. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER IT'S MONDAY SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2023. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND ONLINE WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE STAND AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN, THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOROINING US TS EVENING ON OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING OF THE SUMMER OF 2023 . THIS IS OUR LAST ONE FOR THE SUMMER. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE WE ARE MISSING ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TONIGHT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IS NOT WITH US AND MR. FERRUGIA IS JOINING US ONLINE . I'M OBVIOUSLY MASKED UP TONIGHT BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE CRUD AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY UP HERE AND ALSO I'VE BEEN HANGING OUT WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET ANYBODY SICK. SO THAT'S I'M MASKED UP TONIGHT OUR FIRST ITEM OF ADARA ON T AGENDA TONHT THE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND ON OUR AGENDA WE HAVE UNDER INTRODUCTORY WE'RE GOING TO MEET SOME NEW EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS ITEM 2.2 IS A PROCLAMATION FOR LAND NEXT HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND ITEM 2.1 2.0 THERE IT IS 2.3 WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE 2.4 WE'VE GOT A SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION APPOINTMENT TO MAKE THIS EVENING OUR CONSENT BUSINESS AND COUNCILMEMBER MERTEN OUR CONSENT BUSINESS IT IS A LENGTHY ONE. WE'VE GOT 19 ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT AND UNDER ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE'VE GOT ITEM 4.1 AND 4.2 AS ARE THE RESOLUTIONS ADOPTING OUR PRELIMINARY 2024 TAX LEVY AND 2024 GENERAL FUND BUDGET. NEXT UP UNDER OUR HEARINGS AND RESOLUTIONS ARE AN ANNUAL ITEM WE TAKE UP PUBLIC HEARINGS TO DO ASSESSMENTS REGARDING OUR PUBLIC NUISANCES, OUR PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS ARE WE AND BRUSH REMOVAL DELINQUENT DELINQUENT ASSESSMENTS AND THEN CIVIL FINES FOR PROPERTY RELATED VIOLATIONS AND ASSESSMENTS AND UM 4.8 AS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING REZONING FROM LYNDALE AVENUE PROPERTIES FROM B2 TO B FOR AND THEN ITEM 4.9 IS APPROVAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND PLAN WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT THAT PROPOSED PLAN OR WRAP UP THIS EVENING WITH OUR ITEM 5.1 WHICH IS OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AS WE ALWAYS DO CONSIDER ANY CHANGES ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA HEREIN NONE I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION SIX ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE'VE GOT AN AGENDA AND A 2.1 ON THE AGENDA IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND THINK WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 246 NEW EMPLOYEES WITHIN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MR. CARL KEIL IS GOING TO BE A MASTER OF CEREMONIES HERE. GOOD EVENING, MR. KEIL THE MAYOR COUIL. EASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS. EVENING. WE HAVE SIX NEW EMPLOYEES I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALL FROM OUR MAINTENANCE DIVISION BUT FROM DIFFERENT WORK GROUPS IN OUR MEETINGS DIVISION. SO WE'LL START OUT WITH FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE CHAD HAYNES CHANT CHAD IS A FACILITY ATTENDANT OVER HERE AT CIVIC PLAZA COMES TO US WITH OVER YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT BUT BEFORE THAT HAD 25 YEARS IN THE HORSE BUSINESS AS A TRAINER AND TAKING CARE OF SHOWS FOR HORSES. HE'S A ARMY VETERAN AND I GREW UP IN IN LAKEVILLE. HE SAYS IT WHEN IT WAS STILL A SMALL TOWN BUT I THINK HE STILL THERE. HE ALSO HAS HOSTED STUDENTS FROM SWEDEN AND DEVELOPED A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE FAMILIES AND MAINTAINS THAT AND VISITS SWEDEN HE'S ABLE FINALLY I TELL YOU ABOUT CHAD IS HE'S A RABID GOPHER HOCKEY FAN AND HAS HAD HELD SEASON TICKETS FOR OVER 20 YEARS SO JET YEAH I'M THANKFUL TO BE A PART OF THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO GREAT ADVENTURES HERE WITH YOU. WELL GREENY, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING. I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN LAKEFIELD WAS A SMALL TOWN AND YES I KNOW MORE WELL ANYMORE. WELCOME ABOARD. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. Q AND NEXT IS JOEL. JOEL KOPECKY. JOE IS A IS A TECHNICIAN IN OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE GROUP COMES WITH US WITH OVER TEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN FACILITIES MAINTENANCE MOST RECENTLY WITH RAMSEY COUNTY WITH THEIR PARK AND RECREATION . WHILE HERE HE'S COMPLETED HIS CARPENTRY COURSE SUMMERS ACADEMY AND JUST RECENTLYOT HIS CDL THAT'S HIS COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE SO WE CAN USE HIM FOR SNOW PLOWING WHICH IS A GOOD THING. JOEL GREW UP IN SAINT PAUL AND WHEN NOT AT WORK HE LOVES TIME SPENDING TIME WITH HIS WIFE AND HIS TWO CHILDREN. ONE QUITE YOUNG I THINK. YES, YES. SO JOE IS HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. WELL,HANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US JOE. AND NOT TO IMPLY THAT WE WILL USE FOR SNOWPLOW AND WE DON'T USE ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT THEY MAKE WITHIN OUR SNOWPLOW AND BUT I'M GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. YOU THANKS. YOU'LL CONTRIBUTE TO OUR PLUMBING. THERE WE GO. KYLE KOSINSKI KYLE IS NOW WE'RE MOVING OVER TO OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE GROUP. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT TAKE CARE OF ALL THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT IN THE CITY. AND KYLE IS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS. HE'S A FLEET MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN HAS COMES TO US WITH SEN YEARS OF PERIENCE AT THE MOST RECENTLY WITH THE FREIGHTLINER BUSINESS. SO WITH HEAVY, HEAVY EQUIPMENT BEFORE THAT HAD SPENT SOME TIME IN KIND OF THE MORE THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT FOR FOUR YEARS AND HE HAS GONE TO THE DAKOTA COUNTY TECHNICAL COLLEGE AND HE HAS A NUMBER OF CERTIFICATES IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT RELATED TO FLEET MAINTENANCE TE ACTIVITIES. SO AND KIND OF AS A SIDE NOTE HE HAS HE GREW UP IN BLOOMINGTON. SO LOOKING AT IT THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EVERYTHING AND BEING ABLE TO BE EMPLOYED HERE. WELL, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. DID WHERE DID YOU GROW UP HERE IN BLOOMINGTON 82ND NICOLLET. AGAIN RIGHT NEXT TO MCDONALD'S. AND WELCOME SOPHIA. IF WE GO ON GOING TO FLEET MAINTENANCE STILL IN FLEET MAINTENANCE SORRY SOPHIEONG THAT IS A LOT OF SUPPORT SPECIALISTS IN MAINTENANCE GROUP SO SHE'S THE PERSON THAT KIND OF KEEPS TRACK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORK THAT'S GOING ON THE ORDERING OF PARTS ,THE ORDERING OF EQUIPMENT, ALL KINDS OF SUPPORT SERVICES THAT KEEPS OUR OPERATION FUNCTIONING COMES TO US WITH TEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AGAIN MOST RECENTLY AT RAMSEY COUNTY AND HAS A B.A. DEGREE IN MANAGEMENT AND A CONCENTRATION IN AND OPERATIONS AND GREW UP IN TWIN CITIES AND NOT HERE LAKES TO DO YOGA AND TAKE WALKS AROUND TH LAKE, SPEND TIM WITH FRIENDS AND TRAVEL WHENEVER POSSIBLE. SOPHIE. NICE TO MEET EVERYONE. WELCOME SOPHIE. YOU THREE NOW OVER TO ST MAINTENANCE WE'LL START WITH TOM HILBERT FROM TOM IS AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND COMES TO US WITH 11 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE STEEL MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY. HE HAS AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE FROM HEAD UP IN TECH AND I GREW UP IN IN BLOOMINGTON AND WHERE HE LIVES WITH HIS WIFE AND HISON HE ENJOYS TIM WI HIS FAMILY AT THE LAKE IN THE SUMMER AND PLAYING HOCKEY IN THE PARKS AND DURING THE WINTER . SO TOM, THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING THE CITIZENS OF BLOOMINGTON. GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE AND HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. AND OUR LAST NEW EMPLOYEE FOR THIS EVENING IS PAT KELLY. PAT IS ALSO IN OUR STREET MAINTENANCE BUNCH HERE. HE'S AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR AND HAS A COMMERCIAL DRIVER'S LICENSE AND TEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TWO YEARS AT DEM CON MOST RECENTLY GREW UP IN ELKO NEW MARKETS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TWIN CITIES LOVES TIME LOVES TO SPEND TIME HUNTING AND FISHING AND TRAVELING AND HANGING OUT WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS. SO WELCOME PAT. THANKS. LOOK IN THE GOOD ROADS AHEAD PUN INTENDED WELL DONE. WELL DONE. GOOD THANKS FOR BEING HERE. SO TOM PAT, CHAD, JOE KYLE AND SOPHIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE THIS EVENING AND. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. IT'S GREAT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO US HERE ON THE COUNCIL BUT ALSO THE GENERAL PUBLIC SO THEY CAN SEE THE SERVANTS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING THEM AND THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK THANK YOU, CARL. OUR NEXT TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ARE RESOLUTIONS SO I'M GOING TO MAKE MY WAY DOWN TO THE PODIUM HERE . AS I SAID, WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS THIS EVENING, THE FIRST BEING A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT FOR LATIN X, HISPANIC HARD HIT HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS AND IT'S GOING TO BE OFFICIALLY RECEIVED BY DARLENE NAVARRO. WHY DON'T YOU COME ON UP IF YOU COULD PLEASE. DARRYL IS PRESIDENT OF THE EMPLOYEEESOURCE GROUPDGE WHIC STANDS FOR ETHNIC DIVERSE GROUP OF EMPLOYEES AND I'LL LET INTRODUCE YOURSELF HERE IN JUST A MOMENT AND YOUR SPECIAL GUEST IF YOU'D LIKE OR . I'LL BE HAPPY TO INTRODUCE YOUR SPECIAL GUEST ALSO. SO ALL RIGHT. SO I WANT TO GET STARTED ON THE PROCLAMATION FOR LATIN X HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, 2023. WHEREAS IN 1988 THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS ADOPTED A RESOLUTION DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH OF EACH YEAR AS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND. WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 15TH IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE FOR FIVE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES COSTA RICA EL GUATEMALA, HONDURAS AND NICARAGUA. ADDITIONALLY, MEXICO ACHIEVED INDEPENDENCE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH AS CHILE ACHIEVED INDEPENDENCE ON SEPTEMBER 18TH. AND. WHEREAS THIS MONTH'S THEME LATINOS DRIVING PROSPERITY, POWER AND PROGRESS IN AMERICA IS A TIME TO REFLECT ON THE FUTURE OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THE SIGNIFICANT ROLE THAT THE LATIN X HISPANIC COMMUNITY HAS HAD AND WILL HAVE ON OUR CITIES POWER ANDROGRESS RECOGNIZING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LATIN X HISPANIC PEOPLE IN ECONOMIC, POLITICAL AND SOCIAL. AND. WHEREAS, THE LATINX HISPANIC COMMUNITY IS RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE HAS HAD A PROFOUND INFLUENCE ON OUR COUNTRY THROUGH STRONG COMMITMENT TO FAMILY, FAITH, HARD WORK AND SERVICES AND THEY HAVE ENHANCED AND SHAPED OUR NATIONAL HERITAGE WITH CENTURIES OLD TRADITIONS THAT REFLECT THE MULTIETHNIC AND MULTICULTURAL CUSTOMS OF THEIR COMMUNITY. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS HOME TO MORE THAN 9000 LATIN X HISPANIC RESIDENTS, T CITY BLOOMINGTON REMAINS COMMITTED TO ENSURE THAT NEXT HISPANIC RESIDENTS WHO CALL BLOOMINGTON HOME HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE THEIR DREAMS, FEEL SAFE, WELCOMED AND EMBRACED DESPITE THE ONGOING CHALLENGES SOCIAL JUSTICE AND CIVIL RIGHTS THAT EXIST WITHIN SOCIETY. AND. WHEREAS, HONORING AND CELEBRATING THE HISTORY ACHIEVEMENTS CONTRIBUTIONS AND DIVERSITY OF THE LATIN X HISPANIC COMMUNITY WILL BUILD AND FOSTER RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ALL COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT MINNESOTA NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I TIM BUSSEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DO HEREBY PROCLAIMEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER OCTOBER 15TH, 2023 AS LATINX HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH DATA THIS 18TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023. THIS IS AN ANNUAL PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE COUPLE OF YEARS. I'M PROUD THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE AND ONE THAT CERTAINLY IS RELEVANT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND DEARLY NOW YOU ARE AS IT WAS BORN IN BOGOTA, COLOMBIA, CORRECT? VERY GOOD. AND YOU'VE BEEN YOU CAME TO THE UNITED STATES WHEN YOU WERE 20ND MOV TO FROM GEORGIA TO MINNESOTA A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND PLAYED WITH THE CITY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND NOW YOU'RE WORKING ON YOUR MASTER'S DEGREE IN PLANNING, CORRECT? VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU. VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND PROUD TO HAVE YOU AS AN EMPLOYEE AND. I WON'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER. I'LL LET YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO A FEW WORDS AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE YOU INTRODUCE YOUR SPECIAL GUEST AS WELL. COME . GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. VERY. I'M GIVIN YOU MYO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS A TIME TO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY THIS IS A TERM THAT ENCOMPASSES FROM MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES REGIONS, LANGUAGES AND CULTURES FROM THE CARIBBEAN TO SOUTH AMERICA, SPAIN TO THE UNITED STATES, HISPANIC AND LATINO COMMUNITIES PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SHAPING THE UNITED STATES. THEIR INFLUENCE CAN BE SEEN IN AN ART CULTURE, SCIENCE, POLITICS AND MUCH MORE. THEY INNATING INNOVATIO AND DEDICATION HAVE CREATED AND FUEL ECONOMIC GROWTH IS TRAINING OUR COMMUNITIES IN THE PROCESS IT IS AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY I HAVE A GUESS AN IMPORTANT GUESS WHICH IS MY MOM HERE TODAY AND THIS IS FOR ALL THE PARENTS OUT THERE WHO LEFT EVERYTHING BEHIND TO GIVE THEIR CHILDREN A BETTER FUTURE ,TO PROVIDE THEIR CHILDREN WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE NEVER GIVEN. THIS IS FOR YOU, MOM, WHO ARE YOU HERE TODAY AND FOR MY SISTER WHO PROBABLY WATCHING ME AT HOME I THINK IS NOT ENOUGH AND IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. FINALLY JUST LET US LEARN FROM THIS STORY IS AN ACHIEVEMENT OF THE HISPANIC AND LATINO AMERICANS AND LET US WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTRIBUTIONS CONTINUE TO SHAPE OUR NATION FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS AND LET US EMBRACE THE SPIRIT OF UNITY FOR A BLOOMINGTON TO TOMORROW TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I THINK WE OFFICIALLY NEED TO GET A PICTURE AND THEN WE'LL OFFICIALLY CALL MAMA FOR A PICTURE AS WELL. BUT THERE OKAY. COME ON, YOU GOT TO COME FOR THE PICTURE ALSO FACING DAVID ,THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. IT'S VERY NICE. THANK Y . THE SECOND PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2023. I'LL JUST GET INTO THE PROCLAMATION, DO A BIT OF EXPLANATION A BIT AFTERWARDS. SO ON THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2023 WHEREAS THE IUE OF PEACE EMBRACES THE DEEPEST HOPES OF ALL PEOPLES AND REMAINS GUIDING INSPIRATION. AND. WHEREAS, IN 1981 THE UNITED NATIONS PROCLAIMED THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE BE DEVOTED TO COMMEMORATING AND STRENGTHENING THE IDEALS OF PEACE BOTH WITHIN AND AMONG ALL NATIONS AND PEOPLES AND AS OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR WORLD CONTINUE TO SEE A RISE IN AND CONFLICT, OUR CITY REMAINS DEDICATED TO PEACE WHICH AFFIRMS A VISION OF OUR WORLD AT PEACE AND FOSTERS COOPERATION BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS AND NATIONS. AND. WHEREAS, THE YEAR 2023 MARKS 16 YEARS A CIVIC PLAZA AS A PEACE ACT WHICH REPRESENTS OUR COMMITMENT TO SEEK PEACE WITHIN OURSELVES AND OTHERS REACH OUT AND SERVICE PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, RESPECT DIVERSITY, FOSTER INCLUSIVITY AND BE RESPONSIBLE OF THE WORLD NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I TIMBUK2 MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2023 AS THE INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE. DAY TO 18TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023. NOW THE THEME FOR THIS YEAR'S INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE IS ACTIONS FOR PEACE WHICH IS APPROPRIATE IT'S NOT JUST THE WORDS, IT'S THE ACTIONS OF PEACE AND IT'S A CALL FOR ACTION RECOGNIZES INDIVIDUAL AND COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY TO FOSTER PEACE WHEREVER WE ARE. AND AS I'VE AS I MENTIONED HERE, 16 YEARS OF CIVIC PLAZA AS A PEACE SITE AND I KNOW ARE OTHER PEACE SITES ACROSS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND WITHIN A NUMBER OF OUR SCHOOLS. AND I THINK WE HAVE PEACE POLLS REPRESENTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS. I THINK OUR MOST OUR NEWEST ONE IS A NORMAN DALE BANDSHELL IT REALLY DOES MAKE A MARK MAKE A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENT OR SHOWS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO TO THAT PEACE NOT JUST WITHIN OURSELVES BUT ALSO IN ACTING TOWARD PEACE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PEACE WITHIN AND THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY SO PROUD TO DECLARE THIS INTERNATIONAL DAY OF PEACE AND SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2023 AND I HOPE YOU CAN ALL RECOGNIZE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IN YOUR OWN HEARTS. SO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH . NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 2.4 AND THAT IS AN APPOINTMENT TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND WITHIN THIS SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION VACANCY WE HAVE ONE OPENING AND WE HAD FIVE APPLICANTS AND I KNOW THAT A SCREENING PROCESS WAS DONE AND THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE APPOINTMENT TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND THE INTERVIEW PANEL. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND ANGELA MCCOSH FROM OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION DID THE INTERVIEWS AND CAME FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND I THINK THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION WAS TO AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT SEAN MCFARLAND TO A TERM ON THE DATE OF THE APPOINTMENT WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF FEBRUARY 20TH, 2026. THAT IS CORRECT. VERY GOOD COUNSEL. SO THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS BROUGHT FORWARD TO US WITH OTHER STRONG CANDIDATES BUT. THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE APPOINTMENT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION UNLESS THERE'S A DISCUSSION FOR OTHER POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION I'D LOOK A MOTION COUNCILMEMBER. WOMAN NOW MAYOR WHEN WE A POLICY ISSUE UP WITH UPDATES I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION I'M SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUE DID A FINE JOB ALONG WITH THE PANEL I'D LE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE SCHEDUL THESE TNGS TO JT ENSURE THAT GET AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE AS POSSIBLE BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE POLICY INITIATIVE UPDATE IT SOUNDS GOOD UNDERSTOOD. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE MOTION JUST LET ME GET MY ACT TOGETHER HERE. SORRY. SO YES THE MOTION IS TO APPOINT SEAN MCFARLAND TO A TERM FROM THE DATE OF APPOINTMENT I ASSUME IS TODAY TO 2022 FEBRUARY 28, 2026 ON THE SUSTAINABILITY SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO APPOINT SEAN MCFARLAND TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION EFFECTIVE TODAY RUNNI THROH FEBRUARY 28TH 2026. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL ON THIS IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HEY I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS SEAN CONGRATULATIONS THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ON THE NEWEST MEMBER VERY GOOD. ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS AND COUNCILMEMBER MERTEN HAS TONIGHT'S LENGTHY CONSENT AGENDA COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN THANK YOU MAYOR SO FAR I HAVE ONLY HEARD HDS FROM LOWMAN ON ITEMS 3.4 AND 3.5. WAS THERE OTHERS? OKAY, I SEE NONE. I'LL GO AHEAD. MOVE APPROVAL OF 3.1 TO 3.3 AND 3.6 THROUGH 3.19 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED EXCLUDING 3.4 AND 3.65, FOUR AND FIVE EXCUSE ME FOUR AND 53..5 OTHERWI AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN ADAM POINT FOUR. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION FOR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS TO TRANSFER FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY FUNDS TO THE CITY FACILITIES FUND. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS FOR A REMODEL OF ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. AND WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO GETUST TRY TO G SOME CLARITY ON SOME THINGS HERE JUST SO I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, IS THIS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF , YOU KNOW, USING YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY IS A A FUND THE COUNCIL UTILIZES FOR ITS STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, TO DO THINGS. YOU KNOW, FOR A FOUR STAFF GROUP THAT'S THAT'S ONE QUESTION I HAVE OF THE MANAGER HAS THAT AND I'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHER ONES I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. FERRUCCI MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WE HAVE NOT IN MY RECOLLECTION TAPPED THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND FOR A MAJOR REMODEL PROJECT LIKE THIS. BUT I'D ALSO SAY AT LEAST IN OUR TIME THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A REMODEL PROJECT LIKE THIS AND THE FACILITIES FUND IS STRAINED TO SUPPORT IT. EXCUSE. WHERE IT FITS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS THE THIS IS THE PRODUCT OF THE STY THAT WE DID ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO REGARDING THE HRA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY AND HOW WE GOING TO WE WERE GOING TO UTILIZE THOSE TWO ENTITIES FURTHERING THE STRATEGIC WORK OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND PART OF THAT OUTCOME WAS TO BOLSTER THE PORT AUTHORITY IN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT WAY THAT WE HAD TO ADD CAPACITY IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IN BRINGING ON NEW STAFF AS PART OF THIS IS A REALIGNMENT TO MATCH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HRA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE JUST FOLLOWS FROM IT. WE ARE GETTING TO A POINT IN THE CITY WHERE THESE FACILITIES ARE REACHING THE THEY'RE USEFUL IN THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET YEARS OUT OF THEM BUT WHEN WE HAVE TO BRING IN NEW STAFF AND WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE MOVING AROUND TO DO THAT THE THE APPROACH AT THIS TIME WAS TO LOOK AT THE REMODEL BEING THE THE RIGHTHING TO D SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE UTILIZING THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES ON THAT ALSO NOTE THAT THE HRA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY HAVE EACH CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PROJECT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AND ALSO TO NOT TEAR UP THE FACILITIES FUND TOO MUCH BECAUSE. WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS THERE AND I'M ALSO JUST TRYING TO ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THIS AMOUNT IS YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT THIS I'M NOT SURE IF I'M COUNTING THIS CORRECTLY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALMOST YOU KNOW, 1.4 MILLION OR IS IT OR IS IT 900 OR IS IT 2 MILLION? WHAT IS IT THAT WE HAVE HERE? IT'S I SEE FURNITURE HERE WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM HERE IS 3.5 IS 535. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE AMOUNT THAT GETS US UP TO THE 800 OR $900,000? IT'S JUST NOT CLEAR TO ME WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM AND WHAT THE TOTAL COST OF SOME REMODEL IS ARE COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LONG AT ALL? PROJECT COST IS 19000 TO 500000 AND IRASTRUCTURE IS PRIORITY ONE AND THE REMAINDER IS BEING CONTRIBUTED BY EACH ARE IN THE PORT AUTHORITY SO IT'S $900,000 PLUS THE 500 NO. MR. MAYOR CONSIDERS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS 900,000 THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND IS THE 500,000 FOR THE FURNITURE THAT'S FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO IT'S IT'S WALLS AND FIXTURES AND FURNISHINGS CABINETS, CHAIRS ALL OF IT JUST I HE A DOT YOU KNOW, MAYOR HAVE NEVER SEEN US DO USE OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITY DOLLARS IN THIS WAY. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG BUT I JUST HAVE NEVER SEEN US DO THIS BEFORE AND THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH WITH GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE AND I CERTAINLY CAN SEE THE CONNECTION WITH WHAT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY BUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT PROBABLY ALSO NEED, YOU KNOW, FIXING UP AND TYPE OF THING. AND I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HAD THE SUATION WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT WE WANTED TO UTILIZE THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. WE MADE A PLAN THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WE'RE GOING TO DO AND THEN WE DESIGNATED THOSE DOLLARS OVER SEVERAL YEARS TO KIND OF DO THAT. AND WHAT MY FEAR IS IS THAT WE WOULD START DOWN THIS PROCESS FOR THIS DEPARTMENT RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED TO HAVE UPGRADES UP AND UP UPTICKS AND WE'RE KIND OF JUST DOING THIS PIECEMEAL OF , YOU KNOW, NOT BEING PLANFUL ABOUT THIS. AND YOU KNOW, FROM MY MY MY STANDPOINT I COULD SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR THING IF HAVE A PLAN AROUND IT AND IT'S SOMETHING WE PLAN ON DOING ON AN ONGOING BASIS. YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE DOLLARS FROM THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY PLAN EACH YEAR OR WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND AND TRY TO THEM AND UP TO THEM. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS USE OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES IN THIS FASHION. THIS IS JUST TOTALLY NOT SOMETHING I'VE EVER SN US DO AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. THAT'S THE VERY USAGE OF A YOU KNOW, OUR CAPITAL FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE LAWS FOR THAT AND IF WE DIDN'T PROPERLY PUT OUR DOLLARS ASIDE FOR THAT I JUST DON'T THAT MAKES SENSE KIND OF DO THIS I'M JUST AFRAID ABOUT THIS PRECEDENCE WE'RE STARTING HERE AND HAVE NO PROBLEM STARTING THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO AN INITIATIVE BY WHICH WE WANT TO INVEST IN THE REST OF THE CITY . THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, COULD ALSO USE A USE A TOUCH UP AND I'D LIKE US TO BE PLANFUL ABOUT IT IN THERE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS SO JUST FOR CONTEXT I DON'T I'M NOT ONE I'M NOT INTENDING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE WITH YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN BUT TO SAY IT'S ONE DEPARTMENT I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER. RIGHT. IT'S MORE THAN 80 PEOPLE ACROSS EVERYTHING FROM BUILDINGS AND INSPECTIONS TO OUR ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO THE HRA, TO THE PORT AUTHORITY, TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF THE POPULATION OF THE PEOPLE DO WORK EVERY DAY. IT REPRESENTS AT LEAST TWO OF THE COUNTERS THAT WE SUPPORT EVERYTHING FROM PASSPORT SERVICES TO LICENSING TO AND YOU KNOW, TO PERMITTING TO ALLOW ALL OF US SHOWING UP AS CANDIDATES TO GET OUR ELECTION CERTIFICATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT ORGANIZED. I MEAN IT'S ALL OF THAT, RIGHT? SO I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AS JUST A LIKE A ONE PERSON OVER ON THE CORNER DECIDING TO DO SOME KIND OF VANITY PROJECT. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S CORRECT AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE CONTEXTUALLY WE HAVE THAT CLEAR. THE OTHER THING IS IT IS KIN OFLANFUL. MEAN IT MAYBE NOT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND PIECE OF IT BUT I THINK THAT BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS THIS GOES BACK TO MORE THAN YOU KNOW FOR 2021 EVEN BEFORE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL WHEN THIS HAS BEEN LOOKED AT WE AS A COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO MAKE THE CHANGES IN THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE HRA. WE DID THAT THAT THAT TRIGGERS A LOT OF THIS CHANGE REQUIREMENT RATE TO MAKE IT SO THAT THOSE FOLKS CAN DO A BETTER JOB WORKING WITH THEIR PARTNERS IN BUILDINGS AND INSPECTIONS OR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH LIKE I LOVEHE DIRECTION WRE GOING IN WITH HEALTH IN THE WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER SO WE'RE NOT JUST BRINGING A TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE BRINGING A CARROT AS WELL RIGHT TO SAY TO FOLKS, HEY, WE WANT TO ACTUALLY HELP YOU STAY IN YOUR HOME. THE GOAL IS NOT FIND YOU AND FIND YOU AND FIND YOU AND ASSESS YOU UNTIL YOU CAN'T BE HERE ANYMORE. THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THAT THAT HOME SOMETHING THAT'S PART THE STOCK OF BLOOMINGTON THAT'S VALUABLE NATURE. IT HAS LEVERS FOR THAT. BUT THEY'RE SITTING LITERALLY AS FAR AWAY FROM AS POSSIBLE FROM EACH OTHER AND THEY DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO INTERACT REGULARLY. ANDHAT'S THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE EFFICIENCY OF THE GOVERNMENT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED I HAD THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE SITE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS TAKEN A TOUR OF THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUT IT'S ALSO REALLY UNSAFE IN A LOT OF WAYS. THERE'S SOME SECTIONS OF IT THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU COULD GET OUT IN IT LIKE A FIRE OR AN ACTIVE SHOOTER IS TO BREAK A WINDOW. AND SO LIKE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD. I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO BETTER ABOUT THAT AND STUFF LIKE THAT TOO. AND SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET MULTIPLE BENEFITS FROM THIS PROJECT. NOW THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER STRATEGIC PORITIES FUNDS SHOULD BE USED IT OR NOT IS A GOOD QUESTION. AN OPEN QUESTION. I MADE THE SAME CONCERNS AND I THOUGHT WELL YOU KNOW ONE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE THE NUMBERS. RIGHT. THERE'S MONEY THERE'S MONEY THERE THAT Q EXCUSE ME THERE'S MONEY THERE THAT IS CONTINGENCY AND STUFF LIKE THAT IT MAY NOT GET USED RIGHT AND I WOULD CERTAINLY EXPECT THAT ANY MONEY THAT WAS NOT USED COMES RIGHT BACK INTO THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES MONEY IT DOESN'T SITHERE IN MMUNITY DEVELOPED DEVELOPMENT TO BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT SO I CERTAINLY WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. AND THEN THE SECOND THING I'LL SAY ON THAT IS IF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WAS PUTTING THIS MONEY ASIDE OVER TIME WHICH YOU KNOW WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT IT TAKE THEM TEN OR 12 YEARS TO GET TO THE FUNDING LEVEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THAT EFFICIENCY DURING THAT TIME EVEN THOUGH WE AS COUNSEL HAVE ASKED THEM TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND MAKE THESE STRATEGIC CHANGES SO I THINK OF IT MORE LIKE A LOAN THAN A LIKE A STRATEGIC PRIORITIES LIKE GIFT IF YOU WILL, IN THE SENSE THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT BACK IN A COUPLE OF WAYS STRATEGICALLY RIGHT ONE BETTER EFFICIENT USE OF THE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO. NUMBER TWO, THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE OF THEM TO MOVE REVENUE GENERATING PROJECTS THROUGH THE CITY IN A BETTER WAY LIKE ALL THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WE WANT THEM DO IN OUR, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL NODES FOR EXAMPLE AND THEN THREE, WE WILL GET SOME OF THE MONEY BACKUST BY VIRTU OF THE OF THE FACT THAT THIS PROBABLY WON'T COST AS MUCH AS WE'RE ESTIMATING WILL BECAUSE THAT THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S CARRYOVER AND OTHER LIKE THAT THAT THEY CAN FIND SO THAT'S THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON IT AND THAT'S WHY I'M COOL WITH IT THANKS BEFORE YOU RESPOND COUNCILMEMBER I LIKE TO LET OTHERS WAY INTO IT AND SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE A LOT OF WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID. I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I WANT TO THANK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR CARLA HENDERSON. THERE WAS SO MUCH STAFF ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT INTO THIS AND POST NOT TO SAY WE'RE LIKE POST-PANDEMIC. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT NOW THAT WE'RE AT THIS POINT THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS COMPANIES RETHINKING HOW PEOPLE COME BACK TO WORK OR IF THEY'RE WORKING FULL TIME THE OFFICE OR NOT, YOU KNOW, AND AND HAVING TO SPEND RESOURCES ON THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. AND SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO ME THAT THAT WE'RE HERE AND THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY HAVE STAFF WORKING TOGETHER. AND AGAIN FROM A LEADERSHIP PERSPECTIVE JUST THINK IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO CARLA'S LEADERSHIP THAT I MEAN SHE SPENT OVER A YEAR ENGAGING WITH STAFF, GETTING THEIR INPUT IN THE DESIGN AND THE LAYOUT AND YOU KNOW HOW, THINGS FUNCTIONALLY SHOULD WORK AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER LEADERSHIP IN THIS SPACE, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I ALSO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND I AND YOU KNOW ME I LOVE THE KIND OF LONGER TERM STRATEGIC GOAL SETTING CONVERSATIONS AND I DO WELCOME THAT CONVERSATION ESPECIALLY AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE REALLY WANT TO USE THOSE FUNDS AND NOT KIND OF HAVE THIS MORE REACTIVE LIKE AND NOW HERE'S THIS THING AND NOW HERE'S THIS THING SO TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT BUT OTHERWISE DO PLAN ON SUPPORTING THE PROPOSAL PUT FORTH JUST TONIGHT BECAUSE I DO THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THE WORKS THAT WE WANT SEE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE CITY COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU AND A TRUTH ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO WEIGH IN YOU KNOW CERTAINLY I'M NOT OPPOSEDO THE REMEL I CARLINO THAT AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE FINE WORK NOT OPPOSE THAT THE KEY TO MY ISSUE HERE IS THE USE OF THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY DOLLARS YOU KNOW AND YOU KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO GO ON AND DO THAT THAT'S THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE BUT FROM A YOU KNOW FROM A RESPONSIBILITY IN TERMS OF HOW WE WE DO THIS, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT ,YOU KNOW, WHAT WHAT PRECEDENTS WERE STARTING HERE AND AGAIN I THINK THIS IS A FINE WAY IF WE IF WE AGREE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOT ONLY WITH THIS DEPARTMENT BUT WE WANT TO DO THIS WITH MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS. THINK THERE ARE OTHER YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAD MENTIONED ,YOU KNOW, SAFETY. YOU KNO THERE'STHER PARTS OF THEITY THAT THINK WE NEED TO UPGRADE THE SAFETY AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS AND AREAS I'D LIKE US TO TO TO LOOK AT TRYING TO DO THAT. AND SO TO JUST SIMPLY SPEND THIS ON HERE AND THEY KIND OF STOP THE CONVERSATION THAT HAS A CONCERN FOR ME. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE MANAGER. MANAGER, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE LAST TIME THIS AREA WAS RENOVATED COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN I DON'T RECALL THAT IT HAS BEEN OTHER THAN SOME MOVING AROD OF WK STATION IN THE PLANNING AREA BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A WHOLESALE CHANGE IN IN RECENT MEMORY. MOST OF THE WORK STATIONS ARE THE ORIGINAL WORK STATIONS THE BUILDING. THEN MY LAST QUESTION A MANAGER IS SEEMINGLY WE HAVE YOU KNOW, SOME LARGE INVESTMENTS UP WITH THE SALES PIECE WHERE YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING THAT MAY ALSO SHIFT AND ADJUST THE PARKS AND RECREATION AREA WOULD BE AS WELL HOW WOULD WE DEAL WITH THOSE CHANGES AND THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WE THAT ARE COMING WITH WITH THE CITY'S DEPARTMENTS AND IN THE LIFE THAT WE HAVE HERE I JUST WANT MAKE SURE THIS IS THIS A ONE TIME THING? ARE WE INTENDING TO DO THIS MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER THIS? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. WE ARE ACTUALLY COMMISSIONING A SPACE STUDY TO LOOK AT THOSE TYS OF FUTURE ISSUES BECAUSE I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT YOU THE NATURE OF THIS PROJECT AND NOT WANTING TO DO THESE THINGS PIECEMEAL WE FEEL THE SAME WAY BUT AGAIN WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW THIS, IS A LITTLE BIT OF A BYPRODUCT OF A SERVICE ASSESSMENT THAT WE DID THE SPACE STUDY ANALYSIS WE'LL LOOK THOSE ISSUES FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 5 AND INTENDED AND YEARS AND BEYOND BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER WE DO HAVE OTHER SPACES IN THE BUILDIN LIKE MENTIONED WHERE WE HAVE SOME SAFETY CONCERNS WHERE WE HAVE SPACE UTILIZATION CONCERNS AND WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT OTHER SPACES THAT ARE BEING USED FOR STORAGE AND YOU KNOW, OTHER EXPANSION NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. SO IF THE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX PASSES AND, WE DO INDEED MOVE SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS INTO A NEW BUILDING THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THE SPACE STUDY. ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS HOPEFULLY WILL BE ANSWERED OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, HOPEFULLY LESS WHEN WE CONDUCTING THAT STUDY. AND I ALSO WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON A COMMENT FROM COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO REGARDING THE BUDGET ESTIMATES YOU ARE CORRECT WE ALWAYS INCLUDED CONTINGENCY IN OUR PROJECT COST AND A PROJECT LIKE THIS I THINK WE HAVE EARLIER WELL IDENTIFIED WHAT THE PROJECT'S COSTS ARE SO WE WILL MANAGE THAT CONTINGENCY VERY CAREFULLY AND I THINK HAVING DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL WOULD GOOD ON WHERE YOU WANT THOSE RESIDUAL FUNDS TO GO WE COULD PUT THEM BACK A THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD OR 80 BASIS ON SOURCES SO EACH REPORT YEAH STRATEGIC PRIORITIES GETS A PRO-RATED OF WHAT THEY CONTRIBUTED OR YOU CAN SAY WE WANT IT ALL TO GO TO PRIORITIES OR YOU CAN ALLOCATE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TONIGHT BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IT. TO WRAP THIS UP I JUST YOU KNOW, GIVEN YOU KNOW WE HAVE THIS AND WE'VE GOT ALSO LATER ON THE LEVY LATER ON TODAY AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO YOU KNOW, GET THAT INFORMATION LATER ON AND THEN WE CAN'T REACT TO THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LEVY LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE THERE ARE NEEDS OUT THERE FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS SAFETY NEEDS THAT ARE THERE SO GIVEN I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH FOLKS UP HEREO SUPPORT IT I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN TODAY UNLESS I COULD SEE THAT PLAN AS A PART OF THIS PLAN THAT LOOK AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS A PART OF THIS. THAT'S WHAT A STRATEGIC PLAN SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION. THIS COUNCILMEMBER WANTS TO SUPPORT STUFF AND I THINK THAT THIS LEADS US DOWN A ROAD OF WE TALK ABOUT TRYING TO CONTROL SPENDING. THIS IS A WAY IN WHICH WE'VE GOT TO CONTROL OUR SPENDING. WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THIS BECAUSE IF WE START DOING IT HERE AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS BUT WE NEED TO BE PLANFUL IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE DOING THIS AND SO I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO SPEND OUR BUDGET IN THIS THIS FASHION THIS WAY . DULY NOTED. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS I WILL SAY COUNCILMEMBER I AGREE WITH AND WITH BOTH YOU AND WITH MR. BRUYERE AND THAT IDEALLY YOU'RE DOING THIS IN A PIECEMEAL FASHION NOT IDEAL BUT IT'S ALSO NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE IT. WE WITHIN THE PAST YEAR OR SO WE APPROVED UPGRADES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE INCLUDED UP UPGRADES TO TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OVER THE YEARS FROM FUNDS PERHAPS BUTN DIFFERENT WAYS WE FOUND THE MONEY WHEN WE'VE SEEN THE NEED WE'VE WE'VE MADE THE INVESTMENT TO IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE DEPARTMENT SO IDEAL NO SETTING A PRIOR WILL THIS SET THE THE WAY WE THE PATH FORWARD THE WAY WE ALWAYS DO IT AND I WOULDN'T AGREE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE EITHER BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS TYPE OF THING AND IF WE DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. SO IN THIS CASE IF IF THE BELIEF IS THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THIS TIME WITH THIS ONE. SO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MAYOR IF I MAY MR.. THE NINE COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS IS A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT WHICH DOES REQUIRE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO PASS IT. I THINK YOU HAVE TWO ACTIONS. I THINK YOU HAVE THE PROJECT ITSELF AND THE THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THANK YOU MR. BREA COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN I'M HAPPY MAKE THE MOTION TO COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN THANK YOU MAYOR I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER $419,433 FROM THE 4200 STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND TO THE 7700 FACILITIE FUND TO COMPLE FUNDING NECESSARY F THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REMODEL PROJECT. WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ESSENTIALLY WHAT COUNCILMEMBER READ WAS TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.4 IN TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MY MOTION CARRIES FIVE ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU WOULD YOU LIKE THE WHOLE HONOR CAN I JUST MOTION OF THE 3.5 I'M SURE MY MAN RICHARD WOULD APPREATE IF YOU WOULD READ IT READ IN OUR RECORD BRIEFLY MAYOR I WILL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF FURNITURE FOR THE REMODEL OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OMNIA AND SOURCE WHILE COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS FROM INTERIM FOR A TOTAL COST OF 535 $12.25 SECOND MOTION MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.5 AND TONIGHT'S COUNCIL CONSENT AGENDA SEE I GET TO DO THE SHORTHAND BUT NOW THAT IT'S IN THE RECORD ANY SO ITEM 3.5 AND TONIGHT'S COUNCIL CONSENT IS THIS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION 36 ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. WE WILL MOVE ON IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO OUR ITEM FOUR WHICH IS OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 4.1 WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATN OF THE PRELIMINARY 2024 TAX LEVY WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT CARRIE AH ,I'M GOING TO CALL YOU A BUDGET MANAGER AND I KNOW THAT CITY FINANCE DEPUTY FINANCE I KNEW THAT WAS OUTDATED TITLE I APOLOGIZE DEPUTY FINANCE DIRECTOR GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MARION. COUNCILMEMBERS THIS EVENING IS THE NIGHT THAT THE COUNCIL WILL PASS RESOLUTIONS TO SET THE PRELIMINARY 2024 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET F CITY REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THIS TO HENNEPIN COUNTY BY THE END OF THE MONTH . THOUGH AS A REMINDER THE PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY AMOUNT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT CAN BE LEVIED NEXT YEAR. THE COUNCIL CAN LOWER THIS AMOUNT OF THE DECEMBER 4TH TRUTH IN TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING BUT IT CANNOT BE SO HERE'S THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING SIMILAR TO OUR DISCUSSION FROM LAST MONTH ABOUT THE BUDGET I WILL QUICKLY REVIEW OUR BUDGETARY APPROACH THE INCREASED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE THE KEY BUDGET FACTORS A PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY IMPACTS TO THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME WE'VE ADDED IN HERE A COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES THAT WE DID NOT HAVE LAST MONTH AS WELL AS A GRAPHIC FOR AN ALLOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED 24 TAX DOLLAR AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS SOME DATES ON THE BUDGET CALENDAR AND THAT'S STILL TO COME . SO AS A REVIEW THIS BUDGET CONTINUES THE CITY'S IN PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S STRUCTURED TO MAINTAIN THE CITY SERVICES THAT RESIDENTS VALUE AND EXPECT AND THERE HAS BEEN A FOCUS ON THE STRATEGIC ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES AND THE BUDGET REQUESTS ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER AND FINALLY CITY STAFF AND THE COUNCIL HAVE INCREASED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. THE WORK TONCLUDE THE VOICES OF RESIDENTS IN OUR BUDGET IN WAYS THAT WE HAD NOT DONE BEFORE. SO WE'VE BEEN ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY GATHERING FEEDBACK ON WHAT RESIDENTS VALUE AND PRIORITIZE SINCE WE'VE BEEN AT THE NORMANDALE LAKE BANDSHELL CONCERTS, EVENTS AT FARMERS MARKETS, KIDS SHOWS AT THE PARKS ACROSS THE CITY AND AND OPEN HOUSES FOR DEPARTMENTS AND WE'VE MADE A POINT THIS YEAR TO NOT ONLY GET TO A GREATER NUMBER OF EVENTS BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THOSE EVENTS ARE IN DIFFERENT PARTS THE CITY IN DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY AND ON DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK. AND PEOPLE THAT ARE BRINGING THOSE EVENTS HAVE INCLUDED NOT ONLY ME OR JUST FINANCE STAFF BUT DEPARTMENT HEADS AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL WHICH WE GREATLY APPRECIATE. SO AT THE TIME THAT THIS PRESENTATION PUBLISHED ON SEPTEMBER 13TH WE HAD BEEN AT 11 EVENTS AND WE JUST HAD ANOTHER BUDGET TABLE AT THE FARMER'S MARKET YESTERDAY OUR SATURDAY A SO AT THIS TIME WHEN THIS PRESENTATION WAS PUBLISHED WE HAD INTERACTED WITH 673 RESIDENTS. NOW WE ARE CLOSE TO 800 AND TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SATURDAY. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE STOP BY AND THE FIRE CHIEF ULYSSES WAS WITH ME AS WELL AS RENE CLARKE FROM PARKS AND RECREATION. SO THE NUMBER OF RESIDENT INTERACTIONS HAS BEEN WONDERFUL AND I ALSO HAVE AN UPDATED SLIDE HEREUST A B OF A REVIEW WITH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ANOTHER EVENT SINCE THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO YOU . SO AS A REMINDER WE'VE GOT ON OUR BUDGET TABLE THAT WE HAVE OUT AT EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE THE TABLE TOP BUDGET DISPLAY WITH THAT INFORMATION BOARD WITH THE SIX INDIVIDUAL CANISTERS THAT ARE LABELED IN THE SIGNS HERE ARE SHOWN AS WHAT'S ON THAT TABLE THAT DISPLAY AND AS A REVIEW AGAIN THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ARE PARKS, ARTS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES, FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH, PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTHY COMMUNITY AND A CONNECTED WALKING. AND A LOT OF THESE MIRROR OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES PLAN AND THE PEOPLE WHO BY WE GIVE THEM 1010 TOKENS AND THEY'RE ASKED FOR THOSE TOKENS AND CANISTERS WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S TEN TOKENS THAT REPRESENT PROPERTY TAXES, MONEY AND SIX DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF CITY SPENDING AND THEY CAN PUT THEM ALL IN ONE OR THEY CAN SPLIT THEM OUT THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKEO SHOW TIR PRIORITS FOR T COUNCIL. AND THEN WE ALSO ALWAYS HAVE A FREE FORM PAGE LIKE POSTERS SET UP WHERE THEY CAN WRITE COMMENTS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL AND THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND PUBLISHED AND YOU'RE IN THE PUBLIC COUNCIL AGENDA MATERIALS FOR YOU TO SEE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT LOT OF INPUT AND AS WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT WE KNOW THAT THESE RESULTS ARE NOT STATISTICALLY JUST HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC WHEN WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND JUST A WAY TO ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO SHARE THEIR PRIORITIES WITH US AND ALSO AN EDUCATION ON AND SO THAT PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT WORKS AND THEN MONEY ON AND THEN THEY CAN LET US KNOW WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. SO ONE THING THAT'S CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME AS FAR AS THE IN-PERSON IS THE THE NUMBER THREE ROLE IT'S LIKE IT'S STILL THE FIRST ONE THAT WE THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF CHIPS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CATEGORIES WAS FOR PARKS, ARTS RREATION NATUR FOLLOWED CLOSELY BY PUBLIC SAFETY BUT IT WENT FROM FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO HEALTHY COMMUNITY AFTER WE THE ONLINE MUSIC FESTIVAL SO THAT WAS THERE WAS A LOT SUPPORT FOR THAT CATEGORY AT THAT EVENTS THAT WAS INTERESTING AND THEN ALONG WITH IN-PERSON OH I WENT TO I'M SORRY I WAS I NEEDED TO BE MORE PATIENT WE HAVE OUR VIRTUAL OPTIONS WELL SO W HAVE A F MORE RESPONSES FROM THE LAST TIME WE SHARED THIS AND THAT'S AWESOME THIS IS THE COMMENTS ARE ALSO IN THE IN THE AGENDA PACKET MATERIALS THERE'S 175 WRITTEN RESPONSES BUT IN ADDITION TO THOSE IN-PERSON INTERACTIONS, 268 RESIDENTS HAVE FILLED OUT THE PRIORITY RELATED SURVEY ON LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON SITE AND AS I SAID THE LAST TIME WE SAW THOSE RESULTS THEY WERE IN THE EXACT ORDER AS THE IN-PERSON TOTALS BUT NOW THEY'RE A LITTLE DFERENT AND THAT ONLE IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY IS RANKED AS THE HIGHEST BECAUSE THEY RANKED THEM FROM ONE THROUGH SIX AND THEN OH THAT'S CHANGED. SO YEAH SOME PUBLIC SAFETY IS A LITTLE HIGHER THEN PARKS IS SECOND AND THEN FACILITIES THIRD SO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO THAT'S PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THEN FACTORS AFFECTING THE BUDGET REQUEST JUST REVIEW OF THE LODGING TAX REVENUES AND HIGHLIGHTED IN RED THERE IS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS IN 2020 DURING THE PANDEMIC AND HOW MUCH THAT FELL FROM 2019 ONE THAT YOU SEE FOR 2024 WE ARE PROJECTING THAT TO COME ALMOST BACK UP TO WHERE WE WERE AND THEN OUR MISSION REVENUES HAVE WENT WAY DOWN IN 2020. OF COURSE BUT HAVE SURPASSED WHERE WE WERE IN 2019. THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME FOR OUR PERMIT REVENUES THAT WOULD REALLY HELP WITH OUR BUDGET BALANCING A LOT BUT WE HAD SOME REALLY HIGH YEARS FOR PERMIT REVENUES AND 22 AND IN PREVIOUS AND A 23.4 THE 2024 BUDGET IS PROJECTED TO BE LOWER THAN WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS YEAR AND GET CLOSER TO PROPOSING THAT FINAL TAX LEVY. BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS LOOK LIKE . SO MOVING OVER TO EXPENSES ON THE EXPENSE SIDE AS THEY HAD SAID, THERE ARE THREE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT ARE DRIVING CITY EXPENSES NEXT YEAR AND THE FIRST IS A LABOR MARKET PRESSURE. UNEMPLOYMENT IN MINNESOTA IS AT A RECORD LOW RATE AND COMPETITIVE SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE NEEDED TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN SKILLED PERSONNEL. THE SECOND EXPENSE DRIVER IS, YOU KNOW, BLOOMINGTON'S CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THAT PROPOSAL TO ADD 16 FIREFIGHTERS IS IN THIS 2024 BUDGET TO HELP THE ONGOING TRANSITION TO A HYBRID PART TIME IN FULL TIME FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS ADDING ANOTHER DISPATCHER IN THE DISPATCH CENTER IS ALSO A COST DRIVER AND THAT AND THEN ANOTHER COST DRIVER IS JUST THE ECONOMIC VOLATILITY AFFECTING COSTS OF MATERIALS SERVICES WHICH IS NOT JUST UNIQUE TO BLOOMINGTONUT HER CITY GOVERENTS AND BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS ARE EXPERIENCING AS WELL. SO HERE'S JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT WAS DONE IN 2023. SO AND ALSO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN 24 SO IN 2321 FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS WERE ADDED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMEN 18 OF THOSE ARE FUNDED FROM A FEDERAL SAFER GRANT AND AND THEN THREE CAME FROM THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THEN IN 23S WELL FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS WERE ADDED AS WELL AS NEW DISPATCH TRAINING COORDINATOR. SO IN ADDITION TO THAT CONTINUING WITH THIS INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC SAFETY FOR 24 BUDGET WE HAVE SIX FULL TIME FIREFIGHTERS AND A NEW DISPATCHER AND SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST HAS THE 2024 STAFFING CHANGES. SO THEN TO JUST TALKED ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS AND DISPATCH BUT THEN I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION FROM PARKS AND RECREATION THESE ARE NOT NEW STAFFING POSITIONSUT IN A RE CLASS OF A PPOSED CLASS OF THREE STAFF POSITIONS FROM PART TIME TO FULL TIME IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE AND ADDRESS SERVICE NEEDS THAT ARE VERY MUCH NEEDED IN PARKS AND RECREATION . OKAY. SO THIS PRELIMINARY BUDGET REQUEST AS WE LOOKED AT IT BEFORE THIS RESULTS IN A 9.49% INCREASE FROM 23 AND THAT WOULD TRANSLATE INTO A 5.65% TAX INCREASE FOR THE MEDIAN VALU HOME AND THAT EQUATES TO $6.28 MORE A MONTH FOR 2024. SO AS I SAID BEFORE IN THE 2024 PRELIMINARY LEVELS THAT'S THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THE CITY CAN COLLECT AND PROPERTY TAXES FOR NEXT YEAR AND THE COUNCIL CAN LOWER THAT NUMBER AND DECEMBER 4TH. BUT ONCE THIS PRELIMINARY LEVY IS SET AND SUBMITTED TO HENNEPIN COUNTY IT CAN'T RAISE ABOVE THAT. I WANT TO SAY TO THAT IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER THERE WILL BE DEPARTMENT BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE IN IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS. SO AS YOU GET CLOSER TO SETTING THAT FINAL TAX LEVY AND BUDGET SO THIS BEFORE I TALKED ABOUT WHAT A 9.49% TAX LEVY INCREASE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME BY MONTH. SO IN THE MONTH THERE IT IS IN THE MIDDLE. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S AT $111.09 A MONTH IT WOULD GO UP $6.28. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO SEE THAT LIKE ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR AN ANNUAL BASIS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAT WOULD BE $75.34 FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BUDGET LAST MONTH. WE TALKED ABOUT LIKE NOT JUST THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME FOR THE ENTIRE CITY BUT JUST THE REQUEST TO KIND OF SEE HOW MAYBE THAT PLAYS OUT DIFFERENTLY ACROSS THE CITY. SO I REACHED OUT TO OUR ASSESSING DIVISION AND IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE WAY THAT CITY IS SPLIT UP ON THIS SLIDE, THESE ARE THE ASSESSING QUINTILES. SO THE CITIES DIVIDED IN FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY USE THAT IN ORDER TO DO A DEEP DOVE ASSESSMENT OF HOMES AND EACH ONE OF THOSE QUINTILES. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT IT MORE IN EACH OF THOSE SEPARATE SECTIONS AND THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME AND THOSE SECTIONS. SO IT'S NOT JUST SO LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME IT DOES CHANGE ACROSS THE CITY. SO OVER ON THE WEST FOR EXAMPLE IT'S DOLLARS $0.69 PER MONTH MORE WITH A 9.49% TAX ONLY FOR THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME . AND THEN YOU CAN SEE JUST GOING ACROSS THE TOP THERE IS $7.43 A MONTH MORE FOR 44 736 AND THEN DOWN SOUTH 995. SO JUST KIND OF ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT OTHER THAN JUST THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME FOR THE ENTIRE CITY AND THEN ANOTHER SLIDE WE'VE ADD IS THAT COMPARISON SLIDE. SO A LOT OF CITIES JUST LIKE US THEY'RE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW AND THERE THEIR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND THEY'RE THE COUNCILS SETTING THEIR PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY. SO THIS IS THE 2023 BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN 2023 COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES SO THIS IS THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME MONTH THAT IT'S IN RED THERE FROM BLOOMINGTON AT $111.09 AND JUST KIND OF WHERE WE FALL AND THESE OTHER CITIES THAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO THAT ARE EITHER IN COTY OR IN EIR ELSE A SIMILAR SIZE AS US AND COMPARABLE AND JUST ANOTHER KIND OF DIFFERENT WAY LIKE SOMETIMES WITH A LOT OF NUMBERS IT'S HARD TO GET A SENSE OF HOW THAT THE WHOLE PROPERTY TAX LEVY IS BEING ALLOCATED SO WE LIKE TO DO IT WE WILL WE USUALLY USE SOMETHING THIS WHEN WE SEND OUT THE NOTICE THAT GOES IN THE TRUTH IN TAXATION THAT NO NOTICE IN NOVEMBER SO YOU CAN SEE A MAJORITY OF PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO PUBLIC SAFETY WITH POLICE AND FIRE IS ABOUT HALF SO THIS IS REPRESENTING LIKE $1 OF PROPERTY CITY PROPERTY TAXES AND THEN THE NEXT SMALLEST $0.17 WOULD BE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THEN $0.14 FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. I WANT TO NOTE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THIS FOR THE 2023 PROPERTY TAX IT WOULD BE LARGER FOR PUBLIC WORKS COMPARED TO PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE WE HAVE SHTED A NUMBERF EMPLOYEES IN OUR MAINTENANCE DIVISION INTO PARKS AND RECREATION. SO NOW THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION ALLOCATION ARE MORE SIMILAR. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S CHANGED AND THEN $0.07 FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, $0.06 FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THEN $0.06 FOR CAPITAL THAT THESE ARE KIND OF REVIEW SLIDES THESE FIRST TWO JUST WANTED TO SHOW THESE AGAIN SO THIS IS A WHERE WEAKE THE INCREASE ANDHE PROPERTY T THAT THE NET OF EVERYTHING AND WE'RE ALLOCATING THEM IT ACROSS THOSE SERVICE DEPARTMENTS SO YOU KNOW FINANCE AND CITY MANAGER THOSE ARE GETTING ALLOCATED THESE BUT THESE ARE THE PUBLIC FACING AND THIS IS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO FOR YOU KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND HOW MUCH OF THIS TAX PROPERTY TAX INCREASE HOW MUCH IS CHANGING FOR EACH AND SO OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I'VE GONE BACK AND PUT AN ASTERISK AND NOTE BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WILL JUMP OUT TO YOU IS THAT PARKS AND RECREATION IS GOING UP A LOT AND PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING DOWN A LOT AND THAT AGAIN IS JUST ANOTHER WAY WHERE THAT SHIFT OF THE PARK MAINTENANCE DIVISION FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO PARKS AND RECREATION IMPACTING THIS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF HOW OUR MANAGING THAT AND THEN AGAINAME SLIDE THAT WE LOOKED AT BEFORE BUT ALSO IT I'M JUST A LITTLE FOOTNOTE THERE TO WHERE WE'RE BREAKING IT OUT BY SALARIES, INTERNAL CHARGES, MATERIAL SUPPLIES AND SERVICES AND THAT AND I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE A LOT NO SALARIES AND BENEFITS IS A BIG PART OF THE CITY'S BUDGET JUST BY THE OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. AND I JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THAT 5.3% DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE'S GETTING A 5.3% SALARY INCREASE THAT ALONG WITH THE PAY INCREASES IT ALSO HAS SOME PROPOSED ADDITIONAL STAFFI AS WELL AS CHANGES FOR BENEFITS. AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER SLIDE THAT WASN'T HERE BEFORE, JUST ANOTHER WAY TO TRY TO ANALYZE THIS IS THIS IS AGAIN IN THE ATTACK THE PROPOSED TAX LEVY INCREASE CHANGING FROM 23 AND THAT FIRST THE CURRENT LEVEL SERVICES THAT'S SORT LIKE LOOKING AT A RATE LIKE THE BASE BUDGET BUT THE STAFFING THAT WE HAD SERVICE CHARGES AND JUST WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THAT'S A 6.2% INCREASE AND THEN WITH A NEW STAFF ARE PROPOSING MOST OF THAT IS THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THEN THE NEW OPERATING EXPENSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING BUT IT'S WHEN THE WHEN THE DEPARTMENTS ARE PUTTING IN THEIR BUDGET REQUEST LIKE WHAT THINGS THAT ARE COSTING FAR AS THE REQUEST THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THAT'S ALREADY PRELOADED FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS OR FOR INTERNAL CHARGES. AND THEN AGAIN THAT DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE SO MYAST LINE HE I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW THE BUDGET CALENDAR AND SO HERE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER AT THE PRELIMINARY LEVY AND SO AS I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THINGS THAT GOING TO BE COMING UP IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF NOT ME TALKING IT'S GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENTS AND DIVING INTO THEIR BUDGET OCTOBER 9TH POLICE AND FIRE WILL BE OCTOBER 16TH PARKS AND RECREATION PUBLIC WORKS AND COMMUNITY SERVICES WILL BE PRESENTING AND THAT WILL ALSO BE THE NIGHT WILL WILL PRESENT PROPOSALS FOR UTILITY RATE RATES FOR 2024 AND THEN WE PLANNED FOR OCTOBER 30TH WHERE ECONOMY SOLDIERS WILL BE GOING OVER THE CAMP AS AS I HAVE A CHANCE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUND AND THEN NOVEMBER 13TH WILL BE THE DEPARTMENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND LEGAL PRESENTING THEIR BUDGETS AND THEN THAT'LL BRING US TO NOVEMBER 20TH WHI ISGAIN A SPECIAL BUDGET MEETING WHERE BE KIND OF FOCUSED IN ON WHERE YOU WANT THAT FINAL 2024 TAX LEVY AND BUDGET AND THEN DECEMBER FOURTH IS THE TRUTH AND TAXATION PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE NOTICED THAT THAT IS THE END OF MY SLIDES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL QUESTIONS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. DO IT BY LOOKING ATOU LONG ENOUGH. DIDN'T I KNOW? I'M ALWAYS IMPRESSED WHEN WHEN YOU COME UP HERE AND GIVE US THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S A LOT AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S JUST REAMS AND REAMS OF DATA THE STUFF THAT YOU PRESENT TO US THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE IN YOUR BRAIN WE COULD NEVER DO THAT AND THAT'S IT'S A KUDOS TO YOU ON THAT. I DID HAVE A I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE TWO. I APPRECIATED THAT YOU SAID YOU SHOWED THOSE TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT THE THE BUDGET DATA. THE FIRST ONE I THINK WAS MORE ON AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL AND THEN SECON ONE WAS ON KIND OF LIKE CONTINUATION OF SERVICES VERSUS NEW ADD. SO YOU COULD LEAVE IT HERE FOR NOW. SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE . YOU SAID THAT THE MAJORITY OF THAT NEW STAFF IS OUR FIREFIGHTERS CAN YOU GIVE ME AN APPROXIMATE UNDERSTANDING IS THAT 80% IS IT 50%? IT'S LIKE 90% 80%, YES. IT'S NORTH OF YES. YES. OKAY GREAT. THAT'S HELPFUL. SO IF YOU COULD GIVE ME MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF THE NEW OPERATING EXPENSE LINE ITEMS HERE TO UNDERSTAND SO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE IT IMPLIES THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THINGS EXACTLY AS WE'RE DOING THEM BUT THE WAY THAT YOU DESCRIBE NEW OPERATING EXPENSE IT MADE IT SOUND LIKE LIKE STUFF'S COSTING MORE SO MAYBE IF WE DIDN'T DO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE A GOOD EXAMPLE YOU CAN GIVE ME TO KIND OF ARTICULATE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAINTAINING A CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE VERSUS THESE NEW OPERATING EXPENSES. YES, MERE COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT THAT . IS IT? IT IS THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THINGS COST THAT INCREASED COSTS THE WAY OUR GENERAL LEDGER AND BUDGET IS STRUCTURED. I DON'T HAVE AN EASY WAY OF BREAKING THAT OUT FROM ALL OF THE PROPOSALS SO WE WERE ST TRYING TO BED ON HOW EVERYTHING IS SUBMITTED FOR THE BUDGET IT'S TO BREAK OUT THE SALARIES WITH THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS COSTS AND THE INTERNAL ALLOCATIONS AND AND SEGREGATE THAT AND IT'S EASY TO SEGREGATE THE NEW STAFF ADDS IT'S AND THEN I'M ABLE TO TAKE WE CALL THEM THE DISCRETIONARY BUDGET AMOUNTS AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY AMOUNTS THAT THE THAT THE DEPARTMENTS CAN YOU KNOW REQUEST OR ADD TO OR CHANGE AND SO THAT'S THAT BY ITSELF SO WITHIN THERE IS MAYBE A LITTLE BOTH LIKE THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS IN THERE WHERE THEY'RE REQUESTING SOME NEW SERVICES OR MAYBE A STUDY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS IS YOU KNOW JUST IN THE GENERAL FUND BUT THEN A LOT OF IT IS ALSO JUST THE UTILITY COSTS ARE GOING UP OR THE COST OF SALT IS INCREASING OR THINGS THAT SO WE CAN MAYBE TRY TO BREAK THAT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT AS FAR AS AN EASY WAY TO TO EXTRACT THAT OUT AND PRESENT IT. YEAH THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT IT HERE. SO IT'S KIND OF OUR FIRST TRY OF TRYING TO DO IT LIKE THIS. SURE. NO, I THINK A REALLY INTERESTING WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. SO YOU KNOW AT A VERY FIRST BLUSH I WOULD SAY OKAY, WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME HERE IS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE, WE NEED TO ADD WE NEED TO NEED TO GET 6.2% MORE DOLLARS IN THERE BECAUSE OF STUFF COSTING MORE, RIGHT. OR WHATEVER IT IS. AND I AND GET THAT S THAT'S EASY AND YOU KNOW NEW STAFF WE CAN ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE BUT 90% IS FOR SO OUR FIREFIGHTERS WE KNEW THAT WAS COMING IT'S IN THAT 1.59% THAT I'D REALLY LOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL BECAUSE WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS I TALKED TO WHEN I TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS OFTENTIMES WHAT I SAY TO THEM IS I KNOW NOBODY TO BE CHARGED TAX LITY LIKE I'M A HOMEOWNER. I DON'T LIKE IT EITHER. OKAY. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, ARE WE SURE THAT WE'RE IT AGAINST THE THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD US ARE THE PRIORITIES SO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT 1.59% I WANT TO KNOW THAT IN ORDER LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED ,YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY PARKS AND REC AND YOU KNOW, SERVICES OR WHATEVER WE CALLED IT FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE THOSE ARE THE THREE BIG ONES AGAINST THAT I WOULD EXPECT SEE THAT BEING THE LION'S SHARE OF THOSE NEW OPERATING EXPENSES BECAUSE THAT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR DISTRICT WITH THE PRIORITIES THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE SHARED WITH US. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THERE BUT IF WE COULD GET THERE I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY HELUL WAY FOR M TO UNDERSTAND THAT NUMR BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THOSE THINGS UNLESS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT UP HERE AS A COUNCIL AND WE CAN SAY YEAH WE WE'VE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID RESIDENTS BUT WE THINK THAT THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT AND WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS ANYWAY EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T SHOW UP ON YOUR RADAR A STRATEGIC PRIORITY FOR YOU AS A AS A RESIDENT? THAT'S A HARDER CONVERSATION TO HAVE BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT EYES WIDE OPEN. I GUESS IS SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ASKING FOR TOO MUCH BUT IF THAT 1.1 MILLIONAN KIND OFET BROKEN DOWN AGAST YOUR YOUR YOUR BUCKETS FROM YOUR FROM YOUR YOUR COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD BE. I THINK BE REALLY HELPFUL WAY TO LOOK AT THAT YES MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND WE CAN DO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT AND IT MIGHT ALSO PART OF OUR IN THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS AS WELL SO WE'RE DOING EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS WE CAN SHARE THAT TOO. OKAY. ONE PART OF THAT IS THERE'S GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS. LOTS OF ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN IF WE COULD GO BACK TO SLIDE 15. OH YEAH. I CAN'T SEE NUMBERS. I MEAN IT'S I CAN IT'S THE SLIDE YOU LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL ASSESSMENT REVIEW AREA. YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE. SO WITH THIS ONE HERE I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND I KIND OF HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THIS THE THING THAT I JUS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT SO FOR THAT QUADRANT THERE ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT THE MEDIAN INCOME SO THAT 9.1 OVER THERE BECAUSE WHAT I'M REALLY IN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO EVEN DO THIS IS WHEN YOU GET DOWN BACK BEHIND THE MEDIAN FOLKS BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT IF LET'S SAY WE WE TOOK THE YOU KNOW, THE FIRST QUARTILE OF PEOPLE YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE SAW THE BIGGEST INCREASES AND THAT WAS NOT SHOWN IN OUR LAST WHEN WE DID OUR LAST LEVY INCREASE. THAT WAS WHAT I KEPT HERE AS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR IS HEY, YOU KNOW I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS MEDIAN INCOME INCREASE BUT MY YOU KNOW, STUFF IS GOING UP 12, 13, 14, YOU KNOW, 20% AND IT'S JUST NOT HERE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS BODY DOES FOR THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO WITH , YOU KNOW, HAVING A YOU KNOW, HAVING THE STYLE OF TAXATION THAT WE HAVE. BUT I THINK IT'S MORE INDICATIVE OF WHAT WHAT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE AS THEY'RE AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. I KNOW THAT'S WHY WE STICK WITH THE MEDIAN AND EVERY TIME WE GET OFF THAT MEDIAN IT CAN BE A COULD BE A REALLY CRAZY EXERCISE. SO I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A BIG HUGE THING BUT IF THERE WAS MAYBE WE COULD TAKE MAYBE JUST ONE OF THESE SEGMENTS AND JUST LOOK AT A FEW LIKE A SCATTERED PLOT OF A COUPLE A YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT ARE MEDIAN INCOME THAT FALLS BELOW THAT THAT NUMBER TO SEE WHAT THEIR IMPACT WOULD BE OR WHAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE PAST. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M ASKING HERE? YES. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS LOWMAN WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. IS IT JUST I THINK IT IS JUST A LITTLE EASIER FOR FOR FOLKS TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHAT THAT IMPACT MAY BE. YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE MEDIAN WE HAVE ABOVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE THINGS ARE HIGHER THAN THAT AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT I JUST THINK IT'S A YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE THAT THAT LOOK KIND OF SEE AS WE LOOK AT THIS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION I HAVE A CLARIFICATION REQUEST FOR COUNCILMEMBER LEMON. YOU'VE SAID INCOME BUT THIS IS MEDIAN HOME VALUE. SO THIS IS PROPERTY VALUE NOT INCOME SOURCE. AND I THINK WE'RE TKING SAME THING HERE. I SAID THE WRONG THING SORRY I'M VERY TIRED WITH THE NEW BABY SO I JUST I WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY I DON'T DISAGREE THAT A GOOD IDEA BUT I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE WERE ABOUT THE SAME NUMBERS. THAT'S ALL I THINK WE'RE TALKING THE SAME NUMBERS RIGHT WHERE YOU UNDERSTOOD. ME TOO. EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT? WHAT I'M ASKING YES. YES. I WAS ASSUMING YOU'RE ONE IN THE MEDIAN VALUE AT THE LOWER END. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. AND THE MEDIAN VALUE HOME SOME SCATTERED LOWER VALUE HOMES IN THOSE AREAS ACROSS THE CITY AND WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THIS TAX LEVY INCREASE WOULD HAVE ON THOSE HOMES. YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING I MEAN IT'S BIGGER I DON'T KNOW I'D JUST BE INTERESTED TO SEE IT AND HAVE ONE OF THE QUESTION FOR YOU I KNOW IN 2023 WE DID DO AN INCREASE FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT ACROSS MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS TO SEE THAT WE ARE KNOW FALLING BEHIND IN OUR RANKS WITH HOW MANY POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE. AND I NOTICE THAT FOR YEAR WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCREASE TO THAT THAT GROUP AS A PART OF THE REQUEST. AND I WAS CURIOUS WHY THERE ISN'T AN INCREASE TO KEEP YOU KNOW, KEEP UP WITH THAT OR INCREASE THE RANKS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO I HAVEN'T HIGHLIGHTED OUT THE YOU KNOW WE BUDGETED INCREASES KIND OF FORECASTED FOR SALARIES AND BENEFITS ACROSS THE CITY AND POLICE ARE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT UNIONS WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT SO THEY'RE IN CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS BUT FOR THE 24 CONTRACT BUT I HAVEN'T BROKEN OUT WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY AS FAR AS I MEAN INFORMATION IT'S ALL PART OF LIKE THE SALARIES ALL GROUPED TOGETHER SO SO IS NEW OFFICERS BEING PROPOSED FOR 2024? THERE'S ALSO I KNOW THERE'S WE DON'T HAVE A NEW POLICE OFFICERS IN THIS BUDGET AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR YOU, MAYBE IT'S FOR MANAGER QUESTIONS AND I'M NOT SURE IF THE MANAGER STILL EVEN IS STILL AN OWNER YEARS AGO AND I THINK THE THAT MR. VERBRUGGE CAN JUMP ON HERE BUT I THE GENERAL ANSWER IS THAT AFTER ADDING FOUR LAST YEAR FOR NEW OFFICERS LAST YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE DECADE TO ADD OFFICERS TO THE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THE I THINK THE ASSUMPTION AND THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY'VE THEY'VE FORCED OUT FOR A WHILE THEY'VEOT THE THEY'RE LOOKING NOW AT DISPATCHERS TO INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT THERE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WITH THAT'S WHAT CHIEF HODGES IS LOOKING AT NOW IN TERMS OF FULL, FULL, FULL FORCE FOR NOW WHETHER THAT CHANGES IN THE FUTURE THAT COULD BE YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST BUT THE WAY HE BROUGHT FORWARD THE BUDGET REQUEST TO THE TO THE CITY MANAGER, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS WHERE HE NEEDED BE AT THIS TIME. SO LET'S LET'S REALLY LET THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, IF I MAY JUMPN MAYOR'S SUMMA IS IS ACCURATE. I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT POLICE STAFFING OPTIONS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WHEN WE HAVE THE POLICE AND FIRE BUDGET CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER WHAT THE THE STAFFING OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE LIKELY ONES THAT ARE GOING TO NOT AFFECT THE LEVY YOU KNOW WILL RELATE TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING THAT IS COMING FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND POIBLY SOME OTHEROURCES THAT WE CAN DCUSS THE STAFFING ISSUES WHEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET CONTROL ORDER. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THAT FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR AND WHEN THE CHIEF I HADN'T HEARD THAT THERE HAD BEEN A CHANGE IN THAT SO THAT'S WHY I WAS CONCERNED I DIDN'T SEE ANY INCREASE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETHING HAD CHANGED YOU KNOW WHAT HAD HAPPENED WITH THAT. I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGERS THAT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO TRY TO GET AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WHICH I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU. THIS MIGHT BE ALONG THE SAME LINES AND MAYBE THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE ANSWERING BEFORE BUT SO IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 18 SO YOU HAVE THE TAX LEVY INCREASE BY DEPARTMENT AND SO WITH POLICE IT'S A THE PERCENT CHANGE FROM 2023 IS 2.5% 2.56% FIRES 2.1. SO FIRE WE'RE HIRING SIX POSITIONS. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND FOR POLICE THERE WAS ONE DISPATCHER BUT THAT'S IT'S KIND OF IT JUST KIND OF JUMPS OUT TO ME AS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE WITH ONE NEW STAFF IT'S LIKE A BIGGER INCREASE IN FIRE SEEING WITH SIX NEW STAFF SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH THAT INCREASE OF LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? SO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I CAN DIG INTO THAT TO GET SOME MORE DETAILS ON THERE BUT JUST THINKING WHAT IS IN THAT POLICE BUDGET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES SO JUST THE AMOUNT SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NECESSARILY A 2.56% INCREASE OVERALL IN THE POLICE BUDGET BUT LIKE TAKING THE AMOUNT BECAUSE NOT EVERYTHING IN THE GENERAL FUND IS FUNDED BY PROPERTY BUT BUT EVEN JUST THE SALARY INCREASE FOR THE STAFF THAT THEY HAVE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN THE BUDGET SO THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS DRIVING THAT BUT I CAN GET THE DETAILS OF THAT. YES. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I JUST WANTED DONE LOOKING AT THE THE OTHER STAFFING INCREASE THE IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT PARKING REC AND I KNOW THAT TWOF THE MOVEMENTS FROM PART TIME TO FULL TIME THEY'RE COST NEUTRAL BASED ON COST REDUCTIONS AND I IN DOING A LITTLE DIGGING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER A NEW POSITION IS ACTUALLY AN ADD BACK FROM A POSITION THAT WAS CUT BACK IN 2021 OR SO AND IT WAS SOMETHING HAD SAID IN THE PAST THAT WE WEREN'T SIMPLY IN THE MOST CASES IN MOST CASES WE WEREN'T JUST ADDING BACK STAFF THAT WE CUT DURING THE THE OR TIMES OF DURING THE PANDEC. WE WEREN'T SIMPL DOING THA BUT IN THIS CASE WE ARE AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR PROGRAMING AT CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR FOR SENIOR PROGRAMING. AND AGAIN AS WE TALK ABOUT A BUDGET THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES AND THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY PROGRAMING STAFFING DOING WHAT WE CAN FOR OUR SENIORS AT CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER KIND OF FITS THAT BILL VERY NICELY AND I AND I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY POINT SAY NOT YOU SAID YOU'VE SAID ALL ALONG THAT YOU WEREN'T SIMPLY ADDING BACK STAFF THAT YOU'VE BACK IN 2020 IN THIS CASE WE ARE BUT IT' FOR A SCIFIC NEED AND IT'S FOR THE NEED AT CREEKSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER FOR OUR SENIOR PROGRAMING THERE DID I SUMMARIZE THAT CORRECTLY? YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I WILL ALSO ADD THAT MAKING THAT POSITION FULL TIME ALLOWS PARKS AND RECREATION TO BE TO OFFER MORE PROGRAMING THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE PARK SYSTEM MASTER PLAN AS AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT THAT THEY HEARD. SO THIS IS IN A RESPONSE TO THAT. WELL. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR TO THE POINT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE PART TIME FULL TIME MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IN PAST YEARS I THOUGHT WE HAD MADE A CHANGE WHERE WE MADE HEALTH CARE AVAILABLE TO PART TIME EMPLOYEES. IS THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOES THAT HAPPEN? IS THAT ONGOING IS THAT AVAILABLE TO ALL OF OUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES? IS THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT AT ALL TO THESE MOVES OR OTHER MOVES THAT MAY BE MADE IN THE FUTURE ? SOME MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBER AND WOMAN FOR PART TIME EMPLOYEES THEY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE UNLESS THEY WORK OVER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS AS REQUIRED TO OFFER HEALTH INSURANCE. SO THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE THAT FIT THAT WHAT WE HAVE CHANGED IN MORE RECENT YEARS IS OFFERING PAID TIME OFF FOR PART TIME EMPLOYEES SO THAT THAT THAT WAS A BENEFIT THAT WAS ADDED WE SEE THAT IN THE ACCRUED BENEFITS FUND WHERE WE HAVE TO ACCRUE THE PAID TIME OFF. PART OF THAT NOW IS BECAUSE ALL OF PART TIME EMPLOYEES DO ARE ABLE TO ACCRUE TIME AND HAVE PAID TIME OFF. SO WHAT'S THE CUTOFFHAT WE HAVE FORS IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHEN THE CUTOFF IS FOR THAT? SO IF BENEATH THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO COVER YOU IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS THIS KIND OF ENVIRONMENT TOO AS WELL IS KIND OF STICKING TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THE LEVY IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR EMPLOYEES. SO I'M NOT AND I THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME IT WAS PTO I COULD REMEMBER WHAT THE BENEFIT WAS THAT WE HAD PROVIDED FOR FOLKS THIS THAT MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THAT IS SOMETHING I WILL NEED TO RESEARCH WITH OUR AGING APARTMENT. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT THAT ANY EMPLOYEE WORKING 30 HOURS OR MORE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS HAS TO BE OFFERED INSURANCE AND THAT'S THE THE PRACTICE THAT WE HAVE WAS LAW AND GIVEN THAT WE'VE WE'VE ABOUT EQUITY INCLUSION I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OF THOSE FOLKS THA FALL UNDERNEATH THAT YOU KNOW ARE NOT PROVIDED THAT AND WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE I'M JUST CURIOUS SEE WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE AGE YOU KNOW WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THOSE FOLKS ARE THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD SEE AS A BREAKOUT AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER BUT I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS A BIT HERE THE ON THE LEVY IN THE BUDGET AND I UNDERSTAND THIS DOES HAVE LEVY AND BUDGET IMPLICATIONS I THINK YOU I DON'T WANT YOU BECAUSE I THINK YOU JUST ASK THAT IF YOU SAY THERE'S IN YOUR BUDGET DON'T NECESSARILY I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A BROADER DISCUSSION AND THE REASON WHY THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA PARADIGM AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE EQUITY PIECE OF IT THAT YOU ASKED EARLIER SO AS A PART OF THIS THIS PIECE, THAT'S ONE REASON WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION. SO I JUST WANTED GET MORE CLARITY ON THAT PIECE SO I'M FINE. WE'LL LEAVE IT RIGHT THERE. SOMETHING FOR 25. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. AND THEN GET TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. LAST TIME WHEN WE HAD KIND OF OUR PLIMINARY DISCUSSION MR. BURGI SHARED WHAT HE WAS HEARING. OTHER CITIES WERE COMING IN AT FOR THEIR PRELIMINARY LEVY. BUT I THINK IT WAS PRELIMINARY AND SO I GUESS I'M CURIOUS IF HE HAS ANY UPDATED INFORMATION ON WHERE OTHER CITIES ARE AT. YOU KNOW, CITIES ACROSS THE METRO AND I'M SURE THE STATE ARE DEALING WITH SIMILAR ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AND AND SEEING KIND OF THESE HISTORICALLY LEVY NUMBERS. AND SO I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE TO THOSE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, IN LOOKING THIS THIS IS A USUL CHART HEREBOUT THE PROPERTY TAX COMPARISON OF THE MEDIAN VALUE HOMES PER MONTH. BUT I THINK SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES FOR EACH OF THESE CITIES IS OR IS PROPOSED TO BE WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. MR. BROOKS DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER UNLESS CURRY WAS ABLE TO DO SOME QUICK RESEARCH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, ALL OF THE CITIES ARE SORT OF FUNDING THEIR PRELIMINARY LEVY AMOUNTS RIGHT ABOUT SAME TIME WE ARE LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE CERTIFIED NUMBER IS AND PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THAT UNTIL THE END OF THIS MONTH WE'LL CERTAINLY SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS I HAVE HEARD FROM ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT THEY ARE ADJUSTING THE NUMBERS DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT I SHARED INITIALLY. THANK YOU MR. FURBERG KARLSSON IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT NO MERIT COUNCILOR IS THAT'S I HAD JUST SENT THIS IT'S ACTUALLYOT A BLIC HEARING TIGHT WE'LL JUST WE'LL DO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER FOURTH FOR THE TRUTH AND TAXATION IS JUST THE COUNCIL THE PRELIMINARY LEVY IN MY MISTAKE THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION OF THAT IT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IT IS JUST THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWO ITEMS THE PRELIMINARY TAX AND THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET. THEN WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ANOTHER TIME. COUNCIL ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION IF NOT COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION ON ITEM 4.1 THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PLIMINARY 2024AX LEVY . COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO MR. IS THERE. I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THAT NUMBER IS THE RIGHT NUMBER TO START WITH IF THAT'S OKAY JUST BECAUSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE OF THAT 1.5% THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF OUT THERE THAT I KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT AND I FEEL A LITTLE LIKE I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE ADDING TO THAT PILE SO I YOU KNOW I MIGHT MY INITIAL THOUGHT ABOUT A PRELIMINARY LEVY NUMBER IS LIKE IT COULD BE 15 AND FOR ALL I CARE BECAUSE IT'S A MAXIMUM AND THEREFORE WE COULD DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN TRUTH IN TAXATION. RIGHT. SO I'M NOT SUPER WEDDED TO MAKING A CASE FOR IT EXCEPT TO TRY TO SAY LIKE WE AS A COUNCIL ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH NUMBER BEING EVEN ON THE TABLE AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE OTHER FOLKS ARE AT WITH IT. YOU KNOW KNOW LAST LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THIS WE STARTED AT A REALLY BIG NUMBER AND IT CAME DOWN TWICE OR THREE TIMES EVEN BY THE TIME WE PASSING THE LEVY IF I REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE ELEVENS AND THEN BY THE TIME WE DID IT IT WAS NINE RIGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO I ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY TRY TO BRING DOWN I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE DO. THERE'S AN OPEN QUESTION IN MY MIND ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD SET SOMETHING TONIGHT THAT IS INDICATIVE OF WHERE WE ALL HAVE A TOLERANCE FOR A MAXIMUM AND THIS ONE'S A LITTLE HIGH FOR ME. I JUST THINK WE SHOULD SHOW RESIDENTS AND WE SHOULD HELP RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE WE WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK TO PROVIDE THE MOST EFFICIENT SET OF SERVICES THAT WE CAN AND IT'S BEEN HARD ON EVERYONE. THERE ARE LOTS FOLKS IN OUR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WHO STRUGGLE ON, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES AND WE'RE TRYING ALL KINDS OF IDEAS. AND ONE OF THEM WOULD BE THAT WE YOU KNOW, FORCE A ISS WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, SOME OF STUFF THAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT'S MAYBE NEWER OR MORE EXPERIMENTAL SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, DO NOW BUT MOVE INTO OUR BUDGET OVER TIME OR WHATEVER THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE MAYBE FUNDED WITH GRANTS OR OTHER MECHANISMS AS OPPOSED TO THROUGH THE PROPERTY TAX. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT 1.59% THERE IS IS RELATED TO STUFF THAT'S ALIGNED WITH OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITY AT THIS POINT AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT SAYING GO AHEAD AND PUT IT IN THERE SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING NECESSARILY THAT WE COME BACK WITH WHAT I 1.57.99 IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD MAKE A CONSIDERATION HERE THAT THIS IS A LITTLE LOWER AS A STARTING POINT AND I'M THINKING LIKE 9% EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT. SO I THINK YOU MIGHT BE DOING THE MATH JUST BIT WRONG. SO AWESOME. GREAT. I LOVE THAT WHEN I DO THAT EVEN IF WE DO THAT STORY ABOUT THAT ENTIRE LINE ITEM OF NEW OPERATING EXPENSE THAT $1.1 MILLION THAT WOULD NOT THAT WOULD LOWER THE LEVYY THE POINT WOULDN'T HAVE RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK EVEN A POINT AND A HALF AT THAT 650,000 WAS ABOUT MAYBE THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT YEAH YEAH. CAN YOU PUT THAT SLIDE BACK UP ON THE SCREEN AND CONSIDER THAT ALEXANDRA YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE NEW OPERATING DIRECTION. CORRECT. THAT'S ONE ONE MORE AND YOU GO YES, CORRECT. THE MATH I WAS DOING WAS TO SAY LIKE IF WE IF WE REALLY TRULY WERE TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO FUND THOSE NEW FIREFIGHTERS, ETC. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SAY WITHOUT THAT 1.59% WE WOULD BE MORE IN THE 7.99 NUMBER FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE LEVY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT 9.49% IS OUR LEVY INCREASE. SO I WAS TAKING THAT 1.5% OUT OF THAT NUMBERS WHAT I WAS DOING. SO I D'T KNOW MR. MAYOR, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT MATH BUT BUT THAT WAS AN OPEN QUESTION REALLY. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT NUMBER SO I'M HESITANT TO JUST SAY SURE GO AHEAD WITH THAT NUMBER. BUT ALSO I UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT PROBABLY BE THERE WHICH IS WHY I'M MAYBE PUTTING ON THE TABLE MAYBE 9% AS A NUMBER. I DON'T KNOW. I THROWING OUT SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION IF YOU WILL COUNSEL . DISCUSSION COUNCILMEMBER VIVIAN I THINK IN THAT SAME VEIN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I WOULD BE HESITANT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT NUMBER TO DROP IT DOWN AND THEN TIE YOUR HANDS TO TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON WOULD WANT. THIS IS NOT A NUMBER THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH BUT I TRULY BELIEVE IT'S A NUMBER WE CAN ON AND IT'S NOT WHAT WE SAW A FEW YEARS BACK. WE WE'RE IN THE 11 DOUBLE DIGITS AND SO WE KIND OF ALONG THE SAME VEIN I'M JUST TAKING THE OTHER APPROACH TO IT OTHER OPINIONS ON IT, OTHER THOUGHTS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OH WELL WE'LL PUT PUT OUR STAFF THE HOT SEAT TONIGHT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN TRIM OFF. YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD TRIM IT DOWN TO NINE OR YOU KNOW, DAILY YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS. THIS IS A QUESTION I HAVE WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS IS GOSH YOU KNOW 6.2 PLUS THE ONE THAT GETS YOU 726 WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE LOST THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE IMPACT THERE? YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE FEE INCREASING SO THEN HOW WOULD WE COVER THAT INCREASE IF IT WAS LOCKED OFF AT THE YOU KNOW AT THE AT THE 7.26 LET'S SAY I MEAN SO LET ME I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN THAT NUMBER AND WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE AT TO SERVICES IF WE IF WE IF WE LOP THAT THAT PIECE OFF BUT NO I'M COUNCIL MEMBERS RATHER THAN GOING THE ROUTE PUTTING STAFF ON THE HOT SEAT AT THIS MOMENT AND TRY TO FIGUREUT WT NUMBERS SHOULD BE MYECOMMENDATN WOULD BE TO PS THE .49 ANDHEN T DISCUSSION THAT WE' GOING TO HAVE OR THE NEXT SIX WEEKS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE DETAILED BUDGET PRESENTATIONS FROM EACH THE DEPARTMENTS. THAT'S THE TIME THAT'S THE TIME THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO REDUCE SOME FUNDING. THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CUT DO CUTS THERE BUT TO STAND HERE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THAT NUMBER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND TO SAY NO, TAKE THAT OUT AND WE'LL WORK AROUND IT WE'LL FIGURE A WAY AROUND IT I THINK WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND WE DECIDE WE DON'T LIKE IT THAT THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY BUT TO DO IT WITHOUT MORE INFORMATION WITHOUT HAVING THOSE DETAILED BUDGET PRESENTATIONS BY THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HERE AT THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO GO. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO AGREE WITH YOU. I WOU ASK WHEN STAFF BRING BACK THE DEPARTMENT BUDGETS AND WE HAVE THOSE THOROUGH CONVERSATIONS YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED ON THE LIST OF MAYBE JUST NEED TO STOP DOING THESE THINGS HOW DO WE WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY IN SOME AREAS? ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THE WAY WE ADMINISTER SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE CHEAPER OR LESS EXPENSIVE BUT NOT COMPROMISE QUALITY? AND THEN WHAT ARE OTHER POTENTIAL REVENUE STREAMS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED? I THINK THAT WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S COMING OFF LIST AND I KNOW THAT STAFF ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS HEAR THEM AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE HAVE A SECOND YEAR IN A ROW WITH A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL FOR OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, STAFF IS BEING DILINT, THEY'REOOKING WAYS TO CURB COSTS AND EVERY ANGLE . AND SO I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN'T CUT OUR WAY TO A LOWER BUDGET. SO I'M THINKING THROUGH THE REVENUE STREAMS AND DIFFERENT WAYS OF ADMINISTERING SERVICES AND AGAIN ITS STAFF DOES THE ANALYSIS AND THERE REALLY AREN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS AND IT IS WHAT IT IS BUT JUST TO KNOW THAT THE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING FOR FOR OUR SAKE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY SAKE LET'S REMEMBER IT YOU KNOW AND TO YOU KNOW BASICALLY WANT MORE CUTS AND MORE AS AS BROUGHT. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT 20 YOU KNOW 25 YOU KNOW THOSE OUTYEARS. SO FOR EXAMPLE WE HAVE THESE NEW FIREFIGHTERS ARE YOU KNOW WHERE WE BUILDING THAT AND THEN WE MAKE THE TRANSITION YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ON FUTURE YEARS SO SO WHAT ISN'T IN HERE THAT'S IN THE FUTURE THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT AS A AS A POLICYMAKING BODY THAT WOULD MAKE US SAY HEY MAY WE OUGHT TO KEEP IT AT 9.49 LET'S RESERVE THOSE DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN CAN BE ABLE TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT THIS IN THE SAME WAY IF WE LOOK AT THAT. SO I'M PERFECTLY FINE GOING WITH 9.49 TONIGHT BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE STUFF SO THAT WE DON'T GET HIT IN THE FUTURE YEARS WITH YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT CHANGES, OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE AND THEN WE'VE GOT THIS THING ARTIFICIALLY LOW FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE YOU KNOW, OUR NAMES HAPPEN TO BE ON T BALL SO WE WANTO KEEP IT W THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT. SO IT'S JUST A THOUGHT SO TO COUNSEL ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ARE WE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE 9.49 UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO COME BACK WITH SOME DETAILED BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE OUT THE SHARP PENCILS AS THEY ALWAYS DO AND AND IF WE SEE THINGS IN THOSE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDUCTIONS IN THE LEVY THAT WE'D BRING THEM FORWARD AND WE'D HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? COUNCILMEMBER LOEHMANN THAT'S THE CASE. I'M HAPPY TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS RESOLUTION HERE. LET'S REMEMBER A MOMENT WHERE I MOVED TO A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE PRELIMINARY 2024 TAX LEVY INCREASE OF 9.49% SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MOUA TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE PRELIMINARY 2024 TAX LEVY INCREASE OF 9.49%. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOST MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND 4.2 WHICH GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THAT IS OF COURSE THE PRELIMINARY 2024 GENERAL FUND BUDGET. OKAY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, BE HAPPY TO MOVE THAT MOVE TO ESTABLISH PRELIMINARY 2024 GENERAL FUND BUDGET UTILIZING THE 9.49 LEVY INCREASE. SO MOTION OF COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECONDLY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING IN A PRELIMINARY 2024 GENERAL FUND BUDGET UTILIZING THE 9.49 LEVY INCREASE OVER OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU MS.. CARLSON WE'LL BE SEEING A LOT MORE OF YOU I KNOW IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS OR SO. YES. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UP NEXT ARE A SERIES OF PUBLIC HEARINGS REGARDING OUR ASSESSMENTS AND THIS IS AN ANNUAL THING THAT WE DO I THINK CORCT ME IF I WRONG HERE BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS AND WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE. IS THAT CORRECT? YEP. VERY GOOD. AND THAT IS CORRECT. AND I AM AMY SELIG. I'M ALSO THE OTHER DEPUTY FINANCE OFFICER IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. I'M STANDING IN FOR LORI TONIGHT WHO'S JOINING US ON THE PHONE. SO I AND AND SO GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED I WILL BEGIN WITH AENERAL OVERVW WHO FOR EACH OF THESE FIVE TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS AND THEN AT THE END THERE WILL BE MOTIONS FOR SEPARATE ONE SO THIS SLIDE REFLECTS THE TIMELINE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THE ASSESSMENT PROCESS THE LEGAL NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED IN THE SUN CURRENT AS YOU CAN SEE ON AUGUST 24TH AND THEN A WEEK LATER THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING TOOKLACE WHERE FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS ATTENDED THE HEARING. THOSE WERE ALL FOR CIVIL FINES . HERE ARE THE FIVE CATEGORIES OF ASSESSMENTS. THEY HAVE REMAINED THE SAME FROM PAST YEARS. PUBLIC NUISANCE TREE REMOVAL. WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL. DELINQUENT UTILITY FEES AND CIVIL FINES ARE THE FIVE TYPES. NOW KEEP IN MIND ON THE GRASS IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES THOSE THESE NUMBERS REFLECT THE AMOUNTS AS OF THE DATE THE SUN CURRENT PUBLICATION SO THEY CONTINUE TO BE PAID OFF AND YOU KNOW CONTINUE TO DECREASE TIME BUT AT THIS THE GRAPHS WERE CREATED BASED ON THAT POINT IN TIME WITH THE SUN CURRENT PUBLICATION AMOUNTS THE ASSESSMENT TOTALS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS ARE REFLECTED ON THIS GRAPH EXCLUDI DELINQUENT UTILITIES JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT THE GRAPH WOULD BE UNREADABLE NOW AS YOU WILL NOTICE THE TREE REMOVAL AMOUNTS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND OF COURSE THIS REFLECTS THE IMPACT OF EMERALD ASH ON TREES IN OUR COMMUNITY DELINQUENT UTILITIES REFLECTED ON THIS GRAPH UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE AND SHOWS THE NUMBER OF PROPERTI BEING ASSESSED. UTILITIES HAS GROWN SLIGHTLY OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ARE PRIMARILY WITH ONLY 16 COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BEING ASSESSED THIS YEAR PUBLIC NUISANCE AND ASSESSMENTS HAVE STAYED WITHIN THE SAME RANGE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. IN ALL 17 OF THESE TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS QUALIFY FOR THE NEW ADOPTED THIS YEAR IN WHICH THE ASSESSMENT CAN BE PAID OVER THREE, FIVE OR TEN YEARS ON THESE 17 ASSESSMENTS HAPPENED TO QUALIFY FOR THE THREE YEAR ASSESSMENT PLAN BASED ON THEIR AMOUNTS WHICH WERE ALL BELOW $3,000. WE ADDED BRUSH REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS HAVE ALSO STAYED SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT . THE AMOUNT OF DELINQUENT UTILITIES HAS RISEN IN THE LAST THREE YEARS AND IN A HIGHER RATIO THAN THE RISE IN PROPERTIES IMPACTED THIS CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO A RISE IN UTILITY RATES. THEN ALSO THE ADDITIONAL CHARGES FOR THE ORGANICS PROGRAM THIS MAP IS REFLECTING UTILITIES AND IT'S SHOWING THAT EVERY CENSUS TRACT IN BLOOMINON HAS SOME PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN IT THAT ARE BEING ASSESSED FOR UTILITIES LAST LASTLY THE CIVIL FINES HAVE FLUCTUATED SLIGHTLY IN THE LAST YEARS IT'S REFLECTED ON THIS GRAPH AND THAT'S THE END OF MY SLIDES. UM IS THERE QUESTIONS AND IF NOT WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION. THANK YOU COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY THE SLIDES WE SAW? COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MORE SO A QUESTION YOU MENTIONED WITH THE TREE REMOVALS THAT WE HAVE SOME FOLKS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE THEY PROACTIVE ABOUT THOSE BECAUSE I KNOW WE CHANGED RECENTLY THE THE ABILITY FOR FOLKS TO HAVE THAT ASSESSED ON THEIR PROPERTY IN A MORE PROACTIVE WAY AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THESE WHICH ARE ASSESSED BECAUSE THERE'S DELINQUENCY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. RIGHT. SO THOSE 17 PROPERTIES THAT THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE THAT WERE THAT WAS THAT A PROACTIVE DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT USING THAT NEW FEATURE THAT WE HAVE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I WAS NOT ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS BUT I DO HAVE LIKE THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME THAT HAD BEEN HAD BEEN SHARED WITH INDIVIDUALS AS AS THEY WERE ASSESSED FOR THOSE TREE REMOVALS. AND SO WHETHER IT WAS THEM REACHING OUT INITIALLY OR DUE TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE PROVIDED FROM THE CITY, I'M NOT SURE IN EACH SITUATION. OKAY. IT CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT THAT THAT'S I JUST WAS KIND OF CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S A FAIRLY NEW DEVELOPMENT FOR US IF THAT IF THAT CAUGHT ON LIKE IT DID THAT WOULD BE GREAT RIGHT? BECAUSE PART OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS HELP MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO AFFORD TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK OVER TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. LET US MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO AT THIS TIME WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE JUST HEARD, I WILL CALL AT 4.3 ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS OUR PUBLIC REGARDING A PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT ASSESSMENT ANYONE HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO THEM POINT THREE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT ABATEMENT ASSESSMENT. MR. BURLEIGH IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE ? ONE MOMENT, MR. MAYOR OF TO CLOSE THE PRESENTATION TO SEE IF THERE IS WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ONE OF THE LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS COUNSEL SAYING NO ONE COMING FORWARD NO ONE ON THE PHONE LOOKING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.3 TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.3. SO SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AT 4.3 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I I PROPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM 4.3? IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENTS . I GUESS I CAN DO THAT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE TO SAY ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLES FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENTS SECOND MOTION MAY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENTS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO TO THE NEXT ONE NEXT ON THE AGENDA I'LL CALL ON HIM 4.4 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE TREE REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS DURING ONE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO HIM 4.4 MR. BRILLANT DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO US IN 4.4 THIS EVENING? MAYOR NO ONE ON THE PHONE FOR THIS ITEM LAST CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.4 HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. COUNSEL NO ONE COMING FORWARD NO ONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.4 AND LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.14 BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.4 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES 60I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT TREE REMOVAL COSTS OF SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE REASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT TREE REMOVAL COSTS. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRI SIX ZERO RECALL THE PUBLICATION OF THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.5 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA THIS IS REGARDING WEED BRUSH REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.5 THIS EVENING ? MR. BARTLETT ANYONE ON THE PHONE? THE MAYOR NO ONE ON THE PHONE. LAST CALL COUNCIL NO ONE ON THE PHONE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5 WHEAT AND BRUSH REMOVAL ASSESSMENTS SO MOVED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.5 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT FOR WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL COSTS SO REMOVED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN DO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR WEED AND BRUSH REMOVAL COSTS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND 4.6 ENTER AGENDA TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING DELINQUENT WATER, STORMWATER DRAINAGE, GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.6. MR. BRIDGELAND IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MAYOR STILL NO ONE ON THE PHONE. LAST CALL ON ITEM 4.6 COUNCIL I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.6 WITH NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS AND NO ONE ON THE PHONE SO MOVED THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MOUA SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.6 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A RESOLUTION LOOK FOR RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT WATER SEWER DRAINAGE, GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS. IT'S ALL I QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE REMOVE IT IF THAT'S OKAY SORRY IT WOULD BE FINE THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR HONOR. YOUR ROLE WAS GREAT. I WAS ON THE ROLL TOTALLY SO I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE NUMBER NUMBER ONE IT'S HUGE. LIKE IT'S ALWAYS BIG AND I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE UNDERLYING FINANCIAL ON RESIDENTS THAT WE AREN'T NECESSARILY TRYING TO SUPPORT AND I DON'T MEAN THAT AS A AS LIKE WE'RE NOT DOING OUR JOBS. I JUST MEAN THAT LIKE USUALLY WHEN YOU SEE THIS KIND OF SWELL OF LIKE CHALLENGES OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE NO I'LL JUST ASSOCIATE I'D RATHER SPEND MY BILLS THAT WAY OR WHATEVER THAT'S FINE. BUT THERE COULD BE TRUE HARDSHIP HERE AND I'M CURIOUS WE'VE ASKED A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT YOU KNOW, INNOVATIONS IN AREAS AROUND UTILITY BILLING RIGHT. I THINK ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE HERE OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED IT. BUT BUT YOU KNOW, CAN WE CAN WE FIND A WAY TO GO TO EVERY OTHER WEEK BILLING FOR OR EVERY OTHER WEEK PICKUP FOR GARBAGE CERTAIN FOLKS I HAD THERE WAS A CRAZY IDEA I HAD AT ONE POINT THAT I TALKED WITH CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT THE STAFF WAS MAYBE EVEN LOOKING INTO WHICH WAS COULD I ROUND UP MY BILL AND LIKE USE THAT TO OFFSET SOMEBODY'S BILL WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT RIGHT I LOVE THAT IDEA. THAT'S A REALLY COMMUNITY ORIENTED IDEA YOU KNOW MY TWO EXTRA BUCKS BECAUSE I YOU KNOW IT'S 118 FOR ME 120 MAYBE THAT'S NOT A BURDEN FOR ME BUT MAYBE THAT $2 CAN GO TOWARDS SOMEBODY'S ABATEMENT. MAYBE SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT WANT TO PAY FOR ORGANICS WOULD ACTUALLY USE IT IF WE COULD HELP THEM OR WHATEVER. SO I JUST CURIOUS IF IF WE ARE BETWEEN NOW AND 2024 BUDGET CYCLE, ARE WE GOING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THIS AS PART OF WHAT IS COMING BACK TO US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR ASKING IT FOR FOR A WHILE IT SITS THIS IS THE LARGEST THING THAT IS DELINQUENT IN OUR IN OUR BUDGET AND SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, PART OF PART OF A WAY TO MAKE BUDGETS WORK BETTER IS ACTUALLY GET YOUR BILLS PAID ON TIME WHICH INCLUDES REVENUE FOR US AS ON TIME RIGHT AND EVERY DOLLAR THAT THIS ISN'T IN THERE IS NOT BEING THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INTEREST ON IT WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF IF AND I DON'T KNOW IF JAMIE IF IF THE CITY MANAGER HAS ANYTHING ON IT BUT I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF WE'VE GOT SOME INNOVATIONS COMING IN WITH THE WITH THE DISCUSSION AROUND UTILITY BILLING IN THE BUDGET CYCLE FOR 2020 AND I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND I THINK IT IS A DISCUSSION WORTH HAVING AND I REALLY DO I WILL SAY JUST SHOOTING FROM THE HIP AND WITHOUT SPECIFICS I THINK THE LION'S SHARE OF NUMBER THAT YOU SEE IS WATER. IT IS NOT ORGANICS COLLECTION ,IT'S NOT RECYCLING, IT'S WATER AND THAT'S THE LARGEST PORTION I THINK THAT MAKES UP THIS BILL. AND SO THEN IT BECOMES A MATTER OF THE EQUITY OF CHARGING WATER. I MEAN THE EQUITY IN THE AND THE APPROPRIATENESS OF CHARGING FOR WATER THEN IT DOUBLES BACK TO WE HAVE GOT A LOT OF WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE GOT TO PAY FOR. AND SO I MEAN IT'S A IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE AND IT'S A COMPLEX THAT WE HAVE. BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY APPROACH IT. SO MR.. FOR BREWING ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THAT. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE MAYOR'S A GOOD PORTION OF THAT IS IN OUR WATER UTILITY AND WE HAVE NOT LOST THE IDEA COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO OF THE ROUNDUP OUR OUR FOLKS IN FINANCE HAVE HAD A LOT OF TRANSITION THIS YEAR JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFFING BANDWIDTH TO STUDY THAT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING INTO THE FUTURE PLAN. I KNOW THAT OUR CFO IS STILL HAS THAT THE RADAR SCREEN AND THEN FINALLY THE THE IDEA ABOUT THE EVERY OTHER WEEK OR SOME OF THOSE OTHER APPROACHES IS I THINK GOING TO BE FACTORED INTO THE RATE STUDY THAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER WOULD THAT MAKE THE MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE? I THINK THERE WAS A MOTION I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MOUA DID MAKE THE MOTION OKAY. WE WERE IN DISCUSSION UP AND WE WERE IN THE DISCUSSION SO IT WAS APPROPRIATE DID WE GET A SECOND I CAN SECOND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND. THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR DELINQUENT WATER SEWER, STORMWATER DRAINAGE, GARBAGE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS ASSESSMENTS. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND THE FINAL ONE IN OUR SERIES HERE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.7 I WILL CALL RIGHT NOW THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CIVIL FINES FOR PROPERTY VIOLATION ASSESSMENTS. ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.7 THIS EVENING. MR. BULLARD ANYONE ON THE PHONE? MR. MAYOR NOBODY ON THE PHONE FOR THIS ONE. NO ONE COMING FORWARD AND NO ONE ON THE PHONE COUNCIL. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.7 SOME OF THE SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.7 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY I I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO IN COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR UNPAID CIVIL PENALTIES AND FINES. SOME WOULD SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SECONDLY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR UNPAID CIVIL PENALTIES AND FINES COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE COUNCIL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU MR. IRVING FOR SETTING US UP WITH THIS IN GETTING US THROUGH THIS COUNCIL. THANKS FOR WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YOUR QUESTIONS ARE DULY NOTED. WE'LL WORK THAT MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT BACK TO THE STAFF ONE MORE TIME WE'LL MOVE OUT 94.8 ON OUR AGENDA SO I CAN CATCH MY BREATH AND GET A DRINK OF WATER HERE. THIS IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS REGARDING THE LYNDALE AVENUE PROPERTIES FROM THE B2 TO B4 WE'VE GOT MR. THOMAS RAMBLER OLSON FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME EVENING . OH, IT'S WHAT IS IT? UH OH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. REMEMBER? MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN . OH PERFECT. THAT WORKED ALL RIGHT? YES. SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE PROPOSED LYNDALE BEFORE REZONINGS AND THAT PROPOSAL CONSISTS OF REZONING TOTAL OF 28 PARCELS NEAR THE LYNDALE AVENUE INTERSECTIONS WITH 86TH STREET AND 98TH STREET. THAT'S FROM P TO TWO BEFORE. IF YOU RECALL WE DISCUSSED THIS. THIS WAS BROUGHT AS A STUDY SESSION ON JULY 10TH AND AT THAT MEETING AND A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE REZONING WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL ON THAT DATE AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION. THESE ARE THE PARCELS UNDER CONSIDERATION YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT IS THE 86TH STREET NODE. THAT NODE IS DEFINED IN THE LYNDALE AVENUE SUBURBAN RETROFIT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN APRIL 2021. AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE 98TH STREET NODE. SO ALL THE PARCELS BEING CONSIDERED ARE CONCENTRATED AROUND THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS . THIS IS THE LAND USE FOR BOTH AREAS. YOU'LL SEE THE GENERAL BUSINESS IS THE GUIDED LAND USE FOR THOSE PARCELS AROUND 86TH AND LYNDALE AND THEN FOR 90TH STREET NODE IT'S A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. BOTH GUIDED LAND USES ARE OR EARN OR ARE FINE WITH OR WITH BEFORE ZONING. SORRY I KIND OF LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT BUT ANYWAYS THERE'S NO NEED TO STRESS THE INTERPRETATION THAT. THERE'S NO NEED TO REGARD THOSE THOSE PROPERTIES PROPOSED FOR REZONING AND THAT ZONING IS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE . YOU'LL NOTICE AROUND THE EIGHTH STREET THE INTERSECTION OF 86TH AND LYNDALE THE PROPERTY IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LYNDALE ARE ZONED TRANSITIONAL INDUSTRIAL THAT WAS A PREVIOUS ZONING EFFORT THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. THAT ONE THAT NEW ZONING DISTRICT TRANSITIONAL INDUSTRIAL ALSO ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL IN YOU KNOW UNDER SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SO REALLY THIS EFFORT IS TRYING TO MIRROR THAT THAT INITIATIVE HAVE ON BOTH SIDES OF LYNDALE IN FURTHERANCE OF THE SUBURBAN RETROFIT. HERE'S A TABLE COMPARING THE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS FROM B-2 TO BEFORE. I'VE JUST HIGHLIGHTED SOME ONES THAT STAND OUT AND THAT ARE THAT SPEAK TO THE VISION ILLUSTRATED IN THE RETROFIT PLAN. LOOKING AT HIGHER FLOOR AREA RATIO UNDER BEFORE IF RESIDENTIAL INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT MOVING PARKING FROM OR PROHIBITING PARKING IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND MOVING TO THE SIDE OR REAR WINDOW REQUIREMENTS ALONG BUILDINGS AND A MAXIMUM ACTUAL FRONT YARD SETBACK ALONG PUBLIC STREETS. SO AGAIN ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE CONTINUING OR EMPHASIZING THE THE DESIGN VISION AND THE RETROFIT PLAN WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE AND IS STILL AT ISSUE IS OR CONSIDERATION IS THAT SOME LOTS WOULD NON-CONFORMING WITH THIS REZONING SO JUST TRYING TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY IS ESTABLISHED WHEN ALL THE LIGHT CONDITIONS HAVE RECEIVED ALL REQUIRED APPROVALS BUT THEY CONTINUE SO THERE ARE SOME LEGAL OR THERE WILL BE SOME LEGAL NON-CONFORMING THAT ARE CREATED FROM THE REZONING BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE IN THEIR PRESENT STATE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PROPOSE EXPANSION IN WHICH CASE THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. THE BEFORE ZONING DISTRICT AND HERE'S AN ILLUSTRATION OF THOSE LOTS THAT WOULD NOT BE CONFORMING WITH UNDER BEFORE IT'S THERE'S FOUR LOTS AROUND 86 AND LYNDALE AND ONE LOT NEAR THE 98TH STREET NODE AND THERE'S THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS PROCESS ARE KICKED OFF IN EARLY MAY WE SENT LETTERS MAILERS DESCRIBING THE PROJECT AND HOW TO ENGAGE WITH STAFF PLANNERS ABOUT THE PROJECT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THE OWNERS OF THE LOTS UNDER CONSIDERATION. WE ALSO GAVE THEM A HEADS UP THAT WE WOULD BE VISITING THEIR PROPERTY TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS MIGHT HAVE WITH THE PROPOSED REZONINGS. SO WE DID VISIT THOSE PROPERTIES WE VISITED NOT ONLY PROPERTIES BUT EACH BUSINESS IF THERE WERE MULTIPLE TENANTS IN EACH BUILDING AND SO WE VISITED EACH BUSINESS. WE HANDED THEM MORE INFORMATION BASICALLY A REDUNDANCY OF WHAT WAS SENT OUT IN EARLY MAY AND THEN WE ALSO HANDED OUT ADVERTISED MEANS FOR THE OPEN HOUSES LATER THAT MONTH THERE WERE TWO OPEN HOUSES THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, NOTHING REALLY EXPRESSING OBJECTION OR OR OR OPPOSITION OR OR AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPOSAL BUT JUST MORE OR LESS INQUIRING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICS AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN FOR THEIR PROPERTY ESSENTIALLY. BUT YEAH THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT AND THEN THERE WERE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMISSION BACK ON AUGUST 17TH. SO THAT WAS KIND OF PART THAT'S CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AT THAT MEETING THERE, YOU KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY AS A POTENTIAL FOR REGARDING GETTING PARCELS BUT I ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER. AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CURRENT LAND USES OF UNDER CONSIDERATION STAFF ALSO BROUGHT A MATTER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEEKING GUIDANCE ON PERHAPS EXPLORING OTHER REZONING ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE THERE'S BEEN CHANGING CONDITIONS BETWEEN WHEN THE RETROFIT PLAN WAS ADOPTED TO NOW THERE'S BEEN MORE OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN SUCCESS OR SO I GUESS SOME OF IT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION STILL BUT OTHER ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT ALLENDALE FLATS IS BEING COMPLETED BUT OXBOW HEIGHTS IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE HAD SOME MORE ACTIVITY ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE AND THEN THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE BEEN THAT HAVE APPEARED SINCE THEN . THEY'RE CURRENTLY ZONED B TWO SO WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SEEK GUIDANCE IF WAS ANY INTEREST IN CONSIDERING MORE REZONINGS BEYOND WHAT WAS PRESCRIBED IN THE RETROFIT PLAN AND THEY DID THERE WAS THERE WAS CONSENSUS TOO FOR STAFF TO EXPLORE THEN WE'D ALSO COME TO YOU WITH THAT SAME QUESTION OF WHAT SORT OF GUIDANCE YOU HAVE FOR STAFF TO MAYBE EXPLORE ADDITIONAL REZONINGS. SO I MENTIONED PUBLIC AGAIN JUST EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROPOSED REZONINGS BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING OR AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING AND IT WAS FROM REPRESENTATIVES FROM PAN AMERICA THEIR PAWNSHOPS WOULD BE THEY'RE CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THEIR CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN THE B2 ZONING DISTRICT BUT THEY'RE NOT NOT ALLOWED WITHIN BEFORE. AS I MENTIONED ELIER WHEN SCUSSING LEGALONCONFORMING THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE ANDHERE'S SOME THE'S SOME MANNE WHI THEY COULD CONTINUE EN IF THEY PROPOS, YOU KNOW, RENSTRUCTION. I MEA THERE WOULD BE Y OW, STAFF WOU WORK WITH THEM O THAT B THEY WLDT ALLOWED TO EAND THAT WOULD RESULT IN A LARGER FOOTPRT OF THEIR OPERAONS . AN SO TY EXPRESSED SE COERN ABOUT THEMPACT OF ON THEIR PPERTY, ON THEIR BUSINESS. THEY'VEHE TRE WAS AN EXPRESSIONF DIFFICULTY T CORIBUTE TO THE REVITALIZAON OF LYNDALE SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN . AFTER THAT STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE TO THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM PAN AMERICAN WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT COULD THEY DO TO TO BE PART OF THIS REVITALIZATION OF LYNDALE SO THEY DID PROVIDE A LETTER PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE COUNCIL COUNCIL PACKET THAT MENTIONED OR THAT PROPOSED A NEW USE WITHIN THE B4 DISTRICT BASICALLY PAWNSHOPS IN EXISTENCE AT A CERTAIN DATE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN THE B4 DISTRICT. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THIS KIND TIES IN WITH THE NEXT STEPS FOR THIS IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO PURSUE THE NEXT STEPS SO PENDING COUNCIL DIRECTION THEY'RE THERE'S A CONSIDERING AMENDING THE B FOR USE MATRIX TO ALLOW PAWN SHOPS AS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT FROM PON THE REPRESENTATIVES PAN AMERICA ALSO STUDY SESSIONS BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER OR TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL REZONINGS ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE. WE'D ALSO NEED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO THOSE REZONINGS AND THEN IN FURTHERANCE THAT SCHEDULE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AND THEN ADDITIONAL WE JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE A LYNDALE AVENUE STATE THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE WORK PLAN BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS OBSERVING AND WE ARE MEETING REGULARLY TO FOLLOW THE PROGRESS OF IMPLEMENTING THE RETROFIT THE YEAH THE RETROFIT PLAN SO THERE'S THREE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE I'M SORRY SORRY AN ORDINANCE ADOPTION RESOLUTION FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE REZONING AND IF ARE INTERESTED THERE'S A MOTION TO FOR A CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT AS REQUESTED BY UPON FOR THAT CODE AMENDMENT SO AND WITH THAT I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU SO FOR US ONCE AGAIN IF YOU COULD AND I THINK WILL HELP SHAPE THE DISCUSSION THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THE NONCONFORMING USE AS OPPOSED TO A I'M BLANKING ON THE OTHER OPTION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE BASICALLY WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THE PAWNSHOPS IF THEY IF THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BEFORE THE ZONING DISCUSSION THE ZONING CHANGE IT STILL B A NON CONFORMING USE THEY COULD BE THERE THEY COULDN'T EXPAND THEY COULDN'T REBUILD. THERE WAS A A NEED TO REBUILD AND FOR SOME REASON A MAYOR THEY YEAH SO YOU'RE RIGHT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITHIN THE CURRENT SHAPE OF THEIR OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW IN PERPETUITY AS LONG AS THEY DIDN'T EXPAND THEIR YOU KNOW, THE FOOTPRINT OF YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN EXPANSION THE USE AND THAT WOULD GO AGAINST A NON IS THAT WOULD VIOLATE NON-CONFORMITY SO IN WHICH CASE THEY WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE B4 ZONING DISTRICT IN ONE AND ITS CURRENT STATUS WOULDN'T ALLOW PAWNSHOPS BUT I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE THE CODE LANGUAGE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT A FIRE RELATED DAMAGE TO AND ANYWAYS I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T GET INTO THAT IF I CAN RECOUNT THE CODE LANGUAGE EXACTLY BUT NONETHELESS YEAH SO THERE IS SOME MANNER IN WHICH THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THE REZONING AS A LEGAL NON-CONFORMITY BUT WITH THE CODE AMENDMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THEY THEY COULD REBUILD, THEY COULD EXPAND, THEY MAYBE RELOCATE THE THE STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY TO BE BROUGHT TO COMPLIANCE WITH BEFORE AND THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO YOU KNOW, TO TO EXPAND IF THEY IF THEY CHOSE TO WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. BUT THAT'S HELPFUL THANK YOU. THEY HAVE EITHER EXPRESSED WE HAVE TO AND HAVE EITHER EXPRESSED THOUGHTS OR PLANS TO EXPAND REBUILD DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 50 YEARS. WELL, MAYOR YEAH SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE OTHER ONE IS LOCATED. I KNOW THAT THERE IS THERE ARE LAWS AND REGULATION ABOUT HOW MANY PAWNSHOPS CAN EXIST PER 50,000 IN POPULATION. SO I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY JUST TWO AND THEN THE THE ONE UNDER CONSIDERATION ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE IN OUR MEETING I MEAN THEY'RE HERE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT SO I I'M GUESSING THAT QUESTION COULD BE BETTER DIRECTED TO THEM BUT I, I CAN'T RECALL THEM TALKING ABOUT PLANS TO EXPAND BUT THEY CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE MORE LIGHT THEN THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. YEAH COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS HERE COUNCILMEMBER KERNAN AND CUSTOMER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAD A QUESTION ALONG SIMILAR LINES SO I APPRECIATED THE LETTER THAT SENT IN FROM THE OWNERS AND THEY TALKED LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU KNOW, REALLY WANTING TO BE PART OF THE REVITALIZATION OF LYNDALE AND LISTED SOME OF THE GOALS IN THE LETTER AND I GUESS I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IF THEY WERE PLANNING ON MAKING SOME OF THESE TYPES OF CHANGES THAT ARE LISTED AS PART OF SOME OF THE GOALS ON THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT? YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING THROUGH LIKE YOU KNOW AS A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING BUSINESS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS CHANGE WOULD DO HARM TO THEM AS IT CURRENTLY LIKE IF WE PASS IT AS IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED TODAY UNLESS THEY WERE TO EXPAND WHICH SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL MIGHT BE AVENUES TO MOVE FORWARD BUT TO ME IT REALLY FEELS IN THEIR LETTER THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING AT THAT THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THE REVITALIZATION EFFORTS AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THEM IF THEY ARE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT. OH YEAH. MERE COUNCILMEMBER KREIDER YEAH I'LL PROBABLY LEAVE THAT TO THEM TO TO TO EXPAND ON THAT BUT YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS EMPHASIZED DURING OUR CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THEY PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE SPECIFICS AND WHAT INVITE THEM UP. LET'S ASK QUESTIONS HERE JUST IN GENERAL AND THEN WE'LL INVITE OUR GUESTS UP AND WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR FOR PLANNING AND THEN I HAVE A SEPARATE QUESTION. I THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL GO TOWARDS THE OWNER IF THAT'S OKAY. WHY DID WE NOT INCLUDE PAWN SHOPS AS A LEGAL USE IN B2 TO BEGIN WITH? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO NICK DO YOU HAVE THE HISTORY I MEAN OKAY SORRY I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO MY GOING AROUND GREERTON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN THIS EVENING. SO THE B4 ZONING DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN 2006 AS WITH THE CREATION AND SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH A TRANSITIONAL INDUSTRIAL. WHEN YOU CREATE A NEW ZONING DISTRICT YOU'RE GOING TO THROUGH YOUR USE TABLE AND KIND OF DO AN ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF WHAT USES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND GOALS OF THAT UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT AND ADD THOSE USES ACCORDINGLY WHETHER IT BE PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USES, ACCESSORY USES ETC. MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME WHEN THE B4 DISTRICT WAS CREATED WAS THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO PAWHOPS WAS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE SOME OF THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS WERE UPDATED FOR PAWNSHOPS WHICH NOW FRANKLY REPRESENTS THE LARGEST KIND OF IMPEDIMENT TO THE EXPANSION APPROVAL IT FOR PROLIFERATION OF THAT USE IN BLOOMINGTON RELATED TO AS TOM SAID THE MAXIMUM QUANTITY PER THE RATIO OF RESIDENTS. AND SO PRIOR TO THAT TIME I THINK THERE WAS SOME ANALYSIS JUST IN TERMS OF THAT WALL ON ITS FACE PAWNSHOPS AS A USE MAY NOT BE TOTALLY INCONSISTENT OR OUT OF STEP WITH THE GOALS AND INTENT OF THE BEFORE THEY STRICTLY JUST WANTED TO LIMIT PAWN SHOPS TO WHERE THEY EXISTED AT THAT TIME WHICH WAS IN THE B TWO ZONING DISTRICT AND SO THAT'S WHY IN ADDITION TO NOT JUST BEFORE WE ADDED OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THE FREEWAY DISTRICTS CS AND OTHER COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THEY DIDN'T ADD PAWNSHOPS TO ANY OF THOSE DISTRICTS EITHER. SO I DON'T THINK IT HAD SO MUCH TO DO WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF BEFORE AS IN SO MUCH THAT THEY JUST DID NOT WANT TO INCREASE FURTHER EXPANSION OF THAT USE. OKAY. SO IS IT A IS IT YOUR OPINION THEN THAT GIVEN WE HAVE THOSE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS PLACE THAT IT IT FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT DOES NO HARM TO PROVIDE IT AS A CONDITIONAL USE IS THAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLAS SANDRA I WON'T I MEAN I PREFACE EVERYTHING BY THAT. WE WANT TO DO SOME ANALYSIS AND RESEARCH ABOUT OUR PAWNSHOPS. FRANKLY IT'S NOT A USE THAT WE HAVE STUDIED IN ANY CLOSE DETAIL SINCE PROBABLY THE LICENSING UPDATES THAT WERE DONE SO WITH THAT CAVEAT TO IT AND FACE I DON'T WE DON'T THINK THAT IT'S INHERENTLY INCONSISTENT WITH THE OR WITH BEFORE BUT SAYING THAT WE DO WANT TO STUDY SOME MORE WITH WHICH THIS PROCESS WOULD ALLOW FOR SURE. THE OTHER COMMENT FLIPPING THAT ON ITS HEAD A LITTLE BIT HERE IS THAT THIS IS A STANDALONE BUILDING. IS THERE ANY REASON NOT TO JUST LEAVE IT AS V TWO AND LEAVE IT ALONE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH PROCESS? LET ME TAKE A STAB AT THAT ONE. SO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO YOU KNOW CITIES DO ALL SORTS OF ODD THINGS TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, EXISTING BUSINESS OWNERS AND RIGHTFULLY SO THEY WANT TO SUPPORT THEIR LOCAL BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THEN DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS BUT JUST FROM FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO DO AN EVALUATION OF PAWNSHOPS IN THE BEFORE USE THAN IT WOULD BE TO HAVE A SPOT TO BE TO JUST FROM A REGULATORY COMPLEXITY STANDPOINT BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT INTENSITY STANDARDS BEFORE DOES CALL FOR HIGHER MINIMUM FLOOR RATIOS AND SOME DIFFERENT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. SO AS PROPERTIES DEVELOP OVER TIME IF YOU HAVE ONE PARCEL THAT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE UNIFORM AND EVENTUALLY IT WOULD NOT BE IN FURTHERANCE OF THE RETROFITS VISION OR GUIDING PRINCIPLES WITH RESPECT TO THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT B2 ALLOWS FOR AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE THE PARKING AND THE BUILDINGS NOT UP AT THE STREET AND SOME OF THE LESS INTENSITY THE B2 ALLOWS FOR. SO JUST A PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THAT. THANKS. THANK YOU. YEP. BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ANOTHER ONE. THANK YOU. SO IF WE WERE TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE STATUS AT PAWNSHOPS TO THE BEEF IN THE B4 DISTRICT AND YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE YOU WOULD NEED TO STUDY IT. IS THAT GOING TO BE INTENSE OF TIME CONSUMING AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WE COME UP WITH ALL KINDS OF IDEAS ALL TIME TO YOU KNOW, THROW TOWARD THE PLANNING STAFF. AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A CONVERSATION TO REPLAY OR TASTE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE PRIORITIZED? OR IS IT A PRETTY MINIMAL? ASK OF PLANNING STAFF TO STUDY THIS PIECE AROUND THE PAWNSHOPS AND BEFORE SERVING MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTE I WE'VE MET AND WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. IT WILL REQUIRE JUST SOME STUDY BUT WE ALSO WANT THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS TO PLAY OUT TOO. SO WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN , OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT OF , YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. SO YOU KNOW, THE STUDY COMPONENT WOULD I I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE TOO INTENSE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EXAMINING WHAT STANDARDS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IMPOSED PAWNSHOPS WITHIN THE CITY. HOW DOES THAT HOW DOES THAT CONFLICT OR FURTHER THE GOALS OF THE RETROFIT PLAN WITHIN THAT CONTEXT? BUT IT WILL ALSO ALLOW I GUESS PAWNSHOPS TO TARGET ALL THE PAWNSHOPS THAT EXIST IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. THERE'S BEFORE AND HERE'S HERE'S A MAP RIGHT NOW OF ALL THE AREAS THAT ARE CONCENTRATED AREAS OF BE FOR PARCELS WHEREVER BEFORE EXISTS WHERE A PAWN SHOP COULD COULD GO SO THERE'S COULD ONLY BE TWO PAWN SHOPS IN BLOOMINGTON CORRECT? RIGHT. ONE FOR 50,000 RESIDENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT I CONCUR WITH TOM'S ASSESSMENT. I THINK IT'S MORE OF A DISCRETE STUDY. IT WOULDN'T RESULT IN A REPRIORITIZATION OF ANY OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING. YEAH. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, IS THAT THAT LAW THAT THEY ARE 50 YOU KNOW, 50,000 PEOPLE PER PAWN SHOP IS THAT A STATE LAW OR MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IT'S A IT IS A LOCAL LICENSING PROVISION. IT MIGHT BE A MODEL THAT OTHER CITIES FOLLOW IN TERMS OF THAT USE I'M NOT HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT IT PROBABLY OUR CITY CLERK AND LICENSING STAFF ARE PROBABLY THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S A IT'S A FRACTION THEREOF. SO I BELIEVE IF BLOOMINGTON WERE TO GROW ABOVE 100,000 THAT WOULD THERE BE SOME ABILITY TO INCREASE THE LICENSE AT POINT AT THAT POINT THEY'D BE ABLE TO PUT ANOTHER ONE SOMEWHERE ELSE BY CITY OR IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THOSE. THOSE ARE ALL YES, YES MAYOR AND COUNCILOR ALONE AND THE LICENSING ARE WITHIN THE CITY CODE AND CERTAINLY UNDER YOUR AUTHORITY AND PURVIEW TO CHANGE AS YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE SO I'LL SAY ANYTHING ELSE I DO PLANNING STAFF MAYOR IF I MAY MAKE ONE JUST QUICK DISCRETE CLARIFICATION SO THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT YOU KNOW WHERE THE PAWN SHOPS COULD BE LOCATED OTHER BEFORE CITES SOME OF THAT WILL BE TIED WITH WHATEVER DECISION THE POLICYMAKERS MAKE IN TERMS OF WHETHER YOU FOLLOW THE DISCRETE RECOMMENDED REQUEST UPON AMERICA TO TO ALLOW THIS USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE BUT ONLY IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO THAT ADOPTION DATE OF THE REZONING VERSUS JUST AS A FLAT CONDITIONAL U WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRIC SETTING KIND OFHE LICENSING A THE NUMBER OTHEM ISSUE ASIDE IF THE U WASOT IN EXISTEE YWHERE ELSE A BEFORE PRIOR TO THAT DATEHEN IT'S LELY THAT THATOULD NOT ALLOWNY HER ADDITIONAAWN SHOPS IN BEFE REGARDLESS. SO JT TO KEE ANYE ON THAT AS WL. L RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR OUR OUR FRIENDS HERE IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD IF YOU COULD PLEASE . GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. YEAH I'M BRI WITH SOME ON BEHALFF PAN AMERICANDHE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL A FILIATED BUSINESS ENTITY. THANKS FOREING HEREITH US TONIGHT, M SWARTZBERG H, THANKS FOR HING ME. COUNCILMEMBE CURRY, IT'S SPIFIC QUESTIONS O THE UH ON A POSSIBL REUSE STATEMENT I WAS JUS READING ORKIMMING THROUG YOUR LETTERGAIN AND YOU HAD REFENCE THE LYNLE AVENUE RETROFIT IN AT PART OF AMERI WANTS TO BE, YOU KN, MORE INVOLD MOVED INAKING STEPS T WELL I GUS I DON'T KNOWHAT THOSE STS ARE. TH'S WHAT'M CURIO ABOUT. YOU LISTED SOME OF THE GLS THE RETROFIT SDY IN THE LETTER AND SO JT AS Y'RE THINKING ABOUT WANTING THIS CHANGEADE SO THAT YOU CAN DO THOSE THINGS I WAS JUST CURIOUS IFOU HAD A SENSE RIGHT NOW OF , YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE CHANGES MIGHT BE IF IT'S JUST DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE AND BE ABLE TO TO DO. YEAH, THANK YOU. IT'S MORE THE LATTER SO. THERE'S NO DIRECT PLANS TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY AT THIS POINT BUT YOU KNOW GIVEN THE THE GOALS ARE TO MAKE THE CORRIDOR MORE NAVIGABLE AND TO INCREASE DEVELOPMENT THERE WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, MULTIFAMILY WITH YOU KNOW, STOREFRONTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVERYTHING MOVED CLOSER TO LYNDALE AVENUE WITH THE SETBACKS BEING CHANGED. WE WANT THE ABILITY TO YOU KNOW SUPPORT THAT REDEVELOPMENT AND SO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY IT'S SECTION 21.504 OF THE ZONING CODE DEFINES AN EXPANSION OF A NONCONFORMITY AS RELOCATION OF THE USE TO A STRUCTION STRUCTURE OR PORTION OF THE SITE NOT PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED THE USE. SO YOU KNOW ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO MOVE PARKING LOTS TO THE TO THE BACKS OF THE PROPERTY YOU KNOW OFF OF LYNDALE AVENUE AND TO YOU KNOW MOVE CHANGE THAT SETBACK THE BUILDINGS CAN BE CLOSER TO THE TO THE TO THE CORRIDOR WE BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO APPROVE US TO DO THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE . AND SO AS A CONDITIONAL USE IT DOESN'T CHANGE, YOU KNOW, OUR ABILITY TO UNILATERALLY YOU KNOW, REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY IT KEEPS THAT WITH WITH CITY COUNCIL AND BUT IT GIVES YOU ALL THE ABILITY TO APPROVE THAT SHOULD YOU KNOW A DEVELOPER COME IN AND WANT TO REDEVELOP THE CORRIDOR AND YEAH WE JUST WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY. DO YOU THE PROPERTY ARE THEY INVOLVED IN THE BUSINESS SAID THAT KIND OF AS A SEPARATE INTEREST OR IS IT IS IT THIS PART AMERICA OWNED THE BUILDING I GUESS IS MY QUESTION IS IT IS IT AN OWNER OCCUPIED BUILDING AT THIS TIME? DEFINITELY IT'S JUST A PROCEDURAL SORRY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS IT'S COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. YEAH, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES. PAN AMERICA ESSENTIALLY TIED TO THE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAME JUST NOT THE SAME UNDER YES YEAH WE EFFECTIVELY ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. OKAY HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAD ANY HAVE YOU HAD ANY INTEREST IN EXPANDING YOUR BUSINESS PRIOR TO IT HAS COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND IN THE PAST 25 YEARS I THINK YOU'VE BEEN AROUND 25 YEARS YOU SAID RIGHT YEAH YEAH THAT DATES ME AND THAT DATES ME BIT BUT I'M NOT YOU AND THE BUSINESS YEAH RIGHT SO YEAH IN PAST 25 YEARS I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S BEEN ANY EXPANSION CURRENTLY THERE'S NO PLAN TO EXPAND EXPAND THE FLOOR THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE BUILDING AND THERE WOULDN'T THERE'S NO TALKS OF THAT. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. IT'S JUST PURELY YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A CASUALTY THAT KNOCKED ON THE BUILDING OR WE WANTED TO REDEVELOP, WE'D BE ABLE TO MAYBE SEE COUNCIL'S OPINION AND BLESSING AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE MOVING THE BUILDING TO A TO SO THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BE FOR DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING CODE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO I APPRECIATE THAT. SO TO SUM UP IF I CAN YOUR REQUEST IS IS TIED MORE SO TO THE DEFINITION OF EXPANSION AS NOTED IN THE STATUTE AS OPPOSED TO YOUR INTEREST PERSONALLY IN EXPANDING YOUR IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT YOU SAID THAT IS FAIR, CORRECT? GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU ALL RIGHT? WELL, THANK YOU. I THINK WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AFTERWARD DURING, THE DISCUSSION WE WILL WE WILL CALL ON YOU AGAIN. PERFECT. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I DO WANT TO SAY APPRECIATIVE AND IMPRESSED BY THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE WITH YOUR CITY STAFF, PARTICULARLY PLANNER RAYMOND OLSEN AND AND CITY PLANNING MANAGER MARK NYGAARD. SO THANK YOU. I WAS GOOD. THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL FOR THE DISCUSSION BUT WITH THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING 4.8 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE LYNDALE AVENUE REZONING FM B2 TO B FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.8 TONIGHT. MR. BRODY ANYONE ON THE PHONE ? MR. MAYOR, THERE'S ONE NAME I DON'T RECOGNIZE WE'RE GOING TO CHECK IN WITH A RAY HAYHURST MR. HAYHURST, YOU'RE UNMUTED. IF YOU WERE LOOKING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM 4.80 NEVER MIND. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY HERE IN THE CHAMBERS SO WE'VE GOT NO ONE IN THE CHAMBERS COMING FORWARD AND A MISTAKE ON THE PHONE. SO WE'RE WE HAVE NO ONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK AT THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.8 I'D LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OF SOME OF THEM. MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES REMEMBER LOWMAN BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT IN 4.8. NO FURTHER PUBLIC DISCUSSION ON THIS THOUGH FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED CALLS ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS AND BREAK IT AND LET'S BREAK THIS INTO TWO DIFFERENT CHUNKS FIRST OF ALL THE REZONING IN GENERAL WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THE REZONING AS PROPOSED BY STAFF AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD THE CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT IS REQUESTED BY PAN AMERICA. BUT LET'S START WITH THE THE REZONING IN GENERAL THERE ARE THERE QUESTIONS ARE THERE CONCERNS COMMENTS REGARDING THE REZONING PROPOSED AS IT IS ? NO, I THINK WE WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION THINK DURING THE THE STUDY SESSION ON THIS AND I THINK WE GOT SOME GOOD FEEDBACK BACK AND FORTH FROM BETWEEN COUNCIL AND STAFF ON THIS. SO HEARING NO COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR FOR ACTION I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE THE CITY ZONING MAP BY REZONING PROPERTY SHOWN IN EXHIBIT FROM B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO B FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ADOPT THAT AMENDING THE CITY ZONING MAP BY REZONING PROPERTY SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A FROM B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO B FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NO FURTHER CAN ALSO THE COUNCILMEMBER LOWER QUESTION NO NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO UH COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MADE THE MOTION I'M SORRY IT WAS I WILL BE THE MOTION COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER SUMMARY PUBLICATION I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CERTAIN APPLICATION OF ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY ZONING BY REZONING PROPERTY AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT A FROM B TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO BE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOLA LOWMAN FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I AM ALWAYS CARRIES SIX ZERO NO COUNCIL QUESTION REGARDING THE CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT AS REQUESTED BY PAN AMERICA THOUGHTS ON THAT DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OR DO WE WANT TO? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? COUNCILMEMBER LOLA QUEST WE CAN'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. I MEAN I THINK THEY'VE OUT A PRETTY GOOD CASE. YOU KNOW, THEY MEAN YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE A MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. WHY NOT? LET'S LET'S DO IT. COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN, THANK YOU. YOU JUST BRING IN THE PACK HERE. I KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT BOUND BY HISTORICAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT KIND OF PAWNSHOPS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS SOME PURPOSEFUL DECISIONS REACHED IN TERMS OF NUMBERS LICENSING BY POPULATION. SO WITH WITH THAT MIND I ALSO THINK ABOUT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID IN THE LINDO AVENUE RETROFIT EXERCISE IN BALL. OBVIOUSLY PAWNSHOPS ARE AN ECONOMIC DRIVER IN THE COMMUNITY I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS NECESSARILY INTENTION THAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT SAYING THAT THESE WERE FEATURES THAT THEY WANTED IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE INCLUDED ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE. SO AGAIN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE OBVIOUSLY A BUSINESS ACTIVITY AND A FAMILY MEMBER COMMUNITY BUT OVER THE LONG TERM WHEN I LOOK AT THE VISION OF WHAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS TO BE INCLUDED THESE ZONES AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGES IT WAS OVER TIME MODIFY THE MAKEUP OF THAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT THAT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE THERE TODAY. SO I GUESS I WOULD BE HESITANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BUT THAT'S MY $0.02. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, THANK MR. MAYOR. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN I FEEL LIKE I FEEL LIKE WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NICK SAID WHEN HE WAS UP ON THE DAIS WAS WE COULD WE COULD DO THIS IN A WAY LIMITS LIMITS IT TO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S FORGIVE ME I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS AGAIN. MR. JOHNSON, I THINK THAT WHAT WERE SAYING WAS THERE'S SOME TIMING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS RIGHT. YOU MAY REMEMBER REMEMBER BILL SANDRO SO IF YOU THE WITHIN THE PAN AMERICA LETTER WHAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY THE CITY TO CONSIDER IS TO ALLOW PAWNSHOP IN OPERATION AS OF SEPTEMBER 19TH 2023 AND THAT DATE IS VERY INTENTIONAL AND SPECIFIC IN SO MUCH AS THAT THAT IS THE DAY AFTER THE INITIATION OF THE REZONING WHICH WOULD YOU KNOW TAKE EFFECT UPON PUBLICATION OF THE PAPER BUT BASICALLY THE DAY AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION SO BY LIMITING IT IN THAT WAY EVEN IF YOU ALLOWED PAWN SHOPS AND BEFORE IN THIS WAY AND YOU'RE IN YOUR POPULATION INCREASED I'M SUGGESTING OR CONSIDERING YOU KNOW THE LICENSING THE EXISTING LICENSING REQUIREMENTS ADDITIONAL PAWNSHOPS COULD NOT PROLIFERATE EXPAND OR OPERATE IN BEFORE WITH THIS ALLOWANCE THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING RIGHT AND THEN THAT YOUR CONCERN BUT IT WOULD BE MORE OF A LONG TERM WAY OF ADDITIONAL PAWN SHOPS FROM GOING INTO B4 DISTRICT AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME ENABLING THE FOLKS AT PAWN AMERICA TO CONTINUE BUSINESS IN THEIR CURRENT LOCATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE TO CONSIDER BUT I TO THROW THAT OUT THERE COUNCILMEMBER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER ALESSANDRA, I THINK JUST OVERALL I MEAN OBVIOUSLY GOING FROM THE 10,000 FOOT DOWN TO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES IT GETS A LITTLE TOUGHER. BUT JUST KNOWING THAT AT LEAST TO WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT IS LOOKING AT THE USE MIX THAT EXISTS ALONG CORRIDOR AND HEARING FOLKS SAY REALLY HIGH AUTO INTENSITY USES LIKE DRIVE THRUS OR AUTO PARTS STORES OR MEDIUM INDUSTRIAL OR PAWNSHOPS. FOLKS WE'RE LOOKING FOR A GENERATION FROM NOW SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT VISION THAN WHEN CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE IN ON THESE INDIVIDUAL USE BASIS. AGAIN, IT'S IT'S IT'S AWKWARD BUT I THINK AS CHANGES CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD JUST NOT CONTINUING TO MAKE CARVE OUTS FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESSES ARE THERE KNOWING THAT IF IF ENDS UP BEING THE RULE NOTHING'S EVER GOING TO CHANGE. SO BUT I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU MAYOR AND I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MARTIN THERE. I THINK BY AND LARGE THE WAY THAT THIS IS PROPOSED NOW TO JUST TO SWITCH WOULD ALLOW THE THE BUSINESS TO CONTINUE. BUT IT'S THE 30, 40, 50, 60 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. IS THAT SAME VISION AND IS THAT THE SAME MAKEUP THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE AND THAT AS A RESIDENT BEFORE BEING IN COUNCIL WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IT IN 60 YEARS WHEN MY KIDS ARE GROWING UP IS LYNDALE GOING TO LOOK THE AS IT DOES NOW AND THAT THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION AND SO WELL I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE THAT AND WE CAN CONTINUE SUPPORTING THIS BUSINESS AS A NONCONFORMING THINK THAT'S THE VISION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS WHAT'S LYNDALE TO BE IN 50 YEARS NOT NECESSARILY KEEPING IT ALLOWING IT TO STAY THE SAME SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME ME IF YOU WILL MR. MAYOR IN IN I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT EITHER COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN OR COUNCILMEMBER ON THE SPOT BUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT THAT I'M I'M INTERPRETING MYSELF THAT IT'S ABOUT THE TYPE OF BUSINESS AND NOT ABOUT THE TYPE OF LAND USE AND IN ZONING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT TYPE OF BUSINESS. SO I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONFORM WITH THE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS WE'RE LOOKING FOR SET BACK WINDOWS OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT FEELS LIKE IT AS OPPOSED TO FORCING THEM OUT OF THAT AREA. WE ARE SAYING IN ANOTHER WAY IF THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE REDEVELOPMENT ON THE BUILDING HAPPEN LET'S FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND THE ALTERNATIVE TO WAIT FOR 30 YEARS UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO JETTISON THAT BUSINESS DID WE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE AND THAT'S THAT'S THE CONSIDERATION I WOULD MAKE IN THAT REGARD BECAUSE IF 30 YEARS FROM NOW THAT THAT BUSINESS DECIDES IT DOESN'T WANT TO BE THERE, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET IN THE MEANTIME IF YOU GIVE THEM THE CONDITIONAL USE IS A BUILDING THAT'S CONFORMING TO THE LAND USE OF THE ZONE. IF THEY DO THEY'RE THERE. THEY KNOW THAT THEY THEY ARE PART OF THE RETROFIT. IF YOU DON'T WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET 30 YEARS FROM NOW IS A BUILDING THAT'S NON-CONFORMING AND AN EMPTY AND NOW IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT MOVE IN THERE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET UPDATED TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE REST OF THE LAND USE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE REASON I WOULD CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE YOU MIGHT GET OUT OF IT THE LAND USE REQUIREMENT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT BUSINESS IS IN THERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT THAT ESTHETIC WAS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO FOR THAT THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER KERNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD THIS IS JUST TO AGAIN STUDY IT AND THEN STAFF WOULD COME BACK AND THERE WOULD BE A HEARING AND WE WOULD HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE LIKE WE WOULD ACTUALLY VOTE ON IT THEN THIS IS JUST TELL US STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RESEARCHING AND BRINGING FORTH A FORMAL PROPOSAL. YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT YES BECAUSE THAT'S THE CASE I'M I'LL SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD TONIGHT I THINK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND I WAS JUST GOING WAS GOING MOVE IT ALONG IN THAT WAY AS WELL I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH WITH BOTH SIDES HERE. I WOULD AGREE TO MOVE IT ALONG SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION FURTHER. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL AS. WE DO IT AND YOU KNOW MAKE SURE YOU COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON IS INVOLVED PERSONALLY. I AM QUITE IN LINE WITH COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER ZONING IS ABOUT LAND USE AND THE LAND USE IS WHAT'S HAPPENING THAT LAND AND SO IF IT IS A IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE AS COMPATIBLE OR DESIRABLE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT LYNDALE AVENUE TO BE IN 40 YEARS THEN I THINK THIS IS A IS CERTAINLY A GERMANE CONVERSATION TO BE HAVING. THAT BEING SAID, I'LL I'LL I'LL AGREE WITH THE NOTION OF MOVING THIS STUDY AND THEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE AND WE CAN EVALUATE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, MORE MORE COMPLETELY WITH A MORE COMPLETE COUNCIL, EVALUATE THE OPTIONS ON THIS AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO BE. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A CITY INITIATED CODE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF PAWNSHOPS IN THE DISTRICT PAWN SHOPS IN THE BEFORE DISTRICT? YES I WILL MOVE THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A CITY INITIATED CITY CODE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THE STATUS OF PAWN SHOPS IN THE B4 DISTRICT AND DIRECT STAFF TO DO SO. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIF BY SAYING I I OOSED MOTION CARRI A SIX ZERO SO IF Y BRING FORWA FOR US AND WE WL HAVE THIS COERSATION AND Y'RE MORE IN DEPTH IN THEUTURE. S SIR. SORRY,AYOR PARDONHE INTERRUPTION. THIS WASN'T FORL IZED IN THE STAFF REPORT BUT WE WERE HOPING TO GET SOME GUIDANCE EXPLORING ADDITIONAL REZONINGS ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THAT. STAFF BELIEVES THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES BUT WE NEED NEEDED WE WE WE WOULD LIKE GUIDANCE FROM YOU IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY. MY MY RESPONSE WOULD BE YES I THINK IF WE IF WE CONSIDER IF WE HAVE A GOOD THING GOING HERE AND WE HOPE WE SEE CHANGES HAPPENING, I THINK IT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL ZONING AGAIN CONSIDER NOT ADOPT TONIGHT BUT CONSIDER AND TALK IN THE FUTURE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ASKED OF ME LIKE FOUR TIMES IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS AND I JUST WANT TO TRY TO CLEAR THE AIR IF POSSIBLE AND IT'S RELATED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE SAY THERE HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY OPPORTUNITIES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT DAVID BONGS BECAUSE I'D REALLY JUST LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT'S TRUE. HAS THAT HAS THAT COME UP BECAUSE I'M BEING I HAVE HEARD ALL KINDS OF THINGS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY. BUT IF THERE ACTUALLY IS SOMEBODY INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THAT AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WHAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO. MR. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO WE HAVE RECEIVED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DAVID FONG AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WOULD INVOLVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S WITH BEFORE AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD INVOLVE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH BEFORE AS A ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WERE THAT STIMULATING OUR INTERNAL DISCUSSION IS WHERE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AROUND THE 9494 STREET NODE SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE LYNDALE RETROFIT AS WOULD THE CONSULTANT TEAM WHO CREATE YOU KNOW IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY WOULD THEY HAVE ADMITTED 94TH STREET HAD THINGS OCCURRED PRIOR YOU KNOW AT THE CULMINATION OF THEIR PROCESS? WE DON'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE BUT KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT IS A DONE DEAL, THAT IT'S SOMETHING SHOULD GO FORWARD CONCRETE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD STUDY BECAUSE THE TIME APPEARS TO BE SOMEWHAT OF THE ESSENCE AND FRANKLY JUST WITH THE GAINS OF THE LYNDALE RETROFIT WE JUST NEED MORE REGULATORY IN ORDER TO CONTINUE FURTHERANCE OF THAT PLAN. IF GOING TO EXECUTE IT TO THE FULL VISION. SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL IN IN NO WAY IS THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON TRYING TO BUY THAT PROPERTY THOUGH CORRECT MAYOR COUNCILOR ADELE SANDRA THAT SOUNDS I WORK FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY AND I'M JUST KIDDING. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M NOT MAKING IT UP THERE. THE AMAZING THINGS THAT COME OUT OF OF PEOPLE YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE BECAUSE THEY GET WIND OF SOMETHING AND IT GETS CONSTRUED AND THEY PLAY TELEPHONE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE WHAT ANYBODY SAID. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THANK YOU I'M NEVER AMAZED BY THAT TO BE HONEST. SO BUT NO, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR PLANNING STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS ONE. OUR FINAL ITEM ON NUMBER FOUR IS 4.9. THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WITH A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY. MS. LONG GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL TONIGHT I'M PLEASED TO PRESENT RAY HAYHURST FROM KIM LANGHORNE AND ASSOCIATES TO GIVE PRESENTATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER KIRK ROBERTS. IT'S BEEN A CHANGE OF WHAT IT'S IN YOUR AGENDA SO WE ARE FLEXIBLE IF NOTHING ELSE SHOW . GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN RAY HAYHURST WITH HORNE. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT IS AS FOLLOWS WE'LL PROVIDE A OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT ITS PURPOSE AND OUR GOALS AS WELL AS PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD THUS FAR FROM THE PUBLIC WILL PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS AS WELL AS OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM. AND AT THE CONCLUSION WILL PROVIDE SEVERAL RECOMMENDED MOTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION . AS A OVERVIEW THE CITY IS UPDATING ITS NEIGHBORHOOD MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FOR LOCAL STREETS. THIS WILL BUILD ON EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC PROGRAMS AND ADD NEW PROGRAMS THAT REFLECT THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO, SAFETY AND LIVABILITY OF ITS NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE THE PROGRAM EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO NAVIGATE THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICES PROVIDED THE CITY. SPECIFICALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STRENGTHENS AND INTEGRATES THE CITY'S EXISTING PROGRAMS. LAST DECEMBER THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK AT UPDATING THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE FIVE ELEMENTS THAT SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM SPEED AWARENESS PROGRAM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK ACCESS D THE INTENTS TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE TO MANAGE TRAFFIC SPEEDS, IMPROVE SAFETY AND, INCREASE ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WALKING, BIKING AND TAKING TRANSIT. SO THE OVERALL GOALS THE PROGRAM ARE LISTED ARE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. THEY INCLUDE SAFETY, MOBILITY, ACCESSIBILITY EQUITY. IN THIS CONTEXT MAKING SURE THAT ALL COMMUNITIES EXPERIENCE BETTER HEALTH AND WELL-BEING WITH A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON DISADVANTAGED POPULATIONS AND POPULATIONS THAT TRADITIONALLY DON'T ACCESS CERTAIN CITY CITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS AND LASTLY THE GOALS OF EFFICACY AND FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY AS WELL AS MAKING THE PROGRAM CLEAR AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND. SO MORE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE AWARE OF THE PROGRAM AND ITS BENEFITS. WE KICK THIS PROJECT OFF FEBRUARY. WE HAD TWO PHASES OF ENGAGEMENT. THE FIRST PHASE WE INTRODUCED THE PROJECT AND LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC SAFETY. LATER ON IN THE SPRING WE UPDATES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THIS MATTER THE CITY COUNCIL AND WE INCORPORATE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD INTO A SET OF DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE HAD ANOTHER ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OVER THE SUMMER. WE HAVE REFINED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN OUR REPORT. AS I MENTIONED THERE ARE TWO ROUNDS OF ENGAGEMENTS. WE HAD TWO VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSES, SEVERAL POP UP EVENTS . WE REACHED ALMOST 200 PEOPLE IN PERSON AND IN ADDITION ON OUR INTERACTI MAP AND ONLINE SURVEYS HOSTED ON THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON WEBSITE WE REACHED ALMOST 300 RESPONSES BETWEEN THE TWO BETWEEN THE MAP AND THE SURVEYS. AND LASTLY THERE HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCEMENTS IN COVERAGE IN THE STAR TRIBUNE AND BLOOMINGTON BRIEFING. THIS SHOWS THE SURVEY RESPONSES NOTABLY IN OUR FIRST ROUND OF ENGAGEMENT WE HAD A MORE DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SURVEY AS COMPARED TO OUR SECOND ROUND OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS. ADMITTEDLY IT WAS A CHALLENGE TO DESPITE EFFORTS TO REACH A GREATER CROSS SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. BUT WHAT WE DID FROM THE SECOND SURVEY WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED WERE INTERESTED IN USING A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CALMING PROCESS TO REPORT THEIR TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS. WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE NEW RECOMMENDED LOWER SPEED LIMITS, OVER TWO THIRDS OF RESPONDENTS SAID THEY STRONGLY SUPPORTED OR SOMEWHAT SUPPORTED THE RECOMMENDATION. AND LASTLY, WHEN ASKED WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC SAFETY NEAR SCHOOLS NEAR NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS ENFORCING SPEED LIMITS, LOWERING SPEED LIMITS AND INSTALLING TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS WERE THE TOP THREE CONSIDERATIONS. BROADLY WE HEARD FOUR FOUR MAIN THEMES. I THINK THE FIRST IS THE LIMITED AWARENESS OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC CALMING AND ITS BENEFITS. SECONDLY WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY NEAR SCHOOLS NOT ONLY THE SAFETY OF MANY OF OUR CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY BUT, ALSO SAFETY BROADLY SPEAKING OF VULNERABLE ROAD USERS. WE HEARD SPECIFIC SAFETY CUT TRAFFIC CONCERNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AS I KNOW NON-LOCAL STREETS NON-LOCAL STREETS WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY THE PURVIEW OF THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM. AND LASTLY LASTLY WE HEARD EXCITEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT USING NEW NEW TOOL NEW PROCESS TO EASILY TRAFFIC CALMING. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE WERE BEFORE WE PROVIDED UPDATES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IN THE SPRING. WE RECEIVED GREAT FEEDBACK. YOU KNOW, BROADLY SPEAKING THERE SEEMED TO BE SUPPORT FOR LOWER SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS ESPECIALLY NEAR SCHOOLS. AND GENERAL SUPPORT FOR CHANGES THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS PROGRAM. BUT STAFF WAS ASKED TO BRING BRING BACK ADDITIONAL DATA ON IMPLEMENTATION COSTS AS WELL AS FUNDING SOURCES. LAST WEEK WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING AND THEY DID NOT ACCEPT. THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND ACCEPTANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM BY A 4 TO 2 VOTE. WHILE THERE WAS GENERAL SUPPORT OF ZONE SPEED LIMITS AND A MORE ACCESSIBLE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM, THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS ON LOWER SPEED LIMITS FOR LOCAL STREETS AND THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT THE COSTS OF SPEED LIMIT IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL AS RETAINING A SPECIAL TAX ASSESSMENT FOR FUNDING TRAFFIC CALMING . SO BASED ON THE SORRY THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL IN LATE SPRING AS WELL AS A REVIEW OF EXISTING CONDITIONS AND BEST PRACTICES WE'RE RECOMMENDING A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT FOR ALL LOCAL STREETS WITH CONSIDERATION OF A LOWER SPEED LIMIT IN SCHOOL ZONES NOTABLY I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS RECOMMENDATION IS FOR LOCAL STREETS ONLY AND DOES NOT INCLUDE NON-LOCAL THAT ARE CURRENTLY POSTED AT 30 MILES PER HOUR. SO THAT INCLUDES ONE YEAR FOR STREET 106TH STREET AND 110TH STREET JUST TO NAME A COUPLE. AND JUST FOR FOR REFERENCE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS A MAP OF EXISTING SPEED LIMITS AS THEY ARE TODAY. WE WERE ASKED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON SPEED LIMITS IN SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND AS A REMINDER, EFFECTIVE AUGUST 20, 19, ALL CITIES IN MINNESOTA CAN SET LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS LOCALLY SEVERAL CITIES SUCH AS A DANA AND SAINT LOUIS HAVE IMPLEMENTED LOWER SPEED LIMITS ON THEIR LOCAL STREETS. RICHFIELD IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF STUDYING THEIR SPEED LIMITS AND YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE CITIES OF MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL HAVE SAID A 20 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON MOST OF THEIR LOCAL STREETS. WE WILL POINT OUT THAT IN BOTH MINNEAPOLIS SAINT PAUL GENERALLY SPEAKING THEIR LOCAL STREETS HAVE A NARROWER RIGHT AWAY AND MORE PARKING DEMAND. SO IT NATURALLY FEELS FOR DRIVERS OF A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD TRAVEL HOPEFULLY CLOSER TO 20 MILES PER HOUR. SO GOING BACK TO EDINA AND SAINT LOUIS PARK, WE WANT TO NOTE THAT SPEED LIMITS VARY IN BOTH CITIES AND IS MORE DEPENDENT ON THE CONTEXT AND CAN CAN CHANGE A BASED ON A NUMBER OF FACTORS. SO IT'S NOT ACROSS THE BOARD SPEED LIMIT WHICH HAS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE RESEARCH HAS SOME PROS AND CONS YOU KNOW WELL NAMELY YOU JUST CAN'T THE LACK OF CONSISTENCY MAY BE AN ISSUE FOR FOR DRIVERS. THE MAJOR TAKEAWAY ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO COMPREHENSIVE POST IMPLEMENTATION EVALUATION LOCALLY. MANY OF E EVALUATIO NAONWIDE HAVE BN FOR LARGER CITIESUCH AS CY OF BOSTON A CITY OF SEATE . SO O GOALS F SETTING SED LIMITS ARERE T FOLLOWING FIRST WE WANT TO PROMOTE SAFER . SO WE WANT TO SET SPEED LIMITS LOWER PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE THE NEAR SCHOOLS AS WELL AS AREAS WITH A VULNERABLE ROAD USERS AS THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS. IT KIND OF EMPHASIZES WHY WE CARE ABOUT SPEED THE RISK TO PEDESTRIAN GREATLY INCREASES AS DRIVER SPEED INCREASES. SECONDLY AND THIS GETS BACK TO MY POINT EARLIER WE WANT TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY FOR DRIVERS AND TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY WITH THE SPEED LIMIT. AND LASTLY, WANT TO SET REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE'VE THAT CITY STAFF HAS COLLECTED LOCAL STREETS. MOST DRIVERS ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 25 MILES PER HOUR OR LOWER ON LOCAL STREETS WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY POSTED 30 MILES PER HOUR. SO WE WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO SET REASONABLE EXPECTATIONS AND AGAIN TO ENCOURAGE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE. AND LASTLY, WE WANT TO SET SPEED LIMITS, SUPPORT THE ROAD HIERARCHY AND OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM WHICH KIRK WILL TOUCH ON SHORTLY. YEP. COUNCILMEMBERS KIRK ROBERTS TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER. SO I WANTED TO SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND SUPPORT FOR THE SPEED LIMIT THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED ON OUR LOCAL STREETS. TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION FOCUSED ON LOCAL STREETS INCLUDING THOSE SPEED LIMITS. WE'RE PRESENTING IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THE COUNCIL ASKED THAT WE ESTABLISH A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF CHANGES TO MANAGE ON LOCAL STREETS INCLUDING SPEED LIMITS IN THE NEXT MONTHS STAFF ARE GOING TO BE ADVANCING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPEED LIMIT CHANGES ON THE LARGER NON COUNTY ROADWAYS IN THE CITY AND THAT'S THE MAP YOU SEE IN OF YOU. HOWEVER, THE TWO THINGS ARE RELATED A LITTLE BIT AND IF IT'S THOUGHT IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO MAKE A DECISION ON BOTH THE LOCAL STREET SPEED LIMITS AND THESE LARGER STREETS WE COULD BRING BOTH OF THESE FORWARD IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO YOU. BUT TONIGHT WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR THE LOCAL STREETS AS TO GO AHEAD ONE MORE AS TO HOW THEY'RE RELATED THIS SLIDE IS JUST SORT OF A ROAD HIERARCHY WITH A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON LOCAL STREETS. THE PROPOSAL THAT MOVE FORWARD, THE LARGER START STREET STARTING COLLECTORS BEING POSTED AT 30 MILES AN HOUR. THERE'S A COUPLE ARTERIALS WOULD BE POSTED AT 35 THAT'S NAMELY AMERICAN BOULEVARD TO SOME PORTIONS OF 98TH STREET. THE TROUBLE AND THIS IS A NICE HIERARCHY THE REASON BEHIND IT GO FORWARD UNDER THE CURRENT HIERARCHY IS 30 MILES AN HOUR IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON LOCAL STREETS AS WELL AS MOST AS AS MOST OF OUR COLLECTOR STREETS. SO THIS INCLUDES ROADS LIKE 102ND STREET 106TH STREET IS WHERE WE MENTIONED XERXES AVENUE AND THE. THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT DRIVERS TEND TO OPTIMIZE FOR TIME AND WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THEM KEEP THE BULK OF THEIR TRIPS ON THAT COLLECTOR ARTERIALS SYSTEM. YET WE HAVE A SPEED LIMIT THAT'S THE SAME OUR LOCAL STREETS PROVIDING NO TIME ADVANTAGE TO USING THE COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS. THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO KEEP TRAFFIC CALM IS KEEP PEOPLE ON THE COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS FOR THEIR TRIPS. WE'D LIKE TO SET SPEED LIMITS THAT DOVETAIL WITH THAT THE UNDER THE CURRENT THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD EFFECTED SUCH A CHANGE IS PERHAPS TO RAISE THE SPEED LIMITS ON COLLECTOR STREETS AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT BUT YOU THE KIND OF THE DILEMMA THAT WE'VE BEEN IN HISTORICALLY HERE. SO SETTING CONSISTENT THE LOWER SPEEDS ON LOCAL STREETS ENCOURAGES TRAFFIC USE A COLLECTOR IN ARTERIAL SYSTEM INSTEAD OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND NEXT SEVERAL ON THE 25 MILE AN HOUR RECOMMENDATION. SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES ON VESEY ROAD AND YOUR FREQUENTLY WERE ALL CONTACTED ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES ON VARIOUS STREETS. THIS IS JUST THE ONE THAT WE HEARD ABOUT MOST AND SO I'M GOING TO USE IT FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES. IT'S NOT TO CALL ANYONE OUT AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD REACHING OUT, THE NEIGHBORS TALKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THEY'RE FACING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NEIGHBORS UNDERSTAND THAT I DO APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THEIR THEIR POSITIONS SO. NEXT UP HERE THIS WE LAST YEAR IN RESPONSE TO SOME COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS WE ACTUALLY GATHERED DATA VESEY FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS GATHERED SPEED AND VOLUME DATA AND I APPLIED IT OUT HERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A SCATTER PLOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING ON VESEY ROAD WITH THE 30 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT OVERLAID ON TOP. THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NOTABLE. FIRST OFF, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY AT OR BELOW 30 MILES AN HOUR. THE REASON INTERESTING IS IF YOU TALK TO MOST DRIVERS IN THE CITY AND IT'S NOT JUST BLOOMINGTON, IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE YOU KNOW BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THE LOCAL STREET SPEED LIMITS ARE 30 MILES AN HOUR. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, ASK SPOUSE AND SEE WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. ASK THEM WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS OUTSIDE. IF THEY'VE RECENTLY TAKEN THEIR DRIVER'S TEST THEY MIGHT KNOW BUT THE REST OF MINNESOTA DOESN'T BUT YET THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE INTEREST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS. THEY HAVE THIS SENSE OF SELF PROTECTION FROM THEM AND THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEY'VE COME TO THIS EQUILIBRIUM SPEED THAT'S PRETTY GOOD IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THEY FOUND A WAY TO OPERATE CONSISTENTLY EXCEPT FOR THE UPPER RIGHT THIS PERSON'S IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD . EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS TO HAVE ONE OR TWO OF THESE. THIS IS A PERSON THAT'S DRIVING FAST. WHEN WE GET EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS CONCERNED ABOUT SPEED THIS IS THE PERSON THEY'RE WRITING ABOUT. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DRIVING APPROPRIATELY GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, GIVEN THE RULES AND THIS PERSON IS QUITE A CHALLENGE FOR ENGINEERS AND FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE TRAFFIC CALMING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IS GEARED TOWARDS CHANGING A BEHAVIOR OF ALL THE DRIVERS OF EVERYONE ON THE ROADWAY AND STEP ONE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL SO WE DON'T HAVE LOT OF TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL TO DEAL WITH THIS PERSON AND I DON'T THINK WE'D BE HONESTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN HE'S HE OR SHE IS BOMBING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. SO THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FROM THIS SLIDE THOUGH WHEN I GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS AND I'M TRYING TO RESPOND TO NEIGHBORS, THERE AREN'T A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MERIT CITY EXPENDITURES PUBLIC DOLLARS SPENT TO SOLVE A PROBLEM MOST PEOPLE ARE AT OR BELOW THE SPEED LIMIT THEY'RE OPERATING ACCORDING TO THE RULES. THERE'S NOT A LOT THAT I CAN DO FOR THIS AREA RIGHT NOW? SO ADVCE THE NEXTNE IF YOU WOULD. SO THIS IS WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE AT 25 MILES AN HOUR. THIS IS THE SAME DATA WE JUST PUT THE 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. WHAT GOOD DOES THIS CHANGE DO ? SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOVE THE LIMIT AND TWO THIRDS BELOW THAT LINE. YOU STILL GOT THE KNUCKLEHEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING BUT THE THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS AS A SPEED LIMIT IS THAT IT AFFIRMS WHAT A MAJORITY THE DRIVERS ARE DOING ANYWAY. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO BE ON PUBLIC POLICY WHEN YOU CAN SAY TO PEOPLE THE WAY THAT YOU'RE RESPONDING HERE, THE WAY THAT YOU'RE MANAGING THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. THAT'S ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR WE'D LIKE AND THE OTHER THIRD WE CAN REACH SO ADVANCED ONE MORE THIS IS A GROUP THE GROUP ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT LINE NOW WE CAN THE FIRST THING WE CAN DO IS LOUDLY AND PROUDLY PROCLAIM THAT THE SPEED LIMIT ON LOCAL STREETS IN BLOOMINGTON IS 25 MILES AN HOUR AND MAKE THAT KNOWN. WE'VE GOT THE ENTRYWAY SIGNS AND WE'LL HAVE THE OTHER THINGS THAT THAT'LL BE TALKED ABOUT AS RAY PROCEEDS THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION. AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVESTED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIP, THEY HAVE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. THEY LIKE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'LL RESPOND TO THAT IF WE SET AN EXPECTATION THAT THIS IS HOW WE THINK YOU SHOULD BEHAVE, WE WILL SEE SPEED REDUCTIONS IN THAT IN THAT TOP PORTION CLOSER COMPLIANCE 25 IS MORE ATTAINABLE AND THAT'S ALSO WHY PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON SPEED LIMIT IN THE U.S. IS 25 MILES AN HOUR ON LOCAL STREETS. SO COUNCIL WHEN WE THE SAME STREET GO BACK ONE MORE WE GO BACK YEAH IF WE CAME BACK IN A YEAR AFTER CHANGING THE SPEED LIMITS TWO YEARS THREE YEARS WE'D SEE SPEEDS COME DOWN ON SOME STREETS WE DON'T SEE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE CAN DO SOME OF THOSE LOWER COST TREATMENTS LIKE INFORMATION MAYBE WE PUT A RADAR SIGN OUT OR THE POLICE DEPLOY THEIR SPEED RADAR TRAILER FOR A WHILE JUST TO INFORM DRIVERS HEY YOU'RE GOING A LITTLE FASTER THAN YOU SHOULD BE ON THIS ROADWAY. THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW. PERHAPS WE JUST HAVE A LOT OF BUSY PARENTS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT OF THEIR SPEEDS IN THAT AREA SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BRING THAT DOWN TO THE COMMUNITIES. EXPECTATION IS FOR ON THAT STREET IF WE HAD SOME SPECIFIC PROBLEM AREAS THEN WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE PERHAPS WITH SOME ROADWAY THROUGH THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM OR IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE'RE DOING SOME RECONSTRUCTION IN THERE AND THEN WE GO AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO ADDRESS SAFETY ISSUES THAT STILL REMAINING ONCE WE'VE BROUGHT THOSE SPEEDS DOWN TO WHERE WE WANT THEM. SO THE QUESTION COMES UP IT HAS ON VESEY IS WHY NOT GO AHEAD AND SET THE SPEED LIMIT AT 20 MILES AN HOUR IF WE GET SOME BANG FOR THE BUCK FOR 25 LET'S GO TO 20 AND THAT'S TEMPTING THE NEXT GRAPH PROVIDES SOME CLUES SO IF YOU MOVE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 20 WITH OUR EXISTING DATA SET YOU'VE TAKEN TWO THIRDS OF THE DRIVERS WITH THAT CHANGE AND YOU'VE MADE THEM VIOLATORS THE ROAD THAT THE CLUES BEING SENT BY THE ROADS IN BLOOMINGTON SEEM TO SUGGEST THAT DRIVERS FEEL SAFE. THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AT ABOUT 25 MILES AN HOUR BELOW WE'VE ARBITRARILY THIS SPEED LIMIT LOWER AGAIN THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, THEY BELIEVE THEY'RE SAFE MORAL CONSCIOUS PEOPLE AND WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT HOW YOU'RE OPERATING IS INCORRECT AND WHY IN MAJORITY AND HOW THEY'RE OPERATING IS NO LONGER CORRECT THAT'S NOT JUST GOING TO IRRITATE THEM BUT IT'S GOING TO SEEM LIKE IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE ARBITRARILY AND. IT WILL LOSE CREDIBILITY BECAUSE THE ROAD, THE COMMUNITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE IS NOT SENDING THE SIGNALS THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT SPEED TO GO BASED ON OUR DENSITY THE LAND, THE WAY THAT WE DEVELOPED OUR ROAD SYSTEM, IT JUST WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE. ANY CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR WOULD BE SHORT LIVED AND YET HAVE A CONSTANT STRUGGLE TO BE TRYING TO MANAGE AND INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR SPEEDS IF. WE DID WANT TO CHANGE THE ROAD GEOMETRY. WE'D HAVE TO GO IN AND PHYSICALLY CONSTRUCTION INSTALL SPEED HUMPS OR OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING TECHNIQUES THIS ROADWAY ON A FAIRLY CONSISTENT BASIS ONCE WE GOT THROUGH WITH THIS HALF MILE STRETCH WE'VE GOT THE REST OF THE 350 MILES OF CITY ROADWAY TO TACKLE AT THAT POINT SEVERAL CITIES I WANT TO CHANGE JUST SAY SEVERAL CITIES AS WAS ALLUDED TO HAVE GONE DOWN TO A 20 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THESE ARE CITIES LIKE SEATTLE, BOSTON AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THOSE CITIES THE PARKING DEMAND IS VERY HIGH OFTEN ON A LOCAL STREET YOU'RE DOWN TO ONE LANE OF TRAFFIC AND YOU'RE HAVING TO NEGOTIATE. YOU'RE PRETTY FORTUNATE IF YOU GET UP TO 20 MILES AN HOUR IN THOSE CITIES THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THEM THEY'RE AFFIRMING WHAT PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW AND THEY'VE HAD GOOD SUCCESS AND MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL DONE SIMILAR AGAIN CITIES WITH A MUCH HIGHER PARKING DEMAND A MUCH DIFFERENT TIME WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPED IN THE PROCESS AND THOSE SPEED LIMITS COULD MAKE VERY GOOD SENSE FOR THOSE CITIES. THE STUDIES ARE OUT THERE. WE'LL SEE HOW THEY WHEN THEY DO SOME FOLLOW UP WORK. BUT THE WAY THAT BLOOMINGTON HAS BUILT OUT THE WAY OUR LAND USE HAS SHAPED UP IS A VERY DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. AND SO THE SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS HOLD THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IN BLOOMINGTON IS 25 MILES AN HOUR AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING. SO COUNCIL IF THERE AREN'T ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SPECIFIC PORTION I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO RATE OF NOW QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN JUST A QUICK ONE BECAUSE THERE WAS THE ARGUMENT MADE AT THE 20 ON THAT EARLIER SLIDE THAT WENT FROM 26% DOWN TO 13% AND THAT WAS THE MAIN ARGUMENT THE ON THE VESEY PIECE THAT YOU END UP HAVING THAT 10% REDUCTION IN THE CHANCES OF FOLKS GETTING HURT SO AM I HEARING YOU SAYING CORRECTLY THAT WITH THE WAY THAT OUR ROADS ARE CONSTRUCTED WE REALLY WOULDN'T FIND THAT SAME BENEFIT TO GOING DOWN TO 20% MISDEMEANOR IN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO THIS RISK IS INDEPENDENT OF THE SPECIFIC STREETS. IT'S JUST TO SAY THAT AS SPEED INCREASES THE RISK TO PEDESTRIAN DOES NOT INCREASE LINEARLY IT ACTUALLY INCREASES SOMEWHAT ALGEBRAICALLY AND SO THERE'S A HIGHER RISK TO PEDESTRIANS WHEN SPEEDS ARE HIGHER. AND SO I DON'T TAKE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT PARTICULAR GRAPH MY ARGENT IS MERELY THA BLOOMINGTON SEETS MUCH MORE MANAGEAB. EY WILL BEUCH MORE SF ENFORCING AT 20 MES AN HOUR, 25 MILESN HOUR POSD THAN YOU WOU EVER GET AT 20 MILES AN HOURND IN FACTOING TO A 20 MILEN HOUR SPEED LIMIT WOULD BE A I WOULD HE VERY LILE LONG TERM ON DRIVER SPEEDS IHINK IN OOMINGTON MAR COUNCILMEMBS ALL PROCEEDORWARD. SO TOUING ON THE SECD PART OF O RECOMMENDATIO WHICH I NSIDERATIONOR SCHOOL ZON SPD LIMITS. THISOULD INCLU POSTED 20 MILEER HOUR SPEED LIMITS ON SELT LARGER STRTS AROUND PUBCND PRIVATE CHARTE SCHOOLS DURINGRRIVAL AND DISSSAL PERIODS. IS RECOMMEATION WOULD B COINCIDE WITH UPDATG THE CITY'S SAFE RES THE SCHOOL DISTRICTIDE PLAN AND SO SUPPORTING THO LOWER SPEED LIMITS IN SCHOOL ZONES WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN BIKES, BICYCLE MOBILITY NOTABLY A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN THE CITY ARE LOCATED ON LOCAL STREETS SO. WE RECOMMEND COORDINATION WITH WITH THE COUNTY ON SETTING THOSE SPEED LIMITS ON THEIR ROADWAYS SO OUR PLAN FOR LOWERING LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS HAS FOUR MAIN COMPONENTS AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THEM. THE FIRST COMPONENT INCLUDES POLICY CODE AND PROCE CHANGES. SO IN ADDITION TO ADOPTING A POLICY O25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMITS ON LOCAL STREETS WITH CONSIDERATION OF A LOWER SCHOOL ZON SPEED LIMIT THERE WOULD BE CHANGES TO THE CODE WHICH INCLUDE A ORDINANCE THAT EXPLICITLY STATES THE CITY'S AUTHORITY WITHOUT INCLUDING SPECIFIC SPEED LIMITS. THE SECOND PART OF THAT ARE SECOND THING TO NOTE IS THAT THERE ARE NO CODE CHANGES NEEDED FOR SETTING SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS ANY CHANGES TO SPEED LIMITS ON LARGER NON COUNTY ROADWAYS WOULD BE SET BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND UPDATED BY OFFICIAL MAP. WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR A SIGNAGE PLAN FOR LOCAL STREETS SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE A 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNAGE EACH SCHOOL ZONE FLASHER ASSEMBLY AND SPEED RADARS, SIGNAGE. WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL PLAN FOR NOW LOCAL STREETS WHERE THERE IS A LOWER SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMIT AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE COORDINATION WITH COUNTY AND NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES. THE SECOND PERMANENT COMPONENT OF OUR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE NEW SPEED LIMITS. AS KIRK MENTIONED, WE RECOGNIZE THAT COMPLIANCE IS 100% COMPLIANCE WITH NEW SPEED LIMITS IS AN SO WE WANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND FOCUS ON STRATEGIES THAT PROVIDE THAT REAL TIME FEEDBACK THAT SHIFTS DRIVER BEHAVIOR. SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE IMPLEMENTING MOBILE RADAR SIGNS AT LOCATIONS SUCH AS SPEED TRANSMISSION ZONES ENTERING THE CITY SCHOOL ZONES AND IDENTIFIED PROBLEMATIC LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S A HISTORY OF EXCESSIVE SPEEDING WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOUR MAJOR COMPONENTS TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN ALL RELATED TO SO THEN AGAIN THAT INCLUDES 25 MILE PER HOUR SIGNAGE SPEED RADAR SIGNS, SCHOOL ZONE ASSEMBLIES AS WELL AS VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS THAT WOULD BE DEPLOYED KIND OF IN THE INITIAL LOWERING OF THE SPEED LIMITS AND BE POSITIONED AT A KEY GATEWAY TO THE CITY AS FAR AS FUNDING SOURCES GO, THAT NEW 25 MILE PER HOUR SIGNAGE AND YOU KNOW, WE ASSUME USING THAT IN PLACE SIGNPOSTS AND THAT WOULD BE OUR IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCE IS THE CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDING WITH THE GENERAL FUND USED FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT OF THAT SIGNAGE THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE USED TO NEW SPEEDER RADAR SIGNS IN CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WOULD BE USED TO FUND THE SCHOOL ZONE FLASHER ASSEMBLY AND VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS. AND THEN LASTLY AND MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART PIECE OF THIS IS THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT STAFF COMPLETE AND PRESENT THE INITIAL EVALUATION LINE OF SPEED LIMIT CHANGES TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN THREE YEARS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF SPEED CHANGES. SO THIS EVALUATION WOULD LOOK AT BEFORE AND AFTER CHANGES SO BEFORE AND AFTER THE CHANGE TO THE SPEED LIMIT AND IT FOCUS ON SPEEDS ON LOCAL STREETS CRASH HISTORY PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SAFETY METRICS AND ON TO OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUESTS PROGRAM. SO JUST AS A REMINDER OF WHAT TRAFFIC CALMING IS, TRAFFIC CALMING IS CHANGING THE STREET DESIGN TO ENCOURAGE SLOWER SPEEDS AND REDUCE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. THE CHANGE IN STREET DESIGN SUPPORTED BY EDUCATION AND TRAFFIC AWARENESS STRATEGIES LEANING LESS ON ENFORCEMENT OUR SPECIFIC GOAL WITH TRAFFIC WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS TO HELP CITY PRIORITIZE REQUESTS FROM THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE BY IDENTIFYING A SET OF SELECTION CRITERIA WE REVIEWED THE EXISTING TRAFFIC CALMING PROCESS AND. WE'VE NOTED SOME AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT WE'RE RECOMMENDING A TWO YEAR CYCLICAL PROCESS THAT AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THAT WOULD START WITH REQUESTS SUBMITTED BY THE PUBLIC PRIOR PRIORITIZATION OF THE REQUESTS BY CITY STAFF WITH CRITERIA I'LL GO INTO ON A FURTHER SLIDE IN THE SPRING OF YEAR ONE THERE WOULD BE INFORMATION GATHERING SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE SPEEDS TRAFFIC VOLUMES ,PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE ACTIVITY AS WELL AS INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY TO BETTER DEFINE WHAT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. CITY STAFF WOULD PRESENT A RECOMMENDED TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENT AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS ALSO THE OPTION TO INSTALL A TRAIL TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE SO THAT MEMBERS IN THE COMMUNITY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND OF HOW MORE PERMANENT INSTALLATION WOULD FUNCTION. SO BASED ON INPUT INFORMATION GATHERING AND COMMUNITY INPUT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND A TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENT FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF YEAR ONE FOR APPROVAL ASSUMING APPROVAL IN YEAR TWO IT WOULD GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THIS TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM IS ELIGIBLE FOR LOCAL ONLY LOCAL STREETS. TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES ARE NON STREETS WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY HIS STAFF USING PROGRAMS AND CITY DESIGNATED CITY AS I MENTIONED BY ESTABLISHING A SET PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA STAFF CAN PRIORITIZE REQUESTS CITYWIDE REALLY WHERE COMMUNITY AND TRANSPORTATION NEEDS ARE GREATEST. SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED FIVE CRITERIA LISTED OR A WEIGHTED HIGHEST TO LOWEST SO THAT INCLUDES TRAFFIC PER PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE EXPERIENCE EQUITY COMMUNITY DESTINATIONS SO THAT INCLUDES SCHOOLS, PARKS AND OTHER IMPORTANT COMMUNITY DESTINATIONS AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE NEARBY THE REQUESTED LOCATION SPEED DATA UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT WIDELY AVAILABLE FOR ALL LOCAL STREETS BUT THAT IS ADDITIONAL DATA POINT THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IF ALL THE REQUESTS HAD SOMEHOW HAD SPEED DATA THAT WOULD BE A BONUS CRITERIA . WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS TRAFFIC CALMING OPTIONS. SO THIS INCLUDES EFFECTIVENESS . SO THE PROPENSITY OF A TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENT TO SPEEDS REDUCE NUMBER OF CRASHES AND REDUCE THE SEVERITY OF CRASHES COST IS A VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION IN SO THAT'S NOT ONLY THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS BUT IT'S THE LONG TERM OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE YEAR ROUND SUMMER FALL SPRING WINTER AS WELL WE WANT TO CONSIDER MAINTENANCE ADA ACCESSIBILITY IMPACTS TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY AS WELL AS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WE SIMPLIFIED THE EXISTING RANGE OF TOOLBOX OR RANGE RANGE OF TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS TO TWO TIERS. THE FIRST TIER INCLUDES VERTICAL ELEMENTS SO THAT INCLUDES SPEED CUSHIONS SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED TABLES AS WELL AS CURB EXTENSION AND NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC CIRCLES. WE'VE INCLUDED MORE INFORMATION ON EACH OF THESE TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS IN THE REPORT. I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO TO TO KNOW THAT EACH OF THESE TOOLS HAS, YOU KNOW, A WORKS FOR DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO SOLVE AND ISSUES THAT RESIDENTS HAVE BROUGHT UP IN THIS FIRST TIER OF TRAFFIC CALMING OPTIONS. THERE'S THE OPTION TO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, INSTALL TRIAL DEVICES TO TEST THESE IDEAS AND TO GET THAT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND BY IN THE SECOND TIER OF TRAFFIC CALMING OPTIONS GENERALLY REQUIRE GENERALLY MORE COMPLEX AND REQUIRE MORE ENGINEERING. SOME OF THEM HAVE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO STREET NETWORK SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE SECOND TIER OF OPTIONS WHICH INCLUDES CHICANES PARTIAL CLOSURES DIVERT ERS AND CHOKERS WOULD BE THESE OPTIONS WOULD BE INCLUDED WITH THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AS WITH THE LOWER SPEED LIMITS WE'VE DEVELOPED THE IMPLEMENTATION THE FIRST COMPONENT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT WOULD BE REMOVING THE EXISTING PETITION REQUIREMENT AND APPLICATION FEE WHICH WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL BURDEN TO TWO RESIDENTS. SECONDLY, ALONG A SIMILAR THEME WE'RE RECOMMENDING CHANGING THE FUNDING STRUCTURE FROM A SPECIAL TAX ASSESSMENT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO INCORPORATE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AS I BEFORE THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROCESS WILL BE INTERTWINED WITH PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PROCESS SO AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE THE TAN BOXES INDICATE WHERE THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM WOULD SYNC UP WITH THE EXISTING STEPS IN THE PAVEMENT PROGRAM . SO IN YEAR ONE STARTING WITH A REQUEST IN THE WINTER THERE WOULD BE THE SPRING LOOK AHEAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE SUMMER THERE WOULD BE THE OPTION TO DEPLOY CALMING DEVICES AND THEN IN THE FALL THERE WOULD BE THAT NEIGHBORHO MEETING TO DISCUS RESIDENTS EXPIENCE WITH THERAFFIC CALMING DEVICES AND IF A CHANGES WOULD BE NEEDED BEFORE ADVANCING TO MORE PERMANENT TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE IN TERMS OF BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE IDENTIFIED THREE MAJOR LINE ITEMS SO THAT INCLUDES THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL TWO COUNTERS TO SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL DATA COLLECTION NEEDS AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR PERMANENT AND TRIAL TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS AS A MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A MIX OF FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE TIER ONE TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS SO THAT INCLUDES CITY COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES FUNDING FUNDING AND A REDUCED BUT NOT ELIMINATED SPECIAL TAX ASSESSMENT. YOU'LL KNOW IF THE ASTERISKS WERE RECOMMENDING THAT CITY COUNCIL STREET STRATEGIC PRIORITIES BE USED TO FUND THOSE TIER ONE TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS IN AREAS PRIORITIZED DUE TO EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS THEREFORE WAIVING THE NEED FOR A SPECIAL TAX ASSESSMENT AND LOWERING THE BURDEN ON THOSE COMMUNITIES AND THEN WE'RE RECOMMENDING EVALUATION. SO THAT'S AT THE PROJECT LEVEL. SO A EVALUATION WITHIN THREE YEARS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENT TO INCLUDE VEHICLE SPEEDS VOLUMES CRASH HISTORY BUT ALSO CONSIDERATION OF OTHER METRICS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. THE SECOND EVALUATION RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET IT EXACTLY RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AROUND. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CHECK IN WITHIN THREE YEARS, PERFORM THAT EVALUATION TO ASSESS WHO IN THE COMMUNITY IS USING THE PROGRAM HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING IT, WHAT IS THE IMPACT FUNDING AND STAFF RESOURCES AND WHAT IS THE GENERAL AWARENESS IN THE COMMUNITY WE RECOMMEND AGAIN SUPPORTING THE TRAFFIC THESE CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST PROGRAM WITH NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ENGAGEMENT PROVIDING ONE STOP SHOP ON CITY WEBSITE SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE CAN, KNOW WHAT THE CONSIDERATIONS ARE OF TRAFFIC CALMING TREATMENTS PERHAPS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THEIR STREET AND JUST BOOST AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR RESIDENTS FOR . WE ALSO RECOMMEND DEVELOPMENT OF A PLAIN LANGUAGE GUIDE AND USING THINGS SUCH AS YARD SIGNS AND SIDEWALK DETAILS TO MAKE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES MORE VISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO NOT JUST PEOPLE DRIVING BUT ALSO PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING ON STREETS AND WITH THAT WE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND AND MOTION OPTIONS THE FIRST OF WHICH IS TO ACCEPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND THE SECOND IS TO NOT ACCEPT THE PROGRAM AT THIS TIME BUT HAVE STAFF MODIFY THE PROGRAM AS YOU SEE FIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE. THANK YOU, MR. HURST. APPRECIATE IT. LOTS OF QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, I HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE ABOUT THE STUFF THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PMP. I DON'T SEE GENERALLY REDUCTION OF THE ACTUAL WIDTH OF THE ROAD WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'VE ABOUT BEFORE AS AN OPTION AS WELL. AND I'M SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT AS PART OF PMP ANALYSIS WOULD WOULD WE WOULD WE CONSIDER A FULL REDUCTION WHAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WIDENING AND THERE WE GO. WELL 10:00 A NARROWING OF THE ROAD ITSELF AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE OTHER TREATMENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED LIKE MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, YOU ARE CORRECT TO DATE WE HAVE NOT EXPLORED MOVING EXISTING URBAN GUTTERS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME NARROWING AT THE INTERSECTIONS. BUT IF WE HAD A TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST WE WOULD TREAT THAT DIFFERENTLY HERE IN THE FUTURE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I FEEL LIKE I'VE MISSED PART OF IT. NO, IT WAS JUST IT WAS JUST WHEN WE PUT WOODMAN WHEN YOU HAD THE SLIDE UP FOR THE TOOL KIT IT WASN'T PART OF THE TOOL KIT AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL OR THERE WAS A REASON IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE TOOL KIT OR JUST THE NARROWING YES CORRECT. NARROWING AS A AS ONE OF THESE OPTIONS IT INCLUDED. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT WE THE IT HASN'T BEEN INCLUDED TO DATE IS JUST THE COST AND ASSESSMENT OF THE CURB AND GUTTER IF IT THE STREET HAS EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER OUR CURRENT PRACTICE WITH STREETS THAT DON'T CURVING GUTTERS WE SEND THEM OUT A SURVEY AND WE SAY CITY STANDARD WITH IS 32 FEET BUT NOW IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO WEIGH IN AND IF YOU WANT 28 FEET THE PARKING WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND. SO WE'VE DONE THAT AND THE UPCOMING MEETINGS WE HAVE THE 2024 PROJECTS WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE TARGETED FOR THAT SURVEY BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT WITH STREETS THAT HAVE EXISTING CURVING GUTTER WHETHER IT'S TWO FEET WHICH IS OUR CURRENT STANDARD OR OUR OLD STANDARD WHICH IS 36 FEET JUST BECAUSE OF THE COSTS AND EXPENSE WE HAVEN'T FELT THAT PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT. SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO OPEN THAT UP, WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD THAT TO OUR TIER TWO THING. IT'S TO US IT'S MORE OF A FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR YOU KNOW 600 FEET OF CURB AND GUTTER IF IT'S ONE BLOCK AND IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILE LONG COST GOES UP REALLY QUICKLY AND UNDERSTOOD IS IT YOUR ASSESSMENT THAT THE SO THE COST OBVIOUSLY IS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER THAN THESE OTHER OPTIONS IN YOUR TOOLBOX COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD ESPECIALLY IF WE WERE ESSENTIALLY TEARING SOMETHING OUT WE JUST PUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. I TOTALLY GET THAT IS IS THERE A ON THE BENEFITS SIDE IS THERE IS THERE EVER ENOUGH BENEFIT TO DECIDE TO JUSFY THAT MEANING? IS THE ISHE THE NROWING KNOWINGHAT NARROWING IS A GOODOOL HOWOOD IS IT IN LIKE WOULD WE WAN TOAV THAT AS A A AN UERSTOOD CONSIDERIN OPTION SO THAT WE COULDIVE THAT INFMATION TO AESIDENT COMMUNITYNDAY YEAH IT'S GNG TO BE EXPENSIVEECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO B RIPPING OUT EVERYTHIN BU HERE'S T BENEFIT FOR YOU AND YOU KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM THAT WAY, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM THAT'S THE WAY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT THAT I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A REASON TO CONSIDER IT EVER MR. . MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I THINK THAT GOES TO PERSONAL PREFERENCE ON VALUES AND WHAT YOU VALUE SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A CLEAR ANSWER FROM THE COMMUNITY AND I WOULD SUSPECT IF WE DID A SURVEY WE'D GET 50% FOR AND 50% AGAINST AND WE'D LIKE OKAY SCRATCHING OUR HEADS WHAT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DECIDE BECAUSE? IT DOES HAVE NARROWER ROADS. DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND THAT HAS A BENEFIT AS WE'VE SEEN FROM SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN GRAPHICS YOU SAW EARLIER IN THE WINTER IF WE HAVE A WINTER LIKE WE IN 2022 2023, IT LIMITS YOUR ABILITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE IT LIMITS YOUR ABILITY FOR PARKING. SO IT'S ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT DO YOU VALUE AND HOW MUCH DO YOU VALUE IT FOR? SHE THANK YOU THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL ALL RIGHT WELL THANK YOU WE DID HAVE IN THE AGENDA THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY TO ITEM 4.9 AND I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW IF ANYONE HERE IN THE OR ON THE PHONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING ITEM 4.9 THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD NOW NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER IS COMING FORWARD. MR. BUTLER ANYBODY ON THE PHONE? MR. MAYOR NOBODY ON THE PHONE FOR THIS ITEM. ALL RIGHT THEN WE WILL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ON ITEM 4.9 TONIGHT AND I WILL TURN TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND OR POSSIBLE ACTION ON THIS AND I WILL SAY COUNCIL I MEAN I'LL JUST KICK IT OFF SEEN WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS WE SAID FLAT OUT NO WE COULDN'T JUST YOU CAN'T JUST REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT OUT OF THIS PROBLEM. WE'VE GOT TO WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADDRESS AND TALKED ABOUT THE EDUCATION, THE ENFORCEMENT, THE THE ENVIRONMENTAL THAT ARE POSSIBLE THAT WE WOULD MAKE AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES. AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT THIS PROPOSED PLAN TOUCHES ON MANY OF THOSE AND IT'S IT PLENTY OF OPTIONS AND PLENTY OF TOOLS IN THE TOOLKIT WE LOOK TO REDUCE THE SPEED IN IN NEHBORHOODS I WILL SAY ONE POINT THAT SURPRISED ME THE JUST LOOKING AT THE SPEEDS ON VESEY ROAD I NEVER HAVE GUESSED THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SUB 30 MILES AN HOUR ON AVERAGE AND THAT SURPRISES ME BUT ALSO THAT ENCOURAGES AND THEN ENCOURAGES ME THAT WE CAN GET THERE WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL AND WHETHER IT'S JUST ANECDOTAL THAT THERE'S ONE OR TWO SPEEDERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IT'S A CONSISTENT PROBLEM THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE WE HAVE DATA THAT SHOWS THAT IT'S POSSIBLE IT CAN BE SOLVED AND IT CAN BECOME THE NORM WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. I DON'T THINK WE WE DON'T WANT TO PULL PEOPLE OVER AND TICKET EVERYBODY INTO THIS WE WANT THIS JUST TO BECOME THE NORM EVERYBODY THINKS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU'RE DRIVING WITHIN THE SPEED LIMIT YOU'RE REASONABLY YOU'RE NOT PUTTING KIDS IN DANGER YOU'RE IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M ENCOURAGED BY THAT I'M ALSO ENCOURAGED JUST AS I SAT HERE BECAUSE I THINK IN THE PRESENTATION IT SAID THAT YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED ALWAYS HEAR THAT MINNEAPOLIS AND SAINT PAUL REDUCE THEIR SPEED LIMITS BUT THEY ALSO MENTIONED SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES. I JUST DID A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND CAME WITH IN ADDITION TO SAINT LOUIS PARK ANY DINER GOLDEN VALLEY SAINT ANTHONY ROCHESTER MAPLE GROVE, NEW BRIGHTON ARDEN HILLS, BAYPORT MELROSE AND A LOT OF MEDIA AND THAT WAS JUST AS I WAS SITTING HERE SCROLLING QUICKLY DURING THE PRESENTATION I APOLOGIZE. I WAS LISTENING BUT I WAS I WAS MULTITASKING WITH WHAT I WAS DOING AND SO THE 25 TO 25 NOT THE OTHER 20 BUT 225 AND SO AS WE GET THE MUCH EXPECTED BLOWBACK FROM SOME FOLKS THAT WERE JUST TRYING TO BE LIKE MINNEAPOLIS AND LOWERING OUR SPEED LIMIT, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE CURVE IN TERMS A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES IN IN WHO ARE LOOKING TO MAKE THEIR COMMUNITY SAFER BY REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25 MILES AN HOUR. SO AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS THIS IS A GOOD PROCESS I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO IT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK TAKEN ON THIS AND I THINK I'M I'M READY TO MOVE IT FORWARD AND AND CONSIDER IT AND MAKE IT PART OF WHAT WE HAVE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE IN RESPONSE TO ONCE AGAIN THE MOST COMMON THING THAT I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS IN THE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I. THANK YOU MAYOR SO I ALSO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE PROPOSAL FORWARD. I ALSO AGREE THAT MOST PEOPLE IN BLOOMINGTON DO NOT WHAT THE SPEED IS ON LOCAL STREETS. I DID MY OWN STUDY IS VERY SCIENTIFIC OF JUST ASKING PEOPLE RANDOMLY BUT I MEAN I JUST ASKED PEOPLE LIKE DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS? AND NOBODY NOBODY KNEW. AND SO THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS FOR US TO CONSIDER ACTUALLY ADDING MORE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I THINK I WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AT ONE OF THE SEATTLE STUDIES AND THEY DID SAY SPEED LIMIT SIGNS INSTALLED IN GREATER DENSITY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROGRAM'S SUCCESS. AND SO THAT WAS ONE THING I KIND OF WANTED TO FLAG. BUT I DO THINK IN OUR LAST SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WASN'T RESEARCH THAT SHOWED THAT DECREASING SPEEDS ACTUALLY SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN AND AND AS WAS MENTIONED TODAY THAT THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT DECREASING SPEED LIMITS, SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CRASHES AND THEN ALSO THOSE CRASHES ARE LESS DANGEROUS AS, THE DATA SHOWS US. SO THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY I THINK THE LEGISLATURE A STUDY ON SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS AT THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE US TO KIND OF WATCH HOW THAT GOES BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE IF CITIES CAN ADOPT SPEED SAFETY CAMERAS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT THING FOR US TO WORK ON MAYBE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORING COUNTY TO ENFORCE . I THINK ENFORCEMENT COMES WITH ALL ALL KINDS OF LAYERS OF ISSUES BUT IF IT IS A SPEED SAFETY CAMERA, I MEAN IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IF YOU GET CAUGHT SPEEDING ON CAMERA OR IF YOUR VEHICLE DOES. MY HUSBAND GOT A SPEEDING TICKET ONCE BUT SO YEAH OTHERWISE YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THE RESEARCH AND THE INTENTIONALITY AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ALL OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD. OH, ONE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO SAY TO THE SCHOOL SPEED ZONES VERY SUPPORTIVE OF REDUCING THOSE SPEED LIMITS . I WILL SAY SOME SCHOOLS ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS EVEN 20 SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A LOT AND I KNOW WE WANT TO HAVE CONSISTENCY BUT I THINK ABOUT LIKE MY KIDS GO TO HILLCREST AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP OVER THERE I THINK 15 WOULD BE PLENTY SO WOULD JUST SAY LIKE LET'S KEEP AN OPEN MIND MAYBE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S 15 OR 20 IN THOSE SCHOOL ZONES BUT THAT I WILL I WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. LET'S REMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THEN COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. VERY, VERY QUICKLY. YEAH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK. STAFF DID A GREAT JOB. I THINK I FEEL I FEEL HEARD. I HOPE THAT RESIDENTS DO TOO AND BOTH AS A RESIDENT AND AS A COUNCILMEMBER THE ONLY THING I DIDN'T SEE IN TONIGHT'S PROPOSAL YOU MENTIONED IT AT THE BEGINNING BUT NOT DURING THE PRESENTATION TRAFFIC CALMING EFFORTS AROUND OUR PARKS. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S DEFERRED THAT'S KIND OF BEING MANAGED AS PART OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AS OPPOSED TO A TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. I'M OKAY EITHER WAY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OUR PARKS AND THEN HAVE NOT SOLVED MAKING SURE KIDS CAN GET TO THEM SAFELY. YEAH. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I FULLY SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS REDUCTIONS AND THE TRAFFIC CALMING OPTIONS. I STILL HAVE HESITATIONS WITH THE LOCAL STREETS BUT. WHAT I LIKE AND WHAT WE SAW TONIGHT WAS THAT THERE IS A STUDY IN THOSE OTHER THAT I HAVE MORE CONCERNS ABOUT AND SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO SEE THE LOCAL STREET OPTION AND THE COLLECTOR STREET OPTIONS TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THE COLLECTIVE REDUCTION WOULD BE FOR THAT VERSUS PASSING THAT TOGETHER WITH EVERYTHING AS THE THE MOTION IS LAID OUT AND SO THAT THAT'S WHAT MY HESITATION IS THROUGHOUT I STILL DON'T THINK UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING WITH THESE OTHER STREETS THAT ARE REALLY THE MAIN ISSUES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL ISSUE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH FOR ME TO TO SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW. LET'S REMEMBER THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE I'M KIND OF IMAGINING DOWN THE LINE WHEN WE'VE HAD OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOODS STEP FORWARD THEY IT TURNS OUT THAT WE HAVE DATA TO VERIFY THAT THERE IS THE SAFETY ISSUE. THEY PICK A COUPLE OPTIONS OUT OF THE TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX AND WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE BRIEFING AND SAY LET US WALK YOU THROUGH THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS TO THE END AND SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS STEPPING AND LEADING CHANGE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT THAT GETS TO THE HEART OF A LOT OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'RE DOING IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY AND COULD SERVE AS A PRETTY NEAT CONCRETE EXAMPLE TO GET PEOPLE CURIOUS AND I THINK KIND OF EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE LINE AS WE'RE SEEING THIS PROGRAM OF NEIGHBORS RAISING THEIR HAND TO FLAG ISSUES AS KIND OF THE CANARY IN THE COAL MINE, HOW CAN WE START AGGREGATING SOME OF THAT DATA TO SAY WE'RE SEEING CONSISTENT PATTERNS ABOUT THE TYPE OF STREETS WHERE FOLKS ARE HAVING THESE CONCERNS AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO START WORKING TRAFFIC CALMING TOOLBOX OPTIONS INTO THE REGULAR COURSE OF OUR PMP MOVING FORWARD AND SIMILARLY SITUATED STREETS WHICH I'M SURE STAFF IS ALREADY WAY OUT AHEAD ON AND DOING SOME OF ALREADY BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE FOLKS THAT TH HAVE THEIME TO ADVOCE R THEMSELVE AND PARCIPATE IN A PROCESS LIKE THIS IS INFORMING OUR THINKING ABOUT THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY OPPOSED TO DICTATING OUR PROJECT ORDERING LET'S REMEMBER LOWMAN ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? AND ALL I WILL SAY IS I WAS SURPRISED THAT THIS DIDN'T PASS THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT SHOCKED ME ESPECIALLY WITH THIS BODY, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANTING TO LOOK AT IT SO THAT KIND OF KIND OF CONCERN ME. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR COMMENTS AND I CERTAINLY AM CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE OTHER AREAS. BUT HEY, I MEAN TALK ABOUT A PERFECT POLICY. I'VE GOT NOTHING TO SAY IN COMPLAINING THIS NOTHING. SO I I WILL SAY COUNCILMEMBER TO YOUR CONCERNS I THINK ANYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN PRESENTED TONIGHT PRECLUDES FURTHER WORK HOW TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN ON ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER STREETS AS WELL SOME WE WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE COUNTY ROADS. WE WERE AT THE MERCY OF THE COUNTY ROADS IN A LOT OF WAYS BUT I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT OR ANYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PRECLUDES ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL STUDY, ADDITIONAL WORK, ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE I MEAN FRANKLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BAD OLD TRACK AP ROAD AT RUSH HOUR IS TERRIFYING SOMETIMES SO YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE. SO HMM. MM HMM. SO THINK WE CAN CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, MR. MAYOR QUICK SPECIFIC COMMENT ON THAT. I THINK COUNCILMEMBER THAT'S A GREAT POINT IN THE HIERARCHY SLIDES THAT KIRK PRESENTED I THINK THAT WAS THE GOAL RIGHT WAS TO TO TRY TO CREATE THE THE STRIATIONS SO THAT IT WAS MORE CLEAR TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE ON A COLLECTOR STREET AND THEY'RE NOT ON THE COLLECTOR STREET IS THERE ANY REASON WE CAN'T ALSO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO MOVE ON THAT TODAY SO SO IT MAY BE A12 THING AS OPPOSED TO DELAY AND ONE THING BUT WE COULD STILL PROBABLY GET IT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIMING WAS FOR THAT BUT I, I DON'T THINK I WANT TO LET THAT FALL BEHIND EITHER THINK IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT SO I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW KIRK IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WERE EXPECTING WE WOULD BE GIVING YOU DIRECTION ON TONIGHT AND IT WOULD BE A SHORT TERM THING VERSUS A LOT I DON'T KNOW MR. MAYOR WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ON THAT NEARBY CITY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SO I NEED TO GET A GAUGE ON ON THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO THE LOCAL STREETS THAT FORMS THE BASIS OF WHERE WE GO FROM HERE ON OUR LARGER STREETS. AND SO WITH THAT WITH THE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO GO ON THIS WE WILL BRING THE LARGER STREETS ISSUE THE SPEED LIMITS ON THOSE FORWARD TO YOU NEXT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR SO OR MONTH OR SO FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. SOUNDS REASONABLE. YEAH THAT'S GREAT COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK MY MY PREFERENCE IS I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS TOGETHER WITH THE LARGER SO THAT'S MY MAJOR HESITATION WITH IT. I'M JUST A COUNCILOR. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON OR ARE WE READY TO SEE SOME MOTION OF SOME ACTION ON THIS? I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE THEM THE COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ACCEPT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AS PRESENTED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FIVE ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER IN OPPOSITION THANK YOU GOOD WORK ON THIS AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW WE CONTINUE TO MOVE ON THIS THIS IS THIS IS GOOD STUFF AND IT IT'S OVERDOING AS I KEEP SAYING IT'S ONCE THAT WE KEEP HEARING FROM FOLKS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AND SO WELL DONE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MAYOR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO? THANK YOU. WILL WILL WE HAVE THE CITY STAFF THEN AS WE'VE KIND OF DEFINED HERE THAT PART OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS OUT OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ARE WE GOING TO I THINK THERE'S A BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES UP. CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS INCLUDED IN THAT SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACT AND I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE DEAL HERE. YES. YES EXACTLY. OKAY GREAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE OF IT. THANK COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I THINK MAYOR SO WITH US APPROVING THIS TONIGHT WHEN WITH THE 25 MILE AN HOUR ON LOCAL STREETS GO INTO EFFECT, MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE CERTAIN THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO ONE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM FOR OUR COMMUNITY WE THINK IT WOULD BE CONFUSING IF WE DID 25 MILES AND THEN THREE MONTHS LATER WE SAID HEY AND BY THE WAY ON THE COLLECTORS YOU'RE GOING TO BE DRIVING 30 AND 35. SO WE WANT TO HOLD THEM ALL TOGETHER. SO AS PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM YOU SAW WE HAD DIFFERENT POLICIES AND ORDINANCE CNGES THAT NEED T BE COMING SO YOU'LL GET A PACKET OF ALL OF THEM TOGETHER TO A COUNCILMEMBER AS POINT LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO DRIBBLE IT OUT. WE WANT TO HAVE ONE COMPREHENSIVE THIS IS OUR EDUCATION PROGRAM AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE CHANGING AND IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE LET'S ARBITRARILY SAY MAY 1ST BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THAT SO DON'T LET ME GET TO THAT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT HERE DO WE INCLUDE THE EXTRA ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE I LIKE THAT IDEA I WASN'T SURE IF WE INCLUDED THAT AT ALL OR NOT WHAT THE ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT COUNCILMAN RECORD ASKED FOR I DON'T THINK WE DID I THINK WE IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PLAN I MEAN RE SIGNAGE I DON'T THINK EXTRA SIGNS WAS INCLUDED. IT CERTAINLY COULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT AS WE ABOUT THIS IS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY FUNDING OKAY BUT WE COULD GET THAT SO HOPEFULLY REMEMBER THAT CAUSE I LIKE THAT IDEA I JUST SLIPPED MY MIND IT CAME TO TALKING ABOUT IT. OKAY AGAIN THANK YOU THANKS FOR THE CONVERSATION. OUR FINAL ITEM TONIGHT AS ALWAYS IS OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE AND I KICK US OFF COUNSEL. I'VE GOT ACTUALLY THREE THINGS AND I'LL GO QUICKLY AS I CAN. FIRST OF ALL IN OUR COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION TONIGHT WE HEARD FROM TWO PEOPLE ONE THAT ONCE AGAIN A BRAND NEW PERSON THAT WE HAD NOT HEARD TONIGHT ,MISS DIANA DICHRISTINA TALKING ABOUT THE BRYANT RENOVATION. SHE TALKED PASSIONATELY AND ELOQUENTLY AND INTELLECTUALLY AND VERY CREATIVELY ABOUT WHAT MIGHT NEED TO HAPPEN TO MAKE BRYANT HART THE BRYANT PARK RENOVATION A SO WE THANK HER AND THE OTHER NEIGHBORS FOR BEING THERE THAT THIS AND FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO US AND THE SALLY NESS I ASKED FOR AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION REGARDING HER INTERACTIONS WITH SOME BLOOMINGTON DETECTIVES AND WE WILL MOVE THAT FORWARD THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS AS IT SHOULD BE WITH THE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD IS TO TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER MR. FAROOQI AND I OUR TRIP TO JAPAN AS PART OF THE US MIDWEST U.S. JAPAN ASSOCIATION SUMMIT IN TOKYO I'D JUST AS QUICK RECAP VIA THAT ASSOCIATION THAT GROUP HAS BEEN MEETING FOR 53 YEARS NOW IT'S A GROUP OF TEN UNITED STATES IN THE MIDWEST THAT MEETS AND REGULARLY ANNUALLY WITH THE JAPANESE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC ISSUES TRADE ISSUES, INVESTMENT ISSUES AND SO ON HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL MEETING THOUGHT AND I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR MR.. MR. VERBRUGGE CAN JUMP IN AT ANY TIME AS WELL BUT HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL TO HEAR FROM ALL OF THE GOVERNORS WHO WERE ON BOARD WE WERE THERE WITH GOVERNOR WALZ AND AS WELL AS GOVERNOR WHITMER FROM MICHIGAN THE GOVERNOR OF OF INDIANA, A LONG GOVERNOR IN NEBRASKA. WE HAD A NUMBER OF GOVERNORS FROM THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF GOVERNORS FROM PREFECTURES IN JAPAN TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMIC ISSUES, THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS, THE TRADE THAT HAS GONE ON, THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE KEY TO ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 50 OR SO YEARS MINNESOTA FIRST TOOK PART IN THIS IN 2019 AND WE HEARD FROM GOVERNOR WALZ THAT SINCE THAT TIME TRADE WITH JAPAN IN MINNESOTA HAS INCREASED BY 50%. SO CLEARLY THERE IS THE SUCCESS STORY BEHIND THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET A PIECE OF THAT FOR BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE WE HAVE WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. BUT WE WANT TO LOOK WE'RE LOOKING FOR OBVIOUSLY TO EXPAND THAT IN AS MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE. WE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE LUNCH WITH THE GOVERNOR AND THE COMMISSIONER OF DEED AND A FEW OTHER FOLKS WITH THE THE EXECUTIVES FROM BANKING CORPORATION IN IN IN JAPAN AND THEY CAN ALWAYS PULL THEIR SEMICONDUCTORS AND SO WE HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND IT WAS GOOD AND ENLIGHTENING AND HELPFUL TO TO MEET WITH THE JAPANESE COUNTERPARTS OF THE WE KNOW THE FOLKS HERE PULLED IT VERY WELL. WE TALKED TO THEM ALL THE TIME TO TALK TO THEIR FOLKS IN JAPAN AND TO EXPRESS OUR THANKS FOR THEIR CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN EXCUSE ME SAKE AND I SAY NICKNAME AND SAYING AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH THEIR CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN MINNESOTA AND THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEIR THEIR COMMITMENT TO MINNESOTA AND AND THE EXPANSION THE POLAR FACILITY WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO THE OSAKA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING IMPORTANCE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. WE VISITED OSAKA WORLD EXPO SITE THEY HAD A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON THE NEXT 18 MONTHS BEFORE THE WORLD EXPO IS SCHEDULED OPEN AND THE FINAL VERY ENJOYABLE TIME WAS WE SPENT TIME IN IZUMI CITY WITH THE GROUP THE FOLKS WHO WERE JUST HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE WENT TO SEE THEM AND IT WAS QUITE THE PARTY. LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PEGGY FLANAGAN JOINED US THERE AND WE KNEW WE WERE INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AS WE ROLLED UP AND THERE WAS ABOUT 40 PEOPLE ON THE SIDEWALK CHEERING AND WAVING BANNERS AND WAITING US AND THE TV CAMERAS AND ALL THAT WAS GOING ON AND WE HAD A CHANCE I MADE AN ADDRESS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAD A FORMAL TEA WE HAD A FORMAL CEREMONY. IT WAS IT WAS SOMETHING AND IT WAS IT WAS REALLY WORTHWHILE AND GOOD TO DO AND MORE THAN ANYTHING AS I KEPT STRESSING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS WITH A LOT OF A LOT OF ECONOMIC TALK BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING IT WAS ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND WE SAW THAT WITH EVERY STOP THAT WE MADE AND FOR THAT MATTER WITHIN OUR TRAVEL PARTY AS WELL IT WAS WITH GOVERNOR AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IT WAS WITH THE NEW COMMISSIONER OF DEED MAVERICK. IT WAS WITH THE STAFF FROM DEED WHO WE WORK WITH CONSTANTLY BUT TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT AND TALK WITH THEM FOLKS FROM GREATER MSP FROM MEDICAL ALLEY THERE WAS A MINNESOTA AG GROUP THAT WAS OUT THERE AT THE SAME TIME. SO THIS WHOLE NOTION OF CULTIVATING RELATIONSHIPS WAS WAS FULLY ON DISPLAY BOTH WITH THE FOLKS THAT WE WE KNOW WELL WE GOT TO KNOW BETTER AND TO MAKE NEW CONTACTS OVER IN JAPAN. AND SO IT WAS DEFINITELY A WORTHWHILE TRIP AND DEFINITELY BENEFICIAL AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT MIGHT COME OF IT IN THE FUTURE. SO ANYTHING TO ADD MR. FAROOQUI THAT'S AN EXCELLENT SUMMARY, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD JUST EXTEND MY GRATITUDE ESPECIALLY TO THE FOLKS IN IZUMI CITY MAYOR TSUJI AND MR. COSMO WHO IS THE OF THEIR SISTER CITY EXCHANGE ORGANIZATION. THE HOSPITALITY THAT THEY EXTENDED WAS TREMENDOUS AND THE FACT THAT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA COORDINATED ALMOST EVERY ELEMENT OF THAT VISIT AND HAD LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR FLANAGAN FOR IT WAS WAS TRULY GRATIFYING AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AT THE TRADE OFFICE AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY DO A FANTASTIC JOB COORDINATING A GOVERNOR DELEGATION AND THE AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT DELEGATION AND THEN INVITING ALONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE WERE NOT THE ONLY CITY REPRESENTED THERE. THE NEW BROOKLYN PARK CITY OF STILLWATER ALSO HAVE INTERESTS IN JAPANESE COMPANIES AND TRYING DEVELOP TRADE AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT TO WITH JAPANESE INTERESTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR DISCUSSION IN ZUNI WAS A VERY STRONG INTEREST ON THEIR PART TO DOING SOME SORT OF BUSINESS EXCHANGE, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO DEVELOP SOME SORT OF BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR TWO COMMUNITIES MORE SO THAN EXISTS TODAY AND SO OVER THE NEXT YEAR IT COMMITTED TO MAYOR SUJI AND THE COUNCIL CHAIRPERSON SAKAMOTO THAT WE WOULD WORK ON THAT AS CONTINUE TO TRY TO FOSTER THAT RELATIONSHIP. THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDENDUM. MR. FAROOQI VERY, VERY DONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON OUR ON OUR TRIP? COUNCILMEMBER MULLIN NOT REALLY A COMMENT. JUST JUST WANT TO COMMEND BOTH THE MAYOR THE MANAGER FOR HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT THAT INTERNATIONAL TRIP AND ALSO HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP. WE HAVE THE SISTER ORGANIZATION. I DO KNOW THAT THE MAYOR AND THE SISTER CITY PRESIDENT HAVE VERY MUCH BEEN INTERESTED IN THAT BUSINESS CONNECTION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THAT RELATIONSHIP BLOSSOMS. SO AGAIN, THANK GUYS. I KNOW THAT WAS A LITTLE EXTRA STEP THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE HISTORY WE'VE HAD BETWEEN OUR TWO CITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IN JAPAN AGAIN, THANK YOU. THE FINAL PIECE THAT I HAVE TO ADD THIS THURSDAY EVENING OUR FRIENDS AT OASIS FOR YOUTH ARE HOSTING AN EVENT UP THE A COUNTRY CLUB. IT'S CALLED THE PATHWAY HOME AND IT'S A BIT OF A FUNDRAISER BUT ALSO A BIT OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TO SHARE AN UPDATE ABOUT THEIR NEW PROGRAMING, TO TALK TO FOLKS AND TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THEIR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. AND SO IT'S THURSDAY NIGHT UNITED COUNTRY CLUB 5 TO 730. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING. I'M CERTAINLY BE THERE THINK MAYOR HUDLIN FOR ME DINAH AND MAYOR SEMPLE FROM RICHFIELD ARE GOING TO BE THERE AS WELL. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE ANY ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU THERE AS WELL AND I KNOW THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING WE'RE PAST THE RSVP DEADLINE BUT IF YOU JUST LET ME KNOW I'LL PASS IT ON TO THEM AND OFF WE GO. SO THANKS SO VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I HAVE TWO QUICK THINGS IN SIMILAR VEIN. SO I HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE INVITED TO SPEAK AT THE STATE OF BLACK HEALTH CONFERENCE ALONG WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KARLA HENDERSON AND CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER FAITH JACKSON. SO THE FOCUS OF THE WAS OBVIOUSLY ON HEALTH BUT REALLY SPECIFICALLY INSTITUTIONAL INJUSTICES ECONOMIC BARRIERS AND THEN WELLNESS AND CHRONIC DISEASE DISPARITIES. SO A LOT OF SESSIONS AROUND SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH SO TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, TOBACCO AND SO REALLY REALLY GOOD SESSIONS AND I WILL SAY IT JUST MADE ME VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN BLOOMINGTON AND AND IN MINNESOTA IN GENERAL TALKING WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE REALLY LEADING THE WAY IN MANY WAYS AND SO OUR SESSION WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON TALKING ABOUT THE RACIAL EQUITY WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN BLOOMINGTON FROM THE RACIAL EQUITY BUSINESS PLAN TO DECLARING RACISM A PUBLIC CRISIS AND THEN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE OFFICE OF RACIAL EQUITY AND AND BELONGING AND IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL ATTENDED. WE HAD VERY GOOD FEEDBACK AND PEOPLE REACHING AFTERWARDS WANTING TO TALK MORE SO REALLY REALLY HAPPY AND PROUD OF THE WORK THERE. AND THE SECOND THING SO I'VE JUST BECOME AWARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIGNED FROM OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND IT REMINDED ME WHEN WE DID OUR BOARDS AND WHEN WE REVAMPED THE APPLICATION PROCESS I KNOW I BROUGHT THIS UP I THINK OTHERS PROBABLY TOO AT THE TIME THAT REALLY SHOUL BE NOT ONLY YOU KNOW, MAKING SE THE APICATION PROCESS IS A GOOD ONEND AN EQUITLE ONE BUT ALSOAKING SUREE'RE EVUATING THEXPERIENCEHAT PEOPLE HAVE ONUR BOARDSND COMMISSIS SO THAT WE SO WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE AND AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHY CERTAIN PEOPLE RESIGN. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS BUT IT IS CONCERNING WHEN YOU START TO SEE SOME TRENDS. AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT EVALUATION BUILT IN TO PART OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS AND AND THEN ALSO REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA TO THE EVALUATION TOO SO AND SEE IF THERE'S TRENDS THERE. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SUCCESSFUL PRESENTATION LET'S REMEMBER. WOMAN THANK YOU AND REALLY ENJOYED MY COMMENTS BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL AND I JUST I KNOW I KNOW WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS OF LEAVE THE AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND I JUST THINK THAT ONE OF THE PARAMETERS THAT PAST COUNCILS HAVE TALKED ABOUT CULTURE AND I BELIEVE THAT FOLKS ARE UP HERE IN CARTER A NUMBER OF FOLKS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO HAVE WHENEVER WE'RE SELECTING PEOPLE TRY TO HAVE AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AVAILABLE AND I'VE JUST NOTICED IN A NUMBER OF OUR OUR EXPERIENCES WE HAVEN'T ABLE TO GET AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE AND SO I WONDER IF WE COULD ALONG WITH THAT EVALUATION THAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER JUST BROUGHT FORWARD, THEY WERE REALLY LOOK TO TRY TO FIND WAYS IN WHICH DID WE MAYBE DESIGNATE TIMES IN THE YEAR AND MAKE THAT A PART OF OUR OUR CALENDAR OR SOMETHING FOR IF WE DO HAVE TURNOVER THAT REALLY ALLOWS US TO KIND OF PLAN THAT YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVING A MONDAY SET ASIDE SO THAT WE CAN ALL REALLY THERE BECAUSE I'VE NOTICED THAT WE'VE BEEN MOST SUCCESSFUL WITH KEEPING PEOPLE IN OUR COMMISSIONS WHEN AS MANY VOICES ON THIS COUNCIL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT EVALUATION PROCESS. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US AS WE DO THAT TO NOT YOU KNOW AGAIN NOT NOT IT AWAY I'M SURE WE HAVE A GREAT FOCUS ON UNSUSTAINABILITY BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AS MANY OF THOSE VOICES THAT ARE UP HERE AT THAT TABLE AS. WE DO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER FOLKS AGREE WITH ME ON THAT BUT I HOPE THEY WILL CONSIDER THAT PARDON ME FIGHTING A LITTLE BIT OF MY HARD THROAT HERE. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE'VE GOT QUITE FEW CALLS AT LEAST I HAVE WITH REGARDS TO ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE PART OUR SALES TAX PIECE AROUND THE AROUND THE NINE MILE PARK TYPE PIECE AND I WANTED TO JUST GET A CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO JUST BE SURE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A THERE IS NO PROPOSAL FROM THE STAFF FOR A BIKE TRAIL DOWN IN THAT AREA OR THAT THAT IS STILL AN CONVERSATION. I'M NOT SURE IF CITY MANAGER COULD COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I'VE GOT ILL FOLKS THAT I KNOW WHO I'VE TALKED TO THE DOORS AND I KIND OF THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE CONVINCED THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN A THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PART OF THAT THIS IS NOT A NATURAL RESOURCES PLANT IS REALLY A KIND OF A WAY TO PUT IN A BICYCLE TRAIL. MR. REHBERG AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCI COUNCILMEMBERYMAN, I APPRECIATE RAISING THE ISS. WE'VE HAD SIMILAREEDBACK AS LL. I THINK THE THE FACT IS THAT WITH THAT PROJECT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENTS ABOUT THE DETAILS OF PROJECT IF AND WHEN IT IS APPROVED BY VOTERS IT IS PRIMARILY A NATURAL AND ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION PROJECT ADDITION TO THE FACILITIES IN THE PARTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE AREAS WE DO WANT TO DEFINITELY IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY SO PEOPLE OF ALL ABILITIES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THOSE AREAS AND IS NOT BEING DEVELOPED EXCLUSIVELY OR PRIMARILY AS AS A BIKE PATH. SO I APPRECIATE RAISING THAT. OUR STAFF IS WORKING TO TRY AND PROVIDE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND WILL CONTINUE TO GET THAT OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT THEN WE HAD CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY ABOUT PAWNSHOPS AND I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE DO AROUND THAT IS HAVE A CONVERSATIONS THOSE LICENSES WITHIN THE CITY AS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT HOW NOT WANTING TO HAVE IT IN THE LYNDALE AREA BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE TO RE EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT PAWNSHOPS MAKE A SENSE AND OR WHAT THE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE IN OUR CITY IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN EITHER MOVE THEM AROUND OR ELIMINATE THEM FROM THE CITY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE LYNDALE PIECE AND I DIDN'T WANT I KNOW THAT WASN'T GERMANE TO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING BUT I WANTED TO RAISE IT NOW THEN I'D BE INTERESTED IN HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND THOSE PAWNSHOP LICENSES AND THEN FINALLY I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH SOME OF YOU WON'T BE RETURNING OR WE KNOW ONE PERSON WILL BE RETURNING. I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU AND OR SEAN'S NOT HERE BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE GET TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR HERE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. YOU'RE EACH AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE HAS A FINE POINT OF VIEW AND PERSPECTIVE HAS BROUGHT A LOT TO THIS COMMUNITY I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU IN THE NEXT COUNCIL IF THAT'S WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING BUT JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I'VE ENJOYED BEING HERE WITH YOU AND ARGUING OVER CERTAIN THINGS DISAGREEING WITH YOU AND AGREEING CERTAIN THINGS. IT HAS MADE MY DAYS VERY EXCITING AND I JUST ENJOY THE DIALOG AND JUST I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE DEDICATION THAT YOU PUT INTO GIVING BACK TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ITS RESIDENCES. IT'S THE THE PAY CERTAINLY DOESN'T MATCH THE TYPE OF DEDICATION THAT EACH OF YOU PUT INTO THIS THAT I WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU NO MATTER WHAT FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WASN'T SURE WHETHER OR NOT COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS OR NOT SO I WILL TAKE THEM AND DO THIS COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT AND I HAD THE TO JOIN OUR YANG WHO IS PRESENTING AT THE IFI TWO CONFERENCE IN SEATTLE THIS PAST FRIDAY AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE WELCOME TO BLOOMINGTON DESIGN TEAM PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO TRY TO TO PROVIDE OTHER MEMBERS OF THAT THAT ORGANIZATIONS THE FOLKS THAT WERE ATTENDING THE CONVENTION THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DID, HOW WE DID IT, WHAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM IT, WHAT THE ENGAGEMENT LOOKED LIKE AND. SO IT WAS REALLY GREAT TO OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO THAT WE WERE OBVIOUSLY VIRTUAL BUT IT WAS A IT WAS A NICE WAY FOR US TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, YET ANOTHER INTENTIONAL ACTIVITY WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS DRIVING THE YOU KNOW, BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER PLAN. SO I THINK THAT WAS REALLY COOL AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR SHOWING UP FOR IT BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN ME THAT WOULD BE WEIRD AND PUT OUT DID A GREAT JOB SO YOU KNOW KUDOS TO OUT FOR YOU KNOW I THINK I DON'T SHE WAS THINGS UP FOR ME WHILE ON LEAVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT FROM SO YOU KNOW SHE OBVIOUSLY WORKED VERY VERY HARD TO TO BE A PART OF THAT PRESENTATION SO IT WAS GOOD AND I HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL HAVE SOME RECAP OF IT. YOU KNOW OH AND ALSO I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF DOING THE COUNCILMAN IT THIS WEEK. THANK YOU. GOOD GOOD JOB. YEAH, WELL IF, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WOULD HAVE LISTENED TO YOU TO KNOW THE QUESTIONS ABOUT MY CREEK, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NO JUDGMENT. NO JUDGMENT. IT WAS REALLY FUN. I NEVER HAD NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH A TELEPROMPTER BEFORE. IT WAS MY VERY FIRST TIME SO IN IT'S VERY BIG FONT AND I DIDN'T IT FOR YOU I PROMISE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. IT WAS REALLY COOL AND I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT EMILY TAPLIN AND JUST HOW INCREDIBLY PROFESSIONAL AND COMPETENT SHE IS. IT WAS A REAL PLEASURE. THANKS. WELL THANKS FOR PINCH HITTING ON THAT. DID A NICE JOB SO. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT? IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVED WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO ADJOURN NO FURTHER BUSINESS ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION COMMITTEE ZERO WE ARE ADJOURNED THANKS FOR THE DISCUSSION AND THEN COUNCIL STAFF WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY WHO TUNED IN TONIGHT AND STUCK WITH US THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT REST YOUR WEEK