This transcript is from the Farmington City Council meeting on December 4, 2023. Note that while your context list (from 2026) identifies Nick Lien as Mayor, at the time of this 2023 recording, **Joshua Hoy** was serving as Mayor and **Nick Lien** was a Councilmember. [0:03] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** [Music] We'll call the city council regular meeting to order for Monday, December 4th, 2023. Would everyone please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance? [0:58] **Group:** I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [1:05] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Call the roll, please. Mayor Hoy? **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Here. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Bernatz? **Holly Bernatz:** Here. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Lien? **Nick Lien:** Here. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Porter? **Katie Porter:** Here. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Wilson? **Steve Wilson:** Here. [1:24] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. Unless there's any changes to the agenda, we'd look for a motion to approve. **Katie Porter:** So moved. **Steve Wilson:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Katie, second by Steve. All in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. Moving on, item number six, is there citizen comments? If there's anyone in attendance wishing to speak at this time? If not, we'll move on to item seven, which is our consent agenda. We look for a motion to approve the consent agenda. **Steve Wilson:** I make a motion. **Holly Bernatz:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Steve, second by Holly. All in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. [1:55] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. Moving on, we'll move to item eight, which is our public hearings. The next item on the agenda is item 8.1, and this is a public hearing for the 2024 final tax levy and budget. I'd like to go and open the public hearing at this time, and it's all yours. [2:08] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Okay. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, this evening the 2024 proposed general fund budget and tax levy is being presented for your review and requested adoption. All the information presented tonight is pretty much the same as it was in September when you adopted the preliminary levy, with the exception of one change which will be addressed early on in the presentation. [2:36] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Just to review, the city's budget is developed over the course of several months. The budget process begins mid-year around May, and in September the preliminary budget is adopted by Council. When the preliminary tax levy is adopted, it sets the maximum tax levy; the final levy can be less but not more than the preliminary levy. In November, property owners received a proposed tax statement from the county. The information printed on that statement is based on the preliminary tax levy that was set. Since setting the preliminary levy in September, staff has continued to review and update budgets. Tonight, the proposed final levy and budget are being presented for consideration by Council. [3:24] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** So, as I mentioned in the introduction, there's only one change in the budget from September, and that is additional funding has been secured by staff allowing the tax levy to be reduced by $300,000. With the change to the proposed final net levy, it results in a 9.87% increase versus the preliminary 12.23% increase that was approved in September. As shown in the previous slide, the 2024 proposed final net levy is an increase of 9.87% from 2023. [4:08] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Shown at the very bottom of this slide, the general fund expenditures increased 11.8% from 2023 for a total of approximately 18.9 million. The total budgeted general fund revenues for 2024 are nearly 4.7 million, which is a 23.5% increase from 2023. Fiscal disparities, which is a wide program to balance the development of commercial industrial growth, decreased almost 13% from 2023. So, starting with the general fund expenditures and then subtracting the general fund revenues and fiscal disparities, we arrive at the general operating levy of 12 million. In addition to the operating levy, then we add in the EDA levy and the debt levy to arrive at the total net tax levy of 14 million. [4:54] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** In addition to tax levy and fiscal disparities, there are a variety of other revenue sources supporting the general operations. This slide provides a summary of those revenue categories budgeted in 2024 as compared to 2023. Revenues that are budgeted to increase include governmental revenue, charges for service, miscellaneous revenue, and transfers from other funds. License and permits and investment income are the two revenue categories that have been budgeted to decrease in 2024. [5:39] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** The graph on this slide shows that property taxes provide the primary support for general fund operations. Property taxes account for about 75% of all general fund revenues, the next largest being transfers from other funds at 12%, and approximately 4% each for intergovernmental revenues, charges for service, and license and permits. Miscellaneous revenues, fines and forfeits, and interest earnings making up less than 1% of the total revenues. [6:15] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Overall, general fund expenditures have been budgeted to increase 11.84%. With the exception of Dakota Broadband, which has been disbanded, all departmental budgets are proposed to increase. Later in the presentation, we'll review some of the major items that are included in these expenditure budgets, and that's basically information that has been provided for you in September. [6:37] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Here again is another graph similar to the one for general fund revenues, which shows general fund expenditures by source. The largest portion of the general fund operations (42%) is budgeted for Public Safety, which is made up of both the police and fire departments. Public Works, which is shown in green, includes engineering, street maintenance, and snow removal, and totals nearly 16% of the total budgeted expenditures. General government, which includes administration, city council, human resources, elections, communications, and finance, makes up almost 15% of the budget. Parks and Rec and transfers to other funds each total approximately 10% of the total general operating expenditures, and Community Development, which accounts for planning and zoning and building inspection activities, is nearly 8%. [7:34] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Priorities previously identified by City Council include quality business growth and retention, community engagement, infrastructure support, and employee engagement, culture, and wellness. The next few slides will highlight expenditures included in the budget that support these priorities. This would be similar to what you saw in September. [7:59] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** One of the Council's priorities is quality business growth and retention, so included in the 2024 budget is a levy of 150,000 specifically for economic development along with enhanced programming to support current business and attract new business. Community engagement is another Council priority; the proposed budget includes items to enhance programming to better communicate and engage with Farmington residents and businesses. A third priority of Council is infrastructure support. The 2024 budget includes funding for maintenance of city streets, trails, sidewalks, and buildings. Also included are technology upgrades that will improve efficiency, the purchase of equipment for multiple departments, and the management of EAB. [9:06] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** The final priority of Council is employee engagement, culture, and wellness. The 2024 budget includes improving pay plans to be more competitive, allowing the city to attract and retain talented staff, add a few new positions (two in Public Works and a halftime grant writer), fund the rising costs of insurance for employees, and increased employee training. [9:33] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** In preparing for this presentation, I reviewed information on the Minnesota Department of Revenue's website which indicated that the preliminary gross levies reported by all cities across Minnesota was an average of 8.4% increase from 2023. In September, Farmington had approved an 8.24%, so you're right in line with that average. That was that percentage that was reported on the back of proposed property tax statements that were distributed by Dakota County. If approved as proposed this evening, the city's final gross levy would be reduced to 6.26% increase from 2023. [10:19] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Fiscal disparities is subtracted from the gross levy to arrive at the net levy (the amount of taxes that property owners ultimately pay). As a result of the 6.26% increase in the gross levy and a 12.86% decrease in the fiscal disparities that the city will receive in 2024, the increase to the net levy is 9.87%. As mentioned previously, this is in comparison to the preliminary net levy that was approved in September, which was 12.23%. The resulting proposed tax rate of all this is 45%. [11:00] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** As shown in the last slide, the proposed 2024 tax rate is 45%. In 2015, the tax rate was 61%. This indicates the growth in property values exceeds the growth in property taxes. The percentage of city taxes being paid by property owners in comparison to the property values is less today than what it was in 2015. Information obtained from the Dakota County Assessor's office indicates that the average taxable market value of the 6,599 residential homestead properties in Farmington was 354,000 at the beginning of 2023. This is a 4.43% increase from the previous year. Based on the average residential homestead property previously valued at 339,000, with a 4.43% increase in value, the property now valued at 354,000 will see $139 increase per year or $12 per month in the city portion of their property taxes based on the proposed final levy. This is in comparison to 173 that was adopted with the preliminary levy in September. [12:12] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** This slide shows the various taxes paid by the owner of the average residential homestead property. Over the past five years, the proportion has remained pretty consistent with the majority of property taxes (approximately 47%) going to the school district, followed by 35% to the city, 16% to Dakota County, and 2% to special districts. Just to note that the 2024 amounts on the slide for the other taxing authorities are of course just based on their preliminary levies, which could ultimately change if they lowered their final levies as well. [12:53] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** In addition to the general fund, which has been the primary focus of tonight's presentation, it's worth mentioning that the city maintains a number of other funds for which budgets are adopted, and those funds are listed here. Action that's being requested tonight is: one, to accept public input if any from property owners in attendance; also to adopt the resolution setting the final levy to be collected in 2024 and to approve all budgets for 2024. This concludes the presentation for this evening unless you have any questions for staff. [13:17] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Thank you, ma'am. Any questions? Steve? [13:20] **Steve Wilson:** Um, no, Kim. I would just thank you for the nice presentation. I like that your presentation specifically tied in our Council goals with how the budget aligns with that. You know, I just want to compliment my peers on that piece of it. I think that's something we, and really the rest of the staff, spent a lot of time trying to do. You know, it's not just setting a number; it's having a kind of a game plan or a strategy behind it. Um, you know, am I super excited that the average increase is, you know, still 9.87%? I'm not. But I do appreciate the fact that we are doing I think really good things with that change and we're also solving problems that have kind of been left untouched in the past that we're saying, "Yep, this is a priority," like the trees and getting that taken care of. So, appreciate it. Thank you. [14:12] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Katie? [14:13] **Katie Porter:** Um, I would echo my appreciation. Councilmember Wilson said it very well that you tied in Council priorities with the budget breakdown. And with that breakdown as well, just the different percentages that go to County versus School District versus City—I think a lot of people don't necessarily understand that aspect of the breakdown, as well as: what is the average household? What does that look like monthly with your increase? Because I think we see that big number, or you know, we see the big increase as far as a percentage goes, but breaking that down monthly... And then I do also have to thank you for including the Minnesota Department of Revenue average for each city because I actually looked at that chart myself just right before the meeting here. And was pleasantly—it's one of those bittersweet things, right—pleasantly surprised to see that we are aligned with a lot of the other cities, but unfortunate, like Steve said, that it's at that percentage. So, but I very much appreciate the information you presented and I think we've done our due diligence. So thanks, Kim. [15:28] **Kim Sommerland (Finance Director):** Thank you. [15:29] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Holly? [15:30] **Holly Bernatz:** Um, I don't have anything new to add but great presentation. I think it provides an awesome synopsis of the work that's been done. A thank you to the department heads and all of the people that put in work to bring forth the numbers and the information that we need to get to where we are, so that we are operating with a full understanding of what's needed in order to provide the core services that our city expects. Um, you know, we're residents too, and so it's not something that we arbitrarily put out without fully recognizing that we and our neighbors and our families are feeling the impact of this as well. But to the point that's already been made, I believe that these are dollars that are well invested in key people and things that need to happen in order to move the city forward. Thank you. [16:26] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Nick? [16:27] **Nick Lien:** I think you guys said it all already but great presentation. And I believe, you know, this is spending a—what's the phrase I'm looking for? I don't know—we're spending our pennies now to save our dollars later. That's what it was. Um, like I said, you guys have put a lot of good data in front of us and I really appreciate that. It's not just throwing money into the air. You guys have throttled us with saying, "This is what we're capable of doing with this money," and not asking for too much because you know what your staff is capable of completing in the time with the money you're given. So, not much heartburn on me from that perspective. So appreciate all the hard work. [17:02] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Yeah, to come in when you did during the year, kind of take over for Chris and you know, already have inherited a preliminary and then have to you know, come in and get it all finalized... Um, you know, first and foremost, thank you. Thank you for being able to come in and do it as quickly as you did but as efficiently as you did. And also to have a clear understanding of where we want to go with it, what our intention was. Not just from Council but you know, working together within the team to know how we wanted to properly allocate those dollars. [17:41] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** There was one slide in there about the tax rate that you know, just again to clarify is that, you know, at least in my five years I've seen it continue to drop even though there's been incremental increases in the valuations. That big drop last year that looked like a little bit of a tick up this year in tax rate... you know, we had a 19% I think across Farmington, 19% increase in property values. That wasn't as big this year. So, you know, sometimes you get involved in all the conversations throughout the year and you—I don't want to say you lose track—but you forget about what the net impact is. And you know, you're following through as best you can, but for some reason like when we get to this point, I always have this like manifest in my head that it's so much bigger than it is. And it's not. [18:28] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** It really is a testament to tightening things where we can tighten them, being you know, very diligent about the decisions that we're making, but also not putting off the work that needs to be done tomorrow to try and meet a percentage point. And just, that's commending my peers for saying it in January and February when we committed to our goals, going through all the work sessions, all the discussion, to our team bringing everything forward, bringing us the worst truth, having those hard conversations, and being able to make a decision that ultimately puts a number that allows us to take care of the work that we've said we wanted to get done but do it in a way that's palatable and not so over-the-top overwhelming. So a huge thank you to everybody for that. [19:19] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** This is a public hearing, so this would be a time if residents want to speak on the tax levy, you're so inclined. If you don't want to, you don't have to, but it is a public hearing so if you want to... [19:35] **Gladys Stuber (Resident):** Can I just start from here? [19:37] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Uh, can we ask you to come up here? That way anyone that's sitting at home could hear your comment or question. Yeah, yeah, you're good, you're good. [19:46] **Gladys Stuber (Resident):** First of all, my name is Gladys Stuber. I've never done this before and I'm nervous as can be. [19:53] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** You can see nobody's watching. You're okay. [19:57] **Gladys Stuber (Resident):** I'm just curious about how you decide on who's going to pay what for