. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS JANUARY 22ND MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISES THE CITY COUNCIL ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, LONG RANGE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. SOME ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE STUDY ITEMS WHERE WE WILL NOT TAKE FORMAL ACTION WHILE OTHER ITEMS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE WE WILL TAKE FORMAL ACTION WHEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THE PUBLIC IS ENCOURAGED TO TESTIFY. YOU CAN DO SO HERE AT CITY HALL AND THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS. YOU CAN ALSO DO SO VIRTUAL BY FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS ON YOUR SCREEN ON SOME ITEMS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FINAL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. OTHER ITEMS THE CITY COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTS IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MADE UP OF SEVEN VOLUNTEER RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. EACH PLANNING COMMISSIONER HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO SERVE A THREE YEAR TERM WITH A TWO TERM LIMIT. WE HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS HERE AT CITY HALL. WE ALSO HAVE ONE REMOTELY FOR SIX TOTAL COMMISSIONERS SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. AS WE BEGIN THIS EVENING I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL . WE HAVE SIX ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING WILL SERVE WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN EXISTING VACANT VEHICLE REPAIR FACILITY AT 9200 LYNDALE AVENUE SOUTH. MR. DILLON PALMER IS HERE WITH A STAFF REPORT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN MY NAME IS DYLAN PALMER WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE. SO THIS IS THE LOCATION FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT'S AT 9200 LYNDALE AVENUE SOUTH. THE APPLICATION IS FOR MINOR VEHICLE REPAIRS. THAT'S YOUR TYPICAL I HATE TO THROW A BRAND NAME OUT THERE BUT LIKE JIFFY LUBE OR TAKE FIVE OR SOME KIND OF A YOU KNOW, QUICK SERVICE OR AUTO SHOP NOT A BODY SHOP ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS THE LOCATION IT'S JUST NORTH OF TACO BELL IF THAT HELPS YOU PLACE IT AT ALL AT THE CORNER OF LYNDALE AND 92ND THIS IS THE LAND USE GUIDANCE MAP AND ZONING MAP ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THIS IS GUIDED FOR GENERAL BUSINESS AND THEN IT IS ZONED B2 GENERAL COMMERCIAL THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO MAKE ANY MAJOR CHANGES TO THE BUILDING ITSELF. ALL OF THE EXTERIOR CHANGES AT THIS TIME ARE JUST RESTRIPING REPAVING THE PARKING LOT AND THEN EITHER REPLANTING OR ADDING IN NEW LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING ON THE NORTH A BULK OF IT ON THE NORTH AND THE WEST SIDES AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO DO A EITHER RENOVATE THE EXISTING SIGN OR REPLACE THE EXISTING SIGN AND THAT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER RIGHT DAY ON 92ND. THIS IS A FLOOR PLAN. SO AGAIN NO MAJOR CHANGES EXPECTED. OF COURSE THIS CAN CHANGE BASED ON WHAT TENANT TAKES OVER THIS SPACE AND THIS AS I MENTIONED THERE IS NO TENANT CURRENTLY SELECTED. THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT'S BEING PURSUED BY THE CURRENT OWNERS AND THEIR HOPE IS THAT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL BE ABLE TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES INTO THIS VACANT BUILDING. THE BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE PRIOR TO JULY OF 2024. IT USED TO BE A BIG OH TIRE AND I BELIEVE IT WAS AN MTB AT ONE POINT BEFORE THAT. CITY CODE STATES THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT EXPIRES ONE YEAR AFTER YOU CEASES OPERATION AT THE SITE. SINCE THIS CEASED PRIOR TO JULY OF 2024 THE OLDER CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS IN 1984 AND 1985 ARE NOW VOID AND BOTH OF THOSE PERMITS ONE WAS FOR A MUFFLER SHOP AND ONE WAS FOR MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR. THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE SIMILAR TO PRIOR USES AT THE PROPERTY SO AGAIN TIRE SHOPS OR MINOR MINOR AUTO REPAIR THIS IS LOCATED ON LYNDALE AVENUE SO THAT PLACES IT INSIDE OF THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN. YOU'LL NOTICE THIS IS NOT A USE THAT IS RECOMMENDED WITH THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN PLANNERS. WE PREFER THAT THERE BE REDEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF OTHER MORE MIXED USE KIND OF PROPERTIES ALONG LYNDALE AVENUE IN THIS CASE SINCE THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING IT'S A VACANT BUILDING IT STAFF YOU THAT A OPENING A BUSINESS IN A VACANT BUILDING IS PREFERABLE TO HAVING A VACANT SHELL SITTING THERE FOR THE TIME BEING. SO THAT IS THE MAIN REASONING WHY WE'RE NOT REALLY PUSHING THIS WITH THE RETROFIT PLAN. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE YOU SEE THE MAP WITH THE KEY NODES OF THE PLAN. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN BETWEEN THOSE KEYNOTES SO IT'S NOT A MAJOR, MAJOR SPOT FOR REDEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THROUGH THE FOLLOWING MOTION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU MR. PALMER. WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND I'D LIKE TO BEGIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE DONE SOME PROACTIVE REZONING ON LYNDALE AS PART OF THAT LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN. HAS THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL BEEN ZONED AS PART OF THAT PLAN OR HAS THIS BEEN CONSISTENT? CHAIR COOKED IN THIS SITE HAS REMAINED BE TO ZONING. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING BUT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH HEARING FROM THE APPLICANTS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. SO MR. PALMER IS THE APPLICANT HERE. PLEASE COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR APPLICATION . HI THERE. I'M LEAVING EARLY. I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THE APPLICATION. I'M WITH BAKER AND ASSOCIATES TO ADDRESS 901 NORTH THIRD STREET SUITE 135 MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55401 AND I AM HERE TO FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU GUYS FOR HEARING OUR APPLICATION TONIGHT AND THANK YOU TO DYLAN AND STAFF WORKING WITH US TO GET THIS APPLICATION PUT TOGETHER AS THE BUILDING SITS RIGHT NOW THERE IS A CURRENT LEASE ON THE PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT SIX YEARS TO 2031 SO FORESEEABLY THAT BUILDING COULD CONTINUE TO RECEIVE RENT AS IT STANDS FROM THIS LARGER CORPORATION THAT CURRENTLY HAS THAT LEASE. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THE NEW CONDITIONAL PERMIT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN EITHER RELEASE THAT BUILDING OR SELL THAT BUILDING TO A SIMILAR USE AND BRING THAT BUILDING BACK INTO OPERATION. SO AS DYLAN MENTIONED, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FROM 1984 ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL ABOUT 2024 AS A MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR THAT IS THE USE THAT WE WOULD BE PURSUING AS WELL. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO STAFF IT IS MENTIONED THAT WE'VE GOT SOME DEFICIENCY AT THE LYNDALE ENTRANCE THERE. I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE A CITY POOL AS WELL AS A NEIGHBORING POOL DIRECTLY TO THAT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT ENTRANCE. OUR PLAN CURRENTLY ONLY DEPICTS SITES OR LIGHTS THAT ARE ON OUR SITE PARTICULARLY SO IF STAFF IS AMENABLE TO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEND OUT OUR LIGHTING TEAM AND GET A READING WITH THAT SPILL OVER INCLUDED TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR THAT AREA AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS OR ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THERE. WE DO INTEND TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE ONCE THAT BUSINESS OF USE IS DEFINED AND ANY CHANGES INTENDED TO BE MADE TO THE BUILDING CAN BE REVIEWED AND ENSURE THAT THE COMPLIANCE IS IN FACT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR NEW BUSINESS PLAN. IF A NEW TENANT DOES TAKE PLACE AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO STAND. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEE NONE. IF YOU COULD DO ME A FAVOR AND SIGN IN ON THE NOTEPAD THERE. WE DO APPRECIATE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR ENLIGHTENING US ON YOUR APPLICATION. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW IF ANYONE LIKE WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY THEY CAN DO SO DO SO. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY PLEASE COME FORWARD . MR. SPEAKER, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY? CHAIR COOKED IN I BELIEVE EVERYONE ONLINE IS EITHER CITY STAFF OR AN APPLICANT. THANK YOU. MISSPEAK LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN THIS ITEM. SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD. I WILL ASK MR. SPEC TO CALL THE ROLL ONCE THERE IS A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND MR. SPEAKER CAPTAIN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WHITE I MONSTER I SUMMERS I HAVE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO AND WE WILL MOVE TO DISCUSSION MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR I THINK THIS APPLICATION IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE KEYNOTES OF 12I HAVE NO RETROFIT PLAN AND ZONED CORRECTLY. CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS CAN BE KIND OF FINICKY AND I UNDERSTAND WHY A BUILDING OWNER WOULD WANT TO RE-UP THIS TO MAKE IT A MORE MARKETABLE SPACE. I'M IN IN FAVOR OF FOLLOWING STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM I'M REALLY SENSITIVE TO THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN. I'M THE LAST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAD A HAND IN WRITING THAT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT VISION FOR THIS CITY AS WE AS WE ALL HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS. IT'S BLOOMINGTON STRUGGLES WITH HAVING ITS OWN IDENTITY. WE'RE VERY GOOD AT NATIONAL BRANDS AND BIG ATTRACTIONS BUT WE'RE NOT GOOD AT LOCAL THINGS AND THAT'S SORT OF THE VISION FOR LYNDALE IS TO HAVE LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SORT OF A MAIN STREET FOR OUR CITY THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE AND THE LYNDALE AVENUE RETROFIT PLAN IS REALLY THE CORNERSTONE OF THAT AND I THINK IT'S GOING WELL AND THE VISION OF THAT PLAN IS TO GET AWAY FROM CARS. I DON'T THINK IT'S TO SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CARS ANYMORE. I THINK THAT'S THAT'S UNREALISTIC BUT IT DOES ENCOURAGE THE CITY AND AND AND OUR COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL TO MOVE AWAY FROM AUTO CENTERED BUSINESSES AND TO MIX OUR MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND WINDOW. THAT SAID, WE STILL HAVE FINDINGS TO MAKE AND ONE OF THE FINDINGS IS NOT AVAILABLE TO ME THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO PRECLUDE THIS BUSINESS. I DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I DON'T LIKE VACANT BUILDINGS EITHER. THAT'S NOT A BIG PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THE CITY BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A TENANT IN A BUILDING THAN NOT. AND SO ALTHOUGH THIS DOESN'T EXACTLY THIS DOESN'T MEET WHAT I BELIEVE THE FUTURE OF LYNDALE IS IF IT'S IF IT'S THIS USAGE FOR A WHILE I THINK I CAN LIVE WITH IT. WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO ON LYNDALE I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE 30 YEARS TO TOTALLY COMPLETE THE VISION FOR WHAT WE HAVE THERE AND IF SOME OF THOSE IS WITH THIS USAGE I CAN SUPPORT IT. COMMISSIONER WHITE THANK YOU. CHAIR KICKED IN AND I APOLOGIZE. THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR STAFF BUT IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME UNTIL I WAS LISTENING TO YOU SPEAK. I BELIEVE YOU SAID IN ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS EXPIRE FOR IF THE BUSINESSES AND ACT OR THE PERMIT IS AN ACTIVE FOR A YEAR WITH NO CURRENT TENANT. DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF WE GRANT THIS AND IT'S APPROVED THAT IN A YEAR IF THE IF THERE IS NO TENANT THAT IS USING THE PERMIT THAT THE PERMIT WOULD AGAIN EXPIRE. CHAIR COOKED IN COMMISSIONER WHITE THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT WORKS. I CAN DEFER TO CITY ATTORNEY KOSKY IF HE HAS ANY MORE DETAILS ON IT. MR. TUSK SURE, COMMISSIONER. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS I WAS LOOKING AT THAT SECTION RIGHT NOW THE USE HAS TO COMMENCE WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE COMMISSION AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT KIND OF GOES AWAY. SOMEONE CAN APPLY TO THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR AN EXTENSION OF A YEAR SO IF THAT'S GRANTED YOU'D HAVE TWO YEARS IF NOT ONE TO ESTABLISH THE USE AND THEN LIKE WE SAID IF IT DISCONTINUES FOR MORE THAN A YEAR IT GOES AWAY AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS APPLICATION? COMMISSIONER MUNSTER THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ONE OF THEM WAS EXCUSE ME COVERED THE SECOND IS WHEN WOULD ANY OF THESE SITE IMPROVEMENTS BE REQUIRED WHEN A NEW TENANT COMES IN AND STARTS OPERATING OR UPON APPROVAL? BUT WHEN DOES THAT GET TRIGGERED? CHAIR IN COMMISSIONER MUNSTER ALL OF OUR CONDITIONS ARE EITHER PRIOR TO PERMIT OR PRIOR TO STARTING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO PRIOR TO THE BUSINESS OPENING MOST OF THESE CONDITIONS HAVE TO BE SATISFIED. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS APPLICATION? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR IN CASE PL 20250020 FOR HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR AT 9200 LYNDALE AVENUE SOUTH. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I WILL ASK MISSPOKE TO CALL THE ROLL COOKED IN I CUNNINGHAM I YOU SAY I WHITE I MUNSTER I SUMMERS I OUR MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS IS A FINAL DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I AND UNLESS AN APPEAL IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY BY 4:30 P.M. ON JANUARY 27TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH ALSO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICATION IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 50 200 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR AGRICULTURE FACILITY. MR. PALMER, YOU'RE BACK FOR A SECOND STAFF REPORT . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIR COOKED IN AGAIN. MY NAME'S DON PALMER HERE TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR INDOOR AGRICULTURE. IN THIS CASE IT IS CANNABIS CULTIVATION LOCATED AT 33 WEST 86TH STREET. THIS IS THE LOCATION AND THE SITE SO IT'S LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF WEST 86. THIS IS JUST TO THE EAST OF THE CUB FOODS ENTRANCE OFF OF 86TH STREET. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE LYNDALE AVENUE AREA INDUSTRIAL AREA. THIS IS A MULTITENANT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING SO IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ON THERE IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS BUT THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE SITE IS OFF OF WEST 86TH STREET. IT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF THE BUILDING TO THE NORTH IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. THIS IS THE LAND USE GUIDANCE MAP AND ZONING MAP SO IT'S GUIDED INDUSTRIAL AGAIN SURROUNDED BY INDUSTRIAL GUIDANCE AS WELL. IT'S ZONED I THREE GENERAL INDUSTRY ALSO SURROUNDED BY THREE ZONING. THIS IS A SITE PLAN SO IN THIS CASE NORTH IS TO THE LEFT ON THIS MAP THE PROPOSED TENANT SPACE IS IN SWEET J SO IT'S RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THAT MULTI-TENANT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING AND THEN THIS IS A FLOOR PLAN IN THE BUILDING AGAIN SWEET J RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE IN THE BUILDING THERE THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN I ALSO BELIEVE THEY HAVE A SOME KIND OF ACCESS INTO THE NORTH WAREHOUSE SECTION OF THE BUILDING AS WELL. AND THEN THIS IS THE TENANT FLOOR PLAN. SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A FIVE FLOWER ROOM SO THAT'S WHERE THE PLANTS ARE ACTUALLY GROWN AT AND THEN THEY HAVE ALL OF THE OTHER ADDITIONAL ROOMS THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO CULTIVATE CANNABIS PLANTS. SO CANNABIS CULTIVATION CITY CODE DOES NOT HAVE A DEFINITION FOR CANNABIS CULTIVATION IT'S CLASSIFIED UNDER INDOOR AGRICULTURE. THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS CANNABIS MANAGEMENT OR OCM AT THE STATE LEVEL ISSUES A CANNABIS CULTIVATOR LICENSE AND UNDER CITY CODE AGAIN THAT JUST FALLS BACK TO INDOOR AGRICULTURE. SO IT'S THE GROWING OF PLANTS IN A SOIL NUTRIENT OR WATER BASED SOLUTION AND INCLUDING HYDROPONICS AND ACCESSORIES AQUACULTURE WITHIN AN ENCLOSED FACILITY SO CANNABIS PLANTS ARE GROWN ON SITE. THE PRODUCTS ARE THEN SOLD TO WHOLESALERS OR TO LICENSED DISPENSARIES. IRRIGATION IS HANDLED IN A CLOSED LOOP SYSTEM AND ALL OF THE WASTE IS DISPOSED OF PER OCEAN RULES. NO RETAIL SALES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ARE PROPOSED WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THIS SITE AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO INSTALL ODOR MITIGATION SYSTEMS AND OTHER LIFE SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND THEN I WILL ADD THAT OCN HAS ADDITIONAL RULES FOR CANNABIS CULTIVATION FOR ODOR MITIGATION AS WELL AS SALES TO THE PUBLIC. I BELIEVE THAT'S A SEPARATE LICENSE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR FOR THROUGH OCM AND I I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT LICENSE OR NOT. SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE LET ME KNOW IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THE MAKES FINAL ACTION ON THIS ITEM. THANK YOU MR. PALMER WE WILL BEGIN WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF . COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS MAY BE A QUESTION THAT THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER WHEN THEY COME UP IF THEY CHOOSE TO COME UP IS THERE SO CANNABIS FLOWER IS BEING GROWN HERE AND IS THERE ANY OTHER PROCESSING PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION? CHAIR COOKED IN COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME SOME KIND OF PROCESSING TO MAKE THE PLANT INTO WHAT THEY SELL IN DISPENSARIES. I'M NOT WELL VERSED IN IT SO I'LL HAVE TO DEFER MOST OF THAT TO THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ? SEE NONE. THANK YOU, MR. PALMER. I WILL ASK IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THIS ITEM . GOOD EVENING. MAY IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE US TO KNOW ABOUT THIS APPLICATION YOU'RE WELCOME TO INFORM US. >> WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL QUESTION? NO QUESTION. IT'S JUST YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR IF YOU WANT TO LET US KNOW ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF WE HAV ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. NOTHING. NOTHING GREAT. KEVIN'S QUESTION SURE. MR. CUNNINGHAM WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU CHAIR. A CANNABIS CULTIVATION FOR GROWING INDOOR HYDROPONIC OR HOWEVER YOU GUYS GROW THE FLOWER IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL PROCESSING? I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE AND DISPENSARIES HAVE OTHER PRODUCTS LIKE GUMMIES OR VAPORIZER CARTRIDGES, THINGS LIKE THAT. ARE YOU DOING ANY OF THAT PROCESSING HERE? IS THIS PURELY ESSENTIALLY A GREENHOUSE? IT'LL BE STRICTLY CULTIVATION ,STRICTLY CULTIVATION. SO THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT IF I COULD HAVE YOU SIGN IN SINCE YOU SPOKE TO IT. I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME TO TAKE A SEAT. THE REST OF YOU AND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO STEP FORWARD TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM. MR. SPEAKER, IS THERE ANYBODY ON LINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY? CHAIR COOKED IN THERE'S ONLY CITY STAFF AND APPLICANTS ONLINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL ASK IF THERE IS A FINAL CALL HERE FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS APPLICATION. SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD. I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS ASPECT CAPTAIN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WAIT MONSTER I SUMMERS I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO WE WILL MOVE TO DISCUSSION MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR AGAIN THIS ONE SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD GOOD USE OF CURRENTLY UNDER UNDERUTILIZED SPACE IN AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING STAFF REPORT WAS VERY THOROUGH AND THANK YOU FOR COMING UP TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO TESTIFY THIS ITEM SPEAK TO IT RATHER COMMISSIONER MUNSTER I'LL JUST I'LL SECOND THAT. I THINK THIS IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF OVER THESE LAST FEW AGENDA ITEMS WE'VE HAD ON THIS TOPIC. I'M LEARNING A LOT ABOUT THE CANNABIS SUPPLY CHAIN IF NO ONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION MR. CUNNINGHAM IN CASE PL 202500205 HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN INDOOR AGRICULTURE CANNABIS CULTIVATION FACILITY IN A MULTI-TENANT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING LOCATED AT 333 WEST 86TH STREET. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR INDOOR AGRICULTURE FACILITY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I WILL LOOK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE MR. ASPECT COOKED IN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WAIT MONSTER I SUMMERS I THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS IS A FINAL DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY BY 4:30 P.M. ON JANUARY 27TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE AGAIN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF TO AVOID A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE ACTING CHAIR FOR THIS APPLICATION WILL BE COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM . THANK YOU. ITEM THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY IN THE MALL OF AMERICA PARKING RAMP. MR. SCENARIO YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU ACTING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS GOOD EVENING MIKE. SOME SCENARIO PLANNING SUPERVISOR AT THE CITY WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT'S BEEN A WHILE IN THE MAKING AND THIS THE LOCATION AND I'LL GET INTO SPECIFICS IS THAT AT THE MALL OF AMERICA? SO I WANT TO START OUT BY JUST REFRESHING YOUR MEMORY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MALL OF AMERICA CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE WERE REFERRING TO AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH LOCATION. WE'RE AT A PRETTY GRAND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE MALL OF AMERICA CAMPUS ISN'T JUST THE MALL PROPER. IT'S ALSO THE THE THE PARKING STRUCTURES, THE SURFACE PARKING LOTS AS WELL AS AREAS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE EAST LOT WHICH IS EAST OF 24TH AVENUE AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT THE CAMPUS JUST ISN'T THE MALL WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A MAJOR COMPONENT OF OUR COMMUNITY BUT ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO PARKING AND PARKING SUPPLY AND PARKING DEMAND, WE DO HAVE TO THINK OF IT AS A CAMPUS AS A WHOLE AND THESE OTHER AREAS DO PROVIDE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING SUPPLY WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF THE THE MAIN FOCUS OF OUR REVIEW TONIGHT. AND SO IF IF THE COMMISSION RECALLS WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS TO AMEND THE CITY CODE AND ONE OF THOSE AMENDMENTS WAS TO ALLOW REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WITHIN EXISTING PARKING STRUCTURES AND ONE OF THOSE AND THAT USE WAS ADDED TO THE SIX TWO DISTRICT WHICH IS WHAT THE MALL IS OWNED. AND SO THE GRAPHIC HERE WHICH WAS FROM THE PARKING I'M SORRY THE INDEPENDENT ENGINEER THEY REPORT IDENTIFIED THE VARIOUS KIND OF PARKING SUPPLY AREAS AND YOU KNOW, COLOR CODED THEM BETWEEN SURFACE AND STRUCTURE PARKING. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE NORTH LOT OF PEOPLE WE ALL HAVE PROBABLY HAVE OUR PREFERENCE ON WHAT OUR FIRST GO TO IS WHEN WE GO TO THE MALL. BUT WHAT THE MALL IS PROPOSING IS TO HAVE A REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING ON THE TOP LEVEL OF THE EAST RAMP. SO WE SEE THE EAST RAMP OBVIOUSLY TO THE EAST OF THE MALL BUILDING AND THE PROPOSAL IS FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING JUST ON THE TOP LEVEL. AND I'LL SHOW YOU ANOTHER IMAGE OF THAT. AND SO THIS IS THE TOP LEVEL OF THE EAST RAMP. SO ON THIS PARTICULAR DAY IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR WHEN THIS IMAGE WAS TAKEN, SEVEN WAS CLOSED AND THE MALL REPRESENTATIVES COULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW OFTEN P SOME P SEVEN IS AVAILABLE FOR PARKING BUT MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BEEN UNAVAILABLE TO FOLKS BECAUSE JUST HASN'T BEEN NEEDED. THERE ARE PEAK THERE ARE PEAK DAYS WHERE THAT SUPPLY HAS BEEN AVAILABLE BUT AS THE YOU KNOW WE OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION AND REPORTING IT REALLY HASN'T EXCEPT FOR A FEW DAYS A YEAR. IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN NECESSARY IN TERMS OF THE LIKE THE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS ON SITE OR WITHIN THE MALL OF AMERICA CAMPUS, VERY LITTLE WOD WOULD ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CHANGE. THERE WOULD BE ACCESS CONTROLS ON THE P SIX LEVEL AS YOU ARE IN P SIX AND GOING UP TO SEVEN SOME PAY KIOSKS AND GATES ACCESS CONTROL GATES IN TERMS OF HOW FOLKS WOULD GET FROM THE EAST RAMP TO THE AIRPORT, THE MALL IS PROPOSING THAT THEY WOULD EITHER USE METRO TRANSIT BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY CONVENIENT TO GET FROM THE EAST RAMP DOWN TO THE TRANSIT STATION. YOU TAKE AN ELEVATOR STRAIGHT DOWN OR RIDESHARE PROGRAMS. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY SORT OF LIKE ROBUST SHUTTLING. SO IT'S REALLY USING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET PEOPLE FROM THE MALL TO THE AIRPORT IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS. SO WE ADDED THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO THE CODE BUT THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT A PARKING STUDY IS DONE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S EXCESS CAPACITY ESSENTIALLY A STUDY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THIS WORKS IN TERMS FOR THE DEMAND THAT WE SEE ON A GIVEN SITE. AND SO THE MALL OF AMERICA PARKING IS PROBABLY THE MOST REPORTED AND OBSERVED POOL OF PARKING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. AND SO THE MALL IS REALLY GOOD DATA REAL TIME DATA ON WHAT'S BEING USED AND SO THEY CAN OBVIOUSLY DO A LOT OF ROBUST ANALYSIS. THAT SAID, PART OF THE PROCESS WAS FOR THE CITY TO REACH OUT TO INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS TO ESSENTIALLY REVIEW THAT DATA AND MAKE THEIR OWN FINDINGS WHICH IS WHAT WHICH IS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET GRAPH ON THE RIGHT IS FROM THE MALL'S CONSULTANT. I'M NOT AS EDUCATED IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING OR RETAIL PARKING DEMAND PROCESSES BUT IT'S OFTEN THE 20TH HIGHEST. OUR PARKING DEMAND IS USUALLY THE KIND OF THE GO TO IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE STRIVING FOR. YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD PARKING FOR THAT ABSOLUTE PEAK BECAUSE THEN INEVITABLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE OVERBUILDING PARKING FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE YEAR. SO THE SO THE PREFERRED METHOD IS TO LOOK AT THE 20TH HIGHEST HOUR WHICH IS WHAT THIS CHART IDENTIFIES. SO I WANTED TO SUMMARIZE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING SUPPLY, IS THERE EXCESS PARK SUPPLY? WELL WHAT WHAT ARE WE REFERRING TO AND SO THERE'S IT'S EASY TO THROW AROUND A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS BUT THERE'S REALLY ONE TOTAL SUPPLY THAT AT LEAST IN MY VIEW IS WHAT WE WERE WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. SO WHEN WE THINK OF THE MALL CAMPUS AND INCLUDE THE SUPPLY THAT'S ON THE EAST LOT, THAT LARGE SURFACE LOT THAT'S EAST OF 25TH AVENUE, WELL THAT THAT IS ROUGHLY 16,400 SPACES IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MALL OF AMERICAN CAMPUS WE DO NOT INCLUDE THE EAST LOT AND IF WE DISCOUNT THE 907 STALLS THAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR A MOTIVE FOR PARKING, THEN THAT SUPPLY GOES DOWN TO 13,006 OR 25 WHEN WE ADD THE EAST LOT BACK IN IN TERMS OF SUPPLY BUT WE REDUCE THE SUPPLY BY 907 STALLS AGAIN THAT PIECE SEVEN LEVEL NUMBER WE'RE AT ROUGHLY 15,500 STALLS. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK THE NUMBER THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE CHARTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE REPORTS AND WHAT THE DEMAND IS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THAT 15,500 SPACES AND SO THAT THAT NUMBER THAT 15,500 SPACES IS THE TOP DASHED LINE ON THIS GRAPH AND ALL OF THE POINTS ARE THE PEAK PARKING DEMAND IS OR BY MONTH AND YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS WELL-DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORTS BUT OVERALL PARKING DEMAND HAS GONE DOWN SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE 2019. OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH PANDEMIC AND YOU CAN SEE THAT EXCEPT FOR SOME AN ANOMALY THE PEAK DEMAND HAS BEEN BELOW THAT PARKING SUPPLY UNIVERSALLY THE TOP DASHED LINE. SO IF WE WANT TO MAKE SOME VERY BROAD CONCLUSIONS IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE IS THE EXCESS SUPPLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FOR THE EAST RAMP. THAT SAID THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE VACANCIES THAT HAVE TO WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF OF HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE LESS VACANCIES IN THE FUTURE AS VACANT SPACES FIND NEW TENANTS BUT EXCEPT FOR BLACK FRIDAY THE STUDIES FOUND THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING SUPPLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROPOSED REMOTE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY. THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS IN A CONDITION THAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS THAT THE SYSTEM HAS TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT ANTICIPATED PEAK DEMAND AND REDUCE RESERVATIONS IN ADVANCE OF THAT PEAK. AS YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE PARKS CAR THERE, GO OUT OF TOWN, YOU KNOW IT'S BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THAT INDIVIDUAL CAR SO THAT TEND TO HAVE SOME ANTICIPATION THE MALL REPRESENTATIVES HAD A VERY SOPHISTICATED WAY TO MANAGE THAT. WE ARE PROPOSING A MORE GENERAL CONDITION NAMELY BECAUSE THE MALL HAS THE ABILITY TO PROGRAM THEIR APP SYSTEM THE RESERVATION SYSTEM TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT ANTICIPATE ANTICIPATED PEAK. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT NEW USERS IS OF COURSE SIGNAGE AND FOR FOLKS THAT ARE ACCUSTOMED TO GO IN THE MALL IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE. BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE MAYBE STRESSED OUT GOING TO THE AIRPORT IT CAN BE A CHALLENGING ENDEAVOR. SO MOST OF THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU SAW IN YOUR PACKET DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE PERMITS WHETHER IT'S OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S INSIDE THE MALL OR IF IT'S ALONG THE RING ROAD THAT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. ALL OF THOSE ALL THAT SIGNAGE IS EXEMPT FROM SIGN PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE SHOWING SOME SIGNAGE ON THAT P SEVEN LEVEL THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE AND WOULD REQUIRE PERMITS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON SCREEN IF YOU SEE THE THAT GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE RAMP ITSELF, YOU KNOW D AND E WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY SO A PERMIT IS NEEDED THERE AS WELL AS B OF NOT IF YOU'RE CLOSE BUT IF YOU'RE FAR AWAY LOOKING TO THREE BLOCKS AWAY YOU CAN SEE THAT SIGN TOO. SO THOSE ARE THAT THOSE ARE THE SIGNS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PERMITS AND SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED WE WILL BE REVIEWING THOSE PERMITS PART INSTALLATION. HERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF SIGNS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO NAVIGATING THE SITE AND GETTING PEOPLE TO WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO BE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACE MONUMENTS, THAT'S A VERY SIMPLE MODIFICATION AND THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE SITE PERMITS. NONETHELESS IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESSFUL OPERATION OF OF THIS FACILITY . THERE ARE OF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE MALL OF AGAIN ONE OF THE WAYS TO GET PEOPLE FROM THE MALL TO THE AIRPORT WOULD BE OF RIDESHARE. I LEARNED THIS MORNING THAT LYFT IS THE OFFICIAL RIDESHARE FOR THE MALL OF AMERICA. DIDN'T KNOW THAT. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO IMPROVEMENTS LIKE WITHIN THE ELEVATORS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY CORRECTED AN ISSUE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IT SAYS THAT THE TRANSIT STATION GO TO LEVEL ONE EAST. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. BUT ON THE RIGHT YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. THEY ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WANT TO GO TO THE SE LEVEL WHICH TAKES YOU DIRECTLY TO THE TRAIN STATION VERY, VERY CONVENIENT . ALSO LIGHTING WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE LIGHTING FOR SECURITY SO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND CURRENTLY UNLESS SOMETHING HAS CHANGED THE EXTRA LIGHTING IN THE EAST RAMP IS COMPLIANT. SO THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THAT'S RIGHT WHERE THAT RAMP IS GOING FROM LEVEL SIX UP TO LEVEL SEVEN VERY WELL LIT AND THEN ON P SEVEN ITSELF THERE ARE EXTENSIVE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE EXISTING TODAY IN OPERATION SO DID I ANTICIPATE ANYTHING NEEDED FROM THERE? SO WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. WE DID HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD IT WISH TO TAKE ACTION. THIS IS THE FINAL APPROVAL AUTHORITY SUBJECT TO APPEAL. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT COMMISSION OR PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR CUNNINGHAM I WOULD JUST NOTE ALSO THAT JULIE LONG AND KIRK ROBERTS ARE HERE FROM THE CITY'S ENGINEERING DIVISION. SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL AS THE CONSULTANT WHO PERFORMED THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC STUDY? PHIL COURSE WITH SRF IS ALSO ONLINE. SHOULD THEY BE NEEDED? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER WHITE? THANK YOU CHAIR. AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND APOLOGIES. I MEANT TO LOOK THIS UP BEFORE THE MEETING BUT THE DAY GOT AWAY FROM ME JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I KNOW WE JUST WENT THROUGH A HOW MANY SIGNS CAN YOU HAVE AT THE TOP OF YOUR MULTI STOREY BUILDING AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT NUMBER OF STORIES WAS REQUIRED BUT I SEE TWO SIGNS HERE FOR A SEVENTH LEVEL AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IT'S THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS FOR A BUILDING OF THAT TYPE. SO YEAH. ACTING CHAIR CUNNINGHAM AND COMMISSIONER WHITE SO SOME OF THESE SIGNS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE MALL STRUCTURE, SOME OF IT TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE ITSELF. AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE MALL IS IN A SIGN DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION OF ITS OWN AND SO IT HAS MORE ROBUST ALLOWANCES FOR SIGNAGE THAN A TYPICAL COMMERCIAL OR EVEN MIXED USE PROPERTY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD I WOULD ADD SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IN ORDER TO ISSUE A SIGN PERMIT. THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS FOR THE AREA ALLOWANCES BUT IT TO MR. JOHNSON'S POINT IT IS A MORE ROBUST PERMISSIVE DISTRICT JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE MALL BUT IT YOU KNOW DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH FUTURE TENANT SPACES THEY MIGHT RUN INTO THAT CAP. WELL WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE THAT YET WITH THIS PROPOSAL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER ISSA THANK YOU ACTING CHAIR. THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE OPERATOR BUT I JUST WANT THROW IT OUT THERE IS THERE DATA ON THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY OR FOR THE CARS THAT STAY OVERNIGHT ROUGHLY COMPARED TO NEARBY PARKING BUSINESSES? SOME ARE BUSINESSES. YEAH. COMMISSIONER YOU SAY THAT. GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER GIVEN OF YOU KNOW THEIR PREPARATION FOR THIS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND SEEING NONE IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD AND SPEAK NOW IS THE TIME HELPFUL UP HERE? HI. GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OH, THERE WE GO. MY NAME IS MEGAN ROGERS. I'M ATTORNEY WITH LARKIN HOFFMAN AND I REPRESENT ALL OF AMERICA. SO FIRST AND FOREMOST I JUST WANT TO THANK YOUR STAFF AND THIS HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT PROCESS THROUGH THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING MORATORIUM, THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AND THEN GETTING TO THE APPLICATION HERE TODAY IT'S WE'RE THE FIRST APPLICANT TO COME IN UNDER YOUR NEW ORDINANCE AND SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH HIM AND TO TO WORK OUT HOW THE ORDINANCE WORKS IN PRACTICE AND HOW THIS WILL WORK FOR THE MALL. AND I THINK THAT PLANNER CENTENARIO DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH HERE AND THEN OUTLINING THE FINDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. AND I WANT TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OPERATIONS FROM A GENERAL STANDPOINT. AND FIRST AND FOREMOST THE MALL ALWAYS SEEKS TO PROVIDE A BEST IN CLASS SERVICE AND THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE HOPE TO DO HERE. AND ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF YOUR ORDINANCE IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR ALL OTHER PEOPLE WHO NEED TO USE THE STRUCTURED PARKING WHEREVER THAT MAY BE AND FOR THE MALL WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR GUEST EXPERIENCE IS NOT IMPACTED ON BLACK FRIDAY OF THIS YEAR WE HAD 235,000 EXCUSE ME 235,000 GUESTS AND THERE WERE 300 STALLS USED ON P7E SO WE HAVE REALLY EXCELLENT DATA TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHEN PEOPLE NEED TO USE THAT PARKING FOR NON AIRPORT PARKING SERVICES AND AND WE ARE A NEW OPERATOR IN THIS FIELD AND SO COMMISSIONER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WE WE DON'T HAVE DATA ON TERMS OF HOW LONG PEOPLE WILL PARK THEIR CARS AT THIS FACILITY BUT GENERALLY THE AVERAGE THAT WE KNOW FROM THE DATA THAT'S PRODUCED BY BY MAC AND BY THE AIRPORT COMMISSION IS THAT PEOPLE TEND TO UTILIZE LONG TERM REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING BETWEEN 5 AND 7 DAYS AND WE HAVE THAT BUILT INTO OUR OVERALL OPERATIONS MODEL TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY. AND LASTLY I'LL SAY THAT THE MODEL THAT WE'RE PRESENTING HERE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS ALL MONITORED VERY CLOSELY AND IN TERMS OF THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE AND SAME LEVEL OF MONITORING THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PARK ASSIST SYSTEM FOR THE REST OF THE MALL SO WE KNOW HOW MANY CARS ARE COMING IN, HOW MANY SPACES ARE AVAILABLE AND HOW WE CAN PROJECT OUT FOR FUTURE USE AND FOR TO TAKE FUTURE RESERVATIONS. I AM HAPPY TO ADD WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ANY OF THE CONDITIONS THEY'VE BEEN PROPOSED BY STAFF AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR PROPOSAL THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. ROGERS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, COMMISSIONER YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR DO YOU THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION. I, I AND FOR ALL THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDE AS WELL. QUICK QUESTION HOW MUCH DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE PRICE COMPARED TO NEARBY PARKING FACILITIES THIS POOR STORE ESSENTIALLY IF IT WOULD BE YEAH SO IT WILL BE COMPETITIVE WITH THE OTHER FACILITIES AND THEN IT WILL OF COURSE BE DEMAND BASED AND YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF PARKING WITHIN OUR FACILITY IS THAT SOMEONE CAN GO DOWN, THEY CAN GO SHOPPING AT LAST MINUTE TRIP ITEMS, HAVE SOMETHING TO EAT, COME HAVE THEIR LUGGAGE STORED. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOW AVAILABLE AT THE MALL. COMMISSIONER, WHAT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT APPEALS TO ME ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL IS THE TIE TO PUBLIC TRANSIT AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO A LYFT OPTION. BUT I'M WONDERING IF IF YOU HAVE THOUGHT AT ALL ABOUT PROMOTING THE USE OF PUBLIC TRANSIT TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE ARE PARKING IN THE FACILITY? ABSOLUTELY. SO SO THAT WAS REALLY A CORE OF THIS PROPOSAL AND IT'S WHY WE PROPOSED IT FOR SEVEN YEARS IN PARTICULAR IS THAT DIRECT ACCESS TO TRANSIT. WE SEE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REINVIGORATE THE CONNECTION POINT BETWEEN THE MALL AND THE AIRPORT AND THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAMING AND THE OTHER AREA THAT WE SEE THIS AS A REALLY VALUE ADDITION FOR OUR LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM AS WELL IS THAT YOU KNOW, GUESTS MAY CHOOSE TO PARK AT THE MALL AND THEN TAKE THE LIGHT RAIL DOWNTOWN FOR A GAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. STAY OVERNIGHT DOWNTOWN AND COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO PICK UP THEIR CAR. SO WHILE THIS IS CLASSIFIED AS REMOTE AIRPORT OVERNIGHT PARKING HAS MANY OTHER USES AND WE CONSIDER ACCESSIBILITY TO LIGHT RAIL TO BE ONE OF THE REALLY SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS OF LOCATING AT THIS SITE. COMMISSIONER YOU SAID THANK YOU CHAIR ACTING CHAIR CUNNINGHAM. SO YOU MENTIONED THE KIOSKS. THE KIOSK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE HAPPY SIX RIGHT BELOW AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE P SEVEN LEVEL CORRECT THE ENTRANCE OF THE PIECE SO THAT SO I GUESS MY QUESTION THEN WOULD BE DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TO IMPACT SHOPPERS PARKING AT THE P SIX LEVEL IF THERE'S SOME OF IT SOMEWHAT OF A DEMAND OF AIRPORT PARKERS AT THE P SEVEN LEVEL? YEAH ABSOLUTELY. SO WE DO HAVE QUEUING FOR UP TO THREE CARS IN EACH ONE OF THE LANES SO THAT THERE IS CAPACITY THERE AS WELL AND THE OTHER FACTOR IS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING WITH THIS SYSTEM, THEY DO NOT NEED THEY CAN PAY YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S AVAILABILITY THEY CAN PAY AT THAT KIOSK, THEY CAN ALSO UTILIZE THEIR PHONE TO PAY ONLINE AND SIMPLY SCAN IN THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER MUNSTER SO I'M GOING TO EXCUSE ME I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING THAT I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD PROPOSAL. MY QUESTION IS HOW DOES THE MALL POLICE PEOPLE DOING THIS NOW LIKE IF I JUST WENT AND PARK THERE AND TOOK THE TRAIN TO THE AIRPORT, I'LL LET THE EXPERTS AT THE EXPERTS SPEAK TO THAT. BUT HISTORICALLY AND YOU KNOW, SINCE THE MALL'S CONSTRUCTION OVERNIGHT PARKING HAS NOT BEEN PERMITTED ON SITE IN ANY WAY. SO THERE HAS BEEN NO LONGER TERM PARKING EXCEPT FOR WITHIN THOSE HOTEL AREAS. BUT GOOD EVENING. I'M RICHARD GAMBLE, THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE MALL. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE THE WAY THAT WE PREVENT THIS TODAY IS THAT WE LOOK AT THE CARS AND THE PARKING RAMPS ON A NIGHTLY BASIS, OUR SECURITY YOU KNOW, TAKE A PEEK AT THEM AND THEN WE LOOK AT THEM AGAIN IF IF THEY'RE THERE THE NEXT DAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THAT. SO COMMISSIONER, YOU SIR I QUICK QUESTION. LET'S SAY I DON'T KNOW IS THE RADISSON BLU ON THE EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE THAT IT RESEMBLES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE? OKAY. LET'S SAY SOMEWHAT HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING RIGHT SOMEONE IS STAYING AT THE RADISSON BLU BUT IT'S CHEAPER TO PARK NOT AT THE RADISSON BLU AND AT THIS PARKING RAMP. HOW WOULD YOU MANAGE THAT? THEY'RE THEY'RE PARKED THERE OVERNIGHT BUT THEY'RE NOT OUT OF STATE. ALL RIGHT. WHY NOT? YEAH, I MEAN ANY GUESTS WHETHER THEY'RE STAYING AT THE RADISSON BLU THEY'RE STAYING AT THE J.W. MARRIOTT. THEY'RE BEING MALL GUESTS. TH'RE USING THIS AS PARKING. RIGHT. THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CHOICES ON WHERE THEY'RE PARKING. IT'S UP TO THE GUESTS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SO WE'RE NOT COULD PREVENT THEM FROM PARKING THERE IF THE STAY AT THE RADISSON BLU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU BOTH. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM PLEASE COME FORWARD. I MISSPOKE. >> DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON LINE? ACTING CHAIR CUNNINGHAM? THERE'S NO ONE ON LINE. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, MISS ASPECT THE ROLL PLEASE. CUNNINGHAM HI. YOU SAY I WAIT MONSTER SUMMERS ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. DISCUSS AN. COMMISSIONER WHAT I WOULD SAY I THINK IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. I THINK THIS IS YOU KNOW WHAT FOLKS HAD IN MIND WHEN WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS THIS KIND OF USE OF OVERFLOW OR EXTRA PARKING CAPACITY AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING NEW CAPACITY. I APPRECIATE THE THE WORK THAT'S GONE IN CLEAR WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THINKING THROUGH ALL OF THE THE INFORMATION. AS I SAID BEFORE, I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED TO SEE A FACILITY THAT WOULD PERHAPS BE A CLOSER TIE TO USING LIGHT RAIL TO GET TO THE AIRPORT AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE TRIP VEHICLES OR SHUTTLES OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I'LL SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. I EVENTUALLY WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED ON LABOR DAY OF 2019 FROM THAT SCATTERPLOT . OH, I'M SO SORRY COMMISSIONER SUMMERS, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP . THANK YOU. ACTING CHAIR I WAS LAUGHING BECAUSE I ALSO WAS THINKING YEAH, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE FOR ME. I AM IN A RETAIL ENVIRONMENT DAY TO DAY AND I REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FAITH THAT RETAIL BASED COMPANIES HAVE A LOT OF DATA. SO WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS APPLICATION I FELT LIKE THE DATA MADE CLEAR THE MALL OF AMERICA'S PLANS TO MANAGE AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN INKLING FOR ME ABOUT THE HAVING THE PRICE OF THE SERVICE BE SOMETHING THAT ON RETAIL DEMAND WHEN ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THIS PERMIT DEALS WITH A HIGH PEAK DEMAND DAY TT ALSO LINES UP WITH HOLIDAY TRAVEL BUT THAT FEELS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE LINE OF PLANNING COMMISSION. I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IN THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY STAFF IS REALLY COMPREHENSIVE AND LINES UP WITH THE FINDINGS THAT I NEED TO MAKE TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OTHERWISE I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION COMMISSIONER WHITE IN CASE NUMBER P.L. 202500202. HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING WITHIN THE MALL OF AMERICAN AMERICA AMERICA SO THAT RIGHT EAST PARKING RAMP LOCATED AT 8120 FOURTH AVENUE SOUTH. SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND BEFORE WE PROGRESS I JUST WANT TO CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TASK THAT THAT WAS READ PROPERLY. THE MALL OF AMERICA MALL OF AMERICA AND BACK AND FORTH INTENT. ALL RIGHT. LEGISLATIVE INTENT. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOU'RE I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOU WERE MENTIONING THERE. SO PERFECT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MISS ASPECT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? CUNNINGHAM I ISSA HI WHITE MONSTER I SUMMERS I THAT MOTION CARRIES FIVE ZERO THAT IS A FINAL DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNLESS AN APPEAL IS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY 4:30 P.M. ON JANUARY 27TH WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR AND CALL BACK OUR FEARLESS CHAIR . THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM WE WILL MOVE THEN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS A MAJOR REVISION TO FILE DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR PARKING FLEXIBILITY FOR RETAIL USE AT 8101 34TH AVENUE SOUTH. MR. CENTENARIO WAS BACK WITH ANOTHER STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU CHAIR CAPTAIN AND COMMISSIONERS WE WILL CONTINUE OUR FOCUS ON PARKING AT 81 OF 1/34 AVENUE SOUTH. THE THE FOCUS OF THIS APPLICATION AGAIN IS PARKING DEMAND AND HOW THAT DEMAND RELATES TO PARKING SUPPLY. THE CONTEXT IS VERY DIFFERENT AND I HOPEFULLY I'LL DO A DECENT JOB KIND OF EXPLAINING TO EXPLAIN THAT CONTEXT AND THE REASONS WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. AND SO HERE WE ARE AT 81 1/34 AVENUE SOUTH AND SO AGAIN WE'RE STILL IN THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT JUST EAST OF 34TH AVENUE AND THIS LOCATION IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW LIGHT RAIL IS THE BLUE LINE. THE BLUE LINE IS THE BLUE LINE AND 80 1A1 IS AN APPROXIMATELY 48,000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND IT SHARES ACCESS FROM 34TH AVENUE WITH THE RISER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH AND THEN YOU CAN SEE A SHARED PRIVATE STREET AMERICAN SQUARE TO THE NORTH AND THAT AND THAT PARKING SUPPLY THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IS A MIX OF SUPPLY THERE SURFACE STALLS WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THIS AERIAL IMAGE THERE ARE SOME COVERED STALLS THAT ARE BELOW THE SECOND LEVEL OF THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THEN THERE'S ALSO STRUCTURE PARKING THAT THIS SITE HAS ACCESS TO WITHIN THE RISER PARKING STRUCTURE. AND SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT THE COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW A RETAIL TENANT TO OCCUPY SPACE WITHIN 81 TO 1. AND YOU KNOW THE INTENT AS TO EXCUSE ME IS FOR THAT RETAIL TENANT TO BE A CANNABIS DISPENSARY. HOWEVER, I WANT TO STRESS THAT FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE THE LAND USE IS RETAIL SO WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE CATEGORY FOR CANNABIS OR WE DON'T HAVE CERTAIN IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT IS A IS WHAT'S CALLED A PERMITTED LIMITED USE AND THAT'S A FANCY WAY OF DESCRIBING A USE THAT IS LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN 25% OF THE BUILDING FLOOR AREA. SO THE RETAIL USE HERE IS A PERMITTED LIMITED USE BUT BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PARKING IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY FROM THE CITY. AND SO I HAVE A FEW IMAGES OF EXISTING CONDITIONS. SO IN THIS CASE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT AND WE HAVE I CAN SEE IT'S A TOTAL OF FOUR LEVEL OFFICE BUILDING. THE MAIN ENTRANCES ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THE ACCESS FROM FROM THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM 34TH AVENUE SOUTH AND AGAIN THERE'S A MIX OF PARKING SUPPLY HERE. THERE'S A SURFACE PARKING THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STALLS BELOW THE SECOND LEVEL THE BUILDING AND THEN THERE'S 37 I BELIEVE IT'S 37 STALLS WITHIN THE RISER DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU MIGHT ASK YOURSELF WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING HOW DO THEY GET ACCESS TO 37 STALLS WITHIN A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT BUILDING AND BEFORE THE RISE OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED, THE APPLICANT OR THE OWNER OF THIS BUILDING OWNED PARKING WHERE THE RISER NOW SITS. AND SO THAT WAS A NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT PROPERTY OWNER TONIGHT. SO HERE'S A GRAPHIC THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PARKING STUDY THAT WAS INCLUDED THE PACKET AND AGAIN 37 STALLS ARE WITHIN THE RISER PARKING STRUCTURE. THERE ARE SOME SHARED COMPONENT WHICH IS IN GREEN AND THEN THERE'S SOME PARKING THAT'S INTENDED SOLELY FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING AND THAT'S IN YELLOW AS YOU CAN IMAGINE WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING AND GUEST APARTMENTS DELIVERIES YOU KNOW THEY NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. THEY NEED A PLACE TO PARK AND SO THEY DO HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF DESIGNATED PARKING. AND SO WHAT'S ON SCREEN NOW IS A FLOOR PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED RETAIL TENANT AND IN TOTAL THE FLOOR AREA IS ABOUT 70 600FT . THAT THAT AREA IS MISLEADING. I WANT TO FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION TO THE OF THE GREEN ELEMENTS ON THIS GRAPHIC SO YOU HAVE YOUR CUSTOMER ENTRY THERE IS A SECURITY AREA RETAIL PACKAGING AND THEN A STORAGE AREA. I'M NOT SURE HOW THE THIS SPACE WAS UTILIZED BEFORE BUT AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT WAS A BANK AND SO IF YOU GO IN THAT COVERED BUILDING YOU CAN SEE THE THE BANK DRIVE THROUGH AND THERE'S YOU KNOW THE TELLER WINDOW AND ALL OF THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE BANK IS NOT OPERATING ANYMORE BUT IF WE IF WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND THINK WELL WHAT IS THE ACTUAL RETAIL USE WITHIN THIS SPACE IS IT'S MUCH CLOSER ABOUT 2500FT IF WE ADD UP THE RETAIL SECURITY COSTS OF ENTRY PACKAGING AND THEN A COMPONENT OF THE STORAGE THIS WHOLE SPACE IS 70 600FT AND THAT'S WHAT WAS USED TO STUDY PARKING DEMAND. BUT THE ACTUAL RETAIL USE IS A MUCH SMALLER COMPONENT AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL WAS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WANTED TO RETROFIT THIS SPACE WITHIN THE BUILDING THEY WANTED TO KIND OF KEEP IT INTACT AS IT IS WHICH THEN LED TO A MUCH LARGER SPACE THAN WHAT WAS FRANKLY NECESSARY FOR THIS USER. WE ALWAYS WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THESE PROPOSALS WE ALWAYS GO WE WE START WITH THE CODE THE BASELINE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE OFFICE WHICH IS ABOUT 40,000FT. THEN WE HAVE AGAIN IN IN ACTUALITY IT'S NOT 70 600FT BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE PROPOSAL AND WE HAVE A TOTAL PARKING REQUIREMENT OF 184. THE PARKING PROVIDED IS 138 AND IF YOU'RE WE'RE READING THE STUDY VERY CAREFULLY YOU WOULD SAY WAIT A SECOND, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PARKING SUPPLY IN THE STUDY AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT THAT'S A 25% DEVIATION OR REDUCTION FROM CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS RETAIL SPACE . AND YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY WE DON'T SEE THE DEVIATIONS THAT HIGH IF THERE WERE TO BE A LOCATION WHERE WE WOULD SEE A DEVIATION THAT HIGH IT WOULD BE IN SOUTH LOOP WHERE WE HAVE THAT ACCESS TO TRANSIT. BUT GOING BACK TO THAT FIVE STALLS YOU KNOW THERE WAS SOME STRIPING THAT WAS DONE ON SITE THAT DOESN'T MEET CITY DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND SO THERE'S THAT DRIVE THRU LANE FROM WHEN THERE WAS A BANK AND AT SOME POINT THERE WERE TEN STALLS THAT WERE STRIPED WITHIN THAT SPACE BUT THEY'RE NOT SIZED APPROPRIATELY. THEY'RE NOT A WIDE ENOUGH FOR A STALL AND IF CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT LANE I THINK A LOT OF VEHICLES WILL FIND IT DIFFICULT TO GET THROUGH. SO IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL SUPPLY WE REMOVED FIVE SPACES BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE TO MEET THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS YOU CAN ONLY HAVE IT ON ONE SIDE. SO GOING TO THE STUDY ITSELF AND YOU KNOW THIS THIS REALLY UPS THE ANTE IN TERMS OF COMPLEXITY BUT THE STUDY LOOKED AT PEAK DEMAND FOR AREA CANNABIS DISPENSARIES MEASURED WHAT THAT DEMAND WAS PER 1000FT OF FLOOR AREA AND THEN ESSENTIALLY EXTRAPOLATED THAT TO THE PROPOSED USE USING THAT CALCULATIONS AT A WHEN YOU APPLY THAT NUMBER TO A 70 600 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL DISPENSARY YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE DEMAND OF 42 SPACES WHICH IS REALLY HIGH AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE 85TH PERCENTILE 90 SPACES SO WHEN WE HAVE THAT SORT OF DEMAND THAT WOULD CREATE AN ISSUE LIKE A REAL LEGITIMATE ISSUE FOR PARKING WITHIN THIS WITHIN THE SITE. HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CONTEXT AND REALIZE THAT THE DISPENSARY WOULD REALLY ONLY OCCUPY ABOUT 20 500FT OF SPACE FOR RETAIL, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS WE DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOME SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY HERE AND THERE WOULD BE ADEQUATE ADEQUATE SUPPLY. SO I'LL TOUCH ON THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. FIRST OFF, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY ON THE RIGHT ALONG THE BLUE LINE AND SO PRESUMABLY SOME CUSTOMERS OR EMPLOYEES WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT AS OPPOSED TO NEED TO PUT A VEHICLE IN A STALL THAT WOULD PRESUMABLY REDUCE THE PARKING DEMAND TO SOME DEGREE ALTHOUGH IT'S HARD TO APPLY A PARTICULAR QUANTITY OR PERCENTAGE REDUCTION WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT PLAN THERE ARE GENERAL POLICY TO SUPPORT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT HAVING RETAIL ON WITHIN OFFICE BUILDINGS, CERTAINLY HAVING A RETAIL TENANT WITHIN AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY VACANT THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THAT. THIRD, THE CITY CITY STAFF AND AS ON THE 2026 WORK PLAN IS ANALYZING WHAT OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE AND WE FELT AND I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGREE THAT THE ACTUAL RATIOS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR DIFFERENT LAND USES ARE OVERLY CONSERVATIVE AND I THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING SOME MODEST REDUCTIONS TO THOSE RATIOS WHICH BRINGS DOWN THE REQUIREMENT FOR VARIOUS LAND USES WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPENED AND WHAT IS HISTORICALLY HAPPENED IS OVERBUILDING PARKING LOTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS RATIO THAT'S ADOPTED IN CITY CODE WHEN IN REALITY WE SEE MOSTLY VACANT PARKING LOTS MOST OF THE TIME AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE 2026 WORK PLAN TO THE CONSIDER ANOTHER CONSIDERATION IS BUILDING REDUCE PARKING FLEXIBILITY THERE THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE IN CITY CODE TODAY FOR BUILDING REUSE TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT UP TO 25% FOR A PARTICULAR TENANT. UNFORTUNATELY THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONLY ENTITY THAT CAN APPROVE SHARED USE PARKING ARRANGEMENTS AND SO IT AUTOMATICALLY KICKED THE REVIEW AUTHORITY TO CITY COUNCIL. ANOTHER ELEMENT IS OFFICE CONVERSION STUDY WHERE WE PROBABLY ALL HEARD OF DIFFICULTY IN FILLING OFFICE SPACE BETWEEN WORK FROM HOME JUST THE NEW REALITY AND GENERALLY SPEAKING THE CITY HAS WANTED TO BE FLEXIBLE IN ALLOWING OTHER USES WITHIN OFFICE SPACES THAT ARE UNDERUTILIZED. AND LASTLY AS I'VE MENTIONED THE TENANT SPACE FLOOR AREA THE MATH THAT WAS DONE IN THE STUDY IS CORRECT. THEY USE 76FT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY . BUT WE DO THINK THE REALITY IS THAT THE THE PARKING DEMAND THAT WE WOULD SEE HERE IF THE IS APPROVED IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN WHAT'S IDENTIFIED. SOME OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TOO FOR THE COMMISSION IS WHEN WE HAVE CHANGES OF USE, WE HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE BROUGHT INTO PLAY OR CONFORMANCE TRIGGERS. ONE OF THOSE ARE SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS CURRENTLY OR WHEN THIS BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY AND SIDEWALKS REALLY WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS TOP OF MIND. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO CONSIDER AND THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A RETAIL USE WE CAN AGAIN PRESUME THAT PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE BUT THERE'S NO SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND THE BUILDING ENTRANCE. AND SO WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BEFORE THE DISPENSARY COULD OPEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A SIDEWALK CONNECTION AND THIS IS JUST VERY BASIC WHAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO ACCOMMODATE A SIDEWALK BECAUSE THERE IS A CURB RAMP ON THE ON THE WELL IT'S ACTUALLY NORTH WE SEE MY CURSOR THERE'S A CURB RAMP HERE. THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO PEDESTRIAN LIGHT PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED LIGHT POLES AND IT'S A IT'S A JUST A GOOD CONNECTION SIDEWALK CONNECTION DUE TO IF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE THERE'S ACTUALLY A FAIR AMOUNT OF GRADE BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THAT DRIVEWAY TO THE NORTH AND I THINK THAT WAS INTENTIONAL TO DIRECT DRAINAGE IN ACCOMMODATING A SIDEWALK THERE WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH, THE BUILDING, IT BECOMES VERY TRICKY TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. PLUS YOU'RE HAVING ACROSS A LOT MORE PARKING AREAS. SO THIS IS JUST AN IDEA. NONETHELESS IT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK CONNECTION ALTHOUGH THERE HAS BEEN SOME REFERENCES TO LIGHTING. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT LIGHTING AND A CHANGE OF USE. DOES BRING IN LIGHTING COMPLIANCE. THIS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE EASIER. THERE ARE LIGHTING POLES ON SITE BUT SHOULD THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE APPROVED THERE PROBABLY HAVE TO BE SOME RETROFITS. THERE'S ONE LIGHT POLE IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ENTRANCE BUT IT DOESN'T ILLUMINATE AS MUCH PARKING AS WOULD IT WOULD NEED TO SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME WORK DONE ON IMPROVING THE LIGHT LIGHTING LEVELS OF THAT OF THOSE PARKING STALLS AND THEN ALSO WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER LIGHTING IF THERE IS LIGHTING UNDERNEATH THAT CANOPY THAT THAT MEETS THE MINIMUM LIGHTING AT ENTRANCES OBVIOUSLY SECURITY WAS A CONCERN. WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT SECURITY AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS IS TO ENSURE THAT THESE SPACES ARE WELL-LIT. AND SO WITH THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SEVERAL CONDITIONS AND THOSE ARE ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FORWARDED ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU MR. SIMPSON. ARIEL WE'LL BEGIN WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. MR. WHITE THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO CLARIFY THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS THE REQUEST SUBMITTED WAS FOR 70 600FT SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND AS YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION THIS IS THE CLIENT THERE THAT THE TENANT THAT THEY EXPECT TO GO IN THERE CURRENTLY WOULD ONLY BE USING A PORTION OF IT FOR RETAIL. BUT IF WE DO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RETAIL WE ARE APPROVING IT FOR ALL 7600 SPACE. SO SQUARE FEET SO LATER A DIFFERENT TENANT OR A CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCE AS IT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE FOR THEM TO EXPAND BEYOND THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION. >> IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD DRAW THAT CONCLUSION BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND SO THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD POINT TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE PROPOSALS THAT ARE SEEKING FLEXIBILITY IN SOME WAY WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHAT IS BEING APPROVED IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPOSAL. AND SO WHILE THIS TENANT SPACE IS FOR 76FT, THE RETAIL COMPONENTS ARE WHAT'S IDENTIFIED ON THIS PLAN. AND SO IF THE DISPENSARY FELL THROUGH BUT THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO OPERATE RETAIL A DIFFERENT RETAILER COULD HYPOTHETICALLY OCCUPY THAT SPACE. IT COULD BE A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A SALON OR SOME OTHER RETAIL SERVICE AND THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE RETAIL SPACES THAT ARE ON THIS FLOOR PLAN. SO IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION VERY REALLY GETTING INTO THE ZONING WEEDS AND SOME OF THOSE MR. SENSITIVITIES TO CLARIFY THE APPLICATION BEFORE US THIS EVENING IS IS IT RELATED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR IS IT JUST FOR THE PARKING FLEXIBILITY? A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER. SO IN THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS NOT REQUIRED. SO IF YOU GO BACK TO ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES RETAIL AS A USE IS PERMITTED LIMITED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND SO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ARE NOT DO NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE. SO REALLY THE FOCUS IS PARKING THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE KEY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SFF COMMISSIONER MUNSTER. SO I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER THAT YOU GAVE TO COMMISSIONER WHITE ON ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS BEING APPROVED WOULD LOCK THEM INTO THIS FLOOR PLAN. BUT WE ARE SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED NONETHELESS ACCOUNTING FOR 70 600FT OF RETAIL, CORRECT? COMMISSIONERS YEAH, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THAT'S VERY CONFUSING AND I THINK THE CONFUSION IS FROM THE FACT THAT THIS ENTIRE TENANT SPACE IS 70 600FT AND THE LICENSE TO SELL CANNABIS PROBABLY WOULD APPLY TO THE FLOOR AREA THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE OCM IN TERMS OF HOW WE APPROACH LAND USE APPROVALS AND THE RECOMMENDED CONDITION THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT IS THAT THE RETAIL THE RETAIL USE IS LIMITED TO THE RETAIL USE THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE APPLICATION AND THAT'S WHAT'S ON SCREEN TODAY. SO IF I COULD ASK THAT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY THAN IF THREE YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN AND SAYS I WANT TO GUT THIS PLACE, MAKE IT A 70 600 SQUARE FOOT TRULY RETAIL CONVENIENCE STORE WHATEVER WHAT HAS TO BE DONE? COMMISSIONERS IF THAT HAPPENS AND IT IS 1% RETAIL WILL BE HAVING A VERY SIMILAR DISCUSSION AND THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH YOU TONIGHT IS IS THERE ENOUGH PARKING BECAUSE FROM THE LAND USE FROM STRICTLY ZONING PERSPECTIVE THE SAME THE SAME RULES APPLY BUT WE THINK THE OF THE ACTUAL DEMAND FOR A TRUE 70 600 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE PROBABLY GOING TO CREATE A PARKING PROBLEM AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO EVALUATE VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S JUST ONLY SO MUCH SUPPLY IN THIS LITTLE CORNER OF BLOOMINGTON AND LAST ONE I PROMISE. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS UNDERSTANDING WHO'S WATCHING US, IT WOULD COME BACK IF THIS IS NOT SOME SORT OF CARTE BLANCHE APPROVAL THAT WE WOULD BE GRANTING TONIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH SOME PROCESS. COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. HOWEVER, THERE'S ALWAYS THERE'S ALWAYS A IT DEPENDS THERE COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE THE PARKING STANDARDS CHANGE SO DRAMATICALLY THAT IT NO LONGER NEEDS A DEVIATION AND IT'S HARD I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THE REALITY WOULD BE BUT UNDER THE CURRENT PARKING RATIOS THAT WE HAVE IN CODE IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CHAIR COMMISSIONERS IF I MIGHT I WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING UP SOME OF THE CANNABIS RULES AND STUFF AND FOR RETAIL CANNABIS YOU HAVE PART OF THEIR LICENSURE IS TO ESTABLISH THE RETAIL AREA THAT'S OPEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE 21 AND OLDER RESTRICTED ACCESS IN ALL THE OTHER AREAS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN'T GO. SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT ON THEIR LICENSE WHEN THEY GET THE LICENSE THE AREAS THAT ARE OPEN AND AREAS THAT AREN'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SECURED AREA. THEN THERE'S A HOST OF ALL THE THESE YOU KNOW, PLANS FOR SECURITY LIGHTING, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET A LICENSE THROUGH THE STATE. THEY'D ALSO HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. SO THERE'S KIND OF A COUPLE OF TOUCH POINTS WITH REGULATION JUST TO SAY THAT ALL THOSE THINGS THE WHOLE AREA IS NOT GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR RETAIL KIND OF WHAT MR. CENTENARIO WAS SAYING HERE. SO JUST TO ADD SOME COLOR TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING MR. SCENARIO AS IT RELATES TO PARKING IS THE APPLICANT OR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ALLOWED TO STORE SNOW IN THEIR PARKING STALLS OR IS THAT PRECLUDED COMMISSIONERS YOU KNOW GENERALLY THE PARKING SUPPLY THAT'S ON A SITE NEEDS TO REMAIN PARKING SUPPLY THE DAY TO DAY REALITY IS THAT OFTENTIMES IN THE WINTER SOME OF THAT THOSE STALLS ARE LOST TO SNOW PILES WHEN WE HAVE MORE URBAN AREAS LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE HIGHER INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, IT'S HARDER IT'S HARDER TO FIND THOSE AREAS FOR SNOW AND IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA WORK TO LOCATE THE SNOW PILES AND AREAS THAT ARE NOT PARKING STALLS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, THOSE THE CITY CODE DOES NOT HAVE AN ALLOWANCE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF STALLS TO BE REMOVED FOR STOCKPILES. SO IT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION OF THE CITY THAT THEY CANNOT BE STORING SNOW IN THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S CORRECT. SURE. THANK YOU. AND ULTIMATELY IF THERE'S THERE ARE HEAVY SNOWFALLS, IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAYBE HOLD THAT SNOW . NO ONE WANTS TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S COSTLY BUT ULTIMATELY IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEEING NONE FOR NOW. THANK YOU MR. SENSATORI YOU I WILL ASK IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SADE BARRINGTON. I'VE BEEN OWNER OF THE BUILDING SINCE 2013 AND I DO AGREE WITH ALL THE FINDING OF THE STAFF AND AND NO OBJECTION TO THAT AT ALL AND I DO ACCEPT ALL THE PROPOSED CONDITION THAT I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, OBLIGATE TO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO MENTION REGARDS TO WHAT MIKE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT. ONE OF THE THING IS THAT WE DO MOVE HOUSE SNOWS LIKE LAST YEAR. I DO DO THAT ANYWAYS BECAUSE OF MY TENANTS. I DO HAUL THIS SNOW AND RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOISE HAULED UNDER THE BUILDING RIGHT UNDER IF YOU DON'T SEE IT HERE AND THERE'S NO PARKING THERE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU ASKED THE QUESTION IF THIS ARE THREE YEARS, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WELL, THE LEASES FOR OCM IS TEN YEARS ONLY. THEY CANNOT MOVE. IF THEY MOVE THEY HAVE TO GET A LICENSE AGAIN FROM OCA. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T MOVE AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABO IS THAT INITIALLY WE SUBMITTED 70 600 SQUARE FOOT BUT THE FLOOR PLAN FOR A RETAIL IS REALLY 1400 NOT EVEN 2500 BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AND WE ACTUALLY DREW THE BUILDING B THROUGH THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE TENANT AND TENANT IS ACTUALLY HERE CODY AND AND THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING YOU GUYS NOTICED THAT THE PARKING THAT WE WAS NOT EXACTLY THE SIZE OF A PARKING STALLS SHOULD BE WHILE THOSE ARE NOT PART OF THE UNDER 38 I JUST THROUGH THOSE FOR MYSELF FOR MY STAFF MY EYE MY OFFICE USED TO BE AN OTHER QUESTION SOMEBODY SAID WHO WAS ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT WAS MY OFFICE FOR MY EMPLOYEES AND WE HAD 65 PEOPLE THERE ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEN I SOLD A PORTION OF MY MY MY BUSINESS AND I MOVED THE SECOND PORTION TO THE THIRD FLOOR. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT. SO THAT WAS THE OFFICE AND IT'S A TEN YEAR LEASE AND THE PARKING WAS INCORRECT. THOSE ARE ALL MY AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS AND MIKE ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING WITH ME LAST FOR MY FIVE MONTHS TO GET TO THIS POINT AND I DO HAVE MY I ALSO MY ATTORNEY HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER, HOPEFULLY I CAN AND ALSO THE TENANT IS HERE. GREAT. THANK YOU MR. RENT YOU ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE RESA I THANK YOU AND THANK YOU CHAIR I SO WHEN YOU SUBMIT TO THE O C AND DID YOU IS IT THE 1400 THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS AS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE HIGHER AMOUNT SO THE OCM DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON TECHNICALLY YOUR RETAIL FLOOR SPACE I WISH IT WAS SMALLER BUT WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON RENTING IN THE WHOLE BUILDING SO PRETTY MUCH HOW IT WORKS IS WE HAVE TO GET THE BUILDING REMODELED AND THEN WE SUBMIT OUR PLAN TO THE OLD C M FOR FINAL APPROVAL. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE SECURITY YOUR SOPS FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES, YOUR TRAINING. IT'S A REALLY INTENSIVE APPLICATION TO GO THROUGH AND TO GET SUBMITTED. THANK YOU. SO IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE REMODELED FIRST. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ALSO THEY WOULD NOT GET THEIR FINAL LICENSE UNTIL THE FLOOR PLAN IS INSPECTED BY OCA YET FULLY FULLY INSPECTED? YEP. INSPECTED. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT CAN WE GET YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? JIM MY NAME IS MICHAEL KLEM WITH THE HAMILTON JOHNSON LAW FIRM. THANK YOU. AND YOU AS WELL CODY JR ZACH WITH NORTHERN DISPENSARY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IF YOU THREE COULD SIGN IN ON THE SHEET THERE FOR US WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT WE MAY HAVE A LATE QUESTION HERE FROM COMMISSIONER SUMMERS. THANK YOU CHAIR. I AM WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT IF YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN BE IN YOUR RETAIL SPACE? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE OCM DOES NOT DICTATE LIKE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COULD BE IN THE SPACE AT ONE TIME. BUT NO THERE IS AND IT'S MORE OF A SAFETY THING BASED ON THE OCCUPANCY LOAD FROM THE SIZE OF THE RETAIL SPACE THAT WE ALLOW IN. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT OFFHAND I APOLOGIZE BUT USUALLY GET ABOUT 1010 TO 15 PEOPLE AN HOUR. THAT'S USUALLY ON BUSY TIMES AND THOSE BUSY TIMES ARE USUALLY BETWEEN 3 AND 7:00 PM ON THE WEEKENDS THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE AS MOST RETAIL AREAS FOR CANNABIS OR UNDER 700FT. THIS IS JUST A BIG LARGE BUILDING SO WE DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY ISSUES WITH SPACE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? IF NONE I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ACTUALLY THAT'S MY MISTAKE. MR. CUNNINGHAM WE WE HAD BETTER DO THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE CLOSE IT. THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT. YOU CAN TAKE A SEAT AND APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE THE TIME AGAIN, MY MISTAKE. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM . I HAVE A QUESTION THAT THAT'S UNRELATED TO THIS. IS THIS RIGHT? IS THAT ALL RIGHT THAT TO SAY SOMETHING IT'S ABOUT PARKING IF IT'S RELATED TO THE APPLICATION YES. YOU ARE WELCOME TO TESTIFY. OH, IT'S NOT SORRY. IT'S JUST THE PARKING IN GENERAL. WELL IF IT'S NOT THAT'S THAT'S ALL RIGHT. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT. MY PLEASURE. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE 2026 PARKING THEY'RE GOING TO REDO REEVALUATE THE PARKING RATIOS . OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS ABOUT THAT. WE CAN GET YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE CITY STAFF MEMBER. I'LL TAKE THAT OFFLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY TO THIS ITEM CHAIR COOKED IN? THERE IS NO ONE ONLINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SPEAKER. I'LL ASK AGAIN IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM . SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD. I WILL NOW LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING SO MOVED FOR A SECOND SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING MR. THE ROLL CAPTAIN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WAIT MONSTER I SOMMER'S I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO AND WE WILL MOVE TO DISCUSSION I THINK I'LL GET STARTED HERE I READ THIS ENTIRE STAFF REPORT TWICE THIS WEEK BECAUSE IT'S A LOT TO GET YOUR HEAD AROUND AND THERE'S ALSO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A PARTICULARLY BLACK AND WHITE THING WE'RE ASKING FOR A ROUGHLY 25% REDUCTION IN THE PARKING AND THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO WHETHER THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS APPLICATION OR NOT. THERE CERTAINLY ARE SOME THINGS THAT WORK IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING A PARKING REDUCTION. EXCELLENT ACCESS TO TRANSIT IN THIS LOCATION. YOU REALLY COULDN'T ASK FOR ANY BETTER. SO THAT'S NOT ONLY FOR CUSTOMERS OF THE BUSINESS BUT ALSO EMPLOYEES WHO WE HOPE USE PUBLIC TRANSIT. THE TENANT FLOOR PLAN THING WHICH WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH I THINK THAT'S REAL. YOU KNOW LOOK, OTHER BUSINESSES ALSO HAVE BACK OF HOUSE AREAS SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD QUITE AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT. I WAS ONLY 1400 WHILE OTHER CAMPUS SHOPS ALSO NEED US TO HAVE A LOUNGE AND SOME OTHER THINGS. SO I'M NOT SURE I QUITE BY THE FACT THAT IF WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN BUT I DO THINK IT'S A REAL THING THAT THIS IS NOT A 76 SQUARE A 70 600 SQUARE FOOT BUSINESS. I, I BUY INTO THAT AND ALSO I THINK THE SOUTH LOOP DISTRICT PLAN GUIDANCE IS MEANINGFUL HERE THIS IS INTENDED TO BE BLOOMINGTON'S MOST URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SOUTH THROUGH DISTRICT PLAN CALLS FOR US TO BE CREATIVE AND REALLY ASSESS PARKING BEFORE WE WE ENCOURAGE THE THE CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL PARKING AND I THINK THAT'S REAL HERE THAT WE WANT THIS TO BE AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T WANT TO SEE US OVERBUILDING PARKING HERE AND SO I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF US TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE CREATIVE OR NOT. THE OTHER THING WITH THIS IS I THINK THERE'S A REAL PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ADDING RETAIL TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS STARVING FOR RETAIL. I PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT AND I'VE SAID THIS UP HERE A MILLION TIMES THAT THE THING WORKING AGAINST THE SOUTH LOOP IS THAT IT'S NOT A DRIVE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD. IT YOU ONLY INTEND TO GO TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU MEANT TO HOW OFTEN ARE PEOPLE IN SOUTH LOOP UNLESS THEY MEANT TO GO THERE AND I THINK THAT WILL ALWAYS HURT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT LIKE 90TH AND LYNDALE WHERE I FIND MYSELF DRIVING THROUGH THERE TWICE A WEEK AT LEAST. SO I WILL DRIVE THROUGH THERE ON MY WAY HOME TONIGHT. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC AND SO I THINK THE CITY NEEDS RETAIL IN HERE AND I THINK IT NEEDS I THINK WE NEED DESTINATION RETAIL, SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET PEOPLE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN THEY SEE JESUS IS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A GREAT COFFEE SHOP HERE. THERE IS A NEW GROCERY STORE. I COULD STOP BY ON MY WAY HOME TOO. AND SO THE MORE RETAIL WE CAN GET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD I THINK IS AN ENORMOUS BENEFIT TO THE SOUTH LOOP AND TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THIS AND SO I ALSO DON'T THINK WE CAN JUST TURN A BLIND EYE TO YOU KNOW, JUST JUST DO IT JUST DO IT. WE WE WE WE CAN'T JUST DO IT. THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING WITHIN REASON THAT WE CAN SUPPORT AS FAR AS PARKING REDUCTIONS GO, I THINK WITH ALL THE FACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT BEFORE US I CAN GET THERE A 25% THAT'S REALLY I THINK THE HIGHEST END OF SOMETHING I WOULD GO FOR BUT I DO THINK I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT AGAIN WITH THE WITH THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF HAVING RETAIL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT WITH THE SOUTH OF DISTRICT PLAN ENCOURAGING US TO FIND WAYS TO BE CREATIVE WITH PARKING. I THINK THEY ALL WORK IN FAVOR OF SAYING ALL RIGHT THIS IS A PRETTY BIG REDUCTION WE CAN'T JUST DO WHATEVER WE WANT BUT I THINK I CAN GET THERE AT 25%. SO WITH ALL OF THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION . COMMISSIONER MOSER AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN ,THAT WITH IT BEING ON THE WORK PLAN FOR THIS YEAR TO LOOK AT PARKING RATIOS AND IN RECOGNITION OF THE FACT THAT AS A AS A GENERAL STATEMENT A LOT OF THE EXISTING PARKING RATIOS ARE MEANT FOR AN AUTO ORIENTED ENVIRONMENT AND THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THIS AREA BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO BE A MORE URBAN AND WALKABLE COMMUNITY THAT AGAIN 25% I WOULD AGREE IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE HIGHEST THAT I'D BE COMFORTABLE APPROVING. BUT SOMEWHERE IN MY MIND I'M ALSO THINKING THAT IT'S NOT A 25% REDUCTION IF WE LOOK AT THE SAME MATH AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU. ONE THING I WANT TO ADD YOU KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT AUTO ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT VERSUS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. YEAH, THE AREA I MEAN I THINK ONE THING WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED AND THAT I I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU BOTH I'LL START BY SAYING THAT A RETAIL SHOP OF THIS SIZE AND SELLING THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS PROBABLY MOST AKIN TO THE AMOUNT OF TIME A PERSON SPENDS ON SAY A SMALLER LIQUOR STORE. IT'S NOT A TARGET. YOU'RE NOT IN THERE FOR AN HOUR WALKING THE AISLES. IT'S A FASTER SERVICE RETAIL AND SO THAT'S WHY I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE REDUCTION IN THIS CASE ON NOT ALL RETAIL IS THE SAME AND SO I THINK THAT THE PARKING PROBLEM AND AND I AGREE WITH YOU CHAIR COOKED IN THAT 25% IS PROBABLY ISN'T THAT MUCH DOWN AS I'D WANT TO GO ESPECIALLY IN A TIGHTER PARKS NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I, I THINK THAT THIS RETAIL APPLICATION OR THIS THIS SPECIFIC TYPE OF RETAILER IS A GOOD FIT FOR A PARKING REDUCTION. THANKS. THANK YOU. FISHERIES DEPUTY CHAIR YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH YOUR MAIN POINTS I COOKED IN AND THE POINT YOU HAD AS WELL COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM AND I WILL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT OF THIS SO I WELCOME TO TENET TO SAVE BLOOMINGTON IF IT PASSES AND YEAH THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM IN CASE PL202500203 HAVING BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS I MOVED TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A MAJOR REVISION TO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AT 810 1/34 AVENUE SOUTH TO ALLOW FOR RETAIL TENANTS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND CODE REQUIREMENTS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE A MAJOR REVISION TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANTS AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING BEFORE WE WE CALL THE ROLL HERE. WE GOT MORE THAN A COUPLE OF PIECES OF PUBLIC CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS IN OUR INBOXES AND I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE WONDER IF THEY EMAILED THEIR CITY REPRESENTATIVES AND IT GOES INTO THIN AIR AND I CAN TELL THOSE PEOPLE IT DID NOT GO INTO THIN AIR. I READ ALL OF THEM I TRUST MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ALSO READ ALL OF THEM AND THEY WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY ARE HEARD BY THEIR COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL AS FAR AS THIS BODY GOES, YOU CAN FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU WERE HEARD ON THIS APPLICATION. WE ARE READY TO CALL THE ROLL COMMISSIONER HAS OR MRS. BURKE COOKED IN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WHITE MONSTER I SUMMERS I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT WILL BE ON THEIR AGENDA FOR FINAL APPROVAL ON FEBRUARY 2ND 2026 WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE APPLICANT SO APPLICATION REGARDS CITY CODE AMENDMENT FOR THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ORDINANCE PHASE TWO MR. DAKOTA CASSIDY IS HERE WITH THE STAFF REPORT. GREAT. GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONGER AGENDA AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LONGER ORDINANCE. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AS WE GET THROUGH THIS LAST ITEM AND PUBLIC HEARING HERE. SO I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ORDINANCE. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCALE AND FORM OF HOUSING KIND OF IN THIS SPECTRUM THAT'S LAID OUT HERE ON THE SCREEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OR IN BETWEEN A DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND A LARGER APARTMENT COMPLEX OR MID-RISE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OFTEN REFERRED TO AS MISSING BECAUSE THERE'S JUST AN UNDERSIZED PLY OF THIS KIND OF HOUSING WHETHER CITIES OUTRIGHT PROHIBITING THESE TYPES OF HOUSING OR JUST LACK OF FINANCING OR DEVELOPERS TO KIND OF PRODUCE THIS THIS KIND OF HOUSING, WHY HAVE WE BEEN FOCUSING ON MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS ? THAT'S BECAUSE STAFF AND PREVIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS AS A KEY PRIORITY TO ENSURE THAT BLOOMINGTON CONTINUES TO LEAD IN HOUSING FOR THE REGION AND THE MINNEAPOLIS FED ESTIMATES THAT ABOUT 18,000 NEW HOUSING UNITS NEED TO BE PRODUCED EACH YEAR THROUGH 2030 TO MEET THE DEMAND AND WE SEE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AS ONE STRATEGY TO HELP INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IN BLOOMINGTON. AS I MENTIONED, THESE HOUSING TYPES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEIR FORM AND SCALE AND THEY PROVIDE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT INFILL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, BLOOMINGTON IS AS PRETTY MUCH FULLY DEVELOPED SO ANY KIND OF NEW HOUSING WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS GOING TO BE SOME KIND OF REDEVELOPMENT OR INFILL AND MISSING MIDDLE IS ONE WAY TO TO DO THAT. HOPEFULLY IF WE MEET OUR GOAL WITH THIS PROJECT TO INCREASE THE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES FOR ALL PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF LIFE THAT WE CAN POSITIVELY IMPACT HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND AFFORDABILITY IN THE CITY. WE ALSO SEE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AS A WAY TO INCREASE FLEXIBILITY AND CHOICE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT PROVIDES ADDITIONAL HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO AGE IN PLACE. LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA FROM THE LATEST AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY ABOUT 33% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN BLOOMINGTON LIVE ALONE AND AN ADDITIONAL 34% ARE FAMILIES WITHOUT CHILDREN. AND SO A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY OR A LOT OF SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLDS MIGHT ONLY HAVE THE CHOICE TO LIVE IN EITHER A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR A STUDIO OR A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE CHOICE THAT THEY HAVE OR WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT EVERY ONE OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WANTS TO LIVE IN THAT TYPE OF HOUSING. AND SO THERE'S A WAY TO TRY TO THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES AND PROVIDING MORE VARIETY IN THE CITY THROUGH THROUGH MISSING MIDDLE AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL HERE BUT JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF STATE BILLS PROPOSED AROUND INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA. A LOT OF STATE LEGISLATORS FEEL CITIES AREN'T DOING ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING SUPPLY ISSUE BUT SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO IN THIS LEGISLATIVE CYCLE OR FUTURE CYCLES. AND SO WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROPOSAL HERE IN BLOOMINGTON THAT MAYBE CAN SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE HERE IN THE REGION. AND SO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT ESTABLISHES DEFINITIONS USE ALLOWANCES FOR AND ZONING PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR A VARIETY OF NEW MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AND THAT RENAMES THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT FROM THE TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO THE MIDDLE HOUSING RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND THEN IT UPDATES THE R M 12 ZONING DISTRICT TO R M 15 THE HOUSING TYPES THAT WE LOOKED AT AND THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS ORDINANCE ARE A THREE FAMILY DWELLING OR TRIPLEX FOURPLEX DETACHED TOWNHOMES OR VILLAS A MULTIPLEX AS WELL AS COTTAGE COURTS. AND WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL ON EACH OF THOSE IN THE ZONING CODE. THIS IS A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT FOR EACH OF THESE TYPES WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE AN ORDINANCE THAT'S ABOUT 30 PAGES LONG AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF NUANCE AND DETAIL WITH THINKING ABOUT HOW TO PROPOSE A NEW HOUSING TYPE INTO CITY CODE. AND SO WE'LL WE'LL TOUCH ON SOME OF THESE. BUT AGAIN WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE SETBACKS, SITE AREA BUILDING HEIGHT, PARKING, LIGHTING, TRASH STORAGE AND REMOVAL AND THE ACTUAL APPROVAL PROCESS FOR THE SITE PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED AT PREVIOUS STUDY SESSIONS WAS WHERE TO ALLOW MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES IN THE CITY AND PARTICULARLY REALLY ASKING THE QUESTION TO WHAT EXTENT SOME OF THESE SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT THERE WAS PRETTY BROAD SUPPORT TO ALLOW THE DETACHED TOWNHOUSES IN R ONE AND SO THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. HOWEVER IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE MIXED ACROSS THE HRA BOARD PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AND SOME OF THESE OTHER TYPES IN R ONE AND SO THIS ORDINANCE TAKES THE DIRECTION TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE R3R FOR OUR M 15 ZONING DISTRICTS TO KIND OF EASE INTO ALLOWING THESE TYPES AND NOT FOCUSING SO MUCH ON THE R ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND SO THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE ALL OF THOSE EXISTING MIDDLE HOUSING DISTRICTS ARE LOCATED IN THE CITY AND LIKE WE MENTIONED IN THE STUDY SESSION TO A MAJORITY OF THESE SITES ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED. AND SO IT'S THE CASE THAT ANY KIND OF NEW MISSING MIDDLE PROPOSAL WILL LIKELY INVOLVE SOME KIND OF REZONING THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO TO MOVE FORWARD. SO JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN ON THE SPECIFIC TYPE SO WE REALLY KIND OF TREATED THREE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND FOURPLEX AS AS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME JUST GIVEN THEIR FORM AND SCALE ARE PRETTY SIMILAR. SO AGAIN THREE FAMILY DWELLING IS THREE UNITS IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE FOURPLEX FOUR UNITS IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE. I GUESS THE THE EXCEPTION OR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS THAT WE THE ORDINANCE DOES PROPOSE TO MAKE A TRIPLEX OR A THREE FAMILY DWELLING A CONDITIONAL USE AND R-1 SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT COULD BE APPROVED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT WHERE FOURPLEX IS ARE JUST PERMITTED IN R THREE AND R FOUR AND THEN WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON R ONE THERE SETBACKS AND IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS RELATE TO THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT IT'S LOCATED IN AND SO WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE CHANGES ON A COUPLE OF SLIDES WE'RE PROPOSING ONE SPACE PER DWELLING AND THEN SIMILAR TO HOW WE TREAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES NOW WANTING TO PROVIDE IF IT'S IF IT'S PERMITTED IN R3R AND R FOR THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY LIKE WE DO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR DUPLEX AND THEN GOES RIGHT INTO THE BUILDING PERMIT. NOW IF THEY WANTED FLEXIBILITY AND COULDN'T MEET ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS THEN THAT DOES COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL THROUGH A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BUT AS MAYBE A TRADE OFF TO HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, THE SITE PLAN ITSELF IF IT MEETS ALL OF OUR CODE STANDARDS COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY TO HELP STREAMLINE SOME OF THAT PROCESS. DETACHED TOWNHOMES WE DEFINE THOSE AS AN ARRANGEMENT OF MULTIPLE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT AND WITH A DETACHED TOWNHOUSE THEY COULD ALL BE LOCATED ON A COMMON LOT WITH ALL OF THE UNITS AND ANY PUBLIC SPACE OR KIND OF OPEN SPACE OR OUT LOTS OR EACH HOME COULD BE ON ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL LOT AND THAT COULD EITHER BE FRONTED ALONG A PUBLIC STREET OR PRIVATE DRIVE. AND SO THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS HERE THE INTENT WAS TO REALLY ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN THE LOCATION OF STRUCTURES AND THE SIZE OF THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO PROMOTE EFFICIENT USE OF THE LAND AND MORE INNOVATIVE SITE DESIGN. SO REALLY THE KEY FEATURE HERE IS THINK OF IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENT. BUT EACH SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS ON A LOT THAT'S SMALLER AND NARROWER THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED IN THE ZONING CODE. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE THAT PERMITTED IN R1R 3 OR 4 AND R M 15 WE'LL KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ZONING DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS AND THERE ARE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING STANDARDS. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WITH PARKING THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ALIGN DETACHED TOWNHOMES WITH ATTACHED TOWNHOMES AND CHANGE THE PARKING STANDARDS TO BE THE SAME BETWEEN THE TWO AND THAT PARKING STANDARD WOULD BE TO ALLOW TWO SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT. ONE OF THOSE MUST BE ENCLOSED AND THEN PROVIDING ADDITIONAL GUEST SPACES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AND WE FELT THIS KIND OF ALIGNS MORE I THINK WITH THE MARKET WHAT YOU SEE IN A TYPICAL TOWNHOUSE OR DETACHED HOUSE IS GOING TO BE A TWO CAR GARAGE WITH A DRIVEWAY WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR VEHICLES AS WELL. SO WHILE THE OTHER TYPES ARE MORE KIND OF LIKE PARKING LOTS OR NOT ENCLOSED PARKING WE WOULD REQUIRE GARAGES OR ENCLOSED PARKING HERE WITH THE DETACHED HOUSES AND THEN IN TERMS OF APPROVAL THOSE WOULD IF IT MEETS ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE A FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN APPROVAL THAT JUST GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR FINAL DECISION OR IF THEY'RE REQUESTING ANY FLEXIBILITY THOSE WOULD THEN GO TO A PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL THE COTTAGE COURTS. SO THOSE ARE THE ARRANGEMENT OF MULTIPLE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT ORIENTED AROUND AN ONSITE COMMON OPEN SPACE OR COURTYARD. IT'S A REALLY THE KIND OF TWO KEY FEATURES THAT I WOULD THINK ABOUT COTTAGE COURTS AS THAT ONE THEY'RE ORIENTED TOWARDS SOME KIND OF OPEN SPACE OR COURTYARD VERSUS BEING ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREET. AND THEN THE SECOND KEY FEATURE IS A COTTAGE. THE DWELLINGS IN A COTTAGE COURT ARE KIND OF INTENTIONALLY SMALLER AND MEANT TO BE KIND OF MORE OF LIKE THAT COTTAGE COTTAGE LIKE TYPE OF HOUSING KIND OF MORE FOR A SINGLE PERSON HOUSEHOLD OR OFTENTIMES ARE USED AS LIKE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OLDER RESIDENTS TO AGE IN PLACE IN THEIR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO WE WOULD JUST THOUGH AUDIENCE PROPOSES TO PERMIT THEM IN OUR THREE HOUR FOR AN HOUR AND 15 SO THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT AGAIN THEY'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING STANDARDS. THE PARKING REQUIREMENT WOULD BE ONE SPACE PER DWELLING UNIT WHICH SEEMED TO BE KIND OF THE GENERAL CONSENSUS ACROSS THE STUDY SESSIONS. HOWEVER, THERE WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WANTING TO ENSURE THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING IN SOME OF THESE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE ARE PROPOSING POINT TO FIVE GUEST SPACES PER PER DWELLING UNIT WITH A COTTAGE COURT AND THAT IMAGE JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW YOU MIGHT SEE AN INFILL COTTAGE COURT DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE. AGAIN HERE THE FINAL STATE BUILDING PLAN IF IT MEETS ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND DOESN'T NEED FLEXIBILITY THAT WOULD COME TO YOU ALL IN A FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLAN APPROVAL. OTHERWISE IT IS THERE IS FLEXIBILITY NEEDED COMES TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION AND THEN GOES TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPRAL AND THEN FINALLY MULTIPLEX AS A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE 5 TO 16 UNITS IN A SINGLE STRUCTURE. REALLY THE INTENT WITH THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS HERE IS TO OFFER MORE FLEXIBILITY IN BUILDING DESIGN FOR A SMALLER MULTIPLE FAMILY OR APARTMENT BUILDING AND AGAIN KIND OF A BRIDGING MORE EFFICIENT USE OF LAND FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT HERE MULTIPLEXES ARE WOULD BE PROPOSED PERMITTED IN ARE FOR AN HOUR AND 15 SOME OF THE FLOOR AREA THINGS ARE SIMILAR TO MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY AGAIN WE'LL HAVE LANDSCAPING LIGHTING STANDARDS MOST OF THAT FOCUSES AROUND SCREENING THE PARKING AREA FROM THE STREET AND FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES OR USES THE ONE PROBABLY KEY DIFFERENCE FOR A MULTIPLEX VERSUS A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX IS THAT RELATED TO TRASH A LOT IN OUR MULTIFAMILY TRASH IS USUALLY KIND OF IN THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE OR IN SOME KIND OF TRASH ROOM. IN THESE CASES GIVEN THE SCALE IS MUCH SMALLER IT'S PROBABLY JUST NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF UNDERGROUND GARAGE. AND SO WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING SOME FLEXIBILITY IS THAT THEY COULD STILL DO SOME KIND OF ATTACHED TRASH ROOM IF THEY'D LIKE OR THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING A DETACHED TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT WOULD MEET ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE ADOPTED THROUGH THE SMALL BUSINESS ORDINANCE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO FOR PARKING AGAIN ONE SPACE PER UNIT BUT THEN HAVING POINT FIVE GUEST SPACES PER DWELLING UNIT. SO IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT 1.5 PER PER UNIT AND THEN SIMILARLY AGAIN IF THEY MET ALL OF CODE REQUIREMENTS THEY WOULD JUST GO TO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR NEEDED FLEXIBILITY GOES TO YOU ALL FOR RECOMMENDATION AND THEN TO TO THE COUNCIL. SO THAT KIND OF GETS AT THE THE USES IN THE STRUCTURES THEMSELVES. AND THEN THE OTHER BIG PIECE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS FOCUSING ON THE ZONING DISTRICTS. AND SO LIKE I MENTIONED IT'S RENAMING THE R THREE ZONING DISTRICT FROM TOWNHOUSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO MIDDLE HOUSING. THIS IS A NEWER ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2015 KIND OF SPECIFIC FOR TOWNHOUSES AND THERE IS ONLY ONE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IN BLOOMINGTON THAT'S ZONED R THREE AND SO STAFF DID YOU KNOW CONSIDER DO WE JUST ELIMINATE THIS ZONING DISTRICT AND KIND OF CONDENSE OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND ULTIMATELY WHERE WE KIND OF LANDED WAS TO KEEP IT AND JUST MAKE IT MORE BROAD FOR OTHER TYPES OF MIDDLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. AND PART OF THE REASON OR THINKING ABOUT IT THE OTHER WAY AS WELL MAYBE A LOT OF ZONING DISTRICTS GETS COMPLICATED. THE BENEFIT IS IT GIVES US JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OPTIONS TO KIND OF MEET THE VARYING DIFFERENT CONTEXTS THAT WE MIGHT SEE KIND OF INFILL OR REDEVELOPMENT. SO WE WOULD ENVISION OR KIND OF PRIORITIZE REZONING TO R THREE ON A PROPOSAL THAT'S MORE SURROUNDED BY R ONE ZONING DISTRICT OR IS MORE A MORE OR LESS GUIDED LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THEN IF THERE WAS A SITE THAT WAS GUIDED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OR SURROUNDED BY MORE MULTIFAMILY USES OR NONRESIDENTIAL USES ENCOURAGING THAT ARE FOR OUR M 15 ZONING DISTRICT SO IT GETS A LITTLE BIT IN THE ZONING WEEDS THERE BUT HAPPY TO CLARIFY ANYTHING. AND THEN ON THE NT SLIDE I'LL SHOW WE'RE ALIGNING THE DENSITY THRESHOLDS FOR THESE ZONING DISTRICTS TO BETTER ALIGN WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GUIDANCE AND THEN THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL KIND OF MISCELLANEOUS LITTLE UPDATES AROUND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS. AGAIN KIND OF GOING THROUGH IN HAVING TO CHANGE EVERY REFERENCE TO OUR M 12 TO OUR 15 IN THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT KIND OF ADDS TO THE LENGTH OF THE ORDINANCE AS WELL. SO LOOKING AT THE STANDARDS FOR THE DISTRICTS THEMSELVES FIRST STARTING WITH SITE AREA WE PROPOSED TO REDUCE THAT TO 11,054 OUR THREE AND THE REASON RATIONALE THERE WAS THAT 11,050 IF YOU HAD A THREE FAMILY DWELLING AT THAT SIZE OF LOT YOU'RE YOU'RE MAXED OUT AT YOUR 12 UNITS AN ACRE AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR STARTING POINT AND THEN REALLY JUST CREATED A TIERED SYSTEM FROM WHAT WAS 14,000 FOR SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS TO GO TO 20,000 FOR OUR FOUR AND THEN 30,000 FOR OUR 15 TO JUST HELP BETTER DISTINGUISH THE ZONING DISTRICTS TO RESPOND TO DIFFERENT CONTEXTS. A SIMILAR APPROACH WAS DONE WITH THE SITE WITH KIND OF THINKING ABOUT ON A THREE FAMILY DWELLING 60FT IS LIKELY ALL THE WIDTH YOU WOULD NEED DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN AND THEN AGAIN JUST KIND OF CREATING A TIERED SYSTEM UP FROM WHAT WAS 200 FOR EVERYTHING TO 100 AND 150 WITH THE DENSITY THRESHOLDS WE HAD TO INCREASE THE R THREE DENSITY FROM EIGHT UNITS AN ACRE TO 12 UNITS AN ACRE TO MATCH THAT LOW DENSITY GUIDANCE IS CURRENTLY 1 TO 12 UNITS AN ACRE AND THEN FOR R FOR AN HOUR AND 15 AND THE REASON WHY WE NEEDED TO RENAME OUR M 12 HOUR AND 15 WAS TO INCREASE THAT FROM 12 UNITS AN ACRE TO 15 UNITS AN ACRE AND THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR MEDIUM DENSITY DESIGNATIONS AND THE COMP PLAN THAT GUIDES THESE AREAS FROM 5 TO 15 UNITS AN ACRE. SO SORRY THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF NUMBERS AND A LOT OF SAYING UNITS PER ACRE BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THERE. AND THEN FINALLY LOOKING AT THE SETBACKS FOR THESE DISTRICTS, WE HAD PROPOSE A 20 FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE STREET AND THEN 20FT REAR SETBACK IN A TEN FOOT SIDE YARD SETBACK. AND THIS REALLY WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT OTHER COMPARISON CITIES AND WHAT THEY ALLOW FOR THESE KINDS OF HOUSING TYPES OF AS WELL AS LOOKING AT SOME RECENT PROPOSALS WHERE WE'VE GIVEN DIFFERENT SETBACKS FLEXIBILITIES AND IT SEEMED LIKE 20 IS KIND OF WHERE WE LAND AND AND THAT STILL GIVES US ENOUGH ROOM LIKE WE REQUIRE A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER IN MANY CASES, YOU KNOW ALONG OTHER PROPERTY LINES THERE'S USUALLY SOME KIND OF EASEMENT OR THINGS TOO. SO THIS JUST FELT LIKE IT GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY ON WHERE YOU COULD LOCATE ON THE SITE WHILE STILL KIND OF ALIGNING WITH HOW WE'VE TREATED OTHER DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE THERE'S ADEQUATE OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON THE SITE AS WELL. AND SO WITH THAT I KNOW IT'S A LONGER ORDINANCE AND LOTS OF COMPLEXITIES SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OTHERWISE WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THERE ON THE SCREEN. THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, MR. CASSIDY WE'LL BEGIN WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER MOSTER EXCUSE ME JUST ONE QUESTION FOR THE DETACHED DOWN DETACHED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT TYPE IS THERE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF DETACHED TOWNHOUSES REQUIRED FOR SUCH A DEVELOPMENT? YEAH. CHAIR COOKED IN COMMISSIONER MUNSTER THERE IS SO FOR A DETACHED TOWNHOUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE UNITS IN THERE IN IT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE DETACHED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND REALLY THE RATIONALE THERE TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER WAS JUST TO ENSURE AGAIN THAT IT IS MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT KIND OF STYLE AND YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T PUT A MINIMUM AT THAT POINT WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE ALL OF YOUR R-1 STANDARDS SO WE'RE NOT CREATING THESE KIND OF ONE OFFS WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF SPLITTING AN ALREADY NARROW LOT INTO A NARROWER LOT TO GET KIND OF TWO SKINNY BUILDINGS ON THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DEVELOPMENT APPROACH SO THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE UNITS. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEE NONE. THANK YOU. MR. CASSIDY THANKS. THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS THE APPLICANT HERE SO WE WILL MOVE THEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING WHICH I WILL OPEN NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS RICK FOCUSING. I'M A RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON. I LIVE IN THE CLUB ROAD AREA THERE. I'M A HOMEBUILDER AND WE STRUGGLE CONSTANTLY WITH A SUPPLY OF HOUSING LOTS SO OPPORTUNITIES LIKE SINGLE INFILL LOTS WHICH ARE SCATTERED AROUND THE CITY AND ALL THE CITIES USUALLY DON'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE EXPENSIVE. NEW CONSTRUCTION IS JUST DISPROPORTIONATE TO THE EXISTING VALUES. BUT WHEN YOU COME ACROSS THESE CASES WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE LOTS ARE ENOUGH TO SUBDIVIDE INTO THESE CASES REALLY CREATES OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH AND WE'RE IN A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL HOUSING SHORTAGE AT THIS POINT LOCALLY NATIONALLY ALL THAT. SO MY CASE IN POINT WHICH I STRONGLY SUPPORT ALL OF THIS I THINK IT ALL MAKES GOOD SENSE AND THERE'S MINIMUM CRITERIA IN THERE THAT I LISTEN TO AND ALL THIS AND IT ALL MAKES GOOD SENSE AND I'M JUST IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THIS CONCEPT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU COULD SIGN INVOICE THERE PLEASE APPRECIATE THAT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? IS IS OR ANYONE IN LINE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE SITE CHAIR COOKED IN? THERE'S NO ONE ON LINE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ASK IT IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER. THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. MY NAME'S SCOTT CARLSON AND I'M ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECTS OVER HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE MY WIFE AND I BOTH GREW UP HERE SINCE THE EARLY 60S SO WE'VE BEEN IN LEAMINGTON RESIDENT LONG TIME ANYWAY. WE'RE BOTH JEFFERSON GRADS BUT THE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS VERY, VERY WELL NEEDED. I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS SINCE 1982 IN THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS AND THEY'RE THIS AREA THAT WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON. AND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE AUDIENCE THAT FIT IT AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS SO MUCH GROWTH OUT WEST WITH DEAN PRAIRIE TO TENNIS AND ONWARD AND THE VILLAS AND THE SMALLER TYPE UNITS. WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT'S GOING ON UNDER THE VILLAGE PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DOING TO FIT INTO THIS SITUATION WILL INCLUDE ELEVATORS IN BOTH THE PRODUCT TYPES AND WE THINK THAT CAN ALSO LET OUR FOLKS STAY IN THE UNITS A COUPLE OF YEARS LONGER INSTEAD OF GET INTO THE HOME CARE. AND THAT'S REALLY OUR GOAL OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY VERY HIGH AND VERY ENERGETIC AND YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT REALLY FITS IN SOMETHING VERY WELL NEEDED IN HERE IN THE WEST BLOOMINGTON AREA. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. >> LAST CALL FOR ANYONE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM, SEE NO ONE COMING FORWARD I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THE SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MISS ASPECT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CAPTAIN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WHITE MONSTER I SUMMERS I. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. WE'LL MOVE TO DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU CHAIR PLANNING SUPERVISOR CASTANEDA I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU AND STAFF HAVE PUT INTO THIS ORDINANCE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS FOR YOU AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR IT . THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TESTIMONY ON THIS AND THANK YOU ALSO FOR PICKING UP OUR FEW MINOR TWEAKS FROM THE STUDY SESSION A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I SEE COMMISSIONER WAITE AND COMMISSIONER SOWERS. I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER WAITE . THANK YOU, CHAIR. I TOO AM IN FAVOR OF THIS. I THINK THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP INCREASE DENSITY AND CREATE OPPORTUNITY FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS IS GOOD. I ALSO JUST YOU KNOW I GUESS WANT TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT I DO HOPE THAT THIS WILL ALSO LEAD TO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I THINK THAT THAT IS ALSO A MISSING MIDDLE. SO I HOPE THAT THAT AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE OF IMPLEMENTING THIS ORDINANCE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT AS A TOP CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WITT. COMMISSIONER SUMMERS THANK YOU CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO SHARED WHAT I SEE REFLECTED IN THOSE COMMENTS AND THE CHANGES HERE IS REALLY A BALANCE OF REDUCING RISK AND REMOVING BARRIERS SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN TRULY HAPPEN AND THAT THERE IS A THOROUGH PATH FORWARD BUT IT'S INCREMENTAL CHANGE SO IT WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS TO KEEP THE CHARACTER WE KNOW AND LOVE BUT PUSH US FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SILVER. COMMISSIONER ISA THANK YOU CHAIR. YEAH, I ECHO THE SAME THOUGHTS AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR THE DARROW PRESENTATION AND ALL THE WORK YOU AND THE REST OF THE STAFF HAS HAS DONE ON THIS. I THINK YOU GUYS ALSO FOR COMING IT'S IT'S NICE TO HEAR FROM DEVELOPERS AND YOU KNOW AND HOW THAT WILL POSITIVELY IMPACT YOUR LINE OF BUSINESS WHICH WILL HAVE A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT ON RESIDENTS MORE HIGH LOW INCOME HOUSING SENIOR HOUSING MARKET PRICE TOO DOESN'T MATTER MORE HOUSING IN GENERAL. AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE VILLAS MIGHT BE COMING TO BLOOMINGTON. I KNOW THERE'S CLOSE LOCATIONS LIKE TWO AND ST LOUIS PARK BUT POTENTIALLY SO YEAH OVERALL REALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS SO YEAH. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LISA I TOO AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I'VE ATTENDED A FAIR AMOUNT OF NATIONAL CONFERENCES AND WHAT THE PULSE OF NATIONAL PLANNING TRENDS ARE AND THIS IS VERY MUCH ON TREND WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING NATIONALLY IN OUR MOST URBAN ENVIRONMENTS IS THE CREATION OF MISSING MENTAL HOUSING AND I GIVE STAFF HERE A LOT OF CREDIT FOR BEING RIGHT ON RIGHT ON TOP OF THIS THAT WE ARE WE'RE RIGHT WHERE WE SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF CREATING NEW HOUSING FOR OUR URBAN CITY WHICH IS FULLY BUILT OUT AND WE NEED TO BE CREATIVE TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE COTTAGE COURTS BEING REMOVED FROM OUR ONE. I KNOW THAT WAS UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THE STUDY SESSIONS. THAT WAS MY BIG HESITANCY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS THE COTTAGE COURTS IN OUR ONE I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT GONE. AS FOR WHERE IT STANDS TODAY HONESTLY FOR ME IT'S IT'S NOT QUITE AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH. I, I WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE GONE EVEN FURTHER AND I, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE TAKING A, YOU KNOW, A MODERATE APPROACH TO THIS OR IT'S NOT EVEN REALLY A MATTER OF BEING PRETTY AGGRESSIVE BUT I WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE. I THINK WE COULD DO MORE THAN THIS BECAUSE I THINK EVEN THOUGH WE'RE CODIFYING IT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. RIGHT? SO MINNEAPOLIS IS A FEW YEARS AHEAD OF US ON A LOT OF THIS AND EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD COMING OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T REALLY REALIZED THE IMPACT OF THE CODE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE MADE THAT THEY HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF TRIPLEXES AND QUAD PLEX IS ACTUALLY BEING BUILT IN THEIR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS AND THINGS EVEN THOUGH THEY ALLOW IT AND I DON'T THINK WE'D SEE THAT HERE EITHER IF MINNEAPOLIS ISN'T SEEING IT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE EVEN LONGER TO REACH HERE. AND SO IF WE HAD ALLOWED QUAD PLEX IS IN OUR ONE I DON'T THINK NEXT YEAR WE WOULD SEE A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS FOR QUAD FLEXES. I THINK IT JUST SETS US UP WELL FOR THE FUTURE AND THOSE 1 OR 2 CASES WHERE MAYBE THERE WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS WE'RE GOING TO MISS OUT ON THAT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T QUITE AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH HERE. I'M REALLY AGGRESSIVE ON DENSIFY ING OUR HOUSING AND URBANIZING OUR CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY LAND LEFT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GROW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DENSIFY AND SO I HOPE THIS IS STEP ONE AND MAYBE WE'LL SEE PHASE THREE IN A FUTURE YEAR TO BE EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVE. BUT I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT START. I AM IN FAVOR OF IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT QUITE AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH. I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I GET STAFF A LOT OF CREDIT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A BUNCH OF YEARS AND AGAIN WE ARE RIGHT WHERE WE SHOULD BE. I THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING NATIONWIDE IN TERMS OF CREATING A FOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNERSHIP AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THE SITE? IF NOT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. COMMISSIONER CUNNINGHAM IN CASE PL 2025-199I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING PHASE TWO ORDINANCE AS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ORDINANCE. IS THERE ANY FINAL DISCUSSION THIS ASPECT PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CAPTAIN I CUNNINGHAM I ISSA I WHITE I MONSTER I SUMMERS I THE MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO THIS WILL GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DECISION ON FEBRUARY 23RD THANK YOU MR. CASSIDY. THANK YOU FOR FINAL THIS ITEM THIS EVENING IS ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION POLICIES AND ISSUES UPDATE MR. JOHNSON THANK YOU CHAIR COOKED AND THE ONLY ITEMS I'LL SHARE TONIGHT JUST ARE PREVIEWING UPCOMING MEETINGS FEBRUARY 12TH OUR MEETING IS GOING TO BE CANCELED DUE TO LACK OF DEVELOPMENT ITEMS AND LONG RANGE ITEMS COMING TO THAT MEETING. THE FEBRUARY 19TH MEETING INCLUDES A FEW ITEMS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FINAL SITE AND BUILDING PLANS AND A VARIANCE FOR THE CITY SALT SHED AND BRAND BUILDING LOCATED AT 9721 JAMES AVENUE SOUTH A VARIANCE FOR LOT WITH AT 9211 COLUMBUS AVENUE SOUTH THAT'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ROSA DEVELOPMENT PRIVATELY INITIATED CITY CODE AMENDMENT RELATED TO AIRPORT PARKING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ONE TIME BEFORE THEY HAVE SINCE AMENDED THEIR APPLICATION AND SO IT'S ROUTING BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BASED ON THOSE AMENDMENTS FOR A SUBSEQUENT PUBLIC HEARING. A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CITY CODE AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE CITY'S FENCE STANDARDS IS ALSO PLANNED FOR THAT MEETING. AND THEN FINALLY A STUDY ITEM AN INFORMATIONAL UPDATE ON THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION FEES. WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME WORK STUDYING OUR FEES AND HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SOME OF OUR FEES. I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE FEBRUARY 26TH MEETING ALSO IS A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR CANCELLATION AT THIS POINT THAT COULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE HERE BUT I'LL CERTAINLY BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT THAT MEETING. AND THEN FINALLY I MENTIONED THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING BUT SOME OF THE LIAISONS TO ADVISORY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE CONTEMPLATING HOLDING A JOINT MEETING ON MARCH THE 10TH. SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WITH SOME EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE ON THAT. BUT IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE PERHAPS HOLD THAT EVENING IF YOU ARE ABLE BUT I'LL CONNECT WITH YOU ALL AND SOME OF THE TOPICS WOULD BE RELATED TO UPDATES OF THE CITY'S OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE. THERE'S BEEN AN ONGOING NEXUS AND HOUSING STUDY BEING COMPLETED BY A CONSULTANT AS WELL AS A KICKOFF OR INITIAL PRESENTATION AROUND THE CITY'S EFFORT AND PROCESS FOR THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT'S UNDERWAY. IT'S HARD TO GET A BIG GROUP TOGETHER ALL IN ONE SPACE AT ONE TIME BUT WE'RE WORKING TO DO THAT. WE KNOW IT'S AT LEAST WE'VE RECEIVED PAST FEEDBACK THAT THAT'S APPRECIATED OR A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ALIGNMENT AND SHARE IDEAS AMONGST THE CITY'S DECISION MAKERS. SO THAT'S ALL I'LL SHARE FOR MY UPDATE. THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND TREATS ARE A GOOD WAY TO GET A GOOD LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER JUST THROWING OUT NOTED. OKAY. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TO BRING UP ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA AND I'D LIKE TO START MR. JOHNSON WITH AN ITEM OVER OUR LAST I THINK THREE MEETINGS OR SO WE'VE SEEN I DON'T KNOW ROUGHLY FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR CANNABIS RELATED ITEMS WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IF CITY STAFF HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON WHY THAT MIGHT BE. IS THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH ARE WE STARTING TO SEE OVERSATURATE MOTION OR JUST WANT TO GET STAFFS THOUGHTS ON WHY WE MIGHT BE SEEING SUCH A RASH OF CANNABIS APPLICATIONS? YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR COACH AND FOR THAT QUESTION SO YEAH YOU HAVE HAD A FEW THE LAST FEW MEETINGS WE DON'T THINK WE'RE AT A POINT OF OVER CENTURIES OVERSATURATION. THE REASON YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS IS THAT THERE WAS A BOTTLENECK EFFECTIVELY AT THE STATE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF RELEASING THEIR LICENSES. SO NOW THAT THE PRELIMINARY LICENSES HAVE BEEN RELEASED, NOW YOU'RE SEEING THE DOWNSTREAM ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS COME FORWARD. AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE AS IT RELATES TO BLOOMINGTON IS THAT 5% OF THE CITY'S LAND AREA IS GATED INDUSTRIAL. SO I KNOW THAT SEEMS LOW BUT BY COMPARISON TO SOME OF OUR PEER CITIES THAT'S ACTUALLY A HIGHER AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAN SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND SO ONE THING TO KNOW WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATION IS THAT ALL CANNABIS PRODUCTS THAT ARE SOLD LEGALLY FOR RECREATIONAL USE IN MINNESOTA HAVE TO BE CREATED AND PRODUCED IN MINNESOTA. SO RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A SOME BUSINESSES TRYING TO BE ESTABLISHED TO CATCH UP TO THE DEMAND BY CREATING MORE PRODUCT OR SUPPLY TO FULFILL THE RETAIL OPERATIONS. SO I'M NOT AN EXPER IN THE INDUSTRY BY ANY MEANS BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP THE PRODUCT OR SUPPLY UP TO THE DEMAND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT ALL THE PRODUCTS HAVE TO BE CREATED IN MINNESOTA. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS I THINK THE APPLICATIONS YOU'VE SEEN ARE MOSTLY ON MANUFACTURING AND CULTIVATION. THERE IS ONE FOR RETAIL TONIGHT OF COURSE, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST TRYING TO CATCH UP TO THAT DEMAND. AND THEN RELATED JUST TO THE LICENSING BOTTLENECK AT THE STATE SO THAT THOSE ARE REALLY THE DYNAMICS WE WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS PACE TO CONTINUE ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND THEN CERTAINLY AT THAT POINT THEN YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF OVERSATURATE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION AND IT'S SOMEWHAT RHETORICAL THAT I'LL ASK FOR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT. IS THERE ANY RISK IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE CHANGING THEIR MIND NOT THAT THEY WOULD EVER DO SUCH A THING BUT COULD THE POLITICAL CLIMATE CHANGE AND CANNABIS AGAIN BECOMES A RESTRICTED SUBSTANCE AND NOW WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT LEGAL? IS THERE A RISK THERE? CHAIR COOKSON THAT IS A RISK THAT THESE BUSINESSES DO HAVE TO TAKE. THEY NAVIGATE POLITICAL AND REGULATORY ENVIRONMENTS EVERY DAY BUSINESSES DO THAT. I THINK YOU SAW THAT WITH SOME FEDERAL LEGISLATION THAT CAME OUT AROUND HEMP PRODUCTS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT WERE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THAT AND I DIDN'T FOLLOW IT LASER CLOSELY TO KNOW WHERE ALL THAT ENDED UP. I'M SURE THAT THOSE BUSINESSES ARE ADVOCATING FOR THEMSELVES TO KIND OF RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE REGULATORY CHALLENGES . SO THAT IS A THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. I THINK THE GOOD THING IS THAT A LOT OF THESE INDUSTRIAL SPACES THAT ARE BUILT OUT FOR THIS USE CERTAINLY CAN BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER USES AND THAT'S KIND OF THE NATURE OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL REAL ESTATE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST IT'S CONSTANTLY REINVENTING ITSELF TO A DEGREE. SO I THINK THERE IS A RISK BUT I'D SAY THE RISK FALLS MORE ON THE OPERATORS AND INVESTORS OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAN IT DOES ON SAY THE CITY THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING SO SEEING NONE. THAT CONCLUDES THIS JANUARY 22ND MEETING OF THE BLOOMINGTON PLANNING COMMISSION. GOOD NIGHT