This transcript has been processed to identify speakers based on the provided list of officials and contextual clues within the dialogue (such as names used in roll calls, reports, and introductions). [2:23] Unknown Speaker: foreign [2:48] Michele Hanson: All right, I’d like to call the July 10th, 2023, Bayport City Council meeting to order. Let’s all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. [3:13] Matt Kline: Councilmember Hill? **Katie Hill:** Here. **Matt Kline:** Councilmember Doll? **John Doll:** Here. **Matt Kline:** Mayor Hanson? **Michele Hanson:** Here. **Matt Kline:** And Councilmember Gilmore and Councilmember Carlson are absent. [3:30] Michele Hanson: All right, do we have a motion to approve the agenda as prepared, or does anyone have any changes to it? [3:40] John Doll: I will move to approve the agenda as presented. **Katie Hill:** Second. [3:50] Michele Hanson: All right, thanks John and Katie. All those in favor, aye? (Council responds: Aye). Anyone opposed say nay? Okay, so the agenda is approved. We’re going to start with proclamations, accommodations, petitions, and announcements. June recycling award recipient is Paul Parento at 206 2nd Street North. And then now we’re going to have a presentation of a life-saving award. Who’s going to do that? Sergeant Jackson, come on up, and Chief. [4:56] Jay Jackson: I will let everyone know that Officer Slinger also got recognized by the Woodbury EMS personnel for this, but I want to make sure that you guys were all aware of it. It’s quite recent, but I will read his life-saving award to you. On June 25th, Officer Slinger was off duty driving on Pioneer Road in the City of Woodbury with his family... (reads award summary regarding a medical emergency on a running path). Officer Slinger later learned the man had regained a pulse and was breathing before the ambulance left the scene... he was expected to make a full recovery. [6:28] Michele Hanson: That’s awesome, thank you so much. [7:03] Jay Jackson: And Mayor, if I may, I have one thing that was not on your agenda originally. We were just going to do a private lead, presumably at the insistence of the Chief, but being Officer Slinger got his award today, I was able to talk her into it. I’m also presenting her with the life-saving award as well. On May 18th of 2023... (reads award for Chief Eastman regarding a suicide intervention on the Highway 36 bridge). I commend Chief Eastman for her quick thinking, calm demeanor, and the ability to act safely under pressure. [8:49] Michele Hanson: Oh my gosh, that’s amazing. Wow. Okay, so sounds good, thank you so much. We are so lucky to have the officers that we do, and the Chief, and the Sergeant—you guys are amazing. [9:22] Michele Hanson: Okay, so now we’re going to go on to the proclamation for Night to Unite. (Reads proclamation for August 1st, 2023). Proclaimed this 10th day of July. [10:54] Michele Hanson: It is now proclaimed. All right, now we have the Open Forum. Anyone here for—oh, we have someone with some very cute kids. [11:27] Ethan Bell: Hi, my name is Ethan Bell. I’m one of the new owners of The Not Just. My wife Ashley couldn’t be here tonight... just me and the kiddos, Charlie and Perry. I just wanted to express our gratitude for everybody that helped us get to this point. Specific shout out to Sara; she was invaluable in getting all that paperwork taken care of. [12:27] Michele Hanson: Welcome! I’m very excited for you guys. Glad to hear staff was helpful. [13:17] Michele Hanson: All right, so we’re on to the Consent Agenda, items 1 through 11. Do I have a motion to approve the consent agenda? [14:30] John Doll: I move to approve the consent agenda as presented. **Katie Hill:** Second. [14:45] Matt Kline: Councilmember Hill? **Katie Hill:** Aye. **Matt Kline:** Councilmember Doll? **John Doll:** Aye. **Matt Kline:** Mayor Hanson? **Michele Hanson:** Aye. [14:52] Michele Hanson: Unfinished business is to consider amendments to Appendix E, the Floodplain Management. Sara’s going to present this item. [15:10] Matt Kline: Mayor, actually I’ll take the first part of it. This discussion was tabled last month. Staff wants to provide additional detail. First, this is not a new ordinance with more stringent regulation; it’s an update to comply with the National Flood Insurance Program. Second, the ordinance is not