taxes. Because as she had just said, for a medium house of 354,000, they're paying 1,600. My little house—I live in a townhouse in Charleswood—is supposedly estimated at 254,000 and I'm paying 3,000. And I'm trying to figure out why the discrepancy. That's a lot of money difference. [20:25] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Can I answer that real quick? The line that she shows, we use a median valuation across the community to kind of give you a baseline. If your property is—we'll say 250, not 350—the number that we show in 1500 is your *city* portion. So on the front page of your tax statement, it's going to break it down into like six different lines. It'll have the district, Met Council, the county... the one that says "Municipality City of Farmington"—if you carry that all the way to the right, your number's probably in that 1,200 range, 1,250ish. And if Kim can even point that out for you... that's a city portion right there. So what we're illustrating is that our levy only has control over the *city's* portion of your total taxes. So the school district does their thing, the county does theirs, Met Council does theirs; there's other lines that they all vote on and have authority for. That line—the City of Farmington—only controls that singular line. So you may see your city taxes go up a little bit, but depending on where your valuation is and or other taxing entities, the bottom line total payable could move either way. It could go up or down depending on kind of what everybody else does. If that makes sense. [21:52] **Gladys Stuber (Resident):** So that explains it? Okay. Just doesn't seem fair to a retired old lady. What can I say? [21:59] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** It's a great question, and it's one that we engage our peers now—not only at the district, but we talk to our commissioner at the county, and everybody tries to get an idea of where everyone's going to be so that it's not a big surprise. We're all working from the same pot, we'll say, right? We're all working from the same group of residents. [22:24] **Gladys Stuber (Resident):** I just—I found it interesting because I talked to—I have a lot of friends that live in Apple Valley and they said, "There's no way you can be paying that much in taxes when you live in that small townhouse." And I go, "Well, welcome to Farmington." Why I want to move! But anyway, okay. You at least explained it. Thank you. Thank you for letting me voice my frustrations. [22:45] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** No, thank you for the question. We appreciate it, for coming to us. Absolutely. You did great, you did all good. Uh, again it is a public hearing so there's anyone else that would like to speak? All right, seeing none, seeing no additional comment then I will close the public hearing at this time. Is there any other comment, question, or deliberation by Council? All right, then I would look for a motion to adopt resolution R76-23 approving the 2023 final tax levy and approving the 2024 budgets. **Steve Wilson:** Motion to approve. **Nick Lien:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Steve, second by Nick. Call the roll please. [23:42] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Bernatz? **Holly Bernatz:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Lien? **Nick Lien:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Porter? **Katie Porter:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Wilson? **Steve Wilson:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Mayor Hoy? **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Yes. Thank you, ma'am. [24:02] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. The next item on our agenda is 8.2, which is the 2024 fee schedule. And again, this agenda item is a public hearing so I'd like to go ahead and open the public hearing for the 2024 fee schedule at this time. And Shirley, this one's yours. [24:26] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** It's okay with you, I'll take it from right here. The schedule in your packet reflects changes proposed by management for 2024. Amendments include some fees for Rambling River Center, the Arena, an increase for park development fees, some building permit fees, Public Works language clarification and some rate increases. Police Services—just some language clarifications. And then Administration—some fees there for, like the peddler/solicitor, we're removing the six-month option; it's the one-year option and increasing that fee a little bit. Removing the dog license fee and gambling investigation fee. And staff is looking for your approval of the 2024 fee schedule. [25:12] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. Thank you, ma'am. Any questions? We'll go the other way. Nick? **Nick Lien:** No questions for me. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Holly? **Holly Bernatz:** I have none. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Katie? [25:31] **Katie Porter:** So, um, I know that we have these answers in front of us, John, but just because the most notable in my opinion, if I were not on the council and I didn't have the details, would be obviously the utility rates increase. Um, I mean my household probably about $25 extra per quarter, which people—it's enough that people will likely notice. So I was just going to ask that you so kindly maybe break it down just a little bit, some of the requirements that we saw. And I apologize if this is redundant or if I'm putting you on the spot, but I do think it's important to break down for residents. [26:08] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** Mayor and councilmembers. So as you may recall, we had a utility rate study completed earlier this year. It looked at a 10-year projection. So that utility rate study took into account our operating costs as well as the projects that we anticipate doing over that 10-year period. If we look at it in three primary areas: starting with the water fund, our water fund is in very good shape. The proposed increase for 2024, I believe 1% was recommended, and that's what's provided here. That reflects that the rates that we've charged in the past have kept up with costs and we don't see any significant spikes. That does anticipate that we'll be doing