>>COUN. BASSAN: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. TODAY IS FEBRUARY 3rd, 2025. AND THIS IS THE 25th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL. WE WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT, WITH COUNCILOR CHAMPINE JOINING US VIA ZOOM. WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT'S MEETING WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: CIVIC PLAZA PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. YOU CAN OBTAIN ONE FROM COUNCIL STAFF AT THE ENTRANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF CAN VIEW THIS ON LIVE STREAMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, AND THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VID DWROE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. CITY COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7 P.M., IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM, WE WANTED TONIGHT'S PROCEEDING TO BE AS CIVIL AS POSSIBLE. NO APPLAUDING OR SNAPPING OR OTHER OUTBURS DURING THE MEETING. THIS MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE RESPECT ONE ANOTHER. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM. PRESIDENT THIS IS RECOGNIZING THE ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE DAY. IF WE HAVE MEMBERS HERE READY TO ACCEPT THE PRESENTATION, I THINK WE HAVE MELISSA. THERE SHE IS. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET -- STARTED. COUNCILOR BACA IS GOING TO START WITH THE PROCLAMATION. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU. WHEREAS, ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE DAY OF THE NEW MEXICO LEGISLATURE WAS FOUNDED BY REPRESENTATIVE MAESTAS IN UNJUNCTION WITH THE WEST CENTRAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GROUP IN 2007 WHEREAS WEST SIDE LEGISLATORS UNIFY ON THIS DAY TO BRING AWARENESS TO ISSUES. WEST SIDE STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN SOUTHERN AND NORTHERN EDGES OF THE BERNALILLO COUNTY GATHER TO CELEBRATE THEIR PRIDE OF THE WEST SIDE -- AND. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S PARTICIPATING WEST SIDE SCHOOLS ARE VOLCANO VISTA, WEST MESA, MARK ARMIJO, RIO GRANDE, EARNIE PYLE, JOHN ADAMS, TIERRA ANTIGUA, KIT CARSON, PAINTED SKY, CHAMISA, CHAPERAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHEREAS, OVER 700 PLUS WEST SIDE DAY PARTICIPANTS ARE INTRODUCED TO THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS ARE PROVIDED WITH A CIVIC CLASSES, AND A TOUR OF THE CAPITAL BUILDING. WEST SIDE DAY PARTICIPANTS ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET LEGISLATORS AND LOCAL ELECTED OFFICERS TO URGE SUPPORT ON ISSUES SIGNIFICANT TO THEM AND WHEREAS THE VOLUNTEER BOARD MEMBERS OF THE WEST CENTRAL COMMUNITY GROUP, ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, AND THE SOUTHWEST ALLIANCE OF NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD RADIATE WITH PRIDE AS THEY SUCCESSFULLY ASSISTED REPRESENTATIVE MASESTAS ORGANIZING THIS EVENT FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS. >>COUN. PEÑA: WHEREAS, THE 16th ANNUAL ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE DAY WILL BE THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2025 IN SANTA FE, NEW MEXICO. BE IT PROCLAIMED, THE CITY COUNCIL, DECLARES THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2025 AS THE 16th ANNUAL ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE DAY. CONGRATULATIONS LADIES. [ APPLAUSE ]. BEFORE WE ASK THEM TO SAY A FEW WORDS, WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE WEST CENTRAL GROUP THAT COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE ALBUQUERQUE WEST SIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, MELISSA AND ALL HER CREW. THIS IS A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE COORDINATING THIS EVENT ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. JUST ACCEPTING DONATIONS FROM PUBLIC ENTITIES, FROM INDIVIDUALS BUSINESSES. JUST TO TAKE KIDS UP TO SANTA FE SO THEY CAN LEARN THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 15 YEARS. AND EVERY YEAR IT'S ABOUT 700 KIDS. AFTER 15 YEARS, THIS SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE GET THE BUSES AND PAY FOR THE BUSES, BURRITOS, AND DO TOURS. WE'RE OVER 11,000 STUDENTS AFTER 15 YEARS. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GUYS AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK. MELISSA, WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS ? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS PROCLAMATION. WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE PART OF THIS EVENT. AND WE DO INVITE YOU ALL TO ATTEND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO. WE'RE ALSO HAVING WEST SIDE DAY LEGISLATIVE RECEPTION WHICH WILL BE AT THE COYOTE CAFE. AGAIN, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR WEST SIDE STUDENTS TO SEE THE PROCESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN SANTA FE DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND EVERY TIME I TALK ABOUT WEST SIDE DAY TO ANYBODY, AT THE CAPITAL, THEY GET EXCITED. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION I HAVE MY BOARD CHAIR ELENE. SHE'S A LIFETIME WEST SIDER. AND WE THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. COME UP AND RECEIVE YOUR PROCLAMATION. I THINK WE'LL GET IT TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. MELISSA, ARLENE, IT'S GREAT KNOWING YOU. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I'VE KNOWN ARLENE'S BROTHER SINCE WE WERE VERY YOUNG. WE'RE TRUE WEST SIDERS, WE'VE BEEN BORN AND RAISED ON THE WEST SIDE. WE CHOOSE TO STAY OUT THERE NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO HELP WEST SIDE BUSINESSES GROW, AND THANK YOU FOR THE DEDICATION AND HARD WORK YOU DO TO HELP THE WEST SIDE BUSINESSES GROW. AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE RECEPTION AFTER WEST SIDE DAY. I TOTALLY SUPPORT EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. REACH OUT ANY TIME, I'LL ALWAYS BE THERE TO HELP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS? THANK YOU, LADIES. I'VE ALWAYS HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT WEST SIDE DAY UP IN SANTA FE. I JUST GOT BACK THIS AFTERNOON. COUNCILOR ROGERS, YOU'RE UP NEXT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT YOU KNOW, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING TRANSIT EQUITY DAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE ROWE RAVEN HERE. I THINK THEY'RE HERE. THERE HE IS. WE ALSO HAVE NICK BAUM, AND RAIL RAVEN TRANSIT ORGANIZERS TO ACCEPT. I'LL START. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S CELEBRATING TRANSIT EQUITY DAY WHICH IS CELEBRATED ON ROSA PARKS DAY. MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER MAGNOLIA PARK IS COUSINS WITH ROSA PARKS. THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL. THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED AT THE TRANSIT CENTER DOWNTOWN HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. WE'LL READ THROUGH THIS. WHEREAS ROSA PARKS BIRTH DAY IS FEBRUARY 4th AND IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE ANDEICATE ABOUT TRANSIT EQUINAECH WHEREAS TRANSITEQUITY IS IDENTIFIED AS MOST IMPACTED, WHICH ARE TRANSIT-DEPENDENT BUS RIDERS AND MOBILITY JUSTICE AND MAKING THEIR OWN DECISIONS AND INFORM AND LEADING DECISIONS ABOUT TRANSIT IMMOBILITY. WHEREAS, EQUITY CONNECTS TRANSIT RIDERS TO EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT, HEALTH CARE, RECREATION AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT PROMOTE THE HEALTH EQUITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT AND GOOD JOBS FORM A KEY PART OF A JUST TRANSITION CONNECTED TO A CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY. WHEREAS, TRANSIT EQUITY IS A RIGHT OF PUBLIC GOOD AND UNEQUAL ACCESS TO TRANSIT BASED ON FACTORS LIKE INCOME, AGE, DISABILITY, GENDER, HAS PERSISTED TO THIS DAY WITH CUTS TO PUBLIC FUND FOR TRANSIT AND SUBSEQUENT FARE INCREASES IN MANY TRANSIT SYSTEMS. WHEREAS, TRANSITIONING OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM FROM PERSONAL VEHICLE DEPENDENCE TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AS WELL AS LOW AND MOW EMISSION BUSES INCLUDE ELECTRIFIED TRANSIT FROM RENEWABLE SOURCES. IT'S KEY TO SWITCHING TO RENEWABLE ENERGY AND CREATING SAFER STREETS AND SUPPORTS HEALTHIER, CLEANER AIR. >>COUN. BACA: WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AS PREVIOUSLY RECOGNIZED ROSA PARKS BIRTH DAY, AND MAYORAL PROCLAMATION ON BUSES AND SOCIAL MEDIA SINCE 2019 AND FUND ZERO FARES, AND WHEREAS THE CITY AND TRANSIT DEPARTMENT FOCUS ON RACIAL AND ECONOMIC EQUITY AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSITT AND THE NEED FOR FREE AND ACCESSIBLE TRANSIT AND WHEREAS THE CITY SUPPORTS EVIDENCE-BASED POLICY MAKE AND PURSUING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND INCLUDING THE CREATION OF AN EQUITY FUND AND OTHER RESOURCES INCLUDING COUNTY AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO SUPPORT TRANSIT EQUITY. AND WHEREAS, BECAUSE OF R-21-231 THE CITY MADE DOCUMENTS ACCESSIBLE TO NON-ENGLISH RESIDENTS AND WHEREAS, THE CITY CONTINUES TO EXPAND MULTILINGUAL YFR AND OUTREACH AND OTHER LANGUAGES OUTLINED. THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE CALL FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO OBSERVE A TRANSIT EQUITY DAY AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AS A HUMAN RIGHT ON FEBRUARY 4, 2025. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THEY HELPED DRAFT THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOT JUST ASKING FOR IT, BUT ALSO PUTTING LANGUAGE BEHIND THAT YOU EDITED JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE STEPS TO SEND THAT WRITE UP TO US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CITY ECONOMIST WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CHRISTINE BURNER WHO WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. GOOD EVENING. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS. THAT'S OKAY. I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. CHRISTINE BURNER, NICE TO SEE YOU. QUICK GRT UPDATE FOR YOU. THIS WILL REFLECT NOVEMBER 2024 REVENUES RECEIVED IN JANUARY OF 2025. THIS FIRST GRAPH SHOWS THE CURRENT MONTH AND YEAR OVER YEAR THAT IS YEAR TO DATE BASED ON THE STATE SHARED 1%. YOU'LL SEE THAT FOR NOVEMBER, WE DECREASED 8.8% FROM NOVEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR. HOWEVER, THAT STEEP DECLINE IS BECAUSE NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR THE CITY RECEIVED A LUMP SUM PAYMENT OF $5.2 MILLION WITH AN AMENDED TAX RETURN, THE BUSINESS DIDN'T REPORT THE HOLD HARMLESS DEDUCTION CORRECTLY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THIS REALLY BIG DECREASE. WHILE IT IS INDEED A STARK DECLINE IN REVENUE FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR, IT IS HEARTENING THAT THIS MONTH UNDERLYING ECONOMIC GROWTH ISN'T AS BAD AS 8.8%. WHEN I CORRECT FOR THAT LUMP SUM, THE GROWTH APPEARS TO BE AROUND 2% FOR US THIS MONTH. THAT WOULD MEAN THE CUMULATIVE GROWTH WOULD BE AROUND 4%. JUST TO REMIND YOU, THE FY25 BUDGET IS BUILT ON EXPECTED GROAT OF 2.1% OVER LAST YEAR. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD -- THIS IS DETAIL ON SECTOR. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE. A LITTLE MORE DETAILED. INDIVIDUAL -- I'M SORRY, SECTOR GROWTH FOR GROSS RECEIPTS, NOT REVENUE BUT JUST THE GROSS RECEIPTS, YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE, TOTAL WITHOUT FOOD AND MEDICAL, FOR THIS MONTH WE HAD 1.3% GROWTH WITH 3.1 YEAR TO DATE GROWTH. AND FOR NOVEMBER, CONSTRUCTION AND BUSINESS SUPPORT INDUSTRIES FAIRED THE WORST. RETAIL HAS BEEN STRUGGLING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT THERE'S MODEST GROWTH, 2%. YEAR TO DATE IS STILL NEGATIVE. I'LL BRING YOUR ATTENTION DOWN HERE TO THE FOED FOOD, HOLD HARMLESS IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT I MENTIONED THAT WE GOT SO MUCH THIS TIME LAST YEAR. I DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS VERY MUCH, BUT EVERY MONTH I HAVE TO ESTIMATE HOW MUCH GRT IS SIPHONED OFF BACK TO THE TAX INCREMENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IN FY24 THERE'S $5.7 MILLION WHICH IS HIGHER THAN RECENT YEARS, BUT A MAJORITY OF THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH NETFLIX EXPANSION IN MESA DEL SOL. WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL CONTINUE ON, I THINK THAT DECREASE WE'RE SEEING IS BECAUSE THAT PROJECT GENERALLY WRAPPED UP. YOU HEARD OF OBON SOLAR, I WISH I COULD MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD MAKE ADDITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE TID. MY TIME SUP. THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, THE LAST LINE, GRANT TOTAL WITHOUT THE PHASE OUT. IF WE HAVE ALL OF THE FOOD AND MEDICAL WITHOUT PHASE OUT, AND WE WEREN'T LOOKING ADTID, THEN OUR GROWTH WOULD BE 4.7% YEAR TO DATE. THAT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO LOOK AT IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. DID YOU SEND THAT OVER TO US? OR CAN YOU, BECAUSE WE COULD NOT SEE IT. >> THAT'S FINE. WE DID SEND IT TO YOU, BUT WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I KNOW THERE'S COUNCILORS THAT ARE MAKING SURE. SO YOU CAN SEND IT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DID SCAN THAT COPY. THANKS FOR SEPPEDING -- SENDING THAT TO US. WHAT MADE FROM THE INCREASE? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED AREAS THAT HAD A DECLINE THIS MONTH. WHAT GAVE, EVEN WITH DECLINES, THERE HAD TO GIVE SOMETHING TO GIVE THE INCREASE. WHAT WERE THE CATEGORIES THAT HAD THE MOST INCREASE? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR LEWIS, SURE. SINCE YOU CAN'T SEE IT HERE, LET'S SEE, HEALTH CARE DID QUITE WELL. 3.7. ACCOMMODATION AND FOOD IS 4.2%. INFORMATION WHICH HAS THE FILM INDUSTRY 4.6%. PROFESSIONAL AND SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNICAL ARE HIGH-PAYING SECTORS THAT DID WELL AT 5%. FINANCE AND INSURANCE, 8.1%. AND UNCLASSIFIED ESTABLISHMENTS, TRANSPORTATION, WAREHOUSING IN DOUBLE DIGITS AT 29.2 AND 34.4. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU MENTIONED CONSTRUCTION, WHAT WAS THE OTHER -- FOOD -- >> I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR THE ONES THAT DID POORLY? >> WHOLE SALE TRADE. CONSTRUCTION WAS DOWN 10.7. ADMINISTRATION AND SUPPORT AND WASTE MANAGEMENT. THEY'RE DOWN 8%. AND EDUCATIONAL SERVICES IS THE TOP TIER. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DID SEE THE CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT SEASONAL IN SOME WAYS? WE'RE TALK YEAR OVER YEAR. IT WAS DOWN 10% LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME. WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OTHER FACTORS THAT WOULD HAVE CREATED THAT TYPE OF DECREASE? >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IT WOULDN'T BE SEASONAL. EVEN THOUGH WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TID ISN'T A DIRECT IMPACT, THERE'S INDIRECT IMPACTS WHICH COULD BE PART OF THIS. THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE CITY. THERE WAS. MULTIFAMILY HOUSING. I THINK IN GENERAL WE'VE SLOWED A BIT AT THIS POINT. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU MENTIONED, MADAM PRESIDENT, THE TID. HOW WOULD THAT HAVE ANY FACTOR INTO THE DECREASE? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR, LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT DIRECT. WE DO GET SOME OF THE GRT AND IF THERE'S A LAW OF CONSTRUCTION AND EXPANDING HAPPENING IN THE TID IT'S POSSIBLE THOSE IMPACTS ARE GOING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THERE ARE SOME INDIRECT IMPACTS. DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL LOOK AT IT FURTHER. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING IT TO US. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HOPE TO SEE MORE GROWTH IN HOUSING AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. ESPECIALLY, I JUST SAW DIRECTOR VARELA WALK IN WITH YOUR NEW SOFTWARE. HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T KEEP DECLINE. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE ADMIN? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO PRAENTATION FROM COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS PRESENTATION FROM ALASKA PIPER. THE MARKET MANAGER DIRECTOR. SHE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE RAILYARDS MARKET. WELCOME. >> GREETINGS, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS. I'M ALASKA, AND I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE NONPROFIT RAIL YARDS MARKET. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US, MANY OF YOU CITY COUNCILORS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLES IN NURTURING THE MARKET WHICH WAS STARTED IN 2014 BY NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS AND VOLUNTEERS. AND HAVE EXPANDED, ORIGINALLY STARTED AS AN INTERIM USE PROJECT AND EXPANDED TO THE CITY GEM THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE. 2024 WAS A PHENOMENAL YEAR AT THE RAIL YARDS, OVER 170,000 FOLKS VISITED. AND 100s OF BUSINESSES GENERATED OVER $3.5 MILLION IN GRT. KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S ONLY FOR SEASONAL EVENTS. THIS IS ONLY 29 MARKETS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IMAGINE WHAT A YEAR ROUND MARKETPLACE COULD LOOK LIKE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT LEADERS AT THE RAIL YARDS MARKET DID. IN 2023, WE CONTRACTED AN INDEPENDENT FIRM, THE BUREAU OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC RESEARCH, TO COMPLETE A STUDY INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF A PERMANENT YEAR ROUND MARKET. IT'S A VERY LONG REPORT, AND WAS PRESENTED AT THE AUGUST 2024 RAIL YARD ADVISORY BOARD MEETING. I WOULD LOVE FOR ALL OF OUR COUNCILOR MEMBERS TO WATCH THAT MEETING AND READ THE REPORT. IN ESSENCE, THE REPORT DID CONCLUDE, IT IS WELL POISED TO GROW INTO THE ROLE OF MANAGING A FULL-TIME PUBLIC MARKET. WHAT WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZING UPDATES TO SHARE INCLUDING A VALENTINE MARKET THIS WEEKEND, I'M HERE TO THANK YOU, OUR CITY LEADERS, WHO INTERFACED WITH MANY DEPARTMENTS OVER THE CITY. SO MUCH SO, FOLKS THINK WE'RE THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NONPROFIT. I WANT TO THANK GENERAL SERVICES. WE HAD AN AMAZING PARTNERSHIP WITH PARK AND RIDE AND ABQ RIDE FOLKS. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH ARTS AND CULTURE ON PROGRAMMING AND PLANNING FOR THE MARKET AND NEW THIS YEAR WE WORK WITH YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES TO DISTRIBUTE A THOUSAND LOCALLY GROWN PRODUCE BOXES TO SCHOOLS AND SENIOR CENTERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU, OUR CITY LEADERS, IT REALLY DOES TAKE A VILLAGE TO GROW AND NURTURE A FARMERS MARKET. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND CITY COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, ALASKA. THE RAIL YARDS MARKET IS A HUGE SUCCESS FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN DOWN THERE. ESPECIALLY ALL THE THEMED EVENTS THAT HAPPENED. HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT THE RAILYARDS. THANK YOU, ALASKA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BACA, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I DON'T HAVE -- FROM WHAT MONTH TO WHAT MONTH IS THE RAIL MARKET ON CURRENTLY, AND SOMEWHAT THE REMAINING MONTHS WE NEED TO FILL IF THAT'S THE CASE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE RAIL YARDS MARKET IS OPEN ON SUNDAYS MAY THROUGH OCTOBER. AND FOR TWO SEASONAL EVENTS. ONE IS THIS WEEKEND, THE VALENTINE MARKET, FEBRUARY 8th AND 9th. THE OTHER IS THE HOLIDAY MARKET WHICH IS THE SECOND FULL WEEKEND IN DECEMBER. BOTH THE HOLIDAY MARKET AND VALENTINE MARKET ATTRACT OVER 10,000 VISITORS PER DAY IN OUR CITY THROUGH OUR DOWNTOWN CORE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? THANK YOU, MS. PIPER, FOR THE GIFTS YOU BROUGHT. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION ABOUT HOW YOU GET NEW VENDORS. I KNOW ON THE WEBSITE PEOPLE CAN APPLY. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IS IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME VENDORS THAT GET THE PREFERENCE. HOW DO YOU DECIDE WHICH VENDORS TO ALLOW AND WHICH NOT TO ALLOW? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE RAIL YARDS MARKET DOES CONDUCT A COMMUNITY AND STAFF REVIEW AND JURY PROCESS. AND WE ALSO HAVE A FREE ON-DEMAND BILINGUAL VENDOR APPLICATION WEBINAR ON OUR WEBSITE. AND OUR APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN MOSTLY YEAR ROUND FOR FARMERS. WE ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM THAT WE CALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUNCTION PROGRAM THAT OFFERS SCHOLARSHIPS TO SPECIFICALLY TO VENDORS FROM THE BARELAS, SOUTH BROADWAY AND SAN JOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. WHICH MAKES SENSE WHY MY CONSTITUENTS CAN'T ACCESS THE RAIL YARDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DID PROVIDE A COPY OF THE ANNUAL REPORT IN THE BAGS AND POPCORN. WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES THAT BLOSSOM AND BLOOM. WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. NEXT IS A PRESENTATION FROM THERESA GARCIA. SHE'LL PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RETRAINING ORDER PACKET. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JOINED -- I'M JOINED BY MY CO-CHAIR, AND ALL THOSE WHO STAND WITH US IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY ON BEHALF OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMISSION TO PRESENT A CRUCIAL RESOURCE. THE DVSA RESTRAINING ORDER PACKET. THIS DEVELOPED IN COLLABORATION WITH COURTS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO PROVIDE SURVIVORS A PATHWAY TO SEEK PROTECTION. IT ALERTED NECESSARY UPDATES AND REVIEW. THIS PACKET IS DESIGNED WITH TWO KEY SECTIONS TO ENSURE SURVIVORS RECEIVE SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE. SECTION ONE, GIVES RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SECTION TWO PROVIDES INFORMATION FOR OBTAINING ORDER OF PROTECTION. WE KNOW THE MAJORITY OF SURVIVORS NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN. IT CAN BE OVERWHELMING ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF CREATES. THIS PACKET IS DESIGNED WITH ACCESSIBILITY. USE SIMPLE LANGUAGE, VIXUAL IDENTIFIERS, AND STEP BY STEP INSTRUCTIONS TO REMOVE BARRIERS AND EMPOWER SURVIVORS. IT ENSURES SURVIVORS ARE AWARE OF RIGHTS AND EMERGENCY PROTECTION ORDER WHICH CAN BE GRANTED IMMEDIATELY IN HIGH RISK SITUATIONS. IN ADDITION, TO PROVIDING UP TO DATE RESOURCES, WE HAVE ALSO INCORPORATED QR CODES. IT DIRECTS SURVIVORS TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WEBSITE TO ACCESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THIS ENSURES THE SURVIVORS CAN QUICKLY AND EASILY FIND THE SUPPORT THEY NEED INCLUDE SHELTER, SUPPORT SERVICES, REACH OUT TO STATE COALITION AND ORGANIZATIONS NEAR THEM AND CALL HOTLINES FOR SUPPORT LIKE THE NEWLY FOUNDED SEXUAL ASSAULT HELP LINE. ALBUQUERQUE IS HOME TO A DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND LANGUAGE SHOULD NEVER BE A BARRIER TO SAFETY. THIS INCLUDES TRANSLATIONS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, SCAN THE QR CODE AND ENSURING EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND RIGHTS AVAILABLE AND INCLUDING OPTIONS INCLUDING THE ASL AUDIO OPTION. THIS PACKET HIGHLIGHTS HIGH RISK FACTORS THAT -- SPECIFICALLY, THE POWER OF CONTROL OF YOU. STRANGULATION INCREASES THE RISK OF HOMICIDE. THREATS OF FIREARMS. BY INCORPORATING THIS INFORMATION SURVIVORS CAN RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND DANGERS OF FIREARMS AND STRANGULATION AND TAKE STEPS TO SAY SAFE. THIS INFORMATION IS CRITICAL IN STOPPING FURTHER VIOLENCE. >> THIS PACKET SIMPLIFIES THE ORDER OF PROTECTION PROCESS WALKING SURVIVORS THROUGH EACH STEP. COMPLETING PAPERWORK, INFORMATION, AFTER YOU FILE THE PROCESS OF SERVING RESTRAINING ORDER AND WHAT TO DO WHEN THE OTHER PARTY VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE. RETRIEVING BELONGS, AND IT'S AN ESSENTIAL PART OF LEAVING THE ABUSIVE SITUATION. MAY I CONTINUE? >>COUN. BASSAN: SHORTEN IT UP AND WRAP UP SO WE HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. >> AND WE ARE ENSURING NO SURVIVOR IS LEFT NAVIGATING THE SYSTEM ALONE. THIS IS NOT A STATIC DOCUMENT, IT'S A LIVING RESOURCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF SURVIVORS OF ALBUQUERQUE WITH REVIEWS, TRAINING, COLLABORATIONS OF THE DVSA PROVIDERS TO TRACK THE IMPACTS AND IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY. THIS PACKET BECAME A REALITY BECAUSE OF THE ADVOCACY AND COLLABORATION OF TEAM MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE RAPE CRISIS NEW MEXICO WHO IDENTIFIED THIS YEARS AGO AND A COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT FOUGHT TIRE TIRELESSLY AFTER EXPERIENCING ABUSE AND GUN VIOLENCE. WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE SURVIVORS WHO CAME FORWARD. YOU COURAGE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO A SYSTEM IN NEED OF CHANGE, YOUR STORY IS ONE OF MANY AND YOUR VOICE MATTERS. THIS WORK EXISTS BECAUSE OF YOUR STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE AND WE MUST MAKE SURE NO SURVIVOR IS LEFT UNPROTECTED. TRAUMA MUST ME ACKNOWLEDGED, AND ACCESSIBILITY MUST BE PRIORITIZES AND WE MUST NEVER REMAIN SILENT IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I WANT TO THANK THIS COMMISSION FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I KNOW THAT OFTENTIMES THINGS FALL THROUGH THE WOODWORK AS ADMINISTRATION CHANGES. WHAT I'M SEEING IS A RESURGENCE THAN WHAT WE HAD WHEN I WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW IF YOU'RE IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS THIS INDIVIDUAL CAN BE REMOVED FROM YOUR PRESENCE. IT ALSO IS RELATIONSHIP-BASED. I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP OR DOMESTIC RELATIONSHIP YOU'RE IN, YOU STILL QUALIFY FOR THESE -- FOR THE HELP. IT'S SO PARENT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S A TON OF HELP OUT THERE. ALL THE RESOURCES, ALL THE PUBLIC RESOURCES, LAW ENFORCEMENT ENTITIES, FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THESE PLACES, ACS, CAN ALL HELP AND RENDER. WHEN YOU ISSUE THAT ORDER OF PROTECTION, THAT ORDER OF PROTECTION IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT HAPPENS AS QUICK AT THE DATE OF THE INNOCENT AND -- INCIDENT. IF YOU CALL THE POLICE, WE CAN ENACT THAT ORDER OF PROTECTION IMMEDIATELY. THE OFFICER CAN CALL IT IN. THE OFFICERS HAVE PHONE NUMBERS TO THE JUDGES, AND WE CAN GET THE JUDGE ON THE LINE AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF ASAP. IT'S IMPORTANT ANY VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT WANT AND NEED HELP, IT'S HERE FOR YOU AND WE'LL HELP YOU IN ANY WAY WE CAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP SAVE A LOT OF LIVES, HELP A LOT OF CHILDREN INVOLVED IN THESE DOMESTIC SITUATION. I COMMEND YOU WITH ALL MY HEART FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST HARDWORKING COMMISSIONS IN OUR CITY. AND IT'S SADLY NEEDED. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ON A DAILY BASIS, WE COUNCILORS, GET EMAILS FROM CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE INVOLVED IN. MANY ARE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CITY OR FROM THE COMMISSION OR -- THAT REACH OUT TO THESE VICTIMS? AND SHARE WITH ALL OF THE GREAT FORCES OF INFORMATION AND HELP FOR THEM? >> ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS SOMETHING SOME COMMISSION IS WORKING ON. WE ALSO HAVE COMMISSION MEMBERS. BECAUSE OF THIS COMMISSION WE'VE CREATED MORE COLLABORATION WITHIN PROGRAMS. WE WORK WITH ACS AND WE HAVE A WEEKLY CALL ON MONDAY IF THERE'S A SURVIVOR THAT NEEDS HOTEL RESOURCES. BECAUSE OF THIS PACKET, IT DOES HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR THE OFFICER TO KNOW WHERE TO SEND THE SURVIVOR. IT HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THERE. IT'S REALLY CREATING THE COLLABORATION AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WITH MORE INFORMATION AS THEY AM -- ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE OUR OFFICERS AND AFR AND ACS HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY SCARED AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. THEY NEED THAT IMMEDIATE HELP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FROM SOMEBODY THAT HAD TO USE THIS PACKET BEFORE, THIS IS A BIG STEP UP FROM THE PACKET I RECEIVED FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD MY EXPERIENCE. THE BIGGEST THING IS THE OFFICER TRAIN. THE OFFICER DID -- THE TWO OFFICERS WERE AMAZING. THEY DID GIVE ME THE PACKET. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, HERE YOU GO. GOOD LUCK, TYPE OF THING. SO, I THINK THE OFFICER TRAIN IN ADDITION TO THIS PACKET AND ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ MENTIONED, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THE OFFICER COULD HAVE DONE IS A 72-HOUR HOLD -- NOT HOLD, EMERGENCY PROTECTION, OR MAYBE THE OFFENDER SHOULD BE HELD. THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. I HAD TO, THE VERY NEXT DAY, FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE THE PACKET, GO DOWNTOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT. THE OTHER PIECE OF THING I WOULD DO IS IT WAS HARD BECAUSE WE EHAD THINGS PRINTED ON ONE OF THE PAPERS. DON'T PRIPT -- PRINT THE INSTRUCTIONS WITH IT BECAUSE I COULDN'T USE THIS. THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW ME -- DON'T PRINT IT THAT WAY. I DIDN'T HAVE A PRINTER AT HOME. I HAD TO LEAVE GO TO A LIBRARY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PRINT ONE AT THE DESK. JUST PRACTICAL THINGS THAT WILL HELP FOLKS UTILIZE THESE TO USE IT RIGHT AWAY AND ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE LOT OF TIMES THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. >> THANK YOU. JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT DOCUMENT CAN BE TORN OFF. THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY GIVEN FOR US TO USE FOR AUTOMATICALLY. SOMETHING ELSE WE ADDED TO THE THE PAPERWORK IS WE NUMBERED THE PAGES. ACCESSIBILITY AND SUPPORT FOR SURVIVORS SO THEY KNOW HOW TO KEEP IT IN ORDER AND HAND IT TO THE OFFICER IN SECOND JUDICIAL COURT. THANK YOU FOR NAME THIS. THIS IS ALSO NEW. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BY SECOND JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT. A LOT OF SURVIVORS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS DON'T KNOW, AND OFFICERS DON'T KNOW, THEY CAN FILE FOR EMERGENCY PROTECTION IMMEDIATELY. >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE MORE THING YOU WOULD ADD IS THE RED FLAG LAWS. IS IT IN THERE? >> IT'S IN HERE. >>COUN. ROGERS: FOR THOSE WATCHING, IF SOMEBODY THREATENS SOMEBODY WITH A GUN THAT ALLOWS APD TO GO AND SEARCH THAT HOME AND REMOVE THE GUN. WE KNOW IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE KILLINGS IT'S USUALLY A GUN. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THANK YOU FOR ADD THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER BIG ONE THAT OFFICERS DON'T UNDERSTAND. THE GUN VIOLENCE TASK FORCE WORKED WITH THE COURTS TO MAKE SURE OFFICERS CAN DO THAT 24-7. IT WAS OMAVAILABLE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 TO 5 BEFORE. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER BIG ONE TO HELP APD BE ABLE TO REMOVE THE WEAPONS THAT CAN POTENTIALLY KILL SOMEONE LATER. >> THANK YOU. WE HAD INTENTION. WE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING FOR SURVIVORS, ACCESSIBILITY, AND INFORMATIONAL RESTRAINING ORDER PACKET. WE HOPE TO CONTINUE OBTAINING YOUR SUPPORT AND HOPEFULLY ENSURE THIS DOCUMENT IS IMPLEMENTED CITYWIDE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND REPLACE THE ONE IN EXISTENCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND ALL THAT COW . >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ADMINISTRATIVE Q&A. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: LET ME FIGURE OUT HOW TO UNMUTE FROM THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. THAT WOULD BE, I RECENTLY SAW A POST BY THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT A WORK RELEASE OR WORK PROGRAM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS DOING. IT LOOKED VERY FAMILIAR TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US A COUPLE MONTHS BACK OF EMPLOYING 16 PEOPLE FROM THE GATEWAY CENTERS AND GIVING THEM FULL-TIME JOBS. I JUST WANTED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FOR THE PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR, IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEPUTY CAO IS ON HIS WAY UP. >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THIS IS SENT DOWN IN A PACKET EARLIER THIS WEEK. IT'S ON CONSENT. THIS IS THE BETTER WAY FORWARD PROGRAM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SO IT IS THE SAME ONE, I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL OR ASKED OR PASSED THE BILL REQUESTING THE ADMINISTRATION TO COME UP WITH A DAY LABOR PROGRAM. THIS IS THAT RESPONSE? IS THAT CORRECT? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT WE STARTED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, YOU PRESENTED THAT TO US IN RESPONSE TO OUR DAY LABOR PROGRAM. IT WAS GOING TO COST $650,000 AND COME OUT OF THE COUNCILOR'S BUDGETS, INDIVIDUAL BUDGET, WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. I GUESS I'M CURIOUS ON WHERE DID YOU FIND THE MONEY IF WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE THE $650,000? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THAT WAS A TYPO IN THE ORIGINAL COVER LETTER. THAT'S WHY WE PULLED IT SO WE COULD GET THE CORRECT INFORMATION IN THERE. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH SOLID WASTE PROGRAM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU ALLOCATED $650,000? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MEET WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. I'D BE CURIOUS. BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED, MADAM PRESIDENT -- WHEN WE PASSED THIS RESOLUTION SAYING DO A DAY LABOR, THIS IS WHAT CAME BACK. I BELIEVE WE VOTED IT DOWN AND SAID COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL ONE THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT THE RESOLUTION SAID, AND WE'VE YET TO SEE IT. I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE STILL WENT FORTH WITH WHAT WAS VOTED DOWN, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND THE MONEY. I'D BE EXCITED TO SEE WHERE IT CAME FROM. >>COUN. BASSAN: ON THAT, CAN YOU REMIND ME, I BELIEVE SOLID WASTE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND, CORRECT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF THAT HAS AFFECT ON BUDGETARY CHANGES, THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. I SEE THAT DR. SENGEL WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. THE ACTIONS THAT OCCURRED WAS THAT IT WAS PRESENTED IN AN EC TO FICO. WE WITHDROOU BRNG WITH WITHDRAW IT. WE PRESENTED A NEW EC TO YOU, WHICH IS ON THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. IT WOULD BE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION. YOU ALL HAVE OFTEN MENTIONED IT'S VALUABLE TO HAVE THE MOST CURRENT INFORMATION PRESENTED WHEN IT CHANGES WE FELT THAT WAS THE MOST PRUDE WANT WAY TO DO. THE FUND RELATED TO THIS WAS IN THE EC ARTICULATED FROM THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT BASED UPON SEVERAL DESIGNATIONS WITHIN THAT BUDGET RELATED TO CLEANING UP CLEAN STREET AND THE WAYS IN WHICH WE ENSURE WE DO SO. THE CONNECTION BETWEEN BOTH MAKE OUR STREETS BEAUTIFUL, AND ALSO ENSURINGING THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DAY WORK AND DOING SO. AGAIN, IT'S IN THAT EC THAT'S IN YOUR LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, ANYTHING TO ADD? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YEAH, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. SO THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCILOR GROUT AND I SPONSORED AND PASSED, IS THAT NEVER GOING TO COME TO FRUITION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE EC WE SENT DOWN IS IN RESPONSE TO THAT RESOLUTION DIRECTLY. AND A REQUEST FOR US TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM THAT WE DESIGNED IN RESPONSE TO THAT RESOLUTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: ON THIS TOPIC, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW THIS PROGRAM IS CLEANING UP AROUND CENTRAL, IS THAT THE SAME -- WE USED CALL THEM BLOCK BY BLOCK OR DUKE CITY AMBASSADORS? >> THEY ARE THE DUKE CITY AMBASSADORS. >>COUN. ROGERS: WONDERFUL. I KNOW BACK DURING BUDGET TIME I ASKED HOW TO GET THEM IN MY DISTRICT. WILL THIS ALLOW THEM TO COME DOWN THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF CENTRAL? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC ON AREAS BASED ON CURBS, PARKING DISTANCE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I DID ASK HOW TO BRING THIS SERVICE TO MY DISTRICT. CAN WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND GET DUKE CITY AMBASSADORS ON THE ENTIRE STRETCH OF CENTRAL. BECAUSE ON BOTH SIDES OF CENTRAL NEED BLOCK BY BLOCK LOVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW THAT WE PUT IN A $400,000 SPECIFICALLY FOR CENTRAL FOR THIS PROGRAM. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT MONEY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT'S BEING USED ON CENTRAL FOR THIS PROGRAM. >>COUN. GROUT: CAN YOU GET US A MAP AND A SCHEDULE OF WHEN THEY'RE THERE? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ON EAST CENTRAL. I DRIVE IT UP EVERY DAY. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, YOU'RE ON THE LIST NEXT FOR ADMIN Q&A. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE A BIRCH OF -- BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. I DID SUBMIT THESE AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK WE SENT THEM ON THURSDAY. THE FIRST ONE, MADAM PRESIDENT, IS ABOUT THE EAST GATEWAY ARCH. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH COUNCIL STAFF. WE'VE HAD A CONTRACTOR HELPLING US GO THROUGH THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE FUND SOURCE FOR THIS PROJECT IS? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR DND DIRECTOR. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND SUPPORT OF THE EAST GATEWAY ARCH PROJECT. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THE DESTINATION FORWARD GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $325,000. AS NECESSARY, DEPENDING ON THE FINAL COST OF THE PROJECT, $300,000 IN THE GO BOND. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR COMPLETING IT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT FIVE MONTHS FOR DESIGN. WE DO NOT HAVE A FABRICATION TIMELINE YET. UNTIL WE HAVE THE NO -- NEON SIGNS. THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WILL BE DETERMINED ONCE DESIGN IS COMPLETE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ASSIGNED PAUL OLSON, THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING DIVISION MANAGER TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND SERVE AS THE PROJECT MANAGER. >>COUN. GROUT: HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE DOES MR. OLSON HAVE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT QUESTION IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING. I AM HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP IN WRITING WITH ALL OF HIS EXPERIENCE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. LET'S SEE. COUNCIL STAFF GOT THAT $380,000 -- ACTUALLY $328,000 GRANT FROM THE NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM THAT WILL FULLY FUND CONSTRUCTION. COUNCIL STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR GRANT REPORTING. WILL COUNCIL STAFF STILL BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, AGAIN WE DID NOT GET THAT QUESTION IN ADVANCE. I CAN ASSURE YOU, BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR SANCHEZ THAT WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH REGULAR UPDATES ON THIS PROJECT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDEN -- LET'S SEE HERE. COUNCIL STAFF IS STABLE FOR THE GRANT. SO, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PART OF THAT PROJECT. I AM ASKING THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON COUNCIL STAFF BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL'S CONTRACT WITH WILSON AND COMPANY HAS BEEN CANCELED BY DND. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT ENSURED COUNCIL STAFF INVOLVEMENT WITH ALL MEETINGS OF THE CONTRACTOR. HAS THAT LANGUAGE BEEN CARRIED INTO THE THE NEW DND CONTRACT FOR THIS WORK? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, AGAIN WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT QUESTION IN ADVANCE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANSWERS IN WRITING. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HAVE DND STAFF MET ABOUT THIS PROJECT? >> AGAIN WE DID NOT GET THAT QUESTION IN ADVANCE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW WITH COMPLETE ANSWER IN WRITEING. >>COUN. GROUT: HAS THE SIGN BEEN CHANGED IN ANY WAY SINCE DND TOOK OVER THE PROJECT? >> WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE QUESTION IN ADVANCE. >> DR. SENGEL, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SPOT, IT HAS TO BE IN WRITING IN ADVAN EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE SIMPLE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW IF DIRECTOR TURNER KNOWS THE SPECIFIC ANSWERS. I ASKED THEM NOT TO GIVE ANSWERS THAT ARE INCORRECT. OR GUESS AT THEM. I THINK IF -- I'M SORRY, IF DIRECTOR TURNER HAS SPECIFIC ANSWERS SHE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. BUT NOT KNOWING SOMEONE'S BACKGROUND OR SPECIFICALLY IF A CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH MIGHT BE AN ISSUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WILL SAY SHE KEEPSLOOKING AT YOU EVERY TIME SHE GIVES THAT ANSWER. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT GRANTS. WE'RE APPLYING FOR A U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION GRANT THROUGH THE STATE STREET FOR ALL FOR SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON EAST CENTRAL IN DISTRICT NINE. THE CONTRACT TO THE GRANT WRITER HASN'T BEEN SIGNED BY DND, COULD YOU PLEASE FOLLOW UP ON THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'RE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: NOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TAX ADVISORY BOARD REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WHO KEEPS TRACK OF REPORTS FOR EACH BOARD? IS THERE ONE PERSON WHO TRACKS AND REPORTS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, OUR FOLKS HAVE GIVEN ME RESPONSES TO THIS. LET ME MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE YOU THE ANSWERS FROM THERE. EACH OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THEM, EACH SPECIFIC BOARD. THERE ISN'T ONE PERSON BUT EACH BOARD HAS A REPRESENTATIVE. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING THE TASKS AND OUTCOMES AND MAKING SURE AGENDAS AND MINUTES ARE POSTED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS. THEY ALSO -- JUST RECENTLY, ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WENT THROUGH A TRAINING FROM OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD ALL OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES AS THE STAFF MEMBER TO ENSURE THEY'RE SUPPORTING THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION BOARD DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE MET. IS THERE A STAFF MEMBER FOR THIS BOARD? WHO SUPERVISES THAT PERSON? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT -- THE FACTS ARE A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED. WHEN THE PREVIOUS DIRECTOR, CAROL PIERCE AND THE EARLY CHILDHOOD COORDINATOR, DR. MOSLEY, STARTED THIS COMMITTEE BAB IN OCTOBER OF 2022, THERE -- I'M GOING TO READ A QUOTE SO I CAN GET THIS ACCURATE. THERE'S NO LONGER A HEAD START PROGRAM GOVERNANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE FUNDER, THE U.S. HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES EARLY HEAD START PROGRAM, THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE GOVERNING BODY FOR THE EARLY HEAD START GRANT. THE CITY COUNCIL REVIEWS AND APPROVES THE EARLY HEAD START QUARTERLY REPORTS. THEY DO STILL HAVE THE POLICY COUNCIL, AND THEY ARE COMPRISED OF PARENTS AND STAFFED BY AN EHS, WHICH IS EARLY HEAD START PROGRAM STAFF MEMBER. >>COUN. GROUT: WHERE CAN WE FIND BOARD REPORTS ? >> ALL OF THE BOARD AND INFORMATION COMMISSION IS FOUND ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION WEBSITE OF THE CITY. EACH OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MAINTAIN THEIR OWN INFORMATION ON THAT. THE WEBSITE IS WHERE YOU CAN FIND BOARD MEMBERSHIP, MEETINGS, AGENDAS, REPORTS AND COMMISSIONS FROM ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. NOW I WANT TO MOVE TO HUMAN RESOURCES. WHERE DID YOU GET THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAINING MODULE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAVE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING MODULE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE GOT THE ANTI-HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAINING MODULE THROUGH KNOWLEDGE CITY. IT'S AN ELECTRONIC LEARNING MODEL WE USE IN HUMAN RESOURCES. >>COUN. GROUT: HOW MUCH DID IT COST? >> THE ACCESS COST US APPROXIMATELY $52,000 A YEAR. TO IMPLEMENT THE PARTICULAR TRAINING, WE WILL LIKELY HAVE TO BUY ABOUT 1800 ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE LICENSES THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. THOSE COST ABOUT $10 A PIECE. WE HAVEN'T INCURRED THAT COST YET, WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE $18,000 SO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES CAN TAKE THE TEST. IT MAY BE LESS BECAUSE WE DO RECYCLE LICENSES AS EMPLOYEES LEAVE OR ON BOARD. IT'S A DYNAMIC NUMBER HOW MANY WE NEED ON A GIVEN DAY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. HOW MANY OTHER TRAINING MODULES DID YOU CONSIDER? >> I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER. WE LOOKED AT A FEW OTHER ONLINE POSSIBILITIES. THOSE ALL FACE COUNCILOR COSTS. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 5 AND $10 PER EMPLOYEE AS WELL AS WHATEVER THE COST OF THE PLATFORM WOULD BE. WE COMPARED PAST EXPERIENCES WITH HIRING A LOCAL CONTRACTOR OR VENDOR TO CREATE A TRAINING FROM SCRATCH. THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT IT COST CLOSER TO $90,000. THIS IS QUALITY TRAINING. WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT. I THINK WE HAD BETWEEN A THOUSAND AND 1500 EMPLOYEES TAKE THE TRAINING WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO MOVE TO THE GATEWAY RECEIVING CENTER. UNM PRESS SAID THEY WILL NOT RENEW THEIR CONTRACT BECAUSE THE CITY IS AN UNSTABLE CONTRACTOR. CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T HAVE THAT QUESTION WRITTEN. COULD YOU REPEAT IT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. >>COUN. GROUT: THIS CAME UP SINCE I SUBMITTED MY QUESTION ON THURSDAY. UNM SAID THEY WILL NOT RENEW THEIR CONTRACT TO OPERATE THE GATEWAY RECEIVING CENTER. BECAUSE OF AN UNSTABLE CONTRACTOR. IS HHH ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROVIDER? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE ASSESSING THE SITUATION WITH UNM. I HAVE ONGOING MEETINGS MYSELF WITH UNM. I THINK THE COMMUNICATION WAS FROM AN EMPLOYEE AND AT THE RECEIVING CENTER. TO BE HONEST, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR UNM. I AM NOT COMPLETELY -- I WOULDN'T WANT TO REST ON WHAT WAS STATED BY THAT INDIVIDUAL. I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH UNM AND ALLOW THEM TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION ABOUT THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WILL THERE BE AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT, OR WILL IT GO OUT TO RFP? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT WE ARE ASSESSING BASED UPON THAT COMMUNICATION AND ONGOING COMMUNICATION WE'RE ASSESSING THE NEED FOR A NEW PROVIDER OR NOT. WE WILL USE APPROPRIATE PROCUREMENT AND WE DO HAVE AN RFP WITH MULTIPLE SCOPES. IT WILL BE OUT SOON TO ENSURE WE'RE USING A COMPETITIVE RFP PROCESS. I CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL OR MORE CLEAR DETAIL. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I'M REALLY CONCERNED. IT JUST OPENED. AND IT'S THERE'S ALREADY SOME ISSUES. WE DON'T WANT THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THOSE -- THAT INFORMATION. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT UNANSWERED GOV AFFAIRS AT CABQ EMAILS. THREE WEEKS AGO, YOUR ADMINISTRATION STARTED A NEW POLICY. ALL OF OUR OFFICES HAVE TO GO TO ONE EMAIL. SO WHEN A CONSTITUENT SENDS AN EMAIL WITH A REQUEST OR QUESTION, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH GOV AFFAIRS INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE DEPARTMENTS SPECIFICALLY. I HAVE AN EMAIL HERE THAT WE SENT, OUR OFFICE, SO I'M BRINGING THIS TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION. BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY, WHEN SOMEBODY REACHES OUT TO OUR OFFICE, WE ACTUALLY GET BACK TO THEM IN A RELATIVELY QUICK TURNAROUND. WE GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED, AND BACK TO THE CONSTITUENT. THAT HAS COME TO A HALT BECAUSE OF THIS NEW POLICY. ON JANUARY 15th, SOMEBODY CALLED OUR OFFICE AND ASKED ABOUT SOME STRIPING ON A ROAD IN MY DISTRICT. SO, MY POLICY ANALYST FORWARDED THE REQUEST TO THE DEPARTMENT THAT SHE USED TO ALWAYS SPEAK TO AND GET AN ANSWER PRETTY QUICK. SHE WAS TOLD THAT SEND TO THE DEPARTMENT. AND THE DEPARTMENT SENDS AN EMAIL, I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT HERE. THIS IS JANUARY 15th WE SENT THE EMAIL, ON THE 16th WE GET A REPLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS I WILL FORWARD THIS TO ENSURE OUR TEAM GETS AN APPROPRIATE AND TIMELY RESTOPS TO THE INQUIRY. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO SEND ALL OF OUR EMAILS THROUGH THIS ONE, WAITING FOR RESPONSE AND AN ANSWER TO GET BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK. IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE ALL GETTING 50 TO 100 EMAILS A DAY. IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH THEM THREE WEEKS LATER. IN RESPONSE TO HAVING TO GET QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION, ON THURSDAY, WE SENT EMAILS, THE QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE GET AN EMAIL BACK THAT SAYS I'M SORRY I DIDN'T GET -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT EMAIL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, OUR OFFICE FORWARDED THE EMAIL AGAIN FROM JANUARY 15, TO SHOW THAT YOU DID GET AND THIS IS A RESPONSE YOU RECEIVED. ON FRIDAY, I THINK THAT WAS JANUARY 31st, WE GET AN EMAIL FROM GOV AFFAIRS THAT SAYS, HERE'S YOUR RESPONSE. THE FUNNY THING ABOUT THAT IS, IT SAYS JANUARY 17th. WE COULD HAVE AN ANSWER BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENT TWO DAYS LATER. INSTEAD, WE'RE THREE WEEKS OUT. THAT IS NOT EFFICIENT. IT'S NOT WORKING. AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL EXPERIENCING THAT. I KNOW THAT IF I'M GETTING 50 TO 100 EMAILS A DAY, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS, I ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY EMAILS GUV AFFAIRS IS GETTING. THIS IS NOT GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE CONSTITUENTS. IT'S NOT SMART. I UNDERSTAND -- I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MICROMANAGING IN THIS POLICY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S WORKING. SO, I FINALLY GOT AN ANSWER ON FRIDAY. SO, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CONSTITUENT TODAY. THAT WAS INTERESTING. ANOTHER ONE I WANT TO ASK, WE STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED -- I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANSWER FOR THIS. THIS IS FROM JANUARY 15th, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE REPAIR AT 13204 MOUNTAIN? >> THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE I HAVE HERE IS THAT THE OWNER OPTED TO USE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES ON CALL CONTRACTOR. THE ESTIMATED TIME TO COMPLETE THE REPAIR OF THE SIDE WALK BY THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES ONNA CALL IS MARCH OR APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THE CURB AND GUTTER IS GOING TO BE REPAIRED BY THE STREET MAINTENANCE. >>COUN. GROUT: WHEN DID YOU GET THAT INFORMATION? DID YOU SEND IT TO OUR OFFICE YET? >> ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT IS PART OF THE RESPONSES PROVIDED ON JANUARY 31st. >>COUN. GROUT: ALL RIGHT. I CAN CHECK INTO THAT. I NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT THAT. WHAT ABOUT JANUARY 17th? WHY ARE THE STREET LIGHTS OUT ON SOUTHERN BETWEEN ELIZABETH AND EUBANK? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, THE COMPANY THAT MAINTAINS OUR LIGHTS IS NOTIFIED ON THE 18th OF DECEMBER OF THE OUTAGE. THEY HAVE BEEN TASKED CREWS TO ADDRESS THE OUTAGE THAT HAS GENERATED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN THE AREA. THERE WILL BE WORK IN THIS LOCATION INTO THE SCHEDULE AS THEY FINISH THE EARLIER REPORTED AREAS. I THINK THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC REPLY THAT MAY HAVE COME TO THIS CONSTITUENT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN FROM DND DIRECTLY THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY CONFUSING. BUT WE TRY TO GIVE OUR CONSTITUENTS AS MUCH INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE A PATCH WORK OF LIGHT MAINTENANCE AND WE'LL CHECK THE SPECIFIC LIGHTS FOR WHO IS APPROPRIATE TO NOTIFY. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. DID YOU SEND THAT TO OUR OFFICE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, MY NOTES INDICATE THEY DID GO TO OUR OFFICE FROM MR. NASH. HE IS IN OUR OFFICE. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT HERE. THAT'S THE ONE I READ TODAY. THIS IS JUST NOT EFFICIENT. ALL OF THIS BACK AND FORTH AND WAITING FOR GOV AFFAIRS. IT'S NOT COOL. IT'S NOT GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. I AM SAD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING FOR ANSWERS. NOT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HELP THEM, BUT WE'RE WAITING FOR ADMIN TO REPLY. IT'S NOT US, WE'RE WAITING ON THE ADMINISTRATION. I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT. WE'RE WAITING ON REPLIES FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I APPRECIATE THE FRUSTRATION. I UNDERSTAND. YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE FRUSTRATION. WE'VE WORKED TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS AND EFFICIEEFFICIENCIES. ANY TIME THERE'S A CONSTITUENT INQUIRY, FROM COUNCIL SERVICES OR STAFF OR COUNCILORS, WE'RE EXPEDITE ANY CONSTITUENT INQUIRY SO IT DOESN'T GET MIXED WITH OTHER TYPES OF INQUIRIES. WE APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF TIMELINESS. I AM DISAPPOINTED THESE TWO HAD THE TWO-WEEK DELAY. I THINK WE'VE IMPROVED THE EFFICIENCY AND TIMELINESS OF THE RESPONSES. WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AND ENSURE WE'RE NOT THE BOTTLENECK FOR GETTING THOSE RESPONSES BACK TO YOU RELATED TO CONSTITUENT INQUIRIES. >>COUN. GROUT: I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WE GOT RESPONSES TO ALL THREE OF THOSE ON FRIDAY AFTER WE SENT IN THE QUESTIONS. . >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL, WHAT ARE OTHER TYPES OF QUESTIONS? YOU SAID CONSTITUENT QUESTIONS AND OTHER TYPES OF QUESTIONS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL SERVICES STAFF. INQUIRIES THAT ARE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE INTENTION FROM COUNCIL SERVICES. WE DO RECEIVE GENERAL INFORMATION INQUIRIES THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO A CONSTITUENT INQUIRY. AND THINGS ALONG THE LINES OF RESEARCH QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS REPORT REQUESTS, AND REPORTS TO BE GENERATED. TOPICS VARY EVERYTHING FROM TYPES OF RECORD INFORMATION, TYPES OF CONTRACTS OF INFORMATION, IT CAN -- I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TYPES OF INQUIRIES WE DO. GENERALLY, THERE'S ABOUT, I WOULD ESTIMATE, ABOUT 50 CONSTITUENT RELATED INQUIRIES THAT HAVE COME IN SINCE WE STARTED. AND MORE THAN 200 THAT WE COULD CATEGORY OUTSIDE OF THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES. I KNOW THAT WHEN THE PORTION OF STAFF SENDS SOMETHING OVER, THAT IS BECAUSE OF A CONSTITUENT REQUEST IN SOME SORT. WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CONSTITCH WPTS, JUST LIKE THE MAYOR IS. TO ME, IT'S NOT DIFFERENTIATED IF THERE'S RESEARCH OR MORE DATA THAT'S NEEDED. IT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT AVENUE JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT ONE OF US, OR SOMEBODY THAT IS OTHER THAN OUR STAFF, WE ARE REPRESENTING THE CONSTITUENTS TOO. THOSE QUESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TOO. EVEN FROM OUR STAFF. SO, IT IS REALLY HARD BECAUSE MAYBE WE DO HAVE A CONSTITUENT THAT ASKS US, AND WE ASK OUR STAFF, THEY ASK YOU AND EVERYPLACE GETS SENT TO GOV AFFAIRS. I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILOR GROUT ON THIS. I WANT TO SAY THAT NO ONE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK IN THIS ROOM, OR BEYOND, ENJOYS THAT COUNCILOR GROUT ASKS SOME OF OR QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED IN DAY TO DAY BUSINESS ON THE DAIS WHEN WE HAVE ACTUAL POLICY MAKING TO BE DONE. IF WE HAVE TO START BRINGING THEM HERE, BY ALL MEANS DO SO. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY. BUT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT DON'T GET ANSWERS EITHER. OR I WONDER IF THE CONSTITUENT IS INCLUDED IS THE ADMIN DIRECTLY SPEAKING TO THE CONSTITUENT AND WE DON'T KNOW EITHER. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP US IN THAT LOOP. I DO BELIEVE WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CONSTITUENTS, EVEN IF IT IS THROUGH THE REPORTS WE REQUESTED THAT IS NOT A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL. COUNCILORS, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC THAT OTHERS WANT TO ASK. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TO KEEP SOME OF THE DECORUM. I WILL COME BACK TO YOU. BUT I WANT TO HAVE THE OTHERS THAT SIGNED UP TO ASK QUESTIONS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. COUNCILOR LEWIS THEN COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS DOES HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT. MS. SENGEL, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, ARE THEY EXPERTS ON LET'S SAY AN UNSLIGHTLY ELECTRIC BOX IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? WE COULD CONSIDER GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AS EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING UTILITY BOX THAT'S UNSIGHTLY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE NEVER IMPLIED THAT GOVERNMENT AFFAIRICIZE IS ANSWERING EVERY QUESTION. A LOT OF TIMES MY COMMUNICATION AND COUNCILORS AND DIRECTORS IS FRUSTRATION BY COUNCILORS ABOUT QUESTIONS NOT BEING ANSWERED SOMEWHERE ON THE ORGANIZATION. MOST OF THE TIME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE QUESTION SO I'M CHASING IT DOWN. THIS GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EPISURE WE KNOW ALL THE QUESTIONS COMING THROUGH AND WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: YEAH, I THINK THE POINT IS IT'S CREATING MORE OF A BOTTLENECK IN THAT REGARD. OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT EXPERTS ON ALL THESE ISSUES, AND WE'RE NOT EITHER. BUT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE. IT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US, NEIGHBORHOOD CALLS US AND WE REACH OUT TO DND FOR A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT. MY ANALYSTS SEND AN EMAIL AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INQUIRY I'LL FORWARD IT TO THE GOVERNMENT OF OPERATIONS EMAIL ADDRESS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS HELPFUL. IT'S THE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD KNOW VERY QUICKLY THAT AND ULTIMATELY FOUND OUT IT'S A PNM BOX OR A COMMUNICATIONS BOX, AND WE QUICKLY WERE ABLE TO TELL THE -- AFTER WE FOUND OUT, THAT BOX WAS NOT RELATED TO THE DMD. WHAT HAPPENED IS IT WENT TO GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS CONFIRMED BACK AND PROBABLY GOT THE ANSWER BACK FROM DMD. AND THIS ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, ACTUALLY DIDN'T TAKE THAT LONG. ALTHOUGH IT WAS A WEEK AGO. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT SENDING THAT EMAIL TO GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND WAITING ON A RESPONSE FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO US TO GET BACK TO THE CONSTITUENT IS REALLY SILLY. AND THE ONLY THING YOU WOULD CONCLUDE IS WHY WOULDN'T YOU TRUST DMD? WHY WOULDN'T YOU TRUST THEM TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWER THAT IS APPROPRIATE? ARE YOU EXPERTS ON DUCKS? THERE'S SOME BEAUTIFUL DUCKS THAT LIVE IN THE PARK, WOULD GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS BE EXPERTS ON THOSE DUCKS AND GIVE US ANSWERS? I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- WE WORKED OUT THE ISSUE AND TOOK ABOUT A WEEK. WE HAD GREAT INFORMATION FROM DMD. AND WE WORKED WITH THE CONSTITUENTS WITH PARKS AND REC. IN ALL THIS, THIS HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. AGAIN, IT WOULD LEAD YOU TO CONCLUDE THAT THERE'S THIS MAJOR UNTRUST WITH YOUR DEPARTMENTS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US WHO RUN THESE THINGS. I IMAGINE IT WOULD BE HARD FOR YOUR DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. IT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS. NOT GOOD COMMUNICATION. NOT GOOD CONSTITUENT HELP. IT'S REALLY PRETTY SILLY. THERE'S ANOTHER REQUEST FOR SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. I IMAGINE WITH A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH DMD WE CAN GET GOOD INFORMATION BACK. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION BACK YET. I IMAGINE BECAUSE IT'S HELD UP IN THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE CHECK THE POLITICAL IMPLICATION OF IT SINCE THE MAYOR IS RUNNING FOR ELECTION MAYBE HE DOESN'T TRUST THE DIRECTORS TO TALK WITH OTHER CONSTITUENTS. IT'S REALLY PRETTY SILLY TO ME. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU'D BE EXPERT ON THOSE THINGS OR ALL THE HUNDREDS OF EMAILS AND QUESTIONS WE GET ALL THE TIME. I THINK WE CAN BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IN ALL THIS. IF ANYTHING, JUST A WASTE, ABSOLUTE WASTE OF AN EMAIL. AND IT'S NOT YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AT THE DMD'S FAULT, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE TOLD. IT'S PRETTY SILLY. MADAM PRESIDENT -- WANT TO RESTOPPED TO THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS IS NOTHING ABOUT TRUST RELATED TO ANYONE, ACTUALLY. TRUST IS NOT WHAT THE IMPETUS IS. MANY, MANY TIMES MY CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCILORS IS FRUSTRATION ABOUT A LOST INQUIRY, NOT KNOWING ABOUT WHY THEY CAN'T GET AN ANSWER, SOMEONE DOESN'T REMEMBER. WE HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THEY GET LOTS OF INQUIRIES. THIS IS INENSURING WE CAN FOLLOW THROUGH AND ABLE TO TRACK AND ENSURE THOSE INQUIRIES ARE BEING RESPONDED TO WHEN THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHY IT HASN'T BEEN RESPONDED TO WE CAN EXPLAIN WHY IT'S TAKING MORE TIME AND GIVE INFORMATION IN THAT WAY. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE, IN THIS PROCESS, AS WE GOTTEN STARTED, HAVE TAKEN MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO. THAT IS THE CASE ALL THE TIME WITHIN THE CITY, UNFORTUNATELY. I BELIEVE IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CASES SINCE WE GET STARTED, IT TAKES US JUST A FEW DAYS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO ANY INQUIRY RELATED -- WE KNOW THERE'S A CONSTITUENT ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEIR ISSUE, THEIR PROPERTY, THEY NEEDS. WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THAT TIMELINESS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING TO TAKE LONGER, AND WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT REPORTS OR GENERATING INFORMATION, OUR GOAL IS TO ALSO CONTINUE TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT WILL TAKE LONGER. WE HAVE CONTINUED TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATION BACK SO YOU KNOW WHY THINGS MAY TAKE LONGER THAN HAVE BEEN THE CASE. THE INTENT ON THIS IS NOT TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR ENSURE WE KNOW WHAT IS COMING IN AND IT IS BEING RESPONDED TO. THAT IS THE ISSUE. OFTENTIMES, COUNCILOR INQUIRIES WITH ME AND OTHER DIRECTORS ARE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERED TO. AND IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE ORGANIZATION AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN ASKED SO WE DON'T KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN RESPONDED TO. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, THE ONLY REASON IT'S TAKEN ANY LONGER, THE ONLY REASON, IS BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO TO GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. YOUR DIRECTORS HAVE TO SEND AN EMAIL TO GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON IT HAS TAKEN ANY LONGER. I GAVE EXAMPLES OF QUESTIONS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED EASILY AND DISCUSSED EASILY WITH YOUR EXPERTS WHICH ARE IN YOUR DEPARTMENTS AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THAT THE ONLY REASON. I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT MAYBE IS NOT YOU DON'T TRUST ANYBODY, BUT I ASK WOULD YOU RECONSIDER THAT OR THINK AGAIN IF THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD RETHINK AS AN ADMINISTRATION FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY OR HELPING OUR CONSTITUENTS BETTER? WOULD YOU CONSIDER RETHINKING THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AS WE GO FORWARD. I'M NOT GOING TO BACK AWAY FROM WHAT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE FOR MORE THAN 15 MONTHS OF COUNCILORS BEING FRUSTRATED WITHOUT ISSUES THEY DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO. THE FACT IS WE NOW KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS ARE COMING IN. IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A RESPONSE, I CAN KNOW IMMEDIATELY WHY IT HASN'T BEEN RESPONDED TO OR IF IT HASN'T. A GREAT EXAMPLE WITH COUNCILOR GROUT'S QUESTION HAVING NOT BEEN ANSWERED, WE CAN IMMEDIATELY FIND THAT ONCE IT'S POINTED OUT AND GET A RESPONSE BACK TO COUNCILOR GROUT AND THE CONSTITUENT. THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WILL FALL THROUGH. BUT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE NOW FALLING THROUGH ARE FAR LESS AND I CAN TRACK THEM AND ENSURE WE'RE GETTING RESPONSES TO YOU AND TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ATTACHED TO THOSE AS WELL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU HAVE GREAT PEOPLE IN YOUR DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM. AND GET THOSE TO US. AND ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS KEEP THINGS -- YOU KNOW, I FEEL BAD THAT YOU'RE JUST KEEPING THEM FROM DOING THEIR JOB. KEEPING THEM FROM EXERCISING THEIR EXPERTISE AND DOING WHAT THEY WERE HIRED TO DO. AGAIN, IT'S PRETTY SILLY. I ASK YOU TO RETHINK THAT. YOU MIGHT BE THINKING YOU'RE SOLVING A PROBLEM, BUT I THINK YOU'RE CREATING A WHOLE LOT MORE ISSUES. FROM MY PART, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THINGS UP FURTHER, THAT'S ON YOU GUYS. IT'S KIND OF SAD. FROM YOUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS GROUP, I WAS READING, I KNOW YOU SHARED THIS WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT I WON'T SAY WHAT IT'S IN RESPONSE. BUT YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT CAME FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS, THE MAYOR BELIEVES NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF CITY GOVERNMENT. AND LONG ADVOCATED FOR THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT COORDINATION TO MOVE OUT OF CITY COUNCIL AND MADE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION. I NEVER KNEW THAT THE MAYOR LONG ADVOCATED FOR MOVING THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION OUT OF THE COUNCIL AND DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION. WE CHANGED THAT -- THEY WORKED OUT OF OUR OFFICE. THEY'RE SUPERVISED BY OUR DIRECTOR. ANYWAY, THAT'S NEW TO ME. IS THAT THE POLICY OF THE MAYOR, POLICY OF THE ADMINISTRATION THAT IT'S YOUR DESIRE TO MOVE THE ONC TO BE DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ADMINISTRATION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK THE LETTER FROM DOUG SMALL SPEAKS TO WHAT THE MAYOR'S INTENT AND WISHES ARE. THIS IS RELATED TO THE FACT THAT WE HEAR FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ASKING US TO BE RESPONSIVE IN THE WAY THAT THE OMC IS. WE'RE OPEN TO HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE ADMINISTRATION IF THAT IS WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT TO NEIGHBORHOODS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, AGAIN, THIS SAYS HE'S LONG ADVOCATED FOR IT. I NEVER HEARD THAT BEFORE. IT ALSO SAYS THE MAYOR EXPRESSED HIS DESIRE TO REPAIR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECOGNITION ORDINANCE. PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED SECTOR PLANS. AGAIN, HE'S REPEATEDLY EXPRESSED DESIRE TO REPAIR THE IDO. YOU UNDERSTAND THOSE CHANGES COME THROUGH THE COUNCIL. THAT'S OUR DOCUMENT THAT WE CHANGE. IT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE EXCLUSION OF PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED SECTOR PLANS. MOST OF THE SECTOR PLANS ARE IN MY DISTRICT. I'VE NEVER HEARD THE MAYOR EXPRESS HIS DESIRE TO REPAIR THE NARO. IS THAT SOMETHING NEW? IS THAT SOMETHING THE MAYOR WANTS TO ASK US TO MAKE SOME EXCLUSIONS OF PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED SECTOR PLANS IN THE IDO? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK WE'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING RELATED TO THE NARO THAT CREATES COMMUNITY-EXPRESSED IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THE MAYOR'S POSITION ON THIS IS ONE -- I HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT BEEN HERE FOR THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION, BUT I THINK THERE HAS BEEN EXPRESSED INTEREST ACROSS TIME AROUND WAYS TO IMPROVE THE NARO AND OTHER RELATED TOPICS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST NEVER HEARD ABOUT IT BEFORE. THIS IS ALL NEWS TO ME. IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE MAYOR WOULD WANT TO SIT DOWN AND PROPOSE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE. MAYBE, FOR ONCE, TO STICK HIS NECK OUT AND SAY I'M GOING TO MAKE A DECISION. A DECISION THAT MIGHT BE GOOD AND BE WILLING TO TAKE ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME MY WAY. I THINK HE WRITES LETTERS LIKE THIS WHEN IT SUITS HIM. BUT THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO TAKE A STAND ON THAT. I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY HAVE A POLICY THAT WOULD SAY THIS IS SPECIFICALLY HOW WOULD WE LIKE TO SEE IT CHANGED. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT SHARING THINGS LIKE THIS, IT UNDERMINES AND UNDERCUTS COUNCIL'S DECISIONS WITHOUT HAVING ANY REAL SOLUTION. IT'S PRETTY CONFUSING. IN THE SAME WAY THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO GO THROUGH OUR GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER MET DOUG SMALL, BUT APPARENTLY HE'S SPEAKING FOR YOU ALL, AS MANY OTHERS, WHEN THE EXPERTS IN THE DEPARTMENTS ARE APPARENTLY NOT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS EMAIL. I'M GOING TO NOT ASK THOSE. BECAUSE MADAM PRESIDENT ASKED ME NOT TO. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR DR. SENGEL ON THE NEW METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ANNUAL REPORT. I WANTED TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR RESUBMITTING SOME OF THE ONES THAT DID NOT HAVE INFORMATION, RESUBMITTING, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE THE LIST OF ASSETS. I WAS FASCINATED TO SEE THAT WE ONLY OWNED FIVE PIECES OF PROPERTY. AND THEY'RE ON CENTRAL OR VERY CLOSE TO CENTRAL, WHICH IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT LAID OUT. I APPRECIATED THE OPERATING BUDGET AND THE MRs BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. I WANT TO HAVE QUICK CONVERSATION AROUND THE FINAL PARAGRAPH. I'M GOING TO READ IT FOR FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE. IT SAYS, NO CITY COUNCILORS IN FY24 SUPPORTED MRA DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THEIR DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR MRA OPERATING BUDGET. DEVELOPMENT WORK,S GRANT PROGRAMS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WERE PAID FOR WITH RESERVES FOR PRIOR YEARS, AND GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. FIRST OF ALL, I DO NOT APPRECIATE THIS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE NOTE AT THE END OF THIS REPORT. SO, NO CITY COUNCILORS SUPPORTED MRA DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN THEIR DISTRICTS, YET IN FY24 I PAID FOR A CONTRACT IN MY DISTRICT. IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A CONTRACT, BUT IT'S A CONTRACT, TO WORK ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE MENAUL AREA. I'M SURE OTHER COUNCILORS DID SIMILAR PROJECTS. THAT'S NOT MY POINT. MY POINT IS THAT IT SAYS WE DID NOT SUPPORT MRA DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN OUR DISTRICT OUTSIDE OF FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR MRAs OPERATING. DR. SENGEL, WHO APPROPRIATES FUNDS FOR THE CITY'S OPERATING BUDGET? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE FINAL BUDGET APPROVAL COMES THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: OKAY. MADAM PRESIDENT, DR. SENGEL, WHO APPROPRIATES OR APPROVES THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND LINE ITEMS THAT ARE SENT TO THE VOTERS OF OUR CITY FOR FINAL APPROVAL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AS WE ALL KNOW IT IS ALSO CITY COUNCIL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DR. SENGEL, WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT FINAL NOTE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I CAN SURMISE THAT THE NOT IS TO INDICATE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDED ADDED FOR A SPECIFIC MRA PROJECT WITHIN THE BUDGET OR APPROPRIATED OR ALLOCATED DIRECTLY FROM A COUNCILOR'S DIRECTED TOWARD THE OPERATING BUDGET. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, DR. SENGEL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND MONEY OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE? -- I'M UNAWARE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. AND I RECALL MANY CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE WERE SETTING THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET WHEN WE DISCUSSED MRs. AND WE, SEVERAL COUNCILORS, ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE MR LINE ITEM. I TRIED TO ADD IN MORE, BUT I THINK YOU RECALL THAT CONVERSATION DID NOT GO WELL WITH YOUR DIRECTOR. I ASK, WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE FINAL NOTE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT BEYOND TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING VERY SARCASTIC? CLEARLY, IT WAS NOT WELL RECEIVED, AT LEAST BY THIS COUNCIL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I CAN SPEAK WITH MRA TO ASK IF WHAT THE SPECIFIC INTENT WAS RELATED TO PROJECTS OR SPECIFIC AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, THEY THOUGHT WERE NOT ADDRESSED. I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS RELATED TO THE BUDGET BEING APPROPRIATED THROUGH COUNCIL AND THE DISCUSSIONS THAT OCCURRED RELATED TO THE MRA BUDGET. AND THE CHALLENGES WE FACED WITH A VERY LIMITED BUDGET FOR FY25 IN TERMS OF OUR FORECAST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. REMINDER, THAT LIMITED BUDGET CAME FROM THIS BODY, AND THAT LIMITED BUDGET COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH SMALLER. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I NOTICED THAT COMMENT AS WELL. I'M EQUALLY DISTURBED BY IT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS FOR MR. WIGANS. I JUST WANTED AN UPDATE ON THE MURF AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH THAT CONTRACT. AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I'M WONDERING WITH WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH THE NOTIONS. I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY PROPERTY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING IN DISTRICT THREE FOR PROPERTY, WHICH IS CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES AND THEM PUTTING THINGS LIKE THIS. THAT'S MY CONCERN FOR THE PROPERTY NOT BEING IDENTIFIED. WHERE ARE WE, AND WHERE ARE WE WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR. IF WE'RE NOT ON THE TIMELINE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON, THEN THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR IS IN LIMBO. IF YOU CAN GIVE ME AN UPDATE, AND IF NOT TODAY -- I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. I DIDN'T GIVE THIS QUESTION IN ADVANCE. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A FULL REPORT NEXT TIME. IF YOU CAN UPDATE US TODAY. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. AND I CAN MEET WITH YOU AFTER I DISCUSS WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE. THEY'RE THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS IN THE NEGOTIATION. I OVERSEE THAT DEPARTMENT BUT I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF WHERE THEY ARE. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THEY'RE MEETING. WE CAN MEET WITH GO OVER THAT INFORMATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LOVE TO GET THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. PROBABLY ALL OF US. SEND IT TO ALL OF US. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR, I'M GOING TO ASK MY QUESTIONS AND I'LL BRIEFLY CIRCLE BACK. VERY BRIEFLY, TO A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON ALREADY-ASKED TOPICS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR SENIOR AFFAIRS. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, FOR BEING HERE. DIRECTOR SANCHEZ, OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS WE RECEIVED NUMEROUS CALLS THAT THE ROCK WELCOME AT THE DOMINGO BACA GENERATIONAL CENTER HAS BEEN CLOSED AND NOT OPEN FOR YOUTH. I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN CLARIFY WHY. AND IF YOU CAN ALSO LET ME KNOW WHAT STEPS WERE TAKEN TO INFORM CONSTITUENTS AND WAS ANY PUBLIC NOTICE GIVEN IN ADVANCE? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. CERTAINLY, ALLOWED ME TO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER MORE DEEPLY. THE ROCK WALL IS OPEN. HOWEVER IT WAS TEMPORARILY CLOSED TOWARD THE END OF SEPTEMBER. IT WAS FOR NEEDED REPAIRS. THEY EVALUATED IT WAS PART OF THE ANNUAL INSPECTION. WE DID INFORM CONSTITUENTS. WE ALWAYS DO OUR PROPER NOTICE THROUGH THE MONTHLY PRINTED NEWSLETTER WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE TO INFORM CON CONSTITUENTS. THE REPAIRS TOOK LONGER. WE WORKED TO ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC AND DOING THE REPAIRS IN PHASES TO ALLOW FOR THE ROCK WALL TO BE USED BY INDIVIDUALS. SAFETY IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR US. HAPPY TO ALWAYS ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WHEN DID YOU SAY THE REPAIRS WERE COMPLETED? >> TOWARD THE END OF DECEMBER. SO IT IS OPEN IN JANUARY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE GOT CALLS LAST WEEK THAT IT WAS CLOSED. >> THE HOURS THAT WE'RE OPEN IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 10:30 TO 6 P.M. WE LOST A FEW GOOD REPAIR PEOPLE TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE WORKING TO RESTAFF. IF WE DO HAVE ANY CHANGES IN ANYTHING, WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT TO THE PUBLIC. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I GUESS YOU BROUGHT UP ANOTHER QUESTION. WITH THE STAFFING, HAVE THOSE POSITIONS BEEN REPOSTED TO GET THEM FILLED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CONSIDER THE RECLASSIFICATION OF THEM BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OFFERING THE RIGHT HOURS ADVERTISED AND GET PEOPLE FOR THE ROCK WALL. >>COUN. BASSAN: GREAT. I WAS AN AT A DISTRICT FOUR COALITION MEETING AND WE WERE INFORMED THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF VACANCIES AT THE NORTH DOMINGO BACA CENTER, AND I ASKED ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATEDS TO COME. I TALKED TO THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ABOUT CHECKING INTO THAT AND SEEING IF WE HAD THEM POSTED AND WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. I FOUND OUT THOSE HAVE BEEN DELETED AND THERE'S NO SEARCH FOR REPLACEMENT OF STAFF AT THE MULTI-GEN CENTER SEPARATE FROM THE ROCK WALL. DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? >> I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT TOGETHER THE ANALYSIS. ALL OF THE SENIORS AND MULTI-GEN CENTERS RECEIVE MANY INDIVIDUALS. NORTH DOMINGO IS OPEN 70 HOURS EACH WEEK. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT POSITIONS TO RECRUIT THE RIGHT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE WITH COMPASSION AND CARE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ROCK WALL. WE NEED TO HAVE THEM UNDERGO TRAINING. I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO RELAY THAT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR HUMAN RESOURCES. MR. STOKES IS STILL HERE. AS YOU COME UP, CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE US WITH AN UPDATE ON WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND IS BEING DONE REGARDING R-20-84 WHICH IS DIRECTING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE'S EQUITY AND INCLUSION HUMEP -- HUMAN RESOURCES TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATING SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AMONG PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT. WORK HAS BEEN DONE. WE HAVE CONNECTED WITH A NUMBER OF LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDERS. SOME EXAMPLES ARE MANDY'S FARM, LSG, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE SUPPORTIVE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. IN FURTHERING THOSE CONNECTIONS, HUMAN RESOURCES CREATED AND FILLED TWO RECRUITING POSITIONS THIS YEAR. THOSE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN DEVOTE ALL THEIR TIME AND ATTENTION FOR WORKING WITH JOB SEEKS, FACILITATORS, SUCH AS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO TRY TO MATCH CANDIDATES WITH OPEN SPOTS. WE'RE IN CONNECTION WITH INITIATIVES TO BRING ON INTERNSHIP POSITIONS. WE'RE WORKING WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE TEMPORARY JOBS. THOSE ARE USUALLY TERM LIMITED. THE INCEPTION COMES FROM STUDENT WORKERS. BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY LIMITED TO STUDENTS. THE IDEA IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDERS AND HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE INTO AT LEAST A TEMPORARY POSITION TO HELP THEM DEVELOP MORE INTEREST AND IN THOSE THAT WANT TO PURSUE A LONGER CAREER WITH THE CITY AND DEVELOP CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY FOR THEM. WE ARE USING OUR RECRUITING STAFF TO WORK WITH DEPARTMENTS TO TALK ABOUT THEIR OWN RECRUITING EFFORTS AND HOW THEY CAN TAYLOR THEIR POSITIONS AND ADVERTISEMENTS AND THOSE THINGS AND MAKING THEM INCLUSIVE TO THOSE WITH OTHER ABILITIES OR OTHERWISE ABLED. FINALLY, WE'RE WORKING ON UPDATING OUR ON BOARDING COMPUTER SYSTEM TO ALLOW FOR CONFIDENTIAL DEMOGRAPHIC QUESTIONS. FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO SELF-IDENTIFY HAS HAVING DISABILITIES OR RECEIVING SERVICES FROM THE SUPPORTIVE HIRING ENVIRONMENTS. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE GREAT WAY TO TRACK THOSE. WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS FOR PEOPLE THAT JOINED THE CITY THAT QUALIFY. HOWEVER, CAN SAY THAT WE TO OFFER ABOUT 230 ACCOMMODATIONS TO EMPLOYEES UNDER THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT FOR VARIOUS KINDS OF OTHER ABILITIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I PROMISE I WILL CIRCLE BACK TO SOME OF THE COUNCILORS WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW UP. MR. STOKES, IS THE CITY UNDER A HIRING FREEZE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHEN WAS THE LAST AND MOST RECENT HIRING FREEZE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THE LAST THAT I OR ANY OF MY STAFF KNOWS OF IS FIVE YEARS AGO. >>COUN. BASSAN: JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, DR. SENGEL, I DEFINITELY AM NOT SHARING ANY NAMES. BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON YOUR STAFF THAT THINK YOU'RE UNDER A HIRING FREEZE. AND THEY'RE INDICATING THAT TO ME. AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS. AND THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY THERE'S NOT A HIRING FREEZE. THAT SEEMS VERY CONFUSING AND MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND AN EMAIL TO GOV AFFAIRS. I'M SORRY, PERHAPS THAT'S A QUESTION WE NEED TO SEND. HOW CAN WE BE GETTING SUCH MIXED MESSAGES ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT OUR CITY IS HIRING EMPLOYEES OR NOT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AND AS WE'RE ABOUT TO EMBARK ON THE BUDGET. MR. STOKES, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE. THERE'S SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE AN UPDATE, MOVING ON JUST FOR A MINUTE, PLEASE PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE DISBURSEMENT OF NON-RECURRING COUNCIL SPONSORSHIPS IN THE FY25 BUDGET. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS QUESTION IN A COUPLE VARIATIONS FROM A FEW COUNCILORS. AND RESPONDED THROUGH AFFAIRS. I WANTED -- I DON'T MEAN THAT SNARKY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT VARIATIONS ON THE QUESTIONS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON EACH COUNCILORS INQUIRY. WE HAVE ALL OF THEM WORKING AT DIFFERENT PHASES, MANY OF THEM ARE EXECUTED. MANY OF THEM BEGUN TO BE SENT BY OUR PARTNERS OR IN SOME CASES ARE FAR INTO SPENDING. SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS ARE, ONE OF THEM WE DON'T AWARD UNTIL JANUARY BECAUSE THAT'S THE TIME THE ENTITY HAS SERVICES AND THEY WORK TO NEGOTIATE IT IN TIME FOR JANUARY. THERE'S A VARIATION ACROSS ALL OF THEM. WE ARE HAPPY TO, IF WE RECEIVE A LIST FROM A COUNCILOR, RESPOND TO THAT LIST WHEN WE MADE THE REQUEST TO HAVE CLARITY AROUND WHICH CONTRACTS ARE SPONSORED BY EACH OF THE COUNCILORS, WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM COUNCIL SERVICES THEY WOULD NOT PROVIDE THAT DIRECT INFORMATION ABOUT EACH ONE OF THEM. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER COUNCILORS THAT PROVIDED US WITH A LIST. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THERE'S MOVING PARTS. I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I WORDED MY QUESTION VERY WELL. CAN YOU PLEASE GET IT TO US, SO WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO THE STAFF, A COMPREHENSIVE WHERE THE SPONSORSHIPS ARE AT. I REALIZE THAT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. MY CONCERN, AS YOU KNOW, AND YOU HELPED US WORK THROUGH IT ON A COUPLE THAT I WAS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT FOR MY PRIORITIES, BUT THERE'S OTHER COUNCILORS THAT SAID THAT. I WAS TALKING WITH SOME STAFF AND I THOUGHT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TO GET THAT SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. IF WE CAN GET THAT SENT OVER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO IF WE CAN RECEIVE THE LIST FROM COUNCIL SERVICES STAFF AS TO WHICH ONES ARE COUNCIL SPONSORED. WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE SOMETHING OFF. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE, INCLUSIVELY RESPONDIVE BY ASKING COUNCIL SERVICES FOR THAT SO WE'RE REALLY CLEAR. THERE ARE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT ARE NON-RECURRING CONTRACTS NOT RELATED TO COUNCIL SPONSORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PADILLA CAN YOU MAKE SURE WE GET A COMPREHENSIVE LIST TO DR. SENGEL REGARDING COUNCIL SPONSORSHIPS AND ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTAL ONES. BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EMBEDDED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE NOT JUST COUNCIL'S. WE HAVE, PER YOUR LETTERS, I HAVE PEOPLE COMING SAYING WILL YOU SPONSOR THIS, AND OF COURSE I WANT TO SAY YES OR MAKE SURE TO BE INCLUSIVE OR, OR NO, THAT MIGHT NOT BE I'M A SPONSOR LIKE I WAS FOR CERTAIN OTHER THINGS. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A CUMULATIVE LIST SENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO SAY WHAT IS PENDING, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE IT, WHAT'S PENDING AND WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS CONFIRMATION OF THAT. BY NOW, A LOT OF THE SPENDING SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE CONCERN. UPON TALKING TO YOU, THERE'S REASONING TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT. >> IF I MAY, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A LIST. THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR THAT WE DO SEND A LETTER TO ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUTSIDE ENTITIES THAT HAVE NON-RECURRING CONTRACTS TO ASK THEM TO TELL US AN UPDATE ON THE CURRENT FUNDING THEY HAVE AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT THEY INTEND TO REQUEST THAT SUPPORT OF SPONSORSHIP IN THE NEW BUDGET. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT LIST OF WHO RECEIVED THAT LETTER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. DIRECTOR PADILLA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE'S AN EMAIL SENT ON JANUARY 23rd AT 3:06 THAT HAD THE ENTIRE LIST. SO THAT WAS ALREADY SENT. WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND IT AGAIN. >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE WILL USE THAT -- I WILL LOOK FOR THAT EMAIL AND WE'LL USE IT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CLARIFY ON -- AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ANYONE THAT HAS COME FROM A COUNCILOR. SO THAT LIST IS PRETTY INCLUSIVE ALREADY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. DIRECTOR STOKER. I SAID IT WRONG. THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE TO POINT IT OUT. COUNCILOR, PLEASE TRY TO KEEP BRIEF. THIS HAS GONE ON A LONG TIME. I WANT MAKE SURE WE GET OUR CHANCE AND CIRCLE BACK ONE TIME TO EVERYBODY. GET IT IN NOW BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING ON. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'LL START WITH HR. IN LINE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AROUND THE DISABILITY QUESTION FOR OEI. I HAPPEN -- I HOST INTERNS FROM MANDY'S FARM. WE HAVE TWO STARTING THIS WEEK. ONE OF WHICH IS IN A WHEELCHAIR. IN PREPARATION FOR THEM COMING, OBVIOUSLY, I'VE LOOKED AT THE LANDSCAPE AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHERE THEY CAN COME IN. THIS IS NOT STANDARD PRACTICE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IN OUR DEPARTMENT. I KNOW THERE ARE ADA RULES, YOU CANNOT ASK DISABILITY STATUS ON AN APPLICATION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OPTIONS. HOW DO WE DO THAT AS A CITY IN COMPLIANCE WITH ADA LAWS? HOW DO WE KNOW WHO NEEDS REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS WHEN APPLYING OR WHEN WE OFFER A POSITION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I DIDN'T RECEIVE THIS QUESTION IN ADVANSZ, SO I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU IF YOU NEED MORE DETAILS. IN GENERAL, IT IS THE EMPLOYEE'S OBLIGATION TO ASK FOR AN ACCOMMODATION. IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE THEY'RE REFERRED TO BY EMPLOYEE RELATIONS TO INITIATE THAT PROCESS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WORKPLACE PARAMETERS. THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT EXIST FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED BUILDING ACCESS ACCOMMODATIONS, WHICH IS HANDLED BY A SEPARATE ADA COORDINATOR THAT I BELIEVE IS HOUSED IN OUR MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR POSSIBLY GENERAL SERVICES. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. SO, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME UP BECAUSE MADAM PRESIDENT'S QUESTIONS I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEND IT AHEAD OF TIME. CAN YOU SEND US A BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THAT IS ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS? LIKE OUR WEBSITE. THERE SHOULD BE A QUESTION THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SELF-IDENTIFY WITH A DISCLOSURE. THAT'S HOW IT'S HANDLED AT UNM, CNM. AND WE DON'T CURRENTLY THAT I'VE LOOKED AT HAVE THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO RIGHT AWAY TO BEGIN TO -- SO WE CAN BE A MORE FRIENDLY EMPLOYER FOR FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES. I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. >> THERE IS NO QUESTION CURRENTLY. WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING. >>COUN. ROGERS: WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTION FOR HR, YOU TALKED ABOUT INTERNSHIPS FOR FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES. ARE THESE PAID OR UNPAID INTERNSHIPS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IT DEPENDS. WE ARE WORKING ON CREATING SOME PAID POSITIONS FUNDED BY THE CITY. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES AS WE CAN FIND FOR SUPPORTED EMPLOYMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, PNM WILL PAY FOR THE BULK OF EMPLOYEE WAGES AND WE MAKE UP A SMALL PORTION FOR STUDENT INTERNS. SIMILARLY, THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION HAS A SIMILAR SYSTEM WHERE THEY WILL PAY MOST OR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE SALARY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. I BELIEVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS RUNS A PROGRAM LIKE THAT FOR VETERANS. WE'RE LOOKING TO INCORPORATE AS MANY AUMG OPTIONS AS WE CAN. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. WHICH OTHER PEOPLE PAY FOR THEM TO WORK HERE? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER IF WE NEED TO DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET SO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE DIRECTLY HELPS WITH THAT. RATHER THAN LEAVING THAT UP TO OUR MOSTLY NONPROFITS WHO ARE ALREADY WORRIED ABOUT BUDGET CUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. MAYBE WE CAN TAKE A FRONT SEAT ROLE AND SAY WE'LL PAY THE INTERNS. NOT ALWAYS WANT TO PUT IT ON THEM AND WE COME UP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE ADMINISTRATION'S REDUNDANCY HAS BEEN POINTED OUT AND RESPONDED TO. I DON'T NEED TO GO FURTHER. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THE DISABILITY PRIORITY PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABILITIES. I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TURNOVER. MR. ROMARE OR WAS THE DIRECTOR BEFORE. WE WERE MAKING LOTS OF PROGRESS. THIS BILL HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2020. WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS. WHAT I'M HEARING TODAY IS CONCERNING TO ME BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SELF-IDENTIFYING I DON'T THINK THAT'S FABULOUS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE CAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB JUST LIKE ME AND YOU. THESE PEOPLE GO AND FILL AN APPLICATION AND I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYBODY'S BUSINESS WHETHER THEY HAVE A DISABILITY OR NOT OR WHETHER THEY HAVE A LEARN DISABILITY. IF THEY APPLY TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND QUALIFY FOR THAT JOB, THEY SHOULD STAND JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT JOB IF THEY QUALIFY AND HAVE AN INTERVIEW AND COME IN. SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS WITH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IT'S NOT WE DON'T -- I'M SORRY, I HAVE A BROTHER WHO HAS DISABILITIES, BUT THEY DO OFTENTIMES A BETTER JOB THAN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT ONCE WE HIRE THEM, THEN THEY IDENTIFY THAT THEY HAVE SOME NEEDS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AFTER THEY'RE HIRED. THE EXAMPLE IS THERE'S A YOUNG LADY I USED CARE FOR THAT WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR AND GOT HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ESSENTIAL SOCIAL SERVICES. UNM DIDN'T GIVE HER A DEGREE FOR FUN. BUT WHEN PEOPLE SEE HER, THEY THINK SHE'S NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THE JOB. SHE JUST NEEDS ASSISTANCE IN EXECUTING HER JOB. I HAVE SPONSORED THIS BILL INITIALLY. I KNOW IT WAS A SHIFT IN HOW WE DO THINGS HERE AT THE CITY. I FELT LIKE WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS. I'M SURE YOU'RE DOING -- YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AND TRYING TO DO IT AS WELL. I KNOW THE CITY CLERK HIRED SOME FOLKS. I KNOW DOING INTERNSHIPS IS FABULOUS. I REALLY LOVE US TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHEN SOMEONE WHO APPLIES AND IS QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB THEY APPLIED FOR AND HOW DO THEY GET A JOB THAT GIVES THEM SECURITY, 25-YEAR PENSION SO THEY CAN BE HERE THE DURATION. THERE'S A BUNCH OF ASPECTS TO THIS. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES WHO ARE LIMITED IN WHAT THEY CAN DO. I'M GLAD TO HELP TO FACILITATE THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES THAT ARE MORE QUALIFIED THAN ME. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANTED A QUICK FOLLOWP ON THE COUNCIL DIRECTED SPONSORSHIPS. I KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS OF MOVEMENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. SOMETHING YOU SAID JUST MADE ME REALIZE, THE LETTERS THAT WENT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING FUNDED, DID THEY GO OUT TO THE FOLKS THAT DIDN'T HAVE CONTRACTS YET? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DID. THAT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE SYSTEM BECAUSE AS YOU HAPPEN -- YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WAS TOLD THE CITY WASN'T GOING TO DO UNTIL I GOT INVOLVED. THEY DID NOT RECEIVE A LETTER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE COUNCILOR-DIRECTED SPONSORSHIPS GET THE LETTER AND AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME TO RESPOND SO THEY CAN BEGIN IN THE COMING YEAR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS IT WENT TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST. I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, I'LL CHECK INTO THAT AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN THE LIST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT WAS FUN. COUNCILORS, OKAY, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT I WILL NOT USE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS TACTIC. I'M GOING TO OPERATE THE WAY I ALWAYS DID. WHEN I CALL THE DIRECTOR, I GET THE DIRECTOR IN CONTACT WITH CONSTITCH WPT. I'LL HOLD THE DIRECTOR RESPONSIBLE. IF THE DIRECTOR FAILS, THE CONSTITUENT AND I KNOW THE DIRECTOR FAILS. THIS WORKS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUENT AND COUNCILOR KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WE CAN HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE. THE FOLLOW UP STARTS AND ENDS WITH ME. THAT'S WHO THEY WENT TO IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S MY STATEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO AGENDA NUMBER FIVE. THE JOURNAL. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 22nd JOURNAL. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. WE HAVE TO DO, OH, YEAH. OH GOSH. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC-318 ON THE AGENDA. IT'S A REQUEST AUTHORIZATION OF SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH STANLEY AGREEMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS OVER COMING OPIOID ABUSE DISORDER. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BACA. COUNCILORS, THOSE IN FAVOR OF ADDING EC-318 TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION -- [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. IT FAILS ON A 5-4. >>COUN. BASSAN: I MOVE -- ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE ARE NO REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILORS, ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS, AND THE PUBLIC FOR INDIVIDUALS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THERE WILL BE FOUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5th, AT 5 P.M., SATURDAY FEBRUARY 8, AT 10 A.M., WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 12 AT 5 P.M., AND SATURDAY FEBRUARY 15 AT 10 A.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY FEBRUARY 10, AT 5 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO CHAMBERS BASEMENT LEVEL OF THE ALBUQUERQUE GOVERNMENT CENTER. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THE LAND USE ZONING MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 12th IS CANCELLED. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-71 AUTHORIZING THE ISHANCE AND SALE OF THE TAXABLE INDUSTRIAL REV MY BOND. SERIES 2025 MAXIM PRINCIPLE AMOUNT OF $30 MILLION TO EQUIP THE SOCCER STADIUM FOR SPORTS AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION AND LEASE AGREEMENT PURCHASE AGREEMENT BOND AND OTHER DOCUMENTS ISSUENANCE WITH THE BOND AND CERTAIN TERMINATIONS RELATED TO THE BOND AND PROJECTERATIFYING CONSISTENT WITH THIS ORDINANCE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILOR BACA TO OPEN. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE DEFINITION OF IRB AND WHAT IT MEANS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE BOTH CHRIS AND -- >> CHRIS CHAVEZ AND RON PATEL WITH UNITED. >> AND MR. MEREHEAD IS HERE. >> CHRIS MEREHEAD IN THE BACK REPRESENTING THE TEAM. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. UNITED ATHLETIC CLUB, MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS NEW MEXICO UNITED IS A SOCCER TEAM IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. WE'RE REQUESTING $30 MILLION IN BONDS IN SUPPORT OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW STADIUM. IN NOVEMBER, 2023, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND UNITED FOR A SITE WITHIN BALLOON FIESTA PARK. THAT LEASE AGREEMENT REQUIRES THE TEAM SECURE REVENUE BONDS. THE TEAM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PURCHASE OF THE BONDS, NO CITY BONDS ARE USED TO PAY OFF THE BOND AND NO CITY CREDIT TO ENHANCE THE BOND. THE PROJECT IS AT 4900 BALLOON FIESTA PARKWAY. IT'S ZONED NON-RESIDENTIAL PARK AND OPEN SPACE ZONE WHICH LISTS SPORTS STADIUMS AS AN ALLOWABLE USE. THE STADIUM DEVELOPMENT AREA CONSISTS OF SEVEN ACRES OF LAND WITHIN AN EXISTING PARK LOT RUN ALONG THE EASTEN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. ONCE THE SITE IS COMPLETED THE TEAM PROJECTS 120 FULL-TIME ROLES AND OVER 130 TEMPORARY AND SEASONAL EMPLOYEES TO STAFF THE MATCHES AND OTHER STADIUM EVENTS. THE NEW POSITIONS ARE CONSIDERED FULL-TIME AND COME WITH FULL EMPLOYEE BENEFITS WITH THE COMPANY PAYING AT LEAST 50% OF HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS. THIS INCLUDES FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO, AS REQUIRED FOR ALL INCENTIVES. THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN TAX POSITIVE THROUGHOUT THE SPAN OF THE CONTRACT. THE PAYMENT IN LIEU OF THE TAXES WILL BE 25% FOR BOTH THE PERSONAL APPROPRIATE ESSENTIALLY MAKING IT A 75% TAX ABATEMENT. THIS IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE STATE'S INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND ACT AND CITY ENABING LEGISLATION. IT WILL MAKE A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY. IRB25-3 WILL BENEFIT ALBUQUERQUE'S TOURISM AND ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW VENUE AND INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE BALLOON FIESTA PARK. THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE ADOPTIVE CITY PLANS AND POLICIES AND MEETS COMMUNITY ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES. IT WOULD ADEQUATELY MEET THE EVALUATION CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY FOR INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND PROJECTS INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT THE CITY RECOUP THE VALUE OF THE INVESTMENT OVER THE TERM OF THE BOND. BASED ON THE ABOVE FINDINGS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF IRB25-3 AS PROPOSED IN THE PLAN APPLICATION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE RON PATEL, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PATEL. >> GOOD EVENING. YES, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT MR. CHAVEZ SAID. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK MOST OF YOU WHO KNOW THE TEAM KNOW WE'RE ABOUT COMMUNITY FIRST. IT'S ABOUT GROWING OPPORTUNITIES AND HOPE AND EXPORTING NEW MEXICO TO THE WORLD. WE'VE BEEN PROUD TO DO THAT FOR SIX YEARS, GOING INTO OUR SEVENTH YEAR DOING THAT NOW. THE STADIUM IS PRIVATELY FUNDED. IN ADDITION TO THE NUMBERS HE GAVE YOU. I WANT TO REFERENCE, WE HAVE AN ON ANYTHING PAYROLL OF $7.2 MILLION. AND WE WILL BE PURCHASE, WE ESTIMATE $3.4 MILLION ANNUALLY FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES IN NEW MEXICO. WE'RE EXCITED TO GET GOING ON THE PROJECT WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO. THE PRIVATE MONEY COMING FROM -- THEY'RE EXCITED THAT THIS HELPS GET IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EMAILS TODAY. I JUST WANT TO ASK THIS AND HAVE THE EXPERTS EXPLAIN IT ONE MORE TIME. THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE CITY TAXPAYER DOLLARS, CAN YOU JUST PLEASE EXPLAIN ONE MORE TIME HOW THIS WORKS AND WHERE IT DOESN'T COME FROM? >> ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. MADAM PRESIDENT, INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS ARE AN INCENTIVE WE USE TO PROVIDE A TAX ABATEMENT TO A PROJECT. IT'S A 20-YEAR ABATEMENT ON REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. SO, THE COMPANY OR THE TEAM IN THIS CASE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE BONDS. IT'S A PRIVATE PLACEMENT WHERE THEY GO AND ARRANGE, THERE'S NO SILTY FUNDS THAT GO TO THIS. THE $30 MILLION STATED IN THIS APPLICATION REFERS TO THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT THAT THE TEAM IS MAKING. SO, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT OUT THERE FOR FOLKS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS CONFUSED TODAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS THAT THE VOTERS ALREADY WEIGHED IN AND SAID NO TAX DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT. JUST MAKE SURE WE REITERATE THAT TO THE VOTERS THERE'S NO TAX DOLLARS INCLUDED IN THIS. IT'S TO HELP MAKE SURE THE STADIUM HAPPENS. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DO NOT GET A STADIUM? WHAT HAPPENS TO NEW MEXICO UNITED? THIS IS FOR MR. PATEL. >> YEAH, IT'S VERY HARD TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF A TEAM WITHOUT A STADIUM. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO PLAY AT ISOTOPES PARK FOREVER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A LEAGUE RULE THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A STADIUM YOU DON'T CONTINUE TO OPERATE. >> IT IS A LEAGUE RULE. WE'RE PAST THE DEADLINE ALREADY. THE LEAGUE IS BEING GRACIOUS KNOWING WE'RE TOWARD BUILDING A STADIUM. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. MOSCO AND MAYBE EITHER MR. CHAVEZ OR MR. MEREHEAD, ARE THERE ANY TAX DOLLARS GO TOWARD THIS PROJECT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AT THIS POINT WITH THIS IRB THERE ARE NO TAX DOLLARS GOING TO THIS PROJECT. I BELIEVE MR. MEREHEAD CAN BACK ME UP ON THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THAT'S CORRECT. THERE IS NO CITY MONEY GOING DIRECTLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOSCO AND MR. MEREHEAD, IF THIS IRB PASSES, AND I GUESS I'LL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ALSO SAY THAT I WAS ASKED TO SPONSOR THIS BILL. I DECLINED SPONSORSHIP OF THIS BILL. THERE'S A LAND USE APPEAL OCCURRING ON THIS MATTER. SO, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE TIMELINE PARAMETERS AND MR. PATEL, FOR YOU, UNITED, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WATCHING, THIS IS NOT AGAINST UNITED. THIS IS ME LISTENING TO MY CONSTITUENTS. IF THIS IRB PASSES, AT ANY POINT IN TIME WHEN IT COMES TO THE UNITED STADIUM, ARE THERE TAX DOLLARS BEING USED FOR THIS PROJECT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YES. THERE ARE STATE CAPITAL OUTLAY TAXES THAT FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND APPROVED BY THE GOVERNOR FOR A STADIUM IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT WASN'T SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED FOR BALLOON FIESTA PARK. SO THOSE FUNDS HAVE A TIME LIMIT OF THREE YEARS. SO, WE WILL HAVE THAT DEADLINE APPROACHING. ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS TO BALLOON FIESTA PARK THAT WILL INCIDENTALLY BENEFIT THE STADIUM AS WELL AS VENDOR'S ROW AND OTHER PERMANENT BATHROOMS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD TO THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S RELATED TO YOUR PURVIEW, BUT IF YOU'RE WRONG, LET ME KNOW. >> AS RELATED TO THE IRB, NO. OVER THE TERM OF THE BOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD FOR THE CONSTITUENTS ASKING, THERE ARE GOING TO BE TAX DOLLARS USED INCIDENTALLY TO HELP WITH THIS. AND THEY'RE STATE TAX DOLLARS. I THINK THAT PEOPLE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, DON'T DIF -- -- -- WHETHER IT'S ANY -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IS THE BEST PERSON TO ASK, WHETHER IT'S MR. MEREHEAD OR MR. CHAVEZ OR MR. PATEL, WHAT IS THE URGENCY TO GET THIS IRB SECURED NOW BEFORE THE MATTERS OF AN APPEAL ARE RESOLVED? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LEAGUE THE COMPANY HAS TO HIRE BOND COUNSEL ON THIS. WE GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. WHAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GETTING TO THE POINT OF WITH THIS LEGISLATION IS THAT IN THE PROCESS THAT IT MOVES FORWARD IT'S IN PLACE AND THE COMPANY CAN GO TO PURCHASE THE BONDS AND GET EVERYTHING LINED UP. WE'RE BASICALLY GETTING EVERYTHING SET UP AND ONCE ALL THE OTHER ISSUES GET RESOLVED, THE TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE AT AN APPROPRIATE PACE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE SO MANY TIMES WE FIND OURSELVES IN THIS SITUATION WHERE THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THE CONTINUE. A LOT OF TIMES GETTING YOURSELF LINED UP IS A GOOD THING, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE IT'S PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. I LEAVE THAT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES TO DECIDE AND WHETHER IT'S THIS CASE OR ANY OTHERS IN THE CITY. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YOUR LINE OF QUESTIONING BROUGHT UP ANOTHER QUESTION. FOR SOME REASON, IF WE DON'T GET TO BUILD ON BALLOON FIESTA PARK, THIS MEANS THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE LOCATION, SO DOES THAT THE MEAN THE BOND FUNDS WON'T BE ABLE TO BE USED? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE'LL COME BACK THROUGH AN AMENDMENT. IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE COUNCIL POSITIONS A PROJECT AT BALLOON FIESTA PARK. ALL OF THE ANALYSIS HAS BEEN DONE THAT WAY, IF IT CHANGES COURSE WE ARE REQUIRED TO COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS THE NEW LOCATION. >>COUN. ROGERS: SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO -- LET'S SAY THIS PASSES BALLOON FIESTA IS A NO GO, YOU COME BAB BACK TO THE BODY? WHAT ABOUT THE BOND YOU PURCHASED? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE BOND WOULDN'T CLOSE UNTIL THE PROJECT IS LINED UP FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO, FOR THE BOND TO CLOSE, EVERYTHING WOULD NEED TO BE LINED UP WITH THE COMPANY HAS THE FINANCING AND HAVE THE DESIGN IN PLACE AND MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS ACTUALLY BY THE COUNCIL TO PUT THAT LINED UP TO DO THAT. IN TERMS OF CLOSING THE BOND AND MOVING FORWARD, IT IS CONTOUCHINGANT . >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY FOR THE RECORD, ANY OF THIS IS CONTISK -- CONTINGMENT ON THIS. >> >> THIS IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL THAT IS THE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND, PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT, AND GROSS IT DOES NOT IMPLICATE OR HAVE INFLUENCE ON ANY OTHER PROCEEDINGS OF THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BACA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BACA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, LET'S TAKE A BREAK AND COME BACK AT A QUARTER TILL. THAT'S 30 MINUTES. IS IT R [ BREAK UNTIL 7:45 ] . >>COUN. BASSAN: ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE. WE ARE BACK AT IT. FOR THE RECORD, IT SAYS 7:46, AND I SAID 7:45, RIGHT? JUST MAKING SURE. WE'RE BACK AT IT. GOD BLESS YOU. COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 11, APPEALS. AC-29, FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH, AMBER WEB APPEALS THE EXAMINER'S DECISION OF THE -- FOR A SIGN TO BE VISIBLE FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THE ISSUE IN THIS APPEAL IS WHETHER A VARIANCE SHOULD BE AALLOWED FOR AN ILLUMEINATED SIGN AT FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH. UNDER THE IDO WITHOUT A VARIANCE SIGN AN ELECTRONIC SIGN CANNOT BE WITHIN 200 FEET OF ANY DIRECTION OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICT AND VISIBLE FROM THAT ZONE DISTRICT. THE CHURCH APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE. SO THEY COULD REPLACE A NONCONFORMING READER BOARD STYLE SIGN WITH ELECTRONIC SIGN. THE SIGN IS LOCATED ACROSS THE SEAT FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICT AND VISIBLE FROM THAT ZONE. THE THE ZONING HEARING DENIED THE APPLICATION, SAYING IT CAUSES ADVERSE IMPACTED RELATED TO THE LIGHT EMITTED TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. THE CHURCH APPEALED, AND THE COUNCIL REFERRED IT TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER AND RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL GRANTS THE APPEAL. THE LUHO FOUND THE CHURCH DEMONSTRATED FACTS SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST. SPECIFICALLY, THE LUHO FOUND EVIDENCE THAT DEMONSTRATES THE PROPOSED NEW ELECTRONIC SIGN WILL ACTUALLY REDUCE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS CAUSED BY THE OLD READER BOARD SIGN BECAUSE IT CAN BE UPDATED ELECTRONICALLY, IT EMITS LESS LIGHT AND IT'S DIMMABLE AND THE CHURCH CAN TURN IT ON AND OFF. THE LHU CONCLUDED THE DENIAL WAS AN ERROR. AND THE CHURCH SUPPORTED THE VARIANCE CRITERIA. THE LUHO RECOMMENDS GRANTING APPEAL. THE FIRST CONDITION IS THE SIGN ILLUMINATION SHALL BE TURNED OFF FROM 10 P.M. TO 6 A.M. EVERY DAY, THE EXCEPTION OF CHRISTMAS EVE AND THE ENTIRE WEEK OF HOLY WEEK. TWO, THE APPLICANT WILL COMPLY WITH ELECTRONIC SIGN REGULATION IN THE IDO LIKE REPLACEMENT AND SIGN TRANSMISSION USE AND OTHER REGULATIONS. THIS IS ACCEPT OR REJECT. WE WON'T HEAR FROM THE PARTIES, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON THE RECORD SO FAR. AND COUNCIL'S OPTION IS ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION WHICH THE SIGN WILL BE APPROVED, OR REJECT, IN WHICH CASE WE'LL HEAR THE FULL MATTER AT THE NEXT HEARING. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO, THE EXISTING SIGN THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, IF THEY WERE TO GET -- LET'S SAY THEY APPROVE THE EXISTING SIGN RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE TO GET THE SAME KIND OF VARIANCE, CORRECT? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT WITHIN 200 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND THE EXISTING SIGN IS ILLUMINATED. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THE ESSENCE OF THAT RESTRICTION IS REALLY -- IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOME OF THE NEW TECHNOLOGY BEING ABLE TO TURN A SIGN LIKE THAT OFF AT 10 O'CLOCK. WHEREAS, SOME OF THE OLDER SIGNS THAT HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE LIGHT POLLUTION, WITH THE SAME VARIANCE WITH LESS LIGHT POLLUTION AND CONTROL THEM A LOT MORE. I THINK THE ESSENCE OF A BILL LIKE THIS OR THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE IN THAT REGARD IS TO ENHANCE THAT. IT WOULD BE TO ENHANCE THESE TYPES OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND THAT REGARD. THAT WOULD, AGAIN, CONTRIBUTE TO LESS LIGHT POLLUTION IN THAT REGARD. I KNOW THERE MAY BE OTHER QUESTIONS. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE LUHO'S RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR GROUT, MAYBE OVER HERE TOO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M LOOKING AT YOU, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. YOU KNOW, I AM, WHEN YOU SEE ME LIKE THIS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN PERSON OR VIRTUALLY IF THEY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA. THE PUBLIC COMMENT GROUND RULES, TONIGHT EACH PARTICIPANT GETS TWO MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. WE'LL RING A BELL WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS LESS, FOLLOWED BY BRICK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR GROUT'S OFFICE FOR MEETING WITH ME ABOUT A MONTH AGO. ALTHOUGH, I REALLY CAN'T SAY THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET TOO FAR AFTER THE MEETING. I DO HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS. I ALSO LIKE TO THANK COUNCILOR ROGERS'S OFFICE FOR REACHING OUT TO ME ABOUT A MONTH AGO. I STILL HAVEN'T HERD BACK FROM HER OFFICE EITHER. IT TROUBLES ME. I'M DISCOVERING THERE'S AN OATH OF OFFINGSS -- OFFICE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNED BY ALL OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THAT SIGNED OATH OF OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE TURNED INTO THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN SANTA FE. I'M PUTTING IN NUMEROUS IPRA REQUESTS ASKING FOR THE SIGNED OATH OF OFFICE. BECAUSE I'M LOOKING FOR A PATTERN. I'VE HAD RUN-INS WITH THE POLICE THAT THEY WERE DOING THINGS THAT I DIDN'T THINK WERE RIGHT. I'M DOING A LITTLE INVESTIGATION OF MY OWN. IN THAT INVESTIGATION, I'M RUNNING INTO OBSTACLES. TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WITH AUTHORITY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MY EFFORTS SEEM TO GET ME TRESPASSED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. MAYBE YOU FOLKS NEED TO LOOK AT THE STATUTORY FOUNDATION, THE TRESPASSING SOMEBODY FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY. AND HOW THAT COMPLIES WITH THE AMENDMENT OF DUE PROCESS. LAST I KNOW, UNLESS I'M COMMITTING A CRIME, I CAN'T BE TRESPASSED ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. REGARDLESS OF HOW HURT SOMEBODY FEELS THAT DON'T LIKE ME BEING HERE WITH A CAMERA, IT SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER OBVIOUS THING THAT PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE DON'T SEEM TO LIKE AS FAR AS WHEN YOU TRY TO ROAM THE HALLS OF THE PUBLIC PLACES. IT'S ONLY A CAMERA. IT SHOOTS 60 FRAMES A SECOND. IT'S NEVER HURT ANYBODY UNLESS YOU'RE WALKING THROUGH A CAMERA STORE AND ONE FALLS ON YOUR HEARD. THANK YOU. >> NICK FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU WANT TO BE ADDRESSED AS THE COUNCIL OR CITY? BUT YOU DON'T ACT LIKE IT. YOU ACT LIKE OVERLORDS. I COME TO YOU WITH A PROBLEM AND YOU SAY TO ME, TELL ME THE PROBLEM, AND I TELL YOU THE PROBLEM AND YOU SAY GIVE IT SOME TIME WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. I SAY OKAY, I WAIT. YOU NEVER GET BACK TO ME. I GO BACK TO YOU. I SAY YOU NEVER GOT BACK TO ME. YOU SAY GIVE IT SOME TIME. I SAY OKAY, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN THIS HAPPENS. NOW NEVER GET BACK. AFTER BEING IN YOUR CITY LESS THAN THREE MONTHS, MINDING MY BUSINESS, YOU SEND MEN TO GUNS TO ME UNDER THE GUISE OF MEDICAL REASONS WHERE THEY HAVE NO TRAINING. THEY ATTEMPTED TO CHASE ME AWAY FROM EVERY PUBLIC PLACE WHERE THEY SEE ME UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW, YOU AND THEY EVEN GO FAR AS TO LIE ABOUT ME AND OTHERS. WHAT HAVE I DONE TO YOU, TELL ME PLEASE? INSTEAD OF JUST IGNORING, WHY NOT LISTEN AND THEN TAKE ACTION? YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES NOT BEING FULFILLED AND YOU'RE BEING LAZY. YOU'RE NOT A COUNCIL. I HAD AN ARGUMENT WITH A FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT FOLKS HE SAID WERE EVIL. I SAID TO HIM, THEY'RE NOT EVIL, IT'S WHAT THEY DO THAT IS EVIL. IS HE RIGHT? ARE YOU EVIL? OR IS IT WHAT YOU DO THAT IS EVIL? THE LINES ARE BEGINNING TO BLUR. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> HI, ALL. MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD MEETING FOR FEBRUARY WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE 20th AT 5:00 P.M. AT THE PLAZA DEL SOL BUILDING. INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT CABQ.GOV/CIVIL RIGHTS/BOARD. I'M WORKING TO WORK ON THAT AT SOME POINT. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY ILSE. >>COUN. BASSAN: BEFORE YOU START. IF YOU ARE ON DECK, COME TO THE FRONT ROW AND THAT WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HEAR YOU NEXT. NEXT. >> YES, MA'AM. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILORS, I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I FIRST ACKNOWLEDGED WE LIVE ON STOLEN LAND. I RECOGNIZE, AND I JOINED WITH MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT PARTICIPATED IN A WITHOUT AN IMMIGRANT DAY TODAY. I'M A FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN. I'M A DAUGHTER OF A WEST IMMIGRANT. AND SUPPORT THE SANCTUARY STATUS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I HOPE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ON THE MENU ANY TIME THIS YEAR WHEN PEOPLE ARE SO SCARED. I HOPE YOU KEEP THE SANCTUARY STATUS. IT WAS MY PRIVILEGE TO JOIN THE TIME IN COUNT. I REMEMBER VERY DISTINCTLY SITTING IN HERE WHERE JAMES ASKED PLEASE DO NOT DO THE SWEEPS. IN FACT, COUNCILORS ASKED PLEASE DO NOT DO SWEEPS. THEY WERE ASSURED THERE WAS NO SWEEPS. WE GET OUT THERE, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT SECTION? WE DIDN'T HAVE LOT OF PEOPLE TO COUNT BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN SWEPT THE DAY BEFORE WE STARTED IN THAT SECTION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN UNDERCOUNT. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT HAPPENED. THIS IS NOT A VIABLE LONG-TERM SOLUTION. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WITH WHY WE KEEP MOVING PEOPLE AROUND. REASON NUMBER 11, AND I HAVE TEN PREVIOUSLY POSTED AND SAID THEM HERE. REASON 11 TO VOTE NO FOR KELLER IN 2025 IS THAT HE IS A LIAR. SO, BRINGING ME BACK TO CHIEF MEDINA, OR MAJOR EMBARRASS TO OUR CITY. WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET A TRUE LEADER TO BE AT THE HELM OF THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE FORCE? I ALREADY HAVE TRAUMA-INDUCES ISSUES WITH THE POLICE. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A POLICE OFFICER ROLE MODEL FOR THE POLICE SO I CAN RESTORE MY ISSUES AND ATTITUDE. I THINK WE NEED A LEADER WHO WE CAN TRUST. THANK YOU. >> ILSE, FOLLOWED BY SHAUN. >> GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PIT COUNT. I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMITTEE THIS YEAR. WE PREDICTED OUR ARRANGEMENTS ON HOW TO CONDUCT THE PIT TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S INSTRUCTIONS WE SHOULD STICK TO ONE PARTICULAR ZONE. EVERYONE COUNTS IN THAT ZONE AND THE PROMISE OR AGREEMENT THEY WOULDN'T BE DISPLACED IN THAT ZONE. BUT THEY WERE DISPLACED IMMEDIATELY BEFORE WE GOT THERE. IT HAPPENED IN THE ID, WE'VE GOT INTERVIEWS. SOMEONE INTERVIEWED A GROUP WHO HAD JUST BEEN DISPLACED ON THE WEST SIDE. AND THEN THEY WERE ALSO DISPLACED NOTICE POSTED ON THE 28th AT 1st AND ARVEDA. AND WE WERE COUNTING THAT DAY. IF THE CITY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO THREATEN PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DISPLACE THEM IMMEDIATELY BEFORE WE NEED TO COUNT THEM, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. JUST HEARD LISA SPEAK. I'M A VOLUNTEER. THERE WERE SO MANY VOLP -- VOLP BLN VOLEN DOOR VOLUNTEERS. WE GIVE OUR TIME TO DO THIS. AND IT'S JUST THE LARGER PICTURE. YES, THEY DIDN'T SWEEP SHOULDLY AS WE WERE COUNTING. BUT ANYONE CAN UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T MESS WITH THAT -- YOU GET MONEY FOR EACH PERSON THAT WE CAN GET COUNTED. WE CAN'T COUNT PEOPLE IF WE CAN'T FIND THEM. THIS JUST BLOWS MY MIND. AND IT'S YEAR, AFTER YEAR, AFTER YEAR. IT SEEMS THE CITY IS COMPULSIVE. WE NEED TO DISPLACE PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS GOING ON. IT'S COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. >> SHAUN FOLLOWED BY AARON. AARON FOLLOWED BY DAVID. DAVID FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> HELLO. WHAT A HECK OF A WAY TO START OFF THE NEW YEAR. MORE SWEEPS, MORE PEOPLE -- A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. IT HURTS. I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT I HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WILLING TO FIGHT AND HELP AND FEED ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND WE KEEP DOING THIS. I WANT US TO LOOK MORE INTO OUR HEARTS SO THEY CAN FIGHT THIS FEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING. A LOT OF US ARE VERY COMFORTABLE FAR MORE THAN WE NEED TO BE. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH OF A VOICE. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE IT TO THE TEETH, RIGHT TO THE SILTY AND GOVERNMENT AND SAY COME ON GUYS WE CAN DO THIS. I BELIEVE IN US. JUST FIGHT THAT FEAR OF SOME OF MY FRIENDS MIGHT NOT BE HERE. SOME OF MY FRIENDS CAN'T BE IDENTIFIED WHO THEY WANT TO BE. I HOPE THE CITY UPHOLDS THAT AND GATHERS BEHIND US AND WORKS WITH US TO END DISCRIMINATION OF HOMELESSNESS AND IMMIGRANTS AND ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET TO IDENTIFY WHO THEY ARE PROPERLY. AND WE JUST GET CAUGHT UP AGAIN BEHIND RED TAPE AND LEGISLATORS. WHY DON'T WE GET TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY FINALLY REALIZE THAT I -- THAT COULD BE MY CHILD OR LOVED ONE DEPORTED. THEY ARE. I ASK WE FIGURE SOMETHING OUT AND LOVE. THAT'S IT. JUST LOVE MORE, PLEASE. >> RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY TAD. TAD FOLLOWED BY ALEXES. >> THANK YOU. WELL, BETWEEN TWO DEMOCRATS. WELL, HERE IS THREE DEMOCRATS DISGUSTING. [ INAUDIBLE ] -- ROGERS. SHE'S NOT HERE. THEY ARE LIE HOW MUCH THEY CAN DO FOR THE CITY. NOW COMES TO ROGERS. WHERE IS SHE AT? >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU NEED TO DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO ME, PLEASE. >> IS SHE AROUND? >>COUN. BASSAN: YOU CAN DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO ME ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DISCUSS. >> I'LL DIRECT TO ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC. NOW, SHE -- MEMBER OF HOMELESS -- WHATEVER IT SAYS, HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNCIL. THAT'S WHY SO MANY HOMELESS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T HAVE TIME. THAT'S DISGUSTING. THAT'S JUST DISGUSTING. THEY WERE SHOOTING OUT OF THE WINDOW. THEY STOLE GENERATOR. TAKE THEM OUT FROM THE STREET. >> ALEXIS FOLLOWED BYTRESIA. >> HELLO, CITY COUNCIL. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING BEFORE YOU ALL. I'M NOT USUALLY ONE FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING. IN THE PAST I COUNTED ON THOSE I VOTED FOR TO REPRESENT ME. I TRUSTED THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR MY COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST. THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE. THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT ORDINANCE 24-63. THIS ALLOWS ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT VIA A HEARING OFFICER APPOINTED BY OR FIRED BY THE MAYOR. HOW DOES THIS ALLOW FOR IMPARTIAL JUDGMENT? THIS WILL HARM SMALL BUSINESSES AND POOR COMMUNITIES AND WILL PREVENT PEOPLE FROM REPORTING CRIMES FOR FEAR OF LOSING THEIR BUSINESS. THIS WILL HURT CRUCIAL ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD. AND ARE OFTEN TARGET OF DISRUPTIVE PROTESTS. 24-63 WOULD ALLOW CIVIC CLOSURE PLACES LIKE PLANNED PARENTHOOD. CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS LOOSELY DEFINED REGARDLESS OF THE PERPETRATE. THIS ALLOWS A WOMEN'S HEALTH CLINIC TO BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE THE UNFORTUNATE VICTIM OF BURGLARY. THIS ALLOWS HATEFUL INDIVIDUALS TO TARGET GROUPS OR BUSINESSES IN AN EFFORT TO SHUT IT DOWN. I'M SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS ORDINANCES HURTS PLACES LIKE QUIRKY BOOKS. ONE OF THE FEW PLACES I'VE SEEP TAKING ACTIVE PART OF HELPING THE COMMUNITIES. IT'S A PRIVATE BUSINESS, WHO THEY ALLOW SHOULD BE A PRIVATE BUSINESS MATTER. THIS IS TARGETED MATTER TO HURT QUIRKY BOOKS AND THEIR EFFORT TO HELP UNHOUSED PEOPLE. THEY HAVE DONE MORE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY THAN THE ORDINANCES THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED. THE CITY COUNCIL COULDN'T PASS THE PREDATORY RENTAL LAST YEAR. THE ORD INSTANCE SHORTSIGHTED AND DOES NOTHING TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> THERESA FOLLOWED BY MARCY. >> CITY COUNCILORS, I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AS YOUR RELECTED CHAIR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT COMMISSION. I'M HERE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR CRITICAL FUNDING FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. LAST YEAR WE SAW DEVASTATING CUTS OF $700 MILLION OR 40% THAT IMPACTED LIVE SAFING SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS. MANY PROGRAMS SUFFERED REDUCTIONS FORCING THEM TO SCALE BACK ESSENTIAL SURVIVORS. NOW WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF FURTHER FEDERAL CUTS, WE ARE FACING AN EVEN GREATER CRISIS. IF THESE CUTS COME TO PASS, PROGRAMS ACROSS ALBUQUERQUE WILL EXPERIENCE DETRIMENTAL REDUCTIONS THAT PUT LIVES AT RISK. THAT IS WHY ON BEHALF OF THE DVSA COMMISSION I'M STANDING FIRM ON THE 1.87 FUNDING REQUEST. AND SEEKING SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE CUT THAT WILL IMPACT PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO SERVE ALL WALKS OF LIFE REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS IN EVERY DISTRICT. THIS REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND SHARED WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS. NOW, IN THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES WE NEED ACTION. SURVIVORS CANNOT AFFORD DELAYS AND EITHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE SHELTER AND SUPPORT. I AND YOU TO PRIORITIZE THE FUNDING AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO REMAIN THE CITY THAT PROTECTS VULNERABLE, STANDS FIRM AGAINST SEXUAL ASSAULT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE MUST NOT ALLOW LIFE SAVING SERVICES TO DISAPPEAR DUE TO INACTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MARSLEN FOLLOWED BY JOHN. >> FIRST, I WANT TO ECHO SENTIMENTS THAT WERE SAID EARLIER ABOUT KEEPING THE SANCTUARY STATUS OF THIS CITY. PEOPLE ARE SCARED. PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO BE SCARED. THEY SHOULDN'T BE SCARED TO LIVE IN THEIR HOMES. THEY'RE IMPORTANT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE LOVE PEOPLE. THEY'RE IN FEAR OF THEIR LIVES. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KEEP THAT STATUS PROTECTED AND KEEP PEOPLE PROTECTED FROM ICE INCURSION. WE CAN'T FUND MORE THAN ONE ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC BATHROOM. WE CAN GET ACTION TO SAYING A BILL PROTECTING IMPOVERISHED SENIORS FROM HAVING THEIR LAND BOUGHT OUT FROM THEM? BUT WE CAN'T DO RENT CONTROL TO HELP OTHER 91,000 PEOPLE PRICED OUT OF HOUSING. AND WHAT FOR OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON THE STREETS? SIMPLY TRYING TO SURVIVE. SHELTERS, SWEEPS, FINES, MAYBE A WE FEEL BAD FOR YOU MESSAGE. THE CITY COULD REALLY DEAL WITH A NICE DIRECT ACTION FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL. I SEE IT IN SOME INDIVIDUAL CITY EMPLOYEES. MAYBE A COUNCILOR OR TWO. I KNOW THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT HOUSE PEOPLE. I KNOW THESE PROGRAMS HAVE SUCCESS STORIES. AND ARE CRUCIAL FOR SOME FOLKS. I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT ALL OF THAT. THESE PROGRAMS ARE FILLED WITH FEATURES THAT ROADBLOCK OTHER PEOPLE FROM ACCESSING IT ASSISTANCE THEY NEED TO SURVIVE. IT CREATES SITUATIONS THAT FOLKS ARE EXPLOITED BY LANDLORDS AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE NEED MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND EQUITABLE HEALTH. YOU CAN'T FREED MARKET YOUR WAY OUT OF A HOUSING CRISIS. I'M SURE SOME DAY, AFTER IT'S FAR TOO LATE, WE'LL GET TO THOSE REFORMS. >> JOHN FOLLOWED BY AARON. >> GOOD SAY, CITY COUNCIL. TO RECAP, THE FLAG BEHIND YOU IS A UNITED STATES SEA JURISDICTION PLAN WHICH PUTS ANY GOVERNMENT WITH IT UNDERNEATH BRITISH RULE. THE GOLD FRINGE REPRESENTS MARSHAL LAW AND SUSPENDS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AFTER THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION OF 1776 WE HAD TWO TYPES OF CITIZENS. AMERICAN STATE CITIZENS WHICH MEANS ALL LIVING PEOPLE, WE HAVE RIGHTS, AND GUARANTEED A REPUBLIC STYLE GOVERNMENT AND ON LAND MORE CIVIL AUTHORITY THAN THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THE SECOND IS THE UNITED STATES CITIZEN, CAPITAL AND LOWER CASE. CAN BE LIVING OR CORPORATIONS, HAVE ONLY CIVIL RIGHTS AND HAVE BEEN SINCE 1816. AS OF 1868 AS A RESULT OF THE CIVIL WAR, A NEW CITIZEN WAS CREATED CALLED UNITED STATES CITIZEN ALL IN CAPITAL LETTERS WHICH ARE CORPORATE CITIZENS. THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS. AND ARE ENSLAVED BY DEBT. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR TAXES. WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE UNITED STATES. ONE THE CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES. EACH STATE IS A SOVEREIGN NATION. AND ANY PERSON BORN IN IT HAS A BIRTH RIGHT OF AMERICAN STATE CITIZEN. AND THERE'S THE FEDERAL UNITED STATES, THESE STATES ARE EXISTING ON PAPER AND IN THOUGHT BUT NOT PHYSICAL STATES. THEY'RE DEMOCRACIES, WHICH MEANS MOB ROLL, AND OPERATE IN THE INTERNATIONAL JURISDICTION OF THE SEA. THERE'S A CORPORATE UNITED STATES COMPOSED OF LEGAL ENTITIES C-CORPS NONPROFITS FOUNDATIONS, LLCs, ARE NAMES ARE IN CAPITAL LETTERS. THEY'RE OPERATED OUT OF SEA JURISDICTION. THEY DON'T ANSWER TO THE PEOPLE AT ALL. AND RUN BY THEIR OWN CORPORATE CONGRESS. THEY'RE TOTALITARIAN. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT DONALD TRUMP RUNS. >> AARON FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY COMMENTS. MY COMMENTS ARE ABOUT THE TOPIC OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES BEING INCORPORATED INTO CITY STREETS. BY NOW, MOST PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE BENEFITS OF EVs, LOWER COST OF MAINTENANCE, BETTER PERFORMANCE. I'M NOT GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT STUFF. BUT WHAT'S REALLY PUZZLING TO ME IS WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG TO GET THESE VEHICLES INTO THE STREETS? THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. I'VE READ SOME THINGS ONLINE. MAYBE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS. BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SAID THE FLEET OF FIRST RESPONDERS, AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN THEIR FLEETS. I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT IS. IT SEEMS BACKWARDS. BECAUSE THOSE FLEETS BEGIN TO SAVE THE MOST MONEY. AND THEY WOULD HAVE VEHICLES THAT HELP DO THEIR JOB BETTER. THERE AREN'T ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR EVERY CATEGORY YET, BUT FIRE TRUCKS, POLICE CARS, THE ONES THAT GET THE MOST HEAVY DUTY USE ARE OUT THERE. I GUESS MY POINT IS I WANT TO URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THESE ORGANIZATIONS EVALUATE THESE VEHICLES, IF THEY DON'T WORK, BUT THEY DO. SO, THAT'S ALL. I DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. YOU GUYS ARE NEXT. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT INFORMATION. >> ANDREA FOLLOWED BY ANDREW ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS. I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE NON-EMERGENCY CALL CENTER RESPONSE. I MET WITH A FRIEND THIS WEEKEND WHO HAD THE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION OF HAVING TO CALL THE NON-EMERGENCY CALL CENTER AND THERE WERE INCONSISTENIES THE WAY SHE WAS TREATED. THERE WAS TWO TIMES SHE CALLED FOR INTAKE AND THERE WAS QUESTIONS THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE. I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A TRIGGER WARNING, BUT THIS COMMENT HAS TO DO WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT. SO, I HAVE A FRIEND, A CLOSE FRIEND WHO I ACCOMPANIED WHILE FILING AN EMERGENCY POLICE REPORT FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT. UPON CALLING THE NON-EMERGENCY 911 CALL CENTER SHE WAS TOLD SHE NEEDED TO GIVE INTAKE PRIOR TO THE OFFICER GETTING THE FORMAL REPORT. TWO FRIENDS SAT WITH HER WHILE SHE RECOUNTED WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. THE CALL CENTER STAFF ASKED INVASIVE QUESTIONS LIKE DID HE HOLD YOU DOWN. SHE BROKE DOWN WHILE RELIVING HER TRAUMA. THE QUESTION LASTED ABOUT 15 MINUTES AND WAS TOLD SHE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT THREE HOURS FOR AN OFFICER TO COME OUT. IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT. MY FRIEND WAS EXHAUSTED OF HAVING TO RECOUNT SO MUCH DETAILS AND DECIDED TO WAIT TO GET THE FORMAL REPORT. THAT WAS YESTERDAY. I MET WITH HER TO ENSURE SHE HAD SOMEONE TO SIT WITH HER WHILE SHE'S WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. MY FRIEND GAVE THE NON-EMERGENCY NUMBER AND GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION TO SEND AN OFFICER. THIS TIME SHE ASKED WHY SHE WAITED SO LONG TO FILE THE REPORT. I'VE SEEN THIS FRIEND ISOLATE HERSELF, EXPERIENCE SYMPTOMS OF PTSD AND BE IN FEAR OF THIS GUY SHOWING UP. SHE THOUGHT THERAPY AND HAD TO WORK TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. ADDITIONALLY, THE ATTENDANT ASKED FOR THE PERPETRATOR'S PHONE NUMBER WHICH MADE HER FEEL UNSAFE. WHICH THE PREVIOUS 911 CENTER DID NOT ASKING. INCONSISTENCY DURING THE INTAKE PROCESS, THE LACK OF TRAUMA-INFORMED QUESTION, AND ASKING OF INVASIVE AND INVALIDATING QUESTIONS WERE REALLY HARD TO HEAR. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THINGS THAT TO NOT WORK COMPLETELY WELL AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE CARE A LOT ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT. I IMPLORE YOU TO CREATE STANDARDS FOR ADDRESSING 911 NON-EMERGENCY CALLS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. IT WAS DISHEARTENING TO SEE ALL OF THAT HAPPEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: HANG ON JUST A SECOND. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I WANTED TO ASK THE CAO TO MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT SHE JUST TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED. IT NEEDS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT SHE HAD TO REVISIT THAT TRAUMA THAT SHE WAS INITIALLY DEALING WITH. AND OFFICERS THEN COMING BACK AND ASKING WHY DIDN'T SHE CALL RIGHT AWAY. SOMETHING IS MESSED UP IN THE SYSTEM. WE JUST HEARD FROM OUR DV COMMISSION THAT IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE TO TAKE CARE OF THE VICTIMS OF CRIME IMMEDIATELY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FOLLOW THROUGH AND GIVE THOSE VICTIMS ALL THE RESOURCES THEY NEED IMMEDIATELY TO BE ABLE TO BE SAFE. IN THIS SITUATION, THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD HAVE RETURNED AND CAUSED EVEN MORE PROBLEMS. IF A FAMILY MEMBER OR CHILDREN CAME TO HELP, IT COULD HAVE ENDANGERED THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FIX THAT SYSTEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU FOR SHARING. >> ANDREW, FOLLOWED BY JANET. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M COMMENTING ON THE RESPONSE TO ENCAMPMENTS. NOTICE IS GIVEN, STORAGE IS OFFERED, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT THERE BEFORE DISBURSEAL, IT'S DECLARED ABANDONED AND DESTROYED. PER ORDINANCE SECTION THREE AND SIX, THEY'RE GIVEN A MAXIMUM OF TWO HOURS. IT'S EASY FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABSENT FOR THAT NOTICE AND MISS THE SERVICES AND ABILITY TO RETRIEVE POSSESSIONS. APPRECIATE HOUSING IS DIFFICULT TO TACKLE, BUT THE ORDINANCE LET'S US DECLEAR THAT THE PLACE SOMEONE STAYS ARE TRASH. IT MAY BE LEGAL, BUT IT ISN'T RIGHT. BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T CHECK THOSE DWELLINGS FOR MEDICINE, DOCUMENTS ID. THAT NEEDS A POLICY CHANGE. I ECHO THE CONCERN OF THREE STRIKES. IT LETS THE CITY CLOSE BUSINESSES AFTER THREE COMPLAINTS. THE PARAMETERS ARE BROAD INCLUDING THINGS LIKE A POOR THEY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. I HOPE THE COUNCIL CAN CLOSE DISTANCE BETWEEN DOING WHAT'S LEGAL VERSUS DOING WHAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JANET FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE SINCE 1986. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH I WAS APPOINTED TO LAST SUMMER AS A BERNALILLO COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE. IT'S A 15-MEMBER BOARD WITH 11 MEMBERS FROM THE CITY AND FOUR FROM BERNALILLO COUNTY. UNFORTUNATELY, THE BOARD HAS REALLY NOT BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE FOR A COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE OF A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF VACANCIES. COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH SIX HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR WELL OVER A YEAR. I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS DISTRICT FOUR IS GOING TO BE NOMINATING AND SELECTING AN INDIVIDUAL. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD WANTS TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ABOUT OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM BECAUSE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT MEMBER OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE UNHOUSED POPULATION. ESPECIALLY THE PAT BACA CENTRAL UNSER LIBRARY AND THE INTERNATIONAL LIBRARY. THOSE PROVIDE WARM SPOT AND A COOL SPOT TO SPEND ALL DAY ALONG WITH PUBLIC RESTROOMS. AND THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD WANTS TO PROVIDE COMMENT, BOTH TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT ISSUES WITH SAFETY, SECURITY, THE MORAL OF STAFF MEMBERS WHO DEAL, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES DURING ANY PARTICULAR DAY WITH ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES. MY TIME IS UP. ALSO, JUST TO MENTION FEBRUARY 22 WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THE 50th ANVERSARY OF OUR DOWNTOWN MAIN LIBRARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY ANDREW. >> HI, GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A MEMBER OF THE HEALTH EQUITY COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE GIVING ME MORE TIME ON THE EMERGENCY AGREEMENT FOR THE ENDEAVORS EC318. ONE COMMENT I HAVE ABOUT THAT, I NOTICED THAT I WANTED TO REMARK ON SINCE THE LAST TIME I COMMENTED ON ENDEAVORS IS THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT SPECIFIES THAT THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE SHOULD BE ESSENTIALLY SECULAR. THE REASON I RAISE THIS IS BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN CONDUCTING SURVEYS WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE WITH OPIOIDS IN REGARD TO HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDS, FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT'S A NO-GO. SO, I FEEL IT SHOULD SAY THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE ARE SECULAR. I UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE AA OR NA COMING, BUT THOSE WOULD BE NOT SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING DIRECTLY. SO, I THINK THAT'S AN OKAY LANGUAGE CHANGE. ALSO, REMARKING ON O-24-63. I HAVE PERSONALLY WORKED WITH PEOPLE FROM QUIRKY BOOKS AND ALSO EAST CENTRAL MINISTRIES WHO RECENTLY HAVE BEEN TARGETED WITH ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THE CITY HOLD THEMSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARDS THEY'RE ASKING TO TO HOLD EVERYONE ELSE. WHERE YOU WANT TO CITE PEOPLE FOR WEED AND LITTER. LET'S SET OUR OWN PARKS AND PUT THEM INTO A FUND. SIMILARLY, I SEE MICE CRAWLING ALL THE TIME IN AND OUT OF THE FREEWAY AND UNDERPASSES. THE FIRE CODE. MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL ACCURATE IS THAT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER DOES NOT ACTUALLY PASS FIRE CODE INSPECTION. AND A LOT OF THE PARTS OF THIS ARE VAGUE. IT REFERENCES CRIME PREVENTION STANDARDS FROM THE MAYOR. THERE ARE OSHA CRIME PREVENTION STANDARDS I DON'T SEE BEING PRACTICED IN ALBUQUERQUE. MAYBE WE CAN HELP PROPERTY MANAGERS TO GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS THAT EXIST. INSTEAD OF MAKING UP NEW STANDARDS. IT TALKS ABOUT RELOCATING RESIDENTS THAT LIVE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF CRIME OR NUISANCE OF THE PROPERTY. I WOULD JUST ASK MOVE TO WHERE? $2,000 WOULD NOT MAKE ME HAPPY IF I HAD NO PLACE TO LIVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> CITY RELOCATION AGENCY THAT THESE RESIDENTS CONTACT IN ORDER TO GET ASSISTANCE WITH THE RELOCATION. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THEIR PHONE NUMBER. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> I WOULD ASK WHERE THIS AGENCY IS HOW AND HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM. THIS IS A NEW AGENCY CREATED AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE. >> IS THERE AN ANDREW IN ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE IN ZOOM. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS. WE'LL MOVE TO SARAH. THANK YOU. >> HELLO, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH. AND HAPPY LUNAR NEW YEAR. I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENT EXPRESSED REGARDING THE POINT AND TIME COUNT AND CONTINUED DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN SPECIFICALLY. IT'S HARD TO FIND PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH. AND SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCE. TONIGHT, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC COMMENT. I URGE YOU TO HONOR TWO MINUTE FOR COMMENT IN ALL THE MEETINGS THIS YEAR. IT'S NOT A REQUEST TO IT LAY OR DETER YOU FROM GETTING HOME EARLIER. I'M ASKING BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE HAVE TO LISTEN AND LURP -- LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. THIS ALLOWS US TO HELP US HEAR FROM OTHERS IN THE CITY AND BECOME MORE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS AND ISN'T WORKING IN ALBUQUERQUE. IF PUBLIC COMMENT NEEDS TO BE TRUNCATED I ASK FOR ALTERNATIVE SPACES FOR CONSTITUENTS TO REGULARLY ENGAGE FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OTHER. IT IS EXCITING TO WATCH THE PROGRESS OF THE PILOT PROCESS LEADING ALL CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT SIX. THE MEET AND GREETS ARE AVAILABLE. I LEARNED A LOT IN THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THE SAME SPACES IN MY DISTRICT AND OTHERS. SHORT OF THAT, I ASK THAT YOU CONSISTENTLY GIVE US ALL TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN VOICES ARE SILENCED AND DECISIONS ARE MADE WITHOUT INPUT, IT DOESN'T HELP TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY. AT THIS TIME, WHEN OUR COMMUNITY IS SCARED, WE REALLY NEED PLACES. AND WE NEED LEADERS WHO WILL BRING US TOGETHER. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS, CONSIDER THE SPACES, AND IT WILL HELP US TRUST ALL OF YOU AND FEEL LIKE OUR VOICES ARE TRULY REPRESENTED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM FOR APPROVALS. A IS EC-282 CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY. I MOVE APPROVAL. THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. EC-282. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS QUESTION IS FOR DR. SENGEL. IF A STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED TO REVIEW THE POLICY AND COMPARE IT TO R-89? >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN, I HAD A HARD TIME HEARING YOU. I HEARD THE TOPIC, BUT NOT -- >>COUN. GROUT: WAS A STAFF MEMBER ASSIGNED TO REVIEW THE POLICY AND COMPARE IT TO R-89? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE MADE REVIEWS BASED UPON THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, R-81 ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION TO OUTLINE EXPECTED STANDARDS OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND BEHAVIOR ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SECTION M OF THE 2022 POLICY GIVES THREE DIRECTIVES. KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL. CAN YOU EXPAND ON TIS -- THIS FOR US? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HOLD OUR EMPLOYEES TO A STANDARD RELATED TO COMMUNICATIONS WITHIN SOCIAL MEDIA. THE POLICY IS BROAD, BUT WITH EXPECTATION THAT DEPARTMENTS AND OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS IS WORKING WITH EVERY TIO TO DISCUSS WHAT PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATIONS SOUND LIKE. >>COUN. GROUT: IS PROFESSIONAL DEFINED ANYWHERE IN THE 22 POLICY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY DEFINED. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. ANOTHER BEHAVIOR IS CORRECT ERRORS. THIS DOESN'T SAY WHOSE ERRORS THE EMPLOYEES MAY CORRECT. IS IT THEIR OWN? >> OUR EXPECT IS THAT WE WOULD CORRECT ANY ERROR AND PROVIDE ACCURATE INFORMATION. WHETHER THAT IS AN EMPLOYEE'S INACCURACY OR ANYTHING WRITTEN THAT IS UNFACTUAL. >>COUN. GROUT: IF THE EMPLOYEES MAY CORRECT THE ERRORS OF OTHERS, DOES THE POLICY DIRECT EMPLOYEES TO CITE SOURCES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY DIRECT THAT WITHIN THE POLICY. WE OFTEN DO MAKE SURE THAT WE, IF IT IS AN AI, ORDINANCE, OR SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC, WE WILL USE THAT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: DOES THE POLICY DEFINE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FACT AND OPINION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, NO IT DOES NOT. >>COUN. GROUT: R-89 ALSO ASKS FOR PROHIBITTION ON PERSONAL ATTACKS. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE IN THIS POLICY PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE PROHIBITED SOME. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE BELIEVE THAT PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION REQUIRES IT NOT BE PERSONAL ATTACKS. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. CITY EMPLOYEES NEED TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE TRUSTED ON A POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE THEY LEAVE THE PERSONAL ATTACKS OUT OF THEIR COMMUNICATION. GOOD POLICY CAN CLEARLY DEFINE AND TEACH THIS COP -- CONCEPT. I DON'T THINK THE POLICY DOES THAT. WHO MONITORS AND REVIEWS THE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS TO MAKE SURE THEY ALIGN WITH CITY POLICIES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS ARE MONITORED AND REVIEWED BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS STAFF AS WELL AS WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT REPORT TO OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR DEPENDING ON THE DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE SUPERVISED BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS. INCLUDING THEIR POSTS. >>COUN. GROUT: BEFORE ANY POST GOES OUT IT GOES TO THE COMMUNICATION STAFF? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, EVERY POST IS VETTED IN EITHER A PLAN FOR THE WEEK OR THROUGH INDIVIDUAL POSTING AT THE TIME. WITH ANOTHER SET OF EYES, WHETHER THAT'S WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OR COMMUNICATIONS STAFF. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. GOOD FAITH IS DEFINED AS HONESTLY, DO YOU HAVE THIS WAS REVIEWED IN GOOD FAITH? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I DO. I THINK WE TOOK THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL AND REVIEWED THAT POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE THINK ABOUT THE ISSUES RAISED AT THE DISCUSSION. WE LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT WE START OUT THE POLICY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISCIPLINARY ACTION AS WELL AS IN THE STANDARDS. OUR TEAM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT WE WORK WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THAT POLICY AND THAT THE POLICY ENSURES THAT WE ARE SUPERVISING OUR STAFF APPROPRIATELY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES WITH THEM BASED UPON THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT EC-25-282 IS FAIR AND HONEST? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'M GUESSING YOU'RE ASKING MY OPINION? I BELIEVE -- WHAT THREE WORDS? >>COUN. GROUT: IS IT UNPRETENTIOUS, FAIR AND HONEST? >> I BELIEVE IT'S VERY DIRECT COMMUNICATION THAT ALLOWS AND EN -- MADAM PRESIDENT, IF VERY CLEARLY COMMUNICATED WE HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE THAT WE UTILIZE THAT IS PUBLICLY POSTED. IT IS ABSOLUTELY AN HONEST EC AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CLEAR COMMUNICATION THAT IT IS NOT A HIDDEN POLICY. AND WE USE THAT POLICY TO GUIDE THE WORK THAT WE DO. >>COUN. GROUT: YOU DID NOT MAKE ONE CHANGE TO THE POLICY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE DID NOT MAKE CHANGES AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WAS SAYING THE SAME THING. GOING THROUGH WHAT WE ASKED FOR AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICIES, I JUST WANT TO ASK MS. RONQUILO TO TELL US ABOUT WHAT WE LOOKED AT VERSUS WHAT'S MISSING. WHAT WHAT WAS MISSING? >> I DID DO AN ANALYSIS COMPARING THE EXISTING 2022 POLICY TO WHAT WAS REQUESTED IN R-89. JUST TO TOUCH ON THE MISSING COMPONENTS YOU'RE WANTING ME TO HIGHLIGHT, THERE'S A HANDFUL. FIRST, THERE'S NO EXPLICIT PROHIBITION ON PERSONAL ATTACKS, ARGUE WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, OR OTHERWISE POSTING IN AN MANNER THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL OR COULD ERODE TRUST IN THE CITY. THAT'S A QUOTE FROM R-89. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR MONITORING OR REVIEW OF THE ACTUAL CONTENT OF CITY ACCOUNTS FOR COMPLIANCE OF THE POLICY CONTAINED IN THE 2022 POLICY. THE 2022 POLICY DID NOT INCLUDE STRATEGIES FOR REBUILDING TRUST OR ISSUING APOLOGIES. IT DID NOT MENTION REVOKING SOCIAL MEDIA ACCESS, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN R-89. IT DOES NOT SET A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY REVIEW OR SCHEDULE FOR FUTURE REVIEWS. AND INITIALLY NOTED THAT IT WAS NOT POSTED ON THE TRANSPARENCY WEBSITE, BUT I CHECKED AND THERE'S A LINK ON THE WEBSITE THAT TAKES YOU TO THE 2022 POLICY. HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, NOT A MECHANISM FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK OR REPORT VIOLATIONS OF THE POLICY ON THE TRANSPARENCY PAGE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM PRESIDENT, FOR ME WHAT WE RECEIVED IN THIS EC DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT WE ASKED FOR. SO, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT AS A NEW PERSON? DO WE JUST VOTE ABOUT WHAT THAT IS? >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE MOTION IS FOR AN APPROVAL. IF YOU DON'T APPROE, VOTE NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: BESIDES THAT, IF WE VOTE NO THAT MEANS THE ADMINISTRATION CAN STILL STAND. >>COUN. BASSAN: IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S WILL TO PASS THIS APPROVAL AND MOTION, THEN THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL WILL BE VOTING FOR THAT AND THIS WILL BE PASSED. IF THE COUNCIL MAJORITY VOTES IN THE NEGATIVE, THEN IT WILL NOT PASS AND THIS EC IS NOT ACCEPTED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCILORS? THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE LISA TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BASSAN: HERE SHE COMES. >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET INFORMATION. >> A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY FOR GOVERNMENT OR ENTITY SHOULD BE FOR POSTING ALWAYS. I HIGHLY SUGGEST AND RECOMMEND THAT WHATEVER YOU ALL IN THE CITY END UP DOING, IT'S JUST A POSTING TIME. NOT ALLOWING RESPONSE BACK. WHEREAS, I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVOKE THE CITY OFFICIAL WHO WAS POSTING FOR THE CITY, IT WAS REALLY NOT THE REPRESENTATION FOR OUR CITY. I THINK THE SOCIAL MEDIA REPRESENTS OUR CITY'S IMAGE OF HOW WE LOOK TO THE COUNTRY AND TO THE WORLD. SO, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS SO EASILY PROVOKED THEY START PUTTING IN PERSONAL OPINION AND START ATTACKING CONSTITUENTS, IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR US. WE CAN DO BETTER. WHOEVER IS GIVEN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COMMUNICATING TO CITIZENS, THAT'S SACRED TRUST AS I BELIEVE IT WAS MENTIONED. WE NEED ACCURATE INFO. IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHEN A LOT OF FEAR IS GOING TO BE PERPETRATED AND A LOT OF MISINFORMATION WE HAVE, RIGHT NOT EVERYBODY IS TECHNICALLY SAVVY. MY MOM ALMOST SCAMMED. WE NEED MORE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND A CLEARER FRAMEWORK. PLEASE. I AM SPEAKING AS ONE WHO WAS PART OF THE GROUP THAT WOULD ANNING ITINIZE HIM. I I ADMIT THAT. I'M NOT SORRY. I REALLY RECOMMEND A POSTING ONLY. INFORMATION, WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO KNOW, POLICE ACTION IS HERE, BLOCKED STREET OVER HERE. SEWER NOT WORKING HERE. JUST GIVE INFORMATION, NONE OF THE BACK AND FORTH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE EC-282. I SEE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> THAT FAILS ON A 2-7 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM B. EC-285 REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL PROVAL FOR PUBLIC CONSULTING GROUP EMERGENCY SERVICE AGREEMENT. I MOVE APPROVAL. HANG ON ONE SECOND. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THAT THE ONE -- >>COUN. BASSAN: NO, MA'AM. THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EC-285 IS REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR PUBLIC CONSSULTING GROUP. I MOVE PROVAL. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> NO, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. MS. BROCAW, IN YOUR STAFF WRITE UP THERE WERE SEVEN QUESTIONS AT THE TIME THAT REMAINED UNANSWERED. DID YOU RECEIVE ANSWERS TO THEM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, NO. THESE WERE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ ASKED IN THE FGO MEETING IF HE WANTED TO. NO, WE DID NOT GET ANY ANSWERS. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. THE ADMINISTRATION WAS MADE AWARE OF THESE QUESTIONS? AT LEAST IN FGO? OR THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. >> I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ DID WANT TO KNOW ABOUT LIABILITY. HAVING TO DO WITH THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. I'M GOING TO THEN, SINCE THIS IS NOTING SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED ACTIVELY IN FGO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID HAVE ANSWERS IF THEY WERE ASKED. I WILL DISCARD OF THIS AT THIS TIME. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. DO YOU WANT TO REVIEW THAT AND I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR ROGERS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: GO TO COUNCILOR ROGERS AND I'LL REVIEW FOR A SECOND. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAD A QUESTION ON IF AFR IS GOING TO START BILLING MEDICAID. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, I SEE CHIEF JARAMILLO HERE. GOOD EVENING, CHIEF. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS. WE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY DO BILL MEDICAID. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE REIMBURSED THROUGH THE STATE. WE DO NOT GET REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THIS CONTRACT WILL HELP US RECOUP FUNDS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ARE BASICALLY THE PROCUREMENT METHOD WAS TO PIGGY BACK OFF OF GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS ABOUT CONTRACTS ATTACHED TO LEGISLATION BASED ON CONTRACTED EXECUTED FOR THE COUNTY OF SANDOVAL. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH CONTRACT WE'RE USING FOR THIS PURCHASE? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ON PART FROM HOW OUR FISCAL COMMUNICATED THE PACKET FORWARD. IT IS CLASSIFIED AS OTHER GOVERNMENT CONTRACT. WE'RE PIGGY BACKING OFF THE SANDOVAL CONTRACT. THERE'S SEVEN MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE AND WE PIGGY BACK OFF SANDOVAL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT? ISN'T JUST ONE CONTRACT THAT YOU CAN -- HOW DETERMINE THERE'S NOT CONFUSION BETWEEN BOTH AND ARE THEY EXACTLY THE SAME FOR BOTH? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS. I WANT TO START WITH THAT. THE DECISION TO PIGGY BACK WAS OFF THE DIRECTION OF OUR BUYERS. SANDOVAL HAD THE MOST RECENT CONTRACTS. SO, WE WORKED OFF OF THAT CONTRACT. I'M NOT SURE WHY THE OTHER CONTRACTS WEREN'T CONSIDERED. I JUST KNOW AT THAT TIME WE STARTED ON THIS THAT THEY WERE IDENTIFIED AS THE ONE THAT WAS THE MOST RECENT THAT HAD THE APPROVAL THROUGH THE STATE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE CONCERN IS THE CONTRACTS ARE PROBABLY DIFFERENT IN SOME ASPECTS. ESPECIALLY, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT THIS INTO QUESTION. I DIDN'T REALLY HEAR THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION THEN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, CAN YOU MAYBE REPHRASE IT SO THAT I CAN ANSWER IT CORRECTLY? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES, RIGHT? TWO DIFFERENT LOCATION. YOU HAVE SANDOVAL AND THEN YOU HAVE, WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? SANDOVAL PIGGY BACKING OFF OF VALENCIA COUNTY CONTRACT. SO, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY TELL THE CONTRACT IS VIABLE WHEN YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. >> VALENCIA COUNTY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THERE. WE WORKED OFF ONE ENTITY IN THE SANDOVAL CONTRACT. OBVIOUSLY, WE WORKED THROUGH PURCHASING ON THIS. THIS WAS A PRETTY COMPLICATED PROCESS WITH PURCHASING. I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE DETAILS RELATED TO HOW PIGGY PACKING WORKS. I DON'T HAPPEN IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WE BIGGY BACKED OFF OF SANDOVAL. IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: COUNCIL STAFF, CAN YOU HELP WITH THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THESE QUESTIONS THAT ARE LISTED ON HERE, SOME OF THEM WERE ASKED AT FGO. ALL OF THESE ARE PROVIDED TO THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED THE WRITE UPS. THE WRITE UPS WERE SENT ON FRIDAY ABOUT 4 O'CLOCK, MAYBE LATER. THEY HAVE BEEN SENT. I DON'T HAPPEN WHICH HAVE BEEN ANSWERED I DON'T KNOW WHICH HAVE BEEN ANSWERED. IF THE COUNCIL WISH TO DEFER, THEY CAN DEFER. OR IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE ANSWERS, THEY CAN PASS THE EC. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ -- THANK YOU DIRECTOR FOR THE EXPLANATION. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS ANYBODY FROM THE COUNCIL STAFF SIDE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ELABORATE ON COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S QUESTION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST THAT IT WAS AN ERROR THAT THEY WROTE VALENCIA GOVERNMENT CONTRACT IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT. AND THEY'RE JUST PIGGY BACKING OFF SANDOVAL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. HAS PURCHAING REVIEWED THE TRANSACTIONS THAT THIS IS AN AUTHORIZED PROCUREMENT. IE, THE CITY AND RECEIVING THE SAME SCOPE AND PRICES? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS WITH PURCHASE. PART OF THE REASON THAT'S TAKEN SO LONG IS IT DID GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND COUNCIL STAFF -- >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YES, WE WANTED AFR TO CONFIRM THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY CYBERLIABILITY COVERAGE IF CITY DATA IS -- WHAT ABOUT COVERAGE FOR INCORRECTLY FILLING OUT FOR MEDICAID? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THAT'S THE FIRST THAT I'VE HEARD THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. I AM NOT ABLE TO GET INTO THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER. >>COUN. BASSAN: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT MS. BROCAW. >> I DO NOT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I'M SORRY. MS. KEEFE. >> THERE IS AN INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE IN THIS CONTRACT. AS THERE IS IN ALMOST ANY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT THE COMPANY HAVE A LIABILITY POLICY. I CAN'T SAY WHAT THAT LIABILITY POLICY WOULD COVER. BUT WE'RE GENERALLY INDEMNIFIED FOR ANY ACTS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: QUESTION TO THAT, DO YOU ACTUALLY MAKE SURE, SINCE I'M AN INSURANCE GUY, DO YOU ACTUALLY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE IN REFERENCE TO THAT POLICY? THAT INSURANCE POLICY. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND THE CONTRACT REVIEW IS HANDLED BY RISK MANAGEMENT TO DETERMINE WHICH INSURANCE THAT A VENDOR MAY NEED WILL VARY FROM CONTRACT TO CONTRACT AND THAT IS DETERMINED BY RISK MANAGEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: DO YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF PROCESS IN PLACE THROUGH RISK MANAGEMENT THAT DETERMINES THAT BREAKDOWN AND WHAT KIND OF POLICY IS NEEDED? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, RISK MANAGEMENT HAS THAT PROCESS. SOMETIMES I'M IN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT COVERAGE IS NEEDED. IT'S A PROCESS THEY HANDLE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. WILL THE VENDOR BE HANDLING CITY MONEY? IF SO, THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL INSURANCE COVERAGE REQUIRED. I THINK WE DID THAT. HAVE CITY LEGAL REVIEWED THE AGREEMENT? >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YES. CITY LEGAL REVIEWED THE AGREEMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. OUR STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT IN GENERAL $1.2 MILLION OF THE REVENUE GENERATED IS ALLOCATED DIRECTLY TO AFR'S BUDGET FOR EMS SERVICE AS WELL AS ANY AMOUNT EXCEED $1.7 MILLION IS DIRECTED TO GENERAL FUND WITH THIS CONTRACT WITH EPCG THE MEDICARE TRANSPORTS WILL GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I DO NOT HAVE THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER. WHERE THE REVENUE WOULD GO. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THE $1.2 MILLION IN REVENUE AND WHERE IT WOULD GO? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ANY REVENUES BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE CONTRACT WOULD GO TO GENERAL FUND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. COUNCIL STAFF, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCILORS? THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF EC-285. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE ON TO FINAL ACTIONS ON THE AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM A IS O-63. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-63 IS REPEALING CHAPTER 11 ARTICLE ONE RELATED TO THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT AND REPLACING IT WITH A NEW NUISANCE ABATEMENT. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR ROGERS ON O-63. MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THIS I HAVE OFFERED BY REQUEST AND ASK MR. COX FROM COUNCIL STAFF TO GO OVER IT, HIGHLIGHTS, OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. COX. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, O63 IS REPEALING THE ORDINANCE AND REPLACING IT IN WHOLE. SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES YOU'LL SEE IS A CHANGE IN THE FEE STRUCTURE. REMOVING THE EXISTING TIERED SYSTEM THAT WAS 200 TO 350 AND EVENTUALLY $500 ON THE THIRD NOTIFICATION. GIVING CODE ENFORCEMENT 90 DAYS OF A BUFFER OF WHEN THEY HAVE TO REMEDIATE THAT NUISANCE. THE NEW ORDINANCE WOULD GO TO A ONE-TIME NOTIFICATION, TO MAXIMUM PAYMENT OF $500. THE OTHER LARGE CHANGES ARE THAT IT CLARIFIES ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT THIS CAN COVER. WEED AND LITTER, NOISE ORDINANCE, ANYTHING DEALING WITH OUR ANIMAL OR MISTREATMENT OF ANIMALS ORDINANCE. AND IT REALLY CLARIFIES WHAT THIS COVERS. ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA. I DON'T HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE, BUT ONE OF THE LARGER CHANGES IS THAT IT REMOVES TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER PROVISION WHICH IS A HUGE CHUNK OF THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU'LL SEE NOT THERE FROM THE EXISTING ONE RIGHT NOW. THE REASON FOR THAT DELETION IS THAT IS COVERED BY STATE STATUTE. THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING PROCESS THAT SUPERSEDES THAT ISSUE. THE OTHER PART -- APOLOGIES. IT ALSO ENSURES WE CAN'T SUSPEND BUSINESS LICENSES, WHICH YOU DID APPROVE EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE NEW FORMAT OF BUSINESS LICENSE. THIS ORDINANCE CLARIFIES WE'RE ABLE TO HALT A BUSINESS, ACTUALLY CONDUCTING BUSINESS, UNTIL THEY REMEDIATE WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT IS PUT UPON THEM. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. COX. FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, MS. KEEFE, COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHY THE ADMINISTRATION THINKS IT WILL HELP? >> YES. WE DID INITIATE A NEW -- TWO YEARS AGO NOW. THERE'S A HEARING BEFORE A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE IN ALBUQUERQUE. DURING THAT HEARING, HE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND THE VAGUENESS OF SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY. WHETHER IT PROVIDED SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT DOES AND DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE. CITY LEGAL BEGAN WORKING ON CHANGES TO CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE AND TIGHTEN THAT UP AND PROVIDE BETTER NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC. SO, TO ME, I THINK MR. COX DID HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY CHANGES. SOME OF THE OTHER ONES IS WE AMENDED A DEFINITION OF PUBLIC NUISANCE. THE PRIOR DEFINITION HAD A VERY LONG LIST OF CRIMES. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT REFERENCED IT REQUIRES THREE CRIMINAL ACTS. THE CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS NO LIMIT. IT CAN BE ONE UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A RESTRICTION ON THE CITY THAT GIVES PROPERTY OWNERS MORE CONTROL BEFORE THE CITY CAN TAKE ANY KIND OF ACTION. I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS IT ADDS LANGUAGE THAT YOU FIND IN THE COMMON LAW, WHICH IS A NUISANCE EXISTS WHEN THERE ARE ACTIVITIES THAT ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, WELFARE, AND SAFETY. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE'S CRIMINAL ACTIVITY VIOLATION OF ORDINANCES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THERE HAS TO BE THE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT DETERMINATION THAT THE ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE IS A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR PUBLIC WELFARE WITHIN THE CITY. WE ADDED THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE CLEAR ONLY UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD ACTIVITIES BE IDENTIFIED AS A NUISANCE. IN ADDITION, AT THE REQUEST OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE ADDED A PROCEEDING WHERE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO TO DISTRICT COURT OVER TIME THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT'S A NUISANCE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS WITH THE INDEPENDENT HEARING OFFICE. WE HAVE FOUND THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE IT GIVES PROPERTY OWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE ISSUES BEFORE THE HEARING. IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO PULL TOGETHER ALL THE EVIDENCE AND PRESENT IT EVER GO TO COURT TO LET THE PROPERTY OWNER WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS. IT CREATES A RECORD SO IF WE DO GO TO THE DISTRICT COURT THERE'S A FULL RECORD THAT THERE CITY ALREADY PRESENTED TO THE COURT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL KNOW THE CITY'S STANCE. IT CREATES A MORE STRUCTURED PROCESS FOR THE OWNER AND THE COURT. IT ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH COURT THROUGH THIS ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. WE ORGANIZED THE SECTION OF CIVIL PENALTIES. A LOT OF THESE EXISTED BEFORE, BUT WE PUT THEM INTO THE DIFFERENT ORDER FROM THE LESSER TO THE MORE ONEROUS. WE ELIMINATED A LOT OF DETAIL WITHIN THE ORDINANCE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN WE GO TO DISTRICT COURT BECAUSE THERE'S RULES IN COURT THAT TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT ASK FOR IN COURT. THERE'S NO NEED FOR THE ORDINANCE TO DUPLICATE THE RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE. WE CAN GO AFTER RESTRAINING ORDER AND OTHER REMEDIES. THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR THE ORDINANCE TO SPELL OUT. THERE'S PARTS WE DID NOT TOUCH AT ALL. THIS IS A VERY LENGTHY ORDINANCE. THERE'S PARTS WE DIDN'T TOUCH AT ALL. THE SECTION ON RELOCATION, WHICH SOMEBODY MENTIONED IS UNCHANGED. THE SECTION ON DRUG LABS IS UNCHANGED. AND THE SECTION ON DRUG-FREE ZONE SUN CHANGED. THOSE ARE THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM CITY LEGAL'S VIEWPOINT WHICH ADDRESSES THE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT THE ORDINANCE DID NOT PROVIDE SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE -- WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL, INCLUDING HEARING OUR COMMENTS. HONESTLY, I'M GOING TO ASK TO DEFER THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND BRING THIS BACK IN 30 DAYS. MARCH 3rd. >>COUN. BASSAN: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION NOW? IF YOU MAKE A MOTION NOW, THAT ENDS DISCUSSION. >>COUN. GROUT: WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS LISA FOLLOWED BY JEFFREY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILORS. THE BILL SAYS THAT IT'S REPEALING CHAPTER 11 SECTION ONE AND TWO IN ENTIRETY. I WAS NOT ABLE TO LOCATE AND FIND THE PREVIOUS COPY TO COMPARE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY COULD PUT UP SO WE HAVE ASSURANCES THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO. IT'S PART OF MY JOB TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND ASK YOU QUESTIONS. WHERE DO I FIND A COPY OF THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE TO COMPARE? AS TO THE INDEPENDENTNESS OF HEARING OFFICER AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD MULTIPLE PUBLIC NUISANCE TICKETS, I PREFER MY CHANCES BEFORE A JUDGE THAN SOMEBODY WHO IS HIRED. BECAUSE IS IT INDEPENDENT IF THEY GET THEIR WORK FOR THE CITY, THEY WORK FOR THE CITY, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE MY TICKET DECIDED BY SOMEONE WHO WORKS UNDER MAYOR KELLER. I'M ALWAYS SKEPTICAL AND WARY WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS WRITE BILLS MAKING HUMAN BEHAVIOR CRIMINAL. I READ THIS ORDINANCE, I WAS SO INTRIGUED I TEXTED TWO FRIENDS. I WAS LIKE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS. ONE FRIEND TEXTED BACK. THEY NOTED EXCHANGED DRUGS FOR RENT WAS NOT ALLOWED. WAS IT ALLOWED BEFORE? I WOULD LIKE TO FORGET THE VOUCHER SYSTEM. I LIKE BARDER WITH WEED AND HOUSING WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE. ACTUALLY, I'M NOT. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS COMMON LAW, THE STATE LAW DEFINES NUISANCE IN CHAPTER 30 ARTICLE 8, PUBLIC NUISANCE IS KNOWINGLY CREATING, PERFORMING OR MAINTAINING ANYTHING WITHOUT LAWFUL AUTHORITY. IN O-63 IT SAYS PUBLIC NUISANCE IS ANY ACTS OR EMISSIONS THAT ADVERSELY IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH WELFARE OR SAFETY. I COULD BE A PUBLIC NUISANCE MAKING NOISE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. >> JEFFREY FOLLOWED BY ALEXIS. ALEXIS FOLLOWED BY ITSKE. ITSKE FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM. >> I LIVE IN HIGHLANDS. I HAVE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PLIGHT IN THIS CITY. I DON'T THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE THAT. FIRST OFF, IT DEFINES PUBLIC NUISANCE OF ONE OR MORE ISSUES WITH CITY ORDINANCE LIKE NOISE OR FIRE CODES OR ANY ACTS OR EMISSIONS DEEMED PUBLIC NUISANCE UNDER PUBLIC LAW. STATE OF NEW MEXICO IS ANYTHING JURIES TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR MORAL WELFARE. THE DEFT MUST EVICT AND MOVE ANY PERSONS WHO COMMITTED THE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INCLUDING THE DEFENDANT HIMSELF, THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS AND RELATIVES. THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE YOU OR YOUR HOUSE CAN CALL COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOU AND GET YOU EVICTED. IT SEEMS THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW THE CITY TO SHUT DOWN ANYTHING IT DOESN'T LIKE AT ANY TIME. THIS IS AN INSANE AMOUNT OF POWER TO GIVE ANYONE. THIS POWER WILL BE LEVERAGED FOR POLITICALLY MOTIVATED THINGS. I URGE YOU NOT TO SUPPORT THIS. >> WILLIAM FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND HOMEOWNER IN ALBUQUERQUE. I DID READ THE BILL. THERE ARE PARTS I LIKE. I THINK IT'S OVERSHADOWED BY THE PARTS THAT ARE BAD. THIS BILL DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS ROOT CAUSE OF HOMELESSINIZE IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT JUST FURTHER CRIMINALIZES IT AND ALLOWS THE CITY TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD WHILE FINING US. IT ALLOWS HOA TO HARASS MEMBERS. IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO TARGET BUSINESSES THEY DON'T LIKE. PROVISIONS IN THIS BILL TO STOP THIS, BUT THE ONUS IS ON THE PERSON BEING -- CAUSING LARGE LEGAL FEES AND STRESS. THIS BILL WILL GIVE THE CITY A DANGEROUS AMOUNT OF POWER GIVEN HOW BROAD AND EXPLOITABLE THE TERMS ARE. THIS IS UNJUST AND INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE ALBUQUERQUE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. I YIELD ANY ADDITIONAL TIME. >> TAD FOLLOWED BY ELEN ON ZOOM. >> THANK YOU. AGAIN, WELL, CENTRAL AVENUE. SAN MATEO ALL THE WAY TO SAN PEDRO. ON THE NORTH SIDE. ALMOST ALL BUILDINGS ARE BOARDED. THAT IS COUNCILOR ROGERS DISTRICT. SAN MATEO. ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE ABANDONED. WELL, NOW ACROSS THE STREET ONLY CAR WASH. THEN K-MART. NOT K-MART. CIRCLE K. WALGREEN'S. THAT IS THE PICTURE OF COUNCILOR ROGERS NEIGHBORHOOD. WHO IS CREATING -- THESE CRIMINALS DON'T GO -- DON'T ALLOW SETTING FIRES. WHY THIS CITY CREATING THE NUISANCE? SO THEY CAN PROFIT. ZONING DEPARTMENT. ALL OF THIS ZONING ORDINANCE. AND YOU ALL, YES, I DON'T HAVE TIME ANYMORE. >> IS THERE AN OWEN IN ZOOM? PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND UP IF YOU'RE IN ZOOM. FRIENDLY REMINDER, IF YOU CAN KEEP THE CAMERAS OFF AND STAY MUTED UNTIL YOUR TIME IS UP. WE'LL GO TO SHIRLEY. FOLLOWED BY LEE. >> HELLO. I'M HERE FROM DISTRICT FOUR. I AM HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ORDINANCE O-24-63. THERE ARE SEVERAL MAJOR ISSUES. ONE OF THEM IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ENFORCEMENT OPTION. IN WHICH THE HEARING OFFICER WILL BE APPOINTED BY AND DEPENDENT BY THE MAYOR WHICH WILL MAKE THEM NOT IMPARTIAL. THIS GIVES DUE PROCESS MEETINGS BEFORE THE DISTRICT COURT, MAKING IT EASIER AND FASTER TO SHUT DOWN SMALL BUSINESSES OR PROPERTY BEING TARGETED. NO ONE CITY OFFICIAL SHOULD HAVE THIS MUCH POWER TO SHUT DOWN BUSINESSES AND HOMES. SECOND MAJOR ISSUE IS THAT THE THRESHOLD FOR SHUTTING DOWN OR FINING PROPERTY IS THREE VIOLATIONS. IN THE LANGUAGE, IT'S FAR TOO BROAD AND VAGUE AND INCLUDES CRIMES WHERE THE TENANT WAS VICTIMS. THIS HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF BEING MISUSED AND WEAPONIZED AGAINST VULNERABLE GROUPS. I LEARNED ABOUT THIS FROM QUIRKY BOOKS WHOSE APPEARING WAS POSTPONED WITH NO REASON GIVEN. THIS IS CREATED TO PENALIZE THEM FOR COMPASSION. THE LAST THING THE COUNCIL SHOULD DO IS CREATING LAWS DESIGNED TO ATTACK ONE OF THE BELOVED COMMUNITY BOOK STORES. PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU. LEE FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. >> GREAT. EVERYBODY ELSE MADE VALID POINTS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE. THE NEWFOUND POWERS IT GIVES THE CITY AND THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE IT GIVES FOR HOA AND ANYBODY WHO REALLY WANTS TO DO THAT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BRIEF HYPOTHETICAL. LET'S SAY I'M A PERSON WHO IS EVIL. AND WANTS TO PUT HOMELESS PEOPLE IN JAIL. WHAT WOULD I DO? I THINK FIRST I WOULD START BY CRIMINALIZING MANY ASPECTS OF THEIR LIVES. THEY NEED SHOPPING CARTS. I WOULD FINE THEM AND PUT THEM IN JAIL FOR THAT. I WOULD KICK THEM OUT OF PARKS AND NOT FUND SHELTERS. I WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT. AND I PROBABLY DO THIS. PROBABLY DISCOURAGE BUSINESSES FROM ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BE ON THEIR GROUNDS AND ENCOURAGE THEM, IT SEEMS, TO KICK THEM OUT AND PUT THEM IN HARM'S WAY. AND IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE MAYBE NOT PROTECTED BY A BUSINESS OWNER WHO DOESN'T WANT TO REPORT THEM. THAT'S IT. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY PAULA. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATE TO THE DEFINITIONS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CONTAINED WITHIN IT. THE OLD ORDINANCE, 11-1-1-10-V7, A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHALL NOT BE IDENTIFIED OR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION. VERSUS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IN SECTION 11-1-1-6C, NO PERSON SHALL BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE IF THE NUISANCE DOESINATION IS BASED SOLELY ON VIOLATIONS OF THE FOLLOWING, AND THE INDIVIDUAL IS DETERMINED TO BE THE VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE HAVE FIVE ENUMIATED CATEGORIES FOR FIVE CRIMES LISTED. IF YOU'RE THE VICTIM OF ONE OF THESE FIVE CRIMES, YOU CAN AVOID ENFORCEMENT. IF YOU'RE THE VICTIM OF SOME OTHER CRIME, IF YOU TO CALL POLICE THREE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS, YOU'RE POTENTIALLY SUBJECT TO ACTION UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. SPECIFICALLY, THE CRIMES THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED HERE THAT CONCERN ME ARE VIOLATIONS OF RESTRAINING ORDER AND STALKING. STALKING REQUIRES REPETITION. THEY'RE OFTEN AN ONRAMP TO STALKING. IT'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE LETHALITY INDICATOR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MOST VULNERABLE CLASS OF SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE FACED WITH THE OPTION OF POTENTIALLY FACING RETALIATORY ACTION ON BEHALF OF A LANDLORD AT THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS OR WHERE THEY LIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO REPEATEDLY CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO REPORT CRIMES. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS ADEQUATELY COVERS -- WE USED TO HAVE AN OLD VERSION A CATCH-ALL FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. NOW WE DO NOT HAVE THAT. I'M VERY CONCERNED. THANK YOU. >> PAULA FOLLOWED BY MARGARET. >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> OKAY. AS IT STANDS, MY OBJECTIONS TO THIS ORD INDEPENDENCE ARE THAT IT IS VERY BROAD AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS A BUSINESS OR APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT WOULD STAY OPEN FOR MORE THAN A WEEK. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE NARROWED DOWN. GIVEN THAT POWER AND REMOVING THE DUE PROCESS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE, IN TERMS OF GOING THROUGH COURTS, THAT AMOUNT OF POWER IS CONCERNING THAT POWER WILL DO WHAT POWER DOES. IF EVERY BUSINESS AND APARTMENT COMPLEX IN ALBUQUERQUE WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS -- WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TARGETED? ALSO, OTHERS HAVE SAID MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I'LL BE ABLE TO. THIS DOES SEEM LIKE IT WILL PENALIZE VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME MORE THAN IT WILL DO ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. THANK YOU. >> MARGARET FOLLOWED BY GENEVA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED BY THIS ORDINANCE. THOUGH I'M CERTAIN THIS IS NOT THE INTENTION, AND I HAVE NOT READ EVERYTHING ON IT. AS WRITTEN, IT LEAVES THE DOOR WIDE OPEN FOR BAD ACTORS AND MISUSE. FIRST, ALBUQUERQUE HAS A HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM, AND THIS PROBLEM WILL NOT BE SOLVED BY STREAMLINING THE CLOSE OF RESIDENCES, PRIVATE HOMES, AND APARTMENTS FOR PETTY VIOLATIONS. $2,000 IN THIS DAY AND AGE IS NOT ENOUGH TO RELOCATE, NOR SHOULD IT COME OUT OF THE CITY BUDGET FOR NOISE COMPLAINTS, LITTER AND BROKEN WINDOW. SECOND OF ALL, SMALL BUSINESSES ALREADY STRUGGLE AND THIS ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE A WAY FOR BUSINESS RIVALS TO CLOSE DOWN COMPETITORS BY REPORTING OR COMMITTING MINOR VANDALLISM. THE ORDINANCE COULD BE USED TO INCENTIVIZE VANDALISM, WASTE THE TIME OF APD, COST THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WITH RELOCATION FEES AND SWELL THE NUMBER OF UP -- UNHOUSED PERSON. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO GIVE ONE PERSON SELECTED BY THE MAYOR THE POWER TO DECIDE WHETHER PEOPLE KEEP THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> GENEVA FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> JUST A QUICK SOUND CHECK. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> COOL. I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE ON THE BASIS THAT SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE ECHOED THAT HAD HAS THE EXTREME POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE. THIS ORDINANCE'S VERY OWN DEFINITION, THIS COUNCIL COULD BE A NUISANCE BY REPEATED PUSHING OF LEGISLATURE THAT ACTIVELY HARMS OUTCOMES FOR UNMELTERED PEOPLE WHO I CONSIDER TO BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. SO, I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO DO A GOOD THING, BUT THIS IS NOT AN IT. THIS IS NOT THE SOLUTION. I MAINTAIN THAT HOUSING FIRST AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE PROPOSED AT THESE MEETINGS IS IN FACT THE FIRST STEP TO HELPING PEOPLE GET THEIR SITUATIONS TOGETHER. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. IF JANIS IS ON THE CALL, I CEDE MY TIME TO THEM. IF NOT, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> SARAH. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE DEFERRED. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE O-63. IT'S ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO CAUSE HARM NOT ONLY WITH PEOPLE WITH NO HOMES BUT WILL HARM LOCAL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS AND COMMUNITIES AS A WHOLE. THIS WILL CREATE A LEGAL PLATFORM THAT PUTS BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS. MS. KEEFE'S DEFINITION, THIS THREATENS PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELFARE. THE CITY PRACTICES, AND COUNCIL LEGISLATION HAS RESULTED PEOPLE FORCED INTO THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S NO BUDGET SURPLUS TO SUPPORT THEM. NONPROFITS ARE FILLING THE GAPS TO -- CLOTHE AND FEED PEOPLE. ORGANIZATIONS AND YOUTH GROUPS WILL DO THE SAME THING. BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS STEP UP TO OFFER ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO BREAK THIS PAINFUL CYCLE, THE CITY THREATENS THEM WITH ZONE VIOLATION, PETTY FINES, LEGAL ACTION AND CLOSURE. THE CITY HAS CREATED THIS CRISIS AND MADE NO LONG-TERM PLAN TO RESOLVE IT. WE CANNOT JAIL, FINE, OR PUNISH OUR WAY INTO HOUSING FOR ALL. WE CAN INSTEAD REDIRECT RESOURCES FROM SOLID WASTE TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND AGENCIES WILLING TO HOST SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. INCENTIVES PROVIDE FENCING FOR BOUNDARIES, PAY FOR INSURANCE FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. COUNSEL POLICY SHOULD REFLECT WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY RATHER THAN WORKING TO HARM US. I URGE YOU TO OPPOSE O-63 AND WORK TOWARD REAL SOLUTIONS TO THE HOUSING CRISIS. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT ON O-63. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. WE'RE ON O-63. WE HAVE THREE AMENDMENTS. MR. COX, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO -- I WANT THE COUNCILORS TO BE AWARE, FROM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, EACH AMENDMENT IS AMENDING THE SAME LINE ON THE SAME PAGE IN THE SAME SECTION. I WANT THE COUNCILORS, IF YOU CAN RECAP THE THREE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL THREE CANNOT PASS WITHOUT ONE CHANGING THE OTHER AND IN THE END ONLY HAVE ONE OF THEM. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONFIRM THAT AND HELP MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE DISCUSS THEM. >> THERE ARE TWO AMENDMENTS ALMOST IDENTICAL EXCEPT FOR NOTICE OF VIOLATION UNDER SECTION 11-119 THAT SETS A DIFFERENT FEE VUKTURE. THOSE ARE IN CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER. JUST TWO SEPARATE IDEAS OF HOW TO APPROACH THIS. THE THIRD AMENDMENT, IF POSSIBLE, IT SHOULD GO FIRST TO ENSURE THAT LANGUAGE GOES IN, WHICH IS BRINGING IN THE LANGUAGE IMMINENT HAZARD AT THE END OF THAT AMENDMENT. IF THAT DOES GET VOTED ON FIRST, IT CAN BE CORRECTED WITH THE SECOND OR THIRD. >>COUN. BASSAN: IN THAT CASE, COUNCILOR ROGERS, AMENDMENT ONE IS THE SMALLER OF THE TWO AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS AMENDMENT IS JUST AFTER A CONVERSATION TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I UNDERSTAND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE ONLY DO THIS IN THE CASES OF IMMINENT HAZARD. EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE VIOLATION, WE DON'T ALWAYS IMPOSE FINES. IT'S REALLY UPON IMMINENT HAZARD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT PLAIN SO WE KNOW IT'S NOT JUST EVERY VIOLATION THAT YOU POSSIBLY CAN GET. I USE MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE. THE ONE I RECEIVED. I GOT A LETTER. I FIXED IT. WE'RE GOOD. SO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IMMINENT HAZARD IS THE TRIGGER FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO IMPOSE FINES. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ADD THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE MOTION FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. COX, IS IMMINENT HAZARD DEFINED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, YES. IT IS DEFINED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO? >>COUN. ROGERS: FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO IS VERY SIMILAR TO FLOOR AMENDMENT THREE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS I ADDED THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT'S IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT GIVES FOLK A CHANCE UP UNTIL THE $500 LIMIT THRESHOLD. SO, THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO AND FLOOR AMENDMENT THREE. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IDENTICAL. I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO TO O-63. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MR. COX, THIS IS PUTTING BACK IN THE WORDING OF THE CIVIL FINE FOR ANY PERSON WHO CREATES HARDSHIP, LOW INCOME, SHALL NOT EXCEED $200. IS THAT IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO APPLY FOR HARDSHIP, LOW INCOME, ET CETERA, TO HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN. BUT IT DOES NOT IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC LOWER COST, WHICH IS WHAT THIS DOES DO. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. COX. I UNDERSTAND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. I HAVE A HARD TIME FOR SAYING FOR THE SAME VIOLATION ONE CERTAIN TYPE OF PERSON HAS ONE FINE AND ANOTHER PERSON HAS ANOTHER. IT SHOULD, TO ME, BE ALL OR NONE. WITH WHATEVER FEE STRUCTURE THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE BECAUSE YOU ARE THIS PERSON, YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE, AND BECAUSE YOU ARE THAT PERSON YOU GET TO PAY LESS FOR THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS WHAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY HAPPENING NOW. THIS IS WHAT'S IN OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. I THINK FOR MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS LOW INCOME, INCLUDING SOME BUSINESS OWNERS, THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF AN ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN MEET THESE FEES. I THINK, FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT FINE FEES AND JUSTICE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> IT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA, FLOOR AMENDMENT THREE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. COX, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS AMENDMENT THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILOR ROGERS DOES, JUST SO IT PROVIDES CLARITY. AND I'LL ADD MY COMMENTS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. COX. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS IS ALMOST THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE. IT ADDS THE 30-DAY WARNING NOTIFICATION FOR ANYONE RECEIVING THE CIVIL FINE. INSTEAD OF THE THREE TIERED SYSTEM THAT EXISTED IN THE FORMER ORDINANCE, IT KEEPS IT AT A $500 FLAT FEE, UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE HARDSHIP, LOW INCOME OR INDIGENT STATUS. WHICH IT CANNOT EXCEED $200. ALSO, THESE AMENDMENTS DO REARRANGE THE ORDER OF 11-119. AT THE BOTTOM IT BRINGS IN THE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IN ADDITION TO ANY OTHER REMEDIES AVAILABLE TO THE ORDINANCE OR COMMON LAW, THE MAYOR DSIGNEE SHALL IMPOSE A FINE AND IT RETITLED THAT SECTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A FINE OF $500 THEY CAN AFFORD IT, AND SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T. IF THEY CAN DEMONSTRATE HARDSHIP, FOR EXAMPLE IF THEY'RE RECEIVING SERVICES OR THEY'RE LOW INCOME, OR THEY'RE HANDICAPPED AND THEY JUST CANNOT AFFORD TO EVEN MAYBE RECTIFY SOME OF THE INSTANCES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMES THAT WE GET THAT ARE -- I LOST THE WORD. ANYWAY, SO WE DON'T CONDEMN. CONDEMN SOME HOUSES RELATED TO -- SOME PEOPLE REALLY CAN'T DO THE MAINTENANCE NECESSARY TO GET IT BACK INTO COMPLIANCE, SO IT COMES IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND WE END UP TAKING THOSE HOUSES FROM PEOPLE. I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, IF THIS IS GOING TO PASS, FOR US TO -- PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE MEANS CAN DEMONSTRATE THEIR INABILITY AND THEY CAN HAVE A SMALLER FINE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, BEFORE WE GO TO THE CLOSE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS -- ON PAGE EIGHT, SUBPART C, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUBPART IS NOT TO PUNISH BUT ABATE PUBLIC NUSES. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT COUNCILOR PEÑA AND COUNCILOR ROGERS IS TRYING TO GET AT. IF THE PURPOSE IS TO HELP US FIX NUISANCE PROBLEMS , I DON'T SEE HOW LARGE FINES AGAINST LOW INCOME NEIGHBORS IS GOING TO HELP WITH THAT. I LIKE TO THANK THEM BOTH FOR THINKING THROUGH THIS AND COMING UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT AT LEAST SOMEWHAT IS EQUITABLE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILORS, I HAVE THE SAME FEELING AS ON THE LAST ONE. I'M OKAY WITH THE IDEA PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY, PER SE, OR IT SAYS IN HERE IT SHALL NOT EXCEED $500. IT WAS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE DEPARTMENT. THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS TWO SEPARATE RULES FOR THE SAME ISSUE. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME ROOM FOR CONVERSATION, BUT AS THESE AMENDMENTS ARE WRITTEN, AND FOR THE RECORD TOO, I WANT TO BE SURE TO BE CLEAR I'M NOT NECESSARILY TELLING ANYONE I AGREE WITH THE HIGHER FINE ANDPENALIZINGING THE NUISANCE PROPERTIES. I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M NOT OKAY WITH SAYING IF YOU'RE ONE PERSON AND YOU COMMIT THE SAME CRIME OR YOU HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM, YOU GET ONE FINE, AND IF YOU'RE A DIFFERENT PERSON AND COMMIT THE SAME CRIME OR THE SAME PROBLEM, THEN YOU GET A TOTALLY DIFFERENT AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOUR CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, I DIDN'T HEAR OF COUNCILOR PEÑA MOVING IT AND GETTING A SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT AND COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANTED TO SEE IF THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HAD ANY COMMENT. MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN DO WE FINE PEOPLE? CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I WANT TO OPEN BY SAYING A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT WAS VERY GOOD TO HEAR. I HAVE NO OBJECTION. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND -- THE POSSIBLE GAPS ON DOMOSTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS AND SUCH NEED TO BE FIXED. MOST DEFINITELY. WE HEAR THAT AND WE WILL WORK WITH LEGAL TO IMPROVE THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL. THE GOAL IS NEVER TO FINE PEOPLE. THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE AND CLEAN. CODE ENFORCEMENT, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED MANY, MANY TIMES ESPECIALLY DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS DOES NOT DRIVE AROUND TIME LOOKING FOR VIOLATIONS. PEOPLE REPORT VIOLATIONS PRIMARILY THROUGH THE 311 SYSTEM AND WE, IN ORDER TO FULFILL OUR DUTY, INVESTIGATE THOSE COMPLAINTS THAT COME FROM THE 311 SYSTEM. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO DRIVE AROUND AND MAKE PEOPLE MISERABLE. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS SAFE AND RELATIVELY CLEAN. BY CLEAN WE MEAN THERE'S A NOT A HAZARD, A DISEASE VECTOR, THERE'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FALL ON SOMEBODY, THERE'S NOT A FIRE HAZARD. ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT COME WITH PROPERTIES THAT FALL INTO A SPACE OF DILAPIDATION. OUR GOAL IS NOT TO FINE PEOPLE. WE DON'T GET TO KEEP THE FINES. IF THE FINES GET COLLECTED THEY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. THE ENTIRE GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE GO INTO COMPLIANCE AND DO THE BEST THEY CAN. WE WORK WITH THEM. WE ALWAYS PROVIDE A CHANCE FOR PEOPLE TO TELL THEIR SIDE OF THE STORY. A CHANCE TO HEAR A DEFECT, IF THERE'S A DEFECT ON THEIR OWN. AND WE CAN RESPOND TO THE OTHER 70 COMPLAINTS PER DAY THAT COME THROUGH THE 311 SYSTEM. I DO NOT HAVE EXACT NUMBERS ON HOW MANY FINES ARE ACTUALLY IMPOSED AND COLLECTED. BUT IT IS RELATIVELY MINUSCULE IN RELATION TO THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT WILL BE RESOLVED BY HAVING A DETERRENT AVAILABLE TO US WHICH SAYS IF YOU DON'T DO IT YOU WILL BE SERIOUSLY FIND. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE GOAL OF THIS BILL IS. IT PROVIDES A STRONG DETERRENT TOOL FOR THE CITY TO USE IN ORDER TO KEEP NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. FOLLOW UP. HOW OFTEN -- YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE NUMBERS. MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WHEN SOMEBODY REAVES A -- RECEIVES A VIOLATION OF A NOTICE. DO THEY MORE OFTEN THAN NOT RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES? HOW MANY DO WE GET TO THIS POINT? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT, APPROXIMATELY 85% TO 95% OF THE TIME THE OWNER, AND WE'VE ALL RECEIVED THOSE LETTERS. AT ONE POINT IN YOUR LIFE, YOU FIND OUT I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WEED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY BACK WALL BETWEEN THE SIDE WALK AND THE ROAD. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. BUT WE ALL TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND WE FIND OUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE RULE AND CLEAN IT UP. SO, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE APPROACH WE TAKE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE HAPPILY OR UNHAPPILY CHOOSE TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND KEEP THE PROPERTY CLEAR AND CLEAN. WE EXPLAINED IT THAT THESE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY POINTING OUT SOMETHING THAT DOES VIOLATE AN EXISTING ORDINANCE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE IT. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU THINK IN A YEAR SOMEONE GETS IMPOSED ON THESE FINES? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I DIDN'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. I STATED THAT 85 TO 90% OF THE CASES DO NOT RESULT IN THE IMPOSITION OF ANY FINES. COUNCILOR ROGERS, YES 15%. >>COUN. ROGERS: OKAY. IN FOLLOWING COUNCIL BEFORE I WAS A COUNCILOR, PAT DAVIS MADE MAJOR CHANGES TO THIS IN MAY OF 2023. MS. KEEFE, YOU MENTIONED THESE CHANGES CAME BECAUSE OF A COURT CASE. WERE THERE ANY CHANGES -- DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT FROM THE JUDGE WHEN THIS BODY DID THIS IN 2023? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS I WAS HERE THEN. I DO REMEMBER THAT CHANGE INCLUDED THE ADDITION OF A FINE. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER CHANGES AT THAT TIME WERE. >>COUN. ROGERS: SURE. LAST QUESTION, DID THE JUDGE WEIGH IN ON THESE CHANGES? IS THAT SOMETHING HE WOULD DO IS SAYING DOES THIS DRAFT CLARIFY THE THINGS THAT YOU QUESTIONED? >> THAT WOULD BE NICE. BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A CHANCE TO SAY THIS IS SATISFYING YOUR CONCERNS. WE'LL LEARN THAT IF WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ACTION, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANNED RIGHT NOW. THE CITY HAS -- THE CITY DOES NOT GO TO COURT OVER NUISANCE ACTIONS VERY OFTEN AT ALL. IT'S REALLY JUST BEEN A HANDFUL OVER YEARS AND YEARS. OCCASIONALLY, A PROPERTY IS SUCH A PROBLEM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE DO HAVE TO. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND WE'LL GO TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS NOT RELATED TO THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR CLOSE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. PEÑA: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. O-63. I KNOW COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I THINK I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND AN AMENDMENT OR TWO OR FOUR. I THINK THESE ARE FOR DIRECTOR VARELA. I'M LOOKING ON PAGE TWO WHERE WE TALK ABOUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. THREE OR MORE OCCASIONS WITHIN A THREE MONTH PERIOD COULD CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE PROPERTY. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS SAYS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY RATHER THAN ARRESTS OR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DEFINABLE. I BELIEVE THERE'S CRIMINAL ACTIVITY HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE. IF THERE'S NO CHARGE, HOW ARE WE DOCUMENTING THERE HAVE BEEN THREE INSTANCES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO LEGAL TO ANSWER THAT. THE BILL WAS PRIMARILY DRAFTED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN RESPONSE TO ADVICE GLEANED FROM COURT EXPERIENCE. SO WHAT PLANNING ADDED WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PENALTIES ROUTE. RATHER THAN TRYING TO TAKE THE CITY AND PEOPLE THAT WERE ACCUSED OF VIOLATIONS STRAIGHT THROUGH AN EXPENSIVE COURT PROCESS. YOU CAN STILL GO TO THE COURT PROCESS AFTER THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT PLANNING DEPARTMENT CONTRIBUTED TO THE DRAFT OF THE BILL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS. FIRST OF ALL THE DEFINITION OF PUBLIC NUISANCE IS NOT A NUISANCE PROPERTY, IT'S A PUBLIC NUISANCE. LATER, THERE ARE REMEDIES THAT APPLY WHEN A NUISANCE ALLOWED ON A PROPERTY. A NUISANCE CAN EXIST SEPARATE FROM PROPERTY. THIS IS A DEFINITION OF PUBLIC NUISANCE. AND, ALSO LATER IN THE CRIMINAL SECTION, IT DEFINES WHAT IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. THAT DOES INCLUDE PROVISIONS THAT THE CRIME OF ENGAGING IN A NUISANCE HAS TO BE BY SOMEBODY WHO HAS KNOWINGLY ENGAGED IN AN NUISANCE ACTIVITY OR ALLOWED IT TO OCCUR ON THEIR PROPERTY. IT IS NOT THE VICTIM OF CRIME. IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY PERPETRATING THE CRIME OR ALLOWING CRIME TO CONTINUE ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. I JUST DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. THAT SAID, I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS A GOOD ONE. AND PERHAPS SOMETHING WE CAN CLARIFY THAT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY MIGHT NOT BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SECOND QUESTION IS -- I'M GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR. THIS IS ORDINANCE PROPOSAL DUE TO ANY INSTANCES HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AT A BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, NO. CITY LEGAL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR. THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS ITERATIONS AND DRAFTS. THERE WAS NOTHING RECENT THAT INSPIRED THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE. IT WAS A PRIOR ACTION THAT WE HAD ATTEMPTED AND GOT FEEDBACK FROM THE JUDGE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THE WAY I'M READING IT, A NUISANCE TO BE DECLARED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE INSTANCES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND WE'RE GOING TO RETHINK HOW WE REPHRASE THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE INSTANCES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ON THE PROPERTY, OR THREE INSTANCES OF A THROUGH I ON PAGE THREE. THAT FEELS TO ME WE'RE EQUATING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY WITH SOMETHING LIKE -- BECAUSE THEY GET THE SAME THREE CITATIONS COULD EQUAL EXACTLY THE SAME AS THREE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. IS THAT TRUE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I SAY THAT'S TRUE TO AN EXTENT. THE FIRST SENTENCE HERE IS A NUISANCE IS SOMETHING ADVERSELY AFFECTS PUBLIC HEALTH, WELFARE OR SAFETY. THREE INSTANCES ARE UNLIKELY TO AFFECT PUBLIC WELFARE, HEALTH OR SAFETY. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S NOT SIMPLY THAT THERE HAS TO BE THREE INSTANCES OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR ORDINANCE VIOLATION. IT HAS TO BE INSTANCES THAT AFFECT PUBLIC WELFARE OR SAFETY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS I DON'T SEE WHERE WHATEVER THESE RISE TO THE NOTIFICATION. I'M GOING TO MOVE AN AMENDMENT. IF YOU CAN PUT THEM UP ON THE SCREEN. THIS IS REALLY, EVERYBODY WILL GET ONE, AND I WILL MOVE IT IN A SECOND. THIS IS REALLY TO THAT POINT. I THINK CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND THINGS LIKE FOOD SANITATION, ANIMAL TREATMENT, RODENT CONTROL, FIRE CODE, THOSE ARE VERY, VERY SERIOUS THINGS. I'M NOT SURE THAT WEED ORDINANCE MAKES IT TO THE TOP. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR THAT BASICALLY STRIKES THE NUMBER G, WHICH IS LITTER ORDINANCE AND RENUMBER BELOW THAT. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I WAS READING AND LOOKING. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? MS. KEEFE. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE COVERS FAR MORE THAN WEEDS. I BELIEVE MR. VARELA CAN SPEAK TO THIS. WE HAVE IN FACT INITIATED NUISANCE ORDINANCES -- ACTIONS UNDER THE ORDINANCE FOR SOME PROPERTIES THAT HAVE -- THE FRONT YARD IS COMPLETELY FULL WITH ALL KINDS OF ITEMS AND WE HAVE HAD TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE PROPERTIES AND GET THE ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE YARD. I DO BELIEVE THAT IS WHY THAT'S IN HERE. THE PROPERTY I'M THINKING OF, IT WAS JUST THE FRONT YARD WAS COMPLETELY FULL WITH GARBAGE. ALL KINDS OF GARBAGE. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR VARELA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDEN -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN TO US THE EFFECT OF REMOVING THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE. >> THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS NO OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT. THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE STANDS ON ITS OWN AS AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THIS ORDINANCE, I UNDERSTAND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM, BUT WEED AND LITTER CAN ACTUALLY PRESENT A FIRE HAZARD. IT CAN PRESENT A SAFETY HAZARD IF PEOPLE CAN'T ACCESS THAT. PUBLIC SAFETY CAN'T ACCESS THAT BECAUSE OF WEEDS AND LITTER. IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE. I DON'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, CAN YOU COME BACK? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE BY TAKING OUT THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE FROM THIS BILL DOES NOT ELIMINATE THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE OF THE CITY? IT ELIMINATES THE WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE FROM THE SECTION IN THIS BILL, IS THAT CORRECT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THAT'S CORRECT. IT REMOVES IT FROM THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE TYPE OF OFFENSES THAT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF DAY TO DAY NUISANCE. HOWEVER, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT POLICY DECISION ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL. WE WOULD LIKE IT IN THERE, IT WON'T KILL IT -- FOR US IT WON'T MAKE IT UNEFFECTIVE IF IT COMES OUT. WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? COUNCILOR GROUT BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IN RESPECT TO WEED AND LITTER, AND UNDERSTAND. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I WORK THERE'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN FULL OF STUFF THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE. AND THEY HAVE BURNED AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN THERE MANY TIMES. AND ABOUT A MONTH AGO, ONE OF THEM HAD TO BE TORN DAWN BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN ON FIRE SO MANY TIMES. THERE'S SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA. SO, WHILE TALL WEEDS ARE NOT -- THEY'RE UGLY, BUT THE LITTER STUFF CAN BECOME A REAL PROBLEM IN MY OPINION. I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WHEN AND IF THIS PASSES THAT IT IS USED THOUGHTFULLY, RESPECTFULLY, AND SPARINGLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK THAT WHILE THE INTENTION MIGHT BE THAT ITS ONLY FOR MASSIVE HOARDING SITUATIONS THAT HAVE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT COUNCILOR GROUT GAVE, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IS IF A PERSON GETS THREE CITATIONS FOR WEEDS IN THEIR YARD, IN A THREE-MONTH PERIOD THEY QUALIFY FOR THI I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT. I THINK WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN AROUND ALLOWING THAT MUCH LENIENCY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. SO, I'M NOT SAYING WEED AND LITTER ORDINANCE SHOULD NOT BE IN PLACE. IT'S A GREAT ORD FINANCE. I SUPPORT IT. I HAVE MANY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THAT REPORT PROBLEMS WITH NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESSES. I WANT THAT TO MAINTAIN. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF THESE OTHER PROBLEMS IN THAT IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A NUISANCE PROPERTY THAT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THAT NEXT STEP. SO, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I WILL JUST ALSO SAY IF THERE A LOT OF LITTER THAT WOULD ALSO BE AGAINST THE FIRE CODE AND IT WOULD ALSO BE AGAINST THE RODENT CONTROL. IF IT WAS AN EXTREME CASE IT WOULD BE COVERED WITHIN THIS NUISANCE ORDINANCE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THE MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT FOUR ON O-63. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO MOVE. I WILL JUST -- LET ME ASK A QUESTION WHILE THIS IS BEING HANDED OUT. DIRECTOR VARELA, OR CITY ATTORNEY, IT STRUCK ME READING THE ORDINANCE THAT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR THREE TIMES FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHATEVER THAT ENDS UP MEANING. THE SAME NUMBER OF ALLOWANCES FOR SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH LESS OF A PROBLEM LIKE A NOISE PROBLEM. SO, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING THREE BE THE MAGIC NUMBER IN BOTH PLACES WAS? >> NARRATOR: >>COUN. BASSAN: >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE. >> IT DOES REQUIRE THIS THRESHOLD OF FINDING ADVERSE IMPACT ON HEALTH OR SAFETY. THE THREE WAS TO CREATE A THRESHOLD. BECAUSE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THERE IS NO THRESHOLD. THERE'S A LONG, LONG LIST OF CRIME THAT COULD GIVE RISE TO A NUISANCE FINDING. TO ME, IT'S ALMOST EVERY CRIME THERE IS. THERE'S NO THRESHOLD. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO ADD ONE. THAT WOULD BE A POLICY DETERMINATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, WHICH YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. THIS REALLY JUST CHANGES THE NUMBER OF INSTANCES OF THE LESSER ORDINANCE PROBLEMS FROM THREE TO SIX. SO, MAKING IT MORE OF A LEVEL PLAYING GROUND. I DON'T THINK A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS EQUAL TO A NOISE ISSUE. IT JUST STRUCK ME THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNFAIR. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE THRESHOLD OF HEALTH, WELFARE, AND SAFETY. WHO IS MAKING THAT JUDGMENT? I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE IN THE HANDS OF ONE INDIVIDUAL. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE TARGETED. I THINK IF YOU'RE HAVING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THREE TIMES THAT'S A BIG DEAL. IF YOU HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS IT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE MORE WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS TO MOVE THAT ALONG RATHER THAN SAYING THREE TIMES WITH FOOD SANITATION PROBLEMS AND YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY A NUISANCE. I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR ROGERS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ON O-63. [ ROLL CALL ] -- >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I JUST WANTED TO -- LRN . >> I WANT TO BRING UP THE ISSUE RELATED TO FIRE CODE. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES RELATED TO FIRES ON PROPERTIES, OUTSIDE FIRES, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. IF I MAY, I WANT TO ASK DIRECTOR VARELA TO SPEAK TO FIRE CODE. BECAUSE I THINK SIX INCIDENTS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT IN THE FIRE CODE ISSUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR VARELA. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, SIX ALMOST BOGGLES THE MIND AS NUMBER OF CHANCES TO GIVE SOMEBODY WHO IS BASICALLY ENDANGERING THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT GOING FROM ONE STRIKE AND YOU'RE OUT, WHICH IS IT WAS BEFORE TO THREE CHANCES IS VERY -- IS A VERY GOOD AND LENIENT APPROACH. ALSO, TAKING PEOPLE THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS, WHICH THEY CAN APPEAL TO DISTRICT COURT IF THEY WANT, RATHER THAN DRAGGING THEM THROUGH THE PAIN, ANGUISH, TERROR OF GOING TO DISTRICT COURT RIGHT OFF THE BAT -- I'M AN ATTORNEY, AND I KNOW ONE OF THE BIGGEST THREATS YOU CAN HOLD ON SOMEONE IS TAKING YOU TO DISTRICT COURT. IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REPRESENT YOURSELF. THERE'S A LOT OF RULES THAT COME INTO PLAY THAT PLACE A HUGE BIRD ON PEOPLE. WE DID AWAY WITH THAT BY SAYING WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING PROCESS. IT'S IN FRONT OF AN INDEPENDENT HEARING OFFICER HIRED THROUGH AN RFP PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE QUALIFICATIONS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE ATTORNEYS AND EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAW AND ABILITY TO APPLY EVIDENCE IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH A DECISION. I THINK WE'VE MADE SOME VERY GOOD CONCESSIONS IN THE WAY THIS HAS BEEN DRAFTED. I BELIEVE THAT'S KEEP EVERYBODY ON THE PLAYING FIELD WITH THREE VIOLATIONS IS APPROPRIATE. WE DO HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS IN THE CITY WITH FIRES BREAKING OUT. I GET THE REPORTS AS THEY COME THROUGH FROM AFR BECAUSE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ON CALL 24-7. WE HAVE TO GO OUT THERE TO GO INTO THESE SITUATIONS AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO PUT UP EMERGENCY FENCING. DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO DEPLOY CITY RESOURCES TO HAVE A SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURE BECAUSE SUPPORTING BEAMS GOT BURNT AND DAMAGED AND THE CEILING IS CAVING IN AND HAVING IT TAKEN DOWN. THREE OFFENSES IS PLENTY. SIX IS WAY TOO MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK IN REALITY WE'RE NOT GOING FROM ONE TO THREE. I'VE BEEN OPCOUNCIL FOR THREE YEARS AND WE'VE HAD EVERY NUISANCE ABATEMENT ISSUE THAT CAME BEFORE US FOR CONSIDERATION WAS THAT 75 FIRES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. I THINK WE'RE STILL NARROWING IT DOWN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE ADMINISTRATION WHILE THEY'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO DEFINE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEFINED AND WE HEARD IT COULD BE, TO ADD THE FIRE STUFF INTO THAT SECTION. BUT THE OTHER THINGS LISTED IN HERE ARE THINGS THAT -- SIX INSTANCES WOULD NOT BE EXCESSIVE ON. I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS AND HAVE THIS CHANGE MADE AND I WOULD BE TOTALLY OPEN TO THE FIRE STUFF BEING ADDED INTO PAGE 2, NUMBER ONE, UNDER PUBLIC NUISANCE BECAUSE THAT DOES SEEM TO BE IN LINE WITH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. BECAUSE HAVING SOMETHING THAT CAN START A FIRE IS CRIMINAL IN MY MIND. THE OTHER THINGS ARE JUST NOT EQUAL. NOISE ORDINANCE PROBLEMS IS NOT EQUAL TO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR FIRE STARTING. WITH TAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. CALL THE ROLL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH THE NUMBER -- WITH THE SHORTENED LIST OF THINGS UNDER NUMBER THREE ON PAGE THREE, THAT A BUSINESS COULD NOT BE DEEMED A NUISANCE SOLELY BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLOWING UNHOUSED PEOPLE TO PUT UP THEIR TENT IN THEIR PARKING LOT. IS THAT TRUE? OR IS THERE SOMETHING IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT COULD THEN BE USED TO DEEM THAT PROPERTY A NUISANCE? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THERE ARE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT DO RESTRICT THE ABILITY TO ALLOW FOR CAMPING ON PROPERTIES. IN FACT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE ORDINANCES THAT RESTRICT THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO USE THEIR PROPERTY. THE ENTIRE IDO IS A RESTRICTION ON PROPERTY. WE HAVE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT RESTRICT PROPERTY. WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT HAVE A CAMPGROUND IN PRIVATE PROPERTY IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO, WHETHER THAT MAKES IT A NUISANCE, I DON'T KNOW. IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, MY READING OF THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE FOLKS TONIGHT AND ONLINE, IS THAT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO JUST BE TARGETED TOWARD ANYBODY WHO ALLOWS CAMPING ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. WHILE I AGREE THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT THIS BODY HAS PASSED THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF CAMPING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL, I DIDN'T VOTE FOR ANY OF THOSE THINGS, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE MORAL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GIVING ANOTHER TOOL TO TARGET OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. I WILL MOVE MY LAST AMENDMENT. THIS IS THE LAST ONE. THAT IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. I'LL PUT IT ON THE SCREEN. IT BASICALLY JUST ADDS A SENTENCE THAT SAYS, IN NO INSTANCE SHALL ALLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO CAMP OR STORE BELONGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY BE DEEMED PUBLIC NUISANCE. AGAIN, VERY CONCERNED AND SO IS THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS ANOTHER TOOL AGAINST UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME ASSURANCE THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO BE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR ROGERS. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO STORE THEIR BELONGINGS ON. I'M NOT HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO BELONGS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY DEFECATION URINATION TRASH AND OTHER ISSUES. EVEN CRIMINAL ISSUES. SUCH AS TRAFFICKING, PROSTITUTION, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION, MAYBE, FOR OUR LEGAL. IF THIS WERE TO PASS, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IT WOULDN'T HAVE IMPACTS ON EXISTING ORDINANCES. IT WOULD JUST AFFECT THIS ORD INDEPENDENCE AS PROPOSED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I'LL PROCESS THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ADMINISTRATION, MS. KEEFE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN TO CLOSE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR. ALL OF THE OTHER LAWS THIS BODY PASSED THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO CAMP IN PUBLIC PLACES, THAT MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO CAMP IF THERE'S NOT A CAMPGROUND DESIGNATION, ALL OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE TO CRIMINALIZE HOMELESSNESS ARE STILL IN EFFECT. ALL I'M SAYING IS WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY PRETTY LOUDLY THE LAST COUPLE DAYS THEY WOULD LIKE ONE LESS TOOL AND THIS IS JUST ASSURING THEM, AS WE'VE BEEN TOLD THIS IS ABOUT MAKING THE CITY SAFE AND STOPPING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WEAPONIZE THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE NOT IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY AND CAMP, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE DIDN'T GIVE YOU ONE MORE BULLET IN THE GUN FOR THE PERSON TRYING TO HELP UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FLOOR AMENDMENT SIX. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M DONE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON O-63 AS AMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS FOR 30 DAYS TO OUR MARCH 3rd MEETING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND TO DEFER FOR 30 DAYS. ANY DISCUSSION? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE MOVING TO O-68. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: COMMITTEE SUBAMENDING THE METROPOLITAN -- RELATED TO CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ FOR O-68. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I AM IN FAVOR OF TIF FINANCING. I THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREAS IN OUR CITY. I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENCY WITH ALL OF THE UNRESTRICTED FUNDS THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW HOW IT'S GETTING SPENT AND THE TAXPAYERS KNOW THIS AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MS. DELGADO TO BRIEFLY OUTLINE WHAT THIS BILL DOES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TIME TO OUTLINE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. O-68 PROPOSES A STRUCTURE ON HOW THE INITIATING -- THE CITY AND THE TIF PROCESS INITIATES A RESOLUTION FOR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. IT ALSO ENSURES THAT THE CURRENT METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE CURRENT IN THEIR ANALYSIS AND STRATEGIES WHEN PROPOSING THAT TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. IT ALSO INSTITUTES OR PROPOSES TO, LIKE COUNCILOR GROUT STATED, TRANSPARENCY. REQUIRING THAT THE AGENCY PUBLISH ITS STUDIES AND ACTION PLANS ON THE WEBSITE. AS WELL AS ALSO PROPOSES THAT METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PRODUCED AN ANNUAL REPORT AND THAT INCLUDES PROJECTS AND PROJECT REVENUE THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FROM THE VARIOUS PARTICIPATING GOVERNMENT. IT ALSO PROPOSES TO INSTITUTE AN ACTION PLAN. THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL STRATEGIC LAYER. MORE OF AN ACTUAL MATE -- MATRIX. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROCESS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. DELGADO. I APPRECIATE THAT. I MET WITH THE MRA AGENCY LAST WEEK. THEY SUGGESTED SOME AMENDMENTS. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE THOSE NOW. YOU DID PUT THEM IN THE iPADS IN THE OVER THE WEEKEND. WE DID FORWARD THEM TO MRA AGENCY AS WELL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. OF PAGE TWO, LINE 25, STRIKE-OUT SECTION -- I'LL READ THE EXPLANATION. THIS AMENDMENT ENSURES THE TIF DISTRICTS ARE SUPPORTED BY AN UPDATED METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. PROPOSES TO EXTEND THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PLAN FROM FIVE TO TEN YEARS FROM THE DATE THE INITIATION RESOLUTION IS INTRODUCED. ADDITIONALLY, IT PROVIDES A TWO-YEAR PERIOD FOR THE MR AGENCY TO UPDATE THE PLAN IF THE CRITERION IS NOT MET AT THE TIME THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED. THIS AMENDMENT IS DRAFTED BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MR AGENCY. WE HAVE 22MRs IN THE CITY, STEM SOME OF THEM ARE OVER 20 YEARS OLD. WHILE THINGS HAVE CHANGED, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS CURRENT. IF WE IN OUR DISTRICTS START PLANNING THIS PROCESS, WE GET THAT RESOLUTION INITIATED AND YOU HAVE THAT TIME TO GET THAT MR UPDATED IF NECESSARY. AND MOVE FORWARD. I THINK THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHANGE THAT THEY RECOMMENDED. I DO AGREE WITH. I LOOK TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. BRUNER OR THE ADMINISTRATION -- MY FIRST THOUGHT IS WE SHOULDN'T BE MAKING TIF PLANS OFF OF 10-YEAR-OLD PLANS. IS IT JUST A CAPACITY THING BECAUSE EVERY FIVE YEARS IS TOO HARD? WHAT'S THE CURRENT DRAFT FOR UPDATING THE MRA PLAN? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE CURRENT PROCESS IS WE UPDATE MRA PLANS WHEN WE'RE REQUESTED TO. SO, THERE'S -- IT DEPENDS ON IF IT'S COUNCIL DRIVEN OR COMMUNITY-DRIVEN. I BELIEVE THE IDEA HERE IS TEN YEARS WAS SEEN AS A REASONABLE TIME FRAME BECAUSE NOT MUCH CHANGES IN TEN YEARS. IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THEY DID. YOU TAKE SOME PLANS -- FOR ME, WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE ADC WE PASSED A COUPLE PLANS IN THE FIRST KELLER ADMINISTRATION THAT ARE ALMOST AT THE TEN-YEAR MARK AND HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED. GOING OUT AND DOING A NEW PLAN, NEW PLANS WILL COST US 250 GRAND, THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF MONEY WE HAVE SITTING AROUND IN THE COUCH CUSHION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. WOULD THIS RESTRICT US FROM DOING IT EARLIER IF WE COULD? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, I'M NOT SURE -- DOING WHICH EARLIER? >>COUN. ROGERS: IF I SAID I WANTED TO UPDATE MY PLAN NOW, THIS WOULDN'T SAY SORRY YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR TEN YEARS. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, NO. NOTHING PROHIBITS YOU FROM UPDATING AN MRA PLAN WHENEVER YOU WANT TO. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: QUESTION FOR THE DIRECTOR. I KNOW THERE'S -- I'M SURE YOU'VE READ THIS BILL AND THE AMENDMENTS YOU GUYS PARTICIPATED IN SHAPING AMENDMENTS. WE WANT THIS TIF TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND WE WANT -- WE DON'T WANT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE KELLER ADMINISTRATION. THESE IDEAS THAT NEVER DEVELOP INTO ANYTHING. BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME SENSIBLE THINGS IN HERE. I THINK THE EFFORTS OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE IT'S TRANSPARENT AND GOOD ACCOUNTABILITY TO IT. WHAT ELSE -- LET ME ASK YOU JUST BLANKET THIS ENTIRE BILL WITH AMENDMENTS AND EVERYTHING BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT, THIS IS GOING TO HELP YOU GET IT DONE? OR ALL OF IT JUST NOT WORTH OUR TIME TONIGHT AND WE JUST GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED AND LET YOU DO WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE I'M WILLING TO DO THAT AS WELL. I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS THERE ANYTHING HERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THAT YOU CAN LIVE WITH THAT WOULD HELP YOU. >> COUNCILOR, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHAT I LOVED ABOUT THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING THESE ANDMENTS IS THE ABILITY TO MEET WITH THE COUNCILOR IN ADVANCE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE AND NOT HAVE TO INTERPRET THEM ON THE FLY. BUT DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WE NOT ONLY DISCUSSED OUR SUPPORT FOR THE SIX WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US FROM COUNCILOR GROUT, BUT ALSO THE RECOGNITION THAT THIS PROCESS IS ITERATIVE. IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. IT WILL CHANGE. THE TIF IN A YEAR AND HALF WILL BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE STATE MAKES SOME RULE, THE COUNTY MAY MAKE DEMAND, AND WE HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND ADJUST ALONG THE WAY. I THINK THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU'RE OKAY WITH ALL THE AMENDMENTS? >> YES, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I AM. THE SIX THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I GUESS I'D ASK COUNCILOR GROUT, IS THE SIX WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING EVERYTHING -- OF COURSE THERE COULD BE AMENDMENTS. I GUESS, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU FEEL LIKE WOULD HINDER OUR ABILITY IN THIS BILL TONIGHT? ANYTHING THAT WOULD HINDER YOUR ABILITY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL? IT GETS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, AT THE MOMENT, NO. AGAIN, I REITERATE THIS PROCESS IS STILL BEING BORNE OUT. WE SENT A LETTER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER INVITING THEM TO JOIN, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE. THINGS CAN CHANGE. WE WELCOME FLEXIBILITY TO ADAPT TO CHANGES TO WHATEVER IS BEING REQUIRED BY THE STATE AND COUNTY AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS AS WE PUT THIS TOGETHER. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY WITH WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT? OKAY, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BACA: JUST A QUICK QUESTION DIRECTOR. DOES THIS, WHETHER OR AMENDMENT OR NOT, WILL THIS HAVE AN AFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TIF WE JUST PASSED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'D HAVE TO ASK LEGAL IF THAT'S THE CASE. I DON'T THINK SO. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. KEEFE. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR BACA, I HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT ORDINANCE ALREADY PASSED THE FLOOR, THESE CHANGES WOULD NOT IMPACT IT. >>COUN. BACA: OKAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THE MOTION IS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. I'M GOING TO READ THE EXPLANATION. IT SAYS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT ESTABLISHES A CLEAR AND STREAMLINED TIMELINE FOR THE MRA AGENCY TO SECURE APPROVAL OF AN ACTION PLAN SETTING A TWO-YEAR DEADLINE. IT ALSO CLARIFIES THE ACTION PLAN SHALL BE MAINTAINED AS A STAND-ALONE CHAPTER WITHIN THE CORRESPONDING MRA PLAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION FOR A FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO O-68. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE IS EXPLAINING BY AMENDMENT REMOVED CRITERIA NOT ESSENTIAL TO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TIF AND CLARIFIES THE LANGUAGE. IT WAS PREPARED BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MRA. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM MADAM VICE PRESIDENT FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. GROUT: URMING -- URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO UNTIL MIDNIGHT. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR TO O-68. >>COUN. GROUT: FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR WILL CHANGE THE MONTH FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING. AND THE EXPLANATION IS THAT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT CHANGES THE DEADLINE FOR THE MR AGENCY TO SUBMIT THE TIF ACTIVITY REPORT AS REQUESTED BY THE MR AGENCY. IT REMOVES THE REQUIREMENT TO PUBLISH THE VALUES ON THE SITE AS THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE ACTION PLAN. THE ACTION PLAN MUST BE PUBLISHED ON THE AGENCY'S WEBSITE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR TO O-68. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR GROUT, AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE IS THE EXPLANATION THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REMOVES TERMINATION LANGUAGE WHILE RETAINING A REQUIREMENT FOR FINAL CLOSURE REPORT AT THE END OF 20 YEARS AND AFTER THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN DONE THAT SUMMARIZES THE GOALS ACHIEVED OVER THE LIFE OF THE AMENDMENT. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST FOR SOME CLARIFICATION, CURRENTLY, I SEE ALL THE STRIKE-OUTS THAT AUTOMATICALLY DISSOLVES. WHAT'S THE INITIATION OF THE DISSOLVEMENT? WOULD THAT BE MRA COMES TO US? HOW DOES THAT WORK? >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF OR WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M SURE MS. DELGADO CAN ANSWER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE HAVE TO LOOK TO THE STATE ORDINANCE PERTAINING TO DISSOLUTION CRITERIA. IT IS REALLY FLEXIBLE. IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A LOT OF DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF THE LIFE OF THE TIF. IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AGENCY, THEY SEEM TO FEEL THEREAT WAS A BETTER LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE PROPOSED AS TO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE LIFE OF THE TIF. I THINK AS DIRECTOR BRUNER STATED, THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS AND AS THE AGENCIES COME FORTH WITH THE FINDING OF THIS POLICY, WE HOPE TO SEE THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE. THAT IS A CRITICAL QUESTION THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M AN AUDITORY PROCESSOR. WORK WITH ME. THAT MEANS RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO RULES IN THE STATE ON HOW A TIF GETS DISSOLVED, SO US CREATING THIS WOULD BE THIS IS FOR OUR TIFs IN ALBUQUERQUE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. DELGADO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS CORRECT. THE STATE SAYS TAX INCREMENT FINANCING CEASES AT THE END OF UP TO 20 YEARS. THAT IS THE LANGUAGE AND THE DIRECTION IT PROVIDES. SO, THIS WOULD HAVE PUT IN PARAMETERS THAT ALL THE -- THE CITY WOULD STOP COLLECTING TAXES AT THE END OF THE 20 YEARS PERIOD. IF THE TIF DISTRICT IS STILL IN EFFECT UNTIL ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS OR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT IS STRIKING ONE AND TWO OF ALL OF THAT AND SAYING AFTER TERMINATION, WHATEVER THAT IS. >> WHAT IS LEFT IN THE ORDINANCE IF APPROVED WOULD AT THIS TIME ONLY REQUIRE A FINAL DISCLOSURE REPORT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONERS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, AS WE -- ARE WE THE FIRST TIF? WE HAVE THE FIRST TIF IN ALBUQUERQUE? WE GET TO SET -- ONE OF THE INFORMATION PIECES THAT I HAVE HERE IS THAT JURISDICTIONS CAN DECIDE HOW THEIR TIF FUNDS ARE MANAGED. THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS. TRYING TO MAKE THAT PART OF HOW WE'RE WANTING TO MANAGE IT. SO, SOME OF THE PROJECTS MIGHTS NOT BE QUITE DONE AT YEAR 20. THE FINAL REPORT NEEDS TO BE DONE ONCE ALL THE PROJECTS INCLUDED IN THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED IT FROM NO LATER THAN 20 YEARS. THE PROJECTS MAY NOT BE TOTALLY FINISHED. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK MY CONCERN IS IT DOESN'T SAY HOW WE TERMINATE, IT SAYS AFTER TERMINATION. THE HOW IS WHAT I'M WONDERING. THAT'S NOT OUTLINED IN HERE. THAT'S MY ISSUE. HOW DO WE TERMINATE IT. IT SAYS AFTER, BUT NOT HOW. >>COUN. GROUT: THE TIF ONLY LAST FOR 20 YEARS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THOUGHT I SAID UP TO 20 YEARS. MS. DELGADO SAID UP TO 20 YEARS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. DELGADO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, YOUR INTERPRETATION IS CORRECT. IT STILL LEAVES THAT QUESTION UNANSWERED AS TO HOW TERMINATION OCCURS. WE, AGAIN, HOPE TO SEE THAT AS THIS PROGRAM DEVELOPS THAT THE AGENCY COMES FORWARD WITH A PLAN ON TERMINATION. ACCORDING TO THEIR BEST PRACTICES. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. >>COUN. GROUT: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX IS THE EXPLANATION FOR THIS ONE, THE AMENDMENT REMOVES THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO A COMMISSION OR BOARD THE TIF. THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS IDENTIFIED AS A STREAMLINED GOVERNMENT SOLUTION. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR GROUT TO OPEN. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. AFTER TALKING WITH MR DEPARTMENTS, WE THINK -- >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE QUESTION IS DOES THE CITY COUNCIL CURRENTLY APPOINT TO THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. DELGADO? >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN I HAVE RATIONALE FOR WHY WE TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THE BOARD? OR GET RID OF THE BOARD ALTOGETHER? >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. MS. DELGADO. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IN HAVING GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF APPROVING THE DOWNTOWN AND WEST CENTRAL TIF, THERE WAS DISCRETION THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD BE THE COMMISSION THAT WOULD OVERSEE ACTIVITIES. I THINK, AGAIN, SPEAKING TO THE MRA AND COLLABORATION HERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: CAN YOU GET CLOSE DOOR THE -- CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? >> I'LL START OVER. IN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF R-102 AND 103 OF APPROVING THE DOWNTOWN TIF THERE'S DISCUSSION ON THE COUNCIL OF WHETHER OR NOT A BOARD WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROCESS. THE COUNSELAL BLPG THE COUNSEL THE COUNCIL MADE THE DECISION TO KEEP THE BOARD FOR THIS ACTIVITY. IN THE FUTURE IF IT BECOMES ANOTHER POLICY QUESTION ON IF THAT DOES CHANGE, IN THE FUTURE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SHOULD THIS SAY THAT THEN? LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE WANT THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO BE THE GOVERNANCE SOLUTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: ISN'T THIS IN THERE? >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. DELGADO. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT, CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR QUESTION? >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S PART -- IT'S IN THERE ALREADY. TALKING ABOUT THE ALBUQUERQUE -- AED. >>COUN. BASSAN: MS. DELGADO. >> CAN, COUNCILOR ROGERS -- THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY FOR TIF, IT ALL FALLS UNDER THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ORDINANCE. ADC IS THE DE FACTO BOARD CURRENTLY. THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED IS UNSTATED. AGAIN, IT POINTS ANOTHER POLICY ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCILORS. MAYBE MORE DETAILED LANGUAGE AS TO HOW MANY BOARD MEMBERS, TERMS, ET CETERA. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT DOES NOT SPELL IT OUT ANYWHERE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION SHOULD BE THE GOVERNANCE SOLUTIONS. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, IT IS STATED IN THE OVERALL MR AGENCY ORDINANCE. THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THAT ORDINANCE THAT PERTAINS TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, BUT EVERYTHING THE METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STILL IS IN PLACE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOTION IS FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS WE'RE ON O-68 AS AMENDED. ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KIND OF LIKE THIS BILL. I KIND OF WISH IT WAS TWO YEARS FROM NOW. ERR -- WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THE FIRST TIF. THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED. I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT OF THIS YET. I THINK IT'S TOO EARLY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GROUT TO CLOSE ON O-68 AS AMENDED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I JUST REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BUILD IN TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN OUR SYSTEM FOR CREATING THE TIF DISTRICTS. THEY HAVE A VISION FOR THE MR AREAS THAT SHOULD LIVE AS LONG AS THE TIF IS IN PLACE. I DON'T AGREE THAT WE SHOULD WAIT FOR RULES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME DOWN FROM THE STATE, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AS STRICT THAN THESE PROPOSED RULES. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHAPE THIS PROCESS NOW AND I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS ON O-68 AS AMENDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM C. R-112. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS AND CHANGING THE SCOPE OF EXISTING PROJECTS. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO OPEN. >>COUN. PEÑA: WE CAN HAVE OUR STAFF, I THINK MARK -- YOU GUYS -- >> MADAM COUNCIL PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE BIANNUAL CIP CLEAN UP BILL MOVING INTEREST BETWEEN PROJECTS WITHIN CERTAIN SCOPES, CHANGING SOME SCOPES WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT THE VOTERS HAVE VOTED ON. THIS IS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PUBLIC MEETING ALLOWING A SCOPE CHANGE WITHIN PURPOSE. AND APPROPRIATING SOME STATE GRANTS. THESE ARE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE CITY. PARKS AND RECREATION, DMD, SENIOR AFFAIRS, ET CETERA. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. BEGINNING ON PAGE TWO, LINE 13, AMEND SECTION ONE AS FOLLOWS. 22NMGRT INTEREST, STRIKE $1.7 MILLION, ADD $2.2 MILLION. ALBUQUERQUE RAIL TRAIL INTEREST, STRIKE $1.5 MILLION, ADD $1 MILLION, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE MAIN SUBSTATION $270,000. SHOOTING RANGE PARK $25,000. KEN SANCHEZ INDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX, GRT INTEREST $1 MILLION THE AMENDMENT RECALICATES $500,000 FROM RAIL TRAILS AND $500,000 FROM 2022GRT INTEREST FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR KEN SANCHEZ SPORT COMPLEX. THIS WILL FULLY FUND THE PROJECT SO IT CAN START THIS YEAR. THIS IS A PROGRAM OF LATE COUNCILOR KEN SANCHEZ. THE MAYOR SAID THIS IS A LEGACY PROJECT THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TO FRUITION, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF YEARS THIS HAS BEEN IN TALKS. I KNOW THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY WILL HAVE A PLACE TO PRACTICE AND COMPETE IN ALL TYPES OF GYM EVENTS OR SPORTS LIKE BASKETBALL, WRESTLING, VOLLEYBALL, DANCE, CHEER GROUPS. PASSING THIS BILL MEANS WE PASSED TWO BILLS THAT HELPED TWO AMAZING PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD TODAY. EARLIER, WE AGREED ON PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW MEXICO UNITED STADIUM, NOW, LET'S MOVE TO MAKE A SECOND SPORTS FACILITY A REALITY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THAT'S THE KEN SANCHEZ INDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-112. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO, WHEN I LOOK AT THE 22GRT, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL. THE OTHER PART THAT'S TAKING FUNDING FROM A PROJECT IN DISTRICT TWO THAT'S NOT FINISHED AND GIVING IT TO A PROJECT IN DISTRICT ONE THAT HASN'T BEGUN, I'D LIKE TO FINISH THINGS BEFORE WE PULL FUNDING FOR THEM. FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE AN UNDERPASS PROJECT THAT IS SITTING THERE UNDONE. ASIDE FROM THE SAFETY ISSUES WE HAVE FROM WALKING ON ONE SIDE OF CENTRAL, I'M CONSISTENTLY CALLED ABOUT PEOPLE MISSING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE RAIL RUNNER AND BUSSES BECAUSE THAT PROJECT IS STILL SITTING THERE. THAT'S PART OF THE RAIL TRAIL PROJECT. I'M COMPLETELY FINE WITH THE FIRST HALF OF THIS, THE SECOND HALF I'M A LITTLE BIACID BIASED AGAINST. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THOUGHT THE SPORTS COMPLEX WAS INCLUDED IN THE CIP ORIGINALLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU? DIRECTOR TURNER? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE CAN'T MOVE THINGS TO COMPLETELY NEW PROJECTS. IT HAS TO BE A PROJECT IN THE ORIGINAL LIST. I'M JUST ASKING WAS THIS IN THE ORIGINAL LIST? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BOND ISSUES AND GO BONDS, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE CASE. WE VOTE ON AND HAVE A PURPOSE AND INTEREST IS EARNED ON THAT. THE BOND PROCEEDS, THOSE ALWAYS GET APPLIED BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LIST. BUT THIS IS NOT GO BOND INTEREST, THIS IS GRT INTEREST. IT'S NOT GO BOND, IT'S GRT. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT YOU CAN TAKE A BRAND NEW PROJECT AND PUT MONEY TO IT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOSCOE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE 22GRT BOND PACKAGE HAD A NUMBER OF PROJECTS WITHIN IT, INCLUDING LOS ALTOS PARK, McKINLEY BIKE SHOP, FIRE STATION 12, MONZANO MESA PICKLE BALL COURT, SHOOT RANGE PARK, WHICH WE'RE TRANSFERRING $25,000 AND THE KEN SANCHEZ INDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS IN THERE. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOSCOE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I WOULD DEFER TO CIP. AS A FORMER CIP OFFICIAL, I REMEMBER A NUMBER OF AROUND $12 MILLION. TRANSFERRING THIS $1 MILLION GETS US RIGHT AROUND THAT TOTAL COST. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME. ALL OF US HAVE PUT LOT OF MONEY IN THIS OVER THE YEARS. IT'S CERTAINLY APPROPRIATE USE OF ANOTHER $1 MILLION, DIRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY OPINION ABOUT THE PROJECT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S NOT YOUR OPINION. >> IT IS APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. LEWIS: IN THIS TYPE OF FUNDING FOR IT. >> YES, SIR. THE OTHER HALF MILLION COMING FROM THE INTEREST ACCRUED, THESE BONDS ACCRUE INTEREST AND WE REPLACE THE PROJECTS, THE CAPITAL FUNDING WITH THE INTEREST TO SUPPLEMENT THE PROJECTS AND STUFF. THERE WAS AN EXTRA $589,000 UNAPPROPRIATED IN THE INTEREST. WE'RE TAKING HALF A MILLION FROM THAT AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT OF REQUESTING HALF-MAILIAN FROM RAIL TRAIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT ARE SOME OTHER SOURCES AS FAR AS THE RAIL TRAIL THAT WE LOOKED AT REVENUE SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT GOAL FUNDING FOR THE RAIL TRAIL THERE? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I WOULD DEFER TO THE ADMINISTRATION. BUT THE RAIL TRAIL IS A MULTI-YEAR MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR MULTI-PHASED PROJECT. THIS MILLION DOLLARS WOULD GET YOU ALMOST, IF NOT ENTIRELY THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE INDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE RAIL TRAIL IS ONGOING. WE WANT TO CAPTURE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. OKAY, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT HALF OF IT COULD BE TAKEN FROM THE GRT LINE. I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT USE OF FUNDS. I DO CAUTION US TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO START TAKING MONEY FROM EACH OTHER'S DISTRICTS PROJECTS. AND WHETHER OR NOT WE LIKE THE RAIL TRAIL, I PERSONALLY DO, IT'S REALLY THAT IT'S ANOTHER COUNCILOR RECEIVING THE FUNDING FOR A PROJECT IN THEIR DISTRICT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO START A PRECEDENT WHERE WE TAKE FUNDS FROM OUR COLLEAGUE'S PROJECTS. I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE SPONSOR OF THIS AMENDMENT TO JUST TAKE THE 500 FROM THE INTEREST AND LEAVE OTHER COUNCILOR'S PROJECTS ALONE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: DR. SENGEL, MR. SOURISSEAU? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WITH THIS AMENDMENT, I REALIZE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO THE OUTDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX. I KNOW MARK MOSCOE HAD FORMER NUMBERS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE RISING EVERY DAY. WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES. WE'RE NEGOTIATING NOW. WE HAVE NO GUARANTEES THIS MILLION WILL FILL THE GAPS WE HAVE AT THE OUTDOOR STORTS COMPLEX AND WE HAVEN'T STARTED BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T STARTED NEGOTIATIONS. WE DON'T KNOW THIS MONEY WILL FILL THE GAPS. WE HAVE A PROJECT IN DISTRICT TWO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FUNDING. THERE'S NO GUARANTEES THIS WILL FILL THE VOID IF WE TAKE MONEY FROM ONE PROJECT AND PUT IT IN THE OTHER PROJECT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TO CLOSE. I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS SOMETHING. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I JUST ASKED ABOUT THE FUNDING IN RESERVE. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT BECAUSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED -- WHEN YOU DO THE INITIAL -- ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL IT UP? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A WEST SIDE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IT PUTS ME IN A REALLY ODD PREDICAMENT. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM ANOTHER COUNCILOR. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REALLY STRIVE TO DO THAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE ISSUES. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR PADILLA, MR. MOSCE? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I DON'T RECOMMEND USING THAT FUNDING. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD FIT THIS CAPITAL NEED. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF I CAN ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, WITHIN THIS BUDGET, THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY YOU SEE WE CAN PULL TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS WANTING TO DO? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU. >>. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: REAL QUICKLY, WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. JUST REMEMBER, THIS PROJECT IS LOOKING AT BEING A LOT CHEAPER THAN IT ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BE. IT HAS ELEMENTS OF A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP INVOLVED. IT IS SAVING THE TAXPAYER A LOT OF MONEY, AS YOU ALL KNOW. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR PEÑA, AT THIS TIME WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND SCRUBBED AND REALIGNED. I DON'T KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER BUCKET OF MONEY THAT FITS THIS PURPOSE. I THINK THE ONLY OTHER ALTERNATIVE WE HAVE AT THIS POINT IS PERHAPS ASKING THE STATE FOR A LEGISLATIVE FUNDING TO HELP WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S MONEY ANYWHERE ELSE THAT COULD BE ALLOCATED OR APPROPRIATED. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS BILL UNTIL WE GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION MORE TIME TO IDENTIFY SOME RESOURCES. TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS DOING. I MAKE A MOTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION TO TABLE R-112. IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WITH THAT BEING TABLED, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. RA3. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES, AMENDING ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 4H, AND 2-4-9 OF CITY COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES. THESE RULE AMENDMENTS ARE CLEANING UP AND STREAMLINING OF THE PROCEDURES WE GO THROUGH. ONE OF WHICH IS, WHAT WE DID A COUPLE MEETING AGO. IT SEEMS EVERY YEAR THE CHARTER -- >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M SORRY-CATCH. HANG ON ONE SECOND. COUNCILORS, I WOULD REALLY URGE YOU TO PLEASE, IF YOU CAN NOT AEFRP LEAVE TO HAVE SIDE CONVERSATIONS. WE NEED TO HAVE OUR DECORUM WHILE ACTUAL HAS THE FLOOR. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ITES CLEANING UP AND STREAM LPINGING SOME THINGS WITHIN THE COUNCIL WITHIN FGO. AND ADDING IN ARTICLE TWO SECTION FIVE OF THE COMMITTEES AND ASSIGNING TO COMMITTEES AND ALSO WITH THE CLEANING UP OF THE PROCESS OF THE LUHO AND STREAMLINING THAT TO MATCH WHAT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES ARE. AND MOVE FOR A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR R-A3 FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. SOME OF THIS LOOKS REALLY GREAT. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT PAGE TWO. NEW SECTION THREE. THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW BILLS GET OUT OF COMMITTEE. WE HAVE SEEN IN FGO THIS YEAR QUITE A FEW TIMES WHEN WE HAD TO GO BACK AND RECONSIDER SOMETHING AND HAVE IT BE WITH NO RECOMMENDATION THAT IS GENERALLY HOW OUR COMMITTEES WORKED IS WE WANT TO GIVE BILLS A CHANCE TO GET THROUGH TO THE FULL COMMITTEE. OR TO THE FULL COUNCIL. AND I THINK I HATE THE PHRASE, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THAT SECTION IS WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF BILLS COMING THROUGH REPORTED OUT AND GET REVOLVED BY FULL COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS REALLY THE INTENTION. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU HAVE THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND THERE IS THAT MANY FOLKS THAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO STREAMLINE BILLS AND STOP SOME BILLS FROM MAKING TO THE FLOOR, BUT THERE'S ONLY NINE OF US. WE HAVE THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT MOST BILLS GET THROUGH COMMITTEE WITH A NO RECK AT LEAST AND THIS WILL CAUSE LOT TO BE REPORTED OUT AS FAILED AND WE WILL REVIVE THEM AND THERE LOOB LOT OF HOOPLA. FOR THAT REASON, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE I APOLOGIZE. I SEE YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT. YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT? >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES, I'M GOING TO PULL IT UP. THE AMENDMENT -- AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. BEGINNING ON PAGE ONE, LINE SIX. CHANGING SOME VERBIAGE. THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN STRIKING -- INSTEAD OF SAYING FIRST, IT'S SECOND REGULAR MEETING OF THE YEAR. AND JUST STRIKING OUT THE MONTH OF JANUARY. MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO CLOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED FOR RA-3. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL SAY THAT I'LL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO URGE ALL OF THE COUNCILORS, IT IS MY HIGH DREAM AND HOPE FOR THIS YEAR THAT IN COMMITTEES WE WILL STOP PASSING SO MANY THINGS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION TO FULL COUNCIL. I THINK IT WILL SHORTEN OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS. IF WE DO MORE OF THE MAKING OF THE SAUSAGE IN THE COMMITTEES. TALK ABOUT IT IN COMMITTEE, LET'S UTILIZE COMMITTEES IN THE WAY I WAS TOLD THEY WERE USED BEFORE 2020. I REALLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU. I WILL TRY TO DO THE SAME. I WILL TRY TO HAVE MY AMENDMENTS PREPARED FOR COMMITTEES. IF I HAVE AMENDMENTS, I'LL TRY TO GET IT DEFERRED IN COMMITTEE. EVERYONE WANTS TO SLOW THINGS DOWN AND EVERYPLACE EVERYONE WANTS TO GO HOME EARLIER. I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED FOR THE BILL. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP THIS YEAR AS WE PROCEED WITH COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO CLOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS OF RA3. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-HAD VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM E. COUNCILOR LEWIS. RA4. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AMENDING ARTICLE TWO SECTION FIVE AND ARTICLE THREE OF THE CITY COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO OPEN AND WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. MORROW, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE RULE AMENDMENT? >> CERTAINLY COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCILAL. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMENDMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE IS TO OUTLINE A PROCEDURER FOR CONDUCTING A PERFORMANCE REVIEW OF THE CITY ATTORNEY. ROA-2724 REQUIRES THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONDUCT A PERFORMANCE EVALUATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WITHIN 90 DAYS FOLLOWING EVERY 18-MONTH PERIOD OF CONSECUTIVE SERVICE AS CITY ATTORNEY. THERE HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONDUCT SUCH AN EVALUATION. THIS RULES AMENDMENT CREATES A NEW COMMITTEE TO BE APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR THE CONDUCT OF THAT EVALUATION. IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO HELP GUIDE THAT EVALUATION AND THEN ALLOW FOR A PRIVATE INTERVIEW WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT THE COMMITTEE FINDS ARE PERINANT TO SUCH AN EVALUATION. AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, THE COMMITTEE PRODUCES A PUBLIC REPORT BE SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE RULES ON THE CHARTER REALLY ALLOWS FOR IT, EVEN ENCOURAGES IT. THIS PUTS A PROCESS PROCEDURE TO PUT THIS IN PLACE. AND STAFF FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT. WE FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SPELL IT OUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ANAMI TO SPEAK. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. SO, I SUGGEST ONE AMENDMENT. THAT WOULD BE MAKING THE MEETING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY PUBLIC SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW THAT GOES. I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE THAT THIS RULES AMENDMENT WAS INTRODUCED AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, I SEE WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR ROGERS, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT JUST BEGINS ON PAGE ONE, LINE THREE. JUST ADDING TO THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT ESSENTIALIZES IN VALUATIONS OF HUMAN RESOURCES. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE APPOINTED FROM CITY COUNCIL BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE EXPERTISE SPECIFIC TO HR AND COMING UP WITH STRENGTH-BASED EVALUATION PROCESSES. AND THAT'S ONE THING. I HAVE A TECHNICAL QUESTION AS WELL. BECAUSE THE VOTERS PASSED SOME CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO SAY THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD ALSO DO THE SAME FOR THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND CHIEF OF FIRE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, I PREFER DISPOSE OF ONE THING AT A TIME. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >>COUN. ROGERS: THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION MAY MEAN I WILL ADD TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MAKE A MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT AND WE CAN TALK TO AMENDMENT, AND IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE AMENDMENT WE'LL TO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: CAN I ASK THE QUESTION BEFORE THE AMENDMENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: ACCORD TO THE ROBERTS RULES YOU NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION. AND THEN YOU CAN ADD TO THE MOTION. >>COUN. ROGERS: I MOVE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR LEGAL. THE VOTERS VOTED TO AMEND OUR CHARTER TO ADD CHIEF OF POLICE AND FIRE CHIEF. WOULD ADDING THAT TO OUR CHARTER, DOES IT ALSO SUBJECT TO THIS TYPE OF EVALUATION? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS NO. THAT WAS A SEPARATE VISION IN THE CHARTER. THE RULES AMENDMENT IS BASED ON THE CITY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE. IT'S PROMULGATION OF RULES RELATED TO THE EVALUATION AS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE NOT UNRELATED TO THE CHARTER. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THEN I WOULD BE FINE WITH THE AMENDMENT AS IS. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE AMENDMENT. I GUESS ASKING OUR STAFF, YOU SEE THIS IS IMPOSING ANY KIND OF LIMITATION ON THE COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRING THE COMMITTEES, QUITE OBVIOUSLY, TO SECURE A CONTRACT WITH HUMAN RESOURCES CONSULTANT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE ONEROUS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK. I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS ARE MOST EFFECTIVE, THE SIMPPLICITY WOULD BE MAKE MOST EFFECTIVE. I'M FINE WITH IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE? COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL ASAMENDED. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION -- THE POSITION THAT'S THE MOST SIMILAR TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THE CHARTER AND ENABLING LANGUAGE IS THE CITY CLERK. DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THIS TYPE REVIEW OF THE CITY CLERK AS WELL? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MORROW. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I AM UNAWARE OF AN ANALOGOUS ORD INDEPENDENCE -- ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY CLERK OFFICE. THIS IS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE REQUIRED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY ORDINANCE. WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SUCH A THING EXISTS. THE CITY COUNCIL COULD CREATE, BY ORDINANCE, A SIMILAR REQUIREMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT STRIKES ME AS INTERESTING THAT WE'RE SINGLING OUT THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THIS TYPE OF REVIEW AND NONE OF THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT PURVIEW OVER. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO COUNCILOR LEWIS -- COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR LEWIS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT ONCE WE TO THIS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AS A WHOLE. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO EVALUATIONS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD START. PERHAPS, WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET REGULAR EVALUATIONS. AS A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE, I WORKED HERE FOR THREE YEARS AND NEVER HAD AN EVALUATION. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS AND WE NEED TO KEEP GOING FOR THE REST OF THE STAFF. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WE'RE NOT SINGLING OUT ANYBODY. THE CHARTER SINGLES THIS OUT. IT'S FOLLOWING UP ON THE CHARTER AND THE ORDINANCE AND GIVEN SOME CLARITY IN THE PROCESS TO IT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THINGS IN THE CHARTER, IT SHOULD MEAN SOMETHING. SO, THIS IS JUST MAKING THAT SECTION OF THE CHARTER MEAN SOMETHING. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS AS AMENDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >>COUN. PEÑA: YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK 112. RESOLUTION 112. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REMOVE 112 FROM THE TABLE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE'RE BACK ON R-112. I BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FLOOR. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND ASK THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY HAVE AN ANY THOUGHTS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR TURNER CAN COME UP AND ADDRESS. THE ISSUE IS WE, ON THE FLY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. >> DMD CIP SHOOK OUT ALL THE COUCH CUSHIONS WORKING ON THIS CLEAN UP. ON THE FLOOR, WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO PUT MONEY ON THE TABLE AT THIS MINUTE. I DO HAVE AN IDEA, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO RESEARCH IT A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I -- I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS. I WILL NOTE THAT AS COUNCILOR BACA AND THE CFO MENTIONED THAT RAIL TRAIL IS AN ONGOING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND ANY DELAY DOES DELAY THAT PROJECT. I'M ALSO SENSITIVE TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE SPORTS COMPLEX. WITH TWO MORE WEEKS, WE MIGHT HAVE MORE LUCK WITH THE COUCH CUSHIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MAKE A MOTION FOR A TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL OF R-112. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL OF R-112. FOR TWO WEEKS. THERE'S A SECOND. TYPICALLY, A DEFERRAL WILL TAKE PRECEDENT ON THE VOTE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW CONVERSATION, JUST FOR A MOMENT, FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR LEWIS, BUT THEN -- OH, GOSH. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. THE MOTION IS FOR TWO-WEEK DEFERRAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM PRESIDENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR LEWIS, TYPICALLY SPEAKING, IS DISCUSSION ON JUST DEFERRAL ONLY? COUNCILOR LEWIS, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? >>COUN. LEWIS: YES, THANK YOU. I DON'T THINK -- I THINK THIS IS JUST A DECISION OF THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO FIND ANYTHING, AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT. I THINK IF THEY WERE CREATIVE THEY WOULD. AND WE HAVE A CAPITAL PROGRAM COMING UP THIS NEXT YEAR IN A FEW MONTHS. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE A WHOLE LOT OF DOLLARS TO PROGRAMS AND IN THIS AN ONGOING PROGRAM. IT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO CONTINUE, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT OF A DEFERRAL. I THINK IT'S A DECISION OF THE COUNCIL. TO GET A GOOD PROJECT LIKE THIS FUNDED AND DONE. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WHERE WAS -- I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DEFER THIS AT ALL. EVERYTHING IS IN THERE. IT'S A LEGACY PROJECT. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH THROUGH. I'VE GOT A BETTER DEAL WITH A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE TO HAVE A REALLY NICE FACILITY FOR THE KIDS TO PRACTICE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. I TALKED TO COUNCILOR BACA, AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY THE BILL IS SET UP TO BEGIN WITH. WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER IDEAS AS WELL. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS BILL MOVED TODAY AND TAKEN CARE OF. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. GIVEN THIS RAIL TRAIL IS A HUGE PROJECT FOR MAYOR KELLER, SPECIFICALLY, HOW DOES THE ADMINISTRATION FEEL LIKE TAKING MONEY FROM HIS LEGACY PET PROJECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, I THINK MR. SOURISSEAU SAID IT CLEARLY. TAKING FUNDING FROM A PROJECT ONGOING THAT IS IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AT DIFFERENT PHASES, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT LIKE TO SEE IT TAKEN FROM THE RAIL TRAIL AND THE DOWNTOWN AND SAWMILL AND ALL THE THE COMMUNITIES BENEFITING. THE OLD TOWN AREAS AND ALL THOSE AREAS ARE CONNECTED INTO THIS PROJECT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I ASK FOR PROCESS WISE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MOVE THE OTHER AMENDMENT BEFORE WE DEFER? >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DEFER. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE DEFERRAL, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I DID, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I THOUGHT I HEARD COUNCILOR SANCHEZ SAYING THAT COUNCILOR BACA HAD AGREED TO THE AMENDMENT. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF THAT IS ACTUALLY THE CASE. BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FOR ME IF SOMEBODY SAYS YES, TAKE MY PROJECT MONEY. THAT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE LIMITING TO THE DEFERRAL. I'M GOOD WITH NOT DOING THE DEFERRAL AND I'LL HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. COUNCILORS, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I TOO AM CONFLICTED. BOTH PROJECTS -- WELL, ACTUALLY, I DON'T REALLY CARE FOR THE RAIL TRAIL PERSONALLY. BUT I RESPECT THE FACT THIS IS A PROJECT IN COUNCILOR BACA'S DISTRICT. I KNOW THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS. I THINK IT'S A SHAME THAT WE'RE HAVING TO SIT HERE AND FIGHT OVER THESE PENNY. I KNOW WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CIP SESSION COMING UP WITH THE BILLS AND EVERYTHING SOON. SO, I AM CONFLICTED. IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A DEFERRAL MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE ON THE DEFERRAL. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD ASK THAT THE PRESIDENT ALLOW COUNCILOR BACA TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY -- IF COUNCILOR BACA, AS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SAID, IF HE AGREED TO ALLOW FOR THAT $1 MILLION TO BE REMOVED FROM HIS DIRECT, THEN THAT ALLEVIATES MY CONCERN OF TRYING TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. AND IT DOES ALLEVIATE MY CONCERN TO HAVE A DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK, THOUGH I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THIS AMENDMENT, IT IS BAD PRECEDENT TO PULL FROM DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND DISTRICTS, I WORRY ABOUT THAT. SIMULTANEOUSLY, I AM ALSO A BIG LEAVER IN LET'S GET STUFF DONE. I BELIEVE WHERE -- I SAID THAT OVER AND OVER. I THINK THERE'S WAYS FOR ALL OF US TO WORK TOGETHER ON GETTING SOME OF THESE THINGS DONE. I'M OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER AT DIFFERENT TIME AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES. IN THIS CASE, I'M OKAY WITH THIS ONE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. WITH THAT, I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE BACK ON -- THERE'S A SECOND. FROM COUNCILOR GROUT FOR WITH THE DRAW OF THE DEFERRAL. MOTION TO DEFER. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THAT. THANK YOU. SO, WE'RE BACK ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-112. ACTUALLY, COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS TO ADD TO THIS AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I HAVE ONE. I HAD A LOT OF CONCERN AS SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THE RAIL TRAIL INITIALLY, THROUGH ONE OF OUR CAPITAL BILLS, AND I THINK OUR DIRECTOR PADILLA WAS WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AT THE TIME. I REALLY FELT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO HELP WITH THE ROUTE 66. I THOUGHT IT WOULD REALLY BRING TOGETHER THAT WHOLE VISION OF LINING THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR. DURING THE CAPITAL BUDGET I PUT IN THE FIRST $10 MILLION AS AN AMENDMENT FOR THE TRAIL TRAIL. A PROJECT I TALKED TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THAT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS REALISTIC. ONCE THAT $10 MILLION AMENDMENT PASSED, AND THEN AFTER OUR CIP BILL PASSED, IT REALLY IGNITED SOME MOMENTUM BEHIND THIS. I KNOW THE GOVERNOR GAVE ANOTHER $10 MILLION. AND THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION GAVE ANOTHER $10 MILLION, WHICH REALLY PROPELLED THIS TO BE A VIABLE PROJECT. FOR ME, EVEN THOUGH I AM -- I DON'T REPRESENT THAT AREA, IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY HELP TO BRING OUR CITY -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY BACK TO LIFE BECAUSE OUR CITY IS AMAZING, BUT IT WILL HELP THE DOWNTOWN AREA. TAKING ANY MONEY FROM THAT, I HAVE LOTS OF CONCERNS. WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT, OBVIOUSLY I'M A WEST SIDER. I BELIEVE WE DON'T GET OUR FAIR SHARE OF THE CAPITAL BILL, JUST BY SURE -- NOT A MATTER OF EQUITY, BUT NUMBERS, YOU HAVE MORE COUNCILORS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER THAN YOU DO ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER. WITH COUNCILOR BACA'S ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT HE'S OKAY WITH IT, I WILL RELUCTANTLY SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ TO CLOSE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY. THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, GOOD FOR THE WEST SIDE. IT'S GOING TO HELP ALL THREE OF US COUNCILORS, EVEN COUNCILOR BACA AND PROBABLY THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY. I THINK THIS IS A CITYWIDE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY BENEFIT FOR THE YOUTH OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOTION IS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO R-112. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR ROGERS, FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MY FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO IS INCREASING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM BY $20,000 TO FULLY FUND THE BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE NEW MEXICO CONTRACT. THIS IS ONE OF THE CONTRACTS TO BE FINISHED FOR FY25. THEY DID GET THE EMAIL ABOUT FY26 DOLLARS. BUT THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING FOR FY25. I HAVE REQUESTED THE DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE THEIR FUNDING. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. AND I FAILED TO DO THAT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE. I TRUSTED THE DEPARTMENT WOULD DO IT. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT AT ALL FOR FY25. I KNOW IT IS ROUTED FOR SIGNATURES. IT'S AN EASY CHANGE TO FIX IT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR GROUT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD. THE BUDGET PROCESS IS SO INTERESTING. I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION CHANGED AND PASSED OUT THE LETTER TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO STILL WANTED TO PARTICIPATE. BUT AS WE DID THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE HAVE A LIST. SINCE YOU WERE NEW TO COUNCIL, THE LIST FROM THE PRIOR COUNCIL TRANSFERRED OVER TO EACH OF THE NEW COUNCILORS WHO CAME INTO EFFECT. WHAT WE DID DURING THAT PROCESS IS THE THAT COUNCILOR ACTUALLY TICK THE ONES THAT THEY WANTED TO GET FUNDED. IF ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN THAT SPONSORSHIP LIST DID NOT GET FUNDED IT WAS BECAUSE THE COUNCILOR DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE. I'M HAPPY TO RECTIFY THAT. I WOULD JUST SAY TO THE NEW COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALLY LOOK AT EACH AND EVERY ONE. IT'S REALLY A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE OUR COUNCIL SPONSORSHIP LIST, AFTER EVERY COUNCILOR LEAVES THE COUNCIL, YOU MAY NOT SEE THOSE AS YOUR PRIORITY AND YOU COME IN WITH A WHOLE NEW IDEA OF ANOTHER LIST OF SPONSORSHIPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THAT HAPPENS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE WE'RE LIMITED ON MONEY WE HAVE TO MAKE NECESSARY CUTS. IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW THE SPONSORSHIP THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. THAT'S A DECISION FOR THE BODY TO MAKE LETTER. TO REALLY LOOK AT IDENTIFYING WHETHER WE WANT TO INCREASE SPONSORSHIPS. I THINK WE SHOULD. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNTY HAS A MUCH LARGER AMOUNT. THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT DURING THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENTS? THIS IS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. I WILL SAY -- I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. MOSCOE. HOW MUCH MONEY AVAILABLE FUNDS IS IN THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW FOR YOU? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M LEARNING ACCOUNTING SPEAK. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT WITH A STRAIGHT ANSWER. HOWEVER, IN THE PUBLISHED AROUND 24th OF JANUARY, AS OF JUNE 30th, 2024 FUND BALANCE OF THE GENERAL FUND -- UNASSIGNED BALANCE WAS $26.7 MILLION. 3.4% OF THE TOTAL GENERAL FUND OF $781.3 MILLION. AS COUNCIL WILL REMEMBER, THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY25 CAME IN, WE HAD A $20 MILLION OVERERAGE. THAT WOULD LEAD TO $6.8 MILLION FUND BALANCE. YOU ALSO HEARD CITY ECONOMIST REPORT THAT THE FY25 BUDGET ALSO INCLUDED A 2.1% GRT EXPECTED COLLECTION INCREASE FROM 2024. AND WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING ON A DELTA 3.4%. THERE'S ANOTHER PERCENTAGE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY CERTAINLY TO COVER THIS $20,000 IN THE FUND BALANCE. WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD DEFER TO MR. SOURISSEAU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO ALL OF THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IT'S LATE. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD. I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S NOT $26 MILLION IN A FUND BALANCE AVAILABLE. I BELIEVE IT'S CLOSER TO TWO. I THINK WE'RE MIXING UNASSIGNED WITH -- >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. SOURISSEAU, CAN YOU BE A LITTLE LOUDER PLEASE? I'M SORRY. I DON'T MEAN TO ANNOY YOU. I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS QUESTION. >> THIS IS $20,000 COMING OUT OF FUND BALANCE. I'M NOT GOING TO SPLIT HAIRS OVER 11:30. >>COUN. BASSAN: AGAIN, I'M SORRY TO IMPOSE ON YOUR DAY. MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK WE ARE -- THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ASK IS WHAT MR. SOURISSEAU IS CONCERNED ABOUT. WE'RE CLOSER TO MAYBE $2 MILLION IN OUR FUND BALANCE. BUT THE $26 MILLION NUMBER WAS MORE RELATED TO UNALLOCATED -- UNASSIGNED DOLLARS. SO, JUST THINK IT'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING NUMBERS ACCURATE THIS LATE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCURATE OURSELVES. >>COUN. BASSAN: I APPRECIATE THAT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT IT'S LATE. WE HAVE WORK TO DO. SORRY. I DON'T THINK WE'VE DRAGGED THIS ON INTENTIONALLY. JUST TO ORCHER -- MR. SOURISSEAU, THAT WAS DISRESPECTFUL. THAT'S REALLY SAD THAT JUST HAPPENED. COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK THE POINT FOR US IS NOW WE HAVE $20,000 IN FUND BALANCE TO COVER THIS. I URGE A DO PASS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, THE MOTION IS FOR A DO PASS OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO R-112. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL OF R-112 AS AMENDED. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I AM SORRY TO SAY, BUT MADAM CAO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO ALSO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS BILL. I DON'T MEAN TO BELABOR ANYTHING. I DID NOTICE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO BALLOON FIESTA PARK IN HERE. I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT EXACTLY THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE GOING FOR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK WE CAN ASK DIRECTOR TURNER TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE PROJECT RELATED TO THE VENDOR ROW AND THE UTILITIES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION REGARDING THE FUNDS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVED OVER FROM THE SOFTWARE FACILITY. OVER TO BALLOON FIESTA PARK. THE SHORT ANSWER IS BALLOON FIESTA PARK HAS A NUMBER OF REALLY CRITICAL CAPITAL NEEDS INCLUDING RESTROOMS AND THE ELECTRIFICATION OF VENDOR'S ROW. ESPECIALLY VENDOR'S ROW IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR EVERYONE TO GET RID OF THE EXTENSION CORDS. SO, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THESE FUNDS IMMEDIATELY, LIKE AS IN TOMORROW, TO BENEFIT BALLOON FIESTA BARK FOR EVERYONE VISITING THE PARK. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MR. MOSCOE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER WITH IRBs, SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES ARE GOING INTO THE STADIUM AND THE MULTI-USE SOCCER FACILITY AND BALLOON FIESTA PARK AS INCIDENTALS THIS MONEY MOVES $2.8 MILL YP -- INTO DIRECTOR TURNER SAID ABOUT MORE INTO THE PARK ITSELF. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR FOR THAT. AND CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME, MADAM CAO, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GATEWAY AND MOVING FUNDING OVER FOR THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE REFER TO THE RIGHT ONE. ARE YOU -- WHICH LINE ITEM? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. MOSCEO, DO YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR THE FUNDS IN THE CIP BILL THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY USED AT THE GATEWAY? >> MADAM COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ON PAGE TWO, LINE 10, GIBSON HEALTH HUB INFRASTRUCTURE THE PROJECT INTEREST AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THE BONDS EARN INTEREST. THIS IS REASSIGNING $294,000 OF PROJECT INTEREST BACK INTO THE PROJECT. YKT SPEAK ABOUT WHICH PROJECTS ARE GOING TO GET APPROVED. MADAM CAO. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN DIRECTOR TURNER TO JOIN ME. I ALSO KNOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE NEEDS ACROSS ALL OF THE FACILITIES WHICH WE'RE PROVIDING SHELTERING. SPECIFICALLY, THAT LINE IS TO FOCUS IN ON FINISHING OUT INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT ARE PENDING AT THE GATEWAY CENTER ON GIBSON. AND IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM -- WE HAVE LONG LIST. I DON'T WANT TO MISS THE LONG LIST OF IMPROVEMENTS AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION ISSUES THAT ARE FOCUSED. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR TURNER. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I THINK THE CAO SPOKE ABOUT IT VERY WELL AS WELL AS DEPUTY DIRECTOR MOSCOE. THIS MONEY WAS FOR THE GATEWAY, AND IT KEEPS TO THE GATEWAY. AS WE'VE DONE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WHICH I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE RIBBON CUTTINGS, WE'VE DISCOVERED LONG-STANDING ISSUES WITH THE HVAC SYSTEM. THERE'S A LOT OF AGING AINFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T HAVE A LINE ITEM TO SAY, $100,000 FOR THIS OR NOT, BUT IT'S TO ADDRESS LONG-STANDING ISSUES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU THE KEYWORD IS THIS IS TAKING FROM THE GATEWAY AND PUTTING IT BACK INTO THE GATEWAY. I'VE SAID REPEATEDLY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GOING TO SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS IN THE GATEWAY, I DON'T AGREE TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? WE ARE ON R-112. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WE'RE MOVING TO OTHER BUSINESS. COUNCILORS, THIS EVENING WE HAVE TO MOVE INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO THE EPA COMPLAINT NUMBERS, O4 AND O-24-R-6 AND O46 SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE TO THE THREATENED OR LITIGATION BY NMSA1978-SECTION 10H7. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION JUST IN CASE BECAUSE IF WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE RUN OUT OF TIME AND WE CAN'T DO OUR DISCLAIMER, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT. IMUNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS SHOULD TAKE APPROXIMATELY 20 MINUTES. JUST IN CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 12:30. THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILORS, GOING TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION IN THE BACK. WE'LL BE BACK SHORTLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: WELL-WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. I AFFIRM THAT MATTERS DISCUSSED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WERE LIMITED TO THOSE SPECIFIED IN THE MOTION FOR CLOSURE. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.