. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MARCH 7TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. TONIGHT WE HAVE SIX WHICH IS A QUORUM. THE COMMISSION ADVISES CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. OUR WORK IS INFORMED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VARIOUS DISTRICT PLANS AND THE CITY CODE FOR SOME ITEMS THE COUNCIL THE COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL HAVING THE FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. WE HAVE ITEM OF THAT NATURE ON THE AGENDA. IN OTHER CASES THE PLANNING CAN APPROVE OR DENY AN APPLICATION SUBJECT TO APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THERE ARE NONE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. FOR EACH ITEM THERE WILL BE A STAFF REPORT AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEN TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE STAND AS YOU ARE ABLE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH HE STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THE FIRST ITEM TONIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S A PRIVATELY INITIATED CITY CODE AMENDMENT AND SENIOR PLANNER CENTENARIO HAS THE. THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THERE'S A PRIVATELY CITY CODE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM USE IN THE I TO LIMIT IT INDUSTRY ZONING DISTRICT SO VERY TECHNICAL TITLE TO ON YOUR AGENDA BUT WE'LL WILL DETAIL WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. SO FIRST OFF THE PROPOSED CITY CODE AMENDMENT ONLY APPLIES TO LAND THAT IS ZONED I TO LIMIT INDUSTRY AND THE MAP ON THE SCREEN HERE IS MAP OF ALL OF THE ITA PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE ARE RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW THE CITY HALL IS A PROPERTY THAT ZONED IT TO AND IT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS IS KIND OF LOCATED IN THIS MORE OR LESS CENTRAL CENTRALIZED INDUSTRIAL AREA WITHIN THE CITY THERE'S A COUPLE OF PARCELS OR A FEW PARCELS THE NORTHWEST ALONG INTERSTATE 44 THAT ARE ALSO ZONED I TOO BUT BY AND LARGE THERE'S A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT WOULD APPLY TO THIS GENERAL AREA SO INCLUDED THE DEFINITION OF CONGREGATE LIVING THIS IS THIS IS TAKEN RIGHT FROM THE CODE WHERE ESSENTIALLY IT'S IT'S A TYPE OF HOUSING COMMON DINING SPACES, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES FOOD SERVICE AND THEN YOU KNOW THERE'S A SECOND SENTENCE WHAT IT WOULD A CONGREGATE FACILITY IS NOT AND YOU SEE THAT IS BED AND BREAKFAST RESORTS, VACATION HOMES ETC. ETC. FROM A FROM A NUTS BOLTS PERSPECTIVE WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO THE CODE TO ALLOW A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY AS AN INTERIM USE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THIS IS A JUST A GRAPHIC FROM THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND YOU CAN SEE UNDER THE LIVING HEADING YOU HAVE A CITY LICENSED FACILITY SERVING FIVE OR MORE PERSONS. YOU KNOW THAT'S THE THAT'S THE USE CATEGORY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY THERE IS NOTHING IN THE I TO BOX MEANING THAT IT'S PROHIBITED WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY HENNEPIN COUNTY THE APPLICANT IS TO SIMPLY PUT AN EITHER TO A LOT AS AN INTERIM INTERIM USE SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THIS REALLY BE A TWO STEP PROCESS IF IF THERE IS TO BE A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY IN THE I TO DISTRICT FIRST OFF THE FIRST STEP IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE REVIEWING A CITY CODE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THIS USE AS AN INTERIM AS AN INTERIM USE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE CODE . THE SECOND STEP WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE PRESUMABLY HENNEPIN COUNTY TO APPLY FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT. SO IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS. ANY ACTION THE COMMISSION TONIGHT OR ANY ACTION BY THE CITY FOR THIS APPLICATION ISN'T APPROVING ANY CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES. IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON AMENDING THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW SOMEONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR A FACILITY IN THE I DO DISTRICT. THAT SAID, THEY'RE THERE IS OF COURSE THE SITE THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THIS APPLICATION AND IT'S THE EXISTING HOLIDAY AND A HOTEL ON 94TH AND 35 W SO THIS IS ONLY TWO AND HAS THE HENNEPIN COUNTY HAS BEEN LEASING THIS HOTEL SINCE 2020 EXACTLY HOW THE HOW IT HAS BEEN USED HAS EVOLVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS BUT THE COUNTY WISHES TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A FACILITY CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY AT THIS LOCATION HENCE THE THE CITY CODE AMENDMENT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. NOW AS A FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE WE DON'T THINK THIS IS A GREAT SITE FOR A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY AS WE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT THERE IS SOME TRANSIT ALONG 94TH STREET BUT IT IS IT DOESN'T REALLY CONNECT TO A LOT IT'S REALLY A BLOOMINGTON BASED ROUTE. THERE IS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USES IN THIS AREA. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC KNOW THIS IS A INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE SO ON AND OFF RAMPS IT IS QUITE REALLY ISN'T MUCH IN WAY OF PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS RECREATIONAL FACILITIES ARE SPARSE AND I IT'S ABOUT A MILE A MILE TO A GROCERY STORE SO NOT AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY THAT SAID AGAIN, WE OFTEN HAVE TO WEIGH COMPETING INTERESTS THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS THE CITY'S OVERALL GUIDING DOCUMENT AND WHAT WE LOOKED LOOK TO WHEN CONSIDERING THESE TYPES OF CITY CODE AMENDMENTS AND THE THE CONFERENCE PLAN PRETTY EXPLICIT FRANKLY AND WHAT A AN ADOPTED STRATEGY IS FOR THIS TYPE OF CONCERN AND THAT IS TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS LOCAL REGIONAL PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, AND THE COUNTY THE APPLICANT FITS FITS PRETTY VERY WELL INTO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A ADOPTED STRATEGY BY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RELATED ASSISTING WITH HOMELESSNESS AND THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON WHY THE STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE CODE AMENDMENT TONIGHT SHOULD CODE AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND AGAIN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY TO APPLY FOR INTERVIEWS PERMIT BUT THERE ARE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AND I JUST HAVE PORTION OF THOSE STANDARDS UP ON SCREEN A MANAGEMENT PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED IF YOU RECEIVED A COUPLE OF LETTERS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS WITH HOW THE FACILITY HAS HAS OPERATED AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THEIR TO THEIR STAFF OR TO THEIR PROPERTY OR TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING IN THIS FACILITY AND THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WOULD HOPEFULLY ADDRESS A LOT OF THOSE CONCERNS AND CERTAINLY THERE'D BE A LOT OF IMPACT OR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND WITH IT WITH THE APPLICANT THERE'S ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER ITEMS. YOU KNOW REAL GENERAL A LOT OF THE CITY CODE RELATES TO HOW A SITE IS BEING USED OR OPERATED AND IT WITH TRASH, WITH LANDSCAPING, PARKING AND LIGHTING ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ELEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE CONSIDERING IF WE WERE TO REVIEW INTERVIEWS FOR A CONGREGATE LIVING. THERE ARE ALSO INTERIM USE PERMIT FINDINGS OF FACT AND INTERIM USE IS KEY HERE IT IS NOT MEANT TO DELAY PERMANENT DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THERE'S INTERVIEWS, PERMITS WHERE THEY'VE EXISTED FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BUT GOING BACK TO THE FEEDBACK YOU RECEIVED FROM PROPERTY OWNERS IF I HAD TO SUMMARIZE THEIR CONCERNS IT REALLY FOCUSES ON IN OUR MIND FINDINGS FOUR AND SIX WHETHER OR NOT THEY USED TO BE INJURIOUS TO THE SURROUNDING HARM PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE AND THAT THE PROPERTY HAS NO ENFORCEMENT OR NUISANCE CHARACTERISTICS. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S INTERPRETING THE COMMENTARY PROPERTY OWNERS I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHERE ESSENTIALLY A GENERALIZATION OF WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE AND SOMETHING THAT IF THE CODE IS ADOPTED WE WOULD WE WOULD SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND I HAVE A RECOMMENDED MOTION ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU CHAIR MR. CENTENARIO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TERMINOLOGY USES INTERIM CAN YOU DEFINE INTERIM IS THERE A LENGTH OF TIME THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS INTERIM VERSUS CONDITIONAL VERSUS PERMANENT? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO INTERIM WAS SUGGESTED IS TEMPORARY AND THE INTERIM USE PERMIT IS WOULD BE APPROVING A USE UP TO FIVE YEARS NOW FOLKS CAN REAPPLY FOR A NEW INTERIM USE PERMIT BUT THE MAXIMUM PERIOD OF TIME THAT CAN BE APPROVED WITH AN INTERVIEW DEPARTMENT IS A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, A CONDITIONAL USE IT RUNS WITH THE LAND. SO IF A CONDITIONAL USE IS ESTABLISHED FOR A PROPERTY IT STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY, DOESN'T STAY WITH A BUSINESS, DOESN'T STAY WITH AN INDIVIDUAL. IT'S YOUTH BASED AND IT STAYS WITH THE PROPERTY UNTIL IT SAY A RESTAURANT IS APPROVED THROUGH A CONDITIONAL. THE BUSINESS CAN CHANGE. THE RESTAURANT CAN CHANGE. IT'S STILL A RESTAURANT AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD STILL APPLY RELATED TO THAT QUESTION I. M THE FIRST PART IS PROBABLY PRETTY BASIC THE SECOND PART I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT AHEAD OF TIME A LITTLE MORE BUT ARE THE GENERAL PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE WE ALLOW INTERIM USES VERSUS NOT SURE? GREAT QUESTION COMMISSIONER ARCHER THE INTERIM USES HAVE SHRUNK OVER TIME. THEY USED TO BE CALLED TEMPORARY CONDITIONAL PERMITS AND THEN THE TERMINOLOGY CHANGE TO INTERVIEWS PERMITS THERE ARE STILL A FEW USES. WE ESTABLISHED A PANDEMIC INTERIM USE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THERE YOU KNOW THE MOST I WOULD SAY WIDELY USED INTERVIEWS IS REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND THAT IS LIMITED TO YOU KNOW A VERY CONFINED A VERY CONFINED IN PLAY MANAGER MARKET GUARD I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER INTERVIEWS IN THE CITY THAT ARE STILL INTACT AND I I DON'T I CAN'T THINK OF THAT ONE WAS RELATED TO EXTERIOR STORAGE THAT INTERVIEWS HAS BEEN REMOVED AND ARE THERE IN OUR EXPERIENCE WHEN WE HAVE HAD INTERIM USES AGAIN THIS IS THE WAY I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A LITTLE MORE HOMEWORK ON MY OWN AND THOSE INTERIM USES GENERALLY RUN FOR A LIMITED PERIOD TIME OR. DO WE TYPICALLY SEE THEM BROUGHT BACK FOR RENEWAL A APART FROM REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING? YES. THE INTENT IS FOR THEM TO EVENTUALLY TERMINATE AND EITHER ESTABLISH A PERMIT DEVELOPMENT OR YOU KNOW CHANGE SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE A LOT OF THE INTERVIEWS, THE PERMITS THAT WERE IN PLACE THEY'VE THEY'VE RUN OUT OF TIME AND HAVE TERMINATED THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MANY ANYMORE. OKAY COMMISSIONER COOKED IN THE LITERATURE MR. SAID SCENARIO YOU SAID THE MAXIMUM WAS FIVE YEARS AS THE CITY COUNCIL HAD DISCRETION OF LESS THAN FIVE YEARS A COMMISSIONER I BELIEVE THEY DO YOU KNOW THEY GENERALLY THE COUNCIL HAS TO TAKE ACTION ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BUT THEN THEY ALSO I THINK THEN CAN APPROVE A DIFFERENT TIMELINE WITH THE GLEN IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT IT'S JEROME AND COMMISSIONER IT COULD AN APPLICANT COULD APPLY FOR ANY TERM AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT EXCEED FIVE YEARS IF THEY WISH TO EXCEED FIVE YEARS THEY WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE IN ADDITION TO THE INTERIM USE PERMIT BUT FIVE YEARS IS THE THE MAXIMUM. OKAY THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CURRY. THANK YOU CHAIR HAS THE CITY CONSIDERED OR LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THAT THIS USE COULD ACTUALLY BE USED AT LIKE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS ARE THERE I MEAN WHAT OTHER HOTELS ARE IN THE AREA OR IS THIS THE ONLY SITE JEROME AND COMMISSIONER CURRY WE DID AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CODE AMENDMENT QUITE NARROWLY TAILORED FOR THIS SITE. YOU KNOW THERE ARE QUITE A FEW MULTIPLE TENANT INDUSTRIAL OR PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA AND FRANKLY WE JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY SITES THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE BASED ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF INDUSTRIAL USES. YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE JUST IMPROVEMENTS YOU WOULD ASSOCIATE WITH A RESIDENTIAL SITUATION A RESIDENTIAL USE. MR. GOLTZMAN THANK YOU CHAIR. I HAVE QUESTIONS IF I MAY. THE FIRST QUESTION IS AROUND THE CURRENT USE OF THE HOTEL. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOTELS IN AN EYE TO DISTRICT? IS THAT LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING OR IS THAT ALLOWED? WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PROPERTY? THANK YOU CHAIR. COMMISSIONER IT IS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING A HOTEL COULD NOT BE BUILT ON A DIFFERENT PROPERTY SO IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND SO WITH CITY CODE HAS AND CHANGED OVER THE DECADES AND EXISTING USERS HAVE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING STATUS. SO THIS YOU KNOW THIS IS THE ONLY HOTEL IN THE I TWO DISTRICT AND FRANKLY I THINK IN THE ONLY HOTEL IN ANY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S REALLY THE CONSENSUS. SO SECOND QUESTION IF I MAY, THANK YOU. I VAGUELY REMEMBER YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN AND I, I VAGUELY REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN THE COMP PLAN ABOUT PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL USES AND PROTECTING OUR INDUSTRIAL BASE WITHIN THE CITY. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND HOW IT LINES UP WITH WITH THIS? I DO DISTRICT? SURE. JEROME AND COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW THE THE KIRTLAND THE PROPERTY THAT'S YOU KNOW, THE IMPETUS FOR THIS APPLICATION IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL USE. SO THE IF A WERE TO BE OPERATE OUT OF THE SITE THERE WOULD BE NO LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL BUT ALSO ALSO RELATED TO COMMERCIAL CREW. QUESTION ABOUT WHAT OTHER SITES MIGHT BE SUITABLE AND REALLY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WERE ANY. SO IF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A CODE AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE SCHOOLS THAT ULTIMATELY WAS NOT SUPPORTED AND WE FELT ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT WAS THERE WERE A LOT OF BUILDINGS OR SITES THAT BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SCHOOLS THAT ARE CURRENT ZONE AND USE PROPERTIES. SO WE FELT THAT THAT WAS INSTANCE WHERE THERE COULD BE AN EROSION OF THE INDUSTRIAL USE BASE WITHIN THE CITY AND WOULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH THAT LAND USE POLICY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SCOTT AND MR. CHAIR. MR. SAID SCENARIO. SO THE HOTEL IS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING TODAY IF ITS USE WERE TO CHANGE TO A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY COULD IT GO BACK TO BEING A HOTEL OWNER SINCE THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR USE AND THEIR NON-CONFORMING THEY COULD NOT GO BACK RESTRICTION THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE QUESTION WAS? BUT I DID YES. CHAIR ROOM AND COMMISSIONER AND I WANT TO VERIFY THING IN THE CODE AND SORT OF GO BACK TO THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. COMMISSIONER CURRY, JUST I GUESS WHAT WOULD JUST HAPPEN TO THIS HOTEL IF THIS WAS NOT APPROVED? DOES THE HOTEL GO ON INDEFINITELY UNDER ITS CURRENT SITUATION OR IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON HOW LONG IT WOULD BE ABLE OPERATE IN THIS WAY? COMMISSIONERS YEAH THE YOU KNOW THE COUNTY TO THEIR IS TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE STEPS TO MAKE IT AN APPROVED FACILITY. IT'S BEEN OPERATING SINCE 2020 AND THEN THERE'S JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS SO IT HASN'T STOPPED. YOU KNOW THE ULTIMATELY IF THIS ISN'T APPROVED YOU KNOW WE TRY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND ON WHAT THE CITY COULD DO TO PERHAPS OTHER SITES. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE SITE IF THE FACILITY WERE TO CLOSE IT? COULD YOU IT COULD HYPOTHETICALLY GO BACK TO A HOTEL. IT COULD BE SOLD, COULD CHANGE HANDS. IT COULD BE REDEVELOPED FOR SOME OTHER USE. IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY. OKAY. SO JUST I GUESS THE POINT OF THE QUESTION IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG IT WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THIS FOR THIS USE SPECIFICALLY COMMISSIONER IS IT MY SURE I COULD ANSWER IT KNOW WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T BE I GUESS WE WOULDN'T BE IN A HURRY TO CLOSE A FACILITY WE'D REALLY TRY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO TRY AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF IT NOT BEING COMPLIANT CITY CODE . THANK YOU. IT'S CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER COULD DO FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR QUESTION. SO THE USE IS LISTED A CONDITIONAL USE BUT IT'S FOR HOTELS IN EXISTENCE PRIOR THERE'S A DATE IN 2019 WHICH THIS IS IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO SO TODAY IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE BUT ONCE THAT USE CEASES AND CERTAINLY FOR A PERIOD OF MORE THAN 12 MONTHS THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REESTABLISH THAT USE WITHOUT AN ADDITIONAL CODE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW HOTELS IN THAT DISTRICT. MR. GOLTZMAN YOUR CHAIR DID THE CITY ALSO LOOK EFFORTS INSTEAD OF CHANGING THIS TO AN INTERIM USE TO ACTUALLY REZONING THE PROPERTY TO DO A DISTRICT OTHER THAN I DO? COMMISSIONER OWN OR CHAIR ROHMAN CULTURE WE DIDN'T REZONING IT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN ACCOMPANYING BY A COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE PLAN AMENDMENT OR THE LET THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN INDUSTRIAL AND THEN WE WE GET IN A VERY A BROADER DISCUSSION ON THE APPROPRIATENESS OF A LAND USE GUIDE PLAN CHANGE WHETHER IT TO BE RESIDENTIAL OR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE AND YOU KNOW, JUST OFF THE CUFF I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'D ABLE TO FIND THAT THAT WAS A PRUDENT THING TO DO AND CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN ADD ON TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. THIS AREA IS LIKE UNIVERSALLY ZONED II TWO AND THEN THREE ACROSS THE FREEWAY SO UNIVERSALLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL POTENTIAL DISTRICT TO ESTABLISH CONGREGATE LIVING WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. WE WOULD VIEW THAT AS A SPOT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SURROUNDED BY OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONES AND ALSO NOT FOR THE REASONS MR. SAID SCENARIO DISCUSSED IN THE PRESENTATION WOULD NOT BE A GOOD SPOT FOR. PERMANENT RESIDENTIAL COMMISSIONER KIRK THANK YOU CHAIR. CAN YOU THE YOU MENTIONED THE CHARTER I THINK IT WAS A CHARTER SCHOOL THAT HOYT PROPERTIES INITIATED. CAN REVISIT WHAT YOU HAD SAID ABOUT THAT AGAIN AND WHY THAT WAS NOT APPROVED OR HOW THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT HERE? SURE. WELL CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, THE I WOULD SAY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS CODE NAME AND APPLICATION THIS ONE IS THAT THE THE PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW ABOUT A HOUSING AND SO THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM THE PLAN ON HOW WE SHOULD CONSIDER AN LIKE THIS AND CONVERSELY CONVERTING INDUSTRIAL USES TO SCHOOL SCHOOLS IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE POLICY TO TRY AND RETAIN AND LIMIT EROSION OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES. THERE'S ALSO CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF OF CHILDREN THAT MIGHT BE OCCUPYING AN INDUSTRIAL USE WHERE THERE ARE TENANTS MULTIPLE TENANTS SOME HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES COULD HYPOTHETICALLY BE RIGHT NEXT TO A SCHOOL. SO WE FELT THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT LAND USE CONFLICTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? STAFF ? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU. CHAIR ROHMAN COMMISSIONERS MY NAME IS SPENCER AGNEW AND THE COUNTY'S REAL ESTATE MANAGER. SOME OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES ARE HERE AS WELL. AND THANK YOU CENTENARIO FOR YOUR SUMMARY OF APPLICATION. I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND THEN INVITE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES TO SPEAK TO THE NEED BUT I'LL KIND OF ADDRESS THE RATIONALE FOR OUR APPLICATION AND THE BASIS OF THAT. ESSENTIALLY KIND OF ASKING FOR YOUR AND THE CITY SUPPORT IN OUR EFFORTS TO ADDRESS AN URGENT AND GROWING NEED FOR SHELTER FOR HOMELESS FAMILIES AND SPECIFICALLY AS MR. CENTENARIO TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING THE FIRST OF WE HOPE WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE A TWO STEP PROCESS FIRST TO REQUEST AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S ZONING CODE TO ALLOW THE CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM USE IN THE EIGHTH DISTRICT. AND THEN IF THAT'S APPROVED TONIGHT AND BY YOUR COUNCIL WE WOULD THEN RETURN WITH AN INTERIM USE PERMIT APPLICATION AT THAT TIME DOVE MANY OF THE SPECIFIC CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BY STAFF. I UNDERSTAND BY A COUPLE OF SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AT THAT TIME AS WE PURSUE AN APPLICATION FOR A TEMPORARY AN INTERIM USE PERMIT AS WAS MENTIONED THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY OF CONCERN IS A HOTEL LOCATED AT 1201 WEST 94TH STREET PREVIOUSLY HOLIDAY INN. THE COUNTY HAS RECENTLY LEASED THAT PROPERTY. AS STAFF MENTIONED BEGINNING IN 2020 FOR THE PROVISION OF TEMPORARY PANDEMIC RESPONSE SHELTER FOR PEOPLE AT HIGH MEDICAL RISK FOR FOR COVID DURING THE PANDEMIC AND THAT PROPERTY DID PROVIDE A REALLY IMPORTANT TOOL IN OUR RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC AS THAT HAS WOUND DOWN WE'RE NOW EXPERIENCING A KIND OF A NEW RAPIDLY GROWING WHICH IS FAMILY HOMELESSNESS AND WE'RE SEEKING TO ENTER INTO A TWO YEAR LEASE WITH A PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE FAMILY SHELTER FOR FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. AS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED, THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY ZONED INTO LIMITED INDUSTRY GUIDED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND CONGREGATE. LIVING FACILITIES ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT. A NUMBER OF OTHER NINE AND NINE INDUSTRIAL USES ARE SUCH THINGS AS HOTELS EXISTING PRIOR TO 2019 WORK LIVE UNITS SOCIAL SERVICE DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES AND TEMPORARY PANDEMIC SERVICE FACILITIES AMONG A NUMBER OF OTHER NON-INDUSTRIAL USES. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION OF THE CONGREGATE CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN ELIGIBLE INTERIM USE IN THAT DISTRICT WOULD BE CONGRUENT WITH OTHER USES ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT. CURRENTLY THE CITY CODE ONLY ALLOWS CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS CONDITIONAL USES IN A LIMITED LIMITED NUMBER OF ZONING DISTRICTS PRIMARILY MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS . AND WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR THAT AS IT PERTAINS TO A PERMANENT CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY IN OUR EXPERIENCE THOSE TYPES OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AREN'T PRACTICAL A TEMPORARY FACILITY FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. THE MARKET COST OF THOSE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, THE LACK OF VACANCY FOR EXAMPLE WE'D BE UNLIKELY TO BUY AN EXISTING APARTMENT BUILDING TO CONVERT IT TO A SHELTER. YOU HAVE TO RELOCATE ALL THE OTHER ALL OF THE EXISTING TENANTS WHICH WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND LIKELY TOO EXPENSIVE TO BE ABLE TO BE FEASIBLE IN OUR EXPERIENCE TRYING TO FIND KIND OF ANYPLACE WE CAN ADDRESS THIS NEED ACROSS THE COUNTY. THESE TWO DISTRICTS ARE OFTEN MOST FEASIBLE DISTRICTS WITH LARGER OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HOTEL INSTITUTIONAL TYPE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE VACANCIES IN THE CURRENT MARKET MORE READILY ADAPTABLE ON A SHORT TERM BASIS TO THE URGENT NEED . AGAIN THEY'D BE IMPRACTICAL TO CONSTRUCT A NEW FACILITY TO ADDRESS A TEMPORARY NEED MIGHT TAKE YEARS TO DO SO IN WHICH CASE THE NEED MAY HAVE COME AND GONE. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED WOULD KIND OF BUILD IN SOME PRUDENT FLEXIBILITY GIVING THE THE CITY THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER FOR TEMPORARY INTERIM CONGREGATE USE FACILITIES IN AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE IT MAY MAKE SENSE. THE AMENDMENT WE PROPOSE WOULD LIMIT THAT ONLY TO INTERIM OR TEMPORARY FACILITIES AS DESCRIBED NO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATING A LEASE OF TWO YEARS SO IT WOULD NOT IT WOULD BE IT WOULD NOT CONTRADICT THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL POLICY RESULT IN A LONG TERM LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL LAND IN SPECIFIC CASE OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ALREADY A NON INDUSTRIAL USE BUT SHOULD YOU AN APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER PROPERTY IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR A TEMPORARY BASIS WHEN RESULT OF A NET LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY IN THE LONG TERM AND IT WOULDN'T EXPAND THE AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE THIS TYPE OF FACILITY IS ALLOWED ON A PERMANENT BASIS ONLY ON AN INTERIM BASIS. AND AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY WOULD RETAIN THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS ON A CASE BY CASE, ESTABLISH ROLLOVER CONDITIONS, APPROVE OR DENY EACH ONE WOULD NOT ESTABLISH KIND OF NEW HOURS OF RIGHT AREAS WHERE THIS OF FACILITY IS ALLOWED ON. WE BELIEVE THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE HIGH LEVEL VALUES THE GOALS ESTABLISHED IN THE BLOOMINGTON PLAN AS WELL AS THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN STAFF NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SOME OF THOSE VALUES THAT WE SHARE INCLUDE PLACING A HIGH VALUE ON EQUITY, MAKING SURE ALL PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME, SAFE AND SUPPORTED, PROVIDING EQUAL ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY AND ADDRESSING ISSUES OF INJUSTICE FOR HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES IN BLOOMINGTON. AS I SAID, THOSE ARE ALL VALUES THE COUNTY SHARES AND THAT WE FEEL ARE ENACTED THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT BY PROVIDING EQUAL ACCESS TO TEMPORARY SHELTER FOR FAMILIES EXPERIENCING WHO OFTEN COME FROM THE MOST MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. SO WITH THAT WE ARE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, MY COLLEAGUE MR. DAVID HEWITT WHO'S THE COUNTY'S DIRECTOR OF HOUSING STABILITY UP TO SPEAK TO THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT. SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR ROHMAN COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU'VE HEARD, MY NAME'S DAVID HEWITT. I'M THE DIRECTOR HOUSING STABILITY AND OF KING COUNTY AND I LEAD OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE HOMELESSNESS BRIEF AND NON-RECURRING. IF I MAY TAKE A SECOND TO SET THIS EFFORT IN THOSE BROADER CONTEXTS WHEN WE TALK MAKING HOMELESSNESS RARE, OUR JOB IS TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS WHEREVER POSSIBLE. EXAMPLES OF WHICH INCLUDE WE HAVE BEEN ALLOCATING THE RECENTLY DEVELOPED SALES TAX TO FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. A HOUSING COURT FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY LOW INCOME FAMILIES TO RECEIVE LEGAL REPRESENTATION AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WHEN FACING EVICTION TO HELP THEM STAY IN THEIR HOMES WHENEVER THEY CAN. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE RECENTLY LAUNCHED SCHOOLS THE HOUSING PROGRAM WORKING WITH BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS THROUGH WHICH WE HAVE SUPPORT SERVICES AND, RENTAL ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE FOR FAMILIES IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AGAIN WITH THE GOAL OF KEEPING IN THEIR HOME. FOR THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR FALL HOMELESSNESS, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE HOMELESSNESS BRIEF. WE ARE THE LARGEST FUNDER OF HOMELESS SHELTERS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA INCLUDING THE STATE MINNESOTA. BUT OUR ACTUAL FOCUS IN THIS AREA IS TO HELP FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS EXIT HOMELESSNESS, EXIT SHELTER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE PERMANENT HOUSING. SO WHILE WE DO HAVE ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT SOME 2400 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN SHELTER IN OUR COMMUNITY WE ALSO SAW MORE THAN 2000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR EXIT HOMELESSNESS TO PERMANENT HOUSING THROUGH OUR EFFORTS AND THOSE OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS. AND WE'RE MAKING HOMELESSNESS NONRECURRING. WE LEVERAGE THAN $100 MILLION EACH YEAR TOWARDS SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF PERMANENT HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR MORE THAN 15,000 HENNEPIN COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE EXITED HOMELESSNESS OR OTHER CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES AND NOW NEED THOSE SUPPORTS ONGOING TO THRIVE THAT HOUSING. WITH REGARDS TO FAMILY HOMELESSNESS HENNEPIN COUNTY IS UNIQUE IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. INDEED, I BELIEVE WE ARE ONE OF A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITIES PERHAPS FOUR IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY THAT AS A MATTER OF POLICY SAYS WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHILDREN TO SLEEP OUTSIDE OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A SHELTER OR POLICY FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN. IT'S BEEN IN PLACE AS A MATTER OF COUNTY BOARD DIRECTION SINCE 2005. WHAT THIS MEANS IN PRACTICE IS THAT WHEN FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN WOULD SLEEP AND SHELTER CAPACITY IS UNAVAILABLE, WE AS HENNEPIN COUNTY WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO EXPAND CAPACITY ACCOMMODATE THOSE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN DURING THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS FOR THE EXTENT OF THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS DURING THE PANDEMIC. WE ACTUALLY HAD HISTORIC LOW NUMBERS OF FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN SEEKING SHELTER. OUR STANDARD YEAR ROUND CAPACITY IN MINNEAPOLIS IS 150 ROOMS ACROSS PEOPLE SERVING PEOPLE AND HAVEN HOUSING AND AT TIMES DURING THE PANDEMIC WE WERE AT 5060 FAMILIES. THOSE SHELTERS WERE LARGELY EMPTY. WE THAT TO THE EVICTION MORATORIUM AND THE AVAILABILITY FEDERAL EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE DURING THAT PERIOD. WE ARE ABLE TO ATTRIBUTE IT TO THOSE MEASURES BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY WENT AWAY IN EARLY 2022 WE SAW A SURGE IN DEMAND FOR FAMILY SHELTER THAT JUST AS EVICTIONS WE EXPECTED A SPIKE. IN ACTUAL FACT WHAT WE SAW IS A SWELL THAT KEPT GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE END OF LAST. WE HAVE SEEN CONTINUAL HIGH DEMAND FROM FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN NEEDING SHELTER EVER SINCE EARLY 2020 TO BRING TO THE POINT THAT AT THE END OF LAST YEAR WE WERE SUPPORTING 491 PRIVATE ROOMS 410% OF OUR NORMAL YEAR END CAPACITY OF WHICH 173 ARE IN THE SITE THAT WE ARE BY EXTENSION ACKNOWLEDGING THE TWO PHASE PROCESS, DISCUSSING TODAY. TURNING TO THAT SITE, I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE THIS HISTORY OF OF WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BLOOMINGTON CITY AND BLOOMINGTON POLICE BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS THROUGH THESE YEARS. I WILL SAY THAT AS A PROVIDER THESE SITES AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY VARIOUS ENTITIES OVER THE YEARS WE ARE DIFFERENT TO OTHER ARRANGEMENTS THAT WE KNOW HAPPENED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND I WANT TO CALL OUT A FEW OF THE FEATURES AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR SECURITY DIVISION MANAGER CONTRACTED PARTNERS AND OTHERS OVER THE OPERATIONS HERE FOR MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY. BUT WITHIN HENNEPIN OPERATIONS WE DO PROVIDE 24 SEVEN SECURITY. WE DO MANAGE THROUGH THAT SECURITY CAMERAS OUTSIDE. WE DO HAVE IN ADDITION TO SECURITY ON SITE STAFF TO SUPPORT THE FAMILIES WITH THEIR BASIC NEEDS WHILE THEY ARE IN THE SHELTER SYSTEM AND TO HELP THEM GET SERVICES AND BENEFITS. WE DO PROVIDE THREE MEALS A DAY PLUS SNACKS AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS AND OTHER BASIC NEEDS . WE DO HAVE A CODE OF CONDUCT. IT IS AN EXPECTATION THAT FAMILIES PARTICIPATING IN OUR PROGRAMS ALSO HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT CODE OF CONDUCT IS PROVIDED IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. WE DO PROACTIVELY ENGAGE THE POLICE AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT AND WE DO CONTINUALLY LOOK TO IMPROVE THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OTHER IMPACTED GOVERNMENT ENTITIES SUCH AS THIS CASE BLOOMINGTON SCHOOLS. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST GOING BACK TO A POINT I MADE EARLIER, WE FOCUS ON HELPING FAMILIES EXIT THESE SITUATIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. IS NOT OUR INTENT THAT ANY FAMILY LIVE IN A HOMELESS SETTING FOR LONGER THAN NECESSARY. YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT THE INTENT WITH THIS PROJECT OVERALL IS THAT IT BE TEMPORARY. OUR GOAL FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY NEEDS TO USE A SHELTER WHETHER IT BE HERE OR ELSEWHERE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY IS THAT USE IS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE. IN THE LAST 30 DAYS 75 FAMILIES HAVE EXITED HOMELESS SHELTERS TO OTHER DESTINATIONS THROUGH OUR EFFORTS AND I KNOW IN THE MATERIALS YOU SAW LETTERS PROVIDED BY THREE OF OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS WHO DO RAPID REHOUSING WORK. WHAT THAT MEANS IS FOR FAMILIES IN SHELTER THEY ASSIST THEM IN IDENTIFYING PRIVATE RENTED MARKET PROPERTIES AND APPLYING FOR THEM AND COVERING THE INITIAL COSTS AND THEY PROVIDE PARTIAL RENT SUBSIDIES FOR A PERIOD TO HELP THEM GET STABILIZED THERE. AND ENTITIES HAVE BEEN HELPING HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES IN THE LAST YEAR MOVE ON SHELTER SETTINGS TO PERMANENT HOUSING. SO THIS IS REALLY VIEWED BY US AS TEMPORARY CRISIS STOP AGAIN TO STOP CHILDREN SLEEPING WHILE WE HELP FAMILIES CONNECT ONWARDS WITH REGARD TO THE REQUEST HERE TODAY IS SADLY DESPITE THOSE EFFORTS THE DEMAND IS CONTINUING. I WON'T GO INTO HERE BUT WE HAVE SEEN SOME SIGNS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR OF EVICTION WAVE RECEDING. WE HAVE SEEN OUR EFFORTS THERE HELPING A LOT MORE VOTES THAN THE HOUSING THEY WOULD HAVE DONE OTHERWISE. WE SOME REASONS OF POSITIVITY NOT LEAST THAT WE INVESTED AN EXTRA $2 MILLION IN EXTRA RAPID REHOUSING LAST YEAR IN RESPONSE TO THIS CRISIS AND MY TEAM HIRED UP AN ADDITIONAL 12 SOCIAL WORKERS TO DO NOTHING THAT HOUSING FOCUS CASE MANAGEMENT WITH FAMILIES IN THE SHELTER SYSTEM TO HELP THEM GET OUT. SO WE ARE TRYING TO PULL ALL OF THOSE KIND OF RATHER BRIEF NONRECURRING LEVERS TO GET US OUT OF THIS CRISIS. BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD, WE ARE SEEKING THIS TWO YEAR EXTENSION AS WE TRY TO NAVIGATE AND MAKE SURE THAT CHILDREN SLEEP OUTSIDE DURING IT. AND I THINK THAT WAS EVERYTHING THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY THAT OBVIOUSLY CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND LIKE I SAY WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE TEAM HERE THAT CAN CHIP IN WITH DETAILS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER GOLDMAN THANK YOU CHAIR. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS THE AVERAGE STAY FOR A FAMILY AT A PROPERTY LIKE THIS CASTING A GLANCE TRADITIONALLY THE SENIOR DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATOR OF WELL-BEING DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE? GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP THIS YEAR. THANKS SO MUCH FOR HEARING US TODAY. IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY BROAD SPECTRUM. AN AVERAGE WOULD BE HARD AND AN ACTUALLY INACCURATE AN AVERAGE WOULD BE SOMETHING AROUND EIGHT MONTHS. THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT STAY AND RESOLVED WITHIN SEVERAL WEEKS AND THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT STAY SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER . BUT THAT'S ABOUT. THAT'S THE MEAN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COOKED IN THE MR. CHAIR. MR. HEWITT, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK YOU'RE THE RIGHT PERSON ASK YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME SECURITY MEASURES CODE OF CONDUCT JUST SO I'M CLEAR BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THE TOTAL HISTORY OF THIS OFFICE HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE YOU ALL TOOK OVER THE PROPERTY OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING MOVING FORWARD? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. WE DO HAVE OUR SECURITY DIVISION MANAGER GIVE MORE DETAILS BUT THE CODE OF CONDUCT HAS BEEN IN PLACE THROUGHOUT AND WAS ESTABLISHED DURING THE PANDEMIC PERIOD WHEN WE WERE SERVING A DIFFERENT POPULATION OF AS YOU HEARD, MEDICALLY FRAGILE SINGLE ADULTS. KNOW THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE THROUGHOUT IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY AS PART OUR WEEKLY CHECK INS WITH WITH OUR GUESTS AS WELL FOLLOW UP QUESTION MAYBE I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT. SO THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE YOUR POPULATION AT THIS FACILITY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED INTO AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THIS HOTEL, IT WAS PART OF A SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT EFFORT WHICH WAS A DIFFERENT CRISIS. WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE AGED 60 AND ABOVE. INDEED I REMEMBER THE BEFORE THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY REALIZING IT WAS ABOUT 101 THAT NIGHT. WHO WERE PEOPLE IN CONGREGATE SHELTER WHO WERE AGED 60 AND ABOVE AND THEREFORE AS WE WERE LEARNING IN THE KIND OF EMERGING PANDEMIC WERE AT THE HIGHEST MEDICAL RISK, VERY SERIOUS MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS. SO WE HAD POTENTIALLY A VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY HIGH RISK FROM A VERY CONTAGIOUS NEW PANDEMIC IN AN ENCLOSED CONGREGATE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY WERE SHARING SPACE WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. SO THE RISK OF TRANSMISSION WAS VERY HIGH AND THE RISK TO THEM IF TRANSMISSION OCCURRED WAS VERY HIGH. SO IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WE WE WORKED WITH THIS SCIENCE AND HOTEL SITES ACROSS THE COUNTY TO MOVE EVERYBODY THAT WAS AGE 60 AND ABOVE OR WHO HAD THE OTHER MEDICAL CONDITIONS. THE CDC WARNED ABOUT OUT OF CONGREGATE SETTINGS AND INTO INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE ROOMS TO BRING THEIR LEVEL OF RISK DOWN. WE BELIEVE MEASURES SAVED LIVES AS YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ME SAY ABOUT KIND OF THIS IS AN AREA TEN FOR ANYONE LONG TERM. ONCE VACCINATION WAS WIDELY AVAILABLE DURING THE PANDEMIC WE BROUGHT IN A SIMILAR MODEL SOCIAL WORKERS DOING HOUSING FOCUSED CASE MANAGEMENT TO HELP PEOPLE EXIT THIS SITE AND OTHERS TO PERMANENT HOUSING. AND WE WERE ABLE TO BRING THE NUMBERS AND ACTUALLY EXIT THE HOTEL ALTOGETHER AND EXIT HOTELS ALTOGETHER FOR THAT PURPOSE AND ONE CRISIS FOLLOWING ANOTHER AS HAS BEEN THE CASE THE LAST FEW YEARS. AS I WAS SAYING, AS WE KIND OF CAME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC HEALTH CRISIS, WE THEN ENTERED INTO THIS NEW CRISIS WITH THE EVICTION MORATORIUM ENDING AND EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE ENDING WHERE IT WAS NO LONGER THOSE OLDER SINGLE ADULTS WITH THE HIGH MEDICAL RISKS THAT THAT WE NEEDED TO ADAPT OUR SYSTEM FOR BUT RATHER A SURGE IN DEMAND FROM FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN WHOM WE HAD NO OTHER OPTION. SO WE HAVE OF COURSE MADE ADAPTATIONS AROUND THINGS LIKE CODE OF CONDUCT AND SERVICE MODELS TO CATER FOR A DIFFERENT POPULATION. BUT THAT IS WHO WE ARE SERVING NOW AND WHO WE HAVE BEEN SERVING IN THIS SITE FOR THE LAST ALMOST TWO YEA. YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE FACTORS THAT ARE LEADING. I AM TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND. NOBODY CAN PREDICT WHEN WHEN THE NUMBERS WILL STAY ELEVATED OR, RETURN TO SOMEWHAT HISTORICAL NORMS. AND YOU INDICATED SOME FACTORS AROUND EVICTION MORATORIUM AND WHATNOT. DO THE SERVICES YOU PROVIDE AT THIS FACILITY OR OTHER FACILITIES? ARE THOSE ALSO TO PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY MAYBE RECENT ARRIVALS WHO'VE BEEN RELOCATED WILLINGLY OR UNWILLINGLY BY STATE GOVERNMENT? I THANK YOU CHAIR ROOM AND FIRE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE QUESTION. THE FIRST THING THAT I WILL SAY ABOUT OUR FAMILY HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM IS AND I BRING IT BACK TO THAT PRINCIPLE OF NO CHILD SLEEPING OUTSIDE WE APPLY THAT POLICY IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT BRINGS THAT FAMILY WITH CHILDREN TO THAT POINT OF NEEDING SHELTER . SO IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THEY HAVE ARRIVED FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, WE APPLY THAT POLICY THAT NO CHILD SLEEPS OUTSIDE. WE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF BASIC SET OF SERVICES OF COURSE MEALS, BASIC NEEDS AND SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHILE IN SHELTER AND OUR GOAL FOR ALL FAMILIES IS TO HELP THEM MOVE ON INTO HOUSING. I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR TO SAY THAT WE HAVE SOME MORE COMPLICATED CASES THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING HOW TO DEVELOP SERVICE MODELS AROUND IT. PART OF THE REASON WE'VE BEEN STANDING UP EXTRA STAFFING CAPACITY AND YOU HAD CHRIS THACHER TALKED TO SOME OF THOSE KIND OF WE SOME VERY SHORT SLEEVES AND SOME LONGEST DAYS AND THAT DEPENDS VERY ON THE BARRIERS THAT FAMILIES FACE. SO WE ARE CONTINUALLY BUILDING OUR SERVICE MODEL TO MEET NEEDS INCLUDING THOSE MORE CHALLENGING CASES AND INCLUDING CASES OF FOLKS COMING FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES . BUT IT IS NOT A PREREQUISITE TO USE OUR SERVICES OR TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE FULL SUITE OF SERVICES. PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN BACKGROUND IF THAT MAKES SENSE. NO, THAT'S FINE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT VARIABLE FACTORS MAY BE LEADING TO THE INCREASE IN DEMAND LEADS TO THIS KIND OF A REQUEST. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CURRIE THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST I GUESS THE CITY WASN'T I THINK TOTALLY CLEAR DIDN'T HAVE A TOTALLY CLEAR PERSPECTIVE AS TO HOW LONG YOU WOULD BE ABLE CONTINUE TO OPERATE WITHOUT THIS INTERIM USE PERMIT. HOW LONG DOES YOUR CURRENT LEASE RUN FOR? AND I GUESS DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPECTATIONS AS TO HOW YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OPERATE IF THIS WAS NOT APPROVED CURRENTLY? SORRY. EXCUSE ME COMMISSIONER. THE COMMISSIONERS I'M MARGO GAVIN. I'M THE FACILITY'S DIRECTOR FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY AND OUR CURRENT LEASE RUNS THROUGH THE SUMMER WITH AN OPTION FOR THE TWO YEAR RENEWAL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOLDSON THANK YOU ,CHAIR. I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS MAYBE FOR STAFF BUT YOU CAN ALSO MAYBE CHIME IN . SO PART OF THE PROPERTY TODAY THERE IS A RESTAURANT. SO I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE IS WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THAT RESTAURANT AS WELL AS THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS REALLY AROUND THAT FOOD PREPARATION THAT IS BEING FOR THE RESIDENTS. IS THAT THROUGH THE RESTAURANT OR IS THAT DONE OFF? SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OR THAT THE ATTACHED RESTAURANT ON THE PROPERTY AND WHAT WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD ASK TRISH THACHER AGAIN TO SPEAK TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. CURRENTLY IT'S THE RESTAURANT IS OPERATING IT'S SERVING AS A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT. ANYBODY CAN COME IN FROM THE COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION THEY ARE ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROVIDING OUR THREE MEALS PER DAY SO THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A BROADER UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION THROUGH WHICH THEY'RE ABLE TO BRING IN THE RESOURCES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE MEALS FOR OVER 500 PEOPLE JUST YOU KNOW, KIDS AND ADULTS ADDED TOGETHER. BUT THAT RESTAURANT HAS BEEN FULLY AND I BELIEVE IT'S THEIR INTENT TO CONTINUE TO BE FULLY FUNCTIONING. AND AGAIN, THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROVIDING THE MEALS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM IN THE FALL. QUESTION IS THEY DINING IN THE RESTAURANT AS WELL OR THEY'RE DINING IN A SEPARATE LOCATION? SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING OUR SERVICES DO NOT DINE IN THE RESTAURANT AND THE RESTAURANT OPERATES SEPARATELY HAS THOSE EXTERIOR ENTRANCES. THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE SERVING EITHER SOME CHOOSE TO EAT IN THEIR ROOMS BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME LARGER DINING AREAS WHERE THEY MIGHT EAT TOGETHER MORE SOCIALLY BUT NOT IN THE RESTAURANT. THANK YOU, MR. CURRY. THANK YOU. SURE SIR. I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR THE POINT BUT. SO IF THE LEASE GOES THROUGH THIS SUMMER AND THERE'S AN EXTENSION AVAILABLE FOR TWO YEARS, PRESUMABLY YOU HAVE LEGAL RIGHTS TO THE SPACE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO IS THERE A REASON THAT INTERIM PERMIT IS BEING REQUESTED TODAY? WHAT IS THAT REASON? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER IT IS . THE EXTENSION IS DEPENDENT ON APPROVAL FROM THE CITY AS STAFF MENTIONED. WE'RE HERE TO TRY AND GET INTO COMPLIANCE SO THAT WE'RE GOOD . FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT THIS WOULD HAVE THAT THE CODE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE SO WE WOULD BE ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON CHANGING THE CODE TO ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THEIR APRIL 1ST MEETING. IF IT IS THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL FOR AN INTERIM USE PERMIT WHICH WOULD PROBABLY COME SOMETIME I WOULD GUESS IN APRIL OR MAY AND THEN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WHICH WAS THE COUNCIL. SO IT WOULD. THIS IS THIS IS NOT THEM REQUESTING AN INTERIM PERMIT TODAY. IT'S JUST ABOUT DO WE AS A PLANNING THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INTERIM USE? OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND SO WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM GO AHEAD AND COME UP? THEY ASK THAT YOU REGISTER NAME AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION THAT'S REQUESTED ON THE SIGN IN SHEET AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. STEVE JK PROPERTIES 1900 WEST AND 90TH STREET BASICALLY KITTY CORNER FROM THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS WELL RAISED A FAMILY HERE OF FOUR KIDS AND AND DONE GOOD WORK THROUGH THE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERING IN SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, WHATNOT. SO I AM A LITTLE BIT SYMPATHETIC FOR THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE DEALT WITH RIGHT NOW FOR HOMELESSNESS FOR FAMILIES. BUT AS A PROPERTY OWNER I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. ONE CONCERN THAT I DO HAVE MAYBE FOUR QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT DID POP UP ON THE SCREEN UP THERE FOR SECURITY AND GARBAGE TRASH. WELL-BEING OF THE FACILITY ARE THOSE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW OR ARE THEY GOING TO CHANGE? RIGHT NOW THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO AND THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY AND WE'LL MAKE OUR NOTES AND I'M KIND OF ADDRESSING THEM BUT YEAH THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AGAIN IT SHOULD MAKE SOME NOTES AND IF WE THEN MAY FOLLOW UP AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BASICALLY RIGHT NOW THE AREA ANY OF YOU ARE GOING OFF TO DRIVE BY TONIGHT AFTER THE MEETING AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT EMPTY ALCOHOL PACKAGING BOTTLES CANS TRASH THROUGHOUT THE DEBRIS OFF THE FRONTAGE ROAD FROM THE SHELTER PLASTIC T-SHIRT BAGS FULL OF STUFF STUFFED OUT OF THE PROPERTY AN EYESORE TO ME. SO IF THAT'S IF NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE FOR SECURE FOR FOR GARBAGE HANDLING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH PANDEMIC IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE BUT TO THE CITY BASICALLY WORKS STORAGE FACILITY BUILDING THERE THERE'S A RETAINING WALL THE HIGH AREA THERE AND I'VE HAD TO CALL POLICE NON-EMERGENCY A COUPLE OF TIMES HEY THERE'S PEOPLE CAMPING OUT HANGING OUT ON THAT PROPERTY. WHERE DO THEY COME FROM? DON'T KNOW. PLEASE HAVE THEM REMOVED THAT'S YOU KNOW ACTUALLY CITY PROPERTY SO IF THEY GET FALL OFF FILL UP THAT RETAINING GOT HURT DUE TO A CITY PROBLEM BUT I'M ADJOINING PROPERTY I'VE A BUSINESS THAT'S THERE RUNNING. WE DO NEED THEM TO BE VACATED SO THAT PROBLEM THERE IS STILL PEOPLE WANDERING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA SO THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED AS WELL. HOW WE GOING TO MAINTAIN KIDS, ADULTS WHATNOT FROM MIGRATING INTO AN INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT THEY HAVE REALLY NO BUSINESS AND BEING IN ? I MEAN THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS NO PARKS, THERE'S NO SCHOOLS, THERE'S VERY FEW RESOURCES FOR GROCERY STORES, CONVENIENCE STORES, WHATNOT IN THIS AREA . THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I KIND OF GO BACK TO IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A