being changed to allow the city to enter private property for no reason. Third, the ordinance is not being changed regarding permit requirements resulting from disasters. Sarah is going to provide an overview of the significant changes. [17:56] Sara Taylor: A summary of the significant changes include graphics to explain confusing concepts, referencing FEMA technical bulletins, and higher standards indicated in blue text. In section 3.3, it clarifies the boundaries of the floodway. Section 4 summarizes standards for all development. (Continues through technical updates to flood proofing, accessory structures, and substantial damage determinations). [22:34] Michele Hanson: Thank you so much. I know you spent a lot of time annotating the draft. Council members, do you have any questions? [23:45] Katie Hill: Can you tell me what pages those are on? [24:01] Sara Taylor: The first definition relates to critical facilities, necessary for emergency response and recovery... (Explains blue text regarding light duty trucks, repetitive loss, and fill limitations). [28:38] Matt Kline: Mayor, I think it would be appropriate, since there was concern last time, if anyone wanted to come up for this discussion. [28:57] Phil Sayanors: I’ll go first. Phil Sayanors, Lake Street. The fill topic you just talked about—is that going to negatively impact your ability to work with the park? [29:16] Matt Kline: Phil, we don’t necessarily intend to add significant amount of fill in any of those areas. I don’t see that being an issue. [29:43] Phil Sayanors: The 679.6 number... it was said that it’s not used for setbacks or impervious surface. If it were, it would have a significant negative impact. [31:26] Matt Kline: Phil, essentially that 679.6 has been in place as the floodway forever. For setbacks and impervious surface, we are still using the 675 number. [32:14] Phil Sayanors: Would there be any way to get what these heights are? There isn't a reference as to what Bayport's numbers are in the template. [33:07] Matt Kline: Sarah and I had this discussion. The advice from the DNR was not to include them in the template because if they change, we'd have to change the ordinance, but we can definitely provide those numbers to you. [36:35] Jane (Resident): Is the city going to buy flood insurance? [37:13] Matt Kline: The city carries flood insurance specifically for facilities that could be affected by flooding, like the beach house. [38:40] Matt Kline: The intent of this ordinance is to reduce repetitive losses for facilities that carry flood insurance. It allows people to raise their facilities to decrease those losses. [40:32] Robin Ellingson: Robin Ellingson, Lakeside Drive. What about those residents who routinely experience flood water? Does this ordinance make it more or less difficult for them to insure their home? Many residents are really low and we don’t want to make things more difficult. [42:03] Matt Kline: We have the input here. I don't believe it would impact their property negatively. [44:21] Sara Taylor: One of the main drivers for updating this was actually a property in the middle of town where the current ordinance prohibited them from constructing a standard garage because they were limited to 500 square feet. This new ordinance allows up to 576 square feet. It’s actually providing more flexibility. [47:25] Robin Ellingson: This is Robin Ellingson again. We didn’t have a whole lot of notice. This is a 15-page ordinance. I’m asking the council to give residents more time to digest this. Why the rush? [48:22] Michele Hanson: I don’t feel like we rushed. I feel like we had no idea there were going to be concerns because it seemed so standard. [48:54] Sara Taylor: It was on our website on May 19th for the Planning Commission. [49:03] Katie Hill: Sarah, that’s a long time. [49:15] Michele Hanson: If you want more time, I’m in no rush. I agree that the summary and changes just came out. [50:18] Sara Taylor: I just want to add that staff really are advocates for people wanting to improve their property. We aren't against you. [51:52] Chris Hayner: Chris Hayner, Point Road. The word repetitive keeps showing up. Can you define repetitive? [52:10] Matt Kline: Flood-related damage sustained by a structure on two separate occasions during a 10-year period where the cost of repairs equals or exceeds 25% of the