>>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COUNCILORS. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE 46th MEETING OF THE 24 THD COUNCIL FOR ALBUQUERQUE. I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. SOME ARE RUNNING A FEW MINUTES LATE. THEY WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY. WE HAVE ENOUGH COUNCILORS TO CONSTITUTE A QUORUM. I WANT TO ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE. IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, AND TO THE PUBLIC. I WOULD LIKE TO NOW MOVE ON TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH. I ASK THE VICE-CHAIR, COUNCILOR GIBSON, TO LEAD US. >>COUN. GIBSON: JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. >>ALL: I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I ALSO MOVE TO OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN SPANISH. I THINK COUNCILOR BASSAN IS ON. CAN YOU LEAD US IN THAT? >>COUN. BASSAN: MY PLEASURE. [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I NEED TO READ SOME INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD FOR THE PUBLIC. AS WAS NOTED IN A PRESS RELEASE FROM OUR OFFICE ON FRIDAY AND POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND NOTED ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA, THIS MEETING HAS SPECIAL PROCEDURES IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING LIVE THROUGH FOUR PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THEY CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES AND TABLETS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTION AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE SERVICES AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. FOR THOSE WATCHING ON THE LIVE STREAM THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETING WILL REMAIN VIEWABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS WHICH ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY AND ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 1 P.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE WILL MOVE TO OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROCLAMATIONS OR PRESENTATIONS TODAY. WE'LL DISPENSE WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE. WE DO NOT HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. WE'LL DISSPENCE WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH I WILL SEND OVER TO MR. MOYA, OUR MEDIA ADVISOR. I'LL READ SOME COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE INTO THE RECORD. I WANT TO WELCOME YOU THIS AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE ALSO HAVE WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT PER THE INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE FRIDAY. SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME. THEY WILL REMAIN MUTED WITH THE CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY'RE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK AT WHICH POINT THEY TURN ON CAMERA AND UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO COUNCIL. AFTER THAT THEY WILL BE MUTED AND RETURN TO BE AN ATTENDEE OF THE WEBINAR. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE CLRZ ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. WOULD YOU PLEASE COMMENCE WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BRIAN. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU PRESIDENT, AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW MEXICO BUILDING TRADES COUNSEL. WE REPRESENT 15 CONSTRUCTION CRAFT UNIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE WITH OVER 11,000 CONSTRUCTION CRAFT PROFESSIONALS IN OUR RANKS. WE HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORT OF THE PL ORDINANCE. IT'S STRONG FEELING THAT CONSTRUCTION CRAFTS PROFESSIONALS DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED UNDER CONTRACT SIMILAR TO BUSINESSES, CONTRACTORS, GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS. YOU'LL HEAR TODAY THAT IS A FUNCTION OF DEPARTMENT OF WORKFORCE SOLUTION. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE THE FACT THAT THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ACTUALLY HAS TWO LABOR LAW ADMINISTRATORS TO COVER THE ENTIRE STATE. WHICH IS NOT SUFFICIENT. WE HAVE PENDING LAWSUITS ON THIS CLASSIFICATION AND WAGE UNDERPAYMENT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK FROM THE ART PROJECT. THIS PLA WILL ALLOW US TO IDENTIFY ANY DISCREPANCIES IN PAY OR BENEFITS EARLY ON AND GET THEM RESOLVED WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT THE YEARS IT TAKES TO SOLVE ONE OF THE MATTERS. THE OTHER THING YOU MAY HEAR IS WITH THE GENESIS DECISION AT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THERE IS NO UNION SECURITY CLAUSE IN THE GOVERNMENT MANDATED OR APPROVED PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. IF YOU HEAR THAT, IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE IN THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH EACH OF YOU NOR WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JASON. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I'M JASON, I REPRESENT THE MECHANICAL CONTRACTOR'S ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO WHICH REPRESENTS THE UNIQUE NEEDS OF CONSTRUCTION FIRMS IN THE HEATING, REFRIGERATION, PIPING AND MECHANICAL SERVICE AND THE SHEET METAL AND AIR CONDITIONER CONTRACTORS OF NEW MEXICO WHICH REPRESENT SHEET METAL AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS JUST TO SAY THAT BOTH ASSOCIATIONS STAND IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JEFF. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME IS JEFF, I'M THE BUSINESS MANAGER FOR IRON WORKERS. WE'RE IN STRONG SUPPORT ALONG WITH THE OTHER TRADES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WITH THIS PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT, BRIAN ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT THE MISCLASSIFICATION, WE FIND THAT HAPPENING REGULARLY. WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR SIGNED THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY. OUR MEMBERS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF PAY THEY GET, BENEFITS, BASED ON THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH PARTIES. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. PASS THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND APPRECIATE BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN. GO AHEAD UNMUTE YOURSELF. I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE PHONE. YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> YOU'RE UNMUTED. YOU CAN PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. MY NAME IS JOHN, I'M VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE -- NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M WORTH WORKING HARD TO GROW NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT FOR BOND O-21-84. I CALLED AND TALKED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN DISTRICT COALITION LEADERS. SOME SAID THEY HEARD NOTHING FROM THE COUNCILORS ABOUT 2184. THEY SAID THEY WOULD CALL YOU. I CALLED THEM BACK AFTER THEY TALKED TO YOU. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE TOLD TO OPPOSE 2184 BECAUSE IT TIES UP GRT REVENUES FOR YEARS. IT DOES NOT. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. WHAT IT DOES IS WHAT WOULD HAVE DONE TO THE STADIUM BOND FOR PRIVATELY OWNED SOCCER CLUB NOT FAILED. IT REFINANCES REVENUES AT BETTER RATES TO PRODUCE MONEY TO PAY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S MUCH LIKE WHAT I DID WHEN I REFINANCE MY MORTGAGE. THEY WERE TOLD TO OPPOSE BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL IS A LAME DUCK. YES, IT IS. BUT IN 2017, THAT DID NOT STOP SEVEN OF NINE COUNCILORS TO VOTE CRES ON -- YES ON THE INTEGRATED ORDINANCE IDO TO A LAME DUCK MAYOR FOR HIS SIGNATURE. THEY WERE TOLD THAT ALBUQUERQUE CAN WAIT FOR THIS. WE CAN'T WAIT. THESE PROJECTS ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NOW. THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL'S LIST FOR A LONG TIME. NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS HAVE BEEN WAITING 16 YEARS FOR A PUBLIC SWIMMING POOL. WAITING HAS CAUSED COST FOR THAT POOL TO DOUBLE. ANY MORE WAITING WILL CAUSE FINANCIAL AND THE HUMAN COST ADDRESSING THE CRIME OF ALBUQUERQUE'S CRIME AND HOMELESSPHASIS. PLEASE VOTE YES. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLY. I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE PHONE AS WELL. GO AHEAD AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN YOU START SPEAKING. >> CITY COUNCIL, IN ORDER FOR AFR TO PROMOTE IMPARTIALITY AND ADMINISTRATE DUE REGARD FOR DIVERSITY TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT ACCOUNTABILITY UNIFORM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND ENSURE THE EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADVANCEMENT THE FIRE CHIEF NEEDS TO BE A POSITION THAT -- DUE TO THE CURRENT STATUS AS A POLITICAL APPOINTMENT POSITION -- SORRY -- OPPORTUNITIES FOR A MISUSE OF AUTHORITY -- SORRY MY COMPUTER. SOME ISSUES OF AUTHORITY AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR UNFAIR PRACTICES FOR THE UNWRITTEN RULE AND UNTEMPERED USE OF FIRE CHIEF'S DISCRETION WHICH HAVE HAD SYSTEMIC BIASS. I'M THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE IN AFR. UNFORTUNATELY, MY POSITION, I HAVE CONTINUED TO WITNESS AND EXPERIENCE DISCRIMINATION WITHIN AFR THROUGH VARIOUS DEMONSTRATIONS AS IT HAS USED AUTHORITY TO JUSTIFY FAVORITISM AND UNFAIR CONSISTENCIES WHICH RESULTED IN HOSTALITY. MAKING REQUESTS FOR SELF-ADVOCACY, CLARIFICATION OF JUBE -- JOB DUTIES. IT'S BEEN DISHEARTENING TO EXPERIENCE THAT. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TOMAS. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOU'RE TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCILORS. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR THE PLA. I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ABILITY FOR EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABILITY. TO ME, IT'S -- ONE OF THE POINTS THAT'S PREVAILING IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY -- ACTUALLY ONE OF THE STATEMENTS MADE AGAINST ONE OF THE OPPONENTS OF THIS ORDINANCE WAS LOOKING AT WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND HOW IT OVERSEES ALL PROJECTS THAT ARE OVER $60,000. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S ONLY TWO LABOR LAW ADMINISTRATORS IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. NOW, TWO LABOR LAW ADMINISTRATORS, THERE'S OVER 2200 PROJECTS GOING ALONG STATE WIDE. RIGHT HERE IN THE BERNALILLO COUNTY AREA WE HAVE 563. LABOR LAW DEMONSTRATORS WILL GO TO EACH INDIVIDUAL, HAND THEM A SURVEY AND ASK THEM A SERIES OF QUESTIONS. JUST TO THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS HAVING TO GO ACROSS THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO GOING ACROSS BERNALILLO COUNTY, THAT'S DAUNTING. WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS SUPPORT FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT WORKERS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE GETTING PAID CORRECTLY. AND FOR -- >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BOBBY. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ATTEND TODAY. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW MEXICO NJTC APPRENTICESHIP COMMITTEE FOR NEW MEXICO. WE HAVE PUT APPRENTICES FOR OVER 50 YEARS. WORK WITH THE LOCAL 611. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO WORK. MORE FOCUS ON CRAFTSMANSHIP AND INSTALLATION AND HOW TO DO IT THE CORRECT WAY. SAFETY IS A BIG THING. AND WE HAVE PROGRAMS TO GET INTO SCHOOLS TO GET MORE PEOPLE OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL INTO THE TRADE. THERE'S DEMAND FOR WORK IN THE TRADES. WE'RE ASKING FOR SUPPORT ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE OF THE PLA. AND I JUST HELPING THE APPRENTICESHIP. THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN AND LET THEM KNOW THERE'S CAREERS OUT THERE BESIDES COLLEGE AND TRY TO GET THE BEST CANDIDATES AS POSSIBLE AND GET THE MEN AND WOMEN INTO THE FIELD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS COURTNEY. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I'M THE BUSINESS MANAGER OF THE LOCAL PIPEFITTERS IN THE GREAT CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND IN THE GREAT STATE OF NEW MEXICO. LOCAL 412 HAS BEEN A UNION SINCE 1910. THAT'S BEFORE WE WERE A STATE. WE'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ALL THIS TIME. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PL ORDINANCE. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA AND IT'S ABOUT TIME WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS DONE IN ALBUQUERQUE. PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS ARE GOOD FOR BUSINESS. THEY BENEFIT EVERYONE, CONTRACTORS WORKERS OWNERS TAXPAYERS, EVERYONE INVOLVED. BY INSURING A HARMONIOUS WORKPLACE, AND SAFE WORKPLACES ON THE JOB AND PROJECTS COMPLETED ON TIME AND BUDGET. IF WE GET THIS PASSED IT WOULD BE A GAME-CHANGER FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. IT WOULD TRANSLATE INTO COST SAVING FOR OWNERS. FEWER LOST TIME ON ACCIDENTS AND FEWER COST OVERRUNS. IT PROVIDES BROADER EMPLOYMENT THROUGH EXTENDED APPRENTICESHIPS AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MINORITIES. THIS IS NOT AN EMPTY CLAIM, IT'S SUPPORTED BY LOTS OF RESEARCH OVER THE DECADES. SOMETHING WE CAN GREATLY USE. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN OUR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WHICH HAS OVER 250 ACTIVE APPRENTICES ALL DAY EVERY DAY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WITH THE WORK COMING UP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DOUBLE IN SIZE OF APPRENTICESHIP. THIS ORDINANCE WOULD HELP US TREMENDOUSLY AND IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LISTENING TO ME TODAY AND PLEASE SUPPORT THIS PLA ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JIM. IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I THINK I'M UNMUTED. >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I'M THE OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR J&B CONSTRUCTION BASED OUT OF ALBUQUERQUE, THAT YOU MEAN. WE'VE SEEN -- I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PLA. WE FOLLOWED A LOT OF OTHER CONTRACTORS INTO THE FACILITIES IN THE PAST THAT WEREN'T DOING THINGS RIGHT. WEREN'T PAYING EMPLOYEES RIGHT. IN THE END YOU END UP HAVING TO PAY A CONTRACTOR TO CORRECT IT OR DO EVERYTHING. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: MAY I ASK MR. BAYLOR A QUESTION? >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, I'M UNMUTING MYSELF. YES ABSOLUTELY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. MR. BAYLOR, SOME OF THE ARGUMENT THAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT, AS AN EXAMPLE, ROOFING CONTRACTORS, LOCAL CONTRACTORS WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THESE CONTRACTS OVER $10 MILLION. BECAUSE NONE OF THEM ARE A UNION JOB. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? >> I'M NOT SURE WHETHER I CAN OR CAN'T. I KNOW FOR OUR COMPANY WE DON'T EXACTLY EVER WORK WITH ANY ROOFING CONTRACTORS IN TOWN THAT ARE UNION. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY. IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO AT LEAST COME TO THE TABLE AND DISCUSS THE INS AND OUTS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY BASED ON THE WAGE DECISIONS FOR THE PROJECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SIMILAR REQUIREMENTS BUT NOBODY WOULD BE INSISTING THAT THEY BE A UNION JOB. THEY JUST HAVE TO PLAY BY THE SPECIFIC RULES, CORRECT? >> I WOULD BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE. I'M NOT AN EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO UNIONIAN THINGS. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. >> I'M AN EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTING. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S OKAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING AND GETTING A PERSPECTIVE FROM A CONTRACTOR WHO DOES SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> YOU BET. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TROY. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO BACK ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M TROY, EXCUSE MY VOICE. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE PRESIDENT AND COUNCILORS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I'LL LET YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR 42 YEARS. MY COMPANY HAS BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR 65 YEARS. UNDER COLLECTIVE BARGAINING CONTRACTORS -- WE THINK THIS WOULD ACCEL THE SPEED OF JOBS AND THE KNOWN SKILLS THE CONTRACTORS WOULD HAVE WOULD SAVE THE CITY AND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, MY EXPERIENCE IS 42 YEARS DOING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WORK AND A LOT OF WORK IN BERNALILLO COUNTY. IT'S SEEMING TO ME THAT IF WE HAVE PEOPLE IN A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNIT, COST OVERRUN AND TIME SAVINGS WILL BE SHORTER. IT WOULD BE COST-EFFECTIVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WHO DO YOU REPRESENT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. >> B&D INDUSTRIES. I'M THE CEO. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ELECTRIC CONTRACTORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS -- BACA. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M AN ORGANIZER AT IBEW LOCAL 611. THERE'S A HEAVY INFLUX OF PEOPLE MIGRATING TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS FOR FAIRNESS AND LIVING WAGE OPPORTUNITIES. SINCE 2016, WE'RE BEHIND THE CURVE. WE NEED TO PICK UP MORE SKILLED QUALIFIED PEOPLE. WITH THAT, WE NEED JOB OPPORTUNITIES. A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE EXCLUDED FROM THESE OPPORTUNITIES FROM CITY JOBS THAT WE'RE HIRING LOCAL PEOPLE TO DO LOCAL WORK AND WE NEED THESE LOCAL JOBS. WE NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THOSE PROJECTS. A LOT OF TIME WE'RE UNDERCUT BECAUSE THE QAQC PROCESS GETS UNDERMINED AND YOU DON'T GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. AS AN ORGANIZER, I SIT ON THE JOINT APPRENTICESHIP COMMITTEE FOR THE ELECTRICAL INDUSTRY. HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE WE HAVE INFLUXED TO OVER 300 APPRENTICES. WE NEED THESE TRAINING TO GET THE WORKFORCE NUMBERS BACK IN ALBUQUERQUE AND NEW MEXICO. THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS THROUGH THE PARTNERS. WE NEED THESE PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED. IT WILL HELP FOR THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND GROW SKILLED TRADES WORKERS AND IT WILL ALSO BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE TAXPAYERS GETTING WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR. WE'RE TRAINING MEN AND WOMEN IN THE ELECTRICAL INDISTRY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL TODAY. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND AND HOPE YOU SUPPORT THIS PLA. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SANTOS. TURN YOUR VIDEO-ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. I'M AN INSIDE WIREMAN WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS. I REPRESENT MANY THOUSANDS OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL BILL PLA. I HAVE WORKED UNDER LABOR AGREEMENTS FOR 30 YEARS OF MY ADULT LIFE. CRAFT WORKERS ALL ACROSS THE STATE AND IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE UNDERSTAND, APPRECIATE THE VALUE THAT COME WITH WORKING UNDER A PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. OR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. THEY UNDERSTAND RESPECT, APPRECIATE THE VALUE THAT COMES WITH PROVIDING THE ESSENTIAL WAGES AND BENEFITS AFFORDED THE PROFESSIONAL CRAFT WORKERS. THESE AGREEMENTS ARE NOT NEW IDEAS. THEY HAVE BEEN A VITAL PART OF OUR STATE FOR OVER 100 YEARS. WE HAVE THEM AT THE NATIONAL LABORATORIES AND SOME OF THE BIGGEST CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN NEW MEXICO SUCH AS THE DATA CENTER IN LOS LUNAS AND INTEL IN RIO RANCHO. PLA AGREEMENTS ARE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE CONTRACTORS AND WORKERS. THIS ORDINANCE WILL SOLIDIFY THESE PARTNERSHIPS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLA. FEEL FREE TO TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> OKAY. GOT IT. CITY COUNCIL, MADAM PRESIDENT, MY NAME IS CARLA, I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF ASSOCIATED CONTRACTORS AND BUILDERS. WE'RE A CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING 160 MEMBERS ACROSS THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WE STAND TODAY IN OPPOSITION. WE HAVE THE LARGEST NON-UNION MULTITRADE ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE. ALL PROJECTS -- THERE'S LARGES AND SMALL CONTRACTORS, SOME ARE MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED. OUR MEMBERS PAY WAGES, FRINGE BENEFITS, AND APPRENTICESHIP. ALREADY SET BY UNION COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS. THEY INVEST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO THEIR WORKFORCE. THEY JUST SO HAPPEN, AND THEIR EMPLOYEES SO HAPPEN CHOOSE NOT TO BE UNION. IT'S FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS THAT WE URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE. CURRENTLY, ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, UNION AND NON-UNION COMPANIES WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THE BEST PRODUCT AND PAY THE BEST WAGES THEY CAN FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. WHEN GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS GET INVOLVED IT STARTS PITTING US AGAINST EACH OTHER. IT'S UNNECESSARY. INSTEAD OF A UNION, NON-UNION ISSUE WHAT WE RATHER SEE IS THE CITY HELP US GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THE INDUSTRY. FOR EVERYBODY. LORD KNOWS IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO GET THIS ALL DONE. PLEASE WE URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> IT'S AN HONOR TO ADDRESS THE ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCIL AND IN REVIEWING EVERYONE'S BIO WE SHARE THE COMMON GOAL OF MAKING ALBUQUERQUE THE BEST CITY IT CAN BE. RAISING MY FAMILY AND LIVE WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I SUPPORT THE ORDINANCE. IT ADDRESSES CRIME, HOMELESSNESS AND FINISH -- I'M A PILOT DELIVERING ESSENTIAL PRODUCTS TO ALBUQUERQUE LIKE THE COVID-19 VACCINES. I'M A COLONEL IN THE AIR FORCE RESERVE. ACCELERATE CHANGE OR LOSE. I SUGGEST THE CITY COUNCIL EMULATE THIS MODEL TO DEAL WITH THIS CHALLENGE. I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE AS IT ADDRESSES THE STRATEGIC PLAN. JUST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO A MAJORITY OFFENSE OF THE COUNCIL -- ALBUQUERQUE IS LOOKING FOR THIS BASED ON FACTS NOT FEAR. MY HOPE IS THIS BILL WILL EXTEND TO ALL DISTRICTS AND ACCELCHANGE TO WIN. I ENSURE THE POOL IN THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS WILL BE AN AQUATIC CENTER THAT SERVICES ALL ALBUQUERQUE. I FREQUENT THE POOLS IN OTHER DISTRICTS AND CAN ATTEST TO THE NEED FOR ONE IN DISTRICT FOUR. THIS PROJECT WILL HELP OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS WE RECOVER FROM A PANDEMIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. REMEMBER, YOU CAN'T BE ON YOUR SCREENS WHEN YOU'RE IN THE POOL. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HEATHER. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I'M HEATHER. I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF THE NEW MEXICO BADMINTON GAMES TOURNAMENT. IT'S ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I GIVE THESE REMARKS. I THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN WITH HER COMMUNICATION REGARDING THE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO THE MULTIGENERATION CENTER FOR PROFESSIONAL PAINTING OF THE COURT LINES OF THE FACILITY. WE ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE SUPERVISOR THOMAS GALLAGHER FOR PURCHASE THE EQUIPMENT, AND HAVE GIVING US SEVERAL HOURS FOR BADMINTON PLAY AND EFFORTS TO OBTAIN A PROFESSIONAL PAINTER FOR THE COURT LINE. IT'S A POPULAR SPORT AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE DIVERSE AND TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY. WE HAVE CONTACTED VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO GET MORE COURT SPACE AND TIME SINCE WE HAVE MORE PLAYERS THAN CAN BE ACCOMMODATED. WE HAVE ONLY BEEN GIVEN COURT TIME WITHIN THE LAST MONTH. IT'S THE ONLY GYM IN NORTHEAST ALBUQUERQUE WITH THE COURTS. MANY PLAYERS IN THE NORTHEAST AND IT'S MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN OTHER LOCATIONS. THE ADDITIONAL COURT SPACE WILL NOT ONLY SERVE OUR CURRENT PLAYERS BUT HOPEFULLY ALLOW US TO GROW OUR COMMUNITY WHICH IS SOMETHING HISTORICALLY RESTRICTS DUE TO LACK OF ACCESS. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO COUNCILOR BASSAN AND WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STATE THIS PUBLICLY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JANET. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO SUPPORT R-21-208. THE BILL REGARDING LOS ALTOES ARK AND A VARIETY OF CHANGES TO THE PLAN I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THE SALE OF LIQUOR BY PERMIT. I MYSELF HAVE PROBABLY BEEN TO LOS ALTOS PARK A ZILLIAN TIMES EVERY 50 YEARS. I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE COMPETITIVE SOFTBALL WORLD KNOWING TO TOURNAMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY AT WHICH THEY VERY SUCCESSFULLY WERE ABLE TO DISPENSE AND SALE LIQUOR AND HAVE THAT BE A PART OF THE AMBIANCE OF THE OUTDOOR EXPERIENCE. I ALSO LIKE TO ADD MY APPRECIATION TO THE OUTGOING COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR BORREGO, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR GIBSON, COUNCILOR HARRIS. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN, IF NOT HUNDREDS, PROBABLY THOUSANDS OF HOURS. YOU'VE GIVEN UP FAMILY TIME, PRIVATE TIME. JUST A LOT OF THINGS TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT COUNCILOR GIBSON HAS BEEN A FRIEND OF THE CASTLE. A FRIEND OF DEL NORTE. COUNCILOR GIBSON HAS BEEN THERE FOR US FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. SHE'S AN OFFICIAL DEL NORTE KNIGHT. WE HOPE TO WORK WITH THE NEW COUNCILOR IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. I'M IN CHARGE OF THE CAREER AT DEL NORTE. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH OTHER SPEAKERS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAUL. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HI, I'M PAUL. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE RIO GRANDE FOUNDATION. A PUBLIC POLICY RESEARCH ORGANIZATION BASED IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO. I'M JOINING YOU TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PUBLIC LABOR AGREEMENT LEGISLATION. THIS LAW WILL RAISE THE PRICE OF CONSTRUCTION ON PUBLIC WORKS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, IF IT'S ADOPTED. IT'S A GAVEAWAY TO WELL-CONNECTED AND ORGANIZED LABOR UNIONS. IT WILL RAISE THE COST FOR TAXPAYERS ON THESE PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S LARLY OUTRAGES -- THAT THIS IS HAPPENING IN A LAME DUCK COUNCIL SESSION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN UP BY THE NEWLY RECONSTITUTED COUNCIL AND NOT DONE AFTER AN ELECTION WHICH WOULD LIKELY RESULT IN MEMBERS NOT SUPPORTING THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DIANE. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ON BOTH ZOOM AND THE PHONE. THERE YOU ARE. YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HI, GOOD EVENING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. I APOLOGIZE FOR LESS THAN GREAT AUDIO. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE CENTRAL GROUP OF THE RIO GRANDE CHAPTER OF THE SIERRA CLUB. WE'RE A VOLUNTEER-LED ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING OVER 5,000 MEMBERS IN THE ALBUQUERQUE AREA. I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE CENTRAL GROUP IN SUPPORT OF JENNA PFEIFFER FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH JANET AND REVIEWED HER CREDENTIALS AND WE OFFER AND SUBMIT IN A LETTER THAT SHE IS A HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND ENTHUSIASTIC CANDIDATE THAT WILL BRING NEW IDEAS TO THE COMMISSION. SHE'S A GREAT SUPPORTER OF THE ENVIRONMENT. SHE'S HAD STRONG EXPERIENCE WITH LEADERSHIP POSITION AND MANAGING COMPLEX PLANNED ISSUES. WE ASK YOU TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING HER ON THE EPC. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. PLEASE READ OUR COMPLETE LETTER AND PLEASE VOTE YES FOR THE EPC. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BARBARA. TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. JUST GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> YES. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M BARBARA, FOR THE RECORD I'M THE FORMER CAPITAL PLANNER, AND FORMER PARKS DIRECTOR AND I'M A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. I'M HERE TODAY TO REQUEST THAT O-21-79 AND R-21-228 BE REFERRED TO LUPS. WITH REGARD TO O-79 THERE'S -- IT ELIMINATES ALL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THE BILL ELIMINATES THE TRUST FUND BUT THERE'S NO INFORMATION AS TO HOW THE MONEY WILL BE HELD. HOW EXPENDITURES WILL BE INTRODUCED EXAMINED AND APPROVED. THE BILL WRITTEN EVISCERATES THE DUTIES OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. IT HAS BEEN SAID MAKING THE 2% SETA SIDE PERMANENT BETTER BECAUSE IT'S BEING ACCOMPLISHED BY ORDINANCE AND THEREFORE THE FUND WILL BE DURABLE. THIS IS -- IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT 0-79 WITH NO PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT OVERTURNS ORDINANCE 1548 AND SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS OF ORDINANCE 1613 WITH RESPECT TO R-21-228 THIS BEING INTRODUCED TONIGHT THE GREAT THING THAT THERE'S A PLAN. THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD HASN'T SEEN THIS PLAN AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR BENTON MAY HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. TAYLOR. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ANGLE YOUR SCREEN. NOW WE SEE YOU. THE QUESTION IS, AS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE -- THE PRIORITY PROPERTIES OF THE OPEN SPACE SYSTEM, WHICH WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IN COMMITTEE AND SO FORTH AND QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT WHY SHOULDN'T WE END THIS QUICKLY. THAT QUESTION IS SOMEWHAT SEPARATE. I THINK THE QUESTION I HAVE IS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THAT PRIORITIES LIST, HOW MANY ARE UNDER IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR BENTON. I THINK THAT OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE LIST THE ONE THAT MAY BE UNDER DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IS CALABASIAS PUEBLO BECAUSE IT'S IN THE VICINITY OF A STRIP MALL. THAT PUTS MORE PRESSURE. GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS OUR PRIORITIES ARE NOT UNDER DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE. I CAN GO THROUGH THEM, BUT I THINK THAT'S TOO TEDIOUS. WE'LL HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW AND WE CAN DO THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT. MADAM PRESIDENT, MS. TAYLOR, THAT DISCUSSION AND THAT PRIORITIZATION OF COURSE, AT LEAST FROM THE LAST AMENDMENT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT I RECALL, WOULD ASK THE OSAB AND CITY COMMITTEES HERE TO CONSIDER THAT AS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DETERMINEINANTS AS TO WHETHER SOMETHING IS ELEVATED TO OFFER FOR PURCHASE. CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT, I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THIS, THERE'S VERY IMPORTANT PROPERTIES ON THIS LIST INCLUDING THE NORTH GEOLOGIC WINDOW WHICH WE WANTED TO OBTAIN FOR MANY YEARS. IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE ISSUES WE FACE BECAUSE IT'S IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. THE OWNER HAS NEVER BEEN WILLING TO SELL. I'M NOT SURE WE CAN FIND THE OWNER, WHETHER HE'S IN THE COUNTRY OR OUT OF THE COUNTRY. THE NORTHERN SAND DUNES FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOT UNDER DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE. THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPABLE AT ALL. THE VOLCANO HEIGHTS PROPERTY BELONGS TO THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. MULTIPLE EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO TRADE, BUY, WHATEVER. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COME TO A DEAL. WITH THE LAND OFFICE. AS I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THIS. THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT PROPERTIES THAT WE REALLY WANT TO ADD TO THE GLORY OF OUR 30,000 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE LAND. THEY'RE NOT, WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF THE PUEBLO, UNDER IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE. >>COUN. BENTON: OWNERSHIP CAN CHANGE, OWNERSHIP CAN TRANSFER. PEOPLE CAN MAKE NEW PLANS AND THAT WOULD COME INTO EFFECT. WERE SOMETHING TO CHANGE WITH THE NORTH GEOLOGIC WINDOW. A HUGE AREA AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANT. THE LANDOWNER IS OUTSIDE THE STATE. THAT CAN CHANGE AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE IF THAT DOES CHANGE WE'RE PREPARED TO RESPOND. I THINK THIS IS HELPFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND. I REALLY WANT HER TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT THESE THINGS COULD GET DEVELOPED TOMORROW UNLESS WE LIQUIDATE THIS FUND. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ALAN. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOU'RE TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THERE IT IS. SORRY. NOW I'VE GOT IT. THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'LL TAKE A DIFFERENT ANGLE ON THE ISSUE BROUGHT UP BY THE PRESENTER AND COUNCILOR BENTON. I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINATERS OF THE PROGRAM AND THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND. I'VE STAYED INVOLVED, AS I CAN. RECENTLY I WAS A MEMBER OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD FOR SIX YEARS. DURING THAT TIME IN 2015 AND 2016 WITH COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR DAVIS SUPPORTING THE EFFORT WE REFORMED AND UNIDATED THE OPEN-SPACE PROCESS. THE AQUAIZATION -- IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE LIST FOR THE CITY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL. IT MEETS ONCE A YEAR AND A MATRIX IS USED WHICH IS BASED ON A FIELD TESTAMENT OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE PRIORITIES LIST THAT COUNCILOR BENTON AND MARGARET WERE JUST DISCUSSING. THESE ARE JUST PARTS OF THE COMPLEX SYSTEM WITH THE OPEN SPACE TRUST FUND. IT WOULD BE REALLY A SERIOUS MISTAKE TO ADOPT COUNCILOR HARRIS'S BILL, O-79, BECAUSE IT HAS NOT HAD SUFFICIENT EXAMINATION BY THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD, BY THE ADMINISTRATION. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> I URGE THAT YOU PROCEED REFERRING O-79 TO GO THE ADVISORY BOARD AND LUPS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MAY. WE'RE VERY DEFERENTIAL, WE LIKE TO POINT OUT WHEN SOMEONE WAS A CITY COUNCILLOR. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW LONG IT WAS. I MUST ALSO SAY THAT I WANTED YOU TO SAY BRIEFLY WHEN YOU SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHEN YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE EARLY CONCEPTION OF THE OPEN SPACE SYSTEM AND HOW LONG THAT TOOK BEFORE IT WAS EVEN ENACTED AND ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU FINISH THAT AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING. >> SURE. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I SERVED IN THE SECOND COUNCIL, WHICH WAS ELECTED IN 1975. YOU'RE IN THE 22nd COUNCIL, I BELIEVE. IT'S BEEN 45 YEARS. IT WAS A TEN-YEAR LONG PROCESS THAT BEGAN BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL. THERE WAS A GROUP CALLED SAVE OUR SANDIAS BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING UP THE FACE OF THE FOOTHILLS. I GOT INVOLVED TO HELP WITH THAT. AND PROCEEDED THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A LOT OF THINGS DONE. ESTABLISHED THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM. SUCH AS GETTING THE WILDERNESS DESIGNATED AS A NATIONAL FOREST ON THE MOUNTAIN. WE'RE THE ONLY CITY OF ANY SUBSTANTIAL SIZE THAT HAS WILDERNESS ON ITS DOORSTEP. AT THE SAME TIME THE CONFERENCE CONCENSUS WAS GOING ON AND THE PLANNERS WROTE THE REPORT CALLED THE CITY EDGES. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT FOR A LONG TIME. I HAVE A COPY, BUT I URGE COUNCILORS THAT TAKE AN INTEREST IN THE OPEN SPACE PROGRAM AND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE TO LOOK AT THAT STUDY. THAT DESIGNATED CULTURAL AND HISTORICALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY AND ECOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT ASPECTS AROUND THE CITY THAT WERE NOT ALREADY CHAPTURED BY URBANIZATION. WE'VE USED THAT AS A GENERAL GUIDE. IN THE LATER STAGES OF MY TERM, WE WROTE THE LANGUAGE TO ESTABLISH THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TO ESTABLISH A TRUSTFUND TO STABILIZE FINANCING PERMANENTLY, WE HOPE, BECAUSE WE'RE EXPERIENCED WITH PERMANENT FUNDS WITH STHAT -- STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THIS WAS A HISTORIC DEMAND THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THE YEAR AFTER MY TERM ENDED, THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL, WAS ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE AND REQUIRED TO COLLECT THE MONEY AND PUT IT INTO THE TRUST FUND. IT'S TOO COMPLICATED TO GO INTO NOW. I WOULD JUST SAY ONE MORE THING, MADAM PRESIDENT, IF I MIGHT AS A COURTESY I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AS I HAVE SEEN NEW COUNCIL HAS COME IN, BLESS YOU ALL. YOU HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF ALBUQUERQUE AT HEART. YOU WORK HARD. YOU DON'T GET MUCH. YOU DON'T GET MUCH APPRECIATION. CERTAINLY NOT EQUIVALENT TO THE EFFORT YOU MAKE. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY ADVISIBLE FOR THE FUTURE TO HAVE SOME ORIENTATION TIME. HOWEVER YOU DO IT IN THE JOINT RETREAT FOR THE OPEN SPACE BOARD AND THE ADMINISTRATION OR WITH THE CONSULTANT'S REPORT TO HEAR THE OVERALL OPEN SPACE PROGRAM AND ITS FINANCES. BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING OFTEN. IN FACT, FOR YEARS, THIS HAS BEEN THE CASE WITH VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT A VERY COMPLEX SYSTEM. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, DR. REID. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. AND IN MY CASE THANK YOU, PROFESSOR REID. MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU AND THE THINGS YOU ACCOMPLISHED IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE ALL THE WAY THROUGH. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KELLY. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. FOR THE RECORD, I AM SHOWING IN SUPPORT OF COUNCIL BILL 0-21-84. I'M ALSO CO-LEADER OF THE CITIZENS OF NORTH DOMINGO BACA AQUATIC CENTER. I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IN MANY PLACES THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHWEST. THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND COLORADO AND HAVE SPENT TIME IN ARIZONA. THIS IS MY THIRD TIME TO LIVE BACK IN NEW MEXICO. WITH A HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL HERE AND FAMILY HERE FOR MANY DECADES. I MOVED BACK HERE ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STRUCK ME WHEN I CAME BACK, IT TOOK ME ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO FIGURE IT OUT, THE CITY HAS AN IDENTITY OF POVERTY AND CRIME AND HOMELESSNESS. IT DOESN'T HAVE AN INOIVATIVE IDENTITY. THE WAY IT THINKS ABOUT ITSELF AND PRESENTS ITSELF AND THE WAY THAT CITIZENS TALK, I EVEN HEAR IT IN CITY COUNCIL AND GOVERNMENT, THE WAY WE TALK ABOUT OURSELVES IS SOMETHING THAT IS STUCK IN A TIME WARP. IT'S STUCK LAST YEAR. WHAT I FIND IS THE CITY THAT ARE ALL AROUND US ARE MOVING ON WITH PROJECTS. THEY'RE ADDRESSING THOSE COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. CLEARING THE DECK ON THAT AND MOVING TO THINGS THAT ARE FORWARD THING, INOIVATING AND CARRYING THEIR CITY INTO FUTURE DECADES. I BELIEVE THAT THIS BILL THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA HAVE PRESENTED IS THE KIND OF BILL THAT STARTS TO ADDRESS THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF COMMUNITY PRESSING DESIRES AND NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GET FUNDED. SO WE CAN CLEAR THE DECKS AND THE CITY CAN START MOVING ON AND MOVING INTO MORE WAYS. I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THE STADIUM BOND FAILED. WE CAN'T GET TO THE REALLY NICE THINGS UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS DESIRING. IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT ABLE TO PASS THIS BILL TODAY, I HOPE THEY WILL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERRY. FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON, UNMUTE YOURSELF, AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> SORRY. >>COUN. BORREGO: GO AHEAD. >> MY VIDEO WASN'T COMING UP. GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCILLORS, I HOPE THIS MESSAGE FINDS YOU WELL AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR PEOPLE. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF MY NGO SOUTHWEST STATE. I BELIEVE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS THE REPRESENTATION OF A NITIVE PERSON ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 60,000 VOTING INDIGENOUS CONSTITUENTS REPRESENT OVER 400 TRIBES. THE CITY PROVIDES DIVERSITY ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION, NOW IS THE TIME TO START. ALBUQUERQUE IS AN EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE PLACE TO WORK. WHEREAS IT CREATED THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. LET'S SHOW THE COUNTRY THAT IS WHO WE ARE. THEREFORE, I SUPPORT MAYOR'S NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT OF MS. PFEIFFER TO THE ALBUQUERQUE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. HER BACKGROUND, WORK AND PASSION FOR SUCH WORK MADE HER AN IDEAL CANDIDATE. SHE'LL TO THE NECESSARY WORK TO GET THE JOB DONE. RESPECTFULLY, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO ASK MR. SLOAN, AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL LATER, BUT IT'S A GOOD TIME NOW. WE'RE HEARING ABOUT INCREASING DIVERSITY AND INCLUDING THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND THE RIGHTS TO THEIR LAND AND THE EPC. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU WEIGHED IN WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHER COUNCILORS. THIS APPOINTMENT HAS BEEN OPEN FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. THERE'S THREE MORE COMING UP IN THREE WEEKS. I WONDER IF YOU HAVE ENGAGED WITH ANYONE OR ANYONE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. MAYBE PUTTING THIS ON HOLD AND PROMOTING ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS SO WE CAN INCREASE DIVERSITY NOT JUST ONE DISTRICT BUT ACROSS THE CITY. >> YES. WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. IN FACT, THERE'S A GROUP CALLED THE NATIVE LEADERSHIP OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO IS PROMOTING DIVERSITY THROUGH THE NATIVE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY AND ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS COMING ABOUT FROM THE THE CITY AT THIS LEVEL. WE'RE MAKING SURE WE'RE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO PROMOTE SOMEONE THAT CAN BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK FOR THE CITY. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE POSITIONS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M SORRY, I THINK I STUMBLED AND ASK YOU MY QUESTION. I'M GLAD TO KNOW YOUR GROUP IS WORKING. I KNOW THERE'S OTHER GROUPS DOING SOME OF THE WORK. I THINK MY QUESTION WAS, WOULD YOU AND YOUR GROUP OPPOSE US POSTPONING THIS APPOINTMENT SO WE CAN PROMOTE ALL OF THE APPOINTMENTS ON THE EPC THAT ARE COMING UP IN JANUARY IN HOPES OF SECURING MORE THAN JUST ONE POSITION FROM THE NATIVE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THAT? OR WOULD YOU PREFER US MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT WITH US? I THINK THERE'S CONCERN THAT IF WE JUST DO THIS FOLKS MIGHT SAY WE CHECKED THAT BOX AND NOT HAVE THE PUBLIC PROCESS. >> I THINK THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITY WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST CHECKING THAT BOX. THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S OTHERS THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE POSITIONS. I THINK GETTING A DECISION TONIGHT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE YOU'LL BE SETTING PRECEDENCE. IT WON'T WE JUST CHECKING THE BOX. I THINK IT IS WELL INTENT AND GREAT UPON THE CITY. THERE'S 60,000 INDIGENOUS PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS. WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CECLIA. YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT BEER AT LOS ALTOS PARK. THE PARK HAS BEEN THE LOCATION FOR TOO MUCH ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE. FAMILIES ARE INTIMIDATED, I KNOW MINE IS, AND DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE THERE. THE CITY SHOULD NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL OR DRUGS TO BE BROUGHT INTO LOS ALTOS. AND ANY SALES OR CONSUMPTION SHOULD BE VERY CAREFULLY REGULATED AND MONITORED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. THERE'S A MICHAEL RICE. YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED I DON'T HAVE YOUR NAME SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> I HAD A CHALLENGE FINDING A WAY TO SIGN UP AROUND NOON AND WASN'T ABLE TO SIGN UP SPECIFICALLY. I RAISED MY HAND AND HOPED. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL ALLOW IT, PLEASE. >> OKAY. YOU CAN JOIN AS PANEL IF YOU WANTED TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON. OTHERWISE YOU CAN START YOUR COMMENTS NOW. >> HOW ABOUT NOW? THERE WE GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I APOLOGIZE. I'LL GET STARTED WHILE I GET THIS TO WORK. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC LABOR PIECE. ONE PART THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE BILL SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED ON NOVEMBER 15 WHICH ISN'T 30 DAYS. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT. COST INCREASES RESULTING FROM PLA'S HAVE BEEN DEMONSTRATED. I LISTED FOUR RESOURCES IN AN EMAIL I CAN PROVIDE TO ANYONE. MEASURING THE COST OF PLA TO SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THEY'RE VERY RARELY DISPUTABLE. THEY'RE TYPICALLY CLEAR THAT COSTS ARE INCREASED BETWEEN 10 TO 30% ON PROJECTS WHERE PLAs ARE REQUIRED. LET ME GET TO ANOTHER SPOT. THE COMMONLY ADDRESSED CHALLENGES ARE FACTUALLY DISPUTED IN INCREASED COST. YET, CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSIONS IGNORE THESE COSTS BORN BY CONSTITUENTS AND BENEFIT A MINORITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE. 8% IN NEW MEXICO IS THE UNION CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE. LEAVES OUT 92% OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW MEXICO ROOFING CONTRACTOR'S ASSOCIATION. THERE WAS QUESTION ABOUT ROOFING. THERE ARE NOT CONTRACTORS UNION IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. ALSO, PLAs -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. WE ALSO HAVE LOCAL 1319. I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED. DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK? >> YEAH, I BELIEVE MY ZOOM IS OFF. >> GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT THE PROMOTION TO PANEL AND FEEL FREE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON. YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> DOES IT WORK NOW? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM THE PRESIDENT FROM CARPENTERS LOCAL 1319, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE OTHER INSURANCE OF THE WORKFORCE AGREEMENT. PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT IT RAISING THE COST IS JUST AN UNEDUCATED COMMENT. OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS SET THE PREVAILING WAGE FOR THE STATE. THEREFORE, IT DOES NOT RAISE ANY TYPE OF COST TO THE PROJECTS. IN FACT, IT'S MORE ABOUT COMMUNITY INVESTMENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE ARE INVESTING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TAX DOLLARS WE'RE GUARANTEEING IT'S LOCAL HIRE. YES THERE'S OWN SHOP CONTRACTORS THAT DO PAY THE PREVAILING WAGE, A LOT GO UNDER THE RADAR BECAUSE OUR DEPARTMENT OF WAGE ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT DO A GOOD JOB AT IT. WORKFORCE AGREEMENTS MAKE SURE WE INVEST THE MONEY BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A HIGH CRIME RATE, AND A VAST MAJORITY OF STUDENTS NOT GOING TO COLLEGE. WE NEED TO SUPPLY JOBS FOR THEM. THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND FOR TRADES AND TRADE WORKERS IN ALL OF THE CITY. WE NEED TO PROVIDE A JOB FOR THEM. INVESTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY IS NOT SOMETHING WRONG TO SAY OR DO. WHEN WE BUILD A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S AN ALBUQUERQUE GRADUATE IN THERE. THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WORKFORCE AGREEMENT IS ABOUT. INVESTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. MAKING SURE THESE PROJECTS ARE BEING BUILT BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GET PAID WITH GOOD JOBS, GOOD WAGES, GOOD BENEFITS. WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT PROJECT TO BE BUILT AND WORKFORCE TO HAVE A PENSION FOR THE WORKERS TO HAVE MEDICAL BENEFITS. ENSURING THAT THEY'RE -- IT'S GREAT THE COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WHO WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S A VERY GREAT IDEA. >> THANK YOU, ROSANDO, YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT. IF I MAY? I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE LABOR, IF THIS WERE TO PASS AND I HOPE IT DOES, BUT IF IT WERE TO PASS, HOW IS YOUR LOCAL -- LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE LABOR MOVEMENT. ARE YOU PREPARED TO BUILD TO CAPACITY? THERE HAS TO BE BETWEEN YOURSELF AND CNM AND INSTITUTIONS LIKE THAT, TO REALLY GET OUT THERE AND BUILD THE CAPACITY. I'M A FORMER BIG BROTHER IN THE BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS PROGRAM. IT'S STILL VERY CLOSE -- I'M CLOSE TO MY LITTLE AND I'M THE BIG. I WANT HIM TO GET INTO A UNION BUT YOU KNOW OVER THE YEARS HOW DO WE REALLY BUILD THAT CAPACITY WITH YOUR LOCAL? I GUESS WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? IF THIS WERE TO PASS, ARE YOU PREPARED TO REALLY GET THERE AND GET YOUNG PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTO THE UNIONS AND INTO A TRADE? >> DEFINITELY. THE IBW AND THE PLUMBERS DO THE OUTREACH TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN JUST THE WORK OR BEING UNION OR NON-UNION. IT'S ABOUT HELPING OURSELVES. REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE STAND ON THE SIDE OF THE LINE, WE'RE RAISING THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND DEALING WITH THE HARDSHIPS WE DEAL WITH AND THE LACK OF EMPLOYMENT AND HOMELESSNESS AND CRIME. PART OF SOLVING THAT PROBLEM IS GIVING YOUR YOUTH ANOTHER OPTION COMING OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. OFFERING THAT OPTION OR SKRURING THAT WHEN PROJECTS ARE BEING BUILT THAT ARE A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT, THEY'RE BEING INVESTED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. THIS TIES IN GREATLY RIGHT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND GETTING THE TRADE WORKERS. THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND IN TRADE AND THERE'S A HIGH DROP OUT RATE IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. THERE'S A HIGH RATE OF PEOPLE NOT GOING TO COLLEGE. IF YOU JUST TRY TO VOLVE BOTH PROBLEMS TOGETHER I THINK IT'S BEING SMART AND USING THE TAX DOLLARS TO THE BEST VALUE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND YOU MAY DO THIS, COUNCILOR, I VISITED WITH THE CARPENTERS AND I WAS ABLE TO SEE THEIR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. I WAS VERY, VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WHOLE SET UP. THEY HAVE A WHOLE FACILITY RIGHT ON-SITE THAT DOES TRAIN THEM RIGHT ON-SITE. IT WAS QUITE IMPRESSIVE. I THINK WE HAVE ONE OTHER SPEAKER. IS THAT RIGHT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK. >> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M MARK STRANDS. I'M PRESIDENT OF THE CENTRAL NEW MEXICO LABOR COUNCIL. I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT. IT WOULD HELP BENEFIT EVERYONE AND JOIN US ALL TOGETHER AS ONE. AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, I'VE BEEN A LONG-STANDING MEMBER OF IBEW. I WAS ABLE TO RAISE MY FAMILY FULLY OFF MY INCOME AS AN IBEW AND EMPLOYEE OF PNM. I THINK IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO BE A SING -- NOT A SINGLE BUT A SOLE INCOME FOR YOUR FAMILY AND HAVE YOUR WIFE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS. I DIDN'T FORCE HER, I GAVE HER HAD OPTION. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT OUR KIDS HAVE PROPER UPBRINGING. WHETHER IN A FACILITY OR AT HOME WITH THEIR FAMILY. TO BE ABLE TO GIVE MY FAMILY THAT OPTION WITH WAS A GREAT PLEASURE AND A GREAT HONOR OF MINE. IT REALLY MEANT A LOT TO ME TO JUST GIVE THAT OPTION TO MY WIFE. THAT IS ONE THING THAT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PNM AND IBEW BROUGHT TO US. WITH MORE PARTNERSHIPS, IT WILL GROW GREATLY. I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS THIS EVENING AND TAKING THE TIME TO VOICE YOUR OPINION. WITH THAT, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER. I ESPECIALLY WANT TOTHANK -- THANK THE UNION FOR TAKING THE TIME TO VISIT WITH US AND GIVING US A PERSPECTIVE FROM THEIR VANTAGE POINT. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ANSWER FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILORS, FEEL FREE IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING YOU NEED TO ASK. FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND. I AM GOING TO START WITH TRANSIT. AT OUR LAST MEETING WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FREE FARES. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS STAFFING FOR TRANSIT. I GUESS I HAVE WITH US OUR TRANSIT INTERIM DIRECTOR STEPHANIE. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. I AM AVAILABLE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU HAVE BEING WITH US. THE QUESTION I HAVE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS REGARD TO STAFFING. I KNOW YOU WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH BUS DRIVERS AND RECRUITMENT. I JUST WONDERED HOW THAT IS PROCEEDING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO SHARE. IF YOU CAN PLEASE ENABLE THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO NOW. >> THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE. RECRUITING FOR MOTOR COACH OPERATORS. WE HAVE 47 FULL TIME VACANCIES. WE'RE WORKING ON AN MOU FOR EIGHT PART-TIME POSITIONS. WE HOPE THAT WILL HELP US RECRUIT MORE DRIVERS. OUR CURRENT VACANCY RATE IS 20%. THAT'S FOR FTEs. THAT PERCENTAGE WAS AS HIGH AS 30% EARLIER THIS YEAR IN JULY. IN SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR THERE WAS A NEW CONTRACT WITH -- THAT WAS APPROVED. IT MADE SUBSTANTIAL PAY CHANGES TO THE STRUCTURE. THEY GOT A PAY RAISE AND CAN GET STEP INCREASES. WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL HELP US RETAIN AND RECRUIT NEW DRIVERS. WE ALSO HAVE A HIRING INCENTIVE FOR UP TO $1000. WE HAVE A FINDERS FEE TO INCENTIVIZE OUR CURRENT STAFF TO RECRUIT DRIVERS. WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE HAVE A MULTIMEDIA MARKETING CAMPAIGN AND HIRING EVENTS. WE HAVE THE HIRING BUS THAT IS GENERATING SOME INTEREST. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES CONTINUE TO BE THE COMPETITIVE EMPLOYMENT MARKET. WE EVALUATE HOW WE CAN RECRUIT AND RETAIN DRIVERS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THERE'S A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN AWARE OF FOR YEARS. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND I INTRODUCED A RESOLUTION ABOUT DOING A STUDY ON HOW TO RETAIN BUS DRIVERS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS -- I THINK WE CORRECTED IT, BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT IF IT'S TRUE. BACK AT THE TIME, IT WAS OVER A DECADE AGO, THE DRIVERS FOR SOLID WASTE WERE MAKING MORE MONEY THAN THE BUS DRIVERS. THAT WAS SOMETHING WE FOUND MORALLY PROBLEMATIC. WE WERE PAYING MOTOR COACH DRIVERS LESS MONEY TO PAY PEOPLE THAN WE WERE PAYING TO PAY WASTE DRIVERS TO DRIVE TRASH. HAS THAT BEEN FIXED? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR HARRIS. FOR INFORMATION, YES. IN THE LAST TWO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WE HAVE PUT MOTOR COACH OPERATORS AND OUR SOLID WASTE DRIVERS ON THE SAME PAY SCALE. IT HAS REALLY HELPED IN RETAINING MOTOR COACH OPERATORS. I'M SURE THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD SOME TIME AGO WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WAS THAT TRANSIT WAS THE TRAINING GROUND AND EVENTUALLY EVERYBODY WOULD GO TO SOLID WASTE. IN FACT, THEY ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAY SCALE. WE'RE NOT SEEING THAT ISSUE OCCUR LIKE WE HAD IN THE PAST. >>COUN. HARRIS: OKAY. THANK YOU MR. RAEL. SOMEDAY, I THINK I'D LIKE FOR MOTOR COACH OPERATORS TO BE PAID MORE. IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE WHEN OUR MOTOR COACH OPERATORS WERE BEING PAID LESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: IS THERE ANY WAY TO TURN YOUR MICROPHONE UP? WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'LL BET THERE IS. ACTUALLY MY MICROPHONE IS AT FULL. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, IF YOU CAN SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT. >>COUN. GIBSON: DIRECTOR, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SHIFT THAT THE BUS DRIVERS WORK. I THINK THIS IS TRUE, BUT I'M ASKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I'M NOT CERTAIN. IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S SPLIT SHIFTS. WE HAVE SEVERAL ROUTES OR SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO NEED TO WORK SPLIT SHIFT, IF SO DO YOU SEE THAT AS AN ISSUE IN HIRING PEOPLE AS MOTOR COACH OPERATORS THE >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE DO HAVE SPLIT SHIFTS. SOME PEOPLE ENJOY THE SPLIT SHIFT. SOME PEOPLE DO NOT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WE GO THROUGH A BIDDING PROCESS BASED ON SENIORITY. >>COUN. GIBSON: DO YOU SEE THAT AS A POTENTIALLY A PROBLEM OR AN ISSUE THAT WOULD STOP PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO BECOME A MOTOR COACH OPERATOR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT. TYPICALLY, THE NEXT BID THEY'LL CHOOSE A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE. WE SEE A MIX. WE TO SOME PEOPLE THAT LIKE IT BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO DROP THEIR KIDS OFF. CERTAIN PEOPLE LIKE AND CERTAIN DON'T. WE ALWAYS REEVALUATE OUR ROUTE SCHEDULES AND HOW INDIVIDUALS BID ON THEM. AND HOW TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING TO RECRUIT THOSE DRIVERS. >>QUESTION: . >>COUN. GIBSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M TALKING ABOUT HIRING PEOPLE. DO YOU SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM? AND MAYBE A FIXABLE PROBLEM IN BRINGING PEOPLE IN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED A LOT OF FEEDBACK WITH COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SPLIT SHIFT. IT'S USUALLY THE LATER SHIFTS WE HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT FOR NEW RECRUITS. WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I'M GLAD TO SEE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SHIFT IN YOUR NUMBERS. I WAS VERY CONCERNED WHEN I SAW THAT 30%. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT TWO OF MY TRANSIT STATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FULLY FUNDED AND HAVE BEEN DESIGNED FOR QUITE A WHILE AND THE START DATES GET PUSHED BACK QUITE A BIT. EAGLE RANCH AND COORS AND GOLF COURSE AND ELSON. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TONIGHT, YOU CAN CALL ME. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH OF THE SITES BECAUSE THE FUNDING HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE A WHILE. I KEEP GETTING PUSH BACK ON CONSTRUCTION DATES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT AT LEAST THEY'RE GETTING MOVEMENT ON THOSE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THESE ARE A PRIORITY TO COMPLETE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO MY NEXT QUESTION WHICH IS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS ALSO A DELAY ON A LANDSCAPE PROJECT. I THINK I HAVE MR. MONTOYA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M HERE. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANOTHER DELAY, DIRECTOR, ON IRVING LANDSCAPE PROJECT. I KNOW THAT'S ALSO DESIGN AND FULLY FUNDED. I WANT TO KNOW AND FOR MY CONSTITUENTS LISTENING IN DISTRICT FIVE LAND, I WANT THEM TO KNOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE IN THE QUEUE AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO MOVE THOSE FORWARD. DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, JUST THE LATEST UPDATE. FIVE CERTIFICATES WERE REQUIRED FROM THE DOT FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE OF THOSE. WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THE LAST CERTIFICATE AWARDED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR EARLY JANUARY. AS YOU KNOW THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN FULLY DESIGNED AND READY TO GO. IT'S SHOVEL READY. WE ANTICIPATE BREAKING GROUND AROUND MARCH 1. WE'LL START AT THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROJECT MOVING WEST. THAT PROJECT IS READY TO GO. WE JUST NEED THAT LAST CERTIFICATION FROM THE STATE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I HOPE THAT MY SUCCESSOR WILL INVITE ME TO THIS AND SOME OF THESE TRANSIT GROUNDBREAKINGS. AS I MENTIONED, THOSE ARE COMPLETED DESIGNS AND THEY'RE ALL FULLY FUNDED. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND WITH THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS UP. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE JOURNAL. WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE NOVEMBER 15th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: I SECOND THAT COUNCILOR. THERE'S ALSO A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA, FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE WITH COUNCILOR HARRIS BEING EXCUSED. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SEVEN WHICH IS COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-223 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S AMENDING THE OFFICIAL LIST OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FROM JANUARY 2022 THROUGH DECEMBER 2022. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. I BELIEVE THAT'S A SECOND, COUNCILOR DAVIS. I WOULD REMIND COUNCILORS THAT REGARDING THIS ITEM WE NEED TWO-THIRDS PRESENT TO VOTE IN FAVOR. I WILL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT MOTION FAILS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M TRYING TO GET MY MOUSE TO WORK. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLACING R-224. IT'S ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2021 APPROPRIATIONS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE FOR EXPENDITURES AND ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2022 OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. COUNCILOR SENA HAS SECONDED THAT. I REMIND COUNCILORS, WE NEED TWO-THIRDS OF THE COUNCILORS PRESENT THIS EVENING REGARDING THE VOTE IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I WILL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT ITEM PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR SENA, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS YOURS. >>COUN. SENA: I'LL BE MOVING THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY, COUNCILOR. I GOT THAT MESSAGE EARLIER. WE WILL NOT GO WITH THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. I WILL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU CAN MOVE YOUR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I CAN. THANK YOU. ON THE MATTER OF R-21-228. THIS IS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE EXPRESSES APPRECIATION WITH REGARD TO THE OPEN SPACE. AGAIN, AS DESCRIBED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE OSAD, OR THE MEMBER AND OTHERS WHO HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH US IN REGARD TO THIS FROM THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD, THIS IS ANOTHER OPEN SPACE BILL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE HEARD BEFORE THE END OF THIS COUNCIL. REGARDLESS OF THAT, WHETHER IT'S THE END OR NOT, THIS TYPE OF CHANGE TO THE OPEN SPACE SYSTEM RIGHTLY SHOULD GO TO TWO COMMITTEES. THE FGO, BECAUSE IT INCLUDES FISCAL MATTERS AND WITH REGARD TO THE OPEN SPACE FUND AND TO LUPS BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH OPEN SPACE AND SO BOTH OF THOSE COMMITTEES AS PART OF THEIR CHARGE TO DISCUSS THIS SORT OF MATTER, NOT TO MENTION THAT WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE REPORTS FROM THE OSAD PROVIDED AT EACH OF THOSE COMMITTEES. I MOVE THAT THIS ITEM WE REMOVED -- NOT BE REMOVED, BUT REFERRAL BE CHANGED TO -- INSTEAD OF BEING HEARD AT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 20th TO BE REFERRED TO THOSE TWO COMMITTEES. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, YOU HAVE MADE AN AMENDMENT THAT PARTICULAR BILL BE REFERRED TO TWO COMMITTEES RATHER THAN ME HEARD ON THE 20th. I JUST WOULD REMIND YOU AND THE COUNCILORS THAT THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT A MATTER OF OUR GENERAL FUND. IT ACTUALLY IS COMING OUT OF THE SET ASIDE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCILORS ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: BEFORE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. >>COUN. BASSAN: GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: REGARDLESS OF THE COMMITTEES OR FUNDING SOURCE, WITH REGARD TO THIS 40-YEAR-OLD FUND, THERE'S ANOTHER LAST-MINUTE AMENDMENT. REGARDLESS OF THAT FUNDING SOURCE, IT SHOULD AT THE VERY LEAST GO TO THE OSAB AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK WE HAD A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LETTER AND THERE WAS A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: HE SAID IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW THE AMENDMENT. I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO COMMENT ON THAT. BECAUSE YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT MOTION CAME BEFORE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO AMEND THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION ON THE LETTER IT DOES REQUIRE A MOTION AND A SECOND JUST AS WITH ANY OTHER BILL IT CAN BE AMENDED BEFORE THE FINAL BILL IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR CONSIDERATION. THEY TAKE PRECEDENT OVER THE FINAL MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILORS, WITH THAT ADVICE WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. WE WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT. CAN YOU PLEASE REMIND US WHICH ONE IT IS? WE'RE AMENDING TO PUT THIS ON THE LETTER OR REMOVE IT FROM THE LETTER? >>COUN. BENTON: MY MOTION WAS TO -- INSTEAD OF OA HOLD OVER PUT IT TO COMMITTEE. >>COUN. BORREGO: R-228. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL GO TO THE AMENDMENT. MS. ORTEGA. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNCILOR BENTON, THIS IS A MOTION FOR R-228 TO REFER TO FINANCE AND LUPS INSTEAD OF IT BEING A HOLDOVER? IS THAT CORRECT? >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BORREGO: CAN I REMIND COUNCILORS THAT LUPS IS CANCELED THIS MONTH. BOTH COUNCILORS WILL BE OFF THE COUNCIL BY JANUARY. >> SHALL I PROCEED? >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 8 FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY NOVEMBER 22 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC466, 467 AND 468 BE APPROVED. R210 DUE PASS. O76 DUE PASS AS AMENDED. O79 BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. HARRIS: SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO DEFERALES AND WITH DRAWLS. DO WE HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME? I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS IN THE QUEUE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? BEFORE WE GO INTO THIS ITEM, COUNCILORS, I WANT TO READ INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION AND MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THE CITY. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. AND YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. DON'T YOU JUST THESE LITTLE MUTE AND UNMUTE? IT SHOULD BE AUTOMATIC. MAYBE SOMEBODY SHOULD INVENT THAT. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, LOOKING LOVELY THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY DECEMBER 13 AT 3 P.M. AND THERE'S AN ALBUQUERQUE-BERNALILLO COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY DECEMBER 16 AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR SENA, LOOKING JUST AS LOVELY. >>COUN. SENA: THERE'S A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING ON TUESDAY DECEMBER 14 VIA ZOOM VID CROW -- VIDEO. >>COUN. JONES: THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 15th IS CANCELED. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARING. THIS EVENING WE HAVE ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA AC-21-14. WILLIAM APPEALS HIS ZONING AND HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION. WE HAVE -- TO EXPLAIN THE APPEAL. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE ISSUE IN THIS APPEAL IS WHETHER A WALL PERMIT MAJOR AND A HEIGHT VARIANCE SHOULD BE GRANTED FOR A FIVE FOOT TALL WALL IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE HOME OF THE APPLICANT. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER DETERMINED THAT WALL SHOULD BE APPROVED ON BOTH GROUNDS. THE APPELLANT, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, APPEALS THE DECISION ARGUING THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR SHOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE THE DHE FACTUAL CONCLUSIONS SUPPORTING THE DECISION WERE BASED ON INACCURATE EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD. THE COUNCIL REFERRED THIS APPEAL TO THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER WHO RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL GRANT THE APPEAL, REVERSE THE DECISION, DENY THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR, AND VOID THE HEIGHT VARIANCE AS INAPPLICABLE. FOR BACKGROUND, THE APPLICANT APPIED FOR AN EXISTING FIVE-FOOT TALL WALL SHE CONSTRUCTED. THE RESIDENTIAL LOT AND SURROUNDING LOTS ARE ZONED R-1C. UNDER THE IDO A FRONT WALL TALLER THAN THREE FEET MUST OBTAIN A PERMIT. AT THE FIRST HEARING THE ZHE NOTED THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR APPLICATION WOULD ONLY ALLOW THREE FEET OF SOLID BLOCK WALL WITH TWO ADDITIONAL FEET ON TOP OF FENCING. SOMETHING LIKE WROUGHT IRON. THE ZHE DEFERRED DECISION ON THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR AND ADVISE THEM TO APPLY FOR A VARIANT. PLANNING STAFF PROVIDED THE APPLICANT WITH A MAP AND INSTRUCTIONS TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS. TO GET THE PERMIT THE IDO REQUIRES THAT WITHIN 330 FEET ON THE LOT WHICH THE WALL IS CONSTRUCTED, AT LEAST 20% OF THE WALLS IN THE AREA MUST HAVE FRONT YARD OR FENCES TALLER THAN THREE FEET. THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED FOR PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SHE CLAIMED DEPICTED QUALIFYING FRONT YARD WALLS IN THE AREA. SHE ALSO SUBMITTED A SEPARATE APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE. AT THE SECOND HEARING, THE ZHE APPROVED. WITH RESPECT TO THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR AND AT THE CRUX OF THIS APPEAL THE ZHE FOUND BASED ON THE FOUR PHOTOGRAPHS AT LEAST 20% OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN 330 FEET HAVE A FALL OR FENCE IN THE AREA IN SATISFACTION OF THE IDO REQUIREMENT. HOWEVER, THE APPELLANT ARGUES THAT THE ZHE ERRORED BY BASING THE FINDING ON ERRONEOUS EVIDENCE SUBMITTED. SPECIFICALLY, THE FOUR PHOTOGRAPHS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. THE APPEL LNT AND TO SUPPORT THIS ARGUMENT, THE APPELLANT LOCATED THE HOMES IN THE PHOTOS AND SUBMITTED A MAP OF THE LOCATIONS. AT THE HEARING, THE APPLICANT DID NOT DISPUTE OR CHALLENGE THE EVIDENCE SUBMITTED BY THE APPELLANT. HE DID NOT SUBMIT ANY ADDITIONAL PHOTOS TO CORRECT THE INACCURATE PHOTO AND SHE ADMITTED THERE ARE NO WALLS WITHIN THE AREA REQUIRED SO SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SUBMIT WITH THE APPLICATION. THE LUHO DETERMINED THAT BECAUSE THE WALL MEASUREMENT APPLICATION WAS BASED ON INACCURATE EVIDENCE AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TO SUPPORT A FINDING THAT THE APPLICANT QUALIFY FOR THE WALL MEASUREMENT MAJOR, THE ZHE ERRORED IN APPROVING THE APPLICATION AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENIED. AS TO THE HEIGHT VARIANCE, THEY FOUND THIS APPLICATION WAS UNNECESSARY AND INAPPLICABLE IN THIS CASE. THE WALL PERMIT MAJOR WAS THE ONLY PROCESS TO FOLLOW BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THE TYPE OF FRONT WALL REQUEST. THEY CONCLUDED BECAUSE IT CONTAINS A SPECIFIC PROCESS TO DEAL WITH A REQUEST FOR THE TALLER WALL, THE GENERAL VARIANCE TEST WAS INAPPLICABLE AND IMPROPER TO UTILIZE. INSTEAD THE TEST SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THE REQUEST SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALONE. THE LUHO RECOMMENDS THE DECISION APPROVING THE HEIGHT VARIANCE SHOULD BE VOIDED AS INAPPLICABLE. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. IF YOU'LL WE PREPARED TO RESPOND. COUNCILOR JONES, AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. I WILL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR HARRIS. I BELIEVE HE HAS A QUESTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, I WAS ALSO GOING TO SECOND THAT. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT NORMALLY THE ZHE DOESN'T GET -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT BEFORE THE ZHE PRESENTED FALSE EVIDENCE. >> THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE RECORD THAT THE APPLICANT ACTED IN BAD FAITH OR ATTEMPTED TO MISLEAD. IT APPEARS THERE WAS CONFUSION OVER THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS IN PART DUE TO INSTRUCTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT BY PLANNING STAFF. >>COUN. HARRIS: I GUESS THE WORD FALSE, MEANING INACCURATE OR WRONG. I DIDN'T MEAN DISHONEST. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. I'LL VOTE FOR COUNCILOR JONES'S MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF COUNCILORS? WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BENTON WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. JONES: IF I MAY, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA, WOULD YOU READ THAT OPTION BACK THAT WE VOTED ON? >> SURE. IT WAS A MOTION BY COUNCILOR JONES TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION AND COUNCILOR BENTON SECONDED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO OUR APPROVALS. COUNCILOR SENA, EC-460. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. EC-460 IS THE MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF MS. PFEIFFER TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'D SECOND THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. SENA: MADAM PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. I BELIEVE IT'S AN IMPORTANT GOVERNMENTAL DOCUMENT. PLEASE BEAR WITH ME AS I READ THIS LETTER. ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE ALL PUEBLO COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ADVANCE MS. PFEIFFER A CITIZEN OF NAVAJO NATION AS YOUR NOMINATION FOR DISTRICT ONE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. HER WORK AND ADVOCACY ARE WELL KNOWN AND APPRECIATED BY TRIBAL LEADERS. YOUR NOMINEE WILL ADD BALANCE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL LANNING COMMISSION OFTEN DOMINATED BY SPECIAL INTEREST REPRESENTED BY THOSE WITH VESTED INTEREST IN HOUSING AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. GIVEN THE WELL KNOWN AND INTEREST ON THE PUEBLOS ON THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE OF THE LONG-STANDING USE OF THESE LANDS WITH THE ABUNDANCE OF CULTURAL RESOURCES WE APPRECIATE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND ANY PLANNING PROCESS FOR OUR INPUT TO PROTECT THESE AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT CULTUREAL VALUE. BEYOND THE PROCESS WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO EXERT OUR INHERENT POWERS IN RIGHTS OF GOVERNMENT TO ENGAGE ON A GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT BASIS WHEN NECESSARY. THE ROLE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION IN FACILITATING DECISION MAKING TO CARRY OUT LAND DEVELOPMENT WITH CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND SOCIAL, POLITICAL, AND ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE MUST BE CENTERED ON A FRAMEWORK TO ACHIEVE BALANCE AND SUSTAINABLE OUTCOMES. AT THE HEART OF IT THE PLANNING PROCESS MUST BE RESPECTING THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THE PRESENCE OF SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE LAND. CAREFUL, THOUGHTFUL, AND BALANCED OUTCOMES AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE MUST BE A FUNDAMENTAL CONSIDERATION IN THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT YIELDS A WIN-WIN FOR SOCIETY AND THE ENVIRONMENT SUSTAINING USE FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS. THAT CAN ONLY BE POSSIBLE IF THERE IS THE INTENTIONALITY OF INCLUSIVENESS ON THE COMMISSION. THEREFORE, HAVING A NATIVE-AMERICAN WITH A LIVED EXPERIENCE WILL BRING INVALUABLE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE INTO THE PROCESS. FEW, IF ANYONE, ON THE COMMISSION HAS OR WOULD HAVE SUCH EXPERTISE REQUIRED. IT IS A PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION TO SEAT MS. PFEIFFER ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. SUCH ACTION WILL FULFILL THE ARNICULATED VISION TO COME TOGETHER TO WORK IN A SPIRIT OF UNITY AND COMMUNITY. IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT WE LIVE IN A UNIQUE METROPOLITAN SURROUNDED BY THE SURVIVING INDIGENOUS PUEBLO NATIONS. THE UNIQUENESS DEFINES THE SPIRIT OF LAND ENCHANTMENT. LONG BEFORE THERE WAS AN ALBUQUERQUE, LONG BEFORE THERE WAS STATE OF NEW MEXICO AND LONG BEFORE THERE WAS A UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE. SACRED SITES ARE ON ALL SIDES OF ALBUQUERQUE. PROTECTING THESE AREAS MUST BE OUR SELECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY. WORKING IN A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION IS OUR DESIRE. I WANTED TO BE SURE TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD AS IT IS AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT THAT WAS SENT BY THE ALL PUEBLO COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WITH THAT, I'LL GOING TO MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. >> WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU MS. NAIR. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA, IS YOUR HAND STILL UP? >>COUN. SENA: I KNOW THAT MS. PFEIFFER IS IN ATTENDANCE. I WANTED TO GIVE HER TWO MINUTES OF TIME TO REALLY MAKE A STATEMENT BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR HER NOMINATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT. CAN YOU INCLUDE HER PLEASE? >> HELLO, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, AND CITY COUNCIL. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN OVERSEEING MY NOMINATION. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THIS NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, COUNCILOR SENA, AND MAYOR KELLER. THIS APPOINTMENT IS FULLY SUPPORTED BY THE NATIVE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. I SOUGHT OUT TEN OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND THEY CAME TO SUPPORT ME AS WELL. I WANT TO NOTE I HAVE THE FULL BACKING AND SUPPORT WITH THE NATIVE-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, URBAN AND TRIBAL NATIONS. IN THIS ROLE IN RESPONSIBILITY, I WILL DEFINITELY PROVIDE RESPONSIBLE THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE DISTRICT ONE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REPRESENT ALL PARTIES SUCH AS THE RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOODS BUSINESSES DEVELOPERS AND TRIBAL NATIONS. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ADHERING TO THE CITY ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS. I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT SINCE MOVING HERE TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IN 2008. I BELIEVE NEW DEVELOPMENT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY A SMART DECISION MAKING PROCESS. AS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF ALBUQUERQUE I'M EXCITED AND PASSIONATE TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD WHILE EXPANSION AND GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, IT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY A SMART AND BALANCED GROWTH. THANK YOU FOR THE NOMINATION HEARING AND TO COUNCILOR SENA AND THE MAYOR. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. PFEIFFER FOR BEING WITH US AND STEPPING UP. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE DIRECTED AT YOU. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THIS ISN'T REALLY A QUESTION. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE. IT'S EXCITING TO HAVE SOMEONE NEW ON THE BOARD. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THE DUTIES OF THE EPC ARE TO UPHOLD AND FOLLOW THE STANDARDS SET FORTH BY A VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THE EPC DOESN'T HAVE THE CHARGE OF CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS. I BELIEVE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND EXPERIENCE AND YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS WILL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU FOR BE WILLING TO SERVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I ALSO THANK YOU MS. PFEIFFER FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE, AS STATED PIE BY COUNCIL. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE INDIGENOUS PLANNING AND DESIGN INSTITUTE SENT A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF THIS NOMINATION. I KNOW WHAT WAS ADDRESSED IN PUBLIC COMMENT. TO STATE WHY I HAD THIS VACANCY OPEN FOR SO LONG. OFTENTIMES WE PUT FORTH STANDARDS OF DIVERSIFYING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WE VIEW THAT AND ASK AROUND AS TO WHO KNOWS WHO. FOR MS. PFEIFFER IT TOOK OVER A YEAR TO FIND THE RIGHT PERSON THAT HAD THE BALANCE AND REAL BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE TO BE CENTERED IN EVALUATING WHAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SERVE ON THE EPC. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PUT IN THE RECORD AS TO WHY IT TOOK SO LONG. I WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SEARCHED FOR HER. NOT JUST WITHIN THE SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE, FOR THOSE IN PLANNING AND ASKING AROUND TO SEE WHO COULD REALLY PUT FORWARD THIS GREAT NAME TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD. WITHOUT A DOUBT MS. PFEIFFER'S NAME CAME UP. I WANTED TO CLARIFY WHY IT TOOK SO LONG. FOR ME IT'S NOT JUST AN INDIVIDUAL STATEMENT OR CHECKING BOXES, IT'S FINDING SOMEONE THAT HAS GREAT LIVED EXPERIENCE AND HAS THE KNOWLEDGE, KNOW HOW AND WEALTH OF TECHNICALITY AND SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE AS SPECIAL AS MS. PFEIFFER WILL BE. THE FIRST INDIGENOUS PERSON TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION AND THE ONLY WOMAN TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION. FOR THAT IS WHY I SEARCHED BEYOND DISTRICT ONE AND WENT THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL OF PLANNING AND DESIGN AS WELL AS REACHING OUT TO FOLKS WITHIN OUR PLANNING COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN FIND SOMEONE LIKE MS. PFEIFFER. IT TOOK A LONG TIME, BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH IT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE DILIGENT AND TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH INTEGRITY. IT TOOK ME PROBABLY SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS BEFORE I DID FIND SOMEONE FOR MY DISTRICT. I HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE VERY INTERESTED BUT SOME DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, SOME WEREN'T ABLE TO COMMIT THE TIME. AND A COUPLE OF THEM STEPPED UP AND SAID THEY COULDN'T COMMIT BECAUSE THE TIME COMMITMENT. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU TOOK THAT TIME. I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR, IS THAT YOUR CLOSE? >>COUN. SENA: THAT WOULD BE MY CLOSE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE WITH ONE OF THE COUNCILORS NOT BEING AVAILABLE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK WE MISSED EACH OTHER. MY VOTE WAS YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. ORTEGA, DID YOU GET THAT? >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR BENTON, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >>COUN. BENTON: NO, I DID NOT. >>COUN. BORREGO: VERY WELL, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 14. FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILORS, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO MOVE A COUPLE OF THINGS AROUND ON OUR AGENDA. I AM GOING TO BEGIN WITH ITEM B, WHICH IS ITEM O-84. I WILL MOVE TO ITEM A WHICH IS O-80 AND I WILL MOVE TO ITEM R-208. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA, O-84. >>COUN. BASSAN: WELL, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-84 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE,NEW MEXICO TAX REVENUE BONDS IN ONE OR MORE SERIES IN AN PRINCIPLE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $110 MILLION TO FINANCE THE COST OF DESIGNING, DEVELOPING, RENOVATING, AND IF I KNOWING AND OTHERWISE IMPROVING CERTAIN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S A FLOOR SUBTHAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THAT FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES, I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT FLOOR SUBPLEASE. IF I CAN GET A SECOND, I'D ASK -- >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT. . >>COUN. BASSAN: IF I CAN HAVE MR. MEREHEAD EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD. I REALIZED THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE BLANKS THAT NEEDED TO BE FILLED WITH THE ORDINANCE NUMBER. JUST SO THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T HAVE BLANKS, I HAVE FILLED THE ORDINANCE NUMBERS. IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME THING. 99% IS UNCHANGED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. THAT WAS A VERY SIMPLE EXPLANATION. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL -- WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, BUT IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO -- >>COUN. BORREGO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO THE ADMINISTRATION? >>COUN. BASSAN: I LIKE TO URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE FLOOR SUBAND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BILL AS AMENDED IF APPROVED. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL GO TO MS. ORTEGA. IT APPEARS THAT WE NEED SEVEN VOTES FOR THE PASSAGE OF THE FLOOR SUB. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. FOR PASSAGE OF THE FLOOR SUBWE NEED A MAJORITY. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, IT PASSES ON A 9-0. WE GO BACK TO O-84. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> . >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S WORTHWHILE TO MAKE SURE TO START AT THE BEGINNING. THIS STARTED WHEN WE LEARNED ABOUT THE STADIUM BOND. THIS STARTED WHEN WE WERE ASKED WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND IF WE WANT TO PUT THE $50 MILLION TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. AT WHICH ONTO I SAID HOW CAN I GET FUNDING FOR THE NORTH DOMINGO BACA AQUATIC CENTER WHICH EVOLVED TO LEARNING ABOUT THE GRT AND REFINANCING. IT TURNED INTO WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO HELP THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THE FULL CITY. WITH CONVERSATIONS AND RESEARCHING WHICH PROJECTS STILL NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED SIMILAR TO THE AQUATIC CENTER, I FOUND OUT WE HAD A GREAT POTENTIAL TO REACH SOME CONSENSUS AND AVENUE WITH THAT. I WANTED TO WAIT TO PROPOSE ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER WE FOUND OUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE STADIUM QUESTION BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY WE HAVE $20 MILLION OR $40 MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE UNTIL WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH THE FIRST PORTION. WHEN THAT FAILED, WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE WORKING WITH. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL, I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE WHO WOULD SPEAK TO ME. I DID REACH OUT. I DID TRY TO FIND CONSENSUS AND COMPROMISE ON HOW TO DO ONE OF THREE THINGS IF NOT MORE. ONE OF THE THREE THINGS IS COMPLETING PROJECTS THAT EXIST THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED AND PARTIALLY FUNDED THAT ARE EXISTING RIGHT NOW. OR, MAKING SURE THAT THEY FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF CRIME AND REDUCING IT. OR MAKING SURE THEY FALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF REDUCING HOMELESSNESS. IF IT DIDN'T FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE THREE CATEGORIES OR MORE THAN ONE OF THOSE THREE CATEGORIES IT DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST. THERE'S EXCEPTION. I'LL GIVE IT ALL TO YOU. YOU CAN TAKE THAT $2 MILLION AND AMEND IT OUT AND AGREE ON THAT. IT'S A MATTER OF COMPROMISE. THIS IS ABOUT HELPING ALBUQUERQUE. PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED CRIME IS OUT OF CONTROL. WE TALK ABOUT IT EVERYTIME WE MEET. HOMELESSNESS IS TOP PROBLEM WE HAVE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO FINISH THINKS AROUND THE CITY AND DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE. WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO UTILIZE OUR OWN FUNDING WITHOUT RELYING ON STATE CAPITAL OUTLAY, WITHOUT RELYING ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OFFERS. I THINK THAT'S A MIRACULOUS AND WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE. NOW, WE CAN SAY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR IT, FINALLY. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF IT, I WANT TO TALK AND HAVE CONVERSATION AND FIND A WAY TO PASS THIS BECAUSE IT'S INTENDED TO HELP OUR CITY. EVERY DISTRICT STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM THIS. SOME MORE THAN OTHERS. MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT FOUR, IS NOT GOING TO BE SET TO GET THE MOST OUT OF THE BILL. THIS IS NOT A MONEY GRAB FOR DISTRICT FOUR. THIS WAS NOT THE MAYOR'S IDEA, I WANT TO CLAIM IT WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA. WE WORKED VERY LONG AND HARD ON IT. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS NOW. I HOPE YOU'RE NOT JUST A SOLID ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, I'LL SURE I'LL HAVE MORE TO SAY. AT THE SAME TIME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YES, I JUST WANT TO SAY COUNCILOR BASSAN USUALLY, AND I SAID THIS AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE, WHEN THIS BILL COMES DOWN IT COMES FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. YOU AUALLY ARE THE DRIVER OF THIS AND LATER IN THE PROCESS WORKED WITTHE MAYOR'S OFFICE. I'M GLAD YOU CLEARED THAT . I JUST WANT TO SAY TAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS ANDOME OF THE PROJECTS INTHERE, IT'S MY UNDSTANDING THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN REACHED OUT TO EVERYONE WHO WOULD TALK TO HER AND SHE GOT FEEDCK FROM FOLK. I REALLY THOUGHT THIS BIL WAS A BILL SHE DRAFTED WAS FAIR TO ALL THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS. ME IN DISTRICT THREE, IT'S INTERESTING HOW SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HA BEEN DISCUSSED IS IN DISTRICTHREE IN PARTICULA OVERALL WE'RE STILL BEHIND THE EIGHTAL IN RMS OF THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS. SOME OF THE COUNCILORSHO HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERN ABOUT THE BILL STAND TO GAIN MOREHAN IN STRICT THREE. AS COUNCILOR BASSAN STATED, I HOPE WE CAN FIND A WAY TO COME TO SOME MIDDLE GROUNDN TERMS OF BNG ABLE TO MAKE SURE IT SSES. IT'S NOT FOR THE REASONS OF WH'S IN THE BI OR WHO OR WHEN ORAME DUCK OR ANY O THAT UFF, IT'S REALLY BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS IMPORTAN BECAUSE WE HAVE HISTOR LOWSN TERMS OF THE INTEREST RAT WE'RE SEEI. WILL THA CONTINUE TO BE? I'M NOT SURE. AS IT WA DESCRIBEDORVERY POINT OF INTEREST OR QUARTER POINT, AND I THINK THE STAFF LET THEM ALL DESCRIBE THAT WILL BE $2 MILLION LESS THAN WE'LL BE RECEIVING I TER OF THE INTEST. WHEN YOU LOOK ATHE CST OF CONSTRTI AND TE RSEN TH COST O CONSTRUCTION OVER THE NEXT YEAR ANDBEYOND, THAT TOO WILL HAVE A TRENDIMPACT ON THE AMOUNT O MONEY WE'LL BE ABLE T SPEND FOR PROJECTS. WHAT WE M BE AE TO SPENDOW INERMS OF $110 MILLION W COSTF CONSTRUION HEY MAY BE LES INTO THE FUTURE. I' STOP FOR NOW. AND I'LL LHE STAFF BETTER ANSWER SOME THESE QUESTIO. THANYO COUN. BORREGO: I AM INTO SEE IFHERE ARE OTHER UNCIRS THAT WIKE SP COUNCILOBASSAN. COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING FROMHE ADMINISTRATIONTHEIR THOUGHTS ON T PROJECTS AND HOW ITAY OR MAY T BENIT BUQUQUE. >>CO. BORREGO: THA YOU, COUNLOR BASSAN. I'LL MOVE TO THE ADMINISTTI. >> GOO TERNOON, COUNCOR BASSAN, MEMRS OF THE COCIL. AS COUNCIL BSAN CLEARLY STATED, THIS PCESS BEG WITH A CONVERSATIONHAT WAS CURRIN STANESLY IN THAT WERE REALIZI WE HA AN PORTUNITY REFAN AND G ADDITIONAL DLARS AVAILAB FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AS YOU ARE AWARE THE OE PROJE BROHT TOOUNC WAS THE FDINGOR THE UNITED SOCC STA. BASILLY, IT BEGAN TO TRIGGER THVEATIONS OF WHETHER OR CAPACITY TO DO OER COMNI PROJECTS. THECOCIRS, UNCILOR BASSAN INRTICAR, GOT TETHER AR LOOKINGT OPPORTUNITIES TO INVEST I DITIONALY PROJECTS TT WERE REALLY SHT ON FUNDG. I INK THAT WAS THE MAIN IDEA BEHIND IT. WE UNDERSTD IT THEIR COERNSAS WE HAVE MY CIT OJECTS THAT AREN'T COMELY FUED. THEYANSE ADDITIONALFUNDING. AS THIN PROCEEDED, T TION DO CREATE AN OPPORTUNTO HAVE ADDIONAL REVENUE FROM T $50 MIL T ASIDE FROM TMUI-USE SOCCER STADM. THAT GREW TOHE PROJECTS THA ARE A PAROF THIS BILL. LOOK MAN OF THOSEROJES ARE PROJECTS THA ARE ONHE BKS FOR S TI THAT DO NOT HAVE ENOU FDING T COLETE. TH IDEAWASO TRY TO GET A WHAT THEYEALIZE TOWARD SIBLE VESTING TOWARDHE UNITY. I ALSO SAY TT AS RESU OF SOME COERSAONS, T FUNDI AVAILAE FOR HOUSING WAS CEAINLY AN IMPORTA PECE OF THE NVERSAON THAT WE HEARD AFTER THE DEFEA O TOND FOR THEOCCEAND MULTIPURPE FACILI W HSING W A IMPORTT COMPONENT THA THE TIZENS TALKED ABO TEW TE URSE OTHE CAMPGN. ANDOOKING A ALL OF THE PROJECTS ON THEIST OR ALL OJECTS THAT ARE MANY DIRICTS. WE WEIGHED IN ON SOME OFHE PU SAFETY FUNNG BECAUSE WE KNEW RTICULAR OJECTS WASRUCIAL R HELPING THE PICE DEPAMENT AND COMMUTY HE THE FACILITIE AND WHAT THEY NEED T CONTIE TO D A GOOD JO OBOUSLE HOUSING PORTION AND HEL ISSUE THAS PA OF THE COUNITY. LOINT THE OTHE PJECTS THAT A ON T LIST LE THE OL AA AND THENORTHOMINGO BACA AREA SEEM T SD A MESSAGE ATE'RE INVESTI IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE'RE IESTI IN OURSEES AND THERE'S SOME PORTUNITY TO REALLY MOVEHE CITY FORWARD. WE SPORTED THE PROPOSEDILL D WE'REPPY TO HA AN CONVERONS ABOUT ANY OF THE PROJECTS AS YOU SEE FIT THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>UN. BORREGO: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. EL? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUNNTON: YES. THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE SHADE CANOPY AT THE CITY PLAZA. I'VE NEVEREARD OF THAT BEFORE. >>ADAM PRESIDE, COUNCIL BENTONS YOU AND OTHERS WHO ATNDANY OF TH THE COMMUTY EVENTS IN PARTILAR THEIVIC AZA EVENTS SUCH AS SUMMER FIRST, THE ISSUE WITH THE SDE OVER THE SGE AND THE AREA THAT IS UTILIZEDOR LOT OFUBLIC EVENTS IS SUCH THAT IT JUST DOES T COMPLETELY, E CURRENT SHADE, DOES NOT COMPLETELY COVER ALL OF THAT FACILITY AND AS A RELT DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE UNDER THE CANOPY IT C BE EXTREMELY HOT DURING THE SUMMER. WE EXPERIENCED THAT IN VARIOUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CRSE OF THE YEAR. TH WAS ANPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT HOW WE C REALLY PROVIDE SOME SDE STRUCTURE TO THAT FACILITY SO THAT THE FALITY CAN BE UTILIZED BY THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY IS THE CITY'S PARK IT'S NOT JUST THE PARK OF THE DISTRICT, BU IT'S THE CITY'S PARKND IT SEEMED LIKE A VERY GOOD INVESTMEN TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE USE OF THE FACILITY GOING FORWARD. IT REALLY IS DESIGNED TO PUT ADDITIONAL SHADE, IF YOU WILL, OVER THE CANOPY THAT IS ABOVE THE STAGE AND THE AREA ON THE 94TH -- NORTH END OF THE PARK. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSI. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR AT LEAST LONGER THAN MY TIME ON THE COUNCIL AND THE LIMITATIONS TO THE PLAZA AS ITS ABILITY TO SUPPORT STRUCTURE AND TREES AND THINGS TO ALLEVIATE CONDITIONS THERE. I FOUND IT AN INTERESTING ADDITIONAL LISTING. THIS IS THE PROBLEM, I REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THIS ADMINISTRATION AND MYSELF AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WHO SQUEAKED BY AND PREVAILING OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF OTHER COUNCILORS THAT WE SPEND QUITE A BIG NUT OF MONEY ON A STORM DRAINAGE FACILITY FOR DOWNTOWN. THE NARRATIVE FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCILORS, AND I WON'T NAME THEM BUT THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT, IT'S ASOUNDING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY BEING SPENT ON THE CENTER CITY OR DISTRICT TWO. THIS IS THE WHOLE PROBLEM WITH THIS DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A NICE EVEN SPLIT. FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I START HINTING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR REACHING OUT TO ME AND WE DID DISCUSS THIS. MANY OF THESE PROJECTS WERE, AS YOU STATED MR. RAEL, IN DEVELOPMENT. I SUPPORT MANY OF THEM. THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT. I DO NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE ONES THAT HAVE NOT. WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT PROJECTS, IN THIS TYPE OF A BILL, WE SHOULD LOOK AT PROJECTS THAT ARE 30% DESIGNED AND THERE'S A PROFESSIONAL ESTIMATE. I CHALLENGE HOW MANY OF THESE PROJECTS REALLY HAVE THAT. SETTING THAT ASIDE, HERE'S THE REAL PROBLEM, FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED HOMELESSNESS IS A CONCERN OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. BELIEVE ME, IT'S BEEN A CONCERN OF ME AND MY CONSTITUENT FOR 16 YEARS. IT'S SPREADING ALL OVER TOWN AND NOW EVERYONE IS INTERESTED IN IT. HERE'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS BILL, THESE ARE OPERATING FUNDING. THESE ARE OPERATING DOLLARS, POTENTIALLY, $5.7 MILLION, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NUMBER. IT WOULD PAY FOR 50 VOUCHERS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BUILDING SOMETHING OR BUYING SOMETHING, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ANNUAL NEED OF PEOPLE WHETHER THEY'RE NON-PROFIT PARTNERS, OR OURSELVES. I HOPE IT WOULD BE THE FORMER, TO OPERATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT MEANS VOUCHERS. HOUSING VOUCHERS. THIS COUNCIL STOOD UP FOR VOUCHERS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND MADE AN ATTEMPT TO ADD TO THEM. IT WAS SHORT-TERM. IT WAS LIMITED. THESE $5.7 MILLION IS SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT FOR OPERATIONS. SPEAKING OF OPERATIONS, WHAT ABOUT THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COST OF $110 MILLION WORTH OF STUFF. IT MAY ALL BE GOOD STUFF. BUT WHAT'S THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COST OF THAT. WE DISCUSSED THAT IN CAPITAL PROJECTS COMING ONLINE IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET EVERY YEAR. I THINK THIS IS TAKING THE WRONG APPROACH. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMEONE SPOKE ABOUT CAPITAL OUTLAY AND NOT RELY ON THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD RELY ON THAT FOR THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AS LONG AS OIL AND GAS IS COMING IN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE THAT WE HAVE FEDERAL CAPITAL DOLLARS FOR HOUSING AND OTHER NEEDS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IS RECURRING REVENUE, SPECIFICALLY FOR HOUSING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOUCHERS AND LANDLORD SUBSIDIES AND THE OVERHEAD OF OPERATING A ROBUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING SYSTEM THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. EVERYONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT HOMELESSNESS NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE IT. NOT THROUGH BU AND BUILDING, WE NEED TO DO THAT. IT'S THAT THE MONEY NEEDS TO GO TO OPERATING. AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. MY POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEEN I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT FULLY DEFINED, INCLUDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MANY OF THE FOLKS SUPPORTING THIS BILL VOTED AGAINST CAPITAL HOUSING IN THE IMPROVEMENT BUDGET. LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND WE'RE LUCKY WE HAVE THIS RESOURCE IN FRONT OF US. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO JUST JUMP IN. FURTHERMORE, LAST THING AND I'LL BE QUIET, SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS DISCUSSED WITHOUT A LENGTHY PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW IT'S BEING SPENT. I STRONGLY OPPOSE IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE MANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS. I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY WHY COUNCILOR BASSAN -- MEAN OF THESE AREAS NEEDS A POOL. DISTRICT EIGHT DOESN'T HAVE A SWIMMING POOL AND WE DON'T NEED IT. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TRYING TO INVENT PROJECTS NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED. LIKE COUNCILOR BENTON SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE IN NEED OF OUR HELP, FOOD, HOUSING, CLOTHING, MENTAL CARE, ALL KINDS OF THINGS FOR A COUPLE YEARS TO COME, IF WE'RE LUCKY. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO, JUST LIKE OTHER ISSUES, DON'T GO TO COMMITTEE ANYMORE. THAT CONCERNS IMMENSELY. WE TALK ABOUT BIG PROJECTS LIKE THIS, BIG AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS WE DISCUSSED, IT'S WHY COMMITTEES ARE SET UP. IT'S SO PEOPLE CAN COMMENT. HOPEFULLY WE CAN AMEND AND MAKE BETTER LEGISLATION. WE BEEN MISSING OUT ON THAT IN MANY ISSUES THAT WE LOOKED AT TONIGHT. I LIKE PARTS OF THIS, I CERTAINLY WANT TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP COUNCILOR BASSAN GET HER SWIMMING POOL, THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE DON'T SPEND EVERY PENNY WE HAVE IN OUR PURSE BECAUSE ONE ISSUE IS IMPORTANT. WE CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. (INAUDIBLE). AND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY, TO COUNCILOR BENTON'S POINT, FOR FUTURE NEEDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE. THIS PANDEMIC WE'RE LOOKING AT MULTI-YEAR ISSUES. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF IT. THE AFTERMATH. WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT GOOD MANAGEMENT AND NOT (INAUDIBLE). THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. I'M GLAD WE HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THANK FOR MOVING THIS UP. VOTERS JUST REJECTED $50 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT THAT DIDN'T HAVE A FULL PLAN, DIDN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS OR A LOCATION. I'M CONCERNED NOW THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAYOR AND SOME COUNCILORS WANT TO SPEND MORE THAN TWICE THAT ON PROJECTS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE NO PLANS AND NO ADDRESSES AND CERTAINLY NO BUDGET TO FUND THE OPERATIONS OF THEM WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETE. TO DO THAT WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT OR WITHOUT GOING TO VOTERS FOR SUCH A BIG COMMITMENT IS CONCERNING. AS COUNCILORS WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK. IT HIT ME THIS WEEKEND THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS IS AS LARGE AS THE CITY'S COMMITMENT ON THE ART PROJECT. THAT TOOK YEARS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND PUBLIC INPUT TO DECIDE IF IT WAS WORTH IT AND THE OPPORTUNITY COST WE LOST BY INVESTING IN THAT AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE. AS OF TODAY, AS I UNDERSTAND FROM MR. BACA, WE HAVE JUST ABOUT $5 MILLION IN ALLOCATED REOCCURRING FUNDS IN THE BANK. AFTER THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE WE SHORTED NON-PROFITS AND FROZE CITY HIRING POSITIONS. I THINK WE SHOULD USE RECURRING REVENUE AND WHEN IT COMES TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 MILLION. GETTING THE TRANSIT WORKERS OFF PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WHEN THEY WORK FOR THE CITY. WE SHOULD USE IT TO EXPAND THE CONTRACT FOR $10 MILLION IN HOUSING FUNDS WE GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION EARLIER THIS YEAR. THAT WILL BUILD NEW FACILITIES BUT WE NEED NEW DOLLARS TO OPERATE THEM. WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THEY WANT MORE POLICE OFFICERS, WE CAN'T GIVE AWAY FUTURE POLICE SALARIES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE COPS. TO BE CLEAR, I THINK I SUPPORT SHOVEL READY PROJECTS. TO SPEAK TO FOLKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THE GYM FOR EXAMPLE, ORIGINALLY A $3 MILLION WHICH WE HAD 90% FUNDED HAD BEEN DISCUSSED FOR TWO DECADES. WE WORKED TOGETHER FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO FUND THAT PROJECT. IT WAS 90% FUNDED UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN THIS BILL CAME OUT AND SUDDENLY SOMEBODY NEEDED THREE MORE MILLION DOLLARS AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAN FOR HOW IT WOULD BE SPENT. THIS BILL INITIALLY HAD $7 MILLION FOR A NEW UNKNOWN PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT AT CATHERINE AND SAN MATEO. VOTERS JUST APPROVED IT A MONTH AGO. NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TELL ME WHAT THE NEW $7 MILL KRN -- OR IF IT WAS COPIED FROM THE OLD BOND AND TAKEN OUT. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THIS IN TEN DAYS. I SUPPORT SHOVEL READY PROJECTS. I WANT TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK THAT INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE MORE THAN $100 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDING EXPECTED TO COME. $50 MILLION IN CARES FUNDING AND JUST ANNOUNCED THAT AT LEAST $50 MILLION IN FEDERAL BUILD BACK BETTER FUNDS FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S WHAT ALL THIS SPENDING IS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES. $50 MILLION TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, POTENTIALLY TWICE THAT WHEN WE GET THE FINAL NUMBERS. SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE REALLY WORTHY. OTHERS PEOPLE HAVEN'T HEARD OF. IF I HAD MY CHOICE, I THINK MY NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTE, WOULD LIKE TO USE IT FOR THE FREE PUBLIC WIFI BROAD BAND TO HELP THEM GET A DIGITAL LEG UP. THAT'S AN OPTION FOR THIS MONEY. IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WON'T BE BUILT FOR ANOTHER DECADE. THAT'S NOT IN THIS BILL, BUT IT SHOULD BE. INSTEAD OF INVESTING $15 MILLION FOR A CITY POLICE HEADQUARTERS, I WOULD LIKE SEE FOLKS OUT IN THE FIELD RESPONDING TO CALL FOR SERVICE AND WHEN WE GET THE DODGE -- DOJ DONE AND WE ADDRESS OUR ISSUES WE LOOK AT REPAINTING POLICE HEADQUARTERS. LET'S DO THIS PROJECT RIGHT. THERE'S PROJECTS THAT HAVE ENOUGH FEDERAL DOLLARS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE DELIBERATE AND PLAN FOR IT AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO THAT IF WE'RE READY TO FUND IN THE SPRING AS THOSE FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE. WE SHOULD WORK DILIGENTLY ON THAT STARTING NOW, BUT NOT WITH THIS BILL. WITH THAT, I SAY I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. WE DO NOT HAVE THE CASH AND REOCCURRING REVENUE TO DO IT. I'M GOING TO DO WHAT MY DAD ALWAYS TOLD ME TO DO, STOP BUYING THE NEW TV AND GET BACK TO WORK AND TAKE CARE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO. I THINK WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE, RAISE THEIR WAGE, FILL THE VACANT POSITION, AND THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY. FOR THOSE REASONS, I'LL VOTE NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP THAT I JUST THOUGHT OF A MOMENT AGO. I HEARD EARLIER, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS SPEAKING, ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR BILL THAT IT REFUNDED PRIOR GRT BONDS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS ACCURATE. I WAS WONDERING IF -- I TALKED WITH THE GENTLEMEN AT RVS. AND ASKED THAT VERY QUESTION. IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WHO CAN SPEAK TO THIS. WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY REFUNDING AND MAYBE ERIC WAS MISTAKEN? OR DOES IT IS NOT? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILOR GIBSON, ERIC HAIRGON FROM RVS CAPITAL. BUT THERE'S NOT A REFUNDING OF THE BOND. BASICALLY, SOME BONDS ARE PAID OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. THEREFORE THE MONEY FREED UP FOR DEBT SERVICE, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNCILOR DAVIS REFERRED TO APPROXIMATELY $5 MILLION IN RECURRING DEBT SERVICE WHICH WOULD BE FREED UP, THAT'S THE MONEY WHICH WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS BOND. THERE'S NO REFUNDING OF THE BOND OR REFINANCING OF THE BOND. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. THAT CLEARS IT UP. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M LOOKING FOR OTHER COUNCILORS THAT WANT TO SPEAK. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. AND SEVERAL COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, IN THE ADMINISTRATION CAN YOU GET SOMEBODY TO PLEASE RUN DOWN THE LIST OF PROBLEMS THAT THE APD MAIN BUILDING AND/OR CONFIRM IF IT'S A REDOING OF THE PAINT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, ONE OF THE THINGS, SEVERAL OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE MAIN IS FOR REMEDIATION. HALF OF THE SECOND FLOOR IS SEALED OFF BECAUSE THE FLOOR HAS -- IT WAS THE PRIOR HOME OF THE LAB. THERE IS CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO CONTAIN THE AS BESES -- ASBESTOS AND REMOVE IT. THE BUILDING IS 50 YEARS OLD AND ISSUES OF A 50-YEAR-OLD BUILDING. THE HVAC IS END OF LIFE. WE HAVE OFFICES AT 85 DEGREES NEXT TO SOMEBODY THAT IS 65 DEGREE. THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, IF YOU PULL A FIRE ALARM ON THE OLD SIDE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY ACTIVATE ON THE SIDE NEED. THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING AS FAR AS PLUMBING. THERE ARE SEWAGE BACK UPS. WE DON'T HAVE PAINT OR CARPET ON THE LIST, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES TO EVERYBODY, I'M GOING TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT ON THIS LIST BASED OFF OF -- CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY COMPUTER LOOKS GLITCHY. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE FROZE. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, WHILE SHE COMES BACK CAN I JUST JUMP IN AND ASK QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES, WE'LL WAIT FOR COUNCILOR BASSAN TO RECONNECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'D LIKE TO ASK SOME OF THE BUDGET STAFF IN TERMS OF THE INTEREST RIGHT NOW AND SOME OF THE PROJECTIONS AND WITH THE ECONOMY AND THE PRICE OF CONSTRUCTION, WHAT ARE YOU FORECASTING IN TERMS OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION MOVING FORWARD. IF WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE BUDGET STAFF WHO CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. IN TERMS OF THE INTEREST RATE, IF YOU CAN GIVE US A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF HOW THE INTEREST RATES ARE AT AN ALL-TIME LOW AND IS SOMEONE THERE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I THINK WE NOW HAVE ERIC HAIRGON ONLINE. LET ME GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE INTEREST RATES ARE AT LOWEST HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, AS OF NOW. THE INFLATION IS EVIDENTLY AT ONE OF THE HIGHER PERCENTAGES IN THE RECENT HISTORY. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION HAS INFORMED EVERYONE THAT THEY WILL INCREASE THE PAYMENT BY 5.9% BEGINNING JANUARY 1. THAT INFLATION IS REAL. THAT INFLATION RATE IS BASED ON BASIC FOOD ITEMS. TRADITIONALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THE CONSTRUCTION COST HAD BEEN INCREASINGLY COMING UP AT MUCH HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE INFLATION RATE. WITHIN ALL THE SECTORS THAT ARE RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR BOND, I THINK THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND I THINK MAYBE DIRECTOR MONTOYA CAN CHIME IN THAT OUR BASE ESTIMATE ON ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WHETHER NEW OR RENOVATION OUR PERCENTAGE IS 20% HIGHER THAN WHAT WERE ESTIMATED LAST YEAR. THOSE TWO CONDITIONS TOGETHER JUSTIFY THAT THE COST OF BORROWING IS THE LOWEST AT THIS TIME AND BY GETTING THE MONEY NOW AND SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH CONTINUE TO GO UP EVERY YEAR WITH THE INFLATION. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME FOR US TO BORROW THE MONEY NOW AND START USING THE MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WHICH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CATCH UP MOVING FORWARD. THAT IS THE REASON THAT THE TIMING IS VERY IMPORTANT. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. ERIC, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, PLEASE GO AHEAD. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF ERIC CAN ADD, BEFORE I ADD SOME MORE. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I'M WITH RDC CAPITAL MARKETS. JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SANJAY WAS REFERRING TO. THE INFLATION RATE FOR OCTOBER WAS 6.2%. IF YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS THE AVERAGE INFLATION RATE HAS BEEN CLOSER TO 2%. IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE WHERE WE HAVE SEEN IT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS GUN TAPERING THEIR PURCHASES OF U.S. TREASURIES, WHICH ALSO TENDS TO LEAD TO LESS DEMAND AND HIGHER RATES FOR U.S. TREASURIES. IT'S ALSO ANTICIPATED THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY RAISE INTEREST RATES. THE OVERNIGHT LENDING RATE NEXT YEAR AND WHEN AND HOW OFTEN IS UNCLEAR. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT AN OVERHEATING ECONOMY. IT'S ALSO MENTIONED INTEREST RATES DID HIT AN ALL-TIME HISTORICAL LOW LAST YEAR DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC. WHILE RATES ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHERE THEY WERE, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK HISTORICALLY, RATES ARE ALMOST AT THEIR ALL TIME LOW. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS WOULD BE FOR MR. BACA OR MR. HAIRGON, BUT IF THE INTEREST RATE WENT UP BY 1%, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT $110 MILLION BOND IN TERMS OF BONDING CAPACITY NOW FOR THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WE COULD DO? >> AT 1%, IF THE INTEREST RATE INCREASED BY 1%, IT WOULD REDUCE THE CAPACITY BY ABOUT $8 MILLION. IT'S ROUGHLY $2 MILLION FOR EVERY QUARTER OR 25 BASE POINTS INCREASE. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF IT WERE TO GO UP 1% AND THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION WITH INFLATION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS AN TISATED -- ANTICIPATED TO BE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING INFLATION WENT UP BY 5.9%. SAY THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION WENT UP 3%, HOW COULD THAT IMPACT $110 MILLION CAPACITY? >> AS FAR AS THE INFLATION RATE, THE CAPACITY REMAINS THE SAME. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND FEWER PROJECT BECAUSE THE COST OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE GONE UP. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT ACTUALLY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY. IN TERMS OF THE CAPACITY IS WHAT I MEANT TO SAY, IF THE PROJECT COSTS 3% MORE, THAT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T REDUCE THE CAPACITY IT WOULD BE THE SAME. WHEN WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD -- IF THE INTEREST RATE WENT UP, THE CAPACITY GOES DOWN. SO WE HAVE $102 MILLION TO BUILD PROJECTS AND WITH COST OF PROJECTS AT 3% THAT ESSENTIALLY WILL BUILD A LOT LESS, CORRECT? >> SURE. IF THE COST OF THE PROJECT, YOU HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING TOWARD PROJECTS AND THE COST OF THOSE PROJECTS GO UP, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO REDUCE PROJECTS. >>COUN. PEÑA: YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR. RAEL. DID THE STADIUM GO TO COW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE BOND STADIUM QUESTION WAS INTRODUCED AND HELD OVER FOR THE FULL COUNCIL THE FOLLOWING MEETING IN AUGUST. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY, SO IT DID NOT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THOUGHTFUL PROJECTS AND REALLY VETTING THEM AND TAKING THAT TIME WE COULD SAY THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN TERMS OF THE STADIUM PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, ARE YOU ASKING IF I THINK THE PROCESS WAS ACCURATE? >>COUN. PEÑA: NO, I'M SAYING WHEN WE'RE TALKING OR STATED THAT WE SHOULD BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, I'M JUST SAYING WITH THE STADIUM AS IT WAS STATED THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE AN ADDRESS, WE STILL PROCEEDED FORWARD WITH IT. IT JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. MADAM PRESIDENT, ONE MORE QUESTION. I MISPLACED MY NOTES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: CAN WE ASK OUR BUDGET OFFER TO JOIN US. I HEARD SOMETHING MR. HAIR R IERBS MR. MUNIZ, OVER THE LAST FEW BUDGETS WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT INCREASING THE SALARIES FOR CITY WORKERS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT APPROXIMATELY THE 1% PAY RAISE COST US IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR IN RECURRING FUNDING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, YES THE 1% INCREASE ESTIMATED COST ABOUT $3.4 MILLION LAST YEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOW IN THE BUDGET. THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO THE 1% PRESENTED IN THE BUDGET. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOUBLE THAT. >>COUN. DAVIS: SO, OKAY. I'M GOING TO DO BASIC MATH THAT'S GOING TO BE WRONG. IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SHORT ON THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I WANTED -- I'M CONCERNED. AS WE HEARD WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT $5 MILLION IN RECURRING FUNDS FREEING UP THE CURRENT GRT WOULD GIVE US EXTRA CAPACITY. WE ALSO HEARD INFLATION IS AT 6%. WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE GO TO THE GAS STATION AND GROCERY STORE AND SHOPPING LOCAL AND WE WELCOME THE FOLKS THAT DO THAT. THE THOUGHT -- COST OF DOING BUSINESS IS GOING UP AND THE COST OF SHOPPING TRIPS. IF WE KEEP UP WITH INFLATION FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, WE NEED TO ADD A 6% PAY RAISE. THAT WOULD COST US MORE THAN $20 MILLION IN RECURRING JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF LIVING OF FOR WORKERS THAT TOOK CARE OF US DURING THE PANDEMIC. ON TOP OF FUNDING ALL THESE BUILDINGS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. I THINK THIS -- USING THE RECURRING REVENUE TO FUND THIS MAY BE A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED. ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO BORROW MONEY FOR A LOW RATE FOR YEARS BUT WE MAY BE IN THE POSITION THAT OUR EMPLOYEES MAY NEED A 6% RAISE TO KEEP UP. FOR THAT REASON, I ADDITIONALLY AM CONCERNED THIS MAY BE SHORTSIGHTED. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, ARE YOU DONE? >>COUN. DAVIS: YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. JONES: I JUST WANT TO REMIND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A KID WHOSE CANDY JAR WAS EMPTY AND SOMEBODY SHOWED THEM ANOTHER CANDY JAR. WE STILL HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF UNFUNDED PROJECTS, MONIES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TOTALLY SPENT. WE HAVE STARTED PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMPLETED AND STILL NEED TO BE DONE. WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT COMPLETED AND CAN'T COMPLETE SUCH AS STAFFING. I THINK YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ADDING EMPLOYEES. I KEEP GOING BACK TO PARKS. WE HAVE PARKS THAT ARE JUST -- WE HAVE MONEY THERE BUT WE CAN'T GET THEM DONE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE STAFF. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. I THINK WE NEED TO CUT BACK, THE ABILITY TO BORROW WILL NOT GO AWAY. LET'S SEE WHAT WE REALLY NEED IN THE CITY. WHAT SHOULD WE FINANCE, HOW SHOULD WE DO IT AND HOW SHOULD WE SET IT UP SO WE CAN GET IT DONE. THAT'S A BIG ONE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE DON'T ACTUALLY GET FINISHED. I REMEMBER WE HAVEN'T COMPLETED THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WE STARTED FUNDING AND WORKING ON SIX YEARS AGO. THAT'S NOT FINISHED. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND UNLESS WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD ABOUT IT, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO START NEW PROJECTS AND NOT FINISH NOR HAVE THE ABILITY TO FINISH THE ONES WE STARTED. I THINK WE NEED TO BE -- LOT OF US NEED DON'T LIKE THIS, WE MUST BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT COUNCILOR DAVIS WAS ALLUDING TO IS THE QUESTION THAT MYSELF AND COUNCILOR BASSAN POSED WAS A RAISE TO THE EMPLOYEES TO USE CAPACITY FOR THAT. WITH THAT $5.7 MILLION IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE 1% RAISE ACROSS THE BOARD. WHICH IS PRETTY -- IT'S SMALL. I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. I'D LIKE SEE HOW HE MANAGES TO GET 7% INTO THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING ONE. AT THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- SOMEBODY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION CAN SAY THE MAYOR PUT DOWN CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AND COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE CHAIR I ADDED AN ADDITIONAL PERCENTAGE TO IT ACROSS THE BOARD. IF YOU KNOW THOSE NUMBERS, I DON'T HAVE THOSE IN FRONT OF ME. IS IT ACCURATE, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT USING THE BOND MONEY IS NOT SUSTAINABLE IN TERMS OF RAISES. SUSTAINABLE MIGHT NOT WE THE CORRECT RESPONSE TO THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T GO ON FOREVER, CORRECT? UNLESS WE WERE TO -- CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. IT WAS EXPLAINED BEFORE. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU'RE RIGHT THE BOND MONEY IS NOT USED FOR OPERATING EXPENSES INCLUDING SALARY OR SALARY INCREASES. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING IS THAT IF WE DON'T ISSUE THE BOND AND WE NEVER ISSUE THE BOND IN FUTURE THEN IT FREES UP THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT WE'RE USED TO AT PRESENT. THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR SOME OPERATING EXPENSES. I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH THAT. WE CAN, HOWEVER I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO DEPEND ON THAT DEBT SERVICE MONEY TO USE IT FOR THE SALARY INCREASES BECAUSE OUR REVENUES ARE COMING UP PRETTY STEADY AND IN FACT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND AND INCREASED ECONOMIC ACTIVITY OR IFFLATION, THAT INCREASES REVENUES. WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH REVENUES TO CONSIDER THE PAY RAISES. WE WILL NOT BE DEPENDING ON THIS FREED UP DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT FOR TAX PURPOSES. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. BACA. WE DID LOOK AT IT AND WE LOOKED AT 1% AND THE IMPACT THAT WOULD MAKE AND LOOKED AT FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCILOR BASSAN AND MYSELF STATED WE DEFINITELY ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE GRT MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL INCREASES. LAST YEAR'S OVERALL INCREASE WAS MUCH? DO YOU HAVE THAT AMOUNT? >> I WILL HAVE OUR BUDGET OFFICER MS. DAVIS TALK ABOUT THAT AMOUNT. >> YEAH. COUNCILOR PEÑA, LAST YEAR THE ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED A 2% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT ULTIMATELY WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AS A 3% INCREASE FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES. THAT TOTAL COST WAS $7.4 MILLION FOR 2% AND THE ADDITIONAL 1%. A TOTAL OF 11.1 IN THE END. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILOR BASSAN BACK ON. COUNCILOR BASSAN, YOU GOT CUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR DISCUSSION. I WONDER IF YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HOPE THIS WORKS BETTER BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF PANIC I JUST UNDERWENT IS SOMETHING I CANNOT EXPRESS. HERE'S HOPING WE GO IN PERSON SO WE CAN AVOID THAT. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF ASKING QUESTIONS. I THINK I GOT ALMOST OF WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. MY APOLOGIES IF I REPEAT ANYTHING. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT APD MAIN, AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY, AGAIN MY APOLOGIES IF THIS WAS ALREADY CLARIFIED WHILE I WAS FIGHTING THE INTERNET. TSAN MATOE AND CATHERINE FACILITY, IS THAT A DUEPLICATIVE EFFORT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, ORIGINALLY THE PROJECT IS A PRETTY BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS TWO PROJECTS. THE BOND MONEY DISAPPROVED BY THE VOTERS WAS FOR $7 MILLION TO BUILD A FACILITY FOR THE ACS DEPARTMENT. THE COMMUNITY SAFETY DEPARTMENT. THAT WOULD BE LOCATED AT THE SITE. THE ADDITIONAL $7 MILLION THAT'S IN YOUR PROPOSAL IS TO BUILD A FIRE STATION, PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY THAT INCLUDES A FIRE STATION OR APPARATUS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO YOU HAVE FULL USE OF THE PROPERTY. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE AMOUNTS ARE IDENTICAL. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. AS A FOLLOW UP. I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AS FAR AS THE ART PROJECT AND HOW IT WAS FUNDED. THAT WAS -- THIS EQUATES TO THE TOTAL COST OF ART. BUT THIS IS FOR 16 PROJECTS VERSUS ONE BUS AND PART OF THE FUNDING, NOT ONE BUS, BUT ONE SYSTEM OF BUSES. I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET MAD AT ME FOR THAT ONE. 16 PROJECTS FOR ONE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND I BELIEVE AND MR. BACA YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS. PART OF THE FUNDING FOR ART WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED WITH A BOND THAT DID NOT GO TO COMMITTEE. YES, THE A.R. T. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WAS NOT HERE WHEN WE PAID FOR THE ART. I BELIEVE HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, YES THAT WHAT HAPPENED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT. I DID PULL UP THE BILL. I FOUND THE BILL TO SEE, IT'S O-15-46. IT WAS REFERRED TO FINANCE AND OPERATIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I THINK THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO POTENTIALLY, MAYBE BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, END UP VOTING ON THE CLEAN UP BILL FOR TODAY. ONE OF THE ITEMS THEREIN IS TO REVERT $1.7 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE UNABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE IN A TIMELY FASHION. CAN YOU VALLEDATE -- VALIDATE THAT. WHY ARE WE REVERTING $1.7 MILLION FOR VOUCHERS? >> WE HAVE CAROL PIERCE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILORS, I'M GOING TO ASK DEPUTY AS IT RELATES TO THE USE OF THE $1.7 MILLION. IT'S NOT REVERTING IT. IT'S A LITTLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. DIRECTOR PIERCE IS CORRECT. WE'RE NOT REVERTING $1.75 MILLION. WHAT THE CLEAN UP BILL IS DOING IS MOVING $1.7 MILL KRN -- FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND 265. THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IN THE CLEAN UP BILL IS BECAUSE WE KNOW MOST FAMILIES REQUIRE AT LEAST 12 MONTHS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO GET STABLE AND MAINTAIN HOUSING ON THEIR OWN. THAT MEANS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACT EXECUTED IN THE PROGRAM FULL ON DAY ONE OF THE FISCAL YEAR OUR CONTRACTS GO FROM ONE FISCAL YEAR INTO THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS A TECHNICAL FIX TO REFLECT THE REALITY OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT IN ORDER TO HELP FAMILIES STABILIZE AND PROVIDE THIS FUNDING ACROSS TWO FISCAL YEARS. WE ARE ON A PATH TO FULLY APPROPRIATE ALL OF THIS FUNDING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. ALSO, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALLOCATION IN THIS CURRENT O-21-84, WE CONSIDERED AND DISCUSSED SOME KIND OF VOUCHERS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE DISCUSS RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR CREATIVE WAYS THAT'S NOT JUST WORKFORCE HOUSING TRUST FUND, NOT JUST BUILDING NEW BUILDING OR MAINTAINING OR RENOVATING, JUST BUILDING BUT ALSO FINDING WAYS TO GET RESOURCES TO OTHER PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE TO EITHER PREVENT THEM FROM BECOMING OR HELP TO MAKE SURE THEY GET HOUSING. THIS IS PART OF WHAT -- I WANT DO CONFIRM THIS IS PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LUMP THAT PEOPLE SAY IS A LITTLE BIT TOO BIG. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, IN THAT $25 MILLION YES. THAT IS FOR A VARIETY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS WHICH WE DEFINITELY NEED. IT ALSO INCLUDES $5 MILLION FOR A SOBERING CENTER. IT'S ALSO A PATH THAT PEOPLE NEED THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AS IT'S NEEDED. A VARIETY OF WHETHER IT'S ACQUISITION REHAB. THAT'S WHAT THE MONEY IS FOR. IT BUILDS ON THE DISCUSSION I'VE HEARD ON THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS AVAILABLE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. MADAM PRESIDENT I HAVE MUCH MORE. I ALSO SEE COUNCILOR BENTON HAS HIS HAND UP. I WONDER IF IT'S ON THESE LINES AND I WONDER TO BE APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THIS IS QUESTION RELATED TO THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING? >>COUN. BENTON: YES IT IS. I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE OPERATIONAL MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WOULD BE FOR FISCAL PROJECTS. NOT OPERATIONS. IF I CAN ASK LISA TO CONFIRM THAT. >> I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILOR BORREGO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS NOT THE OPERATIONAL FUNDS. >>COUN. BASSAN: COUNCILOR BENTON, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO ANY AMENDMENT OR WORK ON SOMETHING WITH YOU ON THAT. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WITH YOU EARLY ON THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FINDING OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. NOT JUST CAPITAL PROJECTS. YOU AND AND TALKED ABOUT IT. IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO ONLY DO CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH THIS. WE ALSO, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I REMEMBER DISCUSSING THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THAT WITH THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET SO WE CAN LEVERAGE SUSTAINABILITY USING SOME OF THE FUNDING NOW AND LATER WHILE FINALIZING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. BENTON: IF I MAY RESPOND. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THE ISSUE IS IT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN THIS BILL. THESE BONDS CANNOT BE USED FOR OPERATING. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THIS THE SOURCES OF THOSE OPERATING EXPENSES. MY WAY OF IDENTIFYING IS THAT WOULD BE, AND THERE'S DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OTHER WAYS TO SPEND THESE OPERATING FUNDS, IT WOULD BE TO LOOK INTO HAVING A PERMANENT SET ASIDE RECURRING REVENUE SOURCE. $5.7 MILLION COULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD THAT AS WE SAID. PROBABLY DEPENDING ON THE EXACT TYPE OF VOUCHERS. BETWEEN 400 AND 570 VOUCHERS WOULD BE PAID FOR. THAT'S RECURRING PER FAMILY. THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THIS MOVES TOO FAST. IT'S NO REFLECTION ON ANYONE'S INTENTION. IT'S MOVED TOO FAST. WE NEED TO -- IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING STRATEGY WE NEED RECURRING SOURCES OF REVENUE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, MAY I CONTINUE? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT YOU HAPPENING . >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. MELENDREZ IF HE CAN HELP US IDENTIFY SOME OF THE -- HE EDUCATED ME LAST WEEK AS FAR AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPROPRIATIONS AND THIS BILL WITH MAKING SURE WE SECURE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT USING THIS INTEREST RATE. PEOPLE SAY WE'RE RUSHING. I CHOOSE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY SAY THAT. HOWEVER, I ALSO REALIZE THAT IF WE WANT TO GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HELP ALBUQUERQUE AS LARGELY AS POSSIBLE IT'S IMPORTANT WE LOCK IN THE INTEREST RATE SO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF UTILIZING THE FUNDING. I BELIEVE, IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NOW AND PASSING THIS BILL VERSES LATER, AND APPROPRIATION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN YES. THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING IN RELAYING CONVERSATIONS I'M HAVING WITH THE BUDGET AND THE FINANCE PERSON, THIS BILL PROPOSES TO AUTHORIZE THE BOND ISSUANCE IN THE TOTAL VALUE AMOUNT THAT'S LISTED WITHIN THE BILL. IT ALSO INCLUDES A LIST OF SPECIFIC PROJECTS. THAT LIST IS NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRED IN ORDER TO HAVE THE BOND PROPOSAL ISSUED. AT SOME POINT, IF THIS TYPE OF PROPOSAL IS COMPLETED, THE BOND WILL FUND, WHICH MEANS THAT THE CITY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE TOTAL DOLLAR MUMENT -- AMOUNT BEING AUTHORIZED. AT THAT POINT IS WHEN THE CITY, THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL, ACTUALLY APPROPRIATES THE MONEY. WE'VE BEEN ADVISED BY BOND COUNSEL THAT THE PROJECT LIST, FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN ANY BOND ISSUANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY SET IN STONE. IT MAY BE VIEWED AS A MARKER OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE FOLKS THAT PASS THE BILL. IT IS STILL BUDGET TO APPROPRIATION AT A LATER DATE THROUGH THE NORMAL APPROPRIATION PROCESS WHERE IT CAN BE ALLOCATED TO DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I THINK I'LL TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SAY THAT GOING ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAD IN THE COMMUNITY AND ON THE NEWS AND IN ALL OF THE FABULOUS PLACES, IT GOES TO THAT LAME DUCK THING. WE ELECTED TO SERVE A POSITION. LET'S WORK RIGHT NOW. LET'S GET THE JOB DONE AND SECURE THIS MONEY BECAUSE IT IS GOING GO AWAY. EARLIER THERE WAS A COUNCILOR THAT SAID THE MONEY WILL NOT NOT GO AWAY. THE WILL GO AWAY. ONCE THE INTEREST RATES RISE WE'LL LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE. LET'S LOCK IT IN, AND IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT NO NEW COUNCILORS COMING -- >>COUN. BASSAN: AS LONG AS IT FALLS IN THE CATEGORIES, IT SOUNDS LEAGUELY THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE FURTHER DISCUSSION. THERE'S A RUSH TO CAPITALIZE ON THE INTEREST RATE TO HELP ALBUQUERQUE. THEY WANT THE PROJECTS DONE. THE CONVENTION CENTER IS PART OF THIS. COMPLETING CITY PROJECTS. THEY WANT THREE THINGS. COMPLETE PROJECTS, REDUCE CRIME, REDUCE HELPLESSNESS. THIS WILL ACHIEVE THAT. IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A VERY LONG TIME IN A VERY SIGNIFICANT WAY. I THINK WE'LL CREATE JOBS. I THINK WITH THESE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS WE'RE GOING TO CREATE JOBS. WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW WE NEED MORE JOBS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLA. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, YOU SAID IT YOURSELF, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE A PLAN. I ARGUE AGAINST THAT AND I UNDERSTAND. BUT IT'S TIME TO SAY OKAY WE CAN'T GO TO THE STATE AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO FUND EVERYTHING FOR US. SOME OF THE LEGISLATORS EXPRESSED THEY DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER HELPING ALBUQUERQUE UNLESS WE EXPRESS AN OPTION TO HELP OURSELF. THAT COULD BE DEVASTATING. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING. LET'S DO A LITTLE BIT OF IT. LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN HELP REDUCE CRIME, HELP WITH GETTING PROJECTS DONE. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN VOTERS REJECTED THE $50 MILLION BOND QUESTION THEY WROTE IN MASS QUANTITIES REJECTING IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED ONE OF THREE THINGS. I KNOW I'M REPEATING MYSELF. IT'S THERE. IT'S A REALITY. ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS HELP. PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR IT. THIS IS A WAY TO MAKE THAT MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I'M SURE I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH MORE. I'M SURE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND AND YOU BELIEVE THE WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH ARE PASSIONATE AND I MEAN THEM COMPLETELY. I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS FORWARD. I WOULD LOVE YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY -- I THINK THIS IS A VERY SMART AND BRAVE MOVE FOR ALBUQUERQUE. IF WE DON'T PASS THIS TONIGHT IT WILL BE A SHAME. I HOPE THAT THOSE WATCHING WILL UNDERSTAND WHO IS INVESTED AND WHO IS NOT. AND I HOPE THOSE WATCHING WILL HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO FIND THOSE CASH DOLLARS AND FIND THE WAYS TO GET THESE COMPLETED IF WE DON'T USE THIS FUNDING NOW. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS UP IN THE QUEUE. I HAVE A FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY REGARDING THIS. I THINK THAT OUR INTEREST RATES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND GETTING THE LOWEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK IS COMPLETELY IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY AS INFLATION RISES. AND WE'RE IN A MARKET WHERE INFLATION IS SURELY GOING TO RISE AND IT'S INEVITABLE. IF WE CAN SECURE IT AT THIS POINT AND WANT TO THANK OUR COUNCILORS WHO -- COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR BEING SO THOUGHTFUL. WE HAVE COUNCILORS THAT SUPPORTED A $50 MILLION STADIUM. THAT'S SEEMED TO BE NO PROBLEM. BUT THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING FOR THE LAST YEAR OR LONGER SOME OF THEM, INCLUDING MY CIBOLA LOOP, BY THE WAY, WHICH WOULD TAKE $10 MILLION OF THIS FUNDING IS SHOVEL READY. THERE ARE PROBABLY ABOUT SIX OF THESE PROJECTS ON THIS LIST THAT ARE SHOVEL READY. I REALLY THANK YOU FOR BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE PROJECT AND TRYING TO BE EQUITABLE WITH ALL THE COUNCILORS IN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE DISTRICTS. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT WITH REGARD TO OPERATING VERSUS CAPITAL. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU CREATE -- IF YOU BUILD THESE PROJECTS THERE ARE GOING TO BE A TAX BASE INCREASE. OPERATING FUNDS WILL ALSO BE GENERATED FROM SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT FACTS WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN MAKING OUR DECISION REGARDING THIS. I ALSO NEED TO SAY, AND I REALLY DO NEED TO SAY THIS BECAUSE THERE'S A BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT LAME DUCK COUNCILORS AND WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEW COUNCILORS COME AND LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION. I WAS ELECTED TO SERVE A FOUR-YEAR TERM. THAT TERM ENDS ON DECEMBER 31 AT 11:59. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ELECTION IN NOVEMBER DIDN'T MEAN WE STOPPED WORKING ON NOVEMBER 2nd. WE'RE ELECTED TO SERVE OUT OUR TERM. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I REALLY HAVE TO SAY THAT. IT'S WIN -- BEEN SOMETHING WEIGHING HEAVY ON MY MIND. WE TAKE THIS WORK THAT WE DO INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE SERIOUSLY. I DON'T THINK ANY COUNCILOR ON THIS DOESN'T TAKE THIS WORK SERIOUSLY. IT'S A QUESTION OF PRIORITY. WHAT IS THE PRIORITY, WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY. SHOVEL-READY PRIORITIES ARE IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE PRICES RISING. ON THIS AGENDA WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PL AGREEMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE IMPORTANT. I THINK THE QUESTION IS IN MANY PEOPLE'S MINDS HOW DO WE GETEME PACK TO AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE NEW MEXICANS ARE BACK TO WORK AND PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND OUR ECONOMY GET MOVING AGAIN AND THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS ON MY MIND TONIGHT. ARE WE MOVING OUR ECONOMY FORWARD? OR DO WE STAY STAGNANT. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. I THINK THAT LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE -- AND I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION ABOUT THE OPERATING COST. I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TOO. WHEN WE BUILD AND GENERATE PROJECTS THAT ARE, AS WE DID DURING COVID, GENERATING JOBS THOSE ARE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS FOR MOVING OUR ECONOMY FORWARD. I AM GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS BILL. IT'S AN IMPORTANT BILL. I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER THAT WE WERE READY TO MOVE IS A STADIUM FORWARD OF HALF OF THIS AMOUNT. THAT WAS ONE PROJECT. WE'RE CONSIDERING MANY PROJECTS IN ALL PARTS OF THE CITY. COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS. I THINK THE BANG INTEREST THE BUCK IN TERMS OF THE INTEREST RATE AND HAVING FLEXIBILITY IS IMPORTANT. TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCILS AND ELECTIONS REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER POINT. THE LONGEVITY OF THE COUNCIL, THE ONLY OTHER COUNCILOR HERE WITH ME WAS COUNCILOR BENTON. IN 2008 WE HAD THE GREAT RECESSION AND WE STARTED MOVING MONEY FROM THE BONDING CAPACITY TO THE OPERATING. IT'S TAKEN ALL THESE YEARS, OVER A DECADE, TO ACTUALLY RECOVER FROM WHAT WE DID BACK THEN. WE HAVE A $200 MILLION BONDING PROGRAM. IN ORDER TO RAISE MONEY FOR OPERATING WE TOOK MONEY FROM THE CAPITAL PROGRAM AND MOVED IT. WE NEVER MOVE THOSE BACK. IN A WAY, I KNOW RJ BERRY USED THE GRT BONDS. IT'S ANOTHER WAY THEY'RE CORRECTING SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE WAY BACK THEN IN THE RECESSION WHEN WE HAD TO MOVE MONEY FROM CAPITAL PROGRAM INTO OPERATING. WAS OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE CHANGES IN THE LAWS OF SANTA FE, OUR OPERATING BUDGET SEEM TO BE MORE STABLE THAN IT HAS BEEN IN A LONG TIME. THAT DOESN'T WORRY ME RIGHT NOW. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INFLATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO STATE, AND I KNOW WE'RE MOVING TOWARD CLOSING REMARK OR I GET THE SENSE THAT WE ARE. I JUST WANT TO NOTE AS TO WHY I SUPPORT THIS BILL. FOR ME, WHEN COUNCILOR BASSAN FIRST APPROACHED ME AND HAVING THIS DISCUSSION REALLY ASKED ME WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WITH SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE IN TERMS OF GETTING THINGS DONE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I SAID AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A SOBERING CENTER. SHE DID ACCOMMODATE ME ON THAT. FOR ME, AS COUNCILOR PEÑA STATED, THIS IS A REAL CRITICAL INVESTMENT IN NOT JUST THE WEST SIDE BUT FOR THE OVERALL CITY. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE DISTRICT I KNOW THE MULTIGENERATIONAL CENTER BENEFITS THE CITY AS WELL CONSIDERING THE WEST SIDE ONLY HAS ONE SENIOR CENTER. HAVING A MULTIGENERATIONAL CENTER WOULD HELP THE SENIORS ON THE WEST SIDE ALONG WITH THE YOUTH. EVEN IF WE ARE ON OPPOSITE ENDS, BUT THE AQUATIC CENTER AND HOW WE NEED THAT FOR OUR AGING SENIORS AND HOW THEY NEED TO HAVE A FACILITY AS WELL. WE CAN SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS WITH EACH OF THE DISTRICTS AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE CITY AND DOING IT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT OUR DOLLARS FORWARD. I THINK VOTERS, LIKE WAS STATED TODAY, REALLY STRESSED THE POINT WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON OUR CITY AND THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITIES AND FOR MY VIEWPOINT OF THIS BOND IT REALLY DOES THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE AREAS THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE CALL IN TERMS OF SERVICE IN NOT JUST THE CITY BUT IN THE NATION. IT TOPS ONE OF THE MOST CALLS FOR SERVICE AND INVESTING IN THAT. IT LOOKS AT REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW WE DO OUR OPEN SPACE OR RECREATION AND ALSO RESTORES A LITTLE BIT OF JUSTICE AND EQUITY AS WHEN WE LOST REPRESENTATION IN THE DISTRICT AFTER KEN'S PASSING. FOR ME, THIS HAS A BALANCE OF A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. FOR ME, I JUST APPRECIATE BOTH COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR BEING THOUGHTFUL AND FOR APPROACHING COUNCILORS AND ALSO THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE DISCUSSION. AND REALLY EXTENDING THE HAND BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS STARTED OUT AS SOMETHING REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS UP. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR PEÑA FOR A CLOSE AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE TO DO A BREAK DOWN OF THIS BILL. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PART. THAT IS SOMETHING THE WHOLE CITY STANDS TO GAIN FROM THIS. DISTRICT ONE SPECIFIC PROJECTS RELATED LISTED ON THIS. DISTRICT ONE WILL GET $1 MILLION. DISTRICT TWO WILL GET $19.5 MILLION. DISTRICT THREE WILL GET TEN. DISTRICT FOUR WILL GET 12. DISTRICT SIX WILL GET 16. DISTRICT SEVEN WILL GET A MINIMUM OF THREE. DISTRICT EIGHT WILL GET FROM CITY BUILDING PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. DISTRICT NINE WILL GET $4.4 MILLION. MY LAST THING IS IF YOU PILLED -- BUILD IT THEY WILL COME. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN. LASTLY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING TO BE BACK IN PERSON NEXT YEAR SO WE CAN'T JUST CONVENIENTLY TURN OFF OUR CAMERAS AND AVOID LOOKING EACH OTHER IN THE EYE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS BUSINESS. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I REALLY URGE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. I BELIEVE THIS IS BEING FISCALLY PRUDENT. PROJECTS ARE GOING TO GET DONE. I REALLY APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BASSAN AND ALL THE WORK SHE PUT INTO THIS. SHE REALLY TRIED HARD TO WORK WITH EACH OF THE COUNCILORS TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS. SHE SET OUT WITH THE GOAL IN MIND. UNFORTUNATELY, THE STADIUM BOND DIDN'T PASS AS YOU KNOW I SUPPORTED IT. I DIDN'T PASS. THEN SHE SAID, THE CRIES FROM THE COMMUNITY WERE THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOMELESSNESS. I THINK SHE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB DOING THAT AND ADDRESSING SOME OTHER MAJOR NEEDS WE HAVE IN OUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS. I JUST WANT TO SAY WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE. I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK. I KNOW SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS ALLUDES TO SOME PROJECTS WHETHER IT'S THE MAYOR PUTTING IN FOR AN AWNING IN THE COUNCILOR BENTON DISTRICT. THAT'S CITY CENTER. I THINK THAT'S ALL OF OUR DISTRICT. AND THE FIRE STATION AND MY DISTRICT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 30% DONE AND PLANNING SOME OF THE PLANNING AND THE 30% THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETIMES UNFORTUNATELY PROJECTS ARE NEEDED. THERE'S AN EMERGENCY NEED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COMPLETED. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE VOIDS IN THE COMMUNITY IN AN EFFICIENT AND TIMELY MANNER. DISTRICT THREE HAS BEEN SERVED AND PARTNERRING TO ADDRESS PUBLIC SAFETY AND FIRE NEEDS. THAT AGREEMENT IS LONG OUT DATED. A STUDY WAS JUST CONDUCTED AND IT REALLY SHOWED THERE'S A TREMENDOUS VOID IN TERMS OF BOTH FIRE AND POLICE IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA OF THE CITY. LOOK ATH THIS MONEY AND OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET A PROJECT LIKE THAT UNDERWAY AND BUILT I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LIKE COUNCILOR BASSAN SAID, WORKING TOGETHER WE REALLY DO. WE NEED TO MOVE INTO THE 21st CENTURY. THE STADIUM WOULD HAVE, IN MY OPINION, GONE A LONG WAY TO MOVE THE SAIDY FORWARD. SINCE THAT DIDN'T PASS, I THINK THIS GOES A LONG WAY IN TERMS OF FINISHING PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED. IT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, ADMINISTRATION, AND THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR PEÑA. IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WE'LL ME HERE TO MIDNIGHT. LET'S GO TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE. SEVEN ARE REQUIRED. >>COUN. BORREGO: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS O-80. I WILL KICK THIS OFF AMENDING SECTION 5-5-11 OF THE PUBLIC PURCHASE ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THE USE OF PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS ON CERTAIN PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I MOVE A DUE AS. -- PASS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR SENA. THANK YOU FOR THE SECONDS. I WILL MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION. THEY HELPED CRAFT THIS BILL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE KNOW THERE'S LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY LIKE THIS LEGISLATION. THIS IS A MAJOR POLICY CALL FOR THE CITY. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. COUNCILOR SENA. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME OVERVIEW AS TO SOME OF THE HISTORY. I KNOW THAT PLA CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN GOING ON WELL BEFORE MY TIME. I KNOW THAT EVEN THE COUNTY PASSED THEIR OWN PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT. I KNOW THE FIRST PLAs WERE DONE IN THE 1930s BACK WHEN THE NATIONAL LABOR ACT WAS PASSED. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING UNFAMILIAR TO MOST. I THINK THAT THE OVERALL DISCUSSION OF HOW IT WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY AND WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD NOW. MANY AUNIONS APPROACHED ME WITH THIS. JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT PLAs CAN DO NOT JUST FOR THE ECONOMY BUT WORKFORCE AND OVERALL COMMUNITY. THINKING OF PLAs AND HOW IT PROVIDES UNIFORM WAGES, BENEFITS, OVERTIME PAY, HOURS, RULES, AND I THINK IT WAS ALSO DISCUSSED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THIS IS MOSTLY FOR UNION FOLKS. I DISAGREE. THIS IS ABOUT CONDITIONS AND A CONTRACT EVEN FOR NON-UNION FOLKS. JUST SO THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS, EVEN THROUGH WHAT WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING IN TERMS OF BUILDING THINGS AND HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, SOMETHING THE PANDEMIC HIGHLIGHTED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY DIDN'T STOP. IT'S SOMETHING IN OUR ECONOMY WE REALLY RELIED ON TO KEEP US GOING AS A CITY. I THINK THAT THROUGH PLA IT REALLY STARTS OUT IN TALKING ABOUT SETTING OUT OUR WORKING CONDITIONS. SETTING OUT AGREEMENTS SO WE KNOW AND SETTING STANDARDS AND PRICES SO THEY DON'T CHANGE SO IT DOESN'T INCREASE COST. SOME OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS WERE FINISHED AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK OVERALL HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND WHY PLAs WERE BENEFICIAL IS WHY WE STEP FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND THIS DISCUSSION. ANOTHER NOTE, THINKING ABOUT OUR WORKFORCE AND THE CONVERSATION IS THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS LABOR SHORTAGE AND FOR ME THE OVERALL CONVERSATION IS WE ARE HAVING A SHORTAGE BUT WE'RE HAVING A SHORTAGE OF GREAT PAYING JOBS WITH BENEFIT. THIS SETS THAT AHEAD OF TIME SO PEOPLE KNOW THE STANDERS IN WHICH THEY'RE SIGNING UP FOR WHEN THEY GET ON THE PROJECTS. IT REALLY DIVERSIFIES THE WORKFORCE BY TRAINING THEM AND FOCUS ON APPRENTICESHIP. AND FOCUS ON SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT FOCUSED ON SUCH AS WOMEN, MINORITIES, AND UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS. THIS IS A PIPELINE FOR OUR WORKERS TO GO TOWARD A LOT OF PROJECTS. I KNOW IT DIDN'T PASS JUST NOW, BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT MORE INVESTMENTS EVEN FOR OUTLAY PROJECTS THIS IS WHAT IS SO CRITICAL IN ITS NEED. I ALSO WANTED TO TURN TO A CONVERSATION WHETHER THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION AND I KNOW WE HAVE EXPERTS AND JUST TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF HOW WE WORKED WITH OTHER UNION CONTRACTORS. I KNOW PARTICULARLY THERE WAS ONE PROJECT THAT WOULD BENEFIT AND DID SUBSEQUENTLY IN TERMS OF THE SUNPORT. I KNOW WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH US THROUGH IBEW THAT WORKED ON THIS. IF WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS AS TO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SUNPORT AND HOW WE BENEFITTED IN THE END WITH UNION INVOLVEMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU ASKING FOR THAT CONVERSATION NOW? >>COUN. SENA: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK MR. RAEL WAS ABOUT TO CHIME IN. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, FOR EXAMPLE THE PROJECT AT THE AIRPORT WAS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS AND THE INCONSISTENCIES THAT OCCUR WHEN YOU HAVE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES PAYING THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS AND/OR SUBCONTRACTORS THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EXPERTISE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T RETAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF THE MARKET WE'RE IN. AS A RESULT, YOU END UP IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THREE SUBCONTRACTORS BECAUSE OF THESE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO DEFINE LABOR. SECONDLY, THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE WITH THEM DID NOT PROVIDE FOR ANY SUPPORT FOR OUR LABOR OR FOR FOLKS IN THE DIFFERENT TRADE SET NECESSARY TO MAKE PROJECTS WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN ATTENDEE THAT WORKS ON THAT PROJECT. IF YOU CAN LET HIM IN. I SEE THAT HE'S THERE. JUST ASK A FEW QUESTIONS IN WHAT HE ENCOUNTERED AND EXPERIENCED WHILE WORKING ON THAT. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WAS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ALBUQUERQUE SUNPORT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE WE SEE THERE WAS LABOR SHORTAGE. WE WERE LOOKING FOR QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND QUALIFIED ELECTRICIANS. I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS IS SAFETY. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE EXPERIENCED AND THOSE ARE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP. ALBUQUERQUE SUNPORT IS THE GATEWAY. ALL VISITORS COME INTO ALBUQUERQUE, BUSINESS, VISITING FAMILY, LOOKING TO RELOCATE. THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WILL BE THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO SEE. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN -- NEXT TO THE SANDIAS, THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY THAT CAME OUT OR HAD MORE CONCERNS TO IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. TRUJILLO. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO STRESS SOMETIMES WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO FINISH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BUT SOMETIMES WE NEED SOME OVERSIGHT ON A LOT OF THAT. FOR ME HAVING PLAs BEING FORWARD REALLY HAVING THESE UNDERSTANDING AHEAD OF TIME AND WAS STATED IN PUBLIC COMMENT EVERYONE OPERATES ON A BUSINESS ESPECIALLY BIG PROJECTS AND THAT'S WHAT IS NECESSARY. I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BENTON FOR ASKING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS DURING PUBLIC AS TO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BENEFITS AND WHAT HAVE PEOPLE SEEN AND EVEN THEM STRESSING THAT WE ALL BENEFIT FROM THESE WORKING CONDITIONS AND HAVING PLAs. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE OVERALL AS A CITY SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THIS. COULD YOU TELL ME WHY THE COUNTY DID? WHAT DID THEY DO WHEN THEY FIRST GOT THE PROJECT? I BELIEVE THIS WAS FOR THE VISITOR CENTER THE CITY HELPED FUND FOR THE COUNTY. DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? I JUST HAD SOMEONE SEND ME A TEXT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. I APOLOGIZE. WE CAN GET RESEARCH FOR YOU, IF YOU LIKE. >>COUN. JONES: WOULD YOU PLEASE DO THAT AND GET BACK TO US? >> I WILL. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT THIS PLA WOULD PUT IN PLACE. WOULD ALL PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE HAVING THE PLA REQUIREMENT, WOULD THEY HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL OR GO TO SOME DMD BODY TO FINALIZE A PLA? HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE HAVE ALAN ON THE PHONE. HE CAN HELP WITH THOSE QUESTIONS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, THE REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCE IS A PLA WOULD NEED TO BE IN PLACE IN ORDER FOR COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE PROJECT. DMD WOULD, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, ALONG WITH THE TRADE UNION AND THE APPROVED CONTRACTOR NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF THE PLA. >>COUN. GIBSON: DO YOU OR DO WE AS THE CITY EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES? IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD. WHAT I'M GETTING AT, I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD IMPEDE THE PROCESS UNNECESSARILY AND IF MAYBE WHAT COULD BE SCRUTINIZED MORE IS IF THEY APPEARED NOT TO BE REQUIRED TO BE INVOLVED IN PLA. OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THIS AT ALL. I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE CITY PUT ITSELF IN A POSITION WHERE THERE'S ONE MORE BOX TO TICK OFF IN ORDER FOR A PROJECT TO PROCEED. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, THE WAY THE PROCESS WOULD WORK IS THIS IS NOT DESIGNED IN ANY WAY TO SLOW ANYTHING DOWN. THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE PROJECT, THE REQUEST FOR BIDS, WOULD CONTAIN AND SET OUT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT A PLA BE ENTERED INTO. AND THE TEMPLATE FOR A PLA, WHICH WOULD BE SUBJECT FOR NEGOTIATIONS AND MODIFICATION, WOULD BE PART OF THAT PACKAGE. ANYONE WHO IS GETTING READY TO BID OWN THESE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION UP FRONT AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED TO THE NORMAL BIDDING PROCESS. IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY SLOW DOWN ENGETTING THE PROJECT AWARDED AND STARTED. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. SENA: I JUST WANT TO STATE THE FACT THAT I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS. ESPECIALLY IN THIS ORDINANCE, THESE ARE PROJECT COSTS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO EXCEED $10 MILLION. OF COURSE WITH ANY CONTRACT THAT WE GET AND ANY RFT WE'RE ALWAYS REVIEWING THEM BEFOREHAND. I THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS IS JUST PART OF THE REGULAR PROCESS. THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION OF SOMEONE. I'M NOT SURE WHO. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD PUT THE SAME REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE. THEY DID IT IN 2020. MY QUESTION IS WHY DID THEY WAIVE THESE REQUIREMENTS WHEN THEY BUILT THE VISITOR CENTER ON THE WEST SIDE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE DOES. COUNCILOR PEÑA MIGHT BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN MORE INVOLVED IN THE COUNTY'S VISITOR'S CENTER. THE CITY GAVE $20 MILLION TO THAT PROJECT. IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, ON YOUR FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COUNTY OPERATED. WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT INFORMATION. THE CITY'S PORTION WAS ABOUT $8.3 MILLION. THE COUNTY PUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. CAN WE -- THE COMMISSION COULD STATE A WAGE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE REASON IT WAS GIVEN WAS THE COST. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS BEFORE -- IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT PEOPLE EMPLOYED AND MAKING GOOD MONEY. WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL THE RAMIFICATIONS WHEN WE AS AND PUT INTO PLACE THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE WORKFORCE BELONGS TO UNION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT INFORMATION. MAYBE OF THE FOLKS LISTENING IN THE COMMUNITY MIGHT KNOW THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: FAIR ENOUGH. I GUESS THAT WAS ADMITTEDLY A LITTLE UNFAIR. I KNOW THROUGH THE NEW MEXICO BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS PRIVATE SECTOR CONSTRUCTION UNION RATE IS LESS THAN 10%. TO ME, I'M WONDERING HOW MANY OF THOSE UNION BELONGING COMPANIES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST ARE GENERAL CONTRACTORS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING TONIGHT CAN ANSWER THAT. MY CONCERN IS FOR PROJECTS OVER $10 MILLION, WE HEARD FROM SUBCONTRACTORS TODAY. I'M CURIOUS WHAT ABOUT GENERAL CONTRACTORS. DO WE HAVE THOSE THAT ALREADY BELONG TO UNIONS? OR DO WE NOT? >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK THAT UNION BELONG TO UNIONS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR -- BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE WITH UNIONS AND I HAD FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WERE UNION MEMBERS IS THAT THEY HAD TO WORK FOR UNIONS. AND ONLY WAY TO WORK FOR GENERAL CONTRACTOR IN PRIVATE PRACTICE WAS GET PERMISSION FROM THE UNION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THEY WERE -- THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. THEY COULD NOT JUST GO WORK FOR A PRIVATE COMPANY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, IS THIS NOT INCLUDING GENERAL CONTRACTORS AS PART OF THE PLA? A GENERAL CONTRACTOR ON A PROJECT OVER $10 MILLION WOULD NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY THIS AGREEMENT IF IT GETS PASSED? >>COUN. BORREGO: LET HE LET MR. VARELA RESPOND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU. THERE IS NO PROHIBITION ON A THON-UNION OWNED CONTRACTOR. WHICH HB CONTRACTOR SPOKE ON PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WOULDN'T STOP THEM FROM BIDDING. THIS IS AN OVERLAY TO ENSURE THAT THE SCOPE IS WELL-DEFINED AND THE WAGES AND BENEFITS ARE THE SAME WITH THE WAGE ACT OF NEW MEXICO. THERE'S NO PROHIBITION ON THESE TYPE OF CONTRACTORS WHO BID ON THE CONTRACT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, I GUESS THE CRUX OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS THAT HEARING THAT WE HAVE 90% OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORKFORCE IS NON-UNION, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY EVERYONE SHOULD WANT TO JOIN A UNION. UNION'S JOB IS TO WANT TO JOIN A UNION. IF FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE DO NOT WAN TO JOIN A UNION I STRUGGLE PUTTING THEM UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SAY YOU NEED TO BE PART OF A UNION. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BENEFIT IF THEY'RE PRIVATE RIGHT NOW AND THEY HAVE A 401K BENEFIT PACKAGE AND WE DO THE PLA AND DO THEY LOSE WHAT THEY HAVE? DOES IT TRANSFER? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE JOB IS OVER AND THEY DECIDE NOT TO STAY ON AS UNION. WHAT ABOUT THOSE BENEFITS? WHERE THEY DO THEY GO? THESE ARE HARDWORKING PEOPLE. WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ABOUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: I BELIEVE THE PLA LANGUAGE REQUIRES THAT ALL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORKFORCE, HEALTH CARE AND OTHER BENEFITS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BID. IT WOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL COST AND CHANGE ORDERS FOR NON-PLA CONTRACTORS. IT'S A MORE ACCURATE WAY TO BID CONSTRUCTION JOBS. >>COUN. BASSAN: BUT MADAM PRESIDENT, THAT'S ON BIDDING A JOB. I'M TALKING ABOUT CURRENTLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BENEFITS AND 401Ks BUILT UP OVER THE YEARS, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE YOU START JOINING A UNION YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE PRIVATE BENEFITS IN ADDITION TO UNION BENEFITS. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PRIVATE ONES? AM I NOT FOLLOWING ALONG? >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU CAN'T BE IN THE UNION AND IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. >>COUN. BASSAN: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRIVATE BENEFITS THAT WERE ACCUMULATED. ALL OF THE MONEY THESE PEOPLE WORKED FOR 20 YEARS GOES AWAY RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTRACTOR. >> NO, IT DOESN'T. >>COUN. BASSAN: CAN ANYONE ANSWER THAT QUESTION? >>COUN. SENA: CAN I RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THEY WOULD GET TO CONTINUE ON IN THOSE INCUMBENT HEALTH AND BENEFIT PROGRAMS. I KNOW OUR DIRECTOR ALSO THERE TO CHIME IN. I ALSO WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ALSO ASKED -- I DON'T HAVE TO GET THE NUMBER OR FIGURE BUT IN TERMS OF THE SUNPORT AND THE ARTs, HOW MUCH DID WE HAVE TO REDO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOCAL CONTRACTOR ON THAT JOB? THOSE COSTS CONTINUE TO GO UP BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMEONE LOCAL AND WE LET THAT BID OUT. FOR THE COUNTY, THAT'S THEIR PER TOGATIVE. FOR US IT'S A CONCERN FOR ALBUQUERQUE. YOU CAN LOOK TO THE TRANSPARENT CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD BE PROVIDING THROUGH THE PLA. A LOT OF THOSE COSTS AND NEGOTIATIONS ARE SET OUT AHEAD OF TIME. AGAIN, ANY OF THESE HEALTH BENEFITS AND I KNOW COUNCILOR DAVIS AND DIRECTOR VARELA ARE GOING TO CHIME IN. THOSE BENEFITS DO CONTINUE. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. VARELA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIME IN? >> YES, VERY BRIEFLY. THOSE BENEFITS CONTINUE. THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE THAT THE PRIVATE BENEFITS MUST MEET OR EXCEED THOSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THROUGH UNION MEMBERSHIP. IF THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS MEETS OR EXCEEDS THAT THEN THERE'S NO GAP. IF THERE IS A GAP THEY NEED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT. THOSE PRIVATE PACKAGES DO NOT GO AWAY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE DIRECTOR VARELA. I'M GLAD TO HAVE HIM IN THAT POSITION. HE'S BEEN REALLY GOOD THAT WORK. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD. I APPRECIATE MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S NOT CORRECT TO SAY UNIONS ARE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. WE HEARD FROM LOCAL COMPANIES LIKE DND WHICH ARE HUGE PRIVATE SECTOR. THEY PAY TAXES, HIRE WORKERS, AND YOU CAN CHOOSE TO OPT INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH LABOR UNION. IT'S SAYING YOU'RE CONTRACTING FOR SOME HELP WITH HR DEPARTMENT. SOMEONE TO HELP SET TRAINING STANDARDS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, WHAT I SAID. LET ME CORRECT THE RECORD. WHAT I SAID WAS THEY NEEDED TO GET PERMISSION FROM THEIR UNION TO WORK FOR THE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. >>COUN. DAVIS: I BELIEVE YOU SAID THEY COULD EITHER BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO, I DIDN'T. YOU CAN GO BACK AND HEAR THE RECORD. LET ME CLARIFY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GLAD MADAM PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS THAT. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU JOIN THE BENEFIT OR LOSE BENEFITS. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR BASSAN BRING IT UP. IT'S A GOOD THING WE BRING IT UP. COUNCILOR SENA LAID THIS OUT REALLY WELL. I HEARD COUNCILOR GIBSON SAY THIS AS WELL. THE REASON I'LL SUPPORT IT IS THIS, IT'S A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR LOCAL WORKERS TO HAVE A SHOT AT WORKING ON LARGE CONTRACTS. USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS OUT OF STATE CONTRACTORS WITH THE SCALE OF BEING ABLE TO DO BIG PROJECT AND BUY BIG MACHINERY CAN UNDERCUT OUR PEOPLE. THEY'LL SET UP A PO BOX AND GET LOCAL BENEFITS IN CONTRACTING AND BIDDING. WE WORKED TO GET AROUND THAT SOME, OR THEY'LL SUBIT OUT BUT THE MONEY IS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY'LL BRING IN WORKFORCE FROM OUT OF NEW MEXICO. I LEARNED THE OTHER DAY THAT NEW MEXICO IS ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT ALLOWS US TO EXEMPT HIGHWAY INFRASTRUCTURE LABOR FROM WORKFORCE AGREEMENTS AND THOSE STANDARDS. WE'RE SEEING IT HAPPEN. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A $10 MILLION WEST SIDE VISITOR CENTER OR SOMPLEX IN THE SOUTHWEST MESA, WE'RE SAYING DND TAKES CARE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES, GETS THEIR HEALTH CARE AND TRIES TO GET THEM TO APS SCHOOLS ON TIME. THE LOCAL COMPANY SHOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A FAIR AND LOCAL -- I APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, FOR THE TIME FOR THE DISCUSSION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THE STRUGGLING LOCAL ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. I THINK THAT WE ARE ALL VERY AWARE OF THAT. I THINK IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE'RE -- COUNCILOR SENA I AGREE WITH YOU 100% WE NEED TO SUPPORT LOCAL CONTRACTORS. I HEAR THAT. MY CONCERN IS THAT BY PASSING THE PLA WE'LL ACTUALLY MAKE IT THAT WE GO OUT OF STATE FOR MORE WORK BECAUSE SOME OF THESE LOCAL CONTRACTORS CAN'T DO THESE JOBS IF THEY HAVE TO MEET AND EXCEED CERTAIN AGREEMENTS. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY'RE BAD BUSINESSES. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY'RE NOT GIVING GOOD WAGES AND BENEFITS. THAT'S TO SAY THEY'RE LOCAL. THE ARGUMENT IS GOING BOTH >>COUN. SENA: I THINK THAT HAVING REALLY THESE PLAs SET FORWARD IS IT OFFERS TRANSPARENCY THE CITY NEEDS TO OFFER FOR THE COMMUNITY. EVEN THE ART OR SUNPORT ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE TO KEEP FINESSING, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, AND INCREASE COST BECAUSE OF THAT. THIS SETS OUT BENEFITS AHEAD OF TIME SO EVERYBODY THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE WORKING CONDITIONS, THE WAGES, AND WHAT EXPECTATIONS THEY HAVE BEFORE ACTUALLY STARTING THIS PROJECT. EVEN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY THEMSELVES. WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, AND I THINK THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WHAT HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED THE MOST IS REALLY FOR OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. THROUGH THIS, THIS WILL TRULY BENEFIT OUR WORKING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BECAUSE HAVING THIS DIRECT PIPELINE AND APPRENTICESHIPS THAT REALLY STRESSES THE NEED FOR THAT AND HAVING SET FORTH THESE CONDITIONS AND SUPPORTING OUR WORKING FAMILIES FROM THE GET-GO SO WE CAN REALLY RECOVER FROM THE PANDEMIC IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME. ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION, I KNOW THAT HAVING THIS REAL OVERALL DISCUSSION OF HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR WORKING FAMILIES WHETHER THEY'RE UNION OR NOT AND THIS COULD ACTUALLY PAVE THE WAY FOR OUR ECONOMY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I WAS GOING TO REMIND COUNCILORS THAT THIS EVENING WE HAVE LOCAL 412, WE HAD LOCAL 611, WE HAD IBEW, WE HAD THE CENTRAL LABOR COUNSEL PRESIDENT OF THE PLA SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PLA IN SUPPORT OF THE PLA. I WAS GOING TO REMIND THE COUNCILORS THAT WE EVEN HAD JB HENDERSON SPEAK WHO IS A LOCAL CONTRACTOR. EMPLOYEES UNIONS, AND UNION WORKERS. WHAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT AS CERTAIN CITY PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD AND REMIND US THAT THESE UNIONIAN WORKERS HAVE TO CERTIFY YEARLY. THEY HAVE TO SO THEIR YEARLY CERTS. THEY ARE APPRENTICES IN THE BEGINNING AND EVENTUALLY BECOME SKILLED LABORER. THE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE IS THAT THE WORK IS NOT IN NEW MEXICO AND THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL OUT OF STATE. THAT DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY THEIR FAMILIES. THAT IS WHY I'VE CHOSEN TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. BECAUSE I THINK THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY THE CITY WILL GET A BETTER PRODUCT ON THE LARGER PROJECTS. WITH THAT, I WILL CONSIDER THAT A CLOSE UNLESS ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS IN THE QUEUE. I WILL GO TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE OUR MEETING ALONG. WE HAVE COUNCILOR GIBSON, R-208. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-208 IS RESOLUTION -- HOLD ON ONE SECOND. THERE IT IS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. R-208 IS ENCOURAGING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO COMPLETE THE FUNDING OF THE RENOVATION OF LOS ALTOS PARK AND ADD A HOUSING FOR A SECURITY VEHICLE FOR THE SCOPE OF THE PARK RENOVATION PROHIBITING THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT LOS ALTOS PARK FUNDING A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND DESIGN ANALYSIS REPORT AROUND THE PERIMETER OF LOS ALTOS. I'M GOING TO MOVE A DUE PASS. WE DO HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THE DUE PASS. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT. MADAM PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS. WE DO HAVE MS. SCHULZ WHO CAN DESCRIBE THIS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE TWO AMENDMENTS. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR GIBSON -- >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, I ONLY HAVE ONE AMENDMENT SHOWN. >>COUN. GIBSON: I THINK MS. SCHULZ WILL BE ABLE TO CLEAR THAT UP. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, THANK YOU. I ONLY WORKED ON ONE AMENDMENT THIS PAST WEEK. I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THAT ONE IF THERE'S ANOTHER WE MIGHT NEED TO TRACK THAT ONE DOWN. I CAN SPEAK TO THE ONE RELATED TO ALCOHOL. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE HAD AN AMENDMENT FOR THE TITLE CHANGE. >> OH, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. THE TITLE CHANGE IS WITHIN THIS AMENDMENT. THE TWO THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF ARE INCORPORATED INTO ONE DOCUMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE MR. MOYA HAS PULLED ON THE SCREEN FOR COUNCILORS TO VIEW. THIS AMENDMENT PRIMARILY DOES THREE THINGS. THE AMENDMENT OF THE TITLE IS RELATED TO THOSE THINGS THAT IT DOES. IN TERMS OF PROHIBITION ON ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AT THIS PARK. IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROHIBITIONS AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PUT FORTH AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING HAS CHANGED. THERE WERE THREE PROHIBITIONS AT THE PREVIOUS ITERATION THAT WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED FOR BYOB STYLE LIQUOR WHERE SOMEONE CAN BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL TO CONSUME. IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THE CITY OR OTHER OPERATED -- AND PROHIBITED ANYONE FROM SEEKING A SPECIAL EVENT LICENSE TO SERVE LIQUOR ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS ASSOCIATED WITH A SPECIAL EVENT. THIS AMENDMENT, INSTEAD, STILL PURSUES THOSE FIRST TWO PROHIBITIONS. YOU WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BRING OUR I DON'T KNOW LIQUOR ON TO THE PARK. THE CITY OR ANOTHER OPERATOR WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEEK PERMANENT LIQUOR LICENSE. BUT THIS DOES ALLOW TO SEEK A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. THE TWO SPECIAL RULES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMIT LICENSE ARE THAT EVENTS COULD NOT OCCUR MORE THAN 12 TIMES IN A YEAR. AND ALSO THE EVENTS THE SPECIAL EVENT COULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH WOULD HAVE TO BE A SPORTING EVENT OR PUBLIC CELEBRATION. A PUBLIC CELEBRATION WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE A SUMMER FIRST OR STATE FAIR TYPE OF EVENT. IN TERMS OF HOW THIS AMENDMENT LOOKS COMPARED TO THE ONE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR A SPECIAL EVENTS ON A LIMITED BASIS IN TERMS OF THE 12 EVENT CAP IN A CALENDAR YEAR AND THE SPORTING EVENT AND PUBLIC CELEBRATION REQUIREMENT. WITH THAT, I'D BE WILL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT AND WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WORKED ON THE LIQUOR PIECE AS WELL. >>COUN. GIBSON: MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T SEE ANYONE WHO IS OFFERING ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THIS AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED TRYING TO JUST AS CLOSE AS WE COULD TO, AND THINK WE HAVE TO THE COMMENTARY THAT SURROUNDED THIS RESOLUTION IN OUR LAST MEETING. I THINK I WAS PRETTY CLEAR LAST MEETING. I'LL GO AHEAD AND REITERATE THAT I'M REALLY TRYING TOFLECT NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THERE. AND GIVE THEM SOME REASSURANCE THAT THE PARK IS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED WITH A FOCUS ON SECURITY. THAT IS GOING TO BE LIKE A BRAND NEW PARK. AND IT WOULD BE INVITING AND APPEALING NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE LIVING AROUND THERE BUT SPORTS TOURISM AND THE LIKE. I THINK THAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES THIS. I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT, I DON'T BELIEVE I MOVED THE AMENDMENT. I WILL MOVE THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK YOU HAVE SEVERAL SECONDS. COUNCILOR SENA, IS THAT A SECOND? >>COUN. SENA: FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION SURE. >>COUN. BORREGO: AND THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM HAS COMMENTS. >>COUN. GIBSON: LET'S GO TO THE MAYOR. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, OBVIOUSLY LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR CONCERNS WITH THE BILL AND WITH THIS PROVISION OF THE BILL. I DO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH COUNCILOR GIBSON'S OPENING UP THE CONVERSATION MORE FOR US TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIQUOR AT THIS FACILITY AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. I DID SAY TO YOU EARLIER AFTER I READ THE AMENDMENT THAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE SUPPORTING THAT AND I BELIEVE WE CAN. HOWEVER, THERE IS A PIECE OF THIS AMENDMENT THAT DOES CONCERN US TREMENDOUSLY. THAT'S THE LIMITING AMOUNT OF PERMITS PER 12. IF WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACT EVENTS AT THE FACILITY AND USE IT TO ITS ULTIMATE USE THIS LIMITS THE ABILITY FOR US TO DO THAT. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. IF WE HAVE A TOURNAMENT DURING THE COURSE OF SUMMER MONTHS WHICH WE USUALLY TO, AND WE WOULD USE UP ALL THESE PERMITS WITHIN THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS OF THE SUMMER AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL EVENTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALCOHOL AT THE SITE. WE WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT PROVISION OF THIS AMENDMENT. YOUR MOVEMENT ON THIS IS APPRECIATED. I THINK IT GETS US WHERE WE NEED TO GO. ULTIMATELY, WE PREFER NOT TO HAVE THIS AT ALL. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT HELPS US MOVE AND MEET YOU HALFWAY WE CERTAINLY CAN LIVE WITH THE AMENDMENT WITHOUT THE REQUIRED 12 PERMITS. THAT DOES CREATE A BIGGER ISSUE FOR US OPERATIONALLY. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER? LET'S PUT THE RIGHT NUMBER IN THERE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WHEN WE ISSUE THESE PERMITS ESPECIALLY THE ESPECIALLY SPECIAL PERMITS, THERE'S A WHOLE REQUIREMENT OF SECURITY AND A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE THESE ARE DONE CORRECTLY. RATHER THAN POT -- PUT A NUMBER WE PREFER WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED BY THE PROCESS ANYWAY. I THINK PUTTING THE NUMBER REALLY CREATES A CHALLENGE. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF WE WANT TO PUT A NUMBER IN THERE, I'D SAY 50. I DON'T WANT TO BE OVERLY ZEALOUS ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE. THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUIRES A CERTAIN PROCESS THAT WILL LIMIT SOME OF THE PERMITS. IF THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO LIMIT THE ACTIVITY THAT HAVE LIQUOR SALES THE AMENDMENT ALONE WILL HAVE A DAMPER ON THAT. PUTTING A NUMBER ON THAT MAKES IT MORE RESTRICTIVE. I BELIEVE THAT'S WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE THAT LIMITATION. TO PUT THAT IN THERE. IF YOU CAN HELP ME IN GIVING REASSURANCE. I MEAN REALLY HEART FELT, SOMETHING WE CAN REALLY BACK UP TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THERE WHO UNDERSTAND THAT YES WE SOFTWALL -- SOFTBALL GAMES AND REGULAR TOURNAMENTS THAT GO ON. THERE'S BEER SERVED. HELP ME, WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GRANT THEM SOME REASSURANCE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I THINK THAT WHAT YOU DONE WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND ABSENT THIS PORTION OF IT IS REALLY A STRONG SIGNAL TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT BRING BEER AND WINE INTO THE SITE IN THEIR COOLERS. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT FROM HAPPENING. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPENING ON A DAILY BASIS OR EVENT BY EVENT BASIS. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF I'M IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S ALREADY A HUGE LIMITATION. ADDITIONALLY, THESE SPECIAL USE PERMITS GO THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS AND THEY REQUIRE SECURITY AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT ALREADY WOULD GIVE NEIGHBORS A SENSE THERE'S A REASONABLE TESTING PUT BEFORE THE HEARING OFFICER TO ALLOW THESE PERMITS TO BE AUTHORIZED. THOSE TWO ALONE WOULD GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOME REAL SENSE THAT THE CITY IS MANAGING THIS IN A PRUDENT MANNER AND WE HAVE THE CONTROLS AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE WHAT WAS GOING ON BEFORE IS NOT GOING TO BE THE NORM ANYMORE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I'LL TELL YOU THE CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US IN GOVERNMENT WILL BE THE ENFORCEABILITY. THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO HAVE SECURITY FOLKS AT THE SITE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PRACTICING ON THESE FIELDS ON A DAILY BASIS. THEY BRING COOLERS ALL THE TIME. THAT'S REQUIRING TO LOOK IN THE COOLERS WILL BE A CHALLENGE. WITH THIS AMENDMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS AT LEAST WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND MANAGING THAT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN. I THINK THOSE TWO ISSUES ALONE SHOULD GIVE THE NEIGHBORS A GREATER COMFORT THAT THE CITY IS FOCUSING ON ENSURING WE HAVE A HEALTHY AND GOOD AREA FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER. AND ALSO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ISSUES IN THE FOREFRONT. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE BRINGING LIQUOR ON TO THE PARK IS THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN. THEY DID ASK FOR LIMITATIONS. BECAUSE MAYBE THAT CAN BE ALLEVIATED. THEIR FEARS CAN BE ALLEVIATED A LITTLE BIT BY DEMONSTRATING TO THEM THAT THE CITY IS SERIOUS ABOUT PROVIDING ADEQUATE SECURITY. NOT ONLY DURING THE ALCOHOL BEING SOLD, BUT I HAVE TOLD THEM THE CITY HAS ENOUGH FUNDING FOR TWO FULL-TIME SECURITY GUARDS DEDICATED TO THE PARK. THAT'S HELPFUL. EVERYTHING IS HELPFUL. I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE, SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOURSELF AND THE 11th FLOOR TO REMIND THEM THAT THE CITY DOES WANT THIS TO BE A REALLY GOOD PARK AND A REALLY SAFE FOR THEM TO COME AND BRING THEIR FAMILIES. WE CAN STRIKE THAT PART OF THIS AMENDMENT THAT CALLS FOR UPPER LIMIT. CAN YOU DO THAT EASILY ENOUGH FOR US NOW? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, I MIGHT CHECK WITH DIRECTOR MELENDREZ TO MAKE SURE I CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT ON THE FLY AND I CAN GET THE DOCUMENTATION TO MS. ORTEGA TOMORROW. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, IT LOOKS LIKE WITHIN THE AMENDMENT THERE'S A SUBSECTION B SMALL I, IT LOOKS LIKE THE LAST SENTENCE OF THAT IS STRICKEN IT WOULD GET THE AMENDMENT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. THAT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S SOMETHING THE MOVER OF THE AMENDMENT COULD PROPOSE TO HAVE REMOVED FROM THEIR AMENDMENT BEFORE THE FINAL VOTE. >>COUN. GIBSON: I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE SECTION B, I, IT'S IN BRACKETS. IT STARTS NOT WITHSTANDING THE ABOVE AND ENDS WITH THE LAST SENTENCE THE PARKS SHALL ISSUE NO MORE THAN 12 SUCH PERMITS PER CALENDAR YEAR FOR LOS ALTOS PARK. LET'S STRIKE THAT LAST SENTENCE. NOW CAN WE VOTE WITHOUT THAT SENTENCE? ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT DO IT? >> I'M SORRY, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ASKING THAT. YES. I ASK ANY COUNCILORS TO ASK IF IT'S NOT CLEAR. IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME ON THE AMENDMENT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'D LIKE A CLARIFICATION ON HOW THIS DIFFERS FROM ANY OTHER SALE OF LIQUOR AT ANY OTHER REGIONAL PARK THAT WE MANAGE? DOES IT CHANGE WHAT WE DO ALREADY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IN SOME WAYS. YES, IT DOES. AS OF NOW, THE CITY'S RESOLUTION PRESCRIBING THE ABILITY TO SERVE LIQUOR AT CITY PARKS ALREADY AUTHORIZES SPECIAL EVENTS LIQUOR SERVICE. THAT MUST GO THROUGH A PROCESS THROUGH STATE OF NEW MEXICO REGULATION LICENSING AND THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING OFFICE. WHAT THIS CHANGES ABOUT THAT WITH RESPECT TO LOS ALTOS IS IT LIMITS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT TO SPORTING EVENTS AND PUBLIC CELEBRATIONS. IT'S GENERALLY MY OBSERVATION THAT IS GENERALLY THE CATEGORY OF EVENTS THAT USUALLY ATTRACT THESE TYPE OF PERMITS ANYWAY. I DON'T KNOW IT'S A HUGE LIMITATION BUT IT WOULD BE THE UNIQUE ASPECT OF IT THAT APPLIES TO LOS ALTOS PARK. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTS ITS SPECIAL USE DEPARTMENT WHEN IT ASSOCIATES ONE OF THOSE TWO TYPES OF EVENTS. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO WE ALSO NEED TO AMEND OUT COUNCILOR GIBSON UNDER THE EXPLANATION, THE LAST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH? >>COUN. GIBSON: DO WE MODIFY THE EXPLANATION? >> THE EXPLANATION COMPONENT IS COURTESY OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S NOT CODIFIED OR OFFICIAL POLICY. IT'S CONTEXTUAL. YOU CAN STRIKE THAT WITHIN YOUR MINDS. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANYTHING FORMAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M JUST SAYING IT SAYS LIMITS PERMITS TO 12 IN A CALENDAR YEAR. WE NEED TO STRIKE THAT. EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON THE RECORD. THE INTENT IS THERE. COUNCILOR SENA, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT. >>COUN. SENA: IT WAS RELATED TO THIS LINE OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW MANY EVENTS EACH TIME OF THE YEAR THAT LOS ALTOS REALLY HAS. I THINK THIS IS HEL -- REALLY A COMPROMISE THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERN. I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE JUST FOR THE QUESTION WE HAVE SUMMER FIRST OR WESTFEST. IT'S THE INDIVIDUAL HOSTING THEM THAT'S UNDER THE THEIR ALCOHOL OR PERMIT LICENSE. YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN AREA FENCING SO THE INDIVIDUALS SERVING ALCOHOL ARE GETTING CARDED. THERE'S LOT OF SPECIAL PARAMETERS THAT FALL UNDER SPECIAL PERMITS FOR THIS TYPE OF EVENT THAT THE COUNCILOR IS PROPOSING. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS UNDERSTANDING THAT AS TO WHAT THE IS SPECIAL CONDITIONS. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT THAT MR. RAEL DOESED THAT AS WELL. JUST OVERALL WHAT DOES AN INDIVIDUAL SAY IF THEY'RE HOSTING A TOURNAMENT HERE WHAT WOULD THEY HAVE TO DO IN TERMS OF GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR THAT PERMIT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. REMEMBER, THIS IS THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT FOR THE PERMIT. ON BEHALF OF AN EVENT. YOU CAN GET A SCENARIO YOU HAVE A CITIZEN'S EVENT THAT MAY BE LED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR OTHERS BUT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AS YOU STATED, MOST OF THESE, AND I'M NOT AS WELL-VERSED AS YOUR DIRECTOR IS AS TO WHAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THE LIQUOR HEARING PROCESS HAPPENS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. AS YOU SAID EARLIER YOU HAVE TO HAVE QUARANTINE AREA, SECURITY, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE CHECKING I.D. FOR THE PROP AGE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF HAVING AN EVENT AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AGAIN, THIS IS PARTICULAR CASE, THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF IS ASKING FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE PERMIT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE ON YOUR AMENDMENT? >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE AMENDED AMENDMENT. I THINK IT DOES STRIKE A PRETTY GOOD MIDDLE GROUND THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE CLOSEST TO THIS PARK HAS REALLY FELT THE BRUNT OF DIFFICULT ISSUES. WE'LL CALL IT THAT. AND THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE PARK WHO WATCH SOFTBALL. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WITH THAT, WE'LL VOTE ON WHAT WE REFER TO AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THAT IS AMENDED. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL AS AMENDED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY MORE COMMENT REGARDING THAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY COUNCILORS ASKING FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. GIBSON: RIGHT. WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS AT LEAST SOMEWHAT LAST MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS THEY WANT TO MAKE ON IT? THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT I WAS BRIEFED ON WHEN I CAME IN EIGHT YEARS AGO. THE RENOVATION LOS ALTOS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN MY MIND. WE WORKED REAL HARD WITH COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION WORKED REAL HARD TO GET THE SWIMMING POOL COMPLETED. THE BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT. AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT AND NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE PARK. IT'S A HUGE ENDEAVOR AND I WANT SOME -- I WANT TO SAY ONE LAST TIME PLEASE EVERYBODY WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THIS WORKS. I DO URGE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I'LL CONSIDER THAT YOUR CLOSE. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. SENA: NO. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM WHICH IS THE REGULAR AGENDA. ITEM D-R215. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. R-215 IS MAKING FINDINGS IN WIN WINROCK ISSUING THE SALE AND LEAN TAX INCREMENT BONDS AND RATIFYING AND APPROVING THE SALES OF THE WINROCK DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ONE SENIOR LIEN GROSS RECEIPTS TAX INCREMENT BOND SERIES 2021. I MOVE A DUE PASS. MADAM PRESIDENT, WE DO HAVE MR. NICK DODD. >>COUN. BORREGO: I BELIEVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. IS THAT A SECOND, COUNCILOR SENA? >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL MOVE TO THE INDIVIDUAL YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. >>COUN. GIBSON: OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. DODD. I DON'T SEE HIM. >>COUN. BORREGO: BEFORE WE MOVE TO THAT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, DID YOU WANT TO MOVE YOUR FLOOR SUB? >>COUN. GIBSON: YES, THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A SUBSTITUTE FOR THIS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE IN YOUR iPADS, IF I CAN GET A SECOND? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBAND COUNCILOR DAVIS HAS SECONDED. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. THE MATTER BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE WINROCK TAX INCREMENT DISTRICT THIS IS PRIMARILY A REFINANCING OF THE 2015 BONDS. INTEREST RATES ARE LOWER TODAY. THE SAVING ARE NORTH OF 13% AND THERE WILL BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR SOME ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THIS WILL BE THE THIRD BOND FAILED BY THE WINROCK SINCE 2015 AS YOU MAY REMEMBER WE WERE BEFORE THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO COVID. GOT CAUGHT IN COVID. THIS IS FINALLY BRINGING BACK TO CLOSURE THE REFINANCING OF THOSE BONDS WHICH WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO ACHIVE BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC. I'LL PAUSE THERE AND WOULD BE HAPPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BORREGO: I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON. STICK AROUND, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS. ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY COMMENTS ON THE FLOOR SUB. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0 ON THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT FLOOR SUBPASSES ON A 9-0. WE'LL MOVE TO THE ORIGINAL BILL. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THIS IS THE THIRD BILL THAT HAS COME BEFORE THIS BODY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. WITH THERE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILORS, I WAS LOOKING TO TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK. OR I CAN JUST KEEP ON GOING. IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE HAVE TOO MANY ITEMS LEFT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE COULD MOVE THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY, I THINK. >>COUN. JONES: MY VOTE IS MOVE THROUGH. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE SIX AMENDMENTS ON ONE. LET'S TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL WHICH BACK AT 7:47. >>COUN. BORREGO: WELCOME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE TOOK A 15-MINUTE BREAK. THANK YOU FOR COUNCILORS FOR JOINING US AGAIN. WE'LL HAVE ALL COUNCILORS EXCEPT COUNCILOR BENTON. THIS IS OUR 46th MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. WE'LL CALL IT BACK TO ORDER. WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER E. R-222. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR BORREGO. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-222 IS ESTABLISHING A LEGISLATIVE AND BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR THIS SECOND SESSION OF THE 55th NEW MEXICO STATE LEGISLATURE. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'M SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR SENA, I SEE A SECOND ALSO. COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT? >>COUN. PEÑA: BEFORE WE -- SURE. MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THE AMENDMENTS JUST FOR TIME SAKE. THEN I CAN GO INTO THE EXPLANATION OF THE BILL. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN DO THAT. WE HAVE THREE AMENDMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. ONE IS SPONSORED BY YOU, TWO ARE SPONSORED BY ME. I CAN EXPLAIN MINE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD WITH YOURS? WE'LL CALL THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT ONE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THERE IT IS. THANK YOU. THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE IS DELETE ATTACHED 1, 2, 3 AND REPLACE WITH THE ATTACHED 1, 2, 3 ATTACHED TO THIS AMENDMENT. THE EXPLANATION IS IT REPLACING THE LIST FOR THE COMING LIST WITH A SET OF CAPITAL REQUESTS. THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE COLLECTS REQUESTS UPON REVIEWING THAT LIST AND GATHERING INFORMATION ON THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE COMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THE IGR ESTABLISHES PROCEDURES TO DEVELOP PRIORITY AND THEY'RE SUBMITTED TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE THE PRIORITY FROM THE LIST OF REQUEST IN THE COMPREHENSIVE LIST. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT WHICH WE WILL CALL NUMBER ONE. IT IS IN YOUR PACKETS, COUNCILORS. IT'S SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA FOR THAT SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. LET ME TAKE ONE MORE LOOK. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. I GUESS I'LL CONSIDER THAT YOUR CLOSE ON THAT AMENDMENT. WE WILL GO TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MOTION PASSES ON A 7-2. I'M SORRY, 6-2 WITH COUNCILOR BENTON EXCUSED. >>COUN. BORREGO: 6-2 VOTE ON THAT. I WILL MOVE OUR NEXT AMENDMENT WHICH IS MY BILL. IT IS LABELLED AS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. I WILL PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN. I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD. GIVE ME A SECOND. FOR ATTACHMENT THREE INSERT THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER. PARK LAY GROUND TO DESIGN A PLAYGROUND AT PETROGLYPH. I ADD THIS AS FLOOR TWO? THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-1 VOTE WITH COUNCILOR BENTON EXCUSED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 7-1 VOTE. I HAVE ONE MORE FLOOR AMENDMENT. IT'S LABELLED AS ITEM THREE. FLOOR AMENDMENT FLB -- NUMBER THREE. WE HAVE THAT ON THE SCREEN. INSORT THE FOLLOWING LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY. CLOUD BASED ENGINE TO TRACK CASES FROM POINT OF INCENSION TO POINT OF DISPOSITION. I'LL MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILOR PEÑA, THANK YOU FOR THAT SECOND. IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM WANTS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT? I'M NOT SURE WHO IS SPEAKING. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> THIS IS ISAAC. WE'RE REQUESTING TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY WHO IS WORKING WITH THE CJCC. WE'RE ASKING THE STATE TO FUND THIS PARTICULAR SYSTEM. THIS ALLOWS US TO TRACK SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN ARRESTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. THAT'S THROUGH THE D.A. AND COURT AND ALL THAT STUFF. THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MAY WE JUST SEE THAT ONE MORE TIME? I'M MISSING IT IN MY iPAD. CAN WE LOOK AT IT? I LIKE THE EXPLANATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T OPPOSE THIS. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT,COUNCILOR DAVIS YES. MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA. IS THIS THE SAME PROJECT THAT THE D.A. WAS WORKING WITH THE DOJ GRANT OR IS THIS SOME OTHER EFFORT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH NEW MEXICO TECH ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THEY ASKED US AND WE SAID YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 7-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR BENTON HAD TO LEAVE AND SO DID COUNCILOR GIBSON. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE BILL. COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? >>COUN. PEÑA: ABSOLUTELY. I'D LIKE TO BE BRIEF. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ONE THING I NOTICED, MADAM PRESIDENT, IF YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE BILL I WANT TO THANK YOU, JEFF, EVERYBODY AT COUNCIL SERVICES. I DON'T SEE THE PART ABOUT THE ONLINE STUFF. CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE IT'S AT? >> MADAM CHAIR, IT'S ATTACHMENT ONE. IF YOU GO TO -- I APOLOGIZE. LET ME CHECK IF IT'S IN THE SECOND ATTACHMENT. YES UM. IT'S A MISTAKE ON MY PART. THERE IS ANOTHER -- I CAN READ IT IN FOR YOU REAL QUICKLY. IT'S THE SECOND ONE DOWN. FIRST ONE WOULD SAY, HOUSING INCOME, I HOPE I HAVE IT CORRECT. I HAVE THE RIGHT ONE HERE. AND INTERNET TAX QUESTION MANAGEMENT AND DATA PROVISIONS. IS THAT IN THERE? >>COUN. PEÑA: MY ANALYST MUST NOT HAVE PRINTED THE CORRECT ONE. I DON'T HAVE IT IN HERE. >> I'LL VERIFY THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF NOT, WE NEED TO ADD IT AS AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: DOES EVERYONE HAVE THAT IN YOUR PACKET? >>COUN. BORREGO: I BELIEVE WE DO COUNCILOR. DO YOU WANT TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD? WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE AMENDMENTS. THAT WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR. >> IF IT'S NOT IN THERE, I APOLOGIZE IT'S A MISTAKE ON MY PART. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. ORTEGA, DO YOU EVER THAT? >> YES, I DO. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN. IT'S PAGE TWO OF THE PDF. >>COUN. PEÑA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE. THE REASON I'M REFERENCING THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLINE. >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, IT WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE. INTERNET TAX COLLECTION MANAGEMENT AND DATA PROVISIONS. THIS IS WORKED OUT WITH THE CFO BACA AND CITY BUDGET OFFICER. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. SHE MUST HAVE PRINTED THE INCORRECT ONE. IT LOOKS LIKE I'M MISSING THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, DO WE NEED TO ADD THAT? >>COUN. PEÑA: APPARENTLY IT'S THERE. I JUST WANT TODAY SAY THERE'S SOME IMPORTANT LEGISLATION IN HERE AND TOM, IF YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY GO OVER SOME OF THE POLICY STUFF THAT WE ADDED IN HERE IN ADDITION TO MANY OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT EVEN IN THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE CITY PRIORITIES TO THE LURCH, THEY MIRROR TO THE ORDINANCE THAT JUST FAILED. IT HAS THE POOL, IT HAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY, IT HAS CIBOLA LOOP. IF WE GO TO THE SATE LEGISLATURE THEY ASK WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THESE. WE WERE HOPING TO SAY WE'RE HERE IN AND WITH YOUR SUPPORT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETELY FINISH THESE PROJECTS. I THINK IT'S CHANGING IT JUST A LITTLE. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THESE BILLS DON'T MARRY EACH OTHER. THEY WERE COMPLIMENTARY OF EACH OTHER. WE HAVE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT POLICY STATEMENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IN HERE. ONE OF THEM WAS ONE THAT COUNCILOR BORREGO INTRODUCED ABOUT REDUCING CRIMINAL FIREARM USE AND HOUSING INCOME DISCRIMINATION AND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. AND SUBSTANCE AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. AND ONE IN PARTICULAR WAS SOMETIMES YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OF COLOR OR JUST YOUNG FOLKS IN GENERAL WE HAVE A PROVISION THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE REMOVED AT THE STATE TO REMOVE MARIJUANA FROM PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYMENT EXCLUSION AND THIS WOULD REMOVE STATE STATUTORY EXCLUSION PROHIBITING APPLICANTS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS WHO ACKNOWLEDGE USING MARIJUANA FROM APPLYING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS. I THINK THAT'S A REAL IMPORTANT POLICY STATEMENT. AND THE ONE THAT I DON'T HAVE ON MY LIST THAT IS ABOUT OUR INTERNET TAX. WE'RE JUST ASKING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO REALLY COME UP AND STREAMLINE A PROCESS SO IT'S MORE PREDICTABLE SO WE KNOW WHAT AS A CITY WE'RE GETTING MUCH LIKE THE WAY WE DO WITH OUR GRT. AND OF COURSE A WHOLE HOST OF PRIORITIES PER DISTRICT. WE HAVE IN HERE FOUR PRIORITIES PER PREDICT. -- PER DISTRICT. WE HAVE MUCH MORE, WHAT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS LEGISLATION WE'VE DECIDED AS A COUNCIL TO ADD OUR TOP FOUR PRIORITIES. ME, LIKE OTHER COUNCILORS WILL GO UP AND HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER REQUESTS. AND OF COURSE TO THIS LIST IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S PRIORITIES AS WELL. TOM, IF YOU'LL SAY ANYTHING. I'M SORRY I SAID I WAS GOING TO BE BRIEF AND I WENT ON. >> COUNCILOR PEÑA SAID IT QUITE WELL. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I ADD THAT IF YOU LOOK REAL CLOSE YOU MIGHT RUN INTO COUNCILOR SENA AND I IN SANTA FE. I JUST WANT TODAY MENTION ALSO, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILOR BASSAN ON M-11 I HOPE ALL OF THE COUNCILORS, SINCE I WILL NOT BE HERE WILL LOOK TO THEIR LEGISLATORS REGARDING THAT. I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THEY'RE REALLY QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THIS BILL AND HOW THEY INSTITUTE SOME OF THE PROVISIONS AND TRY TO MOVE THEM FORWARD. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL CLOSE AND URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. I SHOULD SAY IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE LEGISLATURE YOU MIGHT ALSO RUN INTO COUNCILOR HARRIS AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM G. WHICH IS R-224 AND THIS IS COUNCILOR PEÑA. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALSO HAVE THREE AMENDMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR BILL. COUNCILOR PEÑA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR BILL? >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. R-224 IS ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2021 APPROPRIATIONS FOR CERTAIN FUNDS AND PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE FOR ACTUALLY EXPEND XHRS AND ADJUSTING FISCAL YEAR 2022 OPERATIONS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'LL SECOND THAT BILL. THAT VOTE. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA ALSO. COUNCILORS, WE HAVE THREE FLOOR AMENDMENTS. ONE IS SPONSORED BY MYSELF, ONE IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS,AND ONE IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR SENA. IN THAT ORDER, I WILL CALL MY ITEM FLOOR AMENDMENTS NUMBER ONE. MR. MOYA, THANK YOU. ON PAGE FIVE AFTER LINE FOUR INSORT THE FOLLOWING, PASEO DEL VOLCAN IN THE AMOUNT OF $686,000. I'M MOVING THAT TO PASEO DEL NORTE. I MOVE THAT AMENDMENT. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR DAVIS, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS SOME REALLY OLD MONEY, COUNCILORS. I THINK IT'S HIGHLY APPROPRIATE. MS. ORTEGA, TAKE THE VOTE ON THIS. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE WILL MOVE TO AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WAS SAYING THINGS NO ONE BUT MY DOG COULD HEAR. THIS AMENDMENT ADDS CLEAN UP FOR OPERATING EXPENDITURE. IT CONTINUES THE COMMITMENT TO THE TINY HOME VILLAGE. THAT PROJECT IS FULLY BUILT BUT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR STAFFING TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS. SO, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO FUND OUR COMMITMENT TO HOUSING TO DO THAT. IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO BEGIN FUNDING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT LIBRARY PARK ASSOCIATED. IT'S WHERE THEY BUILD IT TO SOLVE THE DRAINING PROBLEMS IN THE POORER INFRASTRUCTURE NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS WOULD START THAT PLANNING PROCESS FOR DESIGN. >>COUN. BORREGO: MAY I JUST DEFINE THAT AS A DRAINAGE FACILITY. I'LL SECOND THAT, COUNCILOR. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS BECAUSE ALTHOUGH I LOVE LIBRARY AND HELPING PEOPLE WE'VE SEEN THE DEBACLE THAT IS THE SITUATION OF THE TINY HOME VILLAGE. WHY? WHY? >>COUN. DAVIS: BECAUSE THERE'S A DEBACLE. I AGREE WITH YOU IN THAT REGARD. THERE'S 40-SOME RESIDENTS. I THINK LESS THAN THREE OR FOUR ARE OCCUPIED AND THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO CREATE A RESIDENT COUNCIL THAT SCREENS PEOPLE AND RECRUIT RESIDENTS, AS IT TURNS OUT THAT IS NOT WORKING. THE COUNTY IS MOVING TO A TRADITIONAL MODEL WITH THEY HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS AND STAFF ON-SITE TO HELP GUIDE THAT PROCESS. THERE'S BEEN A SURGE OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GET INTO THE FACILITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T COME WITH CASE WORKERS. THIS PROVIDES CASE WORKERS. WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE 4,000 PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE TAKING THEM OFF THE STREETS AND GIVING A SOLUTION. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THE COUNT AN ASKED US TO HELP WITH. YANK I THINK . >>COUN. BASSAN: I THINK THAT -- THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. IT HELPS. HERE'S HOPING THE FUNDING WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF AN EXISTING FACILITY WILL BE A WINNER. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND REDUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS THROUGHOUT ALBUQUERQUE. I SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE I REFUSE TO HOLD A HUGE, EVEN THOUGH I REALLY WANT TO. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THAT FROM MY CALLING FROM THE HEIGHT. IT WON'T BE FORGOTTEN WHEN WECOME BACK NEXT YEAR. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS A COUNTY FACILITY ASK A COUNTY PROGRAM. WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK THE COUNTY FOR A FEW HUNDRED COPS OR BUS DRIVERS. WHY DON'T THEY DO IT FOR US? THAT'S THEIR PROGRAM. THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT DONE. ARE WE GOING TO KEEP COMING UP AND SAYING -- THAT'S HOW WE GET INTO THE SITUATION WITH ALBUQUERQUE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WE KEPT WAIL -- BAILING THEM OUT. FOR THAT REASON, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF I MAY RESPOND, I UNDERSTAND THE POSITION. I EXPECT AND UNDERSTAND IT. I REMIND THE COUNCILOR THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S A COUNTY RUN FACILITY IT'S WITHIN THE CITY AND THE FOLKS WITHIN THE FACILITY ARE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF CAPITAL AND OPERATING IN THE PAST. THE COUNTY IS CHANGING THEIR MODEL I WANT TO GIVE THEM ONE TIME TO USE THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO TRY OUT A NEW MEWEDAL -- MODEL. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. >>COUN. HARRIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WITHIN THE COUNTY OF BERNALILLO. THAT ARGUMENT GETS YOU NOWHERE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER IN THE COMMENTS? WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE ON AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. OUR LAST AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR SENA. WHICH WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? >>COUN. BASSAN: I DON'T MIND TO START. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE ON PAGE THREE AFTER 18 INSERT THE FOLLOWING CHILDREN AND FAMILY DEVELOPMENT FOR $250,000 THIS IS TO RESTORE TO ALL FAITHS CHILDREN'S CENTER. THIS COMES FROM THE AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALBUQUERQUE TO KNOW AND BEYOND THAT THEY DO TRAUMA-BASED WORK WITH CHILDREN WHO ARE IMPACTED BY VIOLENCE AT HOME WHETHER THEY WITNESS SOMETHING OR EXPERIENCE SOMETHING THEMSELVES. THIS IS THE ONLY STATE IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO THAT DOES THIS. I BELIEVE IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE OUR CRIME CULTURE IN ALBUQUERQUE WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CHILDREN AND MAKE SURE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM. THEY'RE SHORT $250,000 EVERY YEAR IN THE BUDGET. I THINK ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD COMMIT TO MAKING SURE WE FILL THAT COMMITMENT AND WE SUPPORT THEM SO THEY CAN DO WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CHILDREN AND ALBUQUERQUE IN THE LONG RUN. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR SENA, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >>COUN. SENA: THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT. I'M ALSO SECONDING THIS AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY CITY STAFF ON BECAUSE I HAD ACTUALLY, A BUDGET CYCLE OR TWO AGO, I HAD PUT IN $150,000 AND APPARENTLY THEY HAD NEVER RECEIVED IT. LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, IT SEEMS TO -- ANYWAY. MR. MUNOZ, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA YES. THE REQUEST FOR ALL FAITHS CENTER WAS REQUESTED THIS CAREER. I THINK ALL THAT HAPPENED IS IT MAY HAVE JUST DROPPED OFF ACCIDENTALLY. I THINK IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT. I DON'T THINK IT WAS PURPOSEFULLY REMOVED OR ASKED TO BE REMOVED. THE ONLY THING I CAN SEE IS THAT IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE LIST FOR WHATEVER REASON. THAT AMENDMENT DOES ATTEMPT TO CORRECT THAT MISTAKE AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE WON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. >>COUN. PEÑA: SO, MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS ACTUALLY SOME OF THAT MONEY? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> ESSENTIALLY, YES. WE HAD BEEN IN THE PAST APPROPRIATING ABOUT $150,000 IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR. AGAIN, THAT DROPPED UPPA THIS YEAR. THIS INCLUDES $150,000 PLUS ADDITIONAL FUNDS. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR SENA, I WOULD LOVE TO ADD MY NAME AS A CO-SPONSOR. I HAD THOUGHT THEY HAD BEEN RECEIVING THE MONEY. COME TO FIND OUT WHEN THEY PRESENTED TO US THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED MONEY IN A WHILE I WAS SURPRISED. I'D LOVE TO ADD MY NAME IF YOU WILL HAVE ME. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M FINE WITH THAT. I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I NEED CHARGE THIS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, WE'RE ALMOST DONE. THE MAYOR'S CONFERENCE ROOM, YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, YES JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH MR. MUNOZ. IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT AND WE'LL MAKE IT RIGHT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL MOVE BACK TO R-224 AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON A 7-0. WITH THAT COUNCILORS, THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.