[Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] as part of the American City's climate challenge we partnered with OUC and the science center to bring the Orlando tiny Greenhouse today visitors have an opportunity to engage in a lot of cool interactive features that will be guiding them on how to save money and reduce their environmental impact even though this technology has evolved not everybody can 40b or solar right now so there's a lot of other great highlights of low cost and no cost opportunities to save residents money that you'll learn about when you visit the home and the greenhouse is on Wheels so we're going to be able to take it around the community and have people enjoy it and learn from it in various different areas of our community foreign [Music] trailing thoughts from bumpy path this is such a friendly neighborhood because people have been aggressively waving at me a lot today what is that sound I keep hearing behind me oh I'm dragging a child's kite how long have I been dragging that for and why didn't any of these nice people tell me [Music] [Music] foreign [Laughter] [Music] you see a lot of violence outside and you get used to it after a while for the past four weeks we have been teaching the kids about telling their own story you know they listen to music all the time and they don't recognize that a lot of these artists and stuff like that are they're really just telling their own story through lyrical pieces our goal each and every day is to get every single young king to tap into his ability and his his voice to constantly allow them to you know feel more comfortable even in those spaces that might not be as safe but to be brave and to speak up for those things that they know they need to vocalize so I really want them to find their internal value find things that they're passionate about through this program and that's what MBK is all about is we come together and we're trying to just help coach them along through their processes to make sure that Partnerships like this and others that they'll be safe enough to be able to say oh I can do something that I've never done before [Applause] [Music] what do you know about dog walker watch I think it's a great program where dog walkers like me who are out and about in their neighborhood every day they're the eyes and ears of the neighborhood providing extra set of eyes to the police if you see something say something it absolutely makes a difference because it will weed out the crime because they know that we're saying hello and greeting and we've made eye contact and that I see you uh it's easy you know you're gonna walk your dog anyway you're going to say hello to your neighbors anyway you're going to be walking through on a daily basis so it's just important to contribute back to your community [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] thank you again [Applause] [Music] all right [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] well how I got involved um Randolph from Inglewood Neighborhood Center which is the naval Center that I grew up in I just love the idea because growing up at the shop that I grew up in they gave me an opportunity so why not give back I always love art like in any type of form if it's drawing tattoo graffiti haircuts anything so once I turned 16 I got involved with the program uh since then I've been working here at the barbershop and learning new things he comes in he helps out with a lot of just you know the basics from sweeping hair to standing behind somebody's chair asking questions and I think him seeing my actions and the way I move and how everything functions I think he picks up on a lot of that as well but the thing that I learned so far is the more customers you can gain in the barber industry by by it's not just by cutting hair and like cutting good that's not what barbering is all about it's also having a connection with your clients and understanding them and they were just teaching us how to manage our money save it and just use it properly in the proper way from business owner to business owner if we can't help and the more people get involved the better the chances are that these young men growing up and young women growing up you know they can change their life I want to be above them and I also want to have my own business and Department Industry as well foreign [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] good afternoon and welcome to the January 23rd 2023 meeting of the Orlando city council we're going to begin today's proceedings with the Pledge of Allegiance and the invocation LED today by commissioner Bacardi Burns all right thank you mayor invocation first yeah invocation first y'all can be seated I got that out I got that out of order maybe bottle heads God of Justice and mercy thank you for the gift of life and for the opportunity to serve the people of our great City help us to act with character and conviction help us to listen with understanding and good will help us to speak with Clarity and restraint give us a spirit of service and remind us that we are stewards of your Authority guide us to be the leaders you need for your people help us to see the humanity and dignity for those who disagree with us and to treat all persons with the reverence your creation deserves father direct us so that this meeting can be productive let us be effective and decisive these another things we ask in your name amen amen foreign okay let's call the meeting to order a Madam clerk would you uh call the role and make the termination of corn commissioner gray here commissioner Ortiz here commissioner Stewart here commissioner Sheehan here commissioner Hill here commissioner Burns here mayor Dyer here mayor you have a quorum with all members present consideration of minutes from the agenda review City Council meetings of January 9th motion bye Mr Sheehan second by commissioner Hill all in favor indicate so by saying aye aye those posts are the motion carries commissioner Hill your request to speak is on is that by accident oh yes sir okay thanks Let's see we have no Awards presentations or recognitions today so we'll go right into the mayor's update and to begin with we want to send our love and thoughts to Monterey California what should have been a weekend celebration around the Lunar New Year for the Asian American community in turn turn to shock and grief and this uh is another horrific tragedy that's become multi-familiar in our country Commissioners please join me if we take a moment of silence Stoner and remember the 10 victims thank you okay Friday Also marks the international Holocaust Remembrance Day and it's important for us to remember the millions that were killed during this horrific time and also use history and lessons of the Holocaust to build a world free of prejudice and hatred sadly there's been an increase in displays of anti-Semitism nationally and including right here in our city and I didn't want to state that anti-systematic in all forms of hate and hate speech are not welcome in our community and we will always condemn them just last week a number of businesses on South Street which are beloved members of the lgbtq plus Community were vandalized commissioner Sheehan I'm sure you'll probably address that a little bit more in your marks but I want to state that this also is not going to be tolerated in our city it's our we want to resolve to be a more inclusive welcoming City I have one item I want to mention on the agenda it's item B2 it's an item that will help the Coalition for the homeless move forward with plans to modernize their Women and Children's Campus with a new building and also um and afford to um provide better daytime services for our homeless women and homeless families and at Future meeting we'll also consider providing funding to accelerate Orlando program my last thing that I would like to note is that commissioner Burns will be one year older on Monday and we want to commemorate his birthday a couple days well a week early because we won't be meeting next Monday so in traditional faction how about a little old Happy Birthday song So Professor Ortiz lead us out happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday Mr Burns happy birthday to you thank you very much all right that will move to the consent agenda which is a number of items that are acted upon through a single vote of council we give each of our council members an opportunity to comment on the consent agenda and also update your important happenings from their District we rotate the order that we do that in and today first up is commissioner Burns all right thank you mayor um just a couple of things uh it was again a pleasure to participate in the Dr King parade and thank you to the Orlando Jaycees for putting on another successful parade it's a little chilly but uh people came out in and we I really enjoyed myself that was my second uh Dr King parade also I had the opportunity to attend the 32nd annual Pappy Kennedy prayer breakfast um on Martin Luther King Day the keynote speaker was Dr Barbara Jenkins and she made some powerful uh remarks and again we recognize and celebrate the life of Pappy Kennedy the first African-American elected to the city of Orlando commission afterwards I was honored to participate in the National Day of Service for the third year and I joined uh keep Orlando beautiful Greenup Orlando with uh Jody Baez and the city's parking Recreation Department for the seedlings for civil rights event this year we planted over 70 trees in the lake man uh Community District Six and actually Gilbert McQueen Park there's a kind of split between District Six and District Five but we had over 150 volunteers it came out again and planted over 70 trees so thank you to those volunteers also over the weekend as part of my get fit district 6 initiative I hosted that uh inaugural Bike District Six event in partnership with the city's transportation department I want to thank Courtney Dinkins and the City of Orlando transportation department bird lime and hellbiz for providing e-bikes it's different biking you know with e-bikes versus a regular bike I think I get a few more miles on the on the e-bike but thank you for for providing those bikes also Lucy uh Steve Purcell and Jay DeRosa from Orlando bike Coalition thank you for your participation and Patrick Panza with bitewalk Central Florida it was a great event there was over 50 Riders I personally wrote about 16 miles again on the e-bike but about 20 attendees did that that 16 miles but everyone we went from Disneyland to Eagle's Nest Park but everyone did at least seven miles on the shingle tree uh Shingle Creek Trail because we oftentimes hear about the West Orange Trail it's a great Trail but we do have some great Trails right here in the city of Orlando so part of that was to get people out but also we wanted them to experience these great bike trails that go through the city of Orlando also starting this Wednesday January 25th we'll start our satellite office hours at the Smith Center and then lastly I would like to welcome Mr Leo Stoney who is my new executive aide uh he comes to us as always been part of the district 6 family comes uh from Parks and Recreation so we're excited to have Mr Stoney to join our district 16. and that's it mayor thank you thank you commissioner woman to commissioner gray thank you mayor we've got a big agenda so I will be very brief and refer everybody to my website for actions both past and in future in district one I will mention quickly though we had a really exciting weekend in Lake Nona for those of you who are golfers you may have seen it on TV but we had the ladies professional tour along with the Celebrity Golf Tour and I think I might have trumped everybody here I got to personally meet Larry the Cable Guy so I've got that and uh but but he's a fabulous gentleman but anyway he was out playing golf the point of all that is like a lot of things we do with our bowl games around the holidays Our Praise Etc it gives us an opportunity to showcase Central Florida on the national level and so I tip my hat to the LPGA to Tavistock and to the organizers the celebrity Diamond International because they put on a good show and it's on national TV and folks who are sitting at snowbound in Buffalo get a chance to see what it's like in Central Florida a good Economic Development opportunity for us and I'll save the rest of my comments for the for the new business agenda mayor thank you commissioner Ortiz thank you mayor thank you commissioner gray for giving me giving me your time on Tuesday January 17th I attended Dover Manor Home Association meeting I was joined by Minister Jenna Butler who discussed the importance of opd's Neighborhood Watch program ideation officer who informed the residents of the latest crime Trends in the area um great group of people re-engaging this year on Thursday January 19th I attended the Tri-County League Of Studies General membership meeting Florida FLC press in Florida League of cities pressing Jolene Caraballo join us to install the office for the new year congratulations to those who were newly installed on the executive board and board of directors especially to our new president mayor of Saint Cloud Nathan Blackwell on Friday January 20th 20th I attended Cafe with members of the Hispanic chamber of commerce hosted of course by um Chamber of Commerce I had a conversation with OST Chief or chief was our chief um Chief Salazar myopa deviation officer Keith Hernandez a neighborhood Patrol unit officer wilberto Rodriguez in a way to make the business Community aware of the working methodology of these departments and in order for also to get them involved with our safety ways of helping the community so that was very proactive and I appreciate the community the business Community for engaging sat on Saturday Saturday January 21st I attended a Martin Luther King Jr Day Parade I appreciate the hard work and dedication of the mayor's Dr Martin Luther King Jr commission for keeping the spirit of Martin Luther King Jr alive in our city MLK was one of the greatest civil rights rights activists of our time and deserve to be remembered for this commit for his commitment to peace Justice and equality now more than ever we need to continue to work on his dream and not allow us to be separated by misdirected ideologies uh March 7th we're going to start our ninth year of um the government Academy so I invite for those of you this one is in English uh we're going to do this at the training center of the Orlando Police Department is on Andes and is a great Academy you get to learn a lot about the federal government state government School Board anything that has to do with government the only segment we don't do that much is the city of Orlando because the mayor has his Academy and you can learn a lot in that Academy so we combine forces so you are cordially invited it's totally free for 12 weeks and you graduate and you get a nice diploma you get to know the people coming over other people and know what's going on there's a particular subject I left for last I want to talk about it's not exactly good news we like to share good news in the city but this particular one is now back it's not that good is um motorcyclists this um traffic criminals out there riding motorcycles doing wheelies and covering corners and they riding packs and they're disturbing the peace and Tranquility of our citizens enough is enough we need to help we need to help each other stopping this I just had a couple of instances so we can on my district we had also a uh shooting somebody was chasing somebody else they ended up at the uh in front of a Texas Roadhouse the guy came out with a mask went off to the other shot three times grab a bag and lift we had enough of that we cannot allow this this is the city of Orlando it was the epicenter for great things we can stop this but this is my job it's not just the job of the police we need you guys we need if you see one of these guys out there if you see something wrong please call the police immediately if you see this motorcyclist right in the way they write cutting through traffic uh doing their their uh totally criminal Acts where they can expose people to to accidents you need to get involved you need to call the police chief I don't know if I'm we have any kind of task force I ask a couple of months ago I asked metro plan Orlando if we had anything going on to deter this kind of behavior I was told that there was some sort of task force but I haven't heard anything I don't know what kind of measures we can take because of course we don't want to hurt anybody but these people are hurting other peoples and we need to stop this this is the city of Orlando this is not any other place I don't want to get into particulars these are city of Orlando this is our house this is our home we need to protect ourselves we need to get involved so this is a call for each and every one of you to get involved because enough is enough I don't know where these kids are getting these ideas I don't know what's going on why they want to be so rebellious against law enforcement against all of us but we need to stop it because if there's no peace in Tranquility there's no good Economic Development nobody wants to move to a city where there's all you know kind of crazy things happening so we need to stop it we need to stop it now so it's a call for Action thank you so much commissioner Stewart thank you mayor uh let me uh also say congratulations to those involved in the MLK events it was a chilly day and um I've got more comments on my Facebook about not having a jacket on than anything else I don't understand so I learned how to layer a long time ago it was a lot of fun we had a good time um let me also mention that this Saturday is the memorial service for Joe kittinger Joe is uh it was a wonderful representative not only of his own faith our country and but our community so um that's going to be I think a First Baptist Church 11 o'clock this Saturday if you'd like to attend please plan on coming couple things I want to congratulate the packing District farmers market a great job Saturday I had a chance to go out and visit with some of the vendors out there and it was good to visit with them see how they're doing um looking forward to having that packing District up and up and running I say also thank you to the Baldwin Park for hosting their Community Market Day on Saturday and also thanks to Kyle Reynolds I don't think Kyle's here or not seemed like he's probably working today because today is the Florida Main Street leadership Workshop I appreciate him appreciate that coming here and the work he's done for that look forward to seeing them this evening uh upcoming news uh annual the Audubon Park annual meeting this is Thursday night uh get a chance to come over there uh Orlando Science Center has started a new exhibit called Earth matters uh it goes from January 22nd through April 30th please come over and get a chance to look at some of the stuff going on over there just prior to their big opening in the fall uh reopenings in the fall let me also share that we're looking for lifeguards uh some of you in on any of the Facebook pages you'll see that we're looking for lifeguards all over the city um it is important for us to maximize uh our training bring in lifeguards so we can keep our facilities open so you know somebody who's interested please contact one of us up on the Diaz contactor our Parks and Recreation we'll get you in touch with somebody we offer training we offer we offer all the things that you need to be to be a great employee with the city of Orlando um January 28th is also the Ivanhoe Village quarterly cleanup movie night at Lou Gardens is coming up and of course the Baldwin Park First Fridays is starting in the first um in February on the agenda mayor I'm good it's good to see the move with coach for the homeless excited about that and look forward to some great things going on over there so that's all I have thank you commissioner commissioner Sheehan thank you mayor I will be abstaining from voting on item C7 on the consent agenda which is approval of an annexation petition for 2414 South Brown Avenue I've let the clerk know and I have filed the appropriate form um mayor as you mentioned Southern craft at the corner of bumby and South Street was the victim of um of evangelism the windows were shot out anyone who has any information you can check my Facebook for the contact information please contact the Orlando Police Department unfortunately we'd get Granny footage of the suspect but it's time to stop the rhetoric stop the hatred words matter you know people in our line of work have found it um engaging to use words against marginalized communities and it's had an impact so I'm saying you know if you if you're angry get counseling not a gun and it's about time we stop this because it's getting out of control it's absurd and my community has been impacted badly enough you know when when uh by gun violence and we do not need this kind of nonsense happening in our city I also want to wish my friends in the Asian Community a happy Lunar New Year which was marred Again by gun violence at a social club in Monterey Park California my heart is with my friends in this difficult time that should be a time of Celebration gun violence must stop the United States is the only country where civilian guns outnumber people 120 guns for every 100 Americans it's time to stop arming angry people with weapons of war we've got to do something differently it's it happens every single weekend and I think we had more mass shootings than we've had days in this year this year um on the agenda today I just want to thank Betty Lee Sansone for her years of volunteering with fiesta in the park she's not well we wish her well and she'll be in in my thoughts and prayers but she's just a wonderful volunteer and brought so much joy and art to the city and I want to wish her the best that's all I had mayor thank you thank you commissioner commissioner Hill thank you Mary diary good afternoon everyone I also want to thank Walter Hawkins who Friday there was his last day here at City Hall for a minute hopefully he'll be returning real soon he served over 30 years here as our Urban director there in Paramore and has been just a great leader with the transformational leadership of Mayor Dyer and his council with the revitalization there in the paramour area so thank you Walter for all of your support through the years he'll be joining me and mayor Dyer on February the 3rd there at luminary green at 5 45 all is welcome as we honor those luminaries of past there that would Trailblazers in the community and it's 12 luminaries that we'll be honoring with they with uh I would say monuments that light up so please join us it's something that I think we will all be proud of there in the creative Village Paramore corinder I also joined mayor Dyer um there at the Southwest Jaycees YMCA parade along with commissioner Ortiz and commissioner Stewart it was freezing being a