market value. [53:07] Chris Hayner: If you have water in a basement twice in 10 years and then can't expand or build, that’s Draconian. [56:14] Tom (City Attorney): The repetitive loss definition is used with regards to non-conforming structures. If a non-conforming structure experiences a repetitive loss, it must be reconstructed in conformity with the provisions of this ordinance. [1:01:23] Matt Kline: To clarify, that means anything below elevation 693. [1:02:10] Chris Hayner: Matt, can you repeat that level? Anything below 693? That included a lot of Bayport in 1964 and 1972. [1:06:05] Robin Ellingson: I’m just pointing out there is still a lot of confusion. I think we need a working group of folks to ask practical questions. [1:08:18] Michele Hanson: I understand your concerns. I think we need to give it more time. [1:13:58] Tom (City Attorney): Under section 11.24, there is an opportunity for a variance. The council is entitled to consider extreme circumstances. [1:17:40] Chris Krangel: Chris Krangel, Point Road. The level is controlled by locks and dams. In 2004, Wells Fargo tried to force flood insurance on me based on a 1974 document. Whatever we have here becomes a document a third party can use to get our citizens into real trouble. [1:27:35] Bill Bergstrom: Bill Bergstrom, Point Road. I don’t think you guys are under attack, but there is a great deal of vagary to this document. More specificity would be better. [1:31:07] Jody (Resident): Jody, Lake Street. The only way we found out about this was through neighbors. The people affected even more than us don't know about it. You say they should be here, but it was put out three or four days ahead of time. [1:33:55] Katie Hill: How do you get communication from the city? Are you signed up for emails? I want to understand where the breakdown is. [1:36:31] Orin Kipp: There’s a meeting every month. It’s incumbent upon every resident to look at the city website. This stuff is not hidden. [1:38:20] John Doll: Is there a process by which folks impacted receive a mailing? [1:40:16] Michele Hanson: There was some misinformation about staff coming on your property. That didn't change. [1:41:02] Katie Hill: If you have an open building permit, the inspector can come out. If there's a complaint, they can come out. [1:42:00] Orin Kipp: In the interest of harmony... I think we've done our due diligence. If citizens want to come forward with specifics, come forward. [1:42:15] John Doll: I see no harm in waiting one more month to give them time to read it, but I don't want to spend more staff time putting together a group. [1:43:18] Michele Hanson: Okay, so let's table it to the next regular council meeting. All those in favor? (Council: Aye). [1:44:00] Michele Hanson: City Council liaison reports. John? [1:44:19] John Doll: Watershed management. We have an automatic sampling machine installed for E coli in Peril Creek. [1:44:48] Simon Worth: I do know they have a flow device... E coli tends to increase exponentially when we get significant flow. [1:48:15] Katie Hill: BCAL. Ice cream social went good. Getting ready for Derby Days. Farmer’s market is on Mondays at 2:30. [1:50:29] Michele Hanson: I served ice cream social. Met with the Fire Relief Association. Met with the editor of The Gazette. Met with Brian Zeller about the old school location. Met with People’s Church. Today I went to the Regional Council of Mayors. [1:53:48] Matt Kline: City Administrator reports. Curbside cleanup went extremely well. Second, Sarah has the data on the vouchers. [1:54:23] Sara Taylor: We advertised a $50 voucher to the first 25 participants. All in all, the total bill was around $600. [1:54:49] Matt Kline: Lastly, Simon Worth, our new Public Works Director, is on board. He’s from Lakeland and has five or six years of experience. [1:55:54] Orin Kipp: In the interest of harmony, regarding the school: there are no ulterior motives or dealings behind closed doors. I’m proud of the city's work. I hope the rumors and false information subside. [1:57:44] Michele Hanson: We decided in the workshop that we are going to do a survey of the community so every voter gets a chance to tell us how they feel about relocating the school. [1:58:21] John Doll: I make a motion we adjourn. **Katie Hill:** Second. **Michele Hanson:** All those in favor? (Council: Aye). We’re adjourned.