COMING UP NEXT ... TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. COMING UP NEXT ... TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >> HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY MARTIN SHELBY FOR A FEW COMMENTS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CLERK. GOOD MORNING, MEMBER OF COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY 6th OF 2021 AND HERE AT OLD CITY HALL AT 350 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD. AND THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD DURING THE CONTINUING STATE OF EMERGENCY CAUSED BY THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC BEING CONDUCTED AS YOU HEARD WITH A LIVE IN PERSON QUORUM OF THE CITY COUNCIL PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. HOWEVER, IN RESPONSE TO T COVID-19 PANDEMIC, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ENCOURAGED TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCING REFERRED TO BY FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULES A COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT. THESE MEETINGS ARE BEING HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EMERGENCY RULES OF PROCEDURE AS ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION 2020-225 AND AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020-490 AND 2021-241. THE PUBLIC AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE ABLE TO WATCH, LISTEN AND VIEW THIS MEETING ON SPECTRUM CHANNEL 640, FRONTIER CHANNEL 15, AND LIVESTREAM OTHER INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM. NOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY BY ALTERNATIVE METHODS INCLUDING SENDING WRITTEN COMMENTS BY INTERNET OR WEB, BY E-MAIL, BY U.S. MAIL, AND ALSO SPEAKING REMOTELY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE USE OF CMT, AND THAT REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION. ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE INSTRUCTIONS AT TAMPA.GOV/CITY COUNCIL, ONE WORD. ALSO, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE USING CMT, WHICH IS AVAILABLE AT OLD CITY HALL. THEY HAVE THAT OPTION. AND THAT IS MADE AVAILABLE DURING THE MEETING ON THE 2nd FLOOR OF OLD CITY HALL AT 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND PLEASE NOTE THAT USE OF MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING INSIDE THE BUILDING ARE ENCOURAGED. NOW, TO PARTICIPANT REMOTELY IN LAND USE HEARINGS, AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE HEARINGS, THERE ARE SECOND READINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, PREREGISTRATION HAS BEEN REQUIRED AND AGAIN THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, AS I SAID, ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE. OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN COME IN IN PERSON AND PARTICIPANT ON THE SECOND FLOOR DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO A PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HEARD WHEN IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA, AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED TIMELY BY MAIL, E-MAIL, WEB, OR VIA CMT WILL BE AFFORDED EQUAL CONSERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE IN PERSON. ONE FINAL COMMENT, PLEASE, TO THE PUBLIC. IF YOU ARE PARTICIPATING THROUGH THE GO-TO MEETING PLATFORM, PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT THE CHAT FUNCTION IS NOT TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CLERK. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, HONORABLE COUNCIL. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. WE WILL NOW CONDUCT THE ELECTION FOR CHAIRMAN AND CHAIRMAN PRO TEM FOR THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. HERE ARE THE ELECTION GUIDELINES. THE ELECTION OF THE CHAIRMAN WILL BE HELD FIRST. NOMINATIONS DO NOT REQUIRE A SECOND. PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BEFORE NOMINATING A CANDIDATE. I WILL OPEN THE NOMINATIONS AND CLOSE THEM AFTER ALL NOMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. VOTES WILL BE COUNTED BY RAISING THE HAND. THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN IN THE ORDER OF THE NOMINATION BEGINNG WITH THE FIRST NAMED NOMINATED. THE VOTE WILL CEASE AS SOON AS THERE IS A MAJORITY, WHICH REQUIRES FOUR VOTES. HAVING SAID THAT, NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN. >> I NOMINATE ORLANDO GUDES AS CHAIR OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. GUDES HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? ALL IN FAV -- WE WILL CLOSE IT ON MR. GUDES. ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. GUDES, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, I'M SORRY, MARTIN SHELBY SPEAKING TO YOU FROM BEHIND YOUR BACK. I APOLOGIZE. IF YOU WISH FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS A ROLL CALL VOTE, I WOULD APPRECIATE, THIS BEING THE CIRCUMSTANCES DURING THE PANDEMIC IF YOU DON'T MIND. AND THEN YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THE VOTE PLEASE. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: OKAY. >>LUIS VIERA: >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES, AGAIN, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING THESE MEETINGS THE PAST FEW YEARS, GOING ON MY THIRD YEAR. I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING YOU AND THE LADIES HAVE DONE IN YOUR OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS HONOR. I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS. BEING CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN GUILTY TO BE HONEST WITH Y, BUT I'M GLAD MY COLLEAGUES -- TRY TO KEEP THE MOMENTUM GOING. MR. MANISCALCO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB THIS PAST YEAR DURING THE COVID. HE SHOWED GREAT LEADERSHIP FOR THIS COUNCIL. I WANT TO MAKE% SURE WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND HAVE A COHESIVE GROUP WITH THIS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THE ADMINISTRATION. SO THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CHAIRMAN PRO TEM. IS THERE A NOMINATION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? MR. CITRO HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? OKAY. WE WILL CLOSE IT ON MR. DINGFELDER AND MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR OF MR. DINGFELDER -- OH, ROLL CALL. >>THE CLERK: FOR DINGFELDER, VIERA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES >>BI CA. >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE VOTE, YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >> YES. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. DINGFELDER WORKS YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I AM HUMBLED BY YOUR VOTE. I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH. I WILL BE THERE WITH CHAIRMAN GUDES' BACKUP WHENEVER HE NEEDS ME, AND AGAIN IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVEUR COMMUNITY AND SERVE WITH YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GREAT. THANK YOU. NOMINATIONS ARE NOW IN ORDER FOR CRA CHAIR. THE ELECTION GUIDELINES REMAIN THE SAME. IS THERE A NOMINATION? >> JOSEPH. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. CITRO HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? YES SIR? >> I NOMINATE ORLANDO GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO DECLINE THAT NOMINATION. I BELIEVE EVERYONE NEEDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RUN FOR THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THAT BOARD. I FEEL THAT ALL THE CRAs FALL IN DISTRICT 35 SO IT DOESN'T MATTER, I STILL OWN DISTRICT 5 AND MAKE DECISIONS FOR DISTRICT 5 SO I AM HAPPY TO DECLINE THAT. AGAIN, THANK YOU MY FRIEND, MR. DINGFELDER, FOR NOMINATING ME, SIR. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PASE? OH, YOU HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? WE WILL CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON MR. CITRO AND MR. CARLSON. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL FOR MR. CITRO? >>THE CLERK: FOR CITRO, GUDES? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: [OFF MICROPHONE] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS FOR CITRO? NO. >>BILL CARLSON: SIN MY NAME IS ON IT, I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY NO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: TIE BREAKER SAYS RESPECTFULLY YESS. >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A 4-3 VOTE FOR CITRO. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. CITRO, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS? >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: ND NOW FOR THE VICE CHAIR OF THE CRA. IS THERE A NOMINATION? YES, MR. DINGFELDER? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: MR. CARLSON HAS BEEN NOMINATED. IS THERE ANOTHER NOMINATION? WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES.YES.- >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: RESPECTFULLY, YES. ALL MY VOTES ARE RESPECTFULLY TODAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>THE CLERK: A UNANIMOUS VOTE. >> LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CHAIR CITRO AND THE REST OF YOU ON THAT IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR. THANK YOU. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE. [ APPLAUSE ] I TURN THE MEETING OVER TO THE NEW CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF YOU DON'T MIND, GENTLEMEN, TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS FOR MR. SHELBY AND THE DEPUTY CLERK IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM TO KIND OF BRIEF OVER THE AGENDA. (CITY COUNCIL RECESS). >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. WE DON'T HAVE AN INVOCATION SO JUST A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE. (MOMENT OF SILENC) LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ] >> >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>BILL CARLSON: HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE. THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY CLERK. MOTION FOR THE MINUTES AND THE AGENDA? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE WE DO THAT, MAY I HAVE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE? MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF I COULD HAVE MR. MANISCALCO HERE. AND WRE IS LISA? >>ORLANDO GUDES: SHE'S BEHIND YOU SIR. COME ON DOWN, MS. LISA. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE THIS MORNING. I AM GOING TO MAKE AN OFF-AGENDA MOTION FOR COMMENDATON TO OUR FORMER CHAIRMAN, GUIDO MANISCALCO, AND I WILL LOOK FOR A SECOND RIGHT NOW. >>JOHN DINGFEDER: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MINDA.LDER, SECOND BY MR. ALL IN FAVOR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GUIDO, COME ON DOWN. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD, ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE RECOGNIZE OUR FELLOW COUNCILMEMBER, FORMER CHAIRMAN, GUIDO MANISCALCO FOR HIS EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION AND LEADERSHIP SERVING AS OUR CHAIRMAN DURING THE 20-21 TERM. WITH THE PANDEMIC TAKING CENTER STAGE DURING HIS TENURE GUIDO LEADERSHIP WAS ON DISPLAY FROM CITY COUNCIL'S MOVE TO THE CONVENON CENR AND BACK TO OLD CITY HALL WITH A MODIFIED PLAN, THIS YEAR WAS ANYTHING BUT NORMAL. CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY CONTINUALLY DISPLAYING HIS CALM DEMEANOR DURING THESE VERY STRESSFUL TIMES. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WHEN UNPRECEDENTED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HAD TO BE IMPLEMENTED, MOST AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE, GUIDO ALWAYS REMAINED COMPOSED AND BROUGHT HIS WIT AND SENSE OF HUMOR TO THE OCCASION. IT'S WITH GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION THAT WE MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENT OUR 20-21 CHAIRMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO WITH THIS COMMENDATION AND THANK HIM FOR A JOB WELL DONE. [ APPLAUSE ] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THIS IS COMPLETELY RANDOM. I APPRECIATE IT. FOR THE RECORD, GUIDO MANISCALCO, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT 6. >> ARE YOU A RESIDENT? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. CITY OF TAMPA. THIS IS TOTALLY -- UNNECESSARY, BUT I APPRECIATE IT, MYWN COMMENDATION BUT I WILL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO CONGRATULATE CHAIRMAN GUDES. I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN THIS NEW YEAR. I HOPE IT'S EASIER. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS LAST YEAR WITH EVERYTHING. BUT I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. BEST OF LUCK. I KNOW YOU SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY WELL. YOU ARE A FIRST ADVOCATE AND YOU STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND YOU ARE NOT SCARED TO STAND UP FOR THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. SO I APPRECIATE IT. MORE IMPORTANTLY, MY AIDE LISA, AND ANY OPPORNITY I GET HERE OR OUTSIDE, I AM ALWAYS PRAISING HER. YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN -- I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE WORDS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE LISA EDWARDS A COMMENDATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT IS WITH GREAT APPRECIATION FROM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WE HONOR YOU TODAY FOR YOUR OSTANNG SERVICE DURING THE 20-21 TERM AS LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO MYSELF AS CHAIR BUT TO THIS ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL DEPARTMENT SERVING AS THE AIDE, YOU HAVE NAVIGATED THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE UNIQUE AND CHALLENGING YEAR WITH A PROFESSIONAL AND APPROACHABLE MANNER, WITH PANDEMIC CONCERNS AT THE FOREFRONT, YOU ALWAYS RESPONDED QUICKLY TO LAST MINUTE ISSUES A AND ENCOUNTERS AND WHEN THE PUBLIC RETURNED IN PERSON AT COUNCIL MEETINGS YOU SKILLFULLY HANDLED THE GROUP IN SUCH A WAY THAT MADE THE PROCESS SMOOTH AND EFFICIENCY ALL WHILE REMAINING APPROACHABLE AND RESPONSIVE TO EVERYONE'S NEEDS. IT IS WITH GREAT GRATITUDE AND THANKS TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS YOU WITH THIS COMMENDAION FOR YOUR EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO ALL OF US AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA. [ APPLAUSE ] >> LISA EDWARDS: WOW, THIS IS VERY UNEXPECTED AS WELL. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO DURING THIS TIME AND ALSO ALL OF YOU COUNCILMEN AS WELL. I LEARNED A LOT THIS YEAR, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO OUR OFFICE OVER THIS TIME. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR. THANK GOD YOU DIDN'T USE THE ELEVATOR. YOU WOULD HAVE WORN IT OUT. BUT YOU DID A MARVELOUS JOB, AND JUST THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WERE TOTALLY NEW TO ALL OF US. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. LISA CONGRATULATIONS. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK ABOUT YOU. HINK YOU ARE A WONDERFUL LADY, AND JUST A REALLY GOD PERSON WITH A REALLY SWEETHEART, OBVIOUSLY. AND FOR FORMER CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, OBVIOUSLY A FINE GENTLEMAN WITH A VERY KIND HEART. YOU KNOW THAT I THINK HERE, CHARLIE AND I HAVE BEEN CHAIR, OBVIOUSLY GUDES AND OTHERS, WILL BE CHAIRING IN THE FUTURE, I'M SURE. IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING A MEETING AND EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT YOU, AND YOU NEED TO SOMETIMES HAVE THOSE UNCOMFORTABLE MOMENTS THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAV AND THE HEAT IS TOTALLY ON YOU, AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, SO OBVIOUSLY WE ABSOLUTE YOU FOR THAT. AND SOMETIMES FOR GUYS ACTUALLY LIKE YOU AND ME, BEING CHAIR IS A LITTLE BIT HARD. NOW WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE NICE GUYS, RIGHT? WE ARE MR. ROGERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING? SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE REALLY HARD BUT YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, AND I WON IT ON PRINCIPAL TO UNANIMOUS NIGHT YOU AND I WANT YOU TO BE CHAIR BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO A GOOD JOB. FUILLED THE ROLE WELL SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF BOTH OF YOU ALL WITH YOUR COMMENDATIONS WITH ALL THESE SNEEZE GUARDS AROUND HERE SO WE CAN DO THAT A LITTLE LATER OBJECT. SECOND OF ALL, GUIDO, I AM GOING TO CALL YOU GUIDO, NOT MR. CHAIR. WHEN YOU FIRST TOOK ON THIS ROLE, I LOOKED AT YOU AND I SAID, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? AND YOU SAID THE BEST WORDS EVER, THIS IS GOING TO BE HISTORY. WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING HISTORY IN THE PREDICAMENT WE ARE IN. I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO M. LISA, YOU HAVE DONE THE BEST JOB IN MAKING HISTORY. I THANK YOU BOTH. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU, GUIDO, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP OVER THE LAST YEAR DURING THESE VERY DIFFICULT TIMES, AND FOR ALWAYS BEING FAIR AND MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC WAS LISTENED TO. @I COULD GO ON AND . BUT LISA, LEGISLATIVE AIDES ARE REALLY STRESSED OUT IN THIS ROLE, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM. BUT YOU REALLY STEPPED UP DURING TWO DIFFICULT TIMES. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE COVID SITUATION WHICH YOU RAN UP AND DOWNSTAIRS, YOU HAD TO SET UP ALL THE FACILITIES AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, ALSO WITH THE EVENTS OF LAST SUMMER WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED THEIR OPINIONS TO BE EXPRESSED, AND ALSO WE HAVE THAT HERE, AND I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THE COVID AND ALSO MAKING SURE PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I KNOW THIS ROLE IS NEW IN YOUR CAREER AND YOU HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS SIR? I NOW WORK CLOSELY WITH THE CHAIR AND LEGISLATIVE AIDE ALL THE TIME. SO I KNOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOMETHING SO I WILL GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MORE I CAN ADD. IT'S JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND EVERYBODY HAS SPOKEN QUITE ELOQUENTLY AS TO THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE BEEN FACED BE, AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LISA WORKED WITH IN THE ADMINISTRATION, TOGETHER COOPERATIVELY, AS A TEAM TO MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN. A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENE DID A LOT OF WORK IN UNPRECEDENTED TIMES TO BE ABLE TM ON THEIR BEHALF. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY VERY MUCH ALWAYS, IT IS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY COUNCIL, AND PARTICULARLY THE CHAIR, AND PARTICULARLY THIS YEAR. AGAIN, MY SINCERE THANKS TO LISA EDWARD. SHE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB, AND SHE DESERVES ALL THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND CREDIT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GUIDO, MS. EDWARDS, I AM SURE YOU ARE GOING TO -- YOUR AIDE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB LIKE YOU HAVE, SO I AM GOING TO DO IT IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE AND THEN YOU CAN DO IT IN ITALIAN AND WE'LL HAVE IN THE THREE LANGUAGES. (SPEAKING SPANISH) >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT WAS BUT -- >> I WILL TRANSLATE IT REAL QUICK. GUIDO, YOU ARE MY FAVORITE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BESIDES MYSELF, AND BESIDES CHARLIE MIRANDA, GUIDO MANISCALCO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THAT WHAT I SAID? >>ORLANDOUDES NO. I WILL TRANSLATE FOR YOU LATER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LISA, ALWAYS SMILING. ALWAYS SMILING. TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. GUIDO, YOU HAVE HAD A HELL OF A YEAR, KEPT US TOGETHER. WE ARE MOST APPRECIATIVE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BOTH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ] WE WILL GO WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. I KNOW WE HAVE A WALK-ON FOR OUR YOUTH. THEN WE HAVE A CONTINUATION, NUMBER , MR. CARLSON IS REQUESTING. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE ALSO SHOULD RECEIVE AND FILE NUMBER 76. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 76. >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT HAD TO DO WITH QRGTI, THAT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND INCENTIVE PROGRAM BY THE STATE. INSTEAD OF PULLING THEM, I ASKED ROB ROSNER IF COULD YOU QUICKLY MAKE A FEW STATEMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO CONSENT AGENDA SO HE CAN JUST ELAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE APPROVING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHICH ITEM WAS THAT SIR? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY DON'T WE HONOR THEM -- EXCUSE ME. >> WE CAN DO THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S 31 AND 32. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE CONTUANCAS F AS ROUTINE, BUT THIS HAS BEEN HANGING ON FOR AT LEAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS NOW, AND WE KICK THE CAN SO MUCH AND IT MAKES NO NOISE ANYMORE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT TO AN END SOMEHOW. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION OR FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING REGARDING THIS, OR MAYBE NOT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOME CLOSURE TO THIS THING. THE PUBLIC ON BOTH SIDES ARE CALLING US DAILY, AND ALL OF US HAVE RECEIVED THOSE CALLS, AND I HAVE NOT MET WITH EITHER ONE, AND I JUST WANT TO SOMEHOW FINALIZE THIS. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I TOTALLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TOO LONG. WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS. NUMBER 8. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, SINCE WE HAVE DISCUSSION TO BE HAD ON NUMBER 8, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WHEN WE GET TO 8, IF WERE GOING TO END THIS, ORTION, CONTINUE THIS, OR CONTINUE DISCUSSION. >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? TWO NEW PIECES OF INFORMATION POPPED UP THIS WEEK. ONE IS THAT ALTHOUGH APPARENTLY ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PEOPLE SAID THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE MAYOR SAID THIS WEEK, OR COMMENTS CERTAINLY THIS WEEK, THE MAYOR IS AGAINST IT, AND I LEARNED YESTERDAY THAT THE MAYOR HAS A MEETING WITH STAFF AND THE SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ON FRIDAY, THAT I LEARNED ABOUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS. I PRESUME THAT THAT IS TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION. WHAT THE SOUTH OF GANDY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS FIND A SOLUTION FOR SOUTH OF GANDY, NOT CITY-WIDE. ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY WOULD ASK US TO VOTE FOR THIS, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY DID NOT ASK US FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SOUTH OF GANDY, AND EVERY EXPERT I TALK TO SAID THERE ARE SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED YET. AND SINCE THE MAYOR IS LEADING WITH THE SOUTH OF GANDY LEADERS ON FRIDAY ANYWAY, I WAS NOT INVITED TO THAT MEETING, BY THE WAY, BY ANYBODY, BUT THERE IS A MEETING ON FRIDAY, AND I PRESUME THAT THEY WILL BE COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION TT TH WILL BE PRESENTING TO US, SO WHY WOULD WE APPROVE A SOLUTION WHEN THEY ARE WORKING ON A BETTER ONE? THANK YOU. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY TO ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT IS IT COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO HOLD DISCUSSION RATHER THAN CUT IT SHORT FOR THE PURPOSE OF GETTING TO THE ATU, IF YOU CAN WAIT TO ITEM 8? OTHERWISE, YOU HAVE TO INVEST THE TIME NOW TO HEAR THE -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAIT FOR NUMBER 8 AND THEN THE MAYOR IS HAVING A MEETING, MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO ANY OTHER CHANGES,DDITNS, SUBSTITUTIONS -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY IN REFERENCE TO THE STAFF REPORTS, RELEASE ANYBODY, HAVE THE GENTLEMAN GO THROUGH THE LIST OF 69 AND 78? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH REGARD TO THE STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS, ANY CONFERENCE WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF, HE DOES ASK COUNCIL TO REVIEW THOSE ITEMS, NUMBER 69 TODAY THROUGH 78, TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY THAT DO REQUIRE STAFF TO BE PRESENT, AND IF THE REPORTS ARE SUFFICIENT, TO RELEASE THE ADMINISTRATION STAFF MEMBERS SO THEY CAN GET BACK TO THEIR DAY JOB, AND OTHERWISE, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT COUNCIL DOES WISH TO HAVE STAFF APPEAR ON, TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE ADMINISTRATION ON NOTICE, SO THE STAFF REPORT AT 1:30, THEY WILL BE STANDING BY. >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE OUGHT TO RECEIVE AND FILE NUMBER 76. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? MOTION PASSES. >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER CAN GO FIRST. YOU KNOW WHAT, I GUESS I WILL GO FIRST. FOR 75 I DON'T NEED ANYBODY HERE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T NEED ANYONE HERE FOR THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: 75. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S ON NUMBER 75. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 70, WE STARTED A CONVERSATION THIS WEEK. I APPRECIATE HER TIME. I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO COMPLETELY GET BACK TO HER, SO I WOULDSK FOR A ONE-MONTH CONTINUANCE ON ITEM NUMBER 70, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WRAP THAT UP AND BRING THE ORDINANCE TO COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND BY MR. VIERA. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THE DATE THEN WOULD BE JUNE 3rd AT STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT TO A CLOSE. >>MARTINHELB A A VOTE ON THAT PLEASE SIR. >> MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER. I THINK IT WAS SECONDED BY MR. VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR? ITEM NUMBER 70. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE OTHER ITEM IS ITEM 18. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BRINGING THIS FORWARD BY MEMO YESTERDAY. I WOULD LIKE TO CARRY THIS OVER FOR TWO WEEKS TO HAVE A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM WITH STAFF. I DON'T NEED A LOT OF TIME BUT I DO NEED TO GO OFFLINE WITH THEM ON ITEM 18. SO I MOVE TO CONTINUE THAT FOR TWO WEEKS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, THAT BEING ON THE CONSENT DOCKET, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF THE STAFF IS AVAILABLE, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT THEY NEED TO COMMENT TO BRING TO STAFF'S ATTENTION BEFORE THERE IS A MOTION VOTED ON, TO GET STAFF INPUT WITH REGARD TO THAT ITEM. ULTIMATELY IT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION, OF COURSE. BUT A REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE, I E SENSITIVE BUT NORM LIP AS A COURTESY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT A DIFFERENT ROUTE? WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE IT FOR NOW, AND IF THEY HAVE CONCERN WITH THAT, THEY CAN LET ME KNOW AND I WILL BRING IT BACK LATER IN THE MEETING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN THE MOTION WOULD BE THEN TO CONTINUE IT FOR -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TWO WEEKS. >>THE CLERK: MAY 20th. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION MADE BY MR. DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANYTHING BEFORE ATU. I KNOW THEY AREAITI FOR US. MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A CONTINUANCE. I'M SURE. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING FROM STAFF. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. IS THERE ANY WAY, MR. SHELBY, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE IT NOW, AGAIN OUT OF DEFERENCE TO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER? AND IF THEY WANT TO THE BE BROUGHT UP, WE CAN BRING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA IF NEED BE? >> ABSOLUTELY. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >> CHAIRMAN GUDES? GOOD MORNING. CAROLE POST FROM ADMINISTRATION. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM ON THE LINE, SHOULD YOU NEED TO DISCUSS THE CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 8, PRIOR TO THE ITEM COMING UP ON THE AGENDA. I KNOW YOU HAVE -- I WILL DEFER TO YOUR DIRECTION ON TT, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WE ARE WILLING AND ABLE TO ADDRESS THE MATTER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. POST. WE HAVE TO GET THESE ATU FOLKS OUT OF HERE. THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING. NUMBER 8 IS A BIG ISSUE SO WE'LL HOLD OFF WITH YOU. YOU STAY ON THE LINE WHILE WE% DEAL WITH THE ATU, IF YOU DON'T MIND MA'AM. >>CAROLE POST: SURE THING. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN GO NOW WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. CORRECT SIR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGENDA AND ADDENDUM YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND APPROVAL OF THE ADDENDA AND AGENDA. MR. MANISCALCO MOVED IT. MR. CITRO SECONDED IT. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION MOVES. WE WILL GO TO CEREMONIALS. ATU STAFF. I HAVE MY AIDE SONYA DOWN THERE. SHE'S GOING TO DO IT FOR US TODAY. >> TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION IN RECOGNITION OF JANE STOCKMAN, ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR YOUR EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE OF DUTY AS AN ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN 3 WITH THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DIVISION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. SINCE JOINING THE CITY IN 2015, YOU PLAY A KEY ROLE IN THE SERVICE THE CIT PROVIDES BY MANAGING A VARIETY OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND UNDERTAKING COMPLEX AND DIFFICULT SITUATIONS DURING CHALLENGING TIMES. IN THIS ROLE, JAMES, YOU A SIFT LEADERSHIP TREMENDOUSLY BY YOUR SHARP ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND DOING A SPECTACULAR JOB. AS A MODEL PUBLIC SERVANT, JAMES, YOU ARE ALWAYS COURTEOUS AND RESPECTFUL TOWARDS EVERYONE, DISPLAYING YOUR PROFESSIONALISM ON A DAILY BASIS. YOU ARE ONE OF THE CITY'S SECRET WEAPONS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THE SERVICE THE CITY PROVIDES. YOUR POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND YOUR ABILITY TO INSPIRE OTHERS WITH YOUR WORK ETHIC IS WELL KNOWN, AND WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS A MEMBER OF OUR WORKFORCE. IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL PRESENTS THIS COMMENDATION ON THIS 6th DAY OF MAY, 2021. [ APPLAUSE ] >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ELECTIONS. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARD. ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JAMES DAWSON, AND ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN 3 WITH THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT. HIS ASUBSTITUTE ATTENTION TO DETAIL OVER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IS BUT ONE SPECIFIC ATTRIBUTE THAT DEFINES HIS ABILITY. JAMES SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW BY MAINTAINING A PROFESSIONAL DEMEANOR DURING DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING SITUIONS HE'S INSTRUMENTAL IN OVERSEEING AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING A VARIETY OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS FOR THE CITY AND IS HIGHLY RESPECTED BY TEAM MEMBERS AND CITY CONTRACTORS. JAMES A SPIRES TO ACCEPT MORE COMPLEX AND DIFFICULT ASSIGNMENTS AND IS ALWAYS WILLING AND EAGER TO PROVIDE TRAINING IN SUPPORT OF THOSE ON HIS TEAM. CURRENTLY HE IS ASSIGNED MULTIPLE INSPECTION DUTIES WITHIN THE CITY'S WATER DEPARTMENT TREATMENT FACILITY, AND HIS TECHNICAL PROWESS AND PERSISTENCE ENSURES INSPECTIONS ARE THOROUGH, COMPLETE, AND IN COMPLIANCE. JAMES HH QUALITY CHARACTERISTICS SUCH AS HONESTY AMBITION AND STRONG WORK ETHIC MAKE HIM A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. WE COMMEND HIS EXEMPLARY COULD DUCT AND HE RECEIVES OUR ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH AWARD. CONGRATULATIONS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY LEADERSHIP BEHIND ME. WITHOUT THOSE GUYS, THIS WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE AND OF COURSE MY WIFE, WITHOUT HER SUPPORT, I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY COMMENTS? >>LUIS VIERA: JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA. WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR CITY ARE OUR EMPLOYEES INCLUDING OUR ATU MEMBERS, AND LIKE MR. SIMON SAYS, YOU ALWAYS KEEP THE CITY RUNNING ON TIME. AND THAT'S THROUGH JOBS THAT ARE OFTEN SEEN, OFTEN NOT SEEN, SO TODAY IS A TIME IN WHICH WE CAN JUST SEE WHAT YOU DO. BUT JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. WHAT YOU ALL DO IS PUBLIC SERVICE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR. [OFF MICROPHONE] ALL THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE FAMILY. AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF THE FAMILY. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING UNION STRONG. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AGAIN, EVERYONE PLAYS A PART IN THE CITY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND FINISH UP BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL DONE. MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ETHIC LIKE MENTIONED BEFORE AND YOU ARE ONE OF MANY OF THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE PUBLICOESN SEE WHAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS TO MAKE THIS CITY WORK, AS YOU WELL KNOW BEING AN ENGINEER AND WORKING AS HARD AS YOU HAVE FOR YOUR GOOD FRIEND OF THE CITY, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE DOING THE PROGRESS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. BUT YOU AND YOUR GROUP AND YOUR OPERATION OF THE UNION THAT YOU BELONG TO ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR WHAT YOU ARE DO ON A DAILY BASIS. CONGRATULATIONS SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A GUY BY THE NAME OF STEPHEN MICHELINI BEHIND YOU AND I DIDN'T SEE HIM. I'M SURE HE HAS SOME GOODIES FOR YOU. >>STEVE MICHELINI: THIS IS A BIG GUY HERE. [ LAUGHTER ] >>ORLANDO GUDES: I COULDN'T SEE HIS HAND GOING UP. >>STEVE MICHELINI: I ASKED, DID HE PLAY FOR THE BUCS OR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW, STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FOLKS, AND FIRST I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE PEOPLE, THE GUYS AND THE WOMEN IN THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ME TNGS RUN SMOOTHLY. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ENSURE THAT THE CONTRACTS FOR THE FIELD WORKERS GO CORRECTLY IN THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO GO. SO WE APPRECIATE THEM. THEY ARE RARELY SEEN, BUT WE ALL HEAR ABOUT THEM. AND BECAUSE THESE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD, IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. SO ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A GIFT CERTIFICATE SO HE CAN GO SEE THE SHOW OF HIS CHOICE AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF SHOWS THAT HE CAN CHOOSE FROM. ON BEHALF OF CICCIO'S RTAURT GROUP, A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR HIS CHOICE BREAKFAST LUNCH OR DINNER. ON BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE ARE PROVIDING HIM, AND UM SURE HIS CO-WORKERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO GO TO THAT ONE. BUT HE CAN CHOOSE AGAIN LUNCH OR DINNER. AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO PRESENT THAT TO HIM. AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE? >> I WANTED TO ON BEHALF OF ATLU 1864 GIVE A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION TO JAMES $100 GIFT CARD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JAMES, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN GUDES AND MR. SIMON FOR DOING THIS AWARD ON A REGULAR BASIS. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES SEE THAT WE APPRECIATE THEIR HARD WORK. JAMES, YOU HAVE A GROUP OF FOLKS BEHIND YOU. YOUR WORK MATES BACK THERE, INCLUDING MR. BAIRD. AND WE HAVE ALL WORKED CLOSELY WITH MR. BAIRD FOR MANY YEARS. AND IF MR. BAIRD SAYS YOU ARE A GOOD GUY AND HE'S STANDING THERE SHAKING HIS HEAD, THEN WE KNOW YOU ARE A GOOD GUY AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5. THANKS FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO CLARIFY IN REGARD TO STAFF REPORTS THE ONES WE ARE RELEASING. IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING. SO BASICALLY, ARE WE SAYING THAT IF THEY GAVE US A MEMO, THAT THAT'S ADEQUATE AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM? WHAT ARE WE SAYING HERE? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY,@C? I THINK THAT'S A DISCUSSION WE MAY HAVE LATER ON DOWN THE LINE WITH CHIEF OF STAFF IN REFERENCE TO SOME HOUSE CLEANING THINGS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ECIFALLY, I THOUGHT -- THEY ARE ALL IMPORTANT ISSUES. I BROUGHT UP AN IMPORTANT ISSUE ON ITEM 74 IN RELATION TO AN IMPACT FEE TO HELP SUPPORT POLICE AND FIRE. AND WE GOT TWO MEMOS BACK BUT I THINK A DISCUSSION ON THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT THAT IF THERE ARE MEMOS THAT ARE RECEIVED, IT SAYS TO APPEAR AND PROVIDE A REPORT. BUT IF COUNCIL SHOULD FEEL THAT THE REPORT SUFFICES, AND YOU HAVE CERTAINLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO RELEASE THE ADMINISTRATION FROM HAVING TO SPEAK AT STAFF REPORTS SEWING THAT WILL NOT BE NECESSARY FOR DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION. IN REGARD TO, LET'S SAY, NUMBER 74, WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DINGFELDER SAID WAS REQUEST THAT STAFF BE PRESENT FOR THE 1:30 STAFF REPORTS TO DISCUSS ITEM 74. THAT'S APPROPRIATE. FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE SOME, FOR INSTANCE, NUMBER 75 WITH THE ROLE IS JUST TO PROVIDE A REPORT, THAT IS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE I CLEAR TO RELEASE THE ADMINISTRATOR FROM HAVING TO BE ONLINE FOR ITEM 75 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE DONE PREVIOUSLY. WITH REGARD, LET'S SAY, TO NUMBER 77, THAT'S TO INVESTIGATE AND REPORT. YOU DID HAVE A MEMORANDUM TO RECEIVE AND FILE. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER COUNCIL WANTS MR. PEREZ OR A MEMBER OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO BE HERE FOR A REPORT ON NUMBER 77. IF THAT REPORT SUFFICES, TO RELEASE THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE STAFF FROM HAVING TO BE ON CALL. THE SAME THING WITH NUMBER 78. NUMBER 78 IS A REPORT, AND THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE ON NUMBER 78. SO I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL, AND I HAVE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, CERTAINLY WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF BUT THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAS COMMUNICATED THAT THE TIME THAT YOU INVEST UPFRONT IN GIVING DIRECTION TO COUNCIL AS TO THEIR TIME REQUIREMENTS FOR YOUR WILL CERTAINLY AID IN THEIR EFFICIENCY, AND IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH YOUR STAFF REPORTS AND DETERMINE WHICH YOU FEEL AS A COUNCIL ARE NECESSARY FOR STAFF TO BE HERE. AND OF COURSE TODAY THERE ARE A LOT OF STAFF REPORTS, COUNCIL, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TO LOOK THROUGH. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD I MAKE A SUGGESTION? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE WHEN WE ARE DOING THE AGENDA REVIEW IN THE BEGINNING, MAYBE, MR. CHAIRMAN, MIGHT WANT TO JUMP TO THE STAFF REPORTS AND WK THROUGH EACH ONE, AND JUST SAY, RELEASE, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTION, SPEAK UP, THIS ONE IS RELEASED, THIS ONE STAYS, THIS ONE IS RELEASED, AND THAT WAY EACH COUNCIL PERSON CAN SPEAK UP TO EACH ONE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SUGGESTION, MR. DINGFELDER. I WILL GIVE TO THE MR. SHELBY AND IS THE T STAFF. FORGIVE ME, 78, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS JUST A REPORT. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AN APPEARANCE BECAUSE I DID -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HR ABOUT 78. AND I THOUGHT COUNCIL TO DETERMINE AT WELL. I KIND OF THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE HERE AND I COULD CHIME IN ON 78 AS WELL. SO I GET YOUR POINT. MR. SHELBY AND MYSELF WILL DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE I THINK MR. DINGFELDER MAKES A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THINGS DO COME UP ALONG THE WAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU RAISE ALSO A VERY INTERESTING REPORT. IF THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT BUT THE REPORT RAISES QUESTIONS, DURING YOUR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA YOU COULD STILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, THAT YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER OR HAVE THE STAFF ANSWER THOSE QUESTNS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, SO YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE THEM THERE. BUT IF YOU WANT THEM TO APPEAR DURING THE APPROPRIATE AGENDA, SAY YES, WE HAVE A REPORT THAT'S BEEN DISTRIBUTED, I DO REQUEST OR COUNCIL DOES REQUEST STAFF TO BE PRESENT AT STAFF REPORTS IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I BELIEVE ON 76, I BELIEVE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS 78 AS WELL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 76 WAS ALREADY RECEIVED BY MOTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS WITH REGARD TO 78. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY HEAR THE REPORT SO COUNCILCAN REALLY GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF 78. AND I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE IT AND I APOLOGIZE TO STAFF FOR THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION HOPEFULLY LISTENING, TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT FOR NUMBER 78 TO DISCUSS? IS THAT YOUR INTENTION? >>ORLANDO GUDES:NESS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE AND SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL IT? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES WE CAN DO . ITEM 70. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUE TO JUNE 3rd. WITH REGARD TO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE AND AGENDA REVIEW OF THE CITY CLERK AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY, WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE ON NUMBER 69. >>ORLANDO GUDES: 71, A MOTION TO CONTINUE. NO QUESTION ON THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE UP THAT MEMOE AGENDA? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL MOVE 71 AND 72. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. 73? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'M OKAY FOR THAT TO GO AWAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE CAN RELEASE ON 73. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN DO A MOTION TOECEI AND FILE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MIRANDA. MOTION CARRIED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 73 IS RELEASED. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: 74 IS APPEARING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 74 I WOULD LIKE US ALL TO TALK ABOUT IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 75. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS RELEASED. AM I CORRECT, MADAM CLERK? >>ORLANDO GUDES: 74, SATISFIED WITH THE REPORT. 75. >> [OFF MICROPHONE] IF I COULD DISCUSS -- >>LUIS VIERA: I MAY WANT TO SAY SOME REMARKS ON IT BUT I DON'T NEED ANYBODY FROM STAFF ON IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO WITHDRAW? 76. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: 76 IS GONE. 76 IS GONE. 77. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT WAS MR. MANISCALCO. MOTION. I DO WANT A REPORT, MR.% MANISCALCO? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE THAT MR. MANISCALCO IS CORRECT ON THESE ISSUES. NOT ONLY IN THAT AREA THAT HE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IN THIS REPORT, THIS INVESTIGATION AND REPORT, BUT THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA HAS COME T GRIPS WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE ILLEGAL TRUCKS, AND I DON'T MEAN TRUCKS THAT ARE F-150s, I MEAN SEMI, TWO AND A HALF TONS, THAT ARE PARKED EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY, AND THEY ARE LEAVING THEM THERE FROMFULLY FRIDAY NIGHT TO MONDAY MORNING. AND SOME SKID IS GOING TO GET KILLED UNEXPECTEDLY BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC CAN'T SEE THEM, COME UP BEHIND ONE OF THOSE TRUCKS, THEY ARE PARKED THERE ON CITY ROAD, CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO STOP, AND THE FAMILIES OF BOTH SIDES, THOSE THAT ARE DECEASED AND THOSE THAT DID, THE ACT OF NOT TRYING TO KILL ANYONE, BUT IT'S AN ACT TWO FAMILIES DON'T GET HURT, AND HE'S 100% IN DOING THIS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE MR. MANISCALCO FROM WHERE I AM. BUT IF IT'S COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO WANT TO DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE SUNSHINE, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TO YOU HEAR FROM EACH OTHER. IF YOU WANT STAFF PRESENT FOR NUMBER 77 YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU DISCUSS IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE THAT JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ENFORCEMENT FOR THESE VEHICLES. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IT ALL. SUNDAY MORNING, I GET A PHONE CALL ABOUT A TRACTOR TRAILER PARKING THAT REGULARLY PARKS IN THIS GENTLEMAN'S PARKING LOT ON HIS PROPERTY, TEARING UP HIS PARKING LOT, BLOCKING THE STOP SIGN, BLOCKING VISIBILITY, WHERE AGAIN SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET% KILLED. THAT'S THE NEWEST COMPLAINT. OTHER TIMES THEY ARE BLOCKING SIDEWALKS. I HAVE PEOPLE COMPLAINING, ADA ACCESSIBILITY WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS THERE, BUT THESE VEHICLES ARE PARKING ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND BLOCKING EVERYTHING, MEANING THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIRS OUT INTO THE STREET, WHICH POSES A HAZARD. CHILDREN INVOLVED. PEOPLE ON BICYCLES. WHATEVER IT IS. I WOULD LIKE STAFF HERE JUST SO WE GET CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS. I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS FOR YEARS. AND WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THERE IS ENFORCEMENT COMING, I.V. R I.V. A TPD, VIA CODE ENFORCEMENT WHERE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. AND I HAVE ALREADY COMMENTED ON 78. I THINK, MR. SHELBY, IN IT FUTURE, THESE STAFF REPORTS, WE NEED TO GO DOWN EACH ONE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE MISS THINGS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA WE GO DOWN THE STAFF REPORTS FIRST WE MADE THE CORRECTIONS. WE GO TO ITEM 5. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: CITY CLERK, REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 5. AS IT RELATES TO EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY ADVISORY COMMISSION, THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED REGARDING THE TERM, AND I BELIEVE MR. HART AND MR. SHELBY, THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN TALKING, SO I WANT TO REPORT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I DISTRIBUTED TO YOU A COMMUNICATIO THAT I HAD WITH MR. GREG HART, THE McOF THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY OFFICE, AND HE DOES CONFIRM THAT THE EBOAC HAVE BEEN MEETING SINCE AUGUST WHEN THEY RECONVENED, AND HAVE BEEN MEETING VIRTUALLY AND HAVE BEEN MEETING CONSISTENTLY. SO WITH THAT HE STATED THAT THEIR INITIAL APPOINTMENT EXPIRED ON AUGUST 23rd OF 2020, AND HENCE THEIR APPOINTMENTS WILL EXPIRE IN AUGUST OF 2022 AND CONSISTENT WITH THAT DIRECTION, I HAVE PREPARED A RESOLUTION FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, WHICH IS RETROACTIVE TO AUGUST 23rd OF 2020. SO IF COUNCIL WISHES TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION, THAT WOULD PRESENT IT FOR THE CHAIRMAN'S SIGNATURE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO SECONDS IT. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE TO CLARITY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 6. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: [OFF MICROPHONE] >> MOVE TO APPROVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO MOVED. MR. CITRO SECONDS. ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIED. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: ITEM NUMBER 7. WE HAVE ANOTHER REAPPOINTMENT ON CODE ENFORCEMENT/PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT BOARD FOR JASON VAC VALKENBURG LOOKING TO BE REAPPOINTED GO MOVED BY CITRO, SECOND BY MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU VERY KINDLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR PUBLIC CONSIDERATION OF GISLIVE MATTERS. DO WE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT THAT I AM AWARE. YOU CAN MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY IS REGISTERED FOR THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY REGISTERED FOR THAT, DEPUTY CLERK? >> NO, NOBODY REGISTERED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY CLERK. MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE DOWNSTAIRS? >>THE CLERK: I BELIEVE THERE ARE 10. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. I WILL BE VERY BRIEF. DARRYL MCINTYRE, 100 SOUTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SUITE 200 IN TAMPA, ALSO A TAMPA RESIDENT, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH -- LLP AND WHILE I GENERALLY OPPOSE WHAT I CALL THE ALTERNATE MORATORIUM PROCESS ON APARTMENTS, IN ANY GEOGRAPHY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LAND USE CATEGORIES, I WOULD SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO MOVE THE FOCUS BACK TO SOUTH OF GANDY, AND TO HAVE THE DEBATE WHERE THE DEBATE STARTED AND WHERE THE ISSUE IS INTENSE. THAT'S WHERE THIS ISSUE BELONGS. AND THE FACT THAT IT'S CITY-WIDE, IT'S WRECKING HAVOC IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY. WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS, IT'S DESTROYING PREDICTABILITY IN THE LAND USE PROCESS, AND AT LEAST MOVING THE DISCUSSION BACK TO SOUTH OF GANDY WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT. AGAIN, I DON'T SUPPORT THE MORATORIUM IN GENERAL, BUT AT LEAST MOVING THIS SESSION BACK TO SOUTH OF GANDY WHERE IT BELONGS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS AARON CHANCEY, LIVE IN NORTH YBOR, AFTERNOON IT PROFESSIONAL WORKING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND I AM HERE TO DISCUSS PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. WHEN I MOVED TO EAST TAMPA OVER THREE YEARS AGO, 1816 EAST 18th AVENUE WAS OWNED BY THE SIRALIS GROUP, ATTEMPTED TO RENT OUT THEIR SHED IN THE BACKYARD, HOWEVER AN ORDER SAYING THE SHOWED WAS NOT A SEPARATE DOMICILE AND CO-NOT BE RENTED AS SUCH. THE ORDER STATED THAT THE KITCHEN THAT WAS INSTALLED WITHOUT PERMITS IN THE SHED IN ADDITION TO THE SEPARATE ELECTRIC METER WAS TO BE REMOVED. IT NEVER WAS. THE GROUP THEN TRANSFERRED THE PROPERTY TO ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, AND WILLIAM DID RENT OUT THE SHED. THIS WAS REPORTED TO AND OBSERVED BY TAMPA'S CODE ENFORCEMENT. AT SOME POINT LATER THE LAST RENTERS OF THE SHED LEFT, THERE WAS A FIRE DAMAGING THE INTERIOR THAT MADE IT UNINHABITABLE. THAT IS ITS CURRENT STE. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WILLIAMS SOLD 1816 EAST 18th AVENUE TO ANOTHER INVESTOR WHO INTENSIFIED FOR A PERMIT TO RENOVATE THE MAIN HOUSE AND THE T SHED, CALLING THE SHED A DETACHED MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE. THEY HAVE NOT YET SUBMITTED PLANS. HOWEVER, LIKE THE INVESTOR WHO OWNS 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE, THE PRECONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN WAS CHICKEN SCRATCH ON A SHEET OF PAPER AND ALSO LIKE THAT OTHER INVESTOR SOME LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION STARTED PRIOR TO A PERMIT BEING ISSUED AS WAS EVIDENCED BY THE WORK THROUGH ON-SITE WORKING LAST WEEK, MULTIPLE WORK TRUCKS IN AND OUT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE TWO DUMPSTERS PUT OUT SCRAP BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WERE FILLED UP BY THEIR EFFORTS. ONE HAS SINCE BEEN HAULED AWAY. THE OTHER IS STILL SITTING IN THE DRIVEWAY. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT UNLIKE THE INVESTOR WHO OWNED 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE, A PERMIT WILL NOT BE ISSUED FOR PLANS THAT DO NOT MEET THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HELD US TO WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I RECENTLY IMPROVED OUR HOME. I ALSO HOPE THAT NO PERMITS WILL BE ISSUED FOR WORK ON 1816 EAST 18th AVENUE UNTIL COMPLETE. THIS COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S ORDER TO REMOVE THE KITCHENETTE AND THE ELECTRIC METERS PRESENTLY INSTALLED ON THE SHED. ALTHOUGH GIVEN WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE INVESTOR-OWNED PROPERTIES AT 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE AND THE HISTORY WITH 1816 EAST 18th AVENUE, I HAVE LITTLE HOPE FOR EITHER OF THOSE OUTCOMES. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH INVESTORS GET TO PLAY BY A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAN THE REST OF US OFTEN AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REST OF US, AND MORE OVER, THE EXPENSE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, SIR, MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] ... THEIR OWN NAME SO THEY GET PREFERENCE AS A HOMEOWNER AT TAX RATE INSTEAD OF A BUSINESS TAX RATE, AND IF YOU ARE PAYING $1,000 A YEAR, YOU SHOULD BE PAYING $4,000 A YEAR OR THEREABOUTS, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS SUFFERING, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IS SUFFERING, AND MORE IMPORTANT, THE SCHOOL BOARD IS SUFFERING. NONE OF THOSE TAXES ARE COLLECTED. AND ON P OF THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY ARE CHEATING, I AM SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T APPLY, MORE LIKELY, IN THEIR TAXES WHEN IT WAS APRIL, AND I THINK TO THIS MONTH OF MAY WHERE THEY APPLY, THAT NEVER SHOWS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A RENTAL BUSINESS, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDED ON. AND THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE FACING INFORM WHATEVER REASON THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA AND POSSIBLY THE NATION. AND IT'S NOT THAT THEY DON'T CARE, IT'S THAT THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM WITHIN A SMALL TAKE ON SAMPLING ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, AND IN A SMALL AREA OF A CERTAIN DISTRICT IN WEST TAMPA, WE FOUND 232 HOMES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN A SMALL AREA AS MORE THAN LIKELY HAVING RENTAL PROPERTY WITHOUT CONSENT, WITHOUT PAYING TAXES, WITHOUT PAYING SOMETHING. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT THE GENERAL POPULATION ARE THE ONES BECAUSE THE COST OF LIVING GOES UP NOT ONLY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES BUT FOR ALL BUSINESSES, AND LET'S FACE IT, WHAT'S HAPPENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS SOMETHING WHAT SHE SAID A GRANDMOTHER, OR A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE, THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, AND I WILL TELL WHAT YOU IT IS, IT'S FOR THIS CITY TO IDENTIFY THE MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE OR THE GRANDMOTHER SUITE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE TO US THAT THE BLOOD LINE IS THERE. THERE'S ALL KIND OF ABILITIES NOW THAT THAT CAN BE DONE, AND NOT AT GREAT EXPENSE. AND WHY SULD WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING DOWN IF THEY REALLY ARE RELATED? THEY HAVE TO THAT THAT'S THEIR PARENT, AND FIGURE IT OUT. AND AT ONE TIME, AND I HOPE THIS IS STILL DONE, IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY, THAT WAS ALLOWED WAY BACK AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL. IN FACT I STILL DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IF IT'S REALLY FOR YOUR FAMILY MEMBER. BUT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT THE EVIDENCE TO THIS CITY THAT IT IS YOUR FAMILY MEMBER. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE THAT IT IS. BUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING I WILL MAKE SOMETHING, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BECOMING A HARD BURDEN TO THE REST OF THE TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I APPRECIATE THAT, MIRANDA, AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR MOTION DURING NEW BUSINESS. YES, SIR, YOU CAN BEGIN. >> MY NAME IS CLAYTON LONG, I LIVE IN THE NORTH YBOR EAST TAMPA AREA. I'M A BUSINESS OWNER AND A TAMPA RESIDENT OF NEARLY 40 YEARS, AND I HAVE COME TO TALK ABOUT PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I ADDRESSED THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING AN INVESTOR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO OWNS AT LEAST TWO HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. HE HAD TWO STOP WORK ORDERS ISSUES ISSUED ON HIS 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE HOUSE. I DISCUSSED HOW HE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT AFTER HIS FIRST STOP WORK ORDER ON THAT HOUSE AND I DESCRIBED HOW HIS PLANS WERE APPROVED EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT TO SCALE AND DID NOT HAVE DIAGRAMS, DIDN'T HAVE WINDOW DIAGRAMS, INSTALLATION DETAILS, AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE LISTED AS IN SCOPE FOR THE PERMIT. TWO WEEKS AGO I RETURNED TO TELL YOU THAT MR. HUTCHINSON FROM TAMPA'S CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTACTED ME, PRESUMABLY AT THE URGING OF ONE OR MORE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD ENSURE CONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT START AT 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE UNTIL THE PLANS MET THE CITY'S STATED REQUIREMENTS. THE SAME REQUIREMENTS I HAD TO MEET WHEN I DID CONSTRUCTION OF A SIMILAR SCOPE OF WORK ON MY HOME JUST THREE YEARS AGO. A PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO 1813 EAST 18th AVENUE AND THE PLANS STILL FALL WAY SHORT OF CITY SPECIFICATIONS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MINOR WORK HERE. THE SCOPE OF THE WORK INCLUDES WINDOW REPLACEMENTS FOR ALL THE WINDOWS IN THE HOUSE, REMOVING WALLS, BUILDING THE KITCHEN WITD SUBSTANTIAL ELECTRICAL WOR SO I STAND BEFORE YOU AGAIN AND ASK WHY IS IT WHEN I APPLY FOR A PERMIT I HAVE TO MEET THE CITY'S STATED SPECIFICATIONS, BUT IT'S TO ENSURE THE BUILDING CODE COMPLIANCE AND TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WHEN I ASK WHY ISN'T THE INVESTOR NEXT DOOR HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD, IT'S APPARENTLY TOO BURDENSOME. TO ANY OBJECTIVE OBSERVER IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE SHENANIGANS GOING ON HERE TO. FURTHER ILLUSTRATE THIS POINT, LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA MADE ME SUBMIT FOR MY PERMIT PLA. THESE ARE DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE WINDOW INSTALLATION. THESE ARE THE ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS. ALL OF THIS IS TO SCALE. IT HAS ALL OF THE MEASUREMENTS IN IT. IT IS TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT THE CITY REQUIRES INCLUDING THE EXACT SIZE WHICH THE CITY PUSHED BACK ON ME FOR TWO MONTHS UNTIL I GOTT APPROVED. THE OTHER INVESTOR GOT APPROVED AFTER TWO WEEKS WITH THIS. NOW, ANY OF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU. THIS PERSON IS GOING TO SELL THIS HOUSE WITHOUT ANY OF THE WORKERS KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY BUILT, WITHOUT THE INSPECTOR BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND KNOW HOW IT'S BEING BUILT OR WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK IS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN NTIN. >> THIS ENDS UP HURTING PEOPLE. THIS IS REALLY ALL THAT'S GOING ON HERE. AND THIS TIME, THE SHIP HAS SAILED. WORK IS ALREADY COMPLETED ON. THIS BUT WE KNEW ABOUT THIS AHEAD OF TIME. WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE FAILED TO DO SO. AND I JUST WANT US TO RECOGNIZE THAT, AND TRY TO DO BETTER NEXT TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE ON THIS MATTER. I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE INVOLVED WITH THIS, AND DID HELP, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THIS IS A REAL ONGOING PROBLEM THAT HONESTLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA. THANK YOU SOUCH. GO BEGUN THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >> MY NAME IS SUSAN LONG. AND I LIVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. THE PROBLEMS YOU HEARD ABOUT FOR THE LAST TWO SPEAKERS ARE T SAME PROBLEMS BUT AT A LESSER DEGREE THAT WE HAVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS. WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PERMITTING, BUILDINGS THAT ARE IN TOTAL VIOLATION OF RESTRICTIONS ON BUILDING IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, A HOUSE WAS APPROVED TO BE BUILT FOUR DOORS DOWN THE STREET FROM ME, IT WAS BEING BUILT UP TO THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES ON EITHER SIDE, WATTS ZONED SH-RS, WE ZONED IT THAT WAY PARTICULARLY SO THAT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND ANYBODY ELSE WOULD KNOW IT WAS IN SEMINOLE HEIGH AND NO WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS WERE, AND WE HAD TO CALL CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, HAVE THEM COME OUT, LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND CONSTRUCTION SERVICES MADE THEM RIP OUT EVERYTHING THEY PUT IN, IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET, TOO CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBOR, ET CETERA. THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM ONE PERSON IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM ANOTHER. IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE THE GUY THAT TURNS IN THE PLAN ON A NAPKIN, AND THEY APPROVE IT, YOU WON FINANCIALLY. IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE THE PERSON THAT GOT CAUGHT AND MADE TO FOLLOW THE RESTRICTIONS YOU HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY O MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE STILL DEVELOPING OR BEGINNING TO BE DEVELOPED TO DISCOVER THAT ONE PERSON CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT, AND THE NEXT PERSON HAS TO SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR IONS IN THE CITY. I HAVE LIVED HERE 20-SOME-SOME ODD YEARS AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE DAY I MOVED IN AND I HEAR THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN SOLVED AND TWO WEEKS LATER THE SAME THING IS HAPPENINGGAIN I HOPE THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM CAN BE RESOLVED THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 8. D URGYOU TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL FOR THIS ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE HAS A WIDE RANGING EFFECT. THERE HAS BEEN NO FINDING OF URGENCY REGARDING THIS. THE IMPENDING CHALLENGES FOR HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE HAVE NOTE BEEN DISCRIMINATED. INDEED THIS ISSUE BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH, STARTED OUT AS COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AND THEN CAME BACK AN EVACUATION AND THEN DENSITY AND TRAFFIC AND TRANSPLANTATION TRANSPORTATION, AND IT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES REGARDING THE PRINCIPAL AREAS DESIGNAD F GROWTH AND THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS USF WESTSHORE DOWNTOWN CHANNELSIDE EBBS. THEY WOULD ALL SUFFER. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS ARE LEGALLY DEFINED AND DESIGNATED AS HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AREAS, AND THIS HAS BEEN NO SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE SUBMITTED, DISCUSSED OR PROVIDED TO WARRANT SUCH AN EXTREME MEASURE IN THESE AREAS WITH ALL BE IMPACTED. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OR ANY MEASURE THAT DEMONSTRATED JUSTIFICATION FOR ANY ACTIONS SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. IN THIS REGARD, WE ARE ONLY OOSED TO -- THIS IS ON BEHALF OF THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION -- TO ADOPTING THIS MEASURE AND THE EFFECTS OF THE ENTIRE CITY. THE OBJECTIVES OF THE ORDINANCE HAVE CHANGED. WE DO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR INPUT, EVALUATION STUDY AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD AS WELL AS THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A MAP. THIS IS THE AREAS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. THESE ARE ALL CMU-35, CC-35, AND UMU-60 AREAS. IF YOU NOTICE, THEY ARE ALL ALIGNED ALONG THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS. HERE IS A MAP SHOWING YOU THE DESIGNATED TRANSIT CORRIDORS. ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN ADOPTED THROUGH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEY ARE ALSO REFLECTED IN YOUR CITY OF TAMPA CODE. THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU THE DISTRICTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE IMPACTED AND WHERE THEY ARE PRINCIPALLY, AND THIS IS A DETAIL OF THAT SAME MAP. PRINCIPALLY THE AREAS WHERE YOU ARE SHOWING AND EXPECTING GROWTH TO OCCUR THAT WILL BE AFFECTED ARE DISTRICTS 5 AND DISTRICT 6. THAT'S EAST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, AND WEST TAMPA, AND THE AIRPORT AREA. SO IN THAT REGARD, THE OBJECTIVE, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE, WAS TO TRY TO ASSIST SOUTH OF GANDY. THIS COMPLETELY MISSES THE MARK AND AFFECTS OTHER AREAS, AGAIN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. WE URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. THK YO VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. GO AHEAD, SIR. >> MENTESNOT. JUST AS IN RECONSTRUCTION, WHITE PEOPLE, RECONSTRUCTION, AND WHEN YOU HEAR GRANTS, SOUP KITCHEN, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WENT WITH IT, AND THE CARPET BAGGING AND THE SCALLY WAGS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WENT WITH IT, YOU ALWAYS REFLECT BACK AND GO BACK TO OLD SLAVERY DAYS BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN NEW SLAVERY DAYS. ALWAYS CONNECT BACK TO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND. JUST LIKE WE HAVE HAD -- WE HAVE GOT A CHAIRMAN NOW, WE HAVE GOT AN AFRICAN CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T NORMALLY HEAR ME THANK PEOPLE, THANK THE KIDS FOR DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I WANT TO COMMEND THE CHAIRMAN FOR GETTING THE CHAIRMANSHIP POSITION OF CITY COUNCIL, WHEN WE DON'T WANT THAT POSITION TO GO TO WASTE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE WHEN PERRY HARVEY WAS THERE AND WHEN GWEN MILLER WAS THERE AND LES MILLER WAS THERE AND WHEN THE OTHER PEOPLE WERE THERE AND WHEN KEVIN WHITE WAS THERE, AND WHEN THOMAS SCOTT WAS THERE, WHEN FRANK REDDICK WAS THERE. WE WANT -- CAN YOU HOLD DOWN THE CONVERSATION ON THE OTHER SIDE, PLEASE? CAN YOU HOLD MY TIME UP? IF YOU CAN RESTORE MY TIME I WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATIVE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHOEVER IS IN THE STAFF THAT'S IN THERE, IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE QUIET, PLEASE. >> WE WANT IT TO BE WHEN IT WAS LIKE GRANT SOUP KITCHEN AND EVERYBODY W TRYG TO GET STUFF. WE GOT AN AFRICAN CHAIRMAN NOW. WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING. WE WANT TO GET SOME REPARATIONS WHEREVER THIS CITY SINCE IT'S FORMED IN 1823. IN 2023 IT'S GOING TO BE 200 YEARS AND WE AIN'T GOT NOTHING OUT OF IT. WE WANT TO GET OUR 26% OUT OF IT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET OUT OF IT. WE WOULD LIKE OUR CHAIRMN, WE WOULD LIKE OUR AFRICAN CHAIRMAN TO START TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS. WE WOULD LIKE OUR AFRICAN CHAIRMAN TO START TALKING ABOUT REALLY BRINGING SOME SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD LIKE OUR AFRICAN CHAIRMAN TO TALK ABOUT REVERSING AND BICYCLE STOPS AND TAKEN OFF OF THEIR RECORD. WE WOULD LIKE OUR AFRICAN CHAIRMAN TO TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY WHO GOT A CODE VIOLATION, WE THINK WANT THAT OFF THEIR PROPERTY AND OFF THEIR NAME. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHY? COME DOWN HERE AND TRY TO MAKE SOME NOISE AND TRY TO SAY SOMETHING AND TRY TO EXPRESS YOURSELF AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE A HATRED, ALWAYS SAY THEY GOT A HATRED FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE BUT NOW WE GOT AN AFRICAN CHAIRMAN. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. WE WOULD LIKE REPARATIONS. WE WOULD LIKE THOSE BICYCLE STOPS TO BE REMOVED OFF OF ALL OF OUR NAMES. WE WOULD LIKE THE CODE VIOLATIONS TO BE GONE, GONE WITH. WE WOULD LIKE OUR YOUTH TO STOP BEING HARASSED BY THE POLICE, DEFUNDING THE POLICE, DEFUNDING CODE ENFORCEMENT, STUFF LIKE THAT. WE WANT TO START SEEING SOME REAL ISSUES GET TALKED ABOUT. WE DON'T WANT THESE ISSUES AND ALL THIS, FRATERNITIES, SORORITY, AWARD, AWARD CEREMONY, COME INDICATIONS. THAT'S NONSENSE. STANDING PLEDGE AEGIAE TO THE FLAG AND ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF. THAT'S NONSENSE. PRAYING TO GORE GOD AND REPRESENTING CITY COUNCIL IN A CERTAIN WAY. THAT'S NONSENSE. WE WANT TO SEE SOME REAL SENSE COME TO DISTRICT 5 AND WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE OUR AFRICAN COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TONE SEE FROM OUR CHAIRMAN. REPARATIONS, BICYCLE STOPS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFF THE BACKS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR . GOOD MORNING, SIR. >> MY NAME IS VICTOR DIMAIO. I LIVE AT 3112 NORTH ROME AVENUE. I'M PRESIDENT OF TAMPA'S NEWEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BEAUMONT HATES. WE ARE -- OUR BORDERS ARE THAN E COLUMBUS DRIVE TO THE SOUTH, HILLSBOROUGH RIVER TO THE EAST, TAMPA BAY TO THE NORTH AND HOWARD ARMENIA TO THE WEST. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM 77 THAT WE WORKED FOR YEARS ON NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, WITH COUNCILMAN GUIDO MANISCALCO, FORMER CHAIR, BECAUSE WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS SITUATION THAT WE. BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND TPD, WITH BUSINESSES WHO ARE PARKING THEIR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR NEIGHBOOODSSOCTION CONSULTED WITH SELF FORMER CITY ATTORNEYS, AND THE WORDING THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR MANY YEARS SAYING THE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS CANNOT PARK IN NEIGHBORHOOD UNLESS THEY ARE A PLUMBER WHO LIVES THERE OR ELECTRICIAN WORKING ON A HOUSE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REALIZING THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM, AND IF YOU DO MOVE THIS LANGUAGE FROM THE ONE SECTION IT'S CURRENTLY IN NOW TO ANOTHER SECTION, WHICH WE FELT THATODE ENFORCEMENT AND TPD HAD THE RIGHT TO WRITE TICKETS, IF THAT'S WHAT THE LEGAL EAGLES TELL US WE HAVE TO DO, SO WE ARE BEGGING YOU TO PLEASE MOVE THAT ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME RELIEF, AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY MORE EXCUSES FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND TPD ON ACTING ON THESE REALLY BAD ACTORS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE IN WEST TAMPA FOR MANY YEARS. WE LET A LOT OF THINGS GOING AND LOOK THE OTHER WAY. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS NICE AS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. SO PLEASE, ITEM NUMBER 77, WE WOULD LIKE TO NOT HAVE ANY MORE DELAYS ON THIS. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE, AND ENACTED SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, AND HELP THE POLICE CLEAN UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HERE WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP ON 77 AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE IN AND HOW WE CAN HELP, NOT JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THIS COULD APPLY IN THE ENTIRE CITY IF THIS SITUATION COMES UP AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES THA YOU, SIR. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMES, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION FROM MR. SHELBY ON WHERE WE ARE PROCEDURALLY, BECAUSE I WAS LATE IN ARRIVING, AND I HAVE MR. CARLSON'S MEMORANDUM THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED FOR TWO WEEKS. SO THIS IS SPEAKING ON A COULDN'T ANSWER OR SPEAKING ON THE MERITS OF THE ORDINANCE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE ITEMS -- IT WAS DISCUSSED BRIEFLY, MR. GRANDOFF, DURING THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. BUT FURTHER DISCUSSION AND ANY ACTION IF COUNCIL DOES CHOOSE TO TAKE IT WILL BE TAKEN UP WITH ITEM NUMBER 8. THE ANSWER IS YES, BOTH. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: WHY WOULDN'T WE SPEAK AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS CALLED ON THE AGENDA? >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE THAT IS NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER. COUNCIL WILL BE TAKING UP CHANGES TO ITS RULES DOWN THE ROAD VERY SHORTLY AND PERHAPS ALLOW THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S A LEGISLATIVE MATTER THAT IS ON THE CONSENT DOCKET. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: SO GOING FORWARD, THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE DONE BY COUNCIL, BUT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO ONLY THE PUBLIC COENT CTIOOF THE AGENDA? >>MARTIN SHELBY: TODAY, YES. IF IT MOVES ON FIRST READING IT WILL BE SETTLES FOR A SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING WITH TESTIMONY OR COMMENTS WILL BE TAKEN. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: SO AT THAT SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ASSUMING THAT CURSE, THEN ANY COMMENT WOULD BE MADE AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS CALLED ON THE AGENDA, NOT AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MEAN AT THE SECOND -- AT THE SECOND READING. COUNCIL, IF IT WISHES, IF IT WISHES TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 8 AND WISH TO WAIVE ITS RULES, CAN DO SO. IT CERTAINLY DOES HAVE THAT ABILITY IF IT CHOOSES. YOUR OPPORTUNITY NOW, FRANKLY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S THE NEXT ITEM, IS IT NOT, MR. CHAIR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH NUMBER 8 BUT RIGHT NOW CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND DEAL WITH THE REST OF IT AS IT COMES. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: I DON'T WANT TO BE ARGUING FORM OR SUBSTANCE BUT EITHER WAY IT'S HEARD, MY TIME WOULD BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND OTHER PARTIES AND THE PUBLIC WOULD BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO SPEAK. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT TIME IS A FIXED TIME AND THAT COULD LIMIT PUBLIC DISCOURSE ABOUT THE ORDINANCE. I'M FINE BECAUSE I AM GOING TO SPEAK IN A MOMENT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE NOW. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO NUMBER 8 IN PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU WISH. AND WE'LL CONTINUE AS WE GO. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE DIRECTION. I APPRECIATE IT. MY NAME IS JOHN GRANDOFF, ADDRESS SUITE 3700 BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA SPEAKING ON NUMBER THE ORDINANCE ENTITLED THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE. BEFORE DOING SO, I WANT TO CORRECT THINGS. YOU WERE NOT IN A POSTURE OF A SUBSTANTIAL COMPETENT EVIDENCE WEIGHING PROCEDURE. YOU ARE EXERCISING LEGISLATIVE ACTION. YOU ARE THE LAWMAKERS OF THE CITY AND RIGHTLY SO. THAT'S WHY YOU WERE ELECTED. YOU HAVE BROAD DISCRETION IN PASSING THIS ORDINANCE, BROAD POWER THAT CAN SOMETIMES BE ABUSED OR IMPROPERLY EXERCISED. SO WHILE YOU HAVE BROAD DISCRETION IN EXERCISING YOUR LESLATE POWER, I CAUTION YOU OF A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THERE ARE MANY CONTRACTS THAT ARE PENDING AROUND THE CITY RIGHT NOW IN WHICH DEPOSIT MONEY HAS GONE NONREFUNDABLE, SIGNIFICANT FUNDS, AND THE FINAL CLOSING ON THOSE PURCHASE CONTRACTS DEPEND UPON DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD HOW MANY UNITS CAN BE DESIGNED ON THE PROPERTY BASED UPON F.A.R. AND THAT COULD BE 100 UNITS, AND BUT IF IT'S DESIGNED ON A PER-UN BASIS, THAT COULD BE 70 UNITS. AND I AM NOT ARGUE BEING THE 30, BUT I AM SAYING THAT YOU HAVE CONTRACTS THAT DEPEND UPON UNIT COUNT, BASED UPON F.A.R. AND PRO FORMAS THAT HAVE BEEN RUN. ALL OF THIS GOES ASUNDER IF YOU TAKE OUT THE F.A.R. UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW. THE SELLERS PRICE BECOMES ENDOWED. THAT BECOMES NEGOTIATED, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.% THE PURCHASER'S PRO FORMA IS DEFINITELY IN DOUBT. HOW DO YOU RENEGOTIATE A CONTRACT ONCE THIS ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE? IS THE CITY COUNCIL AFFECTING THE PRIVATE RIGHT OF CONTRACTS? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IN YOUR DISCRETION. YOU ARE PLACING A CHILLING EFFECT ON COMMERCE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT PROPOSES TO CONTROL THE SUPPLY OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, ANYTIME, THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLS OR TRIES TO CONTROL THE SUPPLY OF PRIVATE PROPERTY SY, SPECIFICALLY REAL ESTATE, AND YOU CAN RUN ASUNDER OF THE CONSTITUTION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DO IT UNDER VAGUE AND SUBJECTIVE REASONS. AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THIS ORDINANCE IS AN ANTI-APARTMENT ORDINANCE DISGUISED AS SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPME CONOL ORDINANCE. I THINK THE BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU IN YOUR DISCRETION IS TO TAKE A SURGICAL KNIFE AND PLACE THIS ORDINANCE EXACTLY WHERE YOU WANT IT IN THE CITY ON PARCELS WHICH DO NOT HAVE APPROPRIATE MUNICIPAL SUPPORT SUCH AS STORMWATER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHTS OF WAY, CLEARLY THE WESTSHORE GANDY AREA, MEETS THAT TEST. HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, BUT YBOR CITY, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, TAMPA HEIGHTS, TAMPA PALMS, DO THE BEAR THOSE BURDENS THAT ARE ALL UNIQUE TO DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE CITY? I THINK IT'S BETTER TO GO ON A PARCEL BY PARCEL ANALYSIS OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND DOWN PLAY THOSE CAN TAKE THE F.A.R. OUT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. >>JOHN GRANDOFF: BUT TO DO IT CITY-WIDE I THINK IS A SERIOUS ERROR AND WILL COMPROMISE COMMERCE FOR THE CITY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >> CONNIE BURTON. FIRST, I WILL SAY TO THE POINT FOR CLARIFICATION, SINCE AROUND 1865 AND ON, PEOPLE STOP BEING OWNED. I AM JUST HOPING THATE AR JUST MAKING A MISSTEP BECAUSE MEMBERS OF THIS DESIGN, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS. AND SO OWNERSHIP PART IN THAT YOU WOULD BE LISTENING, PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES OF THE COMMUNITY AND MOVING SO RESPECTFULLY THAT WE KNOW, WE WOULD KNOW THAT WE ARE GETTING PROPER REPRESENTATION AS OPPOSED TO OWNERSHIP. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STATE THAT IT'S VERY TROUBLING TO SEE THIS MORNING AS WELLHAT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORKSHOPS, TALKING ABOUT THE SCORECARD OF TAMPA, AND THE WAY IN WHICH WE CAN ADVANCE ALL TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THIS MORNING FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES RECEIVED A PROMOTION, BUT WHAT YOU RECEIVED THIS MORNING IS YOUR BODY NOT HAVING CONFIDENCE. AND THE REASON WHY THE CONFIDENCE IS LACKING IS BECAUSE OF THE APPLICATION OF MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA IS TREATED FAIRLY, AND THAT WE ARE NOT FORGOTTEN. THAT IS WHAT IT SPOKE TO ME THIS MORNING. AND AS WE CONTINUE TO HEAR PEOPLE NOT WANTING CERTAIN THINGS IN THEIR BACKYARD, THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO ASK FOR THE VERY SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER WHETHER THEY ARE SITTING UNDER A TREE, STANDING ON THE CORNER, IN THEIR PRIVATE HOMES, LOOKING FOR WAYS IN WHICH EAST TAMPA CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO A LIFESTYLE, TT ERYONE IN EAST TAMPA THAT WANTS TO REMAIN IN EAST TAMPA CAN SEE VALUE AND DIGNITY IN THEIR LIVES. WE DON'T SEE IT. 27 SCHOOLS IS CRUMBLING OR FAILING. HOUSES THAT A SIMPLE REHAB CAN CURE A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. AND THEY KEEP ON GETTING PUSHED BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT A POLITICAL FAVOR TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT WE ARE PAYING RING ATTENTION, AND IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR FORMER CHAIR TALK ABOUT HOW EAST TAMPA IS STUCK IN TIME, AND THE MOMENT YOU CAN ACTIVATE IT, YOU WON'T DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT TO YOUR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE. WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON. MR. CARLSON, I WILL RECOGNIZE YOU BUT I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING, BUT I HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: MS. BURTON, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THAT'S POSITIVE COMMENT IT L. BUT I WANT YOU TO LEGALITY EVERYBODY KNOW I AM FINE NOT BEING CHAIR. I APPRECIATE THE NOMINATION. BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF STRESS AND I AM SURE THAT CHAIR CITRO WILL DO A GREAT JOB, AND I APPRECIATE THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE BY THE VICE CHAIR AND STEPPING IN WHEN HE'S NOT AROUND. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO? >> NO, YOU CAN SPEAK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S TROUBLING WHEN I HEAR THAT THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING IN DISTRICT 5. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE. I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE 5.% IT MATE NOT BE TO THE TOTAL LIKING OF SOME. >> NAME THEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S MY TIME, MS. BURTON. >> NAME THEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT MAY NOT BE LIKING TO SOME BUT IT IS A LIKING TO OTHERS. BUT DISTRICT 5 HAS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. AS YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL KNOWS THAT FROM DAY ONE, I PUT TOGETHER HOUSES -- I HAVE BEEN TAING ABOUT REHAB FROM DAY ONE, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A REHAB PROGRAM THAT'S GETTING GEARED UP. SO THINGS THAT ARE ADVOCATING, MS. BURTON, ARE BEING HEARD. THIS IS GOVERNMENT. SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME. SOMETIMES THIS COUNCIL GETS MOVE THAT IT DOESN'T MOVE AS FAST. WE GET FRUSTRATED AS WELL. BUT I WANT TO ASSURE YOU AND EVERYONE IN DISTRICT 5 THAT THIS COUNCILMAN IS WORKING EVERY DAY FOR DISTRICT 5. I AM OUT THERE EVERY DAY, AND SO ARE MY COLLEAGUES, WHEN I MAKE THESE MOTIONS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. THEY MAY SEEM TO MOVE A LITTLE SLOW BUT I C ASSURE YOU THEY ARE MOVING AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THINGS MOVING ALONG IN DISTRICT 5. I CAN GIVE THAT YOU COMMITMENT TODAY, AND TO THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING WHO R WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PARAMETERS OF POLICY MAKING DECISIONS AS DEALS WITH GOVERNMENT MONEY, AS DEALS WITH A LOT OF STAFFING, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU'RE COMMENT BUT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE AND YOU HAVE A BLESSED TODAY. >> I CAN'T BE BLESSED UNTIL OUR COMMUNITY IS BLESSED. THANK YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS ANTONIO ALVAREZ. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU HERE @? >> INTERPRETER: (SPEAKING SPANISH). >> I AM HERE FOR AN INFRACTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE NOT HERE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER 67 YET. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE STAFF HAS NOTIFIED ME THAT THIS IS A REQUEST OF, I BELIEVE, AND WE CAN CONFIRM THIS, TO WITHDRAW THAT, IF THAT IS IN FACT THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE THAT TO ALLOW THIS GENTS TO TAKE IT UP BECAUSE IT IS SET FOR 9:30 AND IT IS AFTER 9:30. WE CAN HOLD THIS ITEM AND THEN ADVANCE IT RATHER THAN HAVE HIM WAIT UNTIL ALL THE WAY UP TO ITEM NUMBER 67. WHAT NUMBER IS THE REVIEW HEARING? >> ITEM NUMBER 67. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 67. I'M SORRY. THAT'S 10:30. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS THERE A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW, MA'AM? >> (SPEAKING SPANISH). INTERPRETER: YES, I HAVE A PETITION TO TAKE OUT THE LITTLE END. >> (SPEAKING SPANISH). INTERPRETER: AND SINCE 2020. I ASK TO AMPLIFY THE DESIGN THAT I HAVE DONE FOR -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO -- WE ARE VIOUY YO ARE NOT WITHDRAWING IT SO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT HEARING. WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THAT HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 67. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND MAYBE IF STAFF IS LISTENING TO THIS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADVISE COUNCIL. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO THE PETITIONER, MR. ALVAREZ, IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 67, WHICH IS THE DE 1-21-17 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2704 WEST KATHLEEN STREET. IN PREPARATION FOR THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW HEARING IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY'S ATTENTION THAT THE PETITIONER IS DEMOLISHING OR HAS 95% COMPLETE THE DEMOLITION REGARDING THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS THE BASIS FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION. CITY STAFF, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S ALREADY LOGGED ONTO THE LINK FOR THIS ITEM, BUT THE CITY WAS INFORMED THIS MORNING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE WALL LEFT REMAINING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN DOWN FROM THE PETITIONER, BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS RECEIVED REGARDING THE STATUS OF THE SHED AND THE DEMOLITION OF THE SHED -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT DOES STAFF WANT TO DO? WE ARE NOT THERE YET. WHAT DOES STAFF WANT TO DO WITH THIS? WE ARE STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT. RIGHT NOW WE ARE STILL IN PUBLIC COMMENT. WE A NOT AN ITEM 67 YET. SO WE ARE ASKING WAS THE GENTLEMAN TRYING TO WITHDRAW, OR ASK STAFF A CLARIFICATION? LET ME KNOW WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE PETITIONER COULD STATE WHETHER OR NOT HE WANTS TO WITHDRAW THE PETITION FOR REVIEW HEARING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S THE CASE, MR. CHAIRMAN, I SUGGEST WE HOLD THIS UNTIL WE COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE WANT TO ADVANCE THIS THING, WE CAN DO SO, SO THEY CANNOT HAVE TO STAY FOR THE, TO STAY ON TIME. BUT THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS NOT BEEN OPENED. ORLAO GUDES: CORRECT. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST HOLD IT, MR. SHELBY, IS YOUR ADVICE, 67, UNTIL WE OPEN THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU CAN ADVANCE IT, AGAIN, EVEN AHEAD OF THE SECOND READINGS IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, IT'S AFTER 9:30. IT'S AFTER 10:30. BUT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO RESOLVE THIS NOW DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT. MA'AM, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS WE'LL DECIDE IF WE ARE GOING TO OPEN IT UP AND BNG IT BACK FIRST. AT THIS TIME WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE PUBLIC COMMENT. IT WILL BE VERY SHORTLY. YES, SIR, MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SENOR? (SPEAKING SPANISH) >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA. WE'LL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. HOW MANY MORE DO WE HAVE DOWN THERE? >>THE CLERK: NO MORE SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. DEPUTY CLERK? >> THE FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE ANDREW MOORE. ANDREW, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEWLY-ELECTED OFFICES. I'M CONCERNED, I REPRESENT GOLD ON HEIGHTS DISTRICT, 1901 IN BEAUMONT HEIGHTS AND THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION THERE. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS NEW -- AND WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM 77, IS ALLOWING TPD TO GAHEA A TICKET SOME INFRACTIONS WITH COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR THREE YEARS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS LOBBIED CITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, TO STOP THIS COMMERCIAL PARKING THAT KEEPS HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THREE YEARS WE WERE TOLD, OH, CITY STAFF OR CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN'T ENFORCE THIS ISSUE. AND THE IN TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM I READ THE REPORT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO ENFORCE ON THIS, AND I AM CONCERNED THAT EVEN IF WE ALLOWED TAMPA PD THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET A LACKADAISICAL RESPONSE FROM BOTH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND TAMPA PD TO ENFORCE ON THIS. I ALWAYS WANT TO STATE THAT THE CODE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IT HAS TO BE A -- WHEN COMMERCIAL VEHICLES COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE TO BE DOING WORK ON THE SAME RESIDENTIAL LOT. THE OPERATORS OF VEHICLES HAVE TO BE AT A JOB SITE OUR AT THEIR HOME AND IT'S KNOW IT APPROPRIATE FOR THESE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO JUST PARK OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO USE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS PUBLIC PARKING FOR THEIR BUSINESSES. THEY ARE EITHER AT A JOB SITE, NOR ARE THEY AT AN PRIORITIES OF A VEHICLE'S HOME. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS. I DO WANT COUNCIL TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE, AND I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FAVOR OF IT. WE ARE JUST CONCERNED. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT PASSING THE BUCK TO TPD AND IT GOES DOWN ANOTHER RABBIT HOLE OF NONENFORCEMENT. WE MET WITH OCEA WYNN INHE PAST. SHE'S AWARE OF OUR ISSUES. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO HER SEVERAL TIMES AND HEARD NO RESPONSE ON THESE ISSUES. WE WOULD LIKE OCEA TO REACH BACK OUT TO US AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOD SO IT CAN BE PROPERLY ENFORCED ON THE COMMERCIAL PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. YOU MAY REMEMBER, I SENT YOU ALL AN E-MAIL A DUMB OF WEEKS AGO THAT SHOWED PICTURES OF THIS ENFORCEMENT HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE WERE HAVING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. IF THAT REFRESHES YOUR MEMORY, PLEASE LOOK AT THOSE E-MAILS AGAIN AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE PICTURES IN THERE WHERE WE HAD COMMERCIAL VEHICLES PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ARE NOT AT A JOB SITE AND NOT AT THE OPERATOR'S HOME THAT ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE DEFINITION. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOU HEARING OUR ISSUES. >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN STROHMEYER. IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. JEAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO TO THE NEXT CALLER AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CARROLL ANN BENNE. CAROL, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA. FIRST I WANT TO COMMEND MR. MANISCALCO ON THE EXCELLENCE JOB HE DID UNDER YOUR HELM, FRANKLY, AND I WANT TO SAY MR. GUDES, I DIDN'T NONYOU BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED, I HAVE NO IDEA REALLY WHAT TO EXPECT FROM YOU, BUT YOU HAVE PROVEN THROUGH YOUR VOTING RECORD THAT YOU ARE UNASHAMEDLY AND ADAMANTLY PRO NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS YOUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN, AND I AM VERY HAPPY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE CHAIR, AND YOU CERTAINLY DESERVE THE POSITION. I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 8. I DO NOT WANT IT DELAYED. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND ON. AND IT NEED TO BE RESOLVED TODAY. AND FRANKLY, THE WHOLE SITUATION WITH THE BAR HAS JUST BEEN COMPLETELY EXAGGERATED IN MY OPINION, MISS REPRESENTED. THIS ONLY AFFECTS A NARROW SLIC. IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ZONING THEY NEED, THEY JUST PULL THE PERMITS. IT ONLY AFFECTS IF IT'S SINGLE USE AND NOT MIXED USE. THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE AREA, MR. MICHELINI SHOWED YOU, ISN'T REALLY THE WHOLE PICTURE BECAUSE SO MANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD NOT BE ACTUALLY AFFECTED. IN ADDITN, AYE FEELEY TESTIFIED THAT THE F.A.R. IS NOT BEING USED AS IT WAS INTENDED. IT WAS INTENDED FOR NONRESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. THE BONUS DENSITY IS FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. AND NONE OF THESE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPERS MENTIONED TO YOU THE FACT THAT THEY GO STILL GET THE EXCESS DENSITY THEY WANT AS LONG AS THEY USE BONUS DENSITY. THE PROBLEM IS FOR THEM IS THE BONUS DENSITY REQUIRES THEM TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THREE AMENITIES AND THAT'S GOING TO COST THEM SOME MONEY, SO AS ABBEY STATED THEY ARE TRYING TO D PROVIDING THESE DENSITIES AND GET THE BONUS DENSITY FOR FREE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF DISINGENUOUS OBJECTION HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING WE WANTED. LIKE I SAID, IT'S MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING AND I THINK THE MAYOR SUPPORTS THIS. THERE'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH ABOUT PENDING ORDINANCE, AND ORDINANCE, A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME, AND WE WANT THIS EVEN THOUGH IT'S FAR SHORT OF WHAT WE REALLY NEED. WE HAVE A PROPERTY SOON HAS THE POTENTIAL OF PUTTING 4200 APARTMENT UNITS IF THEY USE F.A.R. THAT IS MORE THAN DOUBLING THE CURRENT POPULATION OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN THAT SMALL 4.5-ACRE AREA. SO THE F.A.R. DOES HAVE AN EFFECT, AND IT'S BEING MISUSED. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO JEAN STROHMEYER. IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES MINUTES TO SPEAK. MS. STROHMEYER, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU ARE SELF-MUTED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S GO TO NUMBER 4 AND WE WILL GO BACK TO >>THE CLERK: THE NEX SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR. PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM S.IT MUST BE A TECHNICAL ISSUE. BUT SHE KNOWS AND SHE'S TRYING TO GET ON. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITIONS WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL. I ASK YOU TO INDULGE ME FOR JUST A MINUTE. I HAVE A BROKEN LEG. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME TO COME DOWN THIS EARLY IN THE MORNING. I AM NOT ABLE TO PUT THE VISUAL ON PAPER, SO JUST FOR A SECOND. WEST OF DALE MABRY IS APPROXIMATELY 4.5 SQUARE MILES. WRITE THIS DOWN. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART. SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES, 4350. APARTMENTS SINCE 2016, 4,027. 11-14-19 WAS MY FIRST APPEARANCE WITH YOU FOR MY COMMUNITY, 538 DAYS AGO. FROM 2016 UIL 11-14-2019, THERE WERE 2748 APARTMENTS APPROVED IN OUR 4.5 SQUARE MILE AREA. THAT'S 2.36 APARTMENTS PER DAY THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S 282 SQUARE UNITS PER SQUARE MILE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HERE BEFORE THAT. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE ONES ON THE FUTURE AGENDAS, THE ONES THAT THAT THE DEVELOPERS DON'T NEED TO BRING IN FRONT OF YOU, THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SUBMITTED YET. WE STILL HAVE 1200 THAT ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THIS SUMMER. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ONES WHO WERE SUBMITTED BEFORE YOU GUYS EVER SAT IN THOSE SEATS WILL LOOK LIKE. YOU TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR CULTURE. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LAWYERS ON THIS ONE. WE NEVER WANTED THIS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SOG. THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT WE ARE EXPERTS IN. WE ACCORDING TO THE RULES PRESENTED ARE THE ONLY EXPERTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE OTHER DESIGNATIONS TO BE FOR THE CITY. BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHY SOG, SOUTH OF EUCLID, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CAN'T HAVE ITS OWN DESIGNATION. WE ARE A DEAD-END. WE ARE SO UNIQUE. WE ARE ABUTTING ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DOD FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF THE AREA WITH TWO FOUR STAR COMMANDS WHICH EMPLOY 24,000 PEOPLE. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE SUPPLYING FUEL AND CHEMICALS FOR OUR WATER FACILITIES, TO A LARGE PART OF OUR REGION. WE ARE A MAIN EVACUATION ROUTE FOR PINELLAS COUNTY. YET WE ARE AREN'T CONSIDERED TO BE UNIQUE ENOUGH WITH FOCUS ON US, NOT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. THE F.A.R. IS JUST A BOX OF 48 CRAYONS THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE. THEY STILL HAVE A WHITE CRAYON, A BLACK CRAY JOB, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER 45 DOLORES. THE F.A.R. SITUATION ONLY IMPACTS THREE DEVELOPMENT AREAS, THE F.A.R. SITUATION DOESN'T IMPACT MR. CITRO'S BELOVED MIXED REVIEW, THE F.A.R. SITUATION DOESN'T TAKE THE DEVELOPERS ABILITY TO USE BONUS ABILITY, THE F.A.R. SITUATION IS SO SMALL THAT WE DON'T EVEN LIKE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.@PLE8 AND ALSO -- GO WITH GO THANK YOU. >> FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY. NUMBER 74. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE SHAUNROWN IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? >> YES. >> IS THAT A YES? >> YES, SIR. >> FIRST OFF I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP LAST YEAR. IT WAS A YEAR FROM HELL. AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING ELECTED CHAIRMAN, DEFINITELY WELL DESERVING AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO NONYOU DURING THIS TIME AS WE TALK ABOUT VARIOUS ISSUES. CERTAINLY I AM SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 8. AND FIRST OFF, I DO AGREE WITH THE OTHER STEPHANIE AND CARROLL ANN AND THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE A DELAY, WE WANT THIS ISSUE SETTLED NOW. IT'S BEEN FAR TOO LONG IN THE MAKING. THAT BEING SAID, APRIL 12TH, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME IN AT THE APRIL 15th MEETING AND IN THAT MEMO IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL FORMALLY ADOPT THE ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE, AND SO THE FACT IS THAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS FOR THIS. THE CITY HAS RECOGNIZED THE PROBLEM. MS. FEELEY TESTIFIED ON APRIL 15th THAT F.A.R. IS BEING ABUSED. SHE REFERENCED A PROJECT THAT IS OUT THERE TRYING TO GO FROM CMU-35, 35 UNITS PER ACRE LOOKING AT OVER 100 UNITS PER ACRE. AND FOR US, DOWN SOUTH OF GANDY, WE HAVE GOT POTENTIAL 36-ACRE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN SOLD TO A DEVELOPER AND THEY CAN PUT IN ALMOST 4500 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS. THEY CAN PUT 4500 APARTMENTS. IF THEY USE THE F.A.R. UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINES. THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND SO IT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IT'S TIME TO CLOSE THE LOOPHOLE THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE. THAT'S THE FACT. THE FACT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THIS FOR FREE. CLOSING A LOOPHOLE IS GOING TO COST THEM MONEY. I GET IT NO ONE LIKES TO SPEND MONEY. NO ONE LIKES TO LOSE MONEY. IN THEIR DAYS THEY WON'T LOSE MONEY, THEY JUST HAVE TO SHELL OUT A LITTLE MORE. THEY DESERVE A RIGHT TO HAVE MIXED USE AND THE THING IS THEY CAN USE F.A.R. THEY CAN USE F.A.R. IF THEY PAY EXTRA FOR BONUS DENSITY. IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. IT'S NOT STOPPING DEVELOPMENT. THIS ISN'T A MORATORIUM. NO DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO GET STOPPED. THE FACT IS THAT DEVELOPERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA MONEY. THAT'S ALL. AND THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR. THE CITY DESERVES MORE, AND IF THESE DEVELOPERS 2021 TRULY PARTNER WITH US, THEN THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO INVEST AND LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND DO IT SMARTLY AND SAFELY. AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE IN THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. BY THE WAY, I DO AGREE WITH THE IMPACT FEES. ITEM NUMBER 54. THANK YOU. GOING TO BE DAVID MECHANIK.IS- DAVID, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >>DAVID MECHANIK: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DAVID MECHANIK. VEURES, WHICH IS A PROPERTY OWNER ON RATTLESNAKE POINT, WHICH IS SOUTH OF GANDY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINTED OUE BRIEF AS WE DISCUSSED THESE ISSUES BEFORE -- BUT THERE IS SIMPLY NO FINDING OF AN MADE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THESE REGULATIONS ON AN EMERGENCY BASIS, SO ON AN MADE BASIS. CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS NEW REGULATIONS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT IS RARE, IF EVER, THAT COUNCIL IMPOSES THOSE REGULATIONS ON A SHORT TERM BASIS WHERE YOU GO THROUGH -- PROFIT. I THINK IT'S A VERY CONCERNING PRECEDENTS FOR YOU TO DO REGULATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE REGULATION THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO GO INTO EFFECT ON JUNE 1st HASN'T HAD THE FIRST HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL, AND YET THE REGULATIONS THAT YOU INTEND TO IMPOSE ON JUNE 1st AREN'T THE SAME LANGUAGE. WHO IS TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT LANGUAGE WILL BE THE SAME WHEN YOU BRING IT THROUGH THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS? THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING HEARINGS FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT IS TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, AND TO GET INPUT, AND IT'S QUITE LIKELY THAT YOU WILL BE MAKING CHANGES TO THAT LANGUAGE. SO WHY WOULD YOU IMPOSE A REGULATION ON JUNE 1st WHEN YOU. GONE THROUGH ANY PROCESS TO CONSIDER THESE AMENDMENTS? AND I WOULD JUST RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST, WHILE WE HAVE NO CONCERN ADMINISTERING THE PLAN AMENDMENT, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING THIS IN EFFECT ON JUNE 1st. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE RANDY COEN. IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >>RANDY COEN: HE I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE SCREEN TO PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT. IS IT UP? THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T SHOW THE VISUALS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT REMOTELY, COUNCIL. BUT IS HE LOGGED IN, MADAM CLERK? >> YES. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON VIDEO, I MEAN? IF YOU LOGGED IN ON VIDEO ON GO-TO MEETING. >> CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN? HELLO? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, GO AHEAD. >> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS AN EXHIBIT THAT WAS PREPARED FOR THE PLANNING -- BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON BEHALF OF A REQUEST FROM THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE. BUT YOU SEE THE PURPLE, THE PINK AND THE RED ARE ALL OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATED PARCELS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE MORATORIUM. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS INCLUDES ALL OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO THE EAST-WEST, NORTH, SOUTH, ALL OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WATERS AVENUE, ALL OF BUSCH BOULEVARD, A GOOD DEAL OF HOWLER AVENUE, A GOOD DEAL OF BUSCH BOULEVARD, I ALREADY SAID THAT, FLORIDA AVENUE, ARMENIA, GREAT PORTIONS OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY. BUT THEN THESE ROADS ARE BASICALLY ALL OF THE PRIMARY TRANSIT CORRIDORS THAT THE CITY HAS ADOPTED AND HAS BROUGHT THROUGH THE COMP PLAN TO INCREASE DENSITIES IN THESE AREAS TO SUPPORT TRANSIT. THE MORATORIUM AS PROPOSED WOULD RESULT IN ANY PARCEL BEING REZONED ON ANY O THESE CORRIDORS TO BE REDUCED IN THE DEVELOPMENT BY 15% TO 50% OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. I THINK THAT KIND OF FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IS INCONSISTENT. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS ACTION WOULD ALSO AFFECT NEW TAMPA. THIS IS THE CORE OF NEW TAMPA AND BRUCE B. DOWNS AND I-75. WOULD RESTRICT SUCH DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. MOVING DOWN TO THIS AREA, YOU CAN SEE THAT VIRTUALLY ALL OF YBOR CITY NORTH OF OR SOUTH OF 8th AVENUE WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS MORATORIUM. AS WOULD ROCKY POINT OUT IN THIS AREA WHICH IS VIRTUALLY ALL AFFECTED BY THIS MORATORIUM. WE ALSO HAVE THE FACT THAT, AS WE INDICATED BEFORE, TWO OF THE DESIGNATED AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BEING THE USF AREA AND THE WESTSHORE AREA ARE SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACTED WHICH THIS -- BY THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM. SO-SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT AS PROPOSED, THERE'S A NUMBER OF INCIDENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR MORATORIUM PROPOSAL. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS IS CONTINUED, AND FURTHER WORK, AND THAT THE FOCUS OF SOUTH OF GANDY OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, THAT THIS MORATORIUM BE LIMITED TO THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA RATHER THAN BEING A SHOTGUN APPROACH WHICH EFFECTS NUMEROUS PARCELS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND SUBSTANTIAL IMPACTS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN EVALUATED,O MY KNOWLEDGE. AND THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS ALYSSE BATSEL. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO TO NUMBER 9 AND WE'LL CIRCLE BACK. >>ELISE BATSEL: GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M SORRY. STEARNS WEAVER, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. THE MORATORIUM BEFORE YOU STARTED AS AN ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS PERCEIVED PROBLEMS SUCH AS TRAFFIC AND OTHER ISSUES SOUTH OF GANDY. MANY OF US ENCOURAGED COUNCIL VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS TO LET STAFF DO ACTUAL STUDIES TO COME UP WITH DATA TO FORM PROPER RESOLUTIONS TO ADDRES THOSE ISSUES. THIS COUNCIL DIRECTED THE LEGAL PARTNT T COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A MORATORIUM. AND IN A WAY WE HAVE BEEN ALL BEEN SPINNING OUR WHEELS EVER SINCE. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO FOLLOW YOUR INSTRUCTIONS AND TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A DEFENSIBLE ORDINANCE, SO THE SOG ISSUE HAS NOW EVOLVED INTO A CITY-WIDE MORATORIUM WITH SIGNIFICANT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. AS MR. COEN STATED THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AVENUE AREAS WHEREBY WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT ALONG INTERSECTIONS AND TRANSIT CORRIDORS. I WOULD -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO YOU VOTE ON THE CITY-WIDE MORATORIUM UP OR DOWN TODAY. IF IT DOESN'T PASS, AND STAFF COMES BACK TO YOU WITH A SOUTH OF GANDY SOLUTION, YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT ORDINANCE AT THAT TIME. BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO CONDUCT ACTUAL STUDIES AND FOR ACTUAL DATA TO DETERMINE HOW TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THE SOG I SHALL YOU HAVE. HOW CAN STAFF COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO THIS COUNCIL UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY DO THE STUDIES THAT ARE NECESSARY? FEEL FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE SPENDING MOST OF THEIR TIME IN MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THE MORATORIUM, SO THEY CAN'T GET TO THE REAL WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO REALLY COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR THE PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY. THAT'S HOW IT ALL STARTED FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN'T PROPOSE A TRAFFIC SOLUTION UNTIL A NEW SIGNALIZATION STUDY IS DONE AT THE GANDY -- PLEASE ALLOW STAFF THE TOOLS AND THE TIME TO DO THEIR JOB. OTHERWISE, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE BACK BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF ANOTHER PROPOSAL THAT AREN'T BASED ON ACTUAL DATA AND ACTUAL STUDIES. I ENCOURAGE TO YOU VOTE NO TODAY ON THE CITY-WIDE MORATORIUM AND TO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A WELL STUDIED PROPOSAL THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES ALL OF THE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT OVER AND OVER BY THE COMMUNITY SOUTH OF GANDY. THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JACOB. IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS JAK KRAMER AT STEARNS I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. I WON'T REHASH WHAT THE APPRECIATE SPEAKERS HAD TO SAY ON THE MORATORIUM. I FEEL SIMILARLY THE TO MANY OF THEM. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I FOUND MYSELF IN AGREEMENT WITH MANY OF THE SOUTH OF GANDY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD FROM WHO FROM WHAT I HEARD AGREE THAT THE DECISION NEEDED TO BE MADE TODAY. IT'S TIME TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ON THIS BAD PROPOSAL. WI THE SOUTH OF GANDYLSO AGREE COMMUNITY THAT THIS PROPOSAL DOESN'T RECOGNIZE WHAT MAKES SOUTH TAMPA AND SOUTH OF GANDY SO SPECIAL. IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE REST OF THE CITY THAT ISSUES THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH IN ONE PART OF THE CITY ARE NOW GOING TO RESTRICT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MR. COEN'S MAP WAS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HEAR A LOT AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TRANSIT IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU, WE WILL NEVER GET REAL TRANSIT IN THIS COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T SUPPORTENSITY -- WE HAVE TO PUT ON OUR BIG BOY PANTS AS A CITY AND BELIEVE IN GROWTH, AND DENSITY WILL ACTUALLY HELP US GET THERE. IT'S HARD, AND THERE WILL BE GROWING PAINS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THERE. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ALL YOU DO FOR THE CITY. CHAIRMAN, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ELECTION TODAY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >>THE CLERK: NEXT SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JENNIFER MOTSINGER. JENNIFER, IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. GO MORNG. JENNIFER MOTT SING WE ARE THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION. REPRESENTING THOSE WHO BUILD THE AMERICAN DREAM OF HOME OWNERSHIP. WHENEVER COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCE GROWTH IT'S ALWAYS -- WE HAVE SEEN THE AREA SOUTH OF GANDY AROUND WESTSHORE GROW VERY QUICKLY. ALL THAT THOUGH THAT IS TYPICAL, COUNTY BE FRUSTRATING ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA. I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE SPEAKERS THAT MORE ATTENTION CAN BE FOCUSED ON BRINGING TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ONLINE. HOWEVER, I AGAIN OPPOSE E OF MORATORIUM. A MORATORIUM SIGNALS TO MANY SEGMENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SOCIETY THAT WE CAN'T HANDLE GROWTH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, AND I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING ALL THE PECK SPES RESPECT BEFORE TAKING FINAL ACTION AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING AND I HOPE YOU ALL VERY WELL. THANK YOU. >>THE CLERK: THE LAST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE JEAN STROHMEYER. IF YOU ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME THIS TIME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> THANK GOD. I WANT TO ALSO CONGRATULATE COUNCILMAN GUDES IN YOUR APPOINTMENT AND TO THANK MR. MANISCALCO FOR HIS SERVICES IN THE PAST, AND TO CLARIFY THAT THE F.A.R. IS A PRIVILEGE AND NOT A RIGHT, AND OUR FIGHT IS NOT WITH THE MAYOR BUT ONLY FOR EVACUATION AND TRAFFIC. I WANT TO CLARIFY THOSE MATTERS AND I AM READY TO GO. MY NAME IS JEAN STROHMEYER. AND I AM PRESIDENT OF INTERBAY SOUTH OF GANDY ASSOCIATION, ITEM NUMBER 8. AS A CITIZEN, I THOUGHT OUR MEETING ON 3-26, WE HAD AN AGREEMENT AS A RESULT OF OUR SUMMIT MEETING WITH APPROXIMATELY 29 PEOPLE INCLUDING OUR GREAT SOG NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT, AS WELL AS MAYOR CASTOR, AND OUR BUILDER AND CHIEF DEVELOP, JOHN, WHO HAS BEEN ON THE OPPOSING SIDE OF THE TABLE SINCE DAY ONE. NOTHING AGAINST PROGRES BUT IT'S GOOD. IT'S NOT GOOD WHILE BEATING CITIZENS INTO SUBMISSION. OUR GOAL HAS OVERBUILDING STOCK FROM MEGA APARTMENT COMPLEXs SOUTH OF GANDY, REALLY LET THE DUST SETTLES. WE WERE TOLD THIS WAS NOT LEGAL BECAUSE WE COULD NOT SINGLE OUT OURSELVES AND NOT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. IT MAKES NO SENSE. WE ARE THE SAME BODY WITH DIFFERENT LIMBS. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DID IT AND SO DID OTHER PLACES. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN AS OF TUESDAY WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, AND THE ONLY REASON TO SPEAK TODAY WAS TO TELL OUR CITY LDERS A JOB WELL DONE. THEN ON WEDNESDAY WE FOUND OUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A DEAL. WE WERE DUMBFOUNDED, AS AN AMATEUR I AM IGNORANT IN LAND USE, AND IT APPEARS THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH THE GAME SOLES WE ARE WORKING ON. NUMBER ONE IS THE MOTION SUBMITTED BY MR. DINGFELDER, ON OUR BEHALF FOR A MORATORIUM WHICH TURNED INTO LAND USE STUDY THAT WOULD TAKE EFFECT FIRST WITH A PERMANENT SOLUTION BEING TAKENNDERY. THIS WOULD PRESUMABLY CAST ANY STRAY REQUESTS OF ZONING. NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE THE CITY VERSION WHICH IS ALSO CONSIDERED WILL BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION BY THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE COMP PLAN TO ELIMINATE F.A.R. BUT USING THE PENDING ORDINANCE. EITHER WAY, OUR GOALS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOUTH OF GANDY, NOT CITY-WIDE ELIMINATION OR ELIMINATION OF F.A.R. BUT OTHER PERSISTENT AND SYSTEM HE'S THE ITEM I CAN PROBLEMS SINCE 2007 WITH LACK OF ROADS, GAS STATIONS, RETAILS AND JOBS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANTLY SAFETY IN VEGAS EVACUATION DURING AN EMERGENCY. ING -- SHOWS WITH THE CURRENT POPULATION PEOPLE WOULD DROWN IN THEIR CARS WHILE TRYING TO EVACUATE DURING A MEERKAT GOER ONE STORM SURGE. GENTLEMEN, IT IS TIME TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>THE CLERK: YES, CHAIR THAT DOES CONCLUDE GENERAL COMMENT FOR THE AGENDA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE GENTLEMEN FOR THE HEARING, GOING TO MOVE TO WITHDRAW. I THE ATTORNEY HAS A FLIGHT HAS TO GET OUT AT 12. THE INTERPRETER. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE HEARING NUMBER 67. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 10:30 HEARINGS. MOVE TO OPEN ALL FOUR OF THE ARINGS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND FROM MR. CITRO. ANY OPPOSED? SO MOVED. ITEM NUMBER 67. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN. BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE GENTLEMAN AND THE INTERPRETER BACK ON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOWN THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF WE CAN BEGIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, BY SWEARING THE INTERPRETER, TO SWEAR -- IN SPANISH, PLEASE, MADAM CLERK. >>THE CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? (SPEAKING SPANISH) I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. INTERPRETER NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN AS WELL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>THE CLERK: PLEASE SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TRANSLATION YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN HAVE YOUR NAMES FOR THE RECORD. >> NICOLE HIGH LAND, CERTIFIED COURT INTERPRETER. MY NAME IS ANTONIO ALVAREZ. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT? I BELIEVE SHE'S ON LINE. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S' OFFICE. WE ARE HERE TO ADDRESS THE PETITION FOR REVIEW REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 67 WHICH IS DE 1-21-17 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2704 WEST KATHLEEN STREET, THE PETITIONER IS MR. ALVAREZ, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THROUGH THE INTERPRETER HE IS GOING TO REQUEST TO WITHDRAW THE REVIEW. TERPTER: YES, I COME TO WITHDRAW MY PETITION. >> MOTION TO WITHDRAW. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, CAN WE SEE THEM OH ONLINE? I DON'T SEE THEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION ON THE MOTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE, DOES HE WANT WITHDRAWN COMPLETELY, OR IS HE LOOKING TO CONTINUE IT? INTERPRETER: NO. TO COMPLETELY WITHDRAW IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO WITHDRAW IT THEN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION, MR. MIRANDA. THANK YOU. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. NO, MR. COUNCILMAN, THE CITY DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE PETITIONER WITHDRAWING THE PETITION FOR REVIEW. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UPON EXAMINATION OF THIS ADDRESS AT 3704 WEST KATHLEEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IMPROPER BUILDING BEING BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT? THERE WAS NOTHING CONCERNING RENTAL PROPERTY OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS ONLY REGARDING STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY THAT WERE BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THE CITY WHEN THESE CASES COME UP, AND NOT SPECIFICALLY ASKING THIS QUESTION ON THIS ADDRESS, DO YOU ASK THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE US? DO THEY HAVE ANY RENTAL PROPERTY THAT'S ILLEGAL? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. COUNCILMAN, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, I AM NOT SURE. I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT QUESTION IS ASKED. COMING FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN EXCEPTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO CLOSE BY MANISCALCO, SECOND BY CITRO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWING DRAWL AS REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO, SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. INTERPRETER: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 8. >>BILL CARLSON: DO I MAKE MY MOTION? LET'S HEAR FROM STAFF AND THEN GO INTO DISCUSSION AND ANY MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE. >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT. >>CAROLE POST: THIS IS CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO ALSO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR APPOINTMENT AND ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THEIR RESPECTIVE APPOINTMENTS, AND OF COURSE CHAIR MANISCALCO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP OF THE PAST YEAR. AS I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE OF THE ITEM FIRST. WE DO HAVE STAFF MEMBERS AVAILABLE AS WELL, THE SUBSTANCE OF THE ITE SHOULD IT NOT BE CONTINUED. THE MATTER BUFF, AND HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, I THINK ALL OF YOU RECOGNIZEDED SUBSTANTIALLY BEFORE COUNCIL, BEEN BEFORE COUNCIL SIX TIMES. TODAY IS THE 7th TIME THAT THIS MATTER IS COMING BEFORE COUNCIL IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. THROUGHOUT THIS TIME, THERE WERE MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, SOUTH OF GANDY STAKEHOLDERS, RESIDENTS, WE ALSO MET WITH DEVELOPERS MANY TIMES, AND ON MARCH 26th, ONE OF THOSE TIMES, IT WAS AN ALL-HANDS TYPE MEETING, AS I HEARD OTHERS REFER TO IT AS THE TOWN HALL MEETING, MAYOR CASTOR, CHAIR GUDES, I THINK SOMEWHAT AT YOUR SUGGESTION IN MARCH. AT THE DISCUSSION ON MARCH 26, THIS DISCUSSION ACTUALLY RESULTED IN AN ALTERNATE APPROACH WHICH WAS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THE F.A.R. ISSUE, DEALING WITH THE MORATORIUM. AND THAT PROPOSAL AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE MORATORIUM WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 1st. ON APRIL 1st, STAFF PRESENTED AND RECOMMENDED THAT ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION, WHICH WAS TO -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, PERMANENTLY ADDRESSED THE F.A.R. ON THAT DAY, COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION, AND THAT PROCESS IS NOW UNDERWAY. THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IN PROCESS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT ALSO ON THAT DAY, AFTER ADOPTION OF THAT COMP PLAN RESOLUTION COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AGAIN ASKED TO BRING FORWARD AN INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT, WHICH WE HEARD REFERRED TO AS A NONMORATORIUM-MORATORIUM. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THAT MOTION IS AND REMAINS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT RESOLUTN ADOPTED THAT DAY TO REMAIN UNDERWAY. BUT APRIL 15th, IN RESPONSE TO THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE REQUEST, STAFF RETURNED TO COUNCIL WITH A DRAFT OF THAT ORDINANCE FOR DISCUSSION, AND COUNCIL THAT DAY VOTED FOR STAFF TO BRING IT BACK IN A FORMAT FOR FIRST READING, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. THAT ORDINANCE HAS BEEN SENT TO COUNCIL AS REQUESTED. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, THOUGH, THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER DISCUSSISLANN WITH THE COMMUNITY OR ANY OTHER STAKEHOLDERS EITHER PLANNED OR ANTICIPATED ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER. I BELIEE THE MEETING THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON REFERRED TO EARLIER THIS MORNING IS A STAFF AND COMMUNITY MEETING AS A FOLLOW-UP THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE MARCH TOWN HALL. AT THAT TOWN HALL MEETING, THE MAYOR COMMITTED FOR STAFF TO HAVE CONTINUING FOLLOW-UP ON A NUMBER OF RELATED MATTERS, THAT JEAN TALKED ABOUT, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, GENERAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND EVACUATION RESPONSE. AND AS SUCH, THOSE ARE BEING PLANNED. THE ONE IN QUESTION IS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 15th AND REITERATE THAT IS NOT A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE MORATORIUM OR ANY OTHER SOLUTION RELATED INTERIM DEVELOPMENT. TO CONCLUDE, WE ARE NOT FOR THE CONSEQUENCE ANSWER OF THIS MATTER TODAY. WE PREFER TO CONCLUDE THE MATTER R ANOTHER TODAY. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE PLAN WE AGREED TO WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT TO INITIATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT SERVES AS OUR STRATEGIC AND CONCLUSIVE APPROACH TO CITY PLANNING, THE APPROPRIATE METHOD TO ADDRESS THE F.A.R. ISSUE. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IT IS JUST ONE OF MANY EFFORTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY TO ADDRESS RELATED GROWTH MANAGEMENT MATTERS. I WOULD BE HAPPY T TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS A HOT TOPIC. BEFORE I TAKE ANY MOTION, I WANT TO GO WITH DISCUSSIONS FIRST, AND AFTER DISCUSSIONS WE'LL DEAL WITH THE MOTION. SO I THINK MR. CARLSON WAS FIRST. I SAW HIS HAND. AND MR. DINGFELDER. AND MR. CITRO. MR. VIERA. >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN TERMS OF COMMENTS, AS MS. POST SAID, ALTHOUGH THE MEETING NEXT FRIDAY MAY HAVE BEEN SET UP FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE, I AM CERTAIN THAT SOG LEADERS WILL TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES. JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD, WE SAID, I THINK, PRETTY ADAMANTLY WE DID NOT WANT A MORATORIUM, WHATEVER THE LEGAL TERM IS. SAID WE DIDN'T WANT A MORATORIUM. THEN STAFF CAME BACK WITH THIS NARROW VIEW, AND THEN SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS PUSHING THE IDEA OF MORATORIUM. AND IT APPEARS TO BE FROM THE COMMENT THIS MORNING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S DOING IT. BUT YET IT'S THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S SAYING WE DON'T WANT THE WORD MORATORIUM TO G OUT BECAUSE THE LARGER INVESTMENT COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO INVEST IN TAMPA BECAUSE OF IT SO THE EASY SOLUTION IS TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. IF YOU WANT TO SCARE INVESTORS OFF, TALK ABOUT PUT A LABEL ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ACCURATE, OR ISN'T EXACTLY ACCURATE. NUMBER TWO, THE SOUTH OF GANDY LEADERS WHO I HAVE MET WITH, MANY, MANY TIMES, AND I AM SURE YOU ALL DO, I TALK TO THEM ALMOST DAILY, THEY NEVER ASKED FOR A CITY-WIDE THING. THEY EVEN SAID AGAIN THIS MORNING THEY DOESN'T WANT A CITY-WIDE SOLUTION. AND WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES COMING UP. ONE IS THE LONG-TERM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT BUT THIS ONE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PUTS IT INTO EFFECT IMMEDIATELY. YES, I THINK MR. DINGFELDER IS THE ONE WHO MADE THE MOTION ON THIS. SO TECHNICALLY, YES, IT IS A REQUEST OF COUNCIL, BUT WHAT COUNCIL ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY WAS A SOUTH OF GANDY SOLUTION. AND THIS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT. NONE OF US TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAD EVER SAID WE WANT TO BE TAKE -- WE WANTED TO TAKE AWAY THE F.A.R. BONUS. AND WE ALSO DID NOT -- SO PUT ALL THE EXCEPTIONS AND EVERYTHING. THAT CAME FROM STAFF. THE QUESTION THAT I POSED TO STAFF MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST YEAR, REALLY, IS WHAT COULD BE THE SOLUTION? I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M NOT A LAND USE LAWYER. I TALK TO A BUNCH OF THEM I.DOWNTOWN KNOW WHAT THE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS EVER R. THE COMMUNITY HAS GIVEN US IDEAS. I TALKED TO LAND USE ATTORNEYS WHO GIVE IDEAS TO US. AND I HAVE HAD THREE OR FOUR LAND USE ATTORNEYS CALL ME THE LAST TWO DAYS AND SAY THERE ARE SOUTH OF GANDY OPTIONS, WHY IS STAFF NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM? I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH LEGAL YESTERDAY AND IS HE SHE HAD THEY LOOKED AT THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S TRUE AND WATTS WHAT'S NOT BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A SOUTH OF GANDY SOLUTION THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT WOULD MORE DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF SOUTH GANDY. THEY ARE NOT HAPPY AS I SAID WITH THIS SOLUTION ANYWAY. THE PEOPLE IN THE REST OF THE CITY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH IT. AND I THINK SINCE THERE IS A MEETING COM COMING OUT FRIDAY I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND DELAY IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO LOOK AT THAT. I AM VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HE SAID SHE SAID AROUND THIS AND ITEEMSO BE TOO POLITICAL. AND I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT DIRECTIONS I HAVE SEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IN RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COUNCIL AND STAFF AS BECOMING MORE POLITICAL. AND I ASKED CHIEF OF STAFF IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE COLLEGIAL ENVIRONMENT. MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE NOT SENSED THIS. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL DID NOT PROPOSE. WE MAY END UP APPROVING IT TODAY. BUT WHAT WE ASKED FOR AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR IS A SOUTH OF GANDY SOLUTION THAT WILL FIX THE SOUTH OF GANDY PROBLEMS. >>LANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. A GOOD ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE HAVE BEEN. I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH MS. POST IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY BUT I AM NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL HINDSIGHT, WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AND I AM NOT GOING TO GO THERE. WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. I DO AGREE WITH WHAT MR. CARLSON SAID, THAT THIS HOLISTIC CITY-WIDE APPROACH IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR. THISS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN SORT OF PUSHED IN A DIRECTION, AND I HAVE CALLED IT A POISON PILL, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A POISON PILL THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO US, AND THAT WAS PROVEN TO ME TODAY WHEN DEVELOPERS SAY, GO AHEAD AND VOTE IT UP OH ARE DOWN. WELL, GUESS WHAT, THEY ARE COUNTING HEADS. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COUNT HEADS. BUT THEY ARE COUNTING HEADS. AND THEY COUNTED HEAD, THEY MADE THEIR PHONE CALLS AROUND THIS DAIS. THEY DON'T CALL ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHERE I STAND. BUT THEY CALLED AROUND THIS DAYIES AND THEY COUNTED HEADS. BUT THAT'S IRRELEVANT.% WHAT'S MORE RELEVANT IS WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU TODAY. AND I PROVID THI DOCUMENT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. SHELBY, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RECEIVED IT THIS MORNING BY MR. GALER AND THE CLERK HAS A COPY. AND WHAT THIS ONE-PAGE DOCUMENT SPEAKS TO IS THIS IS DIRECTLY OUT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I HOPE EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF IT AND LOOKED AT IT. AND SPECIFICALLY, I LOOK OVER TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IN THE YELLOW AREA, AND IT SAYS THE FOLLOWING ROAD CORRIDORS HAVE A SERIES OF MIXED USES ALONG THEM. AND THEN IT SPEAKS TO ALL THOSE HIGHWAYS AND MAJOR ROADS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY THAT RANDY COEN SPOKE TO. DALE MABRY, GANDY, ARMENIA, HOWARD FLORIDA NEBRASKA MLK COLUMBUS 40th 50th ADAMO, PART OF ADAMO, BUSCH BOULEVARD HILLSBOROUGH FOWLER FLETCHER, BRUCE B. DOWNS, KENNEDY WESTSHORE WESTSHORE NORTH OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD. AND THEN THE NEXT LINE IS CRITICAL. THESE ROADWAYS ARE TRANSIT SUITABLE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND INTENSIFICATION. THAT'S WHAT THE USE OF THE F.A.R. IS. THE USE. F.A.R. IS INTENSIVEIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WHY DO D I GIVE YOU THIS? OKAY, I GAVE YOU THIS SO WE CAN MODIFY THE ORDINANCE, AND I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE, SO WE CAN MODIFY THE ORDINANCE AND HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO US THIS AFTERNOON TO EXCLUDE ANY PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, AND WALKING DISTANCE HAS BEEN DEFINED AS ONE QUARTER MILE, OKAY, ONEUART MILE WALKING, THE WALKING PATH OF ONE QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM ANY OF THESE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS. I DIDN'T COME UP WITH THIS BY MYSELF LAST NIGHT. I CALLED ONE OF OUR CITY PLANNERS AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS, TO FOCUS THIS ON WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED. OKAY? THIS STILL LEAVES SOME OPPORTUNITY, ACTUALLY, SOUTH OF GANDY, INCLUDING DALE MABRY HIGHWAY. THE POSSIBILITY IF THERE'S SOME PROPERTY THAT WANTS TOOME IN FOR REZONING WITHIN A QUARTER MILE WALKING DISTANCE, ON EITHER SIDE OF DALE MABRY HIGHWAY ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, SO BE IT. BUT NOW WHAT? DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND GANDY BOULEVARD ARE BOTH MAJOR ROADS. AND GANDY IS IMPROVED EVEN MORE SO. THEY ARE MAJOR ROADS, AND AS ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS SPOKE TO EVENTUALLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR TRANSIT ON ALL OF THESE ROAD. SO I AGREE, AS MUCH AS I HIGHLIGHT TO SAY IT, I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW ATTORNEYS WHO CALLED IN TODAY AND SAID WE% SHOULDN'T BE THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER. BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. AND ESPECIALLY INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT. INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT USED IN THIS F.A.R. SHOULD NOT BE USED IN INAPPROPRIATE PLACES. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHENEVER YOU GET AROUND TO ASKING FOR A MOTION -- AND BILL, I THINK THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHERE YOU ARE GOING, AT LEAST I HOPE SO, BECAUSE THIS WILL LIMIT THE PROPOSED INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE SIGNIFICANTLY. THIS WILL TAKE AWAY THE IMPACT OF THIS ORDINANCE ON ALL OF THESE ROADS THAT ARE CALLED TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS. THAT'S WHERE I AM HEADED. I DON'T WANT TO DELAY BELABOR THIS BEYOND TODAY I WOULD ASK US TO DO A MOTION TO DIRECT LEGAL TO INCORPORATE THIS IDEA IN THIS ORDINANCE AND VOTE THAT UP OR DOWN THIS AFTERNOON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON INTEREST POINT WHEN THIS FIRST CAME OUT THE TWO REASONS THAT WERE GIVEN WAS BECAUSE OF HIGH COASTAL HAZARD AND BECAUSE OF EVACUATION TIMING. AT THAT POINT OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY SUCH AS PALMETTO SAID, WELL, WHAT ABOUT US? THOSE TWO SITUATIONS, HIGH COASTAL HAZARD, EVACUATION TIME, HAVE TO DO WITH SEVERAL PARTS OF OUR CITY. SO WE CAN'T JUST CARVE OUT ONE AREA. MR. GOERS IS GOING TO BE BRINGING TO US A STUDY THAT WE GOT A GRANT ON, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS. THIS STUDY WILL REVEAL EXACTLY WHAT THIS ORDINANCE MAY OR MAY NOTEED TO BE DONE IN THIS CITY. I WOULD PREFER TO WAIT ON THAT REPORT COMING BACK. THIS ORDINANCE WILL TAKE AWAY ONE OF THE GREATEST STRENGTHS THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS, AND THAT'S TO HEAR THE BURDEN OF PROOF CASE BY CASE BY CASE BY CASE. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THAT REPORT HAS TO SAY. THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APECIATE THAT, S. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING BACK AND FORTH, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHOICES THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER AS MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, WHICH IS DO WE SUPPORT MORATORIUM OR AN EQUIVALENT? I HAVE MADE MY MOTION KNOWN ON. THAT DO WE SUPPORT THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS? I THINK THAT WE ALL DO. I KNOW THAT I CERTAINLY DO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I PROMISED TO THE COMMUNITIES FROM DAY ONE, AND DO WE SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT HAS IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT SEEMED TO HAVE AT LEAST GOTTEN TO FIRST BASE FROM CITY COUNCIL LAST TIME 4-3, AND WHATNOT? I SUPPORT THE CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS A DELIBERATIVE PROCESS AND WHATNOT THAT TAKES US INTO THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT IS DELIBERATIVE AND ALLOWS US TO CONSIDER ADEQUATELY AND WITH GREAT MEASURED CARE ALL OF THE STEPS THAT CAN GO, AND WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF IT, WHAT'S THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF IT. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE A MORATORIUM. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE ON THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO GO, AS I HAVE SAID MANY, MANY TIMES, THE BUDGET PROCESS, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND A LITTLE COIN HAS HAS BRICK AND MORTAR LINCOLN ON IT, THE PENNY, THE PENNY SALES TAX, SUPPORTED ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION. I WAS PROUD TO ENDORSE THAT AND I HOPE THAT IN 2022 WE CAN GET THAT BACK ON THE BALLOT. THERE IS NO GREATER FRIEND TO HAVING GOODROGRS FOR COMUNITY WIDE SOUTH OF GANDY, AND MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES, THAN MASS TRANSIT AND HAVING THOSE ROBUST TRANSPORTATION RELATED INVESTMENTS THAT THIS WOULD DO. WITH REGARDS TO OUR FRIEND COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION, MY POSITION IS THAT ON THIS NARROWLY TAILORED ISSUE, WE SHOULD SEE WHERE WE STAND ON IT TODAY. IF IT GOES FORWARD, FINE F.NOT, BUT HAVING ANOTHER COMPROMISE, WHETHER COUNCILMAN CARLSON LEADS IT OR COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER LEADS IT, HE DON'T THINK HAS ANY RELATIONSHIP TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON JUNE 1st AS WE SEE IT TODAY. SO JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATION I HAVE HEARD. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP THE WAY IT WAS. HOWEVER, I HAVE AN IDEA, AND THIS IS THE RATIONALE THAT I I HAVE COME UP WITH. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF IT'S DONE NOT ON A CITY-WIDE BASIS, JU A LOCALIZED AREA, THAT I THEY MAY BE CONSIDERED BY THE LAWYERS TO BE NOT THE RIGHT WAY OR CONSTITUTIONAL WAY TO DO IT. OOH I AM JUST SAYING THAT'S WAY THINK. I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYONE REGARDING IT. AND I HEARD ALSO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS SAY THAT FOR MY BREAD AND BUTTER, I DO NOT HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANYONE ON THIS SIDE, OR THIS SIDE. NOT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND NOT THE GOOD PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SAY IT, GOD BLESS THEM. IN FACT YOU DON'T SEE NO CELL PHONEITH ME I.ADOPT TEXT ANYBODY WHEN I AM IN A MEETING AND NOBODY TEXTS ME. PERIOD. AND I HAVE DONE THAT MY WHOLE LIFE. ONE DAY I MADE A MISTAKE WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN YEARS AGO AND I WILL BE -- AND I HAD A PHONE AND IT RANG. BUT IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE PHONE ON ME IT COULD HAVE RANG ALL IT WANTED. SO IT WAS MY MISTAKE FOR BRINGING THE PHONE IN. I ALWAYS TELL MY GRANDKIDS THIS. IF YOU DRINK, YOU ARE LIABLE TO GET A DUI. IF YOU DON'T DRINK YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO GET A DUI. AND GUESS WHAT. I YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE AN ALCOHOLIC. BUT IT'S YOUR CHOICE. DO WHAT YOU WANT. I DON'T TELL THEM NOT TO DRINK. BUT WHAT I AM DOING NOW IS TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGISTICS OF A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION. DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THERE? YES. IS IT TRAFFIC? YES. HOWEVER, HOW DO WE GET HERE? COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. REALLY? THERE IS NO TRANSPORTATION. WHY? BECAUSE EVERY TIME THERE'S AN EXPRESSWAY BUILT AND YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, THE NEXT THING THEY DO IS EXPAND IT. A YEAR LATER, THAT IS EXTINCT. SO THEY HAVE TO SPEND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OP INSTEAD OF BUILDING, EXPANDING THE EXPRESSWAY, BUT BUILD TRANSPORTATION THE RIGHT WAY. I AM NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE GOOD PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, BUT IF WE HAD GOT THAT MONEY AND PUT IN THE TRAINS AND BUSES, WE MAY NOT BE IN T SITUATION WE ARE IN TODAY. IN THE FIFTIES, WE HAD 50-SOME MILES OF STREETCARS. HOW MANY WE GOT NOW? NONE. OTHER THAN THE STREETCAR THAT WE PUT IN UNDER THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION, WILL 11 MAILS, I THINK. AND IT WENT FROM DOWNTOWN A YOU WILL THE WAY AROUND CHANNELSIDE INTO YBOR CITY AND BACK. HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? IT'S BY WORKING OUT AND HAVING A COMPLEX SITUATION, WORK WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF WHAT WE HAVE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS GOT TO BE INVOLVED, THE CITIZENS HAVE TO BE INVOLVED, BUT TO SAY TODAY TO GO AND DO THIS, IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM WHEN YOU SAY I AM GOING TO HAVE IN A CONSTRUCTION IN THIS AREA, NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE KNOW, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE IN THAT WE DON'T KNOW. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE DOCUMENTATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS THING DOESN'T BITE THE DUST. I'M NOT AGAINST THEEOPL IN SOUTH TAMPA. AND I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE WHO BROUGHT THIS UP. BUT HAS TO BE A CONCENTRATED EFFORT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE LAW, NOT WHAT I WANT, WHAT THE LAW SAYS I CAN DO. AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE VERY TROUBLING WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AND SIT DOWN AND SAY I AM GOING TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP. HOWEVER, YOU ARE LIMITED IN WHAT YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO HELP BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SITUATIONS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED UNTIL YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT COMES LIKE IT IS TODAY. SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIS,OT AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT AGAINST TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT THEY CAN'T SOLVE THEMSELVES. WHY DO YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT? I HEARD PEOPLE SAY. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DON'T BUILD A DAMN THING UNLESS IT'S NEEDED. THINK OF WHAT I JUST SAID. IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WASN'T GROWING WOULD WE HAVE TALL BUILDINGS? I DON'T THINK SO. IF THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS AT A STANDSTILL, WOULD YOU HAVE THE NEED FOR TRANSPORTATION? I DON'T THINK SO. YOU NEED TRANSPORTATION, AND IT'S KNOW IT THAT I WANT TO DEVELOP, IT'S NOT THAT THE CITY WANTS TO DEVELOP, THE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE. OF MY EIGHT GRANDCHILDREN, SIX HAVE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE SO FAR. ALL SIX OF THEM HAVE COME BACK TO TAMPA. TWO MORE PLAN TO STAY HERE. YOU COULDN'T DO THAT 15, 20 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY. [BELL SOUNDS] >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN STOP RIGHT NOW. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO MAKE A FEW COMMES B IT'S GOING ON 12:00. AND CTDV WANTS TO DO THEIR THING, AND THE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR AS WELL. SO WE NEED TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12 GENTLEMEN. I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT I WANT TO TRY TO MOVE THIS ALONG. WE HAVE A BUSY AGENDA TODAY. BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM. AND THIS IS THE OLD POLICEMAN TALKING. WHAT IS GUIDING WAY CALL THE PROCESS IS MEY. MONEY POWER. I DON'T KNOW THE WORD MORATORIUM, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE PAPER SAID MORATORIUM. THIS BOARD NEVER SAID, AFTER WE CAME BACK MAKING DECISIONS, TALKING ABOUT MORATORIUM. SO MR. CARLSON WOULD BE RIGHT. SO HERE COMES THAT INFECTION. WHERE IT CAME FROM, NOW WE GOT EVERYBODY SAY, OH, WE GOT TO STOP THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE DEVELOPERS AREN'T GOING TO COME HERE AND SPEND MONEY, THIS AND THAT. I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE RULES, MR. CITRUS, GOT ALL THIS MESS GOING ON. IT'S WHAT IT IS. ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION. BUT I AM GOING TO BE CANDID WITH YOU. HAD WE HAD THOSE COMPROMISES WITH OTHER INDIVIDUAL, WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT MONEY THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN BANKING ON FOR DECADES AND SAYING, SOMETHING THEY AIN'T GOT. GOT TO COMPROMISE SOMETIMES. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY SO WE COULDN'T COMPROMISE TO HAVE ALFOR TRANSPORTATION TO START BUILDING ROADS, START DOING WHATEVER WE NEED, POTHOLES, WHATEVER WE GOT ON, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPROMISE. THINGS WOULD HAVE ALREADY -- OTHER COUNTIES ALREADY HAVE THE SITUATION. THE COURTS ALREADY RULED. I LOOK AT THIS SITUATION HERE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOUTH OF GANDY. SOMEONE HAS YET TO TELL ME HOW CAN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR A CERTAIN AREA BUT WE CAN'T D THAT? AND I'M NOT A LAND USE LAWYER. IT'S STILL NEW TO ME. I'M STILL LEARNING, THE CODES, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT SOMEBODY ELSE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S A HIGHER POWER THAN YOU BUT YET WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING. I STILL DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION ON THAT. THEY ARE SAY SAME BOARD AS WE ARE, SAME LAND USE, I'M SURE THE SAME TYPE OF CODE, THE COUNTY PER SE, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT WE CAN'T DO SOMETHING. SOUTH OF GANDY, WITH DEVELOPERS, SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO MAKE IT PERFECT YET.@WE HAVE ALREADY PUT STEPS TO GO DO IT PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET THE WORK DONE. IN JANUARY, FROM THE CALCULATION. PERIOD. SO SOMEBODY MAY BE UPSETTING BUT DON'T TELL ME THE CITY IS GOING TO STOP GROWING AND NO ONE IS GOING TO COME HERE AND ALL THAT STUFF. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE BIT. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME HERE. SO LET STO TRYING TO USE OUR MUSCLE AND MONEY TO DO THINGS. AND LET'S TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND SOUTH OF GANDY. SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE DISAPPOINTED BUT LET'S MAKE THAT DISAPPOINTMENT AS LESS PAINFUL AS WE CAN. LEGAL SHOULD BE ASKING THE COUNTY WHAT DO THEY DO, HOW DO THEY DO IT, BUT THEN, MR. DINGFELDER, THIS GREAT WORK HAS COME UP, AND I TALK TO LAND USE PEOPLE. INTENSIFY THOSE -- YOU ARE RIGHT. THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD B YOU A. HERE IT IS. MR. MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT THE RULES AND CODES. MR. DINGFELDER HAS COME UP AND GIVEN IT TO US. HERE IT IS. WE CAN'T ARGUE THE POINT. I MEAN, IT SAYS IT HERE. UNTIL WE CAN COME UP WITH AN IDEA, CONSIDERABLE TO ALL. MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE LAST WORD. THE OFFICE OF LEGAL STAFF AND OTHER STAFF, ESPECIALLY MS. FEELEY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR PUTTING ALL THE HARD WORK INTO THIS JUST TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK EVERYONE HAS SAID THEIR PIECE. IF THERE ARE ANY MOTIONS TO BE PUT ON THE TABLE I WILL ACCEPT THEM NOW. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CARLSON HAD THE FIRST MOTION BUT I WILL BE GLAD TO GO SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: IT SOUND LIKE IT WILL BE QUICKLY DENIED BUT I O DELAY THIS FOR TWO WEEKS GEORGIA DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY MR. CARLSON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL SECOND IT FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION. EVERYBODY DESERVES A VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER HAS SECONDED THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR? ROLL CALL? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SORRY. IF I MAY, WHEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SOND IT, SAID EVERYONE DESERVES A VOTE, YOU WILL FIGHT FOR SOMEONE'S RIGHT TO BE HEARD, SO THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. MR. SHELBY. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RESPECTFULLY NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO. >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VOTING NO.XCEPT FOR CARLSON >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AS I STATED EARLIER, I PROVIDED THE TWO DOCUMENTS THIS MORNING. ONE IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS IN FRONT OF US ON ITEM 8. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS SPECIFICALLY I DON'T WANT TO CALL THIS OUT, MR. SHELBY SUGGESTED I DO SO, SPECIFICALLY LAND USE POLICY 5.1.9, WHICH IN THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW AREAS IDENTIFIES THE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS, AND I READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD BEFORE DALE MABRY THROUGH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, NORTH OF KENNEDY. I'M SPECIFICALLY MAKING REFERENCE TO THOSE. AND MR. MIRANDA, I PROBABLY WASN'T CLEAR BEFORE. WHAT I AM SAYING HERE IS THAT THE ORDINANCE -- I WANT STAFF TO TAKE A FEW HOURS UNTIL THIS AFTERNOON TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AND THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN ONE QUARTER WALKING DISTANCE -- AND I SAY WALKING DISTANCE, NOT AS THE CROW FLIES BUT WALKING DISTANCE -- FROM THESE MAJOR STREETS, THESE MAJOR ROADWAYS, THESE MAJOR TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON HERE. SO THE FLIP SIDE IS, ANY PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THESE TRANSIT ORIENTED, TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS COULD GO FORWARD USING THE F.A.R. AS INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THEY ARE ON TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS, BUT THE OTHER SIDE IS, LET'S NOT ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN THESE F.A.R. REMOVED PLACES. AND IT'S NOT JUST SOUTH OF GANDY, BUT THERE ARE SOME OTHER FAR REMOVED PLACES THAT ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE TRANSIT EVER, AND THEY DON'T DESERVE TO USE THOSE F.A.R. NUMBERS. THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY MOTION. FITS NOT CLEAR PLEASE ASK ME. AND MY MOTION IS TO ASK STAFF TO MAKE A SIMPLE, A SIMPLE ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE, WHI IS TO EXEMPT ANY PROJECTS WITHIN -- THAT ARE CALLED OUT WITHIN THAT LAND USE POLICY 5.1.9. >>BILL CARLSON: AND I WILL SECOND IT SINCE HE SECONDED MINE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CARLSON SECONDED IT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>BILL CARLSON: DID YOU TALK TO THE SOG LADIERS? BECAUSE GANDY, I THINK THEY WOULD NOTE LIKE GANDY AND DALE MABRY INCLUDED IN THIS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I TALKED TO THEM YESTERDAY GENERICALLY ABOUT TRYING NOT TO DO THE WHOLE CITY, OKAY? AND SO THEN I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA. I KNOW THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THRILLED ABOUT INCLUDING GANDY AND DALE MABRY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY ALL THE TIME. WE CAN'T PLEASE ALL THE DEVELOPERS ALL THE TIME, AND I CAN'T PLEASE MY GOOD FRIEND SOG ALL THE TIME. >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T SEE 7th AVENUE. AM I MISSING IT? IS YBOR IN THERE? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT SAYS ADAMO DRIVE. I THINK YBOR IN SOME WAYS IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY. >> ARTERIAL ROADS. >>BILL CARLSON: THERE'S ALSO THE REQUEST -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ALLOWED TO USE F.A.R. IN YBOR, BILL. AND STAFF CAN CLARIFY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA -- YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. I SAW YOUR HAND. >>CAROLE POST: I THINK THIS DISCUSSION ALONE I THINK IS EVIDENCE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN TWO HOURS WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING AND BANTERING BACK AND FORTH. IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. I ASSURE YOU ALL THAT WE CAN PREPARE A LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE IN THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO I THINK IT IT WOULD BE WISE TO MOVE FORWARD UP OR DOWN ON THE ORDINANCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. I THINK THAT MR. DINGFELDER'S POINTS AND THE POINTS RAISED BY MR. COEN ARE GOOD ONES AS FAR AS THE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS GO, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH RESPT TO THE PERMANENT COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE UNDERWAY THAT THEY LOOK AT EXEMPTING THOSE AREAS ON A PERMANENT BASIS. AND ALLOWING USE OF THE F.A.R. THERE. I THINK THAT'S -- I THINK MR. DINGFELDER DID SOMETHING HE'S ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT DOING, ON AN INTERIM BASIS, ALLOWING MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT ON A TRANSIT ORIENTED CORRIDOR. I DON'T THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF HOURS WITH SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REAL CLEAR AT THIS STAGE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN? I WILL RESPECT MS. GRIMES REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME. I AM NOT VERY INTERESTED IN GIVING ANYBODY AN ADDITIONAL YEAR, BECAUSE THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS AND OTHER FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT JUST SOUTH OF GANDY. WE HAVE BEEN GETTING HUNDREDS OF E-MAILS FROM FOLKS ALL ACROSS THE CITY ON THE OVERINTENSIFICATION OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY. SO IT'S NOT JUST SOG. BUT WL RES REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL TIME, AND SORT OF BIG I PACK ON MR. CARLSON'S MOTION EARLIER MOTION, BUT WITH MORE SPECIFICITY THAT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, STAFF, WE WOULD REQUEST STAFF TO RESPOND AND COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD INCORPORATE WHAT I JUST SAID. AND I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID. SO INSTEAD OF MY MOTION TO COME BACK -- CAN I FINISH? INSTEAD OF MY MOTION TO COME BACK AFTER LUNCH, MY MOTION WOULD BE TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS. AND I THINK TWO WEEKS IS PLENTY OF TIME FOR THEM TO INCLUDE THE VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE THAT I SAID, AND IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, I WILL DO IT MYSELF, THE VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE I SAID MODIFYING THIS ORDINANCE. >>GINA GRIMES: I HAVE A QUESTION. ISN'T THAT THE SAME AS JUST CONTINUING IT? I THOUGHT THAT MOTION WAS JUST VOTED DOWN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S CONTINUING IT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. MR. CARLSON'S MOTION, I WILL RESPECTFULLY REPEAT IT, WAS TO CONTINUE IT TO ALLOW STAFF TO CONVERT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ET CETERA. MY MOTION IS MUCH MORE SPECIFIC, MS. GRIMES, WITH A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE INCLUSION TO COME BACK FOR FIRST READING WITH THAT LANGUAGE INCLUDED. AND I SAY IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO RECOMMEND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A YEAR FROM NOW, THEN IT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO INCLUDE IN OUR TEMPORARY ORDINANCE. >>GINA GRIMES: I HAVE TO DEGREE, POSTPONING IT FOR TWO WEEKS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE WOULD RESOLVE EVERYONE'S ISSUES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR. BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR. GUDES IN THAT AT THE END, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMEONE WHO IS UNHAPPY WITH ALL OF THIS SO I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS TRYING VERY HARD TO PLEASE EVERYONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS WITH A MODIFIED VERSION IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL JUST SAY ONE FINAL THING. WE CAN'T SOLVE EVERYTHING. WE WOULD HAVE TO GO ON A PARCEL BY PARCEL BASIS ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY TO TRY TO SOLVE EVERYTHING. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A COUNCIL THAT DOES NOTHING, THE COUNCIL THAT DOESN'T RESPOND TO THESE E-MAILS THAT ARE COMING AT US RIGHT AND LEFT. THERE'S 15 E-MAILS TODAY ALONE. IF THERE'S 10 E-MAILS FROM DEVELOPERS ATTORNEYS, BUT THERE'S 50 E-MAILS FROM REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE EVACUATION ISSUES FACING US TODAY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL RESTATE MY MOTION, IF I GET A SECOND, IF I GET A VOTE, WHATEVER. MY MOTION IS COME BACK FROM TWO READING WITH THE EXACT SAMEST ORDINANCE BUT TO INCLUDE AND MAKE REFERENCE TO LAND USE POLICY 5 MONTE 1.9 AND EXCLUDE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN ONE QUARTER MILE OF THE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS OF LAND USE POLICY 5.1.9. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND DOES THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION AGREE WITH THE RESTATEMENT? >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>CAROLE POST: IT'S CAROLE POST, ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. I RESPECT COUNCIL AND THE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER IS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE COMPETING INTERESTS. I THINK WE ALL HAVE BEEN, CERTAINLY RESPECT THE CONTINUED EFFORTS. I WOULD JUST REMIND COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS THREE TIMES NOW IN TERMS OF GOING BACK, GOING BACK TO THE CITY, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S ISSUES AND NAVIGATE AND FINE TUNE THE LANGUAGE, AND WHILE I AGREE, WE WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, I FEEL LIKE SPENDING ANOTHER TWO WEEKS, WE WILL LIKELY END UP WHERE WE STARTED, WHICH IS A SOLUTION THAT HAS PERHAPS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF OUR ACHILLES HEEL EACH TIME WE THINK WE HAVE A WORKABLE SOLUTION WILL RESULT IN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. AND I WOULD FINALLY OFFER THAT. THIS IS NOT A COUNCIL THAT DOES NOTHING. THE COUNCIL ADOPTED, ITS A RESOLUTION ON APRIL 1st, PROCEEDED FASTER THAN NORMAL ACTUALLY WITH A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT TO PERMANENTLY ADDRESS THE F.A.R., WHICH IS WHAT THE SOUTH OF GANDY NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES REQUESTED US TO DO DURING THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HALL MEETING, AND MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WAS REPRESENTED THERE THAT DAY AGREED WITH IT, RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S JUST ONE STEP OF MANY, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP, AND IT IS ALSO A STEP THAT IS A DELIBERATE MEASURED PROCESS THAT HAS FULL THROATED COMMUNITY AND OUTREACH ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND FEEDBACK, SO THAT IT CAN BE FINE TUNED OVER TIME SO I JUST OFFER THAT FOR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MS. POST. THE REALITY IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE ELIMINATING F.A.R. IN THESE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS. THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING INTENSE GROWTH. THOSE ARE THE AREAS UP AND DOWN KENNY BOULEVARD AND SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES WHERE WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING THE DENSITY, AND THAT WAY THE DENSITIES GO DOWN WHERE IT SHOULDN'T BE, IN PLACES THAT ARE REMOTE AND CAUSE TRAFFIC AND EVACUATION ISSUES AND OTHER CONSEQUENCES THAT WE DON'T WANT. AND MS. POST, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW HOW WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING DENSITY ALONG THESE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS. SO I THINK WE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING, THAT IN THE SHORT TERM, YOU ARE SAYING IT IN THE LO-TER BECAUSE I KNOW OVER THE NEXT YEAR PEOPLE INCLUDING YOURSELVES ARE GOING TO SAY, NOW WHAT? LET'S ELIMINATE F.A.R. IN SOME PLACES BUT NOT OTHER PLACES AND THESE WHAT I AM SAYING EXCEPT I AM SAYING LET'S DO IT IN THE SHORT TERM, TOO, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THESE PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO COME IN FOR REZONING, THEY ARE GOING TO STICK THEIR CAMEL'S NOSE UNDER THE TENT AND COME IN FOR REZONING NOW. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THIS TYPE OF INTERIM DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE, TO PREVENT THAT IN AREAS THAT ARE INAPPROPRIATE. THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION IS. AND I GOT A SECOND. AND I APPRECIATE IT. POST POST IF I MAY JUST RESPOND TO THAT BRIEFLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. POST, LET ME GO TO MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: AND I DON'T MIND MS. POST GOING FIRST, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO GO BEFORE. BUT I DON'T MIND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MS. POST, GO AHEAD. >>CAROLE POST: I APPRECIATE IT. JUST TO BRIEFLY RESPOND, WE CERTAINLY DO AGREE THAT THERE ARE MANY AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE INTENSITY AND DENSE DENSITY ARE PROPERTY BOTH APPROPRIATE AND DESIRED, AND THAT IS OUR PLAN AS WELL THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TODAY, THE REASON WHY WE DO NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORT THIS TODAY IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS, SOME WOULD BE ULTIMATE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS. THE BONUS OPTIONS REMAIN IN PLACE, MIXED USE OPTIONS, THESE ARE ALL TOOLS THAT CAN BE USED TO ACHIEVE THOSE DENSITIES WITHOUT F.A.R., NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE PNNIN COMMISSION CHANGES MAY NOT HAVE ADAPTATION AND REFINEMENT, BUT WITH OR WITHOUT THEM, THERE REMAINS AN ARRAY OF TOOLS AVAILABLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, IN THE CITY, TO DRIVE DENSITY AND INTENSITY WHERE WE DESIRE IT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. WITH REGARD TO THIS PROPOSAL THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER PUT FORWARD, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD SUPPORT DOWN THE LINE AND WANTED TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER. I SEE HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, BRUCE B. DOWNS BEING INCLUDED IN HERE, AND AREA WHERE TONS AND TON OF BUILDING INTENSIFICATION, ET CETERA, WOULD HAVE TO HONESTLY PROBABLY SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS TO JUST HAVE AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON NUMBER 8, AND THEN MAYBE WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, AND SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS. AGAIN, I THINK WE CAN HAVE BOTH, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THIS COMES BEFORE US, AND WE INVESTIGATE IT, DO THE PROPER RESEARCH, ET CETERA, ON IT, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, JUMPING INTO IT RIGHT NOW, AND WE DEAL WITH NUMBER 8, IF NUMBER 8 FAILS. AND NUMBER 8 PAS, SO THERE YOU GO. BUT JUST MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK MS. POST OR MRS. GRIMES, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER. I WANT TO KNOW WHY THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO WITH DEVELOPMENT, AND CARVE OUT A SECTION, BUT YET WE HEARD THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO THAT TO ME? >>GINA GRIMES: THE REASON IS THEY HAVE THE -- MORATORIU IN A AREA BUT AS DEMONSTRATED TO YOU ON APRIL 1st IS USE OF THE F.A.R. INCREASED THE COMP PLAN DENSE DIS, EIGHTS CITY-WIDE PROBLEM, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT IMPLEMENTING COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND A MORATORIUM IN JUST ONE SECTION OF THE CITY, WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY-WIDE PROBLEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY. SO GO BACK TO THE DATA. >>CAROLE POST: MR. CHAIRMAN GUDES, AND COUNCIL, JUST TO REITERATE ONE POINT THAT MAY BE RELEVA IS AT THE FIRST STEP OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS ACTUALLY END THE 25th, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THAT IS THE FIRST OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT. SO IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNE TIME TO BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION IN CONCERT WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS. IF WE VOTE THIS UP OR DOWN, AND IT'S VOTED DOWN, ARE WE SAYING THAT -- LOOK AT MR. DINGFELDER'S IDEA TO SEND TO LEGAL, AND POSSIBLE TO GET THE ORDINANCE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF HEARING. >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE DO HIS MOTION FIRST? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROCEDURALLY, MR. SHELBY CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT, BUT I THINK IF I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR, IT TAKES PREEM EVENINGS OVER ITEM 8 AS IT STANDS, AND FRANKLY THAT WILL BE MY PREFERENCE. BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSTITUTE FOR ITEM 8. SO WHY DON'T WE MAKE ITEM 8 THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY MORE DISCUSSION BEFORE A VOTE? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY. I'M A STREET GUY. BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN TIE THIS INTO ITEM 8 AND SAY THE SAME THING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME CONTEXT AS ITEM 8 ON THIS AGENDA. AND I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY. I DON'T PLAN TO BE ONE EITHER. AND THIS AGENDA READS DIFFERENTLY THAN THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION OR THE NEW SUBSTITUTE MOTION COMING ON. SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S ITEM NUMBER 8. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I CLARIFY THAT, MR. MIRANDA? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I AGREE WITH YOU. WHEN STAFF TAKES THIS AND MASSAGES IT AND INCORPORATES IT, THIS POLICY, THIS LAND USE POLICY, AND THE EXCEPTIONS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, AND COMBS BACK TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, IT WILL BE A MODIFIED ITEM 8. AS IT IS TODAY, NO, ITEM 8 DOESN'T SPEAK TO THESE ITEMS BECAUSE THESE ITEMS DIDN'T COME UP UNTIL I BROUGHT THEM UP. T THAT'S WHY WE ARE -- AND THE INTENT MIGHT HAVE MOTION IS TO GIVE LEGAL, STAFF, TWO WEEKS TO COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US -- AND IT'S REALLY NOT A BIG MODIFICATION. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY INSERTING TWO PARAGRAPHS. SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF MY MOTION. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET A VOTE ON MY MOTION, SO WE CAN JUST MOVE ON IT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU HAVE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO W SPECIFIC MOTION TO STAFF. ULTIMATELY THE MION LL BE VOTED UP OR DOWN. THE MOTION WILL BE IN ORDER. AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS IF THE MOTION DOES FAIL THEN A MOTION ON ON FIRST READING, OR A MOTION TO NOT GO TO FIRST READING WOULD THEN BE IN ORDER. IT'S UP TO COUNCIL. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO TAKE THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR WITH THE SECOND BEFORE YOU MOVE ON. BUT BOTH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER I BELIEVE ARE BOTH CORRECT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S A MOTIONN T FLOOR BY MR. DINGFELDER. SECOND BY MR. CARLSON. MS. GRIMES, I SAW YOUR HAND UP REAL QUICK. >>GINA GRIMES: I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I STILL AM NOT CLEAR WHAT IT IS, WHAT DIRECTION YOU ARE TRYING TO GIVE STAFF. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDORS BEING EXCLUDED, BUT IS DALE MABRY EXCLUDED? IS PARTS OF NEW TAMPA EXCLUDED? SOME COUNCILMEN WANTED IT INCLUDED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME CLARIFY. I'M SORRY. BUT LET ME CLARIFY, GINA. YOU HAVE GOT A COPY OF THIS FRO I AM SORRY IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. I APOLOGIZE. BUT THIS DOCUMENT SPECIFICALLY LAND USE POLICY 5.1.9 WHICH IS IN FRONT OF ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS IDENTIFIES ABOUT A DOZEN MAJOR ROADS THAT ARE LAND USE POLICY IN OUR COMP PLANS DESCRIBES AS TRANSIT TAMPA SIS CORRIDORS. CORRIDORS.SAYING IS -- EMPHASIS- WHAT I AM SAYING INSTEAD OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE BROAD BRUSH APPROACH THAT IS FRONT OF US ON ITEM 8 IN REGARD TO THE ORDINANCTHAT PENDING, I AM TRYING TO CARVE OUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF THE CITY THAT THE SO-CALLED MORATORIUM WOULD NOT APPLY TO, WOULD NOT APPLY TO. SO WE ARE SHRINKING DOWN ITEM 8, TREMENDOUSLY, TO EXCLUDE ALL OF THESE DOZEN ROAD CORRIDORS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN 5.1.9, AND ANY PROPERTY THAT'S WITHIN A QUARTER MILE WALKING DISTANCE, WALKING DISTANCE, FROM THOSE CORRIDORS. SO I AM DOING EXACTLY WHAT ALL THOSE LAND USE ATTORNEYS ASKED FOR OKAY? AND FRANKLY, I THINK IT WILL HELP THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS, TOO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTY DOWN THERE THAT IS NOT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF GANDY AND NOT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE WALKING OF DALE MABRY. AND THOSE WOULD BE THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE. AND I AM NOT SAYING IT'S PEST. NOTHING IS PERFECT. BUT AT LAST WE HAVE RESPONDED TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE SHORT TERM WHILE STAFF IS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE LONG-TERM. AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF M MOTION. >>GINA GRIMES: I GUESS WHAT I AM CONFUSED ABOUT IS THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADVANCED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT. MODIFY -- >>GINA GRIMES: UNDERSTOOD THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, I CAN RECOLLECT ON SOIL THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND WE WOULD MODIFY OUR MOTION TO THE COMP PLAN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACCORDINGLY IF THIS PASSES. >>GINA GRIMES: I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE WHOLE, I THINK, UNCERTAINTY WITH MORATORIUM, IS YOU HAVE A COMP PLAN THEMED THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND LIKELY GOING TO BE MADE, SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS ARE CONNECTING -- OBJECTING TO THE MORATORIUM BECAUSE THE MORATORIUM IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE ADOPTED. AND THAT IS THE DOWN SIDE TO ADOPTING THE MORATORIUM BEFORE THE ORDINANCE, THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAS BEEN MODIFIED AND ADJUSTED TO MEET EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. SO YOU ARE IMPOSING AN ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW, A MORATORIUM, ON DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY ULTIMATELY BE PERMITTED UNDER THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT THAT'S EVENTUALLY ADOPTED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT THAT'S WHAT ITEM 8 WOULD HAVE DONE. I AM JUST SHRINKING IT DOWN TREMENDOUSLY. I AM SHRINKING THE IMPACT OF ITEM 8 TREMENDOUSLY, MASSIVELY, OKAY, BY EXEMPTING THESE CORRIDORS. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK WE SHOULD LET'S JUST GET A VOTE AND BE DONE WITH IT. IF IT PASSES THEN WE DIRECTED LEGAL STAFF TO DO IT. IF IT DOE'T,ET'S MOVE ON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THIS IS MY LAST CONVERSATION ON THIS ITEM. I AM NOT AGAINST WHAT MR. DINGFELDER HAS BROUGHT UP. BUT I WANT TO BE AS LEGALLY CORRECT 110% AS POSSIBLE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S THE SAME BUT IS DIFFERENT, AND THE APPROACH. IT'S THE SAME TEXT WITH A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE CONVERSATION, JUST SETTLED BY BOTH SIDES. THIS SIDE, RIGHT OR LEFT, LEFT OR RIGHT, SO THEY CAN COME TO A CONCLUSION. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK WITH A NEW ORDINANCE WITHINWO WEEKS, THAT MEANS WE WORKSHOP EVERYTHING. IF SOMEBODY GET A OH COLD WE CALL FOR A WORK SHOWN. HOWEVER LET'S LET THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT I AM 110% SO LATER ON WE DON'T GET BIT AND SAY, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT IN, AND NOT A BAD IDEA, IT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT IS LEGALLY SATISFIED. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN TWO WEEKS COME BACK WITHOUT A WORKSHOP, THE PUBLIC USUALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE RATE TO SPEAK AT FIRST, ON THE FIRST HEARING OF T CONSIDERATION. SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE TIME WHEN IT COMES BACK TWO WEEKS LATER. SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE BOTH SIDES ARE GOING TO BE CRITICIZED FOR NOT HAVING A PROPER TIME AND A PROPER THEATER TO FLESH OUT THESE THINGS AND WORK THEM OUT. I AM NOT AGAINST WHAT MR. DINGFELDER SAID. I DON'T WANT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 1,000% CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK WE ARE EVER GOING TO BE A THOUSAND PERCENT CORRECT. BUT I THINK AGAIN I S WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. WE MAY COME CLOSE. BUT IN MY MIND, WHAT I AM HEARING, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, MR. DINGFELDER HAS SUBMITTED, HE HAS VALID POINTS. AGAIN, YOU SAY LEGALLY. WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT LEGAL OR MAKE IT WORK. RIGHT NOW WE ARE NO SITUATION, UP OR DOWN. DO WE SEND IT ALL BACK AND TRY TO SEE IF THEY CAN -- SEE IF IT CAN LEGALLY WORK AND BRING THE ORDINANCE BACK AND HAVE A WORKSHOP OR HAVE WHATEVER WHETHER THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO GO FOR IT OR NOT, DEVELOPERS GO FOR IT OR NOT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMEBODY STILL ISN'T GOING TO BE HAPPY. PERIOD. MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WILL BE MY FINAL COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC. MR. DINGFELDER, I THINK YOU USED THE RIGHT TERM EARLIER. UNFORTUNATELY WE THINK CAN'T TALK OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE. WE ASKED FOR BASED ON THE DEMANDS OF THE SOUTH OF GANDY FOLKS, WE ASKED FOR A SOUTH OF GANDY SOLUTION, THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED A CERTAIN PROBLEM, AND WE HAVE GOT A SOLUTION NOW THAT IS A POISON PILL. AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE MAD THAT PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY ARE NOT HAPPY, THEY ARE JUST GOING ALONG WITH IT, THE QUESTION HERE IS WHETHER WE IMPLEMENT IT NOW OR WAIT. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT DURING THAT PROCESS -- AND I BELIEVE IN PUBLIC INPUT AND PUBLIC PROCESS -- BUT IN THAT PROCESS, PEOPLE WHO ARE ARMED WELL HAVE LOTS OF MONEY ARE GOING TO INFLUENCE THAT PROCESS MORE THAN THE AVERAGE CITIZEN, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT ENDS UP. I THINK IT WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. WAY PREDICT LISTENING TO THE LANGUAGE OF EVERYONE THIS MORNIN AND LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, I THINK THAT THIS MOTION IS GOING -- THAT YOU JUST MADE IS GOING TO FAIL. I THINK THAT THE MOTION FOR NUMBER 8 IS GOING TO FAIL. AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO APPRAISE EMTIVELY SAY TO THE CITIZENS SOUTH OF GANDY, WE AS A CITY COUNCIL, I THINK, UNANIMOUSLY ASKED FOR A SOLUTION SOUTH OF GANDY. WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS SOMETHING THAT THE BROADER COMMUNITY PEOPLE AND N OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, INDIVIDUAL LAND OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS DON'T LIKE, AND THEY DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR THAT IT AFFECTS THEM INSTEAD OF JUST SOUTH OF GANDY, AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT A PUT INTO THIS PROPOSAL WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO GET ANYTHINGS PASSED. SO I DON'T LIKE IT. I HAVE BEEN IN FAVOR OF DENSITY DEVELOPMENT MY WHOLE LIFE. I DON'T LIKE THIS PROPOSAL.% BUT MY CONSTITUENTS HAVE ASKED ME TO VOTE FOR IT. SO I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT THEM, AND I AM GOING TO VOTE THE WAY THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO VOTE. BUT IF THIS FAILS, WHICH IF NUMBER 8 FAILS WHICH I THINK IT WILL, I WOULD ASK STAFF ESPECIALLY IN THE MEETING WITH THE MAYOR THIS COMING WEAK TO PLEASE THINK OF A SOLUTION AND COME BACK, BECAUSE THIS AFTERNOON STARTING THIS AFTERNOON WE ARE GOING TO GET THOUSANDS OF MORE E-MAILS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN I CLARIFY MY MOTION? >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. MY MOTION DOESN'T COMMIT YOU TO VOTING YES ON FIRST READING. MY MOTION, MR. MIRANDA SPECIFICALLY, MY MOTION SAYS LET'S DIRECT STAFF TO INCORPORATE THIS LAND USE POLICY THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO TEN TIMES NOW, INCORPORATE IT INTO THE ORDINANCE, AND BRING IT BACK FOR FIRST READING IN TWO WEEKS. AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WILL GET PLENTY OF INPUT, WE'LL GET PLENTY OF STAFF INPUT, WE'LL GET PLENTY OF LEGAL INPUT. IF LEGAL SAYS WE ARE TOTALLY OFFBASE I AM SURE THEY WON'T BE SHY IN TELLING US, OKAY. BUT THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION IS. SO JUST A VOTE TODAY TO SAY, HMMM, DINGFELDER, MAYBE THAT'S NOT A BAD APPROACH, LET'S LOOK AT IN THE TWO WEEKS AND I CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S NOT A HUGE AMNT OF WORK. OKAY. IT'S PUTTING IN A COUPLE EXTRA PARAGRAPHS TO WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. AND TWO WEEKS FROM NOW IF WE DON'T LIKE IT WE CAN VOTE IT DOWN. >>RANDY GOERS: CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. JUST TO SHED SOME LIGHT. THE ADDITION OF MOVING THE ORDINANCE AROUND THE PRIMARY TRANSIT CORRIDORS, ESPECIALLY DOWN IN GANDY OR DALE MABRY, IS HEING ROUGHOUT THE PROCESSEN AS FAR AS WHERE A ROAD SHOULD GO AND WE CAN GO BACK TO ALL THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE HEARD PAST AUGUST, AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN ABOUT WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT IS ROLL CALL VOTE -- LOCATED ALONG GANDY AND DALE MABRY, AND IN HURRICANE TIME AN% SO FORTH, SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE TRANSIT CORRIDORS DOES BRING US, I THINK, TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ALL ALONG, EVEN THOUGHT NAOWS THE SCOPE OF THE INTERIM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. I THINK COMING FROM MY PROFESSIONAL PLANNING EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GAVE A FEW WEEKS AGO TO PROCESS A PLAN AMENDMENT IS THE% PROPER PLACE TO HANDLE THOSE KIND OF DISCUSSIONS. IT WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY, IT GIVES THE STAFF, IT WILL GIVE YOU AS CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE APPLICATION OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LONG RANGE PLANNING. IT WILL ALSO PRIDE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN MISSING THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS, AND THAT IS A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME AND ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND COME TO CONSENSUS, BUT EVERY TIME WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE, A NEW SUGGESTION COMES UP. BECAUSE OF A SPECIAL INTEREST. AND ALTHOUGH I CAN'T PREDICT THE FUTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAST, TWO WEES FROM NOW WE MAY COME BACK WITH ANOTHER OPTION TO TAKE A LOOK AT. SO I DO WANT TO CAUTION OR AT LEAST RAISE THE ISSUE THATF BUILDING THE ORDINANCE AROUND THE PRIMARY TRANSIT CORRIDOR ESPECIALLY ALONG GANDY AND DALE MABRY SETS US ON A DIRECTION THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ENVISIONED, SO I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT. AND I DO BELIEVE THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE WHICH YOU INITIATED IS I THINK THE PROPER PLACE TO HANDLE THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN? RANDY, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT -- AND I LOVE OF KNOWN YOU 20-SOMETHING YEARS, MR. CARLSON AND MYSELF AND MAYBE SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I TALKED TO THESE PEOPLE SOUTH OF GANDY LIKE AT LEAST ONCE A WEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUE INCLUDING YESTERDAY. SO I AM VERY, VERY AWARE OF THEIR SENSITIVITIES AND THEIR DESIRES AND THAT SORT OF THING. IF I THOUGHT THIS WAS 100% COUNTER TO WHAT THEY WANT, THEN I WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS. I TOOK A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT THE MAP THAT WAS UP ON OUR SCREEN EARLIER. MR. RANDY COEN PUT UP ON THERE. OKAY. IT SPECIFICALLY LOOKET SOG. ALL RIGHT. AND YES, THERE'S A FEW OPPORTUNITIES ALONG GANDY BOULEVARD, AND THERE'S A FEW OPPORTUNITIES ALONG SOUTH DALE MABRY THAT STILL MATE COME INTO PLAY. AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE WHEN THEY COME INTO US FOR REZONING. BUT THE ONE THING THAT STAFF HAS NOT PROPOSING IS STAFF, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, EVERYBODY FROM LEGAL THROUGH MS. POST ALL THE WAY DOWN, STAFF IS NOT OFFERING ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS TO STOP THESE REZONINGS FROM COMING I I E BIG INTENSIVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. AND I KNOW I SOUND A LITTLE UPSET. MY WIFE ALWAYS WARNS ME NOT TO SOUND UPSET. BUT STAFF HAS NOT BEEN OFFERING ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS. THE ONLY SOLUTION MR. GARRETT YOU PROPOSED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A MONTH AGO WAS YOU SAID, YES, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS IN A YEAR AND WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS IN 18 MONTHS, AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THAT'S THE WORLD THAT YOU OPERATE IN. BUT THESE CITIZENS WHO ARE WRITING TO US, THAT'S NOT THE WORLD THEY OPERATE IN. TH THESE REZONINGS ARE COMING TO US WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK, AND WE NEED A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS INTERIM THING AS PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED BY ME TODAY WILL PROVIDE. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM JUST LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO THROW THIS TOGETHER IN TWO WEEKS AND COME BACK FOR FIRST READING, A COMMITMENT TODAY FROM YOU IS NOT -- >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE SOONER WE VOTE ON IT. MR. CHAIR, PLEASE. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD THAT MR. GOERS HAD HIS CHANCE TO CHIME IN. AND THIS STUDYSOING TO GIVE US A HECK OF A LOT MORE REASONS TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHO, HOW AND WHAT WE CAN DO. AND GIVE US THE LEGAL BASIS IN WHICH WE CAN DO IT. I AGREE, WE HAVE ALL HEARD FROM SOUTH OF GANDY PEOPLE. AND AS FAR AS -- I'M HER FAVORITE COUNCILMAN UNLESS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN LITTLE POSTIE NOTES ON THEIR MEMOS, TOO. >> YOU ARE? HOVER, TAKING A SHORT-ERM RESOLVE TO THIS IS LIKE STEPPING ON A SHOELACE. WE MIGHT TRIP OVER OURSELVES AFTER WE HEAR FROM RANDY GOERS AND MAY HAVE TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND AGAIN. I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HEARING WHAT WE HAVE WITH THIS STUDY AND THEN MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. I'M FINISHED, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. DINGFELDER, SECOND BY MR. CARLSON. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>LUIS VIERA: NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH VIERA MANISCALCO CITRO AND MIRANDA VOTING NO. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? AND I KNOW WE ARE GOING OVERTIME. AGAIN, I SAW THIS AS SOMETHING WHICH WOULD IN EFFECT CONTINUE NUMBER 8. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD COME BACK TO US IN A COUPLE WEEKS, IN EFFECT DOING WHAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WANTED. I JUST THINK THAT WE PBABLY NEED TO LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE HAVING JUST GOTTEN IT TODAY, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I SAID. BUT AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD COME BACK. SO THAT MAY NOT BE DONE WITH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, ARE YOU LOOKING TO PUT A MOTION UP NOW FOR LATER REVIEW OR UNDER NEW BUSINESS OR MOVE ON? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CITY COUNCIL JUST VOTED NO. AND MR. MANISCALCO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR DRUTHERS THAT YOU WOULD RATHER SEE THIS GO, IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT STUDIED AOME BACK IN A MONTH, BUT YOUR VOTE MIGHT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. BUT I DON'T KNOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LISTENED TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, COUNCILMAN CITRO, MR. GOERS AND OTHERS. I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT, JUST TO BE SAFE. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY MISTAKES. I UNDERSTAND GETTING INFORMATION AND COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS BUT THE IS THIS THE RIGHT THING TO DO? I KNOW HE WAS IMPATIENT BUT I WANT TO SEE ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE FACTS BEFORE ANYTHING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE STUDIES WE ARE TALNG ABOUT ARE RIGHT HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I UNDERSTAND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS GOING ON. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I FEEL THE SAME WAY. I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE SOUTH OF TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY, SOUTH OF KENNEDY, SOUTH OF GEORGIA. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE DO IS 110% CORRECT. I WOULD RATHER WAIT A LITTLE LONGER AND GET IT DONE SO WE HAVE NO RAMIFICATION THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT GIVES US SOMETHING THAT'S 110%, THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CORRECT. AND I AM NOT AGAINST MR. DINGFELDER. I AM NOT AGAINST ANYONE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS DONE CORRECTLY. AND I AM NOT FOR ANYONE. I JUST WANT TO GET IT DONE RIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL? >>LUIS VIERA: DO WE VOTE ON NUMBER 8 NOW? >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO YOU WANT TO DO IT AFTER LUNCH? >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE WANT TO DO OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND GET THIS DONE AN OUT OF THE WAY? COMMITTEE REPORTS, I'M SORRY. OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S ALREADY 12:30. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL? >> [OFF MICROPHONE] >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. WE ARE RECESSED TILL 1:30. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE. 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