Florida girl I prefer warm weather as the grin I was just thinking uh they honored me as the Grand Marshal and Meredith's a little girl growing up in Paramore and coming downtown to parades it in the middle got really surreal for me personally because I had over a hundred youth from the southwest part of the city with me that were Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts and some children they grew up similar to me in low-income single households and for us to be there not looking on the sides as we saw dignitaries and everyone passed by and wishing that could I be part of the parade they were part of it so just like to thank this Council for all the support that you've given me throughout the years because I know I many of the awards and Honors that I get would not be because of great leadership of Mayor Dyer and the support of this Council there in District Five so I'd like to honor you all for that along with the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity Incorporated um give me the John Major associate Justice award at their yearly luncheon um a joint Mary dyer for a vigil a couple weeks ago as we marched here from City Hall with this MLK Commission and to Shiloh Baptist Church and mayor Dyer said something as far as yes I'm not a drum major but when he said that I took a moment and I thought about it as I sat and looked at meridara think when it comes to social justice and equity in a quality and the vision of the last 20 years that mayor Dyer had for this city I said outside of Martin Luther King he is our drum major of the city and I've been meaning to tell you that Mayor Don yes you are a drum major you have led the city when it comes to civil rights and equity and all the great things that we see in inclusion so just thank you for that and I want to say that publicly I didn't get the opportunity to say to you that night when you said that commissioner um uh I am supporting uh B12 which is the purchase of the land for the Coalition I mean when we start talking about our most vulnerable citizens they that are experiencing homelessness is our women and our children and we should be to Protectors of women and children when we start looking at the social services especially when it comes to our shelters the bulk of the beds are are for men and this has been a a gap that we have not been able really to address or feel so to be able to create uh more housing and shelter for our youth and for the parents and for our senior women that now living on the streets of Orlando children that are sleeping in the back of their parents cars and have to go into McDonald's and and Walmarts just to wash up so that they can go to school the next day we can't get this done fast enough and I am in full support of this and a few more women and women's shelters that we need you know I think Chief when we start talking about youth crime and we see in our youth now starting at 10 years old that are having guns and just having all kind of mental health and anger issues I think this is a prevention mechanism because we're giving kids and families especially women that as their children just the basic things of hierarchy the man's law I think hierarchy and that's food and shelter and we as a country must shelter and feed our women and our children so I thank you all for the support on this there for the women and children here in the city of Orlando and Malta and Children and Families that's just migrating here and can't afford the rent because rent is unaffordable now uh housing is unaffordable not just in this city but throughout the nation I also on B6 a home that the city um owns now that will be giving it over to the Community Asset uh preservation Corporation to restore this burned out burn down home to make it affordable for a family to live in also our parks and recs Thank you Lisa early for your leadership and your team for working the last few years on this 21st century grant that will put more youth programs especially when it comes to mental health and crime prevention and for our youth there in District 2 and District Five which we know have a great need I am in Support also of our housing number three which is helping to offset some of the calls there at Jernigan Gardens many of you all might know Jonathan Gardens as the Palms Apartments which was a drug-infested crime infested Grand down deplorable uh HUD complex that the city had multiple issues with throughout a few decades under the leadership of our past congresswoman Val demons and Senator Rubio they were able to get almost 27 million dollars to start to First transfer ownership from the slum landlord that owned that uh that complex and then give 27 million dollars to the new owners and they have it started a extensive renovation when I first came into office and working with Senator Rubio and uh at that time trying to get monies and then with congresswoman Val demons the families could not even sit down and take a bath they had to stand up with socks in the bathtub just to wash off and the list went on and on and many of the murders on the west side of Orlando that we saw was happening in that complex and gang activity but because of that investment and mayor dying this council's leadership in the last five years by going to create affordable housing in that Corridor with ability housing with blue sky developers expanding the kids on there into the Mercy Drive Corridor with OPD going into that corner and creating a special safety of policing Bridging the Gap community policing program now we have seen transformational change where crime is down where there's better partnership and communication with law enforcement where everyone is now thriving we still have work to do so to see this funding helping the developers there but I would say the partners there uh of the new Journey can Gardens uh assist the city with transforming that complex and giving those very deserving families equality and Safe Community I'm just happy that we're able to use some of our funding uh from the 58 million dollars towards affordable housing towards this very needed asset in that community and with that uh mayor I would a vote to move the agenda forward motion by commissioner Hill second by commissioner Sheehan all in favor indicate so by saying aye aye as opposed so the motion carries okay let's move over Let's uh without objection recess city council meeting and convene the CRA David first up good afternoon mayor commissioners so the first item on CRA is an amendment to our safe program this program you may recall from last January where you approved an incentive program that funded uh several things uh both for our significant components for our nighttime establishments as well as some of our other professional buildings it funds metal detection systems ID scanners as well as camera enhancements that they can make the program as it was initially proposed and approves funds up to ten thousand dollars of funding at a 50 match by the CRA uh to date we have not had anyone be successful in either applying or moving forward with that program so the this what is before you is an amendment uh which would do two things the first of which is change the matching percentage from 50 percent to eighty percent so the CRA would be able to fund eighty percent of those approved items that were just listed but in addition to that there is a short term of extended funding being proposed which would double the amount of funds from the CRA from ten thousand dollars to twenty thousand dollars for the appropriate improvements that businesses can make so happy to address any questions move to approve second motion by commissioner Hill second back to Mr Sheen commissioner Ortiz I just want to make sure we clarify the fact that this has to do also as long as those who use this particular Grant they will connect with the police department they would allow for the police department to have access to to have access to their cameras right a requirement of the funding commissioner is for them to participate in Orlando connect at the first tier level correct so they have to allow for connection with the Orlando Police Department correct yes okay thank you further discussion hearing the unfair the motion indicates of us saying aye aye as opposed to motion curies number two thank you very yes this is a budget amendment actually to our last fiscal year budget just having the CRA acknowledge Revenue that it received twenty five thousand dollars from the city uh to ultimately be used for the Orange County Arts and Cultural plan and then another approximately 150 000 that was uh received for the sale of the property underneath Paramore Oaks phase two move whatever second question mark commissioner Hill second body Mr Sheehan discussion hearing on all in favor of the motion indicates so by saying aye aye as opposed and so the motion carries any further businesses come before the CRA David that is all mayor and we'll stand adjourned as the CRA we will reconvene the city council meeting we'll move to hearings um number one and that is disposition of approximately 5.37 Acres of real property located at 756 Bennett Road to mcrt Investments LLC so this is a public hearing for the sale of City owned land valued in excess of 500 000 as required by chapter 13 section 7 the city Charter notice that the hearing was published in the Orlando Sentinel on January 15 2023 an approval of this transactional required majority vote of all members of the city council property is approximately 5.37 Acres located at 756 Bennett Road Orlando 32 803 the purchase price is eight million dollars toward which far exceeds the appraised value of the property Chris McLean and Lori Potts are here to answer any questions that we may have let me call for public comment if there is any medical clerk no speakers mayor okay questions discussion motion mayor I have one okay commissioner gray well maybe I should wait for the motion to be uh listen back to Mr Stewart second second by commissioner Burns yeah here here's my issue on this one and I've discussed this with both Lori and Chris um we've got an offer to sell this for about 8 million and that may be the right offer I don't know but the part that's struck I'm struggling with is we didn't do a marketing process um very little commercial real estate is sold especially in today's market without a marketing process we do it if we're going to sell our house we engage a broker we go out and find the best best value so this may be the right offer but I couldn't get a good answer of why we're not doing a marketing to make sure we're getting the best offer and the best terms when you look at the the math on this and I don't want to bore everybody with the math but the reality is this buyer has the property next door under contract and I don't know the price but if you look at the property appraisers website the market value of that property next door is seven and a half million dollars if you add seven and a half in the eight million that they're going to pay us you're just shy of 16 million and by our own admission they've told us they're going to build um what are they going to build they're going to build 750 apartment units that's good but when you do that math that comes up to about 22 000 a door which is kind of the standard metric in apartments 20 000 per unit which is grossly under value for anything in Orlando especially right outside the gates of Baldwin Park so again there may be some other terms involved here which I'm not aware of but I don't think we sell an 8 million dollar asset without at least doing a third-party arms length marketing process and if this is the best offer today it's going to be the best offer 60 days from now and if it's not at least we've got some other things to consider so um with that I would like to suggest we we table this and do a marketing campaign and and determine what the market really is indubair job of explaining the details that I can but it has everything to do commissioner with them owning the guilt night or buying and eradicating the guilt nightclub property and it's about either praise the appraisal for it totally agree if the nightclub's a problem we should shut them down we don't have to pay a premium to shut them down if they're not following rules shut them down but go ahead commissure thank you very much and uh mayor and other Commissioners uh in general we go out and Market our properties we feel like there is a reason to but in this instance probably for the last uh eight years I've had developers come in and want to buy the piece of property that the city owns that that is up for discussion today the problem in selling our property without another developer buying the guilt nightclub site is quite frankly we lease our property off for parking for uh for the guilt nightclub we have a parking Arrangement there are many reasons why we did this one of the one one of which was when they're parking overflows and it does very quickly they don't have a lot of parking on the guilt nightclub site win that site overflows we have a crowd of people who have been at a nightclub and drinking and different things spilling out into neighborhoods nearby and before we entered into an agreement for that parking we had a lot of complaints from all the neighbors so we entered into that that parking agreement requires that they keep security so it controls you know any issues they have so they basically don't have enough parking now if the city had decided to sell its piece years ago as a separate parcel we would again be having that problem we really felt I felt that these two Parcels coming together to create uh 750 high quality units was an advantageous assemblage of of property in other words a city desperately needs more housing in our community and by selling RPS with this other we get several advantages one is the two sites combined again create a nice high quality development but also the site to the South where the guilt nightclub is today that Mill Creek is buying when they assemble that that particular piece of property not the piece that we own that particular property has access to Colonial Drive so instead of selling our piece to a separate developer who would not have access to Colonial Drive and all the traffic dumping out onto Bennett there is an advantageous situation by combining them in addition Mill Creek also plans to put both pieces together and to build a connection to the Katie way Trail which benefits any Resident I think commissioner you mentioned earlier about Trails any um any of our developers anybody who's riding that trail will not have access to get down and through Colonial Drive so we think it's a good assemblage we think it's a fair price commissioner but combined together we felt like this made a better development that we would get when solely selling our property alone right and and you were kind enough to explain that to me and the reality is if you look at the municipal planning board minutes the other site that's under contract they've already asked for a 10 parking reduction because the site is so skinny so they need this site to make their project really work and I think we agree with that and so I would say hey if if it doesn't work for them or they're not willing to pay the the highest price why don't we buy their contract well I'm fine paying a little premium just let them decide their contract and whoever buys it can have both and we can still have access to Colonial so again I'm not saying this isn't the best price but everything we do from is something as simple as our home insurance to our cell phones we go out we take a bid and we find out what's the best price and the best terms and we did that with Southport in my district we had excess property we did a process we found the best buyer and we selected them but we know the market told us what the value was we didn't guess and so if it's a good price today they ought to be willing to do the same price and it won't take us that long we can Market this and be done with it in 60 days and commissioner as you know we you and I had a discussion we did have the property appraised we feel like we're getting a fair price but again together assembled together those two pieces we feel creates a better parcel for the city and for the residents I get it but if some if the property appraised for 4 million and they want to pay us eight when somebody wants to come and pay you double that kind of raises a red flag for me again not saying it's not legit but I think a marketing process will eliminate at least my doubt so I'll I'll leave it at that time commissioner are we getting too much or too little I'm sorry yeah are we getting too much or too little now no I don't know nobody knows that's the challenge Nobody Knows the market hasn't told us what it's worth I was just going to say here it is today uh we're getting ready to discuss a major issue that I know you have really helped uh would voicing your opinions on in the downtown Corner regarding nightclubs crime and Mayhem and here it is a developer that's trying to alleviate that on the east side where murders have taken place on that property a lot of violence and Drug activities shooting we want to work with that individual or that developer in order to help alleviate the very issues that we're trying to remedy here downtown that's happening there on that property I do I totally agree no I totally agree but if somebody is not following our rules and they're allowing stuff like that to happen why would we pay a premium or have somebody pay a premium to alleviate our problems we've got rules and ranks We're going to talk about it later uh I don't think we pay a premium to get out of a bad operator we need to deal with the bad operator how about save lives but okay further discussion they're not all favorite motion indicate so by saying aye aye I suppose I passed six one okay let's get into ordinances um hearings ordinances second read number one medical clerk coordinates number 2027-72 an ordinance of the city council the city of Orlando Florida annexing to the corporate limits of the city certain land generally located east of Narcoossee Road South of Victory Place and west of Lake Whippoorwill and comprised of 16.8 acres of land more or less amending the city's adopted growth management plan to designate the property as Urban Village in part and conservation in part on the city's official future land use map and to establish a sub-area policy to provide development standards providing for consent to the municipal Services taxing unit for Lake Whippoorwill providing for Amendment of the city's growth management plan providing for severability correction Distributors error and an effective date move to adopt motion by commissioner gray second by commissioner Ortiz Madam clerk no testimony no test system discussion hearing none all in favor indicate so by saying aye aye those opposed motion carries number two fence number 2022-7 -3 an ordinance of the city council the city of Florida amending to the Pioneers project plan development zoning ordinance generally located south of State Road 417 North of Tyson Road and East of Narcoossee Road and comprised of 54.16 acres of land to add approximately 16.8 acres of land and to amend the special Land Development regulations of the plan development providing for Amendment of the city's official zoning Maps providing a disclaimer providing per separability Corrections Governor's error and an effective date move to adopt motion by commissioner cray second by commissioner Ortiz medical testimony no testimony mayor discussion here none all in favor of the motion in case so by saying aye aye dispose motion carries number three ordinance number 2022-77 an ordinance of the city of Orlando granting RGH waste and Disposal LLC a non-exclusive franchise to provide roll-off container collection and disposal of solid waste within the city of Orlando outlining franchisees duties and providing the terms and conditions under which such franchise shall operate providing preservability in an effective date motion by commission Ortiz second by commissioner Shin is this one we have all the testimony on okay all in favor of motion indicates so by saying aye all right an expedite please uh number four that's number 2023-2 an ordinance of the city of Orlando granting Weaver and Sons enterprise LLC DBA Central Florida dumpsters a non-exclusive franchise to provide roll-off container collection and disposal of solid waste within the city of Orlando outlining franchisees duties and provide providing the terms and conditions under which such franchise shall operate providing for severability in an effective date motion my commission Ortiz second by Mr Hill nobody tested no testimony discussion hearing them all favorite motion indicates about saying aye aye those opposed motion carries okay ordinances on first reading uh commission members as we mentioned during agenda review we have two ordinances that both relate to after hours in downtown and we have a third ordinance that is different than those so I thought we would hear the first the ordinance 2023-5 first and then here the other two together so Madam Clerk of fee would read number three ordinance number 2023-5 an ordinance of the city council the city of Orlando Florida amending the Land Development regulations for the Thornton Place Townhomes plan development generally located south of East Washington Street north of East Central Boulevard East of Hill Avenue and west of North higher Avenue and to change the development use for Lot 8 which is comprised of approximately 0.1 Acres providing for Amendment of the city's official zoning months providing for severability correction scrivener's error permanent disclaimer and an effective date second motion by commissioner Sheehan second by commissioner Hill Madam clerk anybody to testify on this one no speakers mayor discussion here none all in favor of the motion indicates about saying aye aye those opposed motion curies okay so we have um nordics relating to a more temporary moratorium on new nightclubs and then some uh proposals related to um service after after 12 o'clock in our downtown so what I'd like you to do Madam alert could you read the titles of both ordinance number 2022-78 an ordinance of the city council of the city of Orlando Florida relating to nightclubs and the downtown Orlando community redevelopment area imposing a temporary moratorium for six months on the acceptance processing and consideration of applications for development orders development permits building permits and Zoning approvals for nightclubs in the downtown Orlando community redevelopment area adopting findings of fact providing for possible extension or early termination of the temporary moratorium providing legislative findings and for Corrections Governor's error severability and effective date we're gonna requested to read both we're gonna read both and so that we can take testimony on both of them oh whatever I I re uh rescind my moment we just withdrawn you with joy yeah okay ordinance number 2023-8 an ordinance of the city council the city of Orlando Florida amending chapter 5 Orlando city code by amending section 5.06 powers of the code enforcement board amending chapter 33 Orlando city code alcoholic beverages by amending section 33.03 hours of service sale and consumption providing for severability codification correction obserivators error and an effective date okay so we're set there no we don't need a motion on either of those for right now so we've made a lot of investment in the last 15 20 years in our downtown and one of the things I ran on when I was first running for mayor was to revitalize our downtown there used to be tumbleweeds going down Orange Avenue and you probably maybe recall if you lived here 20 years ago then at the corner of church in Orange it was a dilapidated um set of buildings that we eventually were able to revitalize and make some great progress in that little political Capital behind the fact that we in fact love our downtown and are going to make it want to best in the country and to do that and in addition to that it's now become really a neighborhood because we have all the residential that wasn't there 20 years ago but to do all of what we want to do we have to have a safe downtown and I would um I get a lot of comments from people that say I would never go downtown at night or especially late night and that's not just people that are commissioner Stewart's age but nice drive I know my age and but that's my 30 30 year old sons that are afraid to come downtown late at night and that's the reputation that our downtown has and we've had some pretty high profile events some shootings that we were lucky that nobody was killed but shootings nonetheless so we've looked at all types of measures we can do and working in conjunction with the owners of the night economy establishments because we're not enemies to them we are friends with them and we want to work together to make this a very safe and comforting and welcoming downtown and also quite frankly in I know commissioner raise a champion is too we need a little bit different mix we can't have just all bars in our downtown and we want to have an environment that cultivates having a mix of different businesses for people of all ages in our downtown so that's what we're working on a lot of you think that this isn't quite perfect yet and maybe it's not but we want to get to where we can have some agreement on some things that we can do in our downtown to make it in fact a safe downtown so we're going to hear a presentation from the ddb CRA and the Orlando Police Department to give us an overview of where we are how we got there what the status is and then some of the proposals that we would like to make so David you want to start that absolutely good afternoon again mayor and Commissioners and I was getting up here to talk to you all about the evolution downtown has gone through the mayor you did a great job at summizing a lot of the comments that at least I will make at the start of this um but you can make them again I I absolutely plan on it and I will mayor thank you uh I wasn't trying to get out of it I promise uh those of you know me as David Barilla I'm the assistant director of The Downtown Development board and the community redevelopment agency as the mayor pointed out you will also hear from our chief of police chief Eric Smith and our assistant City attorney Alex Carden as we talk about these uh varying components um and as the mayor noted over the past 10 20 years downtown has transformed in the way that not only the people who come here see downtown but the way the people around the world see downtown uh in very recent years our population has doubled and anytime you bring residents into an area and you mix that with a lot of lively entertainment there's there's a class of cultures that naturally happens in that a growing pain of sorts that we all need to work through and we continue to work through there's been tremendous Investments to a lot of which thanks to this commission that have brought new and exciting nightlife to downtown we have a world-class Performing Arts Center across the street that we get to see every time we walk out these doors we have the Amway Center Camping World Stadium exploria Stadium all of these components allow downtown Orlando to what I say is play outside of our league When It ultimately comes to being a Center for Energy entertainment Performing Arts and arts and culture is what it all boils down to in addition to that we've added a lot of truly world-class Green Space very recently we unveiled luminary green we have another event coming there just to unfold even more investments in that as we continue to embrace new components of residential and having places for people to do all things live work and play as well and of course we can't forget the Investments that brought creative Village and UCF and Valencia College and integrated higher education not only to downtown but also our Paramore community and the changing aspects that not only has for the individuals who live here and attend those colleges but also who will pass through here and get to experience downtown Orlando as they pass through to move forward in their education and ultimately future years um so as you take all that into account and you think about all the great things we've done uh we've built a really strong Foundation uh and when the mayor talks about needing to be safe in my opinion in my opinion only safety is about probably the one thing and the quickest thing that can undermine all of those great traditional Investments and components and ground we've been able to gain some of you may recall back in 2014 which sounds like a long time ago now but these things take a while to build our ZIP code 32801 was the number one search zip code in the entire country on realtor.com for people wanting to live here and wanting to be a part of all the things that we have going on wasn't too long after that 2019 where Forbes indicated that we were noted as one of the number one cities for real estate in downtowns for real estate and again having some place that's unsafe can quickly undermine all of that ground so it's with that context uh to which unfortunately brought us to a very unfortunate event in May of 2021. um I went a little too fast but I know what it says so you can follow me through it where we did have someone that was murdered in our streets his name was Joseph Torres he was a veteran and he unfortunately lost his life while just going out to have a good time and as you can imagine at your approval we took immediate steps after that to do what was appropriate and to enhance the safety in downtown since that time there's been a leading group of City staff including myself including the Orlando Police Department as well as numerous other departments in the city the fire department code enforcement that have gathered weekly to discuss events to talk about what the best approaches are to bring forward to continuing enhanced safety and through that time the CRA has put aside and spent to that extent over four million dollars on some of those improvements for context and as you recall with some of them were coordinated entry as we look to ensuring that the people entered the area uh were ultimately safe and provided the right amount of inappropriate amount of screenings and weapons detection dogs lighting enhancements we spent nearly a million dollars in enhancing Lighting in the area and continued to to look to do more of that adding more Code Enforcement Officers to the area was a component of those measures in addition to adding cameras to the to the city system you heard me talk about before our incentive program safe where we offered to come alongside our businesses as well and is enhancing multitude of different ways that they can do it and we continue to work with all departments to try and determine what are the best ways to enhance the safety of our downtown so as I know you all can appreciate uh and and coming from me it's hard to read some of the comments that we receive about downtown because quite frankly uh for a person who lives and breathes downtown um as you ask me to do um we never want to hear these things but I think it's imperative that their voices that sometimes need to be heard and what the community uh experiences are so bear with me as these are not my words but I but I do want to share as as you know the top uh comment these are from social media uh and we know how social media can reach the world in very quick uh manners is a resident that lives here and says that he loves living here but he feels the crime is out of control and they're asking for change there is another comment talking about the entertainment District and how over the past recent years it's changed and though they feel uh we're not doing enough and it's been turned over to their words drug dealers and Lawless nightclubs um you'll see more comments one from a business or a person who works in a business worked in a lease on church and just how they were not able to stay based on the lack of diversity to some extent what the mayor pointed to or just if there wasn't an event that was happening in Dr Phillips that the clientele just wasn't there potentially for things like uh the mayor had mentioned people just not wanting to come downtown so losing that ground and safety is something we can't afford to do so with that I'll turn it over to Chief Eric Smith [Music] thank you David good afternoon mayor commissioners as you all know I've worked many of our partners with many of our partners in downtown for several years you know how important downtown is to me safety of downtown is a priority for the Orlando Police Department today you'll hear about some of the challenges we face and the efforts we need to take to improve the safety of downtown there are too many legal guns downtown we all know that the number of officers that are currently working downtown is a strain on a reward Staffing the crime stats you'll see in the next several slides are for a two-year period the crime downtown is much higher after midnight from 2 A.M to 3 A.M time frame it is 25 percent of our overall violent crime in downtown here's a map of our downtown area it's boarded by Colonial to the north Roslyn to the east fourway to the South and I-4 to the West here's a graph of the violent crime cases reported in downtown for 2021 and 2022. as you can see it spikes after midnight here's a comparison from 8 pm to midnight against midnight to 4 a.m the crime is almost double after midnight weapons violations shootings fights officers getting hit is not we need for downtown too fast here's our shootings in downtown as you can see after midnight they Spike it's almost eight times higher in 2022. than it is before midnight here's the guns that are recovered in our downtown as you can see after midnight the number was double in 2022. after midnight we've recovered 120 guns in downtown after midnight so as a result of this we started a surge in October of 2022. what that was is we added 30 officers in the downtown beat and these are officers that are mixture of off-duty and then officers if we don't get enough of Duty that people volunteer then we order officers to fill the Gap they are to support the two downtown bike squads which are assigned down there they are also supported by our attack and special enforcement division squads that come down to assist special enforcement division are drug units as you can see they've been very successful crime has dropped from October November and December in 2022. the search bosses has resulted in 70 reduction in crime however the surge itself is not sustainable the cost is approximately forty thousand dollars per weekend for the off-duty and ordered officers we're unable to justify the type of Manpower allocated to such a small portion of the city our goal is to partner with our downtown stakeholders to reduce the need for the Surge and improve the overall safety of downtown as you can see here's what OPD resources are used downtown and how much it costs the two bike squads cost about 25 000 a weekend the tax squads cost about twenty four thousand dollars a weekend and our special enforcement division our drug units are about 11 000 a weekend so the OPD is coming out in resources about sixty thousand dollars a weekend all right here's the grand total for yearly expenditures so for our on Duty Officers we're spending about 3.2 million per year for our total and all through the officers we're spending about 2.1 million per year it costs about 5.2 million of OPD resources alone now I'll pass it off to Alex Carden our chief assistant City attorney [Applause] foreign good afternoon Mr Mayor commissioners we have two ordinances you heard Madame clerk Reed first one is the nighttime nightclub moratorium that's a temporary six-month moratorium so that City staff can study the effects of new or additional nightclubs within the community redevelopment area within the CRA it's important to study that and at six months if staff needs additional time they can come back to council with a resolution and seek your approval to continue that for an additional six months this is not a ban on existing nightclubs in any way shape or form this is only a moratorium on the new nightclubs in the CRA this timeline would be that in six months from now if this went into effect in August of 2023 that six-month study the results will be presented to council they needed additional time they would then come back to council with a resolution to seek an additional time up to February of 2024. the second ordinance the cork is read for you is the after midnight alcohol sales permit and the objective of this permit is to help curtail the crime in the DEA that the chief has just talked to you about the balance on the police resources and those High demands are being disproportionately allocated to that small area hours of sales for alcoholic beverages is regulated first under Florida Statutes in section 562.14 which sets the hours of sale for alcoholic beverages from 7 A.M until midnight throughout the state only by action from a municipality or a County ordinance could those hours be changed so what we have in the city of Orlando what we've had for years is section 3303 which currently allows for alcohol beverages to be sold until 2 am throughout the week as opposed to that midnight which is the default Bi-State statute so what the after midnight permit the ordinance would do it would change those hours of sales back to that state time of midnight within the DEA but allow for establishments to obtain a permit to continue alcohol sales until 2 A.M to obtain that permit there would be an application and fee there would be public safety measures as a condition of those permit and then of course because this is a permit violations would be um able to be addressed through suspension or revocation if there are multiple violations the application fee is a 250 yearly application fee for the processing of that permit and all that's required in the application is some basic information including the establishment name address location the alcohol license type the immaculative occupancies and the hours of operation for each night so if they're going to be open past midnight on any nights of the week those public safety measures will require five-fold police protection weapons detection systems private security identification scanners and occupancy load monitoring so the police protection component of this is an extra Duty law enforcement requirement and that's based on license type occupancy and ultimately it could be based on traffic control History of Violence events and other factors related to Public Safety however initially it would be based at the minimum level based upon alcohol license type and occupancy the officers will be hired in the same manner as they're hired for current extra Duty positions through our roll call system and officers will be deployed by the chief or the chief's designee throughout the DEA this allows those officers to patrol and have a proactive approach to preventing crime throughout the DEA so if a establishment has 150 persons or more and sells full liquor so that's going to be your four cops your 4cp quota on anyone that sells full liquor would be required to have that extraduting component any other establishments that's establishments that just sell beer or wine or have less than 150 persons of occupancy would not be required to provide any extra Duty law enforcement requirement you can see that in a chart on a per night basis if you had an occupancy and sold full wicker of less than 150 persons the police protection component would not cost anything for establishments that have an occupancy between 150 and 400 persons it would cost 540 on a per night basis 400 to 650 persons of occupancies would be one thousand eighty dollars on a per night basis and that's Friday Saturday and Sunday night only a level of 650 to 1150 persons would cost 1 620 on that Friday Saturday and Sunday night and then if you had greater than 1151 persons would cost two thousand one hundred and sixty dollars for that establishment per night and of course this police protection component is only on Friday Saturday or Sunday so establishments can still sell uh alcoholic beverages past midnight Monday through Friday but that's not when the police protection would be required just on Friday Saturday and Sunday nights in addition to that there would be a weapons detection system component it'll be required again based on license type and that weapon weapons detection system so we're talking really mostly about Metal Detectors or similar systems must be used for everyone entering between 10 pm and when the last person is allowed to enter at 2 am it must be able to detect firearms and knives greater than four inches in length for establishments that sell full liquor and have a occupancy of 50 persons or greater they must have a walk through system all other full wicker establishments must only have a handheld system so the handheld magnet uh metal detecting wands they must reject anyone bringing a firearm or other weapon unlawfully into the establishment the inside security component requires a state license Securities that's generally going to be a Class D or class G security guard they are required to staff the weapons detection system so there's one state license security guard required per point of Ingress so wherever you have that weapons detection system if you're required to have one so those full wicker establishments must have one state licensed person at each place of Ingress to oversee the weapons detection system this does not have to be a separate company they can have their own staff taken through these requirements of the state to be state license so it just has to be a state's license individual who's had that proper training the next component is the identification scanners this again is required for all full liquor establishments and they must scan all patrons entering between 10 pm and 2 am the system must be able to identify fake IDs fraudulent IDs duplicate IDs and must detect of course the age of the individual coming through as well as communicate with any other scanners within that establishment that's what allows for those duplicate IDs not be used at one entrance and then used to have someone else enter at the other they must reject anyone who is entering with one of those fraudulent or duplicate IDs the final aspect for the conditions of the permit is the occupancy load monitoring requirement as a condition that supplies to all establishment types so whether you're full liquor or sell just beer and wine but you must have an accurate count of your occupancy load in real time this count must be kept between 10 pm and 3 P.M or when the last Patron leaves the establishment for the night and the count must be provided to City officials upon request this is only to ensure that each establishment is staying within the occupancy that the fire department has set this is for of course Public Safety to make sure there's not overcrowding in the case of a active shooter or fire scenario with all permits this one can be subject to suspension or revocation if it's used as the site of a qualifying offense three or more times and we'll talk about the qualifying offenses in just a second three or more times within a consecutive three-month period Then the permit would be suspended for a 90-day period if it was four times in a six months then up to 180 day suspension five times in a 12 month period it'd be subject to a 270 day suspension or if it was used six or more violations within a 12-month consecutive period Then That permit would be revoked after a suspension once that time is served whether it be 90 days or 180 days the next day that that time has elapsed they would be allowed to go back to selling immediately after midnight none of these suspensions or revocations would affect their ability to sell before midnight so this is not a shutdown of the establishment it's only a suspension of the after midnight alcohol sales permit if the permit was revoked then they would not just automatically be allowed to resell they would have to reapply for a permit as we mentioned the categories of violations there's only six chapters in the city code or six sections in the city code relating to Public Safety as well as for the statutes relating specifically to Public Safety these have to be used would have to be proved not just as the use of um not the place where these occurred but that the establishment was specifically used as this place where that staff was turning a blind eye to these violations without addressing it for it to qualify as a suspension or revocation the timeline of course for this is the first readings today pass it would potentially go to a second reading on February 6 which is when you'd also be presented with that 250 permit fee resolution this is not proceeded to go into effect immediately but rather on May 1st to give time for these adjustments to be made in the permits to be issued and with that I'll turn it back to Mr Barillo to continue the presentation thank you thanks Alex so the final part of the presentation this afternoon is talking about our resources so as we spoke before the CRA proposed and you ultimately approved the safe program in January of 2022 and as I mentioned under our CRA portion of the agenda we came alongside or offered to come alongside I should say our businesses as well as our multi-family Residential Properties in making investments into safety components you'll see the list here as I mentioned before but security cameras when they enhance that a commissioner as you pointed out connecting with Orlando connect which is the city system connected to OPD installing metal detectors and purchasing those metal detectors and also identification scanners as you heard me mention before we haven't we were not successful in being able to incentivize anybody to install those but due to the components that are ultimately