kind of a light crowd so the time of here I think how are you cace good I tired yeah me too that is a water ready for vacation to start going back and forth to and from Seattle and and it's kind of getting to me yeah not so bad to be going back in great okay 930 or 4:30 9:30 the order okay wow hi everybody Welcome calling the um Equity Committee of the assembly to order and Pastor May is like a couple minutes away so he'll be here in just a second um why don't we start with introductions um I'm Thea U one of the co-chairs Candace I'm Candace and I'm representing Alaska rainbow Elders um known as R who are um and I'll pass on to you hi everyone Jo R st here we Alis and um the state ofk you and do we have committee members online fix you want to introduce yourself Felix oh sure uh Felix AA anage assembly thanks and Lori sorry oh can you hear me okay yep all right sorry my it flashed off I apologize hi Lori picket with Alaska literacy program and I'm not seeing anything but a black screen is there any issue on your end we can see our little self oh there I see it now okay thank you okay um Heather you want to introduce yourself sure hi this is Heather Ireland with Anchorage School based Health Centers I don't know why something's going on with my camera but um yeah um so so yeah just end of the semester yay we got through it Yay good job littleb back and then Jasmine Jasmine Acres Deputy Clerk and staff to the committee and then we have a guest who yourself hi I'm Nora Mattel um I'm Nora Mattel I'm a member of the implementation team for the child care of the marijuana oh great awesome so you're presenting a little bit great thanks for being here anyone else online no y um P we're just doing introductions do you want to introduce yourself I can sort of hear you I'm still having technical issues hold the on we can hear you just fine okay wel come back to you um great so do you want to start with our land and labor acknowledgement okay we acknowledged that the land that now makes up the United States of America was a traditional home hunting ground trade exchange point and migration route of more than 574 American Indian and Al native federally recognized tribes and many more tribal Nations that are not federally recognized or not longer exist we recognize the cruel Legacy of slavery and colonialism in our nation and acknowledge the people whose labor was exploited for generations to help establish the economy of the United States we honor indigenous enslave and immigrants people's resilience labor and St ship of the land and commit to creating a future founded on respect Justice and inclusion for all people as we work to heal the deepest generational wounds thank you John great you can come set up this well yeah and we just finished introduction so you want me just you can anywhere you want it's fine you want to just you have it after you've gotten settled we can let you introduce yourself great okay so our agenda for tonight we have a couple items under unfinished business the first one is the legal analysis that we um were offered through AARP from change lab so the update on this is that originally we thought it was going to happen this calendar year not possible just couldn't get um the information from the mun quickly enough um also we didn't have a clear definition of the scope partly because we didn't get the information for them to look at and review um so Teresa's now um shared that it can happen in the next year and she sent us a video that we can um show to the committee to kind of introduce the project and neither Pastor May nor I have reviewed it yet so I I think we'll just do that at our next meeting and go from there does anyone have any oh I see laor do you have a question yes I'm sorry i' would like to touch Bas um is it my turn to take notes and minutes for the meeting fantastic I forgot about that and it would be wonderful if you want to take notes unless else was already doing it but I think you're right since you were in here last time we said yeah l did I said okay okay good and and I joined late and had trouble with my audio so I missed who was um online in person maybe if um if Jasmine's able to just put in the chat who all is there in person so I can get it into the minutes I'd appreciate that that's perfect thank you great and then also Taylor do you want to introduce yourself hi everyone my name is Taylor Donovan um a Community member and I work for Rural cap Alaska great I'm glad you're here okay um so our next item under unfinished business I think we were going to move a little bit later um unless there's any objection just so we can that's going to be kind of our main discussion um and I don't see City committee [Music] meeting hi Marie hello there you want to introduce yourself I'm sorry um you could just introduce yourself briefly oh yes hi Mar husa and I am a Filipino American but not representing the whole Filipino community of anguage but would like to help spread the work of this committee to as much as I can to our community thanks great thanks for being here um Jasmine do you think you could send a message to Alexis and just see if she's join us okay great so we'll move that item on our agenda a little bit later um and so why don't we go through why don't we actually if there's no objection can we just skip to our um item 4D because we do have Trevor and Nora here in person any objection to that okay hearing none do you want to go ahead and wait nor introduce yourself do you want to introduce yourself and then we'll just give you the floor sounds great uh good afternoon everybody tror stores I'm with the Alaska children's trust nice to see you all and thank you for this opportunity uh some of you may know back in April on the ballot there was the um idea of putting all the tax revenue from marijuana here in Anchorage towards childcare and early childhood development exciting that it passed and so forth there is now a team put together nor and I are part of that we call it the implementation team nothing too fancy for a name but we have assembled uh individuals from the community providers parents as well as Head Start uh as well as from the assembly School Board as well as people that work directly in the field of uh early childhood development and child care to start figuring out how do we use these dollars uh it is not a drop in the bucket but it doesn't fill up the bucket as we would say it's a very nice Port it's about $5 million and we want to strategize of how put uh how best to use those dollars but at the same time we also are reaching out to the community uh in noral speak to that here in a moment but uh really are looking at being a very transparent group uh we see that these dollars were decided by the anage residents citizens and we really want them to be involved in the process and understanding what is happening so one of those steps is doing community conversations with parents as child providers and that's why we are here for you all tonight uh with a specific ask and uh from your perspective and with that I'll turn it over toor so basically um we're trying to guess get feedback from community members about um what would be what they feel like would be good uses of the funds and you know it's pretty easy to ask providers what they think it's fairly easy to ask families whose children are already in care um but I think it's really important that we don't miss out on people who um for example have children that would be in care if there was more availability and accessibility of care and also families who may have language barriers or just other reasons they may not be able to come to you know meetings or Zoom meetings or fill out surveys and um so we'd like some ideas from you you know I know you guys did a lot of Outreach during Co and just that's the goal of your committee so is the ask um to to help do Outreach or you interested in that input tonight well a little bit of both so uh it was suggested to us you all were very instrumental in reaching uh communities the non-traditional community members which I also don't like because what's traditional but uh you get the idea of how do we reach uh a wide perspective to make sure that when we are gathering information is coming from a reflection of truly what makes up Anchorage and not just a singular group or more importantly as was saying the group that would normally be reached or even has the time and availability even or even awareness that this is going on so because you all did a great job with Co and really helping the city uh Administration really reach out into the communities uh it was suggested that we come and talk to you and ask you one if we got you information uh many people here are part of communities that might be able to help distribute information of when these uh listening sessions are happening and or if you have recommendations of who we should be connecting to there are people out in our community that kind of hold the that as I say I'm old school the list serve the email list that they may have a Facebook group anything that you could recommend of the best way we can ensure that we are reaching all corners of our community and making all people aware anything you want to add on so that's our ask great so just to summarize and also because people have joined since um tror started talking so they're representing a group that is um tasked with helping implement the childcare and Early Education fund and how that fund those funds will be shared in Anchorage um this is coming from tax money collected on marijuana sales I think Tor said it's about 5 