This transcription has been updated with speaker names based on the context provided for the Minneapolis City Council meeting. [0:11] **Elliott Payne:** GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELLIOT PAYNE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR JULY 10 TO ORDER. THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [0:27] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. IS ABSENT. CASHMAN IS ABSENT. OSMAN IS ABSENT. RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** ELLISON IS ABSENT. KOSKI IS ABSENT. WONSLEY. [0:44] **Robin Wonsley:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** JENKINS IS ABSENT. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** PRESENT. **Casey Carl:** SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT. **Elliott Payne:** WE HAVE A QUORUM. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE MEETING, I WANT TO OFFER A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO ALL MEMBERS AND STAFF THAT THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE TO ENABLE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. THE BROADCAST INCLUDES REAL TIME CAPTIONING AS A FURTHER METHOD TO INCREASE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF OUR PROCEEDINGS TO THE COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE RATE OF OUR SPEECH SO OUR CAPTIONERS CAN FULLY CAPTURE AND TRANSCRIBE ALL COMMENTS FOR THE BROADCAST. ALL SPEAKERS NEED TO MODERATE THE SPEED AND CLARITY OF THEIR COMMENTS. THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING IS BEFORE US. ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE AGENDA? A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? [1:30] **Aurin Chowdhury:** SO MOVED. **Aisha Chughtai:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [1:46] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE SEVEN AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES FROM OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE JUNE 18th, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. **Linea Palmisano:** SO MOVED. **Michael Rainville:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. [2:03] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** SEVEN AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE REFERRAL OF PETITIONS COMMUNICATIONS AND REPORTS TO PROPER COMMITTEES. [2:22] **Elliott Payne:** MAY I HAVE THE MOTION. **Aurin Chowdhury:** SO MOVED. **Aisha Chughtai:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** CLERK CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** SEVEN AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THOSE MATTERS HAVE BEEN REFERRED. [2:40] **Elliott Payne:** ALSO NOTE WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE PRESENTATION OF REPORTS FROM OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THOSE ARE TAKEN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BEGINNING WITH THE REPORT OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THE CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [2:59] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE ADMINISTRATION AND ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HAS 29 ITEMS WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD. THE FIRST IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM VERSATERM FOR TWO MINNEAPOLIS POLICE EMPLOYEE REGULAR CONCENTRATIONS. TWO IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTY AND CITY HEALTH OFFICIALS OF REGULAR CONCENTRATION, LODGING, AND TRANSPORTATION. THREE IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF EMERGENCY MANAGERS OF AIR FARE, LODGING, GROUND TRANSPORTATION, AND PER DIEM. FOUR IS A GIFT ACCEPTANCE FROM THE LOCAL PROGRESS FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES. [3:40] **Robin Wonsley:** FIVE IS INDIANAPOLIS FOUNDATION GRANT TO SUPPORT OFFICE OF COMMUNITY SAFETY INTERNS. SIX A CONTRACT WITH STANTEC CONSULTING SERVICES, INC. FOR ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES. SEVEN IS A CONTRACT WITH NOVOAGLOBAL INC. EIGHT IS CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS VENDORS FOR THE 2025-2028 NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY DEPARTMENT SERVICE PROVIDER POOL. NINE IS CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS ARTISTS FOR THE NEW NICOLLET PUBLIC ART DESIGN PROJECT, PHASE II FABRICATION. 10 IS CONTRACTS WITH VARIOUS COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR SENIOR SERVICES AND SENIOR COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR SERVICES. [4:20] **Robin Wonsley:** 11 IS CONTRACTS WITH VARIATION ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE PARTNERSHIP ENGAGEMENT FUND PROJECTS. 12 IS CONTRACT WITH FIRST PERSON RESPONDER LLC FOR MEDICAL CONSULTANT SERVICES. 13 IS A CONTRACT WITH BERWALD ROOFING COMPANY FOR THE STATE PARKING RAMPS AND SKYWAYS ROOF RESTORATION PROJECT. 14 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SUNRAM CONSTRUCTION, INC. FOR THE BAN KROFT POND PROJECT. 15 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH SHEEHY CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER MEETING ROOMS REMODEL PHASE II PROJECT. 16 IS A CONTRACT WITH SAFETY SIGNS LLC FOR RENTAL OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES. 17 IS CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH GRAY MATTER SYSTEMS LLC FOR GE DIGITAL [5:07] **Robin Wonsley:** SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION SYSTEM SOFTWARE LICENSE AND SUPPORT FOR THE WATER TREATMENT AND DISTRIBUTION DIVISION. 18 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH DIRAD TECHNOLOGYINGS, INC. FOR UTILITY BILLING INTERACTIVE VOICE RESPONSE SYSTEM. 19 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH T.O.U.C.H. OUTREACH. 20 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH FORMATION HEALING ARTS FOR TRAUMA RESPONSE SERVICES FOR THE TRANS EQUITY SUMMIT. 21 IS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH VINCO INC. FOR CATCH BASIN AND MAINTENANCE HOLE REPAIRS. 22 BID FOR SHINGLE CREEK WEST ADA PEDESTRIAN RAMP IMPROVEMENT. 23 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' [5:52] **Robin Wonsley:** COMPENSATION OF JOSEPH LEVACK. 24 IS A WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF GRANT SNYDER. 25 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF GRETCHEN BLOSS. 26 IS A LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF THOMAS CLARKE. 27 LEGAL SETTLEMENT WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF AMY KREKELBERG. 28 IS WORKERS' COMPENSATION CLAIM OF SEAN McGINNTY. 