significant water storage in the near future. [26:55] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** The second area of increase was storm sewer rates, and that was 7 and 3/4%. And um, that's reflecting—part of that is the fact that the city's committed to undertaking surface water management maintenance projects each year for the 5-year CIP period. That's reflected in there as well as any other operating and maintenance costs. [27:23] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** The big one is the sanitary sewer, and that's going up. The percentages vary, but depending on the component, it goes anywhere from 15% up to about 23% increase. Please keep in mind that about 75 to 80% of our budget are fees to the Metropolitan Council for wastewater treatment. So that's the biggest share of our sanitary sewer budget. In the past, we have not been keeping up with their rate increases. So coming into 2023 and going into 2024, we're around 11 or 12% increase in our cost to the Met Council. We're revising our sanitary sewer rates upward in order to account for those increases that we expect to get from the Met Council. And that hasn't happened in the past, and that's why we see a significant jump in sanitary going into 2024. [28:16] **Katie Porter:** And then any—sorry, any note on the street light utility? [28:19] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** The street light utility was keeping pace and so that increase—I didn't look, I think we had 3% in there. Just basically a slight inflation factor that was applied there. That was not included in the utility rate study, but we looked at how the revenue was balancing with our cost and it was very close. But 3% allows us to anticipate, to account for any labor, utility, energy-type increases. That's primarily what that is. [28:51] **Katie Porter:** So is this respective to our two suppliers being Dakota Electric and Xcel Energy or is this... am I way off? [28:59] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** Uh, no street light utility—we don't have an equal number of street lights in DEA and Xcel. In fact, I think to guess I'd say most are in the Xcel area. But we looked at a macro level as to whether revenue coming in through the street light utility was keeping up with our overall costs. Generally it was, so we applied just a very small inflation factor of 3%. [29:19] **Katie Porter:** Okay. Thank you, John. I appreciate it. [29:21] **John Powell (Public Works Director/City Engineer):** Certainly. [29:22] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Steve? **Steve Wilson:** No comments. No questions or comments. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. I don't have any questions. Um, again because this is a public hearing, if there are any residents in attendance that would like to speak on the matter, feel so inclined. All right, seeing none, then we will close the public hearing. Any other questions for our team and/or Shirley regarding the fee schedule? All right, seeing none, then I want to read the motion in its entirety. Then I would look for a motion to approve the 2024 fee schedule and pass ordinance 023-779 establishing charges and fees for licenses, permits, and other City approvals and services for calendar year 2024. **Katie Porter:** Motion. **Holly Bernatz:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Katie, second by Holly. Call the role please. [30:14] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Lien? **Nick Lien:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Porter? **Katie Porter:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Wilson? **Steve Wilson:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Mayor Hoy? **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Bernatz? **Holly Bernatz:** Yes. [30:26] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. Our next agenda item is 8.3, which is the 2024 liquor license renewals. And this would be our last public hearing agenda item, so I'd like to go ahead and open the public hearing for the 2024 liquor license renewals at this time. Shirley. [30:43] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** So all required applications, fees, and insurance for the 2024 liquor license renewals have been received. All have been reviewed and approved by the Police Chief. Council approval is requested for renewal of the licenses as listed in your packet. [31:04] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Thank you, ma'am. Any questions? Nick? Holly? Katie? Steve? All right, I don't have any questions for you. Again, this is a public hearing, if there's anyone in attendance that would like to speak on the matter. All right, seeing none, I will go ahead and close the public hearing at this time. And if there's no additional questions or comments, then I would seek a motion to approve the listed liquor license renewals for 2024. **Holly Bernatz:** Motion. **Steve Wilson:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Holly, second by Steve. Call the role please. [31:30] **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Porter? **Katie Porter:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Wilson? **Steve Wilson:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Mayor Hoy? **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Bernatz? **Holly Bernatz:** Yes. **Shirley Buecksler (City Clerk):** Councilmember Lien? **Nick Lien:** Yes. [31:43] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** All right. That concludes our public hearings. Moving on to new business, our items here are in closed session, so I'd look for a motion to go to closed session to discuss the PFAS settlement. **Katie Porter:** Motion. **Holly Bernatz:** Second. **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Motion by Katie, second by Holly. All in favor say aye. **Council:** Aye. [32:02] **Mayor Joshua Hoy:** Mayor, if you could—or, I will read the specific Minnesota statute part that we have written out. So, the City Council will enter into a closed session pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.05, subdivision 3B, for a confidential attorney-client privilege discussion of potential PFAS litigation, AFFF Multi-District Litigation number 2873, including potential participation in the 3M and DuPont settlements. All right. [Music]