million a year um so I think the ask of the committee is both in terms of helping them connect with community members who might want to participate in surveys and listening sessions but also potentially to give some input right now so opening up to Committee Member questions and discussion and and actually before we do that Pastor may do you want to introduce yourself and then I am Pastor mate Le M and I uh serve as president of the denomination Ministry of allance language andity and Foundation of last will and one of the committee's co-chairs well and then um also Celeste do you want to just introduce yourself hi Trev it's C long time no talk to anyway um nor it's good it's good to um have you both here and I'm looking um forward to seeing how we might be able to help get this information disseminated throughout the diverse Community groups thanks and P are you you able to hear now do you want to introduce yourself good afternoon my name is pan Lyn jusi I'm a Community member and I am a lifelong learner and here to help and support this committee and efforts going forward and I had um a question for the the two individuals that spoke if it's okay to ask go ahead um what I guess I'm trying to figure out are are what population um are you looking to Target and and is it parents of children that would be utilizing Services is it um is who exactly because as you may not know or may know that the Anchorage school district has three or four preschool programs but those parents may be individuals that would use the services so I'm just trying to figure out how you would like us to help you get the word out if that makes sense I mean I think that really I think it's mainly we're looking for mainly we're looking for families of kids um that would be needing child care or potentially families of kids that would take advantage of child care if there was more availability accessibility um or you know they just have a really or have or have or have in the past or might in the future um basically anybody who has a strong interest in this um I don't know if that really answers your question how just off just as noris said obviously it's current parents that have those children um age group also there are people that may not have kids that are using day child care but understand they could be actually business owners and have a perspective Andor their kids just stopped two years ago or even three years ago so it can be anybody but what we want to do is couple things is Target is one again that concept of the non-traditional um to we also recognize that there's a lot of providers that aren't licensed we have a very good list of all the licensed providers out there because they're licensed but there are individuals who are providing child care in homes that aren't licensed because they're not required we want to ensure that they're aware of so any way we can really blanket the community as a whole because I think there's a variety of people at different viewpoints that have ideas of how best to use it doesn't seem limited when you talk 5 million from an individual perspective but when we're looking at this very large need it's a small amount and how best to use those dollars that not only meet the existing need but most importantly also create sustainable systems because we're in crisis and crisis usually leads us to just dealing with the bleed but if someone's not taking care of it afterwards then we're back to the same spot so not only I always say trying to feed the line but how do we also in time really shorten it so we not find ourselves back in this similar crisis as a community so this is he um I feel like um one way to capture people it's it's like the people that are already in child care you know you have ways to to connect with them potentially but the ones that aren't and you know you think about like as an employer I'm trying to hire someone but they can't look for a job because they're they don't have child care and um so so what's the universal thing that all those people with young children have and it's diapers and it's almost like if you could get the grocery stores to have signs with like QR codes of a survey or something in multiple languages so that you could um get feedback from parents that way and then going back even further is that for people that use the hospital to deliver a baby getting the hospitals to um connect you with with those parents um you know again in multiple languages is um so that's that's just one idea always good to hear your voice hether thank you uh we'll see if we can get Fred Myers and CS to do something that's always an interesting challenge but I love the concept of where those individuals always seem to be and we do know diaper pantries so and we're already linking up with those so you're really tying in I never thought about where people buy them so see what we can do and then me thank you um I um so for our community which is the his community we have a lot of workers in restaurant businesses so that's a great way to go and maybe talk to the owners and maybe have flyers for the employees and also uh housekeeping in um hotels that's also a great uh way to advertise I guess and um another question is because you're talking about parents um and how best uh to use those dollars have you thought of actually pay moms to stay at home basically um pay maternity leave so um you're basically helping them to create a bond with the child while they can stay at home oh w I encourage you and anybody else who would support that to show because I think that's very important and yes so part of but it's a a political issue we have some challenges uh with that a lot of people what they do is they have child tax credits things of that nature we don't have a tax in our state and or in our city other than property tax so how do you implement it question mark but we we at the Children's trust because I thought oh one of the ways the line keeps getting longer is because we also created a society where all parents have to be at work uh to be able to maintain a household and how what would it look like if you create an environment that hey if a family member wants to stay at home how does that work and can we provide a subsidy could you take a Child Care Subsidy and rather than pay a child care provider to yourself I think uh more people that talk about that it could elevate it because as you can imagine in some circles we're paying people to have kids or that that rhetoric not saying that I support that but just being faced with that challenge so uh the more people that come out and speak to it I think would be very helpful and then talk about well what would that look like so yes and I appreciate that somebody else brought that up before I did some questions um quick question um you made me think but just uh folks there is and I forget the name of it the Hispanic paper uh the yeah is that still widely utilized yes okay we make sure that we get information into that okay so Pastor May and then Lori and then Pana yes I just want to put a guest question in the N sh is is this funding this program available to any parents or providers maybe that need assistance for providing daycare child care or pre early uh uh Early Education that kind of thing is is it open and then to piggyback on that is there a financial criteria as it relates to a ceiling for those who might be able to receive the funding so uh thank you for that question so that's what we're actually figuring out is so uh just to remind you the proposition passed in April of dedicating the dollars we're now at that stage of determining how do we use those dollars in having conversations so it could be do we provide uh extra stiens and uh increase the stiping level that people currently are getting from the state to make it more affordable do we create our own stiping program for those who are we always see in the gray area that make too much but they really don't and that availability kind of addresses that ceiling uh there's even thoughts about how do we use those dollars to uh potentially address some of the capital needs at facilities so there's a lot of things that are on the table um how do we also support the industry in grow uh is it providing subsidies to make sure that those who are working because that's one of the problems are actually earning a weight that is competitive U things of that nature so there's a lot on the table and we're looking for those feedback so what I'm hearing from you is if you showed up you may be advocating for whatever you do make sure you consider those ceilings and addressing those needs so that's all yet to be determined and we'll be developing that uh and then putting it back out to the public for feedback okay yeah thank you for that and for giv my Tess and uh the traffic developed me but uh uh I guess what I'm understanding now is that you guys are the process of putting the program together developing the implementation plan so our job is develop really the three to five year plan of how to use these funds we want to make sure that it's just we really appreciate the assembly helped get this P but pretty well everybody in the assembly would agree they're not experts in this and to ask them to then figure it out doesn't make sense uh so we have been working with them to create this implementation team to really do designed the three to five year plan that there will be what's called an oversight board uh and staff that are connected to it that they Implement that plan which then determines how best to use these dollars so not only that they get maximized but also we're looking at how could they be braided how can we use these funds to potentially get other funds how can we make that 5 million into 10 million that concept and get the the services that we need today well still are creating the sustainability for the Future Okay relative to the development team how large is that and uh and the oversight board how large would that be and who's in charge of putting those together you guys or assembly or sure uh so for the implementation team we work with the three primary uh well it would have been the two primary sponsor well one primary sponsor cuz um sorry Suzanne Le France stepped down so it was with Cameron and uh also connect with u one of the other lead supporters of it uh Kevin cross and then brought on Anna Bry onto it uh us meaning the people that were behind the ballot initiative uh myself Eric Croft and then Ivy spun holes uh you might have known her as representative at the time uh came together went all right we don't want just the assembly and we to figure out how to use these dollars so we put a plan together to create the implementation so on it is those six people plus we have three parents that's their sole role three uh providers of different type of providing big and small we have the school board uh we have a represent uh the chamber for business and we have the um Armed Forces am I missing anybody nor can you think of anybody it was pretty big but yet try isolate so our uh job will be to do two things one create that plan but also the second thing will be is to divide the ordinance that implements the uh oversight board uh the accountability board I believe is the technical name and we'll be outlining what that looks like and how many people that set to be determined we don't want 50 but you don't want two and developing that just so you know the funds don't start actually get collected until January 1 you won't see them until March uh you won't see January money until deposited until March so we won't actually see being able to use anything of substance until uh summer that time the implementation plan and a proposed budget will be presented uh oversight board will hopefully be seated but of course uh that's all happening when a new May is coming in so I say that all with understanding government and it can be a little slow but we're making sure that we move it along uh but it will all be implemented in in effect by this year uh the mayor will uh will put out uh requests for applications like they do for any board I'm assuming that's probably close to what they did for this uh the mayor makes the the selection of that board and those people then go before the assembly for confirmation that's the process um okay I just want to interject real quick because we have five questions online and we probably only have about seven minutes left popular very popular you should come back potentially at sure another meeting let me just say my reason fing about the implementation team and oversight board uh I guess in View and in light of who we are as a committee I was concerned about how diverse those groups would be yeah okay so um knowing that we have about seven minutes let's try and keep it speedy so we'll go Pana Lori Celeste Taylor and then Marie so go ahead P really quickly I just wanted to build off of what Heather Ireland said in terms of uh locating people to or end users to be on your committee is have you targeted or thought about targeting Wick the program Wick and its um particip ANS as real people at at the boots on the ground level to be part of this board or Committee just my thoughts thank you and just remind folks it's about getting people to participate in the community conversations we've already selected of the uh oversight uh the implementation team will definitely use these as a way of also Outreach for applications for parents to be on the actual uh accountability board but this is to make sure we're getting the word out so people either can take a online survey or participate in the face-to-face uh Gatherings as parents or providers I love the rck and we could work with the city and getting that out so I love that idea thank you great uh Lori yes thank you so much um I just I had a few ideas but I can say that um in building job Pathways within the um English language learning community there are lots in lots of barriers to getting an atome license and I um I think that would be a really good Focus to work on support through getting um licenses at home to be child care providers what we're hearing from our community is that it's critical that they are culturally competent for their um their culture they like the same language base they also really need to feel safe with where they're leaving their children and for people that have really clear guidelines on what foods they eat and why they eat and how to be treated respectfully when you are a covered woman and those um particular issues are really are really critical and important and um we do have our peer leader na you know our peer leader Navigators that are often um um engaged in community conversations to reach multiple communities um perspectives at any given time um and one of the things that's come out of the working to build the pathways is coming up with a way to have like mentorships for homes that are child care providers and so like those are just some of the things we're hearing but Trevor you can always reach out to me if you if you want to try to engage with us um closer through alasco literacy program and thank you for this work well thank you uh we've been hearing the same thing making sure that you your Navigators and anybody else either fill out the surveys and putting that information down and or getting people to attend again it's about getting this stuff documented that reinforces uh and helps people know what's going on and you're definitely on the distribution list so thank you Laur Celeste just being respectful of time I just um Trevor encourage you to be sure to reach out to the churches we know that there are lots of families within the churches that could utilize this information also places like red apple um would be great as well thanks Celeste who has the best list of the lists there for church there's okay I'm looking at the okay um I will make sure to get your email thank you but if anybody ask she has a list it's always the tough thing so thank you fabulous yeah there's a lot of I feel like many of the people that you need to be in touch with are in this room right now so it's great well and if we had information and we sent it to somebody here to share with all of you as well J jine we can't actually email each other because it's public records public that you can send anything to the committee through J um oh was it me I thought there was somebody else before me I think you're next Mar yep oh okay great well thank you and yeah Trevor and the other person I didn't get your name sorry thank you for coming and reaching out to us I do have a few ideas and I'd love to connect surveys I don't think that would work for Filipino communities maybe the younger generation it would but the non-traditional the usual way for a lot of Filipino families would be to leave their children to the nonworking grandparents but I think what's really needed there is education for the grandparents of healthful ways activities for kids because kids are just on their iPads and phones and TV and so kind of like what Lori said some sort of a mentorship or a group to educate this grandparents on you know activities they can be done that could be done with their grandkids and maybe it's something developed within the community so we can be in some traditional practices I think that will be great and I hope they're considered and also for outreach there's a few um Asian stores as well that I can uh help you with no need to translate it I don't think it works but the surveys I think you would have to come to the communities and again I could help you with that but I think that would be an be the more effective way to reach out to our community thanks thank you uh very much really appreciate that and we'll uh reach out I'll find out how to reach you Marie sounds good thanks I just uh I have one more the the increas Neighborhood Health Center has an Outreach and housing Navigators that uh see a lot of um low income uh communities it's really good idea okay and I see Taylor in the chat says popping my comments in the chat for time outreaching I'm sorry right now outreaching mid large employers for potential partnership I could see subsidizing licensed or unlicensed facilities at employers to support working parents and stretch the money added bonus of a recruitment incentive for the employer in a tough hiring Market I love all these ideas this is we need you to come to the sessions and share these but I will also be remembering these so thank you so it just sounds like if we send um information to Jasmine then she can chat to you guys and maybe you guys could share the contacts you've been suggesting with us um sounds like probably next good St yes as long as what you sent to Jasmine has your contact information so people can can get in touch with you that would be great yeah we'll put you in touch um and also if you want time on the agenda to actually like ask the questions and have the conversation just let us know we're booked for January already but we we could probably make time in February or March so how let knows like there's a lot of interest in the top so there is so uh perfect thank you really appreciate your time thank you so good to see you all yeah you're welcome to stay if you want thanks okay I'm going to just rip well what should we do should we have Alexis go now and then reserve room for other business this here yeah okay let's have Alexis go um now so this is our housing and homelessness discussion um and then we'll just Reserve like 15 minutes at the end for our um committee and assembly updates let me just ask right now are there any new member nominations great okay so we'll just reserve 15 minutes at the end and over to you Alexis thanks for being here thank you all for having me I appreciate the opportunity to present today um my name is Alexis Johnson I'm the housing and homeless coordinator with the Municipality of Anchorage uh I work out of the Anchorage health department and today I'll be providing an update on emergency cold weather shelter updates and answering any questions you guys have regarding um anything and all regarding housing and homelessness in the city uh next slide please um so today we'll go over our cold brother shelter congregate location The Aviator Hotel the Alex Hotel um I will have some updates regarding asp PC and uh to talk about our budget for 2024 um can you just remind everyone what ASPC is yeah it's our safety center in Patrol um and often those two things uh people like to talk about them hand in hand but I do just want to uh make a formality that um not all ASPC users are experiencing homelessness but we do have some members who are um clients of both um so just to start off CWS uh also known as the former SWS administration building or Administrative Building um we have renamed it because we do not like the connotation between um you know solid waste and our houseless neighbors so we have renamed it to CWS um and that essentially translates to cold weather shelter um we have currently have 200 clients in a congregate location um and during the month of November we had seven exits from that facility into housing and 50 people um have navigated through that facility and into our uh non- congregate locations uh just for the record congregate is essentially a lot of people in one large space and non- congregate which has been our Focus this year is uh two people two clients to a hotel room so they have their own private space it's more intimate uh they have a locking door uh there's higher success rates that data shows um people will thrive in those uh those types of locations and so uh just for the record we have had nine individuals permanently banned or trespassed um from emergency cold we shelter next slide please um also again we are using The Aviator Hotel this year as a non- congregate location The Aviator had offered up 274 non- congregate beds um we had some room damages this is a question we're asked often how much are are they destroying the rooms um honestly I was shocked that this number it's very low compared to Prior years um we attribute a lot of that success um question um we attribute a lot of that success to people who were ready to go into non congrate whereas in Prior years during the co pandemic people were rapidly placed into facilities some that they weren't suited for um this year with the weight list we had an opportunity um to place people who we felt were B who could succeed in a non- congregate location and so those room damages have substantially gone down and decreased uh from prior years um this ,000 worth of Damages was only caused by nine out of 274 clients um I would chalk that up to a success um during the month of October we had four exits to housing uh November we had six exits to housing in December as of December 8th um we had two exits to housing one of the questions we get asked is how many many people are not allowed um into non- congregate facilities um we use the word discharges those are not bans or trespasses and discharges can be a wide range of U violations um it could be because you know we've had people sneak pets into the room or we've had people not show back up to the room and so therefore they've been discharged from their room um we call that an abandoned room there's a whole host of reasons why people would be discharged but they not permanent banss um sometimes they're just time violations come back in a week you can go and anytime there is a discharge from uh a non- congregate facility we often will work with the client to make sure that they have an opportunity to go to CW so they're not going being kicked out to the streets um but they have an opportunity to go back through that system um this is really helpful because um it allows the clients almost an opportunity to get back to where they were we don't want to to uh create a system where people um you know one violation is you're out uh we really want to work with the client and really you know Aid in their success as best as we can next slide please uh the Alex hotel which is being used again this year um is 100 non- congregate beds um we have seen massive success at this facility I cannot begin to tell you how wonderful this facility is they have had zero overdoses very low problematic uh policies or procedures with people um I think they've only had less than 10 discharges um this has been such a wonderful quiet facility no neighborhood impacts um I I couldn't tell you the sole reason why it's been successful um it could be the operator it could be the clients that were placed there but this facility has been quiet very little problems their case management people are working to get into housing um and we'll talk about that for Next Step as well um but this has been a really successful location October 6 or October we had six exits to housing November we had seven exits to housing um I will tell you that um the mayor the Anchorage assembly hopefully I believe will support this uh the Coalition and homelessness and uh Henning Incorporated have all signed on to a program called Next Step initiative um which is a pilot program that models after Houston's housing um plan and it rapidly reh houses people from um in Houston's case a batement to housing um but in Next Step plans we plan to aate aate out of Alex hotel and into housing so it's intensive case management at this facility to get people into um the housing that fits their needs with Services um and so so far I believe we've housed 17 people out of the 150 that we have a goal for um but the Alex's that location and where that pilot program will take place is there a question online keep hearing well I had a quick question most of these people are they uh employed or unemployed um I couldn't give you the full overview right now there's 117 people in um our current shelter system that has some sort of income whether that's employment income or Social Security benefits or tribal affiliation um it's 170 people that have some source of income that could Aid in them being like housed or being able to self pay um I couldn't tell you whether that's employment or not next slide please uh so we'll talk about what's going well in shelter right now we have a lot of clients um that are getting the documentation that they need um in order to to be successful whether that's birth certificate IDs um they're filling out they need these types of uh documents to fill out housing applications or to get additional benefits um and we've been working really well uh with rural cap and Henning to make sure uh that the clients have access to those uh we had 30 exits to housing in 45 days and we had a number of clients that um decided that they did want to go to the job there and we're working with the Department of Labor to uh get employment for those clients uh Food Service initially uh we were having some trouble with the contractors that's been mentioned on record um but now we have seen seamless transition uh for compliance and this has been remedied all clients have access to three meals a day um and they're meeting the usca guidelines that are set forth in that appropriation next slide please um we'll take the good with the bad we do have some things that are not going super well um but we are working on them um we have seen an increased number of uh clients engaging in drug use um most of these are occurring at The Aviator and Then followed by CWS like I said the Alex is doing really well we um have not experienced overdose there um and we're working right now with some substance misuse providers to offer um services at The Aviator uh and CWS as well as offering uh substance Miss treatment beds for clients that are willing to go um we have had some discharges and the process for discharges is that there are 13 house rules that's what we call them 13 house rules and in order for you to be discharged you have to violate the same three violations um this will result in an auto discharge if you violate those same three uh infractions and that uh dis charges for 30 days out of shelter there are some immediate discharges any violence towards other clients or staff um getting caught smoking or drinking on site um or theft of someone else's belongings uh this has been an issue that I'll bring up with ASP um and it has since been remedied to some degree we're still working with the Department of Law um originally ASP was offering courtesy rides for people um that they were dispatched to that were not meeting title 47 um and what that means is title 47 is a danger to oneself um and how ASP determines that is basically a breathalizer or someone who's under the influence up to a certain degree if that person doesn't meet that need or that um that threshold they offer a ride to CWS what was happening is they were uh providing those rides in the middle of the night all our shelters do have curfews if you are not in by 10 p.m. you do not get access to the Shel shelter until the following morning um and so we had a number of clients that were left outside um the shelter wandering the neighborhood causing disturbances and such um we are working with law right now to figure out how to remedy that situation because we can't legally hold someone who is not meeting a title 47 um and so we're working on that but I did mention it in the mention it in the slide so uh next slide please this is our budget versus actuals for this year um this is something that I presented at the housing and homelessness committee meeting um we do have some additional funding that will lapse that was not spent on these contracts at the end of December um so that is good news that we will have additional funding lapsing into the alcohol tax so that we can further continue our efforts in 2024 next slide please so moving forward the budget for 2024 emergency cold weather shelter has not been fully funded um we have put forward these estimates for how to continue shelter operation through April of 24 um I did announce at the uh housing and homelessness committee meeting that we are possibly considering uh a request from the Anchorage assembly uh to continue cold weather shelter operations whether that be continuing for 200 clients at uh you know a walk up low barrier location um or something that uh has been brought to us from Houston as part of that next step initiative um a possible place where people can land um for a holding pattern essentially as they're awaiting their housing so how Houston uh does their abatement to housing is they will decommission a camp into a facility they call the navigation Center and what they will do is they will intensively case manage the clients that are in that facil facility to get them rapidly rehoused into um housing with services so rather than go to a camp and say hey you guys just can't be here with no other plan you would say hey we are decommissioning this Camp we're going to take you to a facility provide transportation and then we will provide ex intensive case management with wraparound services to get you into housing with Services um and people are more likely to leave that encampment knowing that their end goal is housing and that is our goal as as well um so we do have plans to bring forward a budget in early February to the housing and homelessness committee meeting to continue op your operations at CWS um most likely for that type of um facility as as it as it relates to camps what do you do about people who don't want to move to hous yeah um so with me Matt with Houston is a great question um when we met with Houston Houston said um when when you Abate to shelter shelter is not um appetizing for a lot of people they may have had previous bad experiences they don't like being in congregate settings they really like bode well with the fact that we're abating you into housing our goal is to get you into housing um so you will have some people who say no I don't want to be in housing whether that's because they just haven't built a trust with staff or Outreach um whether or not that's true or not it's always our goal to get them into housing that's how you know we can provide that safety net for them and that's our ultimate goal so sometimes it's going to take reoccurring Outreach to build that trust to say no we're we're serious we're going to get you everything that you need and secure so that you can be um successful in your life so I think there is opportunities for people to deny it and say this isn't for me I don't want to engage you in the program or in the case management um and that's going to happen they're you know free to not engage or not go to that facility um but I think there really is a lot of value in saying no our goal is housing we're going to work to get you there and we can assure you you know once you get to CWS and you're in this holding pattern we have 30 days to get you into a house a housing unit with Services um I hope that answered your question uh next slide so this is just an update on what is lapsing and ID ified funds for 2024 um we did uh have about $2 million from alcohol tax that lasts these are not uh dollars that were aligned with emergency cold weather shelter these are essentially monies that were put forward for um Early Education and prevention substance misuse or homelessness um outside of emergency cold weather shelter those providers couldn't um spend all their money and so that money lastes back into the fund balance um and currently our fun balance is an estimated $9 million so going into 2024 we have about $1 million in alcohol tax um to hopefully you know successfully move forward into our housing plans and our goals uh we do have some requests coming to the assembly um those requests are for summer campsite mitigation uh you may be familiar with uh this summer we had an encampment at third and ingr and um when we went into summer I don't think we realized what closing the Sol of an arena would look like for our city um and we had a lot of um neighboring impacts at third and ingra that um we were emergent in trying to get the funding to set them up this year we want to come correct Into Summer most likely uh in February we'll be putting forward a budget to say this is how much we need for bathrooms dumpsters security um you know hand washing stations um we really didn't have the funding until the last minute minute for this summer at third inning Road this summer we will be bringing forward a pro fora on how to keep encampments clean um and then next step initiative we do have plans to aate out of Alex into housing um and we want to carry that program forward for summer and really uh pilot an abatement to housing uh which is the plan that I described uh earlier I believe that's the last slide if anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer that I'm guessing there's probably a lot of questions um can I can I start with mine two of them so what I think I hear you saying is that we're okay this my question is are we going to have low barrier shelter available year round so that was the goal under Clean Slate um and I think that's still being worked I think that work is still being done and I believe I saw Felix and maybe he can provide an update um whether CWS can continues as a low barrier walk up shelter for 150 to 200 people or as this uh navigation Center Under The Next Step initiative that has yet to be decided um and I think that will that's work that will continue up until February um and Felix if you're on feel free to chime in um but I think that's still undecided whether it will be low barrier walkup shelter or something that aids in The Next Step initiative I just want to register that um it's it really troubles me that we've kind of just adapted to having these massive camps and thinking that that's okay like even if we're providing basic hygiene and I just it just that's not to me that is not part of the plan so anyway Felix you want to chime in sure um yeah I can just briefly say that um yes we are continuing the work of the clean State strategy and um that will uh early in the new year uh come to a policy decision point for the assembly which point to the assembly will decide if they want to move forward with uh putting uh the the dollars and the planning behind a low barer shelter or not so um you know we'll we'll see when we get to that decision point at at the assembly level um but otherwise um from my perspective I am certainly looking at a wide variety of strategies that we can Implement um to make sure that we don't I think as you stated um rely on large encampments as a defao strategy so um I think we're going to keep working it through the new year and um you know my goal has always been to have as much as possible in place by the time uh emergency cold weather shelter closes by April 30th great thanks [Music] J yeah um when you talk about housing uh who do you use for housing and what does that mean yeah thanks for the question um so right now we have uh units at the Barrett that we're looking at uh placing people in that work is happening right now the the full facility is not open yet but there is um uh a trickle in of people you know gaining tency at that location uh we did have a private landlord come forward as part of The Next Step initiative and offer additional housing units um but we're always looking for private landlords anyone with space um that's willing to offer their uh place as a rental um knowing that this is not just housing only this is housing with services and that the CLI clients will be getting the services that they need to be successful and independent housing can I do a follow up so will this be like transitional housing to go to a permanent housing or is it it can be a permanent housing nope it will be permanent housing oh y thank you and I don't want to couple permanent Supportive Housing which like psh housing um but housing that they could you know have a lease in and have utilities and it's uh it's not transitional just to take on to that I mean I think if there are folks on the committee who either themselves or who know others who are landlords who would want to participate they can disc connect with you Absolut yeah because I think there probably are a number of private landlords who might be interested in participating and they can contact me they can contact UM anyone at Henning incorporated or the inor coalition to end homelessness we all actively participants Lor and then F me thank you thank you so much um we are seeing that there just isn't enough housing and so as more and more money is being put into really actively housing people um people who are not receiving subsidies for housing who are who are taking care of the of themselves are seeing their rents increase and we're seeing lots of people especially within our immigrant Community losing their housing and not being able to make it on to any lists and and and I I want to know how we're going to actually increase the number of housing that is available and we are going to manage the strong increases in rent that we're seeing and as we create programs that are more appealing to land um landlords that go with those programs people are being displaced thank you what since do you want to speak to housing yeah um I wrote down actually Alexis if you're good I'll go ahead and address that I was just gonna uh defer to you fix so thank you okay great yeah um thanks thanks for that Lori so the assembly actually recently approved a housing action plan uh at our meeting this week and uh part of that plan it's looking at it from multiple standpoints looking at housing from mul standpoints of course one of the standpoints is what we can do to increase development um right now our our Market is not healthy and that is leading to an increase in prices across the Spectrum in terms of both purchasing homes uh and as well as renting um so we need to increase the stock to hopefully um help the market adjust right um so so that that's a big goal of the assembly and we've we've talked about and in the plan have have approved a wide variety of strategies that now we need to look at implementation and that's going to be a big part of the assem's work this next year um we've also in the plan talked about how we can help maintain affordability and help maintain retention of housing because we do know that more individuals are um becoming rent burden and that is leading to higher evictions and so um we have a variety of strategies in that category as well to make sure that we're addressing eviction protections whatever we can do to help folks out with um making sure that they can stay in their housing um you know it's something that it's unfortunately happening happening more and more often that we're hearing about rents going up and and folks having to make very difficult choices not knowing if they can stay in their housing so it's something the assembly is certainly a top priority to make sure we can do that um so I think you're probably here um well one I'll just encourage folks to take a look at the housing action plan if you haven't again we adopted it on Tuesday so uh it's on the agenda if you want to take a look at it it's like one of the 10 Bravo 10 B items on the agenda um and then I would encourage folks to to be a part of the process as we implement this uh as a community thanks and just a reminder that the housing action plan I think was sent out to the committee when I think when Anna came I feel like we've sent it out so Pastor M no I I was going to ask relative to uh the permanent housing that you was speaking about and those persons that are transitioned into that permanent house that you guys are providing uh and I understand and I thought I did that that comes with Services as well and services as in types yeah um through the next step initiative how it's funded in the program is that they will receive 200 hours per person per year of intensive case management um it varies you probably won't use all 200 hours for every individ ual that goes through this program some people use less some people use more um but that's what's funded as 200 hours a year of case management um and that could be a whole host of things whether it's you know light touch or intensive and uh one follow up and I'll be I'll let somebody else have time but uh you mentioned in your last slide summer abatement and uh was that a batement in reference to uh camp yeah so Houston Texas um has decreased their homeless population by 63% in the last calendar year um that's a whole host of reasons one of them being that they had additional funding because of the co pandemic um but what they do is they decommission an outdoor encampment into a navigation Center which is essentially a place for people to be in a holding pattern while they're rapidly uh case managed into housing and so our plan and moving forward After Next Step uh out of the Alex is to work on summer encampments um we're going to be bringing forward a budget or a pro fora uh for the assembly to help on that but to essentially Abate into housing um you know it's very enticing for someone whereas previous years we've said hey we're just abating you out of this area which really doesn't benefit anyone because they just you know populate somewhere else um this is a really great program because we're a them into housing with Services um it's not something that we've done before in the city and I think uh you know Houston is the model and they've done it successfully and it's something we want to um you know replicate yeah it sounds really well but the issue with a lot of that though is a lot of folk like being outside anyway during the summertime but it stands a reason uh to me that the more folk that you can get in the house and the summer would help part of the problem for the winter yeah and I will say um based on my experience from Centennial Campground and also um with CI currently um one of the reasons that we see people want to stay outside is that their Community is outside and so um yes some people do obtain housing or decline housing based on the fact that their friends are still living in an encampment um and so one thing that we want to do is when we shut down an encampment is encourage you know friends and you know their community to also be going into housing so that they could hang out together in their housing and not um you know outside together causing causing trouble so um that was one of the things that we saw at Cy this year is we had a lot of people who went into emergency cold weather shelter um and then went back to CI and started hanging out at cui but maintained their room at emergency cold weather shelter and we want to encourage people to hang out but inside you know because cold weather is not good for health and safety thank you were there other questions either in the room or online I have another one if no one else does um I wanted to ask about in one of your slides you mentioned so people being permanently trespassed or banned and then um later on you talked about the um safety patrol you know bringing people and when you talked about title 47 the you know there's the part that talks about being danger to sell for others but there's also the part about being intoxicated are incapacitated um and so they can take people who aren't necessarily dangered at self but who are um incapacitated to the Safety Center but in both of those instances to me what I kind of hear is people who have behaviors that aren't appropriate for the shelter or you know behavioral health issues and I so I'm curious what and this is also something Felix could speak too is um I was part of the complex being task force over the summer and I'm curious if there are any um considerations of that set of recommendations going forward because I think it's whenever we're talking about people who are unsheltered we there's a large proportion of people who have severe untreated vetal health issues and some sometimes that can be addressed through housing birs and getting people in services but there's going to be that small number like you're finding that isn't that's that's not enough right so um anything on that that set of recommendations yeah yeah so I'll first address um the nine uh permanent bands those are either um assault on staff or um trying to bring in a weapon assault with a weapon um sexual assaults any of a number of those uh they high degree of um problematic behavior that we just can't allow in any of the uh shelters um one question that were asked is were these uh clients baned from solivan Arena and does that ban continue to the next emergency cold weather shelter uh season the answer is no if you were banned at solivan Arena you got a second chance moving into uh this year's emergency cold weather shelter uh regarding ASB title 47 we have two instances that continued to occur one is title uh for ASP would be dispatched out to let's say someone sleeping in the middle of you know a sidewalk um ASP would come over engage with that client they would Rize that client and if the client did not meet the threshold for which ASP could take them they would offer a courtesy ride so it's someone that didn't meet the threshold of uh title 47 another instance that we have um that we were experiencing often is people who would Brack out so they're uh they would sober up at an asp facility um or at the Safety Center and we would no longer be legally allowed to detain them or hold them um and so they would be offered a ride to the shelter depending on the time of day The Shelter would be closed but they would not be um allowed to stay at the Safety Center or um allowed to continue to stay at the Safety Center because they were no longer title 47 um the issue that we're working with with laws is there a way to offer um them to stay in the facility until a certain C time frame um not forcing them to stay but asking them hey would you like to stay until 8: a.m. and then we can offer you a courtesy ride so since uh these issues have occurred we have stopped ASP transport cour courtesy transporting until we can sort out the details because we want to make sure that we're not violating any civil rights or constitutional rights by um taking not offering people the additional time frame in Safety Center so that's being worked right now through the angor child department and the Department of Law um complex Behavioral Health task force um I do know that incor health department at least for our recommendations is moving forward with um I believe we are H like looking at hiring someone that was part of the recommendation and all that work at least from the Anchorage Health Department is moving forward I can't speak to the other recommendations that did not pertain to incor Department quick question and I'll speak briefly to one of the other recommendations which was basically around building um shelter specifically for this community and that is something that the assembly is going to be deliberating uh in January we have a an appropriation and a partnership with RRS um restorative entry services that I think um will meet that some of that need uh basically looking at uh providing uh some type of transitional shelter for those 40 30 to 40 individuals who I think fit that kind of population that the behavioral health task force really wanted to serve so that's something that the assembly will be debating in January yeah my quick question was you alluded to early on and you discour what the a stood for and every time you say ASP my mind keeps going back to the old CSP service bet what was that eight so it's the Anchorage Safety Center and Patrol so we call it ASC as I believe it's had a whole host of names yeah glor go ahead yes I just wanted to say thank you very much for your for your presentation I'm really excited that people are looking into the model Houston is using because I've been hearing about that when I talk with others outside of Alaska that they're looking at that too so thank you for this really meaningful work thank you yeah it's awesome to see all the St IES that you're doing just since we have like a tiny bit more time I just want to follow up with one more question about the involuntary that you just mentioned so I guess I'm not following why it would be a violation of anyone's rights you may be brought in on an on a protective hold but then if you're offered you would stay here until 8:00 a.m. would you like to do that and the person consents I'm just not why why would there be any I mean in any setting where someone is um treated or admitted in an involuntary basis they can convert to voluntary so I just not I'm just not quite getting that part yeah so currently under our contract um the Safety Center is not considered a warming facility and so if someone doesn't braack into the Safety Center we can't offer that space to them um it violates the contract currently in place to say yes they can be here for warming if that makes sense because um I'm sorry what oh it just seems yeah like yeah so we didn't want the way the contract I believe is written and I don't oversee that contract so I can't give uh a whole host of details but essentially the Safety Center cannot be used as a warming facility and once a client is no longer um a title 47 they would be considered in a warming facility so we're working through the legalities and the contract compliance to make sure that Safety Center can legally offer uh a place for people to continue to stay um even after they have racked out because I believe contractually that only allowed to provide services to people who meet title 47 uh threshold and this this is my own commentary but that is a perfect example of how we basically make accessing care for people's behavioral health issues something you only do when you're forced to by the law I mean it that is a perfect example of that and there is a lot of work Statewide and in this community to really change that and to actually make it so people want to get care for these untreated health issues and so I just would love to hear more at a different time about that contract because that's a perfect example of how it gets Written In This Very literal way which of course makes sense but it doesn't actually meet the needs of the people that we're trying to serve so it may save them from dying at the point when they reach 08 on the breathalizer but it doesn't you know so it's like we need to think of the safety patrol and the Safety Center as part of this whole Continuum because in a way it could be a perfect place for people to be when they're not appropriate at the Shel the congregate shelter you know but we had to just think a little bit more you know not so you know rigidly about it yeah and this brings up a conversation starter that I've had um with a multitude of people and I I go back and forth and uh I'll just bring it up in conversation now um because it reminded me of it um we had that week of four people that died outside um during the blizzard and one in particular um I will tell you had been contacted by Outreach at least half a dozen times um and he had declin services and so at that point the question becomes well is he title 47 because it is cold outside we are asking him to come to shelter um we want to engage but he has declined at what point do you say this is a detriment to your health and you need to get in the vehicle or it's going to result in your death um and so the question becomes is there a mechanism legally for us to say Hey you know I understand you're declining services but we'd like you to get into the vehicle and we'd like to take you somewhere um you know who makes that determination is the Outreach provider the one who makes that determination that their title 47 because you know most of our Outreach workers are not clinicians they're you know just people who are passionate about the work that they do and um you know they each have their own individual skill set and so that's a question that came up um you know what makes title 47 ASP um or ASC Works title 47 based solely on uh alcohol bread uh blood alcohol content um and so I don't want to speak wholeheartedly on the SP contract because it's not something I oversee and I don't know the details um down down at the granular level but I will tell you that's a conversation that we engage in often is how do we um you know make sure that people who choose to stay outside are actually not a detriment to their own health because you know it's it was an opportunity for us to save that person I believe um had we had a mechanism to get them into a vehicle you mentioned contract the Safety Center is the idea is that turn quote unquote into a warming Center but uh maybe contractually something concerning human need and compassion that element might need to be written in because if somebody's cold and freezing or whatever and they're close or whatever and they're trying to get out of the weather uh that might be something to consider mhm and I think there is space or um an opportunity for us to discuss something like ASP but for people trying to get warm we talk about warming facilities but they are voluntary so how do you um differentiate between like hey it's time to go inside it's cold outside and you need to get into the vehicle because you're a danger to yourself and we'll take you to a facility there really is you know a unique balance of Human Rights and civil rights and people being adults and making their own decisions and you know really from our point of view Public Health Public Safety how do we ensure that this person is not going to perish in the middle of time and I'm basically thinking about people who want to get yeah I think that what you just said is exactly right Alexis I think we should continue this conversation especially as the crisis center um hopefully opens up Providence in August and you know the way a crisis is defined is basically I mean it's Behavioral Health crisis but you know it's defined by the person so I think that's another tricky thing is like you know we're trying to say oh you know this blood alcohol level then you're really in need you know you know you know what I'm saying so any anyway great conversation any final comments or questions for Alexis and I do want to thank you again for being here and hope we can invite you back again because it's it's a topic that a lot of folks on the committee are interested in any final comments or questions for Alexis Lady of many hats great okay well thanks so much um just a couple more orders of business so any Committee Member updates that people would like to share updates yes you want to speak to your I I will speak to mine uh relative to the uh annual uh Martin Luther King Jr commemoration celebration it's coming up on the 14th of January 3:00 p.m. at West s High Auditorium uh looking forward to a great time in in that regard and thank you Jasmine again for sending out uh all of the information relative to the uh uh support levels that you can obtain for your organization group if anybody wants to do that and uh certainly even there a couple choir rehe left belov community choir somebody sing yeah they want to join the choir feel free to do that we'd like to get as uh diverse as we can with that with that on that uh specific level and uh also I might add uh you know we might be interested to come out for the annual celebration for sure uh we're doing rather than having a singular keynote speaker this Year we're having uh Tri tripet triplet uh keynote speakers and as of right now uh two persons on our committee are speaking uh keyot wise and one of them is present today Miss Joan is going to be one of our keynote speakers and Lucy is going to Lucy Hansen is going to be one of our keynote speakers and we're working with Julie Ki the native uh Heritage group to get that third finalized and looking forward to some cultural expressions groups uh Luc is going to bring the group in and it's a possibility her daughter might do the national Anem force and uh well Joan is still working on that aspect of it let's see but the uh the native group is going to provide a group force and what have you and we'll have uh a group of persons we're dividing the uh I Have a Dream speech in the segments and we're going to do it in languages uh going going forward so we looking forward to a great time uh uh with that that's on the 14th of January 3:00 p.m. West High School and also one one flight that I did not get to Jasmine and that is this coming Sunday uh in denomination Ministry Alliance is having a community uh wide Christmas Eve fellowship at new hook Church in Mountain View and uh it'll be at 4 00 p.m. in the evening cite service and anybody who would like to come feel free awesome so 3 p.m. on the 14th 3 p.m. on the 14th okay great um what other announcements sorry I great go ahead K push my button there we go uh the Alaska rainbow Elders is inv are inviting any in your community um LGBT people elders who would like to socialize in a group um the Alaska rainbow Elders are now meeting at 10 o'clock on Thursday morning at the senior center um the majority of the time we just kind of hang out and have coffee and chat um but periodically we do have guest speakers so all are welcome at this event 10:00 Thursdays at the senior center do you have a FL f h do you have a flyer no I don't but I can probably come up with one be great so I could we can around friends family okay yeah great thanks great Candace you could send it to Jasmine and then everybody would get that would be great yeah awesome great other events or committee um announcements okay um Felix there's probably I don't even know if it's worth asking there's probably way too much for you to share with us are there any really hot topics you want to share in the next five minutes um let's see he went to sleep he didix doesn't sleep so um I guess I'll will ask is there any any questions that folks may have for me because I think a lot of the stuff that we have been dealing with has been in in the news pretty heavily recently um and I don't want to bore folks with the same information Lori go ahead I really wanted to see it's just such a rough time of year there are so many conflicts but I really wanted to see the discussion around the naming of the port did you have just a little bit you wanted to share about that with us sure yeah so with regard to the uh naming of the port after Don Young um there were three different proposals that uh the assembly deliberated um one of them naming the port uh the Don young Port of Anchorage the other one naming the port the Don young Port of all Alaska and then the third one naming the cargo docks um after Don young um and so those were the three proposals that we had before us we um had some public test testimony and then we debated those proposals um there were members who were all over the place on those proposals there are some members who liked to the original recommendation I think there were some members who liked um the latter recommendation that I mentioned regarding the cargo dos and then there were some members who were dubious about the whole thing about whether we should rename anything uh part of the port I should say after Da young um I think in the end um we uh uh there was a motion made to just postpone the debate indefinitely because I think I think in the end we were all just um had really didn't have a clue of what direction to go as a majority of the body um and so that motion was made and that motion did succeed it we are going to be coming back to the debate on January 9th and um My Hope Is that when we do come back to that debate we can put it to rest and and make a decision and so hopefully folks assembly members over the next couple of weeks uh have a chance to think about what decision they want to make but yeah you know it was a pretty interesting conversation overall and and we'll see what kind of decisions are made on January 9th thanks Felix any other questions for Felix one order of business we didn't settle yet but I think we should just now is do we want to have our work session either before or after our January meeting so our January meeting is set for the 25th um we are going to have a guest speaker uh Zenobia Benfield um I think I mentioned this last time she did a state or Nationwide survey of communities that um passed a resolution that racism is a Public Health crisis and she had some really great learnings from that that she's going to share with the group for discussion I actually think her presentation might be really informative for us going into our work session so maybe I would put forward a preference for the 27th for our work session um but what what's the will of the committee we had been holding the January 20th and January 27th they're both Saturdays and I think we had said pastor maybe be like 10 to two was a good time period for people right and that's what I was going to question two is what I think that's what we said yeah so any any thoughts about either the 20th or the 27th of January for our session I have a thought the 20th well 10 to two that probably with me CU we've got to do an MLK presentation out at National Guard on the 20th but that's at three so if we did 10 two that's that's true that I think that came up I feel like someone else had an event on that day as well well are there any objections to the 27th also give this a little bit more time to prepare too work for me okay for the 27th M I cannot make the 20th but I can make the 27 great okay and I see a thumbs up online okay let's go with the 27th and we'll get a um kind of framework agenda out to everybody um location oh talked about here can't can we do this room on the weekend Jasmine I can't staff it but so you'll have to work that out with an assembly member okay so Felix could we talk with you about that yeah we can discuss yeah sure great okay um that would be ideal I think yeah okay um any audience participation there's no one here in the room anyone online okay any objections to a journey I just have a question SL request I know that uh there's always people write minutes um and I know Jasmine always sends them Jasmine's not doing it anymore actually yeah so is there a possibility that we can have our minutes toward in a driver somewhere that we can actually reach yeah um um that was my request because I know that I don't know where they're at I know that the sessions are being recorded and I can see them but I really like to read notes and we have them yeah um Jasmine are are the notes that you so how basically the way that set up is Jasmine was doing action items for us and then a couple meetings ago shared that she wasn't able to do it anymore so then I think Celeste did one round and then Lor's doing them tonight are they all stored somewhere I are your action items notes on the website no um because typically committees don't have um action notes and so I just distribute them to the members and so I did send them through emails um that they're available and I can always resend them um if you were looking for previous meeting yes yeah okay me I can send them maybe what we can just start doing is and it's only been a couple meetings since a committee members been doing it so maybe we can just have whoever is writing the notes share them with jasman and then they go out by email okay is that okay yes yeah you can do that right absolutely absolutely yeah thank you and I I don't want to be a bottleneck um last time Celeste wrote the notes sorry the first time kind of on the Fly celest of the notes and then she shared them with Pastor May and I and I started reading them and they were great but I didn't have time to really edit them and so I think they just got stuck with us so um but I also think Celeste wasn't necessarily thinking they were ready for everyone to see so I I don't really want to just send them out um so maybe we can just start with Lori Lori get your notes to a point where you feel like the committee can see them and then send them to Jasmine and then we'll just go with that and it's okay if they're rough yeah I was just going to share it's really you know you know this it's really hard to take the the um the minute and the notes and be a participant in the meeting and so there there will be holes and misses but I figure you know I tried to capture sort of what happened I did put an assumption that the slides from the presentation from Alexis would be attached so I didn't like type up all the same things that were on the slides y yeah I have it on our committee web page and I'll email it out okay that's great does that work John yeah yeah yeah thank you did we have a vol oh yeah do we um have a volunteer for January to do the notes this is Taylor I signed up last time as like a December backup for Lori push to January if she wasn't available and I I can still do January if that works perfect that's fantastic yeah we talked about that yeah okay um we can adjourn unless there's any objection okay thanks so much everyone have a wonderful holiday thank you take care merry Christmas happy New Year everybody y yes thank you byebye just that you and I just said like um the sent us the link and so we'll bring it next time