[0:00] Mayor Mary Fasbender: agents I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all welcome and let the role reflect that majority of the members all the council members are present in a quorum has been established council members are there any corrections to the minutes from the workshops or the regular meeting on August 7th okay a comments from the audience at this time will take comments from the audience if anybody is wishing to speak to the council at this time via [0:46] in the room or email no one on Zoom okay council members are there any Council items to be considered okay Council I would accept a motion to approve the consent agenda council member Fox and council member Haus discussion Council all those in favor of the Motion state by saying aye aye opposed to that motion Say by saying name and that motion prevails tonight under Parks and Recreation we have an agreement amendment number one with Epix facility Solutions LLC and to give us an update on this is [1:32] Chris Jenkins: Chris Jenkins our Parks and Rec director welcome Chris thank you mayor council yes as you mentioned we are here for uh the Hastings Civic Arena this is the refrigeration the roofing process project and we have an agreement with Apex there are in design Engineers basically our general contractor as well for the project and through this Energy Efficiency agreement we wanted to bring each step back to the council step by step and we'll do that via an amendment to the master agreement it's a little distracting to look at it it's good humor [2:25] Chris Jenkins: I don't know I'll just turn you away it's fine classic [2:43] Chris Jenkins: all right so amendment number one uh this covers the motor control center for the refrigeration plant which again is that long lead item 50 to 70 weeks so the design and Engineering has been completed for the refrigeration plant qualified bitters were welcomed to come and check out the project and provide their bids those bid Tabs are in the in the council packet so in this particular case it did wind up being low bid for each of the different components of the refrigeration project but all highly qualified contractors so in order to order that motor control center we need to do that very soon so we can have ice in October of 2024 and that cost is not [3:32] Chris Jenkins: to exceed 258 929 dollars and again this is a guaranteed price through this process the second piece of that is the West rink roof again bitters welcomed out qualified bitters welcomed out and provided bids and the price of that is 1.16 million dollars and change and we're asking for tonight is for Council to approve this amendment to the agreement and with that we can get rolling with ordering the motor control center and guaranteeing that Roofing price for 2024 that is a 2024 cost even though it was bid now but we don't want those quotes and bids to expire so with that I can stand for questions we also have Rob and Greg here from Apex [4:18] Chris Jenkins: as well if there's any technical questions that I can't answer which there could be thank you Chris Council any questions councilmember Fox [4:32] Councilmember Jen Fox: your honor thank you uh Chris thanks for making this a priority and and getting these numbers to us as quickly as possible and keeping this project moving forward Robin Greg thanks for being here tonight um I moved to approve the agreement amendment number one with Apex facility Solutions LLC [4:51] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay thank you councilmember Fox second by councilmember Leifeld new discussion any discussion Council all those in favor of the Motion state by [5:04] saying aye aye opposed to that Motion state by saying nay and that motion prevails thank you Marion Council thank you thank you tonight under administration of uh absentee ballot and for this item we will have an introduction by City administrator Dan Wietecha Dan [5:36] Dan Wietecha: thank you mayor this goes back a few months some ongoing conversations with Dakota County um and a few different iterations and and much improved from what was proposed a couple of months ago but in general the thought is that all absentee ballots uh could be handled through the county rather than each each [5:51] of the municipalities individually and uh that having that centralized hopefully would streamline things bring down some costs make the process a bit easier and the proposal winds up that uh in even years the years that we have an election uh the city would pick up uh 45 of the the base costs uh as well as um uh some of the other um processing costs you know the the postage and things like that uh in the odd years when we don't have a budget we'd still pick up 25 of the the base costs the [6:36] staff costs uh essentially that's because can't hire and fire every other year there's still stuff that they would have for preparing during off years training and things like that also so in the off year a lesser amount but obviously not the uh the the mailings and stuff like that in the off years the schools would participate the other piece to it and I don't see it noted in the memo but I know it was in the it is in the memo number four there is some money from the state for voter funds to the county and if we did this participation the county would [7:22] apply that to our costs and help essentially buy down our and the other municipalities costs for for doing this in the end we would still need to have some additional uh uh