Tampa City Council 05/16/2024 Part 2

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C CAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE. >>LUIS VIERA: HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE. >>CLERK: OFF PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT. WE WILL KICK IT OFF WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL, CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. I SUBMITTED A COUPLE OF THEMMOS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ITEM YOU WANT TO DO FIRST. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, IF YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF. >>LUIS VIERA: QUICK AND THEN THE EUROPEAN GOES AND THEN I CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS ARE MANISCALCO DO YOU HAVE A SLIDE SHOW CONVERSATION? >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE MEMO I TALKED ABOUT TALKED ABOUT A MASTER PLAN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WILL TAKE THE UNION UP AND THEN GO BACK FROM THERE. YES, SIR, COME ON UP. HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DON SNIPES, LOCAL 754. THANKS FOR HAVING US UP HERE. A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I SPEAK TO YOU, IT IS USUALLY RIGHT HERE FACE TO FACE, EYE TO EYE. THERE IS SO MANY BULLET POINTS TODAY, THAT I HAD TO PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER. I WISH IT COULD BE AS BRIEF AS MY PBA COLLEAGUES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT. WE LIKE -- WE LIKE TO QUOTE FAMOUS PEOPLE SOMETIMES, RIGHT. SO I PULLED A QUOTE TODAY FROM JELLY ROLL. SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE COUNTRY MUSIC FANS. SOME OF YOU MIGHT NOT. I TOOK THE REAR VIEW OFF OF THIS OLD FORD SO I CAN ONLY SEE IN FRONT OF ME. THE EYE OF LOCAL 574 HAS BEEN RINGING THE BELL ON THIS OVERSIGHT AND FIRE PUBLIC SAFETY SINCE 2019-2019 THREE UNION PRESIDENTS. THREE FIRE CHIEFS. THOSE FIRE CHIEFS ALL WORKED TOGETHER IN THAT ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT TIME. THEY WERE ALL COLLEAGUES. WE LOOK AROUND ALL OVER THE CITY REGARDLESS IF YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE OF YOUR VEHICLE, THE LEFT SIDE OR WINDSHIELD OR REAR VIEW. MILLIONS OF SQUARE FOOTAGE HAVE BEEN RAISED FROM THE GROUND UP AND STILL NOT DEDICATING PUB SAFETY TO THE FOREFRONT OF THE FIRESIDE. I HAVE BEEN AROUND FIRE SERVICE MY WHOLE LIFE, THIRD GENERATION FIRE FIGHTER. 28 OF MY OWN HAVE BEEN SPENT IN PUBLIC SERVICE. MY FATHER WAS INALONE AT 'FIRE CHIEF AND LED A FIRE DEPARTMENT IN CHARGE OF LEADING HIS MEN IN THAT DEPARTMENT AS CHIEF, HAVING TO CREATE MASTER AND STRATEGIC PLANS AND GOING IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCILS AND DOING THE SAME THING THAT YOU ALL HAVE ASKED OF THIS FIRE ADMINISTRATION. JUST HITS HOME. I AM A HISTORIAN DRIVEN BY DATA AND FACT. DATA SHOWS THAT WE ARE BEHIND. LEADERS LIKE TO LEAD. INFORM GOOD TIMES, THEY LOVE TO LEAD. IN THE PAD TIME, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE. JUST THE WAY WE HAVE TO GO IF WE HAD TO BE LEADERS. MOTION MADE. EARLY 2020. WORKSHOPS CALLED FOR MARCH OF 2021. THE LOCAL 574 PRESENTED TO COUNCIL MULTIPLE TIMES. HALF A DOZEN TIMES COUNCIL HAS REQUESTED A MASTER STRATEGIC PLAN HIGHLIGHTING DEFICITS AND SOLUTIONS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I EVEN RECALL COUNCILMEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBERS OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN STRATEGIC AND MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE UNION HAS OFFERED OUR ASSISTANCE WITH THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE INTERNATIONAL OFFICE IN D.C. TO HELP MOVE THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE DIRECTION IT NEEDS TO BE. MOSTLY COSTLY DATA ANALYSIS WERE DONE BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE IFF PROVIDED THIS SERVICE FREE THROUGH THE D.C. OFFICE. WE TALK ABOUT THE DATA. WE HEAR DATA A LOT. WE LIKE TO LOOK AT THE DATA. SOMETIMES WE ARE TOLD THAT THE DATA IS OLD. SOMETIMES WE ARE TOLD THE DATA IS DELAYED BECAUSE A C.A.D. SYSTEM IS NOT UP AND RUNNING. DOCUMENTED IN MANY MEETINGS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATION HAS HOLDING IT COUNCIL THERE WILL BE A C.A.D. SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING BY THE END OF THE YEAR 2021. I AM LOOKING AT THE DATE TODAY, IT IS MAY OF 2024. OKAY. WE HEAR DEPENDENT ON YOUR MOTIVATION HOW YOU MAY INTERPRET THE DATA. WE ALL DO THAT. I CAN GIVE YOU DATA THERE AT THE COUNCIL TABLE. THERE IS SIX OF YOU HERE TODAY THAT COULD INTERPRET IT HOWEVER YOU WANT. BUT WHEN WE DRIVE THE DATA, KEV TO DRIVE THE DATA FROM A STANDARD POINT. PBA AND CHIEF BERCAW WAS HERE THIS MORNING. DATA POINTS FROM ALL OVER THE NATION. AND DATA POINTS FROM OUR OWN CITY. UNEQUIVOCALLY, ALL GOOD DATA. THE DATA WE ARE LED TO BELIEVE ON THE IFF SAID IS UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION. THAT NEVER TAKES INTO AFFECT THAT WHEN THAT UNITS GETS THAT 911 CALL AT THE STATION, GETS ON THE ROAD, GETS TO THE PATIENT, DOES PATIENT CARE, THEN TRANSPORTS THAT PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL OR IS ON APPEAR WORKING STRUCTURE FIRE OR AN EXTENDED BRUSH FIRE, THOSE ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE BUT WE ONLY USE THE TIME FROM GOING TO THE CALL TO THE TIME THEY GO, OKAY, WE ARE BACK IN THE TRUCK AND HEADED BACK TO OUR HOUSE. WELL, IF I AM A TRUCK ON THE NORTH END AND I GET INVITED INTO THE INNER CITY, IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE I GET UP TO THE NORTH END TO PROTECT THOSE COMMUNITIES AGAIN. SO UNIT HOUR AUTHORIZATION IS NOT A VERY GOOD GRADIENT TO USE. THE NFPA PUTS OUT A STANDARDIZED WAY TO CALCULATE SERVICE FOR YOUR DELIVERY ZONE. AND IT IS FROM WHEN THE UNIT IS DISPATCHED TO WHEN A UNIT IS AVAILABLE TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY IT BELONGS IN. THOSE ARE DATA POINTS. CALL VOLUME IS STILL A PROBLEM. TRAVEL TIMES, STILL A WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE GOT -- I PULLED NUMBERS FROM CHIEF BERCAW'S PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND OVER 400,000 PEOPLE LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND BY THE END OF 2028 WHICH IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE IS GOING TO BE ALMOST 460,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. THOSE ARE MORE BARRIERS FOR US ABLE TO TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. THE UNIT HAS OFFERED STAFFING SOLUTIONS IN ORDER TO HELP MEET INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND LIFE SAFETY COMPONENTS TO THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO THIS CITY. TURN ON THE NEWS ANY GIVEN DAY. THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ON THE NEWS AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED CITIES TO NOT ONLY BRING YOUR BUSINESS TO, YOUR INDUSTRY, MOVE IN HERE AND WORK, LIVE AND PLAY READY. INDUSTRY USES THE CITY OF TAMPA'S BACKDROP FOR THEIR MEETINGS, CONVENTIONS, AND ROLLOUT MAJOR PLANS THAT THEIR COMPANIES ARE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. IT IS A SOUGHT-AFTER PLACE. NOT ONLY DEALING WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE BUT DEALING WITH THE INFLUX OF VISITORS. ANOTHER ONE IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST TOURISM DESTINATIONS CURRENTLY IN THE STATE. NFPA SUGGESTS 182 PERSONNEL CURRENTLY OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFFS 25 STATIONS WITH 162. WE HAVE 162 ON A DAILY BASIS TO COVER 25 STATIONS. NFPA SAYS 182. WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO PUT THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET THAT WHEN A 911 CALL COMES IN, NOT UNLIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE CAN RESPOND WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MITIGATE THOSE EMERGENCIES WHEN THEY HAPPEN. OUR STAFFING ALSO HAS BE BEEN SWAYED BY TTHE DAY. I WILL GO BACK TO THE DATA, I ONLY HAVE BEEN A UNION REP AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. VOTED IN BY THE MEMBERS OF LOCAL 754. AND I HEARD THE WORD "DATA" AD NAUSEAM. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GOOD DATA POINT TO START WITH. THE DATA SAYS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS 792 BUDGETED POSITIONS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 764 WHAT WE WOULD CALL BUTTS IN THE SEAT. I BELIEVE 12 OR 13 OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY AT THE TRAINING GROUNDS FINISHING UP THEIR TRAINING. THE FUNNY WAY I CAME TO THAT NUMBER IS FROM THE DATA I FOUND. IN FISCAL YEAR '23, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGETED FOR SWORN AND UNIFORM SALARIES. AND ALL THE WAY AT THE FAR RIGHT OF THE PAGE IT SAYS 12.3% SURPLUS. THAT IS OVER $7 MILLION BACK TO THE CITY, NOT USED FOR BUTTS IN THE SEAT. THAT WOULD BE -- IF I HAD TO SIM PLY IF FOR MYSELF, WE HAVE SEVEN POSITIONS ON COUNCIL. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WILL PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH FOUR OR FIVE. LET'S BUILD THE SEATS. THE BUDGET IS THERE. THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. THE DATA IS FROM THE CITY. NOT THE I.A.F. DATA, THE CITY'S DATA. 574 HAS REPEATEDLY HOPED TO HELP OUR FIRE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE FULL SUPPORT OF OUR D.C. OFFICE. THE ADMIN HAS NOT REACHED OUT. THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE SCHEDULED LABOR MANAGEMENT. CONTRACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO HAVE ONCE A MONTH. WE HAD FOUR. ONE WAS CANCELLED BY THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE MONTH OF APRIL. AND THAT MOST RECENT ONE UNFORTUNATELY A FIRE CHIEF WAS UNAVAILABLE BECAUSE OF OUR SCHEDULING. WE STILL HAD A LABOR MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD ANTIDEPRESSANT THERE IS A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS STILL. IN THE PREVIOUS FIRE ADMINISTRATION STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN -- I DO HAVE SOMETHING FOR THE ELMO. I ALWAYS WANTED TO SAY THAT. THIS WAS FROM THE MASTER PLAN PRESE PRESENTED. IT SAYS, EIGHT EMS GOLF CARTS, TWO HEAVY RESCUES, 17 NEW RESCUE CAR AMBULANCES, FIVE NEW ENGINES, PUMPER, ONE NEW TILLER K-9 CHEMICAL BIOLOGICAL, NUCLEAR IN BOAT AND TWO AMBU BUSES. WE FEEL THAT THE COUNCIL, SINCE YOU ARE PUTTING THIS ALLOTMENT OF MONEY ASIDE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE BUDGET, WHERE ARE WE ON THESE BENCHMARKS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE IN COUNCIL. AGAIN, RECENTLY, WE ASKED ABOUT PROJECT STATION 24. STATION 24 FROM THAT SAME MASTER PLAN FOR NORTH TAMPA. WE STRUGGLE TO FIND SOME PROPERTY IN THE BEGINNING. THERE WAS -- THERE WAS DELAYS WITH -- A WITH A FEW OTHER HURDLES THAT HAD TO BE OVERCOME. AND MOST RECENTLY IN MULTIPLE LABOR MANAGEMENTS, WE HEARD HURDLES THAT SINCE THERE IS CHANGING STAFF IN MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THINGS CAN'T GET DONE. WE WILL GET THERE. WE ARE 20 YEARS BEHIND. I THINK I MADE THAT STATEMENT THE LAST TIME I ADDRESSED COUNCIL. WE ARE 20 YEARS BEHIND WITH A PROBLEM WE HAVE BEEN RINGING A BELL ON SINCE 2019 AND 2019, WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO RING THE BELL, AND WE JUST NEED THESE MEN AND WE WILL OF IFF -- LOCAL 574. THEY NEED THE SUPPORT. THEY NEED YOUR HELP IN DRIVING THIS DEPARTMENT IN A DIRECTION IT NEEDS TO BE. WE SAW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAND UP HERE THIS MORNING. WE AGREE THAT THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE P.B.A. HAS SAT DOWN, I THINK, PRESIDENT BRANDON BARKLEY SPOKE FOR 3 SECONDS. WE AGREE AND WE WILL A LOT THAT TIME FOR THE CHIEF TO PRESENT YOUR PLAN -- THE PLAN -- THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PBA AND THE ADMINISTRATION AGREE UPON. I WOULD LOVE TO BE RIGHT HERE IN THAT SAME SPOT. SO TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP. I MADE A PROMISE TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE IAFF LOCAL 754 THAT WHEN I BECAME AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF THIS UNION, THIS LABOR UNION, THAT I WOULD FIGHT. I AM NOT GOING AWAY. I WILL NOT GO AWAY. I WILL CONTINUE TO BE DATA-DR.Y DRIVEN. I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A HISTORIAN AND I WILL CONTINUE CONTINUE TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO EXERCISE GIVING THE ADMINISTRATION ANY INSISTENCE IT NEEDS FROM THE IAFF. AND I SAID THAT IS NOT EVENLY ON THE LOCAL LEVEL. ALL THE WAY FROM DC WITH PRODUCTS THAT ARE FREE. NOT CHARGED BY AN OUTSIDE ANALYST COMPANY. THE LOCAL 754 UNION LEADERS OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN, I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A TARGET ON OUR BACK, UNFORTUNATELY. I WILL NOT JAYWALK IN THIS CITY. I WILL NOT ACCEPT THE FREE CUP OF COFFEE FROM A VENDOR. BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE ARE HELD AT IS FAR BEYOND ANY OTHER POSITION I HAVE EVER SEEN. I NEVER FELT THAT WAY IN 21 YEARS. BUT I AM FOLLOWING PUT IT ON RECORD. -- I AM WILLING TO PUT IT ON RECORD. WE ARE SWORN TO PROTECT AND SERVE THIS PUBLIC. AND AS I STAND HERE TODAY, I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE LIFE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS, THE VISITORS, THE WORKING CONDITIONS OF THIS LOCAL WERE, THE SAFETY CONDITIONS OF THIS LOCAL, AND THE -- PROTECTED BARGAINING RIGHTS THAT ARE SIGNED BY THE CITY, THE ADMINI ADMINISTRATION, AND THE FIRE UNION. THOSE ARE ALL -- THOSE ARE ALL COLLECTIVE RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE. THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. WE HAVE 181 F-12 OR F-12-W LABELED CALLS. NOW IN FIRE TERMS, THAT MEANS WE ARE RESPONDING TO A STRUCTURE FIRE. WHEN IT PUTS A "W" CONTINUE TO, THAT MEANS WE ARE GOING TO A CONFIRMED WORKING FIRE AND WE WILL BE ENTERING AN IDEAL ENVIRONMENT. OUR DEPARTMENT SINCE JANUARY 1 HAS OPINION DIRECTORS PATCHED TO 118 OF THOSE TYPE CALLS. IN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT STARTED OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ARE GUARANTEED BUNKER GEAR. A SECOND SET. FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS LOCAL TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM CANCERS THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE AT A HIGHER RATE OF GETTING. LIKE I SAID, I WILL STAND HERE UNTIL -- UNTIL I AM BLUE IN THE FACE FIGHTING FOR THE SAFETY AND WELLNESS OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ELECTED ME TO BE HERE. THOSE PIECES OF GEAR WERE MANUFACTURED. THEY SIT ON A SUPPLY RACK IN THE SUPPLY DIVISION, NOT ISSUED TO ITS PERSONNEL BECAUSE IT IS MORE CONVENIENT. AND THAT IS DOCUMENTED IN LABOR MANAGEMENT. IT IS MORE CONVENIENT TO ROLL THAT OUT AS A BIG PROGRAM. INCIDENTALLY, THE MANUFACTURE DATE STARTS THE CLOCK ON WHEN THAT GEAR EXPIRES. SO LITERALLY WE ARE TAKING LIFE SAFETY COMPONENT, PUTTING IT ON A SHELF, WAITING FOR THE CONVENIENCE TO DELIVER IT TO THE FIRE FIGHTERS OF THIS CITY TO SAY, YEAH, IT WILL BE EASIER TO MANAGE IF WE JUST DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME WHILE IT SITS THERE AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON ITS EXPLORATION. TO ME, THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF THOSE FIRE FIGHTERS BY NOT PROVIDING THEM WITH THAT GEAR, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE 181 NEEDILY DANGEROUS TO LIFE AND HEALTH SITUATIONS THEY HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED ON I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I AM NORMALLY PRO EVERYBODY. AND THAT IS GOING ON. THIS IS MY THIRD TIME ADDRESSING IT. AND I FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE VOICED. I HAVE THE RESPECT AND UPMOST UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CHIEF IS DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN. WE HAVE WORKED FORWARD ON OTHER THINGS. WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE STATION OUT THERE. GLAD TO HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT ORDERED. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, IT IS JUST THAT WE ARE NOT MOVING IN EMERGENCY DIRECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: DID CHIEF TRIPP WANT TO SAY? >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK SHE SHOULD GO FIRST. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, BUT I WANT TO COMMENT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I AM NOT HERE TO SPREAD ANY NEGATIVE PAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT -- THE MEN AND WOMEN OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WORK HARD EVERY DAY. CERTAINS I HAVE BEEN IN THIS ADMINISTRATION THREE YEARS AGO, THIS ADMINISTRATION THE FEW SO HARD AND BUST OUR BUTT TO MAKE SURE MEN AND WOMEN OF FIRE RESCUE ARE TAKEN CARE OF. WHEN LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE -- WHEN I GOT IN THIS POSITION, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS ON A DO YOU KNOWHELL. THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS SLOWED THAT AND WE ARE ON THE UPHILL. THIS ADMINISTRATION SHUT NOT TAKE THE FACT OF MANUFACTURED SITUATIONS, DELAY WHEN IT COMES TO EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE PUT EVERYTHING TO THE FOREFRONT AND PUSHING FORWARD WHEN WE TALK THE DEFICIT, YES, WE ARE BEHIND. NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION'S FAULT. WE ARE TAKING IT AND MOVING FORWARD WITH IT TO HAVE THE OUTDATED VEHICLES AND C.A.D. SYSTEM THAT IS 28 YEARS OLD. WHEN I GOT IN THIS POSITION, A C.A.D. SYSTEM ALREADY IN PLAY AND I ENDED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE FOR THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A NEW C.A.D. SYSTEM AND AS EVERYTHING, IT TAKES TIME AND THIS IS GOING UP. WE TALK OF THE MASTER PLAN. YES, WE NEED A MASTER PLAN. AS YOU KNOW FROM THE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST CERTAIN THINGS WE NEED TO STABILIZE BEFORE WE CAN SIT HERE. WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ARE THE DEFENSE THE CITY TO ADDRESS THAT COMES UP IN THE MASTER PLAN. ONCE WE GET THESE VEHICLES IN PLACE AND GET THEM WHERE WE NEED TO BE, AS WELL A MASTER PLAN TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THAT SHEET, WE RECEIVED THREE RESCUE -- SORRY, THREE ENGINES. WE RECEIVED A TILLER IN THE PROGRESS OF BEING PRODUCTIVE NOW. RECEIVED TWO HEAVY RESCUES. RECEIVED TEN OF THE 15 RESCUE CARDS. WE RECEIVED TWO OF THE AMBLE BUSES THAT ARE READY TO ROLL. AND WE HAVE BEEN USING THEM. AND A LOT OF THAT THAT WAS DONE IN '21 IS COMING TO FRUITION IN '24. NOT IN ADMINISTRATION'S FAULT THAT THE MANUFACTURER SAID WE CAN'T GET TO IT. WE HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THE TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS COMMUNICATION, AS WELL AS WHAT THE VENDORS HAVE OUT THIS. WE ARE TALKING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, TPD HAVING CERTAIN PLANS -- THEY HAVE CERTAIN PLATFORMS THAT IS TECHNOLOGY THAT TAMPA FIRE DID NOT HAVE. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS INCLUDIG TNI TO TRY TO GET THOSE DATA-BASED PLATFORMS IN POSITION. I WILL GO BACK TO OUR TRAINING. WE NEVER HAD VECTOR SOLUTION WHICH IS A TREND TO -- IT IS A TRAINING PLATFORM THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME OF OUR DEFICIT TO HELP US WITH THE ISO RATING. ONE OF THE LAST LARGE CITIES TO GET THAT. AND OF COURSE THAT COMPANY LIVES IN OUR BACK YARD. THIS ADMINISTRATION MADE SURE WE GOT THAT, OKAY. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING OTHER EQUIPMENT TO GET THAT DAY TO HAVE THAT PLATFORM. WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING STATIONS AND RESCUE CALLS OUT THE THERE. CALL VOLUME. WE HAD MANY WOMEN AND WOMEN SAY WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE AND WE SEE A CHANGE AND IT IS GOING FORWARD. I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOU. MANISCALCO JOHNTHAN AHEAD COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: CHIEF AND DONNIE AND YOUR REMARKS. WITH THE MASTER PLAN, WE FUNDED THAT IN THE BUDGET. I WAS GOING TO ASK CHIEF BENNETT ON THE STATUS OF THAT. THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN IS A REPORT THAT IS PROFESSIONALLY DONE AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT. I WILL ASK THAT AT THE END, IF I MAY. FUNNY, THE BIG THING I SENSE FOR YOURSELF, MADAM AND 754 IS A REAL SENSE OF URGENCY. I THINK THERE IS A MISSION THAT STIPULATED FOR THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING BEHIND FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND THAT WE ALSO MADE GOOD PROGRESS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE COUPLE OF DECADES OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE OF NOT ADDRESSING CERTAIN ISSUES. I NEVER LIKE TO LOOK BACKWARDS, BUT DEALING WITH PRESENT ISSUES, YOU GOT TO LOOK BACKWARDS, RIGHT. BEFORE WE TALK OF THE DEFICITS WE HAVE NOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO TALK OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE TOGETHER. WORKED TOGETHER ON FIRE STATION 25. REAL SENSE OF URGENCY. PUT FORWARD FA FIRE STATION 25. FUNDED 20 23, THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN THAT GO FORWARD WHICH IS GREAT. NEW VEHICLES IN EAST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA, ETC. A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME PROGRESS. WHEN YOU SURVEY. BY THE WAY I THINK THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO SAY AND THE UNION AND THE FIRE CHIEF AGREE ON. I THINK THERE IS FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH AS MUCH VIGOR AS SOME FOLKS BELIEVE WE SHOULD. BUT I THINK THE CRISES EVERYBODY AGREES ON. LOOK AT NORTH TAMPA, STATION 13, THEED BUSIEST STATION IN THE CI OF TAMPA. YOU ARE SEEING ADVANCEMENT IN THIS. I AM NOW TOLD THAT 1 IS THE BUSIEST STATION. NEW TAMPA, A BIG CHALLENGE WITH THE RESPONSE TIMES. WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST A STATION FOR K-BAR RANCH. PUT THAT ON HOLD AND SOMETHING I WILL ASK YOU ABOUT AT THE END IF I MAY, ALTERNATIVE AS CUT-THRU FOR MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD AND ADDITIONAL VEHICLE ON THE STATION AT MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD AND CROSS CREEK. FLEET MAINTENANCE. SK I WILL ASK OF THAT. MOVING THAT OUT THE STATION 9, IT WILL BETTER REMEMBER SPOND TO THE NEEDS IN WEST TAMPA. WEST TAMPA, WE ARE SEEING TONS OF NEW HOUSING OUT THERE. HOW IS STATION 9 GOING TO BE ACCOMMODATED. I WILL ASK YOU THAT, MA'AM, TO BUILD ON THAT DOWNTOWN TAMPA BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IN MY OPINION IS DOWNTOWN TAMPA. THAT IS HUGE. 20 YEARS AGO DOWNTOWN TAMPA WAS SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT IT IS TODAY. THEY HAD ONE FIRE STATION. TODAY, SAME FIRE STATION. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND I KNOW YOU AGREE WITH THAT, MA'AM, 100%. YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE NEWS. ELLIOTT BEING BUILT IN CHANNELSIDE. 