. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT AS MONDAY FEBRUARY 26, 2024. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO IS HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WAS WITH US THIS EVENING AND THANK YOU EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME ONLINE. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE DO. IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL COUNCIL WE DOVE INTO OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING. I JUST WANT TO START TONIGHT BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE THE HEARTBREAKING EVENTS IN DEVASTATING LOSS JUST TO OURSELVES WITH OUR NEIGHBORS IN BURNSVILLE. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT MAYOR ELIZABETH COUTTS IN BURNSVILLE AND HAVE EXPRESSED THE FULL CONDOLENCES OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON NOT ONLY THE CITY BUT THE RESIDENTS OF BURNSVILLE AS WELL. AND WE OBVIOUSLY WE MOURN THE DEVASTATING LOSS OF OFFICERS PAUL ALLEN STRAND AND MATTHEW RUBY PARAMEDIC ADAM FINN SETH THEY WERE THEY WERE HEROES PLAIN AND SIMPLE KILLED PROTECTING THE LIVES OF CHILDREN AND WE MOURN THEM AS THERE ARE ACROSS MINNESOTA. FLAGS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON ARE AT HALF STAFF. AND OUR HEARTS GO OUT TO BURNSVILLE FOR FOR EVERYTHING. AND I DO WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT WHEN WHEN THE CALL CAME OUT FOR HELP FROM NEIGHBORS, BLOOMINGTON RESPONDED OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE, OUR CITY STAFF WENT DOWN AND HELPED IN A VARIETY OF WAYS FRANKLY CONTINUE TO HELP. AND I'M PROUD OF THEM FOR DOING THAT. I REALLY AM. AND IT THEY DID IT WITHOUT HESITATION THEY DID IT ON A SUNDAY MORNING AND THEY WERE THERE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF THE. IT SHOWED MORE THAN ANYTHING I THINK THAT THIS IS BLOOMING IN MINNESOTA AS A SMALL TOWN JUST IN GENERAL. BUT THE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA IS A VERY SMALL TOWN. THERE ARE CONNECTIONS. EVERYBODY KNOWS EACH OTHER. THEY WORK TOGETHER FREQUENTLY AND FRANKLY THEY TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. AND I'M PROUD OF POLICE AND I'M PROUD OF OUR FIRE AND AND PROUD OF OUR CITY STAFF FOR THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT THEY SHOWED AND THE WORK THAT THEY DID BUT ALSO PROUD OF THE EMPATHY THAT THEY SHOWED AND THE CONCERN FOR THEIR THEIR COLLEAGUES AND THAT THEY HAVE SHOWED AND THAT CONTINUE TO SHOW. I SENT AN EMAIL TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS ASSURED THEM THAT ALL OF BLOOMINGTON STOOD WITH THEM IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME AND THANKED THEM FOR THEIR BRAVERY AND THE DEDICATION THAT THEY DEMONSTRATE EVERY SINGLE DAY IN OFTEN DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. AND I MEAN THEIR THEIR STRENGTH AND THEIR RESILIENCE DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED. AND I HOPE I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL IN BLOOMINGTON AND THANKING THEM AND CONGRATULATING THEM FOR ALL THAT THEY'VE DONE OVER THE PAST DAYS AND FRANKLY THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO EVERY DAY IN BLOOMINGTON AND ON. AND VERY, VERY PROUD OF THEM. AND FINALLY I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T FORGET THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILY OF INVOLVED IN THE DOMESTIC ABUSE SITUATION THAT WAS OCCURRING THAT PROMPTED THE POLICE CALL IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THIS PLACE THIS WORLD SAFER FOR EVERYONE. AND WE CANNOT FORGET THEM AND WE CANNOT FORGET THE TRAUMA THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AS WELL. SO EVERYBODY HERE AND EVERYBODY WATCHING AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES AND EVERYBODY ELSE IF YOU SEE AN OFFICER IF YOU SEE SOMEBODY IN BLUE OR SOMEBODY FROM OUR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. THANK THEM FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. AND AS I SAID THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING SOUTH OF THE RIVER NOW FOR MORE THAN A WEEK AND WILL CONTINUE TO HELP OUT WHERE THEY NEED TO. AND I'M PROUD TO TO EXTEND THAT TO THE CITY OF BURNSVILLE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. SO JUST WANTED TO DO THAT VERY QUICKLY. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THIS BEING THEIR FIRST TIME TOGETHER SINCE THAT TIME I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID THAT. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT OFFICIAL BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE HAVE UNDER INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION I LOVE TO READ MONTH HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE REGARDING THE HENNEPIN COUNTY LIBRARY PROGRESS PROJECT THAT'S UNDERWAY. GOING TO HEAR THE ANNUAL REPORT AND THE 2024 WORKPLAN FROM OUR HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING AND THEY'RE WE'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS STRATEGIC PLAN AND DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS WORKPLAN. OUR CONSENT BUSINESS HAS 12 ITEMS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER FOR TAKING THAT ON. UNDER HEARINGS AND RESOLUTIONS WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ITEM 4.1 IS REGARDING THE CONVEYANCE OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO, THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONS. THE SECOND IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON CODE AMENDMENTS AND OUR SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATE WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING SEEMINGLY I THINK FOREVER NOW. AND THEN FINALLY UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WE'LL GET AN UPDATE ON OUR BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS AND WE'LL WRAP UP THE MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND UPDATES. SO COUNCIL UNLESS THERE ARE ANY CHANGES ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I WILL MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO POINT OUT THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS NOT WITH US. HE'S ON THE SCREEN SIDEWAYS WHICH IS INTERESTING RIGHT NOW BUT THAT'S BETTER THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. NOPE, NOPE. THERE YOU GOT IT. PERFECT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ALL OF OUR VOTES TONIGHT VIA ROLL CALL. SO I WILL SAY WE'VE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THIS PRESSER. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. HI, COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT COUNCILMEMBER I. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND MAYOR BUSSEY I. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. WE HAVE AN AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU MUCH. OUR FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS A PROCLAMATION AND I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO THE DESK WHERE THIS GOES TO STAY THERE. THAT'S RIGHT. SORRY. I'M JUST SUPPOSED TO MOVE THAT . TONIGHT'S PROCLAMATION IS I LOVE TO READ MONTH IS MARCH 2024 AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS FROM BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE. THERE THEY ARE. COME ON UP AND JOIN ME IF YOU COULD PLEASE GOT MARY KLEMSKI AND EMILY LAMBRECHT. THEY ARE BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS MEDIA SPECIALIST EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION WILL PRESENTED TO YOU AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, JUMP RIGHT IN . OKAY. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. PROCLAMATION FOR I LOVE TO READ MONTH WHICH IS MARCH 2024. WHEREAS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECOGNIZES VALUE OF LITERACY TO OUR COMMUNITY AND. WHEREAS THE ABILITY TO READ, WRITE AND COMMUNICATE IS EMPOWERING. AND. WHEREAS COMMUNICATION PROVIDES A BASIS FOR WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE LIVE TOGETHER AND INTERACT WITH THE WORLD. AND. WHEREAS READING IS ASSOCIATED WITH EARLY CHILDHOOD AND DEVELOPMENT HELPING CHILDREN TO LEARN SOUNDS, WORDS AND LANGUAGE EXPAND LITERACY SKILLS AND DEVELOPING THE ABILITY TO FOCUS CONCERATE, SOCIALIZE AND COMMUNICATE. AND. WHEREAS, THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON FIRMLY COMMITTED TO PROMOTING READING AS A CATALYST FOR ACADEMIC SUCCESS, PREPARATION FOR AMERICA'S JOBS OF THE FUTURE AND AN ABILITY TO COMPETE IN A GLOBAL ECONOMY ALL WHICH STAND TO STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITY. AND. WHEREAS OUR COMMUNITY CELEBRATES THE JOY OF READING AND EMBRACES THE IMPORTANCE OF TWO OF ACCESS TO DIVERSE BOOKS FOSTERING A LOVE FOR LEARNING DESPITE CHALLENGES AND. WHEREAS THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON RECOGNIZE AND EMBRACE THE NATIONAL READING MONTH THEME OF CREATE AND CELEBRATE A NATION OF DIVERSE READERS AND NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE TO BLESS YOU DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCH 2024 TO BE I LOVE TO READ MONTH IN BLOOMINGTON AND COMMEND ITS OBSERVANCE TO ALL RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DATA THIS 26TH DAY OF FEBRUARY 2024 VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE THIS EVENING AND AS READ THIS AS WE AS WE ISSUE THIS PROCLAMATION AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS I WANT EVERYBODY THE IN THE AUDIENCE TO THINK ABOUT THE LAST BOOK YOU READ WHAT WAS THE LAST BOOK THAT YOU READ COUNCIL WHAT WAS THE LAST BOOK THAT YOU READ? THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IN OUR BUSY LIVES ARE WORLD SOMETIMES GETS PUSHED TO THE SIDE AND I REMEMBER SAYING ONCE THAT I HAD ON A COFFEE MUG THE PERSON WHO WON'T READ HAS NO BENEFIT OVER THE PERSON WHO CAN'T READ AND WE'VE GOT TO READ AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO TO BRING SOME AWARENESS TO THIS YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ARE SURE . THANK YOU, MARY BUSSEY AND THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THIS WONDERFUL PROCLAMATION DECLARING MARCH AS I LOVE TO READ MONTH AS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL MEDIA DIRECTORS WE ARE HONORED TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY. WE ARE COMMITTED TO FOSTERING A LOVE FOR READING AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO DIVERSE BOOKS FOR ALL OUR STUDENTS TOGETHER. LET'S THE JOY OF BREATHING AND EMPOWER OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH LITERACY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COMING INTO THE PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO GET A PICTURE WE'RE GOING TO GET A GRIP AGAIN POWERFUL CAMERA. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD TO YOU. ONE MORE. OKAY. ONE TWO THREE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT . SO COUNSEL, NOW THAT I'VE WE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THE LAST BOOKS THAT YOU READ, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 2.2 WHICH IS AND I SEGWAY AND ITEM POINT TWO WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON OUR HENNEPIN COUNTY LIBRARY PROJECT THAT IS UNDERWAY I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HERE HOLD ON. I YOUR NAME I PROMISE I DO I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK PRONOUNCING IT YOU'RE LIZ. I AM LIZ REDUCE CO FOR THE DERECHO. THANK YOU I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY EVENING COUNCIL MEMBER I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT A GREAT SEGWAY INTO WHAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT TODAY MY NAME IS LIZ THE DERECHO AS I MENTIONED I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER SOUTHDALE LIBRARY AND I AM ALSO THE LIBRARY TEAM IN OUR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DIVISION, OUR FACILITIES SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'M ALSO HERE WITH DISTRICT FIVE COMMISSIONER DEBBIE PATEL AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. COULD I ASK YOU A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE OR PULL IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU TO MAKE SURE? YES, WE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR HOW IS THAT THAT'S PERFECT. GREAT. WELL, I WANTED TO SHARE IN TERMS ME BEING HERE ALONE I REPRESENT A HUGE TEAM. I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON A BIGGER TEAM THAN THE SOUTH REGIONAL LIBRARY PROJECT CONSISTS OF MANY, MANY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS YOU CAN IMAGINE AS WELL AS A FEW DIFFERENT AGENCIES AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL. WITH THAT SAID, ONE OF THE AGENCIES OR PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH IS OUR TENANT WHICH IS THE DANA ARTS CENTER THEY'RE FACILITIES JUST OFF ACROSS ACROSS ROADS AND THEY ARE ALSO IN A FACILITY THAT IS COMING OF AGE JUST LIKE OURSELF REGIONAL LIBRARY. SO OUR AGENCIES ARE IN ALIGNMENT AND WE WANTED TO SEIZE ON THAT SYNERGY PROGRAMS PARTNERSHIP AND THAT EMPHASIS OF LEARNING AND EXPLORING WE'RE AT OUR ORIGINAL SE WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE IS ON YORK AVENUE AND BORDERS THE EDGE OF EDINA AND RICHFIELD AND IT IS ALSO JUST UNDER EIGHT ACRES. BEFORE I GET INTO THIS SCHEDULE I'M GOING TO A LITTLE BIT OF A REFLECTION BACKWARDS. THIS PROJECT HAS A LONG HISTORY. IT'S BEEN ON OUR DRAWING BOARDS FOR OVER TEN YEARS SO IT HAS A LOT OF HISTORY IT'S BEEN ON OUR ORIGINAL SITE, WE'VE BEEN OFF OF OUR SITE AND IS BACK ON OUR SITE SO WE'RE EAGER TO CELEBRATE A NEW MILESTONE THAT WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY BEEN ON. WE'RE JUST COMPLETELY IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE ABOUT A YEAR AHEAD OF US IN DESIGN AS YOU CAN SEE WE ARE GOING TO HEAD INTO CONSTRUCTION EARLY PART OF 2025 FOR A 22 TO 24 MONTH CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS WITHOUT BEING SAID THAT THIS IS A CRITICAL REGIONAL LIBRARY IN OUR SYSTEM HIGH NOTES IN TERMS OF USAGE SECOND HIGHEST IN TERMS THAT INFORMATION COUNTS IT'S OF INCREASE ALSO THE SIXTH HIGHEST IN PHYSICAL CHECKOUTS SO IT'S OUTREACH IN TERMS OF PROXIMITY TO VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES EXPANDS PASS EDINA IN RICHFIELD RICHFIELD ANOTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN EMBEDDED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF DESIGNS EARLY IN IS COMMUNITY AND AND THEN ALSO STAFF INPUT SO IN THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WHEN WE CAN STILL SEE SOME OF THIS SUCH AS NATURAL LIGHT ACCESS ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL AS JUST OVERALL WELCOMING ADDING THAT EDINA ARTS CENTER ALSO EMBRACES A LOT OF THOSE PRIORITIES AS WELL SO KIND OF FEEDING OFF OF THAT CONNECTIVITY ASPECT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT IS ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP IT'S THREE RIVER PARK DISTRICT AND THE NINE MILE TRAIL AND THIS PIECE IS A MISSING LINK IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM. IT IS A PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY FOR OUR METRO SOUTH METRO HERE AND VERY EAGER TO SEE THAT THROUGH IN TERMS OF HOW IT DEVELOPS SITE AND MOVING ON TO THE SITE PLAN YOU CAN START TO SEE THAT REALLY EMPHASIZED ALSO HELPED US IN TERMS OF OUR FORMATTING OF OUR SITE LAYOUT SO HERE YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTHWEST THERE'S A MULTIMODAL TRAIL AND PATH THAT SPLITS UP THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH SIDE WE PUSHED OUR BUILDING TO THE NORTH BOTH IN TERMS OF SOME OF OUR STRATEGIES FOR SUSTAINABILITY BUT THEN ALSO PRONOUNCE THAT CORNER WHICH IS OUR TRANSIT HUB. SO IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER MONUMENTAL PLAZA ASPECT AND IT REFLECTS OFF YORK SOME OTHER AREAS TO BE CONSCIOUS OF AS RIGHT NOW THERE'S LOT OF BARRIERS ON OUR SITE SO WE'RE REDUCING THOSE ALLOWING 360 ACCESS. SO AT EVERY POINT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SITE SOME OTHER INITIATIVES IN THE SITE THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WE'RE REDUCING THE HARDSCAPE SIGNIFICANTLY ON OUR SITE AS WELL AS SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORMAL AND INFORMAL PLAZAS SO CHILDREN'S AREA THE ART PLAZA AND SOME READING PLAZAS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THERE'S SEVERAL SEVERAL PASSIVE AND ACTIVE A SUSTAINABLE DESIGN STRATEGIES YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THEM LISTED HERE AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE WE ARE ALIGNING WITH P3 AND THEN WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO A LEAD PLATINUM FACILITY INCLUDES PEAVEY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT GREEN ROOFS I CAN GO ON AND ON AND I'M JUST GOING TO SHOWCASE SOME RENDERINGS HERE SO THIS IS LOOKING ON THE TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST AT THAT TRANSIT HUB THIS IS LOOKING TO THE WEST FROM RICHFIELD AND XERXES AND THIS IS LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST THAT MULTIMODAL PATH AND THEN LOOKING NORTH FROM THAT SOUTH SIDE. SO THIS IS THAT RESTORATIVE LANDSCAPE THAT IS HEFTY ON THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON THE SITE. NEXT I'M GOING TO A LITTLE PREVIEW OF THE PLAN LAKE LIBRARY REFURBISHMENT. THIS IS VERY EARLY IN DESIGN. WE'RE HEADING UNDERSTANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS FACILITY IT'S ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET AND BUILT IN THE 1970S SO IT HAS A LOT OF UPGRADE NEEDS AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE THE HENNEPIN COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN THAT'S BEING OVERLAID THAT INCLUDES SOME NEW STUDY ROOMS VIRTUAL CONFERENCING AND CONNECTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS IN LINES AS WELL AS UPGRADES TO THE TEEN AND CHILDREN'S AREA. ON TOP OF THAT IS SOME OF OUR ASSET PROTECTION STRATEGIES AND THEN THIS WILL ALSO BE AB3 INFLUENCED PROJECT AS I MENTIONED WE'RE JUST HEADING INTO ZION SO THEN THAT PUTS US ABOUT CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATING BEGINNING OF 2025 AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS W COULD TELL. THANK YOU DIRK. AND I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE COMMISSIONER CATTELL IS WITH US AS WELL. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING THIS EVENING. BEFORE I ASK THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS I DO I DO WANT TO SAY I'M A BIG FAN OF A YOU KNOW, A TRADITIONAL WITH WITH PILLARS IN THE ORNATE BOOKSHELVES IN THE TABLES AND SO ON. BUT TO SEE A LIBRARY TODAY DESIGNED WITH MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION IN MIND WITH VEGETATION WITH STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, IT'S JUST IT'S A NEW WAY TO THINK ABOUT A PUBLIC AMENITY LIKE A LIBRARY AND I THINK IT'S A NEW AND EXCITING WAY AND. IT'S ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHT THAT HAS GONE INTO IT. IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF OF CLEANING UP AND UPDATING IT BUT RETHINKING EXACTLY WHAT A LIBRARY CAN BE . AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE SEE THAT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON OVER AT OXBURGH IS EFFICIENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO TO THE OPENING OF THE SOUTHDALE LIBRARY COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK MR. MAYOR. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOW THE DANA ARTS CENTER FITS INTO WHAT WE SAW LIKE WHERE WILL BE LOCATED? WILL IT BE INCORPORATED THROUGHOUT AS ITS OWN SECTION ANYTHING LIKE THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US? SURE. OF COURSE AS SO CURRENTLY IN DESIGN WE HAVE IT AS ON THE SECOND FLOOR SO THERE WILL BE SOME SHARED SPACES BOTH IN TERMS OF THE ENTRY AND SOME OF THE MORE COMMON SPACES SO THAT WILL HAVE THAT TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO SERVICES AND PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE REALLY DO WANT TO HEPLER THAT LINE A LITTLE BIT BUT IN TERMS OF ALLOWING HOURS AND SOME OF THE OPERATIONS WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVISIONS THUS. THEY ARE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF OUR FACILITY CURRENTLY. YEAH LET'S REMEMBER A MOMENT MORE JUST A COMMENT YOU KNOW I JUST IT'S IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THIS A TEN YEARS KIND OF UPGRADING AND THOSE FACILITIES MADE IN THE SEVENTIES NEED AN UPGRADE SO MORE THAN 76 MILLION UPGRADES FROM WHAT JUST THINK IT'S JUST WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT THIS IS A COMING OF TIME HERE I REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A JOB I SPENT MY TIME OVER THERE AT SOUTHDALE GETTING SHUSHED BY BY THE LIBRARIANS AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND SO I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT A NEW GENERATION OF SOUTH METRO AND HELP FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY IN A DIFFERENT WAY IN A NEW NEW PLACE. I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER GO TELL ANYTHING TO ADD. WELL JUST JUST QUICKLY LIZ'S WAY TO MEEK AND MILD TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE CLIMATE CHANGE PIECE THAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS IS THERE'S GEOTHERMAL ALL IN THIS BUILDING THE ENVELOPE IS IS QUITE UNIQUE AND. WE'RE HOPING TO GET AS CLOSE TO ZERO NET ENERGY AS WE CAN IN DESIGN SO WE CAN'T SAY FOR SURE WHETHER WE CAN MAKE THAT. BUT THAT IS THE IS TO GO AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THAT AND AS WE REBUILD ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE KINDS OF ASPECTS AND CERTAINLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING UPGRADING THE PENN LAKE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE ENVELOPE FOR THOSE VERY REASONS TOO FOR ENERGY SAVINGS AS MUCH AS WE CAN I'M VERY GOOD ON THE MORE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO PROGRESS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD THIS THANKS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA COUNCIL IS ITEM 2.3 IT IS A REPORT TO THE 2023 ANNUAL REPORT AND THE 2024 WORKPLAN FOR OUR CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WE THE CHAIR OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION ANITA SMITHSON HERE. GOOD EVENING, MADAM AND WELCOME. THANK YOU. DO I GET TO DRIVE TODAY? ARE YOU GREAT? THANK YOU. MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL CITY MANAGER AND STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BE WITH YOU HERE TONIGHT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK THAT THE HUMAN COMMISSION HAS ACCOMPLISHED THIS PAST YEAR AND TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL FOR OUR 2024 WORK PLAN. FIRST I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS FOR 2023 AND OUR CURRENT MEMBERS AS WE START 2024 AND WE KNOW THAT YOU MADE THREE APPOINTMENTS EARLIER THIS MONTH AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW THE NEW MEMBERS OF OUR COMMISSION ONCE THEIR TERMS START AT OUR NEXT MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M FIRST GOING TO START BRIEFLY COVERING SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM 2023. OUR 2023 WORKPLAN WAS STRUCTURED WITH FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES STARTING WITH ANNUAL INITIATIVES. THIS INCLUDES ACTIVITIES THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION HAS ADDRESSED OVER THE YEARS NEXT OUR WORK GROUP INITIATIVES WHICH YOU APPROVED AND OUR WORKPLAN IN 2023. THE THIRD CATEGORY IS PARTNERSHIPS IN BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND WITHIN THE CITY AND THE LAST IS OPPORTUNITIES . THIS CATEGORY IS A LIST OF IDEAS THAT WE HAD WANTED MEMORIALIZE IN 2023 BECAUSE THEY CAME UP THROUGH OUR FACILITATED WORKPLACE CONVERSATIONS OR DURING REGULAR MEETINGS AS AREAS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE ON IN THE FUTURE AND INCLUDED ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, GROWTH AND CONNECTION ACROSS THE CITY AND COMMUNITY . FIRST I WILL HIGHLIGHT ONE OF OUR ANNUAL INITIATIVES TAKEN ON BY THE COMMISSION WHICH ARE PROCLAMATIONS WE RECOMMENDED EIGHT PROCLAMATIONS IN 2023 AND HAVE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD TO ENHANCE THE PROCLAMATIONS WITH INPUT FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS CITY EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYEE RESOURCE NETWORK GROUPS. IT HAS BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL. I THINK WE ALL COULD AGREE IT'S FUN TO SEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME UP AND ACCEPT PROCLAMATIONS AS WELL CITY STAFF AND WE THINK THAT THESE MAKE OUR PROCLAMATIONS BETTER. THEY MAKE THE COMMUNITY HAVE A STRONGER BOND WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT TO BRING US ALL TOGETHER IN THIS PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT WE TAKE ON ANNUALLY THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF IS THE OMAR BOND ROAD HUMAN RIGHTS. AND YOU SEE THIS SLIDE IS JUST A RECAP OF THE AWARD PRESENTATION WHICH WAS IN DECEMBER. SO NOT TOO LONG AGO JESSICA MARTINEZ WAS RECOGNIZED IN 2023 RECEIVING THE AWARD FOR HER WORK ADVANCING HUMAN RIGHTS IN BLOOMINGTON AND BEYOND THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WORKS CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF TO PUT OUT A CALL FOR NOMINATIONS TO AND THEN NAME A RECIPIENT AS WELL AS PUT IN A RECEPTION THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION SO THANK YOU ALL AND THANK CITY STAFF FOR ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT TO HOST THIS EVENT EVERY YEAR AND DO THIS WORK. THIS ANNUAL TRADITION DATES BACK TO 1974. ALL RIGHT. NEXT I WILL HIGHLIGHT TWO OF OUR WORK GROUP INITIATIVES FROM 2023. THE FIRST IS HOUSING. OUR COMMISSION SPENT TIME IN 2023 INTENTIONALLY LEARNING ABOUT HOUSING HOW WE CAN SUPPORT EXISTING CITY EFFORTS TO DEVELOP MORE EQUITABLE HOUSING CODE AND HOW WE COULD HELP RAISE AWARENESS AND SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR HOUSING POLICIES THAT MEET THE NEEDS FOUND IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE HOUSING ACTION TEAM AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING ENGAGE IN AND SUPPORT THIS WORK. WE HAVE ALSO CONTINUED TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE JUST COALITION OF WHICH BLOOMINGTON A MEMBER CITY AND WE'LL BE CONTINUING THIS WORK AS WELL INTO 2020 FOR THE SECOND WORKGROUP THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT IS OUR LGBT Q I A PLUS WORK GROUP. WE HOSTED AN EVENT IN THE SPRING WHICH INVITED LGBTQ EIGHT PLUS YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES TO CIVIC PLAZA FOR A CASUAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THEIR LIVED EXPERIENCES AND WAYS THAT THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY COULD SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY. WE ALSO ATTENDED BLOOMINGTON PRIDE WITH CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH RESIDENTS AND SHARE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND THAT THE CITY HAS HAS ABOUT WHAT THE CITY CAN OFFER AND WHAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION DOES DOES. AND THE LAST CATEGORY FROM 2023 THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS PARTNERSHIPS COMMISSIONERS HAVE EXPRESSED A STRONG DESIRE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS TO FEEL CONNECTED AND TO BE CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S MISSION STRATEGIC PLAN THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE CITY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEEPEN OUR INVOLVEMENT AND OUR CONNECTIONS NOTABLE PARTNERSHIPS INCLUDE BLOOMINGTON PRIDE, THE BOARD AND COMMISSION EVENTS AND NEWSLETTERS AND REPRESENTATION ON THE WELCOME TO BLOOMINGTON PLANNING TEAM SO THAT OUR LOOK BACK AT 2023 AND SO LOOKING AHEAD FOR 2024 WE HAVE TWO MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT ARE DOCUMENTED IN OUR WORK PLAN WHICH ARE INITIATIVES AND WORK GROUP INITIATIVES . ON THIS SIDE YOU WILL SEE THE NINE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE PLAN TO RECOMMEND IN 2024. THE NEWEST ONE WAS PRESENTED EARLIER THIS EVENING AND ACCEPTED BY ONE OF THE LIBRARIANS THAT SERVES MY CHILDREN. SO THAT'S GREAT TO SEE INITIAL EXCUSE ME ADDITIONAL ANNUAL ARE CONTINUED ON THIS SLIDE WHICH INCLUDE THE OMER OF ANDREW AWARD AND ADDITIONAL COLLABORATIVE INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE BOARD AND COMMISSION CONNECT. I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HRC CORRESPONDENCE AS WE DO OCCASIONALLY RECEIVE COMMUNICATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE. WE HAVE MADE A REALLY INTENTIONAL EFFORT TO DOCUMENT ON OUR AGENDA EVERY MONTH WITH ANY ACTIONS THAT ARE TAKEN OR UPS THAT ARE REQUESTED BY THE COMMISSION. THIS PROCESS HAS EVOLVED OVER MY TIME ON THE COMMISSION AND WE FEEL THIS PROCESS REALLY HELPS US BE TRANSPARENT AS A COMMISSION REGARDING THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVE BUT ALSO HONORING SENSITIVE NATURE OF SOME OF THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT COME IN WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH ALLEGED DISCRIMINATION. OUR WORK GROUP INITIATIVES FOR 2024 ARE SORTED INTO FIVE MAJOR CATEGORIES HOUSING YOUTH PARTNERSHIPS AND ADVOCACY PROCLAMATIONS. THE MUNICIPAL EQUALITY INDEX AND THE WELCOMING CITY INITIATIVE. THE FIRST WORK GROUP INITIATIVE IS HOUSING. THIS INCLUDES THE UPCOMING JUST DEEDS AND BEYOND EVENT. THIS IS OUT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AS WELL A FLIER THAT YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED TONIGHT. WE'RE HAVING IT ON MARCH 13TH RIGHT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY IS WELCOME AND INVITED TO ATTEND SO CHECK OUT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S WEBSITE. JUSTINE'S PAGE FOR THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING CONTINUED WORK ON A HOUSING AS A HUMAN RIGHT AND EXPLORING ADDITIONAL HOUSING ADVOCACY AND PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN SUPPORT OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HRC UNDER THE YOUTH WORK GROUP. WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEEK INPUT AND WAYS TO SUPPORT THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING OUR LGBTQ A-PLUS YOUTH AS WELL AS EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES SUPPORT YOUTH TRANSPORTATION SAFETY THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS LEADERSHIP ON THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. WE KNOW YOU ALL ARE DOING A LOT GREAT WORK ON OUR PARKS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS CAN GET THERE SAFELY . TWO ADDITIONAL WORK GROUP INITIATIVES FOR 2024 INCLUDE INCLUDE AS WE CONTINUE TO DEEPEN THE PROCLAMATION TRADITION AND ITS CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE MUNICIPAL EQUALITY INDEX THAT ALWAYS TENDS TO GET A BIT OF BUZZ WHEN IT COMES OUT. OUR INTENTION FOR 2024 WITH REGARDS TO THE MPI IS TO ASSESS THE 2023 SCORE AND EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES IF THERE ARE ANY THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE LIVES OF BOTH CITY STAFF AND COMMUNITY LEAVING ROOM FOR RECOMMENDATIONS IF THEY'RE NEEDED. OUR SCORE FOR 2023 WAS AN 85 WHICH IS A ONE POINT INCREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEAR ANTICIPATING THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION. THE LAST WORKGROUP INITIATIVE THE CERTIFIED WELCOMING EFFORT AT THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION BELONGING HAS INVITED US TO PARTNER WITH THEM ON SO WILL SUPPORT THE ASSESSMENT AND ADVANCEMENT OF THIS INITIATIVE AND LOOK FORWARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET STARTED AND INVOLVED MORE IN THIS WORK THIS UPCOMING SPRING SPRING. THAT INCLUDES MY FORMAL PRESENTATION SO I TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR COMING THIS EVENING AND FOR YOUR WORK ON THE ON THE COMMISSION. I SHOULD MENTION ALSO BY OUR CITY CHARTER REQUIRES US EACH YEAR TO REVIEW THE ANNUAL WORK, THE ANNUAL REPORT AND THE WORK PLAN OF ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND SO I THINK THE NUMBER THREE OR FOUR IN THE LIST I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE WE ARE ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW BUT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THESE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY STEPS FORWARD. ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS STEPPED FORWARD WITH THEIR ANNUAL REPORT FROM LAST YEAR AND A WORKPLAN FOR NEXT YEAR AND IT'S APPROVED THEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN LOSING MY VOICE TODAY LITTLE BIT SO PARDON ME AS I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND THEN I A SUGGESTION BUT IT MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE CITY MANAGER SO MY QUESTION IS SO YOU SAID WE SCORED AN 85 ON OUR MBA LAST YEAR AND SO I'M CURIOUS WHERE WE CAN I GUESS MAYBE DOCKED 15 POINTS. AND ARE THERE THINGS THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION IS DOING IN 2024 TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP? YEAH, WE COULD DO A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE ITEMS ESSENTIALLY WHERE BLOOMINGTON IS FALLING SHORT THAT 100 POINT SCORE WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM IS MOSTLY IN AREAS JUST SPEAKING REALLY HIGH LEVEL OF THE CITY AS AN EMPLOYER. THERE QUITE A FEW AREAS THAT WE EARN STATE CREDIT ON BUT WE DON'T EARN CREDIT AS A MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE WE AREN'T CREATING DUPLICATIVE ORDINANCES IN THE CITY LEVEL BUT WE GET POINTS ON A SMALLER SCALE FROM HAVING IT AS A STATE POLICY. SO WHAT I CAN SAY SO A COUPLE OF POINTS. THE ORGANIZATION THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN WHICH IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION THAT DOES THIS INDEX THEY HAD SOME CHANGES IN THEIR STAFF AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS A CITY LAST YEAR TO PROVIDE INPUT. THEY HAVE THE BASIC SCORECARD THAT THEY DEVELOP AND THEY LOOK FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT MUNICIPALITIES TO RAISE THE SCORE AND WE HAVE HAD AN AS A CITY IN THE PAST THROUGH THE COED TEAM HAS PROVIDED INPUT TO HELP FULLY INFORM OUR SCORE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTITY LAST YEAR BUT WE RECEIVED ONE LAST POINT IN ONE AREA WHICH WAS AGAIN PRO-EQUALITY. WE EARNED CREDIT FOR THE STATE BUT WE DIDN'T GET CREDIT FOR THE HAVING AN ORDINANCE BUT WE GAINED TWO POINTS IN ANOTHER AREA. AND THEN ARE JUST SOME OTHER AREAS LIKE WE RANK VERY HIGH IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES GET THE MAXIMUM POINTS AVAILABLE THAT'S FOR LIKE OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORTING HATE CRIMES THAT MIGHT BE BASED GENDER SEXUAL IDENTITY THINGS OF THAT SORT AND IN AREA OF NONDISCRIMINATION LAWS WE RECEIVE CREDIT FOR STATE LAWS BUT WE COULD EARN ADDITIONAL POINTS IF WE MORE LOCAL LAWS REGARDING EMPLOYMENT. HOUSING AND PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS. SO AREA FOR GROWTH THERE. IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE WANT LOOK AT. THAT'S WHY IT'S ONE OF OUR INITIATIVES AND IN SOME AREAS IT MAY MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY TO CONSIDER SOME THINGS. FOR US REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT ARE MADE THERE NOT JUST TO INCREASE THE SCORE NECESSARILY BUT TO ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT THAT IMPROVES THE LIVES OF YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON OR PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY. SO YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK WITH MORE. THANK YOU. THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL AND GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST LIKE SIMPLE LIKE A SIMPLE SCORING PROCESS. RIGHT. I HAVE MR. OVERBROOK CHIME IN HERE. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HOPING WILL HELP US IS THAT OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP THAT JUST FORMED THE PRISM GROUP IS FOCUSED ON SUPPORTING LGBTQ IN OUR ORGANIZATION AND I KNOW THEY HAVE MY EYE I BELIEVE THEIR NEXT MEETING AGENDA. TRACEY SMITH FROM COIT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE INDEX AND TALKING TO THEM ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE EVEN MORE. THIS IS ONE INDEX WHERE YOU KNOW I WAS AN ORGANIZATION I THINK WE DO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT TO BE PROUD ABOUT WHEN WE DID THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME I THINK IN 2017 OR 2018 I THINK OUR ORIGINAL SCORE WAS 29 OR 34. RIGHT? SO WE'VE WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE YEARS SINCE WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN AND I THINK THE PRISM GROUP AND THE IS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN SEEING IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE MOVEMENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION AND FOR THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE TOO. SO MY QUESTION A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO WE TALKED LITTLE BIT ABOUT WANTING TO EXPLORE A WAGE THEFT AND TRAFFICKING POLICY OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. AND SO I GUESS TO ME THAT SEEMS TO BE FUNDAMENTALLY HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE AND I SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE ROLE OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WOULD BE AS BECAUSE ARE MOVING THAT WORK FORWARD IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND SO MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER NOW BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER WE'LL HAVE THE FOLKS WHO ARE PURSUING BOTH OF THOSE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND TOUCH BASE, MR. TOLSON, AND SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT AN AVENUE OR IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE HRC WEIGH IN AS WELL. LET'S REMEMBER WOMAN. THANK, MAYOR. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK MY MY YOU REALLY QUESTION ANOTHER COUNCILMAN AND SO THAT'S GREAT . SO YOU HAD MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION JUST HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS FOR THE HRC CORRESPONDENCE PIECE. YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT THAT THAT'S LOOK LIKE OVER TIME AND HOW THAT'S EVOLVED. YEAH. IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I THINK YOU ALL WOULD AGREE THAT THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASED DEMAND RIGHTFULLY SO FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN GOVERNMENT AND SO WE HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM COMMUNITY WHO YOU KNOW MAY HAVE A SUGGESTION ON SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT THEY THINK THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO WORK ON BUT ALSO AS PEOPLE BECOME AWARE OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW WE'VE TABLED AT FARMER'S MARKETS AND WE'VE BEEN AT RESOURCE FAIRS HERE WITHIN CIVIC PLAZA PEOPLE HAVE COME TO FIND US AS A RESOURCE. SO WE HAVE EMAILS YOU KNOW OF PEOPLE ALLEGING DISCRIMINATION IN THEIR HOUSING, IN THEIR EMPLOYERS, IN THEIR WORKPLACES AND SO THOSE USED TO COME TO JUST AN INBOX THAT STAFF WOULD RECEIVE AND WE WOULD GET AN UPDATE BUT IT WASN'T FORMALLY DOCUMENTED. AND SO IN THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION INSTEAD OF JUST THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR BUT ALSO DO IT IN A WAY THAT YOU KNOW, DOES YOU KNOW, NOT NOT FORWARDING THE EMAIL TO TO EVERY MEMBER BUT OUR STAFF PUTS TOGETHER A SUMMARY OF THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR OUR MEMBERS TO VIEW OF COURSE BUT THEN WE TRACK IT ON A ROLLING THREE MONTH BASIS. SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE YOU KNOW, SAY WAS THIS PERSON ADVISED OF THEIR RIGHTS? WERE THEY TOLD WHERE THEY COULD FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT IF THEY DO FEEL THAT DISCRIMINATION HAS HAPPENED OFTEN LIKE WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RIGHTS THEN JUST TRACK AS A COMMISSION THOSE FOLLOW UPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BEING DONE AND THAT WE AREN'T DROPPING THE BALL ON SOMETHING THAT A COMMUNITY HAS COME TO US FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION INBOX CERTAINLY NEVER WAS A PLACE WHERE YOU KNOW THINGS YOU DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HAPPENED TO THEM. BUT WE WANTED TO BE REALLY INTENTIONAL AND REALLY TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY . SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AGENDA, ONE OF THE LAST ITEMS THAT WE AT EVERY MEETING IS TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THAT CORRESPONDENCE THAT IS IN THAT THREE MONTH ROLLING PERIOD AND THEN TRACKING ANY FOLLOW UP SO WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I APPRECIATE GIVING A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT TO GET MORE IN THAT OR YOU MIND, I'LL JUST SHARE THAT IN RECENT TIME WOULD PERHAPS BE FAMILIAR WITH THE UPDATED FAIR HOUSING POLICY CORRESPONDENCE THAT FORMERLY ENTIRELY WENT TO THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. ANYTHING ABOUT HOUSING DISCRIMINATION NOW GOES TO ALL RIB OFFS RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSIVENESS AND BELONGING. SO THERE NOW JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE FORMERLY DID ALL THE HRC CORRESPONDENCE AND NOW ANYTHING FAIR HOUSING RELATED DOES GO TO OR READ JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO JUST SMALL EDITION SO THANKS. WELL IT'S IT'S ALMOST AS YOU ANTICIPATED MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY NEXT MY VERY NEXT QUESTION WAS AROUND THIS IDEA OF THIS PARTNERSHIP AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. HUMAN HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN EXTERNAL FACING COMMISSION BUT NOW WITH THIS PARTNERSHIP IN TERMS OF OF WITH EQUITY AND INCLUSION I'M JUST WONDERING THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF YOU KNOW LIKE THAT ONE THING YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE OF THE CHANGE THERE. ARE THERE OTHER ITEMS AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION MAYBE KIND OF JOINTLY SHOT DOWN AT THE CITY AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW THE CHAIR BUT I'M ALSO VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE THIS TO DO SOME OF THOSE EXTERNAL AND AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS INTERVIEW ANYTHING PLEASE. YEAH, WE LIKE I SAID PARTNERSHIPS HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO WE ARE NOT EXPERTS AND WE'RE VOLUNTEERS RIGHT. BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN THAT HELP SUPPORT THE CITY'S MISSION AND WE APPRECIATE OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE. THE LAST EXAMPLE THAT I GAVE FROM OUR WORK PLAN IS THE WELCOMING CITIES INITIATIVE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS BEING LED BY THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY INCLUSION AND BELONGING. BUT THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON TOGETHER AND AND SO I KNOW THAT THE YOU KNOW, INITIAL PROCESS IS GOING TO BE AN ASSESSMENT MORE OF THE CITY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE HUMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS TO BE SITTING RIGHT IN THE ROOM FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT ONCE THAT ASSESSMENT IS DONE WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO PARTNER WITH THEM WITH THEIR LEAD AND AND YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP ADVANCE ANY INITIATIVES THAT MIGHT COME FROM THAT AND OF COURSE ANY ADDITIONAL ONES THAT MAY COME UP THE CORRESPONDENCE ONE IS OF COURSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT NOW GO TO OTHER OFFICES WITHIN THE CITY THAT AREN'T JUST FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PARTNERING WITH THEM SO AS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE IT FOR THE CORRESPONDENCE ISSUE AT LEAST BUT ERIC CAN SPEAK TO THAT. SORRY ERIC I INFORMALLY HIS NAME HE CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY THAN I CAN. YEAH I THINK I THINK ADDITIONAL VERY GOOD. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PASS ON TO THE CURRENT COMMISSION AND YOUR NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS AS THEY COME ON BOARD. OUR THANKS THE WORK THAT YOU DO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK WE WE APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING BLOOMINGTON A BETTER PLACE. THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE. THANKS. MARIN COUNCIL COUNCIL WITH WE NEED A MOTION IF I COULD TO APPROVE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION'S 2024 WORK PLAN AS PRESENTED SOME SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO APPROVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION'S 2024 WORK PLAN. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS IS MASTER. WE NEED YOUR MICROPHONE. HERE WE GO. MAYOR BUSSEY, I COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I COUNCILMEMBER AND MOMENT COUNCILMEMBER. I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY GOOD. THANKS MUCH. AND AGAIN EXTEND OUR THANK YOU TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION . NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 2.1. ARE WE ON 2.4? WE'VE GOT AN UPDATE ON OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS STRATEGY AND OUR DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS WORK PLAN SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL AND STAFF HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE NOW HOW TO BUMP UP OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS AND HOW TO MAKE BLOOMINGTON THE GOOD THE GREAT WORK THAT BLOOMINGTON DOES TO MAKE IT MORE OUT THERE AND OTHER THAN TO BE LESS MINNESOTAN AND KIND OF , YOU KNOW, NOT PUT OUR HEADS DOWN AND SAY OH SHUCKS, BUT TO ACTUALLY BRAG ABOUT THE GREAT WORK THAT WE DO HERE. SO JANINE HILL FROM OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF GOOD EVENING AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR BUSSEY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC RELATIONS COMMUNICATIONS AND STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE DEVELOP WITH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT AND PRESENTED TO YOU LAST SUMMER COUNCIL STAFF, BUSINESSES, THE COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS INTERVIEWS HELPED INFORM THE PLAN WITH THE GOAL TO INFORM AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY AND BEYOND. THIS PLAN ALIGNS WITH THE KEY PRIORITIES OF THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW STRATEGIC PLAN AND WILL BE VITAL TO SUPPORT ITS MISSION TO CULTIVATE AN ENDURING AND COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE THE COMMUNICATIONS PUBLIC RELATIONS AND MARKETING PLAN IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING STRATEGIES BUILD COMMUNITY IDENTITY TO BETTER BRAND THE CITY AND ITS MANY ATTRIBUTES TO CREATE A STRONGER AND REPUTATION FOR BLOOMINGTON INCREASE OUTREACH BY BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE MEDIA TO SHARE STORIES REGULARLY TO GARNER ATTENTION THAT SHINES A LIGHT ON BLOOMINGTON STRENGTHS DEVELOP ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK TOOLS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND GAUGE SUCCESS DEVELOP PROACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS PLANS AND KEY MESSAGES FOR PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES. DEVELOP PROACTIVE CRISIS COMMUNICATIONS RESPONSE PLAN. CREATE BUSINESS ADVOCATES AND ENHANCE OUTREACH TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. IMPLEMENT KEY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIT TO CIVIL DISCOURSE. PROVIDE COMMUNICATIONS TRAINING CITY LEADERS AND STAFF AND ENHANCE ALIGNMENT BETWEEN COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT DIVISIONS WE DEVELOPED A WORK PLAN TO DEVELOP SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES LAST FALL. MORE THAN HALF OF THESE STRATEGIES ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. HERE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS WE'RE PURCHASING A MEDIA TRACKING SERVICE TO MONITOR THE STORIES ABOUT BLOOMINGTON ON TRADITIONAL MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA. THIS CAN HELP US CREATE AN EFFECTIVE PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN ALLOWING US TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE. WE'RE ENHANCING ALIGNMENT BETWEEN COMMUNICATIONS AND COED. WE'RE MEETING MONTHLY TOGETHER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER'S AND HOW WE MIGHT SUPPORT EACH OTHER BETTER. AND WE'VE DEVELOPED COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT PLANS TOGETHER SPECIFICALLY THE THREE MAJOR PROJECTS FOR BLOOMINGTON FORWARD WHICH YOU WILL BE HEARING ABOUT TONIGHT AND IMPROVEMENTS IN BRYANT AND TRUMP BALLPARKS IMPROVING FLOW OF INFORMATION AND STORY IDEAS EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT TEAM IS IDENTIFYING UPCOMING STORIES AT MEETINGS AT TIMES SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFYING CITY COUNCIL ITEMS THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO THE MEDIA CITY SEND MORE NEWS ITEMS AND REACH OUT TO COMMUNICATIONS ON REGULAR BASIS. WE CREATED A VIDEO FORM FOR POTENTIAL VIDEO PROJECTS AND I MIGHT SAY IT'S WELL USED. WE'RE DRAFTING PROJECT SPECIFIC COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT PLANS USING PROJECT MANAGEMENT MODEL WHICH IDENTIFIES INVOLVING COMMUNICATIONS EARLY ON AS A KEY COMPONENT TO TO A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. WE HAVE SEVEN TOTAL COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT PLANS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY JUST THE LAST FEW MONTHS. IN ADDITION TO THE AFOREMENTIONED PROJECTS PATCH WHICH IS A SMALL BUSINESS COMPETITION THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND INITIAL TALKS ON AN URBAN FORESTRY PLAN AND A FIVE YEAR ECONOMIC PLAN THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TOMORROW WE'RE CREATING ALIGNMENT WITH BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER BY TYING THE PRIORITIES THE PLANS TO ITS MESSAGES. ALL OF THESE PLANS INCLUDE INFORMING ALL OF OUR KEY AUDIENCES AND INCREASING RELEASE DISTRIBUTION AND CONTINUED FOCUS ON MEDIA RESPONSE. THESE ARE THE GOALS FOR OUR DIGITAL AND OTHER TOOLS FOR REACHING OUR AUDIENCES IN BLOOMINGTON BEYOND INCREASE BRAND AWARENESS IT MEANS RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF SERVICES FAVOR POSTS THAT ENHANCE COMMUNITY IMAGE BECAUSE POSITIVE STORIES ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DEVELOP AN APPRECIATION OF THE CITY'S INHABITANTS AND ITS AMENITIES. ENCOURAGE ENGAGEMENT AND SENTIMENT PEOPLE WHO HAVE POSITIVE POSITIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CITY ARE MORE LIKELY TO CONTRIBUTE THE CULTIVATION OF THE COMMUNITY STRENGTHS AND TO FEEL A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS WELL-BEING. THE ONLINE WORK UNDERWAY INCLUDES A REVIEWED AND REVISED SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY AND PURPOSE STATEMENTS TO ENSURE WE'RE ADHERING TO THE GUIDELINES WE'VE SET SHARING MORE PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS. PEOPLE AND ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING REALLY GOOD THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO HELP SPREAD THE WORD ALIGNMENT WITH BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER PRIORITIES THAT INCLUDE A CONNECTED WELCOMING COMMUNITY, A HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND A COMMUNITY WITH EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR ALL ACCOUNTS WE TRIED TO POST A MIX OF INFORMATION AND BEAUTY IMAGES AND THE THING THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT BLOOMINGTON AGAIN THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO AND CELEBRATE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE AND WORK. SO SPECIFICALLY HERE IS A SNAPSHOT SNAPSHOT OF FACEBOOK ,LINKEDIN AND INSTAGRAM. THIS THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NUMBER OF POSTS THE CITY PUBLISHED PER WEEK FROM 2020 THROUGH 2023 ON FACEBOOK YOU'LL NOTICE IN 2023 THE NUMBER OF WEEKLY POST WAS FEWER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. AT THE START OF THE YEAR WE BEGAN FOLLOWING A STRATEGY TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF POSTS PER WEEK AS BY OUR AUDIT SO THE GOAL FEWER POSTS MORE ENGAGING CONTENT THIS ORANGE LINE SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF POSTS EACH YEAR THAT REACHED MORE THAN THREE POSTS EACH YEAR THAT REACHED MORE THAN 3000 PEOPLE. WE'VE USED THIS NUMBER AS A BENCHMARK FOR SUCCESS AS TO WHETHER A POST GOT GOOD REACH AS THE ORANGE LINE INDICATES EVEN THOUGH OUR POSTS WERE FEWER OUR ABILITY TO REACH PEOPLE REMAINED THE SAME OR IMPROVED SLIGHTLY. IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WE TURNED OFF FACEBOOK COMMENTS IN APRIL 2023. IT WAS INTERESTING THAT A PERFORMANCE METRIC THAT YEAR ENDED UP BEING HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER YEAR SINCE WE BEGAN CALCULATING THIS METRIC IN 2018. SO EVEN COMMENTS OFF OUR POST PERFORMED AS WELL OR BETTER THAN PREVIOUS YEARS WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE RECOMMENDING COMMENTS OFF SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE BEEN USING YOUTUBE FROM THE START POSTING FOCUSED CONTENT ON FACEBOOK. BUT ONE WAY COMMUNICATIONS AS NOTED BEFORE THERE ARE MANY THAT PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE CITY. LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON DIGITAL PLATFORM, OUR WEBSITE FORUMS, OUR SOCIAL PLATFORMS AND OTHER TRADITIONAL WAYS CONTINUE TO ADDRESS ALL PLATFORMS AND LOOK FOR WAYS AND NEW WAYS TO REACH OUR AUDIENCES AND. CONTINUE TO USE FACEBOOK TO INFORM AND SHOW BLOOMINGTON IS A WELCOMING COMMUNITY AND A REMARKABLE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. WE'VE BEEN USING LINKEDIN FOR YEARS BUT HAVEN'T USED IT AS A SOCIAL PLATFORM UNTIL JANUARY THIS YEAR SINCE LINKEDIN HAS CHANGED UP ITS PLATFORM TO BE MORE ENGAGING AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO COMMENT, SHARE AND LIKE STORIES WE BEGAN TO TAKE NOTE WE HAVE FOUND LINKEDIN TO BE A POSITIVE PROFESSIONAL PLATFORM TO SHARE GOOD NEWS STORIES AND CELEBRATE THE CITY'S WORK SINCE BEGINNING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE HAVE PUBLISHED 22 POSTS THAT HAVE RECEIVED 25,546 TOTAL IMPRESSIONS VISIBLE TO OVER 16,000 INDIVIDUALS AND 835 CLICKS WHICH MEANS A USER CLICKED ON OR DIRECTLY ENGAGED WITH BLOOMINGTON'S CONTENT. THE CITY'S LINKEDIN ACCOUNT SHOWCASES ECONOMIC INITIATIVE PROJECTS AND THE PEOPLE AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROSPERITY AND WELL-BEING OF THE COMMUNITY. LINKEDIN CONTENT ALSO DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING UPDATES AND CITY JOB OPPORTUNITIES A PLATFORM FOR FUN LIVELY ENGAGING IMAGES INSTAGRAM TOOK A BACKSEAT DURING THE PANDEMIC YEARS BUT LATER IN 2022 WE TOOK THE TIME TO STEP BACK AND EVALUATE OUR INSTAGRAM PRESENCE WITH ALL OF THE DATA FROM OUR ONLINE AUDIT WE DRAFTED PURPOSE STATEMENT WITH CONTENT GUIDELINES LIMITING THE USE OF TEXT IMAGES AND USING THE PLATFORM TO SHOWCASE BLOOMINGTON'S BEAUTY AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO STARTED POSTING SHORT FORM VIDEOS OR REELS. OUR NEW STRATEGY HAS TRANSLATED TRANSLATED TO A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT OVERALL IN THE FIRST FOUR WEEKS AFTER DEVELOPING INSTAGRAM PURPOSE STATEMENT WE REACHED ALMOST 35% MORE ACCOUNTS HAD 130% MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR CONTENT AND GAINED HUNDRED AND 98 NEW FOLLOWERS. REELS AND STORIES ARE TOOLS INSTAGRAM HAS AVAILABLE TO CREATE SHORT VIDEO STORIES. HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THE FIRST IS A FIRST SNOWFALL WITH THE CAPTION HOW'S YOUR SNOWY TUESDAY GOING? APPARENTLY THE SECOND IS BOB THE PAINTER. OUR STAFF WAS AT NINE MILE CREEK AND CAPTURED THE REAL WE ENDED UP DOING A LONGER VIDEO ON YOUTUBE. BOB MATHESON LIVES IN MINNEAPOLIS, SAID HE'S COMING TO BLOOMINGTON CINEMATIC. HE'S BEEN COMING TO BLOOMINGTON'S NINE CREEK FOR 20 YEARS BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE PRETTIEST PLACES THAT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE . MM . I SHOWED YOU THOSE JUST A REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE SNOW IN MINNESOTA OUR NEXT STEPS ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON MEDIA RELATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE MEDIA OUTREACH SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY REPORTERS AND KEY CONTACTS, REACH OUT AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE AND PITCH STORIES, REVIEW AND REVISE, MEET THE CURRENT MEDIA LIST AND IDENTIFY SPECIFIC NEWS SOURCES WHO WANT SPECIFIC CONTENT AND USE OUR MEDIA MONITORING TOOL FOR ANALYTICS REPORTS, MONITORING AND STORIES AND TO CREATE COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING PLANS FOR PROJECTS TO INFORM AND MEDIA STORIES SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE NEXT STEPS IN ORDER TO REALLY KEEP THIS PLAN FORWARD FOR THE NEAR TERM WE'VE GOT A LOT IN THE PLAN AND WE NEED MORE RESOURCES FIRST RECLASSIFY ONE OR MORE POSITIONS TO ADD MEDIA AND PUBLIC RELATIONS DUTIES. CREATE AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO HELP WITH ADDITIONAL WORK AND ISSUE AN RFP FOR TARGETED PUBLIC RELATIONS AND CONSULTING FOR TWO YEAR PERIOD THE WORK WOULD RANGE FROM MONTHLY CHECK INS TO PUBLIC RELATIONS AND MEDIA OUTREACH FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS. WE WOULD LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AND USE THEIR ASSISTANCE TO GET MEDIA VISIBILITY BOTH LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE THEY WOULD WORK CLOSELY WITH COMMUNICATION STAFF AND STAFF. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING BLOOMINGTON FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND COMMUNICATIONS IS EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WE'RE EAGER TO IMPLEMENT STEPS THE STEPS THAT I'VE PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT . THANK YOU. THANK YOU MICHELLE. THAT COMPREHENSIVE, EXCITING AND ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE THE WORK AND THE OVERALL PLAN IN PLACE TO MOVE IT ALL FORWARD. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT. COUNSEL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER IVERSON AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YEAH, I JUST I'M JUST WONDERING WHY ARE WE NOT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ANY OF THE MEDIA PUBLICATIONS SAID THE CITY MAKES WELL COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR BUSSEY AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WE DO ALLOW THE ONLY PLATFORM RIGHT NOW THAT WE AREN'T THAT DOES HAVE COMMENTS AVAILABLE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING HIS FACEBOOK BUT WE AND ALL OF OUR OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS LIKE LINKEDIN AND NEXT DOOR AND TWITTER AND I'M MISSING ONE INSTANCE INSTAGRAM FEED SAID AND THEN ALSO WE A VARIETY OF OTHER ONLINE TOOLS THAT LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON WHICH IS AN ONLINE PLATFORM SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM WE ARE ALLOWING COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU SAY MEDIA DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING OTHER THAN SOCIAL MEDIA? NOT SOCIAL MEDIA. OKAY. SPECIFICALLY I MEAN I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF CONSIDER IN MY AREA BEING THIS BEING THE SUBJECT THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS IN THE CITY PAGES I TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. I USE IT ONLY FOR MATTERS OR PHOTOS AND CHANGE NOTHING ELSE BUT I MEAN EVERYBODY HAS MADE A GOOD DEAL OF PEOPLE HAVE MADE COMMENTS TO ME THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS IN THE CITY SITE. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHY NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN? YES MAYOR BEST OF YOU KNOW MR. MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO ASK MS.. HILL TO MAYBE GO BACK TO THE FINDINGS FROM OUR CONSULTANT HOW IT IS THAT WE USE OUR VARIOUS PLATFORMS AND WHAT IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ESPECIALLY THROUGH FACEBOOK AND WHY WE THINK THAT THE THE COMMENTING ON IS FRANKLY CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND COUNCILMEMBER VIEWS THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT IN APRIL WAS WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF NEGATIVITY ON FACEBOOK AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS IN LINE WITH BEING A WELCOMING COMMUNITY OF OUR NEW BLOOMINGTON TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN. SO WE DISABLED COMMENTS AND WERE MONITORING THAT TO SEE HOW IT AFFECTED ENGAGEMENT AND REACH ON THAT PLATFORM THE PLATFORM GETS LIKES AND LOVES AND OTHER REACTIONS IN ADDITION TO SHARES AND BUT OUR CONSULTANT HAD OUTLINED THAT I PUT TOGETHER AT THE BEGINNING I PUT A LIST BECAUSE I REALIZED YOU HAD NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE VERY BEGINNING AND I WANTED TO GIVE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF WHAT OUR STRATEGIES ARE AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES TO REALLY LOOK AT OUR ONLINE COMMUNICATION ACTIONS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE IN LINE WITH THE OVERALL GOAL AND PRIORITY OF BEING A WELCOMING COMMUNITY. YEAH, IF I MAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ONLY ALLOWED POSITIVE COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO ANY POSTING THAT THE CITY HAS OR IS NEGATIVE COMMENTS? I ALSO WELCOME AS WELL I MEAN HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND I'M KIND OF PROBABLY MISINTERPRETING THE WHOLE THING. I'M THINKING WE ARE ALLOWING ONLY POSITIVE COMMENTS TO WHATEVER THE CITY'S POSTING AND NOTHING NEGATIVE COMING BACK. I BELIEVE THAT BOTH COMMENTS ARE CONSTRUCTIVE IN MANY WAYS AS FAR AS NOT FOUL LANGUAGE USE USING OF THE COMMENTS WHETHER THEY'RE NEGATIVE I MEAN BUT WHAT IS THE REASONING BEHIND THAT ARE WE TRYING TO ANY NEGATIVITY IN REGARDS TO ANY OTHER PROJECTS THE CITY HAS THE POST OF MAYOR BUSSEY AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WE ARE WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE BUT WE DO ALLOW THAT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ON OUR OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS IT'S JUST FACEBOOK ONLY WHERE WE HAVE DISABLED THE CONTENTS THE COMMENTS EXCUSE ME AND WE'RE JUST USING THAT PLATFORM FOR, PUSHING OUT INFORMATION AND IN GUIDANCE WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIT THAT WE HAD AT THE END OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO LOOK AT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF THAT WE HAD AND INCREASING ENGAGEMENT AND WITH USING MORE BEAUTY IMAGES OF BLOOMINGTON AND TO REALLY ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE ON THE SPECIFIC PLATFORM WAY THAT PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND. SO THEY'RE POSTING THINGS ABOUT FOOD AND WE'LL WE'LL SHARE NEWS ABOUT TOP FIVE RESTAURANTS AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF BLOOMINGTON RESTAURANTS MADE THE LIST AND THEY'LL SHARE PHOTOS ABOUT ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT MAYBE THEIR FAMILY WAS WERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE DOING AND SO IT'S REALLY ENGAGING WITH THE PLATFORM THE WAY THE PLATFORM WAS MEANT TO ENGAGE WITH AND THAT IS HOW WE'RE GETTING MORE REACH AND ENGAGEMENT AND WE'RE USING OTHER PLATFORMS FOR FEEDBACK LIKE FOR INSTANCE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON TO GET FEEDBACK ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND OTHER FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE COMMENTS WE'RE JUST USING FACEBOOK, SOME OF THE OTHER PLATFORMS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND. WE'RE TRYING TO USE IT IN A WAY TO BE IN LINE WITH OUR OVERALL. SO IT'S A LIMITED ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? JUST WHAT THE CITY WANTS TO PUBLISH AND PERHAPS JUST LIKE AND THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS YOU GET BUT NOT ANY SPECIFIC STATEMENTS IN REGARDS TO WHATEVER YOU POST RIGHT? MAYOR BESSEY COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YES, IT'S JUST THE COMMENTS PEOPLE CAN LIKE IT AND REACT TO IT AND, SHARE IT AND THEY CAN SHARE IT ON OTHER PAGES AND COMMENT ON OTHER PAGES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE COMMENTS ENABLED ON FACEBOOK AND THAT'S ALL PLATFORM, THAT'S ALL FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS WE HAVE POLICE FARMERS MARKET, THE MAIN CITY ACCOUNT AND PARKS REC. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. REID. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, I APOLOGIZE. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD BOTH OF THE DOCUMENTS TO YOU BEFORE THIS ITEM SO I'LL MAKE AFTER THIS MEETING THAT WE GET A COPYF THE PUBLIC RELATIONS PLAN AND SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIT THAT WE DID. SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO THANK YOU. YEAH I SEE COUNCILMEMBER AND AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION I'VE RUN CAMPAIGNS BEFORE AND I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK IT GOES INTO FILLING OUT YOUR CHANNELS OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO USE THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT YOUR PEOPLE ARE BEING IT AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S VERY LABOR INTENSIVE TO BE RESPONDING TO EVERY COMMENT AND USING THEM ALL IN THEIR SPECIFIC WAY DOES WEIGH DOWN AND SO THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS MAKING SURE EACH CHANNEL A SPECIFIC PURPOSE WHICH IS WHY I DO LOVE THE INTERNSHIP. I THINK THAT BRINGS IN A NEW PERSPECTIVE. THE YOUNGER GENERATION NEW IDEAS OF HOW WE USE SOCIAL MEDIA. SO I LOVE THAT IDEA BUT MY QUESTION REALLY LIES IN LIKE BENCHMARKING SO I KNOW WITH A LOT OF PRIVATE COMMERCIAL MARKETING HAVE BENCHMARKING TO FIGURE OUT ARE WE MEETING THE RIGHT LEVELS COMMUNICATION BASED ON OUR COMPETITORS AND THAT KIND OF THING. DO WE HAVE BENCHMARKING THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS MAYOR BUZZY COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER MOA AS OF RIGHT NOW DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE INDUSTRY INDUSTRY AS IN ECONOMIC OR OTHER CITIES OTHER CITIES IT IS DEFINITELY OTHER CITIES WE ARE WHEN WE FIRST UNDERTOOK A I THINK WERE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES ACTUALLY TO PUT TOGETHER OR HIRE ERIC HANSON AS CONSULTANT FOR OUR SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIT BECAUSE WE HAD REALLY SEEN A DECLINE IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AND ENGAGEMENT IN GENERAL THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THAT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO BLOOMINGTON AND WE FOUND BECAUSE WE HAD SEVERAL FOCUS GROUPS WITH OUR PEER CITIES LIKE DANA AND RICHFIELD AND WAYZATA AND EDEN PRAIRIE AND THEY ALL FEEDBACK THE SAME THE VERY SIMILAR FEEDBACK TO HOW WE WE WERE EXPERIENCING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SO IN SUCCESSION I KNOW EDINA RICHFIELD ARE NOW WORKING WITH ERIC HANSON AS A CONSULTANT OR HAVE AT LEAST COMPLETED THEIR PLANS AND THEY'RE SEEING THE SAME KINDS OF OF NOT OR DIRECTION AS NOT POSTING AS OFTEN USING THE PLATFORM THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED. WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF THE OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE PERFORMANCE IN COMMUNICATIONS. ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WERE PART OF THE STRATEGY IS WAS YOU KNOW DOING SOME SURVEYS AND JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW IF WE'RE REACHING OUR AUDIENCES WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION WE HAVE LOTS ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK ON ON YOU KNOW, FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ELSEWHERE BUT WE'RE IN REGULAR CONTACT OUR PEERS ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND ALL KINDS OF ISSUES AND SURE THAT WE ARE ALL IN LINE WITH HOW THE BENCHMARK OF OTHER CITIES ARE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU. ERIC, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. CAN CORRECT TWO THINGS. ONE, I SAW THE INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO THE BEACH. IS THERE ANY INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO ENGAGEMENT OR INTERACTION? I BELIEVE THAT FACEBOOK PARTICULAR TRACKS THAT. AND TWO PARTS TO THAT ONE DID WE SEE A REDUCTION ENGAGEMENT DURING INTERACTION BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE POSTS AND AND LET'S I THINK BE CLEAR THAT SOME OF THE NEGATIVE POSTS WERE NOT SIMPLY THAT PEOPLE DISAGREED WITH POLICY OR DECISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MADE. THEY WERE JUST OUTRIGHT PERSONALLY OFFENSIVE COMMENTS PARTICULARLY DIRECTED AT YOU MAYOR AND THAT WAS JUST DISRESPECTFUL AND INAPPROPRIATE BUT NOT THAT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS THERE. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS THAT IT WOULD DID WE SEE A REDUCTION IN ENGAGEMENT AFTER WE CHANGE THE POLICY. MAYOR BUZZY COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION IF I UNDERSTAND IT WAS THE REASON BEHIND THE FACEBOOK COMMENTS AND THAT WE WEREN'T JUST TURNING OFF COMMENTS BECAUSE OF THE SPECIFICALLY PETAH NEGATIVE COMMENTS IT WAS JUST OVERALL COMMENTS GENERAL AND WE DID NOT WE WE JUST WANTED A UNIFORM PLATFORM OR UNIFORM APPROACH TO ALL OF OUR OUR FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS AND IN FACT THINK THAT THE TIME THAT WE MADE THAT DECISION WE WERE SEEING LOTS OF ENGAGEMENT FROM PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF BLOOMINGTON POSTING OUTSIDE MINNESOTA IN FACT POSTING ON OUR OWN ACCOUNTS AND. IT WAS THE KINDS OF MESSAGE THE KINDS OF MESSAGES LEFT JUST WERE NOT REALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU SAID WITH REALLY WHAT OUR GOALS ARE FOR THAT PLATFORM AND REALLY OVER LIKE OVERRIDING THE GOOD NEWS THAT WE WERE PUTTING OUT. AND SO THE PLATFORM WAS USELESS AT THAT POINT WHEN ALL OF THE NEGATIVITY AND THE COMMENTS COMING IN THAT THE EITHER THE GOOD NEWS WHICH USING FACEBOOK AS A WAY TO HELP US WITH PUBLIC RELATIONS AND MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS. IT WASN'T HELPING US IT WAS THAT THE PLATFORM WAS NO LONGER OF USE TO TO US. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION DID WE SEE ENGAGEMENT GO DOWN IS WAS THAT YOUR WITH THE COUNCIL. OKAY I DO HAVE A SLIDE IF WE WANT TO JUST GO TO THE SLIDE MIKE ON A SALES SLIDE AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WELL JANINE'S THAT BACK UP. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WAS PART OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE ABLE TO TRACK REACH AND ENGAGEMENT GOING DOWN DUE TO THE PREVALENCE OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS OR IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE SEE THE REACH INCREASING DESPITE FEWER POSTS SORRY. SO JANINE PART THE QUESTION IS IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIT WAS WAS ERIC ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENT OF FACEBOOK WAS THAT AFFECTING IN A NEGATIVE WAY? HE DID OUR VERY BEST IN COUNCILMEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HE DID SAY THAT THE KINDS OF POSTS THAT USED BY USING FACEBOOK THE WAY THAT IT WAS INTENDED AS I MENTIONED FOR POSTS THAT YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY WOULD POST ON THERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE GOOD ENGAGEMENT AND THAT REALLY IS THE PURPOSE, THE PLATFORM. AND SO WE RECOMMENDED THAT WE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF POSTS THAT WE POST A BEAUTY SHOTS AND SHOWCASE THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND USE THE PLATFORM FOR THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED. SO DOES THAT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I THINK. MY SECOND QUESTION QUICKLY IS JUST ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION ON STAFFING LEVEL. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING IN ADDITIONAL FTE YEARS FOR THIS AND IS THIS A SHIFT FROM THAT RECOMMENDATION? THIS IS DIFFERENT IT SEEMS LIKE A SHIFT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIRM TO DO THE PR TYPE AND INTERN AND MAYBE SHIFTING INTERNAL STAFF. AM I CORRECT UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A NEW RECOMMENDATION THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE THE PRIVACY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCILMAN NELSON YES. WE MET TWO TO TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET OVERALL AND WERE BUDGET CONSCIENTIOUS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE NEEDS THAT WE ALL OF THE RESOURCES AND SO DECIDED THAT THE BEST WAY TO ACHIEVE THIS IS USE TALENTS AND THE RESOURCES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WE HAVE SEVERAL STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN REPORTERS BEFORE THEY CAME HERE BOTH IN PRINT AND MEDIA. THEY INTERVIEW ON A REGULAR BASIS BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNAL AUDIENCES. AND SO WE WANT USE THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND AND TITLES AND THEN THE INTERN WAS SUGGESTED TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE EXTRA THAT WE HAVE TO FREE UP SOME OF THE TIME TO DO MEDIA FOCUS AND MEDIA RELATIONS FOCUS AND USE AN INTERN TO SUPPLEMENT THAT PART TIME INTERN AND THEN GET THE EXPERTIZE ON WE'LL DO AN RFP WE'LL DRAFT WHAT THE MIGHT BE AND WHAT EXACTLY WE NEED AND DETERMINE WHAT COSTS AND YOU KNOW HOW HOW OFTEN WOULD WE USE A A CONSULTANT CONSULTING FIRM AND USE THAT TO SUPPLEMENT WE'RE DOING AND TO REACH WHERE WE CAN'T REACH AND TO PROVIDE TRAINING AND ONGOING SUPPORT AND AND THEN THAT WOULD BE FOR THAT TIME PERIOD THAT THAT SHORTER TIME PERIOD OF TWO YEARS AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT. MR. FARUQUI THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON A COUPLE OTHER FACTORS APPRECIATE JANINE'S EXPLANATION THERE. WE HEARD WHAT THE COUNCIL SAID LAST TIME WE TALKED THIS AND AND I'M WONDERING IF THE CONSULTANT APPROACH MIGHT BE A BETTER ONE AFTER TALKING THROUGH IT. JANINE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE BUDGET ISSUES AS COUNCIL'S WHERE MUCH OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION IS FUNDED THROUGH CABLE FRANCHISE AND I THINK MOST OF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAY OF THE CABLE FRANCHISE WORLD RIGHT NOW IS UNCERTAIN AS A MATTER OF FACT WE'RE GOING INTO FOR OUR NEXT FRANCHISE HERE VERY SHORTLY AND SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNCERTAIN ENVIRONMENT NOW. SO NOT ADDING, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT TIED TO SOME UNCERTAIN FUNDING WAS ONE THING THAT WE WERE CAUTIOUS OF DOING. AND THE IS RECOGNIZING THAT IS WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN THE CONSULTANT APPROACH THE INTERN APPROACH ALLOWS US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE NIMBLE AND FLEXIBLE TO ITERATE IF WE'RE SEEING THAT SOME THINGS ARE WORKING OR AREN'T WORKING THAT ALLOWS US TO PIVOT AND DO THAT ON A RELATIVELY QUICKER BASIS THAN IF WE WERE TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF FULL TIME STAFF AND YEAH ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE GOT COUNCILMEMBER MOON AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR SO CITY MANAGER JUST WANT TO CONFIRM SO WITH THE CONSULTANT APPROACH BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO REPLACE THE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER ABSOLUTELY NOT GOING TO REPLACE THE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY TALKED THROUGH AS IN I'M SURE THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH CONSULTANTS IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY ,IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RELIEVE EXISTING STAFF OF WORK, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE CONSULTANT'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING THEN THAT INPUT STILL HAS TO GET DONE AT THE CITY LEVEL BY EXISTING STAFF. RIGHT. SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO JANINE'S POINT AS WE CRAFT THE RFP WHAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING ABOUT IT MAY NOT BE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS MAYBE ON A RETAINER BASIS IT MAY WRAP IN SOME OTHER THINGS, MAYBE SOME CRISIS COMMUNICATION. IT MAY INVOLVE MORE STRATEGIC OUTREACH. RIGHT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CONSULTANCIES OR PR FIRMS THAT THAT MAY BE IN THIS HAVE RELATIONSHIPS AND PLACES THAT WE FIND HELPFUL IN NEWSROOMS AND YOU KNOW, EDITORIAL BOARDS AND THOSE OF THINGS THAT WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE IS THE PLACE TO GO AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE THAT OUT AS WE PUT THE RFP TOGETHER HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THAT CONSULTANT ON WHAT BASIS AND ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR DECISION TO MAKE THE FINAL APPROVAL FOR WHATEVER WORK THEY'RE DOING RIGHT WHEN I JUST ASKED THEM THE KEYS TO POST WHATEVER ABSOLUTELY I DON'T REMEMBER. DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. SO TWO THINGS. ONE, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM I HEARD YOU SAY THAT INSTAGRAM NEXT DOOR AND EX-GAY TWITTER WHATEVER THE HECK THEY CALL THEMSELVES THESE THEY ALL HAVE COMMENTS AVAILABLE TO THEM. IN ADDITION TO THAT, LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON COMPLETELY OPEN. WHENEVER WE HAVE PROJECTS WE SOLICIT FEEDBACK ACTUALLY WE DO THAT QUITE ACTIVELY IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY AND THEN IF I UNDERSTAND MAYBE ALL OF HAVE PUBLIC INDIVIDUAL PAGES THAT WE MANAGE ON OUR OWN THAT ANYBODY CAN COMMENT AND ALL PLUS WE CAN THEY CAN FIND US VIA EMAIL IF THEY CAN FIND US VIA PHONE CALLS ETC. I FEEL REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE SOMEHOW STIFLED COMMUNICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY TURNING OFF FACEBOOK COMMENTS. IT DRIVES ME CRAZY THAT. I CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT AND SO FACEBOOK THE FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE ARE THE ONLY TWO PLACES WHERE WE DO NOT DO PUBLIC AND THAT'S TRUE FOR EVERY ACCOUNT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL THAT RIGHT NEARBY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO YES YOU DO AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE GROUP CONTINUED TO ASSESS OF OUR ACCOUNTS AND ALL OF OUR PLATFORMS AND LOOK AT WHAT NEW PLATFORMS ARE OUT THERE AND WHAT NEW WAYS THAT WE CAN USE TO REACH PEOPLE AND AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE MAY BE PLATFORMS WE USE TO HELP HELP US MORE WITH PUBLIC RELATIONS AND MARKETING THAT COME UP THAT THEN WE'LL BACK OFF ON SOME OTHER ONES AND MAYBE NOT IT AS MUCH AND WE WANT TO GET THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN THAT SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN MINNESOTA IN , THE COUNTRY OF HOW PEOPLE ARE USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOW THEY'RE NOT USING SOCIAL MEDIA LIKE. GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I I'LL JUST SAY REITERATE YOU KNOW INDIVIDUALLY THAT TO ME LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON IS IS THE THE PLATFORM THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN IT SEEMS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SO MY NEXT MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE I'D LIKE TO KNOW I'D LIKE TO KNOW I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE COED VERY QUICKLY THE COED PAGE AND I KNOW YOU ALL WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER SO LET'S TALK IS A COED FUNCTION BUT YOU ALL ARE SIDE BY SIDE ON THAT. WHEN I LOOK AT THE STATS THERE I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THE KIND OF ENGAGEMENT MAYBE THAT WE ARE HOPING FOR. I'M WONDERING HOW YOU ARE ASSESSING OUR OUR ENGAGEMENT IN LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON WHAT YOUR BENCHMARKS ARE WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE SPECIFIC GOALS IN MIND FOR THIS COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT IS INCREASING THE ENGAGEMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS ERIC STILL HERE ERIC HOLTHAUS MAYOR BUSSEY AND COUNCILMEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ARE YOU ARE YOU ARE CORRECT THAT I AM NOT WORKING CLOSELY WITH THAT PLATFORM THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND AND ENGAGEMENT DIVISION DOES MANAGE THAT WE SUPPORT THAT BUT THEY MANAGE THAT ACCOUNT AND THEY AS YOU ARE AWARE ARE UNDERGOING THEIR OWN STRATEGIC PLAN RIGHT NOW AND SO MY GUESS IS THAT AT THE END OF THAT PLAN WHICH WILL BE VERY SOON THEY WILL HAVE THOSE KINDS OF THOSE KINDS OF MEASUREMENT AND ANALYTICS AND TOOLS TO LIKE LOOK HOW DO WE YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE ACHIEVING OUR GOALS ON THAT PLATFORM? HOW CAN WE GET MORE PEOPLE ON THIS PLATFORM AND HOW DO WE WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS IN GENERAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DRIVING PEOPLE TO THAT PLATFORM AND USING TO THE TO ITS BEST ABILITY RIGHT. A GREAT EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY THAT. I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON FACEBOOK BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE YOU KNOW, NOT RELEVANT TO THE COMMENT THAT THE THING THAT IT IS ANYWAY MOST OF THE TIME COMMENTS WERE ABOUT SOMETHING NOT RELATED TO THE POST ITSELF ANYHOW IT WAS JUST ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME COMMENT SO THE THE IT SEEMS TO ME THE CALL TO ACTION ON SOME OF THESE MEDIA POSTS, THESE SOCIAL POSTS IS TO TAKE THEM TO LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING HOW WE'RE PLANNING TO LIKE WORK TOGETHER ON THAT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE THAT I'D LOVE TO HEAR AN UPDATE AT SOME POINT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW OR WHATEVER THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, SIR. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I IT'S AN EXCELLENT JUMPING OFF POINT TO REITERATE POINT THAT JEANINE MADE VERY EARLY IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT APPROACH THAT WE ARE TAKING ON THIS AND HOW STAFF IS MORE AND MORE ON THE FRONT END INVOLVING COIT AND COMMUNICATIONS MAKE SURE THAT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TAKING ON NEW POLICIES WE'RE EVALUATING HOW THIS BEING DONE ON THE FRONT END BECAUSE HAVING THE TWO OF THEM WORKING TOGETHER IS GOING TO HELP DRIVE HELP FIGURE OUT HOW WE DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE LET'S TALK WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT TOGETHER ON THE FRONT END. AND SO I KNOW COUNCIL HAS HEARD ME SAY THIS AD NAUSEAM FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS THAT THIS PROJECT MANAGEMENT APPROACH IS LIKE MY WHITE WHALE RIGHT AND SO WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE. THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM JUST MET WITH ME LAST. THEY'RE VERY EXCITED SO WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH HERE SHORTLY IN TERMS OF SYSTEMATIZING IT AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE I THINK A PRETTY DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENT CITYWIDE IN TERMS OF THAT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. THANKS. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S JUST INFORMATION DISCUSSION HAD TO CHECK REALLY QUICK. WE HAD TO APPROVE THE THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA COUNCIL IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS HAVE 12 ITEMS AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER HAS HER CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT COUNCILMEMBER. CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY HOLDS UNTIL LAST CALL. OKAY. SO WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS 3.1 THROUGH 3.12 TAKING MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLAS SHANDRO TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS AS MR. MAYOR BUSSEY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO AI COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER I COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIED SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KER GOOD WORK ON THAT ONE MOVED ITEM FOUR ARE HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND OUR FIRST HEARING TONIGHT IS ITEM 4.1. IT'S A PUBLIC REGARDING THE CONVENIENCE OF HIGHLAND GREEN'S GOLF COURSE THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONS AND CULTURE, OUR PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR IS WITH US THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING MISS COUNTRY. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM HERE TONIGHT HELP HOST A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED CONVEYANCE OF PROPERTY OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT IF IT WOULD BE OKAY WITH YOU ALL I HAVE JUST A FEW SLIDES TO TO KICK OFF THE CONVERSATION THIS EVENING. I WILL NOT REITERATE THAT WE DISCUSSED BACK IN JANUARY BUT JUST MORE TO SUMMARIZE IS THAT CONVERSATION SORRY LITTLE THERE WE GO JUST LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND PRESENTING A LITTLE OF THE CHALLENGE AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS PROVIDES FOR THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW THE CITY OPERATED HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF AND DRIVING RANGE FROM 1974 TO 2020 AND THAT'S WHEN IT CLOSED DUE TO COVID 19. IN 2021 WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT TO OPERATE THE GOLF COURSE THAT HAS BEEN A SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP UNTIL THE FIRST THREE YEAR TERM ENDED IN DECEMBER OF 2023. ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS FROM CITY WHEN WE ENTERED INTO THE AGREEMENT IN 2021 WAS TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARK DISTRICT ABOUT THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT WAS NEEDED IN THAT FACILITY AND HOW THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED TERM. SO WE HAD A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND AS ALL KNOW THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT IS NEEDED THAT FACILITY SO THE CITY AND THREE RIVERS DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE AND WE BROUGHT TO YOU ON JANUARY NINTH A PROPOSAL TO CONVEY OWNERSHIP OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT. SOME KEY POINTS FOR FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING IF IT WERE CONVEYED OWNERSHIP TO TWO THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT THE DISTRICT WOULD MAINTAIN HIGHLAND GREENS AS A GOLF COURSE THE DISTRICT IS WILLING TO INVEST THE NECESSARY CAPITAL INVESTMENT THE FACILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY IN THE LONG TERM THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED TO AFFORDABLE RECREATION FOR PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. THE DISTRICT OFFERS A LESSON PROGRAM INCLUDING LEAGUES AND A YOUTH FIRST TEE PROGRAM TO REALLY TRY TO GOLF AND GET YOUNGER FOLKS INTEGRATED INTO THE GAME OF GOLF AND. THE DISTRICT IS ALSO INTERESTED IN CONSIDERING EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE OLD DRIVING RANGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL AT THE END OF JANUARY, STAFF I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO KEVIN , OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MELISSA MANASSEH. I HELPED WORK WITH COUNSEL FROM THE THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT DRAFT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT WHICH WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING JUST A FEW HIGH LEVEL POINTS AS IT RELATES TO THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT. IT'S INTENDED TO PERMANENTLY PRESERVE THE PROPERTY AS A PUBLIC RECREATION SPACE OR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR INSTITUTIONAL PURPOSES. THE PROPERTY AND STRUCTURES HOWEVER CAN BE MAINTAINED UPGRADED, CONSTRUCTED OR REDEVELOPED AS NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE NEW OR EXISTING PUBLIC RECREATIONAL PURPOSES . SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST MONTH WE DID A SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY COMMUNITY NOTIFICATION PROCESS. WE MAILED OUT POSTCARDS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 1000 FEET OF THE BORDER OF HIGHLAND GREENS. WE DID A LET'S TALK SURVEY, LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON SURVEY. WE DID A LOT OF NOTIFICATION AND THREW THROUGHOUT EVERYTHING THAT JANINE HILL WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT AND WE POSTED A NOTICE IN THE CURRENT SORRY I'M NOT WHY I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE CLICKER TONIGHT BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WAS NOT WANTING RESPOND TO ME OKAY JUST A LITTLE LEVEL FEEDBACK AS TO THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED ON ON OUR SURVEY OVERALL SENTIMENT THAT WE RECEIVED WAS VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. ALMOST 20% OF THE RESPONDENTS SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT THEY WANTED US TO DO SOME SORT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR PROHIBIT THEM FROM DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN A GOLF COURSE 90% OF THE RESPONDENTS INDICATED THAT THEY TO SEE A GOLF COURSE FACILITY MAINTAINED AT THIS LOCATION AND OF THAT 90% CLOSE TO 60% WERE SPECIFICALLY IN FAVOR OF THREE RIVERS BEING GIVEN OWNERSHIP AND 13% HAD NO OPINION ON WHO OWNED THE FACILITY AND OVER 20% WANT TO SEE THE FACILITY CONTINUE AND TURNED OVER TO THREE RIVERS NOT SOLD FOR REDEVELOPMENT. THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT MIKE WAS GOING TO CONTROL AND THEN HE LEFT AND WITH THAT I HAVE THE MOTIONS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR YOU FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. MCMURTRIE. ALSO QUESTIONS THE ONLY QUESTIONS HERE LET'S GET THE QUESTIONS OUT OF THE WAY AND WE'LL OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD AND. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION I SPENT SOME TIME ON THE PHONE THIS EVENING WITH THE CHAIR OF THREE ROSE PARK DISTRICT JOHN GIBBS AND HE ON THIS QUESTION OF CONVENIENCE AND WHAT IT WOULD BE USED AS APPARENTLY UNDER STATE STATUTE THREE RIVERS IS REQUIRED OR THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE AWAY OR OR SELL ANY PARKLAND THAT THEY OWN. AND SO THIS NOTION OF WHAT IF IT BECOMES YOU KNOW, IF GOLF FALLS OFF THE TABLE AND IF IT BECOMES UNTENABLE, WOULD THEY SELL IT FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE AWAY OR SELL ANY LAND THAT THEY OWN THAT'S UNDER STATE LAW. SO THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW AS WELL . COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR DID YOU FORGET TO PUT YOUR HAND DOWN FROM LAST TIME? WE'RE BACK TO COVERED DAYS NOW I FORGOT TO PUT MY HAND DOWN. WE ARE BACK TO COVERED DAYS THANK YOU. NO QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. THEN WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING THIS FOLKS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 4.1 REGARDING THE CONVEYANCE OF HIGHLAND GREENS GOLF COURSE TO THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT WITH CONDITIONS SOMEWHAT OPEN. THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING RULES FIRST OF ALL IF YOU IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT. WE NEED IS YOU TWO UP IF YOU COULD WE'VE GOT A SIGN IN SHEET THERE WE NEED TO KNOW WHO EVERYBODY IS SO WE WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU COULD YOU'D SIGN IN AND IDEALLY JUST FOR TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE SIGN IN BEFORE WHEN YOU'RE THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND THERE AND SIGN IN WHILE YOU'RE WHILE YOU'RE AT THE DAIS WE HAVE A SHOT CLOCK. MIKE, YOU'RE WORKING THE SHOT CLOCK TONIGHT. WE HAVE 5 MINUTES. EVERY SPEAKER GETS NO MORE THAN 5 MINUTES. YOU DON'T NEED TO USE THE FOUR OR 5 MINUTES BUT YOU HAVE NO MORE THAN 5 MINUTES AND WHEN IT HITS 5 MINUTES I WILL CUT YOU OFF NOT BECAUSE I'M A MEAN GUY NOT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE EXACT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THIS. SO 5 MINUTES TOTAL AND ONCE WE CONCLUDE THE HEARING WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND WE WILL DECIDE UP OR DOWN ON THIS MATTER. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ON THIS, PLEASE COME ON FORWARD. PLEASE . WELL I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SIGN AND FIND IS MARK NELSON AND CURRENTLY LIVE AT 99TH AND NESBITT AND I CAN VIVIDLY REMEMBER WALKING OUT TO HIGHLAND GREENS SOMETIME IN THE SPRING OF 1965 FOR MY FIRST EXPOSURE TO THE PROPERTY AND I FEEL VERY, VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT ALL SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN THIS PROPERTY AS A GOLF PROPERTY IT'S A DRAW TO THE CITY AS POPULATION GROWS THROUGHOUT THE METROPOLITAN AREA WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING QUALITY OPEN SPACES AND JUST THE FACT THAT THAT THIS AREA WILL BE PRESERVED AS IT IS INTENDED TO A COULDN'T BE ANY FURTHER PLEASED TO HAVE THIS SO I CERTAINLY URGE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS WITH ALL THESE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. NELSON. NOW YOU CAN SIGN IN IF YOU WOULD IF YOU WOULD JUST GRAB THE CLIPBOARD IS RIGHT ON THE TABLE THERE THANK OTHERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS THOSE WHO GO ON WILDWOOD I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE LEADING THE FIGHT TO KEEP THE COURSE AND I WILL TELL YOU I THINK DID THE DIRECTION YOU'RE TAKING IS THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME IN THE CITY THREE RIVERS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AND RUNNING THIS PLACE UNBELIEVABLE A LITTLE THING THAT IF YOU DON'T GOLF THERE THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION COULD NOT KEEP THE GOING THROUGH RIVER VIEWS GAVE US GRASS YEAR AND WHETHER IT'S TAKING DOWN TREES OR PUTTING A NEW TREES IS FABULOUS AND THE THING THAT WE GET NEW PEOPLE NOT ALL BUT A NUMBER OF NEW BECAUSE OF BETTER SIGNAGE MORE EXPOSURE MORE DIVERSITY YOUNGER MORE OLDER AND EVERY TIME I SEE THE SCHOOL BUSSES DOING THE CROSS-COUNTRY THERE AND TALK TO PEOPLE NEVER OUR JIM WAS THERE SAYING WHAT A GREAT SPOT FOR THESE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO BE DOING THE CROSS MEETS BOTH MALE AND FEMALE SO I LOVE THIS I KNOW THE I TALKED TO THINK THIS IS THE BEST THING WE GOING WE'RE GOOD THANK YOU MR. ZUCCO OTHERS GOOD EVENING EVENING STEVE LIPINSKI I'VE BEEN A BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT SINCE 1975 AND I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY SPEAK IN FAVOR OF MOTION I USE THE COURSES THAT GO ON AN ISLAND AND NOW I USE IT WITH MY GRANDKIDS AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD COURSE FOR KIDS TO COME AND PLAY AND I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION AS IT'S THANK YOU. THANK YOU OTHERS BECAUSE OF GOING MY NAME'S PAT REAGAN SO. I GREW UP IN THE MINNESOTA HEIGHTS COMMUNITY AND NOW MOVING HERE MY WIFE AND I CLOSE ON OUR HOUSE NEXT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY ONE OF THEM BUT WE'RE ABOUT THREE BLOCKS DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE GOLF COURSE. SO WE'RE JUST OFF OF NORMAN DALE AND TOLEDO. SO I'VE BEEN PLAYING THE GOLF COURSE MAYBE THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS BUT I GREW UP IN MENTOR PLAYING OUR LITTLE PAR THREE THERE SO WE WERE MEMBERS AT A GOLF COURSE THERE IN MENDOTA HEIGHTS. MY PARENTS WERE AND ALWAYS WANTED TO PLAY AT THE PAR THREE INSTEAD OF THE BIG GOLF COURSE BECAUSE IT WAS A MORE FUN PLACE FOR KIDS TO BE AND LEARN HOW TO PLAY GOLF AND PLAY WITH OTHER AND IT WAS REALLY MANAGEABLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE THERE. MY WIFE AND I ARE EXPECTING A BABY IN JULY SO IT'S A PLACE I HOPE I CAN BRING MY DAUGHTER UP, TEACH HER HOW TO PLAY GOLF AND SO I'M THRILLED THAT THIS IS GOING THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING AND I'M EXCITED TO HAVE OUR DAUGHTER LEARN HOW TO PLAY GOLF THERE. SO GOOD WORK AND THIS IS GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW BABY AND WELCOME TO BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU OTHERS WE'RE ALL FOR THE LAST CHANCE ANYONE WISHING TO TO HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS NOBODY IS ON THE LINE. COUNCIL WE HAVE NOBODY ON THE PHONE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT NOBODY COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK LAST CHANCE LAST CALL COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A DUE OH VERY GOOD IT'S LIKE BEING AN AUCTIONEER. YOU PUT THAT DEADLINE OUT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE COME. MY NAME IS DEBBIE KNUTSON AND . I LIVE ON WILDWOOD ALSO AND I TOO AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE GOLF OPEN. I LEARNED HOW TO GOLF THERE I DON'T KNOW PROBABLY 20 YEARS AGO AND NOW I TAKE MY GRANDKIDS THERE. THEY HAVE LOTS OF WONDERFUL LESSONS GOING ON SO THAT HELPS THE GAME. THAT'LL HELP PEOPLE PEOPLE GOING THERE INTO THE FUTURE AND IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL LIFELONG YOU CAN LEARN IT AT ANY AGE AND IT'S JUST I COULDN'T TELL YOU ENOUGH GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT SO I I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF KEEPING GOING TOO SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BE TO SIGN IN PLEASE. OH YEAH. SORRY AND I'M STILL HOPING TO LEARN THE GAME. I PLAY IT ALL THE TIME. I'M REALLY HOPING TO LEARN IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME. THEN WE NEED TO CONNECT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TWYLA BERGIN AND I ON WILDWOOD. I REALLY WANT TO KEEP HIGHLAND GREENS THE WAY IT IS. I'M A DOG WALKER FOR A FAMILY WHO LIVES RIGHT NEXT THE GOLF COURSE AND THE COMMENT WAS IF IT WAS CONTINUING TO BE A GOLF COURSE THAT THEY WOULD MOVE. THIS WAS THE REASON THAT THEY MOVED BECAUSE THEY LOVE HAVING THE GOLF COURSE THERE AND THAT HIGH RISES OR APARTMENTS. AND WHEN DO WALK THIS DOG IT'S WONDERFUL IN THE SUMMER TO HEAR THE BLACKBIRD SINGING BECAUSE IN THE CORNER THERE IS THAT MARSHY AREA. SO KEEP IT PLEASE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT COUNCIL, I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I AM 4.1 SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LONG AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS MISS MERCER YOU DO MAYOR BUSSEY I COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I COUNCILMEMBER AND LOMI COUNCILMEMBER I COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1 SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I WILL SAY WE HAVE HEARD AND I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN EMAILS AND I'VE SEEN I'VE SEEN THE COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS FORWARDED THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT IS DOING A HECK OF A JOB MAINTAIN ING AND RUNNING THE COURSE AND JUST THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH IT. I THINK WE CAN'T OVERLOOK THE FACT THE THE BENEFITS COME FROM AN ECONOMIES OF SCALE. THIS IS I THINK THEIR SIXTH GOLF COURSE NOW AND BETWEEN THE THE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT COMES WITH OWNING SIX GOLF COURSES WITH THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT COMES FROM BEING ABLE TO TRANSFER EQUIPMENT TALENT SUPPLIES OR WHATEVER BETWEEN THE COURSES AND JUST THE GENERAL KNOWHOW OF DOING IT, IT DOES PUT THEM IN A VERY GOOD POSITION TO SUCCEED AND THEY'RE TAKING IT AND THEY'RE RUNNING WITH IT. THEY'RE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT HIGHLAND GREEN SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN IT'S A WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A SMALL PART OF A LARGER OPERATION, A LARGER CITY OPERATION IT CAN SOMETIMES NOT HAVE THE FOCUS THAT IT NEEDS OR SOMEHOW NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE EXPERTIZE IT NEEDS TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT COULD. I WON'T DENIGRATE IN ANY WAY CITY STAFF THAT WORK THERE OR DID THE WORK THERE IN THE PAST TO TRY AND MAKE HIGHLAND A GOOD AND VIABLE AND A JUST A GOOD PLACE TO PLAY GOLF. BUT I KNOW THAT HIGHLAND GREENS IS DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S THEY'VE GOT A HALF DOZEN GOLF COURSES TO WORK WITH SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING THERE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON CUSTOMER BUT I'M I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF THIS. I THINK YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE HAVE THESE ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO YOU KNOW, BREAK EVEN OR BETTER AND WHEN THEY DON'T DO THAT WELL AND WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY WHO'S IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US, WHO SHARES OUR VALUES, WHO CAN DO THAT BETTER. I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SO FOR ON AN ECONOMIC FRONT I THINK IT'S GREAT. I AM EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY DO WITH THE CLUBHOUSE AND AND WITH THE GREENS WITH THE NEW TREES THAT THEY'RE PLANTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY'LL DO THERE. I'M HOPING THAT THEY'LL HEAR THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN EVEN WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THINGS RIGHT SO THAT THEY CONSIDER HOW TO MAKE IT A FOUR SEASON TYPE OF YOU KNOW VENUE THAT KIND OF THING SO I'M SURE JOHN AND OTHERS WILL TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BUT YOU KNOW IT WAS REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO SAY TODAY I WAS AT A FUNCTION KIND OF A SOFT OPENING FOR A WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS IN MINNEAPOLIS BEFORE COUNCIL TONIGHT AND I WAS SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WHO RUNS A A THEY CALL IT A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN . THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT. IT'S A WOMEN'S GOLF LEAGUE THAT'S LIKE A GROUP PEOPLE AND THEY CALL IT A LEAGUE BUT IT'S NOT REALLY AND THIS ONE WOMAN GOES AROUND AND FINDS PAR THREE COURSES ALL OVER THIS ALL OVER THE METRO AREA. THEY'VE NEVER BEEN TO HIGHLAND AND SO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO SAY TO THEM YOU REALLY SHOULD IT'S AMAZING AND ALSO IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER IF WE PASS THIS LEGISLATION. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT AND I'LL BE VOTING FOR IT AND YEAH CONGRATS TO ANN AND THE TEAM AND JOHN AND THE TEAM FOR COMING UP WITH A WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK. THANKS. THANK YOU. MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO JUST A QUESTION AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION FOR HAND HERE REAL QUICK. SO THE WAY THAT THIS IS COMPOSED I JUST WANT TO JUST BE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR THAT THERE ISN'T ANY WAY THAT GOLF COULD DISCONTINUE WITH THE WAY HAS BEEN ARRANGED WITH THIS THE WAY THIS IS BEING SET UP. COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN MAY OR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THAT CAN COMMIT IN PERPETUITY THREE RIVERS TO MAINTAIN GOLF. IF A HUNDRED YEARS GOLF IS NO LONGER A THING THEN THREE RIVERS WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY AGAIN REFERRING BACK TO WHAT MAYOR BUSSES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SELLING THE LAND WE'VE PUT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY. WE CAN'T COMMIT THREE RIVERS TO OPERATING THE GOLF COURSE FOREVER. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH, COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN IS THAT IS THEIR INTENT. THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY AS OPERATING AS A GOLF COURSE. IN FACT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT THERE ARE REGIONAL PARK AGENCY THAT WOULD NOT BE A REGIONAL PARK PER THEIR REGIONAL PARK STANDARDS IF IT WASN'T A GOLF COURSE. SO THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN OWNING THAT PROPERTY IF IT'S NOT A GOLF. SO IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFICULT QUESTION THAT THAT YOU ASKED BUT I HOPE THAT HELPS PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT. NO, I THINK YOU AND I THINK THAT THAT IS PERFECTLY HOW I WANTED YOU TO RESPOND TO THAT. I WANTED TO YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT I LEARNED HOW TO GOLF HERE AT HIGHLANDS AND I VALUE THAT COURSE AND OF COURSE OBVIOUSLY OVER TIME DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE AND CITIES AND THINGS NEED TO BE CHANGED AND THEY NEED TO BE DONE DIFFERENTLY. YOU KNOW, BACK IN 1974 AND I'M DONE WITH YOU YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY TITLE AND MAKE A STANDARD MY WHOLE COMMENTS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT HARSH. YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FOR $1,000,000 RUSTLING IT AWAY FROM THE MARKET TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO NOW THE LAND VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY IS YOU KNOW, 14.9 MILLION IN VALUE BY THE LAND ASSESSED VALUE. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CONVEY THIS ON AND SO YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AS A FUTURE POLICYMAKER AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS CONTROL OF THAT PROPERTY LONG TERM AND TYING THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN BE DONE NOW CERTAINLY WE CAN NEGOTIATE IT WITH THREE RIVERS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT DEAL AND YES THIS A REVENUE STREAM FOR THEM THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE. BUT WITH REGARDS TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES AND SOME THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT BEFORE US IN PAST TIMES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HIGHLAND GREENS AND ABOUT GOLF IN THE CITY IT HAS NOT BEEN A PRETTY PICTURE AND I'LL CERTAINLY IF WE CONVEY THIS OVER FOR $1 AND GIVE THIS TO THEM, I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL DO A FINE JOB. BUT AS I STAND TODAY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER I CERTAINLY SEE THE BENEFITS OF THAT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THAT GOLF CONTINUE THERE IN PERPETUITY AND IT BE THE CHOICE THIS COUNCIL AND NOT SOME OTHER BODY TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND IF THERE'S EVEN A SMALL CHANCE THAT THAT MAY NOT BE A POSSIBILITY OR THAT THIS BODY IS NOT DECIDING THAT I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A GREAT PLAN AND A GREAT PROPOSAL MOVE FORWARD. BUT PROPOSAL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE CONTINUE TO LET THIS GROUP RUN IT AND GO AHEAD AND PUT THE CAPITAL OF THEIR PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DID THE WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER TODAY IS TO GET CAPITAL FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE AS A PART OF OUR CAPITAL PLAN WAS TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS IF GOLF IS A PRIORITY FOR ITS RESIDENTS CERTAINLY IT IS FOR ME WE SHOULD PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT IT AND GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR THAT CAPITAL AND AND ENSURE FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO WANT TO GOLF IN OUR CITY THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION CHANCE THAT IT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY AND THAT IF IT DOES IF IT IS TAKEN AWAY THAT IS A DECISION THAT THIS BODY IN THIS BODY ALONE MAKES. FURTHERMORE, AS I LOOK AT THIS GOLF AS A WHOLE, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY ADMITTING THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE THIS. AND SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION HAS BE WHAT TO BE DONE WITH ONE AS WELL? WE HAVE A HUGE CAPITAL SITUATION THERE THAT'S THAT'S GOING ON AS WELL. YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO CONVEY THAT PROPERTY AS WELL? WELL, JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE MORE STRATEGIC WITH THIS AND THINK THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THIS ENTIRE ENTERPRISE. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS AND MANY MORE THAT ARE NOT STATED HERE I DON'T I MEAN I THINK YOU GET TO THE POINT OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. I DO SUPPORT THIS AND. I FRANKLY REMEMBER MY FIRST MEETING ON CITY COUNCIL RIGHT AFTER A SPECIAL ELECTION THAT WAS A CLOSED SESSION TO CONSIDER RFP FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THAT PROPERTY AND THE ROOM WAS PACKED AND HAD TO BE CLEARED SO WE COULD HAVE A CLOSED SESSION MEETING. AND I THINK THAT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THAT MEETING PREVIOUS TO THAT MEETING SINCE THEN I HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE I WANT TO THANK FOR GETTING TO THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HIGHLAND GREENS INTO THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP THAT GOT TOGETHER AND WORKED WITH THE CITY TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS. WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROPOSALS OVER THE YEARS FOR DIFFERENT OF DOING THIS, INCLUDING THE PGA AND SOME THINGS LIKE CALLED IT ENDED UP TABLING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS THE PARTNERSHIP AND NOW THE CONVEYANCE TO THREE RIVERS I THINK IS THE ABSOLUTE CHOICE FOR US TO DO TO PROTECT HIGHLAND GREENS AS GOLF FOR AS LONG AS PEOPLE WANT TO GOLF WHICH I DON'T THAT STOPPING SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE BUT THAT'LL BE UP TO PEOPLE MAKE THEIR INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT OR NOT AND THEN EVEN IF IT CHANGES THEN IT'LL STILL BE RECREATION PARK. THE OTHER PART OF THAT I AM EXCITED ABOUT TO SEE WHAT TYPE OF CREATIVITY AND RESOURCES WE RIVERS CAN BRING TO BEAR ON THAT TEN ACRE AVAILABLE PORTION THAT IS JUST SITTING THERE NOT BEING USED AND I WANT TO SEE SOME OPTIONS AND THINGS WITH THAT AND I THEY'RE THE RIGHT GROUP. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES, THEY HAVE THE STAFF, THEY HAVE THE OTHER AMENITIES. AND MAYOR, YOU'VE MENTIONED IT EARLIER THAT THEY ARE BECAUSE OF THEIR SCALE AND NUMBER OF OPERATIONS THEY THEY CAN BRING THINGS TO BEAR THAT MAYBE AS A CITY AREN'T ABLE TO BRING TO IT. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TO GO AND YOU KNOW IT'S JUST COMING FULL CIRCLE FOR MY FIRST MEETING FOR ME. SO THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES AND STAFF FOR WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS AND TO THE COMMUNITY FOR BEING ENGAGED ON THIS. IT'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'LL JUST START OFF BY SAYING THAT YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S NO THAT I AM A VERY HUGE PROPONENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK IT'S GREAT WHEN WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT BUT I AM ALSO A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM AND OF NATURAL SPACES. I THINK IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF 2022 WHERE I SAID I WANT BLOOMINGTON TO HAVE THE BEST PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM IN THE REGION AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE NOT ONLY BLOOMINGTON PARKS BUT WE HAVE THREE RIVERS IN BLOOMINGTON AND OUR FAMILY IS WE'RE ACTIVE USERS OF BOTH. MY SON SPENT MOST OF THE WINTER AT HIGHLAND HILLS UNTIL HE BROKE HIS HEEL LAST WEEK BUT THAT'S A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND FOR BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS NOW AND AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME TO HAVE THIS CONSERVATION EASEMENT TO HAVE A PARK ENTITY LIKE THREE RIVERS WHO RUNS A STELLAR OPERATION ACROSS ACROSS THE REGION. AND SO I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS AND YEAH, I'LL SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. LET'S REMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS THIS IS HONESTLY A VERY FFICULT DECISION FOR ME BECAUSE AND AS I EXPRESSED IN THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD ON THIS BECAUSE JUST A VALUE THAT I HAVE THAT I JUST HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME LETTING GO OF PROPERTY ESPECIALLY IN BLOOMINGTON WHERE WE JUST DON'T HAVE PROPERTY ANYMORE AND IN THE NEXT 50, 75, 100 YEARS THE NEEDS WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I WON'T BE HERE ANYMORE. JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM WILL BE HERE IN 100 YEARS BUT OUR GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE HERE. AND SO THE STRUGGLE I HAD WAS ARE WE TYING THE HANDS OF THOSE GENERATIONS THAT ARE COMING. BUT AS I CONTINUE TO THINK ON IT AND CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND REFLECT WHAT THOSE COUNCILS THAT CAME BEFORE US HAVE DONE AND THEIR PURPOSE PURPOSEFUL THOUGHT OF PRESERVING NATURAL GREEN SPACES WITHIN BLOOMINGTON AND HOW THAT HAS TRANSLATED TO THE JUST THE BEAUTY AND THE PASSION THAT RESIDENTS HAVE. I THINK THERE WAS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT IF I WENT BACK AND ASKED SOMEONE FROM THAT COUNCIL THAT THEY WOULD REGRET HOLDING ASIDE THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT ULTIMATELY IS WHAT KIND OF SWAYED MY MIND GIVING AWAY THAT CONTROL IS NOT NECESSARILY GIVING AWAY CONTROL BUT PRESERVING FOR THE NEXT GENERATION SOMETHING THAT I WON'T REGRET WHEN I LOOK BACK ON THIS AND 30, 40, 50 YEARS AND KNOWING WHAT A GREAT PARTNER THAT RIVERS IS AND HOW THEY RUN THEIR OPERATIONS AND THE FACT THEIR POLICY AND THEIR PURPOSE IS TO CREATE GREEN SPACE AND KEEP THEM GREEN SPACES. AND SO THAT'S WHAT SWAYED MY TO TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IS THE FACT THAT WHEN I'M 80 AND I LOOK BACK ON THIS I WON'T REGRET THAT WE PRESERVE THIS AS A GREEN. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION FOR ME. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. IT'S BEEN REVISED ONE IN I JUST SUPPORT IT AND I'M NOT GOING TO ADD ANY MORE RHETORIC TO IT. I'M JUST HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND A I HOPE IT WORKS OUT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY AND THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. I THINK THE FINAL THING THAT I'LL SAY I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN BROUGHT UP PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND I MEAN IN A WAY I THINK WE'RE DOING WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT THIS STOP DOING LIST WHAT. WHAT MAKES SENSE FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE THAT WE STOP DOING NOW WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO STOP DOING AND CONTINUE DOING AT THE SAME WHAT A DEAL. RIGHT. AND SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT AND I THINK IT'S IT'S A CREATIVE PARTNERSHIP. IT'S A STRONG PARTNERSHIP. YOU KNOW, LONG BEFORE WE WERE SITTING HERE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT WERE ACROSS THE TABLE FROM EACH OTHER PUTTING TOGETHER A PRODUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL AND STRONG RELATIONSHIP. AND WE'RE SEEING BENEFITS OF THAT NOW AND I COULDN'T BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHERE THEY TAKE THIS. I KNOW THE LEADERSHIP THERE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND I KNOW THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LOOKING FORWARD TO GOLF AT HIGHLAND GREENS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT DARN FENCE DOWN AS SOON WE POSSIBLY CAN. SO THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER QUESTION. JUST A QUICK POINT OF ORDER QUESTION YOU KNOW, WE HAD WE HAD FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE HAD RECENTLY THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RECONVENES PROPERTY THAT THEY TOOK VIA RIGHT AWAY ON 35 W IS THERE ANY IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE THAT IF PUSH CAME TO AND THREE RIVERS WANTED TO CONVEY IT BACK TO US THEY COULDN'T DO THAT. MR. RUBY I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING THAT. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. TOSCHI TO WEIGH IN . MR. KOSKI GRINNING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. BY THE WAY, THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THAT NOW THREE RIVERS THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT APPLIES TO PARK DISTRICTS WHERE THEY'D HAVE TO GET JUDICIAL APPROVAL CONVEY BACK TO US WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE FREELY GIVEN BUT NOTHING PREVENT THAT. THAT'S JUST A STATE LAW THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW TO DISPOSE OF THEIR PROPERTY. GREAT. OKAY, SO SO NOT NOT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS FROM NOW THEY COULD GIVE IT BACK TO AND IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO HAVE HAPPEN. SO. RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY GREAT. THANKS. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER COMMENTS ON THIS COUNCIL. I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON AN 4.1 I'D BE HAPPY TO ALESSANDRA THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I AM MAKING THE MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO CONVEY REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AND OWNED BY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA AND KNOWN AS HIGHLAND GREEN'S GOLF COURSE WITH CONDITIONS. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE TO CONVEY REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN AND OWNED BY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON KNOWN AS HIGHLAND GREENS. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS AS MR. MAYOR BETSY I. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO. I. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. COUNCILMEMBER I. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. I. COUNCILMEMBER ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IN OUR POSITION. COUNCILMEMBER. JUST A POINT OF ORDER HERE. IT DOESN'T SAY TO TWO THREE RIVERS IS THAT OKAY OR WITH THREE RIVERS? I AM TRUSTING OUR VERY GOOD I'M TRUSTING OUR LEGAL TEAM TO VERY GOOD. OKAY EXCELLENT. I'M I'M MOVED TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONSERVATION AGREEMENT IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME FORM AS THE AGREEMENT CONTAINED IN THIS AGENDA PACKET. SECOND, MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECONDLY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO AUTHORIZE MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONSERVATION AGREEMENT. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS AS MR. MAYOR BUZZY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SO I. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I MOTION CARRIES AT SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION SO CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR PARTNERS AT THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT. CONGRATULATIONS TO BLOOMINGTON GOLFERS CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE THIS ENDS UP. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP. EXCITED TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I KNOW ARE BOUNCING AROUND IN ALL OF THEIR MINDS OVER THREE RIVERS ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO THERE. AND I THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR EVERYBODY. SO WELL DONE. CONGRATULATIONS. OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING REGARDING OUR SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATE WE'VE GOT CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT. WE'VE GOT NICK JOHNSON, SENIOR PLANNER HERE THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. JOHNSON AND WELCOME. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. SORRY, WE JUST GIVEN 30 SECONDS HERE TO DO PROBABLY AND SETTLE AND WE'LL WE'LL DOVE HOW ABOUT THAT AND YOU CAN GET THAT COMPUTER TO WORK . ALL RIGHT, MR. JOHNSON, HOPE YOU DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY THAT THE PLACE EMPTIED. BUT NOW I GOT A FEW IMPORTANT YOU GOT THE DIEHARDS. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO MAYOR, I HEARD YOU AT THE START OF THIS MEETING SAY THAT WE'VE TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR TOO LONG. BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. YES. I BETTER WRAP IT UP HERE. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR IT. IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. I'LL HAVE A SLIDE TO THAT EFFECT AND BUT I DO HAVE AN AGENDA SLIDE HERE FOR YOU TO GO OVER THE CONTENT I PLAN TO COVER HERE IN MY BRIEF PRESENTATION. SO GETTING TO THE PROCESS AND TIMELINE ITSELF SO THIS HAS BEEN A VERY PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY STARTED IN 2022 WITH A COUPLE OF FALSE STARTS AND BUT GETTING THE RESEARCH ENGINE GOING. WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE STUDY SESSIONS BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCIL LEVEL. HAVING A PROCESS THIS LONG HAS ALLOWED A GOOD AMOUNT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD REALLY GOOD DIALOG WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PARTIES FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OTHER SCIENTISTS AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES ARE INTERESTED PARTIES IN THIS PROCESS SO THAT'S REALLY BEEN EXCITING. THE STUDY SESSIONS THAT WE HELD IN NOVEMBER GAVE US THE ABILITY TO PRESENT TO YOU A FULL DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE SO THAT REALLY US DIG INTO THE DETAILS AND ALLOWED THE PUBLIC I BELIEVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO REACT TO THE SPECIFIC PROVISIONS WITHIN IT WHICH I THINK WAS HELPFUL. AND WE'LL I WILL KIND OF HIGHLIGHT TONIGHT HOW HOW THAT HAS TRANSLATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. AND THEN FINALLY YOU'RE HERE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING IN FEBRUARY SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HOLD A PUBLIC AT THE START OF THE MONTH WE'RE PRESENTING THIS TO YOU HERE FOR POTENTIAL ADOPTION TONIGHT AND WE ARE PROPOSING ONE ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED TO THIS PROJECT A YEAR FROM NOW I'LL. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AT THE END. WE'VE PRESENTED THESE PROJECT GOALS CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT OUR PROCESS, TRIED TO ADHERE TO THESE GOALS AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHENEVER, WERE CONFRONTED WITH A POLICY QUESTION ABOUT THE SAN CODE . WE REALLY TRY AND PUT THROUGH THIS THREE PRONG TEST AND I THINK WE HAVE ADHERED TO THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO JUST A POINT ABOUT KIND OF LEGALS IN THIS PROCESS. SO KEVIN , TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN GENERAL HAS BEEN A COAUTHOR OF THIS ORDINANCE NOT JUST A REVIEWER. SO SIGNAGE REGULATIONS REPRESENT AN INTERSECTION BETWEEN LAND USE LAW AND EXPRESSION. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT COMPLICATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS THAN OTHERS. SOME OF THE OTHER ZONING PROVISIONS THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU SO IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL HAVE THEM BE A DIRECT PARTNER IN THIS PROCESS AND THEN BELT AND SUSPENDERS WISE WE HAVE HAD OUR EXISTING CODE AND OUR PROPOSED SIGN CODE REVIEWED BY A NATIONALLY RENOWNED EXPERT JOHN BAKER WITH GREENSBORO LOCAL FIRM HERE AND HE WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO US IN OUR PROCESS OF PROVIDING MULTIPLE TOUCH POINTS AND A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON THE SLIDE THERE. WELL JUST PROVIDING SOME GENERAL CONCEPTS THAT SIGNAGE REGULATIONS HAVE TO FOLLOW AND KIND OF INFORM THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE AROUND SIGN CODES. SO THIS IS 140 PAGE DOCUMENT. IT'S VERY LONG SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL OF THE INS AND OUTS OF IT AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT TO THAT EXTENT IN . THE WEEDS IN THE STAFF REPORT EITHER. WHAT WE DID PREPARE IS A SUMMARY EXHIBIT AND SO THE SIGN OR THE I'M SORRY THE STAFF REPORT DID HAVE EXHIBIT A WHICH WAS A SUMMARY OF EVERY CHANGE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE THE FULL SCALE ORDINANCE THE BULK OF THE CONTENT, THE DELETION OF THE EXISTING SIGN CODE AND BILLBOARD PROVISIONS AND THEN THE NEW SIGNAGE AND BILLBOARD PROVISIONS IN CHAPTER 21 WHICH IS OF COURSE THE UPDATED ZONING CODE CHAPTER OTHER CHANGES INCLUDED SOME CHANGES TO OUR VARIANCE SIGN VARIANCE PROVISIONS AND A FEW DEFINITION JUST FOR ALIGNMENT PURPOSES. SO THE NEW SIGN CODE DOES REPRESENT A DEPARTURE FROM OUR EXISTING IN A NUMBER OF AREAS. THE STAFF REPORT WENT INTO DETAIL ON ALL OF THESE ITEMS LISTED ON THE SLIDE SO FOR THAT REASON I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT OUR EXISTING SIGN CODE BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS OUT UP HERE FOR FOR TO STIMULATE ANY POTENTIAL QUESTIONS OR ON ON THE PART OF YOU OR THE PUBLIC KIND OF FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS . SO AS WE PROVIDED FULL DRAFT SIGN CODE TO YOU AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN NOVEMBER DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT SOME OF THE MINOR CHANGES THAT OCCURRED SINCE TIME WE'LL TALK ABOUT EVEN SOME SOME MORE CHANGES HERE A LITTLE BIT BUT JUST SOME FORMATTING ISSUES WITH OUR TEMPORARY SIGN PROVISIONS KIND OF ALIGNING TEMPORARY SIGN ALLOWANCES FOR NONCOMMERCIAL AND COMMERCIAL SPEECH ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR LEGAL EYE CONFORMANCE ISSUE. AND THEN JUST DOING SOME REFINEMENT TO OUR ELECTRONIC SIGNED REAL TIME AND I CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT HERE IN A BIT. SO JUST NOW GETTING TO KIND OF THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF WHAT I PLAN TO FOCUS ON HERE. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THE FULL ORDINANCE ON FEBRUARY THE FIRST THEY HELD A PUBLIC HEARING. TWO PERSONS FROM THE PUBLIC SPOKE AT THAT HEARING PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOLLOWING EXTENSIVE AS PART OF THEIR DISCUSSION THEY DID REACH CONSENSUS ON THREE AMENDMENTS TO THE DRAFT SIGN CODE THAT STAFF FIRST THEY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF SIGNS ALLOWED ON PARKING STRUCTURE FROM 1 TO 2 PER ELEVATION AND THAT'S FACING PUBLIC STREETS. THEY DID EXPAND ALLOWANCES FOR TEMPORARY SIGNAGE FOR COMMERCIAL BY CREATING A LARGE TENANT SITE CATEGORY AND EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF DAYS AND THE STAFF DRAFT ORDINANCE DID HAVE LANGUAGE WITHIN IT THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR THE CONVERSION OF BILLBOARDS TO DIGITAL THEY DID THAT LANGUAGE AND DID NOT SUPPORT THAT EFFORT. SO JUST A POINT ABOUT THESE AND I IF YOU WANT TO DIG DETAIL OF KIND OF WHAT WHAT THE LANGUAGE CHANGES WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE I DO HAVE EXTRA SLIDES TO THAT EFFECT SO NOW SO PC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE PARTIES HAVE ALSO HAD MEETINGS WITH US OR HAVE GOOD ONGOING CONVERSATIONS OR ENGAGEMENT STAFF AND SO I THOUGHT A GOOD WAY TO DO THAT MAYBE WAS TO AND BOIL DOWN THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED TO KIND BROADER TOPICS OR CATEGORIES OF ISSUES. AND SO THERE'S ISSUES THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU TONIGHT AND THIS COLOR CODED CHART KIND OF IDENTIFIES WHICH OF THE ISSUES THESE DIFFERENT PARTIES ARE FOCUSED ON IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENT CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS THAT THEY WOULD SUGGEST TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS CONSIDER A NEW SITE CODE . I'M HAPPY TO DIG INTO THESE IN MORE DETAIL. SOME OF THEM INCLUDE LITTLE NUANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM SO IT'S MAYBE UNFAIR TO BOIL THEM DOWN JUST TO CATEGORIES BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS I THINK IT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. SO THERE'S THREE THIS IS THE LIST OF THE NINE ISSUES THAT I REFERRED TO AND I DO WANT TO BE SPECIFIC THAT WE ARE LABELING THEM BY LETTER PART OF WHAT OUR GOAL IS TONIGHT IS IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE PLANNING VERSION OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE THAT WE DO CREATE A GOOD LEGISLATIVE RECORD OF WHAT ANY OF THOSE POTENTIAL CHANGES YOU MIGHT SUPPORT WOULD BE. SO THESE ARE THE NINE ISSUES THAT REPRESENTED THOSE TOPICS ACROSS THE TOP OF THE TABLE ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE I PRESENTED TO YOU AND AS YOU ALL KNOW REVIEWING MANY CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THROUGHOUT THESE PROCESSES THESE ARE ALL VERY DYNAMIC AND ONGOING ENVIRONMENTS THAT INCLUDE WORK UP INTO THE WHISTLE SOMETIMES AND SO ONE OF THE THREE OF THE CHANGES CARL SANDERSON ONE OF THE CONSISTENT KIND OF ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS CERTAINLY MANAGED ON A NUMBER OF RETAIL SITES IN BLOOMINGTON THEY IDENTIFIED FIVE ISSUES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGES WITHIN THE SAME CODE AND STAFF HAS BEEN HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL AS DOING ADDITIONAL UP ANALYSIS ON SOME OF THE REQUESTS THEY'VE BEEN MAKING. AND WE DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THREE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE RECOGNIZING THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SINCE MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION BUT BASED ON OUR FOLLOW UP ANALYSIS AND THESE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS DO WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING . AND SO THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT WE WILL HIGHLIGHT IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO DETAIL ON ANY OF THE OTHER SIX. I DO HAVE SLIDES FOR ALL OF THEM EXCEPT THE FIRST ONE AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLVED THAT REQUEST AS PART OF THEIR AMENDMENTS IN THEIR PROCESS. SO WITH THAT I WILL KIND OF PRESENT THESE THREE ITEMS THAT CROSS ANDERSEN AS BEING ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS HAS MADE REQUESTS FOR ME TO IDENTIFY THE STAFF AS BEING IMPORTANT TO THEM. SO THE FIRST ISSUE REQUESTS TO EFF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE SIGN CODE ESTABLISHING MAXIMUM SIZES FOR INDIVIDUAL BUILDING SIGNS. IT'S ACTUALLY SERVING AS THE CAP THAT'S DONE THROUGH A BUILDING FRONTAGE AND IN THESE DISTRICTS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN UNLIMITED NUMBER OF BUILDING SIGNS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T EXCEED YOUR OVERALL BUCKET OF ALLOWANCE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE. BUT THIS HAS TO DO WITH THAT THE INITIAL STAFF DRAFT REVIEWED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS PROPOSED TO CAPS ON INDIVIDUAL MAC'S BUILDING SIGN SIZE IN THE CLASS THREE SIGN DISTRICT WHICH JUST FOR REMINDERS IS KIND OF THE BULK OF THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES IN BLOOMINGTON SO THE MAJORITY OF SIGN PERMITS GOING TO BE REVIEWED AND SUBJECT TO THE CLASS THREE SIGN DISTRICT WE PROPOSED MAXINE INDIVIDUAL SIGN SIZE OF 250 SQUARE FEET IN THE FIVE SIGN DISTRICT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLASS FIVE AND CLASS THREE CLASS FIVE REPRESENTS OUR MORE MIXED USE ZONE IN DISTRICT. SO THESE ARE ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE OUR BUILDINGS CLOSER THE STREET. SO IN EFFECT THESE SIGNS ARE ALSO CLOSER TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF BUT THE WAY THESE SITES ARE SET UP PER THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODES IS THAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE FRIENDLY TO PEDESTRIAN AND KIND OF THAT SCALE ACTIVITY IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT KIND OF SOME OF THE STAFF'S THINKING IN TERMS OF WHEN WE DEVELOP SOME OF THESE STANDARDS HAD TO DO WITH THE DISCREPANCY OR THE DIFFERENCE THE INTENT OF MORE GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING VERSUS MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AS PART OF THESE CHANGES THAT KRAUSS'S REQUESTING IN THEIR LETTER THEY ACTUALLY REQUESTED JUST RAISING THE CAP IN BOTH DISTRICTS TO 400 SQUARE FEET. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WAS IT INTENDED TO DO SO THE EXISTING SIGN DOES NOT HAVE ANY CAPS. THIS IS A NEW PROPOSAL ON INDIVIDUAL SIGNS BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IN EFFECT IS THAT THE LARGER YOUR BUILDING IS IT CONTINUES TO GIVE YOU LESS AND LESS PERCENTAGE OF SIGN AREA BASED ON WALL AREA ELEVATION. SO IN EFFECT IT KIND OF SERVES AS A DE CAP IT HAS A CAP EFFECT VERY LARGE BUILDINGS BY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE THEY GET PER THE AMOUNT OF WALL AREA. SO ABSENT THAT WITH USING THESE NEW METHODOLOGIES OF BUILDING FRONTAGE IN THIS WE WERE LOOKING TO KIND OF CREATE A IF A BIT OF A LARGE BUILDING OR A VERY LONG BUILDING DID NOT HAVE LESSENING OF PERCENTAGES LIKE THE EXISTING CODE IN EFFECT YOU COULD HAVE A VERY YOU HAVE A CENTER YOU COULD HAVE A VERY LARGE WALL SIGN IN EFFECT. AND SO WHAT THESE CAPS WERE TRYING TO DO IS TRY AND GET OUT IN FRONT OF SCENARIOS WHERE VERY LARGE SIGNS COULD BE INSTALLED IN KIND OF SETTINGS WHERE MAYBE IT WASN'T SO APPROPRIATE. SO GOING BACK TO THAT POINT ABOUT WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AND WE'VE PROPOSED TRACT CHANGE LANGUAGE FOR YOU ON THE SLIDE WE'VE SHARED THIS LANGUAGE WITH THE SUBMITTER AS WELL. WE'RE IN THE CAPS WOULD ONLY APPLY WHEN A SIGN IS WITHIN 250 FEET OF A DWELLING ON A RESIDENTIAL. AND SO I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING THAT STANDARD IS REALLY TRYING TO PROTECT AGAINST IN TERMS OF HAVING VERY LARGE SIGNS KIND OF WITH THEIR SPLIT TYPICALLY ILLUMINATED KIND OF IMPOSING A LARGER STATURE OVER RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO I DO WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AS PART OF THESE CHANGES TOO I WOULD ALSO IDENTIFY THAT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING SEPARATE STANDARDS FOR THE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND CLASS THREE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO JUST ALIGN THAT AS 250 SQUARE FEET. SO I'LL CERTAINLY LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT I THINK THE NET EFFECT OF THIS PROPOSED WOULD BE THAT IN MOST CASES THERE WOULD NOT BE A CAP ON AN SIGN, IT WOULD ONLY BE GOVERNED BY THEIR BUILDING FRONTAGE CALCULATION IF THAT MAKES SENSE I'M SORRY THAT WAS PROBABLY A LOT IN THE WEEDS BUT IT'S A TECHNICAL ISSUE AND WANT TO TRY AND EXPLAIN IT THOROUGHLY SO. BACK TO MY POINT ABOUT LABELING THE REQUESTS BY LETTER WE ALSO HAVE OPTIONS ON A FEW OF THESE SLIDES AND SO COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF SOME OF THESE CHANGES OR ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS DO WANT TO TRY AND IDENTIFY THE THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING. SO AGAIN DATING BACK TO THAT OR GETTING BACK TO THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD. SO ON THIS ONE OPTION ONE WOULD BE NO CHANGES OPTION TWO WHICH IS STAFF SUPPORTED WOULD BE GOING WITH THIS TRACK CHANGE LANGUAGE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN KEEPING THE CAPS AT 250 SQUARE FEET BUT HAVING ONLY APPLY WHEN A BUILDING SIGN IS WITHIN 250 FEET OF A DWELLING DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN OPTION THREE WE JUST LISTED THERE THAT AGAIN THAT WAS THE PROPOSAL BY CROSS ANDERSON TO JUST RAISE THE CAPS AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL. AND BY THE WAY, IAVE SOME EXTRA SLIDES THAT KIND OF EXAMPLES OF DIFFERENT SIDE SIZES. I KNOW SOME OF THE STUFF IS KIND OF NEBULOUS YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RANDOM NUMBERS BUT IF THAT HELPS KIND OF PUT TO IT I CAN SHOW SOME OF THOSE IF REQUESTED. SO GETTING THROUGH A COUPLE OF AGAIN THE THREE HIGHLIGHTED ITEMS THAT I DO WANT TO UPDATE FOR YOU. SO THE NEXT ONE IS BUILDING SIGN ALLOWANCE. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD ACROSS ANDERSON FELT THAT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL THE ONE RECOMMENDED BY PLANNING COMMISSION IT HAS IN THE CLASS THREE IT HAS 1.25 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE PER LINEAL FOOT OF TENANT SPACE OR BUILDING FRONTAGE. THEY THOUGHT THAT THE AND IN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT IT'S ONE FOOT PER LINEAL FOOT THEY THOUGHT THAT THAT SHOULD JUST ALIGN BETWEEN THOSE BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS AGAIN THAT WAS RECOMMENDED WITH ON THE AUSPICE WITH THE BACKING OF TRYING TO THINK ABOUT MIXED USE DISTRICTS A LITTLE BIT MORE PEDESTRIAN OR SCALE SIGNS BUT AFTER DOING ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS ABOUT SOME OF OUR MULTI-TENANT SITES WE ARE IN CONCURRENCE WITH CROSS ON THIS PARTICULAR STANDARD SO WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF RAISING THAT TO 1.25 IN MIXED USE SIGN DISTRICT CLASS FIVE SO THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THERE ON THAT ITEM AND THEN ON REQUEST H THIS HAS TO DO WITH MAX FREESTANDING SIGN SIZE. THIS ONE'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD WELL FREESTANDING SIGNS IN BOTH THE CLASS THREE AND CLASS FIVE WERE CAPPED AT 100 SQUARE FEET AS THE MAXIMUM SIZE THIS CHANGE WOULD ALIGN WITH CROSS TO RAISE BOTH OF THOSE CAPS 250 SQUARE FEET. AND WE DID HAVE TO MAKE SOME UPDATES TO THE NOTES BECAUSE. IF YOU RECALL WE WERE HAVING GREATER SIGN ALLOWANCES FOR SIGNS ARE IN PROXIMITY OR ALONG INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS 35 W FOR 94 AND TRUNK HIGHWAY 77 THE INCREASED HEIGHT STILL EXISTS BUT BASICALLY WE JUST STRIKE THE LAST SENTENCE AND TABLE NO. TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOWED TO BE 150 SQUARE FEET. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THERE. YEAH, THE SAME CHANGE TO THE PYLON SIGN TABLE AS WELL. SO AGAIN JUST RAISING THE MAXIMUM SIGN SIZE FROM 100 SQUARE FEET TO 150 SQUARE FEET. AND AGAIN ALL OF THE SIGNAGE IS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF LOT FRONTAGE THEY HAVE. THAT'S A NEW STANDARD WITHIN THIS CODE . SO EVEN FOR SMALLER SITES THEY'RE LIKELY NOT ABLE GET UP TO 150 SQUARE FOOT CAP. SO IT DOES HAVE THAT MECHANISM WITHIN IT. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THOSE THREE CHANGES ELECTRONIC SIGNED WELL TIME THIS HAS BEEN A POPULAR TOPIC THIS PROCESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAYBE THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST IS THAT WE JUST PREPARE A MAP SHOWING KIND OF THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT OF BLOOMINGTON AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS AND AGAIN JUST FOR CONTEXT DWELL TIME IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE ELECTRONIC SIGN HAS TO REMAIN STATIC OR NOT MOVING THE HAS TO STAY CONSISTENT BEFORE IT'S ALLOWED TO INSTANTANEOUSLY TRANSITION TO THE NEXT MESSAGE NON COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL AND SO WITHIN KIND OF THE LANDSCAPE BLOOMINGTON YOU'LL SEE A VERY WIDE RANGE OF STANDARDS YOU'LL SEE UP TO AN HOUR AND THEN YOU'LL SEE AS LOW AS 8 SECONDS. OF COURSE THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE EVEN LOWER STANDARDS THAN THAT AND SO IT'S A VERY WIDE RANGE. BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE ALTHOUGH I WILL POINT THAT A GOOD PROPORTION OF OUR ELECTRONIC SIGNS DO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LIMITED TEXT OPTION AND SO THERE ARE ALREADY ALLOWED HAVE A DWELL TIME OF 8 SECONDS UNDER OUR EXISTING STANDARDS AS WELL AS WOULD BE PROPOSED TO BE. THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT THIS IS THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY REFLECTIVE OF ALL BILLBOARD STANDARDS ACROSS ALL THESE JURISDICTIONS. WE ATTEMPTED TO CAPTURE THAT AND I THINK WE'VE CAPTURED IT ACCURATELY BUT I ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT ONE JURISDICTION MIGHT HAVE SEPARATE STANDARDS FOR THAT AND THEN RELATED TO OUR STANDARDS JUST A NOTE ABOUT OUR SLIDE IS THAT THE DWELL TIME FOR BILLBOARDS IS SEPARATE IN OUR CODE FROM OUR STANDARD ELECTRONIC DWELL TIME IN THE SUBJECT TO ALL OTHER ELECTRONIC. SO AGAIN FOR EXAMPLE THE ONE OUT HERE ON OLD TRACK AP WOULD BE SUBJECT A DIFFERENT DWELL TIME ALLOWANCE THAN THE FOUR BILLBOARDS THAT EXIST IN TOWN SHOULD ONE OF THEM BE CONVERTED TO DIGITAL. SO I DO WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BUT I MEAN HOPEFULLY THIS IS HELPFUL IT PROVIDES YOU KIND OF AN IDEA OF THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THE ISSUE AND WHEN THINKING ABOUT IT I MEAN THE TWO PRIMARY CONSIDERATION HAS TO DO WITH TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH COMMUNITY ESTHETICS. SO AS THIS TECHNOLOGY CONTINUES TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE, MORE PEOPLE WILL UTILIZE ELECTRONIC SIGNS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET MORE MESSAGES OUT THERE, YOU CAN PIVOT AND CHANGE YOUR MESSAGE. OF COURSE. AND SO AS THEY DEPLOY MORE OF THEM AND IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SMALLER DWELL TIME OF COURSE YOU COULD SEE A HIGHER PROPENSITY OF CHANGING MESSAGES THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMERCIAL AREAS THROUGHOUT TOWN SO NEXT STEPS HOPEFULLY TONIGHT OR WHEN APPROPRIATE WE CAN PROCEED WITH ADOPTION OF A NEW SIGN CODE . THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT OF BACK END WORK DOES HAVE TO HAPPEN BEYOND A TYPICAL ZONING CODE AMENDMENT WITH THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS AS WELL AS INTERNAL PERMIT PROCEDURES ON OUR PERMIT PORTAL SYSTEM THAT HAVE TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE NEW SIGN CODE AND THEN AGAIN BACK TO MY COMMENT ABOUT THE MAYOR'S POINT ABOUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TOO LONG. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE WORK ON IT FOREVER. HOWEVER WHEN ADOPTING A NEW POLICY OF THIS LEVEL OR EXTENT WHICH HAS A LOT OF COMPLEXITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING NEW MECHANISMS AND HOW YOU CALCULATE SIGNAGE WE AS STAFF JUST THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO A ONE YEAR LOOK BACK IN CASE I KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT SIMILAR TO OUR MOBILE FOOD STANDARDS BELIEVE WE DID THAT WITH OUR VIEWS AS WELL BUT WHAT WE INTEND TO TRACK AS A STAFF DURING THIS PROCESS IS JUST KIND OF ALL OF THE SIGN AS WELL AS TIME PERMIT OUTCOMES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES WE RECEIVED FROM THE NEW CODE AS WELL AS CATALOGED POTENTIAL REFINEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR KIND OF SIMILAR TO HOW WE DO MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE CAN CERTAINLY PRESENT THOSE FINDINGS TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN COUNCIL IN SOME THAT THEY DEEM APPROPRIATE WHETHER IT BE A REPORTR A PRESENTATION OR WHATEVER MAKES SENSE AND IF NEED BE WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THIS POLICY IF IT'S NECESSARY AND I THINK I SAID THIS AT THE NOVEMBER STUDY SESSION BUT IDEALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME LITTLE TWEAKS TO THE NUMBERS THAT HAPPEN OVER TIME TO GET TO KIND OF SET THE DIALS PERFECT FOR BLOOMINGTON. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AND FEEL WE DO HAVE THE CORRECT STRUCTURE IN PLACE. SO WITH THAT I DO HAVE A COUPLE POTENTIAL MOTIONS FOR YOU. I DO HAVE LANGUAGE WOULD FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE IN ADDITION I DO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION THAT INCLUDES LANGUAGE AT THE BOTTOM OF IT SUBJECT TO THE AMENDMENTS THAT STAFF HIGHLIGHT AND IDENTIFIED IN THOSE THREE SLIDES THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU SO AGAIN NUMBERING THESE ITEMS BY F TO G TO H TO THE LETTER REFERS TO THE REQUEST THE NUMBER REFERS TO THE OPTION THAT I IDENTIFIED ON THE SLIDE AND IF YOU WANTED TO EXPLORE OR ANY OTHER OF THOSE REQUESTS YOU CERTAINLY COULD DO SO USING THAT SYSTEM IF YOU SO CHOOSE. AND THERE IS A SUMMARY PUBLICATION RECOMMENDATION AS WELL RESOLUTION. SO I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR.. JOHNSON SO COUNSEL, PREPARE YOUR QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT A COUPLE TO START WITH IF WE COULD. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PLANNING ELIMINATED THE CONVERSION OF BILLBOARDS TO ELECTRONIC DISPLAY. SO IS THE PROPOSAL COMING FORWARD DOES THAT REFLECT PLANNING COMMISSION'S STRIKING OF THAT OR IS THAT STILL IN THERE SOMEWHERE ? THAT'S CORRECT, MAYOR. I'LL EVEN SHOW YOU THAT LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BUT THE DRAFT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND IT WAS BASED ON SOME DISCUSSION AND HOPEFULLY INTERPRETATION OF KIND OF THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION THAT TIME. BUT OUR DRAFT INCLUDE AN ALLOWANCE FOR DIGITAL AND THE REASON OR THE INTERPLAY NOT TO GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS BUT THE INTERPLAY NEEDS TO BE CREATED IS THAT ALL OF THESE BILLBOARDS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING AND SO YOU ARE ALLOWED TO EXPAND LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY BUT ONLY BY ORDINANCE ONLY BY A SPECIFIC ALLOWANCE YOUR CODE AND SO WHAT THIS PROVISION WAS INTENDED TO DO WAS TO ALLOW FOR THAT CONVERSION BECAUSE WHEN YOU TYPICALLY WHEN YOU CONVERT A BILLBOARD THE DEPTH OF IT SOMETIMES HAS TO INCREASE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE CABINETS AND NEW TECHNOLOGY IS MY UNDERSTANDING I'M NOT AN EXPERT BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN WE ALSO LANGUAGE CREATING AN EXCEPTION MAXIMUM SIGN SIZE FOR OUR ELECTRONIC SIGN STANDARDS TO THAT WAS STRUCK IN ORDER TO KIND OF AND YES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THE DRAFT BEFORE YOU IN BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION DRAFT AND THE ONE IN YOUR PACKET DOES NOT INCLUDE THIS. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD SO THE TIME WE SPENT ON THIS THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN CONJUNCTION WITH LEGAL IN THE WORK THAT YOU THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WITH FEEDBACK AND SO ON WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE AS BEING A BEING REFLECTIVE OF A MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY APPROACH TO SIGNAGE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON? MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR COMMENT. I INVITE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO TELL ME AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING WHETHER THEY FEEL THAT WAY. I APPRECIATE INTERPLAY THAT WE'VE HAD PARTICULARLY WITH CROUSE BUT OTHER ACTORS TOO AND THEY'VE GIVEN GOOD FEEDBACK BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT PROPERTY TYPES AND BUILDING TYPES OF HOW THIS CODE WILL TRANSLATE THAT IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF OR ANTICIPATE EVERY PROPERTY HOW IT WILL AFFECT THEM SPECIFICALLY IN BLOOMINGTON BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHEREAS I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION INCREASING THE SIGN AREA ALLOWANCES SOME OF WHICH I TALKED ABOUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS TOO LIKE ALLOWING SIGNS ON FORTH ON FOUR SIDES OF A BUILDING WHICH ISN'T CURRENTLY ALLOWED BY NOT DICTATING UNIFORMITY OF CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS OF INTEREST TO SOME BUSINESS TYPES. SO THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE I AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT OUR GOOD BENEFITS TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND I AM HAPPY WITH THAT SO AND GENERALLY YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD GOOD PARTICIPATION PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND I'M HAPPY FOR THAT BUT THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN SPEAKING AT THE MEETINGS IS A FAIRLY SMALL GROUP TO ME THAT INDICATES THAT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF GETTING OUT IN FRONT IT AND THAT WE'VE PRESENTED A PRODUCT THAT IS NOT SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER MAYBE SO YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THIS IS COMING BACK AGAIN. IT WAS SET IN NOVEMBER NEXT YEAR. WHEN WHEN WAS THIS COMING BACK AGAIN TO SOIL MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WHENEVER THE POLICY WHENEVER THE SAN CODE IS ADOPTED THAT YOU GET YEAR'S WORTH OF DATA AND THEN A REPORT BACK AT THAT POINT. SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A TIME SPECIFIC THING BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO PROCEED AND ADOPT SOMETHING BUT WE THINK YOU GET A GOOD AMOUNT OF DATA WITHIN A YEAR. OKAY SO WE'D BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT AGAIN THIS IS REAL, REAL COMPLICATED. SO THEN JUST JUST TWO THINGS THAT HERE THEN SO THEN WITH THE VISIBILITY PIECE YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME PICTURES OF THAT. I JUST I DO WANT TO SEE THAT BECAUSE WHAT MAY BE VISIBLE FOR ONE PERSON MAY NOT BE VISIBLE FOR FOR OTHER PEOPLE AT 250. YEAH SO. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I DON'T HAVE ENDLESS PICTURES OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF SIGN AREAS IN BLOOMINGTON BUT I DO HAVE A FEW THAT ARE KIND OF A NOTABLE ONES YOU KNOW THE HOME FURNITURE PROPERTY THAT'S A FAIRLY NEWER DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A VERY LARGE RETAIL BUILDING. THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF SIGNS ON THEIR NORTH AND SOUTH ELEVATION WHICH ARE WHICH ARE QUITE LARGE AND DO FACE THE HIGHWAY AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE WALL AREA OR I'M SORRY THOSE WAL SIGNS KIND OF WITHIN BOTH THE INDIVIDUAL CAP ALLOWANCE WELL AS THIS IS ONE OF THE SITES WE DID TEST THE NEW ORDINANCE ON AND WOULD WORK WITH OUR PROVISIONS IKEA OF COURSE WELL WELL VISIBLE PROPERTY THESE ARE SIGNS THAT ARE ACTUALLY SUBJECT TO THE SIX TO ZONING DISTRICT SO THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO A CAP. I JUST THOUGHT FOR THE PURPOSES OF SCALE THAT IT'S A WELL-KNOWN SIGN AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD RECOGNIZE. THE HYATT REGENCY AND BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION OF COURSE A 210 SQUARE FOOT SIGN BELL BANK. THE REASON WE INCLUDED THIS ONE IS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW SIGNS ON TALL OFFICE BUILDINGS WHILE THEY LOOK ACTUALLY QUITE SMALL BASED ON THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN YOU'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT HORIZONTAL DISTANCE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERTICAL DISTANCE TO. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A 329 SQUARE FOOT SIGN. BUT TO MY MIND AND SOME OF THIS STUFF IS SUBJECTIVE TO A DEGREE BUT TO ME DOES NOT LOOK LIKE AN INCREASINGLY LARGE WALGREENS JUST CLOSE HERE TO A CIVIC PLAZA 60 SQUARE FEET SUBARU ALONG 494 200 AND 108 FOOT SQUARE FOOT SIGN EXTRA SPACE STORAGE ALONG PENN AVENUE NOT FAR FROM HERE. THAT'S ONE OF THE LARGER ONES THAT WE'VE PERMITTED HERE IN TOWN SOME FREESTANDING EXAMPLES SO FAR. I MEAN THANKS FOR ALL THE EXAMPLES BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT THE VISIBILITY PIECE OF IT SO CAN'T BE MORE THAN 250 FEET VISIBLE SO LET'S JUST TAKE THE TARGET ONE SO DOES IT MATTER WHAT THE SIZE OF IT IS THAT'S THE PIECE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN FROM A FROM AN ORDINANCE STANDPOINT. YEAH IT COMES A WOMAN SO IF I MAY I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL SIGN MAXIMUM CAPS? YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PIECE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU SAID THAT OKAY I HAVE A SIGN UP AND THEN 250 FEET FROM THAT THAT'S WHAT TRYING TO DO MY NEXT QUESTION I'LL JUST GIVE IT TO YOU NOW IS THE IF THAT IS ELECTRIFIED OR THERE'S LIGHT COMING OF THAT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT MEANS. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT IT ON OUR IN OUR LIGHTING PIECE, HOW THAT OPERATES AND HOW THAT IMPACTS. I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SAW ON LYNDALE OF IT IN VARIOUS PARTS OF PENN AVENUE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THESE SIGNS OUT THERE AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YEAH SO JUST TO PROTECTIONS ARE THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER SORT OF GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF INDIVIDUAL CAMERA ON AN INDIVIDUAL BUILDING SIGN IT HAS IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO FREESTANDING SIGNS THEY HAVE THEIR OWN KIND OF SEPARATE MAXIMUM AREAS BUT THE BEHIND THAT IS THAT WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WE RECOGNIZED FEW SIGNS IN TOWN THAT HAD BEEN INSTALLED THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FEEDBACK ABOUT FROM THE PUBLIC THAT RAISED CONCERNS FOR THEM JUST IN TERMS NOT JUST ALONE ALONG WITH THEIR BRIGHTNESS BUT IN TERMS OF THE SCALE OR THE SIZE OF THESE SIGNS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY INTERACTED CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WHEN THEY'RE JUST WITHIN FULLY COMMERCIAL AREAS IT PRESENTS LESS OF A CHALLENGE IN THAT REGARD. SO THE IDEA BEHIND CREATING A CAP ON THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF AN INDIVIDUAL WITHIN 250 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING IS IN ORDER TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THAT SITUATION WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A VERY LARGE WALL SIGN THAT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH IT'S INSTALLED IN SO THAT'S KIND OF THE KEY THERE. OKAY I GET NOW THANKS FOR FOR BRINGING ME ALONG THERE I WAS I WASN'T QUITE GRASPING THAT THAT OTHER STUFF YOU'RE SHOWING ME FIT INTO THIS SO THANK HOPEFULLY AND YEAH MAYOR COUNCILOR IF I MAY THAT WHAT I HOPEFULLY WHAT I HOPEFULLY WHAT'S SHOWN IN THE CONTEXT OF SOME OF THOSE SIGNED EXAMPLES IS THAT IN MY IN MY OPINION YOU CAN HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE COMMERCIAL MESSAGE WITH THE 250 SQUARE FOOT SIGN. A 250 SQUARE FOOT SIGN IS ACTUALLY QUITE LARGE MOST CIRCUMSTANCES. SO WE ARE PROPOSING A CAP AND SPECIFICALLY ONE CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE EFFECTIVE COMMERCIAL MESSAGES SO IS MY SECONDARY PIECE AROUND A LIT PIECE OF IT. WE HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IF I GOT THIS TO 50 AND IT'S LIT IN MY MY HOUSE IS RIGHT AND I'M LOOKING STRAIGHT AT IT WHAT PROTECTIONS DO I HAVE. YEAH, THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A SLIDE IT'S RELATED TO A DIFFERENT ISSUE. IT HAS OUR ASSIGNED BRIGHTNESS REQUIREMENTS ON IT. SO WHETHER BE AN ELECTRONIC SIGN OR WHETHER IT BE A JUST A LIT SIGN, A CHANNEL LETTER SIGN THAT IS INTERNALLY LIT THAT HAS EMITTING LIGHT OUT FROM IT IT IS SUBJECT TO MAXIMUM BRIGHTNESS REQUIREMENTS. BRIGHTNESS IS MEASURED IN NITS CANDLES PER SQUARE METER BUT AS OPPOSED TO LIKE THE AMOUNT OF LUMENS THAT THE ACTUAL FIXTURE COMES OUT THAT THE BRIGHTNESS READING IS A MEASURE OF THE INTENSITY OF THE LIGHT AS PERCEIVED FROM YOUR EYE AWAY FROM THE SIGN NOT AT THE SIGN ITSELF. AND SO WHETHER IT BE A LIT SIGN OR JUST A AN ELECTRONIC SIGN IT'S SUBJECT TO THE SAME BRIGHTNESS REGULATIONS AND WHEN IT'S CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IT HAS HAVE A LOWER LEVEL OF BRIGHTNESS THAN WHEN IT'S JUST IN A COMMERCIAL OR A LONG 35 W FOR ANY FOR THOSE PROVISIONS ARE ACTUALLY IN SORRY I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND THIS THING WHILE I'M TALKING HERE I THINK I THINK I'VE GOT IT FROM WHAT FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS THERE AND ARE ANY OTHER CITIES THAT'S WAY TOO TO SEE ANYWHERE THAT'S SORRY THAT WAS POINTLESS AND ARE ANY OTHER CITIES UTILIZING THIS TYPE OF STANDARD OR IS THIS IS YEAH. SO ONE OTHER RELATED POINT I WANT MAKE I DID NOT RESEARCH THE EXTENT TO WHICH OTHER CITIES HAVE MAXIMUM BRIGHTNESS STANDARDS FOR SIGN LIGHTING BUT WHAT THEY OFTEN DO AND MAYBE BLOOMINGTON IS A LITTLE MORE SOPHISTICATED IN THIS REGARD WE HAVE A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE LIGHTING ORDINANCE LAND APPEARS WAS PREVIOUS PLANNER WHO WAS LIKE ON THAT ISSUE WAS HIS BABY FOR SURE BUT WE HAVE A METER WHERE WE CAN MEASURE SUN BRIGHTNESS BUT MOST CITIES DO IS THEY EITHER SAY YOU CAN BE LIT OR YOU CAN'T BE LIT DEPENDING ON HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO RESIDENTIAL. AND WE HAVE A STANDARD LIKE THAT TOO AND IT'S SET AT 100 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL SITE AS OPPOSED TO 250 OR IN OUR CASE I THINK IT'S 550 IN OUR LIGHTING ORDINANCE. SO OTHER CITIES DO DO THAT BUT THEY REGULATE IT BY A DISTANCE AND BY EITHER CAN'T BE LIT OR CAN BE LIT I'M SURE SOME CITIES DO REGULATING AND BRIGHTNESS LIKE BLOOMINGTON BUT I WOULD SAY WE'RE PROBABLY MORE IN THE SMALLER CAMP THAN THE LARGER CAMP IN THAT REGARD GIVEN THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS IN A YEAR MAYBE THERE'LL BE NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL WHEN WE GO OUT THERE. I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DOING COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND IT'S RELATED TO SOME OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT. SO THANKS FOR PULLING UP THE EXTRA STATE SPEECH STORAGE ONE WHICH IS A CONSTANT CONSTANT COMPLAINTS. CAN WE RETROACTIVELY MAKE THEM MAKE A 250 SQUARE FOOT SIGN MAYOR COUNCILOR ADELE SANDRO ARE ALSO SUBJECT TO LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY SO THEY WOULD BE GRANTED THE SAME RIGHTS AS SAY A STRUCTURE THAT WAS BUILT UNDER A PREVIOUS CODE . SO OKAY WHAT ABOUT THE LIGHT LIMITS THAT MAYOR COUNCILOR NELSON SO THEY THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THAT AND SOME OF THOSE SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF NEEDLES IN YOUR SIDE OR OF ONGOING ENFORCEMENT ISSUE OR YOU KNOW KIND OF STAY IN YOUR FOOT IS THAT A BETTER ANALOGY WHERE YOU'LL DO ENFORCEMENT THEY WILL COMPLY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS ON ANY INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHT NOW JUST SAYING SOMETIMES IT IS A THESE THESE SIGNS DO HAVE DIMMER SWITCHES. SO SOMETIMES WHAT YOU'LL FIND IS THAT A SIGN WAS DIMMED DOWN AND PRESENTS LESS OF A PROBLEM AND OVER TIME IT EITHER IT INCREASES AND THAT'S NOT THE MAJORITY THAT'S IN A FEW OCCASIONS THAT I CAN THINK OF BUT IT DOES HAPPEN A 400 SQUARE FOOT SIGN THE BILL BANK SIGN IS SMALLER THAN THAT EXTRA SPACE STORAGE SIGN AND IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL SITS ACROSS FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT IS LIT BRIGHT AS HECK EVERY TIME ALL NIGHT LONG AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT SO TO EXTENT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SOLVE PEOPLE'S PROBLEMS BY NOT JUST THESE STANDARDS BUT ENFORCING THEM AND FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO I'D LOVE SEE ALL THE LIST OF LEGAL NON-CONFORMING PEOPLE AND I DON'T KNOW CARROT AND STICK THEM INTO GETTING CONFORMANCE MAYBE I DON'T KNOW I'D THROW THAT OUT THERE AS A COMMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING LATER. OKAY I'M CONFUSED BY THE SIGN LIGHTING CHANGES GENERALLY SPEAKING THOUGH SO IT'S THE'S THERE'S TEXT IN HERE THAT SAYS THAT THEY ARE NOT BE ILLUMINATED AND THEN THERE'S TEXT IN THERE THAT THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE THERE'S A THERE'S A REQUIREMENT WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE TURNED OFF BUT I DIDN'T FIND THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT. IS THAT IN SOME OTHER IS THAT IN THE LIGHTING STANDARD OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON HERE MARY COUNCILOR DALE, SANDRA WE HAVE A FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS THAT SAY DURING THE NIGHTTIME AND WE DEFINE THAT AS 9 P.M. TO 7 A.M. THAT THEY SIGN IF IT'S WITHIN 150 FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO STAY STATIC WHICH MEANS NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE MESSAGES ANYMORE WHICH IS KIND OF THE BIGGEST DRIVER THE NUISANCE CHARACTERISTIC OR WOULD NEED TO BE EXTINGUISHED SO. THAT'S ONE THING OUR SIGN LIGHTING PROVISIONS DO REQUIRE THAT SIGNS WITHIN 100 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THEY CAN'T BE ILLUMINATED AND THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE WITH AGAIN WITH LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY. BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR EXISTING CODE IS THAT THERE'S VERY THERE'S VARIED STANDARDS ACROSS ALL OF OUR SIGN DISTRICTS AND SPECIAL USES SOMETIMES IT'S 50 FEET CAN'T BE LIT. SOMETIMES IT'S HUNDRED, SOMETIMES 250. SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT UNIFORM ACROSS AND WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AS WE GO FROM THAT POINT FORWARD. SO THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT IN TERMS OF I KNOW DURING YOUR WE I SENT THIS AN EMAIL TO COUNCILOR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL LIVABILITY ORDINANCE THAT HAS TO DO WITH LIGHTING NOT SCIENCE INTERIOR LIGHTING BUT BASICALLY WHAT THAT SET UP IN OUR LIGHTING ORDINANCE IS WHEN BUILDINGS ARE WITHIN OR WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO USES THEY SHOULD EXTINGUISH THEIR INTERIOR LIGHTS WHEN THEY'RE NO LONGER OPEN FOR BUSINESS. THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THEM FROM HAVING MOTION LIGHTING FOR SECURITY OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2022. GREAT LOTS OF NON-CONFORMING GOING ON. OKAY ANOTHER QUESTION DOES DOES THAT SO THAT NIGHTTIME STANDARD IN PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL THEN IS THAT THAT THE NEW ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE THAT IT'S WITHIN 100 FEET YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT 550 FEET AND SO THAT'S BEING ELIMINATED AND IT'S NOW 200 FEET. YEAH. MAYOR CONSIDER IT ALL. SANDRA SO THEY'RE ELECTRONIC SIGNS ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN 100 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USES IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE IF THEY'RE BETWEEN 101 FEET AND 150 FEET THEN THEY'RE SUBJECT AND VISIBLE. THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THE NIGHTTIME RESTRICTION. BUT IF THEY'RE BEYOND 150 FEET, THOSE SIGNS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY AND CHANGE THEIR MESSAGE UNDER THE DRAFT. BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT BRIGHTNESS STANDARDS AND THOSE BRIGHTNESS STANDARDS IF THEY'RE THOSE KICK INTO PLAY IT HAS TO BE A DOLLAR OR A LOWER LEVEL OF LIGHT INTENSITY WHEN IT'S WITHIN 500 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL USES. OKAY SORRY. WE'RE THROWING SO MANY SO SO CAN'T CAN'T BE ILLUMINATED IN 100 WITHIN 100 FEET CAN BE ILLUMINATED BUT IT HAS TO BE TURNED OFF OR OR STATIC IF IT'S 101 250 IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT IT'S GOOD TO GO BUT WHAT WAS THE FOURTH ONE 500 AND SOMETHING TARGET JUST MAKING SURE I HAVE THEM ALL MAYOR COUNCILOR NELSON THE LOWER LEVEL OF YES IS WITHIN FIVE OKAY GREATER THAN 500 FEET. BUT I WANT TO WANT TO MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION THAT THE THE SIGNS WITH BETWEEN 101 FEET 150 FEET THAT'S ELECTRONIC SIGNS ONLY AND THAT'S NOT JUST YOUR STANDARD LIT SIGN A STANDARD LIT SIGN COULD BE LIT REMAIN LIT. IT WOULD JUST BE SUBJECT TO THE BRIGHTNESS RIGHT. OKAY SO I HAVE A PARTICULAR CONSTITUENT THAT PROBABLY CAME TO YOU ALL AT SOME POINT A CHURCH AT 86TH AND FREMONT WHO WANTS AN ELECTRONIC SIGN OUT THERE AND SO I JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS SO THAT I CAN HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHETHER THEY SHOULD COME BACK TO YOU OR NOT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO BRING UP DOES REQUIREMENT H GIVE OUR GOOD AT SCHMIDT MUSIC WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR WHEN THEY CAME COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ? FORGIVE ME. LET ME YEAH YEAH YEAH I WILL SAY WITHOUT KNOWING WHICH EXACT I THINK IT'S THE AREA THE SIGN AREA YES. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE THE MONUMENT BECAUSE THE MONUMENT ITSELF WAS ALREADY MADE OF STONE ETC. THEY JUST WANTED TO REPLACE THE FRAME IN THERE AND WE SAID NO AND SO NOW THEY STILL TO THIS DAY HAVE A FLOPPY BANNER SIGN UP THERE AND I'M SURE THEY'D BE EXCITED TO HEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY SOLVED THIS FOR THEM. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILOR DALE SO THEIR ISSUE WAS HATE AND THE NEW CODE WILL ALLEVIATE ISSUE FANTASTIC. YES THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU COULD SPEAK MORE TO WHY PLANNING COMMISSION REMOVED THE THE BILLBOARD LANGUAGE. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO I THINK THAT THEY HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. THERE WAS ONE OR TWO MEMBERS THAT WERE ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT SUPPORTIVE OF IT INITIALLY IN TERMS OF THAT THEY THEY FELT IT WAS SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WANTED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT BLOOMINGTON AS A PRETTY DYNAMIC ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT. BUT THEN AS THEY CONTINUED TO DISCUSS IT ON AND ON THEY ALSO ALSO FELT LIKE SOME OF THOSE PROVISIONS ARE KIND OF REFLECTIVE OF PASS THROUGH COMMUNITIES I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MEANT MORE KIND OUTER METRO IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE DIGITAL CONVERSIONS OR JUST MORE BILLBOARDS, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY I DON'T WANT TO READ TOO FAR BETWEEN THE LINES BUT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW SMALLER DWELL TIMES AS WELL AS ALLOWING FOR DIGITAL CONVERSION BE SUPPORTIVE OF BUSINESS BUT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT KIND OF THE ESTHETICS OF IT. SO ULTIMATELY THEY AS A AS GROUP AND IT WAS FOUR MEMBERS DECIDED TO STRIKE THAT OKAY OH I'LL LEAVE COMMENTS FOR THE SAVE YOUR COMMENTS IF YOU COULD PLEASE WELL YEAH ANY OTHER OF MR. JOHNSON HERE IF NOT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON COUNCIL TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING I WILL OFFICIALLY CALL THIS FOR ITEM 4.2. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE CITY CODE AMENDMENTS ARE A SIGN ORDINANCE UPDATE SO FOLKS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS I THINK YOU WERE HERE DURING THE FIRST ROUND OF HOUSEKEEPING STUFF SO PLEASE IN 5 MINUTES WHAT AM I FORGETTING? THAT'S IT. IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE AND OFF WE GO SAME SAME KIND OF THING AND WHEN I CUT YOU OFF I'M NOT BEING MEAN. THAT'S THE OTHER ONE I WANTED FAIRLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS MATTHEW WHILE I AM WITH CLEAR CHANNEL OUTDOOR WE WANT TO OPERATE ONLY FOUR BILLBOARD STRUCTURES LOCATED IN THE CITY. I'VE JUST A FEW COMMENTS TONIGHT CERTAINLY FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOUR CITY STAFF NEXT BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH RECOGNIZE THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED COMPLEX PROJECT I REALLY MY COMMENTS REVOLVE AROUND OUR REQUEST TO UPGRADE AND MODERNIZE OUR EXISTING BILLBOARDS THEIR NON-CONFORMING BILLBOARDS HAVE BEEN IN CITY A LONG TIME THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN A LONG TIME AS NONCONFORMING USERS WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE THEM. AS WE'VE DONE IN MANY COMMUNITIES AROUND YOU WE'VE UPGRADED OUR SIGNS IN BNSVILLE, MINNEAPOLIS EAGAN AT THE AIRPORT AND TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE TWIN CITIES. WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATE 82 SIGNS THE MAIN REASONS WE WANT TO UPGRADE OUR SIGNS EXCUSE ME ONE IS IT DOES ALLOW MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO ADVERTISE CURRENTLY 75% OF OUR ADVERTISERS ARE LOCAL SO WE ARE A KEY TOOL FOR THOSE KEY MARKETING TOOL FOR THOSE BUSINESSES. SECONDLY, DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ALLOW US TO FURTHER OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITIES WE WORK IN OR THE COMMUNITIES WE WORK IN WE PROVIDE COMMUNITY MESSAGING. YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC RELATIONS EARLIER. BURNS WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE. THEY USE IT FOR THEIR MEETINGS, THEIR EVENTS, COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND PUBLIC EDUCATION. SO EVERY COMMUNITY WE'RE IN WE GIVE THEM TIME ON THE BOARDS IN ADDITION TO CITIES WE DO WE PARTNER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. WE'RE ONE OF THE FASTEST WAYS TO GET AMBER ALERTS OUT. WE DO BELIEVE OUR SIGNS IN YOUR CITY THERE LOCATED IN APPROPRIATE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CORRIDORS WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO WHERE WE DO DIGITAL SIGNS. WE DON'T INTERFERE WITH RESIDENTIAL AND WE'RE ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH SAFETY. WE'VE PROVEN WE CAN OPERATE THESE SAFELY SINCE WE PUT THE FIRST ONES IN IN 2006. SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON WHAT THAT 18 YEARS THERE ARE THE MAIN THINGS ARE CHANGES WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT ONE WOULD BE THE CONVERSION OF DIGITAL OR I'M SORRY NON-CONFORMING BILLBOARDS. THE DIGITAL SECOND IS THE DWELL TIMES WE REQUESTING AN 8/2 CALL TIME THAT IS BASED ON SAFETY STUDIES BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION. DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ARE ALLOWED BY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION THEY'RE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW ONLY SUBJECT TO LOCAL LAW OF COURSE. SO TROY, MY COMMENTS THE LAST THING I WANT TO ADD IS WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION THE MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL CHAMBER WHO REPRESENTS BLOOMINGTON BUSINESSES THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS READ IT AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THESE ARE ALL THE COMMENTS I ALSO HAD A LETTER I SUBMITTED BUT REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S CONSIDERATION AS OF THESE REQUESTS THANK YOU THANK YOU MR.. WELL MR. BENJI GOOD EVENING WELCOME. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M KIND OF BENJI WITH CROSS HENDERSON REALTY COMPANY PRESIDENT VICE PRESIDENT OF PROPERTIES AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THE SIGN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE MET AND TALKED OVER THE MANY POINTS AND INCLUDING WHAT'S IN OUR LETTER AND WHAT'S IN YOUR IN YOUR PACKET STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A NUMBER OF THESE ITEMS WE SUPPORT SO THAT AFTER THE G TWO AND THE H TWO WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THOSE AND AGAIN THANKS TO NICK AND GLENN FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK US. HOWEVER, THERE'S ALWAYS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO COME AROUND AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YOU KNOW AS LOOK AT THIS CARL SANDERSON WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES WERE GRANDFATHERED IN SO TO SPEAK ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. WE HAVE CERTAIN FLEXIBILITIES . SO I REALLY TRIED TO LOOK AT THE SAME CODE AS YOU KNOW WHAT IT BE FROM YOU KNOW, MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SO ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS HOW TO HANDLE TWO STOREY MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS FOR EXAMPLE WE ONLY IN ARMIDALE CENTER AND 84TH IN ARMIDALE LIKE JIMMY JOHNSON PAN CHARLES AND THAT BEEN REDESIGNED TO BE FOR AND WITH THAT YOU'RE ENCOURAGING MULTISTORY REDEVELOPMENT WHICH COULD BE RETAIL ON THE FIRST LEVEL AND THEN SERVICE OR OFFICE ON THE SECOND LEVEL AND I'VE PUT TOGETHER I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN DO A SAILING THING OR ANY CAN WE GET THE OVERHEAD CAMERA PLEASE. THERE WE GO. IF YOU JUST LAID IT RIGHT ON THE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE MOVE THERE. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT AREA. TURN AROUND THERE. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S PERFECT RIGHT WHERE IT IS. OKAY. THE FIRST PART OF THIS TABLE AS WELL AS IS ON PAGE 350 OF YOUR PACKET BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU DO IS YOU HAVE UNDER THE CURRENT CODE IF YOU SAY 100 FOOT STORE OR EXISTING BACK UP A LITTLE BIT IF YOU HAVE A TWO STOREY OR LARGER BUILDING WE USE THAT 25 FOOT EXAMPLE SOFT TWO STOREY THEY GO THE MAXIMUM I WAS 225 FEET IN HEIGHT YOU COULD HAVE 50 YOU WOULD HAVE 50% LESS SIGNAGE THAN IN THE CURRENT CODE BUT THE ON THAT IF YOU HAVE A TWO STOREY BUILDING WITH SAY RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND OFFICE ABOVE YOU WOULD NEED PROPER SIGNAGE FOR BOTH BUSINESSES AND THERE IS NO EXTRA FACTOR THAT YEAR 125 LINEAR FEET WOULD BE CUT IN HALF AS YOU HAD TO SHARE IT WITH THE UNIT ABOVE YOU. SO AS A QUICK EXAMPLE IF YOU HAVE A 20 FOOT JIMMY JOHN'S THEY GET 25 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNAGE BUT UNDER THIS NEW IF YOU HAD AN OFFICE BUILDING OR SERVICE ABOVE IT WITH THE SAME 20 SQUARE FEET THEY HAVE TO SHARE OF THAT 25 SQUARE FEET. SO THERE'S JUST A LITTLE INEQUITY IN HOW THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE HANDLED SO AS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT THE SIMPLER SOLUTION THAT I TO THIS AS BILL HAD MENTIONED TO TRY AND COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS WAS IF YOU HAVE A TWO STOREY OR 25 FOOT BUILDING GO TO A TWO POINT ALL IT DOESN'T QUITE DOUBLE IT BUT IT FIXES OF THE INADEQUATE ACTIVITY FROM INSIDE OF A 50% DIFFERENCE YOU'RE NOW DOWN TO A 20% DIFFERENCE SO I WOULD TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THAT MATTER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FREE TO REACH OUT THANK THANK YOU MR. VINCI. MR. GRIFFITH. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'RE SPLITTING OUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE MR. VINCI WAS CUT OFF AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH 3 MINUTES. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DOUBLE SHOT CLOCK HERE BUT THANK YOU. AS THE HIGHLAND THE HIGHLAND SUPPORTERS LIKE BILL GRIFFITH HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU AGAIN THIS EVENING. JUST QUICKLY AND THIS IS A PRETTY ITEM BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM I KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT ITEM TO RETAILERS AND THAT'S THE TEMPORARY SIGN PROVISIONS AS WE SAID IN THE WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST FOR TENANTS TO SHOPPING CENTERS THAT HAVE 20 OR MORE TENANTS INSTEAD OF 120 DAYS THAT YOU MOVE TO TOTAL IN TEN DAYS. IN A LETTER WE ACTUALLY ASK FOR 240 BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE, WORKING WITH STAFF WE'RE REQUESTING ONLY 30 MORE DAYS FOR THE LARGER AND IT WOULD BE UP TO 210 DAYS TOTAL. NOW IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE TYPICAL TENANT THEY MIGHT BE ADVERTISING THAT THEY'RE COMING TO BLOOMINGTON, THEY MIGHT BE ADVERTISING A SEASONAL SALE LIKE HALLOWEEN AT THE PARTY STORE. AND SO IF YOU HAVE TWO TENANTS OCCUPYING 60 DAYS, YOU BASICALLY HAVE MAXED OUT 220 DAYS. NOW THERE CAN BE SOME OVERLAP . YOUR STAFF CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS 30 MORE DAYS 30 MORE DAYS OF TEMPORARY SIGNAGE AND THE RATIONALE FOR LIMITING TEMPORARY SIGNAGE IS VISUAL AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT MOST OF THE THAT YOU SEE THEY'RE USING NATIONAL BRANDS. THEY'RE USING BRAND STANDARDS IF NOT NATIONAL LOCAL BRAND STANDARDS AND SIGNS THAT ARE REALLY INTENDED TO GO FOR MUCH LONGER THAN 30, 60 OR 90 DAYS. SO REALLY IN TERMS OF VISUAL CLUTTER, WE THINK THAT ALLOWING 30 MORE DAYS OF SIGNAGE FOR THOSE LARGER SHOPPING CENTERS THAT HAVE 20 OR MORE TENANTS THAT WOULD INCLUDE BOTH VALLEY WEST AND SOUTH TOWN IT'S A MODEST REQUEST IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THOSE ALTERNATE OFFSETS TO HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THIS EVENING. THOSE ARE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES. WE'VE WORKED THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH EXAMPLES. THEY'RE VERY SOUND. I THINK THEY ARE IN THE SPIRIT OF A BUSINESS FRIENDLY ORDINANCE AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MR. GRIFFITH. I APPRECIATE IT. LEAVING BLOCK MAYOR BUSSEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MARK STEVENS AND I'M THE REAL ESTATE MANAGER OUT FRONT MEDIA HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES WHERE I HAD NATIONAL OUT-OF-HOME ADVERTISING FIRM AND WE HAVE TWO OFFICES HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES AND WE HAVE ABOUT 230 BILLBOARDS TOTAL. 30 OF THOSE ARE DIGITAL SO WE HAVE 20% MARKET SHARE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND I DO LIKE MATT HAVE TO APPLAUD THE CITY FOR TRYING MAKE THE SIGN ORDINANCE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND ACROSS THE BOARD IT'S A ZIG ZAG MASSIVE DAZE IS REVIEWING THAT BUT I GUESS WHAT THE WAY THAT OUR COMPANY LOOKS AT IT RIGHT NOW CLEAR CHANNEL OWNS AND MAINTAINS THE THE FOUR BILLBOARDS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE'VE HAD A PLEASURE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE CITY AND THE MINNESOTA OR THE WORLD EXPO COMMITTEE BUILDING SOME BRIDGES AS THE BRAND MEDIA SPONSOR IN THAT BIT EFFORT AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WE ALL CAME UP SHORT BUT WE WE LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS IN BLOOMINGTON AND RIGHT NOW TO THE ORDINANCE THERE'S BASICALLY A MORATORIUM ON ANY NEW BILLBOARDS LET ALONE THE EXISTING OLD STATIC BILLBOARDS TO DIGITAL. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF YOUR CITY AND THE AMOUNT OF MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND INTERSTATES, YOU KNOW THE WHOLE GOAL OF THE OUT OF HOME ADVERTISING INDUSTRY IS FOR THAT ADVERTISEMENT TO BE SEEN BY PEOPLE ON THE HIGHWAY. SO LIKE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WE DON'T LIKE TO BE AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS OR HOTELS OR WHAT HAVE YOU BECAUSE WE ANGLE AND WE CAN DUE TO THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY WE CAN ADJUST LIGHT WE CAN DO THE AMBER ALERTS AND EVERYTHING THAT MATT SAID AND FOR INSTANCE LAST YEAR PUT UP A BRAND NEW DIGITAL BILLBOARD IN PLYMOUTH ON 1/16 GREEN AND ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER WE GOT A CALL FROM THE CITY THE CITY MANAGER HE SAID HEY WE GOT A COMPLAINT AND I HAVE TO ACT ON IT AND I CALLED HIM BACK RIGHT AWAY. HE WAS VERY SURPRISED THAT I CALLED HIM BACK RIGHT AWAY. BUT WE TALKED TO OUR SPOKANE, OUR GROUP IN SPOKANE THAT THAT CONTROLS IT VIA COMPUTER. I SAID HEY WE GOT TO WE GOT TO WE GOT TO TURN THIS DOWN. WE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT. WE GOT TO NICK GUN WHICH YOU POINT YOUR SHOOT YEAH MEASURE THE LIGHT SO THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE ABILITY COMPANIES LIKE MINE AND MAPS YOU KNOW NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE US LET'S BE HONEST A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE BILLBOARDS BUT THEY DO SERVE A PURPOSE THEY ARE A VERY AFFORDABLE WAY TO HAVE MAINLY SMALL BUSINESSES WITHIN COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO ADVERTISE IT'S A LOT CHEAPER THAN TV OR RADIO OR EVEN PRINT AND WITH THE PR SESSION THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER I MEAN THE ONE THING THAT SHOULD BE ON THERE I MEAN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 300 LIKES OR 3000 LIKES. YOU KNOW HOW MANY CARS DRIVE FOR 94 AND 35 W EVERY DAY THAT SEE THAT MESSAGE AND THE OUT HOME I MEAN IT'S A GREAT MEDIA MEDIUM FOR ADVERTISING SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT HERE WE'RE LATE IN THE SESSION THAT YOU CAN DOING A STRATEGIC AND SMART EXPANSION AND AND THE ONE THING THAT OUR COMPANY WOULD DO IS FIRST OF ALL FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WOULD LOOK FOR CITY OWNED LAND A CITY OWNED LAND THAT ABUTS A MAJOR THAT'S NOT BY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD BE OUR LESSOR WE WOULD SIGN A LEASE WITH YOU THERE WOULD BE FINANCIAL BENEFIT DIRECT FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS WELL AS THE FREE ADVERTISING THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD RECEIVE AS WELL. SO WE REALLY DO LOOK INTO THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP AND A WAY TO DO SMART PARTNERSHIP THAT DOESN'T AGGRAVATE YOUR CONSTITU BUT ACTUALLY DOES A SERVICE TO THE CITY. VERY GOOD. THANKS. THANK YOU. MR. STEVENS. OTHERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS. MR. SABLE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE TONIGHT? MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS NO ONE ON THE PHONE. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS. COUNSEL NO ONE ON THE PHONE NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC ON ON 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MISS MERCER MAYOR BUSSEY I COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 SO COUNCIL ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO CONSIDER THE THE STAFF SUPPORTED OPTIONS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT AND LOOKED AT A FINE JOB WITH IT AND I WILL SAY MR. JOHNSON YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO SCIENCE MY GOODNESS I'M IMPRESSED WITH THAT THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO DO TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTES. I'M IMPRESSED BY THAT. WELL DONE. THANK YOU. SO QUESTIONS ON THAT AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE ABOUT POSSIBLE CHANGES. I THINK WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE DIGITAL CONVERSION POSSIBILITY OF DWELL TIMES, THE ADDITIONAL BILLBOARDS, THE TWO STOREY BUILDINGS AND THEN THE TEMPORARY SAME PROVISIONS. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAYBE GET THE THINGS UNDER OUR BELT HERE THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY AGREE ON AND THE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING MR. JOHNSON MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME HERE AGAIN WITH THE WITH THE SLIDES BECAUSE I KNOW THE REQUESTS I AS WELL AS I COULD TO CATCH UP WITH THE BOARD TO KEEP UP WITH THE REQUESTS AND H AND OTHERS HERE YOU REMEMBER THERE'S A F AND I CAN GO THROUGH JUNE H A VERY GOOD SO THIS WAS REQUEST AFTER THE THE MACS INDIVIDUAL SIGN SIZE THE CHANGES YOU CAN SEE IN THE IN THE YELLOW AND STAFF IS SUPPORTING OPTION TWO THAT APPLY THE RESTRICTIONS ONLY ONE IN PROXIMAL PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USERS DISCUSSIONS ON THIS OR CONCERNS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION WHICH IS I DON'T I GUESS I CAN'T VISUALIZE WHAT LIKE 1.25 SQUARE FEET PER LINEAR FOOT OF A BUILDING IS SO KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO KNOW BUT WE'RE WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING THEY COULD MAKE VERY BIG SIGN AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER BECAUSE UNLESS IT'S WITHIN 250 FEET OF A DWELLING OR DESIGNATED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. MR. JOHNSON IS THAT THE CORRECT STATEMENT? MAYOR COUNCILOR ALESSANDRA SO JUST IDENTIFYING WELL I'M KIND OF GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF. KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE MAXIMUM INDIVIDUAL CAPS ARE ALSO TIED THE OVERALL BUILDING THING RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S CREATING A BUCKET OF TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT A BUILDING CAN DRAW FROM AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLOY THAT IN TEN SIGNS THEY CAN DO TWO SIGNS, THEY CAN DO ONE SIGN. BUT WHAT THIS IS PROPOSING DO IS WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGER BUILDING I DON'T WANT TO PICK ON ONE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY THAT I SHOWED A SLIDE OF BUT IT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT OUTCOME FROM HAPPENING WHEN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES WHERE THAT SCALE JUST NOT BE APPROPRIATE. AND SO THAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND IT BY THE WAY, JUST WITH RESPECT TO ALSO A LITTLE BIT CARL SANDERSON CALCULATIONS ABOUT KIND OF HOW MUCH SIGNAGE ALLOWANCE THE EXISTING HAS VERSUS THE NEW CODE . I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE OLD CODE HAVE HIGHER SIGNAGE ALLOWANCES. THE FACT IS THAT STAFF'S EXPERIENCE AND A FREQUENT BASIS THAT'S ANECDOTAL BUT FREQUENTLY IS THAT A LOT OF PROPERTIES LEAVE A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE TABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR SIGN AREA BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T FIT FROM A SCALE PERSPECTIVE BY USING WALL AREA ELEVATIONS AND PERCENTAGES YOU CAN HAVE A VERY YOU CAN HAVE A SITUATION ON PEN AVENUE THAT OCCURS AND SO WHERE TO SET THE DIALHE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER LINEAL FOOT OF THE TENANT OR BUILDING FRONTAGE THE 1.25 REPRESENTS WE H A VERY LARGE SPREADSHEET THAT WE CREATED OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT SIGN PERMITS ALL OVER TOWN AND BASICALLY WE HAD DIFFERENT MULTIPLICATION FACTORS, WE HAD ONE WE HAD 1.25 WE HAD 1.4, WE HAD 1.5 AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS AN EQUILIBRIUM OR A SWEET SPOT OF BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL GUIDANCE WHEN WE WERE DOING THAT POLLING ACTIVITY IF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT SAID IS THE EXISTING SIGNS IN BLOOMINGTON TOO SMALL JUST RIGHT OR TOO BIG WHICH IS NOT OVER OVERLY SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO THAT EXERCISE. BUT THE RESPONSE TO THAT UNIFORMLY WAS THAT WE THINK THE SIGN AREAS ARE RIGHT AND SO UTILIZING THIS 1.25 BY A NUMBER BY A VERY LARGE BULK NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT WE REVIEWED AND WHEN 90 OVER 90% OF THOSE SIGNS WERE WERE ACCEPTABLE UNDER THIS 1.25 OR IN CASES OF MIXED USE AREAS ACTUALLY THE 1.0 EVEN THAT'S WHAT LED US TO BELIEVE THAT WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. BUT I'LL JUST CIRCLE BACK TO MY COMMENT ONE LAST TIME ABOUT GETTING THE RIGHT STRUCTURE IN PLACE IF THIS IS FOUND TO BE NONFUNCTIONAL ONE YEAR FROM NOW IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO DIAL UP 1.25 TO 1.4 OR 1.5 DEPENDING ON WHERE WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION SENT OUT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO I'M REQUEST OUT OF THIS MAX INDIVIDUAL SCIENTIST ARE WE OKAY WITH THIS WITH OPTION TWO? YES AS A STAFF SUPPORTED TWO EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? VERY GOOD. WE'RE NOT AN OPTION OR REQUEST GEE ONCE AGAIN THE STAFF SUPPORT IS FOR OPTION TWO AND THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE NO CHANGES IT MAKES THE CHANGES FOR CLASS FIVE THE AND THE CHANGE IS LISTED THERE ABOUT THE SIZE AND THE THE REDLINED VERSION THERE YOU CAN SEE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT I'M HEARING NO QUESTIONS AND SO CAN I ASSUME AGREEMENT LET'S ASSUME AGREEMENT MOVE UNDER OPTION EIGHT OR REQUEST H ONCE AGAIN OPTION ONE IS NO CHANGE OPTION TWO THE STAFF SUPPORTED SOME AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGES ARE LISTED REGARDING AREAS PER SIGN FOR CLASS THREE AND CLASS FIVE AND THEN THE STRIKE OUT ON THE TABLE NOTES AS IT RELATES TO SIGNS ORIENTED TOWARD 35 W FOR 94 OR TRUNCATE OR 77 IT WOULD BE COOL WITH THAT AS WELL AND I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT SAME LANGUAGE IS REFLECTED IN THE PYLON TABLE AS WELL. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. NOW ON THE OTHER REQUESTS THAT YOU HAD THE A THROUGH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON WE DIDN'T GET INTO THOSE BUT THOSE ARE THOSE WERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS IN AGREEMENT OR THEY DID AND THE CHANGES WERE NOT NECESSARILY SIGNIFICANT. IS THAT AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT PHRASING. SO THE OTHER THAN THE ITEMS THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU THESE THREE REQUESTS IF YOU WERE ADOPT THE REMAINED THE BULK OF THE ORDINANCE OTHERWISE IT WOULD JUST BE FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WANT TO HAVE EXTRA SLIDES ON WHAT THOSE OTHER ISSUES ARE IF YOU WANT TO KEY IN ON SPECIFIC ONES WE CAN DO THAT OR IF IT'S EASIER CAN GO THROUGH THEM. I'LL FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION COUNSEL THOUGHTS CAN WE SEE THE LIST AGAIN PLEASE ? OOPS FORGIVE ME. THERE WE GO. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU, MAYOR WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TALKING MORE ABOUT THE BILLBOARDS OVER THE REQUEST BE THE BILLBOARD DIGITAL CONVERSION. I THINK I BE IN FAVOR OF TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. YEAH SO COUNCILMEMBER SO I WOULD BE ACTUALLY I DISAGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH ALLOWING THE FOR LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING BILLBOARD SIGNS TO BE TO MAKE THE DIGITAL CONVERSION. I WOULD GO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON DWELL TIME BUT I FEEL LIKE FOR THOSE THAT ALREADY EXIST IN OUR COMMUNITY WHY NOT LET THEM UPGRADE ESPECIALLY I THINK THAT THE THE POINTS MADE AROUND EVEN THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE MORE OPPORTUNITY I THINK IS COMPELLING NOW LIKE REMOVING THE MORATORIUM I WOULDN'T SAY I WOULD I WOULD NOT BE COMFORTABLE DOING THAT TONIGHT . I THINK THERE WOULD JUST NEED TO BE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING DISCUSSIONS AND ALL OF THAT BUT SPECIFIC TO THAT THE CONVERSION I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. COUNCILMAN ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT? YEAH, I THINK IT COST WILL OCCUR SPOT ON WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THAT I THINK WE'VE GOT A YOU KNOW FOR IF WE SAY WE WANT TO YOU KNOW KIND OF WORK WITH BUSINESSES SMALL BUSINESSES YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT OUR OUR OUR SMALL BUSINESS INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE WITH OUR FIRE STATION. I THINK THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THAT IS HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND AND THAT COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY BE ANOTHER REVENUE STREAM AS WELL. SO I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING THAT DISCUSSION THAT SURE WANT TO DO THAT POLICYMAKING HERE AT THE DAIS BUT I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND I GUESS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR ALSO OF THE DIGITAL POSSIBILITIES FOR THE FOUR THAT WE HAVE EXISTING IN OUR COMMUNITY I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THEY'VE GOT A LONG TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SEEN ADDITIONAL ISSUES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO BLOOMINGTON OR EVEN ADJACENT TO BLOOMINGTON SO I'M FINE WITH THAT. I WOULD BE FINE WITH THE DIGITAL CONVERSION PERMITTED LANGUAGE THAT WAS STRUCK BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE REINSERTED INTO INTO THE AMENDMENTS HERE AND I'M GOING TO TRUST MR. TABERSKI TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THIS AND THEN AS WE MAKE THE MOTION MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING STRAIGHTENED AWAY TO YOU COULD COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MR. MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M FINE WITH THAT AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ON THE WORK PLAN I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING IT ANY ON BILLBOARD EXPANSION I THOUGHT FEEL LIKE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION AROUND EXPO TIME AND THEN WE TABLED IT I THINK DO DO WE HAVE IT IN THE WORK PLAN RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A STUDY OF IF WE DID EXPAND BILLBOARDS IN THE CITY WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE OR ANYTHING DO WE HAVE THAT ON THE PLAN I'M SEEING MR.. MR.. MARKER SHAKE HIS HEAD SAYING NO NO WE DO NOT OKAY WE DO NOT ALL RIGHT. MIGHT BE WORTH CONSIDERING IF WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED DO THIS YEAR BUT IF NOT MAYBE BRING IT BACK FOR NEXT YEAR I GUESS BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING I, I AGREE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ROOM FOR FEW MORE BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT WITHOUT KNOWING ONE WHERE WE THOUGHT THE PLACEMENT WOULD BE BEST WHERE WE THOUGHT THE SIZE WOULD BE BEST AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE TALK TO PEOPLE AROUND THAT AREA TO GET THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO LET'S MAKE SURE I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET BYTES IN ORDER HERE. SO THE NOTION OF DIGITAL THE FOUR THAT WE THINK EVERYBODY IS EVERYBODY COOL WITH THE DIGITAL CONVERSION, THE UPDATING OF THE EXISTING BILLBOARDS TO DIGITAL BILLBOARDS ARE WE OKAY WITH BECAUSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED AGAIN SAID THAT WE'D BE GOING AS A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION HERE BUT WE'RE WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT VERY GOOD . TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, ABOUT THE THE STUDY FOR ADDITIONAL BILLBOARDS IT'S NOT ON THE IT'S NOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGREE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT HERE AND NOW BECAUSE FRANKLY THAT'S A CAN OF WORMS WE DO NOT WANT TO OPEN UP LATE ON A MONDAY NIGHT WITHOUT ALL KINDS OF WORK AHEAD OF THIS SO IT MIGHT SOMETHING WE COULD COMMIT TO AT LEAST TALKING ABOUT OR LOOKING INTO IN THE FUTURE. BUT TONIGHT I DON'T THINK WOULD BE THE TIME OR THE PLACE TO MAKE THAT DECISION NOW ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ADD BILLBOARDS IN THE CITY. NO, I WAS JUST RECOMMENDING STUDY SO YEAH I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE OTHER QUESTION REGARDING DWELL TIMES SO THE 8 SECONDS FOR WHAT IS IT FOR 8 SECONDS FOR TEN WORDS OR LESS IS THAT IT? AND THEN I'M 10 MINUTES FOR A DIGITAL IMAGE AND MORE THAN TEN WORDS. IS THAT CORRECT, MAYOR THAT'S CORRECT FOR STANDARD ELECTRONIC SCIENCE BUT I'D NOTE THAT BILLBOARDS HAVE A JUST FLAT TEN MINUTE DWELL TIME STANDARD SO IT'S ACTUALLY TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT STANDARDS CURRENTLY AS IT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED. NOW I WILL JUST THROW IT DWELL TIMES I I'VE DRIVEN ENOUGH I'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH DIFFERENT CITIES THAT HAVE HAD DWELL TIMES MUCH LESS THAN 10 MINUTES THERE'S NOT BLOODSHED EVERYWHERE AT ONCE YOU KNOW BY HAVING THESE SHORTER DWELL TIMES PERSONALLY THIS IS ME TALKING I WOULD BE OKAY SHORTENING THOSE 12 TIMES. I MEAN I TO TO SEE SOME I MEAN YOU GO TO SOME CITIES AND YOU ACTUALLY SEE LIVE VIDEO AND CHANGING EVERY YOU KNOW BY THE MINUTE AND AND AGAIN I THINK IT WORKS THERE AND I DON'T THINK IT CAUSES SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC PROBLEMS I DON'T THINK IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. I WOULD I WOULD BE OPEN TO REDUCING THE DWELL TIMES BOTH FOR THE THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE AND FOR THE THE BILLBOARDS THAT WE JUST KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE UPDATED BILLBOARDS. THOUGHTS ON THAT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER OH THANK YOU MAYOR. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IF I RECALL THERE WAS A STUDY DONE A NATIONAL STUDY ON DWELL TIMES AND SAFETY AND I THINK IT WAS MUCH LESS THAN 10 MINUTES. SO I MEAN I WOULD BE I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. MR. FERRARI YOU HAD YOUR MAIN ACCOUNT FOR A HALF SECOND. MR. MAYOR I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THE THE VARY. YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN THE IN THE MATERIALS FROM CITY TO CITY BUT YOU KNOW VERY NEARBY AT THE METROPOLITAN AIRPORTS COMMISSION WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF OF ONE ENTITY THAT HAS NEEDS CERTAIN STANDARDS AND THAT JUST HAPPENS TO SHARE BORDER WITH US. RIGHT. AND SO TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, I DON'T KNOW THAT SEE A LOT OF MAYHEM ON THE ROADS AS A RESULT. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. FOR APPROVING COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. I AGREE COMPLETELY. WE WANTED TO LIKE TRIM IT DOWN. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE MAKE IT 20 SECONDS AS OPPOSED TO EIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S I DON'T IT'S GOING TO BE EASY. I MEAN UNLESS YOU'RE ON THE STRIP IN VEGAS, IT'S NOT A STAND. IT'S NOT A HAZARD IF YOU'RE ON THE STRIP IN VEGAS THERE'S ALREADY A HAZARD. SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S ANOTHER? RIGHT. BUT THAT WAS THE EXAMPLE I WAS THINKING JUST TO SEE HOW QUICKLY AND DRAMATICALLY THOSE CHANGED. YES, ABSOLUTELY. WELL YEAH NEVER MIND THE NEON AND YEAH. EXACTLY EVERYTHING ELSE. SO YEAH I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR US TO REDUCE THAT YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S 8 SECONDS FOR TEN WORDS OR LESS AND 20 SECONDS FOR FULL SIGNAGE OR WHATEVER. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE I FEEL LIKE THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE A YEAR TO FIGURE IT OUT IF WE GOT THE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT IT WASN'T GOOD COULD ALWAYS EXTEND IT AND RATHER ERR ON THE SIDE OF MAXIMIZING THE REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESSES GIVING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THE CHANCE TO BE ON THERE. YOU KNOW THAT'S IF IT'S A 22ND THING THAT'S LIKE EVERY 2 MINUTES SIX PEOPLE GET EYES ON THAT LIKE YOU KNOW SIX YOU KNOW BUSINESSES CAN BE SEEN LIKE THAT SEEMS A GOOD THING I'M THROWING THAT OUT FOR PLUS OR MINUS WHATEVER BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S A THAT'S A MUCH BIGGER OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAN IF WE'RE TALKING 10 MINUTES AGREE COUNCILMEMBER LEMON OH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A MAJORITY UP HERE. THE ONLY THING I REQUEST AS A THREE IF WE COULD VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY AS AN AMENDMENT SO I CAN VOTE AGAINST THAT AND THEN WE CAN MOVE RIGHT ON ALONG WITH THE REST OF IT. SO I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THIS DOWN UNLESS I CAN GET CONSISTENT CONSENSUS HERE ARE WE'RE OKAY WITH DWELL TIMES AND IF WE PUT IT AT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SUGGESTED 22ND EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT OKAY TO TO VOTE ON THAT. I THINK SO MR. TO ASK HIM TO TRUST YOU AS WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT THAT WILL VOTE ON THAT ONE SEPARATELY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MR. JOHNSON HERE I JUST FOR AND AGAIN THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD AND MAYBE TO HELP KEVIN OUT TOO BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE'S TWO SEPARATE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALIGNING BOTH THE HAVE THE SAME TO ALL TIMES FOR BILLBOARDS AND ELECTRONICS I BELIEVE THAT'S THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. YES, YES, YES. ALL RIGHT THEN THE TWO OTHER ISSUES THAT MR. BENJY BROUGHT UP THE THE SHARED SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR TWO STORY BUILDINGS AND ACTUALLY I'M SORRY MR. GRIFFITH BROUGHT UP THE TEMPORARY SIGN PROVISIONS ADDING THE THE 30 DAYS TO MOVE IT TO 200 AND TOTAL 210 DAYS TOTAL FOR FOUR CENTERS WITH MORE THAN 20 TENANTS. THOUGHTS ON THAT? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I GUESS INTEREST I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT IS A TEMPORARY SIGN WE'RE GETTING INTO 210 DAYS. I MEAN WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT 365 DAYS? I MEAN I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN I JUST DON'T KNOW. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY TO YOU KNOW AS OPPOSED TO THE 240 THAT THEY ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY . WELL, I DON'T SEE THAT CLOSURE NOW HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. MR. JOHNSON, IN ALL YOUR SLIDES OF SIGNS AROUND TOWN DO YOU HAVE ONE SO I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE, MAYOR THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE IN CUSTOMER ENROLLMENT. I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR TEMPORARY SIGN SIZES BUT MAYBE A LITTLE CONTEXT IS HELPFUL. SO OUR CURRENT CODE ONLY HAS TWO STANDARDS 60 DAYS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TENANT SITE AND 120 DAYS FOR A MULTI-TENANT SITE. THAT'S IT. THERE'S NO NUANCE BETWEEN HOW MANY TENANTS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE VIEW THAT A DISCREPANCY OR A PROBLEM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY A SITE THE SIZE KROUSE MANAGES VERSUS A FIVE TENANT BUILDING HAS DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT NEEDS. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE CREATED A TABLE WHEREIN THE AMOUNT OF DAYS WOULD INCREASE FOR LARGER TENANT SITES. KROUSE BROUGHT THIS INFORMATION TO US BEFORE. WE WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE LARGEST PROPERTIES LIKE US OUT TOWN SHOULD HAVE MORE DAYS TO HAVE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE AND TO MR. GRIFFITH'S POINT YES YOU CAN HAVE OVERLAPPING DAYS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE BUSINESSES HAVING TEMPORARY SIGNAGE ON THE SAME DAY THAT DOES NOT DOUBLE VENUE ON THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT YOU'RE YOU HAVE THERE. SO WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY ADOPTED IS THE LANGUAGE ON YOUR SLIDE SAID THEY CREATED A NEW HIGH THE HIGHEST TENANT CATEGORY WHERE THEY EXPANDED FROM 120 DAYS ALL THE WAY UP TO 180 DAYS WHICH OF COURSE IS HALF THE YEAR. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT STAFF IS MORE IN A WAIT AND SEE MODE POSTURE AND DID NOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST WHILE WORKING WITH THEM. IS THAT THE CURRENT STANDARD IN THE COMMUNITY IS 120 DAYS AND WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT THAT IS PRESENTED PROBLEM EVEN AT LARGER TENANT SITES NOW THE OWNERS MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THAT AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY ADVOCATING FOR THEIR INTERESTS AND I RESPECT THAT BUT THIS IS JUST NOT BEEN AN ISSUE THAT IS RAISED A RED FLAG OR A SIREN BLARING FOR US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPANDED WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED AND IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE STANDARD TODAY AND THE STANDARD TODAY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE BROKEN SO THIS IS JUST IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY, RIGHT THAT THEY'RE HAVING SIGNAGE, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO YEAH, THIS WOULD BE LIKE YOUR TEMPORARY COULD BE A TEMPORARY FREESTANDING SIGN SOMETIMES YOU SEE LIKE THE KIND OF WOODEN SIGN UP YOU KNOW THIS DEVELOPMENT IS STARTING OR YOU'LL SEE GRAND OPENING AND SO I GUESS YOU DON'T WANT THAT BEING SAID JUST TO KIND OF CUT TO THE CHASE. YOU KNOW I THINK THE MARKET JUST BEARS OUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT SO IN MY OWN OPINION FAIR 65 DIDN'T MATTER TO ME. LET'S LET IT COME IN A YEAR AND WE CAN HAVE A LOOK AT IT IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR 240 LET'S GIVE THEM TWO FOR YOU. I MEAN I'D BE CURIOUS SEE YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO USE ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT THAT 240 BUT I'D BE OPEN TO I KNOW THEY ASKED FOR 210 NOW BUT IN THEIR ORIGINAL THING THEY SAID TO 40 LET'S SEE WHAT 240 LOOKS LIKE TWO IT LOOKS LIKE OTHERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A REVISED I I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT TOO. OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE PROGRAM HAS BEEN TO BENEFIT SMALL BUSINESSES OR BUSINESSES IN GENERAL SO IF THEY ARE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONS I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO TRY THAT AND SINCE YOU HAVE THEY SCHEDULED A STUDY A YEAR FROM THE SPRING BY MARCH APRIL THEN YOU PERHAPS YOU COULD MAKE SOME CHANGES ADJUSTMENTS TO TO THAT BUT IF THEY'RE TO DATE AND THE WHOLE IDEA TO CREATE NEW SIGNAGE IS TO BENEFIT THE BUSINESSES SO WHY NOT DO THAT SO AND TO BE CLEAR I THINK WHAT MR. GRIFFITH SAID SPECIFICALLY WAS 20 TENANTS AND 210 DAYS SO THERE BE THERE WOULD BE TWO CHANGES HERE. THERE WOULD BE THE BUILDING THE NUMBER OF BUILDING TENANTS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE YOU KNOW, 16 TO 29 HERE AND THEN 30 OR MORE WOULD HAVE THE LARGEST AMOUNT MR. GRIFFITH WAS SUGGESTING 20 TENANTS SO TO REVISE TO REVISE THE TABLE SLIGHTLY IN THAT MANNER AS WELL. YES. REMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING FLIPPANT I DON'T MEAN TO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CARE ABOUT LIKE YOU KNOW WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY LIKE NO ONE TENANT CAN HAVE A SIGN FOR MORE THAN 60 DAYS OR WHATEVER AND IF THERE'S THAT MUCH ROTATION IN A MALL WHERE EVERY 60 DAYS THERE'S A NEW TENANT IN THERE WITH A TEMPORARY SIGN THEY HAVE BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN OUR SIGN ORDINANCE LIKE AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD CARE ABOUT LIKE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DAYS THAT ANY ANY ONE SIGN CAN STAY OUT THERE IF WE'RE SAYING YOU KNOW, LET'S SEE LET ME JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IN SOUTH TOWN RIGHT MARCH MARCH THROUGH YOU KNOW MAY IT'S TENANT NUMBER ONE AND THEN JUNE THROUGH YOU KNOW AUGUST IMAGINE IN THE PANDEMIC WHEN COULDN'T GET A SIGN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF LIKE HOW THAT WOULD HAVE CONFLICTED I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT THE TOTAL SIGN THING MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME BECAUSE IT WE ALREADY HAVE THE NO. ONE INDIVIDUAL PLACE CAN HAVE A SIGN A TEMPORARY SIGN FOR MORE THAN X PERIOD OF DAYS WHICH SEEMS TO ME TO SOLVE THE ACTUAL PROBLEM. SO I GUESS GIVE THEM AS MANY AS YOU WANT I GUESS IS WHERE I'M AT BUT I WOULD BE FINE WITH US NOT WORRYING ABOUT TOTAL NUMBER OF DAYS ANY BUILDING CAN HAVE SIGNAGE. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW. OKAY I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. YEAH. SORRY. LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SOUND FLIP. NO, YOU DID. IT DIDN'T SOUND FOR EPIDEMIC GOOD SENSE AND MAYBE GOOD SENSE. OTHER THOUGHTS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANKS MARY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO JUST DO IT FOR TENANTS A LITTLE WHAT'S SO EXCITING WAS I WAS SLEEPING SO THEN RESTATED FOR ME AND LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE A FOURTH JUMP ON HERE. SURE. WHAT I WAS PROPOSING THAT WE WOULD JUST THE MAXIMUM DURATION WOULD BE LIMITED TO NO TENANT EXCEEDING 60 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A MAXIMUM ON THE ON THE WHOLE STRUCTURE GOT IT . YEAH SO SO YOU LIMIT YOU LIMIT THE THE AMOUNT OF TIME ANYONE TENANT CAN HAVE A TEMPORARY SIGN TO 60 DAYS BUT YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT GOT IT YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SOMEBODIES TEMPORARY SIGN ALL THE LANGUAGE ABOUT PER CALENDAR YEAR BUT IT JUST BASICALLY YOU KNOW INDIVIDUAL TENANT EXCEEDING 60 DAYS CORRECT THAT'S THAT TO ME MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SELF LIMITING IS MY POINT RIGHT. IF YOU HAVE FIVE IF YOU HAVE FIVE PLACES OR SIX PLACES AND EVERY 60 DAYS THERE'S A NEW TEMPORARY SIGN BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS OR THEY'RE CHANGING HANDS, THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED BY THE FOLKS THAT OWN THAT BUILDING AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE SIGN IS GOING TO BE THE THING THEY THINK ABOUT. MR. JOHNSON, THIS BLOW THINGS APART. OH YEAH. OH YEAH. IT'S GETTING WORSE. NO. THREE QUICK POINTS IF I MAY. SORRY FOR MY SORRY FOR MY FLIPPANT RESPONSE. OKAY. THREE QUICK POINTS. ONE IS I THINK THERE'S LESS CONCERN ABOUT BANNERS ABOVE TENANT SPACE. I THINK WITH RESPECT TO MANAGING VISUAL CLUTTER THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT TEMPORARY FREESTANDING SIGNS THAT LITTER ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. AND SO PART OF THE REASON IS THERE'S A LIMITATION ON DAYS IS TO NOT JUST HAVE A NEVER ENDING CAVALCADE OF THESE KIND OF TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT GO UP ALONG THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S THE GREATEST CONCERN WITH RESPECT TO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE IF I MAY MAKE THAT POINT. THE SECOND POINT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT CITIES DO PROVIDE LIMITATIONS TEMPORARY SIGNAGE IS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF PERMANENT SIGNAGE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACTOR TO CONSIDER. AND THEN THIRDLY, JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CLEAN LEGISLATIVE RECORD AND LEGISLATING FROM THE DAIS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT TO KIND OF CAPTURE SOME OF THESE CHANGES ON THE FLY THEN THEN MAYBE MAKING JUST TWEAKS WITHIN THE TABLE WHICH I THINK IS EASIER. I CERTAINLY THINK WE CAN TRY I'M NOT I'M NOT YOU KNOW, LIKE TO GET THIS DONE TONIGHT CERTAINLY BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK AT SOME POINT THERE'S PROBABLY WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE THE RIGHT LANGUAGE. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS, IF I MIGHT IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY SO LOOKING AT THE TABLE THAT'S ON THE SCREEN WILL ELIMINATE THE LEFT COLUMN SO NUMBER OF BUILDING TENANTS WON'T MATTER MAXIMUM DURATION THE RIGHT WILL CHANGE TO JUST SAY 60 DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR ON THE RIGHT TRACK THERE I FOR TEN DAYS PER CALENDAR YEAR PER TENANT YES YEP I THINK WE'RE GOOD NICK AND THEN SO THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. JUST ONE LAST POINT ABOUT THAT KEVIN AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL FREESTANDING SIGNS ALLOWED AT LARGER MULTI-TENANT SITES THAN SINGLE TENANT SITES BUT MAYBE THAT RESOLVES ITSELF I DON'T KNOW. I GUESS WE MR. MAYOR WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE FREESTANDING SIGNS. I WOULD ADMIT THAT MY FLIPPANCY WAS DEDICATED TO OUR TEMPORARY BUILD YOU KNOW, BANNER SIGNS AND LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT FOR NOW BUT IF WE THOUGHT THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO WOULD BE TO KIND OF DELINEATE DELINEATE BETWEEN FREESTANDING SIGNS AND SIGNS ON BUILDINGS MAYBE WE'D SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE IN THE FUTURE. SO IF WE WANT TO RECONSTRUCT THIS MAYBE PROVIDE SOME SOME JUST LIKE TO MAKE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN WHAT WE THINK RIGHT FOR FREESTANDING SIGNS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC AND WHAT WE THINK ARE RIGHT FOR BUILDING WHICH ARE NOT SO PROBLEMATIC. MAYBE WE DO THAT AT SOME FUTURE DATE BUT, YOU KNOW. SO IN THE INTEREST OF COMPROMISE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE 240 DAYS FOR NOW AND GO FROM THERE. BUT I THINK THIS BE YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW I JUST MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THE FUTURE AS IT COMES BACK WHAT A YEAR FROM NOW AND I THINK YOU THINK YOU CAN'T REMEMBER I THINK YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO I'M COMING BACK AROUND YOU KNOW IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN IN THE YEAR AND WE'RE IF WE'RE IF WE'RE TINKERING IT'S ONE THING BUT TO REDRAW THE WHOLE TABLE HERE ON THE FLY I'M NOT NECESSARILY COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND SO I I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT AS A AS A AS JUST AS A POSSIBLE COMPROMISE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD THE THE CHANGE THAT I WOULD SUGGEST UNDER MAXIMUM DURATION FOR 30 OR MORE WHERE IT SAYS 180 DAYS JUST TO MOVE THAT UP TO 210 MAKE THAT CHANGE LEAVE THAT AND THEN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER OF 2025 AND SEE WHERE WE ARE THEN AND SEE IF IF YOU ARE CORRECT WHOEVER MADE THE POINT ABOUT THE MARKET BASICALLY CHECKING THIS OUT AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE AS WELL SO EVERYBODY COOL WITH THAT MAYBE WE COULD GIVE THEM 180 DAYS ON THE 16 TO 29 AS WELL AND BECAUSE THAT FEELS LIKE IT MIGHT ACCOMMODATE ALL THAT THAT MIGHT BE OF CONCERN, I'LL SUPPORT THAT. I WOULD BE I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. SO THE TWO CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE UNDER MAXIMUM DURATION FOR 16 TO 29 AND WILL MOVE UP TO 180 DAYS AND FOR 30 OR MORE WILL MOVE UP TO 210 DAYS. SO NICK, AGAIN, DOES THAT BLOW THE DOORS OFF HERE WE THINK THAT'S THAT IS FROM A LEGISLATIVE RECORD PERSPECTIVE AND I SEE KEVIN NODDING THAT THAT'S MORE THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO US OKAY. AND THEN THE FINAL THING THAT WE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS NOTION OF THE TWO STOREY BUILDINGS AND THE SQUARED THE SHARED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL THE REQUESTS WE HEARD I DON'T THAT WAS THE LEAST TO ME IN TERMS OF THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO TINKER WITH. BUT I CAN BE SWAYED HERE BUT I MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY I COULDN'T VISUALIZE THAT ONE. I MOSTLY I FELT LIKE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND I THOUGHT THE EQUITY THING WAS FINE IN TERMS OF MORE PEOPLE GET THEIR OWN PLACE. BUT THEN I GOT THIS VISION OF LIKE THE SIGNS JUST RUNNING TOGETHER. THEY YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THEY'RE SMALL FOOTPRINTS, RIGHT? IF I THINK ABOUT LIKE PANAMERICAN FOR EXAMPLE AND THE FOOTPRINTS THERE ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU KNOW, HYDRO AND THEN YOU KNOW THE RAMEN PLACE AND ALL THAT THEY'RE SMALL FOOTPRINTS AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW CHANGING TO 2.0 PER SQUARE FOOT WOULD LIKE ADJUST ACCORDINGLY SO IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO VISUALIZE AND SO I MEAN I GUESS I COULD BE WITH IT BUT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY VISUALIZE IT. I THINK OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS MR. JOHNSON MAYOR, IF I MAY BRIEFLY JUST ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY WE BELIEVE THAT A LEGITIMATE CONCERN IS BEING RAISED WITH IT BUT WHERE WE WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE SOLUTION YET. OKAY, WE NEED TO STUDY IT MORE AND THE REASON BEING THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE KNOW OF THAT THE SECOND STORY OFFICE AND RETAIL SO IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT AN ISSUE AFFECTS A LOT OF PROPERTIES FIRST AND FOREMOST BUT WE THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD FIT FOR STUDYING IT AND BRINGING SOME POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS IF IT DOES PRESENT A PROBLEM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD . AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT IF YOU WERE TO ASSIGN ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS SIGN AREA TO EVERY TENANT ON EVERY FLOOR I MEAN THINK OF HOW MANY OFFICE BUILDINGS HAVE THAT SAME ISSUE. SO WE THINK IT'S MORE OF A RETAIL ORIENTED USE PROBLEM BUT AS GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY AND NOT WANTING TO LEGISLATE FROM THE DESK THIS IS ONE WHERE WE WOULD REQUEST TO STUDY IT SOME MORE AND COME BACK WITH SOMETHING TO LOOK AT IT AND FRANKLY I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OTHERS LET'S REMEMBER. LOHMANN SO I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD BE THE TIME FRAME ON THAT WOULD THAT BE AFTER THIS YEAR'S STUDY OR THAT SOMEHOW YOU'D COME BACK IN , KNOW THREE MONTHS AND BRING IT BACK? SO I SORT OF WANT TO LOOK AT ALL THE STUFF AT ONE TIME. I MEAN AND OBVIOUSLY THE SOLUTION HERE IS NOT WHAT WE WANT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE TIMING? YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, IF WE COME BACK IN A YEAR'S TIME SO IT'D BE AND IF IT WAS THE CODE WAS ADOPTED TONIGHT WE WOULD REPORT BACK ON THE ISSUE AND NO LATER THAN MARCH OF 2025. SO BASICALLY WE'D BE WAITING A YEAR BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR CHANGE IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE. THAT'S CORRECT AND WITH THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PROPERTY FOR ONE PROPERTY IMPACTS I THINK BE SAFE AND OKAY IN THAT REGARD. AND ONE THING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO REALLOCATE DISTRIBUTIONS OF SIGNAGE AMONG TENANTS IN THESE RETAIL SITUATIONS. SO THAT'S PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AND CERTAINLY IF THAT TENANT FELT STRONGLY ABOUT IT THEY COULD DO A YOU KNOW, A PRIVATELY INITIATED THING RIGHT THERE. THEY'D BE POSSIBLE DO THAT. YEAH. SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE CLEAR ON THAT THEN COUNSEL? I'M GOING HOLD TIGHT ON THIS ON THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TWO STOREY BUILDINGS AND THE SHARED SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD TIGHT ON THAT AND WE'RE FOUR STAFF TO WORK ON THAT A BIT AND COME TO A SOME LANGUAGE FOR US TO CONSIDER IN FUTURE. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. DID I RESOLVE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT FOLKS HAD HAVE WE GONE THROUGH ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ISSUES? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MR. MAYOR, WE I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT PUBLIC HEARING FOR SURE PLUS THE ONES THAT WERE RECONCILING THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION I, I STILL STILL WOULD REALLY ADD SO I'LL MAKE A COMMENT HERE. I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT WE DO THIS BUT I'M REALLY FRUSTRATED THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR CUSTOM FOR INDIVIDUALS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THEM LARGE LARGELY AS A COUNCILMEMBER LARGELY THE REASON WHY WE ASKED FOR THESE KINDS OF STUDIES BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE COME TO US WITH PROBLEMS AND THEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY. AND SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN SOLVE FOR THAT REALLY SOLVE FOR THAT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS I MEAN I KNOW LAST MEETING I WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF SMALL KNITS AROUND FENCES AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS THESE THE SAME KINDS OF THINGS THAT KEEP HAPPENING RIGHT WHERE PEOPLE BRING US LEGITIMATE CONCERNS WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL OR WE BRING IT TO COUNCIL AND WE ASK FOR A STUDY AND PLANNING COMMISSION DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB AND BRINGS US ALL KINDS CHANGES AND NONE OF THEM APPLY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY HAVE THE PROBLEM NOW AND IT FEELS TO ME LIKE THAT'S A DISSERVICE NOT INTENTIONALLY SO BUT IT LEAVES A LOT ON THE TABLE AND SO DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIX THAT BUT I, I STRUGGLE WITH THESE IDEAS ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS. WE'RE DOING WELL BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION POTENTIALLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND SO IF A WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT SOMEHOW I LOVE THAT BUT THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A COMMENT THAN JUST THIS PARTICULAR AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS TERMS OF A GOAL THAT WE KEEP STATING IS ABOUT BEING FRIENDLY IN BLOOMINGTON AND IF WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE EXAMPLE THAT WE'RE THINKING OF WE'RE BOTH THINKING OF AND TELL THEM SWAP OUT YOUR SIGN AND MAKE IT SMALLER AND LESS BRIGHT THAN WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE COST TO THAT INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS. AT ONE TIME THEY WERE TOLD IT WAS OKAY AND TO GO BACK AND SAY AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE CHANGING OUR MINDS NOW IT'S NOT ALL CHANGED GOING TO COST YOU $100,000 TO SWAP OUT YOUR SIGN IT JUST WE'RE WE'RE WORKING TOWARD THE FUTURE TO TRY AND PREVENT THIS TYPE OF ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. I JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE THE FAIRNESS OF DOUBLING BACK AND SAYING YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COUNCIL SAID TEN YEARS AGO WHEN THEY GAVE YOU THE OKAY, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT SO AND I'M MR. I AGREE WITH YOU YOU KNOW I THINK THERE'S AN OFFER LIKE I MENTIONED IT'S NOT JUST THE STICK THERE'S THE CARROT POTENTIALLY AS WELL. RIGHT AND SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO ALSO I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED THAT THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY LOSING MONEY SO BADLY THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD THAT. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM. HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD JUST IN IN MOST THESE CASES IT ENDS UP IT ENDS UP THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING THE BENEFIT THE NEW ORDINANCE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND COUNCILMEMBER REALIZED COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN MAYOR TO SAVE TIME I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS WHOLE AMENDMENT THING SO I TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS AND I THINK COULD I JUST HAVE THE MINUTES REFLECT THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THE THE CHANGE OF THE DWELLING DWELLING SCIENCE WITH WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR MOTION IF THE MINUTES CAN JUST BE ADJUSTED AND HAVE BE WRITTEN DOWN I'M OPPOSED TO THAT THEN WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL THE AMENDMENTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF WHEN WE'VE ALL RUN OUT I WILL I WILL SEE IF IF WE'RE COOL WITH THAT. YEP YEP. WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT HOUSE MEMBER ELYSE I JUST HAD A COMMENT TO ADD TO IF CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG IT'S 150 FEET PER PERSON RIGHT AND YOU IF IT'S A TWO STOREY BUILDING THAT WILL BE STILL 150 FEET DIVIDED INTO TWO SIDES IF THAT'S REQUIRE. CORRECT. RIGHT. SO THE DID THE QUESTION WAS TO INCREASE SIZE OF THE SIGNS, RIGHT. FOR MORE VISIBILITY WHATEVER AND ONLY ON RETAIL SPACE NOT NOT NOT OFFICE SPACE. SO I MEAN IT ONLY MAKES SENSE AND YOU AGREE WITH ME RIGHT BASICALLY YOU AGREE THAT THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TOO TO MAKE CHANGES ON RIGHT. SO I IF THIS IS GOING TO BE STUDY WITHIN A YEAR WE'RE GOING TO GET ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP TODAY. WHY DON'T WE APPROVE THIS AND THEN LOOK AT IT AND IF IT WORKS IT REMAINS AND IF IT DOES AND WE JUST DO AWAY WITH IT BUT AT LEAST GIVE IT A CHANCE FOR NOW LIKE A COUNCIL MEMBER THE ONLY TANGIBLE MENTION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES ,YOU KNOW, IS JUST GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES NOT ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE TO ACCOMPLISH. I MEAN AND I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT WE TRIED TO BECAUSE YOU KNOW, LIFE ITSELF HOWEVER IN THIS CASE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IN SMALL REQUEST AT LEAST FOR NOW AND THEN STUDY IT WITHIN A YEAR AND AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE FORMAL DECISION ON IT REMAINS OR NOT WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE AT ALL THIS POINT? YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, FOR THE QUESTION, I THINK OUR STAFF IS CERTAINLY COMMITTED TO KEEP TRACKING ISSUE AND LOOKING AT A WAY WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BY JUST DOING A FLAT EITHER 2.0 OR JUST ASSIGNING MORE SCENARIOS ACROSS THE BOARD TO EVERY SPACE ON A HIGHER LEVEL BECAUSE THAT COULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR VERY LARGE AMOUNTS OF SIGNAGE IN MULTITENANT MULTISTORY BUILDINGS. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST AN ISSUE FROM A REGULATORY THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLEXITY TO IT THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SHARPEN IT TO FOCUS IT ON THE RETAIL SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S REALLY NEEDED VERSUS JUST ALLOWING IT AS KIND OF A CANVAS ACROSS THE BOARD. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING TO KIND OF PAUSE OR DELAY ON THAT SO THAT WE CAN STUDY IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SURE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, I THINK WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT THIS I THINK TEES TO DEATH AND SO I THINK WE'RE AND I THINK THE THE MOTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR IF MAKE THE MOTION AND SIMPLY SAY WITH CHANGES AS STATED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. MR. AND MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I HAVE LONG MELISSA THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD BEEN PREPARING THIS OFFLINE I'M SURE SHE HAS SHE HAS A LONG MOTION THAT WE CAN SHARE OR KNOW HOW I CAN GET THAT TO YOU WANT TO IF YOU WANT TO DELIVER THAT TO ME I WILL MOVE IT I WILL PUSH AS THE MOTION AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS MOVEMENT. HOW WOULD THAT MAYORAL SECOND WE GOT TO GET THERE FIRST. HOLD ON WE WANT IT IN THE RECORD. WE WANT TO BE OFFICIAL WITH THIS LITTLE BIT. KEVIN I ALL RIGHT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION FOR AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING NEW STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES FOR SIGNS THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS 1 TO 12 1417, 19, 21 AND APPENDIX DE OF THE CITY CODE TO INCLUDE F OPTION TO G OPTION TWO AND EACH OPTION TWO AS PRESENTED BY STAFF AND TO KEEP THE TEXT PREPARED BY STAFF IN SECTION 21.3 04. 20E AND THE AND THE FINAL CLAUSE IN 21.3 04. 18V TO ALLOW THE CONVERSION OF THE FOUR EXISTING BILLBOARDS TO DIGITAL AND AMENDING THE CHART IN SECTION 21.30 4.1 3C12 STATE 180 DAYS AT THE MAXIMUM DURATION 16 TO 29 TENANTS AND 280 DAYS FOR 30 PLUS OR 30 PLUS TENANTS AND TO ATTEND A AMEND THE DURATION TIME FROM 10 MINUTES TO 20 SECONDS AS STATED IN SECTIONS 21.3 04. 