>>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE 41st MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. THIS IS ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. WE ARE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ALL OF OUR COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT VIA ZOOM. COUNCILOR BENTON IS RUNNING A LITTLE BEHIND. HE WILL JOIN US MOMENTARILY. TONIGHT, WE ARE ASKING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING. I THINK THE THING WE HEAR THE MOST ABOUT IS CRIME. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT KEY COME TOGETHER AS A CITY AND WE CAN GET OUR CRIME UNDER CONTROL. I KNOW THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND COUNCIL ARE CONTANTLY WORKING ON >>COUN. BORREGO: THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, GOVTV, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THESE CAN BE ACCESSED THROUGH SMART PHONES, TABLET AND COMPUTERS , THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON LIVE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE VIDEO OF THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS WHICH ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THIS AFTERNOON. AS WELL AS ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 1 P.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO THAT. WE ARE GOING TO START OUR AGENDA TODAY WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION WHICH WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON THE SCREEN. AND I'M GOING TO LEAD US OFF ON THAT. AND SOME OF THE COUNCILORS WILL JOIN ME IN READING THE PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS, PEOPLE OF ALL AGE AND WALKS OF LIFE ACROSS AMERICA AND AROUND THE WORLD COLLECTIVELY WITNESS A TRAGEDY ON SEPTEMBER 11 2001. AND. COUNCILORS, I THINK EACH ONE OF YOU HAS A LINE HERE. IF YOU CAN SEE WHICH LINE YOU'RE READING. I'LL READ THE SECOND LINE. WHEREAS PEOPLE OF ALL AGES -- I'M SORRY. WHEREAS THE EVENTS OF THAT DAY IN NEW YORK, WASHINGTON, AND PA KILLED CITIZENS FROM 92 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND INSTANTLY TRANSFORMED EVERYONE'S LIVES THROUGH PERSONAL LOSS AND THROUGH A SENSE OF INDIVIDUAL AND NATIONAL VULNERABILITY. >>COUN. JONES: WHEREAS UNPRESENTED HISTORIC BONDING OF AMERICANS AROSE FROM THE SHOCK UNIFYING THE COUNTRY THROUGH NATIONAL SPIRIT, PRIDE, SELFLESSNESS GENEROSITY COURAGE, AND SERVICE. >>COUN. SENA: MANY BRAVE PEOPLE INCLUDING HUNDREDS OF NEW MEXICANS COURAGEOUS LAY PARTICIPATED IN DANGEROUS RESCUE AND RECOVERY EFFORT IN MANY CASES PUTTING THEIR OWN WELL-BEING AT RISK AND. >>COUN. PEÑA: WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 11 WILL NEVER AND SHOULD NEVER JUST BE ANOTHER DAY IN THE HEARTS OF AMERICANS. AND WHEREAS MANY CITIZENS MAY WISH TO MEMORIALIZE SEPTEMBER 11 AS A PART OF SOLEMN DAY OF REMEMBRANCE AND TRIBUTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHEREAS THIS YEAR THE 20th ANNIVERSARY, THE TRIBUTE AND LIGHT AN ART INSTALLATION WAS LIT FROM DUSK UNTIL DAWN. AND -- >>COUN. DAVIS: BY WONDERFUL COMPASSIONATE AND DEEDS THAT OCCUR AFTER SUCH AN ATTACK THAT THE SHOCK AND SADNESS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN UNIQUE WAYS. >>COUN. GIBSON: WHEREAS IN TRIBUTE TO ALL OF THE VICTIMS IN 9-11 AND THE MANY OTHERS WHO ROSE IN SERVICE AND IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION BOTH HERE AT HOME AND ABROAD. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, COULD YOU READ THE LAST PORTION OF THAT? COUNCILOR HARRIS. BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER BE REMEMBRANCE AND TRIBUTE TO THOSE WHO ARE LOST AND INJURED ON SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 ON TERRORISM ATTACKS ON AMERICAN SOIL. TODAY, WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM OUR ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR ALBUQUERQUE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I SEE TWO DIFFERENT SCREENS. IF THE MEMBERS WITH ALBUQUERQUE FIRE CHIEF WOULD FIRST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND WE'LL HAVE MEMBERS FROM APD INTRODUCE THEMSELVES. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> COUNCILOR BORREGO, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WITH ME TODAY IS OUR 9-11 COMMITTEE. TO MY RIGHT WE HAVE LIEUTENANT SHAUN, AND LIEUTENANT SHAUN NICHOLS AND WILL MADDDOX. AND CAPTAIN RAY ALPS. THESE GENTLEMEN WORKED HARD TO DISPLAY ALL OF THE THINGS YOU SEE ON 9-11 TO PUT TOGETHER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED FROM THE STAIR CLIMB TO THE ACTUAL CEREMONY IN REMEMBRANCE OF EVERYTHING THAT TOOK PLACE 20 YEARS AGO. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TOM RUIZ, THE CHAIR OF THE 9-11 COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BORREGO, CITY COUNCILLORS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN ALBUQUERQUE AND ALBUQUERQUE FIRE RESCUE. 20 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. IT'S ALSO THE BLINK OF AN EYE. AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS HAVE COME AND GONE SINCE 2001. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED. WE SAY THE PHRASE NEVER FORGET. AND FOR A LOT OF FIRE FIGHTERS IT CAN BE DESCRIBED AS A HEAVY DAY FOR A LOT OF US. IT'S A HEAVY DAY FULL OF MIXED EMOTIONS AND I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE THIS TRADITION OF DOING THE STAIR CLIMB AND CONDUCTING THE MEMORIAL CEREMONY IN CIVIC PLAZA SO WE NEVER FORGET THE SACRIFICES OF THOSE FIRE FIGHTERS FROM NEW YORK. WE NEVER FORGET AND ALSO PAVE THE WAY FOR YOUNGEST GENERATION OF FIRE FIGHTERS IN THE RANKS. WE HAVE SOME THAT WEREN'T ALIVE DURING 9-11. WE HAVE FIRE FIGHTERS THAT ARE NOW HAVING SONS AND DAUGHTERS THAT ARE FIRE FIGHTERS FOR ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. IT'S IMPORTANT WE REMEMBER THAT DATE AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO NEVER FORGET THOSE SACRIFICES AND TRADITIONS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HOLDS AND THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, CITY COUNCIL, FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN PUBLIC SAFETY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY AND IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. AND NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE OVER TO APD, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I SEE SOME FOLKS IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE. IF YOU CAN PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M JOSH BROWN, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT LIEUTENANT RUIZ SAID. WE APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED COUNCIL SUPPORT. 20 YEARS DOESN'T SEEM THAT LONG AGO. THEY HIT IT ON THE HEAD AS FAR AS HAVING YOUNGER OFFICERS REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED AND THE SACRIFICES THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF NEW YORK FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT THROUGH ON THAT DAY. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WITH AFR AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING WITH US THIS AFTERNOON. ANY COUNCILORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. I KNOW TIMES ARE HARD. IN LIGHT OF SEPTEMBER 11 AND ALL THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED, WHEN IT COMES TIME AND PEOPLE MAKE THOSE CALLS WE WANT YOU TO BE THERE. AND WE WANT YOU TO BE THERE TO HELP ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY. MYSELF, I SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING PLEASE JUMP IN. MY RAISE HAND ISN'T WORKING. I CAN'T SEE WHO HAS THEIR HAND UP. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU TO BOTH AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND FOR INVITING ME TO THE 9-11 REMEMBRANCE CEREMONY. IT WAS REALLY MOVING AND GET TO SHARE FROM -- A RETIRED LIEUTENANT ABOUT THE TRADITION AND HOW IT RESONATED THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND WORLD. THAT TRADITION IS CONTINUED ON. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I KNOW HE CONTINUED TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY AND AS A TEACHER. I WAS ALSO TOLD TO RECOGNIZE YOUR DRIVER THERE, DAVID, IN CHIEF'S GALLEGOS OFFICE. I KNOW YOU HAVE A FUTURE FIREFIGHTER THERE AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE CEREMONY AND FOR INVITING COUNCILORS AND FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALBUQUERQUE FIRE AND RESCUE. WE'LL PRESENT A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION TO BOTH GROUPS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN EVERYDAY LIFE AND FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR BORREGO AND COUNCILORS, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. TONIGHT WE DO NOT HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE LONG TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE WE START OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M GOING TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. THIS INFORMATION IS FOR THE PUBLIC. HELLO, FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING US TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING WE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING AND ALL COUNCILORS RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME THEY WILL REMAIN MUTED WITH THEIR CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY ARE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN ON THE CAMERA, UNMUTE THEMSELVES HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL. AFTER THAT, THEY WILL AGAIN BE MUTED AND RETURN TO BE ATTENDING THE ZOOM WEBINAR. I'LL MENTION THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. WE HAD IT AT 20. ACTUALLY IT'S 30 PARTICIPANTS. THAT IS IN THE COUNCIL RULES. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. HERE ARE THE PUBLIC GROUND RULES, EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK, COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. MR. MOY, PLEASE CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CHRISTOPHER RAMIREZ. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS AND I'M THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR SENA FOR SUPPORTING THE ZERO FAIRS LEGISLATION AND URGE YOU TO VOTE YES. WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE COMPROMISE OF EXTENDING THE START DATE. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WERE COMMITTED TO IDENTIFY FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS THE BERNALILLO COUNTY TO SUPPORT ZERO FARES MOVING FORWARD EVEN AFTER THIS FISCAL YEAR. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE PART OF THE SAFETY PLAN OTOO MAKE SURE EVERY RIDER AND DRIVER IS SAFE. WE HOPE THAT TRANSIT AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THAT SO WE HAVE A SOLUTION THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND MANY COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHO WANT TO BE AT THE TABLE TO MAKE SURE BUSES ARE SAFE FOR EVERYONE. MY LAST PIECE IS KNOW ZERO FAIRS ARE GOING TO POSITIVELY IMPACT SOME OF THE MOST IMPACTED INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. 74% ARE LOW INCOME, OVER 80% ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR. THIS MONEY YOU'RE INVESTED IN ZERO FAIR FARES HAS A HIGH RETURN OF INVESTMENT FOR THE FAMILIES BEING ABLE TO MOVE THOSE DOLLARS ELSEWHERE AND FOR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, COUNTY, CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIESS THAT SHIFT DOLLARS TO OTHER RESOURCES. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAVID. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M A PROJECT MANAGER AT -- I JUST WANT TO SAY SOME OF THE IMPACT OF FREE FARES, I REALIZE YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON THAT, I JUST WANT TO URGE THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE FOR THAT. AT LEAST FOR STUDENTS, I'M A STUDENT RIGHT NOW. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE WE GO TO SCHOOL ON THE BUSES ALL THE TIME. AT MY SCHOOL WE HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING IDs TO GET ON THE BUS. MY SCHOOL HAS NO FUNDING AND IT'S A CHARTER SCHOOL. IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET --. >>COUN. BORREGO: PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF. >> SOME OF US NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE BUS WITH OUR PARENTS IF WE HAVE A MEETING AT SCHOOL OR PARENT TEACHER CONFERENCE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL US TO GET PLACES AND STILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE SUCCESSFUL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. --. >> ? >> HELLO, EVERYONE, HELLO, CITY COUNCIL. I'M A REFUGEE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'LL BE HERE SIX YEARS. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND LETTING US SHARE OUR VOICE AND TALK ABOUT TRANSIT FARES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IF YOU CAN PLEASE VOTE YES ON TRANSIT FARES. ALSO, I WANT TO SHARE HOW I NEED CITY BUSES TO GO AROUND TOWN AND HOW IT HELPS ME TO BE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO TO GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS. I WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND IT WAS VERY HARD FOR ME TO DRIVE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PERMIT OR LICENSE AND ALSO WE HAD ONLY ONE CAR IN THE HOUSE. IT WAS FOR MY DAD AND MY BROTHER TO GO TO WORK AND BE ABLE TO GO TO JOBS. I WAS HAVING TROUBLE TO GET TO SCHOOL ON TIME BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING BUS PASSES AND ALSO NOT HAVING ACCESS TO BUSES THAT ARE ON TIME OR GET ME THERE ON TIME. BECAUSE I HAD TO TAKE TWO BUSES FROM MONTGOMERY TO SAN MATEO AND CENTRAL TO HIGHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. I HAD OVER 100 TARDIES FOR ONE YEAR. THAT WAS HARD FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GO THERE AND JUST GET THERE ON TIME. I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT BUSES HELP ME GET AROUND TOWN. I'M A FIGHTER. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR DAVIS -- >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOU HAD A QUESTION? >>COUN. DAVIS: DON'T HANG UP YET. I WANT TO REACH OUT AND ASK A FOLLOW-UP. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT I LEARNED IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT ISSUES. YOU TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE BUS FROM MONTGOMERY TO HIGHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. I LEARNED AND I HOPE THE OTHER CITY COUNCILS NOTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT ALTHOUGH EVERY SCHOOL HAS A TRANSPORTATION PLAN FROM APS, ONLY A FEW SCHOOLS HAVE PROGRAMS GEARED FOR MIGRANT FAMILIES. I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT. BEING A MODEL FOR YOUR OTHER STUDENTS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE THE RIGHT SCHOOL FOR YOUR STUDENT IS NOT ALWAYS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THESE TRANSIT OPTIONS ARE CRUCIAL FOR GIVING ACCESS TO STUDENTS WHO CAN UTILIZE THEM TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU HAVE BEEN. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH US. >> THANK YOU, I ALSO WANT TO SHARE THAT I GO TO UNM. I WENT TO HIGHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. THAT WAS THE REASON I WANTED TO BE AT HIGHLAND IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE IN THE REFUGEE COHORT. I DIDN'T KNOW ANY ENGLISH. NOW I SPEAK ENGLISH AND HAVE THAT AS MY SKILLS AND BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN INTERNSHIP AND ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. I ALSO WANT TO SHARE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND ALSO LIKE THE CITY WILL HELP OTHER REFUGEES AS WELL. I THINK THAT'S PERFECT. NOW THERE'S NEWCOMERS COMING IN AND THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION. IT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM TO GET AROUND TOWN AND THEY'RE UNFAMILIAR WITH WHAT TO DO. ALSO, IF THEY HAVE TO PAY EVERY SINGLE DAY TO GO AROUND TOWN THAT'S REALLY HARD FOR THEM. I APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS SAY YES TO TRANSIT FARE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COULD I CLOSE BY ASKING HIM TO TELL US WHAT HE'S STUDYING. I'M VERY EXCITED HE CHOSE ALBUQUERQUE AS HIS HOME. >>COUN. DAVIS: WHAT ARE YOU STUDYING AT UNM? >> I'M MAJORING IN BIOLOGY AND MINORING IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT. I'M PLANNING TO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL AND HAVE A SIDE LOB -- JOB AS BUSINESS OWNER. >>COUN. DAVIS: CONGRATULATIONS, STICK AROUND WE NEED YOU IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD LUCK TO YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALTHEA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I CHALLENGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO STOP DRIVING FOR THE NEXT WEEK -- BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE CURRENT RIDERSHIP THAT KICKS PEOPLE OFF THE BUS. I LOVED IN BOSTON WHERE I ROAD LONG SIDE EVERYONE. HOURS AND FREQUENCY. (INAUDIBLE). FOR MY BUS, FREQUENCY IS 40 TO 50 MINUTES OF WAITING IN THE SUN. AND AFTER THE SUN SETS MY -- THAT'S NOT SAFETY. OUR SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE -- (INAUDIBLE). ALBUQUERQUE HAS A LOT TO OFFER FOR FAMILY AND SMALL BUSINESSES. WE'RE SAFER WHEN WE CAN RIDE THE BUS WHERE WE NEED IT AND WHEN WE NEED IT. MORE RIDERS GIVE SAFETY IN NUMBERS. LESS TRAFFIC, FEWER DWIS AND LESS FATALITIES. (INAUDIBLE). PLEASE IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM TONIGHT WITH NO FURTHER DELAYS. REMEMBER WHAT SAFETY REALLY MEANS TO PEOPLE LIKE ME. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. I THINK WE ALL WHO HAVE RIDDEN THE BUS UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES YOU HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JERRY. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I'M THE WEST SIDE COALITION REPRESENTATIVE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PART UNDER CONSIDERATION. I CALLED COUNCILOR BENTON REPEATEDLY THIS WEEK TO ASK FOR A DEFERRAL OF THIS ITEM UNTIL OUT OF RESPECT FOR DR. JOE AND HIS BEING OUR POINT PERSON ON THE -- IF YOU REMEMBER BACK THE INITIAL REWRITE OF THIS NARROW CALLED FOR IT TO EXPIRE AT THE END OF ONE YEAR IF IT WAS NOT ACTED ON BY CITY COUNCIL. IT WAS NOT AND IT HAS BEEN EXTENDED A NUMBER OF TIMES. AND I REMEMBER BACK ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2017 COUNCILOR BENTON ACCEPTED OUR INVITATION AND SPOKE TO THE WEST SIDE COALITION WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT. WE'RE AT THIS FOUR FIVE YEARS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WAS GOING TO ESTABLISH TRUST IN PARLIAMENT. THE QUESTION IN SUMMARY WAS SUBMITTED WITHOUT INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSES BEING SUBMITTED TO THEIR CITY COUNCILLORS. IF I TAKE MY OWN CITY COUNCILLOR, THAT WOULD BE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 3,000 HOMES SHE WOULD WITH NOT HEAR FROM. THAT'S QUITE A FEW VOTES. THE SUMMARY QUESTION IS ANOTHER ITEM, I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER THAT BECAUSE THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE CHOKED OFF NEW NEIGHBORHOODS. FINALLY, RECOGNITION OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE BOUGHT BY A DEVELOPER HOLDING ONE VOTE. I'D LIKE TO EXPOUND ON THAT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN. WHERE I LIVE, THE -- WAY OUT ON 98th AND I-40 THE WHOLE AREA. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP. I SAW YOU WAVING ON THE LAST ISSUE. DID YOU HAVE COMMENT? >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M ANTICIPATING SOME QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE ADDRESSED IF I GET TO SNEAK IN FOR A FEW MINUTES AND ASK QUESTIONS OF THE DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL WELFARE. >>COUN. BORREGO: I HAVE YOU LATER ON COUNCILOR UNDER ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER. COULD WE WAIT FOR THAT? >>COUN. GIBSON: THAT'S FINE. IF WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, THANK YOU COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BORREGO: REGARDING THE ISSUE -- REGARDING THE NARL. I SEE COUNCILOR PEÑA'S HAND UP. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANTED HIM TO COMPLETE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN GO BACK TO HIM AND HE CAN FINISH HIS STATEMENT. >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT OPPORTUNITY. WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS A DEVELOPER HOLDS ALL OF THE LOTS AND IF THAT DEVELOPER HOLDS A LOT, NO MATTER HOW MANY THEY HAVE, THEY CAN HOLD THAT WITHOUT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNITION BEING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IF THAT IS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. IT'S DEPENDENT UPON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO PICK UP THE SLACK. IF WE LOOK AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, WHERE ARE THE FUNDS GOING TO COME FROM FOR US A COMMUNICATE TO 3,000 HOMES EFFICIENTLY. HOW DO WE MAINTAIN CONTACT LIST? THIS IS A BIG TASK. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE AND I THINK COUNCIL CAN WORK THIS OUT THEMSELVES AS TO WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE THE PROPER AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT OF AN AREA BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AND RECOGNIZED BY CITY COUNCIL. RATHER THAN WAITING AN ARBITRARY PERIOD OF TIME. I DON'T THINK ANY DEVELOPER WOULD HOLD A LOT FOR 14 YEARS, BUT THEY CAN HOLD IT FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT SOLD OUT COMPLETELY, THE DEVELOPER AND WE HAD THE STADIUM BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAD NO VOICE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO CUT THAT OFF AT THAT POINT. YOU CAN ALWAYS SPEAK UNDER THAT ITEM AS WELL. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE LIMITED. CAN HE SPEAK UNDER THAT ITEM? NO. IF HE ALREADY SPOKE ON IT? WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY COMMENTS ON THAT ITEM. THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS FRANK COMFORT. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M FRANK COMFORT, THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF LAURELWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 45 YEARS. WE'D LIKE TO ASK IN REFERENCE TO ITEM 14, I ASK THAT IT BE DEFERRED AS A MINIMUM. THERE'S TOO MANY OBJECTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP. WE STILL DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN COMPLETED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE SEEN. IF THAT'S NOT DONE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DOWN THE LINE. I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. THERE WON'T BE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE ASSOCIATION AND ONC. JUST GETTING NOTIFICATIONS, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY PARTICIPATE IN ANYTHING. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT OBJECT TO THIS -- NOT OBJECT, WE PREFER TO SAY WE NEED TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL BRASHER. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BORREGO AND ALL THE REST OF THE GROUP AT OUR LAST MEETING FOR HELPING ME WITH MY PROBLEMS TO GET ONLINE. YOUR HELP IS APPRECIATED. I THINK THE PROCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EAST GATEWAY COALITION IS ASKING FOR DEFERRAL. WE SUBMITTED DETAILED COMMENTS IN AUGUST. SOME OF THE PROBLEMATIC AREAS ARE RESPECT TO DUES, COMMENTS RANGE FROM IT'S UNFAIR AND HEAVY--HANDED AND IT'S PROBLEMATIC. WE SHARE YOUR INTEREST IN HAVING CITIZENRY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN CITY GOVERNMENT, WE SHARE THAT. ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN THERE'S A NEED FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF OUR NATURAL AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU WE USE SOME OF THE DUES MONEY TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS IN THE AREA OF DUES. AS FAR AS NOTICES ARE CONCERNED. TWO NOTICES IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. WE THINK THERE'S A VERY SIMPLE AND INEXPENSIVE WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE AND IT WILL NOT IMPACT THE BUDGET. WE FILED COMMENTS ON THAT AND WE ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WITH REGARD TO THE COALITION MEMBERSHIP, WE'RE A GROUP OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHERE WE ARE INVITING INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE AND ATTEND OUR MEETINGS. WE FEEL THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT LANGUAGE MUST BE STRUCK. ONE FINAL NOTE -- >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE FINAL THOUGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ONE LAST NOTE. ONC, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS NEEDS TO PROVIDE BUDGET INFORMATION ON THIS SET ASIDE PROGRAM DETEALING HOW THE VOTER APPROVED FUNDS WILL BE USED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT. IT WILL BE A MORE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS ON HOW FUNDS ARE SPENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT INDIVIDUAL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DON. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU THERE? THERE YOU ARE. COULD YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR? PLEASE. THANK YOU. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BORREGO, COUNCILORS, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ACADEMY HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE DISTRICT COALITION, AND THE ACTING CHAIRMAN OF THE INTERCOALITION COUNSEL. AMONG THE INCONSISTENCIES INCLUDED IN THE NARL ARE ELIMINATION OF MEMBERSHIP DUE AND A SIGNIFICANT CONFLICT WITH ROBERTS RULES REGARDING VOTING RIGHTS. WITHOUT DUES HOW DOES AN ORGANIZATION PRINT NEWS LETTERS AND EXPENDITURES? OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS HAS DONATED ALMOST $4,000 TO CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE PUBLIC LIBRARY. ON THIS IT INCLUDES DUES SHALL BE SET BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. MORE EGRS ACCORDING TO ROBERTS RULES THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. AND THE ISSUE OF NONMEMBERS ATTENANCE IS COVERED IN 24 SEPARATE PARAGRAPHS. ONC MODEL BYLAWS STATES IN ARTICLE NINE ROBERTS RULES OF ORD SHALL GOVERN THE ASSOCIATION EXCEPT IN CONFLICT WITH BYLAWS. THIS IMPORTANT LEGISLATION NEEDS TO BE REWRITTEN WITH SIGNIFICANT INPUT AND THE CITIZENS MOST IMPACTED BY IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CORDERO. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. THOMAS. >> OKAY. I WAS TRYING TO GET IT STRAIGHT. I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING INTERESTING. IT'S A LITTLE OFF-TOPIC. IT SAYS FLORIDA IS AHEAD OF THE GAME. THEY'RE OPENING -- RESEARCH SHOWS THE THERAPIES OF 70% EFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING HOSPITALIZATION. AT LEAST 74,,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TREATED. FROM READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON THIS ARTICLE, COMMENTERS ARE CERTAIN THIS TREATMENT IS AVAILABLE IN PLACES OTHER THAN FLORIDA. SOME OF THE COMMENTS SUGGEST THAT THERE'S CRITERIA FOR THIS TREATMENT. THE SECOND PART OF THIS ARTICLE READS THIS, DOCTOR WAYLAND CAUGHT COVID AND SHE WAS FULLY VACCINATED AND EXPERIENCED A HIGH FEVER. SHE IMMEDIATELY WENT TO GET THE ANTIBODY TREATMENT AND IN EIGHT HOURS SHE HAD NO ACHES OR FEVERS. IN 36 HOURS SHE HAD A REDUCTION IN BODY ACHES. ACCORDING TO CDC FLORIDA IS SEEING A DROP IN HOSPITALIZATIONS BECAUSE OF TREATMENT. MY COMMENT IS WHEN WILL THIS TREATMENT BE AVAILABLE IN NEW MEXICO? >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR. WE'LL PROBABLY FEED -- NEED TO SEND THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AT THE STATE LEVEL. IF YOU'LL CONTACT MY OFFICE, WE CAN DO THAT. YOU ARE MUTED. >> OKAY, I DO APOLOGIZE. MY PHONE WENT BLANK. WHO WAS JUST SPEAKING? >>COUN. BORREGO: I WAS SPEAKING, SIR. WHAT I SUGGESTED IS YOU CONTACT MY OFFICE SO WE CAN SEND THAT FORWARD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. WARD. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> ALL FRNS BOARD MEMBERS OPPOSE O-21-71. THE NOTION THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PROMOTE FAIRNESS AND DEMOCRACY IS A RED HERRING. WE SUPPORT DEMOCRACY AND ENDEVERS TO OPERATE IN SUCH A MANNER, RULES IS SUSPECT. THEY DO NOT RECEIVE REGULAR FUNDING, DO NOT CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARINGS. TWO, THE CITY RISKS TREATING RESIDENTS DIFFERENTLY ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY LIVE WITHIN THE RECOGNIZED ASSOCIATIONS. THIS WILL DENY STANDING IN JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS TO AFFECT RESIDENTS IN CASES FOR WHICH MAY OTHERWISE SIMILAR TO RESIDENTS WHO LIVE -- THE CITY CONTINUES TO WORK AT CROSS PURPOSES WITH REGARD TO CRIME. HIGH DENSITY AREAS ARE CRIME HOT SPOTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE IDO PROMOTES HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND IT REMOVES NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. DOES THE CITY PREFER TO CHASE ITS TAIL BLINDLY WITH REGARD TO CRIME. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST O-21-71. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME SPEAK WITH YOU. I'M A BUS RIDER AND THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF CATHOLIC CHARITY SUPPORT. DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT. AS A PRIMARY LANGUAGE OF THESE FAMILIES IS NOT ENGLISH NOR SPANISH I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THEIR VOICES. THEY'RE GRATEFUL AND PROUD TO HAVE A VOICE. FREE FARES WILL BE A GAME-CHANGER ALLOWING THEM TO ALBUQUERQUE EXPERIENCE FULLY. DURING THE FORUM FAMILY SHARED THE HARDSHIPS THEY FACED WITH NOT HAVING SUFFICIENT BUS FARE. ONE MOTHER WITH TWO CHILDREN TRIED TO GET TO A DENTAL APPOINTMENT TO HAVE FOUR TEETH REMOVED. AND A CHILD PLEADING WITH THE DRIVER TO LET HIS FATHER RIDE TO WORK SO HE CAN GET TO HIS JOB ON TIME AND PROMISING TO FIND MONEY THE NEXT DAY. THESE FAMILIES NEEDED TO BE HEARD AND SO THEY HAD BEEN HEARD WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PASSED FOR ZERO FARES. THEY HAVE BEEN AWAITING THE START OF THIS. MORE REFUGEES ARE COMING TO ALBUQUERQUE VERY SOON. AND THIS WOULD GIVE THEM ECONOMIC RELIEF TO START THEIR NEW LIVES. AS A RIDER MYSELF, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN FOR SAFETY OF ALL RIDERS. CATHOLIC CHARITIES WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF THE SAFETY PLANNING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THOSE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, IF I SEND A REQUEST TO BECOME A PANELIST, PLEASE ACCEPT IT. WITH THAT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CYNTHIA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I SAW ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS IS HOMELESS PEOPLE WOULD BE RIDING IF THE FARES ARE AT ZERO. I THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE SPOTLIGHTED IT'S NOT THE ISSUE. ACTUALLY MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE AND FIXING THE RUN TIMES IS NECESSARY. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PRICE FOR PASSES. YOU'RE PAYING TWO DOLLARS A DAY. THAT'S $60 A MONTH. AND EVEN FOR A YEAR, IT'S $225. I CAN'T SEE ANYONE BEING ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE THINGS. MAKING THE BUS FARE FREE IS BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY. THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THINGS INCLUDING HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT NEED TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THE PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO HELP THEM OUT. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THAT. THE MONEY IS CLEARLY THERE FOR IT. IT SEEMS LIKE THE COMMUNITY IS IN FAVOR OF IT. TO VOTE NO ON THAT SEEMS LIKE YOU WOULD (INAUDIBLE). >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KEITH. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, CITY COUNCILLORS, HERE TO OFFER COMMENT ON RESOLUTION ON THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS RESOLUTION. THE BCC SUPPORTS THE CVA AMENDMENTS IN THE CURRENT FORMAT. MORE SPECIFICALLY THE CBA IS A CONDITION PRECEDENT TO THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST BY THE CITY. I SAW ON THE AGENDA THERE WAS AN ANTICIPATED AMENDMENT MAKING THE CBA CONDITION PRECEDENT TO A LEASE AGREEMENT. WE DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WE REQUEST THAT IT BE PASSED WITH THE ZONE CHANGE AMENDMENT LANGUAGE IN THE CVA. SECONDLY, THERE WAS A COMMENT AT THE LAND USE MEETING THAT NOT ALL COMMUNITIES WERE CONSULTED. WE WANT TO ECHO COUNCILOR BENTON'S STATEMENT THAT ITERYON DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BETH. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HELLO, I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. I USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND JUST AS A PRINCIPLE I BELIEVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SHOULD BE FREE FOR PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND NEED TO DO. WHERE -- GO TO WORK, SCHOOL, AND ACTIVITIES IN FREE TIME. MANY STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENOUGH FOR RENT AND FOOD PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ANOTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN. THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR'S OFFICE, THE LEASE THEY CAN DO IS PROVIDE FREE TRANSIT WHICH ISN'T MEETING THE BEAR MINIMUM OF PEOPLE'S NEEDS IN ALBUQUERQUE. SOME HAVE SAID YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT HOMELESS PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS. I CAN'T THINK OF A MORE HEARTLESS AND ANTI- HUMAN ARGUMENT AGAINST ZERO BUS FAIR. IF SOMEONE IS HOMELESS THEY NEED A JOB, HOUSING AND SOCIAL SERVICES. IT'S ALL ESSENTIAL TO LIFE SERVICES. AND SOMETIMES BUS FAIR IS A PREVENTING AN UNSHELTED PERSON FROM BEING ON TIME. AND ALL THESE THINGS CAN IMPROVE THEIR LIFE AND HELP THEM OBTAIN HOUSING. AS A FORMER HOUSING CASE MANAGER I'VE SEEN THIS IN ACTION. PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE FOR BUS PASSES. WE NEED MONEY FOR PEOPLE'S NEEDS LIKE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING. NOT TO CRIMINALIZE AND BRUTALIZE UNSHELTERED PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WAYSING WAGES, AND TRANSPORTATION IS THE SOLUTION. CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR KELLER, STOP STALLING. THE PEOPLE DEMAND FREE TRANSPORTATION NOW. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DIANA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE TAYLOR RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. RIGHT NOW, I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU JUST AS A 35-YEAR DUES-PAYING MEMBER OF TRNA. I'M ASKING THAT YOU DEFER PASSAGE OF IT BECAUSE AT THIS POINT I THINK THE DOCUMENT AS WRITTEN HAS SO MANY FLAWS AND CHANGES THAT IT JUST NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. WE HAVE SO MANY CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT PROVISIONS IN IT AND SO MANY AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED AND PROPROTED TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. FOR ME I'M PUZZLED BY THE NUMBERING USED IN THE COUNCIL BILL 0-21-71. IT STARTS OUT BY SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE SECTION 14-18-2, AND ON THE NEXT PAGE, WHEN WE GET TO REPEAL, IT SAYS REPEAL 14-8-2. AND IMMEDIATELY IT GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT SECTION 14-8-2 BEING ENACTED AS FOLLOWS. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE REPEALING THIS NUMBERED SECTION AND RESURRECTING IT. AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT PAGES, IT IS REFERRED TO A NUMBER OF TIMES AS SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE PRESCRIBED BY SECTION 14-8-2 BLAH BLAH. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CATHY. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU HAVE HAVING ME. FIRST OF ALL, I'M A RESIDENT OF LA LUZ LANDOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. I WANT TO STATE THIS NARROW REVISION NEEDS TO BE WITHDRAWN AND REWRITTEN WITH A PROCESS OF OWN DISCUSSION AND AUTHENTIC CITIZEN INPUT. ARE VIEW OF THE PROCESS REVEALS WEAKNESSES THAT SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE LOOKED AT. THE ONLY DOCUMENTS NOW AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC DISCOURSE ARE THE NEP UPDATES AND THE NEP PHASE THREE REPORTS. THE DATA AND THE WRITTEN NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSES ARE NOT AVAILABLE. THIS IS BECAUSE STANDARD PUBLIC SURVEY PROCEDURES WERE NOT FOLLOWED AND THE DATA WAS NOT COLLECTED IN A DOUBLE BLIND MANNER TO ENSURE PRIVACY FOR ALL RESPONDERS. THE DOCUMENT, THE PRODUCT THEY HAD, COULD NOT BE LINKED TO THE NARROW BECAUSE WE CANNOT GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DATA. IN ADDITION, WHEN YOU READ THE NEP PHASE THREE REPORT, YOU FIND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN THAT WERE OUTLINED HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE CURRENT REVISION. I THANK THE COUNCILORS WHO ASKED FOR INPUT AND SUGGESTED CHANGES AND AMENDMENTS. I MUST INSIST THAT A WELL-WRITTEN DOCUMENT, A WELL-WRITTEN CITIZEN SENSITIVE DOCUMENT WOULD NOT DEMAND EXTENSIVE AMENDMENTS. AND THEREFORE, I WANT TO REITERATE MY REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL WITHDRAW THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND WORK TO RE -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> BEFORE I CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT MR. DAN REGGEN, PLEASE ACCEPT THE PROMOTION TO PANELIST SO YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR COMMENT. WITH THAT, OUR NEXT PERSON TO SPEAK IS RENÉ. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M WITH THE TAYLOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE WEST SIDE COALITION. AS YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSED NAROW, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CURRENT ONE WAS UPDATED IN 2007. AND IT WAS WITH A TASK FORCE THAT INCLUDED NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THEY HELPED DEVELOP IDEAS ON HOW TO DEAL WITH BOUNDARY ISSUES AND NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSIBILITIES. BUT THEY ALSO HAD DEVELOPERS RESPONSIBILITIES. AND IT HAD SOME POINTS LIKE LET'S LOOK AT HOW TO IDENTIFY CONFLICTS AND RESOLVE THEM BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR. AND IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATION. IT HAS A LOT OF GOOD POINTS IN THERE. YET, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WE DID HAVE A GOOD INTERVIEW. A LOT OF OUR DISCUSSION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL. WE NEVER DID -- WE ASKED FOR MEETINGS. I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS ASKED FOR A LOT OF MEETINGS TO DISCUSS IT AND RESOLVE ISSUES. LET'S UNDER AND HELP ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. I TOO WOULD SUPPORT A DEFERRAL. NOT JUST A FEW WEEKS, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR MORE TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES AND ALSO I KNOW THERE'S SOME AMENDMENTS BEING PROPOSED. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE AMENDMENTS. I WOULD URGE A DEFERRAL AND WE SHOULD RESOLVE THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NITA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILOR BORREGO, COUNCILORS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I COME TO YOU AS THE SECRETARY FOR THE TAYLOR RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE TAKE THE FORMAL POSITION THAT THE CITY OPPOSE THIS LEGISLATION AND AT A MINIMUM DEFER IT FOR UP TO 90 DAYS. HOWEVER WITH THE WITHDRAWAL OF THE CURRENT ONE WITHDRAWALS THE PURPOSES AND STATEMENTS FOR WHY AND REASONS AS TO WHY IT EVEN EXISTS. THE NEW ONE, AS PROPOSED, QUESTIONABLY RAISES WHAT IS THE LEGITIMATE PUBLIC PURPOSE TO WHY THE CITY IS ENACTING THIS NEW LEGISLATION. THE RAW DATA AS MS. ADAMS POINTED OUT FROM THE NEP PROCESS IS NOT AVAILABLE WHICH ADMINISTRATES IT WAS NOT A SYSTEMATIC PROFESSIONAL CONSULTATION PROCESS FOR WHICH REASON AND SYSTEMATIC DECISIONS WERE MADE IN THE PROPOSAL OF THE REVISION OF THE NEW LEGISLATION. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT ULTIMATELY YOU'RE TREADING ON ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS RIGHTS TO ORGANIZE, GATHER, CONTRACT WITH ONE ANOTHER. THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES, CONSTITUTIONALLY WITH THIS PROPOSAL. I ENCOURAGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE WITHDRAWAL THIS OR VOTE IT DOWN, DEFER IT, DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT WILL -- YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE ELECTED YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THIS LEGISLATION. THE EFFECT IT WILL HAVE WILL CHILL THE ABILITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE INPUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. VERY BRIEFLY. >> THE EFFECT WILL HAVE REMOVED THE ABILITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE RECOGNIZED AND THEREFORE HAVE A STANDING IN LAND USE PUBLIC PLANNING. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PEGGY. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU THERE? >> I AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. I TURNED MY VIDEO OFF TO REPRESENT THE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE WHO CANNOT JOIN THESE FORUMS DUE THE ELECTRONIC NATURE OF THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, WITHOUT MUCH HOPE I'M COMPELLED TO SPEAK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL. I'M DUMBFOUNDED TO ASK YOU TO HOST PUBLIC MEETINGS REGARDING THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE. I MUST FEEL FOR THE RECUSAL OF COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR JONES, AND COUNCILOR GIBSON AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. THEY WERE PART OF A COMPLAINT THAT I FILED AT THE AGs OFFICE ON ADVICE OF A VERY WISE MAN. I REQUESTED RELIEF FROM THE AG'S OFFICE. COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE 021-71 WITHDRAWN OR DEFERRED FROM THE AGENDA UNTIL PUBLIC MEETINGS CAN BE HELD TO REVIEW A NEIGHBORHOOD ORDINANCE. I DID NOT RECEIVE AN EMAIL BACK FROM COUNCIL SERVICES INDICATING THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED MY NOTES. THIS IS NOT THE WAY YOU SHOULD TREAT PEOPLE. PERSONAL FEELINGS ASIDE, IT'S NOT THE WAY TO REPRESENT CALL FOR TRANSPARENCY AND INCLUSION. ANYWAY, BESIDES THE ISSUES RAISED IN THE COMPLAINT TO THE AG'S OFFICE, THE TRANSFERENCE OF GOVERNMENT ROLE AND VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATIONS AND THE ISSUES OF ABUSES THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND MORE, I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON ANOTHER SUBJECT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE CHAIR AS FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS WHILE DISCUSSING THE ORDINANCE. THIS IS ALLOWED? EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WHILE GOING THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS WHICH IS QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS. I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT COUNCILORS REFRAIN FROM DIALOGUE WITH OTHER COUNCILORS. >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DAN. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD MY CLOCK. I HAVE A PROCEDURAL PROBLEM. COUNCILOR BORREGO, I LOOKED THROUGH THE AGENDA AS CAREFULLY AS I COULD TWICE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY CHANGE FROM THE TWO MINUTES TO MINUTE AND A HALF. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE DOING 30 PEOPLE. I JUST WANT TO REGISTER THAT IT'S TREMENDOUSLY FRUSTRATING TO PUT TOGETHER ONLY TWO MINUTES OF COMMENTS AND AS THE MEETING STARTS BE TOLD YOU ONLY HAVE A MINUTE AND A HALF. OKAY. START MY CLOCK, IF YOU WILL. COUNCILOR BORREGO, I'M REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR COALITION. 0-21-71 IS A FLAWED DOCUMENT PROCESS WISE AND CONTENT WISE BECAUSE MY TIME IS SHORT. I'M GOING TO START WITH CONCLUSION. I RECOMMEND THIS REVISION OF THE NARROW BE COMPLETELY VOTED DOWN AND A NEW EFFORT BEGIN WITH PROCESS THAT ACTUAL INCLUDES THE RESIDENTS IN A MEANINGFUL MANNER. IF THIS IS NOT DONE, I SUGGEST THAT IT BE DEFERRED UNTIL ALL AMENDMENTS CAN BE REVIEWED BY ALL PARTIES. THE JUSTIFYING WHEREAS OF THIS BILL STRONGLY COUNT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND IT'S REPORT AND SAYS THE NARROW REVISION IS BASED ON THE FINDINGS. TWO PROBLEMS, FIRST THE REPORTS FINDING SAID THAT TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY AND RESIDENTS WAS BUSTED AND NEEDED TO BE RE-ESTABLISHED AND NURTURED. IT ALSO SAID MOVING FORWARD WAYS AND MEANS NEEDED TO BE USED WHICH WOULD ENGAGE THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY IN A POSITIVE WAY. THE PROCESS IN THE CURRENT REVISION IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THESE FINDINGS ASK THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY THAT FOR TWO YEARS. SECOND PROBLEM, EVEN IF THE REQUESTS OF THE DATA OF THE 30,000 PUBLICLY FUNDED WERE NEVER RELEASED. NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOU COUNCILORS, CAN KNOW WITH ANY CERTAINTY WHETHER THIS REFLECTS ANY PART OF THE SURVEY. TONIGHT, 13 NEW AMENDMENTS ARE SLATED TO BE ADDED TO THIS. NONE OF THEM, AS I SPEAK AT THIS MOMENT, HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC. IF THEY ARE VOTED ON TONIGHT, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THE COUNCIL WILL BE GUILTY WHAT WOULD BE CALLED MALPRACTICE. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: BEFORE WE GO. I WANT TO MENTION THAT ALL OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SCRIPTS, AT LEAST THAT I'VE READ IN THE LAST YEAR HAVE BEEN A MINUTE AND A HALF. I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE RIGHT UP FRONT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORRY, I MUTED MYSELF. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE THE FIRST SET OF QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IN REGARD TO AN EMAIL WE RECENTLY RECEIVED AS A COUNCIL ABOUT SOMEONE REACHING OUT -- AND I KNOW I HEARD THIS FROM MULTIPLE CONSTITUENTS, IT'S NOT JUST ONE. THIS IS THE EMAIL THAT REALLY GOT ME TO WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION. PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED FOR THE LENGTH OF TIME THEY'RE ON HOLD WHEN THEY CALL 911. THEY'RE CONCERNED FOR NOT GETTING A RESPONSE AT ALL AND BEING SENT TO THE RECORDING. IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE DO? I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE STAFFING ISSUES GLOBALLY. WHEN PEOPLE ARE HARMED OR INJURED OR THEIR LIFE IS BEING THREATENED, WHAT ELSE SHOULD THEY DO? WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND THE PUBLIC PROCEED IN DOING SO THEY CAN GET HELP AND ASSISTANCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE READY TO RESPOND TO THAT? >> YES, COUNCILOR BORREGO, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'M DEPUTY CHIEF GREIGO, AND I'M WITH THE ECC MANAGER. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION. WE TAKE THESE COMPLAINTS SERIOUSLY. I AS A DEPUTY CHIEF SINCE I HAVE GOTTEN THE ECT IN THE LAST REVIEW WORK, I LOOK AT ALL THE COMPLAINTS MYSELF. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE GET THESE COMPLAINTICIZE -- DATA POINT THE PHONE SYSTEM TRACKS FOR US. THE PHONE SYSTEM IS NOT LIKE YOUR AVERAGE PBX YOU FIND AT A BUSINESS. IT COLLECTS DATA AND WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO. AND ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS. THE NATIONAL STANDARD FOR ANSWERING A 911 CALL IS 90% OF CALLS WITHIN 15 SECONDS AND 95% WITHIN 20 SECONDS. I GET DAILY REPORTS ON THE CALL TIMES AND THE TIME IT TAKES TO ANSWER. WE'RE RIGHT AROUND 80% IN GETTING THEM ANSWERED IN THAT TIME FRAME. THERE'S NO NATIONAL STANDARD FOR NON-EMERGENCY LINE WHICH IS 242-COPS. HOWEVER WE'RE STRIVING TO GET THAT ANSWERED IN 108 SECONDS OR 3 MINUTES. THE TIME IT TAKES SOMEONE TO ANSWER IS INFLUENCED BY THREE DIFFERENT THINGS. STAFFING, BEING ONE. CALL VOLUME, AND CALL COMPLEXITY. WHEN WE GET THESE PHONE CALLS IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOT OF ANALYSIS INVOLVED AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE BY THE CALL-TAKER AND SUBSEQUENTLY BY THE DISPATCHER. IN REFERENCE TO THE SPECIFIC EMAIL THAT YOU HAD SENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE DID HAVE A CALL FROM ONE NUMBER REGARDING AN AGGRESSIVE DRIVER ON 911, THAT CALL WAS IN CUE. IT RANG FOR 29 SECONDS. WE RECEIVED ANOTHER CALL ABOUT AN ACCIDENT AT ACADEMY AND THAT CALL RANG FOR 2:20. WHEN WE HAVE CAR ACCIDENTS ON MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, WE GET AN INUNIDATION OF CALLS INTO THE COMMUNICATION CENTER. THAT'S WHERE WE GO TO THE SECOND FACTOR WHICH IS CALL VOLUMES. IT MAY TAKE LONGER TO SCREEN THOSE CALLS. YOU CAN'T JUST HANG UP ON THEM OR SAY WE ALREADY HAVE IT BECAUSE IT MAY BE ANOTHER ACCIDENT, THE CIRCUMSTANCES MAY CHANGE, OR SOMEONE MAY SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT SUCH AS A PERSON INJURED THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T REPORT. THE THIRD CALL THAT THE INDIVIDUAL SPOKE OF WAS ESSENTIALLY REPORTING A TIRE. -- FIRE. THE CALL WAS IN CUE FOR 15 SECONDS. IT WAS DISCONNECTED BY THE CALLER AND WE CALLED BACK WITHIN A MINUTE TO THE INDIVIDUAL. WE DID CALL BACK, HE DID SAY THAT AFR WAS ALREADY ON-THE-SCENE. THE OTHER INCIDENT IN THE COMPLAINT THAT WAS REFERENCED WAS THE SAME ONE REFERENCED ON A NEWS STORY RECENTLY. IT SAID THAT THEY CALLED 911 NUMEROUS TIMES AND NO ONE ANSWERED. THEY DIDN'T CALL 911, THEY CALLED 242-COPS. AND THE VICTIM CALLED 242-COPS AND WAS IN QUEUE FOR 12:35. THERE'S NO NATIONAL STANDARD, AND WE'RE TRYING FOR 180 SECONDS. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ROOM FOR IMPROVE NALITY. WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE CALLS, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN, I SENT YOU OTHER INFORMATION VIA EMAIL, WHEN WE WENT TO LOOK FOR THE CALL, WE HAD CALLS ASKING ABOUT THE TIME. CALLING 911 TO ASK ABOUT THE TIME OF DAY. CALLING 911 TO ASK WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS. THAT ALSO IMPACTS THE TIME WE HAVE TO ALLOCATE TOWARD ANSWERING THE TRUE 911 ON THE LINE. THOSE ARE THE SPECIFICS, THE THINGS WE ARE DOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS AS RELATED TO STAFFING WE CURRENTLY HAVE SIX VACANCIES AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING THREE MORE. THAT'S IN THE DISPATCHER SECTION -- NO THAT'S 911 OPERATOR. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS. THE INITIAL CALL-TAKER AND THE THE DISPATCHER WHO DISPATCHES THE OFFICER. AND THERE'S 11 VACANCIES THERE. THE ISSUE WE ALSO HAVE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FORCED OVERTIME TO SUSTAIN THE LEVELS WE'RE AT NOW. THE ADMINISTRATION HAS APPROVED US TO GET TEN ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL TO SCREEN CALLS. IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE AN EASY THING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND ANSWER PHONES. YOU HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE IN ORDER TO HANDLE A 911 CALL. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE HAVING THESE TEN PEOPLE COME IN AND ANSWER THOSE CALLS AND KICK THOSE ONES OUT THAT ARE ASKING WHAT TIME OF THE DAY IT IS OR WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK OR THOSE THINGS THAT NEED TO GO TO 311 OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY AND HAVE THOSE CALLS REFERRED TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. WHEN YOU CALL 911 OR 242-COPS YOU GO INTO THE QUEUE, IT'S A LINE ESSENTIALLY. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE START ANSWERING THAT QUEUE, THE 242-COP AND SOMEONE CALLS IN AND HAVE SOMEONE ANSWER THE PHONE AND TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT THIS PERSON NEEDS TO TALK TO A DISPATCHER OR SEE AN OFFICER, AND PUT THEM ON HOLD, THEY GO TO THE END OF THE QUEUE. IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT WE HAD TO -- WHERE THEY WILL STILL BE IN LINE IN THE PLACE THEY WERE IN WHEN THEY CALLED. ANOTHER COMPLAINT THAT WE GET IS THEY CALL 242-COPS FIVE OR SIX TIMES AND NOBODY ANSWERED. THE WAY THE PHONE SYSTEM WORKS IS IF YOU CALL AND NOBODY ANSWERS AND YOU HANG UP AND CALL AGAIN YOU JUST PUT YOURSELF BACK IN LINE AND WE'VE DONE THAT FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN A ROW. WE ARE EXAMINING SOME OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN I GET A COMPLAINT THAT SAYS I CALLED 911 AND NO ONE ANSWERED, I CAN LOOK AT THE PHONE SYSTEM TO SEE THAT CALL WAS NEVER DELIVERED TO US. THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH THE CARRIER. IT'S NOT ON THE ECC SIDE. THE PHONE CALL WAS NEVER DELIVERED TO THE CENTER. THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL. THE BIG THING IS WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE. WE'VE INTERVIEWED OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE GOTTEN APPLICATIONS FOR 500 PERSONNEL. THAT RESULTED IN 39 PEOPLE MAKING IT THROUGH. THIS IS A TOUGH JOB THAT THEY HAVE. YOU GO FROM ONE MINUTE OF AD HOMINEM ATTACKS TO HEARING SOMEONE GRIEVE. IT'S NON-STOP. FINDING THE PEOPLE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT AND HAVE THE SKILL SET HAS BEEN CHALLENGING. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, OFFICER. COUNCILOR, DID YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP? COUNCILOR DAVIS IS WAITING TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. I GET THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER WORK IN PROGRESS. WHEN PEOPLE ARE NEEDING HELP, WE NEED TO BE THERE. I ALSO REALIZE IT'S JUST A BROKEN RECORD AT THIS POINT. I'M NOT BLAMING APD. I'M SAYING CITY WIDE. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION, IF PEOPLE GET A CALL PICKED UP, DO THEY PUT ON HOLD AGAIN. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETIMES THEY MAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING TRANSFERRED TO THE RIGHT LOCATION. THAT COULD INCREASE THEIR WAIT TIME. AM WHERE -- AM I CORRECT? >> I'LL LET MS. WILSON ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE 242-SCREENING WILL ALLOW US -- RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING TIME FRAMES WHERE PEOPLE ARE WAITING 15 OR LONGER, I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD AND AS I'VE HEARD, TO SPEAK TO AN OPERATOR TO HAVE INITIAL SCREENING DONE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE CALL 242-COPS WHICH IS WHY WE DID A SOCIAL MEDIA PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON WHEN TO CALL 911 AND WHEN TO CALL 242. PEOPLE WILL CALL 242 BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DISTURB 911. WHEN THEY CALL 911 AND I DON'T HAVE AN OPERATOR IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE, THEY WILL HEAR A RECORDING TO STAY ON THE LINE INTEREST FOR THE THE NEXT AVAILABLE OPERATOR. I UNDERSTAND WHY A QUEUE MEANS HOLD FOR THE COMMUNITY. ON TOP OF THAT, WHEN THE SCREENERS WILL HELP US SCREEN THE 242 CALLS, WE'RE SEEING THE LENGTHY WAIT TIMES TO EVEN BE INITIALLY SCREENED. THOSE ARE THE PERSONNEL WE'RE USING TO SCREEN 242 CALLS. THEY'LL BE PUT INTO AN ADDITIONAL QUEUE WHERE THEY'LL WAIT FOR AN OPERATOR TO GET TO THEM TO ENTER THEIR CALL FOR SERVICE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, FOR THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ANOTHER ONE ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING. ARE YOU THERE? >>COUN. DAVIS: CHIEF, APPRECIATE THAT. I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I THINK TWO YEARS AGO AND EARLIER THIS YEAR WE REVISITED THE CITY COUNCIL WAS ASKED TO APPROPRIATE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR FOR HARD TO HIRE POSITIONS. YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAD OVER 500 APPLICANTS THAT RESULTED IN 30-SOMETHING DISPATCHERS. I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET FOLKS CERTIFIED FROM THE LITTLE BIT I USED TO DO IN THAT DEPARTMENT. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'VE SEEN INCREASE IN QUALIFIED APPLICANTS. IF YOU TELL US HOW THAT HARD TO HIRE PROGRAM HAS HELPED TO INCREASE OR NOT IMPACT HIRING OF THOSE POSITIONS. >> COUNCILOR DAVIS, I WILL DEFER TO MS. WILSON. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED REVIEWING AND SCREENING APPLICATIONS EVERY TWO WEEKS AS OPPOSED TO DOING A MONTH OR SIX WEEKS OF APPLICATION REVIEW. EVERY SINGLE TWO WEEKS WE REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND WE'RE TESTING. THIS WEEKEND WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS. WE CALLED THEM TODAY TO INVITE THEM TO TESTING TOMORROW. WE'RE NOT LETTING ANYTHING DRY UNDER OUR FEET. BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET THESE PEOPLE PULLED IN BECAUSE IT'S A COMPETITIVE JOB MARKET. I THINK THERE'S BEEN ASSISTANCE WITH THE REFERRAL BONUS BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR EMPLOYEES REFER GOOD CANDIDATES AND THERE'S THE HIRING INCENTIVE THAT IS IN PLACE. THERE HAVE BEEN BENEFITS FROM THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF I MIGHT FOLLOW, MY QUESTION IS IN TWO PARTS. I'LL PUT IT INTO ONE. NUMBER ONE, WE'VE SEEN FOLKS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES RESPONDING BY DOING HIRING IN A MORE EFFICIENT ASK AMBISHING MANNER, BUT IT SEEMS SOMEONE THAT WAITS TWO WEEKS MAY FIND ANOTHER JOB. NUMBER TWO, HOW LONG DOES TAKE FROM THE TIME SOMEONE APPLIES TO THE TIME WE SIT THEM TO TRAIN AT THE ACADEMY. HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE TO BE UNEMPLOYED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, TWO ANSWERS. ONE, THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE JUST APPLIED LAST THURSDAY AND WE'RE SCREENING THEM ON SATURDAY AND INVITING THEM TO TESTING ON MONDAY, I THINK WE'RE VERY AGGRESSIVE IN THAT. WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO MULTIPLE PLATFORMS WHERE I'VE POSTED OUR POSTINGS. WE CAN TRY AND RECRUIT. THERE'S A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS MOVING TO KIRTLAND WITH HER HUSBAND IN THE MILITARY, AND POSTED OUR RECRUITING BECAUSE SHE WAS LOOKING FOR JOBS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'D RATHER SNAG HER BEFORE ANYONE ELSE. I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND RIO RANCHO AND BERNALILLO COUNTY ARE STRUGGLING WITH APPLICANTS AS WELL. THIS IS A NATION WIDE ISSUE IN 911. TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION IF WE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE INTERVIEWING NOW, THEY WILL BE HIRED FOR A DECEMBER CLASS IF WE KNOW THEY'RE EMPLOYED. IF THERE'S SOME SITUATION, WE CAN BRING THEM ON EARLY. WE'RE WORKING WITH CANDIDATE AND THE CITY HAS BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE IN PROCESSING THEM AND GETTING THEM THROUGH NOT ONLY THE TYPING TEST, THE CRITICAL MUALITY MULTI-TASK TESTING, THE INTERVIEW. WE HIRE BEFORE WE GET -- THE CITY DOES THEIR BACKGROUND, BUT BEFORE WE GET THE FULL POLICE BACKGROUND, WE SCREENED IT AND BRING THEM ON ANYWAY AND IT'S VERY RARE WE HAVEN'T DONE A SCREENING WHERE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO RELEASE SOMEONE BASED ON BACKGROUND. WE LOSE SOME BASED ON BACKGROUND. WE ARE PLANNING AN ACADEMIES THAT ARE SEVEN WEEKS LONG EVERY OTHER MONTH. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. I'LL JUST END AND SAY BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER COUNCILORS BEHIND ME. COULD YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HALF MILLION DOLLARS PUT INTO THE HARD TO HIRE POSITIONS CAMPAIGN. IT TOOK A YEAR TO GET THE CAMPAIGN OFF THE GROUND. HAVE YOU SEEN RESULTS FROM THAT? CAN YOU POINT US TO THOSE? >> I'M SORRY. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE HAVE HAD SOME CANDIDATES WHO HAVE COME THROUGH THE PROCESS WHO HAVE BEEN REFERRED OR WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE REFERRAL BONUS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE PROCESS. ON THE FLIP SIDE WE HAVE CANDIDATES HIRED FOR OCTOBER WHO WILL GET PART OF THE HIRING INCENTIVE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. IT WAS ABOUT VID CROW -- MAYBE WE CAN CAN FOLLOW WITH HR. I'M SURE IT'S ALL TOGETHER. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THAT MONEY WAS SPENT. THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: IF YOU CAN JUST REACH OUT TO COUNCILOR DAVIS'S OFFICE REGARDING THAT ISSUE FOR FOLLOW-UP. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FOR THE DEPARTMENT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. IT'S VERY NICE TO HEAR THAT YOUR FULL PRESS FOR HIRING AND TRAINING AND GETTING OUR 911 OPERATORS IN SHAPE. I WILL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD PERSONALLY. WE HAD AN ACTIVE SHOOTER DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN MY DISTRICT. WE CALLED 242-COPS TO NO AVAIL. DIDN'T GET CLOSE TO GET AN ANSWER. WENT TO 911 AND DID NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM 911. THIS IS A FEW MONTHS AGO. I'M SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE ALL-OUT TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN THESE DEPARTMENTS. IT WAS WELL-BEYOND TEN MINUTES WHEN I FINALLY AM EMBARRASSED TO SAY THAT I CALLED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THEY ARRESTED THE GENTLEMAN WITHIN FOUR MINUTES. I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW BAD IT HAS BEEN IN OUR CITY. I HOPE YOU GET A GRIP ON THIS. AND YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. WITH THE AMOUNT OF CRIMES BEING COMMITMENTED WITH THE WEAPONS AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF DRUGS IN THE CITY. FOR A CITIZEN NOT TO BE ABLE TO REACH 911 IS INEXCUSABLE. THANK YOU, I HOPE THIS WORKS. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD PROCESS AND IT REALLY WILL WORK. IF WITH AND CAN HELP IN ANY WAY, CALL OUR OFFICE AND WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, ALSO, WHENEVER YOU ALL HAVE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE HIRING FOR, AND I KNOW OFTEN I'VE SEEN THOSE IN OUR EMAILS FROM MAYOR'S OFFICE, PLEASE SEND THEM TO THE COUNCILORS. WE HAVE OUR OWN OUTLOOK THROUGH FACEBOOK OR WE CAN REPOST THEM. OR TWITTER OR OTHER OUTLETS WE MIGHT HAVE. ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH COUNCILOR JONES ABOUT CONTACTING US AND SEEING IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN HELP YOU. THANK YOU, OFFICERS. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES WITH THAT QUESTION, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON WITH COUNCILOR GIBSON TO ANIMAL WELFARE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THAT HAD GIVEN. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY. YOU JUMPED TO THE SECOND QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY, I KNEW THAT ONE WOULD TAKE LONGER. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WEREN'T GOING TO ASK THE FIRST QUESTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE FIRST QUESTION, I'M VERY EXCITED TO ASK, MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK I GOT THE VERBIAGE MONTH. AFTER ASKING HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE HAVE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY FIELD SERVICES BUREAU OFFICERS DO WE HAVE. HOW MANY BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORKING THREE SHIFTS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DO WE HAVE? HOW MANY DO WE NEED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS COMMANDER BARKER. WE HAVE 908 TOTAL OFFICERS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 478 IN FIELD SERVICES. FIELD SERVICES ALSO INCLUDES OUR PROBLEM RESPONSE TEAM. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE A STAFF ING STUDY THAT WILL GIVE US HOW MANY OFFICERS WE NEED IN EACH BUREAU TO BE FULLY STAFFED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COMMANDER. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA TO BE IN THE FIELD SERVICES BUREAU? I DON'T MEAN TO BE PUTTING ON THE SPOT. I'M JUST CURIOUS. >> I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE STAFFING STUDY. WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS HIGHER. . >>COUN. BASSAN: SO WOULD I, COMMANDER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GLAD TO HAVE THAT NUMBER. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: BEFORE I GO TO THE OTHER COUNCILORS WITH THEIR HAND UP, SINCE I HAVE COMMANDER BARKER, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE IN THE ACADEMY. OR SOON TO BE OFFICERS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN GET YOU A NUMBER BY THE END OF THE DAY AND SEND IT TO ALL COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE TO A COUPLE OF COUNCILORS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT AND THANK YOU, COMMANDER BARKER. THIS STAFFING STUDY, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED AND WHAT'S THE PARAMETERS WITHIN THAT STUDY. IF YOU CAN EVEN HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR JUST LEARNING OF THE STUDY AND WHEN IT'S RELEASED WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S FOR THIS YEAR OR THE NEXT YEAR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, THE STAFFING STUDY IS A FEW WEEKS TO A MONTH IN. WE DO NOT HAVE A DATE THAT IT IS EXPECTED BY. HOWEVER, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS CONDUCTING THE STUDY IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS WITH ALL OF THE BUREAU LEADERS SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT TO US WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER AND SO WE CAN GET AN UPDATE AN SOON AS POSSIBLE. >>COUN. SENA: OKAY, I'D LOVE TO FOLLOW UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, IF YOU FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCILOR SENA'S OFFICE. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COMMANDER, THANKS SO MUCH. TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THE CITY COUNCIL FUNDED A $90,000 STAFFING STUDY LAST YEAR AND WE PROVIDED TO ADMINISTRATION AND APD. IS THE DEPARTMENT DOING A DIFFERENT ONE? OR IS THIS TO ANSWER THE COUNCIL'S QUESTION IN RESPONSE TO THE STAFFING STUDY WE UP WITHIDATED FROM THE FIRST STAFFING STUDY WE DID WHEN THE DOJ REFORMS BEGIN? >> WE'RE AWARE OF THE STAFFING STUDY CONDUCTED, THIS IS TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS WE HAD IN REFERENCE TO THE STAFFING STUDY IN SOME OF THE INFORMATION REVIEWED IS OUTDATED BASED ON CURRENT STAFFING. >>COUN. DAVIS: IS IT THE SAME VENDOR DOING IT? >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU, COMMANDER. I'M GLAD TO SEE PROGRESS ON IT. YOU KNOW VERY WELL, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT REALLY HARD. WE APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: JUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP ON THAT QUESTION, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR FINALIZING THAT STUDY? ANY IDEA? IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET BACK TO ME. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I DO NOT HAVE THE EXACT TIMELINE. AS I STATED, WE ARE WORKING TO GET THAT DONE VERY PROMPTLY. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU THIS EVENING. I THINK WE SATISFIED COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON WITH ANIMAL WELFARE. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME, COUNCILOR. GO AHEAD. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS EARLIER. SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE ANIMAL WELFARE DIRECTOR ORTEGA. THERE SHE IS. HOW ARE YOU? >> I'M GOOD, THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: FIRST OF ALL. I MISSED THE PRESS CONFERENCE OF THE TOUR OF THE NEW CLINIC. I'M REALLY SORRY I DID THAT. I DID SEND A NOTE ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT IN DOING THIS IN RECORD TIME FOR THE CITY. RECORD TIME TO STAND UP A CLINIC OF THIS NATURE. VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS FOR SPAY AND NEUTERING AND -- IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A HEALTHY PET POPULATION IN ALBUQUERQUE. GREAT JOB. I SINCERELY APPRECIATE THAT. I DO HAVE TWO DIFFICULT QUESTIONS FOR YOU. >> THERE HAVE BEEN ? >> >>COUN. GIBSON: THERE'S HAVE BEEN EMAIL AND A STORY OVER THE WEEKEND, I HAVE THESE QUESTIONS FORMED BEFORE THAT. THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING VOLUNTEERISM THERE. DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR ON STAFF? IS THAT POSITION BEEN FILLED? >> COUNCILOR BORREGO, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR POSITION. IT'S NOW CALLED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COORDINATOR. WE ARE ACTUALLY NOT JUST RECRUITING FOR ONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COORDINATOR, WE'RE NOW RECRUITING FOR THREE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COORDINATORS BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHER POPULATIONS OF VOLUNTEERISM IN OUR DEPARTMENT. AND WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON INCREASING OUR FOSTER PROGRAM. THESE COORDINATORS WILL OVERSEE THOSE EFFORTS. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. GOOD. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY -- OR AT LEAST WHAT THEY USED TO BE CALLED, THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATORS, WERE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAINING. IF THAT'S TRUE, I'M WONDERING IF THE REASON THAT VOLUNTEER POPULATION IS VERY SMALL RIGHT NOW IS THAT BECAUSE OF TRAINING ISSUES? AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO, MY FINAL QUESTION REALLY IS WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LET SOME OF THE MORE SEASONED, LONGER-TERM VOLUNTEERS, TAKE ON THOSE TRAINING RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE VOLUNTEERS TO DO. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR GIBSON. OUR BEHAVIOR MANAGER AND BEHAVIOR SPECIALIST AND WE'RE ALSO INCREASING OUR BEHAVIOR TEAM TO ONE MORE PERSON, TYPICALLY DO A HANDS-ON TRAINING. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON VIRTUAL TRAINING IN THE HANDLING IN BOTH DOGS AND CATS. WE CURRENTLY PARTNERED WITH THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT TEAM OVER AT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. AND THEY PROVIDED US WITH A VISTA THAT HAS A VAST ARRAY OF EXPERIENCE WITH VOLUNTEERS. AT HER PREVIOUS JOB SHE OVERSAW 1,000 VOLUNTEERS. IN THE INTERIM WHEN WE IDENTIFY THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATORS SHE WILL BE HELPING US TO DO SOME OF THE RECRUITING AND PUTTING TOGETHER SOME OF THE VIRTUAL TRAINING. SHE ALSO HAS A BACKGROUND IN I. T. SHE'S GOING TO BE A RESOURCE WITH HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND MASTER'S DEGREE. THERE'S SERVICE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES FOR ONE YEAR. AND THEY BUILD CAPACITY FOR PUBLIC AGENCIES TO ARE HAVE THE COMMITMENT OF PUBLIC SECTOR RESOURCES. SHE'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ASSET AS WE IDENTIFY THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATORS. IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOME MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS WITH SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEER WHOSE HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR QUITE A WHILE AND HAVE THEM BE SHADOWED BY NEW VOLUNTEERS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT IS DONE ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT EFFORT. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I GOT WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO VOLUNTEER WEREN'T BEING CONTACTED TO FOLLOW UP. I WONDERED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IS SHORT-STAFFED. ALMOST EVERY DEPARTMENT IS EXPERIENCING THAT TO SOME DEGREE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DID NOT HAVE AN AVENUE TO TRAIN THEM ADEQUATELY. WOULD YOU SEE THAT WOULD BE A REASON PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING FOLLOWED UP WHEN THEY DO EXPRESS INTEREST TO VOLUNTEER? >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY IS THAT MANY OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE SENIORS. SIGNING UP IN THE SYSTEM IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM AS I HEARD IN AN EARLIER PART OF THIS MEETING. WE ARE GOING TO DO SOME RECRUITING EFFORTS AT THE SENIOR CENTERS TO WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SIGNING UP AND IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE SHELTERS AND WE PROMOTE THAT AS A RECRUITING EFFORT FOR MORE PEOPLE TO SIGN UP. WE'LL WORK ON THE PROCESS FROM THERE WHICH WILL INCLUDE HANDS ON TRAINING WITH THE BEH BEHAVIORIST. AND HAVING A CONTINUOUS SUPPORT SYSTEM FOR THE I.T. PORTION OF THE SIGNING ON. >>COUN. GIBSON: GREAT IDEA. I VERY MUCH LIKE THE IDEA YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT POPULATION. OLDER PEOPLE AND VOLUNTEERS. THAT REMINDS ME, PEOPLE KEEP ASKING ME THIS, WHY DON'T THEY USE TEENAGERS? I DON'T KNOW AN ANSWER OF THAT. EVIDENTLY THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST. THIS QUESTION HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A HIGH SCHOOL YOUNG PERSON TO POTENTIALLY BECOME A VOLUNTEER? >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON AS AN INITIATIVE WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COORDINATORS. COMING FROM THE NOT FOR PROFIT WORLD I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO WORK WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLERS TO INTRODUCE THEM TO SOME CAREER PATHS THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK WAS AN OPPORTUNITY. WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO WORK ON THAT. WE WILL HAVE TO WORK WITH LEGAL AND RISK-MANAGEMENT TEAM BECAUSE OF THE INTERACTION WITH ANIMALS. I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH ENRICHMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS. THAT WILL BE INITIATIVE FOR NEXT YEAR. >>COUN. GIBSON: LET'S SEE, I DO HAVE THEM WRITTEN DOWN. MY SECOND QUESTION, I'M STRETCHING THE TRUTH BECAUSE THAT WAS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE, THE SECOND TOPIC I'LL CALL IT, I UNDERSTAND FACILITIES HAVE BEEN OUT, REALLY GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR DOING ASSESSMENT AND WALK-THROUGH WITH YOURSELF AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WORK OUT THERE AT EAST SIDE AND WEST SIDE AND THEY CAME UP WITH A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH. AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THEM IN THAT EFFORT ANY WAY WE CAN AS A COUNCIL. PART OF THAT, OF COURSE, IS DEEP CLEANING AND INTENSIVE PEST CONTROL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERY SHELTER, EVERY KENNEL ANYWHERE IS GOING TO HAVE THIS ISSUE. BUT, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO REALLY BE SUSTAINABLE OR MAINTAIN RATHER THAT TREATMENT, THE DRY DOG FOOD STORAGE MUST BE ADDRESSED. THERE'S JUST NO OTHER WAY. I PUT SOME TIME INTO THIS AND I FOUND THAT THERE ARE PRODUCTS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET THAT ARE COMMONLY USED IN OTHER SHELTERS AND OTHER KENNELS, AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DEMONSTRATION IN HOW EASY THEY ARE TO WORK WITH. WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN THAT, DIRECTOR? >> ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WE'RE ALWAYSOPE -- ALWAYS OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE OUR SHELTER. ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO IMPROVE IN THOSE AREAS. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT. MY OFFICE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOUR OFFICE AND WE'LL WORK THAT OUT. >> WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BORREGO, AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. THANK YOU FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUR BABIES. WITH THAT, YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. SORRY ABOUT THAT, COUNCILORS. I WAS SAYING THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON FOR BEING CONCERNED ABOUT OUR FUR BABIES. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WITH THAT, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO MS. ORTEGA. THERE ARE LOT OF ANIMALS UP FOR ADOPTION. ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR PETS. AND A LOT OF TIMES AND INSTANCES WHERE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT. IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO REACH OUT TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON, UNDER OUR JOURNAL. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE PROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 8TH JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW THINGS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING R-202 AND PLACING IT ON THE OCTOBER 4th COUNCIL AGENDA. R202 IS APPROVING THE PETITION OF THE REGENTS OF UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO AND LOBO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR FORMATION OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS TAX HAD INCREMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. I JUST REMIND THE COUNCILORS WE NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS PRESENT TO VOTE ON THIS IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. COUNCILORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE VOTE? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO NUMBER EIGHT, REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MET ON WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 15th AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF R-182 THAT IT DUE PASS AS AMENDED. R-191 DUE PASS AND BE ACTED ON IN THE MEETING IN WHICH IT'S REPORTED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEET'S RESULTS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR GIBSON, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND. WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO DEFERALES AND WITHDRAWALS. COUNCILORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS? I MOVE TO COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON ON 0-50. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'D LIKE TO ADD A DEFERRAL AT THE RIGHT TIME. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS OR COUNCILOR BENTON, 0-50. >>COUN. DAVIS: ON 0-50 I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL OCTOBER 15th. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. IS THAT A SECOND, COUNCILOR BENTON? >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE NEED A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE HAVE A 9-0. I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. I THINK SHE HAD ANOTHER ITEM SHE WANT TO DEFER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO DEFER 0-69. THIS IS THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: HANG ON, I NEED A POINT OF ORDER ON THIS. THANK YOU, FOR BEARING WITH ME. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON, IT APPEARS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH OKAY. I SAW YOUR HAND GO UP. WE WILL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? LET ME READ THIS QUICK. HAVE INDIVIDUAL WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OR COMMISSION AND MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU'RE WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT LOOKS LIKE SHE SECONDED THAT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT CONSENT AGENDA PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 11, WHICH ARE ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S AN ALBUQUERQUE-BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 23rd AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. AND A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATION COMMITTEEING MEETING ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 27th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 28th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, IT'S ABOUT FIVE MINUTES UNTIL FIVE. WE'RE MOVING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS AC21-9. NOB HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINERS DECISION. I WILL MOVE TO MR. MELENDREZ. >> THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THIS MATTER IS BEFORE YOU. THE FIRST TIME WAS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE HEARING OFFICERS. THE ZONING ALLOWED A VARIANCE OF A 6-FOOT FENCE ON RICHMOND AND SILVER AVENUE. THAT WAS APPEALED, AND THE CITY COUNCIL DECLINED TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER IN FAVOR OF HOLDING A FULL HEARING. YOU HAD THAT HEARING AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU VOTED TO CONTINUE THIS MATTER FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. TODAY, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP RELATED TO FUTURE IDO AMENDMENTS IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED THAT WALL HEIGHT ISSUES AND TRANSITIONAL ZONES DISCUSSED THAT WITH PLANNING STAFF AND PLANNING STAFF IS PREPARED TO LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY AS AN ANNUAL IDO UPDATE. AT THIS TIME, YOU'RE CONSIDERING ONLY WHETHER OR NOT TO AFFIRM THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER OR RETURN THE -- AND DENY THE STANDARD. IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE ZONING EXAMER ACTED ARBITRARILY OR CAPRICIOUSLY. I'LL HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A COUPLE COUNCILORS WITH QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR HARRIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL DEFER TO THE PRESIDENT, I THINK COUNCILOR HARRIS NEEDS TO MAKE SOME NOTES BEFORE WE PROCEED. I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AND MAKE A MOTION WITH THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, THANK YOU. IF I'M GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS HEARING, I NEED TO REVIEW THE VIDEO OF THE PRIOR HEARING BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND I I HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYON -- I KNOW IT'S BECAUSE OF MY TRAINING AS AN ATTORNEY AND BEING INVOLVED IN SEVERAL APPEALS, I THINK THIS IS EASY CASE BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE OF DISCRETION STANDARD. THERE'S EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT WHAT THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER DID. FOR ME, THAT'S THE BEGINNING AND ENDING OF MY ANALYSIS. I'M GOING TO VOTE TO AFFIRM THE APPEAL. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. COUNCILOR BENTON WAS TALKING POLICY, THIS IS AN APPEAL. FOR ME, THE ONLY ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER ACTED IN A CAPRICIOUS MANNER OR FRAUDULENTLY OR ABUSE OF DISCRETION. THESE APPEALS TEND TO GET POLITICAL. YOU HAVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I THINK THE ONLY REASON WHY THIS WASN'T A 9-0 VOTE WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL PROTECTIVE OF THE ZONING AUTHORITY AND LEGISLATION. PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE BUILT IT WITHOUT A PERMIT. I THINK THE REMEDY FOR THAT IS ISSUE THEM A FINE IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FINED ALREADY. THEY PROBABLY SHOULD ME. THAT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHETHER OR NOT -- BY THE WAY IF THIS WHAT A LAWYER WOULD BE A PROCEEDING WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WITH FRESH EYES AND DOING WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I MAY NOT VOTE FOR THIS. I MAY VOTE WITH THE FOUR COUNCILORS WHO WANTED TO REJECT THE APPEAL. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THEY BUILT IT WITHOUT A PERMIT. I MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE WHETHER IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY AND WHETHER OR NOT CIRCUMSTANCESS HAVE CHANGED. AND ALL THOSE FACTORS THEY ADDRESSED. I MAY COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. OUR ROLE AS SOLELY SEEING WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ABUSE OF DISCRETION. I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS. THERE WAS EVIDENCE, AND I THINK IT WAS DANCED EVIDENCE. I'M GOING TO VOTE TO AFFIRM THE APPEAL. THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS WAS IN FRONT OF ME, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THOUGHT HE ASKED TO WAIT. AM I CORRECT, COUNCILOR DAVIS? >>COUN. DAVIS: I WAS SIMPLY WAITING ON COUNCILOR HARRIS TO MAKE HIS DECLARATION REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR HIM TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S HEARING. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND I MAY ASK TO BE SURE THAT I GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND REJECT THEM IN PART. WE DISCUSSED THIS OPTION IN THE LAST MEETING AND I THINK THERE'S EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TO DO BOTH. I ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO LEAVE THE FENCE ON THE SILVER AVENUE SIDE, THE ONE DEMONSTRATED THERE'S COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. BUT REJECT THE FENCE ON THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF RICHMOND SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL PORTION. IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE AND ADDRESSES THE CONCERN. I DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THAT THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY DISRUPTED THE RESIDENTIAL CASING OF THE PROPERTY. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION IF THERE'S A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. MELENDREZ, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NO, I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR A SECOND AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. I AM GOING TO GO, COUNCILOR DAVIS, BECAUSE COUNCILOR BENTON HAS HAD HIS HAND UP, I'M GOING TO GO TO COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO ASK MR. MELENDREZ, BASED ON HIS SUMMARY OF THE LUHO FININGS, THE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IS JUSTIFYING THIS VARIANCE IS THE -- HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT UNIQUELY BENEFITS THE -- UNIQUELY BURDENS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IT GOES TO SAY ALTHOUGH APPELLANTS CLAIM CITES RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER IS NOT UNIQUE, IT'S THE UNIQUE IMPACT HONEST THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT JUSTIFIES VARIANCE. THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE AND MAYBE COUNCILOR HARRIS MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS SAYING. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE NUMEROUS OR SEVERAL RESIDENTIAL USES ON SIMILAR PROPERTIES THAT FACE SILVER AVENUE. AND THERE ARE OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. AS IS TYPICAL OF THIS EVOLVING AREA OF NOB HILL. THAT'S WHERE I GOT STUCK BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC -- THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH WHY IS IT THAT IT AFFECTS THIS ONE PROPERTY UNIQUELY AS OPPOSED TO ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL USE? BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THE ZONING. WHY WOULDN'T THIS DECISION BE JUST BASED ON THIS ONE INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY? I GUESS THAT'S MY IMMEDIATE QUESTION. I DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THE EVIDENCE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS AN ON-STREET PARKING AND LOADING SPACE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE APPROPRIATE. THE IMPACTS ARE UNIQUE TO THIS PARTICULAR SITE BECAUSE AS A MATTER OF CONVENIENCE OR LOCATION TO BUSINESSES RECEIVING DELIVERIES, THAT PARTICULAR SITE IS FAVORED FOR TRUCKS IDLING AND DELIVERIES MADE BEING MADE FROM THAT PARTICULAR SPOT. THAT'S THE EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS BURDENED UNIQUELY. >>COUN. BENTON: I GUESS THAT'S PART OF MY QUESTION. WHEN I TALK ABOUT POLICY, IT BEING A POLICY QUESTION OR POTENTIALLY SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE FIX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OF MOVING THIS TRUCKLOADING ZONE AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO THE APPELLANTS SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO START ALLOWING ANYONE WITH SIMILAR COMPLAINTS TO PUT UP FENCES ALONG A STREET FOR WHATEVER THE VISION OF THE APPELLANTS IS YOU DON'T START PUTTING FENCES UP ON A STREET LIKE SILVER THAT'S ONE BLOCK OFF OF CENTRAL. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS COULD THIS BE REVOCABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY OWNER? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO THAT WHERE IT WOULD GO BACK TO NOT REMOVAL? IS THERE ANY REMEDY ONCE THIS IS PUT IN PLACE THEN THE FENCE WOULD BE ALLOWED AND OTHERS COULD APPLY FOR SIMILAR RELIEF. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, A VARIANCE REQUEST CAN COME WITH CONDITIONS THAT'S PART OF WHAT COMMITTED IN THE VARIANCE TEST. IT SUGGESTS THE VARIANCE SHOULD BE APPROVED TO THE GREATEST EXTENT NECESSARY TO MITT DPAT THE ALLEGED ADVERSE AND UNIQUE IMPACT. HOWEVER, ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS AS A MATTER OF LAW ON CONDITIONS OF ANY ZONING APPROVAL, IT CANNOT BE CONDITIONS TO ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL OR OTHER THAN OF THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. BENTON: RIGHT. IF THIS DECISION WERE TO STAND, THERE'S A UNIQUE REMEDY BEING APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD RUN WITH THE PROPERTY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT EXCEPTION -- SPECIAL EXCEPTION WILL RUN WITH THE PROPERTY NO MATTER WHO RECEIVES IT. LET'S SAY SOMEBODY DECIDES TO PI THAT PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE AND USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES AND NO LONGER FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO KEEP THIS. THIS IS THE CONCERN I SAID LAST TIME. A USE WITHIN A ZONE IS NOTHING BUT ONE OF MANY, IN THIS CASE, MANY USES ALLOWED WITHIN THE ZONE OR SEVERAL. SO, WE'RE SINGLING OUT THAT USE WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL USE IN A MIXED USE ZONE. AND SAYING THAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION. AND WHETHER IT WILL RUN WITH THE PROPERTY. THAT'S REALLY WHAT HAS PUZZLED ABOUT THIS. NOT TO BE DEFENSIVE OR TERRITORYIAL INTEREST OF MY OWN. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE SHOULD UNDER THE LONG-TERM IMPACTS OF THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR HARRIS AND COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: I'M HERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IN TERMS OF THE MOTION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S THE RESIDENT'S TESTIFIED ABOUT IS HAVING HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THEIR FRONT PORCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT. IN TERMS OF TAKING THE FENCE DOWN ON ONE STREET, I DON'T THINK IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS. SECONDLY, IT ALSO DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT THE RESIDENT HAS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW IT'S BEEN STATED, BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CLARIFY THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DECIDING IF THEY ACTED FRAUDULENTLY, OR ARBITRARILY, FROM EVERYTHING I'VE READ MORE THAN ONCE, EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED ON, I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENED. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BASE OUR DECISION ON WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE OR FIND A COMPROMISE FOR MAKING IT WORK BETTER. FOR THAT REASON I'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT UPHOLDING THE FINDING AND DENYING THE APPEAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN ON THIS. WE HAD OPINIONS FROM THE ZHE AND LUHO ON THIS. VERY FEW OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR RESIDENCE THAT ARE AFFECTED THIS WAY. I BELIEVE THAT I WOULD VOTE ALONG THE SAME LINE AS DECIDED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNCILORS THAT ARE WAITING TO SPEAK. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. REMEMBER, COUNCILORS, WE ARE VOTING ONLY ON THE MERITS OF WHAT WAS IN THE RECORD AND WE WILL EITHER GRANT THE APPEAL, DENY THE APPEAL, OR -- GRANT THE APPEAL AND ADOPT FINDINGS AT OUR NEXT MEETING. >> IF I MAY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS'S MOTION WAS COMPLETE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT HE WAS PROPOSING. AND THE MOTION TO RESTATE IS THAT YOU ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDING AND YOU LIMIT THE VARIANCE ONLY TO SILVER FRONTAGE. THAT'S THE MOTION THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS MADE. THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON SPECIFICALLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. OKAY COUNCILORS. WE'LL LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION. COUNCILOR BASSAN? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU;S. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ALSO SAY I AGREE THAT PERHAPS WHOEVER BUILT THIS FENCE WITHOUT A PERMIT SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT WITH PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. I KNOW WE DISCUSSED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPEAL AND ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO SAY THAT I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH A LOT OF COUNCILOR BENTON'S POLICY ARGUMENTS, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCEEDING IS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL ADOPT FINDINGS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, AGAIN, THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS. WE'LL BE ISSUING THE NOTICE OF DECISION FROM OUR OFFICE THAT INCORPORATES THOSE FINDINGS. NO FURTHER ACTION ON THIS MATTER. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B WHICH IS AC21-11. THIS IS APPEALS TO ZONING HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION. I WILL MOVE TO MR. MELENDREZ. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS ALSO DEALS WITH A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR FENCE HEIGHT. THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS GIBSON. IT'S A VACANT -- THEY ARE ASKING FOR A SIX-FOOT HIGH FENCE AROUND THE PERIMETER AT BOTH THE FRONT AND STREET SIDE YARD PROPERTY LINES. THE MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGHT AT THAT LOCATION IS ONLY THREE FEET. ZONING HEARING EXAMINE DENIED THE VARIANCE REQUEST. THE JUSTIFICATION THAT WAS MADE FOR THE VARIANCE IS THERE IS CRIME AND VANDALLISM. SIMILAR TO PAST REQUESTS THAT IS BEFORE YOU, THAT ISSUE IS TO THE EXTENT IS NOT UNIQUE TO ANY PARTICULAR PROPERTY. IT'S SOMETHING BORNE BY OTHER PROPERTIES. AND WITH THE VARIANCE, THE CLAIMED HARDSHIP NEEDS TO BE UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE VICINITY. THEY FOUND THE JUSTIFICATION OF CRIME WAS NOT UNIQUE TO THE PROPERTY AND DENIED THE VARIANCE. THEY APPEALED THE DECISION TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER, THEY RECOMMEND THAT THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER BE AFFIRMED AND THE VARIANCE BE DENIED. THEY POINTED OUT THAT EVEN IF THE VARIANCE IS DENIED THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN BUILD THE EXACT FENCE THEY'RE REQUESTING IF IT WAS SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FIVE FEET. IT'S A THIRD OF AN ACRE PARCEL. IT APPEARS TO ACCOMMODATE THE SET BACK OF FIVE FEET. THAT WOULD BE A PERMIT BY RIGHT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO DO WITHOUT A VARIANCE. JUST SET IT BACK FIVE FEET. >>COUN. BORREGO: JUST A CLARIFICATION, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THAT WOULD WE HAVE TO ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS. >> MOP ? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU DISPOSE OF THIS BY DECIDING WHETHER TO AFFIRM OR DENY THE HE, AND THEY CAN GO TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO GET THE LICENSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACCEPT THE FINDINGS. I HAVE A SECOND WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN LIGHT OF THE LAST DISCUSSION THIS IS SO SIMILAR IN SOME WAYS. THIS IS A VACANT SITE. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, THIS IS A VACATANT PROPERTY. WE HAVE LOT OF ISSUES -- I MAY BE STRAYING INTO POLICY QUESTION, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY LOTS IN THE CITY AND SPECIFICALLY IN DISTRICT TWO WHERE THERE'S A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION OF UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS WHO GO ON TO THESE PRIVATE SITES AND CAMP. THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS CITED FOR TRASH AND OTHER VIOLATIONS IN THE PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE LEFT WITH NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO FENCE OFF A SITE. UNDERSTANDING THAT AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT CAMPING ON THE SIDE WALK IS ILLEGAL, FOR INSTANCE, ONCE YOU'RE OFF THE SIDE WALK IN THE FIVE FOOT SET BACK ZONE, AGAIN, THERE COULD BE ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON IN THAT FIVE-FOOT ZONE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S STILL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. I THINK THIS RAISES DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REGULAR LY CONFRONTING PROPERTY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I SEE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THE LAST ONE. NOT LEAST OF WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT IT'S EMPTY, AN ELEMENTY LOT RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE NO FENCES THAT I CAN RECALL THAT ARE ADJACENT TO IT UNLIKE THE FIRST ONE. AND THEY'RE NOT IN THE SAME TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AS PRIOR CASES WE LOOKED AT. I'M REALLY COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT JUST MAKING THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION AND FINDINGS. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I'VE ALREADY MADE THAT MOTION. >>COUN. GIBSON: SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. CARRY ON. >>COUN. BORREGO: I ALSO SEE MR. ARANDA FROM THE -- NO. I THOUGHT I'D MENTION HE'S ON THE LINE. COUNCILORS, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHEN I PULL THIS UP, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PROPERTY THERE. IS IT VACANT? IT DOESN'T CHANGE MY OPINION, BUT I SEE A BUILDING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, A QUICK CAUTION. THE OTHER COUNCILORS DON'T HAVE WHATEVER YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S OUTSIDE IT THE RECORD. YOU SHOULD LIMIT YOUR DECISION TO WHAT IS IN THE PAPER RECORD IN THE PACKET. THAT IS THE INFORMATION PRESENTED AND SO, WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPERTY IS VACANT, THE QUESTION STILL REMAINS WHETHER OR NOT THE JUSTIFICATION OF CRIME THAT EXISTS GENERALLY IN THE AREA IS A UNIQUE HARDSHIP WITH RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHAT THEY WANT TO SELL CARS FROM IT. IT WOULD STILL REMAIN A SURFACE AREA WITH AVAILABLE FOR CARS TO BE DISPLAYED. IT COULDN'T CHANGE THE TEST YOU'RE LOOKING TO APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY. >>COUN. BASSAN: FAIR ENOUGH, IT WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED MY OPINION ANYWAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR THE WORD OF CAUTION. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE VOTE. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I GUESS IT WOULD BE OKAY TO SAY THAT THIS GENTLEMAN CAN TALK WITH ZONING TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLY MOVING THAT FENCE FIVE FEET BACK? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, ABSOLUTELY. THAT WAS THE LAND USE HEARING'S OFFICER'S RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 13 WHICH ARE APPROVALS. EC426, MAYORS RECOMMENDATION TO GUARDHOUSE FOR ARPA FUND MANAGEMENT SERVICES. I MOVE A DUE PASS. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. FOR SOME REASON I'M REVERBERATING A LITTLE BIT OVER HERE. I'M HAVING TO MUTE MYSELF. WE WILL MOVE TO FINAL ACTIONS. WE'LL START WITH ITEM B, COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BENTON, O-67 AMENDING SECTIONS OF THE TRANSIT SYSTEM ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE FOR ZERO FARE PILOT PROJECT AND CREATING A NEW SECTION 7-2-1-3. COUNCILOR SENA, PROBABLY. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION TO MOVE A DUE PASS ON THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. I GUESS WE HAVE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS IN OUR PACKETS. >>COUN. SENA: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY? I BELIEVE THERE'S A PRESENTATION. I DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT I'LL PROPOSE AFTER THE PRESENTATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. >> COUNCILORS, MADAM PRESIDENT, MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT HAS PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT PRESENT ATION WITH THE SECURITY PLAN. WE'LL HAVE MR. ROGERS GO OVER THAT WITH YOU ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >> MR. ROGERS WILL GO OVER THE PLAN FOR YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, PAUL ROGERS FROM DMD REPRESENTING SECURITY. I HAD A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR YOU, A SUMMARY OF THE SECURITY ROLE FOR THE TRANSIT AMENDMENT. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT WE PROVIDE SAFETY FOR ALL RIDERS, EMPLOYEES AND ALL OF THE PUBLIC. CERTAINLY, OUR FOCUS IS NOT ON ANYONE GROUP. IT'S HAVING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN TOTAL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OUR CURRENT STAFFING ALLOWS FOR 47 POSITIONS. OF THOSE, 41 ARE SECURITY OFFICERS, FOUR ARE FIRST LINE SUPERVISORS, AND TWO ARE SECURITY SUPERINTENDENTS OR MANAGERS. WE HAVE 31 OFFICERS ON SHIFT AT THIS TIME. FIVE ARE CURRENTLY IN TRAINING. AND WE HAVE FIVE VACANCIES. TRANSIT HAS SECURED FUNDING FOR TEN SECURITY OFFICERS FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THOSE POSITIONS ARE BEING CREATED BY HUMAN RESOURCES AS WE SPEAK. WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT SECURITY FOR THE TRANSIT SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE HAVING A THREE-FOLD APPROACH. WE HAVE OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE TRANSIT CENTER AT FIRST AND CENTRAL. THAT IS A TWO-OFFICER TEAM PATROLLING THAT ON FOOT. THEY DO THAT 24-7. THEY'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE. AND THE SECOND PRONG WOULD BE A MOBILE FIELD UNIT. THAT IS AN OFFICER IN THE VEHICLE, THEY CAN BE DISPATCHED FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM APD, AFR, TRANSIT DISPATCH, OR OUR OWN INTERNAL DISPATCH SHOULD WE BE MADE AWARE OF SOMETHING THAT NEEDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. THE MOBILE FIELD UNITS ALSO CARRY FIRST AID EQUIPMENT WITH AUTOMATIC DEFIBULATORS AND NARCAN. THEY'RE RESPONDING FOR CALLS AND SERVICE AND NEEDS ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE. THAT IS THEIR FOCUS. THE THIRD PRONG IS THE BUS SECURITY TEAMS WHERE WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS, THEY WORK IN PAIR AND TRAVELLING RANDOM ROUTES WITHIN THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR. THEY CHANGE BUSES FREQUENTLY TO MAXIMIZE DETERRENCE AND PRESENCE ON THE BUSES. WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR I'M TALKING ABOUT CENTRAL SPECIFICALLY FROM UNSER OR THE CENTRAL AND UNSER TRANSIT FACILITY EAST-BOUND ON CENTRAL TO TRAMWAY WHICH IS DETERMINED AS THE EAST TERMINUS OF THAT ROUTE. THERE'S THREE ROUTES ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND FROM THE HEAT MAPS WE'VE RECEIVED TALKING ABOUT BUS STOP CALL FOR SERVICE AND ACTIVITY, THAT IS FAR AND ABOVE THE FOCUS OF THE ATTENTION. THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF CALLS. AS A SAMPLING OF INCIDENTS IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THIS YEAR, THE STATISTICS ON THE LEFT MIGHT BE LIGHT AS WE ARE SEARCHING THROUGH OUR RECORDS. WE'RE HOPING TO AUTOMATE THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE FUTURE. THE IMPORTANT NUMBER IS WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 135 TRANSIT-RELATED INCIDENTS THAT OUR GUYS RESPONDED TO. THE INCIDENTS ON THE BUSES WERE 32. 23.7% WHICH IS GOOD NEWS. OF THOSE TRANSIT RELATED INCIDENTS, THE MAJORITY ARE HAPPENING AT STOPS OR FACILITIES. AND A SMALL PERCENTAGE IS OCCURRING ON THE BUSES. OF THOSE, 5% INVOLVE WEAPONS, ANOTHER GOOD STATISTIC, THE LOWER THE BETTER. NO FIREARMS IN THESE INSTANCES. IN MOST THEY WERE KNIFES OR ROCKS. AND THE RIGHT COLUMN, YOU'LL SEE THE MAJOR CALLS RESPONDED TO. OF NOTE, THE VOLUME OF DISORDLY CONDUCT. THAT -- LATELY, THE LAST THREE MONTHS IT'S FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE HEALTH ORDER. NOT WEARING A FACE MASK WHILE ON TRANSPORTATION. OF ALL THOSE CALLS, WE REQUESTED APD TO RESPOND ON 24 OCCASIONS AND ARRESTS WERE MADE IN THREE INCIDENTS. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT WE'RE PLANNING TO MEET WITH TRANSIT AND HAVE ALREADY STEPPED UP OUR COLLABORATION WITH TRANSIT. WE DON'T LIVE IN A STATIC ENVIRONMENT. IT'S VERY DYNAMIC. WE ARE COMPARING FREQUENTLY TO DID THE IF OUR RESPONSE PLAN IS APPROPRIATE OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE. THE LAST SLIDE IS SPECIFIC TO BUS CALL FOR SERVICE. YOU CAN SEE YELLOW TO RED. THAT'S WHERE THE CALLS ARE VERY HIGH. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THOSE AREAS. THE MORE SOUTHERNLY RED DOT IS FIRST AND CENTRAL. THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED BETWEEN THE APC TRAFFIC AND THE BUS STOPS. THAT'S VERY HIGH AREA VOLUME. THE SECOND IS ONE IS ADJACENT TO CORONADO. I DON'T KNOW OATS IT'S RELATED TO THE BUS STOP. I THINK IT'S FOR THE SAKE OF THE STATISTIC, IT'S RELATE TODAY THE BUS STOP. HOWEVER, A LOT OF THAT IS FLOW OVER FROM CORONADO. ALONG THAT CENTRAL CORRIDOR WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YELLOW DOTS THAT ARE STARTING TO EMERGE IN ORANGE. THAT IS THE AREA OF PENNSYLVANIA AND CENTRAL AND WASHINGTON AND CENTRAL. AND SOME OF THE MORE LARGER YELLOW SPOTS, WHICH IS LOW ACTIVITY, BUT ON RADAR, IS WYOMING AND CENTRAL AND SAN PEDRO AND CENTRAL. CERTAINLY, THERE'S NO SURPRISES HERE. THOSE HOT SPOTS ARE THOSE AREAS WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE CHANGING BUSES. AGAIN, TO INCREASE THAT DETERRENCE AND MAXIMIZE PRESENCE, YOU CAN SEE OTHER DOTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE BEING HANDLED BY SECURITY FACILITY MOBILES, MOST NOTEALLY THE UNIVERSITY. WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA ON UNIVERSITY. WE'VE GOT MOBILES CHECKING THAT AREA PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY. THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION. I STAND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, MY QUESTION, I UNDERSTAND AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND OVERVIEW BUT I WANT TO NOTE THAT OF THE 135 INCIDENTS FROM THE SIX-MONTH PERIOD, HOW MANY RIDERS WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU ENCOUNTERED WITHIN THE SIX-MONTH PERIOD? >> THAT QUESTION IS FOR DIRECTOR HOLCOMB. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, I CAN GET YOU THE TOTALS. I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME. I CAN GET YOU THOSE BY TOMORROW MORNING. >>COUN. SENA: OF 135 INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED, THE 23.7% OF THE INCIDENTS OCCURRING ON BUSES OUT OF THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF RIDERS THAT DID UTILIZE THE BUS BETWEEN THAT PERIOD. THERE WAS 135 INCIDENTS OF THOSE THOUSANDS THAT DID RIDE THE BUS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WE AVERAGE HUNDREDS OF OF THOUSANDS OF PASSENGERS A MONTH. YOU'RE RIGHT. THE PERCENTAGE IS LOW. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, PAUL ROGERS, AND I APPRECIATE THE BRIEFING. I THINK YOU'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS THOROUGHLY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING SOME MORE OFFICERS AVAILABLE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT WITH REGARD TO THE EXACT STATISTIC THAT COUNCILOR SENA WAS ASKING ABOUT, THOSE INCIDENTS, HOW ARE THOSE INCIDENTS REPORTED? THIS IS BY GENERAL PUBLIC OR SECURITY DOCUMENTATION OF THE INCIDENTS? WHO IS DOING THAT REPORTING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, IT'S KIND OF A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THOSE. WE GET THE CALLS IN FROM APD, AFR, TRANSIT AND SOME PROACTIVELY ON VIEW. THEY ARE DOCUMENTED IN EITHER INCIDENT REPORTS OR DAILY ACTIVITY REPORTS DEPENDING ON THEIR SEVERITY AND THE ACTION WE TAKE. AND THIRD, AS A MANNER TO CHECK WHAT WE HAVE, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH TRANSIT AND THEIR DISPATCH RECORDS. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S MOSTLY INTERNAL REPORTS AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC REPORTING? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: FROM MY EXPERIENCE, SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS MIGHT GET SOME UPHEAVAL OCCURS ON THE PUS, BUS, LOT OF THE RIDERS WILL MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS. I TAKE THESE STATISTICS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I RGS APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE MORE OFFICERS IN THE PIPELINE. TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE I GUESS THERE'S THE NARRATIVE THAT I'M HOLDING UP THE LEGISLATION, WHICH I'M A CO-SPONSOR OF, BECAUSE OF SECURITY. IT WAS NOT SO MUCH THAT, IT WAS WANTING TO GET THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO GIVE US AND TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. ESPECIALLY SINCE IN THE RECENT PAST SINCE TRENDS IN THE SECURITY HAVE MOVED INTO METRO SECURITY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS IN THE QUEUE. I'LL GO BACK TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO MOVE MY AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL CALL THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. SENA: THIS IS EASY, I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE. ON PAGE ONE, LINE 12 FOR THE OCTOBER 1, 2021, AND INSERT JANUARY 1, 2022. AN EXPLANATION IS IT ALLOWS SOME TIME, AND THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM TO TRAIN DRIVERS OF THE NEW BUS PROCEDURES AND HELPING REIMBURSE THOSE THAT HAVE PURCHASED PASSES IN THE PAST. AND PROVIDING SOME MEDIA OUTREACH TO ALLOW CONSTITUENTS TO LET THEM KNOW WE'RE PROVIDING ZERO FARES. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE DISCUSSED AND I'M GRATEFUL TO THE OTHER COUNCILORS. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU REGARDING THIS TO AVOID QUORUM ISSUES. I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN STRIVING FOR. AND THROUGH THE CALENDAR YEAR WE CAN REALLY MAKE THIS HAPPEN. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WAS OFFERING A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: I KNOW I'LL GIVE TIME TO MY CO-SPONSORS, ESPECIALLY COUNCILORS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I KNOW THAT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION PREVIOUSLY AT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP. WE ALL KNOW AND HAVE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS OF JUST HOW MUCH THIS IMPACTED THEIR LIVES. FOR ME, SEEING THAT WE'VE PAID FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUSES THAT THIS MAKES SENSE IN PROVIDING IT. I KNOW THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM. WE'LL SEE THE FLUCTUATIONS OF HOW THIS WILL BE. IT'S GOOD AS A FIRST START. WE'LL SEE HOW OUR RIDERSHIP INCREASES. AND HOW IT SUPPORTS OUR WORKING FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DOKNOW THAT MOST OF OUR RIDERS ARE BELOW 150% THE POVERTY LEVELS. MOST OF THEM ARE UTILIZING IT TO GO TO WORK, SCHOOL, GROCERY SHOPPING. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN TO MY CO-SPONSORS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WAS HAPPY AT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF COUNCILOR SENA. I KNOW OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE BEEN REALLY PUSHING FOR THIS FOR SOME TIME. AND PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR IS TIME TO GET DONE. I THANK COUNCILOR SENA FOR HER ADVOCACY ON THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR DAVIS? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO THANK MY CO-SPONSORS. I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THE ADVOCATES. PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED ON THE TRANSIT ADVISORY BOARD. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF THIS INITIATIVE. GROUPS LIKE TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS WHO THREE YEARS AGO, WE HEARD FROM THEM. AND STARTED LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME. IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION. I THINK IT'S WISE WE'RE STARTING ON JANUARY 1. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS FOR THAT. DATA COLLECTION AND THE VARIOUS REASONS COUNCILOR SENA DESCRIBED. THANKS FOR THE CO-SPONSORS AND ADVOCATES. >>COUN. DAVIS: ECHO NAUGHT NOT TO THE COUNCILORS AND CO-SPONSORS BUT THE STAFF. AND INCLUDING THE FOLKS IN TRANSIT AND MAYOR'S OFFICE. WE HAD TO CONVINCE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND DO HOMEWORK TO GET THE INFORMATION ERIGHT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THIS. I KNOW MY OFFICE WORKED WITH TWO TRANSIT DIRECTORS AND STAFF TO GET THROUGH THE DATA. THAT WAS JUST ON OUR SIDE AND NOT TO MENTION THE ADVOCATE WORK OF OTHER COUNCILORS. IT REALLY DID GO A LONG WAY TO GET THIS DONE. AT THE END OF THE DAY FOLKS WILL HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THIS WILL HAP LET ME SAY, WE SAW MS. MAY SPEAKING VERY PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS FROM HOME. AND WHEN WE TELL YOU COUNCILORS, THIS IS SOMETHING PEOPLE SUPPORT. SOME OF YOU SAW ON TWITTER MS. MAY AWOKENED MY HOME LAST WEEK AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SHE TOOK THE BUS AT 7:30 TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TRYING THIS. I'VE NEVER HAD A CONSTITUENT TO COME TO MY HOUSE TO SEND A THANK YOU PROTEST. THIS IS SOMETHING REALLY DO CARE ABOUT. IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I APPRECIATE AND SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED ON THIS. STARTING WITH THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CARRIED THIS FORWARD. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS AND THANK YOU INTEREST THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. I HAVE TO SAY IN THE BEGINNING I WASN'T SURE I WAS GOING TO VOTE ON THIS. WITH ALL OF THE ADVOCACY AND INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC AND STAFF. I'M SURE ABOUT MY DECISION THIS EVENING. AND ALSO HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENTS I APPRECIATE THOSE EMAILS. WE DO READ THEM. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM C, WHICH IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR BENTON. R-173. AMENDING RESOLUTION 21-148 ESTABLISHING ONE-YEAR OBJECTIVES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IN FISCAL YEAR 2022 TO INCLUDE ZERO FARE TRANSIT PILOT OBJECTIVE TO MEET FIVE-YEAR GOALS. >>COUN. SENA: I'LL MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS? >>COUN. SENA: I'LL MOVE AN AMENDMENT SO THIS CORRELATES WITH THE ORDINANCE WE JUST PASSED TO ALSO AMEND THE LANGUAGE HERE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND YOUR AMENDMENT. WE'LL CALL THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN. IT'S JUST CHANGING THOSE DATES TO CORRELATE WITH OUR CALENDAR YEARS. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, THAT PASSES. COUNCILOR SENA, DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL? >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL CLOSE ON THE RESOLUTION AS AMENDED. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT'S ITEM C. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM D. COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR DAVIS, R-178. >>COUN. SENA: R-178 IS AMENDING THE CITY OPERATING BUDGET LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY THE INTENT TO HAVE A ZERO FARE PILOT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. SENA: I'LL MOVE THE AMENDMENT TO ALSO CHANGE THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE AS SIMILAR TO ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION WE JUST PASSED. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THAT IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. THANK YOU FOR THAT SECOND, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? ON THE AMENDMENT. I DO NOT SEE ANY. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THE AMENDMENT PASSES ON 8-0 VOTE. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. R-178. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE ONLY AMENDMENT LEFT. VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTION, THIS JUST CLARIFIES LANGUAGE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THAT PASSES ON A 7-0 VOTE. WE HAVE DEFERRED O-69. I'M GOING TO JUMP TO ITEM G, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO WITHDRAWAL, AT THIS TIME. DO I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY I WITHDRAW THIS BILL. WE'RE COMBINING M10 AND M11. I'LL HAVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR M11. WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT. WE'LL BRING THE AMENDED BILL BACK TO YOU IN OCTOBER. THAT IS WHY I'M MOVING TO WITHDRAW M10. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM H, WHICH IS M11. COUNCILORS, AFTER THIS, I THINK WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK AND WE WILL HEAR ITEM O-71 WHICH. WITH THAT, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS MOVE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR M11. AND WE WILL HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I NEED TO MOVE M11. I THOUGHT WE MOVED IT IN THE LAST MEETING, CHRIS. MOVE IT AGAIN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FOR THE SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY EGZ QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU MENTIONED THIS WILL REQUIRE REPOSTING THIS, WE'LL DEFER THIS TO A FUTURE MEETING? >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I WILL MOVE A DEFERRAL ON THIS FLOOR SUB. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR THE SECOND. MS. ORTEGA ON THE VOTE. >> TO CLARIFY THIS DEFERRAL IS TO OCTOBER 4th SPH. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO F. O-71, WE'LL COME BACK AT 6:30. >>COUN. BORREGO: WELCOME BACK, WE'RE ON ITEM F, AND ACTUALLY I HAD A REQUEST DURING OUR BREAK, COUNCILORS, AND THIS IS ITEM 13 UNDER APPROVALS. I HAD A REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM I UP ON THE AGENDA. I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH COUNCILOR BENTON AND HE AGREED. WE HAVE VOLUNTEER BOARDS OF THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO JUMP OFF THE CALL. I'M GOING TO ALLOW R-195 BEFORE O-71 COUNCILORS. I WILL MOVE R-195 DIRECTING THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY PROVIDE TRAINING COMPLIANCE REPORT FOR MEMBERS OF THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY BOARD ARE RESPECT TO TRAINING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE COURT-APPROVED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE C HAD ORDINANCE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE REPORT. THAT'S IN YOUR iPADS. I'M SORRY, IT'S JUST THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT BOARD MEMBERS ON THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE CPOA BOARD ERIC OLIVAS, AND MS. GALLOWAY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BORREGO, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I WANTED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT TO COMMENT ON THIS RESOLUTION AND OFFER ANY POTENTIAL HELP THAT I CAN AS BOARD CHAIR. IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AFTER WE BECAME AWARE OF SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I THINK THIS RESOLUTION IS ASKING ABOUT, WE ACTED AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD TO IDENTIFY TRAINING DEFICIENCIES AND OUTLINE WHERE ISSUES WERE. I BELIEVE IT WAS ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY AFTERNOON WE WERE ABLE TO SEND AN UPDATED SPREADSHEET DETAILS MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE CONCERNS RAISED IN THE RESOLUTION TO COUNCILOR BORREGO AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION AND CITY ATTORNEY AND DOJ AND MONITOR. I ALSO ASKED THAT MR. SYLVAN AND MR. MOYA TO FORWARD THAT TO TO ALL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. I HOPE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT. I REALIZE THAT WAS VERY SHORT NOTICE FOR EVERYONE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THAT BEFORE YOU CONSIDER THIS RESOLUTION, GIVEN THAT I THINK IN LARGE PART IT PROBABLY MAKES THIS NULL AND VOID GIVEN THAT WE'VE -- THROUGH OUR DIRECTOR, LEGAL COUNSEL, AND BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COMPILED THIS TRAINING INFORMATION AND UPDATED EVERYTHING TO SHOW WHERE THERE ARE DEFICIENCIES IN THE FEW AREAS AND IDENTIFIED IN THE LETTER WHY CERTAIN BOARD MEMBERS WERE IDENTIFIED AS NOT HAVING COMPLETED TRAINING WHEN IN FACT THEY HAD. AS SOON AS WE BECAME AWARE OF THOSE ISSUES, THERE'S REPORTING ISSUES THAT OCCURRED WHERE MEMBERS HAVE COMPLETED THEIR TRAINING AND NOT REPORTED IT, OR IN SOME CASES, THE TRAINING WAS REPORTED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND IT WAS NOT RECORDED IN MY TRAINING LOG BUT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE MONITOR AND POTENTIALLY SHARED WITH YOU ALL AT SOME POINT. WE'VE CORRECTED THOSE ISSUES OF NOW. AND THROUGH WORKING WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND AGENCY DIRECTOR WE'RE WORKING TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS. WE'LL USE SOME OF THE CITY HR SYSTEMS. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS A MATTER OF SENDING AN EMAIL TO THE DIRECTOR AND THE DIRECTOR RECORDING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE USING HITTY -- CITY HR SYSTEM. OUTLINED IN THE LETTER WE HAVE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE COUNCIL ON ADDRESSING SOME OF THIS TRAINING. AS COUNCILOR BORREGO ALLUDED TO, WE'RE AN ALL VOLUNTEER BOARD. I BELIEVE WE WANT TO BE THE PROFESSIONAL AND INCLUSIVE BOARD IN THE CITY, BUT WE NEED HELP WITH THAT. PART OF THAT COMES DOWN TO TRAINING. WE NEED GOOD TRAINING, BUT I THINK THERE'S AREAS IN THE TRAINING WHERE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY PIECES OF TRAINING THAT AREN'T NECESSARY AND MAYBE SOME THAT ARE NECESSARY BUT NOT INCLUDED. HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNCILORS NEEDS TOO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. I CERTAINLY PLEDGE TO BE REACHING OUT TO COUNCILORS IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS TO BEGIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE PARTIES ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ON THAT LATER THIS WEEK. SO, I REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING WITH YOU ALL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DIALOGUE SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THESE ISSUES AND MOVE FORWARD COLLABORATIVE TO ADDRESS THEM. AGAIN, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT LETTER AND THOSE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND TRAINING DEFICIENCIES IN YOUR POSSESSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WILL TELL YOU THAT I DID READ THAT REPORT. AND ALL COUNCILORS DID RECEIVE THAT REPORT IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND MS. GALLOWAY FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT AND YOU'RE VOLUNTEERS. THAT REPORT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO ME. I WILL MENTION TO YOU BECAUSE IT OUTLINED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE WITH TRAINING AND KEEPING MEMBERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. I THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE REPORT WHEN WE TALKED COMPLIANCE AND THAT WAS IN YOUR LAST STATEMENT AND PARAGRAPH OF THAT REPORT, IT GAVE A REALLY GOOD CONCLUSION, I THOUGHT, OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WHICH I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY, IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO MS. GALLOWA AND GO TO COUNCILORS FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MS. GALLOWAY. >> ERIC, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? >> NO, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU INTEREST THE FOR THE TIME. THE ONLY THING IN ADDITION TO THE COMMENTS AND THE LETTER WE'VE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL IS PROBABLY THE AVENUES BY WHICH TRAINING IS RECEIVED COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND THOSE AS WELL AND MAKING THOSE TRAININGS EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE. AGAIN, BEARINGEN MIND THAT THE MEMBERS ARE ON THE BOARD AREVULE EN -- VOLUNTEERS. AND END UP WITH A BOARD OF RETIREES, WE NEED TO BEAR IN MIND THAT MANY MEMBERS HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS. EVERY TIME WE ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND TRAINING WE HAVE TO NOT ONLY TAKE THE TIME AWAY FROM OUR FAMILIES AND TAKE TIME FROM WORK AND LOSE COMPENSATION. BARRING CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE AMIKI, WE'RE THE ONLY PARTICIPANTS NOT RECEIVING COMPENSATION FOR THE WORK WE DO. THE MONITORING TEAM, YOURSELVES, CITY ATTORNEY, DOJ, OUR ATTORNEYS AND STAFF RECEIVES COMPENSATION, AND WE DON'T. I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND AND WISE AND PRUDENT AND ALL OF THE THINGS, AT THE VERY BEGINNING A VERY LABORIOUS TRAINING SCHEDULE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO MAKE THIS BOARD AS DIVERSE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY AS IT CAN. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE SPREADSHEET THERE'S AMBIGUITY AS TO WHEN CERTAIN TRAININGS ARE REQUIRED. I WILL SAY FOR MY PART AND HAVE TAKEN A GREAT DEAL OF TIME OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS INCORPORATING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK OF OUR NEWER MEMBERS IN REDESIGNING OUR ON BOARDING PROCESS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET THIS NEW MEMBER THAT WILL BE COMING TO US IN A MORE PRACTICAL TRAINING SCHEDULE. AND WE ARE TAKING STEPS ON OUR OWN TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE THINGS WORK WELL FOR VOLUNTEERS AND BE MANAGEABLE TO TAKE THEM BY CHUNKS. OTHER THAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE REPORT SUBMITTED. AND THE ACOMPANYING LETTER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS ABOUT THE REPORT? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S MORE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS THE SPONSOR, BEING AS THE BILL SAID YOU WOULD LIKE A REPORT BEFORE SEPTEMBER 28, IS IT NECESSARY TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION? >>COUN. BORREGO: I BELIEVE IT IS. YES. IT IS. WE ARE UNDER A COMMITMENT HERE. IT'S IMPORTANT. >>COUN. BASSAN: CAN I FOLLOW UP TO THAT, JUST ANOTHER QUESTION. DOES THIS REPORT SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT? IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOES, CONSIDERING WHAT I READ IN THE RESOLUTION. I'M ASKING BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BE AWARE IF THEY NEED TO ADD SOMETHING MORE ADDITIONAL IF YOU'RE EXPECTING SOMETHING FURTHER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, I THINK THAT THE -- FIRST OF ALL EXTREME KUDOS TO THE VOLUNTEERS THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER ON SUCH A SHORT TIMELINE. WITH RESPECT TO PASSING THE RESOLUTION WHAT IT CALLS IS FOR THE DISCUSSION TO CONTINUE THROUGH OCTOBER 4th. AND BY PASSING THE RESOLUTION IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION AND HAVE MEETINGS POTENTIALLY WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND GET MORE INFORMATION AND DEVELOP SOME THOUGHTS AS THE COUNCIL PROCEEDS TO DEAL WITH THIS TRAINING ISSUE, OVERALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT DOES THE -- ARE WE EXPECTING THE CPOA BOARD TO ACTUALLY DO MORE? OR DOES THIS SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF THEM PROVIDING THIS REPORT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE. IT DOES MEET EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS LOOKING FOR. HOWEVER, THE CITY HAS A WHOLE TEAM OF FOLKS THAT REPRESENT THE CITY AND ENGAGE THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND MONITOR TEAM. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO CONSULT WITH THAT GROUP BEFORE MAKING THE DETERMINATION CONCLUSIVELY. BY PASSING THAT TONIGHT THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION UNTIL OCTOBER 4th. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, AND COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M OKAY WITH THIS RESOLUTION WITH ONE RATHER LARGE EXCEPTION. THAT IS THE PART ABOUT INVITING OR ASKING THE MEMBERS TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHY THEY HAVEN'T MET WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF TRAINING. I FIND THAT VERY HEAVY--HANDED, AT LEAST. AGAIN, THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS THAT SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. A LOT OF NOT ONLY TIME BUT WORK AND THE TRAINING IS IMMENSE, I UNDERSTAND WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING THAT ORDINANCE AND MAKING CHANGES AND UPDATES. I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE REVIEWED WITH THE HELP OF THE CURRENT MEMBERS ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THIS. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN VOTING TO SUPPORT IT WITH THAT LANGUAGE REQUIRING OR ASKING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMINOLOGY IS WITH FOR THEM TO RETURN. THEY'VE DONE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. THEY WROTE A LETTER, THEY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS, THEY EVEN PUT IT INTO A SPREADSHEET. I SUPPOSE WE CAN PASS THIS RESOLUTION BUT WITH KNOWLEDGE THAT WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS SITTING IN FRONT OF US. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE'RE -- OR WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION IS, UNLESS IT IS TO SATISFY THE CASA TEAM. >>COUN. BORREGO: MAYBE I CAN TAKE A STAB AT THAT. >>COUN. GIBSON: LET ME FINISH, I'M ALMOST DONE. I WON'T INTERRUPT YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT COULD BE THE REASON THAT WE'RE SATISFYING SOMETHING THAT THE MONITORING TEAM HAS ASKED FOR. ABSENT THAT, I THINK JUST FOR SOMEBODY IN CITY HALL TO SAY WE NEED THIS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH REASON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M FINISHED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, I CAN'T ALWAYS TELL WHEN I'M FINISHED. WE WERE REALLY LOOKING FOR MORE OF A DIALOGUE AND REALLY EXTENDING AN INVITATION IF WE NEED TO SOFTEN THAT LANGUAGE, WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE AN AMENDMENT. I SEE MR. AGUILAR ON THE SCREEN. I'M GATHERING HE MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >> YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IF I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THERE. EARLIER IN THE MONTH THE MEMBERS OF THE MONERRING TEAM AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTING LET US KNOW THERE'S DEFICIENCIES WITH THE TRAINING OF THE BOARD MEMBERS. WE MET AFTER THAT POINT WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS THE RESOLUTION IS THE MECHANISM AS THE COUNCIL AS A BODY CAN HOLD AND EXERCISE OVERSIGHT OVER THE BOARD WHICH IS ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNCIL AND IS PROVIDED FOR SPECIFICALLY IN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION PROVIDED. WE HAVE ALSO MADE NUMEROUS OTHER INFORMATIONAL REQUESTS WE'RE WAITING ON. THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE BOARD REMAINS IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT IS UP IN THE AIR. AS FAR AS HAD COUNCIL IS CONCERNED, THIS ALLOWS THE COUNCIL ALLOWS THE DIALOGUE AND ENGAGE IN SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES. SOME OF THESE PRE-DATED THE PANDEMIC AND ARE NOT SIMPLY, IN OUR VIEW, ERRORS WITH HAVING TOO MUCH TO DO IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. RATHER, THESE ARE SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT IS MISSING IN SOME OF THESE MEMBERS ARE THE CORE TOOLS THAT WILL HELP THEM DO THEIR JOBS, WHICH IS REVIEWING COMPLAINTS OF CITIZENS OF MISCONDUCT AS WELL AS LOOKING AT AND IDENTIFYING AREAS OF POLICIES THAT CAN BE FIXED IN MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DEPARTMENT. IF THE COUNCIL HAS HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. >>COUN. BORREGO: AS LONG AS YOU'RE THERE, DO YOU FEEL THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE THIS LANGUAGE? AND MAKE IT MORE INVITING. RATHER THAN DIRECTIVE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT,THAT WOULD BE THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. GO BACK TO YOU SINCE YOU RAISED THE ISSUE. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. I THINK IT'S ONE THING TO ASK FOR THE RECORD, THE OUT OF COMPLIANCES ARE LARGELY OF LACK OF REPORTING. NOT LACK OF REPORTING, THEY WERE REPORTED, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ORGANIZED INTO A REPORT. THERE WASN'T ANY -- IT DOESN'T LIKE THERE IS ANY MAL-INTENT OR ANYTHING COUNCILOR BORREGO BRINGING THIS FORWARD. WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN AN UPDATE OTHERWISE. IT WOULD HAVE SHOWN NONCOMPLIANCE AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION OF SOME OF THESE UPDATES. FOR ME, I'M THINKING BACK TO THE THING WHETHER IT'S NOW OR FOUR MONTHS FROM NOW IF THE MISCOMMUNICATION CONTINUES IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT HERE. ESPECIALLY THE CITY ATTORNEYS RELATES TO THE CASA THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THESE TRAININGS ARE DONE AS DIRECTED BY THE COURT-APPROVED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. IT'S NOT JUST US THAT'S BOUND BY IT BUT ALSO OUR BOARD. AND THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW, IN TERMS OF THEIR COMPLIANCE, AS WAS SAID, AND THAT'S WHY OF COURSE WE DON'T WISH TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT INDEPENDENCE, HOWEVER WHEN IT COMES TO OUR IMR IN THE NEXT REVIEW, WE WANT TO GET EVERYONE INTO COMPLIANCE. THAT ALSO RELATES TO OUR CPOA. I THINK THAT THE MAIN ISSUE HERE IS WHETHER IT'S GETTING THE TRAINING ON BOARD, AND I UNDERSTAND ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO COVID AND NOT BEING ABLE TO FALL INTO THAT COMPLIANCE, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW. AND WE'RE REVIEWING ALL OF THE TRAININGS TO SEE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE TRAINING AND HOW MUCH HOURS THE BOARD ARE HAVING TO GO THROUGH WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPECIFIC TRAINING NOT JUST ASKED BY IN ORDINANCE BUT BY CASA, I KNOW THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE TRAINING. I JUST WANT TO CONVEY THAT TO BOTH OUR CHAIR OLIVAS AND VICE-CHAIR GALLOWAY AS TO THIS LEGISLATION. I WOULDN'T WANT US TO BRING THIS LEGISLATION AGAIN TWO YEARS FROM NOW OR LESS IF THERE ARE NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT BEHIND IN HAVING TO MAINTAIN THEM. IT'S OUR DUTY AS COUNCILORS TO PUT THAT LEGISLATION FORWARD AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL IN COMPLIANCE BUT ALSO OFFER SUPPORT. WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTIES OF TRAINING. BUT HAD THIS LEGISLATION NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, THE ISSUE OF NON-COMPLIANCE AND UPDATING US ON TRAINING HOURS WOULDN'T HAVE OCCURRED. THAT'S WHY I DO APPRECIATE THIS LEGISLATION. I DO HOPE THIS REALLY ENGAGES US AS COUNCIL TO MEET WITH SOME OF THE CPOA BOARD MEMBERS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I AGREE PARTIALLY WITH WHAT COUNCILOR GIBSON IS SAYING. I AGREE WE DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE BURDEN ON THE BOARD MEMBERS. I DON'T WANT TO BACK THEM INTO A CORNER FOR SOME KIND OF PERCEIVED OFFENSE. BUT WHEN I READ SECTION TWO IT SAYS THEY'RE INVITED TO, NOT THEY SHALL. IF THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO COME TALK TO US. I DON'T SEE IT BEING TOO AGGRESSIVE EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND NOT WANTING TO FORCE THEM INTO SOME KIND OF DEFENSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS INTENDED TO CONTINUE A DIALOGUE WITH THE BOARD AND EXTEND THE INVITATION OF THE BOARD OPENING THE DOOR TO COME AND TALK WITH COUNCILORS AS NECESSARY. I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S INTENDED TO BE HEAVY-HANDED. WE ARE TRYING TO MEET COMPLIANCE ALSO. I THINK THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS, AS THEY'RE TRAINED, UNDERSTAND WE ARE TRYING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CASA. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS UP. MR. OLIVAS, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BORREGO. I'LL TRY AND BE QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT IS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE AND BY CASA. BEING AWARE OF THESE ISSUES WAS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS. WE'RE COMMITTED TO FIXING THIS AND WORKING WITH COUNSEL. I HAVE TWO REQUESTS THAT WE KEEP THIS DIALOGUE GOING AND THESE CHANGES BE MADE IN THE CONTEXT OF SPEAKING TO THOSE FOLKS THAT KNOW THE SYSTEM BEST AND BY THAT I MEAN BOARD MEMBERS. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE THE ONLY STAKEHOLDERS OR THE ONLY FOLKS, BUT I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE THE BEST EYES ON WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE AND WHAT THE SOLUTIONS MAY BE. I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT DIALOGUE ONGOING AND I'LL COMMIT TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY OF YOU AS I POSSIBLY CAN. I DO WORK, THIS IS A DEMANDING JOB AMONG ANOTHER DEMANDING JOB I HAVE. I'LL DO MY BEST TO BE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE. SECONDLY, I ALSO WANTED TO REACH WITH A MORE URGENT REQUEST, ONE OF THE TRAINING REQUIREMENT IS CIVILIAN POLICE ACADEMY. IT'S A REQUIREMENT TO BE COMPLETD WITHIN SIX MONTHS. AND AT LEAST ONE OF MY MEMBERS EXPRESSED EXTREME DISCOMFORT IN-PERSON. AS YOU KNOW THERE'S NO VACCINE MANDATE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES OR ANY ATTENDING THAT. I'M NOT GETTING INTO THAT. IT JUST MAKES THIS INDIVIDUAL UNCOMFORTABLE, IT'S NOT MY POSITION TO JUDGE THAT. GIVEN THAT, SHE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO GO TO THE TRAINING. WE ASK THE DEPARTMENT PROVIDE THAT TRAINING BY ZOOM, THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED. AND WE REQUESTED THAT MR. AGUILAR FINDING A RESOLUTION TO THAT. THAT REQUEST WAS ALSO REJECTED AS BEING THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND A SOLUTION TO THAT. IT IS FRUSTRATING, THAT IS A THREE-MONTH, TWO NIGHTS A WEEK, THREE HOURS A NIGHT. WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND EVERY SESSION, BUT IT'S A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT OF TIME. NOW IN THE CURRENT PANDEMIC ENVIRONMENT WE NEED IMMEDIATE RELIEF OF THAT OF GETTING ACCESS TO THE TRAINING OR BEING RELIEVED OF THAT FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME. AGAIN, I WANT TO CONTINUE DIALOGUE AND I WANT TO THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. OLIVAS. THESE ARE THE ISSUES WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE DIALOGUE ON. I KNOW WHEN I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THE MONITOR AND MR. HARNESS AND SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM LEGAL I MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, I MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO DO SOME VIDEO TRAINING. HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. AND I HAVE YET TO SEE THAT. I THINK IT'S A DIALOGUE THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO CONTINUE. MS. GALLOWAY, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. >> I DID. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THE OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE HAS DIRECTED OUR AGENCY OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO BE REACHING OUT TO CITY COUNCILLORS FOR THESE VERY PURPOSES TO OPEN UP DIALOGUE. PARTICULARLY AT THE BEGINNING OF COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR SENA'S TIME TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES, THE WORK WE DO, BRING THEM ON BOARD. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN MADE OF COUNCIL STAFF AND WORKING WITH THE SCHEDULES. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN DID MAKE HERSELF AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH CERTAIN MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD AS WELL. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TASKED THE AGENCY WITH SETTING UP. THEY'RE THE ONES WITH THE CONTACTS. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. I REACHED OUT TO COUNCILOR SENA'S OFFICE TODAY TO TRY AND ARRANGE A MEETING WITH HER, INDIVIDUALLY. I WOULD SAY THE OFFER IS OUT, THE DESIRE IS OUT, IF THAT'S NOT MAKING IT TO YOU ALL, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT SO WE CAN BE THE MASTERS OF OUR OWN DESTINY. IF THE REQUESTS WE'RE MAKING ARE NOT OCCURRING, WE DO WANT TO MEET WITH YOU ALL. AND TO ONE OTHER POINT THAT COUNCILOR SENA MADE, I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU THAT THE ISSUE WE CAME ACROSS AS WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT DEFICIENCIES IN TRAINING THAT WE KNEW WAS BECAUSE OF RECORD-KEEPING. THE RECORDS WERE NOT KEPT WELL AND THAT'S A PROBLEM WE'VE ADDRESSED INTERNALLY. WHAT MAY BE SEEN AS DEFICIENCIES, BY AND LARGE IS NOT ACCURATE. MEMBERS ARE RECEIVING THE TRAINING ON THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO. THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS ARE TRAININGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN OFFERED BY THE DEPARTMENT REQUIRED. THAT'S NOT A DECISION WE'VE MADE IT'S A DECISION THEY HAVE MADE GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THE PANDEMIC OR IN ONE MEMBER'S CASE JUST A LACK OF COMFORT IN MEETING IN PERSON. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR AT LEAST AWARE OF THE FACT THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS ARE ACTUALLY COMPLETING THE TRAINING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOU'VE BEEN WAITING. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T WANT TO EXTEND THIS CONVERSATION LONGER THAN NECESSARY THAN I'M ABOUT TO. LET ME SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM JOINING US TONIGHT. KUDOS TO BOTH OF YOU. WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON WHERE WE EXACTLY OUGHT TO GO. WHAT LITTLE BIT CITY COUNCIL'S GET PAID TO BE IN THESE MEETINGS, YOU GET PAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. A FEW OF YOUR OTHER MEMBERS CONSISTENTLY JOIN US TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES AND COMMITTEES AND CITY COUNCIL AND I APPRECIATE IT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I AGREE THAT WE OUGHT TO DO -- TO BE ON TOP OF THIS ISSUE. SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ARGUING FOR A WHILE THAT WE NEED A RESET ON ACCOUNTABILITY. LET ME PLANT THAT SEED AGAIN HERE TODAY. I'M NOT -- I DON'T DISAGREE THAT THE TRAINING STATUS FOR THE CPOA, I DON'T THINK THIS RESOLUTION IS THE WAY. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO CALL AND ASK AND GET THAT DATA. IF WE CAN'T WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT. I THINK IT FEELS CONFRONTATIONAL TO THE VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT JOB. I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT, I DON'T AGREE WITH THE PROCESS. MY BIGGER CONCERN IS THIS, SHE BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF RECORD-KEEPING IT REITERATED THE FEELING THAT I HAVEB ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, COUNCILOR WINTER BEFORE HE RETIRED WORKED WITH ME TO REFORM THE CPOA PROCESS TO DEAL WITH HOW WE INVESTIGATE INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO GIVE CPOA ACCESS TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS INFORMATION. WE WORKED OUT THAT PROCESS TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE THAT DOJ ADDRESSED. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN THIS PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE EVERYBODY, AND THAT INCLUDES CITY COUNCIL, CPOA, APD, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS POINTING FINGERS AT SOMEBODY ELSE. WE HAVE THESE REPORTS THAT SAY THESE POLICIES AND WE'RE NOT IMPLEMENTING THEM. WE HAVE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS. BUT RECORD-KEEPING IS THE PROBLEM. THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE WE NEED TO MEET STANDARDS. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE THE RECORD-KEEPING? IT'S NOT THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS OF CPOA. THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT IS KEEPING UP WITH TRAINING AND THE DATA BASE. THOSE QUESTIONS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PASS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO ASK AT THE CITY HOW WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THESE PIECES OF THE CPOA. I HAVE THAT ISSUE. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN POINTING FINGERS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE TRAINED OR THE UNION IS GIVING US MORE TIME FOR INVESTIGATIONS AND THEY'RE NEGOTIATING WITH THE POLICE UNION BEHIND OUR BACKS. I'M TIRED OF US DOING THAT. I WANT TO LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE AND ABLE TO CHANGE THE RULES ARE THE NINE PEOPLE THAT DO THE ZOOM MEETING. I THINK WE HAVE A -- I THINK WE OUGHT TO START IT AGAIN. I THINK WE SHOULD START THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND LETTING ME HAVE MY SOAPBOX. I'LL BE QUIET. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. I THINK WHAT I'M GOING TO DO -- CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER. I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE'S SAYING. I DON'T THINK WE'RE INTENDING TO BE HEAVY-HANDED. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET TO THE ROOT OF OUR STAFF DOES MONITOR AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION DEALING WITH THE CASA AND THE JUDGE. I THINK THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND DETERMINE HOW WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD. MAYBE MOVE IT FORWARD WITH MORE LANGUAGE ABOUT DIALOGUE AND I MEAN THAT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING. WE SHOULD CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE AND EXTEND THAT INVITATION. HOW DO WE DO THAT IN A WAY THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALSO MET ITS RESPONSIBILITY. AND THE CPOA UNDERSTANDS WE HAVE CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES WE DO HAVE TO MEET. I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THAT ALREADY. WE WANT TO WORK ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TRY TO MOVE IT FORWARD. COUNCILOR SENA, IS THAT A SECOND? THANK YOU. >> I'M SORRY TO INTERJECT. PERHAPS IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD, WHOEVER OF THAT MAY BE AT THE TIME JOINING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHEN HE'S PROVIDING HIS REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE A REPORT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE TRAINING. IT MAY BE AS SIMPLE AS THAT. IT JUST DOESN'T NEED TO BE HEAVILY LEDGESILATED, IF YOU TELL US WHAT YOU LIKE WE'RE HAPPY TO COMPLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AND ENSURE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO REACH THIS OBJECTIVE THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AS A CITY. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO DEFER FOR TWO WEEKS, IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD BY THE ATTORNEY. IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO WORK US THROUGH THIS? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'M GOING TO GO TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. AND THANK YOU TO THE CPC MEMBERS HERE WITH US. WE WILL REACH OUT TO EACH OTHER AND LET'S CONTINUE THIS DIALOGUE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE BACK, COUNCILORS, TO ITEM F, WHICH IS COUNCILOR BENTON. O-71. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. IT'S REPEALING THE RECOGNITION ORDINANCE. AND REPLACING IT WITH A REVISED, NARROW DESCRIBING RESPONSIBILITIES AND SERVICES OFFERED BY THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION. AND MAKING REVISIONS THE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION NOTICE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR DAVIS. I HEARD COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST HEARING OF THE FULL COUNCIL OF THIS BILL. I'D LIKE TO ASK MS. BACA AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORKED ON IT TO GIVE US AN INTRODUCTION AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ABOUT HOW THE PROCESS HAS GONE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU INTEREST FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THE CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCED INTENT TO ADDRESS THE SHORTCOMINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE OR NARO WHICH WAS PASSED IN 1987 AND MINIMALLY UPDATED. GUIDELINES RESTRICTED THE FORMATION OF NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO PROPOSE BOUNDARIES TO CONFLICT WITH EXISTING ASSOCIATIONS. BETWEEN EARLY SPRING 2018 AND FALL 2019, INDEPENDENT CONSULTANTS WERE CONTRACTED TO CONDUCT AN EXPENSIVE OUTREACH INITIATIVE WITH CITY COUNCIL, CITY DEPARTMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, COMMUNITY GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ARE DETERMINED TO WHICH CHANGES SHOULD BE INCORPORATED. THIS OUTREACH EFFORT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. THEY INVOLVED CONTACTING 222 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH 93 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DIALOGUES, 159 FLASH INTERVIEWS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AT FOUR COMMUNITY CENTERS AND A VARIETY OF SURVEYS, ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS AND GROUP DISCUSSIONS HOSTED BY THE CONSULTANTS. HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS, NEIGHBORHOOD COALITIONS, AND INDIVIDUALS NOT AFFILIATED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. THIS OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED OVER 22 MONTHS CULMINATING IN AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER 2019 WHICH ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS WERE INVITED. REGULAR UPDATES WERE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEWSLETTER AND WEEKLY NEWS AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA VENUSE AND THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE ONC WEBSITE AS WELL AS THE NARO WEBSITE ON THE CITY COUNCIL HOME PAGE. IN INITIAL DRAFTS IT WAS SENT TO THE ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION IN JANUARY 2021. FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS WAS RECEIVED AND THE LEGISLATION WAS REVISED TO INCORPORATE FEEDBACK. THIS WAS SENT TO ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS IN JULY 2021 AND INTRODUCED AUGUST 2, 2021 BEFORE BEING REFERRED TO THE LAND USE ZONING COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT NARO AND WORKED TO INCORPORATE AS MANY SUGGESTIONS AS POSSIBLE. THIS PROVIDES LEGISLATION UPDATED LANGUAGE THAT ASSIGNED THE ROLES AND RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS. ONE OF THE IDEAS BEHIND THE REVISED NARO IS IF THE CITY IS GOING TO RECOGNIZE AN OUTSIDE GROUP THAT GROUP SHOULD CONDUCT THIS ACTIVITY IN A FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC MANNER. IN THE CASE OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, FAIRNESS CAN BE PROMOTED BY OUTLINING MINIMUM DEMOCRAT PROCESSES THAT CAN BE FOLLOWED TO HELP INCLUSION AND RELIABILITY COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION. FOR THE UPDATED DRAFT, IT CLARIFIES THE STANDARD THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND COALITIONS WILL HAVE ELECTIONS AND VOTING. IN ADDITION, THE REVISED NARO ADDRESSES, TO BECOME RECOGNIZED A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION MUST ALLOW ANY RESIDENT OR BUSINESS TO BECOME A MEMBER, HAVE CLEARLY DEFINED BOUNDARIES THAT DON'T OVERLAP, HAVE BYLAWS THAT CAN DEFINE THE PROCESS BY WHICH BOARD MEMBERERIZE ELECTED OR REPLACED. AND HAVE TWO DESIGNATED POINTS OF CONTACT ON FILE WITH THE ONC. AND COMPLETE THE COMPLIANCE FORM AND MAKE SURE IT GETS SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE. AND TO STAY RECOGNIZED, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION MUST HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT AND SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT FROM QR OFFICE, MAINTAIN TWO DESIGNATED POINTS OF CONTACT WITH THE ONC INCLUDING NAMES ADDRESSES, AND TELEPHONE NUMBERS. HAVE A CLEARLY DEFINED PROCESS FOR HOLDING ELECTIONS SPELLED OUT IN BYLAWS AND CLARIFY TO MEMBERS THAT DUES ARE VOLUNTARY AND CAN BE CHARGED BUT CAN'T BE A PREREQUISITE FOR VOTING. RECOGNITION MEANS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF RECEIVING AND DISSEMINATING APPLICATION TO THE MEMBERS AS WELL AS OTHER INFORMATION OF INTEREST OR THAT MIGHT BENEFIT OR OTHERWISE AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. OTHER GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS WILL ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE ONC RESOURCES AND COMMUNICATIONS. THEY ARE NOT CONSIDERED RECOGNIZED AND WILL NOT RECEIVE DEVELOPER NOTICES AND PERMIT APPLICATION NOTIFICATION. CITY DEPARTMENTS OTHER THAN ONC HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF NOTIFYING RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND RECOGNIZED COALITIONS OF CHANGES IN CITY SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, CITY STREETS CLOSURE, FILMING ON CITY STREET AND MAJOR CITY DEVELOPMENT PER THE IDO REQUIREMENTS WITHIN A SPECIFIC RADIUS. THE OFFICE HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO RECOGNIZE COALITION CONTRACT INFORMATION. DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION TO APPLICANTS, DEVELOPERS, AND CITY DEPARTMENT FOR NOTIFICATION OF ABOUT PROJECTSES AND DEVELOPMENTS. OFFER INFORMATION AND CREATION MAINTENANCE RECOGNITION STATUS AND PROVIDE RESOURCES AND TRAINING TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COALITIONS INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESS GROUPS AND BUSINESSES. AND I WILL NOW STAND FOR QUESTIONS. SGLB. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF MS. BACA. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. THAT WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF INFORMATION. CONSIDERING IT'S MORE THAN TWO YEARS OF WORK ON THIS, I CAN UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS I THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT. WE'VE HEARD CRITICISM FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS AND FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH I'M IN SUPPORT OF EXTENDING THIS A LITTLE BIT TO GIVE FINAL INPUT. WE'VE HEARD INPUT THAT SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL IS REDOING THIS WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC INPUT AT ALL. JUST IN BULLET POINTS, HOW MANY PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS AND HOW MUCH PUBLIC COMMENT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. OVERALL, THE PROCESS STARTED IN 2017. TOTAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CONTACTED WERE 222. THAT INCLUDED HOAs AND COALITION. 93 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FACE-TO-FACE DIALOGUE WERE CONDUCTED. THERE WERE 159 INTERVIEWS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AT FOUR COMMUNITY CENTERS. AND THERE'S NUMEROUS SURVEYS, ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS AND GROUP DISCUSSIONS. OVERALL, THE PROCESS WAS BASICALLY TOOK A TOTAL OF 22 MONTHS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION OR NOT, BUT THE OVERALL OUTREACH TOOK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT IN REACHING AS MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, COALITIONS, HOA'S AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS UNTIL THE VERY END. THE CONTRACTORS MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD IN ALL OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. I KNOW THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK RECEIVED. THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO SEVERAL REPORTS. THE SUMMARY REPORT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE REFERRED TO IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE FROM THE NERO UPDATE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT. THE PROJECT UPDATE WEBSITE WHICH IS AVAILABLE OFF THE CITY COUNCIL HOME PAGE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THAT WAS PERFECT. THANK YOU. I DON'T MEAN TO BELITTLE ANYONE LATE TO THE GAME. I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A CONVERSATION FOR FOUR YEARS. MADAM PRESIDENT, MY POINT IS I'M NOT OPPOSED TO EXTENDING THIS OR DEFERRING THIS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THAT JUST TO TAKE LAST MINUTE COMMENTS. WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT WAS AN OVERWHELMING SHOW THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS. I HAVE YET TO SEE AS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY, AT NO OTHER TIME IN MY CAREER, HAS IT THE CITY COUNCIL GOTTEN THE CITY COUNCIL TO AGREE ON ONE THING. THEY'RE SCARED OF CHANGE. WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS BECAUSE OR WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT UP ISSUES THEY WANTED TO BE MORE INVOLVED AND HAVE OTHER PROCESSES. THIS PUTS EVERYBODY ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE MORE COMMENT. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THE OLD STRUCTURE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENTING ONE COMMUNITY REALLY WAS TWO VOTES FOR SOME PEOPLE AND NO VOTES FOR OTHERS. WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT THEY WANT PEOPLE TO PAY MEMBERSHIP DUES TO PARTICIPATE. LET ME JUST BE CLEAR, THE STANDING THAT THE IDO PROVIDES TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IS SPECIAL. IT MEANS THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS THE ONLY ASSOCIATION IN SOME CASES THAT CAN PROVIDE STANDING TO CHALLENGE A ZONING DECISION OR DEVELOPMENT DECISION. THAT SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO PAY TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. THIS NEW NARO ALLOWS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHO CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE AS A FORMAL MEMBER OF THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO DO SO AT A FORMAL WAY AND THEY MUST INCLUDE EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. NOT JUST EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO THE REGULAR MEETINGS BUT EVERYBODY THAT CARES ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT COMES IN FRONT OF THEM. IF YOU HAVE SIX OTHER THINGS TO DO, VERY RARELY IS THE MEETING THE TOP OF YOUR LIST. SOMETIMES IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS THE PROCESS TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE. I THINK WE'LL NEED TO HAVE MORE TIME. I WANT US TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT IS MAKING THE PROCESS MORE OPEN TO MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT LITERALLY ARE THREE OR FOUR OFFICERS WHO RARELY HAVE MEETINGS AND RARELY PARTICIPATE BUT WHO WILL ENORMOUSLY INFLUENCE AND LEGAL AUTHORITY IN THE CITY REGARDING HUGE DECISIONS. NOT THAT THEY SHOULDN'T, BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS AND WE SHOULD BREAK THOSE BARRIERS DOWN. I APPLAUD WHERE WE'RE GOING. I HOPE TO CONCLUDE THIS BY THE END OF THE YEAR SO WE CAN START WITH A NEW CLASS OF COUNCILORS AT THE GAINING OF THE YEAR WITH A NEW EXPECTATION. >>COUN. BENTON: I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. YEAH, WE HAVE NOT RUSHED THIS. WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS. AS WAS STATED WE INCORPORATED LOT OF THE COMMENTS. THIS WASN'T CONDUCTED TO THE DARK. TO THE CONTRARY, WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. NOW, SOME OF THEM FOR WHATEVER REASON DID NOT PARTICIPATE. WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE DIALOGUES WITH THEM. I'VE MET WITH THE COALITION PANEL ABOUT THIS. WE PROMISED WE SHARE THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE LEGISLATION WITH THEM. WE DID. WE MADE SOME DRASTIC AMENDMENTS AS A RESULT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE RELEASED IT IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. THE NEW VERSION OF IT. WE CONTINUED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS. WE MADE A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS IN COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF REALLY GOOD AMENDMENTS TONIGHT. I THINK I DO WANT TO HEAR THOSE AMENDMENTS AND HAVE US TAKE ACTION ON THOSE AMENDMENTS AND I AM WILLING TO, SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST FULL COUNCIL MEETING, TO PROPOSE A DEFERRAL. IN THE MEANTIME, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER COMMENTS, MADAM PRESIDENT, OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS, HAVING LOOKED OVER THE AMENDMENTS THEY'RE ALL RELEVANT AND COME IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED MOST RECENTLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILORS, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO MOVE THIS BILL. I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT A DEFERRAL. I WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY GO THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS ALTHOUGH I'M HESITANT BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE NOT SEEN THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE TONIGHT. I THINK THAT THEY ARE BEING DONE IN GOOD FAITH TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS THAT WE'VE ALL HEARD. I THINK WE HAVE A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE AT OUR NEXT MEETING. I THINK IT'S LIKELY THERE MAY BE MORE AMENDMENTS COMING FORWARD AT THAT POINT TO MAKE THIS A BETTER BILL. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING 0-71, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR AMENDMENTS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM. THERE'S 13 OR 14 IF I DECIDE TO TO MOVE THE ONE I HAVE. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE PACKET. IT'S IN YOUR iPAD. WE WILL JUST GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE. THERE'S 13 OF THEM. WE WILL START WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. HE HAS THE FIRST TWO AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS IT OUR INTENT TO MOVE TONIGHT OR DEFER? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE AMENDMENTS AND LOOK TO A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MY PREFERENCE ON MY AMENDMENTS, MADAM PRESIDENT, WOULD BE TO MOVE THEM FORWARD TO OUR NEXT MEETING, UNLESS THE PRESIDENT HAS A PREFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: MY PREFERENCE IS WE DEFER THIS ENTIRE BILL AND I CAN MAKE THAT MOTION NOW. IF I MAKE THAT MOTION, THEN WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HEARING OUR AMENDMENTS TONIGHT. WE'LL HEAR THEM AT THE NEXT MEETING. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ACT ON THAT DEFERRAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, MINE ARE TECHNICAL, IT'S FINE IT WE MOVE MINE. I CAN MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, AND MR. MOYA CAN RAISE ON THE SCREEN. IT'S A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. MOYA. >>COUN. DAVIS: I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS AMENDMENT ADDS THE WORD DIRECTORS TO THIS SECTION. IT ALLOWS FOR ASSOCIATIONS THAT CHOOSE TO HAVE DIRECTORS INSTEAD OF MEMBERS WHO MAKE THEIR DECISION. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS HAS MOVED FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AS A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT B IN YOUR PACKET, I'LL MOVE AS FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO. IT CLARIFIES VOTING MECHANISMS FOR MEMBERS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. FOR REGULAR ITEMS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CAN DO MAIL BALLOTS, ELECTRONIC BALLOTS OR IN-PERSON, AND INCLUDES IN-PERSON VOTING FOR OFFICER ELECTIONS. I MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR GIBSON. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR DAVIS, THE WAY I READ IT, AND I GET YOUR INTENTION AND I'M ALL FOR IT. THE WAY I READ THIS WHEN I READ IT, WHEN SAYS AT LEAST ONE OF THE WAYS, IT LED ME TO BELIEVE YOU COULD ALMOST HAVE MULTIPLE VOTE BECAUSE YOU COULD AT LEAST VOTE IN PAPER OR IN PERSON OR PAPER AND IN PERSON. I WAS CONCERNED -- >>COUN. DAVIS: NO, COUNCILOR. THANK YOU FOR CLAYIFYING IF I MISSPOKE. IT SAYS THESE ARE THE METHOD YOU CAN CHOOSE. JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HOW THOSE FORMAL VOTES ARE CAST. AS YOU KNOW, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS IN THE PAST OF WHETHER AN ASSOCIATION TOOK A POSITION OR NOT BASED ON HOW PEOPLE PARTICIPATED. THIS WOULD REQUIRE THOSE ASSOCIATIONS TO CHOOSE A METHOD OF VOTING AND STICK TO IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR, MAYBE COUNCILOR GIBSON HAS A BETTER. >>COUN. GIBSON: I GUESS I NEED A LITTLE HELP HERE. I READ THAT TO BE ELIMINATING A VOICE VOTE. IS THAT YOUR INTENT, COUNCILOR? >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, IT IS NOT. I'LL FREELY SAY IT MAY NEED TO SAY BY REQUEST OF STAFF. I BELIEVE ROUTINE MATTERS, LIKE APPROVING THE JOURNAL. THIS RET -- RELATES TO FORMAL ACTIONS SUCH AS ELECKING AN OFFICER OR TAKING A POSITION ON A FORMAL CITY ACTION. I THINK ROUTINE ACTIONS PER ROBERTS RULES OF ORDERS. >>COUN. GIBSON: AGAIN. YOU'RE NOT INTENDING TO ELIMINATE THE VOICE VOTE? >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. NO MA'AM. FOR FORMAL ACTIONS IT MIGHT INVOKE THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS FOR THE IDO, I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE A VOTE ON THE RECORD IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, I'LL TRY. THE DRAFT IN FRONT OF YOU SAYS THAT VOTES MAY BE CAST IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS, IN PERSON, MAIL PAPER BALLOTS, ELECTRONIC MEANS. THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS. THIS AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO OFFER ALL OF THESE FOR EVERY VOTE. AT LEAST THAT'S THE INTENT. BY SAYING AT LEAST ONE OF THESE, THAT GIVES AN ASSOCIATION DISCRETION TO SAY, YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE OR YOU CAN DO A PAPER VOTE, I THINK EITHER WORK FOR IN-PERSON. AND YOU CAN DO A MAILED PAPER BALLOT. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO BOTH. IT'S OPENING OPTIONS FOR FOLKS TO CHOOSE WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE ON ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: EXCUSE ME COUNCILOR GIBSON, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP? >>COUN. GIBSON: THAT WAS A THUMBS UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T FEEL LIKE MY QUESTION EVER GOT ANSWERED. I WAS SAYING, THE WAY I READ IT IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE AT LEAST A VOTE IN PERSON BY MAIL OR BY ELECTRONIC MEANS. YOU COULD, JUST SAYING MAYBE LEGAL CAN HELP US, THE WAY IF I'M CONSTRUING IT THIS WAY, PERHAPS OTHER PEOPLE CAN, TO READ EACH MEMBER SUFORDED THE ABILITY TO VOTE USING ONE OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS. YOU CAN VOTE AT LEAST, BUT CAN WE CLARIFY THAT IT'S ONE VOTE FOR ONE PERSON. TO ME, I READ THIS TO SAY YOU CAN VOTE IN PERSON AND MAIL SOMETHING AND HAVE POTENTIALLY TWO VOTES. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I DON'T READ IT THAT WAY. I READ IT THIS IS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN GOOD STANDING AND THEY SHOULD PASS THEIR OWN BYLAWS WHICH IS APPROPRIATE. MAYBE WE CAN GET IT CLARIFIED. I DON'T SEE VOTER FRAUD IN THIS. YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SHOULD CLARIFY IF THERE'S A QUESTION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I THINK THAT IF THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THAT IT WOULD BE EASY TO FIX. ON THE PARAGRAPH NUMBER ONE OF THE AMENDMENT IT SAYS EACH MEMBER IS AFFORDED THE ABILITY TO VOTE. I THINK THAT CAN BE EASILY CHANGED TO SAY EACH MEMBER SUFORDED THE ABILITY TO CAST NO MORE THAN ONE VOTE USING ONE OF THE FOLLOWING. IS -- IT SIGNIFIES THERE'S NO INTENT FOR PEOPLE TO CAST TWO VOTES. >>COUN. DAVIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN IF WE CALL THAT A TECHNICAL CLEAN UP, I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO DO THAT IN THE BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES, I APPRECIATE THAT AND AGREE WITH IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: GOOD POINT. THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAT CHANGE WAS MADE. FOR THE PUBLIC, CAN WE READ THAT BACK PLEASE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, ON PAGE FIVE, LINE 21, SUBSECTION 8B, IS BEING AMENDED AS FOLLOWS. EXISTING TEXT IS EACH MEMBER IS AFFORDED THE ABILITY TO, ADD CAST NO MORE THAN, GO BACK TO EXISTING TEXT, VOTE. USING, ADD AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING METHODS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT CHANGE, COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOUR ORIGINAL BILL HAS BEEN GIVE AN FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. DO YOU SUPPORT THAT? >>COUN. DAVIS: YES, MA'AM. IF THERE'S NOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR JONES, I COULD BARELY HEAR YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MY END OR YOUR END. IF YOU CAN CHECK YOUR AUDIO, PLEASE. OKAY. WE CONSIDERED THE FIRST TWO AS FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. AT THIS POINT I WOULD ASK THE COUNCIL TO GET A SENTIMENT OF WHETHER WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THESE AMENDMENTS OR DEFER AT THIS POINT AND TIME. COUNCILOR BENTON, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >>COUN. BENTON: IF I COULD, MADAM PRESIDENT, WHETHER THE SPONSORS OF THESE AMENDMENTS, IF THEY PREFER TO WAIT, I THINK IT WOULD BE INFORMATIVE TO THE PUBLIC IF WE DON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THEM AND WE DEFER TO BE INFORMATIVE FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT'S INTENDED AND IT WILL BE UP TO THE SPONSORS OF ANY AMENDMENT TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANTED VOTED OR LATER. AS I'M -Y I'M HAPPY TO DEFER THIS. COUNCILORS ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BRING FORTH AMENDMENTS. MAYBE THIS GOES ON TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW. AT LEAST FOR TONIGHT I THOUGHT THERE WERE GOOD AMENDMENTS IN RESPONSE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN WE AS COUNCILORS MAKE AMENDMENTS, WE'RE OFTEN CRITICIZED TO SAY WE HAVEN'T GIVEN ADVANCED NOTICE. THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM SOMETIMES. BECAUSE WE DO GET IN AN ENDLESS WHEEL. THESE ARE ALL VALID AMENDMENTS AND GOOD ONES. MAYBE AT LEAST THEY CAN EXPLAIN THEIR AMENDMENTS. AND THAT WILL BE AFTER. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR HARRIS ALSO HAS A COMMENT. COUNCILOR HARRIS. YOU HAD OUR HAND UP, COUNCILOR HARRIS? >>COUN. HARRIS: YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE SPEECH ABOUT THIS. I HAVE SOME UNIQUE EXPERIENCE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND I WAS ACTUALLY SPONSORING THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWED OVERLAPPING ASSOCIATIONS. THERE WAS AN ASSOCIATION IN FOUR HILLS, NOW THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. THERE WAS A POINT WHERE THEY DIDN'T. I WENT TO A RECALL ELECTION IN 2007. AND VIRTUALLY 100% OF THE BOARD WAS IN FIVE OF THE RECALL BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT. AFTER THE ELECTION THE PEOPLE IN THE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO SUPPORTED ME AND DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THE BOARD WAS DOING TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD, AND ONCE THE BOARD DID THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE -- WHAT WE DID WAS PASS LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWED OVERLAPPING ASSOCIATIONS SO DIFFERENT VOICES COULD BE HEARD. AND THAT WAS ALSO OTHER PROBLEMS WHICH COUNCILOR BENTON IS TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE. MORE RECENTLY, WE HAD A -- IN MY DISTRICT. THEY DIDN'T LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER SO THEY TOOK OVER THE BOARD AND THOUGHT THEY COULD KILL THE COMMUNITY CENTER. WHAT THEY DID IS THEY GOT PROXYS AND THEY RAN AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TELLING THEM THEY WERE GOING TO OPEN A HOMELESS SHELTER AND WENT A TO RETIREMENT SHELTER AND THEY VOTED IN THEIR BOARD AND THEY PASSED BILAWS TO NO LONGER HAVE PROXY. WE'VE HAD THE EAST GATEWAY CORALITION. IT'S A DISGRACE. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, THE EAST GATEWAY COALITION WROTE A LETTER TO THE EPC SAID THEY OPPOSE THE COMMUNITY CENTER. THEN WHAT I DID FOR THE EPC IS SEND SEVERAL LETTERS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SAYING THEY WERE NEVER CONTACTED ABOUT THEIR SUPPORT. WHAT THE COALITION DOES IS THEY HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, AND THIS CAN HAPPEN AT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH A CAUSE AND JANED AND THEY TAKE OVER. THIS CAN BE CORRUPTED. I DON'T CARE WHAT RULES YOU PUT IN (INAUDIBLE). SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN AGENDA WILL TAKE OVER AND PUSH THAT. I'VE BEEN CONVINCED THAT NO MATTER WHAT LEGISLATION WE'RE GOING TO PASS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT. I'VE DECIDED WE SHOULD LEAVE IT ALONE AND RECOGNIZE THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE SMALL MINORITIES WHO ARE NOT DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY'RE DOING WHAT THE EAST GATEWAY COALITION IS DOING. [ INAUDIBLE ]. THAT'S MY SPEECH. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WHAT I'LL DO, COUNCILORS, IF YOU AGREE TO THIS. I THINK THIS IS A FAIREST WAY TO DO IT. GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND HAVE AN EXPLANATION AND LET THE SPONSOR DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO MOVE IT FORWARD TONIGHT OR IF THEY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE THE NEXT MEETING. AND WE CAN PASS WHAT WE PASS TONIGHT AND IT WILL BE AMENDED AND WE CAN HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK AT THEM AND MAYBE RECOMMEND OTHER AMENDMENTS. I THINK THERE'S STILL A PROCESS HERE. IT'S FLUID. WITH THAT, I'LL GOING TO GO TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT THREE ON PAGE 12 AFTER LINE 3. I THINK I'LL LET YOU READ THE REST. ESSENTIALLY, IT WOULD -- THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ONC TO -- WITHIN SEVEN DAYS. THIS IS WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE ORIGINAL NARO. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REQUEST ANY ANSWERS, DEFINITION OR STATUS THAT WE ARE BEHOLDANT TO THEM AND REQUIRE A NUMBER OF DAYS. THIS IS WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAYS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. DO I HAVE QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. DAVIS: I ALWAYS BEAT COUNCILOR BENTON TO THE PUNCH. IT'S NOT ON PURPOSE. I SUSPECT WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTION. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING. WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING TOGETHER. HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS? WHAT HAPPENS IF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS A QUESTION AND WE DON'T GET A RESPONSE. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. MAYBE WE SHOULD STICK IT IN THERE. I HATE WRITING STUFF THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MECHANISM. IS THERE A CONVERSATION FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? THERE'S TIMELINES ON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO WEIGH IN ON DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE OFTEN SEEN THAT THEIR INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. THEY LOOK DIFFERENT, IT'S HARD TO DECIPHER WHAT SOMEONE INTENDS SOMETIMES. I DO THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE ENFORCE THIS. IS THERE AUTOMATICALLY AN EXTENSION? I'M CURIOUS HOW TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. IT IS RELATING BACK TO ONC. IT'S THE OFFICE THAT REPLIES TO THAT. JUST LIKE 311, FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THEY SUBMITS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS TO REPLY. WE ALSO HAVE TIMELINES ON THAT AS WELL. SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REASONS YOU STATED, WHETHER IT'S DEVELOPMENT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE NOTICE BACK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT MAKE THAT REQUEST. BY THE MECHANISM IT WOULD BE THROUGH ONC THAT RECEIVED THAT AND RELAYED TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENT. ANY QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO 311 RELAYING BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT THIS WOULD BE ADDRESSED WOULD BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT I THINK THIS IS GREAT. BUT I HOPE WE ADD A PROVISION THAT SAYS COUNCILORS CAN SEE AND GET ANSWERS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I CAN OFFER SOME CONTEXT. THE CURRENT NARO REALLY HAS THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS IS POINTING OUT. IT SAYS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THE CITY SHALL RESPOND WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OR THE ONC MAKES SURE THE CITY RESPONDS IN SEVEN DAYS. THAT PUTS THE ONC IN A TOUGH POSITION. RECOGNIZING THAT WAS DISINGENUOUS TO THE PUBLIC. THIS LANGUAGE ESSENTIALLY PUTS THE STANDARD OF BEING A SEVEN-DAY RESPONSE AND IT PUTS THEM IN THE POSITION TO BUG PEOPLE. IT PUTS ONC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CORNER TO BE HELPING BUG WHICHEVER DEPARTMENT IT IS. ATTEMPT TO STRIKE THE BALANCE AND RECOGNIZE THE SUGGESTION. NO ONE SHOULD BE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S PUNISHABLE BY LAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: SORRY, I THOUGHT I TOOK MYSELF OFF MUTE. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: SO, I THINK HELPING ENSURE -- I'M A LITTLE WORRY ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE. WE'RE OFTEN TRYING WITHIN SEVEN DAYS I WISH I COULD GET AN ANSWER FROM SOME DEPARTMENTS ABILITY SOME THINGS. THAT'S WITH A CITY COUNCILLOR BUGGING THEM. I DO WORRY -- I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INTENT. AND I THINK I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE HELPING ENSURE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, WOULD THAT BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO SAY ENSURE? >>COUN. BENTON: HELPING, I'M NOT SURE WHICH OF THE WORDS NEEDS TO BE MASSAGED. MAYBE IT'S OKAY. I DO WORRY ABOUT SAYING ONC IS SUPPOSED TO DO THIS AND IF THEY DON'T GET AN ANSWER, THEN THEY HAVEN'T DONE THEIR JOB IF THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER FROM SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT. THAT'S ALL I WORRY ABOUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, FOR THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, GO AHEAD TO CLOSE. >>COUN. SENA: I THINK WE KNOW THE INTENT OF THIS AMENDMENT. IF WE HAVE TO MASSAGE IT A LITTLE BIT TO PUT MORE CLARITY I'M OPEN TO THAT. THIS IS SIMILAR TO 311 WHERE WE RECEIVE THE NOTICE AND WE CONVEY IT TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENT. SO THEY KNOW THEIR INITIAL QUESTION WOULD GO TO -- NOT NECESSARILY ON ONC TO PROVIDE THE ANSWER. ONLY THAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE GIVEN TO THE PROPER DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT'S EFFICIENT ENOUGH NOTICE WHETHER IT'S EMAIL OR BY MAIL IF WE RECEIVE THAT BY MAIL OR EMAIL, THAT AT LEAST WE GAVE AND DID WHATEVER WE COULD TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ANSWERS WERE GIVEN TO THOSE THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE THOSE ANSWERS. IF IT'S WORTH IT TO SAY ASSISTING INQUIRIES GET INITIAL RESPONSE, I'M OKAY TO THAT. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. HELP ASSIST. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME, COUNCILOR SENA, YOU'RE THE CO-SPONSOR. >>COUN. SENA: I'M GOOD WITH THAT, IF THAT'S A TECHNICAL OR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: DID STAFF GET THAT? OKAY, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, MS. ORTEGA. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO WHAT WE CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN SHORTLY. THIS WOULD REQUIRE COALITIONS TO AMEND OUR BYLAWS TO HAVE SPECIFIC WORDING EVEN IF THE CURRENT PRACTICES FOR UNDERLYING PROCESSES TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY SO THAT ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS WHO ARE OPERATING CONSISTENTLY WITH THOSE PRACTICES CAN OPERATE UNDER THE EXISTING BYLAWS WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MELENDREZ. I THINK THIS IS WELL-WORDED. I THINK IT'S PROBABLY OKAY. WE WERE ESSENTIALLY, THE WAY THE CURRENT DRAFTS IS WRITTEN YOURSELF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, THE WAY THAT WOULD COME ABOUT IS PROBABLY SIMILAR TO WAY THE COMPLAINTS COME ABOUT NOW. WHICH THE ONC REGULARLY ENTERTAINS CALLS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THERE'S LOT OF GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OUT THERE, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE'S CONCERNS. PEOPLE GET THOSE CALLS AND THINGS HAPPENED THAT ARE NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AT LEAST THE ONC WILL HAVE THE BYLAWS TO LOOK AT THE CONDUCT. I DO AGREE THAT IT WOULD LIKELY BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN AS FAR AS OPERATIONS AS OPPOSED TO PROACTIVE INSURANCE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE BYLAWS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MY POINT BEING THERE'S A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE IN THIS REVISION OF THE NARO THAT IS MORE SPECIFIC THAN WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST. BY NO MEANS IMPLYING THAT MOST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE DOING ANYTHING WRONG, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN. WE FAIRLY REGULARLY GET COMPLAINTS THAT THOROUGH PRACTICES HAVE NOT OCCURRED. HOW DO YOU PROVE THAT AND -- I SUPPOSE THE ONC, WHAT CAN THEY HANG THEIR HAT ON? ONE PERSON SAYS WE HAVE A GOOD DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND SOMEONE ELSE DISAGREES. WITH REGARD TO AMENDING BYLAW, I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT THEY WE DO GIVE, UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR, SOMETIMES BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT ANNUAL MEETING, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NEED TO MAKE A BYLAW AMENDMENT? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. I'LL INVITE MS. BACA TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SHE KNOWS THAT MORE CLEARLY THAN I DO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET ME SAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THERE'S TECHNICAL PIECES IMPORTANT. I THINK IT GETS TO A BIGGER PIECE OF A BIGGER CONVERSATION. I'M INCLINED TO ASK THE SPONSORS IF THEY WOULD DEFER THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL THE BIGGER CONVERSATION OR NEXT CONVERSATION WHERE WE GET INPUT. HERE'S MY THOUGHT, AND I'LL LOSE THIS VOTE. I THINK THIS TECHNICAL PIECE IS IMPORTANT, I THINK THE BIGGER PIECE IS HOW WE EVALUATE THE ROLE OF COALITIONS, FOR EXAMPLE. THERE'S PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE VERY STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CONTROL THE SEATS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION. YOU ESSENTIALLY HAVE TWO VOTES. THOSE DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES ALLOW FOR, IN SOME NEIGHBORHOOD COALITIONS, ALLOW FOR INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS. I'M GOING TO PICK ON A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S NOT MINE. COUNCILOR HARRIS MENTIONED, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW HIS EAST GATEWAY COALITION WORKS BECAUSE I DON'T DEAL WITH THEM VERY OFTEN. THAT COALITION WOULD INVOLVE 20 NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IF IT WAS TAKEN OVER BY THE MAJORITY OF OFFICERS FROM FOUR HILLS THEY CAN HAVE TWO VOTES IN TWO PLACES. MY CONCERN WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS HOW WE DETERMINE WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND FAIR SO THAT A LIMITED NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS DON'T MONOPOLIZE THE PROCESS AND CLAIM MORE AUTHORITY AND LOCK PEOPLE OUT. I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH THE UNDERLYING -- IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH THIS AMENDMENT. I VOTE FOR IT TECHNICALLY FOR THE TECHNICAL REASON. THE UNDERLYING ISSUE OF WHO GETS TO BE A MEMBER OF THE COALITION AND HOW THOSE ARE GOVERNED AND HOW THEY'RE DIFFERENT AND HOW THEY REPRESENT ALL DISTRIBUTES I DON'T THINK IS ADDRESSED APPROPRIATELY IN THIS BILL. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT REQUIRES A DEFERRAL OF THIS OR WHETHER THAT'S A REVISIT OR A LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT COALITIONS. THAT'S MY ONGOING CONCERN. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, WE CANNOT DEFER AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR SENA, I GUESS, YOU DETERMINE IF YOU WANT TO DEFER THIS. MY NEXT AMENDMENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, DEALS WITH COALITIONS. I'M PLANNING TO DEFER IT. I'M PLANNING NOT TO HEAR IT TONIGHT. LET'S GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT. >>COUN. DAVIS: IN THAT CASE, THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. I SUPPORT THIS TECHNICAL PIECE. I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THE BIGGER COALITIONS ISSUES IN A LARGER CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST VOTE UP OR DOWN ON THIS AMENDMENT AND WE'LL PROCEED FORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: LET'S GO TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I AM GOING TO DELAY THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING. BECAUSE THIS DOES HAVE A BROADER ISSUE REGARDING COALITION. I THINK IT WOULD GIVE NOT ONLY OURSELVES, BUT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COALITIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND OFFER ANY INPUT OR SUGGESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS. WHAT WE CONSIDER IS AMENDMENT E AND IS IN YOUR PACKET. I WILL NOT MOVE THIS TONIGHT. BUT I WILL CONSIDER MOVING THIS AT OUR NEXT, OR SOME VERSION, AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM F. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? THE STAFF WRITE-UP OR EXPLANATION IMPLIES THAT THIS DEALS WITH THE ISSUE OF OVERLAPPING BOUNDARIES BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT COALITIONS CANNOT HAVE MEMBERSHIPS IN COMMON. IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF ONE COALITION YOU CANNOT BE A MEMBER OF TWO OTHER ONES, I SUPPOSE, IF YOU'RE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. THERE'S LOT OF STRUCK THROUGH LANGUAGE, BUT IN A WAY IT MAY STILL SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. I KNOW IN THE PAST THAT THERE WERE CONFLICTS BETWEEN SOUTHWEST -- WE'RE BOTH SET -- WEST SIDE COALITIONS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IN FRONT OF MINE WHEN SOME OF THIS LANGUAGE -- WHEN WE BROUGHT IN COALITIONS WHICH WERE NEVER RECOGNIZED GROUPS. AND THAT WAS ONE IMPORTANT CHANGE IN RESPONSE TO THE OUTCRY FROM COALITION SAYING WE WANT STANDING TOO. ALONG WITH THAT AS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS COMES MORE RULES. ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT AND THE EXPLANATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS -- THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL MOVE TO AMENDMENT F, WHICH IS NOW GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AS AMENDMENT FIVE. THIS IS COUNCILOR PEÑA. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, THE ONE I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS WITHOUT READING ALL THE LANGUAGE, I'LL READ THE EXPLANATION. THIS IS ADDRESSING DEVELOPER CONCERNS WAS ELIMINATED BECAUSE EXISTING SECTIONS ARE BETTER ADDRESSED WITHIN THE IDO. THIS SHORT STATEMENT OF WHAT DEVELOPERS OBLIGATIONS IS INTENDED TO HELP THOSE WHO HELP COALITIONS. I MOVE A DUE PASS ON THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR BASSAN, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND OR WAS THAT A QUESTION? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? I DO NOT SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE'LL MOVE TO FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX, THERE'S LOT OF LANGUAGE IN THERE. THE EXPLANATION FOR THIS IS THESE CHANGES CLARIFY THAT THE ONC HAS DUTIES IT SHOULD CARRY OUT WITHOUT WAITING FOR THE REQUEST TO COME IN. SOME OBLIGATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE AS REQUESTS BUT THE ORDINANCE SHOULD DIRECT THE ONC TO BE DIRECTED. THIS PLACES TIMEFRAME FOR THE ONC SERVICES SUCH AS NEWSLETTER AND DIRECTLY THAT NEWS LETTERS SHOULD HAPPEN QUARTERTLY AND HOLD TRAINING AT LEAST ONCE PER YEAR. THIS AMENDMENTS DIRECTS THE ONC GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE TO ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS IN MEETINGS NOTICES FOR CERTAIN MEETINGS AND VOTES. THIS IS JUST A WAY OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FORMED SO IT'S A WAY HOW GOVERNMENT ENGAGES COMMUNITY. I JUST THOUGHT ONC DOES GREAT JOB, BUT JUST SO WE HAVE IT IN THE LEGISLATION IT REALLY COULD BE EMPHASIS ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR THE EXPLANATION. IT APPEARS COUNCILOR GIBSON IS OFFERING A SECOND? >>COUN. GIBSON: ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: HANG ON, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR SENA, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND? COUNCILOR GIBSON, BACK TO YOU. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. I'LL BET YOU CAN STRAIGHTEN ME OUT. THE ONE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS THE ONC RESPONSIBILITIES, IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES THAT'S CORRECT. I DID RECEIVE YOUR SUGGESTIONS EARLIER AND MAYBE HE CAN HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, LET ME JUMP IN REALLY QUICK. I APOLOGIZE THAT I LOOK LIKE A BLACK BOX. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU MOVED AMENDMENT G, WHICH IS ADDING RECITALS TO THE BEGINNING OF THE BILL FOR CONTEXT. I BELIEVE YOU READ THE EXPLANATION FOR AMENDMENT H. I THINK THE EXPLANATION YOU GAVE DOESN'T CORRELATE TO THE AMENDMENT YOU MOVED. UNDERSTANDABLE WITH ALL THESE AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING. >>COUN. PEÑA: I APOLOGIZE, I HAD THE AMENDMENT IN MY PACKET IN THE ORDER THEY WERE GIVEN TO ME. I JUST NOTICED THAT WAS THE CASE. I WILL PULL WHAT I JUST SAID BACK AND JUST READ THE RECITALS. AND THAT WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. IS THAT CORRECT? YES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. SO THESE RECITALS ARE INTEN TENDED TO PROVIDE GREATER COMMUNITY-BASED OF THE NARO. IT OFFERS A BASIS FOR RECOGNIZING COALITIONS AS BEING PROPOSED. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS I WAS REALLY READING AS TO WHY GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND I STUMBLED UPON DOING SOME OF MY RESEARCH A LITTLE DOCUMENT CALLED THE ROLL OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND URBAN PLANNING PROCESSES. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION IN OUR NARO. IT TALKS ABOUT IN THE 1950s CIVIC PARTICIPATION UNDERWENT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. IN THE TRANSITION FROM VOLUNTARY MEMBERSHIP TO PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIP. RESULTS IN A DIMINISHED GRASSROOTS. UNDER THIS, UNDER PRESIDENT JOHNSON, THEY DEVISED A MANDATE THAT REQUIRES GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THIS UNDERTAKING IS AIMED TO INCREASE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND LOCAL POLITICS AND LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND TO ATTEMPT FIGHT THE WAR ON POVERTY. AS A RESULT THE COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. WHAT IT DOES IS LEGITIMIZES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, GIVES THEM A PLACE AT THE TABLE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING THE URBAN PLANNING PROCESS. I THOUGHT THESE RECITALS WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS PART OF THE NARO. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST OFFERING A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. SENA: I WAS OFFERING A SECOND. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'M GOOD. NO QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO -- ON YOUR iPAD IT'S AMENDMENT H. THIS IS NOW NUMBER SEVEN. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, WITHOUT REHASHING WHAT I JUST SAID, IT WAS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE ONC AND JUST REALLY CLARIFYING SOME OF THE ROLE OF ONC AND WHAT'S WE'RE GOING TO DO TO ENGAGE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT I JUST READ. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. YOU HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. COUNCILOR GIBSON, COUNCILOR SENA. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE SECONDS. >>COUN. GIBSON: I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW I SENT YOU STUFF WITH ALL KINDS OF WRITING ON IT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION ON IS THE REMOVAL OF THE LANGUAGE FOR PARAGRAPH A9 AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TEN. REMOVING THE UPON REQUEST. THAT JUST SEEMED CURIOUS TO ME. THAT SEEMS TO BE A NATURAL PROMPT FOR SPECIFIC INFORMATION TO GO OUT. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE REASONING WAS BEHIND REMOVING THE BY REQUEST. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, I THINK WORDSMITHING. IT CAN BE UPON REQUEST AS WELL. I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A CITY GOVERNMENT HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENGAGE A COMMUNITY TOO. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO READ THAT UPON REQUEST. I THINK THE AMENDMENTS WERE INTENDED TO ADDRESS THE IDEA THAT IF ONC IS GETTING AN INQUIRY FROM SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A DUTY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY UNLESS THAT PERSON SPECIFICALLY ASKED THEM FOR HELP. OR AS ONC MAYVY WELL ANY THAT THE RESOURCES EXIST AND THEY CAN CONNECT. WE HAVE A GREAT ONC STAFF. I'M CONFIDENT THAT NO ONE WOULD EVERY ADMINISTER THIS ORDINANCE THAT NARROWLY. MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHANGES WAS TO MAKE SURE ONC DID NOT FEEL LIMITED TO BE ABLE TO HELP ONLY WHEN SPECIFICALLY ASKED BUT TO EXTEND RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE RERESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND HELPFUL. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, IT'S NOT TO THE SPECIFICS OF THIS. THE MAJOR QUESTION I ASK IS HOW MUCH STAFF DOES ONC HAVE. IT SEEMS WE'RE PUTTING MORE AND MORE ON THEM. IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE STAFF, HAVE WE FACTORED IN A BUDGET TO COVER THAT? I'M LISTENING TO ALL THESE AMENDMENTS THEY ARE ASKING FOR MORE AND MORE TO COME OUT OF ONC. I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A VERY SMALL DEPARTMENT. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WHEN ONC, AND FOLKS KNOW THE HISTORY OF ONC, IT'S BEEN IN COUNCIL. IT HAD FOUR FULL-TIME POSITIONS. PRESENTLY THERE ARE THREEEME WORKING FOR ONC. I HAVE TO QUALIFY THAT ONE OF THE FOLKS DOES GENERAL COUNSEL SERVICES WORK AS WELL. WE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT RESOURCES WE NEED TO GIVE TO GIVE ONC. I THINK IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE IDEA THAT ONC WOULD BE FULLY STAFFED UP TO WHAT IS NEEDED. WE HAVE HAD THE BENEFIT OF HAVING ONE OF THEIR STAFF DO GENERAL COUNSEL SERVICES AS WELL. IN THE FUTURE, DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ORDINANCE MAKE SURE THE PERSON IS FULLY DEDICATED TO ONC IN THE FUTURE. >>COUN. JONES: IF WHERE MAY, MADAM PRESIDENT? DOES THAT MEAN YOU THINK WE ARE ADEQUATELY STAFFED NOW AND THIS SHOULD NOT AFFECT IN THE NEAR FUTURE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS HOLDING PROCESS WITH RESPECT TO THE INTERIM RESOLUTION AND GETTING THIS ORDINANCE UP TO SPEED. I THINK THE IDEA HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY THAT WE WOULD MONITOR WHAT RESOURCE DEMAND THIS ORDINANCE CREATED. AT PRESENT, THE REPORTING TO ME IS ONC HAS THE RESOURCES CURRENTLY TO MEET THE CURRENT OBLIGATIONS. WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL STAFF PERSON AT ONC THAT DOES CITY COUNCIL WORK. I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO DEDICATE THAT PERSON FULLY TO ONC. I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE CAN LIKELY COVER THE OBLIGATION WITH THAT SHIFT. IF WE CAN'T, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT. I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT AS WAS STATED, AND OTHERS STATED, ONC IS DOING A GREAT JOB RIGHT THOU. THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING MORE THAN WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING WHEN STAFF MOVES ON THAT WE HAVE OUR ORDINANCE SOLID AND IT HAS PUT THE EXPECTATIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. IS THAT YOUR CLOSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE'LL MOVE TO AMENDMENT I. I THINK THIS IS I. OR THIS IS L? I. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT 8. ON PAGE THREE LINE NINE STRIKE THE WORD PERSON AND INSERT PROPERTY OWNERS AND/OR RESIDENTS. THERE'S CONCERN BEING EXPRESSED THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST POP INTO A HOUSE AND SAY THEY'RE THERE. THIS WAS A TECHNICAL CLEAN UP WITH WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE INTENTION WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE VOTING. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO LETTER 9, WHICH IS AMENDMENT J. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NINE. THIS WOULD BE ON PAGE THREE, LINE 12, STRIKE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND INSERT SPECIFIED BOUNDARIES WITHIN THE CITY. THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE STARTING TO ALLUDE AT AND WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE CURRENT VERSION AND THIS ONE THAT COALITIONS HAVE A BOUNDARY. WE DON'T HAVE OVERLAPPING RESIDENTS THAT SAY THEY'RE PART OF MORE THAN ONE COALITION. . >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SEGGED SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR SENA, SECK ALSO. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE WILL MOVE TO AMENDMENT TEN. WHICH IS AMENDMENT K. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT TEN ON PAGE FOUR LINE EIGHT, ADD THE WORD ADULT BETWEEN THE WORDS ALL AND PERSON. AND ON PAGE SEVEN, ADD THE WORD ADULT BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL AND RESIDENTS. THERE'S CONCERN IF WE'RE MAKING SURE THERE'S NO DISCRIMINATION ON AGE IT COULD BE CONSTRUED THAT MINORS CAN VOTE. THAT SHOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IF THEY WANT THEM TO VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, JUST QUICK -- THERE IS A SECOND. COUNCILOR BENTON, I BELIEVE THAT'S A SECOND. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WHAT DO WE CONSIDER A MINOR? >>COUN. BASSAN: I IMAGINE ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 THAT'S NOT AN ADULT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THEY'RE NOT DEFINED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. WE USE THE COMMON DEFINITION. AND COMMONLY IN OUR SOCIETY ADULTHOOD IS THE AGE OF 18. I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON AN 9-0. WE'LL MOVE TO FLOOR AMENDMENT 11, WHICH IS AMENDMENT L. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ON PAGE FIVE LINE 16 AND ON PAGE 8 LINE 19 THROUGH 20, AMEND AS FOLLOWS. IF DECISIONS ARE MADE VIA A MAJORITY OF THE TOTAL VOTE CAST BY THE ASSOCIATION OFFICERS OR MEMBERS. THE REASON FOR THIS WAS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND IT TO BE WHERE IT CAN BE WHETHER IT'S THE MAJORITY VOTE OF ALL OF THE MEMBERSHIP OR WHETHER IT'S THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO ARE CASTING VOTES. IT WAS TO CLARIFY THAT TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE DOUBT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. DO AND -- DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR GIBSON, COUNCILOR DAVIS. QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MEANT MINE AS A QUESTION. MY APOLOGIES. THIS IS ONE OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE WELL VERSED IN THIS, I WANTED TO ASK, IN THE PAST WE MADE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN COALITIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS TAKING A VOTE ON THESE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS BASED ON THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP OR REQUIRING THAT A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS WEIGH IN BY ONE OF THOSE MEANS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. MY CONCERN IS THAT CLARIFYING IT BY THE NUMBER OF VOTES CAST MIGHT MEAN THAT A MINORITY OF MEMBERS THAT CARE ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE WOULD REQUIRE THE ENTIRE WEST SIDE COALITION TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THAT ONLY AFFECTED CENTRAL AND COORS. I WONDER HOW THIS WILL FIT THAT CONCERN AND WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE. I'M CERTAIN YOU MAY HAVE A BETTER ANSWER THAN I DO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, I THINK THAT YOU MAKE A VALID POINT. IT WAS MORE THE INTENTION OF IF YOU HAVE 100 MEMBERS AND ONLY 16 SHOW UP TO THE MEETING AND IT SAYS MAJORITY VOTE BY THE MEMBERSHIP OR THE MAJORITY VOTE WITHOUT CLARIFYING, SOME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT TO MEAN THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO 100 PEOPLE TO GET A VOTE BEFORE THEY CAN DECIDE THAT'S A MAJORITY. IF THERE'S A SUGGESTION YOU HAVE TO REMEDY THAT, WHILE STILL ACHIEVINGING THIS, THAT'S THE INTENTION. IT'S TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR COALITIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO EVERY MEMBER. AND ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THERE SHOULD BE QUORUM GUIDELINES. FOR THE MINIMUM WE SHOULD BE COVERED. THIS IS TO NOT PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN TO MAKE SURE THEY REACH OUT AND ALL THESE OTHER WAYS IN CASE EVERYONE DOESN'T SHOW UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. YOU HIT ON THE WORD I WAS TRYING TO FIND A WORD FOR. I THINK IT'S THE QUORUM QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IT'S ADDRESSED OTHERWISE. SO, AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS NOT THIS IS BAD. I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER FOR THE QUESTION IN ADDRESSING IT. MAYBE SOMEONE CAN TELL ME QUICKLY ON THE SIDE DO THE SEARCH FOR THE WORD QUORUM IN THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION. YOU CONCERN IS SIMPLY NOT THAT SHE WOULD HAVE A MAJORITY OF VOTES CAST, THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT THERE ARE MINUTE ISSUES THAT GET FOLKS RILED UP FOR GOOD REASON. IF NOBODY ELSE CARES AND ONLY THREE PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE MEETING, OR ONLY THREE PEOPLE CAST THEIR VOTE BECAUSE THEY CARE IT COULD UNNECESSARILY IMPLY THAT A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION CARES ABOUT AN ISSUE IN A SMALL WAY. MR. MELENDREZ, ARE YOU AWARE OF MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR QUORUMS IN THE DEMOCRACY LANGUAGE WE'RE PROPOSING FOR COALITIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, A QUORUM IS GENERALLY A MAJORITY. IF YOU HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT IS 20 STRONG OR 19 STRONG THEN 10 QUARTERBACK QUORUM OF THAT BODY. WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A QUORUM. A PRIVATE ASSOCIATION OR ANY ASSOCIATION CAN DEFINE A QUORUM DIFFERENTLY. AND DEFINE A QUORUM AT ANY NUMBER IT WANTS AND ITS MEMBERS APPROVE AS BYLAWS. THAT CAN BE REMEDIED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. AND THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T PRESCRIBE ANYTHING THERE. WITH RESPECT TO THE MROINT -- POINT ABOUT HOW IT'S REPRESENTATIVE, THERE'S A BALANCE BUILT INTO THE ORDINANCE. FOLKS WILL RECOGNIZE EVEN THOSE THAT THINK THE ORDINANCE OVERREACHES WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE DOWN TO THE MINUTE, BUT WHAT THE ORDINANCE DOES SAY IS THAT THESE GROUPS HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN HOW THEIR DECISION WAS ARRIVED AT. THAT'S THE COMPONENT OF THE ORDINANCE INTENDED TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE. BECAUSE THE DECISION MAKER YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE GROUP HAS THE OBLIGATION TO TELL YOU YES IT WAS A VOTE OF THE MEMBERSHIP AND IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHO SHOWED UP FOR THE VOTE THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S THE STRIKE THE BALANCE. WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE, THAT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I WONDER IF THE SPONSOR, I DEFER TO THE SPONSOR, I WONDER IF THE SPONSOR WOULD BE WILLING TO WITHDRAWAL THIS FOR THE NIGHT OR NOT TAKE ACTION AND TO LOOK AT THAT QUORUM QUESTION IN CONTEXT WITH THIS WITH ME IN THE FUTURE AND IF SHE WANTS TO DO A VOTE TONIGHT THAT'S FINE. I WOULD BE TOTALLY IN SUPPORT AS LONG AS THOSE MEETING MET A QUORUM STANDARD REPRESENTED ALL THE MEMBERS. BUT DIDN'T ALLOW HIJACKING FOR A MEETING FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. WHICH WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME PONDER. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT COUNCILOR BENTON HAS TO SAY AS WELL. AND IF I MAY RESERVE MY RESPONSE FOR AFTER THAT, JUST IN CASE. AND IF YOU THINK CRASS IS HIGH JACKING WHEREBY -- I'M IN TROUBLE. I DON'T THINK I WOULD SAY THE OTHER WORD ON TV. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK IN DRAFTING THIS WE RECEIVED CRITICISM FROM SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAD ABOUT NOTIFICATION AND SOME OF THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE STILL IN THERE ABOUT HOW YOU -- MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR ADEQUATE NOTIFICATIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU DID A SIGN OR LEAFLET OR WHATEVER. WE RELIED ON THAT IN A WAY IN LIEU -- WE NEVER HAD A DISCUSSION, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, ABOUT ANY QUORUMS. THAT WAS WITHOUT INTENTION. GIVE ADEQUATE NOTICE, GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE IF IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, GET THE WORD OUT THERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING FORWARD. AND AS WAS STATED, WE ALSO RECEIVED COMPLAINTS THAT SAID YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REPRESENT HOW YOUR DECISION WAS MADE. THAT'S LANGUAGE ALREADY IN THE IDO WHERE THERE'S LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO SAY HOW IS THIS DECISION MADE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED SKWUP UP AS WITH MUCH OF THIS ORDINANCE WE'RE TRYING TO WALK THE FINE LINE BETWEEN OVERLY MANAGING PEOPLE AND ASSOCIATIONS AND COALITIONS, AND STILL TRYING TO ENSURE A MONCOME OF AN ATTEMPT TO GET PEOPLE OUT AND MAXIMIZE PARTICIPATION. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT DEBATE. I GUESS I ALSO WOULD ALSO THINK THIS MIGHT BE ONE WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE IT. IT'S UP TO THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >>COUN. BASSAN: I KNOW INSIDE MY HEAD WHAT MY PLEASURE IS, AT THE SAME TIME I'LL WITHDRAW IT FOR NOW. >>COUN. BORREGO: SO YOU'RE WITHDRAWING THIS AMENDMENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: FOR NOW, YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. WE NEED A SECOND. I'LL OFFER A SECOND. >>COUN. DAVIS: YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WHO WAS THE SECOND HERE? COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU AGREE TO THAT? COUNCILOR SENA, OKAY. WE'LL WITHDRAW THOSE. OUR NEXT AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT M. AND WE WILL CONSIDER THIS 11 SINCE WE WITHDRAW 11. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES THIS WOULD BE NUMBER 12. GIVEN THE PRIOR ONE DID HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT 12. IT WOULD BE TO STRIKE MEMBER ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUP TO INDIVIDUAL AND ON PAGE LINE 31, ON PAGE 8 LINE ONE STRIKE BUSINESS MEMBERS RESIDING IN BOUNDARIES. AND ON PAGE 7 LINE 31 INSERT MEMBERS. THIS MAKES CHANGES TO THE SECTION OF NOTICE OF COALITION MEETINGS. THE RESIDENCE OF THE BOUNDARIES, WITHOUT THIS AMENDMENT IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT AND SERVE TO CAUSE CONFUSION. THE COALITION SHALL HOLD AN ANNUAL MEETING AND NOTIFY AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND MAKE A REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO MAKE NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE. NOW IT'S -- THROUGH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. MAKE A REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO GIVE NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS THROUGH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. STAFF, MAY WE PLEASE DO THAT? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'RE WORKING ON THAT COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY, THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT BACK? >> IN THE READING OF THE EXPLANATION, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE IT READING THE COALITION SHALL HOLD AN ANNUAL MEETING, IT SHALL NOTIFY AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND MAKE A REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO GIVE NOTICE TO ALL THROUGH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. >>COUN. BASSAN: TO ALL MEMBERS, THROUGH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. >> CORRECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. PLEASE LEAVE THE WORD MEMBERS IN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTENT IS CLEAR. AS THAT DESCRIPTION WAS REREAD, IT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE TWO-WEEK NOTIFICATION WOULD BE GIVE TOON THE ONC AND NOT THE MEMBERS. WAS THAT YOUR INTENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MY INTENT, THANK YOU. MY INTENT IS THAT IT SHALL NOTIFY THE ONC OF THE MEETING AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AND MAKE A REASONABLE ATTEMPT TO GIVE NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS AT LEAST TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE THROUGH TWO OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING. >> ADD AN IN BEFORE ADVANCE AND DELETE THE WORD NOTICE? >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT SOUNDS GREAT. MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT READING IT OUT LOUD TO MYSELF. IT SOUNDS SO MUCH DIFFERENT WHEN YOU DO THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. IS THAT A SECOND? OKAY. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? I THINK WE CLARIFIED THAT SUFFICIENTLY. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT TAKES US BACK TO -- BEFORE WE DO THAT, COUNCILORS, I THINK I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE MY AMENDMENT. WHICH WOULD BE AMENDMENT E IN YOUR PACKET. I WILL CONSIDER THAT NUMBER 13. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? THIS AMENDMENT, WHAT IT DOES, ON PAGE SEVEN LINE THROUGH 20 AND SUBPARAGRAPH ONE AND TWO AS FOLLOWS. MEMBERSHIP MUST BE OPEN TO ALL RECOGNIZED ASSOCIATION, I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY LINE. IT DEALS WITH BOUNDARIES. AND INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS AND PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COALITION BUT WHO ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. IT ALSO CLARIFIES NO RECOGNIZED COALITION SHALL HAVE ANY MEMBERS IN COMMON WITH OTHER RECOGNIZED COALITION. THERE'S A NUMBER TWO. ON PAGE SEVEN, REVISE. ONLY THOSE ASSOCIATIONS, GROUPS AND PERSONS WHO MAY HAVE AFFIRMATIVELY JOINED THE COALITION MAY BE COUNTED AS MEMBERS, BYLAWS DEFINE. NUMBER THREE, ON PAGE SEV, LINE 27 INSERT A NEW SECTION. FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOTICE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITIONS SHALL RECEIVE NOTICE PER THE BOUNDARIES THE NUMBER OF ASSOCIATIONS OR GROUPS ONLY AND NOT FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. I WILL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. NUMBER 13. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. ANY QUESTIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I CAN CLARIFY, IF YOU CAN BRING THE AMENDMENT BACK UP. THERE WAS A CHANGE THAT HAPPENED THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SPONSOR OF THAT CHANGE KNOWS IT'S INCORPORATED. ON PARAGRAPH TWO, ONLY THOSE ASSOCIATIONS, GROUPS AND HOUSEHOLDS WAS THE CHANGE MADE. ON THIS AMENDMENT THAT PERSONS WOULD BE HOUSEHOLDS AND NOT PERSONS. IT DIDN'T TRANSFER BECAUSE THIS WAS TAKEN -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS CLEAR THAT IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. IT WOULD BE HOUSEHOLDS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE BACK TO THE BILL AND TO THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANKS, COUNCILORS, FOR THESE AMENDMENTS. ALL REALLY GOOD STUFF. WE DID SOME BIG BLOCKBUSTER AMENDMENTS TRYING TO CORRAL ALL THESE. THIS IS GOOD STUFF. THIS IS HOW LEGISLATION IS CRAFTED AND AMENDED BEFORE WE PASS IT. I CERTAINLY AM NOT ADVERSE TO A DEFERRAL. I WILL MOVE A DEFERRAL, ALTHOUGH I SEE COUNCILOR BASSAN'S GOT HER HAND UP. LET'S SEE WHAT SHE HAS IN MIND. I THINK THESE ARE ALL HELPFUL AND IN SOME CASES ELEGANTLY AS WITH THE LAST AMENDMENT BY COUNCILOR BORREGO, DEAL WITH THE BOUNDARIES ISSUE OF COALITIONS IN A GOOD WAY. I'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN AND I'LL MOVE A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO SAY MY PEACE AS WELL AND BE TRANSPARENT. ALL OF THE CORRESPONDENCE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE REACHING OUT, I PERSONALLY HAVE YET TO SEE ONE CONSTITUENT OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. IF ANY OF YOU HAVE, I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT. TRULY, NOT ONE HAS SAID THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THEY'RE WILLING TO DO UNLESS IT'S JUST MORE TIME. EVEN THEN, I'M HEARING FROM MY CONSTITUENCY THEY DON'T WANT IT. FOR THAT REASON, EVEN IF A DEFERRAL PASSES OR NOT, I DO NOT SUPPORT A DEFERRAL, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE NARO, AND I WILL VOTE FOR THE CONSTITUENTS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME AND REALLY BEEN VERY VOCAL THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THIS TO PASS. SO, I DO -- I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE PASSED AMENDMENTS THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD IT WILL BE CLOSER. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK. I CAN'T IGNORE THE PEOPLE THAT REACHED OUT TO ME REGULARLY AND LOUDLY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M GETTING THE SAME MAIL THAT MOST EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING. IT IS MOSTLY VERY CRITICAL OF THIS. ALTHOUGH, I HAVE NOTICED THERE'S VERY LITTLE SPECIFICITY IN THEIR COMPLAINT. A FEW PLACES THERE HAVE BEEN. I THINK THOSE COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO THE BEST WE CAN. YOU KNOW, WHEN I KEEP IN MIND WITH THIS ORDINANCE IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE MINORITY. WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT EVERYBODY WHO LIVES WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HOLD AN OFFICE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK AS LOUDLY OR AS CLEARLY OR AS ELOQUENTLY AND MAY NOT BE -- OR MAYBE THEY DON'T GO TO THE MEETINGS. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES. IT DOES PROVIDE SOME PROTECTION FOR MINORITIES. THERE'S THAT. I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS, NO DOUBT. I DO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THEY DO SEE THAT ASPECT OF IT AND APPRECIATE IT. SO NOBODY GETS TRAMPLED ON. THE CITY SHOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF THIS. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT WE'RE TREATING ASSOCIATIONS AS PARTNERS RIGHT? AND COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AND TRUSTING THEIR COMMUNICATION TO US AS BEING REPRESENTATIVE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. THAT REQUIRES A HIGH LEVEL OF TRUST. NOT ONLY THE TRUST THAT THE CITY AND GOVERNMENT HAS IN THEM AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AND DOING, BUT ALSO A TRUST THAT THE PEOPLE LIVING WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES NEED TO HAVE. THAT THEY WON'T MAKE DECISIONS ON NOT USING A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. I DON'T THINK I SAID THAT RIGHT. I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. SO THEY DO THINGS FAIRLY AND DEMOCRATICALLY. SO, I THINK THERE'S LOT HERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT THE SMALLEST VOICES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. LET ME JUST SAY, I 100% ECHO COUNCILOR GIBSON. I THINK SHE MADE MY POINT. I THINK WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A WAY. THIS IN NO WAY CHANGES THE WAY A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR COALITION ENGAGES ITSELF. WE HEARD PEOPLE SAYING I CAN'T CHARGE MEMBERSHIP DUES ANYMORE. WELL THAT'S NOT TRUE. YOU CAN CHARGE MEMBERSHIP DUES FOR OTHER SERVICES, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR OFFICIAL STATUS OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND AREA AND IN YOUR COALITION, NO ONE SHOULD BE EXCLUDED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED OR CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY IN ANTICIPATION OF SOMETHING NO ONE CAN SEE SOMETHING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ON THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY OR NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU LISTEN TO EVERY VOICE AND HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THIS SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS AN OFFENSE OR CRITICISM AGAINST EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND COALITION. IT SHOULD BE TAKEN AS AN OPPORTUNITY WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT AND FIND THE STRONGEST PARTNERS AND FOLKS TO CREATE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH US AND BE SURE PEOPLE ARE MORE ENGAGED. I THINK THIS IS A FIRST STEP. THERE'S PLACES I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CHANGES. I'VE HEARD CRITICISMS THAT EXPECT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS WELL. I 100% THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET 100% RIGHT. I THINK THIS PROCESS GIVES OSBETTER FOUNDATION FOR MAKING THOSE CHANGES IN A MORE EQUITABLE WAY. I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP AND SEE HOW IT WORKS AND VISIT IT NEXT YEAR. JUST LIKE WE DO EVERY YEAR WITH THE IDO AND ANNUAL PROCESS. THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS. I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF MOVE THIS FORWARD TO GET IT STARTED. I'LL DEFER TO THE SPONSORS IN HOW THEY CHOOSE TO COUNT THE VOTES AND MAKE THE DECISION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON. MADAM PRESIDENT, AS WITH ANYTHING THAT'S REMOTELY CONTROVERSIAL WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE FROM THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED THAN WHO SUPPORT. AND WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT IT. AND WE HAVE HAD MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHO HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL THE CRITICISMS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED OVER EMAIL AND VARIOUS OTHER METHODS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS CRITICAL TO OUR LAND USE PROCESS. THIS IS MOSTLY CENTERED, THESE AREN'T A REQUIREMENT FOR A GROUP THAT DOESN'T WANT SPECIAL STANDING WITH REGARD TO LAND USE MATTERS. ANYONE ELSE CAN -- SOMEONE SAID CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, THERE'S NO CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES. THERE'S FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY AND ASSOCIATION AND THOSE ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED. THIS IS SOMETHING INTENDED TO ASSURE THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTREACH BEFORE AN ASSOCIATION TAKES A STANCE AS A MATTER THAT WOULD GIVE THEM SPECIAL STANDING. SO, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE HEAR HEADING. I MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SUPPORT. I WILL MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL OUR SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER. I DID WANT TO ASK STAFF WHAT'S THE EXPIRATION ON THIS LEGISLATION. I THINK IT'S JANUARY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION IT'S OCTOBER 18th AND I BELIEVE OUR CLERK IS ABOUT TO IDENTIFY THE EXPIRATION DATE. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BUMP AGAINST THAT UNTIL AT LEAST THE SPRING. I THINK THIS IS INTRODUCED IN MARCH. YOU PLENTY OF TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOUR MOTION IT TO DEFER UNTIL OCTOBER 18th? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO I HAVE A SECOND, COUNCILOR DAVIS? IS THAT A SECOND? >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. COUNCILOR BENTON, WE'RE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL BILL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM J AN YOUR AGENDA. R-191. >>COUN. HARRIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE RECONSIDERATION OF LAST VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN MOVE THAT, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND. THERE'S SAEKD -- SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL RECONSIDER THAT VOTE. THAT IS ITEM O-71. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, POINT OF ORDER. THIS IS FOR THE RECONSIDERATION. >> A VOTE FOR RECONSIDER REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THIS IS FOR RECONSIDERATION COUNCILORS. IF IT PASSES, THEN WE WILL RECONSIDER THE -- >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND TAKE UP BILL O-71 FOR A VOTE AS A RECONSIDERATION. COUNCILOR DAVIS. YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: POINT OF ORDER. NOW THAT WE'RE BACK ON WHAT I BELIEVE -- CAN YOU CLARIFY WE'RE BACK ON DISCUSSION OF THE BILL. THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS YES. THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, IN LIGHT OF THAT, I CAN COUNT VOTES TOO. IN RECOGNITION OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS, WE SHOULD TAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN SO WE DON'T TAKE ALL OF THIS AND THROW IT OUT. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW. I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER UNTIL THE 18th TO TAKE MORE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WORK ON THIS PROCESS AND NOT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THAT A SECOND? >>COUN. BENTON: NO. THE 18th,WASN'T THAT MY ORIGINAL MOTION? >>COUN. BENTON: >>COUN. BENTON: I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE GO TO, LET'S MAKE IT NOVEMBER 15th. IS THAT A COUNCIL MEETING DATE? >>COUN. DAVIS: I CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I THINK MOVING IT PAST THE ELECTION WOULD BE USEFUL. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILOR DAVIS. THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL TO DEFER UNTIL NOVEMBER 15th. WITH THE SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER TO NOVEMBER 15th. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MORE OF A COMMENT. AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING WE TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME HAS GONE BY AND HOW MUCH PUBLIC INPUT AND HOW MUCH WE HEARD FROM. I STILL STAND BY MY NO DEFERRAL. AND I CANNOT SUPPORT THE BILL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. OKAY, NO MORE DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL. WE WILL MOVE TO A VOTE ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. COUNCILOR BENTON, THIS IS YOUR BILL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? I'M SORRY, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. MR. MELENDREZ, THE VOTE ON THE BILL ITSELF? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON HAS HIS HAND UP. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BENTON. I MEAN, THE VOTES AREN'T THERE, THEY'RE NOT THERE. A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IS PUT INTO THIS. IF IT DOESN'T GO TONIGHT THEN MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYONE WHO WORKED SO HARD ON IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE'RE BACK ON THE ORIGINAL BILL, 0-71. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU MOVED THE BILL. THERE WAS A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. AT THE BEGINNING, WHO WAS THAT MADE BY? COUNCILOR DAVIS. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE LAST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING. THAT IS ITEM J, COUNCILOR BENTON R-191. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE A DUE PASS ON 191. IT'S THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO MOVE INTO A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WITH REPRESENTATIVES NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE SOCCER FRANCHISE BEFORE ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED. >>COUN. BORREGO: I HAVE A SECOND. IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. I THINK. ARE THESE ALL SECONDS? COUNCILOR DAVIS, COUNCILOR SENA? >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS IN THE iPAD. I'LL ASK MS. MORRIS TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND I'LL MOVE ONE OF THEM. >>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILORS. THERE ARE TWO AMENDMENTS. THIS BILL IS SELF-EX-PLANATORY. THE BILL AS DRAFTED HAS A TIMELINE WHERE THE THRESHOLD FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT TO BE ENTERED IS THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION. THE TWO AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU HAVE A SIMILAR INTENT IN THAT THEY BOTH SEEK TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN THE TIMELINE TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT TO BE ENTERED. RECOGNIZING THAT THE PROCESS TO GET THE SITE DEVELOPED IS GOING TO BE LONG. AND THAT THERE MAY BE CHANGES NEEDED ALONG THE WAY TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT. ONE AMENDMENT, THE AMENDMENT THAT IS SPONSORED BY REQUEST THAT CAME FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, THIS ONE SETS THE END GOAL OF THE TIMELINE AS THE LEASE AGREEMENT. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER DETAIL IN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THAT LEASE AGREEMENT WOULD BE SIGNED AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS WOULD BE SIGNED. COUNCILOR BENTON'S AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE ULTIMATE ONE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN THAT SIMILAR TIMELINE. IT ALSO ENDS WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENTS. HOWEVER, COUNCILOR BENTON'S AGREEMENT REQUIRES THAT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT BE INITIATED AT THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT STAGE. SO, WHEN THE CITY IS PUTTING THE APPLICATION FOR THE ZONE MAP STADIUM. THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT WOULD NEED TO BE SPONSORED AT THAT STAGE AND IT WOULD BE COMPLETED AT THE OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT STAGE. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: SINCE I DID AGREE TO PUT IN THE ADMINISTRATION'S AMENDMENT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM IF THEY WANT TO WEIGH IN. I SEE MR. RAEL IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL, ARE YOU PREPARED? >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU. I THINK WE ALL HAVE THE SAME, IN MY PERSPECTIVE, THE SAME GOAL. THAT IS TO GET A CBA AGREEMENT IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN ASSURE THE IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY MAP HAVE THE BENEFIT OF MITIGATING THE IMPACTS OF A MAJOR FACILITY IF THE VOTERS CHOOSE TO APPROVE THAT IN NOVEMBER. OUR REQUEST WAS TO TIE THE CBA TO A LEASE AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRINCIPLE LEASEEE, IN THIS CASE NEW MEXICO UNITED WOULD BE PART OF THAT AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE AGREEMENT IN A CONTRACTUAL MANNER SO WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS IN SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF CONNECTING THAT AND HAVING THE ZONE FEE CHANGE TRIGGER. THAT WORKS AS WELL. I EXPLAINED TO COUNCILOR BENTON EARLY ON THAT MY ONLY WOULD BE IF FOR EXAMPLE WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING A SITE AND IT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE COUNTY OR IT HAPPENS TO BE ON UNM LAND OR WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICATION, THEN OUR GOAL HERE MIGHT BE -- IN EITHER CASE IF THE COUNCIL FEELS COMPELLED TO USE ZONING STRUCTURE AS A METHOD FOR CPA INITIATED AND DONE, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL MAKE THAT WORK. WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS, WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE CPA. THE MAYOR IS WANTING TO GET THIS DONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: ON THAT POINT, I WAS ONE OF THE -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD, MR. RAEL, COUNCILOR BENTON, IS IF THIS STADIUM -- FIRST OF ALL WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED. SECONDLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. I JUST HAD SOME REZZERSERVATION ABOUT APPROVING SOMETHING THAT HASN'T GONE TO THE VOTERS. WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GET APPROVED, FIRST OF ALL. SECONDLY, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO. IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I DON'T KNOW. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT, MR. RAEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST TO FURTHER POINT OUT THE ISSUE. I THINK THERE IS A GENUINE INTEREST ON ALL OF OUR PARTS, I ASSUME, TO ENSURE THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IMPACTED BY THIS FACILITY HAS A VOICE IN HELPING STRUCTURE WHAT CONTRIBUTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MITIGATE IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IT'S GOOD FAITH SHOWING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT WHAT CAN HAP TOON NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE AND WE'RE WILLING TO STEP OUT AND COMMIT TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T SEE SEE THIS AS AN ISSUE THAT WOULD PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AS IT RELATES TO THE VOTE. I ACTUALLY THINK IT ADDS VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY THAT MAY DECIDE TO SUPPORT THIS. THE CITY IS VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE WILLING REQUIRE SUPPORT AND IMPACTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE VOTERS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY, SINCE I WAS TALKING, COUNCILOR BENTON WAS ASKING THE QUESTION REGARDING THE AMENDMENT. SPECIFICALLY, IT DISCUSSES THE NRSU ZONE DISTRICT. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THREW ME OFF A LITTLE BIT. WHY ARE WE EVEN DISCUSSING WHAT ZONING -- IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MAKING A DECISION AS TO WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCATED. THAT ALONE BOTHERS ME. >> I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THE STADIUM USE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S ONE OF A HANDFUL OF ABOUT EIGHT USES IN THE CITY THAT REQUIRE THE NON-RESIDENTIAL SENSITIVE USE SEWN DISTRICT. AS LONG AS THE STADIUM IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES, AND IS CITY-OWNED, IT REQUIRES AN NRSU ZONE MAP AMENDMENT. IF THE STADIUM BEINGS AT AN EXISTING STADIUM SITE, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULDN'T APPLY. IF THE STADIUM AS WAS MENTIONED WAS LOCATED IN THE COUNTY OR STATE OR UNM LAND THAT WOULDN'T APPLY. HOWEVER, ALL FOUR OF THE SITES IN THE STUDY AND TWO PREFERRED SITES AND A NUMBER OF THE SITES IN PREVIOUS SETTINGS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY AND REQUIRE THE ZONE DISTRICT MAP AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, WITHOUT QUESTION THIS IS SPECKUELATIVE. IT'S LAYING A PATH FORWARD WERE THE VOTERS TO APPROVE THE BOND. WERE THEY APPROVE THE BOND, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THEY KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS A COMMITMENT TO A CBA. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION. I PERSONALLY WOULD QUESTION THE BALLOT INITIATIVE IN THE ABSENCE OF CBA. THIS IS LAYING THE GROUND WORK FOR THAT AND WHAT MY AMENDMENT DOES IS INSTEAD OF SAYING WE MUST ENTER INTO A CBA BEFORE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT IS INITIATED, IT SAYS THE CBA MUST BE INITIATED PRIOR TO SUBMITTING A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT. IT'S SETTING A TIMELINE. AND IF THE VOTERS APPROVE IT, THERE'S TRIGGERPOINTS AT WHICH WE WOULD BE WORKING TOWARD THE CBA. THAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR BEFORE THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT IS SUBMITTED. WE KNOW THAT ZONE MAP IS A REQUIREMENT. AS WAS DESCRIBED BY MS. MORRIS, A PUBLIC EXISTING STADIUM OR SOMETHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IS NOT BEING CONSIDERED. I'M GOING TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT THAT'S NOT BY REQUEST. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE HAVE A MOTION, DO I HAVE A SECOND. BEFORE I GO TO THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. DID YOU STILL WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT WAS JUST THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN AFTER AND IF THE STADIUM BOND QUESTION GOT APPROVED. COUNCILOR BENTON ADDRESSED THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SENA? IS THAT A SECOND? >>COUN. SENA: THAT'S A SECOND. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. ORTEGA, FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR BENTON, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE SOCCER CLUB'S WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THE CBA. AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE WORKED FOR IT. THIS AGAIN IS JUST EXPLAINING THE GROUND WORK. IT'S NOT SAYING EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE IN THERE. IT DOES LAY THE GROUNDWORK AND THE TIMETABLE WERE THE VOTERS WERE TO APPROVE THE STADIUM BOND. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, I HAD ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION. I JUST REALIZED IT JUST A MINUTE AGO. IN THE BILL, IT TALKS ABOUT THIS HAPPENING BEFORE A ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED. REGARDLESS OF WHERE -- IF THE VOTERS APPROVE IT, AND REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT GOES, YOU'RE SAYING THAT -- I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT'S CORRECT. IN THE FIRST ITEM IN THE AMENDMENT IS CHANGING THE TITLE OF THE BILL. TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT DOES REFERENCE THE ZONE CHANGE BUT IT SAYS THAT THE CITY WILL INITIATE THE CBA AND THEN THE SECOND LANGUAGE -- IT WILL INITIATE THE CBA BEFORE THE ZONE MAP. BUT THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS MOVES FORWARD THE CBA WILL BE INFORMATIVE TO THE PROCESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT GOES, IT WILL BE INITIATED. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. IS THAT YOUR CLOSE? >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS.