>>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY IS OCTOBER 4th, AND TODAY IS THE 42nd MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I BELIEVE THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. NO ONE CALLED TO SAY THEY WEREN'T ATTENDING. WITH THAT, AS YOU COME IN, YOUR PRESENCE WILL BE RECORDED. I WOULD LIKE TO START TODAY WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR BALLOON FIESTA WHICH WAS INITIATED ON SATURDAY MORNING IN HOPES WE HAVE A SAFE BALLOON FIESTA THIS YEAR. WITH THAT, IF YOU'LL JUST JOIN ME FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCILOR BASSAN IF SHE WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, PAD -- MADAM PRESIDENT. >>ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I'LL READ IT IN SPANISH. [ RECITING IT THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. I ASK YOU TO BARE WITH ME AS I READ INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. AS NOTES FROM THE PRESS RELEASE ON FRIDAY AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND NOTICED ON THE PUBLISHED COUNSEL AGENDA, THIS MEETING HAS SPECIAL PROCEDURES AND IS BEING HELD VEE AZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. MEMBER OF THOSE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, GOVTV WEBSITE, YOU TUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THESE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMAR PHONES TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON THE LIVE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS WHICH IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY AS WELL AS ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 1 P.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL START WITH THE FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESS. WHICH IS PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WASN'T TO LET THE OTHER COUNCILORS KNOW, I'M SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY IN GETTING YOUR SECTIONS TO READ ON THIS PROCLAMATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO DO IT ON A SHORT NOTICE. I'LL START WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE WAITING ROOM. WE HAVE CHRIS LOVE AND ALEX LUZ. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THE PRONUNCIATION OF YOUR NAME. THEY'RE FROM MANDY'S FARM. WITH THAT, WE'LL GET STARTED READING THE PROCLAMATION. I DO NOT HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME IN TERMS OF THE -- IN TERMS OF WHO WILL READ WHAT SECTION OF IT. I THINK WE'RE STARTING WITH COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WHEREAS IN ACCESS TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES INCREASES FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY, INCLUSION AND MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITY AND WHEREAS RECOGNIZING THE WORKFORCE COMMUNITY AND CULTUAL CONTRIBUTIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IS CONTRIBUTING TO WORK ENVIRONMENTS AND WHEREAS EMBRACING INCLUSIVE HIRING. >>COUN. BASSAN: I HAVE TO GO BACK. WHEREAS EMBRACING HIRING AT MINIMUM WAGE OR HIRE ALLOWS INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY. ALSO REDUCING THE RELIANCE ON GOVERNMENT SUPPORT. AND WHEREAS HIRING INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES IN EFFECTERS TO CREATE INCLUSION WORKFORCE REDUCES TURNOVER AND INCREASES BUSINESS EFFICIENCY AND REVENUE. >>COUN. GIBSON: WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE WORK OF LOCAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT PROVIDERS LIKE MANDY'S FARM WITH FOR DEDICATIONS OF ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES FOR ACHIEVING GOALS OF LIVING AND WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. BORREGO: WHEREAS IT WORKS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALBUQUERQUE BUSINESSES AND DISABLED COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES THAT ARE OFFERED AT NO COST TO INCLUSIVE EMPLOYERS AND WHEREAS THE CITY COUNCIL WORKED WITH MANNY'S FARM IN AUGUST 2020 TO DRAFT AND ENACT R-20-84 THAT DIRECTED THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION, HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO COLLABORATE WITH LOCAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT PROVIDERS TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATING SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AMONG PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND -- >>COUN. PEÑA: WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS COMMITMENTED TO AN INCLUSIVE WORKFORCE THAT REPRESENTS ALL CITIZENS. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE DECLARE OCTOBER 8, 2021 AS INCLUSIVE HIRING DAY. WITH THAT, IF WE CAN BRING IN MR. CHRIS LOVE. I THINK WE'LL START WITH HIM. HI CHRIS. >> HEY, HOW'S IT GOING? >>COUN. PEÑA: GOOD. DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >> OH, YES. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU COUNCILORS DOING THIS. AND ALL THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE ON THE BILLS YOU GUYS PASSED LAST YEAR. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY'S HR DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING AN UPDATE TO YOU GUYS AND WATCHING THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL BE DOING AN INCLUSIVE HIRING DAY THROUGH MANDY'S FARMS SOCIAL MEDIA ON THE 8th, INCLUDING VIDEOS FROM INCLUSIVE EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES AND LOCAL POLITICIANS. THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH. FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, CHRIS. IS ALEX HERE AS WELL? OR IS IT JUST YOU TODAY? >> UNFORTUNATELY IT'S JUST ME TODAY. ALEX IS IN ANOTHER MEETING. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU, CHRIS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU COUNCILORS HAVE QUESTIONS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE CHRIS AND HIS WORK. AS IT STATES IN THE PROCLAMATION IT'S NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH. THE THEME FOR THIS MONTH -- I HAVE A BROTHER WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES. HE IS UTILIZING SUPPORTIVE SERVICES AND EMBARKING ON HIS 20th YEAR OF WORKING AT WAL-MART. HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT AND SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED THROUGH AGENCIES LIKE MANDY'S FARM. HE'S GETTING READY, I'M CONVINCING HIM TO RETIRE. HE'S SAYING I DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU, CHRIS? WE LOOK FORWARD TO AN UPDATE. WHEN WE BRING PEOPLE AND INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NEED AND VOIDS WE'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHETHER IT'S PROCESSES, THERE'S A VALUE ADDED AND IT'S GOING TO BE VALUE ADDED TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS AFTERNOON. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR RAISING OUR AWARENESS ON MANDY'S FARM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS WISH TO SPEAK? IT DOESN'T APPEAR SO. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON COUNCILORS. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM APD STAFFING. ACTING COMMANDER ROGER LEGENDER. REGARDING APD STAFFING. I HOPE I SAID YOUR NAME PROPERLY. THERE YOU ARE. IF YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON YOUR NAME PLEASE. >> HELLO, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M THE ACTING COMMANDER WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M OVERSEEING THE SPECIAL SERVICES DIVISION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR. GO AHEAD. >> ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO START OFF THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE AS OF THE 27th OF SEPTEMBER. WE DO UPDATE OUR NUMBERS WEEKLY. THERE IS -- WE HAVE PEOPLE SEPARATING FROM OUR DEPARTMENT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NORMAL. IT DOES CHANGE ON A WEEKLY BASIS. IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE IT SHOWS THE NUMBERS AS A SWORN OFFICERS. WE DO NOT TRACK CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS REVIEW. WE HAVE 900 OFFICERS. THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF ONE CHIEF, ONE SUPERINTENDENT, ONE DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT, FIVE DEPUTY CHIEFS, ONE CHIEF OF STAFF, 13 COMMANDERS. SIX DEPUTY CHANDERS, 46 LIEUTENANTS, 114 SERGEANTS. AND 3 SWORN CFAs ON. OCTOBER 22nd WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL 47 PATROLMAN ADDED TO THE RANKS. IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IT'S GOING TO BE A BREAKDOWN OF A PIE CHART OF WHERE PERSONNEL ARE ASSIGNED. WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY BUREAU WHICH ENCOMPASSES THREE INDIVIDUALS. YOU HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF MANDER. YOU HAVE FIELD SERVICES BUREAU THAT IS 465 OF PERSONNEL. INVESTIGATIVE BUREAU AT 156. MANAGEMENT AND SERVICES SUPPORT AT 41. OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT HAS 102 AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS BUREAU HAS 116. A MAJORITY OF OUR OFFICERERIZE GOING TO BE LOCATED IN FIELD SERVICES BUREAU. WE HAVE 53%. NEXT SLIDE. FIELD SERVICES BUREAU WE WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN TO EACH AREA COMMAND. AS YOU CAN SEE THE AREA COMMAND WHEN WE LOOK AT OFFICERS WE'RE LOOKING AT CALL FOR SERVICE AND THE CRITICAL TYPE INCIDENT CALLS THAT ARE GOING TO GENERATE A NEED AND THE MOST AMOUNT OF OFFICERS. IN THAT WE HAVE OUR MOST OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE SOUTHEAST AND NORTHEAST AREA COMMAND. IN THE 94TH -- NORTHEAST WE HAVE 85. IN THE VALLEY AREA COMMAND WE HAVE 82. SOUTHWEST WE HAVE 66. NORTHWEST 63, FOOTHILLS 74. THAT IS NOT A TOTAL REPRESENTATION OF ALL THE OFFICERS THAT COULD BE THERE. THERE ARE SOME VACANCIES WITHIN THE FIELD. BASED ON SEPARATION. WITH THEM COMPLETELY FULL, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST AS BEING MORE EQUAL IN NUMBERS. WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE INVESTIGATIVE BUREAU. WITH THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION WITH 71 AND INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES DIVISION AT 85. AND THAT'S GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR OUR DETECTIVES. NEXT SLIDE. TAKE A LOOK AT THE OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT THAT HAS ACADEMY, CRISIS INTERVENTION, IA PROFESSIONAL STANDERS, AND INTEGRITY DIVISION. THE ACADEMY HAS 33 PERSONNEL. CRISIS INTERVENTION HAS 21. IA FORCE HAS 36. IA PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS HAS 11 AND THE PROFESSIONAL INTEGRITY DIVISION HAS ONE COMMANDER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS BUREAU IS GOING TO CONSISTENT OF THE METRO TRAFFIC DIVISION, SPECIAL OPERATION AND SPECIAL SERVICES. THE METRO TRAFFIC DIVISION HAS 37 SWORN OFFICERS. THE SPECIAL OPERATIONS DIVISION HAS 30 AND SPECIAL SERVICES DIVISION HAS 49. NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WITH THE SPECIAL SERVICES DIVISION THAT ENCOMPASSES OPERATIONS REVIEW. WHEN WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON MILITARY ORDERS, EXTENDED FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME OR ANY SORT OF ISSUES WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF THE FIELD OROUT OF SERVICES FOR AN EXTENDED UPT OF TIME THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO OPERATIONS REVIEW. THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS WITHIN SPECIAL SERVICES. THEY'RE PLACEHOLDERS. MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT SERVICES BUREAU ISN'T GOING TO BE INCLUDED. THERE'S SAFETY SENSITIVE POSITIONS WITHIN THE BUREAU THAT WE'RE RESTRICTED FROM SPEAKING ABOUT REGARD FEDERAL RULES AND WHATNOT. NEXT SLIDE. ONE OF THE FACTS WITH APD, IT'S NOT JUST RECRUITING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE WE BRING IN, BUT ALSO HOW MANY SEPARATIONS WE SEE BY MONTH. THIS CHART WILL SHOW THAT. THIS GOES BACK TO JUNE OF 2019 UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF 2021. AND WE SAW A PRETTY LARGE UPTICK, IF WE LOOK AT JUNE OF 2021 TO NOW. WE'RE SEEING THE AMOUNT OF RETIREMENTS GO UP. WE'RE SEEING ON AVERAGE ABOUT 12 TO 13 RETIREMENTS ALONE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE COLUMN NEXT TO THE RETIREMENT, THAT'S REZ -- RESIGNATION. WE'RE SEEING ON AVERAGE OF ABOUT SIX TO SEVENSEVEN RESIGNATIONS MONTH. TERMINATION, THEY'RE UP AND DOWN. BUT WE'RE SITTING AT SIX FOR THE YEAR NOW. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS GOING TO SHOW TOTAL SEPARATIONS BY MONTH AND THE TREND THAT WE'RE SEEING. IT ECHOS THE LAST CHART I HAD SHOWN. WE SEEN AN UPTICK IN THE SEPARATION AS OF MAY, JUNE OF THIS YEAR. NEXT SLIDE. TOTAL SEPARATIONS BY YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT 2020, WE HAD 83. IN YEARS PAST HISTORY THIS IS PRETTY COMMON TO SEE ANYWHERE FROM 75 TO 85 SEPARATIONS IN A YEAR. THIS WAS AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020 TO DECEMBER 1, 2020. WE HAD 48 RETIRED OFFICERS AND 25 RESIGNATIONS AND TEN TERMINATIONS. THIS YEAR AT 118 AS OF THE 27th OF SEPTEMBER. 70 RETIRES, NINE WERE REHIRES THAT RETIRED. A FEW YEARS BACK WE HAD A PAY INCREASE WHICH DREW SEVERAL OFFICERS TO COME BACK TO THE PROFESSION. THEY SUSPENDED RETIREMENT. NINE OF THEM HAVE RETIRED NOW. THEY HIT THEIR TOP THREE. WE'VE ALSO SEEN 42 RESIGNATIONS. THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT HIRE THAN LAST YEAR. WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM WORKING IN OPERATIONS REVIEW WE OFTEN SEE THEM AS ONE OF THE LAST STEPS BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE DEPARTMENT TO ACTUALLY SEPARATE, A LOT OF THEM MOVE OUT OF STATE. OTHER JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND FOR BETTER PAY, CLOSER TO FAMILY. WE HEAR A LOT OF THEM ARE LEAVING THE PROFESSION ALL TOGETHER WHICH IS ABNORMAL. WE HAVE SIX TERMINATIONS YEAR TO DATE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS FAR AS BRING PEOPLE INTO THE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING 124th ACADEMY. AS OF THIS PAST WEEKEND WE HAVE 47 CADETS. THEY'LL COME TO GRADUATE OCTOBER 22nd. WE WILL BE INCLUDING THEM. CNM CLASS SIX HAS 16 CADETS. THEY START WITH ATD, THEIR SESSION WITH APD DECEMBER 17th. THE 27th LATERAL CLASS IS FILLING. CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE IN BACKGROUND AND 11 INTERESTED APPLICANTS. WE PUSH THOSE MEASURES THROUGH THE BILLBOARDS AND THROUGH INTERNET AS FAR AS USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND GO TO EVENTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET ADDITIONAL LATERALS INTO THE DEPARTMENT. THE 125th ACADEMY WE'RE PUSHING A GOAL OF 70 CADETS. THIS CLASS IS SUPPOSED TO START DECEMBER 2021. CURRENTLY, WE'RE AT 27 SEATED, 34 IN BACKGROUNDS, AND 239 INTERESTED APPLICANTS. AS OF THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE HAVE MORE SEATED AT THIS POINT. WE STILL HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 34 IN BACKGROUND. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 50 TO 60 TO BE ABLE TO SEAT BY DECEMBER. BASED ON THE TIMELINES WE HAVE TO DO WITH BPS. OUR 126th ACADEMY WE'RE SETTING GOALS OF 70 CADETS, THAT'S BEGINNING MAY OF 2022. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I DON'T WANT TO FORGET OUR POLICE SERVICE AIDS. THAT IS A LARGE FUNNEL FOR OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS TO BECOME CADETS. WE LIKE TO GET THEM IN THE DOOR WHEN THEY'RE 18 OR 19 YEARS OLD AND HOPEFULLY THEY BECOME OFFICERS. WE CURRENTLY SIT AT 41 PSA. HOWEVER, THE 39th CLASS IS NOT SOLO. THEY'RE ON THE JOB TRAINING. WITH OUR FIELD TRAINING PSA. WE HAVE 17 OF THEM. AS A TOTAL WE HAVE 41. WE DO WANT TO GET ANOTHER CLASS GOING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS SOON AS DECEMBER. AS SOON AS WE GET 20 POLICE SERVICE AID APPLICANTS THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SEATED WE WILL BEGIN THAT CLASS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE IN BACKGROUNDS AND 18 INTERESTED APPLICANTS. THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I'M GOING TO OPEN TO QUESTIONS. I SEE COUNCILOR GIBSON'S HAND. AND I DON'T HAVE THE SCREEN -- COUNCILOR GIBSON, GO AHEAD WHILE I WORK ON MY TECHNICAL ISSUE. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THIS UPDATE. IT'S REAL CLEAR AND VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I APPRECIATE THAT. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE LATERAL, YOU SAID THERE ARE 20 CADETS IN A LATERAL CLASS. WHEN I THINK OF LATERAL, I THINK OF ALREADY SWORN OFFICERS MOVING IN FROM ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. IS THAT CORRECT DEFINITION OF LATERAL AND THE WAY WE USE IT IN THIS REPORT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, YOU ARE CORRECT. WE USE CADETS FOR THE NEW HIRES THAT COME IN. HOWEVER LATERALS ARE SWORN. MY PRESENTATION DOES SHOW 20 CADETS THAT SHOULD BE 20 LATERALS. THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SWORN ALREADY AND ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH APD. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. WHERE DID THESE PEOPLE COME FROM? >> OUR LATERALS COME FROM DIFFERENT AREAS. >>COUN. GIBSON: WERE THEY IN-STATE OR OUT OF STATE? >> QUITE A BIT COME FROM IN-STATE. OUR LAST ONE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD COME FROM STATE POLICE AND WHATNOT. WE'RE LOOKING AT LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMIES WITHIN THE REGION. THAT'S WHERE THE GOOGLE ADS ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME TO APD. LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN COME INTO OUR DEPARTMENT AS LATERALS AND OFTEN THEY'RE SELF-SPONSORED AND THEY GO TEW LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY. THAT'S ONE OF THE RECRUITING EFFORTS WE GIVE FORTH IN TRYING TO GET LATERALS INVOLVED. RIGHT NOW, THE ONES THAT WE ARE SEEING THEY TEND TO COME FROM IN THE STATE. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM GLAD THAT YOUR EXPANDING YOUR METHODOLOGIES IN FINDING NEW CADETS OR LATERALS. I'M GLAD FOR THAT. I THINK THE CITY SHOULD USE THE SAME TECHNIQUES THAT OTHER LARGE EMPLOYERS USE. GO TO THE COLLEGES AND THE UNIVERSITIES. IT ONLY MAKES SENSE PARTICULARLY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THERE'S A UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN STUDY THAT CLEARLY SHOWS EVEN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COLLEGE EDUCATION THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN USE OF FORCE AND PROBLEMS OF THAT NATURE. I'M GLAD THAT THE YOU ALL ARE DO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I DO HAVE MY RAISE HAND FEATURE WORKING NOW. I WILL GO IN ORDER OF THE INDIVIDUALS. I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS PRESENTATION, I FEEL IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR QUITE A WHILE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR. I THINK IT ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON DEPARTMENTS AND FIELD SERVICES BUREAU AND EVERYTHING. A COUPLE QUESTIONS, HOW WILL THIS -- HOW IS APD EXPECTING THIS TO CHANGE ESPECIALLY WITH THE AREA COMMAND BREAKDOWNS BECAUSE OF THE LATEST BID? CAN I ASK THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN ABSOLUTELY. WE BID ONCE A YEAR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGED THIS PAST YEAR IS WE WENT TO A COMBINATION OF EIGHT-HOUR SHIFT AND TEN-HOUR SHIFTS. DAY SHIFT IS COMPRISED OF TWO EIGHT-HOUR UNITS AND ONE 10 HOUR AND GRAVEYARDS ARE 10 HOUR SHIFTS. WE DID THAT IN ORDER BASED ON THE LAST STAFFING REPORT THAT CAME OUT WITH CITY COUNCIL STUDIES. I THINK THAT'S WAS DECEMBER 2020. IT WAS RECOMMENDED EIGHT WOULD GIVE THUS MOST AMOUNT OF COVERAGE. WE WENT TO THE COMBINATION OF 10S BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE OVERLAP TIME WAS VERY IMPORTANT. THERE IS ANOTHER STAFFING STUDY THAT IS GOING ON BASED ON THE LAST ONE BEING OUTDATED. I BELIEVE THAT WILL PROVIDE US WITH MUCH MORE ANSWERS AS TO THE ALLOCATIONS OF RESOURCES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. CAN WE EXPECT TO -- I MEAN FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST FOR THE OFFICERS THAT ARE AT THOSE COMMANDS. IS IT ANTICIPATED THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE DRASTICALLY? >> WITHOUT HAVING DONE THE ANALYSIS BUT HAVING BEEN ON THE DEPARTMENT FOR 17 YEARS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHEAST HAVE THE HIGHEST CALL VOLUME. I DON'T ANTICIPATE TO SEE MUCH CHANGE. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE STAFFING REPORT AND THE ANALYSIS THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW. >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE MORE QUESTION. DO WE KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY OFFICERS ARE ON THE EXTENDED LEAVE OR MILITARY LEAVE? HOW MANY ARE WE MISSING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COME TO APD AND WORK RIGHT NOW? >> I CAN ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER. WE'RE ABLE TO, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, IF WE CAN CIRCLE BAB AROUND I CAN HAVE THAT ANSWER STARTLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR SENA. IN THE MEANTIME, I WOULD ASK THE COMMANDER TO FORWARD THAT STUDY TO ALL THE COUNCILORS SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT IN THEIR INBOX. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COMMANDER, I GUESS COUNCILOR BASSAN TOUCHED ON THIS. I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE THAT SAYS DIVISIONAL STAFFING BY BUREAU. WHAT BID WAS THAT? WAS THIS THE MOST RECENT BID OR WAS THIS A PREVIOUS BID? >> CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE? >>COUN. SENA: THE SLIDE THAT STATES DIVISIONAL STAFFING BY BUREAU, PARTICULARLY THE SKILLED SERVICE BUREAU, WHAT BID WAS THAT? ALSO, DOES THIS INCLUDE SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS WITHIN THE FIELD SERVICE? >> YES. THIS IS THE CURRENT BID. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SUPERVISION AS WELL. >>COUN. SENA: OKAY. INTERESTING. YOU HAD TOUCHED ON, IN TERMS OF THE STAFFING STUDY, I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO AREA COMMANDS IN MY DISTRICT. IN THE NORTHWEST I KNOW YOU STATED IT'S BASED OFF OF CALL VOLUME. IS THAT THE LARGEST AREA COMMAND FOR THE CITY? >> I BELIEVE NORTHWEST IS THE LARGEST AREA COMMAND FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. SENA: YOU STATED PREVIOUSLY THAT THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS REALLY PER TAINS TO THE CALL VOLUME? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. SENA: I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A LOT OF CALLS. IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHY, IF AN IMMEDIATE CALLS OCCURS -- WE HAVE A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE AND I'M TRYING TO EQUATE FOR THE SUPERVISOR ROLES AS WELL, THAT'S QUITE A LOW NUMBER FOR THE LARGEST GEOGRAPHY, IN MY VIEW. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT. YOU SAID THERE'S ANOTHER STUDY BEING CONDUCTED THAT'S UPDATED. I WOULD REALLY STRESS THAT ALSO BE FACTORED IN. OFFICERS THAT ARE HAVING TO RESPOND TO THE WEST SIDE EMERGENCY HOUSING CENTER IS PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE DISTRICT. IT WOULD TAKE A FEW OFFICERS OUT THERE AND IF ANOTHER CALL CAME OUT TO SAY COORS AND OURAY, THAT'S A LOT OF TIME TO TRAVEL. I HOPE IT'S IN CONSIDERATION THAT IT'S LARGE GEOGRAPHY THAT IS EXTENDS OTHER OFFICERS. I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. I'M SURE I'LL WAIT FOR OTHER COUNCILORS AS THEY ASK THEIR QUESTIONS AS WELL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WE WILL MOVE TO COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR PEÑA ALSO HAS HER HAND UP. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. COMMANDER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THIS. I KNOW AND I APPRECIATE YOU. I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT STAFFING OFFLINE. I JUST WANTED TO PIVOT FROM CURRENT STAFFING TO FUTURE STAFFING. I WAS TRYING TO CATCH THESE IN MY NOTES. CORRECT ME IF I DIDN'T CATCH IT. I THINK YOU DEMONSTRATED THAT WE HAVE NORTH OF 110 OR 118 RETIREMENTS FOR THE YEAR OR TERMINATIONS AND DEPARTURES. HOW MANY CADETS DO WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE REPLACEMENT SNZ --? >> IN TAKING A LOOK IN WHAT WE HAVE NOW, WE HAVE 41 THAT HAD GRADUATED EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE HAVE PICKED UP BETWEEN DEPUTY COMMANDER TYPE RANKS AN ADDITIONAL SIX. AND WE HAVE ON OCTOBER 22nd HAVE 47 GRADUATING. THAT WILL PUT US AT 98. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, COMMANDER. WHAT I WANTED TO POINT IS ASSUMER THERE WON'T BE RETIREMENTS OR TERMINATIONS BY THE END OF THE YEAR, I REALIZE THOSE SCHEDULES ARE PRETTY EASY TO PREDICT AT THIS POINT, IT CONCERNS THAT WE'VE LOST MORE OR PLANNING TO LOSE THAN WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE. I THINK THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS WE NEED MORE OFFICERS. I WANT TO COMMEND THE TEAM AT THE ACADEMY AND RECRUITING TO FILL THAT CLASS AND GET THOSE FOLKS IS NO SMALL ACCOMPLISHMENT. I CAME TO NEW MEXICO AS A LATERAL POLICE OFFICER AND I REMEMBER THE PAPERWORK FOR THAT. NOT TO MENTION WHAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE REQUIRES. KUDOS TO THAT. WHAT I'M SEEING IS WE'RE KEEPING THE STATUS QUO LEVEL OF STAFFING FOR ANOTHER YEAR. GIVEN THE NUMBER OF RETIREMENTS WHICH IS DOUBLE. IS THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION? OR IS THERE SOME FACTOR WE'RE MISSING? >> BASED ON WHAT I HAVE, WE HAVE MORE SEPARATIONS THAN WE HAVE COMING IN. WE HAVE CONTINUED SWITCHING WITH CADET CLASSES. WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE 70s NUMBERS WHEN WE HAVE A CADET CLASS. HOPEFULLY WITH TRYING TO PROVIDE AS MUCH AS WE CAN AS A DEPARTMENT INTEREST FOR THOSE LATERALS. WE'RE HOPING IT MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE. IT'S AN ONGOING EFFORT, IT'S A NONSTOP EFFORT. FOR POLICE WORK IN GENERAL, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT IS UNIQUE TO APD. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING STATE-WIDE. WE HAVE LESS SWORN OFFICERS IN NEW MEXICO THAN YEARS PAST. IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW TO NEW MEXICO. IT'S NOT ANYTHING NEW TO THE NATION. WE STILL -- AS A RECRUITING UNIT WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS WE CAN GET INTERESTED IN AS FAR AS LATERALS AND WHATNOT AND TRYING TO GET THAT INTEREST INTO THE DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: COMMANDER, THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE. I'M GOING TO ASK MR. PADILLA FOR A FOLLOW-UP. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN THE BUDGET TWO YEARS AGO AND RENEWED IT LAST YEAR WAS $500,000 FOR HARD TO RECRUIT POSITIONS. I KNOW IT INCLUDED EXTRA BONUSES AND COMMERCIALS AND ADVERTISING. I WONDER IF YOU CAN HELP US FROM THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE GET DATA ON WHETHER THAT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE OR NOT. AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE AS WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND LOOK AT THE BUDGET WE NEED A SERIOUS LOOK AT STRATEGIC WAYS WE CAN SUPPORT AND ENHANCE RECRUITING EFFORTS. AS IT STANDS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER OFFICERS ON THE STREET NEXT YEAR THAN WE DO TODAY. THAT REALLY CONCERNS US ALL. I KNOW IT DOES THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT FOR MAKING TIME FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION. WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. PADILLA AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SIMILAR QUESTIONS AROUND WHAT EVERYONE IS ASKING. I DON'T SEE THE CHIEF, BUT THERE MIGHT BE FOLKS FROM APD WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE EARLY ON WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECRUITMENT WAS SOME OF THE BARRIERS TO BECOMING AN OFFICER, ESPECIALLY BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR OR YOUTH IN GENERAL ABOUT OUR STATE STATUTE WHERE IT HAD MARIJUANA WAS ONE OF THE REASONS IF YOU HAD SMOKED MARIJUANA YOU ACTUALLY COULDN'T BECOME AN OFFICER. IT'S PART OF THE WHOLE RECRUITMENT PROCESS. I'M JUST WONDERING, DID THAT STATUTE GO AWAY WITH THE LEGALIZATION? OR IS IT STILL THERE? IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO APPROACH SANTA FE? >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING INTO. I UNDERSTAND THAT SANTA FE FOR THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT THEY HAVE LIMITED THE AMOUNT OF TIME SOMEONE HAS SMOKED MARIJUANA TO THE TIME THEY'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CHIEF'S STANCE IS IN ON THAT ROLE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS IS BECOMING A HUGE BARRIER. I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE. I KNOW THERE'S A TASK FORCE IN APD THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE STATE TO LOOK AT DOING AWAY WITH THIS. THIS IS PRIOR TO THE LEGALIZATION. IT CONCERNS THAT WE'RE LEGALIZING MARIJUANA AND WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT CAN'T BECOME OFFICERS IF THEY SMOKED WEED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. I THINK IT'S A PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT OFF THE BOOKS. OF COURSE THOSE ARE THINGS PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE HAD, I'VE HAD FRIEND AND FAMILY WHO TRIED TO GET IN AND THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMES UP, AND I KNOW A LOT OF YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE TRIED TO GET INTO APD AND WERE UNSUCCESSFUL AND THEY SOUGHT OUT OTHER PATHS JUST BECAUSE OF THIS. TODAY WE'RE LEGALIZING IT. TO ME, IT IS JUST TRAGIC. THE OTHER THING IS OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE, I THINK THIS IS AN ANTIQUATED METHOD OF HOW WE DO THIS PROCESS. I KNOW COUNCILOR SENA WAS BEWILDERED BY IT, I KNOW THAT OFFICERS AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OFFICERS ARE DISTRIBUTED BASED ON CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND I WAS TOLD BEFORE THIS WAS IN MY COMMUNITY ADVOCACY DAYS, SOME AREAS TEND TO CALL, LIKE THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS WILL CALL, SOUTHEAST, THERE'S MORE OFFICERS BECAUSE OF A WHOLE VARIETY OF STUFF. SOMETIMES MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES ARE USED TO SOME OF THESE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY SO THEY DON'T CALL. I GET TONS OF CONSTITUENT CALLS AND THEY HEARD GUNSHOTS, AND I SAY DID YOU CALL 911 OR 242-COPS AND THEY TELL ME NO. I WISH WE COULD LOOK AT ADDITIONAL WAYS ON HOW WE DISTRIBUTE OFFICERS TO AREAS. ESPECIALLY IN MORE MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IT'S CORRECT? YOU STILL USE SAME METHOD? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LOVE FOR THAT TO BE LOOKED AT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO RECRUITMENT. I THINK WHEN WE'RE DOING POLICE THINGS AND IN FEAR OF LOSING POLICE OFFICERS AND WE GIVE INCENTIVES AND IT KEEPS THEM A WHILE. INVESTMENT IN THE FRONT END IS THE WAY WE NEED TO GO. WE NEED TO START WITH ELIMINATING STATE STATUTES THAT ARE BARRIERS FOR BECOMING AN OFFICER. AND LASTLY, THE SOUTHWEST AREA, I'M TRYING TO DO THE MATH LIKE COUNCILOR DAVIS AND I GOT LOST TOO. 66 OFFICERS, WHICH IS WAY TOO LITTLE FOR THE LEVEL OF OFFICERS I FEEL WE NEED IN THE AREA, THE WAY I DID THE MATH IS I DID TIMES SEVEN THERE'S 168 HOURS IN ONE WEEK'S TIME. IN A 10-HOUR SHIFT, DIVIDE THAT BY TEN HOURS, THERE'S 17 SHIFTS. 17 SHIFTS, THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE DAY. I'M LOOKING AT DIVIDED BY THE OFFICERS AS FOUR OFFICERS ON ANY GIVEN SHIFT. WONDERING DOES THAT INCLUDE THOSE SAME FOUR OFFICERS, IS SOMEONE IS ON VACATION, JURY DUTY, ILL, IT SEEMS FOUR OFFICERS IS, BOY, AND SIZE WISE, DISTRICT THREE BIGGER OR DARN CLOSE TO HER SIZE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, JUST TO ADVISE, IN THE SOUTHWEST AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER AREA COMMAND THERE'S ACTUALLY -- THERE'S OVERLAP. FOR ANY GIVEN DAY, ESPECIALLY SLOWER DAYS, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAYS THERE'S NEVER A STAND ALONE TEAM. OUR TEAMS ARE FIVE OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT PER TEAM. SOME TEAMS ON SWING SHIFT HAVE SIX OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT. THERE'S OVERLAP ON BUSY DAYS, FRIDAY SATURDAY SUNDAYS. THERE'S ALWAYS OVERLAP. YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 TO 13 OFFICERS IN ANY GIVEN AREA AT THAT TIME. THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO THE EIGHTS AND TENS SO WE CAN HAVE THE OVERLAP TIME SO WE WEREN'T BACK TO BACK. AT ANY GIVEN TIME MINIMAL YOU HAVE 10 TO 13 OFFICERS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THIS CHART THAT APD GAVE US, IT SHOWS THE OVERLAP. THAT'S HOUR BY HOUR EACH DAY. I CAN HAVE THEM REDO THAT SO YOU CAN GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW STAFFING CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF THE THE OVERLAP. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THE STATE STATUTE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AS A PRIORITY FOR SANTA FE AND APD AND PERHAPS COUNCIL. I WOULD LOVE TO -- SOUTHWEST OR WHATEVER OTHER COUNCILORS, I WOULD LOVE TO REALLY GET A BREAKDOWN OF MY -- NOT MY, NEVER MY, THE DISTRICT I SERVE BREAKDOWN OF OFFICERS. EVEN FIVE ON ONE BEAT WITH SUCH A LARGE DISTRICT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO LOOK AT REDISTRIBUTION OF OFFICERS AND WHERE THEY'RE AT. ANYWAY, I WILL STOP THERE. IF NOT, I'LL GO ON AND ON. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'LL GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT TO LEGAL TO HAVE THEM DO RESEARCH ON THE STATED LAW. WE'LL HAVE APD PUT TOGETHER THE CHART SO YOU SEE HOUR BY HOUR. >>COUN. PEÑA: COOL, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I'M LOOKING AT COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR SENA, WOULD YOU MIND IF COUNCILOR BENTON WENT FIRST BECAUSE HE HASN'T SPOKEN AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU? THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. JUST SOME QUICK QUESTIONS. YOU CAN KEEP THEM SHORT IF YOU LIKE, NO PROBLEM. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE CLASS DROPOUT RATE FROM OUR CADET CLASSES INCLUDING CNM? OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR WHATEVER. ONCE THEY'RE ACCEPTED. >> I'M LOOKING THAT UPRIGHT -- UP RIGHT NOW. I CAN ANSWER THAT. WE OFTEN SEE ABOUT A 15% ATTRITION RATE OUT OF THE ACADEMY CLASSES. >>COUN. BENTON: DOES THAT INCLUDE CNM? >> THAT DOES INCLUDE CNM, SIR. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. >> JUST FOR REFERENCE, WE TRY TO GET 25 PEOPLE INTO THE CNM CLASS. RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING WE SEE CHALLENGES OF BACKGROUNDS BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN TIMELINES WE MUST FACE WHERE THE MEDICAL HAS TO BE DONE 30 DAYS BEFORE AN ACADEMY BEGINS. WE ACTUALLY HAD 25 PEOPLE SEATED FOR CNM. AFTER THEY WENT THROUGH MEDICAL AND HAD TO DO PHYSICAL TEST OUT, WE DROPPED TO 19 OR 18. WE LOST ONE DURING THIS TIME. WE'RE SITTING AT 17. ONE OF THOSE -- YEAH. WE'RE 17 BUT WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE FALL OUT IN THE FINAL STEPS OF THE BACKGROUND PROCESS AND WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. HOW DOES IT WORK, WHEN THE BIDS GO OUT, DO THEY BID FOR THE TRAFFIC UNIT? >> NO, SIR, THEY PUT OUT AN OPENING AND THE OFFICERS INTERESTED CAN TEST FOR THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: I THOUGHT I HEARD THEY WERE GOING TO TEST, EVENTUALLY, HAD A TEST GOAL FOR ALL OFFICERS. WAS THAT AN URBAN MYTH? >> THAT'S NOT ANYTHING I'M FAMILIAR WITH, SIR. >>COUN. BENTON: FINE. THE VALLEY COMMAND'S NUMBERS INCLUDE THE DOWNTOWN PUBLIC SAFETY DISTRICT? >> ACTUALLY, THEY DO NOT, SIR. THE VALLEY DOES INCLUDE THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THEY DON'T INCLUDE PRT OFFICERS. WE HAVE 46 DESIGNATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THERE'S ACTUALLY ADDITIONAL OFFICERS IN EACH AREA COMMAND. WHEN I DID THE PRESENTATION, I DID STRICTLY THOSE OFFICERS TAKING CALLS FOR SERVICE. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVED EVERYBODY WAS ASKING TO SEE. WE HAVE ADDITIONAL 46PR TRBS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT. PRT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THEY'RE NOT ARRESTING SOMEBODY AT THAT TIME. THEY ARE REALLY LOOKING INTO THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED INTO, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE PROACTIVE RESPONSE TEAM. YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE TEAMS IN EVERY AREA COMMAND. THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITIES, BUSINESSES WITHIN EACH AREA AND THEY TRY TO TACKLE THE LONG-TERM PROBLEMS WHICH ULTIMATELY WILL DRIVE DOWN CALLS FOR SERVICES, HOPEFULLY, THAT WAY OUR FIELD OFFICERS TAKING CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE ABLE TO HAVE BETTER RESPONSE TIMES AND ARE ABLE TO BE MORE AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS. >>COUN. BENTON: NOT TO DISPARAGE THE ISSUE OF GEOGRAPHIC LACK OF DENSITY. PLACES WITH HIGH DENSITY AND OLDER STREET GRIDS ALSO PRESENT UNIQUE CHALLENGES. IF WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING INTO THAT GAME, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO START DOING ARRHYTH - ARRHYTH ON LANGUAGE. >>COUN. SENA: OVERALL, WHETHER IT'S GEOGRAPHY OR CALLS, WE NEED MORE CALLS. I THINK EACH COUNCILOR ALLUDED TO THIS, AND WHY I HAD TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. WE TALK ABOUT THOSE RETIRING AND REALLY A LOT OF THOSE OFFICERS HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE THAT WE NEED TO RETAIN FOR SOME OF THE YOUNGER OFFICERS AND NEWER OFFICERS. WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR RETENTION AND ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR MORE INCLUSIVE HIRING? IT WAS TOUCHED UPON EARLIER BY COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE ALSO JUST READ THE PROCLAMATION OF MORE INCLUSIVE HIRING AS WELL. I KNOW WITHIN OEI THEY'RE DOING A STUDY AS TO THOSE THAT DIDN'T ACCEPT THEIR OFFICER IN THE END WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES. I GUESS THOSE ARE MY MAIN QUESTIONS. WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR RETENTION AND WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR INCLUSIVE HIRING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, AS FAR AS RETENTION RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EFFORTS WE'RE PUTTING FORTH. I UNDERSTAND IT IS BEING LOOKED INTO. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THE OFFICERS. AS FAR AS RECRUITMENT BENEFITS, FOR LATERAL OFFICERS THEY CAN RECEIVE UP TO $15,000 SIGN ON BONUS AT THIS TIME. AND FOR CADETS, NEW HIRES, THEY'RE LOOKING AT $5,000 SIGN ON BONUS. THAT'S TO BRING THEM INTO THE DOOR RIGHT NOW. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ALL THE PERKS OF THE JOB AS AN OFFICER. THEY DO HAVE THAT TAKE-HOME PRIVILEGE AND THE BENEFITS THE CITY PROVIDES. THERE'S LOT OF BENEFITS TO BECOMING A POLICE OFFICER IN ITSELF THAT WE DISCUSS WITH NEW HIRES. AND EVEN THE LATERALS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE PRIVILEGES. BUT I UNDERSTAND RETENTION IS BEING CONSIDERED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, WE'LL GET INFORMATION AND SEND THAT TO THE COUNCILORS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR RETENTION. >>COUN. SENA: AND MY QUESTION ON MORE INCLUSIVE HIRING. >> YES, MORE INCLUSIVE HIRING. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS FOR ASKING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS. I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MYSELF. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THESE THIS EVENING. IF AYOU DON'T, JUST GET BACK TO ME. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF SERVICE TIME PRIOR TO RETIREMENT? I KNOW IN THE ORDINANCE, IN THE STATE LAW, IT SAYS THEY CAN WORK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS STAYING WITH THE DEPARTMENT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MY UNDERSTANDING, MOST OF OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE RETIRED, ALL OF THEM ARE ON A 20-YEAR PLAN. I'D SAY MANY OF THEM ARE LEAVING AFTER 20 YEARS. WE ALSO DO SEE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BY THAT YEAR OF AIR TIME OR MILITARY TIME ON TOP OF THAT. THAT'S NOT AS COMMON. THAT'S BASED ON WHAT I'M SAYING IN MY POSITIONS OF OPERATIONS REVIEW. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INDIVIDUALS LEAVING AS THEY APPROACH 20-YEAR MARK. THAT WILL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. THAT CHANGES TO 25-YEAR RETIREMENT IN 2012 OR 2013. THEY HAVE TO DO 25 YEARS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF OFFICERS REACHING THEIR 20 OR JUST BEYOND IT. WE STILL HAVE THEM. THEY HAVE THE LOVE FOR THE JOB AND THEY WANT TO BE HERE. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THERE STILL AN INCENTIVE PAY FOR THEM TO STAY LONGER IF THEY -- DO WE STILL OFFER THAT BENEFIT? IF THEY STAY LONGER THAN 20 YEARS. >> WE DO HAVE THE LONGEVITY PAY. THEY MAX THAT AT YEAR 20. AFTER YEAR 20 THEIR RETENTION PAY, THE LONGEVITY MONEY MAXES OUT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WITH THE MCI PROJECT WE HEARD ABOUT RETENTION. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED. WE HAVE IDEAS THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH LEGISLATORS ABOUT RETENTION. WHEN I REPORT BACK TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WE'LL INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THAT. LONGEVITY PROGRAM AND IF THERE'S WAYS THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. AND INCENTIIZE IT MORE. AFTER TRAINING AND THEY SAY 20 YEARS, THEY CAN'T DO THE RETURN TO WORK ANY LONGER. OBVIOUSLY THEY GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY PRETTY YOUNG. I REALLY THINK THAT IS AN AREA WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TO MAYBE ENHANCE. MY SECOND QUESTION IS WITH REGARD TO -- ONCE AN OFFICER GRADUATES FROM THE ACADEMY WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE SEEN ON AVERAGE OR IF YOU LOOKED AT IT, WITH REGARD TO HOW LONG DO THEY STAY WITH THE DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? HAVE YOU GUYS LOOK AT THAT. TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF A TREND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE DON'T HAVE DATA TO SHOW A TREND. JUST OBSERVING THOSE THAT ARE RESIGNING, IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE HAVE MORE NOW THAN BEFORE RESIGNING AT THOSE YEARS BETWEEN THE TENTH YEAR. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE PEOPLE GO. SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD IS YOU TALKED ABOUT TEXAS, THEY HAVE A 20-YEAR RETIREMENT. SOME PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LOSING ON ANY TIME. THEY CAN GO TO TEXAS AND DO 20 YEARS AND GET A RETIREMENT. WHEREAS HERE THEY STILL GET 20 YEARS. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THOSE LEAVING. WE DON'T HAVE A STUDY OR ANYTHING TO SHOW OR DATA TO SHOW TRENDS. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. ALSO, WITH REGARD TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THIS IS REALLY FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, IN THE PAST AND THIS IS YEARS AGO, MANY YEARS AGO, THERE WERE SOME INCENTIVES THAT THE PRIVATE SECTORER OFFERED TO POLICE OFFICERS AND PUBLIC SAFETY WITH REGARD TO LOWER INTEREST LOANS, INCENTIVES TO BUY HOUSES AND THAT SORT OF THING. I REALIZE WE HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE. HAS ANYONE TALKED WITH ANY OF THE CHAMBERS REGARDING WHAT INCENTIVES THE PRIVATE SECTORER COULD HELP THE CITY WITH TO OFFER OUR OFFICERS SOME SORT OF DECEMBER I KNOW SOME OF THE CREDIT THAT WAS MANY YEARS AGO. IF WE'RE HAVING -- WE NEED TO WORK IT FROM EVERY ANGLE. IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO SIT DOWN WITH SOME OF THE CHAMBERS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN OFFER AND LOOK AT TO HELP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS STAY IN THE COMMUNITY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR SUGGESTING THAT. WHAT I CAN DO IS GET BACK WITH YOU AND REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP AND MEET WITH YOU ALL IF YOU DO REACH OUT TO THEM. TO TALK ABOUT -- BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS WERE OFFERED IN THE PAST. AS I SAID, IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. THEY WERE PROGRAMS THAT WORKED. AND HELPED TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WORTHWHILE. OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COUNCILORS WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AS I ASKED, IF YOU WOULD SEND THAT TO ALL OF THE COUNCILORS SO THEY CAN HAVE THAT IN THEIR EMAIL BOX. COUNCILORS, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, YOU CAN FORWARD THOSE TO THE COMMANDER OR TO MR. PADILLA. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. TONIGHT THERE IS NONE. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP? WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS. BEFORE WE GO, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM INTO THE CHATROOM. WHILE HE DOES THAT I'M GOING TO READ INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE JOINING US TONIGHT TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WELCOME YOU. WE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME. THEY WILL REMAIN MUTED WITH THEIR CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY'RE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK. AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN THE CAMERA ON, UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND HAVE ONE A HALF MINUTES TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO CITY COUNCIL. AFTER THAT THEATTENDEE OF THE Z. THESE ARE THE CURRENT GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE WEBINAR. >> OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS MR. THOMAS. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT ON POLICE DISTRIBUTION AND MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY AND COUNCILOR SENA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT INCENTIVES TO KEEP OFFICERS WE HAVE. MY COMMENT IS OFF-TOPIC FROM THAT. I WAS AT THE SEPTEMBER 20th COUNCIL MEETING. I BROUGHT UP AN ALTERNATIVE TREATMENT TO COVID-19 VACCINES. GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA ASSIGNED JOSEPH -- AS THE NEW SURGEON GENERAL. ACCORDING TO THIS SCIENCE, THIS IS THE NEW SURGEON OF FLORIDA. SCIENTISTS ARE MISREPRESENTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE VACCINES. I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE DR. WAYLAND, SHE HAD COVID-19 AND GOT THE TREATMENT AND WITHIN EIGHT HOURS SHE WAS TOTALLY FINE. WITHIN THREE DAYS ALL OF HER SYMPTOMS DECREASED BY 90%. GOP GOVERNORS NATION WIDE ARE DRAWING UP INCENTIVES TO BLOCK VACCINE PASSPORTS WHICH IS CONFUSING BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE WAS REALLY ADVISING THAT THE -- WE AS CITIZENS OF THE U.S. TAKE THE VACCINE. THERE SEEMS TO BE A SPLIT. THAT'S CONFUSING. JUST BE AWARE OF THE WHO WILL COME FORWARD ABOUT ALTERNATIVE TREATMENTS TO COVID-19 OTHER THAN VACCINES. THAT WILL BE CHILDREN, AND PARENTS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKERER IS TERRA REID. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AND COUNCILORS IN MY FORMAL ROLE OF VISION ZERO COORDINATOR I HELPED DEVELOPED THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE YOU'LL SPEAK ABOUT TODAY. AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE, SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE WHICH IS PART OF VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN. IT'S ONE OF THE MANY WAYS THE CITY CAN WORK TO BETTER IMPROVE TRAFFIC SAFETY. THE ACTION PLAN REALLY FOEBSS ON THE NEED TO REDESIGN OUR ROADS TO SLOW DRIVERS AND PRIORITIZE SAFETY AND HUMAN LIFE OVER VEHICLE SPEED AND -- THERE'S GREAT PROJECTS THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE WORKED ON THAT HELPED OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. I HOPE THE PROJECTS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY. TO CHANGE THE DANGEROUS DRIVING CULTURE HERE. MEANWHILE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BE KILLED IN HIGH SPEED CRASHES. I THINK THAT MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAN COMPLIMENT THIS OTHER WORK BY EXTENDING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ENFORCE SAFETY. FROM MY EXPERIENCE THE STAFF WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM ARE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT IN THE PLACES WHERE DANGEROUS CRASHES OCCUR IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE IMPACT ON SAFETY. I JUST WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING THIS PROGRAM SHOULD CONTINUE TO CENTER EQUITY BOTH IN THE PENALTIES THAT MIGHT BE ASSESSED BUT ALSO IN THE ROLL OUT. I THINK EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT IN A MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM WILL BE IMPORTANT. I WANT TO NOTE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OVERBURDENED BY CRASHES FEEL OVERBURDENED BY POLICING. I HOPE THE MOBILE SPEED ENFORCEMENT KEEPS THAT IN MIND AND IS TRYING TO ADDRESS SPEED AND SAFETY FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MA'AM. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO SPEAKERS. COUNCILOR BENTON, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. BENTON: I HAVE A QUESTION IF WE CAN GET HER BACK ON. >> I'M HERE, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BENTON: I JUST WANT TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. NOT JUST ON THIS ORDINANCE, BUT YOUR ADVOCACY AND PASSION FOR FAIR ACCESS TO ALL OF OUR PUBLIC WAYS FOR ALL PEOPLE OF ALL ABILITIES AND MEANS AND INCOME AND ALL OF THE ABOVE, I APPRECIATE THAT TIME WITH YOU. I HOPE WE CAN GET SOMEBODY AS GOOD AS YOU TO REPLACE YOU AND AS OUR COORDINATOR. I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE WORKS. I GOT MY FINGERS CROSSED THAT WILL BE SOMEBODY AS THOUGHTFUL AND PASSIONATE AS YOU ARE. THANKS. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. BEFORE WE START OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD, I JUST ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AT OUR NEXT MEETING IF THEY CONSIDER BRINGING SOMEONE TO BRING SOMEONE IN TO DISCUSS TREATMENT AND THE QUESTION RAISED. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD REQUEST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AT OUR NEXT MEETING. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR JONES WHO HAS A QUESTION AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO REQUESTS THAT I RECEIVED THIS EVENING FROM COUNCILORS. OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM ASKING QUESTIONS LATER ON. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME. I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT ARE ALL ININVOLVING THE SAME TOPIC. I HOPE YOU INDULGE ME TO ASK THOSE. WE KNOW IT'S AN EXCITING PROSPECT. DUE TO THE ACTIVITIES WITH THE STADIUM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE PARKING PROPOSED. WE'RE NOT SEEING WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING TO THIS PARKING. THIS IS A VERY LARGE STADIUM, WHICH IS NICE IF IT WORKS AND GOES UP. IT DOESN'T SEEM FEASIBLE THAT THE CITY WOULD DEVELOP A STADIUM WITH NO PARKING. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, SEVERAL QUESTIONS IF I CAN ASK A FEW, AND ASK SOMEONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO RESPOND, MADAM PRESIDENT. IS THERE A PLAN TO FIND THE MONEY FOR STRUCTURE OR STRUCTURES? IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE THE STADIUM IS GOING TO BE. SO FAR, THE MONEY FOR IT IS $10 MILLION, $8 MILLION FROM THE STATE, $50 MILLION FROM THE BOND WHICH TOTALS $68 MILLION. THE STUDY ESTIMATE OF $60 MILLION TO $70 MILLION DID NOT ACCOUNT PARKING. HOW MANY CARS ARE WE ANTICIPATING? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT AND HOW WILL WE PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM HAVING THEIR STREETS BLOCKED WITH FANS PARKING IN THE AREA? BLOCKING DRIVE WAYS, THE MULTITUDE OF CARS IN THE NARROW STREETS, ARE WE GOING TO REDO THE STREETS AND WIDEN THEM SO THE CARS CAN GET THROUGH, DEPENDING IF WE BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES. AND IF WE DON'T BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR PARKING? HOW WILL THE NOISE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GAMES AND OTHER EVENTS BE MITIGATED? WE'RE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH CAN BE A PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE MULTITUDE FANS IN AN OUTDOOR STADIUM. OF COURSE, HARD TO ANSWER NOW, WHAT WILL BE THE ACCESS? WOULD WE GO THROUGH CENTRAL? WE LOVE PEOPLE GOING TO CENTRAL, DOES IT HELP BUSINESS OR HARM BUSINESS? LAST AND FINAL QUESTION, WHAT IS THE REALISTIC COST FOR THIS PROJECT? UNDERLINING AND PUTTING IN RED REALISTIC FINAL COST FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IF I CAN HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ANSWER THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. MR. RAEL. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR JONES, LET ME BEGIN BY -- FIRST I THINK YOU SOMEWHAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION YOURSELF. AS WE KNOW THE STUDY ONLY INDICATED THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTUAL FACILITY ITSELF. UNTIL WE BID THE PROJECT AND GET THE INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE ESTIMATES. NUMBER TWO, THE SITE WHERE THIS FACILITY IS GOING TO BE FINALLY CONSTRUCTED IS STILL UP FOR CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE SAID THE CONSULTANT MADE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN GENERAL ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS. WE WOULD HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY IF THE VOTERS APPROVED THE $50 MILLION PUT ON THE BOND QUESTION. IF IT'S BUILD, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE OLD UNIVERSITY AREA BY ISOTOPES PARK IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS, THE BEST I CAN TELL THERE'S A FAIRLY AMOUNT OF PARKING THERE THAT WOULD NOT NECESSITATE KRUKZ CONSTRUCTION OR PARKING STRUCTURE BUT A JOINT USE AGREEMENT TO USE PARKING THERE OR PARKING SPACES THERE. CONCURRENTLY, IF IT'S BUILT ON THE WEST SIDE THERE'S A LOT OF LAND AVAILABLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD SURFACE PARKING. IF IT RELATES TO THE TWO SITES DOWNTOWN, WELL, HERE'S A COUPLE OF CONCLUSIONS THAT OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE PROVIDED IN THE REPORT. ONE WAS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT IF IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE CORE OF THE CITY. IT WOULD BE UTILIZING THE RAIL RUNNERER AND USING THE RAIL RUNNER PARKING LOTS ALONG THE CORRIDOR FROM SANTA FE TO BELEN TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR FOLKS AND USE THAT FORM OF TRANSPORTATION TO BRING IT INTO AN URBAN AREA LIKE THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS OR EVEN THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS SHOULD THEY BE THE ULTIMATE DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL, QUITE FRANKLY. ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKING LOTS IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE. MANY, MANY OF THESE GAMES, IN FACT 90% OF THE GAMES HAPPEN AFTER 5 O'CLOCK. A LOT OF THOSE ARE VACANT BECAUSE OF FOLKS LEAVING THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND HEADING HOME IN THE EVENING. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR BIG CITIES TO HAVE PEOPLE WALK THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS TO GET TO A PARKING SPOT TO WALK TO THIS FACILITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S TO AN ADVANTAGE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE ALONG THE WALK YOU CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WITH RESTAURANTS AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO ENJOY DINNER AND A BEVERAGE BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE FACILITY IT CREATES THE DYNAMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I BELIEVE, TO BOTH. WHETHER IT'S THE EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE PLAN ON USING ALL THOSE PARKING FACILITIES. LIKE ANY PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT TALKS ABOUT OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE. KEEP IN MIND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK WITH THE RAIL TRAIL IF IT IS IN THAT AREA BY THE RAIL YARDS TO CREATE WALKING SPACES. WE KNOW WE'VE INVESTED LOT OF MONEY INTO WATER AND SEWER LINES AROUND THAT SITE. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT REALLY IS ABOUT CREATING -- ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOME INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE DECISION IS MADE ABOUT WHAT SITE MAKES THE MOST SENSE. AND PROVIDING THAT DECISION TO THE COUNCIL FOR MAKING THE DETERMINATION. LOOK, THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT BOTH OF THE SITES THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE THAT THE STUDY RECOMMENDED IS YOU HAVE THE TWO ONE-WAYS THAT PROVIDE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN, PLUS CENTRAL, PLUS YOU HAVE CHAVEZ TO THE SOUTH AND BROADWAY AND OTHER MAJOR ROAD WAYS THAT CONNECT TO THESE SITES. BUT, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE DECISIONS WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING AND MAKING A DETERMINATION OF WHERE THE SITE IS GOING TO BE AND TO GET THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION. THE LAST POINT IS THE REAL COST OF THE PROJECT. UNTIL A DECISION IS MADE ON THE SITE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER THAT IS UNREALISTIC AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECTS. WE KNOW THE ESTIMATES BASED ON THE CONSULTANTS WORK AND WHAT THEY SAID WOULD BE A BALLPARK NUMBER. DEPENDING ON WHAT OTHER AMENITIES WE WANT TO ADD TO THE FACILITY OR QUITE FRANKLY MAYBE AMENITIES YOU WANT TO TALK AWAY FROM THE FACILITY. WHY DON'T WANT TO BUILD 12,000 SEATS. MAYBE WE DECIDE WE WANT TO BUILD 10 OR 8. ALL OF THOSE HAVE FACTORS IN THE PROJECT. I WANT TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC, WHEN WE RENOVATED THE ISTOPES PARK WE ESTIMATED $30 MILLION TO REDO THE FACILITY. WHEN THE VOTERS APPROVED THE $10 MILLION AND NEGOTIATED THE OWNERSHIP GROUP WE GOT $25 MILLION FOR THE PROJECT. WE BUILT THE PROJECT TO THE BUDGET WE HAD. I THINK THERE'S LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE REALLY WORK WITH UNITED AND GET A PRONALITY -- PROJECT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND STAY WITHIN THE BUDGET. UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT SITE OR WHERE IN THE CITY WE BUILD THIS I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER. THESE ARE CONSULTANTS THAT BUILD THESE FACILITIES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR ESTIMATES. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH -- IN TERMS OF THE PARKING OR TRANSPORTATION AND THE FACILITY COST. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK AGAIN. YOU'RE A VERY GOOD SPOKESPERSON. HOWEVER THE VACANT LOTS ARE OWNED PRIVATELY. WILL THEY ALLOW US TO DO THIS. A MAJORITY OF THE PARKING STRUCTURES ARE PRIVATELY OWNED. THE CITY DOESN'T OWN THAT MANY. WILL PEOPLE REALLY, LET'S GET REAL HERE, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE STADIUM IS, HOW FAR WILL THEY WALK PRIOR TO THE REVITALIZING OF THE AREA AND MAKING IT SAFE AND COMFORTABLE TO WALK? A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T ANSWERED. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IN MY SMALL BIT OF HISTORY IN REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT MAKE-OR-BREAK. ONE NEEDS TO KNOW THE ANSWERS, ONE NEEDS TO KNOW VERY CLOSE GUESTS OF THE COSTS BEFORE WE PROCEED. I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL BE HAVING ENOUGH FORESIGHT TO SHOW THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING COST WISE, TIME WISE AND LOCATION BEFORE THIS IS FINALIZED. MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. MR. RAEL, YOU'RE A VERY GOOD SPOKESMAN FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED REGARDING THIS ISSUE. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: NOT ON THAT ISSUE MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU NEXT, COUNCILOR DAVIS. YOU HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT QUESTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S NOT A QUESTION, MORE OF A KUDOS. I SEE THAT OUR INTERIM OR NEW DIRECTOR IS AROUND. DIRECTOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANKS. WHEN WE DO GOOD THINGS IN THE CITY WE SHOULD SPEND TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND YOUR TIME. A NEW ROUND OF SMALL BUSINESS GRANT CHECKS HAVE STARTED TO GO OUT AGAIN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'RE ABLE TO FUND A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR APPLICATIONS THIS PAST FRIDAY. WE'RE VERY HAPPY. WE DO HAVE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS. WE'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER DISTRIBUTION ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22nd. IF YOUR CONSTITUENTS OR SMALL BUSINESSES HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET, WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS AND WE SHOULD HAVE A NOTICE TO THEM SOMEWHERE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. THERE'S STILL SOME APPLICATIONS BEING REVIEWED AND CAN STILL BE FUNDED. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. LARA. I WANT TO SAY THE DIRECTOR KNOWS THIS, HIS FOLKS SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AS THEY COME IN. THERE'S HUNDREDS OF NEW ONES AND THIS IS THE SECOND OR THIRD TIME THEY'VE DONE THIS WORKING LONG HOURS TO GET IT DONE. ON A PERSONAL LEVEL IN MY DISTRICT, I HAD TWO SMALL ASIAN-OWNED BUSINESSES WHO HAD A PROBLEM COMPLETING THE APPLICATION, THEY WORKED WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO GET LANGUAGE HIM AND WORK WITH MY OFFICE TO GET LANGUAGE HELP TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATIONS. I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TEXT MESSAGE THE OTHER DAY FROM TWO BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE CRYING BECAUSE THEY GOT THE CHECKS AT JUST THE RIGHT TIME AS THEIR BUSINESS SEASON SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE SUMMER BUSINESSES. THE CITY WAS ABLE TO STEP UP AND THE DIRECTOR'S TEAM WAS ABLE TO DO THAT. I KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING ON A DAILY BASIS AS NEW FOLKS GET APPROVED. I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT IN A WHILE OR THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR WORKING ON THAT AND MOVING THAT FORWARD. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS, ARE FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. AND I ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE TRANSITION YOU'VE MADE WITH MS. JARAMILLO LEAVING. IT'S A BIG THING TO GET THESE LOANS OUT. AND ALSO TO HER IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL WAY. I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. WE LOOK FORWARD AND I SEE THAT DIRECTOR VARELLA IS ALSO ON THE LINE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE BUSINESS LICENSES COMING ON BOARD ESPECIALLY AS SMALL BUSINESSES ARE OPENING AND WE HOPE TO PROCESS THOSE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENT LAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. WITH THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR JOURNAL. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: SORRY, I WAS MUTED. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 20th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, CAN. I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. YOU HAVE SEVERAL OTHER SECONDS. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA, THERE YOU ARE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I WILL OFFER THE FIRST CHANGE, COUNCILORS. I MOVE THAT THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING OC-45 ON TODAY'S AGENDA. IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPOINT MR. JESSY CRAWFORD TO THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY BOARD. WE NEED TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS PRESENT TO VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR APPOINTMENT. COUNCILOR SENA, IS THAT A SECOND? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. I WOULD ASK COUNCILOR BENTON OR COUNCILOR SENA IF ONE OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS? COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-205. IT'S ACKNOWLEDGING AND RECOGNIZING THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL CEMETERY AT 4H PARK AS A HISTORICAL AND SACRED BURIAL SITE. ACKNOWLEDGING THE TRAUMA EXPERIENCED BY NATIVE-AMERICAN EXPERIENCES AS A RESULT OF INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL POLICY AND COMMITTING TO WORK WITH TRIBAL NATIONS FOR RECONCILIATION AND HEALING. >>COUN. BORREGO: I SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND I ALSO SECOND THAT. I WOULD ALSO REMIND US THAT WE NEED TWO THIRDS OF OUR COUNCILORS PRESENT TO VOTE ON THIS IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES. WE'LL MOVE BACK TO COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE OC-21-42 FROM THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. IT'S THE APPOINTMENT OF MR. JARED ROBERT TO THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. I SECOND THAT MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE NEED A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: COULD YOU RESTATE THE MOTION? THIS IS TO WITHDRAW? >> REMOVE IT FROM THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. I VOTE YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR GIBSON, I'LL GO BACK TO YOU. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. YOU ALSO HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WHICH IS REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 27. IN THE MATTER OF EC431 IT ABELIEVE APPROVED AND ACTED ON IN THE MEETING WHICH IT WAS REPORTED. IN EC432 AND 433 BE APPROVED. EC434, 436 RECEIPT BE NOTED. R-190, 194, 199, 200 PASS. 198 DUE PASS AS SUBSTITUTED AND BE ACTED UPON AT THE MEETING REPORTED. IN R-201 DUE PASS AND BE ACTED UPON AT THE MEETING WHICH IT IS REPORTED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEET REPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 28. EC428 BE APPROVED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. COUNCILORS, ARE THERE ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? COUNCILOR PEÑA. IF NOT, I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD. COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT THIS? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, SORRY ABOUT THAT. R-8 -- R-182 IS ESTABLISHING IT AS A PRIORITY FOR CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL NOVEMBER 3. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER SECONDS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. THE NEXT ITEM IS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE M-11. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE REAFFIRMS STRONG COMMITMENT TO END THE DRIVERS OF CRIME INCLUDING CRIMINAL FIREARM USE. I MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL OCTOBER 18th. COUNCILORS, I TELL YOU WE'RE WORKING WITH APD ON THIS. WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED OUR WORK. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA FOR THE SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR THE DEFERRAL. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING? I'M GOING TO READ VERY QUICKLY INTO THE RECORD. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAD A QUESTION? >>COUN. BENTON: I WANT TO VOTE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO DIRECTOR SIMON AND OTHER COUNCILORS CO-SPONSORS. IT'S A REALLY GOOD GROUP OF GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT. THANKS FOR DIRECTOR AND HIS PROACTIVE ATTITUDE. >>COUN. BORREGO: HE'S GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILOR BENTON. AND FOR RECOGNIZING OUR STAFF. I'M GOING TO READ, VERY QUICKLY, JUST A SHORT BIT OF INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON BOARD OR COMMISSION AND WHO MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I SIGH -- SEE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 11. ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN'T FIND MY SCRIPT. SOMEBODY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL READ THAT INTO THE RECORD. THERE'S A COMMITTEE ON GUIDELINES FOR NEGOTIATIONS MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW, OCTOBER 5th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY OCTOBER 12th IS CANCELED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14th AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING. AC21-12. FRANK COMFORT APPEALS THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER. I WILL MOVE TO OUR RECENT HIRE, OUR NEW ATTORNEY JULIA CALDON. GREAT NAME. GOOD EVENING, IT'S GREAT TO MEET YOU AND GOOD TO SEE YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WONDER IF SHE WOULD MIND GIVING US A SUMMARY? >>COUN. BORREGO: ABSOLUTELY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, YES, THE ISSUE IN THIS APPEAL IS WHETHER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD BE GRANTED FOR A DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY LOCATED AT 1901LADERA DRIVE NORTHWEST. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER DETERMINED THE USE SHOULD BE APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION THAT A MANDATORY TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO APPROVALS FROM THE CITY WHICH MAY BE USED AS A BASIS TO REQUIRE MITIGATION OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GENERATED BY THE DRIVE-THROUGH USE. THE LAURELWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALED THE DECISION OF THE DHE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ARGUING THE CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BEFORE THE APPROVAL. COUNCIL REFERRED THIS APPEAL TO ITS LAND USE HEARING OFFICER WHO RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPEAL BE DENIED AND IT BE AFFIRMED AND THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE APPROVED WITH THE MANDATORY TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. THE SITE AT ISSUE ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 1.5 ACRES OF VACANT LAND AT 1901 LADERA WHICH IS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF UNSER AND LADERA. IT'S ZONED MXL, WHICH A RESTAURANT AS A PRIMARY USE IS A PERMISSIVE USE AND A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY IS A CONDITIONAL ACCESSORY USE IN THIS ZONE. THE SITE IS PRESENTLY VACANT, BUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION PROPOSES THE DRIVE-THROUGH TO SUPPORT A RESTAURANT ON THE SITE. THE DHE APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH, BUT IT IMPOSED CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL WHICH RELEVANT TO THIS APPEAL IS CONDITION THREE, WHICH STATES FURTHER DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS ARE CONDITIONED ON THAT MANDATORY TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. THE APPELLANT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARGUES THAT IT ERRORED BY NOT REQUIRED THE IMPACT STUDY PRIOR. AFTER THEY PRODUCED A 2014 TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY REGARDING THE HERITAGE MARKETPLACE DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF UNSER AND LADERA DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE THE SITE AT ISSUE. ALTHOUGH THIS IS APPLICABLE, THE APPELLANT UTILIZED THE 2014 IMPACT STUDY TO SHOW TRAFFIC IN THE AREA IS OVERBURDENED AND THE DRIVE UP RESTAURANT WILL PRODUCE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF AUTOMOBILE TRIPS THAN WOULD A RESTAURANT WITHOUT A DRIVE-UP. THE APPELLANT REQUEST THE CITY COUNCIL OVERTURN THE CHE. THE LUHO DETERMINED THAT IT SHOULD BE AFFIRMED AND THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD BE APPROVED SUBJECT TO THE DONE CONDITIONS IMPOSED BY THE DHE. SPECIFICALLY, THE LUHO DETERMINED THAT THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPOSED DRIVE-THROUGH WILL CREATE MATERIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE ROADWAY SYSTEM. BUT THE DHE APPROPRIATELY PROVIDED MANDATORY MANNER OF MITIGATING THOSE IMPACTS BY REQUIRING THE APPLICANTS TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. WHICH PER THE IDO THE DHE MAY IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON AN APPROVAL TO MATEIGATE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. THEY FOUND THIS REQUIREMENT TO BE THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE TRAFFIC BY HANDING OVER SPECIALIZED TRAFFIC ISSUES TO THE THE CITY EXPERTS. AND THEY DETERMINED THAT THIS QUALIFIED AS SUFFICIENT MITIGATION. THEY DID NOT BUSE DISCRETION OR ERROR IN APPLYING THE IDO AND THEREFORE THE LUHO RECOMMENDS THE APPEAL BE DENIED AND IT BE AFFIRMED AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE CONFIRMED. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COUNCILOR SENA, AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST APPRECIATE THE SUMMARY. I KNOW THAT SHE AND I -- I HAD CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IN READING THE RECOMMENDATION. THE ISSUE FOR ME IS THAT THE DHE AND IN THE WRITE-UP IT SAYS IT'S ILL-DEFINED, DID FIND THAT IT WILL CREATE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE ROAD. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PRODUCING A RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BE CONDUCTED. THERE'S ALSO THIS -- THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION, IN MY VIEW, WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND THE RECOMMENDATION. AND CLARIFY INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO MATERIAL IMPACTS OF THE ROADS. WHETHER THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE APPLICANT PUTTING IN FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE. I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS SOME MORE INFORMATION AND SOME WORK. I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO ENTERTAIN A FULL HEARING ON THIS MATTER. JUST TO CLARIFY SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. OF COURSE, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER COUNCILORS HERE THAT ARE ASKING FOR MORE QUESTIONS OR MORE CLARIFICATION. I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR NOW. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YEAH, I'M INCLINED TO HEAR THIS CASE. IT SEEMS CONVOLUTED. IT SEEMS IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH JUST THE STANDARD PROCEDURES UNDER THE DPM FOR ORDERING A TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE DHE SEEMS TO HAVE INSERTED THEMSELVES SOMEWHAT INTO IT WITH THIS REQUIREMENT OF AN EX POST FACTO TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUDY. THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL WHICH THE FRONT IN QUESTION IS WILL IT OR WILL IT NOT HARM THE NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS AND PUBLIC. I FIND IT UNUSUAL TO SAY, WELL FOR TECHNICAL REASONS, BECAUSE I REALIZE THE APPEAL -- PARDON ME IF I'M WRONG, THE APPEAL IS A TECHNICALITY THAT THE APPELLANT'S DEMAND WAS FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING WITH THE ZHE. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS WHAT IS THE PRECEDENT BEING SET WITH THAT? EVERYBODY THINKS THERE SHOULD BE A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR PROJECT X THAT'S NEAR THEM. THAT WOULD BE UNTENABLE FROM AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. I DO THINK THERE'S A CONCERN AND I WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT IT AND HEAR IT AND REMEDY MIGHT BE TO GO BACK AND CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE EVALUATE SUCH A THING. BECAUSE IT DOES CREATE A TRAFFIC IMPACT TO THE IMMEDIATE AREAS. IT'S SOME TRAFFIC IMPACT AND THE ZHE ACKNOWLEDGE, AND MOST PEOPLE WOULD, YOU'RE PUTTING A DRIVE-UP WINDOW IN AN AREA WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC ISSUES. I KNOW IT'S WORTH HEARING IT. I REALIZE IT'S MESSY. I THINK THE APPELLANT APPEALED BASED ON THE WRONG THING, IN SOME WAY. NOT THROUGH ANY FAULT OF THEIR OWN, BUT JUST THROUGH NOT COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DPM AND THE THESE APPROVALS. I WOULD MOVE TO ACCEPT THE APPEAL FOR THE PURPOSES OF TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WENT WRONG. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BENTON: OR IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG. FOR A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL KEEP THAT MOTION ON THE TABLE. I HAVE TWO OTHER COUNCILORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ACTUALLY, I HAVE THREE. I HAVE COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. IS THERE A SECOND FOR COUNCILOR BENTON'S MOTION? >>COUN. SENA: MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN I ASK CHRIS TO CLARIFY THAT MOTION? COUNCILOR BENTON, ARE YOU REJECTINGING THE RECOMMENDATION? >>COUN. BENTON: THIS WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THE APPEAL FOR A HEARING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, I THINK YOU'RE INTENT IS CLEAR TO ME. WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE IDO CONTEMPLATES, IT SHOULD BE ACCEPTING OR REJECTINGING THE RECOMMENDATION. THE REJECTION RESULTING IN THE FUEL -- FULL APPEAL. WIN YOU SAY ACCEPTING, IT CAN BE AMBIGUOUS WHETHER OR NOT YOU -- >>COUN. BENTON: WASN'T THE QUESTION ACCEPT OR REJECT? >> IF YOU'RE SAYING ACCEPT, YOU ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION. YOU WANT TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I CHANGE MY MOTION. IF I'M ALLOWED TO DO THAT? >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU ARE, COUNCILOR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR MOTION ON THE TABLE AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE OTHER THREE COUNCILORS? >>COUN. BENTON: I'M CHANGING MY MOTION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. >>COUN. SENA: CAN I ASK COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S CHANGING YOUR MOTION TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS GRANTED? IN THAT CASE I WILL SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE THEY'RE COUNCILORS THAT HAVE THEIR HAPPENEDS -- HANDS UP TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO GO TO THOSE THREE COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE ACCEPT THIS. WEAR IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SAYING, WHICH IS THE ARGUMENT FROM THE APPELLANT, EVERY TIME SOMETHING NEW IS BUILT THAT AFFECTS THE FLOW, OF COURSE IT DOES. WHETHER IT'S A PIECE OF SOMETHING ALREADY THERE OR BUILDING SOMETHING NEW. KNOWING FULL WELL THEY CAN LAND CAN BE BUILT ON. I THINK WE'RE JUST PROLONGING SOMETHING. IT'S FOR US TO SAY AND ALLOW THIS ANOTHER APPEAL BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING IT AFFECTS THE EXISTING PROPERTIES, IT DOES. THAT'S WHAT BUILDING NEW THINGS DO. THAT'S WHY WE REMODEL OLD THINGS. I THINK THIS IS ILL-PLACED. I'LL VOTE AGAINST COUNCILOR BENTON'S MOTION. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU,COUNCILOR JONES. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND TO COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN THE READING OF THESE DOCUMENTS IN THE BRIEFING WE'VE HAD WITH COUNCIL STAFF. I WAS CONFUSED AT FIRST EARLIER TODAY AND THIS WEEKEND, BUT IT'S CLARIFIED. MY CONCERN IS IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ZHE POST ACTIVELY RECOMMEND FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY TO BE COMPLETED I WANT TODAY MAKE SURE WE'RE SAYING WE'RE OKAY WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY BEING COMPLETED AND THEN WE GET ALL THESE RESULTS BACKS AND THE PROPERTY OWNER GETS RESULT BACK THAT END UP WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT AFTER THAT. IT WAS -- I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT IT'S UP TO THE TRAFFIC AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ANY OTHER PERMITS THAT NEED TO BE OBTAINED IN THE BUILDING AND THE CHANGING OF THIS IS UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE DEPARTMENT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO IMPOSE ANYTHING FROM THE CURRENT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WOULD BE USED. IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN AN APPEAL WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE VOTING ON FRAUDULENT, CAPRICIOUS, OR NEGLECTFUL, I THINK THOSE ARE THE THREE, FINDINGS. I DO NOT SEE HOW IT CAN BY ARGUED THAT THE ZONE HEARING EXAMINE OR THE LUHO ACTED THAT WAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. I THINK THIS PERSON MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- THERE'S LOTS OF EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD THAT SUPPORT THE LUHO. AND I THINK ALBUQUERQUE AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE HAVING SO MANY ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING IS IT TAKES SO LONG AND SO EXPENSIVE TO DEVELOP ANYTHING. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD DUE PROCESS AND LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S CAPABLE THAT LOOKED AT THIS AND THOUGHT CAREFULLY. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE APPELLANT HASN'T MET THAT. THE ARGUMENT FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE REPRESENTED IS IT'S NEARBY AND SORT OF -- IT IS A CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS GETTING MIXED IN. POLICY SEEMS TO GET MIXED IN. I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. THERE ARE NO OTHER COUNCILORS WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED. WE WILL MOVE BACK TO THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR PROPOSED BY COUNCILOR BENTON. TO REJECT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION. COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU'RE MUTED. >>COUN. BENTON: MY APOLOGIES. AND THANKS TO MR. MELENDREZ WHO UNDERSTOOD WHO I WAS COMING FROM WHEN I MADE THE WRONG MOTION. HERE'S THE THING, I THINK THERE'S REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THE DHE ERRORD. NOT BECAUSE HE DID ANYTHING FRAUDULENT, BUT THE NOT SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE CLAUSE. HIS DECISION INCLUDED AN UNPRECEDENTED TYPE OF TRAFFIC STUDY AND SEEMS TO ME PROCEDUREALLY TO BE THE WRONG APPROACH TO THE QUESTION. THAT'S THE REASON I THINK WE OUGHT TO REHEAR IT. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE. SEEMINGLY, THE APPELLANT, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY DECIDED TO DO WHAT THEY DID IN THE WAY THEY PUT THIS FORWARD. I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT AND TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING OF EX-POST FACTO. THIS IS WHAT THE ZHE DID. THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS GOING TO DO WHAT? MAKE THEM TAKE OUT THE DRIVE-UP LANE? A PROJECT OF THIS SMALL SIZE, WHICH IS BY STANDARDS IS A SMALL SIZE, STILL HAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT. I DISAGREE WITH COUNCILOR JONES, IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A DRIVE-UP LANE IN AN AREA WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC. THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT THE ZHE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND PUT FORWARD. TO ME, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD THAT PROCEEDED FROM THAT AND WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO FIND OUT AFTER THEY BUILD THE DRIVE-UP LANE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JULIA. >> THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WOULD TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO ANY DRIVE-THROUGH GETTING BUILT AT THE SITE. SO, THE INTENTION BEING THAT THE DEVELOPER PAYS FOR THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY TO BE DONE AND FOR EXAMPLE WHEN THE APPLICATION IS IN FRONT OF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER BEFORE SIGNING OFF TO LET THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD, HE OR SHE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND SAY I'M SIGNING OFF ON THIS PROJECT BUT YOU NEED TO DO THE MITIGATION STEPS OUTLINES IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD. IT WOULDN'T BE THE DRIVE-THROUGH GETTING BUILT AND AFTER THE FACT REALIZING THAT THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. >>COUN. BENTON: SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND SO REALLY THIS IS AN ABOUT AN ARGUMENT OVER WHETHER IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED BEFORE OR AFTER THE ZHE HEARING? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S SOLELY, IS THAT SOLELY WHAT THE LUHO WAS LOOKING AT? >> YES, THAT WAS THE ANALYSIS OF WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE ZHE TO REQUIRE THIS CONDITION AFTER THE FACT. IF I MAY, THE IDO AND BPM DO NOT REQUIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY BE COMPLETED IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE UNLESS CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE TRIGGERED OR THRESHOLDS ARE MET WHICH DID NOT OCCUR HERE. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OF THE IDO AND BPM IF THE ZHE WERE TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED AND REVIEWED THAT WOULD BE CONTRARY TO WHAT THE IDO LAYS OUT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO WITH DRAW MY MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAD A MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT HAS NOW BEEN WITHDRAWN. COUNCILOR -- COUNCILOR GIBSON -- COUNCILOR SENA YOU WERE THE SECOND. YOU'LL WITHDRAW THAT AS WELL? >>COUN. SENA: I WOULD NOT WITHDRAW A SECOND. HOWEVER, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. OR AT LEAST WHY I ORIGINALLY SUPPORTED THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, YOU CAN REMAKE THE MOTION, IF YOU SO CHOOSE. >>COUN. SENA: I WILL REMAKE THE MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COUNCILORS WAITING IN THE WINGS TO SPEAK. COUNCILOR HARRIS, COUNCILOR JONES, AND WE'LL GO BACK TO YOU COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO, I'D LIKE TO ASK JULIA A QUESTION. IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT THIS IS AN ACCOMMODATION OR MADE AS AN OFFER BY THE DEVELOPER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR HARRIS, IN THE ZHE'S DECISION IT'S NOTED THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO STAKE STEPS TO MITIGATE ADVERSE IMPACT. >>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPER TO REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY BEFORE THE EXECUTION, NOW WE'RE SAYING -- WE'RE PUNISHING THEM FOR MAKING ACCOMMODATIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AGAIN, OUR CITY HAS THESE ISSUES OVER AND OVER. I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE OF A SPECIFIC PROJECT BEING BUILT. TOO MANY TIMES IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ON VACANT LAND CONSIDER IT TO BE THEIR OWN PLAYGROUND NEVER TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT SOMEONE'S HOME OR BUSINESS THERE. I THINK THE ZHE GAVE GREAT EXPLANATION. IT WAS STUDIED AND APPEALED. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESSES. I WOULD SUPPORT THE ZHE RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FOR ME, WHY I REMADE THE MOTION AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FULL HEARING IS TO UNDERSTAND, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SUBMITTED AN EMAIL SAYING THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC IMPACT AND YET THE ZHE IS SAYING THERE WOULD BE ADVERSE THINGS TO THE ROAD SYSTEMS. THEY MET IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH I APPRECIATE, IN TERMS OF OFFERING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY. THAT'S WHY TO HEAR AND UNDERSTAND FROM A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STANDPOINT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS UNDERSTANDING THE ZHE OF A TIS TO BE PRODUCED. I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK SHE CLARIFIED THAT. THE IDO DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE ONE PRIOR. FOR ME, IT'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THROUGH CONDITIONAL USES IT'S UP TO THE PERSON THAT IS APPLYING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, AND BECAUSE THERE'S QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT HARM WOULD BE DONE BASED OFF TRAFFIC, I KNOW THAT'S MY POINT IN HAVING A FULL HEAR ISSING TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER. BETWEEN THE ZHE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING. IN SOME WAYS IT DOES SPEAK TO WHAT COUNCILOR BENTON WAS SPEAKING TO, BUT ALSO FOR ME I SAW THAT IT IS PRUDENT FOR US IF -- AS I'M READING IT, HOW THE PERSON THAT IS APPLYING FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE IS THERE'S NO HARM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S UP FOR DEBATE WHETHER THE ZHE IS PUTTING THAT IT'S GOING TO CREATE MATERIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE ROAD SYSTEMS AND YET TRAFFIC ENGINEERS IS STATING SOMETHING ELSE. I WANT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHY TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MADE THAT STATEMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. I THINK I WILL MOVE TO A VOTE. IF THAT MOTION DOESN'T PASS, THEN WE WILL GO BACK AND LOOK FOR ANOTHER MOTION. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO ANOTHER MOTION. IS THERE ANYONE STILL INCLINED? COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. HARRIS: -- >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT. I MAKE A MOTION TO AFFIRM THE ZHE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, IS THAT A SECOND? >>COUN. HARRIS: THAT'S A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS. IS THAT YOUR MOTION? >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. >> MOTION PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS WHICH IS APPROVALS. WHICH IS ITEM 13. THERE'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPOINT JESSY CRAWFORD TO TH POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. I BELIEVE MOST COUNCILORS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MR. CRAWFORD. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM IF HE'S WILLING TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BORREGO: CAN WE MOVE INTO CHATROOM. YOU MAY GO AHEAD. >>COUN. HARRIS: SO, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION RECENTLY, AND WE'VE HAD CRITICISM FROM THE MONITOR THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD WEREN'T DOING TRAINING. MY RESPONSE IS THEY KNEW THAT WAS A CONDITION OF THE POSITION AND THEY VOLUNTEERED. I THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE HARD WORK ON THAT. IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB. IN ORDER TO BE COMPLAINT AND GET OUT OF THIS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR I'S CROSSED AND T'S CROSSED ON EVERY LEVEL. WE'VE HEARD POLICE OFFICERS ARE USING -- AS A REASON TO LEAVING THE FORCE. THIS COULD BE ONE PIECE OF THAT. IF IT'S CREATING A NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY, IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO ON ALL LEVELS MAKE SURE. I JUST WANT TO ASK HIM IF HE HAS ANY PROBLEM DOING THE TRAINING REQUIRED? >> YES, I'VE BEEN FAMILIARIZED WITH THE TRAINING REQUIRED FOR CPOB MEMBERS. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT TRAINING. AND I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN SEEING IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT WHY IT IS THE BOARD IS RUNNING BEHIND ON THE TRAINING. I'VE GOTTEN THE IMPRESSION THERE'S UNDERLYING ISSUES THERE. >>COUN. HARRIS: THAT'S ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. COUNCILOR GIBSON, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND REACHING OUT TO BE ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT BOARD. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CITY BOARD WE HAVE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ON THE TOPIC OF TRAINING THAT SOME OF THOSE TRAININGS HAVE NOT BEEN MADE AVAILABLE. IT'S NOT AS CUT AND DRY AS WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE. THERE'S EX -- WE'RE HAPPY YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE TRAINING OFFERED AND THAT IS AVAILABLE. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU, MR. CRAWFORD. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT STAFF ACTUALLY GOES THROUGH APPLICATIONS. WE GET A LOT. AND AFTER STAFF DOES THAT THEY HAVE CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS AND MR. CRAWFORD WAS ONE OF THEM. HE ALSO MITT WITH COUNCILORS BEFOREHAND AND WAS GRILLED HEAVILY. WHETHER YOU READ THE CASA WHICH WAS MONITORED. I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT THAT A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES WE DON'T GET TO SEE THE BACKGROUND WORK AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE COUNSEL STAFF FOR DOING WITH THE WORK AND SCHEDULING THESE MEETINGS. ESPECIALLY WRANGLING NINE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHILE AVOIDING QUORUM. I THINK IT WAS STRESSED ENOUGH AS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BOARD. AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION REALLY THAT THE CPOA IS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC. BUT ALSO BASED ON THE CASA, AS WELL AS OUR ORDINANCE TO -- AS COUNCILORS WE APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS. I JUST WANT TO STRESS THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO SO. I THINK THAT AS WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION IT'S NOT JUST -- OF COURSE WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS MORE ACCOMMODATING, BUT THERE'S SEPARATE COMPONENTS WHEN IT COMES TO CASA REQUIREMENTS. WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE, AS COUNCILOR HARRIS WAS STRESSING, EACH PERSON THAT SERVES ON THIS BOARD GOES THROUGH THE MINIMUM OF THE CASA TRAINING AND FOLLOWING UP WHAT'S REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE. IT JUST BEING TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC THAT EACH APPOINTMENT THAT WE'VE MADE, AT LEAST WE'VE CHANGED OUR PROCESS SO FAR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THAT MR. CRAWFORD WAS IN THE HOT SEAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME UNDER MY GRILLING AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK U, COUNCILOR SENA. I TOO WANT TO MENON THAT WHEN I DID ST ON YOUR INTERVIEW LAST WEEK. THANK YOU, THIS MORNING FOR MEETING ME AGAIN. I HAD A COUPLE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME Y TOOK TO MT WITH ME I WAS IMPRESSED BY YOUR INSIGHT WITH REGD TO BOARD AND THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU READ AND YOU FAMILIARIZEDOURSELF TH. THAT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE TO ME. THANK YOU FORTHAT,R. CRAWFORD. I THINK THATHOWS YOUR DEGREE OF SERIOUSND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK. WITH THAT, COCILORS, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A COND. I DON'T HA ANY ADDIONAL COUNCILORS SIGNEDP TO SPEAK. WE WILL MOVE TO A TE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GION: YES. >>CO. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JO YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YE >>COUNSENA: S. >>COUN. BORREG YES. MS. TEGA, CNCILOR BENTON BACK ONLINE. >>COUN. BENTON: MY VE ISYES. >> PASSES ANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BORRO: THANK YOU,R. CRAWFORD. WE LOK FORWARD TO SING YOU AGN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. WI TH, COUNCILORS, WEE GOING TO MOVE ON TO F ACTIONS. WHICH ISTEM 14 ON OURAGENDA. IS IS COUNCOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR SE COUNCILORASSAN AND COUNCILOR BENTON COUNCILOR BENTON ARE YOU WIING TOPEA FIRST? >>COUN. NTON: I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. BOEGO: THANK YOU. CAN I RE WHAT THIS IS. ENACTINGHE AUQRQUE AUTOMATED SPDNFORCEMENT ORDINAE TO MONITOR THE SPEED TRAVEL AND ENFORCE SPEED LIT THUGH EED ENFCEME MES. I BELIEVE THAT'S A SON FROM COU. I ST WT TO THANKHE COUNCILORS WHO WORKED ON THIS COMMITTEE. TOOME UP WIT THESE COMMENDATIONS. THERS MOTION AND A SND FO A DUE PASS. I GUE THE ARE ALSO A FOR BSTITUTE?SOT ON. SEE CNCILOR BASSAN SKING HER AD, YES DO IVE AOTION TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUT >>COUNBENTON: VED, MAD PREST. >>COUN. BORRO:OW ABOUT A COM COUILOR BENTON. >>COUNBENT: SECOND. THK YO >>COUNBOEGO:HANK YOU. THE FLOOR SUBITUT IS IN YOUR iPS COUNCILO. I'LL N VOTE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE ANUENS RARD IS FLO SUBSTITUTEOR COMMENTS? I DO NO ANY HANDSRAED. MS. ORGA, THE MOTIONN THE OOR SUTITUTE. >>COUNBAAN: ES. >>CO. BENTONYES. >>COUN. DAS: Y. UN. GIBSONS. >>CO. RRIS: YES. >>COUN. NES:YES. >>COUNPE: YE >>COUNSENAYES. >>COUN. BOEGO:ES OKAY COUNLORS. THLO SSTITUTE PASSES O A 9- WE WILL GO BACK TOE ORIGINAL MOTION. I ALSO SEE WE NEED AULE SUPENSION. >>CO. VIS: I THI WE ALSO HA ENDMENT. COUN. BORREGO:HAT'S ONY SCRIPT. I'M SORRY, IT IS I JUISSED T. WE VE ONE AMDMENT. COUNLORS THIS IS COUNCOR DAVI COUNCIR S, WOULD Y CRE EXPIN URENDMENT? >>CO. DAVI RE,ADAM PRIDT. MBER OE TOLOOR SUBUT ENT FOR O-21-6 TH DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE SUB,UT T COUNCILAD ALREADYPPROD THE OPTIO FOR FOLKS TO O INTO COMNITY SERVICINIEU OF A FINE THIS AMENDNTU CREATES THE TECHNICAPROCESWHEREHE A PEON RECEIVES THEIR CITION THE MAILE CAN OPT TO PAY THE FINE, OPT FOR A HEARING O OP INTO COMMUNI SERVICE AUTOMATICALLWITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A HEARING. JUST TREATS EH OTH OPTIONS EQULY AND PRESERV E RIGHT TOHOOSE A HEARIN I MOV FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO FLOOR SUBSTITUT FOR O-21-69. >>COUN. RREGO:HANK YOU COUNCILOR DAVIS. WEL CONSIDER THAT FLO AMENDMENT MB ONE. PPEA I HEHREE SECOND OR TEE ESTIONS. M NOT SUR IF THOSE ARE SECOND COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT IS A SECO THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>UN. HARRIS: I WANT TO ASK IF THIS ISHE RIGHTDER. DO WE SUSPEN? MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR HARRIS, IORDER TO FINALLY ACT ON TH FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TONIT. THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE H BEEN MOVED. THAT'S BILL BORE YOU. IT CAN B AMENDE AT THIS TIME. YOU'RE GOING TO FINALLY ACT O THAT BILL TONIGHT THEN YOU WLD NEED RUL SUSPENON. IFOUILOR DAVIS'S AMENDNT DOESASS AND THERE IS NULES SUSPENSIONT WOULD SIMPLY TRACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WHE YOU FINALLY VOTE O THE LL. >>UN. HARRIS: THK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOHARRIS, FORHE QUESTION. COUNCILOR BAAN. >>UN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS MORE OF ACOMMENT. I KN IE SPOKENITH OUR STAFF AND ALSOITH THE CITY DEMONSATION, BUT WHERE WANTO MAKE SE TO TELL EVERYON THAT I COMPLETELAM INGREEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AS AN OPTION. LATER ON IN THE PROCESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND I KNOW WVE BEEN DISCUSSING HOW IN THE RULE MAKING PROCESS THA YOU FURE OUT A TIMEFRAME FOR COMPLETE SERVICE TO BE COMPLETED. SOMEONE DOESN'T O INTO COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SEVEN YEARS LATERHEY HAVEN'T DONE IT. IF THEY OPT INTO COMMUNITY SERVICES THEY HAVE 90 DAYS OR WHATEV TO COMPLETE IT. IF IT IS NOT COMPLETED IT VERTS TO A $100 FINE. 'S MY HOPE TO ARRANGE FOR THIS. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A FORMAL AMENDMENT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AN ON THE RECORD TO GO ON THE ROAD LATER. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR PEÑA. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M TRYING TO GET MY MOUSE TO CLICK ON THE UNMUTE BUTTON. I'M WAITING FOR THIS AMENDMENT TO PASS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ACT ON THIS THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR VOTE ON OUR FLOOR AMENDMENT. AND I WILL ALLOW COUNCILOR PEÑA TO MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THE RULE SUSPENSION. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT'S THE ONLY AMENDMENT WE HAVE THIS EVENING. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED TO ACT ON THIS O-69 THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. IT APPEARS FROM YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. THAT A SECOND, COUNCILOR SENA? THANK YOU. ANYWAY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE MOTION FOR THE RULE SUSPENSION. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. IT'S AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED. >>COUN. BORREGO: AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU. I JUST SAW A HAND UP IN THE BUDGET CONFERENCE ROOM. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THAT EARLIER. MR. PADILLA. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON THIS WITH US. AND I WANT TO THANK CHRIS AND THE COUNCIL STAFF FOR HELPING US TIGHTEN UP THE LEGISLATION. YOU'VE BEEN A LOT OF HELP. THANK EVERYBODY FOR WORKING. I WANT TO LET THE COUNCILORS KNOW THAT DURING THE RULE-MAKING PROCESS WE'LL LISTEN TO YOUR CONCERNS AND YOU CAN SEE THE RULES MOVING ACROSS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR.PADILLA. WE HAVE COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS FIRST. I'LL BE REALLY QUICK. I WAS HOPING WE CAN HAVE A -- BEFORE WE WENT TO THE VOTE. IF YOU ALLOW ME A COUPLE OF SECONDS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: I APOLOGIZE, I WAS MOVING PRETTY FAST. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S OKAY. I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION MR.PADILLA. EVERYONE PART OF THIS PROCESS. I WANT TO THANK THE SMALL WORK ING GROUP. WE STARTED IN THIS JOURNEY IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE ISSUES AFFECTING THE COMMUNITIES. WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THERE'S OUTSTANDING ISSUES TO ADDRESS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO MORE QUICKLY IN ORDER TO ADDRESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, CAN YOU MUTE YOURSELF PLEASE? THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COUNCILORS FOR SPEEDING HAS A NAME. THAT'S ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO ADDRESS THIS MAJOR CONCERN IN OUR CITY. AND I WANT TO THANK APD AS WELL FOR THE WORK AND COOPERATION THROUGH THIS. AND OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL STAFF WHICH WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THEM AND JEFF AND EVERYONE ELSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GOING TO THE CLOSE. THIS IS ON THE RADAR FOR QUITE A WHILE. I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO GET THIS DONE. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT YOU HAPPENING -- THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO DO A CLOSE AFTER THE VOTE. I'M PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME. I WANT TO THANK MY CO-SPONSORS FOR BEING IN THAT WORKING GROUP AND YOU MADAM PRESIDENT FOR BEING SUPPORTIVE OF IT. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS. THERE'S A PERCEPTION OF IT THAT IT'S SOMEHOW INTRUSIVE. I SUPPORTED THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM THAT WE HAD IN PLACE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE WRONG ADMINISTRATIVE CALL TO JUST THROW IT OUT. WE REALLY NEED -- WE'VE GOT AN INCREASINGLY AGGRESSIVE GROUP OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS. I THINK WE NEED TO FACE-UP TO THAT. IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SAY THIS AUTOMATED STUFF IS SOME KIND OF MAKING MONEY. NO, WE'VE GOT TO CRACK DOWN ON THE BEHAVIOR IN THE STREETS. THIS IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF IT. WE NEED APD TO DO OTHER PARTS OF IT. I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR BACKED US ON THIS. AND SPECIFICALLY, THE CHIEF BACKED US. UNDER CHIEF GIRE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTIONS. WE NEED EVERY TOOL AT OUR DISPOSAL TO HELP WITH AGGRESSIVE DRIVING. ITAINT GOING TO FIX IT. YOU NEED TO DO MORE THINGS TO FIX IT. I APPRECIATE THE FOLKS AT APD THAT WORKED WITH US AND THE TRAFFIC UNIT AND FIELD SERVICES AND EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY CHIEF MEDINA THAT IS WILLING TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS. THANKS EVERYONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNCILORS THAT GOT TOGETHER WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. AND GAVE YOUR TIME. THIS INVOLVED QUITE A BIT OF TIME. I KNOW YOU HAD COME COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE AS COUNCILORS. THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND COMING TOGETHER TO FIND A SOLUTION. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION. THIS IS, AS COUNCILOR BENTON MENTIONED, THIS IS ONE OF THE AVENUES THAT WILL HELP IN THE FUTURE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO -- I HATE TO SAY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING A TICKET. IT WILL DEFINITELY MAKE ALL OF US THINK TWICE ABOUT OUR SPEED AND OUR -- THE TIME IT TAKES TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. AND BUILD IN THE TIME WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO WE DON'T GET A TICKET. IT ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT SPEEDING. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR THE EFFORT THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY WITH SPEEDING HAS A NAME. THAT DEFINITELY MADE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. I THINK SOME OF THAT IS WHAT LEVRED THIS TO OCCUR TONIGHT. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM B. COUNCILOR BENTON. R-155. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-155 IS NUISANCE STRUCTURE IN NEED OF ABATEMENT. IT'S SO RUINED AND DAMAGED AS TO BE A MENACE TO PUBLIC HEALTH, COMFORT, PEACE AND SAFETY. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. IF I MAY, WE DEFERRED THIS FOR AN ABOUT A MONTH. I WANT TO GIVE TIME, AS ALWAYS, AND THIS COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN DILIGENT IN TRYING TO ENSURE EVERY ACTION IS EXERCISED BEFORE WE TEAR A BUILDING DOWN. ESPECIALLY ONE LIKE THIS IN THE HISTORIC PART OF TOWN. I ASK MR. METZGR TO FILL US IN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, PROGRESS STARTED TO MOVE FORWARD. ACTUALLY, WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE, THE OWNER WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE PROPERTY ON THE CONDITION AND THE PLANS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING IT IN COMPLIANCE. IF YOU DON'T MIND GIVING HER THE FLOOR AND GIVING HER TIME TO SAY WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE MOVED HER INTO THE CHAT. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR INTEREST. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS MS. HENDERSON, I AM REPRESENTING ON BEHALF OF MY SISTER. SHE COULDN'T BE HER TODAY. YES, WE'RE MOVING PROGRESS ON THE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. IT HAD STALLED FOR A LITTLE BIT WHILE OUR CONTRACTOR WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. THAT IS THE REASON FOR WHY PROGRESS STOPPED FOR A WHILE. HE IS GETTING BACK TO IT. HE HAS TALKED WITH A CHRISTIAN TODAY AND SENT HIM AN EMAIL REGARDING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND PROGRESS PENDING COMPLETION. MY SISTER SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU ON LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU GUYS, THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, TO GIVE US TIME AS WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH CONTRACTOR AS HE'S TRYING TO FIT US INTO HIS BUSY SCHEDULE TO GET ALL OF THE STUFF DONE. WE ARE REALLY TRYING. I DO HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION. HE DRAFTED IT UP TODAY AND IS STARTING TO WORK ON IT. THIS WEEK THERE'S MORE WORKDEN. WHAT ARE ASKING FOR MORE TIME TO GET THIS STUFF DONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. HENDERSON. COUNCILOR BENTON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. BENTON: I WANTED TO THANK HER FOR BEING HERE. YES, ANY OF US THAT TRIES TO DO A SMALL PROJECT THESE DAYS IS FACING A LOT OF DELAYS BECAUSE WE NEED MORE YOUNG BUILDERS OUT THERE. COME TALK TO ME. SWINGING THE HAMMER IS A GOOD THING. THAT IS THE NATURE OF THINGS MY SISTER IS TRYING TO GET A SIMPLE ADDITION OF AN ACCESSIBLE BATHROOM TO HER HOME AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET SOMEBODY TO ACTUALLY DO IT. YOU DO HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT IS LOOKING AT THIS, THAT'S A HUME -- HUGE STEP FORWARD. I SAY LET'S COME BACK IN A MONTH AND CHECK IN WITH YOU, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU? THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION FOR A 30-DAY DEFERRAL? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, THAT WOULD BE TO NOVEMBER 3rd. >>COUN. BORREGO: NOVEMBER 3rd. 30 DAYS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, IS THAT A SECOND? THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR A VOIT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. MS. HENDERSON, THAT HAS BEEN DEFERRED FOR 30 DAYS. WE HOPE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU WITH SOME SORT OF SCHEDULE FOR OUR NOVEMBER 3rd MEETING. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. PLEASE ALSO WORK WITH MR. METZGER. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ON ITEM D. THIS IS COUNCILOR BORREGO AND COUNCILOR SENA. R-195. I MOVE A DUE PASS DIRECTOR THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT AGENCY PROVIDE TRAINING COMPLIANCE REPORT FOR MEMBERS OF THE CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE COURT-APPROVED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE CPOA ORDINANCE. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR DAVIS, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. AFTER DISCUSSING THIS RESOLUTION AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO JUMP ON AS CO-SPONSOR TO THE RESOLUTION, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT SOME ADJUSTMENTS BE MADE SINCE THE DATE HAS PASSED. THE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. IT'S ALSO REALLY PUSHING FOR CITY LEGAL TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND ALSO ALLOW OUR CPOA MEMBERS TO COME BACK TO DISCUSS AFTER THE REVIEWING OF THE DOCUMENT FROM CITY LEGAL. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOO, OF COURSE, ON OUR PART THAT WE MAKE THIS REVIEW THAT IMR STATED THE COMPLIANCE TIME AND THE RESOLUTION BROUGHT FORWARD SOME MORE COMMUNICATION WHEN IT COMES TO UPDATED INFORMATION ON TRAINING. I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. THAT'S A MOTION AND I'D MAKE A MOTION. COUNCILOR, I THINK I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CO-SPONSOR. FOR THE RECORD, I'LL JUST SAY THAT. WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL MAKE MY QUESTION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. I THINK MY BROADER QUESTION IS, AND RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A DEFICIENCY IDENTIFIED IN A NUMBER OF REPORTS. I APPRECIATE THIS ISSUE BEING RAISED. QUESTION IS HAS ANYONE JUST ASKED CPOA FOR THE LIST OF TRAINING? I'VE TALKED TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO SAID NO ONE ASKED THEM FOR THIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THIS IS MR. AGUILAR, YES THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR THE TRAINING INFORMATION INCLUDING BY THE MONITORING TEAM AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. WHEN WE WERE NOTIFIED AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST MONTH OF THE DEFICIENCIES AND THE CONCERNOVER A WILLFUL NON-COMPLIANCE WE REACHED TO THE AGENCY AND THE BOARD TO PRODUCE THE DOCUMENTS. WE RECEIVED VARIOUS PRODUCTION OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS WITCH WE INCORPORATED INTO THE ANALYSIS. COUNCILOR SENA, I UNDERSTAND PART OF THE AMENDMENT WE DID CIRCULATE THE ANALYSIS AND REVIEW TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON. >>COUN. DAVIS: IT SOUNDS LIKE, IN MY UNDERSTANDING THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY SUBMITTED IT AND YOU DONE THE ANALYSIS ALREADY? DID I MISUNDERSTAND? >> YES, AND YES. WE'VE DONE OUR OWN ANALYSIS OF HOW WE VIEW THE COMPLIANCE FOR THE IMR14 PERIOD WHICH INDED ON JULY 31. OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL SUBMISSIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO -- WE WILL NOT KNOW IF THOSE SUBMISSIONS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE FINAL MONITORING REPORT IS SUBMITTED WHICH WILL BE NOVEMBER 10th. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU,MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. AGUILA, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M DOING THIS RIGHT. I'M SURE I'M CONFUSING THE ISSUE. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE RECEIVED WHAT YOU CAN FROM THE BOARD AND COMPLETED AN ANALYSIS. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED A SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO REDO WHAT'S BEEN DONE. I WASN'T TO PIGEON HOLD THAT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BELABOR THIS. WE WERE TOLD IN A PREVIOUS MEETING BY SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT MANY OF THE TRAINING RECORDS THEY THAT WERE BEING KEPT BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY THE ACADEMY BECAUSE THE TRAINING WAS COMPLETED AT THE ACADEMY, HAVE WE INQUIRED FROM APD? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, NONE OF THE TRAINING THAT IS DEFICIENT IS HELD OR HOUSED AT THE ACADEMY. THE AGENCY IS TASKED AND RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING TRACK OF ITS OWN TRAINING RECORDS. UNDER OUR REVIEW AND ANALYSIS FOR THIS PERIOD WHICH HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE MONERRING TEAM THE BOARD IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL STOP AND SAY, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT IF YOU ANTICIPATE WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION THEY'LL CREATE A NEW RECORD? OR HAVE WE DONE THIS WORK AND JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT -- >> MAYBE I CAN HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE A COUPLE OF CONSIDERATIONS. THE FIRST IS YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THE BOARD DID SUBMIT A TRAINING REPORT. THAT WAS WHAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION DID. THAT WAS SUBMITTED. THEY DID IT TIMELY AND IN ADVANCE. ONCE THAT REPORT WAS SUBMITTED, THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE THAT REPORT EVALUATED. THIS RESOLUTION AMENDMENT WOULD DIRECT CITY LEGAL TO EVALUATE THAT REPORT. THEY ALSO HAVE DONE. THEY ARE ALSO IN THE GETTING AHEAD OF THE CURVE GAME. HOWEVER, WHAT THIS RESOLUTION ALSO CALLS FOR IS TO GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE REPORT THAT MR. AGUILR'S OFFICE HAS PREPARED. THAT REPORT DID COME TO ME EARLY THIS AFTERNOON AND I REVIEWED IT PRELIMINARY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY REVIEW THAT AND GIVEN THAT IT JUST CAME IN TODAY, THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ON THE 18th. THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE OF WHICH IS THAT REPORT HAS ALSO NOT BEEN CIRCULATED TO THE CPOA BOARD, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND IT SEEMS FITTING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES A JUDGMENT ABOUT THEIR REPORT VERSUS WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DISCOVERED. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE ASKED AND WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED AND WE GOT THE ANALYSIS. I THINK WE'RE BETTER SUITED TO ASK TO GET THE INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK AND PUT IT AS A PRESENTATION ITEM. IT SEEMS WE'RE WRITING A LAW TO DO THE THING YOU ALREADY DID AND EVERYONE TURNED THEIR HOMEWORK IN ON TIME. I GUESS IT DOESN'T HURT IT IF NEEDS TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING ABOUT IT. ANYWAY, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THE MESSAGING AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT FINGER POINTING AND BLAME THAT SOMEONE DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB OR SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS ADDITIONAL OVER SIGHT INSTEAD OF US SITTING DOWN AND WORKING ON SOLUTIONS. THAT'S MY CRITICISM IS WE COULD HAVE JUST ASKED AND WE DID AND WE GOT WHAT WE WANTED AND WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE WE PASS LAWS THAT DICTATE WHAT PEOPLE SHALL DO WHEN THEY ALREADY DONE IT. I'M CONCERNED -- I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT. I'LL VOTE FOR THE RESOLUTION. I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO THIS CYCLE OF LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO BLAME INSTEAD OF DOING THE TOUGH WORK. I THINK THERE'S BLAME ALL AROUND. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT'S MY SOAPBOX. THAT'S MY ONE FOR THE DAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND TO COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YES, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR HOMEWORK ON TIME. WE HAVE A REPORT, THANK GOODNESS ABOUT THIS PUT TOGETHER BY THE CITY ATTORNEY NOT BY THE BOARD. IT PRETTY CLEARLY SHOWS THE BOARD IS WAY BEHIND IN MEETING THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDER, NOT SO MUCH OUR REQUIREMENT, BUT THE SETTLEMENT'S REQUIREMENT. I THINK THIS BILL HAS SERVED A PURPOSE. IT'S GOTTEN THEIR ATTENTION. I THINK THEY NEED TO GET A GREAT DEAL OF ATTENTION. WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE ON THE BOARD. THESE ARE BASIC REQUIREMENTS OF THE CASA AND THEY NEED TO BE MET. AND WITHOUT QUESTIONING WHERE THEY TURN IT INTO IT'S INTERNAL TO THE AGENCY. THE BOARD NEEDS TO TALK TO THEIR DIRECTOR INSTEAD OF SQUABBLING WITH HIM. THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE VERY CLEAR. YOU CAN TALK TO THE LOCAL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT. I KNOW MOST COUNCILORS HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS BILL. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT AT THIS POINT. I APPRECIATE PRESIDENT FOR PUTTING IT FORWARD BECAUSE IT GOT THEIR ATTENTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FOR ME I'M LOOKING FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THE CPOA. I REALLY WISH THIS RESOLUTION WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE KNOWN SINCE IMR13 OF THE INCOMPLIANCE. AND MAYBE EVEN A BIT BEFORE THAT. IT WASN'T UNTIL THIS RESOLUTION WAS PRODUCED THAT WE GOT MORE INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION WHEN IT COMES TO TRAINING THAT THE MONITORING TEAM HAD NO ACCESS TO OR DIDN'T KNOW OF OR WAS NOT AWARE OF EITHER. I THINK THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS RESOLUTION BUT IN ORDER TO GET THEM INTO COMPLIANCE AS WELL BECAUSE I STATED WHEN WE CONFRONT OUR NEW CPOA MEMBER THIS BOARD IS INDEPENDENT BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALSO ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CASA AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE. THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE. THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE CASA. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND UNDERSTAND AND THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MISCOMMUNICATION, WHAT CAN WE MAKE THE PROCESS BETTER AND HAVING OUR BOARD MEMBERS COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND IS IT AN ISSUE OF REPORTING. OF COURSE, WE'RE HEARING THOSE ISSUES AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT A MORE SUSTAINABLE AGENCY. LIKE COUNCILOR BENTON WAS SAYING, THE -- WHEN WE HAVE OVER 300 COMPLAINTS AND YET ONLY 22 CASES BEING CLOSED AND HAVING TO EXTEND CONSTANTLY IN TERMS OF CASES THAT'S NOT DUE PROCESS TO OFFICERS AND IT'S NOT DUE PROCESS TO THOSE ISSUING COMPLAINTS. IT'S ALSO UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS REQUIRED OF BOARD MEMBERS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TRAINING. I JUST WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS RESOLUTION, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT, I BELIEVE THE IMR IS EFFICIENT ENOUGH REMINDING MEMBERS THEY'RE NOT DOING DUE DILIGENT. AND ON OUR INNED END -- THEY'RE ALREADY TRYING TO ADDRESS ON OUR END IN TERMS OF ORDINANCE JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE A BOARD THAT'S NOT JUST SO OVERBURDENED WHEN COMES TO TRAINING. I WON'T STRESS ON THAT POINT TOO MUCH BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S LOT OF WORK WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO. HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS. ESPECIALLY WHAT WAS PRODUCED TO US AND WHAT IS THE MONITORING TEAM GETTING AND WHY IS IT THAT THEY'RE DIFFERENT. AT LEAST CIRCLE BACK TO THE AGENCY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CHECK ALL OF OUR BOXES AND REVIEW ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS AND JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IS THE MISCOMMUNICATION IF THERE IS ANY. THAT'S IMPORTANT. TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS OUR MONITORING TEAM RECEIVING AND WHAT IS THE AGENCY RECEIVING. AND WHY THIS IS MISCOMMUNICATION. THAT'S WHY THIS RESOLUTION IS NECESSARY AND THIS AMENDMENT IS HAVING US COME BACK AND REVIEW THIS AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS. OF COURSE THEY'RE ALWAYS INVITED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL. IT WASN'T UNTIL THIS RESOLUTION WE HAVE HAD MORE OF A RESPONSE. >>COUN. BENTON: QUICK QUESTION. WE SAW IN THE REPORT THAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH THAT NUMEROUS MEMBERS HAD STATED THAT THEY PUT IN THEIR INFORMATION THAT WAS STILL PENDING FROM DR. GINGER. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, YES AND NO. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED WHAT THEY HAVE REPRESENTED AS VERIFICATION OF COMPLETION OF THE TRAINING. WE WILL NOT KNOW WHETHER THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED ACCEPTABLE TO THE MONITOR UNTIL THE FINAL REPORT COMES OUT. HISTORY TELLS US AND THE REPRESENTATIONS FROM MEMBERS OF THE MONITORING TEAM THAT THEY WILL BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE IN IMR14. THAT IS ONLY FOCUSED ON THE CASA-RELATED OBLIGATIONS. THERE'S A SEPARATE BUCKET OF TRAINING. >>COUN. BENTON: DEFINITELY. IN SOME OF THOSE IT WAS UNKNOWN WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT, ALTHOUGH THE BOARD MEMBER HAD STATED THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD COMPLIED AND BEEN SUBMITTED. PRIMARILY, I FOCUS ON GETTING OUT OF THE SETTLEMENT SOMEDAY. THAT WOULD BE FOR THE MONITOR TO DECIDE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS -- WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHEN THOSE ARE ACCEPTABLE OR NOT. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLUG IN THE PIPELINE. >> WE'LL KNOW NOVEMBER 10th WHEN THE FINAL IMR14 IS RELEASED. I WILL AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS COUNCILOR DAVIS MADE. I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FINGER POINTING AND I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUES ARE WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF THE DEFICIENCY, WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF THE ISSUE AND HOW DO WE MOVE ON PAST THAT? I WILL SAY WITH RESPECT TO CENTRALIZED TRAINING, THE AGENCY WILL NO LONGER TAKE ACCOUNT OF THAT. IT HAS BEEN THAT THEY ARE MOVING ALL OF THE TRAINING MODULES TO THE CITY'S TRAINING PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE AN ABILITY TO SEE WHO IS SIGNING ON AND WATCHING THE VIDEOS. THERE WILL BE A SHORT QUIZ AFTERWARDS. THAT WILL RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT IT'S ALSO THE COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THIS BOARD IS FUNCTIONING. THE TRAINING IS NOT A MATTER OF CHECKING THE BOX, IT GIVES THE MEMBERS CRITICAL INSIGHT INTO WHAT APD FACES ON A DAILY BASES. IT PROVIDES THEM WITHSTANDERED OPERATING PROCEDURES, AND TRAINING UNDER THE CASA. IT'S THAT IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS IN A LOT OF WAYS HOLDING THE LIVES OF THESE OFFICERS IN THEIR HANDS WHEN THEY'RE GOING ABOUT THEIR WORK. IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. WE'LL STAY ENGAGED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. MADAM PRESIDENT, WITHOUT QUESTION, WE HAVE OUR END OF THE DEAL TO HOLD UP. WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CLARIFICATION THAT ARE NEEDED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. WE'VE AMENDED IT BEFORE, WE CAN AMEND IT AGAIN. EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE HAS BEEN IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE DOJ SETTLEMENT AND CASA STATES AND WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO THESE PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME. IT TAKES A LOT TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD. AND I THINK THERE'S DISCUSSIONS THIS COUNCIL SHOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE ABOUT HELPING THEM BE SUCCESSFUL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE JUST APPOINTED ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THIS EVENING WHO REALLY DID HIS HOMEWORK IN TERMS OF GETTING UP TO SPEED ON THE INSIGHTS OF THE REPORTING. ESPECIALLY AS HE WAS GRILLED BY ALL OF US AND QUESTIONED ABOUT HIS COMMITMENT. THAT DOESN'T GO TO SAY THAT OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T COMMITTED, IT'S JUST THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THEY NEED TO OBTAIN IN ORDER TO STAY ON THE BOARD AND TO CONTINUE ON THAT BOARD. I THINK THAT WE SEE THAT WHEN WE DO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR WE DO ANY OF THE OTHER BOARDS THE MUSEUM BOARD OR THE OPEN SPACE BOARD, THERE ARE CERTAIN COMMITMENTS AND IF THOSE COMMITMENTS ARE NOT BEING MET, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW. I THINK THAT IS REALLY WHAT THIS BILL IS ABOUT IS WHAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HOW DO WE GET THERE AND HOW DO WE GAIN THE COMPLIANCE THAT WE NEED TO OBTAIN. IF THE MONITOR'S REPORT IS TELLING US THERE'S THINGS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN MET THEN WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY. UNLESS COUNCILOR SENA HAS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADD, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THE AMENDMENT. AND TAKE THE VOTE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE AMENDMENT AND THE BILL. WITH THAT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. R-195. COUNCILOR SENA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I PRETTY MUCH STATED A LOT OF THE INFORMATION AS TO WHY THIS RESOLUTION IS IMPORTANT. OF COURSE WHY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THESE RESOLUTIONS. AS WAS STATED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO DO THEIR JOB AND LIKE I SAID WE WANT A SUSTAINABLE CPOA AND IN THE EVENT THE MONITOR LEAVES THAT THE CPOA IS ABLE TO TAKE OVER. WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO HAVE Ph.D.s AND BECOME DOCTORS. HOWEVER WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND POLICY AND PROCEDURES ENOUGH TO MAKE THOSE CRITICAL RECOMMENDATIONS A TO WHY POLICIES NEED TO BE CHANGED TO BRING ABOUT MORE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THIS PROCESS TO BEGIN WITH. THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T STRESS IT ENOUGH IN TERMS OF WHY WE PUSH FOR THESE TRAININGS. AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE COGNIZANT OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHEN IT IS VOLUNTEER. NO OTHER BOARD BESIDES ETC REALLY COMMITMENTS THE TIME. FOR THE CPOA IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT BOARD AND AGENCY THAT PROVIDES CRITICAL EVALUATIONS IN TERMS OF POLICY. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS RESOLUTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I THINK YOU ALREADY HEARD WHAT I HAD TO SAY. I THINK THE FINGER POINTS NEEDS TO STOP. I THINK WE WANT COMPLIANCE. THAT'S MY CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK COUNCILOR BENTON IS FROZEN. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. R-202. >>COUN. DAVIS: THIS IS COUNCILOR BENTON'S DISTRICT. I'LL LET HIM PRESENT IF HE HAS CONNECTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A BAD CONNECTION. DID THEY RECORD MY VOTE? >>COUN. BORREGO: IT WAS A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: YEAH. THONG -- >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS APPROVING THE PETITION OF THE REGENT OF UNM THROUGH LOBO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND NEW MEXICO NON-PROFIT CORPORATION FOR THE RESEARCH OF THE SOUTH CAMPUS TAX INCREMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION THAT WE ARE NOW OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL START WITH A BRIEF PRESENTATION BY ACTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND KEN MURPHY WITH THE LOBO DEVELOPMENT GROUP. WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO OUR PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF TIM IS PRESENT. >> THANK YOU, YES, I AM PRESENT. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION. DAMIAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FEW REMARKSES? >> WHY DON'T YOU START AND I CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THEY'RE FURTHER DOWN AND I CAN TAKE OVER FROM THERE. >> OKAY. VERY GOOD. MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BEAR WITH ME. >> WE CAN MOVE PAST THE SLIDES AND MR. MOYA WILL MOVE THEM. >> I WAS LOOKING TO SEE IF I HAVE CONTROL. >> NO, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY. JUST TELL US WHEN YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. MR. AM -- WILL MOVE IT FORWARD. >> VERY GOOD. YES, LET ME JUST MOVE THROUGH QUICKLY. THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL PRESENTATION. LET JUST TALK A BIT ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THIS TAX INCRETMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'LL SEE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT SHORTLY. IT ENCOMPASSES THE UNIVERSITY AND CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ON SOUTH CAMPUS WITH THE ADDITIONAL OF SMALL TRACTS OF LAND ON MAIN CAMPUS AND CENTRAL AVENUE. BASICALLY, AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME. BUT, WE ALSO HAVE AN AREA THAT HAS SUBSTANTIAL PUBLIC INVESTMENT ALREADY. WE'RE ESTIMATING SOMEWHERE AROUND $400 MILLION, PERHAPS MORE, IN BOTH UNIVERSITY AND CITY AND COUNTY STATE INVESTMENT. THE TID WILL CONTINUE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY ON THIS MAJOR EMPLOYMENT ATHLETIC AND ENTERTAINMENT COMPLEX. WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND RESEARCH FACILITIES THAT WILL CREATE NEW JOBS. WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AN ENHANCED SOUTHERN GATEWAY INTO THE CITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE NEEDED COMMERCIAL SERVICES FOR FACILITY AND AMENITIES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS TIDD IS UNIQUE AMONG ALL THE TIDD HAS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED AND MANY OF WHICH OCCUR SEVERAL OCCUR IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP. IT'S A GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT-DRIVEN ENDEAVOR. THROUGH BOTH THE CITY AND THE UNIVERSITY USING LOBO DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ARM OF THE REGENTS FULLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE REGENTS. WE'RE COMBINING PUBLIC RESOURCES TO CREATE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SECTOR ACTIVITIES. WE'RE CREATING NEW TAX REVENUE TO FUND PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT WILL ALSO ENABLE PRIVATE INVESTMENT. AND ANOTHER REALLY UNIQUE ASPECT OF THIS IS TIDD IS BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP ASPECT OF IT WE CAN ADDRESS ADDITIONAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AND INVESTMENT BEYOND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN A TIDD. LARGELY, TIDDS ARE PRIVATE SECTOR DRIVEN. THEY'RE FOCUSED ON INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ATTRACTS PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE'VE INCLUDED THAT AS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR TIDD. THIS PARTNERSHIP ALLOWS US TO GO BEYOND THAT AND PROVIDE MONEY FOR REGIONAL TRANSIT AND RECREATIONAL TRAILS AND PUBLIC SAFETY. THESE ITEMS ARE TYPICALLY NOT ADDRESSED IN A PRIVATE SECTOR DRIVEN TIDD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. >> I THINK THOSE ARE BIG PRIORITY FOR INRESIDENTS IN ALBUQUERQUE INCLUDING THOSE COUNCILORS HERE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BUS RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM ALONG UNIVERSITY AND LEVERAGING THAT PARTNERSHIP TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING TO MAKE THAT A CORRIDOR AND IMPROVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE MESA DEL SOL AND DEVELOPMENT HAPPENEDENING THERE AND ENSURING WE HAVE A RAPID TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT IS PROVIDING THIS AND THE MESA DEL SOL TIDD. WE HAVE SOME OF THE OPEN SPACES, BUT PARTICULARLY THE TRAILS ON BUENA VISTA. AND THE HEALTH AND PUBLIC SAFETY. AS YOU SEE WE HAVE FIRE STATIONS INCLUDED TO ENSURE WE'RE PROVIDING THE NECESSARY SECURITY AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE ADDED COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS HAPPENING THERE. THAT INCLUDES A FIRE STATION, ADDITIONAL SUBSTATION AND PERHAPS OUR SHOT SPOTTER WHICH IS ONE OF THE REAL-CRIME SYSTEMS TO ENSURE WE HAVE RAPID RESPONSES TO ANY SHOTS WITHIN A 45-YARD RADIUS. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE PART OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REALLY PUBLIC INVESTMENTS THAT YOU NORMALLY WOULDN'T SEE IN ANOTHER TIDD BUT WE CAN REVOLOG THE -- LEVERAGE THE SAME INCREMENTS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION AND PROVIDING THAT ESSENTIAL DETAILS. THIS NEXT SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE BOUNDARIES MAP DISTRICT COMPRISES 337 ACRES. LARGELY UNIVERSITY LAND, BUT SOME SIGNIFICANT LAND BY THE CITY INCLUDING THE FIRE STATION, AND FORMER APS LAND SOUTH OF LOEL. THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL SEGMENTATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS IDENTIFYING THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY PARK AT THE NORTH END FOR ABOUT 800,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW SPACE. WE CALL LOBO VILLAGE AND ENTERTAINMENT WHICH IS ALONG CESAR CHAVEZ. ALMOST 500,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE. AND SOME OF THESE NUMBERS I NEED TO QUALIFY. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ALSO INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT PARKING STRUCTURES. THOSE NUMBERS THAT I'VE JUST QUOTED INCLUDE THE PARKING STRUCTURES. GIBSON TOWN CENTER, SOUTH OF THE PIT AND SOUTH OF THE BASEBALL COMPLEX. ABOUT 500,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE THERE. NOT SHOWN IS THE CENTRAL CAMPUS GATEWAY AT UNIVERSITY AND CENTRAL AVENUE AND AT GIRARD AND CENTRAL AVENUE, ABOUT 700,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE. THE OTHER MAJOR LAND USE AREAS ARE THE ATHLETICS AND STUDENT PARKING AND EVENT PARKING WHICH ARE SHOWN IN THE CENTER OF THE ILLUSTRATION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS A DETAILED PLAN SHOWING OUR PLANNED LAND USE AND I WON'T GO THROUGH IT IN ANY DETAIL. IT'S A TRUE MIX OF MIXED USE PROJECT WITH OFFICES, RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT FACILITIES AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY PARK, SEVERAL PARKING STRUCTURES, AND RETAIL WILL DRIVE GROSS RESETS AND PROPERTY TAX THAT WILL ALLOW US TO FURTHER INVEST INTO THE SCIENCE AND TAUL PARK. HOTEL, ENTERTAINMENT, MIXED USE, RESIDENTIAL, RECREATION TRAILS AND TRANSPORTATION. NEXT SLIDE. MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THIS, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN SOME TIME COMING. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO IN 2018. WITH A JOINT FEASIBILITY MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY AND CITY TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF A TAX INCREMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THAT STUDY PRODUCED RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. A PRELIMINARY TIDD APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION IN JUNE OF 2019. CITY COUNCIL ACTED ON AN INTENT RESOLUTION IN DECEMBER OF 20, NON-BINDING RESOLUTION IN DECEMBER OF 2019 BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION. AND A FINAL JOINT TIDD PETITION AND APPLICATION WAS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED ON MARCH OF THIS YEAR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS JUST RECOUNTS WHAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN FOR THE FORMAL JOINT APPLICATION. WE HAD AN INTENT RESOLUTION THAT WAS PASSED IN AUGUST. WE HAVE THE HEARING TODAY ON THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICT. THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE CONSIDERATION OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT SOME POINT SUBSEQUENT TO THIS HEARING. AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH BOARD OF REGENTS APPROVAL OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PARALLEL WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULED FOR THE 19th OF OCTOBER. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE TIDD RIV -- REVENUE. YOU CAN SEE THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE COUNTY AND STATE. WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF ABOUT $336 MILLION IN REVENUE OVER 25-YEAR TERM OF THE TIDD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. BUT STILL AT A HIGH LEVEL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FUNDED. WE'VE BROKEN THEM INTO SUBDELIGZ LEVEL IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE THINGS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FURTHER DEVELOP THE LAND. ABOUT $19 MILLION FOR THAT. THE OTHER CATEGORY IS WHAT WE CALL AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE ARE TRAILS AND BIKE PATHS BECAUSE THE UNIVERSITY IS A PUBLIC ENTITY, AND OF COURSE THE CITY IS ALSO A PUBLIC ENTITY, WE CAN INCORPORATE PUBLIC PAR Z S AND PLAZAS AND FUND THEM WITH THE TIDD BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE PUBLIC ENTITIES. BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS ARE EXPANSION OF BUILDING FACILITIES AT THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY PARK THAT WILL DRIVE JOB CREATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE NUMBER A COUPLE PARKING STRUCTURES. AND ABOUT 260,000 SQUARE FEET OF R&D AND OFFICE SPACE. THE REGIONAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE UNIQUE. THOSE INCLUDE POTENTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD I-25 INTERCHANGES AND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION. AS DAMIAN SAID, THE RAPID TRANSIT LINE ON UNIVERSITY BOULE VARRED. WE'VE GOT FUNDS FOR REGIONAL RECREATIONAL AND ENERGY CONSERVATION. THOSE TOTAL $267 MILLION. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS INDICATED ARE DEFINITELY IN THERE. UNDER THOSE AMENITY IMPROVEMENTS THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS. ADDITIONAL LIGHTING PROCESS, PRIME -- IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE WAY. WE ANTICIPATE THAT AS THAT THE INCREASES AND WALK ABILITY WHY WILL HAVE THOSE UNDER THE AMENITY FOR ENSURING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE'S A SNAPSHOT OF THE DISTRICT FINANCING. LIKE MANY OF THE TIDDS, WE'RE GOING TO USE A COMBINATION OF SOURCES THAT INCLUDE WHAT'S CALLED SHORT-TERM BONDS OR SPONGE BONDS. THOSE WILL BE ISSUED SEVERAL TIMES, MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT. AT VARIOUS TIMES WHEN THE REVENUE STREAMS HAVE BEEN PERFECTED AND UNDERWRITING IS INDICATES THAT LONG-TERM BONDS CAN BE ISSUED THAT WILL BE DONE ABOUT $90 MILLION FOR LONG-TERM BONDS. THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF DIRECT PAY WHICH ACCORDING TO THE BOUND COUNSEL CAN BE PROVIDED DIRECTLY FROM EITHER THE CITY OR COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR PERHAPS DAMIAN CAN ASSIST WITH ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE IS, FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT TIDD AND LOT ALL OF THE DETAILS. CAN YOU CLARIFY IF THE EVENTUALLY TENETS WILL PAY TAXES EVEN THOUGH IT'S PUBLICLY-OWNED LAND? >> YES, THE LARGE PART OF THE REVENUE WILL COME FROM GROSS RECEIPTS TAX OPERATING WITHIN THE DISTRICT. PROPERTY TAX WILL BE PAID ON PRIVATE-OWNED IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BUILT WITHIN THE DISTRICT AS WELL. THE LAND AS YOU INDICATE WILL BE TAX-EXEMPT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ONE MORE. I CAN'T NOT ASK IT. WHAT KIND OF ATHLETIC AND EVENTS ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING HERE? >> WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PLAN THAT WILL SPECIFICALLY GO TOWARD UNIVERSITY ATHLETIC EVENTS. HOWEVER, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF ENTERTAINMENT IS PRIVATE SECTOR ENTERTAINMENT. RESTAURANTS, OTHER KINDS OF FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, POSSIBLY A THEATER. OTHER KINDS OF -- THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF NEW MODELS OF NEW ENTERTAINMENT. WE'D LIKE TO SEE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT EITHER LIVE OR NEARBY OR ARE GOING TO COME TO THIS DISTRICT AND THEY NEED A REASON TO STAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS SPORTING EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE ARE ANTICIPATED TO ONLY BELONG TO UNM ATHLETES? OR IS THAT A PRIVATE THING CAN HAPPEN TOO? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS CLEAR ON SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT ARE NOT LINKED TO THIS BECAUSE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S DONE FOR UNM BY UNM FOR THE STUDENTS AND ATHLETES I'M NOT ARGUING THAT, IT MAKES SENSE. I JUST KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ASK IF WE ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT THEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START ASKING WHY CAN'T SOCCER HAPPEN HERE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE RECREATION THAT'S PLANNED FOR THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW WILL EITHER BE PRIVATE-SECTOR DRIVEN OR THEY'LL BE PUBLIC-OWNED AND AVAILABLE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING, THE PLAN DOES NOT ANTICIPATE THAT FUNDS FROM DISTRICT WILL BE USED FOR EITHER UNIVERSITY FACILITIESORY ANY OTHER ATHLETIC VENUES. THE PLAN DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER COUNCILORS WITH THEIR HANDS UP. THERE YOU ARE COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL TRY AND SEE IF MY CONNECTION REMAINS. MR. MURPHY, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE MAP IT DOES SHOW THAT FINGER THAT GOES TOWARD BUENA VISTA WHICH IS CITY, NOW IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, IT'S GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL AMENITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE AND TO LOELL ELEMENTARY. IT'S A CONNECTION TO THE MAIN DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE GIBSON TOWN CENTER PORTION. I APPRECIATE THE UNIVERSITY PUTTING THAT IN. THAT WAS AT MY REQUEST. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU AND WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THAT AMENITY IN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. IT WILL BE ABSOLUTE BENEFIT TO THE PROJECT AND PEDESTRIAN IN THE COMMUNITY. THANKS FOR THAT. ALL IN ALL, THIS PROMISES QUITE A BIT OF MERCANTILE AND PEDESTRIAN AMINTIES THAT AN AREA IS UNDERSERVED BY THAT KIND OF AMENITIES. I WOULD JUST SAY I HOPE AS YOU LOOK FOR TENANTS THAT THE FIRST ON YOUR LIST ARE ALBUQUERQUE BUSINESSES. AND NEW MEXICO BUSINESSES. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. BENTON: SURE, I'LL MOVE THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE FLOOR SUB? I DON'T SEE ANY. COUNCILOR BENTON, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING REGARDING THAT? >>COUN. BENTON: WELL, THE FLOOR SUBIS AN UPDATE. IT'S MOSTLY TECHNICAL CHANGES AS FAR AS I KNOW. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. MURPHY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S UPDATING SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE WHEN THROUGH. THEY'RE ALL TECHNICAL CHANGES. NOSE SUBITANTATIVE CHANGES TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: I SEE THAT MR. MEREHEAD POPPED IN. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, PLEASE, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK HIM. I WILL FOR THE RECORD THAT COUNCILOR HARRIS HAD TO LEAVE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THE FLOOR SUBPASSES. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BEFORE WE VOTED, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY COMMENT. I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND UNM. I WAS RECENTLY GRANTED TO GARNET STOKES PRESIDENT OF UNM AND GO LOBOS. AND I JUST EXPRESSED MY ANXIOUSNESS OF SEEING THE BILL ON THE AGENDA AND THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WE CAN DEVELOP FOR THIS AREA. I KNOW COUNCILOR BENTON HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS AREA FOR LONG TIME. COUNCILOR BENTON, I'LL JUST MENTION AND GIVE YOU A REMINDER ABOUT THE RAIL RUNNER SPUR TO THE AIRPORT. I THINK IT WAS THE LATE 90s WE HAD THAT STUDY IN THE AREA. IT TAKES LONG TIME, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S ALSO POTENTIAL THERE, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE. THANK YOU, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I ALSO -- BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, WE ARE NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'RE ON OUR LAST ORDER OF BUSINESS. COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR BORREGO, AND COUNCILOR SENA. R-205. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILOR SENA OR COUNCILOR BENTON WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS? >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS LARGELY THE WORK OF THE ADMINISTRATION. I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE WE'VE HAD BEFORE US. AND A PAINFUL ONE TIMES AND CERTAINLY COMPLEX IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION OUGHT TO GET THE KICKOFF ON THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL REMIND US THIS IS ACKNOWLEDGING AND RECOGNIZING THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL CEMETERY AT 4H PARK AS A HISTORICAL AND SACRED BURIAL SITE. AND THE TRAUMA EXPERIENCED BY NATIVE-AMERICAN INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND TRIBAL NATIONS AS A RESULT OF INDIAN SCHOOL POLICIES AND WORKING WITH THE TRIBAL POLICIES TO RECONCILIATION. >> HI COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR HEARING. I WILL JUST REALLY TURN THIS OVER ONE OF THE LEADERS IN OUR ADMINISTRATION ON THIS TOPIC. HE'S OUR TRIBAL LIAZ -- LIAISON. AND THIS IS, AS USUAL, ALBUQUERQUE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE NATIONAL NARRATIVE. WE REALLY HAVE TO CARVE OUR OWN PATH AND RECOGNIZE THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE SITE. THE EARLIER EFFORTS, ALTHOUGH IMPERFECT THAT THE CITY IN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS DID MAKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T ENOUGH AND THERE'S MORE TO BE DONE. I THINK OUR TEAM HAS REALLY NAVIGATED THAT PATH IN A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND RESPECTFUL WAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. BEGAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. MS. BEGAY, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YES, AT THE END OF JUNE PARKS AND REC AWARDED OUR OFFICE SOCIAL MEDIA WAS ANNOUNCED A PLAQUE AT THE 4H PARK WENT MISSING. WHEN WE FOUND OUT WHAT IT WAS, IT WAS TO ACKNOWLEDGE H4 PARK AS BEING A FINAL RESTING PLACE FOR ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL STUDENTS. THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY WAS THE ONE WHO REMOVED THE PLAQUE. WE DID INVESTIGATION AND WE REALIZED IT WAS MISSING AND IT WASN'T AT THE ACTION OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THIS ALERTED THE CITY A LARGER ISSUE THAT A CITY PARK WAS BUILT OVER A CEMETERY. WE LOOKED FOR MORE INFORMATION AND SEE HOW IT EVOLVED. A LOT OF WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS THAT THE NEW SCHOOL CEMETERY WAS ACTIVE FROM 1888 TO 1930. THIS WAS MAINTAINED BY THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL. HOW IT CAME INTO POSSESSION IS IN THE 1960s THE DIA CONVERTED THE 7 ACRES TO BERNALILLO COUNTY. AT THAT TIME THEY ESTABLISHED THE NEW MEXICO HIGHLAND OFFICE, THE 4H CENTER AND RODEO GROUND. WITHIN THAT SAME YEAR OTHER LAND TRANSACTIONS OCCURRED BETWEEN THE BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS AND CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. THIS IS PART OF THE MENAUL EXPANSION. THE CITY SUBLEASED ABOUT 3 ACRES OF IT. THAT ENDED UP BECOMING THE 4H PARK. WE HAVE CITY SURVEYS OF THE AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THE EXACT LOCATION AND DIMENSIONS OF THE CEMETERY. OTHER THAN A FEW MAPS WE DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE SITE ITSELF. IN 1973 WHEN SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS WENT TO INSTALL IRRIGATIONS REMAINS WERE UNCOVERED. WE ONLY KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL REPORTED ON THE INCIDENT. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL CITY RECORDS ABOUT WHO IS THERE, WHETHER OR NOT THE REMAINS ARE STILL THERE, OR ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CEMETERY ITSELF. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS THE INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL STARTED OUT IN 1819 AS PART OF THE INDIAN CIVILIZATION FUND ACT WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DELIBERATELY CONTRACTED WITH CHURCHES TO CIVILIZE AMERICAN INDIAN CHILDREN AND TO COMMITMENT CULTURAL GENOCIDE BY STRIPPING OF THE LANGUAGE, CULTURE AND TRADITIONS. THIS INCLUDES THE ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL. MUCH OF THIS CREATED A LOT OF INTERGENERATIONAL AND HISTORICAL TRAUMA THAT PASSES FROM EACH GENERATION. SOME OF THE SPECIFICS I PULLED IS BY 192 83% WERE ENROLLED IN INDIAN SCHOOLS. ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL WAS HOUSING UP TO 300 STUDENTS BY THE EARLY 1990s. 1181-THROUGH 1981. A LOT OF THE RECORDS WERE LOST. WE DO NOT HAVE AN ACCOUNT OF THE IDENTITIES OF THE STUDENTS. WE DO NOT HAVE AN ACCOUNT OF THE TRIBAL AFFILIATIONS OF THE STUDENTS WHO WERE BURIED THERE. AND SO, THAT WAS REALLY WHAT SPARKED A CONVERSATION BETWEEN PARKS AND REC, OUR OFFICE AND THE COMMISSION ON AMERICAN INDIAN AND ALASKA NATIVE AFFAIRS. IT DIDN'T SEEM GOOD JUST TO REPLACE THE PLAQUE. OUR EFFORTS WAS TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE AND TO REALLY LOOK AT COMMUNITY INPUT. TO SET WHAT SHOULD THE FUTURE OF THE SITE BE. MEETING WITH THE COMMISSION, THEY DEVELOPED THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATION MEMO TO THE ADMINISTRATION. WE HAD A STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WHERE THEY PUT TOGETHER A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT WAS ONE FOR THE BURRIER SITE. THE CITY SHOULD TAKE INVESTIGATION FOR THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE AND THE CONSEQUENCES FOR INDIAN BOARDING SCHOOL. AND ALSO FOR THE INVESTIGATION TO CONFIRM THE IDENTITIES AND TRIBAL AFFILIATIONS OF THE CHILDREN AT THIS SITE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SITE AS A CEMETERY AND CLOSE IT DOWN TO RECREATIONAL USE. RIGHT NOW IT IS STILL A PARK AVAILABLE FOR RECREATIONAL USE ON TOP OF THE SEM TEAR. TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT RELEVANT INFORMATION AND HISTORICAL RECORDS AND TO REVEAL THE TRUTH OF THE HISTORY ABOUT THIS SITE AND THE IMPACT ITS HAD ON NATIVE COMMUNITIES. AND TO INCLUDE A LOT OF THE DESCENDANTS OF ALBUQUERQUE INDIAN SCHOOL ORGANIZATIONS, NON-PROFITS, FEDERAL ORGANIZATIONS, STATE ORGANIZATIONS AND TRIBES ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEPS FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS SITE. PART OF OUR TRIBAL CONSULTATIONS IS WE REACHED OUT TO NAVAJO, OR THE INITIAL EIGHT TRIBES SURROUNDING ALBUQUERQUE AND ALSO THOSE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAQUE THAT IS NOW MISSING WHICH INCLUDED NAVAJO PUEBLO AND APACHE THAT FROM OTHER INVESTIGATIONS WE FOUND OUT INCLUDED PIMA FROM ARIZONA AND UTES FROM ARIZONA AND MOST OF THE STUDENTS THAT WERE THERE WERE FROM DISTANT AREAS. IF THEY BECAME SICK OR ILL OR WERE THEY PASSED AWAY THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO BE TRANSPORTED BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES. SO THEY WERE BURIED AT ONE OF THE LOCAL SITES. WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN THE TRIBAL CONSULTATIONS. THE FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE FUTURE OF THE SITE SHOULD ADDRESS CULTURAL CONCERNS IN TERMS OF DOING INVASIVE EXCAVATION OR NON-INVEVASIVE EXCAVATION. AND THE FUTURE PROTECTION OF THE SITE. HOW DO WE PROTECT THIS SITE CULTURALLY AND PHYSICALLY TO THE FUTURE? WE HAVE A GOOD LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, A BIG PART OF THIS IS LOOKING AT BUILDING CAPACITY HOW TO IMPLEMENT AND ADDRESS THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY STAKEHOLDERS, TRIBES AND THE COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU. IF I MAY ADD A COUPLE THINGS. >>COUN. BORREGO: MAY I JUST SAY THAT MS. BEGAY, THAT WAS VERY GOOD. THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. >> ABSOLUTELY. TECHNOLOGY HAS ALSO ADVANCED. THE PARK WAS INITIALLY COMPETED INTO THE CITY CONTROL. THERE'S TECHNOLOGICAL WAYS OF IMAGING WHAT MIGHT BE UNDER GROUND THAT ARE NON-INVASIVE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTNERING ON. AND ALSO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SHE MENTIONED WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS STEP OF ADOPTING THIS RESOLUTION TO SHOW THE WIDE SPREAD SUPPORT THAT I KNOW YOU ALL SHARE OF HER RECOGNIZING THE TRAUMA AND HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE FINAL THING I WANTED TO ADD IS THE SITE THAT IS A BURIAL GROUND IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ENTIRE PARK. WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT CLOSING OFF THE AREA THAT ARE INVOLVED BEAR YRIAL SITES IT MAY NOT BE THE ENTIRE PARK. THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH THE INVESTIGATION. I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. I ALSO SEE MS. MELENDEZ. DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THEAL. I WANT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARKS TREATED THIS SPECIALLY AND CAREFULLY AND MARK IT OFF WITH FLAGS TO DESIGNATE THE AREA UNDER REVIEW AND ALSO TO HANDLE THE MAINTENANCE VERY DELICATELY UNTIL FINAL DECISIONS ARRIVE THAT PARKS IS BEING VERY RESPECTFUL AND CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE. I THANK THEM FOR THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE COUNCILORS THAT WISH TO SPEAK, I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS ITEM. I THINK WE DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION. COUNCILOR SENA, IS THAT A SECOND? THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO OUR COUNCILORS THAT MAY WISH TO SPEAK. COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES -- I WANTED TO BE SURE TO MAKE IT AND SECOND IT. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND REALLY THANK MS. BEGAY FOR ALL OF HER WORK. THIS RESOLUTION STATES IT'S A STEP TOWARD HEALING. I KNOW MOST RECENTLY HAD AN ORANGE SHIRT DAY RECOGNIZING THAT MANY OF OUR INDIGENOUS STUDENTS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY AND STATE AND NATION AND AROUND THE WORLD OF FUNDING THESE BURIAL SITES THAT BOARDING SKOAL AND HOW WE GO FORWARD WITH THAT HEALING. I KNOW IT DOESN'T BRING JUSTICE TO WHAT OCCURRED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE TRAUMA THAT IS EXPERIENCED BY OUR INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES. AND THE ONGOING WORK WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY IN ADDRESSING THE MURDERED AND MISSING INDIGENOUS WOMEN THAT CONTINUE ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NATION. MY COMMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS IS NATIVE LED AND FOR ME IT'S AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO CARRY THIS RESOLUTION. I KNOW A LOT OF THE WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE BY INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY TOWARD SENSE OF HEA THE CITY. AND RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE. MS. BEGAY, I'M SURE THIS IS NOT EASY AND UNDERSTANDING A LOT OF THE HISTORY OF OUR OWN CITY AND OF THIS PARK. I'M GLAD WE'RE MAKING THOSE STEPS AND WE'RE MAKING THE CONSIDERATION AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROCESS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND TO TERRY SLOAN AND THE COMMISSION FOR DOING THIS WORK IN UNDERSTANDING WHO IS THERE. WE KNOW THIS IS ONE STEP. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED TO INVESTIGATE AND PUT OUR EFFORTS TOWARD SEARCHING FOR ALL OF THE STUDENTS AS WELL AS THE MURDERED AND MISSING INDIGENOUS WOMEN. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WITHOUT QUESTION, WE I THINK HAVE BEEN CAREFUL TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE WILL BE GUIDED BY THE INDIGENOUS TRIBE AND PUEBLOS AND NATIONS WHO ALL OF THIS WAS THEIR LAND. WE RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THAT. I DID HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR MS. BEGAY. I THINK I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY TO SAY WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES WERE AND THAT A PRIORITY WOULD BE TO GET THIS OFF LIMITS TO RECREATION. I THINK I DON'T SAY HOW WE SHOULD MOVE TOWARD. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT DOWN IF WE KNOW THE BOUND RAY PLUS SOME ROOM FOR ERROR TO CLOSE THIS FOR RECREATION. I SUPPORT THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH THE GUIDANCE OF OUR NATIVE-AMERICAN INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS. I KNOW WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BIG AGENDA. I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO REVISIT. SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER WE OUGHT TO FIGURE OUT AND LOOK AT THE CITY'S PAST THAT WE FORGOT OUR HISTORY. I'M SURE IT WASN'T DELIBERATE. IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING JOURNEY. HOW WE CHOOSE TO RESPOND AND ENGAGE AND HOW WE PARTICIPATE. MS. BEGAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THAT INFORMATION. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM STATE LEGISLATORS AND FOLKS AT THE COUNTY WHO REPRESENT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO OFFERED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. WE'VE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE NATIVE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY WHO HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED IN THE FORMAL PROCESSES AS YOU KNOW THAT ALSO FEEL A DEEP CONNECTION TO THIS AND THE STORY BEHIND IT. I WANT TO THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR INVITING FOLKS IN. I HOPE IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE PUBLIC IN OUR PROCESS AND INCLUDE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE SO THIS IS NOT JUST A CITY PROGRAM AND PROCESS. THIS IS IMPORTANT ON A NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL SCALE WITH THE STORIES WE LEARN ABOUT THESE INDIAN SCHOOLS. I DON'T HAVE THAT HISTORY, BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT HISTORY IS AND HAVING HEARD ENOUGH OF THE THESE STORIES, WOULD LOVE TO DO A WAY OF STORY TELLING AND HISTORY PRESERVATION OF SOME OF THE ORAL STORIES FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE SCHOOLS. AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REPORTERS THAT I'M A PUBLISHER OF, REALLY GOT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN AT THE SCHOOL AND TOLD US ABOUT HORRIBLE SITUATIONS BUT ALSO OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY TOOK AWAY FROM IT. I LOVE TO SEE US FIGURE OUT AN ORAL HISTORY SO WITH WE CAN TELL WHAT IT IS THAT'S BURIED IN THAT PARK AND WHY IT MATTERS. THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE PROCESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO UPDATES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANYWAY OTHER COUNCILORS WISH TO SPEAK? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MS. BEGAY, THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO US. IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS TONIGHT. AND TO BE ONE OF THE SPONSORS REGARDING THIS AND TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR REQUESTING THAT THIS BE ON OUR AGENDA. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IT IS RISING TO THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE THAT IT IS. IT'S REALLY A FIRST STEP FOR US. TO MOVE FORWARD TO HEALING AND ALSO TO BY INCLUSIVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES IN ALBUQUERQUE AND TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PAIN THAT PEOPLE HAVE LIVED WITH OVER THE YEARS OF NOT KNOWING. I JUST ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILOR PEÑA BECAUSE THE PARK THAT'S IN HER DISTRICT OF WOMEN THAT WERE MURDERED AND THOSE THINGS HAVE HELPED BRING SOME OF THESE THINGS TO THE TOP SO THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES SEE THIS AND WE ALL ARE PART OF IT. AND THAT REALLY IS A FIRST STEP TOWARD HEALING. UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A VOTE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT WAS AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THAT. OUR NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE ON OCTOBER 18th. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. GOOD NIGHT.