>>COUN. BENTON: GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. THE 18th MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING, WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN ATTENDING VIA ZOOM. WE WILL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH IN COUNCILOR LEWIS AND SPANISH BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. [ IN [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: CIVIC PLAZA PARK ING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU CAN OBTAIN ONE AT THE COUNCIL STAFF NEAR THE ENTRANCE. WE HAVE THE ABILITY FOR EVERYONE TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON BUT ALSO ON LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV COMCAST CHANNEL 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOU TUBE, AND ZOOM. LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED BY SMART PHONES AND TABLETS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED. THE VIDEO RECORDING THIS MEETING AND PAST MEETING WILLRY MAIN ON THE WEBSITE. STAFF IS VISIBLE TO HELP YOU IF YOU NEED HELP VIEWING THOSE PAST MEETINGS IF YOU CALL DURING WORK HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 768-3100. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7:30 THIS EVENING, IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM IN THE CHAMBERS, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDING TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL GO A LOT SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. I KNOW AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, BEING BEHIND YOUR CAUSE AND ALL THAT. IF WE ALLOW APPLAUSE AFTER EVERY SPEAKER OR EVERY STATEMENT OR WHATEVER, IT'S REALLY GOING TO DRAG OUT THE MEETING FOR EVERYBODY. THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PLEASE COMPLY WITH THAT. WE'LL MOVE ON. IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ONE WARNING WILL BE PROVIDED. AND CONTINUED DISRUPTION THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. PROCLAMATIONS, AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS. STARTING WITH ON AFFORDABLE HOME OTHER THANSHIP TO COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE. SENIOR DIRECTOR OF HOME WISE AND KELLY ODONNEL. >> GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M KELLY. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH MY COLLEAGUE. WE'RE BOTH WITH HOME WISE. I'M AN ECONOMIST AND I HELD MANY DIFFERENT ROLES IN AND AROUND GOVERNMENT IN NEW MEXICO OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS. MOST RECENTLY I JOINED HOME WISE ABOUT A YEAR AGO. WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIES FOR INCREASING THE SUPPLY AND ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IN THE CONTEXT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE ROLE THAT HOUSING AND THE PR PROXIMITY OF HOUSING PLAYS IN CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE. WE'VE DONE SOME INTERESTING RESEARCH AND WE'VE ADAPTED THAT RESEARCH TO THE ALBUQUERQUE SITUATION WHICH IS FROM SANTA FE. PLEASE PUT THE FIRST SLIDE. THERE IT IS. I SEE IT. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE OBJECTIVE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS FOUR-PART. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT THE ROLE OF HOME OTHER THANSHIP IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTINUUM. OWNING A HOME IS NOT THOUGHT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT IT IS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLE RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PLAYS IN CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE. WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESSES MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DIFFICULT AND HOUSING THAT IS CLIMATE RESPONSIVE. AND THE IMPEDIMENTS THAT ZONING CREATES FOR CLIMATE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR CLIMATE RESPONSIVE DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT IN ALBUQUERQUE. NEXT SLIDE. HOME OTHER THAN -- OWNERSHIP IS NOT PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPECTRUM. THEY THINK ABOUT RENTALS. HOWEVER, IN FACT, HOMEOWNERSHIP IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPECTRUM. IT'S OFTEN MORE AFFORDABLE THAN RENT. RENT INCREASES MUCH FAST R THAN THE COST OF OWNING BECAUSE THEY INCREASE WITH INFLATION. WHEREAS, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HOMEOWNERSHIP IS CLOSE TO FIXED. AND HOME OTHER THANSHIP PROVIDES A SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM IN THAT THE COST ASSOCIATED ARE RELATIVELY FIXED FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS IF YOU A FIXED RATE MORTGAGE. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT AVERAGE RENT AND AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND SANTA FE AND ELSEWHERE IN NEW MEXICO, WHAT WE FOUND IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE IN RENT THAN THEY WOULD BE PAYING FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOME AND A LARGER HOME. WHY, WHY THIS IS CASE? THERE ARE A FEW REASONS. NUMBER ONE, HOME OTHER THANSHIP -- OWNERSHIP IS POORLY UNDERSTOOD. WE THINK OF IT AS A PRIVILEGE FOR PEOPLE THAT OBTAINED A CERTAIN DEGREE OF ECONOMIC SUBALITY. STUKT IN FACT, IT CAN BE THE SOURCE OF ECONOMIC STABILITY FOR A HOUSEHOLD. THE OTHER REASONS IS THAT HOMEOWNERSHIP IS NOT CONSIDERED IS HAVING TO DO WITH HOW WE REGARD PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME ENTIRELY ON THEIR OWN. ALTHOUGH THE ONE-TIME COST WITH FACILITATING HOMEOWNERSHIP IF IT'S GRANT ASSISTANCE, THOSE ARE RELATIVELY LOW AND ONE-TIME AND PUT A FAMILY IN A HOUSEHOLD FOR 30 YEARS -- AND RENTAL OFTEN COST MORE THAN SUPPORTING A HOUSE RENTAL FOR TEN YEARS, OR FIVE YEARS OR EVEN THREE. IT IS NOT OFTEN CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH HOW WE REGARD ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE. AND THE DESIRE THAT GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITIES OFTEN HAVE TO TIGHTLY CONTROL HOW PEOPLE UTILIZE ASSISTANCES PROVIDED BY THE GOVERNMENT. THERE'S A DEGREE OF PATERNALISM INHERENT TO THE IGNORING OF THE ROLE OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND OF COURSE IT'S MORE THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO OWN A HOME. WE DON'T WANT TO IGNORE TOWN HOMES AND CONDOES. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE REALLY SHOWS YOU A LITTLE BIT OF ANALYSIS THAT WE DID AT HOME WISE ON THE COST BURDEN. WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE OF INCOME THAT HAS TO BE DEVOTED TO HOUSING. WE SAY THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO SPEND MORE THAN 30% ON INCOME WE CALL THEM COST BURDENS. AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO SPEND 50% ARE SEVERELY COST BURDENED. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GRAPHS, WHAT WE DID IS LOOKT AT REPRESENTATIVE CITIES IN NEW MEXICO. ALBUQUERQUE, LAS CRUCES, SANTA FE. AND WE LOOKED AT PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF INCOME. WE TRIED TO CONTROL A LITTLE BIT FOR INCOME. WHAT YOU FIND IS THAT RENTERS HAVE HIGHER COST BURDEN THAN OWNERS REGARDLESS OF THE CITY AREA AND REGARDLESS OF INCOME STATUS. WE KNOW THAT RENTING IS VERY EXTENSIVE. WE'VE DONE ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE CURRENTLY RENTING HERE IN NEW MEXICO COULD AFFORD TO OWN IF THEY HAD A DOWN PAYMENT. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF WHY IT MAKES SENSE FROM FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DARK PURPLE LINE IS RENT. THIS IS A 30-YEAR TIME HORIZON. RENT IS FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY RISES. IT RISES WITH INFLATION. WHEREAS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH A 30-YEAR FIXED RATE MORTGAGE STAYS RELATIVELY FLAT. THERE'S SOME COST IMPACTED BY INFLATION AND HOMEOWNER COST. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STABLE HOUSING PAYMENT WITH A ONE TIME INFUSION OF DOWN PAYMENT. THE ONE THING I FAIL TO MENTION IS ANOTHER IT'S SO IMPORTANT IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONTINUUM IS BECAUSE EVERY TIME A QUALIFIED RENTER MOVES INTO THEIR OWN HOME THEY FREE UP AN AFFORDABLE UNIT FOR ANOTHER RENTAL HOUSING. THESE ARE ALL CONNECTED. THE MORE PEOPLE YOU GET INTO SUSTAINABLE OTHER THANSHIP THE MORE YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. AND THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE SAME PHENOMENA. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY HOUSING COST AS PERCENTAGE OF INCOME. AS YOU CAN SEE OVER 30 YEARS WITH A FIXED RATE MORTGAGE YOU HOUSING COST GOES DOWN. I THINK MOST PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO THAT. I CERTAINLY CAN. WHEREAS, AS A RENTER, EVEN AS INCOME GROWS OVER TIME, TYPICAL, HOUSING COST AS A PERCENTAGE OF INCOME CONTINUE TO INCREASE. THE LONG-TERM AND THE SHORT-TERM FINANCIAL BENEFITS OF AFFORDABLE HOME OTHER THANSHIP ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. THIS PICTURE IS REALLY JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING AT HOME WISE. THIS IS THE MAP OF THE UNITED STATES THAT LOOKS AT THE HOMEOWNERSHIP GAP BY RACE. YOU CAN USE THIS MAP, WHICH IS ON THE WEBSITE, TO CLICK ON YOUR COMMUNITY AND LOOK AT HOW THE HOMEOWNERSHIP RATE FOR RACIAL MINORITIES DIFFER FROM THAT OF HISPANIC PEOPLE. WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT THERE IS A GAP. AND IN ADDITION TO THIS MAP YOU CAN GENERATE REPORTS WHICH SHOW FOR ANY OF THE AREAS IDENTIFIED HOW MANY RENTERS IN THAT AREA COULD CONCEIVABLY AFFORD TO OWN A HOME AND HOW THAT DIFFERS BY RACE. IT'S AN IMPERFECT MECHANISM. IT'S VERY COMPELLING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GAP AND HOW MUCH EASIER IT WOULD BE TO CLOSE THAT GAP ONE WE SOMETIMES ASSUME. NEXT SLIDE. SANTA FE IS NOT ALBUQUERQUE. AND ALBUQUERQUE IS NOT SANTA FE. WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THE ANALYSIS WE DID FOR SANTA FE WHICH REALLY LOOKED AT THE ONE THIRD OF PEOPLE WHO WORK IN SANTA FE THAT LIVE OUTSIDE OF SANTA FE COUNTY AND THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT THAT ISN'T APPLICABLE TO ALBUQUERQUE. ALBUQUERQUE IS CONTAINED WITHIN BERNALILLO COUNTY. THEY'RE NOT COMMUTING FROM AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS AWAY TO GET TO WORK IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS AND ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALBUQUERQUE AND SANTA FE IS THAT SANTA FE IS REALLY STRUGGLING WITH A LACK OF DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT. IN ALBUQUERQUE, THERE IS A LACK OF DEVELOPMENT BUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES ARE GETTING FURTHER. SUCH THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO OWN A HOME HAVE TO TO GO THE FAR WEST SIDE IN ORDER TO OWN. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THEY ARE TRADING OFF TRANSPORTATION COST, TIME WITH FAMILIES, ALL OF THE VARIOUS DOWNSIDES, THEY'RE ABSORBING IT AS ADDITIONAL COST. WHAT APPEARS TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE WEST SIDE IS UNAFFORDABLE ONCE YOU FACTOR IN THE COST TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO COMMUTE, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THE OVERALL ENVIRONMENT AND TO THE REST OF US WHO ARE GOING TO BE STRUGGLING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS MOST RECENTLY ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WE DID A WEBINAR ON THE ROLE OF RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT CONTRIBUTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE. THAT WEBINAR WHICH INCLUDED COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS ON OUR WEBSITE. IT'S THE RESEARCH AND POLICY COMPONENT OF HOME WISE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE ALBUQUERQUE-SANTA FE DISTINCTION. THE REAL DISTINCTION IS THAT ALBUQUERQUE IS MORE OPEN TO DEVELOPMENT THAN SANTA FE. IT HAS -- REVERTED, CONCEDED TO SPRAWL AS A WAY TO DEVELOP HOUSING. AND THAT IS A CHOICE. MAYBE A CHOICE MADE BY DEFAULT. BUT A CHOICE IN FACT. THE NEXT SLIDE WILL BE PRESENTED BY JOHANNA, SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. >>-- AND WE BELIEVE THAT RESPONSIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES COMMUNITY INPUT. WE'VE CRAFTED A STAEJ -- STRATEGY THAT PROVIDES DIRECTION FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS RENOVATING OR BUILDING NEW AS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY. WE CRAFTED THIS APPROACH WORKING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. I THINK I'D SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT TO GIVE SOME COLOR TO HOW THE CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN. WE CONDUCTED A NEIGHBORHOOD SURVEY IN BARELAS LED BY A COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD THAT HELPED SELECT THE QUESTIONS AND INTERPRET THE ANSWERS AND WORKED WITH DAVE SANCHEZ AT UNM AND SURVEYING 160 HOUSEHOLDS. WE LEARNED IN THAT SURVEY THERE WAS A STRONG NEED FOR JOB-TRAINING AND EARLY CHILD CARE. AND SET OUT TO FIND TENANT WHOSE COULD RENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES TO BRING USES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALSO WORKED TO SECURE THE NECESSARY SUBSIDIES TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD RENT FROM US. A PROJECT THAT SHOWS THIS RESPONSIVE APPROACH IS THE CHILDREN ACADEMY WHICH IS AN EXPANSION OF BILINGUAL WOMAN-OWNED FACILITY TO A SPACE THAT WILL OPEN 60 SEATS IN THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHOE FOOD INSTITUTE TO CREATE THE CENTRAL KITCHEN WHICH WILL FOSTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY SUPPORTING 20-PLUS FOOD BUSINESSES PER YEAR. SO, ALTHOUGH BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS WERE GROUNDED IN DATA FROM A LARGE SAMPLE OF RSIDENTS WE WERE SURPRISED TO LEARN THEY REJECTED OUR PROJECTS. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THIS EXPERIENCE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF A MORE COMMON OCCURRENCE WHICH IS THERE CAN ME A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT MEMBERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MAY OPPOSE AND WHAT BROADER COMMUNITY RESIDENTS WHO MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH TIME OR CAPACITY DO WANT. THIS POINTS TO A LARGER ISSUE SLOWING DOWN THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT MAKE THE OVERALL COST OF LIVING LOWER BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO WORK, LIFE, SCHOOL, SOCIAL ACTIVITIES. THIS KIND OF PROXIMITY REQUIRES HIGHER DENSITY AND A STRONGER COMMITMENT TO FORDABLE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHICH IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OPPOSE. THIS ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES GETTING IN THE WAY OF CLIMATE RESPONSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. I FORGOT MY SLIDES. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE DATA ON THE SURVEY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS A LITTLE MAP SHOWING THAT OUR HEADQUARTERS AND OUR TWO COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, THE ACCESSIBLE CHILD CARE CENTER AND THE INCUBATOR. IT WILL INCLUDE PRODUCTION SPACE AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE RETAIL SPACE. AND WE LOVE THIS APPROACH BECAUSE IT'S REALLY CREATING INCLUSIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. NEXT SLIDE. PICTURE OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. LAST SLIDE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ALBUQUERQUE HAS A LOT TO BUILD OFF OF. THIS IS A NATIONAL CONVERSATION. THIS IS A NATIONAL CHALLENGE. CITIES, SOME OF THEM, HAVE BEEN WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND ALBUQUERQUE HAS A LOT TO BUILD OFF OF. I THINK MUCH MORE CAN BE DONE. AS THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION NOTES, ANTIQUATED ZONING LAWS ARE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES AND CRIPPING HOUSING CHOICES BY LIMITING OPPORTUNITIEDS, RISING THE COST OF HOUSING AND UNFAIRLY FAVORING LOW DENSITY HOUSING. IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE WORSENING OF CLIMATE CRISIS. FIXING THIS BRIDGES THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP. WE SEE A FEW WAYS THE CITY CAN ACT NOW. THE FIRST IS THAT WE REALLY BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY RESPONSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO FIND WAYS TO INGABLING GAUGE RATHER THAN ENGAGE ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS THAT'S OFTEN SLOWS MIXED USE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. WE BELIEVE COMMUNITY VOICE IS CRITICAL TO SHAPING VITTAE BUT OFTEN THE VOICEERIZE HEARD OVER ANOTHER LOW-HANG FRUIT IS REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND PARTICULARLY ON TRANSIT CORRIDORS. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD HOUSING IN ASSOCIATION WITH TRANSIT THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO EVEN WITHOUT A CAR. WE ALSO WOULD ADVOCATE FOR REMOVING ANY AMBIGUITY FROM RULES THAT ALLOY FOR CARRY -- INTERPRETED WHERE THERE'S ROOM TO INCREASE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THESE ARE UNNECESSARY DELAYS THAT SLOW DOWN PROJECTS AND BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ACCESSIBLE CHILD CARE OR MUCH-NEEDED PROJECTS TO THE CITY. AND A FINAL STEP WOULD BE TO RELEASE CITY OWNED LOT FOR DEVELOPMENT, SELL THEM OR WHATEVER THE CITY'S PRIORITY IS AND MAKE SURE THOSE PROJECTS DEVELOPED CREATE NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS FROM [ INAUDIBLE ]. SUPPORTED PROJECT AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. KRISTEN CHAVEZ SMITH AND PRESENTATION FROM VELMA FROM OUTREACH PROJECT MANAGER. >> WE CAN -- CAN YOU HEAR ME? PERFECT. WE CAN PUT UP THE FIRST SLIDE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DELMA, I'M THE BONG ON OUT REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT. ALSO WITH ME TODAY IS KRISTEN CHAVEZ SMITH. COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION MANAGER WITH THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WILL BE SHARING ABOUT THE SUMMER JOBS INITIATIVE. PLEASE LET ME TELL YOU A BIT ABOUT BANK ON BURQUE. NEXT SLIDE. LAUNCHES IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR IT IS AN ECONOMIC INCLUSION INITIATIVE FOR CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS TO SAFE AND AFFORDABLE CHECKING ACCOUNTS AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE CITY FOR FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT FUND PROVIDED FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT THE BANK ON INITIATIVE. ENSURING THAT LOW COST, NO OVERDRAFT, THAT'S RIGHT, NO SURPRISE FEE ACCOUNTS ARE AN OPTION FOR UNBANKED AND UNDERSERVED INDIVIDUALS. ACCESS TO SAFE AND AFFORDABLE ANN ACCOUNTS IS NOT JUST HAPPENING IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S PART OF A NATIONAL NETWORK AND IS JOINED WITH ALMOST 100 OTHER COALITIONS TAKING PART IN THIS. YOU MAY BE WONDERING DO WE NEED TO HAVE A BANK ON INITIATIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE? I'M GOING TO SHARE A FEW REASONS FOR WHY WE DO. NEXT SLIDE. THE FIRST ONE IS EVIDENT ON THIS CHART FROM PROSPERITY NOW. THE BLUNE LINE AT THE BOTTOM INDICATES -- AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS TRENDING DOWNWARD. IT MEANS MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING BANKED NATIONALLY. THE ORANGE LINE AT THE TOP OF THE CHART INDICATES HOW UNBANKED HOUSEHOLDS ARE TRENDING IN ALBUQUERQUE. NEXT SLIDE. ADDITIONALLY, OVERDRAFT FEES ARE SOMETHING MANY OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS. AND HOW THESE FEES IMPACT VULNERABLE HOUSEHOLDS IS SIGNIFICANT. 43% VULNERABLE HOUSEHOLDS REPORT HAVING OVERDRAFTED WITH 9.6 OVERDRAFTS ON AVERAGE. WHICH ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE CONSUMER PROTECTION BUREAU SAYS CAN PRICE PEOPLE OUT OF BANKING. PEOPLE WHO PAY MORE THAN TEN OVERDRAFT FEES PER YEAR END UP PAYING NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF ALL OVERDRAFT FEES. ON AVERAGE PAY $380 IN FEES DURING THE YEAR. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FROM THOSE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD IT. THAT'S ENOUGH SAD NEWS. LET'S GO BACK TO THE BANK ON ACCOUNTS AND WHAT THEY OFFER. NEXT SLIDE. BANK ON CERTIFIED ACCOUNTS ARE SAFE FOR CONSUMERS. GOOD NEWS IS THESE ACCOUNTS ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CAN BE FOUND IN OTHER PARTS OF NEW MEXICO. ALTHOUGH THESE ACCOUNTS ARE GEARED TOWARD TO LOW TO MODERATE INCONDUCT INDIVIDUALS THERE'S NO INCOME REQUIREMENT. THEY'RE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS, IDENTIFICATION IS REQUIRED BY THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. WHICH LEADSES ME TO THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION PARTNERS. NEXT SLIDE. OUR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION PARTNERS ARE BANK OF AMERICA, CHASE, FIRST CONVENIENCE BANK, NUSENDA, RIO GRANDE, U.S. BANK, U.S. EAGLE AND WELLS FARGO. WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF EACH AND EVERY FINANCIAL INITUTION PARTNER PART OF THE COALITION. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING OTHER FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS JOIN US AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. THE PROJECTS LIKE THIS CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT SUPPORT FOR SHARING INFORMATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT TRULY TAKES A VILLAGE. A SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS PROVIDED SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. THE BROCHURE WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF IS AVAILABLE AND ON THE WEBSITE. THEY'RE PROVIDED AT PRESENTATIONS OR BY REQUEST. ALSO AVAILABLE IS THE LIST OF FINANCIAL INITUTION PARTNERS. OUR WEBSITE ALSO ROLLED OUT WHEN WE LAUNCHED LAST YEAR. OUR WEBSITE PAGES ARE DESIGNED TO BE PHONE AND PRINTER FRIENDLY. KEEP IN MIND THE INFORMATION ON ALL OF THE PAGES CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO OTHER LANGUAGES. ALSO FEATURED IS A HOW-TO VIDEO TO NAVIGATE THE WEBSITE WHICH IS ALSO PROVIDED BY OUR CITY'S HR DEPARTMENT FOR NEW EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT 736 NEW CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE SEEN A PRESENTATION OR VIEWED THE VIDEO DURING THEIR ORIENTATION. NEXT SLIDE. THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION RECENTLY STARTED SHARING ON BANK ON BURQUE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE APPRECIATE THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND SHARING FINANCIAL TIPS AND INFORMATION AND HOW TO FIND BANK ON ACCOUNTS AS WELL. AS I SAID, IT TAKES A VILLAGE. CONTINUING WITH GREAT PARTNERSHIP FOR MOVING ECONOMIC INCLUSION FORWARD, CHRISTEN WILL SHARE ABOUT OUR WORK SO FAR. >> THANK YOU. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND JUST ONE MORE. I OVERSEE ONE ABQ YOUTH CONNECT. IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2018 SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT SERVE YOUTH AND FAMILIES TO BETTER COMMUNICATE, LEVERAGE RESOURCES AND START NEW PROJECTS. IT STARTED WITH WHAT WE KALE THE BIG THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT SERVE YOUTH, PARKS AND RECREATION, FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND ARTS CAN CULTURE. WE LEARNED THAT SO MANY DEPARTMENTS PLAY A ROLE IN SERVING YOUTH AND FAMILIES. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NICE LITTLE FLOUR THESE ARE THE ACCESS PARTICIPANTS OF YOUTH CONNECT. WE MEET BIWEEKLY TO COME UP WITH ALL SORTS OF NEW PROJECTS LIKE THE JOB FAIR, LIKE THE SUMMER REPORT THAT WILL BE OUT LATER THIS WEEK AS WELL AS NEW AND EXCITING PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE. ONE OF THE NEW EXCITING PROGRAMS IS THE SUMMER JOBS CONNECT BRAND. WE APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT ABOUT A YEAR AGO. AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH BANK ON BRBG URQUE. IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE EMPLOYEES ABOUT 1200 YOUTH EMPLOYEES. DURING THE SCHOOL YOUR IT'S ABOUT 600. AND AS YOUNG PEOPLE COME ON, IT'S USUALLY OR SOMETIMES THEIR FIRST JOB. THEY'RE COMING INTO THESE JOBS UNBANKED OR USING THEIR PARENTS BANK ACCOUNT. THIS GRANT WILL CREATE YOUTH BANK ACCOUNTS THAT DO NOT NEED AN ADULT SIGNATURE TO CREATE THEM. THEY'LL BE USED FOR DIRECT DEPAUSED IT WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THERE WILL BE A ZERO DOLLAR MINIMUM TO OPEN THE ACCOUNT. AS I SAID, NO ADULT CO-SIGNER IS NECESSARY. THEY'LL ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO A DEBIT CARD. NOT JUST A PAY CARD TO GO TO THE ATM. AND WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE FINANCIAL LITERACY TRAINING FOR ALL CITY YOUTH EMPLOYEES AS PART OF THE BRAND. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET THIS GOING. WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH IN THE SPRING. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN TAKE THOSE NOW. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. DELMA, I HAVE A QUESTION. EVERY BANK HAS OVERDRAFTS THAT I'VE DEALT WITH. YOU'RE TALKING 43% HAPPEN PER YEAR. 9.6 OVERDRAFTS A FAMILY MIGHT HAVE. OR $380 AVERAGE. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THE CITY IS FUNDING THAT OVERDRAFT PROTECTION FOR PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME TROUBLE WITH THAT. >> LET ME EXPLAIN HOW THE ACCOUNTS WORK. BASICALLY, IT'S A CHECKLIST CHECKING ACCOUNT. YOU HAVE A DEBIT CHARD, WHICH IS GREAT. WHEN YOU GO AND RUN YOUR CARD THROUGH AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDS IT DECLINES THE CARD. I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS, BETTER TO HAVE A MOMENT OF EMBARRASS MANAGEMENT THAN TO HAVE A $35 FEE GET THROWN ON TOP. USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS IS IT CASCADES. I TELL PEOPLE YOU GO TO MCDONALDS AND YOU RUN IT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY. YOU SO GET CASCADING FEES. THAT'S HOW THE CARD WORKS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. BASICALLY, THEY JUST RUN THE CARD, IF THERE'S NO MONEY THAT ACTUALLY ACTS AS AN OVERDRAFT PROTECTION. >> OVERDRAFT PROTECTION MEANS IT WILL PULL FROM THEIR SIEVE -- SAVINGS. A LOT OF FOLKS OR PEOPLE ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. I THINK WE'RE SEEING FOLKS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE ACCOUNTS. IF THAT SAFETY PROTECTION IS NOT IN PLACE IT'S GOT DECLINE THE CARD. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY'LL TAKE IT OUT OF THE SAVINGS. WHAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE SAVINGS? >> IT DECLINES THE CARD. SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH FOLKS THAT DON'T HAVE THIS CARD IS THEY GET $35 PLUS WHAT THEY SAY THEY SPENT $8. I HAVE AN ARTICLE THAT IS CALLED THE $36 HAMBURGER. WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SHARED A STORY WHERE SHE WAS GETTING A DOLLAR HAMBURGER. IT WAS ACTUALLY COSTING HER$36 EVERY TIME BECAUSE SHE WAS GETTING CHARGED THAT FEE. IF SHE HAD THAT ACCOUNT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DECLINED AND KNOWN SHE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO CHECK HER ACCOUNT. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. ONE MORE QUESTION. ARE YOU ALONG WITH THIS CARD COUNSELING PEOPLE ON BUDGETS AND CONTROL OF SPENDING THAT WOULD PEOPLE ALL OF THIS FROM HAPPENING? IS THERE ANY EDUCATION INVOLVED WITH THIS? >> WE HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF THIS WHICH WE CALL OUR PROGRAM INTIGATION. WE HAVE SEVERAL WE'RE PILOTING. WE'RE LOOKING FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE FINANCIAL EDUCATION BECAUSE THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE TO BE TALKING ABOUT THESE ACCOUNTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH FINANCIAL EDUCATION. WE'RE BEING VERY DELIBERATE IN THE PARTNERSHIP WE'RE SEEKING. WE'RE NOT DOING EDUCATION OURSELF, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE THAT ARE PROVIDING THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION. WE'RE DOING THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION, IT'S IN THE SUMMER JOBS CONNECT PROJECT. THAT ONE WE'LL DO CURRICULUM. >>COUN. JONES: I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE. >> WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. ANY FINANCIAL EDUCATION PARTNERS OUT THERE, THEY SEE IT RIGHT AWAY AND THEY'RE LIKE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ACCOUNTS DURING THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS SO MUCH. WE HAVE NO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION TONIGHT. WE ARE GOING TO GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO MOVE THAT WE HEAR M-22-5 AT THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. IS THAT A CHANGE TO THE RULES FOR -- NO ISSUE. JUST A STRAIGHT VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU CAN MOVE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU WISH OR BE DONE BY A VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE A VOTE? >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU AGREE TO IT, OTHERWISE, I'D TLIEK -- LIKE TO MOVE A VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL MOVE M-22-5 TO THIS TIME ON THE AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS TO MOVE UP M-22-5 ON THE AGENDA. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR -- WE HAVE TO GO TO -- PAUSE WE HAVE A COUNCILOR CALLING BY ZOOM WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE ON TO MOVE UP, I SHOULD SAY, TO -- EXCUSE ME. NOT M-7. WE'RE ON M-5. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS M-5 URGING STATE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. THERE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I BELIEVE THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED TO SPEAK. WE WILL MOVE DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST TO CLARIFY MANY OF THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ALSO SIGNED UP GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU ARE SPEAKING ON THIS SUBJECT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DUPLICATE THE COMMENT. SAY YOUR PIECE HERE. IT WILL NOT ME DISCUSSED UNDER GENERAL PUBLIC. WE'LL GET STARTED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MORGAN HOBSON. FOLLOWED BY CAMMEDON. >> HELLO, I AM A COUNCILOR AND ALSO A ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. I'M A TENANT IN DISTRICT TWO. I READ THAT YOU'RE AN ENDORSER OF MENTAL HEALTH AND HOUSING. I KNOW YOU'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE MEMORIAL. IT WILL WELL PROVEN THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS CONTINGE ONTO ON ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S PROVEN THAT HOUSING IS INSECURITY IS A TOP FACTOR IN KEEPING FAMILIES TOGETHER. WE KNOW LACK OF ACCESS IS PROPORTIONATELY -- PEOPLE WHICH MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. VOTING YES ON MEMORIAL IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES. VOTING YES SHOWS YOU CARE ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHT FOR THE MANY, THE LOCAL ALBUQUERQUE WORKING FAMILIES WHO BUILD AND CLEAN OUR CITIES, TEACH OUR KIDS AND OFFER MEDICAL CARE. INSTEAD OF A FEW RICH LANDLORDS THAT OWN HOUSING TO TURN A PROFIT. WE HAVE SPENT TWO WEEKS IN THE HEAT AND RAIN PUTTING OVER 30,000 DOOR HANGERS, AND DOZEN PEOPLE OF CONTACTS US THAT HUNDREDS ARE BEING IMPACTED BY RATE HIKES REPRESENTING A MAJORITY IN VOTING YES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE RENT CONTROL IF WE NEED IT REPRESENT US PLEASE. VOTE YES IF FOR DEMOCRACY AND MENTAL HEALTH COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: AS I SAID BEFORE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW APPLAUSE TONIGHT. WE'LL BE HERE UNTIL THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING IF WE APPLAUD AFTER EVERY SPEAKER. DO NOT APPLAUD AS WE WARNED EARLIER. IF YOU CONTINUE YOU'LL BE ASKED TO LEAVE. LET'S MOVE FORWARD. >> CAMERON, FOLLOWED BY DANGER. >> CAMERON WON'T BE ABLE TO GET HERE UNTIL SIX. SHE IS -- STUCK IN WORK. >> DANGER, FOLLOWED BY ALYSSA. >> HELLO, EVERYBODY. WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER 2019 ALBUQUERQUE ALIBI'S BEST COMMENT. THAT'S MY KID IN THE BACK SLEEPING. I'M A RESIDENT OF COUNCILOR BENTON'S DISTRICT AND I HAVE BEEN SPENDING MOST OF MY LIFE IN COUNCILOR PEÑA OR COUNCILOR DAVIS'S DISTRICT. I WANT TO DISCUSS A HYPOTHETICAL ABOUT THE PROPOSED MEMORIAL. WHAT IF YOU PASS THE MEMORIAL? WOULD WE GET RENT CONTROL IN ALBUQUERQUE? NO. WE WOULDN'T. AND WHAT IF AT THE STATE AND LEGISLATURE THEY DID WHAT I HOPE AND THEY OVERTURN THE BAN ON RENT CONTROL? WOULD WE GET RENT CONTROL? NO. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THIS BODY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DEMOCRATICALLY DECIDE FOR ALBUQUERQUE WHAT IS BEST FOR ALBUQUERQUE AND HOW TO DEAL WITH THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS WHICH IS EXPLODING. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, WHETHER YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, WHETHER I VOTED FOR YOU OR NOT, I HAVE ABSOLUTE FAITH THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR ALBUQUERQUE MORE THAN ANYBODY IN SANTA FE OR ANY SPECIAL INTEREST HERE ARGUING AGAINST THIS. PLEASE VOTE FOR THE MEMORIAL. IT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR EVERYBODY. IT'S BEST FOR ME. AND I'D APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ALYSSA FOLLOWED BYANNALIE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THE NNL LOW INCOME HOUSING COALITION THE MAJORITY OF LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS SPEND MORE THAN HALF PAID TO LANDLORDS. OUR SISTERS AND BROTHERS ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THE HISTORIC COMMUNITIES AND SUBSIDIZING THE GENTRIFICATION AND SPACES OF NEW MEXICAN FAMILIES. THIS PROHIBBITION IS UNDEMOCRATIC AND INFRINGES ON THE COMMUNITY RIGHTS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOUSING. THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD STAND WITH THE MAJORITY OF US WHO ARE MIDDLE TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND OUR RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN SETTING THE COST OF RENT. NOT ONLY DOES THIS AFFECT HOUSING IT ALSO AFFECTS SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO RENT A SPACE TO WORK FROM AS THEY'RE AT RISK OF SHUTTING DOWN DUE TO RISING RENTS. LACK OF ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFECTS INDIGENOUS, BLACK AND LATINO RESIDENTS AND WOMEN AND LGBT PEOPLE. MY FAMILY STRUGGLES EVERY DAY WITH BEING ABLE TO AFFORD BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE FOOD, SHELTER AND CLOTHES. ON A DAILY BASIS WITH THE INCOME WE ALL RECEIVE. I HAVE SEEN FRIENDS FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS FORCE OUT OF THE HOMES WITH NOWHERE TO GO. WITH THE BAN OF RENT CONTROL THERE'S NO REGARD WITH WHERE WE GO OR HOW OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS AFFECTED. RENTAL INCREASE -- WE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS AND ARE TRYING TO DO BEST WHICH IS WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE YES TO SHOW YOU CARE ABOUT OUR RIGHTS AND FELLOW NEW MEXICANS. >> ANALEE FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA. >> HELLO, I'M A PROUD CHICANA BORN AND RAISED IN ALBUQUERQUE. BUILDING MORE HOUSING WILL CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WITH NO WAY DO LIMIT TO HOW MUCH YOU CAN CHARGE FOR RENT THERE'S NO WAY TO GUARANTEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. RENT HIKES DISPLACE LOCALS AND DESTROY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE U.S. WE CANNOT LET ALBUQUERQUE BECOME THE NEXT GENTRIFIED CITY. I LIVED IN AUSTIN WHEN RENT SKY ROCKETED I TRIED TO LEAVE AN ABUSIVE PARTNER AND FOUND MYSELF IN CRISIS UNABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE SAFETY. BECAUSE OF THIS I ENDURED MONTHS OF ABUSE. WOMEN ARE FORCED TO STAY IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS BECAUSE HOUSING IS UNAFFORDABLE. WEALTHY LANDLORDS DO NOT CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE THE WAY WE KNOW YOU DO. WE MUST DEFINE ALBUQUERQUE'S SUCCESS BY HOW MANY FAMILIES THEY HOUSE. HOW MANY WOMEN ESCAPE ABUSE, HOW MANY CHILDREN GET TO GROW UP IN THE SAME DISTRICT INSTEAD OF PARENTS HAVING TO MOVE TO FIND CHEAPER RENT. THERE'S NOT A NUMBER HIGH ENOUGH THAT DEVELOPERS SHOULD THROW AT US TO RISK LOSING OUR PEOPLE AND CULTURE. I KNOW EVERY COUNCILOR CAN PROUDLY VOTE YES FOR WOMEN, YES FOR THIS MEMORIAL. THANK YOU. >> CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY DEAN. >> HI, I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE YES ON CITY COUNCIL BILL MM25 URGING THE NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL RENT CONTROL. WE'RE SEEK THE COST OF THE RENT HAS INCREASS 40% SINCE 2020. THE MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS ARE BEING HIT THE HARDEST. 23% OF THE ESTIMATED OVER 2,800 HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE INDIGENOUS. THEY ONLY MAKE UP 4.5% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION. 9% OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS BLACK. WHILE THEY ONLY ACCOUNT FOR 3.1% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION. 67% ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS. AND 46% REPORT BEING MENTAL ILLNESS. THESE NUMBERS ARE DPROEINGING AND WILL GROW AS LONG AS WE ALLOW LANDLORDS TO PRICE GOUGE THE COST OF RENT. I ASK YOU TO STAND WITH THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE. TO REPEAL THE RENT CONTROL PROHIBITION. THANK YOU. >> DEAN FOLLOWED BY NICK. >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY COMMENT. I'M 71, AND I LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY SUPPLEMENTED BY A PART-TIME JOB. I LIVE ALONE AND I RENT A SMALL APARTMENT IN THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE LESS THAN ONE YEAR'S LIVING EXPENSES IN RESERVE. MY RENT HAS COMBAUN -- GONE UP TWICE IN FOUR YEARS. AND MY APARTMENT BUILDING WAS SOLD TO OUT OF STATE INVESTOR. THE NEW OWNER HAS BEEN VAGUE ABOUT THEIR PLANS FOR THE BUILDING AND THE TENANTS ARE CONCERNED WE MAY SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RENT. AT THIS TIME, IT'S UNLIKELY I WOULD EVEN QUALIFY FOR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING I WOULD ENUP ON THE STREET BEFORE I SECURE HOUSING. NO ONE SHOULD BE DENIED HOUSING BASED ON INABILITY TO PAY. HOUSING IS A BASIC HUMAN NEED AND A HUMAN RIGHT. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE ON THE STREET NOR SHOULD WE TOLERATE OR NORMALLIZE IT BY OFFERING TO CREATE SO-CALLED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THERE'S NOTHING SAFE ABOUT LIVING ON THE STREET. THE CURRENT PROHIBITION ON RENT CORAL -- CONTROL ALLOWS PROFIT-DRIVEN MOTIVES. IT SETS US OUT OF ANY PROCESS TO DEMAND AND NEGOTIATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS SIMPLY UNDEMOCRATIC AND INHUMANE. IT GIVES LANDLORDS AUTHORITY TO EXCLUDE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. >> NICHELAS. I'M A MEMBER OF THE LEGAL COMMUNITY AND ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. I'M A RESIDENT OF COUNCILOR BENTON'S DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I JUST WANTED TO DISSPL MOFT MYTHS AS YOU HEARD, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHT BE RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE AND LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHETHER OR NOT TO HAVE RENT CONTROL. ONE OF THE COMMON ARGUMENTS AGAINST EVEN HAVING A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO DECIDE IF RENT CONTROL SHOULD BE ALLOWED IS CONTROLLING RENT ON SOME HOUSING UNITS TO ENSURE THEY'RE AFFORDABLE ACTUALLY DRIVES UP THE RENT ON THOSE UNITS. THIS IS AN OBVIOUS ATTEMPT AT DISINFORMATION. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT TONIGHT. AT THE END OF THE DAY IF AND WHEN RENT GOES UP IN UNCONTROLLED AREA IT'S BECAUSE OF EXCLUSIVE DECISION OF LANDLORDS AND DEVELOPERS. THEY SET RENTAL AMOUNTS FOR MOST PROFITABLE FOR THEMSELVES. AS A COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE IF WE ARE GOING TO CHOOSE PEOPLE OVER PROFIT. ACROSS NEW MEXICO, RENT CONTROL IS CURRENTLY ILLEGAL, RENT HAS INCREASED 13.5% IN 2021. IN THE ALBUQUERQUE METRO WHERE 44% OF NUMENS -- NEW MEXICANS LIVE. NOW IN 2022 RENT HAS GONE UP 40% SINCE 2020. THANK YOU. >> CARINA FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER. >> THE LAST TIME I CAME HERE TO BE HEARD I SAW AN ELDERLY HOMELESS COUPLE OUT IN FRONT OF HERE ON MY WAY IN. IF YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS IS HIRE MORE POLICE TO CLEAN FROM YOUR CONSCIENCE YOU SHOULD NOT BE IN ANY POSITION OF AUTHORITY AT ALL. THIS REAL ESTATE MARKET AIDED BY BANKS AND INSURANCE COMPANIES HAS INCREASED VALUES TO THE POINT THEY'RE WORTH MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF. AND THAT IS A MORAL FAILURE OF THE HIGHEST MAGNITUDE. SPEAK FOR MYSELF, I HAVE NOT MUCH FAITH AT ALL LEFT IN THE SYSTEM YOU ALL REPRESENT BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU REPRESENT ME BUT INSTEAD DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS AND CORPORATE INTEREST AND NOT PEOPLE. I SAW AN EXAMPLE OF THAT TONIGHT WHEN HOME WISE GOT TO TALK ALL THEY WANTED TO AND SO DID THE BANK AND YOU ALL HAD TO LISTEN TO THEM BUT WE ONLY GET TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK AND WE DON'T GET TO CLAP. OKAY. IF YOU STILL CARE ABOUT MY VOTE, THEN THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE ME WRONG. VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAL. VOTE TO OVERTURN THE BAN ON RENT CONTROL. THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST THING YOU CAN DO. >> JENNIFER, FOLLOWED BY JADEN. >> I'M A RESIDENT AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN DISTRICT TWO. I WAS BORN IN ALBUQUERQUE. PHP ORGANIZER AND A HOME GROWN SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. MANY LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS LIKE MYSELF RENT A SPACE FOR BUSINESSES OR WORK FROM HOME. BECAUSE RENT IS OUT OF CONTROL SMALL BUSINESS IS SHUTTING DOWN AND STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP WITH RENTAL COST. HOME GROWN SMALL BUSINESSES ARE UNABLE TO THRIVE WHEN HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL SPACES ARE TOO EXPENSIVE. WILL ALBUQUERQUE BECOME A PLACE WHERE ONLY BIG BUSINESSES CAN OPERATE. LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS LOW LONGER STAND AGAINST OUTSIDE CORPORATIONS. DO WE WANT A CITY WHERE LOCAL OWNERS GET TO DECIDE WHAT RENT COSTS OR BE PRICED OUT AND CRUSHING ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT'S DREAM. VOTING YES MEANS YOU PUT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND HOUSING NEEDS FIRST OVER AN OUT OF STATE INVESTOR'S PORTFOLIO. FIRST OVER -- ALBUQUERQUE SMALL BUSINESSES. I KNOW YOU LOVE ALBUQUERQUE JUST AS MUCH AS I DO. VOTE YES TO TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY AND RESTORE DEMOCRACY BY SAYING WORKERS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE RENT TO STAY HOUSED AND STAY IN BUSINESS. THANK YOU. >> JADEN FOLLOWED BY BEN. >> HELLO, I'M A STUDENT AND ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. IF THE CITY IS BEING FLOODED WITH CASH WE CAN BUILD AND GUARANTEE OUR OWN PERMANENTLY AFOFRD FORDABLE HOUSING. TAKE OUT THE MIDDLEMAN. WE DON'T NEED DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE FOR OUR PEOPLE. WE DON'T WANT OUR CITY TO BE GENTRIFIED. AND DON'T WANT TO BE DISPLACED BY OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS. WE SHOULDN'T WORRY THAT END PROHIBITION WILL SCARE AWAY INVESTORS. AND DEVELOPERS ARE AFRAID OF ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CHARGE WHATEVER THEY WANT. IT MEANS THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS NOT JUST LANDLORDS AND DEVELOPERS. THAT IS WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO JOIN US AND URGE THE STATE LEGISLATURE END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL SO LOCAL COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO ENACT RENT CORAL IF WE DEEM IT NECESSARY. SHOW YOUR SUPPORT BY VOTING YES ON THE MEMORIAL. THANK YOU. >> BEN FOLLOWED BY JEREMIAH. >> I SPENT THE PAST TEN YEARS WORKING AND LIVING MOSTLY IN THE COORS AND 40 AREA OF DISTRICT ONE. I WORK AT A MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT IN THAT AREA. AND MY SCHOOL HAS STUDENTS WHO ARE HOMELESS AND MANY MORE FAMILIES WHO ARE HOUSING INSECURE. MAYBE IT'S OBVIOUS, MAYBE IT'S NOT, BUT STUDENTS WHO DON'T HAVE HOMES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUCCEED IN SCHOOL. IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET TO SCHOOL, IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE HYGIENE, IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT WE'RE DENYING THEM AN EDUCATION. AND OUR CITY CURRENTLY DOES NOT EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE RENT PROTECTION FOR THESE FAMILIES. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAL, URGE THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO REPEAL THE BAN AND BEFORE I LEAVE I WANT TO SHARE SOME OF THE RENT INCREASES IN THE COORS 40 AND AREA. THE APARTMENTS HAVE GONE UP $100 RENT FROM FEBRUARY. MESA RIDGE HAS GONE UP $175. STRIDE APARTMENTS HAS GONE UP 22 -- $225. AND LADERA HAS GONE UP ABOUT $300. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. PLEASE VOTE YES. >> JEREMIAH FOLLOWED BY KEVIN. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M A TENANT IN DISTRICT SIX I HAVE LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE MY WHOLE LIFE. I HAVE TWO ROOMMATES AND HAVE TO SHARE A ROOM BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD RENT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE UNDEMOCRATIC PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. I WORK AT CNM AND EVERY SINGLE DAY I DEAL WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE FACING A HOUSING CRISIS. WHETHER THAT BE THEY HAVE BEEN OR ARE ABOUT TO BE EVICTED. THE COMMON THREAD IS THE SAME THEY RAISE RENT AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED HERE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT. I SPENT OVER TWO HOURS HELP A STUDENT LOOK FOR HOUSING SHE CAN AFFORD. IT CANNOT ABOVE THAT BECAUSE SHE SUFFERED A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY. WE CALLED EVERY APARTMENT WE COULD FIND, THEY SAID WE HAVE RAISED RENT. THIS IS JUST ONE STUDENT. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY MORE IN THIS EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE MEMBERS OF ALREADY VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. JUST THIS MORNING I SPOKE WITH A HOMELESS VETERAN. THE CITY AND STATE ARE FLUSHED WITH CASH SHOULDN'T WE USE THAT TO SUPPORT THE LIVES OF PEOPLE LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT RESIDENTS PLEASE LET US DECIDE OUR RENT COST INSTEAD OF LETTING CORPORATIONS DRIVE US OUT. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAL. >> KEVIN FOLLOWED BY THOMAS. >> HELLO, I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO RECENTLY BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOME. I WAS ONLY TO DO THAT DUE TO A LARGE AMOUNT OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER. I HAVE MET HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS. YIEB TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT HOUSING ISSUES RISING RENT AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE PRICES. THE AVERAGE 40% INCREASE IS UNPRECEDENTED. WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING UP AND OUR NEIGHBORS ARE BEING DRIVEN INTO HOMELESSNESS. I'VE ONLY MET A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT TOLD ME THEY DIDN'T HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH HOUSING BUT JUST ALL THAT I'VE TALKED TO KNOW OR HAVE KNOWN AT LEAST ONE PERSON AND LIVES HAVE BEEN DEVASTATED. THESE ARE NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY MEMBERS. THE CURRENT PAN ON RENT CONTROL MAKEATIZE IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE ANY SAY IN SETTING THE COST OF RENT. IT IS COMPLETELY UNDEMOCRATIC AND ONLY ENSURES THAT A FEW PEOPLE CAN AFFORD A PLACE TO LIVE WHILE MORE AND MORE OF US WORK OUT OF THE HOMES AND ON THE STREETS. WHILE THIS MEMORIAL DOES NOT ENACT RENT CONTROL IT SUPPORTS MAKING IT AN OPTION AND THAT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND PASS THIS MEMORIAL. THANK YOU. >> THOMAS FOLLOWED BY JOSE. >> HELLO, I LIVE HERE IN 21 YEARS. I ALSO AM A MEMBER OF THE PSP. I HAVE TRAVELLED ALL OVER THE CITY AND MOSTLY FOUND OUT THE EXACT SAME STORY OF PEOPLE BEING FORCED TO MOVE AND UNABLE TO AFFORD THE CURRENT RENT. THEY HAVE HAD VERY LONG DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LANDLORDS ON WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS WORTH IT TO HAVE TO PAY $200 IN FEES. THERE'S ALSO THE FACT THAT MANY OF THESE TENETS ARE ABLE TO MOVE. SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE TERRIBLE OR THEY HAVE OFTEN ARE UNABLE TO LIVE AND HAVE ISSUES. MANY ARE LIVING ON HEALTH VOUCHERS AND UNABLE TO MOVE TO ANOTHER LOCATION. THIS IS A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY. I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAM. AND TO ASK THE STATE TO REPEAL THE STATE PROVISION ON RENT CONTROL. I ALSO. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JOSE FOLLOWED BY RAMONA. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M A TENANT OF DISTRICT TWO. I'M A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHWEST CARPENTERS LOCAL 1319. I URGE THECOUNSEL TOPASS M-225. IT SHOULD STAND WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE WORKING CLASS AND NOT RICH LANDLORDS AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN SETTING THE PRICE OF RENT. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS GIVEN $7.5 MILLION TO TIME DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE CHARGING $1,650. IN ORDER TO AFFORD RENT AT A PLACE LIKE THIS I A JOURNEYMAN CARPENTER WOULD HAVE TO PAY ALMOST HALF MY INCOME. FOR A NON-UNION CARPENTER, IT WOULD BE A LARGER PORTION OF THE INCOME. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. IT IS A TRAGEDY THAT THE WORKERS WHO BUILD THESE WITH THEIR SHOULDERS AND BODIES CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THESE APARTMENTS. WE DO NOT WANT ALBUQUERQUE TO BE WHERE THE CITY WHERE WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES ARE DESTROYED AND DISPLACED. TAMMY INTRODUCED A MEMORIAL THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEEDS OF EVERYDAY RESIDENTS. STAND WITH WORKS THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS THEY BUILT. PASS M-22-5. >> RAMONA FOLLOWED BY JORDAN. >> GOOD EVENING, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN ALBUQUERQUE AND LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M ON THE BARGAINING COMMITTEE OF MY UNION WHICH HAS ENDORSED THIS MOBILIZATION. ALBUQUERQUE IS FACING AN UNPRECEDENTED HOUSING CRISIS WITH RENT SKY ROCKETING. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE ALL THE TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS THIS CRISIS. VOTING YES ON THE MEMORIAL URGING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL WILL SHOW ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS THAT THIS COUNCIL IS SEEKING A SOLUTION FOR OUR HOUSING CRISIS THAT AFFECTS US ALL. IT WILL NOT ENACT RENT CONTROL BUT WILL SEND AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE FROM THE LARGEST CITY IN OUR STATE. WHERE 40% OF RESIDENTS ARE RENTERS. ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING TO YOU TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND SIMPLY STATE THAT OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE DEMOCRATIC DECISIONS ABOUT HOUSING, RATHER THAN BE RESTRICTED BY A BLANKET PROHIBITION BY THE STATE. WE KNOW ADDRESSING THE CRISIS WILL INVOLVE VARIOUS POLICIES. AND OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED BY A BAN ON RENT CONTROL THAT DOES NOT CONSIDER THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. SO VOTE YES ON MEMORIAL ON M-22-5. I'M IN DISTRICT TWO. THANK YOU. >> JORDAN FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA. >> HELLO, I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT AS WELL AS FULL-TIME STUDENT AT UNM. I'VE SEEN INITIATIVES TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING INITIATIVE BEING ONE OF THEM. THE SOLUTION TO THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. SINCE MARCH OF 2020 THE AVERAGE RENT IN ALBUQUERQUE HAS INCREASED BY AROUND 40%. PEOPLE HAVE NO SAY OVER THEIR HOUSING AND WHERE THEY LIVE OR HOW MUCH THEIR RENT IS. IF MOST OF THE PEOPLE -- MOST OF THE HOUSES ARE STILL BEING USED TO GENERATE PROFIT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ACTIVELY DISPLACING RESIDENTS. TNC AND CORP RAPGZS DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR THEY RAISE RENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO RAISE RENT. THEY DO NOT TAKE CARE OF TENANTS AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DISPLACE ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS AND ADDING TO THE HOUSING CRISIS. THE SOLUTION IS TO GIVE -- AND I ALL ALL OF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PRONALITY URGE YOU TO URGE YOU TO VOTE YES. THANK YOU. >> YAUGS JOSHUA ? >> FOLLOWED BY CANDICE. >> THANK YOU. I'M JOSHUA, I AM A REALTER AND PROPERTY MANAGER. I REPRESENT SOMEWHERE OVER 280 PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU AND PEOPLE IN THE ROOM THAT OWN ONE PROPERTY AND OWN IT AS AN INVESTOR THAT TRIES TO BETTER THEIR LIVES. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, AND I'M A RENTER AS WELL. I MANAGE PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET HOUSED. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PROPERTY MANAGERS DO NOT RAISE RENT OTHER THAN WASN'T THE MARKET DICTATE. THE MARKET DICTATE. THREE YEARS AGO IF YOU SAID I WANT TO RENT A HOUSE FOR $2,000 A MONTH I'D SAY GOOD LUCK. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO RENT IT AND IT'S MONEY YOU'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE. THE REASON BEING IS THAT $2,000 WOULD BE A HALF-MILLION DOLLAR MORTGAGE. WHY WOULD YOU BE RENTING AT ALL IF YOU CAN GO AND PICK UTWHATEVER HOUSE YOU HAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE INCOME AND IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THE MARKET DICTATES EVERYTHING. WE LIVE AND WORK IN A FREE MARKET. MILK GOES UP, GAS GOES UP. WE DON'T GET TO DICTATE ATTORNEY'S FEE. WE DON'T GET TO DICTATE DOCTOR'S FEES. WE DON'T GET TO DICTATE COST OF LIVING. WHY WOULD WE TAKE INVESTMENT AWAY FROM A PERSON THAT OWNS ONE PROPERTY? I'LL GIVE ONE STORY. I'VE GOT AN OLD LADY WHO HAS A HOME AND LIVED THERE HER WHOLE LIFE. THAT'S RENTING HER HOUSE OUT TO PAY MEDICATION BECAUSE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYS FOR RENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> CANDICE FOLLOWED BY JORDAN. >> HELLO, I AM A TENANT IN DISTRICT TWO AND ALSO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER IN A LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR M-22-5 THE MEMORIAL TO END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL BECAUSE HOUSING INSECURITY AND HOMELESSNESS IS AFFECTING MY STUDENTS. THESE ARE 10 AND 11-YEAR-OLDS WHO ARE CONSTANTLY BEING CHRONICALLY ABSENT BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING EVICTED. WE JUST HAD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS DEMOLISHED AND WE HAVE 100 STUDENTS THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY ARE. THEIR HEALTH IS BEING AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE FOR THEMSELVES. THE PERFORMANCE IS BEING AFFECTED AT MY JOB BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A HOME TO REST THEIR HEADS. THESE ARE 11-YEAR-OLDS AND THIS IS A GOOD MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND HOUSING INSECURE. THIS IS THE FACE OF HOMELESSNESS IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE CAN'T ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE. I KNOW WE ALL CARE ABOUT OUR KIDS IN THE CITY AND WE WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY KIDS IN THE CITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD. VOTING YES ON THE MEMORIAL WILL MAKE MY STUDENT AND THE FAMILIES HAVE HOPE AND FEEL LIKE THEIR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD. THANK YOU. >> JORDAN FOLLOWED BY LAURIE. >> HELLO, MY DISTRICT IS 11. I'M URGING YOU TO VOTE YES TO PASS MM25. DISTRICT 11 IS REPRESENTED BY JAV -- MY RENT INCREASED $235 SINCE DEACON PROPERTY SERVICES HAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. JAVIER YOU SHARE A NAME WITH MY HERO. WITH THIS PROHIBITION ON RENT WILL STAY IN FINANCIAL DESTITUTE AND INJURE HIS CHANCE OF BECOMING A DOCTOR. THAT OF WHICH ONLY MAKES 5.8% OF ALL HEALTH CARE POSITIONS AS OF 2019. THIS PROHIBITION ON CREATING A HEALTHY VITAL COMMUNITY OF SAFE AND DIVERSE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO FRACTURE NOT ONLY MY LIVING SITUATION BUT ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE CITY CAN'T SPRINKLE SLOGANS OF HOPE AROUND TOWN TO HIDE THE AGONY OF ITS PEOPLE. ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS HELP TODAY NOT TOMORROW. PLEASE HELP US TODAY BY PASSING MM25. ARTISTS, DOCTORS, HEALERS, AND HEROES ARE ALL ASKING. MY BROTHER AND I LIVE IN THE SAME UNIT. OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE LEAVING THE BOTH OF US. >> LAURIE FOLLOWED BY MARGO. >> LAURIE IS ONE OF THE ELDERS WHO HAD RENT RAISED AND SHE IS SICK. SHE SHOULD BE JOINING BY HER PHONE AT -- >> HELLO, I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. HOWEVER, I'M A SOCIAL WORKER, I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME TRAVELLING THROUGH ALL OF THE DISTRICTS ALL AROUND THE CITY. I'M HERE TO URGE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PASS MM-22-5. I HAVE A CLIENT FROM DISTRICT SEVEN WHOSE LANDLORD DECIDED NOT TO RENEW THEIR LEASE SO SHE COULD MAKE A PROFIT ON THE HOUSE THEY'RE LIVING IN. AND LAST WEEK THAT CLIENT WAS HIT BY A CAR WHILE SHE WAS PANHANDLING AFTER GETTING KICKED SO SHE COULD PAY FOR A MOTEL ROOM. I HAVE A CLIENT IN DISTRICT ONE WHOSE ONLY INCOME IS GENERAL ASSISTANCE. THEY CARE FOR THREE CHILDREN AND SEVERAL GRANDCHILDREN AND BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF THEIR RENT, EVEN WITH HOUSING ASSISTANCE THEY'RE UNABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT IF THEY LOST THEIR VOUCHER AND THEY CAN'T PAY UTILITY BILLS. BECAUSE OF THIS, THE UTILITIES ARE ABOUT TO BE SHUT OFF. IF THAT HAPPENS THEN THE COUNTY WILL END VOUCHERS LEAVING THEM, THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN HOMELESS. I HAVE A CLIENT IN DISTRICT SIX WHO JUST HAD A NEW LANDLORD TAKE OVER THEIR APARTMENT BUILDING. AFTER SIX YEARS OF BEING HOMELESS THEY JUST MOVED IN AND HAD BEEN DOING VERY WELL IN THEIR RECOVERY. HOWEVER BECAUSE THIS NEW LANDLORD WANTS TO RAISE THE RENT ON THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX IT ILPRICE THEM AND THE TENANTS OUT OF THE COMPLEX. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> LAURIE, FOLLOWED BY JOE. LAURIE, CAN YOU UNMUTE? WE'LL TRY TO COME BACK TO YOU. JOE FOLLOWED BY TODD. >> I'M NOT A PROPERTY -- MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY OWNER. I DON'T MANAGE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES. I'M IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 47 YEARS. RENT CONTROL, EVEN THOUGH YOU HEARD A LOT OF VERY PASSIONATE STORIES THAT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO PEOPLE WHO FEEL IT IN THEIR HEART, IT IS NOT THE SOLUTION. IF ANYTHING IT MAKES THINGS WORSE. THE SITUATION THAT REALLY HAPPENS IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT RENT CONTROL YOU HAVE ALL THE INCENTIVE FOR PROPERTY DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE UNITS GOES AWAY. ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA JUST MAYBE A YEAR AGO PASSED RENT CONTROL, 85% OF THEIR MULTIFAMILY PERMITS DISAPPEARED. WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS TRANSFERRINGING THE PROBLEM FROM THE CURRENT GENERATION TO THE NEXT GENERATION. NOBODY IS GOING TO BUILD MORE UNITS BECAUSE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY. OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, THE AVERAGE INCREASE IN THE COST OF RENT IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 2.7% PER YEAR. THAT INCLUDES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S GONE UP DRAMATICICALLY. IT'S GONE UP DRAMATICALLY BECAUSE INFLATION HAS CAUSED UTILITY RATES AND COST OF LABOR TO GO UP WHICH CAUSING THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO RAISE THEIR RATE. IF YOU IMPLEMENT RENT CONTROL IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A BIGGER PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD. >> TODD FOLLOWED BY RICKY. >> I'M FOURTH GENERATION DOING COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I LIVE IN COUNCILOR BENTON'S DISTRICT. MY FAMILY PRACTICED COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. WE'VE MAPPED IN RECENT TIMES HOUSING SHORTAGE. THE HOUSING SHORTAGE IS DUE TO THE SUCCESS WE'VE DONE AS A COMMUNITY RECRUITING JOBS WERE NETFLIX AMAZON INTEL. IN YOUR BRIEFING BOOK, IT LISTS ALL OF THE JOBS FOR YOU. WE NEED 19,000 RENTAL UNITS AND 35,000 NEW SINGLE FAMILY UNITS TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR THESE JOBS. IF WE DON'T, RENT CONTROL IS NOT GOING TO CREATE NEW UNITS. PRICE CONTROL ISN'T CREATE NEW UNITS. ONLY NEW UNITS WILL CREATE NEW UNITS. UNTIL WE HAVE A MARKETPLACE WHERE YOU HAVE MORE UNITS THAN PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE RENT INCREASESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: RICKY FOLLOWED BY -- >>COUN. BENTON: JUST AS A REMINDER EVERYBODY ON BOTH SIDES. WE ASK THAT YOU LEAVE THE CHAMBERS IF YOU CONTINUE WITH APPLAUSE. WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, ALSO OUR RULE OF DECORUM ROIRM -- REQUIRE WE HAVE ONE PERSON AT THE PODIUM AT A TIME. >> RICKY FOLLOWED BY ALAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M NOT SURE THE VICINITY OF THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A VIOLATION OF RULES. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE CORNER. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK SOMEONE WAS FILMING THERE LAST WEEK AND THEY'RE ASKED TO LEAVE AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: PLEASE PROCEED. >> I'M RICKY, I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I'M A GRADUATE WITH STUDENT AT NM. AND I SUPPORT THIS BILL. I HAVE HEARD SO MANY FELLOW GRADUATE WORKERS TELL ME THEY CAN BARELY AFFORD RENT HIKES. LAST YEAR THEIR STIPEND COVERED RENT. THIS YEAR, THEIR ENTIRE STIPEND IS GOING TO THEIR RENT AND THEY HAVE NOTHING LEFT OVER. THIS PAST MAY IN THE MIDDLE OF FINALS MYSELF AND OTHER STUDENTS WERE FORCED TO MOVE OUT OF HOUSING. A PLACE THAT IS MARKETED ITSELF TO STUDENTS BECAUSE THE NEW LANDLORDS DIDN'T WANT THE PROPERTY TO BE GEARED TOWARD HOUSING STUDENTS. I WAS LUCKY WHO HAD A FRIEND WHO WAS WILLING TO TAKE ON A ROOMMATE. OTHERWISE I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO CONTINUE MY STUDIES AT UNM. LANDLORDS DO NOT CARE ABOUT HOW THEIR DECISIONS AFFECT LOCAL TENTS SO LONG AS THEY MEET PROFIT GOALS. WE KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT LOCALES, VOTING YES SHOWS YOU CARE ABOUT DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR PROPOSING THIS MEMORIAL. I URGE YOU TO HELP ENDING THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. IT INFRINGES ON RIGHTS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HOUSING. >> ALAN FOLLOWED BY ZOE. >> COUNSELING PRESIDENT, I'M AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO. I AS WELL AM WHERE LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I LIVED MY ENTIRE LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND RENTED FOR MANY YEARS IN DISTRICT SEVEN. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT RENT HAVE INCREASED SO AS EVERYTHING ELSE. RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER. EVEN SUGGESTION OF RENT CONTROL HAS NEGATIVE AFFECTS. RENT CONTROL NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE HOUSING MARKET BY DISCOURAGING THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSING AND DEMINGSING THE VALUE AND INVESTMENTS OF PROPERTYS. AS YOU'VE HEARD OVER THE PAST WEEK, IT DOES NOT JUST IMPACT THE HOUSING INDUSTRY. WITHOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THE REMODELLING OF AGING PROPERTIES MANY CITIZENS ARE WITHOUT WORK. ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, BUILDING INSPEBTERS, PAINTERS, CARPET INSTALLERS, THESE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS AND THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS -- TWO YEARS AGO ALBUQUERQUE FUNDED A RESEARCH THAT SAID ALBUQUERQUE WAS OVER 15,000 UNITS SHORT. THE SOLUTION TO HIGHER COST OF HOUSING IS NOT PRICE CONTROLS, THE ANSWER IS INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING. THE LAW OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND. LET'S WORK TOGETHER STREAMLINE PERMITTING PROCESS, MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD TO HELP VOEZ IN NEED. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THAT COMMENT. I HAVE A COMMENT FOR YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL -- I HOPE YOU GET THE SAME RESPECT. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN GIVING EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM LISTENING INTENTLY TO ALL THE COMMENTS. I KNOW THAT I'M LISTEN INTENTLY TO ALL THE COMMENTS NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON. THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED, TALK ABOUT THE EXAMPLE OF ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA. AND THERE WAS A SIMILAR RENT CAP PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR A GOOD WHILE. I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS 30% REDUCTION OF NEW HOME STARTS. THAT IS THE GOAL. WE REALLY WANT NEW STARTS, NEW HOUSING, NEW MULTIHOUSINGING TO LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY BY INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THIS COMMUNITY. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WHAT THE IMPACTS -- I UNDERSTAND DETRIMENTAL IMPACTS OF WHAT THAT DID TO ST. PAUL? >> IN ST. PAUL ON A FOUR-YEAR AVERAGE IT WAS DOWN 30%. THE FIRST THREE MONTHS AFTER BEING ENACTED THEY WERE DOWN 80% YEAR OVER YEAR. MEANWHILE IN MINNEAPOLIS, WHERE THERE IS NO RENT CONTROL CONSTRUCTION IS UP OVER 60%. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> Z ORBS ? >> ZOE FOLLOWED BY STEVE. >> HI, I'M A TENANT IN DISTRICT SEVEN. AND AN ARGINIZER -- ORGANIZER. I'M A STUDENT-TEACHER. I HAD TO MOVE ACROSS TOWN BECAUSE MY RENT FOR MY 400 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENT WENT UP $400 WITH ZERO NOTICE. THAT'S $400 THAT AS A STRUGGLING STUDENT AND STRUGGLING TEACHER I CANNOT AFFORD. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE OF MY STUDENTS OR NEIGHBORS GO HOMELESS. PLEASE VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAL TO END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. THE UNPRECEDENTED INCREASE ON RENT IS FORCING ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS INTO HOMELESSNESS. THE BEST WAY TO COMBAT HOMELESSNESS IS TO PREVENT IT. AT LEAST 40% OF ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS ARE TENANTS. THAT'S ALMOST HALF THE CITY. THERE ARE FAR FEWER LANDLORDS. REPRESENT THE MORNALITY WHICH BLJ ON HOW MUCH LANDLORDS CAN CHARGE US FOR RENT. THANK YOU. >> STEVE FOLLOWED BY KENT. >> HELLO ONCE AGAIN, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER HERE IN THE AREA FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. SEVERAL BLOCKS FROM HERE. SERING AS THE PRESIDENT OF APARTMENT ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF PROPERTY OWNERS HAS BEEN A GREAT HONOR. I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBER OF THE HOUSING ADVISORY BOARD I WAS ON OVER THE LAST YEAR. LAST 20 YEARS, IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING. KEEPING UP WITH OVERALL COST OF REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE SECURITY DOORS THAT ONCE WERE $75 ARE $152. COOLERS THAT WERE $357 ARE $575. HOUSING IS A MAJOR CHALLENGE. WE NEED ALL COME UP WITH IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS TO HELP AND NOT HURT OUR CITY. THE REPEAL OF RENT CONTROL IS NOT THE ANSWER. THESE ARE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO BE ASKING OURSELVES. IS REPEALING THE RENT CONTROL A REAL SOLUTION? IF INDEED EVIDENCE SHOWS IT STOPS OR SLOWS DEVELOPMENT IT AFFECTS LOCAL BUSINESSES LIKE PLUMBING AND OTHER COMPANIES. THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SEE WILL DISAPPEAR. THE IDEA OF REPEALING RENT CONTROL IS NOT GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION YOU THINK. IF ANYTHING IT WILL DO THE OPPOSITE OR SLOW GROWTH OR STOP GROWTH. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU TO DEVELOP SOLUTIONS. PLEASE VOTE NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. GRANT. YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE ON THE HOUSE AUTHORITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE IN FACT HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THEM. PRETTY LONG PRESENTATION. I'M SORRY YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME KIND OF RESPECT FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. BUT, YOU SERVE ON THAT ADVISORY BOARD AND IT WAS A LONG PRESENTATION A FEW WEEKS AGO. I THINK A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO CHANGE EVERYTHING IN NEW MEXICO WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING NEW HOUSING AND BEING ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE INVESTMENT. WAS RENT CONTROL ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS? YOU HAD A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WAS RENT CONTROL ONE OF THOSE? >> IT WAS NOT. >> WHAT WAS SOME OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AS FAR AS ENSURINGING THAT INVESTMENT COMES INTO THIS COMMUNITY SO WE CAN PROVIDE MULTIHOUSINGING AND HOUSING SO THAT WE CAN LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AND GIVE PEOPLE CHOICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >> THAT'S CORRECT, THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE SOME OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAD? >> I JUST KNOW THAT LAST 15 DAYS AGO AS OF TONIGHT THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BY MFA AND HOUSING COMMITTEE. AS YOU WERE AWARE, THERE WERE SOLUTIONS. WE WORKED ON THEM FOR OVER A YEAR WE FELT LIKE WERE GOOD ONES TO HELP THE HOUSING SOLUTION WE HAVE. THERE'S SOLUTIONS WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AS AN ASSOCIATION AND AS DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP GUIDE THE WAY TO MAKE THINGS GOOD FOR ALL OF US AS CITIZENS OF THE GREAT SATE. YOU ALL SET THE TONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANKS. I APOLOGIZE YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME RESPECT AND ATTENTION WE'RE GIVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT. >> KENT FOLLOWED BY TONY. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THANK YOU HAVE ENTERTAINING THE MEMORIAL THIS EVENING. AS WELL-INTENTIONED AS IT MAY BE, I REPRESENT THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE ASSOCIATION OF RELTORS. I I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT. THERE'S 4300 MEMBERS OF THE GREATER ALBUQUERQUE ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS. AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THERE'S A MILLION, FIVE-HUNDED THOUSAND THAT ARE REALTORS. THEY'RE THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE THE VOICE FOR ORGANIZED REAL ESTATE. I ECHO THE FACT THAT WE BELIEVE IN RENT CONTROL WILL SLOW THE ECONOMY AND PUT THE BREAKS ON DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL SOLVE OUR PROBLEM. WHAT WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM IS IF WE COME TOGETHER FOR SOLUTIONS SEVERAL OF WHICH WE'VE SEEN IN THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL COMING OUT IN BITS OF PIECES WE'RE PICKING UP ON. I WANT TO TELL YOU THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS AND LOCAL ASSOCIATION STAND IN FIRM SUPPORT OF DEVELOPING NEW ROOFTOPS IN WHATEVER FORM THAT MIGHT COME. WE REALLY LIKE SOME OF THE IDEAS WE'RE HEARING. AND WE ARE STANDING IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT. THANK YOU. >> TONY FOLLOWED BY MARISSA. >> GOOD EVENING, I LIVE IN COUNCILOR GROUT'S DISTRICT NINE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I OWN A BOUTIQUE REAL ESTATE AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY. THIS MEMORIAL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE RENTAL COMMUNITY. MY OWNERS ARE NOT CORPORATE LARGE INVESTORS. IN FACT, 95% OF MY OWNERS OWN ONE TO THREE PROPERTIES. THESE OWNERS HAVE PURCHASED THESE PROPERTIES FOR THEIR RETIREMENT, THEY CARE FOR THEIR PROPERTIES. THEY MAKE REPAIRS AND NECESSARY UPGRADES. WITH RENT CONTROL IN PLACE HOW DOES THE LANDLORD COVER THEIR EXPENSES OF OWNER THE HOME? AS WE KNOW PROPERTY TAXES INCREASE EVERY YEAR ALONG WITH HOMEOWNER'S COST AND MAINTENANCE. WITH THE CREASE IN THESE EXPENSES AND NOT BEING ABLE TO RAISE RENT TO COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES THE PROPERTY STARTS TO LOSE MONEY. THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL DO THEIR BEST TO SURVIVE WITH THE MARGINS. THEY WILL EITHER DECIDE TO NOT MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY OR SELL THE PROPERTY. IN MY RENTAL PORTFOLIO I'VE SOLD 15 PROPERTIES, FOUR OF WHICH REMAINED AS RENTALES. WHICH ONLY EXAGGERATES THE NEED FOR MORE RENTAL UNITS. THERE'S A STUDY IN 2018 ON RENT CONTROL AND FAILURES. IT HELPS AFFORDABILITY IN THE SHORT RUN BUT IN THE LONG RUN DECREASES AFFORDABLE. PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MARISSA FOLLOWED BY PAUL. >> HELLO, I LIVE IN CONTRADICT I ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE YES. WHENEVER I THINK OF AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO HOUSING MY MIND GOES TO SINGLE MOTHERS IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS WHO ARE BOUPD TO -- BOUND TO THEIR ABUSER. IF HOUSING IS AFFORDABLE IT WENT BE A CHAIN TO SOMEONE WHO ABUSES THEM. IN A WORLD OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT WILL BE FREEING FOR THOSE NEEDING TO LEAVE SITUATIONS. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL DIRECTLY TO STAND WITH VICTIMS OF ABUSE AND STAND WITH EVERYONE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS. HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> PAUL FOLLOWED BY VICTORIA. >> VICTORIA FOLLOWED BY LANA. >> HELLO, I AM A MARKETING MANAGER AND I WORK FROM HOME. WHICH MEANS WHERE I LIVE IS IMPORTANT. I LIVE IN A TWO BED-TWO BATH IN DISTRICT ONE. WHEN I MOVED IN 2021 MY RENT WAS $814. NOW I PAY $992 FOR THE SAME UNIT. THERE'S NO UP GRADES OR CHANGES TO CONTINUE TO LIVING THERE COMFORTABLY WITHOUT ADDITIONAL STRESS I HAVE TO SWITCH JOBS LEAVING BEHIND WORK AT A NON-PROFIT THAT I FOUND EXTREMELY MEANINGFUL. PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT AN OPTION FOR EVERYONE. SOME PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE ON FIXED INCOMES DUE TO DISABILITY. OR THEY'RE ELDERLY. AND THEY'RE BEING IMPACTED. HIGHER RENT MEANS MORE SACRIFICES ARE RESIDENTS AND LESS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO REMAIN IN THE HOMES. LIKE THE SINGLE MOTHER OF THREE BELOW AND THE TWO YOUNG WOMEN OF COLOR BELOW HER WHO JUST MOVED UP. HALF OF MY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS SWITCHING EVERY SINGLE MONTH. ANDGIST -- I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD WHERE WE ARE. PLEASE STAND WITH THE RENTERS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND PASS M-22-5 AS A WAY TO HAVE HOUSING AVAILABILITY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT ALL TO HELP EVERYONE. THAT'S ALL I GOT. >> LANA FOLLOWED BY JOEL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, CITY COUNCIL, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HOME BUILDER'S ASSOCIATION OF CENTRAL NEW MEXICO. WE OPPOSE MEMORIAL M-22-5. RENT CONTROL NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE HOUSING MARKET BY DISCOURAGING CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOUSING. WE NEED SOLUTIONS THAT PROVIDE MORE HOUSING NOT LESS. RENT CONTROL WILL DRIVE DEVELOPERS AND LANDLORDS OUT OF THE MARKET WHICH MEANS THERE WON'T BE HOUSING. WE CAN WORK TOGETHER FOR REAL SOLUTIONS. THE SOLUTION TO A HIGHER COST OF HOUSING IS NOT PRICE CONTROL. THE REAL ANSWER IS TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING. WE HAVE SOLUTIONS. BUILDING INSPECTIONS, CREATE INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO ENTER THE MARKET, EVEN INCENTIVIZE TO CREATE MORE TWO-YEAR CERTIFICATES FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON ALL OF THE SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. >> JOEL FOLLOWED BY NATHAN. >> HELLO, I'M FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. PLEASE VOTE YES TO URGE THE STATE TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. ON MY WAY HERE I COUNTED 17 HOMELESS PEOPLE. THESE ARE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'VE LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE MY WHOLE LIFE. MY MOM WAS A SINGLE PARENT. SHE GOT GOOD GRADES AND WORKED TWO JOBS. HE DID THIS TO PROVIDE FOR ME AND MY THREE OTHER SIBLINGS. THOSE SHE'S DEAL WITH FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT AFFECTS INDIGENOUS, BLACK AND LATINO AND LGBTQ. HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. MY RENT WENT UP $300. I'M EXPECTING IT TO GO UP $600. I'M THE ONLY PROVIDER. I LIVE IN A STUD CROW APARTMENT. MY STUDIO APARTMENT RIGHT NOW MY SWAMP COOLER IS OUT. PLEASE VOTE YES. >> NATHAN FOLLOWED BY CAMERON. CAMERON FOLLOWED BY DEANNA. >> HELLO. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. AND THAT VOTING YES TO THIS MEMORIAL IS WHAT THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE NEED. IF YOU DO NOT VOTE YES, YOU ARE NOT HELPING THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE. YOU HELP THE SMALL AMOUNT OF RICH LANDLORDS WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR PROFIT. DON'T YOU THINK THE CITY AND STATE SHOULD BE PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARD VOTING GOOD QUALITY AFFORDABLE AND PUBLIC HOUSING? CURRENTLY, I AM FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO LIVE WITH MY PARENTS DURING THIS HOUSING DISASTER. BECAUSE I CANNOT AFFORD THE RAISING APARTMENT PRICES. WITHOUT THEM, I WOULD BE FORCED TO PAY RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS FOR TINY PLACES. AS MUCH AS I LOVE MY PARENTS I DON'T WANT TO LIVE WITH THEM FOREVER. I GUARANTEE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE IN THIS SITUATION. AND I'M JUST LUCKY ENOUGH I HAVE PEOPLE TO FALL BACK ON. A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THIS. HAVE IT THIS GOOD. AND ARE ALL ON THEIR OWN. WE NEED TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE YES ON M-22 BILL. >> BRIANNA FOLLOWED BY LAURA. >> HELLO, I'M A TENANT IN DISTRICT TWO. I URNL THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON COUNCIL BILL M-22-5. I'VE LIVED IN NEW MEXICO MY WHOLE LIFE AND I'VE KNOWN SO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MY FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS THAT HAVE STRUGGLED TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES OR THEIR AREAS DUE TO INCREASING RENT. ONE OF THE PEOPLE IS MY CLOSEST FRIEND WHO GAVE ME PERMISSION TO TELL HER STORY TODAY. SHE HAD CUSTODY OF HER YOUNGER BROTHER AND HAS TO WORK THREE JOBS TO SUPPORT HERSELF AND HIM. SO SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. LAST -- HER LANDLORD INCREASED RENT BY $125 A MONTH WHICH MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO AFFORD TO STAY SO THEY HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND HOUSING IN THE DEAD OF WINTER. THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE AVAILABLE IN HER PRICE RANGE. SHE WAS FORCED TO TAKE ON MORE JOBS TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. REPEALING THE STATE WIDE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL WOULD PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE MY FRIEND AND ANYONE IN HER SITUATION BY GIVING HER THE RIGHT TO BUILD A HOUSING MARKET THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> LAURA FOLLOWED BY KATHLEEN. KATHLEEN FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM. WILLIAM FOLLOWED BY FREDERICK. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M FREDERICK, I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE, EDUCATED AND I'M A GRADUATE OF UNM. 80% OF THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES ARE OWNED BY MOM AND POP OPERATIONS. I'M A LICENSED REALTOR. AND OWN MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE APARTMENTS. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO AGAINST THIS MEASURE. IT WILL HAVE DEVASTAING AFFECTS TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND MY WIFE. WE'RE NOT A TITAN DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T GET MONEY FROM THE CITY. I'M PROUD TO SAY WE'VE GOTTEN NO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WE'VE BUILT. THERE'S A SOLUTION FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER AND NOT PUT A LIMIT ON RENT INCREASE. THE SOLUTION IS POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS ARE LOW INTEREST RATES OR BOND ISSUES WHICH HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE CITY AND COUNTY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PROVIDE CITY-OWNED LAND. YOU HEARD THE HOME WISE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT CITY PROPERTY THAT COULD BE CONVERTED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE'S LARGE LOTS THAT COULD HAVE ACCESSORY RESIDENCE BUILT. THERE ANSWER IS NOT RENT CONTROL. IT'S WORKING WITH US 80% OF SMALL DEVELOPERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> PATRICIA FOLLOWED BY KATIE. >> HELLO, I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I AM ONE OF THE LANDLORDS THAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT I'M RICH AND HAVE GOT SO MUCH MONEY. I'VE WORKED TWO JOBS IN MY LIFETIME. I WAS A POLICE OFFICER FOR TWO YEARS AND BOUGHT RENTAL PROPERTY TO TRY TO BETTER MY FAMILY LIFE. I WAS A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. I WANTED TO GET OUT OF THAT AND I WAS ABLE TO DO TAT -- THAT. PASSING THIS MORATORIUM WILL KILL MY BUSINESS. I CANNOT AFFORD TO REPLACE FAUCETS AND STOVES AND REFRIGERATORS IF YOU LIMIT ME WHAT I CHARGE FOR RENT. I ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP MY RENT FAIR. I CONSIDER MY TENANTS PART OF MY FAMILY MFB -- I'VE HAD SOME THAT HAVE BEEN WITH ME FOR 15 YEARS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT EVERYBODY. I FEEL BAD FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES AND WORK TOGETHER. AND WORKING APART IS NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. >> KATIE FOLLOWED BY GREG. >> HI. I FEEL REALLY BAD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREETS AND THE PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY. PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY SUFFERING IN OUR CITY. I'M AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT I'M A LOCAL ARTIST. I WORKED IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS I DELIVERED FOOD WEEKLY DURING THE PANDEMIC. I'M LUCKY ENOUGH TO LIVE IN A LITTLE HOME. MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT WHEN WE MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO WHEN HOUSING WAS AFFORDABLE. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. I'M ALSO A SOBER ALCOHOLIC. AFTER BEING IN AND OUT OF JAIL AND IN THE HOSPITAL IN MY EARLY 20s AND GOT SOBER WHEN I WAS 24 AND I DON'T THINK ALIVE OR CLEAN IF I HAD NOT HAD ACCESS TO REHAB AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M SPEAKING TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE -- REGULATING RENT IN OUR STATE. THE STATE IS REALLY, REALLY SUFFERING. THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO EASE SUFFERING. THAT IS YOUR ROLE. THERE'S BEEN TALK OF THE MARKET TONIGHT. YOUR JOB AS THE GOVERNMENT IS TO REGULATE THE INJUSTICES BROUGHT ON BY THE MARKET. PEOPLE UNABLE TO SLEEP, UNABLE TO HAVE XAR -- ANYWHERE TO LIVE. THAT IS AN INJUSTICE OF THE MARKET. SDMRB . >>COUN. BENTON: YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. >> GREG FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE. CATARRHINE FOLLOWED BY CODY. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE AS A TENANT IN ALBUQUERQUE. LAST YEAR I HAD MY SWAMP COOLER RIPPED OUT AND IT LEFT A HOLE FOR OVER NINE MONTHS. I HAD TOILET WATER COMING OUT OF MY BATHROOM SINK THAT MADE MY APARTMENT SMELL FOR OVER SIX MONTHS. AND CURRENTLY I HAVE A LEAK IN THE CEILING OF MY BATHROOM. THEY STILL RAISED THE RENT. AND EVEN THOUGH I ASKED IF THAT WAS NEGOTIABLE WITH EVERYTHING I HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH IN MY APARTMENT I WAS JUST HIT WITH THE HARD NO. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RESPONSIBLE LANDLORD, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE, LIVING IN NEW MEXICO. I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO REGULATION, THERE'S NOWHERE YOU CAN GO. IT'S ALL OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE. ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ARE MANAGED BY THE SAME PROPERTY COMPANY. THERE'S NO COMPETITION, THERE'S NO MARKET. AND THEY'RE CROWDING OUT WHAT COULD BE A RESPONSIBLE LANDLORD. SOMEBODY TRYING TO BUILD THEIR WEALTH, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE MARKET. I THINK WELL-DESIGNED RENT CONTROL CAN RESULT IN HAPPY TENANTS AND RESPONSIBLE LANDLORDS AND GOOD. PLEASE VOTE YES. >> CODY FOLLOWED BY BIANCA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AS MANY OF MY COLLEGE PEERS ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY RENT, MANY DOUBLING OR TRIPLING TO AFFORD RENT. EVEN THOUGH I'M A MANAGER FOR AN INVESTMENT COMPANY IN ALBUQUERQUE, THE PROJECTS, THE GOAL OF THEIR ORGANIZATION IS DEAR TO MY HEART. YET, I HAVE FAITH THAT YOU AS OUR TRUSTED COUNCIL MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE GOAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT COMES WITH IDEAS AND POLICIES SUCH AS RENT CONTROL. NEW YORK ALONE ACCOUNTED FOR OVER THOUSANDS OF APARTMENT SINCE RENT CONTROL HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED. IN NEW YORK THERE'S FOUR TIMES THE NUMBER OF UNITS AS THERE ARE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN NEW YORK CITY. IT SHOWS THE AVRNL RENT GOES UP OVER A FIVE-YEAR TIMELINE IN COMPARISON TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS. DOING WHAT'S TRULY BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST DECISIONS ESPECIALLY THE POLITICIAN WHO HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE'S INTEREST HAS TO BE AGAINST THEIR BEST CHOICE AT TIMES. PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND RENT CONTROL WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. STANDING BEHIND THE COMMUNITY IS WHY YOU'RE TRUSTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. I NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCLUDING MYSELF NEED TO UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR BEST INTEREST NOW MORE THAN EVER. WHICH MEANS VOTING AGAINST MEMORIAL M-22-5. >> BIANCA FOLLOWED BY KARA. KARA, FOLLOWED BY HAYLEN. >> HI, I HAVE BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER AND INVESTOR IN THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA WITH MY HUSBAND FOR OVER 20 YEARS. MORE IMPORTANTLY I LIKE TO IDENTIFY MYSELF AS A MOTHER OF FOUR AND GRANDMOTHER OF THREE WHICH I CONSIDER MY MOST IMPORTANT JOB. HIGH CHILDREN ARE ALL RENTERS. THREE IN OTHER STATES AND ONE IN NEW MEXICO. THEY HAVE VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT THE RAISE IN RENT. HOWEVER AS I TELL THEM LANDLORDS ARE LEFT WITH LITTLE CHOICE IN THIS MATTER. ONE FACTOR IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A RAISE IN FEDERAL AND STATE MINIMUM -- WAGE. WITHOUT RAISING RENT LANDLORDS CANNOT PROVIDE TENANTS WITH CARE FOR PROPERTIES AND MEET THE OTHER EXPANCIES TO MAINTAIN PROPERTIES. ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT THE RENTAL INDUSTRY HAS BEEN A TARGET TO SET UP REGULATION FOR A SITUATION THAT IS FAR FROM THE SOLUTION TO THE ACTUAL PROBLEM. IN FACT, THIS TYPE OF REGULATION IS GOING TO CREATE MORE STRESS AND PROBLEMS RATHER THAN A SOLUTION. IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED YOU WILL FIND OTHER INVESTORS WITH THE FUNDS TO STIMULATE AND BRINGING MORE HOUSING INTO THE STATE OR LEAVE OR GO TO OTHER STATES TO INVEST IN. YOU WILL ALSO FIND MORE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY NOT BEING ADEQUATELY CARED FOR. I URNL YOU TO VOTE -- URGE YOU TO VOTE NO AND STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY AND NOT HANDICAPPING IT MORE WITH THIS REGULATION. >> FOLLOWED BY THERESA. THERESA FOLLOWED BY EVAN. EVAN FOLLOWED BY CHUCK. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, GOOD EVENING. I'M A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I AM A SMALL RENTAL OPERATOR. I FOUNDED A COMPANY WHOSE MISSION IS TO PROVIDE SAFE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY. IF YOU CAN BEAR WITH ME FOR A MOMENT WHILE I TAKE A MOMENT TO BREAK DOWN -- ACTUALLY WHAT -- WE'RE GOING TO BREAK DOWN HOW A DOLLAR IN RENT IS ACTUALLY SPENT AND WHERE THIS MONEY GOES. WE HAVE ONE DOLLAR IN RENT. 14% GOES TO TAXES. TO INCLUDE OUR SCHOOLS, BOYS IN RED, THIN RED STRIPE, GUYS IN THE BACK. TEACHERS. THAT'S 14 CENTS. 16 CENTS GOES TO MAINTENANCE TO INCLUDE UTILITIES AND INSURANCE. 12 CENTS GOES TO CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ROOF, H-VAC. 38 CENTS GOES TO SERVICE THE MORTGAGE. WE HAVE DEBT ON THE PROPERTIES. 38 CENTS OF THAT DOLLARS GOES TO PAY THEMORTGAGE. WHAT WE'RE LEFT IS 10 CENTS. THIS 10 CENTS IS EXPECTED TO STAY IN OUR COMPANY AND BUSINESS AND FAMILIES TO MAYBE ENDS MEET. IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE HAS TO BE A MARGIN. THIS IS WHY I'M IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO WRRBGS-22 TO M-22-5. THANK YOU. >> CHUCK FOLLOWED BY JACOB. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF TNC MANAGEMENT. WE MANAGE ABOUT 2,000 UNITS IN ALBUQUERQUE. WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 205 OWNERS. ROUGHLY TEN UNITS PER OWNER. I LIKE TO DISPEL A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, EVERYBODY LOOKS AT SAYING EVERYBODY IS GREEDY OUTSIDE OWNER OR AN OWNER THAT JUST GOUGES. I GREW UP IN LA. I UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS TO DPROE -- GROW UP WITH NO MONEY. OVER 90% OF THE PEOPLE THAT OWN BUILDINGS IN ALBUQUERQUE ARE SMALL MOM AND POPS THAT WORK TO MAKE ENDS MEET. PUT THOSE PROPERTIES TOGETHER IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME FUTURE THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM. BY CAPPING RENT, THEY CAP THEIR INCOME. THEY CAP THEIR CAPACITY TO PAY THEIR BILLS. EXPENSES HAVE GONE UP OVER 45% IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. UTILITIES HAVE GONE UP OVER 45% SINCE 2019. WE'RE SEEING THESE EXPENSES SKYROCKET. IF WE LOOK AT UTILITY COST FOR GAS, GAS IS GOING TO GO UP THREE TIMES. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> JACOB FOLLOWED BY BECKS. BECKS, FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> GOOD EVENING, IF YOU'RE HERE IN THE CROWD TO SUPPORT THE MEMORIAL PLEASE STAND SO THE COUNCIL CAN SEE OUR NUMBERS. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NEW MEXICO AND I'M CURRENTLY A TENANT IN DISTRIBUTE ONE. IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO USE THE BATHROOM OUTSIDE. IN ALBUQUERQUE WE NEED TO SET THE EXAMPLE BY CARE FOR OUR PEOPLE AND DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE AFOBLINGING HOUSING. MARKET RENT IS NOT AFFORDABLE RENT. ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS ARE SQUEEZED. INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS DON'T WANT TO COME TO ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE RENT CONTROL ISN'T ILLEGAL THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WITH ALL THE CASH WE'RE BEING FLUSHED WITH WE CAN BUILD OUR OWN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO MAKE UP FOR ANY SHORT NL BY PURCHASING AND REFURBISHING TO BE SAFE CLEAN AND DIGNIFIED. WE DON'T NEED A MIDDLEMAN. ON SATURDAY MY 66-YEAR-OLD NEIGHBOR CONFIDED TO ME. HER LANDLORD IS DOUBLING HER RENT FROM $800 TO $1600. SHE CAN'T AFFORD IT AND IS REPUBLICAN UDLY FORCED TO MOVE. STRUGGLING TO FIND A PLACE WITH LESS THAN 1K. CHUCK SHELLEDEN RAISED RENTS. PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT STAKE. WE WANT TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE. WE LOVE THE MEMORIAL THE WAY IT IS. LET'S VOTE ON ENDING THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL AND YES ON THIS MEMORIAL. THANK YOU, EVERYONE. >> DAVID, FOLLOWED BY BRIANNA. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M DAVID. I'M THE CEO OF MESA DEL SOL MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M CURRENTLY BUILDING 314 UNITS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING IN MESA DEL SOL. IF WE PUT OUR THUMB ON THE SCALE BETWEEN LANDLORDS AND TENANT AS THIS BILL WOULD DO THOSE APARTMENTS WILL GOE AWAY. THAT WILL NOT CONTINUE TO BE A VIABLE PROJECT. I HAVE HUNDREDS OF ACRES AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING OF ALL INCOME LEVELS AND AGES AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO BE DEVELOPED. THERE ARE OUTSTANDING FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL PROGRAMS THAT ENCOURAGE AND INCENTIVIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THERE'S NOT NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE. THERE IS A GREAT DEAL THAT CAN BE DONE. LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE. THAT IS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY TO CONSTRUCT THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, IN MY AREA, I NEED TO HAVE A BUS LINE. I NEED TO HAVE UNIVERSITY BUS LINE HAVE A BUS LINE THAT RUNS A REGULAR ROUTE TO MESA DEL SOL SO THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE CAN AFFORD TO GET TO WORK AND HOME AND JOBS AND SCHOOL. THAT'S JUST ONE ITEM THAT IF THE COUNCIL, AND I KNOW YOU DO, WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE'LL BE BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE KIND OF MUNICIPAL FUNCTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BRIANNA FOLLOWED BY JIM. >> HELLO, I'M A TENANT IN DISTRICT SIX. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COUNCIL VOTE TO PASS COUNCIL BILL M-22-5. MY PARTNER AND I ARE BEING EVICTED BECAUSE OUR OUT OF STATE LANDLORD IS SELLING OUR HOME. THIS HAS A HUGE IMPACT OURN LIVES. THE PROCESS THAT IS INCREASINGLY COMPETITIVE. MANY PLACES REQUIRE TENANTS TO MAKE THREE TIMES THE RENTAL PRICE. MINIMUM WAGE IS 1150 IN ALBUQUERQUE. IN THE WEEKS THAT I'VE BEEN SEARCHING I'VE NEVER SEEN A $500 APARTMENT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS AND GRATEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT US THROUGH THE HOUSING CRISIS. THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WHEN YOU VOTE YES TO PASS THIS COUNCIL BILL YOU SUPPORT THE ELDERS, OUR YOUTH, OUR FAMILIES. RENT CONTROL IS VITAL. KEEP NEW MEXICANS IN THEIR HOMES, VOTE FOR PEOPLE NOT PROFIT. PLEASE VOTE TO PASS COUNCIL BILL M-22-5. >> CHEN FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER IN ALBUQUERQUE. I ALSO OWN RENTAL PROPERTIES FOR THE RECORD. I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SUPPLY ISSUE. WE HAVE -- I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT I VOLUNTEER ON THE BOARD. WE HAVE A GREAT ECONOMIC ENGINE KIRTLAND AIR FORCE BASE DOING MARVELOUS THINGS FOR ALBUQUERQUE. THEY HAVE A HOUSING SUPPLY PROBLEM JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE CITY DOES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE IT'S REALLY A SUPPLY PROBLEM. THERE ARE MISSIONS THAT ARE GOING ON AT KIRTLAND AIR FORCE BASE BEING DELAYED BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BRING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S DELAYING THAT ECONOMIC BENEFIT BY NOT HAVING THAT VOWING AVAILABILITY. MESA DEL SOL IS A HOUSING SOLUTION. WE NEED ALL OF THE ABOVE IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE HOUSING SUPPLY IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE'S THE BEGINNING AIRMAN TO SENIOR LEADERS IN THE AIR FORCE TRYING TO GET HERE ALONG WITH SANDIA NATIONAL LABS. THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE 3500 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT YEAR. I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO SUPPORT THIS MEMORIAL AND ALLOW US TO GET BETTER HOUSING TO FLY. THANK YOU. >> ANGELINA FOLLOWED BY CRAIG. >> JOINING ON ZOOM. >> CRAIG FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS. I'M A SMALL PROPERTY OWNER. I HAVE 16 UNITS IN COUNCILOR DAVIS'S DISTRICT. AND I'VE HAD IT FOR 30 YEARS. I'M A RETIREEE FROM SANDIA. I BROUGHT THIS PROPERTY TO SUPPLEMENT SOCIAL SECURITY WHEN I RETIRED. I AM NOT GETTING RICH OFF OF THIS. AND I SPEND A LOT OF MY OWN TIME OVER THERE. HAVING TO FIX THINGS UP AND HAVE TO REFURBINGISH THE PROPERTY, IT'S ALMOST A 50-YEAR-OLD PROPERTY. IT DOES HAVE NEW CABINETS AND NEW APPLIANCES AND THINGS THAT I HAVE TO PUT IN THERE. AND HAVING A RENT CONTROL WOULD VERY MUCH MAKE HAVING THE CAPITAL TO DO THOSE THINGS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. FOR EXAMPLE, CABINETS HAVE GONE UP THREE TIMES JUST IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. IF YOU EVEN GET THEM. SAME THING WITH WHEN I REPLACED AN AIR CONDITIONER, IT'S GONE FROM $7,000 TO $8500. ANYWAY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO AFFORD THOSE THINGS IF THERE'S RENT CONTROL. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY DR. NADIA. >> WELL, I'M SURPRISED. I GUESS THAT'S MINIMUM. ANYWAY. HERE IS THE ISSUE. BUYING AND SELL PROPERTY. THAT'S WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS DOING. FOR EXAMPLE, BUYING IT FOR HIGH PRICE. SELLING FOR BARGAIN. THAT IS WHY IN ZONING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE. -- ESPECIALLY BENTON AND JONES AND OTHERS. AND PENA IS ONE EXAMPLE. LET ME -- WHO ARE THESE DEVELOPERS? ARE THEY NON-PROFIT? NO. THEY'RE ALL FOR PROFIT. SOME DEVELOPERS ARE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH THIS COUNCIL. -- FROM NEW YORK. OTHER DEVELOPERS WHICH IS ISAAC BENTON IS ASSOCIATED. THANK YOU. >> DR. NADIA. FOLLOWED BY ZACHARY. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M A PHYSICIAN AT UNM. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT HOUSING IS HEALTH CARE. WITHOUT A PLACE TO LIVE, WE DON'T HAVE OUR HEALTH. AND I CAN SPEAK AS A PHYSICIAN THAT MANY OF MY PATIENTS ARE HOMELESS. AND WITHOUT A HOME, THEY ARE SICK AND THEY ARE DYING. AND I AM NOT XANLERATINGING. THEY EXAGGERATING. THEY'RE DYING EVERY DAY. THEIR DIABETES IS UNCONTROLLED. HYPERTENSION, SUBSTANCE ABUSE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY'RE LEAVE THAT CLINIC AND THEIR PRIORITY IS SURVIVE. THERE'S NO PLACE TO HEAL, HIDE, OR STORE MEDICATION IF YOU'RE HOMELESS. HOW CAN WE SEPARATE THE RIGHT TO A HOME FROM HEALTH? IT'S THE SAME THING. AND THIS IS CALLED THE SOCIAL DETERMINED OF HEALTH. AS A CIVILIZED SOCIETY, WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS THE RIGHT TO LIVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST. AND I HEAR PEOPLE HERE TALK ABOUT HOW THEY CAN'T AFFORD BASED ON PENSIONS OR SOCIAL SECURITY. WE SHOULD BE FOYTING DECEMBER >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ZACHARY FOLLOWED BY ALICIA. ALICIA FOLLOWED BY MARK. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M GOING TO MAKE IT QUICK. I WAS HOME WHEN THIS CAME TO MY ATTENTION. I AM EVERYTHING. I HAVE A HUSBAND WHO DIED ON THE STREET HOMELESS. I HAVE A SON WHO IS A DRUG ADDICT. I HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I THINK I WANT THEM TO COME TO MY OFFICE AND GO THROUGH MY FILES TO SEE MY OWNERS ARE NOT MONEY HUNGRY PEOPLE. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MEETING IN MY OFFICE NEXT TIME. I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED TO WALK IN. IT MADE ME WANT TO CRY WHEN I SAW THEM. I HAVE WONDERFUL OWNERS. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MY OWNERS. I FEEL LIKE YOU MAKE DECISIONS AND THEN I PAY FOR IT. YOU MADE A SECTION EIGHT EVERYONE HAD TO TAKE SECTION EIGHT. DIDN'T THINK THAT THROUGH BECAUSE I GET MORE HOUSING VOUCHERS. THAT IS AFFECTED MY COMPANY PROFUSELY. I'M TRYING TO HELP TENANTS. I'M TRYING TO HELP HOUSING. TOOK THEM 47 DAYS. MY OWNER HAS A MORTGAGE. MY OWNER CAN'T FIX MY TENANTS STUFF BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GET MONEY FOR 47 DAYS. I'M INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATED BY ALL IT. I ASKED QUICKLY ON WHAT I THOUGHT I WANTED TO SAY OTHER THAN MAKE YOUR DECISIONS WISELY. I'M SO SAD THAT IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE AND HERE. IT'S NOT THAT. YOU CAN GIVE A HOMELESS PERSON A HOME BUT IF HE DOESN'T MAKE HIS MEDICINE, HE'S NOT GOING TO GO HOME. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING NERVOUS. MAKE YOUR DECISIONS WISELY, IT WILL AFFECT EVERYONE. >> MARK FOLLOWED BY JASON. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M A UNITED STATES NAVY VETERAN. I GREW UP WITH A SINGLE MOTHER WHO WAS BEATEN ALONG WITH US. WE LIVED HOUSING INSECURITY. I HAVE 21 PLUS YEARS OF ONE DAY AT A TIME SOBRIETY. OUR TEAM HELPS FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS ACHIEVE HOMEOWNERSHIP. A SWEDISH ECONOMIST THAT CHAIRED THE XHAET FOR MANY YEARS DECLARED THAT RENT CONTROL IS THE BEST WAY TO DESTROY A CITY OTHER THAN BOMBING. MOST PROPERTY OWNERS I KNOW INCLUDING MYSELF ARE CARING, HARDWORKING PEOPLE. THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR TENANTS AND BUSINESS SURVIVAL. THE MORNALITY THE MAJORITY THAT I KNOW ARE NOT FROM OUT OF STATE OR TRYING TO GENTRIFY OUR BEAUTIFUL ALBUQUERQUE. WE PROVIDE SAFE HOUSING AND WORK HARD TO PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TENANTS. RENT CONTROL WILL MAKE ME RECONSIDER IF I WANT TO PROVIDE HOUSING IN THE CITY OR STATE. I'VE MOVED AWAY FROM SAN FRANCISCO DUE TO THESE TYPE OF INTRUSIONS. ASK YOURSELF DO I WANT ALBUQUERQUE TO THRIVE AND DO I THINK RENT CONTROL IS THE ANSWER. I URNL YOU TO VOTE I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON RENT CONTROL. >> JASON FOLLOWED BY AMANDA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. I WANT TO SPEAK OF SOME OF THE OPPOSITION AGAINST RENT CONTROL. OPPONENTS OF THE MUR WILL CITE STUDIES THAT WILL SAY OVERALL DECREASE OF HOUSING SUPPLY DUE TO LACK OF INCENTIVES. WHILE THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT. WE CAN OFFSET THIS BY INVESTING MORE IN PUBLIC HOUSING FUNDED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE STATE ITSELF. WE DO NOT WANT TO RELY ON LANDLORDS BUILDING PROPERTIES. WE CAN DO IT OURSELVES AND TAKE CARE OF. MANY OF THEM HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES THAT COME WITH BEING A SMALL LANDLORD AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. IT IS HARD TO LIVE OFF OF SOMEONE ELSE'S INCOME. IT'S NOT EASY. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY NOT MAKING MUCH MONEY. SO, THESE CONCERNS ARE VALID AND THEY'RE REAL. BUT WE HAVE TO PUT THE TENANTS FIRST BEFORE THE LANDLORDS. MORE THAN EVER, TENANTS NEED SECURITY AND BY IMPLEMENTING RENT CONTROL WE MAKE SURE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE AND SECURITY IN THE HOUSING SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICT NINE. I SPOKE TO MANY RESIDENTS THAT TOLD ME THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THEY HAVE IN THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF INCREASES OF RENT THEY CAN'T KEEP LIVING THERE. THE CHOICE IS SIMPLE, STAND WITH THE INTEREST OF WORK CLASS CITIZENS IN NEW MEXICO OR PROTECT THE HEALTH OF SMALL AND LARGE LANDLORDS. PLEASE PASS THE MEMORIAL. THANK YOU. >> AMANDA FOLLOWED BY ROGER ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, I WEAR MULTIPLE HATS. I'M A COMMERCIAL BROKER AND PROPERTY OWNER. I'VE BEEN IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR MANY YEARS. AND WE CAN ALL AGREE WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS. BUT I THINK IF WE LOOK AT THREE THINGS THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT CAUSED BY THE COST OF RENT. IT'S COSTED BY THE GROWTH. OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WE'VE HAD VERY HOUSING BUILT. OUR HOUSING PERMITS DRUPPED SIGNIFICANT LE I'M EXCITED THAT THIS IS CAUSED BY GROWTH IN THE MARKET AND EXCITED ON WHERE THE MARKET IS HEADED. THE HOUSING CRISIS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN BUILT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, I'M COMING IN AND OUT. YOU LOOK AT WHAT WAS BUILT AMONG MONTGOMERY. IN EARLY 2000s THERE WAS A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY. AND FROM 2000 TO 2019 WE HAD VERY LITTLE CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF MIXED USE AFFORDABLE MULTIHOUSING SINGLE FAMILY START KICKING OFF AGAIN. IT'S A LACK OF SUPPLY. WE NEED MORE HOUSING PROJECTS. IT INCLUDES MARKET RATE, AFFORDABLE AND LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE NEW MEXICANS IN THE MARKETPLACE. AT ALL WAGES, TEACHERS, POLICE OFFICERS FIREMAN. AND I ASK FOR YOU TO VOTE NO FOR RENT CONTROL. >> THANK YOU. ROGER FOLLOWED BY CELESTE. >> I LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX AND I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT. I AM DISABLED AND I URNL ALL MEMBERS OF THE URGE ALL MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE YES. RISING RENT ARE PARTICULARLY HARD ON PEOPLE WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND FIXED INCOMES. FOR THOSE ON SSI, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT $800 A MONTH. SSDI USUALLY PAYS LESS. SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE ALLOWED YOU ARE SUPPLEMENTED BY SNAP. AND IN ALBUQUERQUE, THE FAIR MARKET RENT IS $945 FOR A ONE-BEDROOM. THE AVERAGE RENT IS ABOUT $1300. TYPICAL SSI AND SSDI BENEFITS. IT IS CLEAR THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND FIXED INCOMES ARE DRIVEN INTO HOMELESSNESS. MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WERE HIT HARD BY THE COVID PANDEMIC. ADD TO THAT THE EVER-INCREASING AMOUNT OF RENT IN ALBUQUERQUE WHICH FORCED MANY DISABLED PEOPLE INTO HOMELESSNESS. HOUSING IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE. STAND WITH DISABLED RESIDENTS AND VOTE YES TO DEMOCRACY. WE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO ENACT RENT CONTROL IF NEEDED. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> CELESTE FOLLOWED BY LORENZO. LORENZO FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON. RHIANNON FOLLOWED BY MATTHEW. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I REPRESENTING -- I HAVE ALREADY STATED OUR OPPOSITION TO THE MEMORIAL EARLIER IN THE MONTH. I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THE REALITY OF RENT CONTROL'S IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. TO PUT IT PLAINLY, THIS IS A BAND-AID FOR SOMETHING THAT REALLY ONLY HAS ONE SOLUTION. INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF ALL HOUSING. AS YOU HEARD FROM THE MORTGAGE FINANCE AUTHORITY PRESENTATION TWO WEEKS AGO, BECAUSE THIS IS A SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE, THE SOLUTION TO OUR AFFORDABILITY ISSUE IS TO BUILD. WITH JUST THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS MEMORIAL I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR MEMBERS THAT POTENTIAL INVESTORS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPOOKS OUT OF DOING BUSINESS. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD. NOW IS THE TIME WE SHOULD INCOLONEL OUTSIDE INVESTMENT AND GROW OUR ECONOMY AND ADD TO THE HOUSE INVENTORY. SHOULD THIS MEMORIAL PASS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND MOVE TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR CONSIDERATION DEVELOPMENT WOULD STOP. BY NOW, THE ARTICLE BY IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL HAS BEEN SHARED WITH YOU. IT IS UNDENIABLE PROOF THAT ONCE RENT CONTROL IS INTRODUCED DEVELOPMENT SHUTTERS AS EVIDENCED IN THEIR STEEP DECLINE IN BUILDING PERMITS. I KNOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER ON ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO INCOLONEL DEVELOP -- ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT OF MORE HOUSING. WE'VE MADE EBS LNT HEAD >> LORENZO IS READY. >> PLEASE. MATTHEW, FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> HI, I AM AN OTHER THAN OF A SMALL FOUR PLEX OF TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE OWNED SINCE 2007 AND STARTING BACK THEN MY RENT WAS AT $600. AND TODAY, THE RENT IS $800. THAT IS 2% INCREASE INFLATIONARY INCREASE IN MY RENT TO THIS TIME. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE LARGE RENT THAT WOULD NEED ANY KIND OF RENT CONTROL. THE OTHER THING IS THAT ANY TIME I HAVE A TENANT THAT NEEDS TO LEAVE A GOOD LEVER FOR A SMALL OWNER LIKE ME IS TO RAISE THE RENT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CHOOSE TO LEAVE. IF I TERMINATE THE LEASE, AT THE END OF THE -- I TYPICALLY TEND TO TAKE $2000 TO FIX MY APARTMENT. WHEREAS WHEN THE TENANT LEAVE I ONLY SUFFER HALF-MONTH'S RENT LOSS. I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR ANY KIND OF RENT CONTROL ESPECIALLY ON SMALL LANDOWNERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PATRICK FOLLOWED BY LORENZO. >> I'M A TENANT AND RENTER IN DISTRICT SEVEN. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS MORE AND MORE RARE FOR WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE IN THE CITY. AS RENT CONTINUES TO CLIMB AND WAGES STAY STAGNANT THE STRUGGLE TO GET A QUALITY STANDARD OF LIVING IS INCREASINGLY APPARENT. I FOUND IT MORE DIFFICULT EVERY MONTH TO PAY FOR RENT, UTILITIES, MEDICAL BILLS, PHONE BILLS AND ALL CENTRAL FOOD AND HYGIENIC ITEMS WITHOUT FEELING SUFFOCATED UNDER THE CONSTANT PRESSURE OF RENT AND INFLATION. AND -- END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL TO ENSURE A SAFE FUTURE FOR ALL ALBUQUERQUE CITIZEN. INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING DOES NOT INCREASE THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING. IT IS ONE LIE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THIS MARKET. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE GROWTH THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE STRUGGLES THAT LOW INCOME WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE FACING AND LANDLORDS SHOULD NOT EXIST IN THIS KIND OF SYSTEM WHERE ONLY ONE PARTICULAR DPRUP DYING GROUP FOR GROUP ARE BEING FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES. >> LORENZO FOLLOWED BY CHERYL. >> GOOD. I ORGANIZE WITH THE SAFE HOUSING PROJECT. I URGE CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON MEMORIAL AND PUSH THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. IT IS ONLY HURTING WORKING CLASS PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WHILE BENEFITS BUSINESS AND CORPORATE INTEREST WHICH WE HAVE HEARD PLENTY OF PERSPECTIVE FROM BUSINESS INTEREST TONIGHT. WE SHOULD BE PUTTING PEOPLE OVER PROFITS. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. THE CITY COUNCIL'S JOB IS TLOOK OUT -- WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS A POPULAR POLICY THAT BENEFIT AS HIGH NUMBER OF CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT WOULD ALSO SHOW THAT THE COUNCIL HELPS THE PEOPLE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR. WHATEVER SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY THAT GET IN THE WAY ARE VERY MUCH WORTH WORKING THROUGH. HOUSING IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT AND WE SHOULD WORK OUR BEST TO WORKING FOR OUR PEOPLE IN NEW MEXICO. IT TARGETS PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND LGBTQ. YOU SHOULD VOTE YES WHICH WOULD WORK TO ENABLE DEMOCRATIC DECISION MAKING. THIS MAY NOT GAIRNT GUARANTEE REPEAL BUT A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR CITIZENS NOT BUSINESS AND CORPORATE INTERESTS. THANK YOU. >> CHERYL FOLLOWED BY ZIA. >> HELLO, I LIVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE MEMORIAL TO RELEASE THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. M-22-5. ACCORDING TO LAW INSIDERS, QUOTE, ESSENTIAL COMMODITIES MEANS THOSE ITEMS, THE AVAILABILITY OF WHICH IS CONSIDERED VITAL FOR DOMESTIC USE OR CONSUMPTION. THAT'S AN ESSENTIAL COMMODITY. I THINK IT'S GENERALLY UNDERSTOOD HOUSING IS VITAL TO LIVE AND FUNCTION IN OUR SOCIETY. OTHER VITAL COMMODITIES INCLUDE WATER, FUEL, LIGHT, POWER, AND FOOD. IT SEEMS THAT MANY VITAL COMMODITIES NEED TO HAVE AND DO OPERATE UNDER CERTAIN REGULATION. THERE NEED TO BE METHOD TO DETER PREDATORY PRACTICES. YES, ALLOW FOR SUCCESSFUL OPERATION AND FUNCTION OF BUSINESS. I THINK WE SHOULD RELEASE THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL SO WE CAN LOOK AT SOLUTIONS TO THE INBALANCE THAT EXISTS. REMEMBERING THIS MEMORIAL DOES NOT IMPOSE RENT CONTROL, IT SIMPLY ALLOWS FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MIA FOLLOWED BY AGIONA. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING TO MY DISTRICT COUNCILOR COUNCILOR JONES. AS AMERICANS WE DON'T LIKE THE THOUGHT THAT BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE. BUT THEY DO. MANY PEOPLE ARE HOMELESS FOR REASONS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RESPONSIBILITY OR BAD LIFE CHOICES OR CHARACTER DEFICITS. I RECOGNIZE THAT REALTORS AND LANDLORDS ARE EXPERIENCING COST INCREASES BUT SO DO WE. I ACKNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE TO MAKE HARD CHOICES BUT SO DO WE. MY OWN HARD CHOICES INCLUDED GETTING RID OF OUR CAR, CANCELING OUR ANNIVERSARY PLANS AND MORE TO MAKE RENT. NOW, WE'RE LOSING THE APARTMENT ANYWAY. IN WHAT WAY IS ANY OF THIS REASONABLE? YES, THERE'S NEW CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING. IT WILL BY AND LARGE NOT BE AIMED AT MY DEMOGRAPHIC. YET THE SOLUTIONS ARE BEING SOUGHT BUT ADVOCATING ARE NOT INVITE TODAY THE TABLE. HUMAN NEEDS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS. AND SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS HAS BEEN FAILING TO MEET HUMAN NEEDS SINCE THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION. THERE IS NO REASON WHY RENT INCREASES SHOULD EXCEED THE RATE OF INCREASE IN THE GENERAL COST OF LIVING. ALTHOUGH THIS RESOLUTION BINDS NO ONE TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING IT DOES SHOW POLITICAL COURAGE. OTHER CITIES ARE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE THE VANGUARD. THAT CAN BE ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> AVIOLA FOLLOWED BY CELESTE. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I BOUGHT MY FIRST HOUSE BY WAITING TABLES AT TWO RESTAURANTS AND LIVING IN A 300 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENT. HOMEOWNERSHIP CHANGED MY LIFE FOR THE PERT. AS A SINGLE PERSON, IMMIGRANT, BECOMING A HOMEOWNER ALLOWED ME TO OFFICIALLY BECOME A NEW MEXICAN. I HAVE ONE RENTAL UNIT. MY TENANTS ARE MY NEIGHBORS. RENT CONTROL WOULD PROHIBIT ME FROM TAKING CARE OF MY PROPERTY. NEGATIVELY IMPACT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH MY TENANTS. AND CAUSE VALUES TO GO DOWN AND MANY OTHER NEGATIVE IMPACTS. I HEAR BOTH SIDES TODAY. AND FEEL FOR BOTH. BUT WE NEED TO TREAT THE SYMPTOM AND -- UNFORTUNATELY, RENT CONTROL WILL BACKFIRE ON THE PEOPLE THAT WANT ITTEN PLACE. IT'S NOT THE ANSWER. ONLY MORE UNITS WILL BRING EQUILIBRIUM TO SUPPLY AND DEMAND ALLOWING FOR THE RENTAL MARKET TO NATURALLY STABILIZE. >> CELESTE FOLLOWED BY SURGE. >> HELLO, I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO VOTE YES ON THE MEMORIAL ASKING THE NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE TO END THE PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL. ALBUQUERQUE TENANTS HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING DUE TO RENT HIKES. MANY FEAR BEING PUSHED INTO HOMELESSNESS. INCLUDING ELDERLY PEOPLE ON SOCIAL COURT. RENT HAS GONE UP BY 40% IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE 30-YEAR PROHIBITION ON RENT CONTROL PREVENTS THE COMMUNITY FROM DEALING WITH OUR HOUSING CRISIS. ENDING THE PROHIBITION WON'T IMMEDIATELY END RENT CONTROL. WE KNOW AS CITY COUNCIL YOU CARE ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS INCLUDING THE 40% OF US WHO ARE TENANTS. I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE YES ON THIS MEMORIAL TO SHOW THAT SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> SURGE FOLLOWED BY MARK. >> GOOD EVENING, I AM ON THE FACULTY OF UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO SCHOOL OF LAW. I TEACH AND PRACTICE IN THE AREA OF LANDLORD AND TENANT LAW. I'M A PRESIDENT OF SMALL NON-PROFIT. I HERE ONLY ON MY PERSONAL CAPACITY TO SUPPORT THIS MEMORIAL. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE ALLEGED HORRORS OF RENT CONTROL. YOU'VE ALSO HEARD LOT ABOUT THE NEED FOR INNOVAIVE AND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW IS IT'S ASKING SANTA FE TO KEEP ITS HANDS OFF OF ALBUQUERQUE'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO ITS OWN HOUSING NEEDS. CAREFULLY CREATIVELY. ALBUQUERQUE IS A HOME RULE JURISDICTION. THAT MEANS ALBUQUERQUE HAS THE POWER TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS TRULY LOCAL WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM SANTA FE. IT'S HARD TO THINK OF ANYTHING MORE LOCAL THAN HOUSING. THIS COUNCIL IS CHARGED WITH FINDING SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM IT'S FACING NOW. SANTA FE PASSED A BILL IN 1992 WITH THE INTENT TO TAKE SOME OF THE POWER AWAY FROM ALBUQUERQUE. ANYBODY THAT THINKS ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD HANDLE THE LOCAL CRISIS WITH A LOCAL RESPONSE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS MEMORIAL. THERE'S A LOT OF RHETORIC AND MISCONCEPTION AROUND A BOOGIE MAN THAT FOLKS ARE CALLING RENT CONTROL. I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT RENT CONTROL IS AND HOW IT CAN BE PART OF A GOOD STRATEGY. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. MARK FOLLOWED BY BRETT. PLEASE UNMUTE. YOU'RE MUTED. >> HELLO, I HAVE HERD BOTH SIDES. I AM MUCH APPRECIATIVE. IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE. IT DOES SOUND LIKE WE NEED MORE HOUSING. I HAVE JUST UNDER 70 UNITS IN THE UPTOWN AREA. I'VE BEEN A LANDLORD FOR 30 YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT TEN CENTS ON THE DOLLAR IS WHAT I SEE. >> WE LOST HIM. GREG FOLLOWED BY JODY. GREG. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M HERE OPPOSING THIS MEMORIAL. IN 2020 I PERCHED THREE FOUR PLEXES IN THE VICINITY OF CENTRAL AND WYOMING, YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I SPENT THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE SAVINGS ON THEM. I DEPEND ON THEM FOR INCOME AS A RETIREE. I DON'T HAVE A PENSION INCOME OTHER THAN SOCIAL SECURITY THIS IS MY FUTURE WHICH IS SO TRUE FOR SO MANY OF US. WHEN I PURCHASED THE UNITS THEY WERE IN TERRIBLE CONDITION. I REPLACED LEAKY ROOFS, NON-FUNCTIONING SWAMP COOLERS. NON-OPERABLE WINDOWS. REPAIRED CABINETS. INVESTED OVER $100,000 AFTER PURCHASE JUST TO MAKE THEM LIVABLE FOR MY TENANTS. AVERAGE RENT ARE AROUND $740 A MONTH AS OF OCTOBER 1. WOF MY -- ONE OF MY FOUR-PLEXES HASN'T MADE A NICKEL IN TWO YEARS. MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS NON-PAYING TENANTS. IN MY THREE YEARS I'VE HAD TO DO SEVEN EVICTIONS. THEY DON'T GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE, THEY JUST STOP PAYING. BY THE TAME -- TIME I GET THEM OUT I LOST THREE TO FOUR MONTHS RENT AND SPEND AN AVERAGE OF $2,000 TO REPAIR. MY PROPERTY MANAGER DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO GIVE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> I OPPOSE THIS MEMORIAL. THANK YOU. >> GREG FOLLOWED BY JODY. >> I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO PRACTICE AND TIME IT. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS. BOTH OF A LANDLORD AND A TENANT. I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO WRITE THAT MONTHLY CHECK. WHY SINGLE THEM OUT? PRICES HAVE JUMPED IN VIRTUALLY EVERY AREA OF THE ECONOMY. IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF. FOOD, ENERGY, COST OF MATERIALS. THE COST OF REPAIRS. WAN -- WAGES FOR EMPLOYEES. WHO WILL BUILD ALL THESE HOUSES WE NEED? WHO IS GOING TO REFURBISH ALL THESE BUILDINGS? NOT THE CITY. HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO ATTRACT DEVELOPERS BY LIMITING HOW MUCH THEY CAN EARN? WHAT OTHER PROFESSIONS ARE YOU GOING TO IMPOSE A SALARY CAP ON? LAWYERS? DOCTORS? SOMEWHAT THE LOGIC WHAT IS THE LOGIC OF PUNISHING THOSE WHO CAN BEST ABLE PROVIDE SOLUTIONS AND NOT JUST BAND-AIDS WITH THIS PROBLEM? RENT CONTROL IS BANNED BY 75% OF THE STATES IN THE COUNTRY. WITH GOOD REASON. LOOK HOW WELL IT'S WORKED IN L A, SAN FRANCISCO. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. JODY, WE HAVE YOU AS AN ATTENDE. I PROMOTED YOU TO PANELIST. ANGELINA. >> HI, I'M A MEMBER OF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT ALONG WITH THE CARPENTER'S UNITED STATES IT'S INTERESTING THE -- I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF APARTMENTS IN MY DISTRICT THAT TNC OWNS THAT ARE IN COMPLETE -- THERE'S ONE ON ZUNI AND CENTRAL. IT'S A MOSTLY CONDEMNED BUILDING THAT PEOPLE STILL LIVE IN. IT'S DISGUSTING AND INFIRSTED WITH ROACHES. AND THEY'RE CHARGING OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO RENT. IT'S FALLING APART LIKE MANY OTHER COMPLEXES. YEAH, WHY SHOULD THE PROPERTY MANAGER OF THIS COMPLEX UNJUSTIFIABLY INCREASE THE RENT WHILE THE RESIDENTS SEE NO IMPROVEMENT? THERE IS A LOT OF SMALL LANDLORDS TALKING WHO SAY THEY HAVE JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO RAISE THE RENT. THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED IF THE REASONS ARE JUSTIFIABLE. THE RENT CONTROLS -- THIS IS THE COMMUNITY ANSWER. IT DOESN'T ALLOW THE LANDLORDS TO RAISE THE RENT UNJUSTIFIABLY AT LIKE AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE AT THE MERCY OF THEIR LANDLORDS. WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S NOT A SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE. IT'S ABOUT POWER AND -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> JODY, CAN YOU ACCEPT MY INVITATION TO BECOME PANELIST? >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROCEED WITH THE MEETING. >> GO AHEAD. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. I'M GOING TO -- THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE BILL AND START WITH THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE HEARD SO MUCH MISINFORMATION TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT WITH WHAT THIS BILL ACTUALLY DOES. IT'S REALLY NOT A BILL. IT'S A MEMORIAL. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY CREATING RENT CONTROL. I DO THINK, I'M AN ECONOMIST. I UNDERSTAND HOW MARKETS WORK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE THINK THROUGH WHAT RENT CONTROL MEANS. UNDER THE STATE STATUTE, WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT RENT CONTROL OR RENT STABILIZATION WHICH IS REALLY, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE COME TO ME AND SAY WE WANT OLD SCHOOL RENT CONTROL LIKE IT'S 1972 IN NEW YORK CITY. OR LIKE ST. PAUL JUST DID WHICH IS A 3% CAP ON ALL RENT FOR EVERYONE WHICH IS PRETTY EXTREME. AGAIN, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAYING THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. WHAT I'M HEARING AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT WE HAVE A CRISIS IN OUR CITY THAT IS A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. AND YES, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING. BUILDING MORE HOUSING TAKES A COUPLE OF YEARS. PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF THEIR UNITS TODAY. TODAY. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT INCREASES COMING ON. I'VE GOT CHARLEY WHO HAS OVER 30% INCREASE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I HAVE MARK WHO HAD AN 18% INCREASE LAST YEAR. I HAD LISA WHO HAD A 20% INCREASE LAST YEAR. JUST AS AN ASIDE CHARLEY HAD HIS FEES GO UP 28.5%. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF HOUSING TODAY. SO, WHILE I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN THE SHORT-TERM WE NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN JUST PLANS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. WE NEED ACTUAL WORK TO HELP THESE FOLKS REMAIN HOUSED BECAUSE ONCE SOMEONE GOES UNHOUSED, IT IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO COME BACK. AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE WANTS MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. SO, AGAIN, I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE LIKED FOR THIS PROPOSAL TO PASS CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT. I WOULD WITH LIKE SEE THE RENT CONTROL MORATORIUM AT THE STATE LIFTED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION IN THIS BODY ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE. ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS RENT STABILIZATION FOR OUR MOST DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORS. PERHAPS JUST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PERHAPS JUST FOR PEOPLE BEING PRICED OUTRIGHT NOW TODAY. AND THAT CAN BE COUPLED WITH FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO HELP THOSE LANDLORDS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THAT SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW GOAL OF 5,000 NEW UNITS THAT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY BY PRESIDENT BENTON AND MAYOR KELLER. WHEN WE REACH THAT, I THINK IT'S A TIME TO REVISIT ANY KIND OF RENT STABILIZATION POLICY WE HAVE. AGAIN, TODAY PEOPLE ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF HOUSING WHICH IS AN ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT HAS AGREED THAT IS IMPORTANT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THIS ACTUALLY WAS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CERTAINLY A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THIS. NUMBER ONE, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS IS A MEMORIAL, I THINK IT'S BEEN A CALLED -- IT'S BEEN SAID THIS IS NOT GOING TO IMPOSE ANY KIND OF RENT CONTROL AND IT'S ONLY FOR DISCUSSION. MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS IS A POLICY STATEMENT BY THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. A POLICY STATEMENT THAT EVEN WITH US JUST DISCUSSING THIS TONIGHT, THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT IT, BUT IT ACTUALLY MIGHT BE A SERIOUS MEMORIAL I BELIEVE IT IS HARMED INVESTMENT IN THIS CITY. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS TRULY GOING TO HELP LIFT PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY AND PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INCREASE HOUSING STARTS IS WHEN PEOPLE MAKE -- THEY TAKE THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY AND REPUTATION AND INVEST IN OUR CITY. SO, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DETRIMENTAL TO OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WE SEE EXAMPLES OF IT. ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. IT'S HURTING US ALREADY. I HAVE THERE'S GOOD INTENTIONS. GOOD INTENTIONS DESIGNED TO HELP, THIS IN PARTICULAR, IS ACTUALLY DOING THE OPPOSITE. IT HURTS MORE THAN IT WILL HELP. I BELIEVE IT WILL HURT SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE RENTERS IN THE CITY. THERE'S BEEN SOME GREAT SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT WE DO. SO IF YOUR DESIRE IS MORE HOUSING, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE ALL AGREE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE AND THERE'S GREAT PROPOSALS. WE'VE HAD GREAT PRESENTATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS. TALKED ABOUT SPEEDING UP INSPECTIONS AND APPROVALS. INCENTIIZING INVESTMENT IN THE CITY. IT WAS SAID SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSALS THAT CAME OUT TODAY WERE ACTUALLY GOOD STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE ALSO -- I THINK WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT OTHER STATE AND WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. WHETHER IT BE ST. PAUL, AND WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THOSE FACTS. AND WE HAVE TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER. WE THINK OF LA COUNTY WHO PUT RENT CONTROL IN 2018. BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND IN THE SAME CONVERSATION WE TALK ABILITY HOMELESSNESS YET IN LA COUNTY THERE WAS 20,000 MORE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOMELESS IN LA COUNTY SINCE 2018 SINCE THEY IMPLEMENTED RENT CONTROL. THE HIGHEST IN AMERICA. SO WE CAN'T IGNORE THOSE FACTS AND CERTAINLY BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION. I THINK THE INTENTIONS ARE GOING TO BUT EXTREMELY MISGUIDED. I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT? ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT'S IMPRESSIVE HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP TONIGHT. AND I THINK THAT NO MATTER HOW THIS VOTE GOES THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT HAS WON BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND I THINK WE HEARD THAT. FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SPOKE TONIGHT. EARLIER TODAY, THE MAYOR AND COUNCILOR BENTON HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT IN A COMPLETE SWEEP OF NEW PROPOSALS TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED AND STOP SOME OF THE PREDATORY PRACTICES HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AGAINST RENTERS. I FULLY EXPECT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT TOOK THE TIME TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CRISIS WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ENTIRE SWEEP. IN THAT WAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE. YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. AND YOU REALLY BROUGHT AN ISSUE FORWARD THAT'S IMPORTANT AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED. I'M PROUD TO HAVE FACILITATED THAT DISCUSSION. I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH NOT MY WORDS BUT WORDS THAT ALL OF THE COUNCILORS GOT FROM TALIA, WHO IS A, CONCERNED CITIZEN, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, AND INVESTMENT OWNER. SHE GAVE ME PERMISSION TO USE HER NAME. THIS IS WHAT SHE WROTE TO ALL OF THE COUNCILORS. THE SOLUTION TO THE HOUSING CRISIS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE A MULTIPRONGED APPROACH. WE ALL AGREE ONE PRIMARY SOLUTION IS MORE HOUSING WHETHER BUILT BY THE GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE INVESTORS, OR BOTH. WHILE MORE INVENTORY IS CRUCIAL TO A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, THERE ARE IMMEDIATE MEASURES THAT MUST BE TAKEN TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM ENDING UP ON THE STREETS. WE CANNOT SOLELY FOCUS ON THE LONG-TERM. PRIORITIZING THE CONCERNS OF INVESTORS WHILE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO LITERALLY BECOME HOMELESS. IT IS UNCONCHINABLE TO THINK THE FORMER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE LATTER. AND VOTING AGAINST THIS MEMORIAL WOULD TELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT IS WHO YOU FAVOR. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST A QUESTION BEFORE WE CLOSE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION HASN'T WEIGHED IN ON THIS. WOULD YOU SAY WHETHER THE ADMINISTRATION IS FOR OR AGAINST THIS MEMORIAL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTOR PIERCE IN THE AUDIENCE. I WOULD LIKE HER TO COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHO IS GOING TO COMMENT? >> I BELIEVE SHE'S ON ZOOM. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS FOR THIS OR NOT. >>COUN. BENTON: I DON'T SEE THE DIRECTOR. >> SHE'S ON ZOOM. >>COUN. BENTON: OH, SHE'S ON ZOOM? PLEASE LET'S HEAR FROM HER. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO RUN DOWN WITH THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR LEWIS, OVERALL THE CITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEED TO HAVE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE KNOW AS WE HEARD TONIGHT AND WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST WE DO NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT THROUGH THIS BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THAT WAS AN AFFIRMATIVE THAT THE MAYOR IS SUPPORTIVE. THE GOOD THING IS THE MAYOR CAN'T VETO THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE GOT GO TO A VOTE. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. WE'LL -- GO TO ROLL CALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT FAILS. 2-7 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCIL WILL TAKE A DINNER BREAK. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. WE ARE ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS KRISTEN. NEXT UP IS CHRISTY. >>COUN. BENTON: IS CHRISTY IN THE ROOM? >> THAT LEADS US TO ZOOM. THE PERSON IS NOT AN ATTENDEE. >>COUN. BENTON: NOBODY ELSE IS ON ZOOM? OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES THAT PORTION OF THE MEETING. WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? I DID SEND A FEW. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF GETTING ANSWERS TO THEM. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL MOVE PAST THAT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. WE'LL GO TO THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO PULL 0-43 OUT OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND PLACE IT ON THE NOVEMBER 7th COUNCIL AGENDA. IT'S ADOPTING A NEW CARTICAL IN CHAPTER NINE OF THE REVISED ORDINANCE OF HEALTH SAFETY AND SANITATION TO BE KNOWN AS THE SAFE OUT DOOR SPACE OPERATOR'S PERMIT. ESTABLISHING A PERMIT AND PERMITTING FEE. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WITH ANOTHER CHANGE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION TO PLACE M-26- 7 -- ASKING THE NEW MEXICO LEGISLATURE TO REINSTATE QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. >>COUN. JONES: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND. GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE WILL GO TO COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND MYSELF. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING M-7 AND PLACING IT ON THE NOVEMBER 7th COUNCIL AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE URGES THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 56th LEGISLATURE TO ADOPT LEGISLATION ADOPTING FOR THE CREATION OF REGIONAL HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT ARE INDEPENDENT GOVERNMENT UNITS. >>COUN. DAVIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILORS, I BELIEVE WE DID DISTRIBUTE THIS. WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND THIS IS JUST SETTING THE STAGE FOR CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A TRUE REGIONAL HOUSING AUTHORITY WHICH WE'VE REALLY NEVER HAD. WE'VE HAD CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND COUNTY, THEY DO GREAT WORK WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. THEY HAVE VERY LIMITED AUTHORITY. THIS MIGHT BE A WAY TO BUILD THE CAPACITY. THAT'S THE INTENTION. THIS IS A LATE INTRODUCTION. THIS WOULD BE A SUSPENSION OF THE RULES REQUIRING A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. AND WE'LL MOVE TO AN ADDITIONAL ONE. THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR JONES, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING O-49 AND REFER TO THE GOVERNMENT FOINS -- ESTABLISHING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMISSION. THIS IS CO-SPONSOR WITH COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS RULES SUSPENSION. CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. JONES: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. THANK YOU. GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE CITY AND YOUR COMMUNITY. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL GO TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S A MEETING OF THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS ON MONDAY OCTOBER 24 AT 5 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROOM ON THE NINTH FLOOR. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS AC-22-10. NOB HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINERS DECISION TO APPROVE A PERMIT FOR A WALL PERMIT. MAJOR WALL PERMIT FOR A COURTYARD WALL FOR BROADMOOR ADDITION AT 4200 BROCKMONT. AND WE'LL EXPLAIN THIS APPEAL. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE ISSUE IN THE APPEAL IS WHETHER A WALL PERMIT MAJOR SHOULD BE APPROVED FOR A SIX-FOOT TALL. THE EXAMINE APPROVED THE WALL AND THE NOB HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALED ARGUING THAT THE HOMEOWNER APPLICANT HAS NOTIFIED TWO OF THE IDO CRITERIA FOR TALLER FRONT YARD WALLS. SPECIFICALLY I'LL REFER TO THESE AS THE 20% RULE AND THE WINDOW RULE. THE COUNCIL REFERRED TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER WHO RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE DECISION TO APPROVE THE WALL. THE FIRST APPEAL ISSUE IS THE 20% RULE WHICH REQUIRES AT LEAST 20% OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN30 MUST ALSO HAVE THE SAME HEIGHT. THERE'S 11 LOTS WITHIN THAT MEASUREMENT. AND THERE'S TWO THAT HAVE FRONT YARD WALLS TALLER THAN THREE FEET. THEY CLAKTED THE NUMBER OF LOTS TO SATISFY THE 20% RULE. IT COMES OUT TO 2.2 WHICH HE THEN ROUNDED TO TWO LOTS BEING REQUIRED TO SATISFY THE 20% RULE. THE OPPONENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HOWEVER ARGUES THAT TWO LOTS CONSTITUTE ONLY 18% OF 11 BECAUSE TWO DIVIDED BY 11 EQUALS 18. THE FULL TEXT OF THE IDO FOR THE 20% RULE STATES AT LEAST 20% OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THAT 330 FEET DISTANCE MUST HAVE FRONT YARD WALLS OVER THREE FEET. THE ZHE USED A DIFFERENT CALCULATION IF WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OUT OF ELEVEN CALCULATION THAT EQUALS 18.8 WHICH IS NOT 20%. THE LUHO NEVERTHELESS FOUND THE CALCULATION AND FINDING WERE RASHINABLE, REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE PRACTICES. BUT NEITHER THE ZHE OR LUHO ADDRESSED THAT LUMG -- LANGUAGE INRULE AND WHETHER IT'S SATISFIED BY THE CHOSEN CALCULATION METHOD. THE LUHO DID NOTE THE ZHE HAS REASONABLE DISCRETION IN DESCRIBING THE METHOD TO CALCULATE THE 20% RULE. AND FOUND THIS METHOD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE USUAL PRACTICE OTHER WALL PERMIT APPLICATION. IN TERMS OF STATUTORY INTERPRETATION WHEN THERE'S AMBIGUITY IN THE LAW AND INTERPRETED IN THE LAW IN A PARTICULAR WAY THEN THAT ADMINISTRATIVE VIEW BECOMES THE LAW. THE ZHE DID NOT ERROR IN THE 20% RULE AND THEY DID NOT SHOW IT'S ARBITARY OR CAPRICIOUS. THERE'S TESTIMONY FROM THE DEPARTMENTING DEPARTMENT THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO CALCULATE INRULE. THE SECOND APPEAL ISSUE IS THE WINDOW RULE WHICH STATES WALLS CANNOT BLOCK THE VIEW OF ANY PORTION OF ANY WINDOW ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THE ZHE FOUND THE APPLICANT PRESENTED EVIDENCE THAT THE WALL DOES NOT BLOCK WINDOWS. IT WAS FOUND SUFFICIENT. THE PARTIES SUBMITTED COMPETING EVIDENCE BUT THE PARTY FOUND THE VIDEOS INACCURATELY DEPICT THE WINDOW. THE LUHO RECOMMENDS UPHOLDING THE DECISION. THE LUHO FOUND THE 20% RULE CALCULATION WAS RATIONAL, REASONABLE, AND CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE ZHE CALCULATES THE RULES. AND LIKEWISE WAS FOUND BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD. THEY CONCLUDED THE APPELLANTS HAVE NOT MET THE BURDEN THAT A MISTAKE OCCURRED THAT WOULD RESULT IN REVERSING THE DECISION. THIS IS ACCEPT OR REJECT. THE COUNCIL'S OPTIONS ARE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDING OR ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS OR REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION IN WHICH CASE THE MATTER WOULD BE SCHEDULED BEFORE A FULL HEARING AT OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE QUESTION I HAVE, YOU SAID IT'S 2.2 LOTS. WHAT IF YOU ADDED THE THIRD LOT? WHAT DOES THE PERCENTAGE COME TO? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE 27%. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE GO FROM 18 TO 27% ADDING ONE MORE LOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. THIS IS A MATTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL REAFFIRMED THE WALL RULE IN OUR RECENT IDO UPDATE. THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE OR ADOPT IT AND THE COUNCIL REJECTED THOSE AND REAFFIRMED THIS RULE. MY INITIAL INCLINATION WAS TO REMAND THIS BACK AND HAVE THE HEARING OFFICER DEAL WITH THE QUESTION OF LESS THAN OR UP TO WHATEVER THE QUALIFYING LANGUAGE THAT THEY SKIRTED. AND FEEL LIKE IF WE WERE TO SEND IT BACK IT WILL BE BACK HERE AGAIN. THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WE SEE MORE AND MORE WALL RULE QUESTIONS COMING UP AS FOLKS ARE DOING IT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE COUNCIL MAKE A STATEMENT AND WHAT WE INTEND WHEN WE READ THE IDO. I'M MAKING A MOTION WE REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION WITH SCHEDULE THIS FOR A FUEL HEARING SO THE COUNCIL SO WE CAN WEIGH IN ON HOW THE WALL RULE IS INTERPRETED HOPEFULLY FOR THE FINAL TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL PROVIDE THE SECOND FOR THAT MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL EXPLAIN. I DO AGREE WITH THIS. I WAS ONE OF THE ONES STANDING FOR THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE IN THE OLD ZONING CODE THAT WAS CARRIED OVER INTO IDO. BUT, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HEARING THIS. AND KEEP DISCUSSING THEM UNTIL WE'VE FIGURED IT OUT. WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED FOR DISCUSSION. TO ACCEPT -- EXCUSE ME, REJECT WHICH WITH WILL SEND IT TO US FOR A FULL HEARING. ALL RIGHT. CORRECT? OKAY. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL. DOES SOMEONE ELSE -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS COUNCILOR BASSAN. SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LUHO FINDINGS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MY ONLY DISCUSSION IS IT LOOKS LIKE THE LUHO HAS BEEN TRYING TO ME CONSISTENT AND REASONABLE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING. ALL MY WHOLE JOB MY WHOLE LIFE WAS ALWAYS CONSISTENT AND REASONABLE. AND DEALT WITH REASONABLENESS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVEN IF THEY DO COME UP AGAIN, THE REASONABLENESS IS 18% VERSUS 27% ON JUST THE WALL OR ONE OTHER HOUSE. I THINK HE'S REALLY CLOSE TO THE 20%. AS LONG AS HE USES THIS FORMULA AND USES IT EVERY SINGLE TIME AND IS CONSISTENT WITH IT, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE. THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. >>COUN. BENTON: AND ON THAT POINT, I BELIEVE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS CORRECT THAT THE ZHE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY HE'S BEEN MAKING THE CALCULATIONS AND INTERPRETING THE IDO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. THERE WAS TESTIMONY PROVIDED BY PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF AT THE LUHO HEARING THAT SAID THAT THE ZHE IS DOING THE CALCULATION AND CONSISTENTLY AND DOING SOME SORT OF ROUNDING OPERATION WHEN HE'S DOING THE CALCULATION THERE'S A FRACTIONAL OUTPUT. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD INCLUDE ROUNDING UP IF THE DECIMAL IS FIVE OR MORE. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >> THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. JUST TO WRAP UP THE BIG DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT, I THINK IF WE FEEL THAT SOME THINGS ARE OUT OF KILTER WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT UP WITH THE NEXT UPDATE AND WILL BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO -- THERE WE HAVE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR APPROVALS. AND THE FIRST ONE AND THE ONLY ONE IS OC-20. APPOINTMENT OF ANGELA LUCE TO THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY BOARD. I WILL MOVE A CONFIRMATION. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONFIRMATION. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> YES. WE HAVE ONE IN-HOUSE. AND MS. LUCE ON ZOOM. FIRST SPEAKER IS GREG COFFMAN. >>COUN. BENTON: IS HE HERE? APPARENTLY NOT. >> ON ZOOM WE HAVE AVIOLA. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? WE WILL MOVE TO ANGELA LUCE, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BENTON: IS SHE PRESENT? >>COUN. BENTON: SHE'S ON ZOOM, SIR. MS. LUCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M JUST EAGER TO BE WELCOMED AND ON BOARDED. AFTER THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND SPEAKING WITH EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? IF NOT, THANKS AGAIN. AND WE WILL GO TO A VOTE ON THE CONFIRMATION OF MS. LUCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO FINAL ACTIONS. R-72. THIS IS MY LEGISLATION. THIS IS DIRECTING THE CITY NOT APPROVE A SITE PLAN FOR LOEZ DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AT 35254 -- FOURTH STREET THAT IS INCONSISTENT IN WHAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS PROCESS. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. I'M GOING TO MOVE THE FIRST ONE AND IF WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT, WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT DEFERRAL. POSSIBLE DEFERRAL OF THIS UNTIL OUR UNIQUES -- NEXT MEETING. A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEVELOPER. AND MS. SCHULTZ IS HERE WITH ANSWERS TO ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW IT'S GONE. IF YOU MAY RECALL FROM THE LAST TIME THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DESIGN ON THE PROPERTY. I THINK THE DESIGN OF THE STANDARD HOUSE AND SOME CHANGES TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE CALLED GUIDELINES BUT ESSENTIALLY AT THIS POINT THEY'RE BECOMING STANDARDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. AND I THINK THERE'S AGREEMENT ON THAT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS. SO, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, SHE CAN WEIGH IN. IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. SEEING NONE. ON THE AMENDMENT, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. IF THERE'S A SECOND FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THAT'S IN YOUR iPAD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'D BE HAPPY TO DESCRIBE AMENDMENT ONE WHICH IS AN AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT OCCURRED HERE TWO WEEKS AGO RELATED TO THE GUIDELINE DOCUMENT. AND WHAT THEY CALLED FOR AND THE OPERATIONS SURROUNDING THE FUTURE OF THE SITE. THE MAJOR THING THAT AMENDMENT ONE DOES IS PROPOSES TO SWAP OUT EXHIBIT B WITH AN UPDATED EXHIBIT B WHICH IS AN UPDATED SET OF DESIGN GUIDELINES AS PROPOSED BY GUEST HOUSING. I MET WITHUOUS HOUSING AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS ATTACHMENT AND AT THAT TIME EVERYONE WAS IN AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSED AND WHAT WITH THAT NEW EXHIBIT B PROPOSES AS WELL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE, FOR THE RECORD I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY IF THERE WAS A SECOND. I OFFERED THE SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BENTON: NUMBER ONE IS IN THE PACKET AND THE HARD COPY YOU HAVE IS NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY, GOT IT. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS AND IF PEOPLE HAVE COME TO A MUTUAL AGREEMENT ON EVERYTHING OR IS THAT WHAT WE MEAN OR WHERE YOU'RE WORKING THE DEFERRAL THROUGH? IF THIS IS READY TO GO, AND IT'S SHOVEL READY, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SITTING AND IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS SOMETHING WE NEED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN WORKED OUT AND THE PARTIES AGREE AND THAT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY AND HOPEFULLY FOR A WIN-WIN ON EVERY SIDE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNED UP. HER SENSE COMING AWAY FROM THAT AND I KEPT ARM'S LENGTH AWAY FROM THAT DISCUSSION. HERE IDEA COMING AWAY FROM THAT WAS THERE WAS AGREEMENT REACHED ON THIS FIRST AMENDMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YES, I'LL CLARIFY THAT THE AGREEMENT IS ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO BE VOTED ON. THERE'S A SECOND AMENDMENT THAT YOU RECEIVED A HARD COPY OF THIS AFTERNOON AND THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT ONE. THE ONE ON THE FLOOR RIGHT FLOW THERE'S AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCILOR BENTON'S OFFICE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS CAN I JUST ASK QUESTIONS? FROM THE LAST MEETING TO THIS MEETING IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WHEN THE AGREEMENT WAS MADE HOW OFTEN DO WE GET INVOLVED AS A COUNCIL ONCE THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN MADE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I CAN SPEAK TO MY EXPERIENCE AS COUNCIL STAFF AND IN THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE WORKED THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE SEEN THE COUNCIL RETHINK ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS IT WAS PROPOSED OR THE DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH AN APPROVED RFP ANECDOTAL TO MY PARTICULAR EXPERIENCE. >>COUN. PEÑA: BY US AS A COUNCIL GETTING INVOLVED AFTER, I GUESS SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING EARLIER ABOUT THE HOUSING STOCK AND HOW QUICKLY WE NEED TO GET HOUSING UP AND GOING BY US AND THE DEVELOPER ORIGINALLY HAD A SET OF PLANS AND COMMITMENTS WE'RE GOING TO GO BY. NOW AS A COUNCIL WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED AND CHANGING THE GAME. SO, I JUST -- THERE ANYTHING LEGALLY -- COULD THE DEVELOPER COME BACK AND BE CONCERNED THIS HAPPENED AND THEY'RE HAVING THESE ADDED COST OR ADDED AGREEMENTS THAT THEY HAD NOT AGREED TO WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY APPLIED AND SIGNED THE INITIAL AGREEMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING THERE'S NOT AN APPROVED SITE PLAN AT THIS TIME. THERE IS AN APPROVED PLOTTING ACTION BUT NOT A SITE PLAN WHICH IS WHAT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES MOST DIRECTLY RELATE TO. THE AMENDMENT AND THE EXHIBIT DISCUSS AN APPROVAL THAT HAS NOT OCCURRED. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY, QUESTION, THERE SEEMS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE AFO -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT IN TERMS OF HOW MANY ARE PART OF THE PROJECT. I'M HEARING THREE. >> SURE. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THIS BODY APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF DECEMBER LAST OF YEAR CALLED FOR FOUR UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 80% OF THE AMI. AND THREE UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 65% OF THE AMI. THAT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THIS BODY APPROVED AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S INTERESTING IN DELETING THE AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH IS ININTENTION OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO WHICH WE'RE NOT QUITE AT YET. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE DO HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR THEM. WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM PUBLIC COMMENT AND HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT IF THEY WISH TO COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UP FIRST IS GREG. FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> THANK YOU, EXCUSE ME. WELL, YES, WHAT'S THE INTEREST HAD ISAAC BENTON AND DEBBIE O'MALLEY IN THIS FIVE OR TEN OR ACRES WHICH IS TO THE DEVELOPER FOR A MILLION AND ONE HUNDRED. ONLY GETTING THREE AND A HALF MILLION. CITY GETTING INSTEAD OTHER DEVELOPER AND ISAAC BENTON GETTING HUNDRED -- EXCUSE ME, $10,000 EVERY YEAR. WELL, THEY MINIMIZE. WELL, WHY ISAAC BENTON AND DEBBIE O'MALLEY INTERESTED IN THIS PROPERTY? VERY SIMPLE. KNOWING WHAT ISAAC BENTON PROFESSION. HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE AND DEBBIE O'MALLEY IS GOING TO WRITE DEVELOPER. ARE ALL THE CITY COUNCIL GETTING KICK BACK? NO. THE ANSWER IS NO. BUT WHO IS BEHIND IT? AND WHAT IS HE GETTING AND HOW HE IS GETTING, THAT IS INTERESTING. WE'LL SEE. THANK YOU. >> UP NEXT, WE HAVE TWO ZOOM PANELISTS. AGUILA FOLLOWED BY MARIE. AGUILA HAS NOT ACCEPTED MY PROMOTION TO PANELIST. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH MARIE. >> HI, THIS IS MARIE. AND I WON'T BE SPEAKING TONIGHT I'M DEFERRING TO JOE. I THINK DICK WAS GOING TO TALK AND THEN JOE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I COULD NOT FIND THOSE TWO PANELISTS. THEY'RE NOT IN THE ATTENDEE LIST. THAT'S CORRECT. HERE'S JOE. >>COUN. BENTON: HE'S ON. OKAY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, I HAD ININTENDED TO SPEAK TO THE MAIN MOTION RATHER THAN TO THE AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU CAN SPEAK TO BOELTH -- BOTH OF THEM IF YOU LIKE. WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXTRA TIME FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. YES, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS WITH YES HOUSING OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO. AND THE AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF YOU DOES REFLECT THE MOST RECENT STANDARDS THAT WE'VE ALL WORKED ON. I'M JOE, I LIVE AT 3514 SIXTH STREET. I'M THE SECRETARY OF THE NORTH VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION AD HOC COMMITTEE WORKING ON THE REDEVELOPMENT OUT OF THE BROWN PROPERTY. I LIVE IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE WEST PARCEL OF THE COMPLEX YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. OUR ASSOCIATION AND OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR BENEFICIAL USE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE HOPE IT WOULD BE A MODEL FOR THE KIND OF INNOVATIVE REDEVELOPMENT THAT FOURTH STREET REALLY NEEDS. AS I UNDERSTAND IT THE LEGISLATION MAKES DESIGN STANDARDS MANDATORY FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING PORTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND REQUIRES THOSE DESIGNS STANDARDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSAL THAT YES HOUSING SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AS PART OF THE RF PX P PROCESS. IT KEEPS FAITH WITH THE DECADE LONG EFFORTS ON THE PROJECT. THE LEGISLATION DOES A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. IT PROTECTS PUBLIC ACCESS AND PERPETUITY TO THE BICYCLE PATH TO THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL INTEGRATE THE PROJECT WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL ALLOW NEIGHBORS LIKE ME TO WALK BACK AND FORTH TO THE RETAIL BUSINESSES IN THE EAST PARCEL WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AROUND TO FOURTH STREET. PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE NEW HOMES AND APARTMENTS WILL HAVE EASY ACCESS TO GAR FIELD PARK AND GARFIELD MIDDLE SCHOOL. IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR MAINTENANCE AND PERPETUITY OF THE COMMUNITY SPACE WITHIN THE PROJECT. WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BENTON FOR THE LONG TIME EFFORTS TO ASSURE THIS IS QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. WE ALSO WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER O'MALLEY FOR THE CONTINUED ADVOCACY IN THE COUNTY SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT. WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE PASS THE LEGISLATION. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE RICHARD. IT'S NOT DISPLAYING HIS LAST NAME. >> HELLO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL FOLLOW UP ON JOE AND I THINK EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS VERY WELL. BASICALLY, I'M ALSO A NEIGHBOR, AND A MEMBER OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE NEAR NORTH VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND WE DO STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION AND URGE PASSAGE. WE ALSO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE WHOLE PROJECT AND HAVE THROUGHOUT. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A VERY LONG COMMUNITY PROCESS ON THIS. I'VE BEEN PERSONALLY WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND THE RESULT OF THAT PROCESS WAS A REPORT THAT WAS -- TO THE RFP AND WE CONTINUED TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO ENSURE THE COMMUNITIES KIRNS AND GOALS WOULD BE CONSIDERED. THE MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE PARCEL IS THE FOCUS OF DEVELOPMENT AND SEEMS TO BE WELL ON ITS WAY. THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WEST PARCEL HAS ESSENTIALLY BEEN PUT ON HOLD EXCEPT FOR THE COMMON INFRASTRUCTURE. SO YES HOUSING CAN FOCUS ON MULTIFAMILY. WHILE THE PROJECT WAS CLEARLY TENDED THROUGH THE RFP AND PROCESS TO BE DEVELOPED AS ONE PROJECT. THEY HAVE BEEN PLOTTED AS A SEPARATE -- WHICH WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO FURTHER REVIEW OR COMMENT. AND IT'S UNLIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED BY YES HOUSING. THEY HAVE TALKED TO US THAT THEY INTEND TO ENGAGE WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER AS A PARTNER IN THAT PROCESS. OUR CONCERN IS THE WEST PARCEL IS EMBEDDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING AND THE GREAT CONCERN TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS. AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN THAT THE SPECIAL ATTENTION BE PAID TO THE UNITS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT THE COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY DESIGN THAT PROJECT HAS NOT YET COMMENCED AND THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE WILL BE PROBABLY NO FURTHER PUBLIC REVIEW OR COMMENT. WE FEEL THAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS WHICH ARE A DIRECT OUTGROWTH OF THE CONTINUING COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY HOUSING AND WE WERE INVOLVED IN COLLABORATED WITH THEM AND WE MET WITH SHANA ON FRIDAY AND EVERYBODY AGREED ON THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WERE ACCEPTABLE AND THOSE ARE THE ONES NOW SUBMITTED TO EXHIBIT B. WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT GIVES THE COMMUNITY A VOICE GOING FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO PUSH TO MAKE THIS PROJECT SUCCESSFUL AND THE PROJECT WILL ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS PROVIDE HOUSING. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND URGE YOU TO PASS THE LEGISLATION. ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND THAT IS NOT -- YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EXHIBIT AMENDMENT AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AS WAS STATED, WE DO HAVE -- THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT THE TEETH. WHAT ARE THE TEETH THAT WILL ENSURE THAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE FOLLOWED. WHERE DOES THAT OCCUR. AND THAT WAS THE IDEA OF THE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT THAT WE'VE CIRCULATED TO THE COUNCILORS. I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THAT SECOND AMENDMENT TONIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE FIRST AMENDMENT PASSED AND WHEN WE WOULD DO A DEFERRAL UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY FINALIZE THE LEGISLATION. THAT'S MY CLOSE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BENTON: AS STATED, WE'RE STAYING IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE. WE WERE HOPING TO GET THIS PASSED TONIGHT. THERE'S ONE LITTLE PIECE LEFT. WE'LL COORDINATE THOSE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEVELOPER. AND I PREFER TO AT ARM'S LENGTH ASIDE FOR ADVOCATING FOR SUCCESSFUL PLANNING. I MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL NOVEMBER 7th. THANK YOU. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. GO TO THE ROLL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE NEXT TO NOTHING. WE GET TO GO HOME NOW. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.