40,000-SQUARE-FOOT SOCIAL CLUB. UNITS WITH ER, TAMPA TOWER. YOU CONTINUE TO BUILD. AND I AM GLAD FOR CHANNELSIDE. A GREAT TAMPA SUCCESS STORY, BUT WHERE IS THE ADDITIONAL FIRE PRESENCE? RIGHT? AND, AGAIN, WE ALL AGREE ON THAT, I THINK. WHERE IS THE ADDITIONAL FIRE PRESENCE? I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY IS THAT CONTINUED SENSE OF URGENCY, TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST AND WORKING TOGETHER TO KEEP IT MOVING WITH VIGOR. WHEN I HEARD DONNIE SPEAK -- I WAS REMINDED IN THE FAMOUS SPEECH OF JOE GRECO THAT I REPLAYED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THAT SAID, WE NEED URGENCY. WE NEED URGENCY. TO WORK TOGETHER TO MEET THAT. THE BIG THING IS REVENUE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? I PROPOSED THE ISSUE OF BONDING AND 24 AND THE FLEET MAINTENANCE STATION. IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, THIS IS NOT A PARK IN IS A DESIRE AND BOY, WE WANT THAT, WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE. THIS WE ALL AGREE IS 100% IN NEED. WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE HAVE TO DO SO. WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT FEES. I AM ALL FOR IT. WE COULD HAVE PASSED IT FOUR YEARS AGO. WE NEVER DID. WE BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN. THOSE ARE GREAT. BUT NARROWLY TAILORED IN IMPACT FEE. VERY NARROWLY TAILORED. WICK LOOK AT -- WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA. THAT IS OFF THE TABLE. WE ARE ALL SPENT UP UNTIL 2028. NUMBER TWO HAVE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR THAT. THAT IS OFF THE TABLE. WE TALKED OF MILLAGE, LOOKING AT OTHER STOUFOURCES OF REVENUE. AND WHEN I BRING THIS UP, WE NEED TO THINK OF A DEDICATE HUMID FUNDING SOURCE -- AS LONG AS I AM IN OFFICE I WILL CONTINUE TO BEAT ON THIS DRUM. A DEDICATED FUNDING SOUSHS. NOBODY WANTS TO BRING THAT UP. NOBODY WANTS TOO TALK OF HIGHER TAXES. ASK WALTER MONDALE. YOU HAVE TO DO IT AND YOU CAN'T USE LEMONADE STANDS TO SAY HAIL MARYS TO BUILD FIRE STATION AND HIRE NEW COPS ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH OUR REVENUE CHALLENGES. I WILL ASK A NUMBER QUESTIONS IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR. BUT AT THE END HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES COME BACK US TO, SPECIFICALLY THE ISSUE OF FLEET MAINTENANCE STATION. I WILL ASK YOU THAT, CHIEF, IF I MAY, THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, THE STATUS OF 24, CHANNELSIDE AND THE PUBLIC MASTER SAFETY PLAN ITSELF. WE FUNDED THAT LAST SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? AGAIN, I WANT ALL OF OUR SHIPS SAILING IN THE SAME DIRECTION SO TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE. I THINK ALL OF OUR INTENT IS THERE. AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHALLENGES. I WON'T GET IN SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT OF THE SENSE OF URGENCY. WE HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS IN THE PAST BUT BEAT ON THIS DRUM TOGETHER TO GET THOSE THINGS ESPECIALLY FOR CHANNELSIDE, FLEET MAINTENANCE, NATION NUMBER 24, EMPTYING UP STATION 9 TO MEET THE NEED OF WEST TAMPA. SO IF I MAY, REALLY FAST, CHIEF BENNETT, MAY I ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR? THANK YOU. BEFORE I ASK CHIEF TRIPP. CHIEF BENNETT, IF YOU WERE NOT PREPARED -- I DID NOT DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU BEFORE. BUT THE PUBLIC MASTER PLAN ITSELF, WE FUNDED IN THE BUDGET. SAND I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO REPORT ON THAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IF YOU NEED MORE TIME. DO YOU KNOW THE STATUS OF THE ACTUAL REPORT. >>JOHN BENNETT: OUTSIDE -- JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. OUTSIDE OF FUNDING OUT OF THE BUDGET, BOTH CHIEFS NEED TO GIVE US A STATE OF READINESS. IT IS THEIR MASTER PLAN. THE WAY I LOOK AT MASTER PLANS OVER THE YEARS. WHAT IS OUR REVENUE STREAM? WHAT IS THE GAP ANALYSIS FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE? I UNDERSTAND FROM CHIEF TRIPP SHE IS TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF STABILIZATION WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ASSETS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ORDERED TO DO THE DATA BACKGROUND WITH A GAP ANALYSIS. I HAVE SEEN AGENCIES IN FOXHOLES BEFORE. I THINK THE PRESIDENT MAY BACK ME UP, EVERY TIME WE TALK. I SAY HOW DID WE GET HERE AND HOW DO WE GET OUT OF HERE. I THINK IT IS A COMBINATION AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER TO STREAM UPSTREAM. YES, I THINK THAT BOTH CHIEFS HAVE TO REPORT ON THAT AND THEIR STATE OF READINESS OF EACH DEPARTMENT. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR. CHIEF TRIPP, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ARE YOU GOING TO TALK OF THE STATUS OF THE FUNDING REPORT? >>CHIEF TRIPP: FUNDING? >>LUIS VIERA: WE FUNDED IN THE 2023 BUDGET, FUNDING FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR, I AM NOT PREPARED FOR THAT. >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALL RIGHT, MA'AM. I CAN TO THAT. REAL QUICK, WITH NEW TAMPA -- I KNOW YOUR WRITTEN REPORT AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT -- IT TALKS OF THE ALTERNATIVES WE ARE LOOKING AT CUTTING DOWN ON SAFETY AND RESPONSE TIMES ESPECIALLY IN THE K-BAR RANCH AREA. >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS PRETTY MUCH DISCUSSED BEFORE, THE BIG CONCERN IS GETTING IN K-BAR. AND ONE OF THE FASTEST AND URGENCY WAY TO HAVE UNITS THERE IS ACCESS OFF OF MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD. I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH MOBILITY. AND, OF COURSE, I SENT THE LAST MAP. AND I GUESS IT IS SOME SORT OF CODES THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND MAINTAIN ACCESS ON THAT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MY PLAN IS TO TRANSPORT UNIT IN THE AREA TO HELP OUT, BECAUSE CURRENTLY STATION 21 IS THE CLOSEST RESCUE TRANSPORT UNIT TO K-BAR RANCH. I WANTED TO PUT ONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO HELP OUT WITH RESPONSE TIME. IF 21 IS OUT, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER TRANSPORT UNIT IN THAT AREA. SO I THINK WITH TIME PAUSE, OF COURSE, BUILDING A STATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT FIVE, SIX YEARS IT WILL TAKE TIME. THE QUICKEST WAYS TO GET ACCESS OFF OF MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD AND REASONS TO PART UNIT IN THE STATIO STATION. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM FOR THAT. STATION 24. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE PROPERTY THERE. WHERE ARE WE AT BUILDING A FORESEEABLE TIMELINE? >>CHIEF TRIPP: WE ACTUALLY PREPARED -- GET EVERYTHING TOGETHER WITH THE RFP. WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE AND DEFINITELY IN THE WORKS. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE CONTRACT ADMIN TO SET UP TIME. WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO START WITH THE EVALUATION AND SCORING FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT PROJECT. IT IS FAST MOVING. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MAMMOGRAM. DO YOU -- I AM NOT GOING TO HOLD IT TO YOU -- BUT DO YOU THINK -- TIME GOES BY SO FAST. MAY 2025, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING UP? >>CHIEF TRIPP: HAVE SOMETHING UP OR BREAKING GROUND. >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S JUST SAY BREAKING GROUND. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I HOPE WE CAN BREAK GROUND THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT IS MY HOPE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE FINE DETAILS AS FAR AS APPROVAL AND STUFF, BUT MY GOAL -- IF I COULD BUILD IT YESTERDAY, I WOULD HAVE. >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE, I GET THAT. FLEET MAINTENANCE. HOW DO WE DO WITH PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR THAT. >>CHIEF TRIPP: DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY. WORKING WITH TREEREAL ESTATE FO PROPERTY. WE WANT TO COMBINE THE FLEET WITH SUPPLY TO MAKE SURE IT IS MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHEN THEY HAVE TO SWITCH VEHICLES. I AM LOOKING FOR PROPERTY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE OF THE MESSAGE THAT COUNCIL WILL SAY, WE PUT FORTH THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT. EVERYTHING IS READY TO FLY. LET'S -- AND, AGAIN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. WITH BE REGARD TO CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN TAMPA, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE POSSIBLE REMEDIES FOR THE CHALLENGES WE SEE OUT THERE. AGAIN, TONS OF BUILDING OUT TH THERE. STEP OUT TO CHANNELSIDE A WHOLE LITTLE CITY OUT THERE. WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES AND REMEDIES? >>CHIEF TRIPP: I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF PROPERTY. BUILDING WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS, I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO SOME SORT OF SUBSTATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, WOULD IT BE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT THE NEEDS IS, BUT I AM DEFINITELY WORKING ON THAT. MY PLAN IS ALSO TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO HELP OUT THE CURRENT STATION, AS WELL AS THE PORT OF TAMPA AS WELL ONCE WE PUT IN THIS SERVICE. IT WILL STABILIZE PUTTING A BAND-AID TO FIND CONCRETE RESOURCES TO PUT A STATION IN AND SOME RESOURCES IN. LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND SOMETHING I NEED GET WITH UM, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION IF I MAY. WEST TAMPA AND STATION 9. WHEN WILL WE GET FLEET MAINTENANCE OUT OF THERE. WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS, FOR STATION 9 AND INCREASING NEEDS OF TAMPA. >> I NEED TO GET FLEET OUT OF THERE. BECAUSE STATION 9 WAS BUILT BACK IN '58 AND BUILT FOR ONE APPARATUS. WE HAVE THREE. BASICALLY STUFFED IN. THERE I WOULD LIKE TO TEAR THE STATION TOWN AND BUILD A FOUR OR FIVE BASE STATION SO THE UNITS CAN RUN OUT APPROPRIATELY AND PREDICT FOR FUTURE WE HAD TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. ONE OF THE THINGS I SEE BACK IN THE 50s YOU NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COMBINING RESCUE WITH FIRE. AND, OF COURSE, THAT TOOK PLACE. A LOT OF STATIONS ARE BUILT FOR ONE APPARATUS. SO TWO BAY THERE IS NOW. OF COURSE THE TRUCKS ARE BACKED UP, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TEAR A STATION DOWN AND BUILD AT LEAST A FOUR OR FIVE-BAY STATION. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CHIEF. I WILL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END IF THEY WANT TO MAKE OTHER MOTIONS AND THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL. AND NICK STOCCO CAME IN LATE. HE IS PRESIDENT OF 754. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN WAS FIRST. THEN CARLSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR BEING HERE TODAY. AND THANK YOU FOR 754 AS WELL FOR A GOOD PRESENTATION. K-BAR, I APPRECIATE YOUR MEMO AND THE CREATIVE APPROACHES FOR THIS. TRYING TO RESOLVE RESPONSE TIMES FOR VEHICLES, I THINK IT IS CREATIVE AND UP APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHT IN ADDRESSING THAT SITUATION. I AGREE WITH -- I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. IMPACT FEE. I AGREE WU COUNCILMAN VIERA. LIKE FOOL'S GOLD. IT WON'T SOLVE OUR PROBLEM. OUR FIRE SERVICE IS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE HAVE FALLEN WOEFULLY BEHIND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AS FAR AS INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEEDS. AND YOU DEFINITELY WALKED INTO A SITUATION WHERE THE NEEDS HAVE BEEN GREAT AND THE RESOURCES HAVE BEEN FEW. AND YOU ARE TRYING BALANCE OUT THAT. AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND AND YOU HAVEN'T EXPRESSED THAT BECAUSE YOU HELD YOUR STOVE A LEVEL OF DIGNITY YOU SET THESE PLANS IN PLACE. AND SEEDS HAVE BEEN PLANTED. YOU HAVEN'T REAPED A CROP AND THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION AND AREN'T THERE YET. FRUSTRATION AND YOU WILL NEED THE FRUSTRATION OF ALL THE SITUATION. DEDICATED FUNDING. I DON'T KNOW, WE ARE THE FUNDING AND I THINK IF WE HAVE THE WILL, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDING TO DO THIS. I SUPPORTED A MILLAGE INCREASE BECAUSE OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT HERE TODAY. WHERE OUR ROADS ARE, WHERE OUR FIRE STATION IS, WHERE OUR TRANSPORTATION IS AND POLICE IS, WE HAVE ALL THESE UNMET NEEDS. AND I THINK THERE IS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DENIAL AMONGST FOLKS HOW FAR A DOLLAR CAN GO IN 2024-'25. IT IS NOT -- NOT AS STRONG AS IT USED TO BE. LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE -- YOU SPOKE ABOUT MOVING THE FACILITIES. CHIEF AND ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY WHO HAS INPUT ON THIS. I THINK AS WE LOOK AT MOVING THIS FACILITY OF FLEET MAINTENANCE AND ALL, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT COLLOCATING POSSIBLY WITH THE FACILITIES WE HAVE AT LOWRY PARK. AND MAYBE AS WE LOOK AT THAT AS CREATIVE WAY OF COMBINING THAT AND FUEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH CITY VEHICLES. A WASTED OPPORTUNITY. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK THAT THE TOGETHER GET IT DONE AND ACCOMPLISH -- TWO BITES OF AN APPLE. HOPEFULLY COMBINE THAT FACILITY. BETWEEN WORKING TOGETHER AS A CITY, WE CAN GET THAT DONE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS THAT KNOW MY BACKGROUND. I CAME IN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL. AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE TIME WHEN UNIONIZED EMPLOYEES WERE TERMINATED BY THE THEN PRESIDENT. WE CAME IN AND A TENSE AND FRUSTRATING TIME. NOTHING WAS GETTING DONE. VACUUM TUBE TECHNOLOGY. SO MANY THINGS BEHIND AT THE TIME. BECAUSE WE CAME FROM -- IT WAS CONFLICTED WORKPLACE. AND I THINK LUIS VIERA TALKED OF EVERYBODY IN THE SAME BOAT, SAILING IN THE SAME DIRECTION TOGETHER. ANY TIME OFF THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, IT DOESN'T SERVE ANYBODY WELL. DOESN'T SERVE YOU WELL AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR YOU WELL. DOESN'T SERVE THE CITY OF TAMPA WELL. SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY -- I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL GOING TO A ROPES COURSE -- BUT YOU ALL GETTING IN THAT SAME BOAT WITH 574 -- 754 AND PUTTING THE PAST ISSUES BEHIND AND HOW ALL OF YOU CAN GET TOGETHER AND WORK IN THAT SAME DIRECTION. EVERYTHING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP TODAY AND 754 HAS BROUGHT UP TODAY AND COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS BROUGHT UP CAN BE SOLVED BY YOUR LEADERSHIP, 754'S LEADERSHIP AND THE WILL OF THE REST OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. I THINK WE ARE VERY CAPABLE OF DOING IT. AND I THINK WE CAN DO IT MUCH QUICKER IF WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND PEDDLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. I URGE YOU AS THE -- AS THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID IN THIS ORGANIZATION TO DIG DEEP WHEREVER YOU ARE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF AMENDING SOME OF THOSE FENCES AND BRINGING EVERYBODY ON BOARD AND HOPEFULLY -- WHEN WE SIT HERE NEXT WEEK, WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER 30-SECOND PRESENTATION A BY THEM AND REALLY MOVE FORWARD AND GET A LOT OF IN STUFF ACCOMPLISHED. I AM VERY ADMIRABLE OF EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. I FORGOT TO MENTION ONE THING. DOWNTOWN CHANNELSIDE. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CHANNELSIDE -- THE DOWNTOWN STATION IS BIG ENOUGH AND CLOSE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE -- WE HAVE LAND THERE TO ACCOMMODATE TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND SERVICES. BECAUSE, I MEAN THE DISTANCE -- YOU THROW YOUR CIRCLE AROUND THAT FIRE STATION ONE, YOU JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF CHANNELSIDE, WATER STREET DOWNTOWN STILL WITHIN YOUR PLAN AND IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE USING IS THAT REAL ESTATE THAT WE CURRENTLY POSSESSED AND EXPANDING THAT. IS THAT STILL YOUR IDEA CIRCUMSTANCES? OR ARE YOU REALLY LOOKING TO ADD ANOTHER FIRE STATION. >>CHIEF TRIPP: YOU SAY "REAL ESTATE" WHERE STATION ONE IS CURRENTLY? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT. BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE SERVICE AND GROWTH DOWNTOWN. >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE CONVERSATION -- YES, I DID MENTION THAT BEFORE. THE CONVERSATION IF WE TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY WITH POLICE AND FIRE AND COMBINE IT TOGETHER, WE CAN RELEASE THOSE OFFICERS T EXTENSION WITH THE GARAGE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. TO TAKE THOSE VEHICLES THAT ARE SITTING THERE AND NOT IN SERVICE TO ADD MORE RESOURCE THERE IS CURRENTLY AS A STOP THE BLEED TYPE DEAL NOW. THAT IS THE PLAN WITH THE CONVERSATION GOES WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN OR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, THEN, FIRE WILL MOVE HEADQUARTERS AND -- CLENDENIN INCLUDING ADDITIONAL BAYS SOMEBODY IN TRIPP INCLUDING ADDITIONAL BAYS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THAT YOU IS WHERE WE WERE AT. >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS I SAID, WE DIDN'T MOVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, CHIEF TRIPP. FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE, THANK TO MY COLLEAGUE, LUIS VIERA, FOR TAKING A LEAD ON THIS AND SPENDING SO MUCH TIME STUDYING THE ISSUE. THE GOOD THING IS WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT AREA OF EXPERTISE AND HE HAS REALLY DEEP EXPERTISE IN THAT. AND IT IS GREAT TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US. BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WANT TO BE SAFE. AND LUCKILY THEY DON'T HAVE TO THINK OF THIS VERY OFTEN, WHEN YOU DIAL 911, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY COMES AND AVAILABLE AND GETS THERE PAST. EVERY SECOND SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME. CHIEF TRIPP THERE ARE YOUR -- COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS TALKING ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP, BEING THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID. I KNOW TALKING TO SOME OF YOUR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT YOU ARE LAUDED AS A GREAT LEADER. YOU HAVE GREAT PEOPLE WORKING FOR YOU. BUT YOU ARE NOT -- IN THE CITY YOU ARE NOT QUITE THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID. YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THIS DEPARTMENT. YOU DON'T REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL. WE APPROVE THE BUDGETS, BUT YOU REPORT, I THINK, TO THE MAYOR. BUT JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE ELSE, DO YOU REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR OR THE CHIEF OF STAFF OR BOTH OR IS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE YOU REPORT TO? >>CHIEF TRIPP: MY DIRECT REPORT IS TO MAYOR, MAYOR JANE CASTOR. I CONVERSATE WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF WITH CERTAIN CONCERNS OF MY DIVISION AND MY APARTMENT. >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY ELSE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO HIT THE TIMELINE ON SOMETHING. ONE OR BOTH OF THEM -- I AM SURE THE MAYOR CAN VETO. CAN THE CHIEF OF STAFF VETO WHAT YOU ARE DOING. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I INFORM THEM WITH PLANS FOR THE FIRE SERVICE. THEY GIVE ME YAY OR NAY AND POINTERS. >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY ELSE WITH THAT KIND OF POWER, OR JUST THE TWO OF THEM? >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, SIR, THAT'S ALL I KNOW OF. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. AND -- I THINK IT -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE SHE IS AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE. SHE AND THE MAYOR MAKING DECISIONS AND CHIEF OF STAFF, AS YOU SAID, IS INVOLVED IN SOME OF IT. IF THE UNION IS GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, IT SHOULD BE WITH THE THREE OF YOU, NOT TO DISRESPECT YOUR POSITION AT ALL, BUT IF YOU AGREE 100%. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE MAYOR, FOR EXAMPLE. AND THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF STAFF. AND SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES THAT THE FOLKS TALKED ABOUT. BUT ON SOMETHING LIKE THE MASTER PLAN, WITH THAT -- WOULD THAT -- WOULD IF BE 100% YOUR DECISION AS COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS ASKING. 100% YOUR POSITION AFTER WE APPROVE THE FUNDING WILL YOU BE DECIDED ON YOUR WORKLOAD THAT YOU NEED TO DO IT FARTHER IN THE FUTURE? OR A POSSIBILITY THAT ONE OF THE OTHER TWO SAID THIS ISN'T IMPORTANT. PUT IT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. >>CHIEF TRIPP: NO, TO BE HONEST WU, I SHOULD HAVE THAT AUTHORITY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. ONE OF MY CONCERNS I EXPRESSED WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE MAYOR TRYING TO GET THESE RESOURCES OUT. THE MASTER PLAN WE WERE GOING TO CREATE -- BUT IT WASN'T LIKE A PROFESSIONAL TYPE MASTER PLAN. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT, NOVEMBER PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT MASTER PLAN. YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD? HOW CAN WE PREDICT FOR THE CALLS. WITH THE FUNDINGS. THE STATIONS AND WHERE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE LOW THE CAPED. YES, A MASTER PLAN STHP BASED ON THE ANALYSIS WE ENDS UP GIVING, A LOT OF THAT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND TO STABILIZE THE DEFICIT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MASTER PLAN. NO, HE THEY DIDN'T TELL ME NOT TO DO THE MASTER PLAN. >>BILL CARLSON: IS A CONSULTANT HIRED TO HELP WU THE MASTER PLAN? >>CHIEF TRIPP: OF THE MASTER PLAN? NO, I WILL TAKE FORWARD WITH THAT BECAUSE I DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU NEED A CONSULTANT. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I AM GOING TO REACH A CONSULTANT TO GET THIS DONE. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THINGS. I HAD A BUNCH OF I'M IN THE COMMUNITY THAT LOVED AND RESPECTED AND SAY THE PERSON THEY ARE DEALING WHAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE PUBLIC AND SOMEONE SEES THAT YOU AND THE UNION NOT AGREEING TO EACH OTHER. ENCOURAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY MONTHS AGO I MET WU AND TALKED TO THE UNION. I TALKED TO YOU ON BOTH SIDES, IT SEEMS TO ME YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH SAYING THE SAME ANYTHING. SOME OTHER DISCONNECT THAT THAT I KNOW ABOUT. WHEN Y'ALL COME BEFORE US, IT LOOKS LIKE MORE DISSAY AGREEMENT THAN REALLY IT SHOULD BE. I AM HOPEFUL THAT THERE IS A WAY TO BRIDGE THIS GAP. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MY COLLEAGUES ARE IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO HELP WITH THAT. PLEASE LET US KNOW. TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS, THE CHANNEL DISTRICT -- I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. AND YOUR RESPONSE BACK WAS NO NO, WE CAN'T DO. THE BUSINESS JOURNAL THOUGHT THEY WOULD EMBARRASS ME IN DOING A STORY. I TALKED TO THE PARTIES. YES AN EXISTING LEASE ON THE PARKING LOT. THERE ARE THE VOTES -- I BELIEVE THERE ARE VOTES IN THE PORT AUTHORITY BOARD THAT MAY OR MAY NOT. AND WE CAN PUSH THIS FORWARD AND THE CURRENT TENANT SAY WE ARE OKAY TAKING AWAY THAT LEAD. WE ARE HOPING TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE. THERE IS NO LAND IN CHANNEL DISTRICT. I HOPE THAT WHOEVER WAS AGAINST IT WILL COME BACK AND TALK TO US. PORT ANYTHING THAT THE CITY WANTS US TO PROTECT THEIR MARITIME LAND. WE COULD HOPE TO SAVE IT. I KNOW I AM OUT OF TOWN, BUT I WANT TO MARY FROM THE UNION WHAT ELSE WE CAN TO DO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN YOU. BUT I WILL YIELD MY TIME. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHIEF TRIPP, HOW ARE YOU? >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD. YOURSELF. >>GWEN HENDERSON: UP KNOW THE TOP-DOWN APPROACH TO LEADERSHIP CAN BE CHALLENGING AT TIMES. LISTENING TO THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL AS WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, I GET THE IMPRESSION AND JUST MY CONCLUSION THAT YOU ARE PUT IN THE MOST DIFFICULT DECISION BECAUSE THE MAYOR OF WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AS THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE PEOPLE YOU ARE SERVING, THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP. AND I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE MAYBE YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO SAY BECAUSE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO THE PERSON YOU REPORT TO. I AM JUST GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT THERE IS SOME MEDIAN WHERE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION IN A WAY IT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE MORE TRANSPARENT. DOESN'T SEEM TO BE TO ME. I WILL SAY, THAT I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN KNOWING OF THE ACTUAL PERSONNEL IS THERE -- ARE YOU UNDERSTAFFED. I LOOK AT THE EMPLOYMENT UNDER OUR OPEN COMPETITIVE LISTING OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. ONLY LISTING FOR EXTERNAL FOR A PART-TIME FIRE INSPECTOR. EVERYTHING ELSE IS INTERNAL FROM HIRING FROM WITHIN. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF BEING A SURPLUS FOR THE BUDGET FOR STAFFING. >> WEAR LESS THAN 5% WITH OUR VACANCY RATE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE NUMBER FOR 5%, CHIEF TRIPP? 