June 17, 2024 Bloomington City Council Meeting
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER TONIGHT IS MONDAY JUNE 17TH, 2024. THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND FOR EVERYONE WATCHING ONLINE. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO. IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE STAND REMOVE YOUR CAPS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THEEPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN FOR BEING HERE. I JUST NOTICED WE DON'T HAVE A MINNESOTA FLAG SO WE'RE GOING TO BLANK FLAGPOLE OVER THERE. I JUST NOTICED THAT AS WE TURNED OVER SO WELCOME TO EVERYBODY AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WATCHING LINE COUNCIL WE'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA EVENING AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO SO WE'RE GOING TO GET RIGHT TO IT AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND AS I SAID, IT'S A HEFTY ONE ITEM TOO IN . OUR AGENDA IS OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS AND WE'VE GOT UNDER 2.1 WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE A NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AN UPDATE FROM OUR HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER DEBBIE CATTLE GLAD TO HAVE HER THIS EVENING. WELCOME, COMMISSIONER. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR ON ITEM 2.3 OUR EXTERNAL AUDITORS REPORT ON THE 2023 ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT THEN READ THE PROCLAMATION 2.4 REGARDING JUNETEENTH. THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A SERIES OF APPOINTMENTS AND THEN 2.5 WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT MEMBERS TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND 2.6 WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO OF A YOUNG ADULT MEMBER TO OUR PARKS ARTS RECREATION COMMISSION 2.7 AN APPOINTMENT OF A YOUNG ADULT MEMBER TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AND 2.8 IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR APPOINTMENTS TO OUR ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH, OUR CONSENT BUSINESS IS 19 ITEMS LONG COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER UNDER ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENT REGARDING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS UPDATE AND ITEM 4.2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE . THE FINAL ITEM OF OUR EVENING IS OUR ORGANIZATION OR BUSINESS AND ITEM 5.1 UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AN UPDATE ON OUR LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING PROGRAM ITEM 5.2 A DISCUSSION ON OUR CANNABIS ZONING AND BUSINESS REGISTRATION STANDARDS. THE FIRST CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING ON THAT THIS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL. SO THAT WILL BE INTERESTING AND WE'LL WRAP UP AS WE ALWAYS DO ITEM 5.3 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUES UPDATES AND WE WILL ADJOURN THEN SO AS I SAID COUNCIL WE'VE GOT A BUSY ONE TONIGHT. ANY ADDITIONS CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA IF NOT I WOULD MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED IN SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA THIS EVENING. FIRST ITEM IS ITEM 2.1 OUR INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AS I SAID WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THEM AND WE ARE GOING TO START WITH CITY CLERK CHRISTINA SCIPIONE INTRODUCING OUR NEW DEPUTY CITY BUT EVENING WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU THIS EVENING AND IT'S ESPECIALLY NICE TO BE INTRODUCING JAMIE COME UP HERE TO BE INTRODUCING JAMIE HANSON, OUR NEW DEPUTY CITY CLERK FOR LICENSING AND PASSPORTS. JAMIE STARTED AT THE END OF APRIL AND SHE'S BEEN A FABULOUS ADDITION TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. SHE COMES TO US WITH SIX AND A HALF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN MAPLE GROVE AS THEIR DEPUTY CITY CLERK. SHE'S A MINNESOTA CERTIFIED MUNICIPAL CLERK AND HAS HER BACHELORS DEGREE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION FROM NORTH DAKOTA STATE. JAMIE HAS EXTENSIVE ELECTIONS EXPERIENCE WHICH WE'RE SUPER PUMPED ABOUT. JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING SHE WAS ACTUALLY SHOWING ME NEW COLOR CODING FOR ALL OF OUR ELECTION ENVELOPES AND. IT MADE MY CITY CLERK HEART SING LIKE A VERY EXCITING SHE'S JAMIE AND OUR TEAM SHE'S LEADING OUR LICENSING OUR BUSINESS OUR BUSINESS LICENSING OUR ELECTIONS, OUR PASSPORTS CEMETERY TEAM SO SHE'S SUPPORTING ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE PROVIDING THAT FRONT LEVEL CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO SHE'S A VITAL PART OF OUR TEAM AND SHE'S BEEN A GREAT ADDITION AND WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE HER IN A LETTER INTRODUCE HERSELF A LITTLE BIT GREEN AND JAMIE, WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I AM REALLY EXCITED BE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THE STAFF HERE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY WELCOME, WELCOMING AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND HELPFUL IN MY FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS HERE I'M REALLY EXCITED TO LEARN ALL THE NEW ASPECTS OF THE JOB AND THEN STILL GETTING TO DO THE THINGS I LOVE WHICH THE MAIN ONE BEING ELECTIONS HAS ALWAYS ALWAYS BEEN MY THING. I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I'M COMING FULL CIRCLE. I'M GROWING UP MY GRANDPA WAS THE MAYOR AND SO I THINK I WAS SOMEHOW DESTINED TO WORK IN THEM AND THEN SMALL GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW AND THEN FUNNY ENOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I GOT ENGAGED HERE IN BLOOMINGTON SO IT ALL JUST FEELS LIKE THE UNIVERSE HAS ALIGNED FOR THIS POSITION FOR ME SO THANK YOU. WELL WELCOME AND THANK YOU AND I HONESTLY DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A CEMETERY TEAM. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO IT TAKES A TEAM IT TAKES A TEAM I ASSUME IT PROBABLY DOES SO THANK YOU AND WELCOME JAMIE. WELCOME. NEXT UP I WILL CALL ON OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ELIZABETH HOLTZMAN DOING A COUPLE OF INTRODUCTIONS FOR US . THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING JACKIE ON BEHALF OF THE COED TEAM SO I'LL JUST START BY SHARING ABOUT HER BIO. JACKIE STARTED ON MAY 28TH IN THE NEWLY CREATED POSITION OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR. JACKIE IS RETURNING TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AFTER PREVIOUSLY FOR 19 YEARS IN THE ROLES OF HUMAN SERVICES COORDINATOR AND RECREATION SUPERVISOR. SHE'S A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, A DEGREE IN RECREATION PARK AND LEISURE STUDIES WITH AN EMPHASIS IN THERAPEUTIC RECREATION. SHE ENJOYS HELPING PEOPLE EXPLORE THEIR INTERESTS AND GET CONNECTED IMPACTFUL, MEANINGFUL WAYS TO THE COMMUNITY AS VOLUNTEERS PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AND LEADERS. SHE HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH VOLUNTEERS AND VARIETY OF SETTINGS MOST RECENTLY AT BRIGHTER DAYS FAMILY GRIEF CENTER IN EDEN PRAIRIE AND SHE WAS RECENTLY AT VEEP'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION AS WELL. I ALSO LEARNED THAT JACKIE IS A 26 YEAR RESIDENT OF BLOOMINGTON LIVING NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE WITH HER PARTNER TODD. AND SHE HAS TWO ADULT CHILDREN, EVY AND HENRY WHO LIVE IN EAU CLAIRE. AND IN HER FINAL INTERVIEW FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, THE REPLACEMENT SONG HERE COMES IN REGULAR WAS PLAYING AND IT WAS AN OMEN THAT SHE WAS MEANT TO COME BACK. SO JACKIE GOOD EVENING JACKIE. WELCOME. HI. THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE. IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK AND WE ARE READY IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO GET DOWN TO THE BUSINESS OF GETTING VOLUNTEERS ,THE WHOLE SYSTEM CONSISTENT AND WELCOMING AND MAKING SURE WE ARE OFFERING PLENTIFUL AND EQUITABLE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL OF BLOOMINGTON. WELL GOOD. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT A LITTLE BIT AT THE VP 50TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION AND. TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR POSITION. I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT THIS AS A COUNCIL THE IMPORTANCE OF ALLOWING PEOPLE TO TO USE THEIR TALENTS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY LIKE THEY'RE DYING TO REALLY WANTING TO DO SO AND TO HAVE SOMEONE COORDINATING THAT AND PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE BEST POSITIONS TO SUCCEED IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO WE'RE VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. THANK YOU. GLAD TO BE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST IF YOU DON'T KNOW CITY MANAGER OF A BREWERY IS ONLINE TONIGHT AND SO ON HIS BEHALF I HAVE THE DISTINCT PLEASURE OF ALSO INTRODUCING OUR NEW COMMUNITY DIRECTOR KEN BERGMAN. THERE'S COME ON UP AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT UNIVERSITIES COLLIDING. KIM AND I ACTUALLY WORKED AT THE CITY TOGETHER IN EARLIER YEARS SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE OUR PATHS COLLIDE AGAIN AND I THINK IT WAS MEANT TO BE SO. KIM BERGERON STARTED AS A DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON JUNE 4TH. BEFORE JOINING US KIM SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF BROOKLYN PARK AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE BROOKLYN PARK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY. FOR TEN YEARS PRIOR TO THAT SHE WORKED IN VARIOUS HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ROLES IN THE CITIES OF BROOKLYN PARK, NEW HOPE AND COLUMBIA HEIGHTS. KIM HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA. SHE'S A CERTIFIED PLANNER BY THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS AND WAS CERTIFIED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING FINANCE BY THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. SHE RESIDE IN SAINT ANTHONY WITH HER HUSBAND SCOTT AND HER TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN WESTON AND LAKEN. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE IN COUNCIL. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET YOU ALL TONIGHT KNOW I'VE MET A FEW OF YOU ALREADY BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT AND I'VE HAD A GREAT TIME SO FAR GETTING TO KNOW THE WORK OF BLOOMINGTON THESE LAST TWO WEEKS AND I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MORE INVOLVED. GREAT. WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND NOW THAT YOU'RE ON BOARD, WE'RE GONNA PUT YOUR RIGHT TO WORK AND JUST HAVE YOU INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF. THANK YOU. I GET THE PRIVILEGE TONIGHT OF INTRODUCING TWO OF OUR NEWER EMPLOYEES AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. FIRST I'LL INTRODUCE LIZ BOUCHER AND COME ON UP HERE AS LIZ IS WALKING UP. SHE STARTED WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN EARLY MAY AS ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST BUT SHE IS NOT NEW TO THE DEPARTMENT. SHE WORKED PREVIOUSLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND 2021 AND 2022 AND THEN WENT TO WORK FOR THE DAWN GROUP AS A PROPERTY AND ASSISTANT PROPERTY MANAGER. PRIOR TO THAT LIZ WAS A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF SHAKOPEE AND A PLANNING AND ZONING SPECIALIST FOR WAS WASECA COUNTY AND ALSO A PLANNING INTERN FOR THE CITY OF DULUTH. LIZ HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA DULUTH IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING AND AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE FROM MINNESOTA MINNEAPOLIS MEDIA INSTITUTE OF AUDIO ENGINEERING PRODUCTION. SO PLEASE WELCOME LIZ GOOD EVENING TO LIZ WELCOME. HELLO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT . AND NEXT I'LL INTRODUCE NICOLE KASTEN. SHE'S A NEWEST SENIOR PLANS EXAMINER WITH THE CITY SHE STARTED AT THE END OF APRIL. NICOLE TRANSITIONED HERE FROM HER POSITION AS A PROJECT MANAGER OF DESIGN AND DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT FOR MR. CAR WASH HER EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE INCLUDES ROLES SUCH AS ARCHITECTURAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT AT CORE STATES AND PLANS EXAMINER FOR INSPEC AND FUSION ARCHITECTURE. NICOLE HOLDS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE FROM LOUISIANA TECH AND IS ALSO A LICENSED ARCHITECT HERE IN MINNESOTA. GOOD EVENING, NICOLE. WELCOME. THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND REVIEW BUILDING PERMITS AND GET THINGS APPROVED. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANKS FOR BEING HERE. IT'S SO KIM, JACKIE, JANIE, LIZ AND NICOLE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT ALL THOSE NAMES AND THANKS AND CONGRATULATIONS. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE SO GLAD TO YOU ON BOARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU OUT ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND CITY HALL AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WELCOME AND THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT . ADAM 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS AN UPDATE FROM OUR HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER DEBBIE GUTEL. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER GOODELL AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. GOOD EVENING. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I LOVE BEING HERE. I'LL LET YOU PULL THE SLIDES UP ON MY WHILE WHILE WE GET THE SLIDES PULLED UP. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU MAYOR AND I WANT TO THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AS YOU'RE A HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW IT'S TIME FOR US TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL UPDATE BUT A LOT OF IT'S ABOUT THE COOPERATION AND THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY HERE AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU THAT'S REALLY MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT TOGETHER. SO WE UP THERE WE GO AND YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YEAH RIGHT. AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC WATCHING I JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE FIFTH DISTRICT REALLY IS WHICH IS BLOOMINGTON RICHFIELD THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF EDEN PRAIRIE SOUTH OF CROSSTOWN OR 62 AND A SMALL PORTION NOW OF SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST MINNEAPOLIS. YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT ABOVE RICHFIELD THERE. THAT HAPPENED WHILE WE REDISTRICTING HAPPENED WHILE THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO AND GENERAL ACCOUNTING USUALLY FLS UNDER THE RADAR DESPITE, YOU KNOW, OUR FAR REACHING INVESTMENTS AND THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. MINNESOTA'S THE SECOND WE'RE MINNESOTA'S SECOND LARGEST GOVERNMENT AFTER, THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND THE LARGEST LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNIT STATEWIDE. SO AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO JUST AGAIN THERE ARE SEVEN COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THEY'VE FUNCTIONED MUCH LIKE YOU DO HERE RIGHT AT THE COUNCIL WE STEWARD ROUGHLY $2.7 BILLION ANNUALLY FOR OUR BUDGET AND WE FUND THINGS LIKE HUMAN SERVICES, PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS, OUR JAILS, OUR COURTS, OUR ELECTIONS, OUR LIBRARIES ALL, THE THINGS THAT MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES VERY LIVERPOOL DISPARITY REDUCTION IS A DRIVING PRINCIPLE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WE WANT TO ENABLE EVERYONE TO HAVE THE HAVE THE ABILITY NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE TO ACCESS ALL THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AND THROUGH OUR HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OUR HRA WE ALSO STEWARD CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENTS IN HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE DO THIS ON BEHALF OF 1.3 MILLION RESIDENTS HERE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY THAT'S ONE IN FIVE RESIDENTS OF MINNESOTA LIVE IN HENNEPIN COUNTY HERE AND CALL IT HOME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS THE SECD LARGEST GOVERNMENT IN THE STATE WE CAN OFFER CONSIDERABLE WEIGHT AND ADVOCATING FOR OUR MUNICIPAL AND LOCAL PARTNERS FOR THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE PASSED INTO STATE LAW. SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE REFERRED TO UP ON THE SCREEN AS YOU CAN SEE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN A DILIGENT AND GREAT PARTNER AT THE LEGISLATURE. WE SHARE OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDAS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WE GO AND ADVOCATE FOR EACH OTHER IN THAT PARTNERSHIP UP WITH OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES REALLY MAKES OUR VOICES HEARD. YOU ARE THE THIRD LARGEST CITY TO AND WE'RE THE LARGEST COUNTY. WE ARE A POWERHOUSE TOGETHER AND WE GET A LOT OF REALLY GREAT LEGISLATION THROUGH. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT SLIDE I WANT TO TALK A MINUTE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CREATION, HOUSING SUPPORT. THAT'S SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING TO INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY RESIDENTS, COUNTIES HOUSING FIRST MODEL IS WHAT IT'S CALLED IN 2023 WE INVESTED $191 MILLION IN THIS LINE OF BUSINESS THAT CONTRIBUTE OVER HALF OF THESE DOLLARS CAME RIGHT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND IN MAY AND JUNE OF THIS YEAR ALONE THE COUNTY AND THE HRA BOARD APPROVED FUNDING AWARDS TOTALING 20.3 MILLION WHICH WILL CREATE AND PRESERVE 1600 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN COMMUNITIES. WE ARE SEEING A LARGE SCALE PROCESS THAT'S REALLY WORKING OUT HERE AND I WANT TO JUST MENTION TO THAT BLOOMINGTON IS A LEADER HERE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL. WE KNOW THAT WITH THESE FIRST TIME DOLLARS IT MAKES ACCESSIBLE TO THESE DEVELOPERS FIRST MONEY IN REALLY OR SOMETIMES THEY CAN GET THE REST OF THEIR FINANCING TO GET GET A PROJECT OFF THE GROUND AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR THOSE PROJECTS. NEXT SLIDE WE ARE ALSO MAKING A HUGE IMPACT IN SUPPORTING OUR UNSHELTERED HOMELESS COMMUNITY AND OBTAINING HOUSING AND NUMBERS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. FINALLY, YEARS AND YEARS THIS WE ARE MAKING HEADWAY FAMILY SHELTERS AND OUTFLOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FINDING HOUSING HAS BEEN EXCEEDING THOSE WHO ARE COMING INTO THE SHELTER FOR FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME. SINCE JANUARY WE HAVE SHRUNK THE TOTAL A FAMILY SHELTER ROOMS BY MORE THAN 40% CLOSING OVER 200 UNITS. THIS IS DUE TO OUR ENHANCED FUNDING IN 2020 FOR ALSO OUR HOMELESS PREVENTION EFFORTS OF EVICTION COURT. OUR NIMBLE TRIAGE OF NEWLY HOMELESS FAMILIES WITH OUR PARTNERS AND SITES AND OUR OTHER NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS . SO NEXT SLIDE. SO HOW DO WE DO IT? EACH PROGRAM PARTICIPANT IS PAIRED WITH A CASE MANAGER WHO PROVIDES A HOLISTIC SUPPORT AND RESOURCES IN ORDER TO HELP THEM SUSTAINABLY SECURE HOUSING SAME THE SAME PERSON THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS HANDLING ALL ASPECTS OF ALL NEEDS. IT'S A ONE STOP SHOP. THIS HAS HAD ENORMOUS SUCCESS 94% OF THE INDIVIDUALS HOUSED THIS PROGRAM HAVE NOT RETURNED TO HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEM SO THAT'S STABLE OVER ONE YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD RECORD SO FAR ACROSS YOUR FINGERS IT'LL KEEP GOING WE'RE STILL MEASURING MAY IS WE REACHED A MAJOR MILESTONE OF A THOUSAND INDIVIDUAL CALLS HOUSED SO THE BIG ONE NEXT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WITH THE PANDEMIC IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR, WE'RE STILL TOWARD SPENDING DOWN THE COUNTY'S 247 MILLION AWARD FROM THE ARPA DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN MAY MORE THAN 173 MILLION HAS GONE OUT THE DOOR TO HELP PAY FOR PROGRAMS THAT HAVE HELPED OUR RESIDENTS EMERGE STRONGER AND MORE RESILIENT. THE REMAINDER IS ALREADY ALLOCATED AND WILL BE SPENT BY THE END THE YEAR SO WE WILL BE TURNING BACK NO DOLLARS. NEXT SLIDE I WANTED TO SPEND JUST A MINUTE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH. I KNOW THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO BLOOMINGTON HENNEPIN COUNTY IS WORKING ON MANY FRONTS TO HELP MITIGATE AND BUILD OUT A MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CONTINUUM OF CARE. ONE SUCH PROGRAM THE POLICE EMBEDDED SOCIAL WORKER PROGRAM BLOOMINGTON IS INTIMATELY INVOLVED WITH THIS PROGRAM FROM THE VERY BEGINNING IN THE PILOT STAGE. IT HAS BECOME AN ESSENTIAL NEW RESPONSE METHOD SERVING ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND HENNEPIN COUNTY WITH 45 SOCIAL WORKERS NOW IN 2023 ALONE, BLOOMINGTON POLICE MADE ONE ASK IS ME 917 REFERRALS TO THE EMBATTLED THAT SOCIAL WORKERS 268 REFERRALS TO A RANGE OF SOCIAL SERVICES THROUGH THIS YEAR QUARTER TO A BLOOMINGTON MADE 508 REFERRALS TO THE PROGRAM 69 REFERRALS TO A RANGE OF SOCIAL SERVICES INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH, DRUG TREATMENT, HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN 2023 WE LAUNCHED A $1.7 MILLION MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS COMMUNITY CAMPAIGN AIMED AT NORMALIZING MENTAL HEALTH CONVERSATIONS AND REDUCING THE STIGMA THROUGH EDUCATION. WE CALLED THIS MENTAL HEALTH. IT EARNED MORE THAN 202 MILLION TOTAL IMPRESSIONS ENSURING PEOPLE WERE REACHED MULTIPLE TIMES IN A VARIETY OF WAYS. THE C MENTAL HEALTH TEAM PARTICIPATED IN 36 COMMUNITY EVENTS ENGAGING A MORE THAN 8000 PEOPLE IN PERSON AND ACROSS THE COUNTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND I WANT TO FOCUS ON YOUTH NOW AND MENTAL HEALTH. ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS OF DISEASE CONTROL, THE CDC MORE THAN FOUR IN TEN STUDENTS FEEL PERSISTENTLY SAD OR HOPELESS. ONE IN THREE EXPERIENCED POOR MENTAL HEALTH AND OUR SCHOOL BOARDS MENTAL HEALTH PARTNERSHIP IS HELPING TO TURN THIS TIDE. AS BY THE MINNPOST IN JANUARY, RESEARCHERS BELIEVE SCHOOL BASED MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES HAVE RESULTED IN 260 FEWER SELF-REPORTED SUICIDE ATTEMPTS BY HENNEPIN COUNTY STUDENTS IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 12 FROM 2004 TO 2024. THIS IS TRUE PREVENTION. THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE. WE'RE PROVIDING SERVICES TO 6600 STUDENTS YEARLY AND THIS IS IN EVERY DISTRICT AND EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL COUNTYWIDE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S EXCITING TO TALK ABOUT AND AGAIN BLOOMINGTON'S RIGHT AT THE FOREFRONT HELPING US AND PARTNERING ELEVATE HENNEPIN A SOURCE RESOURCE HUB FOR LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS TO EXPERT ADVISORS AT NO COST. THAT'S FREE SERVICES TO ENTREPRENEURS ON A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS. JUST ONE PIECE OF THE BROADER STRATEGY THAT WE DO TO SUPPORT OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AT EVERY STAGE AND AGAIN BLOOMINGTON'S REALLY ALIGNED IN THIS PROGRAM . THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES HAVE USED ELEVATE HENNEPIN INCLUDING MORE THAN 2700 WHO HAVE ACCESSED OVER 31000 HOURS AT NO COST. ONE ON ONE ADVISING OR COHORT LEARNING OPPORTUNITY. SO IF YOU NEED ACCOUNTING SERVICES, IF YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY, IF YOU NEED REGULATORY SERVICES THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF SERVICES WE CAN BRING TO A BUSINESS FOR FREE. THIS TRANSLATES TO 133 BUSINESSES. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO 25 MILLION IN FINANCING THROUGH OUR ADVISOR NETWORK IMPACTING OVER 500 JOBS AND I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO GROW. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO TO HELP AUGMENT THIS GREAT WORK, I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT HENNEPIN IS ADDING $20 MILLION TO OUR ESTABLISHED CAPITAL FUND FROM 2021. THIS WILL MAKE MORE FINANCING AVAILABLE TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND 2025. THIS WILL LEVERAGE DIRECT LOANS TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO AREA BUSINESSES ACROSS HENNEPIN COUNTY. EXAMPLES OF HOW WE ARE CONTINUING TO NURTURE INNOVATION BORNE OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AND PARTNERING WITH OUR CITIES. AND THE NEXT SLIDE AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THERE I AM OUT AND OUT IN BLOOMINGTON ON THE BOULEVARD THERE TREES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DIRECT LINK TO OUR CLIMATE CHANGE GOALS AT HENNEPIN COUNTY. OUR GOAL IS TO PLANT 1 MILLION TREES BY 2030 IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR LOCAL PARTNERS. SO THANK YOU, BLOOMINGTON. YOU'RE REALLY GREAT PARTNER. WE ESTIMATE THAT 472,000 TREES WILL HAVE BEEN PLANTED THE END OF 2024. SOME OF THE REALLY GREAT THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM NOW ARE HENNEPIN RECEIVED $10 MILLION IN FEDERAL FORESTRY FUNDS TO REMOVE AND REPLACE TREES DISEASE TREES ON OWNERS OCCUPIED LOWER INCOME HOUSING IN FEDERALLY DESIGNATED COMMUNITY OPERATED NEEDY ZONES CENSUS TRACTS WHICH INCLUDES PORTIONS BLOOMINGTON AND RICHFIELD. SO WHEN THOSE DOLLARS COME AVAILABLE I'M SURE YOU'LL BE TAPPING INTO THEM. 500,000 IS MADE AVAILABLE ANNUALLY THROUGH OUR HEALTHY TREE CANOPY GRANT PROGRAM AT HENNEPIN COUNTY KENT COUNTY. THIS IS ANNUAL CITIES SCHOOLS ,AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS AND NONPROFITS ARE ALL ELIGIBLE THIS. WE HAVE WHOLESALE TREE PURCHASING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIES WITHIN HENNEPIN COUNTY. YES WE GROW OUR OWN TREES. THAT'S A PROGRAM FOR US TO TRAIN EMPLOYEES AND COUNTIES FIRST EVER URBAN TREE CARBON OFFSET SALES LAUNCHED IN 2023. NEXT SLIDE. AND LASTLY ANOTHER ONE OF OUR GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE WANTED TO INCLUDE A MAP AND THE LIST OF THE FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON. I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE LINE BY LINE. I KNOW YOU KNOW THEM ALREADY ANYWAY BUT I WANT TO EXTEND A BIG THANKS FOR THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY STAFF IN BLOOMINGTON AND HENNEPIN COUNTY TO MAKE THESE GREAT PROJECTS POSSIBLE. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS CAN BE EASILY FOUND ON HENNEPIN COUNTY'S WEBSITE GIS WEB MAPS FOR BOTH TRANSPORTATION ACTIVITIES AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE UP ON YOUR WEBSITE AS WELL SO THEY'RE TO FIND FOR YOUR RESIDENTS. AND LASTLY WITH THAT, MAYOR BOSSIE, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU VERY MUCH AND I WANT TO TURN THIS BACK TO YOU AND I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. WELL, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODELL, THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU SHOW AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK OF ENTIRE HENNEPIN COUNTY BOARD. I KNOW IT'S A I MEAN IT'S OFTEN AS YOU SAID, IT'S KIND OF A HIDDEN LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT BUT THE WAY THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT GETS DONE AT HENNEPIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT CENTER FOR AS YOU SAID MORE THAN A MILLION RESIDENTS IN THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN IT IS IMPRESSIVE. SO THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON BEHALF OF BLOOMINGTON AND THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS FOR COMMISSIONER GOODELL? COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THANK YOU. THANKS. COMMISSIONER GOODELL GREAT TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. FIRST ON THE HOUSING INITIATIVES THAT YOU HAD YOU HAD MENTIONED I THINK I HEARD IT RIGHT THAT MORE PEOPLE MOVED INTO NEW HOUSING THAN WERE PROVIDED SHELTER ROOMS FOR THE FIRST TIME. DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. CAN CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOW THE HOUSING CASEWORKER PROGRAM IS SUPPORTING THAT YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF ONE ON ONE CARE. DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU HIRED A LOT OF CASEWORKERS OR DOES THAT MEAN THAT THOSE CASEWORKERS ARE WORKING WITH MORE THAN ONE FOLK AT A TIME, ETC. THEY HAVE A CASELOAD BUT WE'VE LOWERED THEIR CASELOAD SO THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH WE WORK WITH FEWER AND YES WE HIRED MORE CASEWORKERS TO DO THIS WORK. WE FIGURE THAT WE'LL BE HAVING OPPORTUNITIES IN SOME OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMING TO MOVE THOSE CASEWORKERS TO OTHER WORK AS WE WHITTLE DOWN ON THESE NUMBERS AND LET'S HOPE THAT THEY KEEP CONTINUING TO GO DOWN. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. DO DO HAVE AN OUTCOME GOAL AT MEANING TO SHUT DOWN ALL OF YOUR SHELTER ROOMS. IS THAT ONE OF THE OUTCOMES THAT YOU HAVE? ABSOLUTELY OKAY. AND IS AND SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS PROGRAM IF IT'S WORKING THE WAY THAT YOU ENVISION IT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NEWLY HOMELESS WILL WITHIN 30 DAYS FIND SOMETHING NEW TO LIVE IN . WELL, I THINK MORE REALISTICALLY BETWEEN 30 TO 90 DA BUT YES. OKAY, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL AT THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN OPENING UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR US. WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT PRODUCTS OUT AND A LOT OF LIKE PARTNERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US THAT ARE ABLE TO HELP THESE FOLKS FIND HOUSING. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SO MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU FIND THEM HOUSING HOW HOW HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO GENERALLY SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENT THEY USE THE RESIDENCE THEY USED TO HAVE SO FOR EXAMPLE IF IF I LEAVE A BLOOMINGTON BLOOMINGTON FAMILY THAT'S NEWLY HOMELESS DO THEY DO PRIORITIZE TRYING TO FIND THEM SOMETHING ELSE IN BLOOMINGTON OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HENNEPIN COUNTY AS A WHOLE? WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY THEIR PREFERENCE. OKAY. SO IF THEY WANT TO TRY TO STAY THERE, WE'LL LOOK THERE FIRST. BUT ALSO TO A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME HERE THAT ARE IN OTHER CITIES AND THEN SOME OF ARE RESIDENTS FROM YOUR OWN AREA AND THEY DO WANT TO STAY BACK IN THIS COMMUNITY. HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE SHELTER THAT'S HERE THAT'S THAT WILL CLOSE TO WERE RESIDENTS OF BLOOMINGTON. OKAY GREAT. ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE ON THE ELEVATE HENNEPIN IS THE IS THE CAPITAL THAT'S IN THERE ARE THE LOANS THAT YOU PROVIDE TO FOLKS SIMILAR TO MARKET RATE LOANS? ARE YOU PROVIDING LOWER INTEREST OR MAYBE NO INTEREST OR OTHER TYPES OF FUNCTIONS? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT ARE WHAT'S THE INCOME OR PRIORITY QUALIFICATION FOR GETTING A LOAN THROUGH THAT PROGRAM? AND NOW I PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT IN-DEPTH OF INFORMATION BUT I'M SURE MY OFFICE CAN GET IT UP. GRAHAM OR YOU TAKE A NOTE ON THAT AND WE'LL GET THAT BACK TO YOU BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A NEWER AREA THAT WE'RE DOING. WE ALSO WORK WITH A BANK THAT'S WORKING WITH SMALLER LOANS TOO SO WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT. I'M ALSO WORKING OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY WITH A NONPROFIT THAT WANTS TO SET UP A FUND JUST TO FUND SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT NICHE TECH AND DON'T HAVE OTHER LARGE CAPITAL. SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND WE DON'T I DON'T THINK WE'RE DONE WE'VE JUST STARTED THIS PART OF THE CONTINUUM. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. ALSO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN MERRILL KEEP IT KEEP IT QUICK AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO THE STATEMENTS THAT THE MAYOR HAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN TERMS OF YOUR WORK AND LEADERSHIP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AROUND PIECES HERE. AND I JUST ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE JUST BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH IS IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE ITEMS AROUND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS IN TERMS THE SOULFULNESS WITH THAT AND WITH SMALL BUSINESSES AND REALLY THE MEASURES THAT KIND OF COME FORWARD. AND SO WHAT MY QUESTION IS FOR YOU IS AS WE LOOK FORWARD IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR FOCUSES AND THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO KIND OF BRING FORWARD AS WE KIND OF LOOK AT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS AND THINGS WE CAN PARTNER ON AS WE LOOK AT PREVENTION IS A REALLY BIG KEY. WE'RE ALSO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO LIKE ISN'T PAYING THEIR WATER BILLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S A FLAG THAT THEY NOT MAY NOT THEY MAY BE BEHIND ON THEIR TAXES, THEY MAY BE BEHIND ON OTHER THINGS AND IF WE CAN GET TO THEM WE HAVE EMERGENCY AND WE HAVE CAP THREE WHICH I KNOW YOU KNOW OF THAT ORGANIZATION I SIT ON THAT BOARD WE COULD STAND THOSE PEOPLE UP. OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS TO TRY GET THEM BEFORE THEY GET TO EVICTION COURT. RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT THEM THERE ALTHOUGH WE MEET THEM THERE AND WE'VE HIRED EXTRA ATTORNEYS TO BE THERE MOST OF THE TIME 80% OF THOSE PEOPLE STILL SEE HOUSED AND THOSE DON'T THERE'S A SOCIAL WORKER TO CATCH THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE SO THAT THEY'RE IN SHELTER AWAY. SO WE ARE BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FURTHER UP THAT CURB. WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IF YOU CATCH THEM AT COURT AND THEN YOU THOSE JUST YOU DON'T CATCH A COURT THEY JUST PICK UP AND LEAVE. WE TO GET IN BEFORE TT. AND SO WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH YOUR SCHOOLS. WE'RE IN THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW AND A LOT OF THE WORKERS IN YOUR SCHOOLS KNOW WHO THOSE FOLKS ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR HOUSING AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE KIDS WHO ARE ABSENT A LOT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND SO WE LOOK INTO THE FAMILIES AND WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON AND ONE OF THEM THE BIGGEST ONE USUALLY IS STABLE UNSTABLE HOUSING. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT BUT WE'LL PARTNER WITH YOU ON THAT FOR SURE AND YOU ALREADY DO. YOUR SCHOOLS WERE GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GOODELL, I'LL BE BACK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN BLOOMINGTON. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE YOU THE OTHER NIGHT TO THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY AND SO APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR ATTENTION TO THE WORK THAT GOES ON HERE AND YOUR TO THE PEOPLE. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANKS. GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU AS WELL. COUNCIL NEXT TENANT AGENDA ITEM 2.3 THIS IS OUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR'S REPORT ON THE 2023 ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT AND AMY SEVEN FROM OUR FINANCE OFFICE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE US IN STRANGER THINGS HERE AS WELL. GOOD EVENING EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AS ITS SAID, I AM AMY SELIG, THE DEPUTY FINANCE OFFICER AND FIRST OFF I JUST WANT TO EXTEND A HUGE THANK YOU TO THE ACCOUNTING TEAM WHO WORKED EXTENSIVELY TO CREATE WORK PAPERS, ANSWER THE AUDITOR'S QUESTIONS AND PRODUCE THE ANNUAL COMPREHEND OF FINANCIAL REPORTS. BUT TONIGHT I AM HERE TO INTRODUCE ANDY HERRING, A PARTNER AT RED PATH AND COMPANY WHO WILL PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THAT HARD WORK OF OUR 2023 EXTERNAL AUDIT. THANKS THANKS. GOOD EVENING MR. HERRING. WELCOME BACK AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AND GOOD TO SEE YOU. I SEE YOU MAY COUNCIL MEMBERS AGAIN MY NAME'S ANDY HEARING FROM REDPATH AND COMPANY AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE 2023 FINANCIAL AUDIT SO THE THE THAT WE'VE PRODUCED AS PART OF THE AUDIT WE ACTUALLY ISSUE FIVE REPORTS AND OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS A REPORT INTERNAL CONTROL A REPORT ON LEGAL COMPLIANCE MINNESOTA LEGAL COMPLIANCE A FEDERAL COMPLIANCE REPORT AND THEN A GOVERNANCE LETTER TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE RESULTS HERE. WE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION. I'M A FINANCIAL THE INTERNAL CONTROL REPORT HAD NO FINDINGS AS DID THE LEGAL COMPLIANCE REPORT. THE FEDERAL COMPLIANCE REPORT HAD ONE FINDING WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A FEW MINUTES AND THEN JUST STANDARD COMMUNICATIONS IN THE GOVERNANCE LETTER LOOKING BACK AT 2022 FOR THE 52ND CONSECUTIVE YEAR THE CITY ONCE AGAIN RECEIVED IT'S AN EXCELLENT IN FINANCIAL REPORTING A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION IN THAT THE CITY PREPARED COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPARENT AND CONSISTENT ACCOUNTING STATEMENTS OR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. THIS DOCUMENT HERE SO THE OPINION ON THE STATEMENTS ARE MEAN THE MAIN POINT OF AN AUDIT WHAT DID WE DO WE DETERMINED THAT THE AMOUNTS AND DISCLOSURES IN THIS DOCUMENT WERE FAIRLY PRESENTED IN ALL MATERIAL RESPECTS SO WHAT THAT MEANS WE DO NOT AUDIT EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION OUR GOAL IS NOT TO VERIFY THAT THE THAT THE AMOUNTS ARE FAIRLY STATED DOWN TO THE PENNY YOU KNOW AN AUDITOR'S ROLE IS TO MAKE SURE THE AMOUNTS ARE MATERIALLY CORRECT SO THAT THE THE USER OF THE FINANCIAL CAN MAKE SOUND CORRECT FINANCIAL DECISIONS MAKE BASED ON THE NUMBERS IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. SO HOW DO WE DO IT? WE PLAN THE AUDIT TO VERIFY OCCURRENCE MAKING SURE THAT THE THINGS REPORTED IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ACTUALLY OCCURRED PERTAIN TO THE CITY COMPLETENESS ENSURING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT IS INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT AND THEN ACCURACY CUT OFF IN CLASSIFICATION OF THE AMOUNTS AND THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WE USE VARIOUS AUDITING TECHNIQUES, ANALYTICAL PROCEDURES WE TRACE TO SOURCE DOCUMENTATION SUCH AS INVOICES WE PERFORM DUAL INQUIRIES MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING THE SAME FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE. SO THERE'S A VARIETY AUDIT TECHNIQUES WE USE ONCE AGAIN WE ISSUED AN UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THAT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL THE OPINION YOU CAN RECEIVE. SO GOOD NEWS THERE THEN JUST TAKING A STEP BACK THERE'S A AUDIT RISKS THAT WE IDENTIFY DURING THE PLANNING STAGE OF THE AUDIT I THOUGHT I'D TAKE A MINUTE TO DESCRIBE THOSE RISKS TO YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPORTANT. THE FIRST RISK MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE OF OF CONTROLS A RISK THAT'S PREVALENT IN ANY AUDIT THAT'S DONE AND THAT JUST MEANS THERE'S THIS GOING TO BE THE RISK THAT SOMEBODY IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY MAY ASK OR DIRECT ANOTHER EMPLOYEE TO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE CITY'S POLICIES PROCEDURES. THE SECOND RISK IF THIS I THINK IS THE BIGGIE THE INAPPROPRIATE DISBURSEMENTS WHETHER ON PURPOSE OR BY MISTAKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS A MISAPPROPRIATION OF AND A DISBURSEMENT THAT YOU DON'T WANT OR A MISUSE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS YOUR USE OF GRANT DOLLARS SO PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT FOR MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS DURING AUDIT AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE FRAUD SCHEMES THERE THAT ARE ATTEMPTING TO ATTACK CITY FUNDS YOU KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE VENDORS ARE FAIRLY WELL KNOWN THEY'RE NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT THE COMMON VENDORS OF THE CITY THERE'S EMAIL SCHEMES YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY PRETENDING TO BE A VENDOR UP SOMEBODY IN FINANCE HEY I'VE GOT A NEW BANK ACCOUNT I'M VERY WIRE THE MONEY TO THIS ACCOUNT INSTEAD OF THAT ACCOUNT OR I'VE MOVED. CAN YOU SEND THE CHECK TO NEW ADDRESS VERSUS THE OLD ADDRESS COULD SOMEBODY COULD RECEIVE AN EMAIL REPRESENTING THE MAYOR BUT IT'S NOT THE MAYOR. HEY COULD YOU CUT A CHECK FOR THIS ORGANIZATION OR CAN YOU GIVE ME GIFT CARDS FOR THIS EVENT? JUST ALL KINDS OF SCHEMES OUT THERE THAT WE DISCUSS AS PART OF THE AUDIT THAT THE FINANCE STAFF AND EVERYBODY REALLY HAS TO PAY ATTENTION TO BE ON THE ALERT FOR IT BECAUSE IT IT HAPPENS AND IT'S HAPPENING ALL OF THE TIME. THE THIRD ITEM IS REALLY A TECHNICAL ITEM TO MATCHING GRANT REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES IS SOMETHING WE LOOK OUT FOR DURING THE AUDIT . LUCKILY I DID NOT ENCOUNTER OF THESE EVENTS OCCURRING DURING THE AUDIT THE NEXT OR REPORT ON INTERNAL CONTROLS REALLY TIES INTO THAT LAST SLIDE INTERNAL CONTROLS ARE THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE CITY TO REALLY PREVENT THOSE ITEMS FROM OCCURRING AND MUCH MORE EXAMPLES OF INTERNAL CONTROLS APPROVAL OVER DISBURSEMENT OVER BANK RECONCILIATIONS. THERE SHOULD BE AN IDEAL OF DUTIES MAKING SURE THAT NO ONE PERSON HAS TOO MUCH POWER OR AUTHORITY ESSENTIALLY A SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES . AND THEN A REVIEW OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION ON THE BACK END TO DETECT ANY POTENTIAL ERRORS. SO WE LOOK AT THE CITY'S INTERNAL CONTROLS WHEN WE PERFORM AUDIT AND DID NOT NOTE ANY DEFICIENCIES IN INTERNAL CONTROL. NEXT THE STATE AUDITOR ISSUES A GUIDE OF SEVEN AREAS THAT WE MUST TEST FOR AS PART OF THE AUDIT REALLY WE'RE TESTING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH MINNESOTA'S STATUTES SO YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS AREAS LISTED THERE WE'RE TESTING TO MAKE SURE THE CITY IS INVESTED ITS FUNDS PROPERLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATUTE 118 A UM THAT THERE'S COLLATERAL OVER THOSE DEPOSITS THAT ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ARE PROPERLY DISCLOSED. AND THERE'S THERE'S REQUIREMENTS WHENEVER THERE'S A BIDDING PROCESS THE CITY ENCOUNTERS REQUIREMENTS OVER TAX INCREMENT AND SPENDING AND A MISCELLANEOUS SECTION JUST ALL KINDS OF COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY MUST FOLLOW SO. WE SELECT A SAMPLE OF TRANSACTIONS TO SEE IF COMPLIANCE IS FOLLOWED AND THE RESULT NO COMPLIANCE FINDINGS . THEN THERE'S ALSO REPORT ON FEDERAL COMPLIANCE. SO THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS A SINGLE AUDIT. IT'S AN AUDIT OF FEDERAL EXPENDITURES. IN 2023 THE CITY EXPENDED ABOUT 16 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OF FEDERAL FUNDS THAT IT WAS THAT IT RECEIVED. SO THERE'S A FORMULA TO DETERMINE US THE THE TYPES OF MAJOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE REFERRED TO AS OR THE THE VARIOUS FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WE MUST TEST. AND THAT FORMULA KICKED OUT BUT WE TESTED FOUR PROGRAMS THIS PAST YEAR AS PART OF OUR SINGLE AUDIT THE HIGHWAY PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION ARPA FUNDS, THE SAFER GRANT AND THE WORK PROGRAM. SO WE GAINED AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTERNAL CONTROLS AND COMPLIANCE OVER EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND WE TEST THE VARIOUS EXPENDITURES OF THOSE PROGRAMS ON A SAMPLE BASIS AND CONSIDER WHETHER ANY CONTROL DEFICIENCIES EXISTED SO AS PART OF THE SINGLE AUDIT THE CITY TO PREPARE IT'S CALLED A SCHEDULE OF EXPENDITURES OF FEDERAL IT'S ESSENTIALLY A LISTING OF ALL OF THE FEDERAL DOLLARS SPENT AND HERE'S WHERE THE FINDING COMES INTO PLAY THAT THIS LISTING THAT THE CITY PREPARED IT WASN'T QUITE ACCURATE GOING INTO THE AUDIT THERE WAS ONE PROGRAM THAT THE EXPENDITURES WERE OVERSTATED AND ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WAS THE EXPENDITURES WERE UNDERSTATED. BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE IT WAS JUST THE REPORTING ON THIS SCHEDULE. IT WASN'T ACTUAL DOLLARS THAT WERE UNDERSPENT. THEIR OVERSPEND IS RATHER IT WAS JUST THE SO AS PART OF THE AUDIT PROCESS WE WORKED WITH FINANCE STAFF TO CORRECT THOSE ERRORS AND THEN THIS SCHEDULE GETS SUBMITTED, THE CORRECTED VERSION GETS SUBMITTED TO THE FEDERAL AUDIT CLEARINGHOUSE. SO THAT WAS THE ONE FINDING THAT THIS SCHEDULE WASN'T PERFECT AS WE STARTED THE AUDIT. LASTLY, THE LAST REPORT IS A LETTER THAT WE ISSUED TO THE COUNCIL. THIS IS A REQUIRED LETTER AS PART OF THE AUDIT HITS ON THERE WAS ONE NEW ACCOUNTING STANDARD THAT TOOK EFFECT IN 2023 BUT IT ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE CITY . THERE ARE A FEW ESTIMATES IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS BUT NOTHING SIGNIFY ACCOUNT. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THERE WERE NO DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED OR DISAGREEMENTS WITH STAFF DURING OUR AUDIT THE FINANCE STAFF WERE WELL-PREPARED AND PLEASANT TO WORK WITH SO THAT ALWAYS MAKES THE AUDIT MORE ENJOYABLE. AND LASTLY THERE WERE NO MATERIAL MISSTATEMENTS THAT WE IDENTIFIED DURING THE AUDIT AND THEN I JUST HAVE A FEW SLIDES FEW FINANCIAL SLIDES RELATING TO 2023 FOR THE GENERAL FUND. THE FINAL BUDGET CALLED FOR ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE FUND BALANCE. THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE INCREASED 6.2 MILLION DUE BOTH TO HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED REVENUE AND LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES A BACK AT THE LAST FIVE YEARS YOU CAN SEE THE FUND BALANCE HAS GROWN BUT SO HAS THE CITY'S NEEDS THROUGH ITS BUDGET. CITY IS NOT IMMUNE TO INFLATION LIKE ANYBODY ELSE SO IT'S ITS BUDGET HAS GROWN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AS YOU CAN SEE THERE THE OVERALL STATE RIGHT AROUND THAT 50% LEVEL FOR FUND BALANCE AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE ENSUING YEAR'S BUDGET. AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAXES ARE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME FOR THE CITY IN THAT FIRST INSTALLMENT OF TAXES IS NOT RECEIVED A UNTIL ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR SO SUFFICIENT ARE NEEDED AT THE END OF THE YEAR AT DECEMBER 31ST TO FUND THE OPERATIONS FOR THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY THE FUND BALANCE IS NEEDED AT YEAR END AND ALSO THERE'S A FEW OTHER SO YOU CAN SEE THE FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF 2023 WAS ABOUT 51 MILLION AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS CHART IS THE 51 MILLION AND THERE'S ALSO A FEW OTHER DEEDS RESTRICTIONS AND COMMITMENTS OF FUND BALANCE RELATING TO PUBLIC SAFETY AID RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA THAT'S RESTRICTED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES AND THEN ALSO COMMITMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE VIA MEANS OF BUDGET BUDGET CARRYOVERS FROM 2023 ENCUMBRANCES WHICH BRINGS US DOWN TO AN UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE OF 37.9 MILLION. I'M JUST HAVE A FEW TECHNICALLY BULLETS BUT A FEW ADDITIONAL POINTS OF WHY A HEALTHY UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IS NECESSARY AS I STATED TO IT TO FUND A PORTION OF THE ENSUING YEAR'S BUDGET TO FUND BALANCE IS ALWAYS NEEDED FOR RESERVES OR EMERGENCIES THAT MAY COME UP. HOPEFULLY WE DON'T ENCOUNTER ANOTHER COVID BUT THAT PLACES A FINANCIAL STRAIN ON GOVERNMENTS. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN A A NATURAL DISASTER MIGHT HIT AND WHEN NECESSARY RELY ON FEMA FUNDS TO BE RIGHTHERE AT YOUR DOORSTEP AND EVEN SUCH THINGS AS YOU KNOW THIS PAST WAS AN EASY ONE BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT TWO WINTERS AGO THAT THE COST OF ALL THAT SNOWFALL REMOVAL AND THAT PLACES A FINANCIAL STRAIN SO THEN ALSO A FUND BALANCE RESERVE IS NECESSARY FOR ANY OTHER POTENTIAL NEEDS TO DECREASE VOLATILITY IN FUTURE BUDGETS. SO WITH THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO A REQUEST NOT BY ME BUT USUALLY BY YOU IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. HERRING. VERY THOROUGH AS ALWAYS AND APPRECIATE IT AND THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION, COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HEARING THIS EVENING? NO QUESTIONS. VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD I THINK A GOOD SOLID AUDIT ONCE AGAIN I THINK SHOWING THAT OUR FINANCE STAFF I THINK IS SECOND TO NONE. THEY'RE FANTASTIC PROVEN BY 52 YEARS IN A ROW OF THE GIVEAWAY AWARD THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED WHICH IS VERY IMPRESSIVE I THINK I AGREE COUNSEL ANYTHING IF NOT COUNSEL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE 2023 AUDIT AND RELATED REPORTS MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ACCEPT THE 2023 AUDIT AND RELATED REPORTS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES IT SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH MR. HERRING I APPRECIATE IT. WELCOME. WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN THIS TIME NEXT YEAR. SOUNDS GOOD NOW SO NEXT IN OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 2.4. IT'S A PROCLAMATION I'M GOING TO HEAD DOWN TO PODIUM . A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING IS REGARDING JUNETEENTH AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS INVITE MEMBERS OF THE THE FOLKS RECEIVING THE PROCLAMATION TO JOIN ME UP HERE. SO COME ON UP AND IN PARTICULAR THE FOLKS FROM THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BLACK EMPLOYEE NETWORK WHO WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN PLANNING OUR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. COME ON AROUND. WE CAN TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU WHEN I'M DONE. HOW ABOUT THAT? VERY GOOD. THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR JUNETEENTH JUNE 19, 2024 WHEREAS THE YEAR 1619 REPRESENTS A LANDMARK IN THE LONG HISTORY OF SLAVERY IN EUROPEAN COLONIES AND THE BEGINNING STAGES OF WHAT WOULD BECOME THE INSTITUTION OF CHATTEL SLAVERY IN AMERICA ? AND. WHEREAS, THE FORCED MIGRATION AND SUBSEQUENT ENSLAVEMENT OF AFRICANS AMERICA WAS INTEGRAL TO ESTABLISHING THE UNITED STATES AS A WORLD ECONOMIC AND. WHEREAS SLAVERY EMERGED AS A NATIONAL INSTITUTION AND DIRECTLY INFLUENCE THE ECONOMIES AND THE WEALTH OF BOTH NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STATES. AND. WHEREAS, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 1863 FREEING THE SLAVES THE SOUTH SOUTHERN SLAVE OWNERS IGNORE THAT ORDER AND ON JUNE 19TH, 1865 UNION SOLDIERS ARRIVED IN GALVESTON, TEXAS AND ENFORCED THE PRESIDENT'S ORDER FREEING THE SLAVES TWO AND A HALF YEARS AFTER IT WAS FIRST AGREED AND THROUGH OTHER SYSTEMS OF OPPRESSION SUCH AS SHARECROPPING, JIM CROW REDLINING AND MASS INCARCERATION THE DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF BLACK BODIES CONTINUED PAST SLAVERY AND PERSISTS TO THIS DAY. AND. WHEREAS, DESPITE THESE THOSE GRIEVOUS HARDSHIPS, AFRICAN-AMERICANS DURING PERIODS OF ENSLAVEMENT AND STILL TODAY MAKE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO EVERY SEGMENT OF AMERICAN SOCIETY. AND. WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS RECOGNIZED AS THE END OF CHATTEL SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES AND A SPECIAL MEANING TO AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND THIS IS CALLED JUNETEENTH COMBINING WORDS JUNE AND 19TH AND HAS BEEN CELEBRATED BY THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOR MORE THAN 150 YEARS. AND. WHEREAS THE FULL PROMISE OF THAT DAY IS YET UNREALIZED AND THEREFORE JUNETEENTH ALSO SERVES AS A REMINDER OF THE WORK YET TO COME THAT WILL BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO ENSURE A MORE EQUITABLE WORLD FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RECOGNIZES AND AFFIRMS THE VALUE OF BLACK LIVES AND THE IMMEASURABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO THIS COUNTRY AND TO THIS CITY. NOW THEREFORE I TIM BUSSEY, MAYOR OF THE CITY BLOOMINGTON ,MINNESOTA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2024 AS JUNETEENTH IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS CELEBRATION. AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY AND CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD RACIAL EQUITY AND REALIZATION OF THE FULL PROMISE OF EMANCIPATION SIGNED THE 17TH DAY OF JUNE 2024. NOW JUNETEENTH IS OFFICIALLY WEDNESDAY AND JUNE 19TH AND CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED NOW THAT IT'S A STATE HOLIDAY AND WILL BE CLOSED ON JUNE 19TH. WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY ON SATURDAY TO CELEBRATE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, JUNETEENTH. AND IF YOU WEREN'T HERE I'M SORRY YOU WEREN'T BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF FUN. CITY HALL DESPITE THE RAIN WAS FULL IT WAS INCREDIBLE ENERGY. IT WAS FULL OF DANCING MUSIC AND FOOD AND VERY WET FOOD TRUCKS AND LOCAL VENDORS JUST A GREAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FOLKS WHO PUT THAT ALL. FAITH JACKSON IS SITTING OUT THERE. MEMBERS OF OUR I MENTIONED OUR CITY OF BLOOMINGTON BLACK EMPLOYEE NETWORK, THE CHURCH OF NEW LIFE, NORMAN. EVERYBODY WAS SO IMPORTANT TO PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU AND LET YOU CHIME IN AS YOU WOULD LIKE. YOU GOT TO FACE THE CAMERA. OKAY. HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS KELLY JACKSON. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE AS THE MAYOR JUST THE BLACK EMPLOYMENT NETWORK FOR BLOOMING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE DID HAVE A FABULOUS TIME SATURDAY AND IT WAS REALLY GOOD SEEING YOU ALL. HAPPY TO BE HERE AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS TIME TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT DAY. INDEED IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION . THE NEXT OFFICIAL PART IS WE HAVE TO DO A GRIP AND GRIN SO LET'S STEP OVER HERE. I WILL PRESENT YOU OFFICIALLY WITH THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN YOU CAN SHARE THIS THEN WITH THE REST OF THE NETWORK YOU COUNCIL ITEM 2.5 ON OUR AGENDA ACTUALLY FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE ALL APPOINTMENTS AND AM 2.5 IS AN APPOINTMENT TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAD TWO OPENINGS ON OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND I MEAN I WILL SAY ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE IMPORTANT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS AS A SPECIAL IMPORTANCE THEY DO A LOT OF BIG WORK AND THEY MAKE SOME VERY IMPORTANT FINANCIAL DECISIONS FOR THE CITY BLOOMINGTON AND SO WE MADE A POINT WITH TWO OPENINGS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE MADE A POINT OF INTERVIEWING VERY, VERY THOROUGHLY ACTUALLY THE DOZEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO CAME FORWARD AND SUBMITTED THEIR NAME AS APPLICANTS FOR THOSE POSITIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBERS DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR SERVING ON THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS OUR ARE ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION THEMSELVES . I'M BLANKING ON HER NAME HELP ME HERE JOANNA THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE DID AS I SAID TALK A DOZEN PEOPLE OVER THE COURSE OF 4 HOURS AND HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION AND HAVE COME FORWARD WITH A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RATHER THAN ME CONTINUING TO TALK THERE'S PLENTY OF ME TALKING. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE FOLKS WHO WERE PART OF THAT INTERVIEW PANEL AND PERHAPS TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, WHAT WE STATED AHEAD OF TIME, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF APPOINTMENT, WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IN CANDIDATES, WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE AND WHAT WE DID SEE WHEN WE TALKED TO THOSE DOZEN PEOPLE. SO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS OFF? SURE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YEAH. SO THE THE ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS HAD BEFORE WE GOT STARTED WAS ASKING THE JOANNA THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT'S THE MAKEUP OF THE OF THE BOARD TODAY? WHAT YOU KNOW WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE LEAVING WHAT ARE YOU LOSING? YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KINDS THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH A SENSE FOR WHAT EXPERTIZE OR KNOWLEDGE WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL THE WORK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ESPECIALLY KNOWING THE WORK PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AND YOU KNOW THE THEMES THAT WE WERE WE AGREED UPON WERE A SENSE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF OF THE THE PLIGHT AND THE VALUE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY HERE. SO SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE FOCUSED ON THAT OR ARE CLEAR ON THAT AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING FOR SUSTAINABILITY AND CHANGE SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT WORK PLAN ITEMS TO CHANGE OUR CODES AND THAT KIND OF THING THAT WE HAD SOME YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AND AVAILABLE EXPERTIZE TO LOOK AT THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS OR WILL BE IN OUR IN OUR SCHOOLS IN SOME WAY SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING A LOT OF FUNDING THROUGH AND DOING SOME CAPITAL WORK THEMSELVES AND THAT KIND OF THING AND THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. AND THEN THE FOURTH THING THAT I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT WAS THAT IF WE COULD FIND FOLKS THAT HAD EXPLICITLY SOME COMMERCIAL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ITEMS THAT ARE ON OUR LIST AND, OUR AGENDA GOING FORWARD THINGS LIKE THE LYNDALE RETROFIT AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE WAY THAT WE SET UP I THINK OUR COLLECTIVE HEADS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE COULD BRING TO THE TABLE. THANKS. THANK YOU. CAN'T REMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOMAN NELSON OR RIVAS ANYTHING TO ADD? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, PLEASE. THANKS MAYOR. THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS IN MY EXPERIENCE THIS WAS PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT TO NARROW DOWN OF ANY COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS AND WE SPOKE POSITIVELY OF ALL 12 PEOPLE THAT APPLIED AND I GUESS I WOULD JUST GIVE MY STRONG ENCOURAGEMENT TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM TO LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. THESE WERE GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE. IT WAS IT WAS TOUGH. WE SPENT AN HOUR WITHIN FIVE, 6 HOURS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE AND GOING BACK AND FORTH. AND SO I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES TIME ON THAT AND JUST HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW WE DID ULTIMATELY NARROW IT DOWN AS AS ULTIMATELY YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS YOU CAN'T JUST SIT THERE AND TALK OR MAKE SOME TIME DECIDE SO SO AGAIN THE PEOPLE WERE FANTASTIC I JUST HOPE IF THOSE THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S ONLY SPOTS FOR 12 PEOPLE TEN OF THEM AREN'T GOING TO GET APPOINTED. I HOPE THEY STAY INVOLVED AND FIND ANOTHER WAY TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS, COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, ANYTHING TO ADD COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN ANYTHING ON THE BRIEF HERE? YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS A TOUGH I THINK WHAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW IS THE QUESTIONS AND THE PREPARATION THAT THESE FOLKS WENT THROUGH. AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD TO DO THIS. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AS WELL HAVE YOU KNOW, REALLY DONE NICE JOB OF OF MOVING US FROM WHERE WE WERE SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND YET THERE'S ALWAYS MORE WORK TO BE DONE. MAYBE THEY CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO MAKE A DECISION IN THE END TOO BUT HATS OFF TO THEM AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS BANK ACCOUNTS MEMBERS GUZMAN RIVAS OR I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT TIME IT WAS TOUGH TO DECIDE IT. EVERYBODY WAS VERY QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO DECIDE WHICH ONES TO DO IT. BUT I THINK WE CAME TO THE PROPER AGREEMENT TO BRING THE MOST QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO THE POSITIONS. BUT THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY . ABSOLUTELY. SO COUNCIL AS I AS I MENTIONED WE DID TALK TO A DOZEN PEOPLE AND WHENEVER WE GET TO THIS I ALWAYS SHARE OF THE TIME I MEAN EARLY IN MY COUNCIL CAREER WHEN I REMEMBER WE LITERALLY HAD TO CALL PEOPLE AND ASK THEM TO APPLY FOR BOARDS AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ANYBODY APPLY AND TO HAVE THE PROCESS IN PLACE THAT WE DO NOW AND THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN FOR BRINGING THAT UP TO HAVE THE THE PROCESS IN PLACE NOW AND THE STAFF WORK TO DO TO RECRUIT AND TO FIND THESE OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES. IT MAKES OUR LIFE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY GOOD CANDIDATES BUT IT IS SO MUCH STRONGER THAN IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST TERMS OF MAKING THESE IMPORTANT APPOINTMENTS TO CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AFTER TALKING TO A DOZEN PEOPLE AND REVIEWING AND I THINK AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID LITERALLY EVERY NAME CAME UP AT LEAST SOME POINT WITH WITH POSITIVE COMMENTS ON IT PEOPLE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE APPOINTMENT COMMITTEE WAS TO MOVE TO APPOINT KEVIN CUNNINGHAM INDIANA WHITE TO THE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. NOW WE'VE SAID ALL ALONG THAT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION OF THAT COMMITTEE. THE COUNCIL CAN DO WHATEVER WOULD LIKE BUT THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE AND PASSED FORWARD AND HAVE AN AN AGENDA PACKET TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF VOTING AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS AS TO WHO TO APPOINT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE WE HAVE 12 FOLKS AND WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IS VOTE FOR TWO OF THEM PLEASE AS WE GO THROUGH VOTE FOR TWO AT A TIME AND AS WE GET TO THE END IF HAVE SOMEBODY WITH FOUR VOTES A MAJORITY OF VOTES THAT PERSON MOVE FORWARD AS AN APPOINTMENT. IF WE DON'T GET TO FOUR VOTES, WHAT WE'LL DO THEN IS PROBABLY ELIMINATE FOLKS WHO WHO DO NOT ANY VOTES AND WILL WILL REVOTE UNTIL WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES WITH FOUR VOTES EACH. EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? MISS MERCER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CALLING NAMES IF YOU COULDN'T WILL KEEP TRACK AND I THINK WE'RE JUST HEADED NOT QUITE RIGHT DOWN TO THE DAIS HERE BUT SO FAR WE'LL CALL YOUR NAME AND IF YOU CAN OFFER YOUR TWO VOTES AND OFFER THEM EITHER BY NAME OR A NUMBER WOULD BE EASIEST. SO IF I'M PLEASE THANK YOU. MAYOR D'ALESSANDRO CUNNINGHAM AND WHITE CARTER CUNNINGHAM AND WHITE MUIR CUNNINGHAM AND WHITE RIVAS KIND OF HAD THE WHITE NELSON CUNNINGHAM AND WHITE LOMAN I'LL GO WITH NUMBER ONE NUMBER 12 AND MAYOR BUZZY CUNNINGHAM AND SO COUNCIL BASED ON THE TALLY THAT I HAVE HERE BOTH KEVIN CUNNINGHAM OH KEVIN CUNNINGHAM HAS SIX VOTES FOR APPOINTMENT. DEANNA WHITE HAS SEVEN VOTES FOR APPOINTMENT SO COUNCIL I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT KEVIN CUNNINGHAM AND DEANNA WHITE TO TERMS FROM TERMS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GO FROM SEVEN 124 TO 6 3027. MARY BE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN WITH THE MOTION COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WITH THE SECOND TO APPOINT KEVIN CUNNINGHAM INDIANA TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SAID THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH TO THE OTHER FOLKS WHO DID APPLY WE HAD AN OUTSTANDING POOL OF CANDIDATES AND I REALLY HOPE YOU STAY INVOLVED AND LOOK FOR OTHER OPTIONS, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO DO AND WE'D LOVE TO PUT YOU TO WORK IN THE CITY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. COUNCIL ITEM 2.6 ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR SECOND APPOINTMENT. THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT OF THE YOUNG ADULT MEMBER TO THE PARKS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION AND THIS WILL BE A FOUR RETURN FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST 24 TO AUGUST 31ST 2025. WE HAD TWO APPLICATIONS AND ONE WE HAVE ONE OPENING ON OUR BOARD AND YOU CAN SEE THE NAMES ARE ADELINE BYRD AND DEREK FELSTEAD AND SO FAR IF YOU COULD CALL IF YOU COULD START THE VOTING WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH THE VOTING LOOKING FOR TRYING TO GET THROUGH TO FOURTH RIVAS I'M SORRY BUT I WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA WHO THEY ARE MUA ADELINE BYRD CARTER DERRICK CHARLESTON DALLAS SANDRA ADELINE BYRD LOWMAN ADELINE BYRD NELSON ADELINE BYRD AND MIA BUSSEY ADELINE BYRD SO COUNCIL BASED ON MY TALLY HERE ADELINE BYRD HAS RECEIVED FIVE VOTES TO BE APPOINTED YOUNG ADULT MEMBER TWO THE PERKS ARTS AND RECREATION COMMISSION I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT MISS BYRD TO A A TERM FROM 901 24 TO 8 3125 SOME MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO APPOINT ADELINE BYRD TO THE PARKS ARTS RECREATION COMMISSION. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I HAVE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS ABSTAINING THIS EVENING . ITEM 2.7 IS AN APPOINTMENT OF THE YOUNG ADULT MEMBERS THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AGAIN WE HAVE WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS AND WE HAVE TWO WE HAVE TWO APPLICANTS. IT LOOKS LIKE IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY AND THESE ARE FOR THE TERMS THAT WOULD RUN NINE 124 AGAIN TO EIGHT 3125 SO I CAN'T SO WE COULD GO THROUGH THE VOTING OR WE COULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT SAM PORTER PORTER AND AMELIA WEINER'S TWO ARE AS YOUNG ADULT MEMBERS ARE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION SOME OF THEM SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT SAM PORTER AND AMELIA WEINER TO OUR SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION FOR A TERM RUNNING NINE 124 TO 8 3125 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO IN COUNCIL THE LAST ITEM HERE IS AN APPOINTMENT TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND. THE WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS IS WE HAVE WE HAVE ONE OPENING AND WE HAVE THREE APPLICANTS AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT HAD BACK IN MARCH OF 24 WE HAD AN APPOINTMENT TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND TWO OF OUR THREE APPLICANTS WERE WERE APPLICANTS AT THAT TIME AS WELL AND THEY WERE LISTED BY THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME A APPLICANTS THAT WOULD HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ON THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS. SO FOLKS WHO THEY REALLY TRUSTED AND SO THE THE INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD I THINK TO TO CONSIDER WHAT THAT PREVIOUS INTERVIEW BOARD LOOKED AT AND CONSIDERED AND PERHAPS DECIDE WHICH OF THE CANDIDATES WOULD WOULD BE BEST IN THE ROLE ON THE ON THE BOARD OF HEALTH EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, WE ONE OPENING SO THERE WILL BE ONE VOTE FOR THE THREE MEMBERS THAT ARE THE THREE CANDIDATES HERE THERE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. CLARIFICATION ALL THREE OF THE APPLICANTS MEET THE PROVIDER REQUIREMENTS. IS THAT ACCURATE? IT LOOKED LIKE IT TO ME BUT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROVIDER VERSUS RESIDENT AND I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT THE CASE. YES OKAY THANK YOU YES THANKS . ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO PLEASE LOWMAN MARINE CHAMPION. CARTER MARINE CHAMPION NELSON MARINE CHAMPION MAHWAH MARINE CHAMPION DALLESSANDRO CAMPION RIVAS AND MAYOR BASIE MARINE CHAMPION COUNCIL MARINE CAMPION HAS RECEIVED SEVEN VOTES TO BE APPOINTED TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPOINT A MARINE CHAMPION TO THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH SO MOVED MOTIONED BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO APPOINT MARINE CAMPION TO A PROVIDER MEMBER SEAT FROM THE DATE OF APPOINTMENT ON FEBRUARY. FROM THE DATE OF APPOINTMENT THAT WOULD BE TONIGHT TO FEBRUARY 20TH, 2026 ON THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I II OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MUCH FOR THAT AND ECHOING ONCE AGAIN THANKS TO OUR STAFF WHO PULL ALL OF THIS TOGETHER AND THEY GET A LOT OF INFORMATION AND THERE'S A LOT OF IN THE AIR AND A LOT THAT THEY KEEP STRAIGHT AND THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. SO I WANT TO TIP MY HAT TO STAFF AND FOR THE THAT THEY DO AND THEY'RE MAKING THIS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR US WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE HOLDS FOR 3.1 AND 3.2 JUST LAST CALL IF ANYBODY HAS SOMETHING I MISSED 3.4 THANK YOU FOR THAT THEN WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ITEM 3.3 AND ITEMS 3.5 THROUGH 3.19 A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO ITEM 3.1 COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH JUST QUICK ITEM ON 3.1 AND ACTUALLY IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT I WILL PROBABLY SPEAK TO 3.2 AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF SEPARATE THEM EVEN THOUGH WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATE VOTES IF I COULD COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IF I COULD USURP YOU IN THEN 3.1 IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT I SERVE YOU ALL THE TIME I KNOW THAT OTHER CITY ARE REQUIRED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE THE APPLICANT THEY HAVE ASKED TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO ON ITEM 3.1 IS MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NO LATER THAN AUGUST 5TH AND DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK SOONER IF AT ALL POSSIBLE SO I CAN GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEM 3.1 UNTIL AUGUST 5TH OR SOONER IF POSSIBLE. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO MY APOLOGIES COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ANY NO NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE YOU SAVE SOME TIME FOR US THAT'S GREAT THAT'S OUR NELSON'S ITEM 3.2 SO 3.2 I JUST WANT TO TALK TO THERE WAS A CONDITION AND 3.1 RELATED TO NOISE AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THERE WAS SOME CONDITIONS THAT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT IF THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE 3.2 ALSO BE IN A RESTAURANT WITH A PATIO DID NOT HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE. THERE WERE REASONS FOR IT AND I KNOW PLANNING LOOKED INTO THAT. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS THE ONE FOR PIG. MY PIZZA IS AT GROUND LEVEL NOT ON A ROOF SO IT ISN'T GOING TO RADIATE AS FAR AND ALSO THERE WAS YOU KNOW A BUILDING THERE MY CONCERN OR THE OTHER ASPECT WAS THAT PIG ATE MY PIZZA CLOSE TEN AS OPPOSED TO BEING OPEN UNTIL AFTER MIDNIGHT LIKE THE OTHER APPLICANT AND MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS GIVEN THAT IT'S A PUPPY THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND AND STAY OPEN LATER OR A DIFFERENT RESTAURANT COULD COME IN AND SET UP A BARN THERE AND UNTIL 12 OR 1:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF WE EXISTING NOISE ORDINANCES IN PLACE AND SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE CAME IN THERE EVEN IF IT WAS A C U P WE STILL HAVE NOISE ORDINANCES TO ENFORCE IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH NIGHTTIME NOISE FROM A EITHER A CHANGE IN HOW THEY WANT TO USE IT OR A DIFFERENT USE AND MY ACCURATE IN THAT GREETING WELCOME HI MAYOR SENIOR PLANNER NICK JANSEN AND LIZ ARE DAVE IS THE PROJECT PLANNER BUT SPEAKING MORE BROADLY POLICY WISE WHAT HAPPENS ACROSS THE CITY SO YES IF THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT LIMIT HOURS OF OPERATIO WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH THEN OR A COMPLAINT BASED CONDITION WAS THE CASE IN THE OTHER ONE. WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH THEN IS THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND SO I THINK CITIES GENERALLY DON'T LIKE TO ENFORCE OR IMPOSE OUR RESTRICTIONS ON BUSINESSES BECAUSE. IT MAKES REUSE REALLY DIFFICULT AND KIND OF MAKES YOU KNOW, SPECIAL OR SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS OR CIRCUMSTANCES DIFFICULT. AND SO THEN YES, WHAT YOU'D BE LEFT WITH THEN IS THE THE NOISE ORDINANCE WHICH IS GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE AND THE CITY CODE ADOPTS THAT THE STANDARDS AFTER 10 P.M. THEY'RE MORE RIGOROUS AFTER 10 P.M. SO THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DO ENFORCEMENT OF SOME KIND OF MEASUREMENT INVESTIGATION AND THERE WOULD BE SOME ENFORCEMENT ACTION TO THAT. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T OPENING SOMETHING UP THAT COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. SO I'M I'M TO COUNSEL ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THAT? LET'S REMEMBER NELSON IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE OVER PROMOTION MOTION MOVE ITEM 3.2 MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.2 ON OUR CONSENT BUSINESS NO FOR THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND ITEM 3.4. IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? PREMIER DALLESSANDRO THANK THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IT'S PROBABLY RELATED TO 3.33.4 NOT ATTEMPTING TO HOLD THEM ANY REASON OTHER THAN TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR PULLING THESE UP AND INCLUDING ESPECIALLY THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT'LL COINCIDE WITH THE BRYANT PARK PROJECT THOSE CROSSWALKS AT AT 86TH STREET ON BRYANT AND EMERSON WILL IMPROVE SAFETY WISE FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO THE PARK INCLUDING YOUNG FOLK WHO YOU KNOW, NEED HELP GETTING ACROSS THOSE STREETS. I ASSUME WE'LL SEE 82ND COMING UP AT SOME POINT TO NOW MAKE ME HAPPY JUST WANTED TO SAY SPECIAL THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW THAT GOT KIND OF PULLED UP IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CITY CAN BE MORE LESS SILOED AND MORE INTERACTIVE WITH THE WAY THAT WE DESIGN THESE NEW BIG PROJECTS WHEN WE'RE SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY ON A PARK IT'S REALLY TO ASK THE QUESTION CAN PEOPLE GET TO AND FROM THAT PARK SAFELY BY LOTS OF DIFFERENT MEANS AND SO GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THOSE TEAMS WORK TOGETHER AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH THAT. I'M VERY HAPPY TO MOVE 3.4 TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE BID TO AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE 2024 PMP PARK TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN MCNAMARA CONTRACTING IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION WON $21,019.75 AND APPROVE VARIOUS CONTRACT CHANGES UP TO 12% OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR A TOTAL PROJECT AUTHORIZATION OF 1.25 5,000,002ND MOST OF MAY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.4 AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I JUST WANT TO SAY DITTO ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SAID THERE. I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO HOLD IT AND DO THE SAME THING SO THANK YOU RECORD REFLECT DITTO BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION HEARING ON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MEMBER COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER NELSON FOR YOUR ON THE CONSENT BUSINESS THIS EVENING WE WILL MOVE ITEM FOR THIS EVENING ITEM FOR AS ARE HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES AND OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING IS ITEM 4.1. THIS IS REGARDING A CITY CODE AMENDMENT AND AN UPDATE OF ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS AND MICHELLE LINCOLN FROM OUR PLANNING STAFF IS HERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE MR. JOHNSON MOVING INTO POSITION WELL AND GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL I AM HAPPY TO PRESENT THE CODE AMENDMENTS FOR OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND THIS WAS ADDED TO THE 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PLAN IN MIDYEAR SO IT SPANS 2023 AND 2024. I WENT TO PLANNING ON THE STUDY ITEM DISCUSSION AND CITY COUNCIL STUDY ITEM DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY WE HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 9TH AND THEN TODAY WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS IS JUST A REMINDER OF THE DISCUSSION FROM THE STUDY ITEM BACK IN FEBRUARY OTHER ITEMS IN RED WERE DETERMINED TO NOT BE A PRIORITY OR NOT SOMETHING TO CONTINUE FROM THE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE ITEMS IN GREEN WERE THE THINGS TO CONTINUE TO PURSUE PURSUE. SO FOR TREE PRESERVATION WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TAX FOR CLARITY WHICH HAS NO MAJOR REGULATION CHANGES AND THEN FOR SLOPES WILL HAVE SIMILAR TEXT CLEAN UP REFINING REFINEMENT AND ADDING THE DEFINITION STEEP SLOPES TO THE CODE AS WELL AS ADD STEEP REST PRACTICES THEN FOR WILDLIFE AND HABITAT WE HAVE EDUCATION FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. I'LL BE PRESENTING TREE PRESERVATION AND SLOPES CODE AMENDMENTS AND I'LL BE GIVING YOU A WILDLIFE AND HABITAT UPDATE AT THE AFTER WE JUST I PRESENT THE CODE AMENDMENTS SO THE KEY SUMMARY OF KEY CHANGES FOR THE PROTECTION IS THAT WE CHANGE THE TITLE FROM STEEP SLOPES TO PROTECTION AND TO BETTER REPRESENT THE CONTENT OF THAT SECTION AND MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR OTHER INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE . ALSO ADDED REFERENCES TO BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY REGULATIONS BUT THEY ASSIST OUR WATER RESOURCES TEAM IN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BEING ADAPTIVE TO THE MOST CURRENT SCIENCE AND PROFESSIONAL AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY ORDER TO MAKE SURE THE BEST STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES ARE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ADMINISTER WITHIN THIS CODE . AND THEN WE DID SOME KIND OF TESTS CLEAN THEM UP FOR CROSS-REFERENCING AND FORMATTING UPDATES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ALIGNED WITH THESE CHANGES THE TREE PRESERVATION KEY THERE'S AN ENHANCED PURPOSE SECTION WHERE IT ADDS THAT TREES SUPPORT AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WE ALSO HAVE A NEW DEFINITION OF NON BENEFICIAL TREES AND NEW STANDARD THAT PLANTED TREES BE NO MORE THAN 50% NON-NATIVE BENEFICIAL. THIS REPLACES A REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS THAT IT COULD BE TREES SIMILAR TO THE SITE IN DISCUSSION THE CITY FORESTER THEY DECIDED THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BETTER PRACTICE TO ADDRESS IF THERE'S INVASIVE SPECIES OR THINGS OR SPECIES THERE THAT WE DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A PROVISION THAT SAYS PEOPLE CAN REPLANT SO THIS IS BETTER IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE CODE AS WELL AS THE CURRENT PRACTICE IN ADMINISTRATION OF OUR CODE WE ALSO REFORMATTED THE DEFINITION OF SIGNIFICANT TREE. IT IS MUCH MORE READABLE NOW, MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE HOPEFULLY MUCH MORE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGING WITH THE CODE OUTSIDE OF CITY STAFF AS WELL AS WEST CITY STAFF WHEN WE NEED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY FORESTER WE ALSO UPDATED REFERENCES AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LICENSED AND CERTIFIED AND MAKE SURE THE APPROPRIATE PROFESSIONAL IS IDENTIFIED WITH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PLANS IN THIS SECTION CODE WE CLARIFIED A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WHEN CERTAIN STANDARDS APPLY OR THEY'RE TRIGGERED THERE WAS NO REGULATION CHANGE. IT'S JUST MUCH STRAIGHTFORWARD ON WHEN SOMETHING IS TRIGGERED WITH TREE PRESERVATION WE ALSO CHANGED SUBDIVIDED WE UPDATED IT TO LAND OWNER AND APPLICANT TO BETTER REPRESENT WHO MIGHT BE FULFILLING REQUIREMENTS. THERE YOU GO AND OUR WILDLIFE AND HABITAT EDUCATION UPDATE I DISCUSSED WITH PUBLIC RESOURCES OR EXCUSE ME PUBLIC WORKS NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE SUSTAINABILITY TEAMS ABOUT WHAT CURRENTLY WORKING ON WE HAVE A BETTER STRATEGIC PLAN IMPLEMENTATION IT'S THE HEALTHY COMMUNITIES THEME. THERE'S A MICRO-BUSINESS TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT PLAN THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF WILDLIFE AND OR HABITAT WITHIN THOSE SPECIFIC. SO THOSE ARE UPCOMING. THERE'S ALSO THE ECOLOGIC LAND STEWARDSHIP MICRO-BUSINESS TEAM. THIS IS ACTUALLY HAVING VARIOUS FROM THE COMMUNITY GET INVOLVED AND UNDERSTAND PRIVATE THEY CAN TAKE ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT SUPPORT AND HABITAT SO THAT'S CURRENTLY A PILOT PROGRAM THEY'RE DEVELOPING THAT RIGHT NOW SO MORE WILL BE COMING ABOUT ACTUALLY LANDOWNERS TAKING THOSE PRIVATE ACTIONS CURRENTLY WE HAVE NATURALIST PROGRAMS THERE WAS A NATURALIST PROGRAM IT LAST YEAR AND ITS RETURNING THIS YEAR AND IT'S VARIOUS CLASSES HELD BY PARKS AND RECREATION AND ON DIFFERENT TOPICS IT'S KIND OF A REVOLVING DOOR OF TOPICS THEY TALK ABOUT PRAIRIES AND POLLINATORS INVASIVE PLANTS, HOW TO SUPPORT MONARCH BUTTERFLIES, BIRDING AND IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE OF ALL AGES. SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SOME YOUTH PROGRAMING IN THERE WHICH REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THAT EDUCATION WAS REALLY SPEAKING AS SOMEONE WHO LOVED THAT STUFF AS A AND ALSO CAN BE A WAY TO GET PARENTS GUARDIANS INVOLVED ALSO TO MANAGE NATURAL ORDINANCE SUPPORTS WILDLIFE AND HABITAT AND THAT ADOPTED MUSIC AT THE MAY 6TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING SO THE WILDLIFE HABITAT EDUCATION THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ALREADY UNDERWAY THAT FULFILL THE REQUIREMENT OF KIND OF LOW OR NO COST METHODS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY BEING FUNDED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. SO RECOMMENDATION IN THESE CODE AMENDMENTS FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF IS THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE THROUGH THIS FOLLOWING MOTION I THINK IS LEGAL COUNSEL ONLY QUESTIONS NO QUESTIONS AS OF NOW BUT DON'T GO FAR. ALL RIGHT. OH COUNCILMEMBER. YES, I APOLOGIZE. WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW I WANTED TO ASK IT AND I REALIZED THE TIMER WENT OFF. SORRY. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING. SO I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT TO THAT THESE THESE CLARIFICATIONS WERE NOT INTENDED TO CHANGE DRASTICALLY ANY OF THE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES. RIGHT. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE ONE OF THE REASONS WE ASKED FOR PLANNING TO LOOK AT THIS WAS BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE R1R1A WHATEVER THAT WHOLE THING IS STUFF THAT WE DEALT WITH LAST YEAR. RIGHT. AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I MIGHT ASK IS WHY AFTER THE REVIEW THERE IF THERE WEREN'T ANY MAJOR CHANGES OR CLARIFICATIONS? WHAT WAS THE WAS THE REVIEW LIKE AND WHAT HOW DID YOU COME THAT CONCLUSION THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO MAKE MAJOR CHANGES TO CERTAIN THINGS IF THAT MAKES SENSE? MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS SO DURING THE STUDY ITEM PROCESS LIKE WHEN I ACTUALLY GO BACK. SURE. TO HIGHLIGHT THIS SORRY I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TIME HERE. SO DURING THE REVIEW IT INCLUDED SOME OF THE ITEMS IN RED ACTUALLY FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE REGULATIONS AND HOW THE CODE IS ADMINISTERED. AND IT WAS THE DIRECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL NOT TO GO INTO THAT DIRECTION. SO THE KIND OF GREEN ITEMS WERE WHERE WE FOCUSED OUR ENERGY AFTER THE STUDY ITEM SESSION. SO THE REVIEW DID INCLUDE A KIND OF A A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF OR EXCUSE ME REVIEW OF THE OPTIONS THAT WERE AVAILABLE THAT INCLUDED A SPECTRUM OF CHANGES FROM CLARITY OR TEXT CLEAN UP TO LIKE ACTUAL SUBSTANTIAL OVERHAUL ALL IN HOW RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES HANDLE THESE THREE THINGS AND NEUTRAL I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THESE BEFORE IT CAME TO PLANNING COMMISSION THE THE THESE THINGS WENT THROUGH SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION AS WELL. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? THERE WAS DISCUSSION WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION ON THESE THINGS OR BOTH EMMA. EMMA STRAUSS YEAH. SO THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH THIS DISTAIN ABILITY WE TALKED ABOUT OF THESE ITEMS AND IT WAS KIND OF LIKE YEAH THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ESPECIALLY FOR THE MANAGED AND LANDSCAPING. AND THEY HAD NO SUBSTANTIAL FROM THE REVIEW OF THE REPORT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. I HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT FOR LATER. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD POINTS MEMBER LOGAN. SO SO JUST ONE ONE QUESTION. I COULD GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. I PROMISE YOU I WANT TO DO THAT. SO JUST FOR THE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT JUST YOU KNOW WHAT'S ISSUES THAT ONE IS THE EXAMPLE CAN YOU KIND OF HELP OR HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE STAFF'S YOU KNOW THOUGHT PROCESS AS TO WHY THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT OR MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST HELP ME ON OR KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH THAT. MR. MARIN COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION OVERLAY DISTRICT THIS KIND OF WOULD FOLLOW BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE ISN'T ISN'T DETAILED ENOUGH. SO THIS WOULD BE A AN OPTION THAT WOULD ALSO COME WITH A SIGNIFICANT COST IN SOME WAY. TYPICALLY A CONSULTANT THAT DOES SCIENTIFIC STUDY IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND AND WHERE THE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION DISTRICT COULD BE IN THE EXAMPLES THAT I REVIEWED FROM OTHER CITIES THEY TYPICALLY HAVE A DETAILED PROFILE OF THE WILDLIFE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO SUPPORT AND CREATING A NEW IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT PLANNING COMMISSION AND THROUGH CONVERSATION WITH LIKE NICK AND OTHER LEADERSHIP IN PLANNING DIVISION IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T TAKE VERY BECAUSE IT ADDS SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE COMPLEXITY THE CODE AND HOW IT'S ADMINISTERED BY LAYING THESE THINGS TOGETHER. SO IN THAT IN HAVING THE WILDLIFE CONSERVATION DISTRICT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AS WELL AS COST TO FOR AN ANNUAL COST AND THEN ADDING ADDITIONAL COMPLEXITY TO THE CODE FOR UNCLEAR BENEFIT WITHOUT HAVING NECESSARILY A SCIENTIFIC THE SCIENTIFIC TO UNDERSTAND WILDLIFE IN THE BLOOMINGTON CONTEXT THANK YOU FOR THAT. JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION. SO AS WE LOOK AT ALL THESE ITEMS THAT ARE IN RED AND GREEN YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE'VE KIND OF DECLARED A CLIMATE EMERGENCY, WOULD ANY OF THESE ITEMS AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT HELP TO EFFECTUATE THAT OR MOVE THAT THAT SCALE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON FORWARD. THE STAFF CONSIDER THAT AT ALL WHEN LOOKING AT THESE THESE ITEMS HERE. SO SOME OF THESE COULD COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS OR IN PROGRESS TO GET STARTED. SO I THINK THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS REALLY GOING TO BE LIKE KIND OF THE BASED DOCUMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF OUR NEXT STEPS WILL BE AND. IT MAY INCLUDE SOME OF THESE THINGS BUT WE MAY THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN MAY ALSO REVEAL DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OR THINGS OR ITEMS AND ACTIONS THAT WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT WHERE THESE ITEMS MAY HAVE. TAKE A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND FINANCIAL INVESTMENT BUT NOT HAVE THE RESULTS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY. BUT THE MORE DETAILS OF THAT WOULD I THINK BE MORE CLEAR AFTER THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. SO YOU COULD SEE THESE AGAIN. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU. MAYOR SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE GREEN BOXES ARE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL INSTRUCTED STAFF TO GO, RIGHT? MR. MARIN COUNCILMEMBERS THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE I THINK SOME OF THE LANGUAGE YOU WERE SAYING WHY DID STAFF THIS OR YOU KNOW AND I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC THAT THE GREEN BOXES AND THE RED BOXES THE GREEN IS WHERE CITY COUNCIL TOLD STAFF TO GO AND CROW. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. THANK BECAUSE THEN I THINK ADDITIONAL. ALL RIGHT. IF NOT THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING AND I WILL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND ITEM 4.1. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CITY CODE AMENDMENTS THE ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS UPDATE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.1 THIS EVENING ? DO WE ANYONE ON T PHONE? NO. LAST CALL. ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS TO SPEAK TO THEM? 4.1 COUNCIL NOBODY IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOOKING TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.1. WE HAVE NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING SO MOVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PROPOSE MOTION CARRY OF SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ITEM 4.1 SO COUNCIL COMMENTS ARE OPINIONS. WHERE DO WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M FINE MOVING THE ORDINANCE IF THAT'S WHERE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL'S AT. I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE ESPECIALLY OUR RESOURCES MANAGEMENT OFFICE WHO IS DOING MOST OF THE WORK ON OUR FORESTER TREES TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THOSE TREE PRESERVATION STANDARDS REQUEST REQUESTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE TO YOU KNOW CARTER'S POINT WE WE LEAVE MOVED THOSE BUT I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION HERE ABOUT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME FOLKS UP HERE THAT STILL WANT TO SEE THAT WORK DONE AND IF THAT CAN SHIFT TO EITHER THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OR TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES OFFICE, THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. SO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S BULLY WORK AT THE MOMENT BUT WOULD TO SEE SOMEBODY PICK THAT UP AND RUN WITH IT. JUST GIVEN THE SPECIALTY AND DO THINK WE'VE GOT SOME WORK GOING ON ON LIKE BOTH OUR TREES FOR EXAMPLE SO SOME OF THAT WORK IS HAPPENING JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE. SO WITH THAT IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE THE OTHER COMMENTS I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT. COUNCILMEMBER YEAH, I'VE GOT A COMMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS THIS EVENING. I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO KIND OF WANTED US TO TAKE A STRONGER STANCE AND JUST MAKE MORE WAVES WITH THIS AND WANTED TO TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER BUCKETS. I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN KIND OF DO IT HERE OR DO IT THERE BUT I THINK YOU GOT TO START THIS WORK SOMEWHERE AND I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START THAT THAT WORK AND I JUST WANT US TO BE MORE PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS THIS PARTICULAR ACTION SO I GET IT WHILE I SUPPORT WHERE WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE GONE WITH THIS I JUST WANT US TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER ALIGNMENT OTHERS COUNCIL. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATED THE COMMENT THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS MIGHT COME BACK UP WHEN WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION ON THE ENERGY ACTION PLAN OR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND IF I RECALL I DO THAT WE KIND OF ALLUDED TO THAT FACT, RIGHT? WE JUST KNEW THAT PLANNING COMMISSION WASN'T GOING TO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON A WHOLE LOT WHICH I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO TO AND I MEAN I AGREE. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, WE'VE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT PERFECTION CAN GET IN THE WAY OF AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THESE CHANGES WITH THE HOPE THAT OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE IN ALL AREAS OF THE CITY AND WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL BE BEHIND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN ON THIS BECAUSE I HAVE MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. I UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE LAST MEETING WE AGREED THAT ONLY THE THE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED TODAY WERE WERE ASKED OF US TO WORK ON. HOWEVER, THE SPIRIT OF IMPROVING ON WHAT THE CALLED TWO YEARS AGO AN EMERGENCY I THINK WE DO NEED TO PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING. THANK YOU AND COUNCILMEMBER I'LL SIGN ANYTHING ADDITIONAL . IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR ACTION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. OUR MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 BY UPDATING AND CLARIFYING THE TREE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION STANDARDS. MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CIRCLED MY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 19 AND 21 BY UPDATING AND CLARIFYING TREE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FIVE TWO WITH COUNCILMEMBERS RIVAS AND LOWMAN IN OPPOSITION. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO I MOVED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 319 AND 21 NOT 29 BY UPDATING AND CLARIFYING TREE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION STANDARDS. MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO CIRCLED MY COUNCILMEMBER FOR SUMMARY OF THEM 4.1 THIS EVENING BEFORE THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. WE WILL MOVE ON. IN OUR AGENDA ITEM 4.2 THIS IS OUR SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. THIS REGARDING OUR PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE IS MANDATED. GOOD EVENING ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO STAY UP HERE IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT AND I'VE AMIR TO MOVE ON UP TO THE FRONT ROW . ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ASKED US TO WORK ON. YOU CAN PROCEED TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE ACT IS GOING TO RAISE THE MICROPHONE JUST A TOUCH TO MAKE SURE THAT SO SO AS A REMINDER SO A LITTLE BIT OF DIALOG THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. MICROPHONE MANAGEMENT NOT THAT I'M NOT NERVOUS. ALL RIGHT. JUST AS A REMINDER SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. BACK IN DECEMBER, THE COUNCIL WAS MEETING ABOUT A PROJECT AND HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LABOR PROTECTIONS ON THAT SITE AND SO IT DIRECTED THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHERS TO RESEARCH PREVAILING WAGE AND WAGE THEFT. THEN WE CAME BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR FOR WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK PREVAILING WAGE IN PARTICULAR. FIRST AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE A PLAN FOR WAGE THEFT. SO ON APRIL 29TH OF THIS YEAR WE HAD SEVERAL SPEAKERS THERE, FIVE SPEAKERS AND THEY PRESENTED A VARIETY OF VIEWPOINTS FROM THE RESEARCH AND CONTRACTORS SUBCONTRACT WRITERS AND I THINK WORKERS AND A DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS PREPARED AND DISCUSSED AFTER THAT CONVERSATION. YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING AND I BELIEVE IT WAS LATE JUNE OR EARLY JULY WAS THE DIRECTION IN TO DO SOME OUTREACH? SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT IN MAY AND JUNE. WE HAVE BEEN SORT OF ON A ROADSHOW OF SORTS. WE'VE BEEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE HRA TWICE. WE ALSO IN MAY LAUNCHED WITH THE HELP OF COED THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON SITE RELATED TO PREVAILING WAGE WHERE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS POSTED AND THERE I BELIEVE FIVE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSTED ON THERE AND WE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT. AND WHEN WE STOPPED AT THE HRA THE SECOND TIME THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE EVERYONE THERE AT THE FIRST TIME WE PRESENTED AND SO WE CAME BACK A SECOND TIME AND DURING THAT CONVERSATION THEY MADE A FORMAL MOTION RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. SO WE'VE BEEN REFINING IT, SEEKING FEEDBACK AND HAVING DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY AND OTHERWISE AND ARE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. SO WE FOLLOWED ALL NORMAL PROCESS HERE. WE POSTED IT ON THE PAPER AND SPENT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON NEXT SITE. SO AS A REMINDER I KNOW YOU'VE ALL HEARD THIS BEFORE SO I'M HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE. THIS PREVAILING WAGE ONLY APPLIES TO CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE CITY FUNDED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT THE PROJECT COST IS $175,000 OR MORE. IT'S THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE THE LAW IF A VIOLATION IS DISCOVERED AND AUTHORIZES PENALTIES FOR NONCOMPLIANCE. IT ALSO REQUIRES CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS TO PAY PREVAILING WAGE TO THEIR WORKERS AT THE RAGE AT THE WAGE RATES FOR THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE. AND THEN IT REQUIRES TRACKING COMPLIANCE AND THEN FINALLY IT AUTHORIZES AN EXEMPTION TO REQUIREMENTS FOR. I DIDN'T INCLUDE A SPECIFIC BULLET THIS BUT IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OUR PROCUREMENT PRACTICES. WELL. NEXT SLIDE AS YOU RECALL WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY DEFINITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS I WANT JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE TWO HERE AND JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THIS IS A CITY ORDINANCE BUT AS DEFINED IN THE ORDINANCE IT WOULD APPLY TO HRA AND PORT PROJECTS WITHIN TERM CITIES SO THAT CITY FUNDS APPLIES TO ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION SPECIFICALLY OUR LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS AND I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE THE LOOP THAT AND INDICATE THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AT THE STATE LEVEL. NEXT SLIDE. SO AGAIN A REMINDER ABOUT PREVAILING WAGE IS CALCULATED. IT'S DEFINED IN STATE LAW AND STATE RULES. IT'S DETERMINED BY A STATE AGENCY THEY DO A CALCULATION BASED ON WORK BEING IN WAGES BEING PAID. IT'S A COUNTY SPECIFIC DEFINITION. SO IT WOULD JUST BE HENNEPIN COUNTY AND THEN IT IS SPECIFIC TO THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY THAT WORKER. SO THERE THERE IS A DIFFERENT WAGE RATE FOR AN ELECTRICIAN THAN THERE IS FOR A PLUMBER SORT OF THING. AND NEXT SLIDE. SO AS I MENTIONED ON THE LET'S TALK SIDES IT UP FOR ABOUT A MONTH. WE HAD 107 ACTUAL PEOPLE RESPOND TO ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY. THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE THAT VIEWED WITH THESE. THAT WAS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATED IN A WRITTEN FORMAT OF THAT GROUP. ABOUT 67% WERE CATEGORIZED THEMSELVES AS CONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS AND AROUND 91% BELIEVED THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S MISSION. PREVAILING WAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S MISSION. AMONG THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED THERE WAS SOME AMONG THEM. I HAVE THEM LISTED HERE. THEY FELL INTO THOSE GENERAL CATEGORIES. WE SORT OF SUMMARIZE THEM OUT OF 107 WE DIDN'T. WE WENT WITH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THOSE. AND THE NEXT SLIDE I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THE THE VISUAL DEPICTION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US FROM COIT WITH REGARD TO THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF PARTICIPANTS THAT RESPONDED TO THE LET'S TALK OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN LAST SLIDE THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT WE WANTED TO TIE BACK IN . I THINK THERE WAS A SUGGESTION OF KOA TIE BACK INTO THE CITY'S STRATEGIC VISION THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR AN ENDURING AND REMARKABLE COMMUNITY. AND SO WE PROVIDED QUESTION AS WELL AND HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WITH THAT AND SO THAT WAS REAL QUICK. BUT I WANTED TO BE MINDFUL AT THE TIME AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU ALL A COUPLE OF TIMES AND I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ARE ON THE HRA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY SO THIS IS THE PROBABLY THE FOURTH TIME YOU'VE HEARD THIS SO I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL THAT TIME BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL AS IS A MERE. THANK YOU MS. MANAGER SHANNON COUNCIL AND ACTUALLY I HAVE ONE AND I THINK EITHER YOU MANAGER OR I THINK MR. MALLICK THE COMMENT ON THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON THAT ABOUT HIGHER TAXES IS WOULD LEAD TO HIGHER TAXES IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT PREVAILING WAGE LAWS LEAD TO HIGHER TAXES OR INCREASED COST? I MEAN IS THERE ANY 1 TO 1 ON THAT? MAYOR MEMBERS, I, I READ THROUGH THOSE COMMENTS WELL AND MY GUESS IS THAT THE THE THE SORT THE MENTAL LEAP THAT PEOPLE WERE MAKING IS THE THEORY THAT PREVAILING WAGE RAISES PROJECT COSTS. AND IF WE'RE USING CITY FUNDS THEN THEN THEN IT WOULD COST MORE MONEY THE CITY TO TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT USE PREVAILING WAGE. I THINK THAT THAT WAS THE MENTAL JUMPS THAT WERE HAPPENING THERE. BUT I WASN'T I MEAN THAT WAS THE BEST I COULD COME UP WITH IN TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT I DID SEE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES WE KIND OF PUT THAT SORT OF IN THE CATEGORY OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH. SO THAT WAS THE THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE OF THOSE COMMENTS THERE WERE IT APPEARED A COUPLE TIMES. THANK YOU. COUNSEL, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING MORE? WELL, NO, JUST THE COUNCIL ON THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAD DONE. IT HASN'T BEEN IN THE BOARD THAT OUT IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SO. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON QUESTIONED. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST FIRST THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS MY UNDERSTANDING OF OUR APRIL 29TH MEETING IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I JUST HEARD. MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO TO THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS. THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED THAT EVENING AND THE FEEDBACK AND THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS WAS GOING TO COME BACK IN ANOTHER STUDY SESSION. I WENT BACK AND REVIEWED IT AND CANDIDLY SPECIFICALLY TO YOU THAT'S HOW YOU SUMMARIZE IT IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER STUDY SESSION TO GO THROUGH THAT INFORMATION. I HAD ASKED QUESTIONS AT THAT MEETING I STILL DON'T HAVE ANSWERS TO. I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE FEEDBACK FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT REVIEWED THIS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE AS I MISSED IT SOMEHOW. AND SO I JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT CHANGED BETWEEN APRIL 29TH. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PACKET OVER THE WEEKEND AND OBVIOUSLY AT THAT POINT IT WAS TOO TO KIND OF CHANGE WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN PUBLICLY NOTICED BUT MY EXPECTATION WAS WE'D HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION, A LOT MORE DATA. I THINK THERE WAS A REQUEST THAT WE ACTUALLY TRY TO FIND SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ISSUE TO HEAR FROM BEFORE THAT MEETING. AND SO I JUST I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO HOW WE'RE HERE NOW. I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMEMBER. I HONESTLY DON'T RECALL HAD BETWEEN HERE AND APRIL AGREE I DON'T RECALL BUT IF YOU HAVE MEMORY IF YOU REVIEWED THE THAT WAS WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT I SAID IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO WHEN WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS I'M I'M I'M LIKE I SAID I DON'T RECALL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH THAT THIS MATTER SHOWED ANY RECOLLECTION RECOLLECTION AND YOUR PERSON MAY REMEMBERS HAD WRITTEN DOWN AND WE HAD BEEN SCHEDULING FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW THAT WE'D BE COMING BACK DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. I KNOW THAT WE WERE LOOKING IN CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY BUT THAT ENDED UP GETTING QUITE FULL AND SO WE MOVED IT TO JUNE. WE DO HAVE TO THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE ALSO WENT THROUGH AND MADE THAT WE HAD RESPONSES AND I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY WITH REGARD TO SORT OF GETTING SOMEBODY TO SPEAK TO AGAINST PREVAILING WAGE. I THINK THAT WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING. WE'VE MADE THAT AVAILABLE. WE'VE ADVERTISED IT IN ALL THE TRADITIONAL WAYS AS WELL AS WITH LET'S TALK WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK THROUGH LET'S TALK THAT WAS A WIDE THAT REPRESENTED A VARIETY OF OPINIONS AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL THAT SAID OBVIOUSLY IF THE COUNCIL DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HOLDING THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT THEY COULD DO A VARIETY OF THINGS. THEY COULD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN THEY COULD DECIDE TO CONTINUE THE MATTER TO A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. BUT I'M ALSO PREPARED TO ANSWER SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED THE WAY WITH REGARD TO FEEDBACK FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THERE WASN'T A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION AT THE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE AT THE PORT AUTHORITY. THERE WAS DISCUSSION AT THE HRA ABOUT BEING IN FAVOR OF IT . THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED ABOUT HOW IT APPLIED TO PROJECTS AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE SOME DISCUSSION THERE AS WELL THAT THAT DISCUSSION WAS COVERED IN FINANCE AND COMMERCE WHICH PUBLISHED AN ABOUT THE DISCUSSION AND WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. WELL. WELL ONE OF THE THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNEW THERE WERE VERY SPECIFIC ATTEMPTS TO REACH OUT TO ALL SORT OF PERSPECTIVES. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE SENT AN EMAIL TO AMIR AND I BRAINSTORMED THE I THINK IT WAS FIVE FIVE OR SO 5 TO 8 OF THE VERY LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND WE SPECIFICALLY SENT AN EMAIL TO THEM MAKING THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON OPPORTUNITY AS WELL AND IT MADE THEM AWARE OF OF THE OPPORTUNITY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. SO WE DID EVERYTHING WE CAN TO IN OPINION TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND TO OFFER FEEDBACK. I WOULD SAY THAT THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING THROUGHOUT HAS BEEN RELATIVELY CONSISTENT. I CAN'T I CAN'T REALLY THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE TO SOLICIT ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK. WE DID DIRECT OUTREACH. WE DID THE TRADITIONAL AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION. WE DID LET'S TALK. SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON I DIDN'T RECALL THAT CONVERSATION ACCURATELY OBVIOUSLY. SO I RECALL THE QUESTIONS THAT THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU WERE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO. DO YOU HAVE THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR DETAILED ANSWERS TO? YEAH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT I RECALL ASKING ABOUT WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE SORT OF THE CONCEPTUAL COST FOR THE CITY WHICH WAS SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAD JUST TALKED ABOUT. BUT THE YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PROJECTS WOULD THIS APPLY TO? HOW MANY OF THOSE DOES IT ALREADY APPLY TO? I GUESS I'D ADD A QUESTION IN THERE DOES THAT CHANGE NOW DUE TO THE NEW STATE LAW AND BECAUSE I JUST YOU KNOW, I RECALL THAT THIS CAME UP BECAUSE OF CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY FOLKS ABOUT SUBCONTRACTOR ON A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. AND YOU I KNOW WE WORK TO ADDRESS THAT AND THEN THE COUNCIL SAID HEY, WE SHOULD LOOK AT THIS MORE AS A LARGER ISSUE THERE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE STATE IS ALSO THAT AND SO YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO GET REDUNDANT WITH THE STATE ON THOSE IS THAT ALREADY COVERED BY WHAT THE STATE SAID? AND SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ALSO DID ASK SOME THINGS AND FOLLOW UP. I TO THE CITY MANAGER JUST ABOUT YOU KNOW BASIC THINGS YOU KNOW PARK IMPROVEMENTS IF WE PUT UP NEW LIGHTING AND FENCING YOU KNOW IS THAT COVERED BY THIS MY UNDERSTANDING IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IS THAT TYPICAL THAT THOSE OF PROJECTS ARE THERE? AND I'D ALSO NOTE THAT IN TERMS THE COST DATA WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT LAST TIME THAT THERE'S A OF RESEARCH. WE HAVE RESEARCH FROM THE SUPPORTERS THAT SHOW THAT AND SOME 8% OF THE PEER REVIEWED STUDIES SHOW THAT THERE ANY COST INCREASE. BUT I ALSO GOT DIFFERENT INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF. WE RECEIVED WE APPROVED SOMETHING AT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS FOR A WELL SYSTEM AND I YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONLY ONE BIDDER SO I ASKED WOULD THEY HAVE BID IF THERE WAS A PREVAILING WAGE AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WOULD. THEY ARE THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT TYPE OF PROCESS. I SAID WOULD THERE BE ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS AND WHAT THE STAFF WORKING ON GETTING SAID IS IT WOULD BE A 5 TO 10% INCREASE. AND SO I HAVE CONFLICTING INFORMATION COMING FROM THE CITY. I'D ALSO NOTE THAT THE INFORMATION FROM THE SUPPORTERS IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE 29 DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND YOU JUST LOOK AT THE FIVE THAT ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALL BUT ONE OF THEM HAD SIGNIFICANT PRICE INCREASES IN THE STUDIES OVER 9% INCREASE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT MAY SIMPLY BE BECAUSE THEY'VE IDENTIFIED A LEGITIMATE ISSUE THAT THERE ARE COMPANIES THAT ARE UNDER BUILD UNDER BIDDING AND USING UNFAIR BUSINESS PRACTICES TO GET BUSINESS AND THAT'S BEING CAPTURED AND THAT MAY OR MAY LEGITIMATELY BE THE BUSINESS. BUT AGAIN, I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT DATA HERE FOR ME. SO THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WAS LOOKING INTO IN PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MR. FAROOQI ARE YOU LOOKING TO JOIN IN THE CONVERSATION WITH TONIGHT? I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON MUTE, MR. BOOGIE . MAYOR WELL WELL THE CITY MANAGER IS ADJUSTING HIS VOLUME. I CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS WE LOOKED INTO THE QUESTION. WE DID THE ANALYSIS. HOW MANY PROJECTS I BELIEVE THE THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON ASKED WAS HOW MANY PROJECTS WOULD THIS HAVE APPLIED TO LAST YEAR IN BLOOMINGTON? AND WE CALCULATED BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS AND RESEARCH WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NINE PROJECTS, NINE CITY PROJECTS AND THERE ARE ABOUT 5 TO 7 THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS ALREADY WORKING ON THAT WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE ALREADY QUALIFIED AND THEN 2 TO 3 AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS. TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE VALUE OF SOME IN SOME OF THE TYPES OF PROJECTS FROM 2023 OAK WOODLAND RESTORATION 291 TO $210000 A ROOF REPLACEMENT ABOUT 225,000 ANOTHER ROOF REPLACEMENT FOR AROUND 29 290,000 EACH FACT 415 A RESERVOIR REROOF $1.5 MILLION AND THAT JUST GIVES YOU A GENERAL SENSE WITH REGARD TO THE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE HAVE THAT WHERE THEY STRUGGLE TO GET BIDDERS. WE ARE DEFINITELY AWARE OF THAT AND WE'VE WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THOSE PROJECTS AND HAVE REACHED OUT TO OTHER CITIES TO SEE IF THEY'VE EXPERIENCED SIMILAR CHALLENGES AND I WILL WE HAVE NOT CRACKED THAT NUT SO TO SPEAK IT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE THE SAME EXPERIENCE THAT OTHER CITIES ARE HAVING BASED ON OUR OUTREACH. ONE QUESTION OR ONE COMMENT THAT WE DID RECEIVE THAT PERHAPS OUR PROJECTS ARE MORE UNIQUE OR PERHAPS THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL VENDOR OUTREACH AND THAT WE COULD MAYBE CONTACT THE VENDORS THAT ARE WORKING ON SIMILAR PROJECTS IN OTHER CITIES AND TRY AND GET THEM TO BID ON OURS AS WELL. I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE I THINK TWO, THREE, NINE OTHER CITIES MANY OF WHICH ARE THE METRO THAT HAVE PREVAILING WAGE AND SO THERE MUST BE CONTRACTORS ON YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECTS AREN'T THAT UNIQUE SO THERE MUST BE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING THAT ARE USING PUBLIC PREVAILING WAGE RATHER THAT ARE BEING FUNDED WITH PUBLIC FUNDS. SO WE HAVEN'T TOTALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT'S GOING ON UNIQUE TO BLOOMINGTON WITH REGARD TO THAT OTHER THAN TO SAY IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL VENDOR OUTREACH. WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT SORT OF HOW DOES THIS COMPARE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN PARTICULAR PROJECT COSTS AND WE HAVE A RATHER BIT OF A LABORATORY HAPPENING IN BROOKLYN PARK IN THAT THEY HAD PREVAILING ADOPTED A COUPLE IN MAY I BELIEVE THEY HAD A PROJECT WAS IN PHASE ONE OF THE BEFORE THE PREVAILING ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED AND THEN THEY HAVE PHASE TWO THAT'S COMING ONLINE. WE OFTEN HEAR THAT THAT IT WILL INCREASE COST 5 TO 10% TO HAVE PREVAILING WAGE. I WILL SAY THAT THE RESEARCH THAT AMIR HAS DONE AND A PARTICULAR PROJECT IN OUR PARTICULAR OF RESEARCH THAT WAS DONE IN KENTUCKY WHERE THEY COMPARED PREVAILING WAGE IN STATE FUNDED AND FEDERAL FUNDED AND THEN THEY TOOK AWAY PREVAILING WAGE ON THE STATE FUNDED PROJECTS AND THERE WAS NO COST SAVINGS. SO WHILE I DON'T WANT TO SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTORS EXPERIENCES ARE INCORRECT BY ANY MEANS THERE IS CONFLICTING RESEARCH ON THAT BASED ON OUR RESEARCH AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE THE GENERAL AND THE MERE JUMP IN AT ANY POINT HERE BUT THE GENERAL NOTION IS THAT WORK IS MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AND SO THERE IS COST SAVINGS THAT ARE WHEN YOU'RE PAYING QUALIFIED WEEK FOR PREVAILING WAGES. THERE IS A GENERAL SENSE OF THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE READ ABOUT IT. YOU ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THEY ALL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THE SCOPE OF PROJECTS PER SE AND HOW THIS WOULD APPLY. IT CERTAINLY WOULD APPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AS I MENTIONED, BUT THERE WOULD ALSO BE PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKING REC PROJECTS. IN OUR RESEARCH WITH STAFF WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE MAIN DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE DOING CONSTRUCTION WORK. THE DEFINITION OF CONSTRUCTION IS THE SAME AS STATE AS THE STATE DEFINITION IS THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE STATE DEFINITION WE IN PREPARING THE DRAFT ORDINANCE REACHED OUT TO MANY CITIES AND ATTEMPTED TO MIMIC THE DEFINITIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITIES THAT WERE WIDELY REGARDED AS AS DOING A OF HAVING A HIGHLY PERFORMING PROGRAM IN THEIR CITY. WE APPRECIATE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE CONSISTENCY ACROSS JURISDICTIONS SO THAT IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR CONTRACTORS AND SUBCONTRACTORS TO COMPLY. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT MANY COMMUNITIES USE AND WE WOULD LIKELY INTEND TO USE THAT SAME SOFTWARE SO THAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE WHICH TYPICALLY TENDS TO MINIMIZE COST. AND I, I WANT TO JUST DO A CHECK IN IF THE CITY MANAGER'S AUDIO IS ON NOW. MR. BRUYERE WE ENCOUNTER SEE IF I HAVE IT SOLVED. MR. MAYOR YOU DO INDEED WELL DONE IN NODDING HEADS. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE WHAT THE CITY HAD SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE TIMING AND INTENTION WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THAT BRING IT BACK AND CONDUCT THE PUBLIC IF THE COUNCIL IS NOT READY TO ACT OR STILL NEEDS MORE INFORMATION WE CAN RETURN AND ASK FOR ACTION AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. BUT WE YOU KNOW, WE DID TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S POINT PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TRYING TO GET ON THIS. AND UP UNTIL THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ACTUALLY WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF ENGAGEMENTS AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THAT BUT IT WASN'T FOR LACK OF TRYING. SO I THINK THAT WE DID REACH OUT TO THE PLACES WHERE FOLKS WERE WE GOT SOME PARTICIPATION LATE IN THE PROCESS AND I WOULD ECHO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON IN TERMS OF THE THE DIRECTION THAT WAS RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY AND I'M GOING BACK AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND APOLOGIZE IF YOU FELT THAT THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN IN THE PROCESS OR MAYOR I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS TO FILL OUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS IN THE PAST MEETING OR I CAN AND CONTINUE. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW ON THE PROCESS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO YEAH, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS I ALSO WANTED TO CONFIRM WHAT COUNCILMAN NELSON HAD MENTIONED AS WELL. I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER IN MY MY CHECK IN SESSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S AND I MEAN REGARDLESS OF MY MY PARTICULAR OPINION, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER WHEN IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO KIND OF DO THAT I DO THINK HAVE A YOU KNOW, A BIT OF A PROCESS PROBLEM HERE WITH HOW WE'VE GOT HERE TODAY IN TERMS OF THAT AND SO I DO THINK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU HAS HAS BROUGHT THAT FORWARD. YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS TOO. I'M TRYING TO MY HANDS ON THOSE AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WERE YOU KNOW, AS I RECALL, WE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE OF ONE MIND WHEN WE WE HAD LEFT THAT THAT LAST MEETING. SO I WAS QUITE SURPRISED TO SEE THIS. I JUST ASSUME THAT THAT THAT THAT DISCUSSION HAD OCCURRED TAKEN PLACE OVER THE PORT AND NOT THE HRA AND THAT SOMEHOW SOME HAD COME FROM FROM THAT WITH STAFF KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH. SO SO YEAH I MEAN IT JUST IT'S FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THIS SO BUT I MEAN WE ARE WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY SO. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, I'LL GO BACK TO YOU WITH THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD WERE WERE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL ONES THAT THIS MOTION HAS NOT ANSWERED OR ANYTHING THAT REALLY JUMPS THAT I JUST MIGHT HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP? I DIDN'T TOTALLY FOLLOW THAT THERE WERE ONLY NINE PROJECTS THAT THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR. I MEAN WE APPROVED TWO ROAD PROJECTS IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY 470,001.5 MILLION, BOTH OF WHICH THINK WOULD QUALIFY. SO THOSE WOULD BE TWO THINGS I WOULD THINK THE OTHER ONE THAT WE DID A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK WAS 800,000. SO JUST IN OUR LAST TWO AGENDAS I CAN THINK OF THREE YOU KNOW AND I WENT AND LOOKED JUST AT OUR CAP FOR THE YEAR 2025 AND TRUST ME IT'S A BIT SKEWED BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY DESIRE THE BLOOMINGTON FORWARD PROJECTS BUT I MEAN IT'S $250 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS AGAIN SKEWED THAT BECAUSE OF LARGE PROJECTS THERE SO JUST YOU KNOW I'M JUST TRYING TO RECONCILE I GUESS THE NEW QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS HOW DO I RECONCILE THAT THERE'S NINE IN THE ENTIRETY OF LAST YEAR AND THERE'S THREE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. MR. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MANY OF THE LARGE ROAD PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVE SOME LEVEL OF STATE OR FEDERAL DOLLARS INVOLVED. SO THEY'RE ALREADY INCLUDED PREVAILING BECAUSE OF THOSE SORTS OF THOSE FUNDS. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OR PROJECTS THAT ARE EXCLUSIVELY CITY FUNDED WHICH MIGHT EXPLAIN SOME OF THE DIFFERENCE THERE. COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS I GUESS I DON'T I'D ASK THE QUESTION I MEAN ARE WE ARE WE ARE WE PREPARED TO MOVE TO A TO A PUBLIC HEARING NOW? I AGREE. COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN THAT IT WASN'T A UNANIMOUS MIND WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAD A A CONSENSUS A MAJORITY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS ISSUE TO CONSIDER. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS OR IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A POSSIBILITY OF TRYING TO OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING, CONTINUE IT TO ANOTHER MEETING, TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AROUND THIS OR TO MOVE FORWARD AND SEE WHERE WE END UP. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY, MAYOR IS YOU KNOW GIVEN MY MY OWN YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WHERE I'M AT ON THIS BUT I DO THINK PROCESS IS IMPORTANT. WE'VE GOT FOLKS HERE SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE THAT THAT TESTIMONY TODAY BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE BE CAREFUL ABOUT OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL A TEAM HERE. YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. WE'RE ALL WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME THING. SO I WOULD YOU KNOW, I LOOK TO YOU MAYOR AND AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT PROCESS TO SEE IF IF WE CAN STILL MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT IF WE NEED TO IF YOU'VE GOT WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO TO MAKE THAT DECISION, MAYBE ANOTHER TIME. SO I WOULD YOU KNOW BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOUGH THAT THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAYBE NOT AGREE WITH MY PARTICULAR POINT OF VIEW THAT WERE UP HERE AND MAYBE HEARD SOMETHING DIFFERENT SO I DON'T WANT TO GO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT THANKS MAYOR I SEE NO NOT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. I MEAN PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR IT. IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED LET'S LET'S HAVE IT AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION MAY COME OUT OF THAT PROCESS AND IF PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION IF I'M COMFORTABLE THAT I HAVE THE INFORMATION, WE'LL GIVE OUR OPINION AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD OR WE WILL SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON EVERYTHING I HEARD FROM PEOPLE TONIGHT AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM BEFORE. SO I I TRYING TO I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GUM UP THE WHEELS OF PROGRESS HERE. I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED BY IT. THERE WERE SOME THINGS I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION NOW SO I'LL LISTEN EVERYBODY. IF I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION I'LL DO IT. BUT ALL MY COLLEAGUES WILL MAKE THE SAME DECISION. VERY GOOD. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I THOUGHT IT WAS BUT SORRY ARE THERE ANY PLANS IN THE EVENT THE THE THE PREVAILING IS GOES INTO EFFECT FOR ANY PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND THE 10% WAS MENTIONED WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE READ THAT IS KIND OF NORMAL FOR IT TO GO FROM TEN TIMES 15% OVER BUDGET ON SOME PROJECTS IN OTHER PLACES. DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS IF THAT EVER HAPPENS IN SEVERAL OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE PREVAILING WISH WOULD TAKE PLACE HAD THERE BEEN ANY CONTINGENCY PLANS IN REGARDS TO THAT AT THE MOMENT? YOU KNOW, JUST TO PREPARE FOR THE EVENT AS MANAGER SO. MAYOR MEMBERS JUST A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS ON THE PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY TO COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS HAS QUESTIONED THE PROJECTS ARE BID IN SO AT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SO THEY COME IN WITH THE COST ESTIMATES AND THEN THE DECISIONS ARE MADE ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN BE DONE FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS SET ASIDE TO DO THE WORK. GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH REGARD TO THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THOSE NINE PROJECTS THAT I MENTIONED WERE FROM 2023 AND THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS SO 5 TO 7 MORE PROJECTS. SO TO KAZMIR AND NELSON'S QUESTION ABOUT WHERE WERE THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT YOU KNOW SOMEWHERE BETWEEN YOU KNOW SOME AROUND A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF 20 PROJECTS FROM 2023. AND THEN WITH REGARD TO ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT TIFF, OUR DEFINITION IN THE ORDINANCE APPLIES INCLUDES TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND AT THE STATE IT DOES NOT INCLUDE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. SO JUST TO NOTE IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE MARCHING THROUGH THE ELEMENTS OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WE INDICATED THAT WE PUT EVERYTHING IN THAT DEFINITION AND DRAFTED IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF CERTAIN WORDS WANTED TO BE EXCISED THAT IT WOULD BE IS IT YOU KNOW, EASY TO DO THAT ON THE FLY IF THAT WAS THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE? SO THAT WAS ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT I WANTED TO ANSWER THAT WAS ASKED AT A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE DID RESEARCH ON. AND MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. JUST TO BE PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY WHEN WHEN WE PUT A PROJECT OUT TO BID WHETHER PUBLIC WORKS OR A FACILITIES PROJECT WE, HAVE AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE OR AN ARCHITECT OR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ESTIMATE THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE MARKET COST OF MATERIALS AND LABOR COSTS AND HOW THAT ALL FACTORS INTO AN ANTICIPATED COST AND IT'S LIKE THE CITY SAID ONLY WHEN WE GET THE RESULTS FROM BIDS THAT WE SEE HOW THOSE PROPOSALS COME IN COMPARED TO ESTIMATES THAT WE WOULD THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD IN ITS CURRENT STATE OR IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. SO IT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE THE CURRENT MARKET ENVIRONMENT BOTH ON LABOR AND MATERIALS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PUT OUT AN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TO AN EXTENT. I MEAN WHAT I'M LOOKING IS A MORE CONCRETE RESPONSE ON WHETHER LET'S SAY WE I'LL GIVE YOU THE CENTER THE PROJECT ABOUT $105 MILLION INCLUDED IN THE $5 MILLION TO THE STATE HAS GIVEN THE CITY RIGHT. THAT'S THE BUDGET BECAUSE OF THE PREVAILING WAGE. IF IT GOES UP 10% THERE WILL BE $100,000 MORE OR YOU KNOW, A $1,000,000 MORE. SO HOW IS THE CITY PREPARED TO COME UP WITH THAT EXTRA MILLION DOLLARS IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WERE IT WENT WITH THE PREVAILING WAGE AND THAT 10% DOES INCREASE. WE WILL GO BACK AGAIN AND INCREASE THE TAX SOMEWHERE TO BRING THE FUNDS INTO THE INTO THE COFFERS TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT OR HOW WOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED? WELL, I I'D GO AHEAD. MR. FREIBERG MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REMIND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS OF IT IS INFORMATION WE RECEIVED IN THE COUPLE OF PRESENTATIONS PREVIOUSLY THAT MOST OF THE FIRMS WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE PROPOSERS ON A PROJECT LIKE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER OR ANY OF OUR LARGE PROJECTS ARE WELL-ESTABLISHED CONSTRUCTION OR CONTRACT FIRMS ARE ALREADY PAYING COMPETITIVE WAGES WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THE ISSUE WHERE THERE ARE WAGE CONCERNS TENDS TO BE IN SUBS AND SUBCONTRACTORS AND YOU KNOW WHERE THEY GET SOME OF THEIR LABOR FROM. SO I AM NOT OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PIPELINE OR IN THE CITY BEING OVERLY AFFECTED BY PREVAILING WAGE BECAUSE. MOST OF THOSE ARE BASED ON THE HISTORY OF WHO WAS PROPOSED AND WON BIDS OR FIRMS ARE ALREADY COMPETITIVE IN THE IN THE MARKETPLACE ON WAGE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON ARE THOSE PROJECTS WHERE YOU SEE SMALLER SUBS WORKING FOR VARIOUS CONTRACTORS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING APPROPRIATELY COMPENSATED. AND I GUESS I WOULD ANSWER THAT COUNCILMEMBER REVISIT ON ANY OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IF GO UP ON ANYTHING WE HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WHETHER IT'S THE LABOR OR THE OF STEEL OR THE COST OF CONCRETE. THERE ARE ESTIMATES ARE MADE BUT IF THE COST IS HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED THEN DECISIONS HAVE TO BE WHETHER IT'S SKINNING DOWN THE PROJECT OR VALUE ENGINEERING IN SOME WAY OR JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT PATH FORWARD BE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER SAT HERE AND ABOUT A PROJECT AND SAY AND SAID, YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WELL WHAT DO WE DO IF IF THE COST OF STEEL GOES UP X AMOUNT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT? ALL WE DO IS KIND OF RELY ON THE PROJECT AND THE AND THE PROCESS TO PLAY ITSELF OUT AND TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. I I JUST HAD A QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE MORE CLARIFICATION FOR PUBLIC BECAUSE IT WILL INCREASE THE COSTS OF ANY PROJECT THAT WE HAVE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT IF YOU IF YOU READ ANY OF THE INFORMATION PUBLICLY MADE BY OTHER CITIES OR OTHER STATES AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THAT I'M NOT AGAINST THE IDEA OF PAYING THE PROPER WAGES TO DO THE WORKERS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO LEARN WHAT THE CITY IS PREPARED TO DO IN THOSE EVENT BUT YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M AGAINST THE FACT THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA PAY THE PROPER WAGES TO EVERYBODY THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GET INTO A DISCUSSION. LET'S ASK OUR QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET INTO OUR DISCUSSION AFTER WE'VE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT COUNCILMEMBER DELLA SANDRA I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND THEN I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS BUT I'LL HOLD ONE QUESTION. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE RATES ARE PUBLISHED THAT THESE ARE PUBLISHED. RIGHT. I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW THIS IS HOW OUR RATES SET. I'M LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENT LABORS LIKE MINNESOTA PARTNER LABORS. OKAY. EVERY SINGLE THAT GETS BID TO US GOING FORWARD WITH THIS IN EFFECT FOR ONLY PROJECTS NOT THE ONES FOR WHICH WE USE STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING. I'M GOING TO ASSUME AND YOU TELL ME IF I'M CORRECT ON THIS THAT WE ARE WE ARE BUDGETING IN CITY FOR THOSE WITH THIS PREVAILING WAGE LIKE WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE ADJUSTED OUR RECIPE FOR EXAMPLE TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL COST THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO INFLATION THE SAME WAY WE DO MATERIALS WE'RE WATCHING THOSE NUMBERS ALL THE TIME. RIGHT. WE DID THIS IF I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THIS IS PROBABLY MY TIME WE WOULD HAVE SAID OH LOOK AT THAT. YOU KNOW, PASSED $15 AN HOUR. I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START DOING $15 AN HOUR. I MEAN THIS IS KIND OF NORMAL FOR US, CORRECT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND AND IF IF MR. SCHULER COMMISSIONER WANTS TO COME UP WHATEVER I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S PEOPLE IN FINANCE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION THAT ARE FOLLOWING THESE KINDS OF TRENDS IN ALL AREAS OF OUR BIDDING PROCESS AND ARE BUDGETING FOR US IN ADVANCE BRINGING TO US OUR RECIPE AND BRINGING TO US OUR ANNUAL BUDGET. WITH THESE CONSIDERATIONS IN MIND ALREADY. AM I CORRECT ON THAT OR DO I I MIGHT CATCH ME OFF GUARD AND GO IN ? WELL THAT'S MY EXPECTATION AND YOU'RE NOT DOING IT. THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM BUT I'M GUESSING YOU'RE DOING THAT SO IF I COULD JUST GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT THAT'D BE GREAT. YES YES YES. YOU DON'T GET 52 STRAIGHT YEARS OF JEFF. OKAY. THIS IS MIKE. THIS IS KIND OF MY POINT. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY THAT I KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY LIKE AN A COMMENT DISGUISED AS A QUESTION BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FINANCE TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES ON THIS REGARD. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE NOW AND WE'RE ALSO GOING THROUGH THE CIP CYCLE WE WILL ENHANCE THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HELP US BUT THAT'S THE HAPPY TOGETHER THAT IT IN THE NEXT ONE AND THAT YOU WILL SEE THIS FALL. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER ONE A QUESTION JUST JUST A QUESTION. SO IT WAS INTERESTING WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER HERE ABOUT THE COST PERSPECTIVE BUT HAVE THERE ANY STUDIES AT ALL IN TERMS OF QUALITY AS IT RELATES TO IF YOU HAVE FOLKS YOU KNOW, AT THIS PARTICULAR LEVEL OF QUALITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE TAXPAYER SAVES OVER THE LONG TERM WITH RESPECT TO HAVING THAT QUALITY OF WORK THAT'S DONE AT THIS PREVAILING WAGE? MR. ANDERSON YOU MAY REMEMBER I I'VE READ SOME THINGS ABOUT THAT AND AMIR HAS BRIEFED ME ON THAT. I SUSPECT THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT COULD PROBABLY TALK TO THAT TOPIC MORE SPECIFICALLY. ALL RIGHT. I CAN I CAN WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT I WOULD YOU KNOW, I'D TURN IT BACK TO STAFF. WE GET THAT IN THE PUBLIC HERE AND IT SOUNDS TO ME, COUNSEL, LIKE IT'S TIME TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO WHY DON'T WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW? I WON'T OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IT. AND 4.2 THIS IS OUR PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING OUR PREVAILING WAGE. I'M SURE WE GOT A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE WITH IT WISHING TO SPEAK. I JUST WANT TO HAVE YOU DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. MAKE SURE WE DO A COUPLE OF THINGS AS YOU COME FORWARD. WE DO HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET YOU CAN SIGN IN AFTER YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING AND KIND OF HAND IT TO THE NEXT PERSON IF YOU WANT JUST TO SIMPLIFY THINGS AND MOVE THINGS ALONG. BUT PLEASE AS YOU COME FORWARD IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD WE NEED TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR NAME AND SO ON AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE A LITTLE PLAQUE ON THE WALL THAT'S OUR SHOT CLOCK AND A 5 MINUTES I WILL CUT YOU OFF NOT BECAUSE I'M MEAN BUT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK AND WE DON'T LET WE LET ONE PERSON SPEAK FOR 10 MINUTES AND CUT SOMEBODY OFF IN 3 MINUTES. SO 5 MINUTES IS WHAT WHAT YOU WILL HAVE AND WE WILL WE WILL KEEP TRACK OF THAT CLOSELY. SO WITH THAT THE PUBLIC IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING? OKAY. I DON'T WHAT IT MEANS THAT THE THUNDER RUMBLED AS YOU HAVE SAID. YEAH YOU READ IT. IT'S OMINOUS. I'VE NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN BEFORE. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER IS MY NAME IS JAKE SCHWEITZER. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NORTH STAR POLICY. WE'RE A THINK TANK THAT PROMOTES DATA DRIVEN SOLUTIONS TO HELP MINNESOTANS THRIVE. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO PROTECT WORKERS IN BLOOMINGTON IN NOVEMBER. NORTH STAR POLICY ACTION RELEASED OUR REPORT CALLED ABUSE AND THIS REPORT NAMED CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH OR FACE ALLEGATIONS OF EXPLOITATION ACCORDING TO INTERVIEWS WITH WORKERS AND INDUSTRY EXPERTS, WE IDENTIFIED HOUSING THAT HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS AND TAX FINANCING AND EMPLOYED THE PROBLEM CONTRACTORS THAT WE NAMED AND IN TOTAL WE FOUND OVER $84 MILLION IN TIFF OR TECH SUBSIDIES HAVE GONE TO PROJECTS EMPLOYING CONTRACTORS WITH PROVEN OR ALLEGED LABOR VIOLATIONS. AND THAT'S WHY THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS SO IMPORTANT PREVAILING WAGE POLICIES INCREASE PAYROLL TRANSPARENCY WHICH REDUCES THE RISK OF MISCLASSIFICATION ON A PROJECT THE CERTIFIED PAYROLL PROCESS MINIMIZES THE RELIANCE ON INFORMAL RELATIONSHIPS AND OFF THE BOOK PAYMENTS ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE. IT ENCOURAGES ACCURATE DATA AND SUFFICIENT EMPLOYER MONITORING OF A JOBSITE WHICH PREVENTS THE TYPES OF CRIMES THAT WE FOUND IN OUR REPORT AND THE DATA ON THE COST QUESTION IS VERY CLEAR RESEARCH OVERWHELMINGLY SHOWS THAT PREVAILING WAGE POLICIES HAVE LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON CONSTRUCTION COSTS 18 OF 24 PEER REVIEWED STUDIES CONDUCTED BETWEEN THOUSAND AND 2022 FOUND THAT PREVAILING WAGE LAWS NO STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE COST OF PUBLIC PROJECTS. SO AGAIN THIS ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IT PROTECT WORKERS. IT WILL PROTECT CONTRACTORS WHO ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND PLAYING BY THE RULES AND JUST TRYING TO COMPETE ON A FAIR PLAYING FIELD AND IT WILL PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF PUBLIC FUNDS IN BLOOMINGTON. SO THANK FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS REALLY IMPORTANT ORDINANCE TONIGHT AND. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. YOU CAN BE SURE TO IN THERE AND APPRECIATE THAT OTHERS GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MY NAME IS CHELSEA GLOBE. IT'S GARVEY AND I'M THE PRESIDENT AT THE MINNEAPOLIS LABOR FEDERATION OF THE AFL-CIO AND WE REPRESENT UNION MEMBERS AND WORKERS THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND THE ENTIRE WESTERN. THERE ARE OVER 4000 UNION MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS A REAL TESTAMENT TO HOW YOU HAVE GROWN AS A STATEWIDE ECONOMIC HUB FOR THE REGION AND, FOR THE STATE. THE THING THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REALLY COMMON STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR A CITY OF YOUR STATURE AND YOUR SIZE AND IS REPLICATING REPLICATING WHAT CITIES AND SCHOOL BOARDS AND COUNTIES ARE DOING ALL ACROSS THIS AREA AND IT'S GOING IN STEP WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL. WE'RE SEEING INCREASED PREVAILING ENFORCEMENT AND COOPERATION AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE'RE SEEING IT HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL AS YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT ALREADY ABOUT THE TOUGH AND NOW WE'RE SEEING IT HAPPEN AT THE LOCAL LEVEL TOO AND ALL OF THESE THINGS MOVING IN MOTION TOGETHER HELPS MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS AN EFFECTIVE THAT IS ENFORCED CORRECTLY AND JUST LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY FROM YOUR HENNEPIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND FROM YOU FROM DAIS, THIS CITY IS AT A CRITICAL MOMENT WHERE TIMING IS KIND OF EVERYTHING ALL OF THIS STUFF IS ROLLING ON AT THE SAME TIME TOGETHER AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR FOLKS WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY TO ABLEO COMPLY WITH THE WHOLE THE WHOLE NETWORK THAT WE'RE SETTING UP HERE A NETWORK THAT'S GOING TO BE BETTER FOR YOUR CITY AND A NETWORK THAT'S BETTER FOR WORKERS. AND THEN JUST A FINAL THING I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE STAFF WHO ARE REALLY TAKING THE ATTENTION PAYING LOT OF ATTENTION TO ENFORCEMENT. SO PASSING THE ORDINANCE IS ONE THING BUT NOW YOU'RE PART OF A NETWORK OF FOLKS WHO ARE WORKING THIS TOGETHER INCLUDING PARTNERS BOTH IN THE PRIVATE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WHO ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THIS. SO THE ORDINANCE IS GREAT. WE APPLAUD IT AND HAPPY THAT THIS MOMENT IS HAPPENING BUT. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE TOO. SO THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND TO EVERYONE ELSE. THANK YOU. NEXT GREETING WELCOME. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME COMMENT ON THIS PROPOSED. MY NAME IS JOHN BASH. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS OF MINNESOTA ABC. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR AS A TRADE ASSOCIATION UP OF 340 COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL CONTRACTORS AND THERE OVER 20,000 EMPYEES MANY OF WHOM HAVE EITHER WORKED ON PROJECTS IN BLOOMINGTON OR OUR OFFICE IN THE IN THE CITY HERE THESE MEN AND WOMEN ARE PART OF THE 75% OF WORKERS IN THE MINNESOTA CONSTRUCTION THAT CHOOSE TO BE PART OF THE MERIT SHOP CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. OUR MEMBERS OPPOSE VIOLENCE, CAUSE AND INTIMIDATION AND THE DENIAL OF THE RIGHTS OF BOTH EMPLOYEES AND MANAGEMENT. AND WE BELIEVE THAT WORK OPPORTUNITIES BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF LABOR AFFILIATION. ABC ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS IS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSAL IS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING FOR PROJECTS THAT RECEIVE CITY FUNDS BY IMPOSING ARTIFICIALLY DETERMINED WAGE RATE RATHER THAN A MARKET BASED WAGE RATE. WE ARE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL LIMIT COMPETITION, INCREASE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND RESULT IN OVERALL HIGHER PROJECT COSTS. IT IS OUR MEMBERS EXPERIENCE THAT ON AVERAGE PREVAILING WAGE MANDATES DO INCREASE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 15%. AND OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM CONTRACTORS DEVELOPERS ALIKE REGARDING A SIMILAR PROPOSAL THAT WAS UP FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED PREVAILING WAGE AND ALL TIF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT WE HEARD ASIDE FROM THE INCREASED CONSTRUCTION COSTS IS THAT SUCH A MANDATE WOULD CREATE DISINCENTIVE FOR DEVELOPERS TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES. IN FACT THE ROCHESTER CITY COUNCIL RECENTLY VOTED TO REMOVE ITS PREVAILING WAGE REQUIREMENT ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT RECEIVE TURF TO INCENTIVIZE MORE DEVELOPMENT AT A MORE AFFORDABLE PRICE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL DRIVE UP THE COST OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS, REDUCE COMPETITION WITH NO CORRELATING INCREASE IN QUALITY KNOW FINALLY JUST THROW OUT OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PREVAILING WAGE ISSUES THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW, IT'S OFTEN WE OFTEN HEAR A NARRATIVE THAT LACK OF PREVAILING WAGE MEANS LOWER LABOR STANDARDS OR LOW ROAD CONTRACTORS OR LOWER QUALITY WORK. AND YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS MAY OR MAY NOT SURFACE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT THAT SENTIMENT REALLY IS INSULTING OUR MEMBERS WHO, YOU KNOW, DO DO GREAT WORK IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES WHO CHOOSE TO WORK FOR THEM, PERFORM QUALITY, WORK ON BUDGET AND ON TIME REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PREVAILING IS PAID. SO I JUST WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE KEEP THAT THAT SENTIMENT MIND. IN CONCLUSION, RATHER THAN ENACTING POLICIES THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR HIGH QUALITY CONTRACTORS TO COMPETE, WE DO THINK IT PRUDENT TO ENCOURAGE FAIR AND OPEN COMPETITION IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A NO VOTE ON THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I DO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHERS TONIGHT TONIGHT. WELCOME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 1/2 HERE . THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ADAM HANTZ AND I'M ALSO WITH THE ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS OF MINUTES OF NORTH DAKOTA. AGREE AND APPRECIATE WHAT MR. BUSHEY SAID BUT I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR STAFF AS WELL AS MEMBERS THE AUDIENCE TO HEAR. I'D LIKE TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON ACTUALLY A DARKER SIDE THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY THAT MOST ARE UNAWARE OF AND THE SPECIAL GROUP PUSHING THIS ORDINANCE. THE BUILDING TRADES UNIONS NATIONWIDE AND IN MINNESOTA HAVE BEEN LOSING MARKET SHARE YEAR YEAR BOTH HERE AND NATIONWIDE AS THEIR MEMBERSHIP DECREASES COMPARED TO THE MARRIAGE SHOP SIDE OF THE INDUSTRY. THAT'S LEFT MANY UNIONS AND MEMBERS LESS COMPETITIVE STRUGGLING TO WIN WORK AND FIELD CREWS TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS IN AND AROUND MINNESOTA. THIS HAS LED UNION ORGANIZERS AND THEIR LEADERS AND THEIR MEMBERS TO ENGAGE ORGANIZING TACTICS THAT ARE QUESTIONABLE AND SOMETIMES EVEN EGREGIOUS. I WAS GLAD TO SEE DAN MCCONNELL FROM THE MINNESOTA BUILDING TRADES HERE EARLIER BUT I THINK HE JUST LEFT. WE ALSO HAVE TONY WICCAN LEADER OF YOU KNOW I WANT TO PLAY YOU A LEADERS HERE. THEY OVERSEE SEVERAL UNIONS THROUGHOUT MINNESOTA. NOW RECENTLY DAN AND LED A GROUP OF ABOUT THREE DOZEN UNION MEMBERS ORGANIZERS, ACTIVISTS AND AGENTS ONTO A LOCAL NONUNION CONSTRUCTION SITE. NOW WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAD PLANNED ON DOING THERE. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THEY SHOWED UP A 19 YEAR OLD YOUNG WOMAN WAS WORKING ON THE SITE THAT DAY. IT ME I HAVE TO ASK I MEAN THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS REGARDING TO THE PREVAILING WAGE OR INCORRECT CONSIDERING TONIGHT AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THIS IS RELEVANT TO THAT. THIS IS THIS IS AS A RESULT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON THAT THESE MEMBERS ARE THESE UNION MEMBERS ARE TRYING TO PUT PREVAILING WAGE ON AND THEY'RE SUPPORTING THESE TYPE OF ORDINANCES OVER TRYING TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THESE AND I GET THAT. BUT I MEAN I'M NOT SURE HOW ON TO A CONSTRUCTION SITE HAS TO DO WITH THE PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. YEAH, WELL IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKELY GOING TO BE MAYBE COMPLIANCE OFFICERS UNDER THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE CITY ORDINANCE ALLOWS THE CITY TO DESIGNATE AND DELEGATE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY TO THESE POTENTIAL SPECIAL INTERESTS AS MANDATED MAYOR MEMBERS ARE OFFICER I BELIEVE IS IN THE ORDINANCE AND IT'S A MERE RIGHT. YES. AND PLEASE CONTINUE. BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO SEE I'D LIKE TO SEE A BIT FINER POINT ON YOUR COMMENTS. SURE. PLEASE. WELL, IT I WAS GETTING TO THIS YOUNG WOMAN WAS WORKING ON A CONSTRUCTION SITE UNION ORGANIZERS PEOPLE PUSHING THIS PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE WHO TALK ABOUT WORKER EXPLOITATION . THEY TALK ABOUT HIGH ROAD CONTRACTORS AND MAKING SURE WORKERS AREN'T EXPLOITED. THIS YOUNG WOMAN WAS BASICALLY FORCED TO FLEE INTO A JOB SAY TRAILER BECAUSE THEY WERE BLOCKING THE EXIT GATE WITH THEIR SUVS. AND WE GOT THIS ALL ON VIDEO. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE VIDEO WITH THE COMMITTEE TODAY WITH THE COUNCIL TODAY. IF THEY'D LIKE TO OF THE MAN STOOD IN FRONT OF THE DOOR IN FRONT OF THE JOB SAY TRAILER WITH FEET ON THE GUARDRAIL SO SHE COULDN'T LEAVE. ONE WAS WEARING A LA UNION STICKER ON HIS HAT. THE OTHER WAS WEARING A ROOFERS UNION T-SHIRT. THIS IS FRIGHTENING STUFF. THEY WERE LAUGHING AT HER IF SHE HAD TO ESCAPE OUT A WINDOW JUMPED OUT. I'VE GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF. I CAN PLAY PART OF IT ONCE AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS APPLIES TO OUR OUR ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU GET COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT SEEING HOW THIS APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO THE ORDINANCE WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT I MEAN I APPRECIATE IT'S A TOPIC WORTH TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO AND IT'S SOME OF THE SHOCKING TACTICS THAT MEMBERS IN THIS ROOM NOW ARE ENGAGED IN THAT ARE PUSHING THIS ORDINANCE. AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU, MR. MAYOR, TO KNOW WHO IS PUSHING THIS ORDINANCE. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE ARE WHAT AND I BUT WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS IF AND HOW ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING AFFECTS THE ORDINANCE WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE AUDIENCE DIRECTLY. IT JUST ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. WE'VE HEARD QUESTIONS FROM JUST ABOUT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER ASKING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY PROJECTS. WHAT GOES ON ON THESE PROJECTS HEARD TESTIMONY EARLIER ABOUT QUALITY OF PROJECTS, WHAT GOES ON IN THESE JOBS. THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN JOB SITES. THE EGREGIOUS ORGANIZING TACTICS TRAPPING WOMEN IN CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS THAT SHE CAPTURED ON HER CELL PHONE RIGHT HERE COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. SO THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU. IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THE CITY ATTORNEY IF WE PASS THIS ORDINANCE, WOULD THAT PROHIBIT CONTRACTORS TO EMPLOY PEOPLE FROM APPLYING FOR THE JOBS AS . MAYOR MEMBERS ARE ORDINANCE DOES NOT DISCUSS OR REQUIRE UNION AND WITH REGARD TO WHO THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER WOULD BE IT'S WHOMEVER THE CITY MANAGER YOU KNOW DESIGNATES AND IT'S NOT AN OUTSIDE ENTITY AS WE'RE CURRENTLY ENVISIONING ALL OF THE SORT OF FINANCIAL COSTS AND IMPLEMENTATION HAVE ALL BEEN UNDER THE UNDER THE WORKING IDEA THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION WOULD BE DONE BY THE CITY'S COMPLIANCE OFFICER. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS SO I GUESS TO SAY IT AGAIN PREVAILING WAGE IS A PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE IS NOT ABOUT UNION VERSUS NONUNION AND I AGREE WITH THAT . YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IF I MAY I GUESS I GET THE POINT OF THE GENTLEMAN'S FIGURE RIGHT NOW WE WERE ASKING FOR SOMEBODY OPPOSED THE PREVAILING WAGE ORDINANCE. SO CAN WE ALLOW HIM TO FINISH WHAT HE HAS TO SAY AND PERHAPS A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AGAINST THE ORDINANCE? GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES SO AND SO I WE WILL BE WITH THE MAYORS I THINK TO HEAR ABOUT PREVAILING WAGE OF OPPOSITION. BUT HE'S TRYING TO MAKE IT THAT HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A POINT THOUGH AND HE'S OPPOSING THE ORDINANCE AND HE'S TRYING TO MAKE POINT PERHAPS IT'S NOT THE BEST OR WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING HIM TO SAY BUT IS OPPOSING THE ORDINANCE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE WANT TO HEAR BOTH SIDES IT AND WHICH IS WHAT I HEARD ON STAGE AND WHAT WE HEARD COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS FROM THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS JUST A A A TESTIMONY AGAINST ORGANIZED LABOR IN GENERAL WHICH I DON'T THINK IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE BECAUSE AS COUNCILMEMBER JUST SAID, PREVAILING WAGE IS NOT A UNION NONUNION ISSUE. THAT'S IT. RIGHT? TO AN EXTENT IS SUPPORTING THE ORDINANCE STILL I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A FEW MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED THE ORDINANCE WHICH IS THERE MAY WELL BE IN FAVOR OF IT. I HEAR YOUR POINT BUT THE SAME TIME PERHAPS IF YOU HAD TO USE ANOTHER WAY TO YOU KNOW, INFORMING US WHY YOU OPPOSED THE ORDINANCE YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER BUT TO ME IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF IT AND AT LEAST RIGHT NOW HE MIGHT NOT BE SEEING IT THE WAY WE'RE EXPECTING HIM TO SAY IT BUT HE'S TRYING TO GET TO A POINT AND WHY DON'T WE ALLOW HIM TO FINISH HIS 5 MINUTES AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PERSON? BUT I LIKE TO BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY HERE. I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS ANOTHER SIDE TO THE STORY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. COUNCILMEMBER WE DON'T DO THAT. NO, IT'S NOT JUST SO LET ME ASK THE SPEAKER IF YOU CAN IF YOU CAN PUT A BUTTON ON YOUR COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY AS THEY RELATE TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. WELL, IT'S ONE I THINK MR. BASS, YOU DID A GOOD JOB SUMMARIZING SOME HE DID POINT ON WAGE BUT I WAS SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE AS SEVERAL EARLIER TESTIFIERS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OF FOLKS WHO DON'T PAY PREVAILING WAGE. ONE PREVAILING WAGE ISN'T ENACTED. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE QUALITY INSTRUCTION? AND SO YOU KNOW, THEY CAN TALK ABOUT ONE SIDE OF THE INDUSTRY WHY CAN'T I BE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER SEGMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY RIGHT HERE IN THE TWIN CITIES POTENTIALLY RIGHT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON MOVING FORWARD HAVE A 42ND VIDEO JUST SHOWING I HAVE I HAVE NO INTENTION OF HAVING THAT FORUM VIDEO PLAYED DURING OUR COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR JUST ABOUT ABC SINCE WE HAD TWO PEOPLE COME UP FROM THAT ORGANIZATION AND THERE IS A PROVISION WITHIN THE PREVAILING WAGE REGARDING AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE ONE AS DO SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS FROM THE UNIONS. DOES YOURS MEET THE DEFINITION IN OUR CODE WOULD GEORGE QUALIFY AS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YES THERE ARE CONTRACTORS ENROLLED IN THAT THEY WOULD QUALIFY BUT A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTORS AREN'T IN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS BECAUSE IT IT'S NOT SUITED FOR THE TYPE OF WORK THAT THEY DO. OFTENTIMES OUR MEMBERS EMPLOY MULTI SKILLED CRAFT MEANING THEY CAN PERFORM MULTIPLE JOB CLASSIFICATIONS. THEY'RE NOT PIGEONHOLED INTO ONE SPECIFIC TASK OR TRADE. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO BE A CARPENTER. THEY CAN DO LABORERS WORK, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME IRON WORK AS WELL. BUT PREVAILING WAGE AND ESPECIALLY REGISTERED PROGRAMS THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. YOU CAN'T BE A REGISTERED CARPENTER OR APPRENTICE AND ALSO BE A REGISTERED LABORERS APPRENTICE AT THE SAME TIME AND SO THERE'S THERE'S DISCRETE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT MAKE IT VERY FOR MERIT SHOPS TO BE REGISTERED APPRENTICES SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PAY LESS THAN PREVAILING WAGE WHICH WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING WAGES THIS SPECIFIC ORDINANCE ALLOWS YOU TO LOWER WAGES TO APPRENTICES SO THEY DON'T EARN THAT FAMILY SUSTAINING WAGE THAT WE HEAR PREVAILING WAGE TALKED ABOUT THEY'RE SOMETIMES GETTING PAID HALF OF WHAT PREVAILING WAGES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PRESENTER IF WE COULD PLEASE AND I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY HERE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I THERE'S A COPY OF IT ON THE BACK TABLE. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE THIS EVENING IS THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR. PUBLIC HEARING OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON GOOD MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL MY NAME IS TIM WATKINS. I'M AN EDUCATION AND POLICY COORDINATOR COORDINATOR WITH THE FAIR CONTRACTING FOUNDATION BELIEVE WE MET BACK APRIL. WE CHATTED A LOT ABOUT RESEARCH AND KIND OF HOW THAT IS CONDUCTED AT THAT TIME I WOULD JUST ASK FOR THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT COST. DID YOU LOOK OVER THE LIST OF STUDIES THAT I GAVE YOU AT THAT TIME THAT SHOWED THE 24 THAT GIVE THE RANGE FROM ZERO UP TO I BELIEVE ABOUT 13%? AND I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS WHAT IS THE RESEARCH YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT ISN'T ON THAT LIST THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THE SAME PEER REVIEW PROCESS? AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RESEARCH, WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE DEALING ON THE SAME PLAYING FIELD NOT JUST ONE PROJECT THAT SOME CITY STAFF ESTIMATED WOULD RAISE COSTS 5 TO 10%. SO ONE MORE NOTE ON THAT AND TO THE NOTE ON APPRENTICESHIP I WOULD JUST ASK DOES ON THE COUNCIL KNOW APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY APPRENTICES THERE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION PROGRAMS IN ANY GIVEN TIME IN MINNESOTA AT ANY GIVEN TIME ROUGHLY 10,000 IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YEAR OVER YEAR BETWEEN 9500 TO 11000 YOU KNOW DEPENDING OBVIOUSLY IT'S A CYCLICAL INDUSTRY. THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THERE . ABC DOES HAVE APPRENTICESHIP SYSTEM IT'S CALLED THE CONSTRUCTION EDUCATION FOUNDATION. IN 2022 THEY HAD EXACTLY 70 APPRENTICES ENROLLED OUT OF AN AVERAGE OF 10,000.7%. THEY DON'T PROVIDE MEANINGFUL TRAINING. THEY CAN SAY THAT IT'S BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE MULTI CRAFT AND EXCUSE ME THEN I'M SORRY. YEP. WE'RE NOT DOING THIS. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO APOLOGIES BUT JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT IS WHY THEY SAY THEY CAN'T THE APPRENTICESHIP STANDARDS SO ARE YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC REGARDING THE ORDINANCE THAT WE DISCUSSED AND AGAIN THAT WAS WHEN I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK AGAIN TO THE COST QUESTION THAT AGAIN WE PROVIDED YOU THAT THAT RESEARCH I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THE BREADTH OF STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING COST IF YOU WOULD LIKE OTHER STUDIES THAT HAVE LOOKED AT BID COMPETITION AND LIKE THAT WHICH AGAIN THE RESEARCH HAS CONSISTENTLY FOUND DOES NOT IS NOT IMPACTED BY PREVAILING WAGE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF BIDDERS. YOU'RE NOT GOING RAISE YOUR COSTS AGAIN. YOU'RE JUST ENSURING THAT YOU'RE GETTING RESPONSIBLE CONTRACTORS BIDDING ON YOUR PROJECTS. SO JUST AGAIN MAKE SURE TO CHECK THE SOURCES THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FROM WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THESE THINGS. AND AGAIN WE'VE PROVIDED A LOT AND ARE HAPPY TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT ONE QUICK QUESTION IS THIS SHEET THAT YOU'RE YES, SIR. THAT'S THE ONE YES. IT'S THE ONE THAT I USED WHEN I LOOKED AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOWING 9% INCREASE. THAT WAS ONE ONE OF THEM IN THE MIX OF ALL OF THEM. YES. THAT WAS ALL FIVE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S THE AVERAGE OF THE FIVE. THERE WAS ONLY ONE THAT WAS AT ZERO. ALL OF THE REST OF THEM ARE JUST FOR IPADOS OR FOR STUDIES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THERE'S THE 2022 ONE THAT SAID IT WAS 3% I BELIEVE 2022 IS SAYS NO EFFECT 2017 AND 5% 2017 16% AND 2025 FOR 11%. OKAY I ADDED THOSE UP DIVIDED BY FOUR AND I GOT JUST OVER 9% THAT'S RIGHT AT LEAST FOR THE 2017 ONE THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE 22 ONE JUST FOR FURTHER REFERENCE. SO THERE'S THERE'S AN ONGOING DISCUSSION AND RESEARCH LITERATURE HERE FULL OF BACK AND FORTH HERE AND SO SO AGAIN BUT AGAIN EVEN OUTSIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE IMPACT IS AGAIN PEER REVIEWED RESEARCH THAT GOES TO RIGOROUS PROCESSES HAS CONSISTENTLY FOUND IT AS A 0% COST IMPACT AND AS WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S FOR REASONS THAT WE HAD INDICATED OR THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY IS THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO A BASELINE IN AN INDUSTRY THAT IS RIFE WITH LABOR ABUSE. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL. SO AGAIN ON THE QUESTION OF COST PRETTY WELL SETTLED AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU . GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MATT SO AND AM A JOURNEYMAN CARPENTER WITH LOCAL 322 I AM GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE QUALITY THAT THE PREVAILING WAGE PUSHES OUR TRAINING FACILITIES OFFER TOP QUALITY DRIVEN TRAINING AND WHEN OUR APPRENTICES ARE GOING THROUGH OUR TRAINING PROGRAM THEY ARE GOING THROUGH STRINGENT TRAINING PROGRAMS. WE HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY AT 710 OLIVE STREET THAT I WOULD INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME DOWN. YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME DOWN ANY THURSDAY EVENING WE HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE AND YOU CAN WALK TO THE TRAINING FACILITY AND SEE THAT WE ARE A FIRST CLASS GRADE-A TRAINING FACILITY THE TRAINING THAT WE ARE GIVING OUR APPRENTICES IS NOTCH WHEN THEY JOURNEY OUT THEY BECOME JOURNEYMEN CARPENTERS AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OUR JOURNEYMAN CARPENTERS THIS IS AMAZING TRAINING NOW WHEN WE'RE WHEN I HEAR FOLKS TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW ,THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THIS APPRENTICE PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION COMES TO MY MIND IS THIS LIKE IT ISN'T GOING THROUGH THE SAME STRINGENT PROCESS, THE SAME KIND OF THING THAT WE GO THROUGH TO TRAIN OUR APPRENTICES. ANOTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PREVAILING WAGE IS AN EQUALIZER NOT JUST FOR UNION MEMBERS. IT ALSO LEVELS THE BECAUSE IT TAKES AWAY FROM THIS ABILITY FOR SUBCONTRACTORS TO MISS THEIR EMPLOYEES AND SUBCONTRACTORS WILL COME IN AND HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIKE GET THIS IS A THING THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WHERE A DRYWALL OUTFIT WILL COME IN AND HAVE 20 GUYS LIVING IN AN APARTMENT ONE LITTLE 20 BY 20 FOOT SQUARE HAVE THE GUYS SIT THERE. IT'S IT'S THE IT'S HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT HAPPENING IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND THE PREVAILING WAGE AS A WAY TO COMBAT THIS HUMAN TRAFFICKING BECAUSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH AND CHECKING THE CONDITIONS THAT THE WORKERS ARE BEING PUT IN FORCED TO WORK UNDER AND WHEN A LOT OF THESE GUYS ARE FORCED OR WHEN THEY'RE CONFRONTED WITH SAY SOMEBODY HAS AN INJURY, THEN YOU KNOW THE CONTRACT WORKERS WHO ARE NOT FOR THOSE PREVAILING WAGE THEY'LL TURN AROUND AND SAY HEY, WELL IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE GO AHEAD AND CALL A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU KNOW YOU'RE AT RISK FOR DEPORTATION OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AND SO WHAT WE OFFER WE OFFER A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR CONTRACTORS YOU NONUNION HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMPETITIVELY BID WITHOUT BEING UNDERMINED BY THIS UNDERCURRENT OF HUMAN IN OUR FIELD AND I WITH THAT OUR RE RELEASE MY TIME THANK VERY MUCH PLEASE COME TO 710 OLIVE STREET TO SEE WHAT TRADING IS I WOULD EXTEND THE INVITATION TO ALL OF YOU TO COME THERE THANK YOU OTHERS THIS EVENING I SUPPOSE I SHOULD DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WISHING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING ONE THEM ON LAST CALL FOR ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 4.2 COUNCIL NO ONE COMING FORWARD IN THE CHAMBERS AND WE'VE GOT NO ONE ON THE PHONE. I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.2 THIS EVENING SOME MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING NO FURTHER COMMENT ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING SO COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS WE WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE HAVE DISCUSSED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND THIS HAS GONE ON I THINK FOR THE PAST SEVEN MONTHS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IT BACK IN DECEMBER WE'VE BEEN OVER A LOT OF GROUND AND I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE QUESTIONS OR MORE IMPORTANTLY OPINIONS AND IDEAS ON THIS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER AND SEE WHERE WE WANT TO GO. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN MARY, I WANT TO THANK YOU. YOU KNOW AND I JUST WANT TO JUST START OFF BY SAYING THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY FOR SOME A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TOPIC TO COVER BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE SOME MEANINGFUL CHANGE. AND I, I CAN UNDERSTAND I APPRECIATE THOSE MEMBERS WHO YOU KNOW LOOK, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IS THE IMPACT FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR TAXPAYERS? AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY COMES FROM A REALLY SINCERE, YOU KNOW, PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST TYPE EXPERIENCE AS POSSIBLE AND TRYING TO KEEP THAT PRICE DOWN. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS HAS BEEN YOU KNOW, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, A REAL TENET OF OUR CITY AND THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED, YOU KNOW, ON ON THIS PARTICULAR DAIS AND SO APPRECIATE THAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK MY MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT IS ALSO QUALITY OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE MANY. NOW I UNDERSTAND THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ON THAT BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THAT'S BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEY IN TO PART OF OUR MISSION STATEMENT THAT MANY MEMBERS HAVE COME TO US AND ASKED US TO DO BUT TO LOOK AT THE WORKING THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING. AND SO BY LOOKING AT THIS PREVAILING WAGE THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A FAIR AND BALANCED MARKETPLACE FOR COMPETITION WITHIN OUR CITY. AND IT ALSO PROVIDES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE TYPE OF WORK AND THE TYPE OF PRODUCT AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU MAYBE NOT HAVE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION TONIGHT BUT I WOULD I WOULD I WOULD HOPE THAT OVER TIME THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MOVE YOU IN THAT DIRECTION. I AM CLEARLY IN SUPPORT OF WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT I ALWAYS WANT MORE I ALWAYS WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. I'M ALWAYS STRIVING FOR US TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE ON THIS THING BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR US TO TO START AND BEGIN TONIGHT AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THERE IS SOME PROCESS ISSUES HERE AND I'M HOPING THAT THOSE THOSE PROCESS ISSUES ARE NOT GOING TO BE A HURDLE FROM US GETTING THE BEST RESULT THAT WE CAN GET IN TERMS OF YOUR SUPPORT. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS POINTS OF VIEW OF , YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY ARE. BUT I AM FIRMLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I HOPE WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE A DIALOG ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE AT AND MAYBE SOME THE ISSUES YOU MAY HAVE WITH SUPPORTING THIS THIS EVENING. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO, I WANT TO BE THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT SOMETHING THAT JUST I'M I MUST ADMIT I'M CONFUSED BY AND MAYBE THERE'S A QUESTION HERE OR SOME CLARIFICATION THAT THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE DONE. BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE PREVAILING WAGE HOURLY RATES ARE SET BY SUBMISSIONS BY THE INDUSTRY SO THEY SAY HEY IF YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US WHAT YOU'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW, GO TO THIS WEBSITE, FILL OUT THIS THE SURVEY, SEND IT IN THEN ALL THAT DATA IS COLLECTED AND THAT THE MARKET RATE AS I UNDERSTAND IT FOR I MEAN ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET IS RATE WHAT THEY'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW THEY SEND IT IN AND THEN WE GET AN NUMBER THAT'S WHAT PREVAILING WAGE THAT'S THE PREVAILING WAGE AND IT CHANGES OVER TIME I'M A IF I'M INCORRECT ABOUT THAT THE WAY THAT THAT WORKS PLEASE LET ME KNOW BUT I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR STATE WEBSITE FOR HENNEPIN COUNTY AND IT BASICALLY COMES IN AND SAYS HERE'S AN EFFECTIVE RATE FROM THIS DATE TO THIS DATE. HERE'SHE BASIC RATE FOR A COMMON LABORER FOR EXAMPLE AND IT SAYS $41.66. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT NUMBER CAME FROM SUBMISSION OF SURVEYS BY PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY WHO SENT IN THEIR HOURLY RATES WHICH SOUNDS VERY MARKET TO ME. SO I'M VERY CONFUSED BY THE NOTION THAT PREVAILING IS NOT ATTEMPTING TO EQUALIZE THE MARKET RATE ACROSS CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AS AS A MEANS BY WHICH TO LAY THE QUALITY PLAYING FIELD. AND IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THAT PLEASE LET ME KNOW BUT OTHERWISE IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL WE'RE ASKING ALL WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SAY WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE RATES WE'RE EXPECTING WHEN I'M GOING TO USE THEM WE'RE EXPECTING YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THOSE RATES IF YOU GET A CITY OF BLOOMINGTON CONTRACT AND THAT DOESN'T FEEL WEIRD TO ME BECAUSE THE RATES ARE DEFINED BY THE MARKET AM I WRONG? MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF IF MR. MALLICK WANTS TO ANSWER THAT OR WHATEVER BUT LIKE THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW THE CREATION OF THE RATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS USED IS CREATED MORE MEMBERS AMERICANS CERTAINLY SPEAK TO IT FURTHER IF IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AND ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION I BELIEVE IT'S THE MODE NOT THE MEAN THE MODE. YEAH OKAY THAT'S SO OTHER THAN THAT. YEP. I BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAID IS ACCURATE. OKAY. AND IT AND IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T COME FROM LIKE THE STATE AUDITOR DOESN'T GO GET THAT DATA IT'S SENT IN BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK AND SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ASKING TO SET RATES THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY BEING PAID ALREADY TO DAY BY PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY. I'M JUST VERY VERY SURPRISED THAT AT THIS LAST MINUTE WE'RE HEARING THAT THAT'S THE POTENTIAL AND SO NARROWING IT DOWN, SCOPING THE WHOLE THING DOWN, WE COULD TALK ABOUT LABOR NON-LABOR WE COULD TALK ABOUT MARKET FORCES AND ALL THAT I GET IT BUT FOR THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT HERE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE ARE SAYING YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THAT CHEAT SHEET THAT YOU CAN FIND ONLINE AND YOU GOT TO PAY THOSE RATES AND WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT. AND BY THE WAY, YOU ALL ARE THE ONES THAT CREATED THOSE RATES BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT THE SURVEYS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHY GOING TO SUPPORT IT 100% OTHERS LET'S REMEMBER I WOULD THANK YOU MAYOR I'VE LEARNED A LOT SINCE BEING IN COUNCIL FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW AND THE THING I'VE LEARNED IN BLOOMINGTON IS THAT WE LIKE TO BUILD REALLY NICE THINGS AND LEAVE THEM FOR 67 YEARS. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I FEEL IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THINGS WE SPENT THE LAST FIVE YEARS GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SAYING HEY BLOOMINGTON IS COOL, BOOM IS GREAT. IT'S COMING UP. YOU SHOULD COME INVEST IN BLOOMINGTON AND WE WERE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL IN THAT. SO SUCCESSFUL WE'RE UP TO OUR EYEBALLS IN PROJECTS. LYRIC CAN'T HANDLE THEM. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE HISTORY THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE WE BECAME A TOWNSHIP IN THE 1800S AS A CITY 1960 WE'VE ALWAYS BUILT GREAT THINGS. AND WHEN I AM 90 YEARS OLD, GOD FORBID I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO LIVE THAT LONG WHEN. I TURN AROUND AND LOOK BACK AND SAY ARE THE THINGS THAT WE BUILT WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL ARE THEY STILL RELEVANT? DO PEOPLE STILL WANT TO GO TO THOSE THINGS AND SO THAT THAT'S WHERE IT MATTERS TO ME THAT WE LIVED THE VALUES THAT WE WENT AND SAW BLOOMINGTON AND PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE BECAUSE WE SAID THESE ARE THE VALUES WE HAVE AND THESE ARE THE VALUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT FORTH TO YOU SO THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO COME AND BE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND HELP BUILD A REMARKABLE AND ENDURING COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO BE. AND THAT TO ME MEANS THAT WE'RE RESPECTING OUR WE'RE ALLOWING THE MARKET TO SET THOSE RATES. WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD SO THAT WE CAN BUILD INCREDIBLE, AMAZING THINGS HERE. BLOOMINGTON IS THE PLACE TO BE AND IT'S TO BE THE PLACE TO BE FOR THE NEXT 100 YEARS. AND SO THAT'S I FEEL OBLIGATED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO BUILD THESE THINGS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE AND WORK HERE FOR THE FOR THE REMAINING FUTURE WHEN I'M NOT HERE ANYMORE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO FIRST I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND I APPRECIATE THE ENGAGEMENT THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT INTO THIS ORDINANCE AND PROCESS. I ALSO HAVE APPRECIATED HEARING THE PERSPECTIVES OUT THERE BOTH IN PERSON AND THROUGH THE LET'S TALK BLOOMINGTON PLATFORM AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS CLOSE ONES WHO ARE UNION AND NONUNION. MY DAD OWNED A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN IOWA WHICH IS NOT A BIG UNION STATE. RIGHT. LIKE SO FOR ME WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE IT REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY COMES DOWN TO HUMAN RIGHTS. I I'VE TALKED WITH RESIDENTS IN BLOOMINGTON WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED WAGE THEFT, WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED HORRIBLE WORKING CONDITIONS AND I JUST FUNDAMENTALLY DON'T THINK THAT AS I YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT OUR PLAN WHICH I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED OUR MISSION OUR VALUES. RIGHT. NOT ONLY TO HAVE AN EQUITABLE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY BUT TO HAVE SAFETY AND SECURITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW OUR COMMUNITY THRIVES WHEN HIS MEMBERS SHARE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS WELL-BEING IN . ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IN OUR MISSION AND OUR CORE VALUES ALIGN WITH THIS ORDINANCE AND TO ME IT'S NOT UNION VERSUS NON UNION. IT IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD OUT THERE AND THIS IS JUST LOCALLY FUNDED PROJECTS. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE DON'T HAVE THAT POWER. IT IS PROJECTS THAT LOCAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GOING INTO AND WHEN I LOOK AT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT ENGAGED OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY WANTED THIS IS THE TYPE OF POLICY THAT THEY WANT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING TRAFFICKING OR WAGE THEFT OR EVEN JUST BELOW STANDARD WORKING CONDITIONS. I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF BLOOMINGTON WANT MORE MORE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ORDINANCE. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANK MAYOR I MEAN THIS ONE'S TOUGH FOR ME BECAUSE I SEE I SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT SIDES TO THIS AND PART OF IT IS I AGREE COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO THE WAGE IS SET BY THE MARKETPLACE WHICH ALSO MAKES ME ASK THEN WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE A PREVAILING WAGE IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN SET BY THE MARKETPLACE? LET THE MARKETPLACE WORK. I'M A FREE KIND OF PERSON THAT SORT OF MAKES SENSE. WHAT I HEAR OF CONCERNS ON THE FLIP SIDE IS THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS A FAIR THAT'S SETTING THOSE IT'S AN UNFAIR MARKETPLACE THAT'S SETTING THOSE AND THEN WE GET INTO WAGE THEFT AND THEN I GO TO THE OTHER SIDE AND AGREE HEY YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ALREADY HAVE LAWS ABOUT WAGE THEFT? WE HAVE THOSE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE STATE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOOD PARTNERS IN IT AND I TALKED ABOUT US NOT NECESSARILY DUPLICATING OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT'S ENFORCEMENT AND REBUILDING WHAT THEY SHOULD ALREADY BE BUILDING HERE AND SO KNOW I KEEP ON THIS PATH GOING UP AND DOWN ON LIST YOU KNOW AS I THINK ABOUT IT AND SO I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION ON IT WILL WE TAKE OVER ENFORCEMENT FOR ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO DO THIS BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW IS MANDATING I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. MALIK ON THAT AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HE AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT HE ALSO MEMBER NELSON COUNCIL SO CURRENTLY WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECTS THAT DUE TO STATE LAW HAVE PREVAILING WAGE AND AS PART OF RECEIVING THAT MONEY THEN WE DO NEED TO ENFORCE PREVAILING WAGE FOR THOSE SO THAT'S WHY WE ALREADY WE ALREADY DO THAT FOR THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. OKAY. IS THAT THE SAME AT FEDERAL LAW IF I MAY? YES. IF YOU TAKE THE MONEY THEN YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT OR SO SO THEN LET ME DO MY UP AND DOWN THING. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE LESS THAN 20 PROJECTS. WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS WITH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND I DON'T REALLY NEED IT UNLESS YOU HAVE OUR STOP YOUR HEAD BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING 20 NEW PROJECTS OR FEWER IF I'M UNDERSTAND THAT FEWER RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY AT AROUND IT CHANGES BY YEAR BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY LIKE 5 TO 10 PROJECTS RIGHT NOW PER YEAR THAT ARE ALREADY USING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE YOU KNOW OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES AND THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS ARE ALREADY GETTING STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING AND THEN WE WOULD BE ADDING ON ON TOP OF THAT 10 TO 12 PROJECTS DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE DOING . OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION . GIVE US ANY ANYTHING TO ADD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THIS THIS WHOLE TOPIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS TO PROTECT WORKERS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THIS ISN'T NEW TO THIS THIS PEOPLE SITTING AT THIS DESK 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SMOKING BANS IN BARS SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE MAIN PARTS OF THAT WAS TO PROTECT THE BARTENDERS AND THE WAITERS AND THE WAITSTAFF AND SO ON WHO WERE BREATHING IN THAT SECONDHAND. SO THIS ISN'T NOT A NEW CONVERSATION IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON PROTECTING WORKERS IS NOT A NEW CONVERSATION. WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR EARNED SICK AND SAFELY DISCUSSION THAT WE DID AND WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN REGARDING REGARDING PREVAILING WAGE. WE STARTED THIS BACK IN NOVEMBER OR EXCUSE ME DECEMBER AND THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS UNDERWAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND THINK I DON'T THINK THERE'S DISAGREEMENT THAT IF IF THERE IS CITY FINANCIAL SUPPORT THAT'S PART OF A PROJECT THEN WORKERS ON THAT PROJECT SHOULD BE PROTECTED. I THINK IF WE DON'T DO THAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING EXACTLY AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TALKED ABOUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING AGAINST OUR OUR HISTORY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE GOING AGAINST OUR FUTURE THAT WE'VE LAID OUT OUR IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND NOW I KNOW FULL WELL THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF EMPLOYERS FOLKS WORKING IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THEY DO A GREAT JOB. THEY TREAT WORKERS WITH RESPECT. THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIGNITY OF WORKERS. THEY HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. EVERYBODY IS TREATED FAIRLY. THE VAST MAJORITY. BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THAT'S NOT 100% THE CASE. WE KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND TO PASS SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT LEAVING THAT PLAYING FIELD IS LEVELED WITH AT THE SAME TIME DOING OUR BEST IN PUBLIC POLICY WE PASSED IT DOESN'T HAVE THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON BUSINESSES AND ON PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND PRIVATE COMPANIES. I JUST I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WE'VE WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB BRINGING THIS AROUND. I MEAN WE WERE IN THIS DISCUSSION I THINK WE WERE MOVING FORWARD IN APRIL ON THIS AND DECIDED WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HRA WEIGHED IN WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION AT THE AUTHORITY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO ALL THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DO SO WELL IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK WE MADE A AN INTENTIONAL TO BRING IN ALL THE VOICES THAT WE CAN I MEAN THE HEARING TONIGHT TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE I THINK WE THIS IS WHAT WE WERE SET UP TO DO AND WANTED TO DO AND I THINK NOW IS THE TIME FOR THE DECISION ON THAT. AND FRANKLY I THINK THE ONLY DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE IS TO PASS THIS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TO TO ENSURE THAT THE WORKERS WHO HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PROTECTED HERE IN THE OF BLOOMINGTON WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROTECTED. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO DO AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I HOPE OTHERS WILL AS WELL. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST I DIDN'T ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION. DO YOU MIND IF I JUST FOLLOW UP WITH A FEW MORE COMMENTS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I AM HONESTLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS UNDERSTOOD. PLEASE. I FRANKLY DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE VEHICLE OF THIS PREVAILING WAGE BECAUSE OF THE PREVAILING WAGE AND SETTING OF WAGES AND I'M JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF THAT. I MUCH MORE BELIEVE IN MARKET PLACES BUT THE THING THAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT RIGHT IN MY STOMACH IS JUST PEOPLE NOT BEING TREATED FAIRLY ON A WORKSITE AND YOU KNOW WAGE THEFT AND AND ALL OF THAT AND MY PERSONAL WISH IF I COULD CRAFT IT THE WAY I WANTED TO IT NOT BE WOULD TAKE THE PREVAILING WAGE PART OUT OF IT AND WE WOULD WORK BETTER WITH THE STATE TO GO AFTER WAGE THEFT NOT JUST IN CONSTRUCTION BUT IN RESTAURANTS AND HOSPITALITY AND AN ENTIRE IF IF I COULD CREATE THIS BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS US AND NOT WHAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE HAVE PUT A LOT OF GOOD WORK INTO AND FOR ME I JUST CAN'T LET MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PREVAILING WAGE OVERWHELM THE REAL LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT WAGE THEFT AND MISCLASSIFICATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO I WILL SUPPORT IT VERY, VERY AND WOULD HOPE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE WORK BETTER WITH THE STATE TO ENFORCE WAGE THEFT AND OTHER ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND ALL INDUSTRIES AND PROTECT ALL WORKERS IN BLOOMINGTON. AND AND I THINK THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE PART OF THE NEXT DISCUSSION AND I'VE ALREADY TELEGRAPHED I DON'T WANT TO CREATE DUPLICATE SYSTEMS I GET THE PROBLEM WITH MY COMMENTS. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT I SEE THAT WE CAN SOLVE ON MUCH MORE THAN THE ACTUAL WAGE SETTING OF WAGES AND I MEAN THE REALITY IS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO MUCH WORK. I THINK WE JUST NOTE SOME CHART THAT THE STATE HAS ALREADY DONE BUT SO THERE WON'T BE AS MUCH OF ADMINISTRATIVE THERE. SO AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INFORMATION ON THE THE COSTS I DO HAVE CONCERN ON THAT I MEAN BECAUSE AM HEARING TWO DIFFERENT STORIES FROM THE CITY SO THAT'S WHY I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES AND HOW DIFFICULT A DECISION THIS IS TO MAKE THIS YOU KNOW GIVEN I ALWAYS HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS SO I WANT TO JUSTHANK YOU FOR FOR REALLY JUST STEPPING AND DOING THIS. THANK YOU. IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE MAYOR COUNCIL LAST CHANCE ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS JUST WANT TO LOSS THIS ONLY AFFECTS TO THE PROJECTS THE CITY WILL BE PAYING FOR RIGHT NOW NOT PRIVATE INDUSTRY THAT THAT IS CORRECT PROJECTS WITH A WITH A CITY A PUBLIC FINANCING COMPONENT OF MORE THAN $175,000 WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE. ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN VOTE YES ON THIS. AS I SAID, PRIVATE ENTERPRISES CAN GET AFFECTED BY IT. MEMBER WOMAN LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE THIS THING. THE MAYOR MOVING ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A PREVAILING WAGE FOR CERTAIN CITY FUNDED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CITY THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS ONE AND 23 PDX A AND THE CITY CODE SECOND A COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ADOPT AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING PREVAILING WAGE FOR CERTAIN CITY FUNDED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTERS ONE AND 23 IN APPENDIX SAY OF THE CITY CODE NO FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRY SEVEN ZERO COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN OH NO NO NO NO PLEASE DO NOT PLEASE DO NOT I APPRECIATE YOUR ENTHUSIASM BUT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THE DECORUM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGH. THANK YOU. MERRILL MOVED AUTHORIZING THE SUMMARY OF PUBLICATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 2414 SORRY THERE ARE AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING PREVAILING WAGE FOR CERTAIN CITY FUNDED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE CITY THEREBY CHAPTERS ONE AND 23 A OF CITY CODE SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER LUMM AND SECONDLY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER EXCUSE ME FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION ON ITEM 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE THE MOTION CARRIES 70I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU THE STAFF FOR THIS. THIS HAS BEEN A SEVEN MONTH PROJECT THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I APPRECIATE IT. MR. MALIK WORK AS MANAGER SHOWED THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO OUR COEDS STAFF FOR THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT ON AND THE COUNCIL THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION ON THIS AND THE DISCUSSION AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS FOR FOR COMING FORWARD AND BEING PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK IT WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE AND I'M GLAD WE HAD IT. SO THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND IF YOU STICK AROUND, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS HERE IN ABOUT HALF HOUR SO YOU CAN SEE THEN THINGS WILL REALLY GET INTERESTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MANISH ALL RIGHT. EXCUSE ME I UNDERSTAND MAYOR I JUST WANT TO ADD OUR SUPPORT STAFF PERSON IN OUR OFFICE LAST WHO AS WELL WHO WAS REALLY REALLY HELPFUL. VERY THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS TO ALL WHO WORKED ON THIS COUNCIL THAT WRAPS UP OUR ITEM FOR ON THE AGENDA THE HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCE AS WE MOVE ON IN FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND ITEM 5.1 IS AN UPDATE ON OUR LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING PROGRAM. MS. STRAUSS OUR SUSTAINABILITY CORNER TO COORDINATOR IS WITH US THIS EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR IN COUNCIL MEMBERS WAIT FOR MY PRESENTATIONS TO GET UP AND WE'LL SPEND ABOUT 15 MINUTES TOGETHER. SO I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING PROGRAM AND SPECIFICALLY THE FACT THAT LAST YEAR STATE LAWMAKERS PASSED A NEW STATUTE THAT'S ACTUALLY ROLLING OUT STATEWIDE LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING SO THE CITY HAS A DECISION TO MAKE AND TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE US TO JUST START THAT DISCUSSION AND GET INITIAL FEEDBACK ON IT. I'LL BE COMING LATER IN THE FALL BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S A DECISION TO MAKE. WE WANT TO KEEP OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE AND PROGRAM OR RESCIND OUR ORDINANCE AND GO WITH A STATEWIDE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTING LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING IN THE CITY SO QUICKLY I'LL GO OVER AS A REMINDER WHAT LARGE BUILDING BENCHMARKING IS GO THROUGH THE ANNUAL PROCESS THE PROGRAM BENEFITS WITH THE NEW PROGRAM IS LOOKING LIKE PATHWAYS FORWARD AND THEN HAVING DISCUSSION AND SPECIFICALLY HEARING IF THERE'S ANY THAT I SHOULD BE ASKING THE STATE AS THEY ROLL OUT THEIR NEW PROGRAM SO LARGE BILLING BENCHMARKING. THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR OF THE PROGRAM. THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN 2021 SO WE HAVE BUILDINGS ARE PUBLIC COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY 75,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE ABOUT 190 PROPERTIES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BENCHMARK ANNUALLY THEIR ENERGY USE AND DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY OR THEN WE REPORT THAT BACK TO THEM IN THE FORM OF A REPORT BUT WE ALSO DISCLOSE THAT PUBLICLY. SO THAT'S BUILDINGS CAN COMPARE TO SIMILAR BUILDING TYPES THEIR ENERGY. SO THIS PROCESS STARTS OUT IN MARCH OF EACH YEAR WE TALK TO ASSESSING AND THEY GIVE US THE LIST OF EVERYONE WHO'S REQUIRED TO BENCHMARK THAT YEAR WE SEND OUT A LETTER WE WORK WITH A CONSULTANTS THAT'S PROVIDED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE SO BETWEEN MARCH AND MAY ANY PROPERTY THAT NEEDS HELP GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS HAS ONE ON ONE SUPPORT OR CAN ATTEND TRAININGS. BY JUNE 1ST PROPERTIES ARE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY THROUGH THE FREE TOOL ENERGY PORTFOLIO MANAGER AND THEN THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THAT PUBLICLY. WE'VE BEEN USING INTERACTIVE MAP THE OTHER CITIES AND HAD A BIG COUNTY USE AS WELL. WE'RE PART OF THE EFFICIENT BUILDINGS COLLABORATIVE THAT HENNEPIN COUNTY STARTED AND WE ALSO GET A LOT OF DATA WHICH MAKES ME EXCITED SO THAT WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO TARGET THE PROPERTIES AND DO OUTREACH TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT FOLKS TO RESOURCES TO SAVE ENERGY. SO PROGRAM BENEFITS HELPS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH ENERGY THEY'RE USING. YOU CAN'T MARRIAGE WHAT YOU DON'T MEASURE SO IT GIVES AT LEAST ONE TOUCH POINT A YEAR THAT FOLKS ARE LOOKING AT THEIR ENERGY USE WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR CLIMATE GOALS BECAUSE THESE TEND TO BE THE LARGEST USERS OF ENERGY IN THE CITY WHICH IS OUR LORD A SOURCE OF CLIMATE POLLUTION. WE'VE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IT FACILITATES PEER BUILDING COMPARISONS SO DIFFERENT SCHOOLS CAN LOOK AT HOW THOSE SCHOOLS ARE PERFORMING. GROCERY STORES CAN COMPARE TO ONE ANOTHER AND WE ALSO FIND THAT WE'RE A BETTER RESOURCE BUILDING OWNERS. I'LL QUICKLY SHARE THE STORY THAT WE HAVE A NEW SUSTAINABILITY SPECIALIST THAT DOES CLIMATE OUTREACH. JAMILA WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT DATA THIS YEAR FOR ALL OF OUR HOTELS IN THE PROGRAM SEE THE HOTELS THAT ARE THE LEAST ENERGY EFFICIENT BE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE STAFF TIME TO THEN GO ONSITE PARTNER WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH STAFF THAT DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS THOSE HOTELS MEET WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE NEVER ABLE DO BEFORE WE HAD THIS INFORMATION. SO THE NEW STATE BENCHMARKING REQUIREMENT IS VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PROGRAM I WOULD SAY ALMOST IT WAS MODELED AFTER PROGRAMS LIKE OUR CITY HAS SO AND THIS WILL BE REQUIRED IN THE SEVEN COUNTY METRO AREA ALONG WITH DULUTH, ROCHESTER AND SAINT CLOUD NEXT YEAR. BUILDINGS ARE 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE WILL BE REQUIRED TO BENCHMARK AND THEN FOLLOWING YEAR AND 2026 IT'LL BE 50,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE ARE AS A CITY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR PROGRAM OR DECIDE TO HAVE THE STATE RUN THE PROGRAM FORWARD. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS THOUGH. WE HAVE TO HAVE BE AT LEAST AS COMPREHENSIVE IN SCOPE AND APPLICATION AS THE STATE'S PROGRAM. I REACHED OUT TO THE STATE. I ASKED HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT AND FIGURE THAT OUT? THEY ARE STILL A PROCESS OF HIRING THEIR VENDOR AND EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS SO THEY SAID IT'S THEIR RADAR THEY MEAN TO BE REALLY COLLABORATIVE WITH THE PROCESS BUT LATER THIS SUMMER IN THE FALL IS WHEN THEY'LL BE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT ANSWERING SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS. I LOOKED THROUGH THE MAIN DIFFERENCES SIGHS CURRENTLY OUR PROGRAM ONLY GOES TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE THIS WOULD BE ADDING ABOUT 110 PROPERTIES GOING FROM 50,000 AND ABOVE. ALSO THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS WITH ONSITE BUILDING DISCLOSURE, HAVING A STAR SYSTEM IN THE WINDOW OR ON SITE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND THEN ALSO BENCHMARKING INFORMATION WHEN A PROPERTY IS SOLD SO THOSE ARE DETAILS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT AND THEN HAVING ENFORCEMENT PENALTY WHICH IS ALREADY PART OF OUR ORDINANCE. SO WE WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT SO QUICKLY BUILDING SIZE REQUIREMENTS NEXT YEAR IN 2025 15000 TO 75000 SQUARE FEET IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY OR STATE. BUT IN 2026 IT WILL BE WE HAVE ABOUT 40 BUILDINGS THAT ARE BETWEEN THE 75,000 AND 100,000 SQUARE FEET THAT IS REQUIRED RIGHT WITH OUR CITY ORDINANCE BUT WILL NOT NEXT YEAR BY THE STATE YET BUT IN 2026 AND BEYOND IT WILL AND THEN WE HAVE 150 BUILDINGS THAT ARE 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE AND THAT WILL BE REQUIRED NEXT YEAR AND BEYOND FROM BOTH THE STATE AND OUR CITY ORDINANCE. SO WE HAVE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER FOR NEXT YEAR WE CAN KEEP THE PROGRAM IS KEEPING IN MIND THAT THERE MIGHT BE STATE REQUIRED ORDINANCE DATA ACCESS WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR ALL THE BUILDING SIZES COST ESTIMATE I REACHED OUT TO OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDING ASSISTANCE FOR US FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS THAT WOULD BE ABOUT $30,000 PARTICIPANT EXPERIENCE MOSTLY THE SAME PENDING THOSE FEW UPDATES HIGHER STAFF TIME BUT THAT'S JUST MOSTLY BECAUSE OF THIS COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE STATE PROGRAM CHANGING POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE. SO THEN WE HAVE OPTION B WHICH WOULD BE FOR THOSE HIGHER PROPERTIES 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE. BUT WE KEEP THOSE 40 PROPERTIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING BENCHMARKED FROM 75,000 AND ABOVE WE WOULD GET DATA ACCESS FOR THE 75000 TO 100000 BECAUSE WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. WE DO WRITTEN IN THAT THE STATE IS REQUIRED BY DECEMBER TO GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACCESS TO DATA SO THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE STATUTE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FORM OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BUT ASSUMING WE WOULD STILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION IT WOULD BE 14,000 TO COVER THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THE STATE WOULDN'T NEXT YEAR. THE POTENTIAL CONFUSION FROM PARTICIPANTS IF YOU KNOW THINKING OF OUR WEBSITE AND OUR PROCESS AND SENDING OUT THE MAILERS SOME PROPERTIES WOULD GO TO THE STATE, SOME WOULD GO TO US STAFF TIME I WOULD SAY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS OPTION HIGHER BECAUSE WE WOULD BE COMMUNICATING SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND THEN THE LAST OPTION WOULD JUST BE TO END OUR PROGRAM YEAR AND SAY THE STATE'S TAKING OVER THAT WOULD LEAVE GAP FOR THE PROPERTIES 75000 TO 100000 SQUARE FEET. WE WOULD GET THAT DATA FOR 100,000 SQUARE FEET AND ABOVE THERE WOULD BE A COST TO THAT POTENTIAL CONFUSION. WE WITH THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULDN'T BE BENCHMARKING SINCE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE INTO A HABIT TO DO THIS AND THEY WOULD BE PAUSING FOR A YEAR AND THEN STARTING AGAIN BUT SLIGHTLY LESS STAFF TIME THAN OPTIONS A AND B TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE STATE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE CARRYING OUT AND WE WOULD NEED TO SET UP A CONTRACTOR OR DO ANY MAILERS OR ANY OF THAT WORK AND THEN OPTIONS FOR 2026 AND BEYOND. SO ESSENTIALLY THE CITY COULD RUN OUR PROGRAM WITH THE CONSULTANT ASSISTANCE WE WOULD HAVE DATA ACCESS IT WOULD BE ABOUT $14,000 PARTICIPANT EXPERIENCE MOSTLY THE SAME STAFF TIME WOULD BE HIGHER BECAUSE WE WOULD BE ADDING THOSE 110 PROPERTIES AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS GETTING THOSE ADDRESSES, HELPING PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO BENCHMARK NOW THAT WE'RE IN YEAR THREE FOLKS ARE GETTING MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS OR THE STATE COULD RUN THE PROGRAM AGAIN. WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL HAVE DATA ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOCUSED OUTREACH COST ESTIMATE ZERO PARTICIPANT EXPERIENCE UNKNOWN IT'S A NEW PROGRAM BUT STAFF TIME WOULD DEFINITELY BE LOWER AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FOCUS THAT ON OTHER SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES OR OTHER ASSISTANCE FOR THESE PROPERTIES. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION NEXT YEAR IS TO KEEP THE PROGRAM AS IS LET THE STATE HAVE A YEAR TO ROLL OUT THEIR PROGRAM. WE THINK IT WOULD BE AN EASIER TRANSITION FOR PARTICIPANTS. IT KEEPS UP OUR DATA ACCESS KEEPS UP BENCHMARKING HABITS AND IT ALIGNS LIKELY WITH THE DIRECTION OF OTHER CITIES. I KNOW FOR FOR SURE THAT SAINT LOUIS PARK IS DOING THAT PROCESS UP ONE MORE YEAR OF BENCHMARKING AND THEN THEY PLAN TO GO OVER TO THE STATES . THAT'S ALSO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR 2026 AND BEYOND TO RESCIND OUR BENCHMARKING ORDINANCE, HAVE THE STATE TAKE IT OVER THAT ALLOWS MONEY AND STAFF TIME TO BE REINVESTED IN OTHER ACTIVITIES WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND ALSO HAS STATEWIDE CONSISTENCY WHICH I KNOW IS A PRIORITY. WHEN WE ROLLED OUT THE PROGRAM BETWEEN CITIES THAT COUNCIL HAD AND WE WILL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA POTENTIAL PROPOSED NEXT STEPS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION TONIGHT AS I MENTIONED WE'LL GET MORE DIRECTION FROM THE STATE THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE COMING BACK IN THE FALL TO GET FORMAL DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL THAT WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH TIME THAT IF WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A CONTRACT FOR OUR CONSULTANTS FOR BENCHMARKING THAT WE CAN DO THAT BEFORE IT ENDS IN THE END OF DECEMBER COMMUNICATION WITH WHAT PATHWAY WE'RE DOING THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AND THEN THE NEW REPORTING YEAR STARTS IN MARCH AND WITH THAT THANK YOU AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM. THANK YOU COUNSEL BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS AND I'M GOING TO CATEGORIZE THIS ONE AS A NO BRAINER, THIS ONE SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THINK STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO CONTINUE THROUGH NEXT YEAR AND THEN TO CONVERT OVER TO THE STATE RUN PROGRAM IS A PRETTY LOGICAL STEP TO TAKE I JUST JUST MY AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE WELL IT'S I DON'T REMEMBER IT'S JUST YET BUT IT'S FUNNY YOU SAID THAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT BUT MY MY ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS IF FOR SOME REASON YOU KNOW, AFTER 2026 WE WANTED TO FOR ANY REASON KIND OF GO BACK TO HAVING IT OR WE PRECLUDED FROM DOING THAT DON'T KNOW THAT WE WELL THAT'S A NO BRAINER AND FOR SURE YEAH OKAY SOUNDS GREAT. WELL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. HI. NICE TO SEE YOU. YEAH. THINK THIS MAKES A TON OF SENSE. I THINK THE DIRECTION MAKES SENSE. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE US TO SAY 2026 AND BEYOND. COOL. LONG AS WE KNOW FOR SURE WE'RE GETTING THE DATA. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO I WOULDN'T WANT TO NOT HAVE THE DATA AND STILL MOVE OVER IF WE GET THERE. THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD SAY IS ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN IS YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE THE TENUOUS NATURE OF THE MAKEUP OF THE OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS GET REPEALED YEARS LATER AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY STUDY LIKE IT ALWAYS MAKES ME NERVOUS TO DO THAT. ALL THAT HAVING BEEN SAID IF THAT DOESN'T IF THAT DOESN'T CHANGE IT WOULD MAKE COMPLETE SENSE BUT I THINK MONITORING THROUGH 2026 AND UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST THE STATE'S ABILITY TO GET TO THE DATA AND CONFIRMING THAT THE DATA IS THE SAME IN ITS IN A TIMELY MANNER SO CAN MAKE THOSE CALLS AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE I'M SUPER THRILLED THAT JIM WAS ABLE TO DO THAT WORK THAT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO BE TRACKING THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE CALLS TO SEE IF THE PEOPLE THAT SHE REACHES TO ARE ACTUALLY MAKING CHANGES AND IF WE'RE SEEING THAT THAT'S WORKING RIGHT. SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE DOING THAT YOUR DATA PERSON LIKE ME. SO THAT'S BUT BUT YEAH MAYBE IN 2026 THEN WE LOOK AT THIS AGAIN AND LOOK AT THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE AS WELL AND THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS STUFF GETS CONTINUALLY FUNDED AS WELL AS WHAT DATA WE'RE ABLE TO GET. THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK MAYOR. THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE BUT I'M STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF IF THE STATE DOES SOMETHING WE'RE ALREADY DOING OF NOT DUPLICATE AND DISCONTINUING IT AT THE CITY LEVEL. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU THAT THAT I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR IT. LET'S REMEMBER MORE. YOU MAYOR. THE ONE PIECE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON IS MAKING SURE OUR PARTNERS WHO IN THE CITY HAVE SAID WE WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THIS BENCHMARKING PROGRAM MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE VERY CLEAR AND HAVE THE FULL SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY VOLUNTARILY SAID WE WANT TO DO THIS WITH YOU. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS TRANSITION. AND THEN JUST SECONDLY, I THINK AGREED WITH EVERYONE I THINK THIS IS THE PIECE WHERE WE GET A NICKEL AND A DIME BACK. IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS ANY MEANS BUT EVERY NICKEL AND DIME WE CAN GET BACK. I FULLY SUPPORT THAT AND KNOW THAT IT WILL MAKE A BIGGER DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE. THANKS. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL? SO TWO THINGS. FIRST OF ALL A QUESTION ON THE THE DECISION POINT LATER ON. I MEAN IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WAITING ON MORE INFORMATION FROM STATE IS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON OR MR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT SEEMS LIKE TONIGHT'S DIRECTION WAS PRETTY SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE STAFF WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH PROPOSING THOSE ORDINANCE UPDATES SO IF THE STATE DOES SAY THAT WE NEED TO MODIFY SOME THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE WE'LL DO THAT AND THEN COME BACK IN THE FALL WITH THAT READY TO GO. GOT IT. OKAY. AND THE SECOND POINT THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE I THINK IT'S PRETTY COOL THAT MEAN ONCE AGAIN WE'RE SEEING BLOOMINGTON AND OTHER CITIES IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AHEAD OF WHAT THE STATE IS DOING AND THE STATE RUSHING TO CATCH UP. SO WELL DONE ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS MOVING IT FORWARD AND MAKING IT SUCH A SUCCESS AND PROVING TO THE STATE THAT IT CAN AND SHOULD BE DONE AND DONE SUCCESSFULLY SO. WELL THEN THANK YOU. ITEM 5.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS A CANNABIS ZONING AND BUSINESS REGISTRATION STANDARDS DISCUSSION AND OUR CITY CLERK SCIPIONE IS HERE. WE'VE GOT NICK KELLY OUR PUBLIC HEALTH ADMIN IS HERE AS WELL AND EMILY I'M EMILY PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT. THAT'S BETH FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS HERE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT BUT EVENING WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL I'M BOOKING ENDING THE MEETING FOR YOU THIS EVENING. TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE FIRST STEP IN OUR CANNABIS DISCUSSIONS AND REGULATIONS ESPECIALLY AS WE REACT TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT JUST WRAPPED UP. SO TONIGHT I'LL BE PROVIDING SOME BACKGROUND KNOW WE WERE BEFORE COUNCIL WITH KIND OF A MORE EXTENSIVE LEGISLATIVE SUMMARY BACK IN 2023 WHEN THE CANNABIS LAW WAS PASSED BUT WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES ON WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN AND JUST REMINDERS OF WHAT WE'RE TO DO AS A CITY AND WHAT WE AREN'T. THEN WE'LL BE DISCUSSING TIMELINE FOR REGULATION AND POLICY DECISIONS ESPECIALLY THAT RELATES TO RECENT CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATION AND SOME TIMING THAT WE EXPECT AND THE POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS WE COULD HAVE COMING. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME POLICY DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE. THIS AGAIN WON'T BE THE ONLY TIME WE'RE DISCUSSING CANNABIS BUT FOR TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WILL BE DIRECTION ON SENSITIVE USES BUFFERS FROM THOSE SENSITIVE USES ZONING USE TYPES AND ZONING DISTRICTS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES. AND THEN ANY POTENTIAL LICENSE LIMITS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES. SO HOW DID WE END UP HERE? RIGHT. RECREATIONAL CANNABIS WAS LEGALIZED IN 2023 AND THE OFFICE CANNABIS MANAGEMENT WAS ESTABLISHED AND SO THE STATE GIVES UNDER THAT LEGISLATION THE STATE GIVES CITIES SOME AUTHORITY TO MANAGE AND REGULATE CANNABIS. WE ARE ALLOWED TO BUFFER REQUIREMENTS FROM CERTAIN PROTECTED USES OR SENSITIVE USES AND WE CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME GENERAL ZONING AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. CANNABIS BUSINESSES ARE LICENSED BY THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT AND THEY HAVE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS WITH THE CITIES IN WHICH THEY ARE OPERATING. SO AS I MENTIONED CITIES CAN ADOPT REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TIME PLACE AND MANNER OF OPERATIONS OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES AND SO LOOKING TO DO THAT THROUGH OUR ZONING CODE . WE CANNOT THE POSSESSION, THE TRANSPORTATION OR THE USE OF CANNABIS AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF LICENSED RETAILERS TO NO THAN ONE REGISTRATION FOR EVERY 12,500 RESIDENTS. SO THAT GETS US TO SEVEN IN BLOOMINGTON. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW FOR AT LEAST SEVEN CANNABIS BUSINESSES WITHIN CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE COULD LIMIT IT AFTER THAT TO NO ADDITIONAL BEYOND IF WE WANT TO. THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THE STATUTE ALLOWS. SO THE LICENSE LICENSING PROCESS FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES REALLY STARTS WITH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT THERE ADMINISTERING THE LICENSES AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY I THINK THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION THEY PARED IT DOWN FROM 14 LICENSE TYPES TO 11 LICENSE TYPES BUT IT IS EVERYTHING FROM CULTIVATORS THE MANUFACTURERS, THE TRANSPORTERS TESTING THE WHOLESALERS, THE RETAILERS. IT'S A YOU KNOW IS A 340 PAGE BILL. SO IT IS THE WHOLE PROCESS AND THE LAST TIME I SAID FROM SEED TO SMALL GREAT GENERALLY THE WAY THE LICENSING PROCESS WORKS IS THE CANNABIS BUSINESS IS GOING TO APPLY WITH THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT REVIEWS THAT APPLICATIONS AND THIS IS NEW THIS YEAR. NOW THE OFFICE OF CANDIDATES MANAGEMENT WILL ACTUALLY ISSUE A CONDITIONAL LICENSE SAYING TO THAT LICENSEE YOU MEET OUR BACKGROUNDING AND OUR GENERAL OUTLOOK OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS. AT THAT POINT THEN THE LICENSE HOLDER GOES AND FINDS A PREMISES RECEIVES LOCAL ZONING APPROVAL AND THEN THEY'LL GO BACK TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT AND SAY HEY OKAY NOW I HAVE MY LOCATION AND I KNOW I HAVE MY ZONING APPROVALS FROM THE CITY SO NOW I'M READY TO FINALIZE THIS LICENSE. SO AFTER CONDITIONAL LICENSE ISSUANCE THEY BASICALLY HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF TO FIND LOCATION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD AND THAT WAS A CHANGE FROM HOW THIS WAS INITIALLY WRITTEN IN 2023 AND IN MY OPINION AN IMPROVEMENT. IT MAKES IT A LOT SMOOTHER FOR THAT LICENSEE. THEY'RE NOT BOUNCG BACK BETWEEN CITY AND THE STATE QUITE AS MUCH AS THEY WERE BEFORE AND AFTER. OCM HAS CONFIRMED WITH THE CITY THAT THE APPLICANT DOES FACT NEED OUR ZONING ARE BUILDING IN OUR FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ISSUE THAT LICENSE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE A REGISTRATION TO THAT CANNABIS BUSINESS. THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US AND REGISTER AND THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING UNDER AGE CHECKS WE CAN SUSPEND REGISTRATIONS AND SUPPORT REPORT COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS TO THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT AND WE COLLECT REGISTRATION FEES AND WILL RECEIVE PORTION OF THE CANNABIS TAX REVENUE SO OUR FOR THIS FOR INITIAL POLICY DISCUSSION WE IN APRIL AND MAY WE ATTENDED ADVISORY BOARD THE BOARD OF HEALTH WORK SESSIONS BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH STANDPOINT THEIR WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK WERE ON A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT PUBLIC POLICY DECISIONS. IN MAY WE ATTENDED A PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION TO HEAR ABOUT THE ZONING ELEMENTS OF ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT WILL BE COMING TONIGHT WE ARE AT OUR WORK SESSION. OUR PLAN THEN IS TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 11TH AND COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 5TH FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AN ORDINANCE CONSIDERATION. THIS TIMELINE TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THE STATE WILL START ISSUING CONDITIONAL CULTIVATOR LICENSES STARTING ON AUGUST 12TH. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR REGULATIONS IN PLACE SO THAT THOSE THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A SOCIAL EQUITY LICENSE CAN KNOW WHAT OUR REGULATIONS HERE ARE IN BLOOMINGTON AND WE CAN REACT TO ANY OR LICENSURE REQUEST THAT MAY COME IN . AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS TIMELINE FOR THIS FIRST ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ,WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO WITH CANNABIS WE ANTICIPATE COMING THIS FALL WITH AN ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AND POLICY DISCUSSION REGARDING USE IN PUBLIC PLACES AND PARKS. AND WE ALSO AS WE'VE BEEN PORING THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE NOTICED A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BRING TO THE CURRENT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS REGARDING CANNABIS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEANING UP OUR CITY CODE AND THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH STATE STATUTE. SO WE DO ANTICIPATE HAVING THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL. WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE ARE STILL WAITING WAITING ON RULEMAKING THE STATE WE ARE STILL WAITING ON A SAMPLE OR CANNABIS ORDINANCE MODEL ORDINANCE FROM THE STATE. SO ONCE WE HAVE THOSE THINGS WE MAY NEED TO DO SOME TWEAKING TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE SO THAT WE CAN REACT TO CANNABIS APPLICANTS AS THEY START COMING IN FOR THOSE CULTIVATOR LICENSES. WE ALSO HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE INQUIRING AND WANT TO KNOW WELL WHAT ARE YOUR SETBACKS? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO? YOU KNOW THEY'RE DOING THEIR INITIAL DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE NEXT YEAR WHEN THE STATE WILL START ISSUING RETAILER LICENSES AND AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER AND SO THIS WILL ALSO HELP US BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS FIRST ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE EMILY COME UP AND WALK US THROUGH THE POLICY QUESTIONS THAT WE VERY BRIEFLY OUTLINE FOR YOU AND NICK KELLY WILL BE JOINING US AT TIMES AS WELL. THANK KRISTINA. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. YES, SO I'M HERE TO ABOUT THE POLICY QUESTIONS. SO THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT SHOULD OUR SENSITIVE USES BE SO FROM WHICH USERS SHOULD BUSINESSES HAVE A MINIMUM SEPARATION? THE STATE SAYS WE COULD TREAT SCHOOLS, AMENITIES AND PARKS WHERE CONGREGATE RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES AND DAYCARES AS SENSITIVE USES SO WE WHEN WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEIR RECOMMENDATION WERE FOR SCHOOLS AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES TO BE SENSITIVE USES AND THE ADVISORY OF HEALTH RECOMMENDED SCHOOLS RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES THE PARK AMENITIES WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE SO THIS SITE IS JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THAT WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT SHOWS ALL THE POTENTIAL SENSITIVE USES AND THEN ALSO THE POTENTIAL BUFFER DISTANCES. I BELIEVE THIS WAS LINKED TO IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE PACKAGE. SO WE'LL GO INTO A FEW EXAMPLES LATER. BUT THIS IS SHOWING KIND OF WHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY THESE SENSITIVE USES WOULD BE . SO THE TABLE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS SHOWING THAT THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED BUFFER DISTANCES THAT THE STATE ALLOWS FOR THESE USES. SO YOU CAN SEE SCHOOLS, YOU CAN HAVE A 1000 FOOT BUFFER AND THEN THE OTHER THREE POTENTIAL SENSITIVE USE YOU CAN HAVE A 500 FOOT BUFFER AND THE RIGHT SIDED TABLE HAS THE EXISTING LICENSE TYPES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND WHAT THEIR BUFFERS ARE FROM SCHOOLS BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE BUFFERS FROM SCHOOLS SCHOOLS . ONE OF THE THE THINGS WE DID IS AS PART OF THE RESEARCH TO ASK OUR SCHOOL PARTNERS WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT SOME OF THE BUFFER ALLOWABLE SO WE ENGAGED WITH THE SCHOOLS HEALTH TEAM AND SOUGHT THEIR FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, THE CHALLENGES AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE A COUNCIL TO HEAR. THEY THEY TALKED TO SOME OF THEIR COLLEAGUES LOOKED AT SOME OTHER STATES AND THEY WOULD THEY WOULD LIKE SOMETHING THAT OUR STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW BUT THEY WOULD LIKE A THOUSAND FEET FOR ANY AGAINST SCHOOLS AND ANY PLACES WHERE WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE REMINDED OF OUR STATE LAW ALLOWS A THOUSAND FEET FOR SCHOOLS AND 500 FOR MULTIPLE OF OTHER SPACES. THANK YOU. OKAY THIS TABLE IS SHOWING AGAIN A COMPARISON OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN THE STATE LAW MAXIMUMS THAT WE CAN HAVE SO YOU CAN SEE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH DIFFERED BUT THEY BOTH AGREED THERE SHOULD BE A BUFFER DAYCARES NEITHER THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE A BUFFER RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES THEY AGREED AND THEN AMENDED AND PARKS PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BUFFER AND THE ADVISORY BOARD HEALTH THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE A 300 FOOT BUFFER. SO HERE IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE PULLED FROM THE GORGEOUS MAP THAT I SHOWED EARLIER. SO THIS THE NATIVITY OF MARY SCHOOL AND IT'S A LITTLE LIKE BY 35 AND 98TH STREET SO YOU CAN SEE SO THE WIDEST CIRCLE IS 1000 FEET THE MIDDLE CIRCLE IS 500 FEET AND THE INNER CIRCLE IS 300 FEET. SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF SEE FROM THIS EXAMPLE WHAT THESE DIFFERENT BUFFERS WOULD EXCLUDE AS THEY GET LARGER. AND THEN HERE IS A PARK EXAMPLE AGAIN SAME THING THE INNER CIRCLE IS 300 FEET AND THE OUTER CIRCLE IS 500 FEET BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAXIMUM FOR PARKS JUST SHOWING WHAT IT WOULD INCLUDE OR EXCLUDE. OKAY SO NOW WE GET INTO THE ZONING USE TYPES SO THERE ARE 14 DIFFERENT LICENSE TYPES THAT THE STATE IS CREATING. SO WE WERE TRYING TO GROUP THOSE INTO ZONING USES THAT WE ALREADY HAD ONE POSSIBLE BUT WE DID CREATE TO NEW USE OR THREE NEW USES AND THOSE THREE NEW USES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE CANNABIS COMBINATIONS BUSINESS CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY AND CANNABIS MANUFACTURE AND WE REALLY CREATED TWO OF THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH APPROVAL SO THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN BE REVIEWING AND APPROVING THESE USES. SO HERE ARE THE USE TABLES SO THE TOP TABLE IS SHOWING EXISTING USES WHERE SOME CANNABIS LICENSES WOULD LIE WE WOULD TREAT CANNABIS RETAIL WITHIN THE ALREADY EXISTING RETAIL SALES AND SERVICES USE TYPE SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE PERMITTED IN WHICH ZONING DISTRICTS THOSE WOULD BE PERMITTED AND THEN THE BOTTOM TABLE IS SHOWING THE NEW USES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE CONDITIONAL USES IN DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS SHOWING THE SAME THING EXCEPT FOR IN NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND WE WOULDN'T BE ANY OF THE THREE NEW HOUSES IN THESE DISTRICTS . SO THE STATE SAYS THAT WE CAN PLACE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS ON CANNABIS BUSINESSES. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DIRECTION FOR THAT SO FAR CURRENTLY OUR MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION FACILITY STANDARDS HAVE THINGS LIKE LIGHTING SECURITY SIGNAGE AND POTENTIALLY THE MIGHT REGULATE THINGS LIKE VENTILATION ODOR WATER USAGE. SO WE ARE WONDERING I GUESS ONE IF NEW STANDARDS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO NEW CANNABIS RELATED USES AND THEN ALSO WHAT THOSE STANDARDS WOULD BE AND THEN LASTLY WE HAVE THE REGISTRATION LIMITATION KRISTINA TOUCHED ON EARLIER BUT THERE ARE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING HERE. SO ONE IS THAT REGISTRATIONS CAN BE LIMITED TO ONE PER 12,500 RESIDENTS FOR CANNABIS RETAIL BUSINESSES. SO THAT'S WITHIN JUST THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO A RULE THAT BLOOMINGTON DOESN'T HAVE TO REGISTER A CANNABIS BUSINESS IF THE COUNTY OVERALL HAS ONE REGISTRATION PER 12,500 REGISTRATIONS. SO THERE'S KIND OF A LIMIT THAT YOU COULD DO AS A CITY JUST FOR RETAIL. AND THEN OVERALL IF THE COUNTY HAS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF REGISTRATIONS, THERE'S LIMITS THAT WE COULD DO BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS. AND JUST TO NOTE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT RECOMMEND REGISTRATION LIMITS . SO HERE ARE THE SIX QUESTIONS WHERE WE ARE REQUESTING FEEDBACK WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH THE SLIDES TO LOOK AT TABLES AND SUCH. I THINK WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE QUESTIONS ONE BY ONE IF THAT'S OKAY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLAN. OKAY, EXCELLENT. SO FIRST QUESTION FROM WHAT SHE SAYS SHOULD CANNABIS BUSINESSES HAVE A MINIMUM SEPARATION? SO I CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDES BUT THIS IS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT EITHER SCHOOLS DAYCARE HOURS, PLACES AND PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES. COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR ME IF YOU WOULD A RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT ARE WE TALKING THE GROUP HOMES IN THE CITY OR WHAT WHAT WE TALKING RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES? YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING LIKE CARE RELATED TO LIKE THEIR ADDICTION AND THEY'RE IN RECOVERY. CHRISTINA YEAH YOU CAN YEAH AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL ASSURE THAT IT IS NOT GROUP HOMES. WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE MANY MORE GROUP HOME TYPE SETTINGS THAT'S NOT THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD TREATMENT FACILITIES SO CITY LIMITED BUT WE HAVE TWO OF THEM TO CORRECT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ANOTHER CLARIFICATION. SO I'M ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES YOU SAID IN THE FALL WE WOULD TALK ABOUT USE IN PUBLIC PLACES AND PARKS BUT THEN HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE FROM PARK AMENITIES AND SO ARE THOSE JUST TWO DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ASSUMING NO USE IN PARKS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUFFER OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUFFER MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS WHERE A BUSINESS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE LOCATED IN RELATION A PARK WHICH WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHERE A USE USE OTHER CANNABIS PRODUCT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN A PARK. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKELY WANT TO CONSIDER IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWING A BUSINESS TO COME WITHIN 500 300 FEET OF A PARK, DO WE WANT HAVE CANNABIS USE WITHIN THE PARK ITSELF BUT? REALLY FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SET BACK FROM PARKS NOW BECAUSE THAT IMPACTS THE LICENSING AND THE ZONING AS WE HAVE APPLICANTS THAT WILL START COMING IN . OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. COUNCILMEMBER LOMOND DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP EARLIER? I DID AND NOW I'M THAT THIS THIS HAS TO DO WITH CANNABIS BUSINESSES HAVING A MINIMUM SEPARATION. OKAY. I THINK I THINK I HAVE A DIFFERENT QUESTION SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE FURTHER DOWN HERE. I THINK I'M GOING TO WAIT ON THAT ONE. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THESE BUSINESSES ARE WE SETTING A SENSITIVE USE MINIMUM SEPARATION FOR ALL OF THOSE 11 TYPES OF BUSINESSES OR ONLY THE RETAIL ONES? MAYOR AND DALLESSANDRO THAT'S FOR OUR OUR RETAIL RETAIL SO SAID ANOTHER WAY IF WANT TO BE A CULTIVATOR AND I'M IN I'M MAKING THIS UP I FIND A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FACILITY FITS WITHIN OUR ZONE AND I'M ABLE TO LIKE LEASE THAT OUT AND. IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS. THIS WOULD NOT APPLY BECAUSE. IT'S A CULTIVATOR LICENSE FOR A AND NOT A RETAIL CITY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER DE LA SOTO THAT IS CORRECT. WE WOULD STILL ZONING REGULATIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS. THANK YOU. SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION HERE, I THINK I AGREE COUNSEL. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK. I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I THINK SCHOOLS AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I'M LESS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS NOTION OF AMENITIES IN PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE JUST BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF AN AMORPHOUS IDEA I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN WE CAN SIMPLY WE CAN SAY PRETTY CLEARLY WHAT A SCHOOL IS, WHAT A TREATMENT FACILITY IS NOT QUITE AS DEFINITIVE ABOUT AMENITIES AND PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE AND SO ON THIS ONE I THINK I WOULD LEAN TOWARD THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION. COUNCIL MEMBER WOMAN I'M ALL UP THERE WITH TIL YOU HAVE THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE CHILDREN THAT THAT TO ME MAKES THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME BUT MY PROBLEM I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT DISTINCTION YOU KNOW FROM THE PARK BECAUSE I GUESS FOR ME IF YOU GET THE PLAYGROUND THERE THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M TRYING TO PROTECT THAT THAT'S THAT SPACE AND I GUESS FOR ME MAYBE IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE BUSINESS BUT BOY I'D HATE HAVE YOU HAVE A PLAYGROUND RIGHT HERE THAT ACROSS THE STREET AS A AS A CANNABIS BUILDING AND SO FORTH GOING ON RIGHT ACROSS THERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THAT THAT I KIND OF I AM I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SEPARATE THAT OUT SOMEHOW BUT YEAH THE OTHER STUFF I'M ALL RIGHT WITH YOU I'M WITH YOU AND I AND I AGREE WITH YOU I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU BUT I THINK I NOTICED IF YOU IF I SAW YOUR MAP I THINK THERE WERE DOTS WITHIN MALL OF AMERICA AND SO I MEAN MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL THOSE ARE EXISTING THC LICENSES ARE OKAY . THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT THE PURPLE IS. I THOUGHT THEY WERE INDICATING AREAS IN IF I MAY MERIT AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN AS FAR AS PARKS AND AMENITIES AND PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WORKING IN OUR FAVOR. THE FIRST IS OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT JUST RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A MASSIVE GIS MAPPING PROJECT OF ALL OF THEIR PARKS. AND SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE EXCELLENT DATA REGARDING WHERE OUR AMENITIES IN OUR PARKS AND WE'RE ABLE TO FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE IF WE DECIDE IF THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DEFINE AMENITIES IN PARKS AS PLAYGROUNDS OR BALLFIELDS OR SOCCER OR WHATEVER THOSE AMENITIES MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN BLOOMINGTON WE'RE VERY EASILY ABLE TO KNOW WHERE THOSE ARE AND TO MEASURE THOSE SETBACKS. SO IN THE CURRENT MAP THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, YOU NOTICE THAT WE DID NOT DRAW LINES AROUND EVERY SINGLE PASSIVE AREA IN A PARK. RIGHT. WE DIDN'T DRAW A BOUNDARY AROUND ALL OF THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT PROPERTY. INSTEAD WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK TAKE A LOOK AT OUR MAPPING DATA AND. WE MAPPED OUT POTENTIAL SETBACKS FROM PLAYGROUNDS FROM AND FROM THINGS LIKE FIELDS, BALL FIELDS, AMENITIES THAT ARE PROGRAMED FOR THINGS THAT CHILDREN USE. AND SO WE COULD IN OUR ORDINANCE DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT THAT AMENITIES IN PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IF IT'S A PLAYGROUND IF IT'S BALL FIELDS AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY AS STAFF TO ADMINISTER THAT FAIRLY EASILY OKAY SO LET'S JUST GO WITH THAT. THAT'S OKAY LET'S YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR LET'S GO WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE MAYOR'S BRINGING FORTH VERY GOOD POINT. SO THE PLAYGROUNDS ARE EASY BECAUSE YOU GOT THE EQUIPMENT BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT BALL FIELDS. THEY'RE KIND OF SHARED SO ADULTS USE THAT AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE KIDS USING THAT. SO WOULD IT BE HOW WOULD WORK BECAUSE THAT'S RIGHT. SO WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING IT'S KIND OF SQUISHY AND THAT'S HOW HOW HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS IT JUST THAT THE KIDS THAT NOW WE DESIGNATE THAT FIELD AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS LONG TERM IF IF IF ADDITIONAL THINGS ARE IDENTIFIED HOW WOULD THAT WORK WITH AN ORDINANCE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY ANY ADULT ONLY FIELDS IF YOU WILL. I THINK MOST OF OUR FIELDS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ARE SHARED BOTH YOUTH AND ADULT LEAGUES AND PROGRAMS AND. SO WE WOULD CONSIDER IF WE WANTED LET'S SAY WE USE SOFTBALL BASEBALL FIELDS SOCCER FIELDS AS ONE OF OUR AMENITIES WITHIN PARKS WE WOULD CONSIDER ALL OF THEM. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD GO DOWN TO AN ANALYSIS OF DO WE HAVE ADULTS HERE? ANSWER NIGHTS OR KIDS OR AND THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THOSE AMENITIES ARE THERE FOR AS WELL AS ADULTS. AND IF WE WERE TO EVER ADD ADDITIONAL IN PARKS I MEAN THEN YOU COULD BE POTENTIALLY PRECLUDING FROM COMING INTO THAT AREA IF THEY DON'T MEET THE SET BACK REQUIREMENT BUT TYPICALLY IN THOSE CASES YOU'RE GOING TO GRANDFATHER IN WHATEVER BUSINESS MIGHT ALREADY BE THERE IF WE BUILT A PARK RIGHT NEXT TO A STRIP MALL THAT HAD ALREADY A CANNABIS BUSINESS WE WOULDN'T SAY OKAY NOW YOU HAVE TO GET OUT RIGHT? SO I WILL SAY BASED ON THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THE GIS WORK THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS DONE I I'M MORE CONFIDENT IN THIS NOTION OF AMENITIES IN PARKS WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE JUST BECAUSE I MEAN IF YOU CAN IF THEY CAN SPECIFY IT VERY CLEARLY WHICH CLEARLY THEY CAN I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT AND YES I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DRAW AN ENTIRE YOU KNOW, AN ENTIRE RING AROUND AN ENTIRE AREA JUST BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE KIDS THERE. SO BUT I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE IT PRETTY SPECIFIC GIVES COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH THANKS MAYOR I GUESS MY PREFERENCE OR THOUGHT MIGHT BE TO TRY TO MORE CLOSELY ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE WITH LIQUOR. THEY'RE BOTH INTOXICATING SUBSTANCE AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP AND I MEAN I SEE A LOT OF THESE AREAS THEY HAVE THC ALREADY IN THEIR LIQUOR STORES AND THEY'RE IN THE AREAS WHERE WE SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE BAD STUFF FOR KIDS AND GOT THE BAD STUFF ALREADY THERE. MAYBE THAT'S NOT A REASON TO PUT MORE BAD STUFF THERE I GUESS BUT YOU KNOW I MEAN IT I DON'T KNOW IF HURT I MEAN I THINK I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT OFTEN NORMAN DALE I MEAN YOU KNOW THERE'S MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS THAT SELL LIQUOR THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE ,THERE'S THC THERE TOO OR NOT REALLY CBD I DON'T KNOW BUT ANYWAY I JUST I PLUS FOR KEEPING THINGS SIMPLE LIKE I JUST MATCH UP WITH LIQUOR AND GO WITH THAT AND THEN STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO LET GO. I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE WRONG STANDARDS BUT IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER. WAS THAT CONSIDERED OR PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS YES THAT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. KEEP IT ONLY TWO SCHOOLS AND TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH LIQUOR AND OTHER LICENSES. COUNCILMEMBER FREEMAN I ECHO NELSON BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS IS LIKE WHY DO WE HAVE TO COMPLICATE IT? KEEP IT THE SAME AS WHAT WE DO WITH LIQUOR AND BEER BECAUSE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS MAP LIKE IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE USES FOR CANNABIS LIKE WHERE WOULD A COMPANY ACTUALLY OPEN UP LIKE YOU CAN'T DO THE FRANCE AND WE'LL TRY TO COPY INTERSECTION ANYMORE WE CAN'T DO THE NORTHERN DEAL IN 84TH OR WHATEVER INTERSECTION ANY MORE LIKE IT IF HAVE THESE OTHER YOU KNOW RESTRICTIONS AND SENSITIVE USES AND WE ALREADY HAVE THIS FOR LIQUOR SO I DON'T SEE WHY WOULD COMPLICATE IT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I'M THANK YOU MAYOR. SO FIRST I JUST HAVE TO TELL YOU IF YOU CLICK ON THAT LINK CAN ACTUALLY GO TO THE GAS MAP AND YOU CAN DO DIFFERENT LAYERS. SO LIKE I TOOK OFF THE CHILD CARE WHICH IS THE LIGHT BLUE AND THEN IT DOESN'T LOOK AS BAD RIGHT IN TERMS OF LIKE LOOK AT THIS THIS MAP YOUR CAN LIKE YEAH WHERE WOULD ONE EVEN GO LIKE WITH ALL THESE BOUNDARIES AND STUFF BUT SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT IF YOU WANT TO PLAY AROUND WITH IT FOR ME WOULD BE MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION I THINK 300 FEET I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THE 300 FOOT ARE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 300 FOOT SETBACK FOR ALREADY ESTABLISHED LIQUOR STORES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO REGISTER BUT MY INCLINATION IS TO GO MORE TOWARD THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH FOR SCHOOLS AND THEN FOR PARKS. I THINK I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE AND UNLESS WE ARE REALLY SPECIFIC LIKE PLAGUE ROUNDS IT'S THINGS THAT ARE REALLY LIKE HER BACK AND IT'S PLAYING HER LIKE ADULTS DON'T PLAY IN THOSE FIELDS SO THINGS LIKE THAT YEAH BUT I WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 300 FOOT SCHOOL IF I APOLOGIZE. MR. MAYOR, JUST A CLARIFICATION. ARE WE ONTO THE BUFFER SETBACKS WE STILL DOING THE WHICH ONE SHOULD GET A BUFFER SETBACK? I THINK WE'RE STILL TALKING SENSITIVE USES BUT WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON TO THE BUFFERS QUICKLY BUT IT'S ALREADY 1015. OKAY MARY CASTLE, I DIDN'T MEAN TO HURT YOU LONG BUT I THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO SEE HOW PARCELS WOULD ACTUALLY BE IMPACTED BY THESE POTENTIAL SETBACKS AND BY HOW MANY. SO THE THE SECOND NUMBER UNDER EACH OF THOSE COLUMNS IS THE NUMBER PARCELS THEMSELVES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED WITH THE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS THE STATE STATUTE MAXIMUM TO JUST GET AN IDEA OF IN PURE NUMBERS WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AS AS OUR OUR BUSINESSES THAT WOULD WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO THESE PRODUCTS OR HAVE THESE LICENSES SO I GUESS GOING BACK TO MY COMMENTS RELATED TO BUFFERS AND THE SENSITIVE AREAS, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL MEMBER BOWMAN YEAH, SO I THINK I'M WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER ON IT. HERE'S MY RATIONALE IS I KNOW THAT THERE'S DISCUSSION OVER AT THE CAPITOL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY MAY WANT PUT IN THERE YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL DRUGS AND YOU KNOW, MUSHROOMS AND THAT KIND OF THING. AND I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING AS THIS STUFF CONTINUES TO ROLL OUT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF WHAT WE'VE GOT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OTHER STUFF. SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I'M AT. SO I'M WITH CUSTOM GUIDELINES WHAT. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THE MAYOR I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH RECOMMENDATION ALLOWS A 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM SCHOOLS FOR OFF SALE LIQUOR STORES IF THEY START TO SELL MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IS CORRECT. THEY FELT THAT BECAUSE OFF SALE LIQUOR STORES ARE ALREADY 21 PLUS ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ALREADY HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THEIR PRODUCT IS NOT BEING SOLD TO MINORS THEY WERE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A LOWER SETBACK AND ALSO THEY WANTED TO BE AS BUSINESS FRIENDLY AS THEY COULD BE AND SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PRECLUDE SOME OF OUR LIQUOR STORES FROM BEING ELIGIBLE FOR HEMP LICENSES. OTHERS WHO WEREN'T WITH WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 300 FEET OF A SCHOOL WOULD BE. SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT RECOMMENDATION CAME FROM. BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE HEMP LICENSES ONLY ARE NOT FOR CANNABIS LICENSES LIKE A DISPENSARY. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. MY BIGGEST CHALLENGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WITH OUR BUFFERS THAT WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT ACROSS USAGE AND IT BUGS THE OF ME TO BE HONEST LIKE HAVING TO DEAL FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE GENTLEMAN AT 90/99 AND LYNDALE IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY FOR HIS TOBACCO FACILITY WILL BE OUT YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF THE ST MARY'S THING HE'S OUTSIDE THE FOR CANNABIS AND IT'S LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DO THAT TO PEOPLE LIKE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. SO MY PREFERENCE I'M NOT SURE I I'M NOT SURE AND AGAIN I 300 500 FEET DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME IN OF LIKE THAT DOESN'T FEEL THAT FAR AWAY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER WOULD BE I GUESS 300 FEET IS 26 PARCELS FIVE PARCELS I DON'T KNOW FOUR PARCELS. I MEAN JUST NOT THAT MANY PLACES ARE AFFECTED BY THAT WHICH SOUNDS OKAY TO ME SO I GUESS I AM A FAN OF A FAIRLY LOW BUFFER I GUESS AND I'D LIKE IT TO BE CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR USE TYPES SO THAT MEANS CANNABIS AND HEMP AND LIQUOR AND TOBACCO SO WE'RE NOT MAYBE NOT GOING TO GET THERE HERE BUT THAT WOULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT IF WE COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH STUFF LIKE THIS NEVER MIND COFFEE SHOPS BECAUSE WE SEEM TO WE SEEM TO HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR THINGS THAT ARE INTOXICATING ON THE STIMULANT SIDE WE DON'T THAN WE DO ON THE STUFF THAT YOU KNOW IS ON THE LIKE YOU KNOW, OPPOSITE SEDATIVE SIDE AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO LIMIT FOR COFFEE AND COFFEE IS ARGUABLY BETTER IS DR. NICK WANTED TO COME UP HERE WE CAN HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ADDICTIVE QUALITIES OF COFFEE . WE DON'T LIMIT THAT AT ALL. RIGHT, SO THERE THERE IS AND EVERY KID IS DRINKING IT BY THE TIME THEY'RE 12 BUT I HAD A I HAD A DECAF I HAD A DECAF IS A DECAF. MY POINT IS MY POINT IS CAFFEINE IS WELL KNOWN BE A THING. SO MY POINT IS I DON'T HAVE A I DON'T HAVE A STATEMENT ON THIS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE LESS THAN MORE AND THAT'S IT. BUT IF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A BUFFER ON ALL OF THESE TYPES I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THAT THE DEBATE EASY TO GET TO AND I CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE HERE. SO VERY GOOD THANKS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER BUT WHERE TO AFTER TEN NOW AND WE'RE IN QUESTION ONE OF SIX THAT WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH HERE ON THIS POLICY DIRECTION REQUESTED COUNCILMEMBER CARD COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WE'LL GET TO YOU WE'LL GET YOU GOALS AND WE'LL GET YOU ALL AND COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT GOES RELATES TO HAVING CONSISTENCY. I WOULD ALSO LOVE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS WHERE YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHEN THEY SET THE 300 FOOT BUFFER FOR LIQUOR BUT IF WE WERE TO SET TODAY I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S LIKE IT'S HARD TO FAST YOU KNOW, LIKE NOWADAYS LIKE YEP BUT WE CAN'T GO BACK AND CHANGE ALL OF THESE THINGS AND WE BUT IT WOULD BE QUITE THE PROCESS I ASSUME. AND SO AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS THAT THEY MADE THOSE DECISIONS BACK THEN BUT GIVEN MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION CRISIS THAT WE HAVE AMONG YOUTH ALREADY IN OUR COMMUNITY LIKE I JUST I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE DISTANCE BE GREAT COUNCILMEMBER. RIVAS I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT. I DON'T THINK I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON ANYTHING BUT I JUST WE JUST I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SOLD. I DON'T EVEN THINK IT SHOULD BE LEGAL. IT IS IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT'S NOTHING I CAN DO BUT I'M STILL SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. WE'VE GOT A FEW YEARS AGO I WAS SITTING OUT THERE WHEN WHOLE THING PASSED I WAS AGAINST THAT THING BUT I MEAN WE GET RID OF TOBACCO. WE ARE ALLOWING SOMETHING THAT IS A LOT MORE MALIGNANT TO PEOPLE AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING IT. I, I JUST FIGURED THAT AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I'M TOTALLY IT ANY WAY YOU CUT IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER NO, NO, NO. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. YEAH. LET IT. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE STILL IN QUESTION 126. YEAH AND I YOU KNOW, SHORT OF KIND OF A SHOW OF HANDS AS TO WE MIGHT WANT TO GO WITH THIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD. MY GUESS IS IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONSISTENT AND COMPLETELY WITH EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH AND THEN FOR THE POOR STAFF HAS TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO THREAD THE NEEDLE RIGHT AND RIGHT IN BETWEEN OF THEM. YEAH I THINK IF WE COULD DO LIKE A STRAW POLL OR RAISE OF HANDS MAYBE WE COULD GO BY SINCE SORT OF USES LIKE WHO EACH OF THESE SHOULD BE INSTEAD OF USE LET'S LET'S START WITH THAT A A SENSITIVE USE US EVERYBODY SCHOOLS DO PEOPLE AGREE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE A SENSITIVE USE? YES. HOW ABOUT ALL RIGHT RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITIES I SUPPOSE AND AND IT'S NOT MUCH AN IMPACT WITH ONLY TWO OF THEM IN TOWN SO AND THEN THE WHOLE AND PARKS THING HOW ABOUT THAT WHAT ARE WE THINKING THERE YES OR NO? OKAY. ASSUMING WE DEFINE THEM, ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE THEM BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HEARD ABOUT, THE GIS AND SO ON. SO I DO THINK THAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AS WELL. SO THAT HELPFUL? YES. ALL RIGHT. NOW LET'START TALKING DISTANCES. WELL, FOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S SUGGESTION TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT, DO WE STICK TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING LIQUOR OR TOBACCO? WHICH ONE WE USE MEANING LIQUOR AND TOXIC SUBSTANCES SOME. SO WHO WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT PERHAPS WE MAKE THEM CONSISTENT WITH LIQUOR? WHAT WHAT IS 308 300 FOR ALL OF THE TYPES? YES. OKAY. I MEAN I DON'T YEAH. 300 OR A THOUSAND I MEAN WHAT'S IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO WALK INTO A STORE THEY'RE GOING TO WALK THAT EXTRA 700 FEET. RIGHT. THAT'S SO I MEAN I WOULD AGREE I WILL RAISE MY HAND AS WELL AND SAY YES, LET'S KEEP IT CONSISTENT WITH OUR LIQUOR AND THEN THEN WE DON'T HAVE CONFLICTING STUFF. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS ONCE AND I WILL NOT SAY IT AGAIN BUT MAYBE I WILL I WON'T SAY IT AGAIN TONIGHT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL APPROACH. I ALSO WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH OR FROM OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR WHY WOULD WE IT'S JUST LIKE BEING ABLE TO WALK INTO A STORE FROM A SCHOOL RIGHT? IT'S ABOUT EXPOSURE AND OTHER THINGS LIKE FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCH. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? WHAT WAS THE DISCUSSION? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING IT'S PRACTICAL, RIGHT? SO JUST THE PRACTICAL APPLICATION AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC HEALTH CONSEQUENCES. I GIVEN WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE THE ADDICTION PEOPLE AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID AND WHAT THE ADVISER I JUST WOULD BE CURIOUS TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION HERE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THE WAY THE THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH WAS THINKING ABOUT IT IS RECOGNIZE AS IN THAT THE THE POLICY LITERATURE ON CANNABIS IS VERY SPARSE WE HAD THE DIRECTOR OF THE CANNABIS RESEARCH CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA COME IN AND TALK TO THE BOARD FOR AN HOUR AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS DOING IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPARE TO ANY OTHER STATE THERE'S VERY LITTLE RESEARCH OUT THERE AND THE BEST PRACTICE AND THE FEEDBACK FROM OTHER STATES RIGHT NOW IS TO REALLY LOOK AT TOBACCO AND LOOK AT THAT FROM A SETBACK IN A PROCESS AND MOST OF THAT IS ON THE GUISE OF IF YOU'RE WALKING BY CONSTANTLY ENGAGED WITH ADVERTISING WITH RETAIL SALES IT REDUCES BARRIERS TO START TO NEGOTIATION. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE RESEARCH THAT'S THERE ON ALCOHOL. KEEP IN MIND ALCOHOL IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF HOSPITALIZATION AND DEATH FROM A SUBSTANCE USE IN THE U.S. TODAY A DIFFERENT PROCESS BUT THE SAME APPROACH AND THAT'S WHERE THE BOARD OF HEALTH WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE CANNABIS SIDE IS WANTING TO FIND THAT BALANCE OF A DISTANCE TO AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE SET BACK TO PREVENT THAT FREQUENT INTERACTION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SIMILAR THE WAY YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT TOBACCO AND IN THE SLIDES HAS THE BUFFERS FROM SCHOOLS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE IT FOR TOBACCO BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS NONE. NO NEW LICENSES MAY BE ISSUED BUT WHAT IS OUR CURRENT SETBACK? IS IT A THOUSAND WE DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A SETBACK? WE THE ADVISORY BOARD OF HEALTH BROUGHT FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS ON SETBACKS COUNCIL PROVIDED A DIFFERENT POLICY DIRECTION TO SUNSET OR NO LONGER ISSUE LICENSES. SO THE SETBACK CONVERSATION BECAME A MOOT POINT. OKAY. AND BEFORE THAT THERE WERE NO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT I DON'T REMEMBER DALLAS DO WE JUST CONFIRM THAT I I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS LIKE A SPECIFIC MEASUREMENT. IT WAS LIKE 250 FEET FROM CORNER TO CORNER 300 FEET OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT CAME UP FOR US WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE PLACE AT 9898 THE LYNDALE THAT WE WERE WHEN WE DEALING WITH THIS BEFORE WHEN THE HEMP DISCUSSION WAS COMING UP AND I DON'T I DON'T KNOW I DON'T WANT TO POINT IT AT NICK AND HIM TO COME UP HERE IT IS THE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PLANNING BUT I WAS I WAS PRETTY SURE THERE WAS SOME MEASUREMENT THAT WE DID DO SO MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER DE LA SANDRA THE INSTANCE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABT WAS A TOBACCO ESTABLISHMENT WAS NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SETBACKS THEY WERE WITHIN 500 FEET ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER TO A SCHOOL RIGHT AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. THEY WANTED TO ADD A HEMP LICENSE A THC LICENSE AND WERE UNABLE TO BECAUSE OUR CURRENT CODE HAS A 500 FOOT SETBACK FOR THC LICENSES. AND SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT ISSUE CAME ABOUT. IT WASN'T THE TOBACCO USE, IT WAS THE ADDITIONAL THC LICENSURE THAT THEY WERE INELIGIBLE FOR. RIGHT. SO BUT THEN I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A MEASURE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MEASUREMENT YOU ALL WERE DOING IN THAT DISCUSSION DIDN'T WASN'T BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EXISTING TOBACCO SETBACK? THAT IS CORRECT IT WAS THE THC SPECIFICALLY SO OKAY. SO THE ONLY REASON THAT THAT TOBACCO RETAILER HAS BEEN ABLE TO EXIST THERE IS ALTHOUGH IF I UNDERSTAND THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF WE HAD HAD A 300 FOOT SETBACK FOR TOBACCO WOULD HAVE BEEN OKAY I THINK IS WHAT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER DE LA SANDRA IF WE WOULD HAVE A 300 FOOT SETBACK FOR THC THEN THEY COULD HAVE SOLD THC THEIR ALREADY EXISTING. YEAH SO YOU'RE MAKING THE SAME POINT I'M MAKING WHICH IS YOU COULD MAKE A TOBACCO YOU COULD MAKE A THC 300 FOOT ONE AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO SELL THEIR AS POINT BECAUSE BECAUSE IT WAS 300 FEET WAS FINE WE MADE ARBITRARILY WE MADE THC 500 AS OPPOSED TO 300 OR NONE. RIGHT. WE JUST PICKED 500 BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE ISSUE I HAD WAS THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IT. IT JUST SHOWED UP AND WE WERE LIKE WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT AS A THING SO MY MY POINT BEING THAT THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS IF WE HAD SAID 300 THEY'D HAVE BEEN FINE NOW NOT FINE AND SO WE COULD CHOOSE TO GO WITH 500 OR 300 OR WHATEVER. MY POINT BEING THAT IF WE DO HUNDRED THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT NOW IF WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH TOBACCO MAYBE OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO SAY THERE ANYWAY I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOING TO RAISE OUR HAND FOR ANOTHER OPTION ON THAT ONE OR NO? I WELL, I THOUGHT WE GOT TO FOUR IN TERMS OF THE MATCHING IN WITH LIQUORS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THE OPPOSING UNLESS I CAN ALSO LIVE IN THEM. ALL RIGHT MOVING ON THE THE ITEM THREE THE ZONING USE TYPES DO WE AGREE WITH THE ADDITION OF THREE NEW CANNABIS RELATED ZONING? I HONESTLY CAN'T SEE WHY. WHAT IS IT PLEASE COUNCILMAN WHAT IS A CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY? IS IT JUST LIKE LIKE QUALITY AND LIKE MAKING SURE IT'S YEAH . MAYOR YES. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IT'S TO OBTAIN AND TEST CANNABIS PRODUCTS. YES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE TO THOSE THREE? WELL TO ADD NEW ZONING TYPES SO WE CAN CONTROL I MEAN ZONING OBVIOUSLY IS STILL A CONTROL BUSINESS USE TYPES AND SO WE HAD THOSE TYPES I MEAN I GET THAT BUT I MEAN COULDN'T YOU DO THAT ON MANUFACTURING OR IS THAT PRECLUDED IN THE MANUFACTURE IN PEACE? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN IT'S NOT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY PRECLUDED BUT THAT'S A SPECIFIC STATE LICENSING TYPE LIKE THEY HAVE TESTING FACILITY AS A LICENSE TYPE THAT THEY'RE HANDING OUT . SO THAT MAY BE ABLE TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH CANNABIS MANUFACTURING. BUT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO SOLELY CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY WE WANT TO HAVE THAT USE. I MEAN I MEAN THE STAFF FEELS IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE JUST MERGING TOGETHER BUT I MEAN I'M NOT GOING TO I MEAN READ AN HOUR HERE BUT I MEAN YEAH WELL AND I MEAN WE'RE GIVING DIRECTION HERE. WE CAN CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AS WE MOVE AND I'M SURE OTHERS WEIGH IN AS WELL. IF I CAN CLARIFY, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN PART OF HAVING A CANNABIS TESTING FACILITY IS IT'S A SEPARATE BUSINESS FOR THOSE THAT ARE MANUFACTURING. SO YOU'RE GETTING ACTUAL LAB VALIDATED RESULTS AS FAR AS THE CHEMICAL COMPOSITION, THE PRODUCTS THAT ARE BEING MANUFACTURED AND SOLD. SO I THINK THAT THOSE USES WILL BE SEPARATE THINGS THAT WE SEE BUILT BECAUSE THE LAW IS SET UP SO THAT IF I'M MAKING THE PRODUCT I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE TEST IT TESTING IT. YES. TO MAKE SURE IT'S ACTUALLY MEETING THE POTENCY REQUIREMENT IT YEAH VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THE FOURTH QUESTION REGARDING ZONING DISTRICTS DO WE AGREE WITH THE PROPOSED LIST OF ZONING WHERE VARIOUS TYPES OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES WOULD BE PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL USES AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ANY HOW QUICK CLARIFICATION WHAT'S A CANNABIS COMBINATION BUSINESS MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IT IS A COMBINATION AGAIN OF A FEW DIFFERENT STATE LICENSE TYPES . THE STATE LICENSE TYPES ARE CALLED MICRO-BUSINESS MEASURE BUSINESS AND THEN A MEDICAL COMPANY COMBINATION BUSINESS WHICH BASICALLY MEANS YOU CAN DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS SUCH AS GROW MAKE MANUFACTURE PACKAGE LABEL LIKE BASICALLY JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS SO WE KIND OF COMPANIES GOTCHA SO SO OKAY THAT'S FINE. I'M FINE WITH THIS. DOES ANYONE A ZONING USE TYPE IN THERE THEY WOULD DISAGREE WITH I'M NOT HEARING NO TO ANY WELL OTHER THAN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS WHO WOULD DISAGREE WITH ALL AND I APPRECIATE THAT KEEPING QUIET VERY GOOD. SO COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SO, I APPRECIATE THE YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION THAT WAY. I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE USEFUL IS TO KNOW WHICH HERE WOULD YOU'D ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE CONDITIONALLY USES WITH SCHOOLS OR DAYCARES UM MAYOR COUNCILMAN LOWMAN SO I BELIEVE SCHOOLS AND DAYCARES ARE MOSTLY LIKE IN OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE I THOUGHT WE HAD SOME ZONES THAT WE JUST RECENTLY ADDED DAYCARES TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN WE DON'T HAVE A SETBACK FROM A DAYCARE THEN THAT COULD BE MOOT POINT BECAUSE THEY COULD BE IN THE SAME LIKE STRIP MALL. WE JUST WE HAD JUST INDICATED THAT WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A SETBACK FROM THE DAYCARE THAT IS YEAH, I KNOW. I THINK I'D WANT TO KNOW I'D WANT TO KNOW WHICH ZONES HAVE THE DAYCARE IT SO BECAUSE THEN I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THEM IN THE SAME SAME ZONE AS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUT IT COULD JUST BE ME AND IF IT WAS JUST ME THEN I MEAN I'LL JUST PULL THAT PIECE OUT AND I WON'T ON THAT. WE'LL MOVE ON. MARIN MEMBERS JUST TO CLARIFY SO THERE'S LIKE I MEAN THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF DAYCARE FACILITIES. THERE'S DAYCARES THAT ARE ACCESSORY TO CHURCHES OR PLACES OF ASSEMBLY OR COLLEGES OR UNIVERSITIES. I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. NO. OR THE COMMERCIAL SETTING. YEAH, THE COMMERCIAL SETTING THAT'S A PRETTY IT'S PRETTY PERMISSIVE IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SO IT'S PERMITTED B1 ,B2 AND BEFORE IS A CONDITIONAL USE INSOFAR A CONDITIONAL USE AND IT'S ALLOWED AS A LIMITED USE WHICH MEANS IT'S RESTRICTED TO 25% OF THE BUILDING IN C1C TO C THREE AND C FIVE SOME MORE OF OUR OFFICE ORIENTED THEN YOU ALSO SHOULD ALSO SCHOOLS THAT CAN BE IN SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS TOO, RIGHT? UH YES. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK. THAT'S MORE I'M ON THE FLY DIGGING INTO SO SO IT'S CONDITIONAL AND IT'S IT'S NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE DECISIONS ARE NOT IN B2 AND BEFORE BUT IT IS ALLOWED AS A CONDITIONAL LIMITED USE AND C1C TO C THREE AND C FIVE AND IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE AND C FOR YEAH. AND I COULD FIND A LOT OF SCHOOLS IN THOSE OFFICE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW BUT IT'S THEORETICAL OR IT COULD IT COULD HAPPEN. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE COUNCILMEMBERS PERSPECTIVE AND POINT OF VIEW AND IT'S MORE SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF THE EXPANSION OF IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO JUST BE CANNABIS IT'S GOING TO BE OTHER DRUGS DO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M KIND OF RUNNING INTO THAT FUTURE PROBLEM SO I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP NOW. SO WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN I WOULDN'T BE HERE WHEN IT HAPPENS BUT JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP SO YOU WAS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE ON THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND ALL RIGHT THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WHAT USE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES NOW DID IT DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEIGH ON THIS OR DID THEY BECAUSE MY MY INCLINATION HERE IS A LIQUOR STORE I MEAN IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, ALL THAT HAS TO GO ON EXTERIOR SIGNAGE SECURITY AND SO ON IT JUST MADE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME TO TO MATCH LIQUOR STORE REQUIREMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO SWITCH SIDES ON THIS ONE AND SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE MAJORITY OF LIQUOR ON THIS ONE. I ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE DO WITH LIQUOR TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S POINT OF VIEW THAT YOU KNOW PEOPLE DRIVING BY WALKING PAST THAT CONSTANT SCENE IT ALL OVER THE PLACE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THAT GO AWAY WITH TO TOBACCO LIQUOR AND THEN NOT IT IN THIS YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S A FAIRLY EASY PART THAT YOU KNOW I DON'T MIND THAT YOUR SCIENCE SAYS YOU'RE A LIQUOR STORE OKAY BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE 30 PICTURES OF PEOPLE HAVING GETTING YOU KNOW, DRINKING RESPONSIBLY, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW I'M OKAY. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO ABOUT ABSINTHE ABSENT LIKE BURN IT ALL AND REDO IT. I WOULD SAY THE STRICTER OF THE TWO WHICHEVER ONE IS MORE STRICT TOBACCO OR ALCOHOL . ALL RIGHT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD ON THIS IS DO YOU STANDARDS INCLUDE SECURITY? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN IT IS IN OUR CURRENT USE STANDARDS FOR MARIJUANA AND DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES. I DO THINK THAT THE SECURITY STANDARDS FROM THAT PROBABLY CAME A LOT FROM THE STATE AND AGAIN I THINK THE STATE HAD CERTAIN REGULATIONS BASED ON THE FACT THAT DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES HAD TO KEEP MONEY THERE. I THINK SO I THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDED BUT ALSO I'M GUESSING THE STATE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I WOULD GUESS SO AS WELL OR NICK WOULD MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT IT ALSO THE MARIJUANA USE CAME SHORTLY AFTER I GOT HERE IN 2015 AND SO THE ONE POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT THAT THOSE STANDARDS THERE ARE YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE OPERATING DOCUMENTS AND SOME COMPONENT OF THAT IS A SECURITY PLAN. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH WASTE? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH ACCESS ALL HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH ALL THOSE THINGS? ONE POINT I WOULD JUST MAKE ABOUT THAT IS THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THIS ISSUE WAS VERY DIFFERENT IN 2015. THERE WN'T ALL OF THESE THC PRODUCTS THAT YOU COULD READ THAT WERE READILY ACCESSIBLE AT MANY DIFFERENT RETAIL LOCATIONS THAT TIME AS WELL AS THE FINANCIAL ISSUE OF HOW TO HOW TO PAY FOR THESE PRODUCTS WITH RESPECT TO THE BANKING REGULATIONS. SO A LOT OF THESE WHILE THERE WASN'T MANY OF THEM THERE WAS ONLY ONE AND THEN I THINK OR ONE OR TWO IN THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BUT THEY WERE ACCEPTING CASH AND THEY WERE THERE WASN'T ALL THESE OTHER PRODUCTS. SO KEEP IN MIND I'M NOT I MEAN I'M IT'S DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK NUMBER ONE BUT THE ENVIRONMENT WAS VERY DIFFERENT JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE AT THAT POINT IN TIME AS TO WHY THERE WAS SECURITY AND OPERATING AND ACCESS AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT STANDARD. SO EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE BUT ARE THE ARE THE BANKING AND CASH ISSUES ARE THEY THE SAME OR HAVE THOSE CHANGED OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS? I'M NOT THAT UP TO SPEED ON THAT I'M GOING TO THEM UP TO YOU CAN GO AHEAD IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAYOR. I WAS JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY SAY THAT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE CHANGED FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH LEGAL TEAM BUT CHRISTINA IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO EXPAND ON THAT PLEASE DO. YES IT'S SIMILAR MIRRORING COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THINK THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT ADVICE TO BANKS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REGARDING BANKING AND FUNDS THAT THEY CAN TAKE IN FROM CANNABIS. SO I DO THINK IT LOOKS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE CONVERSATION WE WERE HAVING. 2015 IS GOOD TO KNOW. I JUST WASN'T I WASN'T SURE I WOULD HOPE THAT IT CHANGED MR. JOHNSON AND CAN I MAKE ONE JUST QUICK POINT AND WE CERTAINLY CAN DO MORE RESEARCH ABOUT THIS BUT TO THE POINT KIND OF THE APPEARANCE OF THESE STORES HAVING JUST THE SIGN ORDINANCE AND THERE ARE SOME FIRST AMENDMENT AND REGULATING SPEECH THE FORM OF SPEECH I THINK CAN DO MORE RESEARCH AND I THINK THE STATE STATUTES MAY HAVE SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SIGNAGE IF I MAY. THE STATE STATUTE DOES SPEAK JUST HAVE ADVERTISING REGULATIONS IN IT INCLUDING REGULATIONS ABOUT MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE TARGETED TOWARD CHILDREN HAVE CARTOON CHARACTERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE EXISTING NOW IN STATE LAW. OKAY. THANK YOU. BALANCING THAT WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT LAWYER STUFF. OKAY. SO SO WHERE DO WE LAND ON THE PERFORMANCE AND GETTING TOBACCO OR ALCOHOL IS EVER MORE RESTRICTIVE AT A MINIMUM AT A MINIMUM. CAN YOU WORK WITH THAT? ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE NOTION OF LICENSE LIMITS SHOULD BLOOMINGTON LIMIT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY THROUGH LICENSING RESTRICTIONS? MY INCLINATION IS PROBABLY YEAH, I THINK THE STATE LIMITS WHAT IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF SEVEN IF WE FOLLOWED THE STATE LIMITS IS ONE PER 12,000 THERE. YES THAT'S FOR RETAIL LICENSES SPECIFICALLY IT'S ONE PER 12,500 RESIDENTS SO THAT WOULD SEVEN F US. YEAH THOUGHTS ON THAT COUNCIL PLEASE REFER TO CLARIFYING QUESTION SO IN YOUR QUESTION YOU SAID THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM RETAIL BECAUSE THIS IS RETAIL ON THE SLIDE BUT IN YOUR QUESTION IS THAT ALL CANNABIS BUSINESSES MANUFACTURING COMBO ALL THE THINGS YEAH MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO YEAH THAT'S WHERE THERE'S KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS SO. WHAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT IS LIMITING THE ONE PER 12,500 BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS IS LIMITED AND SPECIFICALLY RETAIL LICENSE BUT THEN ALSO I BELIEVE YOU COULD LIMIT BASED THE COUNTY NUMBER CANNABIS BUSINESSES OVERALL. SO LIKE YOU'RE SAYING CULTIVATOR THOSE OTHER TYPES OF LICENSES I MEAN YOU CONSIDER COUNCIL WE LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PAWNSHOPS AND IF WE'RE LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PAWNSHOPS I THINK PERHAPS WE CAN LIMIT THE NUMBER OF CANNABIS BUSINESSES IN TOWN AS WELL COUNCILMEMBER I REALLY KNOW BECAUSE TO ME LIKE BLOOMINGTON DID THIS WHEN WE DID LIQUOR WE DECIDED NOT TO DO CITY LIQUOR WHICH ESSENTIALLY LIMITED WHO COULD HAVE LIQUOR STORES IN BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK IT TAKES AWAY MARKET OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO CREATE BUSINESSES IN BLOOMINGTON AND THEN THE MARKETPLACE TO TELL YOU HOW MANY YOU SHOULD HAVE AND WHO SUPPORTS IT. I THINK WE ARTIFICIALLY LIMIT IT WHERE WE'RE HAMSTRINGING A BUNCH OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO COULD POTENTIALLY HERE COUNCILMEMBER MOVEMENT. SO I GUESS MAYBE WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SEVEN RETAIL PIECES BUT WHAT WERE YOU THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES? ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT A LIMITED LIMIT ON THAT OR ARE YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THE RETAIL? I WAS THINKING BOTH. GOOD. COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK THE LIMIT SHOULD BE? I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF I MEAN THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LICENSE POSSIBILITIES. I MEAN HOW MANY CULTIVATORS DO YOU WANT IN BLOOMINGTON? YOU WANT THE YOU WANT ALL OF THE THOSE BIG BOXES DOWN ON ALL GEOGRAPHY ROAD TO BE INDOOR CULTIVATION YEAH YEAH YOU KNOW WHEN YOU PUT IT LIKE THAT YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE IN ALL THE OFFICE BUILDINGS YEAH WELL AND I GUESS THE REASON WHY I'M INTRIGUED BY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S A OF ME THE FREE MARKET PIECE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THAT TOO IS THE YOU KNOW WE HAD WITH THE STORAGE UNITS, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO REPLICATE THAT AND SO ONCE THEY'RE THERE YOU CAN'T KIND OF TURN BACK BUT IF YOU START IF WE START SMALL AND THEN OPEN IT UP MORE, WE CAN ALWAYS OPEN IT UP. SO I THINK I'M A LITTLE BIT I'M LEANING TOWARDS YOU'RE SAYING SO AND WHAT THE EXACT IS I THINK COULD PERHAPS BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SO IF LET'S JUST SAY FIVE OF THE LIQUOR STORES IN BLOOMINGTON ARE COMBO OF LIQUOR STORES AND TOBACCO SHOPS GOT THEIR LICENSES THAT WOULD THEN LEAVE ONLY TWO DISPENSARIES COULD ACTUALLY OPEN IF IF WE'RE ONLY IF WE'RE LIMITING IT TO SEVEN RIGHT YES WELL MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THERE'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION HERE SO HAVE CANNABIS BUSINESSES WHICH ARE THE FULL DISPENSARIES AND THEN WE HAVE HEMP BUSINESSES WHICH ARE THE THC WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THC LICENSES. SO THE SEVEN IS FOR CANNABIS BUSINESSES. SO THAT'S LIKE THE NUMBER OF DISPENSARY IS THE LAW DOESN'T GIVE US EXPRESS AUTHORITY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THE HEMP BASED BUSINESSES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. SO THE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE BUFFERING THOSE CAN BE FOR BOTH USES BUT THE WAY THAT THAT LAW IS WRITTEN, THE ACTUAL LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF ESTABLISHMENTS IS FOR A CANNABIS BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY. SO THOSE ARE THE BUSINESSES WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE IN THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED UNTIL THE STATE STARTS ISSUING LICENSES NEXT YEAR THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT'S PREMIER NELSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. CAN I GET ONE FURTHER CLARIFICATION IN A LIQUOR STORE HAVE A CANNABIS OR CAN IT ONLY DO THE HEMP BASED MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON I DON'T THEY'D MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE A FULL CANNABIS DISPENSARY. OKAY THANK YOU . AND LET ME JUST JUST TELLS MY READERS WELL WHAT IS IT? WHERE ARE THESE TURNING YOUR MICROPHONE? I DON'T REMEMBER. OH OKAY. YEAH SO YEAH I NEVER TURN IT OFF. WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR FULL DISPENSARY MIRROR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STATE STATUTE LAYS OUT BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIRED THAT FULL DISPENSARIES NEED TO MEET IT LAYS OUT DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL PLANS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SO THAT MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE STATE. THERE ARE VENTILATION REQUIREMENTS THAT STATUTE MENTIONS THERE REQUIREMENTS FOR SECURE STORAGE OF PRODUCT WHAT THOSE SPECIFICALLY LOOK LIKE. WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. THE STATUTE SAYS THE STATE YOU KNOW THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT SHALL REVIEW PLANS FOR VENTILATION, FOR STORAGE, FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY DON'T THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED THE RULEMAKING PROCESS YET TO ACTUALLY DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS AND SO WE KNOW THERE WILL BE STANDARDS I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT THOSE VENTILATION STANDARDS LOOK LIKE OR THE SECURE STORAGE STANDARDS LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN WRITTEN INTO RULE YET. WE'RE WAITING THAT PROCESS. THANK YOU. SO WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE THE NUMBER OF LICENSES ? WELL, I MEAN I THINK YOU'VE YOU'VE KIND OF RAISED AN OPTION WHICH IS THE SEVEN AND THE YEAH. WELL DO SEVEN OF EACH OR FIGURING OUT WHERE IT'S AT I. YEAH I THINK I THINK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT I THINK WE DO THE THE ONE FOR 12 FIVE RESIDENTS AND THEN I THINK FOR THE OTHER LICENSES IT PROBABLY REQUIRES A DISCUSSION OF SOME KIND AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER AT THIS VERY MOMENT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON AND IS IT I ALSO DON'T THINK FOR EXAMPLE A CULTIVATION OPERATION I MEAN THERE COULD BE ONE BUT IF IT'S 800,000 SQUARE FEET IT'S IT'S A BIG ONE. YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF THING. SO IT'S A YEAH AND MAYOR I DON'T THINK FOR THE COUNTY RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE WE CAN CHOOSE NUMBERS LIKE SPECIFICALLY BY LICENSE TYPE OR THAT IS CORRECT OKAY IF WE COULDN'T LIMIT THE NUMBER OF JUST CULTIVATION AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL I THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION FROM OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE THE ONLY CITY STRUGGLING WITH WHAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN THERE'S 100 AND HOW DO WE YOU KNOW BECAUSE IT'S A COUNTYWIDE REQUIREMENT BUT WE'RE A CITY TRYING TO TO MANAGE THAT PIECE OF IT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THE ORDINANCE AND AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT ,MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY AND THEN COME BACK WITH THAT AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE PROCESS OF WHAT MAKES SENSE TO THE COUNCIL. AND TELL ME IF YOU AGREE ON THIS GIVEN GIVEN WE WE HAD A BUSY NIGHT IT'S LATE. IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF ZIPPING THROUGH THIS TO ZIP THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW WE'VE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS I THINK AND SOME I THINK TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND THIS A BIT MORE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE BE ALL AND END ALL DISCUSSION THIS I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO GET THIS DONE BY AUGUST TWO TO MEET YOU KNOW THE STATE TIMING BUT I THINK MAYBE GO BACK AND WHAT WE WORK WITH MAYBE WE RUMINATE ON THIS A BIT AS A COUNCIL AND INDIVIDUALLY AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE TO HANDLE THIS GO TO THE THE MAP AND CLICK THINGS ON AND OFF AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE THE YOU KNOW, THE PARAMETERS WOULD BE AND THEN MAYBE CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE SEEM TO HAVE A BIT MORE ENTHUSIASM AND OR A BIT FOR THIS FOR THIS THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE LICENSE LIMITS AND LIKE THE COUNTY AND JUST IT'S VERY CONFUSING AND SO WELL AND MARIN COUNCIL MEMBERS IF I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT OF COMFORT LEVEL TO THE LICENSES THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START POTENTIALLY REACTING TO ON AUGUST 12TH ARE SIMPLY ARE ONLY THE CULTIVATOR LICENSES. SO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN ORDINANCE ON OTHER PIECES AND STILL HAVE SOME THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF COME BACK AND ADDRESS. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND THERE ARE 13 STATEWIDE CULTIVATOR LICENSES FOR SOCIAL EQUITY APPLICANTS THAT WILL BE ISSUED AFTER THAT AUGUST 12TH TIMELINE. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF FOR SURE WE'RE GOING TO GET ONE. WE WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE TIME TO TO RUMINATE ON SOME OF THESE OTHER PIECES THAT AREN'T RELATED NECESSARILY TO THAT. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL WE WE WE KIND OF PUT A PIN IN THIS AND COME BACK TO IT AND WHEN WE'RE WE'VE GOT A BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT THIS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THE ONLY THE SIX QUESTIONS WE ASKED TODAY, THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD AFFECT THOSE CULTIVATOR LICENSES ARE IS THE ZONING PIECE CORRECT? BECAUSE OTHER ONES WERE RETAIL AND BUFFERS AND THEY'RE NOT RELATED CULTIVATORS AREN'T FOR ART RETAIL. RIGHT. SO WE GAVE THEM GOOD CLARITY. WE GAVE THEM GOOD DIRECTION ON THIS. SO YOU YOU'RE OKAY TO GO IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS THAT FAIR AT LEAST FOR THE CULTIVATOR LICENSE PORTION MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS YEAH I FEEL OKAY. OKAY GREAT. OKAY GOOD. THANK YOU. ARE WE GOOD WITH THIS POINT TO BE AT THIS POINT FOR NOW AND I'M FEELING VERY MELLOW GOOD. WELL I DON'T WANT TO HURT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL WE WILL WRAP UP OUR EVENING THIS AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH ITEM 5.3 OUR CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE THE FIRST THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECAP IS OUR CITY COUNCIL LISTENING SESSION. WE HAD WE HAD A FULL HOUSE AGAIN TODAY I THINK WE HAD SIX DIFFERENT SPEAKERS. SALLY NESS SPOKE ABOUT LIGHTS AND ACCESS AT DAR AL FAROOQ. MATTHEW HALLORAN HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND SUGGESTIONS REGARDING THE WATER PARK AT AT THE MALL OF AMERICA AND TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT THE OUTDOOR RECREATION ECONOMY AND POSSIBILITIES THERE. CHERYL CROSS AND SHEILA BARRY WE HAD HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ISSUES WITH THE BLOOMINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT ,SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND ENFORCEMENT INVOLVING THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT I KNOW THAT WE COULDN'T FOLLOW UP BECAUSE IT'S ONGOING ISSUES WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SO AT AICE OF CHIEF HODGES IT WAS MORE OF A LISTENING LISTENING RATHER THAN ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR AND THEN WE HEARD FROM MARK MORROW WHO'S A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JEFFERSON ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION AND JOHN ANDERSON WHO'S THE ACTIVITIES DIRECTOR AT KENNEDY HIGH SCHOOL, BOTH OF WHOM SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THE STADIUM PROJECTS AT KENNEDY AND JEFFERSON AGAIN, AS I SAID, A FULL HOUSE. IT WAS IT WAS BUSY SO BUT A GOOD EVENING JUST ALDERMAN LIKE YOU AS MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS I'LL START AND THEN I'LL PASS IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER BROOKIE. ONE QUICK UPDATE. THIS MORNING OUR BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA TRAVELED TOURISM HOSTED A LARGE DELEGATION OF AROUND 30 INTERNATIONAL LEADERS FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE CITIES PUBLIC DISASTERS AND PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS. THEY ARE TRAVELING ACROSS THE U.S. AND BLOOMINGTON WAS ONE OF THEIR STOPS SO I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND AND SUPPORT TEAM THIS WAS ORGANIZED AND COORDINATED BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE, MINNESOTA AND THE MET COUNCIL AND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH ADMINISTRATOR DR. KELLY AS WELL AS A MASTER OF SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR AND SERVICE DIRECTOR DIANE KIRBY PRESENTED FOR THE GROUP FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF TO SHOWCASE NOT ONLY OUR CITY BUT ALSO HOW WE COORDINATED COMMUNICATED AND COLLABORATED TO PRIORITIZE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING AND RESILIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY DURING A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY THE GROUP WAS FULLY ENGAGED AND THEY ASKED A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS SO KUDOS TO NICK AND EMMA WHO REPRESENTED BLOOMINGTON VERY WELL THIS MORNING. VERY WELL. THANK YOU MR. BRUEGGEMANN THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND FOLKS WHO MAY BE WATCHING WHERE STAR-TRIBUNE IS REPORTING ON SOME NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLOOD WARNINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE STATE. THERE ARE SOME AREAS OF MINNESOTA THAT WILL GET ANOTHER SIX INCHES OF RAIN BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK AND THERE'S FLOOD WARNINGS THROUGH TOMORROW NIGHT AND IT'S A GOOD TIME TO JUST ISSUE A REMINDER THAT FIRE CHIEF LUCILLE IS ALSO OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR WANTS EVERYBODY TAKE GOOD CARE AROUND OUR CREEKS AND RIVERS. HE'S BEEN CHECKING ON THE WATER LEVELS IN NINE MILE CREEK FOR THE MOST IT'S STILL WITHIN THE BANKS. THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE WE'RE SEEING FLOODING BUT IT'S NOT HOMES RIGHT NOW DOWN AT THE MINNESOTA RIVER WHERE THE CREEK FEEDS INTO THE RIVER BECAUSE THE RIVER IS HIGH, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT BACKED UP THERE BUT BOTH THE CREEK AND THE RIVER ARE REALLY FLYING RIGHT NOW AND SO WE JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE TO BE SAFE, TO NOT GO INTO FAST MOVING WATER AND YOU'RE DRIVING AND YOU SEE STANDING WATER. DON'T APPROACH THAT BECAUSE USUALLY THAT'S WHEN YOU GET INTO TROUBLE AS WELL. SO OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS WE'RE GOING TO BE KEEPING OUR EYES ON IT IF. THERE'S MORE TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT. BUT JUST WANT TO REMIND THAT IT'S WET. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RAIN CREEKS ,RIVERS ARE HIGH AND FOLKS SHOULD TAKE EXTRA CAUTION WHILE THEY'RE OUT AND ABOUT IN THOSE AREAS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MR. BRILLIANT. I'LL JUST ADD ON ALSO WITH THE HEAVY RAINS IF YOU NOTICE YOUR STORM DRAINS THEY'RE CLOGGING UP ON THE STREETS. AND SO IF GET AN OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL AND OTHERS WATCHING GET OUT AND CLEAN OUT THE STORM DRAINS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEBRIS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND IT WOULD ALSO THAT'LL LEAD TO THE STREET FLOODING SO KEEP THEM CLEAN IF YOU'RE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. COUNSEL ON A QUESTION FOR MR. BRUGUIERE MR. HOLTZMAN COUNSEL ANYTHING TO ADD TONIGHT? COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COUNCIL AWARE IN THE COMMUNITY AWARE THAT I REACHED OUT TO STAFF AND THEY HELPED ME FORWARD A REQUEST TO THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY TO COME IN AND SPEAK WITH US AT SOME POINT AND AT THIS POINT THAT HAS BEEN DENIED. SO I JUST WANTED TO REPEAT PUBLICLY SO PEOPLE WERE AWARE THAT THAT REQUEST HAD BEEN MADE. I KNOW MANY, MANY COUNTRIES LARGE BUT I ALSO THINK THAT BLOOMINGTON IS IN SOMEWHAT OF A UNIQUE POSITION GIVEN OUR GEOGRAPHY WITH ALL OF THE FREEWAYS, WITH THE AIRPORT, WITH MALL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THATTHER COMMUNITIES NECESSARILY DEAL WITH THAT INTERACT VERY DIRECTLY WITH. THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THINGS YOU KNOW FROM ,MAJOR CRIMES TOP DOWN. SO WE'RE VERY UNIQUE AND DO PART OF THE REASON I WANTED TO DO THAT IS ALSO OUR OTHER ELECTED COUNTY OFFICIALS COME AND TALK TO US AND AS WE SAW TODAY AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GROUP THAT CAN ASK QUESTIONS, GET INFORMATION AND HAS ALWAYS DONE RESPECTFULLY AND PROFESSIONALLY. AND SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY I THINK JUST FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR. I ALSO RAISED IT BECAUSE I GET QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I CAN'T ANSWER THEM. I CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS THEY I MEAN WE HAVE THIS AMAZING POLICE FORCE THAT DOES A GREAT AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? I, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEONE COME EXPLAIN IT, TALK TO ME SO I CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TO US AND TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE PUBLICLY THAT I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY COULD MAKE SOME TIME TO COME AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN IN HER OFFICE AND IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND YOU CAN'T REMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN MAKE A MORE FORMAL ASK AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD REMINDER THAT PREVIOUSLY AND I'VE BEEN COUNTY ATTORNEY FREEMAN WOULD COME VISIT WITH US NOT JUST COUNTY COMMISSIONER GOODELL AND IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO HEAR FROM OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AND AT THE STATE WITHOUT QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL THERE ANYTHING ELSE AS EVENING IF NOT HAVE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA AND I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I YES THE MOTION CARRIES IT SEVEN ZERO THANKS MUCH COUNSEL GOOD DISCUSSION TONIGHT THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED FROM THE PUBLIC GOOD MEETING TONIGHT THANKS