29 IS LEGAL SETTLEMENT OCTAVIA MARSHALL V. [6:28] **Robin Wonsley:** CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. I MOVE ITEMS FOR APPROVAL EXPEPT FOR 23, 24, 25, 27, AND 28. **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT MINUS ITEMS NUMBER 23, 24, 25, 27, AND 28. [6:49] **Elliott Payne:** IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE ON ALL BUT 11. NAY ON 11. [7:06] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [7:21] **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** NINE AYES ON THE REPORT EXCEPT FOR 11 WHICH HAS EIGHT AYES AND ONE NAY. **Elliott Payne:** THOSE ITEMS CARRY. NEXT WE'LL TAKE UP 23, 24, 25, 27, AND 28. AND RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS JOINED US. ANY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [7:52] **Elliott Payne:** OH, COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** I WANT TO FLAG SINCE THIS IS A -- [ AWAY FROM MIC ] THAT MY OFFICE IS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH BOTH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GET ANOTHER UPDATE ON THESE MATTERS. AND THE ADMINISTRATION ENTERPRISE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND WE'LL INFORM OUR COLLEAGUES OF WHEN THAT PRESENTATION WILL TAKE PLACE. [8:15] **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO ONE LEFT IN QUEUE. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** NO. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. [8:31] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** NO. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** NO. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE SIX AYES AND THREE NAYS. **Elliott Payne:** THOSE ITEMS CARRY. AND WE HAVE COMPLETED THAT FULL REPORT. [8:48] **Elliott Payne:** NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE REPORT FROM OUR BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE GIVEN BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER -- AH, DO WE HAVE -- WE DON'T HAVE THE CHAIR OR THE VICE CHAIR. WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THE BIZ REPORT? [9:03] **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. FOR THE BIZ COMMITTEE. WE HAVE -- UMM, MANY ITEMS. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. ITEM ONE WE HAVE HARD TIMES CAFE 1821 [9:52] **Aurin Chowdhury:** STREET LICENSE. WE HAVE RIVER CITY TAVERN LIQUOR LICENSE, LIMITED SUNDAY SALES. THREE TOBACCO PRODUCTS LOCATION RESTRICTIONS AND PROHIBITED SALES O ORDINANCE. FOUR SMELLING YARDS FAMILY HOUSING TAX EXEMPTION. FIVE APPROVING 180 DEGREES FOR HOST APPROVAL OF ISSUANCE OF TAX EXEMPT REVENUE BONDS. SIX THREE LIQUOR LICENSES. SEVEN APPROVING 21 LIQUOR LICENSE RENEWALS. EIGHT ACCEPTING WORK FORCE INNOVATION AND OPPORTUNITY GRANTS FOR EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING SERVICES. NINE AUTHORIZE A REDEPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE MET COUNCIL FOR EXISTING GRANT AGREEMENTS. 10 AUTHORIZING [10:37] **Aurin Chowdhury:** EXCLUSIVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AT 1200 LAKE STREET E TO LUL BROS PROPERTIES. 11 AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MET COUNCIL FOR THE WATER EFFICIENCY GRANT PILOT PROGRAM. 12 PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTION ACKNOWLEDGING SUPPORT FOR HIG HI BRIDGE PIER PRODUCT. 13 IS A GREAT STREETS LOAN TO THE RISE UP CENTER AT 2828 HENNEPIN AVENUE. [11:06] **Aurin Chowdhury:** 14 AMENDING THE DEVELOPMENT TERMS AND UPPER HARBOR AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND LASTLY, APPROVING AND ORDINANCE REGULATING SAUNA ORDINANCES. I'LL MOVE ALL ITEMS FOR APPROVAL. [11:23] **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANTED TO -- I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT 15. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. AND I'M PLEASED TO SEE THIS ORDINANCE COME FORWARD. AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, IN THE BIZ COMMITTEE, THIS STARTED WITH A PROBLEM, ACTUALLY, IN MY WARD. ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. WE HAD A SAUNA BUSINESS OPERATING OUT OF COMPLIANCE DUE TO A FEW DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE WAS THEY WERE RUNNING WOOD-FIRED SAUNAS. [11:58] **Linea Palmisano:** MULTIPLE OF THEM. 16 HOURS PER DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. SO THE AIR QUALITY INDEX AROUND THOSE SAUNAS WAS MEASURED BY ONE OF OUR AIR MONITORS, NOT RIGHT THERE, FURTHER AWAY, TO BE 150. WHICH IS THE RED ZONE. IT'S CONSIDERED UNHEALTHY FOR EVERYONE AND PEOPLE WILL BE EXPERIENCING HEALTH EFFECTS. AS A COMPARISON, ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, THE NEXT HIGHEST READING IN THE CITY WAS ABOUT HALF THAT LEVEL. UMM, THAT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE. INSTEAD OF BEING NEAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIKE THIS ONE. IT'S GREAT TO NOW HAVE SOME GUIDANCE ABOUT HOW THESE SAUNA BUSINESSES CAN OPERATE IN A WAY THAT IS SAFE AND IS BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYONE. [12:40] **Linea Palmisano:** BOTH THOSE WHO USE THE SAUNAS AND THOSE WHO LIVE NEAR THEM. THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THIS WORK. **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. AND TO MOVE TWO AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE BEFORE YOU. [13:01] **Elliott Payne:** OKAY. THE AMENDMENTS FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. OKAY. WE'LL SET ASIDE ITEM THREE AND TAKE UP THE REST OF THE ITEMS. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA? COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** I CAN WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THREE. **Elliott Payne:** OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. CLERK, CALL THE ROLL ON THE BUSINESS AGENDA MINUS THREE. [13:24] **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** NINE AYES. [13:39] **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND WE WILL TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. I WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY I AUTHORED THIS TOBACCO LOCATION ORDINANCE AND BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. TOGETHER WITH COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. IT CAME UP AFTER LAST YEAR WHEN WE PASSED A MINIMUM PRICE FOR CIGARETTES THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY PARENTS IN MY WARD WERE CONCERNED WE WEREN'T ADDRESSING THE ISSUE OF TODAY. YOUTH ARE GETTING ADDICTED TO VAPES. IF WE WANT TO PREVENT MORE TOBACCO ABUSE AND ADDICTION IN OUR CITY, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS VAPES. [14:21] **Katie Cashman:** SECONDLY, MY WARD HAS A COUPLE OF LARGE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS, LUHRING PARK BEING ONE OF THEM. THE TOBACCO DISTANCE REGULATIONS WERE EXEMPTED. LUHRING PARK HAS BEEN INUNDATED WITH TOBACCO STORES. AND WE DON'T HAVE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM TOBACCO STORES. SO WE DECIDED TO ADD THAT IN, AS WELL AS TO ADD A DISTANCE FROM SCHOOLS TO BE IN LINE WITH CANNABIS AND LIQUOR STORES. SO REALLY HAPPY WE'RE MOVING THIS FORWARD TODAY. [14:53] **Katie Cashman:** I WANT TO THANK ALL THE ADVOCATES WHO HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT. BOTH AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HERE TODAY. AND THEN JUST TO MOVE THE TWO AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU, THE FIRST ONE ON SECTION 281.120C. IT'S IT REALLY TECHNICAL. IT'S VERY BASIC, I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF A MORE ACTIVE LANGUAGE RATHER THAN PASSIVE LANGUAGE. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, THE MINIMUM PRICE SHALL NOT APPLY TO INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF ELECTRONIC DELIVERY DEVICES THAT DO NOT CONTAIN NICOTINE. I THINK IT RELATES TO BUSINESSES THAT SELL MODULAR PARTS FOR DIFFERENT DEVICES. [15:36] **Katie Cashman:** AND SO THE MINIMUM PRICE WOULD NOT APPLY TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS OF THOSE DEVICES. IT WOULD JUST APPLY TO THE PIECES THAT ARE ACTUALLY INCLUDING NICOTINE. I WILL MOVE BOTH OF THOSE AMENDMENTS AND ASK IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS. [15:53] **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN HAS MOVED TWO SEPARATE AMENDMENTS. I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE TAKE BOTH THOSE AMENDMENTS UP AT THE SAME TIME. IS THERE A SECOND? **Aisha Chughtai:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** I WANT TO BE ADDED AS A COAUTHOR. [16:09] **Elliott Payne:** GREAT. SEEING NO one else left in queue, I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE CALL THE ROLL ON ADOPTING THE LANGUAGE AS AMENDED. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? THE WHOLE PACKAGE. YEP. CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** NINE AYES. [16:46] **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE FULL REPORT IS ADOPTED. OH, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS? SORRY ABOUT THAT. LET'S -- COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [17:03] **Aurin Chowdhury:** COUNCIL MEMBER VETAW CAN GO AHEAD. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** I WANT TO MAKE SURE. **Aurin Chowdhury:** OKAY. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** I MADE MOST OF MY COMMENTS IN THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ADVOCATES WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TODAY IN OUR CHAMBERS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF NICOTINE ADDICTION AND SPECIFICALLY YOUTH NICOTINE ADDICTION THROUGH THE USAGE OF VAPES. WE KNOW THAT THE BEST WAY TO STOP TOBACCO USE AND NICOTINE ADDICTION AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE IS STOP THE START. MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS, AS A [17:56] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** GEN-Z, MILLENNIAL CUSPER, WE WERE SET TO BE THE GENERATION TO COMMIT SMOKING. WHEN JUUL BECAME AVAILABLE WITH THE PRETTY FLAVORS HYPERAFFORDABILITY THAT CHANGED WITHIN, LIKE, A FLIP OF A DIME. IT WENT FROM VERY FEW YOUNG PEOPLE SMOKING AND HAVING NICOTINE ADDICTION TO COLLEGE CAMPUSES, ON GAME DAYS, RUNNING OUT OF JUUL PODS WITHIN HOURS. AND LEADING INTO A LIFELONG ISSUE OF TRYING TO QUIT SMOKING AND VAPING AND GOING INTO A VICIOUS CYCLE. AND WE KNOW THAT THE HEALTH EFFECTS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, ARE [18:45] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** TREMENDOUS. NOT ONLY ON OUR RESPIRATORY SYSTEMS, THERE IS SO MUCH PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT VAPING CAN LEAD TO AN EXACERBATE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FROM ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, AND SUICIDAL IDEATION. WE ALSO KNOW HOW PREDATORY THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY IS. AND THE WAY THAT IT IS SET UP, IS BASICALLY HIGH POTENTCY OF NICOTINE IN VAPES AND ALMOST LIKE AN ARM'S RACE TO SEE WHO CAN HAVE THE MOST HYPOTENDENCY PRODUCT WHICH IS EASIER TO BE ADDICTED TO. AND THE FLASHY, COLORFUL, I KNOW OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS TAKEN UP MANY CASES AROUND COMPANIES THAT [19:32] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** HAVE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED YOUTH. USING, UMM, VERY, LIKE, COLORFUL CANDY FLAVORS. OR EVEN AS HARMFUL AS MAKING A VAPE LOOK LIKE A HIGHLIGHTER. SO YOU CAN KEEP IT IN YOUR, UMM, IN YOUR BACKPACK AND USE IT IN CLASS AND YOUR TEACHER AND EDUCATOR AND PARENT WOULD NEVER KNOW. AND SO I THINK WE'RE TAKING A STEP HERE ON THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE IT LESS ACCESSIBLE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. WE KNOW ONE OF THE BEST TOOLS WE HAVE IS PRICING. THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS TODAY. AND I'M HOPEFUL TO WORK WITH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OUR CPED DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF [20:18] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** MONITOR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE AS WE MAKE THIS CHANGE. AND WE ALSO KNOW, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THERE'S VERY LIMITED ACTION TO ADDRESS THE CRISIS GOING ON. THAT'S WHY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, MINNEAPOLIS IS BEING A LEADER TODAY. [20:45] **Kristyn Anderson:** TO BE CLEAR, IN 281.40, THE LANGUAGE WAS BEFORE YOU, JUST WANTING TO MAKE CLEAR THAT FOR ALL CARTRIDGES, TANKS, OR REFILL CONTAINERS IT APPLIES, WHETHER FILLED OR UNFILLED. A POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT. OTHER COMPONENT PARTS THAT WOULD NOT APPLY BUT FOR THOSE, AGAIN, THE CARTRIDGES, OR TANKS OR REFILL CONTAINERS WOULD BE FILLED OR UNFILLED. [21:19] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THANK YOU, CHAIR. I WANT TO THANK CASHMAN AND CHOWDHURY FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. THEY'VE BEEN THE CHAMPIONS ON THIS, THIS WORK ALONG WITH THE ADVOCATES AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STAFF. YOU KNOW, I DID THIS WORK FOR 20 YEARS BEFORE BEING ON THE COUNCIL. SO IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE IT CONTINUE. [21:39] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THERE'S A LOT OF ADVOCATES HERE TODAY THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE WORK WAS ALWAYS AROUND CIGARETTES. AND THEN THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY, AS THEY DO, JUST KIND OF SWOOPED IN AND MADE E CIGARETTES AND VAPE DEVICES HUGE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. AND SO THIS IS PART OF THE WORK THAT HELPS TO KEEP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE FROM SMOKING. SO I'M PROUD OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR DOING THIS WORK. AND, ALSO, FOR ADVOCATES FOR KEEPING AT IT. AND KEEPING THINGS LOUD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONTINUED WORK ON THIS. AND PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. [22:23] **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU FOR THAT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COMMITTEE REPORT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR VOTES TO BE REFLECTED? **Jamal Osman:** YES, PLEASE. **Elliott Payne:** VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS? [22:40] **Jamal Osman:** YES. ALL ITEMS. **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU. MR. CLERK? SOUNDS GOOD. THE NEXT REPORT IS FROM OUR CLIMATE AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S REPORT CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD 10 ITEMS. ONE IS FULTON RESIDENTIAL RESURFACING PROJECT. TWO IS UPPER HARBOR COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. THREE A LARGE BLOCK EVENT FOR THE SOMALI-AMERICAN DAY FEST. FOUR IS CONCURRING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS VARIANCE REQUEST FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE CEDAR LAKE ROAD BRIDGE OVER THE BNSF RAILROAD. FIVE IS ACCEPTING A BRIDGE INVESTMENT PROGRAM FOR THE NICOLLET BRIDGE [23:26] **Katie Cashman:** OVER MINNEHAHA CREEK PROJECT. SIX IS AUTHORIZING AGREEMENT WITH THE PARK BOARD FOR THE NICOLLET AVENUE BRIDGE OVER THE MINNEHAHA CREEK. SEVEN IS YEAR-END BUDGET PROCEDURES FOR SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICTS. [23:43] **Katie Cashman:** EIGHT IS MOU FOR CITY BIOCHAR PRODUCTION. NINE IS PIPELINE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH CPKC FOR PERMISSION TO INSTALL A STORM SEWER PIPELINE BENEATH THE RAILROAD TRACKS. 10 IS AUTHORIZING A PIPELINE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH CPKC FOR A STORM SEWER PIPELINE CROSSING ON 22nd AVENUE NORTH AND 1st STREET NORTH IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL 10 ITEMS. [24:11] **Elliott Payne:** MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. THE BRIDGE INVESTMENT FOR THE NICOLLET AVENUE BRIDGE. I WANT TO THE THANK THE FEDERAL PARTNERS FOR ALMOST $35 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. I'M SURE IF COUNCILMEMBER KOSKI WAS HERE, SHE'D BE DOING THE SAME. [24:33] **Linea Palmisano:** INSTEAD OF ME. AND ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE FULTON RESIDENTIAL PROJECT APPROVAL AND ASSESSMENT. I WANT TO THANK THE FULTON RESIDENTS WHO CAME TO TESTIFY AND SUBMITTED COMMENTS. I CERTAINLY HEAR THEIR CONCERNS. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY NECESSARY WORK TO STABILIZE THE INTEGRITY OF STREETS IN THE AREA. IT'S A BENEFIT TO ALL THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES IN IT. AND RESURFACING IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT THAN LETTING STREETS DEGRADE FURTHER TO THE POINT OF NEEDING A FULL RECONSTRUCTION. [25:07] **Linea Palmisano:** THE BIG REASON IT'S GOING ON SO LONG, WELL BEFORE MY TIME, IT'S ONE OF THE CITY'S FLOOD PLANES. AND THE SOLUTIONS WE NEED TO DO TO ADDRESS THE FLOOD AREA UNDERNEATH AND WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD UMM THOSE SOLUTIONS HAVE CHANGED OVER TIME. AND WORKING WHETHER WITH THE WATER SHED DISTRICT OR THE PARK BOARD ON WHAT THE SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE. OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAS WORKED REALLY HARD AND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST ACCOMMODATE OUR STORMWATER ORDINANCE AND NOT NEED AN EXEMPTION FROM IT. AND SO UMM THAT'S PERHAPS THE TIMING OF THIS. BUT THE ACTUAL ROAD ASSESSMENTS, WHICH ARE UNIFORM ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU HAVE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE BY YOUR HOME OR NOT, IT IS ALL [25:53] **Linea Palmisano:** THE SAME PRICE. IT'S THE SAME COST TO RESIDENTS. I JUST DID POINT OUT, I WAS AT A MEETING LAST NIGHT ABOUT THIS, AGAIN. AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM IS WORKING SO HARD ON THIS PROJECT. I VALUE THEIR SUPPORT! [26:12] **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. [26:27] **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 10 AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. AND THE NEXT REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED BY THAT COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. [26:46] **Jason Chavez:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE IS BRINGING FORWARD TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS SOUND PERMIT FOR THE EAT STREET CROSSING EVENTS ON JULY 12 AND AUGUST 1. LASTLY, STAFF DIRECTION RELATED TO MDHR SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM ONE AND DELETION OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. [27:11] **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ HAS MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE REPORT, INCLUDING THE DELETION OF ITEM NUMBER TWO. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [27:27] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** 10 AYES. [27:43] **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE REPORT IS ADOPTED. FINALLY, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE, PRESENTED BY THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIR, COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD THREE ITEMS. ONE IS ACCEPTING A FOURTH JUDICIAL DRUG COURT GRANT AWARD FOR LIAISON RESEARCH AND MONITORING SUPPORT. TWO IS AMENDING THE GRANT PERIOD FOR THE PROMISING PRACTICES PROGRAM FOR FAMILY HOME VISITING SERVICES. AND THREE IS APPROVING APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION ON POLICE OVERSIGHT. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ITEMS. [28:20] **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ MOVED APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE'S REPORT. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** THANK YOU. I WANT TO COMMENT ON COMMUNITY COMMISSION AND POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. I WANT TO THANK JUNE PALMER, BUSY PALMER, FOR HER COMMITMENT TO SERVE WARD SIX RESIDENTS. [28:52] **Jamal Osman:** IT'S REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HER ON THE COMMITTEE. SOMEONE WHO HAD MADE, UMM, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WORK ON POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND SO ON. I THINK SHE'S A PERFECT FIT FOR WARD 6! AND I WANT APPROVAL OF THIS DONE, I'M HOPING WE CAN WORK TOGETHER IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND I THINK YOU'LL BE A PERFECT FIT FOR WARD SIX SEAT! I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER PATIENCE ON THE PROCESS OF ONBOARDING. AND HER COMMITMENTS TO SERVE WARD 6 RESIDENTS. [29:27] **Jamal Osman:** THANK YOU SO MUCH! **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANTED TO ALSO THANK LEAH FOR STEPPING UP TO TAKE ON THE WARD 12 SEAT. THE SEAT HAS BEEN VACANT, UMM, SINCE LAST YEAR. [29:49] **Aurin Chowdhury:** AND IT WAS REALLY A STRONG EFFORT TO TRY TO GET COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO APPLY FOR THIS POSITION. SHE'S GOING TO BRING A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE. I'M GRATEFUL THAT LEAH INDRELIE IS TAKING ON PUBLIC SERVICE AND FULFILLING THIS IMPORTANT ROLE. [30:08] **Elliott Payne:** AND I ADDED MYSELF TO QUEUE TO THANK MY APPOINTMENT, MIKE McELHINNEY -- I CAN'T SAY HIS LAST NAME. FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO SERVE. HE'S, ALSO, A MILITARY VETERAN AND I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HIS DEEPER COMMITMENT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THIS DIFFERENT WAY. [30:31] **Elliott Payne:** I WANTED TO THANK JOSH, MY ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT TO THE CCPO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE JOURNEY OF REFORMING OUR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT. HE HAD CONTRIBUTED TREMENDOUSLY, INCLUDING HELPING ME WITH MY AMENDMENTS AND BRINGING UP A PERSPECTIVE THAT I THOUGHT WAS EXTREMELY THOUGHTFUL TO THIS PROCESS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THE CCPO BACK INTO A PLACE WHERE IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE. AND SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE, CLERK, CALL THE ROLL. [31:07] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. [31:22] **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** 10 AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. THE REPORT IS ADOPTED AND THAT COMPLETES THE REPORTS OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS NOTICE OF ORDINANCE INTRODUCTIONS. WE HAVE ONE NOTICE TODAY. COUNCILMEMBER CASHMAN GIVES NOTICE OF INTENT TO INTRODUCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING CODE TO UPDATE REGULATIONS RELATED TO ON PREMISES AND OFF PREMISES SIGNS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE NOTICE? SEEING NONE. [31:50] **Elliott Payne:** THAT NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN AND NO FURTHER ACTION REQUIRED. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. FOUR ITEMS TODAY. FIRST, COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN MOVES TO AMEND THE PRIOR INTRODUCTION OF THE SUBJECT MATTER OF ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING CODE GIVEN AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 27 BY ADDING CHAPTER 530 AND 555. RETURNING TO AUTHOR CHAPTERS 525 AND 565. AND REFER THE MATTER TO THE BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE. SECOND, PURSUANT TO NOTICE, COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO MOVES TO INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION CODE FOR FIRST [32:35] **Elliott Payne:** READING AND REFERRAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. ALIGNING CITY AND STATE LAW WITH REGARD TO SICK AND SAFE TIME AND UPDATING ITS ENFORCEMENT PROVISION. THREE AND FOUR ARE FROM COUNCILMEMBER CHAVEZ, CHUGHTAI, AND CHOWDHURY WHO MOVE TO INTRODUCE THE SUBJECT MATTER OF TWO ORDINANCES AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATION AND CIVIL RIGHTS CODES. ADDING REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND PROTECTIONS FOR DISCRIMINATION BASED ON PERCEIVED CITIZENSHIP OR IMMIGRATION STATUS. THESE ORDINANCES ARE SLATED FOR REFERRAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY COMMITTEE. [33:11] **Linea Palmisano:** MOVED. **Aurin Chowdhury:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF QUICK WORDS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION ON SAFE AND SICK TIME. YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, OUR ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED IN 2016. [33:31] **Linea Palmisano:** [ OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] SORRY. MICROPHONE. I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL AUTHORS. NOW I'M THE LAST AUTHOR STANDING HERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT IS MY INTENT IN BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND CONTINUING TO IMPROVE IT. ORIGINALLY THIS WAS JUST SIMPLY ABOUT ALIGNING OUR SICK AND SAFE TIME ORDINANCE WITH STATE LAW. OUR SICK AND SAFE TIME WORK PROMOTED EFFORTS AT THE STATE, WHICH CAME TO PASS AND, FRANKLY, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK, TO STATE LAW THAT OVER THE FEW YEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN OPERATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADOPT. SO I'M WORKING WITH STAFF TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE WORKPLACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. [34:15] **Linea Palmisano:** I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH ALL OF YOU ON THAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING THIS FORWARD WITH SUPPORT OF LABOR AND WORKERS AND I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT. I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO VERY BRIEFLY START SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS. BUT I DO PLAN TO REACH OUT. LANGUAGE HAS BEEN BEING WORKED ON. IT'S NOT FINAL YET. AS SOON AS I HAVE DRAFT LANGUAGE, I'LL BE SHARING IT AND IT'LL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE. YOU KNOW, ONE IDEA "LET'S MAKE IT MORE SIMILAR TO STATE LAW" BECAUSE THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN STATE LAW THAT MAKES THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO TAKE SAFE AND SICK TIME BECAUSE OF MORE PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE. MORE FAMILY-TYPE MEMBERS. AND ONE OF MY IDEAS WAS, WELL, IF WE WANT TO GO WITH THE STATE LAWS, IF THAT'S BETTER [35:01] **Linea Palmisano:** THAN THE CITY'S NOW, WHY WOULDN'T WE RESCIND IT AND LET THE STATE TAKE CARE OF THIS. THE REASON WHY WE SHOULD DO THIS OURSELF, WE HAVE A STRONG ENFORCEMENT ARM WE'VE BUILT. THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THIS LAW AT OUR CITY. [35:17] **Linea Palmisano:** WE WANT TO REDUCE CONFUSION IN THE WORKPLACE. NOT HAVING EMPLOYERS NEEDING TO POST STATE LAW REGULATIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN CITY. BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EMPLOYERS, TO PARTICULARLY EDUCATE EMPLOYERS, AND EMPLOYEES, ON WHAT THIS MEANS. AND WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD HANDLE ON ENFORCEMENT. [35:38] **Linea Palmisano:** WE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN OUR STATE. I'M EAGER TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT WITH ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME. THANK YOU. **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE LEFT IN QUEUE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. [35:54] **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. [36:09] **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** 10 AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THESE MATTERS ARE REFERRED TO THE APPROPRIATE COMMITTEES. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS UNFINISHED BUSINESS. WE HAVE TWO UNFINISHED BUSINESS ITEMS TODAY. AMENDMENT TO THE 2025 LICENSE FEE SCHEDULE RELATED TO THE LICENSE FEE ESTABLISHMENTS. [36:31] **Elliott Payne:** THIS ITEM CAME FROM OUR BUSINESS, HOUSING, AND ZONING COMMITTEE AT OUR LAST MEETING. BUT POSTPONED TO ALIGN WITH THE ACCOMPANYING SAUNA LICENSING ORDINANCE. THAT ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED EARLIER IN THE AGENDA. I'LL SEE IF COUNCILMEMBER OSMAN, THE CHAIR OF THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE AND PRIMARY AUTHOR OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT. [36:49] **Jamal Osman:** YES. I'M HAPPY TO MOVE APPROVAL. **Elliott Payne:** IS THERE A SECOND? **Aisha Chughtai:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** COUNCILMEMBER PALMISANO. [37:05] **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** 10 AYES. **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. AND THE MOTION IS ADOPTED. NEXT WE HAVE CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL ACTION 2024-A0845 STAFF DIRECTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL LAST NOVEMBER RELATED TO MUNICIPAL REVENUE. THIS ITEM WAS ON OUR LAST AGENDA, BUT POSTPONED TO TODAY'S MEETING TO GIVE COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, THE AUTHOR OF THE ORIGINAL DIRECTION, TIME TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISCUSS IT. THE [37:50] **Elliott Payne:** ORIGINAL, MY AMENDMENT, AIMED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE, BUT CONSULTATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY, SHE WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THE SPECIFICITY OF THE PREVIOUS LANGUAGE. SO WE REMOVED THE STRIKE THROUGHS BUT STILL KEEPING THE EXPANSION OF THE SCOPE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES. AND THE OTHER PIECE WORKING WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO FIRM UP AN ACTUAL DATE. SO WE HAVE NO LATER THAN AUGUST 18th AS OUR DATE ON THIS. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? YES. MR. CLERK. [38:26] **Casey Carl:** JUST TO A, MAYBE, A LITTLE NOTE, I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF, BUT FOR THE BODY. THIS ALSO INCLUDES OUR POLICY RESEARCH TEAM AND THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTING WORK AND RESEARCH TO SUPPORT THE BOARD OF ESTIMATION AND TAXATION. ONE OF THE REASONS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD IS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE THE NEW RESOURCE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, THE BOARD OF ESTIMATION AND TAXATION WANTED TO PARTNER WITH COUNCIL TO EXPLORE SOME OF THESE ITEMS ABOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE TO LOCAL CITIES. SINCE IT'S THE FIRST TIME WORKING WITH THE SEPARATE ELECTED BODY, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT AND TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT MAKING SURE THE BODY TOOK OFFICIAL ACTION SO WE WERE UP FRONT AND TRANSPARENT THAT THE WORK IS NOT JUST INFORMING THE WORK OF THIS BODY. [39:05] **Casey Carl:** THIS ELECTED BODY, BUT OUR SISTER BODY. WHICH IS A SEPARATE ELECTED BODY, WHICH HAS SPECIFIC CHARTER PRESCRIBED DUTIES RELATED TO TAX AUTHORITY AND DEBT FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD ABOUT THIS BEING OUR FIRST ATTEMPT TO WORK WITH SISTER ELECTED BODY FOR OUR POLICY AND RESEARCH TEAM.. [39:27] **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. I'LL ADD THE PRESIDENT OF B.E.T. HAD TWO PRIORITIES THIS TERM. ONE IS EXPANDING REVENUE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS, AND HE GOT MYSELF AND THE MAYOR BOTH TO BE IN SHARED COMMITMENT WE'D ABSOLUTELY WANT TO EXPLORE THAT. [39:49] **Elliott Payne:** AND VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. AND GETTING THE BOARD OF ESTIMATION AND TAXATION STAFFED WITH FULL-TIME. SO THIS ACTION TODAY IS AIMING TO DELIVER ON BOTH OF THOSE PRIORITIES OF THE B.E.T. AND MAKING SURE WE CAN IDENTIFY THE ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF REVENUE AND HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF WORKING ON THAT. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [40:12] **Michael Rainville:** THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEMS 5 AND 6 ON THIS FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. **Elliott Payne:** UMM, THESE AREN'T SUB ITEMS. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE OF THE MOTION. MR. CLERK? [40:35] **Casey Carl:** MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THE BETTER APPROACH WOULD BE IF SUB ITEMS 5 AND 6 UPON THE MOTION IN FRONT OF YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTED, THEN THE BETTER APPROACH WOULD BE TO MOVE TO STRIKE THEM. RATHER THAN MOVE TO SEPARATE THEM. THEY'RE PRESENTED AS A PACKAGE. TO ADDRESS THE PACKAGE TO MOVE AMEND TO STRIKE ITEMS 5 AND 6 AND TAKE UP THE AMENDMENT AND MOVE FROM THAT POINT. [41:02] **Michael Rainville:** THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. I MOVE TO STRIKE ITEMS 5 AND 6. **Elliott Payne:** IS THERE A SECOND? **Linea Palmisano:** SECOND. **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. [41:18] **Robin Wonsley:** THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD TO STATE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE STRUCK. WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND I THINK, REALLY, CONCERNING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRIKING IT CONSIDERING WE JUST HAD THE BIG HORRIBLE BILL BE PASSED NATIONALLY THAT WAS A HANDOUT TO SOME OF THE MOST AFFLUENT HOUSEHOLDS IN OUR COUNTRY. AT THE EXPENSE OF DEFUNDING OTHER PUBLIC PROGRAMS, LIKE SNAP AND SO MANY OTHERS. I WANT TO READ THE LANGUAGE. FIVE [41:48] **Robin Wonsley:** IS REQUESTING POLICY CHANGES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL TO IMPLEMENT A TAX ON THE WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS IN MINNEAPOLIS. THROUGH CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. EXCLUDING PROPERTY TAXES. IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO CITIES UNDER STATE LAW. MIND YOU, THIS IS ALSO EFFORTS THAT WERE EXPLORED BY OUR CURRENT STATE LEGISLATOR WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT SIMILAR THINGS. WE LITERALLY LOOKED AT LEADERS AT OUR STATE LEGISLATOR AND SAID, "OH, THAT'S GREAT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT REVENUE STREAMS THAT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OUR MOST AFFLUENT HOUSEHOLDS, INDIVIDUALS, ET. CETERA." TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN CONTINUE [42:35] **Robin Wonsley:** SUSTAINING AND FUNDING OUR MOST CRITICAL PUBLIC PROGRAMS. NUMBER SIX IS POLICY CHANGES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL TO IMPLEMENT A TAX ON THE WEALTHIEST BUSINESSES IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO BEING EXPLORED AND HAD BEEN EXPLORED AT THE STATE. THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND BRINGING REVENUE. I WANTED TO SHARE CONTEXT OR AT LEAST SHARE WHAT'S INCLUDED THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE ELIMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. [43:04] **Robin Wonsley:** AND ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO NOT WANT TO RECEIVE INFORMATION ON HOW WE CAN BRING IN REVENUE AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL PARTIES, STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR CITY ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION. [43:22] **Elliott Payne:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. OH. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE. I THINK THAT WAS FROM A CARRYOVER. VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. [43:39] **Aisha Chughtai:** OKAY. UMM, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. UMM, I WANTED TO GET IN QUEUE FOR THIS DISCUSSION TO -- TO SPEAK STRONGLY AGAINST, AH, THIS AMENDMENT TO STRIKE ITEMS FIVE AND SIX. WHICH IS, UMM, EXPLORING POLICIES THAT ALLOW US AS COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY OUTLINED, IMPLEMENTING A TAX ON THE WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS. UMM, AND THE WEALTHIEST BUSINESSES IN MINNEAPOLIS. UMM YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS, AH, I THINK I'M SURPRISED TO SEE THIS AMENDMENT COME FORWARD. I -- IT STRIKES ME WHEN WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND PROPERTY TAX LEVY BURDEN, IN PARTICULAR, ON WORKING-CLASS HOMEOWNERS OR FIRST-GENERATION HOMEOWNERS IN OUR CITY. HOMEOWNERS IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS IN OUR CITY. UMM [44:26] **Aisha Chughtai:** YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY TAX -- UMM, IT CAME TO EXIST AS A FORM OF A WEALTH TAX. BUT WE KNOW TODAY THAT'S NOT THE REALITY. UMM, PROPERTY TAXES DO INHERENTLY EXIST AS A FORM OF REGRESSIVE TAXATION WHERE THE BURDEN FELT BY SOMEONE MAKING $50,000 A YEAR IS FAR GREATER THAN THE BURDEN FELT BY SOMEONE MAKING $500,000. [44:53] **Aisha Chughtai:** A PROGRESSIVE TAX SYSTEM IN WHICH WE, UMM, IMPLEMENT A TAX ON THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT, AH, TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE. MEANING, UMM, THE SAME AMOUNT OF -- SO THAT THE COST THAT IS BEING ABSORBED BY TAXPAYERS IS -- IS GREATER ON THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT. UMM, I THINK THAT IS IN LINE WITH MINNEAPOLIS VALUES. [45:21] **Aisha Chughtai:** TAXING THE RICH, I DON'T THINK, IS A CONTROVERSIAL OPINION IN MINNEAPOLIS. IT'S ONE THAT'S GENERALLY SPEAKING, PRETTY WIDELY SUPPORTED IN OUR CITY. AND SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO THE SAME. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. **Elliott Payne:** COUNCILMEMBER CHOWDHURY. [45:37] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY AND PRESIDENT PAYNE FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I THINK THIS IS VERY FORWARD THINKING RESEARCH TO BE REQUESTING IN THIS MOMENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SPEAK STRONGLY AGAINST STRIKING ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND SIX. THAT LOOKS AT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE TAX ON THE WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CENTER IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BENEFIT THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE WEALTHIEST IN OUR COUNTRY THROUGH THE BIG DISASTROUS BILL THAT WAS PASSED THROUGH THE HOUSE AND SENATE. [46:20] **Aurin Chowdhury:** THROUGH THAT BILL, THE WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS, THE TOP 1%, WILL BE GETTING $120 BILLION NET TAX CUTS. AND ACCORDING TO ANALYSIS FROM THE U.S. TREASURY DEPARTMENT, NEARLY 60 PERCENT OF THE TAX CUTS, OR $.5 TRILLION ARE GOING TO GO TO THE TOP 10% OF TAXPAYERS WHO EARN MORE THAN $228,000 ANNUALLY. WE NEED WEALTH DISTRIBUTION IN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO PROVIDE FOR THAT. [46:57] **Aurin Chowdhury:** WE KNOW THAT POVERTY IS AN ISSUE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. AND IT'S TIME, AS A COUNCIL AND CITY, START SPEAKING WITH DEEP CLARITY. AND UNDERSTAND THAT SPEAKING ABOUT POVERTY AND ADDRESSING IT AND WEALTH DISTRIBUTION WHEN WE HAVE JUST CONCENTRATED IT MORE AND MORE OVER THE LAST DECADES IS NOT POLITICAL. IT'S A MORAL QUESTION. AND IT IS VERY MATERIAL. WE HAVE A TALE OF TWO CITIES IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS. PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING EVERY DAY TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES, AFFORD THEIR HEALTH CARE BILLS. AND WE KNOW IT'LL GET WORSE. AND IF WE DON'T FIND WAYS TO RELIEVE TAX BURDEN ON THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LOWER INCOMES AND ALREADY [47:43] **Aurin Chowdhury:** STRUGGLING, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY ONLY GO UP AS POVERTY INCREASES. AND SO SAFETY, HEALTH, AND HAVING RESOURCES ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALL CONNECTED. AND WE JUST DO NOT HAVE THE TOOLS BEFORE US IN ORDER TO DO IT. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, WHICH INCLUDES STARTING GETTING THIS RESEARCH. AND THEN WORKING WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATURE AND EARNING SUPPORT IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. AND I WOULD ADVISE MY COLLEAGUES TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND, TAKE A STEP BACK, AND REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS HERE. AND NOT JUST TAKE IT AS A FACE VALUE. AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS ARE AND BE FORWARD [48:30] **Aurin Chowdhury:** LOOKING IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED. BECAUSE LOCAL GOVERNMENT JUST SIMPLY HAS TO STEP UP. WE KNOW THAT FOR SURE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE ONGOING IMPACTS ON OUR ECONOMY AND ON OUR PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND INDIGENOUS FOLKS IN MINNEAPOLIS. LONG AFTER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DONE. [48:53] **Jason Chavez:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. TO THE CLERKS TO HELP WITH THE SITUATION. I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE CONFUSED. COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE IS BRINGING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT TO SOMETHING ELSE. AN UNFINISHED BUSINESS. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE IS AMENDING THAT AMENDMENT. WE'RE VOTING ON COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE'S AMENDMENT FIRST. [49:12] **Jason Chavez:** I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED THAT COUNCIL PRESIDENT PAYNE IS THE ONE STRIKING LANGUAGE AND I SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING MOTION. BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO TAX THE RICH. WE NEED TO TAX THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS IF WE ARE GOING TO HELP ADDRESS POVERTY IN OUR COMMUNITY. PERIOD. [49:32] **Katie Cashman:** THANK YOU, PRESIDENT PAYNE. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EITHER YOU OR COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY. IT'S ABOUT ITEMS FIVE AND SIX. WHAT YOU MEAN BY "WEALTHIEST INDIVIDUALS OR BUSINESSES" ANY INFORMATION FROM STATE LEGISLATURES OR THE B.E.T. [49:53] **Katie Cashman:** AS WHAT QUALIFIES AS WEALTHIEST? AND MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY SOMETHING. WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT. IF IT'S FOR THE 1%. IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT 99% OF US. AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS WHO OWN LARGE SWATHS OF LAND, PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LARGEST BUSINESSES IN OUR STATE. AND WE DO HAVE BILLIONAIRES IN MINNESOTA. SO I AM WONDERING FOR YOU HAVE ANY MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, AT THIS TIME. [50:24] **Robin Wonsley:** YEAH. I WANTED TO, FIRST, TAKE A STEP BACK. THERE'S NO IMPACT. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND RESEARCH. SO THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE. SO THAT IS WHY WE KEPT THE LANGUAGE VERY HIGH LEVEL. IN TERMS OF IT CAN INCLUDE BUSINESSES, IT CAN INCLUDE HOUSEHOLDS AND THAT'S WHY, ALSO, I ASKED FOR INFORMATION AROUND HOW THE STATE HAS RECEIVED OR RESPONDED TO THIS DYNAMIC OF "WHAT DOES WEALTH MEAN ON A POLICY LEVEL?" WE KEPT IT HIGH-LEVEL AS WE DO WITH ALL RESEARCH REQUESTS. SO WE CAN GET THE BROADEST RANGE OF INFORMATION. AND THEN THAT MIGHT INFORM NEXT STEPS THAT WE TAKE THAT MIGHT HAVE MORE CONCRETE IMPACT I THINK YOU'RE GETTING AT. I WANTED TO START FROM THE PLACE OF IT'S HIGH [51:09] **Robin Wonsley:** LEVEL. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO IMPACTS. IT'S PRETTY BROAD. **Elliott Payne:** I WOULD ADD, UMM YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE, ACTUALLY, ADDED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY BY TAKING THE SECOND SENTENCE OF BULLET POINT NUMBER FIVE AND MAKING THAT A SEPARATE BULLET POINT. MY ORIGINAL AMENDMENT WAS TO JUST BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL FORMS OF REVENUE. INCLUDING A WEALTH TAX. BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. THAT'S WHY WE HELD IT FOR A CYCLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE KEEPING -- AND, AGAIN, KEEPING THE LANGUAGE THAT HAD PASSED IN THE BODY AND ALREADY DUE FOR A REPORT BACK. [51:54] **Elliott Payne:** THIS ONE, ACTUALLY, ORIGINALLY. AND IT WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE INCLUDING THE BOARD OF ESTIMATE AND TAXATION AND BEING EXPLICIT ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE STAFFER IS WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT. AND WE WERE MAKING THE AMENDMENT, IT WAS ALSO INFORMED BY OUR POLICY AND RESEARCH STAFF THAT THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT THEY WANTED TO CONTRACT THIS OUT WITH. SO THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS LANGUAGE THAT DIDN'T RESTRICT THE SCOPE OF IT. THIS WAS EXPANDING THE SCOPE INCLUSIVE OF THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T STRIKE THROUGH THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. AS THE OUTSIDE FIRM IS LOOKING AT THIS, THEY'RE NOT LOSING SIGHT OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT HERE. [52:37] **Katie Cashman:** OKAY. I AM CURIOUS TO SEE, LIKE, WHAT THE LEVELS GET DEFINED AS. I THINK THAT PEOPLE REALLY DO MISUNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MILLION AND BILLION DOLLARS. THIS ISN'T A MAGNITUDE OF 10. IT'S EXORBITANT. WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED GREEDY OR HOARDING WEALTH. IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE LIVING PAYCHECK-TO-PAYCHECK. WHERE I LIVE IS THE MINIMUM ANNUAL IS $33,000. THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE, ACCEPTABLE, OR SUSTAINABLE. AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, PAY SO MANY SALES TAXES AND PROPERTY TAXES AND ALL THESE OTHER KINDS OF FEES IN OUR CITY. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF [53:23] **Katie Cashman:** DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKETS WHO COULD CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO BRING OUT. AGAIN, THIS IS RESEARCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT, I THINK IN THE CONTEXT OF THE DISASTROUS BILL THAT PASSED. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIES, STATE AND OTHERS TO STEP UP TO MEET OUR CONSTITUENTS' NEEDS. [53:42] **LaTrisha Vetaw:** THANK YOU, CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, TO CONSIDER REMOVING THE ACTION. I THINK HAVING THE RESEARCH DONE IS A GOOD IDEA. AND JUST WILL GET THIS INFORMATION PRESENTED TO US. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE, AND DECISIONS WILL BE MADE AFTER THAT. I THINK IT'S TOTALLY FINE FOR US TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY IS ASKING FOR. AND TO HAVE IT PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL. AND DECISIONS WILL BE MADE FURTHER. [54:15] **Michael Rainville:** I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMEMBER VETAW. I DO RESCIND MY MOTION. **Elliott Payne:** THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RAINVILLE HAS RESCINDED HIS AMENDMENT TO DELETE ITEMS FIVE AND SIX. WE ARE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION AMENDMENT THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD. COUNCILMEMBER WONSLEY? **Robin Wonsley:** NO. **Elliott Payne:** ALL RIGHT. I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. **Casey Carl:** PALMISANO. **Linea Palmisano:** AYE. [54:56] **Casey Carl:** CHOWDHURY. **Aurin Chowdhury:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CASHMAN. **Katie Cashman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** OSMAN. **Jamal Osman:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** RAINVILLE. **Michael Rainville:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** CHAVEZ. **Jason Chavez:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VETAW. **LaTrisha Vetaw:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** WONSLEY. **Robin Wonsley:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** VICE PRESIDENT CHUGHTAI. **Aisha Chughtai:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** PRESIDENT PAYNE. **Elliott Payne:** AYE. **Casey Carl:** THERE ARE 10 AYES. [55:17] **Elliott Payne:** THAT CARRIES. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS? SEEING NONE. WITH THAT, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR BUSINESS TODAY WITH NOTHING FURTHER TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.