being proposed today and which is why we brought the item before you before we wanted to enhance that program and offer additional funding and now with your approval that funding will be offered up to twenty thousand dollars at eighty percent up until the time which is currently proposed at May 1st this oh ordinance that Alex just described would go into effect at that particular time it would drop back down to 10 000 but the 80 percent matching would still apply so the CRA would be able to fund 80 of those improvements specifically to those items to help come alongside our businesses uh and not only enhance the safety but then ultimately potentially comply with the new requirements of the ordinance um the other resource that we provide is obviously educating all of our stakeholders and and we are stakeholders to everyone uh in downtown uh that includes the businesses um that we're speaking about today that would serve alcohol after midnight uh that includes the businesses that operate here during the day the residents who live in our Towers the seniors who live downtown and ultimately anybody who chooses to come to downtown whether it just be for a night on the town to come to work uh or uh to be a part of our one of our amazing venues and just since um last week I know many of you have received emails like these that share more contacts from residents but you'll see one from a gentleman who lives in Sky house just you know expressing their support their excitement that actions are are you know hopefully finally being taken another from Dr Mason who came before you in September when we were talking about some additional changes and shared his experiences being an emergency room doctor and seeing some of the challenges and also being a downtown resident and having to do with that and other support that we're hearing from the people who live in downtown as well as work in downtown so we have some more to this process obviously we had a stakeholder meeting last week on January 17th that's actually a photo of it there you'll probably see a lot of familiar faces as to people that are here today where we discussed these potential changes and shared context and heard back from the businesses in addition to that we already have scheduled hours at our Discover downtown this week on the 25th and the 26th where anybody who's interested but we imagine a lot of our nighttime businesses would be ultimately able to just walk in speak with a member of our team as well as a member of the Orlando fire department to discuss how this could specifically affect them and we've sent invitations out already to a second stakeholder meeting to continue this conversation which is scheduled for later this week on the 26th we also plan to do a webinar after the second read to continue the education process and what ultimately may be required and of course we'll always have city code available on orlando.gov so that is kind of our context of the items that's before you I know myself Chief Smith and then Alex would be happy to answer any questions okay if we have questions we do have about 20 people that want to testify but if you have a few questions clarify now thank you thank you mayor uh did have a few questions uh one uh pertaining to Traffic Control in other facts I mean is that at the Orlando Police Department code enforcement discretion about traffic control or we're passing on traffic control calls to The Operators as far as traffic Patrol what you mean as far so you're not roads are I don't know I saw it on this is my first time you know outside of Thursday when the lawyer just stated um yeah maybe you need to explain that yes commissioner so as one of the items that the chief of police can take into consideration with what the off duty requirement or the extra Duty requirement would be for an establishment traffic control is one of the factors they can take into consideration but at the onset the initial um permit levels are going to be solely based on occupancy at alcohol license type so that's going to be based so the sole discretion is going to be set in these standards so they're not going to take those factors into account initially those would be studied over the next year and so if they're having a negative impact that the police chief has to deploy you know an exorbitant amount of resources to control the traffic leaving their establishment that is something that they can take into consideration but initially it's going to be set at the lowest level for each establishment yeah so why do we have it in there if it's not going to be analyzed for a year so as so it's in the ordinance so that as the chief police and as this program is viewed we can make sure that if an establishment is disproportionately impacting police resources through their use of traffic events you know they're blocking streets or causing issues or if they have so much you know events that are disturbing traffic that the police chief can I use that as a factor but initially everyone's going to be set at the lowest level right so we're starting today kind of a blank slate I guess mayor I am having an issue with the traffic control component because we're not charging folks uh that's leaving DPAC or Amway Center or Camping World stadium and those different businesses over there when traffic is massive uh I don't know if traffic truly should be passed on to the downtown aquaries I know that's something up for discussion okay but certainly there I anticipate we're going to have some modifications between this read in the next week so that's something we can take a look at yeah so before midnight uh for instance those that have been suspended and if you have been suspended or revoked they're still able to serve alcohol before those hours and we know now uh these clubs sell bottles right so they have the bottle service will you have the patron or whomever just spent 500 on a bottle before midnight now have to pour their bottle out because they purchased the bottle before midnight how does that go or have we thought about that yeah so just like it currently is so right now alcohol sales are allowed till two o'clock and then you're allowed to consume that until 2 30 so for one half hour past closing time and then the establishment must be emptied by three o'clock so all the alcohol has to be removed half an hour afterwards so the same thing would apply but only with a midnight time so it wouldn't change anything it just changes at closing hours so the patron would still have 30 minutes to consume that alcohol and then by one o'clock they would have to have their doors shut see those things haven't been explained to us I don't know about anyone on this Council so I'll just rest for now but this is my first time being made aware that at midnight you shut down the club and then turn it back over yep so I'll leave my comments to listen to someone else commissioner Burns all right thank you mayor uh my first question is regarding the ordinance 22-78 the moratorium um what what so this is a moratorium for six months what are the data points so that we'll be looking at at the end of those six months to determine how we move forward and and what happens next yeah commissioner so during that period with staff and tens on doing is ultimately documenting um not only the exact amount of nightlife establishments that we have Consolidated within our downtown area how that compares to other cities with similar context how other cities ultimately manage their nightlife and either additions thereto as well so it'll be those type of things that researchable staff will be building out during that period to then come back to this council with recommendations uh that would ultimately wind up with ending that moratorium and then either acting some new potential requirements or or whatever is appropriate after that research has been done okay also I know we we did the um sound and noise noise ordinance have we seen any any relief from the festival Atmosphere downtown based on that because I know we're you know we've done some things I'm just trying to see are we monitoring the results of what we've done in the in the past and if so what has been those the changes that we've seen if any sure so I don't want to speak for OPD I can tell you just my own you know personal impressions for having gone downtown on numerous nights since then is we are seeing some positive impacts of having a lower amount of volume now the noise volumes in and of itself during the noise order and it's actually remained unchanged the biggest component of that was to some of our outdoor venues which have made positive impacts and and some positive progress you heard me mention from our residents so people who are living here during the day we have heard some context back from them the overall context of the street party atmosphere that you heard us you know reference at several times during this process I don't I wouldn't say from my perception of drastic change has been has been witnessed just yet do we expect the that ordinance to have an impact on the street kind of the festival atmosphere or we look into these additional ordinances that will work in conjunction to to resolve some of that I think it's all things commissioner I think it is a component of a challenge that was uh noted and acknowledged obviously uh by the commission uh doing all things downtown I don't believe that it was you know the one thing that would change any specific component but that combined with uh what we're suggesting is some number additional changes today and potentially after the research as it relates to the moratorium would continue uh to enhance the environment in downtown and ultimately this 50. okay all right thank you thanks for seeing it it's funny that commissioner Burns and I kind of bringing up the same things because um that was my concern it doesn't really address that noise and and more I'm more concerned about the loudspeakers because when you go right into downtown at that corner mayor Dyer's talking about of us redeveloping and making all those positive changes the first thing you're greeted by is being screamed at by people telling you're going to hell you're a pedophile you're all this you're all that and it's called Ministry I don't know of any Ministry where you're called names All Night Long at huge volumes that you can hear five blocks away so that is a huge part of it everybody else turns their noise the music up to try to drown that nonsense out and it's immediate when you I have never gone to any other city where I visited where I was welcomed by that kind of nonsense nobody else allows it I don't understand why we do and the other thing is this doesn't address the loitering and the congregating outside which is a huge problem um blocking the sidewalks getting into fights as people are scuffling around outside we we have got to deal with the congregating outside of the bars which is a huge problem as well I have spoken to Legal they're going to look at adding something to this because I think we do need to to address those concerns and um and I do think the only concern that I've got about what we're doing today is that you know we know who the Bad actors are but we're painting with a broad brush and I'm a little bit concerned where you know we've got some folks bringing in entertainment with a gang following or to the point where our gang unit has to come out on a Saturday night because they're so concerned about gun violence and nobody else is doing that so everybody's getting punished because of the Bad actors so I'd rather find some way to to punish the Bad actors rather than punish everybody so to speak but um but but we do need to do something because it is it is definitely out of control and I will say that I'm not here after midnight I see a lot of this before midnight my concerns but um you know and I'm with you mayor Dyer I you know my young friends that are in their 30s are the ones that are not coming downtown too so um I do think we need to augment some of this um and and and deal with some of these other concerns as we're moving forwards but thank you David Mr Burns do you have a follow-up question uh yeah yes I do mayor oh I had a question when we talk about the um the extra law enforcement that will be that will be required and it mentions and I'm just looking at the uh The Matrix to where based on the occupancy there's a um a range of officers that will that will be required so can you kind of explain and we we had some discussion a little bit uh earlier about this the assignment of these officers because I know that I've as I understand there are some establishments that hire uh off-duty police officers themselves on their own Arrangements uh and as I understand those officers mainly uh police if you will their establishment uh and so now what we're saying is we're putting in additional requirement well we're putting a requirement that they hire you know if you have a 1100 occupancy or more between four and eight officers and so um who makes the decision of where those officers go because I'm thinking if I'm if I may uh a nightclub owner I've previously you know hired you know X number of off-duty police to protect my establishment my patrons now I'm being required to add an additional four um I may make the decision of okay well I'm paying for an additional four maybe I don't need the ones that I had previously but now as I understand these four will be not around my establishment but potentially down the street or you know in other places so they wouldn't get that protection of their establishment that they were good if they hired them themselves is that correct well they would report to the chief so Chief do you wanna so basically how it works is the first group of officers that are provided by the clubs to us will go towards the downtown beat those are the officers that you see either blocking the orange and Washington Central and orange and then the officers in between that move around in between the clubs and basically take care of the festival atmosphere you talk about talking to people leaning on the wall engaging people in conversation hey how you doing what you're doing here sort of just moving people along so that's where the officers the first group of officers that come from the off duty will go to now if they want to hire above then they can have to have the officers at their business so okay so the the so they will have no influence on where these officers go that they're now paying for no they'll be in that small area most of the almost all the clubs that are paying it basically starts at Orange and Washington goes down to Pine and orange goes down to Magnolia so it's basically we control that area a little bit on Central some of the nightclubs are so they're all in areas that we already have officers at right now so it's basically the 30 officers that we use right now are basically in that area we don't really expand them out past that area besides the bike officers right so so if if I'm if I'm a nightclub owner and I've decided Well not have this extra expense I used to have four on my own now I'm just hiring one that to me that increases the potential need to call OPD if something happened with previously the officers that I've employed will kind of handle it is there a a rapid response system that the clubs will be able to have to you know get some of those officers deployed from where you've placed them to come back to the establishment that may be in question yes the officers are nearby plus we have the bike offices that respond quickly to any incidents at any club as you see any any video you've seen it's mostly the bike officers who responded to the fights the officers from the corner run down to wherever the altercations are we have a very quick response in that small area that's why we control that very small area and we saturate with so many officers to keep any kind of incidents from happening all right and so I wanted to get clarification so we talk about the 30 the 30 offices is that and it was my understand that there's an uh an additional 40 or 50 that's downtown as well so On Any Given night there's 80 or is it On Any Given night in this downtown area or the the Entertainment District that there's 30 just trying to get an understanding because I know where the CRA I believe is paying for 30 and I'm trying to see outside of what the CRA is paying for how many other officers are downtown that just coming from General Revenue so probably I have another 40 but then you also have clubs that you have officers who are working for the clubs so that number varies anywhere from eight I mean not not the ones that work for the clubs all right so for me you're probably the CRA been the CR rate funded plus the General Revenue you know the regular officers that are on regular Duty probably about 70 officers it goes up and down though okay between about 70 officers okay all right thank you commissioner Hill then commissioner Stewart thank you mayor um have a uh hope whomever my how did we come up with this Matrix of costs for the officers commissioner I can't hear you sorry commissioner for the officers yeah the Matrix The Matrix of calls for so commissioner The Matrix is devised by showing it's a set based on the number of occupancy and the alcohol type is so which officers would have to be there but then the numbers are derived from it's the officers will be required from 10 pm until 4 am so that's when we see the beginning and the end of the effects of the midnight sales so from 10 pm to 4 P.M 4 a.m so that's a six hour window each night and then that's at the cost of 90 per hour which is the current downtown rate so when you multiply that out it's 540 for one officer for those six hours how did we come up with six hours if you're if you're close if they already have put in place officers that's required for liquor license from whatever opening to midnight and you're saying this permit extends from Midnight to 2 p.m who came up with the six hour figure that now they have to have um officers two hours prior to the permit that we're putting in place and two hours afterwards yes commissioner so as we explained earlier with the closing time for the establishments the end of sale time is currently 2 A.M so but then of course they can still consume that until 2 30 so for that one half hour and then the establishments don't have to shut down until three o'clock so when we have that push from two to three o'clock when they start to leave the establishments that really impacts the police resources until four o'clock so then of course you also have the police officers to get there before everyone arrives so they can set up the barricades control those rare cases would all do due respect wouldn't all that be in place prior to don't we shut off the roads and all that prior to yes commissioner so as they shut off the roads and do that and have that enforcement as the individual start to come downtown so those officers are in place when those individuals come downtown for the after midnight and they're there until the individuals leave downtown so it sounded like we're penalizing operators for being downtown because people are going to come downtown regardless I I can I can agree with the fact if we're gonna put a permit in place for midnight seems if we should have midnight to four but asking them to receive all of our guests that might come downtown for my bowl games or from what have you to require that that's just we'll get to that um I guess the the calls you have the the still haven't told me about The Matrix and the monies right how did we come up with the the calls when when we have 70 officers I didn't know that we have already 70 officers downtown the average cost for our officers that we pay that are part of just our Force it's what 45 50 an hour so the individuals working the downtown beat and I think Mr role might be able to talk more about this than I can but the individuals working the downtown beats these are extra repositions are currently at ninety dollars per hour no not over time regular pay our officers our 70 officers that part of our OPD team okay um so the extra Duty rate no no no no just have regular fly with the regular offices I went to regular awesome that's just an average pay what the officers make whatever their hourly rate is so that's why it was only 24 000 for like the two bike squads and then it was I think it was attack squads were like 25 000. that's just the average when the out the regular officer make they're on duty they're making whatever their hourly rate is that's their regular pay on dude like you saw the drug unit was like 11 000 because there's only nine of them because we're going to have our our drugs yeah on when we say 40 000 are we passing passing our regular Duty Officers on with that let's say almost forty fifty thousand hundred thousand dollars a week no that's totally separate that's totally separate so the only thing we're going to pay for is the 30 officers which are brought in the off-duty officer so the Off Duty Officers are 30 officers abroad if we don't get enough of off duty we order so we're still paying the same rate that's for those 30 officers that's it the only three officers are there no matter what that's just a regular officers that's their assignment the two bike squads are assigned down there and attack units that are down there come from basically the regular that's their regular assignment Time same with the drug unit the regular assignment time they come down and do what they need to do the 30 officers are part of the surge basically to reduce the crime down there so and and that's as well to about 5.2 million let's say I think that's what it was the 40 000 times whatever time's out I think it was if that was three point something yeah let's say five someone said five yeah so the 40 000 per weekend was approximately 2.1 million per year 2.1 2.1 million that's what we're asking The Operators to uh cover yes the regular on due units was only three was 3.2 million years oh so now we're not because I was told so they're not asking uh we're not asking them to pay the 3.2 because that comes out of General funds exactly expecting them to occur at the 2.1 million dollars per year is it yes per year 40 000 weekend it comes out to 2.1 million per year okay so out of all the club Owners downtown however we might do it is we're looking at a total of 2.1 million yes ma'am I'm getting some so that's why I want to understand the numbers a bit more because I'm getting from some of the operators that they're get one individual Club is going to have to pay almost 850 000 a year then another I've been her told they're getting ready to have to pay almost 700 000 a year and that's two or three operators that will have to occur to 2.1 where will all the other operators that's going to have to do the buy-in where will those funds go so I just want to know more about the numbers now here in this 2.1 because the numbers aren't adding up for me thank you I think the number is more like 300 and some thousand any the most any