ROUND HOLE TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN AND. I REALLY FEEL BAD THAT WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM HOMELESSNESS BUT THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY OR INDUSTRIAL AREA AND I DON'T FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE CHANGING CITY CODE JUST WHEN A PROBLEM POPS UP TO MAKE IT FIT THAT AREA WHICH WAS THE NEXT BUSINESS OR GOVERNMENT TO COME IN AND SAY HEY WE WANT TO DO THIS TO THIS PROPERTY CHANGE CITY CODE WITH THE CITY PLANNERS DEVELOP THIS FOR A REASON AND WE HAVE THESE FOR A REASON SO THOSE ARE MY POINTS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU. GO AHEAD JUST WITH A COMMENT IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM IN THE CHAMBERS ? YEAH. YES. LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE ONE ONLINE CHAIR ROHMAN. I WILL UNMUTE EMMA FRENCH IN CASE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM YOU UNMUTED NOW? HI THIS IS MO FRENCH THE ACTUAL VP OF OPERATIONS FOR THE HOTEL AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY IN THE SENSE THAT WE'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IN SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE OF NI IN 2016 WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN MARCH OF 2020 WE WERE ASKED TO ASSIST TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND THROUGH TRULY A LOT OF THOUGHT AND PROCESS WE THAT DECISION TO DO SO WITH THOSE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE OF THE SECURITY OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THE OPERATIONS WE HAVE NEVER LEFT THE SITE. WE HAVE NEVER TURNED IT OVER TO ANYBODY OUR STAFF CONTINUES TO BE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONS HENNEPIN COUNTY AND SECURITY AND EVEN OUR FIRST EFFORTS WERE OF COURSE TO HELP SENIORS AND. THE SUCCESSFUL NUMBERS THAT WE HAD ARE JUST ASTONISHING OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SAVED LIVES FOR THE PARTNERSHIP DID A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO THEN HELP WITH CHILDREN AND I THINK THAT'S JUST A POPULATION THAT YOU CAN'T TURN AWAY. AND SO LOOKING AT WHAT DONE OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS WITH FAMILIES AND THE FAMILIES THAT WE CONTINUE TO EVERY DAY HERE I GOT A LETTER TODAY MY CHILD GOT A LETTER WE WORKED. THERE'S NO ONE STANDING IN LINE. THIS IS NOT SOME PLACE PEOPLE KNOCK ON THE DOOR SOMEWHAT LIKE OTHER RESOURCES OF TEMPORARY ACCOMMODATIONS AND HOUSING AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. THOSE CODE OF CONDUCT STIPULATIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE MUCH MORE THAN WE EVER HAD WHEN WE OPERATED AS A HOTEL. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS OF ALCOHOL ,DRUGS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY COME IN ONE ENTRANCE. IT'S SECURITY TRACK. THERE'S NO OUTSIDE GUESTS THAT ARE ALLOWED. JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HAVE A SINCERE COMMITMENT TO HELPING HENNEPIN COUNTY AND HELPING BLOOMINGTON TO BE A ROLE MODEL IN ASSISTING THE END HOMELESSNESS AND FOR SURE TO STAND BACK THERE AND SAY THAT WE'VE ASSISTED CHILDREN. WHEN THE SCHOOL BUSSES CAME AND WHEN THEY COME AND WHEN YOU SEE THE KIDS GET OUT I JUST THOSE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL SOMETIMES AND NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE IS THE DAY THEY MOVE OUT AND THEY'RE GOING TO A PERMANENT HOME AND WE PROVIDE THEM WITH AND TOWELS AND A NEW HOME GIFT FOR THEM I THINK WE JUST HAVE STOOD BACK AND SAID OF COURSE THERE'S SO MANY OTHER OPTIONS AND OF COURSE THE CITY WE UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT WE DO A FRANCHISE LICENSE AND WE PAY LICENSING FEES EVERY TO MAINTAIN OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT. IT ALSO PROVIDES THAT WE UPHOLD THE STANDARD OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE ROOM CONDITIONS THE CITY CODES WITH THE MEALS WITH THE HOUSING, WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AND WE'RE WE'RE THERE WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS AND WE ARE TELLING YOU THAT OUR SUCCESS STORIES WAY OUTNUMBER OUR SEVERAL THINGS AND WE DO HAVE MAINTENANCE STAFF SITE AND I HEAR WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID AND I MEAN WILL ADDRESS THOSE THINGS AND WE CAN WE CAN CHANGE SOME OF THESE THINGS TO MAKE THIS ACCOMMODATING TO WHAT THE NEEDS TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL I THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW AS AN OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AND AS AN OPERATOR OF THIS WE'VE DONE GREAT THINGS AND WE'RE IN A A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH BLOOMINGTON AND WITH WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY IN CHANGING HOW PEOPLE HELP OTHER PEOPLE. SO I JUST I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE WILL DO WHATEVER IT BUT WE WE DIDN'T TAKE THIS ON WITHOUT ANY THOUGHT THE DAY ONE SECURITY WAS THERE YOU KNOW THE OPERATIONS WE NEVER WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALWAYS BE PART OF THIS. THANK TO ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED MIKE SACKETT THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ALL RIGHT DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE START I WOULD STILL FOR THE BODY I THINK WE TALKED IN THIS BODY ABOUT KIND OF THE THE PYRAMID OF AUTHORITY OR THE TRIANGLE OF AUTHORITY WHERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE ACT IN WAYS THAT ARE QUASI JUDICIAL AND THEN THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE ACT THAT ARE LEGISLATIVE AND I THINK THIS IS A TIME THAT IS MORE IN THE LEGISLATIVE REALM AND IT'S PERHAPS MORE DISCRETION IN THE JUDICIAL REALM. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES CHAIRMAN? THAT'S VERY ACCURATE. TONIGHT YOU HAVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF DISCRETION. YOU ARE ACTING IN LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY AS OPPOSED TO A QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY. THINGS YOU WOULD LOOK AT WOULD BE GUIDANCE THE CONFERENCE PLAN, THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN AND JUST LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, ISSUES OF SAFETY AND HOUSING SAFETY, SECURITY AND KIND OF GENERAL HEALTH SAFETY ISSUES. THANK YOU. SO THAT WAS GOOD FOR US TO HAVE THAT AND ALSO FOR ANYONE WATCHING OR LISTENING TO KNOW WHAT OUR ROLE IS IN THIS CASE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COOKED IN THE MIXTURE OF THE FOLLOW QUESTION TO HER MR. MACGREGOR JUST TALKED ABOUT I MEAN HOW MUCH CAN WE FACTOR IN THE POTENTIALLY APPLICATION TO THIS APPLICATION OR ARE THEY COMPLETELY SEPARATE WE TO ASSUME WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS FUTURE APPLICATION OR IS IT GERMANE TO THIS ONE TERM AND COMMISSIONER COOK THEN I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS THE IF THE SECOND APPLICATION WERE TO COME WOULD BE A QUASI JUDICIAL ACTION YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THAT EVENT. REALLY TONIGHT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS USE IS APPROPRIATE AN INTERIM USE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS WITH AN EYE TO DISTRICT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CURRY. APOLOGIES BUT I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE CITY. SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY ASK IS IS THERE HAVE THERE BEEN ANY IS THERE A FREQUENCY OF CALLS INTO THE POLICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT OR ANYTHING RELATING TO THIS USE CURRENTLY ? SURE. GERALMENTE COMMISSIONER WE REACHED OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TRY AND FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION ON COMPLAINTS OR POLICE CALLS. THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT IS TRACKED AND YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY AS OF AN INTERVIEW PERMIT APPLICATION WE WOULD DO MUCH MORE ROBUST ANALYSIS OF OF THOSE SORTS OF CONCERNS . WELL I DON'T USUALLY HAVE A FIRST PANELIST BUT I HAVE SOME NOTES SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING SITUATION AND UNLIKE IT'S I'M KIND I PROBABLY WILL CONTRADICT MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW I THINK ABOUT WHEN WE HAD THE SCHOOLS WERE IN FRONT OF US AND WE WERE THEY WERE THE TOPIC OF THE STADIUMS WAS GIVEN TO US AND PEOPLE WERE VERY PASSIONATE OR OPPOSED TO THAT. BUT IN THAT CASE OUR JOB WAS TO LOOK DOES THIS OR DOESN'T THIS MEET THE STANDARD? HERE'S SITUATION WHERE SOMETHING IS IN FRONT OF US THAT THE LIST IS A LITTLE BIT TO COMMISSIONER COOKSON'S POINT THE THE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IS NOT ACTUALLY THE OF THE QUESTION TONIGHT BUT IT IS LIKELY TO BE A SUBJECT SUBSEQUENT TOPIC AND SO I THINK THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S THE ISSUE OF THE SITUATION BUT THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE THE BIGGER QUESTION ABOUT LAND USE AND THAT'S WHERE FOR ME THIS IS A VERY CHALLENGING THING FOR ME TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONER SORRY SENIOR PLANNER SAID SCENARIO ACCURATELY TALKED ABOUT THE COMP PLAN I THINK I'M OLD AND I'M THE ONLY ONE LEFT WHO WORKED ON THAT COMP BUT YOU KNOW HE SAID THAT THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK TO AND IT'S PRETTY EXPLICIT IN SECTION 4.2 ABOUT HOUSING BUT IT'S ALSO PRETTY EXPLICIT BEFORE THAT IN SECTION TWO POINT TO WHERE WE TALK ABOUT LAND USE AND REDEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND WE'RE VERY CLEAR IN THAT ABOUT THAT WE PRESERVE INDUSTRIAL SITES WITH ACCESS TO HIGHWAY AND FREIGHT AND RAIL SYSTEMS AND INDUSTRIAL USES BUT INDUSTRIAL SITES AND SO FOR ME THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BEARS PERHAPS EQUAL EQUAL WEIGHT IN THERE AND I ALSO THINK ABOUT OUR OUR TRACK RECORD IN MY TIME FIVE AND A HALF YEARS ON THIS COMMISSION AND MANY OF YOU HAVE SAT HERE WITH ME THROUGH THESE MEETINGS SOME INTERIM USES ARE HARDEST TO DISLODGE THAN OTHERS. WE HAVE HAD INTERIM STAFF MENTIONED THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR DECADES. AND AGAIN WHILE THE SPECIFIC THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGE THAT OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE COUNTY ARE WORKING VERY HARD SOLVE IS NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS QUESTION. I HAVE TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ARE WE LIKELY TO JUST DISLODGE THAT IN TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS WITH WHEN WE ALLOW THIS TYPE AN INTERIM USE? AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE SPECIFIC QUESTION WE'RE ASKED ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT A LAND USE CHANGE MIGHT BE. THIS IS A REALLY CHALLENGING PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO SOLVE. I DON'T ENVY I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. I MEAN I'VE THIS PEN IN MY HAND HERE IS FROM OUR COLLEAGUES. THERE ARE FRIENDS OASIS FOR YOUTH WHO'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY DOING THIS KIND OF WORK FOREVER AND DOESN'T END UNFORTUNATELY. AND I THINK THE PROBLEM MADE WORSE BY AGAIN I WILL PINE A LITTLE BIT IT'S MADE WORSE PEOPLE BEYOND OUR OUR COMMUNITY WHO I THINK ARE ARE MAKING THE HOMELESS SITUATION WORSE FOR SOME OF ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW TO O COMMUNITY AND SO IT'S A BIG PROBLEM BUT I LOOK AT THIS OTHER THING HERE AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THAT KIND OF A THING AND IT'S BECAUSE ALSO PARTLY BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION WHETHER IT'S THE INDUSTRIAL USES OR THE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FREEWAY, IT'S ONE THING IF I CHOOSE TO STAY THERE FOR A NIGHT OR TWO NIGHTS IN A HOTEL AND BE SUBJECT TO WHATEVER THOSE THOSE DANGEROUS THINGS ARE AROUND THERE, WHETHER IT'S FREEWAY EXHAUST OR INDUSTRIAL SMELLS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT THAT AREA IT'S ANOTHER THING FOR SOMEONE TO BE THERE FOR A MONTH, THREE MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS A YEAR AND I GUESS I, I STRUGGLE WITH THAT BEING COMPATIBLE. SO THOSE ARE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS AND VERY HARD BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I ONE THOUGHT ON THE SITUATION AND HOW TO HELP WITH THAT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND I HAVE ANOTHER THOUGHT WITH THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF PERMANENT LAND USE CHANGES. COMMISSIONER GOLDSON THANK YOU CHAIR YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH FOR A THINK SO IF I HAD TO LIKE CROSS OUT SOME THINGS BUT ONE THING I THOUGHT ABOUT IS I ASSUMED BACK IN 2019 WE AS A CITY AS A CHANGED THE LAND USE TO MEAN LAND USE ISN'T THE RIGHT WORD BUT WE MADE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING IN TOO DISTRICT AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE I ASSUME FOR A VERY FOR VARIOUS REASONS LIKE SAFETY TRANSPORTATION SO I STRUGGLING WITH A DECISION WAS MADE IN 2019 TO MAKE THIS LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING AND NOW WE'RE IN 2024 AND LOOKING AT MAKING IT AN USE WHICH THEN IT CAN'T BE CONVERTED BACK. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. I HAVE I ALSO AGREE THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEBODY AT A FACILITY OR AT A HOTEL FOR A NIGHT AND THEY'RE MOST LIKELY THERE TO SERVICE THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, THE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE AREA THAT'S ONE THING. BUT OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME THE EXPOSURE, THE CHEMICALS, THE MANUFACTURING PROCESSES, THE TRANSPORTATION VEHICLES COME AND GO, THE TRAFFIC ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS LOCATION IS NOT IN I TOO AND JUST GENERAL WHERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE THE 60 SOME PROPERTIES THERE ARE NO AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS IN THAT LOCATION IF THERE ARE RESIDENTS SO THE THE LACK OF AMENITIES THE LACK OF THE DISPARITY IN SAFETY JUST BECAUSE INHERENT USE OF THAT LOCATION OR THAT I A DISTRICT IS A VERY BIG CONCERN MINE AND I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND WHERE I'VE SEEN FAMILIES WALKING BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS AND PARKING LOTS WHERE LARGE TRUCKS ARE DRIVING AND THAT CONCERNS ME JUST AN ISSUE IN GENERAL. COMMISSIONER CURRY I GUESS I'M KIND OF I MEAN I UNDERSTAND ARE BASICALLY WE BASICALLY MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE APPLICATION THAT'S PRESENTED. I JUST DON'T KNOW I GUESS THIS MUST BE THE BEST SOLUTION. I MEAN THIS THE THE APPLICANT HAS TWO YEARS LEFT MY STRUGGLE IS TO SAY OKAY I SEE TWO YEARS FOR SURE BUT THEN CREATING AN INTERIM USE THAT THEN COULD ON INDEFINITELY I DON'T I MEAN THAT THERE MUST NOT BE SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THAT SUPPORTS THE TWO YEAR EXTENSION AND THAT'S IT BECAUSE I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE IN THE ITU DISTRICT SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON A DIFFERENT SOLUTION THAN AN INTERIM AN INTERIM USE PERMIT. SO COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU CHAIR ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION. MR. CENTENARIO YOU MENTIONED IF THIS WERE TO NOT GO FORWARD THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME LEVEL OF OFF RAMPING TO THE USE AND THAT THE CITY WOULD WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING IT BE A ONE DAY SHUT THE DOOR SITUATION, LOCK THE DOOR KIND OF SITUATION. I KNOW WE DON'T PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ON WHAT THAT OFFER IN BIDDING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE BUT HAVE ANY SORT OF SENSE OF WHAT THE TIMETABLE WOULD EVEN ROUGHLY LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IN MY HEAD I'M THINKING THAT A TIMETABLE FOR AN OFF OF SUCH A BIG PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR FOUR YEARS THERE BE A TWO YEAR OFF RAMP. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS AT YOUR OWN COMMISSIONER I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCEPT OF WHAT A TIMELINE COULD BE JUST TO BE TOTALLY FRANK WITH YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. CAPTAIN THANK YOU CHAIR. THISS A TOUGH ONE. I THINK ONE OF THE TOUGHER APPLICATIONS WE'VE HAD AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION AND WE'LL JUST GET SOME THOUGHTS OUT BUT I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T KNOW YOU KNOW ,WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY BUY AND EVERYTHING OF ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE SPOKEN TONIGHT AND YES THERE ARE CHALLENGES THERE BUT I THINK EVERYONE IS WELL-INTENDED. THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE IS A PROBLEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CRISIS WE HAVE IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY. SO I REALLY THE WORK THEY DO AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THEY DO AND OTHER THING I THINK ABOUT IS A SORT OF A BIGGER I THINK IF WE'RE HONEST ABOUT OURSELF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ISN'T EXACTLY DOING OUR SHARE OF THE LOAD WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS. WE ARE THE THIRD BIGGEST CITY IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO AND MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL ARE TAKING THE BRUNT OF THE ACTION ON ALL THIS. WE REALLY AREN'T AND IT'S THERE'S PROBABLY AN ETHICAL OBLIGATION WE HAVE TO TO DO OUR PART AS THE THIRD BIGGEST CITY HERE AND SO IS THIS HOW WE DO OUR PART IS THIS HOW WE YOU KNOW, WE MAY NEVER GET THE PUBLIC IN THIS CITY TO AGREE TO HAVE A TYPICAL CLASSIC HOMELESS SHELTER, IF YOU WILL, TO BE IN ELOQUENT ABOUT IT. BUT MAYBE WE HAVE A LOT OF HOTELS AND AS THEY GET OLDER SOME OF THEM CONVERT TO HOMELESS SHELTERS AS NEW ONES ARE BUILT. MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE DO OUR PART IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TO ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS CRISIS. SO MAYBE WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE TO DO OUR PART. THE PROBLEM IS IS WE HAVE AN APPLICATION BEFORE US THAT ASKS DO WE FIND THAT CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES APPROPRIATE IN I TO IN MAN IF YOU JUST IF WE TOTALLY DISREGARDED THAT THERE'S AN EXISTING USE THERE AND YOU ASKED ME WHAT'S THE MOST INCOMPATIBLE PLACE YOU COULD HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER IT MIGHT BE IT IT LIKE IT MIGHT LITERALLY BE THE WORST ZONE WE HAVE IS OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES FOR THIS AND SO YOU KNOW I'VE SAT HERE BEFORE AND SAID WE ARE THE OF PRACTICALITY THERE'S NO ONE IN GOVERNMENT LOWER THAN US. RIGHT. WE'RE THE CLOSEST FORM OF GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT RECOGNIZE WHEN SOMETHING IS PRACTICAL, IF IT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE RULES, IF YOU WILL, AND THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND EXCEPTIONS TO THINGS WHEN WE FIND THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC BECAUSE WE'RE THE CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE AND SO IS THIS TIME WHERE WE DO THE RIGHT THING WELL IS IT THE RIGHT THING? IS THIS THE TIME WHERE WE BEND THE RULES A LITTLE BIT TO TRY TO DO RIGHT THING TO HELP OUT OUR SOCIETY OR DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PRACTICAL PRACTICALLY AS WE ARE DIRECTED TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATION BEFORE US AND IT'S HARD TO FOR ME TO SAY THAT A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY IS APPROPRIATE AND I TOO AND THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY TORN BECAUSE I WANT TO DO WHAT I THINK IS PROBABLY THE RIGHT THING WHICH IS DO OUR PART BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M REALLY ALLOWED DO THAT BY WHAT WE'RE ASKED TO DO AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TORN. COMMISSIONER GRAY THANK YOU CHAIR SORRY I JUST KEEP COME BACK TO IT. I'M CONFUSED AGAIN SO THERE IS AN EXTENSION FOR THE LEASE WHICH THAT EXTENSION IS DEPENDENT UPON APPROVAL OF THIS USE. BUT THEN WE JUST HAD THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR THE HOTEL IN SUPPORT OF THIS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS JUST CAN'T THE CANNOT CONTINUE TO OPERATE FOR TWO YEARS GOING FORWARD THAT SEEMS THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING REGARDLESS OF OUR DECISION I UNDERSTAND FROM THE MATERIALS THAT WE READ AND STAFF CAN CLARIFY IF I'M MISREAD IT IS THAT THE CURRENT USE IS NON-COMPLIANT BUT IT'S BEEN NON-COMPLIANT FOR THREE YEARS. I AGREE WITH YOU BUT IS THAT ACCURATE TO OUR OWN COMMISSIONER? IT ACCURATE? I THINK THE COUNTY IS TO BRING THIS USE INTO COMPLIANCE AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS TO THE CODE HAS TO BE CHANGED AND THEN THE INTERVIEWS PERMIT IF THIS CODE IS ADOPTED WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED TO ESSENTIALLY I MEAN THAT BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE IS REALLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT BECAUSE TECHNICALLY IT'S BEING OPERATED IN VIOLATION TO CITY CODE . RIGHT. OKAY OKAY THANK YOU. IT AGAIN IT'S THIS IS THIS IS CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE AND LOGICALLY I MEAN IT'S HARD TO SEPARATE THE TWO THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE INTENDED. I MEAN ONE RELIES ON THE OTHER BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THEY AS THE PLANNING MANAGER SAID THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS AND SO IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO EXPECT THE BODY TO NOT CONSIDER LATER QUESTION BUT THE REALITY IS THE FIRST QUESTION STANDS OUT OF ITS OWN AS ITS OWN QUESTION WHICH IS DO DO WE AS A PLANNING COMMISSION COMMISSIONER COOKED AND SAID THINK I2 IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR CONGRESS IN CONGREGATE LIVING CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS IT'S NOT JUST NOT JUST HOMELESS SUPPORT OTHER EXAMPLES OF CONGREGATE LIVING BE LIKE NURSING HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF CONGREGATE LIVING YOU KNOW THEY KNOW FOR SURE AND WE WELL I'LL LET YOU GO YEAH JEROME THAT'S CORRECT THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF CONGREGATE LIVING SHELTER WOULD BE ONE OF MANY TYPES YOU KNOW OTHER POTENTIAL TYPES KNOW TRADITIONAL GROUP HOME WOULD BE A FORM OF CONGREGATE LIVING ANY ANY LIVING ENVIRONMENT WHERE THERE'S SOME SHARING OF LIKE DINING FACILITIES, YOU KNOW LIVING AMENITIES THAT TYPE OF THING LIKE QUALIFY AS CONGREGATE LIVING AS THESE THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK WITH THE SCHOOL APPLICATION FOR INSTANCE GOT INTO A LOT OF QUESTIONS OVER STATE LAW AND CAN THIS HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF OUR DECISION WHAT HAPPENS IN THE SITUATION THAT WE YOU KNOW DID NOT APPROVE SOMETHING WOULD THE SCHOOLS BE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD WITH SOMETHING SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT IN THIS INSTANCE . THE OTHER SO. COMMISSIONER GROSSMAN WELL I WAS JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER COOKSON WAS TALKING ABOUT ON THE BROADER QUESTION ABOUT USES AND YEAH WE HAVE MORE THAN MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE OF HOTELS AND YOU KNOW I THINK THERE ARE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHERS THAT STILL ARE BEING USED BUT THERE WERE SOME OTHERS THAT WERE BEING USED DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WHICH I THINK WAS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. IT WAS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED THE SHELTER. IT WAS GOOD THE HOTELS WHO WERE NOT GETTING THE BUSINESS AND WE FIGURED OUT A WAY IN THIS BODY TO IT WITH THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT LEGALLY CONFORMING AND SO IF I IF I APPLY THAT LENS TO THIS QUESTION AND I LOOK AT ALL THROUGHOUT OUR CITY WHERE WE HAVE SOME OF OUR HOTELS MAYBE ARE MORE AGED AND MORE EITHER READY FOR REDEVELOPMENT OR CONVERSION TO HOUSING. IT'S A QUESTION OF HOTELS BUT ALMOST EVERY OTHER WOULD BE A FAR SUPERIOR PLACE AND PROBABLY EQUALLY AS ACCESSIBLE ,YOU KNOW, MASTER LEASING THAT I THINK WOULD BE A BETTER SUITABLE FOR A CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY AND SO AGAIN FOR ME IT JUST COMES BACK TO YOU KNOW, THE HOTEL IS THERE. IT'S A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING FOR USE AS A HOTEL. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT FEELS LIKE THE PLACE TO HAVE CONGREGATE LIVING. MR. AND I SO THE THING I THINK ABOUT IS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT HOUSING WE LOOK AT HOUSING ON THE FULL SPECTRUM OF EQUITABLE HOUSING AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AS A COMMISSIONER IS HAVING HOUSING THAT'S AVAILABLE THAT'S MIXED WITH ALL OF THE OTHER YOU KNOW, EMI MARKET RATE AND HAVING IT SO THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE THAT IS EQUITABLE AND BEAUTIFUL AND THEY BE PROUD THAT HAS GREEN SPACE AND THE AMENITIES THAT THEY NEED AND IT'S WALKABLE AND I LOOK AT IT YEAH AND IT'S NONE THOSE THINGS IT IS PARKING LOTS INDUSTRIAL BROWN FIELDS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THE THE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A PLACE THAT SOMEONE LIVE AND BE PROUD SO I'M THINKING ABOUT A FAMILY IS HERE IN I TOO DISTRICT DOES THAT FEEL LIKE HOME DOES THAT FEEL LIKE A SAFE SPACE DOES IT FEEL THAT THERE ARE THEY'RE NOT BEING EXPOSED TO ELEMENTS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE EXPOSED TO? I FEEL LIKE THE EYE TOO JUST IS NOT A GOOD CONDUCIVE SAFE SPACE ESPECIALLY FOR. AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENT THOUGH ON THIS IS ALL FOR GOOD YOU KNOW THE INTENT IS GOOD THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO DO MORE OF BUT LOCATION I TOO ZONE IT JUST IS NOT FOR ME IT'S NOT A PLACE THAT I THINK COULD BE PROUD TO LIVE IN REGARDLESS OF THEIR SITUATION. COMMISSIONER KIRKLAND THANKS MR.. IT'S A IT'S A CONUNDRUM, ISN'T IT, BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME OF LIKE THE FINANCIAL HAVE TO WORK OUT TOO AND YOU KNOW THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK AND IS IT A CHOICE BETWEEN NOT AND WE WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK IS IT NOTHING OR SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW BUT THAT THAT'S TRICKY BECAUSE. YEAH. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THIS THIS IS NOT A FOR PROFIT THING IT'S NOT MAKING MONEY IT NEEDS TO JUST BE IS KIND OF AS CHEAP AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT WORK AND GIVE PEOPLE SHELTER AND THAT'S NOT TO HAPPEN IN OUR NICEST NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S GOING TO BE HERE AND SO THAT'S A THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUANDARY INDEED. COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT THANK YOU CHAIR. I UM I THINK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS INTERIM USE IN OTHER ZONED DISTRICTS AND WHO WOULD WE SEE IN THIS ROOM IF WE WERE TO SAY YES, INTERIM USE IS ALLOWED IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE WHO BE NOT A FAN OF THIS AND NOT A FAN OF THIS PROJECT. AND SO THEN IT LEADS ME TO WELL WHERE DOES THIS GO THEN AND I I AM A REALLY HARD TIME MAKING HEADS OR TAILS OF THIS BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT IS NOT THE RIGHT USE FOR THE I TWO DISTRICT. HOWEVER IS IT THE RIGHT INTERIM USE FOR THE ITU DISTRICT AND IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE THINK ABOUT FOR AIRPORT PARKING IS AIRPORT PARKING WHAT WE REALLY WANT THE SOUTH LOOP NO BUT IS IT THE RIGHT INTERIM USE BECAUSE THERE'S SPACE AVAILABILITY IT'S CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT. YES. SO FOR ME I'M STARTING TO CONVINCE MYSELF IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IS LABELED AS INTERIM AND BECAUSE THERE ARE TIME PARAMETERS AROUND IT. HOWEVER WE HAVE THIS YOU KNOW I WOULD CONSIDER QUOTE UNQUOTE BAGGAGE WITH OTHER INTERIM USES THAT WE'VE IN THE CITY INCLUDING AIRPORT PARKING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE LOT OF OR MORE OF THAT SHOULD NOT PRECLUDE THE USE OF AN INTERIM INTERIM OF SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY REGARDLESS SETTING THE SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION ENTIRELY ASIDE, I THINK THE WORD HERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IF WE ARE TO BE A COMMUNITY WHERE WE CAN AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE ON THIS COUNCIL WHICH IS WE NEED TO BE A NIMBLE COMMUNITY THAT CAN SHIFT WITH WHAT IN SHAPE WITH WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON BOTH IN THE MARKET AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THIS IS WE DO THAT AND SO NOW I CAN SAY I WOULD MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE OF THE WORD INTERIM AND I THINK THAT IT IS IT HAS A TIME FRAME ON IT AND WE NOW WE'RE NOW SMARTER I BELIEVE AS A CITY TO NOT SAY WE'RE INTERIM AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE AN INTERIM AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE AN INTERIM AND APPROPRIATE INTERIM. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE THAN THAT AND I BELIEVE THAT THE THE REAL GOAL HERE IS ACTUALLY INTERIM USE. SO I'LL LEAVE MY COMMENTS THERE. COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN JUST FOR CLARITY WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING CURRENTLY LEGALLY NON-CONFORMITY CONFIRMING THEN GOING TO BE INTERIM USE IN THREE YEARS TIME WOULD THEY BE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE A AN ASSOCIATION THE HOTEL ON THEIR BUILDING OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND JEROME AND COMMISSIONER AND GOLTZMAN MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT ONCE THE HOTEL USE CEASES FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REESTABLISH IT. SO TO REESTABLISH THE HOTEL WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF CODE AMENDMENT TO AGAIN OPEN THE DOOR TO A HOTEL USE. SO THAT'S REGARDLESS OF THEIR FRANCHISEE ASSOCIATION AS BEING A HOTEL. TARA JOE ROHMAN COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN THAT'S CORRECT. TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF OF THEIR FRANCHISE ARRANGEMENT. THANK. COMMISSIONER COOKSON THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. MCGREGOR WE'RE HEARING THAT IT'S ALREADY NOT BEEN A HOTEL FOR FOUR YEARS BUT MAYBE NOT ON THE BOOKS SO. IS THIS BY WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS OR WHAT WE KNOW IS THE GERMAN COMMISSIONER COOKED IN SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TODAY THE USE AS A HOTEL THERE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL IT SOMEWHAT OF A GRAY LINE BETWEEN WHEN A HOTEL NO LONGER BECOMES A HOTEL. ONE OF THE ISSUES WE WOULD LOOK AT HOTELS ARE LIMITED 30 DAY STAYS. WE'VE HEARD THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE IN THIS CASE THAT MOVES AWAY FROM A HOTEL CERTAINLY FOR DECADES BLOCKS OF ROOMS AND ROOMS HAVE BEEN LEASED FOR SHELTER PURPOSES AND MANY, MANY HOTELS. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE BUT WHEN THE ENTIRE HOTEL IS LEASED THAT IS A LITTLE DYNAMIC CHANGES THE KIND OF NATURE OF WHETHER NOT IT'S A HOTEL BUT WE HAVE VIEWED IT AS A HOTEL. YOU KNOW UP UNTIL THIS APPLICATION. WELL MR. CHAIR, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE THIS APPLICATION THAT'S FOR THE NEXT ONE FAIR AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT IN IS AGAIN WHAT I AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHAT ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF A DECISION AND SO I THINK I CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE ALIGNING WHICH IS FINE. I THINK IT'S IT'S WHAT ELSE ARE WE OPENING UP IN A WAY TO WHAT OTHER TYPES OF CONGREGATE USES ARE AN OPTION AND IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION AGAIN WHICH IS THE NEXT APPLICATION BUT WE'RE OPENING UP THAT APPLICATION TO COME BEFORE US IF WE APPROVE THIS YOU ARE TAKING OUT A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING HOTEL AND IF THE NEXT APPLICATION IS APPROVED THEN IT BECOMES NO LONGER ABLE TO BE A HOTEL AND THEN YOU IN MY OPINION AGAIN IT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE ASKING THE CONSENT TODAY BUT IT'S WHAT'S THE NEXT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. YOU'RE SETTING YOURSELF UP A PERPETUITY OF PERPETUAL INTERIM USE PERMITS BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER USE FOR THAT PLACE THAN TO TEAR IT DOWN. AND THE CITY HAS HAD ALMOST ZERO TRACK RECORD OF NOT RENEWING INTERIM USE PERMITS AND I HEAR COMMISSIONER ULBRICH THEY WERE SMART ENOUGH BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE COMMISSIONER CARY YEAH I, I MEAN THERE'S THE FACILITY FILL FACILITY HAS BEEN OPEN FOR THREE YEARS AND I MEAN I KNOW IT SEEMS THERE MAYBE BEEN SOME CHALLENGES IN THE NEIGHBORING PARKING LOTS. I MEAN THE CITY COUNCIL WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL I UNDERSTAND. SO AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER I MEAN IT SEEMS I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT THIS USE DOES NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORING USES SO YOU KNOW THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THAT I THINK INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A BIG DECISION THAT'S SEEMS TO BE THE BASIC PREMISE OF THE THE PLANNING SITUATION, RIGHT? MM HMM . COMMISSIONER COOKSON MR. CHAIR, I'M REALLY TORN. IS I FEEL LIKE I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY HELPING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS AND. I PROFESSIONALLY WORK WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE THE TWO TWIN CITIES AND I CAN FEEL WHEN I TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I BELIEVE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON I CAN FEEL THE YOU KNOW, LOOKING DOWN UPON US FOR NOT DOING SOME OF THE RIGHT THINGS PARTICULARLY IT COMES TO ADDRESSING THE CRISIS OF HOMELESSNESS AND I, I DON'T KNOW I JUST WONDER IF THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO START DOING THE RIGHT THING EVEN IF IT'S NOT PERFECT BUT MAN I TOO IT'S ALMOST THE ABSOLUTE WORST PLACE TO DO IT SO THAT'S WHY I'M TORN. I STILL CAN'T MAKE UP MY MIND COMMISSIONER CARY I GUESS I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE FROM THE PLANNING STANDPOINT WE SAW CHARTER SCHOOL, RIGHT? I GUESS I WASN'T ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT POINT BUT THERE WAS THE CHARTER SCHOOL APPLICATION AND THE CITY THERE WASN'T I DON'T THINK MUCH SUPPORT FOR CHILDREN BEING IN THE AREA THE THE LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS I GUESS AGAIN JUST I MEAN I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE AND I THINK I REALLY HOPE, YOU KNOW THE EXTENSION FOR TWO YEARS CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN SEE IT THROUGH FOR THE TWO YEARS AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT IS YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY SOME KIND OF TRANSITION TO SOMEWHERE BUT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE I DON'T IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME SO THAT'S JUST THE START AND I WISH I COULD AND I WOULD BUILD ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU KNOW I THINK FOR ME IF THIS WAS IF IT WAS A REQUEST AN INTERIM USE IN ANY OF THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE HOTELS, I DON'T THINK I'D HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AND WE CAN DO OUR PART IN A LOT OF PART OF TOWN PARTS OF TOWN. I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THAT AND I ALSO THINK IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH. WE HAVE TWO PARTS OF OUR OF OUR CURRENT PLAN THAT OUR INTENTION BOTH ARE BOTH ARE IMPORTANT AND BOTH ARE KEY VALUES THE CITY BUT THEIR INTENTION YES. I JUST WONDER IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THIS IN ANY OTHER ZONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE FOR THE COUNTY OR OTHER BODY IS IT'S POSSIBLE THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT IS BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST AFFORDABLE POSSIBLE. MR. NICHOLSON. THANK YOU CHAIR. IS IT THE MOST BECAUSE IT'S THE LEAST EQUITABLE OR AT LEAST DESIRABLE AND THAT'S MY STICKING POINT IS IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY AND I THE IS NOT A PLACE REGARDLESS ON THE SITUATION I COMPLETELY AGREE WE WANT TO HELP WHERE WE CAN WE WANT TO HELP IN THE RIGHT WAY WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE PROUD AND CAN BE SAFE, CAN BE LIVING DIGNITY WHILE THEY'RE TRANSITIONING AND I TO IT FOR ME IS THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. MR. CHAIR, I THINK I STILL GO BACK TO I APOLOGIZE FOR REPEATING MYSELF BUT HAVING A HAVING A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH DIGNITY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO SEE THAT APPLICATION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THEM COME BEFORE US AND SAY WE WANT TO PUT UP A HOMELESS SHELTER BLOOMINGTON CENTRAL STATION IT'S GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL PARK AND IT'S GOT ALL AMENITIES AND ALL THAT. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND SO THIS IS OUR THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY. IT'S THE APPLICATION US I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO SEE ANOTHER ONE. MY INSTINCT IS THAT WE ARE READY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FOR A MOTION WE TAKE A VOTE AND SEE IF THAT WORKS OR IF WE NEED A DIFFERENT MOTION SO ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION I DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF DISCUSSION BUT I FEEL LIKE WE'VE KIND OF I DON'T KNOW THE WE'VE CHANGED A LOT OF OUR CONVERSATION IN THE 5 MINUTES . COMMISSIONER ALBRECHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD IN CASE PEOPLE 2022-206I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM USE IN THE I TOO LIMITED INDUSTRY ZONING DISTRICT 23 OH SORRY AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPO PEOPLE 2023 MY APOLOGIES TO THREE OR TO 4 TO 3 IT WAS APPLIED FOR AT THE END OF 2020 OKAY RIGHT IN CASE PL 20243-206I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY CODE TO ALLOW CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM USE IN THE I TO LIMITED INDUSTRY ZONING DISTRICT. SECOND THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND THE ADOPTION OF A ZONING CODE THE CITY COUNCIL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AND ALSO AS WE ASK THEM I ASK FOR A SHOW OF HANDS BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A CLOSE VOTE AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME FOLKS WITH A VOICE CHALLENGE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I AND RAISE A HAND I OPPOSED NAY OPPOSED THE MOTION FAILS TO FOR WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION WISH I GOLTZMAN THANK YOU CHAIR IN PEOPLE 2023-206I MOVE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE I'M SORRY IT MOVED TO RECOMMEND DENIAL BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO NOT ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY CODE TO ALLOW CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES AS AN INTERIM IN THE I TO LIMITED INDUSTRY ZONING DISTRICT SECOND THANK YOU WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND TO RECOMMEND DENIAL OF AN ORDINANCE THE CITY CODE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING DENIAL SAY I I OPPOSED NO MOTION PASSES FOR TWO THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE APRIL 1ST CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDA THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE FOR YOUR ADVOCACY AND FOR YOUR WORK ITEM NUMBER TWO AS A STUDY ITEM IT IS THE CITY'S GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS STUDY AND SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR STRAUSS HAS THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING OR GOOD TO GO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I AM AMOSTRAS I'M THE SUSTAINABILITY AT THE CITY AND I AM JOINED BY ASHTON RYAN FROM SRF CONSULTING AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT PRESENT ON A STUDY THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON SO I'M GOING TO KICK THINGS OFF AND THEN PASS IT OFF TO ASH BUT ESSENTIALLY WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT AND WHY DID WE DO THIS STUDY? IT REALLY GOES BACK TO 2017 WHEN CITY COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION SUPPORT OF THE PARIS AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS GOALS OF CARBON NEUTRALITY BY 2050. A YEAR LATER THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED ENERGY ACTION PLAN FOR THE CITY STATING THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS A 75% REDUCTION IN GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM A 2016 BASELINE BY 2030 THEN FOLLOWING THAT ARE IN 2021 WE HAD SORRY 2022 THE CITY DECLARED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY RECOGNIZING THAT WE ARE IN A CRISIS AND OUR NEED TO WORK TOWARDS REDUCING OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND TAKE ACTIONS TO DO THAT ESPECIALLY FOCUSED ON OUR LARGEST SOURCES WHICH IN THE CASE OF BLOOMINGTON IS NATURAL GAS, ELECTRICITY OR ENERGY USE FOLLOWED BY TRANSPORTATION ARE THE TWO LARGEST SOURCES CONTRIBUTING TO THE PROBLEM FOLLOWING THAT IN THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN WE HAVE THAT ONE OF THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES IS BY 2030 TO HAVE THE CITY ACHIEVE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE INDICES MEASURING THE COMMUNITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL AND INDIVIDUAL AND ONE OF THOSE IS TIED SPECIFICALLY TO REDUCING GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS. SO BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE HAD A LOT MORE ACCESS TO DATA AROUND NATURAL GAS AND ELECTRICITY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TRACK PROGRESS TOWARDS THOSE GOALS BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT SAME ATTENTION TO TRANSPORTATION. SO UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARDS THESE GOALS HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE MURKY SO THAT'S WHY WE HIRED SRF AS THE CONSULTING FIRM TO DO A DEEP DOVE AND GIVE US KIND OF THE FIRST STEP TO UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY GETTING AROUND THE CITY AND HOW THAT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO GREENHOUSE GAS AND CLIMATE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE VARIOUS STRATEGY BUCKETS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT 2050 GOAL OF CARBON NEUTRALITY. AND TO ILLUSTRATE THIS A SENSE OF GOING FROM POINT A TO POINT B WHEREVER IT IS IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE SIX PEOPLE THE MOST IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR, IT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO GET AROUND THE CITY WHERE IT WAS BUILT AROUND CARS. SO THAT MEANS WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO WORK SCHOOL, THE GROCERY STORE YOU'RE TAKING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND CARBON EMISSIONS WITH YOU. THE GOAL IS TO LOOK STILL HAVING SIX PEOPLE GET TO WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO IN THE COMMUNITY BUT WORKING AND PROVIDING MORE OPTIONS SO MAYBE SOME PEOPLE CAN TAKE THE THE BUS TO WORK. MAYBE SOMEONE'S GOING TO BIKE LIKE I DID TO WORK TODAY. MAYBE SOMEONE NEEDS TO DRIVE RIGHT AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING GASOLINE IN THAT CAR THEY'RE THEN USING ELECTRIC VEHICLE. SO STILL GETTING TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S LESS CARBON BEING EMITTED TO GET THEM THERE. SO THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT MOBILITY OPTIONS AND ACCESSIBILITY REDUCING THOSE GREENHOUSE EMISSIONS AND ALSO IMPROVING COMMUNITY HEALTH. THINKING ABOUT THE CURRENT THAT THE WAY THAT WE'RE GETTING AROUND IS CAUSING FOR WHO ARE LIVING NEAR THE BUSIEST ROADS IN THE CITY AND ALSO THE MORE ACTIVE LIFESTYLE THAT'S COULD BENEFIT COMMUNITY HEALTH. SO THAT I WILL PASS IT OFF TO ASH TO WALK THROUGH THE RESEARCH THAT HAS BEEN DONE THANK YOU MAYOR AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR HAVING US HERE. MY NAME AGAIN IS ASHA NARAYANAN WITH SRF CONSULTING AND LIKE HIM I SAID WE'RE HOPING TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY IS REALLY JUST A FIRST STEP IN HELPING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHERE WE HOPE TO GO FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. JUST A QUICK GLIMPSE OF OUR PROJECT TEAM HERE. I WAS HELPED ON THIS PROJECT BY MY COLLEAGUES PAUL AND SAM RICKARD WHO DID MANY MUCH OF THE MODELING AND ANALYSIS AND STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT REALLY IS TO LIKE I SAID UNDERSTAND WHERE THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM LIES IN TERMS OF CARBON EMISSIONS AND HOW IT CAN HELP THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ACHIEVE ITS LONG TERM CARBON REDUCTION SCHOOL. WE ALSO WANT TO IDENTIFY HIGH LEVEL STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THE NET ZERO GOAL AND ALSO FIND IN WHICH THESE STRATEGIES CAN ALIGN WITH OTHER CITY GOALS IDENTIFIED AND STRATEGIC PRIORITIES INCLUDING EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND ECONOMIC. SO QUICK OVERVIEW OUR PROJECT STEPS WE LOOKED AT WHAT EXISTING CONDITIONS LIKE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE LOOKED MOSTLY FOR PUBLICLY AVAILABLE TO INFORM OUR ANALYSIS AND THEN REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DIFFERENT WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH A NET ZERO GOAL FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR COULD BE ACHIEVED AND. SO WE DEVELOPED A FEW SCENARIOS THERE BASED ON THOSE SCENARIOS WE DEVELOPED A STRATEGY FRAMEWORK THAT THEN INFORMED THE INDIVIDUAL STRATEGIES THEMSELVES WHICH ARE STILL BEING FORMED SO THAT IT CAN SET UP THE CITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS BE. SO HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF CARBON EMISSION TRENDS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE SEE THAT THE THE GREEN BARS THERE ARE CARBON EMISSIONS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR WITH THE RED BAR SHOWING AND THE REMAINING BEING WASTE. WE SEE THAT ENERGY EMISSIONS HAVE DECLINED OVER THE YEARS PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF NEW RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES COMING ON LINE. BUT THE TRANSPORTATION PROBLEM HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO CRACK. WE'VE SEEN TRANSPORTATION REMAIN EITHER THE SAME OR GO UP OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO EXCEPT IN 2020 WHEN THIS RANGE OF BARS CUTS OFF BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND IN TRAVEL THAT THE DROP IN TRAVEL WE SAW DURING COVID WE ALSO SEE THAT ABOUT 40% OF THE CITY'S EMISSIONS COME FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR AND FROM WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ITSELF. WE CAN SEE HERE A BREAKDOWN OF DIFFERENT SECTORS AND HOW MUCH THEY CONTRIBUTE TO CARBON EMISSIONS AND WE SEE ABOUT WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION THE MAJORITY OF EMISSIONS COME FROM PASSENGER VEHICLES, THE REMAINDER MADE UP OF MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES AND A SMALL SLIVER FROM THE TRANSIT SYSTEM. LOOKING AT WHERE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS TODAY WE LOOKED AT TRANSPORTATION COSTS PER HOUSEHOLD IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND COMPARED THEM TO HENNEPIN COUNTY. WE FIND THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER AVERAGE TRANSPORTATION COSTS PER HOUSEHOLD $13,918 IN BLOOMINGTON VERSUS 12,996 IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. THE CITY OWNS ABOUT 1.83 AUTOS FOR HOUSEHOLD COMPARED TO 1.71 FOR THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE AND A CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD DRIVES ABOUT A THOUSAND MILES MORE THAN THAN HENNEPIN COUNTY. WE ALSO TOOK A QUICK LOOK AT THE CAPITAL PLAN AND WE FOUND THAT THE BREAKDOWN IN THIS GRAPH SHOWS THAT WE SPEND ABOUT $230 MILLION ON AUTO CENTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE YEAR AND ABOUT 27.5 ON BIKE BIKING INFRASTRUCTURE ABOUT 13.2 MILLION ON PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT A LOT OF THE AUTO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS MAY HAVE BIKE AND PAD ELEMENTS WITHIN THEM ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THIS GRAPH BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW THE CITY SPLITS THAT UP. WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION EQUITY AND MOBILITY JUSTICE IN THE CITY. WE KNOW THAT FAST DECISIONS OFTEN MARGINALIZE SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS OFTEN BY BUILDING FREEWAYS THROUGH THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND THOSE IMPACTS STILL AFFECT US TODAY. FOR EXAMPLE FOLKS WHO LIVE NEAR FREEWAYS WILL BREATHE WORSE AIR. AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT ACCESSING MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION IS A KEY WAY FOLKS CAN BREAK OUT OF POVERTY AND WE KNOW THAT WALKING AND BIKING ACCESS IS NOT DISTRIBUTED EQUITABLY ACROSS THE CITY AND WE SEE THAT A HIGHER SHARE OF BIPOC RESIDENTS DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO GOOD QUALITY WALKING AND BIKING FACILITIES. SO WE WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN REDUCING TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS ALSO REDUCE INEQUITY WITHIN THE SYSTEM. SO A QUICK SUMMARY OF OUR FINDINGS IS THAT WE KNOW THAT FOR CLOSE 40% OF EMISSIONS MAKE UP A TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS MAKE UP TOTAL EMISSIONS IN BLOOMINGTON DRIVING AND SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES UP THE MAJORITY OF EMISSIONS WITHIN TRANSPORTATION WHILE EMISSIONS FROM ENERGY GENERATION HAS DECLINED TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS HAVE REMAINED STEADY OR RISEN AND BLOOMINGTON HOUSEHOLDS SPEND MORE IN TRANSPORTATION COSTS THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE AND THEY DRIVE MORE THAN THAT THAN PEOPLE DO IN HENNEPIN COUNTY AS A WHOLE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THE PATHWAYS MAY BE TO CARBON NEUTRALITY AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHAT WHAT STEPS THE CITY COULD TAKE TOWARDS CREATING A ZERO CARBON TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. SO WE BUILT OUT OF FOUR SCENARIOS WHERE AND HERE'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT WHAT THAT WHAT WENT INTO THAT'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT RANGING FROM GATHERING EXISTING DATA IDENTIFYING THOSE SCENARIOS BUILDING MODELS THAT COULD QUANTITATIVELY TELL WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET US THERE THEN WE GROUND TO TEST AND WITH EXISTING DATA FROM OTHER SOURCES AND THEN USE THAT TO BUILD SOME OF THE INITIAL STRATEGIES THAT YOU'LL SEE. SO SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS HERE WHERE THAT WE WERE GOING TO IDENTIFY QUANTITATIVELY HOW TO REACH CARBON NEUTRAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM BY 2050 MODEL A MIX OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH THAT GOAL AND WE FOUND THAT THERE WERE TWO KEY PATHWAYS IDENTIFIED THE FIRST BEING ELECTRIFYING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND THEN REDUCING DRIVING SO REDUCING VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THE NUMBER MILES DRIVEN BY SOMEONE WITHIN A SPECIFIED GEOGRAPHIC AREA USUALLY WITHIN A YEAR SO WE SET OUR BASIC BENCHMARK GOAL OF TRANSPORTATION GHG REDUCTION OF ABSOLUTE 80% REDUCTION FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY AND WE DEVELOPED FOUR SCENARIOS BASED ON THAT GOAL. ONE WAS A HIGH ELECTRIFICATION SCENARIO, ONE WAS A HIGH VMT REDUCTION SCENARIO AND TWO SCENARIOS THAT WERE A MIX OF BOTH THAT COMBINED VMT REDUCTION AND ELECTRIFICATION. SO I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE HERE THE FIRST ONE REQUIRES THIS IS THE HIGH ELECTRIFICATION AND TO REACH 80% GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS BY 2050 WE FOUND THAT WE'LL NEED TO ELECTRIFY 65% OF ALL ON ROAD VEHICLES BY 2050 THAT IS THE ENTIRE FLEET OF CARS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON 65% OF THEM HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC AND ALL NEW VEHICLE SALES HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC BY 2045 AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A 10% REDUCTION IN DRIVING ACROSS THE CITY AS WELL. THE SECOND ONE IT'S A HIGH VMT REDUCTION SCENARIO. WE FOUND THAT TO ACHIEVE A 40% REDUCTION IN VMT WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO HAVE 45% OF ON ROAD VEHICLES BE ELECTRIFIED BY THEN AND 85% OF NEW VEHICLE SALES BE ELECTRIC BY 2050. THE THIRD SCENARIO IS WHAT WE CALL THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ONE AND WE FOUND 30% REDUCTION BY 2050 AND VMT WOULD BE REQUIRED WITH A 55% ELECTRIFICATION GOAL WITH ALL NEW VEHICLES BY 2050 AND THEN SCENARIO FOUR WHICH WAS KIND OF THE I'D SAY THE MOST MIDDLE OF THE ROAD BUT WE FOUND THAT TO TO REACH THE 80% GHG REDUCTIONS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE 20% REDUCTION IN VMT BY 2050 AND 60% OF ALL ONBOARD VEHICLES BE ELECTRIFIED BY 2047. SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHETHER THIS COMPARES FAVORABLY WITH OTHER ANALYSIS DONE. WE FOUND THAT IT WAS VERY SIMILAR WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOUND IN 2019 AS WELL WHERE WE FOUND SIMILAR LEVELS OF VMT REDUCTION AND ELECTRIFICATION REQUIRED BUT MINNESOTA STUDY ALSO LOOKED AT BOTH HEAVY HEAVY VEHICLES MEDIUM DUTY VEHICLES, BIOFUELS AND MOBILE REFRIGERANTS WHICH ARE NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF OUR STUDY . SO WHILE WE WE DO WANT TO REACH CARBON NEUTRAL 2050 OUR MODEL FOUND WE WOULD HAVE TO COVER THE REMAINING GAP BY A VARIETY WAYS WHICH IS YOU KNOW WHICH SOME OF WHICH FOR WHICH TECHNOLOGIES DO NOT EXIST YET BUT COULD COME ONLINE SUCH AS CARBON CAPTURING OR SEQUESTRATION OR CARBON CREDIT BUYING CARBON CREDITS OTHER SECTORS. SO AGAIN A SUMMARY OF THE SCENARIOS IS ACHIEVING THE CARBON NEUTRAL GOAL BY 2050 WILL REQUIRE A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH WHICH IS FOCUSED BOTH ELECTRIFICATION AND REDUCING DRUNK DRIVING. THERE IS NO ONE SILVER BULLET MULTIPLE STRATEGIES WILL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE. LIKE I SAID FINDINGS ARE IN LINE WITH OTHER ANALYSIS AND THE REST OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL HAVE SCENARIO FOR THE 20% VMT REDUCTION SCENARIOS THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS . SO WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THE WAYS IN WHICH THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON COULD EFFECT CHANGE HERE AND SO WE FOUND THAT THE MAIN THERE'S THERE'S PROBABLY SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH THE CITY HAS CONTROL OVER TRANSPORTATION BUT THE PRIMARY WE THOUGHT THE MOST EFFECTIVE WHERE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS HOW THE CITY SPENDS MONEY AND WHAT THEY SPEND MONEY ON THE DESIGN OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ITSELF ZONING AND LAND USE AND POLICIES AND INCENTIVES WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK DATA THAT TRIED TO SEE HOW TRIPS ARE BEING MADE WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS I'M SORRY THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. HOW PEOPLE TRAVELING AND WHY ARE THEY TRAVELING AND WHAT IS THE DISTANCE THAT THEY'RE TRAVELING FOR SO OUR ANALYSIS LOOKED AT TRIPS THAT EITHER ORIGINATE OR CONCLUDE THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THIS ANALYSIS USES A TYPICAL PATTERN FOR FOR THURSDAY AND WE FOUND SOME INTERESTING NUMBERS IF YOU LOOK ON THIS GRAPH YOU CAN SEE THAT ABOUT 40 ABOUT 50% OF TRIPS RESULT IN ABOUT I'M SORRY ABOUT TRIPS THAT ARE ABOUT BETWEEN ZERO AND 20 MILES IN LENGTH REFLECT IT IN ABOUT 50% OF THE TOTAL MILES DRIVEN IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE AS THE TRIP LENGTHS GET HIGHER, THEY MAKE UP THE REMAINDER OF THE MILES DRIVEN IN THE CITY. AND SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT HERE. THE THE YOU CAN SEE WHY WHAT WHAT TRIP PURPOSES PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING GENERALLY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WE FOUND THAT THE THE MAIN REASON PEOPLE TRAVEL THE BIGGEST REASON PEOPLE TRAVEL IS FOR WORK FOLLOWED BY SHOPPING AND THEN GOING AND WE FOUND THAT THE TRIPS THAT LESS THAN FIVE MILES IN LENGTH WITHIN THE SHOPPING CATEGORY MAKE UP ABOUT 22% OF TRIPS. TRIPS THAT ARE 5 TO 10 MILES MAKE ABOUT WHAT 19% 10 TO 20 MAKE ABOUT 16% AND ABOUT 20 MAKE ABOUT 15% OF OF TOTAL VMT AND YOU CAN SEE SIMILAR PATTERNS FOR THE OTHERS AS WELL WORK IN HOME. AND ONE INTERESTING THING WE FOUND WAS THAT WORK TRIPS AS THEY GET LONGER CONTRIBUTE A LOT MORE TO TOTAL DRIVING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT SHOPPING TRIPS IF I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY SKEW A LITTLE BIT SHORTER SO AGAIN KIND OF THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT EVEN THOUGH A MAJORITY OF TRIPS ARE SHORT TRIPS THEY DO NOT MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF HOW MUCH PEOPLE DRIVE IN THE OF BLOOMINGTON AND 75% OF VMT IS GENERATED BY TRIPS OVER TEN MILES AND SHOPPING SOCIAL AND SCHOOL TRIPS TEND TO SKEW SHORTER SO TO KIND OF GET TO THE NEXT STAGE HERE WE CREATED A FRAMEWORK TO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN MOVE THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR CARBON NEUTRALITY AND BASED OFF OF STRIP DATA CAME UP WITH A FOUR PRONGED FRAMEWORK ALL OF WHICH SORT OF INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER THE FIRST BEING SHIFTING TRIPS WHICH MEANS SHIFTING TRIPS FROM SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES TO ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AVOIDING TRIPS WHICH MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO MEET ALL OF YOUR NEEDS WITHOUT HAVING TO TRAVEL IN YOUR OWN VEHICLE SHORTENING TRIPS SO THAT THE THAT THE DISTANCE YOU TRAVEL TO REACH YOUR DESTINATION ACTUALLY IS NOT AS HIGH AND THEN PROVIDING INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO TO DRIVE LESS SO SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SHIFTING TRIPS MIGHT LOOK LIKE ARE ONE IS RIGHTSIZING OUR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE INCREASING THE FREQUENCY OF OF THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE AND THE RELIABILITY OF PUBLIC TRANSIT INCREASING TRANSIT ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY ENHANCING PUBLIC ENHANCING THE SAFETY AND COMFORT OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SUCH AS BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WALKING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN DECREASING ECONOMIC BARRIERS TO WALKING, BIKING AND TRANSIT MODES AVOIDING TRIPS WHICH WOULD BE MOSTLY TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. SO THOSE WOULD BE THINGS LIKE EMPLOYER SPONSORED PROGRAMS WHERE YOU GET A A BUS PASS INSTEAD OF SUBSIDIZED PARKING FOR EXAMPLE OR AN INCREASING VIRTUAL ACCESS TO TELE WORK SO THAT YOU CAN MAYBE YOUR DOCTOR OR WORK FROM HOME ONLINE AND THEN SHORTENING TRIPS WHICH IS LAND USE DECISIONS THAT ENCOURAGE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND DISCOURAGE SPRAWL, SUPPORTING TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, INCREASING THE AVAILABLE ITY OF BASIC NEEDS THAT PEOPLE NEED WITHIN CLOSE TO WHERE THEY LIVE OR WORK AND THEN INCREASING THE AVAILABILITY OF SPECIALTY AND THEN INCENTIVIZING WHICH IS FINDING WAYS TO TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE BOTH CARROTS AND STICKS SO. FOLKS FEEL LIKE THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR TRAVEL BEHAVIOR A LITTLE BIT WHICH IS INCREASING THINGS LIKE INCREASING PARKING PRICING INCREMENTALLY WITH PROXIMITY TO URBAN CENTERS OR REDUCING PARKING AVAILABILITY, PROVIDING TRANSIT PASSES, PROVIDING CONVENIENT PARKING AND STORAGE FOR BIKES AND SUBSIDIZING E-BIKE PURCHASES. AND AGAIN THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES AND ARE NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF STRATEGIES BUT JUST KIND OF GIVING YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT FALLS UNDER EACH OF THESE BROAD CATEGORIES AND SO YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO KIND OF SHOW THAT TRAVEL BEHAVIOR IS REALLY INFLUENCED BY THE AVAILABILITY OF A MULTITUDE OF TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE, AFFORDABLE, AVAILABLE, COMFORTABLE AND SAFE. AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE COULD GET AROUND A IN A IN A CITY THAT IS MOVING TOWARDS THAT NET ZERO GOAL. AND FINALLY YOU KNOW WHAT DO SOME OF THESE SCENARIOS REALLY LOOK LIKE IN PRACTICE? YOU CAN SEE THREE EXAMPLES HERE. ON THE LEFT WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO INSTEAD OF DRIVING TO THE GROCERY STORE ONCE A WEEK THEY CAN PURCHASE AN E-BIKE AND, USE THAT TO MAKE TRIPS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TOO MANY BAGS TO CARRY AND SO YOU COULD REPLACE MAYBE THREE OUT OF EVERY FOUR CAR TRIPS THAT WAY. IN ANOTHER EXAMPLE BUS RAPID TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY BY SOMEBODY WHO'S DROPPING OFF KIDS TO CHILD CARE MIGHT FIND THAT BECAUSE OF THAT SIGNAL PRIORITY IT ACTUALLY TAKES LESS TIME THAN DRIVING AND SO THEY COULD USE THAT USE THE BUS INSTEAD OF DRIVING EVERY DAY AND THEN FINALLY SOMEONE WHO GOES INTO THE OFFICE FIVE DAYS A WEEK COULD WORK FROM HOME. ONE OF THOSE DAYS. AND SO WHILE THEY'RE AT HOME YOU COULD WALK TO THE GROCERY STORE TO GRAB LUNCH OR MAYBE GO SEE DENTIST OR SOMETHING. AND SO REALLY THE POINT OF THIS IS TRYING TO SHOW WHAT A 20% REDUCTION IN VMT MIGHT LOOK LIKE BY 2050 THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS YOU KNOW, DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT FUTURE THAN IT IS TODAY BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY HAPPENING BUT REALLY SOMETHING THAT CAN HAVE A LOT OF GAINS JUST BY SHIFTING TRANSPORT TRAVEL BEHAVIOR A LITTLE BIT THROUGH THE DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH THE CITY CAN CAN EXERT CONTROL . SO REALLY AS EMMA SAID KNOW WE'RE AT THE VERY FIRST STEP HERE. WE CAN SEE A WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE NET ZERO GOAL WE DECLARED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY AND THIS PROJECT REALLY TO UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW IDENTIFY PRIORITIZE AND COMMUNICATE WHAT EFFECTIVE TRANSPORTATION DECARBONIZATION STRATEGIES BE AND REALLY TO SET THE STAGE FOR POLICYMAKERS AND DECISION MAKERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO SET GOALS AND TARGETS IF NEED BE SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF MEASURE OUR PROGRESS ALONG VARIOUS DECARBONIZATION TARGET HORIZONS AS WE APPROACH 2050. WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU EMMA. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'LL UP FOR QUESTIONS BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE WILL ALSO BE GOING TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND WE WILL ALSO BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL TO PRESENT THIS ON FIRST AND WE'LL BE TAKING FEEDBACK AND IDEAS AND INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE FINAL REPORT AND PRESENTATION SO YOU THANK YOU FOR THE STUDY ITEM SO OPEN CONVERSATION DIALOG COMMISSIONER COOKSON THANKS MR. CHAIR. I'M NOT SURE I THINK IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF THE PLANNING TODAY BUT IT WOULD BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON AND THE REASON I ASK IS THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE AND I'M UNCLEAR SOME OF WHAT IS THAT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT THINGS THAT ARE GOOD IDEAS WE ALL SHOULD BE DOING. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE HAND IN . THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE THERE MAY A HAND IN AND THEN THE OTHER THINGS ARE JUST THAT WAY. I SURE HOPE EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE JUST DOES A BETTER JOB OF THIS AND SO THE COMMISSIONER KIRSTEN'S POINT WHAT'S MOST HELPFUL A PLANNING COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE VERSUS MY OWN OPINION AS A RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND AND COMMISSIONER COOK THEN I WOULD SAY MAIN PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS HONESTLY AWARENESS THAT THIS IS WHERE CITY IS DIPPING THEIR TOE IN TO GETTING THIS BASELINE INFORMATION AND WE WILL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH TO ASK FOR A REQUEST TO USE STRATEGIC FUNDS TO FUND A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND THAT WOULD BE A COMPREHEND PIECE OF DOCUMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION BUT REALLY BE A DOCUMENT THAT INCORPORATES ALL CLIMATE MITIGATION STRATEGIES AND THINKING ABOUT CLIMATE EQUITY AND ALSO RESILIENCY WITHIN THAT AND I SEE THAT BEING IF THAT IS APPROVED THE NEXT STEP TO REALLY DIG DEEPER INTO THIS INITIAL DATA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT GOALS NEED TO BE SET AND THEN MORE SPECIFICALLY OUT OF SOME OF THESE OPTIONS THAT EFFORTS ARE PROVIDED TO HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION OF WHAT DIRECTION STRATEGIES DO WE ACTUALLY WANT TO ADOPT AS A CITY. SO TONIGHT MOSTLY HAVING THE DISCUSSION OF HIGH LEVEL THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING I THINK DEFINITELY INCLUDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF IF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN DOES MOVE FORWARD DEFINITELY WANTING TO HAVE VOICES IN ON THOSE VARIOUS SECTIONS ESPECIALLY TRANSPORTATION BUT TONIGHT IN OVERALL FEEDBACK IF TS IS SOMETHING THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN THINKING ABOUT AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR GOING BACK TO THE BUCKETS OF CITY INFLUENCE, IF THERE'S THAT YOU FEEL ARE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO BE FOCUSING ON. SO WHEN I GATHERED ALL OF THAT IS MOST RELEVANT TO OUR IS OUR ROLE AS OVERSIGHT OF TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN THE CITY BUT CERTAINLY ANY OTHER FEEDBACK IS USEFUL TO. COMMISSIONER THANK YOU CHAIR AND CAN WE SEE THERE WAS SOMETHING THANK YOU. COULD WE SEE THERE WAS A SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE PERCENTAGES OF EMISSIONS AND USAGE OF GREENHOUSE GAS CAN JUST SEE WHERE THOSE ARE COMING FROM AGAIN LET'S TAKE UP THE FOUR HORIZONTAL BARS. IT WAS LIKE A PIE CHART ON US. YES SO BEGINNING KARAMAN COMMISSIONER GOLTZMAN SO THE DATA FOR EACH YEAR FROM XCEL ENERGY AND CENTERPOINT ENERGY WE HAVE DATA SPECIFICALLY ON THE USE OF 1 TO 4 UNIT RESIDENTIAL AND THEN THAT'S ALSO SEGMENTED FOR COMMERCIAL AND THEN MUNICIPAL IS ALSO SEPARATED FOR THIS WE WERE ABLE TO DO A SPECIAL SEGMENTATION FOR ONE FIVE PLUS MULTIFAMILY UNITS SO THAT'S BROKEN FOR THIS. SO THAT'S ANNUAL DATA THAT WE ANALYZED FROM THE UTILITIES THE DATA FOR TRANSPORTATION THAT WAS TAKEN THE REGIONAL INDICATORS INITIATIVE. SO THAT GOES BACK TO THE PIE CHARTS FROM THIS DIAGRAM THAT THERE WAS FUNDING TO DO THAT ANALYSIS AND THAT COMES FROM MANDATE DATA FOR VMT WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THAT FUNDING STOPPED WHICH IS WHY WE STOPPED OVER 2022 BUT THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER REASON TO US AS THE CITY INVESTING AND GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EMISSIONS ON OUR OWN. OKAY IT'S A TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAVE IS LOOKING AT THESE DATA SOURCES. OBVIOUSLY THE LATTER PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION WAS REALLY TARGETED ON INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THAT YOU'LL BEHAVIOR CHANGES THAT THEY AS INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE AND I THINK THAT THE CITY CAN DO A LOT THERE WITH YOU KNOW, REINVIGORATING COMMERCIAL NODES MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S AMENITIES FOR PEOPLE, THEIR COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY CAN LIVE, STUDY AND WORK HOPEFULLY ALL WITHIN BLOOMINGTON LIKE I DO. BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THIS THIS CHART HERE AND THINK ABOUT AND ESPECIALLY THE NEXT ONE IS REALLY ABOUT THE INDUSTRY THAT IS WITHIN BLOOMINGTON AND BLOOMINGTON FACILITIES AS WELL. WE HAVE A LOT ELECTRICITY USE, NATURAL GAS USE IN OUR COMMERCIAL IN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS. SO I LOOK AT THE IMPACT YOU WORKING WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN BE A YOU'VE GOT ONE OWNER MUCH BIGGER FACILITY CAN MAKE A BIGGER IMPACT QUICKER THAN EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON MAKING A CHANGE SO I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WANT TO PRIORITIZE THAT BUT THINKING ABOUT YOU KNOW HEY EVERYBODY LET'S TURN OFF THERMOSTATS DOWN BY TWO DEGREES IF WE COULD GET BY IN BY TEN OF THE NINE OF THE TEN BUSINESSES IN A BLOCK THAT COULD MAKE A BIGGER THAN THE ONE OR TWO RESIDENTS THAT CHOOSE BIKE TO WORK. LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE VEHICLES TRAVELED WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND HOW WE NEED TO MAKE OUR STREETS MORE WALKABLE BIKE SAFETY I WORK A MILE A HALF FROM MY HOME BUT I DON'T FEEL SAFE RIDING MY BIKE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR A MILE AND A HALF. SO THERE'S A OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SAFE EVEN FOR PEOPLE THAT COULD BIKE IF THEY WANTED TO. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME COMMENTS I HAVE COMMISSIONER CURRIE CHAIRMAN CAN I RESPOND ? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT. I WANT I THINK FOR CONTEXT DEFINITELY HEARING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF NATURAL GAS AND ELECTRICITY FOCUS SO THE CITY DOES HAVE PROGRAMS WITH LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING THAT WE ARE TARGETING OUR LARGEST USERS OF ENERGY THE CITY WE'RE FOCUSED ON TIME OF SALE ENERGY DISCLOSURE AND HAVE RESIDENTIAL. SO A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE DEDICATED STRATEGIES. THE PURPOSE THIS RESEARCH IS TO RECOGNIZE EVEN IF WE DO EVERYTHING TO TAKE AWAY THE YELLOW AND THE ORANGE UP THERE WE STILL HAVE THE PASSENGER VEHICLES IN BLUE WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION AND TO REACH GOALS WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF IT YOU KNOW, GO DOWN TO ZERO. SO IT'S ONE PIECE OF THAT OVERALL PLAN. CURRIE. THANK YOU CHAIR SO I DON'T IN TERMS OF ALL THE THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STRATEGIES I GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY LIKE EXPERT THOUGHTS ON THAT AT THIS POINT AND WE HAD A WE HAD A MEETING OR TWO ABOUT ELECTRIFICATION AND PLAN AND SINCE THEN, YOU KNOW I GUESS I KIND OF SO I WORK WITH LIKE WITH FACILITIES THAT DEAL WITH A LOT OF ELECTRICITY AND THE MORE LIKE. THE MORE AND MORE TIME GOES ON THE MORE I'M SEEING THERE IS A LACK OF POWER AVAILABLE AND THAT POWER IS BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT TO WITHIN CITIES AND I JUST THINK IN TERMS OF YOUR SCENARIOS I THINK YOU PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO FOCUS MORE ON THE ONE THAT HAS LESS ELECTRIFICATION JUST BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GET ELECTRIFICATION OUT AS MUCH. PEOPLE HOPE IT WOULD BE OUT THERE AS MUCH AS YOU THINK COULD DEVELOP IT. SO AS AN EXAMPLE I MEAN WE'VE SEEN A PROJECT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD I DON'T KNOW LET'S JUST SAY ELECTRIC OR 20 PARKING CHARGING STATIONS. SO THAT'S LIKE A COUPLE OF MEGAWATTS POWER AND YOU KNOW TO DO YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO DOUBLE THE POWER CONSUMPTION OF WHAT WOULD BE AN APARTMENT TODAY OR MAYBE A LARGE APARTMENT BUILDING. SO IF IF OUR HOUSES ON AVERAGE USE FIVE KW OF POWER AND THEN YOU HAVE A CHARGING STATION THAT ALSO USES FIVE KW POWER YOU'RE DOUBLING THE DEMAND FOR POWER FROM ELECTRIFICATION AS WELL SO I JUST I'M VERY SKEPTICAL OF THE GRID HAVING THE ABILITY TO SUPPORT ALL OF THAT SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I SEE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. SO THANK YOU. I THINK YOU YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT AND SOMETHING THAT AS YOU MOVE ALONG IN THE PLAN THE ESPECIALLY IT WENT A COUPLE OF YEARS THERE WITH THAT TO BUILD ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS THAT ONE OF THE SESSIONS LAST FALL AT THE MINNESOTA EPA CONFERENCE THAT OF US ATTENDED AND IT WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT TAKE TO DECARBONIZE THE HOMES THEY DID A STUDY OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DECARBONIZE THE HOMES SPECIFICALLY IN MINNEAPOLIS AND WHAT WAS I THOUGHT WAS MOST TELLING WHAT MAY BE INSTRUCTIVE IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO EMBARK ON BECAUSE I'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THESE CLIMATE ACTION PLANS AT WORK AND IT'S EASY WHEN IN A CONTAINED ENTITY AND YOU SAY WE HAVE CONTROL OVER HOW WE HEAT OUR BUILDINGS, HOW WE SEND OUR EMPLOYEES TO TRAVEL, HOW WE GET PEOPLE I MEAN THAT'S FINE. THAT'S A THAT'S A CONTAINED THING. THIS IS A THIS IS AN INFLUENCE MODEL HERE. THIS IS NOT A A DIRECTIVE MODEL BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE HELP PEOPLE INCENTIVIZE THEM TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE THAN MAYBE EITHER WHAT THEY'RE USED TO OR THE EASIEST CHOICE. AND SO WHAT I MEMBER TOOK AWAY FROM THAT WAS YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD IN MY HEAD FOR A WHILE IN OUR HOUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WELL OKAY WE'VE GOT A FURNACE THAT'S 15 YEARS OLD. IT PROBABLY HAS FIVE MORE YEARS OF LIFE IN IT. SO LET'S START TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT TYPE OF HEAT SOURCE MIGHT BE YOU KNOW, A DUAL FUEL HEAT PUMP OR WHATEVER BUT THEN THAT COM THAT SESSION TALKED ABOUT WELL IF YOU DON'T FIRST UPGRADE YOUR WINDOWS AND IF YOU DON'T FIRST INCREASE THE INSULATION IN YOUR HOME THAT WILL NOT BE A COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR MOST PEOPLE. SEPARATE THE ISSUE OF EXTERNALIZED COSTS THAT COME FROM BURNING CARBON AND THAT'S A WHOLE NUMBER THAT WE DON'T QUANTIFY AS A SOCIETY FOR BECAUSE IT MAKES US UNCOMFORTABLE TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT SO POINT WAS THAT SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT JUST MAKING IT PAINFULLY AND SIMPLE AND WHETHER IT'S INCENTIVES OR YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBABLY A MOVING OF MONEY FROM ONE POCKET TO ANOTHER ABOUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST CELLS. AND I WOKE UP AND I NEEDED A NEW FURNACE AND BOY I GOT THE ELECTRIC ONE AND IT WAS GREAT. WELL SUDDENLY MY BILL IS 50% HIGHER BECAUSE I DIDN'T REPLACE MY 60 YEAR OLD WINDOWS IN MY THAT'S NOW COLLAPSED AND THAT'S PROVIDING NO INSULATION IN MY ATTIC. RIGHT. SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE THINK ABOUT. I ALSO WONDER TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER CURRIE IF SOME OF THE SOLUTION TO THAT OVER AND WE'RE TALKING A 25 YEAR TIME HORIZON MAYBE MORE DISTRIBUTED DISTRIBUTED PRODUCTION MEANING SOLAR ON HOMES EXAMPLE OR THINGS LIKE THAT AND I ALSO I BELIEVE IT'S IN FRONT OF THE UTILITIES COMMISSION NOW THAT XCEL IS LOOKING AT MOVING EVERYBODY TO A TIME OF GREAT USE WHICH AGAIN I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHEN MY DEHUMIDIFIER RUNS BUT IF I WAS PAYING A LOT MORE FROM 3 TO 7 I MIGHT FOR MY TEAM. BUT IF I WERE A TIMER AND I RUN IT FROM 3 TO 7 KIND OF THING IT'S ABOUT IT'S A LOT ABOUT I THINK HOW DO WE FOR SOME PEOPLE IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION AND THEY'LL DO IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT JUST BY KNOWING OTHER PEOPLE WILL BE LIKE I CAN'T THAT AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO I CAN'T AFFORD THAT AND FOR SOME PEOPLE A SMALL INCENTIVE MAY HELP AND I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF OF THAT ZERO. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC THAT IF WE CAN'T GET TO ZERO IT'S PRETTY DARN GOOD IF WE CAN GET TO 80% THAT'S JUST OPINION AND THE ELECTRIC CAR IS DONE CHARGING IT IS PUMPED. YES. COMMISSIONER COOKSON THANK MR. CHAIR. I THINK MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE A BIT IN ELOQUENT SO PLEASE ME I THINK MR. CHAIR WE ARE A LITTLE OVER OUR SKIS ON THIS. I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN ANYONE THAT SITS IN THE LUNCH WITH ME. I KNOW THIS A BIG BELIEVER THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT FOR A GOOD REASON. THERE'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOES HIGH LEVEL STUFF LIKE CURRENCY TAXES OR YOU KNOW MAYBE THE TAXES A STATE THING YOU HAVE MUNICIPAL THAT ARE LIKE CLOSE TO THE PEOPLE AND DO THINGS THAT AFFECT RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT. ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND I DON'T THINK DECARBONIZATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE DON'T THINK WE HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON IT. LET'S BE VERY CLEAR IT DECARBONIZATION IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I'M NOT MINIMIZING THE OVERALL EFFORT BUT I THINK IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO BE DONE BY HIGHER LEVELS GOVERNMENT WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK. THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S HIRED A CONSULTANT. WE'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK WELL THAT MEANS THE CITY OF RICHFIELD HAS TO HIRE SRF OR ANOTHER CONSULTANT. THE CITY DINER TO DO WITH SAVE PRAIRIE HAS TO DO THE CITY OF ERBIL E AND WHATEVER IS IT MAKE THE MOST SENSE AS MUNICIPALITIES WE'RE ALL HIRING CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THIS OR WOULD IT BE A LOT MORE APPROPRIATE IF THE STATE GOVERNMENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS LOOKING AT THESE THINGS ALSO THINGS LIKE THE EXCUSE ME THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF US ABOUT ELECTRIFICATION VEHICLES. WE WANT 65% IN THIS SCENARIO OF ALL VEHICLES WITH EVS THE CITY CAN INFLUENCE THAT. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CAR DEALERSHIPS HERE AND MAYBE WE COULD SAY WELL WE'RE JUST ONLY GOING TO SELL EVS IN BLOOMINGTON. WE'LL SO HE WANTS TO BUY A COMBUSTION CAR THEN THEY'LL DRIVE TO BURNSVILLE AND GET ONE. AND SO AGAIN I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON CAN'T CONTROL AND SO I APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. I THINK WELL INTENDED THIS REPORT WAS WELL DONE AND EVERYBODY'S WELL-INTENDED, PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT'S GREAT BUT I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN HERE THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO AND I'M SUPPORTIVE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE THINGS ALREADY. WE SHOULD BE DOWNSIZING A LOT OF OUR ROADS NEED TO GO ON A ROAD DIET HERE IN THE CITY AND THERE ARE THINGS IN THIS CITY WE CAN DO AND I THINK WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING FUTURE EFFORT ON THIS ON THINGS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WHAT CAN WE DO AS A CITY TO HELP OUT OUR ENVIRONMENT SO THINGS LIKE A ROAD DIET AND OTHER THINGS BUT AS FAR AS LIKE MAYBE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO TRAVEL LESS MILES OR HOPING THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY EVS, BUY SOMETHING WE CAN DO A CITY I, I THINK THAT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE OF OUR RESIDENTS TAX DOLLARS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO DO THIS AND I JUST DON'T I THINK THERE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT MUNICIPAL ISSUES WE CAN BE FOCUSED ON OUR FIRST APPLICATION TONIGHT THAT'S A MUNICIPAL THAT'S WHERE I WANT OUR REALLY SMART PEOPLE WORKING AND MAN I I JUST THINK OUR BRAINPOWER COULD BE SPENT ON THINGS THAN SOMETHING WE HAVE VERY, VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR GREAT WORK. I THINK THIS IS FANTASTIC LIKE IT'S REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. YOU'VE HELPED PAINT THE PICTURE BUT I JUST THINK THERE ARE BETTER THINGS WE COULD BE WORKING ON. MR. CURRY I JUST GOT SORRY. THANK YOU. CHAIR SO MY EARLIER COMMENT HOUSES YOU KNOW USING MAYBE FIVE KW ON AVERAGE I THINK THAT THE CHARGING STATIONS ARE MORE LIKE 50 KW RIGHT SO AT A HOME AT A AT A HOME 1111 OKAY. SO THE INDUSTRIAL OR THE LIKE THE TESLA CHARGING STATIONS 5250 350 YEAH. SO SO ANYWAYS I WAS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION AND I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT COMMISSIONER COOKED IN THE SCENE I THINK IT'S JUST A FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKING THINGS MORE FRIENDLY FOR BIKERS AND BIKERS TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THAT'S MY ONLY OBVIOUS SUGGESTION FOR THE DAY SO YEAH I THINK THERE'S I WOULD ECHO THE PART ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE BUT I THINK THERE IS A THERE'S A COMPONENT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THE COMPONENT IS. IT MIGHT NOT A BIG COMPONENT BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT SECURITY AT ABOUT FEDERAL, COUNTY, MUNICIPAL AND I THINK THERE'S A CREDIBILITY AND A TRUST FACTOR THAT PROBABLY IS STRONGER AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL. SO ARE WE GOING TO DICTATE WHAT PEOPLE DO AT THE CITY? OF COURSE NOT. BUT I THINK THE INFORMATION, THE EDUCATION THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRODUCE OR THE RESOURCES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE YOUR VENDORS OR WHAT ARE YOUR RESOURCES THAT MAY HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT THAN ANYTHING WE WOULD AS A CITY PUT IN PLACE AS A REGULATION OR THE YOU'RE RIGHT. THE THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN CHANGE ARE LIMITED. WE'VE WE'VE FOUND THAT IN OUR OWN WORK WHEN WE HAVE HAD TROUBLES GETTING METRO TRANSIT TO SERVE PARTS OF OUR CITY AND SO TRANSIT A BIG PART OF THE SOLUTION AND AS IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE BUT WE WE DON'T RUN OUR OWN TRANSIT SYSTEM I HOPE WE DON'T EVER DO THAT BUT WE ALSO ARE AT THE WHIM OF A PARTNER THAT IS TO DATE BEEN A LITTLE BIT UNRELIABLE. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN CAN'T CONTROL AND IN THE REALM OF HERE THE THINGS WE CAN CONTROL ARE PROBABLY PRETTY SLIM. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GROUP? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF BACKLOGGED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SYNOPSES FOR APPROVAL SO I TAKE THESE ONE AT A TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT MEMBERS PRESENT AT DIFFERENT MEETINGS. THE FIRST ONE IS NOVEMBER 30TH AND COMMISSIONER CURRIE WAS ABSENT WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND MOVE TO APPROVE THE PLANNING DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SYNOPSIS FROM NOVEMBER 30TH 2023 SECOND MOTION IS SECOND TO APPROVE NOVEMBER 30TH MEETINGS AND AFTER DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED ABSTAIN ABSTAIN MOTION PASSES THE NEXT ITEM IS DECEMBER 21ST ABSENT WAS MYSELF COMMISSIONER COOKTOWN COMMISSIONER CURRIE THAT DOES LEAVE THREE OF THE FOUR WHICH IS A QUORUM SO DECEMBER 21ST I MOVE TO THE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SYNOPSIS FROM DECEMBER FIRST 2023 SECOND MOTION THE SECOND TO APPROVE DECEMBER 21ST MEETING SYNOPSIS DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED ABSTAIN ABSTAIN MOTION PASSES NEXT JANUARY 18TH COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN WAS NOT PRESENT MR. GIBSON MR. CHAIR MOVED TO APPROVE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SYNOPSIS FROM JANUARY 18TH 2024 IS PRESENT SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE JANUARY 18TH MEETING SYNOPSIS FOR THE DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED ABSTAIN ABSTAIN. ALL RIGHT THAT PASSES FINALLY WE HAVE FEBRUARY 1ST. COMMISSIONER, I WAS NOT HERE AS WELL AS THAT COMMISSIONER MCGOVERN AND COMMISSIONER ISSA . YES. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SYNOPSIS FROM FEBRUARY 1ST 2020 FOR SECOND ALL RIGHT WE WILL MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING SYNOPSIS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN FAVOR SAY I I OPPOSED ABSTAIN ABSTAINED MOTION PASSES THIS BRINGS US TO ITEM FOUR WHICH IS OUR REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND THE PLANNING MANAGER HAS SOME GOOD A LOT INFORMATION FOR US AS JEROME AND COMMISSIONERS NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS MARCH 21ST WITH THREE ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA PUBLIC HEARING FOR A PRIVATELY INITIATED CITY CODE AMENDMENT THIS ONE RELATED TO TRASH FACILITIES AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING. SECONDLY, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR RIZZO AT 94TH AND LYNDALE ONE YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE STUDY MEETING EARLIER. AND THEN THIRD WE HAVE A STUDY ITEM FOR RESOLUTION HOUSING AS A HUMAN RIGHT THEN LOOKING FOR WEEKS OUT TO APRIL 4TH I HAVE ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA. WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A BUILDING MODIFICATIONS AND ADDITION AT 7840 COMPUTER AVENUE AND THAT COMES WITH A PLANT AS WELL. SECONDLY A PUBLIC FOR A NEW PART BUILDING BRYANT PARK THIRD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FLEXIBILITY ESSENTIALLY AT 5600 AMERICAN BOULEVARD IT'S FOR A SUNSHADE AND THEN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON PLANT TO SUBDIVIDE PROPERTY AT 6701 WITH 78TH STREET THAT'S ENCLAVE DEVELOPMENT YOU RECENTLY APPROVED SO THIS IS THE PLAT COMING BACK FOR THAT AND THEN FINALLY STUDY DOWN FOR REVIEW OF THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT 700 AMERICAN BOULEVARD WEST. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON UPCOMING AGENDAS. SECONDLY, I WANT TO INTRODUCE A NEW STAFF MEMBER DAKOTA CROWE CROWELL IS HERE AND DAKOTA IS JOINING US FROM THE CITY OF RAPIDS. HE WILL BE A PLANNER, A PLANNER FOCUSED ON DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DAKOTA HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. WELCOME TO THE CITY. THANKS. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL SO THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU THEN? ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE LIKE TO BRING UP AT THIS TIME? NO. ALL RIGHT. SEEING THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL MARCH 21ST