>>> GOOD MORNING. THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS 9:30 A.M. BEFORE THE CLERK CALLS THE ROLL, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE CHAMBERS -- I AM ASKING FOR THE CHAMBERS TO BE QUIET. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC IN HERE WHEN I JUST SAID THAT. IT IS 9:31 A.M. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> PRESENT. >> SEVEN PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH AND COUNCILMEMBER SAKA TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE RUNNING LATE. THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE IS NOT ACCEPTING VERBAL PUBLIC, IN TODAY'S MEETING. WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE SUBMITTED ONLINE. WE DO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER SAKA AND COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH WITH US NOW. TODAY ON THE AGENDA IS THE SAME BILL THAT WE POSTPONED FROM YESTERDAY'S AGENDA, AND I MOVED TO ADOPT THE AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND ADOPTED. COUNCILMEMBERS, YESTERDAY, THE COMMITTEE TOOK ACTION ON ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37 ON TODAY'S AGENDA. WE WILL GET TO YOU. >> I MOVED TO CONSIDER S.0881. >> YOU NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED IN ORDER TO SPEAK. THAT POINT COMES IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. I WILL CALL ON YOU WHEN WE ARE AT THE RIGHT PLACE. >> COUNCILMEMBERS, I'M GOING TO SEEK UNANIMOUS CONSENT -- I'M GOING TO START OVER. YESTERDAY, THE COMMITTEE ACTED ON ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37 ON TODAY'S AGENDA. I'M GOING TO SEEK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO CLARIFY THAT TODAY THE COMMITTEE IS ONLY TAKING ACTION ON ITEM 38. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, ITEMS 2 THROUGH 37 ARE REMOVED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA. HEARING NO OBJECTION, ITEMS 2 337 ARE REMOVED FROM TODAY'S AGENDA COME AND WE WILL ONLY CONSIDER ITEM 38. THE AMENDED AGENDA IS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, AND AT THIS TIME, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCILMEMBERS TO MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA, TO ADD ITEMS TO THE AGENDA. ONLY NEW BUDGET PROPOSALS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA ARE THERE AT THIS TIME. COLLEAGUES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RAISE YOUR HAND, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CENTRAL STAFF FOR ALL THE LAST-MINUTE WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING WITH SOME OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE ARE MOVING THE AGENDA FOR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE PROPOSED AGENDA BE AMENDED TO ADD HSD004A, WHICH WAS SITUATED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON . >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.. >> THANK YOU. IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS AMENDMENT WAS DISTRIBUTED YESTERDAY. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I SEE YOU, BUT I WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN A MINUTE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US? DO YOU WANT TO DO THEM ONE BY ONE? >> I WANT TO DO THE ONES DISTRIBUTED BY FIVE. SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US? >> YES, I DO. I REQUEST THE ITEM NUMBER HSD036A1 TO BE REPLACED WITH HSD036B1. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CLERK, CAN YOU CONFIRM FOR ME THAT THERE WERE NO FURTHER AMENDMENTS DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE HAVE THESE MINUTES BEFORE SPREAD WALK ON AMENDMENT -- AND I WILL SPEAK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WITH THIS SITUATION LATER IN TODAY'S MEETING. THAT WE HAD A DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 1st AND A DEADLINE EARLIER THIS WEEK FOR AN IMPORTANT REASON. BEFORE US RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE WALK ON AMENDMENTS DISTRIBUTED BEFORE 5:00 P.M., HSD44A AND HSD36B. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? COUNCILMEMBER WOO >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> EPSTEIN. >> EIGHT IN FAVOR. >> THE AGENDA HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE HSD44A AND HSD36B. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. I SEE THAT THERE IS A REQUEST FOR WALK ON AMENDMENTS THAT WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED BEFORE 5:00 P.M. YESTERDAY, WHICH REQUIRES A RULE SUSPENSION. COLLEAGUES, I AM GOING TO OPPOSE THIS NOTION BASED ON THE PROCESS WHICH I ASKED FOR YESTERDAY FOR NO ADDITIONAL WALK ON AMENDMENTS. SO THE RULES MUST BE SUSPENDED . IF THERE IS A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES, THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE IT. >> I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR THE WALK ON AMENDMENTS TO MOVE FORWARD. >> SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO SUSPEND THE RULES. DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS? >> CORRECT. >> CLERK, WE PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON SUSPENDING THE RULES TO ALLOW WALK ON AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED, TO BE AMENDED TO THE AGENDA THAT WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M.? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> ABSTAIN . >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> NO. >> SEVEN IN FAVOR. ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSTENTION. >> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES TO SUSPEND THE RULES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THREE BEFORE US, HOWEVER, I AM SEEING THAT THE LAST ONE BEFORE YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA IS NOT READY. THAT IS THE LAST ONE TO COME UP, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO GET OVERLY ORGANIZED AND READY. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I SEE YOU HAVE A HAND. >> YES. SO, I -- >> I GOTCHA. >> ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREE WITH THIS ACTION, MOVE TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE SCLE1. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THE IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO INCLUDE SCLC1B1. [ INAUDIBLE ] . WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THESE IN ONE VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >> YES. I MOVED TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO AMEND S.00881 AND 092SB1. >> I BELIEVE IT IS 8B1. ONE PERTAINING TO TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED PACKAGE AND THE OTHER PERTAINING TO THE SOUTH LAKE UNION CAR, OFFERING AMENDMENTS AND VERIFICATIONS TO EACH. THAT ONE IS JUST APPROVED. THANK YOU. IT WILL BE CIRCULATED SHORTLY. >> WHAT I HAVE ON MY SCRIPT IS THAT WHILE YOU MOVED 8AQ, YOU NEED TO MOVE 8B1. >> THAT IS CORRECT. 8B1 IS KNOWN THAT WE ARE [ INAUDIBLE ] . >> COULD YOU PLEASE MOVE B1? >> WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE NUMBERS? PERTAINING TO THOSE -- >> I GOT YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, EVEN THOUGH I DISAGREE WITH THIS MOTION, I MOVED TO APPROVE CB S.B1. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION BEFORE US? WE DID THAT ONE. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS SCL1B1, S.102S. BEFORE I ASKED THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL, CAN I HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT 102S HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND IS READY FOR COMMITTEE ? I'M GOING TO LOOK TO CENTRAL STAFF AND CLERK ON THIS. IS A S.102S.B DISPUTED AND READY FOR REVIEW? WE HAVE NOT HAD THE ACTUAL VERSION DISTRIBUTED AT THIS MOMENT. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA INDICATED IT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED. IT WILL BE UP TO THE MEMBERS AT THIS POINT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AGENDA WITH IT, OR WAIT TILL LATER TO AMEND THE AGENDA ONCE IT IS READY. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, I'M GOING TO REQUEST THAT WE HOLD 102SB, SO THAT WE DON'T AMEND THE AGENDA WITHOUT INFORMATION THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE. >> WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW. I -- IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME WAY TO CONSIDER THIS, I SUPPOSE THAT IS FINE. IT IS APPROVED. THE LATEST VERSION THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO ME. EMAILED BY A CENTRAL STAFF THIS MORNING -- I JUST APPROVED IT. WE WILL SHARE IT WITH YOU ALL SHORTLY. >> THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE AGENDA LATER THROUGH THE DAY IF WE NEED TO ADD IT AT THAT POINT WHEN IT IS READY. >> YEAH. THAT IS S.102.SB. >> COLLEAGUES, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THIS NEXT LITTLE FACT IS KNOWN. AT THE FRONT OF OUR AREA HERE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING ON PAPER IN ADDITION TO IT BEING ONLINE. THIS IS AN ACT OF TRANSPARENCY TO ALLOW EVERYONE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION WE ARE REVIEWING. AT THIS TIME, COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, YOUR S.102.SB IS NOT ON THE PODIUM. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD THE AGENDA UNTIL A LATER POINT. >> I HAVE A COPY RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A FORM OVER SUBSTANCE DISTINCTION. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PASS IT AROUND. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, WE ALL NEED THE COPY RIGHT NOW. I'M GOING TO PAUSE. I'M GOING TO PAUSE THIS MOTION. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE COMMITTEE GO INTO RECESS FOR THREE MINUTES. TWO MINUTES, UNTIL 9:45. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL BE IN RECESS . >> IS JODY ON? >> I'M ON. >> SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE YOU. >> CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH . COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> HERE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> PRESENT.. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> PRESENT. >> WE ARE BACK IN ORDER. PUBLIC, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS IN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD ITEMS HSD44A AND HSD36B ADDED TO THE AGENDA. WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS THE RULES HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED BY VOTE TO ALLOW FOR WALK ON AMENDMENTS NOT DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M. THE PREVIOUS DAY. WE HAVE THREE OF THEM BEFORE US. SCL1B1, S.102S.B -- AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CONFIRM THAT THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVE THAT BEFORE US. ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? THERE ARE NO MORE AMENDMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT? >> I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH YOU AND ARE CLERK THAT MY TWO AMENDMENTS FROM THIS MORNING HAVE BEEN ENABLED PROCEDURALLY. >> YOU HAVE CB S.B1 AND SCL1B1 BEFORE US. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? BEFORE WE TAKE THIS VOTE ON AMENDING THE AGENDA, I WANT TO TAKE A POINT OF ORDER REGARDING THE PROCESS. WHICH IS, WE ARE ON THE FINAL DAY OF VOTING. I WILL COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC PROCESS LATER ON IN THIS MEETING. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCEPT ANY ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AFTER TODAY. WE DO HAVE A SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE AND A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE, WITHIN THE RULES, YOU COULD BRING AN AMENDMENT. AND THE REASON IT HAS BEEN STATED SINCE THE SELECT BUDGET SERIES, WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL BUDGET OVERVIEW, THAT THERE IS TIME BETWEEN HER VOTING SESSION RIGHT NOW, AND TUESDAY'S VOTE OUT OF COMMITTEE, IS TO ENSURE THE ACCURACY OF WHAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD BEFORE WE PUT IT INTO LAW. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS IS BETWEEN THE CHAIRS PACKAGE, AND RELEASING AND TAKING UP HER ITEMS TODAY FOR THIS WEEK. MANY COLLEAGUES REQUESTED CHANGES WITHIN THE CHAIRS PACKAGE TO FIX ERRORS THAT WERE NOT INTENTIONALLY MADE, BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD AND LONG HOURS. AND SO, FOR US TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE GOVERNING IN A GOOD WAY, TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE BEING ACCURATE WITH OUR WORK, AND THAT WE ARE ENSURING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN OUR WORK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF SEATTLE, THERE IS NO NEW AMENDMENTS AFTER TODAY'S MEETING -- THEY ARE NOT WELCOME. AS I STATED WHEN WE TOOK AT THIS ITEM, I VOTED AGAINST THE SPENDING RULES FOR THE REASONS I STATED. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDED -- AMENDING THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE ITEMS NOT DISTRIBUTED BY 5:00 P.M., DESPITE AGREEING WITH THEIR SUBSTANCE AT TIMES. SO, CLERK, WE HAVE SCLC1B1, S.00881, 092SB1 BEFORE US. WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> EPSTEIN. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> NO. >> SEVEN IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSTENTION. THE AGENDA WILL BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE SCL1B1. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA? AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA AS ADOPTED, OR AS AMENDED, WILL BE ADOPTED. HEARING NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS INTO THE RECORD? >> INTRODUCTION AND PROCESS OVERVIEW. >> AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ONTO GROUP D, WHERE WE LEFT OFF YESTERDAY. COLLEAGUES, THAT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> CORRECT. ITEM 1 IS THE INTRODUCTION AND OVERVIEW IN THE CASE OF B2. >> CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE READ ITEM NUMBER TWO IN THE RECORD? >> MODIFICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE FOR TWO DOZEN 25, TRAINING POSITIONS EXEMPT FROM CIVIL SERVICE, QUALIFIED BY A TWO THIRDS VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. >> WE ARE GOING TO BRING BEFORE US GROUP D, AND WE WILL VOTE ON THESE ITEMS ONE BY ONE. COLLEAGUES TODAY, IF YOU ARE MARATHON RUNNERS, -- I THOUGHT WE WERE ON MILD 20. I WE ARE AT MILE 18 AT THIS POINT. MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK A COUPLE. WHEN YOU ARE ON MILD 20, YOU ONLY HAVE SIX MILES TO GO. IT IS THE LONGEST SIX MILES OF LIFE IF ANYONE HAS HAD THAT EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE HAD ALL-NIGHT SESSIONS. PEOPLE WERE HERE UNTIL 11:00 OR 12:00 P.M. WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL WE ARE DONE. TODAY IS THE END OF VOTING AROUND NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. WE WILL GET IT UNDERWAY. WE'VE GOT GROUP D BEFORE US. WE WILL TAKE ON WALK ON AMENDMENTS AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, IS THAT AN OLD HAND, NEW HAND? >> YES IT IS. >> WITH THAT, DIRECTOR NOBLE , HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO PROCEED? ONE BY ONE? SHOULD WE HAVE CENTRAL STAFF BRIEFED THE ITEM AND THEN I WILL TURN IT TO THE SPONSOR AND WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION? >> YES. THAT WAS THE PLAN WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW. >> FANTASTIC. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FIRST ITEM BEFORE US, WHICH IS PARTS 10B1. >> ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ARTS-010-B-1. THE $100,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS EXTERNAL CONTROL PLANNING PROCESS, INTENDED TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE OF THE ECONOMY IN SEATTLE COME AND MAP THE ARTS AND CULTURAL ASSETS. THE PROVISO IS INTENDED TO BE PLACED ON $2.5 MILLION WORTH OF MISSION FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION PLAN. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT AS I HAVE SAID, THIS IS SORT OF THE SECOND STEP OF THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE IS GOING THROUGH THE. THIS YEAR, THEY CREATED A STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THIS IS NOW GOING TO BE LOOKING EXTERNALLY TO UNDERSTAND THE CREATIVE ECONOMY IN THE CITY. THE FUNDING IS A PROVISO, SO THIS IS NOT ADDING TO THE BUDGET, AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU. I WILL SHARE THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS REGULATION ON THESE, AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT. AS I STATED YESTERDAY, PROVISOS ARE NOT NECESSARILY FREE WHEN THEY HAVE A BODY OF WORK ALREADY PLANNED FOR IT. I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE HERE, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO. COLLEAGUES, DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. WHILE I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILMEMBERS INTRODUCTION OF THIS IMPORTANT WORK, I DID TALK TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I KNOW THIS WORK IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ANYWAY. AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, I KNOW FROM HAVING WORKED AT THE DEPARTMENT THAT MOST OF THE PROCESSES FOR DISTRIBUTING ALLOCATIONS INVOLVE THOSE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY INPUT BECAUSE THEY USUALLY DO PANELS WHEN THEY ARE REVIEWING IT. THEY PUT OUT AN RFP, THEN THEY DO A PANEL FOR A DECISION ON WHO IS GETTING ORDERED, AND THAT USUALLY INVOLVES COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THERE IS COMMUNITY -- ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT, WHEN THESE PROCESSES ARE MOVING FORWARD. SO I FEEL CONFIDENT BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE PRIORITIZED. I THINK THIS IS A DUPLICATION. SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> AS CHAIR OF ARTS AND CULTURE, WELL, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT CULTURAL PLANNING IS NEEDED. I DON'T LIKE HOW IT IS TAKING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION FUND, AND SO, I WILL BE VOTING NO. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> I'M SORRY. I'LL TRY TO FIND IT IN MY RECORDS, BUT, THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DID RECENTLY, WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS DO THE REPORT ON THE CREATIVE ECONOMY, AND WHEN I FIND IT IN MY RECORDS, I WILL DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER MORALES HAS SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. I'M DONE. >> SORRY. >> CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON CB ARTS-010-B-1? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. >> NO. NO. >> TWO IN FAVOR, THE >> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEXT ITEM, ARTS-011S-A-1. >> ARTS-011S-A-1 IS REQUEST THAT ARTS CREATE CITYWIDE AND MUNICIPAL ARTS PLANS. THIS WOULD ASK FOR TWO SEPARATE PLANS. ONE IS A PLANT WHERE ARTS WOULD WORK WITH ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL PURPOSES, IN WHICH ARTS WOULD SERVE AS A CENTRAL REPOSITORY OF INFORMATION FOR FUNDING ACROSS THE CITY, IN ADDITION TO THE DATA AND OUTCOMES OF THE PROGRAMMING. SUPPORTED BY THOSE INVESTMENTS. THE SECOND DOSE EXCUSE ME. A MUNICIPAL ARTS PLAN THAT CONTAIN SPECIFIC NARRATIVE DESCRIPTIONS, INCLUDING, HOW NEW PROJECTS, FOR PUBLIC ARTS FUNDING, ARE GOING TO BE SUPPORTED, THAT WE COMPARE THE SIZE AND NUMBER OF NEW PROJECTS TO THE SIZE AND NUMBER OF NEW PROJECTS SINCE 2015. IT EXPLAINS HOW IT CONNECTS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PARTICULARLY TO COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. AND PROVIDE A BALANCE OF FUNDS CARRIED EVER SINCE DIAZ 19. IT WILL BE DUE ON JUNE 30th, 2025. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA HAS SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THIS IS REQUESTING THAT ARTS , AS PART OF THE ACTUAL -- ALL THE PERMITS HAVE TO SUBMIT ANNUAL WORK PLANS. AS PART OF THEIR WORKPLAN, THEY NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE FUNNELING ACTUALLY THROUGH THEIR DEPARTMENT TO OTHER SISTER DEPARTMENTS, AND REPORTING BACK ON WHAT THE PLAN IS. HOW THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED, AND OUTCOMES AND DATA FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY AND GOOD GOVERNANCE STANDPOINT. THAT MUNICIPAL ARTS PLAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ARTS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AS MANAGERS OF THE 1% FOR PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THE 1% FOR PUBLIC ART IS THE CITY HAS AN ORDINANCE BY WHICH DEPARTMENTS -- CAPITAL DEPENDS -- 1% OF THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS GO TO PUBLIC ARTS, THE OFFICE OF SPORTS AND CULTURE MANAGES THAT. AS PART OF THAT, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTING AN ANNUAL PLAN THAT INCLUDES THE ITEMS THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] , YOU DESCRIBED IN THE CBA. THEY HAVE NOT DONE THIS ROBUST OF A PLAN SINCE 2016, SO THIS IS REQUESTING THAT THEY DO THIS PLAN, THEY SUBMIT THIS PLAN. THEY SUBMITTED A SPREADSHEET ANNUALLY THAT HAS SOME INFORMATION, BUT WE ALL KNOW SPREADSHEETS ARE NOT ACTUAL PLANS, SO THIS IS JUST REQUESTING AN ACTUAL PLAN FROM THE DEPARTMENT, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE, AND ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE, AND ONE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO DO, SO, THANK YOU. TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS ONE DOES IF THERE IS NO MANY ATTACHMENT TO THIS , IT IS JUST GOOD GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY. >> THANK YOU. FROM THE CHAIR'S PERSPECTIVE, AS I STATED YESTERDAY, STATEMENTS OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT ARE NOT FREE. IT REQUIRES WORK, TIME AWAY FROM ANOTHER DUTY SERVING SATELLITE NEEDS, AND I WILL NOT BE OPPOSING ANY OF THE SITES TODAY, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE WAY PAST THE THI HAD MADE. THE ITEM DOES NEED TO BE MOVED. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR ITEM? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ARTS-011S-A-1. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THE CHAIRS MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I AGREE WITH THIS. I AM LISTED AS THE SPONSOR. THE ARTS LANDSCAPE IS CHANGING SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THE PASSAGE OF OPEN DOOR, AND WHILE I AM NOT NECESSARILY IMPACTING DOSE THAT WILL IMPACT THE REGION. HERE IS ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND. WE WILL BE VOTING ON THE ONE SEATTLE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, AND THAT DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS LIKE SPACE AND OTHER FEATURES OF OUR LANDSCAPE THAT CONTRIBUTE TO BILLABILITY ACROSS THE CITY. I WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF WHERE SOME ARTS DEFICITS MAY BE, GOING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. AS CHAIR OF ARTS, CULTURAL PLANNING IS AT THE CORE OF THE DIFFERENT. [ INAUDIBLE ] I SUPPORT THE EFFORTS IN CREATING A PLANT THAT ALIGNS ALL THE PERMITS WITHOUT SILENT ART SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND EFFORTS. [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS INCLUDES ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS COME AS WELL. IT IS A BURDEN TO WORK JUST LOOK AT ARTS AND BE COMPLEMENTING TO WHAT OED AND THE [ INAUDIBLE ] IS DOING. >> COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HERE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, CLERK, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON ARTS-011S-A-1. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. SORRY. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU. THE MOTION CARRIES. ARTS-011S-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED . COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CARE-102S-A-1 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, FG-104S-A-1. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE ITEM? >> I MOVE FG-104S-A-1. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. DESPITE IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. >> WE HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE US. TOM, I SEE YOUR HERE TO TELL US WHAT IS GOING ON. >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. ITEM NUMBER 4 IS FG-104S-A-1. IT IS A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT . WE REQUEST A STAFF TO DEVELOP LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IMPOSE A TAX ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SERVICES PROVIDED BY REALTORS, ARCHITECTS AND COUNTY CONSULTANTS. THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THIS REQUEST WOULD INCLUDE THE NATIVE COMMITTEES BY JUNE OF 2035. >> IT IS A GREAT COMMITTEE. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WHO SPONSORED DAN MINUTE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT OUR STRUCTURAL BUDGET DEFICIT, AND THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO BEGIN THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS MIGHT BE TO GENERATE SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO, COUNCIL PRESIDENT ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EARLIER IN THE WEEK, IN WASHINGTON STATE, THE RETAIL SALES TAX ORIGINALLY APPLIED ONLY TO THE SALE OF TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND THIS, BY DEFINITION, EXCLUDED SERVICES FROM THE TAX BASE. SINCE 1935, SOME SERVICES WERE ADDED TO THE TECH SPACE, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION, REPAIR, CERTAIN AMUSEMENT AND RECREATION, BUT THAT STILL LEAVES MANY PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES EXEMPT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE PAY SALES TAX WHEN WE HIRE A PLUMBER BUT NOT AN ARCHITECT OR A REALTOR OR ACCOUNTANT. SO THIS WOULD IMPOSE A 1% EXCISE TAX ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SERVICES PROVIDED BY REALTORS, ARCHITECTS, ACCOUNTANTS, AND CONSULTANTS. AND IT IS ESTIMATED THAT WITH A 1% TAX, THIS COULD POTENTIALLY GENERATE ABOUT $70 MILLION A YEAR. JUST TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN JUST ASK CENTRAL STAFF TO WORK ON THIS NEXT YEAR, BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE BUDGET CONVERSATION CONTEXT THIS YEAR THE CALLED THE QUESTION, AS COUNCILMEMBER MORT WAS ABLE TO DO, AND DISCUSS SOME POTENTIAL REVENUE OPTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. JUST A REMINDER THAT EVEN IF THIS MOTION DOES NOT PASS, CENTRAL STAFF CAN AND LIKELY WILL LOOK INTO THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR JOB. FROM THE CHAIR'S PERSPECTIVE, AS THIS WAS AN ORDINANCE WE WERE ENACTING WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE'VE HAD TO DIVE INTO IT, I WOULD OPPOSE IT, AND I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT IS GOOD FOR US TO LOOK INTO THIS. I'M ALREADY AWARE OF SOME CHALLENGES, AND STILL, IT IS IMPORTANT TO GATHER INFORMATION, SO, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AS A COSPONSOR, I WANTED TO AT MY VOICE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BEGIN THESE CONVERSATIONS. WE WILL DO THAT. IT WILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE FULL PICTURE. I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE CHALLENGES, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE BEGIN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THEM COME SHOULD THEY EXIST. I WILL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I THINK THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS ON THE LEGALITY, AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY. HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT WORKERS WHO CURRENTLY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE OR BUILD IN SEATTLE. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE PROFESSIONS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE AND BUILD IN SEATTLE, SO I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I WOULD LOVE TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. COUNCILMEMBER WOO BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH. THESE NEXT TO COME THIS ONE IN THE NEXT ONE, ARE CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE WORKED THROUGH COMMITTEE. THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION. THAT WE DO IT THAT WAY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, I SEE YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. >> I THINK MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT MY SPOUSE IS A CONSULTANT IN TOWN, SO I'M GOING TO BE ABSTAINING ABOUT THIS IS FROM THIS VOTE. THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. >> NEVERMIND. >> OKAY. COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE THE LAST WORD, AND THEN I WILL PASS IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER MORALES -- JUST TO STATE THAT THIS MISSION BEFORE US IS SIMPLY INDICATING THAT THERE WILL BE COMMITTEE WORK DONE NEXT YEAR, SHOULD COUNCILMEMBERS -- ANY COUNCILMEMBER'S REQUEST CENTRAL STAFF TO WORK ON SUCH A PROPOSAL, THAT WOULD GO THROUGH COMMITTEE. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT -- YOU HAVE A NEW HAND. I DID CALL THE END OF DISCUSSION. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, BUT MOVING FORWARD, ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH DISCUSSION, WE ARE DONE. SO, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. I WILL BE VOTING NO. I FEEL THAT -- I NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WERE CERTAIN SERVICES THAT WASHINGTON STATE ALLOWED US TO TAX, AND SO, I WILL BE VOTING NO, ALSO. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ESTABLISH AN INTEREST TO HAVE A NEW SOURCE OF REVENUE. WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PAY FOR. INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WE NEED MORE MONEY, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WHO SPONSORED THE AMENDMENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THIS IS A VOTE TO DO THE RESEARCH ON THIS TAX, AND WHAT IT MIGHT GENERATE, AND WILL GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS. IT WILL BE REVIEWED BY LAW, AND GO THROUGH ALL THE OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH, AS WE ARE DELIBERATING, SO, THIS IS NOT A VOTE TO PASS THE TEXT. THIS IS A VOTE TO RESEARCH, SO THAT WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE TAX. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON CB FG-104S-A-1. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> ABSTAIN. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> FOUR IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED. ONE ABSTENTION. >> THAT MOTION FAILS. THERE ARE ABSTENTIONS. THIS HAS FAILED. SO CB FG-104S-A-1 DOES NOT PASS. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON HAS SPONSORED, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR NEXT ITEM? >> I MOVE CB FG-104S-A-1. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> TOM, TAKE IT AWAY. >> ITEM 5 IS FG-105S-A-1, WHICH IS A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT WOULD REQUEST STAFF TO DEVELOP LEGISLATION THAT WOULD IMPOSE A 5% TAX ON DIGITAL ADVERTISING SERVICES, OR ADDS ON DIGITAL INTERVIEWS, INCLUDING BANNER ADS, SEARCH ENGINE ADVERTISING, INTERSTITIAL ADVERTISING AND OTHER COMPARABLE ADVERTISING SERVICES. THE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIVE TO THIS [ INAUDIBLE ] WOULD BE DELIVERED TO THE TREBLE COMMITTEE NO LATER THAN JUNE 23rd 2025. >> THANK YOU, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. TOM DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF DESCRIBING WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THE REASON WHY I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO START ANALYZING RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO ASSORTED TAXES. AND IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THIS KIND OF TAX COULD GENERATE ABOUT $20 MILLION PER YEAR FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COMMITTEE CHAIR RECOGNITION IS THE SAME AS THE LAST ONE THIS IS SIMPLY A VOTE TO STUDY THE ISSUES. NOT NECESSARILY INDICATING MY SUPPORT OF IT. IT WILL HAVE A COMMITTEE PROCESS RESEARCH AND REVIEW. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, ARE YOU A COSPONSOR? >> I AM. >> I WILL CALL ON YOU NEXT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> I WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS, TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS OF STUDYING ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCES, SO THANK YOU, >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES., FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> FOR THE REASONS I STATED EARLIER, I DON'T THINK IT WILL ME GET THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO PASS THIS IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAYS. ALSO, I AM CONCERNED. I HAVE CUSHIONS REGARDING ITS LEGALITY AS WELL AS HOW IT AFFECTS OUR JOURNALISM INDUSTRY. I KNOW A LOT OF LOCAL PAPERS, AS WELL AS MEDIA, PROFIT AND ARE ABLE TO SUSTAIN USING SOME OF THIS FORM OF ADVERTISING, SO I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING HOW THAT AFFECTS THAT INDUSTRY, AS WELL. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IS THERE'S COMES MORE FROM A WORKFLOW PERSPECTIVE, AS THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT -- WE ARE GOING TO BE VOTING ON THE PLAN THIS YEAR. WE HAVE SEVERAL BODIES OF WORK THAT REQUIRE EXTENSIVE CENTRAL STAFF TIME AND EFFORT, SO, I DO NOT WANT TO REQUEST THAT THEY DISH I'M NOT GOING TO DIRECT THEM TO TAKE ON THIS BODY OF WORK. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AS I STATED EARLIER, BASED ON MY SPOUSE'S WORK, I WILL BE ABSTAINING ON HIS FOOT. >> THANKS. COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I HEAR THE NOTE YOU MADE ABOUT YOUR ROLE AS COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND DIRECTING'S CENTRAL STAFF'S WORK. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THEM RESTRICT THE WORK WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THEIR COMMITTEE. I HOPE THAT WASN'T AN INDICATION OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. COLLEAGUES, HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES? WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON FG-105S-A-1 ? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> ABSTAIN. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> ABSTAIN. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES.. THREE YES, FOR NAYS . >> IT DOES NOT CARE. FG-105S-A-1 WILL NOT BE ATTACHED TO THE CONSTABLE. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE SPONSORED THE ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE IT? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HSD-024-A-1. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED . I HAVE JENNIFER AT THE TABLE. JENNIFER COME OVER TO YOU. >> THIS COUNCIL BUDGET ACTION WOULD IMPOSE A PROVIDES OF 350,000. THE HUMAN SERVICES THE PROMPT FOR PURPOSES OF FUNDING EIGHT SEASONAL WINTER SHELTER IN DISTRICT 5, THAT WOULD BE OPEN CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS. THE HOMELESSNESS AUTHORITY WOULD ADMINISTER THIS FUNDING AND WOULD UTILIZE [ INAUDIBLE ] FROM ITS AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF IMPLEMENTING THIS CBA. DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP THROUGH WITH THE QUESTION AT THE MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK. AROUND, ARE THERE OTHER SEVERE WINTER SHELTERS? AS I IDENTIFIED, THERE ARE TWO. ONE IS AT CITY HALL. AND THEN ONE, ADDITIONALLY, AT THE SEATTLE CENTER. THERE WAS A QUESTION IF THERE WERE SOME SOUTH OF THE CITY. THERE IS AT LEAST ONE. I HAVE SOME INFORMATION HERE. THERE IS AT LEAST ONE THERE MIGHT BE A FEW OTHERS. THE INFORMATION IS A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR. I'VE NOT HAD TIME TO CLARIFY IT. THERE IS A SHELTER. IT IS UNCLEAR IF THAT IS A PAST PRACTICE OR A PLANNED FUTURE PRACTICE AND HOW MANY THAT WOULD BE. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU TO JEN FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS. AND BEING A GREAT RESOURCE. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, SEATTLE HAS A LARGE HOMELESS POPULATION, PARTICULARLY AROUND LAKE CITY AND AURORA. THE CITY'S CURRENT RESPONSE FOR EXTREME WEATHER HAS UNFORTUNATELY FAIRED -- FAILED IN REACHING OUT TO THE PEOPLE LIVING HOMELESS UP IN DISTRICT 5, AND I WOULD SAY, MOST OF NORTH SEATTLE. IT ISN'T LIMITED TO THE BOUNDARIES OF DISTRICT 5 TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SHELTER DURING WINTER MONTHS. SO, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE SORT OF A NEAT MODEL TO HAVE EIGHT SEASONAL SHELTER IN THE CENTER OF D5, THINKING ABOUT THE NORTHGATE AREA, WHICH IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE BY TRANSIT. TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS ESSENTIAL SPACE AND MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY THEY HAVE BUILT. IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT TO COME TO THE SEATTLE CENTER. THE PROVIDERS [ INAUDIBLE ] HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS. AS HAVE OTHER ADVOCATES AND PROVIDERS IN DISTRICT 5 ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS. I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THAT MEMBER'S OFFICE, AND THEY ARE ALSO SUPPORTIVE AND RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR A SEASONAL SHELTER, SO, THAT IS WHY. THE INTENT OF THIS PROVISO IS TO CREATE A SHELTER ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THROUGH THE COLD MONTHS, NOVEMBER THROUGH MARCH, APPROXIMATELY, AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS TO ACCESSING WINTER SHELTERS DOWNTOWN. AND ALSO, AND HAVING IT OPEN EVERY DAY FOR THOSE PERIODS OF TIME, IT FACILITATES THE BUILDING OF NECESSARY RELATIONSHIPS THAT THEN HELPS PEOPLE CREATE THAT TRUST THAT IS IMPORTANT TO HELPING PEOPLE TRANSITION INTO LEASING OR OTHER FORMS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. SO I RECOGNIZE IT IS A STRETCH. WE ARE LOOKING AT UTILIZING THE KRCHA. [ INAUDIBLE ] . I WOULD ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> I WILL BE ABSTAINING. I WILL SHARE WHY. DISCUSSION? YOU ARE MAKING MY HEART SINK. VICE CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE MY COLIC BRINGING THIS FORWARD. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT AND AGREE, THERE IS A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE DEFINED, ALONG LAKE CITY. AT THE SAME TIME, KRCHA HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EXTREME WEATHER SHELTERING OF FOLKS. I KNOW WE HAVE RESILIENCE HUBS THAT THOSE OUT OF THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER CITY ASSETS, SUCH AS LIBRARIES, WHO NOW HAVE AIR CONDITIONING. I KNOW LIBRARIES ARE NOT MEANT TO BE SHELTERS. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WHERE IS THE CORONATION POINT BETWEEN ALL THE PIECES COME AND ALSO, WHAT IS KCRHA'S PLAN FOR SEASONAL WEATHER SHELTERING? I APPRECIATE, JEN, YOU BRINGING UP THAT BEFORE COVID, WE HAD SOME KIND OF CONTINUOUS, SEASONAL PROGRAM, BUT NOW WE DON'T. >> JEN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT PRIOR TO COVID , AND THIS CAME PARTLY FROM TRACY, WHO HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, THAT THERE WERE SEASONAL WEATHER SHELTERS THAT WERE OPEN CONTINUOUSLY. THAT IS A MODEL THAT THE CITY HAS MOVED AWAY FROM. THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT PARTICULAR MODEL, ONE OF THEM JUST BEING STAFFING, BUT I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY OR BACKGROUND ON THAT. >> THANK YOU, JEN. MAY I CONTINUE, CHAIR? THANK YOU. AND, THE OTHER THING IS, THIS MONEY IS ONE TIME. I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A ONE-TIME EFFORT. SO, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, WHILE I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE NEED, I WILL BE VOTING NO FOR THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION OR ANY TYPE OF SUPPORT THAT I CAN PROVIDE FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE SURE THIS IS PART OF KCRHA'S PLAN, BECAUSE IT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED IN THE D5 AND ACROSS THE CITY. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. WE SIGNED THIS LAST WINTER WHEN IT STARTED. WE GOT A LOT OF EMAILS FROM CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SHELTERING DURING EXTREME WEATHER INSTANCES. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INVESTMENT. I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO COVER IT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE ROBUST PLAN, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. COLLEAGUES, FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> I APPRECIATE YOU BEING SUCH A STRONG ADVOCATE. I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER MOORE BEING SUCH A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR D5 AND ALSO PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING IN THAT AREA. I SIGNED ON AS A SPONSOR BECAUSE I WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS INFORMATION, AND I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT TODAY, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS ASSET IN THE NORTH END -- WE POSTED ON THE REGIONAL COMMITTEE, AND -- OF KCRHA DISH AND I BELIEVE I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU GOING FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, IN ENSURING THAT THERE IS A SEVERE WEATHER DOES THAT THIS DOES EXIST WITHIN THE PLAN OF KCRHA GOING FORWARD, BUT I'M SORRY. I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD NOT PERMIT THE FUNDING DOSE PUTTING THE FUNDING OF THE AGENCY BEFORE UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE OTHER SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED. [ INAUDIBLE ] THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS CONVERSATION. APPRECIATE IT. >> SO COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT POINTS FOR AND AGAINST. YOU KNOW, ONE NEW DYNAMIC IS THAT WE HAVE A NEW CASE HERE AT KCRHA. WE HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE IN CHARGE OF THE CASE HERE AT KCRHA. IN MY OFFICE, WE HAVE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH DR. KENNISON, AND WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE, NOT JUST ON THE CONGREGATE AMENDMENT FROM YESTERDAY, BUT ALSO, ISSUES LIKE THIS. UNDERSTANDING THE POINTS MADE. I ALSO SEE THIS AS A WAY TO PROACTIVELY AND POSITIVELY ENGAGE WITH KCRHA ON WHAT IS OBVIOUSLY A SHORTFALL FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOORE -- FOR THAT REASON, ACKNOWLEDGING ALL THE POINTS MADE, BUT WITH THIS NEW DYNAMIC, I WANT TO SUPPORT IT. I WILL BE VOTING YES ON THIS ONE >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'M GOING TO CALL LAST CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE MY STATEMENT, AND THEN I WILL PASS IT OVER. LAST CALL ON DISCUSSION FOR THIS ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I WILL BE ABSTAINING TODAY. I HAVE ADDITIONAL POLICY CONSIDERATIONS TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU RIGHT HERE AND NOW. [ INAUDIBLE ] ALSO, THE WEIGHT YOU DESCRIBED THE NEED IS SO INCREDIBLY ACCURATE. I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT NINE MONTHS -- 11 MONTHS AFTER TAKING OFFICE, YOU HAVE THAT ON THE GROUND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FOR THE IDEA. I GUESS, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH KCRHA AND WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, I THINK I AM A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG IN MY UNDERSTANDING, PERHAPS, OR COMFORT, REALLY, WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THIS, AND THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. I CAN SAY THAT I WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE MY INITIAL PROPOSAL WAS NOT TO USE THE [ INAUDIBLE ] TO USE THE UNDER SPEND. I'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH KCRHA ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, I, TOO, SUPPORT KCRHA , HAVING COWRITTEN WITH THE HELP OF OUR CENTRAL STAFF IN OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THE NEW ILA, AND WANTED IT TO SUCCEED, BUT SOMETIMES, OLD HABITS DIE HARD, AND THE HABIT OF LOOKING AT THIS DOSE AND THAT CAN BE NOTED BY THE FACT THAT I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR SEASONAL WINTER SHELTER IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WITH KCRHA. ADMITTEDLY, UNDER DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP, AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED THE PLAN. THEY HAVEN'T CHANGE THE PLAN TO LOOK AT SEASONAL WEATHER SHELTER. THEY NEED A PUSH, AND THEY ARE MORE RECEPTIVE TO THE PUSH. CERTAINLY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS RECEPTIVE, TOO, SO I VIEW THIS AS A WAY TO IN A WAY, DO A PILOT PROJECT, TO SEE HOW IT WORKS, TO WORK OUT THE KINKS. THE PROVIDERS DOSE THIS WOULD GO OUT TO RFP, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT THE PRIMARY PROVIDERS WOULD BE THE OAKS AND SHORELINE, WHO HAVE A LONG TRACK RECORD OF WORKING VERY SUCCESSFULLY WITH RUNNING THEIR OWN NON-CONGREGATE SHELTER TO CONVERTED NURSING HOME. AND GETTING PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THE CONTRACT WOULD BE ONLY AWARDED TO SEASONED, EXPERIENCED PROVIDERS, SO, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT TO ME AND ALSO, TO THE PARTIES HERE, SO, FOR THOSE REASONS, I AM COMFORTABLE. I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES CONCERNS. AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE THAT IF THIS DOESN'T PASS TODAY, THAT WE REALLY MAKE THIS A REALITY BY NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DYING, AND THAT'S NOT OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON HSD-024-A-1. CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON HSD-024-A-1? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> ABSENT. >> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE ABSTENTION. >> THANK YOU. EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE ABSTENTION. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES. HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED TO CONSTABLE 120905. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH, IT IS WITHDRAWN. >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR ITEM? >> YES. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO SUBSTITUTE HS-036-B-1, IN PLACE OF HSD-036-A-1. >> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE THE ORIGINAL, AND THEN SHE WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION, IS THAT CORRECT? >> JUST TO HELP YOU OUT HERE, COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I MOVE HSD-036-A-1. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> HSD-036-A-1 HAS BEEN MOVED. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE HSD-036-A-1? >> YES. I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE [ INAUDIBLE ] I MOVED TO APPROVE HS-036-B. >> SECOND. >> COLLEAGUES, I KNOW WE ARE QUICK TO SECOND,. I MOVED TO SUBSTITUTE HSD-036-A-1 FOR HS-036-B-1. IS THERE A SECOND? >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO SUBSTITUTE THE BILL. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I'M GOING TO TURN TO CENTRAL STAFF FOR PRESENTATION OF THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT, AND THE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUESTED TO SUBSTITUTE, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER WOO, I WILL PASS IT OVER TO YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMITTEE. TAMASO JOHNSON. THE AMOUNTS ARE REDUCED FROM $100,000-$70,000. THIS ACTION WOULD INCREASE THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT BUDGET BY $70,000. ONE TIME IN 2025 FOR CONTRACTED PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LITTLE SAIGON AREA OF THE CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD. COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED WE DELIVER CARE FOR THIS FUNDING, AND REQUEST THAT THE DIRECTOR WAVE CONTRACT TERMS FOR THIS PURPOSE. THE CBA WOULD DECREASE CITY BUDGET OFFICE BUDGET IN 2025, REDUCING FUNDING INTENDED FOR AN EVALUATION OF THE JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX. >> THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT SUBSTITUTION WAS SENT OUT YESTERDAY. I INCLUDED COPIES FOR EVERYONE TODAY. IN QUEUE, TAMASO FOR EXPLAINING THE SUBSTITUTION. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S AMENDMENT FOR THE TREATMENT CENTER THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP LATER TODAY. [ INAUDIBLE ] I WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL LAYERED SERVICES TO BENEFIT AND HELP LITTLE SAIGON, THIRD PIKE AND PINE IN THE AREAS AROUND IT. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE MOBILE TREATMENT CENTER -- [ INAUDIBLE ] THAT CAN HELP ADDRESS THE DIRE NEEDS OF LITTLE SEE YOU -- SAIGON AND THE C.I.D.. THIS IS WHY WE LOWERED THAT AMOUNT. THE REASON WHY WE EVEN MADE THIS ASK IN THE FIRST PLACE, TO HAVE THIS MONEY GO TO THE AREA 120905 [ INAUDIBLE ] THERE HAS BEEN A LONG LINE OF DISINVESTMENT IN THE LITTLE SAIGON AREA. WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN FENTANYL USE AND SALES, AS WELL AS THE ILLEGAL MARKET THAT IS HAPPENING THERE, AND WITH THIRD PIKE AND PINE, BEING SLOWLY RESOLVED IN A WAY, MOST OF THAT ACTIVITY HAS MOVED OVER TO LITTLE SAIGON AND HAS REALLY GOTTEN REALLY INTENSE AND [ INAUDIBLE ] IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO. THIS WEEKEND, THERE WAS A MASS CASUALTY EVENT WITH STABBINGS, AND THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENCE, ARE VERY CONCERNED. THEY HAVE SENSED THIS CHANGE AND SEEN THIS CHANGE BUT THEY ALSO REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE THERE FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA. I THINK, WITH THE NAVIGATION CENTER BEING MOVED IN EARLY JANUARY, WE HAD A PROPOSAL FOR WDC AND LEAD TO HELP WITH THAT TRANSITION, AS WELL AS TO HELP WITH THE BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR $2.4 MILLION TO GET US TO -- THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BUT, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT MUCH MONEY, SO WE ARE HOPING THAT THE 70,000 WILL GET US CLOSER TO THAT GOAL. THE AREA HAS GOTTEN FUNDING FROM ADAM SMITH FOR ABOUT $1.4 MILLION IN OCTOBER 2025. WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS FUNDING WILL HELP THAT AREA BE ABLE TO HAVE WDC AND [ INAUDIBLE ] PRESENCE WITH THE CONSERVATION MOVE TO GET TO THAT FUNDING IN OCTOBER. [ INAUDIBLE ] SO, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. FROM THE BUDGET CHAIRS PERSPECTIVE, I SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU SAID. I WILL SPEAK TO THAT LATER, BUT THE FUNDING SOURCE IS NOT ONE THAT THE BUDGET CHAIR CAN SUPPORT, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO BASED ON THE FUNDING SOURCE, BUT I WILL SPEAK TO THE MERITS OF YOUR REQUEST AT THE END OF DISCUSSION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND. >> I'M SORRY. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, AS YOU HAVE YOUR HAND. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS IN THE SENSE THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] WE HAVE DONE A GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK THIS YEAR. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BILLS GOING ON THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED. THEY ARE BEING PUT INTO PLACE NOW. THEY ARE BEING STOOD UP NOW, AND, WE ARE IN THIS BRIDGING MOTION BEFORE WE GET TO A BETTER PLACE ONCE ALL THOSE BILLS AND THOSE EFFORTS ARE REALLY, TRULY UP AND RUNNING, AND EFFORTS AND WORKING WITH GROUPS LIKE WE DELIVER CARE ARE IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY IN THESE TROUBLESOME AREAS OF C.I.D.. WHAT I CALL THIRD DOWNTOWN BELLTOWN. THE LAST TIME, I WILL SAY THE TERM THIRD PIKE AND PINE. I WILL NOT SAY THAT ANYMORE. IT IS THIRD DOWNTOWN BELLTOWN. WE HAD TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY, THE OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY, WITH ALL HANDS ON DECK, WHETHER IT IS SPD, C.A.R.E., THE NONPROFITS AND THE LIKE. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CHALLENGE FLEXES, SO WE KNOW THAT THIS MASS CASUALTY EVENT IN THE C.I.D., THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS FLEXIBILITY AND HAVE ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX, ESPECIALLY AS WE ARE IN THIS BRIDGING FUNCTION FROM ALL THE WORK WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF GETTING TO A BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY POSTURE FOR THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO, AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> IF THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE, THERE WAS A MIC DROP. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA AND THEN COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AMENDMENT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS ALONE, BUT NEWS ARTICLES ABOUT THE SITUATION AT 12th AND JACKSON. FOR A LONG TIME NOW, I HAVE BEEN FEELING THAT THE C.I.D. DOES NOT GET THE ATTENTION IT NEEDS TO GET. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. THIS IS, AS COUNCILMEMBER WOO SAID, A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE COORDINATION PIECES BETWEEN ALL THESE EFFORTS THAT WE ARE DOING, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE ARE GOING TO COORDINATE THESE RESPONSES THAT WE ARE DOING IN THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALSO HAVE EXPANSION OF OUR CARE PROGRAM, AND SOME OTHER EFFORTS OF THIS NATURE. WE DELIVER C.A.R.E. AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, AS WELL. DEFINITELY, WE NEED SOME TYPE OF COURT NATION POINT. I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT I APPRECIATE, ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT COORDINATION PIECE. ALL THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING IN THE C.I.D.. I BELIEVE PART OF THE RESTORATION DIRECTOR WILL BE COORDINATING SOME OF THAT WORK, SOLOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT, FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY STANDPOINT, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING ALL THE NEEDS , AND WHAT, AND HOW MUCH WE ARE PUTTING INTO ALL OF THESE EFFORTS, SO, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COORDINATING, THE COORDINATION EFFORTS, MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I MUST SAY THAT I TOO PAUSED ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE, SO I DID ASK THE MAYOR'S OFFICE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE EVALUATION. I WAS ASSURED THAT THIS WORK WILL GET DONE. I ALSO TRUST THAT COUNCILMEMBER WOO KNOWS WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS , AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU. >> OH, SORRY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS CBA. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE WORKING WITH WE DELIVER CARE, AND THAT WE PARTICULARLY MOVE SOME OF THAT FOCUS, THAT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE CHAIR THAT THE FUNDING SOURCE IS REALLY PROBLEMATIC FOR ME, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS IS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE -- IT HAS NOT BEEN SEEDED FOR FOUR YEARS. WE ARE LATE TO THE GAME IN BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND BEST HOW THE JUMPSTART PAYROLL EXPENSE TAX IS PERFORMING, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS, BUT REALLY ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PARTICULAR FUNDING SOURCE IT IS TAKEN FROM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COLLEAGUES? SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> NO. >> SEVEN IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES, AND HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. SORRY. THAT WAS THE SUBSTITUTE. SO HSD-036-A-1 HAS BEEN REPLACED BY HSD-036-B-1. WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME OUT . I WILL MAKE -- IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS FINISHED DISCUSSING THE AMENDMENT. I WILL SHARE MY PERSPECTIVE, THEN I WILL PASS IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER WOO FOR FINAL COMMENTS. I HAVE ALREADY SHARED THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THE ISSUE FOR ME HERE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE THAT THIS COUNCIL -- OR I GUESS THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IN CHINATOWN INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. I KNOW YOU HAVE MADE INVESTMENTS OVER THE YEARS. THE HST TRANSPORTATION SERVICES IS ONE OF THOSE. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, YOU CAME TO THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS THIS YEAR. IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT YOU ARE THE DAUGHTER OF SEATTLE, AND THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND APPOINTED COUNCILMEMBER, WE HAVE INVESTED MORE MONEY INTO THE C.I.D., SINCE I THINK UNCLE BOB SANTOS WAS AROUND. WHILE I SEE MORE AS A SISTER AND NOT AN AUNTIE, UNCLE BOB BROUGHT AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF ORGANIZATION AND RESOURCES TO C.I.D.. ACRS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. AND SO, THROUGH THIS YEAR, YOU HAVE BROUGHT OVER $1 MILLION OF INVESTMENT TO THE C.I.D., AND IT IS REALLY INCREDIBLE. I SUPPORT THIS WORK. I SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS TO GET THE MOBILE CLINIC DOWN THERE, AS WELL. I WILL SPEAK TO MY PROBLEMS WITH THAT SITUATION LATER, BUT I WANT TO RAISE UP THAT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HARD TO REACH GETTING TO UNCLE BOB'S STATUS IN 11 MONTHS, BUT YOU SURE HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. I KNOW I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THE ATTENTION YOU BROUGHT TO THE ISSUES THERE, AND YOUR WORK REFLECTS THAT INVESTMENT. SO, THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. ANY FINAL COMMENTS? >> YES. THANK YOU. SO, THIS IS TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR WDC PRESENCE AND L.E.A.D. PRESENCE IN THE 12th. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 2+ YEARS. IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THAT GETTING THAT RECOGNITION ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH SMITH'S OFFICE FOR THAT FUNDING, POPULAR IN OCTOBER 2 DOZEN 25, IS HELPING [ INAUDIBLE ] TO MATCH THAT INVESTMENT. AHEAD OF THAT FUNDING WITH THAT NAVIGATION CENTERED TRANSITION AND EARLY [ INAUDIBLE ] WHILE WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE RECOGNITION AND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING IN PLACE, IN LITTLE SAIGON CURRENTLY, WITH EMPHASIS CONTROLS, AND THE ACTIVATION FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, IT IS NOT A CONSTANT PRESENCE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ARE HOPING FOR. WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY THAT KIDS ARE AFRAID, GETTING ONTO SCHOOL BUSES. SOME AT SIERRA HIGH SCHOOL IS NEXT TO THE LITTLE SAIGON AREA. WE ARE HEARING FROM SENIORS AND ELDERS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING -- SNEAKING INTO THEIR SENIOR HOUSING AREAS AND KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS AND TRYING TO BREAK INTO THEIR ROOMS AT NIGHT. SENIORS DON'T COME OUT AFTER 4:00. WE HAVE 2000 SENIORS LIVING IN THAT AREA. ALSO, BUSINESSES HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN CRISIS SITUATIONS COME INTO THEIR STORES, AND THEY DON'T KNOW TO DO. THEY DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO CALL. AND SO, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE PRESENCE TO HELP BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS OUR KIDS, WHO LIVE THERE, FAMILIES, AND OUR SENIORS. WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON LITTLE SAIGON, AS WELL IS GETTING PEOPLE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO COME INSIDE, OR TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT ADDICTION, AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT OF ILLEGAL MARKET THERE, AS WELL AS DRUG SALES. WHICH, HAS, UNFORTUNATELY, FLOURISHED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS ADDITIONAL PRESENCE, AS WELL AS A CONSTANT PRESENCE, AND I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, AND THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY FOR EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE FOR THE DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER WOO. THAT WAS THE FINAL DISCUSSION. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON SUBSTITUTING HSD-036-B-1? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> NO. >> SEVEN IN FAVOR, TO MAKE A POST. >> IN QUEUE. THE MOTION PASSES. HSD-036-B-1 IS ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. LET'S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I BELIEVE YOU ARE THE SPONSOR. >> THANK YOU, SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HSD-039-A. >> THIS WOULD INCREASE FUNDING BY 527,000 AND JUMP START FUNDS IN 2025 AND 2026, AND REDUCE A SIMILAR APPROPRIATION [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE A TRANSFER OF JUMPSTART FUNDS FROM [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THIS WOULD MOVE ALL THE MONEY, CONTRACT FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, INCLUDING RENT ARREARS INTO HSD TO ALLOW FOR HOPEFULLY ADDITIONAL CLARITY IN WHAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS AVAILABLE AND SOCIALIZE THE ADMIN SHOULD'VE WORK IN CONNECTING THIS FUNDING TO THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE GETTING IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVED. THIS ACTION TRANSFERS THE APPROPRIATION TO HSD. THE APPROPRIATION WILL BE DISPERSED BY HSD TO COVER RENT ARREARS UPON NOTIFICATION OF SETTLEMENT OF EVICTION ACTIONS, AND WOULD ALSO MAKE THAT DISPERSAL CONTINGENT UPON THE HOUSEHOLD REMAINING HOUSE, WHICH ISN'T ALWAYS HAPPENING, SO THIS IS A WAY TO EFFICIENTLY ALLOCATE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. EFFICIENT ALLOCATION OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE, AND I BELIEVE THAT HSD, SINCE THEY HOLD MOST OF THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONIES, IT IS THE CORRECT PLACE TO DO SO. I WOULD ENCOURAGE A YES VOTE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, I SEE YOU HAVE A HAND. >> I WILL TAKE IT AWAY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING, SO HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES, FOR LEGAL EVICTION DEFENSE, SO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THE FUNDING, THIS FUNDING GOES TO LANDLORDS ON BEHALF OF TENANTS. >> IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW THE FUNDING WILL BE ALLOCATED. THERE IS A FOLLOWING SLIDE FROM HSD ON EFFICIENT ALLOCATION. [ INAUDIBLE ] AS IT IS NOW, APPROPRIATIONS TO THE SEATTLE THE PROMPT OF CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS DISPERSED BY THE HOUSING JUSTICE PROJECT AND [ INAUDIBLE ] IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TRICK TO, THAMES LAW CENTER [ INAUDIBLE ] IN CONJUNCTION WITH LEGAL DEFENSE. [ INAUDIBLE ] THE DISBURSEMENTS MAY DEPEND ON THE OUTCOME OF THE EVICTION PROCEEDING. >> BUT THE FUNDING IS INTENDED TO GO TO LANDLORDS TO PAY FOR ARREARS, RIGHT? OR TO MAKE SURE THAT EVICTION IS PREVENTED. >> ULTIMATELY, YES. >> IT ALSO GOES TO COLLECTION AGENCIES FOR ARREARS. IS THAT DOSE >> I'M NOT SURE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT GOES FOR PAST RENTAL DEBT, AS WELL. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE DOSE THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS, SO IT SAYS THE FUNDS WON'T BE DISPERSED UNTIL [ INAUDIBLE ] >> AND I WILL CALL ON COUNCILMEMBER MORE TO RESPOND. THANK YOU. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU ARE CORRECT. THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY SERVICES -- PART OF THEIR CONTRACT IS THEY GET MONEY THAT THEY UTILIZE IN RESOLVING EVICTION CASES BY ENTERING INTO PAYMENT PLAN, MAKING PAYMENTS. SOMETIMES, THOUGH, THE TENANT HAS MOVED OUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, AND THEN THE LANDLORD STILL GETS PAID. SOMETIMES, THE MOVING OUT HAS NOT NECESSARILY BEEN A WILLING DECISION. SO THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS, WE JUST SIMPLY ARE GIVING THE MONEY, INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING THE MONEY IN THEIR COFFERS, WE PUT IT INTO HSD. WHEN THE SETTLEMENT IS REACHED, THEN THEY WOULD NOTIFY HSD TO RELEASE THE MONEY, AND IN THAT NOTIFICATION, THEY WOULD SAY THE AGREEMENT HAD BEEN REACHED, THAT THE TENANT IS REMAINING HOUSE, THAT THEY HAVE NOT LEFT. RIGHT. SO IT IS AN EMPTY UNIT. THE LANDLORD IS GETTING THE BACKPAY. IT IS JUST AN EXTRA SAFEGUARD, WHICH, [ INAUDIBLE ] AND THOSE GROUPS -- THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BOX WAS CHECKED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE DELAY OF DISBURSEMENT HELPS WITH GETTING THE ARREARS PAID. I GUESS WHAT I WILL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING -- SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENT THAT WOULD INCREASE FUNDING FOR THIS RENTAL ASSISTANCE. IN HSD. AND SO, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP FUNDS IN SCDI FOR TENANT SERVICES, PARTICULARLY IF WE ARE INCREASING FUNDING SHORTLY HERE. ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK I WILL BE VOTING NO ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. I PAUSED FOR A MINUTE THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE MY NOTES IN FRONT OF ME ABOUT THIS ONE THIS SEEMS MORE LIKE POLICY -- FROM THE CHEERS PERSPECTIVE, I WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON FUNDING LEVELS, OR, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, YOU HAD AN AMENDMENT YOU CHANGED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DISTURBING MONEY WELL, AND AN EFFICIENT MANNER. THIS IS A POLICY MATTER. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS AT THIS TIME. THAT IS NOT FROM THE CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE'S PERSPECTIVE. COLLEAGUES, AND OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU. AS COSPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION, I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE, AS CHAIR OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, HAS DONE HER DUE DILIGENCE ON THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND RENTAL SERVICES AND EVERYTHING THAT ENCOMPASSES THAT? I'M IN FAVOR OF EFFICIENCY IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE RUNNING SIMILAR PROGRAMS UNDER ONE DEPARTMENT, RATHER THAN ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. I KNOW THAT HSD IS THE MAIN DEPARTMENT IN MY MIND, HERE, AS OPPOSED TO SDCI. BECAUSE SDCI -- I GET THAT THEY ARE THE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF, BUT THEY ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY WORKING WITH THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR THIS INVESTMENT, SO I SEE THIS AS, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE ADDRESSING THE , HOW DO WE PUT ALL THE FUNDING SERVICES THAT ARE INTENDED FOR ONE CONSTITUENCY, AND TO ADDRESS A SIMILAR ISSUE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA, AND I SEE THAT AS A GOOD GOVERNANCE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE. SOMETIMES, WHEN IT'S DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT APART -- DEPARTMENTS, WE START TO LOSE TRACK, AND IT IS NOT CORD NEEDED, AND SO THIS IS WHY I LENT MY NAME TO SPONSORSHIP OF THIS LEGISLATION, AND WHY I WILL BE VOTING FOR IT. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> COLLEAGUES, FURTHER DISCUSSION? LAST CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION. LAST CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION. LET'S CALL ON FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON ITEM HSD-024-A-1. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> ABSTAIN. >> SEVEN IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSTENTION. >> THE MOTION CARRIES. HSD-024-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE A SPONSOR OF THIS NEXT ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR ITEM? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HSD-040S-A. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE HSD-040S-A. MR. FREEMAN, BACK TO YOU. >> HSD-040S-A IS STATE OF LETTERS THAT IF INTENT TO STATE THAT HSD REPORT ON HOW BEST TO DISTRIBUTE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS. THE REPORT WOULD BE DUE TO THE COUNCIL NO LATER THAN JUNE 30th, 2025, AND PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE NEXT RFP FOR HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE REPORT WOULD INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF RESEARCH AND BEST PRACTICES, AN EXPLANATION -- OUTCOME DATA FOR RESPONSE IT'S, AND THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, AND COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. TO THE ISSUES OF GOOD GOVERNANCE, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TRYING TO HOUSE ALL RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN ONE PLACE. OH AS -- HAS AN UNDERSTANDING. HSD HAS RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONEY, AS WELL. THAT MONEY GOES OUT.I THINK THERE ARE 11 COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY CONTRACT WITH TO DISTRIBUTE THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND, THIS IS TRYING TO GET BACK TO FIGURING OUT, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY, SHOULD WE CONSOLIDATE TO HAVE ONE MAJOR CONTRACT LIKE WITH UNITED WAY? OR SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO UTILIZE THE SMALLER GROUPS, AND ALSO, HOW DO WE PROACTIVELY IDENTIFY HOUSEHOLDS BEFORE THEY GET INTO TROUBLE? AND I NOTE THIS IS A CUTTING EDGE ISSUE IN HOMELESSNESS WORK, ABOUT WHAT ARE THE RED FLAGS? THIS IS A WAY FOR US TO FURTHER EXPLORE THAT AND SEE WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING. AND THEN GET BACK TO US WITH THE REPORT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. THIS IS A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT FOR WAYS TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE EFFICIENT, WHICH FALLS UNDER GOOD GOVERNANCE. WE WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. COLLEAGUES -- COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT, FIRST, AND THEN I DO HAVE I GUESS AN ORAL AMENDMENT, IF I MIGHT. >> SORRY. POINT OF ORDER -- THE SAME ROLES AS YESTERDAY APPLY TO VERBAL AMENDMENTS, WHICH, ESSENTIALLY, COLLEAGUES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE TOLD CENTRAL STUFF, OTHERWISE, THEY WILL NOT BE READY, AND WE HAD TO HAVE IT UP ON THE BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. BACK TO YOU. >> THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY, AS COUNCILMEMBER MOORE MENTIONED, THERE ARE SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS RIGHT NOW THAT HELP IDENTIFY , PARTICULARLY IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, WHO NEEDY FAMILIES ARE, AND FAMILIES THAT ARE AT RISK, SO I DO THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF CONTRACTING WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, SO, YOU KNOW, [ INAUDIBLE ] FINDS PEOPLE THAT SPEAKS SPANISH AND THEY CAN PROVIDE TENANT SERVICE TO THEM, OR SOMALIA FAMILY SERVICES, OR REFUGEE WOMEN'S ALLIANCE. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THESE STEPS THEY MAY BE VERY SMALL ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THEY ARE CONTRACTED BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, HSD MIGHT NOT TYPICALLY CONTRACT WITH, OR HAVE ACCESS TO. THAT SAID, I DO THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT DO ALL OF THIS WORK BETTER, AND SO THAT IS THE SPIRIT BEHIND THIS AMENDMENT. WHICH, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND I DISCUSSED. ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE MOVING MONEY OUT OF SDCI, THAT THIS REPORT INCLUDES SDCI, SO WE CAN GATHER INFORMATION FROM BOTH AGENCIES, BOTH DEPARTMENT, AND THEIR EXPERIENCES, AND COME ACROSS THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING. >> OKAY. I MOVE AMENDMENT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. >> I WILL HELP YOU OUT. IT IS AMENDMENT VERSION 2 OF -- THERE IS DISCUSSION BUT I AM LOSING MY MIND ON DAY THREE OF VOTING. COLLEAGUES, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES IS A SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. YOU HAVE ADDRESSED IT. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS A SPONSOR OF THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE SPOKEN TO COUNCILMEMBER MORALES ABOUT THIS ADDITION, AND I DO CONSIDER IT A FRIENDLY ADDITION AND A GOOD IDEA. >> THANK YOU. DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? SEEING NOT COME WITH THE CLERK CALL ROLE ON AMENDING 120905 -- HSD-040S-A-1 FOR VERSION 2. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> AMENDMENT HSD-040S-A-1 HAS BEEN REPLACED BY VERSION 2. COLLEAGUES, IS THERE DOSE WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE NOTION ANYONE HAVE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] GREAT. I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THIS IS GOOD GOVERNANCE. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE , ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> NO. >> WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON HSD-040S-A-1, VERSION 2? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> NINE IN FAVOR, NOT OPPOSED. >> HSD-040S-A-1, VERSION 2 WILL BE ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, THE NEXT ITEM IS YOURS, AS WELL. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE NEXT ITEM? >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE HSD-041-A-1. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO -- FOR HSD-041-A-1. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> HSD-041-A-1 WOULD INCREASE APPROPRIATIONS TO HSD BY 2.3 MILLION JUMP START FUND 2025 FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. APPROPRIATION, TOGETHER WITH THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, 001 A1 WHICH APPROPRIATE 9 MILLION IN 2025, UPPER PATIENTS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION. [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBERS MOORE, SAKA, AND MORALES. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'VE BEEN SORT OF A BROKEN RECORD LATELY. WE KNOW THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS FAR AND AWAY THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY AT KEEPING PEOPLE IN HOUSING, RATHER THAN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE BACK INTO HOUSING ONCE THEY ARE ON THE STREET, OR LIVING IN THEIR CARS OR RVs. AS HAS BEEN STATED HERE, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF BACKEND WORK IN PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT WE ARE ALSO REALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY ARENA, AND I WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT BEING PROACTIVE IN THE HOUSING ARENA, AS WELL. THE HOMELESSNESS ARENA. AND THIS IS REALLY THE IMPETUS FOR THIS. AS I MENTIONED, THERE IS THE UNITED WAY, WHICH PROVIDES -- THEY ARE ONE OF THE MAJOR PROVIDERS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE DURING COVID. YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE 5600 PEOPLE IN SEATTLE WHO ARE ON A WAIT LIST FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT NEEDING $10 MILLION TO RESOLVE THEIR BACKLOG. THIS IS 3.3. COMING FROM JUMPSTART. I THINK, IN THE LONG RUN, IT WILL SAVE US MONEY IF WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE GRANTS OF 500, $1000, SOMETIMES SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED. AND I DO WANT TO JUST REITERATE THE STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY RECEIVING THE SUBSIDIES FOR THEIR HOUSING UNDER THE MULTI FAMILY TAX EXEMPTION CREDIT PROGRAM, WHICH IS 60% AMI, 25% OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE SEVERELY COST BURDENED, SO THEY ARE PAYING 50% OF THEIR RENT -- OF THEIR INCOME IN RENT AND UTILITIES. IN ACROSS THE CITY, WE HAVE 19% OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE SEVERELY COST BURDENED. AND RENT -- I THINK WE HEAR THIS FROM EVERYBODY. RENT REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE IN OUR CITY, AND SO, THIS IS A WAY TO BEGIN TO CHIP AWAY AT THAT, AND TO PROVIDE, AGAIN, A PROACTIVE SAFETY NET, AND I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. FROM BUDGET CHAIRS PERSPECTIVE, I SUPPORT THE FUNDING ALLOCATION, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THE FUNDING SOURCE. COLLEAGUES, WE WERE FORCED TO USE MORE MONEY FROM THE JUMPSTART RESERVE FUND THAN ORIGINALLY DESIRED BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTURN FORECAST MID BUDGET CYCLE. THROUGH CORRECTING OF ERRORS AND THE WORK THAT IT DOES TO CHECK THE DETAILS BETWEEN THE CHAIRS PACKAGE AND THIS WEEK, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO BUFFER THAT. THAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOORE IS IDENTIFYING . FOR THOSE REASONS, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, ALTHOUGH I SUPPORT INCREASING RENTAL ASSISTANCE. COUNCILMEMBERS, FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON MY FINANCE COMMITTEE HAD ON, AND SECOND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. OBVIOUSLY, RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS AN APPARENT TOPIC. I UNDERSTAND THROUGH THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET THROUGH HSD AND SDCI, WHICH WILL SOON BE ALL HSD, IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT AS YOU NOTED, THIS IS BUDGETING 101, AND WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE RESERVE IS THERE, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE MAIN RESERVE WAS DEPLETED, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE FORECAST POINTS. BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT IS GOING TO BE GUIDING MY VOTE. THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WILL SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MANY OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON THIS ISSUE IN VARIOUS FORMS INCLUDING JUST NOW BY THE SPONSOR, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, AND COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE'S COMMENTS AS WELL. I WILL JUST ADMIT THAT THIS ONE HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY A PERPLEXING DECISION FOR ME IN TERMS THAT ARE CHALLENGING DECISION FOR ME, PROBABLY THE MOST -- THE SINGULAR BIGGEST DECISION THAT I'VE HAD TO GRAPPLE WITH DURING THESE BUDGET DELIBERATIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW, ALTHOUGH THIS ONLY CAME UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO, I AM -- THERE IS DEFINITELY MERIT ON EITHER WAY -- WHEREVER YOU LAND ON THIS ISSUE. I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT. I DON'T LOVE THE SOURCE, TO YOUR POINT, MR. CHAIR. BUT, IT IS FOR NOT ONLY A GOOD CAUSE, BUT AN ESSENTIAL CAUSE, SUPPORTING THOSE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF STABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL, CRITICALLY NEEDED UPSTREAM INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN MAKE NOW IN THIS MOMENT TO PREVENT SOME OF THE -- WHAT WE KNOW TO BE DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS. PEOPLE INCREASING -- INCREASING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND SO, I THINK NEXT YEAR, AND GOING FORWARD, I WILL PERSONALLY BE A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS, BUT THIS YEAR, I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THIS BIGSHOT IN LARGE PART BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT PREVENTATIVE MECHANISM, AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AND HER LEADERSHIP FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD, AND IN HER CAPACITY AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, FOR LEADING AND CONTINUING TO LEAD AND DRIVE ON THESE ISSUES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS PAPER TODAY, INDICATED THAT SEATTLE IS IN PART DEALING WITH THE INFLATION WE ARE DEALING WITH BECAUSE OF OUR HOUSING COSTS. WE KNOW THAT 50% OF SEATTLEITES, OUR NEIGHBORS, WE KNOW THAT HOUSING IS GOING UP, AND THAT PEOPLE ARE AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. SO, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CASE MANAGEMENT PROVIDED BY HSD IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE ECOSYSTEM. I DO ALSO BELIEVE THAT THESE FUNDS SHOULD BE CONNECTED WITH EDUCATION OF RENTERS ON WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AND WHAT KIND OF RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE, SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONNECTION THERE, BUT I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS IN A YEAR, WHEN WE ARE SPENDING TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T PREVENT HOMELESSNESS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS ONE TIME SWAP TO MAKE SURE WE ARE KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. THANK YOU. >> WELL SAID. COLLEAGUES? >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I ALSO HAVE -- THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION. I VERY MUCH SUPPORT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND YET, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT TAKING THE LAST OF THE JUMPSTART RESERVES FOR THIS PURPOSE. BECAUSE OF THAT, I WILL VOTE NO ON THIS, BUT THAT DOES NOT INDICATE MY APPRECIATION FOR THE CHAIR, AND I FULLY AGREE WITH -- SORRY -- THE COMMITTEE CHAIR -- AND I FULLY AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MOORE -- AND I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOU ON THIS ISSUE. I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND THEN, ALSO, GRAPPLING WITH NOT HAVING ANY JUMPSTART RESERVES TO MANAGE ANY UNFORESEEABLE THINGS THAT MAY COME UP IN THE NEXT YEAR, SO THAT IS WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, AGAIN, FOR ALWAYS BRINGING THESE ISSUES FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> COLLEAGUES, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LAST CALL FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> DURING THE FIRST BUDGET, I REMEMBER ARGUING FOR THE TOPIC OF ASSISTANCE FOR RENTERS CAME UP. I WAS ARGUING VERY STRONGLY FOR DIRECT -- >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, POINT OF ORDER, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOUR VOICE SOUNDS A LITTLE HOARSE. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE CONTRIBUTING. >> I WAS JUST SAYING THAT IN THE FIRST BUDGET YEAR, I REMEMBER WHEN ASSISTANCE FOR RENTERS CAME UP, I WAS ARGUING STRONGLY FOR DIRECT ASSISTANCE TO ACTUAL RENTERS, INSTEAD OF THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS -- ATTORNEYS, ET CETERA, THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN EFFICIENT WAY OF KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED. AND, I STILL DO BELIEVE THAT. I AM ALSO MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT I REMEMBER THAT -- REMEMBER ENRON? IT IS PERFORMING VERY WELL. WE NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. [ INAUDIBLE ] I HAVE CONCERN ABOUT USING THE VERY LAST BIT OF OUR RESERVES ON THIS ITEM. I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE, THOUGH, THAT WE DO NEED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE AT RISK OF EVICTION , JUST FOR PEOPLE'S INFORMATION, THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET HAS -- HAD 4.8 MILLION IN HSD , AND 527,000 IN SDCI. I BELIEVE THAT HSD 001 LETTER A , THAT INCLUDED 1.9 MILLION. THIS INCLUDES 3.3 -- THERE WAS ANOTHER BUDGET ITEM THAT CONTRIBUTED THAT BASICALLY SWITCHED FUNDING, BUT SHOULD ALL OF THESE PATHS -- WE WOULD HAVE 10 MILLION IN THAT DOSE THAT PROBABLY STILL IS NOT ENOUGH, SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A TOP BUDGET CONVERSATION, AND THIS IS SIGNALING THE NEED TO REFOCUS ON THIS AS A BODY OF WORK GOING FORWARD. I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE DIMINISHMENT OF OUR RESERVES. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A CUSHION THERE. BUT, JUST THROWING MY THOUGHTS IN THE RING. THIS IS AN ISSUE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MORE MOVING FORWARD. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THANK YOU. LAST CALL. LAST CALL ON COMMENTS. LAST CALL ON COMMENTS. I WILL MAKE MY FINAL COMMENT AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER MOORE AS A SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. THIS IS THE RARE TIME THAT I WILL CHANGE MY MIND ON THE DAIS BASED ON THE ARGUMENTS MADE BY COLLEAGUES. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA, WELL SAID. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, WELL SAID. TO MY TEAM WATCHING, SORRY THIS IS A SURPRISE ON THE DAIS. I HAVE CHANGED MY POSITION ON THIS ITEM. IT IS A YEAR TO GO BIG. IT IS HERE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED. I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF FUNDING IN THE RESERVE ACCOUNT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT IF THIS PASSES, THERE WON'T BE ANY, SO, THAT IS AN ORANGE TO RED FLAG FOR OUR BUDGET ISSUES IF THIS PASSES. BUT I WILL BE VOTING YES. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR CHANGING YOUR MIND ON THE DAIS. AGAIN, SO YES, 4.6 MILLION HAS BEEN ANTICIPATED FOR THE TOTAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE CONTRACT. WITH THE ADDITION THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THE INTEREST ON THE LEVY. WE ARE LOOKING AT PERHAPS 1.9 , SO, BUT TO GET US TO ATTEND, WE NEED THIS ADDITIONAL 3.3. IT IS A ONE TIME HAD. I WOULD NOTE THAT I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT RESERVES AND WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT GOING FORWARD. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT GOING FORWARD. BUT THIS IS THIS IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO SAVE US MONEY, WHICH -- AND DO GOOD WORK AT THE SAME TIME. [ INAUDIBLE ] ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD ASK FOR MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON HSD-041-A-1. >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. CHAIR HOLLINGSWORTH -- >> AYE.. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> ABSTAIN. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> ABSTAIN. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> SIX IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, TWO ABSTENTIONS. >> AS A MEMBER OF THE VOTING MAJORITY, I'M GOING TO DOUBLE CHECK. DO WE WANT TO RECALL THAT VOTE? DOES ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE THEIR VOTE? MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. IT IS -- WE ADOPT HSD-041-A-1. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE YOUR AMENDMENT. I WILL HELP YOU OUT THERE. >> SORRY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I AM ACTUALLY -- LET ME GET TO MY NOTES. SO, THANK YOU. I RECENTLY RECEIVED CONFIRMATION FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT THIS WILL BE FUNDED WITHIN EXISTING FUNDING BALANCES, SO I AM WITHDRAWING THIS AMENDMENT. >> PLEASE NOTE THAT HSD-042-A-1 HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, HSD-043-A-1 IS ALSO REMOVED. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THANK YOU. >> WE ARE CHANGING DEPARTMENTS HERE. HERE WE GO. WE HAVE 13 ITEMS LEFT IN D, I COULDN'T ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN WALKED ON, THAT WERE NOT DISTRIBUTED FOR PUBLIC AWARENESS AHEAD OF DEADLINES. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OFFICE OF HOUSING 005S-A-1. >> YES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE OH-005S-A-1. >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT SARA NELSON. TRACY, HERE AT THE COMMITTEE TABLE. >> SPEC THIS WOULD PROVIDE VACANCY REPORTS. THIS WOULD BEGIN AS OF APRIL 1st, 2025. OH COLLECTS INFORMATION FOR THE RENTAL HOUSING BUILDINGS, WHICH CONTAIN 18,000 UNITS. AS PART OF THE REPORTING PERMIT FOR SUCH BUILDINGS, THIS REVIEW IS DONE AS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS. THE VACANCY INFORMATION IS COLLECTED FROM PROVIDERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FROM THE STATEWIDE ON THE SYSTEM THAT IS OPERATED BY THE WASHINGTON STATE HOUSING FINANCE COMMISSION, ISSUED BY ALL PUBLIC FUNDERS. >> THANK YOU, TRACY. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT OH IS DOING, AND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION ON A YEARLY BASIS, BUT I THINK THAT ALL OF US, WHO SIT ON THE COMMITTEE OF HOUSING [ INAUDIBLE ] HAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT THE DATA IS SQUISHY AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT VACANCY RATES ARE, AND, YEARLY IS REALLY NOT -- WE NEED TO HAVE SORT OF A REAL-TIME SNAPSHOT OF VACANCIES, AND HOW PROGRAMS ARE PERFORMING, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE ARE SEEKING TO EVALUATE THEM, MAKE CHANGES TO THEM. AND WHEN WE CONTINUE TO HAVE FUNDING REQUESTS. SO I RECOGNIZED THAT OH IS FEELING SOMEWHAT UNDER THE GUN IN BEING ABLE TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. I AM CONFIDENT THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO, AND THAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY BEGUN WORKING ON MAKING THE CHANGES THAT THEY NEED, WITH SOME OF THE DATABASES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION GOING FORWARD MORE REGULARLY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. BUDGET COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A GOVERNANCE SITE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE, THEN COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AS CHAIR. THE HOUSING COMMITTEE -- I DON'T SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT I VERY MUCH CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUES, SO I OFTEN DO ATTEND THESE COMMITTEES, DESPITE THE FACT THAT I DON'T SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE. I WILL SAY THIS IS A GOOD GOVERNANCE PIECE, AND ALSO, [ INAUDIBLE ] NOT ALSO -- AND, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECEIVE INFORMATION MORE OFTEN THAN YEARLY, AS WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS EIGHT MIDYEAR SUPPLEMENTAL THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, AND HAVING THE INFORMATION QUARTERLY WILL BE MORE HELPFUL THAN WAITING UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, FOR INSTANCE, TO SEE, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY -- IT MOVES. IT IS NOT A STATIC NUMBER. IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE, AS COUNCILMEMBER MOORE SAID. WE CAN'T SEE IT IN REAL TIME. THAT WOULD BE DAILY, RIGHT? BUT QUARTERLY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, AND I CONSIDER THAT, AS COUNCILMEMBER MOORE SAID, MORE IN REAL-TIME VENT ONCE A YEAR. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, OBVIOUSLY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRESS. THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH GOOD GOVERNANCE ONE-ON-ONE. IT IS IN KEEPING WITH THE SEATTLE HOUSING INVESTMENT PLAN , KEEPING THINGS SHIPSHAPE AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING. THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, IT REFLECTS THE HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IT SPELLS S.H.I.P.. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I DON'T DISAGREE THAT MORE REPORTING WOULD BE HELPFUL, BUT TRACY, THE CBA DESCRIBES A LITTLE BIT THIS STATEWIDE WEB-BASED ANNUAL REPORTING SYSTEM. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS? YOU SAID, THERE'S 18,000 UNITS IN THE CITY, AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IF THERE IS CAPACITY IN THE SYSTEM TO BE REPORTING ON THAT MANY UNITS THAT FREQUENTLY. >> TRACY. >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SYSTEM COLLECTS INFORMATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THE PROVIDERS PROVIDE IT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND IT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR WOULD BE IN FACT SOMETHING THAT HAS OH HAVING TO WORK TO CREATE A NEW SYSTEM BY WHICH THEY WOULD COLLECT THIS INFORMATION AND PROVIDERS WOULD THEN BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT TO THEM. >> OKAY. I DO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PROVIDERS ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF ISSUES RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE UNITS BEING DAMAGED, AND THERE'S A LOT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TRYING TO DEAL WITH REPAIRS SO THAT THEY CAN RELET THOSE UNITS. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS DOING NOW, THE CBA INDICATES THAT O.H. IS WORKING TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE VACANCY REPORTING, BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS SPACE? >> SO AS THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE REMEMBER, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMITTEE ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS ARE FACING RIGHT NOW. VACANCIES ARE ONLY ONE OF THOSE CHALLENGES. OPERATING COSTS THAT ARE SKYROCKETING, NONPAYMENT OF RENT, STAFFING ISSUES, CONTINUING TO PLAGUE THEM, AS WELL AS THE INFLATIONARY COST OF INSURANCE AND OTHER COSTS THAT THEY FACE, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES. THAT MAYOR, AND WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING, WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM, HAVE BEGUN TO CONVENE BOTH OF THE PROVIDERS, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC DEFENDERS, TO IN FACT BEGIN TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTING REALLY HISTORIC CHALLENGES FOR OUR PROVIDERS. THEY HAVE BEGUN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEET AND ARE ANTICIPATED TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, IN EARLY 2025, TO IDENTIFY, WHAT ARE THE KEY ISSUES, AND WHAT ARE THE REGULATIONS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? NOT ONLY AT THE CITY LEVEL, BUT ALL THE WAY FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL ON DOWN TO THE STATE, AND EVEN THE COUNTY LEVEL, AS WELL. >> ONE MORE, CHAIR. >> PLEASE, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> OKAY. SO THE OTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, THIS IS A DUE DATE OF APRIL 1st. IF THERE IS NOT YET A SYSTEM IN PLACE, AND THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE QUARTERLY, THAT MEANS THE QUARTER ENDS MARCH 31st, AND THE NEXT DAY, THIS IS DUE. IS O.H. EQUIPPED TO SUBMIT A REPORT LIKE THAT RIGHT TOM? WHAT MIGHT IT TAKE TO GET THEM THERE? >> AS I INDICATED, THERE IS NOT A SYSTEM , A REPORTING PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THAT INFORMATION. IT WOULD BE A QUESTION TO THE OFFICE OF HOUSING ABOUT COULD THEY STAND IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY CAN COLLECT THE INFORMATION AND GET THE PROVIDERS PROVIDED THROUGH THAT SYSTEM? >> I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT YOU WILL IN FACT ADOPT THE [ INAUDIBLE ] I WOULD SUGGEST THERE MIGHT BE TIME TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO GET THE INFORMATION ON WHAT KIND OF BASIS THAT WOULD MEET EVERYONE'S NEEDS AND INTERESTS. I THINK THERE IS INTEREST IN VACANCY INFORMATION IN TRYING TO COLLECT IT MORE FREQUENTLY , AND FRANKLY, MORE ACCURATELY, AND MORE DETAILED, TO GET SOME OF THESE ISSUES ABOUT WHY DO VACANCIES HAPPEN, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT MAKING SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, BUT THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND THE PEOPLE THAT ON THE SYSTEM, THE DATA SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE FINANCING COMMISSION, AND THE OTHER DEFENDERS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOW. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> OKAY. WELL, I KNOW O.H. IS WORKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT WORKING WITH THE MAYOR, WORKING WITH THE [ INAUDIBLE ] I'M NOT SURE THAT WORKING WITH ANOTHER REPORTING SYSTEM OR SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER CAPACITY TO PROVIDE IS GOOD GOVERNANCE RIGHT NOW, IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE SETTING THEM UP TO FAIL, TO REQUEST SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T DELIVER, SO, WHILE I SUPPORT THE NOTION, IT DOES SOUND TO ME LIKE THAT WORK IS ALREADY IN PLACE, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT HOW THEY GET TO THAT SPOT. I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS, BUT I APPRECIATE GETTING MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU, TRACY. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, IS THAT A NEW HAND? >> I'M GOING TO CALL TO SEE IF ANYONE WHO HAS NOT YET SPOKEN WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, THEN WE WILL CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION I AND YOUR COMMENTS. I KNOW IT IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION. AND SOLIDIFIES OUR INTENT TO GET TO THIS INFORMATION MORE OFTEN. AS WE ARE REHOUSING PEOPLE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHERE THERE ARE UNITS TO REHOUSE THEM TO COME AND I HAVING THIS INFORMATION JUST YEARLY IS VERY DIFFICULT, AND I THINK IT IS ALSO DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS, THE PROVIDERS THAT ARE TRYING TO REHOUSE FOLKS TO SERVICE PROVIDERS, I THINK, SO I THINK THIS IS THE INTENT BEHIND THIS. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION SINCE WE GOT HERE IN JANUARY, BUT GETTING THIS INFORMATION, AND HOW TO BETTER DO THIS. THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA TO THE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS MORE, THIS IS CRITICAL. WE ARE ELEVATING HOW CRITICAL. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT. YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN REQUIRE INFORMATION FROM DEPARTMENTS. WE OFTEN HEAR THAT THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY. IN MY MIND, THIS IS PART OF THE WORK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING ANYWAY, AT THIS LEVEL. SO IF THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO DO IT, I WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AS TO WHY, AND HOW WE HELP GET THEM THERE, BUT I DO THINK IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR US NOT REQUESTING THE INFORMATION. AND ELEVATING THIS, AND, TO ME, IT IS PART OF THEIR WORK, SO HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP THEM GET THIS WORK ACCOMPLISHED? BUT NOW, MORE THAN EVER, IT IS REALLY CRITICAL, BECAUSE THERE ARE VACANCIES. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, EXACTLY, AT ANY GIVEN POINT, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REHOUSE, SO I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS NOT GOTCHA TO THE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM, AND I KNOW FROM HAVING WORKED AT A DEPARTMENT, THAT THE SITE IS A REQUEST. IF WE CAN'T MEET IT, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO SEEK IF THEY CAN MEET IT, OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED, OR WHAT DO WE NEED TO GET THERE? BUT IT DOES ELEVATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, AND IT DOES INDICATE THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION. AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THIS. SO, AGAIN, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. TRACY. >> JUST TO REITERATE, O.H. HAS SAID, AND THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW, WE KNOW THE INTEREST IN VACANCY INFORMATION AS WELL AS OTHER DATA ABOUT PERFORMANCE, THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, I JUST THINK THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT FREQUENCY IS THE QUESTION HERE. >> THANK YOU, TRACY. POINT WELL TAKEN. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE FAMOUS. HERE, IN CENTRAL STAFF. WE CAN'T HAVE ONE MORE FAMOUS THAN THE OTHER, BUT WE CAN SAY THAT YOU ARE FAMOUS FOR THIS REASON BRITT AND THE ANALYSIS AND PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE HERE, DURING BUDGET, I HAVE IMMENSE GRATITUDE. CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE -- I WILL RETAIN MY SUPPORT FOR THIS AND REQUEST THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BEFORE THE FEBRUARY PRE-ADOPTION OF STATEMENTS OF INTENT, WE WORK OUT THE DETAILS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ON THE RECORD. WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE THE FINAL WORD. >> YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT TO THAT. THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE A GOTCHA TO O.H.. AND ALSO, CERTAINLY, IT IS NOT A PROVISO. WE DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO COOPERATE AND BE FLEXIBLE, AND CHANGE DATES, AND WE REALLY JUST WANT TO BE KEPT APPRISED OF THE WORK BEING DONE, AND HOW WE CAN BEST SUPPORT THAT, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON 005S-A-1? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. [ INAUDIBLE ] >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> NO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> YES. >> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU. 005S-A-1 PASSES AND IS ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, YOU ARE THE SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT, IF YOU CAN MOVE THE AMENDMENT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, OH-007-A-1 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. >> I MOVE OPCD-004-A-1 . >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WE HAVE [ INAUDIBLE ] >> THIS IS OPCD-004-A-1 . IT WOULD ENFORCE A PROVISO FOR THE OFFICE OF [ INAUDIBLE ] DEVELOPMENT FURTHER RANGE OF $50,000 WHICH IS TO BE USED FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT TO ANALYZE ZONING CHANGES IN THE CITY'S REGIONAL CENTERS AND URBAN CENTERS, SO THOSE ARE PARTS OF THE CITY. SPONSORS ARE COUNCILMEMBER MORALES , MOORE, AND HOLLINGSWORTH. IT WOULD PROVIDE THAT ANY SUCH AND FOR MENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT LOOK AT A NUMBER OF ISSUES RELATED TO HOUSING, INCLUDING A DEFINITION OF LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, AND HOW LEGACY HOMEOWNERS RELATE TO THE AREAS THEY ARE BEING STUDIED FOR RESOUNDS AND ALTERNATIVELY INCLUDE STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT LEGACY HOMEOWNERS AND TO SUSTAIN THEIR HOMES. STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT HOMEOWNERS IN DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY, IF THEY DESIRE, AND STRATEGIES TO INCORPORATE TOOLS TO INCREASE HOMEOWNERSHIP AND MULTIFAMILY ZONES AND DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU, LISH. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, AS A SPONSOR, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> WELCOME I LISH RELATED OUT PRETTY WELL. COLLEAGUES, AS YOU WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT THIS YEAR, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN INCREASING HOMEOWNERSHIP, AND PARTICULARLY, IN FINDING WAYS TO SUPPORT LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, BLACK HOMEOWNERS IN THE CITY. SO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC REQUESTS TO OPCD, TO IDENTIFY STRATEGIES TO GET THERE, AND REALLY, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US NEXT YEAR, PARTICULARLY AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COMP PLAN AND LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORS. THIS IS A PROVISO. WE ARE NOT ADDING ANYTHING, AND TO CLARIFY, LISH, I WILL ASK YOU TO CONFIRM THAT THIS PROVISO WILL NOT CAUSE ANY DELAY IN THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE SCIS. >> IT SHOULD NOT CAUSE ANY DELAYS. THE PROPOSALS HAVE NOT BEEN ISSUED FOR THIS WORK. THE SCOPE FOR THE [ INAUDIBLE ] OR THE SUPPLEMENTAL [ INAUDIBLE ] HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AND WILL MOST LIKELY THOUGHT OF THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. SO I ASK FOR COLIC SUPPORT SO WE CAN START TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BETTER SUPPORT REDEVELOPMENT AND LEGACY HOMEOWNERS. THANK YOU. AND HOMEOWNERSHIP. THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, IF THIS WAS TO HAVE INFLAMMATION IMPACT, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE KNOW. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT DOES NOT, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. COLLEAGUES, DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION? LAST CALL ON DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. IN TERMS OF TIMELINE, IF THIS WERE TO PASS, HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE, AND ITS RELATIONSHIP ON THE TIMELINE OF THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING UP FOR DISCUSSION ON THE COUNCIL? >> LISH. >> VERY BRIEFLY, THERE ARE FOUR -- THREE CHANGES IN ZONING THAT OPD IS CONSIDERING. THE FIRST WILL BE CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, IMPLEMENTING STATE LAWS THAT NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY JUNE OF 2025. THE SECOND WILL COME RIGHT ON THE TAIL OF THAT. OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE STUDIED IN THE EEIS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS WOULD STUDY OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE NOT IN THE EIS THAT OPCD IS SET TO ISSUE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO. AND, IT WOULD BUILD ON THE DECISIONS MADE FOR THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN BY THE SUMMER. >> HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE TO GET ACCOMPLISHED? >> WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS, IT WILL PROBABLY BE ONE OR TWO YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW COMPLICATED THE ANALYSIS IS, THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS THEY RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC. >> SO WITH THIS BENEFIT AT THIS CURRENT CONFERENCE OF PLAN ON THE TABLE CURRENTLY IF THIS WERE TO TAKE ONE TO TWO YEARS? >> IT IS INTENDED TO IMPLEMENT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN. IT IS A FOLLOW-UP ACTION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> IS THERE A REASON WHY IT WAS NOT INCLUDED ORIGINALLY? >> THE HOMEOWNERSHIP QUESTION? >> THEY HAVE NOT SET THE SCOPE FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS, SO THEY HAVEN'T SAID WHAT WILL BE STUDIED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS IT, SO AS FAR AS GOOD GOVERNANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES, THIS WOULD HAVE THE COUNCIL SAY UP FRONT EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL'S INTENT IS FOR THOSE FUNDS IN THAT ANALYSIS , AND THEN, THEY CAN BUILD THAT INTO THEIR WORK AS THEY ARE DEVELOPING SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE EIS, AND FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR ASSISTANCE. [ INAUDIBLE ] SPECS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THIS IS APPROVED FOR PROJECTS WHERE WE WILL SET THE SCOPE OF THE EIS. THAT WOULD START [ INAUDIBLE ] IN JUNE. >> CORRECT. >> AND WHAT AREAS SPECIFICALLY WOULD THIS EIS FOCUS ON? >> SO THE EIS -- THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS IS INTENDED TO FOCUS ON REGIONAL CENTERS, URBAN CENTERS. THERE ARE 30 ACROSS THE CITY. THEY RANGE IN SKILL FROM DOWNTOWN SEATTLE, TWO MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE ROOSEVELT OR WALLINGFORD OR ADMIRAL. SO IT IS A WIDE RANGE OF SCALES OF COMMUNITIES, BUT THERE AREAS -- THEY ARE FOCUSED ON IN OUR CONFERENCE IS PLANNED FOR MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL USE TO SUPPORT THAT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. >> AND WILL THAT INCLUDE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE BLACK LEGACY HOMEOWNERS? >> YES. DEFINITELY. >> WHAT AREAS WOULD THAT BE SPECIFICALLY? >> WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, AREAS AROUND 23rd AND JACKSON, 23rd AND UNION, 23rd AND CHERRY, AND THEN, DOWN THROUGH THE RAINIER VALLEY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS THAT INCLUDE BLACK LEGACY HOME FAMILIES. >> AND THE RESULT WOULD BE A REPORT THAT WOULD FOCUS ON GENTRIFICATION DISPLACEMENT, AS WELL AS HOW WE BUILD MORE HOUSING? >> THE RESULT WOULD BE THAT AS OPCD IS ANALYZING THE IMPACTS OF THEIR ZONING CHANGES ON HOUSING, PART OF THEIR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE THE IMPACTS ON LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, AND HOW TO BUILD IN TOOLS FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP IN AREAS WHERE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED. >> AND THIS WILL RESULT IN POSSIBLE LEGISLATION WITHIN THREE YEARS? >> CORRECT. >> WITH THAT LEGISLATION BE SUPPLEMENT TO THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ? >> IT WOULD LOOK LIKE NEW RESOUNDS OF THE AREAS ACROSS THE CITIES AND NEW ZONING REGULATIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY COMMERCIAL ZONES. >> THANK YOU. >> SURE. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT ON DOING THIS ANYWAY. I'M NOT SURE WHITELEY WOULD PROVISO MONEY TO REQUEST THE DEPARTMENT TO DO WORK THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS CONTEMPLATING WITH THE DEPARTMENT. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE SCOPING -- THIS IS SCOPING THE EIS ON THE COMP PLAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED YET. >> THANK YOU. LISH. >> IT HAS NOT BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT THIS WILL BE PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. YOU KNOW, I HAVE ASKED HOW THE COUNCIL WOULD BE ENGAGED IN THAT SCOPING. THERE WAS NO ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, AND, YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAS TOLD ME PERSONALLY AS THE STAFFER ON THIS, THAT THEY WILL BE INCORPORATING THIS -- THESE ISSUES IN THE SCOPE. >> I'M NOT SURE. IF WE ARE SCOPING SOMETHING THAT HASN'T YET -- WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE COMP PLANS. >> MAYBE IT HELPS TO TALK THROUGH WHAT THE SCOPING PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. OPCD, AS THE LEAD AGENCY, HAS SOLE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT IS IN THE SCOPE FOR THE EIS. >> YOU MEAN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE DOESN'T GET TOO.SORRY, CHAIR -- MIGHT -- >> LET LISH FINISH THE STATEMENT. >> I'M SURE THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WILL HAVE INFLUENCE OVER THAT DECISION, BUT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OPCD TO DECIDE WHAT IS IN THE SCOPE, UNDER STATE LAW, UNDER THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT. THIS IS AN APPROACH THAT HAS WORKED IN THE PAST FOR COUNCIL TO SAY UP FRONT, THESE ARE THINGS WE WANT YOU TO STUDY IN THE EIS. THERE ARE NO CONSTRAINTS ON THEM SPENDING THIS MONEY. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO SAY, WE ARE INCLUDING THIS IN THE EIS. IT JUST SAYS, IF, AS YOU ARE SCOPING THIS EIS, YOU NEED TO IMPLEMENT THESE ISSUES, ALONGSIDE THE OTHER ISSUES YOU DEEM ARE IMPORTANT. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> LISH, OPCD HAS COME HERE TO TALK TO OUR COMMITTEE ABOUT THE IMPOTENCE OF THESE ISSUES AND WHY THEY SUPPORT THIS BUT WHY WOULD WE THINK THEY'RE NOT INCLUDING -- THEY TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT. WHY WOULD WE THINK THEY WOULD NOT INCLUDE THIS IN A FUTURE SCOPING OF THE EIS? WHY WOULD WE PROVISO THEIR MONEY NOW? >> AND SO, ALL COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED THROUGH ME, AND I FACILITATE THIS POSITION. I AM ALSO GOING TO CALL ON COUNCILMEMBER MORALES AT THIS TIME TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONTEXT, AS THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU. YEAH. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A PROCESS, WHERE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY IS ALLOWED TO WAIT IN ON WHAT WE DEEM TO BE PRIORITIES, THAT OPCD SHOULD CONSIDER, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. AS COUNCIL, AS THE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS MET THIS YEAR, AS THE LAND USE COMMITTEE HAS MET THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM , AND AS WE HAVE BEEN OUT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE HEARD A LOT FROM, PARTICULARLY FROM BLACK HOMEOWNERS, THAT THEY NEED HELP UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BENEFIT FROM THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE THAT THEY HAVE, AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WE AS WE ALL KNOW, IT IS VERY COMP LOCATED. IT IS LONG. IT IS DRAWN OUT. YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR LOANS, ET CETERA. THE POINT OF THIS PROVISO IS TO HELP GUIDE THE DEPARTMENT IN SAYING VERY SPECIFICALLY AND DELIBERATELY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THIS YEAR. AS YOU ARE DOING THIS WORK, PLEASE ALSO MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE SOME STRATEGIES SO THAT WE CAN TALK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OFFER THEM STRATEGIES ABOUT HOW TO GO ABOUT PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, THE SUPPORT YOU NEED, AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS, YOU KNOW, WE PASSED SOMETHING EARLIER ALREADY THAT PROVIDES FUNDING FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PROVIDERS TO LEGACY HOMEOWNERS, SO THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH THE WORK WE ARE TRYING TO DO, AND AS LISH SAID, IT IS NOT CONSTRAINING IN ANY WAY. IT IS JUST ASKING TO INCLUDE THESE ITEMS IN THE BROADER STUDY THAT THEY ARE DOING. AND IT IS REALLY A RESPONSE TO THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM CONSTITUENTS ALL YEAR. >> AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CALL ON DIRECTOR NOBLE AND THEN LISTEN AND BACK TO YOU, VICE CHAIR. I WILL SAY IT HAS BEEN A PRACTICE OF THE COMMITTEE THIS YEAR TO SHOW DEFERENCE TO COMMITTEE CHAIRS FOR THE AREAS OF JURISDICTION WITHIN THEIR COMMITTEES. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES IS THE CHAIR OF THE LAND-USE COMMITTEE. DIRECTOR NOBLE. >> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL APPROACH FOR COUNCIL IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS BODY OF WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVES, COUNCIL DIRECTING TRICK TO EFFECTIVELY DIRECTING THE PROVISO. THIS ISSUE SHALL BE INCLUDED -- IT IS AN APPROACH THAT I HAVE ADVISED INTRO FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS. MORE GENERALLY, IN TERMS OF TIMING -- YES, THE EXECUTIVE HAS NOT SKIPPED THIS, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT ONE OF THE OVERALL FOCUSES FROM THE TIME OF THE UPCOMING CONFERENCE OF PLAN IS INCREASING DENSITY AND HOUSING. THAT ALMOST INHERENTLY HAS ISSUES OF DISPLACEMENT. IT IS HARD TO ANTICIPATE THE BUSINESS OF ISSUE -- [ INAUDIBLE ] WE WANT TO STUDY AND YOU COULDN'T DO -- [ INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL THING TO DO. BOTTOM LINE. >> THANK YOU. LISH. >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU , CHAIR. I THINK WE HAVE HEARD THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS INTERESTED IN THIS. I TRUST THAT THEY ARE, AND SO, I'M NOT SURE WHY WE NEED TO PROVISO -- THIS COULD'VE ALSO BEEN SLIGHT FUNDS NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE WHEN OUR COMP PLAN IS NOT YET COMPLETED. IT IS NOT THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING -- IT IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, A BIG ADVOCATE AND PROPONENTS OF THIS. THAT IS WHAT I AM -- THAT IS WHAT I AM WORKING THROUGH IN MY HEAD ABOUT THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LISH, FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WOO, IS THAT A NEW HAND? >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT EIS DESPERATE THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SELF IS NOT THROUGH AN EIS. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO WE HELP LEGACY HOMEOWNERS OBTAIN A LOAN OR GET TECHNICAL HELP WITH DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS NOT DONE THROUGH AN EIS. IT IS ENVIRONMENT IMPACT STUDY DOSE THAT WILL HELP LOOK AT THE ENVIRONMENT AS IT IS, AS WELL AS, HOW DO WE LOOK AT ZONING? SO, I THINK, IF THE PURPOSE IS TO HELP BLACK LEGACY HOMEOWNERS AND LOOK AT GENTRIFICATION DISPLACEMENT, I DON'T THINK EIS WILL HELP INFORM, BUT NOT DO WHAT WE THINK IT IS GOING TO DO BASED ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING RECENTLY. I KNOW WHAT EIS IS, BUT MAYBE, LISH, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT EIS DOES AND IS? >> LISH. >> THANK YOU. SO THE EIS DOES TWO MAIN THINGS. IT IDENTIFIES POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENT -- OR, LIKELY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM THAT RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED. AND THEN IT IDENTIFIES MITIGATION MEASURES. TO REDUCE THOSE IMPACTS. SO THINGS THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THE PROPOSAL TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO, THESE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO FALL MORE INTO THE MITIGATION MEASURES SIDE OF THE THINGS AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL [ INAUDIBLE ] SIDE, BUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IMPACTS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, UP ZONING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN FURTHER THAN THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, WILL HAVE ON THE SHARE OF HOMEOWNERSHIP, VERSUS RENTAL UNITS, WOULD BE PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> THANK YOU. >> NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR STRAUSS. CLEARLY, AT THE END OF THIS CBA, THE POINTS MADE HERE ARE POINTS THAT I THINK ALL OF US AGREE TO AND SUPPORT. DISPLACEMENT POINTS. THE QUESTION REALLY THEN BECOMES, IS THIS THE VEHICLE IN WHICH TO DO IT? WE HAVE ALL BEEN ENGAGED WITH THEM ON THIS. I THINK THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ENGAGE ON THIS, TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL. THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NEEDED OR USEFUL IN THIS PROCESS? THANK YOU, CHAIR. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. COLLEAGUES COME ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? LAST CALL. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE , IS THAT YOUR HAND? NO? LAST CALL. LAST CALL. LAST CALL. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, A SPONSOR OF THE AMEND COMING UP THE LAST WORD. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT THE FACT THAT THE LAST THREE DAYS, WE HAVE BEEN DEFERRING TO THE CHEERS OF THE COMMITTEES, SO I THINK THAT BEARS REPEATING. THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY IS THAT AN EIS ALLOWS US TO PASS FURTHER LEGISLATION AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS SET THE STAGE FOR BEING ABLE TO PASS MITIGATING MEASURES, AS IT RELATES TO THIS STUDY. IF WE DON'T STUDY IT IN THE EIS, WE CAN'T PASS LEGISLATION AROUND IT. I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER PART OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS REALLY PREPARE US FOR THE WORK THAT WE WANT TO DO LATER. AND, AGAIN, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO RESPOND TO THE REPEATED REQUESTS WE HAVE HAD FROM COMMUNITY, AND I AM URGING YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. CLERK, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL ON OPCD-004-A-1 ? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> NO. >> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. >> YES. >> FIVE IN FAVOR. FOUR A POST. IT PASSES. OPCD-004-A-1 WILL BE ATTACHED TO COUNCIL BILL 120905. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, YOU HAVE THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE US. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE YOUR ITEM? >> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AT THIS TIME, OPCD-005S-A-. >> THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE BOTH [ INAUDIBLE ] AND LISH. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS A STATEMENT OF LEGISLATIVE INTENT THAT WOULD REQUEST THE OPCD PLAN. THROUGH THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE SPONSORED BY COUNCILMEMBERS MOORE AND RIVERA. AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE PROVIDES GRANTS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS SPONSORED BY COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GOALS FOR THE PROGRAM, AND THIS SLIDE ASKS FOR TWO THINGS. TO LOOK AT WHETHER TO FUND SPECIFICALLY PROJECTS FOCUSED ON SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT AND OWNERSHIP, AND TO BETTER SUPPORT THE CREATION OF SPACES DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF FUTURE SMALL-BUSINESS PROJECTS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, AS SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >> THANK YOU. SO AS DESCRIBED, THIS WOULD DEVELOP A REPORT TO EXPAND THE ELIGIBILITY OF EDI FUNDING FOR BIPOC REFUGEE AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE NOTE THAT THE EDI PROGRAM HAS [ INAUDIBLE ] . THIS IS A WAY TO KIND OF AND THE SILOS THAT I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED TO EXIST BETWEEN OED AND OPCD AND EDI, TO GET THOSE GROUPS TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER, AS A WAY TO -- WHAT'S THE WORD? ACCELERATE, EXPAND THAT USE OF EDI FOR ECONOMIC -- TO ACHIEVE THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR BIPOC, REFUGEE, AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, AND ALSO, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY OPCD IS THAT OFTEN IN THE CREATION OF THE SPACES THAT OED DOESN'T NECESSARILY WORK PROACTIVELY WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY SMALL BUSINESSES IN THOSE POPULATIONS THAT COULD FILL THAT SPACE AND BENEFIT FROM THE USE OF THAT SPACE, AND SO WE ARE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S DOSE THAT THAT IS HAPPENING, AND THAT OPPORTUNITY IS NOT GOING MISSED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. AS THE BUDGET CHAIR COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, I PERSONALLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN I THINK CAN BE ANSWERED TODAY, SO I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE. COLLEAGUES, THIS IS THE TIME FOR DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. I WILL UNDERSCORE, THIS IS A WAY TO SUPPORT BIPOC IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE SMALL BUSINESSES AS PART OF THIS WORK, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE STATED GOALS OF THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> OH, I JUST LOST MY PLACE. I'M SORRY. WHAT ITEM ARE WE ON? >> WE ARE ON OPCD-005S-A, WHICH IS THE 154th ITEM WITHIN -- >> GOT IT. SORRY. OH MY GOSH. IT HAS BEEN A LONG WEEK. I ORIGINALLY COSPONSORED THIS AMENDMENT. I DECIDED NOT TO BECAUSE OED ALREADY DOES A LOT OF WORK SIMILAR TO THIS. WE HAVE THE ONLY IN SEATTLE PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE GENERATIONAL WEALTH BUILDING WORK THAT THEY TOOK OVER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS. WE HAVE THE SMALL BUSINESS LEGAL ASSISTANCE, THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT FUND, THE GOOD BUSINESS LEARNING LABS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT OED DOES THAT ALSO TARGET SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES OWNED BY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. I DON'T THINK IT IS AN EFFICIENT USE OF OUR SCARCE PUBLIC DOLLARS TO DUPLICATE THESE EFFORTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS IS NOT THE AREA OF EXPERTISE FOR OPCD, OR FOR EDI, FOR THAT MATTER. SMALL-BUSINESS TA IS NOT WHAT THEY DO. THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO STATE IS THAT THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE WAS SPECIFICALLY DEVELOPED AS A PROGRAM TO CENTER COMMUNITY DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT. NOT TO IMPLEMENT COUNCIL PRIORITIES. I APPRECIATE AND I SHARE THE COUNCILS INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THE GROWTH OF BUSINESSES OWNED BY BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORS, THAT IS A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES I HAVE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT EDI IS AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT TOOL CENTERED ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, NOT SMALL-BUSINESS GROWTH. THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER MOORE FOR INCLUDING MY LANGUAGE AROUND SUPPORTING THE INCLUSION OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECTS OF SPACES DESIGNED TO MEET THE NEEDS -- WITH THESE COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRODUCTS, THEY ARE REALLY NOT AT THE TABLE TO HELP RECRUIT TENANTS FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE. AND SO, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ACTIVE RECRUITMENT HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST BUILDING THE SORT OF LARGE BLANK SPACES, AND THEN WHEN A SMALL BUSINESS WANTS TO GO IN AFTER THE FACT, IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO DO IMPROVEMENTS TO CREATE A SPACE THAT IS SMALL ENOUGH FOR THEM, THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, OR TO CREATE A SPACE THAT ALREADY HAS A HOOD VENT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADD THAT IN. ANYWAY, THE POINT IS, I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A MORE APPROPRIATE NEXUS BETWEEN THE WORK THAT OED DOES AND THE WORK THAT OPCD DOES. THAT IS ON THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT SIDE. THAT IS NOT ON THE SMALL-BUSINESS SUPPORT SITE, SO, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT FROM COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. I THINK ONE THING I WOULD LOVE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY EXCLUDED ARE UNDER RESOURCED, BUT THEY ARE OVER SERVICED, MEANING, WE ARE CONTINUING TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITIES, AND THEN, HAVING OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE THEM SERVICE THEM. AND SO, I THINK -- I HAVE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE COUNCIL. ALL ABOUT ECONOMIC MOBILITY. ONE OF THE PATHWAYS IN WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO GET BLACK -- BLACK COMMUNITY BACK THROUGH THE CENTRAL DISTRICT -- BECAUSE IT IS SO EXPENSIVE FOR PEOPLE TO BUY A HOME IN THE CD DOSE THERE IS A MOVEMENT FOR BLACK BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO BE IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT, AND BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE CREATED WITHIN OUR CITY TO GET MONEY INTO THEIR STORES, AND THEN TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEIR COMMUNITY. IS THIS CONSTANT ECOSYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS ECONOMY. I THINK THAT IT IS A GREAT WAY TO START CHANGING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE ARE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO PREVENT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IS NOT -- IS ALSO THROUGH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT, YOU KNOW, CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH FOR PEOPLE. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> ONE OF MY TOP BUDGET PRIORITIES WAS TO RESTORE THE $2.3 MILLION THAT OED WAS REDUCED BY AND THAT HIT THE COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY AND THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS OF OED THAT HELP BLACK AND BROWN BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY ACCESSING CAPITAL, WHICH IS THE MOST COMMON PROBLEM TO STARTING A BUSINESS IN SEATTLE. THOSE PROGRAMS WERE WELL UTILIZED AND IN HIGH DEMAND. [ INAUDIBLE ] OED HAD A REDUCTION IN BUDGET IN RESPONSE TO THESE PROGRAMS THAT SOME OF THEM WERE JUST BECOMING KNOWN AND UTILIZED IN THE COMMUNITY. [ INAUDIBLE ] SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT -- THE WAY I SEE THIS CORONATION BETWEEN OPCD AND OED IS NOT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THE EDI PIE IS GETTING EATEN BY SMALL BUSINESS INSTEAD OF NONPROFITS -- I SEE THIS AS AN EFFORT TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHEN THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT ON, FOR EXAMPLE, A BLOCK , LET'S SAY, A HOUSING PROVIDER, YOU KNOW, PURCHASES, OR ACQUIRES A BIG PORTION, OR A WHOLE BLOCK. SOME OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES WILL BE DISPLACED, BUT THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THEM BACK. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE MEANTIME? AND SO, WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JUST GIVING FROM NONPROFITS TO BUSINESS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A WAY TO LOOK AT HOW CHANGE IS HAPPENING IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGE, GENTRIFICATION, DISPLACEMENT, ET CETERA. THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO MAYBE SEE WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE BOTH POLICY GOALS, OR A NUMBER OF POLICY GOALS AT THE SAME TIME. >> OKAY. COLLEAGUES, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, IS THAT A NEW HAND? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I DO SEE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH'S COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, BIPOC, SMALL BUSINESSES, THAT IS A WAY TO FOSTER, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONAL WEALTH, AND IT IS VERY MUCH PART OF THIS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HELP COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SUCCEED, NOW, AND MOVING FORWARD, SO I THINK ALL OF THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE INTENT, AND THE STATED GOALS OF THIS PROGRAM, SO I DON'T THINK THERE IS MISALIGNMENT. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO START SEEING THAT BIPOC, SMALL BUSINESSES ARE SO CRITICAL IN BIPOC COMMUNITY, AS A WAY TO ADVANCE COMMUNITY, SO WE SHOULDN'T BE SEEING IT SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER EFIS VERY MUCH A PART OF IT, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WE DO ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES IN GENERAL, BUT PARTICULARLY, BIPOC SMALL BUSINESSES, SO, THIS IS PART OF ALL OF THIS, AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IS THAT A NEW HAND? >> OKAY. THEN, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON BECAUSE BOTH OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN TWICE. SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T SPOKEN AT ALL. WE HAVE TO STAY ON TRACK. SO COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> THANKS. THIS RIGHT NOW IS MY SECOND TIME, BUT I REMEMBERED THAT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES, AND IF THEY ARE IN DANGER OF LEAVING, KEEP THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND KEEP THOSE DROPS. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, AS SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD. SO NOBODY ELSE CAN TALK AFTER COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. >> WHAT POWER. THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR -- TO COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THAT IS WHAT HAS DRIVEN THIS SLY, AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THAT IS ALSO THE THINKING I HAD ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A WAY OF BRINGING THE VARIOUS ENTITIES TOGETHER TO EXPAND THE OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO BEGIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON OPCD-005S-A ? >> COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. >> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER WOO. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER HOLLINGSWORTH. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. TRICK 80 >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> AYE. >> CHAIR STRAUSS. >> NO. >> THANK YOU. OPCD-005S-A1 PASSES. WE ARE GOING TO LUNCH RIGHT NOW FOR 30 MINUTES, AND WE WILL COME BACK , AND WE WILL BE HERE UNTIL WE ARE DONE, AND IF THAT MEANS MIDNIGHT, IT WILL BE MIDNIGHT. WHEN WE GET BACK, I EXPECT NO ADDITIONAL WALK ON AMENDMENTS. IT IS NOT OKAY. IT IS NOT TRANSPARENT. IT IS REALLY NOT COOL. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE SELECT BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL BE IN RECESS UNTIL 12:40 P.M.