>>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. WELCOME BACK. TODAY IS AUGUST 4th, THIS IS THE 35th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL. WE WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENT THIS EVENING. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS JUST A LITTLE BIT DELAYED. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN ENGLISH FOLLOWED BY SPANISH. SORRY, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH THEN SPANISH. SORRY. I'LL GET IT TOGETHER BY THE END. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: CIVIC PLAZA PARKINGS PASSES ARE FOR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS IN PERSON AND LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV, ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16. THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS, THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE SERVICES AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORD OFLG THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN VIABLE AT THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE. CALL 505-768-3100 DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M. IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE OR SNAPPING OTHER OUT OUTTS. NO LINES ARE ALLOWED LARGER THAN 8 AND A HALF BY ELEVEN INCH SHEET OF PAPER. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE RESPECT ONE ANOTHERED. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NMSA, DISCUSSION CLIENT PERTAINING TO COMMITTEE COMPLAINT 01-2025 AND REMAINING LITIGATION IN MAYOR KELLER VERSUS ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL. I MOVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? >> COUNCILOR, WE HAVE TO TAKE A ROLL CALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: OH. MADAM CLERK. >> COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >> COUNCILOR GROUT? >> >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. WE'LL BE BACK WHEN WE'RE FINISHED. >>COUN. BASSAN: WELCOME BACK. IN REGARD TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, I AFFIRM THAT MATTERS DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WERE LIMITED TO THOSE SPECIFIED IN THE MOTION FOR CLOSURE. OTHER BUSINESS, AGENDA ITEM A, OTHER BUSINESS, EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NMSA1015-1-H7, DISCUSSION SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE PERTAINING TO GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE COMPLAINT 01-2025 AND REMAINING LITIGATION IN MAYOR KELLER VERSUS ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL. WE DISCUSSED THE MATTERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD? OR JUST THE AFFIRMATION? THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. MOVING TO THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 16th JOURNAL. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE JOURNAL RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS, ARE THERECHARGES -- CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR LEWIS. COUNCILOR LEWIS, DO YOU WANT ME -- YOU GOT IT? >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-176 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF DIRECTORS TO THE DISTRICT BOARD OF VENTNA RANCH DISTRICT ACT. AS AMENDED AS CITY COUNCIL BILL FLOOR SUBSTITUTE RO3-372 AND REPEALING ALL ACTIONS INCONSISTENT WITH THIS RESOLUTION. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED. >>COUN. BASSAN: DOLLARS A MOTION . >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM VICE PRESIDENT PENA. ON THE RULE SUSPENSION FOR R-176. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPEND FOR PLACING R-177 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPROPRIATING FUND TO SPECIFIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO FACILITATE THE DETERMINATION THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE QUALIFIED GRANTEES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RULE SUSPENSION RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO PLACE O-93 QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM ON THE SEPTEMBER 3rd COUNCIL AGENDA INSTEAD OF REFERRING IT TO THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE. ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES IN THE NORTHERNLY AND SOUTHERLY PORTION OF ATRISCO LAND GRANT LOCATED NORTH OF SAGE ROAD BETWEEN 82nd STREET AND CHORALE DRIVE AND AMENDING THE ZONING MAP TO ESTABLISH R-1A ZONING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILORS, THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING EC-461 AND PLACING IS ON THE AUGUST 18 FOR ACTION. MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF MS. SAAVEDRA TO THE EARLY HEAD START ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RULE SUSPENSION FOR EC-461 RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE HAVE NO REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. NO DEFERRALS -- COUNCILORS, ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY, AUGUST 11th, AT 5 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS. BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEEING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 13th AT 5 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS AND IT WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTSES. THERE ARE NONE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE COMMENTS IF THEY SIGNED UP PER THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA. AND ON THE WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. THE PUBLIC COMMENT RULES ARE EACH PARTICIPANT WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THERE'S A ONE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT AND THE BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. IF YOU ARE THE SECOND SPEAKER OR THE ONE ON DECK, PLEASE START MAKING YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE FRONT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKSER HELERAIA, FOLLOWED BY LES. LES FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS I'LL SAVE MY SHORT PRESENTATION AS FAR AS WHAT I WAS ABLE TO HAVE DELIVERED TO ME IN REFERENCE TO THE POLICE IN THEIR ROUSTING OF PEOPLE ON SATURDAY NIGHT IN THE CITY. BLARING THEIR SIRENS AND THEIR HORNS FOR MINUTES AT A TIME WHEN WE CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE LEAVING THE ESTABLISHMENTS HOLDING THEIR EARS. THE CARS ARE POINTED AT THE FOOD VENDING TRUCKS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET A MEAL BEFORE THEY GO HOME. BECAUSE OF THE WIFI CAPABILITY OF THIS ROOM, I CAN'T PLAY ONE MINUTE OF A HORN BLASTING ON MY CELL PHONE. YOU FOLKS WERE PUT ON NOTICE SOMETIME IN MARCH ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOO SURPRISING TO ME OR IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO SURPRISING TO YOU IF THERE IS LEGAL ACTION TAKEN FOR THAT CONDUCT. ASIDE FROM THAT, LET'S GET THESE COMMENTS PUT ON THE GOVTV SO PEOPLE CAN SPEAK OUT. THANK YOU. >> BRICK FOLLOWED BY FRAN. >> WELCOME BACK FROM YOUR SUMMER VACATION. IT'S TIME TO GET BUSY. LET'S GET THIS POLICE REFORM DONE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON IN AMERICA. I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND. THAT'S ME PERSONALLY, AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING THE JOB RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, POLICE ARE NOT DOING IT RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE A LOT OF THIS JUST REALLY STEMS FROM THE TERRY STOP. IF WE CAN GET RID OF A LOT OF THESE POLICY, PROCEDURES, CODES, ORDINANCE THAT GOES AROUND TERRY VERSUS OHIO, I FEEL LIKE THE CITIZENS WOULD BE SAFER. IT'S THE TERRY STOP, IT'S THE STOP AND FRISK, IT'S BEEN LONG TIME. SINCE '67. THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS. THAT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO BE SECURE IN YOUR PERSON. THAT MEANS YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT BE TOUCHED BY SOMEONE. EVEN IF THEY GOT A BADGE, IT DOESN'T QUALIFY YOU TO TOUCH SOMEONE. THAT'S THE TERRY STOP. THAT'S WHAT STOP AND FRISK MEANS. GET RID OF THOSE PROTOCOL AND STATUTORY AND ORDINANCES. >> FRAN FOLLOWED BY EDWARD. >> HI, I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY ANIMAL SHELTER AND VOLUNTEER WITH THE RESCUE. I AM SINCERELY DISTURBED BY THE THINGS HAPPENING AND THE SHORTAGES WE HAVE. WE HAVE SHORTAGES OF EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE HEATING AND COOLING ISSUES THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR TWO YEARS. WE HAVE WASHERS AND DRIERS THAT DON'T WORK. WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH EMPLOYEES WHO WERE PUTTING BLANKETS WITH FECES ON THEM IN WASHERS THAT WERE PURCHASED AND THEN DESTROYED BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PROPERLY CLEANED BEFORE THEY WERE PUT IN THE WASHERS AND DRIERS. MAJOR HYGIENE ISSUES BECAUSE OF THIS. FOR TWO YEARS I WAS GATHERING BLANKETS FROM ST. VINCET DEPAUL AND SALVATION ARMY TO KEEP THE ANIMALS WARM IN THE WINTERTIME. SO, THERE'S A SHORTAGE OF EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> EDWARD FOLLOWED BY THERESA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS ON JEFFERSON JUST NORTH OF CENTRAL. AND WE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE AREA. AND THE BOOK STORE ACROSS THE STREET HAS ALLOWED ILLEGAL CAMPING OF HOMELESS AND CREATED UNSANITARY CONDITIONS AROUND ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT ATTRACTS PEOPLE IN ABANDONED CARS SLEEPING IN THE AREA USING AREAS AROUND MY OFFICE AS A RESTROOM AND THERE'S GARBAGE, DISCARDED DRUG PAIR -- NEEDLES, BATHING IN PUBLIC AREAS, YELLING AND AT TIMES VIOLENCE. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. WELCOME BACK. I'M DAUGHTER OF AN IMMIGRANT AND SINGLE MOM RAISE TWO BOYSES. IN STRONG SUPPORT OF BRINGING BACK THE RANK ACT. PUBLIC FUNDS SHOULD FUND THE PUBLIC GOOD AND NOT PROFIT. YOU APPROVED $227 MILLION IN TAX BREAKS FOR DEVELOPERS YET THEY'RE OUT SOURCING JOB AND NOT HIRING UNION LABOR. IMMIGRANT AND WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND. IN SAWMILL THERE'S RISING RENT. IN DISTRICT THREE, WE STILL LACK BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE. AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT. SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE FORCED BACK TO UNSAFE SITUATIONS BECAUSE OF RENT BEING TOO HIGH OR BEING EVICTED. AND IMMIGRANT FAMILIES ARE BEING TARGETED BY ICE AT THEIR DOORSTEPS. WE NEED STRONGER RESTRICTIONS. THE RENT ACT IS A STEP FORWARD IN ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EACH OTHER AND DEVELOPERS. IF DEVELOPERS GET PUBLIC MONEY THEY MUST DELIVER BENEFITS, FAIR WAGES, AND LOCAL JOBS. THANK YOU. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY ANNIE. >>COUN. BASSAN: HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WHATEVER BEEPING IS HAPPENING OVER THERE, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE IT STOPS NOW? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS. WELCOME BACK. TIME IS SHORT. I ABBREVIATED A FEW MONTHS WORTH OF CONCERNS. ALBUQUERQUE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS WONDERFUL. IT STARTED THE 766 RED LINE ON THE WEEKEND. I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. I FEEL SAFE. NATIONAL GUARD, NUMBER TWO, 1.2 MILLION WASTED TAX DOLLARS. KNOW THAT IS NOT FORGOTTEN. IT KEEPS COME UP. APD REVIEW OF APD SOP ON PROTESTS IS GOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ROGERS. WE'LL SEE IN REAL TIME THAT PROTESTS IF MEDINA IS NOT LOSING LAW ENFORCEMENT TO AGITATE PROTESTERS AND JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE FROM AP. WHY IS THERE NO ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO PROTECT BURQUENOS. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE NO CLAPPING. >> THEY'RE NOT HAVING FEDERAL WARRANTS, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TERRORIZE THE CITY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORGET. WE'RE DEMANDING THIS BODY WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE LAWS AND POLICIES KEEP US SAFE. I FEAR FEDERAL POLICE MORE THAN I DO THE PEOPLE ON THE BUS. >>COUN. BASSAN: FOR THE SAKE OF DECORUM, PLEASE, THERE'S NO CLAPPING OR SNAPPING SO WE MAY HEAR FROM ALL OF THE SPEAKERS. IF YOU ARE GOING TO CLAP AND SNAP AND DISRUPT THE MEETING YOU WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. PLEASE CONTINUE. >> I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TO THE HEART ORDINANCE. I GO OUT TO THE ENCAMPMENTS. THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. TRYING TO HELP THEM TAKE CARE OF THEIR DOGS. THEY CAN'T EVEN TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES MUCH LESS THEIR DOGS. THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD, WATER, AND NOW THEY'RE BREEDING ANIMALS TO SELL THEM FOR DRUGS, FAVORS, MONEY. RIGHT NOW, I HAVE THREE PUPPIES THAT I GOT FROM THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THREE DIFFERENT LITTERS IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. MY FRIEND HAS NINE PUPPIES SHE GOT FROM THERE. BRAND NEW PUPPIES. THEY WILL TRADE THEM AT A DAY OLD. THEY'RE SUFFERING OUT THERE. WE NEED TO AMEND THE HEART ORDINANCE. CAN I HAVE EVERYONE STAND UP THAT'S HERE? >>COUN. BASSAN: NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. >> UP NEXT, WE HAVE JANET FOLLOWED BY JOSE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN I STARTED WITH CITY GOVERNMENT IN 1973, THE LIBRARY WAS ITS OWN STAND ALONE DEPARTMENT. AS WERE SEVERAL OEFRT BIG DEPARTMENTS. AND AROUND 1990 IS WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS FIRST COMBINED WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER ENTITIES TO BECOME SOMETHING ELSE AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF THE ADMINISTRATION RUNNING ITS GOVERNMENT'S MODEL. DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE STAND ALONE, AND OTHERS ARE BIG ISSUES OR BIG PROGRAMS ARE COMBINED. THAT DID NOT COME OUT VERY WELL. I DID NOT PRACTICE. LASTLY, ROUTE 66 AND NEXT YEAR I JUST WANT TO REPORT VARIOUS HISTORY GROUPS PUT TOGETHER TEN SPEAKERS AT 10 DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON THE FOURTH SATURDAY OF EVERY MONTH. IT WILL BE FREE. TO LEARN ABOUT ROUTE 66 HISTORY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JOSE FOLLOWED BY HAILEY. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. TODAY I WANT TO ADDRESS THE CRITICAL ISSUE CONCERNING THE ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS BY IMMIGRATION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. COMMONLY KNOWN AS ICE AS IT IMPLICATES CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION. ICE IS HERE AND ALIVE IN OUR SANCTUARY CITY. WE ARE APPALLED BY YOUR DECISION TO SUPPORT ICE AND THE NATIONAL GUARD IN BURQUE. ICE RACIALLY PROFILES ALL GROUPS. THIS RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW AS OF JUNE 25th 72% OF PEOPLE BEING DETAINED HAVE NO CRIMINAL CONVICTION. WE NEED TO REMOVE MASS AGENTS AND HIDDEN BADGES FROM THE STREETS. STOP THE INHEW IN APPROACH OF KIDNAPPING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. WE NEED DUE PROCESS GUARANTEED IN THE CONSTITUTION. NOT HAVING IMPROPER REPRESENTATION IS CAUSING FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND LEADING TO RELUCTANT TO REPORT CRIMES AND SEEK EGHELP FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS DESTROYING PUBLIC SAFETY FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. APPRECIATE YOU. >> HAILEY FOLLOWED BY -- >> I AM A MEMBER OF THE RENTERS REVOLUTION. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE RENT ACT IMMIGRATION PROTECTION. THIS IS ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES. THESE TWO GROUPS ARE OVERLOOKED AND UNDERPROTECTED WHEN THEY'RE THERE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY. RENTERS ARE FACING SUDDEN CHANGES IN RENT, UNSAFE LIVING CONCONDITIONS AND EVICTIONS WITHOUT CAUSE WITH VERY LEGAL PROTECTION. WHY DO SO MANY OF US LIVE IN FEAR AND SILENCE BECAUSE OF RETALIATION BY LANDLORDS. SAFE HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. IMMIGRANTS DESERVE PROTECTION. THEY WORK AND DREAM AND SACRIFICE JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE. WHY DO THEY LIVE IN FEAR OF BEING PULLED OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND JOBS BY ICE? THEIR FIRST TO BE HIRED BUT FOR SOME REASON LAST TO BE PROTECTED AND WE HAVE SOMEHOW MADE THAT OKAY. THEY DESERVE PROTECTION. THESE AREN'T STRANGERS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE THE HEART OF IT. NO ONE SHOULD CHOOSE BETWEEN BUYING GROCERIES OR PAYING RENT. NO ONE SHOULD LIVE IN FEAR IN THEIR OWN HOME. THESE ARE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS. THAT LEAVES ME WITH MY FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ROBAL FOLLOWED BY ALFREDO. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COURT, THIS SUBJECT DEMANDS TOO MUCH OF YOUR ATTENTION. FOR OUR BENEFIT, I WANDER YOUR PROTECTORS BETWEEN THE WAR ZONE, BUT I DID NOT ATTEND THE FORUM WITH INTENTION OF ADDRESSING ANY OF YOU. I CAME FOR US. THESE GESTURES BEFORE US ASSUME THE CLOAK OF OUR COLLECTIVE VOICE AS MANTLE OF AUTHORITY PARADING A SERIES OF BUREAUCRACIES TO OBFUSEICATE THE MILITARY OCCUPATION. TOWN HALLS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE ASKING THE QUESTION HOW SHOULD WE REACT TO AUTHORITIES IN EVENTS? MILITARIZE AGAINST MIGRANTS AND UNHOUSED AND UNDESIRABLES. HOW DO WE CREATE COMMUNITIES SAFE AND HEALTHY FOR CHILDREN, MILITARIZE AGAINST THE YOUTH, HOW OH, LORD DO WE STOP ADDICTION FROM THE ONES WE LOVE? LITTLETERRIZE AGAINST THE ADDICTS. BY THIS LOGIC, OF CRISIS INTERVENTION, IF THEY DO NOT MOBILIZE LOCAL STATE AND NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE APPARATUS, ARMED ENFORCEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD AHEAD . >> ALFREDO FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >>COUN. BASSAN: WAIT JUST ONE MORE MINUTE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. I'M NOT SURE I'LL BE AS ENTERTAINING AS THE LAST GENTLEMAN. I'M HERE TO SPEAK NOT ON BEHALF BUT IN -- WITH A GROUP OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND NEIGHBORS OF BOOKS AT 120 JEFFERSON JUST NORTH OF CENTRAL. WE'RE HARDWORKING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, MOST OF US. WE DEAL WITH THE FALLOUT OF QUIRKY BOOK HONEST A DAILY BASIS. WE HAVE A SERIOUS HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT EXACERBATED BY THIS PROPERTY. WE HAVE FECES, NEEDLES, PARAPHERNALIA, I SMELL FENTANYL ON A DAILY BASIS. WE CLEAN UP AFTER THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. WE HAVE TO FORTIFY OUR BUSINESSES BECAUSE OF THIS. I HOPE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE SOME ACTION. ENABLE THE POLICE. APD HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ALSO LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN DO. WE HOPE YOU'LL ENABLE THEM TO PLEASE CORRECT THE ISSUE. THANK YOU. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY LAURA. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK. I'M WITH THE SAME GROUP. WE ARE NEXT DOOR TO QUIRKY BOOK STORES. WE'RE THE ALBUQUERQUE SCHOOL OF HEALING ARTS. WE RUN A MUSONG -- MASSAGE PROGRAM. WE HAVE STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE. WE'RE A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. WE STRUGGLE TO CONTINUE RUNNING BECAUSE OF OUR NEIGHBOR. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CLEAN UP FECES AND NEEDLES ON A DAILY BASIS. WE CALL 311, 242-COPS. THEY DO THE BEST THEY CAN. WE REALLY NEED YOUR HELP. WE DON'T FEEL HEARD. WE DON'T FEEL SEEN. WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY FIXING BROKEN WINDOWS. HAVING COPPER STOLEN. THE PARKING LOT IS A DRUG DEN. WE WATCHED DRUG TRANSACTIONS HAPPEN ALL DAY. WE WATCHED THEM IN THE ARCH WAY OF THE BOOK STORE DOING DRUGS FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. CARS PULLING UP. AND PEOPLE GETTING OUT AND SELLING THINGS AND BUYING THINGS. AND WE NO LONGER FEEL SAFE. WE WOULD LIKE YOUR HELP. THANK YOU. >> LAURA FOLLOWED BY ADEL. >> I'M CO-OWNER WITH SARAH WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE SCHOOL OF ART. I PREPARED A STATEMENT. IT'S LONGER THAN ONE MINUTE. WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. WE ARE TAXPAYERS. WE'RE JOB CREATORS. WE HAVE PERSONALLY GRADUATED 76 MASSAGE THERAPISTS. WE ARE FRANKLY FED UP. WE HEAR HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE THE PROPER CHANNELS ARE BEING FOLLOWED, YET WE SEE NO MOVEMENT TOWARD REMEDIATION. THE CITY HEARING OFFICER SAID HE FINDS THIS TO BE AN OPTIMISTIC ENDEAVOR BY THE OWNER OF QUIRKY BOOK STAR. THERE'S NO IDEALISM, OR OPTIMISM, THEY'RE NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE REHABILITATE PEOPLE. THEY'RE ALLOWING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES TO TAKE PLACE ON THE PROPERTY. THIS SPILLS ON OUR PROPERTY. WE HAVE TO WARN OUR STUDENTS TO NOT BE IN THE PARKING LOT WHERE THERE ARE NEEDILYALES AND FECES. THERE ARE BROKEN OBJECTS THAT GET THROWN ON OUR PROPERTY EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE NEED YOUR HELP. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT SPOKEN REGARDING SOME SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE DESCRIBED A PRETTY DIRE PLACE OF BUSINESS. I WONDER IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD WANT TO COMMENT ON -- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SOMEONE LIKE THAT? SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE BEING ABSOLUTELY OVERRUN WITH NEEDLES AND DRUGS AND FECES. ACCESS TO THEIR BUSINESSES. I HEAR THIS ALL OVER, AND I HEAR DESPERATE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT -- AGAIN, THEY'RE VERY COMPLIMENTARY IN REGARD TO THE POLICE ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN, BUT THEY'RE CLEARLY NOT. I WONDER IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO ADDRESS THIS. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO THESE BUSINESS OWNERS EXPRESSING THAT KIND OF DESPERATION RIGHT NOW? >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE? >> JUST QUICKLY -- >>COUN. LEWIS: IS IT LEGAL? >> I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE UPDATE ON THAT BEFORE DR. SENGEL. THE CITY DID ISSUE CITATIONS TO THE STORE. THEY WERE APPEALED THROUGH OUR HEARING OFFICE. AND NOW THE HEARING OFFICER ISSUED A $1500 FINE. THAT HAS BEEN APPEALED TO THE DISTRICT COURT. QUIRKY BOOKS FILED A MOTION FOR NEW MEXICO BOARD OF APPEALS TO TAKE UP THE ISSUE. AND THERE'S A HEARING ON THAT ON THE 14th. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF THE LEGAL STATUS. THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE QUESTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO INSTANCES -- >> CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUED CITATIONS TO QUIRKY BOOKS BASED ON ILLEGAL ENCAMPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR THIS STRAIGHT. THE RESPONSE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- AGAIN, MS. SENGEL, WHAT IS THE RESPONSE YOU'RE GIVING TO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE THAT THEY ARE JUST FLAT OUT OVERRUN AND NOT ABLE TO DO BUSINESS BECAUSE OF TENT ENCAMPMENTS OR BECAUSE THEY HAVE FECES AND NEEDLES IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS. BROKEN WINDOWS. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO THEM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE RELATED TO THE BUSINESSES NEAR QUIRKY BOOKS, WE'RE WORKING ON THIS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, AFR, APD. I APOLOGIZE. THEY HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING TO ENSURE WE'RE RESPONSIVE IN THE AREA SUPPORTING THE BUSINESSES, BEING RESPONSIVE FROM SOLID WASTE AS WELL IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP IN THE AREA. I THINK WE'RE ALL FACING GENERALLY THE ONGOING CHALLENGES OF ENSURINGING WE'RE PROVIDING RESPONSIVE INTERACTIONS BOTH FROM BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN ANY AREA. AS WELL AS BEING RESPONSIVE TO INDIVIDUALS CIVIL RIGHTS IN TERMS OF BEING WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS AND OUR PUBLIC CITY ROADS. AND SIDEWALKS. WE HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE'S AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY WE'RE ENSURING THAT APD HAS AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AND THAT IS REPORTED TO THEM. WE RECEIVE RESPONSES -- I'M SORRY, REPORTS AND COMPLAINTS THROUGH 311, 911, 242-COPS AND ALL OF THOSE ARE NOTED AND HAVE EVERYTHING FROM INTERACTION TEAM THAT GOES OUT TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS TO INTERACT WITH THEM TO SUPPORT, OFFER SERVICES, GIVE THEM NOTICE IF THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW OR ARE VIOLATING AN ORDINANCE. WE GIVE THEM NOTICE AND HAVE A PROTOCOL TO ENSURE THEY'RE PROVIDED AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO MOVE AS WELL AS COLLECT THEIR ITEMS. WE ALSO HAVE MULTIPLE TEAMS OUT CLEANING. WE HAVE, AS I SAID, APD RESPONDING TO REPORTS OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE LEGAL MATTERS WITHIN OUR CITY THAT TIE SOME OF OUR HANDS IN SOME CASES. I'M HAPPY TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAIN THE LIMITATIONS THAT McLENDEN HAS RELATED TO ARRESTS FOR MISDEMEANORS AS WELL AS THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE ENSURING THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE UNHOUSED HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE PUBLIC PROPERTY AND BE IN PUBLIC PROPERTY. WE SEE IT AS WELL. AND WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON BEING AS RESPONSIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND MULTIPLE TEAMS. TO BE BOTH HUMANE AND UPHOLD THE LAW. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS THERE ANY AMOUNT OF RESOURCES LEGISLATION POLICY ANYTHING THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN DO TO BE ABLE TO HELP ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS DO THEIR JOB BETTER? ARE YOU IN NEED OF MORE MONEY? ARE YOU IN NEED OF A POLICY CHANGE OR ANYTHING FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD DO TO HELP SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE THAT THEY ARE OVERRUN? WHAT IS THE EXPECTATION YOU WOULD HAVE? WHAT COULD WE DO RIGHT NOW AS A COUNCIL, POLICY OR RESOURCES, DO YOU NEED MORE MONEY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK WE ALL BELIEVE WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO DO EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO IN THE CITY. I THINK THE REALITY IS WE'RE WORKING WITH EVERY PARTNER WE CAN TO GARNER FUNDS TO COME TOWARD THE CITY AND SUPPORT US. WE THINK THIS IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY ACROSS MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS. WE KNOW THERE ARE REAL CHALLENGES RELATED TO ADDICTION AND MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT SERVICES AND THE SERVICES BEING AVAILABLE. WE HAVE BUILT OUT THE GATEWAY SYSTEM. WE BELIEVE IT'S AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO MOVE FROM THE STREET TO SUPPORT SERVICES. AND YOU HAVE PROVIDED SUPPORT WITH GATEWAY WASTE GATEWAY WEST. THERE'S POLICY CHANGES WE COULD BENEFIT FROM. WE'VE INCLUDED DISCUSSIONS AND COUNCILOR ROGERS HAS INTRODUCED LEGISLATION AMENDMENTS TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE ORDINANCE AND LIMITATIONS, AS WELL AS WE'RE OPEN AND EAGER TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT COULD EXPEDITE OUR POSSIBILITIES FOR HOUSING, APPROACHING HOW WE AWARD HOUSING FUNDS FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACT. THE REALITY IS THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET IN THE CITY. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET AS YOU HAVE MANY TIMES TOLD US. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE LIMITATIONS. WE ARE PRIORITIZING SERVING PEOPLE. AS A RESULT, THAT MEANS IN SOME CASES THERE ARE SOME SERVICES THAT ARE LESS FREQUENT. FOR EXAMPLE, OUR FREQUENCY OF MOWING IN THE PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS BEEN STRETCHED. BECAUSE WE HAVE PRIORITIZED FUNDING TOWARD CERTAIN PEOPLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST A FINAL COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: GO AHEAD FIRST. AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT PERSON. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST TO COMMENT, THE ADMINISTRATION GIVES US THE BUDGET. YOU START THE BUDGET. BUT THE COUNCIL CHANGED THAT BUDGET, A FRACTION, A VERY FRACTION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU ASKED FOR WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCES FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT. SO, IT JUST CANNOT BE A RESOURCE PROBLEM. AT SOME POINT, THERE HAS TO BE RESULTS. AT SOME POINT THERE HAS TO BE -- WE'RE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS. SOME REAL, VISIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. THERE'S NEVER A QUESTION OF A BUDGET OR MONEY OR WHAT'S ALLOCATED TO YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THOSE CHALLENGES AND DEAL WITH IT AND MAKE IT BETTER. THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES. SO, IF IT IS A FUNDING ISSUE, IT SHOULD START WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND COME TO US AS A REQUEST AND THE TRACK RECORD OF THIS COUNCIL IS THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED AND THAT YOU REQUESTED. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK, BUT OUT OF COURTESY FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON. AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO CIRCLE BACK WITH BOTH OF YOU AT THE END OF THE MEETING ON ADMIN Q&A. >>COUN. ROGERS: POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'VE MADE A DECISION TO MOVE ON. IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE MEEGZ -- MOTION TO OVERRULE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I MAKE A MOTION TO OVERRULE THE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION TO OVERRULE AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF OVERRULING THE PRESIDENT'S DECISION TO MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS JUST MY DISTRICT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO WEIGH IN. I'M WAITING TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT. I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU SHOWED UP TONIGHT TO ANSWER COUNCILOR LEWIS'S QUESTION. THE THING I'M HEARING IS THEY -- IT'S ONLY BEEN AVAILABLE DOWNTOWN. THERE'S RESOURCES FOR THEM TO FIX THE WINDOWS, IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. WE ONLY HAD $200,000 IN THE LAST ROUND. AND LOT OF THOSE DID NOT GO TO DISTRICT SIX. YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN BY WHO GOT THAT MONEY AND WHAT DISTRICT AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT MONEY WENT. IF THIS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HELP ME WITH THE RESOURCES, EVEN THEY SAY THEY GOT WHAT THEY NEED, AS THE COUNCILOR FOR THIS DISTRICT WE DON'T HAVE WHAT WE NEED FOR MY BUSINESS OWNERS TO BE ABLE TO GET MONEY TO REPLACE THOSE THINGS. I HAVE TO SAY THAT. THERE HASN'T BEEN RESOURCE FOR BUSINESS OWNERS SPECIFICALLY TO APPLY TO GET HELP FOR THIS. THE OTHER THING THAT I'M HEARING FROM MY BUSINESS OWNERS IS THE LACK OF RESPONSE WHEN THEY DO CALL 911 FOR HELP. I AM WORKING ON GETTING THE DATA AND WORKING WITH APD TO FIGURE THAT OUT. FOR THE PUBLIC, EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO COME PLEASE STILL CALL. STILL CALL THOSE THINGS. THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING WITH BUSINESS OWNERS ALL THE TIME. I CAN'T ADVOCATE IF WE DON'T CALL AND SAY THIS IS HAPPENING. I HAVE TO SAY THAT TO THE PUBLIC. I'LL KEEP IT AT THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHAT I'M HEARING AND I WANTED TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, IN REFERENCE TO THE AREAS IN QUESTION, THIS IS HAPPENING UP AND DOWN CENTRAL. FROM ONE SIDE OF CENTRAL ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE. WE HAVE BUSINESSES WHOSE DOORS ARE CLOSED. WE HAVE BUSINESSES WHO HAVE CONSTANTLY CALLED THE POLICE IN REF RENES TO -- REFERENCE TO THE ISSUES GOING ON. THESE INDIVIDUALS CAME TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR ACTION. ARE WE MAKING ARRESTS FOR CRIMINAL TRESS PASS? ARE WE MAKING ARREST FOR DRUG TRAFFICKING? ARE WE MAKING ARREST FOR DRUG DEALING? ARE WE ALLOWING URINATION AND DEFECATION? ARE THE POLICE OFFICERS DOING THEIR JOB INHOW MANY ARRESTS HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT AREA? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE GATHER IT. I'M SURE THAT OUR AREA COMMAND HAS THAT DATA. I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE ANY POLICE OFFICER IN HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT COUNCIL. I GUESS THIS ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T REQUIRE THE POLICE TO BE INVOLVED IN CITY COUNCIL ANYMORE. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE MOVE BACK TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ADEO FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILORS, I ALSO WANT TO SAY IT'S VERY SAFE ON THE BUS. I ENJOY IT THERE. I THINK I TOLD YOU ALL BEFORE. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT WHEN THE BUS WASN'T SO SAFE. AND IT GAVE ME QUITE A FRIGHT. WHEN I WAS AT CIVIC PLAZA, WE WERE OUT THERE TRYING TO GET YOU GUYS TO LISTEN. WE DON'T WANT THESE ICE GOONS HERE. IT WAS GOING GOOD. THEN I SEE A RAPID RIDE PULL UP. RAPID RIDES DON'T GO ON TIJERAS. I LEARNED THAT WAS A SECRET POLICE BUS. AND I ALSO LEARNED THAT THERE'S BEEN AGREEMENTS. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD TO THAT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUS THE POLICE AROUND IN THE CITY BUSES BECAUSE IT MADE MY HEART STOP. >> TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY DOROTHY. >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME. NO ONE SHOULD BE AFRAID TO GO TO WORK, SCHOOL, CHURCH, LEGAL IMMIGRATION OR THE GROCERY STORE. WE DEMAND ALL ICE AGENTS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WITHOUT A FACE MASK AND PROPER CREDENTIALS. WE WANT THE CITY TO EMPOWER BUSINESSES BY EDUCATING THEM ON THEIR RIGHTS ON WHAT A LEGITIMATE SIGNED JUDICIAL WARRANT LOOKS LIKE BEFORE ALLOWING ENTRY. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE YOU TO HELP DESIGNATE SAFE PRIVATE EMPLOYEE CLIENT AND PATIENT SAFE. WE WANT FREEDOM FROM INTIMIDATION OF OBSTRUCTION CLAIMS FROM ICE WHEN WE ARE EXERCISING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OR TRYING TO HELP OTHERS EXPRESS THEIRS. AN ATTACK ON THE IMMIGRANT WORKFORCE IS AN ATTACK ON ALL OF US. WE ARE DONE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT CATERING TO BILLIONAIRES AT THE WAST OF THE WORKING PEOPLE. WE WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS SPENT ON INVESTMENTS AND OUR WORKING PEOPLE. WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HEALTH CARE. PLEASE STOP SELLING US OUT. >> DOROTHY FOLLOWED BY MARIA. >> I AM CHAIR OF THE WEST SIDE DEMS. I STAND TO SUPPORT MAYOR KELLER'S EXECUTIVE ORDER ABOUT ICE. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO DO THE SAME. THANK YOU. >> MARIA FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> HI. I'M A NURSE PRACTITIONER IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M ALSO A MEMBER WITH OPEN. WORKERS RIGHTS ORGANIZATION HERE. AND LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID TONIGHT, I'M REALLY APPALL WITH HOW ICE IS KIDNAPPING AND TERRORIZING OUR COMMUNITY ON THE STREETS AND IN THEIR HOMES AND WORK SPACES. AS A PROVIDER, WE HAVE PATIENTS FEARFUL TO GO TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO NOT TO GO TO THE ER BECAUSE THEY'RE FEARFUL OF THIS? I'M HERE TO ASK YOU CREATE A POLICY TO PROTECT THE WORKERS, ESPECIALLY IN THE WORKPLACES. I'VE ALSO GONE AROUND TOWN ON CENTRAL AND GONE TO RESTAURANTS AND ASKED FOR THEM TO HAVE CLEAR SIGNAGE. LOT OF THE OWNERS RECEPTIVE TO THIS. I THINK THE CITY CAN CREATE A POLICY THAT CAN URGE THEM TO PROTECT THEIR WORKERS, PREBLTH PROTECT THEMSELVES. IT CAN BE TRAINING TO PROTECT WORKERS. BY WE, I'M INCLUDING US, AND YOU, WILL NOT ALLOW >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TAD. WELL, WHEN YOU MOVE THROUGH AGENDA, 80% FROM THE FINAL, THAT IS DICTATORSHIP. YOU ARE DICTATORS. ALSO VIOLATING OPEN MEETING ACT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS LIBERAL COUNCIL RIGHT HERE. NOW, THAT'S ALREADY SECOND COPS PLEAD GUILTY TO BRIBE AND FRAUD. WELL, THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE LAWYERS COMING UP. ANYWAY, I DON'T HAVE TIME. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE PROCEED. >> AIREL FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANT TO VOICE MY APPRECIATION THAT QUIRKY BOOKS IS JOINING ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY TO PROVIDE SHELTER, FOOD AND OTHER FORMS OF SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WHO CANNOT STAND TO SEE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, PLEASE INVEST YOUR ENERGIES IN SUPPORTING OUR WORKING COMMUNITIES. YOU CANNOT PUNISH YOUR WAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS OR ADDICTION. BUT YOU CAN BE FORWARD THINKING AND HELP WORKING FAMILIES ON THE EDGE OF CRISIS. YOU CAN INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU CAN REQUIRE WORKPLACE PROTECTIONS THAT HELP PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES FROM ICE'S ATTEMPTS TO DESTABILIZE OUR COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES WHEN THEY TEAR THEM APART. REGARDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS WONDERFUL. IT IS HEAVILY USED AND PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED SERVICES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. I'M HERE TO JOIN THE MANY VOICES TO URGE HELPING WORKING FAMILIES AND STOP CORPORATE TAX BREAKS. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY LIZI. >> HI. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, IF YOU WANT PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, AND IN THE SHELTERS, AND ENGAGING WITH SERVICES, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY PREVENTING ICE FROM TURNING OUR SHELTERS INTO THEIR HUNTING GROUND. A POLICY THAT REQUIRES EVERY WARRANT IS INSPECTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S SIGNED AND THEY ARE NOT STAYING IN THE SHELTERS IN ORDER TO FIND OTHER PEOPLE TO DEPORT OR KID NAP IS THE ACTUAL WORD FOR IT. THE AI POLICY IS PUBLISHED ON -- OR THE DRAFT OF THE AI POLICY IS PUBLISHED ON THE PAGE. AND IT SAYS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT MEETING IS HAPPEN. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. THANKS. >> LIZI FOLLOWED BY BARBARA ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM A RESIDENT OF CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN. I AM A MEMBER OF ORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBERS. I'M 25 YEARS OLD AND AN IMMIGRANT WORKING. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WILL LET YOU START OVER. IF YOU MAY BE SEATED. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SIT DOWN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THE LOBBY AND WATCH FROM THERE. IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN DECORUM, I WILL ASK YOU ONE MORE TIME TO BE SEATED. IF YOU WILL NOT BE SEATED, YOU WILL NEED TO EXIT AND GO OUT INTO THE LOBBY AND WATCH FROM THERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU MAY NOT CONTINUE YET. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE -- WE'LL NEED TO CALL RECESS. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE -- WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 30-MINUTE RECESS AND WE'LL COME BACK. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK FROM DINNER BREAK. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT IN THE COUNCIL RULES, SECTION I-12, DISTURBING MEETING. I WILL READ-TOUCH SHALL BE UNLAWFUL TO DISTURB CITY COUNCIL OR ANY COMMITTEE OR BEHAVE IN A MANNER AT SUCH MEETING, NO ATOLLERANCE FOR DISRUPTTIONS THATPEDE THE MEETING. THE -- THE COUNCILOR WILL ASK THAT PERSON TO LEAVE THE MEETING AND IF NECESSARY WILL ASK THE SECURITY ESCORT THAT PERSON OUT OF THE MEETING OR IN THE CASE OF VIRTUAL PARTICIPANT THEY BE REMOVED FROM VIRTUAL INTERFACE. SUCH REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING WILL BE EFFECTIVE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING. IT CONTINUED DISRUPTTIONS OCCUR, THE COUNCILOR MAY RECESS THE MEETING UNTIL ORDER IS RESTORED, AND IF NECESSARY MAY CLEAR THE MEETING OF PERSONS PARTICIPATING IN THE DISTURBANCE. FOR THERE SAKE OF DECORUM, IT'S IMPORTANT WE FOLLOW THE RULES WE HAVE SET. IF THE RULES ARE NOT OBEYED, THEN WE WILL -- YOU WILL GET ANOTHER WARNING. IF AFTER TWO OTHER WARNINGS, THEY'RE STILL NOT OBEYED, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE ON LIZI. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> DO I GET TWO COMMENTS? >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU CAN RESTATE YOUR ONE MINUTE. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM A RESIDENT OF CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN. I AM A MEMBER OF ORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBERS. I'M 25 YEARS OLD AND AN IMMIGRANT WORKING IN OUR CITY. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE UNDER ATTACK AND OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT US. WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH HIGH RENT TO KEEP ROOFS, WORKING TOO DAMN HARD TO TOO DAMN LITTLE. EVEN UNION WORKERS ARE FACING THREATS AND LOSE BETTER PAYING JOBS. WHAT MAKES US THING WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON'T HAPPEN HERE? IF TRUMPS DECIDES TO BAN UNIONS THAT WOULD AFFECT MANY OF YOU HERE THAT ARE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. ALL OF US ARE GETTING CHASED DOWN BY ICE AND YOU ARE OUR CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR ARE TOO BUSY GIVING TAX BREAKS TO BAILIAN BEINGS BILL -- WE ALL COME FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS, BUT ONE THING WE HAVE COMMON -- >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> WE DEMAND -- >>COUN. BASSAN: YOUR TIME IS UP. [ CROWD CHANTING ]. >> >> >> OF OUR OPPORTUNITY -- EQUITY RECOGNIZES EACH PERSON -- [ MANY PEOPLE SPEAKING ] >> AND POOR WORKING PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE CANNOT FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHY EXPECT PERSONS TO MARGINALIZED AND DISCRIMINATED AGAINST -- EXCUSE ME. FOR THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES TO FEEL SAFE ASKING FOR HELP FROM APD WHEN THREATENED BY ICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. MASKS AND OFF AND PROOF OF IDENTITY FOR ICE AND STATE POLICE MUST HAPPEN. TOO MANY POLICY MAKERS -- AM I DONE? >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. WE'LL GO TO NICOLE FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY COMMENT. I'M A MEMBER OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT LAST WEEK WHEN I TOOK A TRIP TO LOS ALAMOS. I WAS ABLE TO VISIT BOTH OF THE LOS ALAMOS PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND SANTA FE PUBLIC LIBRARIES ON THE WAY HOME TO ALBUQUERQUE. THAT'S BECAUSE THE LOS ALAMOS LIBRARY IS OPEN UNTIL 8 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND SANTA FE LIBRARY IS OPEN UNTIL 8 P.M. TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. ALL LOS ALAMOS LIBRARIES ARE ALSO OPEN ON SUNDAYS. IN ALBUQUERQUE, ONLY TWO OR THREE OF THE 19 BRANCHES ARE OPEN UNTIL 8 P.M. ON ANY WEEKDAY. AND ONLY FIVE BRANCHES -- MOST BRANCHES CLOSE AT 6 P.M. MOST DAYS AND OUR LIBRARIES ARE STRETCHED REALLY THIN. AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICES THAT OUR NEIGHBORS DO IS INCREASE FUNDING FOR STAFFING AT THE LIBRARY. THEY DO A GREAT JOB. LET'S FUND THEM. >> JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> OKAY. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, WE'RE FACING DOWN FASCISM. -- AND -- WE PAY TAXES. [ INAUDIBLE ]. -- I AM SO FED UP WITH THE ATTACKS OUR IMMIGRANTS HAVE GONE THROUGH. THEY'RE KIDNAPPING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. MONTHS AGO, THIS COUNCIL REAFFIRMED TO BE AN IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY. STOP THIS AMERICAN GESTAPO FROM TAKING THE PEOPLE. -- BEFORE THAT WE NEED TO HELP. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO SIDE WITH FASCISM. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, PLEASE ABLTH LIKE IT. >> WELCOME BACK. I'M SPEAKING AS RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. PLEASE PRIORITIZE ACTION AROUND ICE AND TAXPAYER FUNDED AGAINST THE PUBLIC INTEREST. FOR NOW, I AM ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. SHOUT OUT TO ST. JOSEPH'S IN THE COMMUNITY. SHOUT OUT TO THEM FOR GETTING A CONNECTION FOR PERMIT APPLICATION FOR LAST MONTH'S HEALTHY CLIMATE NEW MEXICO. AT THE EVENT, SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE COOL DRINKS, FREE BOTTLES, DOG DISHES, AND TREATMENT. I THANK THE MANY PARTNERS AND INDIVIDUALS COLLABORATING FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I HOPE TO SEE MORE FUTURE SUMMERS FOCUSED ON HEAT RELIEF. THANK YOU. >> SARAH. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I COME BEFORE YOU AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER WHO SPENT DECADES INVESTING IN THE CITY AND CREATING JOBS. CRIME IS RISING, AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, PEOPLE THAT TOOK RISKS, ARE SHARING MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF BURDEN. WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP NEEDLES, AND CALLING SCARED EMPLOYEES. IT'S -- IT'S NOT COMPASSIONATE TO LET PEOPLE LIVE IN TENTS AND DOORWAYS. WE WOULDN'T LET DOGS RUN WILD WITHOUT SHELTER, FOOD OR CARE. WHY WOULD WE TOLERATE THAT FOR OUR CITIZENS? WE NEED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, DRUG TREATMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE NEED SUPPORTIVE POLICING, AND INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE. AND BE BOLD ENOUGH TO PROTECT AND HAVE COMPASSION AND ACCOUNTABILITY WE OWE IT TO PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND PEOPLE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING HERE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVALS. EC-426, REQUEST APPROVAL TO ADD FUNDS TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR CHICANOS POR LA CAUSA. I MOVE APPROVAL. THEIRS IS A SECOND. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE LISA FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> THE U.S. IS AND NEVER HAS BEEN A PLACE WHERE CHRISTIANITY WAS PUT OVER ANY OTHER RELIGION. THESE PASSAGES DESCRIBE HOW THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO TREAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT OF THEIR TRIBE OR COMMUNITY. FIRST AMENDMENT ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE PROHIBITS THE GOVERNMENT FROM ESTABLISHING ONE RELIGION. 14th AMENDMENT STATES ALL PERSONS BORN OR NATURALIZED IN THE UNITED STATES ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. NEW MEXICO IS A STATE IN THE UNION. OUR UNHOUSED OR NEIGHBORS ARE HUMAN BEINGS. TREATED AS HUMANS, NOT PROBLEMS TO INCARCERATE. I REALLY LIKE WHAT SARAH JUST SAID. WE COULD HAVE A BALANCE ON HOW WE DEAL WITH THOSE WHO NEED HELP AND THOSE WHO ARE PERMITTING DRUG ACTIONS AND THOSE THINGS UNSAFE. I ONLY QUOTE THE OLD TESMENT AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR EXPECTATIONS FOR THOSE I HAVE FOR MYSELF. THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS. THANK YOU. >> JAMES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS CONTRACT. ALL I HAVE IS FACTS AND MATH. THE LOCAL NONPROFITS ARE STARVING FOR FUNDING. BUT THIS COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION PRIORITIZES OUT OF STATE ORGANIZATIONS. THIS IS ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BILL MEDICAID FOR FIVE TO TEN YEARS. AND WE'RE PRIORITIZING THESE COMPANIES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS 100 BEDS FOR $3.6 MILLION. $36,000 A BED. WE KNOW THERE'S 596 HOUSING VOUCHERS FOR $8 MILLION. THIS IS TWO AND A HALF TIMES WHAT A HOUSING VOUCHER COSTS. YOU'RE WILLING TO SHELTER PEOPLE AT TWO AND A HALF TIMES THE PRICE OF A HOUSING VOUCHER. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT ON EC-426. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK ON EC-426. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. DURING THE READING OF THE ANALYSIS, IT STATES THE AGREEMENT WAS JULY 1st, 2025. HOWEVER, EXTENDED OPERATIONS CANNOT BEGIN UNTIL THE STATE CONFIRMS THE FUNDING? ARE WE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS RIGHT. WE'RE REQUESTING THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WITH THE GOAL OF WORKING WITH THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND THE GOVERNOR'S REPRESENTATIVES RELATED TO POTENTIAL FOR FUNDING. OR GOAL IS TO BE IN A POSITION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO FINALIZE THIS CONTRACT WHEN AND IF THE FUNDING COMES FORWARD WE BE IN A POSITION TO AWARD THAT CONTRACT. THIS IS -- WE'VE OFTEN TALKED ABOUT IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE COMING FOR -- HOW QUICKLY DO HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE AND HOW QUICKLY CAN YOU SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE. OUR GOAL IS TO BE IN A POSITION THAT THEY'VE DONE EVERY PIECE OF PAPERWORK AND NEGOTIATION ON THE CONTRACT SO THE FUNDING -- WHEN THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE WE CAN ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE'RE GOING TO GO UNDER A CONTRACT AND BE LIABLE UNDER THE CONTRACT WITHOUT THE FUNDING YET? >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE'RE SIGNING A CONTRACT, CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YOU ARE PROVIDING US THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT. THAT'S WHY WE PUT INTO THE EC THAT WE -- THE FUNDING WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO SO. TO SIGN THE FINAL CONTRACT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF THE FUNDING DOESN'T COME, SAY, IF THE STATE DOESN'T CONFIRM THE FUNDING, WHAT HAPPENS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE WILL BE COMING BACK WITH A SOLUTION DIFFERENT RELATED TO OPENING THESE BEDS FOR SERVICE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THE CONTRACTS, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I THINK WE WILL COME TO YOU WITH A SOLUTION. AND THAT MAY BE THAT IF THERE IS NO FUNDING IN THE CITY BUDGET AND THE OPPORTUNITY, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR OTHER PARTNERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IF THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK. OUR INTENTION IS TO PURSUE FUNDING STREAMS FOR THIS CONTRACT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I'VE CONTINUED TO ASK. WHAT IS THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR GATEWAY? THESE ARE OPERATIONS AT GATEWAY EAST, IN MY DISTRICT. WHAT IS OPERATING BUDGET FOR THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I KNOW THIS SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS, QUICK ANSWER TO GIVE. EACH ONE OF THE OPERATORS HAS AN INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT BASED UPON THEIR SCOPE. WE ALSO HAVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OPERATING THE FACILITY OVERALL BECAUSE WE HAVE TENANTS IN THERE AS WELL. WE COULD ABSOLUTELY BREAK DOWN EACH -- ALL OF THAT FOR CLARIFICATION. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A BLATANT ANSWER BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE INACCURATE. BASED UPON THE SCOPE OF CONTRACTS AND WHAT EACH CONTRACT IS AND FOR THE OPERATING COST FOR THE FACILITY. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I THINK WE ASKED FOR THAT DURING THE BUDGET SEASON FOR US TO KNOW. I THINK HAVING IT SEPARATED BETWEEN TENANTS SEPARATED AND OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE RUN IN GATEWAY AND ALSO PARTICIPANTS. BECAUSE I THINK, FOR ME, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THESE CONTRACTS BECAUSE I QUESTION WHY WE WERE ONLY DOING 50 LAST ROUND. THIS IS TO BE ADDING FUNDING TO GET TO THE 100 FOR MEN AND WOMEN OR CLOSE TO IT. I THINK SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS SURROUND THE COST FOR EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS. THAT BUDGET WILL HELP US BREAK THAT DOWN. JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST ONE QUESTION. OBVIOUSLY, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO -- I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IT'S APPROPRIATING THROUGH AN EC VERSUS A RESOLUTION. I STILL LIKE TO SEE A RESOLUTION. ONCE WE FINALIZE THE NEGOTIATION, THERE SHOULD STILL BE A RESOLUTION TO THIS BODY TO APPROPRIATE THAT MONEY OUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, IF I CAN GO TO KEVIN MORROW OR LAUREN KEEFE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS AN EC, O-24-18 SAYS WE SHOULD HAVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MORROW. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THAT'S CORRECT. APPROPRIATIONS DO NEED TO COME THROUGH AND BE CODIFIED WITH FUNDING RESOLUTION. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED CONTRACTS DO HAVE AN APPROPRIATIONS CLAUSE SAYING THAT THE CONTRACT IS SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS BY THE CITY COUNCIL. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I THINK WE LIKE TO BE PROACTIVE AND WE WANT TO BE READY ONCE WE GET THE FUNDING. I WANT TO REMIND US WE STILL NEED A RESOLUTION TO APPROPRIATE IT PROPERLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YOU KNOW, I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME -- OUR GATEWAY FACILITIES. AND THE WEST MESA. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT. I COULD SEE HOW IT WASN'T BEING USED THE WAY WE ASKED IT TO BE USED. NOT ASKED, BUT SAID. THANK YOU FOR WALKING ME THROUGH ALL OF IT. I CAN SEE IT. 100%. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. AND IF YOU NEED FUNDING FOR THAT, I CAN WORK TOWARD THAT. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, AND I THINK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER CONTRACTS WE PUT IN AND FOR ANOTHER 50 BEDS, $1.8 MILLION FOR ANOTHER 50 BEDS, I STRUGGLE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARGUE ABOUT TAKING CARE OF OUR OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES. WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO GET A .05% RAISE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VISION FOR THE GATEWAY GIBSON HEALTH HUB IS OR WHAT IT EVER WAS. HAVING NO IDEA WHAT THE PROGRAMS ARE OR HOW THEY WORK OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO HELP, ANY OF THAT IS LOST ON ME AT THIS POINT. COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT IS THE VISION. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ACTUALLY FIX THINGS ON THE STREETS. BECAUSE WHEN I WALK OUTSIDE TONIGHT AND I WALK HOME, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THEY ASKED MANY OF MY QUESTIONS. WE APPROPRIATED $1.8 MILLION FOR 50 MEN AT A TIME ALREADY, CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'VE COME FORWARD FOR THE ORIGINAL WOMEN, 50, WHICH WAS A WHILE AGO. AND THEN THE FIRST 50 BEDS THERE MEN. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE EXPANSION OF THE WOMEN'S HOUSING AND TREATMENT NAVIGATION CENTER FOR AN ADDITIONAL 50 AND THEN FOR THE SECOND ONE FOR MEN FOR ADDITIONAL 42 BEDS. THE SAME PROGRAM WE'VE BEEN RUNNING FOR HOUSING AND TREATMENT NAVIGATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THE $1.8 MILLION IS TO DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF WOMEN THAT CAN BE IN THIS CENTER AT ONE TIME. HOW LONG ARE THOSE WOMEN IN THAT FACILITY BEFORE YOU BRING IN 100 MORE WOMEN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE GOAL FOR THE PROGRAM IS 90-DAY PROGRAM OF SUPPORT. I JUST RECENTLY SAW STATISTICS THAT INDICATE 88% OF THE WOMEN GOING THROUGH THE PROGRAM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EITHER ACCESS HOUSING OR TREATMENT. I CAN'T TELL YOU IF IT'S -- THAT IS OUR PRIMARY GOAL. THAT IS WHY WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON INCREASING OUR RELATIONSHIPS RELATED TO TREATMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AVAILABILITY OF THOSE SERVICES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND STATE LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR'S STAFF. WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON INCREASING HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROGRAM INTO HOUSING. OUR GOAL HAS TO INCREASE THAT INVENTORY. THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO MOVE TO. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THIS APPEARS TO BE AN ONGOING CONTRACT. $1.8 MILLION FROM THE STATE IS ONE-TIME FUNDING. HOW DOES THE ADMINISTRATION PLAN ON -- INTEND ON CONTINUING THIS CONTRACT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS SHARING AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS INCLUDING -- ALL PARTNERS IN THIS WORK, TO DISCUSS ONGOING SUSTAINABILITY PLANS. WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE BEDS AVAILABLE. WE HAVE ISSUED AN RFP AND WORKED THROUGH WITH PARTNERS THAT ARE PREPARED TO EXPAND. WE PUT PEOPLE IN THE BEDS AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE. WE'RE COMMIT TO WORKING ON THE SUSTAINABILITY PLANS FOR CONTINUING OPERATIONS AND DOING THAT TIMELY. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE FINAL QUESTION ON THIS ONE. WHAT IS THE ETA OF WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE $1.8 MILLION FOR THIS CONTRACT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE -- I'M SORRY. LET ME JUST SAY, MS. MARTINEZ IS STANDING HERE BECAUSE SHE INTENDED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND I DIDN'T SEE HER. I APOLOGIZE TO HER BECAUSE I'M CONTINUING TO ANSWER. WE DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE HER TO ADD ANYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO BE ADDED. WE'RE CONTINUING IN DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW WITH THE GOVERNOR'S STAFF AND WORKING THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE DO NOT HAVE AN EXACT TIME AT THIS POINT FOR THAT. AND WE FEEL INCREDIBLY POSITIVE AND HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE VERY TIMELY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. IS THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING 1.8, ARE THEY GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY? I KNOW THEY'RE AN ORGANIZATION FROM OUT OF STATE. ARE THEY BRINGING RESOURCES? OR IS IT PRETTY MUCH THE CONTRACT HERE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE SERVICES THEY HAVE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THEY ARE NOT BRINGING IN ANY INDIVIDUALS FROM OUT OF STATE. THEY WOULD BE UTILIZING STAFF HERE. THEIR MODEL IS SUCH THAT THEY EMPLOY INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY IN WHICH THEY ARE OPERATING. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. BASED ON THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL. ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE RENTING ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A DEFERRAL TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, HOW LONG? >>COUN. PEÑA: UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN A ONE-MONTH? THEY DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? >>COUN. PEÑA: WOULD THAT AFFECT ANYTHING FOR A MONTH? OKAY. I'LL STICK -- UNLESS YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION. I'LL STICK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. I SEEN WHERE THEY'RE RENTING. I JUST DROVE BY THERE. I WAS A LITTLE THROWN ABACK BY IT. I'D LIKE TO -- YEAH. IF THEY'RE NOT USING THEIR OWN RESOURCE FOR THAT RENTAL, I JUST HAVE -- YEAH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: HANG ON ONE SECOND. THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE ONE-MONTH THAT COUNCILOR CHAMPINE SAID. CAN WE DO SOMETHING WITH MAYBE ANOTHER VOTE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MORROW, CLARIFY THE COUNCIL RULES. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, GIVEN THE MOTION FOR THE TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL HAS ALREADY PASSED, YOU NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. A MEMBER FROM THE PREVAILING SIDE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. AND YOU COULD THEN MAKE THE SECONDARY MOTION TO MOVE FOR DEFERRAL FOR ONE MONTH. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. YES. ANY COUNCILORS FROM THE PREVAILING SIDE. I WILL SAY IN TWO WEEKS WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE HAVE DEFERRED EC-426. WE'RE MOVING TO EC-427 REQUEST APPROVAL TO ADD FUNDS TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY BRIDGES TO OPERATE GATEWAY MEN'S EXPANSION. I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. THE DISCUSSION IS ON THE DEFERRAL. THERE WERE OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THE DEFERRAL. FOR THE SAKE OF NOT WANTING TO GET OVERRIDDEN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S OKAY WITH YOU THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. HOW COME JUST 42 ADDITIONAL BEDS FOR MEN FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY? AND THEN, FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, THIS IS THE $1.8 MILLION WE'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED, CORRECT, FOR MEN? AND THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL 1.8 FOR MEN? MY QUESTION IS HAS THE FIRST CONTRACT BEEN EXECUTED? AND DO WE HAVE 50 MEN IN THAT FACILITY? IF NOT, WHY NOT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE FIRST 50 OR 42, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE NOW. AND THAT IS PART OF THE REQUEST TO THE STATE FOR FUNDING FOR THOSE OPERATIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: SO, THIS IS JUST $1.8 MILLION FOR THE MEN? >> I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT ALREADY GONE THROUGH RELATED TO THE 42 BEDS. AND THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL FOR THE EXPANSION. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HAVE WE OPENED FOR THE 1. -- FOR THE 1.8 FOR THE 42 BEDS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT NO. THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE REQUEST FROM THE STATE FOR THE FUNDING. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WE ARE -- WE HAVE TWO CONTRACTS. ACTUALLY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE VOTING ON THREE CONTRACTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR YET. ONE FOR THE MEN -- OH, ONE FOR THE WOMEN. AND TWO DIFFERENT ONES FOR THE MEN CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON THE ORIGINAL 42 BEDS, WHICH IS NOT IN OPERATION YET BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT FUNDING FROM THE STATE. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE EXPANSION FOR BOTH MENS AND WOMENS OF 50 BEDS EACH. WE'RE ALSO SEEKING STATE FUNDING FOR. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THAT FACILITY READY TO OPEN? WE JUST NEED THE MONEY TO OPEN IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE FACILITY FOR THE 42 BEDS IN MEN'S IS READY TO GO. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE FUNDING. >>COUN. GROUT: ARE THE BEDS READY FOR THE ADDITIONAL 50? IS THAT PART READY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT NO. THE 50 EXPANSION FOR WOMEN AND THE 50 FOR MEN ARE ANTICIPATED TO OPEN, I BELIEVE, NOW IN SEPTEMBER. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. BUT THEY'LL BE READY WHEN THESE CONTRACTS COME? OKAY. WE CAN MOVE 92 MEN IN THERE FOR 90 DAYS AND GET THEM ON TO SOMEWHERE ELSE? >> YES. THAT IS OUR PLAN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'M TOTALLY LOST. YOU HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THIS. WE HAVE A CONTRACT FOR 42 BEDS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE OPEN YET AND WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING FOR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. WE HAVE ALREADY SOUGHT THE CONTRACT FOR THE ORIGINAL 42 BEDS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE YOU WENT ON BREAK. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN? >> I BELIEVE JUNE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: ONLY A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO? OKAY. NOW WE'RE BACK FOR THE OTHER 50 TO GO UNDER CONTRACT FOR ANOTHER 50 AND WAITING ON MONEY TO GO TO 96 WHEN WE'RE NOT AT 42 YET? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. THE PLAN WOULD BE ASSUMING THE FUNDING COMES THROUGH, ASSUMING THIS BODY APPROVES THE AGREEMENT, THEN WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THOSE BEDS FILLED QUICKLY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON SOMETHING THAT YOU RESPONDED TO COUNCILOR GROUT, SHE ASKED IF THIS IS READY TO GO. SO WE'VE PAID FOR THESE BEDS? IT'S AN EMPTY BUILDING WITH BEDS WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN? YOUR ANSWER MADE ME THINK THERE'S 42 BEDS ALREADY BOUGHT. IT'S ALREADY SET UP. IT'S READY TO GO. BECAUSE YOU SAID IT IS READY TO GO. IS THAT TRUE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHAT I MEANT IS THE FACILITY ITSELF IS READY. WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE FUNDING FOR THE OPERATOR TO BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO WE AN EMPTY BUILDING. SO WE'RE NOT READY TO GO. WE'RE WAITING ON THE OPERATION TO FILL IT WITH MATERIALS AND OFFICES AND BEDS, CORRECT? >> THE FACILITY ITSELF, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE BEDS ARE THERE. WE'RE JUST WAITING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE BEDS ARE THERE? >> THE BEDS ARE THERE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHO PAID FOR THE BEDS IF WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN MONEY? >> THE FUNDING IS FOR THE OPERATION, NOT FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS. IT'S FOR OPERATIONS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHEN IT SAYS THE EXPANSION WOULD ADD 50 BEDS, WE'VE ALREADY ADDED 50 BEDS, WE JUST CAN'T PAY FOR THE OPERATION. SO WE ALREADY BOUGHT THE MATERIAL, WE JUST CAN'T WORK IT? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE BUILDING HAS THE 42 BEDS WHICH WE PAID FOR WITH CAPITAL. WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR IS THE FUNDING TO DO OPERATIONS. THE ADDITIONAL BED FOR MEN AND THE 50 ADDITIONAL BEDS FOR WOMEN ARE NOT READY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT'S FOR OPERATIONAL NOT FOR PHYSICAL EQUIPMENT. >> THAT'S FOR CAPITAL. WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING DONE IN SEPTEMBER. AND WE'RE BEFORE THIS BODY TO ASK FOR THE ABILITY TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS ON THE AGREEMENT FOR THE OPERATIONS. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEKING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M LOOKING AT BOTH CONTRACTS. WE DID THIS ONE -- THE FIRST ROUND WAS IN MAY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. IT WAS MAY. I'M LOOKING AT LEDGE -- LEGISTAR. THE BEDS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN OPERATING BEFORE THIS CONTRACT, WE KNOW WE NEVER OPENED THE MEN'S SHELTER CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NAVIGATION BEDS? >>COUN. ROGERS: I WAS VOCAL WE DID NOT OPEN THE MEN'S SHELTER AT THE GATEWAY AT ALL. WE NORMALLY HOUSE 50 MEN AT THE GATEWAY BEFORE THE CONTRACTS. MY QUESTION IS, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU $1.8 MILLION IN THIS CONTRACT FOR 50 MEN. WE'VE ALREADY -- IT'S RIGHT HERE. ALREADY APPROPRIATED. $1.8 MILLION. IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT HERE FOR THE SAME PROVIDER. LET ME MAKE SURE THIS IS COMMUNITY BRIDGES. SAME PROVIDER. YOU'RE SAYING THOSE BEDS WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED, 50 MEN, IS NOT OPEN YET FROM MAY UNTIL NOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, A COUPLE OF THINGS OF CLARIFICATION. I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEN'S SHELTER, WE ACTUALLY DID DURING WINTER HAVE OUR MEDICAL SOBERING FACILITY AVAILABLE. WE HAD OVER 80 PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CLARITY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEN'S BEDS WE APPROVED IN MAY ARE NOT OPERATIONAL YET. COMMUNITY BRIDGES IS NOT HOUSING MEN AT GATEWAY, YES OR NO. >> AS I SAID BEFORE, NO. WE'RE WAITING FOR FUNDING FOR OPERATIONS. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHAT IS THE 1.8 WE APPROVED IN THIS CONTRACT? THE COVER SHEET DIDN'T SAY WE'RE WAITING FOR FUNDING FOR THE STATE. IT SAYS WE'RE APPROPRIATING THE MONEY, 1.8, FOR THE CONTRACT. SO, I'M REALLY CONFUSED. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WE APPROVED AND WHAT WE SAID YES TO AND VOTED ON THIS COUNCIL. WHICH MEANS YOU SHOULD HAVE EXECUTED THE CONTRACT. IT SAYS WHEN THE CONTRACT IS EXECUTED. IT HAS THE DATE. SEPTEMBER 29th IS THE START OF THE CONTRACT. MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER 1.8? I'M READING THIS THAT WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER 1.8 TO GET TO THE 92 BEDS OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE WRIT -- WRITTEN IN HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WHEN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION SAYING WE'RE HERE FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET, THE SAME AMOUNT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE CONFUSED. WE ALREADY HAVE DONE THAT FIRST 50. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I THINK MY ANSWER TO THAT WAS I BELIEVE COUNCILOR GROUT HAD ASKED SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPERATIONS. THE 42 BEDS, WHY WASN'T IT OPEN. SO, WE ARE, AS I SAID, WAITING FOR THE FUNDING ON THA FROM THE STATE. CHARLEY CAN SPEAK TO THIS MORE. WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE CANNING FOR THE AGREEMENT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT FOR CONTRACT ON THE ORIGINAL 42 BEDS BECAUSE THAT PHASE WOULD BE READY SOONER. WE KNEW THAT THE EXPANSION PHASE FOR MEN'S AND WOMEN'S WOULD NOT BE OPEN UNTIL SEPTEMBER. THAT'S WHY WE ARE BEFORE YOU NOW FOR THOSE SEPARATE AGREEMENTS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK THAT HELPS. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I CAN ALSO ADD, COUNCILOR ROGERS, YOUR ASK ABOUT THE 42 BEDS. THE REQUEST WAS FOR THE APPROPRIATION OF THAT FUNDING. THAT FUNDING WAS PENDING STATE APPROVAL. PENDING STATE PROVIDED FUNDING FOR THAT. YOU DIDN'T GIVE US THE MONEY. IT WAS TO ALLOW US TO GO TO CONTRACT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT'S WHY MY POINT WE NEED TO STICK TO THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU NEED TO BRING THIS TO US IN A RESOLUTION NOT AN EC. SO WE CAN CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE APPROPRIATING FOR WHAT AND WHEN. I THINK WHEN WE DO THIS THROUGH ECs IT DOESN'T HELP ME BE ABLE TO TRACK ALL OF THAT STUFF. OUR ORDINANCE SAYS YOU SHOULD BE SENDING APPROPRIATIONS TO US THROUGH RESOLUTION NOT EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION. SO THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO JUST TRACK. THAT'S FOR ME WHAT'S HARD. I WANT GATEWAY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I NEED GATEWAY TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR MY DISTRICT. I NEED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK UP TO THAT PLACE AND GET HEADED HOME. LIKE TO A HOME. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M -- I WANT US TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT'S JUST HARD TO EXTRAPOLATE WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE'VE ALREADY APPROPRIATED 1.8. I'M LOOKING AT THE COVER SHEET. ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS SAY PENDING APPROVAL. MOSTLY, IT'S BOILERPLATE IN OUR CONTRACT THAT SAYS THAT. DEPENDING ON THE APPROPRIATIONS. THAT'S IN EVERY CONTRACT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS. IT'S A BAILOR PLATE LEGAL LANGUAGE. I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S HARD TO DO THAT THIS WAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, FULLY RESPECT YOUR REQUEST. I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING THIS. WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL AROUND HOW QUICKLY WE BRING FORWARD OUR ABILITY TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO CONTRACTS. THAT AUTHORITY TO WORK INTO THE CONTRACT IS TYPICALLY ALIGNED WITH FUNDING THAT MIGHT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROPRIATED. AS YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDED IN OUR GRANTS OMNIBUS BILL THE GOAL -- A LINE TO PROVIDE THE AUTHORITY FOR US TO ACCEPT FUNDING FROM THE STATE UP TO $80 MILLION. RECOGNIZING YOUR AUTHORITY TO STRIKE THAT FROM THE BILL. IF IT HAD BEEN IN, WE HAD THAT APPROPRIATING AUTHORITY. WE DON'T TODAY. THIS GOAL -- OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE AND BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT. WE WOULD NOT ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITHOUT THE FUNDS APPROPRIATED FOR THAT CONTRACT. SO, WE WILL BE BACK TO DO THAT. IT ISN'T MEANT TO BE SLIGHT OF HAND IN ANY WAY. IT'S TO KEEP EVERY ONE OF OUR BUSES MOVING AND PUT US IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO MOVE EVERY BALL FORWARD AND ENSURE WE'RE DOING THIS WORK. RESPECT YOUR REQUEST. UNDERSTAND THAT THE REQUEST FOR IT TO BE CLEAR. WE'LL ALWAYS TRY TO COMMUNICATE THAT. WE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT IN THESE COVER MEMOS. BEING CLEAR IN THE FISCAL IMPACT FORMS THAT WE HAVE TO SEEK THE FUNDING AND WORK THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT TO DO SO. AND HAVE THAT APPROPRIATED. PLEASE HOPE THAT -- WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE MOVING THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATION FORWARD AND WE HAVE AUTHORITY TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT, PENDING FUNDING. >>COUN. ROGERS: I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHY I WAS SO VOCAL LAST TIME YOU BROUGHT THE CONTRACTS UP. GIVE IT TO US FOR 100 PEOPLE THEN. THIS IS NOT EFFICIENT. TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND NOW WE DEFER IT AND IT'S MORE WAITINGING. IF YOU WOULD HAVE COME TO US ON THE LAST ROUND AND SAID WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDING BUT WE WANT TO BE NIMBLE AND READY, GIVE US APPROVAL TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS FOR 100 PEOPLE. I WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND SAID, GREAT, THAT'S GREAT. I THINK PIECEMEALING LIKE THIS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I ALSO THINK IF WE'RE BETTER PARTNERS AND COLLABORATING -- RIGHT, BECAUSE LET'S BE REAL, THIS IS CAPITAL DOLLARS COMING FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR HOUSING. WE HAVE $40 MILLION, POTENTIALLY, EAR MARKED FOR ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS PART OF THAT MONEY FOR HOUSING THAT WAS FOUGHT FOR IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR GATEWAY OPERATIONS. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS MONEY IS COMING FROM. I THOUGHT WE COULDN'T USE CAPITAL MONEY FOR OPERATIONS. I THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING AND SUCH. NOW, WE'RE SAYING WE CAN USE CAPITAL DOLLARS FOR OPERATIONS? I DON'T THINK WE CAN. I THINK THAT'S WHY IT HELPS TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN HELP YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE STATE AND THAT MONEY. THE PROCESS, WHEN DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? I THINK WE ALL -- I'VE LEARNED HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS VERY SLOW. WE DON'T NEED SLOW NOW. WHERE ARE WE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE IN CONSTANT DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE ABOUT THIS FUNDING. I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE AT A PLACE SOON WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO SAY WE HAVE THE FUNDING BEFORE US. >>COUN. GROUT: FOLLOW UP. ARE YOU THINKING A WEEK, TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS? WE'RE IN AUGUST NOW. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WISH I COULD SAY DEFINITIVELY, MY HOPE IS WE WILL HAVE IT VERY SOON. WHICH IS WHY WE -- I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILOR ROGERS IS SAYING ABOUT THE HARD TRACK. I RECOGNIZE PEOPLE ARE HAVING CHALLENGES WITH IT. AS MS. SENGEL SAYS WE'RE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE AND BE READY SO WHEN THE STATE DOES PROVIDE THE FUNDING WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY TO GET OPERATIONS UP. AND WE'RE NOT ON THE BACK END TRYING TO DO THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. GROUT: I UNDERSTAND. IT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO BE SAYING, SURE, LET'S DO IT BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. I UNDERSTAND THE PICKLE WE'RE IN. BUT I ALSO KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE WISE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. ALL THESE ANSWERS ARE IMPORTANT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO COUNCILOR ROGERS. THE CITY -- THIS IS A TEAM. IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER. WE SHOULD HAVE A SHARED VISION. THAT WAY WE CAN BOTH WORK TOGETHER. VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK AS A TEAM WHEN ONE HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER HAND IS DOING. EARLIER THIS YEAR, DIRECTOR MARTINEZ DIRECTLY CALLED ME AND TRIED TO STOP ME FROM GOING TO THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. WHEN I DID GET OUT THERE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING. WHEN IT COMES TO THE GIBSON HEALTH HUB, I DON'T SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. I'VE SEEN TWO OR THREE UNHOUSED PEOPLE WHEN I HAVE VISITED THERE. YET, WE HAVE MONEY THROWN THERE. IS THIS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO USE HB2 MONEY? WE SENT A JOINT RESOLUTION FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR HOUSING PROJECTS AND NOW $4 MILLION IS GOING TO BE USED FOR OPERATIONS FOR ONE YEAR? IS THAT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO HOUSE PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE? I STRUGGLE TO SEE THAT AS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. ALSO, I SAY THAT NOT KNOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING IN THE WAY WE SHOULD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WHOLE PLAN IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING. JOUST -- YOU JUST SHOW UP WITH THE CONTRACT YOU WANT TO WORK ON. NOW WE'RE PREPPING FOR THE NEXT 100 BEDS AND WE NEED YOU TO SIGN OFF. THAT'S NOT A TEAM WORKING TOGETHER TO SOLVE AN ISSUE GETTING WORSE IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WE HAVE JAMES FOLLOWED BY JANICE ON ZOOM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MENTION AGAIN COMMUNITY BRIDGES IS BASED IN MESA ARIZONA. THEY HAVE NO FACILITIES HERE. THE LAST CONTRACT, CPLC, THEY HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS ON MOUNTAIN ROAD. THIS AGENCY ACTUALLY HAS NO FOOTPRINT IN OUR CITY. I'LL JUST MENTION AGAIN, THIS IS 92 BEDS, $3.6 MILLION. NOW WE'RE AT $39,130 PER BED. WE'RE THREE TIMES THE PRICE OF THE HOUSING VOUCHER. THE LAST ONE WAS TWO AND A HALF, THIS IS THREE TIMES. YOU PULLED $4 MILLION OUT OF THE HOUSING VOUCHER POOL. IT WAS AT 12 AND WENT TO $8 MILLION. YOU SERVED 596 PEOPLE WITH THE VOUCHERS. THAT'S 300 VOUCHERS WHEN YOU PULLED THAT VOUCHER OUT THAT DIDN'T GET HOUSED. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP SENDING THIS MONEY AT THE GATEWAY. IS THIS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY? IS THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WAY TO USE THE MONEY? THIS IS NOT THE MOST PRODUCTIVE WAY TO USE THE MONEY THE STATE GAVE. >> JUST TO CONCUR -- [ INAUDIBLE ] I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN I LAST VISITED SUMMER OF LAST YEAR. AS IT IS, COMPARING THE BUDGET I'M LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY BRIDGES INCORPORATED, THEY'RE CALLING FOR $2.2 MILLION OF PERSONNEL OUT OF $2.6 MILLION BUDGET. THAT LEAVES ONLY $107,000 OUT OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. I'M SORRY. THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY $1.4 MILLION OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR OPERATIONS. THAT SEEMS LIKE NOT A LOT. IN ADDITION, THERE'S TEN POSITIONS LISTED WHERE THE EMPLOYEE IS WORKING 10% OR LESS FULL-TIME LESS THAN FULL-TIME. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THE MOTION IS FOR TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES, I THINK, ON A 6-3. OR 7-2? OKAY. THAT PASSES ON A 7-2. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-84 IS AMENDING SECTIONS OF THE HEART ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE SALE OR GIFTING OF ANIMALS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WANT TO DO AMENDMENTS FIRST SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS AMENDED. I WANT TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS GOING ON THE SCREEN. IT'S BEGINNING ON PAGE TWO, LINE 16, AMEND SECTION 924483 AS FOLLOWS. AND WE'RE ADDING THE SENTENCE AT THE BACK OF THIS LINE THAT SAYS, HOWEVER, NO ANIMAL SHALL BE RELEASED PRIOR TO BEING MICROSHIPPED. I'LL MOVE THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS CLARIFYING IT IS ELSEWHERE THAT WE DO NOT RELEASE ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT SPAYED NEUTERED AND MICROCHIPPED. SEVERAL PEOPLE REACHED OUT AND SAID THEY DIDN'T SEE IT IN THIS PARTICULAR BILL. WE JUST WANTED TO ADD IT AS WELL. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? THAT BEING SAID, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, MOTION IS FOR DO PASS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SDMRF THANK YOU, MAD . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I'M MOVING FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. IT'S GOING ON THE SCREEN. PAGE TWO, LINE 25, SECTION 92735H8. WE'RE ADDING A SENTENCE THAT SAYS ANY ANIMAL SEIZED OR IMPOUNDED PUSUINT SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR INTACT PERMIT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS TO CLARIFY WE FOUND THERE'S A LITTLE LOOPHOLE. WE DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY IF AN ANIMAL IS IMPOUNDED THEIR GUARDIAN CAN ASK FOR INTACT PERMIT AFTER THEY'RE IMPOUNDED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT A LOOPHOLE AVAILABLE. THIS IS CLARIFYING ANY ANIMAL PUT UP FOR SALE IN PUBLIC IS GOING TO COME IN AND GOING TO BE SPAY NEUTERED, THEY'RE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR THE INTACT PERMIT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? SEEING NONE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR DO PASS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. BEGINNING ON PAGE TWO, LINE 16, AMEND THE FIRST SENTENCE. SECTION 924483 AS FOLLOWS. IT WILL NOW SAY IF THE OWNER FAILS TO RECLAIM THE ANIMAL WITHIN 10 DAYS THE ANIMAL SHALL BECOME THE PROPERTY OF THE ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS REQUEST FROM ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. THERE MIGHT BE CASES WHEN AN ANIMAL IS BROUGHT IN WHO IS MAYBE SICK OR HAVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO BE PUT FROM ADOPTION. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TRANSFERRING ADOPTION TO ANIMAL WELFARE AND THE EXPERTS CAN DETERMINE WHEN IT'S READY FOR ADOPTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. SHOULD WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LAURA FOLLOWED BY GINA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. COULD WE SUPPORT ALBUQUERQUE WELFARE BY MAKING A TWO-YEAR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND PRIVATE MOBILE SPAY-NEUTER CLINICS. PARK THEM AT UNHOUSED COMMUNITIES AND BRING -- MAYBE JUST ONE DAY A WEEK OR ONE WEEK A MONTH. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MOBILE AND GO TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITY. CAN WE EXAMINE THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE UNHOUSED PEOPLE ADOPTING FROM OUR CITY SHELTERS. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BREAK THE HEART ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE SHELTER. MOST LIKELY FUNDING FOR PROPER FOOD AND MEDICAL CARE ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER. WHY DO WE ALLOW THEM TO ADOPT? WE'RE SETTING EVERYONE UP FOR FAILURE. COULD WE REQUIRE PROOF OF ADDRESS? NUMBER THREE, TARGET BACKYARD BREEDING. THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF OUR PET POPULATION. THANK YOU. >> GINA FOLLOWED BY FRAN. >> HELLO, THANK YOU. I AM HERE AS A VOICE FOR THE VOICELESS. THE UNSHELTERED DOGS ON 4th STREET. SUFFERING IN PLAIN SIGHT EVERY SINGLE DAY. THE HEART ORDINANCE MANDATES ALL DOGS AND CATS BE SPAYED OR NEUTERED UNLESS THEY HOLD INTACT PERMIT OR BREEDERS LICENSE PERMIT. THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT BEING ENFORCED. AS A RESULT INTACT ANIMALS ARE BEING BRED AGAIN AND AGAIN. THE PUPPIES ARE STRAIGHT CURRENCY. THEY'RE EXCHANGED FOR SEXORY -- LEFT WITHOUT FOOD, WATER OR SHELTER. FEMALE DOGS IN HEAT ARE RAPED FROM ROAMING MALES. THEY'RE UNABLE TO ESCAPE AGGRESSIVE DOGS OR PEOPLE. MANY SUFFER INJURIES, INFECTIONS OR EXPOSURE TO EXTREME WEATHER. THIS IS AN EXPANDING CRISIS. COMING DOWN TO 1st STREET, GO TO THE WAR ZONE. WE LOOK TO YOU TO DEFEND THE DEFENSELESS. >> FRAN FOLLOWED BY ADEO. ADEO FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I HAVE NOT SEEN DOGS TREATED THAT WAY. I'M SYMPATHIC TO OUR ANIMALS. I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FORCED NEUTERING AND SPAYING OF ANIMALS. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON GETTING ANIMALS MICROCHIPPED FIRST. I LIKE THE IDEA FOR THE CLINIC. I HOPE WE CAN GET THAT. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY AUSI. >> THANK YOU, MY NAME IS TAD. HERE IS LEGISLATION -- WELL, MOST CONSENT AGENDA NO CAN COMMENT. THAT IS VIOLATION. WELL, THAT IS ALSO YOU VIOLATING EVERY RULE AT EVERY MEETING. YOUR OWN CHARTER. WE WILL GO TO THE DISTRICT COURT SOONER THAN LATER. THE CONSENT AGENDA IS HIDING. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. THANK YOU. >> AUSI FOLLOWED BY LISA ON ZOOM. >> HI THERE. JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE OF THE HEART ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS UNSHELTERED ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TETHER THEIR ANIMALS FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS AROUND HOURS AT THE SHELTER FOLKS DO HAVE AN ANIMAL ARE NOT ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THEIR ANIMALS ARE BEING TAKEN. I URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE WAYS WE CAN MAKE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE OF WHOSE ANIMALS BEING TARGETED PRESENT IN THIS ROOM. I KNOW AN UNSHELTERED PERSON WITH A SERVICE DOG FOR SEIZURE DISORDER. AND ONE THAT HAS AN ANIMAL FOR PROTECTION WHEN THEY'RE SLEEPING. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME AND ASK FOR RESOURCE FOR THEIR DOG BEFORE THEY ASK FOR THEMSELVES. THE ANSWER ALREADY IS HOUSING VOUCHERS. IT'S MENTAL HEALTH. HARM REDUCTION SUPPLIES. WAYS PEOPLE CAN MEET LONG-TERM NEEDS RATHER THAN BEING PUSHED OUT. THANK YOU. >> LISA ON ZOOM. WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I AM A VOLUNTEER WITH NEW MEXICO RESCUE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENTS TO THE HEART ORDINANCE. LAST SPRING, OUR RESCUE PULLED 10 DOGS FROM TWO SEPARATE TRAILERS IN A MOBILE HOME PARK OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE. I SAT IN A TRAILER WITH FECES AND URINE STACKED WITH ANIMALS THREE HIGH. THE RESIDENT OF THE TRAILER LOOKED AT ME IN THE EYE AND SAID SHE SAID I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING IS WRONG BUT I NEED THE MONEY. EVEN IF I GET CAUGHT SELLING ONE PUPPY IT COVERS THE COST OF THE FINE. THE RULES WE MAKE ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE ENFORCEMENT. WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE AMENDMENTS, I IMPLORE THE COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE AND IMPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT OF THE HEART ORDINANCE. OUR SHELTERS AND RESCUES ARE IN CRISIS. IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE FIND SOLUTIONS THAT DRAETSZ THE ROOT CAUSES OF ILLEGAL ANIMAL BREEDING AND SALES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE FOR YOUR OPEN? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO WALK THROUGH WHAT THIS BILL DOES AND DOES NOT DO. THERE'S LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING OUT THERE. THE HEART ORDINANCE IS IN PLACE SINCE 2006. IT WAS PASSED BY THEN COUNCILOR MAYE. WHEN I MOVED HERE -- WHEN THIS IS HAPPENING, WE WERE KILLING 19,000 ANIMALS A YEAR AT THE CITY SHELTER. THIS ORDINANCE THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS SAID, NO, WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE. WE'RE GOING TO SPAY AND NEUTER AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS COMING INTO THE SHELTERS. WE'RE GOING TO STOP HAVING TO PUT DOWN SO MANY ANIMALS. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE HEART ORDINANCE THAT IF YOU LIVE IN OUR CITY YOU CANNOT HAVE AN INTACT ANIMAL UNLESS YOU HAVE AN INTACT PERMIT. THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. NO ONE IS REALIZING THAT. WE SEE IT HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW IF YOU AN INTACT ANIMAL AND DON'T HAVE AN INTACT PERMIT. IN THE HEART ORDINANCE, IT ALSO SAYS YOU CANNOT SELL, GIFT, PARTER, OR EXCHANGE LIVING BEINGS PERIOD. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN INTACT ANIMAL AND BREED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT AND A LITTER PERMIT. AND YOU HAVE THOSE THINGS AND YOU'RE SELLING ANIMALS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE PERMIT NUMBERS ON THE SIGN OR THE CRAIG'S LIST ADD. YOU HAVE TO BE FOLLOWING THAT LAW. AND PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THAT LAW. SO, WHAT THIS BILL DOES, AND IT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO WHETHER SOMEONE IS HOUSED OR UNHOUSED, IT SAYS IF YOU ARE SELLING ANIMALS IN PUBLIC SPACES IN OUR CITY, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. AND NO LONGER WILL THERE BE ANY DECISIONMAKING BY ANIMAL WELFARE. THEY SHALL CONFISCATE THE ANIMAL PUT UP FOR SALE. THEY WILL SPAY AND NEUTER THEM AND GET THE CHIP THEY NEED. THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME IF SOMEBODY IS HOUSED OR UNHOUSED. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, I FULLY STAND BY ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR COMPANION ANIMAL. THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE TAKING CARE OF THEM. THESE ARE PEOPLE BREEDING AND SELLING FOR PROFIT IN AN ILLEGAL MANNER. I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL DOES. THERE'S NO OTHER PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL. IT IS REALLY ABOUT ENFORCING THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR ANIMAL. AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BREED AND SELL FOR PROFIT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANIMAL PERSON HERE, IS THE HEART ORDINANCE GIVEN OUT OR EXPLAINED TO ANYONE THAT GOES INTO ADOPT FROM THEM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. IT IS EXPLAINED WHEN SOMEONE ADOPTED FROM THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A 10-PAGE DOCUMENT THAT GOES OVER ALL OF THE RULES TO ADOPT. WE ALSO HAVE A BROCHURE ON OUR HEART ORDINANCE AND WHEN SOMEONE -- NOT ONLY DO THEY GET FIND BUT THEY'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO ATTEND OUR PET SCHOOL WHICH COVERS IT AS WELL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT WE'RE NOT SETTING THEM UP FOR FAILURE, WE'RE SHOWING THEM THE RULES. AND IT'S UP TO THEM THIS AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON THIS LIFE TO CARE FOR, CORRECT? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, ONE LAST QUESTION. IF WE HAVE LAWS RIGHT NOW, WHY AREN'T THEY BEING ENFORCED? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT WASN'T FOR YOU DIRECTOR, THAT WAS FOR THE CAO. SHE CONTROLS MANNING LEVELS. IF WE HAVE ANIMAL CONTROL PEOPLE, AND THERE ARE LAWS ON THE BOOKS, WHY AREN'T THEY BEING ENFORCED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I'D LIKE TO RESPECT THE DIRECTOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION FIRST AND I'D LIKE HER TO ANSWER THAT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: LET ME DIRECT IT TO YOU, NOT THE DIRECTOR. YOU'RE HER BOSS. YOU'RE ANIMAL CONTROL'S BOSS. I'M ASKING YOU. WHY AREN'T THEY BEING ENFORCED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I TRUST THE EXPERTISE OF THE DIRECTOR AND HER ABILITY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. I WILL ANSWER TO YOU THAT I BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENT IS ENFORCING THE LAWS WITH THE BEST RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM. BASED UPON THE COMPLAINT AND THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT ENFORCING THE LAW. I BELIEVE THEY ARE ENFORCING WHEN THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION TO DO SO. I'D BE HAPPY FOR HER TO ANSWER SPECIFICALLY. SHE HAS BEEN IN THIS DISCUSSION AND COULD GIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COULD BE VALUABLE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: DIRECTOR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE DO ENFORCE THE LAWS TO OUR CAPACITY. WE ENFORCE THE LAWS BY ISSUING CRIMINAL CITATIONS, CIVIL FINES. THEY GO THROUGH A COURT PROCESS OR THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS. IT DEPENDS ON THE LAW. WE HAVE RECENTLY INTRODUCED THE CIVIL FINES WHICH IS DEFINITELY HELPING PEOPLE BE MORE AWARE THAT OUR PET LAWS OR ANIMAL LAWS ARE AS IMPORTANT AS HUME LAWS. WE'RE SEEING SOME FORWARD PROGRESS IN THAT AREA. WHEN WE ISSUE A CRIMINAL CITATION, THAT'S A LITTLE HARDER BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM. THE COURT SYSTEM TAKES TIME. THE COURT SYSTEM DOESN'T ALWAYS PRIORITIZE ANIMAL LAWS. SO, WHEN THEY'RE COMPARING AN ANIMAL LAW TO HUMAN LAW, MANY TIMES THE OFFENDER IS GETTING A SLAP ON THE WRIST, GETTING A $25-FINE. HAVING TO GO THROUGH OUR PET SCHOOL. BUT REOFFENDINGING BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST. THE OTHER THING IS IN MANY CASES, JUST LIKE OUR HUMAN LAWS, THOSE OFFENDERS ARE CONSIDERED NOT CAPABLE OF STANDING TRIAL. THEN THE COURT WILL DROP THAT CASE. NOW THEY'RE REOFFENDINGING -- WE ENFORCE IT TO OUR CAPACITY. WE ISSUE THE CRIMINAL CITATIONS. WE ISSUE THE CIVIL FINES. WE ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT NOT IN THE WAY THAT APD IS LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE CAN'T DETAIN. IF WE ARE IN DANGER, WE PULL AWAY FROM THE SITUATION BECAUSE ALL WE CARRY IS BILLY CLUBS AND MACE. WE DO ENFORCE THE LEVEL WE CAN ENFORCE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IF THIS PASSES, HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR ENFORCEMENT? >> IF THIS PASSES, IT WILL AFFECT CHANGE. I'VE ALREADY STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH CHIEF MEDINA ON THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DETAIN WHERE WE DO NOT. AND THEY SUPPORT US IN THIS EFFORT. IF THIS PASSES WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH BOTH OF OUR TEAMS AND FIGURE OUT A PROCESS FORWARD THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE HIGHLY BURDENED OUR APD OFFICERS, BUT PROVIDED THE SUPPORT WE NEED TO ENFORCE THIS LAW. THE LAW WAS IN THE ORIGINAL LAW IT DOESN'T -- IT SAID THAT WE COULD CONFISCATE, BUT I THINK WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO CANFISCATE WITHOUT PEOPLE'S SAFBL -- CIVIL RIGHTS. IT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO KEEP THEIR PETS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT -- >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THERE'S A CAPACITY ISSUE WITH CITY LEGAL. IT'S CITY LEGAL THAT BRINGS THE CASES TO COURT. THE CHANGES TO SOME OF THE ORDINANCES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS HAVE INCREASED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS THAT WE COVER AND THE ANIMAL WELFARE HEARING THAT WE COVER. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE INCREASE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT CAUSES A BACKLOG. THIS CHANGE WON'T? IS THERE 180-DAY RULE ON THESE? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THERE'S NOT AN 180-DAY RULE. IT HASN'T CAUSED A BACKLOG, JUST INCREASE IN WORKLOAD FOR MY DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION, MADAM PRESIDENT. WILL THIS CHANGE OR DIMINISH THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I WOULDN'T EXPECT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE. THE BIGGEST CHANGE WOULD BE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CHANGE THAT WENT INTO EFFECT A YEAR AGO. IF YOU LOOK AT MY MEASURES, MY ANNUAL BUDGET MEASURES, THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE REDUCTION IN DISCESSIONARY CHOICES BY YOUR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WILL -- NOW THAT'S GONE AND THEY SHALL NOW REMOVE THE ANIMAL, THAT'S GOING TO HELP? AND THE DROP IN DISTRICT AND DROP IN COURT IS GOING TO HELP IN RELEASING THEM AND SUCH? THE OFFENDERS, NOT THE DOGS. THE OFFENDERS. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. IT WILL ELIMINATE THE NEED TO GO TO COURT. BECAUSE THEY GET TO RECLAIM THEM WITHIN 10 DAYS. THEY JUST NOW HAVE BEEN FORCED TO FOLLOW THE LAWS BECAUSE THEY WILL -- WHEN THEY RECLAIM THEM, THEY WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH HAVING THOSE PETS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE SPAYED, NEUTERED AND VACCINATED AND MICROCHIPPED. NOT ONLY DOES IT CAUSE THEM TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, BUT IT ELIMINATES ANY FUTURE OWNERS OF THE PETS FROM BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE AS WELL. IF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DOGS WERE GIFTED OR SOLD, THEY'RE ALL BEING GIFTED AND SOLD INTACT, WHICH MEANS THOSE FIVE TURN INTO 25 WHICH TURNS INTO -- 50. SO ON AND SO ON. MORE PEOPLE WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO THE OFFENDER IS NOT GOING TO BE FIND ANY MORE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE DOGS AND FIX THE ISSUE AND MOVE ALONG? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THAT'S USUALLYORY APPROACH AT ANIMAL WELFARE. WE FIRST OFFER RESOURCES. AS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN MENTIONED, OUR HEART ORDINANCE IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE. AND IT'S ONE OF THE LEADING ORDINANCES IN THE COUNTRY. HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES, GIVEN THE ECONOMY WE'RE IN AND THE -- BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LOW AND FREE SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PETS ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW WE CREATED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I YIELD MY TIME. I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER BASED OFF THAT. I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT SUGGESTED THAT THE COUNCIL PUT TOGETHER AN IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESS THAT WE CODIFY INTO A PROCESS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT -- I ASSUME WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU TO DO THAT. WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL TO THE DEPARTMENT? FOR THE COUNCIL TO HELP CRAFT AN ENFORCEMENT PROCESS? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO TRY IT MORE INFORMALLY FIRST. I APPRECIATE THE GROUP THAT IS HERE TODAY. WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON SCHEDULING A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THEIR IDEAS ON OTHER THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE WE COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE AND ENFORCE. I THINK JUST WITH ANY OTHER ORDINANCE TIMES CHANGE AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REVISIT THOSE AND FIGURE OUT IF IT'S STILL FITTING INTO THE BEST PRACTICE MODEL OF A HUMANE AND ANIMAL-FRIENDLY CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST TAKE THE APPROACH OF MEETING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TALK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS, HEAR THEIR IDEAS, SEE IF THERE'S WAY FOR US TO MODIFY SOME OF THOSE ORDINANCE LAWS AND THEN, ALSO, BE ABLE TO GET THEM MORE ENGAGED IN ANIMAL WELFARE. ALSO, CREATE MORE AWARENESS BECAUSE I THINK IN THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS THAT I ATTENDED, I THINK MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BREADTH OF WHAT ANIMAL WELFARE DOES AND HOW FAR WE HAVE COME. SO, HAVING A COMMUNITY THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND WILLING TO LISTEN AND SHARING THAT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE HELPFUL. ALSO CREATING THE AWARENESS OF OUR PET LAWS IS ALSO GOING TO BE HELPFUL. NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR PET LAWS. THEY'RE VERY DETAILED AND VERY STRICT. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE ARE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK OUR LAST ESTIMATES ARE A LITTLE OVER 5,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATION OF HOMELESS ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR, WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT HAVE AN ESTIMATE. WE DON'T TRACK BASED ON UNHOUSED POPULATION. WE DO KNOW THAT MANY ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION AS ARE MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND WE CAN WORK ON GETTING A NUMBER. BUT FOR US, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET OUT THERE. I KNOW LAURA, ACTUALLY, HAD AN IDEA OF TAKING MOBILE UNITS OUT TO THE PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM THE MEDICAL THAT THEY NEED AND WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE ONE OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK. TAKE OUR SPAY AND NEUTER VAN -- OUR VACCINATION VAN OUT THERE AND MAKING SURE THERE UP TO DATE ON VACCINATION AND THEY'RE MICROCHIPPING AND DOING FLEA AND TICK AND RINGWORM MEDICATION. OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN PICK UP THE PET AND SPAY AND NEUTER THEM AND TAKE THEM BACK TO THE LOCATION THEY'RE AT. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. WE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS TO GAIN THE TRUST OF THE UNHOUSED BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO TRUST PEOPLE. THEY DO TRUST THESE PEOPLE, WHICH IS GREAT. AND WE'VE BEEN USING MS. GINA TO BE A CONDUIT WITH THAT. AND EVEN HER TAKING THE PETS TO GET THEM SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND COMING BACK WITH THEM. AND WE'RE WORKING WITH ANIMAL HUMANE AND -- WHAT'S THE NAME OF IT? THE ORGANIZATION TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE'RE STARTING TO STEP ON EACH OTHER'S TOES. WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE CALENDAR SERVICE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I IMAGINE THERE ARE A THOUSAND ANIMALS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IF THERE'S 5,000 UNHOUSED FOLKS IN THE CITY, I IMAGINE THE NUMBER WOULD BE A THOUSAND OR SO OR MULTIPLE HUNDREDS. HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENT ENGAGE WITH THOSE ANIMALS THAT WOULD BE -- ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT SPAYED AND NEUTERED THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE HEART ORDINANCE AND THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT. HOW IS IT ENFORCED AND ENGAGED WITH THAT POPULATION? AND WHAT WOULD BE THE CHANGES NOW ON ENFORCEMENT? AND THEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE MOBILE UNITS. I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. WOULD YOU NEED MONEY TO DO THAT? CAN YOU CREATE MOBILE UNITS RIGHT NOW? DO YOU NEED MORE APPROPRIATIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AGAIN, I IMAGINE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENFORCEMENT, ESPECIALLY -- I GUESS SPECIFICALLY IN REGARD TO THE POPULATION. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS BODY AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH OUR SPAY AND NEUTER DOLLARS. WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE THINGS. WE JUST WANT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM TO COME FORWARD. IN THIS CASE WITH THE UNHOUSED WE WANT TO TAKE THAT TO THEM. THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO US. WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH CREATEIVE WAYS. JUST LIKE WE TAKE OUR VAN OUT THOSE AREAS THAT WE HAVE HEAT MAPPED TO SHOW OUR LARGEST POPULATION COME FROM. WE TAKE OUR VANS OUT THERE ONCE A MONTH TO DO VACCINATION AND MICROCHIPPING AND ALSO PASS OUT SPAY AND NEUTER VOUCHERS. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU GIVE CITATIONS? >> THE FIRST THING -- MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE FIRST THING WE DO IS GIVE THEM A WARNING. AND GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE IF WE'RE GIVING IT TO THEM FOR FREE. IF THEY DON'T, THE NEXT TIME WE GO OUT WE ISSUE A CITATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: I IMAGINE AT TIMES THAT CONFRONTATIONAL. DO YOU NEED APD BACKUP? >> IN THOSE SITUATIONS, WE DO NOT NEED APD BACKUP. MOST OF THE TIME. IF WE DO NEED APD BACKUP, WE HAVE A CONTACT WE REACH OUT TO AND SAY WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED APD BACKUP AND THEY WILL COME OUT TO SUPPORT US. IN THIS SCENARIO, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT POINT, BUT WE KNOW WE WILL NEED IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE EASY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THEIR PET. AND THE ADULTS THERE WITH THE PUPPIES. SO, WE'LL LIKELY NEED APD SUPPORT WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PROCESS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT CONFISCATED ANY ANIMALS IN THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE HAVE NOT CANFISCATED ANY ANIMALS, UNLESS -- THE ONLY TIME THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CANFISCATE OTHER THAN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PASS TODAY IS WITH A COURT ORDER. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF WE PASSED THAT TONIGHT, YOU'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONFISICATE IF YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I'M CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE. OF COURSE. BUT I THINK THERE'S A BIG CHALLENGE AHEAD AS FAR AS BEING ABLE -- I GUESS, TO THE PUBLIC SATISFACTION, WHICH INCLUDES ME AND ALL OF US, THE SUCCESS OF BEING ABLE TO IMPLEMENT IT AND ENFORCE IT TO THE POINT WHERE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. BEFORE I GO TO YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT, MR. MORROW HAD A COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT. IT WAS A COMMENT FOR COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. I THINK IT WAS A MINOR CORRECTION. YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE 180-DAY RULE AND IF THERE ARE PROSECUTIONS RELATED TO PETTY MISDEMEANORS FOR 180-RULE, THOSE DO APPLY. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT CIVIL FINES AND CRIMINAL CITATIONS. HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE YOU GIVEN OUT IN THE LAST YEAR? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME. I APOLOGIZE. I CAN GET THAT TO YOU. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS SINCE WE ISSUE OUR CIVIL FINES, WHICH IS JUST OVER A YEAR AGO, 40% HAS PAID THOSE CIVIL FINES. THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE NOW AWARE THAT'S THE LAW. AND THEY'RE PAYING THOSE CIVIL FINES. ANOTHER 40% HAVE RECEIVED THE SECOND OR THIRD NOTICE. THEY WILL NEED TO PAY THOSE CIVIL FINES BEFORE THEY GO TO COLLECTIONS. WE EXPECT MORE OF THOSE WILL PAY. AND 20% OF THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT JUST ARE NOT GOING TO PAY THEM. THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE PRETTY GOOD CONSIDERING IT'S THE FIRST YEAR. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT TYPICALLY ARE THE FINES FOR? >> THE CIVIL FINES ARE USUALLY FOR MISDEMEANORS. THEY FALL UNDER THE NUISANCE ABRATEMENT LAW. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY APPLY TO THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. BUT WHAT THEY DO FALL INTO ARE -- THEY WILL DO THE SPAY AND NEUTER AND VACCINATION AND MICROHP CHIPPING BUT NOT THE LITTER PERMIT OR INTACT PERMIT. THOSE ARE SEPARATE. THOSE WILL BE A CRIMINAL CITATION. BARKING DOGS, OFF-LEASH DOGS, NOT HAVING A PROPER DOGHOUSE IN THEIR YARD. THOSE WOULD BE CIVIL FINES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. I KNOW ONE OF THE SHELTERS IS IN DISTRICT THREE. I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING THERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY -- THIS IS THE HEART ORDINANCE, AND TO ME WHAT I'M READING IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE CHANGING IS WE'RE ADDING TO NO PERSON SHALL DISPLAY, SELL, DRIVER, OFFER, GIVE AWAY, OTHERWISE DISPOSE OF ANIMALS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, OR ADOPTION EVENTS FOR RESCUE GROUPS. IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT YES. AGAIN, I HAVE SAID SEVERAL TIMES AND I WILL SAY YET AGAIN THIS BILL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOUSED VERSUS UNHOUSED. THIS IS JUST A CHANGE IN THE LAW ABOUT HOW WE DEAL WITH PUBLIC SALE OF ANIMALS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WHEN WE START TALK, I KNOW THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTERS THAT REALLY RAISES MY EYE BROWS IN TERMS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE AND HOMELESS PEOPLE NOT HAVING ANIMALS. THERE'S JUST COME COMMENTS THAT I WAS REALLY CONCERNED AROUND. I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE CHANGES ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ILLEGALLY SELLING DOGS. LET'S KEEP IT TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK HOMELESS PEOPLE, I KNOW SOME, AND THEY ARE ON THE STREETS AND THOSE DOGS THEY TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEM THAN THEY DO THEMSELVES. AND THEY USE THOSE DOGS ALSO AS PROTECTION. SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I KNOW OF DOGS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SAVED PEOPLE'S LIVES OUT THERE IN THE STREETS. LET'S NOT CONFLATE THAT WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY. AND IN THE COMMENTS WE'RE -- THEY'RE A LITTLE UNSETTLING. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE JUST SELLING DOGS, NOT WHETHER THEY'RE HOMELESS OR NOT HOMELESS, WORKING CLASS PERSON SELLING A DOG ON THE STREET, THEN YOU'RE MENTIONING ABOUT CIVIL FINES. IN HERE, WHERE MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE -- ANY PERSON THAT VIOLATES THIS SECTION SHALL BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. I KNOW WE STRUGGLE WITH RESOURCES AND STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS. I KNOW WE WANT TO HELP YOUR DEPARTMENT BE ABLE TO ADD KWTLY DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND I KNOW YOU HAVE A BACKLOG. DO YOU FEEL IT'S NECESSARY THAT THEY'RE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR? DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THESE FOLKS SELLING ANIMALS AND THEY'RE NOT HOMELESS, THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE DEEMED -- COULD BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR OR COULD IT BE CIVIL PENALTIES? WHICH I THINK IS MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVEN THE PEOPLE SELLING THE DOGS ON THE STREET OR TRADING THEM PROBABLY ARE NOT WEALTHY PEOPLE. THIS HAPPENS LOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW PEOPLE -- YOU KNOW, YOU SEE PEOPLE DOING THIS. SHOULD THEY DO IT? PROBABLY NOT. PEOPLE TAKE VERY GOOD CARE OF THOSE DOGS. ARE WE GOING TO THEN, AND I'D LIKE YOUR OPINION ON IT, CRIMINALIZE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY ARE POOR? >> MADAM CHAIR, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, FIRST WE WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED THIS BILL IF IT WAS TARGETING UNHOUSED OR JUST FOCUSED ON UNHOUSED. WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED IT. WITH EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND ALL OF THAT. HOWEVER, A PETTY MISDEMEANOR IN THIS CASE IS APPROPRIATE IN OUR OPINION, JUST BECAUSE OF THE DOMINO EFFECT IT WILL CREATE. NOW, JUST WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER CRIMINAL CITATIONS WE DO HAVE AN OPTION TO ISSUE A WARNING. AND IN THIS CASE IT COULD BE -- IF WE APPROACH THEM, WE LET THEM KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONFISCATE THEIR PETS BECAUSE THEY'RE BREAKING THE HEART ORDINANCE LAWS, THE ANIMAL LAWS, HOWEVER IF THEY COMPLY AND ALLOW US TO TAKE THEM WE WILL GIVE THEM A WARNING. >>COUN. PEÑA: DIRECTOR, IF I CAN INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND, MADAM PRESIDENT. HERE IT SAYS THEY SHALL BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE STAFF AND ASK THEM IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO SAY IT SHALL, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GIVE WARNINGS. CAN WE ADD AN AMENDMENT IN THERE TO SAY ABOUT WARNINGS? >> COUNCIL VICE PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE CERTAINLY COULD AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE WOULD BE A WARNING. TO BE AN OPEN DETAINER TICKET. >>COUN. PEÑA: I CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> I'M TRYING TO GET USED TO THE NEW MICROPHONES. YES, WE COULD ADD A NEW AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT A WARNING AND FIRST OFFENSE OR MAKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FINE OR WE COULD CHANGE THE PENALTY PROVISIONS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT JUST SAYS ANY PERSON THAT VIOLATES THE SECTION THAT BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. IF I'M TRADING A DOG ON THE STREET, IT SAYS THEY CATCH ME, I SHALL BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. IS THERE ANY WAY TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE RATHER THAN SAY SHALL? >> CERTAINLY, WE COULD MAKE IT SO IT WOULD BE ANY PERSON WHO VIOLATES THE SECTION FOR THE FIRST TIME -- >>COUN. PEÑA: COULD BE DEEMED GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR? >> THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD STILL NEED TO SAY SHALL BECAUSE IT'S THE PURPOSE OF REACHING THAT STANDARD FOR CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. YOU COULD SAY -- LIKE I SAID, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF FIRST OFFENSE IS A WARNING. YOU COULD -- THERE IS ALSO OFFICER DISCRETION ON HOW THESE THINGS GO. >>COUN. BASSAN: MAY I OFFER A SUGGESTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, AND TO OUR STAFF, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN ONE OF THE FOOD PERMIT ORDINANCE UPDATES THERE WAS LANGUAGE -- BECAUSE IT STARTED OUT AS SHALL BE AND BECAUSE OF THE FOOD PROCESS CONCERNS IT WAS -- WHATEVER WORDING WE'RE LOOKING FOR, I BELIEVE WE HAD MADE AN AMENDMENT IN THAT ORDINANCE UPDATE TO INCLUDE -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE CONCERNED WHERE THERE'S DISCRETION BUT ALSO MAYBE INSTEAD OF SHALL BE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE OUR STAFF CAN LOOK INTO WHILE YOU PROCESS THROUGH THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I THINK THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS. MAYBE IF THE STAFF CAN WORK ON THAT, YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MAYBE SOME OF MY COMMENTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN MISCONSTRUED. I SIMPLY WAS BRINGING UP MY CONCERN THAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS ADVOCATING FOR THIS BILL WAS ALL ANIMALS THAT ARE IN DANGER IN OUR CITY AND THE HEART ORDINANCE AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. SO, MY COMMENTS REGARDING THE UNHOUSED WAS BECAUSE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD HERE TONIGHT. I THINK SOME GREAT SUGGESTIONS ON BRINGING MOBILE UNITS TO THEM AS WELL AS OTHERS. SO, I CERTAINLY WAS THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE ANIMALS IN OUR CITY AND EVERY PART OF OUR CITY. THE SPECIFICS ON THE UNHOUSED WAS ONLY BECAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP HERE TONIGHT. AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT. I'M SUPPORTING THIS BILL BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES. IT'S IMPORTANT, CERTAINLY NOT BECAUSE OF ANY KIND OF TARGETING ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD RESPOND AND HOW WE WOULD PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND HELP EVERYBODY THAT HAS AN ANIMAL IN THE CITY AND HOW WE CAN BEST TAKE CARE OF THEM. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE ENFORCEMENT. THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF DISCRETION IN HOW THEY ADMINISTER THE LAW. YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND SOMEBODY COULD BE FILING THREE OR FOUR TIMES HARSHLY THAN SOMEONE ELSE. SOMEONE ELSE COULD BE VERY, VERY MINOR VIOLATIONS. I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THE DISCRETION TO THE OFFICERS ON-SITE DOING THE INVESTIGATION. SO WE DON'T TAKE DISCRETION AWAY FROM OFFICERS. AND WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO ARTICULATE WHAT THEY SAW AND THE ACTIONS THEY KNOW. I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THE DISCRETION THERE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE STAFF HAS FOUND ANYTHING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT WAS MORE THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS THAT HAD ME CONCERNED. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, STAFF? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE'RE REVIEWING THE FOOD ORDINANCE. THAT DOES HAVE SEPARATE PROVISIONS FOR CIVIL VIOLATIONS AND ALSO FOR CRIMINAL PENALTIES. WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION OF WHEN IT TRIGGERS FROM A CIVIL PENALTY TO A CRIMINAL PENALTY. THE CRIMINAL PORTION SAYS ANY PERSON CONVICTED IS GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. IT IS VERY SIMILAR IN THAT REGARD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS SIGNALLING CERTAIN CONDUCT IS A MISDEMEANOR WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES. THE LANGUAGE HERE IS VERY COMMON. IT'S THE MOST COMMON WAY OF SAYINGLING IF IT'S A CRIME. WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE WAYS THAT MIGHT SATISFY THE VICE PRESIDENT. IT CAN SAY ANY PERSON CONVICTED OF VIOLATING THIS ORDINANCE IS GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. THAT SAYS WHAT THE PETTY WOULD BE. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'LL SECOND THAT. THAT IS WHAT THE WORDING WAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BECAUSE DUE PROCESS THEY NEED TO BE CONVICTED IN ORDER TO BE GUILTY OF A PETTY MISDEMEANOR. THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT. THAT IS WHAT I COULD REMEMBER. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THAT AMENDMENT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, ARE WE GOING TO GET TO SEE THE AMENDMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT PLEASE? >>COUN. BASSAN: SURE. COUNCILOR ROGERS, WHILE WE WAIT. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE QUESTIONS. WHAT IS AN INTACT ANIMAL. IT MEANS AN ANIMAL THAT IS NOT SPAYED, OR NEUTERED OR MICROCHIPPED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THEY'RE NOT SPAYED OR NEUTERED. IF IT'S A BOY HE STILL HAS HIS STUFF, IF IT'S A GIRL SHE HAS UTERUS. THEY'RE ANIMALS THAT CAN CREATE MORE ANIMALS THAT CAUSE A PROBLEM IN OUR CITY SHELTERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING OUT THE POINT OF THIS IS NOT TO HONE IN ON UNSHELTERED FOLKS. WHETHER YOU HAVE A HOME OR DON'T HAVE A HOME YOU SHOULDN'T BE ILLEGALLY BREEDING DOGS. PERIOD. BACKYARDS PARKS ANYWHERE. YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT. I WANTED TO GO AND ADOPT AT YOUR ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. THEY ASKED ME FOR A PERMANENT ADDRESS. THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN YOU CHECK ON WHEN YOU GO TO THE ANIMAL WELFARE. IT VERY SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR MY PERMANENT ADDRESS. IF I RENTED. IF MY LANDLORD WAS OKAY WITH THIS TYPE OF BREED BECAUSE I WAS GETTING A BREED THAT A LOT OF LANDLORDS DON'T LIKE. THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR PROCESSES IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS, YES IT IS. ALSO, I THINK THE BENEFIT OF AN UNHOUSED COMING TO ADOPT AT THE SHELTER IS WE DON'T HAVE THE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT IS ADOPTED OUT OF THE SHELTER IS SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND VACCINATED AND MICROCHIPPED. SO THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED IN THAT ARENA. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I JUST WANT TO GAIN CLARIFICATION IF VICE PRESIDENT'S AMENDMENT CHANGES, IS THAT GOING TO BE ENFORCEABLE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU HAD SAID BEFORE? YOU SAID YOUR GOAL -- YOU'RE NOT REALLY ENFORCING THIS. YOU'RE JUST MAKING SURE TO TAKE THE ANIMAL AND GET THEM THE FOLLOW THE RULE BUT YOU'RE NOT PENALIZING THE OFFENDER. IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE TO WHERE YOU CAN PENALIZE THE OFFENDER MORE THAN YOU WERE BEFORE? >> I SUPPORT THIS CHANGE BECAUSE IT STILL LEAVES THE SHALL THAT WE SHALL CONFISCATE THEM. THAT CORRECTS THE BIGGER CONCERN AND THE BIGGER ISSUE. THE CHANGE TO THE MISDEMEANOR, THAT STILL GIVES THUS CAPACITY TO ISSUE THE CIVIL FINE. OR THE CRIMINAL CITATION IF THEY ARE NOT COOPERATIVE. IF THEY'RE PUSHING BACK. IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT WANT TO SHOW US THEIR IDEA OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS. IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE LEVERAGE TO HELP GET THE PUPPIES OUT OF THE SITUATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AND THE CURRENT WORDING DOES NOT ALLOW TO DO THAT? >> CORRECT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE CURRENT WORDING OF SHALL BE MISDEMEANOR DOES NOT GIVE YOU LEVERAGE? >> CORRECT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND DO PUBLIC -- MOBILE SPAY AND NEUTER TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR SET UP IN AREAS? CAN I BRING MY DOG IF I NEED TO? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE ALREADY OFFER FREE SPAY AND NEUTER AT OUR CLINICS. WE HAVE -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: BUT THE MOBILE ONES. >> WE DO PROVIDE IT TO ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE TAKE OUR MOBILE VAN OUT. WE'LL TAKE IT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTERS OR SENIOR CENTERS AND THOSE SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES. AND AS LONG AS YOU CALL AND SIGN UP ON OUR CABQ.GOV/TESTS YOU BRING YOUR PET TO GET IT VACCINATED OR MICROCHIPPED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I WILL PUSH THAT THEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? STAFF? >> CERTAINLY, ON THIS AMENDMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD BE AMENDMENT FIVE -- >>COUN. BASSAN: FOUR. >> AMENDMENT FOUR, MY APOLOGIES. PAGE TWO, LINE 18, STRIKE SECTION 9244A4 IN ITS ENTIRETY. AND REPLACE AS FOLLOWS. ANY PERSON CONVICTED OF VIOLATING THE SECTION -- IT'S CONVICTED OF VIOLATING THE SECTION SHALL BE DEEMED GUILTY OF PETTY MISDEMEANOR. HERE'S A TYPO. AND SUBJECT TO THE PENALTIES AND PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN ROA1994-1-1-99. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR DO PASS. I SECONDED IT. JUST TO CONFIRM FOR THE PUBLIC. THAT COULD BE A CLERICAL CHANGE, RIGHT? THE TYPO IS A CLERICAL CHANGE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR? MOTION IS FOR DO PASS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? I THINK THAT PASSES ON A 6-3. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR, ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IF YOU -- THIS IS FOR DOGS AND CATS. WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT DOGS, BUT THIS IS DOGS AND CATS. IF YOU'RE SELLING DOGS AND CATS IN PUBLIC SPACES IN OUR CITY YOU'RE BREAKING THE LAW AND WE'RE GOING TO FIX THAT PROBLEM. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH SHELTER FOR YOUR DOGS, CALL ANIMAL WELFARE. THEY HAVE A DOGHOUSE GIVEAWAY. THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF SERVICES. NM DOG IS AVAILABLE TO HELP. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH SPAY AND NEUTER, ANIMAL WELFARE CAN HELP YOU. IF YOU'RE LOW INCOME, THAT WOULD BE FREE. THERE'S NO NEED FOR YOU TO HAVE AN ANIMAL THAT IS NOT SPAY OR NEUTERED AND SAY I COULDN'T GET THE RESOURCES. IF YOU NEED MICROCHIPPING CALL THE ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. IF YOU NEED MEDICAL CARE, CALL THE ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. WE OFFER SERVICES FOR FOLKS THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, REGARDLESS OF HOUSING STATUS. AND THAT IS WHY WE OFFER THOSE BECAUSE ANIMALS DESERVE REALLY GOOD CARE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE LAWS IN OUR BOOKS THAT MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT GOOD CARE. THIS BILL BEFORE US SIMPLY SAYS IF YOU'RE IGNORING ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE GIVE YOU, AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO TRY TO MAKE MONEY BY SELLING DOGS OR CATS IN PUBLIC PLACES IN OUR CITY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE ANIMALS TAKEN FROM YOU. THEY'RE GOING TO GET SPAYED AND NEUTERED AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUALLY GET PUT UP FOR ADOPTION FOR SOMEBODY THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THEM. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR O-84 AS AMENDED. THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'RE MOVING TO R-177. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-177 APPROPRIATING FUNDING TO SPECIFIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO AND DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO FACILITATE THE DETERMINATION OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE QUALIFYING GRANTEES. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR BACA TO OPEN. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE A COUPLE AMENDMENTS I'D LIKE TO MOVE BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT SAID, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO R-25-139. WE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNOR AND SEVERAL STATE LEGISLATORS TO BUILD HOUSING DOWNTOWN WITHIN THE MRA ZONE AND BARELAS. THEY SENT US LETTERS FOR WHAT THE MONEY IS USED FOR. THIS RESOLUTION IS TO CLEAR THE RED TAPE AND ALLOW THE CITY TO USE ALL THE TOOLS AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR AND GET HOUSING BUILT. >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE WE GO TO THE END, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH YOUR AMENDMENTS AND PUBLIC COMMENT? >>COUN. BACA: I'LL DO THE AMENDMENTS AND THAT WILL ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN THE iPADS. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE WORKED WITH GENERAL COUNSEL, MS. KEEFE, ON THIS ONE. FOR THE MOST PART IT CLEARS UP VERBIAGE AND MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE RULE OF REGULATIONS SO YOU DON'T GET OUT OF BOUNDS AND IT'S COPESETTIC. >>COUN. BACA: ON PAGE THREE, LINE 16, STRIKE SECTION THREE AND REPLACE IT WITH THE FOLLOWING. POUR SUINT TO THE RULES AND THE PROCESSES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IDENTIFYING QUALIFYING GRANTEES, THEY SHALL ACCEPT THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED NFT RESOLUTION. AND THEY SHALL REVIEW EACH PROJECT TO DETERMINE EACH APPLICANT IS A QUALIFYING GRANTEE PURSUANT TO THE RULES. ADMINISTRATION SHALL CONSTRUCT REVIEW FOR APPROVING THE PROJECTS. THE ADMINISTRATION SHALL COMPLETE THE QUALIFYING GRANTEES FOR QUALIFYING REVIEW NO LATER THAN OCTOBER, 2025. IF THEY IDENTIFY ANY BASIS OR DETERMINE THEY DO NOT MEET THE STANDARDS THE ADMINISTRATION SHALL NOTIFY THE APPLICANT AND ALLOW THEM TO OFFER SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION OR RECTIFY THE ISSUE. THE CITY SHALL COMPLY WITH ANY REQUIREMENTS WITH THE NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE LOCAL GOVERNMENT DIVISION FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY PROJECTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-177. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? IT LOOKS LIKE THAT PASSES 9-0. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THERE WAS A TYPO IN THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. AND SAYING ONE OF THE PROJECTS DID NOT MEET THE STANDARD FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS RECTIFIES THAT. ON PAGE TWO, LINE 27, AMEND AS FOLLOWS. IN THE FINAL SENTENCE, CROSSING OUT 80 TO 100% FOR HOUSEHOLDS, AND PUT IT TO 80% OR LESS. THIS CORRECTS THE TYPO IN THE WHEREAS CLAUSES CLARIFYING 100% ARE FOR HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 80% OR BELOW THE AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A SECOND? MULTIPLE SECONDS. ROGERS AND GROUT WHO I HEARD. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. BACK ON THE BILL. R-177 AS AMENDED. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE GO TO THAT FIRST? OKAY. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LISA FOLLOWED BY ADEO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CLARIFIES MY INITIAL CONCERN. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. WITH THE SAWMILL THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUTSING BUT WE CAME BACK WITH A BILL THAT ALLOWS THEM TO NOT MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT MAY BE A MISUNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WENT DOWN BUT THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE YOU COME BACK LATER AND SAY SUSPEND THE RULES FOR THAT AND GIVE THIS DEVELOPER? I MAY MISUNDERSTAND HOW THAT WENT DOWN. HOW DO WE ASSURE -- I SUPPORT THIS VERY MUCH. I SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPER. HOW DO WE ENSURE LATER YOU DON'T COME BACK AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO SUSPEND THAT LAW OR THAT RULE AND THEY GET TO HAVE WHATEVER THEY CAN SUSPEND THAT. >> ADEO FOLLOWED BY FELIPE. >> GOOD EVENING. I THINK THAT PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE AN ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT DOWNTOWN. I ALSO JUST WANT TO REALLY SING THE PRAISES OF THE ZONING WHERE YOU LIVE ON ONE FLOOR AND YOU WORK ON ANOTHER. I JUST CALL THE APARTMENT ABOVE THE HOUSING. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD MAKE OUR CITY MORE PRODUCTIVE, MORE LIVELY, MORE TRADITIONAL. MORE FUN. AND HELP, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIVE AND WORK AND MAKE ALBUQUERQUE AWESOME. THANK YOU. >> FELIPE FOLLOWED BY MIRIAM. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILORS, I COME TO YOU MANY TIME FOR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. EVERY TIME I COME TO YOU IT'S COME THROUGH A CITY PROCUREMENT PROCESS. RFP OR RFQ. WE HAD TO DO A MYRIAD OF ITEMS INCLUDING PUBLIC COMMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, ET CETERA. IN ADDITION, IN THAT RESOLUTION YOU'RE SAYING A FULLY EXECUTED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER. AS I UNDERSTAND THIS RESOLUTION AND WHY I DO NOT RECOMMEND SUPPORTING IT IS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO AWARD PROJECTS AND AFTERWARDS THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE'RE HAPPY TO COMPETE FOR THOSE FUNDS. THERE'S A PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS. ISSUE THE RFP. IF WE WIN THAT GREAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO BUILD THE PROJECTS TO BE BASED IN DISTRICT TWO. [ INAUDIBLE ]? >> MIRIAM FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE ALBUQUERQUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COALITION. OUR ORGANIZATION WAS FORMED TO ADVOCATE FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUNDS. THESE FUNDS ARE, BY DEFINITION, SERVE LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AT 80% AMI AND BELOW. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THE AFFORDABILITY FOR THAT PROJECT. HOWEVER, WITHOUT A TRANSPARENT PROJECT THAT PUTS THE AFFORDABILITY PROGRAM BEFORE THE WORK AND THE CHANGES, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT GUARANTEE THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH INCOME LIMITS SET FORTH BY HUD. WHAT I THINK IS MISSING IS THE LAND USE PIECE THAT TIES THAT AFFORDABILITY TO THE LAND FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PORTION OF GUARANTEES THAT THE AFFORDABILITY WOULD BE SUSTAINED ON THAT PROPERTY FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME. THANK YOU. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY REBECCA. >> WELL, LET CITY FIX EVERY CAT AND DOG. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED 20 YEARS LATER? NOW, THAT IS MY COMMENT. ONE COMMENT. NUMBER TWO, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN BE WHEN CITY OR ANY GOVERNMENT QUALIFIERS -- ACTUALLY APARTMENT THEN ANOTHER GOVERNMENT, 70% PAY FOR TOTAL DRIVING PRICES. CHEAPEST $900. ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME TWO BEDROOM $200. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN GOVERNMENT GET INVOLVED. THANK YOU. >> REBECCA FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT FOR ONE OF THE TWO CODEVELOPERS FOR THE ROMERO PROJECT. OUR PARTNER -- WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO BRING HIGH QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TARGETING BARELAS SMALL BUSINESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT OF R-177. AND WE COMMEND COUNCILOR BACA FOR WORKING WITH US TO GET THIS VERY IMPORTANT FUNDING TO BUILD THIS PROJECT THAT IS IN -- WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY YEARS. YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE PREVIOUS COMMENTERS COMMENTS, WE'RE VERY OPENED TO THE CITY PUTTING LAND USE RESTRICTION HONEST THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE LONG-TERM. WE EXPECT THOSE LAND USE RESTRICTIONS TO HAPPEN AS WELL FROM THE HOUSING NEW MEXICO. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALEXANDER FOLLOWED BY RICKY. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I MAY STRAY FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS A GENERAL COMMENT. WITH MY APOLOGIES. I ASK YOU TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT A WINDFALL BY OUR MAYOR FOR A BIG DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THE WORKERS WHO BUILD OUR CITY RECEIVE A PREVAILING WAGE FOR DOING SO. THIS BODY KNOWS THOSE 11 POLICIES REGARDING THE IMMIGRATION AND THE MAYOR. AS A FORMER CHIEF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THIS DISTRICT, I KNOW WE CAN ALL AGREE ANONYMOUS MASKED MEN TAKING AWAY OUR NEIGHBORS IS SAD FOR PUBLIC POLICY, BAD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BAD FOR OUR DEMOCRACY. I WANT TO APPLAUD THE GROUPS HERE TODAY AND THE COUNCILORS WHO TRY TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED AND RENTERS TO PROTECTED. WE PURCHASED A PLAZA IN OLD TOWN. WE MUST MOVE WITH URGENCY TO PROTECT THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, PLEASE DESCRIBE -- SO MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND, THERE'S A LINK AND A BUTTON WHEN SIGNING UP FOR COMMENT THERE'S A PROBLEM. WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW IF THIS HAPPENS AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT IT'S ALLOWABLE. >> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS A WEBSITE UPGRADE OVER THE MONTH OF JULY. PUBLIC COMMENTS, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT LIMIT IS 30. ONCE THAT IS HIT, IT'S REMOVED FROM THE PAGE. ALL THE OTHER BILLS SHOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO CLICK BEFORE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, THEY WERE NOT -- BASICALLY, YOU COULD SUBMIT COMMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO CLICK. WE HAVE SOME BLANK SPACES THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUBMIT FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WE DID THE UPGRADE AND ON OUR OWNED WE'RE ALLOWING WE'RE ALLOWING PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU'RE ONE OF THE PEOPLE. IT'S CORRECTED, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS CORRECT. I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >> MR. PADILLA, I'M NOT SURE REAL WHAT THE BILLIONAIRE THING IS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IRB AND WHAT WE DID? AND HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS? IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOLLARS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA YES. WHAT HAPPENED IS THE CITY PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT ISSUED INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS. AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING DOWN THOSE BONDS. WE DON'T USE CITY MONEY, CITY REVENUE TO PAY THE BOND DOWN. THE CITY IS NOT ON THE HOOK FOR ANY MONEY. THEY RECEIVE A PORTION OF THE TAXES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID ARE ABATED. THAT'S ININCENTIVE THEY GET TO BUILD THE PARTICULAR PROJECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS RICKY FOLLOWED BY ROGER. ROGER FOLLOWED BY KARINA. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M ROGER WITH THE -- I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS. I WANT TO ALSO APPRECIATE THE EXPEDITIOUS WAY YOU'RE HANDLING THIS. I WANTED TO WARN THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF A PROJECT I SHARED WITH YOU AND TALKED ABOUT IN PERSON, CURRENTLY, THE HOUSING NEW MEXICO MFA IS GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS. EVERYTHING YOU'VE OUTLINED IN THIS RESOLUTION APPLIES TO OUR PROJECT AS WELL. THEY'RE NOW SAYING THAT THESE FUNDS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE EXPOSED TO THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THAT WOULD MEAN FOR OUR PROJECT -- I URGE THIS COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND ALSO TAKE SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA ABOUT THE MFA IS THIS MAY BE EXPOSED TO RFP PROCESS THAT WILL SLOW IT DOWN. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK ON IT. >> KARINA FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE BARELAS COALITION WHO IS PARTNERS WITH PALINDROME. THE DEVELOPER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE R-177 IN SUPPORT. BECAUSE I WAS A RENTER. AND I GREW UP IN BARELAS. MY GRANDMA WAS A RENTER. I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT WILL HELP OUR 80% OF OUR -- MAJORITY OF WORKING PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING ARE SENIORS. THIS IS FOR ME AS WELL IS HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS SURROUNDING US LIKE THE RAILYARDS MARKET, WE HAVE A SENIOR PROGRAM AND THAT CAN HELP US DELIVER TO THOSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HOPE YOU PASS THIS. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> COUNCILOR BACA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO FAST TRACK IN DISTRICT TWO. -- ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR RENTERS. [ INAUDIBLE ]. IN REGARD TO R-177 I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THE RANGE OF MEDIAN INCOME THAT WILL QUALIFY POTENTIAL RENTERS FOR SUBSIDIZED UNITS. THERE'S A DIFFERENT -- I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING 30% TO 50% RANGE. INSTEAD OF REWARDING WEALTHY DEVELOPERS. I ASK IN SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT BUT ASK TO SEE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS LOOKING OUT FOR LOW INCOME RENTERS. >> DAVID FOLLOWED BY SHERRY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR DOING THOSE MEETINGS. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT R-125-177. OUR FIRM IS INVOLVED WITH THE INNOVATION. AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THREE YEARS SEE THIS PROJECT THROUGH TO FRUITION. DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE IS CHALLENGING. DEVELOPING ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY IS CHALLENGING. WE NEED ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT. PARTICULARLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY AS THE PRIMARY USE FOR THIS PROJECT. THERE'S GREAT NEED. AND I VALUE ALL OF YOUR SERVICE. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. >> SHERRY FOLLOWED BY RUSTY. >> YOU'RE MUTED, SHERRY. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND SO MUCH TIME YOU DEVOTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND COMMENTS. JUST I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF 177. ON A DAILY BASIS MDC RELEASED 70 TO 100 PEOPLE TO DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. AND OUR PROJECT IS A VERY CREATIVE SPACE AND HOUSES IT IN AN ART CENTER THAT WILL SERVE THE PEOPLE. DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT -- NOT A MILLION AIR OR BILLIONAIRE OR HUNDRED THOUSANDAIRE. I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HELPS THE COMMUNITY. I'M A BUSINESS DONOR. THANK YOU. >> RUSTY FOLLOWED BY PAUL WHO MAY BE IN HOUSE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BACA'S EFFORT IN THIS BILL. I WORK FOR LINCOLN AVENUE COMMUNITIES. WE'RE THE DEVELOPER OF THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE WELLS FARGO TOWER BUILDING. I CALLED IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE AMENDMENTS WERE MADE. AND ALL OF OUR UNITS WILL BE AT OR BELOW 80% AMI. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF PREVIOUS COMMENTS. FOR THE WELLS FARGO PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE A LAND USE AGREEMENT IN PLACE DUE TO OUR LOW INCOME AND TAX CREDIT THAT WILL BE THE MAJORITY OF OUR FINANCING ON THE PROJECT. THERE WILL BE LAND USE RESTRICTIONS. THANK YOU. >> PAUL. >> THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME BE HERE. I WISH I COULD BE AS ARTICULATE AS MY YOUNGER SON. I WANT TO ABOUT THE HUGE BENEFIT THIS PROJECT BRINGS TO DOWNTOWN. IF WE WEREN'T DOING THIS, THE VACANCY RATE IN DOWNTOWN WOULD JUMP BY 150,000 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICE SPACE. THAT'S HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. BEING ABLE TO CONVERT THIS BUILDING TO RESIDENTIAL WITH SOME MIXED USE AT THE GROUND FLOOR HAS MULTIPLE BENEFITS. ONE OF THE MAJOR ONE IS REALLY ENVIRONMENTAL. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH POLLUTANTS AND OTHER THINGS GET IN THE AIR WHEN YOU KNOCK DOWN 12 STORY BUILDINGS. YOU HAVE TO EXPAND THAT SAME AMOUNT OF AIR POLLUTION TO REBUILD IT. THIS PROJECT IS WAY MORE THAN JUST HOUSING. WE HOPE THAT IT'S REBIRTH FOR DOWNTOWN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. R-177. COUNCILOR BACA TO OPEN. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN. IT'S FINE. YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> MOST OF YOU KNOW ME. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M PETE. I'M HERE ON PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT ALSO I HAVE GOTTEN A JOB WITH THE COALITION. YEARS AGO, I HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT THE ROMERO PROJECT. I WAS VERY AGAINST IT. AND I GOT THIS JOB AND I LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT. IT ADDRESSES NEEDS FOR OUR SENIORS, FOR OUR YOUTH. IT HAS AMENITIES WITH BICYCLE AMENITIES, COMMUNITY GARDEN. THE AESTHETIC OF THE PROJECT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE AND FITS INTO THE RAIL YARDS THROUGH DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT. THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE SEEN, THROUGH THE TIME I GOT HIRED TO NOW, BEING WITH THE PUBLIC AND HEARING WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, THIS PROJECT REALLY AFFIRMS EVERY PRIORITY THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT IS ADDRESSED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME BACK FROM RECESS. I AM GRATEFUL THAT YOU LET ME MAKE MY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TONIGHT. I AM HERE ALSO AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ALBUQUERQUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COALITION. ALTHOUGH WE HAD A SHORT TIME TO REACT IT, I DO APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BACA'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE AN AMENDMENT THAT DOES CLARIFY THE AMI RESTRICTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER FOR IT TO COMPLY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING REGULATIONS SET BY HUD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE FUNDING DOES WORK OUT AND NOT CAUGHT IN LITIGATION. WE DON'T WANT TO SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT. WE ALSO DO APPRECIATE THE STREAMLINING OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, OTHERWISE IF IT HAD GOTTEN RFP IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER FIVE TO SIX MONTHS. IN LINE WITH OUR SUPPORT FOR R-24-69 WE DO APPRECIATE AN EXHIBITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE NEEDS THAT EVERYONE HAS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE BACK ON 177. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD ARGUE LACK OF HOUSING IN OUR CITY IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE. AND WE NEED NOT ONLY HOUSING BUILT YESTERDAY BUT THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY. WHAT THIS DOES IS GET MONEY OUT THE DOOR TO SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS FULLY AFFORDABLE AND FULLY WITHIN THE LAWS AND RULES AND REGULATIONS WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. I URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I FULLY SUPPORT 177 AS WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE WITH FIXED INCOMES, SENIORS WILL BE IN THIS FACILITY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK -- I LOST MY VOICE-OVER THE WEEKEND. ARE THERE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN DOWNTOWN OR ANY OTHERS IN THE CITY WITH REFERENCE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND LIKE THE DEVELOPERS TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THOSE THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE. THEY WILL BE MOVING AND IN STAYING IN THE LOCATIONS. AND IMPLEMENTING PUBLIC SAFETY CORRIDORS. ADDING CAMERAS. EASY ACCESS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. MAYBE A SECURITY STAND. POLICE PARKING. MAYBE A SECURITY COMPANY THAT'S ALREADY ON CONTRACT. AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S RULES APPLIED TO IN AND OUT SO WE CAN HAVE RULE FOR THE SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE. THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ASKS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE AND FACILITIES WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO COUNCILOR BACA FOR, NUMBER ONE, ADVOCATING FOR HIS DRIKT DISTRICT WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO GET THIS FUNDING. THIS IS WHAT I EXPECT TO SEE ON A RESOLUTION FOR THE $40 MILLION OF HOUSING DOLLARS THAT WE GOT, HOPEFULLY, ARE GETTING FROM THE STATE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, LISTING ALL OF THE PROJECTS, ASKING FOR THE SAME QUALIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT COME DOWN FROM THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE WE GAVE A LIST. COUNCILORS SAT WITH THE COUNTY AND GAVE A LIST OF SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ADMINISTRATION MODEL THIS WITH THE $40 MILLION WITH HOUSING MONEY. I KNOW YOU'RE EARMARKING IT FOR GATEWAY OPERATION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN FOR HOUSING. I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT ON THE RECORD. THIS IS WHAT I'M EXPECTING TO SEE FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION FOR HOUSING. ALSO, TO YOUR CREDIT, THIS HELPS US GET THE MONEY OUT QUICKLY. THE HB2 MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT IN ONE YEAR. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THAT BIGGER POT OF MONEY SO WE CAN BE NIMBLE AND GET IT OUT THE DOOR. I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT AND I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION WILL FOLLOW SUIT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. USING THE HOUSING LIST WE CAME UP THE YEAR BEFORE THE SESSION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE ON R-177. THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. THAT ENDS FINAL ACTION. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ADMINISTRATION Q&A. COUNCILORS, FOR QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS THAT NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED AT CAO BECAUSE APD IS NOT HERE. I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS REGARDING APD. AND THEY'RE NOT HERE. I HAVE TO DIRECT THEM TO YOU THEN. WHAT IS THE CURRENT OPERATIONS FOR THE FORCE AND THE HOURS THEY USE? AND ASK BECAUSE I SEE THEM A LOT OF PLACES. WITH AIR SUPPORT YOU'RE RESTRICTED BY HOURS IN THE FLIGHT AND HOW MANY HOURS YOU SHOULD FLY IN A SHIFT. IS THERE -- WHAT IS THE RESTRICTIONS ON HORSES FOR THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES? NOT THE OFFICERS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I CAN'T ANSWER IT SPECIFICALLY. I DO KNOW THAT WITHIN MOUNTED THEY HAVE PROTOCOLS TO ENSURE THE PROPER REST PERIOD. WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE'VE HOPED THAT HORSE MOUNT COULD SHOW UP AND WE KNOW IT'S IN A WINDOW WHEN THEY'RE IN A REST PERIOD. WE'LL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. AND ALONG THE SAME THING WITH APD, THE KDT. THE DEPARTMENT PURCHASED A NEW PROGRAMMING SYSTEM FOR IT ABOUT A YEAR AND HALF AGO. I JUST LIKE AN UPDATE. WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED AN UPDATE. I'M CURIOUS ON HOW THAT PROCESS IS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF IT? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THE COMPUTERS THE OFFICERS USE. YOU RE-DID THE SYSTEM A COUPLE -- ABOUT A YEAR AGO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING CAD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: JUST GOING DOWN MY LIST. I'D ALSO BE CURIOUS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF THE RAISE THAT THE STAFF RECEIVED THIS PAST JULY. AND WHEN I SAY COMMAND STAFF, 47 PEOPLE THAT WORKED FOR THE CHIEF AND DIRECTLY UNDER HIM. WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR RAISE THIS JULY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ANYONE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT YOU RECEIVED THE SAME 2.5% THAT COUNCIL APPROPRIATED HERE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. JUST 2.5. OKAY. THIS IS ACTUALLY PUBLIC COMMENT, MADAM PRESIDENT. HAS THE SOP BEEN ADJUSTED AS FAR AS THE ACTIONS OF DOWNTOWN ACTION THAT LET OUT ACTIONS AT MIDNIGHT? I SAY THIS BECAUSE I WAS PRESENT OF THE CHAOS THAT IT IS. AND THE FACT THAT, IN MY OPINION, IT DIDN'T REALLY HELP SIRENS BLARING FOR FIVE MINUTES STRAIGHT AT BUILDINGS. IS THE SOP REFLECTING THAT IS THE STANDARD PROCEDURE? OR IS IT NOT BEING PRACTICED ANY LONGER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I WROTE DOWN A NOTE EARLIER ON THIS ALREADY AND I'LL MAKE SURE WE CAN SPEAK TO THIS ITEM WITH YOURSELF, RELATED TO THE USE. IS IT SOP AND IS IT CONTINUING BECAUSED UPON THOSE COMMENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: PLEASE SEND THAT TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AS FAR AS THE LAST QUESTION. IN REGARD TO APD, MADAM PRESIDENT, I REQUESTED AN UPDATE ON INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON TRAMWAY AND MONTGOMERY. I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM DEPUTY COMMANDER HERNANDEZ. I ALWAYS GET THE DCs MIXED UP. HE SAID THAT HE WOULD GET BACK WITH ME. THAT WAS SIX WEEKS AGO. BUT TO ADD TO IT, THERE WAS A HOMICIDE IN MY DISTRICT OVER THE WEEKEND INVOLVING AN OFFICER. I WAS GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND I HAD NO ANSWERS TO GIVE OTHER THAN THERE WOULD BE A PRESS RELEASE BY APD GIVING OUT WHATEVER DETAILS THEY CAN IN AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION. IF WE CAN ADD THE FIRST HOMICIDE AT TRAMWAY TO THE MENAUL HOMICIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE FIRST ONE WAS TRAMWAY AND MONTGOMERY? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. THAT WAS TWO -- 12-14 MONTHS AGO. THE OTHER ONE WAS SUNDAY INVOLVING AN OFFICER. >> I UNDERSTAND. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A FEW BRIEF QUESTIONS ON THE MAYOR'S RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDERS. WITHOUT ANY OF MY OPINIONS ON IT, THAT'S NOT THE INTENTION OF THIS, BUT SOME BRIEF QUESTIONS THAT REQUIRES SOME BRIEF ANSWERS TO IT. ARE THERE -- HAVE THERE BEEN CALLS MADE TO 242-COPS REGARDING QUESTIONS OF WHERE ICE IS OPERATING IN ALBUQUERQUE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I HAVE RECEIVED A FEW UPDATES FROM CHIEF MEDINA REGARDING INQUIRIES RELATED TO ICE OPERATIONS AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM OR -- WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM THEY WERE ICE OPERATIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ABOUT HOW MANY? >> I DON'T KNOW AN EXACT NUMBER. I BELIEVE IT'S A HANDFUL. I CAN FOLLOW UP AND FIND OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: BALL PARK ABOUT A HANDFUL OR SO. OKAY. WHAT WERE THE RESPONSES? WERE THE RESPONSES -- WAS THERE INFORMATION GIVEN TO THOSE FOLKS THAT CALLED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I CAN'T SPEAK EXACTLY TO WHAT WAS SAID. MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED UPON THE DISCUSSIONS IS FOLKS ASKED -- IDENTIFIED A SITUATION, ASKED IF IT'S ICE INTERACTION. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH HSI TO DETERMINE BASED UPON THE ADDRESS, LOCATION, WHATEVER INFORMATION WE HAVE THAT THEY ARE OFFICIAL -- IT IS AN ICE OPERATION AND NOT A COMMUNITY KIDNAPPING. UNIDENTIFIED ORGANIZATION IN THOSE SITUATIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU'RE CONFIRMING. SOMEONE CALLS AND YOU'RE CONFIRMING WHETHER IT'S APD OR ANOTHER AGENCY SPECIFICALLY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY MY UNDERSTANDING. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. HAVE ANY CITY EMPLOYEES NOTIFIED OR FOLLOWED THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND NOTIFIED YOU ALL, THE ADMINISTRATION, OF IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE CITY PROPERTY? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY EMPLOYEE REPORTING ICE ACTIVITY ON CITY PROPERTY SINCE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHO WOULD THEY REPORT IT TO? THEY REPORT TO YOUR OFFICE? >> YES, THEY WOULD -- IN THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND STEERING COMMITTEE. WE REPORT TO THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS JUST FOR CITY BUILDINGS. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANYTHING REPORTED, IF THERE WAS THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY WITHIN A CITY BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE EMPLOYEES. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY YOU -- THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY NOTIFICATIONS OF THAT. I GUESS YOU ASSUME THERE HASN'T BANE ANY -- BEEN ANY ACTIVITY. I'M NOT MAKING ANY CONCLUSIONS. I'M WONDERING. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY REPORTS. NEITHER IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OR SIT -- CITY ATTORNEY HAS RECEIVED A REPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AND THE OTHER ORDINANCE IS EXECUTIVE ORDER ABOUT A REQUIREMENT THAT ICE AGENTS CANNOT WEAR MASKS IN OPERATIONS. AM I GETTING THAT RIGHT? THE MAYOR IS SAYING IF YOU'RE OPERATING IN THE CITY YOU CANNOT WEAR A MASK. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. DO YOU ALL -- HOW DOES THAT GET COMMUNICATE WOULD THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT? DID YOU NOTIFY THEM OF THAT? WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THE EXECUTIVE ORDER DIRECTLY STATES THEY SHALL NOT WEAR FACE COVERS. IT SPECIFICALLY STATES CITY DEPARTMENTS SHALL NOT SUPPORT SECRET POLICING TACTICS BY ICE AGENTS. WE ASK THAT THEY DEMONSTRATE PROFESSIONAL BEHAVIOR BEYOND REPROACH. I DO NOT SEE A DIRECTIVE INDICATING THEY SHALL NOT WEAR MASKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. LET'S TAKE THAT THEN. DID YOU ALL -- HOW WAS THAT COMMUNICATED WITH IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP EXACTLY WHAT COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE PROVIDED BEYOND THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND MAKING IT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST PRESS RELEASE COMMENTS AND THAT'S HOW THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO -- THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL LETTER TO THEM SAYING IF YOU'RE OPERATING IN ALBUQUERQUE THIS IS HOW WE EXPECT YOU TO ACT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I NEED TO FOLLOW UP AND FIND OUT IF THIS IS DIRECTLY WRITTEN TO OR PROVIDED TO BY LETTER. I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: WAS THERE ANY RESPONSE FROM THEM REGARDING THIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY RESPONSE AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MADAM CAO SENGEL, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PARKS. I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE ASKED YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS. MOST RECENTLY, THERE WAS A SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT AT LOS ALTOS FIELD. I RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT POOR CONDITIONS OF OUR BRAND NEW-BUILT. I'VE ALSO RECEIVED PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF THE PARKS IN OUR AREA. I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST MY DISTRICT. I KNOW IT'S CITYWIDE. IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, 25-26, COUNCIL APPROPRIATED OVER $21 MILLION FOR PARK MAINTENANCE. YET, WHEN I DRIVE AROUND OUR PARKS, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE ROUTINE TASKS LIKE MOWING, WEEDS, CONTROL AND IRRIGATION ARE NOT BEING PERFORMED. JUST FOUR DAYS AGO, I WAS AT A PARK. AND LITERALLY, THE GRASS WAS SO LONG THAT THE WEEDS -- WE ALL HAVE GRASS IN OUR YARD AND WE KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THERE. WHY IS -- WHAT'S GOING ON? AND WHY ARE PARKS LOOKING SO BAD? IT'S NOT JUST ME THAT WANTS TO KNOW. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE PARKS ARE BEING ADDRESSED AS THEY NORMALLY ARE. IT'S BEEN AN EXTREMELY WET SEASON. THEY ARE REGULARLY MOWED. WE ADDRESS THE PARKS WITH A LOT OF ATHLETIC USE. THEY'RE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING HEAVIER USE. OVER THE SUMMER THERE'S LOT MORE USE OVER THE PARKS. CONTINUING EFFORTS ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS THEY NORMALLY ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WHEN IT COMES TO WEEDS, FORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAIN. UNFORTUNATELY, IT MAKES THE WEEDS GROW FASTER. OUR IRRIGATORS ARE CONTINUING TO BE OUT THERE. OUR PARKS ARE CONTINUING TO ADDRESS EACH PARK AND TRYING TO TAKE CARE AS MANY AS THEY CAN. THERE ARE SOME PARKS THAT ARE HIGHER USE THAT AREN'T ATHLETIC FIELDS THAT GET EXTRA USE AND THEY MAY HAVE HIGHER USE AREAS THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE TURF. OUR IRRIGATORS ARE LOOK ATH THOSE AND ADDRESSING AS NEEDED AND TRYING TO GET THOSE TO COME BACK TO LIFE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE COMMENT THAT MADAM CAO SENGEL SAID EARLIER IN COMMENT WAS THAT YOU'RE PRIORITIZING DIFFERENT AREAS, SO YOU'RE HOLDING BACK ON PARKS. YOU SAID THAT IN COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF DIRECTIVES ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THE DEPARTMENTS TO HOLD BACK ON FUNDING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, MY COMMENT EARLIER IS THAT I WILL BE AND CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON PRIORITIZING PEOPLE. THAT IS EVERYTHING FROM PRIORITIZING PAY WHEN WE SEND DOWN THE BUDGET WITH A PAY INCREASE, AS WELL AS WE THINK ABOUT OUR SERVICES DIRECTLY IMPACTING PEOPLE AND SERVICES TO PEOPLE. IT DOES NOT IMPLY I INTEND US TO CUT BACK AT THE PARKS. I THINK DEPUTY CAO HAS DIRECTLY ANSWERED MULTIPLE QUESTIONS. I THINK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS LIKE EXTEND PERIODS WHEN APPROPRIATELY IN CARE. BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AROUND HOW WE'RE DOING THIS WORK. IT ISN'T MEANT TO BE WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING. IT'S THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FOR EFFICIENCY. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I SPOKE WITH DIRECTOR SIMON ABOUT THE QUESTIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS HE BROUGHT UP IS THAT WITH RELATED TO THESE, WE'RE NOT USING CHEMICAL HERBICIDES IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS HIGH USE BY PEOPLE. BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE RAIN AND EVERYTHING GOING ON, IT CAUSES THE HERBICIDE TO LEECH INTO THE ENVIRONMENT IN PLAYGROUNDS. I GET ASKED THIS QUESTION AROUND WHAT IS THE SEASONALITY, WE SEE LOTS OF GROWTH, WEED GROWTH, BECAUSE OF THE MONSOONS. WE'RE NOT DIRECTING ANYONE TO CUT BACK. WE'RE DIRECTING FOLKS TO MANAGE THEIR BUDGETS WITHIN THEIR BUDGETS. AND WE'RE BEING VERY CLEAR WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS. AS YOU VERY COMMUNICATED AND WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO MANAGE OUR BUDGET AND THINKING ABOUT ALL OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES WE HAVE AND STAYING WITHIN OUR BUDGET. THOSE ARE VERY CLEAR AND DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE MAINTAINING THE PARKS ? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA POINT. I CAN BRING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES THAT YOU HAVE VERY FEW PEOPLE WORKING MANY, MANY PARKS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE SEEING THE PARKS IN THE CONDITIONS WE ARE. EVERY YEAR WE GET TO SEE OUR PARKS -- LET ME JUST TELL YOU, CITY VIEW PARK LAST YEAR WAS THE MOST GORGEOUS PARK IN MY DISTRICT. IT WAS LUSH AND BEAUTIFUL. IT'S AN ENTIRE BLOCK. IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL. THIS YEAR, IT IS A COMPLETE TURNAROUND. IT'S VERY SAD. IT'S NOT JUST ME ASKING YOU THIS. IT'S THE NEIGHBORS THAT USE THAT PARK THAT CARE ABOUT THAT PARK. THEY GET OUT THERE AND WEED THAT PARK. THEY CARE ABOUT IT. SEEING THE CONDITIONS, IT'S NOT -- WE ALL HAVE GRASS IN OUR YARDS. WE KNOW HOW GRASS WORKS. WE KNOW HOW THE RAIN WORKS. IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE SUCH BEAUTIFUL AMENITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITIES TO USE, THEY LOVE THEM, AND THEN THEY SEE THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. IT'S DISAPPOINTING. I WISH THAT THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE HELPING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE MAINTAINING THEM. I THINK WE HAVE SPENT AN AWFUL LOT ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND PARKS. WE NEED TO BE MAINTAINING THEM. ALSO, THE STREET. OUR STREETS, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. THERE'S AN ELM TREE THAT IS GROWING DOWN SAN PEDRO, JUST NORTH OF LOMAS, IN THE SEWER. IT'S PROBABLY FOUR TO FIVE FEET TALL. WE HAD THIS LAST MONTH. I DON'T THINK THE RAINS MADE IT GROW FIVE FEET IN ONE MONTH. I HAVE ELM TREES IN MY YARD. I CAN TELL YOU A FEW OTHERS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WHAT'S BELOW THE GROUND IS GOING TO STOP UP AND CAUSE PROBLEMS. SO, I BRING THOSE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAIN AND FLOODING AND IT ENDS UP IN YARDS AND IN HOUSES AND IN BUSINESSES. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BETTER. CAN I ASK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD COMMIT TO QUARTERLY PARK MAINTENANCE REPORTS DESCRIBING BUDGET AND RESPONSE RATES ? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY REPORTS RELATED TO THE PARKS. AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT FOR YOU TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION. I'M SORRY, MAY I ASK THAT -- YOU SAID SAN PEDRO AND WHERE? >>COUN. GROUT: BETWEEN CONSTITUTION AND LOMAS. AND IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET. OR RIGHT NORTH OF CONSTITUTION. ONE OF THOSE AREAS. YOU CAN'T MISS IT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED AN ANSWER. OUR COO MONTOYA IS HERE TO ANSWER ABOUT THE SEWER. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I GUESS WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE LOCATION. SEWER LINES ARE NOT EXPOSED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STORM DRAIN. AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WE'LL ADDRESS THAT TOMORROW. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CITY STREETS. I KNOW YOU'RE CONFINED WITH BUDGET. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE -- I HAD SOMEBODY COME TO MY SHOP TODAY AND HE WAS -- HE CAME IN AND SAID CAN YOU FIX THIS FOR ME. I SAID WHAT HAPPENED? HE SAID I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE CITY STREET AND THE CAR IN FRONT ME WENT OVER SOMETHING AND WHIPPED UP AND HIT HIS CAR AND IT DAMAGED THE BOTTOM OF HIS CAR. THE BOTTOM OF THE FRONT OF HIS BUMPER DOWN THERE CAME LOOSE. $1,000 DEDUCTIBLE HE HAS. THAT'S WHY I'M SO PICKY ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE STREETS WHEN I SEE SHREDDED TIERS. BECAUSE WHEN THOSE WHIP UP IT DOES DAMAGE TO CARS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S PEOPLE'S FAULT. THAT'S OUR JOB AS CITY GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF THE STREETS AND KEEP THEM SAFE AND CLEAN AND CLEAR. I WOULD -- THAT'S WHY I'M SO PICKY ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. I JUST HAVE -- I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. I KNOW CRIME IS REALLY PLAGUING OUR CITY. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME -- I HAVE HEARD IN MY DISTRICT, IN THE FOOTHILLS WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN MANY OF THE CRIME AREAS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR APD, ESPECIALLY THE FOOTHILLS COMMAND. THEY'VE DONE A SUPERIOR JOB. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FELONY ARRESTS AND MISDEMEANORS HAVE DONE -- THAT HAS INCREASED. THE NUMBERS, THE STAFF ARE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. MY QUESTION IS HOW -- TO APD, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD THAT'S HERE? HOW ARE THEY HELPING? PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. ARRESTS ARE UP. AND CRIME STATS ARE DOWN BASED UPON YEAR OVER YEAR STATICIZE IS WHAT WE LOOK AT STATS. THE NATIONAL GUARD HAS PROVIDED SUPPORT. IT ALLOWS US TO FREE UP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO RETURN TO LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE PROVIDED CRIME SCENE PERIMETER SUPPORT. ACCIDENT PERIMETER SUPPORT. IT PUTS US IN A POSITIONING TO RETURN THE OFFICERS AND PSAs THAT WOULD BE STANDING IN THOSE SPOTS BACK TO RESPONDING TO INCIDENTS. THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THAT. I THINK ALSO -- WE CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THIS FROM APD, THE OTHER TACTICS THAT HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON RELATED TO COORDINATED WORK AROUND WARRANTS AND FELONY WARRANT ARRESTS HAVE BEEN INCREASED AS A RESULT. I THINK CHIEF MEDINA'S -- I BELIEVE IN THE LAST MEETING HE WAS HERE, TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT OUR PR TEAM HAD IN THE WARRANTS AND THE WARRANT ARRESTS. WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WELL TO YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IT HAS TO DO WITH COUNCILOR GROUT'S LAST QUESTION. WILL YOU INCLUDE ME ON THAT? I WAS ACTUALLY ON AN ACCIDENT ON I-40 AND I WAS INFORMED THE NATIONAL GUARD -- THEY HAD THREE OF THEM IN THE VALLEY AND THEY WERE SITTING IN ONE CAR. THEY COULDN'T HELP CLOSE DOWN I-40 WHEN THERE WAS TWO-CAR ACCIDENT AND ONE OF THEM CAUGHT ON FIRE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LOVE THAT INFORMATION TOO. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON UNRELATED TOPICS. I'VE BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT BIKE SAFETY IN THE ESPARANZA BIKE SHOP. WE'VE HAD OUR THIRD DEATH. ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE BIKE SHOP CITY EMPLOYEES? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS YES. WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE THAT ARE FULL-TIME CITY EMPLOYEES AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT MEANS WE HAVE LOST TWO CITY EMPLOYEES IN THIS AREA. WE JUST HAD ANOTHER ONE HIT RECENTLY. MY QUESTIONS, WHICH I NEED TO -- THIS IS NOT IN MY DISTRICT BUT I WORK WITH BIKE ABQ AND I GET LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT, THE MAYOR WAS THERE A WEEK AFTER THIS DEATH HAPPENED TO RENAME THE BUILDING AFTER THE FIRST PERSON WHO WAS HIT AND KILLED, CHUCK, WHO I LOVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHO MY DAUGHTER GET HER FIRST BIKE FROM. SINCE THAT DEATH, WE REALLY HAVEN'T -- I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. I WANT TO ASK. I'M TRYING TO SELF-CORRECT. WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO LOSE THEIR LIFE? I'M LOOKING AT WHAT DMD SENT TO THE ALBUQUERQUE ABOUT THEIR QUOTE ABOUT THE ISSUE. THEY SAID THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED A TIER ONE CORRIDOR. AND THAT VISION ZERO ONLY FOCUSES ON TIER ONE. THIS PARTICULAR AREA CARLISLE AND MONTGOMERY IS CONSIDERED TIER THREE OR FOUR. AND OTHER SEGMENTS MAY BE ASSESSED BASED ON STAFFING AND FUNDING ALLOWED. MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO, WHAT DOES COUNCIL NEED TO DO TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY TO FIX THE THING, THE FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTS? PUT A HAWK LIGHT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP INSTEAD OF JUST YIELD. IN THIS STORY FROM ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL, APD IS TALKING ABOUT WHY THEY CANNOT CHARGE THAT DRIVER BECAUSE OF STATE STATUTES. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES WHO BIKE TO WORK AT THIS LOCATION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THERE'S QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS IN THAT. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN GET THAT IN WRITING SO I CAN GET THE PROPER INDIVIDUALS FROM THE DEPARTMENT TO RESPOND? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SURE. I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE LOST TWO EMPLOYEES, OUR ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO FIX IT. IF YOU NEED TO GET THAT BACK IN WRITING. SURE. MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIX THIS ISSUE WITH THE HAWK LIGHT VERSUS THE YIELD FLASHING YELLOW LIGHTS THAT NOBODY STOPS FOR? SIMPLE FIX. AND SOME SIGNAGE AND MAYBE PSA AROUND WHAT TO DO WITH HAWK LIGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL. LET'S WORK TOGETHER, IF IT'S A FUNDING THING, TO COUNCILOR LEWIS'S POINT, THE FUNDING ISSUE LET US KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER CITY EMPLOYEE OR RESIDENT LOSE THEIR LIFE IN THIS AREA WHERE WE'VE KNOWN. IT'S OUR FAULT NOW. IN MY OPINION, WE NEED TO DO MORE TO FIX THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE IF YOU NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO ME. LET'S FIX THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN FIX. WE CAN DO THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DR. SENGEL, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE READY. WHAT THE PROCESS IS THESE DAYS FOR A CITY COUNCILOR TO GET A MEETING WITH A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I BELIEVE EMAILS TO THE DIRECTOR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY, 63 DAYS AGO TODAY, I ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE. AND I HAVE NOT HAD THAT MEETING. I REALIZE THAT YOU AND I HAVEN'T MET FOR EVEN LONGER THAN THAT. I COULDN'T ASK YOU ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE. I DO THINK THAT COUNCILORS DESERVE THE RESPECT OF GETTING MEETINGS WHEN THEY REQUEST ONE. AND I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY I THINK THE DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION IS LACKING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT SHORED UP AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN THE INQUIRY CAME IN CHIEF OF STAFF HERNANDEZ CONTACTED YOU AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE WRONG PERSON CALLING OR IF IT WASN'T THE PERSON YOU HAD HOPED TO HEAR FROM. I THINK HE WAS WORKING TO CALL YOU FOR SCHEDULING PURPOSES. IF THAT DIDN'T OCCUR, I'D BE HAPPY TO OPEN AN INVESTIGATION INTO HIM FOR STATING THAT HE DID SO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT CALL, DR. SENGEL. I DON'T APPRECIATE BE PAWNED OFF ON OTHER FOLKS. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR A MEETING WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE. THE CHIEF OF POLICE TOLD ME HE WOULD SET UP A MEETING. IT HAS BEEN 63 DAYS AND I EXPECT A MEETING TO HAPPEN. IF YOU CAN'T HELP ME WITH THAT, I WILL ASK PUBLICLY EVERY TIME. I SEE THE CHIEF OF POLICE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR QUESTIONS TONIGHT EITHER. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT IS THE WAY WE TREAT CITY COUNCILORS WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I UNDERSTAND THE REQUESTS THAT YOU'VE MADE. I'M SURE CHIEF MEDINA WILL ACCOMMODATE AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT TO ME WITH YOU. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: 63 DAYS AND COUNTING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I ONLY KNOW I FOLLOWED UP WITH CHIEF SPECIFICALLY BASED ON THE DISCUSSION. WE BELIEVED THEY REACHED OUT FOR THE SCHEDULING PURPISHES. AS HE SAID HE WILL FOLLOW UP AND SCHEDULE TO MEET WITH YOU. I BELIEVE HE RESPONDED TO YOU REGARDING QUESTIONS WANTING TO MAKE SURE HE HAD YOUR QUESTIONS. SOMEONE WOULD BE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. I TAKE THE INQUIRY VERY SERIOUSLY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M GOING TO SAY ONE MORE TIME. 63 DAYS IN COUNTING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS. I DID NOT READ MY NOTE CORRECTLY. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THAT'S WHY AFR IS HERE. I KNOW THE 4th OF JULY IS A FESTIVE OCCASION. IT IS EVERY YEAR. I REMEMBER BACK THAT WE WOULD ALWAYS BE ANNOUNCING LEGAL OR ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. HOW MANY CITATIONS WERE ISSUED DURING THE 4th OF JULY? AS WELL AS COMPARED TO HOW MANY CALLS FOR 311? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. OUR FIRE MARSHAL IS HERE. AND DEPUTY CHIEF IS HERE TO TALK THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT HAS OCCURRED FOR THE FESTIVE MONTH OF 40 DAYS THAT OCCUR IN ALBUQUERQUE. I SHOULDN'T EXAGGERATE BUT THAT HAS BEEN MORE LIKE THE TIME PERIOD THAT HAS OCCURRED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE QUESTION IS HOW MANY CITATIONS WERE WRITTEN? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >> ON THE 4th OF JULY WE HAD ZERO CITATION. LAST YEAR WE HAD ZERO CITATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IS THAT FOR THE MONTH OF JULY OR FOR THE 4th? >> THAT'S FOR THE MONTH OF JULY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DO WE KNOW HOW MANY CALLS WE GOT FOR ILLEGAL FIREWORKS ABOVE 10 FEET? >> ABOVE 10 FEET WAS NOT STATED. WE GOT 2,483 CALLS FROM 311. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GOT THE EMAIL. YOU ASKED FOR JULY 1st THROUGH JULY 7th. THE AMOUNT OF CALLS WE HAD AND THE AMOUNT OF CITATIONS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: IS IT DEPUTY CHIEF? I WANT TO BE SURE TO ADDRESS YOU PROPERLY SIR. IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S STILL ILLEGAL ANYTHING ABOVE 10 FEET? >> THAT'S HOW IT'S WRITTEN. YOU'VE SEEN THE LEGAL FIREWORKS GO ABOVE 10 FEET. THAT'S HOW IT'S WRITTEN. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: AND 311 GOT ALMOST 2500 CALLS? >> YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DO WE KNOW IF APD WROTE CITATIONS. WE KNOW AN ORDINANCE IS AN ORDINANCE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T KNOW IF APD WROTE ANY CITATIONS. AS FAR AS I KNOW APD DIDN'T WRITE ANY CITATIONS. DURING THAT TIME PERIOD WE ISSUED 152 CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS. THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR WE ISSUED 241. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WHAT ABOUT FIRES? DID WE GET 311 CALLS ON FIRES? >> DID WE GET CALLS FOR FIRES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT FIRES, HOUSE FIRE, BOSQUE FIRES. A LOT OF OUR PATROL UNITS WERE ON THE THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH. WE WERE DOING PATROLS. THE ENTIRE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE ENTIRE DIVISION AND THE ADAPT OFFICE. WE WERE OUT PATROLLING ALL THAT TIME. AND MAKING CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS THROUGHOUT THAT THE TIME. WE ALSO MAILED THEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER IS? >> IT'S A FORM OF JURISDICTION RIGHT NOW FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTING ANYTHING UNLAWFUL TO STOP. IT'S LIKE A WARNING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THIS IS BECAUSE I'M SURE THE ORDINANCE STATES YOU HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN ORDER -- AND SEE THE VIOLATION IN ORDER -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY WITNESS LIGHTING THE FIREWORK IN ORDER FOR US TO WRITE A CITATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO THE CEASE AND DESIST IS A BLANKET THING. WE CAN'T PINPOINT WHO LIT THE FIREWORK, BUT STOP ALL THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY? >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE USE A LOT OF THESE WHEN WE SHOW UP TO THESE ADDRESSES. IT'S NOT JUST THE ADDRESSES WE COMPLAINTS. IT'S EVERYWHERE. IT'S HARD TO -- AS YOU KNOW, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT -- IT'S HARD IF YOU'RE EN ROUTE TO A CALL AND EVERYONE IS DOING THE SAME THING, OUR UNITS ARE USUALLY GETTING SIDETRACKED. IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: VERY UNDERSTANDABLE. I KNOW. MADAM PRESIDENT, ONE LAST QUESTION. THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT FIRES CAUSED? OBVIOUSLY, WHEN THE ENTIREWORKS GO UP AND THEY HAVE TO COME DOWN. THERE WERE NO CALLS OF SIGNIFICANT FIRES CAUSED OR PERHAPS BY CHANCE OF THOSE FIREWORKS COMING DOWN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE NO. THE ONLY FIRE THAT WE HAD DURING THE 4th OF JULY WAS THE INCIDENT ON THE 2nd WHEN THE HOUSE BLEW UP. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I ACTUALLY HAVE AN EMAIL THAT HAS THE STATS THAT YOU PROVIDED ME TODAY. 2,823 CALLS FROM 311 THE WEEK BEFORE AND AFTER 4th OF JULY. 214 CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS. AND NO CITATIONS. DATA FROM 2024, 2054 CALLS FROM 311 THE WEEK BEFORE AND AFTER 4th OF JULY. AND 168 AND DESIST ORDERS. ZERO CITATIONS. DATA FOR 2023, 2609 CALLS FROM 311, 114 CEASE AND DESIST, ZERO CITATIONS. I'M ALMOST CERTAIN IT DOES SAY THAT YOU CAN GIVE A CITATION TO THE HOMEOWNER. >> IT SAYS WE HAVE TO PHYSICALLY SEE THE FIREWORK BEING SHOT OFF. >>COUN. GROUT: AT THE HOME? >> THE PERSON LIGHTING THE FIREWORK. >>COUN. GROUT: WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF CITIES THAT GO AFTER HOMEOWNERS. IN CALIFORNIA THEY STARTED A DRONE PROGRAM. BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE FALLOUT FROM THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: DO THE DRONES FOR APD WORK FOR THIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WORK. >>COUN. GROUT: THERE WAS A FIRE IN MY AREA. THE NEIGHBORS PUT IT OUT FROM ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND WOULD NOT STOPLIGHTING OFF THE FIREWORKS. THERE WERE TWO HOMES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PUTTING OUT THE FIRES. IT WAS A BIG ONE. I'M ALMOST CERTAIN WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ORDINANCE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO STRENGTHEN IT. WE SHOULD WORK WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO -- SO WE CAN HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT YOU CAN GO OUT INTO THE DIFFERENT COUNTY AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD TALK WITH OUR LEGISLATORS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THIS. IT'S A BIG DEAL. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO LOSE THEIR HOME. OR OUR BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE TO GO BYE BYE. >> I AGREE. IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR US TO DO OUR JOB WHEN YOU CAN DRIVE TEN MINUTE AND PURCHASE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. WE GET THREATS. WE GO THROUGH A LOT IN THE 4th OF JULY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. WE KNOW YOUR JOB IS HARD. WE NEED SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP DO YOUR JOB BETTER. >> WE'RE WILLING TO LOOK AT ANYTHING TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR US. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAD SOMETHING POSITIVE I WANTED TO SAY. YOU DON'T OFTEN HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME. I OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE STREET SWEEPERS IN MY DISTRICT. I SEE THEM WHEN THEY'RE LEAVING THE ARMORY TO GO TO OTHER NEIGHBORS. THEY'RE NEVER SWEEPING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS WEEK, ALONG CENTRAL ON MONDAY I NOTICED THE STREET SWEEPER ON CENTRAL. IT MADE A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO -- I KNOW THAT WAS SOLID WASTE AND A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS HELPING WITH THAT. I KNOW I'M ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH IN MY DISTRICT. AND I WAS OUT ON SUNDAY THE DAY BEFORE PICKING UP TRASH. I'M NOT AGAINST ROLLING UP THE SLEEVES. WE COLLECTED A HUNDRED BAGS OF TRASH IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT LAST SUNDAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE IT COMPLIMENTED WHAT WE DID. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM MORE REGULARLY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU BECAUSE IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU TO SOLID WASTE. I ASKED FOR TRASH CANS LONG CENTRAL SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN ON EVERY SINGLE -- I SEEN THEM NOW BEING INSTALLED. I THINK WE'RE ALL THE WAY UP TO LOUISIANA NOW. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO SOLID WASTE BECAUSE WE SAW THE BLOCK BY BLOCK FOLKS CLOSER TO MY HOUSE, WHICH I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. BECAUSE IT IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE. I HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS. I'VE GOTTEN EMAILS ABOUT IT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. LET'S KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.