20C, TEN A AND 21.30 FOR .18 SO MOVED AS STATED MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I MIGHT THE LAST THE ONLY AMENDMENT IT WAS THE 280 DAYS FOR FOR THE TENANTS AND THAT WAS B TO 40 I BELIEVE SO THAT WAS THE ONLY ERROR IN THERE SO I'LL MOVE IT WITH THAT REVISION AGAIN WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL LOWMAN AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO FOR THE MOTION AS STATED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 280 DAYS TO 240 DAYS AND IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? IS THE RECORD CLEAR ON THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. MISS MERCER MAYOR BUSSEY I COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER I COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN COUNCIL MEMBER MUA COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER REVERSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON AND I'M SORRY SORRY MR. MAYOR WE HAVE SUMMARY WE HAVE SUMMARY PUBLICATION MY BAD MY BAD WE CAN ABBREVIATE THIS ONE MOTION COUNCIL I LOOK FOR A MOTION FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION SO MOVED MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LONG AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS MISS MERCER MAYOR BUSSEY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER COUNCIL MEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN COUNCIL MEMBER MUA I COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON I AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS ALL RIGHT MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION NOW THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR THE WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU MR. TUSK FOR KEEPING US STRAIGHT ON THAT AND MR. JOHNSON, OUTSTANDING WORK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL DONE AND APPRECIATED. WE WILL MOVE. YES AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE WORKED HARD ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM FIVE AND WE HAVE TWO ITEMS AND OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE ORGANIZATIONAL IS ITEM 5.1 AN UPDATE ON THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS AND CARRIES BACK FROM PARK AND RECREATION ONE MORE TIME. GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING YOU AGAIN TO MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL I'M TO TRY TO DO BETTER ON THE CLICKER THIS TIME I HEAR IT'S OPERATOR ERROR THE CLICKER ITSELF SO WE'LL SEE. SO FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING IS INTRODUCE THE STAFF THAT I HAVE HERE WITH ME. I HAVE STAFF LEADS FOR OUR THREE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS DAVE HANSEN, LENNY SCHMITZ RENEE CLARK AND LEAH HUGHES. I'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR ROLES AS I GET INTO THE PRESENTATION SO GREAT NEWS AS YOU ALL KNOW ALL THREE PROJECTS PASSED AND NOW THE QUESTION IS NOW WHAT? AND IT SEEMS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE LIKE IT'S BEEN FOREVER SINCE NOVEMBER 7TH BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE WORK THAT SO MANY CITY STAFF AND SO MANY DEPARTMENTS HAVE DONE TO GET US TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE KICKING OFF THESE PROJECTS. THE THING THAT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS WE'RE REALLY HARD HERE TO GET THESE PROJECTS KICKED OFF AND. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT INFLATION CAN TAKE A BITE OUT OF OUR BUDGETS AND. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THESE PROJECTS KICKED OFF AND GOING AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN DOING ALL THREE PROJECTS CONCURRENTLY TO TRY TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY THAT TAKES OUT OF OUR BUDGET. SO AS I'VE BEEN SAYING TO STAFF TEAMS WE ARE NOT GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT TO TRY TO DO THIS ALL AT THE SAME TIME BUT WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO BE AS RESPECTFUL TO THE TAXPAYER AND THE MONEY THAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING FROM THE BLOOMINGTON SALES TAX. SO TONIGHT I WILL NOT BE GOING INTO REALLY GREAT DETAIL EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW A STATUS UPDATE ABOUT EACH PROJECT MY STAFF LEADS CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BUT WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU AND REPORTING SPECIFICALLY ON THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO OF ALL JUST A QUICK REMINDER BLOOMINGTON FORWARD IS A $155 MILLION INVESTMENT TO BUILD NEW COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER TO RENOVATE THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN AND TO ENHANCE AND PROTECT THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR. SO AS YOU RECALL, THE STATE LEGISLATURE AUTHORIZED THE CITY TO PLACE A HALF CENT SALES TAX ON THE BALLOT LAST SEVENTH AND THAT SALES TAX TOTAL IS FOUR $155 MILLION. AND THEN WE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL $4 MILLION FROM THE STATE FROM STATE BONDING FOR PRE-DESIGNED WORK AT THE BLOOMINGTON ICE AND THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES. SO THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE GAVE TO RESIDENTS LAST IN ORDER FOR THEM TO VOTE FAVORABLY FOR THE PROJECTS. THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND I WANT TO HATS OFF TO DIANE KIRBY AND HER TEAM. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS COMMUNITY CENTER FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS. A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE PREVIOUSLY ON THIS SO WE ARE NOT STARTING COMPLETELY FROM SCRATCH AS TO WHAT CAN GO INTO A COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING TO STAFF TEAMS IS WE HAVE A FUNNEL AND THE FUNNEL IS NARROWED SO WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF SOME OF THE AMENITIES. WE HAVE A LOT OF FINE TUNING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THESE AMENITIES. THE PROJECT IS A $100 MILLION PROJECT AND WE HAVE $1.8 MILLION IN STATE BOND FUNDS THAT ARE COMING TO THIS PROJECT AS WELL THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR PROJECT IS OUR PROJECT THAT QUITE HONESTLY IS THE LEAST DEVELOPED. THE CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR SAID WE WANT SIGNIFICANT NATURAL RESOURCE RESTORATION PROJECT AS ONE OF THESE SALES TAX ITEMS AND THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT ABSOLUTELY CAME TO THE FOREFRONT FOR STAFF AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR PARK SYSTEM PLANNING PROCESS IT WAS REALLY CLEAR TO US BOTH IN TERMS OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE AMENITIES THAT WE HAD BUT ALSO WHAT A GEM THIS PARK IS TO THE COMMUNITY IN BLOOMINGTON. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD COLLABORATING WITH THE RESIDENTS AND FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAYS THAT WE CAN INVEST AND PROTECT THE NATURAL RESOURCES. THE NINE MILE CREEK REGION THAT'S A $20 MILLION PROJECT AND THE LAST BUT NOT LEAST PROJECT IS THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN RENOVATION. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MECHANICAL ISSUE AT THE ICE GARDEN OUR 22 OPERATES ALL THREE OF OUR SHEETZ FOR REFRIGERATION, OUR 22 CAN NO LONGER BE PRODUCED OR IMPORTED IN THE UNITED. SO THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT IS REPLACING ALL OF THE REFRIGERATION SYSTEMS AND A LOT OF THE MAJOR BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THE USER EXPERIENCE UP BIG AS WELL THAT IS A $35 MILLION PROJECT AND WE HAVE $2.2 MILLION IN STATE BOND FUNDS COMING TO THAT INITIATIVE. SO NOW I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PROJECT TEAMS THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONSULTANTS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF TEAMS TO HIRE TO DATE THE BIG PROJECT IS THE FIR STILL LONG AS YOU KNOW WE STARTED ON THE INITIAL PHASES OF FEASIBILITY FOR THIS PROJECT JULY WE HIRED JL G AND THAT TO ASSIST US AS AN ARCHITECT I AM THE PROJECT OWNER FOR ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS. THEY'RE ALL OBVIOUSLY PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS. I CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A KEY FACILITATOR ORGANIZER, PUSHER PULLER GETTING FOLKS TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS. DAVE WILLIAMS FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND FACILITIES DIVISION IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT STAFF LEADS ARE LENNY LEAH OUR COMMUNICATION LEAD FOR THE PROJECT IS ERIC JEWELL AND WE HAVE RECENTLY HIRED RJ TO BE OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT. I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PROJECT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER TWO IN THAT WE ARE USING STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT ON THE PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVE. WE ARE REALLY RELYING ON OUR STAKEHOLDERS THOSE THAT ARE USING OUR FACILITIES ON A REGULAR BASIS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT IS NEEDED AT THAT FACILITY. I'M TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY THOUGH JANINE HILL EARLIER IN THIS MEETING REALLY TEED UP THE CONVERSATION TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGEMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE COLLABORATED OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND COED TEAMS. THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT THAT WE DID IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY STAFF WERE ASSIGNED FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AND THOSE TEAMS WORKED WITH OUR PARKS AND STAFF LEADS ON THE PROJECTS TO DEVELOP COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND IN THE EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT PLANS FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS YOU HAVE RECEIVED THOSE PREVIOUSLY IN THE BLOOMINGTON THIS WEEK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO SO THAT A REALLY GREAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO GET COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMUNITY AND ENGAGEMENT STARTED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THESE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE FOR THE BIG RENOVATION WE'RE WORKING OUR FIRST BIG BID PACKAGE FOR THAT PROJECT. WE HAVE A LOT LONG LEAD TIME EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE ORDERED AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THOSE ITEMS ORDERED BY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER. BY THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR, CONSTRUCTION START WE NEED TO MAKE ROOM IN THE FACILITY HOUSE THE NEW REFRIGERATION EQUIPMENT WHEN IT COMES IN SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD START SEEING SOME CONSTRUCTION AT BIG THIS FALL BUT IT WON'T IMPACT THE UTILIZATION THE FACILITY WE'RE STILL PLANNING ON A FULL FACILITY SHUTDOWN FROM MARCH UNTIL THE FALL OF 2025 IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS ON OUR TEAM WE HAVE HIRED AN OWNERS REP FOR THE CITY CALLED TEGRA IS GOING TO SERVE AS OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PROJECT STAFF LEADS AND LEAH HUGHES ASHLEY FROM COMMUNICATIONS OUR LEAD EMILY FROM COED IS THE LEAD FOR HER OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AND WE HAVE HIRED PRO'S CONSULTING TO BE OUR CONSULTANT TO WORK ON A FEASIBILITY STUDY. I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDES AND SELECTION OF THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGER. WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN RFP OUT AND ISSUED FOR OUR ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT INTEREST THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED IN THIS PROJECT . WE HAVE OVER 45 FIRMS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT AND ATTENDED A PRE-BID MEETING LAST WEEK. WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN AWARD OF A CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECT TO AN ENGINEER FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 15TH WILL BE FOLLOWING UP VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT WITH THE HIRING OF A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND HOPE TO HAVE THEM READY TO AWARD ON THE JULY 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING I MENTIONED THE FEASIBILITY. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN VERY SOON. WE'VE HIRED PROS CONSULTING THAT WORK WILL BE DONE BETWEEN AND JULY OF 2024 AND I HAVE LISTED HERE OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS GOING TO BE DOING. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WORK ON THIS COMMUNITY CENTER HAS HAPPENED THE LAST 8 TO 10 YEARS BUT WE HAD A PANDEMIC AND IT'S BEEN SINCE 2019 SINCE WE REALLY HAD SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO WE WANT TO KICK OFF KIND OF RIGHT SIZE OUT WHERE WE ARE BEFORE WE START THE ENGAGEMENT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AS THE BASIS FOR THE START THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ONE OF THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS OBVIOUSLY IN THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO BE THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PARK, SOME STAFF LEADS AND SOME FOLKS AT CREEKSIDE WE ARE STARTING OUR KICKOFF CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT ON MARCH 18TH ACTUALLY AND THE PLAN IS TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THIS PART OF THE STUDY INTO THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEER SO WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH SPACE WE NEED FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY RESIDENTS. IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DESIGN IN 24 AND 25 WE'LL FINISH THE ENGAGEMENT AND GET INTO SIGNIFICANT DESIGN AND BUILD IN 25 AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION IN 25 AND 26 MAYBE A FACILITY OPENING LATE 26 HOPEFULLY EARLY 27 AT THE VERY LATEST. AGAIN THIS IS A DRAFT SCHEDULE WE. DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE CONSULTANTS ON BOARD YET BUT WE THINK IT'S A PRETTY REASONABLE TIMELINE AND THE NINE MILE CREEK PROJECT TEAM BOB SIMONS FROM ENGINEERING DIVISION IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER RENEE AND DAVE ARE OUR STAFF LEADS COMMUNICATIONS JANINE HILL COED LEAD TRACY SMITH AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND RFP FOR THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS IN PROCESS AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT ADVERTISED IN EARLY MARCH THE RFP FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WILL LIKELY LATER IN 2024 IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE FOR THE NINE MILE CREEK PROJECT WE WILL PLAN TO START COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN MAY OR JUNE OF THIS YEAR ONCE WE GET ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERS HIRED WE'LL HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT'S GOING TO BE OCCURRING FOR TWO YEARS. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION FOUR FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAW IN THE LAST 2 TO 5 YEARS FROM THE PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLANNING PROCESS AND THE BRYANT AND BAR PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE REPORTING BACK TO THE COUNCIL IN THE PREDESIGNED 30, 60, 90 AND WE'RE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PHASES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE AS PART OF THESE PROJECTS AS WELL WILL BE PEOPLE IN ALL FORMS JUST LIKE YOU'VE SEEN ON THE ON THE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO KICKING OFF THE COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT. HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE READY TO BUILD THIS PROJECT IN EARLY 2026 AND LOOK FOR A 26 AND 27 CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO MENTION THIS EVENING IS WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE TRANSITIONED BLOOMINGTON FORWARD DAWG PAGE FROM AN EDUCATION THAT WE USED FOR THE CAMPAIGN LAST FALL FOR THE REFERENDUM TO NOW A PROJECT PAGE AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VISIT BLOOMINGTON FORWARD BOARD NOW AND FREQUENTLY BECAUSE IT IS A PAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE A LIVING BREATHING WEBSITE FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS SO IF ANYBODY TO KNOW THE STATUS UPDATE FOR ANY OF THE PROJECTS OR HOW THEY HAVE BECOME ENGAGED THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. WE ALSO CREATED AN EMAIL CALLED FORWARD AT BLOOMINGTON AMANDA GOV SO ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WANTS TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK, THE ONLY EMAIL ADDRESS THAT THEY HAVE TO KNOW THEY CAN EMAIL THERE AND THEN THAT WILL GO DIRECTLY TO ONE OF THE STAFF LEADS WHO REPLY IMMEDIATELY TO THAT EMAIL. SAME THING FOR COUNCIL IF YOU GET AN EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT THAT YOU WANT STAFF TO REPLY TO YOU CAN JUST FORWARD IT TO THAT EMAIL AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL TAKE CARE OF ALSO ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION SUBSCRIBE THAT WAY THEY WILL GET INFORMATION PUSHED RIGHT THEIR EMAIL BOX AS FAR AS ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS GOES. SO IT'S A REALLY GREAT WEBSITE. IT'S VERY USER FRIENDLY SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TO CHECK OUT THAT PAGE AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. I'M HAPPY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DEFER ANY QUESTIONS TO ANY OF MY STAFF LEADS AS. WELL, THANK YOU MUCH. COUNCIL QUESTIONS. COUNCIL DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION SEE AND THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS AS THE AGENDAS WERE PUBLISHED ABOUT YOU KNOW, FACT THAT WE WERE REQUESTING FUNDING TO HIRE THE OR WHATEVER. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THOSE HAVING THOSE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT. BECAUSE I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT WE WERE HIRING PEOPLE TO START DOING WORK AND THAT'S NOT REALLY THEY DO. SO CAN YOU ARTICULATE THAT AND MAYBE HELP SOME FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BETTER? ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. YES, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY LEARNED THAT WE WERE AN RFP TO HIRE THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WE WERE ALREADY TO CONSTRUCTION PHASE AND WHAT SHARED WITH RESIDENTS IS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND HOPEFULLY FROM A FROM A RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL THAT WE'RE BRINGING THIS CONSULTANT ON FROM THE VERY, VERY FIRST AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DO BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT OUR CONSULTANTS HERE FIRSTHAND FROM THE RESIDENTS WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO WE WANT TO GET OUR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS HIRED AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN SO WE CAN KICK OFF THAT ENGAGEMENT. I CAN ASSURE YOU WE WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY DESIGN. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY WORK. WE WILL BE KICKING OFF THAT PROJECT THIS SPRING AS A FAN OF SOMEBODY WELL AND AS SOMEBODY WHO DOES THIS FOR A WHERE I SIT IN FRONT OF CUSTOMERS AND DO PRODUCT DISCOVERY ALL THE TIME I CAN PROMISE YOU GETTING AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE CUSTOMER IS ONLY FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND FOR THE CUSTOMER'S BENEFIT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ARTICULATING. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. HOPEFULLY FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING IF WE HAVE ANY OPEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT THEY CAN RIGHT FORWARD AT BLOOMINGTON AND GET MORE INFORMATION. BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL SO I WOULD ASK YOU AND ANYBODY BEHIND YOU WOULD WANT TO ANSWER THIS. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU ENVISION IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON ALL OF THIS OVER THE NEXT HOW MANY YEARS WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING THIS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M HAPPY TO UH I'M HAPPY TO START AND THEN LEAVE ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT MIGHT WANT TO ANSWER AS WELL. I FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS GOING TO BE DETERMINING WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE IN A COMMUNITY CENTER WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL ON FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE RIGHT SIZE AND RIGHT PROGRAMING ARE GOING TO BE ALONG WITH RIGHT FEES TO CHARGE FOR THE FACILITY LOOKING AT COST RECOVERY AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO OPERATE THAT FACILITY. AND THEN IT'S ALL FITTING IN ON THE CREEKSIDE SITE. I FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE THAT MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO START WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY LOOKING MORE DETAILED AT THE PROGRAM AND LOOKING AT FEES, REVENUE SOURCES AND EARLY ON SO THAT WE HAVE A STARTING FOR HOW MUCH IT COULD POTENTIALLY COST TO OPERATE THE FACILITY AND THEN AS WE GET INTO FURTHER DESIGN WE MAKE CHANGES WE CAN CONTINUE TO UPDATE THAT SO WE WILL ALWAYS AT LEAST HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST TO OPERATE THIS FACILITY. SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE PROVIDING GOOD UP TO DATE INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE DECISIONS. THANK YOU FOR. THAT CANDID ANSWER. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ? COME ON. YOU GOT IT. MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I CAN JUST ADD THAT DURING THESE PROCESSES WE WORK REALLY HARD TO LISTEN TO COMMUNITY AND MAKE DESIGNS THAT RESPOND TO WHAT WE HEAR. ALL THESE PROJECTS HAVE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES AND I THINK IT'LL BE A CHALLENGE TO LISTEN ,RESPOND, INTERPRET AND REALLY MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. BUT IT'S I THINK A FUN CHALLENGE AND A REALLY A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AND ALL PROJECTS. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE WE LISTEN THEY'RE HEARD AND THE DESIGNS ARE RESPONSIVE . THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THINK REALLY HIT IT ON THE HEAD AT BIG THERE'S PROBABLY $5,050 MILLION WORTH OF WANT WITH OUR USER GROUPS AND $37 MILLION OF THE BUDGET. AND I THINK THE OTHER BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE LAST MONTH IS WE HAVE 383 DAYS. WE STILL GOT TO GET THROUGH AND THINGS ARE FALLING APART FALLING APART FAST. SO WE'RE JUST THE DUCT TAPE AND THE BUBBLE GUM IS WEARING OUT SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE THIS INVESTMENT IN THE FACILITY. WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO OUR DARNDEST TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE IN 383 DAYS. NOT THAT WE'RE COUNTING BUT AND AND THE FINISH LINE IS THEN THE STARTING LINE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. EXACTLY. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. IT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU ALL. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNSEL ON ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WELL, VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. THANKS FOR STICKING IT OUT LATE WITH US TONIGHT. WE APPRECIATE IT. LOOKING FORWARD TO REGULAR UPDATES ON ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY ARE DYING TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE DETAILS AND THE UPDATES AND COME FORWARD WITH ALL THIS. SO THANK YOU. LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM COUNCIL IS ITEM 5.2 THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE AND I WILL START A RECAP OF OUR LISTENING SESSION EARLIER THIS EVENING WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE SPEAK. MIKE LIST TALKED ABOUT THE ONGOING WITH THE GROUP HOME IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT SURROUND THAT. HE WAS LOOKING FOR DETAILS AND SOME UPDATES WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION HOPEFULLY WE CAN PROVIDE SOME MORE. WHAT I DID OFFER IS IF WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE OUR BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT STOPPING BY AND HAVE JUST A CHAT WITH WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE FOLKS IN THE GROUP HOME REGARDING EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE GOOD NEIGHBOR AND MAKING EVERY EFFORT WE CAN TO TO TRY AND AVOID PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY START ONCE THE WEATHER WARMS UP. SO I HOPE WE CAN DO SALLY THIS SPOKE TO US AGAIN WITH HER CONCERNS DISABILITY PARKING ACCESS AT THE DARYL FAROOQ CENTER AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSIONS BACK AND FORTH AT THE CONCERNS THAT SHE CONTINUES TO BRING UP. CHIEF HODGES HAS THAT THE THE CONCERNS THAT SHE IS BRINGING UP ARE NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNS AND THEY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. AND SO IF SHE HAS ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS GOING TO POINT HER TOWARD CHIEF HODGES AND THEY CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION EXACTLY AS TO HOW IT MIGHT WORK. MARY CINDY SPOKE TO US AND SHE HAD THREE SUGGESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL SHE WAS TALKING SPECIFICALLY THE NEED FOR THE COUNCIL TO LISTEN CAREFULLY, TO SPEND MORE WISELY AND TO BE PERCEPTIVE OF THE PERCEPTION OF THE COUNCIL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND FINALLY TIM REP HE WAS THERE AND SPOKE ABOUT NATIONAL INVASIVE SPECIES WEEK AND ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO BE STARTING THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT IN THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE PAID VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO IT THE INVASIVE SPECIES THERE AND WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION THEN ABOUT INVASIVE SPECIES ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I WILL NOTE TWO OF THE FOUR WERE FIRST TIMERS AND SO ONCE AGAIN OUR LISTENING SESSION IS DOING WHAT WE WANTED IT TO DO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO TALK TO NEW PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THEM BRING THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FORWARD AND TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS I THINK WITH EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE THIS EVENING SO THOSE WERE OUR SPEAKERS FOR THE LISTENING SESSION ON THE 26TH OF FEBRUARY. I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, RUBY. ANYTHING FROM YOU? NOTHING. THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, YES I'M SORRY. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT SOMETHING JUST AS A HEADS UP WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING MONDAY. I WILL BE TRAVELING AND WILL NOT BE HERE. DIANE KIRBY WILL BE THE ACTING CITY MANAGER BUT I MENTION THAT BECAUSE IT WILL BE THIS THIS EVENING IS MY LAST OPPORTUNITY TO THANK A COUPLE MEMBERS OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM CARLA HENDERSON, OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTOR IS LEAVING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND MOVING ON TO A LEADERSHIP POSITION IN A LOCAL NONPROFIT THE HOUSING SECTOR AND MIKE SABLE IS LEAVING US AS HE GOES TO THE CITY OF MAPLEWOOD TO BE THEIR NEXT CITY MANAGER. AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY PUBLICLY TO ACKNOWLEDGE WORK THAT BOTH OF THEM HAVE DONE HERE. IT IS TREMENDOUS WORK ON EACH OF US FOR EACH OF THEM IN WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO AND HOW THEY HAVE EMBRACED THOSE CHALLENGES AND MADE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN OUR ORGANIZATION IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE GOING WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE HERE AND WE ARE WISHING THEM NOTHING BUT THE BEST. SO MIKE'S LAST DAY IS MARCH 5TH NEXT TUESDAY AND CARLA'S LAST WILL BE MARCH 15TH. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUBLICLY AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS HERE HERE AND THANK FOR CHIMING IN AND WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT WEEK TO GET YOU EVEN MORE WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS MR. BREEN COULDN'T AGREE MORE COUNCIL ANYTHING TO ADD TONIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR I'M A PART OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED CLEAN WATER ACTION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THROUGH THAT ORGANIZATION IS THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THE PREEMPTION THAT'S FOR PLASTIC I GUESS A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK WHEN MINNEAPOLIS HAD MADE THAT MADE THAT CHANGE THIS MORATORIUM KIND OF CAME INTO INTO BEING AND IT HAS KIND OF PREVENTED CITIES FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO DO IS TO WRITE A LETTER ON BEHALF OF IS HAVING THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME RATHER LARGE BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY AND AND MAKING CHANGE WOULD BE A HUGE PIECE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GERMANE BRING THIS FORWARD IS GIVEN OUR SITUATION WITH THE HURT AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS I THOUGHT IT MADE GOOD SENSE FOR US TO AT LEAST TRY TO PUT FORWARD TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. SO I'M KIND OF ASKING TWO THINGS HERE ONE TO SEE IF THERE IS INTEREST AT ALL FROM THIS COUNCIL. ONE TO SUPPORT HAVING THAT CONVERSATION FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT. AND THEN TWO, THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR US TO HAVE THE PERMISSION TO BE ABLE TO ACT TO SEND A LETTER BEHALF AND I WOULD NEED THE I CERTAINLY DON'T NECESSARILY OR COUNCIL BUT I NEED THE PERMISSION OF THIS BODY TO BE ABLE TO TO DO THAT FOR MYSELF. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I AM ASKING TONIGHT AND NECESSARILY TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY BUT I WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD. I CAN SEND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER SEND THAT LETTER IF THERE'S SOME INTEREST AND ONLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MR. VERBRUGGE THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN DID SHARE THIS WITH ME LAST WEEK. I SHARED IT WITH OUR STAFF COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IS CORRECT. IT'S NOT PART OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM AS CURRENTLY ADOPTED ON THE SUSTAINABILITY AREA. THAT BEING SAID, BOTH LAURA HORNER AND ELLEN BAYLIS WERE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE PLASTIC BAG PREEMPTION BILL IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF BECAUSE OF ITS POTENTIAL TO HELP IN THE WASTE REDUCTION AREA WHICH IS I THINK HIGH THE MINDS OF EVERYBODY HERE. NOW IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE PROHIBITION OF PLASTIC BAGS. IT'S A RESTORE LOCAL CONTROL AND. IT REPEALS THE PROHIBITION ON CITIES TAKING INDEPENDENT ACTION TO DO THAT AND SO AS A MATTER OF LOCAL CONTROL WHICH YOU KNOW, WE WE TEND TO BELIEVE IN HERE AND WE ADVOCATE FOR IT THE LEGISLATE TO AIR THAT COMBINED WITH THE WASTE REDUCTION PERSPECTIVE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL US THE GO AHEAD TO SEND A LETTER OF SUPPORT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO STUDY MUCH MORE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU, MR. RUDY. COUNCILMEMBER I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE AS WELL . I'M ALWAYS OPEN FOR THE CONVERSATION WHETHER WHERE THAT CONVERSATION WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS ONE THING. BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO IN SAINT PAUL WITH A BLANKET PROHIBITION FOR CITIES TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT, WHICH IS I THINK RIDICULOUS. I SEE A FOURTH NODDING HEAD AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I SEE A GENERAL NODDING HEADS AND EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE. WE HAVE A CONSENSUS HERE SO I'LL WORK WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND WILL DRAFT A LETTER. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD, COUNCILOR. ELSE NOTHING ELSE THIS EVENING? VERY GOOD. I WILL TAKE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS DROPPED OFF SO I AS I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED TO DO THE ROLL CALL SO HOW ABOUT THAT? I'M MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MILLISECOND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING'S MEETING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL THANKS MUCH FOR THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT WELL DONE I THINK THIS WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND VERY VERY WELL DONE MEETING. THANK YOU. THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO TUNED IN THANKS TO STAFF FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR WEEK. LET'S HOPE IT'S AS NICE AS TODAY SO THANK YOU MUCH