election judges some staffing here in the office because people could still come here during those 46 days prior to the election um but certainly much less than if we were doing it ourselves so we project it's about a twelve thousand dollar savings for the city a little bit of an unknown uh this is a big project in new further County and can they handle it we think it's worth a try and recommend that we would proceed with this the [8:10] thought being during the the odd year the the second year of this two pending two-year agreement we could get out of it if it didn't work the first time so we're not married to it forever um uh we do not have a jpa joint Powers agreement yet that's being drafted but because the essentially the numbers depend on all municipalities or majority of the municipalities participating the counties wanting to get a pulse for who is likely to be in that's what's requested tonight is is our intent to participate with this we'll bring a jpa in a couple of weeks or a couple of meetings but staff's recommendation is that we should should enter into this [8:57] and proceed with it with that I can take questions thanks okay thank you Dan any questions Council councilmember Fox [9:11] Councilmember Jen Fox: just as a point of clarification Dan thank you if they're um if we get the receive the jpa and we disagree with it we still have the opportunity to move away from this model [9:24] Dan Wietecha: yeah nothing signed yet you might have somebody try to guilt you into you guys said you you were supportive of this but we haven't seen the final language yet we've seen drafts of it but rather than rushing something that was a draft figured it was easier to leave it as the you know the bullet point concept these these actually these bullet points one two three four five six are straight [9:43] from their email this isn't my words this is this is the County's uh presentation of it [10:14] Councilmember Jen Fox: just just that just checking thank you I am in support of this move [10:19] Mayor Mary Fasbender: thank you councilmember Fox councilmember Pemble [10:24] Councilmember Dave Pemble: Dan when we're talking about um cost savings and now if we were to not like the first results and in the odd year say we're out and do we have to let's say re-energize our program and bring ourselves I mean we just can't turn the switch off and turn the switch on is what I'm thinking here [10:30] and and what are we talking about cost wise on something like that [10:47] Dan Wietecha: council member I wouldn't be overly worried about the re-energizing our program because we will still be staffed during those absentee voting periods so it's just we're not as staffed up as we might be so it's not a matter of needing to start something fresh it's something that just we need to turn up the volume not turn it on uh costs if we're predicting it's about a twelve thousand dollar savings well let's twelve thousand dollar cost annually [11:18] Councilmember Dave Pemble: [Music] recognot motion shouldn't accept this moving forward as it is now and looking at it saying okay we need to see the hard facts and have that come back and visit us when we really have the hard numbers knowing where we're at but right now I think it behooves this Council to move ahead and accept this and be part of this program for election judging okay thank you council member Pemble we have a motion on the table councilmember Fox [11:53] Councilmember Jen Fox: thank you your honor I you know in reading this through something that I [12:01] really like is obviously uh taking away some of the burden from our own staff to be having to fulfill these duties because there is a new burden that's been established with the length of which um uh we're going to have to be allowing the public to be voting and such and so I'm glad that there's a cost savings here that we're going to be seeing and that it seems to me that it'll be more efficient um something that caught my eye here is that it'll it'll streamline election night reporting on absentee ballots because the ballots will already be with account be with the county and so that's something that's happened in years past where there's been glitches you know [12:47] with the counting of the ballots and and reporting being delayed and not coming in until on the wee hours of the night and so I think that that's all really great um something I just wanted to give the council a heads up at on As We the finance committee of the council have been we've had two meetings now to talk about finances for the next year and that something that staff are bringing forward is asking to increase the dollar amount that's being paid to the election judges on the day you know for their services that are being provided and I think it was maybe two or three dollars more an hour which wasn't a lot but it was [13:33] trying to you know make it more competitive with other jurisdictions what they've been offering and so I just wanted to point out that hopefully this might Offset you know some of the expenses that we're having you know with the election and such so that when you see that that we're going to have the um and I think that the three of us that were supportive yes of helping increase the amount that's being paid to the election judges that it'll be offset with this savings hopefully here if so we need a second to the motion oh council member Haus [14:14] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay newer additional discussion Council all those in favor of the Motion state by saying aye I opposed to that Motion state by saying nay and then motion prevails today we have a budget pre-approved of pickup trucks and Dan will continue with an up-to-date update on this thank you [14:26] Dan Wietecha: um this is quicker than we intended to bring something like this to you guys we wanted to um be a little bit further along with the the budget planning for next year we wanted the chance to have the council have its Workshop in September possibly have its preliminary Levy set in September but there is a order window that opened up before we were ready and so trying to move quick because of that if we are interested in Dodge pickup trucks uh in the 24 budget the window is [15:08] open we do not know a date that it'll be closed but expect it in the next week or two so bringing this now I anticipate that later this fall we'll bring some other pre-authorizations because of uh short order windows or long lead times but essentially uh there's a couple of things in here one um we are in this budget uh working towards bringing all of our fleet vehicles uh into a more regular and quicker replacement cycle uh let's let's have them on a five-year rotation rather than for most of them driving them into the ground and essentially what this is is it's um [15:54] capitalizing on the fact that the city through the state bid pricing is able to get a better price than what you know the average person just off off the lot would be able to get when we drive it in the ground we lose that difference in the value if we turn around and sell it while it still has value it actually it it is more cost effective on a per year basis so that's what we're working towards uh because it's more vehicles in any given year than we normally would work towards or would normally be purchasing we've been talking with Enterprise Fleet Management and what Enterprise brings us [16:39] is two things one the opportunity to lease the vehicle so instead of purchasing it for forty thousand dollars we could lease it for whatever whatever the math is nine thousand dollars a year so it gives us some you know ease into the budget instead of doing it all at once uh but then the other piece is because they um acquire many more Vehicles than we might they have access to vehicles in some of these order Windows better than than we do so we're hoping that some of the difficulty we've seen ordering Vehicles the last couple of years uh may be easier with working with them so that that's why why the lease instead [17:25] of uh purchase like we normally have done in the past but essentially we're looking at six pickup trucks uh they're replacing current trucks that are anywhere from 2001 to 2007's the most the the newest model on there that they're replacing they're they're due but it this is the first step of of several years at getting into a ongoing rotational basis for for our vehicles in the long run it's it's the cost-effective approach but I can take questions I know that that we did not really get into this mechanic during our finance committee discussions we noted [18:11] that there was a placeholder for the vehicles but did not get into the details I did give a preview of it back in December but that was months ago so I can certainly take any questions thank you [18:18] Mayor Mary Fasbender: thank you Dan answer any questions councilmember Fox [18:29] Councilmember Jen Fox: thank you thank you your honor Dan you know when I first started on the council the city had been leasing vehicles at the time which I know was several years before you began but um and then the pendulum swung to you know purchasing them and so now we're going back to Leasing and I didn't see any cost benefit analysis actually in here I know that [18:57] um in the last couple of years with uh vehicle uh shortages of you know with coveted disruptions and supply chain and all that whatnot that it it was very it has been very difficult I should say still continues to be and that the escalation on inflation has been kind of crazy but you know a couple of things have changed in the last year and it um first of all that the the market for you know selling used vehicles has you know gone back down again where the prices are beginning to lower and inflation is actually beginning to lower as well and so I um so I guess I [19:46] in my experience when I've looked at you know leasing versus you know purchasing it's been more cost effective just to purchase the vehicle vehicles and the equipment I think a part of the challenge that the city seems to have is that we don't have a fleet manager you know someone that's actively managing all of the city's Fleet uh you know from Public Works to parks to the police department and all of that and so I can you know I mean I guess I can understand wanting to lease Vehicles just because then it kind of alleviates the city when you start to get into that position after five years where you start to get more vehicle issues that emerge you know [20:34] and expenses and such and so so I'm kind of skeptical about this you know to be honest but I mean if you're feeling really passionate about going in this approach I guess if you could speak a little bit more about how it is that we're thinking that this is actually a cost saving measure in the end that would be useful thanks take accounts memorable [21:10] Dan Wietecha: yeah yeah um thanks uh councilmember a lot in there I think that the the basic question came down to the immediate question came down to explaining the the cost savings if if there's some additional pieces I can [21:19] answer those as well um these numbers are that I have are from pre-covered so they're not current numbers but the math would work similarly and the point to being pre-covered is it avoids that concern about uh for a few years the value of used vehicles was holding extra high looking at pre-covered that's factored out of this this example um but a a vehicle might list at forty four thousand dollars anybody off the street could go and buy off the lot for forty four thousand dollars under the state contract the city is able to purchase that same vehicle for [22:05] thirty three thousand dollars so about an eleven thousand dollar savings if we drive it for five years put on about 12 000 miles a year that vehicle pre-covered would have a trade-in value of twenty three thousand dollars so about a ten thousand dollar cost over five years two thousand dollars a year where if we instead drove that vehicle into the ground get every last mile out of it which is what we've done with a number of our vehicles you know the ones that are proposed here are the newest ones are 16 years old it winds up just on the cost of the [22:52] vehicle more than two thousand dollars a year so then when you start figuring you're keeping a newer vehicle this has nothing to do with the lease purchase it or lease it I'm talking about just rotating every five years um we're reducing the maintenance on them we've also got safer Vehicles because they're that there's less maintenance concerns but they also have features such as airbags or backup cameras just things like that that you might take more for granted in a newer vehicle we don't have in our older vehicles so that's where that cost savings is is if we drive it into the ground we don't capture any of that reduced cost that we purchase at under the state [23:38] contract by turning around and selling it well it still has value we capitalize on a portion of that that cost difference so that where the savings is it's not the fact that it's leased it's that we're rotating them every five years the difference with leasing it is if we were to go from purchasing say six Vehicles last year or in a typical year to purchasing a dozen well now for those extra six at oh whatever forty thousand dollars a piece we're needing to come up with an extra quarter million dollars cash in order to do that this year and again next year and the [24:23] following year so that's the reason for leasing it is trying to phase in how do we make up that difference going from purchasing six vehicles to acquiring 12 vehicles it's trying to make that more cost effective and and the thought is that over several years we would at least one last vehicle or two less vehicles and offset it with a purchase so at every year we're acquiring 12 but we're shifting that balance how many are purchased how many are leased so that in two years or five years we're entirely purchasing so it's not a question of the lease it's the lease is really trying to the lease isn't what's making it cost [25:09] effective the the cost-effective piece is the five-year rotation that the lease is trying to finance it because it's a lot of cash to come up all at once and get into a new system so what you're saying is in the short term it's less money of an initial upfront cost than purchasing vehicles the lease would be an easier short-term cost to get into it yes okay but so you're estimating um I see that you're estimating what the annual leases are but then I guess what I'm missing is where where was the cost benefit analysis to it so it's just kind [25:54] of it's where and an adult how do you say the anecdotal anecdotal yes about what it is that we're speculating the savings would be I can certainly forward you more detailed numbers if you would like [26:21] Councilmember Jen Fox: okay yeah I guess I'm just not understanding fully how it is um that it it is a cost Savings in the end I mean I am all for having a safer Fleet for staff to be you know driving on a day-to-day basis and all of that but I guess I'm not I'm not fully tracking the financials you know behind it I just don't see that information present here and so I'm not personally going to be supportive of it just because when I've done this kind of analysis in the past I haven't seen those numbers work out in the favor um of you know making the acquisition but um great I'm glad that you're at least thinking outside of the box for how it is you know to approach Fleet Management because it has been [27:06] something of concern and uh and so that's it for now thanks thank you councilman [27:14] Mayor Mary Fasbender: council member Leifeld [27:21] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: thank you honor I think I have a similar question I think so I understand the five-year turnaround that makes sense to me because you turn around you didn't drive the vehicle under the ground you made money you used that money for the next vehicle I get that but I don't see that when you lease the vehicle so that's where I was more concerned about is I get the cost effectiveness of Leasing and then each year you said something about at least one less vehicle but when you're leasing the vehicles you're going to pay that amount you don't sell back your vehicle because you don't own the vehicle right so I guess I'm a little confused on that piece of it but The Upfront cost is [27:52] cheaper I understood you to say because we'd be paying say eleven thousand dollars a year instead of thirty three thousand dollars outright so I can understand that but if you could explain that piece to me about the resale after five years [28:18] Dan Wietecha: at the end of the lease we have purchased the vehicle or purchase it out for for a buck essentially so whatever value that vehicle still has we could use to turn around into the the the next rotation okay so at the end of the lease term whatever three years four years five years I don't know we're looking at a five setting it up as a five year [28:38] because we're trying to get into a five-year rotation [28:44] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: okay but not just I've never leased a car um so if you were to lease the vehic the a pickup truck and it would have cost you thirty three thousand to buy it out right and these are fake numbers right and you lease that out over five years how much are you paying for the vehicle after five years are you paying more than the thirty three thousand that you would have paid for it in the beginning [29:08] Dan Wietecha: yeah the yes because we're leasing it they're making money off of us right that's why council member Fox is absolutely correct saying it's more cost effective purchasing the vehicles on a five-year rotation than leasing them on a five-year rotation the difference is [29:24] how do we start that we need money in order to start rotating them so if we start them on a lease and wean ourselves off of that we can get to where in a few years they're entirely purchased and we're not beholden to the lease or or the extra costs associated with that [29:39] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: so then Dan do we have any numbers that would get us in a ballpark of what we're paying for the vehicle at the end of the lease and I guess the one thing I do know about leases and the reason I never did them was I put on too many miles [29:56] Dan Wietecha: these are these are open leases without a mileage no mileage cap so at the end of each year whatever we don't have to worry about the 12 000 miles that our [30:10] city staff has put on the vehicle we tend to be fairly low miles as it is but but these leases are do not have that limit on them [30:26] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: so one final clarification then so do we have an idea of how much we'd be paying for hypothetical 33 000 vehicle [30:35] Dan Wietecha: the numbers I have are based off of a 60 vehicle Fleet not an individual vehicle I can certainly provide those [30:45] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: I guess that my only question before I could agree to this would be over the course of those five years what are we paying for that vehicle by saving money up front yes we still have to pay that money so that that's my question I guess Dan [30:57] Mayor Mary Fasbender: thank you council member Haus [31:02] Councilmember Angie Haus: yeah I I Echo both council members here that it's hard to see Savings in it I understand to start a five you know if we want to do a five-year turnaround with vehicles that we need to start somewhere but um until I have further knowledge on numbers on this I I struggle to vote on it as well [31:26] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay thank you council members council member Fox [31:30] Councilmember Jen Fox: thank you your honor uh one thing I really like about this plan is that it gets it into a rotation where it's not all happening at once like Dan said so we could take on a vehicle and then take on another vehicle and then take on another and then when we go to replace [31:43] them full out in the next cycle we don't have to spend like you said quarter of a million dollars half a million dollars to do so um so I really like the thought behind it and I'll Echo what council member Fox said I like thinking out of the box to try and get us into this system um I'm curious your honor your perspective of potentially um I hate this tabling it until the next meeting and Dan I would appreciate your comments on that as well just to give my my peers a little bit more number background I personally would support it tonight if we did vote on it but thank you [32:32] Dan Wietecha: Dan just an answer to the tabling of it um these windows tend to be short and some of what we saw last year was they might be a matter of a couple of days this one we do not know what the time frame is it might be a couple of weeks but I would not be surprised if the window for ordering this specific vehicle Dodge pickup truck was closed the next time we meet [33:14] Councilmember Jen Fox: thank you uh or sentiments there and I would like to make a motion to approve this um pre this authorization to order the six pickup trucks for lease as part of the 2024 budget [33:38] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay thank you councilmember Fox council member Pemble you were first [33:46] Councilmember Dave Pemble: I defer [33:48] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: looking for a motion your honor I would like to motion to second that as well to approve [33:57] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay any other discussion now we have first and a second councilmember Pemble [34:00] Councilmember Dave Pemble: councilmember Pemble the question the lights are all out here and we've never leased vehicles personally but in the businesses I've been involved with over the years [33:54] leasing a vehicle was the norm The Only Exception was if the entity had its own maintenance department its own mechanics its supply house all of that on staff part of the organization to do those repairs because when you're purchasing straight out yeah there's a there's warranties but there's a lot of wear and tear things that aren't covered under warranties and when you're looking at a leasing program especially when you're talking about pickups that [34:39] probably get a lot of use and some of that probably pretty heavy duty use in some situations the you know the repair I mean we've got a squad car sitting out at the other end of town that's been sitting there for over a week because it's waiting for parts and you know those things come into play and in this situation my feeling is that we need to proceed with the lease presentation as it was presented tonight knowing that those windows when the car manufacturers open those things up are usually a week 10 days maybe at best [35:24] and businesses need you know government needs to act accordingly so I would support this motion thank you [35:40] Mayor Mary Fasbender: thank you councilmember Pemble. Dave, Dan I have a question [35:50] [35:50] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: Dan I have a question when it is leased do they take care of all of maintenance and what is the do you know that structure of it [36:03] Dan Wietecha: the basic lease would not include any sort of Maintenance package if we wanted to we could upgrade additional and have oil changes instead of brakes and tires included in that but you're going to pay something additional [36:11] for that this this is this is just looking at getting the vehicle and we would still need to maintain a newer lower mile vehicle certainly not the maintenance we see on some Vehicles now but it those maintenance expenses would be born if if there was an interest I would tend to steer away from it but if there was an interest there certainly could be an option for what is 100 bucks a month to include Tires and Brakes and other stuff [36:40] Mayor Mary Fasbender: okay thank you that's my reliable [36:44] Councilmember Lisa Leifeld: thank you so listening to my fellow council members and I've always said in the past that I very seldom do I want to go against what [36:57] staff recommends because this is your job right I'm elected by you know the community to come and listen and help and try to make the best decisions so that being said I I will support this I um don't like to use the word assume but I know I I know for a fact that staff has put the time and um due diligence into this and if staff believes it to be the best recommendation I would be in support of that [37:25] Mayor Mary Fasbender: there's emotion and oh council member Haus [37:28] Councilmember Angie Haus: thank you your honor um I agree with councilmember Leifeld um I do I will support this but I would like to see what the numbers actually are on a cost benefit analysis on this uh Just for future and then also seeing [37:44] what maintenance would look like if what that price range would be to add on maintenance through them Just for future so thank you [38:00] Mayor Mary Fasbender: thank you council member Haus there is a motion and a second any additional discussion all those in favor of the Motion state by saying aye aye opposed to that Motion state by saying nay thank you in that motion prevails Council any announcements councilmember Fox [38:25] Councilmember Jen Fox: I think your honor I I just wanted to give the council a little update about uh today was uh League of Minnesota cities improving Service delivery policy committee meeting and so we had uh two [38:30] particular subject matters that we had guest speakers on and the first was on PFAS regulation in water and wastewater and so I just wanted to give a quick update that the two folks that were present are State leaders when it comes to these issues and the first was the Sandeep Burman he's the drinking water protection manager for the Minnesota Department of Health and the other was Adana verbert vanderbosch who was the assistant commissioner with Minnesota Pollution Control agency and so um what was particularly of Interest was what Mr Berman had to say about drinking water as we all know we're facing what was it a 69 million dollar price take now for [39:16] the three water treatment plants that for to deal with the PFAS situation and so I just wanted it to tell you what he had said and it was interesting he had said that when they looked at all of the state municipalities municipal water sources that they had been testing which was you know the vast majority they said that they had almost tested 900 and there was only like 49 that they haven't tested yet and so they believe that the new you know federal and state regulations that are coming forward with PFAS that they only affect less than one percent of the population in our state and so unfortunately we're in that you [40:03] know one percent of you know I should say cities that are being affected by this issue and then he showed a dashboard of where all of those cities are and so I haven't had a chance yet to look but it's supposed to be uh a map you know like a dashboard map that you can look at and it'll show all of the cities that are you know at risk and such so he went on to say that they've identified then all of the municipal water sources that are going to be in trouble like