one of them would have to pay so I don't know where they're pulling those numbers 336 right four officers yeah correct the largest venue I don't know where the Matrix is on here is up to four officers so the four officer rate is about 2100 you multiply that if they were open up every night of the year on those Fridays Saturday Sunday it's about 337 000 that the max that could well we don't know their numbers David we know the city numbers I think it's unfair if we haven't seen their books and no one and and understanding and listening to what it's going to cost them it's not fair to say what the cost is going to be to them and Associate it with them that's why I think it should be a little bit more dialogue between operators ourselves and looking to see what the real numbers are because we're even guesstimating well the only thing that they'd be obligated to the city for is the what is it 336 for four correct correct mayor the 3.2 but it's the two what is it 2.1 or 3.2 I just the numbers just don't add up to a degree I I would like to look at the numbers but that's all I have mayor thank you okay commissioner Stewart thank you mayor um Dave while you're up there let me ask you a couple quick questions we've been talking about this for 16 years that I've been up here um tell me how we somehow we've gotten feedback tell me how we have interacted with with downtown the bar owners tell them tell me our background how we've accumulated some of this feedback sure so specifically actually the slide that's still potentially in front of you is of the Outreach meeting that we had where we shared basically all the components that we just discussed here today with you with them additionally OPD has meetings that a member of our staff attends as well every quarter with our bar life operators that discuss all the variety of things that happen downtown so it's an ongoing process those specifically as it relates to what we're talking about today are one large component of Outreach where we really talk through the specifics of what we're talking about today was last week and we already have another one scheduled for later this week commissioner as well as our you know open Office hours at Discover downtown prior to this over the last several years tell me how we've got been getting some of the feedback I mean I mean I know we had some downtown assemblies I know we had some other organizations and so tell me I'm just trying to yeah so you know it was actually back in 2013 10 years ago give or take specifically we were talking about some similar things that we're talking about today um just in that process alone commissioner there were dozens and dozens of meetings with the majority of our operators where we discussed Concepts and challenges that we're facing and how we would appropriately address them um and various things have happened since then we did bring in other organizations some that you're potentially referring to is responsible Hospitality Institute which encouraged us to do a lot of things but one very specific things was denote specific resources where we brought in a specific position to interact with this Community member keep that level of dialogue that's Justin Eason on our staff who spends a multitude of nights literally out downtown as well as in City Hall not only Gathering feedback but sharing Impressions and just helping ensure that we're being as collaborative as possible while maintaining us and keeping us in the loop at what impacts are working and and what may be worth changing um let me kind of switch gears a little bit and enforcement is a important to me um and it seems to be the biggest challenge enforcement is occupancy um tell me how we enforce occupancy and I think it's enforced through ofd um tell me how we enforce it and and how we can there's any measurement on what we've done in the past six months to a year on enforcement yeah sure so the Orlando fire department recently uh went through all of our establishments downtown and ensuring all of the occupancy data was up to date additionally as of late past six months or so they've been uh coordinating routine checks on occupancy working with establishments alongside of Code Enforcement uh at various times they've had to hold doors to make sure that people were in compliance and not ultimately allowing unsafe or unpermanent situations to exist and that context is anticipated to continue um with the onset of these potential new regulations I I don't want to be too you know black and white on the issue but occupancy is a number and if there's one person more than the number then they leave or the place is shut down that's kind of how I see it uh you don't get a chance to decide that well somebody said it was 150 and now it's 151 we're going to let it go I mean the answer is they leave um I I don't understand if there's an issue is there an issue enforcement in in doing that now I mean how many how many have we actually enforce and and in occupancy at all so the number of checks I mean I recall seeing on the last weekend report so to speak that it was well over 30. um commissioner and that's just from one weekend in checks as far as people and or I should say businesses that were not in compliance I cannot recall specifically how many were not in compliance I'll tell you of the majority the well majority are however there have been instances which they have shared with me in fact one night that I referenced before where I was out there was a specific instance where they had to shut down a venue to that extent to get them into compliance so that's the the background I have on that I don't know if Corey has any additional contacts from code's perspective foreign thank you mayor Commissioners uh Corey Keith division manager for code enforcement so yeah we've worked with ofd with occupancy um that the last six months they've done routine checks sometimes they will hold the door if um the number you know they they feel the number is too high and as a warning but as you've seen in this new order ordinance there is a monitoring system for occupancy we're hoping to reinforce that occupancy so that we don't have the occupancy levels above what is what is allowed so um it without getting the game too black and white um with the new system you have the ability to be able to immediately determine occupancy when you walk to the door because somebody's keeping track of it right correct they'll be in this new ordinance they'll ask to have that number and if it's not available that is taken when somebody's beyond the occupancy level oh there's a variety of things you could do you can write citations which is immediate you can do a warning you you know you can say hey get this under control tonight if if or I'm going to hold the door if I come back again tonight you're getting shut down there's a variety of levels that you can do and Progressive enforcement that you can do on a lot of these violations there's not just a one you know one fits all for anything have we ever had anybody so egregious that we actually just said lock your door and kick them out um we I'm trying to think recently I can't think of any off the top of that top of my head but we have had to do um chain change of use in which you know it was a restaurant or whatnot where we've had to condemn if we come to those you know there's been different places throughout the city in which we've had to do that I can't think of any right off the top of my head down downtown but that is an action we could take in which we would basically find it unfit for occupancy and shut them down okay let's get to the public testimony um okay I had two that signed up for [Music] um 22.78 and then pretty much everybody else was 23-8 but everybody's testimony will be um reported as to both of the ordinances so we'll start with Tim Giuliani and then Luis Romero and then Anna long so Tim Giuliani for you everyone would State their name and address and then you'll have three minutes thank you thank you mayor thank you Commissioners Tim Giuliani 200 South Orange Suite 200 Orlando Florida 32801 I want to thank you all for bringing up this topic I serve as president and CEO of the Orlando economic partnership which is our Region's community and economic development organization I also want to tell you I'm a downtown resident and a leader of an organization with 40 employees in our downtown and want to speak today to support where you're going with these regulations obviously the downtown vibrancy is really important as our identity our economic engine and we're really proud just to be one block away being in the heart of downtown and we believe the need is strong to have just a better and better experience downtown as we're trying to draw more workers back downtown and if we don't do that we obviously face the risk of decreasing property values and tax receipts so we need we all know that people need to feel safe where they congregate no matter what time of the day it is including during the day and people by and large um don't feel safe downtown if we want to compete globally for expansions high-wage jobs if we want to increase our occupancy rates and our downtown buildings then you're going to have to do something different we've got to ensure that companies that are considering an expansion or relocation when they visit our downtown leave confident that it's a safe place and we have the potential to continue the transformation of downtown both private and public you know creative Village is a really good Testament to that work but we got to continue to invest in our downtown core the future of the entire region can be hamstrung and simply just by the time and money it takes to manage the recent surge in crime we believe that a safer downtown will attract more residents it'll bring more workers back it'll bring more visitors downtown and that will help a lot of small and medium-sized companies that find themselves downtown and would benefit from The increased foot traffic and a diverse and more dependable customer base so we stand in support of the ordinances presented today thank you Madam clerk it looks like Luis Romero is um wanting to testify via Zoom see on Zoom we don't have them on Zoom okay then we'll move to analog Brittany Graham Doug Taylor foreign Commissioners my name is Anna long I'm an attorney with the law firm of dmead 420 South Orange Avenue Suite 700 Orlando Florida 32801 I'm here today representing David Simeone he is the owner and operator of Elixir as well as the owner of several other properties operated by other entities for the purposes of today's discussion um I I think a couple of things I'd like to address is is just a generic kind of comment in that while I don't know all of the business owners that are here today I did meet a few before walking in and I certainly know David and none of those owners that I met with want anything but a safe downtown it's bad for business not to have a safe downtown the question is the speed at which this ordinance came before these business owners on the veiled kind of packaging that they were all involved with the process and again to the best of my knowledge that didn't happen on January 17th there was a stakeholders meeting and it wasn't hey guys here's the ordinance we're taking it before the Commissioners and the second reading will be on February 6 and then after that we're going to have a webinar to explain to you what we just passed that's not cooperation that's not how things should work that's not where you entertain the business side of things and keep the people side of things in check as well that should have happened it didn't the ordinance is currently written affects everyone but punishes a few it taxes a few it takes from a few and it doesn't do what you think it's going to do because each of the measures are put in place to occur after 10 pm okay so at 10 o'clock I flip the switch and the weapons security screening process takes place well what about the people that are already in there packing they're in it's 1005. it's 10 30. Code Enforcement comes by or one of the officers comes by and notices a weapon but it's after 10. well you didn't check that person sure did that person was here at 9 30. the same thing happens with your head count the same thing happens with scanning IDs unless you put a time date check on everything that happens that 10 o'clock hour it might be the bewitching hour for Cinderella but is it not going to help you at all do you need me to stop yep that's a shame okay thank you okay Brittany Graham Doug Taylor Frank Camby good afternoon mayor commissioners my name is Brittany Elise Glam I'm a 36 year old single female from Philadelphia I've worked in the entertainment industry for over 10 years in the Miami Philadelphia and Pittsburgh markets I moved here from Miami in 2013 because I've seen the opportunity in growing events the year before I actually the year before I moved I actually traveled every weekend back and forth from Miami to Orlando creating events and showcases at various venues in the city I then was able to secure a job with I Heart Radio where I also continued to build events in the downtown area I moved into a high-rise downtown because I felt it was safe I walk and scooter to work in the day and oftentimes at night after the nightclub closes and never have had an issue I have been the marketing director for the past five years for eight venues with The Beacham Entertainment Group in the past five years I've only had one client reach out to me via social media direct messaging and asks about the safety of the area we are located in when I Market our venues I have never felt the need to stress the safety of the club nights or events I always highlight the fun and friendly environment to have a good time and Escape for a short few hours I also Market that we all we have all types of events for all ages genres of music and being a place to celebrate Milestones or just enjoy time with other like-minded people we recently had a couple that met at the beach and five years ago reach out to us they wanted to surprise their family with the announcement with help from us they were having a baby and this was the place it all started I have also seen marriage proposals done during our events people celebrating anniversaries birthdays graduations and more our Entertainment District thrives on making people happy with a sense of community while Orlando is a family driven experienced City it also gives adults on vacation a place of enjoyment in downtown area with my experience and the time in Orlando I have seen it change and grow positively in what the downtown Entertainment District offers I myself attend events concerts sporting events and club nights throughout downtown because I feel safer here than anywhere else in the city some of the challenges and frequently asked questions I have in my job are parking is very very expensive traffic patterns vary and restaurants are not open late enough I feel with the recent proposed ordinance it could hinder people from the experiencing what we have to offer or give them the wrong idea about the city beautiful we have the opportunity to continue to develop into a thriving Metropolis with economic growth and The Beacham Entertainment Group one of the longest standing businesses in downtown would like to contribute to the Fulfillment of creating a safe friendly environment for all thank you thank you Doug Taylor Frank Hamby George maltazo's okay thank you Frank Hamby Frank Hamby 907 old England Avenue in Winter Park Florida first of all I'd like to thank commissioner Hill for doing basic math I think you're correct in what you came up with our companies have owned property in downtown Orlando for over 30 years these properties include The Beacham theater and the social in the early mid and mid 1990s Orlando had few restaurants bars apartment buildings or any other amenities that provided entertainment or social opportunities for the public what downtown did have were plenty of tattoo parlors wig shops and vacant storefront owning property in downtown Orlando was a very trying experience solely but surely new businesses sprouted up these businesses tended to be bars clubs small restaurants that cater to nighttime business the ddb and City encourage small-time entrepreneurs to come and invest money with their and their talents zoning and building departments approve these businesses these small independent business owners organically filled the void left by years of Decay and Abandonment for years these businesses were encouraged and praised by the city officials for bringing vibrant night life to the city now it's being argued that new ordinances are needed because the streets are Lawless and out of control in fact a city staff member and Tuesday's meeting referred to people that come to the Entertainment District as undesirable by the city's own estimate about 4 million people per year visit the downtown district with this influx of people there are going to be issues but it seems ODP has addressed it and what we need to do is figure a fair way to pay for it people are not coming if they think downtown is unsafe using odp's own metric 99.99 of people that visit downtown do not cause a problem their average age is about 27 years old there's a mix there's a 50 50 mix between male and female and a large number of lgbtq community frequent downtown most live within 10 miles of downtown however tourists make about 15 percent of businesses most Dev jobs and their incomes tend to be higher than the average Orange County average wage there's also a decent percent of college students that come downtown the future creative class my children come downtown they go to concerts and dance at at the clubs there are college graduates with good jobs and I don't think they are undesirable I don't think that 99.99 of the people that come downtown are undesirable based on comments from City staff the city now wants a new type of downtown the venues that filled the void many years ago are now expendable the venue the people that want to make this change say it's about Public Safety two months ago the city enacted new definitions on sound ordinances and required businesses to spend thousands of dollars on engineered sound studies that was about Public Safety I don't think this is this is about Public Safety this is about a new downtown model that doesn't include what's already been here this new ordinance would give code enforcement basically unlimited power to shut down any business that sells alcohol after midnight those sales account for about 75 percent of most of revenue for most places excuse me can I go on now we've got a whole bunch of people all right thank you for your George maltose Greg Reynolds James oh hi mayor Commissioners thank you for your time today uh my name is George maltesos 46 North Orange Avenue uh 32801 I'm not in support of 12 a.m or 2 A.M permit or the regulations built in our businesses have have been doing most things in this ordinance for years we monitor our occupancy we voluntarily close down and that could be attested by the police department we asked them to help us close when we are over capacity or getting there um the difference in this permit is that 12 am has extra regulations that does not address the outdoor issues issues businesses and citizens have no control over issues that are under the jurisdiction of Law Officers we have not had adequate guidance on the first ordinance passed in October and then staff introduces the second ordinance six days prior to reading the Russian lack of communication would leave one to wonder the real motives behind the ordinance have operators that kept the boards off the storefronts for 30 years mayor Dyer your words maybe 25 years you said back then um have met their limit of Acceptance in the city of Orlando four months ago city council said that is not the case at all they said they embraced the hospitality operators and they are an important part of downtown 5.2 million people a year Embrace this industry and feel the same way ask for paying for off-duty downtown The Beacham group currently pays four officers during this period of time for 300 000 per year our officers have provided police assistance countless times to the area north of Wall Street for years because we pay OPD they do not do anything else as a misconception they are officers and they frequently leave our uh our establishments to do police business we pay officers to be at our business because of lack of time when calling 9-1-1 and the community has benefited from it for years we do not have a problem paying more detail as we have offered in the past we feel there there should be full participation in the bill for the officers parking lots restaurants food trucks everyone open after 12 a.m should participate uh they are all contributing to people downtown if you remember one of the worst incidents that happened at one of the smallest bars on a week night was called vixen um bad people do have bad people do not have a face you do not know who they are until they are doing something you only see them when they prey on others the slideshow has peaks of crime from 12 to 2 yes this is when the concentration of people is at its greatest [Music] um more people more problems as the city knows with their own facilities this is why city employees employs 30 to 100 police officers for their events and that's what it takes to secure an area correctly and now that you've put the surge of officers in you are securing it correctly because and I'm sorry I'm going over but because you are showing it on your slide crime is going down right thank you very much okay Greg Greg Reynolds James Marone Jeff Guido thank you Commissioners and mayor Greg Reynolds 322 East Central Boulevard Orlando Florida 32801 thank you Commissioners for this opportunity to speak in support of this important issue that affects all that live downtown Orlando I moved to downtown in 2004 from college park because I love the energy of living working playing downtown Orlando the bars and entertainment establishments provide entertainment that support Downtown City living I like to make personal observations late night energy along Orange Avenue and a short distance along Central Avenue has changed over the years to the crowd that is to my opinion very rowdy um they've there are there have been a very few bad folks in our world that have unfortunately changed reality to how people interact in congested environment there was a time when you had no need for heavy security metal detectors or cameras or to protect the masses reality is that security must be ramped up to provide safety net for the few bad folks that make life for the masses inconvenient I believe and I would think that I speak for a lot of the residents that live downtown whoever it is that drives the masses to their establishments should have the largest stake and protect in their patrons if the masses require extra security those establishments should pay for the added security I was shocked when I learned on the news that the city was