>>CLERK: MIRANDA AND GUDES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. IT IS NOW 5:01. YOU CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. PRENT.ICAL QUORUM BEI THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 9. AND THIS MEETING OF QUASI JUDICIAL AND OTHER MATTERS ARE CONDUCTED WITH A LIVE IN-PERSON QUORUM PRESENT IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS IN LIGHT OF THE CONTINUING COVID-19 GOVERNMENT HEALTH STANDARDS AND GUIDANCE IN EFFECT, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY THROUGH VIDEO TELECONFERENCE AS FLORIDA STATUTE AND RULES COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY OR CMT. THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA CAN WATCH ON QUAIBL CHANNEL 640 FROM SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER CHANNEL 15. AND ON THE INTERNET AT TAMPA.GOV/LIVESTREAM. THERE ARE WAYS TO PARTICIPATE THIS EVENING. AND THOSE HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE IN THE NOTICE WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT TAMP TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL. WITH REGARD TO TONIGHT'S QUASI JUDICIAL HEARINGS, PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY BY PREREGISTERING BY CMT FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS AT TAMP TAMPA.GOV/QUASI. NOW MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO APPEAR IN PERSON BUT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE BY USING THE FACILITIES BEING MADE AVAILABLE BY THE PUBLIC BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY TAMPA AT OLD CITY HALL 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD ON THE SECOND FLOOR. PLEASE NOTE THAT USE OF MASS SEX REQUIRED IN THE BUILDING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING IS ENCOURAGED. COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE SENT TO COUNCIL IN ADVANCE BY E-MAIL. AND THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE TO BE VIEWED AT TAMPA.GOV/AGENDAS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY MAIL OR E-MAIL HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE PERMANENT RECORD OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. THE COMMENTS THAT ARE TIMELY CEIVED WILL BE AFFORDED EQUAL CONSIDERATION AS IF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE MADE IN PERSON. MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE LAST COMMENT. IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING BY THE G GO-TO-MEETING PLATFORM. IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE CHAT FUNCTION SHOULD NOBODY BE USED BY THE PUBLIC TO COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL. PURELY FOR TECHNICAL PROBLEMS. IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING A TECHNICAL ISSUE USE THE CHAT FUNCTION. OTHERWISE, DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH IT. THAT ARE MY REMARKS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE NEED A MOTION. >> MOTION. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT AND MR. CITRO SEC SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A TIGHT SCHEDULE TONIGHT. A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT ON A FEW ITEMS AND MAKE SURE WE STICK TO THE TIME LIMIT TON TONIGHT. GO BUCS TONIGHT. I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO WATCH THE GAME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THERE SO PEOPLE CAN GET IN FRONT OF OUR TELEVISION SETS D CHR ON OUR HOMETOWN BUCCANEERS. YES SIR? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, BUT WHEN I RECEIVE THESE AND READ THE APPLICANTS SO KIND TO APPLY AND SEND IT IN, SOME OF THESE HAVE TWO COMPLETE AND SOME OF THESE -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ME OR I DIDN'T GET MINE COMPLETE. THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FOR EACH ONE. SOME HAVE ONE, A COVER LETTER. SO I ONLY HAVE TWO SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR SHOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO LEGALLY IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION UNLESS MY PACK CAME INCOMPLETE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST TO FURTHER THAT. WHAT I AM HOPING FOR, MR. MIRANDA, IS THAT WE HEAR THE INTERVIEWS TONIGHT. WE HEAR THE PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. AND WE DEFER VOTING. BECAUSE FRANKLY, I JUST HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH SOME OF THESE. DON'T KNOW MOST OF THESE FOLKS. I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT IT. MAYBE TALK TO SOME OF THEIR REFERENCES AND THAT SORT OF THING. IF WE COULD -- DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON IT NOW BUT CONSIDER DEFER VOTING AFTER WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AS OPPOSED TO RUSHING IN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: AID MEETING WITH CAMARIA AND SHE WILL COME ON AND THE CITY ATTORNEY IN REFERENCE TO THAT ITEM. WE UNDERSTAND THIS WAS SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PUT AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT NEED TO START TO GET THESE FOLKS IN ON TIME AND BE ABLE TO DO THEIR SERVICE ON THE BOARD. THERE ARE SOME IDEAS -- I WILL LET HER GO INTO DETAIL IF THAT BE THE WISHES OF THIS COUNCIL AFTER WE HAVE HEARD HER OPENING STATEMENTS IF THERE IS A DATE TO VOTE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CANDIDATES TO GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. MR. SHELBY, I DO SEE YOUR HAND? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SH SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. I WOULD ASK THAT COUNCIL DEFER TO MISS PETTIS-MACKLE BECAUSE COUNCIL SHOULD KNOW THE CONTEXT OF GOING FORWARD GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID TONIGHT AND GIVEN WHAT THE SITUATION IS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE SHE IS. GOOD EVENING. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAM CAMARI A PETTIS-MAKELL. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD. CITY COUNCIL'S SELECTION FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD. THE SI RECEIVED 11 APPLICATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL. THE APPLICATIONS WERE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL BY THE CLERK. WITH YOUR SELECTION, THE NEW CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEMBER WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE UPCOMING TRAINING SESSIONS WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE BOARD AT THE SEPTEMBER 21, 2021 CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING. THAT WILL BE THE FIRST TRAINING THAT ALL MEMBERS WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN. AND THIS IS WHY THIS SELECTION PROCESS WAS MOVED UP IN ORDER FOR THE NEW MEMBER TBE AE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TRAINING SESSIONS MOVING FORWARD. IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, MAY I PROCEED IN INTRODUCING THE CANDIDATES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU MAY PROCEED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT TO SAVE IT UNTIL THE END GIVEN WHAT COUNCIL HAS INDICATED UP FRONT, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW FOR THE RAMIFICATIONS FOR DOING THAT IF COUNCIL DOES NOT MAKE ITS DECISION TONIGHT OR TALK ABOUT IT LATER AFTER YOU HEAR ALL THE PEOPLE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET'S G TO THE PEOPLE, MR. SHELBY. BUT AT THE END, IF THE COUNCIL IS FIRM ON A NONVOTE, THEN CAMARIA CAN TELL US THE OPTIONS. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. THE FIRST APPLICANT FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERING IS ROSS ALANDER AND I BELIEVE HE IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY. >> YES. AM I ON NOW? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR. WE HAVE YOU, YES, SIR. >> ROSS ALANDER. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 39 YEARS FROM MICHIGAN, LANSING AND FLINT. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN BOTH CITIES, AS WELL AS LONGBOAT K KEY, OPEN HOUSING AND OTHER AREAS. I LIKE WHAT THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD, PARTICULARLY READ MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POSSIBLE POLICY CHANGES. I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL FOR INPUT AND FROM THE BOARD LIKE WE HAVE HERE. I CAME DOWN HERE FROM MICHIGAN. I WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA GENERAL FOR TEN YEARS AND TAUGHT AT USF AND IN FACT STILL TEACH AT USF AS AN ADJUNCT. I AM AN ARBITRATOR AND RESOLVED IN CONFLICT RESOLUTION ON AN ONGOING BASIS. ONE THING IS BUILDING TRUST AND ENHANCING RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THAT AND NEGOTIATIONS AS WELL THAT. IN MY LABOR ARBITRATIONS -- AS YOU KNOW AN ARBITRATOR REALLY CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS -- REALLY CAN'T CHANGE POLICY IS WHAT I AM SAYING AND ARBITRATOR CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I FEEL IT IS MORE AND MORE MEDIATION IN IT WHERE YOU GET INVOLVED IN PROBLEM SOLVING AND I REALLY ENJOY DOING THAT. I AM SURE OF MY FRIENDS CALL ME A NEGOTIATIONS NERD, BUT I LIKE DOING THAT STUFF, PARTICULARLY IN LABOR ISSUES AND PROBLEM RESOLUTIONS. AND OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES TO -- TO POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT IT IS AB ABOUT. THE KEY THING IN LABOR RELATIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS IN ARBITRATION IS LISNING. REALLY LISTENING. LISTENING HARD. IT IS HARD TO LISTEN SOMETIMES. AND I THINK I AM A GOOD LISTENER. I AM VERY PATIENT. I AM INVOLVED WITH THE JIMMY CARTER CENTER IN ATLANTA AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION PROGRAM THERE ON SOME CASE ISSUES. AND I JUST -- JUST BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AND I REALLY THINK THAT I COULD -- I COULD HELP. I COULD HELP. I COULD BE A PART OF THAT BOARD AND I REALLY COULD ASSIST. I LOVE THE AREA. AND MY FAMILY IS FROM THIS AREA. AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO DO THAT. AGAIN, THE KEY THING WILL BE BUILDING TRUST AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THAT COME BEFORE THE BOARD. THAT IT IS A BOARD -- NOT JUST A BOARD FOR YES OR NO OR WHATEVER, BUT A BOARD THAT CAN REACT AND RESPOND AND POTENTIALLY RESOLVE ISSUES. THAT THE WHOLE IDEA IN A PROACTIVE KIND OF WAY. AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT NATIONALLY WITH PUBLIC AGENCIES WITH MARTA, IN ATL ATLANTA, THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION, SCHOOL BOARDS, MIAMI-DADE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND OPA-LOCKA AS WELL AS COUNTY SCHOOL BOARDS TOO. AND I WILL LEAVE WITH THIS, ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES TALKING ABOUT ARBITRATION OR MEDIATION OR LISTENING OR CONFLICT RESOLUTION REALLY IS A QUOTE FROM SAINT FRANCIS ASSISI, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE I AM UNDERSTOOD. IN OTHER WORDS, REALLY LI LISTENING AND I AM A REAL LISTENER AND I CAN DO THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. MADAM CLERK, MR. SHELBY, DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL 11 APPL APPLICANTS IN FRONT OF YOU. CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO ME. MR. MIRANDA INDICATED HE IS MISSING INFORMATION IN THE PACKET. HOWEVER WE LOOK AT IT TONIGHT, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET COMPLETE PACKAGES TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THE ONES THAT I HAVE ARE INCO INCOMPLETE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE COMPLETE PACKETS TO ALL COUNCILMEMBERS BY TOMORROW SO THEY CAN LOOK AT IT OVER THE WEEKEND DEPENDING ON HOW WE DECIDE WITH A VOTE. WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE A COMPLETE PACKET. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS SUE ANN BARLOW. >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO IS THAT? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SUE ANN BARLOW AND SHE IS PRESENT. I AM CALLING THEM ALPHABETICALLY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING. >> COUNCIL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR U. >> HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR ME. WHAT I BELIEVE -- I AM VERY INTERESTED IN BEING MORE INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY AND I BELIEVE WHAT MAKES ME QUALIFIED FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD IS, FIRST OF ALL, MY COMMITMENT TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND IN ALL FAIRNESS, WITHOUT PARTIALITY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WITH UPMOST RESPECT WITH HONOR AND DIGNITY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY. MY INVOLVEMENT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY BEGAN 20 YEARS AGO WHILE IN THE MILITARY. I WAS STATIONED AT MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE, WHICH WOULD BE MY FINAL ASSIGNMENT. I WAS THERE FROM 2001 TO 2004. AND IT WAS FROM THIS MILITARY BACKGROUND AND THE HEALTH CARE FIELD THINK HAT BRING OTHER QUALIFICATIONS SUCH AS PRINCIPLES FOR WHICH OBJECTIVITY OBJECTIVELY REVIEWING HEALTH RECORDS OF CLAIMS AGAINST PROVIDERS TO DETERMINE PROFESSIONALS STANDARD OF CARE. AND AS AN OFFICER, TO UPHOLD THE HIGHEST OFTANDARDS. I KNOW THE CHALLENGES AND REWARDS THAT COME WORKING WITH WILDLY DIVERSE STAFF WHILE KEEPING EVERYONE FOCUSED ON THE MISSION, AND AT THE SAME TIME, BEING UNITED IN THAT MISSION. THE NECESSITY OF WRITTEN STANDARDS OF PRACTICE THAT COVER THE WORKPLACE IN EVERY AREA WITH ALL THOSE WORK PROCEDURES THAT ARE PERFORMED THERE. THE MILITARY TOOK ME TO MANY CITIES AND PLACES AND GAVE ME SCORES OF COMMUNITIES AND INTRODUCED ME TO VARIED EXPERIENCES. IN ADDITION, IOUGH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MANY -- AND MULTIPLE VOLUNTEER ACTIVITIES WERE POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT MY CREER. SINCE RETIREMENT, I HAVE CONTINUED TO VOLUNTEER IN THIS CITY WITH SEVERAL SERVICE AGENCIES. AT TIME VOLUNTEER ACTIVITY LOOKS VERY UNOFFICIAL AND AS I HELP MY NEIGHBORS IN NEED. WE CAN ALL ACKNOWLEDGE THIS PAST ONE AND A HALF YEARS HAVE PUT GREAT NEED IN FRONT OF ALL OF US. I HOPE FROM WHAT YOU HEARD ME SAY YOU WILL AGREE THAT MY HISTORY DEMONSTRATES I HAVEHE ABILITY AND QUALIFICATIONS TO BUILD WORKING RELATIONSHIP, TO COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY WITH DIVERSE GROUPS, TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS ROLE AS W WELL. I TRUST WHAT I HAVE PRESENTED MEETS YOUR EXPECTATIONS. A FEW THINGS I HAVE NOT MENTIONED, I HAVE A COUNSELING DEGREE. AND I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT. LISTENING AND GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER WELL IS SO IMPORTANT. I OFFER THIS TO YOU SINCERELY AND IN GOOD FAITH. AND I DO INVITE ANY QUESTIO OR POINTS OF CLARIFICATION YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR ME AT THIS TIME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE WE DOING QUESTIONS? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T PLAN ON TAKING QUESTIONS. DING DINGFELDER WELL, THIS IS A QUESTION I WAS G REALLY GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY, TIME PERMITTING, BUT WHAT -- WHAT IS -- WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THE -- TO THE TRAGIC FLOYD MATTER AND BLACK LIVES MATTER AS A WHOLE? AND YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. SORRY. >> EXTREMELY GRIEVING AND HARD FOR EVERYONE. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST TERRIBLY SADDENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND INCLUDING MYSELF. I MEAN. IF I COULD JUST SAY IT THAT W WAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, A POINT OF CLARITY. LET ME ASK A QUESTION. IF THIS IS AN INTERVIEW PROCESS OR STANDARD THREE MINUTES OR WHAT IS THE PROCESS AS FAR AS THE TIME GOES. IF COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS, DON'T WANT TO NOT ALLOW THEM TO ASK A QUESTION. IF IT IS IN A TIME FRAME. WHAT DO WE HAVE GOING ON? >>MARTIN SHELBY: FRANKLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NOT GIVEN IT SIGNIFICANT THOUGHT. IN THE PAST, YOU HAD APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND THEY HAVE JUST BEEN HANDLED WITHOUT A DIALOGUE INTERVIEW POSING QUESTIONS TO EACH PERSON. THIS IS CERTAINLY AN UNIQUE BOARD AND UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. IT IS COUNCIL'S PASUR BUT CERTAINLY WE DID NOT SET FORTH THE GROUND RULES IN ADVANCE, SO IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE. ALL I WILL ASK IN THE INTEREST OF FAIRNESS THAT YOU BE CONSISTENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IF WE HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THEIR SPIEL AND IF COUNCILMEMBERS -- A MINUTE FOR COUNCILMEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT MAY BE BUT COUNCIL, IN ALL FAIRNESS, THEY MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED AND PREPARED FOR THREE MINUTES BECAUSE THAT IS NORMALLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. SO MY RECOMMENDATIOWOULBE TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF THE BENEFIT OF GIVING THEM THAT EXTRA MINUTE, AND HOW DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO HANDLE THEIR QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS OF COUNCIL. AND THE QUESTION IS -- IF IT IS A QUESTION FOR ONE. OR IS IT A QUESTION FOR ALL. AND WHEN DO YOU DO THAT BECAUSE LOGISTICALLY ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS AT THE KIOSK COMING AND GOING LOGISTICALLY IT IS DIFFICULT AND ALSO DIFFICULT FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE WITH REGARD TO VIRTUAL TO BRING UP PEOPLE AND BRING THEM BACK. AND I DON'T KW WHAT IS IN -- MISS LUCAS, IF SHE HAS A COMMENT OF HOW IT IS BEST ADDRESSED THAT WAY. I WILL JUST BE CONCERNED THAT WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS, IT IS CONSISTENT AND APPLIED FAIRLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE ALREADY ON PERSON NUMBER TWO. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT THE QUESTION BROUGHT TO PERSON NUMBER ONE. BACK FROM PERSON NUMBER ONE AND COMPLETE EACH INTERVIEW. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETE WITH THE APPLICANT, THEN YOU ARE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO THEEXT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT WE WILL DO WE WILL LET THEM COMPLETE THEIR TIME. I WILL ASK COUNCILMEMBERS ANY QUESTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR APPLICANT AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TONIGHT NEXT APPLICANT. >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY. AND HOW IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO HANDLE THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT GENTLEMAN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAD NO QUESTIONS. MR. DINGFELDER -- HE MAY NOT STILL BE ON. HE IS ON? BRING HIM BACK. BRING HIM BACK. THAT WAY WE CAN BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY THE SAME QUESTION THAT MR. DINGFELDER MAY ASK AUTO TO ALL THE APPLICANTS. >> I AM BACK. >> YES, RIGHT HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED WITH YOUR QUESTION, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ALANDER, I AM JUST CURIOUS SINCE WE HAD SORT OF A RACIALLY CHARGED ENVIRONMENT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO BLACK LIVES MATTER AND THE FLOYD MATTER? >> WELL, THAT'S AMERICA. I MEAN THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. AND WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT. BE UP FRONT WITH IT. DEAL WITH IT. BE VERY OPEN ON IT. AND I THINK IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COUNTRY THEY ARE DOING THAT. OBVIOUSLY THE FLOYD -- THINGS WENT REALLY WRONG THERE. AND BLACK LIVES MATTERS I THINK RAISED A LOT OF GOOD POINTS, ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. AND IT IS KIND OF AN ONGOING -- AN ONGOING THING, BUT ALSO GOES ON TO OUR FARMWORKERS. ISSUES WITH FARMWORKERS HAVE THE SAME. I AM CHAIR OF THE BETHEL F FARMWORKER MISSION IN WIMAUMA AN. DISCRIMINATION ISSUES AND SO ON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRIEFLY, THE EVENTS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WILL THAT GIVE YOU ANY BIAS TOWARD THE POLICE FORCE? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. I KNOW IN MY ARBITRATION, I WORK WITH SOME POLICE DEPARTMENTS. AND I HEAR -- I HEAR BOTH SI SIDES. AND -- AND IT IS A TOUGH SITUATION AND JUST NEED TO LISTEN AND HR ALL THE FACTS, BUT I HAVE NO BIAS AT ALL. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN? >> YOU ARE WELCOME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRING SUSAN UP TO THE PODIUM ON THE SAME FLOOR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I.T. GO BACK TO THE SECOND FLOOR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. BARLOW. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ASK THE SAME QUESTION. THE EVENTS IN YEAR AND A HALF BECAUSE OF THE DEATH -- THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, WILL THAT BRING ANY BIAS FROM YOU AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? >> NOT AT ALL. I HAVE NO BIAS AGAINST THE POLICE. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY I CERTAINLY AM CONCERNED FOR ANY UNWARRANTED, UNNECESSARY FORCE. AND CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT HAS TO BE INVESTIGATED WHEN THAT IS THE CASE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 3, I BELIEVE. >> CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT APPLICANT IS BIANCA BROOKS, AND SHE PROVIDED A WRITTEN SUMMATION IN ADDITION TO HER APPLICATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL EARLIER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES EVERYONE HAVE -- >> SHE IS NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, WE NEED TO -- MR. MIRANDA ONLY HAS ONE SHEET OF PAPER -- THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE TOMORROW FOR ALL COUNCILMEMBERS IN THEIR BOXES, IF POSSIBLE. WE WILL GO TO THE FOURTH ONE. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE NEXT APPLICANT IS SCOTT BUSHWAY AND HE IS PRESENT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, COU COUNCILMEMBERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD EVENING. >> MY NAME IS SCOTT BUSHWAY. I AM ONE-YEAR RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA. LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY BACKGROUND. I HAVE 32 YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE IN A MEDIUM-SIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE OF BOSTON WHERE I RETIRED AS THE DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF IN 2010. I STARTED MY CAREER AS A PATROL OFFICER. I MOVED INTO THE DETECTIVE DIVISION. PROMOTED TO PATROL SERGEANT. PROMOTED AGAIN TO DETECTIVE SERGEANT. APPOINTED AS LIEUTENANT AND POLICE CHIEF WHERE I RETIRED. I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND I TEACH CRIMINAL JUSTICE CLASSES AT HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE YBOR CAMPUS ALTHOUGH CURRENTLY MY CLASSES ARE ONLINE. I APPLIED AND I HAVE A LOT TO EVER. DESPITE MY LAW ENFORCEMENT, I AM VERY OPEN-MINDED, FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BELIEVE I CAN BRING SOME -- MAYBE SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE THAT MAY BENEFIT SOME DECISION MAKING. I HAVE -- YOU KNOW, I COME TO THIS PROCESS WITH NO AGENDA. AGAIN, NO BIAS. AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS. VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GARRITY DECISION AND WINEGARD EN RIGHTS. AND I FEEL LIKE I WILL BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS POSITION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COU COUNCILMEMBERS? MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. DURING YOUR TENURE -- AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE UP NORTH, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR INCIDENT DEALING WITH RACE, MAYBE A DISCIPLINE ACT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT STICKS OUT IN YOUR MIND WHERE -- WHERE RACE WAS A LARGE ISSUE FOR YOU AS A SENIOR OFFICER? >> THAT I PERSONALLY DEALT W WITH? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR. >> AS A DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF I WAS IN CHARGE OF INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS AND THE INTERNAL ISSUES THAT UNFORTUNATELY -- WITH A MEDIUM-SIZED POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS RELATIVELY MINOR. USE OF FORCE ISSUES THAT I INVESTIGATED. IN FACT MOST CITIZEN COMPLAINTS ARE GROUNDED USUALLY IN USE OF FORCE ISSUES. AS FAR AS THEM BEING SPECIFIC RACE-RELATED, THEY WERE NOT. HOWEVER I WAS THE DESIGNATED CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICERS -- ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FIRST CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICERS DESIGNATED FROM THE NORFOLK COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR INVESTIGATING ALL INCIDENTS OF CIVIL RIGHTS, HATE CRIMES, AND WHAT NOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT WAS THE MOST SERIOUS LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE THAT YOU HAD TO GIVE OUT FOR USE OF FORCE? >> WE TERMINATED OFFICERS. NOT BEING -- NOT TO GET INTO PARTICULAR, BUT WE MAKE AUORITY WHICH FOLLOWED OURING RECOMMENDATIONS OF TERMINATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> IT WAS THE ABSOLUTE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR COMING TO INTERVIEW TODAY, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT PERSON IS LEXI GILL. I BELIEVE I SAW -- AID NOTE THAT THAT PERSON WOULD. THAT PERSON BUT I THINK THE PERSON IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY. >>CLERK: SHE IS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE HER VIRTUALLY? >>CLERK: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE SHE IS. >> GOOD EVENING, LEXIE GILL. AND I AM A THIRD YEAR DOCTORATE STUDENT IN CRIMINOLOGY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA. I HOLD A BACHELOR AND MASTER'S IN CRIMINOLOGY AND INCLUDING POLICING AND CRIME. MY DISSERTATION INVOLVING POLICE, LEGIMACY AND THE COMMUNITY. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM KANSAS CITY MISSOURI. AND I WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE. AND I ALSO MOVED TO SEATTLE, WASHINGTON, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AS WELL. AND I HAVE A TON OF APPLIED RESEARCH. I HAVE GONE THROUGH RESEARCH ETHICS TRAINING AND I WAS PART OF THE TAMPA BAY POLICE REFORM THIS SUMMER. A GRADUATE RESEARCH ASSISTANT UNDER DR. BREONA FOX, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH OUR FINDINGS AND PUTTING TOGETHER A PUBLISHABLE REPORT. SO LIKE I SAID, I HAVE HAD RESEARCH ETHICS TRAINING AND I KNOW I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE SUCH A GREAT HONOR TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE FIELD I AM INVOLVED IN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. ANY COUNCILMEMBERS? MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW YOU MENTION TWO POLICE POLICE DEPARTMENTS KANSAS CITY AND ONE IN NORTHWEST. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT POSITION YOU HAD -- WHAT TYPE OF WORK YOU DID THERE? >> YES. I WORKED IN KANSAS CITY AS A GRADUATE RESEARCH ASSISTANT. IT WAS ON A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FUNDED GRANT. AND I HELPED GO THROUGH NONFATAL SHOOTING REVIEWS IN KANSAS CITY AT THE TIME. AND DETERMINED IF THEY WERE INDEED GANG-RELATED OR NOT. AND THEN IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON, I WORKED ON SEVERAL PROJECTS, NEIGHBORHOOD GRANTS WHERE I LOOKED AT THE GUN VIOLENCE WITHIN THE AREA TO SEE WHO ALL WAS INVOLVED IN THE GUN VIOLENCE TO PREVENT FUTURE VICTIMIZATION. ALSO, TO KIND OF STOP THE CRIME. SO I WORKED WITH SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE WORKED WITH TACOMA WASHINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, YAKIMA WASHINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, PIERCE COUNTY IN WASHINGTON. I HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH PASCO COUNTY ON A DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT, WHICH I AM CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE THESE VOLUNTARILY OR WERE YOU AN EMPLOYEE? >> I WAS NOTECHNICALLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I ALWAYS BEEN EMPLOYED THROUGH EITHER A RESEARCH -- A RESEARCH BUSINESS OR THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. MISS GILL. SO YOU ARE WORKING ON YOUR PH.D. AT THIS POINT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. I AM IN MY THIRD YEAR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO -- I HAVE BEEN IN ACADEMIA WITH A MASTER'S THESIS AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE SAT HERE. THE DIFFERENCE TO ME -- AND DON'T MEAN THIS WITH ANY CRITICISM BECAUSE A QUESTION IS COMING, THE DIFFERENCE TO ME IS IN ACADEMIA A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE OBSERVING, TAKING INFORMATION AND ANALYZING DATA, ETC. HERE -- IN THIS SCENARIO, OR HOPEFULLY IN THE CRB SCENARIO, YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS. YOU ARE DEVILLING FURTHER THAN WHAT MIGHT BE VOLUNTEERED TO YOU. AND I AM JUST WONDERING HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT ROLE AND A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY GREAT QUESTION. SO I -- FROM SOMEONE IN ACADEMIA, I FEELS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTION AND TO UN COVER THE ANSWERS. AND SO MY RESEARCH SPECIFICALLY IS ON APPLIED. I KNOW HOW TO GET MY HANDS DIRTY AND WORK IN THE FIELD AND NOT NECESSARILY BE AN OBSERVER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM RUFFLING FEATHERS. ABSOLUTELY NOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EVEN IF IT IS IN A COMMUNITY THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY IN. >> ABSOLUTELY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >> I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE. >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MR. VIERA. I SAW THE NAME DR. BRIANNA FOX, OBVIOUSLY A GOOD NAME THAT WE ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF. I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED, THE INCIDENT THAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR INCLUDING BLACK LIVES MATTERS MOVEMENT, THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLOYD, ETC. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON THAT? >> MY OPINION IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TOO STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO HOLD POLICE ACCOUNTABLE WHENEVER THEY M MISSTEP. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE RESEARCH AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS COMING FROM AND ALSO THE POLICE OFFICERS AT THE SAME TIME. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT APPLICANT IS BRITTANY LACONIE AND SHE IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY AS WELL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. >> HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> SO MY NAME IS BRITTANY LACONIE AND I, FIRST, WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU GUYS THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS. I HAVE BEEN A FLORIDA RESIDENT MY ENTIRE LIFE AND LIVED IN TAMPA FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. NTIN IS MY HOME. I LOVE THE CITY AND LIVING DOWNTOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. I WAS EVEN TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING GIRL. AND THROUGH THAT, I WAS ABLE TO GET INVOLVED WITH A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WAY. WHEN I LEFT THAT POSITION, I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF TAMPA, WHERE I HAVE BEEN ON THE PUBLIC POLICY COMMITTEE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THAT HAS BEEN A REWARDING EXPERIENCE BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS WITH DIFFERENT LEGISLATORS AND REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON SOME OF THE POLICY THAT COMES OUT OF TALLAHASSEE AND JUST BEI INVVED IN HOW THE POLICY AND THE LEGISLATION GETS MADE HAS REALLY GIVEN ME A NICE INSIGHT INTO ALL OF THAT. AND WITH THAT, I AM A SE SECOND-YEAR LAW STUDENT AT S STETSON UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW, AND BEING IN LAW SCHOOL, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE DEVELOPED THE SKILLS TO VIEW AN ISSUE AT MULTIPLE VIEWPOINTS AND REALLY ANALYZE SITUATIONS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTS AND FROM ALL SIDES OF THE SITUATION. I FEEL LIKE LAW SCHOOL HAS ALLOWED ME AN UNIQUE INSIGHT OF THE CULTURAL CHALLENGES OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN FACING BY SPENDING TIME DISCUSSING ALL OF THESE CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES WITH MY PROFESSIONALS AND OTHER STUDENTS ON CAMPUS. I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET YOUNG ADULTS INVOLVED IN LOCAL AFFAIRS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAD THIS MOVEMENT BY BEING ONE OF THE YOUNG ADULTS GETTING INVOLVED AND BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO STETSON AND TELLING ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE CITY AND OTHER REVIEW BOARDS AND CITY COUNCIL AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST. THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD AND THE TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT THAT THEY PROVIDE I THINK REALLY WORKS TO RESTORE PUBLIC FAITH AND TRUST IN OUR POLICE AND COMMUNITY AND THE BOARD ALLOWS THE CITIZENS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEIR COMPLAINTS OF OFFICERS WILL BE HANDLED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. BY A PLACEMENT ON THIS BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S POLICY AND PROCEDURES. BECAUSE IF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, THEY WILL HAVE HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY WORK. THEYILL VE A HARD TIME TRUSTING THE POLICE OFFICERS AND EVEN THE BOARD IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE INFORMATION GETS PRESENTED AND HOW THE SYSTEM REALLY WORKS. AND THEN BY WORKING WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ABOUT MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PROCEDURES THA SURROUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT BRINGS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS BRITTANY. ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. YOU SAID DISCUSSING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE DOOU UNDERSTAND THE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS? >> I HAVE NOT READ IT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA, IF I MAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA AND MR. DINGFELDER. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR APPLYING. I WENT TO SETSON A WHILE AGO AND AS COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ALWAYS SAYS SHOUT OUT TO STETSON AND WHATNOT. WHY ADDITIONALLY WOULD YOU LIKE SERVE ON THIS BOARD. IS THERE ANY -- ANYTHING THAT HAS OCCURRED MAYBE IN THE NEWS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT MAY MOVE YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, MA'AM? >> I JUST THINK THAT THE CULTURAL CHANGES AND THE CULTURAL -- THE CULTURAL ISSUES THAT OUR COUNTRY IS FACING SO IMPORTANT. AND WE REALLY NEED YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED AND LEAD THE MOVEMENT. NOT JUST BY PROTESTING AND GETTING OUT ON THE STREETS BUT ACTIVELY WORKING WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY COME ABOUT A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. WE DON'T WANT SOLUTIONS THAT ARE ONE-SIDED THAT WILL ONLY WORK FOR ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS THAT WILL WORK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FEELING LIKE THEY CAN NOT TRUST THE POLICE AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FEELING OPPRESSED BY POLICE AND SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS AND WORK IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM, AND GOOD LUCK AT STETSON AND WHENEVER THAT BAR COMES UP. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MISS LACONIE. ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THEN A BIGGER ONE. I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID AFTER YOU WERE A LIGHTNING GIRL, WHICH MEANS YOU ARE AN IMPRESSIVE ICE-SKATER, BUT AFTER A LIGHTNING GIRL, YOU SAID DID YOU SOMETHING WITH POLICY. WHO WAS THAT WITH? >> YES, SIR. SO I AM ON THE JUNIOR LEAGUE OF TAMPA POLICY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, IN AN IDEAL WORLD WHEN YOU FINISH NEXT YEAR AND YOU MAKE THE BEST SCORE IN T WLE STE ON THE BAR EXAM, WHAT -- WHAT IS YOUR IDEAL JOB? >> YES, SIR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET AND WORK FOR A GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION AND DO POLICY WRITING. I AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS SO THE EPA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I HAVE ALSO IN LOOKING AT WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS LACONIE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? YOU SAID SOMETHING THINK THAT TALK ABOUT A LOT, MISS LACONIE. COUNCIL ALWAYS HEARS ME SAY CULTURE. YOU MADE MENTION OF CULTURE. ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CULTURE. THE COMMUNITY AND POLICE. >> YES, SIR. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR -- THEIR CULTURE THAT THEY FEEL IS IMPORTANT TO THEM. I AM HALF PAKISTANI. MY FATHER IMMIGRATED FROM PAKISTAN WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. AND I WAS RAISED IN A HOUSE HOLD THAT REALLY ACKNOWLEDGES, YOU KNOW, MY FATHER'S PAKISTANI HERITAGE AND PART OF MY CULTURE AD MY MOTHER'S AMERICAN HERITAGE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MADE ME THE PERSON I AM TODAY AND ALLOWED ME TO WORK IN DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND UNDERSTAND A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT ALL THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY. WE HAVE CUBANS. PEOPLE FROM CUBAN DESCENT AND PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRICAN AFRICAN-AMERICAN. WE HAVE HISPANICS. WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT CULTURES, AND THE WAY THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH THE POLICE RIGHT NOW AS WE HAVE SEEN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE GEORGE FLOYD INCIDENT AND BLACK LIV MATTERS. A CULTURAL RIFT AND SOME CULTURES OF DIFFERENT DESCENT, SKIN COLOR AND WAYS OF LIFE DO NOT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE RECOGNIZED THE SAME WAY OR ACKNOWLEDGED THE SAME WAY BY THE POLICE OFFICERS. AND THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE. A CULTURE THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE AND A CULTURE THAT THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE AND WE NEED FIND A WAY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP WHERE EVERYBODY CAN FEEL INCLUDED AND WORK TOGETHER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU FOR INTERVIEWING, MISS BRITTANY. >> THANK YOU. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT COUNCILMEMBERS, THE NEXT APPLICANT IS LEE LOWE RY. THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS NOT ABLE TO APPEAR BUT PROVIDED A LETTER THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL. THE NEXT APPLICANT IS KATHLEEN McCAREY AND SHE IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE HER. >> HI THERE. GUDES THERE SHE IS. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS. MY NAME ISATIE McCAREY AND I LIVED IN TAMPA THE LAST 22 YEARS. I WORKED FULL-TIME AT HEALTH CARE WHERE I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS AND I SPECIALIZE IN INITIATIVES AS A SIX SIGMA BLACK BELT. MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS AND A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND MASTER GUARDIANED A LITEM AND ADVOCATE FOR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN AND OVERSEEHE HOSPITAL SWAT TEAM FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL. YOU SEE ALL THE HOSPITAL BABIES IN THE HOSPITALS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR HOMES AND SHELTERED FROM THEIR PARENTS DUE TO AN ABUSIVE ACT. I AM SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WAS FORMED TO ENHANCE THE TRUST BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. AND I BELIEVE I WILL BE A PERFECT CANDIDATE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD AND VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND CARE ABOUT THE ISSUES. THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS GENTLEMEN? >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A CRB MEETING. >> I WATCHED A COUPLE LAST Y YEAR. >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVEN'T WATCHED ANY PRESENTLY? OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MISS McCAREY. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT COUNCILMEMBERS, THE NEXT APPLICANT WAS EDWARD MILTON. THIS APPLICANT DID NOT RESPOND TO T REQST TO APPEAR IN PERSON OR TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY WRITTEN SUMMERY TO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION. >ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL MOVE ON THEN. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NEXT APPLICANT IS CARLOS TERAO AND THIS APPLICANT IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN'T HEAR HIM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU HELP HIM? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU ARE STILL MUTED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF. >> MR. TURANO. YOU ARE UNMUTED ON YOUR END SO YOU MAY WANT TO UNMUTE YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE. >> SOMETIMES -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE IN WINDOWS OR MAC, SOMETIMES THE BOTTOM -- MY KIDS SOMETIMES PLAY WITH MINE. IT COULD THAT BE YOUR EAR POD IS SELECTED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON. CAN WE GET HIM BACK ON THE SCREEN? DID HE GO OUT, MADAM CLERK? >>CLERK: HE IS STILL ON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT YOU. >> CAN I BE HEARD NOW? >> YES, SIR. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YOU CAN PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. MR. TERADO? >> GOOD EVENING. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME NOW. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> MY APOLOGIES. I AM -- CAN I START. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN START SIR. >> SORRY FOR THE INCONVENIENCE. I AM CARLOS. I HAVE A BACK GROUND IN INSURANCE AND BUSINESS MANAGEMENT FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. THAT'S BEEN WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING. I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS AND MANAGEMENT ALSO. I NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY OR POLITICAL ORGANIZATION. I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE IN TAMPA -- IN FLORIDA, IN TAMPA, FOR SIX YEARS. MORE THAN SIX YEARS. WITH MY WIFE AND MY SON. AND I WANT -- I WANT TO BE PART WA TO VE BACK TO THECAUSE I COMMUNITY, TO TAMPA AND THE COMMUNITY THAT I -- WHERE I LIVE TOO. I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. I WANT TO USE MY EXPERIENCE IN MULTICULTURAL ENVIRONMENTS AND MANAGEMENT TO PROVIDE POSSIBLY -- POSSIBLY PROVIDE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW IN THE ISSUES AT HAND. I BELIEVE IN TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY FAIRNESS OBJECTIVITY AND RESPECT. AND I WOULD LE EVERYONE TO GIVE ME CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ANY MEMBERS -- ANY QUESTIONS? MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO HOW DID YOU HEAR THIS ABOUT PARTICULAR BOARD? DID THIS BOARD JUMP OUT AT YOU, SOMETHING UNUSUAL THAT APPEALED TO YOU? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BOARD? >> KIND OF A FUNNY STORY. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MY WIFE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT I WAS LOOKING TO -- FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY. AND ON FACEBOOK, THERE WAS A POST FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO IT JUMPED RIGHT OUT AT ME. AND I DECIDED TO APPLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. WE APPRECIATE IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, MR. TERATO. >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. THE LAST APPLICANT IS CARLOS VALDEZ. THAT PERSON WAS NOT ABLE TO APPEAR BUTID PROVIDE A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO SUMMARIZE THEIR INFORMATION. AND THIS INFORMATION WITH THAT LETTER IS ALSO PROVIDED BY THE CLERK. AND THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE APPLICANTS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, WHAT I HAVE VIEWED ON OUR -- >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WILL VOTE OR NOT, BUT I WANT TO SAY VERY IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE AND WE ONLY VE ONE SLOT. I HOPE WITH ALL THE BACKGROUNDS THAT THEY HAVE, I HOPE THEY CONSIDER APPLYING IT AGAIN IF THEY DON'T MAKE TONIGHT OR WHEN WE VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT I SEE, THREE LETTERS SUBMITTED, ONE RESPONSE FROM ONE APPLICANT AND EVERYBODY WAS VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE STILL NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION OR IF MR. MIRANDA NEEDS MORE TIME AND MR. DINGFELDER NEEDS MORE TIME IN REFERENCE OF WHAT THEY HEARD AND VIEWED THIS EVENING. SO I WILL GIVE IT A MINUTE TO GO TO EACH PERSON WITH ANY DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WILL BRING IT IN FOR A LANDING IF WE ARE VOTING TONIGHT OR PICK A DATE TO VOTE ON THESE CANDIDATES. WILL MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM PREPARED TO VOTE TONIGHT. I HAVE SEEN THE LETTERS OF THOSE WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND WE HEARD THE APPLICANTS AND ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS. SO I AM READY TO GO TONIGHT IF IT IS SO THE PLEASURE OF THE PWOORLD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I AM READY TO VOTE TONIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, YOU >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM READY TO MAKE A VOTE TONIGHT, YES, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. I MOVE FOR 45-DAY CONTINUANCE -- I AM JOKING. I AM READY TO VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL COMPLETELY DEFER TO MR. MIRANDA, BECAUSE MR. MIRANDA SEEMED TO INDICATE HE LIKED A LITTLE MORE TIME AND IF HE WOULD LIKE TIME -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THAT I LIKE TO HAVE TIME, BUT I DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE RESUME WOULD BE -- WE TALK OF DISCRIMINATING -- CAN'T BE -- ON A BOARD I AM LOOKING TO NOT DISCRIMINATE AND I DON'T HAVE THE -- OF THE ONES I HAVE HAD ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- ONLY FOUR OF 11 THAT I JUST HAVE THREE SHEETS FOR. AND OTHERS -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WILL YOU SAY YOU ARE THREE SHEETS TO THE WIND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOUR SHEETS TO THE WIND. BEING HERE WITH YOU, SIR, FIVE SHEETS TO THE WIND AND I AM ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. I GET ALONG WITH YOU. IT WOULD BE AN UNJUST FOR ME TO CAST A VOTE WITHOUT INFORMATION. IF YOU ALL WANT TO VOTE. THAT ALTERNATE STATE.OOK FOR >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. I WANT TO CLARIFY. ONLY TWO FORMS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE, THE VOLUNTARY POSITION FORM AND THE ADDENDUM. ONLY TWO FORMS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLETE AND THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE CLERK TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. SOME APPLICANTS PROVIDED A COVER LETTER, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT THEY HAD TO COMPLETE WAS A -- TO COMPLETE THE FORM WAS THE VOLUNTARY POSITION FORM AND THE ADDENDUM THAT SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED. THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FRONT AND BACK AND THERE IS WHERE WE ARE AT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S LOOK FOR ANOTHER DATE. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER DATE? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO DEFER YOUR VOTE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT, BUT THE NEXT AVAILABLE TIME YOU CAN DECIDE YOUR VOTE OR ANNOUNCE YOUR VOTE IS AT THE SEPTEMBER 14 EVENING MEETING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WOULD THAT BE -- WHEN IS THE 14th? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: ON MONDAY. >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO OFFENSE BUT YOU HEARD FROM FOUR DIFFERENT COUNCILMEN. SHOULD WE MAKE MOTION AND MAKE SURE THAT IS DECIDED ON. I AM EASY TO GO EITHER WAY BUT OTHER COUNCILPEOPLE WHO SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO VOTE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER. MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. SHELBY STHOLZ CLARIFY THE DATE OF THE 13th -- >>CAMARIA PETTIS-E 14th. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 14th IS A TUESDAY, IS IT NOT? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: 13th, I APOLOGIZE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPECIAL CALL AND USUALLY RESERVED ONLY FOR THE BUDGET AND UNLESS WE HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING CONSIDERING IT INVOLVES STATE LAW AND A VERY TIGHT SCRIPT, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO -- THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO UNLESS THE ADMINISTRATION IS AWARE OF IT AND AGREES TO THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHY? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: SET IT FOR 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON ON THAT DAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SIMPLE VOTE AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL INTERFERE WITH A BUDGET. >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SEPARATELY NOTICED AND STATUTORILY APPROVED -- FOR A BUDGET AND TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE AGENDA HAS NOT BEEN DONE UP TO THIS POINT. I SITTING HERE WILL NOT RECOMMEND IT UNLESS SOMEBODY FROM THE BUDGETFFICAND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS THAT IS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS I WOULD SAY NO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOLD ON A SECOND. MR. SHELBY, IF -- IF WE DECIDE TO DO THAT, AND DID IT AFTER THE BUDGET WAS HEARD, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE IN THAT LIGHT SIR? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IF YOU DO IT AT ALL YOU DO IT AS A SEPARATE SPECIAL CALL MEETING AND YOU DON'T DO IT FALLING ANYTHING YOU DO IT EARLIER THEN OR DO YOU IT THE FOLLOWING DAY. AND YOU CAN DO IT FIRST -- IF THE COUNCIL NAMEERS WILL AVAILABLE DO IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND GET IT OUT OF THE WAY OR WHATEVER IS BEST FOR COUNCIL. BUT I ASK COUNCIL THAT YOU DO NOT CONFLATE THIS WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, AS A CHAIRMAN. I WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION AND FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE IF THAT IS THE CASE, SIR. MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW MR. SHELBY'S OPINION AND MOVE FORWARD ON MONDAY ANYWAY. DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY, MARTIN, HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BEFORE THE 5:00 BUDGET MEETING? AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN MY MOTION WOULD BE EXACTLY T THAT, THAT WE -- THAT 4:45 -- THE VOTE IS GOING TO TAKE FIVE SECONDS. AT 4:45 OR 4:30, THAT WE -- THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE -- THAT WE HAVE THIS VOTE. >> YOU CAN DO THAT, THE RISK FOR THAT IS THE NOTICE FOR THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WILL NOT GO OUT UNTIL SOME TIME TOM TOMORROW. AND FRANKLY, THE NEXT MEETING THEN -- IT IS A FOLLOWING MONDAY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE FOLLOWING MONDAY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 13 IS A WEEK FROM -- THIS MONDAY. SO A NOTICE NORMALLY REQUIRES NO LESS THAN -- NO LESS THAN 24 HOURS, 48 HOURS IS ACCEPTABLE, 72 HOURS IS IDEAL. I SUSPECT YOU ARE -- YOU ARE CUTTING IT CLOSE IN TERMS OF NOTICE HOW QUICK WE CAN GET THAT NOTICE OUT AND POSTED FOR A MONDAY NIGHT, WHAT 4:00 MEETING OR 4:30 MEETING. IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SUGGEST SOMETHING IN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE DO IT I WILL SAY 4:00. >> I WILL AGREE MR. CHAIRMAN BASED ON. YOU HAVE 11 CANDIDATES AND KNIFE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDED, AND YOU MAY HAVE 10 VOTES TO GET THE -- TO GET THE FOUR VOTES FOR FIVE INDIVIDUALS. >> AND THEN, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SOME COUNCILMEMBERS DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO READ, AND YOU WANT TO BE FAIR TO ALL THE CANDIDATES AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THEIR INFORMATION. I THINK THAT -- I AM LEANING MORE, GENTLEMEN, TO GIVE THE 24-HOUR NOTICE, MR. SHELBY AND THEN COME BACK AT MONDAY AT 4:00 AND VOTE -- AND GIVE THE CITIZENS THOSE WHO APPLIED KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AND VETTED THE CANDIDATES AND THE CITIZENS KNOW WE DID THE RIGHT THING. >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS MAY BE UNPOPULAR. A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT. NOT THE INDIVIDUAL WHO DIDN'T RESPOND BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT. WOULD COUNCIL WANT TO GIVE THESE INDIVIDUALS TWO MINUTES TO PLEAD THEIR CASE ON MONDAY? >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: PROBABLY WANT TO START A LITTLE EARLIER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE THING THAT I WILL ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO DO INTERFERE WITH THE START OF THE 5:00 BUDGET HEARING. 5:01. >>LUIS VIERA: I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE COMFORT FUMBLE WE DID 3:00. MADAM DEPUTY CLERK IS SANG 3:00. EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE MONDAY AT 3:00? >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALREADY HAVE THREE APPOINTMENTS THAT I HAVE MEETING CITY HALL STARTING AT 1:30. GOING ON UNTIL 2:30. THEN 3:00. AND THEN -- I CAN CHANGE MY 4:00. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO 3:30? >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR. >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK IF WE BEGIN 4:00 LETTING TWO PEOPLE SPEAK TWO, THREE MINUTES AND -- WE SHOULD BE DONE 30 MINUTES. I THINK 30 MINUTES IS FINE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ONLY HAVE A FEW AND GIVE THOSE WHO DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. I BELIEVE WE CAN GET A VOTE IN BEFORE THE 5 -- 5:01 OR 5:00. >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5:01. >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE THE 5:01 SPECIAL CALL FOR THE BUDGET. ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMAN? >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, WE ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME. I WILL SECOND MR. DINGFELDER FOR 5:00 -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MARTY SAID WE CAN'T DO 5. >>JOSEPH CITRO: 4:00. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER MADE THE MOTION 4:00 SPECIAL CALLED FOR THE INTERVIEWS AND MR. CITRO SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT DID WE DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO INTERVIEW. ADVISE THE CLERK OF THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY NEED TO BE ON TIME AND READY TO GO AND IF THEY CAN'T MAKE IT, WE WILL GET AND MOVE THEM OUT VERY QUICKLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: VERY NICE OF YOU, MR. VIERA. >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS OUR ATTORNEY STILL THERE? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, I AM THERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, MA'AM? >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES, I WILL BE AVAILABLE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE SURE ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ALL THE TH WILL BE READY TO GO.XES SO >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I WILL TAKE CARE OF THATPER PERSONALLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 2. >> GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, SUSAN JON-VELEZ, ASSISTANT SENIOR ATTORNEY. ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION OF A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE PURSUANT TO 70.51. WE COMMONLY REFER TO AS THE FLYINGER STATUTE THIS IS A -- FLUEGER STATUTE. A CASE THAT WENT BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. IN RECENT PAST YOU HAVE SEEN THIS COME BEFORE NEW THE FORM OF A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WHEN WE REACH A MEDIATED SETTLEMENT. THIS CASE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REACH A MEDIATED AND HAD A HEARING BEFORE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND FOLLOWING THAT HEARING, THE MAGISTRATE FOUND AS DETAILED IN HIS REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DENIAL OF THE SUBJECT REZONING WAS NOT UNREASONABLE AND DID NOT UNFAIRLY BURDEN THE PROPERTY AND RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DENY REMAIN UNDISTURBED. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A RELATED RESOLUTION ASKING COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH ALL OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AND CLOSE OUT THIS MATTER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. MOTION TO MOVE, MR. CARLSON? >>BILL CARLSON: YES -- [INAUDIBLE] --O I NEED TO READ IT? WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS? OKAY. DINGFELDER DINGFELDER ARE WE ALLOWING SPEAKS ON THIS, MR. SHELBY? OR MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, SIR. >> THIS WOMAN IS REGISTERED FOR OPPOSITION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO? >>CLERK: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS YOU HEAR THEM. GUDES OKAY, WE WILL HEAR THEM. >> THIS IS PAMELA -- [INAUDIBLE] -- CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE THEY ON VIDEO? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU NEED YOUR CAMERA ON, MA'AM. >> THERE IT IS. PAMELA JO HADLEY AND I REPRESENT FRANK GAY. THE PROPERTY OWN. I DIDN'T REALIZE THIS WOULD BE A CONSENT ITEM. MR. GAY IS IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING. AND HE URGES COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMEL OF THE REZONING REMAIN UNDISTURBED. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR CLIENT WAS IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZO ZONING? >> THAT'S CORRECT. SO HE WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION TO LET THE -- ALLOW THE REZONING REMAIN EFFECT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OTHER QUESTION, MR. CHAIR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION BUT IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION IN LIGHT OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S SUGGESTION OR RECOMMENDATION? >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER. SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THE STATUTE REQUIRES COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION ON THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION BY EITHER ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION, MODIFYING IT OR REJECTING IT. THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, GIVEN THAT THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO NOT TO DISTURB YOUR PRIOR DECISION IS TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION. IN OTHER WORDS, THE DENIALS OF THE REZONING WOULD REMAIN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT DOES THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- IS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT CHIMING IN ON THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, SIR, WE ARE NOT. WE ARE PRESENTING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE WELCOME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >>CLERK: THAT WAS IT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO WE NEED TO MOVE TO CLOSE OR ANYTHING? >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MOVE. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND. >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE THE RESOLUTION. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>CLERK: DINGFELDER? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION TO ACCEPT THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION AND I VOTE YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. SOMEBODY OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEMS 3-10. >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO MOVED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>ORNDO DES: ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED. WE ARE NOW OPEN, GENTLEMAN. ITEM NUMBER 3. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN. SORRY, MR. CARLSON IS LEAVING BUT I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL IF THERE THIS HAS BEEN ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION OR ANY SITE ADVICE HITS THAT YOU DISCLOSE THEM DURING THE COURSE. HEARINGS OR AT THE START OF THE HEARING AND PRIOR TO YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHELBY, IN OPENG ME-MAS ABOUT AN HOUR AGO, I SAW A WHOLE SLING OF E-MAILS THAT SAID SOMETHING -- I DIDN'T EVEN OPEN THEM AND I DIDN'T READ THEM. THAT IS NOT TONIGHT? >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION -- MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO MY ATTENTION. YOU DID NOT READ THEM AND WOULD YOU NOT KNOW -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I SOUGHT HEADING AND THE HEADING SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BEACH PARK, BUT APPARENTLY MR. MANISCALCO IS INDICATING TO ME AND MR. CITRO INDICATE THAT IS NOT FONT. >>MARTIN SLBY: MY SUGGESTION WILL BE GENERALLY SPEAKING PLEASE DO NOT OPEN OR READ ANY E-MAILS THAT YOU RECEIVE OR COMMUNICATION US THAT RECEIVE OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT -- THAT WOULD HAVE TO THEN BE DISCLOSED AND MADE AVAILABLE TO A PETITIONER OR APPLICANT TO BE THE CAUSE OF A CONTINUANCE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: UNLESS THEY GET IN THE BOX. >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING IS THEY -- THEY REALLY -- AN APPLICANT UNDER THE LAW NEEDS TO KNOW EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE THEY GO INTO A HEARING BEO REBUT IT BEFORE YOUR VOTE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF -- IF ONCE THEY ARE IN THE QUASI JUDICIAL BOX THAT WE CALL IT. LONGER. PERHAPS 48 HOURS AGO. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 3. >> THANK YOU, ZANE HUSSEIN. MAY I BE SWORN IN WITH MY ST STAFF. >> DO YOU WEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. FIRST THING, ONE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 6 ON THE AGENDAAT 18600 AND 18700 HIGHWOODS PRESERVE PARKWAY. THEY ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO 11/18. >>MARTIN SHELBY: R. CHAIRMAN, MAY ANY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHA IS AVAILABLE IN THE 18th OF NOVEMBER OF SLOTTED CONTINUANCE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CLERK, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR THE 18 >>RYAN MANASSE: RYAN MANASSE. 12 CASES. TWO CONTINUED AND TEN REZONINGS. SO THIS WOULD BE A THIRD CONTINUED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: TOTAL OF 13, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ISN'T OUR LIMIT 11? >> 10 WITH THREE CONTINUED, S SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS ANOTHER DATE MR. MANASSE BESIDE THE 18th? >>RYAN MANASSE: 12/9 TOTAL OF TEN CASES, NINE REZONINGS AND ONE CPA, SO A TOTAL OF TEN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, ANY OBJECTIONS OF 12/9. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? >>CLERK: YES, HE IS. HE IS REGISTER. >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SUGGEST WE DISCUSS THAT WITH THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE BEFORE WE SET THE DATE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? >> IT WOULD BE CHRIS McNEIL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DON'T HAVE HIM UP YET. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHICH ITEM IS THIS? >>ORLANDO GUDES: NUMBER 6. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE HIM? >>CLERK: HE IS LOGGED ON. CHRI, IF YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA. >> OKAY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? GUDES WE CAN HEAR YOU BUT WE NEED YOUR CAMERA ON. >> OKAY. THERE WE GO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY, WE HAVE HIM. >> THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. McNEIL. WE ARE LOOKING AT DATES FOR YOUR CONTINUANCE AND THE 18th SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FULL AND LOOKING AT 12/9/21. >> YES, SIR, WE WOULD BE AVAILABLE THAT EVENING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO CONTINUE FOR 12/9/21. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN. WOULD WE DO THAT -- THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD DISCUSS ON COUNCIL. CAN WE DO THAT AT 5:01. THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR 5 5:01? GUDES GHOOUDZ IS FINE. MR. MIRANDA MOVED IT. MR. DINGFELDER SECONDED IT. ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED FOR 12/9/21. >MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REGISTERED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS. THIS ITEM IS NOW CONTINUED, SO THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO STAY ONLINE AND BE AVAILABLE. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NOTICE OF THE CONTINUANCE OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY THAT IT HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 9, 2021 AT 5:01 P.M. THANK YOU. GUDES THOSE FOLKS FOR ITEM NUMBER 6, CONTINUED TO 12/9/21 AT 5:01 P.M. ZANE, ANYTHING ELSE, SIR. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THAT'S IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER THREE. ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 3, SU 2-20-08 SPECIAL USE FOR A SCHOOL 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE. PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>DANNY COLLINS: HI, THIS IS DANNY COLLINS. MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE? CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN. NOT YET, WE CAN SEE YOU. MADAM CLERK. IS THAT ON OUR END OR HIS END? WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN. >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE WE WELLSWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION LOCATED HALF A MILE FROM THE SITE. THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT SITE ON NORTH ROME AVENUE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN A -- WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA. THIS SITE IS WITH EVACUATION ZONE A. THIS IS AN AERIAL MATCH THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE SURROUNDED BY PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH. AND IT ALONG THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER. THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE SITE UNDER THE PUBLIC, SEMIPUBLIC FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF ROME AVENUE, R-35 TO THE SITE OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS HAS BEEN AT THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE OF 1968 AS AN ESTABLISHED PIECE OF MMUNY FABRIC. THE SPECIAL USE 2 REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW PERFORMING IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE CAMPUS. AND THIS WILL NOT ADVERSELY EFFECT THE SURROUNDING SI SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES, TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL HAS DEMONSTRATED@ADEQUATE BUFFER AND SCREENING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE SOUTH WITH THE DRAINAGE BEING PROVIDED AS WELL. THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CAMPUS ALSO USED FOR PARKING AND OPEN SPACE PROVIDING A SENSITIVE TRANSITION TO THE SINGLE-FAMY DETACHED USES. WHILE THE CAMPUS IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY FABRIC, ENCOURAGES NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO BE ESSENTIAL AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE SPECIAL USE-2 REQUEST MEETS THIS POLICY CONSIDERATION. BASED ON THE CONSIDERATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS? THANK YOU, SIR. ZANE, YOU ARE UP. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. MAY I HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN? THANK YOU SO MUCH. SU-2-20-08. THE APPLICANT IS MARK BENTLEY. ADDRESS 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE. BEING PROPOSED FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY TO A SCHOOL SPECIAL USE. THE ONE WAIVER IS SECTION 27-FENCE HEIGHT FROM SIX FEET TO MAXIMUM OF EIGHT FEET. AS YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN, YOU SEE THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE PROPERTIES. YOU WILL SEE THE WEST CAMPUS HERE BEING PARCEL A. AND THE EAST CAMPUS BEING PARCEL B. IN PARCEL A, YOU WILL SEE THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND WHAT THES. >> HE WAS USE-2 IS FOR. PARSE HE WILL A 11.4 ACRES AND PARCEL B, 21.74 ACRES. PARCEL A IS SURROUNDED BY RS-60 ZONING ON ALL SIDES AND PARCEL B TO THE RIGHT HERE IS CONSISTING OF RS-60 ZONING AROUND THE SITE, MINUS TO THE SOUTH IS RM-24 AS YOU SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. RM-24. ACCESS TO THE SITE IS ALONG NORTH ROME AVENUE. GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF BOTH SITES. AS YOU SEE TO THE -- TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE WEST LOUISIANA AVENUE. TO THE SOURCE, YOU HAVE RIVER DRIVE AND WEST JOHNSON AVENUE. TO THE WEST YOU HAVE MULTIPLE -- NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AND ALSO AS DANNY SAID, THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER COMES OVER HERE TO THE EAST. AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, I COULDN'T ACCESS THE WHOLE ENTIRE SITE, BUT I GOT TO WHERE I COULD, ON PARCEL A, YOU WILL SEE THE FRONT ENTRANCE. AND BACK THERE IS THE -- THE NEW ADDITION. SITE, PARCEL B, YOU WILL SEE TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL STRUCTURE. AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY. TO THE WEST OF PARCEL B YOU WILL SEE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALL THROUGHOUT THE STREETS. TO THE NORTH OF PARCEL B AND EAST OF PARCEL A, YOU WILL SEE THAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG THE STREET ALSO. THEEVELMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA. AND THE CITY OF COUNCIL APPROVE, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. THANK YOU. I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPL APPLICANT. MR. BENTLEY. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET TAMPA 33602. I HAVE BEEN SWORN AND REPRESENT THE DIOCESE OF ST. PETERSBURG AND TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL AND AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MULTIMEDIA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER LOCATED ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE CAMPUS ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROME. THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 36,500 SQUARE FEET, AND WOULD REPLACE THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING THAT CONSISTS OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THE NET INCREASE WOULD BE 27,000 SQUARE FEET MORE OR L LESS. IT IS IMPORTANT NOTE THAT THERE IS A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS AND THIS CAP WILL BE MAINTAINED. A TOTAL OF 900 STUDENTS. THIS ONE CHANGE IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PERMIT. THE TYPICAL ENROLLMENT AT TC IS 2700 AND THIS SEMESTER 728. THE PURPOSE OF THE NEW PWLVTION ALLOW THE BUILDING TO ASSEMBLE AT ONE LOCATION FOR HOLY MASS AND SCHOOL FUNCTIONS NOW CONDUCTED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAMPUS IN THE GYMNASIUM. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEIR MISSION. THE NEW BUILDING WILL INCLUDE OFFICES, MEDIA AND ARTROOMS WITH WITH NO INCREASE THE ENROLLMENT NO ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OR PARKING DEVELOPMENTS. IN FACT 171 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND TC PROVIDES 353. THERE WOULD BE SPECIAL EVENTS AT THE SCHOOL SUCH AS PLAYS AND PERFORMANCES AND THE PRINCIPAL ROBERT L HISTORICALLY THESE EVENTS DRAW 250 PERSONS. IN TERMS OF GENERAL REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNDER CHAPTER 27, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE APPLICATION MEETS THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE AND SPECIFIC CRITERIA PERTAINING TO SCHOOLS. PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF -- YOU HEARD FROM DANNY -- THEY FOUND IT AND I QUOTE COMPATIBLE -- COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND CONSISTENT ABOUT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IF WOULD YOU LIKE -- AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT IS GOING ON AT RAYMOND JAMES TONIGHT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD GO THROUGH THE STANDARDS ONE BY ONE. I THINK THE STAFF HAS COVERED IT AS WELL UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE -- QUALIFYING FOR THOSE STANDARDS. SO IN SUMMARY, THE CITY STAFF FINDS THE APPLICATION COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH SOME MINOR REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND SECOND READING. THERE WILL NOBODY INCREASE IN ENROLLMENT OR ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC GENERED BY THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING. PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE APPLICATION CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN. AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THOSE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BENTLEY OR THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? MOVING ON, MOVE CONTINUE TO ANYBODY ELSE. ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM? >> AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN SWORN IN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT IS NOT -- I COULD DO THIS ON REBUTTAL, I GUESS. I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU ACTUALLY THE FACILITY AND THE LOCATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE DONE, MR. BENNETT -- -- MR. BENTLEY. IF YOU NEED TIME -- >> JUST TAKE TEN SECONDS. I SHOULD HAVE GONE OVER THIS FOR YOU. ON THE ELMO, HERE IS A PICTURE, A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. MIGHT BE UP TO 40, 42 FEET IN HEIGHT. AND I SIMPLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU AND I WASN'T SURE IF YOU CAUGHT THAT. THE EXISTING BUILDING GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED WHERE I AM POINTING RIGHT NOW 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE NEW CENTER WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT THERE. THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL -- >> GOOD EVENING, ROBERT LEE, THE PRESIDENT OF TAMPA CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME IN CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST THIS EVENING. I WANT TO SAY THREE QUICK POINTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. MR. BENTLEY INDICATED FIRST AND FOREMOST THAT OUR STUDENT POPULATION IS STATIC AND THIS PROJECT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INCREASING ANY TRAFFIC OR STUDENT INCREASE IN POPULATION. FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AS PRINCIPAL, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS -- IS IMPROVING STUDENT SAFETY. AS HE MENTIONED WE GATHER AS A SCHOOL COMMUNITY FOR MASS AND ASSEMBLIES AND OTHER THINGS CURRENTLY IN R GYASIU ON THE EAST SIDE OF CAMPUS REQUIRING US TO GO ROME AVENUE AS A STUDENT BODY 738 OF US AND THIS WILL ELIMINATE SAFETY CONCERN SOMETHING WE HAVE DONE AND WILL BE AN ADDED BENEFIT TO OUR CAMPUS. AS OUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN AROUND THIS AREA SINCE 1962, WE ARE IN THE PRO PROCESS OF UPGRADING FACILITIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW -- NEARLY 60 YEARS OLD. THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD UPGRADE -- SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY IMPROVING OUR FACILITIESND ALSO IMPROVING THEETS SHE ISICS OF THE -ETS THEMICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY DEMOING OLD BUILDINGS AND IMPROVING FUNCTIONAL BUILDINGS AND BRINGING A GREATER SENSE OF BEAUTY TO THE COMMUNITY. THNKS, AGAIN, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY WITH YOU, MR. BENTLEY OR IS THAT IS IT? >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. BENTLEY, IS THAT IT FOR YOUR FOLKS? >>LANDO GUDES: MISS EILEEN.U. YOU CAN BRING THOSE OTHER FOLKS ON DOWN, PLEASE. >> THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK. THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS? OKAY. LAUGH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON LINE FOR THIS ITEM, MAD DAMN DAM CLERK? >>CLERK: WE DID HAVE TWO REGISTERED KAREN PATTERSON DID NOT LOG ON. KEITH DIAZ DID LOG ON BUT ON A MOBILE DEVICE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, POLICE AILEEN. >> I AM VERY SORRY BUT ONE PERSON. >>ORLANDO GUDES: BRING THEM TO THE PODIUM, THE LECTERN. >> HI. MY NAME IS KAREN PATTERSON AND I LIVE AT 1510 PARK LANE WHICH ABUTS THE EAST PORTION OF THE CAMPUS. AND THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING OF A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. I THINK IT WILL BE ANS A SIT TO THE SCHOOL. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH, BECAUSE IF IT IS 36,500 SQUARE FEET, AND THEY ARE ONLY EX EXPECTING TO DRAW 250 PEOPLE TO EVENTS WHEN THEY HAVE OVER 700 STUDENTS, I KIND OF FIND THAT LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. ONE OF MY CONCERNS -- AND I DID SEND LETTERS TO CITY COUNCIL -- WAS THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE ON MY STREET, THERE ARE THREE STR STREETS, RIVER LANE, PARK LANE, AND RIVER SHORE WAY. THERE ARE 111 HOMES WITH ONE EXIT ON TO ROME AVENUE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE EXIT TO THE PARKING LOT. DISMISSAL AND AT DROP-OFF AT THE MORNING. IT CREATES A HAZARD FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES GETTING OUT OF OUR THREE STREETS. WHAT THEY FAILED TO LOOK AT IS PU PUTTING AN EXIT TO THE PARKING LOT ON TO WISHART AVENUE. TAMPA CATHOLIC IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROME AND W WISHART. ON THE WISHART SIDE, THERE ARE THREE STREETS AS WELL, DARBY, MENDENHALL AND EL PASO. THOSE THREE STREETS DON'T HAVE 111 HOUSES ON THE FIRST BLOCK OF THOSE THREE STREETS. THERE ARE ONLY 37 HOMES. AND ALL OF THOSE THREE STREETS HAVE AN ALTERNATE EXIT. WE ONLY HAVE ONE EXIT ON ROME AVENUE. SO ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT THE DIOCESE OF ST. PETERSBURG, CITY COUNCIL, AND TAMPA CATHOLIC RECONSIDER THE TRAFFIC AND THE EXITING OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THOSE PARKING LOTS. AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE COMMENTS. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR NO? >>ORLANDO GUDES: DOES SHE STILL HAVE TIME, MADAM CLERK? >> HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES IT SEAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL THE AUDITORIUM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE MR. BENTLEY CAN ANSWER THAT IN REBUTTAL. ANYBODY ELSE READY TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, MISS AILEEN? DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED? >> NO ONE ELSE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ORLAO GUS: MR. BENTLEY. >> IF THE PRIOR SPEAKER CAN RETURN TO HER SEAT AND WATCH IT ON THE SCREEN, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. >> IT IS GETTING PRETTY CRAMPED IN HERE. BUT -- JUST TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THESE POINTS. THE ENROLLMENT HERE AGAIN HAVEN'T CHANGED. IT IS STILL CAPPED BUT NOTHING WITH RESPECT TO TRANSPORTATION IPACTS IS GOING TO CHANGE. THE CAPACITY FOR THE NEW PERFORMING ARTS FACILITY IS 735 FIXED SEATS. AS I MTION THETUDENT POPULATION IS 750 MORE OR LESS. FOR MONTHLY MASS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, CERTAIN SCHOOL EVENTS, THERE WOULD BE CAP CAPACITY. WHAT I MEANT TO SAY IS WHEN THEY HAVE A PLAY OR, LIKE A BAND PERFORMANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY GENERALLY DRAW ABOUT 250 PEOPLE FOR A SPECIAL EVENT. I THINK YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED E-MAILS FROM TRANSPORTATION AND YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT THAT IS A RESULT OF THE DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS BEING APPROVED BY THE CITY AND THEY ARE NOT BEING ANY SUBSNTIACHANGE TO THE CAMPUS IS THAT THE DRIVEWAYS ARE PERMITTED TO BE LOCATED IN THEIR PRESENT LOCATION AND WE HAVE HIRED A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND HE EVALUATED THE CIRCULATION AND MOVEMENT OUT THERE THE WAY IT IS HANDLED AND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, NOT REALLY ANY PROBLEM. HE IS HERE IF YOU WANTS TO ASK HIM IN ANY QUESTIONS. MICHAEL YATES. THAT IS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT. NOTHING REALLY CHANGED. WE JUST ADDED THE NEW BUILDING. NO MORE STUDENTS. WE WOULD CONSIDER YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TONIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYUES QUESTIONS. MR. MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH REGARD TO THE SPEAK THEIR WAS UP HERE. WAS THAT IN REGARD TO THE P PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO. THE CAR LINE ON ROME AND W WISHART AND ALL THAT? >> OKAY. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DROP-OFF AND DISMISSAL, BUTITH E PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE FUNCTIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELD, THE GYMNASIUM BEING IN USE. THAT IS WHERE SCHOOL FUNCTIONS ARE GOING TO BE HELD. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE EXIT FROM THE PARKING LOT ON TO WISHAR T AVENUE. WHEN THERE IS ONLY 37 HOUSES ON THE FIRST THREE BLOCKS. AND THEY ALL HAVE ALTERNATE EXITS FOR THE RESIDENTS OR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO USE. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE FOUR ENTRANCES AND EXITS TO TAMPA CATHOLIC ON ROME AVENUE. AND AGAIN, I SAID THERE IS 111 HOUSES WITH ONE EXIT ON TO ROME AVENUE. AND FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THEY PLAN THE THREE EXITS FROM THE WEST CAMPUS. IT WAS VERY MOORE PLANNING BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WAS ACROSS THSTRE FROM RIVER SHOREHORE WAY. THE PEOPLE THAT EXIT TAMPA CATHOLIC DON'T REALIZE THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET HAVE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEFORE PEOPLE IN A PARKING LOT. SO I CHALLENGE ALL TO COME AND TRY IT YOURSELF. SOME DAY AT DISMISSAL OR SOME DAY WHEN THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT AND THEY PARK CARS ALL IN THERE AT NIGHT FOR FOOTBALL GAMES AND WHAT ELSE, ARE, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT IS A SAFETY CONCERN AND UTTER DISRESPECT FOR PEOPLE ON THE THREE STREETS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID THAT ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN, . MANISCAL. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH. IS THE SCHOOL TAKING ANY ACTION ON -- ON MEDIATING THAT? NOW THAT -- >> YEAH, MR. MANISCALCO. I CAN'T SEE WHERE YOU ARE -- >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM A GHOST. >> 200 STUDENTS WHO DRIVE TO SCHOOL AND SENIORS AND JUNIORS, 70% STAY FOR ATHLETICS AND ACTIVITIES. AND SCHOOL RECEIVED ONE COMPLAINT AND A RAMP-UP WITH PARENTS AND ONCE THEY LEARN THE SYSTEM THEY OPERATE VERY SMOOTHLY. BELIEVE ME. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. THERE IS 178th TENTH-GRADER AND 25% OF THE SCHOOL POPULATION AND THEY USE WISHART EXCLUSIVELY AND THE NINTH GRADE PRETTY MUCH USES THE ROME. EXCUSE ME? MISS PATTERSON IS TALKING INY EAR AND KIND OF DISTRACTING. I KNOW THAT MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ IS PARTICIPATING IN THE HEARING AND SHE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE OF THE DRIVEWAYS BEING VESTED. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP MICHAEL YATES, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND GIVE A THUMBNAIL SKETCH AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ANALYZING THE CIRCULATION -- IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TO INDULGE ME ONE MINUTE, MR. CHAIRMAN. MIKE, WILL YOU GO OVER IT, PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, MICHAEL YATES. I HAVE BEEN SWORN. DO YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN? >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON THE MONITOR AS SOON AS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY SEE IT NOW SIR. >> GUILT QUICKLY THE SITE CIRCULATION AND HOW IT FUN FUNCTIONS TODAY. I WENT OUT THERE AND DID OBSERVATIONS DURING BOTH DISMISSAL AND DROP-OFF. AND I CAN GO THROUGH ALL THOSE OPERATIONS WITH YOU. THIS IS THE DROP-OFF ON WISHART. THEY COME IN -- THIS IS FOR TENTH GRADE. THEY COME IN HERE AND EXIT HERE. THIS IS THE EXISTING SIGNAL AT ROME AND WISHART. THIS IS THE ENTRY FOR THE SCHOOL. THEY HAVE THREE LANES FOR DROP-OFF. BASICALLY THEY DROP-OFF AT THE TWO AND THE SENDER ONE TO -- CENTER ONE TO BYPASS. THEY ENTER AND THIS IS THE EXIT ONLY AND THIS IS THE GATED ACCESS. THIS IS THE EXIT ONLY THAT ALIGNS WITH THE RIVER SHORE W WAY. WHICH THE LADY SPOKE TO EARLIER, BUT IT IS REALLY DESIGNED TO EMPTY ONLY THIS PARKING LOT WHERE HALF OF THE SENIORS PARK. THE REMAINING -- EVERYBODY ELSE WHO PICKS UP AND DROPS OFF EX-IN ITS THIS LOCATION. AND THERE IS ALSO A PARKING AT THE GYMNASIUM FACILITY AND THEY EXIT TO THE SOUTH. WHAT WE DID OBSERVATIONS DURING THE DROP-OFF AND PICKUP, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE OBSERVED IS RING THE DISMISSAL TIMES, THERE WAS NO MORE THAN ONE CAR IN QUEUE DURING THE ENTIRE DISMISSAL. THERE WAS REALLY NO DELAY AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING LOT WAS EMPTY WITHIN FIVE MINUTES OF THE 3:00 DISMISSAL. SO BY 3:05, THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING LOT WAS EMPTIED. NO DELAY EXPERIENCED TO THE PEOPLE LEAVING RIVER SHORE WAY. DURING THE MORNING, WE HAD JUST MINOR QUEUEING THAT OCCURRED A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT QUEUED THROUGH HERE. IT TAKES ABOUT SEVEN CARS TO QUEUE UP TO RIVER SHORE WAY FROM THE ENTRY HERE. AND IT JUST OCCURRED FOR THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS 7:52, ONE AT 8:01 AND ONE AT 8:02, BUT LESS THAN 30 SECONDS OF QUEUEING AND THE RIVER SHORE WAY NEVER HAD MORE THAN TWO CARS IN QUEUE, AND THEY WERE BOTH ABLE TO LEAVE WITHIN 45 SECONDS OF ARRIVAL AT THE STOP SIGN. I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, BUT WE DID LOOK AT IT, MADE SURE THAT OPERATING CORRECTLY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMEN? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN. BEING NO MORE QUESTIONS. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES MR. BENTLEY HAVE ANY FINAL COM COMMENTS? >> NO, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND THESE KIDS WANT TO GET OUT THERE AND OPERATE WITH THE SPEED AND OF THE MARINE BATTALION. I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS IN THE MARINES FOR A WHILE. OPERATES VERY SMOOTHLY. I WAS IMPRESSED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MR. MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A SCHOOL IN A RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4626, 4630, 4601 AND 4611 NORTH ROME AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF; PROVIDING A AN HE CAN FIVE DATE. THERE WAS ONE WAIVER. AND THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN BY THE ENGINEERING REPORTS, THE VERBAL REPORT, SITE PLAN, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING IS IN ORDER. THAT'S IT. >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CAREE $UNANIMOUSLY SECONDREADING AND ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M. >> THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ITEM NUMBER 4. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HERE. AGENDA NUMBER 4, SU 2-21-04, A SPECIAL USE OF DRIVE IN WINDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SORRY, FIRE ENGINES -- CAN WE HAVE VOLUME BECAUSE WE COULDN'T HEAR A THING. TRY IT AGAIN, ZANE. >>ZANE HUSAIN: NO PROBLEM. ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, CASE S SU2-21-04. REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE-2 FOR DRIVE IN WDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD. DANNY COLLINS ON THE LINE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. DANNY? >>DANNY COLLINS: HI, CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOMEBODY MUTE THEIR -- >> SOMEBODY IS WATCHING TV. >>DANNY COLLINS: WITH YOU SEE THE SCREEN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE GOT YOUR SCREEN. >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY G COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE. IN TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS AND MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE RICHMOND PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEAREST TRANSIT STOP IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CORNER OF BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND MADONNA MICHELLE DRIVE. BRUCE B. DOWNS CORRIDOR AND SUBJECT SITE IN NOT IN AN EVACUATION ZONE. AN AERIAL OF THE SURROUING SITE AND PROPERTIES. BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD. COMMERCIAL USES ARE PRESENT ALONG THIS PORTION OF BRUCE B. DOWNS. HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED UNDER THE COMMUNITY 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. C 35 IS FOUND ALL ALONG BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD. ASSESSMENT AND CHARACTER. AREA, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS DEVELOPNT PATTERN. THE SUBJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO THREE COMMERCIAL USES, WITH TWO BEING RESTAURANTS AND ONE BEING A BANK TO THE SOUTH. ALL THREE OF THOSE HAD -- CURRENTLY HAVE DRIVE-THRU WINDOWS. THE PROPOSED DRIVE-IN WINDOW WILL BE COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. THE REQUESTED IMPLEMENTS THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION POLICIES WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CONSISTENT WITH THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE CC-35 DESIGNATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE RESTAURANT AND PROVIDE A BIKE RACK ON THE SITE PLAN. BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CLONE CLOUDS MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS? HEARING NONE. ZANE? >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. I WILL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN, CASE SU 2-21-04. THE APPLICANT IS DAVID MEC MECHANIK. BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO DRIVE-IN WINDOW. NO PROPOSED WAIVERS HERE. AS YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY VIEW, YOU SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED. PROPOSED SPECIAL USE CONTAINS 1.95 ACRE AND CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY CONVENIENCE STORES AND GAS PUMPS WHERE THE CURSOR IS. LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF BRUCE B. DOWNS AND ALSO NORTH PALMS VILLAGE PLACE INTERSECTION. THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT HAS ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS THROUGH NORTH PALM VILLAGE PLACE. OVERHEAD LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN OF WHAT IS EXISTING. AND ALSO SHOWING THE PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH ADDITION RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS AS I WENT OUT TO THEITE, SHOW YOU THE CONVENIENCE STORE HERE AS YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT. TO THE WEST OF THE SITE YOU HAVE A CHICK-FIL-A AND OTHER FOOD. AND SUPERMARKET, ALDI'S, RIGHT TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE ACROSS BRUCE B. DOWNS. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPROVED THE PETITION AND THE REQUEST IS FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. OULDE THE PRESSURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE THE WAIVERS AND APPLICATION. FURTHER MODIFICATION OF THE SITE PLAN MUST BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. NO WAIVERS ON FILE. I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. GUDES THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCI COUNCILMEMBERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OTHE APPLICANT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN, DAVID? >> NO, ACTUALLY I HAVE NOT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU HAVE ANY FOLKS WITH YOU? >> YES, I DO, ELIZABETH RODRIGUEZ A, A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER AND ROBBIE A, WHO, THE ENGINEER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF THEY CAN COME UP ON THE SCREENS, WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN TOO. WE HAVE GOT ELIZABETH AND WHO ELSE? >>CLERK: ROBBIE DID NOT LOG ON. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ROBBIE DID NOT LOG ON. >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TR TRUTH. >> I DO. >>CLERK: THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARRY ON. >> THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER. THE STAFF DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF DESCRIBING THIS REQUEST. I WILL JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. THE ONLY THING WE ARE ASKING TONIGHT I I ADDITION OF A DRIVE-THRU WINDOW. THE CONVENIENT STORE WITH GAS PUMPS HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE ACCESS OR TO THE SITE LAYOUT OTHER THAN TO ADD THE DRIVE-THRU LANE WHICH QUEUES TO THE BACK AND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE AGREE WITH ALL THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED TO BE MADE ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THE STAFF FOUND THE APPLICATION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOMMENDED IT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE ASKED FOR NO WAIVERS. I WILL JUST BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE STANDARDS THAT AN APPLICANT MUST ADDRESS IN ITS APPLICATION. THESE ARE FOUND ON PAGE 3 AND PAGE 4 OF THE STAFF REPORT. THESE STANDARDS ALL RELATE TO THE USE, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED. AND IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE USE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS P PUMPS. THE ONLY CHANGE BEING THAT WE WILL ADD THE DRIVE-THRU WINDOW. THE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT THE ADDITION OF THE DRIVE-THRU WINDOW HAS A NOMINAL IMPACT AND THEREFORE OUR PROPOSAL MEETS ALL OTHE STANDARDS THAT ARE LISTED ON PAGE 3 AND 4. AND, AGAIN, I THINK YOUR STAFF HAS ALSO CONCLUDED THAT WE MET THOSE STANDARDS. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MECHANIK, THE APPL APPLICANT? MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. MECHANIK, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANYONE YOU NOTICED OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IF THERE IS ONE? >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING FROM ANYONE. AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED ONLL SIDES BY COMMERCIAL USES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> SO WE WOULD NOT BE EXPECTING A NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT? >> MAY I, MR. CHAIR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS, MR. MECHANIK. DRIVE-THRU OF THE GAS STATION THAT IS THERE NEXT TO THE CHICK-FIL-A. >> YES, SIR. >>LUIS VIERA: OUT OF CURIOSITY AND A CLEAR REPORT FROM PLANNING AND CITY OF TAMPA. WHAT IS THE DRIVE-THRU GOING TO BE FOR? WHAT -- >> RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSED TENANT IS A GOURMET COFFEE ESTABLISHMENT. SO IT WILL -- IT WILL BE SIMPLY ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO STOP AND FUEL UP BEFORE THEY HAVE TO HEAD ON THE ROAD FOR WORK. >>LUIS VIERA: COOL. THANK YOU, SIR, APPRECIATE IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT? ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SECOND FLOOR? >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. NO ONE IS HERE. >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR. OPPOSED. MR. CITRO AND MR. CARLSON. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE SU 2-21-04, ORDINANCE OF FIRST READING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A DRIVE-IN WINDOW OR RESTAURANT DRIVE IN WINDOW IN A PD-A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 17519 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREPROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AND ADOPTIOON SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, ITEM NUMBER 5. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-20-86, YOU REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD FROM A PD TO PD COMMERCIAL O OFF-STREET PARKING OR BUS BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN? CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN, SIR. >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VIL VILLAGE. THE CLOSEST PUBLIC PARK IS BEING LOCATED HALF MILE TO THE SITE. LOCATED TWO BLOCKS TO THE EAST OF THE SITE AND N. ARMENIA AVENUE. THE SUBJECTED SITE IS IN LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE. AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD. AND JUST -- JUST TO THE EAST OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE. YOU WILL SEE THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ARE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER. HERE IS THE -- HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE ST. LOUIS MAP. THE SUBJECT SITE -- LAND USE MAP, THE SUBJECT SITE IS UNDER THE FUTURE LANDS USE. AND RESIDENTIAL 20 IS FOUND ALONG THIS PORTION OF WEST TAMPA BAY AND TO THE NORTH IN THIS TAN COLOR RESIDENTIAL-10. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. BOTH OPTIONS BEING PRESENTED TODAY WOULD BE TO DEVELOP IN A MAN THEIR IS SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. BOTH OPTIONS SUPPORT THE NETWORK OF BIKE FACILIES ON THE SITE PLAN. OPTION TWO IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMERCIALAL CRITERIA FOR COMMERCIAL USES AS DESCRIBED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND QUINT THE INTENSITY UNDER THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. UNDER OPTION TWO, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING JUST UNDER 1500 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY CONNECTING PEDESTRIAN TO THE ENTRY OF THE BUILDING BUT NOT CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD. TO HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH ENCOURAGING BUILDING ENTRANCES TO CONNECT TO PUBLIC SIDEWALKS. PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WILL STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT CONNECT THE TO THE SIDEWALK. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COL SNNS ALL RIGHT, ZANE. >>ZANE HUSAIN: ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT CODINAON. CASE REZ 20-86. THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS STEVEN MICHELINI. AND THE PROPERTY IS 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD. REQUEST FROM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE BUS BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING. ONE WAIVER THAT IS REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER FROM 15 FEET WITH MASONRY WALL WITH SIX-FT PVC FENCE. AND NOW TWO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE. TWO OPTIONS. AS OF SECTION 27-284.3.3. OPTION ONE, TO REDUCE THE LANDSCAPE AREA BUFFER FROM SIX FOOT TO NINE FEET WITH PVC FENCE. FROM 15 FEET WITH SIX-FOOT MASONRY WITH FIVE FEET WITH S SIX-FOOT PVC. OPTION TWO, REDUCE LANDSCAPE BEFORE FROM 15 FEET TO SIX-FOOT PVC. AND SIX FEET MASONRY WITH THREE FEET AND SIX-FOOT MASONRY WALL. AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE AERIAL VIEW PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE IN RED, YOU WILL SEE TO THE -- TO THE WEST, YOU WILL SEE THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS. YOU HAVE OPTION A -- SORRY, OPTION 1 AND OPTION 2. OPTION 2 HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AS HE WAS SAYING. AND OPTN 1 BEING PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. OPTION 1 IS FOR THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING HERE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE WEST SIDE. AND THEN OPTION 2 IS FOR THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE HERE THAT IS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THE PROPOSED USE OF THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARK ALSO HAVE THE COMMERCIAL USE TO THE WEST HERE. AND ALSO BOTH OPTIONS ARE FOR VEHICULAR ENTRY TO THE SOUTH TO THE SITE OF THE WEST TAMPA BAY ULEVARD TO THE SOUTH. THE TOTAL LOT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 5300 SQUARE FEET AND IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, EAST SIDE OF NORTH HABANA AVENUE AND WEST OF NORTH TAM PAIN I CAN'T AVENUE. AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE. AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEAT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT, THE CAFE. AND TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE. FURTHER MO MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE NEEDED. GUDES ANY QUESTIONS? HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. STEVE MICHELIN. THIS PROPERTY IS -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM SORRY? >> IF YOU WILL LOOK AT YOUR OVERHEAD. THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE -- WITH THE RED DOT IN IT. AND IT PREVIOUSLY WAS APPROVED FOR A BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE THAT ZANE POINTED OUT TO YOU. THE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL OFFSTREET PARKING WHICH PRINCIPALLY WILL SERVE THE RESTAURANT HERE. IT PREVIOUSLY IN THE PAST -- RECENT PAST HAD BEEN USED AS PARKING LOT, BUT UPON INVESTIGATION, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE PD THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS DID NOT ALLOW FOR PARKING. AND THE PD WHICH IS BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL AND ADD OFF-STREET WORKING AS A PERMITTED USE. IT WILL PROVIDE NINE PARKING SPACES AND ONE A. D. A. SPACE. THEO OFFICE BUILDING WILL BE 1492 SQUARE FEET AND 30 FEET AND TWO STORIES, BUT THE REAL FOCUS HERE IS TO PROVIDE LEGAL OFF STREET PARKING FOR A RESTAURANT. IF YOU CAN SEE THE CARS THAT ARE LINED UP HERE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BACK IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE LEGAL PARKING SPACES ACCORDING TO THE CODE AND THIS WILL ALLOW THE OFF-STREET PARKING TO RELIEVE SOD ALSO PROVIDE FOR LEGAL SPACES THAT WOULD BE OFFSITE. THE COMMERCIAL PARKING MUST BE ADJACENT TO AND NOT SEPARATED FROM THE STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA. IT ALSO MUST BE LOCATED AS AN COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR THAT DISTRICT AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA THE PARKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE OF THE SITE AND NOT ADVERSE IMPACT THAT MEETS THAT CRITERIA. COMMERCIAL PARKING SCREENED FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES AND WE ARE PROPOSING SCREENING AS ZANE HAS POINTED OUT. YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE UNIQUE CONDITIONS. A LOT OF THESE SMALLER RESTAURANTS ARE IN A CONGESTED AREA AND WILL HELP TO RESOLVE THAT CONDITION. AND PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUBSTANTIAL USE OF THE LAND. IN PARCEL HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND MEETLY ADJACENT TO -- IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RESTAURANT AND WILL REDUCE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF CARS BACKING INTO THE ROADWAY. WILL NOT ELIMINATE ENTIRELY BUT ENCOURAGE THAT. AND PROMOTE FOR CHARACTER AND MEETS THAT CRITERIA. PROMOTE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AN ELEMENTS THAT CONTAIN THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PD FOR PROFESSIONAL AND PROVIDES FOR THE PARKING OF THAT BUILDING IF IT WAS EVER DEVELOPED. THE DESIGN IS UNIQUE AND IN THESE WAIVERS, THIS IS A RELATIVELY SMALL SITE AS THE STAFF HAS POINTED OUT 5300 SQUARE FEET. AND SO THERE ARE UNIQUE CONDITIONS THAT REALLY ARE THE NEED OF THE WAIVER. AND THOSE OF HOW HAVE BEEN AT THIS LOCATION RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT CARS ARE PARKING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. AND NOT AL. THE WAIVER IS IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE GENERAL INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER AND PROVIDE SOME RELIEF FOR VIABLE BUILDING AND ALLOW THE WAIVER OF SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE WILL BE DONE. THE STAFF OF THE CITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE FOUND CONSISTENT AND WE ARE APPROXIMATELY TO MAKE CHANGES AS REQUESTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ GOING THE COUNCIL ACCEPT AND APPROVE THIS ON FIRST READING. AND WE WILL RESPECTFULLY REEST UR APPROVAL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTION FROM THE APPLICANT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, BETWEEN OPTION ONE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR TWO OPTIONS. >> THE EXISTING PD IS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO VEST THAT. AND THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING. WE HAD TO IDENTIFY BOTH OPTIONS AND WE HAD TO SHOW ON-SITE PLANS HOW BOTH OF THOSE OPTIONS WOULD FUNCTION. YOU HAVE TWO SITE PLANS. ONE SHOWS THE COMMERCIAL O OFF-STREET PARKING AND ONE SHOWS THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHICH IS THE ONE YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD? >> WE ARE ASKING TO ADD THEM SO THAT BOTH WILL BE ALLOWED. OBVIOUSLY THE COMMERCIAL O OFF-STREET PARK WOOING GO AWAY IF THE BUILDING WAS EVER DEVELOPED. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO ADD THE COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MIRANDA. I HEARD YOUR QUESTION. AND MR. -- >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM LOOKING AT ONE -- THEY WANT TO HAVE PARKING BUT TY WA TO MAKE IT SO IN CASE THE PARKING GOES AWAY THEY CAN BUILD A BUILDING IN THE BACK, AM I CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. UNDER OPTION ONE IS THE COMMERCIAL OFFSTREET PARK WIG WE ARE TRYING ADD AS A PERMITTED USE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CORRECT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE ACH? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAKN THIS ITEM? >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK. GUDES ANYONE REGISTERED. >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS. GUDES MR. DINGFELDER HAS A QUESTION.. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THIS IS A QUESTION -- SORT OF A QUESTION AND A COMMENT FOR SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZND M SHELBY. A YEAR AGO WE HAD THIS ISSUE AND -- STEVEN, DON'T GET UPTIGHT, I AM TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS ADDITIONAL PARKING AREA. BUT ON A LEGAL TECHNICAL BASIS, MR. SHELBY, THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF OF THE CASE, STAFF REPORT INDICATED THAT THE PRIOR WAIVER WAS VESTED IN THIS NEW APPLICATION. IS THAT ISSUE HAS COME BUT A YEAR AGO MISS WELLS AND I SORT OF DISAGREE ON THIS BUT PLAN TO CIRCLE BACK AND TALK ABOUT THIS AT A FUTURE DATE. MR. SHELBY, I WANT TO PUT A BOOKMARK ON THIS AS A FUTURE LEGAL ISSUE. BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY -- I AM NOT WHOLLY CONVINCED THAT PRIOR WAIVERS SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY VESTED FOR NEW PDs. AGAIN, MR. MICHELINI, TOTALLY A SIDE ISSUE. I AM COMPLETELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. AND I WOULDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR AN ANSWER FROMR. SHELBY SO REALLY NOT EVEN A QUESTION BUT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT DOWN THE ROAD SHE WILL SHELBY I WILL PUT -- >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT PUT IT INTO THE FILE OF THINGS TO BRING BACK FOR THE DISCUSSION. MOTION TO CLOSE BY MR. MANISCALCO. SECONDED BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED. >>JOSEPH CITRO: REZ 20-86 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING AND CONSID CONSIDERION. DINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2715 WEST TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED SECTION 1 OF ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, OFFICE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OR COMMERCIAL, O OFF-STREET PARKING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE ALONG WITH THE WAIVERS. VERY VISIONS WILL BE MADE BETWEEN -- REVISIONS WILL BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEAND E DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-137 OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER AND CAPABILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA HAS SECONDED. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. SECOND READING AN AN SEPTEMBER 30, 9:30. >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAKEN CARE OF ITEM NUMBER 6 EARLIER. ITEM NUMBER 7. >>ZANE HUSAIN: ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ- REZ-21-56. AT APPLICANT IS DEMETRIUS MILLER. WEST FRANCES AVENUE, 301 WEST FRANCES AVENUE. REZONING FROM RM-16 TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. GO TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>DANNY COLLINS: I AM DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE. THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS ROBERT C. GARDENER PARK LOCATED A QUARTER MILE TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS A QUARTER MILE TO THE NORTH OF NORTH O AVEE AND YOU WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT IN AN EVACUATION ZONE. AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SURROUNDING SITE AND YOU SEE IT OUTLINED IN THE PURPLE COLOR IN NORTH OLAA AND WEST FRANCES AVENUE. BY THE RESIDENTIAL USES SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE. HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35 LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SURROUNDED ALL SIDES TO THE WEST SIDE OF NORTH OLA AVENUE IS OUR PARCELS RECOGNIZE UNDER THE CMU-35 DESIGNATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND NO AVERSION IMPACTS AND PROMOTE DENSITY TO 21 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS 60% OF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY TO BE CONSIDERED -- CONSIDERED ON THE SUBJECT SITE UNDER THAT R-35 DESIGNATION. THE PROPOSED PD WILL ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY FORM STRATEGY. AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S POLICY DIRECTION WITH REGARDS TO URBAN VILLAGES, WHICH SEEKS TO DIRECT THE GREATER SHARE OF GROWTH TO URBAN VILLAGES. TWO DRIVEWAYS ARE ORIENTED ALONG NORTH OLA AVENUE. ONE DRIVEWAY IS ORIENTED TOWARD WEST FRANCES AVENUE. THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE REMAINING LUNTS ACCESS THE SITE FROM THE 12-FOOT IMPROVED ALLEY WHICH IS ENCOURAGED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PEDESTRIAN AND FRONT DOORS BY NORTH OLA AVENUE AND OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS DESIGN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES THAT REQUIRE BUILDINGS IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS, MAINTAIN A CONSISTENT OVERALL SETBACK FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY IN ORDER TO CREATE A POLICE PLEASING DEFINITION TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND STREET. BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I AM AVAILABLE TO ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS, FOR MR. COLLINS. ZANE HUSAIN. >>ZANE HUSAIN: ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT. APPLICANT IS DEMETRIUS MILLER. 301 WEST FRANCES AVENUE. PROMISING REZONE ARE RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. ONE WAIVER FROM NATURAL RESOURCES FOR PAYMENT OF THE TRUST FUND FOR THE MITIGATION OF TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED ON THE SITE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERL VI OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT PARCEL OUTLINED HERE IN RED. YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS AT THE CORNER -- NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST FRANCES AVENUE. AND ALSO NORTH OLA AVENUE. THE SITE IS .2 ACRES HERE. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH. IN THE RM-16 ZONING. AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE EAST ITHE RM 24 ZONING AS WE LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN. THE FOUR PROPOSED UNITS ON THE SITE. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR ONE THREE-STORY TOWN HOUSE STYLE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH A TOTAL OF FOUR DWELLIN UNITS EACH ONE CONTAINS A TWO-CAR GARAGE INSIDE. TOTAL OF NINE PARKING SPACES INCLUDING ONE GUEST SPACE AND NINE PARKING SPACES REQUIRED HAVE BEEN MET. THE VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROVIDED ON AN APPROVED ALLEYWAY TO THE NORTH, NORTH OLA AVENUE, ON THE EAST SIDE, AND WEST FRANCES AVENUE TO THE SOUTH TO EACH AND EVERY DWELLING UNIT. AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PARCEL. TO THE EAST OF THE SITE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT I TALKED ABOUT. TO THE EAST RM-16 WITH THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY. AND TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY UP AND DOWN THE STREET HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAIT -- GO BACK -- >>ZANE HUSAIN: HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SHOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF THE CITY DOWN APPROVE THE APPLICATION FURTHER MODIFICATIONS MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER WANT TO BE >>HN DGFELDER: ZANE, GO TO COUPLE OF PICTURES THAT SURROUNDED. I THOUGHT YOU SAID SURROUNDED ON THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. BUT THEN WHEN YOU WENT TO THE PICTURE, YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS UP AND DOWN THE STREET THAT WE COULDN'T SEE IN THE PICTURE. >>ZANE HUSAIN: YES, SIR, TO THE NORTH -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: START WITH THE FIRST PART OF IT. THE NORTH, EAST, SOUTH AND WEST IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS SITES, IS IT DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY OR NO? >>ZANE HUSAIN: CORRECT, SI SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE RM-16 ZONING TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND EAST? >>ZANE HUSAIN: TO THE EAST IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE WITH THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EXISTING. THE EXISTING IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ARE ALL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. >>ZANE HUSAIN: CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. AND WHEN YOU MADE REFERENCE TO OTHER THINGS GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, UNLESS YOU HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW US, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T SEE IT. ZANE OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. THIS IS THE IMMEDIATE SITE. THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UP AND DOWN THE STREET. THE SINGLE FAMILY UP AND DOWN THE STREET. THE RM-24 ZONING. AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ZANE? HEING NONE. WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPL APPLICANT. >> GOOD EVENING. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE YOU. >> MY NAME IS RALPH SHULER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN'T SEE YOU YET. HE IS ON THE SECOND -- YOU THERE HE IS. >> THERE WE GO. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN CONTINUE SIR. >> MY NAME IS RALPH SHULER. I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO. AGAIN, SAN RAFAEL SHULER, THE AGENT AT 2401 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE. THANK YOU THIS EVENING, COU COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME. I'M HERE TO PRESENT 301 WEST FRANCES AS A NEW, EXCITING TOWN HOUSE UNIT WHICH IS A SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROJECT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS. IN PROJECT IS LOCATED TWO BLOCKS NORTH OF THE ARMATURE WORKS AND THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED OUR PROJECT AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN AND REVIEW THE BRIEF HISTORY OF THE WEST SIDE OF TAMPA HEIGHTS. TAMPA HEIGHTS IS DEFINED AS THE WEST OF TAMPA STREET, EAST OF BOULEVARD AND SOUTH OF COLUMBUS WITH AN UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD. IGNORED THE DUMPING GROUND OF HOMELESSNESS AND SOCIAL SERVICES. I EXPERIENCE THIS FIRST HAND AS A 23-YEAR RESIDENT OF EXPECT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT. TODAY WITH DECADES OF SILE FILY RESIDENTS, LARGEW, AND SMALL INVESTORS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS ARE EXPERIENCING A REVOLUTION. THAT BEGAN WITH ULELE, ARMATURE WORKS AND NOW SMALL INVESTORS LIKE MY CLIENT, WYATT. WE ARE REQUESTING A PD REZONING THAT IS CURRENTLY FOR A PARCEL VERY UNDERUTILIZED FOR O ONE-STORY SMALL BLOCK HOUSE BUILT IN 1990. NOW WITH RENAISSANCE COMES CHANGE. CHANGE OF TAMPA HEIGHTS IS BEING -- IS VERY DRAMATIC FOR SEVERAL REASONS. FIRST OF ALL, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SHOWN, THIS IS AN URBAN VILLAGE. THIS IS -- THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CMU-35. IT'S SLATED FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS TO BECOME THIS. NOW WE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS CHANGE, AND IT AND CAN BE SOMEWHAT DRAMATIC. HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE SITE. WE ARE RIGHT ON THE EDGE ON OLA AND FRANCES HERE IN THIS BLACK BOX. ACROSS THE STREET IS RM-24. IF WE WERE -- IF WE WERE ONE-HALF BLOCK EAST, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. WE WOULD NOT BE REQUESTING A PD, AND WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR ONE ADDITIONAL UNIT IN THE RM-16 LAND USE. WHEN GOING FROM THREE UNITS TO FOUR. AS MR. COLLINS STATED PREVIOUSLY, WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR SIX UNITS BASED ON THE R-35 FUTURE LAND USE. WE FEEL THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE SWEET SPOT FOR THE -- FOR THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. WE MEET ALL PRIMARY STRUCTURE SETBACKS IN SPIRIT ON THE SO SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. AND ON THE NORTH ALONG THE ALLEY, WE ARE JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW. BUT WE ARE PROPOSING FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS. ALL THESE WOULD BE FOR SALE STYLE UNITS. AND WE THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PROJECT. FOR THIS BUILDING. SOME OF THE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AGAIN, THIS IS PROPOSED TO EA UNIT HAS ITS OWN GARAGE. WE HAVE TWO UNITS FACING OLA. ONE UNIT FACING THE ALLEY AND ONE UNIT FACING FRANCES. WE ARE PROPOSING LOW WALL ON TWO SIDES FOR EACH END UNIT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF YARD AND THE TWO MIDDLE UNITS BASED ON THE SITE PLAN WILL HAVE A BACK YARD. DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SPECIFICALLY BRIAN SALE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT. HE REQUESTED US TO INVESTIGATE OTHER SOLUTIONS WHICH WE DID. MAINLY THE OTHER SOLUTION WAS A REAR ALLEY ACCESS FOR THESE -- FOR THESE GARAGES. WE DID INVESTIGATE THAT SOLUTION. BUT TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES WERE OPPOSED TO THAT SOLUTION -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO DID YOU SAY SIR? >> TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. >> TRANSPORTATION REQUIRES AT LEAST A 24-FOOT TURNING RADIUS INTO THE UNITS. AND IF WE HAVE AT LEAST A SEVEN-FOOT SETBACK HEREND THIS LAUREL OAK -- THIS LAUREL OAK TO BE RETAINED, THAT DRIVE AISLE CANNOT GET WITHIN THAT PROTECTED RADIUS. ALL THOSE THINGS MADE -- THE ABILITY TO MAKE A REAR ENTRANCE GARAGE IMPOSSIBLE. THE MATH JUST DOESN'T WORK. IN MEETING WITH TRANSPORTATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES, THEY -- THEY AGREED THIS IS A -- A BETTER SOLUTION. IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FROM CITY STAFF. AND SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE -- I KNOW THIS -- WE DID MEET WITH THE -- WITH THE SPECIFIC ASSOCIATION. AND I KNOW THERE IS PROBABLY SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT, BUT I THINK THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE SOLUTION. WE ARE NOT IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT. WE ARE NOT IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. WE MEET THE HEIGHT RESTR RESTRICTIONS. AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THIS BEING PROPOSED A UNDNDER CONST CONSTRUCTION. I UNDERSTAND THAT CHANGE IS DIFFICULT TIMES. I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 23 YEARS. BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING IN ONE DIRECTION. IT IS GOING TO BE DENSIFIED BASED ON ZONING AND LAND USE AND PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. LET'S FACE IT. WHEN I MOVED HERE 25 YEARS AGO, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT ABILITY. PEOPLE -- IT WAS A DUMPING GROUND FOR SOCIAL SERVICES. TODAY, WE ARE HAVING PEOPLE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO MOVE INTO A PLACE LIKTHISND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHULER, A COUPLE OF THINGS -- NO, YOU CAN LEAVE THAT UP, IF YOU WO WOULD. SO IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THIS -- THAT THESE COULD BE REAR LOADED. THAT THE GARAGES COULD BE REAR LOADED. YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM ON THE BACK IN ORDER TO MAKE THE TURN? >> WELL, IT IS SEVERAL REASONS, FEET.IDTH OF THE PROPERTY IS 62 YOU NEED 24-FOOT TURNING RA RADIUS. I HAVE A 15-FOOT RADIUS HERE FROM THIS LAUREL OAK THAT I CANNOT TOUCH. IT IS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. YOU ADD THE MATH UP, IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. I HAVE EIGHT FEET LEFT OVER -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET ME FINISH MY QUESTION, IF I. >> YES, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT NOW THOSE UNITS ARE SMACK-DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, AT LEAST AS FAR AS UNITS 2 AND 3 ARE CONCERNED. WHY -- DID YOU EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF SLIDING THEM IN FORWARD TOWARD OLA? AND ENTERING -- ENTERING THE DRIVEWAY FROM THE SOUTH. AND THEN THAT WAY COULD YOU HAVE REAR LOADED GARAGES. I MEAN, YOU ARE AN ARCHITECT, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ISN'T IS MORE APPEALING AND DESIRABLE TO HAVE REAR LOADED GARAGES ON THIS TYPE OF UNIT FROM THE STREET PERSPECTIVE? AND THEN -- WOULD YOU HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR FRONT PORCHES OR FOR OTHER TYPES OF AMENITIES AS OPPOSED TO LARGE GARAGE DOORS ON THE STREET. >> YES. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: A PD, YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THE PD. WHY NOT MOVE UNITS 2 AND 3 FORWARD -- MAYBE EVEN UNIT 4 FORWARD AND LIFE IS THE DRIVEWAY IN FROM THE SOUTH? >> MR. DINGFELDER, I RESCT YOUR OPINION; HOWEVER, THE MATH SIMPLY DOESN'T WORK. AND THEN TRANSPORTATION WOULD REQUIRE US A HAMMER HEAD HERE TO GET AROUND THIS LAUREL OAK. I COULDN'T JUST STOP. ALSO I AM ONLY ABOUT TEN FEET HERE ON THE EAST. I CAN ONLY SLIDE A COUPLE -- SEVEN FEET WOULD BE THE NORMAL CODE REQUIREMENTS HERE. DINGFELDER DHAINGZ IS A NORMAL CODE REQUIREMENT. YOU HAVE A PD. YOU HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. >> I UNDERSTAND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. WHY NOT HAVE AN URBAN AESTHETIC WHERE THE BUIING GOES UP CLOSER TO THE STREET AND REAR LOAD THOSE GARAGES? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOOKED AT? >> THE THE ABILITY TO GET 24 FEET -- MR. DINGFELDER, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, BUT TO GET TO 24 FEET IS REALLY IMPOSSIBLE. >> THE TURNING RADIUS AND THEN THE SIZE OF THOSE UNITS WOULD BE, AGAIN, EXTREMELY SMALL. HERE WOULD BE EIGHT FEET -- DOWN HERE WILL PROBABLY BE 20 FEET. WOULD YOU BASICALLY GET A GARAGE AND THAT WOULD IT BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS CURRENTLY A RM-16 ZONING. >> CORRECT DINGFELDER DWINGZ A RM-16 COULD YOU PULLED PERMIT FOR THREE UNITS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. DINGFELDER DWHAINGZ IS THE NECESSITY FOR FOUR UNITS? >> WELL, THE NECESSITY IS WE ARE -- LIKE ANYONE HERE IN THE URBAN VILLAGE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE IT, BUT ALSO WE COULD HAVE ASKED FOR SIX UNITS. I MET WITH MY CLIENT. MY CLIENT -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONLY AN ECONOMIC NECESSITY, CORRECT? >>ELL I MEAN, HE IS -- HE IS A BUILDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. HOW ABOUT MASS? YOU OBVIOUSLY STUDIED A LOT MORE MASS THAN I EVER DID IN AGRICULTURE SCHOOL. BUT -- YOU KNOW, ISN'T -- ISN'T THE MASS OF THREE UNITS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE MASS OF FOUR UNITS? AND HOW IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH -- WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT SURROUND IT? I MEAN, YOU GOT -- YOU GOT POTENTIALLY FOUR UNITS. 35 FEET TALL I CAN'T READ THE LENGTH OR WIDTH OF THIS THING. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I HELP YOU THERE. IT IS ONE OPPORTUNITY 24.4 X 36. ANOTHER ONE 26 X 36, 26 X 36. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOUR EYES ARE BETTER THAN MINE, MR. MIRANDA, BUT MR. SHULER, IT APPEARS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING A HECK OF A LOT OF MASS ON WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOT AND STILL SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW STAFF OR YOU AS A PROFESSIONAL CAN SAY THE FOUR UNITS AND THE MASS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UNITS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING HOMES. >> WELL, THEN THERE IS THE CHALLENGE AND, AGAIN, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION, MR. DINGFELDER, YOU GO FOR 40 YEARS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HAD THIS EXISTING ZONING. FOR MANY YEARS NO ONE CARED TO LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD. AND IT WAS A DUMPING GROUND FOR SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE HOMELESS. NOW WITH EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING, TAMPA HEIGHTS IS A HOT MARKET. THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND ADAPT -- SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A RENAISSANCE. OTHERS CALL IT A REVOLUTION. I CALL IT THE REALITY THIS IS GOING TO BE BASICALLY DOWNTOWN WHEN YOU GET TO PALM AVENUE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD -- IF WE WANT IT TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX ORIENTED WE SHOULD INVESTIGATE AS A CITY TO DOWNGRADE THE ZONING BUT PEOPLE ARE BUYING PROPERTIES AT EXORBITANT PRICES BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD. AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND THERE E RESIDENTS WHO ARE CONCERNED. I TALKED TO THOSE RESIDENTS MYSELF. BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS. IT IS -- AS YOU SAID, I COULD BUILD THREE UNITS TOMORROW AND NOT COME BEFORE YOU AND STILL HAVE ALL OF THE SAME SOLUTIONS. BUT I THINK IS A GOOD SOLUTION. AND I RESPECTFULLY THINK THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT DESERVES YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT -- YOU SAID YOU LIVED IN TAMPA HEIGHTS ALL YOUR LIFE, SIR? >> I HAVE LIVED HERE 23 YEARS. MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE. I BUILT AND DESIGNED A HOUSE I LIVE IN CURRENTLY AT TAMPA HEIGHTS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GREW UP AT 306 WEST PARK AVENUE. MY UNCLE LIVED AT 305 WEST PARK AVENUE. I KNOW THAT AREA VERY WELL. MR. DINGFELDER IS RIGHT, IT WAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. I CAN REMEMBER AS A BOY, MY GRA GREAT-AUNT WHERE I LIVED WITH A BUNCH OF AVOCADO TREES ALONG FRANCES AND THE BACK ALLEYWAYS OF PARK STREET AND THE HOUSES WOULD SIT BACK. BUT NOW WITH DEVELOPMENT, HO HOUSES ARE SIGNATURE UP CLOSE NOW. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SIR. I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BECAUSE I GREW UP ON THOSE STREETS THERE AND I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL AND I CAN SEE THE CONCERN THAT MR. DINGFELDER HAS AND THE CONCERN I HAVE BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC BASE AND THE NEW MOVE, BUT THAT IS A LOT OF MASS ON THAT PROPERTY. SO I CAN SEE WHERE MY COLLEAGUE IS GOING. DO UNDERSTAND THE AREA AS WELL. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THIS APPLICANT? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN -- NOT TOO MUCH IN THE AREA. BUT I DIDN'T GROW UP THERE, BUT I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL. WE MENTIONED ARMATURE WORKS. AND HOW WONDERFUL IT IS. AND IT IS. IT IS A GREAT AREA. GREAT AREA TO ENERGIZE YOURSELF. GREAT AREA TO GO OUT WITH YOUR FAMILY AND HAVE A NICE TIME. AND THEY GOT PALM AVENUE, WHEN IT WAS WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE, THERE WAS NOTHING THERE. AND INDIVIDUALS -- IT STARTED. AND IT FAILED. STARTED AGAIN. AND IT FAILED. FINALLY THEY HAD A PLAN THAT WORKED AND WOULD DO ONE HECK OF A JOB. I CAN'T PUT WHAT IS IN THAT AREA IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BECAUSE THAT AREA WAS ZONED THAT WAY 95% OF IT. WHAT I AM SAYING -- WHAT I AM LOOKING AT HERE IS SOMETHING THAT -- AND I AM NOT COMPARING THIS WITH ANY OTHER ZONING IN THE CITY, BUT WE HAD ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO. THE VICINITY OF WEST TAMPA, HABANA. I CAN'T -- I COMPARE IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. AND IT HAS THE SAME BASIC THINGS. YOU REMEMBER EVEN THAT DEVELOPER WANTED TO PUT A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF THE PLACE. THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY AND I AM NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT. I AM NOT FOR DEVELOPMENT. I AM FOR SEEING SOMETHING THAT WORKS. AS I SEE THE UNITS. NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO BUILD, WHAT COLOR TOAINT, HOW HIGH TO GO, HOW HIGH NOT TO GO, WHATEVER THE LAW SAYS TO DO. WHEN YOU CALCULATE THAT THING OUT, ONE AREA THAT IS NEVER TAKEN INTO THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF WHAT IS DONE BY THE LEGAL BEAVERS THAT WORK IN THE PLANNING DIVISION, BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND THAT IS LIVABILITY OF THE DWELLING THAT IS GOING UP. WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT IS NOT THERE AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE START SOME CHANGES. I AM NOT AGAINST CHANGE. I MYSELF CHANGE. I USED TO HAVE A LOT OF HAIR. AND SAYING ALL THESE THINGS, IT COMES TO MIND THAT WHEN YOU SAY THIS DOESN'T FIT THERE, AND YOU HAVE ADMITTED SOME OF THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO MAKE SOME DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS TO GET THE GOOD FOLKS THAT DO THE PLANNING TO DO THIS. THEN WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME? WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THIS COUNCIL? THAT IT DOESN'T FIT THERE BECAUSE YOUR UNITS ARE TOO LARGE OR YOU HAVE TOO MANY UNITS OR YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH UNITS, OR WHAT IS IT? AND -- IN ORDER TO FIT THIS, I GUESS TWO BEDROOMS, MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHAT THEY ARE, BUT -- SO I WOULD CALCULATE 870 FEET ON TWO UNITS AND 940 FEET ON TWO UNITS THERES ABOUT LIVING QUARTER WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ZONING BUT MY MATH TELL ME I THINK THAT WILL COME THERE. HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH THE LIVABILITY OF ONE OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE. I AM NOT COMPARING THAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG. I AM JUST SAYING THERE WAS ONE UNIT THERE AND I AM NOT OPPOSED TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE, BUT IT DOESN'T FIT, BECAUSE THE LAND IS NOT GIG ENOUGH. THAT IS WHY IT DOESN'T FIT. NO OTHER REASON WHY IT HAD TO BE REDESIGNED AND DESIGNED THE WAY IT IS TODAY AND THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONLY BEEN HERE TWO DAYS, RIGHT. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A COUPLE OF DAYS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU -- >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS HIS TIME -- >>CLERK: NO, HE STILL HAS SEVEN MINUTES. >> SO IN -- I WOULD LIKE TO NO AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS RECENT DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN ONE TO TWO BLOCKS OF THE SUBJECT SITE. SO THIS IS A DUPLEX. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOUR UNITS? >> TWO UNITS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT SIZE LOT SIR? >> 60 FEET. OURS IS 62. THIS IS AROUND THE CORNER. ALSO TWO UNITS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO UNITS. HOW LONG IS THAT LOT, SIR? >> 60 WIDE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MANY? >> 60 WIDE, THE WIDTH OF THE LOT. THIS ONE. ALSO ON FRANCES AVENUE A COUPLE OF BLOCKS DOWN. ALSO TWO UNITS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT SIZE LOT IS THAT SIR? >> 60 WIDE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 60 FEET WIDE. >> I BELIEVE SO I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO ASK ME THOSE QUESTIONS. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT BLOCK AND A HALF AWY TWO UNITS IN THE FRONT TWO IN THE BACK. A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE SIMILAR IN SCALE AND MASSING. NEW HOUSES WILL BE MUCH LARGER THAN OLD HOUSES. THIS HOUSE IS OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND HAVE SIMILAR SETBACKS BUT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE. AND LASTLY IS THIS ONE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. ALSO A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE. AND, AGAIN, IT'S -- YOU SEE IT MEETS THE -- THE TYPICAL SETBACKS. SO I -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS -- IS ABSOLUTELY GOING THROUGH A CHANGE. AND I THINK -- I THINK THIS IS -- THIS IS CONSISTENT WITHIN ALL THE REQUIREMENTS -- REQUIRED. BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MOTHER QUESTIONS. GUDES ANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU, SIR. WE WILL HEAR FROM ANYONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM? >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. ONE PERSON FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS AILEEN. >> GOOD EVENING, DOUG PHILLIPS. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. 312 WEST FRANCES AVENUE. I LIVED THERE 21, ALMOST 22 YEARS. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT RALPH SAID IS CORRECT. IT'S -- THE HISTORICISH NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT IN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT. IT'S NOTISTOC, BUT IT SHOULD AT LEAST BE OVERLAY IN MY OPINION. ANYWAY, THAT IS BESIDES THE POINT. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THIS PRO PROJECT, MOSTLY ON THE SAME GROUNDS THAT MR. DINGFELDER BROUGHT UP. IT IS JUST BY WOMAN NEWS IN MASS. IT IS -- GINORMOUS IN MASS. IT IS HUGE. I FEEL LIKE THE REASON THE PARKING DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE HE IS TRYING TO PUT TOO MUCH ON A SMALL LOT. I GUESS I AM REALLY NERVOUS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YOU ARE DOING GOOD. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER THING TO SAY, I THINK, AND LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES. IT'S -- I ALSO DISAGREE WITH THE PLANNING PEOPLE THAT SAY THAT HE COULD HAVE PUT SIX UNITS THERE. I MEAN, I LIVE THERE. I LIVE IN A TWO-STORY HOUSE. SIX UNITS WILL BE INSANE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT. FOUR UNITS IN MY OPINION IS NOT GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ALL THE UNITS THAT HE SHOWED YOU OAR AT LEAST A FEW OF THEM, ONE OF THEM IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. I CAN'T STAND LOOKING OUT MY FRONT WINDOW NOW BECAUSE OF THAT PERSON WAS ABLE TO PUT THEIR GARAGE FRONT FLIGHT FRONT OF MY HOUSE. WHEN THEY COULD HAVE REZONED -- NOT REZONED IT, BUT DESIGNED IT SO THEY CAN ENTER THROUGH THE BACK. THE BIG BLUE THING THAT HE SHOWED YOU IS TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ME. THEY AT LEAST UTILIZE THE GARAGE IN THE BACK, LIKE THE OLD HOUSES HAD. SO BASICALLY I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MIRANDA, AS WELL, THAT THIS IS A LITTLE TOO BIG FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ALLOW THE EXISTING -- EXISTING ZONING TO CHANGE -- TO STAY THE WAY IT IS. I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PHILLIPS -- MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. PHILLIPS, YOU LIVED THERE SOUNDS LIKE MOST OFOUR FE. >> I LIVED IT SINCE 1999. I BOUGHT THE HOUSE THROUGH THE MAYOR TAMPA HEIGHTS PROJECT BACK THEN. MY HOUSE IS A RESTORED 1900 BUNGALOW. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND BASED UPON YOU LIVING THERE, YOU K KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CONSISTENCY AND THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF FOUR UNITS AS COMPARED TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE AROUND THERE. AND -- I DRIVE UP AND DOWN THESE STREETS ALL THE TIME, BUT I CAN'T TESTIFY IN TERMS OF HOW MANY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ARE STILL THERE ON FRANCES AND ON PARK ETC. IF WE LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATIONS, WE MIGHT BE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THIS WHOLE THING HAS GONE MULTIFAMILY. BUT CAN YOU TESTIFY OTHERWISE? >> I WOULD SAYS IT STILL MAJORITY SINGLE-FAMILY. BUT AS THE ZONING SHOWS ON THE BLOCK THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT, ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET AND EVERYTHING, THE ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR A DUPLEX. SO THAT'S WHY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, THERE WILL BE A VACANT LOTTED FOR YEARS AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. IT HAD TREES. THERE ARE NO TREES ANYMORE. I SEE CONCRETE. BUT ANYWAY -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IN TERMS OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED VERSUS QUADS. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY QUADS AROUND -- RIGHT AROUND THERE? >> THIS THERE IS ONE QUAD AND ON AMELIA. IT IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ACCORDING TO THE CITY PLANNER PEOPLE, THAT IS A DIFFERENT ZONING, SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN THE RM-24. >> I WILL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. >> BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE STILL MORE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ON MY STREET THAN THERE ARE DUPLEXES OR HOPEFULLY NOT THREE OR F FOUR-PLEXS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T HEAR HIM -- >> I HAD ONE MORE THING TO SAY AND SORRY TO COME BACK. I DID NOTICE ON THE -- THE WEB SITE THAT THERE IS AN AGENDA THING AND IT SHOWS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUBMITTED STATEMENTS ONLINE AS WELL. SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE I AM THE ONLY ONE SPEAKING. I SAW OTHERS WHO WERE OPPOSED AS WELL. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. GUDES MISS AILEEN,NYONE ELSE. >> CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME? >>CLERK: WE HAVE ONE THAT IS LOGGED ON. BRIAN, CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT LAND. CAN YOU SWEAR AND I AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? >> WE HEAR YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION. MY NAME IS BRIAN SALE, AND I AM THE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT. OPPOSES THE LOCATION THE DENSITY IS EQUIVALENT TO A RM-24 ZONING WHICH HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS COMMENTS AND WE BELIEVE IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO THIS PROPERTY. THE ADDED DENSITY ON THE SLOT CREATES A BIGGER BUILDING F FOOTPRINT AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED AND CAUSES THE REMOVAL OF ADDITIONAL TREES. I REQUIRES THE REDUCTION OF STANDARD SETBACKS ON STREET FRONTING SIDES WHICH WOULD YOU GET IF IT WERE NOT BEING RE REZONED. IT HARMS OF PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE WITTHEOCATN AND THE QUANTITY OF DRIVEWAYS. AND IT DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE DEVELOPMENT CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IS BUILT AROUND ITS HISTORIC ALLEYWAYS, MOST HOMES CREATE A POSITIVE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY INTERACTION WITH THE STREET. THIS APPLICANT MAKES DRIVEWAYS THE DEFINING FEATURE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT ON NORTH OLA AV AVENUE. OLA IS SLATED ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS LIST TO BE MADE A B BIKEWAY. WE BELIEVE THAT ADDING TWO DOUBLE-WIDTHARAGVIOLATES THE INTENT OF THAT PLAN AND CREATES MORE POTENTIAL FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE DANGER. UNDER THE EXISTING RM-16 ZONE, THE APPLICANT COULD BUILD THREE UNITS AS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. BUT THE IMPACTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE EXACERBATED BY THE ADDITION OF THE FOURTH UNIT. THE DESIGN OF THE FOUR-UNIT PROJECT APPROPRIATE TO SCALE AND LAY OUT THE AREA. WE MIGHT END UP SUPPORTING DENSITY, BUT FAILED TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERN. THEY HAVE FIVE MONTHS TO DO SO BECAUSE WE REACHED OUT TO THEM IN APRIL 2021 WITHIN WEEKS OF FILING THE APPLICATION TO PROACTIVELY EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS. WE CAME TO THEM WITH OUR CONCERNS AND ASKED TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND THAT IS IT NOT HAPPEN. THE SITE PLAN YOU SEE IS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO THE ORIGINAL FILING. NOT APPROPRIATE TO EXTEND THE RM-24 OF WEST OF OLA. THIS IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE FOUR-UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MENTIONED ACROSS THE STREET AND ONE BLOCK UP BY DOUG, THAT DEVELOPMENT IS IN RM-24 ZONE, BUT THAT LOT IS OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS A LARGER LOT. AND USING THAT TO JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR FOUR UNITS ON A SMALLER LOT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I BELIEVE THE DELINEATION BETWEEN RM-16 AND RM-24 WAS CLEARLY SET BY PLANNING COMMISSION AND THOSE WHO SET IT YEARS AGO FOR A REASON BECAUSE THE LOTS GET SMALLER WEST OF OLA AVENUE. APPLICANT CLAIMS IFHEY RE ONE BLOCK EAST THEY COULD HAVE FOUR UNITS BY RIGHT WHICH IS GREAT, THEN THEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT LAND WITHIN THAT RM-24 ZONE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. >> LET ME CONCLUDE WITH ONE STATEMENT. WE BELIEVE IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN OF CITY CODE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD UNANIMOUSLY AND AT LEAST THREE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED THIS REZONING AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY IT. THANK YOU. >>BILL CARLSON: MR. SEAL, IN ADDION TO THE CREDENTIALS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US YOUR PROFESSIONAL CREDENTIALS AND EXPERIENCE ALSO? >> SURE, THANK YOU, COU COUNCILMEMBER. I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN CONSTRUCTION AND A YEAR AND A HALF OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT GRADUATE SCHOOL. I SERVED FOR 12 YEARS IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY MOST RECENTLY AS AN OWNERS REP OVERSEEING ZONING, DESIGN AND OCCUPANCY SERVICES FOR COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION. I AM ALSO A PAST MEMBER OF IS IT CITY OF TAMPA VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED, MADAM CLERK? >>CLERK: NO, THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: APPLICANT HAS REBUTTAL TIME. THE APPLICANT HAS REBUTTAL TIME. THERE HE IS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CON CONCERNS. I THINK WHAT -- REALLY WHAT COMES DOWN TO IT HERE, GENTLEMEN, IS WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FLUX. I GET IT. I LIVE HERE TOO. WE HAVE EXISTING ZONING THAT VARIES. WE HAVE A LAND USE PLAN THAT IS EXTREMELY DENSE AND OVER THE NEXT 30 TO 40 YEARS, WE WILL SEE MANY, MANY PEOPLE COME HERE AND PRESENT PROJECTS SIMILAR IN CURRENTLY, THERE ARE ACTIVE PROJECTS BEING DEVELOPED ALL OVER THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SOME ARE MORE CONTEXTUAL THAN OTHERS. I AGREE THERE ARE SOME THAT DO A BETTER JOB IN TAKING CARE OF THE CAR, I GUESS AS YOU WOULD SAY. THIS MEETS CODE. THIS MEETS THE INTENT OF EVERYONE WITHIN YOUR STAFF. WE MEET HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, WE MEET SETBACKS. ALL OF THESE THINGS THEY DISCUSSED HERE PREVIOUSLY IS CONJECTURE. NOW WHAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO I THINK AND THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO TALK TO THEIR STAFF AND THE CITY AT LARGE IS, IS THIS IS TWO BLOCKS FROM AN EXTREMELY INTENSE URBAN DEVELOPMENT. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NOW IF YOU DON'T ALREADY LIVE HERE IS EITHER YOU BUY A LOT AND BUILD A HOUSE WHICH WILL COST YOU A 1.5 MILLION. THAT WHITE HOUSE I SHOWED YOU -- A NEIGHBORHOOD -- CAN GET IN THIS MUCH, MUCH, SELLING BETWEEN $500,000 AND $600,000. AND I THINK INCLUSIVITY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I AM 100% FOR INCLUSIVITY. BUT ARCHITECTURAL INCLUSIVITY IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WITHOUT THESE, WE HAVE -- GOING TO BECOME WHAT WAS A VERY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WILL BECOME AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD TO LIVE IN UNLESS O. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, I DISAGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT COMPATIBILITY. I BELIEVE THEY ARE COMPATIBLE. WITH THIS PROJECT WORK ON AN INTERIOR LOT, ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS PROJECT ONLY WORKS ON THE CORNER LOT. AND THE CORNER LOTS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS WILL BE DENSER THAN INTERIOR LOTS. INTERIOR LOTS WILL BE DUPLEXES MORE THAN LIKELY. THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GENERATIONS. PAST AND GENERATIONS TO COME. SO, YES, 100 YEARS AGO WE BLYTHE BUILT SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES HERE. AND A LOT HAVE CHANGED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE LAST 100 YEARS. LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN DOWNTOWN. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN ARMTURE WORKS. ARMATURE WORKS WAS A DERELICT. WHEN I MOVED HERE I IT MY THESIS -- MY MASTER'S THESIS ON THE AMPLETURE WORKS PROPER. I HAVE DONE -- AGAIN, I THINK IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN ATTITUDE. DO YOU EMBRACE IT OR WANT TO STAY THE SAME. TO STAY THE SAME IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE IN THIS NEIGH NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS -- PEOPLE ARE CASHING O OUT. THEY ARE GETTING $400,000, $500,000 AND $60000,000 FOR LOTS. SO THINK AND TO IMAGINE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL STAY ONLY A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD IS SHORTSIGHTED. WITH THAT, I WOULD REALLY REQUEST YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION. MR. SHULER, I HEAR WHAT YOU SAY. WE CAN SIT DOWN OVER LUNCH AND TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS FOR AN HOUR OR TWO AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD OUTSIDE OF CONTEXT OF THIS HEARING AT A LATER DATE, BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY. YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND, AND YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF HEARINGS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL. I AM GOING TO TELL YOU HONESTLY I THINK -- AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TALK TO YOUR CLIENT VERY QUICKLY. I AM GOING TO TELL YOU HONESTLY I THINK YOU ARE ROLLING THE DICE ON THIS IN TERMS O UP OR DOWN. I DON'T KNOW -- THERE ARE SEVEN OF US AND I AM ONLY ONE, BUT YOU CAN HEAR SOME -- SOME VERY LOUD CONCERNS. I ALWAYS LIKE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PULL BACK FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND REVISIT AND LISTEN TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS AND TALK TO THOSE NEIGHBORS AGAIN. I -- FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I -- I EVEN HEARD THEM SAY MAYBE THEY COULD LIVE WITH FOUR UNITS BUT WITH DIFFERENT DESIGN. MAYBE SOME OF THOSE UNITS COULD BE REAR LOADED IF WE THOUGHT OUTSIDE THE BOX. MAYBE YOU CAN COME IN AND ASK FOR A WAIVER FOR THE TURNING RADIUSES THAT STAFF ALWAYS ASK FOR AND PEOPLE REQUEST FOR WAIVERS AND OFTEN GET THEM. THERE IS A LOT OF MAKES. MAYBE YOU CAN DO THREE LARGER UNITS AND MAKE THE MONEY BACK AT THE PRICES THAT ARE GOING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF MAYBES THERE. BUT I DON'T KNOW FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR CLIENT'S PERSPECTIVE IF YOU WANT TO ROLL THE DICE. BECAUSE THE ADVANTAGE OF TAKING A BREAK -- THE ADVANTAGE OF TAKING A BREAK, AS YOU KNOW, IN COMING BACK A DIFFERENT DESIGN THAT EVERYBODY IS HAPPY WITH, AS OPPOSED TO AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. YOU GET AN OUT AND DOWN VOTE, YOU GOT TO START ALL OVER AG AGAIN. IF YOU TAKE A BREAK, YOU MAY USE THE SAME PD NUMBER AND MODIFY YOUR PLANS AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK, RAFFLE. THE OTHER THING I WILL MENTION IF YOU LOOK AT HYDE PARK VILLAGE, OKAY, JUST A LARGE -- NOT AS BIG AS ARMATURE, BUT A BIG GIANT PROJECT, IT IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. SO I KNOW -- I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE APPLES AND ORANGES, BUT I AM SAYING THAT WE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE THIS BEFORE. SO ANYWAY, I AM SURE, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD GRACIOUSLY ACCEPT IF YOU WANTED A CONTINUANCE OR PERHAPS THE ENTIRE BOARD WOULD, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW MY CLIENT TO SPEAK, IF THAT'S OKAY. >>ORLANDO GUDES: HIS TIME IS UP. >> HE STILL HAS ONE MINUTE AND SEVEN SECONDS. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I WILL MAKE THIS QUICK. WE DID MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST HIS NAME AND IF HE WAS SWORN. >> YES. I HAVE BEEN SWORN. WYATT JEWOSK II. TO MAKE THIS QUICK WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BRIAN OVER PHONE. RALPH MET IN PERSON. THIS WAS IN FACT OUR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN. WE MADE CHANGES TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK. SO WE TRIED MULTIPLE WAYS TO MAKE THIS WORK. YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE ABILITY POTENTIALLY TO GET A WAIVER ON THE TURNING RADIUS AND A CHALLENGE OF THE TREE. SO BE MADE THE DECISION AND I TRUSTED RALPH AS MY ARCHITECT THAT THIS WAS INDEE THE BEST USE OF THE LAND AND THIS WAS THE BEST LAYOUT. AND I WILL ADD, BRIAN AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEIR COMPLAINT WAS NOT AROUND DENSITY EVER FROM THE BEGI BEGINNING. IT WAS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAYS AND THE MODERN STYLE. I BELIEVE HE IS HERE TO OPPOSE THE DENSITY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE PROPOSING TODAY. HOWEVER, WHEN HE DIME US, THERE WAS OTHER DISCUSSIONS. IN FACT WE SLIGHTLY CHANGED THE DESIGN TO ACCOMMODATE THEM TO MAKE IT FEEL LITTLE WARR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, I BELIEVE ON OUR SIDE TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE NEARBY. BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS TWO BLOCKS FROM AN APARTMENT BUILDING. AND MANY OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, RESTAURANTS AND I PERSONALLY WILL BE LIVING IN ONE OF THESE UNITS IF WE CAN IMAGINE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO IT IS NOT JUST AN INVESTMENT TO FLIP, BUT SOMETHING THAT I AM ALSO VERY PERSONALLY PASSIONATE AND EXCITED ABOUT. THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DINGFELDER. I AM LOOKING AT HEAD SHAKES ABOUT CONTINUANCE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S SEE WHAT THEY WANT, I GUESS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAY I SP SPEAK PLEASE? >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED SIR. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AGAINST A LOT OF THINGS, BUT JUST TODAY, WE HAD ONE THAT WE SAID WE WILL PUT IN NOVEMBER AND NOW DECEMBER BECAUSE NOVEMBER IS FULL. WE ARE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS TO CATCH UP OR WHEN YOU CONTINUE SOMETHING, YOU ARE TAKING SOMEBODY'S SLOT THAT IS ON THE WAITING LIST TO GET IN. AND THIS IS T FAIR TO THE WHOLE SYSTEM. I AM NOT HERE AGAINST OR FOR ANY COUNCILMEMBERS BUT WE NEED TO COME TO A CONSENSUS WE EITHER GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS AND NO MORE CONTINUANCES OR SET ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING AND I DON'T MIND DOING EITHER ONE OF THEM BUT I CAN'T KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ANY LONGER AND THE PEOPLE APPLYING GET IN AND CANNOT GET IN BECAUSE A CONTINUANCE TOOK ITS PLACE. THAT WE HAVE IN ABUNDANCE. LET ME GO BACK LITTLE FURTHER. NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU PAID FOR -- NOT TO THIS CASE. LET ME -- THATAS T DECION OF WHOEVER WANTED TO BUY THAT LAND JUST MY DECISION WHO WHAT KIND OF CAR I WANT TO BUY OR SHOES OR SUIT I WANT TO BUY. THAT IS YOUR DECISION. THIS IS AMERICA, FREE COUNTRY. DON'T COME HERE AND ANYONE TELL ME WELL, YOU KNOW I GOT TO HAVE THIS. LISTEN, YOU DIDN'T CONSENT US ABOUT YOUR LAND, AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS CASE. AGAIN I WANT TO MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT. I AM A PRETTY LIBERAL INDIVIDUAL AT SOME POINT. BUT AM SOME POINT, AS I GET TO THE POINT, I AM JUST A HUMAN BEING. I AM SAYING WE GOT TO COME TO SOME CONSENSUS. THEY ARE GETTING STACKED BEHIND -- WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO FILE TO GET THE APPROVAL TO COME HERE AND SO FORTH. TO MAKE THEIR PLANS KNOWN. SO WE EITHER ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING THIS CITY -- WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, WE HAD VERY FEW. IT WAS A GHOST TOWN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOT NOW. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HYDE PARK. COULD YOU HAVE BOUGHT ANYTHING AT HYDE PARK FOR A COUPLE OF DOLLARS. I REMEMBER THE LADY -- BECAUSE SHE WAS A WONDERFUL LADY THAT REPRESENTED MILDRED DITMUS THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION BACK IN THE '70s.3 AND THEY WERE OPPOSED TO WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT WAS, AND WE TALKED AND VISIT -- SHE CAME IN LIKE IT WAS A NEIGHBOR. IT WAS A NEIGHBOR DISCUSSION BETWEEN ALL OF US. YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY FINALLY CONCEDED IF WE DIDN'T TOUCH THE LITTLE AVENUE BECAUSE OUTSIDE OF THE EXPRESSWAY THERE, JUST TO THE EAST OF IT, WE -- THE DEAL WAS MADE THAT THAT WOULD STAY EXACT -- NO DEVELOPMENT COULD EVER CHANGE THAT. AND WE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND THAT WAS -- THAT IS NOT I, BUT A LOT OF COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT CAME THROUGH HERE TO GET THAT DONE. AND IT -- AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED OTHER AREAS, DOWNTOWN WAS WHAT. YOU COULD COME OUT THIS PARKING LOT. MAKE A LEFT WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING. DO YOU THAT NOW. THAT -- NOT ONLY DO YOU GET RUN OVER. THE CAR GETS RUN OVER AND EVERYTHING HITS YOU. THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THERE WAS NOTHING -- NOTHING HERE TO DO. WE HAD A CREW AT 5:00 PICK UP THE SIDEWALKS. YOU HAD TO LAY THEM DOWN BY 6:00 IN THE MORNING. BUT I CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PRICE OF LAND. THAT IS BETWEEN THE BUYER AND THE SELLER. I CANNOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST OF LUMBER, CONCRETE BLOCKS OR THE SALE PRICE OF A HOUSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY. MR. MIRANDA IS RIGHT, I AM GOING TO ASK THAT YOU GIVE COUNCILMEMBERS IN UPCOMING WEEKS AND LOOK AND ALSO PROBABLY GET WITH PLANNING AS WELL IN REFERENCE TO THESE CONTINUANCES BECAUSE MAY NEED T BE A SEPARATE DAY IF WE NEED TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY. MIGHT BE ON A SEPARATE DAY VERSUS -- MR. MIRANDA IS RIGHT. PEOPLE WAITING TO GET IN THE DOOR AND WE KEEP KICKING THEM DOWN THE ROAD AND UNFAIR FOR THOSE APPLICANTS AND WE NEED FOR YOU TO GET WITH THE PROPER PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE PROPER DATE DURING THE MONTH AND LOOK AT DATES FOR JUST CONTINUANCES BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE CASE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BEING FAIR FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. ALL THE CITIZENS. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY SAY ONE THING. TODAY 20% CONTINUANCES. THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING, SIR. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR.I MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST REAL QUICK TO WRAP UP. I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND THE OBJECTIONS FROM MR. SEAL, WHO SPOKE VIRTUALLY AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT THAT. AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. BUT IN REGARDS TO THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE IS TAMPA'S FIRST SUBURB FROM THE LATE 1800s. IT IS NOT DESIGNATED AS YBOR CITY AS A NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT, BUT TAMPA HEIGHTS HAS SOME OF THE OLDEST ARCHITECTURE AND HOMES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA. WHEN PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS OF RAPID CHANGING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE. I APPRECIATE A RENAISSANCE WITH ARMATURE WORKS AND EVERYTHING GOING ON AROUND IT. AND WE CAN'T LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT HAS BEEN THERE WELL OVER A CENTURY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU MAY NOT GET A VOTE OF A CONTINUANCE TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER -- HAVE A RIGHT TO VOTE, BUT I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO HEAR THAT IF THAT IS YOUR PLEASURE TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. SHULER, YOU ARE UP. >> I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CLIENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE, THANK YOU. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE SUSAN ON THE SC SCREEN. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CAN YOU NOT SEE ME? >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN'T SEE YOU ON OUR SCREENS. WE CAN SEE YOU HOW. YES MA'AM. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ALL SEOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY.EZ, I WANT TO MAKE COUPLE OF COMMENTS. I HEARD A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF DESIGN ELEMENTS LAND THE GARAGE GOES IN THE FRONT, BACK AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAY GOES. DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING IS NOT A CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL IN EVALUATING THIS APPLICATION. I HAVE HEARD COMMENT OF THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING AND THAT IS AN APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. AND -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN, CAN I ASK YOU A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU SAID JUST NOW. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND WINDOWS AND THE AESTHETICS AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT IN TERMS OF THE OPTION MUCH PUTTING A REAR-LOADED GARAGE VERSUS A FRONT-LOADED GARAGE AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, THE ENACT THEY HAVE GOT, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAYS ON THIS PROPERTY FOR EIGHT -- FOR EIGHT VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT. I -- I WOULD THINK THAT THOSE ARE GUEST LEGITIMATE THINGS WE CAN TALK ABOUT. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WHETHER IT GOES IN THE FRONT OR BACK, AGAIN THE QUESTION IS -- >>JO DIA PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE TOO. FRONT OR BACK. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: OKAY. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT I DON'T WANT TO YOU GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE DESIGN ISSUE, WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MASS SOMETHING A MORE APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION FOR COUNCIL AT THIS POINT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT AESTHETICS BUT MASSING. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COR CORRECT. THE NUMBER UNITS, HEIGHTS, APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY. SOME. THINGS YOU ADDRESSED BUT -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY, THANK YOU. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YOU ARE WELCOME. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO MOVE TO CLOSE. MR. MANISCALCO HAS MOVED IT. MR. MIRANDA HAS SECONDED IT. ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED. MR. DINGFELDER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY -- LET ME GET ORGANIZED HERE. WITH REGARDS TO ITEM 7, RE REZ-21-56. I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY THIS PETITION FOR THIS PROPERTY LOCATED AT 31 -- 301 WEST FRANCES, AVENUE, PETITION FROM RM-16 TO PD FOR FOUR UNITS SPECIFICALLY AS SHOWN US TO ON THE SITE PLAN. MOVE TO DENY DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE ANNE TO MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AS CONDITION AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY -- SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE, THAT THEY HAVE FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT THE -- WH GREAT EMPHASIS ON THE FACT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THESE FOUR UNITS AS CONFIGURED IN THIS PD ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING -- WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AS REQUIRED BY THE LAND USE POLICIES. I BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT ALSO FAILS TO COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136 AND SPECIFICALLY THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION AS RELATED TO THE CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SPECIFICALLY WE HAD CONTINUE AND ACTUALLY THE PETITIONER'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. SHULER, WHO IS A REALLY STRAIGHT-UP GUY AND A VERY GOOD ARCHITECT, BY THE WAY, BUT HE SHOWED US PICTURES OF TWO UNITS ON 60-FOOT LOTS THAT LOOK MUCH MORE COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT EXISTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. DUPLEXES ON 60-FOOT LOTS AS OPPOSED TO FOUR UNITS. AND IT IS NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF UNITS BUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS TRANSLATES INTO THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE MASS OF THIS ENTIRE QUADRIPLEX AS MR. MIRANDA POINT $OUT APPEARS TO BE 36 FEET WIDE BY ALMOST 100 FEET IN LENGTH. AND PROBABLY THEY ARE ALLOWED UP TO 35 FEET TALL WHICH MOST TOWN HOMES GO TO 35 FEET. THAT IS A LARGE MASSIVE STRUCTURE FOR A 62 X 1 130-SOMETHING-FOOT LOT. AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE MASS AND SCALE ARE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE HAVE BEEN TESTIMONY FROM SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS ONE OF WHICH LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 30 YEARS AS RELATED TO THE INCOMPATIBILITY. AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ON TO WHAT I SAID, I AM MORE THAN WELCOME TO ACCEPT FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. THAT IS MY MOTION. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU I WILL SECOND THAT. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WILL CHAIRMAN GUDES YOU ARE RECOGNIZED. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SH SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY. TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF ISSUES THAT CAME UP. AN APPEALS PERIOD THAT FOLLOWS THIS DENIAL. I ASK TO YOU REMAIN MINDFUL OF THAT FOR THE 30-DAY APPEAL PERIOD TO AVOID ANY DISCUSSION WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR. ITEM NUMBER 8. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSAIN DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, CASE REZ-21-64. PROPERTY LOCATED 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET FROM RS-60 TO PD, OFFICE, BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL. I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. OUR NEXT CASE IN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL WEST PINE PARK LOCATED ONE MILE TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS QUARTER MILE WEST OF THE SITE ON SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY. SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE FOR SUBJECT SITE. AREA MAP OF THE SUBJECTS SITE AND PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST AZEELE STREET AND SOUTH HIMES AVENUE. YOU WILL SEE PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT SURROUND THE SUBJECT SITE. NONRESIDENTIAL USES SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ON S. HIMES AVENUE. HERE IS THE ADOPT FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SITES UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE RIDENAL 20 TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE. RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE SOUTH AND RESIDENTIAL-35 CORRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE ST. LOUIS NECESSARY IG NATION AND A LIMITED NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWED IN THIS STORY AND THE PROJECT MEETS LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE COMMERCIAL SUECT SITE MEETS THE CRITERIAHE FOR CONSIDERATION. SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ALONG WEST AZEELE STREET DESIGNATED AS A ARTERIAL ROADWAY FOR THE NONEXISTING ZONING ADJACENT TO THE SITE ON THE NORTH AND EAST AND NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING FURTHER WEST ON WEST AZEELE STREET. NEW DEVELOPMENT SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA WHERE PRACTICAL AND FEASIBLE FOR PEDE PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED ACTIVITIES. THE SUBJECT SITE HAS PROVIDED -- SORRY, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HAS PROVIDED FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING TO THE SIEWALK ALONG S. HIMES AVENUE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS POLICY DIRECTION. BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WIH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, ZANE. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT KOORLD NATION. APPLICANT IS E SI PROPERTIES LCC. PROPERTY 3602 WEST AZEELE STREET. FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO PD, OFFICE, BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE WAIVERS REQUESTED AS YOU CAN SEE. THE FIRST IS 27-160 FOR THE SOUTH HIMES SPECIAL SETBACK FROM 45 FEET TO 40 FEET TO ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS MEASURED FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE WAIVER REQUEST IN NUMBER TWO, 27.284.4 D FOR PAYMENT INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR APPLICATION OF THE TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED ON-SITE. WAIVER NUMBER 3, 284.3.3 TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED BUFFER FROM THE REQUIRED 15 FEET TO 5 FEET TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. THIS SHOULD BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. AS WE LOOK AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE AERIAL, YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED HERE IN RED. THE POINT OF THE PROPOSED REZONING IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A818- 1818-SQUARE-FOOT STRUCTURE WITH A PROPOSED USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. THE TOTAL SITE CONSISTENCY OF 7414 SQUARE FEET. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST AZEELE STREET. AND S. HIMES AVENUE. RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH. VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON S. HIMES AVENUE WITH A SURFACE PARKING LOT. THE SITE HERE IS LOCATED SURROUNDED BY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING DIRICT FOR RO USES AND MEDICAL OFFICE TO THE NORTH. PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED TO THE SOUTH. AS MY CURSOR POINT TO. ZONING DISTRICT FOR MEDICAL OFFICE TO THE EAST. AS YOU SIGH HERE. AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USE IN THE RS-60 ZONING DISTRICT TO THE WEST SURROUNDING THE SITE. IF YOU LOOK AT OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPOSED OFFICE SPACE LOCATED AND THEN ALSO THE PARKING LOT. WEST AZEELE STREET RUNNING OVERHEAD TO THE NORTH. WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE CURRENT STATE AND WHERE IT IS LOCATED. YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE ON THE SITE. TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD TO THE NORTH, AND ALSO YOU WILL SEE THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH HIMES. AND WEST AZEELE STREET HERE. TO THE EAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE -- YOU WILL SEE THE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND MEDICAL OFFICE USE TO THE EAST. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE, ALSO, THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES TO THE SOUTH. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SHOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS FOR THE MODIFICATIONS MUST BE MADE TO THD SECOND READING. THANK YOU. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUES QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TOM SHIMLICK, 619 LEZON AVENUE, FLORIDA, 33606. BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZONING STAFF, WE FEEL THERE IS NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO THIS EXCEPT TO ASK OR ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND WE THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE. I CAN ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER 8? >>AILEEN ROSARIO: THERE IS NO ONE HERE. >> WE WANT TO GET TO THE BUC GAM. >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH. NOBODY HERE. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANYBODY REGISTERED. >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPE SPEAKERS. >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED. OKAY, MR. DINGFELDER -- MR. MIRANDA, YOU ARE UP. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER R REZ-21-64. I MOVE AN ORDINANCE ON REZ REZ-21-64 FOR APPROVAL. AND E APPLICANT MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CITY COLD AND THAT THE WAIVERS DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE. THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY -- IT IS IN THE CORNER WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO ON HIMES. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, SIR THE WAIVERS -- THE DESIGN WAIVERS MEET 139.4 AND THE WAIVER IS UNIQUE AND IN NEED OF WAIVERS. AND SHOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR ENSURE THE RIGHTS OF THIS PROPERTY AND WILL NOT EFFECT -- ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THE WAIVER. >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MANISCALCO HAS SECONDED IT. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES. >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY, COND READING AN ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M. >> THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. MOVE ON TO ITEM 9. REZ-21-65. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, CASE REZ-21-65. PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET FROM RS-50 TO PD, RESINTIASINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS ARE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COL COLLINS. >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN YOU SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE. THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. THE NEXT CASE THE TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE. THE CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY IS PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND LOCATED TWO BLOCKS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. THE CLOSEST TRANSIT STOP IS THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF THE SITE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET. THE SUBJECTED SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DANNY, CAN YOU GO BACK? >>DANNY COLLINS: SORRY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO BACK ONE SLIDE. WHENEVER YOU SLOW UP THAT SL SLIDE. ARE YOU USING YOUR CURSOR TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE PROJECT IS OR JUST SHOWING US THE WHOLE CITY? >>DANNY COLLINS: NO, THIS IS THE VISION MAP FOR THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICTS. SO JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU THE PLANNING DISTRICT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT TO USE YOUR CURSOR TO SHOW -- APPROXIMATELY WHERE THIS IS? >>DANNY COLLINS: YEAH, IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE, SO IT IS -- IT WOULD BE IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE MY CURSOR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YEAH, WE CAN SEE. >>DANNY COLLINS: IT WOULD BE IN THIS AREA OVER HERE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR. >>DANNY COLLINS: YEP. THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THIS PURPLE COLOR ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH TAMPA STREET AND UDALE STREETS AND. NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE TOWARD NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE WHICH IS A TRANSIT CORRIDOR. HERE IS -- THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP. RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. TO THE WEST OF THIS SITE ONE PARCEL OVER IS PARCELS UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION. ONE BLOCK EAST IS SHOWN IN THE RED COLOR IS PARCELS UNDER A THE CCU-35 FUTURE LAND USE NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE ONE BLOCK TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT S SITE. THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IN AVERSION IMPACTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGH NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REQUEST PROPOSED IS FOUR ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS AND OVERALL DENSITY OF 16 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS BELOW THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 LAND USE DESIGNATION. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAVE ORIENTATION OF A FRONT DOOR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK AND STREET. THE ENTRANCE IS TO THE UNITS MEET THIS POLICY DIRECTION AS THEY ARE ORIENTED TO THE STREET AND CONNECTS TO THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK ON WEST ADALIA STREET. AND MEET POLICIES IN THE COMP PLAN OF HOUSING THE CITY'S POPULATION. EXPECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND UNOCCUPIED LAND TO HELP MEET THE FUTURE POPU POPULATIONS AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AS WELL. BASE $ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. COLLINS? HEARING NONE. MR. HA HUSSEIN. >>ZANE HUSAIN: ZANE HUSAIN, MAY I HAVE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN? THANK YOU SO MUCH. ZANE HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, CASE REZ-21-65. THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS JOSEPH BUONODONO. DOING MY BEST. THE PROPERTY ADDRESS 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET. PROPOSE PROPOSED RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. ONE WAIVER REQUESTED FOR APPLICABLE TRETRUS FUND FOR MITIGATION OF TREES THAT CANNOT BE PLANTED ON-SITE. AS WE SEE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, OUTLINED HERE IN RED, YOU WILL SEE EAST AND WEST ADALE STREET TO THE NORTH. RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH TO THE EAST. YOU WILL HAVE NORTH TAMPA STREET. TO THE SOUTH, YOU WILL HAVE WEST FLORIBRASKA AND WEST ALFRED STREET. AND TO THE WEST NORTH OLA AVENUE RUNNING TO THE WEST. AS WE COME HERE LKING AT THE OVERHEAD VIEW SITE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS TO CONSTRUCT FOUR -- ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR -- RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLING UNITS. THE SITE AT .25 ACRES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BEST ADALE STREET AND NORTH TAMPA STREET. RIGHT HERE. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED FOR ONE THREE-STORY TOWN HOUSE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING WITH A ROOFTOP TERRACE WITH A TOTAL OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS RUNNING ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER. THE DEVELOPMENT IS ORIENTED TOWARD WEST ADALE STREET AND NORTH TAMPA STREET AND HELP TO PROVIDE A SUITABLE BUFFER TO THE USES MAJORLY TO THE WEST OF IT. COME HERE. EACH UNIT PROVIDES A FRONT DOOR FACING THE NORTH WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK ALONG WEST ADALE STREET RIGHT HERE. THE -- THE VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED ON WEST ADALE STREET ALO AND EACH UNIT CONTAINS AN ENCLOSED TWO-CAR GARAGE WITHIN EACH UNIT. THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 40 FEET AND A TOTAL OF NINE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND NINE PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED HERE. AS I WENT OUT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES OF THE CURRENT STATE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THOSE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES I WAS MENTIONING THE INTERSANCTION OF NORTH TAMPA AND WEST ADALE STREET. TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RUNNING ALONG TO THE WEST. AND TO THE NORTH, YOU WILL SEE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME ACROSS THE STREET FROM NORTH ADALE STREET. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ZANE, HOLDS ONE SECOND. THE ONE SAYS "WEST OF THE S SITE." IS THAT A NEW TWO-FAMILY HOME? IT LOOKS MORE TWO-FAMILY THAN NGLE-FAMILY. IT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED. >>ZANE HUSAIN: NO, SIR. IT ACTUALLY IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. DINGFELDER SDINGZ REALLY? OKAY -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS IT REALLY? OKAY. >>ZANE HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FINDS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY DOWN APPROVE THE APPLICATION FURTHER MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN MUST BE CORRECTED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF THANK YOU.T. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSAIN. MR. VIERA, ARE YOU GOOD? >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR, MR. CHAIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PETITIONER. >>CLERK: HE IS ONLINE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. GRALES. HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN? >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE NEED -- YOU NEED TO HIT YOUR VOLUME THERE. >> NOT SIR, YET. MY APOLOGIES. >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CARRY ON. >> BRAJILO -- WEST CYPRESS STREET IN TAMPA AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I AM PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND AN ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT BEFORE THIS. BEFORE YOU THIS REZONING CASE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL MEMBERS OF THE STAFF FOR THEIR HELP AND SUPPORTHROUOUT THIS REZONING PROCESS MR. JOSEPH BUONODONO WITH BRICK AND MORTAR CONSTRUCTION IS HOPING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPER WITH FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNIT WITH REAR ACCESS OF T TWO-CAR GARAGES. MR. BUONODONO PROACTIVELY CONTACTED THE NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY AND DESCRIBED THE PLAN AND HIS VISION OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. ON AUGUST 26 OF THIS YEAR, WE PRESENTED THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN THEIR MONTHLY MEETING. WE RECEIVED POSITIVE REVIEWED, SPECIFICALLY WE RECEIVED COMMENTS OF APPRECIATION FOR PROVIDING A DESIGN WITH VEHICULAR ACCESS AND PARKING AT THE BACK OF THE LOT AND MAKING THE FRONT FACADE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION ALSO INDICATING THAT NOT HAVING FRONT-FACING GARAGES IS A KEY NEIGHBORHOOD VALUE. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION YOU BOARD REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL FEATURES TO THE BUILDING TO INTEGRATE THE SIDE FACADE AND IMPROVE THE PEDESTRIAN APPEAL ALONG TAMPA STREET. TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION DID NOT TAKE AN OFFICIAL POSITION ON THIS REZONING APPLICATION. IN THE REPORT OF REZONING REQUEST, ALL DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES ARE PREVIOUSLY INDICATED BY STAFF ON THE SITE PLAN CONSISTENT. I RESPECTFULLY REQUESTHAT YOU APPROVE THE REZONING OF BRICK AND MORTAR AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY WITH FOUR SI SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNIT. MR. BUONODONO, WHO IS THE OW OWNER-PARTNER OF BRICK AND MORTAR IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO -- IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS JOHN SKINNER WHO IS THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT. MR. BUONODONO, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND YOUR POSITION? >> WELL, I WOULD -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: R. BUONODONO, HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN? >> I AM SORRY, NO, I HAVE NOT. >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TR TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. CONTINUE ON, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WELL, WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY LAST YEAR. IT WAS A FORECLOSURE WHICH I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IT WAS -- QUOTE, UNQUOTE, FORMER CRACK HOUSE THAT I GUESS HAD BEEN TORN DOWN. LIKE I SAID, WE PURCHASED IT FROM BANK OF AMERICA. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY WAS BEING USED, YOU KNOD VEHICLES AND FOR -- YOU KNOW, FOR DRUG USE AND -- AND PROPERTY WITH THE INTENT AND VISION OF BUILDING TOWN HOMES DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPERTY ON TAMPA STREET. YOU KNOWING ABOUT A THREE-LANE ROAD. I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MYSELF FOR OVER TEN YEARS. AND UNDERSTAND THE -- THE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT I FEEL ON TAMPA STREET IT IS REALLY THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE PROPERTY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE NEIGHBORS WITH -- WITH HAVING NOT ONLY FRONT PORCHES ON THE FIRST -- BUILDINGS LIKE HE SAID, WE HAVE PARKING IN THE REAR. THE BEST FEATURE IS ROOFTOP TERRACE THAT OVERLOOKS DOWNTOWN. SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THE COMMUNITY. TO PROPERTY VALUES AND WE ARE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. >> AND JOHN SKINNER WITH KE KENNER, ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT IS AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KENNARD S&P. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL QUESTIONS? DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANY. DO YOU WANT TOP WRAP UP? -- DO YOU WANT TO WRAP UP? >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WILL BE HOPE THAT RESPOND ANY QUESTIONS Y MAY HAVE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THESE SNAKE I HAD ONE QUESTION. DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET -- SO -- SO THESE GARAGES ARE GOING TO BE FACING ADELADE, CORRECT? >> NO, SIR. THESE GARAGES WILL BE FACING SOUTH TO THE REAR -- TOWARD THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. AND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THERE AN ALLEY THERE? >> NO, SIR. I BELIEVE THERE USED TO BE AN ALLEY THERE BUT IT HAS BEEN VACATED. SO THE ANSWER IS, NO, WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT USING -- THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NOT AN EXISTING ALLEY THAT WE CAN USE FOR ACCESS TO THE SOUTH -- ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHERE ARE THE CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF. ARE THEY COMING OUT OF TAMPA -- >> SURE. NO, THAT -- THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. MR. COUNCILMAN. THE CAR -- THE CORES ARE -- THEY ARE CONNECTING -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN THAT WE -- THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED, WE HAVE WE ARE PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL CURB CUT ON ADELAIDE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE CARS WILL BE ENTERING FROM ADELAIDE STREET AND TRAVEL SOUTH ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPER PROPERTY AND THEN EAST ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY UNTIL THEY ENTER THE GARAGES ON THE REAR SIDE OF -- THE REAR OF THE TOWN HOME UNITS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GOT IT. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T SEE THAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC. BUT YOU STILL MAINTAIN -- YOU WILL MAINTAIN A BUFFER ON THE WEST SIDE FOR YOUR WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR? >> NOT ONLY TO THE WEST -- TO THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBOR BUT ALSO TO THE SOUTH SIDE NEIGHBOR WE ARE PROVIDING A CONSIDERABLY SEPARATION -- BUILDING SEPARATION BETWEEN THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES AND THE PROPERTY LINE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THIS. >>CLERK: NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >>AILEEN ROSARIO: AILEEN ROSARIO, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. TWO PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. LINE THEM UP. AND MA'AM -- >> SORRY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ASK TO YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND SWEAR YOU IN. >> HI, I HAVE ALREADY BEEN SWORN IN. MY NAME IS TAYLOR WOLF. NORTH TAMPA STREET. THAT BLUE HOUSE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT EARLIER. THIS WILL DIRECTLY EFFECT ME. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY. FOUR UNITS KIND OF SEEMS LARGE. AND YOU WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT ACCESS FOR THE CARS, SO ADELAIDE IS ALREADY A NARROW STREET AN ONE OF THE OLDER STREETS, BRICK STREETS. AND IT IS NOT REALLY WELL PAVED. THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE TRAFFIC. I AM NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THIS IN GENERAL, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BETTER OPTIONS OR MAYBE TWO UNITS INSTEAD OF FOUR, BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT BUFFER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE CARS TO GET IN AND OUT. IT IS PRETTY CLOSE NOW. HE SPOKE EARLIER OF IT BEING USED FOR CRACK USE. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING CURR CURRENTLY. I LIVED THERE FOR A YEAR. I AM A TAMPA NATIVE. AND THERE IS A OAK TREE ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS A PROTECTED TREE. DOES THAT GET REMOVED AS WELL? BECAUSE I HAVE AN OAK TREE THAT I CAN'T MOVE EITHER NEXT ON MY EASEMENT. GU DO CONTINUE -- IF YOU GUYS DO ALLOW IT TO BE DONE, IS THIS GOING GOING TO BE USED FOR RENTALS? IS IT -- YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING THAT. AIRBNBS? BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW -- NOT ME PERSONALLY BUT A FEW AIRBNBS FURTHER DOWN THE STREET. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR. IF NOT, IS THERE GOING TO BE A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION FOR THE TOWN HOUSES THAT RULES HAVE TO BE UPHELD. JUST SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO EFFECT ME BECAUSE I LE NEXT DOOR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WAY WAY NEXT DOOR. ARE YOU ACROSS THE STREET TO THESE OR TO THE SIDE. >> TO THE SIDE. I LIVE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET. MY HOUSE IS RIGHT HERE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT? >> TO THE LEFT OF THE PROPERTY, I THINK. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE NORTH SIDE. >> THE BLUE HOUSE YOU ASKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE FENCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL SEEING THAT. THE STREET IS NARROW AND ONE WAY. I AM TRYING TO IMAGINE WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL BRING IF YOU HAVE FOUR UNITS AND ALSO THE PARKING SPACE IS QUESTIONABLE AS WELL. I AM NOT SUPER OPPOSED TO IT BUT MAYBE TWO UNITS LIKE YOU SPOKE OF LIKE THE OTHER ONE AT ARMATURE WORKS. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST NEW THINGS COMING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF IT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY EFFECT ME, THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE WILL TRY TO GET ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS WHEN THE GENTLEMAN COMES BACK. YOU CAN WATCH FROM THE OTHER ROOM AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE OTHER PERSON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING, BRIAN SEAL, 313 WEST PARK AVENUE. YOU ARE NOT SEEING THINGS. I AM PHYSICALLY IN PERSON AFTER PUTTING MY KIDS TO BED BECAUSE I DID NOT REREGISTER FOR THIS VIRTUALLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE LAST TIME WE SAW YOU, YOU WERE LOCKED IN THE CLOSET. >> THEY LET ME OUT. BUT I WANTED TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK ON THIS ON MY OWN BEHALF. NOT ON TRAFFIC OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION. HE WAS ACCURATE IN THE STATEMENT. POTION.RD DID NOT TAKE A WE HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY WITH A LOT OF ACTIVE REZONINGS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WHAT I CAN SAY THAT THE BOARD WAS SPLIT ON THIS ONE. THERE WERE SOME IN FAVOR. SOME OPPOSED. SO NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. BUT PERSONALLY, HE ALSO MENTIONED WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE REAR ENTRY AS OPPOSED TO FR FRONT-FACING GARAGES. UPHOLDS THE CONSISTENCY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE GET INTO THE ISSUE SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE AND PRECEDENCE IN A MAYOR ZONING. RS-50 ZONE AND PD. UPZONING TO ALLOW FOUR UNITS WITH A GREATER DENSITY IN A SINGLE-FAMILY OWN AREA. WE WELCOME FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD DENSITY WHERE IT IS ZONED FOR SUCH AND APPROPRIATE. THE ONE THING THIS PROPERTY IS GOING FOR IT IS ON NORTH TAMPA STREET. A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN BEING INTERIOR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I PERSONALLY DO NOT THINK THE DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND I WILL LEAVE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT. ANDHANKOU F YOUR TIME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. SEAL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SEAL? NOT HEARING ANY. WE WILL HEAR BACK FROM THE PETITIONER IN REBUTTAL. >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY. I WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL VERY BRIEFLY AND I DON'T KNOW IF MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING, BUT THE QUESTIONS RAISED AND IS BEFORE YOU AND THE ISSUE OF RENTALS ANDIRBNARE NOT RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION. SO -- IT WOULD BE ADVISED FOR THE PETITIONER TO NOT HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT DIRECTLY BECAUSE THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOUR DECISION. AND MY -- THIS IS BY WAY OF EXPLANATION. MY APOLOGIES TO THE SPEAKER WHO WANTED THOSE ANSWERS. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS HEARING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT. AND -- I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL APPRECIATES THAT. BEFORE WE HEAR BACK, I WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF WITH REGARD TO THE -- TO THE ALLEGED LIVE OAK. I AM SEEING THE LIVE OAK ON THE SITE PLAN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS BEING REMOVED. SO -- OKAY. AARON, ARE YOU OUR -- ERIN, ARE YOU OUR TREE STAFF? >> I AM WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, ERIN MAYOR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN? >> I HAVE NOT. >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, MA'AM. TELL PUTS LIVE OAK. >> ALMOST IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. ABOUT THE NORTHEASTERN -- WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE CROWN IS ABOUT 64 FEET BY 86 FEET IN DIMENSION. SO A LOT OF THE CROWN EXTENDS PRETTY FAR ACROSS THIS PROPERTY. IT ALSO BRANCHES PRETTY LOW, AND WITH THE HEIGHT OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, THE AMOUNT OF PRUNING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO SAVE THIS TREE DURING CONSTRUCTION IS -- IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SAVE THIS TREE WITH PRUNING. AND IT FALLS PRETTY MUCH RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THIS LOT. UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS RAED A C-9 WHICH WAS RATED HAZARDOUS DUE TO DEAD WOOD IN THE CROWN OF THE TREE AND ALSO THERE WAS AN OLD DRIVEWAY ON THIS LOT, AND THE ROOTS ARE COMPAJTED ON THREE SIDES OF THE ROOT PLATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE BASED ON ITS CONDITION AND LOCATION. >> YESSIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY WILL HAVE TO REPLACE IT ON-SITE OR WITH OFF-SITE CONTRIBUTION. >> EXACTLY, YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN YOU ASK HOW MANY -- HOW MANY TREES ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED SOMEWHERE ELSE OR ON THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE REMOVAL OF THE TREES ON-SITE? >> LET'S SEE -- CONSULT THE TREE TABLE HERE. WELL THERE ARE A FEW A FEW T TREES ARE RATED DANGEROUS ON-SITE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SORRY I ASKED YOU THE $64,000 QUESTION. >> I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LOOK THIS ONE UP. LET'S SEE. ALSO AN EXEMPT TREE. EXEMPT SPECIES ON THE LOT. THE BLACK CHERRY. C 9, D 9. THE LIVE OAKORTHOUR MITIGATION TREES ON-SITE AND THE ADDITIONAL TREES -- WHERE IS THE TREE TABLE. HERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. TOTAL MITIGATION TREES REQUIRED ARE -- WELL, 19 TREES ARE REQUIRED. BUT THEY ARE ASKING THE WAIVER TO PAY INTO THE APPLICABLE TREE TRUST FUND FOR MITIGATION TR TREES. >> THANK YOU, ERIN. MR. MIRANDA, ANYTHING ELSE? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING ELSE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS HER RAIN. WELCOME ABOARD. >> THANK YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY. MR. GROUSE. YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAN REBUT. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, PERHAPS, GO OVER IN THE SITE PLAN FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR PROPOSED NEW NEIGHBOR THE TRAFFIC FLOW. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SHE WAS --E SITE PLAN HOW THE CARS GO IN. AND SPEAK TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON THIS SUPPOSED SMALL STREET. SMALL BRICK STREET. AND THEN THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED BY BOTH FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING INSTEAD OF RS-50, WHICH PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ALLOWED TWO UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, YOU ARE ASKING FOR FOUR. >> YES. MAY I SHARE MY SCREEN. AND AIM SHOWING THE SITE PLAN OR AIM SHOWING MY PRESENTATION IF I MAY ASK THAT QUESTION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU CAN SHOW THE SITE PLAN AND SHOW HOW THAT TRAFFIC GOES IN. THE YOUNG LADY NEXT DOOR WAS ASKING ABOUT WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GO IN AND OUT OF AND HOW IT WILL GET TO THE GARAGE. >> SURE. I HAVE TWO SCREENS ON MY COMPUTER, SO I AM CONCERNED. I AM NOT SHOWING THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE CAN SEE THE SITE PLAN. USE YOUR ARROW AND SHOW US HOW CARS GO IN AND OUT. >> YES, SIR. SO THIS IS -- WENT AWAY. THIS IS -- SUBMITTED THE LAST UPDATED SITE PLAN. TRANSPORTATION ONLY HAD ONE MINOR COMMENT REGARDING OUR ACCESS. BUT THIS -- THIS UP HERE IS ADELAIDE STREET. I BELIEVE OUR NEIGHBOR IS THE -- THE LADY WHO INQUIRED ABOUT OUR PROJECT EARLIER IS -- LIVES RIGHT HERE ON THIS SIDE OF ADELAIDE STREET. SO ADELAIDE STREET IS, YOU K KNOW, HAS -- HAS BRICK OR -- BRICK PAVEMENT. 24 FEET WIDE. AND THE ACCESS WILL BE OFF ADELAIDE FROM THE ACCESS. THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND THE CARS AND VEHICLES WILL GO SOUTH AND THEN THEY WILL GO EAST AND THEN THEY WILL ENTER E FO UNI HERE ON THEON THE T TWO-CAR GARAGE THAT BRICK AND MORTAR IS PROPOSING ON EACH UNIT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE OTHER CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED WAS THE QUANTITY. THE NUMBER OF UNITS PERIOD. YOU KNOW, IT IS RS-50. RS-50 NOW AND LOOKING FOR A PD FOR FOUR UNITS. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT OAR ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO? >> YES, SIR. THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS R-20, WHICH WOULD SO WE ARE ONLY PROPOSING FOUR UNITS. AND THAT WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT WAS EARLIER INDICATED BY ZANE IN HIS PRESENTATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO WRAP UP WITH? >> NO, JUST WANT TO SAY FEW THINGS THAT ARE VERY KEY TO THIS PROPOSED SITE PLAN. NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE -- WE ARE PROVIDING NINE PARKING SPACES. ONE OF THEM IS FOR VISITORS WHICH IS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT I AM SHOWING RIGHT HERE. THIS SITE PLAN HAS BEEN DRASTICALLY MODIFIED IF I MAY USE THAT WORD FROM WHAT WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED TO STAFF. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO BUILDINGS -- TWO DUPLEXES ON THIS PROPERTY. SEPARATED BY ABOUT 10 FEET. WE HAD INITIALLY PROSED A CURB CUT RATHER THAN ADELAIDE STREET. WE WERE PROPOSING ONE ON NORTH TAMPA STREET RIGHT HERE AT THIS LOCATION. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE DENIED OUR REQUEST TO CONNECT TO NORTH TAMPA STREET BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. WE PROACTIVELY COMMUNICATED WITH THEM, SET UP A -- SCHEDULED A MEETING. I BELIEVE ONE OF THE D.O.T. -- F. D.O.T. REPS PARTICIPATED IN THE MEETING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA. AND I AM NOT SURE IF IT WAS RECIPROCATED FROM STAFF -- FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TRANSPORTATION WHEN WE MET WITH D.O.T., BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE COULD NOT CONNECT HERE TO NORTH TAMPA STREET. SO THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE HAD WAS TO -- INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO DUPLEXES, TWO BUILDINGS SEPARATED AND WE HAD TO JUST PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEN HAVE THE SPACE -- WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE -- FOR THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING PRETTY LARGE BUFFER. ALMOST 30 FEET. AND ALSO 30 FEET TO THE SOUTH. AND THE -- BECAUSE OF THE FDOT OR FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DENIAL, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN OR THE PLAN THAT CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> NO. THIS IS JOHN KENNER. DO YOU HEAR ME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN? >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN. >>CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT H HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT YOU WILL TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN? >> THAT WILL BE HELPFUL BOTH FOR THE TRAFFIC PATTERN AND I WANT TO REITERATE AND AS I HAVE SEEN IN OTHER CASES. WHEN I FIRST GOT INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR SINGLE CAR GARAGES OFF OF ADELAIDE STREET. AS A PLANN, I WAS IMMEDIATELY OPPOSED TO THAT. SO I PROPOSED A REDESIGN OF THE SITE SO WE CAN BE MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED. FACE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO KEEP THIS MORE OF A PART OF THE STREET RATHER THAN A SEPARATION. AND UNFORTUNATELY, TRANSPORTATION DIDN'T ALLOW US TO CONNECT THE TAMPA TREAT, AND SO WE MADE SOME SACRIFICES TO ACCOMMODATE TRANSPORTATION. AND UNFORTUNATELY THE ALWAYS BENEFIT THECARS DON'T NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK WE HAVE MADE PRETTY GOOD ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEEDS AND STILL BRING A RESIDENTIAL SCALE. WE DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE ADDRESSING ADELAIDE. AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY PROVIDING FRONT PORCHES. AND IN KEEPING THE VEHICLES IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY BELONG. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU GUYS WANT TO WRAP UP. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE THING, IF I MAY. YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU SEE THE TYPE OF PLAN. YOU MIGHT THINK OF RACING THE FOUR UNITS TOWARD TAMPA STREET, BUT IN THAT CONSIDERATION, WE WILL HAVE TO BE -- WE WILL HAVE A SIDE FACADE FACING ADELAIDE STREET WHICH IN THAT CASE I THINK IT WILL NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. JOE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT THAT REAL QU QUICK? >> WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FRONTAGE TO DO THE BUILDINGS FACING THAT WAY. AND WE FELT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE END USEAS WL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR FRONT PORCHES TO FACE THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS A TH THREE-LANE ROAD AND FALLS IN WITH THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT, YOUR TIME IS OFF. GENTLEMEN, WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTION. MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM JUST GOING TO COMPARE -- IN DOING -- BETWEEN THIS ONE AND THE ANOTHER ONE THAT WE JUST HAD WITH FOUR UNITS. IN LOT I BELIEVE IS 10,890 SQUARE FEET. IF MY -- THE ONE BEFORE WAS 8316 FEET. SO 2574 FEET LARGER ON THIS ONE THAN THE OTHER ONE, FOR THE RECORD, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE? >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 9. LOST TRACK OF WHO MIGHT WANT TO GO NEXT. MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES. I CAN GO, YES, SIR. I MOVE AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3018 NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION BY MR. VIERA AND SECOND BY MR. MANISCALCO. A ROLL CALL VOTE. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COMMENT, THAT IS FINE. I WILL SAY THAT I WILL SUPPORT THIS ON TWO DIFFERENT BASES THAT DO DIFFERENTIATE FROM AN EARLIER PROJECT. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ON THEIR OWN, BUT I WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MR. MIRANDA THIS IS A LARGER LOT BY PERHAPS 20% LARGER. AND ALSO THE REAR LOADING. YOU KNOW, THERE EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO URGE THE LAST PROJECT TO DO, WHICH IS TO REAR LOAD SO YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT DRIVEWAYS COMING OFF OF THIS PROJECT. INSTEAD ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS ARE IN THE BACK OF THE PROJECT THAT NOBODY WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT. SO I CAN SUPPORT THIS -- THIS PROJECT. EVEN IF -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- IT IS SLIGHTLY LARGER, YOU K KNOW, THEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ADD TO MR. VIERA. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST SAYS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT TO ENSURE THERE IS ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND PLAN FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES TO ACCOMMODATE AND PROTECT THE POPULATION, THE DENSITY PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXCEED THE DENSITY EQUITABLE TO PURSUANT TO 8.14.1 AND CONSISTENT WITH POLICY 2 2.1.2 AND HOUSING POLICY 173.4 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT LAND AND UNDERUTILIZED AND DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROPOSES -- ALSO PROMOTE THE SUFFICIENT AND SUBSTANTIAL USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MR. MIRANDA. DO YOU ACCEPT THOSE COMMENTS MR. VIERA AS PART OF YOUR MOTION? >>LUIS VIERA: CAN HE REPEAT THAT? [LAUGHTER] >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SEND YOU A VIDEOTAPE. >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GOOD WITH THAT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA ACCEPTED THE COMMENTS OF MR. MIRANDA AS PART OF HIS MOTION. MR. MANISCALCO SECONDED IT. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. >>BILL CARLSON: NO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>CLERK: AND GUDES. MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTE NOTHING AND GUDES ABSENT AT VOTE. SECOND SEPTEMBER 30 AT 9:30 A.M. SECOND READING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HEARD THAT? >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVE TONIGHT LAST ITEM OF THE EVENINGS REZ-21-66. MR. HUSAIN. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZANE HUSAIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT TOWARD NATN. ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ-21-66. THE PROPERTY IS 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE FROM RS-50 TO PD, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. I WILL PASS IT ALONG TO DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE. IT'S SHOWN HERE ON OUR -- ON OUR VISION MAP. THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS PLYMOUTH PLAYGROUND LOCATED ONE MIE TO THE NORTHEAST OF THE SITE, THE SITE IS WITHIN PROXIMITY OF TRANSIT. AND THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE. AN AERIAL MAN OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. IT IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST STREET AND WEST WOODROW AVENUE. AND ONE BLOCK EAST OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND PREDOMINANTLY SURROUNDED BRESIDENTIAL USES. THERE ARE SOME NONRESIDENTIAL USES ALONG NORTH BOULEVARD WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE WEST OF THE SITE. THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP. THE SUBJECT SITES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION. IT IS SURROUNDED BY THAT RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH, DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS SMU-6. AND THEN THERE IS A POCKET OF RESIDENTIAL 20 TO THE SOUTH -- SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE. FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR ONE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL UNIT AT AN OVERALL OF 8.33 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION. FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL ALLOW FOR D FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SIMILAR IN FORM, HEIGHT AND SCALE TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES FOUND ALONG NORTH WOOD ROE AVENUE. ADDITIONALLY -- WOODROW AVENUE, ADDITIONALLY AND OF HOUSING OF THE CITY'S POPULATION. AND TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S FUTURE POPULATION AND WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE. BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLINS. HEARING NONE, MR. HUSAIN. >>ZANE HUSAIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NE HAIN, PLANNING COORDINATION. THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE IS KEVIN ROBLES. THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE. REQUESTING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED. NO WAIVERS REQUESTED HERE. AS WE LOOK AT THE PLAT HERE, YOU WILL SEE THE LOT IS HERE SHADED IN BLUE. LOT ONE OF BLOCK E. THE PROPOSED -- PROPOSED PD TO AE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED LOT. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED HERE WHERE THE SHADING IS ON THE CW BLACK'S SECOND SUBDIVISION. LITTLE BRIEF BIT OF THIS LOT. PER THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, LOTS TWO AND THREE TO THE NORTH HERE ARE IN COMMON OWNERSHIP BY LANDRY LEAPER AND AMY F FALKENBERG. AND SIVIT Z PURCHASED ALL THREE LOTS AND DAVID AND LESLIE SIVITS SOLD TO LEAPER AND VOLKENBERG AND RETAINED LOT O ONE. WHEN SOLD TWO AND THREE CREATED NONCONFORMING LOT ONE AND THE STRUCTURE OF LOT ONE. AND AS WE SEE THE OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE IN RED. YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE -- SORRY -- YOU WILL SEE YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY AT THE NORTHWEST AN ALSO NORTH WOODROW AVENUE INTERSECTION. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT WITH DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIALS TO THE -- RESIDENCES TO ITS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND OFFICE USE AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO THE W WEST. AS WE COME HERE AND LOOKING AT THE NON -- AT THE CONFORMING MAP, YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED AND ALSO HATCHED IN BLACK. THE OVERALL ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDED 230 ZONING LOTS. 164 OF THESE LOTS OR 71% OF THESE LOTS HAVE A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND 66 OR 29% OF THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 49.99 FEET OR LESS. THE SUBJECT LOT CONTAINS THREE ZONING LOTS, TWO -- OR 67% OF THESE LOTS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A 50 FEET OR GREATER AND ONE -- OR 33% HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 49.99 OR LESS. THE 3000 BLOCK OF NOR WOOOW AVENUE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS SEVEN LOTS. 5% OR 71% OF THE LOTS DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH GREATER OF 50 FEET. TWO OF THE LOTS, 29% OF THE LOTS HAVE A WIDTH OF 49.99 OR LESS. THE BLOCK FACE HERE CONTAINS THREE TOTAL ZONING LOTS. TWO OF THE LOTS HAVE 67% WITH A WIDTH OF 50 FEET OR GREATER AND ONE OF THOSE LOTS OR 33% HAVE A OR LESS. 49.99 FEET. WITH THESE FINDINGS, STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL AREA, BLOCK, AND BLOCK FACE. AS WE COME HERE, WE'LL SEE THE PROPOSED TWO-STORY MASONRY RESIDENCE HERE ON THE SITE PLAN, AND THE ONE-STORY MASONRY DETACHED GARAGE ALSO TO THE WEST. AS I GO TO THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE SITE. TO T EAST OF THE SITE YOU'LL SEE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY. TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE YOU'LL SEE A PROPOSES REZONING ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY. DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. IT SHOULD BE THE -- SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION, FURTHER MODIFICATIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND READING. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED. I'M AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSAIN? I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO YOUR COLORFUL AND VERY MATHEMATICAL MAP, SO MATHEMATICAL THAT MR. MIRANDA MIGHT WANT TO JOIN FORCES WITH YOU. HE IS THE KING OF MATH AROUND HERE. ALL RIGHT. USE YOUR CURSOR AND SHOW US THE SUBJECT PARCEL, IF YOU WOULD YOU WERE SHOWING US EARLIER THE PARCELS THAT THE -- THE MOTHER PARCELS OKAY ORIGINALLY SO ALL THREE OF THOSE PARCELS, THE RED, RED, AND THEN HATCHED WERE THE ORIGINAL MOTHER PARCELS? >>ZAIN HUSAIN: JUST THE BIG LOT ABOVE IT, CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST THE LARGE LOT ABOVE IT. >>ZAIN HUSAIN: CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SUSAN, YOUR HAND WAS UP. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, I HOPE TO TRY TO CLARIFY THIS. YES, THE RED, THE LARGE LOT JUST TO THE NOR WAS PART OF THE MOTHER PARCEL, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT. AND THIS LOT ON THE CORNER, THE BLUE HATCH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WAS PULLED OFF IN 2018. YOU HEARD ZAIN REFER TO SIVETTS, THAT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER OF LOT ONE, AND PRIOR TO 2018, THEY WERE THE OWNERS OF LOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE. SO THERE WAS UNIFIED OWNERSHIP OF THIS PARCEL, AND IN 2018, THE PROPERTY OWNER SOLD OFF LOT ONE. AND IN DOING SO CREATED THIS NONCFORMG LOT AND THEY ALSO CREATED A NONCONFORMITY FOR THE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE REMAINING LOT THAT THEY SOLD BECAUSE NOW THAT LOT, THE HOME ON THAT LOT ENCROACHES INTO THE SETBACK ON THAT PROPERTY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THERE'S ONLY ONE HOME TO THE NORTH, IS THAT CORRECT, ZAIN? >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THAT'S CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SUSAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, NOT AT THIS TIME, UNLESS YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. [FIVE-MINUTE BREAK] >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE. >> CITRO? >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE. >> VIERA? >> [INAUDIBLE] CHARACTER CLERK WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. ALL RIGHT, WHERE WERE WE. I THINK WE WERE READY FOR THE PETITIONER, AM I RIGHT? >>THE CLERK: THAT'S CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBLES, INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN? HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN AT? >> MY NAME IS KEVIN ROBLES. 2107 CHESTNUT FOREST DRIVE. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. FOR THE RECORD, I DISCOVERED SEVERAL ERRORS ON THE EXISTING LOT PATTERN MAP. I DIDEND IN TO COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHAT SEEMED TO BE ABOUT FIVE HOURS AGO INDIVIDUAL PACKETS WHICH SHOWS THE MAPS FOR YOUR ALL'S PLEASURE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. BRYAN BROUGHT THEM IN ON YOUR BEHALF. I ASSUME ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS GOT THEM EXCEPT FOR MR. VIERA BECAUSE -- >> I HAVE IT IN THE OVERHEAD AS WELL. I'VE GOT IT ON THE OVERHEAD. THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE EASIER. FOR THE RECORD, WE DISCOVERED SEVERAL ERRORS ON THEXISTG LOT PATTERN MAP PRODUCED BY THE CITY'S ZONING STAFF AS IT TRANSLATES INTO PAGE THREE OF THE STAFF REPORT. THE ZONING STAFF'S MAP ERRONEOUSLY IDENTIFIED 55 PARCELS, 24 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL LOT IN THE ANALYSIS THAT ARE EITHER ZONED RM-16, RM-18, CG, RO, AND PD FOR OFFICE AND SCHOOL USES AND ARE NOT RS ZONING. THOSE LOTS ARE X'D OUT ON THE MAP YOU'LL SEE IN BCK WITH THE EXPLANATIONS OF THE ERRONEOUSLY INCLUDING THEM IN THEIR COUNTS. SO I WANTED TO BRING COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO THAT, WHICH SORT OF BRINGS THE STUDY AREA DOWN AND BRINGS THE NUMBERS DOWN. THOSE LOTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT -- IN THE MAP NOR HAVE THEY HISTORICALLY BEEN INCLUDED IN THE MAP IN THE LOT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANALYSIS FOR THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DEVEPMENIN RS 50 ZONING DISTRICT, LET ALONE IN ANY RS ZONING. THE SUBSEQUENT STEPS ERROR WAS MADE BY ZONING STAFF IN THE SETUP OF THEIR STUDY ASIDE FROM THIS, THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY CHOSE TO ANALYZE ALONG WITH THE FINDINGS MADE THE STAFF REPORT EXCEPTIONALLY LIMITED IN SCOPE PROVIDED COUNCIL WITH A VERY ELEMENTARY REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. FURTHERMORE, IN 2019, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A DOMAIN HOMES REZONING, REZ 19-40, WITHIN THE SAME STUDY AREA, AUTHORIZING% DEVELOPMENT OF TWO PLATTED LOTS, MEASURING 44 AND 45 FEET WIDE IN WHICH ZONING STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT. THIS IS A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PD. AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE LOTS ARE 44 AND 45 FEET WIDE. ON THE 2019 REZONE. UNFORTUNATELY, ZONING STAFF OMITTED THE LOGICAL AND NECESSARY ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE ORIGINAL PLAT FOR COUNCIL TO REFERENCE THE FOLLOWING FACTS ARE BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT. I'M GOING TO PLACE W.C. BLACK'S SECOND EDITION PLAT UP THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. IF I TAKE THE ORIGINAL WC, ORIGINAL SECOND EDITION PLAT, WHICH IS INCLUSIVE HERE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE ORIGINAL PLAT WAS PLATTED IN 1918. THERE'S FIVE TOTAL BLOCKS IN THE PLAT. THERE'S 79 TOTAL PLATTED LOTS. FOUR OF THE LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 38.6 FEET IN WIDTH. 44 OF THE LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 40-FOOT WIDTH. 6 LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 40.7 FEET, AND 20 LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 44-FOOT WIDTH. ONE LOT IS PLATTED AT 44.7 WIDTH. ONLY FOUR PLATTED LOTS AT 55.2 FEET IN WIDTH. THE 52 ZONING LOTS, EXCLUDING THE RM 18 AND THE RESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND THE PD FOR OFFICE USES, 32 OF THE 52, 61.5% OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT LOTS IN THIS PLAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH, SPECIFICALLY AS FOLLOWS, ONE LOT AT 30 WIDE, ONE LOT AT 38.6 WIDE. 22 LOTS AT 40 WIDE. FIVE LOTS AT 40.7 WIDE. ONE LOT AT 41-FOOT WIDE. TWO LOTS AT 44-FOOT WIDE AS PLATTED, NOT INCLUDING THE SUBJECT LOT. ONLY THREE HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2000 ON ALL THE LOTS MEASURING ON LOTS MEASURING 40 FEET IN WIDTH. IT'S OUR ASSERTION THAT OUR REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND CAUSES NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA OR PATTERN. BASED ON THE FACTS OUTLINED ABOVE, COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT BOTH THE ZONING STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PD, THE SAME PD IN THE SE STUDY AREA FOR THE SAME USE ON SIMILAR SIZE LOTS, DOMAIN HOMES RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS THE APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. AND SO THE ESSENCE OF WHY WE'RE HERE ON THE PD IS SIMPLY THAT THE LOTS IN OVER IN THIS PARTICULAR -- C [ NO ENCODER ] >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. HUSAIN. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU THINK, SIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. ROBLES, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, SINCE YOU HAVE SORT OF CALLED INTO QUESTION STAFF'S MAP, I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US, WHAT YOU'VE SHOWN US. I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR. AND THEN YOU WILL GET THE LAST WORD IN REBUTTAL. >> THAT'S FINE. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HUSAIN HAS THIS MAP, BUT I'VE LEFT IT UP HERE ON THE SCREEN IF HE CAN OBSERVE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GO AHEAD AND PUT IT UP SO MR. HUSAIN CAN HAVE THE BENEFIT. IN THE FUTURE, TRY AND GET THAT TO STAFF IN ADVANCE OF THE HEARING, OF COURSE. >> WE JUST RECEIVED THIS FROM STAFF 48 HOURS AGO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. >> I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT AS WELL. WE WENT THROUGH A DRC HEARING AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADVERSE COMMENTS FROM STAFF AT THAT TIME. SO WHEN WE RECEIVED THE REPORT 48 HOURS AGO, THAT'S WHEN IT WAS DEEMED INCONSISTENT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FAIR ENOUGH. MR. HUSAIN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL THE NEED TO SAY ANYTHING AS RELATED TO THIS AND/OR THE OTHER PLAT MAP, THE ORIGINAL PLAT MAP. BUT IF YOU WISH TO, WE'RE GIVING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY. >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR. ZAIN HUSAIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION. NUMBER ONE, THE REPORTS WERE PROVIDED LAST THURSDAY, A WEEK AGO. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, PROVING THAT THE CONFORMING MAP IS PROVIDED BY THE CITY STAFF MAPPING DEPARTMENT. WE FIRST LOOK AT THE 1,320 FEET RADIUS, SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND THEN WE TAPER IN. WE TAPER INTO THE BLOCK, THE BLOCK FACE, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET SO IT'S MORE CONCENTRATED TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA HAS AROUND IT WITHIN THE 1,320 FEET. BUT THIS IS FROM OUR MAPPING DEPARTMENT HERE WITH THE CITY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKA ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? >>ZAIN HUSAIN: NOT AT THIS TIME, NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, MR. DINGFELDER. SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT. I DID WANT TO COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO MR. ROBLES' POINTING OUT OF THE PRIOR APPROVED PD. AS COUNCIL IS WELL AWARE, YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE EACH REZONING APPLICATION ON ITS OWN MERITS WITH THE SPECIFIC LOCATION AND THE SITE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT AND NOT ANY PRIOR REZINGS WHICH ARE IRRELEVANT TO YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL. YOU CAN SEE I'VE GOT MY READING GLASSES ON. I CAN HARDLY READ ANY OF THIS. SO THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE AS FAR AS THE PLATTED LOTS, I MEAN, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE ARE ANY REMAINING PLATTED LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN THIS RS 50 ZONING DISTRICT, I DON'T KNOW, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYESTINY THAT THEY WERE RE-CREATED OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE DEVELOPED AS ORIGINALLY PLATTED. IN THIS CASE, THIS LOT, AGAIN, AS WE HAD SAID BEFORE, WAS NOT DEVELOPED AS ORIGINALLY PLATTED. AND IT'S CREATED THIS NONCONFORMITY, ACTUALLY TWO NONCONFORMITIES IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED BOTH WITH THE RE-CREATING OF THE SUBSTANDARD LOT, WHICH DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM LOT STANDARDS FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT OR FOR ANY ZONING DISTRICT, REALLY. THE RS 50, AS YOU KNOW, IS THE SMALLEST ZONING LOT WITHINHE CITY. WHEN THERE WAS UNIFIED OWNERSHIP, THERE WEREN'T ANY NONCONFORMITIES. THERE WAS ONE UNIFIED LOT THAT MET THE MINIMUM ZONING LOT SIZE AND STANDARDS, AND THE RESULT OF THIS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TWO LOTS THAT NOW WOULD BE NONCONFORMING. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF OR TO MR. ROBLES? I HAVE A QUESTION. MR. ROBLES, DO YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER, MR. AND MRS. SIVETTS WITH YOU APART OF YOUR PRESENTATION? >> NO, I DO NOT. MRS. SIVETTS IS HOME WITH COVID. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OH, I'M SORRY. MY CONCERN AND MY QUESTION, MR. ROBLES, IS I THINK STAFF OR LEGAL STAFF IS INDICATING THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP HERE, THE LOT WAS SPLIT OUT. NOW, GRANTED, IT WASN'T DONE YESTERDAY. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS A WHILE BACK, SIX, SEVEN EIG YEARS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF MS. SIVETTS WAS HERE, I WOULD ASK HER WAS SHE AWARE THAT SHE WAS CREATING A NONCONFORMING LOT 40 SOMETHING FEET WIDE IN AN RS 50. HAVE YOU HAD A DISCUSSION -- I THINK WE CAN BE LOOSE ON HEARSAY IN THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL FORUM. HAVE YOU HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HER ON THAT ISSUE? >> YES, SIR. IN FACT, I DID. SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT SHE CREATED AN ILLEGAL, NONCONFORMING LOT. E OWNED THREE LOTS. SHE WENT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. THE PROPERTY APPRAISER ACCEPTED IT AND ASSIGNED A NEW FOLIO NUMBER TO IT. SO I THINK IN SENSITIVITY TO ALL OF IT, SOME OF THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE PRETTY INTRICATE, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A LAYPERSON THAT'S WORKING ON IT THAT OWNS LOTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY KNOW THAT THEY WERE CREATING A NONCONFORMING LOT BY SELLI LOT TWO AND THREE AND RETAINING LOT ONE. SO MUCH SO THAT WHEN SHE WENT TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE THEY ASSIGNED A DERIVATIVE FOLIO NUMBER TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. NOW, I THINK TODAY'S STANDARDS, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DOES NOT ASSIGN FOLIO NUMBERS AND REFUSES TO INGEST THEM WITHOUT SOME DETERMINATION FROM CITY AND ZONING THAT GIVES THE PROPERTY APPRAISER COMFORT IN ISSUING A DERIVATIVE FOLIO NUMBER. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOR THE RECORD, OF WHAT'S THE YEAR -- WHAT WAS THE YEAR OF THE SEPARATION? >> CHAIRMAN DINGFELDER, I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU THAT. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A TIME THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WOULD SPLIT ANYTHING. AND NOW THEY DON'T. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN THAT OCCURRED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ? >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S RECORDS, THE LOT ONE WAS SOLD IN DECEMBER OF 2018. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. IT WASN'T FOREVER AGO. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I'M SORRY. LOTS TWO AND THREE WERE SOLD IN 2018. SO THAT IS WHEN THE NONCONFORMINGS WERE CREATED. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS WRONG. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING UP ON THREE YEARS. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, CORRECT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY ONLY OTHER CONCERN, MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, IS HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH A NONCONFORMING LOT. IF WE DENY IT, AREN'T WE DENYING ALL REASONABLE BENEFICIAL USE IN TERMS OF THAT LOT THAT'S NOW OWNED BY SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T OWN THE ADJACENT LOTS? JUST HAVE A LEGAL CONCERN WITH AN OUTRIGHT DENIAL ON THAT -- >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THEY PREVIOUSLY OWNED THE OTHER TWO LOTS. THEY PREVIOUSLY OWNED ALL THREE LOTS. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RIGHT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WOULD BE A SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP IF THEY TRIED TO MAKE THAT CLAIM. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR. IT I THINK DING A SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP IF THEY MADE THAT CLAIM. >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I BELIEVE SO. THIS IS A SELF-CREATED SITUATION. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY FOR RAMBLING THIS EVENING, GENTLEMEN. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYBODY THERE TO SPEAK? ANYBODY ON THE SECOND FLOOR? >> AILEEN ROSARIO, DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THERE IS NOBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: RYAN MANASSE. >> MR. ROBLES IS CORRECT AND I BELIEVE YO ALLUDED TO THAT AS WELL, SIR, THIS PD IS THE ONLY WAY THIS LOT CAN BE BUILDABLE. ALTHOUGH STAFF HAS ITS OPINIONS, BASED OFF OUR STAFF REPORT AND OUR FINDINGS, THEY ARE IN THE ONLY PROCESS TO GET THIS LOT BUILDABLE. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE. NOBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS HERE TO SPEAK. THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE ARE CLOSED. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM 10, REZ 21-66. MR. MANISCALCO. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3002 NORTH WOODROW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMEWT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION AS ALREADY EXPLAINED. THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THIS REALLY BUILDABLE IS TO MAKE IT A PD. SO THIS IS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS MENTIONED IN OTHER TESTIMONY THAT PD IS THE ONLY WAY -- ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS TO MAKE THIS LOT WORK. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO. WE HAVE A SECOND BY MR. CITRO. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL VOTE. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES. THE ROCK AND THE HARD PLACE COMES TO MIND. >>BILL CARLSON: YES. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES. >>LUIS VIERA: YES. >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES. >> AND GUDES? MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO. GUDES ABSENT AT VOTE. SECOND READING AND OPTION HELD SEPTEMBER 30th AT 9:30 A.M. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. HUSAIN, I'LL SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL CITY COUNCIL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. DON'T FEEL DEJECTED ON THIS CONCLUSION, AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK YOU, MR. ROBLES. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE IT. I'M THE LAST ONE. DO YOU WANT ME TO TURN OFF THE LIGHTS ON THE WAY OUT OR WHAT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU. SOMETHING ABOUT THE DOOR THERE. ANYTHING ELSE? WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS, MR. MANISCALCO. MR. SHELBY? BILL? >>BILL CARLSON: YES, HOPEFULLY A QUICK ONE. YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS AGO I MADE MOTION TO PUT ON SEPTEMBER 23rd A DISCUSSION ABOUT TO HAVE NONPROFITS WHO ARE BENEFITING THE CUBAN PEOPLE TO COME BEFORE US. SINCE THAT MOTION WAS MADE, NO NONPROFITS HAVE CONTACTED US. INITIAL SEARCH BY MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE HAS NOT TURNED UP ANY -- MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS ABOUT TO GO OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THAT CONVERSATION. AND I WOULD JUST SAY IF THERE ARENY NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING THAT, PLEASE CONTACT ME AND IN THE SHORT TERM, I COULD POST ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA AND MAYBE MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WOULD AS WELL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT ITEM AND THEN TO COME BACK AND SET A DATE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE A NONPROFITS TO PRESENT. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE TO STRIKE THE MOTION AND THEN WHEN YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK, BRING IT BACK. MARTY DOESN'T LIKE TO LEAVE THINGS HANGING OUT THERE. >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL,T WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA AND THEN RESCHEDULE WHEN YOU FEEL APPROPRIATE, OTHER THAN HAVE IT CONTINUED TO A DATE, IT FALLS INTO AN ABYSS GENERALLY. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU WANT TO PICK A DATE IN THE FUTURE JUST TO HAVE A PLACE HOLDER. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER CONTINUE IT AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH A DATE LATER. IF WE HAVE TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY, THAT'S FINE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE CLERK DOESN'T LIKE THAT EITHER. >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT THAT WE POSTPONE IT AND THEN I'LL COME BACK IN THE FUTURE WH ANOTHER DATE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS TO STRIKE IT FROM THE AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER 23rd. AND MR. CARLSON WILL COME BACK TO US WITH A LATER DATE. THERE IS A SECOND FROM MR. MANISCALCO. ANY COMMENTS? MR. VIERA, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, NO COMMENTS. I'M GOOD. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT, THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CITRO. >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HOPE THAT WE ALL REMEMBER THAT WE ARE APPROACHING THE 20th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11. AND IF WE COULD GIVE THANKS FOR THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR PROTECTING OTHERS IN NEW YORK CITY PENNSYLVANIA AND WASHINGTON, D.C., AND ALSO THANK THE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE SERVING US AND KEEPING US SAFE TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL STATED AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. MR. MIRANDA. >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WHO TURNED 88. MR. JOE -- >>JOHN DINGFELDER: GRECO? >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, BUT YOU ARE GETTING CLOSE. CAETANO. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE CAETANO. ANY OTHER BUSINESS, MADAM CLERK? MR. VIERA. >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR. I'M LAUGHING THAT WHEN YOU CALLED ON ME ON THE CUBA THING, I'M LIKE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CONTROVERSY? [ LAUGHTER ] OF COURSE, I'M JOKING. I WANTED TO MENTION, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS GENTLEMAN VERY WELL, BUT WE WOULD SEEIM AT CITY COUNCIL, STEVE MEADOWS, COURT TAMPA, DID ANY OF YOU KNOW HIM VERY WELL? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I REMEMBER HIM YES. >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT IT APPEARS THAT HE PASSED. YES, JUST IF ANYBODY, THE DISTRICT COUNCILMEN OR CITYWIDE, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO ANYTHING, I JUST BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION OBVIOUSLY. >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU. I HADN'T SEEN THAT YET. >>LUIS VIERA: CHECK ON T THA Facebook AND YOU'LL SEE IT IN CASE YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL. SEEMED LIKE A NICE GENTLEMAN. HE WOULD COME OVER HERE AND GIVE US HELL SOMETIMES. GOD REST HIS SOUL. SECOND, I WAS GOING TO MAKE THIS MOTION LAST WEEK BUT I DIDN'T HAVE THE NICE LADY NAME. I WANTED TO HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION ON APRIL 7th OF 2022 FROM TIFFANY DAVIS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. I MET HER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND SUCH A NICE LADY WITH A COMPELLING PERSONAL STORY THAT SHE SHARES PUBLICLY. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR HER TO SPEAK TO US ON THAT ISSUE. APRIL 7, 2022. >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A LENGTH OF TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FIVE MINUTES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE REGULAR MEETING. >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. VIERA MOTION. MR. CITRO SECONDED IT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU, MR. VIERA. ANYTHING ELSE? >>LUIS VIERA: NOTHING, SIR. THANK YOU. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALL RIGHT. I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING. >> RECEIVE AND FILE. >> SECOND. >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND GO BUCS. >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ADJOURNED SIR. ALSO POINT OUT,E IT IS RECOMMENDED TO APPROVAL FOR CITY COUNCIL AS PAMELA JO SAID, IT CAN NOT BE CHANGED. SO THE EXISTING PD HAS NEVER BEEN ENFORCED AND WE HOPE TO NOT REPEAT MISTAKES OF THE P PAST. WE ALL GOT A DOG IN THIS FIGHT TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF HYDE PARK AND HOPE FOR