we are when they make the changes when the federal and the state government makes the changes with the lowering of the acceptable standard and that he has um that you know him and his staff have [40:48] gone ahead and that they've notified all of those cities in which I know that Dana said that in the past that they you know received the notice from the Department of Health and so he went on to say that they realized that there's not nearly enough Aid that they know that there's not enough funding that will cover you know for those cities that that have you know this issue where you're not going to be in compliance but then he also went on to say that once the Federal rules and you know in the state you know gets in alignment with those standards that there's only going to be two years maybe three years for all of those cities to [41:36] be in compliance with the new standards so there might only be a two-year window to to come into compliance and so I thought that it was really interesting that they real they recognized there wasn't enough fun enough funds but it's kind of like well too bad so sad figure it out and so I had asked that if if they would provide you know to us all of the names of the cities that are in the same boat as we are so that we can work together collaboratively in with the state and figuring out funding sources that might be available uh Jennifer Levitt who is [42:22] the city administrator for the city of Cottage Grove was also present and she agreed that we should be working together as cities you know to lobby for as you know as many resources as we possibly can since there's such a few number of our cities that are in the same boat and so I'm gonna follow up on that and you know obviously pull our city staff and the mayor into it but I I really believe that we should be working together to try to figure this out with the state and leverage as much funding as we possibly can if there's just a handful of us that are in this that are in the same position and so I'll once I find that um that dashboard map of the [43:08] state I'll share that with you all I'll send that to you because it was really quite surprising and then the second group of discussions that we had were on adult cannabis use and it was actually staff that are in the process of pulling together the office of cannabis which is obviously a new office that's being pulled together and what was interesting about that was um it's going to be starting this fall through 2024 they're going to be trying to you know Draft rules and regulations and it sounds like there's quite the gamut of policy and procedures that need to be figured out for regulating the [43:55] Cannabis industry and so what we acknowledged was that there was a gap between what Municipal governments are you know have currently as ordinances and that there's like a six-month Gap from when our our moratoriums expire and when the state regulations kick in that there's a gap there and so um they're they're they were glad you know to hear that you know as an issue and they want to work with us and so if we have any other um issues that we're concerned about they're asking for us to voice that and I know that our own attorney Corey land had lots of concerns and so I had um Coryell forward you that information [44:41] about the contacts because they want to hear from our staff attorneys as to what their thoughts are in in that and I think you know now is the time to speak up uh one point of interest that they did say that that's on their short list of things to do is create sample ordinances for our cities to be able to follow to make our lives a little bit easier it felt like drinking from a fire hydrant listening to all of the pieces of Regulation that they have to put into place around this industry and so I think we're going to be in for a whirlwind of information about enforcement and regular at the local level what's going to be allowable so anyhow I just wanted to give you a little update on that thank you councilmember [45:28] Mayor Mary Fasbender: all right I have a few announcements summer rec programs at Levy Park Tuesday August 22nd performance in the park Tui Wilson comic stunt juggler sponsored by smeed manufacturer Thursday August 24th music in the park with Jeff Dayton band which is a variety of Music supported by Ruth and George Doffing charitable fund Thursday August 31st music in the park with Jonah and the whales pop rock and country supported by Ruth and George Doffing charitable fund the wreck art and police will be at Lions Park on Wednesday August 23rd featuring Choice art DJ and contests recommended for elementary and [46:15] middle schoolers supported by SC toys Country Financial Hastings Lions Club Hastings family service Community Ed and Hastings Prescott Arts Council support area makers and artesians at the Makers Market on Thursday August 31st Thursday August 31st the Devin J nording foundation will hold International overdose Awareness Day city offices will be closed Monday September 4th an observance of Labor Day happy birthday to council member Fox the very last day of this month Monday August 28th 7 PM Planning Commission Tuesday September 5th 5 30 [47:04] Council we have a City Council budget workshop and 7 PM council meeting I would accept a motion to adjourn councilmember Pemble and councilmember Fox all those in favor of the Motion state by saying aye aye opposed to that Motion state by saying nay and that motion prevails we are adjourned