spending forty thousand dollars a weekend to pay for extra security yikes why should I as a taxpayer in the city pay for extra security needed for downtown establishment I understand that bars and entertainment establishments downtown also pay city taxes and that they are entitled to security like any other entertainment establishment in the city limits it's the extra security that is needed that they should pay for I applaud the city for taking past proactive security measures I applaud the city for making proactive recommendations moving forward with continued enhancement security measures this is all about Security in our downtown neighborhood from my perspective as a city resident and taxpayer this proposed city code makes common sense I truly believe that the city is doing their best to establish a good city code I would hope that it will not be modified through time if it is found that it's a high burden on the downtown establishments yeah um establishments need to be proactive yet they need to make money I support the proposed city code and hope that it goes into effect soon I did want to say that yikes two million dollars a year I thought to myself I send an email constantly to my commissioner and mayor asking for two for money for our brick streets and I hope that if you do save this money that our brick streets can be taken care of thank you okay thank you James Marone Jeff Guido John San Felipe thank you thank you Commissioners mayor my name is James Marone 25 West Church Street Orlando Florida 32801 we're going to start today by jumping to the end which in this case is asking you to vote no on the ordinance I would also like to ask that we have an immediate meeting with mayor and the rest of the industry affected in this proposed measure now for my reasons do we have a safety issue downtown yes we do no one debates that it's how we move forward that is the concern of the small businesses downtown we have a huge influx in population downtown and to say that this is a bar and Nightclub issue is beyond wrong we have more traffic for several reasons Beyond downtown nightlife the new high-rise is going up everywhere addition to the Amway the Dr Phillips Center all great things for downtown but the infrastructure that should have been in place to support this namely increase in the police presence was not adequately adjusted and now because of this you're asking a small segment of the business to Bear the brunt of the costs associated with hiring off-duty police force at a more overtime rate of the average officer plus a 10 administration fee if this is truly a safety issue with no end in sight then why are we not hiring permanent police officers at a fraction of the cost the way this is currently written small businesses open after midnight would be paying ninety dollars an hour minimum six hours starting at nine pm to 4 am so six hours in order to be open for two additional hours so 594 dollars a night ninety two thousand six hundred and sixty four dollars not including the extra holidays tacked on the average starting salary of an officer at OPD fifty four thousand forty eight dollars according to orlando.gov almost half the proposed cost and it gives you an officer who is not tired from already working their regular work week not only that but we are paying dedicated officer rate and may never ever see that officer for days depending on where they are needed in a world outside of public outside of public taxes which are claiming this isn't does a business pay for personnel to secure their business but they can make their own schedule and go and come as they please why are a small segment of businesses being asked to privatize the police force for the public streets we know they are not securing the inside of our businesses the inside of our locations are the safest places as we require metal detection systems and Pat Downs now before entering all of these are issues that need further consideration before throwing the cost on businesses that do not that do their majority of Revenue during the last few hours of the evening some businesses will close because of this which I'm sure is the ultimate goal and some will just cut staff raise prices to compensate for the expense this is hurting small businesses and their employees and helping no one thank you for your time and consideration [Applause] let's see John San Felipe John samplopo Beacham Entertainment Group 46 North Orange Avenue in downtown Orlando mayor Dyer and city council thank you for giving me the time to stand up here today and speak we employ we employ over 250 people with a substantial payroll we also currently employ through roll call OPD over three hundred thousand dollars a year currently and off duty with the minimum chart we'll be pushing right around six hundred thousand dollars with the maximum chart I could be pushing as much as a million dollars a year I'm up here today to ask you to please pull this from the agenda that Midnight use permit from the agenda today so we can study it a little bit more we just learned about this agenda on some of the details only four business days ago when we are called to that meeting we thought we were going to get the updates on everything that was passed regarding the noise ordinance sound studies proper licensing so we could be in compliance we were kind of blindsided by this process since the last order was passed we were only asked one time to submit our sound study so it could be used as comparison or a benchmark other than making sure we registered who our managers were I have not heard anything from anyone from the city regarding the updates on how and when that ordinance was going to be implemented I don't know if we can move forward on a 2.0 version of that ordinance without making sure everybody's in compliance with the first ordinance we have spent tens of thousands of dollars on a sound study hundreds of dollars putting putting together a book that contains over 50 licenses that it takes for me to operate in downtown Orlando there's still a lot of confusion of the last ordinance the week before New Year's Eve one night we were approached by City staff and we were told that our DJs had to have a permit or a license to DJ after one o'clock that was incorrect information we were able to resolve that problem however this is just one example of many from the first ordinance not being fully executed and implemented to make sure that everybody's in compliance moving forward I believe we should fully Implement what was passed in October and then study the ongoing business practices and safety of downtown Orlando before we create another ordinance that may may or may not be necessary at all we should be working together with City staff we shouldn't have to show up to a meeting and be pushed into a Direction that's probably unnecessary it frustrates me that we sit up here and the presentation was given to you on all negative social media about downtown Orlando and nothing positive about downtown Orlando there's a reason why 60 000 plus people come every week to downtown and have a great time it was mentioned by a city staff member that the crowd in downtown Orlando is undesirable and that no one goes to an Amway Center event and then comes to the downtown Entertainment District that's just not accurate I sent you a letter my company sent you a letter with a PDF attached to it please open up the PDF and look at it 90 of those pictures were taken from last Friday night I don't know what an undesirable crowd looks like however I think those pictures will tell a completely different story it's not my intentions of being disrespectful here today I'm just extremely frustrated onto what is going on and how the process is being carried out and not having the proper amount of time to discuss it be part of the discussions to talk about its possibility of the consequences and unattended consequences that it may cause thank you for your time thank you Kate Claude felter Marco Kozlowski Monica McCown Kate cop hello again City Council my name is Kate clodfelter I'm going on five years as the Director of live music for foundation presents and was recently proudly nominated for women who mean business 2023 by the Orlando Business Journal as a small business a local business Foundation presents puts on hundreds of shows a year in our venues the beach and the social and outside our walls at House of Blues Hard Rock Live Dr Phillips Center St Augustine Amphitheater and more having grown up in Central Florida have a deep love for Orlando I've watched our living breathing City adapt and change vastly over the years I've seen our close-knit welcoming Community unite in tragedy and come out stronger in the face of adversity the diverse culture we've collectively created is what makes our city so special with live music entertainment and nightlife being a vital sum of our parts while our city continues to change one thing has stayed consistent and that's the vast number of people who flood downtown at night because in downtown Orlando life happens at night safety is always the most priority at our businesses and I often hear compliments from patrons on how much they appreciate our safety measures and that they love attending our venues because they know they're safe as a 28 year old woman I know what it's like to always have to have my guard up and so I pride ourselves on providing safe spaces for anyone who comes through our doors to feel safe crime goes up in any city after midnight unfortunately I think that's human nature and yet when I walk through downtown at all times of day or night I often feel safer at night because of its liveliness we host many shows that cater to a young or underage often female audience who like to line up outside our venues sometimes as early as 8 A.M for a 7 PM door these early shows are the ones that give me stress the most because of the harassment and physical assault our patrons have to deal with from some of the transient population in downtown I've personally been accosted and had hands laid on me in the middle of the day by a mentally ill individual who needs professional help during the day sometimes downtown feels like a Barren Wasteland and we're on our own to take care of its citizens waiting on a public sidewalk at night I do not have the same fears or stress because it's alive with culture and they're is more of a police presence service industry workers represent the third largest job category in Central Florida while we are collectively responsible for bringing a booming economy and countless jobs to downtown General Public Safety as a whole should not fall on the shoulders of small local businesses in closing I ask that you please vote no on the proposed unreasonable after midnight measures we are still very confused on what has passed in October on the noise ordinances it is very frustrating and stressful as an operator trying to run a business that brings real value to a community I love thank you for your time thank you Marco Kozlowski Monica McCown and then Scott kuch Ruba hello Marco Kozlowski uh 23 West Pine and um no yes cocktails and screams and um one up I only heard about this a few days ago I'm one of the owners of the bar and we acquired a space that that we have to be compliant with with a for cop license and I don't know if you're familiar with what the market is for a for cop license but we're at 925 thousand dollars and 10 years ago I was living out of my car and I have worked very hard to be able to get the money put together to be able to invest and give our patrons if you've ever been to any of our establishments they're a fun safe place to be we've installed people counters so we know at all points in time how many people there are in our establishments we have concentrating with our staff and for this the only time I've ever heard of someone having to pay something without having control over it it's I've seen a few movies where hey give us 600 bucks a night you're never gonna or you're closed and you're never going to see the person that is supposed to protect you that sounds like the mafia that's exactly what that is I don't think it's fair I think um and I don't I think rushing this to a point Without Really I I've heard that there's been if you spent two years putting this together many months of hard work with business owners we haven't been consulted other than four days ago so I'm concerned that things are being rushed through to a point that are a concerning B uh if you study at the cities that you say you have compared to actually open later than midnight so I I just don't understand uh I'm sorry I'm not prepared other than just frustration that someone was murdered uh in front of a roadway Roadhouse are we changing are we insisting from from a crazy human being are we insisting that that establishment now has to pay as well I think this should be a partnership with business owners on how to make us all safe which at the end of the day we all want we all want to be safe nobody wants to go into a place where they're not safe I'm not from here I my parents escaped Nazi Germany and I'm immigrated for here and uh I'm very proud to be here with the freedoms that we have or that we used to have what difference does it make if we're open if a business owner investing a million dollars just to have the opportunity to offer a really great experience for our customers is cut off at the knees now with this moratorium we can't even open so now what do we do those two hours represent 30 percent of our opening hours that's 30 off of business so you're asking us to sit down and smile while we don't see the police officer that we we prefer to hire privately let's privatize it no problem let's figure out a solution where it's not it's not on the burden on the backs of the taxpayer but of the business owner so we can solve this properly and not be this we call this as a Shakedown so vote no I vote to sit down and get this resolved in a way where we can all be happy and keep everyone safe yes Monica McCown and then Scott catroba Steve Garrity hi I'm Monica McCown from 55 West Church Street just want to start out by noting that Jeff Judo got skipped um I sent a letter to you all already last week outlining some of my legal concerns of the constitutionality of the ordinance um there are no restrictions exemptions objective criteria numbers limits to cost or anything in this ordinance everything that we saw in the presentation today about occupancy 150 occupant exemption how many officers per occupancy those are all not included in the ordinance so at the very least we need to start including some objective criteria in the ordinance and not give only the chief of police discretion over how all of these safety measures are implemented and how they're implemented from venue to venue based off the presentation today however with 150 person occupancy exemption only about a dozen venues will actually have to pay for the extra Duty Officers that'll be deployed throughout the city um some venues like on Church Street will have to pay over three hundred fifty thousand dollars a year for officers that'll be deployed on Orange Avenue and the total charge for this extra Duty policing to the businesses would be over four million dollars not the 1.2 million that the CRA is currently paying the ddb and CRA the nighttime economy committee and the business owners were not consulted at all in the crafting of this ordinance in 2016 we all know the rhi the responsible Hospitality Institute came in and did a study for us they did our Hospitality Zone assessment um in that they actually recommended going away from extra Duty police officers and hiring a special trained squad for downtown Orlando that's meant to police downtown Orlando and understands the special needs of the nighttime economy and the downtown entertainment Zone downtown Orlando needs more policing both day and night as David you know showed us in his presentation we've doubled the amount of residence we've added UCF and Valencia we've invited Millions more visitors to Dr Phillips Center and Amway Center all that increase besides all the new Office Buildings all that increase of um residency and use in downtown Orlando justifies a significant increase in the amount of police in downtown Orlando however adjusted for inflation opd's budget actually reduced this year we all want more police downtown day and night um but we need to do it in a way that doesn't risk putting our businesses out of business under this proposal would only be a handful of companies that are paying for all of the off-duty police so I would like to call on you all today to vote no on this ordinance we need to reconvene the nighttime economy committee we need to go back to the rhi study do the research that they're suggesting and make the right decisions for all of our businesses thank you foreign good afternoon mayor and city council thank you for giving us this opportunity first thing I like to say is I never want to go after Monica because the data was very impressive um we own properties on 43 and 33 East Pine Street in downtown Orlando uh we own orlandojobs.com McQueen social Lounge bullet bar Crow attic tree house basement and soon to be poppy Smash Burgers hopefully in the next couple weeks uh I chair athlete connections we just did a toy drive that provided toys for over a thousand kids on Mercy Drive which was supported by all the downtown venues I was the president of the Orange County Sheriff foundation for seven years I founded the Seminole County Sheriff foundation and vice president I founded the Orlando police foundation and vice president and we just presented them with a 450 000 check for our from our foundation the reason why I'm saying this is not to be braggadocious at all but I want you as a city council to know the type of owners and the type of people we are that run these venues downtown uh we are small business owners we're extremely vested in everything that the city does and we do too want a vibrant downtown we want a safe downtown number one I am not sure why this permit and we discussed this permit is being in place for inside the venues when all of the violence is outside the venues we sat and discussed extensively the occupancy I'm not sure how that addresses the goal of making downtown safe does that need to be looked at and not not no argument there but how does that address the goal of making the streets of downtown safe so the permit to me is in question when all the items listed in the permit and they dumped all the ordinances and all the laws for that permit into that but those are already in place those are already being handled by like we heard earlier the Orlando Fire Department the police officers the code enforcement the alcohol and beverage and tobacco those things are already in place why are we coming on top of that is that a power move to to put pressure on the bars or to make the bars fall in line with a certain direction I think that's some of the questions when we deal with the off-duty police officers in downtown and we say how important it is to keep people safe in downtown why are we using extra Duty police officers at 90 an hour plus ten percent administration fee [Applause] power an average police officer will make between thirty dollars an hour to forty dollars an hour plus expenses that is not what we're here for that is a not a partnership that is not a shared cost let us sit down at the table let us do the math and let us participate in share costs we have no problem with that we have had security measures for the safety program 95 plus percent of those things are already in place can we use that money to upgrade and improve 100 we will and we will take advantage of that but those things have already been in place downtown is not Lawless like they said in one of the continents we are very regulated industry and we take pride in what we do for Vibra in Orlando thank you thank you Steve Garrity Victor Chapman good evening Aaron city council I'm Steve Garrity representing Highwoods properties at 201 East Pine Street in downtown Orlando everyone enjoys and believes quality of downtown experience is important for all 24 hours you know I've only been a resident here for about 16 17 years now and often I say what does Winter Park do what does Winter Garden do what do these other cities do that we are not doing I think the issue is harmony for all and things are not harmonious Highwoods has been a significant investor in downtown much like many of you we own seven Office Buildings 1.7 million square feet but we've been investing for 30 years in this community I did the math very quickly I think it's roughly about nine million dollars in sales tax and real estate tax that we spend for this community and we're proud of it we spend significant amount of money on security significant amount of money on cameras and lighting and we're proud of what we do and we recognize as challenging for all to do the same but it's important with Community big events that are we we have we hire off duty police officers we require our customers to do the same it's expensive No Doubt the city beautiful continues to become more Diversified with not only businesses but recently more residents we have a wonderful City people enjoy coming to downtown for the Performing Arts Center the soccer basketball nightlife it's an exciting vibrant City until early evening weekends crime and safety midnight has been negatively impacted downtown it's been discouraging to see some food and beverage companies that I know that have left downtown creating the void that some of you all have been talking about and it's not right for all of us to experience this void because of some issues that in my opinion are only in a couple hours a day only limited to the weekends call the weekends Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday foreign companies moving out that is that is restaurants and bars moving out some don't even want to move in this activity I'm talking about again is between one and four damaging our gates every single solitary night the gates to our garage which are very expensive even though our garage is a well lit Highwood supports making downtown Orlando a safer experience for all and we are in favor of this proposal thank you thank you Victor Chapman followed by Dennis Wells I'm sorry Victor Chapman you're up yes uh good afternoon mayor members of the commission my name is Victor Chapman my address is 18 Wall Street Orlando Florida 32801 I'm a partner in the law firm of Barrett Chapman and Ruta where we have practice law since 1990 in the city of Orlando we've had many employees we've had as of uh 24 years ago we've been at 18 Wall Street during most of that time we have leased our property our down uh downstairs part of our property to the other bar and I haven't spoken with him yet but my tenant is sitting right over there to my knowledge there's never ever been a knifing shooting any of the bad stuff that we're talking about inside the other bar or inside of the other bars around us I see David simoneau who