU'RE THE GOVERNING BODY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE APPROPRIATE AND WHAT EXPENDITURES WE CAN ASSUME BASED ON THE RULES WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY. THAT IS WHY THIS RESOLUTION IN OUR OPINION IS A WAY TO FINALLY GET TO A DECISION POINT. IT IS A LOT LIKE YOUR LAND USE ISSUES. WE CAN SIT ON THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND MAKE DECISIONS BUT ULTIMATELY THEY GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION BECAUSE YOU HOLD NTHIS CASE, YOUR LAND USE AUTHORITY, IN THIS CASE NMANY INSTANCES YOU'RE THE FINAL APPROVAL OF BUDGETS AND/OR CONTRACTS THAT EXCEED 100,000. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR THIS IS GOING TO ENDS UP BY ALL LIKELIHOOD REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAYOR DECIDES, A DECISION THE COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE. OUR GOAL HERE WITH THIS RESOLUTION WAS TO GIVE CITIZENS A STRAIGHT LINE TO SAY WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS BUT ULTIMATELY IT COMES DOWN TO APPROPRIATION OR CONTRACT, COUNCIL IS GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THAT DECISION AND THUS ENTIRE CONVERSATION WILL START ALL OVER AGAIN ONCE IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. WE'LL CONTINUE OUR PROCESS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MAYOR TO THE COUNCIL AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS ITSELF OUT. IT WOULD SURE BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A CLEAR, IF YOU WILL, DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ON THIS PROCESS. THAT IS WHY WE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE THINK THAT GIVES US ENOUGH TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT AND GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: YIELD BACK TO ME TO FINISH THE THOUGHT BEFORE WE DID THAT. MR. RAEL WE'LL REMEMBER THAT YOU JUST SAID PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL DO WHATEVER WE SAY WHEN WE GET TO I DO CONVERSATION IN A MINUTE. THIS IS WHERE I AM WITH THIS PROCESS. I THINK COUNCILOR BORREGO MADE EXCELLENT POINT. I REMEMBER IN EARLIER COUNCILOR CONVERSATIONS, COUNCILOR HARRIS RAISED WHAT ABOUT PARKS THAT WE NOW THINK ARE CONTROVERSIAL. SO I DON'T DISAGREE THE DISPUTE OVER THIS STATUE OUT SIDE THE MUSEUM BECAME THE SPARK THAT STARTED NOT JUST THIS CONCERN, THAT HAS BEEN UNDERLYING OUR HISTORY LONG BEFORE IS WITH A PART OF IT BUT IT REALLY BECAME A FOCAL POINT FOR US ABOUT THE NEED FOR A PROCESS. SO, MY LENS IS THAT THAT STATUE IS PUBLICLY IMPORTANT AND PUBLICLY ADVICE I BELIEVE BUT VISIBLE BUT THERE ARE SMALLER CONVERSATIONS ON A NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL AND COMMUNITY LEVEL THAT ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESS. WE HAVE TALKED TO ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. I APRIL LEANING TOWARDING SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT PUBLIC ART ORDINANCE AND LOOK FOR A PROCESS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WE CAN USE AND PROVIDE THAT CERTAINTY. IT MAY WELL END UP AT COUNCIL AND THAT MAY NEED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE APPROVED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BUT IF THE REASON TO COME TO COUNCIL IS BECAUSE IT NEEDS MONEY. WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR THAT. WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN A MINUTE ABOUT THE COPS GRANT. I AM LEANING TOWARDS IDEA WE ON THE TO DO THIS ON A SYSTEM I C LEVEL INCLINED TO THINK THIS MIGHT BE BROADER AND BETTER SO THAT IT CAN BE USED AS A PROCESS ACROSS THE CITY, NOT JUST FOR ONE ISSUE. I WON'T WEIGH IN ANYMORE. I KNOW OTHER COUNCILORS SMARTER THAN ME HAVE BETTER THOUGHTS. COUNCILOR PENA. I AM GOING BACK TO YOU IF YOU LIKE. >> Coun. Pena: ACTUALLY I WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN AND HAVE SOME OF THE DEBATE BEFORE EVERYBODY SAYS THEY DON'T LIKE THIS. I AGREE THE EASY THING FOR US TO DO IS LET THE MAYOR DECIDE AND TO GO WITH THE PROCESS WE HAVE OUTLINED IN THE BOOKS. SO, WE CAN DO THAT AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT MR. RAEL SAID, I THINK IT ENDS UPCOMING BACK TO US. BUT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE ACTIONING OF THE ARTS BOARD ARE WHAT RESULTED IN WHAT IS OCCURRING IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW. THERE IS A PUBLIC OUTCRY IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THE ACTIONS OF THE ART BOARD DID AND ACTUALLY THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT THEY KNEW AS THIS OCCURRED. SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS AND SO FOR ME, I THINK THAT US HAVING THESE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS NOW ARE WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE AS YOU BETTER CITY. I THINK WE SET THE EXAMPLE WITH THE JORNADA, BECAUSE THEY CREATED THIS AND THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING AT THAT AND THEY ARE RILEED UP AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE LEADERSHIP. WE REPRESENT NINE COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND IT IS A HARD CONVERSATION ABOUT LA JORNADA. I MENTIONED POLL AND DIRECTOR SANCHEZ SAID WE CAN'T RELY ON A POLL. I THINK THAT POLYS IMPORTANT. BRIAN SANDEROFF GETS THE PULLS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I AM GLAD SHE HAS SPOKEN TO (INAUDIBLE). >> WANT TO REFUTE LOGIC OF MR. RAEL ON THIS ONE BECAUSE UNLESS WE HAVE A FOR GONE CONCLUSION THAT SOMETHING WILL CHANGE WITH EXISTING ART WORK THERE MAY NOT BE ANY SERIOUS FISCAL IMPACTS FROM THE DECISION THAT MAY COME OR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY COME OUT OF THIS PROCESS. SO, YEAH, IF THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PROPOSAL TO TOTALLY RELOCATE OR DISMANTLE THE ART WORK OR WHATEVER, THAT DOES ENDS UP COSTING A LOT OF MONEY. IF ANOTHER DECISION IS REACHED I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD BE VERY LITTLE FUNDING IMPACTS AND COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THAT. I DON'T REALLY BUY THAT LOGIC. IT ENDS UP BEING SOMETHING DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS THERE, WE ENDS UP HAVING A SAY OVER IT. I WOULD ALSO ASSUME THAT THE MAYOR WOULD IS A VETO OVER ANY DECISION IF WE WERE TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THAT THE MAYOR WOULD HAVE A VETO OVER THAT DECISION. POTENTIALLY. SO, HOW MANY TIMES YOU WANT TO GO ROUND AND ROUND WITH THIS. I MEAN THIS IS NOT THE FIRST GO ROUND ON IT. SO, I DO UNDERSTAND COUNCILLOR PENA'S LOGIC, OKAY, THIS IS MORE -- THE SAME VOICES ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE SPEAKING TO US AS ARE SPEAKING TO THE MAYOR, RIGHT, NO MATTER WHO MAKES THE DECISION. SO, ARE WE GOING TO SOMEHOW MAKE A BETTER DECISION. I DON'T KNOW. IS IT BASED ON A POLL? I DON'T KNOW. IT IS A MAJOR INVESTMENT WAS MADE ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE TO PUT THIS INSTALLATION IN AND IT WOULD COME TO US CERTAINLY IF A DRASTIC CHANGE IS PROPOSED. I DON'T REALLY BUY THAT LOGIC, OH, WE HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO BE INVOLVED. I WANT TO JUST GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS IN OLD TOWN SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN REMOVED SOME NOT. AND OTHER SIMILAR POTENTIAL CONTROVERSY RIGHT? WHAT ABOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS. I DO THINK IT PROBABLY RESIDES WITHIN THE CULTURAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AS SORT OF THE VENUE BECAUSE THOSE HISTORICAL INTERPRETATIONS AS I SAID BEFORE ARE MANAGED IN OLD TOWN BICULTURAL SERVICES. THEY ARE NOT ART WORKS. IT IS DEPARTMENT OF CULTURE, RIGHT? CULTURAL SERVICES. SO, ALL OF THIS LEGACY IS A CULTURAL ARGUMENT. SO, I THINK IT MAY GO BEYOND ART ONLY. YOU KNOW. I DON'T DISCOUNT THE NEED TO HAVE GOOD SETTLEMENT AND A GOOD PUBLIC PROCESS. I AM GOING, I THINK, THE MAYOR CAN INTERPRET WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL AS WE CAN. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR SENA LAST WITH COMMENTS. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO THE SPONSOR TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Sena: MY COMMENT WAS REALLY OF SOME CONCERN TOWARDS EFFORT THAT WAS PUT THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT OVER 200 PEOPLE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST AND MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE WATCHING THE LIVE FEED AND ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THAT EFFORT GO IF THIS IS NOT PASSED? WHERE DOES THE CONVERSATIONS LIE AFTER THIS? THEY WANT SOME MORE DIRECTION AND I THINK THAT THIS RESOLUTION PROVIDES THAT AND THAT IS WHY I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK THE REAL THING THAT SPURRED THIS ALL WAS COMMUNITY CONVERSATION BECAUSE PEOPLE FELT VERY PASSIONATE AS TO WHAT THAT STATUE AND THE INSTALLATION ITSELF REPRESENTED TO THEM. FROM ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, EVEN THOSE THAT ARE NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED. PEOPLE FELT PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. SO, I THINK A BIG CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT WHERE DOES THE CONVERSATION GO AND WHERE DOES THE EFFORT CONTINUE AFTER THAT? IF THIS RESOLUTION WERE THE NOT PASS, THEN WHERE DOES IT GO? AND THE EFFORT THAT WAS ALREADY MADE GOING ON PRIOR TO THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. SO, I GUESS THAT IS WHERE MY QUESTION IS AND FOR ME I HOPE THAT THIS WOULD BE A FRAME WORK FOR THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF DIRECTOR SANCHEZ CAN ANSWER THAT. >> SANCHEZ: I DO THINK THAT OUR HOPE AND OUR INTENTION IS THAT REALLY BUILDING A COMMUNITY CENTERED PROCESS AND COMMUNITY CENTERED DIALOGUE WOULD BE A FRAMEWORK THAT WE COULD USE IN A LOT OF THESE OTHER ISSUES. I THINK THE THING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IN TERMS OF HOW WE FRAMED THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT IS PARTICIPATING IN THE DIALOGUE, THESE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OTHER AND GOING REALLY DEEP INTO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ISSUES. I AM LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITIES AND SOLUTIONS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE BUT I DO HONESTLY 100% BELIEVE THAT A PROCESS THAT BRINGS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND HAS US WORKING WITH EACH OTHER ON GENERATING SOLUTIONS IS GOING TO GENERATE POWERFUL SOLUTIONS. WE TYPICALLY ARE USED TO GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT IN A WAY WHERE COMMUNITY COMES ONE AT A TIME, PROVIDES INPUT DIRECTLY TO DECISION MAKERS AND THEN KIND OF MOVES ON. WHAT WE HAVE ASKED PEOPLE TO DO IS COME INTO THIS PROCESS AND PARTICIPATE WITH EACH OTHER AND TO GENERATE THOSE SOLUTIONS WITH EACH OTHER. AND BE THE DECISION MAKERS. I THINK THAT IS A POWERFUL REFRAMING OF HOW WE DEAL WITH THESE REALLY DELICATE ISSUES. I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY STRONG PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM AND PUBLIC ART PROCESS AND IT HAS WORKED REALLY WELL BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN FACED WITH THIS KIND OF REALLY CHALLENGING CONVERSATION AROUND A PUBLIC ART WORK. I THINK THAT THIS IS PARTICULARLY DIFFERENT. WE ARE TRYING TO APPROACH THIS PROBLEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY. NOT EVERYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THESE LONGER DIALOGUES. WE HAVE HAD MORE THAN 1000 PEOPLE AS OF TODAY PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY'S SURVEY. WE HAVE MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS. SO, RIGHT NOW, WE EXPECT TO HAVE MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE HOPEFULLY 2500 PEOPLE AS KIND OF OUR GOAL THAT WILL HAVE PARTICIPATED BY THE ENDS OF THE PROCESS AT ONE LEVEL OR ANOTHER. THE DIALOGUE PROCESS TO US IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. SO, WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE? I HOPE IT IS A FRAMEWORK. WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT AND THAT WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND SUPPORT THEM IN GENERATING POSITIVE AND POWERFUL SOLUTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> Coun. Sena: I WANT TO CLARIFY TOO OUT OF THESE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS THAT RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD AND THOSE WOULD BE ACTED UPON WHETHER IT IS THROUGH COUNCILOR THROUGH THE MAYOR; IS THAT CORRECT? ALSO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE CONVERSATIONS CONTINUE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS RESOLUTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL DISCOURAGED THAT AFTER THIS, THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY CRITICAL ESPECIALLY WITH EQUITABLE OUTREACH TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES AND HOW THIS IMPACTS THEM AND JUST THINKING OF WHETHER IT IS SYSTEMIC OR INSTITUTIONAL THAT IS THESE CONVERSATIONS DO COME OUT AND THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS ACTUALLY PART OF SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS AND PEOPLE REALLY DID OPEN UP IN SOME OF THE SESSIONS THAT I WAS PARTS OF AND THEY FELT OPEN ENOUGH TO SHARE THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL THAT ALL OF THAT WENT TO WASTE TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THIS BRINGS FORWARD SOME SOLUTIONS AND THEY ALSO FEEL HEARD, THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HEARD. >> SANCHEZ. ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THIS PROCESS, COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY AND BEING POSITIVE DIALOGUE WITH EACH OTHER AND BRINGING RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO THE COMMUNITY SO THIS CONVERSATION CAN CONTINUE. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE GENERATED BY THIS COMMUNITY FROM THIS PROCESS WILL GO TO THE ARTS BOARD. THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL GO TO THE MAYOR. OUR INTENTION IN WORKING WITH COUNCILOR PENA AND SUPPORTING HER IS THAT WE ARE HONEST WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT WHERE THE FINAL DECISION IS GOING TO BE HELD. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE PROCESS THAT WE LAID OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DIALOGUE. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. WE HAVE COUNCIL OR BORREGO AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT TO A CLOSE. WE WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE. >> Coun. Borrego: AS I SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION, I THINK THIS COMMUNITY PROCESS IS VALUABLE EITHER WAY. WHETHER THIS ORDINANCE OR THIS RESOLUTION PASSES OR NOT. BECAUSE IT BRINGS THE COMMUNITY INPUT INTO -- THEY ARE CREATING THIS PROCESS THAT IS CREATED UNDER THIS RESOLUTION OR THE PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXISTS. SO, REGARDLESS, THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IS IMPORTANT IN EITHER INSTANCE AND I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILLOR PENA IS TRYING TO DO HERE AND DIRECTOR SANCHEZ, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO START LOOKING AT EVERY PIECE OF ART, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSY INVOLVED, BUT, IT IS STILL A PIECE OF ART. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PIECES OF ART THAT MIGHT BE CONTROVERSIAL SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER FOR TO US GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE AND TWEAK THAT. AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THAT. BECAUSE, THERE IS ALREADY A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS IN THE ARTS BOARD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE CITY WAS DEEMED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THAT, IN ITSELF, CREATED A LOT OF CONTROVERSY. THERE WAS CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE ART PIECE AND THEN ALSO CON STROW CONTROVERSY OVER THE PROCESS. ANOTHER BILL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, I SAID, SOMETIMES THE CITY IS ITS OWN WORST ENEMY. BECAUSE WE DON'T FOLLOW OUR PROCESSES. SO, WHY IS THAT IT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE ANOTHER PROCESS WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS THAT EXISTS. THERE IS NO REASON WHY DIRECTOR SANCHEZ CAN'T CONTINUE WITH THAT PUBLIC INPUT, TAKE IT TO THE ARTS BOARD AND LET IT FOLLOW EXISTING PROCESS. IF WE ARE REALLY GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE AS COUNCILOR BENTON SAID EARLIER, WE MAY NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER THINGS BESIDES ART PIECES. WE MAY LOOK AT ROAD NAMES AND COMMUNITY CENTER NAMES. WHATEVER IS OUT THERE. BUT, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT BECAUSE OF THE SORT OF SITUATION THAT OCCURRED IN OILED TOWN, WE DON'T STRAY FROM WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD STAY. WE COULD STILL HAVE THIS PUBLIC PROCESS. I MEAN, OUR DIRECTOR, COULD STILL CONTINUE WITH THAT. LET'S BELT DOWN THIS PUBLIC ARTS STRUCTURE. PEOPLE WILL BE FURIOUS AND SAY I WASN'T PART OF THAT PROCESS. AS COUNCILORS THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE TO DECIDE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, DO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PUT ADDITIONAL MONEY? EVENTUALLY THE ARTS BOARD IS GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE MAYOR AND TO THE COUNCIL. SO, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT IS ALL GOING TO COME BACK TO US. WE ALREADY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE. I SEEM TO HAVE MADE MY DECISION. >> Coun. Harris: BRIEFLY. WE ARE THE GOVERNING BODY, WE SHOULD GOVERN AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SOMEONE SAID IN SERVING OURSELVES. WE ARE IN CHARGE. IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING IN A FOCUSED MANNER VERSE AS YOU GLOBAL MANNER, I THINK THAT IS A DODGE AND WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THESE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. I THAT I POLL SHOULD HAVE BEEN A WAKE UP CALL, 20% UNDECIDED BUT 53 TO -- IT WAS TWO TO ONE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY DISAGREE WITH THAT DECISION. A MISTAKE WAS MADE BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN PUBLIC POLICY, LOUDEST VOICES CONTROL NOT THE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE. WE ALL REPRESENT. I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION AND I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER COUNCILORS BACK TO COUNCILLOR PENA TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Pena: YES WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE AND YOU KNOW THE WORLD ISN'T GOING TO END IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IS LOOKING TO US FOR LEADERSHIP AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE AT NOW IS PART OF THE PROCESS AS WELL AND IT WAS FLAWED AND I BELIEVE THAT GOING BACK TO THE SAME PROCESS THAT WAS FLAWED TO BEGIN WITH DOESN'T DO US A HILL OF BEANS IN TERMS OF REALLY MOVING THIS CITY FORWARD. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS, THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING, IT IS NOT -- THE CITY IS NOT RUNNING THIS. CULTURAL SERVICES IS NOT LEADING THIS PROCESS. IT IS CLEAR SINCE THE BEGINNING, COMMUNITY AND LEADERS OF EACH OF THOSE TEAMS ARE LEADING THE PROCESS AND THEY HAVE DONE SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB AND PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THOSE TEAMS, LEADERS OF THOSE TEAMS AND THE CITY IS THERE TO HELP THEM THROUGH THEIR PROCESS OF HEALING, REALLY SOME REALLY INCREDIBLE DIALOGUE IS COMING OUTS OF THOSE MEETINGS AND PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER AND I HAD JUST HAD A MEETING WITH, YOU KNOW, IF I NAMED SOME OF THE NAMES THAT WERE SITTING IN ON THIS MEETING YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THEY SAT IN THE MEETING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE COME TOGETHER AND MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY. I AM REALLY ENCOURAGED ABOUT THE PROCESS. IF IT GOES THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS, YOU KNOW, OKAY, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WHETHER I AGREE WITH COUNCILLOR BENTON WHETHER IT ACTUALLY IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT MR. RAEL SAID, I AM NOT SURE THAT I AGREE WITH ALL THAT AS WELL, BUT, ALL I CAN SAY IS FOR THIS PROCESS, I THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN A VERY UNIFYING EFFORT LED FROM THE COMMUNITY WITH THE HELP OF CULTURAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO, THANK YOU. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM, ASK CLERK TO CALL THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: NO. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: NO. THAT PASSES ON 5-4 VOTE. >> R-93. >> Coun. Pena: I DEFER TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> Councilor Bassan: THANK YOU. SO, R-93 IS APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING A GRANT AGREEMENT FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES AND PROVIDING AN APPROPRIATION TO ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021. I MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Gibson: SECOND. >> Councilor Bassan: I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SAY THERE IS FOUR OF US COUNCILORS MADE SURE TO GO TO WASHINGTON AND WORKED HARD FOR THIS. I DO HAVE A QUICK REQUEST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN AMENDMENT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF COUNCILLOR GIBSON SON COULD GET ON THIS. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BUT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL BOW RIO GRANDE OR BORREN AND -- WE SAT IN THE OFFICE OF THE COPS -- THE COPS OFFICE FOR COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES AND WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND REALLY ASSURED THIS IS SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO REALLY REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN ALBUQUERQUE AND I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL SEE THAT HAS BEEN INCREASING SIGNIFICANTLY. I DO APPRECIATE WHAT MS. NAIR SAID EARLIER. I WOULD LOVE TO DEFER NOW THAT I HAVE GOTTEN ALL THAT OUT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO SAY ALL THAT, IF WE CAN GO TO MS. NAIR OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THE ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD BE GRATEFUL. >> Coun. Davis: PROCEDURALLY I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE CLERK WILL ADD COUNCILOR GIBSON AS SPONSOR. >> NAIR: THANK YOU. I JUST THINK IT IS AT SOME LENGTH ABOUT THIS DURING ADMINISTRATION SESSION AND ANSWER BUT JUST FOR FOLKS WHO MAY BE TUNING IN NOW, AS OPPOSED TO FIVE HOURS AGO WHEN WE STARTED. I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR UP A LOT OF CONFUSION AROUND SOME OF THESE ISSUES. I WON'T GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AGAIN BUT, WHAT YOUR BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER TONIGHT IS COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES OR COPS GRANT AND APD RECEIVED THESE TYPES OF GRANTS FOR EVERYTHING FROM LAB EQUIPMENT TO VICTIM ADVOCATES FOR MANY YEARS. AND THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS PART OF THE COPS HIRING PROGRAM. THIS PROVIDES 9.7 MILLION TO HERE 40 NEW OFFICERS OVER THREE YEARS AND AS NEW OFFICERSERS HIRED AND COME INTO SERVICE, MORE EXPERIENCED OFFICER WILL BE ASKED TO COMBAT VIOLENT CRIME. U.S. ATTORNEY HAS ASSURED US THAT THESE TASKFORCE OPERATIONS WOULD NOT LEAVE APD DEPLETED. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD GO TOWARDS THE COMMON MISSION OF REDUCING VIOLENT CRIME. >> COPS GRANT DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH IMMIGRANT CITY ORDINANCE. ADMINISTRATION LIKE THE COUNCIL REMAINS VERY COMMITTED TO THAT IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY ORDINANCE. THERE IS NO CONFLICTS HERE AND LEGAL CAN CERTAINLY GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT. WE HAVE GOTTEN REPEATED WRITTEN ASSURANCES FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY THAT THIS COPS GRANT IS NO WAY RELATED TO ANY MILITARY STYLE ACTION THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN REACTION TO PROTESTS IN OREGON OR OTHER CITIES. AGAIN WE ARE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN IMMIGRATION RELATED ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS IF THEY VIOLENT THE CITY ORDINANCE. WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT OPERATION RELENTLESS PURSUIT IT AND LEGEND IS OR WAS. THESE ARE JUST FEDERAL NAMES FOR FEDERAL PROGRAMS. WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR FEDS ARE PUTTING OPERATION LEGEND STAMP IN CASES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE EITHER OF THESE BRAND NAMES WERE CONCEIVED. BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLS WHAT CATCH PHRASES IT WANTS TO USE IN CONNECTION WITH FEDERAL CASES. WE DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD TIME SPENT ON QUIBBLING OVER THAT. WE JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE IS TIME OR UTILITY IN PLAYING RUMORS ABOUT WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAY OR MAY NOT DO. FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION CHANGED COURSE ON COVID-19 COUNTLESS TIMES WHILE NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE STAYED ON TRACK WITH CONSISTENT POLICIES. >> MAYOR IS CLEAR CITY DOES NOT SUPPORT OPERATIONS THAT TARGET PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF RACE, ETHNICITY OR IMMIGRATION STATUS. APD HAS BEEN CLEAR IT MUST FOLLOW THE CASA AND ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH REFORMS AT ALL TIMES WHETHER OFFICERS ARE IN A TASKFORCE OR NOT. WE ARE IN TASKFORCE OPERATIONS ALL THE TIME. JUST THE WAY THAT LOCAL AND FEDERAL AND STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT COOPERATES. COUNCILOR ABOUT APD EVALUATES EACH OPERATION AND MAKES OPERATIONAL AND TACTICAL DECISION WHETHER IT IS A GOOD FIT FOR APD OFFICERS. TO WRAP IT UP WE NEED MONEY TO HERE OFFICERS AND THIS IS MONEY TO DID THAT AND WE WILL OF COURSE CONTINUE TO TAKE IF I PUBLIC CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY. BUT WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BALANCE THE GOALS OF THE COPS GRANT WHICH WE SHARE WITH THE CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE OTHER OPERATIONS THAT WE DID NOT SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Benton: AS STATED FOUR OF US WE DIDN'T GO TO WASHINGTON JUST TO LOBBY ON THIS ONE THING BUT DID ALL ENDS UP THERE AT THE SAME TIME AND GOT OUT OF THERE WITH OUR HEALTH STILL INTACT RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN. BUT, YEAH, THE DISCUSSION -- LET ME BACK UP. MY SENSE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS CONTACTED ME, MY CONSTITUENTS IS THIS IS ALL TIED UP WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DECISION TO SEND IN STORM TROOPERS OR WHATEVER ANYBODY DECIDED TO CALL THEM, BUT TO DO SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THIS. I WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING OFFICE OF THE DOJ. NOW, I DISAGREE WITH A LOTS OF WHAT THE DOJ IS DOING. BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THAT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL VOTED TO INVITE DOJ IN. SOME OF URLS US PRESENT VOTED AGAINST THAT AND SOME FOR IT. IN THE ENDS THAT WAS THE RIGHT MOVE AND I THINK WE ARE GETTING A BETTER DEPARTMENT PAINSTAKINGLY AS IT MAY BE AS A RESULT OF THAT. THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH PRESIDENT TROUBLE. AS FAR AS TRUMP. THE FOLKS I SAW IN THAT COPS OFFICE WERE LIFETIME PEOPLE WORKING IN THE DOJ WHO SEEMED COMMITTED, HAD NO POLITICAL AGENDA AND INTERESTED IN COMMUNITY POLICING. WE HAVE TAKEN THIS KIND OF HELP OVER THE YEARS AND I DON'T SEE ANY STRINGS ATTACHED TO THIS THAT WOULD GO AGAINST OUR CITY POLICIES OF POLICE REFORM. AND COMMITMENT TO TRUE COMMUNITY POLICING. THIS IS GOING TO BRING IN YOUNGER OFFICERS INTO THE FORCE WHO WILL BE TRAINED ACCORDING TO THE CASA SETTLEMENT. IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE CONFLATING THESE ISSUES IT SEEMS INTENTIONAL BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY PEOPLE OF REPORTS OF HOW PEOPLE HAVE RECEIVED THIS MISINFORMATION I BELIEVE THAT IS OUT THERE. THEY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEMSELVES AND WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION THEY ARE PUTTING OUT. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH -- (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SENA AND THEN GIBSON. >> Coun. Sena: I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE EFFORTS OF MY COLLEAGUES GOING TO DC AND REQUESTING THIS FUNDING THAT SPECIFICALLY IS GEARED TOWARDS COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING. THAT IS ACTUALLY COMMUNITY POLICING. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF FINDING FEDERAL FUNDS TO HERE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR HAS BUDGETED IN HIS OWN BUDGET TO HERE 44 OFFICERS, EVEN MORE THAN WHAT THIS FUNDING WOULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE. MY QUESTIONS ARE, I WANT, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS TO THE AWARD LETTER THAT IS SPECIFIC TERMS AND CONDITION OF THIS GRUNTER. G R A NT. THE COMMUNITY IS LEERY GIVEN THAT ORIGINALLY THIS GRANT WAS IN RELENTLESS PURSUIT AND CONDITIONS OF THAT DID NOTE CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATE THAT I DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO WHAT THAT GRANT SPECIFICALLY AWARD LETTER STATED BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE TARGET AND SPECIAL TERMS OF THIS GRANT? WHAT DOES THE LANGUAGE CLEARLY LAYOUT. IF IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THIS IS ONLY GEARED TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, THEN THAT IS FANTASTIC. I THINK WE WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS COORDINATION OF FEDERAL OFFICERS OR THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT, HOWEVER, IF THESE ARRESTS ARE MADE, DO THEY GO DIRECTLY TO FEDERAL DEPARTMENTS, SAY? I AM THINKING ABOUT THAT CASE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK, OF PREVIOUS CASES WHERE ATF CAME AND TARGETED OUR COMMUNITIES THAT RESULTED IN, YOU KNOW, NOT ACTUAL CRIMES SO I AM LEERY OF THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. GRANTED, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE NAMES AND CONDITIONS AND THING ^ S HAVE CHANGED BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I AM CAUTIOUS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THIS IS A COPS GRANT AND ALTHOUGH THAT WE ARE STATING THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HIRING OF NEW OFFICERS, WHAT ARE THE TERMS AND AGREEMENTS OF THAT GRANT APPLICATION. THAT IS A QUESTION FOR SPONSORS OR ADMINISTRATION. >> Coun. Davis: MS. NAIR CAN YOU TAKE THAT OR FARM IT OUT. >> NAIR: FIRST OF ALL WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE ACTUAL PAPERWORK WE DO HAVE WITH US OF SPECIALISTS, AND WHILE SHE COMES ON LINE HERE, I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SAY HOW OUTSTANDING SHE IS AND WHAT A GREAT JOB SHE DOES GETTING MONEY FOR THE DEPARTMENT, MANAGING THAT MONEY, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO ANY TROUBLE BY USING IT INCORRECTLY. WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MARIA. >> MARIA GARCIA CUNNINGHAM: ALL RIGHT. SO, MR. PRESIDENT AND COUNCILOR SENA. DO I HAVE A COPY OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT. I WAS NOT AWARE YOU DID NOT HAVE THAT. WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU DO GET A COPY. COPS GRANT AGREEMENT IS TYPICAL DOJ TIME OF GRANT AGREEMENT. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS IS THAT IT DOES SAY THAT WE WILL WORK WITH U.S. ATTORNEYS OFFICE AND CREATE A PLAN, A COMMUNITY POLICING PLAN APPROVED BY BOTH APD AND THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO, WE WILL NOT BE DOING ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO VIOLATE ANY OF APD'S POLICIES. IT IS TO HERE HERE 40 OFFICERS. TO HIRE 40 OFFICERS. >> Coun. Sena: SO, IN TERMS OF THIS TASKFORCE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOES THAT LAYOUT? WHAT DOES THE PLAN -- WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THAT PLAN IN COORDINATION OF THAT? IS THERE ANY SPECIAL AWARD CONDITION OR SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS IN THIS GRANT? >> IT CLEARLY SAYS THAT OUR PRIORITY IS TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE. IT IS PRETTY GENERIC. WE WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE THESE PLANS AS LONG AS IT REDUCES GUN VIOLENCE. THERE IS NOT ANY SPECIFICS. IT KIND OF LEAVES IS UP TO US TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE PLANS WILL LOOK LIKE. >> Coun. Sena: IF WE CAN GET THAT GRANT AWARD AND UNDERSTANDING GRANTS OVERALL WHETHER THERE IS A COST PROGRAM OR NOT, THERE IS ALWAYS LIMITATIONS AND CONDITIONS TOWARDS THAT FUNDING. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF GRANTS. JUST THINKING OF THIS, WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THIS FUNDING? >> THE LIMITATION IS THAT IT WILL GO TO SALARIES AND BENEFITS. THAT IS IT. AN OFFICER WILL BE RECRUITED AND THEN THIS GRANT WILL COVER THE SALARY AND BENEFITS UP TO $125,000 PER OFFICER FOR UP TO THREE YEARS. THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE BUDGET. 17 SUBPOENA THROUGH THIS NEW HIRES THAT IS ONLY TOWARDS. >> Coun. Sena: IT FREES UP MORE SENIOR OFFICERS FOR OTHER, I GUESS, ISSUES, SUCH AS BEING ON TASKFORCE. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. BUT THE GRANT ITSELF WILL PAY FOR THE NEW OFFICERS SALARIES. >> THAT IS HOW WE COME UP WITH THE 9.7 MILLIONARE A GRANT. >> Coun. Sena: I DO WISH THAT I COULD READ SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE MYSELF, GIVING THAT RECEIVING FUNDING AND COORDINATING WITH A FEDERAL DEPARTMENT WHICH WAS STATED BEFORE, WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT, WE HAVE ALSO DONE ERRONEOUSLY IN THE PAST IN TARGETING OF COMMUNITIES THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY PRESENT ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES, SO, I AM JUST LEERY IN THAT PART. BUT DO I WISH I HAD THE ABILITY TO READ SOME OF THIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT COMMUNITIES CONCERNS ARE UNFOUNDED JUST BECAUSE LABELING WAS DIFFERENT BEFORE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE DO RECEIVE THIS FUNDING, THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW IT WAS STATED THERE IS NO STRINGS ATTACHED BUT I AM CAUTIOUS BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IF IT IS ONLY GEARED TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, I WANT THAT REALLY LAID OUT CLEAR AND THAT THE FUNDING IS ONLY UTILIZED FOR COMMUNITY POLICING BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT HELPS OUR COMMUNITY BECOME SAFER. HOWEVER, IF THAT ALSO ENTAILS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS STATED BEFORE THAT THERE IS NO COLLECTION OF, YOU KNOW, IMMIGRATION STATUS, NATURALIZATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WITHOUT READING THAT LANGUAGE, I AM CAUTIOUS SO I KNOW THAT YOU ARE THE ONE THAT APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT AN ACTUAL APPLICATION FOR THIS GRANT OR WAS IT WE WERE TOLD THIS GRANT WAS AVAILABLE TO US AND THEN WE APPLIED. HOW DID THAT PROCESS GO? >> USUALLY THE COPS OFFICE SENDS OUT EMAILS TO MOST OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES SAYING THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR DEPARTMENTS TO APPLY. SO, BASED ON THAT NOTIFICATION I FOLLOWED THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION AND GOT APPROVAL FROM THE CHIEF AND SO FORTH AND THEN APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. THE COPS OFFICE OF COURSE IS THE COMMUNITY ORIENTED POLICING SERVICES. SO ANY GRANT FUNDS THAT COME TO THE COPS OFFICE IS ATTACHED TO COMMUNITY POLICING. >> NAIR: I WANT TO ADD CONTEXT. WE DID ALSO RECEIVE NOTIFICATION FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY THAT ALBUQUERQUE HAD BASICALLY BEEN ONE OF THE CITIES SELECTED FOR THE RECEIPT ABOUT TEN MILLION AND THAT IS ALL IN THE LETTERS IN VARIOUS DOCUMENTS. SO, WHILE WE DID -- MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM IS RIGHT WE WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN TRADITIONAL COMPETITIVE BID WHERE WE GENUINELY DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE GET IT OR NOT. THIS ONE WAS PRESENTED TO US AS THIS IS SORT OF YOURS FOR THE TAKING OR NOT TAKING. ALSO I THINK PART OF WHAT YOU MIGHT BE ALLUDING TO IS SOME OF THE GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT APPLY TO EVERY FEDERAL GRANT. THERE IS LIKE THE LONG WRITERS AT BACK OF IT AND CERTAINLY WHEN YOU SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS YOU'LL SEE THOSE BUT WITH RESPECT TO I'M IMMIGRANT FRIENY STATUS THERE IS NO INCONSISTENCY WHAT THAT GRANT CONDITION REQUIRES AND WHAT WE ARE DOING AND COMMITTED TO DOING. >> Coun. Gibson: I THINK WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE IS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU. DIRECTING THIS TOWARDS MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM. GOOD TO SEE YOU BY THE WAY. WE SPENT TWO MEETINGS TOGETHER BEFORE GOING OFF TO WASHINGTON AND IT WAS -- THERE WAS A LOT TO THIS. WE HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR SOME MONTHS AS I RECALL BEFORE WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO GET THE MONEY. THAT WAS THE WHOLE TRIP OR PURPOSE FOR THE TRIP AND TALKING WITH THE FOLKS AT THE COPS OFFICE; IS THAT CORRECT. >> WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN AWARD BUT THE CITY HAS NOT ACCEPTED IT. WHEN WE MET, THAT IS CORRECT, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN BEGIN AWARD BUT HAD NOT ACCEPTED IT. SOME OF THE COUNCILORS MET WITH THE COPS OFFICE. IT WAS AFTER AWARD HAD BEEN GIVEN BUT NOT YET BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> Coun. Gibson: WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE ACCEPTING THIS. >> CORRECT WE NEED CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO ACCEPT IT. >> Coun. Gibson: IT WOULD BE A DARN SHAME TO SEND FOUR COUNCILORS PLUS STAFF TO WASHINGTON AND NOT ACCEPT WHAT IS BEING GIVEN TO US. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I DO UNDERSTAND AND VERY SYMPATHETIC WITH COUNCILOR SENA'S PLIGHT IN ASKING FOR INFORMATION AND GETTING A SUMMARY. S THAT THAT IS NOT HELPFUL BUT ANYWAY I WANTED TO THANK YOU MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY AND PARTICULARLY THE POLICE, SO, THANK YOU. >> Coun. Pena: THIS IS GOING BACK TO INTERRUPTING GOING BACK TO COUNCILOR SENA'S COMMENTS ON RESOLUTION AND I WAS WONDERING IF PERHAPS MS. YARA OR MR. MELENDRES IF WE COULD ADD SOMETHING -- AN AMENDMENT TO THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE REALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT, WE ARE GOING TO HERE THE OFFICERS AND IT LAYS THAT OUT BUT DOES SAY WILL BE ONLY BATTING VIOLENT CRIME, CAN YOU PUT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, USING COMMUNITY BASED POLICING MODELS, VIA THE CASA AND JUST I THINK AMENDMENT THAT KIND OF JUST EASES THIS WHEREAS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE OR THAT WE REMOVE THIS WHEREAS. I AM JUST ASKING FOR SUGGESTIONS. Q. I AM A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THE RESOLUTION WITHOUT LOOKING AT GRANT AWARDS AGREEMENT THAT MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM HAS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THE COUNCIL PUTS INTO THIS RESOLUTION DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS AND UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE. IT IS UP TO THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL BUT I WOULD NEED MORE INFORMATION TO DO THAT. >> Coun. Pena: MAYBE MS. GARCIA CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE SHE SOMEBODY STATED JUST A MINUTE AGO THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE CASA AND COMMUNITY BASED POLICING. I THINK COUNCILOR SENA'S CONCERNS MERIT SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT. >> I WASN'T SURE IF MS. NAIR WAS GOING TO HANDLE THAT. I DON'T FORESEE A ISSUE WITH THAT BUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO REVIEW. JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO PROBLEMS WITH THE GRANT AGREEMENT. >> Coun. Pena: DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT. >> NAIR: I AM JUST ECHO WHAT MARIA SAID. SOUNDS GREAT TO ME BUT WE HAVE -- WE COULD PROBABLY RAISE MS. VAN METER IF WE NEEDED TO WEIGH IN ONCE WE HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE. >> OF DID YOU WANT TO JUMP IN. >> MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL I WOULD REITERATE I DON'T HAVE THE FULL TEXT OF THE GRANT IN FRONT OF ME AND THE TEXT OF THE GRANT IS PRETTY EXTENSIVE, VERY SMALL PRINT ABOUT 10 PAGES AND I WOULD HATE TO TAKE ANY ACTIONS IT IN IF IT THAT WOULD COMPROMISE THAT FUNDING. I WOULD ASK FOR TIME FOR LEGAL TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER WHATEVER LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE WITH THE TERMS OF THE GRANT. >> Coun. Pena: THANK YOU. I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO COUNCILOR SENA THEN. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL GO OUT OF ORDER. I WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT IDEA TO RESPOND TO YOURS BUT WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILOR BORREGO, BASSAN AND MYSELF. >> Coun. Sena: I DO WANT TO SAY I ACTUALLY DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT DRAFTED ALREADY IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO ENSURE THIS FUNDING GOES TOWARDS OUR COMMITMENT TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING AND I AM VERY JUST A LITTLE FRUSTRATED THAT IF WE ALL DON'T KNOW THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS GRANT AND THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY GO TOWARDS THE MISSION THAT WE ALL KIND OF SET FORWARD POLICE THAT WILL OPERATE OFF OF COMMUNITY POLICING GUIDELINES AND NOTHING ELSE AND WE ARE STILL HAVING TO DIG THROUGH THE LANGUAGE OF THE GRANT AND WE ARE JUST NOT SURE, THAT BRINGS UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO, I THINK THAT BEFORE BEING ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT LAKE AND NONE OF US ACTUALLY HAVE IT. I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT THE LANGUAGE BE SENT AND THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND IT MORE BUT DO I ALREADY HAVE IS THIS AMENDMENT DRAFTED IF COUNCILOR PEN WHY IS INTERESTED AND WE COULD SEND THAT FORWARD. >> Coun. Davis: ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION FOR A DEFERRAL HERE OR JUST LEAVING THAT ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION? >> 17 SUBPOENA I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FURTHER DISCUSSION BUT I DO -- I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY DEFER THIS JUST UNTIL WE LOOK AT THAT LANGUAGE. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LANGUAGE OF THE AWARD CONTRACT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST DEFERRING THIS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WHICH WOULD BE NOT TOO FAR FROM NOW, JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. ALSO, TALK TO OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVEN THROUGH THE FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IT STATED THAT THIS WENT THROUGH OPERATION RELENTLESS PURSUIT SO JUST TO CLARIFY AND DEBUNK THE MYTHS. >> Coun. Davis: NO MEETINGS. CAN YOU JUST VERIFY A TECHNICAL POINT HERE. WE ARE NOT UNDER ANY DEADLINE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE COUNCIL FROM DEFERRING THIS ANOTHER TWO WEEKS IN ORDER TO CONSIDER OR TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THOSE QUESTIONS? IF THERE IS ONE WE NEED TO KNOW THAT. >> WE DO HAVE TO GET THIS SUBMITTED. THE COPS OFFICE HAS GIVEN US TO MID OCTOBER TO GET THIS FULLY APPROVED. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND COUNCILORS THAT -- AND I CAN SEE COUNCILOR SENA'S POINT THAT WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, THE INTERACTION, I GUESS, OF IC OR OTHER POSSIBILITIES THAT COULD HAPPEN BUT IF I REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT I THINK IT WAS LIKE A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO THAT WE PASSED LEGISLATION THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE WOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THAT, SO, THAT KIND OF REASSURES ME A LITTLE BIT THAT, YOU KNOW, APD DOES NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, I GUESS, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT INTERACTION RATHER THAN OPPORTUNITY, TO, YOU KNOW, TURN PEOPLE IN AND SO, I MEAN, WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT KIND OF PROTECTS THAT POPULATION OF IMMIGRANTS. I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BEYOND THAT. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IN EVERYDAY LIFE AND WE CAN'T DEAL WITH EVERY SITUATION. BUT, WE DID PASS AN ORDINANCE OR A RESOLUTION. I DON'T REMEMBER IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO OR ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AND SO I JUST WANTED TO REMIND ALL OF US ABOUT THAT. >> Councilor Bassan: I REALIZE THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF TONIGHT I WAS SAYING MANY THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO SEEM COUNTER PRODUCTIVE WITH THIS BUT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS REALLY WORKED HARD ON DOING THIS AND REALLY CHEWED ON IT. MANY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MANY CONVERSATIONS AND BACK AND FORTH WITH U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN ON REASSURING AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE CLEAR, THAT THIS RESOLUTION IS SAYING THAT WE WILL ACCEPT THIS MONEY WITHOUT COMPROMISING ANY OF THE POTENTIAL AND PRIOR LEGISLATION AND, YOU KNOW, WILL OF THE CITY. SO, I THINK THAT THE INTENTION, I MEAN, HAS GOTTEN KIND OF REALLY CHEWED OVER TO THE POINT WRITE FEEL LIKE THIS IS -- WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR THIS. AND THAT IT IS EITHER DO WE WANT 10 MILLION TO HELP REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN A VERY SIS TE MATTIC WAY AS FAR AS HOW ADMINISTRATION JUST GOT DONE SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE AND SEE IF THEY AGREE TO HOW DOJ AND APD AGREE TO MAKE SURE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM. THERE IS ALREADY GOING TO BE THE AGREEMENT MADE AS FAR AS THE PROCESS. FROM WHAT WE JUST HEARD. ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO APPROVE AND SAY WHETHER THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT OR NOT AND HOW THIS IS LAID OFF. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR, ADMINISTRATION CITY ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAYING WE WON'T DO THIS IF X, Y AND Z. WELL, THEN, I HAVE SEEN THE LETTERS, REASSURING THAT X, Y AND Z WILL NOT HAPPEN AND THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THIS MONEY WITH MAL INTENT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I AM CONSTANTLY HEARING THAT WE NEED TO TRUST IN OUR, YOU KNOW, PROCESS HERE. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROCESS INVOLVED AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION AND NOTIFICATION ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO, WE ARE GETTING TO THAT CRUNCH TIME. IF WE KEEP ASKING FOR EXTENSIONS THEN THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A POINT AT WHICH COUNCILORS OR HOPEFULLY NOT ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, WOULD JUST SAY THEY DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE CITY ADMINISTRATION MADE IT CLEAR THEY DO WANT THE MONEY AND FOUND IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. I AM GLAD COUNCILOR BENTON POINTED OUT WE WERE THERE FOR MANY ROBES BUT THIS WAS A REAS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE NEED AND I DON'T THINK AMENDMENT TO SOMETHING THAT IS VERY -- THIS IS TRULY WHAT SEEMS TO BE COMBED OVER WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB. WE NEED TO REDUCE CRIME AND INCREASE EVERYBODY'S SAFETY. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER COUNCILORS WITH QUESTIONS, I HAVE A COUPLE AND THEY ARE SHORT. I AM CONSCIOUS WE HAVE THREE OTHER BILLS BEHIND US INCLUDING ONE WITH 19 AMENDMENTS. I WROTE THEM DOWN SO I CAN ASK QUICKLY. THEN BRING THIS TO A CLOSE. MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM OR M S. NAIR, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND THIS U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ESSENTIALLY RECRUITED TO US APPLY FOR THIS. HAS ADMINISTRATION SIGNED THE AGREEMENT SUBMITTED IT TO U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR ARE YOU ASKING THE COUNCIL TO BASICALLY APPROVE THE MAYOR'S SUBMITTING IT? IN OTHER WORDS WE USED BOTH OF THOSE PROCESSES. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ADMINISTRATION SUBMITS GRANT AND COMES BACK TO ASK FOR PERMISSION LATER, SAYING CAN WE PUT THE CHECK IN THE BANK LIKE WITH THE CARES ACT. SOMETIMES YOU SAY WILL YOU GIVE US PERMISSION TO PROCESS THIS. >> NAIR: DETAILED EXPLANATION TO MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM. I WILL SAY THIS ONE WAS LEFT OUT OF THE OMNIBUS BILL WE SUBMITTED EARLIER AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WE ARE HERE. MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM WHO EXPLAINED IT TO ME CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. >> GARCIA CUNNINGHAM. WHEN THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO SUBMIT A GRANT APPLICATION WE WILL GET APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL, EITHER BEFORE OR SHORTLY AFTERWARDS. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PUT IN THE OMNIBUS BILL THE ONE BILL THAT HAS ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT'S GRANTS AND IT WAS LEFT OUT. ONCE IT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE HAD LEFT IT OUT, WE QUICKLY SUBMITTED THE RESOLUTION SO THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW APPROVE THE ACCEPTANCE AND APPLICATION WILL BE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO THE COPS OFFICE. ACCORDING TO ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION 2-26, CITY COUNCIL APPROVE ANY GRANT APPLICATION. THIS ONE JUST GOT LEFT OUT. >> Coun. Davis: THERE IS A FINE. I UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE DONE IT BOTH WAYS. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE. THERE IS 157,272 IN MATCHING COSTS THAT THE CITY IS OBLIGATESSED. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. WHAT IS THE CITY PAYING FOR IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY. >> INDIRECT COST THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MANDATED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. SO, THERE IS A PERCENTAGE BASED ON EACH DEPARTMENT AND IT IS OVERHEAD. THOSE FEES GET DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT SUPPORT THE GRANT PROCESS. IT COULD BE GRANTS OFFICE, PROCUREMENT, MAYOR'S OFFICE. IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO INCLUDE WITH EVERY GRANT. THE COPS HIRING GRANT DID NOT ALLOW US TO SUBMIT IS THAT AS PART OF THE GRANT. THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO COVER THOSE INDIRECT COSTS. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. TO GO BACK TO WHAT I BELIEVE COUNCILOR SENA WAS ASKING, I WAS FIRST HIRED UNDER COPS GRANT. THAT WAS HOW WE ALL USED TO GET THESE BLOCK GRANTS TO KEEP ROLLING THROUGH, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS. BUT, WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION THAN THE TRADITIONAL COPS GRANT? LET ME GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT RIGHT. ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE TAKEN A DIFFERENT LOOK AT THIS IS BECAUSE IT ALLEGEDLY HAS SOME UNIQUE IMMIGRATION LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY ORIGINALLY OBJECTED TO OR FELT NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY THAT THE DOJ HAS APPLIED UNDER THIS FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN COPS GRANTS IN THE PAST. DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT LANGUAGE AND SHARE THAT WITH US. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT SO I THINK PART OF THE CONFUSION IS WHAT EXACTLY IS IMMIGRATION LANGUAGE THEY ARE ASKING US TO COMPLY WITH THAT WE BELIEVE OUR POLICY DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH. >> NAIR: I WILL GIVE MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM A CHANCE TO PULL IT UP. I WILL ALSO GIVE YOU THE LAYMAN'S EXPLANATION THAT I RECEIVED FROM LEGAL WHICH IS THAT THE COPS GRANT INCLUDES PROVISION REQUIRING THE CITY TO COMPLY WITH EIGHT USC1373. U.S. CODE SECTION 1373 AND LEGAL HAS CONCLUDED WE DO COMPLY WITH THAT BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT INQUIRE INTO OR COLLECT IMMIGRATION STATUS OR CITIZENSHIP INFORMATION. AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO SHARE UNDER IS THAT PROVISION AND ORDINANCE DOES NOT FOR BID SHARING IMMIGRATION STATUS OR CITIZENSHIP INFORMATION WHEN REQUIRED BY LAW. OUR IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY ORDINANCE ALREADY RECOGNIZES THERE MAY BE NARROW LEGAL SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH AND OF COURSE WE ALWAYS WOOD REGARDLESS. I WOULD SAY THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY OBJECTED TO DODGE'S INCLUSION OF CONDITIONS REQUIRING COMPLIANCE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL NOT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE WE CAN'T COMPLY WITH IT. WE DO THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY TO PUSH BACK ON UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL MANDATES. AND, WE ARE DOING THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CRIME GUN INTELLIGENCE CENTER GRANT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU STILL ARE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC WORDS. >> Coun. Davis: I WANTED TO GET WAS 1373 TO LAY THAT OUT. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS AND WE DID EARLY ON WITH LEGISLATION WHEN WE WORKED WITH ALL AND WE WORKED TO HELP CRAFT AND THIS COUNCIL PASSED. IN THE PAST WE HAVE SAID WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS APPROPRIATE WE ARE NOT GOING TO COMPLY OR THIS DOESN'T DO -- IN FACT IF I RECALL THE OF HOW WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, ON THE OTHER GRANT AT LEAST ONE OTHER GRANT, MAYBE THAT SAME GUN GRANT, WE ESSENTIALLY SAID, YOU CAN'T MAKE US DO THIS. AND WE RECEIVED SOME -- WE BENEFITED FROM SOME FEDERAL SIMILAR LEGISLATION, INJUNCTIONS, THAT REQUIRED THEM TO GO AHEAD TO GIVE US OUR MONEY OR MOVE FORWARD. WE SAID NO AND FEDERAL COURTS SORT OF SAID, THEY CAN'T REALLY ADD THIS, RIGHT? WHY SIGN THIS NOW? IN OTHER WORDS IF WE DO, I THINK MY QUESTION TO BE SPECIFIC, IF WE SUBMIT THIS AND SAY, YEAH, SURE, WE'LL SIGN IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT SO WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU IT IS A MOOT POINT, LET'S MOVE ON, WHAT IF IT GETS TO U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEY TAKE A NEW LOOK AND THEY THAT DOESN'T FLY. ARE WE BACK IN THE SAME SPOT. WHY NOT SUBMIT IS THIS FIRST AND GET OBJECTIONS ON THE RECORD OR WHATEVER IT IS, RIGHT. >> NAIR: WE HAVE EXCHANGE OF LETTERS WITH THE U.S. ATTORNEY IN WHICH THEY HAVE SORT OF SAID WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS OBJECTION -- COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS REQUIREMENT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM FOR YOU. SO, AGAIN I UNDERSTAND SKEPTICISM AND CONFUSION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILOR IS SAYING DIGGING INTO THOSE TERMS AND CONDITIONS BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE WE DID SEEK AND RECEIVE THOSE ASSURANCES FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL BRING MY POINT TO A CLOSE. WE HAVE OTHER STUFF AS WELL. I SEE COUNCILOR SE IN A. ZNA WO RESPOND AND SOURCE. SO, I SORT OF LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT WHICH MIGHT BENEFIT THE SHORTNESS OF THIS. THE REASON -- WE HAVE RECEIVED THOSE ASSURANCES FROM THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. LET ME SAY, MY APPREHENSION IS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN THE BEST NEGOTIATING PARTNERS ON THESE ISSUES LATELY WHEN IT COMES TO LAW AND ORDER AND POLICING. WHAT THEY SAY THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE DOING, DOES NOT MATCH WHAT WE SEE IN THE STREET IN OTHER PLACES. THAT IS MY CONCERN. I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER AND THEY HAVE WRITTEN A LETTER EXPLAINING THEIR POSITION AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE ARGUABLE ONE. THIS GIVES ME PAUSE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THAT LANGUAGE. QUITE FRANKLY I JUST DON'T TRUST THAT SOMEONE ABOVE MR. AND SON WON'T REINTERPRET THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD SUPPORT COUNCILOR SENA'S IDEA OF A DEFERRAL SO WE HAVE TWO WEEKS TO LOOK AT LANGUAGE AND MAKE SURE WE FEEL AS COMFORTABLE AS YOU ALL DO. WRITE UP IS A PAGE INFORM LONG. THAT IS NORMAL FOR THESE. THIS DRAWS EXTRA SCRUTINY AND WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A TWO WEEK DEFERRAL WOULD STOP US FROM DOING THAT, IF WE GET IT TO THE MAYOR AND SENT. WE CAN MOVING IN PARALLEL AS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA IS SECOND. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS DEFERRAL. JUST REMEMBER IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, LET'S SPEAK ON THE DEFERRAL AND MATTER SO WE CAN BRING THIS TOGETHER. >> Coun. Sena: THANK YOU. I JUST HAD SOME AMENDMENTS THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING FORWARD BUT I THINK IF WE ARE ABLE TO DEFER THIS TO HAVE MORE OF AN EVALUATION OF THIS, THAT I AM GIVEN THE ABILITY TO READ OVER THE GRANT AND LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, THEN I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE DEFERRAL. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Borrego: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TELL MARIA GARCIA CUNNINGHAM THAT I MET HER HUSBAND IN ESPANOLA IN MCDONALD'S. HE AND I WERE BOTH TRYING TO GET COFFEE. I ACTUALLY BOUGHT HIM COFFEE BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS. HE IS A POLICE OFFICER AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOURS AS WELL. >> THANK I COUNCILOR, HE DID TELL ME ABOUT THAT AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR BUYING HIS COFFEE. >> Coun. Davis: NEW MEXICO IS STILL A SMALL TOWN. >> Coun. Benton: THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, WOULD A, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE DEADLINE THAT IS DESCRIBED, WOULD THIS JEOPARDIZE, IF WE WERE TO ACT ON THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING, WOULD THAT JEOPARDIZE THE AWARD? >> NAIR: I AM GOING TO MAKE MARIA -- WE CAN DO IT. WE CAN PUSH IT THROUGH. IT WILL BE TIGHTER, I ALWAYS WANT TO SAY, COUNCILOR DAVIS I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS AND YOUR EXCEPTTY IS SIS MANY AND ANYTHING SKEPTICISM, AND WE'LLE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT TOGETHER. >> Coun. Benton: IF I COULD JUST I HEAR SOME TREPIDATION WITH REGARD TO OUR LOCAL PARTNERS AT THE DOJ BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO UNRAVEL LIKE THAT AND WE WERE DENIED THESE FUNDS, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING BEYOND OUR CONTROL BUT TO ME THAT IS NOT A REASON TO DEFER BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE IF THAT IS THE CASE. I DID HEAR MS. NAIR AND I WANT TO HEAR IT SAY AGAIN WITH REGARD TO THOSE OFFICERSES, VETERAN OFFICERS FREED UP, THEIR PARTICIPATION IN ANY SORT OF THIS SPECIAL TEAM, WE WOULD HAVE VETO POWER OVER WHETHER WE DECIDE TO DO THAT OR NOT, CITY AND OUR POLICIES, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE CASA AGREEMENT TRUMPS A LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS TO DEAL WITH RIGHT NOW. A LOT OF THE CONCERN ABOUT, WELL, WILL WE NOT USE THIS FOR COMMUNITY POLICING OR NOT IS A MUTE POINT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED BY THE FEDERAL MONITOR TO DO OTHERWISE. ESPECIALLY IF WE RECEIVE MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT -- WELL, THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH. SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE FEARS BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MUCH GROUNDS. I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT. BUT IF WE CAN GET THIS DONE AND SATISFY EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS, THEN, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO DEFERRAL. >> NAIR: THAT WAS OUR RISK ASSESSMENTS AS WELL. IF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WAKING UP TOMORROW AND DECIDES THEY WANTS TO CHANGE THE TERMS OR CONDITIONS OF THE GRANT WE JUST DON'T GET THE MONEY. IF THE DEPARTMENT MAKES ASSESSMENT THAT IT DOES NOT AGREE WITH A PARTICULAR TASKFORCE OPERATION, THEY WILL JUST PULL THE MONEY. IF THEY DO THOSE THINGS THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ASKING FOR APPROPRIATION TO MAKE UP FOR WHATEVER HAS BEEN SPENT OR WHAT IS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE. BUT, I DO AGREE THAT IS THE DIRECTION IT WOULD HEAD AND THAT IS HOW WE LIMIT THE RISK AND WHY WE FEEL COMFORTABLE SENDING THIS DOWN FOR YOUR APPROVAL. IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND AND PULL THE MONEY, WE'RE UNTIL NO WORSE SHAPE THAN WE ARE TODAY. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. COUNCILLOR HARRIS, THAT BEING LAST, WE'LL ASK SPONSORS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU. MAYOR KELLER IS THIRD MARRY HAVE WORKED WITH. STARTED WITH MAYOR CHAVEZ, MAYOR BERRY AND NOW MAYOR KELLER. WE APPROVE THESE COPS GRANTS BACK UNDER MARTY CHAVEZ WITH ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OF DEBATE. THESE THINGS WERE NOT CONTROVERSIAL THEN AND SHOULD NOT BE NOW. 10 MILLION TO HERE COPS. I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST DEFERRAL AND VOTE AGAINST ANY AMENDMENTS AND I WANT TO PASS THIS THING. THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR A DEFERRAL. I'LL URGE YOUR SUPPORT. MS. ORTEGA CALL THE ROLE ROLL. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: I WANT TO SAY YES, BUT NO. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. SO NOW BACK TO THE MOTION OF COUNCILOR FOR DO PASS. >> Coun. Sena: I WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A MOTION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS RESOLUTION. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE SENT THROUGH I AM NOT SURE IF IT MADE IT THROUGH OR NOT. BUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS ON PAGE 1, LINE 26, ADD SECTION 2 AS FOLLOWS, SECTION 2, CITY ADMINISTRATION SHALL DOCUMENT AND STUDY ACTIVITIES FUNDED BY THIS APPROPRIATION TO IDENTIFY HOW IT PROMOTED CITY'S COMMUNITY POLICING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AS EXPLANATION, THIS AMENDMENT ASKS FOR A STUDY OF HOW THIS FUNDING WAS SPENT TO HELP ENSURE THAT IT IS FUNDING COMMUNITY POLICING INITIATIVES. I WANT TO NOTE THIS AMENDMENT DOESN'T IMPACTS IN ANYWAY THE ACTUAL GRANT. THIS IS A STUDY, AN EVALUATION OF HOW FUNDING WAS SPENT, FITS WAS TRUE TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, SO, I AM GOING TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: FOLLOWING ALONG, MS. YARA IS SHARING THE TEXT OF THAT ON LINE. SO THAT CAN YOU SEE THAT. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T GET TO SEE PARTICIPANTS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> FOR THE DISCUSSION I'LL MAKE SECOND. COUNCILOR HARRIS I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A HAND UP. >> Coun. Harris: THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF IT WERE AMENDMENT TO OUR BUDGET I WOULD VOTE FOR IT. THIS DOESN'T BELONG HERE. WE CAN ALWAYS SUPPORT A STUDY AND PUT IT IN THE BUDGET. THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGSES. I'LL VOTE AGAINST IT. >> Coun. Davis: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT NO. 1. TO R-93? DO ME A FAVOR IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YELL OUT TO ME. WHEN WE DID A SCREEN SHERRY LOSE HANDS RAISING. NOBODY IS SCREAMING. COUNCILOR TO CLOSE. >> Coun. Sena: WITHOUT READING THE TEXT OF THIS AND IT WAS NOT DEFERRED FOR US TO MAKE THAT EVALUATION OF THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS SPECIFIC GRANT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE GET A LOT OF COPS FUNDING AND GRANTS. HOWEVER THIS, WAS ORIGINALLY GIVEN TO US AS OPERATION RELENTLESS PURSUIT. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT DID INVOLVE A LOT OF THIS COLLECTING AND MAINTAINING INFORMATION ON IMMIGRATION STATUS. I THINK THAT BY PRESENT THIS AMENDMENT, IT IS APPROPRIATE. (INAUDIBLE). >> Coun. Davis: I ASSUME YOU WANT TO COMMENT. >> Coun. Benton: COMMENTS. >> Coun. Davis: I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. >> Coun. Harris: THIS AMENDMENT IS WORSE THAN THE LAS ONE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY SAYS HOW THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT WHICH DIRECTLY JEOPARDIZES THIS GRANT. IF COUNCILOR WANTS TO PUT THIS IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT, I'LL VOTE FOR IT. BUT, JUST DOES NOT BELONG HERE. IT ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT SAYS WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE USED FOR. IT COULD ACTUALLY VIOLATE THE TERMS OF THE GRANT AGREEMENT. I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. >> Coun. Davis: COUNCILOR BENTON. >> Coun. Benton: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ADMINISTRATION THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND INTENT. I SUPPORT INTENT. WHEN I SEE THE WORD STUDY, I GET NERVOUS. WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY TO DO A STUDY AND WHO WOULD DO IT. A REPORT OF SOME KIND MAY BE WORTHWHILE BUT I DO SHARE COUNCILOR HARRIS' CONCERN BUT I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. >> NAIR: I SHARE YOUR TREPIDATION AT THE WORD STUDY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE HERE VOLUME OF REPORTS, STUDIES AND DATA ANALYSIS THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY REQUIRED TO DID AND FRANKLY A LITTLE BEHIND ON. AS COMMUNITY WELL KNOWS, WE HAVE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH THE ANTIQUATED SYSTEMS AND YEARS OF JUST NOT DOING THIS WORK. OUR TEAM IS EXCELLENT AND WORKING HARD TO GET US CAUGHT UP BUT DESIGNING A FRAMEWORK TO IDENTIFY RACIAL DISPARITIES ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE WORK OF 40 OFFICERS WHO ARE HIRED BY THIS INITIATIVE OR THE WORK THAT GOES ON UNDER POLICING PLAN THAT MS. GARCIA CUNNINGHAM REFERENCED EARLIER WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR US. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> Coun. Benton: WITH REGARD TO THE CASA, I MEAN, DOES THIS EFFECT THAT IN ANY WAY OR WOULD IT POSSESSIONLY SOMEHOW BECOME A DISCUSSION WITHIN OR COMPLIANCE IN CASA? OF COURSE THE ORIGINAL FINDINGS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT LED TO CASA, DID NOT FOCUS ON RACIAL DISPARITY. IT WAS FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON OUR RESPONSE TO PEOPLE WITH BEHAVIORAL DISORDERS AND PEOPLE IN CRISIS. BUT, IS THERE ANY DANGER OR DOWN SIDE THERE? >> NAIR: COUNCILOR BENTON I DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE WOULD BE A CASA ISSUE PER SE BUT CERTAINLY ANY TIME WE UNDERTAKE A NEW SET REPORTS, SORT OF LEFT-HANDED DOJ THAT WE WORK WITH, WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO GIVE COMMENTS ON THAT WORK SO, IT HAS -- I DON'T THINK IT HAS POTENTIAL THE JEOPARDIZE COMPLIANCE OR EVEN EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THE CASA BUT AGAIN TO ME IT IS JUST A WORKLOAD ISSUE AND COMING INTO COMPLIANCE PRODUCING REPORTS THAT WE HAVE TO FOR CASA COMPLIANCE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY HAS TO BE THE TOP PRIORITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT. >> BEEN BEEN I >> Coun. Benton: I AGREE. MY THOUGHT WAS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU IMPLY WHICH IS THAT THIS KIND OF REPORTING IS COMPLEX. AND THAT IT WOULD -- I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD USE RESOURCES AND SLOW DOWN WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WITH CASA. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. I SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION SO GOING BACK TO COUNCILOR SENA FOR CLOSE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NO. 2. >> Coun. Sena: I KNOW THAT I DON'T THINK I'LL GET SUPPORT ON THIS BUT I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS REALLY, THIS AMENDMENT IS TO EVALUATE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD JUST AS WE DO WITH OUR OTHER RESOLUTIONS ON HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND PROVIDING EQUITY IN POLICY EVEN THROUGH POLICING. THAT IS MEANING TO SAY, YES, WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW HOW THE FUNDING IS GEARING TOWARDS NEW HIRES AND HOW THAT HERE IMPACTS COMMUNITY OF COLOR, HOWEVER, I AM MORE CONCERNED OF IF TASKFORCE ARE IMPLEMENT THE THROUGH CONDITIONS OF THIS GRANT WHAT THAT COULD RESULT IN. SO THAT IS REALLY WHERE I AM COMING FROM. JUST HOPING TO MAKE THAT EVALUATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY SO I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Davis: WOULD YOU TAKE THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: NO. >> Coun. Benton: NO. >> Coun. Borrego: NO. >> Coun. Gibson: NO. >> Coun. Harris: NO. >> Coun. Jones: NO. >> Coun. Pena: NO. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> FAILS ON A 2-7 VOTE. SEEING NO OTHER AMENDMENTS. >> Coun. Sena: I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. I PROMISE. I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE MOVING TO OUR SPONSORS ON THIS. AND GO TO A VOTE BUT I JUST WANT TO KNOW AND KIND OF EXPLAIN MY VOTE JUST BECAUSE IT IS NOT THAT I AM AGAINST FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HERE MORE OFFICERS. I THINK THAT THE COPS PROGRAM HAS PRODUCED OPPORTUNITIES TO CONFORM WITH THE CASA TO HERE MORE OFFICERS AND FREE UP FUNDS BECAUSE I THINK BUT WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO READ THE SMALL FONT, TERMS AND CONDITIONS AS TO WHAT THIS FUNDING REALLY GEARS TOWARDS, I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. IF I WERE GIVEN THE GRANT AND JUST SAID, LOOK THIS IS FUNDING GOING TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, THEN, YES, I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT IF I READ IT AND WASN'T GIVEN A LETTER FROM THE ATTORNEY THAT ACTUALLY WAS LAID OUT ON THE CONDITIONS BEFORE SIGNING ONTO THAT CONTRACT, ONTO THAT GRANTS AND ACCEPTING THE FUND. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WILL PASS, NO MATTER WHAT, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK THAT I WANT TO JUST NOTE THAT I HAVE TREPIDATION ON ACCEPTING FUNDING WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS AND THE PARAMETERS. IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT I AM AGAINST FUNDING OUR OFFICERS AND HIRING NEW OFFICERSES. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, IF THIS WAS LAID OUT IN PLAIN TEXAS TO THE ME. BUT THE RESOLUTION DID NOT PRODUCE THAT GRANT AWARD LETTER NOR DID IT REALLY CONFIRM OR HE HAVE DEBUNK THAT MYTH FOR ME AND WITHOUT READING SMALL TEXT THAT AND READING AWARD LETTER I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN VOTING BUT YOU DO WANT TO ENSURE ESPECIALLY THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT I DO THINK THIS WILL PASS BUT I THINK OUR EYES WILL STILL BE ON THIS AND AS COUNCILOR HARRIS NOTED, IF THIS IS EVALUATION ON THE BUDGET WE'LL MAKE ANOTHER EVALUATION OF IT AND KEEP OUR EYES ON IT. WHETHER THIS CHANGES AND PARAMETERS AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS CHANGE WITHOUT EVEN US KNOWING BECAUSE AGAIN WE DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF US, SEEMS LIKE NONE OF US HAVE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I AM LEERY OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO NOTE TO OUR COMMUNITIES THAT I KNOW THIS WILL PASS AND I DO WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES FOR GOING OUT TO DC AND LOBBYING FOR THIS RIGHT BEFORE EVEN MEETING IN MARCH. SO, I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS AND MY VOTE IS NOT TO SAY THAT I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE I REALLY DO. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR CITY AND IF THIS WAS A REGULAR JUST COP GRANT THAT WAS GEARING TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING I WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT BUT WITHOUT READING TERMS AND CONDITIONS IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY YES. >> Coun. Davis: SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION WE ARE MOVING TO CLOSE. WE DO HAVE THREE SPONSORS. START WITH YOU HOWEVER YOU LIKE TO DIVIDE IT UP. >> Coun. Pena: CAN I START THAT WAY COUNCILOR B ASSAN CAN ENDS IT. I JUST WANT TO URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK COUNCILOR SENA. SHE SOUNDS PASSIONATE THE WAY I GET AND YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, OKAY. THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD. THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE BUT WE HAVE COMMITMENT OF ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T USE THE GRANT IN WAYS THAT WOULD BE RESPECTSFUL. IF IT CHANGES DOWN THE LINE WE CAN HAVE A SAY IN PROPOSING SOMETHING OR MOVING SOMETHING FORWARD TO CHANGE ALL THAT. THANK YOU TO CO-SPONSORS, THANKS YOU GUYS THAT WENT TO LOBBY. I WAS ASKED TO BE A CO-SPONSOR. YOU GUYS DID THE WORK AND I GOT THE CREDIT ON THE BILL. SO, THANK YOU. >> URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Coun. Gibson: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: I THINK THAT EVERYONE HAD REALLY GOOD COMMENTS. I THINK EVERYBODY -- IT IS NOT THAT THIS IS TAKEN LIGHTLY. I DO URGE YOUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE THE INVOLVEMENT. >> Coun. Davis: WOULD YOU TAKE THE VOTE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: NO. >> Coun. Davis: NO. PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >> Coun. Davis: OKAY FOLKS THAT IS SECOND OF OUR LONG ONES. WE HAVE THREE OTHER BILLS INCLUDING ONE WITH 19 AMENDMENTS. I HAVE GOTTEN TEXT MESSAGES FROM THREE COUNCILORS AND ONE PERSON IN ADDS MANAGERS WHO NEED A BREAK. LET'S DO THIS. THIS IS WHY WE START AT 3:00. LET'S TAKE FIVE MINUTES. IF EVERYBODY WILL BE BACK HERE AT 9:20. GET WHAT YOU NEED. WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO DO THE REST OF THIS MEETING. FIVE MINUTES, SEE YOU AT 9:20. (COUNCIL IN RECESS) >> Coun. Davis: I KNOW, JUST SO WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS, THE DEFER TO SPONSORS HOW THEY WANT ON TO PROCEED. WE HAVE ONE FROM COUNCILLOR BENTON AND THEN TWO IDO RELATED LEGISLATIONS TONIGHT ALONG WITH AMENDMENTS. SOME OF THOSE WERE LATE GETTING IN HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED. WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO DID THAT. WE DEFER TO THE SPONSOR. IF THEY WANT TO PUSH FORWARD, WE'LL DO THAT UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE MAKES A MOTION TO DEFER. >> START US OFF WITH R-94. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL TAKE LONG. >> Coun. Benton: THIS IS DELAYING IMPLEMENTATION OF ORDINANCE O-20-12 TO ALLOW CORRECTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS. I'LL MOVE A DO PASS. >> Coun. Sena: SECOND. >> Coun. Benton: AND THEN, PROBABLY LET ADMINISTRATION TAKE THIS. IT'S -- THERE IS SOME OVERSIGHT OR MISUNDERSTANDING APPARENTLY WITH REGARD TO PASSAGE OF THE PREVIOUS BILL. WE HAVE TO AT LEAST MAINTAIN SOMETHING IN PLACE UNTIL -- FOR ANYONE WHO IS THERE WITH PERMITS IN THE HOPPER, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ADMINISTER OUR PERMITTING PROCESS. SO, THIS WOULD BE TWO MONTH DELAY. I THINK THE STAFF REPORT CALLED IT A BAND-AID. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO CALL IT THAT BUT SOMETHING TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO DEAL WITH SOME CLERICAL ISSUES. ADMINISTRATION CAN SPEAK MORE IT TO IF COUNCILORS ARE INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. >> Coun. Davis: I WANT TO GIVE ADMINISTRATION. I SEE PLANNING FOLK ^ S HAVE STUCK IT OUT WITH US. MR. RAEL OR MR. WILLIAMS. I CAN'T SEE THE OTHER PERSON. ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT. >> RAEL: JUST WE SUPPORT OBVIOUSLY THE RESOLUTION HERE. WE OBVIOUSLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DEVELOP RULES AND PROCEDURES. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE CONTRACTORS CAUGHT IN BETWEEN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTATION FROM THE OLD TO NEW. THIS GIVES US TIME TO DO THAT AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT ON THIS. >> Coun. Benton: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: -- >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. PASSES 8-0 WITH COUNCILOR PENA EXCUSED. >> Coun. Davis: ARE YOU GOING TO GET US STARTED WITH IDO? >> YOU ARE ON MUTE AGAIN. >> WE HAVE O-9. CHARACTER PROTECTION OVERLAY FOR NORTH FOURTH. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THROUGH THAT IF WE COULD. >> Coun. Davis: WILL YOU CLARIFY PROCESS FOR US THERE WAS TIMING ISSUES THERE. >> IT IS IMPORTANT THAT O-29 GO AFTER O-2010. THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS FOR O-29 IF SOMETHING IN O-2010 DOES NOT HAPPEN RELATED TO FACADE DESIGN. IF WE COULD TAKE THAT ONE AFTER THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED. >> Coun. Benton: I'LL MOVE A DO PASS ON O-29. >> Coun. Davis: YOU WANT TO MOVE O-10. WE WANT TO DID THAT ONE FIRST. >> Coun. Benton: BEG YOUR PARDON YES O-10. MOVE DO PASS. >> Coun. Benton: THERE WERE A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS JUST SUBMITTED THIS AFTERNOON. BUT, I WOULD ASK THE IN-COLLAGENS OF THE INDULGENCE TO GET THOSE ON THE DOCKET THAT HAVE GOVERNOR THROUGH COMMITTEE. IF WE FIND ONE OR TWO THAT SEEM TO APPEAR TO BE CONTROVERSIAL THEN THEY COULD BE DEFERRED ALONG WITH THE BILL. I AM WILLING TO DEFER THE BILL BECAUSE OF THESE RECENT AMENDMENTS BROUGHT FORWARD. ALTHOUGH, I GUESS IF IT WERE REALLY UP TO ME I WOULD LIKE TO SLOG IT OUT TONIGHT. A LOT OF THE FIRST PART OF THE PACKET OF AMENDMENTS ARE LARGELY HOUSE KEEPING TYPE OF AMENDMENTS. SO, IF THAT IS ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY? >> Coun. Davis: I THINK A COUPLE OF COUNCILORS WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. >> Councilor Bassan: SO, HAVING PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS HERE AND COUNCIL SERVICES I HAVE A LOT OF CONSTITUENT CONCERNS, CONCERNS WE HAVE HEARD MORE THAN ONCE BUT I THINK THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS STILL SOME UNRESOLVED WITH SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS I THINK DEFERRAL WOULD BE PREFERRED IN MY OPINION. ESPECIALLY NOW NOTING THAT WE HAVE NEW ONES THAT I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE AND WILLING TO HAVE THE BAND WIDTH THAT IS NECESSARY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO DEFER THIS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE TIME FOR EVALUATION. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OTHERWISE I ALSO DO UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR BENTON SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH THE RINGER AND HAS HAD DECISIONS MADE AND PUBLIC INPUT. WELL AWARE OF THAT. AT THE VERY LEAST, THERE IS QUITE A BIT THAT HASN'T REALLY HAD TIME TO BE CHEWED ON. MY TWO CENTS. >> Coun. Harris: THANK YOU. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT MY PREDECESSOR DISTRICTS 9 DID IS SHE HAD A RULE CHANGE FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT SAID THEY END AT 10:30 AND IF MEETING STARTED AT 5:00 IT WOULD BE 11:30. I THINK THERE IS A GOOD REASON FOR THAT JUST BESIDES LATENESS OF THE DAY IS THAT PEOPLE GET TIRED. RIGHT NOW IT IS A SIX OUR MEETING AND WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT SOMETIMES WE LET GO THROUGH THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T OR WE -- YOU KNOW -- DON'T SAY THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SAY JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THE DARN THING OVER WITH. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IDO AS WE KNOW PASSED AT THE END OF THE BERRY ADMINISTRATION PENDING FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR DEFERRAL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT CAN PUT PUT THIS UP FIRST AND SLOG THROUGH IT WHEN WE ARE FRESH NOT BETWEEN OUR SIX AND OUR EIGHT OF AN EIGHT OUR MEETING. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR A DEFERRAL AND PROBABLY MOVE FOR ONE. >> Coun. Davis: THAT WOULD BE TO NEXT MEETING WHICH WOULD BE ON THE 21ST. I SAW LOTS OF HANDS POP UP. >> Coun. Pena: SECOND. >> Coun. Davis: DISCUSSION ON DEFERRAL. I AM GOING TO KEEP GOING THROUGH HANDS AND THEN I SEE COUNCILLOR GIBSON AS WELL. >> Coun. Borrego: I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM WEST CITED COALITION WITHIN WESTSIDE COALITION. I WENT THROUGH QUICKLY. I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ISSUES THEY WERE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE STILL -- THEY STILL REMAIN UNANSWERED AND I THINK THAT IT IS WISE OF US TO BE CAUTIOUS AND I HAVE TRIED TO CAUTION US ALL ALONG. I THINK PLANNING IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS TO DO WITH PEOPLES' PROPERTY RIGHTS. SO, I AM TOTALLY IN SUPPORT OF THAT DEFERRAL SO THAT WE HAVE MORE TIME TO TALK TO THE STAFF, TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN OUR MIND. >> Coun. Sena: THIS UPDATE HAS BEEN INTENSE AND IN-DEPTH, A LOT OF THESE AMENDMENTS AND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL WATCHING OR NOT BUT WE ARE REALLY INVOLVED IN THIS AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL KNOW THIS IS CHANGING QUITE OFTEN AND CHANGING BECAUSE WE ARE RECEPTIVE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR COMMENTS ON HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THE IDO. SO, I AM IN COMPLETE FAVOR OF THE DEFERRAL ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE LOOKING AT MORE AMENDMENTS COME THROUGH BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW, MY APPRECIATE FOR PETRA AND SHANNA. I WOULD JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR STICKING THROUGH THE WHOLE COUNCIL MEETING AND BEING ABLE TO WALK US THROUGH EVEN BEFORE THE -- SOME OF THE CHANGES, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON WHAT OTHER AMENDMENTS ARE BEING PROPOSED. JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT AND REALLY TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE IDO AND STILL LOOKING AT THIS. IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON A PARTICULAR ISSUE IN WHICH I HOPE THEY ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE STILL GOING TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND LOOK AT THESE EVALUATIONS BUT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE DEFERRAL. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Davis: OKAY. >> Coun. Jones: THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND THIS THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY BE A DEFERRAL OF SOME SORT. WE COULD BRING THE NEW AMENDMENTS TO A SPECIAL FULL COUNCIL MEETING OR WE COULD DO A LUPZ MEETING NEXT WEEK BUT I WOULD, FACT, IN FACTS, LIKE TO LET STAFF DO PRESENTATION TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE MAYBE ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT COULD MAKE THE WHOLE PROCESS MORE UNDERSTANDABLE FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN IN ON ALL THE MINUTIA THAT WE PLAYED WITH FOR A YEAR NOW. TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND PRESIDENT, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KEEP POSTPONING BECAUSE WE HAVE IDO IN PLACE AND IT IS NOT THE WAY IT IS NOT CURRENT AND WE NEED TO CORRECT THESE ISSUES. THERE WERE ERRORS IN IT. WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT AND GET THIS THING WORKING. WE CAN SHUT DOWN THE CITY FOR DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. >> Coun. Pena: THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS COUNCILOR. I DO SEE THE STAFF STAYED HERE AND I APPRECIATE IT BUT I AM PRETTY MUCH BURNED. I JUST MISSED -- I HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM A HARD TIME BUT I WAS GOING TO END THE VOTING ON IT. I WAS LIKE, A FINE TOOTH COMB. BUT, ANYWAY, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING JUST LIKE ENERGY CODE, STILL WE HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND NOT ALL COMPLETELY AWAKE. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME. I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS IN ANY WAY A DELAY TACTIC. WE SUPPORT IDO. IT IS JUST THERE ARE SO MANY AMENDMENTS AND WE NEED TO GIVE IT IT THE PROPER TIME. >> Coun. Gibson: THANK YOU. ACTUALLIES WAS GOING TO MAKE THE SAME SUGGESTION THAT COUNCILOR JONES HAD WAS GO AHEAD AND MAYBE HAVE THE STAFF DO THE PRESENTATION FOR US TONIGHT. ALSO, YOU KNOW I AM OKAY WITH DEFERRING THIS. I PREFER TO GET THROUGH IT BUT I AM OKAY WITH DEFERRING IT. BUT I AM NOT SO SURE UNLESS WE HEAR THIS FIRST, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BE UP AGAINST THE SAME THING. WE HAVE ROUTINELY HAD FIVE-AND-A-HALF, SIX OUR MEETINGS AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, I THINK, ALREADY IS. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TO PREVENT US FROM HAVING TO DEFER IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING OR DEFER OTHER IMPORTANT LEGISLATION ACTUALLY FOR THAT MATTER. >> Coun. Davis: BEFORE I GO BACK TO SPONSOR LET ME SAY, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN I AM WILLING TO FOLLOW SPONSOR WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO. WE HAVE PLENTY OF OPTIONS INCLUDING WE DON'T HAVE A LUPZ MEETING, WE COULD DO A SPECIAL FULL COUNCIL MEETING AND DO THIS NEXT WEDNESDAY AS A MEETING. IF WE DEFER, SPEAKING TO CLERK WE'LL SET THIS AS FIRST ACTION ITEM IN THE MEETING ON THE 21ST SO WE DO HAVE TIME. BUT MADAM VICE PRESIDENT IS RIGHT. IT IS ALREADY FULL AGENDA, THREE GUN BILLS. SICK LEAVE PROPOSALS AND A NUMBER OF NEW ITEMS THAT WE JUST DID IMMEDIATE ACTION FOR OR LATE INTRODUCTION. WE DO ALREADY HAVE A PACKAGE AND WE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS FROM WHERE WE ARE. WE ARE RUNNING FIVE OR SIX HOURS EVERY NIGHT, EVERY TWO WEEKS. WE WILL GO INTO BUDGET WHERE WE HAVE THREE EXTRA MEETINGS. I THINK WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET THE IDO OUT OF THE WAY. IF WE COMMIT TO DOING IT EITHER AS SPECIAL NEXT WEEK OR REGULAR DEFERRAL OF A MOTION WHICH IS FINE, I THINK AS COUNCILORS WE HAVE TO COMMIT TO WORKING WITH OUR STAFF AND GETTING THESE AMENDMENTS IN SO THEY CAN BE REVIEWED, READY TO GO SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO IDO AND BUDGET AND ALL RIO THE REGULAR BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL. I'LL THROW IT BACK TO COUNCILLOR BENTON WHO IS NEXT. MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL BUT COUNCILOR YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. IF IT IS WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND DO PRESENTATION THAT WOULD BE FINE BEFORE WE DO IT. UNLESS SOMEBODY CALLS THE QUESTION. >> Coun. Benton: IN FAIRNESS TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOLLOWED AND WAITED AT THIS MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, TO AT LEAST HEAR THE STAFF ANALYSIS OF THIS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS STILL FRESH IN OUR MINDS AS WE COME BACK AFTER A DEFERRAL, I'LL SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL. IF IT WERE UP TO ME I WOULD ASK FOR CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK TO JUST GET PASSED THIS. IT IS NOT JUST GETTING IT OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE WE DO OTHER THINGS. THIS PROCESS, THIS GROUP OF AMENDMENTS STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2019, WAS FIRST HEARD BY EPC. AND IT HAS HAD NUMEROUS LUPZ MEETINGS AND WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE SOME SENSE OF SECURITY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES AS WELL AS DEVELOPERS. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT CERTAIN OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES WOULD ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE AND BRING FORTH AMENDMENTS AND ASK FOR US TO DELAY LONGER. BUT WHEN WE PASS THE IDO WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO DO ANNUAL UPDATES. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS AND IT IS FOLLOWING THOSE COMMITMENTS P. STARTING NEXT YEAR WE START AREA COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY OF YOU AT THIS POINT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS BEFORE US. AND WHAT IS BEFORE US DESPITE WHAT IS SAID BY SOME PEOPLE IN THE -- PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICAL, BASICALLY OF OUR ENTIRE PROCESS AND DIDN'T WANT IDO IN THE FIRST PLACE AND NOW ARE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO DEFER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. >> Councilor Bassan: I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE BEEN INVESTED IN THIS PROCESS. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO GO TO THE LUPZ MEETING, TAKEN THE TIME TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL. THEY WANT TO SEE RESULTS. BUT, THEN, THERE IS ALSO THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH THROUGH AND I ABSOLUTELY AM 77 IN VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OFA SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY SO IF WE NEED TO PUSH IT BACK LATER WE CAN TRY TO GET EASIER, QUOTE UNQUOTE, EASIER STUFF OR LESS CONTROVERSIAL THINGS OUT OF THE WAY PERHAPS. >> Coun. Davis: NO OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILORS, LET'S GO TO MS. MORRIS AND MS. SCHULTZ. >> Coun. Harris: I ALSO SUPPORT A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HEAR STAFF BUT I'LL DEFER TO OTHER COUNCILORS ON THAT, SPECIAL MEETING IS FINE. >> THINKS FIRST ANNUAL UPDATE TO I DO. IT STARTED OUT IN THE SPRING OF 20'S 19 WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BEGAN OUTREACH WITH THE COMMUNITY ON TECH EDITS AND SOME COUNCIL AMENDMENTS AND THAT BEGAN WITH 12 PUBLIC MEETINGS AND FOUR OPEN HOUSE. >> THAT INFORMED THE APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO EPC IN JULY OF 2019. AND THERE WERE FIVE SUBSEQUENT EPC HEARINGS, STARTING SEPTEMBER, 2019 AND RUNNING THROUGH UNTIL JANUARY 2020. THE IDO WAS TRANSMITTED TO COUNCIL. AND WE HAD THREE LUPZ HEARINGS IN JUNE -- IN JUNE AND ONE IN AUGUST. WE HAVE NOW IN FRONT OF US OUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING. IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020. SO, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE. THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL IN FRONT OF YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT. THE BIGGEST PART OF THE APPLICATION WAS A 124 TECHNICAL PAGE. THAT WAS EXHIBIT 1 TO O-20, A RED LINE VERSION OF THE IDO. IN ORDER TO MAKE THOSE TECHNICAL EDITS DIGEST IBLE INCORPORATED THEM INTO THE I DO. THE COUNCIL AMENDMENTS HERE AT COUNCIL ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE RED LINE OF THE IDO. BASE DOCUMENT. AT LUPZ WE HAD TWO PACKETS. PACKET A WERE AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED TO EPC AND PART OF THE EPC PORTION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IN ADDITION TO TO THAT THERE WAS A PACKET B AND THESE WERE A COMBINATION OF RESPONSES TO ACTIONS THAT THE EPC RECOMMENDED. RESPONSES TO DISCUSSIONS AT EPC AND ALSO IN RESPONSE TO ISSUES THAT CONSTITUENTS RAISED TO COUNCILORS IN THE CLOSE TO A YEAR SINCE THE EPC POLITIC APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AT COUNCIL IS BILL AS AMENDED. >> IF WE THINK OF EACH OF THOSE AMENDMENTS AS A CONVERSATION AS THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AS AMENDMENTS ARE VOTED ON, CONVERSATIONS ARE FINISHED, HOWEVER IT CAN BE RETURNED TO THROUGH THE FORM OF A NEW AMENDMENT. >> NINE WENT OUT TUESDAY AND ADDITIONAL WENT OUT AT THE END OF LAST WEEK. I'LL RUN THROUGH AMENDMENTS. I WON'T COVER THE NINE THAT WERE PROVIDED EARLIER TODAY. AS THOSE ARE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE NOT WORKED ON SO I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM BUT I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THEM. I PREFER TO DEFER TO THE SPONSOR ON THOSE. >> THE FIRST AMENDMENT, LET ME SEE WHY IS THAT NOT TURNING FORWARD. THERE YOU GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I WILL SHARE MY SCREEN THIS WAY. FIRST AMENDMENT IS C1. THIS ADDS DEFINITION FOR CIVIC OR ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT. THIS HAS COME UP THROUGH DISCUSSION ABOUT CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. IT IS HOWEVER A TERM USED -- IT IS A TERM USED IN THE IDO IN SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS BUT IT IS NOT CURRENTLY DEFINED. AMENDMENT C1 ADDS A DEFINITION FOR THAT. AMENDMENT C2 UPDATES THE EXISTING CUMULATIVE IMPACTS AMENDMENT BY MAKING ON SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES AND PROPOSES REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW TO DO A CUMULATIVE IMPACT ANALYSIS. AMENDMENT C3 INCREASES THE REQUIRED USABLE OPEN SPACE AND MULTI ZONE DISTRICTS CITY WIDE. INCREASES IT BY BEDROOM SIZE IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH EXISTING USABLE OPEN SPACE IS ALSO BASED ON BEDROOM SIZE. IDEA BEING MORE BEDROOMS THE MORE PEOPLE, THE MORE USABLE OPEN SPACE YOU MIGHT NEED. AMENDMENT C FOR MAKING LIQUOR RETAIL A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE MIXED USE MEDIUM ZONE. AMENDMENT C5 ADDS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE URBAN CENTER MAIN STREET AND PREMIUM TRANSIT AREA AND OUTDOOR SEATING AND GATHERING AREA IS PROVIDED IN LIEU OF THE BUILDING FRONTAGE. IT REQUIRES A THREE FOOT WALL AND TREES, 20 FEET ON CENTER. IF IT IS LOCATED BETWEEN PARKING AND SIDEWALK AREA. THIS IS INTENDED TO BUFFER THE DINING AREA AND PROVIDE A SENSE OF BUILDING TO THE STREET SIDE. C6 REQUIRES A NOTICE FORM OR TEMPLATE FOR ALL NOTICES AND PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES FOR POST SUBMITTAL FACILITATED MEETINGS. AMENDMENT C7 REVISES THE BASHED WE ARE AMENDMENT THAT PASSED AT LUNTS. THIS SEPARATES OUT MIXED USE FROM RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICTS AND APPLIES SUNSET ONLY TO MIXED USE ZONE DISTRICTS AND NOT RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICTS. IT IS INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T UNDUE PROHIBITIONS ON BASHED AND RAISER WE ARE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICTS FROM 2012. AMENDMENT C8 IS A TECHNICAL EDIT. IT HAS GOT THREE ITEMS IN IT. THAT HAVE COME UP JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. AMENDMENT C9 RETURNS A TRANSIT PARKING REDUCTION FROM THE OLD ZONE CODE THAT APPLIES TO THE 10% REDUCTION FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN 330 FEET A TRANSIT STOP. AND THE LAST ONE ADDS SOME POLICY LANGUAGE TO THE PURPOSE PORTION OF THE IDO. TO PROTECT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDER SERVED AND PROMOTES THE SUPPORT OF SMALL SCALE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I WILL WRAP UP MY PRESENTATION AND POP MYSELF ON MUTE BUT WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >> Coun. Davis: VERY WELL DONE. YOUR EXCELLENT BALANCER. GLAD YOU HAVE HELP. >> MS. SCHULTZ, ANYTHING TO ADD? >> SCHULTZ: NOT AT THIS POINT JUST HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT ARISE BEFORE THE DEFERRAL. >> Coun. Davis: THANK YOU. >> WE ARE BACK ON YOUR AMENDMENT FOR DEFERRAL. IT SEEMS TO ME CONSENSUS IS WE DO A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 3:00 P.M. TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE IDO ISSUES SO WE DON'T ADD TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> Coun. Benton: I'LL TAKE THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION. >> Coun. Davis: MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE FULL CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 3:00 P.M. FOR THE IDO. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. >> WE JUST DID IT AS FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. SEEING NONE. WOULD YOU TAKE THE VOTE ON THAT PLEASE. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> O-10 DEFERRED TO WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16, SPECIAL MEETING AT 3:00 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >> O9 IS RELATED. DO WE NEED TO DO AS WELL. >> Coun. Benton: IF THE COUNCIL WOULD AGREE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS ONLY OTHER ITEM ON THE SPECIAL MEETING AGENDA. SO, I'LL MOVE A DEFERRAL OF THAT AND SEE HOW THIS GOES. TO THAT SAME SPECIAL MEETING A WEEK FROM TONIGHT. LET'S NOT SAY TONIGHT. >> Coun. Davis: SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. MULTIPLE SECONDS. I SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION. >> Councilor Bassan: YES. >> Coun. Benton: YES. >> Coun. Borrego: YES. >> Coun. Gibson: YES. >> Coun. Harris: YES. >> Coun. Jones: YES. >> Coun. Pena: YES. >> Coun. Sena: YES. >> Coun. Davis: YES. >> DEFERRED AS WELL TO SPECIAL MEETING. >> Coun. Davis: AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO WORK OUT DETAILS. WE DON'T NORMALLY DO PUBLIC COMMENT IF FACTS RULES PROHIBIT THAT AT SPECIAL MEETING. I HAVE ASKED MS. ORTEGA AND STAFF BECAUSE IT IS IDO, TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW FOLKS TO SIGN UP FOR THAT ON ASSUMPTION THAT WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW THE SAME 15 PEOPLE. BECAUSE IT IS IDO AND WE HAVE NEW AMENDMENTS. PUTTING THAT OUT AS OUR EXPECTATION. THERE WILL BE NO NEW INTRODUCTIONS AT SPECIAL MEETINGS. DO OUR BEST TO BE SURE AMENDMENTS GET IN SO EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SEE THEM. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW MEETINGS ARE GETTING LONG, WE CAN TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE DAYS WE MAY HAVE TO STARTED AING EXTRAS BUT WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND STICKING WITH US. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, COUNCILOR PENA. THIS IS NOT THE BEST ANNIVERSARY PARTY I HAVE EVER BEEN TO BUT, YOU KNOW. (MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:00 P.M.)