This transcript follows the proceedings of the City of Cannon Falls Planning Commission meeting. Based on the context provided and the dialogue, I have identified the speakers, including Commission members mentioned by name (Mr. Hammer, Mr. Duncan, Mr. Lindell), applicants (Kenneth Adams, John Christensen), and city staff/representatives (Diane Johnson and a staff member referred to as Neil). [0:42] **Unknown Speaker**: thank you [0:50] [Music] [1:10] **Unknown Speaker**: so [1:52] **Unknown Speaker**: so [2:34] **Unknown Speaker**: okay [2:41] **Unknown Speaker**: buy a car at dirk oh yeah down that time [8:17] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: good evening like to call the city of canada falls planet commission meeting for september 14th to order roll call i'm here mr hammer d lindell here g lindell's missing [8:28] **Mr. Duncan**: oops you forgot me mike but i'm here [8:31] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: you oh you're in there too yeah mr duncan okay let's move on to approval of the agenda [8:38] **Mr. Lindell**: motion to accept [8:39] **Mr. Duncan**: so moved [8:40] **Mr. Hammer**: exactly motion's been made and accepted to seconded to approve the agenda all in favor [8:45] **Commission Members**: aye aye [8:47] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: moving on to approval of the minutes of the august 17th 2020. [8:55] **Mr. Duncan**: i make a motion to approve [9:05] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: washington made seconded all in favor [9:08] **Commission Members**: all right all right [9:10] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: approved let's move on to anybody in the attendance any citizens got anything to say about anything that's not on the agenda seeing none i'll move along to the public hearings uh let's start out with kenneth adams variance 302 ridgecrest drive to construct a six foot high fence on the side and front side [9:36] **Kenneth Adams**: good evening i'm looking for a variance today researching the items we're looking to fence in our backyard [9:50] **Kenneth Adams**: we live on a corner of ridgecrest and sherwood side house patio facing sherwood we're looking to build a six foot fence just to give privacy to that side the other side of the uh fence or the other side of the yard facing our neighbors is planned to be a four foot fence the fence is actually five foot with a one foot uh slats on the top so not solid all the way up in the past we've had great danes and kind of like great danes four foot fences really don't aren't conducive to great danes [10:30] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: discussion anyone [10:36] **Diane Johnson**: um i'm just gonna i'm just gonna note that um he did find all his property pins and he was notified that he can't put the fence in the right way and he also meets the triangle site visibility triangle requirements [10:53] **Kenneth Adams**: yeah and uh finding the property pins we're actually uh planning on making the fence ten feet inside of those property wise uh we have some nice trees that are right about online with the property so it wouldn't work there so we're 10 feet inside of the property tens the site angles are really a non-factor because of where the fence sits back it's approximately 70 feet from the front of the property line so anybody coming down sherwood has a clear shot to see traffic on both directions it does not impede visibility whatsoever [11:23] **Planning Commission Member**: the fence that's there now is that going to come out then [11:27] **Kenneth Adams**: we hoping not it'll just be added too [11:29] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: okay any other questions from the commission hearing none thank you thank you anyone in attendance uh that wants to voice their opinion on this variance hearing none we'll close that portion of the public hearing and move along to b condition news permit for john and june christensen 103 west dakota street john [11:58] **John Christensen**: this is a seek of variance for mainly the garage portion of the on the property we like to put a laundry room bathroom and a garage on but i will exceed the footage because i already have an existing garage on the property so i'm seeking to get a fairly large garage there at 36 by 40. um the house cars truck pontoon and miscellaneous storage of that but um it is a fairly large lot but yes it is [12:50] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: all right any questions from the commission [12:56] **Planning Commission Member**: um i john are you going to be i assume you're going to send in the actual plans other than this that you are going to build a mud room or laundry room [13:06] **John Christensen**: yeah we haven't gone to that point yet depending on the outcome of this whether we even proceed with the entire thing but yes plans would have to be drawn for all that [13:16] **Planning Commission Member**: and if i look at this correctly with the laundry room are you gonna have a door that goes into the garage from that [13:21] **John Christensen**: there'll be a guest so there would be the door that goes right into the house entryways would be entryway laundry room bathroom and then from there you would enter into the garage here plus an entryway to the garage on the exterior too [13:42] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: okay as far as the layout on your proposed layout are you going to stick to that john [13:49] **John Christensen**: pretty close man i can't see much really anything changing got a lot of property there move around [13:55] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: well yeah both both you and your neighbor uh mr robinson uh got large very large lots and and i know uh mr robinson already has a fair amount of space in uh in extra buildings and stuff so i don't see a problem diane do we have any additions to that or no [14:26] **Diane Johnson**: i do not [14:27] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: good okay anybody in the audience here to voice their thoughts on this variant hearing none we'll close that portion of the public hearing concludes our public hearings we'll move along down to uh decisions on the items on the agenda for the resolution of 2020-09 variants of kenneth adams at the 302 regis crest drive any discussion on the commission level or a motion [15:02] **Mr. Duncan**: i'll make a motion to approve 2020-09 [15:06] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: motion's been made by mr duncan [15:09] **Mr. Lindell**: we'll second it [15:10] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: goodbye mr lindell all in favor [15:13] **Commission Members**: aye [15:14] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed fast moving along to b resolution 2020-10 conditional use permit for john and june christensen at 103 west dakota street any discussion on the commission hearing none is there a motion [15:47] **Planning Commission Member**: uh i move to approve the resolution [15:51] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: motion has been made [15:53] **Mr. Duncan**: seconded by mr duncan [15:55] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: all in favor [15:57] **Commission Members**: aye [15:58] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed hearing none passes c 2020-11 administrative subdivision lot boundary line adjustment for dr robert molnar i think we all understand this one diane the paperwork was uh taken care of for this [16:13] **Diane Johnson**: yes i um was working with mr burkhart last friday and we had everything all taken care of yes so all the ducks are lined up we're good to go betcha [16:21] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: do i hear a motion to accept or deny [16:23] **Planning Commission Member**: move to approve 2020-11 [16:25] **Mr. Hammer**: i'll second it [16:26] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: been made seconded by mr hammer all in favor [16:31] **Commission Members**: all right i [16:33] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed that passes down to d resolution 2020-12 administrator administrative subdivision lot split for jody ripley at 500 middle street um there was some discrepancy between the land surveyors and that's been addressed [16:51] **Diane Johnson**: yeah we did have a third survey come in from david wrap and it met all of our qualifications that we needed and they do have a plan for a driveway so she will um would be able to address the the new lot which was a concern [17:10] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: neil do you have anything further on that one [17:12] **Neil [Staff]**: no she meets everything that uh staff is requiring so um no objections on staff side [17:21] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: no objections that's a favorable opinion then any motions to accept or deny [17:26] **Planning Commission Member**: i'll move to approve 2020-12 [17:29] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: motion's been made is there a second [17:31] **Planning Commission Member**: i'll second [17:32] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: second's been made all in favor [17:35] **Commission Members**: aye [17:36] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed hearing none pass e review of a result revised concept plan for the first edition of towering bluffs and discussion to set a public hearing if approved diane is there something you could highlight on this for us please [18:02] **Diane Johnson**: you know i'm gonna let neil take this one [18:04] **Neil [Staff]**: okay okay at the last uh planning commission meeting we talked over a different concept plan this is a difficult site if anybody's ever been out there it's very set back varying differences in elevations and and it makes the grading of the site extremely difficult so they've been working hard to find the best way to build these lots and during the past month they came up with a different concept plan so the concept plan that was approved at the last planning commission meeting they want to pull that one out and put this one back in there's not a not a lot different from the last one this bubble up at the top on lots uh 7 8 9 10 11 and 12 um we're put in there and there's a t missing but other than that it's it's not too far off from what it was before but if you uh if you think and then the dotted square that's taken out of the top that's the water tower uh land so it's coming up to the same spot as the last uh approved concept plan it's just a little bit different uh design so if you uh and then the same with the if you look at the lot some of them are smaller and some of them are bigger um he's wanting to get into the affordable lots and some of them are bigger single family lots so he's holding to the initial lot sizes and stuff that he did provide in the first concept plan [19:58] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: any other discussion now it says here neil um to set a public hearing if we approve this would that be for next month's planning question [20:07] **Neil [Staff]**: yeah he'll uh hopefully this is the last one he comes with um it's a tough sight it may change again i hope not but what that would do it's a public hearing for the preliminary plot is what it's for and then we can either do the preliminary plat and the final at the same time it's a small development there's not much there but we'll see how it turns out but if you would set the public hearing and if he changes his mind we'll bring back a concept plan otherwise we're going to move on to uh preliminary plot [20:44] **Planning Commission Member**: do you know if they've done soil samples yet there you know this development's been going on i seen some work way back in what 2003 so this has been going on a long long time [21:03] **Neil [Staff]**: okay uh it's just a very challenging site [21:07] **Planning Commission Member**: yeah we don't want to run into the same issues you know no other side of the road there so okay well i think we can all see 25 the issues where it leaves 20. with the blue green clay what it's done up there material that should have been hauled away and never used so it's going to be a diffic difficult and ongoing issues with utilities especially i see a lot of problems down the road but i'm not the one living there [21:44] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: favorable decision by the city at this point to proceed with the public hearing [21:48] **Neil [Staff]**: yeah i think it it it resembles the last concept plan uh close enough to uh make a recommendation to go to public hearing or i mean to preliminary plat [22:04] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: set a public hearing accept their recommendation [22:08] **Mr. Duncan**: i'll uh i'll make a motion to uh approve the revised concept plan and set a public hearing for next month's planning commission [22:15] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: motion's been made do i hear a second [22:18] **Mr. Lindell**: i'll second that [22:20] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: been made and seconded all in favor [22:23] **Commission Members**: i [22:25] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed any other discussion by the commission nope hearing none motion to adjourn [22:31] **Mr. Duncan**: well moved [22:34] **Mr. Hammer**: second [22:36] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: motion has been made and second to adjourn all in favor [22:41] **Commission Members**: all right [22:42] **Chair (Mike Hammer)**: opposed hearing none passes meetings concluded thank you so much [23:07] **Unknown Speaker**: you