over here over here who I'll walk through his parking lot I patronize his restaurant it is the safest place you could be commissioner Sheehan I I agree with your observation if there is a problem and the people who are causing the problems should be punished they should be put out of business but the people who are not causing the problems should not be taxed inordinately the one gentleman ahead of us talking about Taxation and and made an analogy but we're talking about small businesses uh George was talking about his business has to over 200 employees what are those people are going to do when they lose their jobs commissioner I believe you commissioner Hill you were pointing out there's a lot of people visiting these places for the ball games and the other things going on this is a way over burdensome for a handful of businesses these businesses just survived covid and I I can speak for my tenant who again I didn't talk to before today I just found out about this yesterday they survived covid barely now this could easily put them out of business for something they haven't done they haven't done anything wrong so I would I would stress beg the commission to not impose these requirements on these these businesses thank you thank you Dennis Wells good afternoon my name is Dennis Wells my address is 250 Pine Cone Lane in Longwood I'm here as an attorney representing The Beacham Entertainment Group and Mr Mayor since I didn't hear you announce anyone else I'm assuming you're saving the least for last I got a couple more all right I know thank you maybe that last person will move in um I'm going to ask you to table this and send it back and I think the main reason is the following you recently passed an ordinance on to try and essentially control or what may basically be an attempt to eliminate some of the noise downtown if you do this you pass this ordinance at this time you're going to be in the process of beginning to severely control and perhaps eliminate some of the customers who come downtown now for all of us we don't necessarily go out between 12 and 2. as I look around this room I probably don't see as many of the patrons as you would see downtown during those hours but if you put in a position the business is in a position that they cannot sell alcohol between 12 and 2. those customers might very well not come downtown anymore and when you eliminate those customers you're going to be a limit beginning the process of eliminating those businesses all of those businesses make a good bit of their money between those hours of 12 and 2. now you may be in the process of of trying to eliminate some criminal activity that has taken place downtown but I listened to this at the beginning of this session and I noticed that about four districts indicated that they had problems with crime within their districts District Two I believe was first and mentioned the motorcycle incident this past weekend then I think I heard Miss Hill you mentioning something about your District maybe it was Miss Sheehan uh with the problems there and then uh heard the mention about guilt and the crime problems there so the question becomes if crime is really the issue why isn't this ordinance going to apply city-wide because the fact of the matter is when you cause people to not come downtown who might otherwise be criminals they're going to go someplace else you're going to see crime still there and I don't think from what you we've seen today you have seen in Apples to Apples comparison of what criminal activity exists downtown versus other parts of the city and that is why you need to table this to take a real hard look now I looked at the ordinance that I found online and the two and the big problems I found in that ordinance were these you got two people who are going to make all the decisions for whether these businesses can continue to function the chief of police and a code enforcement officer you're also going to have a situation where there's a strict liability for any business for what happens there look at the ordinance at lines 194 through 274 the proposed ordinance and you will see that if criminal activity or something and very minor criminal activity takes place in any of these clubs they're all subject to being closed down and when you do that you're going to go back to a downtown like it was when I moved down here in 1983 a place where nobody came down here after 8 PM okay thank you thank you so we have two left Michael Beal and then Tammy Cohen mayor I have some additional names to your list okay we have more than two left are you taking some of my time kidding my name is Michael Beal 250 North Orange Avenue Orlando Florida 32801 I've been a businessman downtown for now going on 23 years I've had offices in at least three locations and I have truly enjoyed our time we we when I moved downtown I was excited and still am but we are facing problems I typically don't find myself on this side of the issue I do not think private Enterprise can handle these issues best but I now find that with the problems we're having I think we need to take action I have friends clients that have been violently attacked downtown in the evening we have properties that are damaged constantly the parking lots are trashed at all times and just so I don't feel picked upon anyone has a surface parking lot by your recent ordinance has to spend a lot of money to secure that lot we have one that handles 94 cars and it's going to cost us over a hundred thousand dollars to secure that so this isn't just you all that are affected by this uh well I do not agree with every part of the ordinance I think we must work to stem the problem at hand and I respect for the requests that you vote Yes on the ordinance thank you thank you Tammy Cohen she's a general apparent speaker can I just start speaking right now are you Tammy Cohen yes yeah hi my name is introduce yourself and oh okay sorry um my name is Timmy Cohen my address is 209 Clemens Court Orlando Florida I'm sorry I'm very nervous give me one second here I have to go to my notes my name is Tammy Cohen I'm an lgbtq civil rights activist along with black lives matter activists I'm a third generation Holocaust Survivor my great-grandmother was Irene zizblatt she wrote A New York Times bestseller called diamonds in the fecal matter anti-Semitism edits an all-time high with wild Jewish conspiracy theories about the Jewish people and there is a anti-semitic website that is being spread around all over the State of Florida as you guys know this is some of the conspiracy theories that they're accusing the Jewish people of which is covid uh Jews controlling all of the media six Jewish corporations owning all the media okay 80 percent of Joe Biden's cabinet being Jewish okay and these flyers are very hard to see because when you are on the news when you look at them on the news the news agencies actually blur these out so they can't so I was looking into this stuff and I would just went to the website and downloaded these so white supremacists are blaming Jews for Mass migration they're saying there's 30 Jewish NGO groups they're blaming Jews for slavery uh they're blaming Jews for gun control they're blaming Jews for Trump all of his donors being Jewish okay they're also blaming Jews for pornography and hookup culture okay all of this so um these conspiracy theories are just running wild I mean lgbtq movement I mean we're getting blamed for every freaking thing in the world here abortion um Disney child grooming so although all of the executives are Jewish at Disney and it you know it's stated here um I think that I can come up with a solution and instead of demonizing people you know for this hatred I think that the solution is me being a Jewish person that we should just come clean and just talk about like the involvement like all of the names here like EV the news that's calling it hateful they're calling it bigoted they're calling it anti-semitic but all of these names are factual so we can either make anti-Semitism punishable by death like we did in the USSR okay or we could take away free speech or we can just talk about the facts okay I'm Jewish our people are controlling all of America okay so I'm I want to stop anti-Semitism by being honest and that's all I have thank you okay I inadvertently picked up a general appearance request as you might suspect um do you have some other uh requests we have two more speakers okay two more speakers Jeff Peter thank you Jeff Guido in person and Carolyn Harvey be a zoo thank you um so I think uh I think mostly the last time I was up to speak I kind of just tried to pull the lens back a little bit when it was about the Sound Ordinance um and I think I more or less echoed that sound isn't crime Etc oh sorry sir uh Jeffrey gito uh 116 South Orange Avenue business address uh V group represent a bunch of bars downtown um as some may or may not know um I believe I I think in my opinion talking with most of the bar owners We Are all uh simpatico with with the commission and what's what what the goals are what the goals of the future of downtown are and everything like that I would even like to say I would think that we are much more aligned than you may think um and moving forward with the Sound Ordinance and with uh the redefining of the definitions and the rewriting of the land use code there is significant communication back and forth and and I feel that we were intellectually authentic you know there's different things that all of us have to navigate through this and including the chief um which we're all aware uh and I think maybe when we were all called last week uh there was a lot of discussion of some of these topics but it all kind of came at us as a as a hurricane um matter of fact I think I might even told Alexander uh I didn't know what to say I didn't have any questions I said I just need to sit on this um the reality is maybe all of us could probably get behind the moratorium if the moratorium has been set on all sides by getting data but that same logic should be applicable to an after midnight permit which we went through the stance in 2013. that one was a little bit different we were going to extend the hours we don't need to go through that but it was met with a lot of the same fear and so what you're hearing from us is fear not hearing from us that we want to get in the way of the goals of the city I think a reasoned Cadence and kind of seeing how the waves come down from these last four things that were just passed while taking the data of the six-month moratorium and maybe tabling this to having some um collaborative sessions in regards to what is palatable um I think if there was objective criteria criteria that we all knew that maybe wasn't um as it was mentioned strict liability which I do believe strict liability I mean who those of you who know that what that is there's no way for us to control actions of patrons and you know to take other laws that other agencies have to monitor and enforce and to put them in an Omnibus permit where you can take away people's investment backed expectations and at least some of us 20 years worth of operational capabilities um I don't know if that's fair and maybe that may be the the the the Touchstone of my point is fairness thank you thank you hey Jeff I'm also sorry I had you further up and I think I called your name and then somehow skipped back over here next is Carolyn Harvey via Zoom please unmute your device hi good afternoon do you hear me yes we can thank you my name is Dr Caroline Harvey and we own with my husband reference Wayne Harvey we own jamming restaurant which is located at 65 North Orange Avenue Orlando Florida 32801 we're on the corner of East Washington and um orange and I just wanted to take some time out we like everybody else only heard about this days ago um we own a restaurant we have a cup two license so the majority of our money comes from the revenue that comes after the Club's close which is after the two o'clock hour currently um I would like for this to be tabled because the businesses the bars and the restaurants work really well together and are very aligned however I don't think we've been given the opportunity to align and discuss different ways to to look at this situation we all obviously want to have a safe at Orlando it's best for us it's best for our business it's best for anybody coming down town um we personally pay private security to help the downtown Orlando situation again we're a restaurant a minority-owned restaurant I'm very concerned with this particular bill that we will be in a position where it could actually impact our business to the point that we are going to lose a considerable amount of our money what hasn't been looked at is the restaurants that are open after the clubs close and get the patrons that way some of the people that come into the restaurants are coming in to actually use restrooms so if we had public restrooms outside that would move a lot of the people along number one and number two we haven't we haven't looked at um you talk about occupancy it's very hard to win 20 000 people are coming out of different areas to be able to get food in a restaurant how do we I mean we haven't looked at any of this and I'd like for this to be tabled so that we as business owners can get together and figure out what we can do to help the situation and that's really where I am thank you [Applause] that's all I'm here okay that's all and I we don't have any general appearances today now okay here's what we're gonna do we're gonna need to read each of these but to um eliminate the aspect of we haven't had this long enough and we need more time and we need more time to have discussions the second reading of the two ordinances I will not put on the agenda till uh the first week of March so that will give us six weeks to have conversations that skips to Council meetings so we can advertise it for them and I think this was good to get some of the issues from the businesses on the table I'm certainly willing for staff to have additional discussions and talk about if there's a better way to have a distribution of how we pay for all the Manpower and woman power that we have in our downtown but there's no question that putting more police officers in our downtown has made the downtown safer and then it comes question of fairness and who should be paying for that additional Manpower that's downtown also I don't think you disagree that it would be great not to have guns in people's Club so being able to check that and then if everybody's telling me they're complying with occupancy that's an easy box to check so really comes back around I think oh and by the way we're helping you eighty percent of the cost of any of this security equipment if you'll make application we're going to help you pay for any of that up to twenty thousand dollars so I would take advantage of that so I don't actually think we're that far off we just need to work on a couple issues but I would like to pass it out today take six weeks and we'll do both of them um six weeks from now so let's start out Madam clerk let's read the moratorium ordinance first we'll have a discussion on that ordinance number 2022-78 an ordinance of the city council the city of Orlando Florida relating to nightclubs in the downtown Orlando community redevelopment area imposing a temporary moratorium for six months on the acceptance processing and consideration of applications for development orders development permits building permits and Zoning approvals for nightclubs in the downtown Orlando community redevelopment area adopting findings of fact providing for possible extension or early termination of the temporary moratorium providing legislative findings and for correction of scrivener's error severability and effective day motion by commissioner she and second by commissioner do you want discussion on the moratorium part or are we on the yeah let's wait till the second one commissioner okay we had a great discussion today and we have seen a lot of faces that we had not seen in the past and this is important because we need each and every one of you involved you guys are stakeholders our downtown is your downtown if our reputation is your reputation if we don't get involved and we don't fix this problem we're not going to get anywhere everybody's going to be affected your business and our city so what I'm asking here is uh I'm glad that we have a space between these coordinates for us to sit down and talk but we need to compromise you guys need to get involved not once not twice not once a year all the time we need to talk to each other all the time because we need to know what's going on downtown this is your downtown on your business get to make sure that you know those people that drink too much you hold them before they go all right this kind of things things that you can handle so we don't have to get to this point we are spending way too much money the city and you guys there's no need for that if we do our job that's what I'm asking you guys to do we could have fixed this long time ago but we had let it go way too long we need to get involved and that's all I'm asking and hopefully before the next time we we see each other we'll we'll have a solution to this thank you commissioner Hill are you on the moratorium or the other measure okay let's leave it on the moratorium then further discussion hearing done all in favor of the motion so by saying aye aye as opposed motion carries okay read the second ordinance medical clerk ordinance number 2023-8 an ordinance of the city council of the of the city of Orlando Florida amending chapter 5 Orlando city code by amending section 5.06 powers of the code enforcement board amending chapter 33 Orlando city code alcoholic beverages by amending section 33.03 hours of service Salem consumption providing for severability codification correction scrivener's error and an effective date Mr Stewart all right now Mr Gray thank you mayor very much and I want to thank everybody for coming to share your comments whether the podium emails direct meetings but I want to uh and I typically don't read from written statements but I want to do it so it's on the record and it's on the video so everybody can read it you guys have offered some pretty tough comments today and I'm going to give you some right back and my position in this so you know is a gentleman that's office downtown for 35 years I've officed in five separate Office Buildings so I think I have somewhat of the pulse of downtown certainly during the day not as much at night and also an individual that's been involved in a company that has owned properties downtown in Charlotte Atlanta Greenville Miami and Tampa so I've got a little bit of perspective and that's what I come at you with this so here's my comments two pages I'll be quick as we continue to look at ways to transform downtown I think it's important to keep in mind the ultimate goal a downtown with a variety of uses that appeal to a wide audience not just for night time but daytime as well this includes a variety of food choices from deli's to fine dining shopping for basic dry goods to Specialty retailers residential Towers hotels new Office Buildings green spaces and yes bars uh all in a safe environment that everyone can enjoy and patronize and we've recently hired a consulting firm to help us design such a downtown but if that's the goal what do we have today today we have an extraordinarily High concentration of bars with the majority of the operators ignoring the rules such we now have an environment so unsafe that police fire and Code Enforcement Officers aren't willing to work double overtime pay and additional perks don't entice them so they have to be ordered to work downtown details why it's simple they know it's unsafe and they don't want to be an unsafe environment um I continue to hear lines like give us time to work on a solution with you and this is too expensive we're going to go out of business my response is simply where have you been for the last several years if you didn't see this environment deteriorating see the shootings and continual fights it didn't expect changes I suggest you're either tone deaf or in denial this Council has begged this industry for Solutions but we've received nothing that other than excuses why proposed ordinances won't work there's no United voice which tells me that you have more Rogue operators than legitimate business owners if it was a small group of violators the majority would have pointed them out we could have dealt with them and we wouldn't be here right now that notwithstanding it's my view that we have our Focus reversed I suggest the daytime and evening early evening economy should be our focus in driving policies for downtown we have invested millions of dollars in the arena the Performing Arts Center the creative Village and the Lake Eola neighborhood and nighttime activities do very little if anything to enhance these Investments I suggest the daytime and early evening economy should be our focus a vibrant downtown with great options for office workers and the venue patrons should be the focus why because filling up the office building in the daytime and creating a safe walkable downtown in the evening is what's going to create economic growth employers listen to their employees and there isn't much attractive about being downtown for businesses we need to attract high-paying jobs to downtown to supplement the venues and create a village and having story after Story Of Violence downtown discourages many companies from looking at officing downtown data point after 10 years of a strong economy we've built one new office building in Downtown Orlando and that's the truest Bank Plaza right next door why there's little that employees get from working downtown other than long commutes and paying for parking I appreciate the compassion for those bar owners that may go out of business and I would say you're right many bar owners will go out of business the ones that don't know how to operate a successful business why because they've invested in a business model that isn't sustainable that's serving too much alcohol that attracts unruly crowds and then expecting the taxpayers to cover the cost is not a sustainable business model statistics tell us the biggest challenges after midnight we heard that today no surprise another data point and it was pointed out here 1400 violent crimes after midnight in the last two years do the math on average that's two violent crimes every day 365 days a year for two years that's not acceptable we can't deal with that um so and those are just the incidents we know about so I wholeheartedly support these ordinances to stop the continued growth of bars and require existing Proprietors to ensure that their patrons identify themselves prove they don't have weapons and provide adequate security if that is too onerous and expect an expensive so be it close close down at midnight otherwise compete and run a good operation and I say this I've said it before if you're a good operator the weak competitors will fall out and there's absolutely a place for you downtown but there's not room for a hundred bars and so you know my big concern with these ordinances I've said it before is the Staffing of Code Enforcement if you don't if you don't um uniformly enforce these rules people take advantage staff has promised me that we're going to get the the resources we need so we'll keep an eye on that but we need to keep in my opinion we need to keep raising the bar and focus on approving both daytime and nighttime options and I think we all will benefit from that so uh thank you for listening to my comments on that thank you mayor thank you commissioner Grant uh commissioner Hill and commissioner Sheehan meet it thank you mayor Dyer and thank you all for coming out and speaking to us thank staff for doing the best that they can because I think there's a Common Thread where all of us and I mean the city our residents our operators our vendors whether they're in nightclub restaurants or offices uh want a viable uh livable because it is a community where we have residents a livable uh work and play situation and safety is utmost important I think all of us can agree on on that I am in supporters uh ordinance mayor but what I can't support and where I am at with this is I'm somewhat uh let me let me backtrack I do want to say that there is a unified voice Among The Operators downtown I want to dispel that it's called the hospitality Alliance and it's ran by the same CRA nighttime director that we hired so that with their incapable hands and I think it was um oh God oh eight forgive me um help me out with any Dominique what about Dominique someone that we contracted to even assist us and guide us when we start thinking about how to create a more viable downtown nightlife as our downtown manager just want to say that but where I'm having a problem uh with the ordinance I do support as I stated and we voted on the moratorium is the SOP that is the Crux of the cost because I I in my briefing which I was only briefed on Thursday and I don't have enough time to really Digest everything in the ordinance um rather it's the Matrix how is the the funding going to be allocated what happened with the overage because now I'm hearing as was stated not saying that it's accurate because I haven't been brief from what the operators have presented about it's going to cost them millions and millions of dollars between operators only for almost three million that we're seeing it's going to cost us um through the off-duty support you know I I'm hearing even what what will happen I know even throughout the city we're short staffed rather from OPD rather's Waste Management throughout the city and even in your establishments I think you would say um dear Scott operate Orlando jobs it's hard to get people to work post covet and thank God that some of you all survive post covert um but even trying to get a new Squad of OPD officers that entail our detail all of downtown Orlando that'll be a heavy lift right now I would love to see something that's just focused on our downtown core but asking the chief to immediately put something like that together is a I think a a heavy lift right now so in the interim of that we do have to create another type of force that I think all of us need to contribute to the city as well as our operators but at what cost of putting people out of business of impacting employees to where where we're talking about helping offset affordable housing and the homelessness now creating a new class of homelessness by layoffs so those are the things that I'm considering those are the things I need staff to really consider with this Matrix because when I asked about it they said you know nobody really know how the Matrix came about and if it's true numbers we'll work through it by second read but when I sit here and I vote I gotta vote my conscience with real factual information because it really impact the everyday lives of our citizens and our operators and business owners small and large no matter I agree with commissioner Sheehan and I also agree with uh commissioner gray for those Bad actors they need to be penalized for those that are creating an atmosphere and a culture of gloom and despair and havoc and death uh and people oding we have to do something with that and I think our law enforcement and Chief and his men and women are doing a tremendous job and that's why when he was able to present before and now because of the surge how crime has gone down that mean it's working so we need to do more of the same but it isn't sustainable uh through paying for with the CRA so yes we do need uh community and stakeholders from downtown um a contribution but our chief and uh Dave and Brooke I really and I'm gonna uh I really wanted to table this because I think there does need to be more dialogue but with mayor stating he's gonna put this six weeks out now so there can be true true dialogue and conversation on getting to a more I would say collaborative because they're partners of all of ours business owners downtown are partners just like I have other partners throughout my district and that's what I think this city Pride themselves on is collaboration we talk about it all the time so in order to have collaboration you have to meet and speak with others and consider what they're saying and implement it that's how the Partnerships work it doesn't work from one way it doesn't work from staff free for me and me needing to support staff in two days I don't like being put in that position without having all the factual information it does not collaboration and Partnerships isn't where we present something to our community stakeholders in three to four days later we're asking them to support it without them even speaking with their attorneys all right speaking with their accountants speaking with you know uh their marketers and how are we going to fit all of this into a new business plan because a new business plan has to be put in place when uh uh uh some type of motion like this is made so uh uh I look forward to staff uh working with the stakeholders expeditiously uh I look forward to staff working with Commissioners because we have input also uh we work for the people and we need to be able to have our fingerprints and input on how to move forward if you're asking for our votes right not just digesting what we've been told I do want to be able because I have a a true problem and I'm not saying it's factual but I don't think people will come up to the Deus professionals and say that they've been told by by staff we have undesirables you know for me as a black female I feel some kind of way because when I go downtown I see yes I do see a change of downtown and it's it's it's young folk majority in the evening in black and black and and brown people meaning Latino and African-American our Caribbean American or what have you so is is those the undesirables we speak of I know we're talking about crime but when I look at the faces of the change of downtown it's kind of what I see so I I'm feeling kind of weird right now about that tone and uh we have been working on this for a while and we have been talking about incentive packages to bring restaurants and family type of businesses in the downtown core but I keep seeing more ordinances regarding I won't say penalizing but stipulation after stipulation on nightclubs but nothing have came forth in the last year and a half since the shooting or even prior to about how we're going to incentivize and what's the plan on bringing these new operators that we all would want I love sitting down and having a dinner after coming from doctor or even before going to event at Amway so what are we I would say dto and cra bringing forth after some folks and I agree are going to have to go out of business and I hate that but it's gonna happen so what are we going to replace that I do not want to go back to the days of our sleeping downtown first of all it might be a little selfish because there is a cra that is really one of the uh largest cras in the State of Florida and the nation that has created a Dr Phillips that has created and incentivize a a creative Village that has created and and help Revitalize the new growth of Paramore so those things we have to also consider when we're talking about bringing new folks and just shutting down our downtown so I I just want to be sensitive thoughtful to law enforcement and what type of impact we're causing on our men and women when they come downtown they do have families also and they want to get back home safe and even at a hundred dollars is not worth their lives right a hour it's not worth it it's not worth their mental health and them being able to still be a productive citizen when they get home to their wives and daughters and husbands and mothers and fathers so I do want that equilibrium I want the all of us to be responsible and considerate to each other I do need the dialogue to continue to take place uh but all due respect I I do think six weeks versus coming to next Council out in March is a reasonable request for mayor Dyer to go ahead and pass this first read so that we can at least continue the dialogue I will be holding staff in that time frame to give me a briefing towards the middle of February on where we're at with the stakeholders at spec at least two or three meetings not just done at a community dto meeting David and said you can come up to me to talk I find that not really the Crux of what we're trying to get to because those are just everyday citizens and business owners walking up and say hey can I meet you right here and talk for three minutes this is too important just for a walk-up meeting this needs to be a meeting that's held with the stakeholders of our downtown nightlife and and restaurants um and it needs to be true dialogue not saying this is what we want to do but coming back and especially with that sop I think that is because I think they agree to all of the other situations to a degree in doing most of it but that sop and the buy-in that they have to pay I think is going to be transformational so with that mayor I'm going to uh I had earlier asked could we table this but I am going to support us moving it forward for first read with the expectations that I laid out sir okay thank you commissioner commissioner Sheehan uh thank you mayor and I'm going to vote on it today with hopes that we can address some of these issues but I would also like to give some of my own observations and and being downtown over many many years and the officers hate to work downtown I agree with commissioner gray we have to pay him 90 bucks an hour because they're getting spat on they're getting all they're getting getting all kinds of you know poor treatment by people who are predominantly really intoxicated and they don't always act the best when they're intoxicated so that's why it costs so much to pay them so I don't know if we could maybe not over serve quite as many people I don't know what the answer is but we have to pay off duty because the officers don't want to work it if they're going to get treated the way that they've been treated we understand that some of the businesses don't create the problems and some of the business do so we need to know who the Bad actors are and if you don't want us to penalize everyone you're going to have to help us out with some self-policing you know come up with some own standards some own self and self-imposed policies that will help address some of these issues we can't pretend it doesn't exist it does exist I used to work on a night shift and I came downtown afterwards so not everybody who comes downtown to bad person after midnight I mean I used to come downtown after midnight when I was younger not as much anymore we do need the nighttime economy it is part of of a thriving downtown but it needs to be safe and you are alienating some of your patrons with some of this Behavior so I think it's I think it's good business to to welcome everyone and not just the crazy party kids you know we call it beer I you know I've joked and said it's beer and barf downtown we need to have something a little bit more than that okay um not like commissioner gray I'm a businessman but I'm not as big shot as commissioner gray I I run a small art business and I do a lot of events at city arts I'm actually considering pulling out because I don't feel safe walking back to my car here and I don't like to go you know it's only like four blocks I love to walk and I'm not out at 2 A.M I don't feel safe coming from city arts which was a wonderfully generous donation from Ford keaney my good friend and a wonderful facility I don't feel comfortable walking back from that facility in my car when I go to events there at night I'm a City Commissioner that's unacceptable we all need to be part of helping out with that because if I'm a small business owner an artist and I don't feel comfortable coming downtown that's a big deal you need to hear from the people who I have concerns like commissioner gray and I um my friends are actually changing their Dr Phillips tickets to matinees because they don't want to come down in town at night that's a problem so not only they're not coming to your establishments they're also not coming to those restaurants downtown I agree that we need to work on what's happening outside I agree with that 100 percent what's happening on the sidewalks what's happening to the people who aren't going to the bars but we need your help and we cannot pretend there is not a problem if we are spending forty thousand dollars a weekend on extra patrols we cannot pretend there's not a problem Mr Reynolds is right the residents in my district are complaining and they need to be heard as well so you know what it needs to be a partnership we can't stick our head in the sand and pretend there's not a problem so let's work together to come to some solutions together okay and that's all I have to say thank you very much thank you commissioner commissioner Burns all right thank you Matt uh just wanted to say a couple of things uh first I'd like to say thank you to the Chief and David and staff for for pulling this together as well as the uh operators and business owners for expressing yourself uh this afternoon we do have a problem you know we do have to make sure that our downtown and our general city of Orlando remain safe so there's something that there's things that we do need to to look at so I do appreciate mayor your offer to push this second read back a little bit so there can be more time for uh for discussion because I do think we have an opportunity to uh come to some agreement you know when I look at the uh the ordinance uh my main concern I'm all for the metal detectors and the counters and the monitors my concern was with the uh additional policing staff and that being the burden of the of the business owners I do think at some point I know not within this next six weeks but I do mayor I think it may be time for us to start looking at what does a dedicated unit for the night time economy look like is that even feasible and something that would bring some additional attention resources and maybe some expertise to the individuals who are who are downtown I I continue to hear about this rhi study I personally have not seen the study um but it's not my understand that we commissioned this study a few years ago and uh as I understand it's just sitting on the shelf I think we need to pull that study out look at it see what uh were some of the recommendations see if those recommendations are still um appropriate for the time that we find ourselves in now uh but I I'm going to vote to move this ordinance forward but again Within These next six weeks I think that the dialogue needs to happen the discussion needs to happen because I have to be honest uh when I received this my briefing on Thursday um it was it was somewhat overwhelming uh because one um there's a lot of details that were not clear there's a lot of unknowns uh and so when I'm when I'm voting on something I want to be clear that I have a reasonable understanding of uh the consequences the intended as well as the unintended consequences so I would just uh ask staff to I guess work with me I'm not sure how the other Commissioners feel but work with us a little more to provide more details I appreciate some of the details David that you shared uh today uh but again I think it we just need to be more more clear uh because it's all of our downtown uh District Six doesn't Encompass downtown but I come downtown members of my uh my uh District they come downtown and there are some concerns uh but again we I believe there are concerns that we can address if we come together talk um and just work together so thank you again mayor for pushing this back a couple of weeks thank you commissioner commissioner Stewart thank you mayor let me try to bring us in for a landing if you don't mind um I have the honor of having started to work downtown in 1965. uh so I'm a little bit ahead of some of y'all I've been in downtown bethesis don't say that Tony I was born in that year but I've seen downtown go through an incredible amount of changes in the last um 60 years and a lot of that has been done because of what the city has done to try to make downtown a viable downtown I think we're on that cusp again and I think we can get there and I uh but I will tell you I I won't want to repeat everybody because we it's going to be a long night as it turns out um but uh Jim was on the right path I believe because one of the things that I will tell you is that um with the exception of one person um no one has spoken up and said here's what I think we should do your answer has been let's just stop it and we've been kind of just stopping it for years and I will tell you I can't speak for this this but I can speak for me I'm kind of tired of it I'm kind of tired of hearing business is not coming downtown I'm kind of tired of us having not have restaurants because we don't feel safe I'm kind of tired of hearing all those other issues there's a lot of issues we have to address this is one of them we need good strong Partnerships and good strong understanding to move forward on it mayor I appreciate you moving it back a little bit I'd like to be aggressive on it to make sure that we're getting some solutions moving forward um but I think the idea is that if you want to be cooperative and you want to help then here's the crazy idea come up with some ideas if you don't come up with ideas then we're going to make we're going to make it just all we've got on the data that we have so help us out it's okay it's okay um but at the same time uh understand that um we're not all going to get what we want and that's what's going to make good legislation okay so all right thank you with that mayor I'd like to move the question if we can make sure well do you have one last thing yes I I do have one last thing mayor is the fact that I even Christmas holidays came to a function at a downtown nightclub and it lasted to after 10. I've came downtown for brunches I've been downtown after hours at night and I felt safe not saying we don't have things going on downtown but I don't want to act and perpetrate as if our downtown is the okay Corral and it is a Dodge City there are great establishments downtown I have gone maybe because I grew up in Paramount and these kids grow up over in College Park I don't know I know I'm just kidding but I have came downtown I appreciate those those vendors and operators that do business very well and make you feel safe when you come your into your your establishments is there more work to be done yes but I don't want us walking away saying that our downtown isn't somewhere that people can come and stay away thank you mayor okay and just Commissioners uh Shin I like to go to the matinees too not out of safety reasons so okay any further discussion maybe because you're getting old mayor yeah that's it night any further discussion hearing done all in favor of the motion indicate so by saying aye aye those opposed to the motion carries Adam clerk we don't have any other General appearances right okay then we will stand adjourned [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] thank you as part of the American City's climate challenge we partnered with OUC and the science center to bring the Orlando tiny Greenhouse today visitors have an opportunity to engage in a lot of cool interactive features that will be guiding them on how to save money and reduce their environmental impact even though this technology has evolved not everybody can afford EB or solar right now so there's a lot of other great highlights of low cost and no cost opportunities to save residents money that you'll learn about when you visit the home and the greenhouse is on Wheels so we're going to be able to take around the community and have people enjoy it and learn from it in various different areas of our community foreign [Music] trailing thoughts from bumpy path [Music] this is such a friendly neighborhood because people have been aggressively waving at me a lot today what is that sound I keep hearing behind me oh I'm dragging a child's kite how long have I been dragging that for and why didn't any of these nice people tell me [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] and you get used to it after a while for the past four weeks we have been teaching the kids about telling their own story you know they listen to music all the time and they don't recognize that a lot of these artists and stuff like that are they're really just telling their own story through lyrical pieces our goal each and every day is to get every single young king to tap into his ability and his his voice to constantly allow them to you know feel more comfortable even in those spaces that might not be as safe but to be brave and to speak up for those things that they know they need to vocalize so I really want them to find their internal value find things that they're passionate about through this program and that's what MBK is all about is we come together and we're trying to just help coach them along through their processes to make sure that Partnerships like this and others that they'll be safe enough to be able to say oh I can do something that I've never done before [Music] what do you know about dog walker watch I think it's a great program where dog walkers like me who are out and about in their neighborhood every day they're the eyes and ears of the neighborhood providing extra set of eyes to the police if you see something say something it absolutely makes a difference because it will weed out the crime because they know that we're saying hello and greeting and we've made eye contact and that I see you uh it's easy you know you're gonna walk your dog anyway you're going to say hello to your neighbors anyway you're going to be walking through on a daily basis so it's just important to contribute back to your community [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you [Music] [Music] foreign