20 PEOPLE? >>CHIEF TRIPP: LET ME -- I WANT TO PROBABLY SAY 30 PEOPLE. PROBABLY 30 PEOPLE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY. >>CHIEF TRIPP: CURRENTLY WE ACTUALLY STAFF 235 PEOPLE PER SHIFT. WITH KELLY DAYS, R DAYS AND, OF COURSE, UNSCHEDULED LEAVE. THAT BRINGS THE NUMBERS DOWN. WHEN YOU TALK OF 162 PEOPLE ON AND WE HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE CALL OUT. LIKE CERTAIN DAYS OF A WEEK WE HAVE 20, 30, 40 PEOPLE CALLING OUT ON THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED LEAVE. THAT SAID, WE HAVE THE PEOPLE BUT WHERE WHERE ARE THEY. ARE THEY KELLY. WE SUB FOR THAT. A MINIMUM STANDARD -- MINIMUM STAFFING IS 165 NOW AND HAVE 233 -- 235 PEOPLE SCHEDULED PER SHIFT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: TELL ME OF THE HIRING IN TERMS OF -- WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT? >>CHIEF TRIPP: SO THE HIRING -- WE ACTUALLY JUST OPENED THIS THE JOB DESCRIPTION UP IN THE FIRST OF THE YEAR SO WE JUST BROUGHT ON 14 PERSONNEL. THEY CAME OUT I WANT TO SAY APRIL -- THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL. OUT ON THE STREETS, 14 OF THEM. JUNE 1 WE WILL OPEN THIS UP AGAIN. SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, WE HIRED THREE TO FOUR GROUPS PER YEAR WITH THE SAFER GRANT. THE ASSISTANT FIRE FIGHTER GRANT AND ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL. WE HAVE OPINION HIRING. WE GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE DIFFERENT STOOLS, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGES, ALL OF THAT AND TRY TO PROMOTE. WE HAVE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH OUR HIRING AND LOOKING TO HAVE MORE APPLICANTS. I WANT TO SAY WE ARE LESS THAN 30 MINUTES TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS YOUR UNION AWARE OF THAT. THEY UNDERSTAND THERE IS A TRAINING CLASS JUST ENDED AND A NEW TRAINING CLASS. AND WHEN THEY PRESENT IT THEY ACT LIKE YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB. ARE THEY AWARE OF THE NUMBERS WITH NEW HIRES AND THE PLAN. >>CHIEF TRIPP: ONCE AGAIN WITH ME BEING THE LEADER AND BEING VERY RESPECTIVE PAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE TO AIR YOUR LAUNDRY, I HAVE MORE THAN ONE TIME TRYING TO COMMUNICATE, IF SOMETIMES -- I PUT THE INFORMATION OUT THERETO IF YOU ASK FOR IT, BUT BEING TARGETED IS KIND OF HARD TO CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, WITH CERTAIN THINGS. SO MY THING IS THAT I JUST KEEP GOING AND TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEPARTMENT, WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND JUST HIRE THE PERSONNEL. AND PUT BUTTS IN THE SEATS AND PUT THE SAFETY OUT THERE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN. VEHICLES, ALL OF THAT. SO -- I AM SORRY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU EVER AT A TIME REFUSE TO MEET WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF YOUR UNION? >>. >>CHIEF TRIPP: NEVER, NEVER. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MEETING HE SPOKE ABOUT THAT YOU HAD TO CANCEL WAS CONFLICT BECAUSE OF A PARTICULAR MEETING. >> IT WAS A MEETING OF A CONFERENCE -- A CONFERENCE I HAD TO ATTEND THIS WEEK. PERSONNEL WAS THERE. WE WENT OVER THE LIST OF THE AGENDA OF ITEMS THAT WERE GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT. AND A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION WAS DISPLAYED TO THEM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: AGAIN, WHEN THEY STOOD UP JUST BEFORE YOU, THEY PRESENTED IT AS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO MEET WITH THEM. THAT IS HOW IT SOUNDED ME TO ME UP HERE. SOMETHING ELSE THAT I DON'T LIKE. TRUST AND BELIEVE YOU HAVE A UPLIAR HERE ON THIS DAIS. I AM NOT AFRAID TO ADDRESS WHAT I SEE. AND I DON'T LIKE IT. I DON'T. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS UNDERMINING AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN FIND A WAY TO WORK IT OUT TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND TO PROTECT OUR SAFETY, BECAUSE THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. BUT DON'T PRESENT THE BS TO US AS THOUGH CHIEF TRIVAGO IS NOT DOING HER JOB A-- CHIEF TRIPP I NOT DOING HER JOB. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ENOUGH ENTERTAINMENT FOR ONE DAY. BE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LUIS, ANYTHING -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ INAUDIBLE ] -- WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE WANT TO FIX IT. BUT WE HAVEN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION OF HOW THIS FIX IT. BOTH YOURSELF AND THE PRIOR -- SPEAKING FROM THE UNION, FROM -- 754 HAS SAID BASICALLY THE SAME THING IN DIFFERENT WORDS. YOU WANT TO SOLVE SOMETHING BUT SOMETHING MISSING. EITHER I DON'T HEAR AS WELL OR THINK WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. BUT THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, AND I DISH DOESN'T -- THE PUBLIC VOTED FOR THAT COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX YEARS AGO. AND HERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOLVED YEARS AGO AND NEVER DID. WE NEVER PUT NOTHING ASIDE FOR THIS, FOR POLICE, FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT -- YES, WE HAVE GOT THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE TH THINGS. IT IS SO CONVOLUTED BECAUSE WE ARE COMING BACK. WE LONG LOOK AT HOUSING. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO FIX HOUSING WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE. NEVER. YET -- AND IN THAT CONTRACT, A YEAR -- 30 YEARS, NO RENT INCREASE. NOT ONE PENNY. I AM TELLING YOU NOW WHAT IS COMING TO THE PUBLIC IS VERY AWARE MUCH ATTUNED TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SOCIETY DUE TO THE INCREASE IN DIFFERENT AVENUES WHERE YOU CAN GET YOUR NEWS PODCAST TO BROADCAST TO WORD OF MOUTH TO CELL PHONES, YOU NAME IT, THEY HAVE IT. AND THAT IS FINE. THAT IS WONDERFUL. SO I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER PREPARED IN ANY AVENUE TO DO ANYTHING THEY WANT. BUT THERE IS A C.I.T. TAX COMING UP. AND A TAX ON -- TOURIST TAX. A SIX CENT TAX WE CAN USE IF POSSIBLE. THESE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO WORKED A ORGANIZATION IN MAKE SURE IT DONE. WE HAVE TO DO OUR PART AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE DO YOUR PART AND THE SPUM PART IS 100% OF SOMETHING TO FIX A PROBLEM. I AM NOT JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU WORDS. I DON'T DO THAT, BUT I THINK ALL THIS COULD BE WORKED OUT IF WE USE ALL THE THE REVENUES WE HAVE AND PARTS OF REVENUES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE GREAT CITY OF TAMPA. WE RANK ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, IN EVERY SATURDAY IN AMERICA. WE USED TO RANK ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE FROM THE BOTTOM. NOW IT IS FROM THE TOP. SO THERE HAS BEEN GREAT STRIDES IN THIS CITY. GREAT STRIDES MADE IN THIS COUNTY BUT THINGS BOTHERSOME TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WHEN WE DO SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT I THINK WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM. I THINK IT IS CRITICAL TO SOLVE IT. BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT SOLVE IT. THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO WORDS I CAN USE. I THINK EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD. HEARD THE ADMINISTRATION NAME THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES. YOU HAD SOME SUCCESS. I KNOW WHEN YOU ORDER A FIRE ENGINE AND A APPARATUS, AT THAT TAKES SOMETIMES TWO YEARS TO GET IT. THAT IS AMERICA AT ITS BEST NOW. WE HAVE GOTTEN SO -- SO RICH AND SO WONDERFUL THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE ORDER SOMETHING, YOU CAN'T GET IT. BECAUSE SERVE AHEAD OF YOU ORDERING ALREADY. THAT IS A WE HAVE. AND THAT IS CALLED CAPITALISM. SOMETIMES YOU ORDER THAT IN OTHER COUNTRY AND YOU DON'T GET IT, EVER. THAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF IT BAG DEMOCK A. I THINK THESE THINGS ARE WORKABLE AND AS I MENTIONED PASSED BY THIS COUNCIL OF THE INCREASE IN -- HELP ME HERE MR. VIERA, BECAUSE THE SEENIOUS IN THIS AREA. NEW HOUSING AND NEW DEVELOPMENT PAY MORE FOR THE ABILITY OF WATER AND SEWER -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IMPACT FEES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LOOK OF IMPACT FEE. THE LAST TIME LOOKING FOR IMPACT FEE SOMEBODY HIT ME WITH ONE AND I WENT DOWN TEN ROUNDS. A SMALL THING OF WHAT YOU NEED, BUT IT TAKES SOMETHING TO GET IT STARTED. AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT THE 75 754 AND I THINK IT IS DOABLE AND MOST COUNCILMEMBERS THINK IT IS DOABLE. AND WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, ALL OF THEM. NOT JUST YOU OR 754. BUT WHAT COMMENTS COUNCIL HAS FOR ADMINISTRATION. I THINK IT IS DOABLE FOR BOTH OF YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WANT TO MENTION WITH THE VEHICLES. YOU ARE CORRECT. TAKES 24 TO 36 MONTHS TO GET A VEHICLE. I JUST RECEIVED VEHICLES THAT I ORDERED IN THE FISCAL YEAR BRJ '21 AND '22. RIGHT NOW THE VEHICLES WE WERE PAYING $600,000 FOR IS NOW $900,000 TO $1 MILLION. SO EACH VEND HER ANYWHERE FROM A 30% TO A 50% INCREASE ON APPARATUS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF NOTHING ELSE, COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR MOTION. >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, IF I MAY, SIR. I WILL SAY VERY BOOST REGARDS TOOT UNION. I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN UNIONS. I SALUTE THE STARBUCKS WORKER ON LINEBAUGH AND DALE MABRY FORMED A UNION. I THINK THAT IS AWESOME. THEY JOINED A UNION. A UNION JOB, WHETHER YOU ARE A NURSE UNION, A FIRST RESPONDER, PUBLIC SECTOR, WHATEVER IT MAY BE HAVE TO PUSH TEACHERS, EDUCATORS, TO PUSH FOR THE WELL FEAR OF YOUR WORKERS. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIME, THERE IS CONFLICT BETWEEN LABOR AND MANAGEMENT. AND I POINT AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT STATION 25. WE GOT ADDITIONAL VEHICLE SOUTH THERE 13. OKAY, WE ARE GOOD. THE UNION CAME AND JOE GRECO THAT SAID LUIS, THINGS NOT GOOD. THEY ARE PRETTY BAD. WITH YOUR ADVOCACY, TOOK IT TO YOU AND GOT IT DONE FAST. THAT WAS LIGHT SPEED. AND A REAL PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A UNION CHALLENGING THE STATUS QUO AND SAYING THINGS AREN'T GOOD. WE NEED TO MAKE IT BETTER AND US WORKING TOGETHER ON THE ADVOCACY AND FOLKS WORKING TOGETHER. AGAIN, I WANT TO REALLY, REALLY DEPEND THE ROLE OF THE UNION. I KNOW THERE IS -- NOT GETTING INTO ISSUES AND THE NEWS AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PERSONNEL ISSUES. I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT. THOSE ARE LEGAL ISSUES. COME TO THE ROLE IN THE ADVOCATING FOR THE WELFARE OF THEIR WORKERS, I AM ALWAYS PRO-UNION GUY. JUST ME. I ALWAYS HAVE. AND I BELIEVE IN THAT. BUT IN THAT BIG INSTANCE, WE WORK TOGETHER. AND THAT IS IMPORTANT. I WANT TO SAY WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS TOGETHER, BUT WEDNESDAY IT COMES TO THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WE ARE IN THE WRONG PATH. GREAT IDEAS AND INTO WAY TO FUND THOSE GREAT IDEAS. REAL FAST, A COUPLE OF QUIRK MOTIONS. PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN. THIS WILL BE JUST A MEMO JUNE 6 TO COME BACK ON THE STATUS OF IT, A CONSULTANT, ETC. JUST A WRITTEN REPORT. THAT IS FINE. DO YOU NEED MORE TIME FOR THAT? >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT JULY? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 18. JULY 18th? >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO WE HAVE A DATE? CHECK THE CALENDAR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 18. >>LUIS VIERA: JULY 18, IS THAT GOOD? TRIM TRIPP YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, CAN I ASK A QUESTION. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE MASTER PLAN ITEM 75, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS REFERRING TO. TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT. NOW YOU ARE CHANGING YOUR MOTION ONLY REPLYING TO THE FIRE. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I -- THE ANNUAL REPORT STILL STICKS. THIS WILL BE COMING BACK NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME. BUT -- I DO NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT OR IS THAT BUILT IN? >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAYS NEXT REPORT AVERAGE IN 27, 2025. SOME THAT IS GOOD. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, THAT IS FOR POLICE AND FIRE TO REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WITH A CONSULTANT BECAUSE IT WAS FUNDED BY THE BUDGET AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GOES THROUGH. THAT IS MY FIRST MOTION, IF I MAY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSE? >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JULY 18. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 18 UNDER STAFF REPORT. WRITTEN MEMO. YES. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? JUST A COMMENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL BACK IN VOTE. A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME THAT YOU SAID CHIEF THROUGHY IS THAT SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES WOULD STILL COME UP IN THE MASTER PLAN. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVEN'T STARTED IT. THAT IS WHAT WE CAN ALSO ANTICIPATE IF IT IS EXPECTED IN JULY. YOU WILL BE REVEALING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY TOLD US AND I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE EXPECTATION NOT THE REPORT -- JUST THE START OF IT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AGREE, BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT IS A POSSIBILITY OF THAT THANK HAPPENING. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: WE WERE JUST IN A TERRIBLE CAR CRASH. A HONDA CIVIC AND FOUR HERNIATED DISCS THERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPOKEN LIKE A TRIAL ATTORNEY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. >>LUIS VIERA: THEN -- AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. I DO ALSO WANT -- SET THIS IN THE FUTURE OCTOBER 3, 2024 FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THE REAL ESTATE ON THE PROPERTY OF -- STATUS -- LONG DAY -- PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE. STATUS OF 24 AND STATUS OF NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS FOR CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN. WILL DO THAT TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO CHECK UP ON UPDATES WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? YES. >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY IF I NAY. AND I SAID I WILL DO THIS FOR POLICE AND FIRE, A WRITTEN REPORT -- WHO NEED FOR AN IN-PERSON, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO OR THE UNIONS WANT TO ON AUGUST 1. THAT IS WHEN THE BUDGET -- WE SHOULD HAVE THE BUDGET BY THEN. BUT TO HAVE SPECIFICITY FROM POLICE AND FIRE BASED ON THE REPORTS FROM TODAY FROM CHIEF TRIPP AND CHIEF BERCAW, WHAT IS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY'S MEETING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: REPEAT THAT FOR ME? I WAS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU -- >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM. CHIEF TRIPP AND CHIEF BERCAW TALKED OF IMPROVEMENTS AND PROGRAM FUNDING FOR TFR AND TPD. AS WE PASS THE BUDGET END HE SEPTEMBER, I WOULD LIKE A BRIEFING IN AUGUST OF WHAT WILL BE IN THE BUDGET THAT THEY SPOKE OF TODAY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE? >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET OUR NEW BUDGET ANALYST. I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU AS YOU PREPARE YOUR BUDGET TO MAYBE WORK TOGETHER SO SHE CAN BRIEF AND HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR WANTS, NEEDS AND DESIRES ARE SO WE CAN BE SUPPORT OF THOSE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS AND HOPEFULLY GET YOU GUYS WHAT HAD YOU NEED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH TRIPP THANK YOU. >> MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN. NOBODY VIRTUAL. ANYBODY HERE SPEAKING ON 70? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I DON'T NEED TO BE SWORN IN. CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. HI. I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 70 SECOND READING AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE JOHN F. GERMANY PUBLIC LIBRARY TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK. STAFF IS PRESENT. STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY APPLICANT OR ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 70? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTION CLOSE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAVOR. COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS? >>GWEN HENDERSON: MY PLEASURE, CHAIR. I MOVE FILE NUMBER ESPECIALLY HL-24-38-46, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA DES IG NATING JOHN F. GERMANY PUBLIC LIBRARY AND AUDITORIUM 900 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS DESCRIBED HEREOF AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK PROVIDING HE PALE OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK BEING ABSENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. AT THIS TIME ADMINISTRATION UPDATE WITH CHIEF BENNETT. YES, SIR. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO RECALL ITEM NUMBER 27, PERHAPS NOTION RECONSIDER. SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THE ADDENDUM THAT I OVERLOOKED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISNOTICED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT O ONLY MISNOTICED BUT WITHDRAWN. E-MAIL STEPHEN MICHELINI REQUESTING THAT SAID AGENDA ITEM BE WITHDRAWN. I WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER IT WITHING WITH WITHDRAWN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 72 WITH A SECOND FROM MR. VIERA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, CHIEF BENNETT DR. CHIEF. >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF. WE ASKED FOR ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FOR TWO QUICK THINGS. THE FIRST ONE TO HAVE OUR EM COORDINATOR JOHN TO GO OVER HURRICANE THINGS WE MAY EXPECT THIS YEAR SINCE THIS IS THE LAST MEETING BEFORE THE SEASON. JOHN HAS A SHORT PRESENTATION AND I HAVE SOMETHING QUICKLY AFTER THAT. JOHN? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STATE YOUR NAME. >> JOHN ATAPSIR, EMERGENCY COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA. FAVORITE TIME OF THE YEAR, HURRICANE SEASON IS AROUND THE CORNER AND ASKED BY CHIEF BENNETT AND CHIEF TRIPP OF PRESENTATION OF THE OUTLOOK. A COUPLE OF BULLET POINTS AS THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GET PREPARED FOR THE SEASON AND GO OVER FOR THE PUBLIC THINGS THEY CAN TIKE PREPARE AS WELL WHEN IT IS BEAUTIFUL DAYS OUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE STORM SEASON. FIRST UP ON THE TROP CAM OUTLOOK, COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY DO THEIR ANNUAL TROPICAL SEASONAL OUTLOOK, AND, AGAIN, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A ABOVE-SEASON ACTIVITY FOR THE HURRICANE SEASON BECAUSE, ONE, THE ATLANTIC IS WARMER THAN NORMAL. ALREADY LOOKING AT JUNE TEMPERATURES, AS WELL AS WE WILL BE TRANSITIONING FROM AN EL NINO, TROPICAL CLIMATE TO A LA NINA. WHAT THAT MEANS BASICALLY FOR US, LESS WIND SHEAR IN THE HEIGHT OF HURRICANE SEASON WHICH ULTIMATELY COULD MEAN MORE ACTIVITY. OVERALL, HER IN LOOKING AT 23 NAMED STORMS, 11 HURRICANES AND FIVE MAJOR CATEGORY 3 AND ABOVE STORMS. ULTIMATELY TO LEAVE WU THIS. ONLY TAKES ONE, 1992. HURRICANE ANDREW. AN A STORM. A TERRIBLE YEAR FOR SOUTH FLORIDA. ONE STORM THAT HITS US IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA WILL BE A BAD SEASON. IF IT IS NOT AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THEY GO BACK OUT, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. HUNDRED-PLUS YEARS SINCE TAMPA BAY HIT BY A MAJOR CHUCK 1921. HOPEFULLY KEEP THAT LUCKY STREAK GOING AND NEED TO BE PREPARED GOING INTO THE SEASON. FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, WE UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN EVERY YEAR. THAT DOES THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS WHEN WE ARE IN EMERGENCY MODE, AS WELL AS UPDATE MAPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WE ARE FINALLY HAVING OUR DRAFT TOMORROW THAT THEN GOES BACK OUT TO OUR DEPARTMENTS. WE GO THROUGH A LENGTHY TWO-MONTH PROCESS WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS TO UPDATE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, LESSONS LEASHED FROM HURRICANE ADALIA TO UPDATE OUR PLANS TO THIS YEAR. WE HAVE OUR CITY KNOW YOUR ROLE WITH THE 4800 EMPLOYEES ABOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA. WE ALL HAVE EMERGENCY ROLES WE NEED TO BE CALLED UPON. WORKING AT SHELTERS. GIVING OUT SANDBAGS. POST-STORM DAMAGE ASSESSMENT. CLEARING DEBRIS OFF ROADWAYS. MADE THE ASSIGNMENT AHEAD OF TIME GOING THROUGH APRIL AND CONTINUING ON FOR THIS MONTH. OUR EMPLOYEES KNOW THEIR ROLES, HAVE THEIR PROPER ASSIGNMENT AND HAVE THE PROPER TRAINING AND WHEN A STORM THREATENS OUR AREA, WE ARE READY TO GO INTO ACTION. NEXT TUESDAY WE DO OUR ANNUAL TABLE-TOP HURRICANE EXERCISE WITH LEADERSHIP. 29th THE FULL-SCALE EMERGENCY RESPONSE CENTER PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WHERE WE GO THROUGH THE CITY AND PUSH THROUGH OUR ROUTES, VERIFY OUR ROUTES AND OUR CRITICAL FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AGAIN, TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO IN CASE A STORM DOES HAPPEN THIS SEASON. JUNE 1 OUR SECOND ANNUAL HURRICANE EXPO AT BARKSDALE AND I WILL PUT THE FLYER UP SHORTLY, BUT FOR RESIDENTS TO GET OUT EARLY. WE DID HAVE SINCE LAST YEAR THREE SANDBAG MANS FROM HURRICANE IDALIA. WE DIDN'T HAVE LONG LANDS AND THE HURRICANE EXPO. IF THEY WANT TO GET THE SANDBAGS AHEAD OF TIME TO HELP MITIGATE DEMANDS WHEN THE STORM IS COMING. CITY'S END, OFF SEASON, WE ARE WORKING TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE OUR TECHNOLOGY. SUPPLIES WE NEED AT THE CITY. OUR DRONE PROGRAM. WE CONTINUE TO ENHANCE OUR PROGRAM. IF YOU REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO, WE IMPLEMENTED DRONES IN OUR DAMAGE ASSESSMENT TEAMS. POST STORM AS WE DO WITH HURRICANE IDALIA AND DAVIS ISLAND AND FLOODING TO GET OUR LIVE FOOTAGE AND SEE WHAT DAMAGE HAPPENS FROM THE STORM. NEXT, ALSO, THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM HAS BEEN WIDELY SUCCESSFUL VOLUNTEER PROGRAM WITH THE CITY. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THAT SINCE 2021. AND THE CERT PROGRAM. SO FAR TEN CLASSES SINCE 2021. WE ACTUALLY TRAINED 180 RESIDENTS THROUGH THAT PROGRAM. AND 70 OF THOSE RESIDENTS HAVE GONE THROUGH LEVEL TWO BACKGROUND CHECKS WHERE IT ALLOWS US TO UTILIZE THEM TO GIVE OUT SANDBAGS AND OTHER OPERATIONS DURING EMERGENCIES AS WELL. BUT THAT HAS BEEN WIDELY SUCCESSFUL. WE HELD RECENTLY PROGRAM OVER THE WEEKEND WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA. BUT AGAIN LIFE SAFETY TRAINING, C PROXIMATE CAUSESR, STOP THE BLEED, AND OTHER EMERGENCY TRAINING THAT THOSE RESIDENTS GO THROUGH. ALSO AT OUR WEB SITE, TAMPA.GOV/HURRICANE. RECENTLY UPDATED OUR 2024 DISASTER PREPAREDNESS GUIDE. WE ASKED ALL RESIDENTS TO LOOK AT THAT GUIDE OPINION UPDATED INFORMATION ON SHELTER LOCATIONS AND EVACUATION. AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEB SITE AT THE TIME AND OUR HURRICANE HANG TAG PROGRAM FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. THAT IS OUR PROGRAM POST STORM. CERTAIN ZIP CODES TO ALLOW EASY RE-ENTRY ONCE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ENTRY PLAN AND VISIBILITY FOR OUR OFFICERS THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE BACK IN POST-STORM. ON OUR WEB SITE, TAMPA.GOV/HANGTAG. RESIDENTS GET THOSE HANG TAGS AND HAVE THEM WITH THEM IN THEIR HURRICANE KIT. TWO FINAL FINAL NOTES. JULY 1 WILL BE THE MY SAFE FLORIDA HOME PROGRAM. $10,000 FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO HELP MITIGATE YOUR HOME AND HARDEN YOUR HOME. ON THE BLUE SKIES DAYS, THESE ARE THE TIMES WHEN LOOKING WHEN RETROFITTING YOUR HOME HARDENING TIME. AND JUNE 1st TO JUNE 14. CERTAIN ITEMS AND TA TAMPA.GOV/HURRICANE AND ALL INFORMATION AND GENERATORS AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE TAX-FREE. FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AGAIN, HOW TO PREPARE -- OUR THREE MAIN MESSAGES EVERY YEAR IS HAVE YOUR HURRICANE KIT NOW, DON'T BE IN THE LINES LIKE WE HAVE SEEN IN PAST YEARS WHERE ALL THE SUPPLIES AT THE PUBLIXES, WAL-MARTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. GET YOUR WATER SUPPLY IN PLACE. SEVEN-DAY SUPPLY. ONE GALLON PER DAY. IN NONESPECIALLY I SHALLABLES, BATTERIES, CELL PHONE CHARGERS. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TAX HOLIDAY TO BUILD UP YOUR KIT AT THE START OF THE HURRICANE SEASON. HAVING YOUR PLAN IN PLACE IS REALLY KEY TO BRING DOWN THE STRESS DURING THESE TIMES. IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE SHELTER, IDENTIFY THE CLOSEST SHELTER. YOU SHOULD KNOW YOUR EVACUATION ZONE. IF YOU HAVE -- EITHER IN YOUR FAMILY AND FRIEND NETWORK IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS SHELTER. GET REGISTERED FOR NOW WITH THAT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO ACCOMMODATE FOR ANY SUPPLIES YOU MAY NEED AT THE SPECIAL SHELTER. ANOTHER TAKE AWAY. IF YOU TAKE PICTURES CON IN YOUR NOW THERE ARE ANY INSURANCE CLAIMS, IT WILL HELP YOU GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS MUCH EASIER. AND WE WANT TO HAVE FOLKS SIGN UP FOR ALERT TAMPA, TAMPA.GOV/ALERTTAMPA AND FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT ALERT TAMPA. WE PUT A LOT OF FRAYED PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO STAY INFORMED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE FOLKS AS THINGS DEVELOP. APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME THIS AFTERNOON. UP WANTED TO PUT UP THE FLYER FOR THE HURRICANE EXPO. AGAIN THIS IS AT DARKS D-- BARKSDALE. MISSION BARBECUE AND, AGAIN, SANDBAGS AND SPEAKERS GETTING EVERYONE PREPARED FOR THE HURRICANE SEASON, BUT THIS IS TO GET EVERYONE PREPARED THIS YEAR TO KICK IT OFF. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAME I HOPE NOTHING HITS BECAUSE WATER IN THE ATLANTIC IS HOTTER NOW THAN IT IS IN AUGUST. IF ONE COMES, YOU BETTER LEAVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND KEEPING US INFORMED. WE GET YOUR E-MAILS. WE GET YOUR -- THE SIT REPSP. SITUATION REPORTS. YOU WORK 24-7. WHEN DISASTER STRIKES -- I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH. WE HAD IRMA AND OTHER CLOSE CALLS. AND YOU ARE WORKING NONSTOP AND YOUR TEAM AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE CHIEF? >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST ONE THING. OPINION CHIEF OF STAFF. BRING UP MIKE SWAIN, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MANAGER. I WANT TO TELL COUNCIL IS EXPECT A CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER REPLACING RUSSELL HALBERT. LOOKING TO BRING THAT CANDIDATE TO COUNCIL JUNE 6. THREE-WEEK MEM AND WILL GET IT OUT WITH THE BACKGROUND ON THE SELECTION PROCESS. MIKE WAS TIME GET 49 APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION. WE WORKED IT DOWN TO ONE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE MAYOR PROBABLY BY THE END OF THIS WEEK OR THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK. WE WILL SEND YOU THE MEMO WITH THE BACKGROUND ON THE DEPARTMENT AND SELECTION PROCESS. UP IN WANT TO TALK TO THE CANDIDATE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 6, LET ME OFFICE KNOW AND WE WILL SET IT UP. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MIKE SWAIN DOES A REMARKABLE JOB WITH OUR RECRUITING. AND THOUGHTSS APPLICATIONS ALL THE TIME FOR THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST. I WANT TO GIVE HIM PROP THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND A LONG ONE. TOOK NATIONAL SEARCHES TO GET 49 BE CANDIDATES FOR ONE OF THE -- 94 CANDIDATES FOR ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENT HEADS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABOUT MR. SWAIN, ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL AND KELLY AUSTIN IN THE BACK. GREAT DEPARTMENT. GREAT FOLKS. AGAIN, THEY WORK VERY, VERY HARD OOPS. YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME THING. WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE AS FIRST TIME ATTENDING OFFICIAL LIBRARY AS CITY COUNCIL. NO SONOMA PART DUE TO Y'ALL'S HELP AND ASSISTANCE GUIDING US THROUGH THE PROCESS. I REALLY EXPECT -- RESPECT YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND THE INPUT YOU PROVIDED WAS INVALUABLE. THANK YOU, KELLY. AND THANK YOU, MIKE. APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING TODAY. OKAY -- YES, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF NATIONAL SEARCHES IN GENERAL. IS THAT S.O.P. PRACTICE WHEN IT COMES TO HIGHER LEVEL POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY? AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST WHEN WE DO THAT? >> MIKE SWAIN, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES MANAGER. IT VARIES WITH THE POSITION AS FAR AS HOW WE APPROACH THE RECRUITMENT. WE TEND TO LOOK AT HISTORY AS FAR AS WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME AND WHAT EFFORTS AND THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES ALLERGENED FROM WHATEVER IT WAS. WE USE THE NATIONAL SEARCH SUCH AS WITH THE -- WITH THE CTO, WE WENT OUT TO DICE. AND WE WENT OUT TO GOVERNMENT JOB -- GOVERNMENTJOBS.COM. DICE COST BUS $500 BUCKS. THE GOVERNMENTJOB.COM, ABOUT $250. SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: 250. >> YES, MA'AM HENDERSON ATHENS IS AFFORDABLE. FOR SOME REASON IN MY HEAD, A NATIONAL SEARCH WAS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. >> YOU ARE TALKING OF BRINGING IN A RECRUITER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO THERE. BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WILL TRY TO DO IT AS COST EFFICIENT THAT WE CAN. WE POST IT ON FREE JOB BOARDS AS WELL. A COUPLE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT SPACE THAT WE TEND TO USE THAT DON'T COST ANY MONEY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NATIONAL SEARCH IS DEPENDING. I HEARD FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, IT CAN BE A LOT OF MONEY. SO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO. >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU TAKE YOUR DIRECTIVE OF MAYOR OR CHIEF OF STAFF FOR NATIONAL SEARCHES OR DECIDED FROM A HR PERSPECTIVE. >> TYPICALLY A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE HR DIRECTOR. >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS IT? >> SHAME SORRY? >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU DO IT? >> I AM THE ACTION GUY. THE DECISION IS MADE ABOVE ME AND I AM THE ACTION GUY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PUTTING OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE TOP MAKES THE DECISIONS AND BRINGS IT DOWN. PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU CONFIRMING THAT TODAY. >> YOU ARE WELCOME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU ARE WELCOME MANHATTAN SNANZ IT, CHIEF BENNETT. NEXT ITEM 74. WILL BHIDE IS THERE, ADDS 8 MILLION DISCREPANCY DOWN TO $12,000. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR HAD ANYONE ELSE -- >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE ENDING THE CONTRACT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY FOR CLARITY. WE BUDGETED $8 MILLION AND NOW WE ARE NOT SPENDING IT. JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE. >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COUNCIL, VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR MOVE BUILT HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 74. THAT IS CORRECT, WE ARE DETERMINATING YOUR CONTRACT WITH A CLOSE-OUT INVOICE OF $12,000 AND DECREASE OF $8 MILLION IS THE AMOUNT ON THE CONTRACT AND BUDGET DISCREPANCY WHERE IS THE $8 MILLION GOES. CITYWIDE CONTRACT OF USE BY MOBILITY AND ONE OF TWO CITY OPINION WIDE CONTRACTS. ONE WITH AJAX AND OTHER WITH CW ROBERTS WHICH IS ALREADY ACTIVE DO NOT A SPEAK A PROJECT OR LINE ITEM. AVAILABLE FOR CAPITAL OR OPERATIONS NEED BY MOBILITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS NEEDED. SO IT IS NOT LIKE THERE IS NOW $8 MILLION AVAILABLE BECAUSE THIS CONTRACT IS BEING TERMINATED. JUST THAT THIS CONTRACT IS BEING TERMINATED. AND WE DO ANTICIPATE GOING FOR ANOTHER CONTRACT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS WOULD LIKE HAVE REDUNDANT FAVING CONTRACTS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: VIK, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE -- THERE ARE A BUNCH OF NUMBERS FLYING AROUND. WHAT IS THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET, NOT INCLUDING PIPES OR WHATEVER. WHAT IS THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET THIS YEAR? >>VIK BHIDE: THIS YEAR, IT IS -- WITH THAT $7 MILLION, ABOUT $12 MILLION. >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE THAT IT WAS -- >>VIK BHIDE: $5 MILLION OF THE $9 MILLION. >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MANY YEARS AROUND 4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION? DO YOU KNOW? >>VIK BHIDE: IT VARIES. THE $5 MILLION DOES NOT INCLUDE GRANTS. THE $5 MILLION DOES NOT INCLUDE VARIOUS MATCHES. IT HAS BEEN THAT LEVEL FOR A WHILE BECAUSE GAS TAX RECEIPTS HAVE BEEN STAGNANT. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU THINK AT LEAST TEN YEARS? >>VIK BHIDE: EASILY. >>BILL CARLSON: SO WE ARE GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION AS THE PUBLIC, $112, 12 MILLION, WAS $8 MILLION COMING OUT OF IT? >>VIK BHIDE: IT IS NEITHER. THERE ISN'T A $8 MILLION LINE ITEM THAT THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH. >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID A FUND THAT CAN BE USED BY ANY DEPARTMENT. MY FEAR BASED WHUN S-- BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, SOMEONE OTHER DEPARTMENT COULD BE GRAB IT. AND AN ISSUE THEY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR YEARS. AND IF WE ARE GOING TO VOTE TO TAKE THIS OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE TO PUT IT BACK IN IMMEDIATE LEAD SO NOBODY ELSE CAN GRAB IT. IT IS GOING TO BE THIS 12 PLUS 8, WOULD BE 20 AND DO -- DO I REMEMBER DIRECTLY, $200 MILLION TO FIX THE ROADS VICK STLAKZ NUMBER IS IN THE BALLPARK. ONE IS, THIS ISN'T A $8 MILLION FUND. IT IS A $8 MILLION CONTRACT. BASICALLY BY DETERMINATING THIS CONTRACT, WE HAVE ONE LESSER CONTRACT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE $8 MILLION AVAILABLE THAT WILL BE TAKEN OUT BY SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT. >>BILL CARLSON: WHERE WAS THE MONEY COMING FROM? >>VIK BHIDE: ULTIMATELY, THE CONTRACT IS AVAILABLE FOR THINK DEPARTMENT TO HAVE FUNDS RELATIVE TO THIS CONTRACTkt CHARLOTTE IS WHAT I MEAN. >>VIK BHIDE: WE WERE GOING TO USE THIS CONTRACT USING OUR CIP BUDGET WHICH IS $12 MILLION OR OPERATIONS BUDGET FOR PAVING. BUT OTHER DEPARTMENTS COULD HAVE AS WELL. AND WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT LIKE THIS. NONE OF OUR PAVING PROJECTS ARE DELAYED OR SUFFERING JUST THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT SR. NOT ACTIVE. AND LETTING IT TERM NEAT AND -- TERMINATE AND WE WILL SECURE ANOTHER CONTRACT. THE NOTION OF FUNDS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IS THERE. IT IS JUST A MECHANISMkt CARE WONDER IF WE CAN ASK OUR BUDGET ADVISOR -- MAYBE IF IT IS INTO PREMATURE TO DO THAT, TO DEFER IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. MY FEAR IS THERE ARE SEEING HOW THINGS ARE DIFFERENT OVER TIME. SOMETIMES WE MAKE A DECISION THAT HAVE OTHER IMPACTS. BY THE WAY YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT, IT SEEMS LIKE BUCKET OF MONEY THAT THIS COULD COME DOWN AND STAYS IN THAT BUDGET SO IS NOT DESIGNATED. NOT A LINE ITEM, BUT IF WE CAN KEEP THIS MONEY FOR ROAD REPAIR -- THE PRIORITY OF THE PUBLIC IS ROAD REPAIR. >>VIK BHIDE: YES. IF I CAN CLARIFY, THE BUDGET FOR ROAD REPAIR IS GOING NOWHERE. THE ONLY THING WE ARE DOING IS TERMINATING A CHART IS NOT ACTIVE. >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND, BUT -- BUT SEE NEVER MIND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL DROP IT DOWN SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND. 20. THAT IS YOUR CONTRACT. THE 20, YOU SPENT $12. THERE WAS $8 THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT EQUAL THE SUMS OF THE $20. >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OF THOSE SUMS, SOME HAVE NOT DONE THE PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SUM, EIGHT LEFT AND SPENT 12 OUT OF THE 20. YOU HAVE $8 LEFT. THE MONEY IS NOT THERE BECAUSE IT HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT BECAUSE MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND. >>VIK BHIDE: SO IF I CAN GIVE YOU A COUNTER EXAMPLE JUST TO BRING IT TO LIFE. WE HAVE A SIGNALS MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, A TRAFFIC SIGNALS MAINTENANCE CONTRACT. IF YOU ADD UP ALL THE OF THE LINE ITEMS ON IT. IT COMES UP TO 30 MILLION. CLEARLY WE DON'T HAVE $30 MILLION TO SPEND ON SIGNALS. BUT SIGNALS HAVE. POLES, ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, CONDUITS. ALL HAS TO BE THERE TO DO THE WORK THAT IS NEEDED. THIS CONTRACT SIMILAR TO PAVING. A SIMILAR AMOUNT AND DOESN'T MEAN BUDGETED MONEY FOR THEIR CONTRACT. IT WAS AVAILEDABLE CITY WIDE ALL IT IS. IT IS INACTIVE AND TERMINATING IT. I DO INTEND TO GO FOR ANOTHER PAVING CONTRACT. NOT A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN OUR CONTRACT AMOUNT AND OUR BUDGET AMOUNT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT IT? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOT IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS CLEAR. I UNDERSTAND. THE CONTRACT JUST SITS THERE AS CONTRACT THAT COULD BE UTILIZED. IT WASN'T FUNDED. THERE IS NO LINE ITEM. IT IS SITTING THERE IF SOMEBODY HAD AN EXTRA DOLLAR, GIVING AND EXERCISE THE RIGHTS UNDER THAT CONTRACT. >>VIK BHIDE: EXACTLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UP HEARD MERE SAY IT A MILLION TIMES, IF WE FINDS MONEY, HOPEFULLY SPEND IT ON THE STREETCAR AND ROADS. [LAUGHTER] >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY. WE WILL GO THROUGH ANOTHER CONTRACT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CONTRACT IN CAPACITY, BUT A WE DO HOPE SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE AFT DOLLARS. I KNOW THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT IT. THERE SUBJECT CLARITY ON THIS YET, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL. WE HAVE BEEN HOPEFUL. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL WE HAVE WITH THAT AND POTENTIAL FOR THE C.I.T. AS WELL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR NO CONCLUSION -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME FINISH WILL BHIDE, WHILE I HAVE YOU CAPPED -- I AM PIVOTING -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THE WHOLE 20. VICK VICTIM CORRECT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU BUDGETED IN FOR THE $20, AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE 20. >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 12 OUT OF THE $20. YOU? NEVER HAD THE $8 LEFT OVER TO HAVE IT TO SPEND. >>VIK BHIDE: THE NUMBER IS POSSIBLE IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHILE WE HAVE YOU CAPTIVE IN FRONT OF US AT THE DAIS ON CAMERA. EARLIER IN OUR SIX-MONTH BRIEFING ON BUDGET -- I AM SURE YOU WATCHED IT. WE TALKED OF PARKING AND NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART AND EXCESS REVENUE THERE. I -- AS I DID LAST TIME -- WE MADE THE MOTION TO STEAL THAT MONEY IN FROM YOU. IT BROKE YOUR HEART. WHAT IS STANDING IN THE WAY, IN YOUR -- IN YOUR PRIORITIES STAFF THAT EXCESS REVENUE WE MAY HAVE FROM '24 OF SHIFTING THAT FUNDING FOR PAVING OF THIS YEAR SO WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON YOUR EFFICIENCY OF BRINGING THIS PAYMENT. DOUBLE DOWN ON THE EFFICIENCY HE DOUBLING DOWN OF THE EFFICIENCY OF THE STREETS OF TAMPA. >>VIK BHIDE: SURE. AS LONG AS THAT MONEY STAYS IN MOBILITY AND GOES FORWARD MOBILITY PRIORITIES, I THINK FROM EVERY ANGLE, FINANCIAL, LEGAL, AND ALSO MOBILITY, IT IS VALID. AND WE HAVE NEEDS ACROSS THE BOARD. DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN AND TAKE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE SIGN PACKAGE. AND IT CONTRIBUTES TO TRAFFIC MANA MANAGEMENT. DOES NOT SOLVE TRAFFIC, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS GUIDE VEHICLES TO SPACES IN GARAGES WHERE THEY ARE AVAILABLE RATHER THAN ANYONE GOING TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO AND THEY START LOOKING FOR PARKING. THAT CREATES ABOUT 30% OF THE TRAFFIC DURING SPECIAL EVENTS. AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SYSTEM WILL HELP US DO. AND IT IS NOT A SOURCE WARE, NOT SIGNED, NOT AN APP AND NOT CONTROLLED. IT IS ALL OF THE ABOVE WORKING TOGETHER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT -- THAT WANT. BUT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME -- MAYBE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN OFF GRID AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THAT TRULY MEANS. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THE GREAT NEEDS WE HAVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND MAY HAVING, I MEAN -- IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING -- OF THE FOLKS HAVING SPECIAL EVENTS TO HELP PAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT -- AS WE GROW AND DEVELOP TO PAY FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE OUR NEEDS IN SOUTH TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA AND ALL ACROSS THE CITY ON ROAD IMPROVEMENT IS SO SIGNIFICANT. THESE ARE REAL NEEDS AND NOT NECESSARILY THE WANTS OF -- I AGREE. I HAVE VISITED SAYS THAT HAVE THAT SIGNAGE PROGRAM AND THEY ARE NICE. YOU GO TO DISNEY. THEY HAVE. IT IS NICE. WE HAVE -- I AM SURE THERE ARE STREETS IN WAR-TORN COUNTRIES THAT LOOK BETTER THAN OURS. WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. >>VIK BHIDE: OUR NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT, NO DOUBT. ALSO NO DOUBT ON THE RETURN ON VEC INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE BIGGEST IMPACT OF THE TAXPAYERS LIVING HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, I WOULD LIKE TO -- >>VIK BHIDE: SURE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- WEIGHS HEAVY ON MY SOUL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSO, ANYTHING ELSE? >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST -- I RECOMMEND THAT WE GET OUR BUDGET ANALYST LOOK AT THIS AND COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY HARM THIS IS DELAYED SINCE IT IS -- >>VIK BHIDE: THERE ISN'T ANY HARM IF THIS IS DELAYED. WE CAN COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. AGAIN, OUR INTENTION SOMEBODY TO LET THIS CONTRACT EX-FIRE AND PUT ANOTHER CONTRACT OUT THERE, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT REDUNDANT CONTRACTS IN PAVING GIVEN THE CLEAR DESIRE TO HAVE MORE PAVING DONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW JUNE 6 IS FULL AND WE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ON IT. I THINK THIS WILL BE A SIMPLE -- SIMPLE DISCUSSION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE JUST ASK FOR A MEMO? >>VIK BHIDE: WE CAN DO THAT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ASKED TO SPEAK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. MR. BHIDE. REGARDLESS, WE STILL OWE THEM $12,000 CORRECT? >>VIK BHIDE: YES, WE HAVE TO FAY THAT INVOICE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT MR. BHIDE IS SUGGESTING TO ALLOW THIS COURT END AND PAYING THEN THEIR BALANCE. AND NOT HAVING TO COME BACK. STAFF IS ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT. I DON'T THINK ANOTHER WEEK AND HAVING OUR BRAND-NEW BUDGET ANALYST LOOK AT IT AND COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR? >>BILL CARLSON: I FEEL BURNED ON SO MANY LEVELS AND UP DOESN'T TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE CASES, BUT I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT MR. BHIDE. THEY SAY DON'T WORRY, IF YOU GUY ACE PROVE IT, YOU CAN TURN IT DOWN ANOTHER TIME AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT IN AND THAT. AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IT DID. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- I WANT -- ANYWAY, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO VOTE ON IT, I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT IF YOU WANT TO DELAY IT. I THINK $8 MILLION IS A BIG ENOUGH NUMBER -- DOUBLE WHAT THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET WAS UNTIL LAST YEAR. MR. BHIDE, ONE OTHER THING REAL FAST. WOULD JUST ASK. YOU AND I SPENT MANY TIMES TALKING ABOUT THIS. I WOULD APPRECIATE -- I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS TRUE THAT THE CAUSE OF THE CONGESTION. CUMBERLAND GARAGE. CUMBERLAND GARAGE IS FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. THE PROBLEM IS, THE WAY THE SITUATION IS SET UP DOWNTOWN, POLICE GIVE PRESENCE TO THE PEDESTRIAN. WE ARE TRYING TO BE A PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLE-FR FRIENDLY CITY. I THINK IT CONFUSES THE PUBLIC. AND THE PROBLEM IS THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T APPROVE THE SCIENCE PROGRAM AND THE REALITY IS WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE ARE GIVING HIGHER PREFERENCE TO PEDESTRIANS AND NOT GIVING ANY MREF DRONES CARS. THE CARS ARE BACKING UP. I CAN'T GET HERE TO IT THE EXACT DAY. WE GOT TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR CARS TO GET INTO DOWNTOWN. >>BILL CARLSON: NOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PARKING IS, THEY WANT TO GO TO PAM IORIO GARAGE AND DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE OTHER GARAGES. >>VIK BHIDE: IF I CAN PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT THE PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM WILL SOLVES TRAFFIC, BUT CERTAINLY HELPS TO POINT PEOPLE TO WHERE THERE IS PARKING AVAILABLE THAN HAVING FOLKS GO TO THE MOST PREFERRED PARKING LOCATION, ABSENT THE INFORMATION WHERE PARKING IS AVAILABLE. AND IT IS REALLY THAT SIMPLE. IT DOESN'T SOLVE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC CHALLENGES. IT IS ABOUT NETWORK. ABOUT SHIFT. IT IS ABOUT THE COMPLETING THE DOWNTOWN GRID WHICH IS CURRENTLY ONE-THIRD FINISHED WITH WATER STREET. >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING. STEVE GRIGGS WAS LEADING ORLANDO -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE WAS LEADING ORLANDO WITH THE GREAT PARKING GARAGE WHERE YOU CAN GET OUT EASILY. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN -- IN THEIR SYSTEM, THEY CAN SEND OUT A MAP OF ALL THE PLACES ARE AND HAVE A MAP TO BUY PARKING IN ADVANCE BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE, NOT DRIVING ANYWHERE AND STUCK IN TRAFFIC. ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE PEOPLE GET IN THE CARS AND THEY HAVE A PROBLEM. PEOPLE DON'T GET TO HARBOUR ISLAND. THE THING I DON'T LIKE IS THE FINGERPOINTING. WE NEED TO -- I DON'T KNOW WHO NEEDS TO DO IT BUT WE NEED TO SAY A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM. TRYING TO TAKE TIME AND THIS WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THEM. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY I MISSED OUTSIDE BECAUSE I WAS OUTSIDE DOING PERSONAL STUFF, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS LIKE I COME DOWN ASHLEY AND MAKE A LEFT ON JACKSON. GOES FROM THREE LANES TO ONE LANE. THAT PROBLEM IS EXACERBATED WITH TAMPA STREET MAKING A LEFT ON JACKSON. HOWEVER IT WAS BETTER TODAY GO AND STOP WITH THE OTHER SIGN. I SAID I MUST HAVE DESIGNED THIS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK. THE ONE LANE BACKED UP, BUT WHEN THE LIGHT STOPS, YOU GOT TO STOP, BUT NO CARS MAKING LEFT. NO CARS OF THE TRAFFIC. WHY THEY PUT THE SIGN TO STOP. NO CARS COMING. THEY HAD A POLICE OFFICER, MAYBE THEY COULD RUN IT THROUGH AND MAYBE THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT. YOU CAN'T HAVE A STOP AND GO SIGN AND GO AND STOP. JUST MY OPINION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO WRAP THIS UP. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS ISSUE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT. HOWEVER, I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE FELLOW COUNCILPERSON WHO IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT AND THE STAFF DAYS INCONSEQUENTIAL TO DELAY IT. AND I MOVE THAT WE DELAY CONSIDERATION OF THIS UNTIL -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 6. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUNE 6. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL JUNE 6. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM -- LONG DAY FOR ME. SO MR. BHIDE, THIS POSES NO PROBLEMS TO ANY PROJECTS OR ANYTHING CORRECT? >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S CORRECT. >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I AM FINE WITH THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. IN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO SAY NAY. IN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY HE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE MEAN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM NOT MEAN. I CAN DECIDE FOR MYSELF. I AM NOT SENSITIVE. YOU ARE, REMEMBER. [LAUGHTER] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DID 75. 76, 78, 79, 80. NEXT IS UP 81. THIS IS REGARDING COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES -- OR STEPPING STONES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AS IT IS WRITTEN HERE. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LEGEND. >>. >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD AFFAIRS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXTRAORDINAIRE. >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU. I AM THE MEMO THAT COMMUNITY STEPPING-STONE SENT TO YOU AND I ENDED UP WITH IT A REQUEST FOR FUNDING FOR $57,000 FOR THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS, ARTS PROGRAM, OUTREACH PROGRAM. THE REQUEST FROM THE LAST COUNCIL WAS FOR US TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE NONPROFIT. I AM WORKING WITH OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO SEE WHAT FUNDING IS AVAILABLE DURING THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR. ONCE I -- ONCE WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA IF THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE OR NOT, I CAN REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES, IF IT IS NOT AVAILABLE. THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO SUBMIT FOR FUNDING FOR FY 25 FOR THAT NONPROFIT FIND. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR COUNCIL AS WITH ALL OF OUR NONPROFITS, THAT WE ARE ASKING EVERYONE TO COMPLETE AN AGREEMENT. AND THAT AGREEMENT WILL INCLUDE THE -- THE REQUEST TO DEVELOP A STATEMENT OF WORK. AND WE -- WE -- WE IN LEGAL -- AND WE WILL WORK ALONG WITH THEM ALONG WITH PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND METHODS. WE ARE HOLDING OUR NONPROFITS ACCOUNT FUMBLE THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE METRICS ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE NOT REVISITING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THIS THEY ARE GETTING FOR THE NEXT QUARTER. I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING STEPPING STONES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. THIS WAS YOUR MOTION. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS GOING TO PUT A REQUEST FOR SOME FUNDS FOR THEM IN THE NEXT BUDGET ALREADY. SO THAT IS GREAT. IF WE CAN PROVIDE FUNDS NOW, THAT IS WONDERFUL. YOU KNOW, THERE IS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. I VISITED COMMUNITY STEPPING STONES THE FIRST TIME SIX YEARS AGO. AND I AM GLAD THAT COUNCIL -- AND I AM SURE THE MAYOR IS GOING TO SUPPORT GIVING THEM SOME FUNDING BECAUSE AS GREAT RESOURCE FOR FAMILIES IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THIS YEAR NOW WHICH WOULD BE A GREAT BLESSING AND FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET OR POST OCTOBER BUDGET, WE WILL GET IT DONE FOR SURE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. MISS WYNN, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? >>OCEA WYNN: I AM QUITE WELL, THANK YOU ARE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I VISITED WITH STEPPING STONES IN THE PAST 14 DAY AND THEY ARE DOING VERY GREAT WORK OVER THERE. THIS IS REALLY MORE SO A STATEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. THEY ARE VERY NERVOUS. THEY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THE PAST IN THE AMOUNT OF $75,000. THEY HAVE GREAT FEAR THEY WILL LOSE THAT. I. THEY FEED THESE KIDS FULL MEALS THAT COME TO THEM. SAFETY. THEY GAVE ME SOME AMAZING STORIES. I HOPE WE CAN FIND SOME FUNDING THIS YEAR TO GET THEM OVER THE HUMP, HURDLE EVEN IF IT IS NOT IN THE AMOUNT OF $75,000. DO SOMETHING TO SUPPORT THEM. SOCIAL ACTION FUNDS OR NONDEPARTMENTAL FUNDS, THERE IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME PARTICULARLY BECAUSE I AM THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT 5. SO MANY DIFFERENT SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOT ON OUR LIST ARE -- THAT SERVE PARTICULARLY FOR ME OUR YOUTH POPULATION IS HAVE I IMPORTANT TO ME. SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU CAN EXPRESS THAT TO THE MAYOR AND STAFF WHEN YOU ALL ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE IT CONTINUES TO ME AS THOUGH IF YOU GET ON THE LIST, YOU STAY ON THE LIST FOREVER. AND NOW WE ARE HAVING -- WHERE WE ARE -- WE ARE DEVELOPING COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST, HAVING TO LAND ON THAT LIST AND EVEN SMALLER NUMBERS, I THINK WE CAN SERVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE. OUR ORGANIZATIONS. IF -- IF WE ARE NOT AS GENEROUS TO EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT IS -- THAT IS A GREAT CONCERN TO ME. AND THAT'S WHY PUBLICLY I MADE THAT MOTION A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT EVERYONE ON THAT LIST CURRENTLY BE NOTIFIED THAT AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR COMES, YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO GET WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PAST. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE CAN PROVIDE THE WEALTH TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS EVEN IN SMALLER INCREMENTS. I SUPPORT GIVING STEPPING STONES SOME FUNDS. THEY SERVE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT OVERLOOK THAT PARTICULAR POINT OVER IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA. SO THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN AND CARLSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONQUER WITH THE STATEMENTS MADE ABOUT SEPPING STONES. ONE -- PURPOSE LISTENING THIS MORNING AND -- IF YOU WERE LISTENING THIS MORNING I WAS TALKING TO CHIEF OF POLICE OF PROBLEMS INVOLVING YOUTH. SO MANY APPROXIMATE CAN BE SOLVED BY EARLY INTERVENTION AND ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT GIVE KIDS A PLACE TO GO. INSTEAD OF MISCHIEF, THEY ARE UP TO LEARNING. AND GREAT RETURN AND INVESTMENT, WE RECEIVE $10 BACK IN SOCIETAL CONCERNS. AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT AREA OF THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON INVESTMENTS AS WELL. AND THAT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I AM GOING TO ACTUALLY JUMP AHEAD AND THEY CAN COME BACK AND DO SOMETHING ELSE -- I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 TO ALLOCATE $75,000 TO STEPPING STONES. AND SUB QUESTION WENTLY, LOOKING TO '25 TO BE EQUIVALENT TO THE OTHERS. I AGREE ABOUT -- PUT A PERIOD THERE. THAT IS MY MOTION. AND THEN FOR DISCUSSION. I AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND YOUR OBJECTIVE OF GETTING THIS IN LINE IN A BUSINESS-LIKE FASHION ENSURING THAT THE ORGANIZATION DOES THE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK APPLICATION AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY AS WE WOULD EXPECT OUT OF EVERY ORGANIZATION AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT AS WE APPROVE THIS, THAT THEY HAVE TO FULFILL THE EXACT SAME THINGS WE EXPECT -- WE SHOULD EXPECT OUT OF EVERY ORGANIZATION. PENDING THAT PROCESS THAT WE ALLOCATE THE $75,000 FOR FISCAL YEAR '24. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION. COUNCILWOMAN. YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN SECOND IT. YOU WANTED TO SPEAK? >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO SAY THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. COMBINES SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS. INSTEAD OF CREATING A CRA, WE CAN JUST MOVE MONEY UP THERE. IT HELPS KIDS THAT ARE ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED. ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS TO IT SO KIDS KNOW OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND SUPPORT THE ENVIRONMENT. AND KNOW ABOUT THE ARTS AND FOOD AND OTHER THINGS. SO A GREAT ALL-AROUND PROGRAM. A LOT OF OTHER FLOGS SULPHUR SPRINGS. I THINK SEVERAL OF US ARE LOOKING AROUND LIKE LAYLA'S HOUSE AND OTHERS. AND WE NEED TO BE STRAW TAKIC OF HOW WE INVEST AND HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE. AND GREAT PROGRAM. I BELIEVE IN WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID THAT WE NEED TO NOTIFY NONPROFITS THIS IS NOT A RECURRING THING. WE MIGHT RENEW IT ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SET UP A SITUATION WHERE NONPROFITS DON'T EXPECT TO GET FUNDING FROM US. THIS SHOULD BE A -- FILL A PETITION GAP AND THE CITY DOES HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FUND NONPROFITS ON A GOING BASIS THE IDEA SHOULD SHALL THAT THEY BE SELF-SUSTAINABLE IF THE COUNTY DOESN'T PICK THEM UP AGAIN. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHELBY, YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT NAY BE TAKEN CARE OF. RELATED TO THIS MOTION. WHEN YOU ARE DONE, I WOULD LIKE TO ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I DID ALSO -- WHAT FOLKS HAVE SAID WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON ON RECURRING FUNDING. I GOT LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE $57,000 FOR THE PENGUIN PROJECT, THE ARTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT TO BE PERMANENT EVERY YEAR AND I THINK THEY KNOW THAT BUT IT IS TRUE. SOME WE WANT IT TO BE, PERFECT EXAMPLE THE YBOR CITY MUSEUM. EVERY YEAR FUNDED. INCREASED TO $150,000. THERE ARE SOME THAT SHOULD BE EVERY YEAR. AND WE HAVE GREAT WORKS. THIS SHOULD HELP YOU FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND THAT IS, FIRINGS. THIS IS ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN THERE EVERY YEAR. WE DO SOMETHING -- IF NOT AT THE PRESENT LEVEL, LOWER LEVELS, SOME CONTINUED SUPPORT. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. BE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I STILL HAVE MY LIGHT ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION PER SE. AND MAYBE MR. ROGERO, IF HE IS LISTENING, MISS OCEA OR MISS WYNN. IS THAT HOW YOU IT WORKS? .STEPPING-STONE WAS NOT PART OF THE BUDGET LAST FISCAL YEAR. MR. CLENDENIN MADE A MOTION SAYING I MOVE TO GIVE THEM $57,000. CAN'T BE AS SIMPLE AS THAT. BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I ASKED FOR MONEY FOR WILL BE THE SAME TYPE OF MOTION. I DON'T THINK THAT IS HOW IT WORKS UNLESS THERE IS -- MR. -- ATTORNEY -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO GO BACK AND CIRCLE. EVEN $57,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO BE EVEN MORE TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC PER SE. I ASKED FOR $5,000 FOR MY ORGANIZATIONS AND I UNDERSTAND -- I SAID THIS EVEN TO THE MAYOR. YOU CAN DO A LITTLE WAY LOT. I KNOW AS AN EDUCATOR. $5,000 IS SUPPORT. WE ARE HERE TO SAY WE BELIEVE IN YOU. WE LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. ADD THIS TO THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT YOU HAVE. WE ARE NOT HERE TO FEED ANY SINGLE ORGANIZATION IN THAT WAY. SOME OF THE PEOPLE -- THE YBOR -- WHAT DID YOU SAY, MUSEUM? YEAH, THE YBOR MUSEUM. IT IS LIKE -- I WOULD WANT TO KNOW -- WHO ELSE ARE YOU GETTING MONEY FROM? ARE YOU EXPECTING THE CITY TO FUND YOU YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR WHERE THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT GET ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE DIME FOR US. WE CAN'T SAY, WELL, I LIKE ONE AND YOU SHOULD FUND IT UNLESS WE ALL HAVE -- DO NOT BANG ME -- UNLESS WE ALL HAVE OUR -- OUR OWN SET OF DOLLARS THAT WE CAN -- THAT WE CAN LOOK AT FOR OURSELVES AND SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, AS A PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR AS COUNCILMEMBER. BECAUSE THAT -- THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL WILL BE EVEN MORE BEN FISH SMALL. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO YOU. AND THEY ARE SAYING IT. THIS LIST HAS BEEN AROUND ANTICS EXTREMELY LONG TIME. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, SOME OF THE PRESIDENTS OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS MAKE A LOT OF MONEY WITH A NONPROFIT AND HERE IT IS. WHAT ARE WE FUNDING AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING. I AM NOT QUESTIONING THEIR WORK, BUT THE QUESTION OF WHY THEY FEEL THE CITY YEAR AFTER YEAR WITHOUT HAVING TO DO ANYTHING. WITHOUT HAVING AN AGREEMENT, YOU KNOW, TO GET DOLLARS. DOES HAVE TO END THIS PROCESS HE -- MR. CLENDENIN MAKING A MOTION. I CAN'T SUPPORT IT IN THAT WAY UNLESS BUDGET IS COMING BACK TO US GOING, YES, WE DO HAVE ROOM IN OUR BUDGET OR WE HAVE A SURPLUS. BECAUSE WHEN THE MILLAGE DIDN'T PASS, ALL OF THE NEW FUNDING WENT AWAY FOR NONGOVERNMENTAL FUNDS. I SUPPORT I SAID THAT. I VISITED THEM. IT IS THAT EASY AND, AND I WILL COME UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND WILL DO THE SAME EXACT THING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ADDRESS THAT FIRST. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL HEAR FROM MR. SHELBY FIRST. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A ANSWER UNDER THE CHARTER THAT MAY AFFECT YOUR QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION. FIRST LET ME SAY WITH THE EXPENDITURE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, IT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THE MUNICIPAL PERKS OPPOSED TO A POT OF MONEY SAYING I LIKE THIS ORGANIZATION AND I WOULD LIKE TAXPAYER FUNDS. WITH A BUDGET WITH REGARD TO FY '25. WITH REGARDS TO THAT WHEN PRESENTED WITH THE BUDGET, YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT. YOUR MOTION IS FROM FY '24. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUDGETED MONEY OUT OF SOCIAL SERVICES MONEY. WE HAVE -- I ACTUALLY SPOKEN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS EXCESS MONEY, ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS. AND IN -- IT WASN'T A BUDGET LINE, BUT THE MONEY HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE EXCESS MONEY THERE. SO THIS IS JUST USING THE BUDGETED EXCESS MONEY AND LONG ITEMING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE SAYING A SOCIAL SERVICES LINE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THAT HAS MONEY IN IT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU GO THERE. BECAUSE THIS MAY FACTOR IN. WITH REGARD FOR THAT, I KNOW THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH NOT-FOR-PROFITS, A LINE IN THE BUDGET ON THE LINE ITEM PAGE FOR NONDEPARTMENTAL EXPENDITURES. WHEREBY LINE BY LINE, WE CAN SEE WHAT MONEY THE NOT-FOR-PROFITS GET. WHAT YOU MAY BE SAYING IS TRUE AND I AM NOT AWARE OF IT. WHAT I AM FAMILIAR WITH IS THAT ONCE YOU ADOPT A FISCAL BUDGET FOR A FISCAL YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT ON ITS OWN VOLITION DO BUDGET CHANGES AND SECTION 7.07 OF YOUR CHARTER SAYS UNDER BUDGET CHANGES, THE CITY COUNCIL, UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAYOR SHALL HAVE THE POWER FROM TIME TO TIME OF FISCAL YEAR ADOPTION OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET FROM RESOLUTION TO REAPPROPRIATE FOR ANY MUNICIPAL PURPOSE ANY FUNDS NOT NEEDED FOR THE PURPOSE ORIGINALLY APPROPRIATED OR TO APPROPRIATE ANY UNAPPROPRIATED CASH, SURPLUS TO ANY MUNITION PAL PURPOSE. YOUR AGENDA ON THE CONSENT DOCKET IS FILLED WITH BUDGET AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW AS THAT MOTION STANDS WITHOUT BEING AMENDED, WOULDN'T THAT BE -- NOW THE MAYOR. I AM ASKING. FOR 24. THE MAYOR WILL COME BACK AND SAY NO. AND NOT RECOMMEND IT. AND SHE WOULD HAVE THE ULTIMATE POWER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ULTIMATELY, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY HER IN ORDER TO COME TO YOU. YOU CAN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND REQUEST. A LOT OF THE MOTION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION UNDER THIS CHARTER ARE IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST FOR ADMINISTRATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO I NEED TO REWORD MY MOTION TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHARTER? >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IN MY OPINION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH MERE MISSION OF THE PERSON WHO SECONDED THIS. I AMEND, TO RECOMMEND THAT THE MAYORAL KATE $57,000 OUT OF FISCAL YEAR '24 MONEY TO STEPPING STONES AND ALSO, THE BUDGET PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTENING ADDRESS THIS IN '25 AS WELL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HALF THE YEAR. ANOTHER ONE CAN COME IN AND SAY THE SAME THING. WE START CHAIN THAT IS NEVER GOING TO END. I DON'T MIND AND 12 MONTHS BETTER PART OF THE YEAR. IF YOU TALK OF YEAR, MONTH BY MONTH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM. WAIT A MINUTE. SHE IS SPEAKING AND I WILL ASK FOR CLARITY. YES, MA'AM. OF. >>GWEN HENDERSON: MISS WYNN, WHEN YOU STOOD UP AND YOU SAID YOU WERE WORKING ON THIS. GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL WITH THAT, PLEASE. >>OCEA WYNN: I AM WORKING WITH THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO SEE IF ANY FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE I DON'T KNOW -- WE CAN'T SPEAK BUDGET BUT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER. HE KNOWS OF THE REQUEST AND I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO COLLABORATE MORE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THIS MOTION -- I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE MEMORIALIZES WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TO THE EXTENT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COME AND ASK US FOR HELP THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN JUST SAY NO. AND THIS ONE I AM JUST SAYING YES TO. SO I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS. IT FORMALIZES WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I THINK THAT IS GREAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: AND I THINK -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS WYNN. >>OCEA WYNN: SAID HOW MUCH FUNDING. $75,000 IS GREAT, $15,000 GREAT. TO WORK WITH HOW MUCH FUNDING IS AVAILABLE TO GIVE TO THE ORGANIZATION THIS YEAR. AND THEN IF THERE IS NONE AVAILABLE, THEN, OF COURSE, ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY. >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >> I THINK -- IF THE ADMINISTRATION AGREES, WE WILL INDUSTRIAL TO DO A CHANGE OF BUDGET APPROVAL. SO IT WILL COME BACK US TO TODAY. THE OTHER THING IS WE ALL SAW IN PUBLIC COMMENT WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING OF THE COMMUNITY AND FOLKS WANT JOBS AND AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. IN PARTICULAR, WE KNOW THAT SUL SPRINGS NEEDS SOMETHING AND NOT A LINE-UP OF EVERY NONPROFIT, IT IS HELP IN THE SHORT TERM TO STOP SPECIFIC PROBLEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT. THE QUORUMS THAT THE POLICE HAVE BEEN HAVING. PEOPLE TALK OF THE KIND OF AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND FIND JOBS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SPO THIS. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU ABLE TO COME BACK BY JUNE 6 WITH THE ANSWER? >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, EITHER THE CFO OR I WILL COME BACK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL MAKE THE MOTION TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR FISCAL '24 AND COME BACK ON JUNE 6 FOR THE ANSWER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COLLAR THEE ON THE MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE. OPPOSED? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM OPPOSED ON THE YEAR THING -- HALF A YEAR LEFT. YOU CAN'T SAY '24 BECAUSE -- YOU HAVE OTHER -- OTHER SAME TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD OR NOT, THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION. OTHER 501 C 3S THAT SAY WAIT A MINUTE. I WANTED 30. AND WANTED 15. YOU GAVE THE OTHER 15 AWAY. YOU ARE STARTING A CONVOLUTED THING. I KNOW IT IS NOT THE INTENT OF THE MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY DURING THE SUMMER PROGRAMS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAD WE GIVEN IT IN THE FALL. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THE USE OF THE MONEY BUT THE PRINCIPLE OF WHAT OTHERS WILL COME AND ASK YOU FOR THAT YOU GAVE THEM HALF OF WHAT THEY WANTED AND THEN GIVING THEM TOTAL OF HALF A YEAR WITHIN SIX MONTHS. THAT'S ALL. JUST A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON HOW YOU DO IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION PASSES WITH ONE MEMBER VOTING NO, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO CLARIFY. GUILT AHEAD AND SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO COME TO US ANY SFAPD WAY FOR APPROVAL UNDER CONSENT. MISS WYNN, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A MOTION BUT MAKE SURE IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT ALL THE FUNDS IN THE SIX ORGANIZATION, IT WILL BE NICE FOR THOSE TO BE PRESENTED THAT THE SAME TIME AS WELL. I AM NOT FORCING IT TO BE A MOTION. >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 82 AND 83, WE DISCUSSED. COUNCILMAN CARLSON WOULD MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE MEETING REGARDING THOSE. ITEM NUMBER 84, WE DISCUSSED. YEAH, CONTINUED. ITEM NUMBER 85. WE HAVE ANDREA ZELMAN, OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR 85. GO AHEAD. >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SET THIS UP. THIS IS ABOUT THE RESIDENCY. AND I NKNOW ONE OR MORE OF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IN GENERAL. THE VOTERS VOTED TWO OR THREE TIMES FOR A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RESIDENCY RIESHLT, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO PUT ON THE BALLOT TO HAVE THE VOTERS TAKE OFF. ALL THIS IS TRYING DO IS KNOWING THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE -- OF THE CHARTER, HOW DO WE GOD PHI IT THE SAME WAY WE GOD PHI OTHER THINGS. THE MEMO THAT. IT IS ALREADY CODIFIED IN MANY WAYS AND THE ONLY PIECE IS A FORM. AND THE FORMAT, THERE IS A STAFF PERSON THAT QUALITIES THE FOLKS AND ASKS THEM IF THEY COMPLY AND WE MARK IT DOWN. THAT PASSES ON THE LIABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT PERSON. AND ALL THIS DOES AN OFFICE THAT MISS ZELLEMAN THAT THE PERSON MEETS THE REQUIREMENT. NOT A NEW REQUIREMENT AND THE PENALTIES ARE NOT NEW. THEY ALL EXISTED ALREADY. ALL IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNS OFF THAT THEY DID IT, NOT SOMEONE ELSE SIGNING OFF FOR THEM. AND SO UNLESS MISS ZELMAN WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDED FORM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE MISS ZELMAN. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. HE SUMMARIZED IT WELL. I WILL REMIND THAT -- ANDREA ZELMAN, SORRY, CITY ATTORNEY. COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MADE A FOR US TO COME BACK ON JUNE 6 TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT IS POSSIBLE TO REDUCE THE LIST OF THOSE WHO ARE SUBJECT TO THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT. SO WE -- WE WILL BE DISCUSSION THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS AGAIN, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF TODAY, I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON SUMMARIZED THE ISSUE WELL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE TOLERANCE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: >>BILL CARLSON: DOES IT HAVE A SECOND. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A -- MY MOTION IS TO -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL SECOND WITH A DISCUSSION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND? GO AHEAD, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO MY POINT IS CLEAR. I HEARD IT FROM SOMEBODY AND I DON'T KNOW WHO I HEARD IT FROM THAT WE OUTLIVED THE USEFULNESS OF THIS. THAT THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. THE CITY OF TAMPA, OUR BOUNDARIES, NOT LIKE BEFORE MR. GRECO AND. IT WAS CONVOLUTED CITY AND WHETHER YOU ARE IN AND OUT. AND WE ARE BIG METROPOLITAN AREAS NOW. AND WHAT IMPACTS THE CITY OF TAMPA IF YOU LIVE SLIGHTLY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF WHATEVER, YOU ARE STILL BEING IMPACT BY THE CITY. IN THE SAME MEDIA MARKET. YOU ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME LIFE THE REST OF US ARE. I THINK I WILL BE FOLLOWING BE ON THE -- ON THE SIDE OF A VOTE IF WE WERE TO PUT THIS BEFORE THE VOTE AGAIN CHARTER AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT HELPS WITH US THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST CANDIDATE. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN. THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD FOR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO MOVE PAST THIS AND THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND HENDERSON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME PUT THIS WAY IF I REMEMBER. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST. THAT PERSON LIVES ONE BLOCK OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. THAT COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT, WHICH IS MUCH CLOSER THAN ANYTHING ELSE WE H HAVE. THAT PERSON WILL SAY, I LIVE HERE. I GOT A HOUSE HERE. BUT I NEED TO MOVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. I EITHER EXPECT TO TO PAY RENT AND LIE TO MYSELF BECAUSE THE SALARY THEY GIVE ME IS NOT COMMENSURATE WHERE I AM AT, WHY SHOULD I APPLY. THAT PERSON MAY BE THE BEST PERSON OPINION WE ARE CUTTING -- I UNDERSTAND THERE HAS TO BE A VOTE TAKEN AT ELECTION TIME WHETHER THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE CHARTER -- IS A CHARTER, ISN'T IT? I SEE 601 AND 03, ASSUME IT IS IN THE CHARTER. >> YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A CHARTER THING THAT WILL HAVE TO COME UP. DOES IT HAVE TO COME UP IN THE CITY ELECTION OR ANY. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IT CAN BE DONE IN NOVEMBER. BUT IF COUNCIL IS GOING THERE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST ASKING. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE INTO NEED THAT VERY QUICKLY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO, I AM JUST ASKING. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IT WOULD, YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. IF YOU WERE REAL LEGAL LOOKING TO HAVE A TOP-NOTCH, WHY -- THE AREA -- YOUR SQUEEZING IT TO AN AREA SO SMALL, COMPARED TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ARE SMALL IN LANDWISE. WE ARE ONLY ABOUT A THIRD OF THE POPULATION IN THE COUNTY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND LINEAR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE UP VERTICAL, RIGHT. LINEAR GETS MIXED UP WITH LINE IN MY MIND. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THENkt. >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, THE MAJORITY OF THE THE STAFF LIVE IN THE CITY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. LESS THAN TEN PEOPLE IN THE LIST THAT EVEN NEEDED THE WAIVER. AM I CORRECT OF THAT? ABOUT TEN -- I THINK IT WAS LESS THAN TEN. THE I THINK THAT STANDS OUT IN MY MIND, WE WERE IN A HOUSING CRISIS. SO FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FALL INTO THAT BE PARTICULAR CATEGORY TO TRY TO LOOK FOR A HOUSE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WILL BE PUTTING NEWS A VERY, VERY CHALLENGING SITUATION. YOU CAN LOSE A BID ON THE HOUSE. I SAW A WOMAN ON THE NEWS ATTEMPTED 20 TIMES TO BUY A HOUSE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LOST OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BIDDING PROCESS. A FINANCIAL ISSUE WHERE WE SHOULDN'T HOLD -- PIGEONHOLE PEOPLE TO THIS PROCESS AND LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. I CAN SEE IT NO, SIR THE NECESSARY ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF THE STAFF DOES LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: TO REMIND EVERYBODY. THAT WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHARTER. THAT IS ANOTHER TIME. SOMEBODY ELSE CAN PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. IT HAS BEEN VOTED ON TWO TWO OR THREE TIMES AND A SEPARATE DISCUSSION. ONLY DISCUSSION TODAY IS THE PROCESS SINCE IT IS LAW. JUST LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER LAWS WE NEED TO CELEBRATE AND THE CURRENT PROCESS THAT I HAVE TO ASK YOU. AND THANK YOU MISS ZELMAN FOR KNOWING THAT. ONCE A YEAR A STAFF PERSON CALLS UP REACH /* EACH OF THOSE FOLKS. THE DIFFERENCE NOW, WON'T BE ON A PERSON TO CALL THEM BUT A FORM WE WILL CALL ON THEMSELVES. NOT VOTING ON WHETHER WE WANT THIS OR NOT OR VOTING ON ACCEPTING THE FORM THAT IS RECOMMENDED TO US. THAT'S IT SO ITSELF REPORTED RESPONSIBLE OF COLLECTING IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUESTION BUILDINGkt AT ALL. BUT I AM LOOK CAN AT THE FORM. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU SHOULD HAVE IT. ATTACHED TO THE MEMO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE WRITTEN HOW IT IS. WITHIN 30 DAYS' NOTICE, AND MAKING FALSE STATEMENT OF IMMEDIATE TERMINATION OF RETURNING TO CITY OF TAMPA AND EMPLOYEE OF ONE YEAR FOLLOWING TERMINATION. IS THAT WHAT IT SAY AS SOON AS. >>BILL CARLSON: ALL OF THOSE ROLES -- >>ANDREA ZELMAN: A FORM AND PLACE FOR A NOTARY SIGNATURE AT THE BOTTOM. >>BILL CARLSON: ALL THE RULES ARE THE EXISTING RULES IN THE MANUAL. ALL WE ARE DOING IS GETTING THE PERSON TO FILL OUT THE FORM THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF THE STAFFER DO DOING. >> I AM HAPPY THEY SHOULD HAVE THIS WHEN YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AS A CANDIDATE. AND HAVE YOU SIGN IT AS PENALTY OF LAW. IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY YOU SAY YOU ARE. IN IS ONLY FOR A DEPARTMENT OR PERSONS LIVING HERE. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER OFFICIALS IN THEY SHOULD SIGN WITH YOU A WANT HERE. WHAT WE WANT HERE. YOU ARE JUST THE PERSON WHO CALLED IT, OR WROTE IT. YOU SIGN THIS. ELECTED OFFICIAL. >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SEPARATE ISSUE. I AM GOING TO SAY THAT IS GOVERNED BY ELECTION LAW AND THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS HAS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN'T FOR THIS UNLESS THE EMPLOYEE OF THE PEOPLE SEEKING OFFICE DO THE SAME THING. I AM NO BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. MA. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THAT. WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THIS. SHEFLZ SHELBY I AM SORRY, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. THE ELECTION OFFICER FOR THE CITY. IF THAT IS A CONCERN WE WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THE SUPERVISOR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE OR SHE, BUT IF YOU PUT IT IN ARCH ORDINANCE IT. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE ARE NOT PUTTING IT AN ORDINANCE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT'S WHERE THIS STARTED AND I EXPLAINED TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IT IS -- IT IS ALREADY KCODIFIED IN THE CHARTER. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU PUT THE MAYOR AND -- I WILL VOTE CONTINUE TO TEN TIMES. >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T CARE. OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS BY CHARTER THE MAYOR RUNS THE ADMINISTRATION, NOT US. THE MAYOR USE THIS FORM WITHOUT OUR VOTE, BUT THE IDEA IS TO AGREE WITH THE FORM. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TAKES FIVE VOTES TO OVERRIDE THE -- IT TAKES SEVEN VOTES TO OVERRIDE ARE THE MAYOR. >>BILL CARLSON: EVEN IF WE VOTE UNANIMOUSLY. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO BE CLEAR, ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THE FORM. THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORITY OVER ALL THESE PERSONNEL ISSUES. AND THE FORM WAS ALREADY DESIGNED TO BE -- TO GO INTO EFFECT. CHANGE COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS SUGGEST SOMETHING JUST FOR COUNCIL TO AGREE THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AND IF IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARTER AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ZELMAN'S TEAM WROTE IT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO VOTE FOR IT BUT AS LONG AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT HERE, I WON'T SUPPORT IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS WORTHY OF A WORKSHOP TO EXPAND THIS. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY HARM DOING WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON ASKS US. WHEN WE TALK OF THIS RESIDENCY, CARROT VERSUS STICK. I KNOW I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE CHIEF OF A WITH THIS. A COLA FOR THOSE LIVE IN THE CITY, USE IT AS AN INCENTIVE INSTEAD OF PENALTY. WE KNOW COST OF LIVING WITHIN THE CITY. IN LIEU OF OTHER TYPES OF COMPENSATION, INCENTIVES AND INCREASES, WE CAN LOOK AT REWARDING TIME LIVE IN THE CITY. SOMETHING WE CANNED INTO A WORKSHOP AS WELL. I AM 23409 GOING TO DO THAT TODAY BUT JUST SOMETHING -- SOMETHING TO KEEP YOUR MIND TO AND THINK ABOUT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OWE SUPPOSED TO WHAT MR. CARLSON IS SAYING. 30% OR MAYBE HIGHER OF ALL OF EMPLOYEES THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA UNLESS YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE IN 1950 AND 1906 AND HAVEN'T SOLD IT. IF YOU DID, YOU CAN'T BUY ANOTHER ONE NOR WHAT YOU SOLD IT FOR. DOESN'T WORK. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAY LET'S CALL THE QUESTION. >>BILL CARLSON: THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE FORM. SO HE APPROVAL OF THE FORM THAT THE STAFF CREATED. BE IT DOESN'T INCLUDE NEW RULES OR ANYTHING, IT ALLOWS -- SUPPORTS THE STAFF'S EFFORT HE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REQUEST HE BHANS CALLED. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT WITH ONE CALF THAT THE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TELL ME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOU READY? I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE. YOU WROTE THIS -- I AM NOT QUESTIONING IT AT ALL. DO YOU THINK THAT IF IT IS JUST A FORM, DOES IT CARRY WEIGHT IN THE COURT OF LAW? >> WHAT I EXPLAINED IN THE MEMO, UNDER OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL. IF SOMEONE WAS TO SIGN THIS FORM AND MAKE -- BASICALLY MAKE AN UNTRUE STATEMENT ABOUT THEIR RESIDENCY UNDER OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL, SUBJECTED TO DISMISSAL. AND ON THE FORM THEY ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS THE CASE. SOMEONE LIE ABOUT THEIR RESIDENCY. >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROCESS NOW THEY CAN TELL A STAFF PERSON AND ARGUE THE SAME THING THAT THEY DIDN'T TELL THE SAME THING TO IT THE STAFF PERSON. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THING PASSED AND WE NEED TO MOVE ON. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT A QUESTION, MR. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM FINE. LET ME READ THIS. DEFINE THE PROOF OF RESIDENCY AS HOMESTEAD EXEMPT PROPERTY. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, NO, THAT IS NOT ON ON THE FORM. THE ORIGINAL -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID EARLIER I DIDN'T HAVE THE FORM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. COPY IS DIFFERENT. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I BROUGHT AN EARLIER VERSION MIRANDA VIERA IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT, I AM FINE. WRITE A CHECK. GIVE THE MONEY BACK AND YOU HAVE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT. GIVE ME BREAK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU A UNANIMOUS YES VOTE. >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ON YOUR HONOR TODAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 86, COUNCILMAN VIERA'S ITEM. >>LUIS VIERA: A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. MYSELF, MY AIDE, BRANDON AND MR. SHELBY. I WANT TO THANK MARTIN SHELBY FOR THE WORK HE HAS DONE ON THIS. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. AND SO I THINK MR. SHELBY, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE 09 ME90% OF WHA WANT TODAY AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT VERY BRIEFLY. THE ISSUE OF THE FACILITATOR, MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- IS SERVE AWARE OF COMMUNITY TAMPA BAY? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE SPEAKING OF THEM. WE THINK WE WILL BRING THAT IN NOR A LANDING. WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET. SO MR. SHELBY, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE FACILITATOR VOTED ON, THE CONTRACT OR THE RESOLUTION FOR THE FACILITATOR VOTED NONTWO WEEKS? BECAUSE WE CAN'T NEXT -- ON IN TWO WEEKS. BECAUSE WE CAN'T NEXT WEEK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 6 OR JUNE 20. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO WEEKS I THINK IS RATHER SHORT, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO -- WE HAVE TO GET OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IN WRITING FROM THEM AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN A FORM THAT ALLOWS THE -- THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO -- WE HAVE TO PUT IT IN A FORM WHERE YOU PASS IT BY RESOLUTION. AND THEN -- I GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING OTHER ITEMS IN ADDITION TO THE APPOINTMENT. YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE FUNDING. FOR THAT. >> SO -- SO, YES, WHAT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT IS THEIR BUDGET. AND FOR BACKGROND, COMMUNITY TAMPA BAY DOES A LOT OF WORK IN THE COMMUNITY ON ISSUES JUST LIKE INVOLVING EQUITY, INCLUSION, DIFFICULT DISCUSSIONS, ETC. AS -- GAVE ME AWARD TWO WEEKS AGO AND HAD NOTHING DO WITH OBVIOUSLY PICKING THEM OUT. THEY ARE A BRAL ORGANIZATION. AND MY GOOD FRIEND TAMMY BRYANT HELPS RUN THAT ORGANIZATION WITH SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE. AND THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE BROUGHT -- WHEN DO YOU THINK, SIR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING ELSE ON JUNE 6. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK JUNE 6 IS SUFFICIENT TIME. I THINK JUNE -- HERE IS MY RECOMMENDATION. MY RECOMMENDATION IS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS. AND DEPENDING ON IF THOSE MOTIONS PASS DETERMINE WHAT WE CAN BRING BACK. MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT I WILL GET MORE INFORMATION WITH BRANDON, JORDAN, YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL EITHER AT THE NEXT NIGHT MEETING OR THE 6th AND HAVE IF PUT ON FOR THE NEXT -- AS SOON AS POSSIBLE HAVE IN THAT PROCESS. >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THAT MR. SHELBY AFTER A LAND USE HEARING YOU REPORT ON THE STATUS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. PUT IN TIME, ETC. AND WE CAN DO THAT AND MAKE THE MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT THURSDAY EVENING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT TOMORROW. >>LUIS VIERA: REMEMBER, I WOKE UP IN TEXAS TODAY. I AM VERY TIRED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN VIERA, MY SUGGESTION FOR YOU IS TO PRESENT THE MOTION THAT YOU HAVE. I PRESENTED THE RESOLUTION. I DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS. WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA IS TO -- TO REPORT SPECIFICALLY ON THE MEMBERSHIP. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THAT WHERE YOU CAN BRING THAT HOME TODAY AND MAKE THAT CLEAR. >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL. AND EVERYONE PUT IN THEIR -- THEIR COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT I KNOW REFLECT WHAT THEIR VISION IS FOR THIS COMMITTEE. KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS NOT HERE AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT DARYL WHO SHE PUT ON THERE AND A MAN WHO DID A LOT TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. I SAY THAT BECAUSE COUNCILMAN SHURZ NOT HERE. I WILL SAY THAT AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, THE ONE I WAS IMPRESS BY WAS CHERYL RODRIGUEZ. >>GWEN HENDERSON: OF COURSE. >>LUIS VIERA: SHE'S WONDERFUL LADY. I MEAN THAT. SHE IS AWESOME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THOUGHT I HAD THE BEST. >>LUIS VIERA: DR. CHERYL RODRIGUEZ. SHE IS PRETTY COOL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE THE BEST. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I MOVE THIS RESOLUTION 2024. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>LUIS VIERA: MAKING OFFICIAL THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY LAST -- JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW. INITIALLY I HAD -- A NAME HAD BEEN SUBMITTED THAT PERSON HAD PERSONAL CONFLICT THAT HAD TO WITHDRAW, SUB IS HE WON'T DO THAT, I NAMED MALIK MOORE WHO IS ACTUALLY IN THE AUDIENCE. STAND UP FOR A SECOND -- AS YOU DON'T KNOW IS WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE DIANE HART. AND HAPPY TO TELLING THAT Y YOU MALIK IS 4 YEARS OLD. BRINGS A YOUTH PERSPECTIVE TO THE COMMITTEE WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHTS WAS VERY VALUE IN HIS INPUT. -- SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT NAME THERE, BUT I AM ESPECIALLY THAT MALIK ACCEPTED THAT CHALLENGE WITH THE SUPPORT OF HIS BOSS, DIANE. AND THE EXPERIENCE HE WHAT IS TALL SASSY. CONNECTION WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND A VERY KEY MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT IS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN MISS DIANE HEART. THANK YOU, MALIK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. AYE. >>LUIS VIERA: A SPECKED MOTION I HAVE TO MAKE ON THIS, IF YOU MAY MR. SHE WILL SEE ABOUT, I MOVE FOR ADMINISTRATION TO SUBMIT A MID-YEAR BUDGET RESOLUTION FOR PRESENTATION CITY COUNCIL FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET RELATED TO OUR CITY OF TAMPA RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. AND MR. SHELBY YOU INDICATED $15,000. DO WHICH -- WE WON'T NEED IT BUT $25,000 SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK. FOR THE FACILITATOR. IT IS EXPENSIVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM IN THE WRONG BUSINESS. >>LUIS VIERA: THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. >>GWEN HENDERSON: RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE. >> I RECOMMENDED 15,000. >> I DISCUSSED -- I DISCUSSED THE FIGURE WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE AID. WE HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS AS BALL PARK PRESENTED TO US. WE CRUNCHED THE NUMBERS DETERMINING HOW MANY MEETINGS. AND WE PUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONTINGENCY IN THERE AND THE THING IS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SIR. IF NOT ENOUGH MONEY AND IN FACT WE NEED IT, YOU WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A BUDGET AMOUNT. >>ILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD DO $25,000. YOU AND I DO THIS FOR A LIVING. MORE TIME CONSUMING. NOT JUST THE TIME YOU SPEND IN THE MEETING, BUT SPEND TIME WORKING WITH THE BOARD MEMBERS AND OTHERS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL SUPPORT $25,000. BETTER TO BE SAFE. >>LUIS VIERA: NO OBJECTION TO THAT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON. ANY OPPOSE? I WILL SIGN THIS RESOLUTION AFTER THE MEETING. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 87. THIS IS FOR THE -- IS FOR THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY RIVER AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE APPLI APPLICANTS. WHO WILL BE BRINGING IT UP. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOBODY IS BRINGING THIS UP. THIS IS UNUSUAL. NOT A STANDING BOARD THAT YOU HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR. THIS IS FOR THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER BOARD. AND -- AND I BELIEVE GENTLEMAN WHO HAS SERVED ON IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME RICHARD FORMICA WILL BE STEPPING DOWN. SO THAT -- IF YOU WANT TO -- IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM APPEAR, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN INVITED. IF YOU WANT THIS TOME APPEAR, THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANTED TO BE IN TOUCH WU PERSONALLY OR COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT. COULD YOU PREPARE TODAY TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A SPECIFIC CANDIDATE, CAN I DO THAT NOW? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ABSOLUTELY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I AM GOING TO PASS THIS GAVEL AND MAKE A MOTION NOR JOEL -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU YET. CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MAKE MOTION FOR JOEL BROWN. >> SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:S WE TECO. >>BILL CARLSON: JOEL WORKED WITH S.W.F.W.M.D. BEFORE. SO HE KNOWS ABOUT WATER. HE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF WATER FROM A PROFESSIONAL POINT OF VIEW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, HE HAS I THINK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION A SECOND, A DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I CAME HERE COMMITTED. AND I THINK THE WORLD OF JOEL. AS A DISCLOSURE, I CALLED HIM AND I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW YOU APPLIED WITH THIS WHEN I MADE A COMMITMENT FOR CARRIE LEWIS. JOEL IS SO WONDERFUL. SO WRAUL THAT I CALLED HIM. NOTHING AGAINST JOEL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: EACH OF THESE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING THEMSELVES. NOT REPRESENTING THEIR ORGANIZATIONS. INDIVIDUALS? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A NEED. IF THEY WANTED TO BE HERE, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS THEY WERE -- ALL -- TOTAL DISCLOSURE, THEY WERE NOT INVITED TO APPEAR FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE LIKE WOULD YOU HAVE IF IT WAS REGULAR BOARD. BUT IF YOU DO WANT TO DO THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE PUT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THE RACIAL RECREATION COMMITTEE AND THEY ARE NOT HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE FOR THE CRA BECAUSE THEY ARE INVITED. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM OKAY WITH THE QUESTION. SO IS THERE -- WOULD ANYONE FROM THIS COUNCIL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION DIFFERENT THAN THIS? RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT IS ON THE TABLE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE ONLY THING ON THE TAB TABLE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS MAY NOT AFFECT YOUR DECISION, BUT I NEED TO TELL THAT YOU MR. FORMICA WILL BE LEAVING AND THAT POSITION WILL NOT BE FILLED. DOWN THE ROAD IF THERE IS A NEED FOR A REPRESENTATIVE YOU WILL HAVE A VACANCY AT THE TIME. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LAST DAY JUNE 18. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BE A SENT A STICK TUITION MOTION. APPOINTMENT MUCH THE RIVER ADVISORY BOARD -- TAXABLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO WITH A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. YOU HAVE -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE DUTYS OF THIS POSITION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE RIVER BOARD. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS ON THE RIVER BOARD FOR FOUR YEARS AND I WAS JUST APPOINTED TO BE BACK ON THE RIVER BOARD. SO YOU HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM TEMPLE TERRACE, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA, THOSE WHO WORK THE PLANNING COMMISSION, DIFFERENT CAPACITIES. THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS. THEN YOU HAVE THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHICH WILL BE -- LIKE MR. FORMICA SERVED MAYBE 20 YEARS, MAYBE MORE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT LEAST 10. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG MR. FORMICA SERVED? HOW HOW LONG MR. FORMICA? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELLY, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY [LAUGHTER] >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT THE BOARD DOES, DOC PERMITS. YOU HAVE TECHNICAL ADVISORY MEMBERS THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE. THEY WOULD BE PARTICIPATING IN PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT THEY ARE THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT, AGAIN, TEMPLE TERRACE, HILLSBOROUGH. BUT THAT'S IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONCE AGAIN, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS THE APPOINTMENT. AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? WE HAVE ONE -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE SHAWN -- IT COLLEGE? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT MR. COLLEGE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. COLLEGE, HE IS WITH THE RIVER BOARD AND AND BEFORE THE COUNCIL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CHAIR CAN ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. WHAT YOU HAVE IS NOT A BALLOT BUT MAKING A MOTION. ANOTHER WAY IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT WITH A BALLOT, YOU CAN. WHAT YOU CAN DO -- AND I JUST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED BY MISS EDWARDS, THEY NEED SOMEBODY BY AUGUST. IF YOU WANT TO SET THIS FOR JUNE 16 WITH INVITATIONS FOR THEM TO COME IN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXCUSE ME, MR. SHELBY. WE ALREADY HAVE A VOTE AND CASTED, 6-1. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JOEL BROWN IS NOW THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENT FOR THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE ITEM NUMBER 88. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM. OH, I AM. IT IS NOT REAL LEGAL ME, IT IS YOU. I PRESENT TO YOU A DRAFT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE AMENDED AND RESTATED RULES OF PROCEDURE BASED ON THE ACTION SUMMARY, THE MINUTES OF YOUR SPECIAL CALLED MEETING THE BEGINNING OF LAST MONTH. AND YOUR PROCESS FOR AMENDMENT IS TO READ IT BY TITLE TODAY, AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO YOU ON JUNE 6 FOR A SECOND READING. AND THAT THE NEXT SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTER THAT ON THE 16th -- 20th TAKES EFFECT. IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS, SUBSTITUTIONS OR DELETIONS YOU MAY RAISE THEM ANY TIME BEFORE THEY ARE ADOPTED AND THESE ARE YOUR RULES. PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE RULES, THERE HAS BEEN A POINT MADE THAT THE CLERK EAVES WAS GOING TO -- GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN ASSISTING PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT CLERK'S OFFICE CLARIFIED THAT IN AN EMAIL SAYING THEY WERE NOT. SO I -- I ALWAYS ASKED THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED AND I GOT SHOT DOWN HARD IN FLAMES, BUT I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO REVISIT THAT DISCUSSION, TO ASSIST THE CLERK'S OFFICE IN ACCOMPLISHING THEIR DUTIES. SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY WITH IN TRANSCRIBING THAT -- WILL BE THE SPEAKER CARDS, THE REGISTRATION OF THE SPEAKER CARDS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE NAMES FILLED OUT. AND THAT WOULD ASSIST THEM GREATLY AND I HEARD THEIR PLEAS. AND I AM EMPATHETIC TO IT. BUT, AGAIN, I BROUGHT IT UP, I WILL NOT BRING IT UP AGAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND VIERA. YES, GO AHEAD. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO -- AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS, AND COUNCIL MAY NOT KNOW THIS, BUT IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE MAY BE WAYS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY ARE WORKING FOR TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE SORTS OF THINGS TO ASSIST THE CLERK. IT NAY BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE USEFUL FOR COUNCIL, BUT IT IS IN THE PROCESSS BEING FORMULATED. MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, YOU COULD TAKE ACTION ON THAT, BUT I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CLERK EAVES THAT THERE MAY BE WAYS THAT TECHNOLOGICALLY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY UNDERSTANDING A KIOSK, BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT IS IMMEDIATE. AND SO THIS WILL BE SORT OF A -- COULD BE EVEN -- EVEN IF THAT ULTIMATELY COMES TO PASS, A BRIDGE TO THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A GOOD POINT, SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED. WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING A LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR THE CHAIR, WHICH LISA WON'T LIKE, BECAUSE SHE LOVES SPENDING -- WORKING DOUBLE, TRIPLE TIME. BUT I KNOW THE CHAIR IS SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH THAT IDEA. IF WE HAVE A CHAIR'S AIDE THAT WILL FLOAT WITH THE CHAIR OR A TEMP THAT THE CLEAR MYERS, BUT THAT PERSON COULD HELP WITH THAT. AND ALSO HELP WITH THE OVERFLOW AND EVERYTHING. IT IS NOT FAIR -- NOW THIS IS A THIRD YEAR THAT LISA HAS DONE IT. NOT FAIR TO DUMP IT ON ANY OF THE AIDES BECAUSE IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB. COUNTY -- EACH OF THEM HAVE TWO AIDES. THE LEGISLATURE HAS SEVERAL. IT SEEMS -- WE ALL HAVE ONE AND THEY ARE MAXED TO OUT. IF WE HAD JUST AT THAT CHAIR'S AIDE, THEY COULD HELP WITH THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMETHING THAT I JUST DID THINK ABOUT WITH -- WITH SOMEONE BRAINSTORMING, AND YEAH, SOMETHING IT WOULD CONSIDER. I WOULD LIKE THE MOTION AND BRING IT UP, MEANING A LEGISLATIVE AIDE WHO TWRAFS WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS. kt DMARZ CHARGE OF RUNNING THE MEETING AND BUSINESS OF THE COUNCIL. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL CONSIDER THIS FOR WHAT IS ON THE TABLE. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DMR NEW BUSINESS AND FOR FISCAL YEAR '25. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP IN TWO YEARS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BY THE WAY I THINK LISA DOES A TREMENDOUS JOB WE SHOULD ADD TO HER DUTDUTIES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL MAY GO MOEKSZ MOTION FOR AT THAT COMME COMMENDATION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA? >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, THESE ARE ALL OF THE RULES WE VOTED ON AS A PACKAGE SHELBY ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR YOU SHELBY THE NAMES OF THE STANDING COMMITTEES WERE CONSISTENT WITH CHANGES AND THE COMMITTEES ARE PRETTY MUCH IDENTICAL BUT SOME OF THE HANGS IN HAVE CHANGED. PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REMAINS THE SAME. PUBLIC WORKS -- RATHER THAN GO THROUGH IT. LET ME SAY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IS THAT STORMWATER MOVES FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO THE MOBILITY AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND THAT IS WHERE STORMWATER TAKES PLACE. WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH TRANSPORTATION AND VIK BHIDE, WHO YOU -- WHO YOU JUST -- WHO YOU JUST SPENT TIME WITH TODAY IS NOW IN ARE CHARGE OF STORMWATER AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO HAD THAT AND BROUGHT THAT TO THEIR ATTENTION. OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE TO YOUR RULES, BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN HERE THAT HAVEN'T OTHER THAN THAT ALREADY DISCUSSED. THE ONLY THING THAT YOU REALLY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP TODAY WAS THE FACT OF THE TIMER. THE TIMER REFERS TO COMMENDATIONS. THE TIMER REFERS TO PRESENTATIONS UNDER COMMENDATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. REFERS TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT DOESN'T REFER TO STAFF REPORTS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT IN THE RULES, BUT A QUESTION TO BEGIN BEFORE SOMEBODY MAKES STAFF PRESENTATION, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU REQUIRE SO THEREFORE YOU SET THE TIMER FOR THAT PARTICULAR TIME. IF THEY NEED MORE ADDITIONAL TIME, IT IS UP TO COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. AND IF THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A THOUGHT OR SENTENCE OR THIS, AND THEY SAY I AM GOING TO WRAP IT UP IN 60, 30. WHATEVER IT IS, I WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE TO KEEP IT ORGANIZED. AT THE DISCRETION OF COUNCIL. THIS IS VERY LENGTHY AND WE NEED ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES. WE WILL TAKE FROM THERE. IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME. YES. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. I ASK THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT I VOTED AGAINST. I WILL VOTE FOR THE WHOLE THING, BECAUSE IT IS -- YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT 99% OF IT. I DO WANT TO RESTATE MY OBJECTION WITH THE ISSUE ON THE RESOLUTIONS. I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO TARGET THAT. BECAUSE I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE MOVE BY COUNCIL TO SAY THAT WE DON'T DO RESOLUTION IT IS IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, 100% RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS. I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY MISGUIDED. I DO WANT TO STATE MY OBJECTION TO THAT. IN EFFECT, WE ARE GIVING THE PUBLIC MORE -- I DOESN'T TO SAY EXPRESSION RIGHTS, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WHAT COUNCILMEMBERS ARE GOING TO GET AND, AGAIN, IF SOMETHING THAT WE OPPOSE, RIGHT. THAT SOMEBODY ASKS US TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD, WE CAN TELL THEM KNOW. NOW UNDER THIS RULE, WE CAN SAY WE HAVE TO SAY NO TO EVERYTHING. AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO SAY NO ON SOMETHING. BUT WHATEVER. THAT IS FINE. WITH REGARDS TO PUBLIC COMMENT. THE PHONE ISSUE BEING ABLE -- I WISH THERE WAS A WAY -- I AM NOT REOPENING THIS, BUT I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO LOOK AT PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NONQUASI JUDICIAL. YOU NEED A HARDSHIP. QUASI JUDICIAL, THAT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAVE VESTED RIGHTS AND ALL THAT STUFF AND WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THAT NECESSARILY AT ALL, BUT REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT, SOMEBODY HAS A HARDSHIP, DISABILITY AND CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, RIHT, HAVING THAT -- HAVING THAT -- I THINK WE TUTE LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE BUT AGAIN, I AM GLAD TO VOTE FOR THIS AND I DO SUPPORT AS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, THE CARD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I AM GLAD, IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP AGAIN FOR A VOTE. MAYBE RECONSIDERATION. TWO VOTES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM HAPPY TO SECOND YOUR NOTION. >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY. I DO MOTION TO HAVE -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD "RECONSIDERATION." BUT MOTION FOR US TO AMEND THE RULES TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD REGISTRATION. THAT'S IT. I WILL SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE BURDEN. NOT ANY KIND OF A BURDEN, PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU COMPARE US -- ONE SIDE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. THE OTHER SIDE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. I DON'T WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, OUR FRIENDS IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION. I JUST WANT TO GO HERE. THING GIVES US MORE GUARDRAILS. BROKEN WINDOWS, CAULKED OF JOHN WILSON WITH BROKEN WINDOWS. TAKE CARE OF LITTLE THINGS. WHICH HAVING THE CARDS, YOU PUT IN SOME ORDER INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU PUT IN THE IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF ORDER. IF YOU COME HERE AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A CARD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER BEFORE OR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND WHO YOU VOTED FOR IN THE 1988 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. JUST FILL OUT A CARD. NOT UNREASONABLE. HOW DOES THAT UNDERMINE. GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF ORDER. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SECOND THAT. AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE -- WE -- I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE RECOGNIZE. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT UNTIL I WILL GOT ON COUNCIL HOW MUCH WE BRDENED THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I MEAN, WE -- THE CLERK EAVES IS REALLY, REALLY TASKED BY A LOT -- SOME OF OUR WHIMSY AND THINGS THAT WE DO. AND THING IS A VERY MINOR EFFORT TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THEIR WORKLOAD AND THEIR ABILITY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY THAT WORKS AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND I HOPE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND. THIS IS FOR THE CARDS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MR. SHELBY, YOU HAVE THE PACKAGE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT. THAT WILL SHOW UP IN THE MINUTES. I WANTED TO BE A BE A CLEAR, UNANIMOUS WITH ONE ABSENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA SAID IT WAS OKAY. SO -- CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RULES AS PRESENTED BY MR. SHELBY? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TODAY IS READ THE TITLE, I WILL MAKE CHANGE THAT IF HE CAN -- AFEFFECTUATE AGAIN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN, DO YOU WANT TO READ IT? >>LUIS VIERA: PASS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING RULES OF PROCEDURES GOVERNING THE MEETINGS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF TAMPA PROVIDING. AGAIN I OBJECT AGAINST THE RESOLUTION BUT STILL VOTING AGAINST IT. . >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SPEEDY MOTION. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA. OKAY. JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, CHARGE MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST SOME SAD NEWS REGARDING THE PASSING OF MICHAEL SMITH, KNOWN AS M.D. HE WAS A -- AVENUES TPD OFFICER BEGINNING IN 1970. BUT WE KNEW HIM HERE AS A GENTLEMAN THAT STAYED WITH US AND PROTECTED US DURING MANY CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. HIS DAUGHTER, AS YOU KNOW, IS KIMBERLY SULLIVAN, HERE WITH THE CITY. SHE IS OUR EMPLOYEE RELATIONS MANAGER. AND THAT GENTLEMAN WAS ALSO FATHER-IN-LAW TO BRIAN SULLIVAN, OUR BELOVED BRIAN SULLIVAN WITH CCTV WHICH IS ON THE OTHER SIDE COUNTY WALL HERE. THE GENTLEMAN SPENT MORE THAN 50 YEARS WITH TPD AND HE PASSED AWAY, I BELIEVE, MAY 6. SO JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT HE SERVED FIVE YEARS AS A RESERVE OFFICER AT CITY COUNCIL. ALWAYS SMILING FACE. WONDERFUL GENTLEMAN. IF YOU KNEW HIM, YOU KNOW. ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE HIM. THE SERVICES WILL BE TOMORROW AT CONGREGATION SHARE AZEDIC RIGHT THERE ON SWANN. I DON'T HAVE A TIME. BUT PAUL BEARERS WILL BE THE TAMPA POLICE HONOR GUARD. HE WILL CERTAINLY BE MISSED BY MANY, MANY PEOPLE AND I WILL OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY. SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD CHAIRPERSON AND TPD COORDINATOR TO APPEAR AT THE JUNE 6 REGULAR SESSION MEETING WITH A TIME CERTAIN OF 10 A.M. TO PRESENT THEIR ANNUAL REPORT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSE? EYESES HAVE IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU. A BELATED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO COUNCILMEMBER BILL CARLSON AND AN EARLY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE LISA EDWARD. WE CAN CELEBRATE NEXT THURSDAY. I AM SURE WE WILL GET A CAKE. EARLY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND MY STEPDAUGHTER, WHITNEY. ONE DAY OFF. . >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY OTHERS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 12 YEARS OLD. AND FORMER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER MIKE SUAREZS IS CELEBRATING A BIRTHDAY ON MONDAY. I THINK I GOT EVERYBODY. AND MY LITTLE CALLS SIN HAD A BIRTHDAY THIS WEEK. [LAUGHTER] AND MY CHILDHOOD FRIEND FROM THE THIRD GRADE, HE TURNED -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOW YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK I GOT EVERYBODY. COUNCILMAN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MIRANDA MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR MR. RICHARD FORMICA THAT SERVED ON THE RIVER BOARD ADVISORY COUNCIL AS A VOLUNTEER. JUNE 18 IN THE ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO FLIGHT ATTENDANT COMMENDATION FOR MR. FORMICA ON THURSDAY, JUNE 20. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANYTHING ELSE, SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: FIRST, I GOT A TEXT FROM DARYL HEISH WHICH I DID SEND TO MY CITY PHONE, MR. SHELBY, WHERE HE END THE CAPED HE THOUGHT THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION WERE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED, ETC. MAY I JUST FOR HIS SAKE JUST READ THIS -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. HEISH REQUESTED IT. CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO APPOINTED JEFFREY JOHNSON. CLENDENIN BE,MALIK MOORE. LYNN HURTAK, MR. HEISH. CARLSON, MISS DONNIE BURTON. GWEN HENDERSON APPOINTED CHERYL RODRIGUEZ. CHARLIE MIRANDA APPOINTED BISHOP TOM SCOTT. I APPOINTED PASTOR CHRISTOPHER HARRIS. NAACP. AL ALERT . TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER FRED AMERICANS. IT BE COALITION OF CLERGY SUTTON FROM TPD AND MINISTRIES, ROBERT BLUNTED AND MR. RISING APPOINTED ROBIN LOCKET. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT AS GREAT COMMITTEE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY ANY ALL SERIOUS REASONS I DO HAVE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE AND I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT BACK BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE THEN AND IT IS APPROPRIATE NOW. COUNCIL, YOU JUST PASSED A RESOLUTION TODAY THAT -- IN IT SECTION 2 AS PROVISION SET FORTH IN RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-334 MUCH GOVERN THE CONDUCT OF THE COMMITTEE. THAT IS THE ONE THAT ESTABLISHED THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU PASSED IN APRIL. SO RESOLUTION -- WHATEVER RESOLUTION 220 NUMBER 568 DOES NOT GOVERN THIS COMMITTEE. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. BUT I DO WANT TO ALSO -- I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT SECTION BECAUSE IT IS VERY RELEVANT. IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE ON THE COMMITTEE ARE WATCHING, I WILL BE CONTACTING THEM BECAUSE IN SECTION 2, THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS -- OR THE LAST TWO SENTENCES SAY THE FOLLOWING. ALL MEETINGS AND DELIBERATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN OPEN -- OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. ALL MEMBERS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA PUBLIC RECORDS AND SUNSHINE LAWS. AND THE CODE OF ETHICS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. SO MY POINT IS, RESPECTFULLY WITH GREAT CONGRATULATIONS, I INFORM ALL MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE AS OF TODAY, YOU ARE NOW A SUNSHINE BOARD. WHICH YOU MAY NOT WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF THE SUNSHINE NOW CONDUCT BUSINESS THAT COULD REASONABLY COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. SO IN ADVANCE OF THE FIRST MEETING, I WILL TELL THAT YOU RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE IMPROPER AND VIOLATION OF FLORIDA STATUTES TO DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THAT MAY REASONABLY COME BEFORE THAT COMMITTEE WITHOUT BEING AT A NOTICED PUBLIC MEETING. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU. MR. SHELBY, MAY WE HAVE YOU WRITE THAT IN A LETTER TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO SEND OUT AN E-MAIL TOMORROW. >>LUIS VIERA: THEY WOULD HAVE NO IDEA. LISTEN, I AM AN ATTORNEY. I WAS ON THE CIVIL SERVICE REVIEW BOARD. I WAS LIKE, WHAT? YEAH, WE DON'T WANT THIS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS -- BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THE SUNSHINE LAW, IT COULD DECIDES IT WANTS TO DO, BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE DID NOT OPERATE IN THE SUNSHINE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE IN THERE THAT ALSO EX-TENDS TO THEM ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES THROUGH THEIR CACS AND OTHER ORGANIZATION SHE IS MAY BE A PART OF. THAT IS THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS, THEY CAN NOT ACT AS CONDUITS. THEY ARE -- IF THEY ARE ALSO ON A MEMBER OF THE CAC AND THIS IS ALSO A SUNSHINE BOARD, THEY HAVE TO ALSO BE VERY CAREFUL AS WELL. OF COURSE, AT THE FIRST MEETING OF THAT COMMITTEE, I WILL BE PRESENT TO GO OVER THE RULES OF THE SUNSHINE -- THE SUNSHINE LAWS WITH THEM. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: PUBLIC RECORDS. YOU ARE INCLUDING THAT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR. >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THESE COMMITTEES. WHEN I WAS ON THE CHARTER REVIEW. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CITY E-MAIL AND WE HAD TO MAINTAIN THOSE RECORDS OURSELVES. THE OTHER THING, IT DOESN'T -- IT MEANS THEY CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER. IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY CAN'T TALK TO US. BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY NOT -- I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT TALK WITH EACH OTHER, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY MEET WITH ALL OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT TWO OF THEM CANNOT MEET WU AT THE SAME TIME. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, EXACTLY. >>BILL CARLSON: LAST THING. AT THAT MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SHORTEN THE PROCESS BY CREATING A CHAIR FOR THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS -- IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER AND SUDDENLY -- THAT CASE THEY DIDN'T PICK A CHAIR AND I THINK THAT WAS MAYBE WORSE THAN NOT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I -- I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE SHOULD PICK THEIR OWN CHAIRS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE DYNAMICS OF THE COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE THAT BUY INTO IT. I CAN'T IMAGINE OPERATING ON A COMMITTEE THAT DOESN'T PICK THEIR OWN CHAIR. OR YOU SAID DIDN'T HAVE A CHAIR AT ALL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FACILITATOR. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS CRAZY. BUT YOU NEED A CHAIR. THAT SHOULD BE THE EXPECTATION OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WE -- DID WE CREATE RULES FOR THEM FROM THE COMMITTEE FOR PICKING A CHAIR? >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY. THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE A CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR. THERE WAS NONE SPECIFIED IN THERE, I DON'T BELIEVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. I HAVE TO DO TWO CLEANUP MOTIONS REALLY FAST. I MOTIONED THIS MORNING ON -- ON OCTOBER 3, 2024, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE REPORTING. I WANT TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE K-BAR RANCH AS WELL FOR THE LIST OF ITEMS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>LUIS VIERA: LAST WEEK I MOTIONED ON THE IRE ITALIAN CLUB PROPERTY. CITY OF TAMPA -- STRIKE THAT, ADJACENT PROPERTY AND I HAD DISCUSSION WITH CARL BRODY, THE ATTORNEY HANDLING THAT AND HAS TO BE THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENTS. I WILL MAKE MOTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL RECUSE MYSELF. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY. NO PROBLEM. A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I HAVE THAT VOTE ANNOUNCED FOR PURPOSES OF THE MINUTES SO WE ARE CLEARING. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON VOTE ABSTAINING AND HURTAK ABSENT AND MIRANDA AT VOTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON. >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOTHING. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTHING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: COUPLE OF CHEAP-UP AND FLOWING THIS MORNING. THESE ARE ONES THAT STAFF REQUESTED FOR CONTINUANCES. I WILL READ IT. ITEMS ON FUTURE AGENDAS THAT THEY WANT TO MO OF TO A LATER DATE SO AS TO NOT CAUSE CONFUSION. I NOTION CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS -- ALSO, I AM GOING TO BE -- -- ANNOUNCED THIS A YEAR AGO, BUT EVERY YEAR I GO TO AN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE FOR MY INDUSTRY, I WILL BE IN BRAZIL NEXT WEEK WHEN YOU GUYS ARE MEETING. SO THE ITEMS I PUT ON THE AGENDA WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE. SO I MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING I'M TERMS FOR MAY 23, 2024 WORKSHOP TO THE -- TO THE JUNE 27, 2024. NUMBER ONE IS DISCUSSION ON HOW AND WHY DESIGN EXCEPTIONS ARE MADE TO PROJECTS AFTER CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED REP ZONINGS. NUMBER TWO IS, STAFF TO REPORT TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE CONTRACT OR PARKING PLANS WITH PUBLIC INPUT FOR MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. NUMBER THREE, ISSED A ORGANIZATION IN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CIP. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT DATE WAS, AGAIN? >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 23 TO JUNE 27 -- SORRY? I WILL DO THAT IN A MINUTE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME, SIR. I AM KIDDING, I AM KIDDING. COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH A MOTION TO CONTINUE. SECOND WITH -- SECOND BY CLENDENIN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND ONE, A AGAIN, A CLEANUP ONE, CLEANUP OF WORKSHOP THE JUNE 27, 2024 WORKSHOP TO THE AUGUST 29 WORKSHOP. NUMBER ONE, LEGAL THE STAFF DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION TREELZ GET THREE BIDS FOR ITEMS THAT EXCEED $5 MILLION. NUMBER TWO, STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOBILITY, MULTIMODAL IMPACT FEE STUDY TO MOVE FORWARD TO INITIATE THE INCREASE IN IMPACT FEES FURTHER THAT STAFF PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON PROGRESS OF THE STUDY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND. MUCH. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED. >>BILL CARLSON: THE ITEM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORNING. A LONG CONVERSATION WITH SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ AND ABBYE FEELEY ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AND THE -- AND IT -- WE CAN HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION, BUT I WILL MAKE IT SHORT. THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE MOTION WAS. AND THERE IS NOT EXACT LEE GREAT CASE STUDIES THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO FIND. THE PROBLEM IS THAT -- THAT THERE ARE AREAS LIKE HOWARD AVENUE THAT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER ASKED FOR IT TO HAVE AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OR A -- OR A BAR DISTRICT. NOTHING CALLED -- NO NORMAL DESIGNATION AS AN ENTERTAINMENT OR BAR DISTRICT. WHAT HAPPENED OVER TIME, PREVIOUS CITY COUNCILS BEFORE ANY OF US WERE ON COUNCIL, APPROVED LIQUOR LICENSE AND PUT HOURS OF OPERATIONS IN THE SITE PLAN. IT HAPPENS THAT THERE WAS A SHOOTING ON SUNDAY NIGHT. BE THIS ISSUE WAS COMING UP ANYWAY, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. ORIGINALLY A RESTAURANT AREA AND NOW THIS CONCENTRATION OF ALCOHOL LICENSES WE CAN'T TAKE THOSE AWAY EVEN THOUGH ABBY AND SUSAN WERE LOOKING AT HOW TO REGULATE -- ESPECIALLY HOWARD AVENUE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS AREAS ON FLORIDA AVENUE AND TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WHERE WE ARE APPROVING LOTS OF LIQUOR LICENSES. IF IT IS ONE BY ONE, WE JUST WAIVE THE -- THE DISTANCE, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LOOK CAN AT IT IN THE CONTEXT. SO WHAT ABOUT WE ARE DOING INDIRECTLY IS CREATING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS. TAKING ALL OF THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE AUGUST 29 WORKSHOP A DISCUSSION OF HOW TO BETTER REGULATE, PREVENT OR CREATE CONCENTRATIONSS ALCOHOL LICENSES WITH COLLABORATIVE INPUT FROM RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS. SO WHEN THEY DONE THIS BEFORE, IT IS ONE BY ONE AND NO -- NO DISCUSSION WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNER WHAT IS THEY WANT. SO A QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD THEY DO THAT. NUMBER TWO, WE MIGHT WANT TO REGULATE WHAT IS ALREADY THERE. WE MIGHT WANT TO PREVENT CERTAIN AREAS, ESPECIALLY CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MIGHT NOT WANT CONCENTRATIONS INDIVIDUALLY. SOME AREAS MIGHT WANT IT AND CREATE CONCENTRATIONS. ALL OF THIS WILL POTENTIALLY TIE INTO THE PROCESS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING THROUGH AND WHAT HAD THE CONSULTANT IS DOING ON THE CODE. SO ANYWAY, THE IDEA IS TO PUT THIS ON THE WORKSHOP FOR AUGUST 29 TO WORK. A SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WITH SOUTH HOWARD, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU DESCRIBE, BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING HERE IN -- AND MAY HAVE SEEN THAT WITH SOME OF THE PLACES PREVIOUSLY BEEN ISSUED LIQUOR LICENSES SUCH AS THE EXPERIENCE ECONOMIC SUCCESS. THEIR BUSINESS HAS GROWN. SO IT HAVEN'T BEEN ANY LIQUOR LICENSE ISSUED IN THAT AREA IN RECENT HISTORY IS WHAT I AM TOLD. CLEARLY I ONLY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR AND THAT IS IT WHAT I AM TOLD. THE OTHER THING IS THAT -- IT HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF A PIZZA PLACE. AND IT WASN'T OUTSIDE OF A WAR OR ANYTHING. AND THAT GETS CONVOLUTED WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING. ARE THERE PROBLEMS POSSIBLY? I THINK NEIGHBOR THAT WORKSHOP WE CAN DOG ABOUT THE SINK OR SWIM TYPE OF ALL YOU CAN DRINK WANT GIVEN AMOUNT OF TIME WHICH CONTRIBUTES BECAUSE TRUST ME, THIS KIND OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I DRIVE THROUGH IT. AND IT IS CHALLENGING TO DRIVE THROUGH IT AT CERTAIN HOURS OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STUMBLING ACROSS THE ROAD. IT IS DEFINITELY INTERESTING. BUT YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOT -- WHEN YOU LOOK -- A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND THERE RE RESTAURANTS. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO CLOSE DOWN BERN'S. THERE IS A LOT -- A LOT OF GREAT RESTAURANTS. JAPANESE STEAKHOUSES AND SOME -- A LOT OF GOURMET THINGS THAT HAVE OPENED UP THERE AND CASUAL PLACES TO EAT AND I AM A FREQUENT USER OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS. NOT SO MUCH THE BARS, BUT THE RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE -- AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE POLICE TODAY THE ISSUES AND THE VIOLENCE WE EXPERIENCED IN THE CITY IS NOT -- YOU CAN'T JUST SAYS IT RELATED TO ONE OTHER THAN THE -- FOR THE GUNS. I MEAN WE HAVE DOWNTOWN -- FLOSS BAR AT MARION AND TYLER, YOU KNOW. IT WAS A RESTAURANT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS. IT WAS -- PEOPLE THORP NOT PARTICIPATING OF THE BARS IN YBOR CITY. A PIZZA PLACE IN SOUTH HOWARD. ALL OVER THE CITY, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL OVER THE WORLD. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A PANDEMIC OF GUN VIOLENCE. SO -- SO I THINK IT IS WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FRAME IT THAT -- HOW WE CREATE ZONING AND STUFFkt CHARLOTTE IS A PLANNING DISCUSSION, RIGHT. I USED A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. A PLANNING DISCUSSION. INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT ONE ALCOHOL LICENSE AT TIME, LOOK AT REGIONS AND AREAS AND DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT STRICTER GUIDELINES OR LESS STRICT GUIDELINES. WE WILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION THEN. HOWARD THING, WE CAN TALK A LOT ABOUT AND THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE, IT IS SOMEWHAT CONNECTED PAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER SAID WE WANT THIS. AND A POINT, IF THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW DO WE AT THE SIDE WHETHER WE WANT MORE CONCENTRATION OR NEXT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOU GOT TO GO BACK AND LOOK ABILITY THE HISTORY, THE MAKE-UP, HOW IT HAPPENED. IT HAPPENED MUCH FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, TEN YEARS STRAIGHT. WHEN YOU START SAYING I AM GOING TO RENT THAT LOT ACROSS THE STREET TO GET MY LIQUOR LICENSE AND THIS WILL BE MY PARKING FOR WHATEVER. WHATEVER THE ENTITY WAS. THAT IS FINE AND DANDY. WHAT IF THEY SELL IT THE NEXT DAY, THE PARKING. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HANG YOUR FEET ON -- YOUR HAT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. EVERYWHERE. YOU CAN NOT -- GUN FIGHT AND KILLINGS WITH GUNS, UNPRED UNPREDICTABLE. HAPPENS INSIDE OF A WORSHIP PLACE. IT IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE. IT IS AT A BANK. IT IS HAPPENING IN A LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD. YOU LONG AT AMERICA, IT IS EVERYWHERE, COVID WITH A GUN. AND UNTIL THEY CHANGE HOPE AND DESIRE AND ALL THIS A NEW NEED TO HAVE WHEN YOU ARE GROWING UP, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN TODAY BECAUSE YOU DID IT TODAY. IT HAPPENED BECAUSE 10, 20 YEARS AGO YOU KEPT GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE IN A GANG AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE GOING TO FIGHT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. IT IS A DIFFICULT EPIDEMIC THAT THERE IS NO CURE FOR UNTIL WE FIND THE REAL REASON. AND THE REAL REASON AND SOME OF IT -- HOW DO YOU GET -- HOW DO YOU GIVE ANYONE A GUN WITHOUT A GUN ESPECIALLY MITT, WHAT AGE, HERE A GUN. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PEOPLE CAN WALK IN THIS CHAMBER WITH A GUN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: POLITICAL SOONER OR LATER AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I AM TROUBLED WITH AS RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA. EPIDEMIC THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN; HOWEVER, YOU -- YOU EITHER ARE ON THE LEFT OR ON THE RIGHT. YOU EITHER A D AND A R, THE PEOPLE IN THE CENTER ARE FORGOTTEN. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE REALIST. AND I THINK IT GOES BACK WHEN THE LEGISLATURE STOPPED COMING HOME AND LIVING IN WASHINGTON. THEY LIVE THERE, BOTH PARTIES LIVED THERE. THEY WENT TO CHURCH TOGETHER. THEY WENT TO FUNCTIONS TOGETHER. THEY WENT TO THE THEATRE TOGETHER. WITHOUT EVEN SHOWING THEY WERE THERE. AND THEY MADE FRIENDS. AND THEY HAD FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER. THERE ARE NO FEELINGS FOR EACH OTHER NOW. THAT IS A PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS NO ONE TO THE LEFT AND NO ONE TO THE RIGHT WANTS TO BE IN THE MIDDLE. AND I ADMIRE SOME LEGISLATORS THAT NO LONG REMEMBER THERE THAT SPEAK OUT. AND SOME THAT HAVE LEFT BECAUSE THEY SAY, WE WON'T WANT THIS ANYMORE. AND THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED DOWN IN CONGRESS. SO THAT IS JUST MY OPINION. I MAY BE 100% WRONG. I MAY BE 100% RIGHT. BUT I DON'T SEE UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT LIFE IS, THAT USED TO THAT BE WE COME HOME FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A YEAR. THAT WAS IT. THEY LIVED THERE. AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE. THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING. START OF SOMETHING IN POLITICS. THE OTHER PART IS THE YOUTH. THEY HAVE SEEN VIOLENCE ALL THEIR LIVES. THEY GO HOME. THEY WATCH TV ON VIOLENCE. GO TO MOVIES ON VIOLENCE. TERMINATOR NEVER DIES. THIS GUY DOESN'T DIE. THIS LADY DOESN'T DIE. NOBODY WILL DIE. JUST GOING TO SHOOT SOMEBODY. I DON'T THINK THEY ARE JUST GOING TO SHOOT SOMEBODY. HAVING A CONFLICT AMONG THEMSELVES AND SOME OTHER INDIVIDUAL THEY DON'T LIKE, AND THAT IS THE RESULT OF IT. IT IS NOT THAT SIMPLE. AND -- AND NOT ONLY WILL YOU SHOOT SOMEBODY, YOU ARE ACTUALLY SHOOTING YOURSELF. BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND A LONG TIME IN JAIL. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMAN CARLSON. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? >>BILL CARLSON: YES. SO THE MOTION IS JUST TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ITEM TO TALK ABOUT CONCENTRATIONS OF ALCOHOL LICENSES AND WHETHER WE SHOULD REGULATE THEM, PREVENT THEM OR PREVENT THEM. >>LUIS VIERA: I SECONDED THIS. I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THIS RELATED TO WHAT HAPPENED A FEW DAYS AGO. THAT IS A PROBLEM. A PROBLEM THAT FOLKS COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT. I THINK IT IS FINE. I -- >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW. I REALLY DO WANT TO SUPPORT YOU, BUT I JUST CAN'T ON THIS ONE. I KIND OF FEEL THAT ZONING -- THERE ARE SO MANY BIG DIFFERENCES -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS RIGHT -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS RIGHT BECAUSE ZONING AND OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE INVOLVED. AND -- AND SPECIFIC AND WHAT IS LEGAL. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE ARE THERE YET. >>BILL CARLSON: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ AND ABBY WILL BE HERE. TAKE FLORIDA AVENUE, FOR EXAMPLE. WE GO ONE BY ONE, AND WE WAIVE THE -- THE SETBACK CRITERIA OR THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT. ONE BY ONE, IT MIGHT LOOK FINE, BUT SUDDENLY 20 BARS ARE RIGHT KNOWS EACH OTHER AND RIGHT NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE IDEA IS, SHOULD WE DO SOMETHING LARGER TO -- TO EITHER STRENGTHEN THAT OR TO ALLOW IT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE THE SAME FRUSTRATION. ISSUE IN YBOR CITY WHERE WE EXTENDED THE OUTDOOR PATTY I DON'T HE TO A ZACK DOESN'T HAVE BARS. I HAD THE SAME KIND OF CONCERN, BUT THIS COUNCIL DIDN'T. I MEAN REGET IT. I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IT IS RIGHT FOR DISCUSSION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU. LET ME SAY THIS. WHEN IT COMES TO ALCOHOL, NOT THE BUILDING YOU SHALL ZONING, IT IS THE LAND. THEY GOT THAT PASSED WITH THE LEGISLATURE MANY YEARS AGO. THAT LAND IS FOREVER ZONED IN THAT DIVISION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEED TO THAT INTO ACCOUNT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING. CHANGE THE LAW THAT WHEN YOU ZONE SOMETHING, IT IS CHANGED FOREVER OPINION THAT LAND IS ZONED FOR THAT AND YOU CAN'T TAKE IT DAY WAY. THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID. THAT IS VERY TRUE. FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO ADDRESS ALCOHOL LICENSES. THE TERM IS NOT EVEN APPEAR POLICE DOABLE WHAT YOU DO. THE STATE CONTROLS ALCOHOLIC LICENSES. YOU CONTROL ZONING THAT IS WHAT POWER AND AUTHORITY THE STATE GIVES YOU. IF YOU RECALL THE RED-BLUE MAP PREPARED. NOT ALWAYS THAT WAY. THAT WAS TO GIVE YOU A BIG PICTURE AND A WAY TO BE ABLE TO JUDGE WHETHER SOMETHING IS COMPATIBLE OR NOT. AND MY GUESS -- IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR MOTION IS, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO LOOK AT THE GREATER PICTURE WHETHER THE OTHER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SPECIAL USE PERMITS WHICH ARE THE PROPER TERM. YOU GRANT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO GRANT THE PROPERTY ARE THE RIGHT TO SERVE ALCOHOL THERE SUBJECTS TO STATE LICENSE LICENSE CHAIR. IF I UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T WANT TO MISCONSTRUE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT IF YOU WERE SAYING RATHER THAN WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS INCREMENTAL DECISION MAKING. YOU WANT TO SEE OVER COURSE OF TIME WHAT IS THE BIG PICTURE. >> ZONING WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. GO AND CHANGE BIG AREAS FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RELS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AREAWIDE REZONINGS AND THAT IS A SIMILAR THING TO DECIDE -- SO WE CAN -- WE CAN PLAN. SNOB DOING PLANNING FOR ALCOHOL LICENSES. ALL HAPHAZARD ALL BY ACTION AND LOOK AT IT AND -- IF ANY DISCUSSION COULD BE SWLORPT WE DECIDE NO TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE. IF THERE ARE NO TOOLS, THE ONLY THING IS TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND LOOK AT IT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THE QUESTION. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I AM HEARING IS WE CAN'T BE TRUSTED WITH THAT DECISION, BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE -- THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE DOING WITH EVERY APPLICATION, TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. I AM JUST NOT THERE YET. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA. MOTION AND SECOND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MIND HAVING DISCUSSION ON THIS, BUT THE LAND IS ZONED FOREVER OPINION EVEN IF THE BUILDING BURNS, THE LAND GOES FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE. >>BILL CARLSON: I AM NOT TALKING OF TAKING IT AWAY. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NAY. >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WERE IN FAVOR? ENCORE LOT 12. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND CLENDENIN VOTE NOTHING AND HURTAK ABSENT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES? YES? >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS THE VOTE, IT FAILED -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION PASSED WITH MANISCALCO AND CLENDENIN VOTE NOTHING. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE TO GO TO MY NEPHEW'S GRADUATION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE? >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE ONE VERY LAST THING. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMEMBER WANTS TO VOTE. I DON'T THINK IT IS NECESSARY. I -- I AM -- -- I AM MAKING THE REQUEST -- EXCUSE ME. I AM ASKING COUNCIL FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION SETTING A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION AT THE REQUEST BY MOTION AND VOTE OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR JUNE 20. TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND -- I WILL MAKE THE MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA. THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY GROUP TO DO A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SUBJECT IS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE FY '25 BUDGET. >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE THEY MEETING WITH OUR BUDGET ANALYST BEFORE THEY MEET WITH US? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NEXT MEETING IS THE SECOND FRIDAY IN JUNE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AHEAD OF OUR 20th MEETING. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD A LOT OF VERY LONG PRESENTATIONS TODAY. AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, PLEASE -- SOMETHING WE NEED TO HEAR, BUT I THINK THAT THE GUTS OF IT COULD BE IN TEN MINUTES. AND SO WE -- WE SAID PREVIOUSLY -- MAYBE WE VOTED TODAY SOME WILL BE FIVE AND SOME WILL BE TEN, BUT WE SHOULD LIMIT ANYTHING BEYOND 10 MINUTES. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS PART OF MY CONCERN -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT TAKEN. OUR AGENDAS ARE SO PACKED AND SO LONG AND PART OF MY FEAR -- WHAT I JUST VOTED AGAINST BECAUSE IT IS LIKE -- NOW WE ARE JUST TALKING OF SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A RESOLUTION AND TRYING TO CLEAN THESE THINGS OUT. MARTY AND I HAD A SIDEBAR ABOUT THIS. WHEN WE INVITE FOLKS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM IS TOLD IN ADVANCE WHAT THEIR TIME LIMITS ARE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COURTESY TO THEM, TO US AND THE PUBLIC. YES, SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME AGAIN. BUT 30 YEARS -- I GOT AN AWARD FOR 30 ZERO. THE PUBLIC GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. AND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CORRECT, BUT CAN NOT BE APPLICABLE TO TODAY'S SOCIETY. WHEN I STARTED IN 1974-'79. WE NEVER LEFT AFTERNOON. WE NEVER HAD AN AFTERNOON MEETING. YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE NOTHING GOING ON IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. YBOR CITY WAS DEAD. DOWNTOWN WAS DEAD. NOTHING THERE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. NOTHING. NOTHING DO OTHER ON THAT COUNT OUT MANY PEOPLE LIVING DOWNTOWN. THRE WERE 600 AND THEY WERE IN JAIL. THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE. WE HAVE BECOME SOMETHING ELSE. AND NOW OUR AGENDA ARE DIFFERENT, VERY DIFFERENT. BUT THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD MAAS BROTHER AND WOOLWORTH. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ARE GONE. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE HAVE CVS CLENDENIN CLENDENIN I DON'T WANT WHAT HE HAS TO SAY LOST IN THE DISCUSSION. BUT THEY HAVE TO BE TOLD IN ADVANCE WHAT THE TIME LIMIT IS TO CRAFT THEIR MESSAGE FOR THAT TIME LIMIT. AND I THINK IT IS A FAIR THING TO DO. I THINK THAT IT -- REALLY -- FAIR TO US TOO. BECAUSE I AM TELLING YOU, THE WAY WE ARE GOING FOR A SECOND MEETING -- WE NEED TO START ADDING MEETINGS IF THESE MEETINGS -- >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. LAST WEEK AT THE RRA, THE TAMPA THEATRE GOT. AND A SECOND ITEM AND PRESENTED FOR 20 MINUTES, AND IT WAS GREAT INFORMATION, BUT -- BUT, BUT I SHOULD HAVE TOLD THEM IN ADVANCE YOU HAVE TO -- I KNOW TO DO THIS. I JUST DIDN'T DO IT. YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE TOPIC AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THAT'S IT. >> EVERYBODY SENDS US THESE PRESENTATIONS IN ADVANCE. I DO. I READ THEM ALL. SO I -- >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE BEEN PART OF THESE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE I HAVE BEEN ON COLONEL AND PEOPLE PRACTICE FOR HOURS AND DAYS GETTING READY FOR THEM IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. FOR US WE GOT -- AND WE JUST GIVE THEM A FIVE-MINUTE LIMIT OR TEN-MINUTE LIMIT. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR AGENDAS ARE SO PACKED. IF WE CAN'T CALL THIS, I AM TELLING YOU, WE WILL HAVE TO A SECOND MEETING. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION. >>MARTIN SHELBY: PER YOUR NEW RULES WILL THAT TAKE EFFECT NEXT MONTH. LIMIT SO SEVEN ITEMS. MIND YOU SEVEN ITEMS AT AN HOUR EACH IS SEVEN HOURS. DO YOU RAISE A POINT, BUT THE THING IS -- THE OTHER THING IS, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN YOU TELL THEM HOW MUCH TIME, BUT THE STAFF WANTS TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, THEY CAN ALSO INFORM YOU WHAT TIME THEY NEED AND WHAT THEY THINK THEY NEED AND ADJUST YOUR AGENDA ACCORDINGLY. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR TELL THEM KNOW. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TELL THEM KNOW. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTION RECEIVE AND FILE HENDERSON HAENZ QUICK POINT OF THAT. AT THE DISCRETION OF THE JAIL CHAIR. THE ZOO PRESENT ONE LITTLE ITEM ABOUT THE ZOO AND THE WHOLE BIG PRESENTATION. AND I HAD SAID YOU HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES. IT WAS THE ZOO. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW THE TAMPA THEATRE DID DO THAT. >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, IT WAS -- THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT BASS MY FAULT. I APOLOGIZE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY DID ADD A ANOTHER LITTLE PIECE TO THE PRESENTATION AND THE CHAIR -- YOU KNOW -- >>BILL CARLSON: MY ITEM AND I NEED TO BE ON TOP OF IT. WE NEED DO IT FOR ALL ITEMS. >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MARTY WILL HAVE TO REMIND US AGAIN. CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON WILL REMIND US AGAIN. >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVEN IN THE MOMENT. SOMETIMES THINGS GET LENGTHY AND YOU SAID LET'S GO. LET'S GO. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND, Y'ALL. COME BACK NEXT WEEK. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ADJOURNED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK GOD I MADE THE MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW.