>>COUN. LEWIS: THE 11th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. I BELIEVE COUNCILOR PEÑA WILL BE JOINING US ONLINE, ON ZOOM. WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. GROUT: GOOD EVENING. WE WILL BE PROVIING SIMULTANEOUS SPANISH INTERPRETATION FOR THIS MEETING. WHEN THE SETTING GETS TURNED ON, YOU SHOULD BE SEE A GLOBE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SCREEN OR POSSIBY THREE DOTS IF YOU'RE AN OMOBILE DEVICE. CLICK TO CHOOSE YOUR LANGUAGE OF PREFERENCE. PRESENTERS OR HOSTS PLEASE CHOOSE ENGLISH SO YOU HEAR WHEN COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ARE BEING INTERPRETEDED INTO ENGLISH. PLEASE SPEAK OR READ AT REASONABLE PLACE. INTERPRETATION DOES NOT WORK IF YOU'RE CALLING IN USING A PHONE LINE. WE HAVE MANY IN ATTENDANCE SO WE ASK AEVEN FIND A SEAT. IF A SEAT IS NOT AVAILABLE -- >> MADP -- MADAM VICE-CHAIR, LET THE INTERPRETER SAY WHAT YOU'RE READING. [ SPANISH TRANSLATION ] . >>COUN. GROUT: WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT, SO WE ASK EVERYONE TO FIND A SEAT. IF A SEAT IS UNAVAILABLE YOU CAN OBSERVE THE MEETING FROM THE LOBBY OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS. THOSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BEABLY TO HEAR THEIR NAME CALLED AND BE ALLOWED INTO THE CHAMBER FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES FOR PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN ONE AT THE COUNCIL STAFF NEAR THE CHAMBER ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABOUT TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON AND ON LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16. THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THP COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 TO # 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7 P.M. THIS EVENING. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS OR NO APPLAUSE OR OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, AGAIN, EVERYBODY DOES NEED TO HAVE A SEAT IN THE CHAMBERS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SEAT THERE ARE SOME AVAILABLE. IF YOU CAN'T FIND A SEAT YOU NEED TO GO IN THE LOBBY AND LOOK ON THE MONITORS AND SEE IF YOU'RE UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE AND HEAR THE MEETING FROM THERE. THANK YOU, AGAIN. ACCORD TO THE FIRE MARSHAL WHO REGULATES AND CONTROLS THIS ROOM. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM THREE WHICH IS PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATION. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE HAVE A PRESENT AZATION FROM DONNA, REBECCA, AND THE CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY JOSH BOON, AND DAEP DEPITARY DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THIS TEAM WAS FUNDED BY COUNCIL FOR SECOND OFL HALF OF FISC AND WE JUST WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAM. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING OUR OFFICE. I'M THE DEPUTY OF POLICY AT THE D.A.'S OFFICE. BEFORE I HAND IT OFF TO OUR WONDERFUL TEAM HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR OFFICE AND ESPECIALLY D.A. BREGMAN FOR YOUR GENEROSITY AND SUPPORT FOR THIS TEAM TO STAY COMMITTED TO FIGHTING FOR SURVIVORS. THANK YOU. >> OUR TEAM CONSISTS OF MYSELF, TRIAL ATTORNEYS AT D.A.'S OFFICE, AND OTHER SENIOR TRIAL ATTORNEYS AND VICTIM ADVOCATE. OUR PROSECUTION SPECIALIST IS UNABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT SHE'S VICTORIA MARTINEZ. WE EFFECTIVELY PROSECUTE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES, AND PROVIDE EXPERTISE TO TRAIN PROSECUTORS AND SUPPORT STAFF TO PROVIDE HOLISTIC SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS. THROUGH THAT SUPPORT, WE STILL MAKE THE DECISIONS WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE A CASE, IF THE SURVIVOR IS UNCOOPERATIVE WE'LL STILL PROSECUTE THE CASE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. IN ADDITION TO CARRYING OUR OWN CASELOAD WE ALSO SCREEN A GREAT PORTION OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES THAT COME THROUGH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE DO THAT THROUGH IDENTIFYING CASES THROUGH FELONY FIRST APPEARANCE AND GETTING REFERRALS FROM OTHER DISTRICT ATTORNEYS. WE'RE LOOKING FOR PROBLEM OFFENDERS AND POSSIBY EVIDENCE-BASED PROSECUTION CASES WHICH IS CASUS WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE VICTIM TESTIFYING. AND SO, HAVING SPECIALIZED KNOWLEDGE IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE LOOKING OVER AND ABOVE WHAT A GENERAL CRIME D.A. DOES. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE BEAR BONES. WHAT DO I NEED TO PROVE THIS CASE. WITH OUR EXPERIENCE WE'RE IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE THAT CAN CORROBORATE WHAT THE VICTIM'S SAYING OBTHE STAND. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 911 CALLS. WE'RE SEEING IF WE CAN -- WE'RE LISTENING TO JAIL CALLS. WE'RE IDENTIFYING ADDITIONAL WITNESSES INCLUING FAMILY MEMBERS THAT THEY MADE THEIR FIRST STATEMENTS TO. NEIGHBORS WHO HEARD SOMETHING COLLECTING SURVEILLANCE VIDEO. WE'RE INNOVATIVE APPROACHES. WE'RE LOOKING AT CAN WE GO ON THIS CASE WITHOUT THE SURVIVOR. IF IT COMES TO THAT. DO WE A WRONGDOING MOTION WHERE THE DEFENDANT WAS INFLUENCE THE VICTIM NOT TO MAKE A STATEMENT. CAN WE USE THE STATEMENT THEY MADE TO POLICE AT THE TRIAL. WE'RE ALSO FILING MOTIONS AND DRAFTING ORDERS SPECIFICALLY FOR MEDICAL RECORDS WHICH CAN BE GREAT EVIDENCE IN THESE CASES. SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THEY MADE MEDICAL PROVIDERS CAN COME IN AND HAD THEY EXAM AND CAN CAN WE GET THAT TESTIMONY AND ANYTHING TO CORROBORATE WHAT HAPPENS. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOWER CASE LOAD WE'RE ABLE TO INCORPORATE SURRIVER INSIGHT AND PERSPECTIVES INTO THE CASE RESOLUTION. WHAT DOES JUSTICE LOOK LIKE. DOES IT PROVIDE PROBATION AND TREATMENT OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TREATMENT OR IT JUSTICE FOR THEM JAIL TIME. WE CAN SPEND TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEST FOR THEIR FAMILY AND MOVE FORWARD IN THAT WAY. WE ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESSES THUS FAR. WITH THE PROGRAM. MANUEL BARRA, THIS INDIVIDUAL MADE A JUDGE FINDING THAT HE WAS DARNELS. HE HAD AGGRAVATED STALKING CASES. INITIALLY THE JUDGE MADE A DETERMINATION HE WAS DANGEROUS AND HELD HIM IN CUSTODY, HE THEN CONTACTED AND INFLUENCES THE VICTIM IN THAT CASE TO ASK THE JUDGE TO RELEASE HIM. ONCE HE WAS RELEASED HE CONTINUED WITH THE BEHAVIOR AND CONTINUED TO CONTACT HER AND THREATEN HER. WE WERE ABLE TO FILE A MOTION TO REVIEW HIS CONDITIONS OF RELEASE TO GET IT REVOKED. AT THE HEARING HE DID NOT APPEAR AND CUT OFF THE GPS MONITOR THE COURT GIVEN HIM. WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN OUR CRIME STRATEGIES UNIT WITH OUR OFFICE ONCE THAT WARRANT WAS ISSUED AND THEY PAIRED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO GET HIM INTO CUSTODY, NOT A PEND WARRANT BUT THEY LOOKED FOR HIM. THEY PINGED HIS PHONE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE HIM INTO CUSTODY. ONCE IN CUSTODY, HE CONTINUED TO MAKE JAIL CALLS TO OTHER PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET THEM TO ASSAULT THE VICTIM. HE HAD OTHEREME CONTACT HER TO THREATEN HER TO ANSWER HIS CALLS. WE WERE ABLE TO INVEST A LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO THE JAIL CALLS, CATALOGING THEM AND TRANSCRIBING THEM AND FILING ANOTHER MOTION WITH THE JUDGE. GETTING HER TO REVOKE HER PHONE PRIVILEGES ALTOGETHER. BECAUSE BLOCKING HER NUMBER WASN'T ENOUGH. HE COULDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGES BECAUSE HE WAS USING THEM TO GET HER NOT TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE CASE. AT THIS POINT WE HAVE A CASE GOING FORWARD. A VICTIM NOT COOPERAING WITH PAST PROSECUTIONS. HE WAS STILL CONTACTING HER AND STILL THREATENING HER. ANOTHER THING IN THAT CASE AND WE'RE ABLE TO FILE ADDITIONAL WITNESS INTIMIDATION AND STALKING CHARGES FOR HIS BEHAVIOR WHILE HE WAS IN CUSTODY WHILE THE CASE WAS PENDING. OUR SUCCESS IS MATTHEW PADILLA. I WAS ABLE TO SECOND CHAIR OUR CASE WITH A PROSECUTOR WHO NEVER DONE A FELONY CASE BEFORE AND WAS NEW TO THE DIVISION. AND WORKED WITH HIM THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET A GUILTY VERDICT ON AN INDIVIDUAL WHO BROKE INTO HIS EX-WIFE'S HOME WITH A GUN AND HELD HER HOSTAGE AND THREATENED TO KILL HER AND HIMSELF AND BATTERED HER WITH THE GUN AS WELL. >> HERE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS. I'M PUTTING THEM OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER. WE HAVE DISCUSSED WHAT ELSE IS IMPORTANT TO US. ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS TO ASSIST SURVIVORS WITH RESTRAINING ORDER HEARINGS. WE LIKE TO GO TO THE HEARING SO WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE WITH THEM. WE FILE THE FIREARM PROTECTION ACT PETITIONS AND WE HAVE A HEARING IN ONE OF THOSE GOING FOR THE BENCOMO CASE. THE MAN WHO SHOT HIS STEPMOTHER AT THE GRADUATION. WE HAVE A HEARING IN THAT CASE. I BELIEVE, TOMORROW. WE LIKE TO HIRE AN AGENT TO CONDUCT FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATIONS. WE'RE ABLE TO USE OUR CRIME STRATEGIES UNIT FOR THE CASE. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN AGENT JUST FOR OUR CASES SO WE HAVE THEM TO ASSIST US IN ALL OF THE INVESTIGATIONS. WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION WE LEARNED AT THE CONFERENCES, THE D.A.'S OFFICE AND PARTNERS. OUR DEPARTMENT SENT US TO THE END VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE IN APRIL AND WE LEARNED, WE'RE BOMBARDED WITH GREAT IDEAS WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK AND TEACH TO THE PARTNERS AND TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE STAFF AND PROSECUTORS. WE WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY RESOURCES. ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY RESOURCES FOR SURVIVORS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE EVIDENCE-BASED PROSECUTION SO THAT ALL OF OUR PROSECUTIONS ARE NOT SURVIVOR LED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WHAT THIS PRESENTATION SHOULD JUST SHOW IS WITH THIS COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IN FUNDING, WE ARE NOT TAKING THE STATUS QUO APPROACH OR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW WAYS TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW THAT OUR OFFICE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, PUT SEE CERTAINLY CAN HELP SURVIVORS IN THIS AREA. SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE VICE-PRESIDENT FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT ON THIS. WHEN WE SAY WE TRY NEW TACTICS, WE ARE. WE'RE HAVING EXPERTS IN THIS AREA REALLY LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM AND COME WITH NEW SOLUTIONS AND BETTER IDEAS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN THIS AREA. AND I KNOW ALL THE SURVIVORS THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A COMMENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AS YOU KNOW I'M RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHO DEALT WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE A LOT. I KNOW IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE SURVIVORS TO COME FORWARD BASED ON THREATS AND IN INTIMIDATION THEY FACE IN ALL FORMS. I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH EVIDENCE-BASED PROSECUTION BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND NOT FORGOTP. -- FORGOTTEN. THERE'S TIMES WHEN THE SURVIVORS ARE OUT THERE AND BEING HURT AND ABUSED AND THEY HAVE NO WAY OUT, AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN PROVIDE IS TESTIMONY. IF THE OFFICER CAN COLLECT EVIDENCE NEED FOR THE PROSECUTION, AND THE PROSECUTION CAN BE TAKEN TO THE FULLEST I WOULD 100% APPLAUDOUT. THROUGHOUT MY CAREER WE HAD ISSUES WITH INDIVIDUALS NOT BEING PROSECUTED BECAUSE OF LACK OF VICTIM-INVOLVEMENT. WE KNOW THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE. BECAUSE THE VICTIMS FEEL INTIMIDATED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW THAT THIS TEAM IS RELATIVELY NEW. ABOUT THREE MONTHS YOU'RE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER. I KNOW THESE TWO SUCCESSES ARE ALREADY A TESTAMENT TO WHAT HAS BEEN NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUED FUNDING AND HELPING THE COMMUNITY AND FOLKS IN THESE SITUATIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, LET ME MEFRP THAT ANY -- LET ME MENTION THAT ANY BANNERS OR POSTERS LARGER THAN EIGHT AND A HALF BY ELEVEN. IF -- THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED. BANNERS AND POSTERS, REMOVE THOSE. AT SOME POINT YOU MAY BE ASKED TO LEAVE IF YOU HAVE THOSE. YOU CAN'T OBSTRUCT ANYBODY'S VIEW. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. THIS IS OUR ADMIN Q&A. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY HAPPY PRIDE MONTH TO EVERYBODY. I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT IT'S PRIDE MONTH. IT'S MY FAVORITE MONTH OF THE YEAR. SO MANY FUN OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE OUR INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. I'VE ALREADY BEEN TO ONE AND I PLAN TO GO TO MANY MORE. MY QUESTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION IS GIVEN THAT IT'S PRIDE MONTH CAN YOU GIVE US A RUNDOWN OF ALL OF THE EVENTS HAPPENING AND HOW FOLKS CAN GET INVOLVED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT IS A GREAT MONTH. JUNE IS ALWAYS ONE OF MY FAVORITE MONTHS AS WELL. I THINK THAT WE HAVE DON FROM OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. THEY CAN GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS THIS MONTH FOR CELEBRATION OF OUR PRIDE COMMUNITY. >> COUNCILORS, BEFORE WE GO OVER THE EVENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN OVER TO PEAT -- PETE TO GIVE US BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRIDE FLAG BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE EVENT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S MY HONOR TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS TONIGHT. THIS IS OUR MOST CURRENT VERSION OF OUR PROGRESSIVE PRIDE FLAG. IT'S GONE THROUGH VARIOUS STAGES THANKS TO GILBERT BAKER. IT STARTED WITH JUST THE RAINBOW FLAG. AND A YEAR LATER BECAUSE OF PRODUCTION ISSUES, IT WAS CHANGED TO JUST THE COLOR THAT YOU SEE. JUST THE RAINBOW OF THE COLOR. LATER ON, THE BIPOC REPRESENTATION AND TRANS COMMUNITY WAS ADDED. NOW, WE HAVE THE YELLOW WITH PURPLE CIRCLES AND THAT IS INCLUSIVE WITH THE INTERSEX COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE JOURNEY OF PROGRESS TOWARD EQUALITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT I WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY PRIDE MONTH. WE REALLY WANT TO HONOR DIVERSITY, CREAING A SPACE FOR BELONGING, BUT ALSO IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT UPLIFT AND CELEBRATE THE VOICES OF OUR LGBTQIA2S-PLUS COMMUNITY. AND WITH THE CELEBRATION I WANT TO SHARE THAT OEI WILL HOST THE RAISING PRIDE ON CIVIC PLAZA WHICH IS AN EVENT THIS FRIDAY ON JUNE 7th STARTING AT 10 A.M. AND WE ALSO ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ALBUQUERQUE PRIDE PARADE ON SATURDAY JUNE 8th STARTING AT 10 O'CLOCK AND PETE WILL ALSO GO THROUGH A LIST OF OTHER COMMUNITY SUPPORTED EVENTS WE HAVE. WE DO HAVE A HUGE RUNNING LIST ON OUR WEBSITE. IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT IT'S CABQ.GOV/OEI. IF YOU ALSO WANT TO SHARE YOUR EVENTS THAT ARE NOT POSTED ON THERE PLEASE EMAIL THEM TO US AND WE CAN INCLUDE IT AND WE'RE GOING TO START TO SEND OUT NEWS LETTERS WITH ALL OF THE EVENTS HAPPENING. I WANT TO DO A QUICK RUNTHROUGH OF SOME OF THE OTHER EVENTS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT, I AM ALSO YOUR FORMER MR. NEW MEXICO PRIDE 2015. I AM THE ALBUQUERQUE PRIDE FORMER SECRETARY. I'M ALSO A FOUNDING MEMBER OF ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION PRIDE CIRCLE. TONIGHT ADD 6 -- AT 6 O'CLOCK WE'LL HAVE SILVER FEST WHICH IS REPRESENTING 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITIES. IT'S NOT EXCLUDED TO ALL AGES. IT'S THINGS RECOGNIZED WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. TOMORROW IS KIDS FEST. THAT WILL BE GEARED TOWARD KIDS. WEDNESDAY IS SHE FEST. THAT'S FEMALE IDENTIFYING. THURSDAY IS CANDLE LIGHT INDIVIDUAL. IT'S MEMORIAL TO PEOPLE WE LOST TO HIV. FRIDAY IS PRE-FEST. THAT'S IN LINE WITH GETTING THE BALLOON FIESTA SET UP. IT'S FREE TO THE PUBLIC. AND SATURDAY MORNING WILL BE THE PRIDE PARADE WHICH IS FROM GIRARD TO SAN METEO. AFTER THAT IT WILL BE AT THE BALLOON FIESTA. IT WILL BE THE SECOND YEAR FOR THIS. AT THE END OF THE PRIDE FEST AT THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK WE HOPE THAT IT WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST-EVER HOT AIR BALLOON PRIDE SHOWS IN THE WORLD. SUNDAY IS THE FIRST-EVER BIPOC BRUNCH. THE LOCATION IS TO BE DETERMINED WHEN THE BOARD ANNOUNCES THAT. AND THAT'S OUR RUN THROUGH OF WHAT WE HAVE THIS WEEK. THANK YOU. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? >> WE HAVE THE NEW FLAG FOR ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I DEFINITELY NEED A NEW FLASH. -- FLAG. MY FLAG DOES NOT HAVE THE INTER SEX FLAG. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO THE PARADE AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS. MYSELF AND MY DOGS ARE READY WITH OUR OUTFITS. A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION WHILE THEY PASS THAT OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE WERE AT AN EVENT WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GROUT, LAST WEEK, AND WE SAW SOME CLEANING UP AT ONE OF THE TRANSIT STOPS. AND I GOT SOME REPORTS THAT THERE WAS A VOLUNTEER WEEKEND THIS WEEKEND TO TALK ABOUT CLEANING UP OUR TRANSIT STOP. I JUST WANTED TO GET THE LATEST ON THAT AND WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT ON COUNCIL. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE. CAN YOU LET US IN ON IT? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE HAVE LEZLY TO SPEAK ABOUT EVERYTHING TODAY. THIS MORNING WAS EXCITING AND I'M SURE HER EXCITEMENT IS GOING TO SHOW AGAIN AT 5 O'CLOCK. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M GLAD THAT YOU GOT TO SEE A PART OF ALL THE CLEAN UP ACTION GOING ON WITH OUR VOLUNTEERS. THIS PAST SATURDAY WE HELD THE ADOPT A STOP COMMUNITY BUS CLEAN UP EVENT. IT WAS IN THE MORNING AND WE HAD STAFF AND 30 VOLUNTEERS WHICH IS TWICE THE AMOUNT WE HAD IN YEARS PAST. THEY WERE HELPING TO CLEAN UP BUS STOPS ON SENT CENTRAL. THEY WENT ALL THE WAY OUT TO TRAMWAY. THEY PICKED UP 1100 POUNDS OF TRASH DURING THAT TIME. THAT IS ACTUALLY DOWN OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS TOO. WHICH IS ALSO EXCITING NEWS BECAUSE I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE WORK OUR BUS STOP MAINTAINERS HAVE BEEN DOING HERE ON A REGULAR BASIS TO EPISURE THE CORRIDOR IS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE. IT WAS REALLY EXCITING. AGAIN WE HAVE AN ADOPT A STOP PROGRAM AS WELL OUTSIDE OF JUST THE ANNUAL CLEAN UP WE HAVE IN WHICH ONE ALBUQUERQUE VOLUNTEERS HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING A STOP. THE PROGRAM IS RUNNING SINCE 2018. WE HAVE OVER 53 VOLUNTEERS FOR 7 78 OVER -- THAT'S INCLUDED PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEERED TO ADOPT THE ART PLATFORMS. WE HAVE SIX ADOPTED. I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK OUR VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR. WAYNE BAKER. HE FOUNDED THE PROGRAM AND HAS BEEN RUNNING WITH IT SINCE 2018. HE DOES AN AMAING JOB MAKING SURE OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND HAVE THE MATERIALS THEY NEED TO KEEP THE BUS STOPS CLEAN. THAT'S JUST ONE EVENT. AND OBVIOUSLY THE VOLUNTEERS ARE PART OF IT. ALSO INTERNALLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT WE'RE CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON THE CLEANLINESS OF OUR TRANSIT NETWORK. I'M HOPING YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THE EFFORTS COMING INTO PLAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDERWAY OF PAINTING ALL OF THE SHELTERS WHICH IS REALLY A COOL THING, I THINK. THEY LOOK SO MUCH BETTER. WE'VE GOT 122 OF THEM PAINTED. AND WE SHOULD BE AS WE APPROACH THE FALL COMPLETING THE PAINT ING OF ALL OF THOSE. THE BUS STOP SIGNS THAT ARE FADED AND HARD TO TELL THAT THEY'RE A BUS STUP, WE'RE -- BUS STOP. WE'RE REPLACING THOSE. WE TRIED TO DO THESE ON A LARGE SCALE PUT WE HAD A HARD TIME. WE HAD TO BREAK IT UP INTO SECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT. ERR DOING THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR. WE'RE 99% COMPLETE THERE. WE HAVE A COUPLE LEFT OVER. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF FABRICATION FOR THE SAN MATEO AND JEFFERSON ROUTE AND MENAUL AND DOWNTOWN SIGNS AND WE'LL GO TO RFP TO DO THE REST OF THE SYSTEMS. AND OUR BUS STOP PEOPLE ARE PUTTING UP THE SIGNS. OUR ART PLATFORMS. I BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY COOL WE JUST STARTED AN EPOXY PROGRAM. WE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE COATING OF THE FLOOR IS HIPOXY. WE HAVE THOSE DONE THROUGH JULY. THE NICE THING IS THEY'RE A LOT EASIER TO CLEAN. AND WE'LL PUT DETAILS ON THEM AND A CLEAR COAT AND THEY SHOULD MAKE THE STATIONS POP MUCH BETTER. A LOT OF GOOD THINGS AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK THAT WE'RE ALSO REALLY SEEING SOME GOOD THINGS ON THE VEHICLE FLEET AND CLEANLINESS. WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BUS WASHER ON THE LAST LEG. WE ARE DOING REHABILITATION ON THAT. WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR WE BROUGHT ON THAT HELP COME ON-SITE AND CLEAN THE BUSES SO THEY LOOK MUCH BETTER. WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE VEHICLE SERVICE STRAF INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY AND THAT HELPS THE INTERIOR OF THE BUS GET CLEANED. WE CUT THE DAYS BETWEEN DETAILS IN HALF OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS WHICH IS REALLY HELPING US AS WELL. AND OUR PARK AND RIDE. THE LIGHTING, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FIXING THE LIGHTING. THAT'S JUST ABOUT COMPLETE. WE PAINTED THE UPTOWN TRANSIT CENTER AND TODAY OR TOMORROW THEY'LL BE CLEANING THE TRANSIT CENTER. THOSE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS. I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO MAKE THE TRANSIT CENTER AND THE SYSTEM FRIENDLY, USABLE, CLEAN FOR OUR PATRONS THAT USE IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE EPOXY AND THE NEW SIGNAGE. I HAVE A COUPLE STOPS IN MY AREA THAT I SEND SOMEONE TO AND THEY CAN'T FIND BECAUSE THEY'RE SO OLD. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING NEWS. THANK YOU FOR CLEANING THOSE STOPS UP AND MAKING THEM MORE USER-FRIENDLY. I APPRECIATE IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT, THANKS. Q&A, IF YOU HAVE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, SCHEDULE THEM AND LET ME KNOW. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO ASK MR. MOROW. LAST MEETING WE WENT OVER THE OBJECTIVES FOR FY25. I WAS LOOK AT FY24. I NOTICED THERE WERE SEVERAL OBJECTIVES THAT WE DIDN'T PUT INTO THIS YEAR. WE ALSO PUT A LOT OF OBJECTFES INTO THE FY25 BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T COMPLETED IN 24. MY QUESTION IS SOME OF THESE OBJECTIVES REQUIRE REPORTS. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE THROUGH EEC. COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ANY REPORTS THAT ARE PAST DUE OR IF YOU RECEIVED ANYTHING, HOW DO WE STACK UP? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, LAST YEAR IN FY24 THE BUDGETS INCLUDED LEPTY LENGTHY LIST OF OBJECTIVES. BUT THE REPORTS REQUIRED WERE REPORT ON TRANSIT DEPARTMENT EFFORT TO TRANSITION TO ALL ZERO EMISSION BUSES BY 2040. THE OBJECTIVE TO PRIORITIZE AND COMMENCE THE COMPLETION OF THE CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDY FROM HR TO BE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL BY THE THIRD QUARTER OF FY24. ALSO OBJECTIVE 15 WHICH WAS THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION SHOULD PROVIDE MEASUREMENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY24 AND QUARTERLY UPDATES MOVING FORWARD. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDY HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL. AND I DO BELIEVE THE INITIAL REPORT PROVIDED BY OEI TO PROVIDE THE MEASUREMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL WAS PROVIDED BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUARTERLY REPORTS WERE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW FISCAL YEAR ISN'T OVER. THERE'S STILL TIME. WHEN WE CREATE A RESOLUTION AND SO FORTH, I HOPE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. AND SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE REPORTS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THE ONE REPORT SUBMITTED BY OEI I LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S A BLANK REPORT. THERE'S NOTHING OPIT. ON IT. THAT IS HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RECEIVING THE INFORMATION. JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER. THERE ARE -- AGAIN THERE ARE ALSO SOME OBJECTIVES -- OBJECTIVE 16. DID WE CORT MADE THE PARK RANGER PSA PROGRAM? I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DID. DID WE CLUP DEVELOP A PLAN FOR COORDINAING GATE CLOSURE AND OPENINGS FOR SECURITY? DID WE TRAIN 300 EMPLOYEES AND 100 BUSINESSES THROUGH GTA? THOSE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS. HAVE WE IMPROVED DRIVR HIING AND RETENTION. AGAIN, WHEN WE DEVELOP THESE, WE CALL FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING LIP SERVICE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT. JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE REPORTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COM. BENSON: MR. PRESIDENT, I DIDN'T . >>COUN. BASSAN: I WANT AN UPDATE WHAT IS THE STATUS OF HIING A NEW PERMANENT AUDITOR? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I WILL GET THAT ANSWER FOR YOU BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >>COM. BENSON: WE'VE HAD AN -- >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAD SEVERAL REPORTS PREPARED OR READY TO BE SENT. I HEARD THE TRANSIT REPORT IS READY. IN TERMS OF ANNUAL UPDATE RELATED TO THE PROGRESS I KNOW THAT WORK OF COMPILING OF THE OUTCOMES IS BEING WORKED ON. WE INTEND TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COM. BENSON: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS IN REPLY TO MY QUESTION ABOUT INTERNAL AUDIT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING HERE LATE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. I HAD DISCUSSION WITH THE CHAIR OF A.G. O. THEY HAVE APPLICATIONS AND GOING THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS AND PROCESS RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA, YOU DON'T -- COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON TRANSIT. MY QUESTION IS SPECIFIC TO TRANSIT. A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS ARE REACHING OUT IN MY DISTRICT ABOUT BENCHES AND SEATING BEING TAKE-UP OUT OF BUS STOPS. I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE CLEANING THEM AND WE'RE GETTING NICE SIGNAGE. I'M EXTREMELY WORRIED ABOUT THE 8,000 OR SO TRANSIT DEPENDENT PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT. A LOT OF THEM ARE SENIORS WHO WHEN I DRIVE BY ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR CANES AND THINGS NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A SEAT. CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH REMOVING BENCHES IN MY DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY? I DON'T SEE THIS HAPPENING IN OTHER DISTRICTS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE HAVE REMOVED TWO OF OUR SHELTERS IN OUR DISTRICT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THOSE WERE DUE TO VANDALLISM. WE HAVE PLANS TO COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT SHELTERS. I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. WE'RE PILOTING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TEST SHELTERS AT THE MOMENT. AND THEN JUST EVEN THE ROUTE 66 CORRIDOR AS WELL. WE GATHER A PLAN TO GO THROUGH AND FACILITATE AND PUT IN SOME NEW SHELTERS IN THAT AREA. >>COUN. ROGERS: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER ON THE ONES THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT -- SHELTERS IS ONE THING, BUT SEATING, THERE ARE SEVERAL BUS STOPS THAT DON'T HAVE A SHELTER BUT HAVE A BENCH. CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION FOR OUR SENIORS WAITING AT OUR BUS STOP? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, REACH OUT TO ME AND WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. >>COUN. ROGERS: PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL WITH DATES AND TIMES YOU'RE AVAILABLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 20 JOURNAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. FOR APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: GO TO COMMUNICATION AND INTRODUCTIONS. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR PEÑA. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-62 ON TONIGHT'S JAEPD AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S PROVING AND AUTHORIING THE FILING OF GRANT APPLICATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF GRANT AWARD AND PROVIING APPROPRIATION TO THE DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 AND 27. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. THIS IS SUSPENDING THE RULES. DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? CALL THE ROLL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT PASSES 7'-2. >>COUN. BACA: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-62 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S ASSIGNING FUNDS FROM THE SALE OF CORONADO DOG PARK PROPERTY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PLACING OF R-61 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S MAKING FILING CONNECTION WITH THE ASPIRE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ISSANCE AND SALE OF LEVY REVENUE BONDS. I'LL STOP THERE, IT'S QUITED QUITE LENGTHY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. NEEDS TWO-THIRDS TO PASS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR INTRODUCING O-30 AND REFERRING IT TO FGO. AMENDING SECTION 9-THROUGH 16 ORDINANCE TO CREATE A HEART ORDINANCE FUND AND EXCLUSIVELY TO THE ANIMAL WELFARE DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE OUR COUNCIL DIRECTOR WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS WAS NOT PUT ON THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. I DID SUBMIT A WEEK BEFORE THE DEADLINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PADILLA. >> I APOLOGIZE, THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON TIME. IT SHOULD APPEAR ON THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IS WORKING WITH COUNCIL STAFF TO IDENTIFY A NEW PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT DUPT HAPPEN -- DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. WE MADE AN ERROR. WE WILL CORRECT IT. I APOLOGIZE. SDMRL MOVED . >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. THIS IS O-30. RULESES SUSPENSION. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE LETTER? MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. FOR APPROVAL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. ANY DEFERRALS AT THIS TIME? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NONE. CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO PULL OFF EC-141 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S REVENUE AND EXPENSE REPORT FOR SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2024. I'D ALSO LIKE TO PULL OFF O-19 OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT'S AMENDING THE 2023 UNIFORM ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND TECHNICAL CODE FOR PRESCRIBING MINIMUM STANDARDS REGULATING ENERGY CONSERATION BY REPLACING THE 218 INTERNATIONAL CONSERVATION GOAD WITH 2021 NEW MEXICO ENERGY CONSERATION CODE AND 2021 RESIDENTIAL CODE AND ADDING MINORCHARGE TO THE -- MINOR CHANGE TO THE CODE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY WE'LL TAKE THOSE OFF THE CONSENT. ANY OTHERS? I WANT TO MENTION INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT VOLUNTEERING FOR THE BOARD AND COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR SERVING. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS FOR APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALSO I JUST WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CONSENT WAS THE I.D.O. AMENDMENTS. THOSE WILL BE HEARD ON JUNE 17th OF THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. WE'LL HEAR THE I.D.O. AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. EC-141 TALKS ABOUT THE SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR EXPENSE AND REVENUE REPORT. THERE'S A FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE OVER BUDGET. I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE US A QUICK HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WAS OVER. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAD A COUPLE NOTICEABLE LINE ITEMS AND A COUPLE DEPARTMENTS. THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO POINT OUT IS 27-0004 WHICH IS THE AFR EMERGENCY RESPONSE/FIELD OPERATIONS. CURRENTLY, THEY'RE $7.6 MILLION OVER BUDGET FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER REPORT. AND SECONDLY, IN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER 24-00012 MUNICIPAL STREET SERVICES FUND 110 THEY'RE$4.5 MILLION OVER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER REPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. FOR ADMINISTRATION, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THESE OVERANCES ARE FOR? WE JUST NEED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT GROUT, WHEN WE SPOKE EAIER TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT TWO ITEMS. WE TALKED ABOUT ENCUMBRANCE REPORT THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE DID SPEAK TO THE SECOND QUARTER REPORT. THE SECOND QUARTER REPORT IS AN ESTIMATE. OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE ESTIMATING WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN WITH SPENDING. OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE VERY CONSERVATIVE MEANING THEY PUT, LIKE YOU HEARD DURING THE BUDGET HEARING, THEY PUT THE ENTIRE KITCHEN SINK IN THERE. WE HAVE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR EXPENDITURES AND ALSO ANTICIPATE HIGH EXPENDITURES. HAVING SAID THAT, WE WILL NOTE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENCUMBRANCE REPORT, THE REPORT WE'RE RELEASING ROUGHLY $12 MILLION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SKWEKD SECOND QUARTER REPORT WE'RE OVER BY $12 MILLION. WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY KEPT WITH THE TWO REPORTS WITH SOME THROTTING OR CONTROL OF WHAT ENCUMBRANCES WE RELEASED. WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE GENERAL FUND WHOLE FOR THE MOST PART. AS WE ANTICIPATE -- IF WE ANTICIPATE THE -- I GUESS I'M TOO CLOSE THIS TIME. IF WE ANTICIPATE THE EXPENDITURES BEING WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING THEM AT RIGHT NOW. WE LOOK TO BE WHOLE BETWEEN THE TWO REPORTS. I WILL SAY THE DEPARTMENTS DID NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ENCUMBRANCES COMING DOWN. WE'RE HOLDING THOSE. WE NORMALLY RELEASE THOSE EARLIER. STRATEGICALLY WE HOLD TOON ON TO THOSE. WE WENT INTO A TIGHT BUDGET CYCLE. WE'RE ANTICIPAING REVENUES BEING DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE HOLDING ON TO THE ENCUMBRANCES AND MADE THE DEPARTMENT LOOK HARD INTO THEIR BUDGET. THEY DIDN'T ANTICIPATE ANY ENCUMBRANCES. AS WE RELEASED THE $12 MILLION IN ENCUMBRANCES MANY OVERAGES OR MANY OF THE NEGATIVES IN THE DEPARTMENTS WILL FLUSH OUT AND OVERALL $12 MILLION WE RIGHT NOW ANTICIPATE BEING WHOLE. AND AGAIN, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS WHAT IS PRESENTED IN THAT SECOND QUARTER BUDGET PROJECTION. WE ALWAYS COME IN A LITTLE BETTER THAN WHAT WE ESTIMATE. AS FAR AS FIRE SPENDING WE HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ADDITIONAL COSTS. BUT THEY ARE MORE FULLY STAFFED THAN THEY EVER HAVE BEEN. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IN THAT SITUATION FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. WE KNOW MEDICAL SUPPLY COSTS ARE GOING UP AS WELL. SHE CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE COST OVERRUNS IN HER DEPARTMENT. I WOULD JUST SAY SHE IS ONE OF THE FEW DEPARTMENTS THAT IS FULLY STAFFED AND HAVE NO VACANCY SAVINGS AND IS ALSO SEEING THE SAME COST INCREASES WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE CITY WITH INFLATION AND MATERIAL COSTS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MY QUESTION WAS WHY CAN STREET SERVICE -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU TOLD ME EARLIER. I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHY ARE WE 4.5 OVER? I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S BECAUSE OF VANDALISM. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT YES. JENNIFER, THE CORRECTOR FOR DMD IS ALSO HERE AND PREPARED TO SPEAK. BUT IN CONVERSATIONS AND LOOKING AT THEIR BUDGET WE KNOW AND HISTORICALLY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WE'VE HAD QUITE AN EXTENSIVE COST WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST OF REPAIR OF THINGS VANDALIZED OR COPPER THEFT. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO MAINTAIN AND KEEP THE LIGHTS WORKING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THAT'S $4.5 MILLION IN VANDALISM AND COPPER WIRE THEFT. THAT HAPPENS A LOT IN MY DISTRICT. I'M CALLING YOU GUYS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF IT. IT BOTHERS ME THAT WE'RE SPENDING $4.5 MILLION ON FIXING THAT ISSUE. THE OTHER ISSUE IN FIRE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE OVER AND SO FORTH, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY AND I HOPE CHIEF CAN ANSWER THIS, HOW HUTCH DO WE SPEND ON MEDS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAVE CHIEF EMILY HERE PREPARED TO SPEAK. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I HAVE NOTES IN DIFFERENT PLACES. I'M GOING TO LOOK UP YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MEDICAL SUPPLIES. THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP. I HAVE THAT IN A MESSAGE, HERE. OUR MEDICATIONS ARE COMBINED WITH OUR MEDICAL SUPSUPPLIES. AND OUR BUDGET INCREASED FROM $500,000 TO $700,000. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH ADDED ITEMS AND INCREASES USAGE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT $652,000 FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES AND MEDICATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A CRIME PROBLEM IN THE CITY. AND IT REALLY BOTHERS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY -- WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND MONEY ON THESE THINGS WHEN WE CAN SPEND THEM ON OTHER THINGS BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CRIME ISSUE WE'RE DOING THE SAME STREET LIGHTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: CHIEF, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR YOU ON THIS ONE. BASED ON THE -- JUST MAKING SURE, THE OVERAGES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BUDGET, ARE ANY OF THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO BE USED TO EXPAND THE LIVING QUARTERS IN STATION 11? I KNOW WE NEEDED MORE MONEY TO MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WORK ON THIS SPECIFIC STATION. I DO THE RIDE ALONG SO I CAN SEE THE QUARTERS FOR MYSELF, CAN ANY OF THE FUNDING BE USED FOR THAT? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THIS IS OUR OVER BUDGET. WE DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO THAT RENOVATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: SO WE DID SPEND $4.5 MILLION ON WHAT? WE'RE OVER BUDGET, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THE 4.5 THAT COUNCILOR GROUT WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S WHAT WE SPENT ON THEFT AND ISSUES WITH COPPER WIRE? >> COUNCILAL ? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR GROUT WAS ASKING ABOUT THE OVER-BUDGET. THE PROGRAM THAT HAS OVERSPENT IN MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT, MOST OF THAT $4.5 MILLION WERE OVERSPENT IN DMD IS RELATED TO MAINTENANCE OF STREET LIGHTS WHICH IS VANDALISM COPPER THEFT AND KNOCK DOWNS. THERE'S A VARIETY OF EXPENDITURES THAT WE FOOT THE BILL WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TO REPLACE LIGHTS AND WIRE AND KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. THAT IS BUDGET WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. WE'RE A LITTLE OVERSPENT, THERE. CHIEF -- THE CHIEF'S BUDGET ALSO OVERSPENT, BUT AGAIN SHE HAS -- SHE'S TOTALLY STAFFED, NO VACANCY SAVINGS LIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. IF SHE HAS OVERTIME COST, SHE HAS COST TO COVER VACATION AND CALL-INS ET CETERA. SHE'S A LITTLE OVERSPENT ON HER BUDGET. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UPDATING THE FACILITIES, TYPICALLY THAT IS CAPITAL MONEY AND NOT OPERATING MONEY. WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HER FISCAL 24 OPRAALITY -- OPERATING BUDGET. AT THE END OF DECEMBER, THE PROJECTIONS, BASED ON THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON, THE CHIEF'S BUDGET WILL BE OVERSPENT. BUT I THINK THE CHIEF CAN ALSO SPEAK TO HER EFFORTS KNOWING THAT STARTING DECEMBER THAT SHE WAS -- WHERE SHE WAS PROJECTED TO BE. SHE IS WORKING ON SAVINGS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FOR FOLLOW UP, SAYING THAT YOU'RE FULLY STAFFED, I KNOW DURING BUDGET WE TALKED ABOUT ATYPICAL STAFFING. SINCE WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION NOW THAT WE'RE FULLY STAFFED WE HAVEN'T HAD ATYPICAL STAFFING? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE HAVE 19 VACANCIES. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO EVER -- WE CALL THAT BEING FULL STAFFING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CADET CLASS. WE JUST HAD A RETIREMENT AGAIN THIS WEEK. THAT NUMBER IS FLUID. AS FAR AS THE QUESTION RELATED TO ATYPICALS, WE DID RUN THE DATE A SINCE JANUARY TO NOW, OUR TRUCKS HAVE BEEN FULLY STAFFED 99.5% OF THE TIME. THE ATYPICAL WE HAD SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR HAVE FALLEN ON DAYS THAT WERE DIFFICULT TO BACKFILL. SO LIKE A HOLIDAY. USING CHRISTMAS AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT WAS LAST CALENDAR YEAR, THE ONLY REASON WE MAY FALL TO ATYPICAL IS WHEN WE HAVE MORE CALL-OUTS AND NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR OVERTIME AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FORCE HIRE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN OUR LAST ATYPICAL WAS BUT FROM JANUARY TO DATE WE'RE FULLY STAFFED 99.5% OF THE TIME. >>COUN. ROGERS: PERFECT, THANK YOU. CAN WE ADD SOME DATA FOR ATYPICAL STAFFING TO THE REPORT YOU SEND US? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I DID SEND SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AFTER BUDGET AND THAT DATA IS IN THERE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THE QUARTERLY REPORT YOU SEND TO US HAS A LOT OF GREAT DATA, I READ IT EVERY TIME YOU SEND IT, CAN YOU ADD THAT DATA POINT TO YOUR REPORT YOU SEND US REGULARLY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR MONTHLY INFORMATION REPORT? I'LL TALK TO MY TEAM TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IN THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YES I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT IN THERE. I WANT TO GO PACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE CAN WORK ON SHARING THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE THAT ADDED TO THE REPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CHIEF, THAT WAS A SIMILAR QUESTION. I WAS ADVISED THAT I HAVE ONE FIRE STATION, FIRE STATION 16 AND THEY'RE RUNNING ATYPICAL RIGHT NOW. AND ADVISED THAT A COUPLE DAYS AGO THAT WAS HAPPENINGENING. IT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT WEP YOU SAY -- WHEN YOU SAY IT'S FULLY STAFFED I'M CURIOUS WHY I'M GETTING MIXED SIGNALS. >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I CAN LOOK. WE STAFF BY SHIFT. FOR SOMEBODY TO PROJECT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE STAFFED FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IS INACCURATE INFORMATION. WE STAFFED DAILY, TWICE A CAY. -- DAY. WE MIGHT HAVE A VACANCY. BUT WE BACKFILL THAT VACANCY WITH OVERTIME AND SUPPORT DIVISION FILL-IN DAILY. THERE MAY BE A VACANCY FOR A FEW WEEKS PUT IT -- BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE NOT BACKFILLED. WE HAVE FLOATERS THAT WE CAN BACKFILL INTO THE VACANCY, SO THEY MAY NOT BID TO VACANCY BUT BID TO A FLOATING SPOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE RECEIPT BE NOTED. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. O-19. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN WE PULL O-19 OFF THE CONSENT? BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. WE WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION SO THERE WAS SOME UNDERSTANDING. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR MS. RONQUILLO TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER. WOULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE EXPLANATION OF THIS ENERGY BILL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WILL ACTUALLY DEFER TO TOM TO GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF THE BILL ITSELF. IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN HELP ON THOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> IF -- I APOLOGIZE, I THINK I'M JUST PICKING UP THE BILL NOW. IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO COME UP SO YOU CAN GET AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. VARELA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE HAD A FEW QUESTIONS THIS AFTERNOON FROM FOLKS AND THEY NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WERE DOING THIS. IF YOU COULD -- I'M GOING TO DO RATE A FEW QUESTIONS. MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THEM. MY UNDERSTANDING IS ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE ADOPTS STATE STANDARDS FOR ENERGY CONSERATION AND CAN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AMEND THE STANDARDS AND ADOPT OUR OWN? WE'RE A HOME RULE ENTITY, HOW DOES THE STATE STATUTE PREVENT US FROM ADOPTING A LOWER STANDARD? IS THERE A DEADLINE FOR PASSING THE STANDARD? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF COUNCIL DECIDES NOT TO ADOPT THOSE CHANGES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE QUESTIONS. THOSE ARE VERY INTERESTING QUESTIONS. YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S DEPARTMENT I ANSWERED LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE HOME RULE ESPECIALLY MISCONCEPTIONS REGARDING HOME RULE. IF THE STATE IS ENTIRELY SILENT IN A PARTICULAR AREA OF LAW PARTICULARLY EXERCISE OF POLICE POWER HEALTH SAFETY OR WELFARE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHICH IS A POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE IS ALLOWED TO GO AND ENACT ITS OWN RULES. WHEN THE STATE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IT HAS PREEMPTED THAT AREA AND ISSUED STATE-WIDE REQUIREMENTS THAT IS NOT THE CASE. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. NEW MEXICO STATUTE ANANNOTATED. PER THE STATE'S CID HAS THE EXCLUSIVE POWER TO COMPEL MINIMUM CODE COMPLIANCE. FURTHERMORE THEY MADE IT MORE SPECIFIC IN A RULE UNDER THE NEW MEXICO ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TITLE 14 UNDER THE STATE CODES, SUBSECTION 14-5-1-9-D, IT STATES THAT IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT THE STATE MINIMUM STANDARDS ARE IMPOSED ON ALL GOVERNMENTS, QUOTE-UNQUOTE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT MAY ENACT ORDINANCES THAT ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE BUT NOT LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE-ADOPTED MULTIPLE -- MINIMUM CODE. IF THE CITY WANTS TO ADOPT STRICTER VERSIONS, YES, IT CAN. LESS RESTRICTIVE, ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NOT. IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES IF SOME IMPOVERISHED VILLAGE OR TOWN OR COUNTY IN THE STATE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. THEY COULD SAY YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING YOU WANT WITH NO MINIMUM STANDARDS. IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER. THERE WOULD BE AN ECONOMIC BOOM AND FOLLOWED BY AN EMPLOSION AS THINGS FELL DOWN AND FELL APART. THE ANSWER IS WE CANNOT DO IT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT A LITTLE BIT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DIRECTOR, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE USED TO HAVE A MORE STRINGENT ENERGY CONSERATION CODE ON THE RECORD? IS THAT TRUE? >> THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SO WE COULD HAVE GONE MORE STRINGENT THIS TIME BUT THE CITY MADE THE CHOICE TO GO WITH CODES BASED ON THE STATE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT. THE CITY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS. ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED ACTIVELY IN THE STATE'S ENACTMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE BACK AND FORTH AND THE CITY SUPPORTS WHAT THE STATE DID AND DECIDED NOT TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD ECONOMICALLY CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY. WE'RE NOT ADOPTING ANYTHING MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE MINIMUM STANDARD WHICH IS IMPOSED BY LAW. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE US TO BE MORE STRINGENT. I BELIEVE IT'S SAD THAT THE CITY FOLLOWS WHAT THE STATE DOES. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW AND THERE'S NO WAY AROUND IT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE DON'T ADOPT THESE WE VOOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT'S CORRECT. THE REAL DANGER IS THAT IN OUR VERSION WE GET TO ADOPT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES. WHICH WE HAVE DONE. THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES SET ALL OF OUR FEES AND PARAMETERS FOR ISSING PERMITS. REVIEWING THE PLANS AND SO IF WE DON'T ADOPT THIS THE CITY WILL NOT HAVE ANY PROCEDURES FOR ISSING PERMITS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: EC-141 MOVED -- EC-19 -- O-19 MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CHAIR. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: . >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> THAT PASSES ON A 6-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEEING ON -- COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY ON ZOOM. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE -- WEDNESDAY JUNE 5th VOOEA ZOOM. AND LAND USE PLANNING ON JUNE 12th AT 5 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS BASEMENT LEVEL THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE NO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. NO APPEALS TONIGHT. ITEM IT 12 IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. TONIGHT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA ON OUR WEBSITE FRIDAY. BECAUSE WE HAVE ABOUT 125 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT, ON ALL THE BILLS, IF THE COUNCIL'S WISH TO GO TO ONE MINUTE TONIGHT AND THE REASON WHY IS WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE ALL HEAR. HERE. WE WANT TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT. IF WE WERE TO DO TWO MINUTES I THINK WE'D HERE TO AT 11 O'CLOCK AT LEAST IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE MINUTE. HERE ARE THE RULES EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE MINUTE TO PRESENT. IF YOU'RE INTERPRETING YOU'LL HAVE YOUR TWO MINUTES IF YOU HAVE AN INTERPRETER. I THINK THERE'S FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE THAT HAVE INTERPRETERS TONIGHT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. THERE'S ONE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT A BELL WILL RING TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: POINT OF PRERNL PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. WHILE IT MAY BE THE COUNCILOR'S WISH THAT PUBLIC COMMENT BE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT MY WISH. FOLKS WERE TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF PEOPLE WERE GIVEN THE TIME THEY'RE PROMISED. I WANT THAT ON RECORD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDEN -- >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS ACTUALLY JUST -- I LOST CONNECTION. I WAS SAYING YES. SOMEONE COULDN'T HEAR ME. ON O-19, MY VOTE WAS A YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THE CLERK HAS THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENT OR WISHES? MR. MOYA. >> THANK YOU WHERE, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS GELARI FOLLOWED BY LOU --LOUIE. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]? [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ] [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ] >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A TRANSLATOR? I THINK WE'LL HAVE THE FULL. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M A PROUD MOTHER OF FOUR DAUGHTERS AND 20 DOGS. I WAS A FULL-TIME VOLUNTEER IN THE ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR 15 YEARS AND OVER 13 YEARS IN ARIZONA AND HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M A JUSTICE ORGANIZER. THE CHILDREN'S FATHER WAS ARRESTED SIX YEARS AGO WHEN HE TRIED TO TOOK OFF THE DOOR WHEN HE WENT TO THE PROBATION OFFICER. WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO TALK TO HIS OFFICER. OR AGENT. THEY TURNED HIM TO ICE WHO CONFIRMED THAT THE ICE AGENT THAT THE PROBATION OFFICERS WERE THE ONES THAT TURPED HIM OVER. THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE DAD WAS SEPARATED FROM HIS HOME AND DAUGHTERS. IT WAS HORRIBLE TO GIVE THEM THE NEWS. THE YOUNGEST WAS 7 YEARS OLD. WHEN SHE CAME BACK FROM SCHOOL I HAD TO GIVE THE NEWS THAT MY DAUGHTER -- EXPERIENCED PANIC ATTACK AND THAT WERE STRONGER IF OVER THE DAY. THESE WERE FOLLOWED BY PROFOUND DEPRESSION AND IT INVOLVES ALL OF US. THE ENTIRE FAMILY. THAT SAME NIGHT ONE OF MY DAUGHTERS TRIED TO TAKE HER OWN LIFE WHICH WOULD -- WHICH IS SOMETHING AS A MOM I DON'T WISH IT ON ANYONE. I HAVE TO MEDICATE MY DAUGHTER SO THEY'RE ABLE TO SLEEP AND CONTROL THEIR DEPRESSION THEIR ANXIETY. THEIR DAD RETURNED HOME 55 DAYS AFTER THE DATE IN WHICH WE ALL TRIED TO FIGHT WITH THE FEAR OF BEING SEPARATED ONCE AGAIN. A LONG TIME AGO MY FAMILY WAS A VICTIM OF ONE OF THE MOST HORRIBLE CRIMES. MY DAUGHTER BEGGED WE DO NOT CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT TRUST THEM. THEY'RE AFRAID THEY WOULD ONCE AGAIN CALL ICE AND EVEN GOING AGAINST THEM I CONVINCED THEM TO DO IT AND WE ARE FIGHTING TO GET JUSTICE SO THAT CRIMINALS WILL PAY. WHITE MEN WHO HAVE BEEN SAFEGUARDED BY THE JUSTICE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGHT DUE TO IMMIGRATION STATUS. AND THEY ARE NOT BASING THIS ON OUR PAIN OR THINGS THAT COME AFTERWARD. THINGS WE'RE LIVING AS VICTIMS. ALL OF THIS WAS FOCUSED ON EVERYTHING IS FOCUSED ON OUR STATUS. IF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE FAILS MY FAMILY, WHEN FIGHTING AGAINST THE CRIMINALS MY FAMILY WILL BE LEFT IN A VULNERABLE POSITION BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. THANK YOU. >> LILAN FOLLOWED BY LUCIA FOLLOWED BY MASON. LUCILA FOLLOWED BY MASON,FOLLOWED BY CARA. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M -- CHILD CARE HOME WORKER, IMMIGRANT AND I LIVE IN THE SOUTH VALLEY IN ARB, NEW MEXICO. I'M PROUD OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS I MAKE TO THE COUNTRY AS AN IMMIGRANT AND MY CIVIC INVOLVEMENT IN MY COMMUNITY TO ADVAPES MY RIGHT. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT REPERCUSSIONS IF WE CHANGE OUR POLICY TOWARD IMMIGRANTS. AT THIS MOMENT I DON'T FEEL PERSECUTED AND MY FAMILY FEELS FREE. IT IS TIME FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITIES AND TAKE ACTION THAT REFLECT OUR VALUES AND PRINCIPLES. OUR PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO RECEIVE FAIR TREATMENT BY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE MUST NOT ALLOW TWO JUSTICE SYSTEMS. IT IS NOT FAIR TO FEEL THAT A POLICE OFFICER WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO BE A JUDGE AND JUROR WITHOUT A CLEAR AND FAIR PROCESS. IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO CALL THE POLICE. THESE AMENDMENTS WILL CREATE DISTRUST BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE. THANK YOU. >> MASON FOLLOWED BY CARTER FOLLOWED BY ALALBERTO. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED NEXT YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME AND THERE'S SPACE AVAILABLE IN THE FRONT ROW. IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME COME UP TO THE FRONT ROW AND ME UP NEXT READY TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I'M A POLICY DIRECTOR FOR COMMON CAUSE NEW MEXICO. I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT ALL OF THE GREAT COMMENTS TONIGHT. I FEAR I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON PROPOSITION ONE. THREE WEEKS AGO I WAS HERE SAYING I WAS ALARMED TO SEE A DRAMATIC CHANGE TO THE CITY'S CHARTER AND NOT IN A GREAT DIRECTION. THIS PROPOAL WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VOTES TO WIN FROM 40% TO 50% WHICH IS WHY YIECH ASKING -- I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST OR AT LEAST FOR A FURTHER DISCUSSION OR CHARTER REVIEW TASK FORCE. MAJORITY RULE IS A FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE OF REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. ALBUQUERQUE HAS AFFIRMED THIS PRINCIPLE IN 2013 AND WE CANNOT GO BACK TO MINORITY RULE. IT IS NOT RIGHT AND IT IS A RECIPE FOR INEFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT. OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY HAVE A MANDATE TO GOVERN NOT JUST 40% PLUS ONE MAJORITY. THANK YOU. >> CARTER FOLLOWED BY ALBERTO FOLLOWED BY LAN. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY. I'LL PROBABLY HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS WHEN PROPOSITION ONE COMES UP. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO LEVEL SET ON THIS IS THERE'S A LOT OF TALK, THERE'S AN ARTICLE IN TODAY'S PAPER, I HOPE THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE. IT'S SOMETHING WHERE FRANKLY MODERATE DEMOCRATS COULD HAVE WON IF WE HAD 50% IN 2009 BUT THERE'S REPUBLICANS THAT WOULD DO BETTER IN CERTAIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS. THE ONE THING YOU HAVE IN COMMON IS YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WIN 50% OF THE VOTE IN THE DISTRICT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS IN THE CITY. THE AVERAGE OVER THE LAST SIX CYCLES SINCE WE HAD THIS IS $507,000 PER CYCLE. THAT TRANSLATES INTO LESS THAN 1/50 OF 1% OF THE BUDGET. THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE RUNOFFICE AND THE 40% WOULD HAVE NO RUNOFFS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD. >> ALBERTO FOLLOWED BY LAN FOLLOWED BY MARIO. >> HELLO, I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF THE WELCOING CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT DOZENS OF FAMILIES. AT THE BORDER NETWORK FOR HUMAN RIGHTS OUR FOCUS IS ON THE GUARANTEEING THAT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MAIN OF WHOM LIVE IN THE SHADOWS KNOW THEIR RIGHTS. WE WORK TO ENSURE THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD AND PROVIDED THEM THE NECESSARY ORGANIZING TOOLS TO MAKE A POSITIVE CHANGE IN THE COMMUNITY. THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE HAVE SET A PRECEDENT FOR THE CITY. WE BELIEVE IN THE UNITED STATES BEING A WELCOING NATION AND GUARANTEED THAT FOR OUR CITY A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE'S RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED. BY CHANING THE WELCOING POLICY YOU WILL ERODE COMMUNITY TRUST. AND FEAR OF REPORTING CRIME. LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT NEED THE TRUST AND COOPERATION OF ALL COMMUNITIES TO FIGHT CRIME EFFECTIVELY. UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND DOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS AND CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN MIXED STATUS NEED TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE POLICE ARE THERE TO PROTECT THEM. CHANGES IN IMMIGRATION POLICIES. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. >> CALL THE NEXT ONE. >> LAN FOLLOWED BY MARIO FOLLOWED BY CILI. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE CIVIC PAUSA. I WANT TO TAKE US BACK TO 1975 WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL WAS FORMED. IN THAT SAME YEAR A WOMAN FLEEING A WARN TORN NATION WITH HER NINE NIECES AND NEPHEWS WOULD FLING THEM TO AN AIRCRAFT-AIRIER NOT KNOWING HOW TO SWIM. IN 1997 SHE'S GATHERING BOWLS AND PLATES DONATING THEM TO IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND HER YOUNGEST DAUGHTER ASKS WHAT SHE'S DOING AND SHE REPLIES WE WERE ONCE THEM. THAT YOUNG GIRM GIRL WOULD SERVE CITY COUNCIL AND DAUGHTER OF REF UMGES. FOR ME TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT THE PROPOSALS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS REALLY TO ADVOCATE AND PUSH US FORWARD NOT TO ROLL THE CLOCK BACK. IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES WE'RE STRONGER TOGETHER AND THOSE ARE PROPOSALS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TOWARD. WE SHOULD LOOK AT DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES THAT REALLY SPEAK TO OUR COMMUNITIES NOT ROLLING BACK WHAT VOTERS ALREADY DECIDED IN 2013. I HOPE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES CAN MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> MARIO FOLLOWED BY CILA. FOLLOWED BY MARLA. >> HE'S GIVEN ME HIS TIME. HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, STAFF, I'M COCOORDINATER OF THE [ INAUDIBLE ] INSTITUTE. ON THURSDAY MAY 30th, THE INSTITUTE AND NRDC HAD FILED A TITLE SIX CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINT URGING THE U.S. DEPARTMENT PROTECTION AGENCY TO REQUIRE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO START ACCOUNTING FOR THE IMPACTS OF POLLUTION AND LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN BERNALILLO COUNTY RENTING AIR POLLUTION PERMITS. IN BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SUFFER AIR POLLUTION ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS AND TRACEABLE TO LONG HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATORY HOUSING POLICIES AND AIR PERMITTING. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE AND UNLAWFUL THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS NO MECHANISM TO DETECT OR DETERMINE WHETHER AIR PERMITTING DECISION MAKES WILL EXACERBATE OR REDUCE THAT IMPACT. FEDERAL INTERVENTION IS NECESSARY BECAUSE ALBUQUERQUE'S ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> PLEASE CALL THE NEXT. >> CILA FOLLOWED BY MARLA. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO CLAPPING ALLOWED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S A RULES OF OUR PROCEDURE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. >> CILA FOLLOWED BY MARLA FOLLOWED BY LARRO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO OPEN ELECTIONS AND NM VOTERS FIRST. IT'S MY PERCEPTION THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DEMOCRACY IS. THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL MUST REJECT THE UNDEMOCRATIC AND RUSHED CHANGES TO THE CITY CHART ER STEPPING BACK FROM MAJORITY RULE SYSTEM HAS MAJOR IMPLICATIONS. WINNERS WITH ONLY 40% OF THE VOTE DO NOT HAVE A MANDATE TO GOVERN. WITH THE PROBLEMS ALBUQUERQUE FACES WE NEED LEADERS WITH BROAD PUBLIC SUPPORT TO REPRESENT THEM WHILE MAKING DECISIONS TO THE DAILY LIVES. THE VOTERS NEED CANDIDATES TO BE ELECTED WITH 50% OR MORE. WE'RE NOT HERE TO MOVE BACKWARD. SOMETHING THIS COUNCIL REPEATEDLY DENIES THE VOTERS A CHOICE IS RAPG CHOICE VOTING. IT'S A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAT ALLOWS FOR CANDIDATES TO WIN WITH 50% PLUS ONE. IT ELIMINATES RUNOFF ELECTIONS WITH LOW TURNOUT AS IT CALCULATES VOTERS PREFERENCES AND ORDER AND PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS AND A BETTER VOICE FOR VOTERS AT THE POLLS. >> MARLA FOLLOWED BY LARRO FOLLOWED BY FOREST. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I AM PRESIDENT OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COMMUNITY ACTION WHICH IS A MEMBER OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION. THIS IS A COMPLAINT SEPARATE FROM THE -- JUST TO BE CLEAR. MOUNTAIN VIEW COMMUNITY IS A COMMUNITY PRIMARILY OF PEOPLE OF COLOR LOW INCOME AND WORKING CLASS FOLKS. WE HAVE WORKED FOR YEARS A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF CONTAMINATION AND POLLUTION. IF YOU RECALL THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION FILED A PETITION WITH THE JOINT COUNTY AIR QUALITY CONTROL BOARD THAT PROPOSED REMEDY FOR THE ONGOING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT BEAR HEALTH INEQUITIES IN ALBUQUERQUE, BERNALILLO COUNTY. WHEN THE COALITION WAS GRANTED HEARING DATE ON THE HEEI COUNCILOR LEWIS PROPOSED A RESOLUTION TO YOU TO ABOLISH THE AIR BOARD AND POSTPONE FURTHER MEETINGS UNTIL THE BOARD COULD BE REASSEMBLED WITH INDUSTRY-FRIENDLY MEMBERS. THAT CAN'T BE A MINUTE. IS THAT A MINUTE? ARE YOU SURE? I TIMED IT VERY CAREFULLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S BEEN A MINUTE. THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE VIOLATED TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 AND CONSIDER YOURSELF SERVED. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> LARRO. FOLLOWED BY FOREST FOLLOWED BY NORA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I SERVE ON BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION. CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINT OF THE EPA AGAINST THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND IS BASED ON DECADES LONG DISCRIMINATION AND VULNERABLE MEXICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. THE PATTERN OF CIVIL RIGHTS DISCRIMINATION OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AGAINST MOUNTAIN VIEW AND THE SOUTH VALLEY MUST NO LONGER CONTINUE. WE HAVE BEEN THEIR DUMPING GROUNDS AND A PLACE FOR POLICY MAKERS EXPLOIT US TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES. ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION FROM HAZARDOUS TOXIC AND CARCSONOGENIC HAVE HURT THE RESIDENTS RESULTING FROM THE OVERT DISCRIMINATORY POLICY AND PERMITTING PROCESSES SINCE THE EARLY 1970s. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> FOREST, FOLLOWED BY NORA. FOLLOWED BY GARY. >> I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF WILDLIFE REFUGE. MEMBER OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION. THE COMMUNITY WAS ATTEMPTING TO IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND RULE MAKING PROCESS BY ASKING THE AIR BOARD TO CONSIDER A ROLE THAT WOULD ADDRESS DISCRIMINATORY AIR PERMITTING. THE CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCTION AND PASSING RESOLUTION TO ABOLISH THE AIR BOARD AND STOP IT FROM TAING ACTION INTERFERED. THESE ACTIONS WERE TAKEN TO PREVENT THE AIR BOARD FROM ADOPTING ANY REGULATION THAT ADDRESSES SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION THAT IS OF THE PROCESS ALLOWED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR DECADES. ALLOWING THE ACTIONS TO CONTINUE RESULTS IN INTENTIONAL DISCRIMINATION BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGAINST ITS OWN LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE OF COLOR. THAT IS A VIOLATION OF OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I HAVE TO ASK YOU. IT'S THE RULE OF DECORUM, THE COUNCIL, NO MATTER WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT, YOU CAN'T CLAP. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE A CHANCE TO BE HEARD. WE WANT TO GET THROUGH ALL THE SPEAKERS TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> NORA, FOLLOWED BY DPAR -- GARY FOLLOWED BY MATEO. >> CHAIR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, I'M A MEMBER OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION. I SIGNED MY NAME TO THE VIFBL RIGHTS COMPLAINT THAT THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COALITION LAES FRIDAY BECAUSE I WITNESSES THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL DISCRIMINATE AGAINST MY COMMUNITY. COUNCILOR LEWIS PROPOSED RESOLUTION R-23-128 THAT INTERFERED WITH THE HEALTH ENVIRONMENT AND IMPACT RULES WHICH ALREADY HAD BEEN SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING ON DECEMBER 4 THROUGH THE 11th OF 2023. HE CHALLENGED THE QUALIFICATION OF THE AIR BOARD MEMBERS DESPITE THE EXPERTISE AND PROFESSIONALISM AND WANTED TO ABOLISH THE ENTIRE BOARD. HIGHLY INTIMIDATING BOARD MEMBERS WHO CLAIMED THAT HEEI RULE MAKINGS WITH DESTROY THE ECONOMY OFFENSE ALBUQUERQUE. COUNCILOR LEWIS, HIS ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION PASSED THE COUNCIL AND COUNCILOR LEWIS WAS NOMINATED AS PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. SIR, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU REMOVED IF YOU KEEP THAT UP. OR WE'RE GOING TO CLEAR THE ROOM. >> GARY FOLLOWED BY MATEO FOLLOWED BY NED. >> MATEO FOLLOWED BY NED FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM A RECENT GRADUATE OF THE SOUTHWEST SECONDARY LEARNING CENTER NORTH POINT CHARTER SCHOOL. MAY 8, 2024 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DAY OF CELEBRATION A DAY OF HAPPINESS AND JOY. IT TURNED TRAGIC ON 5 P.M. A SHOT ECHOED THROUGHOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER INSTEAD OF THE EMOTIONS OF HAPPINESS AND JOY WE SHOULD HAVE FELT, ABOUT 200 PEOPLE WERE LEFT IN ANGER FEAR AND SADNESS AND SHOCK, PERPETRAOR OF THIS ATTACK IS NOW NOT IN PRISON BUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST LIVING WITH HIS GRANDMOTHER DUE TO THE DECISION OF JUDGE RUDOLFO HE IS IN A SENSE FREE. WHILE THE REST OF US STRUGGLE WITH THE IMPACT OF THIS EVENT. THE ATTEMPT TO APPEAL THE DECISIONS OF HOUSE ARREST WAS DENIED NOW THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IS APPEALING THE DECISION. ALONG THERESA GARCIA AND I'M DEDICATED TO DRAFTING A BILL AIMED AT WHAT OUR STATE FAILED TO DO IN THE PAST. PROTECT OUR PEOPLE. THE BILL IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS AND TO BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT NEW MEXICO. THE CONVENTION CENTER FAILED TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR OUR SCHOOL AND FAMILY. THERE WERE NO METAL DETECTORS, HOWEVER WHEN A FAMILY MEMBER OF MINE RETURNED ON THE NEXT DAY TO RETRIEVE ITEMS METAL DETECTORS WERE UP AND FUNCTIONING. WHAT MESSAGE DOES THIS SEND TO THE FAMILIES PRESENT THAT DAY? WHAT POSITION WOULD YOU BE IN IF THIS HAPPENED AT YOUR CHILD'S GRADUATION OR EVEN IN A SIMILAR POSITION, YOUR OWN GRADUATION? I NOW ASK YOU AS OUR CITY COUNCIL WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO DO TO ENSURE THE SENSELESS ACTS LIKE THIS DO NOT OCCUR AGAIN. WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND OUR FUTURE? I'M SPEAK SEEKING YOUR SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE IS HARMED IN THESE EVENTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. FEEL FREE TO SEND THAT TO US. WE'D LOVE TO CHAT WITH YOU AND VISIT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT SOME MORE. I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED ON TIME. WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE THROUGH THESE. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. >> NED FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY RAY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBERS. I WORK WITH LOWER CLASS PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE BECAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS YOU'RE DOING. ONE OF THEM IS AROUND CHANING THE CITY CHARTER. AND NOT GIVING THE REST OF US, SO MANY OF US A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY CHOOSE WHO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE SITS THERE NEXT. IN A MORMTH MAJORITY RULE. WE OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT. WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND TRANSPARENCY. WE'RE ALSO HERE BECAUSE YOU KEEP -- IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT HOW WORRIED ABOUT YOUR OVERSPENDING YET YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MAKE IT WHERE YOU'RE DOING THE JOB OF ICE AND SPENDING MORE MONEY AND ENFORCING THE FEDERAL AGENCY TO HAVE LOTS OF MONEY TO DO ITS JOB. IF THAT IS THE TRUE CONCERN THAT SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE REASON AMONG MANY NOT TO DO IT. AND THE SECOND REASON BECAUSE IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM THAT ANYTHING THAT WE TOLD YOU YOU HEARD US WHEN YOU TALK PUBLICLY AND IN THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL ABOUT HOW WE'RE MISINFORMING THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S CONDESCENDING. WE'RE VERY INFORMED AND VERY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. >> CHRISTOPHER FOLLOWED BY RAY. FOLLOWED BY -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M GOING TO GIVE ANOTHER WARNING, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE IF YOU CONTINUE TO START THE CLAPPING AGAIN. AFTER THIS I'M GOING TO EITHER CLEAR THE ROOM OR HAVE YOU REMOVED. I AM GOING TO KEEP DECORUM IN THE MEETING. MY JOB IS TO KEEP DECORUM IN THE CHAMBERS, I'M GOING TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. >> I'M CHRISTOPHER WITH TOGETHER FOR BROTHERS. FIRST HAPPY PRIDE MONTH AND A REMINDER THAT THE FIRST PRIDE WAS A RIOT AGAINST POLICE VIOLENCE. WE SPONDERED A TEAM FOR THE ADOPT A STOP DAY. WE'RE NOT -- WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFFING TO CLEAN ALL THE BUS STOPS AT THE CURRENT TIME. I'M SPEAKING FIRST ABOUT R-2445 ENCOURAGING CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE NO TO THE AMENDMENTS. WE SUPPORT VICTIMS WHEN THEY'RE WITNESSES TO CRIME AND SAFETY ISSUES. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DANGEROUS BY DESIGN BY SMART GROWTH NAMING ALBUQUERQUE THE SECOND DEADLIEST CITY WITH 221 DEATHS BETWEEN 2018 AND 2022. ON SATURDAY WE HOSTED A WALK AUDIT TO OBSERVE TRAFFIC AND STREET SCAPING ON EAST CENTRAL. THAT IS BETWEEN LOUISIANA AND WYTHAT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS ROADS IN THE COUNTRY WITH 16 DEATHS BETWEEN 2018 AND 2022. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> PROJECTS PLANNED HAVE NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL ROGERS AND THE CITY TO FIND OUT WHY VISION ZERO ISN'T MEETING. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> RAY FOLLOWED BY JJANICE FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. >> CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'M A RETIRED RESIDENT OF THE WEST SIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M NOT -- I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE ROLL BACK ON THE ELECTION. I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO FIND MONEY IN THE BUDGET YOU NEED TO FIND IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. BECAUSE ELECTIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THE COUNTRY AND IN THE STATE. AND IN THE CITY. ROLLING BACK ANY RULES I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH. THANK YOU. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY ADJUSTEN FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> HELLO, I'M A CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR ORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBERS. WE'RE A WORKER POWER ORGANIZATION COMMITTED TO GROWING WORKER POWER IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. LAST FRIDAY YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL WITH AN ATTACHMENT OF A DOZEN UNIONS AND LABOR LED ORGANIZATIONS. IN ALBUQUERQUE, AFLCIO AND RETIREES AND PROFESSIONALS, THE BAKERS, LOCAL 351 AND OTHER LABOR-LED ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURSELVES, UNITED ACADEMICS, I COULD GO ON. IF WE HAD MORE TIME WE COULD DOUBLE THAT NUMBER. THE CURRENT ORDINANCES RECOGNIZES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS THREATENED WITH IMMIGRANT VICTIMS AND WITNESSES OF CRIME FEAR CONTACTING POLICE AND -- LOCAL POLICE WORK AND CIVIL IMDPRAGZ ENFORCEMENT. AMENDING THIS POLICY WOULD DISMANTLE PROTECTIONS FOR WORKERS LEAVING ALL WORKERS VULNERABLE TO LABOR VIOLATIONS. WE URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON R-45. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY ANAMI FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT. I KNOW IT'S YOUR JOB BUT IT'S ASKING A LOT OF MANY PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT BEFORE THE PRIMARY ELECTION TO TRY TO ADDRESS SO MANY THINGS. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE. FIRST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THAT P1 IS O-26 ARE BOTH DESIGNED TO AVOID RUNOFF. I THINK IT WILL LEAD TO POLITICAL GAINS AND UNGRAK -- UNDEMOCRATIC GAINS. I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT P2 AND REMOVING A CLERK OR ATTORNEY FOR POLITICAL REASONS WHICH CAN HAPPEN RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION. THE MAIN REASON PEOPLE ARE HERE IS R-45. I'M THE PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE ASIAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO. WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION SIGN ON TO LETTER BY EL CENTRO OPPOING THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ARE FOR ALL IMMIGRANTS. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY IZAIAH. RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY IZAIA IZAIA. >> COUNCILOR LEWI, ? >> [ SINGING IN SPANISH ] >> THEY CAN HATE ME IF THEY WANT TO, BUT THE FACT IS WE HAVE 55,000 UNFRIENDLY IMMIGRANTS IN THE NATION. THAT'S ALMOST A THOUSAND TERRORIST PER STATE. WE HAVE 2,000 HOMELESS IMMIGRANTS FOR EVERY STATE. WE HAVE 100,000 FENTANYL DEATHS FROM 100,000 SOLDIERS FROM THE MEXICAN CARTEL. H7 IS A THREAT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ESPECIALLY IN PRIDE MONTH. WE'RE CUTTING THE PENIS OF CHILDREN AND THIS IS GOING TO MAKE ISIS FAMOUS. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ISAIAH FOLLOWED BY THERESA. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, I REPRESENT OVER A THOUSAND SHEET WORKERS. I OPPOSE P1. THIS IS A DIRECT ATTACK ON OUR CORE PRINCIPLES OF DEMOCRACY. DEMOCRACY MEANS THE PEOPLE SHOULD CHOOSE THEIR LEADERS. WE HAVE MANY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO PROTECT MINORITY GROUPS AND PARTIES. A MAJORITY OF VOTERS SHOULD HAVE THE VOTES COUNTED AND CANDIDATES ELECTED. THIS SCHEME MAKES IT EASY FOR SOMEONE THAT ONLY 40% OF VOTERS SUPPORT AND 60% OPPOSE. TAKE POWER BY GAMING THE SYSTEM AND ADDING MORE CANDIDATES TO THE BALLOT. EVERYBODY WOULD BE VOTING BY MAJORITY. SDMRL SIR, CAN . >>COUN. LEWIS: SIR, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? DID YOU POLL YOUR MEMBERS ON THIS? WAS THIS A VOTE OF YOUR MEMBERS? ARE YOU REPRESENTING YOUR MEMBERS TONIGHT? >> YEAH, I'M REPRESENTING THEM. >>COUN. LEWIS: WAS THERE A POLL DONE? >> I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO A POLL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL A MAJORITY VOTE FOR THE POLL. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU DIDN'T DO A VOTE TONIGHT? YOU DIDN'T DO A VOTE OF ASKING THEIR OPINION EVEN THOUGH YOU REPRESENT THEM? IT'S FINE. >> WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO A POLL. WE'LL DO IT NEXT TIME. >> LEXY FOLLOWED BY THERESA FOLLOWED BY RICARDO. >> HELLO, I'M A FIELD ORGANIZER AREORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBER. AS A PROUD IMMIGRANT I'M HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE NO FOR R-45. WHY? I'M A PROUD IMMIGRANT. MY FAMILY IS A PROUD IMMIGRANT AND WE DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DEPORTED EVEN THOUGH SOME OF OUR MEMBERS THINK WE SHOULD. WE'RE PROUD WORKERS. WE FEED THE ECONOMY IN THE U.S. WE WANT ALL WORKERS TO HAVE RIGHTS. TO BE ABLE TO WORK FAIRLY. NO OTHER CONDITIONS SHOULD BE ALLOWED. I WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU TAKE THIS VOTE, NOT FOR ME, BUT THINK FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE HOME. MY SIBLINGS THAT HAVE THE DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY. MY FATHER WHO CAME OUT OF THE DETENTION CENTER WHO HAS NEVER BEEN OKAY. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I WANT YOU TO THINK ESPECIALLY FOR THE MEMBERS THAT SAY YOU'RE THE CEO OF YOUR FAMILY I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ABUSERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY, YOUR PEOPLE ARE OUR ABUSERS. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY RICARDO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, AS CHAIR PERSON FOR THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT OF ALBUQUERQUE I COME BEFORE YOU FOR THE RIGHTS AND SAFETY OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES. AS A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANT AND PROUD DESCENDANT I'M AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES OF IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. THIS POLICY NOT ONLY UNDERMINES THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES OF OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED OPBUT SERIOUS RISK OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELL BEING. SURVIVORS OFTEN FACE ADDITIONAL BARRIERS AND THEY MAY BE THREATENED WITH DEPORTATION. AND CLIMATE OF DISTRUST TO SEEK LAW ENFORCEMENT AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES. IT'S FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR OF VIOLENCE. SURVIVORS ARE GETTING ARRESTED AND COULD FACE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] >> RICARDO. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MEAN, HOW LONG IS THE RESOLUTION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT? READ IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF SURVIVORS AND IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY PUBLIC SAFETY POLICIES. THE COMPOSED OF INDIVIDUALS AND LIVED EXPERIENCE AND ADVOCATES AND SERVICE PROVIDERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING SURVIVORS REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS OR RACE OR CITIZENSHIP. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS LEGACY OF PASSING PUBLIC SAFETY POLICIES THAT PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY AND OPPOSE CIVIL RIGHTS AND WE'RE ALL RESIDENT AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC CULTURE AND CIVIC OF THE CITY. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLICY INTRODUCED BY ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL WHICH MAY STRIP IMMIGRANTS OF DUE PROCESS AND PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION LEADING TO RACIAL PROFILE AND VARIOUS ARRESTS AND HARM FOR SURVIVORS. AND IMMIGRANTS THREATENED BY THEIR ABUSERS WITH LAWS OR DEPORTATION THAT CAN CREATE BARRIERS AND ENTRUSTING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUTTING FEAR IN SURVIVORS. AND WHEREAS IT WAS CREATED TO ADDRESS SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE COMMUNITY AS RECOMMENDED BY MAYOR KELLER 2019 DOMESTIC -- ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE IN 2022. THE COMMISSION STANDS WITH IMMIGRANT FAMILY MEMBERS ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND TAXPAYERS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS RECOGNIZING THE TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIRES ADDRESSING ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME RATHER THAN CRIMINALIZING AND DEMONIZING THOSE BASED ON RACE OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. WE EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR IMMIGRANT-FRIENDLY PUBLIC SAFETY PALMSES TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL RESIDENTS INCLUING IMMIGRANTS. THE COMMISSION URGES THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER ANY POLICIES THAT MAY HAVE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON IMMIGRANTS AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT AND PRIORITIZE POLICIES THAT PROMOTE SAFETY AND EQUITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL RESIDENTS AND THESE RESULT THE DBSA COMMISSION WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE RIGHTS AND WELL BEING OF WEREVIVERS INCLUING THE IMMIGRANTS AND WORK WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS ROOT CAUSES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ENSURE ACCESS TO SUPPORT SERVICES FOR ALL SURVIVORS. MAY IT BE APPROVED THAT WE ALL APPROVED IN THE COMMISSION DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> RICARDO FOLLOWED BY GIDE ON ZOOM. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SACRED TRUST WITH REGARD TO MUNICIPAL PARKLANDS. WELLS PARK IS OPPOSED TO THE SALE OF THE DOG PARK. WE'RE OPPOSED TO TURNING CORONADO PARK INTO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PARK. THESE PARKS MITIGATE AIR POLLUTION AND THEY PROVIDE RELIEF AND RECREATION FOR THE PEOPLE AND VISITORS OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE ARE GETTING A SMALL PARK ABOUT 1/8 OF THE SIZE OF THE PARK BEING TAKEN AWAY. IT'S A SENSITIVE AREA. AND TO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY IS AN ADDICATION OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN AND NURTURE AND TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE SALE OF THE DOG PARK AND WE'RE OPPOSED TO CORONADO PARK BEING ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU WERE -- SIR. >> GIDIE FOLLOWED BY JULIE. >> YES, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M A FORMER STATE SENAOR FROM THE NORTH VALLEY. I CURRENTLY CUP SULT -- CONSULT WITH COMMON CAUSE NEW MEXICO. TONIGHT I SPEAK TO YOU AS SOMEONE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DIMINISHING LEVEL OF TRUST OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS OF ALL PARTIES IN NEW MEXICO WE HAVE A GOVERNMENTAL CONDUCT ACT THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS ADDRESSES CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT OCCUR WHEN OFFICIALS ARE ACTING IN THEIR OWN PRIVATE INTERESTS RATHER THAN THE PUBLIC INTERESTS WHICH THEY SWEAR TO UPHOLD. IN CASES OF PUBLIC THE OFFICIALS ARE ASKED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES SO THAT THERE CAN BE NO QUESTION IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE THAT THEY'RE ACTING FOR THE GENERAL GOOD AND NOT THEIR OWN. TONIGHT COUNCILORS YOU WILL BE VOTING ON A CHARTER AMENDMENT WHICH WILL REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VOTES NEEDED TO ELECT CITY COUNCIL ERS LIKE YOURSELVES AND MAY ORAL CANDIDATES TO 40% RATHER THAN 50%. ALTHOUGH THIS IS A CHARTER AMENDMENT WHICH MUST BE RATIFIED AT A GENERAL ELECTION IT WILL NOT MAKE THE BALLOT WITHOUT YOUR VOTE. AND IT AFFECTS YOU DIRECTLY. SHOULD YOU SEEK OFFICE AGAIN. ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT AN ECONOMIC BUT A POLITICAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I ASK YOU, HOW THIS IS -- HOW THIS LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. NEXT SPEAKER. MR. MOYA GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> FOLLOWED BY DEBRA. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF CANYON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M SWITCHING SUBJECTS A LITTLE BIT ON YOU. DIFFERENT THAN SPOFT SOME OF THE OTHER IMPORTANT COMMENTS SHARED BY THE XHRBS OF THE THE LUPZ COMMUNITY REJECTED AMENDMENT 7. ON MAY 15th. AMENDMENT B6 IS EXACTLY THE SAME. I HOPE IT WILL BE REJECTED AGAIN THIS AMENDMENT IS PUT FORWARD BY THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THREE YEARS AND REJECTED THREE YEARS. OVERWHELMINGLY BECAUSE OF OPPOSITION FROM THE PUBLIC AND EPC DECISION TO REJECT IT. WHY DO I OPPOSE HIGHER FENCES BEING PERMISSIVE? PEOPLE CAN ALREADY BUILD HIGHER FENCES USING THE WALL OR FENCE PROCESS. THIS PROCESS IS NOT BURDENTIUM PLEASE REJECT THIS. THE REMAINDER OF MY COMMENTS I'LL COMMIT IN WRITING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> DEBRA FOLLOWED BY MAUREEN. >> COUNCILORS, AS JULIE JUST SAID PERMITS ARE ALREADY REQUIRED AND THERE'S A VARIANCE PROCESS. INSTEAD OF MAKING WALLS OVER THREE FEET PERMISSIVE THE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: MA'AM, I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE REMAINDER OF YOUR TIME. JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT. I WANT TO ASK OUR ATTORNEY -- AND I KNOW THERE'S ONLY A FEW MORE SPEAKERS. ADJUST -- JUST IN CASE THERE'S OTHERS THAT SPEAK IN RELATION TO THE IDO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE CAN CAN AND CAN'T HEAR. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE THE CURRENT SPEAKER IS SPEAKING TO A GENERAL AMENDMENT TO THE IDO. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT QUASI-JUDICIAL COMMENTS BEING MADE. OUTSIDE OF THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE IDO. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THE COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO BE DOES DISCUSSING THE MATTER. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH ANY PARTICULAR PUBLIC COMMENT. IN SPECIFICALLY, THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK GENERALLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MA'AM, GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. BASICALLY, AS IT WAS SAID THERE'S ALREADY PROCESS IN PLACE REQUESTING VARIANCES OVER THREE FEET. INSTEAD OF MAKING LAWS WERE MISSIVE I ASK THE CITY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC IN THE PERMIT PROCESS AND IDO PROCESS. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE ALREADY MANY WALLS OVER 3 FEET. MANY ARE UNPERMITTED AND THEY INTER -- EVEN ON PART OF THE FENCING IS NEW FENCING. IT MAKES IT UNSAFE FOR VEHICLES AND BICYCLES. I TALKED WITH ADMINISTRATORS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WAS TOLD BY MOST OF THE ABSENCES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE BUSSING AREA WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. I CAN SEE WHY IT'S DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO WALK ON THE SIDE WALK PAST THOSE WITH WALLS AND FENCES OVER THREE FEET BECAUSE OF THE DANGER OF CARS BACKING OUT AND TAKES EYES OFF THE STREET MAKING CHILDREN MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO BEING ABDUCTED. >> MAUREEN. YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE. >> REJECT LOWERING THE THRESHOLD FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE VOTED IN. INSTEAD SUPPORT RANK CHOICE VOTING THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL OF LOWERING RENOFF COSTS WHILE NOT DEMINGSING I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE SALE OF CORONADO DOG PARK. AND I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE CHANGES TO THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OUR NEXT ITEM IS APPROVALS. COUNCIL WILL TAKE OUR SCHEDULED BREAK AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE ON ITEM 13 APPROVALS. EC-110. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. EC110, DECLARING CORONADO DOG PARK NEWT ESSENTIAL -- NOT SEARCH FOR NEWSPAPER NUCLEAR WEAPON THIS IS TO HELP WITH REDEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. TO IMPROVE THE LOSS OF CORONADO PARK ITSELF. I'VE MET WITH THE ASSOCIATION, I MET WITH SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO TALK ABOUT THIS. AT THE TIME THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE. I'M SORRY, THE ADMINISTRATION -- THEY ASSURED ME IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A QUICK -- COMPANION TO R-63 IS THE FUNDS DO NOT GO TO GENERAL FUNDS BUT STAY WITHIN COUNCIL TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY WHOLE TO HAVE GREEN SPACE, PARKS, PURCHASING OTHER LANDS TO CREATE MORE PARKS ON TOP OF THE PARK RIGHT NOW. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED FOR APPROVAL. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT --BY PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY, GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FIRST SPEAKER IS JULIE ANN FOLLOWED BY LEONARD. >> I CAME MERE TONIGHT AS A HOMEOWNER IN WELLS PARK TO INITIALLY ASK YOU TO VOTE AGAINST DECLARING CORONADO PARK NOT ESSENTIAL. AS A DOG OWNER THIS IS THE MOST SPACIOUS PARK CLOSE TO OUR HOME. FIRST TIME IN SEVERAL YEARS I'M ABLE TO USE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSS OF ANOTHER PARK IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS. THIRD I'M CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASING TEMPERATURES AND THE LOSS OF CRITICAL GREEN SPACE. A QUICK GLANCE OF THE ALBUQUERQUE HEAT MAP SHOWS CONCENTRATED GROWTH OF TREES INCREASE -- DECREASES TEMPERATURES TO THREE DEGREES IN SEVERAL BLOCKS. WE SHOULD LOOK TO INCREASE NOT DESTROY GREEN PLACES IN WELLS PARK AND ACROSS ALBUQUERQUE. IN REGARD TO MAINTAINING THE COMMUNITIE -- CURRENT BOARD MEMBER, I'M ALSO COMPELLED TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST R-24-45 WHICH WILL HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES PARTICULAR LAR THOSE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. SDMRL THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, I CAME MERE I CAME HERE TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE CORONADO PARK. AS A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE SPACES AVAILABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE NATURE OF WELLS PARK BEING HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING INDUSTRIAL AND HALF BEING THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE LACK OF OPEN SPACES AND RECREATIONAL SPACES FOR US. THE LOSS OF THE PARK WILL HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. I FEEL LIKE IF THE PARK REMAINS OPEN IT WILL INCREASE ACTIVITY OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHILE USING THE PARK I FEEL THAT WILL TRANSLATE INTO SAFETY FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. >> RICARDO FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M SHEINGING I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WELLS PARK NANED -- NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OPPOSED TO THE SALE OF THE DOG PARK FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A PARK. THIS IS A SENSITIVE KRAIR -- AREA HAVING A SPAN OF TREES AND BEING A SENSITIVE AREA LIKE ANY DEVELOPER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE MITIGATION OR JUSTIFICATION FOR REMOVING TREES. I THINK THE CITY SHOULD BE THE STANDARD BEARER AND THE EXAMPLE TO BE HELD AS A HIGHER STANDARD THAN DEVELOPERS WOULD BE. WE NEED TO SHOW WE CARE ABOUT COMMUNITIES, WE INVOLVE COMMUNITIES BEFORE DECISIONS LIKE THESE ARE BEING MADE. I BEING A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH ANYONE REGARDING THE SALE OF THE PARK OR -- IT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME. I'M TOLD THE SALE OF THE CORONADO PARK, RATHER THE CONVERSION OF CORONADO PARK IS A DONE DEAL. IT IS NOT A DONE DEAL. THE ZONING HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED. WE NEED TO PRESERVE PUBLIC SPACES. IT'S ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND OXYGEN IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ABOUT PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO RECKERATE WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC PARKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> MICHAEL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, HE GAVE HIS TIME TO ME. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE WELLS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OUR BOARD VOTED TO A -- OPPOSE SALE OF THE DOG PARK. FOR THOSE FAMILIAR IN THE AREA WE HAVE LONGSTANDING ISSUES WITH LOSS OF PUBLIC SPACES IN WELLS PARK INCLUING THE MANAGEMENT OF CORONADO PARK AND THE CLOSURE. WE'RE RUNNING AT DEFICIT OF PUBLIC SPACE AND TREES IN THE AREA. WE LOST ALL TREES AT THE CORONADO AREA AND THERE'S SOME AT THE DOG PARK IF CLOSED WE'LL LOSE THOSE AS WELL. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE BEEN -- WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BACA'S LEGISLATION TO KEEP THAT MONEY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY POSSIBY REPLACE THOSE TREES. MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THE TIMELINE THAT WOULD HAPPEN. THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR -- IT'S TAKEN TEN YEARS TO GET A NEW PARK OR COMMUNITY CENTER AND WE HAVE NO PUBLIC SPACES OTHER THAN THE DOG PARK. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON EC110. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS EC110 IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ADMINISTRATION WANT TO COMMENT ON IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THE IDEA AND THE GOAL BEHIND DECLARING THIS NON-ESSENTIAL IS TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THE POTENTIAL FOR EITHER JOB GROWTH OR HOUSING IN THE AREA. AS YOU MAY KNOW AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCILOR BACA, THE INTENT IS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE PARKS THAT ARE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUING WELLS PARK. WHICH RIGHT NOW IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO INCLUDE AND EXPAND THAT FOOTPRINT AND DOUBLES THE PARK INCLUING AN -- A DOG PARK NOT ANIMAL PARK. THAT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT BOTH INVESTMENT IN THE AREA FOR THE PARS THAT ARE IN RENOVATION AND ALSO WITH SANTA BARBARA PARK. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. HOW CLOSE IS THE CLOSEST PARK FROM THE DOG PARK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK THAT DAVE SIMON OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC IS HERE. HAPPY TO HAVE HIM DESCRIBE -- HE'S NOT? OH, THERE HE IS. I BELIEVE THE PARKS ARE WITHIN A MILE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. SIMON. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. VICE-PRESIDENT GROUT, THE CLOSEST CITY PARK TO CORONADO DOG PARK WOULD BE WELLS PARK. IT'S ABOUT SIX BLOCKS AWAY. >>COUN. GROUT: IS IT NORTH OR SOUTH? >> SOUTH AND WEST OF THE CORONADO DOG PARK. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. >> THAT IS A 4.2 ACRE PARK. IT WILL BE LARGER AFTER THE CURRENT EXPANSION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHEN WILL WELLS PARK BE READY FOR ENTERTAINING? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULED FOR THE PARK PROJECT HAS US, HOPEFULLY FINISHING UP FINISHING EARLY NEXT YEAR. EARLY 2025. >>COUN. GROUT: ONE FINAL QUESTION, IS IT GOING TO HAVE A DOG PARK? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, YES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ADD ALSO THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE RAIL TRAIL WILL BE 100 YARDS FROM THE EXISTING DOG PARK. ALSO R-63 WHICH COMES UP NEXT -- THE FUNDS WILL STAY IN COUNCIL. AND I CAN DIRECTLYSITE -- SIT DOWN AND MAP OUT WHAT THEY WANT AND HOW WE WANT TO MAKE THIS GO. THANK YOU. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. SDMRL COUNCILORS, . >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR BACA. R-63. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. R-63 ASSIGNED FUNDS FROM THE CORONADO DOG PARK PROPERTY. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. DO PASS. R-63. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IT'S MICHAEL WHO IS NOT IN ATTENDANCE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ADMINISTRATION? ANYTHING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK THAT THE INVESTMENT IN THE INTENT OF COUNCILOR BACA TO ENSURE WE LOOK AT TREE ANDPUTEIFICATION IS IMPORTANT. AND WILL ADD VALUE IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. THE CORONADO PARK THAT WAS THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING OF WHAT IT WAS IS GOING TO AFD, CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, CORONADO PARK, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE DOG PARK IS TO PLAN FOR FIRE STATION THAT IS UNDER DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT AS WE SPEAK. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE IDEA WITH THE DOG PARK NOW? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, OUR GOAL IS TO OFFER IT UP FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR -- FOR A DEVELOPER OR SOMEONE TO DEVELOP BOTH EXPANSION FOR JOBS OR HOUSING DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HAVE COMING TO US. IT WILL GO UP TO AUCTION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE NOW ON ITEM A. FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR GROUT. R-45. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R-45 COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AMENDING THE IMMIGRANT-FRIENDLY POLICY. I MOVE A DO PASS. SDMRL MOTION AND SECOND . >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS. SECONDED BY VICE-PRESIDENT GROUT. GO TO SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS JAY FOLLOWED BY FABIOLA FOLLOWED BY ALEJANDRO. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M WITH NEW MEXICO COALITION OF SEXUAL ASSAULT PROGRAM. THROUGH OUR WORK ADVOCATING FOR SURVIVORS ACROSS NEW MEXICO WE HEAR ABOUT THE OBSTACLES THEY FACE FROM THEMSELVES AND OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS INCLUING NURSES ADVOCATES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE OPPOSE R-45 BECAUSE IT WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT IMMIGRANTS. ANY PROPOSAL THAT INCREASES FEAR OF IMMIGRATION STATUS CREATES ADDITIONAL BARRIERS TO SURVIVORS SEEKING SUPPORT. INDIVIDUALS THAT CAUSE HARM USE IMDPRAGZ STATUS TO CONTROL THEIR VICTIMS. THIS PROPOSAL WILL INTIMIDATE VICTIMS AND STRENGTHEN THE TOOLS THOSE THAT CAUSE HARM TO KEEP THEM QUIET. ADDITIONAL SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES IT MAY BE UNCLEAR WHO IS THE VICTIM. THOSE WHO CAUSE HARM KNOW THE LAWS AND -- VICTIMS ARE ARRESTED AND CHARGED BEFORE THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION BECOMES CLEAR. WITH THIS AMENDMENT THE VICTIMS WILL BE FACING POSSIBLE DEPORTATION. OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SAFER WHEN ALL VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS TRUST THEY CAN COME FORWARD WITHOUT FEAR. >> FABOILOA FOLLOWED BY ALIJANDRO. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER WITH -- AN ORGANIZATION BASED IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO WITH 5500 MEMBERS. I'M A PROUD MOTHER, PROUD IMMIGRANT ASK PROUD U.S. CITIZENING. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE WHERE THE PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE IS GRANTED TO ALL NEW MEXICANS AND NOT ONLY FOR SOME. FOR SOME NEW MEXICANS. OUR COMMUNITIES CALL ALBUQUERQUE HOME. WE CAN NOT ALLOW OUR FAMILIES TO HAVE THE UNCERTAINTY TO BE DETAINED BECAUSE OF SKIN COLOR. WE HOPE YOU CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR -- IF YOU PASS THIS HURTFUL AMENDMENT YOU'RE DOING IT WITH EYES WIDE OPEN ANYING THIS AMENDMENT HURTS ALL NEW MEXICANS. WE MUST MAKE SURE ALL NEW MEXICANS FEEL SAFE SO THERE'S NO COLLABORATION BETWEEN POLICE AND ICE. NOT CREAING FEAR AMONG THEM. I'M ASKING EVERYONE THAT IS IN OPPOSITION TO AMENDMENT R-25 TO STAND UP TODAY. PLEASE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> ALEJANDRO FOLLOWED BY ARCHBISHOP. FOLLOWED BY LEXY. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]? [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ] [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ] >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> I AM A PROUD FATHER AND GRAND FATHER I WORK IN CONSTRUCTION AND AM A PROUD ESSENTIAL WORKER. AS A CONSTRUCTION WORKER I FELL INTO THE HANDS OF EXPLOITED US AND ABUSED MY COWORKERS VERBALLY AND PHYSICALLY HE SAID NO ONE COULD DO ANYTHING TO HIM AND WE HAD NO RIGHTS AND HE USED A FIREARM TO MAKE US WORK HARD. UNTIL LAST OCWHEN -- OCTOBER. HE SHOT ME IN THE LEG. THE ONLY REASON I'M NOT BEHIND BARS IS BECAUSE I RECORDED THE ATTACK AND THEY CONTINUE TO QUESTION THE FACT. WE ENDURED THE ABUSES BECAUSE MY FAMILY NEEDED THE INCOME. THERE'S FRIENDLY CITY POLICY OUR FEAR WAS SO GREAT BECAUSE WE FEAR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM DOES NOT FOCUS ON SEEKING JUSTICE FOR THE VICTIMS. BUT WE SOUGHT THE SUPPORT TO ORGANIZE OURSELVES AND FIGHT AGAINST THE ABUSES. THEY REMINDED US WE HAVE THE FRIENDLY POLICIES AND WE CONTINUED WITH THE CRIMINAL CASE AND HOLD OUR EMPLOYER ACCOUNTABLE. IF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS APPROVED NOT ONLY WILL IT GIVE MORE POWER TO THE ABUSER, BUT THE OFFICER MAY USE RACIAL PROFILING. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN FRIENDLY POLICIES -- VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT THAT SEPARATES FAMILIES THEY NEED TO STAY UNITED. >> ARCHBISHOP LESTER, FOLLOWED BY LETI. FOLLOWED BY OLGA. >> I'M THE ARCHBISHOP OF SANTA FE. I'M A CITIZEN OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M A FORMER DEPARTMENT OF COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS OF CATHOLIC BISHOPED ON COMMITTEE OF IMGRIGZ. I SPEAK AGAINST AMENDMENT 45-45. BECAUSE IT DISCOURAGES AND MAY PREVENT THE UNDOCUMENT IMMIGRANT FROM SEEKING HELP FROM LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. JEOPARDIING THE WELL BEING OF -- WE BELIEVE EVERY CITIZEN INCLUING UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS HAVE A RIGHT TO POLICE PROTECTION. WE FEAR AND KNOW THIS AMENDMENT WILL DESTROY THAT SUPPORT AND THAT TRUST SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. THIS AMENDMENT WILL NOT MAKE ALBUQUERQUE SAFER BUT INSTEAD IT WILL PRODUCE CONDITIONS THAT WILL FURTHER AFFECT PUBLIC SAFETY FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE FIRMLY THAT THE POLICE WILL LOSE THE SUPPORT OF MANY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY WILL LOSE THE SUPPORT OF THE POLICE. >> LITZI FOLLOWED BY OLGA FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN. I'M A FIELD ORGANIZER WITH OURINGINIZED POWER AND NUMBERS. I'M HERE AGAIN TO TELL YOU AND REMIND YOU WHY YOU SHOULD NOT VOTE FOR R-45. THIS WILL SEPARATE FAMILIES. I TELL YOU AS A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHEN MY FATHER GOT DEPORTED. I TELL YOU AS A WORKER WHO HAD TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY FOR MY FAMILY. I NEED YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND RETHINK YOUR DECISIONS WHEN YOU VOTE ON SUPPORTING THIS BILL. WHY? BECAUSE ALL YOU'RE DOING IS HARM. WORKERS WILL NOT COME UP. FAMILIES WILL BE SEPARATED. FAMILIES WILL CHOOSE NOT TO CALL POLICE, FIRE DEPARTMENTS. PEOPLE -- OUR HOUSES WILL BURN DOWN. WHY? BECAUSE WE WILL BECOME SO AFRAID OF THE SYSTEM YOU'RE PROVIING FOR US. THINK ABOUT IT. THINK ABOUT WHY YOU REALLY NEED THIS TO GO ON. DO NOT VOTE FOR THE BILL. THINK FOR THE FAMILIES. THINK FOR THE CHILDREN. THANK YOU. >> OLGA FOLLOWED BY SARAH FOLLOWED BY MATT. >> A PROUD IMMIGRANT MOTHER AND ORGANIZER, AN ORGANIZATION BASED IN ALBUQUERQUE. IN THE PAST PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION MY FAMILY LIVED IN FEAR. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE AFRAID TO TAKE OUR DAUGHTERS TO SCHOOL. NOT ANYING IF WE -- KNOWING IF WE WILL SEE THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY. MY HUSBAND HAD TO GO TO WORK AND MY GIRLS WERE AFRAID WE WOULD NOT COME HOME. ONE DAY MY HUSBAND SAID DO NOT GO OUT MUCH I'M AFRAID FOR YOU AND THE GIRLS. WHEN WE FOUND OUT ALBUQUERQUE HAD A FRIENDLY CITY POLICY EVERYTHING CHANGED. TODAY I KNOW IF MY FAMILY HAS EMERGENCY WE WILL FEEL SAFE AND CONFIDENT IN REPORTING INCIDENTS TO THE POLICE WHEN NECESSARY. WE CAN GO OUT AND FEEL SECURE THAT WE WILL RETURN HOME. NOW, WE FEEL THAT CONFIDENCE TO LIVE IN THIS STATE AND THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. WHICH MOTIVATES US TO CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS ECONOMY AND -- WHICH WILL MAKE US VULNERABLE AGAIN. WE CANNOT ALLOW IT -- WE'RE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND TARGET OF ABUSES. WITHOUT THE RIGHT OF PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE. VOTE AGAINST AMENDMENT R-24-45. THANK YOU. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY MATT FOLLOWED BY JESSICA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SARAH YIELDED HER TIME TO ME. I AM MATT WITH -- 24-YEAR-OLD COMMUNITY EMBEDDED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICE PROVIDER SERVING THE LATIN AND AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT EVERY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THEIR CASES. WE KNOW AND DV VICTIMS KNOW AND EXPRESSED HERE TONIGHT THAT R-24-45 WOULD NOT PROTECT THEM. IN FACT, IT WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE. MANY OF THE ABUSERS USE POLICIES AGAINST VICTIMS. TELLING THEM IF THEY REPORT ABUSE THEY'LL LOSE THEIR CHILDREN, THEY WILL BE ARRESTED OR DEPORTED. AND WE HAVE DEALT WITH CASES OF EACH OF THOSE TYPES. R-24-45 IS NOT A SOLUTION AND WILL FOSTER MORE FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY AND LESS LIKELY THEY WILL REPORT ABUSE. THANK YOU. >> MATT FOLLOWED BY JESSICA MARTINEZ FOLLOWED BY ALONDRA. >> I YIELD MY TIME TO JESSICA. >>. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF POLICY AT NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF RESOLUTION 45 BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH OUR VALUES AND WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS CONCERN AS IMMIGRATION ATTORNEYS AND COMMUNITY BASED EXPERTS THAT OUR EXPERTISE IS DISMISSED. THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE ON PART OF THE SPONSORS OF THE RESOLUTION. LET ME BE CLEAR, WE REPRESENT SURVIVORS WHO WERE FALSELY REPORTED TO POLICE BY ABUSERS. THIS IS A COMMON TACTIC USED BY ABUSERS AND IT TAKES TIME FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SORT IT OUT. THIS AMENDMENT WILL EMPOWER ABUSERS SO THEY WILL BE DEPORTED BASED ON CHARGES ALONE BEFORE THEY'RE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE CASE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROSECUTION OF THE ABUSER. WE KNOW WITH CERTAINLY THAT ANY COLLABORATION BETWEEN ICE AND POLICE MEANS THAT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WILL LIVE IN FEAR AND SUFFER IN SILENCE ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. WE ARE SAFER AS A COMMUNITY WHEN WE APPROACH POLICIES BY WORKING WITH THOSE MOST IMPACTED. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS OR MORELY PASSED. >> ALONDRA FOLLOWED BY DESHONDA. >> I'M A PARALEGAL AND POLICY ADVOCATE AT THE NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER. THROUGH MY WORK I HAVE SEEN FIRST HAND THE IMPORTANCE OF TRUST BETWEEN IMMIGRANTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. R-24 WOULD SHATTER THIS TRUST AND PROMOTE FEAR OF DEPORTATION. THIS WILL RESULT IN AN UNSAFE SOCIETY WHERE IMMIGRANTS WILL SUFFER AND SEE THEIR AGGRESSORS GO IN -- UNPUNISHED. IF THE CHARGES ARE DROPPED, UNDER R-24-45 THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE. THAT PERSON IS CIVILLY DETAINED BY IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES AND FACES DEPORTATION. BEING IN ICE DETENTION MAY FRUSTRATE THE PROCESS AND THAT CIVIL IMMIGRATION DETEPGZ -- OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION POLICIES DO NOT PREVENT THE ARREST OR INVESTIGATION OF ANY INDIVIDUAL THEREFORE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST A POLICY THAT IS CREATED TO SPECIFICALLY TARGET PEOPLE OF COLOR. THANK YOU. >> DESHONDA FOLLOWED BY AURORA FOLLOWED BY SACHI. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY AND LEGAL DIRECTOR AT SANTA FE DREAMERS PROJECT. AN IMMIGRATION LEGAL SERVICE PROVIDER THAT SERVES ALL OF NEW MEXICO AND HAS AN OFFICE IN ALBUQUERQUE TO SERVE ALBUQUERQUE CLIENTS. I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO VOTE IN OPPOSITION. MOST OF MY CAREER IS FOCUSED ON SERING IMMIGRANT SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. IT'S BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE THAT R-45 IS NOT ABOUT PROTECTING VICTIMS OF CRIME. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT HOW THIS AMENDMENT WILL DESTROY VICTIMS AND FAMILIES. YEARS AGO I WORKED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL SUBJECTED TO CLIENT E TO GET A HUMANITARIAN VISA. IF THIS IS ADOPTED MY CLIENT WOULD HAVE LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIGHT THE CHARGE AND WOULD HAVE LOST THE OPPORTUNITY TO OBTAIN A TRAFFICKING VISA BECAUSE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS THE SIMPLE ACT OF BEING DEPORTED REMOVES ELIGIBILITY TO APPLY FOR THE VISA. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> AURORA FOLLOWED BY SACHI AND FOLLOWED BY ANDRES. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM THE POLICY MANAGER AND COORDINAOR FOR THE ECONOMIC JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AT NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER NON-PROFIT LEGAL ORGANIZATION OFFERING SERVICES TO NEW MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS. I'M COMMENTING IN OPPOSITION TO R-24-45. IN MY ROLE, I OFTEN GUIDE THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY SEEKING ENTREPRENEURSHIP THROUGH ECONOMIC MOEBALITY. IT'S CRUCIAL TO RECOGNIZE IMMIGRANTS PLAY ROLE IN BOLSTERRING THE ECONOMY. IN NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANTS SUPPORT THE LOAL ECONOMY CONTRIBUTING TO SECTORS INCLUING TO 15% OF ENTREPRENEUR, MORE THAN 9% OF STEM WORKERS, AND 19% OF PERSONAL CARE AIDS. AS NEIGHBORSNEIGHBORS, BUSINESS TAXPAYERS AND WORKERS, IMMIGRANTS ENRICH AND DIVERSITY THE STATE MAKING SUBSTANTIAL AND INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS. THE CURRENT IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICY CREATED UNITY WITH APD AND THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. AND THE TRUST IS EVIDENT. LET US CONTINUE TO BUILD COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT BY WORKING TO REASSURE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THEY CAN TRUST THE POLICE AND DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES. THANK YOU. >> SACHI FOLLOWED BY ANDRES FOLLOWED BY THERESA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT VICE-PRESIDENT MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO ASIAN FAMILY CENTER. I'M HERE TO VOICE OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT R-24-45. OUR ORGANIZATION WORKS WITH SURVIVORS LIVING IN ALBUQUERQUE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WHO SHARE THEIR STORIES IN ACCESS OF SAFETY AND HEALING. WE HAVE STORIES OF ABUSERS USING THE THREAT OF DEPORTATION TO CONTROL VICTIMS. THE AMENDMENT ENABLES ABUSERS. THE VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING CONFESS THEIR DEEP FEAR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. SURVIVORS WILL BE HESITANT TO COME FORWARD AND CHILDREN WILL BE FROIRD AFRAID TO REPORT ABUSE AT HOME. I UNDERSTAND HOW CHALLENING IT IS TO COME FORWARD AND SEEK HELP. WE SHOULD BUILD TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY NOT THREATENING IT. SO ALL ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS CAN ACCESS THE SAFETY THEY'RE ENTITLED TO. I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THIS HARMFUL AMENDMENT AND PRIORITIZE POLICIES THAT PROMOTE SAFETY, EQUITY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL REZ REZDANTS. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> ANDRES FOLLOWED BY THERESA FOLLOWED BY JULIA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I WORK AS A CAMPAIGN MANAGER AT THE NEW MEXICO DREAM TEAM LARGEST NETWORK OF IMMIGRANT YOUTH IN NEW MEXICO. IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN IMMIGRANTS COMMIT FAR LESS CRIME THAN THE NATIVE POPULATION. NOT ONLY THIS BUT YOUNG MEN OF COLOR ARE RACIALLY PROFILED. THIS AMENDMENT LEADS TO RACIALLY PROFILING YOUNG IMMIGRANT MEN AND PUT THEM IN VULNERABLE POSITION. I REMIND YOU OF THE CASE OF CARLOS GONZALEZ IN 2004. THEY WERE SEIZED AND TURNED OVER TO U.S. BORDER PATROL. THEY FILED A FEDERAL LAWSUIT ALLEGING THAT APS ADMINISTRATORS VIOLATED THE STUDENTS RIGHTS. THIS LAWSUIT RESULTED IN STRENGTHENING OUR IMMIGRANT POLICIES SO APS AND APD DO NOT COLLECT ANY DATA ON ANY INDIVIDUALS IMMIGRATION STATUS. INSTEAD OF CRIMINALIZING. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. >> WE URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST R-24-45. >>COUN. LEWIS: VANESSA FOLLOWED BY JULIA FOLLOWED BY JOHN. >> HONORABLE COUNSEL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OFFENSE COUNCIL, I COME BEFORE YOU AS THE CHAIR -- DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANT AND DESCENDANT OF THE TRIBE. MY COCHAIR AND I PRESENTED THE RESOLUTION AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOUR SUPPORT TO NOT PASS THIS POLICY BUT FUND PROGRAMS LIKE WHO SIT ON OUR COMMISSION AND OFFER SERVICES TO LATIN AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. PLEASE FUND AND FOR OUR PRIOR ASK IN THE AMOUNT OF $1.8 MILLION. ALONGSIDE FUNDING REQUESTED FOR THE CONTINUANCE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE UNIT PRESENTED EARIER TO MAKE SURE SURVIVORS ARE ADVOCATED AND MAKE SURE THEY GET THE JUSTICE THEY DESERVE AND NOT CRIMINALIZE FALSELY. THEY DESERVE TO NOT BE CRIMINALIZED AND ARRESTED WHICH HAPPENS IN 50% OF CASES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE COMMISSION IMPLORES YOUR SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS AND SURVIVORS BY INVESTING INESSENTIAL SERVICES WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ADDRESSING INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE AND ADVOCATE FOR SURVIVORS. THANK YOU. >> JULIA FOLLOWED BY JOHN FOLLOWED BY EMILY. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST R-24-45. I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICES WINGS PROGRAM FOR SURVIVORS OF TORTURE. AS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM WINGS WORKS WITH CHILDREN ADULTS AND FAMILIES. FROM NUMEROUS COUNTRIES AND REGIONS THAT SURVIVED SOME OF THE MOST EGREGIOUS ACTS AND EXERCISED THEIR INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS. MANY COME FROM ENVIRONMENTS WHERE POLICE AND GOVERNMENTS ENACTED HARM UPON THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. IT'S CRUCIAL THEY BE ABLE TO TRUST THE AUTHORITIES WHEN THEY SAY THEY THEY'RE WORKING FOR THE PROTECTION OF ALL RESIDENTS. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS I URGE YOU TO VIEW IMMIGRATION THROUGH HUMAN RIGHT AND DIGNITY. TO BUILD COMMUNITY RATHER THAN SEPARATE IT. AND CONTINUE ALBUQUERQUE'S LEGACY OF IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICIES THAT PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELL BEING OF ALL RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> JOHN FOLLOWED BY EMILY FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING. I'M A MEMBER OF FIRST CONGREGATION OF UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST. AND CHAIR OF THE IMMIGRATION JUSTICE LEAGUE. REVEREND HINTEN THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW MEXICO CONFERENCE OF CHURCHES ASKED ME TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A LETTER SHE SENT ALL OF YOU. I'D LIKE TO READ THE BEGINNING AND ENDING OF THE LETTER. SHE BEGINS WITH THE WORDS OF JESUS. I WAS A STRANGER AND YOU WELCOMED ME. AT THE NEW MEXICO CONFERENCE OF CHURCHES WE BELIEVE THE STRANGERS ARE TO BE WELCOMED INTO OUR CITIES, WE UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT AN INVITATION OR OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE BUT A MANDATE OF JESUS CHRIST. AND SHE ENDS, WE'RE CALLED BY OUR RELIGIOUS TRADITIONS TO PROTEST AGAINST INJUSTICE AND SPEAK FOR THE MARGINALIZED. OUR DECRY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> EMILY FOLLOWED BY TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY SABA. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. BORN AND RAISED IN ALBUQUERQUE AND IN THE SOUTH VALLEY. SPENT MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE ADVOCATING FOR MARGINALIZED FOLKS. I'M DIRECTOR OF IMMIGRATION AT CATHOLIC CHARITIES. THIS IS A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AMENDMENT AND WILL HAVE A CHILLING IMPACT ON OUR IMDPRNT COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. ENFORCING FALSE NARRATIVES HAS DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS. INCLUING PLATFORM FOR HATE GROUPS. DIRECTING ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH ICE WILL CAUSE RACIAL PROFILING ARRESTS. HOW DOES A POLICE KNOW WHO IS IMMIGRANT OR CITIZEN WITHOUT RACIAL PROFILING. THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW SOMEONE'S IMMIGRATION STATUS WITHOUT MAKING THE RACIALLY PROFILED. WE STAND AND OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AND URGE THE COUNCIL TO STAND PROUD OF BEING AN IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY THAT WELCOMES AND PROTECTS EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS AMENDMENT. >> TIFFANY FOLLOWED BY SABA FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M GIVING TESTIMONY AS A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BEHALF OF INNOVATION LAW LAB AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO IMMIGRANT JUSTICE. I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON R-24-45 BECAUSE IT WILL HARM IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND FAILS TO ADDRESS HAD THE NEEDS OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES. CONTRARY TO THE INFORMATION THAT THE CITY WILL NOT DISCRIMINATE BASED ON IMMIGRATION STATUS R-24-45 DOES THAT. INDIVIDUALS TRANSFERRED TO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION WILL END UP IN ICE DETENTION FACILITY WHERE MOST OF THE INDIVIDUALS I WORK WITH ARE HELD. THE CONDITIONS OF THE FACILITIES AND DIFFICULTIES OF CONTACTING LOVED ONE AND LACK OF DUE PROCESS AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AND SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND LACK OF POTABLE WATER ARE NOT WHAT ANYONE DESERVES TO GO THROUGH. THIS AMENDMENT IS NONEFFECTIVE. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS LIMITED RESOURCES AND SHOULD USE THOSE TO ADDRESS UNDERLYING ISSUES. I WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFER AND HEALTHY ALBUQUERQUE THIS AMENDMENT GOES AGAINST NEW MEXICAN VALUES. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> SABA FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY -- >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I WORK AS A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST FOR THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES OF NEW MEXICO. WE HAVE DEFENDED LIBERTY IN NEW MEXICO SINCE 1962. WE OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT FOR ALL THE REASONS MENTIONED. WE UNDERSTAND PUBLIC SAFETY MAY BE THE GOAL BUT AS WE'VE HEARD THIS AMENDMENT MAY ACTUALLY DO THE OPPOSITE. AND WE THINK THAT STRIPPING THE ENTIRE CLASS OF PEOPLE OF DUE PROCESS RIGHTS IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT PROMOING PUBLIC SAFETY. FURTHER, WE RISK DEPORTING PEOPLE BEFORE THEY EVEN HAVE THEIR DAY IN COURT. I'M ALSO STANDING BEFORE YOU NOT AS AN -- AS A SON OF AN IMDPRNT. -- IMMIGRANT. MY FATHER RAISED ME AND MY TWO SISTERS. WE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY. I ASKED IF IMMIGRANTS MADE OUR CITY, STATE AND COUNTRY, WHY ARE WE TRYING TO STRIP THEM OF THEIR RIGHTS AND DUE PROCESS RIGHTS? THANK YOU. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY DANICA FOLLOWED BY SHERRY. >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS FOR ME NOT EMOTIONAL. IT'S JUST STATISTICS. WE'RE WAITING FOR AN ATTACK. LET'S SAY ICE NEEDS TO COME FOR TERRORISTS AND THERE'S NOT A SYSTEM TO DO IT. I REALLY DON'T CARE. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE NUMBERS. IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING TO LET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE ELECTION DAY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT NEXT YEAR, MAYBE NEXT YEAR YOU CAN HAVE THIS MEETING AGAIN. THIS YEAR, IF YOU DON'T DO IT, WE'RE TARGET NUMBER ONE FOR EVERY TERRORIST GROUP. ESPECIALLY AS LIBERAL AS THE COMMUNITY HAS BECOME. WE'RE A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT. HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, FOR ME, AS A PRODUCER OF THE JOB, I HOPE IT HAPPEN. I HOPE THEY GO TO THE NEXT WEEK -- SO YOU GUYS STOP MOLESTING CHILDREN. >> DANICA FOLLOWED BY SHERRY FOLLOWED BY ITSARA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M THE DISTRIBUTE DEFENDER FOR THE LAW OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC DEFENDER IN THE SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT. THE RESOLUTION PERSECUTES RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE WITHOUT AFFORDING THEM DUE PROCESS. OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS BASED IN THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE SNIPT INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. THIS RESOLUTION PUNISHES INDIVIDUALS THAT FLEE BECAUSE OF HORRENDOUS CONDITIONS THAT CAUSE TRAUMA. ALL OF THE PEOPLE ARE FACING UNCERTAINTY. MOST ARE HOMELESS FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME WITHOUT JOBS FACING FOOD INSECURITY AND FEARING CONSTANTLY FOR THEIR SAFETY. AND WITH THE COUNCIL ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH THIS RESOLUTION IS -- THE POSSIBILITY OF FREEDOM. THIS ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PREJUDICE PEOPLE WHO MAY -- I'M SORRY, ALLOWS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PRE-JUDGE PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE JUST BEEN IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME OR MAY SUFFER FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR MENTAL ILLNESS. ALLOWING THE FELLOW HUMANS TO BE OUSTED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS IS WRONG. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> SHERRY FOLLOWED BY ITSARA FOLLOWED BY ADEO. >> THANK YOU. NEW MEXICO ASIAN FAMILY IS ONE OF THE DEDICATED NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BEFORE YOU. COMING TO ASK ABOUT R-24-45 AND TAKE A PAUSE. RECONSIDER YOUR VOTES ON PASSING AN ORDINANCE THAT MAY HAVE HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ASK THAT YOU REMEMBER THE STRENGTH OF IMMIGRANTS AND SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE TO BUILD A BASE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND MINE AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE SPECIFIC SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE SURVIVORS OFFERED BY ORGANIZATIONS WITH US TODAY. WE NEED COMPASSION AND EMPATHY OF U.S. LEADERS AND POLICIES AND WHAT IS BEING PUSHED UNDER THE GUISE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT REALLY VILIFIES IMMIGRANTS. START TO END GENDER BASED VIOLENCE BY RECOGNIZING THAT VIOLENCE IS PERPETRATED BY SYSTEMS OF POWER. AS A DAUGHTER OF AN OFFICER, A MOM, NATURALIZED CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, SEEN, HEARD, BELIEVED, RESPECTED SURVIVORS AND BEEN A WITNESS OF OPPRESSION AND SYSTEMIC HARM. INCLUING THREATS OF DEPORTATION PLEASE CONSIDER 45 IS HARMFUL. >> ITSARA FOLLOWED BY ADEO FOLLOWED BY MIKE. ADEO FOLLOWED BY MIKE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I AM HERE TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. AS SOMEONE WHO LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR A LONG TIME, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE STRONGER FOR OUR IMMIGRANT POPULATION. FOR OUR IMMIGRANT FRIENDS. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS. I FIELD ALL MY TIME TO IMMIGRANTS, AND PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL THINGS TO SAY ON THIS TOPIC. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOU CAN'T YIELD YOUR TIME. THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. >> MIKE FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ST. MICHAEL EPISCOPAL CHURCH. I RISE TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL ON MORAL GROUNDS. ST. MICHAELS TAKE KRSLY THE BIBLICAL MANDATE TO WELCOME THE IMMIGRANTS IN OUR MIDST. I CAN TELL YOU THIS PROPOSAL MAKES OUR COMMUNITY NERVOUS. THERE ARE MANY MIXED STATUS FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS WHERE ONE MEMBER HAS STATUS AND ANOTHER MEMBER IS SEEKING STATUS WHO WOULD BE LESS LIKELY TO WORK WITH THE POLICE OR LESS LIKELY TO TRUST OFFICERS. ERODING TRUST IS A MORAL FAILURE. IT WOULD PARTICIPATE IN A NATIONAL POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT WHERE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ARE DEMONIZED. TODAY IN THE NEW YORK TIMES CATHOLIC CHARITIES WAS PUB LUSIZED BY HOW MANY DEATH THREATS ARE HAPPENING AGAINST CATHOLIC CHARITIES BECAUSE OUR CLIMATE OF IMMIGRANT POLITICS. ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO SEND A SIGNAL OF IMMIGRANT WELCOME. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY TORBA ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILLORS, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. MY MOTHER CAME TO AMERICA ON A STUDENT VISA. SHE'S FROM OFF THE COAST OF SOUTH AMERICA. PART OF THE ABC ISLANDS. FORMERLY THE COLONIES OF THE DUTCH. SHE MET MY DAD, A U.S. MARINE AT A DANCE IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY HAVE BEEN GROSS EVER SINCE. WHEN MY PARENTS GOT MARRIED IT WAS ILLEGAL TO HAVE INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY WERE ARRESTED FOR BEING MARRIED. THE EVIDENCES OF THE UNION SAT AT A POLICE STATION UNTIL THE POLICE DECIDED THEY WERE ALL RIGHT BECAUSE MY MOM WAS A FOREIGN THAT SPOKE SIX LANGUAGES AND MY DAD WAS IN THE MILITARY. I'M A FIRST GENERATION ON MY MOM'S SADE. MY GRADE GAND PARENTS ON MY DADS SIDE CAME TO ELLIS ISLAND. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE RECONSIDER THE 45 PROPOSAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> SORBA FOLLOWED BY JAVIVE EVRECEIVE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE NEW MEXICO CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYERS ASSOCIATION. AN ORGANIZATION OF CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. WE ARE URGING YOU TO VOTE NO ON R-24-45. THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICY. FIRST OF ALL THE TERM VIOLENT FELONY IS NOT DEFINED IN THIS BILL. NOR ELSEWHERE IN THE NEW MEXICO CRIMINAL CODE. THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM. SECOND THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES SERIOUS LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES FOR A PERSON WHO IS MERELY CHARGED NOT BUT CONVICTED. THAT VIOLATES OUR CONSTITUTIONAL PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE. AND DUE PROCESS. THERE'S THIS CIVIL -- IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE AFRAID TO COOPERATE IN THE JUDICIAL PROCESS AND COME TO COURT VIP WHEN THEY'RE INNOCENT. IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE AFRAID TO COOPERATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. I LISTENED TO THE D.A.'S OFFICE PRESENTATION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. IT WILL MAKE THE PROSECUTION MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE SOME VICTIMS WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO REPORT AND COOPERATE. AND I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON R-24-45. >> JAVIVE RECEIVE JAVIVER. >> I'M A POLICY ANALYST WITH NEW MEXICO VOICES FOR CHILDREN. AFTER STUDYING THE IMPACT IMMIGRANTS FOR ON THE ECONOMY. AND THIS IMPACT HAS BEEN POSITIVE. ACCORD TO OUR RESEARCH IMMIGRANTS PAY MORE THAN FAIR SHARE IN TAXES. UNDOCUMENTED PNEUMNEW MEXICAN NEW MEXICO IMMIGRANTS BAY A BILLION IN STATE AND LOCAL TAXES EVERY YEAR. THEY STIMULATE THE LOCAL ECONOMY. IMMIGRANTS OWN BUSINESSES IN NEW MEXICO AND GENERATE 4.4 IN ANNUAL SALES. IMMIGRANTS SPEND $3.2 BILLION IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY. THE ORDINANCE -- IMMIGRANTS ACCOUNT FOR 12% OF THE STATE'S ECONOMIC OUTPUT. WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE SHARE AS A POPULATION. THE KEY REASON FOR THE HIGH SHARE IS IMMIGRANTS ARE CONCENTRATED IN PRIME WORKING AGE. THEY MAKE UP 12% OF THE WORKING AGE POPULATION AND 12% OF THE LABOR FORCE. IN CONCLUSION. >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT SPEAKER. >> MARY ELEN FOLLOWED BY MOLLY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE-PRESIDENT, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW MEXICO COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WHO REPRESENTS 32 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE -- I WANT FOR YOU TO PAUSE AND RECOGNIZE THE POWERFUL VOICES SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE BEEN UPLIFTING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS REGARDING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF MEASURES SUCH AS R-24-45. WE KNOW THAT 70% OF IMMIGRANT SURVIVORS CITE FEAR OF REPRISAL AND DO NOT ACTIVATE SYSTEMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE OF FEAR. IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WE HAVE LEGACY OF PASSING IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICY AND PROTECT IMMIGRANTS AND INCREASE OUR SYSTEM AND SECURE SAFETY. THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO REPORT TO OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND MULTIPLE STUDIES PUBLISHED HAVE SAID THAT SANCTUARY POLICIES HAVE NO MEASUABLE EFFECT ON CRIME RATES AND ONE STUDY FOUND SANCTUARY POLICIES REDUCE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. NO STUDIES DEMONSTRATE A LINK BETWEEN SANCTUARY CITIES AND INCREASED CRIME. THERE'S STUDIES BETWEEN 2017 AND 2020 -- >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> MOLLY FOLLOWED BY -- >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I AM AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT IN COUNCILOR GROUT'S DISTRICT. I COME FROM A BLENDED FAMILY. MY STEPMOTHER AND THREE OF MY SIBLINGS ARE FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANTS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. THEY ARE MOTHERS FATHERS, NURSES AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS. I STAND IN OPPOSITION ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY. THE CHANGES PROPOSED WILL LEAD TO HIGHER RATES OF RACIAL PROFILING. AND CREATE A CHILLING FACTOR WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS NO LONGER FEEL SAFE TO REPORT CRIME, HEALTH EMERGENCIES. THIS WILL RESULT IN THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT OUR AGENCY SHOULD PROMOTE YETTED YIELDING A SAFE AND STABLE COMMUNITY. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS AMENDMENT. >> YOU ARE STILL MUTED. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, PLEASE PROCEED. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE ONE MINUTE? >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. HAPPY -- I WANT TO SAY SHAME COUNCILORS THAT CUT TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO COUNTLESS TESTIMONY FROM THE COMMUNITY. I'M HERE TO SAY NO AND OPPOSE THE AMENDMENT FOR R-24-45. WE'RE A PROUD BILINGUAL STATE. WE ARE PROUD OF OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW I'M FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT. I CAME INTO THIS COUNTRY IN MY MOM'S BELLY. I HAVE A LOT OF LOVE AND SUPPORT FOR OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. BECAUSE I WAS GRANTED CITIZENSHIP I'M ABLE TO DO AMAZING WORK IN SCHOOLS ACROSS THE CITY. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO R-24-45. I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN ON THE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT. OUR IMMIGRANT FAMILIES ARE AMAZING. WE SHOULD BE A SANCTUARY CITY, A SANCTUARY STATE. WE SHOULD GREAT PEOPLE WITH BEADS VERUS CAGES AND INCARCERATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? LAST ONE? >> ARTURO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M ARTURO A QUEER NON-BINARY RESIDENT FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS OF MY LIFE. I KNOW THE FEAR OF HAVING PARENTS AND FAMILY INTERROGATED BY ICE. I KNOW THE FEAR OF DEPORTATION OF LOVED ONES. LEAVING FAMILIES TO STRUGGLE WITHOUT PARENTS AND FAMILY. AS A QUEER PERSON AND LATINX PERSON MY COMMUNITY IS IN THE MOST DANGER OF VICTIMS OF HATE-BASED VIOLENCE OR SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKED BY -- PREVENTING APD FROM CLAB RAALITYING WITH COLLABORATING WITH ICE HAS WORKED FOR YEARS IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT PROTECTS SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AS THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION SPEND THE NEXT MONTH APPLAUDING THEMSELVES BEING A FRIENDLY LGBTQ FOR PRIDE MONTH, IMMIGRANT PEOPLE ARE QUEER TOO. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR R-45. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. WE'RE ON R-45. BACK TO THE SPONSORS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COM. BENSON: OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR APD. AND THEN I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMMENTS. SO I CAN EITHER WAY TO SAY THEM OR START NOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU GOT THE FLOOR, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COM. BENSON: I HAVE ONE . >>COUN. BASSAN: I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR APD. DC BROWN, APPROXIMATELY, HOW MANY ARRESTS ARE MADE PER WEEK THAT FALL INTO THE CATEGORY LISTED IN THIS LEGISLATION? >> APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 50 A WEEK. >>COM. BENSON: . >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. THAT'S NO PARTICULAR RACE OR COLOR? >> I'M SORRY. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, MY APOLOGIES. YES. IT'S ABOUT 50 A WEEK. THAT FALLS UNDER ALL. >>COM. BENSON: >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I WANT TO START WITH SAYING THE INTENT BEHIND THIS IS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S A POINT AT WHICH IN ALBUQUERQUE WE HAVE GOTTEN TO WHERE TRULY SOME VIOLENT PREDATORS COME HERE TO SAY THEY COME HERE ON PURPOSE KNOWING THEY CAN'T BE DEPORTED AND WON'T BE DEPORTED AND WON'T HAVE ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM ONCE THEY PREY ON OUR CITY. AND THEY HURT OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUING THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN CALLED RACIST. AND ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, THE HYPOCRISY THAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS IS INCREDIBLE. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I'M RACIST, I HAVE NOT SAID A CERTAIN COLOR OF SKIN IS -- YOU KNOW WHAT, I GAVE YOU YOUR TIME. MR. PRESIDENT, I GAVE THEM THEIR TIME TO SPEAK. I WOULD HOPE THAT I GET MY TIME. WITHOUT MOCKERY. I WILL YIELD TO THE REST OF THE COUNCILORS AND LET ME CLOSE AT THE END. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR GROUT. SDMRG THANK YOU, . >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY GRANDPARENTS CAME HERE THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND FROM LEBANON IN 1908. THEY CAME FOR A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR FAMILIES ASK TO -- AND TO CREATE A FAMILY. THEY WORKED HARD AND THEY DID PROVIDE FOR US. I SAW -- I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS COUNTRY COME FOR THAT VERY REASON AND ARE SUCCESSFUL AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. I KNOW LOTS OF IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE GREAT PEOPLE. THEY MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES. THEY ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT THEM TO BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T WANT THE CRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS IN MY COMMUNITY THAT HURT US AND HURT A GOOD IMMIGRANT PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE. AND THAT IS THE INTENT FOR THIS. I THINK THAT THERE ARE CRIMINAL IMMIGRANTS THAT PREY ON THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS COUNTRY. AND SO THAT IS MY REASONING FOR TRYING TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE. IF A CRIMINAL IMMIGRANT IS SAYING SOMETHING TO YOU THAT IS TO SCARE YOU, I THINK THAT'S WRONG. THAT IS NOT A GOOD INTEPT. -- INSTENT. THAT'S NOT SOMEBODY YOU SHOULD BE AROUND. YOU SHOULDN'T BE AROUND THAT KIND OF PERSON. I THINK THEY'RE NOT HELPING YOU. MY INTENT IS -- WE HAD A REAL BAD PROBLEM IN THIS CITY WITH FENTANYL USE. WE KNOW IT'S COMING THROUGH THE SOUTHERN BORDER. VIA CHINA. PERHAPS RUSSIA. ALL OVER IT'S COMING FROM ALL OVER THESE PLACES. ANY OF THE PEOPLE COMING WITH IT AND ATTACKING OUR CITY, THEY SHOULD NOT BE WELCOMED. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CREAING THE HAVOC AND HURTING THE PEOPLE. FRIDAY NIGHT I WENT ON A RIDE-ALONG. WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT REACHES OUT TO HUMAN TRAFFICKERS AND MY GOODNESS, WHAT I SAW WAS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU HEARD ME TALK MANY TIMES WHEN I GO UP CENTRAL. AND I SEE WHAT I SEE GOING UP CENTRAL AND I GO HOME AND HOW SAD IT IS. AND HOW IT'S NOT OKAY. I GOT A NEW LEVEL OF UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL ON FRIDAY. BY GOD, IF ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE -- I'M JUST -- IT WAS TRAUMATIZING FOR ME TO SEE WHAT I SAW. IF ANY OF THE PEOPLE COMING HERE ILLEGALLY OR THAT ARE UNDOCUMENTED, IT DOESN'T MATTER -- YOU NEED TO BE FOLLOWING OUR LAWS. AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DRUG TRAFFICKING ARE NOT OKAY. SO, THIS IS JUST -- IT'S NOT A -- FAMILIES SHOULD NOT BE SCARED -- THEY SHOULD NOT BE SCARED TO -- IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR HOME THAT IS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, THAT IS NOT OKAY. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL AND IN THIS LEGISLATION, IN THIS AMENDMENT IT'S NOT GETTING RID OF IMMIGRANT -- IT IS NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF YOU. THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. WE'RE SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING WRONG IN OUR COMMUNITY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S ALSO SAYING THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO INFORM THE ICE. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE DEPORTED BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ON THE RADAR. THE BAD PERSON THAT'S COMMITTING THE CRIMES. THAT'S WHAT IT IS SAYING. YOU WILL GO THROUGH DUE PROCESS. THAT PERP WILL GO THROUGH DUE PROCESS AND IT'S UP TO ICE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITIES TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES SAFER. AGAIN, I'M AN IMMIGRANT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND BE IN THIS COUNTRY. I JUST WANT TO HAVE IT SAFER FOR CHILDREN AND FOR THOSE THAT COME HERE TO WORK AND RAISE A FAMILY SAFELY. THAT IS MY INTENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: GO TO COUNCILOR ROGERS AND COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT -- I LOVE LOOKING AT DATA AND RESEARCH. AND NOT RHETORIC. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AS THIS BODY BASED ON FACTS NOT OPINIONS. BASED ON RESEARCH, PROCEEDING OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS ONE RESEARCH STUDY THAT ALREADY COMPARED CRIME RATES BETWEEN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND NATIVE BORNE UNITED STATES CITIZENS. AND THEY'RE FINDING SAID THAT THE FOLKS COMMITTING THESE PARTICULAR VIOLENT CRIMES SEEKS TO DEPORT. IT SHOWS THAT NATURAL BORN CITIZENS OF THE U.S. COMMIT THOSE CRIMES AT THE HIGHEST RATE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO POSE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIX THAT? BECAUSE IT'S THE NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS THAT ARE DOING THESE VIOLENT CRIMES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS AMENDMENT. AND SO, I WOULD LIKE THIS BODY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO BE DOING ABOUT THE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS THAT ARE DOING THESE CRIMES ? VIOLENT CRIMES, SEXUAL TRAFFICS, HUMAN TRAFFICKING, DRUG TRAFFICKING. THAT'S NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. NOT UP -- UNDOCUMENTED. FROM MY LIVED EXPERIENCE AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, I BELIEVE MY COLLEAGUES THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP PUBLIC SAFETY. FROM THEIR VANTAGE POINT. THE ONLY -- WE CAN ONLY SEE THE WORLD FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT. FOR ME MY VANTAGE POINT IS WORK ING IN THE COMMUNITY. MY VANTAGE POINT TELLS ME THIS CREATES FEAR. REGARDLESS OF THE POINT OF THE LEGISLATION FOR VIOLENT CRIME AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DRUG TRAFFICKING. THIS CREATES FEAR. BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD BAD ACTORS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ABUSE THIS POWER. WE DO HAVE COMMUNITIES WHO WILL NOT REPORT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO THEM FOR FEAR OF INTERABLTHING ACT INTERACTING WITH ONE OF THE BAD ACTORS. PLEASE DO NOT GET WRONG WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE FEAR THIS CREATES IS HARMFUL AND IT WILL AMOUNT TO PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO COME FORWARD IF THEY'RE A VICTIM OF CRIME, IF THEY WITNESS A CRIME THEY WILL BE AFRAID TO COME FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT I HEAR EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN I'M TALKING TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S THE FEAR THAT THIS IMMIGRANT-FRIENDLY LEGISLATION TOOK AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY IN WORKING TOGETHER WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT SO THEY FEEL SAFE HERE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT THESE THINGS. I WOULD LIKE US TO DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT'S GOING TO HOLD THE PEOPLE DOING THESE CRIMES ACCOUNTABLE RATHER THAN CRIMINALIZING FOLKS WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE DOING THESE CRIMES. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. A FEW QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO START WITH APD. DEPUTY BROWN. I JUST WANTED TO EXPAND ON COUNCILOR BASSAN'S QUESTION. 50 ARRESTS A WEEK THAT QUALIFY UNDER VIOLENT CRIME? >> KWOS, MR. PRESIDENT. >> I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR BASSAN ASKED -- >>COUN. BACA: SHE ASKED HOW MANY FALL UNDER VIOLENT CRIME? >> 50. SDMRB HOW MANY BLNG. >>COUN. BACA: HOW MANY ARE CHARGED? THEY'RE ALL CHARGED? HOW MANY ACTUALLY GO TO PROSECUTION? >> I'M NOT SURE. PROBABLY -- WE BOOK THEM. THE D.A.'S OFFICE BRINGS THE CHARGE. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BACA: OKAY. IF I'M CORRECT, D.A. TORREZ SAID THIS WOULD BE A NEGATIVE TO PASS THIS LAW. I'M CURIOUS, DID WE RUN THIS THROUGH IMMIGRANT ATTORNEYS? WOULD THIS ACTUALLY FOLLOW OUR DUE PROCESS? OR WOULD THIS OPEN US UP TO LITIGATION ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, AS PART OF THE DRAFTING PROCESS WE DID NOT CONSULT WITH IMMIGRATION ATTORNEYS. THIS WAS DRAFTED IN-HOUSE. THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK OF LITIGATION. BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS THIS WOULD NOT ALTER DUE PROCESS RIGHTS. >>COUN. BACA: WE DIDN'T CONSIDER EXPERTS IN THIS PARTICULAR LAW? THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, I APPRECIATE IT. WE HEARD COMMENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. THERE'S NOT A LOT I CAN ADD TO THAT. OTHER THAN I UNDERSTAND, IF ANYONE COMMITS A VIOLENT CRIME I ASK THAT WE HOLD THEM TO THE EXTREME END OF THE LAW. REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR OR CREED OR PLACE OF ORIGIN. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ACTUALLY HAVE. THIS JUST VIOLATES DUE PROCESS. IT'S CREAING DIVISION AMONG THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS REAL ISSUES. TO BE HONEST THE ONLY POSITIVE COMMENTS ARE FROM MR. SERRANO. FOR THE RECORD, I FIND OUR BLANKET STATEMENTS AGAINST IMMIGRANTS OFFENSIVE. I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. ABSOLUTELY KEEP COMING UP. YOU'RE ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH MR. SERRANO IN THIS CASE. I URGE EVERYBODY TO VOTE NO. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BROWN. I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU COME BACK DOWN. I'M HERE TO HELP YOUR EXERCISE ROUTINE. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS I HEARD. BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO GET THE ACTUAL INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS. IF A PERSON COMMITS A VIOLENT CRIME, AND IS ARRESTED FOR IT. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT APD IS DOING THAT LET'S THEM GO? >> NO. SDMRF IF A . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF A PERSON IS ARRESTED FOR RAPE, DO THEY GO THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN YES MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF THEY'RE ARRESTED FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING, DO THEY GO THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IF THEY'RE ARRESTED FOR HUMAN SMUGGLING, DO THEY GO THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM? >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IS THERE ANY SITUATION WHERE A VIOLENT CRIME IS COMMITTED AND APD DOES NOT ARREST SOMEONE FOR THAT CRIME IF THEY CAN FIND THE PERPETRATOR? >> STATE STATUTE, MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS IS NEEDED BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED THAT COMMIT A CRIME. IS THAT TRUE IN ANY SITUATION IN OUR CITY? >> NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SO, THROUGH THIS PROPOSAL, WHAT KIND OF STAFFING DOES APD NEED TO LIVE UP TO WHAT'S IN THIS PROPOSAL WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT? >> GOOD QUESTION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: DOES APD HAVE EXTRA FOLKS SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING? >> NO, MA'AM. IT WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL STAFF ING TO DO REPORTING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: IT WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO DO THIS WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT APD HAS MANY, MANY POSITIONS OPEN AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S A LONG WAIT FOR 911 CALLS. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE WANT MORE RESOURCES UP IN OUR COMMUNITY FIGHTING CRIME. THE PROPOSAL FOR TODAY WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY RESOURCES FROM THAT CRIME-FIGHTING THAT'S NEEDED? >> WE HAVE TO ADD TO WHAT WE HAVE. SDMRF . >>COUN. PEÑA: YOU . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: LAST QUESTION. SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN AN OP-PED OP-EDABOUT APD FINDING 20 PEOPLE BEING SMUGGLED OR HELD AGAINST THE WILL AND THE IMPLICATION IN THE ARTICLE IS THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN CHARGE OF THAT SMUGGLING RING WERE SOMEHOW NOT GOING TO BE PUT TO JUSTICE. IS THAT -- IS THERE ANY TRUTH TO THAT? IF WE FIND SOMEONE WITH 20 PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR -- YOU KNOW BEING HELD BY THEM AGAINST THEIR WILL, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN TO THE PERSON THAT DOES THAT? >> CRES, MA'AM. >> CRES, MA'AM. >> YES MA'AM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEM? >> WE STEP IN AND HOLD THOSE RESPONSIBLE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: ALL RIGHT. I THINK TO ME THIS SEEMS REALLY CLEAR. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. THIS PROPOSAL FEELS LIKE A REALLY HORRIBLE WAY TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY. IN A TIME WHERE WE NEED TO BE UNITING OUR COMMUNITY TO REALLY FIGHT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE AN EXTREME POVERTY PROBLEM IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE HAVE A LOT OF CRIME IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE NEED TO BE COMING TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO FIGHT THAT RATHER THAN SCAPEGOATING A VERY, VERY VULNERABLE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WE SHOULD BE STANDING WITH IN ALL SITUATIONS. FEAR MONGERING IS NOT A GREAT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE HEARD FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. SERRANO WHO I DON'T WANT TO ALIGN WITH, WHO WAS HERE TONIGHT THAT SAID THIS IS GOING TO CREATE FEAR IN OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. I, FOR ONE, AM NOT OKAY WITH THAT. WE NEED TO STAND WITH OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO BE ONE ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S MORE THAN A TAG LINE, FOLKS, IT'S WHO WE ARE. AND I REALLY HOPE WE WILL ALL VOTE AGAINST THIS REALLY INSULTING PROPOSAL. TO OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I WANTED TO WAIT. I WAS GOING TO GET YOU TO COME BACK. YOU GOT SMART ON ME. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY FOR APD. ICE AND APD COMMUNICATED IN THE PAST CORRECT? I BELIEVE UNDER A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION THEY HAD COMMUNICATION AND THAT'S WHAT IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY STOMPED? >> I DON'T RECALL. THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I SEEM TO RECALL AN ICE AGENT SAT AT THE PTC AND AS PEOPLE CAME IN THEY COMMUNICATED WITH THEM. THEY RAN THEM THROUGH THERE. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO FIND OUT. IT WAS MY BELIEF AND IF I REMEMBER, AN ICE AGENT OR IMMIGRANT AGENT SAT AS PEOPLE CAME IN. THEY COMMUNICATED WITH. THEY HAD AN ACTUAL OFFICE, AND WHEN THE POLICY CHANGED FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, ICE WAS KICKED OUT OF THE PTC OR ASKED TO LEAVE AND SAID YOU CAN'T USE THE CITY'S ABILITIES AND ENGAGED IN THAT COMMUNICATION. IT WUPT NECESSARILY THAT YOU DESIGNATED POLICE OFFICERS THAT ROLLED WITH ICE OR IMMIGRATION, YOU HAD A COMMUNICATION AND EASY ACCESS BASIS. IF YOU COULD FIND THAT OUT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW. THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION OF WHEN I WAS ON THE DEPARTMENT. >> I SPENT A LOT OF TIME -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: EXACTLY. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, SIR. MAYBE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. IT ISN'T FOR APD. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE TONIGHT ABOUT THE FEAR OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE. NONE OF THEM SPOKE ABOUT THE FEAR THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE POLICE. NOBODY SAID THEY'RE BEING TARGETED RIGHT NOW. THIS POLICY ALL OF A SUDDEN ENGAGED THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ON PATROL ARE PULLED OVER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE WRONG COLOR DRIVING A CAR AND FAILED TO STOP AT A STOP SIGN. A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT BAD ACTORS AND SO FORTH, I BELIEVE THE DOJ HAS COME IN AND CLEANED THAT UP. AND WE'RE SUCCESSFULLY MOVING THROUGH THAT. HOW IS A POLICY GOING TO CHANGE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROTECTING THEM NOW AND THOSE CORE BELIEFS? I FIND THAT INTERESTING. BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A TRUST NOW, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW A CERTAIN POLICY IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THESE POLICE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO START TARGETING A COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE NOT TARGETING NOW. THIS ISN'T A CHANING IN THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICIES WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE. THIS IS ABOUT CHANING THE AWFUL CRIMINAL FRIENDLY POLICIES THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. IT'S HAVING A CONSTANT OR EARLY COMMUNICATION WITH PEOPLE WHO COMMIT AND TERRORIZE A COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNICATION STARTS NOW, EARIER THAN THE PROCESS IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. I FIND IT INTERESTING. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THEY HAVE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE TERROR IZING THEIR -- AND THE VICTIMS ARE NOT WANTING TO COME FORWARD, YET AT THE SAME TIME, THEY DON'T WANT ANYTHING OR THEY DON'T WANT THE OFFENDERS TO BE TOLD UPON BECAUSE THEY'RE A -- AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO GET DEPORTED. IT'S FRUSTRATING TO SIT HERE AND HEAR THIS BECAUSE IT'S A SIMPLE COMMUNICATION. AND I GET THE HESITATION WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND WHAT IT SEEMS TOOL TO ME BLPG IT SEEMS THERE'S A LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION BETWEEN EVERYBODY. YOU SAY THE VICTIMS ARE AFRAID. WELL AREN'T YOU COMMUNICAING AND EDUCATING THOSE VICTIMS AND MAKING IT EAIER FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THIS? YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T COME FORWARD AND TELL THEM THEY'RE BEING A VICTIM OF SEXUAL TRAFFICKING OR DRUG RUNNING, MEWLING ANYTHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE GOING TO GET DEPORTED. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OFFENDERS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HELPS TO SOLVE THAT. HELPS TO AID THAT PROBLEM. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: GO AHEAD. WE'LL CALL THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I'LL READ THE WHOLE THING. ON PAGE FIVE LINE EIGHT AMEND SUBSECTION AS FOLLOWS. THAT THE CAO SHALL COMMUNICATE THE POLICIES WITH ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE PASSAGE OF THIS RESOLUTION. THE CAO SHALL DEVELOP AND PUBLICIZE AND POST PUBLICLY POST A NOTICE OF ALL THE INCIDENTS ARE INFORMATION IS REQUIRED TO BE COLLECTED BY THE CITY PURSUANT TO ANY EXCEPTIONS IN PARAGRAPH ONE OF THE SECTION. AND THAT ADVISES OF OTHER INCIDENTS WHERE THE PROVISIONS OF THE RESOLUTION MAY NOT FULLY APPLY IN DEALING WITH THE CITY OR WHEN USING A CITY FACILITY IF ANY. THE CAO SHALL DEVELOP AND ADMINISTER AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN THAT INFORMS THE CITY ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICY. IT SHALL BE MADE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AS WELL AS ANY OTHER APPROPRIATE LANGUAGES AND SHALL COMPLY WITH REQUIREMENTS OF CITY LANGUAGE ACCESS POLICIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY DOESN'T AGREE WITH US DOESN'T MEAN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. I SPOKEN WITH MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY AND MANY OTHER ADVOCATES SINCE THIS ILL CONCEIVED PROPOSAL WAS MADE. THERE'S NO ONE HERE THAT'S MISUNDERSTANDING THE PROPOSAL. I THINK EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTANDS. I THINK THEY KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND I FIND THIS A LITTLE INSULTING TO THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE AN EDUCATE CENTER OR PROPOSAL SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO READ LEGISLATION. THEY HAVE READ IT. THEY HAVE ASKED ENMASSE WE NOT PAS THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THAT WAS REPEATED MANY TIMES THAT THERE'S THE EXPRESSION THAT PEOPLE DON'T DON'T UNDERSTAND OR WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND. I WOULD AGREE WITH THE INTEPT OF THIS. CERTAINLY IT'S NOT OF ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE JUST AREN'T EDUCATED. THAT'S NOT THE POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT EDUCATION IS GOING TO BE PROVIDED TO APD? NOT THE COMMUNITY, APD. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHEN I DISCOVERED AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, AND IN FACT, I GOT THE MOTION FROM ACTUALLY AN AMENDMENT THAT YOU'RE SPONSORING AND MIRROR THE WORDS OF WHAT IT IS. WHEN I SAW THAT I THOUGHT OKAY, DO YOU GIVE THIS TO THE APD WHEN YOU LISTED A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT SAY THEY DON'T TRUST PD AND THIS WILL AROAD THE TRUST. IT WAS HARD TO SAY LET'S GIVE THIS TO APD AND SAY LET'S EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFRAID OF YOU. THAT'S WHY I PUT IT ON THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO IMPLEMENT IT AND SAY CAN WE WORK WITH APD TO START TEACHING AND COMMUNICATING THE TRUST THAT IS BEING AS VISED IS ERODED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IF THIS PASSES, THAT WE WOULD NEED INTENSE TRAINING FOR APD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SAY THE SAME THING HERE FOR APD AS WELL THAT THEY WOULD BE TRAINED ON THE DIFRBSS DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHARGES AND THE PROCESSES. IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MOVE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THE STATE VERBIAGE OF WHAT POLICE OFFICERS DO EDGE ICATE. THIS IS THE POLICY, THIS IS THE POLICY BEFORE. YOU PASSED THIS AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE OFFICERS KNOW AND THEY'RE DICTATED THROUGH INTEROFFICE MEMOS COMING FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO THE CHIEF AND POLICE. THIS IS THE NEW POLICY AND THAT'S -- THEY READ IT. AND WHEN THEY ARRIVE IN A SITUATION IN THE FIELD THEY ADVISE THEM THIS IS THE POLICY. WHEN THEY COME IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE VICTIM THAT'S NO LONGER THE POLICY. HERE'S WHAT WE DO. AND YOU EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THROUGH INVESTIGATION AND CONTACT. AND THE CAO AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER EDUCATIONAL PROCESS COMES OUT WITH A CAMPAIGN THAT SAYS HERE'S OUR -- NOT ONLY IS OUR IMMIGRATION FRIENDLY POLICY BUT HERE'S THE CHANGE THAT CAME TOWN AND LET'S ALLEVIATE THE FEAR EXPRESSED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I RESPOND TO THAT THEY WE ALREADY HAVE POLICIES AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR LANGUAGE ACCESS AND WE CONTINUALLY HAVE TO TRAIN APD OBHOW TO GET LANGUAGE ACCESS FOR FOLKS WEP THEY NEED IT FOR SERIOUS TOPICS. I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH AND CALL APD FOR NEEDS AND THEY WON'T CALL INTERPRETER. THAT'S ALREADY A LAW. AND APD ALWAYS HAS TO BE RETRAINED BECAUSE THEY DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S MY WORRY. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT HAPPENING. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT THIS BODY SAYS IF WE PASS THIS APD -- I UNDERSTAND THERE'S PROCESSES AND STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT I WORKED WITH ON APD BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE TO THE FIELD. FOR THIS, IT MUST. WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COM. BENSON: MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE WE'VE BEEN TOLD THIS AMENDMENT IS INSULTING I THINK IT'S INSULTING THAT WE HAVE THE COLOR OF PEOPLE'S SKIN BROUGHT INTO LAEGSZ WHICH -- LEGISLATION WHICH IS NOT IN HERE. ANYONE ARRESTED OR CHARGED, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEIR SKIN IS WILL HAVE -- IF THIS PASSES, APD CONTACT FEDERAL AUTHORITIES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY DEMOGRAPHIC. IT'S ANYONE. EVEN IF I DO IT. I THINK THAT CAN ADD TO THE INSULT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INSULTING. I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS EDUCATION SINCE I ALSO DO BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH THERE'S DISAGREEMENT, I DO BELIEVE THERE'S MISTRUTH AND MISINFORMATION BEING SPREAD AMONG THE COMMUNITY. I PLAN ON SHARING THAT POINT OF VIEW WHILE I CLOSE TONIGHT. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOUR PRIVILEGE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT PEOPLE LOOK LIKE DOES MATTER. AND IT DOES. THIS IS NOT AN OPINION. THIS IS A FACT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMEBODY, THAT'S HOW A POLICE ARE ABSOLUTELY MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON WHO TO EVEN ASK INFORMATION ABOUT CITIZENSHIP. THEY WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY LOOK AT YOU AND ASK IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN OR NOT. THEY WON'T -- I KNOW FROM WORKING WITH APD THAT EVEN TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TALKING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TALKING TO SOME OF OUR OWN APD OFFICERS WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS. MY DAD IS A POLICE OFFICER THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO. THEY'RE TRAINED TO LOOK AT YOU AND ASSESS RISK. AND ABSOLUTELY, YOUR SKIN COLOR IS -- THIS IS PROVEN. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE. THIS IS PROVEN IN I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH IN LAW, THIS IS PROVEN. THIS IS FACT. I WASN'T . >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO CLOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AGAIN, A LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID TONIGHT AND AGAIN THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT. THIS ISN'T EVEN THE BILL. IT SHOWS A LACK OF EDUCATION. IT SHOWS LACK OF INFORMATION BEING PUT OUT THERE. I THINK ANY -- YOU CAN SIT AND HECKLE ME ALL NIGHT LONG. YOU GUYS ARE FIGHTING EDUCATION. WHICH IS INTERESTING. MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE AND THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE, TWO GROUPS AND THIS ISN'T WHAT IT IS. AGAIN, GUYS, I THINK IT'S HARD NOT TO ADVOCATE FOR MORE INFORMATION AND MORE EDUCATION BE PUT OUT THERE. I URGE YOUR OTHER. >>COUN. LEWIS: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MOVED AND SECONDED. DISCUSSION CLOSED. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO DO AN AMENDMENT TO THIS TO ADD EDUCATION FOR APD. CAN WE DISCUSS THAT? SDMRL MOVE . >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN WE ADD TO THIS EDUCATION FOR APD ON THE CHANGES IF THIS WERE TO PASS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE CAN ADD THAT INTO THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU NOW. WE JUST NEED A SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S GOT TO BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. IF YOU WANT TO PROPOSE A SEPARATE AMENDMENT TO THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: SURE. I MOTION FOR FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THIS -- >>COUN. LEWIS: NOT A FRIENDLY. IT WOULD BE YOUR OWN AMENDMENT. IF YOU WANT TO GET A SECOND FOR IT. >> YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A FRIENDLY. IF YOU MADE THE MOTION, COUNCILOR BACA HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION, YOU CAN AMEND THE AMENDMENT. IF THAT'S WHAT THE BODY CHOOSES TO DO. AND YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT. WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IS AMEND THE AMENDMENT AND AMEND IT AGAIN. >>COUN. ROGERS: WONDERFUL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS, WHAT'S YOUR MOTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: MY MOTION IS TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO ADD TRAINING FOR APD ON WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IF THIS PASSES. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF WRITE THAT UP. GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO WRITE IT UP. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE COULD REWORD THE NEW LANGUAGE TO SAY THE CAO SHALL DEVELOP AND ADMINISTER AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN THAT INFORMS THE PUBLIC AND APD ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICY. WOULD THAT CAPTURE YOUR INTENT? >>COUN. ROGERS: LET'S KEEP ALL CITY EMPLOYEES INCLUDED. I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE BRACKETED AT THE BOTTOM. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S BEEN MOVED AS STATED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY COUNCILOR BACA. DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR PEÑA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? WE'RE DISCUSSING WHAT'S N THE TABLE IS THE AMENDMENT BY COUNCILOR ROGERS TO COUNCILOR CHAMPINE'S AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: NOT NOW, THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ] YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK ON AMENDMENT ONE AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR PEÑA. WERE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ON THE BILL? >>COUN. PEÑA: ON THE BILL, LATER. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? LET'S CLOSE THAT DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ANYTHING ELSE? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PASSED. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE IS WE'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S 50 PER WEEK IN REFERENCE TO THIS WOULD BE UTILIZED. HOW ARE WE TRACKING THAT DATA? HOW ARE WE DETERMIING THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A BILL IN PLACE TO LOOK IT UP? IS THE POLICE CHIEF STILL HERE? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOUR QUESTION IS HOW ARE WE TRACKING THIS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES, HOW ARE YOU TRACKING AND KNOWING THERE'S 50 INCIDENTS PER WEEK? >> BASED ON NUMBER OF FELONY ARRESTS PER YEAR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. BASED ON THE CATEGORIES, HOW MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE ACTUALLY IMMIGRANTS OR PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE IMMIGRATION STATUS? >> NO CLUE, WE DON'T TRACK THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SO THERE IS NO DATA THAT STATES THERE'S 50% WEEK. BECAUSE THERE'S NO TRACKING. >> THE 50 PER WEEK IS ACTUAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARRESTED UNDER THOSE CATEGORIES OF CRIME. NOT IMMIGRATION STATUS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHEN A PERSON GETS ARRESTED FOR ANY OF THE CRIMES, IN NEW MEXICO WE PROSECUTE ACCORDINGLY, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDEA I.D., THAT PERSON IS FINGERPRINTED AND HELD UNTIL THEY'RE IDENTIFIED? >> YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND THEN AT THAT POINT, BASED ON THAT, WHEN THE PAPERWORK IS COMPLETED, BOOKING PROCESS IS HANDLED, THEN EVERYTHING IS UP TO THE D.A. TO PUT THEM ON HOLD? >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AT THIS POINT, IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS ACTUALLY FOUND TO NOT HAVE LEGAL RESIDENCY IN THIS -- IN THE UNITED STATES AND IS ACTUALLY ARRESTED FOR ONE OF THESE CRIMES THAT WE'VE LISTED, THE THREE CRIMES LISTED ON THE BILL, AT THAT POINT WHAT HAPPENS? TURNED OVER TO THE FEDS? ARE THEY TRANSFERRED TO IMMIGRATION ATTORNEYS? OR THE IMMIGRATION AT THAT TIME? >> THEY'RE TREATED THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THAT MEANS THEY'LL BE HANDLED FOR PROSECUTION FIRST. >> YES, SIR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND LATER ON THEY'RE TRANSFERRED. THAT'S ONE OF THE EDUCATION POINTS WE'RE MISSING. WHEN SOMEBODY IS ARRESTED IN THE UNITED STATES THEY ARE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED OR DEPORTED UNTIL THEIR ACT IS FULLY PROSECUTED. THAT'S ONE OF THE EDUCATION ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH. AM I RIGHT ON THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT'S COMPLICATED. OUTS A COMPLICATED VOTE. OUR JOB IS TO TAKE PEOPLE TO JAIL. AND THAT'S APD'S MAIN FUNCTION IS MAKING SURE WE TAKE THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO JAIL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. BEING A REGULAR POLICE OFFICER FOR SO MANY YEARS DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION ISSUES, IN THE PAST WE HAD AN ICE PERSON SITS THERE AND RUNS EVERYBODY THAT WE ARRESTED TO MAKE SURE THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE CHECKED THROUGH ICE. EVERYBODY. THAT WAS A MISDEMEANOR. THAT WAS EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHEN I WAS A POLICE OFFICER. NOW WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT IF SOMEBODY IS CONSIDERED A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN LIKELY THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHECKED THROUGH THE SYSTEM PROPERLY. I THINK WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE THAT'S ALREADY DOING WHAT WE DO. SOMETIMES THINGS -- SOMETIMES PEOPLE SLIP THROUGH THE SYSTEM. IT HAPPENS. I'VE SEEN IT HANOVER AND OVER MORE TIMES THAN I LIKE. WHAT GETS ME IS I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AS A POLICE OFFICER THERE'S ANOTHER EDGE -- HERE'S ANOTHER EDUCATION ISSUE. BEING A POLICE OFFICER FOR 26 YEARS I DID NOT SEE POLICE OFFICERS PULL OVER SOMEBODY AND THEN SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO ICE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. I'VE HEARD THAT HERE A LOT. I DID NOT SEE IT HAPPEN. BUT, THERE'S A BIG BUT TO THAT BECAUSE I WAS ALSO AS AN UNDERCOVER OFFICER CHARGED WITH ARRESTING ONE OF MY FELLOW OFFICERS WHO WAS ACTUALLY EXTORTING IMMIGRANTS WHO HE KNEW WERE NOT LEGAL AND WE ACTUALLY ARRESTED HIM. MAN, IF YOU EVER HAVE TIME FOR THAT STORY IT'S AMAZING. THIS INDIVIDUAL OFFICER WAS LITERALLY EXTORTING MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHEN THEY HANDS FULL OF CASH AND TAKING THAT MONEY AND WE ARRESTED THAT OFFICER. I HONESTLY THINK THAT SOME OF CASES MAY STILL BE TAKING PLACE IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY. I NEVER SAW IT PERSONALLY AS A POLICE OFFICER, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE END UP HEARING THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL ISSUE. SOMETIMES MAYBE WE NEED TO BE EDUCATED AS WELL. BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. BUT THIS IS WHAT I'VE SEEN IS THAT OFFICERS DON'T JUST PULL OVER SOMEBODY AND SEND THEM TO ICE. THAT'S THE FEELING THAT'S OUT THERE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S HAPPENED TO SOME IMMIGRANTS AND THEY FEEL DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND DEAL WITH UNNECESSARY FEAR. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH OFFENDERS OF THESE SAME CRIMES THEY'RE WEAPONIZING AND USING ICE AS A THREAT. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY HAD TO SEEK POLITICAL ASULM FOR -- ASYLUM. THE SAME THING HAPPENS IN MEXICO. IF YOU'RE PART OF A HOUSEHOLD OR PART OF A FAMILY AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU HAVE TO GO OR YOU END UP DEAD IS ACROSS THE BORDER, WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT ON THAT ISSUE. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE. A LOT OF ISSUES THAT I SEE. SOME OF THEM ARE -- WILL THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND APD ACTUALLY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THIS? THE REASON I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE STAUNCHLY DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS. THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE RIGHT THERE. HAVING AN OFFICER, A REGULAR SARGE WANT GOING OUT THERE AND MAKING THAT DETERMINATION BASED ON THAT BILL DOES NOT SIT RIGHT WITH ME. IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE DONE AT A HIGHER LEVEL, MAYBE A JUDGE OR MAYBE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THAT SHOULD BE DEALING WITH THAT. NOT US. WE SHOULDN'T BE DEALING WITH THOSE THINGS. IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE JUDGE, OR EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT IDENTIFIED WHEN THEY GET IDENTIFIED OR PASS THROUGH ICE THAT'S WHEN IT HAPPENS. AFTER THAT PROCESS. AND YOU ALSO HAVE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BECOME A CITIZEN. IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S HERE AND THEY'RE HERE ON IMMUNITY OR THEY'RE BEING THREATENED ELSEWHERE IN MEXICO WITH DEATH AND THEY COME HERE, AT THAT POINT WE GIVE THOSE PEOPLE ASYLUM. IF IT TAKES YEARS TO BECOME A CITIZEN, THEN YOU HAVE OPENED UP THAT ISSUE. YOU HAVE THAT ISSUE WITH OPEN BORDERS. WE HAVE ISSUE WITH ARNOLD TOOL NOT DOING WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO. WE ALSO, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS SAID, WE NEED A MAYOR THAT IS GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT GOING AFTER THE BAD GUYS AND IF WE WERE BETTER AT GOING AFTER THE BAD GUYS AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T SEE THIS BILL RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S REALLY EVIDENT WE HAVE A MAJOR DRUG PROBLEM AND A MAJOR ISSUE ON THE STREET EVERY SINGLE DAY BY US SEEING THAT MASSIVE CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION OUT THERE SELLING DRUGS AND TRAFFICKING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS WHAT THIS BILL INTENDS TO DO IS TRY TO HELP CURB THAT. I HONESTLY THINK THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING BETTER AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING BETTER IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON, WHEN I WAS A YOUNGER POLICE OFFICER WE HAD OCM WHICH WERE FARL -- FEDERAL GRANTS BY THE GOVERNMENT AND I HOPE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THEM SO YOU CAN PUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT THESE GRANTS PROVIDE TO PUT TASK FORCES, MULTIJURISDICTIONAL TASK FORCES TOGETHER TO COMBAT THESE THINGS. WE USED TO DO WIRETAPS. WE USED TO DO REGISTERS. WE USED TO PUT THE CRIMINALS IN JAIL FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND GET WITH THE FEDS AND GET THESE INDIVIDUALS PROSECUTED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. BOTTOM LINE, WE NEED TO GET TRUF -- TOUGHER ON CRIME. WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICER, WE NEED A CHIEF THAT CAN HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND KEEP THEM. WE NEED MORE LEGISLATORS TOUGHER ON CRIME. I NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT MY CONSTITUENTS DON'T SUPPORT THIS. I'M 100% AGAINST CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN OUR CITY. EVERYBODY HERE HAS HEARD ME SAY THAT. WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN OUR MAYOR'S OFFICE, TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE. THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE IS. LIKE I SAID, I'M AGAINST THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN OUR CITY 100%. I WANT TO HOLD EVERY CRIMINAL RESPONSIBLE TO THE HIGHEST DEGREE. RIGHT NOW THIS IS DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO UNITE OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD MORE THAN XG IS -- ANYTHING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THOSE ARE BEING WEAPONIZED. WEAPONIZING THAT MAKES IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE THE NARTIVE THAT'S OUT THERE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNCILORS ARE SAYING. I GET IT. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS. THE MAYOR IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. WE NEED TO FIX THAT AS A COUNCIL. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO UNITE. IS TO GET A POLICE CHIEF THAT CAN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, KEEP POLICE OFFICERS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE MAYOR IS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO PUT THESE INDIVIDUALS'D BARS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE ARE DOING THEIR DOING THEIR JOB AND HIING POLICE OFFICERS. IF THE POLICE CHIEF CAN'T HIRE OFFICERS TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS IN THE CITY WE NIGHT MIGHT NEED ANOTHER POLICE CHIEF. WE DON'T HAVE DATA. IT'S NOT THERE. THERE'S NO DATA ALSO TO SHOW IF THIS WILL EVER MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT THIS. AND IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN A BILL THAT REALLY, REALLY SERVES TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY MORE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW. I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY FOCUS ON HOLDING THE ADMINISTRATION, POLICE OFFICERS, OR THE POLICE CHIEF TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT ON THE BACKS OF THE IMMIGRANTS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO GO TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD ADD A FEW COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE SPONSORS. THEY WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BETTER OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THEY BELIEVED WAS GOING TO BE HELPFUL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I SPONSORED THE ORIGINAL -- NOT THE ORIGINAL, IT WAS ACTUALLY STRENGTHENING, I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILOR WINTER BEFORE THAT. THERE WAS ANOTHER COUNCILOR THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN IT. IT WAS IN 2018 THAT COUNCILOR DAVIS SIGNED ON TO IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, I WISH IT WOULD -- I WISH WE COULD FIND A SOLUTION TO THE ISSUES WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. FOR ME, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING -- WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ROOT ISSUES WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE. WE NEED TO TACKLE THOSE ISSUES. RIGHT NOW AS A CITY OR AS A STATE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO THAT. FOR ME, THIS PILL THIS BILL DOESN'T ALLOW DUE PROCESS. WHEN YOU ALLOW A SERGEANT TO DETERMINE WHAT THIS PERSON DID WOULD POTENTIALLY SEND THEM -- IT WOULDN'T, BUT POTENTIALLY WOULD SEND THEM BACK TO MEXICO OR WHEREVER THEY'RE FROM. PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF ONE PERSON AS JUDGE AND JURY, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE ANSWER. I'LL END WITH THAT. I DON'T WANT TO GO ON AND ON. I HAVE A BIG THING WRITTEN. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND A COMMENT. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. I'M WONDERING WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION FEELS ON THIS PROPOSAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT PLACES THE RESPONSIBILITY AND BURDENS OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION IN PART ON ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND IT CHANGES APD TO A COOPERATIVE WITH ICE. ADDITIONALLY, AS THE BILL -- WE TRY TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP AND BETWEEN THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. PLACING THIS RESPONSIBILITY ON APD CLOUDS THAT AIR OF TRUST. CREAING THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT ENSURES THE SAFE PARTICIPATION OF VICTIMS, WITNESSES AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN THE APRYHENSION OF AND DETAINMENT OF THOSE THAT WE SEEK TO SEE PROSECUTED. AS YOU HEARD FROM SO MANY TONIGHT THE TRUST THAT WOULD BE -- THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DEGRADE WOULD IMPACT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILLINGNESS AND LIKELY ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES. I KNOW WE ALL WANT TO PROTECT VICTIMS AND SUPPORT THEM AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTORS IN THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE THAT PERPETRATE THOSE CRIMES AND ALL OTHERS. WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY TONIGHT, INDIVIDUALS THAT IDENTIFY AS IMMIGRANTS AS WELL AS PREVIOUS VICTIMS OF CRIME. AND THEY HAVE TESTIFIED TO HOW THIS AMENDMENT WOULD IMPACT THEIR TRUST AND PARTICIPATION IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. I BELIEVE THEM. I URGE YOU TO BELIEVE THEM AS WELL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, DR. SENGEL. MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO TALK BECAUSE I FEEL THERE'S DEFLECTION COMING ON ME. I'M PRIVLED AS A WHITE PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY. BRING IT ON. I WILL SAY WHAT I HAVE SAID TO THE MEDIA AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LISTEN ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. I AM A PRIVILEGED WHITE PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IF I'M ARRESTED WRONGLY FOR ANY CRIMES, INCLUING THE VIOLENT CRIMES ON THIS BILL TONIGHT I WOULD BE GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DEFEND MYSELF AND PROVE MY SNINS. I GUARANTEE APD WILL NOT CALL ICE TO FIND OUT IF I'M AN IMMIGRANT BECAUSE I LOOK LIKE THIS. I SAID IT, DID I SAY IT? YES. DID I MEAN IT? YES. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE LOOK LIKE. THIS IS ABOUT DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I'M A PRIVILEGED WHITE WOMAN. I CAN DEAL WITH ANYTHING ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ABOUT ME. WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT I'LL STAND WITH THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL SHOULD AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION. I APPRECIATE DR. SENGEL'S RESPONSE. SHE DID NOT SAY WHETHER THE ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTS OR OPPOSED THIS RESOLUTION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU. WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO THE SPONSORS. WE'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION. AND GO BACK TO THE SPONSORS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL WILL CAUSE ICE TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE THIS BILL WILL ALLOW ICE TO ACTUALLY NOT BE AROUND ADDITIONAL FAMILY MEMBERS AS OFTEN AS IS BEING SAID. I'VE HEARD THAT FROM ICE. RIGHT NOW IF THEY HAVE TO GO AND FIND SOMEBODY THAT IS ON THEIR RADAR AND THEY ENCOUNTER FAMILY MEMBERS AT THE HOUSE OR BUSINESS OR WHATEVER, THEN IT IS THEIR OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHICH PUTS THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AT RISK AS WELL. IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT IS IN THIS BILL, THEN WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT APD CONTACTS AUTHORITIES FOR ONE PERSON WITHOUT SO MUCH RISK FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. I'M NOT TRYING TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS. I HAVE NO POINTS TO SCORE THAT ARE NECESSARY IN MY OPINION. I DO BELIEVE THE LABOR FORCE AND SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES CAN STILL REPORT BECAUSE ALL OF THAT STAYS THE SAME IN THIS BILL. ALL OF THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS FAR AS IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY POLICIES. I AGREE WITH THE COMMENT MADE THAT WE NEED TO FEEL WE CAN TRUST THE POLICE, ALL OF ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN TRUST THE POLICE. RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THIS BILL THAT I BELIEVE IS DIVIDING US, I BELIEVE IT'S THE CRIMINALS THAT ARE DIVIING US. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY INCLUING THE IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE HERE TRYING TO BETTER THEIR LIVES. I AM NOT CHOOSING TO SEPARATE FAMILIES. I'M CHOOSING TO PROTECT THEM, IN MY OPINION. MAYBE PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, THAT IS WHERE I COME FROM. THAT IS WHERE MY HEART IS AT. THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THIS BILL. I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I BELIEVE IF PEOPLE NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION AND NEED TO GO TO THE ER THEY CAN STILL DO THAT AND THERE WON'T BE THE REPERCUSSIONS BECAUSE THAT PART STILL XYS EXISTS AND WOULD BE HELD INTACT. I THINK TO PROTECT OUR CITY FROM CRIMINALS, ALL CRIMINALS OF ALL RACES, FROM ANY DESCENT FROM ANYWHERE, I BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL IS IMMIGRANT-FRIENDLY. I BELIEVE IT WILL PROTECT VICTIMS THAT INCLUDE IMMIGRANT FAMILIES. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE AN IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO STOP BEING CRIMINAL FRIENDLY AND QUIT BEING COMPLACENT WITH SOME OF THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE THINGS WILL BE ENFORCED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE -- AND I WANT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION OF MS. KEEFE. IF THIS LEGISLATION WERE TO GET PASSED AND IF IT WERE TO BE ENACTED, I RECOGNIZE IT WOULD GET A VETO AND I RECOGNIZE WE WOULDN'T WITHSTAND A VETO, THAT'S A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY. LET'S SAY THIS BILL DOES PASS AND IT BECOMES LAW IN ALBUQUERQUE. DOES THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE MAYOR GET TO CHOOSE WORNT THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH ANY LEGISLATION THAT THIS BODY SETS FORTH LEGALLY? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS SUBJECTIVE OR IS THE MAYOR AND HIS ADMINISTRATION UNDER LEGAL OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW WHAT WE SET AS POLICY WHETHER THEY AGREE WITH IT OR NOT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE SECOND PART OF YOUR STATEMENT IS CORRECT. THE MAYOR ADMINISTERS THE LAWS ENACTED BY THE COUNCIL. IT WOULD NOT BE OPTIONAL TO COMPLY WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT MAKES IT THROUGH THE COUNCIL PROCESS. >>COM. BENSON: JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, THAT INCLUDES WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREE WITH THE LEGISLATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COM. BENSON: OKAY, THANK YOU. I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THE MAYOR WOULDN'T ACTUALLY GO THROUGH WITH PROTECTING THIS POLICY AND ENFORCING THIS POLICY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD REMAIN IDLE AND NOT PASS SOMETHING. I BELIEVE THE CRIMINALS ARE DIVIDING US. MS. KEEFE, IN YOUR OPINION IS ANY POLICY SUBJECTEDIVE -- IF THEY AGREE WITH IT OR NOT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, [ INAUDIBLE ]? THE MAYOR WOULD NOT HAVE THE OPTION. WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ENFORCE THIS LAW. >>COM. BENSON: THANK YOU. MR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILOR GROUT GETS HER OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE. I WANT TO REPEAT LASTLY. I THINK IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO PROTECT OUR CITY. I BELIEVE THIS BILL IS IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD REMAIN AN IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY CITY. I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE NEED TO PUT A STOP TO THE REPUTATION IN THE ACT THAT WE'RE CRIMINAL-FRIENDLY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS TO CLOSE. ALBUQUERQUE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE WELCOING TO ALL IMMIGRANTS. OUR HOSPITALITY HAS TO END WHEN SOMEONE COMMITS A VIOLENT CRIME OR TRAFFICS DRUGS OR HUMAN BEINGS. IF WE'RE ABLE TO STOP ONE OR TWO OR THREE PEOPLE THEN IT'S WORTH IT. I'LL STAND THERE. I WANT OUR CITY TO BE SAFER. WE HAVE TO WORK ON -- WE AS A COUNCIL, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO IN OUR CITY. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE REALLY NEED TO GET OUR LEGISLATORS TO MAKE CHANGES IN POLICY IN STATE LAW. BECAUSE WE HAVE A REAL CRIME ISSUE IN HERE. AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROBLEMS TOO. AT THE CITY LEVEL, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. AND THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT IT FORTH. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS R-45 AS SUBSTITUTED AND IT HAS BEEN AMENDED. [ ROLL CALL ] >> MOTION IS A DO PASS AS AMENDED. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION IS DO PASS AS AMENDED. YES. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COM. BENSON: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> THE MOTION FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO GET ITEM B. WE ASK FOR DECORUM IN THE CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. ITEM B IS P1. THIS IS ADOPTING PROPOSITION TO BE SENT TO THE VOTERS OF 2024 GENERAL ELECTION AMEPPED MEND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND RUNOFF ELECTIONS. I MOVE A DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. I'M GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEFER THIS BILL AND THE REST OF THESE UNTIL JUNE 17th. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE -- YOU'RE WELCOME TO EXIT THE CHAMBERS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH OUR BUSINESS. IF YOU CAN QUIETLY LEAVE IF YOU'RE LEAVING. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS P1. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED FOR DO PASS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE A DEFERRAL. AND THE OTHERS RELATED TO IT. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER HEARING JUNE 17. CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS MASON FOLLOWED BY CARTER FOLLOWED BY LAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, AS I STATED IN MY PUBLIC COMMENT. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE LOWERING THE THRESHOLD FOR CITY COUNCIL AND MAY ORAL ELECTION TO 40%. AT THIS TIME THE FOLKS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT ALSO OPPOSE THIS COULD YOU PLEASE STAND? PERFECT. PART OF MY JOB IS TO ENSURE ACCESSIBILITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN OUR ELECTIONS AND PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO VOTERS. WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING OUR ELECTION PROTECTION FUEL PROGRAM. I TRAIN VOLUNTEERS ALL OVER THE STATE ABOUT LAWS AND RULES AND REGULATION OF THE ELECTIONS. I CAN ASSURE YOU IF THIS DOES PASS AND BECOME ON THE BALLOT IT IS GOING TO CREATE MANY PROBLEMS FOR VOTERS POLL WORKERS AND ELECTION OFFICIALS ALREADY ON EDGE GIVEN THE CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE. IT WILL RAISE QUESTIONS TO ALBUQUERQUE VOTERS LEADING UP TO AND ON ELECTION DAY. CAN ASSURE THAT THEY WILL ADVOCATE STRONGLY AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL IF IT WAS TO FIND IT'S WAY ON THE BALLOT. OUR ELECTIONS HAVE COME FAR OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO UNDO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TO UNDO THE WILL OF THE VOTERS. WE ASK YOU TO VOTE NO. >> CARTER FOLLOWED BY LAN FOLLOWED BY SILA. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, JUST QUICKLY, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU ASKED IF THEY HAVE DONE A POLL OF THEIR MEMBERS. NONE OF US HAVE, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS ALL OF THE UNIONS HAVE MAJORITY REQUIREMENTS TO ELECT OUR LEADERSHIP TO MAKE DECISIONS AS YOU GET TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH YOUR MAJORITY VOTES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF YOUR MEMBERS? >> YES. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS. >>COUN. LEWIS: EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN A VEET OF YOUR MEMBERS? >> JUST AS YOU DON'T REQUIRE A VOTE OF EVERY MEMBER IN YOUR CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT BEFORE YOU TAKE A POSITION, NEITHER DO THE ELECTED LEADERS. IT'S REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. >>COUN. LEWIS: FAIR ENOUGH. >> I WANT TO TOUCH ON AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THAT THE MOST FEDERAL JURISDICTIONS AND MOST STATES DON'T HAVE RUNOFFICE. THEY IT HAVE PRIMARIES. THIS YEAR IN THE 12 LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT BECAUSE OF OUR PRIMARY SYSTEM. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. >> LAN FOLLOWED BY SILA. >>COUN. LEWIS: I INTERRUPTED YOU, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME. I GIVE YOU MORE TIME. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU MORE TIME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO HAVE MORE TIME. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER OF CIVIC POLICY. 45 ORGANIZATIONS THAT FOCUS ON CIVIC ENGAGEMENT GETTING OUT THE VOTE AND EDUCATING VOTERS WHAT'S ON THE BALLOT. WE TAKE NON-PARTISAN STANCES WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUE EDUCATION. WE WANT OUR VOTERS TO HAVE THE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE INFORMATION. WITH THAT, STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE BALLOT PROPOSAL. WE DON'T WANT TO WATER DOWN OR DEMOCRACY TO 40%. AS A FORMER CITY COUNCILLOR EVEN WHEN WE VOTE FOR COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND MANY ISSUES WE CARE ABOUT WE DO NOT REDUCE IT TO 40%. I WILL ALSO STATE THAT AT -- AS A CANCER PATIENT THAT THE TIME THAT KRFB -- THE TIME I HAVE IS DEDICATED TO FIGHTING FOR THE DEMOCRACY. I KNOW IT'S WORTH IT. EVEN IF WITH I DO NOT SEE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR THE NEXT YEAR OR THE NEXT ELECTION WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON IS HAVING OUR COMMUNITY VOICES REPRESENTED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> TILA FOLLOWED BY MARK FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO OPEN ELECTIONS AND NM VOTERS FIRST. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID. DECREASING OUR 50% THRESHOLD TO 40% IS UNDEMOCRATIC. AND IT DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY CANDIDATE A MANDATE TO GOVERN. AS I WAS SAYING, IT DENIES THE VOTERS. RANK CHOICE ALLOWS TO WIN WITH 50% PLUS ONE PUBLIC SUPPORT. IT ELIMINATES COSTLY ELECTIONS WITH LOW TURNOUT AS IT CALCULATES PREFERENCES AND ORDER AND PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS AND A BETTER VOICE FOR VOTERS OF THE POLLS. RANK CHOICE IS WIDELY USED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND IN OUR OWN STATE. SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES USED IT FOR MANY YEARS AND THE VOTERS THINK IT'S POSITIVE. INSTEAD OF PROPOING UNDEMOCRAT IC MOTIONS, AND DECREASING POLARIZATION AND PROVIDE VOTERS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY OF TRUE REPRESENTATION AND SAVE OUR CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> MARK FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY. >> HI, COUNCIL, LONG TIME LISTENING FIRST TIME CALLER. I CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE MOS GENEROUS READING -- THE BEST REASON I CAN CONJURE IS HELP SAVE ON RUNOFF ELECTIONS. THE ONLY REASON GIVEN IN THE BILL IS THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE CITY CHARTER BUT NO REASON WHY THEY SHOULD. I BELIEVE THIS BILL IS MERELY AN UNDEMOCRATIC MATTER OF POLITICAL CONVENIENCE RATHER THAN PROPOSAL WITH CONCERNS AND VALUES OF PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE IN MIND. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO NOT ADOPT IT OR THE RELATED BILL. >> JUSTIN ROGERS FOLLOWED BY ASHLEY FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> AM I ABLE TO USE THE OVERHEAD CAMERA? >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL START YOUR TIME IN JUST A MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR P1 AND THE RESOLUTION THAT MIRRORS IT OR FOLLOWS IT. P1 AND R47. WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU UP ALTOGETHER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A VISUAL HERE. IT'S POSTPONED FOR TWO WEEKS. I'LL DEMONSTRATE REAL QUICK WHAT THE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS ARE. I -- IMAGIING A VOTE OF 100 PEOPLE. YOU HAVE 42 RED, 41 GREEN, 10 CHIP OTTLE, AND 5 MOLE, AND 5 -- WE'LL GET 60 PEOPLE AND IT MIGHT NOT BE AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT. THAT LEADS TO A LOT OF BACKROOM DEALS. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH DEMOCRACY ABOUT THE WAY THAT THIRD PARTIES ARE UNABLE TO GET ANY TRACTION. AND THE 40% WILL HELP MAKE THIS WORK. >> ASHLEY FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH, FOLLOWED BY ISAIAH. >> I'M WITH THE MACHINEIST UNION. ONE STITUENT OF COUNCILOR LEWIS. THE LABOR MOVEMENT IN THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA STANDS IN OPPOSITION TO P1 AND R47. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT CENTRAL NEW MEXICO LABOR COUNSEL INCLUDES UNIONS ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY MAY 8th AND BY MAJORITY VOTE TOOK A STAND TO OPPOSE THESE MEASURES. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT. AS FAR AS OPINIONS GO, OUR OP-ED IS SITTING IN YOUR INBOXES. FOCUSING ON FACTS, NOT ONLY DID WE TAKE A STANCE AGAINST THIS, BUT THE VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY IN ALBUQUERQUE TOOK A STANCE SAYING THEY WANT A 50% THRESHOLD FOR ELECTIONS IN 2013. WE STAND IN OPPOSITION OF THE MEASURES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU TOOK A VOTE -- MA'AM, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YOU TOOK A VOTE AMONG THE UNION BOSSES? OR THE MEMBERS OF THE ORGANIZATION? >> THAT'S SUPER CLEVER. I WON'T STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A DEROGATORY WORD? UNION BOSS? >> I THINK WE'RE ADULTS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING. >>COUN. LEWIS: I POINT OUT IT'S THE UNION LEADERS NOT THE MEMBERS THAT VOTED. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. >> THAT MIGHT BE YOUR OPINION. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT IS THE FACT? >> EVERY ONE OF US SITTING IN THIS ROOM IS ELECTED BY MAJORITY. WE'RE THEN SELECTED BY MAJORITY TO REPRESENT OUR UNIONS AT THE CENTRAL NEW MEXICO LABOR COUNSEL WHERE WE SIT TOGETHER WHERE WE VOTE BY MAJORITY TO MAKE ENDORSEMENTS FOR CANDIDATES FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND BALLOT MEASURES OR ORDINANCES THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY? >> MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I APOLOGIZE IF -- REMEMBER I HAVE PTSD AND FLASHBACKS FOR SEVERAL OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS. SOMETIMES I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM. IT'S A GOOD THING YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT FOR TWO MINUTES. A LOT OF THAT WAS THE WAY THEY TREATED ME. REGARDING THE ISSUE, I BELIEVE WE NEED A CHANGE. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE PUT ELECTION. I'M PROPOING THAT YOU PUT IN THIS BALLOT FIVE YEARS NO REELECTION. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT WILL CHANGE. AFTER FIVE YEARS THEY GET CORRUPT. THEY START MESSING UP AND WHEN WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DECIDE THIS. THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT IS. THE OTHER THING IS TOO MUCH LOBBYING. I THINK IF WE PASSED THIS, YOU WON'T HAVE TO BE A LOBBYIST TO BE ABLE TO BE IN POLITICS. AND A PERSON FROM MONMINORITY I SUPPORT IT. >> ISAIAH FOLLOWED BY JOHN. >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT STRONGLY OPPOING THIS MEASURE. WHY DON'T WE TAKE IT TO 30%? WE'RE AT 40%, WHAT'S WRONG WITH 30%? AND MAYBE THE NEXT CITY COUNCILLOR CAN MOVE TO TO 20%. ASK WE CAN JUST HAVE A DICTATORSHIP. WHAT LEVEL ARE WE WILLING TO ERODE OUR DEMOCRACY? THIS IS THE BEGINNING. 50% IS MAJORITY PLUS ONE. THAT'S HOW THIS HAS BEEN DONE SINCE THIS COUNTRY'S INCEPTION. PLEASE OPPOSE. >> LUIS FOLLOWED BY JOHN FOLLOWED BY PERRY. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, I'M PRESIDENT OF AFSMCE LOCAL. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE RESOLUTION 1 AND RESOLUTION 47 THE 50% RULE IS BASIC DEMOCRACY. THAT'S IT. >> JOHN FOLLOWED BY PERRY, FOLLOWED BY AUGUSTINE. >> I'M JOHN, I'M HERE REPRESENTING MYSELF AND CONSSERATION VOTERS NEW MEXICO. I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. IT SADDENS TO BE HERE A SECOND TIME TO GIVE TIME ON THIS ANTI- DEMOCRATIC PROPOSAL. IF THIS PASSES OUR CITY'S NEXT LEADER COULD BE NOT OWNING A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES. THIS IS ANAFRONT TO THE DEMOCRACY. THIS RINGS HOLLOW BECAUSE THERE ARE CLEAR ALTERNATIVES TO SUPPORT THE SAME OBJECTIVES. SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES HAVE RANK CHOICE WHERE THEY SELECT A SECOND CHOICE THAT ALLOWS INSTANT RUNOFF ELECTION. THIS REDUCES COST OF ELECTION WITHOUT REDUCING REPRESENTATION. THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO ACT RESPONSIBLE. THEY SHOULD HAVE MORE PUBLIC INPUT AND MORE THOROUGH PROCESS THAN WHAT IS AWARDED HERE. WE URGE THE TASK FORCE -- I URGE ALL COUNCILORS TO TABLE THIS PROPOSAL AND PURSUE SOLUTIONS THAT MAKE OUR DEMOCRACY STRONGER. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> PERRY FOLLOWED BY AUGUSTINE FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> GREETINGS, COUNCILORS, UNTIL RECENTLY IT WENT WITHOUT SAYING WINNING CAND DETERMINES MUST REPRESENT AND CLOSELY HELD BELIEF ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND IGNORING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THE CHANGE A DECADE AGO. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. UPHOLD DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES, INCREASE VOTER TURNOUT AND DECREASE THE COST OF ELECTIONS WITH RANK CHOICE VOTING. IT'S DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE WINNER OF THE ELECTION IS THE CANDIDATE WITH MAJORITY SUPPORT ENCOURAGING POSITIVE CAMPAIGNS AND REDUCING POLLERIZATION AND LETTING VOTERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT THROWING THEIR VOTE AWAY. THEY RANK BY PREFERENCE LETTING CONSENSUS CANDIDATES BUILD THEIR VOTES. AFTER THE 2018 PRIMARY IN MAINE 90% OF SURVEY VOTERS REPORTED THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH RV WAS GOOD DESPITE NEVER USING IT BEFORE. IT WON'T BE HARD TO IMPLEMENT AND VOTERS CAN HANDLE IT. THANK YOU. >> AUGSTINE FOLLOWED BY DAVID FOLLOWED BY SABA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M A CITY EMPLOYEE, CCURATOR, AND I'M HER IN OPPOSITION ON BEHALF OF MY UNION. THE REASON WHY I'M OPPOING THIS OR WE'RE OPPOING THIS IS IT ALLOWS US -- WHEN WE COULD REEVALUATE WHAT'S HAPPENING BEFORE US AND WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IT IF WE GO WITH THE LOWER PERCENTAGE WHICH IS 47% IT DOESN'T ALLOW US GOOD EDITING AS A GROUP OF CITIZENS. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS GOOD EDITING BY CHOOSING AT A HIGH PERCENTAGE THE BEST PERSON THAT REPRESENTS US. THANK YOU. >> DAVID FOLLOWED BY SABA FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS. BLESS YOU. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE P1. I QUESTION -- MY MEGZ IS WHY WOULD WHY WOULD WE ELECT A MAYOR SUPPORTED BY THE MINORITY OF THE VOTERS. WHY WOULD IT BE BETTER THAN THOSE SUPPORTED BY THE MAJORITY? I JUST WANT TO SHARE AN ANECDOTE FROM LAS CRUCES. THEY DID RANK CHOICE VOTING. OUT OF EIGHT CANDIDATES, THE TWO TOP CANDIDATES WERE DIFFERENT BY 1.3%. RANK CHOICE VOTING, NO RUNOFF NO EXTRA COST, THE GUY PLACED IN SECOND ENDS UP WINNING BY 6% THROUGH THE MATH OF THE RANK CHOICE VOTING. IT GIVES THE THE GUY GREATER LEGITIMATE. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. >> SABA FOLLOWED BY CHRISTIAN FOLLOWED BY GREG. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M ON BEHALF OF THE MAERP AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION. WE EXPECT THE RIGHT TO VALUE AS A COUNTRY AND AS ORGANIZATION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT OUR ELECTIONS ARE FAIR AND PEOPLE CAN TRUST THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION WAS FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO ALL. WE URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST P1. AND TO THINK ABOUT MORE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS ON HOW TO MIKE DAGS MAKE OUR E MAKE OUR ELECTIONS MORE EFFECTIVE. THIS ISN'T THE WAY TO DO THAT. >> CHRISTIAN FOLLOWED BY GREG PETERS, FOLLOWED BY CHARLES. GREG FOLLOWED BY CHARLES FOLLOWED BY ABEO. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. I'LL BE BRIEF. I'M HERE TO STAND IN OPPOSITION TO PROPOSITION ONE. THIS PROPOSAL IS UNNECESSARY, REDEPRESSIVE AND FLIES IN THE CORE OF CORE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES. THIS PROPOSAL IS FAR FROM RIGHTS OF THE BALLOT BOX. THIS NEEDS DUE DILIGENCE TO EXAMINE THE TASK FORCE TO AMEND THE CITY CHARTER IN AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT MANNER. FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY URGE NO VOTE ON P-24-1. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> FOLLOWED BY ABEO FOLLOWED BY ERIC. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND MARKETING REP FOR SHEET METAL WORKERS. I VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO P1. THIS WAS AN ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY. THIS IS AN ATTACK ON THE VOTERS THAT WANT THEIR VOTES TO COUNT. EVERY MAJOR CITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS 50% PLUS ONE VOTER RATE. THIS PROPOSALAL WILL MAKE ALBUQUERQUE AN EXTREME OUTLIER AND ONE OF THE LEAST DEMOCRATIC JURISDICTIONS IN AMERICA. THANK YOU. >> OBEO FOLLOWED BY ERIC FOLLOWED BY MARK. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AGAIN. HERE IN NEW MEXICO, I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY RULE WITH MINORITY PROTECTION. THIS IS FAR FROM A MINORITY PROTECTION. THIS IS AN UNSTABLE POWDER KEG. IT COULD BACK FP BACKFIRE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WE HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED A LOT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO RELEARN TO 40% PLUS ONE. WE DON'T NEED TO LOWER OUR STANDARDS. WE NEED TO BE RAISING OUR STANDARDS FOR OUR ELECKED OFFICIALS. AND WITH THAT, I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY. I REALLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> ERIC FOLLOWED BY MARK FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I AM A MARKET REPRESENTATIVE WITH SMART LOAL UNION 49. I OPPOSE THE ROLL BACK ORDINANCE. ALBUQUERQUE IS A PROWORKER CITY. WE DO NOT WANT TO LOSE WORKERS BECAUSE THE NEW RULES THAT LET THE MINORITY SPEAK OVER THE GOVERNMENT. MAJORITY VOTERS NOT ONLY IS IT A SCHEME IT'S AN ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY WITH NO LEGISLATION. IT WILL HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECT ON WORKERS AND FAMILIES. A MAJORITY OF ALBUQUERQUE VOTED TIME AND AGAIN FOR PRO-WORK CANDIDATES AND MEASURES. RIGGING OUR ELECTION ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE MAJORITY TO CHOOSE LEADERS MEANS ENACTING MAJORITY WILL TO USE CONTROL OF CRITICAL POLICIES ON EVERYTHING FROM MINIMUM WAGE TO PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS TO ROBUST PUBLIC SAFETY. I'VE BEEN A UNION MEMBER FOR 18 YEARS. IT'S THE BROTHER AND SISTERHOOD UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH. AND DIVERSITY OUR POWER. WE WILL HAVE TO EARN VOTES OVER 50% OF WORKERS TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. IT'S OUTRAGES TO THINK ELECTED OFFICERS WON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE SAME PRINCIPLES OF DEMOCRACY THAT THE REST OF US LIVE WITH EVERY DAY. THANK YOU. >> MARK FOLLOWED BY LISA FOLLOWED BY DEDE ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERROOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS. I DO NOT CONSIDER MYSELF A UNION BOSS. RATHER A REPRESENTATIVE AND SOMEBODY THAT ADVOCATES ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS. AND MUCH LIKE YOURSELF, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OUR OPINIONS. I AM HERE BASED ON THE MAJORITY RULE AND RUNOFF. AND FOR THE REASONS THAT ARTICULATED BY OUR OTHER PEOPLE THAT STAND AGAINST IT, WE ALSO STAND OPPOSED TO THIS. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY DEDE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILLORS, THANK YOU. THE TITLE OF THE BILL IS PROPOSITION FOR VOTERS REGARD ING MINIMAL VOTE FOR ELECTED OFFICE. ELECTED OFFICES. MAJORITY RULE HELPS PROTECT MINORITY RIGHTS. THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID WHERE THE LAW OF THE MAJORITY CEASES TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT'S WHERE GOVERNMENT ENDS. MAJORITY RULE CREATES LEGITIMACY. LEGITIMACY FOR THE ONES THAT WIN. THIS COUNCIL WAS CREATED IN 1975. PREVIOUSLY, 1916 TO 1974 ALBUQUERQUE WAS GOVERNED BY A CITY COMMISSION OF AT LARGE MEMBERS OF GOVERNED BY THE MAYOR. DO WE WANT THAT BACK? AS WEEK WEAK OF A MARRIAGE WE HAVE. VOTERS REPLACED IT WITH THE MAJORITY RULE SYSTEM. PATRICIA WON 100% WHEN -- WHEN WHERE VOTE TOMORROW TO REPRESENT DISTRICT 13 I WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO HAVE THE MAJORITY OFT -- OF THE VOTES. >> DIDI FOLLOWED BY JOE. JOE FOLLOWED BY MOLLY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, AS PEOPLE MEFRPD THERE'S CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSAL REGARDING THE THRESHOLD FROM 50 TO 40%. I'LL ADD ONE THING. AS PERSPECTIVE THAT WORKED IN COMMUNITY ORGANIING WORK AND FOCUSING ON DEALING WITH MISINFORMATION THAT THIS PACKAGE PROPOSAL, PARTICULARLY THE ONES RELATED TO THE WAY POWER IS ALLOCATED. WE HAVE A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF INCREASING MISINFORMATION AND REDUCING TRUST AT A TIME WHEN WE REALLY DO NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT DEMOCRACY JUST AS WE NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AS EVIDENCED BY THE CONVERSATION THIS EVENING. THIS PROPOSAL WOULD TAKE US BACKWARD. WE SHOULD HAVE MAJORITY FOR CANDIDATES. IF YOU WIN ELECTION AND YOU HAVE A MANDATE TO LEAD. IF YOU DON'T, THEN YOU DON'T. THIS PARTICULAR PIECE WOULD REDUCE TRUST OVERALL AND IF DEGREES INCREASE VOTERS FEELING LIKE THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTED AND TUNING OUT AND NOT BEING PART OF THE GOVERNANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE CANNOT AFFORD. >> DIDI FOLLOWED BY MOLLY. MOLLY FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT. I'M ALSO THE PROUD MOM OF A 3-YEAR-OLD WITH ANOTHER ON THE WAY. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO P1. NOT ONLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE ALBUQUERQUE VOTERS DESERVE TO BE REPRESENTED BY LEADERS WITH THE MAJORITY VOTE. IT WAS ALWAYS DECIDED BY VOTERS OVER A DECADE. PUT I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE FLEET OF CHARTER AMENDMENTS MOVED FORWARD. AS THE MOTHER OF A YOUNG CHILD I KNOW FIRST-HAND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND DEBATES END UP HAPPENING AT 10 O'CLOCK. I APPRECIATE THAT THE VOTE HAS BEEN DEFERRED UNTIL JUNE 17th. I WOULD STILL SAY THAT AMENDMENTS TO OUR GOVERNING CHARTER IS JUST AN INADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO WEIGH IN. I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT A TASK FORCE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO REALLY TRULY ENGAGE IN THIS PROCESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES ANY DECISION. >> ROSE MARY FOLLOWED BY DIDI. >> THANK YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME THE? >> YES. >> OKAY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M ROSEMARY RESIDENT AND HOMEOWNER AND VOTER IN DISTRICT TWO IN THE NORTH VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SEEKING IN MY -- SPEAKING AS A PERSON CONCERNED IN PROTECTING AND BUILDING RESPONSIVENESS IN DEMOCRATIC CHARACTER OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. THERE'S SO MANY RESOLUTIONS IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT SEEMS TO BE PART OF A CORD -- COORDINATED ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT LESS -- YOU'RE PROPOING CHARTER CHANGES TO STRIP THE AUTHORITY OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE FINAL CHOICES ON WHO IS THE MAYOR ASK COUNCILORS ARE BY MAJORITY VOTE. THIS IS PART OF A GROUP OF PROPOSALS SEEKING TO NOT ONLY CHANGE, BUT PROPOSE CHARTER CHANGES TO CREATE BUREAUCRACY OF OVERSIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE A WAY OF GETTING EVEN. UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM THE MAYOR AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH CARRY OUT LEGISLATION ADOPTED BY THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. EACH IS ELECTED. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> DIDI. >> THANK YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME, MR. PRESIDENT? >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THE THIRD TIME IS THE CHARM. THANKING YOU FOR DEFERRING THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE. AND ASKING YOU TO DEFER IT EVEN FURTHER UNTIL A BLUE RIBBON CHARTER TASK FORCE CAN BE SET UP TO DISCUSS NOT ONLY WHETHER WE SHOULD GO BACK TO A 40% THRESHOLD BUT WHETHER AND HOW WE SHOULD ALTER THE BALANCE OF POWER. BETWEEN THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE DISCUSSION OF CHANING THE THRESHOLD. AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF FRINGE CANDIDATES RUNNING, HOW IT WOULD AFFECT PUBLIC FINANCING, THE POSSIBILITY OF MORE CANDIDATES. A TASK FORCE LIKE SUGGESTED IN COUNCILOR BACA'S R-24-58 WOULD ALLOW DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN. MEANWHILE, PLEASE VOTE AGAINST CU1. IT'S ANTI- DEMOCRATIC AND MAKE GOVERNING A CITY OF ALMOST A MILLION MORE DIFFICULT SINCE THE WINNER WOULD NOT HAVE THE LEGITIMACY. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR P-1 AND COMPANION RESOLUTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. WE'RE ON P1. I'M GOING TO MOVE DEFERRAL. JUNE 17th. MOVED AND SECONDED. DISCUSS DEFERRAL. I'LL SAY A FEW THINGS. AGAIN, THIS IS, I THINK THE SECOND PUBLIC MEETING ON THIS OR OPEN MEETING. AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON JUNE 17th. AND WELCOME EMAILS AND INPUT AND THIS BILL ALONG WITH ALL OF THEM HAVE TAKEN SHAPE BECAUSE OF THE FEEDBACK AND INPUT AND DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD. OVER THESE WEEKS AND BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROCESS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS. I WOULD SAY I THINK THERE'S NOTHING MORE UNDEMOCRATIC THAN RUNOFF ELECTIONS WHERE VOTES ARE SUPPRESSED. A LOT OF VOTER SUPPRESSION WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL TURNOUT. WITH PEOPLE THAT ULTIMATELY DECIDE THE VOTE. PEOPLE COME AND GOOD TURNOUTS IN ARB, ESPECIALLY IN GENERAL ELECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAKE THEIR VOTE AND THEIR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT GOES TO A RUNOFF. FOR THAT REASON, WHEN IT COMES TO RANK CHOICE. I LIKE THAT IDEA WHEN IT XHOOZ TO IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT RANK CHOICE IS CONFUSING TO VOTERS. IT CONTINUALLY GETS VOTED DOWN BECAUSE IT'S SO CONFUSING IN THAT REGARD. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO BE ABLE TO -- AS FAR AS ADDRESS VOTER SUPPRESSION IN THAT REGARD, WHEN IT COMES TO RUNOFF ELECTIONS WE'VE DONE THIS FOR TEN YEARS AND TIME FOR THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE ON WHETHER THIS IS HOW THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO RUN. I'D ALSO JUST COMMENT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING TONIGHT, I APPRECIATE THE UNION BOSSES FOR COMING TONIGHT. THEY PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE. RESPECT FOR THEIR ORGANIZATIONS AND WHO THEY REPRESENT AND WHO THEY FIGHT FOR. EVERY ONE OF THE UNION BOSSES WAS NOT LECTED WITH 5 -- ELECTED WITH 50% THRESHOLD. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS -- THE POLICE UNION RUNS, AND THAT'S HOW THE REST OF THEM DO. I BELIEVE IT'S HIP CRITICAL TO SAY -- I THINK IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION. WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. AND I TRUST THE VOTERS. FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE ON HOW THEY WANT ELECTIONS TO BE RUN. DISCUSSION ON DEFERRAL? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I FINALLY HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MORROW. WHAT HAPPENS AT THE THIRD HEARING? I LOOKED AT THE CHARTER TODAY. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, IT SEEMED CLEAR THERE WERE TWO HEARINGS. IF THERE WERE AMENDMENTS AT THE SECOND ONE, IT EXTENDS TO A THIRD HEARING. WHAT HAPPENS AT THE THIRD HEARING? IS IT JUST A VOTE REGARDLESS? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THAT IS CORRECT. THE CHARTER DOES SAY THERE MUST BE A THIRD HEARING SHOULD THE PROPOSALS BE AMENDED AT THE SECOND HEARING. THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR A FOURTH HEARING IF ANYTHING IS AMENDED IN THE THIRD HEARING. THE PROPOSALS WILL BE VOTED UP OR DOWN. SHOULD IT BE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL CAN DEFER. THE THIRD HEARING IS ALL REQUIRED FOR PROPOSALAL -- PROPOSAL TO BE PASSED OR FAILED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. SO IN THE CHARTER IT SAYS THERE WILL BE TWO OR THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS. I THINK THE FOLKS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME EXPRESSED CONCERN OVER WHAT THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS LOOK LIKE. THE FIRST ONE STARTED AT LIKE 9:47. AND TONIGHT THEY STARTED AT AROUND 9:50. IS THERE ANY PROVISION IN THE CHARTER FOR WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE TO LOOK LIKE OR WHEN THEY START OR HOW MUCH PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE AN INPUT INTO THIS? I'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN'T STAY UP UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK. >> NO, THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIED IN THE CHARTER OTHER THAN NEED FOR PUBLIC HEARING. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE CHARTER. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT THE P-24-1. IT'S GOT AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 2025. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT A BODY WHO HAS FIVE MEMBERS THAT WILL BE UP FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR CAN CHANGE THE WAY THE ELECTION IS RUN FOR THEIR ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR. IS THAT NORMAL? DO WE NOT USUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY BETWEEN WHEN WE CHANGE THE WAY ELECTIONS WORK AND WHEN THEY'RE IMPACTED BY THE VOTERS? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M NOT AWARE OF A RESTRICTION ON THIS COUNCIL ESTABLISHING THE RULES FOR ELECTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT IF THERE'S SOME -- IF YOU GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OFFHAND THAT PROHIBITS THE COUNCIL FROM ESTABLISHING THE NEXT ELECTION IN WHICH THE COUNCILORS ARE ELECTED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS EXPRESS CONCERN. I HAVE TO SAY, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT THERE WILL BE FIVE OF US POTENTIALLY RUNNING FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR. I WILL SAY THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT AN INCUMBENT HAS AN ADVANTAGE ALREADY. GIVING OURSELVES AN ADDITIONAL ADVANTAGE OF LOWERING THE PERCENTAGE REQUIRED FOR THE ELECTION DOES SEEM LIKE IT COULD BE CONSTRUED POORLY BY THE PUBLIC. I JUST LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OTHER GOVERNMENTAL LEVELS HAVE DONE ABOUT THIS. AND IF THERE'S -- IF IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO HAVE A BUFFER BETWEEN WHEN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT COULD IMPACT US IN A POSITIVE WAY IN THE NEXT ELECTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: JUST A QUICK STATEMENT. ONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CORRECT IN THE RECORD, ALTHOUGH THERE'S SEVERAL UNIONS WHOSE BYLAWS I DON'T KNOW, I CAN SAY ONE UNION THE FIREFIGHTERS MUST BE ELECTED BY 50 PLUS ONE MAJORITY. MUCH LIKE EVERYTHING WE DO IN THIS BODY. EVERYTHING IS 50 PLUS ONE. LOTS OF STATEMENTS MADE. JUST A QUICK -- LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE, IF YOU USE DEMOCRACY TO CUT BACK ON DEMOCRACY, THAT'S UNDEMOCRATIC. IF YOU'RE USING DEMOCRACY TO TAKE AWAY THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY THAT'S NOT DEMOCRACY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IF YOU CAN INCULLING -- INDULGE ME. I WANT TO SPEAK WITH WHAT COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SAID. I WAS LOOKING AT AN AMENDMENT FOR DELAY. YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE PERCEPTION LIKE THAT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE DID IT OR DIDN'T. IF I CAN ADD COMMENTS. I PULLED THIS OUT OF VOTE. IT'S A NON-PARTISAN, NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE. I PULLED THIS. IT SAYS WHAT THE HISTORY BEHIND RUN' OFF -- RUNOFF ELECTIONS. IT'S TO OBTAIN WHITE POLITICAL POWER. THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR WHICH DESCRIBES GEORGIA'S RUNOFF LAW WAS AN ATTEMPT TO PROTECT THE WHITE POLITICAL POWER IN WHITE MAJORITY STATES. BY REQUIING MAJORITY VOTE OF 50%. THE FEAR WAS MULTI-CANDIDATE RACE WHERE VOTES ARE SPLIT BETWEEN CANDIDATES, A BLACK CANDIDATE WOULD -- WHITE FACTIONS THAT EXISTED IN PRIMARY ELECTIONS COULD UNITE IN A RUNOFF ELECTION TO SUPPORT ONE CANDIDATE AND REDUCE THE CANDIDATE THAT WERE FAVORED BY BLACK COMMUNITIES OR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE SOUTH. AND IT GOES TO SAY THERE ARE OTHER REASONS WHY RUNOFF ELECTIONS ARE PROBLEMATIC. IT SAYS THEY SUFFER FROM VOTER DROPOFF. FEWER VOTERS CAST A BALLOT. GENERAL ELECTIONS ARE MORE WIDELY PROMOTED WITH MULTIPLE OFFICE FOR ELECTION AS WELL AS BALLOT MEASURES. VOTERS ARE JUST AWARE AND MOTIVATED TO TURN OUT. RUNOFFICE OCCUR DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON. IN NOVEMBER. BETWEEN MID-NOVEMBER AND EARLY JANUARY. WHICH IS ALREADY BUSY TIME OF THE YEAR FOR MOST VOTERS. ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE FROM MARGINALIZED COMMUNICOMMUNITIES. THIS DROPOFF IS TRUE AMONG UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS SUCH AS YOUNG VOTERS, VOTERS WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND VOTERS WITH DISABILITIES. A SMALL NON-REPRESENTATIVE GROUPS MAKE OUTSIDE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. THE LACK OF REPRESENTATION. THE COST OF RUNNING LARGELY UNNECESSARY ELECTIONS IS A SECONDARY ISSUE. THE ELECTIONS ARE EXPECTED -- IT JUST SAYS ELECTIONS ARE EXPENSIVE TO ADMINISTER. RUNOFF ARE NOT ONLY UNNECESSARY BUT UNDEMOCRATIC BY DESIGN. AND THEN I WON'T READ -- IT SAYS, I'LL END IT WITH THIS, RUNOFF ELECTIONS ARE ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN THE SOUTH. EACH STATE HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR HOLDING THE RUNOFF ELECTIONS. WHETHER THE RUNOFF IS THE TRUE WHETHER THE TRUE MAJORITY OF THE THRESHOLD. STATES THAT HAVE SOME FORM OF RUNOFF FOR STATE-WIDE AND GENERAL ELECTIONS INCLUDE ALABAMA ARKANSAS GEORGIA LOUISIANA, MISSISSIPPI, NORTH CAROLINA, TEXAS, AND VERMONT. THESE ARE IN THE SOUTH WHERE THESE ORIGINATED TO KEEP BLACK VOTERS FROM VOTING. IT'S STILL IN THE SOUTH WHERE THE RUNOFF ELECTIONS ARE HELL TODAY. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. I DO AGREE THAT WHEN COUNCILOR LEWIS ASKED ME TO SIGN ON TO THIS I WAS RELUCTANT, BUT JUST DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, I THINK IT MERITS THE CONVERSATION AND I DON'T SEE IT AS A POWER STRUGGLE AT ALL. I SEE IT AS WANTING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO HELP PEOPLE IN MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES TO GET OUT AND VOTE. YOU KNOW, IN 2021 WE HAD 197,000 PEOPLE OUT OF ALMOST A MILLION PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE VOTE. I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK ON GETTING PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE IN GENERAL. RUNOFF ELECTIONS SEEM LIKE THERE'S A HISTORY BEHIND IT AND BEING A PERSON OF COLOR I HAVE ALWAYS HAVE CONCERNS WHEN THERE'S A RED FLAG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COM. BENSON: MR. PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO TENGSD THE MEET -- EXTEND THE MEETING TO MIDNIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, WE DO HAVE A LOT -- WE STILL HAVE A LOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. I'M WILLING TO MOVE THESE BILLS AROUND SOME TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO ALL OF THEM. I'M WILLING TO SAY HERE UNTIL 3 A.M. IF THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES. WE NEED TO GET THEM AND DEAL WITH THEM TONIGHT. LET'S DO THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED FOR DEFERRAL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ] SFWLB YES. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, THIS IS R-47. THIS IS ADOPTION AND PROPOSITION TO BE HELD. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION TO P1. I MOVE A DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE FOR DO PASS. I WANT TO MOVE -- WE HAVE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS. ONE OR TWO ARE MORE THAN JUST TECHNICAL. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. R-24-47. THIS IS ON PAGE 1 LINE 19 STRIKE MUNICIPAL AND REPLACE WITH GENERAL. EXPLANATION. THIS AMENDMENT SPECIFIES THAT P24-1 BE PLACED ON THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT. SCHEDULED FOR 2025. I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY CAUGHT THIS. IT'S ONE WORD CHANGE. MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT. MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COM. BENSON: . >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M GOING TO MOVE DEFERRAL OF R-47 TO JUNE 17th. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. . >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON ITEM D. P2. PROPOSITION TO BE SENT TO THE VOTERS OF THE 2024 ELECTION REGARDING THE PROCEDURES AND REMOVAL OF CITY ATTORNEY AND CLERK. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT DUE PASS. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I THINK THERE'S ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. CHRISTIAN FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP ARE NOT HERE. THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR P2. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. NO SPEAKERS. OKAY. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. WE'RE GOING TO DEFER THIS. WE DO HAVE -- NO AMENDMENTS TO THIS? OKAY. I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS ON P2? ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: [ INAUDIBLE ] YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S -- NEXT IS R-48. THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT. ADOPTING PROPOSITION TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE VOTERS AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AMENDMENT STARTING. ALBUQUERQUE CITY CHARTER IN THE FORM OF BALLOT QUESTION. THE RESOLUTION FOR PROPOSITION TWO. I MOVE A DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE DEFER THIS IN A MOMENT. FIRST OF ALL MOVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT. THIS IS SIMILAR TO R-47. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ON PAGE ONE, STRIKE MUNICIPAL AND REPLACE WITH GENERAL. I MOVE THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT. MOTION AND SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COM. BENSON: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. [ ROLL CALL ] >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON ITEM F. P3 ADOPTION OF PROPOSITION OF VOTERS TO BE SENT TO THE GENERAL ELECTION ARTICLE FIVE OF THE CITY OF ARTICLE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS AND REMOVAL OF THE CHIEF AND FIRE CHIEF. I MOVE A DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE FOR DO PASS. FLOOR AMENDMENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. TO P24-3. THIS IS ON PAGE TWO. STRIKE LINE 30. ADD ONLY AND FOR CAUSE. STRIKE ONLY ASK FOR -- AND FOR CAUSE. ON PAGE TWO ADD FOR ANY REASON AFTER MAYOR AND STRIKE OR. ON PAGE TWO LINE 30 ADD POLICE AND FIRE CHIEF MAY ALSO BE REMOVED BEFORE WITH. THE POLICE AND FIRE CHIEFS BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE BY THE MAYOR FOR ANY REASON. THE POLICE AND FIRE CHIEF MAY ALSO BE REMOVED WITH AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF TWO-THIRDS PLUS ONE. AFTER CAUSE HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. THIS AMENDMENT EXPLAINS THAT THE MAYOR MAY TERMINATE THE XHEEF -- CHIEF FOR ANY REASON. THE CURRENT CHARTER DOES NOT GIVE THE MAYOR THAT ABILITY. IT CLARIFIES FOR CAUSE DETERMINED BY THE INSPECTOR ONLY APPLIES WHEN COUNCIL REMOVES THE CHIEF. THIS CLARIFIES THEY SERVE AT THE WILL OF THE MAYOR WITH COUNCIL HAVING THE MEANS TO INTERVENE. THAT'S FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION FOR QUESTIONS ON THAT AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THIS BEFORE NOW. WE'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THE MAYOR MORE POWER THAN HE HAS ORIGINALLY WITH THIS AMENDMENT? >>COUN. LEWIS: IT COULDN'T CLARIFY. IT WASN'T IN THE CHARTER. WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN AND GIVING CLARITY. KEN, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT? MR. MORROW. >> CERTAINLY. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE CURRENT CHARTER SAYS THAT THE POLICE CHIEF OR FIRE CHIEF MAY BE REMOVED FOR CAUSE BY TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S UNSPECIFIED WHETHER THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORITY TO UNILATERALLY REMOVE THE CHIEF. I RECOGNIZE THE CHARTER DOES GIVE THE MAYOR THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH. HE WOULD HAVE AN ARGUMENT THAT HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THIS. THIS SPECIFIES AND THAT IT CLEAR CLEARLY AS THE THAT AUTHORITY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: WE'RE JUST SAYING FOR SURE WE'RE GIVING THE MAYOR ALL THE AUTHORITY HE NEEDS TO HIRE AND FIRE STAFF THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, CORRECT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE PUT THE COUNCIL FOR CAUSE AND WE GIVE DEFINITION FOR CAUSE AND HOW THAT'S DEFINED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION. CURRENTLY, IF THE MAYOR WANTED TO REMOVE ANY CHIEF, POLICE CHIEF OR FIRE CHIEF, WOULD THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAVE TO DETERMINE CAUSE? OR THAT'S JUST IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO THAT? SDMRL ON THIS . >>COUN. LEWIS: I BELIEVE THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT, IT WASN'T SPECIFIED. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE CURRENT CHARTER ONLY SAYS THEY MUST BE REMOVED FOR CAUSE. THERE'S NO SPECIFICITY AS TO HOW CAUSE IS DETERMINED. THIS PROPOSAL PROVIDES THA SPECIFICITY BY SAYING FOR THE CAUSE IS DETERMINED BY DETERMINATION OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. >>COUN. ROGERS: DOES THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAVE PROCESS FOR THIS NOW? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, AT THIS POINT THIS ISN'T AN AUTHORITY THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS. NO, THERE ARE NOT PROCESSES IN PLACE. IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE INSPECTOR GENERAL TO CREATE THE PROCESS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THIS REMINDS ME OF THE CONVERSATION DURING THE NO CONFIDENCE VOTE. STILL DON'T HAVE PROCESSES TO IDENTIFY CAUSE OR NO CAUSE FOR REMOVING THE POSITIONS FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO CLARIFY. BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT SAYS IN THE CHARTER THAT CAUSE IS DETERMINED BY THE OFFICE OF INTERNAL AUDIT AND INVESTIGATION. WHICH IS NO LONGER A DEPARTMENT THAT EXISTS. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT FOR THE OFFICE OF CITY CLERK AND ATTORNEY. FOR THE CHIEF IT'S UNSPECIFIED. IT JUST SAYS FOR CAUSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. P3. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, I KNOW THEY SEN SENT SUGGESTIONS. I WANTED TO KNOW IF SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THIS. AND IF THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH WHAT WE'VE INCORPORATED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THESE -- THIS AMENDMENT DOES ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE SENT OVER IN OUR COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY AND RELATED TO THE HIING AND FIRING OF THE CHIEF. YES. SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE SHARED ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. SENGEL, WHAT IS NOT ADDRESSED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE ITEM THAT WE BROUGHT UP RELATED TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE AS INTERIM STATUS FOR UP TO NINE MONTHS IS NOT IN THIS AMENDMENT IN PARTICULAR. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION TO ADDING THAT? >>COUN. LEWIS: I BELIEVE WE EXTENDED THAT TIME, CORRECT? YEAH. WHAT DO WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CURRENTLY WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I BELIEVE COUNCILOR PEÑA'S PROPOSAL WOULD BE PROPERLY ENTERTAINED AS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. IT'S OUTSIDE THE SCOPE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT IS AN AMENDMENT COMING UP? >> THERE -- I DON'T BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW OF A FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S FOR 45-60. >> CERTAINLY. THERE'S NO REASON THAT COUNCILOR PEÑA COULD NOT INTRODUCE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, SO I CAN CLARIFY I WAS WANTING TO KNOW IF THIS SUGGESTION EMAILED TO US WERE INCORPORATED INTO THESE MOMENTS. IF THAT PORTION OF IT WASN'T, I'D LIKE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT AFTER WE PASS THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL SETTLE THIS AMENDMENT AND WE CAN DO ANOTHER AMENDMENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. COUNCILOR PEÑA. MR. MORROW, CLARIFY WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF DAYS RIGHT NOW? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, ON PAGE TWO LINE 25 IT SAYS NO PERSON -- THE ENTIRE -- NO PERSON SAY SERVE FOR ANY OF THE ABOVE NOTED FOR A PERIOD OF GREATER THAN 90 DAYS. I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO AMEND THAT TO 270 DAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA, WHAT'S YOUR WISH? >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS HOPING TO INCORPORATE. THEY'RE MAKING SUGGESTIONS. I JUST THOUGHT OUT OF GOOD WILL WE INCORPORATE SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL LET YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: DR. SENGEL CAN ADD THE INFORMATION. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU. THE SENTENCE THAT SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY TO 90 DAYS, I BELIEVE IN THE LAST -- THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN AMENDMENT TO 180 DAYS. IS THAT CORRECT? WE PROPOSE WE CHANGE 180 DAYS TO 270 DAYS IN THAT SPECIFIC LINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMEND IT TO 180 DAYS CORRECT? AND YOU WANT 207? >> MR. PRESIDENT, YES. JUSTIFICATION OR FOR THIS IS RELATED TO THE ISWHEN WE DO THOROUGH AND NATIONAL SEARCHES IT CAN TAKE NINE MONTHS. WE'VE SEEN THAT EVIDENCED IN THE PAST ITSELF THAT IT GIVES ENOUGH TIME FRAME TO ENSURE WE CAN FULFILL THE SEARCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M GOING TO PROPOSE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. TO STRIKE 180 AND ADD 270. THAT'S SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. THE ADMINISTRATION IS THRILLED BY THIS. GIVE THEM EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. COUNCIL ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. HOW LONG DID THE LAST CHIEF SEARCH TAKE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS MY UNDERSTANDING IS CLOSE TO NINE MONTHS WHEN THEY COMPLETED FROM BEGINNING TO END. I WAS NOT HERE AND I DON'T WANT -- I DIDN'T CHECK THE DATE OR DAYS OF THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. HOW ABOUT, MAYBE KEVIN CAN ANSWER HOW LONG THAT SEARCH WAS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS FIVE OR SIX MONTHS. OVER SIX MONTHS, I THINK. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK -- WHAT I OBSERVED IN MY SHORT TIME BEING ON ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE IS WHEN WE HAVE CHANGE OVER IN A CRITICAL POSITION LIKE THIS, THINGS TEND TO KIND OF STOP IN THE DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS NEW CHANGES, BEING INNOVATIVE. INTERIMS ARE NOT WILLING TO MAKE CHANGES BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST INTERIM. I'M AFRAID IF WE LET IT GO OUT THAT LONG, IT WILL CONTINUE TO CREATE THAT FEELING OF I CAN'T DO MUCH BECAUSE I'M AN INTERIM. THAT'S JUST -- I HAVE TO VOCALIZE THAT. IT MAKES ME WORRIED. WE SEE THIS EVEN WITH THE CHANGE IN MAYORS. THE LAST TW YEARS PEOPLE GET REAL INTERESTING IN HOW THEY WANT TO BE INNOVATIVE OR NOT. I JUST WORRY TO PROLONG THE PROCESS FOR THAT LONG. WE SHOULD -- I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO MY POINT BEFORE ABOUT A LACK OF ANY KIND OF EVALUATION PROCESS OR SUCCESSION PLANNING. THERE'S NONE OF THAT IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I LIKE TO VOCALIZE AND SAY CAN WE THINK ABOUT THAT IN SUCCESSION PLANNING AND GETTING FOLKS PREPARED TO TAKE THESE ROLES SO IT DOESN'T TAKE THIS LONG. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE US THINKING OF THAT IN ADDITION TO GIING MORE TIME IS WE GET BETTER WITH OUR PROCESSES ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON P3. AS AMENDED. I'LL MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. TO DEFER TO JUNE 17. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, R-49 IS THE RESOLUTION TO PROPOSITION -- THERE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT THAT MIRRORS THE SAME AMENDMENT. I MOVE DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR DO PASS. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. WHICH AGAIN IS THE MIRROR THE AMENDMENT TO P3. WE'RE ON PAGE TWO LINE TRIKE STRIKE FOR ONLY CAUSE. ON PAGE TWO LINE 30 ADD POLICE AND FIRE CHIEF REMOVED. I MOVE THE AMENDMENT. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. SAME BILL. THIS IS CHANGE IN THE WORD FROM MUNICIPAL TO GENERAL. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT THAT REFLECTS THE 370 -- 207 -- 270 DAYS. >> THE AMENDMENT IN P3 WOULD BE TO AMEND PAGE THREE LINE FIVE, AND CHANGE 180 TO 270. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THAT AS STATED BY MR. MORROW. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL. ANY DISCUSSION ON DEFERRAL OF R-49? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM H IS P4. ADOPTING PROPOSITION BE SENT TO THE VOTERS. ARTICLE 19 OF THE CHARTER. PROCEDURE TO DETERMINE SEPARATION OF POWERS ISSUES ON THE CITY CHARTER. I MOVE A DO PASS. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. FLOOR AMENDMENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, STRIKE 45 AND REPLACE WITH 60. THIS EXTENDS THE BODY TO MAKE APPOINTMENT BY 15 DAYS. SUFFICIENT TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. THIS MOVES TO 60. MOVED AND SECONDED. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE P4 AS AMENDED. DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? P4. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ] I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I THINK COUNCILOR PEÑA WANTED ADMINISTRATION TO COMMENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WAS ASKED IF YOU HAD SUGGESTIONS FOR ALL THESE PROPOSITIONS. I WONDERED IF YOU SENT ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THIS AND IF THEY'RE INCORPORATED INTO THIS? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA. THE ONE ITEM THAT IS NOT INCORPORATED THAT WE SENT DOWN IS THE LANGUAGE THAT'S ON PAGE TWO LINE 24 AND 25 SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT EITHER BODY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO POINT FOR THE OTHER BODY IF TWO INDIVIDUALS HAVE RESIGNED OR BEEN REMOVED FROM THE POSITIONS IN THE 365 DAYS. WE EXPRESSED CONCERN BECAUSE MANY TIMES THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAY RESULT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT EITHER BODY HAS CONTROL. IF YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL WITH CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR DEATH OR ILLNESS OR OTHER MATTERS THAT CAUSE SOMEONE TO RESIGN FROM THIS COMMITTEE. IF YOU HAD A SITUATION IN A YEAR WHERE YOU HAD AN APPOINTEE, TWO HAVE TO RESIGN, IT THROWS OFF THE BALANCE OF WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NEUTRAL ARBITRATING OR MEDIATING COMMITTEE BETWEEN THE TWO BODIES TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE APPOINTED BY ONE OF THE BODIES. WE THINK IT'S FAIR BETWEEN -- FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS FOR BOTH BODIES. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE RESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN ASK A QUESTION OF THE ATTORNEY. KEVIN, I KNOW THE RESULT OF THIS ACTION WAS BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION HAD NOT OR WOULD NOT OR DID NOT APPOINT SOMEONE TO THIS BODY UNTIL WE ACTUALLY PUT THIS PROPOSITION FORWARD. HOW CAN WE -- WHAT WAS YOUR SUGGESTION FOR THIS CHANGE, MS. SENGEL, AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT I'LL STILL ASK QUESTION. HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THIS, MR. MORROW. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR.MERO. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, I BELIEVE THE INTENT OF HAVING ALLOWING FOR PROVIING RATHER THAT IF TWO APPOINTES RESIGNED WN -- ONE YEAR PERIOD IS TO EPISURE EN ENSURE BOTH MADE IN GOOD FAITH AND PREVENTING RESIGNATIONS SO NOTHING GOT DONE. THAT'S DIRECT REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT PRIOR TO VERY RECENTLY NO MAYOR, NEITHER MAYOR KELLER NOR MAYOR BERRY APPOINTED SOMEONE TO THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE. IF YOU WERE TRYING TO ENTERTAIN THE WISHES OF THE ADMINISTRATION I COULD CERTAINLY BE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF RESIGNATIONS WITHIN THE YEAR IF THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN. PERHAPS MOVING IT TO THREE. OR FOUR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER WAS. THE IDEA WAS IT WOULD BE HAVING TWO RESIGN WITHIN ONE YEAR WOULD INDICATE SOME DEGREE OF GAME PLAN. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN GO BACK TO MS. SENGEL AND ASK HER HOW DO WE PROPOSE TO REMEDY THAT? THAT'S A REAL ISSUE, RIGHT? GO BACK TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT POWER STRUGGLE. THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES WHERE WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER WHEN THERE'S CONFLICT, AND WHEN ONE BODY DOESN'T APPOINT SOMEBODY IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. HOW WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO ADDRESS THAT? >> I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATION WAS REMOVAL OF THIS LANGUAGE. I THINK THAT A COMPROMISE WOULD BE ONE THAT WE PERHAPS WOULD WANT TO THINK THROUGH TOGETHER TO DETERMINE A WAY TO ENSURE GOOD FAITH LANGUAGE. ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT BINDING IT IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE AND ALSO SET AN EXPECTATION CLEARLY THAT WE WOULD BE APPOINTING WITHIN MAKING GOOD FAITH TO ENSURE THERE'S APPOINTMENT SO THAT THE BODY CAN ACT. WHETHER IT'S INCREASING THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS RESIGNATIONS IN ONE YEAR IS A CONSIDERATION. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT OTHER LANGUAGE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. MORROW, WE'RE STILL REQUIRED TO APPOINT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. IT WOULD REALLY NOT BE A PENALTY IF THEY DON'T, CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THAT WE STRIKE THIS LANGUAGE. IF COUNCILOR PEÑA IS OKAY WITH THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I REALLY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION REALLY NEEDED TO. BECAUSE WE WOULD GO BACK TO THE SAME PLACE WE'RE AT. THEY JUST WOULDN'T APPOINT SOMEONE. I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD PUT OTHER FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS AT. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY BUSINESS. I THINK MAYBE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE IT, YOU CAN MAKE THAT AMENDMENT. AS CAO SENGEL SUGGESTED WE COULD WORK WITH MR. MORROW TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON THAT, MR. MORROW? >> CERTAINLY. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED DOES REQUIRE EACH BODY TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITHIN 60 DAYS. SO THERE IS SOME IMPETUS FOR A BODY TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. I THINK THERE IS TECHNICALLY THIS -- WE COULD CREATE GOOD FAITH LANGUAGE AND OTHER WAYS TO COMPROMISE, BUT THERE'S STILL THE LANGUAGE TO COMPEL THE BODY TO MAKE APPOINTMENT WITHIN 60 DAYS. THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED YET. AS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED WOULD STILL COMPEL EACH SIDE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITHIN 60 DAYS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. WE NEED TO HANDLE THIS AMENDMENT FIRST AND WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT TO COME UP WITH AN ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT ADDRESSES IT. MS. SENGEL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. WHAT MR. MORROW IS WHERE I'M ABOUT TO GO THE LINE YOU AMENDED RIGHT BEFORE THIS TO PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO 60 DAYS STILL STATES THAT IF WE DO NOT APPOINT THE OTHER BODY HAS THAT AUTHORITY. THIS IS ALMOST REDUNDANT IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE THAT IF WE'RE NOT MEETING OBLIGATION TO APPOINT YOU WOULD -- THE OTHER BODY WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPOINT. I THINK MR. MORROW'S POINT IS ACCURATE IN POINTING OUT THERE'S ALREADY SOME SAFEGUARD IN THIS WITH REMUVEN -- REMOVING THE 365-DAY CLAUSE WE HAVE A SAFEGUARD THE APPOINTMENT WOULD OCCUR WITHIN 60 DAYS. >>COUN. LEWIS: TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT MS. SENGEL JUST SAID, WHAT WOULD BE THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CAPTURE THAT SOME. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DON'T BELIEVE AN AMENDMENT PER SE WOULD BE REQUIRED OTHER THAN TO DO WHAT YOU INITIALLY SUGGESTED WHICH IS TO STRIKE THE PORTION REGARDING IF TWO PERSONS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR RESIGN WITHIN 365-DAY PERIOD. IF WE LEFT THE REST OF THE AMENDMENT INTACT, IF WOULD SAY IF THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL FAILS TO NAME A REPLACEMENT -- THE OTHER BODY SHALL MAKE THE APPOINTMENT. THAT DOES PROVIDE PRESSURE ON EACH SIDE TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS IN GOOD FAITH. WE COULD ADD GOOD FAITH LANGUAGE TO MS. SENGEL. YES IT DOES NOT ADDRESS THE IDEA OF PROPOING THE -- SERIAL APPOINTMENTS OF PEOPLE THAT RESIGN ANY TIME AN ISSUE COMES UP. THAT'S ALSO NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN YET BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAVE THIS COMMITTEE FUNCTION. IT'S UP TO THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AS WHETHER WE THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO CONTINUE ON THAT KIND OF PRESSURE. 60 DOES CREATE EMERGENCY ON BOTH SIDES TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: SHOULD WE DEAL WITH THAT AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW AND DO IT ALL TOGETHER IN ONE AMENDMENT? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 60-DAY VACANCY. I'M SORRY, THE 60 DAYS CURRENTLY, AND WE CAN WORK -- THERE'S NOTHING TO PRECLUDE THIS FROM BEING AMENDED AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE DID HAVE THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER. IF WE WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE AS YOU PROPOSED, YOU CAN DO THAT. IF YOU LIKE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WE CAN WORK ON IT RECOGNIZE RIGHT NOW OR CRAFT SOMETHING OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND ADDRESS IT AT JUNE 17th. >>COUN. LEWIS: WOULD WE HAVE TIME TO PUBLISH IT AND FINAL ACTION ON THE 17th? >> YES, IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THE FULL TEXT PUBLISHED TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION TO HAVE CAO SENGEL WORK WITH MR. MORROW TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF CONSENSUS OR RESOLUTION AT THE NEXT MEETING. >>COUN. LEWIS: TO DO THAT WE DON'T MOVE THIS AMENDMENT OR WOO DO? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU'VE YOU'RE WELCOME TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK I DID MOVE THE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU WHERE MR. -- HOW OFTEN DOES THIS HAPPEN? THE QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN DO CITY COUNCIL OR MAYORS NOT DO AN APPOINTMENT TO HAVE THESE VACANCIES FILLED? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THE MAYOR'S -- NO MAYOR HAS EVER MADE AN APPOINTMENT TO THIS COMMITTEE. THE PURPOSE OF THESE AMENDMENTS WAS TO COMPEL -- CITY COUNCIL TWICE MADE APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS NEVER DONE IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AND THE ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITHIN A FEW WEEKS AFTER SEEING OUR DESIRE TO DO THIS. ACTUALLY PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. IT WASN'T AN ISSUE OF NEEDING 60 DAYS TO DO IT. OTHER DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO BASICALLY GO OVER THIS. WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE OF THESE. THE CHARTER STATES WHEN DISPUTE THAT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE BE FORM TO WORK OUT DISPUTS. THAT COMMITTEE IS APPOINTING ONE PERSON AND THE MAYOR APPOINT A PERSON, AND THE TWO PICK A THIRD PERSON. THE MAYOR DID NOT DO IT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE'RE FRYING -- TRYING TO ADD TEETH SO IF THE MAYOR DOESN'T HONOR THE OBLIGATION, THEN THE OTHER BODY GETS TO ADD THAT NEXT PERSON TO DEAL WITH THE -- SO IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. MAYOR BERRY DIDN'T APPOINT AND MAYOR KELLER HASN'T APPOINTED ANYBODY UNTIL THREE WEEKS AGO. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS NOW. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS AMENDMENT ONE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. QUICKLY, JUST SAME THING. CHANGE -- REPLACE WITH GENERAL. MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. R-24-50. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. DISCUSSION? [ ROLL CALL ] -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK WE'RE NOT ON POINT WITH THE AGENDA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I CONCUR WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE NEED TO -- >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON -- >> WE NEED TO MOVE TO CAN -- TO MOVE P4. I CAN'T MOVE THAT. SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO MOVE THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE AMENDED P4 TWICE. WE AMENDED IT ONCE AND NOW DEFERRAL. I MOVE DEFERRAL OF P4 TO JUNE 17th. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: R-50 IS RELATED TO P4. I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAKER. WE'LL LET THE SPEAKER SPEAK. I'LL MOVE DUE -- DO PASS ON R-50. MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS ON R-50. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME FLOOR AMENDMENTS. AND WE'RE GOING TO DEFER. BEFORE THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SPEAKER. NO SPEAKER? ALL RIGHT. R-50. THIS IS WHERE ONE AMENDMENT THAT'S GOING TO REPLACE -- WE'RE GOING TO DO THE 45 TO 60 DAYS JUST LIKE WE DID THE OTHER. I MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? ALL RIGHT. IMMEDIAM [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO R-24-50 IS THE STRIKING MUNICIPAL AND REPLACING WITH GENERAL. I MOVE THAT TO FLOOR AMENDMENT. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE DEFERRAL OF R-50 AS AMENDED TO JUNE 17th. MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? IMMEDIATEM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON ITEM J. THIS IS O-26. COUNCILOR ROGERS AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS O-24-26 ADOPTING RANK CHOICE VOTING SYSTEM AND REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE TWO SECTION SEVEN AND EIGHT. ASKING CITY CLERK TO DEVELOP EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. I LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT -- I NEED A SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS? OKAY. THE AMENDMENT IS MOVED AND SECONDED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS? OKAY. WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS MARK FOLLOWED BY JUSTIN. >> LONG NIGHT. I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE SUPPORT OF 24-26. TO ADOPT RANK VOTING. WE'VE SEEN MANY ADOPTERS RANK CHOICE VOTING IN THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM AND DIRECTION TO BETTER ELECTION. RCV LET'S VOTERS FEEL COMFORTABLE NOT HAVING TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT OUR VOTES. IT'S NOT JUST -- WHEN IT'S NOT JUST ONE OR OTHER DECISION IT'S MORE AMICABLE AND LEAD TO ENDORSEMENT FOR DIFFERENT RANKS IN THE RACE. THERE ARE EVEN MORE BENEFITS, AS IT'S LATE AND I'M TIRED, I SIMPLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT O-24. >> JUSTIN FOLLOWED BY PERRY. >> CAN I HAVE THE OVERHEAD CAMERA AGAIN? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'LL CONTINUE MY LESSON ABOUT THE VOTING. I PROVIDED THE SURVEY. LET ME WRAP ISUP BY SAYING THAT IF WE USE RANK CHOICE IT'S NOT COMPLICATED. WE FIRST ELIMINATE THE LAST PLACE VOTE FOR CATCH UP. I'VE GOT ONE RED AND ONE GREEN AS SECOND CHOICES. AND WE LOOK TO THE SECOND CHOICE OF THE PEOPLE. I KNOW IT'S REALLY TINY. 44 RED 45 GREEN. AND THE NEXT CHOICE FOR PEOPLE, AND WE ARRIVE AT A MAJORITY OF 53 GREEN AT THIS STEP. I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT EXAMPLE. I CAN SHOW HOW RANK CHOICE VOTING WORKS. I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE EDUCATION AND GET ON THE BALLOT. IT'S PROVEN TO NOT BE TOO COMPLICATED FOR VOTERS FROM SANTA FE AND LAS CRUCES LIKE IT I THINK ALBUQUERQUE MIGHT LIKE IT. I HOPE YOU MIGHT GIVE THAT A CHANCE. >> TE -- TERRY FOLLOWED BY RICARDO. >> I WANT TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WELL RNG -- RANK CHOICE WORKS. FIRST, ACCORDING TO THE IMT ELECTION LAB THERE'S LITTLE EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT RCV BENEFITS ONE MAJOR PARTY OR ANOTHER. IT ALSO CITES A PAPER THAT RCV DOES NOT INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF VOTERS THAT MAKE MISTAKES THAT RENDER UNACCOUNTABLE. AN EXPERIMENT CONCLUDES THAT RANK CHOICE HAD FEWER ERRORS. LASTLY THERE ARE A NUMBER OF NON-PARTISAN OF THE STATE OR NATION THAT IS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC IN THE ISSUE AND WILL SHARE MORE RESOURCES ABOUT WHY THIS OPTION WORKS SO WELL AND IS MORE ADOPTED. SAEFRN HAPPY EVERYONE IS HAPPY TO MEET AND PARTICIPATE IN LARGER MEETINGS AND TO DETERMINE THE BEST AUMGZ FOR -- OPTION FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> RICARDO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON O-26. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE BILL IS MOVED AND SECONDED. WE'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR ROGERS. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS JUST AN AMENDMENT TO MATCH THE TITLE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE HAD LEFT OFF THE ACTUAL SECTION WHERE WE MANDATE THAT WE HAVE SOME VOTER EDUCATION. THIS IS JUST TO KEEP IN LINE WITH OUR TITLE TO INCLUDE THE VOTER EDUCATION. AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS, THIS IS BACK ON O-26 AS AMENDED. DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR ROGERS OR COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FOR ALLOWING US TO DO -- TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO GET THIS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT THE SAME TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY WANTS OTHER OPTIONS AND FOR US TO DISCUSS THE OTHER OPTIONS WHICH INCLUDE RANK CHOICE VOTING IN OUR STATE LAW. I JUST APPRECIATE THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT TODAY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CLERK. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WERE YOU CLOSING, I'M SORRY? >>COUN. LEWIS: IT WAS A CLOSE. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> IT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM K, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. R-58. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-58 IS CREAING A TASK FORCE TO REVIEW THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROPOSED REVISION. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND? THAT'S MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS REALLY AN IDEA BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THEAL -- THE EIGHT BILLS WE TALKED ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF REQUEST FOR A TASK FORCE TO LOOK THROUGH THE CHARTER AT THE ISSUES IDENTIFIED IN THE EIGHT BILLS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. BUT ALSO WITH OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE CHARTER. I THOUGHT OF ONE EARIER TONIGHT. THIS IS REALLY A PROPOSAL TO HAVE A TASK FORCE THAT LOOKS AT THE CHARTER, THINKS THROUGH WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND IT WOULD AVOID THE CONFUSION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE PEOPLE MORE OF AN INPUT. I UNDERSTAND WE'RE MEETING THE LETTER OF THE LAW WITH THE TWO OR THREE HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD. AGAIN, THIS WAS STARTED AT 9:49 AND 9:50 LATE ON MONDAY NIGHTS. IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS TASK FORCE WE COULD HAVE MORE PUBLICLY-FACING MEETINGS WHERE WE GET TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND WHAT THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED OR NOT CHANGED IN OUR CHARTER. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. WE HAVE SPEAKERS. >> WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >>COUN. LEWIS: GO TO THE SPEAKERS. >> FIRST SPEAKER IS DIDI FOLLOWED BY ROSE MARY. >> HELLO, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT. I THINK MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT WHY IT'S NECESSARY TO SLOW DOWN AND CONSIDER THESE ISSUES MORE CAREFULLY IN THE LIGHT OF DAY NOT IN THE DARK OF NIGHT. I WOULD SUPPORT A TASK FORCE TO DO THAT. I ALWAYS HAVING AN INDEPENDENT BODY SUGGEST REFORMS TO THE COUNCIL IS A GOOD IDEA. IN THE LAST CHARTER COMMISSION, BACK IN 2017, THEY CONSIDERED WHETHER TO RAISE THE SALARIES FOR CITY COUNCILLORS. THEY RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE DONE BUT OF COURSE THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY COUNCIL ITSELF COULD HAVE SUGGESTED WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE IT WAS FEATHERING ITS OWN NEST. I SUGGEST THE SAME THING WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS AND IT WOULD CREATE A CONSENSUS FOR SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN THE BALANCE OF POWER AND HOUR OUR REELECTIONS ARE RUN. THANK YOU. >> LET'S SEE IF -- CAN YOU SEE ME OR HEAR ME? >> YES. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. I'M IN DISTRICT TWO. JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT VERY MUCH THIS PROPOSAL FOR A TRUE EXAMINATION OF THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY GOVERNMENT WITH AN INDEPENDENT BODY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRAW FROM THE COMMUNITY. THIS PROCESS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH OF RACING THE -- CHARTER CHANGES TO THE BALLOT WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN. I CAN'T TELL WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN I READ YOUR PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALL CLEARLY WRITTEN. I REALLY THINK IF THERE'S THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS WITH HOW ALBUQUERQUE IS MANAING ITSELF AS A CITY AND THERE ARE, THEN WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER AN INDEPENDENT BLUE RIBBON TASK FORCE THAT CALLS FOR ON PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AND HELP US VISION WHERE WE MIGHT BE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON R-58. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO THE DISCUSSION. I'LL START OFF JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THIS CHARTER REVIEW TASK FORCE WAS CONVENED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE CHARTER TASK FORCE WAS LAST CONVENED IN 2015. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S BEEN NINE YEARS. WHEN WAS IT CREATED? WAS IT CREATED JUST SHORTLY BEFORE THAT? >> THE -- MR. PRESIDENT, THE CHARTER REVIEW TASK FORCE HAS BEEN CONVENED IN 1988, 1998, 2009 AND 2015. >>COUN. LEWIS: I IMAGINE THAT IN BETWEEN 2008 AND 2015 THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CHARTER CHANGES THAT HAPPENED. THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF CHARTER CHANGES THAT HAPPENED SINCE 2015. AND THE CHARTER OR TASK FORCE WASN'T CONVENED BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE CHARTER TASK FORCE IS FOR. ITS STATED PURPOSE IS TO DO A REVIEW. DOES IT GIVE A TIMELINE OR HOW OFTEN IT SHOULD MEET? >> MR. PRESIDENT, YOU'RE REFERRING TO HOW IT'S SET UP IN THE BILL THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT? >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M REFERRING TO HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP. WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE CHARTER. DOES IT STATE IT MUST CONVENE ONCE A YEAR OR EVERY FIVE YEARS? I DON'T THINK IT SAYS OFTEN. I THINK IT SAYS THE PURPOSE OF DOING AN ENTIRE REVIEW OVER -- I THINK AGAIN THE PURPOSE OF EIGHT YEARS GO BY AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT LARGE-SCALE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE REFLECT. CHANGE IN LANGUAGE AND THINGS THAT MODERNIZE IT. THAT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT TASK FORCE HAS BEEN USED. I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CONVENING THAT AND PUTTING THAT TASK FORCE TOGETHER. I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BILL IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FACT THAT IN THE TITLE OF THIS BILL IS TO SPECIFICALLY REVIEW THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS. I HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CHARTER REVIEW TASK FORCE WAS SET UP TO DO. IT WASN'T SET UP TO WHERE WHEN THERE ARE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, TO ALL OF A SUDDEN CONVENE THIS. WE HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT CONVENING THAT UNTIL WE HAD CHANGES THAT SOME MAY AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH. THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF CONVENING THIS. IF IT WEREN'T IN THE TITLE I WOULD VOTE FOR THIS. BUT IN THE TITLE IT SAYS LET'S DEAL WITH THESE THINGS. WE'RE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS FOR REVIEWING THESE CHARTER CHANGES AND IT'S A PRETTY EXTENSIVE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE SPECIFIC CHARTER CHANGES AND THEN PROPOING THEM BEFORE THE VOTERS. THAT'S WHY I OPPOSE IT. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IN SECTION ONE PART D IT DOES STATE IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE CURRENT AMENDMENT. AM I CORRECT? IT GOES BEYOND, CORRECT? TO YOUR POINT, IT GOES BEYOND JUST THAT. I SPECIFICALLY BRING THAT UP BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF MY OPINION ON THESE AMENDMENTS OR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPOKEN, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED TO MAKE REGULAR CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, BUT MAYBE NOT REGULAR, BUT THE CONSTITUTION CAN BE CHANGED BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER AND THAT PROCESS SHOULD EXIST. HOWEVER I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HANOVER TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS IF BY CHANCE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN AMENDMENT. MOST OF WHAT WE DO HERE GOES THROUGH COMMITTEES. IT'S NOT A PERFECT SYSTEM EITHER. BY ANY MEANS. WHAT'S MORE FUNDAMENTAL THAN OUR CITY CHARTER? IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SEVEN FOOT FENCES FIVE TIMES, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE REALISTIC OUR CITY CHARTER SHOULD AT LEAST BE DISCUSSED TO THAT LEVEL. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK JUST ECHOING COUNCILOR BACA. I THINK MY ORIGINAL INTENT IS NOT TO MAKE THIS A PLOY FOR THESE PROPOSITION. I THINK IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION. I WOULD BE WILLING TO AMEND THIS TO SAY JUST THAT. THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE CHARTER CHANGES IN A MORE THOUGHTFUL LENGTH OF TIME. I THINK -- I'M NOT ECHOING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT USURPING THE SYSTEM BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THE RULES OF COUNCIL BUT FOR ME I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE CHANGES TO THE CHARTER IN A LONGER PROCESS THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. I WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT SOME AMENDMENTS -- REMOVE THE PROPOSED REVISIONS FROM THE TITLE, IF THAT'S THE STICKING POINT. BECAUSE REALLY THE POINT FOR ME, HERE, PUTTING MY NAME ON THIS IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A REVIEW OF OUR CHARTER IN GENERAL. PERIODICALLY IS BETTER THAN EVERY EIGHT YEARS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: I WOULD SUPPORT CONVENING A CHARTER REVIEW TASK FORCE. I SUPPORT THAT ACCORD TO OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND I THINK IF YOU CHANGE THE TITLE YOU HAVE TO DEFER IT ANYWAY. SO I RECOMMEND A DEFERRAL ON THIS UNTIL NEXT TIME. IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A CHALLENGE -- CHANGE TO THE TITLE AND MAKE IT A TITLE THAT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE THE TASK FORCE AND DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER WE NEED TO DO GET TO. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I SAID SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: MR. PRESIDENT, ARE WE NOT ABLE TO AMEND THIS HERE NOW? THIS IS NOT A PROPOSITION IT'S A RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS TO IT TONIGHT, BUT FINAL ACTION WOULD BE TO TAKE PLACE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT'S BECAUSE OF A TITLE CHANGE? THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DISCUSS THOSE AMENDMENT AND MAKE THEM TONIGHT, IF YOU LIKE. OTHERWISE IF YOU WANT TO DEFER IT AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOU WANT TO AMEND IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WANT TO MOVE TO STEP -- >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE A DEFERRAL ON THE TABLE. IT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I CAN'T MAKE A MOTION AFTER THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL CHECK THE RULES ON IT. I THINK WE HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THAT FIRST. I COULD WITHDRAW THAT. WITHDRAW THE DEFERRAL. IF YOU LIKE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS, I'M OKAY WITH IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'LL MOVE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL MOVE WITHDRAW THE DETERAL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THAT. I MOVE AMENDMENT ON PAGE ONE LINE THREE TO STOP THE TITLE AFTER THE WORD ALBUQUERQUE. AND ON PAGE TWO DELETE SECTION C. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. IS THERE A SECOND? HAVEN'T HEARD A SECOND. OKAY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION. DO WE WANT TO STRIKE ALL OF C OR JUST SAYING FROM THE PART WHERE IT SAYS THE CHARGE INCLUDES BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO 11 THROUGH 14? I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO REMOVE THE CHARGE OF THIS TASK FORCE SHALL BE TO EXAMINE THE CHARTER FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECOMMENDING AMENDMENTS. WE WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT LIMITED TO EXAMINATION OF THE FOLLOING SPECIFICALLY ONE THROUGH FOUR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: POINT OF ORDER DO WE NEED TO HAVE A SECOND TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHANGE? >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I THINK THERE WAS A POINT OF ORDER. WE HAD A POINT OF ORDER. WERE YOU ASKING TO CLARIFY. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DISCUSSION EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO SECOND. OKAY, SO WE -- >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I CAN RESPOND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU WHERE MR. PRESIDENT. I BELIEVE THAT THE POINT OF THE CHARTER REVIEW TASK TAS FORCE IS DELINEATED. I MOVE WHAT I LAID FORWARD. BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT MOTION IS MADE. IS THERE A SNEKD BRNG. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILORS. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING THAT. HONESTLY I WASN'T COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THAT. I THINK THIS PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DEFERRED TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THOSE CHANGES WOULD BE. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT ACTUALLY CONVENES THE TASK FORCE IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD DO THAT IF WE WEREN'T DEALING WITH SOME SPECIFIC CHARTER CHANGES THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY BE DOING WITHOUT CONVENING THE TASK FORCE. I WOULD LIKE TIME TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT AND SPEND SOME TIME ON IT. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. THAT WE COME BACK WITH SOME CHANGES TO THE TITLE, SOME CHANGES TO THE BILL THAT REFLECTS THAT. BACK TO THE SPONSORS. WHAT DO YOU ALL WISH? >>COUN. ROGERS: MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOW THAT WE CHANGED THE TITLE IT NEEDS TO BE DEFERRED. I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL TO JUNE 17th. DISCUSSION OR QUESTION ON THE DEFERRAL? MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON ITEM L. COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR GROUT, BY REQUEST. O-22. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AMENDING ROA CHAPTER 14 ARTICLE EIGHT PART FOUR OF THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. BACK TO COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE. WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER BUILDS OR IMPROVES THE PROPERTY THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY INCREASES AND THEY PAY HIGHER TAXES. THIS BILL WILL CAPTURE THAT INCREMENT AND PUT IT DIRECTLY BACK INTO THE MRA. THEN THE MRA CAN REINVEST THAT MONEY IN HELPING OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS DEVELOP. WHERE THIS BILL THE -- WITH THIS BILL THE OLD SAYING THAT THE RISING TIED LIFTS ALL THE BOATS WILL BE TRUE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. BRUNER. THANK YOU. FOR BEING HERE AT 11:30. WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THERE ARE MANY. IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ON BOTH GROSS RECEIPTS AND PROPERTY TAXES FROM CITY, COUNTY, AND STATE GROSS RECEIPTS AND COUNTY AND CITY PROPERTY TAXES. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BET ON THE DISTRICT. YOU'RE BETTING THAT YOU MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THAT AREA AND SEE RETURNS ON GROWTH OVER TIME. THE MORE INVESTMENTS YOU MAKE THE LARGER THE POT OF TAX REVENUE THAT COMES IN AND YOU'RE ABLE TO REINVEST EVEN MORE AND IN THIS CASE OVER A 20-YEARED PERIOD OF TIME. IT REALLY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT WE MAKE IN PRIVATE PROJECTS, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND PUBLIC PROJECTS. YOU ALL KNOW THAT MRA WAS BUDGETED $1.2 MILLION IN FUNDS FOR OUR ORGANIZATION. THE ESTIMATES, FOR INSTANCE, ON EAST CENTRAL OVER 20 YEARS ARE MORE THAN $100 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE THE DRAMATIC INCREASE OVER WHAT WE NORMALLY DO. WE BUILD A LOT OF HOUSING WITH THOSE FUNDS. ALSO A LOT OF COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL OPERATIONS AND ALSO MAKE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. BACK ON THE BILL. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS O-22. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM M IS R-46. ANOTHER BILL SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR BACA AND COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-46 CONFIRMING THE AUTHORITY OF THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ABILITY TO PURCHASE TAX INCREMENT FINANCES AS COMPANION O-44-22. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ADMINISTRATION WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK MR. BRUNER CAN SPEAK TO THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAD A QUESTION DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS, WE SAW CLEALY AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WITHOUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS YET WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT THIS BILL. I'M WONDERING HOW WE'RE GOING TO STAFF THIS WORK. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE INTEND TO STAFF THIS IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO -- ONE ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION TO GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO START PURSUING THIS BY THE NEW STATE LAW. YOU WILL SEE I THINK IN THE FALL SOME PROPOSALS FOR THE DISTRICTS IN THREE OR MORE AREAS AND WE DO THAT ANALYSIS WITHOUT -- WITH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACT. THEY WILL DO THE ECONOMIC ANALYSIS. AFTER THAT, IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF THE LEGISLATIVE AND COMBOLD GOLDENROD PROCESSES. THOSE DISTRICTS WON'T COME INTO PLAY AS FAR AS ADMINISTRAING THE REVENUES FROM THOSE AREAS FOR AT LEAST A YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF. I THINK WE'LL HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO STAFF UP FOR THAT IMPLEMENTATION OF DISTRICT. I WANT TO NOTE THAT PER STATE STATUTE WE CAN TAKE 3% OF ANY REVENUE THAT COMES IN AND APPLY IT ADMINISTRATIVELY FOR ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. VERY NICE TO HEAR. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU MENTIONED THREE AREAS. WHAT ARE THOSE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE DON'T KNOW JUST YET. WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW THAT WE'RE -- WE THOUGHT HAD POTENTIAL. WE'VE BEEN DOING STUDIES ON FIVE OR SIX. WE DEVELOPED A CRITERIA FOR SOME OF THE DISTRICTS -- I MEAN FOR ALL OF THE DISTRICTS, LOOKING FOR ONES ON THE CUSP OF GROWING. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOUR TIP DISTRICTS ARE NOT JUST STATIC. THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME POTENTIAL. THERE'S A RECENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR ANTICIPATED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SOMETHING OR SOME LEVEL OF ACTIVITY IS GOING TO HAPPEN OR DOES HAPPEN THAT INDICATES OVER THE COURSE OF 20 YEARS YOU'LL SEE AN INCREASE OF REVENUE. IF YOU DESIGNATE A TIP DISTRICT THAT SIMPLY STAYING AT THE SAME REVENUE LEVEL THROUGHOUT THE 20 YEARS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PRODUCTION ON THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. GIVEN YOUR EXPLANATION, WOULD THAT LEAVE OUT MY DISTRICT? CERTAIN PARTS OF MY DISTRICT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE WOULD LOOK AT EAST CENTRAL AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT BOUNDARIES JUST YET. THAT SEEMS TO BE AN AREA THAT IS SEEING MORE INVESTMENT. AS WELL AS MAYBE THE SAN MATEO AREA. WHICH IS THE NEAR HEIGHTS MRA. THERE'S POTENTIAL THERE. WE'VE LOOKED AT UNIVERSITY IN THE PAST. WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON CENTRAL AVENUE FROM GIRARD TO THE UNIVERSITY TO REALLY JUSTIFY IT JUST YET. THAT COULD CHANGE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES ALONG. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THAT CRITERIA AVAILABLE TO REVIEW? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN SEND THAT. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? CLOSED DISCUSSION. BACK TO COUNCILOR BACA AND COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: MR. PRESIDENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM N IS R-41. COUNCILOR GROUT OR COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. IT'S DIRECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS TO DEVELOP A PILOT AND A BUDGET FOR A PROGRAM TO PROVIDE DAY LABOR FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENING HOMELESSNESS FOR FICKLE -- FISCAL YEAR 2025. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? BACK TO THE SPONSORS. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THIS BILL? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS WAS ACTUALLY PART OF JOB CONNECT A CORE PILLAR. AND THE ADMINISTRATION FAILED TO GOFORE BOARD AND IMPLEMENT THIS. I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I SAID IT BEFORE, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. SOME PEOPLE AREN'T READY FOR FULL-TIME JOBS. THEY MIGHT BE READY FOR A DAY OR TWO IN A WEEK. THAT MIGHT BE THE BOOST THEY NEED TO GET TO THE NEXT STEP OF A PART-TIME JOB THAT CAN LEAD TO FULL-TIME JOB. IT GIVES THEM A HAND UP AND ALSO GIVES THEM A SENSE OF PRIDE THAT THEY'RE WORKING. I THINK THERE ARE SOME -- I KNOW THERE ARE BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD USE EXTRA HELP. AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS IN OUR OWN CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN USE SOME HELP. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS BEING PRODUCTIVE AND HELPING IN OUR COMMUNITY. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: R-41. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON ITEM O. COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. R-24-42 IS DIRECTING THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP AN ANTI- HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAINING AND OUTREACH PROGRAM FOR THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY EMPLOYEES. CREAING AN ANTI- HUMAN TRAFFICKING PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND REQUIING ANTI- HUMAN TRAFFICKING SIGNS AT MAJOR TRANSPORTATION HUB. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY DISCUSSION? THERE BEING NONE. SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP TRAINING AND BEGIN TEACHING CITY EMPLOYEES TO RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND HOW TO RESPOND. IT DIRECTS THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN TO INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT THE REALITIES OF HUMAN TRAFFICKINGS. AND IT DIRECTS IT THE AVIATION AND TRANSIT DEPARTMENT TO PLACE TRAFFICKING AWARENESS SIGNS IN AIRPORT, BUS, AND STATIONS. ON FRIDAY I TOOK A RIDE ALONG, AND I CAN'T UNSEE WHAT I SAW THE OTHER NIGHT. IT WAS NOT GOOD. 86% OF THE PEOPLE ON -- 86% OF THE PEOPLE TRAFFICKED ARE OUT THERE -- THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRAFFICKED. AND THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING. WE NEED TO BE MORE AWARE. I SAW THESE PEOPLE AND I'M LIKE NOW WHAT DO I DO. I NEED TO DO WHAT I SHOULD LOOK INTO TO HELP THESE PEOPLE. IT'S CRAZY JUST THAT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I WAS OUT THERE AND WHAT I LEARNED AND NOW I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT. I THINK THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP. WE HAVE A LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES OUT AND ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN PLACES WHERE THEY MIGHT BE MORE LIKELY TO SEE THIS. AND IF SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP OR THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASK FOR HELP, WE CAN LET THE -- LET THEM KNOW WE'RE THERE. WE WANT THESE PEOPLE TO KNOW WE CARE AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM. AND WE WANT TO LET THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS TO THESE FOLKS TO KNOW THEY'RE ON NOTICE. WE AREN'T GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS ANYMORE. AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM. WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: FLOOR AMENDMENT FOR THIS. NUMBER ONE. ON PAGE FOUR LINE 12 ADD THE FOLLOWING. SECTION FOUR, THE FOLLOWING APPROPRIATIONS ARE MADE FROM THE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE PROGRAM FOR FY2025. GENERAL FUND 110. CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT PERSONAL SERVICES FOR $30,000 AND THE GENERAL FUND 110 COUNCIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT COUNSEL SERVICES FOR $20,000. THE SECOND PART IS ON PAGE FOUR LINE 12 CHANGE SECTION FOUR TO SECTION FIVE. AND THE EXPLANATION OF THIS AMENDMENT ADD THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE TO FUND THE MANDATES IN THE BILL. 20,000 IS APPROPRIATED FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO CREATE AN EMPLOYEE TRAINING PROGRAM AND $20,000 -- THAT'S INCORRECT. THEY BOTH SAY 20,000. $30,000 ON THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND $20,000 ON THE COUNCIL SERVICE DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I SUPPORT THE BILL, I SUPPORT THE INTENTION. WHERE ARE WE AT WITH CONTINUING TO PULL MONEY FROM GENERAL FUND BALANCE? I BELIEVE DURING THE BUDGET TALK WE ALL MADE A BIG COMMENTARY ABOUT HOW WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP PULLING FROM THERE AND NOW WE'RE PULLING FROM THERE. MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CFO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I WAS WAITING FOR A QUESTION. IT'S LATE. WE'RE TIRED. $30,000 IS NOT GOING TO BREAK THE BANK. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN. AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT FUND BALANCE FOR A SMALL AMOUNT LIKE THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD WHERE WE ACTUALLY STOP SAYING WE HAVE ENOUGH OF THE LITTLE TINY INCREMENTS. ARE YOU GOING TO TELL US WHEN THAT HAPPENS? I'M CONCERNED -- TO ME IN A $1.4 BILLION BUDGET $20,000 IS NOTHING. BUT IF WE KEEP PLUCKING AWAY AT IT THROUGH FY25. WE COULD ARGUE THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE WE COULD ARGUE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PULLING FROM THAT ADD UP TO A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT. WHO IS GOING TO TELL US WHEN ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF BEING ABLE TO PULL FROM THERE. I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO PULL FROM AND I NEED $100,000. I MEAN THAT IN ALL SINCERITY. WHO CAN TELL US WHEN WE CAN DO THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE CAN KEEP A RUNNING TAB AND WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT TO PULL FROM OVER THE NEXT YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I REALLY RECOMMEND THAT I THOUGHT WE WOULD KEEP A RUNNING TAB OF THAT ACTUALLY. IF WE'RE NOT, YES, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR STAFF WILL ALSO KEEP A RUNNING TAB OF THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT DOESN'T CATCH US AFTER THE FACT THAT SO WE GO OVER BUDGET ON SOMETHING WE ALL THOUGHT WAS ACCESSIBLE TO US TO BE ABLE TO FUND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ARE NOT PREVIOUSLY BUDGET. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT. SAME QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR THE STAFF. I DON'T THINK OUR BUDGET STAFF IS HERE. WHAT IS THE FUND BALANCE CURRENTLY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR PEÑA, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AT THE MOMENT I COULD NOT TELL YOU. I HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, DOES OUR STAFF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE FUND BALANCE WAS? I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO LEAVE -- I THINK WE LEFT $1.1 MILLION. AND WITH SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS WE TOOK OUT I THINK IT LEFT IT AT $900,000 WHICH WAS NOT REALLY -- IN TERMS OF LENDING AND WHAT OUR CREDIT RATING LOOKS LIKE THAT AMOUNT GOING UNDER THE MILLION STARTS TO WORRY ME. IT WORRIED ME AS A RESULT OF THE BUDGET PROCESS WITH SOME AMENDMENTS. NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN HAVE A RUNNING TOTAL OF LOOKING AT THE FUND BAL INSTANCE -- BALANCE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WHEN THIS AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED BUDGET STAFF SAID THERE WAS AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUND BALANCE. >>COUN. PEÑA: CURRENTLY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA YES. THAT WAS WHAT WAS SAID WHEN THIS AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED. EARIER TODAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE DISCUSSING THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BACK TO THE SPONSORS. YOU GOOD? >> WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. >> COUNCILAL ? >> AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ADMINISTRATION HAVE A COMMENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANTED TO ASK POINT OF CLARIFICATION TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WITH THIS AMENDMENT THE ALLOCATION FOR CITY COUNCIL STAFF MEANS THAT THE PORTIONS WITHIN THIS RESOLUTION THAT IDENTIFY THE CITY CREAING A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN THAT ALL OF THOSE PORTION OF THE AMENDMENT IS ASSIGNED TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF NOT TO ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: ON THE AMENDMENT OR THE ACTUAL BILL? >> I'M SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I JUST WANT TO ENSURE WHAT IS ARTICULATED IN AMENDMENT ALLOCATES FUNDING TO COUNCIL STAFF FOR THIS RESOLUTION. I ASSUME THAT IS ASSIGNED FUNDING TO THE RESPONSIBILITIES WITHIN THE RESOLUTION. I JUST WANTED THE CLAR TEATY -- CLARITY TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND NOT TO THE ADMINISTRATION. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN. AND THAT ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEPARTMENTS IN CHARGE OF THE TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND THE OTHER LOCATIONS FOR THE REQUIREMENT OF SIGNS ABSORB THAT THROUGH OPERATING. AS FAR AS THE SIGNAGE GOES FOR THE -- LIKE THE INFORMATIONAL SIGNS THAT WOULD BE POSTED AT THE AIRPORT OR TRANSPORTATIONAL HUBS WOULD BE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS. BUT THIS AMENDMENT DOES -- IS CITY COUNCIL STAFF THE FUNDS TO DO THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND HR TO DO THE CITY TRAINING FOR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SHE EXPLAINED IT BETTER THAN I COULD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. R-42 AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: PASSES UNANIMOUSLY . >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 12:30. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND WE DO 12:15. IT'S SECONDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON R-52. SPONSORS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS R-52 APPROVING INTERGOVERNMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE COUNTY OF BERNALILLO AND ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. BOARD OF EDUCATION TO REFORM THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION AS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COORDINAING COMMISSION TO INCLUDE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, COUNTY OF BERNALILLO, AND ADDING ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS A VOTING MEMBER OF THE BODY. AND THIS IS DIRECT REFLECTION OF OUR BODY FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE WANTS TO ADD APS AS A VOTING BODY. AND THIS IS DOING -- EACH ENTITY IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE BODY TO VOTE ON IT. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. -- >>COUN. BASSAN: THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANT TO PASS IT. THE TIME I MOVED IT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND IT FAILED BECAUSE THE COUNTY DID NOT WANT TO MIRROR IT. HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME? THE INTENTION IS WE WANTED APS TO VOTE ON THIS COMMITTEE BUT APS WASN'T REALLY INTERESTED IN VOTING WHEN COUNCILOR PEÑA TRIED AND WHEN I TRIED. COUNCILOR PEÑA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, HOW IS IT DIFFERENT THIS TIME? >>COUN. ROGERS: I DEFER TO MY SENIOR COUNCILOR, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE. I KNOW NOW ALL THE PARTIES ARE INTERESTED AND TAKING THIS EXACT DRAFT TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL BODIES BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS AWARE OF THAT HISTORY. THE COUNTY AND APS HAD THEIR ATTORNEYS REVIEW THIS. EVERYBODY HAS MIRRORED RESOLUTIONS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD. I DO BELIEVE THAT NOW IS THE TIME WE CAN ACTUALLY INCLUDE APS AS A VOTING MEMBER WHICH I THINK IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY AND WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT. AGAIN, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ALL THREE PARTIES ARE MOVING FORWARD IN THE EXACT MIRRORED LANGUAGE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? BACK TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IF I CAN JUST ADD, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORTED IT. I PUT THIS FORWARD AS COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID SHE PUT IT FORWARD AT A DIFFERENT TIME. IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY I REMEMBER -- IT WAS A PREVIOUS COUNCILOR, BUT IT WAS A PREVIOUS COUNCILOR WHO ACTUALLY MADE THE COMMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FAIR FOR APS TO BE IN WHEN THEY WOULD BE A BENEFICIARY OF SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE GIVE OUT. THIS DIDN'T MATTER TO ME THEN, IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME NOW. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, I WOULD ADD THAT TO THE HISTORY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. THAT DID COME UP DURING THE MEETING. THE CONSENSUS IS IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM THE COUNTY FUNDING THE CITY AND THE CITY FUNDING THE COUNTY AND BOTH FUND APS. I THINK IN THIS CURRENT BODY DIDN'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: R-52. DISCUSSION IS CLOSED. THE SPONSOR CLOSED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM Q IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR LEWIS. R-57. I BELIEVE WE HAVE -- COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THE BILL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ALLOWING THE BERNALILLO COUNTY IMPROVEMENT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND THAT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE AMENDMENTS, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE ON PAGE TWO LINE 13 AFTER PROGRAM ADD AS ADOPTED IN ORDINANCE 2024-13 BY THE BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMISSION ON MAY 28, 2024. JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THIS AND HAVE THE SPECIFIC REFERENCE SINCE THEY DID DO THEIR APPROVAL AT THE LAST MEETING. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS SECONDED THE FLOOR AMENDMENT AS WELL. LET'S DISCUSS THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. OKAY. WE'LL DO FLOOR AMENDMENT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS. MAYBE -- WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER. LET'S GO TO THE SPEAKER. WE'LL HAVE THE STAFF GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO HAVE PRIVATE FINANING AND ALLOWS THEM TO DO GREAT WORK ON THEIR HOMES AND DO REAL INNOVATIONS AND SOLAR AND REALLY GOOD THINGS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND CERTAINLY PROUD TO SPONSOR THIS WITH COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE IDEA OF THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER IS A GREAT THING. WE'LL GO TO OUR SPEAKER AND THEN OUR STAFF. >> THANK YOU. AMY IS OUR SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR CONSULTING. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE. WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED AS THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE NEW MEXICO C-PACE FRAM BY -- PROGRAM BY THE NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS RESOLUTION SO THE BERNALILLO COUNTY IMPROVEMENT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PROGRAM CAN OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE C-PACE PROGRAM IS A FINANCING STRUCTURE ENABLED BY STATE STATUTE AND LOCKAL LEGISLATION THAT PROVIDES ELIGIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH ACCESS TO LONG-TERM FINANING FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND RESILIENCY IMPROVEMENT. THE PROGRAM ALLOWS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SECURE THE FINANING VIA A SPECIAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT ON THE IMPROVED PROPERTY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO PUBLIC FUNDS ARE AT RISK OR INVOLVED. BY PASSING THIS RESOLUTION AND OPTING INTO THE PROGRAM ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FINANING MECHANISM AND IT WILL SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ENERGY SAVINGS, CONSERATION AND ENHANCED RESILIENCY IN OUR CITY. WE ARE ALREADY AWARE OF FOUR PROJECTS INTERESTED IN UTILIZING THE C-PACE FINANING IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND WITH THAT, I WILL STOP AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. I THINK THE SPEAKER DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING THE LEGISLATION. COUNCILORS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? WE'LL DO THAT NOW. IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE FIRST-EVER COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN COUNCILOR LEWIS BILL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM R IS COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR GROUT. R-59. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, R59 IS ADOPTING THE FEDERAL PROJECTS PRIORITY LIST, RESCINDING THE LIST ATTACHED TO RESOLUTION 24-2. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. SPEAK SNRZ SPEAKERS? NO. BACK TO THE COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: I MOVE AMENDMENT ONE. REPLACED WITH NOW ATTACHMENT. I MOVE A DO PASS. AND MR. PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED FOR DO PASS. BACK ON THE BILL. ACTUALLY, DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS AMENDMENT MAKES THE MOTION TO ADD TO THE ATTACHMENT FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL DIRECT SPENDING REQUEST THAT WERE FORWARDED FOR FUNDING TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE BY SENAOR HEINRICH. ONE IS FOR HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HOUSING REHABILITATION GRANT AND ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. AND GRANT REQUEST FOR THE ARROYO PROJECT. ITS IN THE FEDERAL GRANT REQUEST AND SHOULD BE LISTED AS CVS REQUEST. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? MOVED AND SECONDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO THE BILL AS AMENDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BACK TO THE SPONSORS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: R-59 AS AMENDED. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE BEING NO OTHER BUSINESS THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.