>>COUN. LEWIS: THE 16th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA WILL BE JOINING US ON ZOOM. WE'LL START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: CIVIC PARKING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC YOU CAN OBTAIN AT THE TABLE NEAR THE EPTERANCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON, AND ON LIVE STREAMS THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16, GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES AND TABLETS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THAT SERVICE AT ANY TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF MEMBERS NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THEM ONLINE, CALL 5 # -- THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT 7 P.M. THIS EVENING IF NEEDED. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S MEETING TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS, PLEASE NO APPLAUSE OR OTHER OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL BE SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILORS, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROCLAMATIONS, SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THESE AND GET TO THE FIRST PART OF OUR AGENDA AND TRY TO GET TO FINAL ACTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK. AROUND 7 OR SO. IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, ANY OF OUR BILLS, OR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, I THINK ABOUT 80 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY. OUR PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE LIMITED TO ONE MINUTE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HEARD TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY TONIGHT ON ALL THE BILLS AS WELL AS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE'S A QUESTION IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP, YOU CAN COME TALK TO OUR STAFF AND SEE WHERE YOU'RE AT THE LIST. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK HARD TO GET TO THROUGH THE MEETING AS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN BEFORE BILLS AND FINAL ACTIONS. WE'LL START WITH PROCLAMATIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL RECOVERY MONTH. ACCEPTING THIS EVENING ARE MADISON McCOOL, AND RENÉ MARTINEZ. GOOD EVENING. WHEREAS, RECOVERY MONTH IS A NATIONAL OBSERVANCE HELD EVERY SEPTEMBER TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE PREVENTION, TREATMENT AND RECOVERY OF SUBSTANCE USE AND MENTAL HEALTH AND PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE INDIVIDUALS IN RECOVERY, INDIVIDUALS SEEKING RECOVERY AND DEDICATED SERVICE PROVIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MAKE RECOVERY POSSIBLE. WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE ADMINISTRATION, THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE INVITE ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO HONOR AND PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL RECOVERY MONTH EVENTS DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. AND WHEREAS THE COLLABORATIVE OF LOCAL RECOVERY ADVOCATES INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE, COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, BERNALILLO COUNTY, AND THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO HAVE ESTABLISHED ALBUQUERQUE CELEBRATES RECOVERY TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE SEPTEMBER RECOVERY MONTH. AND WHEREAS ALBUQUERQUE CELEBRATES RECOVERY AIMS TO REDUCE STIGMA BY ENHANCING PUBLIC AWARENESS, INCREASING ACCESS TO RECOVERY SUPPORT AND ADVOCATING FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH SUBSTANCE USE AND MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES AND SUPPORTS COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT PROVIDE AN AVENUE TO SUSTAINED LONG-TERM RECOVERY WHILE FOCUSING ON ACCEPTANCE, EMBRACING ALL PATHS THAT LEAD TO RECOVERY. AND BUILDING STRENGTH IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND WHEREAS ALBUQUERQUE CELEBRATES RECUV RAY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAVE SHARED UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RIGHT TREATMENT, SUPPORT AND RESOURCES RECUVVY POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE. THEREFORE THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROCLAIMS SEPTEMBER, 2024 IS NATIONAL RECOVERY MONTH IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. [ APPLAUSE ] >> WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYPLACE TO ATTEND. WE'LL HAVE A HUNDRED VENDORS ON CIVIC PLAZA ON THE 26th FROM 10 TO 2, IT'S OPEN AND FREE. WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF GOODIES. WE HAVE -- DO YOU WANT TO THEM THEM -- >> THIS INFORMATION GIVES YOU MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE RECOVERY CELEBRATION EVENT. THIS IS OUR NINTH ANNUAL EVENT. WE'VE HAD EVERY YEAR IN THE CIVIC PLAZA. IT'S A GOOD WAY TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE SEEKING RECOVERY, PEOPLE ARE IN RECOVERY AND PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT SOMEONE IN RECOVERY, BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'LL ALL TOUCHED IN SOME CAPACITY IN SUPPORTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE IT. COME UP THIS WAY, AND I'LL CONGRATULATE YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT PROCLAMATION. THIS IS RECOGNIZING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. WE HAVE SOME FOLKS ACCEPTING THAT PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. MR. ORLANDO MARQUEZ. WE HAVE COUNCILOR PEÑA WITH THE PROCLAMATION FOR YOU ALL. COUNCILOR PEÑA, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM SAY A FEW WORDS AND SPEAK AND WE'LL HAVE THEM DO THE PROCLAMATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, SINCE I'M NOT THERE IN PERSON AND THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, I WAS HOPING THE COUNCILORS COULD ACTUALLY READ A SECTION OF IT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, IF COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR BACA CAN MAYBE SPLIT IT IN HALF AND READ THE PROCLAMATION. I JUST WANT TO THANK THESE VAJS. THEY THESE INDIVIDUALS. THEY HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY WORKED FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO KEEP OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE ALIVE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THE COUNCILORS WILL ASK YOU TO SPEAK AFTER THE PROCLAMATION IS READ. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE LOCATING A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION WE ALL SIGNED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUING US TO SPEAK TODAY. AS WAS MENTIONED, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE NEW MEXICO HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE. I WELCOME OUR BOARD MEMBERS MONICA NUNEZ, AND BEATRIZ VALENCIA. SEPTEMBER 14, THROUGH OCTOBER 14 STARTS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. AND THE NEW MEXICO HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SPEARHEADING THIS BASED OUT OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR 20 YEARS. OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE PROMOTE AND CELEBRATE HISPANIC, AND LATINO HISTORY AND CULTURE AND SUPPORT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING. WE HAVE THE ANNUAL KICKOFF ON SEPTEMBER 5th. I WOULD LIKE TO SEND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR ROGERS, AND COUNCILOR BACA FOR THEIR PRESENCE AT THAT KICKOFF THAT WAS ATTENDED WITH GREAT, GREAT ENTHUSIASM AND CELEBRATION FOR WHAT IS A SPECIAL TIME FOR HISPANICS AND LATINOS AND CHICANOS AND WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO IDENTIFY AS. OUR JOB IS TO CELEBRATE OUR AMAZING CULTURE THAT IS DEEPLY INFUSED NOT ONLY IN THIS COMMUNITY BUT FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION AND THE SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. AND WE'RE VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT WE'VE HAD FROM CITY COUNCIL FOR THE DURATION OF THIS COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL. WE HAVE LOTS OF EVENTS PLANNED. THERE'S A CALENDAR OF EVENTS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SITE. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, ONCE AGAIN, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE NEW MEXICO HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR BOARD. I KNOW YOU WORK EXTREMELY HARD TO PULL THIS OFF. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION IN FRONT OF YOU? WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ IT? >>COUN. PEÑA: I APOLOGIZE. I'M LOOKING FOR IT. I CANNOT SEEM TO FIND THE PROCLAMATION. I THOUGHT IT WAS PROBABLY ON THE DAIS. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. I APOLOGIZE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GET A COPY OF THAT TO YOU. WE SIGNED IT. IT SAYS THIS MONTH IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO FIND WAYS TO PUBLISH THAT AND GET THAT TO YOU AND REALLY CELEBRATE THIS MONTH WITH YOU. >> THANK YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WILL -- YOU CAN CALL THEM UP IN A MINUTE, IF THEY STICK AROUND, OR WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR ALLOWING MORE THAN TWO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING. WE NEED A VOTE TO -- TWO-THIRDS VOTE. SDMRL MOTION . >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 40th ANNIVERSARY OF OPEN SPACE. THE DIVISION OF PARKS AND RECREATION, ACCEPTING THIS EVENING ARE DAVE SIMON, THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, PAULINA, DENNIS VASQUEZ. AND WE ALSO HAVE THE CHAIR OF THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD. >> DON METERS. >>COUN. GROUT: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS REAL QUICK FIRST? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR GROUT, JUST GRATITUDE. REALLY. FOR ALL THE SUPPORT FOR THIS OVER THE YEARS. AND GRATITUDES FOR ALL THERE EMPLOYEES PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURES AND THE VOLUNTEERS WE'VE HAD THAT BUILT THIS PROGRAM OVER FOUR DECADES. EXEMPLIFIED BY THE OPEN SPACE ADVISORY BOARD WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT BOARD IN THE CITY, WITH IMPORTANT DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE BOARD. THE PROGRAM IS GOING VERY WELL. WE GAVE YOU TODAY A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE STATUS OF THE PROGRAM. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT ALL THAT FOR YOU. I THINK THE FOUNDATION OF THE PROGRAM IS STRONG. THE DIRECTION IS GREAT. AND WITH YOUR SUPPORT AND THE CONTINUED GREAT SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MANY MORE BRIGHT YEARS FOR THIS UNIQUE NATIONALLY-LEADING PROGRAM. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION. WE'RE VERY BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES FOR US ALL TO ENJOY. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS A MAJOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE SYSTEM ENCOMPASSING ICONIC AND IMPORTANT PHYSICAL LANDMARKS AND CULTURAL LANDSCAPES THAT INCLUDE THE SAPPEDIA FOOTHILLS, RIO GRANDE BOSQUE, VOLCANO WEST MESA, ARROYOS, FOUR HILLS, EAST MOUNTAIN PROPERTIES AND AGRICULTURAL LANDS IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY. WHEREAS, THE SYSTEM IS MANAGED TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY AND QUALITY OF THE REGION NATURAL AND CULTURAL FEATURES AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSETS AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION AND EDUCATION. WHEREAS THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE SYSTEM CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY'S LIVEABILITY AND CREATES A SENSE OF PLACE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. WHEREAS ALBUQUERQUE HAS 30,596 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. MAKING IT ONE OF THE LARGEST MUNICIPAL OPEN SPACE PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY. WHEREAS, THE MAJOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE PROGRAM IS MANAGED BY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, OPEN SPACE DIVISION, AND THE PROGRAM IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED FOR ITS VISION, AND MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC LAND WITHIN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. AND WHEREAS THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1984 AND CELEBRATING 40 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF ALBUQUERQUE AND TO THE PUBLIC LANDS IN ITS CARE. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF OPEN SPACE AND THE CITY'S IDENTITY AND THE RESIDENTS PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL WELL BEING AND CELEBRATES THE 40th AN VARSRY -- ANNIVERSARY OF THE OPEN SPACE DIVISION. CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [ APPLAUSE ] >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON TO TWO BRIEF PRESENTATIONS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS FROM THE SUSTAINABLE LIVING OFFICE. ALICE MAIN WHO THE GRANT MANAGER ASKED TO GIVE A PRESENTATION AND GIVE UPDATE ON THE CLIMATE PROTECTION GRANT. ALICE, COME ON DOWN. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY RESIDENCE, PRESIDENT LULU I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMPLEX GRANT THAT I MANAGE. AND IT'S UPCOMING DELIVERERABLE COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. I THINK FOLKS CAN SEE. THE PROGRAM IS CALLED THE CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT PROGRAM. OR CPRG. THIS IS A GRANT BY THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. THE FIRST GRANT IT HOUSES IS A PHASE ONE PLANNING GRANT. THIS WAS AWARDED TO THE CITY ALONG WITH 48 STATES, 79 OTHER METRO AREAS, AND 94 TRIBES AND TRIBAL PARTNERSHIPS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO. COVERING A WHOPPING 97% OF THE U.S. POPULATION. TO DATE THIS FOUR-YEAR PLANNING PROGRAM HAS SPURRED NATION-WIDE DEVELOPMENT AND INTERAGENCY AND INTERDEPARTMENTAL PARTNERSHIPS, SHOVEL READY PROJECTS, AND A MASSIVE COMPETITION FOR PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS. THE SECOND GRANT IN THIS PROGRAM. WITH THIS PHASE TWO COMPETITION NOW DONE IN BOND, ALL PLANNING AWARDES ARE STARTING THE MAJOR DELIVERERABLE OF THE PHASE ONE PROGRAM WHICH IS A CLIMATE -- COMPREHENSIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THIS PLAN WILL BE A STRATEGIC DOCUMENT OUTLINING PROJECTS, PROGRAMS AND POLICIES THAT BOTH UPLIFT FRONTLINE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND REDUCE CLIMATE POLLUTION. I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING GREAT ANOTHER PLAN, BUT IN MY REMAINING TIME I WANT TO SHARE WHY THIS INITIATIVE IS SPECIAL. SO, YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE NATIONAL MAP, BUT THIS IS OUR REGIONAL ONE. YOU CAN SEE THAT NEW MEXICO HAS SIX PHASE ONE AWARDEES. THAT MEANS 207 ENTITIES NATIONAL LOW AND SIX LOCALLY HAVE RESOURCES TO KEDIDATE TO CLIMATE PLANNING AND ARE WORKING TOWARD THE SAME DELIVERERABLES. TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION. SECOND, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE CITY'S SCOPE WORK IS THE ENTIRE METROPOLITAN AREA. THIS AREA SHOWED IN RED. THIS MAY BE CHALLENGING. IN SOME WAYS. BUT IT REALLY PROVIDES THE CITY AN IMMENSE OPPORTUNITY TO DEEPEN OUR REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP ACROSS POLLINATE IDEAS AND APPLY A STRENGTH AND ULTIMATELY UPDATE OUR 2021 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. THIRD, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW TECHNICAL COMMUNITY-DRIVEN AND DATA INFORMED THE DELIVERERABLES ARE. YOU CAN SEE ON IT RIGHT-HAND SIDE. IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE SCIENTIST THAT DESIGNED THIS. AND LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IF THIS IS DONE RIGHT, I BELIEVE THIS PLANNING GRANT WILL BE A MASSIVE INVESTMENT TOWARD OUR FUTURE AND THE NEXT ECONOMY. WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE ALIGNMENT WITH JOBS, ACCESS FUNDING, CONSERVE RESOURCES, AND SHOWCASE ALBUQUERQUE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AS A CASE STUDY HOW TO BUILD A THRIVING CIRCULAR ECONOMY IN A THAT IS BOTH ENVIRONMENTALLY SOCIALALLY AND ECONOMICALLY JUST -- I STAND FOR QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION. THANKFUL FOR YOUR PRESENCE. NEXT WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, TONIGHT I WANT TO HEAR FROM -- WE HAVE JODY AND A COUPLE GUESTS. EPIC PATHWAYS IS AN AMAZING NONPROFIT THAT IS REALLY WORKING ON FOCUSING ON THE TREATING THE ACUTE NEEDS OF THE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS. I WANTED US TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AND HOPEFULLY SEE HOW THE CITY CAN MAKE SURE TO PARTNER WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD AS ANOTHER NONPROFIT. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE. I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND CO-FOUNDER. I WANT TO INTRODUCE -- >> I'M THE CO-FOUNDER AND CO-OWNER OF -- WHICH IS ON CENTRAL AND TRAMWAY. >> GREAT. WE HAVE A LITTLE POWERPOINT FOR YOU. I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION AGAIN. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE JUST IDENTIFY THAT WE'RE ONE MORE OPTION FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH HIGH ACUITY NEEDS. WE'RE TRANSITIONAL LIVING CAMPUS. SO, NOT SURE HOW I -- WHERE I'M GOING HERE. WE DO HAVE FIVE MAIN, DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT ARE OUR FOCUS. BEFORE I GO THERE, AND JUST BASED ON TIME, SO FOR THE LAST 23 YEARS I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY SAFETY AND NONPROFITS. I HAVE OVER 15 REPORTS THAT ARE EVIDENCE-BASED, DATA-DRIVEN SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, EXCUSE ME, AND THE REASON I MENTION THAT IS THIS IS EMPITOUS FOR EPIC PATHWAY. WE KNOW BASED ON THESE REPORT AND THE DATA THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION TO SERVE THOSE MOST ACUTE. AND THAT WE CAN DO THIS. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO NOW BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. I CAN'T -- I APOLOGIZE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO READ FROM THERE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. ARE YOU ABLE TO READ IT? OKAY. OUR STRATEGY IS HEALTH AND SAFETY. I CAN'T READ ON THAT ONE. I'M SORRY. RESOURCE PRIORITIZATION AND ALLOCATION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. HUMANITARIAN APPROACH, I THINK THIS IS ABOVE ALL ELSE -- TIME? OH, I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE. I'M SORRY. AND THE COMMUNITY WELL BEING, AND THEN WE HAVE THE LAST ONE THERE, JUST THE COST EFFECTIVENESS. IN THESE REPORTS, FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS IT CONTINUOUSLY SHOWS NOT ONLY IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IT'S THE SMART THING. WE HAVE TO BE WORK SMART. WE NEED TO BE MORE STRATEGIC AND INTENTIONAL IN THE WAY WE GIVE INDIVIDUALS HOPE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY TO GET OFF THE STREETS. THIS IS SOME SLIDES. AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU HOP IN ON THAT. I CAN STEP BACK. >> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING IN AND GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT WE CREATED HERE. THESE ARE THE BEFORE PHOTOS. WE ACQUIRED THE MOTEL IN FEBRUARY OF 2024. IT'S FEDERALLY SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN FEBRUARY AND JULY. OUR DOORS WERE OPEN AND TOOK OUR FIRST CLIENT WHICH WAS FROM BLUE CROSS, BLUE SHIELD. THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS NOW. YOU CAN SEE IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. WE GUTTED THE ENTIRE FACILITY. WE RE-DID THE WIRE, WE RE-DID THE PLUMBING, WE DID ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT CONTRACTORS KNOW THE LINGO FOR BUT I DON'T, MY BACKGROUND IS MEDICINE. AS YOU CAN SEE, SO FAR IT'S SINGLE OCCUPANCY. SOME ROOMS ARE LARGE ENOUGH FOR DOUBLE OCCUPANCY. 33 ROOM FACILITY. AND WE HAVE OTHER LARGER ROOMS FOR SOCIAL REHABILITATION PROGRAMS WERE CAREER DEVELOPMENT, CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS, READING AND WRITING, ARTS AND CRAFTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. >> YOU CAN SEE, WHICH I'M VERY, VERY PROUD OF. THE BATHROOM ON THE RIGHT. WE HAVE SEVEN ADA BATHROOMS OR ROOMS. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS IN WHEELCHAIRS OR AREN'T ABLE TO ACCESS THE BATHROOMS. THAT WAS REALLY KEY AND TENSIONAL TO BUILD THIS OUT. >> THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO TELL THE CLIENTS THAT STAY WITH US IS THIS IS NOT A SHELTER. THIS IS NOT -- THIS IS A PROGRAM AND PARTICIPATING IN HERE SHOULD ALLOW FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ON THEIR OWN FEET. GET FINANCIALLY STABLE AND ALSO END UP WITH PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WHICH WE WILL WALK THEM THROUGH. WE'RE HOPING IN SIX MONTHS TO ONE YEAR THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. THEY WILL PRAIT -- PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE FOR THEM. AND THE CLINICIANS WILL HELP THEM AND HAVE FOR THEM. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE'RE . >> WE'RE OPERATING OFF THE BLUE CROSS CONTRACT, AND THE TWO REFERRALS ARE GROM THE GATEWAY SHELTER, GATEWAY WEST, AND WE A GENTLEMAN FROM RATON, NEW MEXICO HOSPITAL TO AOC RESPITE. WE HAVE ONE FROM UNM IN-PATIENT AND AN FROM ALAMOGORDO. BLUE CRASS BLUE SHIELD IDENTIFY TEN HIGH USERS WITHIN THE SYSTEM WHO ARE SIGNIFICANTLY IN AND OUT OF THE HOSPITALS, JAIL, AND THEY MAKE THOSE REFERRALS BASED ON LEVEL OF ACUITY. AND OUR TRANSITION PLAN INCLUDES A VARIETY OF TRANSITIONS. IT TAKES TIME. IT'S BASED ON INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. THERE'S A SPECTRUM OF ACUITY AND A SPECTRUM OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLACEMENTS INCLUDING GROUP HOMES, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND WE'RE SEEING A NEED FOR HOSPICE CARE. THIS CAN LAST FROM ONE TO TELEVISION -- TWELVE MONTHS. WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH UNM MOBILE MEDICINE. AND WE HAVE OUR CLINICIANS AND OUR NAV GATORS AT -- A MULTI DISCIPLINE TEAM THAT FOCUSES ON CONTINUITY OF CARE. THAT WAS REALLY QUICK AND IN A NUTSHELL. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU SAY, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SUMMARIZE THIS. THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT DID GO VERY FAST. WOULD YOU SAY EPIC PATHWAYS IS TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITY THAT FOCUSES ON TREATING THE NEEDS OF UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS WITH HIGH ACUITY NEEDS? >> YES, MA'AM. IDENTIFYING THAT THERE'S A SPECTRUM OF ACUITY UNTIL WE GET FUNDING FOR SUPPORTING. WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE MEDICAL ON STAFF, 24-7. WE WILL GET THERE. THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE STAFFING WE HAVE ON-SITE. THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. >>COUN. BASSAN: OKAY. AND MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST -- ONE MORE QUESTION TOO. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO HELP UP TO 90 PEOPLE IS THE CAPACITY? IS THAT WHAT I RECALL FROM OUR CONVERSATION? >> WITHIN A YEAR, YES. BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TRANSITION OUT. AND DEPENDING ON FUNDING, YES. IN THOSE REFERRALS, THEY CAN COME FROM THE SHELTERS, FROM STREETS, IN THESE REPORTS THERE'S REALLY GOOD REPORTS WE DID ON ENCAMPMENTS AT CORONADO PARK AND FIRST AND INDIAN SCHOOL THAT SHOWED PATHWAYS FROM STREETS TO MOTELS TO HOUSING IT CAN BE DONE. THAT'S PART OF THIS AS WELL. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, ONE FINAL THING. COUNCILORS, THIS IS WHERE STREET CONNECT WAS BORN. STREET CONNECT, AND THEY'RE TRIED AND TRUE. THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY POSITIVE OUTCOMES. NOT JUST STUDIES, IDEAS OR PLANS, WHICH ARE ALL GREAT FOR THE MOST PART. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY HOPE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CAN FIND ROOM IN THE BUDGET FOR BECAUSE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ACTUALLY HELPING PEOPLE AND LETTING THE NONPROFITS DO WHAT THEY DO BEST, I'M A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THAT AND I AM REALLY HOPING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION CAN GET BEHIND EPIC PATHWAYS IN ADDITION TO OTHER NONPROFITS WHO ARE MOVING AND SHAKING AND DO THE WORK. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I LEAN ON PEOPLE THAT CAN SHOW RESULTS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. AND BEFORE THEY CAME IN, THAT PROPERTY, WAS A MAGNET FOR NOT GOOD. AND THIS -- THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND SAID I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I GOT TO SEE IT WHEN IT WAS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. THOSE BEFORE PICTURES ARE NOT BEFORE. THEY WERE NOT GOOD AT ALL. I WAS VISITED AGAIN ON FRIDAY. I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR -- I'M EXCITED FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT GET TO GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE FOR THESE PEOPLE? HOW ARE YOU HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND TO HELP THEMSELVES? >> REALLY GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION OF A LOT OF FOLKS. WE OPERATE FROM EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICES INCLUDING HARM REDUCTION, TRAUMA INFORMED CARE. WE'RE ZERO TOLERANCE CAMPUS WITH HARM REDUCTION. THERE'S NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL, NO WEAPONS. THAT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR AND MADE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. SECOND OF ALL, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WALKING WITH SOMEBODY WITH SUBSTANCE USE ADDICTION THAT MIGHT RELAPSE OR IN ACT OF USING. WE'LL WALK WITH THEM AND REFER THEM TO MATS OR CARES CAMPUS. THERE'S METHADONE CLINICS. SO WE'RE WALKING WITH FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. ASKING THEM TO LEAVE IS NOT A FORM OF -- IT'S NOT A SOLUTION. IT'S NOT A FORM OF KINDNESS AND RESPECT IN REGARD TO RECOVERY. SO, WE'RE JUST IN DISCUSSION OF PROBABLY ABOUT THREE TIMES AND WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE NEXT PLAN IF THAT PERSON IS NOT READY AND MOTIVATED. >> BEFORE THEY START, THEY SIGN AN AGREEMENT AND THE RULES PRETTY CLEAR ON THERE. FROM CHECKING IN BY 9 P.M., TO PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM. PARTICIPATING IN INDEPENDENT LIVING AND COMMUNITY LIVING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP. WHERE I CAN -- ON FRIDAY WHEN I VISITED, I GOT TO SEE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE. THEY WERE HAPPY. THEY LOVED THEIR PLACE. AND THEY WERE PARTICIPATING. IT WAS NEAT TO SEE THEM TALKING WITH EACH OTHER. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT WITH COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE A NICE -- I WOULDN'T SAY AN IT'S A REC ROOM, BUT IT'S A PLACE FOR EVERYBODY TO COME TOGETHER AND THEY HAVE TO COME TOGETHER EVERY DAY TO PARTICIPATE. I CAN SEE GOOD THINGS COMING OUT OF THIS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE GROWTH AND THE GOOD RESULTS OUT OF IT. I WISH YOU ALL VERY BEST. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TOUR AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. DO YOU HAVE ANY CURRENT CITY CONTRACTS? >> NO, WE DON'T. WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY NOW. >>COUN. ROGERS: OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ON THIS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. REAL QUICK, JODY, WE GO WAY BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT DAYS. I'VE KNOWN YOU QUITE A LONG TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS REALLY THANKFUL FOR IS WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT NEEDED HELP WE CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON TAKING THEM TO YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE STILL CONTINUING WITH YOUR HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT YOU SAID IS YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES. WE'RE HEARING PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T FOLLOWING THROUGH. AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING THE -- THAT WE NEED. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU THAT YOU CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T LEAVE UNTIED ENDS, SO TO SPEAK, AT THE END OR DURING YOUR PROCESS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AND YOU HAVE BEEN FOR SO MANY YEARS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK IT'S BEEN VITAL TO INTEGRATE WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT RELATIONSHIP. IN SOLVING HOMELESSNESS OR BEING A PART OF IT. AND YEAH, I -- YES, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> WE'RE VERY DATA DRIVEN. WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE TRACK OF WHO IS COMING IN AND WHERE THE REFERRALS ARE COMING FROM. AND WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON OUTCOMES NOT JUST FOR SUCCESS STORIES BUT TO CORRECT MISTAKES ALONG THE WAY. REALLY THE IMPORTANT THING IS GETTING PEOPLE INTO THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ON THEIR FEET WITH A BANK ACCOUNT AND VEHICLE, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. WE HAVE A RESIDENT THAT WANTS TO START WORKING ON HER GED. THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THESE FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO START THINKING ABOUT AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE THEM IN THAT DIRECTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION NOW. I BELIEVE COUNCILORS -- COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU -- ANYTHING ON THAT PRESENTATION? >>COUN. PEÑA: I DID, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THE LADIES, WALK AWAY. I COULD GIVE THEM A CALL. I WAS INTERESTED IN WHAT'S THE QUALIFIERS FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO THAT PROGRAM. I WAS HEARING ABOUT ACUITY AND PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM HOMELESSNESS. IS IT PRIMARILY FOR THE UNHOUSED SUFFERING FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, DO YOU ACCEPT PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE? I KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES, PEOPLE PAINT IT ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH BUT THERE'S LOTS OF BRUSHES OUT THERE. JUST SOME CLARITY ON THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD INNOVATIVE PROGRAM GOING ON. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT IS REALLY UNIQUE OR EVIDENT ABOUT EPIC PATHWAYS WILL BE, SO, WE TAKE INDIVIDUALS WITH COMPLEX CARE NEEDS, SUBSTANCE USE ADDICTION, SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS, THERE'S NO DISQUALIFIERS IN REGARD TO -- THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAMS THAT DO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF COMPLIANCE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO WALK WITH FOLKS AND ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO STABILIZE WITH THE SUPPORTS IN PLACE. THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, YOU DO ACCEPT PEOPLE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES? >> YES. YES, WE DO. >>COUN. PEÑA: OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF NAMES FOR YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR WALKING AWAY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE HAVE THE PROCLAMATION FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AGAIN, WE'LL READ THIS PROCLAMATION. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION DATED SEPTEMBER 16, 2024. WHEREAS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE HERITAGE AND CULTURE OF HISPANIC AND LATIN-AMERICANS, AND WHEREAS THE COUNTRY-WIDE OBSERVATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE STARTED IN 1968 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK UNDER PRESIDENT JOHNSON. AUGUST 17, 1988 IT WAS EXPANDED BY PRESIDENT REAGAN TO A 30-DAY PERIOD. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT PRESENCE OF THE HISPANIC AND LATIN-AMERICAN AND CONTRIBUTIONS THEY HAVE MADE TO OUR COUNTRY BY ENHANCING AND SHAPING OUR NATIONAL CHARACTER WITH CENTURIES OLD TRADITIONS THAT REFLECT THE MULTIETHNIC AND MULTICULTURAL CUSTOMS OF OUR COMMUNITIES. >>COUN. BACA: WHEREAS, TODAY 62.6 MILLION PEOPLE OR 18.9 OF THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION ARE HISPANIC OR LATINO ORIGIN. WHEREAS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH RECOGNIZES AMERICAN CITIZENS WHOSE ANCESTORS CAME FROM SPAIN, CARIBBEAN, CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA. AND IT'S BECOME VITAL FOR THE GROWTH OF AMERICA WITH HISPANICS REPRESENTING THE DRIVING FORCES OF ECONOMIC SUCCESS FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE RESIDING IN AND OUT OF THE UNITED STATES AND. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME IS PIONEERS OF CHANGE, SHAPING THE FUTURE TOGETHER. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER TO RECOGNIZE THE TRADITIONS OF HISPANIC AND LATIN AMERICAS AND THE RICH SENSE OF CULTURE THEY BRING TO THE UNITED STATES. BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT CITY COUNCIL THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HEREBY PROCLAIMS SEPTEMBER 15th TO OCTOBER 15th AS ONE OF ALBUQUERQUE'S NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTHS. [ APPLAUSE ] >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST GETTING THIS WHOLE THING STARTED IS AN HONOR FOR HAVING ME OVER THERE. I THINK THIS IS MY THIRD YEAR. I APPRECIATE IT. WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND SAY HELLO, WE'LL GET THE PROCLAMATION TO YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, WE'RE ON ITEM FOUR. ADMIN Q&A. FIVE MINUTES FOR THIS. I'LL START WITH COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ARTS AND CULTURE ABOUT THE LIBRARIES. I KNOW THE DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE. ANYBODY FROM LIBRARIES OR ARTS AND CULTURE HERE? THANK YOU. MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT SERVICE ANIMALS BEING ALLOWED IN THE LIBRARIES. COULD YOU -- WHAT ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR SERVICE ANIMALS IN LIBRARIES? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, OUR LIBRARIES FOLLOW THE ADA GUIDELINES. WE RECOGNIZE SERVICE ANIMALS. WE PERMIT THE ANIMALS IN THE FACILITIES AS LONG AS THEY'RE WELL-BEHAVED. IF A -- >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO VISIT THE LIBRARY? >> SO, STAFF ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS, THIS IS A SERVICE ANIMAL AND WHAT TASK HAS IT BEEN TRAINED TO PERFORM. WE CANNOT ASK DOCUMENTATION OR REQUIRE ANY FURTHER PROOF THAN THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR RABIES? >> NOTHING ELSE. >>COUN. GROUT: IS YOUR STAFF AWARE OF THE RULES, QUESTIONS THEY CAN ASK? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT YES. I BELIEVE ONBOARDING THROUGHOUT THE LIBRARY SYSTEM. >>COUN. GROUT: THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I HAD A CONSTITUENT WHO WENT TO THE LIBRARY ON SATURDAY, I THINK, FRIDAY OR SATURDAY, SHE WAS GOING. SHE HAS A AN IMPLANT. SHE WAS ASKED THE FIRST TWO QUESTIONS AND THEY ASKED A FOLLOW UP AND THEY ASKED FOR A CARD. SHE SAID I DON'T HAVE ONE WITH ME. SHE HAD TO GO HOME. SHE DIDN'T TO GO TO HER MEETING. THE GOOD THING IS SHE CAME IN HER OWN CAR SO SHE COULD GO HOME. OTHERWISE, HER PERSON THAT SHE WOULD NORMALLY COME WITH WOULDN'T BOW -- BE ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING. SOMEBODY MISSED THE BOAT. MAYBE WE NEED A REFRESHER COURSE, REMIND ALL OF THE LIBRARIES EMPLOYEES WHAT THE RULES ARE. WE WANT TO ALWAYS BE INVITING AND INCLUDE EVERYBODY IN THE LIBRARY. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, I'LL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP ON THIS INCIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS WITH PARKS AND REC. ONE FOLLOW UP. IT'S A FOLLOW UP TO MY QUESTION LAST WEEK ABOUT THE PARK -- I'M VERY EXCITED WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE SHADE STRUCTURE WITH THE PARKS. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. DIRECTOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THERE WAS A PRESS RELEASE ON AUGUST 22nd THAT SAID PRD PLANNED TO PUT IN 28 SHADE PROJECTS IN THE PARKS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. AND THE LIST THAT YOU PROVIDED US LAST WEEK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HAD 28 PARKS AND FIVE LITTLE LEAGUE FACILITIES. AT THE TOP OF THIS LIST, IT SAID WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO, WILL THE PARKS THAT WERE ON THIS LIST, WILL THEY BE GETTING SHADE STRUCTURES IN 2025? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IT DOES -- THE SPEED AND PACE OF THE PROJECTS DEPENDS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE. IN THE CASE OF MAYBE SHADE STRUCTURES, IF THERE'S A STATE GRANT FUNDING SOURCE, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER. MANY ARE FUNDED BY STATE GRANTS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE TIMING OR PLANNING AND ENGINEERING, PERMITTING AND INSTALLATION. I BELIEVE WE WERE CHARACTERIZING THAT AS THESE SHADE PROJECTS WERE GOING TO GET COMPLETED WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND THE ONES THAT MOVE FAST WILL GET DONE FIRST, BUT WE'RE PUSHING AHEAD ON AS MANY AS WE CAN, AS FAST AS WE CAN. >>COUN. GROUT: THE REASON I ASK THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN WE GET CONSTITCH WPTS THAT REACH OUT AND SAY I HEARD WE ARE GETTING SHADE STRUCTURES AND WE'VE BEEN GIVEN TWO DIFFERENT -- AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I LIKE TO SAY THE SAME THING AS YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL TRY TO KEEP INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND STAKEHOLDER GROUPS IN THE PARKS APRIZED OF THE STATUS OF THE PROJECTS AS WELL AS LEGISLATORS AND COUNCILORS WHO HELP SECURE THESE FUNDS. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO KEEP YOU POSTED. >>COUN. GROUT: APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DR. SENGEL, DOES APD HAVE A COPPER THEFT UNIT? I ASK THIS BECAUSE DRIVING AROUND THE CITY I NOTICE A LOT OF STREET LIGHTS WITH THE ELECTRICAL WIRES BEING STOLEN AND RIPPED OUT. I'M CURIOUS IF THEY STILL HAVE A COPPER THEFT UNIT OR RECYCLE CENTER INVESTIGATION UNIT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I THINK DC BARKER IS HERE AND THEY CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING RELATED TO COPPER THEFT. IT'S DEFINITELY AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE ALL SUFFERING FROM. WE'VE HEARD FROM DIRECTOR TURNER PREVIOUSLY RELATED TO THE COPPER THEFT IMPACT FOR THE CITY. I THINK -- CITY-OWNED, BUT I THINK WE CAN HAVE APD ROPED RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS. >> WE STILL HAVE THE ORGANIZED CRIME UNIT WHICH HANDLES THOSE TYPES OF CASES. IT DOES INCLUDE SWORN POLICE OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN STAFF THAT WORK ON THOSE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: HOW MANY ARE IN THAT UNIT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE HAVE THREE DETECTIVES IN THE ORGANIZED CRIME UNIT AND AT LEAST TWO CIVILIANS AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. AND THEY DEAL WITH OTHER STUFF WITH ORGANIZED CRIME NOT JUST COPPER? >> YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DOES THAT INCLUDE RECYCLE CENTERS? >> THEY WORK ON THAT TOGETHER. I CAN REFER TO DEPUTY CHIEF. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: PERFECT. THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION, SIR -- I RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO A COUPLE QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE MAYOR'S VEHICLE ABOUT THE LICENSE PLATE, IT BEING A UC CAR. ESSENTIALLY. I ASKED ABOUT THE CHIEF OF POLICE'S CAR. IT HAS A PRIVATE PLATE NOT A GOVERNMENT PLATE. I BELIEVE THE STATE STATUTE READS IF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE NEEDS TO HAVE LIGHTS AND A GOVERNMENT PLATE FOR IT TO RUN CODE WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS, WHICH I'M SURE THE CHIEF DOES AT TIMES. CAN I GET A RESPONSE ON WHY THE CHIEF DOESN'T HAVE GOVERNMENT PLATES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT READ THAT PART OF IT. OR FOLLOW UP ON THAT PART. I CAN GET THE RESPONSE TO THAT. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A RESPONSE -- JUST A BLANKET ANSWER. I WANT TO ENSURE A FULL ANSWER FOR YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A -- SURVEY OUT? I'VE SEEN AN INVOICE HERE FOR RECEIPT DATED 2-11 OF 2023 IN REFERENCE TO DOING A REOCCURRING SURVEY EVERY QUARTER MEASURING RESIDENT SAFETY AND TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND ONGOING SCORES. ALL AVAILABLE FROM A LIVE DASH BOARD AND RESULTS AGGREGATE INTO A REPORT EACH QUARTER. FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS WE SHOULD HAVE A YEAR OF THAT ZEN CITY SURVEY AND PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER THREE QUARTERS OF A YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE ON THIRD QUARTER NOW. SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS -- IT'S VALUED AT $200,000. THIS IS A REOCCURRING CITY -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SENT TO JENNIFER BAILEE OR BRADLEY. THIS IS FROM GARRET SMITH IN THE CITY. THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE LOOKS LIKE THEY ORDERED A SURVEY THAT IS OUT THERE, SOMEWHERE, THAT WE PAID $200,000 FOR. PER YEAR. AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO YEAR FIVE, AND THE TOTAL QUOTE IS FOR $800,000. IS THAT CURRENTLY ACTIVE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I CAN'T LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU SINCE WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE QUESTION IN ADVANCE I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO LOOK UP THAT CONTRACT AND FIND IT FOR YOU. I'M AWARE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH ZEN CITY. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE SPECIFIC CONTRACT AMOUNT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. THIS IS PUTTING THE TAXPAYERS BACK $800,000. NEXT MEETING IF YOU CAN HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE FIRST YEAR OF THE ZEN CITY, THAT'S RECURRING SURVEY MEASURING RESIDENT SAFETY AND TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. WE NEED TO SEE THAT. THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO SEE THAT. WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MONEY SPENT AND WE NEED SEE THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS HER HAND UP. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS FOR MS. SENGEL OR ACTUALLY DMD. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. I'M GOING TO SEND SOMETHING MORE FORMAL. I'VE BEEN GETTING LOTS OF CALLS, I SEE IT IN -- JUST REAL FRUSTRATED WITH IF YOU'RE DRIVING WESTBOUND ON CENTRAL AND YOU'RE GOING TO TURN SOUTH ON SUNSET, IT'S CREATING SUCH A BOTTLENECK, THE SOUTH TURNING LANE REALLY PUSHES TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY UP TO LOMAS AND CENTRAL. AND I'M HOPING THAT SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS THIS ON THEIR RADAR. I KNOW I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT IT IN GENERAL A WHILE BACK. I THINK I NEED TO PUT THAT MORE IN WRITING AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT SITUATION, BUT THAT TURN TO SUNSET IS CREATING, AS YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT TO GET ACROSS THE RIVER, WE HAVE LOT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. IT'S CURRENTLY AN ISSUE, AND COMPOUNDED WITH THOSE, IT'S TURNING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A NIGHTMARE. I THINK IT WOULD ALLEVIATE AND HELP WITH THE TIME FRAME FOR PEOPLE TO GET HELP IF WE LOOK AT A LONGER TURN, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT, IF SOMEBODY CAN RESPOND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE'LL HAVE OUR DMD TRAFFIC TEAM LOOK INTO THAT. AND I CAN GO OUT THERE AND CHECK IT OUT. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT DIRECTOR TURNER CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AS WELL AS TO WHAT -- IT MAY BE ON THEIR RADAR ALREADY. YOU MAY HEAR FROM THEM TOMORROW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT ALREADY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 4th JOURNAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ITEM SIX. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTION. ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: REPORT ON COMMITTEES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS MET ON MONDAY SEPTEMBER 9. IN THE MATTER OF EC-190, EC-191, 194, 205, 208 BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF O-89, R-84, R-85, DO PASS. O-46 DO PASS AS AMENDED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION TO ACCEPT. SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. ANY OTHER DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? WE'LL GO TO CONSENT AGENDA. ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? INDIVIDUALS BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >> [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATION RELATIONS COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 27 AND OCTOBER 2 AT 3 P.M. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE NOW ON FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. ITEM TEN. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO O-43. COUNCILOR PEÑA, IF YOU'RE WAITING TO SPEAK AND PUBLIC COMMENT, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THESE SEVERAL BILLS AND WE'LL GO TO APPEALS, ANYWAY WHEN WE GET TO FINAL ACTIONS, O-42 WILL BE THE FIRST ON FINAL ACTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT BEFORE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON O-2 YOU'LL SPEAK BEFORE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE GET BEFORE A BREAK IN A BIT. COUNCILOR PEÑA, O-43. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-43, I JUST WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, THIS IS BY REQUEST. THIS IS AT MESA DEL SOL. I THINK THIS IS COUNCILOR BACA. THERE'S A COUPLE THAT I HAPPEN -- I WAS CALLED DURING LAST WEEK AND ASKED IF I WAS INTERESTED BY REQUEST. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF CONFUSION. THERE'S A COUPLE NOT IN MY DISTRICT. I WANT TO GO TO THE DISTRICT FIRST. MS. SENGEL, ARE WE OKAY TO DO THAT. OR IS THAT COUNCILOR ROGERS? I'M SORRY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YES, I THINK COUNCILOR ROGERS IS AWARE AND I'LL DEFER TO HER ON THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A TECHNICAL QUESTION, ARE WE ASKING TO CHANGE SPONSORS? OR ARE WE ASKING IF I'M OKAY WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA MOVING FORWARD? >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BE THE SPONSOR ON THIS. I'D BE HAPPY TO CO-SPONSOR. I THINK -- AND WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I THINK I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO SOMETHING I PUT MY NAME ON. >>COUN. LEWIS: ADD COUNCILOR ROGERS AS CO-SPONSOR. DONE DEAL. WE NEED A MOTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR ROGERS, DID YOU WANT TO READ THAT? MR. PRESIDENT, I'M SORRY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DEFINITELY HAVE READ THROUGH THAT IN PREPARATION FOR TODAY'S MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD MYSELF AS A CO-SPONSOR. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE DID THAT. YOU CAN MOVE THE BILL, IF YOU LIKE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION FOR DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED TO READ THE TITLE? LET'S READ THE TITLE. IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. APPROVING A PROJECT INVOLVING EVON SOLAR PURSUANT TO LOCAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT AND CITY ORDINANCES. I MOVE FOR DO PASS. AND WE ALSO HAVE FOR QUESTIONS MAX GRUNER, CHRISTOPHER CHAVEZ, CHRIS MOORHEAD. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. DIRECTOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. ABSOLUTELY THRILLED TO BRING TO YOU -- SOLAR. A VERY LARGE PROJECT AT MESA DEL SOL. THE COMPANY IS PROPOSING OF INVESTING, BRINGING NEW DOLLARS INTO OUR ECONOMY AT JUST SHY OF $1 BILLION, THAT'S BILLION WITH A "B," AND CREATE JUST SOUTH OF A THOUSAND JOBS. AS ALWAYS, MR. PRESIDENT, WHETHER IT PLEASES THE PRESIDENT AND COUNCIL, I HAVE WITH ME CHRIS CHAVEZ THE INCENTIVES MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO WILL PRESENT THE STAFF ANALYSIS AND BEHIND ME I HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMPANY AS WELL AS THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU WHERE -- MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL PROVIDE STAFF ANALYSIS THE COMPANY. IT'S AN NASDAQ LISTED FIRM IN BLOCK CHAIN TECH AND SOLAR INDUSTRY. THE COMPANY WAS FOUNDED IN 2010 IN THE FORMATIVE YEARS THE COMPANY ENGAGED IN DEVELOPMENT AND SALE OF NETWORK COMMUNICATIONS DEVICES AND RELATED EQUIPMENT. IN 2018, THE COMPANY UNDERWENT A SERIES OF CORPORATE REORGANIZATIONS IN ADVANCE OF ITS INITIAL PUBLIC OFFERING ON NASDAQ WHICH OCCURRED IN 2020. IN 2021 THEY FORMED A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY IN DELAWARE, AS THE PROJECT COMPANY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING DOMESTIC SOLAR CELL MANUFACTURING FACILITY. THE PROJECT INVOLVES CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A STATE OF THE ART SOLAR CELL PRODUCTION FACILITY IN MESA DEL SOL. THEY WILL MANUFACTURE CELLS AND SEMI CONDUCTOR DEVICE FOR CONVERTING LIGHT INTO ELECTRIC ENERGY. THE PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE COMPANY'S CAPACITY TO SATISFY THE LONG-TERM GROWTH PROJECTIONS AND FURTHER THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE U.S. CUSTOMERS. DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECT WILL TAKE PLACE IN TWO PHASES. WITH AN AGGRAVATED ESTIMATED TOTAL OF $942 MILLION. OVER SIX YEARS, APPROXIMATELY. THE COMPANY IS SEEKING LEDA FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION. THE STATE WILL PROVIDE $10 MILLION IN LEDA FUNDS. THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS INCURRED FOLLOWING THE EXECUTION OF THE PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT. THEY HAVE SELECTED A SITE IN THE COMMUNITY OF MESA DEL SOL. DESIGNING THE COMPLEX TO INCLUDE VARIOUS PROCESSES RELATED TO THE SOLAR CELL MANUFACTURE FABRICATION, ASSEMBLY AND ALSO THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES. THIS IS AN ALLOWABLE USE PER THE CITY'S IDO. THE COMPANY WILL HIGHER 911 EMPLOYEES. THE MAJORITY OF THE JOBS WILL BE FILLED BY ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS. THE JOBS CREATED INCLUDE OPERATOR TECHNICIANS ENGINEERS SUPERVISORS MANAGEMENT. THE NEWLY CREATED JOBS RANGE FROM APPROXIMATELY $31,000 TO $130,000. THERE ARE CAREER PATHWAYS FOR ALL LEVELS OF EMPLOYEES. THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL PAYROLL FOR THE PROJECT WHEN FULLY DEVELOPED IS APPROXIMATELY $73 MILLION ANNUALLY. THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO CREATE OVER 2600 CONSTRUCTION JOBS. MOST OF THOSE WILL BE SOURCES FROM LOCAL LABOR POOLS. AND THEN ANY LABOR THAT DOES COME FROM OUT OF STATE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO CREATE OVER 1100 INDIRECT AND INDUCED JOBS. THE STAFF ANALYSIS IS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, INCLUDES ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS PERFORMED BY THE NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. IT DETERMINES THAT THE COMPANY WILL MAKE A SUBSTANCIVE CONTRIBUTION TO OUR ECONOMY. AND OVERALL, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE OVER $49 MILLION IN NET BENEFITS OVER A TEN-YEAR PERIOD. EQUATED TO A $40 MILLION PRESENT VALUE. TOTAL NET BENEFIT TO THE STATE IS NEARLY $140 MILLION. LEDA25-2 IS QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DESIGNATED BY THE STATE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT ACT AND CITY INAFBLED LEGISLATION. IT COMPLIES WITH CITY PLANS AND POLICIES AND MEETS COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES. AND AS I SAID BEFORE, THE PROJECT WILL MAKE A POSITIVE SUBSTANTIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE ECONOMY BY CREATING 900 JOBS. BASED ON THE FINDINGS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PROPOSED IN THE PROJECT AND GRANT APPLICATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOU MENTIONED A FEW OF THE FOLKS. WE CAN GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, IF YOU LIKE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THE CEO. >> THANK YOU, MAX. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF EBON SOLAR APPLICATION. TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SOLAR CELL MANUFACTURING PLANT. I'M THE CEO OF EBON SOLAR. I SPENT MORE THAN TWO DECADES BUILDING COMPANIES BIG AND SMALL. I'M THRILLED TO BE HERE TODAY AND BEING THE BEST SOLAR MANUFACTURING IN THE UNITED STATES HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE WITH MY TEAM MEMBERS. OUR VP OF PROJECT OPERATIONS AS WELL AS OUR DIRECTOR OF LEGAL RISK MANAGEMENT. LET ME JUST TELL A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT EBON SOLAR. IT'S ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY AND WE HAVE A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION THAT ALLOW US TO INVEST WITH CONFIDENCE. OUR VISION IS TO INVENT SOLAR CELL TECHNOLOGY, INCREASED SOLAR CELL PRODUCTION AND BOOST EFFICIENCY OF CONDITIONAL SOLAR CELLS. THE SOLAR CELLS WE MANUFACTURE HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE WILL PRIMARILY SUPPLY U.S. SOLAR COMPANIES WHO ARE LOOKING FOR HIGH-QUALITY AND HIGHER EFFICIENCY SOLAR CELLS. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIPS FORMED WITH THE CITY, COUNTY, AND STATE AS WELL AS UNIVERSITIES, WORKFORCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE ALREADY HAVE JOBS POSTED. WE'RE ACTIVELY INTERVIEWING FOR SEVERAL POSITIONS. WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED OUR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS HERE IN MESA DEL SOL. AS PART OF THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS, IT TOOK A LONG TIME, WE WENT THROUGH A GREAT DEAL OF DUE DILIGENCE LOOKING FOR OVER 20 SITES ACROSS THE WHOLE COUNTRY. IN THE END, WE CHOSE ALBUQUERQUE. WE CHOSE CORRECTLY. THE U.S. IS THE SECOND LARGEST MARKET NOW FOR SOLAR ENERGY AND DEMAND FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. AND THERE IS A NEED FOR SOLAR COMPONENTS DEVELOPED HERE SCHEMATICALLY IN THE U.S. AND WE COMMITTED TO FULFILLING THAT GAP. NEW MEXICO HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE WELCOMING BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT. MAKING US SURE THAT OUR DECISIONS HERE TO BUILD OUR MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, WE'RE AIMING TO BREAK DOWN IN Q1, 2025 AND BEING OPERATIONAL 12 MONTHS AFTER. I KNOW IN OUR APPLICATION OVER TIME THE ESTIMATED $942 MILLION INVESTMENT IN THE SOLAR PROJECT WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL ECONOMY. WE ANTICIPATE CREATING MORE THAN 900 DIRECT JOBS. SPANNING SKILL LEVELS, OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIVERSE RANGE OF WORKERS. FROM ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS TO SPECIALIZED ROLES. WE VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU MENTIONED THAT TIMELINE OF Q1 OF 2025? >> YES. WITH ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS AS WELL AS APPLICATION FOR THE DEPARTMENTS NEED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE COULD BREAK GROUND IN Q12025? >> >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU'RE PUBLIC TRADED COMPANY? >> WE'RE NOT PUBLICLY TRADED, THE PARENT COMPANY IS. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S NOT? >> NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT ARE SOME OF THE, I GUESS I WOULD SAY, YOU HAVE A YEAR BEFORE CONSTRUCTION. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COMMON THREATS TO YOUR COMPANY OVER THE NEXT YEAR THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH TO HELP YOU WITH CONSTRUCTION OR CHALLENGES TO THE COMPANY AS A WHOLE OR WOULD DELAY IT OR WEIGH INTO THE DECISION. SOME OF YOUR CHALLENGES IN THE INDUSTRY THAT WEIGH INTO THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILOR LEWIS, A LOT OF CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US. TO BEGIN WITH, WE ARE IN THE DIVISION OF GETTING SECURE DEMAND IN MESA DEL SOL. WE HOPE TO FINISH THAT PROCESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. EVERYTHING IS MOVING FORWARD WITH A LOT OF PARTIES HELP. WE'RE MOVING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE DESIGNS AND SECURING OUR GENERAL CONTRACTORS. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN PROVIDE A LOT OF SUBCONTRACT OPPORTUNITIES TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AS WELL. IN TERMS, I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS, SCHEDULING IS DEFINITELY THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH SOME OF THE ITEMS WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF PLANNING AHEAD OF TIME TO MEET THE TARGET DEADLINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF THE COMPANY? >> THE OWNERSHIP, WE'RE OPENED BY THIS COMPANY MR. CHAVEZ INTRODUCED, NASDAQ LISTED COMPANY. THIS IS THE COMPANY LISTED HERE IN LLC IS U.S. COMPANY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ONE QUESTION I GOT LOT BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IS RECYCLING OF SOLAR CELLS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S A PART OF YOUR BUSINESS PLAN OR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IN YOUR COMPANY? >> ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY ALL YOU PHASE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, PRE-CONSTRUCTION WORK. ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP WE'VE BEEN ALREADY PUTTING A LOT OF EFFORT INTO FINDING OUR SUSTAINABILITY STRATEGY INCLUDING RECYCLING AND INCLUDING WATER USAGE AND POWER SAVING. YES, IT'S DEFINITELY ON THE AGENDA. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, ALL. ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ADMINISTRATION ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE BILL? GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE STATE WHOLE HEARTEDLY SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT. IT'S BRINGING US 900 JOBS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IT REALLY FILLS SUPPLY CHAIN GAP FOR EARLIER STAGES FOR THE FULL INDUSTRY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, ALL. COUNCILORS, QUESTIONS ON THE BILL? COUNCILOR ROGERS? OKAY. COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS HER HAND UP. MAYBE NOT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY -- I THINK -- COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS O-44. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU WANT TO READ IT OR WANT ME TO GO AHEAD? >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL DEFER TO YOU. YOU'RE THE COUNCILOR IN THE DISTRICT WHERE IT RESIDES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MA'AM. APPROVING PROJECT INVOLVING MESA FILM STUDIOS. LOCAL DEVELOPMENT ACT CITY ORDINANCE FF-04-10. SUPPORT THE ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENT OF SOUND STAGE STUDIOS AND SUPPORT FACILITIES IN ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS AND PRODUCTION OF MESA FILM STUDIO LLC. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR DO PASS. SECOND BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. BACK TO YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YEAH, BASICALLY, THIS IS ACTUALLY OPENING UP ANOTHER AREA OF FILM DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. REALLY CLOSE BY THE DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT. I THINK THERE'S A VERY, VERY BIG POTENTIAL FOR SOME BIG EXPANSION IN THAT AREA AS WELL. I REMEMBER WHEN MR. GARREN CAME UP ASKED ME, ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I SAID, MAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY, REALLY SPECIAL FOR ALBUQUERQUE AND ALBUQUERQUE'S WEST SIDE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HAPPENING. I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT -- I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BRING A TON OF JOBS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A SMALL PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW. IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILORS. A QUICK REFLECTION ON THE FILM INDUSTRY AND THE SIGNIFICANCE TO ALBUQUERQUE AND NEW MEXICO. IN THE AGGREGATE OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS FILM HAS CREATED $2.6 BILLION IN DIRECT SPENDING IN THE STATE AND IN THE CITY. 90% OF THE VENDORS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIRECT CONTRACTS WITH FILM PRODUCTIONS LIVE AND WORK IN ALBUQUERQUE. DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 23, WHEN WE HAD THE FILM STRIKE, THE DIRECT SPENT IN ALBUQUERQUE WAS $800 MILLION. ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, TEN MONTHS AGO, FILMMAKER MAGAZINE IDENTIFIED ALBUQUERQUE AS THE NUMBER ONE U.S. CITY FOR FILM MAKERS TO LIVE, WORK, AND RECREATE. THE FILM INDUSTRY IS A TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC CATALYST FOR US. AND WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF STUDIO SPACE. WE JUST ARE. ALBUQUERQUE FILM LIAISON HAS RUN THE NUMBERS FOR ME, AND THE RATE OF RECOVERY AFTER COVID AND AFTER THE STRIKE IN ALBUQUERQUE IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN IT IS IN ATLANTA, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN IT IS IN TORONTO, SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN MANY PLACES IN CALIFORNIA. AS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ POINTED OUT, WE NEED TO CONTINUE GROWING THIS INDUSTRY. IT'S AN EXCITING INDUSTRY. WE NEED MORE STUDIO SPACE. I'M ABSOLUTELY THRILLED THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS WHILE ACTIVATING THE WEST SIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE. WHERE REALLY SOME OF OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. IF IT PLEASES THE PRESIDENT, I'LL PASS THIS ON TO MY COLLEAGUE CHRIS CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. TODAY I'LL PROVIDE THE STAFF ANALYSIS FOR MESA FILM STUDIOS LEDA TRANSACTION. IT'S A NEWLY FORMED VENTURE OF WORLD CLASS OWNERS PARTNERING TO CREATE A FULL SERVICE MEDIA AND FILM CAMPUS. THEY WILL LAUNCH PHASE ONE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF A FULL SERVICE SOUND STAGE COMPLEX ACROSS 60 ACRES AT THE CITY'S DOUBLE EAGLE TWO AIRPORT. THAT'S CONSISTING OF SIX SOUND STAGES, AND FLEX SPACE. IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE OVERSIZED 20-ACRE BACK LOT WITH PERMANENT GREEN SCREEN. THESE STAGES WILL SERVE THIRD PARTY CUSTOMERS THAT CREATE FEATURE FILMS, TELEVISION, ET CETERA. MESA FILM STUDIOS WILL HAVE A CUMULATIVE SPEND OF AT LEAST $8 MILLION. THE COMPANY WILL PROVIDE $38 MILLION IN INVESTMENT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OF FACILITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS. THE COMPANY IS REQUESTING $1 MILLION FROM THE CITY. THE STATE WILL PROVIDE $6 MILLION. MESA FILM STUDIOS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR REBIM URSMENT OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION FOLLOWING THE EXECUTION OF THE PROJECT PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED NON-RESIDENTIAL SENSITIVE USE ZONE WHICH IS ALLOWABLE USE FOR FILM STUDIO. THE COMPANY IS -- IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE EVALUATION CRITERIA NORMALLY ADDRESSED IN THE LEDA PROJECT IS AROUND JOB CREATION, BUT FOR FILM STUDIOS WE DIRECT THEM DIFFERENTLY. THE FOCUS OF THE EVALUATION AND PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE STRUCTURED AROUND THE ECONOMIC INVESTMENT RELATED TO THE DIRECT TO SPEND. THE COMPANY'S COMMITTING TO $80 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF $800 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE LEDA PROJECT. WHILE WE KNOW THIS RESULT IN HUNDREDS OF JOBS AND PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND PENALIES AND CLAW BACK ARE BUILT AROUND THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS NOT THE JOBS. THE CITY WILL RECEIVE OVER $13 MILLION IN NET BENEFITS OVER THE TEN-YEAR PERIOD. EQUATING TO A VALUE OVER $11 MILLION. IT WILL HAVE A TOTAL PUBLIC BENEFIT OF OVER $54 MILLION. IT'S EXPECTED TO CREATE AT LEAST 230 CONSTRUCTION JOBS FROM LOCAL LABOR POOLS. AND EXPECTED TO CREATE 500 DIRECT AND INDUCED JOBS. LIKE WITH ANY OTHER PROJECT, ANY OF THE LABOR FROM OUT OF STATE FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL ADD TO OUR ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN THE STATE. LEDA 25-1 IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT AS DEFINED BY THE STATE'S LOCAL DEVELOPMENT ACT AND CITY ENABLING LEGISLATION. IT COMPLIES WITH ADOPTED CITY PLANS AND POLICIES AND MEET COMMUNITY ECONOMIC PRIORITIES AND OBJECTIVES. THE PROJECT WOULD MAKE THIS A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY BY DEVELOPING MUCH-NEEDED FILM PRODUCTION FACILITIES AND COMMITTING TO $800 MILLION IN CUMULATIVE DIRECT TO SPEND. BASED ON THE FINDINGS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PROPOSED IN THE PROJECT PLAN APPLICATION. WE HAVE FOLKS FROM AVIATION, FROM THE STATE, AND FROM THE COMPANY. I BELIEVE THE COMPANY HAS A PRESENTATION IF THERE IS TIME. >> COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK I MET MOST OF YOU. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, MORE THAN YOU EVER WILL KNOW. IT'S BEEN A DREAM FOR ME. BUT IN A BIGGER WAY, I LEFT NEW MEXICO WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND HEADED TO CALIFORNIA. BECAUSE WHAT I WANTED TO DO I COULDN'T DO HERE. AND IT WASN'T THAT MY DREAMS WERE CRUSHED, I AMMING -- I JUST COULDN'T DO IT HERE. I WENT TO CALIFORNIA AND DID THINGS. WHEN A FRIEND OF MINE CAME BACK AND STARTED BUILDING MESA DEL SOL, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. MY HOMETOWN THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE MOVIES? THIS IS A BIG PROJECT FOR ME BECAUSE I WANT TO CREATE JOBS. I WANT TO CREATE VISION. I WANT SOMEONE LIKE ME WHEN I WAS 17 TO GO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO. I CAN DO IT HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES HERE. OUR STUDIO IS ABOUT BUILDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE HERE. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, WHEN YOU BUILD STUDIOS LIKE THIS, THEY BUILD OTHER OPPORTUNITIES LIKE POST PRODUCTION WORK, LIKE VISUAL PRODUCTION WORK, JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTORS, JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE CREATIVE. NOT JUST DIRECTORS AND PRODUCERS BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN OTHER AREAS LIKE WRITERS. I BELIEVE NEW MEXICO COULD BE A PRODUCTION HUB WHERE WE CAN CREATE PRODUCTION FROM NEW MEXICO, NOT JUST HAVE IT COME HERE, VISIT USE WHAT WE HAVE, AND LEAVE. THIS IS A MAJOR OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING THIS HOME, FOR ME. I WANT TO EMBRACE THE EDUCATION COMPANIES AND GROUPS HERE SO WE HAVE AN OPEN DOOR TO HELP NURTURE PEOPLE. THEY NEED TO HEAR WHAT IT'S ABOUT. SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THE MOVIE BUSINESS IS GLAMOURS IS FILLED WITH ACTRESSES AND AWARDS. BUT IT'S REALLY HARD AND REALLY TOUGH AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK AND IT TAKES A BIG TEAM. I WANT TEAM TO COME TO NEW MEXICO AND REALIZE THAT TEAM IS AVAILABLE HERE AND THAT FACILITY IS AVAILABLE HERE. RIGHT NOW, NETFLIX IS A BUILT FOR PURPOSE STUDIO. WE NEED A LITTLE MORE OF THOSE HERE TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE OUT HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. WE HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. WHY DON'T YOU GO TO THAT NOW? AND THANK YOU FOR BEING AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BERNADETTE FOLLOWED BY MONIQUE. >> I'M HERE REPRESENTING NAVA, I'M JEMEZ PUEBLO. WE WANT TO SPEAK IN OPIZATION OF THIS PLAN. NOT BECAUSE WE'RE AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. BUT BECAUSE OF HOW FAST IT'S PUSHING ALONG WITHOUT TRIBAL CONSULTATION. TRIBAL CONSULTATION THAT I HOPE TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND MORE MEANINGFUL, WHICH HAS NOT REALLY HAPPENED. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE MONEY OR THE DEVELOPMENT, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STRETCH NEXT TO THE WEST SIDE, THAT ONE SIDE. THERE'S A GOOD BUFFER THAT YOU DON'T GO HIGHER THAN THE 85-FOOT CONTROL TOWER THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. WE WANT TO PROTECT OUR HORIZON. THANK YOU. >> MONIQUE FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM A RESIDENT OF BERNALILLO COUNTY DISTRICT THREE. ALBUQUERQUE AIRPORT AND KIRTLAND AIR FORCE BASE. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH NOISE POLLUTION AND THE AFTER EFFECTS OF A JET FUEL SPILL THAT TOOK DECADES TO CLEAN UP. I WOULDN'T WISH THIS ON ANY OF THE FAMILIES. AS MATTER OF FACT -- THE FACT THAT DEVELOPERS WANT TO RUIN SACRED LAND WITHOUT PROPER CONSULTATION OR INPUT AND DISGRACE FOR THE NATIVE COMMUNITY. PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCIL -- WHETHER YOU AGREE OR NOT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS HEARD. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. WE USE FILM -- PARTICIPATING IN THE MOVIE INDUSTRY AS IT HAPPENS. I WAS -- WHAT I WANT TO SEE, I WANT TO SEE SUMMER FEST THIS BIG. I WANT TO DO AN OPERATION THAT EXPANDS TO WHERE WE CAN GET A LOT OF ALBUQUERQUE PEOPLE AND BE PART OF IT. THAT DOESN'T SEEM POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SOUND STRUCTURE. WHAT THIS BRINGS IN, IT BRINGS A SOUND STRUCTURE TO GO BIG AND CREATE THINGS TO COMPETE EVEN WITH VEGAS AND THE SPHERE. WE NEW THINGS COMING TO THE SOUND TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE THE SOUND DIRECTED LIKE X-RAY THING YOU CAN DIRECT SOUNDS TO DIFFERENT PLACES. AND WE'RE THE FIRST ONES TO BRING THAT TECHNOLOGY WE'LL GET EVERYBODY IN THE MOVIE INDUSTRY RIGHT HERE. I WANT TO SUPPORT THESE GUYS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS -- >> WE HAVE ONE MORE ON ZOOM. JANICE. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> HI, GOOD EVENING. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. I APOLOGIZE, I'VE BEEN SICK WITH COVID. MY VOICE IS A LITTLE FAINT. I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF FOR THIS EVENING. I DID WANT TO COMMENT ON OUR PETROGLYPH MONUMENT AS A SACRED PLACE. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO PRAY. A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO MEDITATE. A PLACE WHERE MYSELF AND MY FATHER AND MY GRANDMOTHER ALL HAVE MEMORIES. AND I HOPE TO MAKE MEMORIES WITH MY GREAT NEPHEW AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE DOUBLE EAGLE AIRPORT. I WAS A MEMBER OF SUNFLOWERS FOR CHANGE DOING GARDEN-BASED REMEDIATION IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT AFTER THE JET FUEL SPILL. IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY TO CLEAN THESE KIND OF THINGS. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE. TRIBAL CONSULTATION IS A BEAR MINIMUM NECESSITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? I KNOW THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LARGE PART IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL AS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND COUNCILOR PEÑA HAVE SPONSORED THIS. I KNOW IT'S ONE IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS. I DON'T HAPPEN IF -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL SEE THIS AGAIN. MAYBE IT WILL COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AGAIN. I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE USE OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN HELPING A PROJECT LIKE THIS. YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, WE HEAR PUBLIC SPEAKERS AND I WANT TO HEAR PEOPLE FROM -- WHAT DISTRICT THEY COME FROM. I THINK THESE ARE FOLKS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN. THAT'S GREAT. CERTAINLY INTERESTED IN HEARING THEM WEIGH IN ON THESE THINGS. I CAN TELL YOU THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE IN MY DISTRICT, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS WE'VE HAD GREAT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THE WEST SIDE. BUT LOT OF LAWS, WHETHER IT BE IMPACT FEES OR OTHER TYPES OF STIPULATIONS THAT HAVE DISCOURAGED DEVELOPMENT AS FAR AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO CREATE JOBS ON THE WEST SIDE. WHICH IS THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO RIVER CROSSINGS, WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC, WHEN IT COMES TO QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR CITY. WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE IMBALANCE. SO, WHEN WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE KIND OF INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY THAT'S GOING TO CREATE JOBS IN THIS AREA, REALLY CREATE MAJOR JOB CENTERS FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR AREA, I CAN TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT AND PEOPLE ON THE WEST SIDE ARE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED WHEN IT COMES TO SEEING GOOD QUALITY INVESTMENTS LIKE THIS. CERTAINLY, APPRECIATE IT AND SUPPORT THIS BILL. COUNCILORS, OTHER DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I KNOW WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT TRIBAL NOTIFICATION AT THE LAST HEARING. WE DID RESEARCH THAT, AND WE DID FIND THAT NOTIFICATION DID HAPPEN. MR. PRESIDENT, CAN YOU VERIFY THAT ONE MORE TIME? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YES, I CAN VERIFY THAT. IF YOU NEED ME TO VERIFY DETAILS I'LL REFER TO MY COLLEAGUE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S JUST -- THERE'S TWO KINDS OF TRIBAL NOTIFICATION WE'RE GOING BY WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IS REQUESTED WHICH IS DIRECT GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT NOTIFICATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT NOT TRICKLE DOWN THE WAY EVERYONE WANTS. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE TRIBAL ENTITIES WOULD LIKE DIRECT GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT NOTIFICATION AND THAT DID HAPPEN. I WON'T MEFRP THOSE DETAILS. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO HAVE SOME DETAILS TO ADD. FOR AVIATION DEPARTMENT, CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, THERE ARE THE RULES AND BEST PRACTICES. WE SEEK TO FOLLOW BOTH. YES, WE DID FOLLOW THE RULES IN TERMS OF TRIBAL NOTIFICATION, HOWEVER, WE HAVE HEARD THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AT DOUBLE EAGLE TWO. FOR THAT REASON I HAVE BEEN ENGAGING MY COLLEAGUE TERRY SLOEN AT THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION. AND HE'S BEEN TELLING ME ABOUT MEANINGFUL CONSULTATION AND CONSENT. WE'RE ENGAGING IN A STRATEGIC PLAN OF OUTREACH, AND WE PLAN TO DO THE OUTREACH AND TALK TO AS MANY TRIBAL GROUPS AS WE GO TO. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, WE HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY. WE WELCOME SPIRITED DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO INVITE NAVA TO JOIN US FOR COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION ON THE FUTURE OF DOUBLE EAGLE TWO. IN FACT, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE INVITED THEM TO JOIN THE CITY'S COMMISSION ON AMERICAN INDIAN AND ALASKA NATIVE AFFAIRS. WE HOPE THEY WILL ACCEPT ININVITATION. ON THE TRIBAL CONSULTATION FRONT I HAVE AN UPDATE. I'M IN CONTACT WITH THE OFFICE OF LAGUNA PUEBLO. THE CITY MUST OBSERVE GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT APPROACH, I REQUESTED A MEETING AND WE'RE WORKING ON SCHEDULING THAT MEETING. WE HAVE OTHER INVITATIONS FOR MEETING THAT ARE PENDING WITH ISLETA, SANDIA, AND SEVERAL TRIBAL ENTITIES THAT WE INTEND TO ENGAGE. MESA FILM STUDIOS WILL MEET WITH PUEBLO LEADERS TO DISCUSS THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO OUR SCOPE WHICH WILL BE MORE BROAD THE FUTURE OF DOUBLE EAGLE DEVELOPMENT. I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR MASTER PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS A YEAR-LONG PROCESS OF UPDATING THE VISION OF OPERATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT OF DOUBLE EAGLE TWO AIRPORT IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AND WE'LL CERTAINLY BE REACHING OUT TO TRIBAL ENTITIES AND OTHER INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION. THAT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT DOUBLE EAGLE TWO IS GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. IT'S MEANT TO REMAIN GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. THE REASON WHY WE LEASED IT TO PRIVATE SECTOR ENTITIES AND WHY WE PARTNER WITH THEM THROUGH A P3 MODEL IS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOUBLE EAGLE TWO CAN BE A SUSTAINABLE AIRPORT. WE LOVE THAT AIRPORT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE. WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. WE'RE BUILDING TWO NEW HANGER COMPLEXES. THAT AIRPORT HAS NOT SEEN THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN 25 YEARS. AT THE SAME TIME WE SEEK TO PRESERVE THE VIEW SHEDS FROM THE PETROGLYPH NATIONAL MONUMENT WHICH IS THE HOLY AND CEREMONIAL LAND FOR THE NATIVE PEOPLE OF NEW MEXICO. THEREFORE, WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO LIMIT BUILDING HEIGHTS TO NO MORE THAN 65 FEET. THAT IS A LOT LOWER THAN THE CONTROL TOWER WHICH IS 102 FEET. WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE AND RENDERING THAT WE'RE GENERATING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS AND IN PARTICULAR THE MESA FILM STUDIOS BECAUSE WE CAN NOW MODEL THAT, THOSE WILL NOT OBSTRUCT THE VIEW TO THE MOUNTAINS OR THE SKY. WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO THE FOLKS WHO HOLD THE PURPOSE AND THE SPIRIT OF THE PET PETROGLYPHS TO THEIR HEART. IN CLOSING, IF YOU NEED ANY DETAILS, INFORMATION TONIGHT, I'VE COME PREPARED WITH THAT, DATES AND INFORMATION AROUND THE OUTREACH WE HAVE ALREADY DONE AND OTHER OUTREACH WE PLAN TO DO MOVING FORWARD. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON THE TRIBAL CONSULTATION. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN MY NINE TIMES HERE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET NAVA ON THE LIST SO THEY ALWAYS JUST GET THE UPDATES? I THINK WE FOCUS ON RIGHTFULLY SO OUR TRIBES AND PUEBLOS AND RESERVATIONS. WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF URBAN NATIVES THAT ALSO WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THESE PROCESSES. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR THIS. THANK YOU FOR INVITING THEM TO THE TABLE, I THINK IN OEI CAN WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADDED TO THE LIST SO THAT WE -- THEY ALSO GET THE NOTIFICATION? THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE STATE TRIBAL CONSULTATION ACT, AND I THINK THE PARALLEL APPROACH THAT THE CITY IS TAKING IS REALLY BETWEEN SAUFB SOVEREIGN AND SOVEREIGN. I WOULD SAY YES, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENTS SURROUNDING AND CO-LOCATED IN ALBUQUERQUE TO MAKE SURE SOME OF THESE ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS ARE PART OF THE PORTFOLIO AT THE CITY CONSULTING WITH THEM. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, OEI WOULD BE A FOCAL ENTITY TO FACILITATE THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANYBODY ELSE? WE'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM C IS O-45. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-45 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO TAXABLE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BONDS. SERIES 2024. AND THIS ORDINANCE SEEKS SUPPORT POWER LLC THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF $300 MILLION INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND. THE FUNDS ARE INTENDED TO DEVELOP ADVANCING TECHNOLOGY FACILITIES AT MESA DEL SOL. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT NO NUCLEAR MATERIAL WILL BE UTILIZED AT THIS SITE. AND THE $300 MILLION BOND WILL BE SELF-FUNDED WITH NO DIRECT FINANCIAL RISK OR OUTLAY FROM THE CITY. I MOVE FOR A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. GO TO DIRECTOR. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, THIS IS A BIG EXCITING PROJECT IN THAT IT IS THE SECOND ITERATION OF AN EXPANSION AT MESA DEL SOL. WE'RE DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE HERE. AS A MEANS OF PROVIDING GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE COMPANIES WHO ARE TRYING TO RELOCATE TO LOCATE TO ALBUQUERQUE BUT ALSO TO EX-PAPPED IN -- EXPAND IN ALBUQUERQUE. WE RUN IRB AND LEDA CONCURRENTLY. THERE'S PRESSURES ON THIS COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO PLACE THE EQUIPMENT ORDERS FOR THE EXPANSION. WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY IS THE IRB FOR REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY WHICH IS CALLED FOR EQUIPMENT. AND WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH WE'LL COMING TO YOU AGAIN FOR A VOTE ON THE LEDA AWARD. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE CHRIS CHAVEZ. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCILORS. I'VE STATED BEFORE. THE COMPANY IS REQUESTING A $300 MILLION CITY INDUSTRY REVENUE BOND TO ASSIST WITH IMPROVEMENT OF EXISTING SITE. IT'S A MISSION-DRIVEN ENGINEERING COMPANY FOCUSED ON CLEAN AFFORDABLE SAFE ENERGY SOLUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE INTEGRATED DESIGN LICENSING AND DEMONSTRATION OF ADVANCED REACTOR TECHNOLOGY. GROWING FROM A BROAD RESEARCH EFFORT AT UNIVERSITIES AND LABORATORIES, THEY WERE FOUNDED TO ACCELERATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INNOVATIVE NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO TRANSFORM THE ENERGY LANDSCAPE IN THE UNITED STATES AND INTERNATIONALLY. THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING OF THE ADVANCED SALT COOLING TECHNOLOGY AND RELATED SYSTEMS. THE COMPANY'S SEEKING TO BUILD THIS SALT PRODUCTION FACILITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEIR CAMPUS WITH THE EXISTING SITE IN MESA DEL SOL AT 5201 HAWKING DRIVE. THE NEED FOR THE FACILITY WOULD USE CHEMICAL MANUFACTURING PROCESS TO PRODUCE FLUORIDE SALT THAT IS A PRIMARY HEAT TRANSFER FLUID FOR THE SALT-COOLED HIGH TEMPERATURE REACTOR TECHNOLOGY. THE MANUFACTURING FACILITY IS AN ALLOWABLE USE PER THE CITY'S IDO AND THIS PROJECT WILL SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A DEMONSTRATION REACTOR IN OAKERAGE, TENNESSEE AS PART OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT PROGRAM. THE COMPANY APPLIED FOR AND RECEIVED LEDA INCENTIVE AND IRB IN 2020 FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE CREATION OF 100 HIGH-QUALITY PERMANENT JOBS AND AVERAGE ANNUAL WAGE OF $100,000. ALBUQUERQUE HAS THE TALENT, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND INTELLECTUAL CAPITAL TO DRIVE THE SUSTAINABLE LONG-TERM GROWTH IN THE INDUSTRY. THE COMPANY EXPECTS THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION -- CREATE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND THE LABOR WILL BE FROM LOCAL LABOR POOLS. COMPANY IS SEEKING 100% ABATEMENT OF GROSS RECEIPTS AND COMPENSATING PROPERTY ACQUIRED WITH CONNECTION OF THE PROPERTY AND 85% OF REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT. THIS PROJECT INCLUDES FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS PREPARED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO BUREAU OF BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC RESEARCH. AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE. THE OPERATIONS RELATED TO THE BOND WILL JENERATE ALMOST $4 MILLION OF TAXES UPON REACHING HORIZON IN 2043. IT'S EXPECTED TO REMAIN TAX POSITIVE THROUGHOUT THE SPAN OF THE CONTRACT. ALTHOUGH THE COMPANY WILL GRA RAMP UP TO NEW EMPLOYEES BY 2028. THE JOBS WILL GENERATE TAX IMPACT OF THE IRB AND BEYOND. THE PROJECT WILL HAVE NUMEROUS POSITIVE ECONOMIC BENEFITS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND THE STATE. AND THE CITY HAS REALIZED THE BENEFIT THROUGH EXPANSION OF VALUED EXISTING EMPLOYER THAT DOES WELL BY EMPLOYEES, CUSTOMERS WITH COMMUNITY. THIS IS A QUALIFIED PROJECT DEFINED BY THE STATE'S INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND ACT. THE CITY ENABING LEGISLATION. THE PROJECT WILL MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE ECONOMY. IT COMPLIES WITH THE ADOPTED CITY PLANS AND POLICIES AND MEETS COMMUNITY ECONOMIC PRIORITY AND OBJECTIVES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF IRB25-1 AS PROPOSED IN THE PROJECT PLAN APPLICATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> NO. >> IF IT PLEASES THE COUNCIL, MY COLLEAGUE WEALTH -- BETH WITH THE STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO BRING ABOUT $4.2 BILLION IN TEN YEARS IN ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. NOT ONLY ARE THEY A HIGH-WAGE EMPLOYER AS MR. CHAVEZ JUST SAID, THEY ALSO PAY 100% OF HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. TO ME THAT'S A MODEL EMPLOYER. THE STATE IS FULLY PUTTING THEIR SUPPORT BEHIND THIS PROJECT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. ANYTHING ELSE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE COMPANY HERE. WHAT HAPPENEDA REYNOLDS. MAYBE 30 SECONDS. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU GOT IT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT THE CITY HAS GIVEN US TO THIS POINT. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION. GO TO VOTE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. WE'RE GOING TO GO APPEALS. WE HAVE ONE APPEAL. EC-24-14. UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS EPC DECISION TO APPROVE THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM RML TO MXL FOR ALL OF OR PORTION. I'LL HAVE THE STAFF EXPLAIN THE REST OF THE TITLE. THIS IS A FULL HEARING. ALL PRESENTERS OTHER THAN ATTORNEYS MUST BE SWORN IN. I'LL ASK EVERYBODY TO STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TONIGHT. ON EACH SIDE OF THIS. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. IF YOU'LL -- DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY THAT YOUR TESTIMONY WILL BE TRUE? THANK YOU, ALL. THESE ARE THE TIME LIMITS FOR PRESENTERS. WE'LL GET TO ARGUMENTS. FIRST OF ALL EIGHT MINUTES IS PRESENTATION FROM THE APPELLANT. TEN MINUTES FOR APPLICANT. THREE MINUTES BY OR RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY CITY PLANNING STAFF. AND TWO MINUTES OF REBUTTAL BY THE APPELLANT. WE'LL START WITH THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER OPENING REMARKS ON THE HEARING? >> JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF REFRESHER ON THIS. THIS APPEAL INVOLVED A REQUEST FOR ZONE CHANGE FROM RML TO MXL. AT 201 AND 203 HARVARD DRIVE. THIS IS IN DISTRICT SIX SOUTH OF BRICK LIGHT DISTRICT BETWEEN SILVER AND LEAD. THE PROPERTY OWNERS REQUESTED ZONE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE EXISTING TWO HOMES AND PAID PARKING LOT ON THE PROPERTIES INTO A COFFEE SHOP, BREAKFAST RESTAURANT AND COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE. BY A 4-1 VOTE THE EPC APPROVED THE ZONE CHANGE. AND THAT APPROVAL WAS APPEALED BY THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE COUNCIL REFERRED THIS CASE TO LAND USE HEARING OFFICER WHO RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL GRANT THE APPEAL AND REVERSE THE EPC DECISION TO APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE. AT OUR AUGUST 5th COUNCIL MEETING WE HAD THE ACCEPT OR REJECT HEARING ON THIS MATTER WHERE YOU VOTED TO REJECT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION AND HOLD A FULL HEARING ON THIS MATTER. TONIGHT YOU'LL HEAR THAT HEARING AND HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE PARTIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE ZONE CHANGE SHOULD BE APPROVED. YOU WILL LOOK AT THE PRIOR ZONE CHANGE TO LOOK AT WHETHER THEY ACTED FRAUDANTLY OR CAPRICIOUSLY AND LOOK AT APPLICABLE RULES IN THE ZONE CHANGE. YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE PARTIES AS THE PRESIDENT OUTLINED WITH THE TIMELINE. AT THE END THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AS COUNCILORS TO DELIBERATE AND DISCUSS. YOUR OPTION IS GRANT THE APPEAL AND ADOPT THE LUHO FINDING, GRANT THE APPEAL BUT ADOPT DIFFERENT FINDINGS, OR DENY THE APPEAL AND FIND NEW FINDINGS. ONE LAST NOTE WE'RE NOT PERMITTED TO TAKE ANY NEW EVIDENCE. THERE'S SEVERAL HEARINGS ON THIS MATTER ALREADY. SO THE EVIDENCE IS COMPLETE FOR OUR PURPOSES. YOU'LL BE MAKING YOUR DECISION BASED ONLY ON THE EXISTING EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AND ARGUMENTS YOU WILL HEAR TONIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL ADHERE STRICTLY TO THE TIME LIMITS. WE'LL START WITH MR. HANCOCK ON BEHALF OF THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. >> I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HEARING OUR APPEAL IN THIS CASE. I'M DON HANCOCK, I'M THE SECRETARY TREASURER OF THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION UHA IS RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE AREA. DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES? NOPE? ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. IN THE AREA IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO. BOUNDARIES ARE CENTRAL ON THE NORTH. YALE ON THE WEST. GAR FIELD ON THE SOUTH. AND GIRARD ON THE EAST. AT THE AUGUST 5th MEETING THE PRESIDENT SAID HE HAD MANY QUESTIONS. I HOPE TO ANSWER AT LEAST SOME OF THEM AND ADDRESSING THE ZONING HISTORY AND CONDITIONS OF THE AREA WHAT THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST, WHAT'S IN IT, WHY THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION IS APPEALING THE EPC APPROVAL OF THE ZONE CHANGE AND WHAT'S THE RECORD ON WHICH YOU'LL BASE YOUR DECISION. IN THE RECORD ARE THESE HISTORIC AND CURRENT MAPS OF THE UHA AREA WHICH WERE APPEARED BY CITY COUNCIL ACTION. THE TOP NORTHERN EDGE CENTRAL. THAT'S OUR BOUNDARY. WEST EDGE IS YALE. GIRARD IS THE EIGHT EDGE ANDGERFIELD IS THE BOTTOM EDGE. LEFT SIDE MAP IS THE 1978 AND 1986 UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD SECTOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN ZONING THAT MADE SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PRE-1978 COMMERCIAL USES ALONG CENTRAL MORE INTENTSIVE AND MAINTAINED FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING SOUTH OF SILVER CALLED DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL. IT ALSO MADE RESIDENTIAL SOME OF THE PREVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL ZONES ALONG LEAD. RIGHT SIDE SHOWS THE 2018IDO ZONE CHANGE THAT ELIMINATED THE SECTOR PLAN ZONING IN OUR AREA AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THIS AREA THE IDO EXPANDED THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING BY MAKING THE COMMERCIAL ZONING ALONG YALE AND FEW PREVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL LOTS ON LEAD INTO MIXED USE TO MAKE RESIDENTIAL USES PERMISSIVE. HUPPEDREDS OF LOTS SOUTH OF SILVER FROM HARVARD TO VASSER WOULD CHANGE TO RML. AMENDMENT FAMILY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS EXISTED SINCE 2018, INCLUDING ON THESE TWO LOTS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED IN 2017 DESIGNATED THE AREA NORTH OF SILVER TO BE AN AREA OF CHANGE AND THE AREA SOUTH OF SILVER TO BE AN AREA OF CONSISTENCY. AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE IT'S UNCONTESTED IN THE RECORD THAT THE CHANGES IN ZONING AND COMMUNITY CONDITIONS IN THE LAST 45 YEARS HAVE MADE THE AREA SOUTH OF SILVER WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED MORE RESIDENTIAL WITH NO NEW COMMERCIAL ZONING. SO WHAT DOES THE ZONE CHANGE DO? IT WOULD MAKE THE APPLICANTS TWO LOTS THE FIRST PARCELS REZONED FOR COMMERCIAL SOUTH SINCE THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. THAT FACT BECAUSE CITY POLICY SIN PLACE FOR MORE THAN 45 YEARS TO MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE AREA SOUTH OF SILVER INCLUDING THE APPLICANT TWO LOTS. UHA REPEATED THOSE FACTS AND POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE ZONE CHANGE POLICIES. THE APPLICANT AND EPC DID NOT DISPUTE THE FACTS WHICH ARE UNCONTESTED. WHY ARE WE APPEALING? WE'RE APPEALING BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DID NOT DO WHAT IS REQUIRED TO SECURE A ZONE CHANGE BY THE IDO SECTION 14-16-6-7G3 WHICH IS ON THIS SLIDE. THE APPLICANT MUST DEMONSTRATE -- THE NEW ZONE WITH CLEARLY REINFORCE OR STRENGTHEN THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH CONSISTENCY AND NOT PERMIT DEVELOPMENT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE CHARACTER. FURTHER THE APPLICANT MUST ALSO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY CONDITIONS EFFECTING THE SITE FOR A DIFFERENT ZONED DISTRICT IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COMMUNITY. THE APPLICANT DID NOT DEMONSTRATE ANY OF THOSE THINGS, SO THE EPC SHOULD HAVE DENIED THE ZONE CHANGE. THE APPLICANT DID SAY THAT THERE WERE CHANGE CONDITIONS. BUT ONLY LISTED CHANGES IN THE AREA OF CHANGE NORTH OF SILVER NOT IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS CONSISTENTLY SOUTH OF SILVER. QUOTE FROM THE APPLICATION, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE BRICK LIGHT DISTRICT, REIMAGINED HARVARD DRIVE DROJT, THE UNIVERSITY MRA, AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS. THE BRICK LIGHT DISTRICT IS NORTH OF SILVER IN THE AREA OF CHANGE. THE REIMAGINED HARVARD DRIVE PROJECT IS NORTH OF SILVER IN THE AREA OF CHANGE. THERE WERE NO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS OF RECENT MIXED USE PROJECT IDENTIFIED IN THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY. THE EPC FINDING STATES THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATED THE EXISTING ZONING IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE OF CRITERIA TWO AND THREE, THERE HAVE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY CONDITIONS AFFECTING THE SITE AND DIFFERENT ZONE DISTRICT IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE COMMUNITY AS ARTICULATED IN THE COMP PLAN. THE EPC WAS RELYING ON THE AREA OF CHANGE RATHER THAN CONSISTENCY. THE APPLICANT DID MENTION AT THE SIGNIFICANT CONDITION OF CHANGE, THE UNIVERSITY METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED, THAT'S THE BLUE AREA ON THIS MAP. UHA POINTED OUT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS THE ZONE CHANGE PROCESS, THE LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS SOUTH OF SILVER SHOULD BE PRESERVED. THE APPLICATION AND EPC FINDINGS IGNORED THAT FACT, DID NOT DISCUSS IT. AT THE EPC HEARING THE APPARENT REASON WAS TO IGNORE THE STATEMENT BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH. HOWEVER HOW CAN THE UMRA BE A CHANGE CONDITION THAT IS CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AS THE APPLICANT STATED, BUT ALSO ALL THE FACTS AND STATEMENTS IN THE MRA BE IGNORED? THE UNIVERSITY -- UMRA STATES THERE'S AVAILABLE SPACE DESIGNED FOR RESTAURANTS, RETAIL AND SERVICE BUSINESSES AROUND 25% OF COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD AREA IS VACANT. UHA POINTED OUT THE FACT, THE APPLICANT IGNORED THE FACT AND DIDN'T DISCUSS IT. THE APPLICANT AND EPC MADE NO ARGUMENT THAT ADDING MORE COMMERCIAL ZONE CHANGE WOULD POSITIVELY AFFECT THE COMMERCIAL VACANCY PROBLEM WHICH WAS A MAJOR REASON TO ESTABLISH THE MRA. IN FACT ADDING MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GOALS TO THE MRA. THE RECORD DOES NOT SUPPORT THE EPC FINDINGS AND DECISION AND THE APPEAL SHOULD BE GRANTED. MY TIME IS UP, BUT I'LL HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. NEXT, THIS IS TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT. >> I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M PRINCIPLE OF CONSENSUS PLANNING. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS. I WANT TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN THE EPC APPLICATION AND WHAT I THINK HAPPENED. AND WHY I BELIEVE THE EPC AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WERE CORRECT IN THIS CASE. IN 2008, THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FROM UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS METHODIST CHURCH. THE PRIOR ZONING WAS SU2 RESIDENTIAL ON THE EAST HALF, BUT THE WEST HALF WAS PARKING. THE WEST HALF WAS PART OF THE SPECIAL USE FOR CHURCH AND RELATED ACTIVITIES, AND THEN IN 2010 THE WEST PORTION WAS REZONED TO PARKING. EASTERN PORTION REMAINED SU2 FOR DR. WHY I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THE WESTERN PORTION OF THIS TRACT IS AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. IT IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IN THE NATURE. AND EVEN THOUGH IDO REZONED THE PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY LOAD, THE PARKING LOT REMAINS AS A LEGAL NON-COMPLAINT USE. THAT'S A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. A THIRD OF AN ACRE. OUR REQUEST IS CHANGE THE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL MIXED DENSITY MULTIFAMILY LOW, TO MIXED USE LOW INTENSITY MXL. RESIDENTIAL USES ARE ALLOWED IN BOTH OF THOSE ZONES. NO DIFFERENCE, REALLY. THE PROPOSED USE COFFEE SHOP BREAKFAST RESTAURANT AND GATHERING SPACE ARE NOT PERMISSIVE IN THE RML ZONE. THE HEIGHT DISTRICT IN BOTH RML AND MXL IS THE SAME AT 38 FEET. SILVER AVENUE IS A BICYCLE BOULEVARD WITH 18 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. THIS PROJECT WOULD BE AN ATTRACTION ALONG THE BIKE BOULEVARD AND WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO THAT SPACE. TRANSIT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND IT IS A FIVE-MINUTE WALK TO THE ART TRANSIT STATION. WITH REGARD TO ZONING AND LAND USE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE MAPS AND IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND BEEN A PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BY THE WAY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A USE OF USES AND MIX OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING. IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S LOT OF DIFFERENT DENSITIES AND HOUSING TYPES THROUGHOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE ZONE CHANGE WILL SUPPORT SURROUNDING HOUSING, RETAIL EDUCATION AND TRANSPORTATION USES. ONCE AGAIN, FIVE-MINUTE FROM ART STATION, IT'S ALONG THE BICYCLE BOULEVARD AND ADJACENT TO -- RIGHT ON THE BONDRY BETWEEN THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY AND AREA OF CHANGE. I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. SOME KEY POINTS TO ADDRESS FROM THE APPEAL. I'LL START WITH THIS. MR. HANCOCK INDICATED THAT WE DID NOT DO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IN RESPONSE TO THAT THE CITY STAFF REVIEWED OUR APPLICATION, THEY REVIEWED THE JUSTIFICATION AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THEY REVIEW WHAT WE DID AND THEY AGREED WITH IT AND THEY RECOMMENDED TO THE EPC THAT THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT SHOULD BE APPROVED. THE EPC CONDUCTED A FULL HEARING AND WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE POINTS, AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THE RECORD, AND LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF TESTIMONY AND NOT JUST TESTIMONY FROM MYSELF OR MR. HANCOCK, BUT TESTIMONY IN TERMS OF THE DELIBERATION BETWEEN EPC MEMBERS AND STAFF AND THEIR ATTORNEY AS TO WHAT SOME OF THESE ITES MEANT TO THAT DECISION. THEY DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB OF ANALYZING THE SITUATION AND THEY VOTED TO APPROVE IT. THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IS DIVERSE, ONCE AGAIN, NOT A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TWO TO FOUR AND EVEN FIVE RESIDENTS, PROPERTIES IN THE AREA. THERE'S SOME MULTIFAMILY, THERE'S ALSO COMMERCIAL AND SERVICES IN THE AREA. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AT 201 AND 203 HARVARD ARE NOT WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY METROPOLITAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARIES. THIS WAS A POINT OF CONVERSATION AT THE HEARING. AND THE EPC DETERMINED, BASED ON INPUT FROM STAFF AND INPUT FROM THEIR ATTORNEY THAT THE MRA PLAN WAS NOT RELEVANT TO ITS DECISION. AND THAT'S FOUND ON PAGE 221 OF THE RECORD. 305 GIRARD SOUTHEAST WAS A CASE THAT MR. HANCOCK BROUGHT UP TO THE EPC THAT HE USED AS AN EXAMPLE TO SET PRECEDENT. IN FACT, THAT CASE IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THIS ONE. AND THE STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THAT APPLICATION BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES RELATED TO SCALE. SO THAT CASE WAS A CASE WHERE THE ZONE CHANGE WAS FROM RT TO RML. THE HEIGHT LIMIT WAS GOING TO GO FROM 26 FEET TO 38 FEET. THE DENSITY WOULD CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY. ONCE AGAIN, IN THIS CASE THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS THE SAME AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWED IN THE TWO ZONE DISTRICTS ARE THE SAME. THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY INCLUDES A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES AND ZONES. SO, THE MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE CITY'S AREA OF CHANGE VERSUS THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY. AREA OF CHANGE IS ORANGE, AREA OF YELLOW IS CONSISTENCY. IN A LOT OF PARTS IN THE CITY, THIS IS CHARACTERIZED CONSISTENCY IS CHARACTERIZED BY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THIS CASE, THAT'S NOT THE SITUATION. YOU CAN LOOK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING ZONING AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING WITHIN THAT YELLOW AREA OF CONSISTENCY. I THINK THAT'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN SOMETHING THAT THE LUHO FAILED TO ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE SURE MY CLIENT HAS THE MOST -- ENOUGH TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU AT THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. IN CONCLUSION, STAFF ANALYZED OUR APPLICATION, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND THE EPC APPROVED THE ZMA AFTER EXTENSIVE HEARING AND DELIBERATION. SEVERAL PROPERTIES SOUTH OF SILVER AVENUE ARE ZONED MXL, MIXED RESIDENTIAL TYPES AND COMMERCIAL USES. ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE ARE ALSO ZONED MXL. THIS WOULD NOT BE A SPOT ZONE. THAT WAS IMPORTANT PART OF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND VIEW OF THE APPLICATION. THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONE FROM RML TO MXL FURTHERS SEVERAL OF THE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THOSE ARE FINDINGS FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, PAGES AND 40 AND 41 OF THE RECORD. THE USES PERMISSIVE IN THE MXL ZONE ARE CONSISTENT AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD POINT OUT IN THE RECORD WE HAD A FACILITATED MEETING AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. AND THAT MEETING WAS WELL ATTENDED BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BOARD AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FACILITATED MEETING REPORT, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE CONCERNS RAISED, OVERALL IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE MEETING WITH A NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE ATTENDED AND BOARD MEMBERS THAT ATTENDED SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THIS WAS A UNIVERSALLY OPPOSED APPLICATION FROM THE START. POTENTIALLY HARMFUL USES, THIS IS ANOTHER AREA DELIBERATED BY THE EPC. AND THERE ARE -- I'M NOT SAYING THERE ARE NOT POTENTIALLY HARMFUL USES IN THE MXL, BUT BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THE USE-SPECIFIC STANDARDS EMBEDDED IN THE IDO WOULD PREVENT THOSE FROM OCCURRING IN THIS LOCATION. WE'RE PROTECTED FROM THAT ASPECT AS WELL. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY CLIENTS. AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH MY WIFE. I'M HERE WITH THREE YOUNG ENTREPRENEURS WHO I'M TEAMING WITH, MENTORING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, JUST BEING AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP AND BUILD, NOT A COFFEE SHOP, NOT A BREAKFAST REST WANT, BUT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP. ONE OF THE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I SERVED ON THE SAME BOARD WITH MR. HANCOCK FOR NEARLY TEN YEARS, IS THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SLOWLY DYING. IT'S DYING A SLOW DEATH. THIS IS OUR CONTRIBUTION TO TRY TO SHIFT THE DIRECTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. THE AMOUNT OF THEFT, BURGLARY, CRIME, DRUG USE, HOMELESSNESS, IS LITERALLY TAKEN APART, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT IS OUR CONTRIBUTION. WE THINK THERE ARE LOT OF ARGUMENTS LEFT AND RIGHT HERE. LITERALLY IT'S THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL TO SAY DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. WE COULD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. WE HAVE A PLANNING STAFF. YOU HAVE PRESENTATION OR JUST TAKE QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY. WITHOUT SLIDES. I'M THE MANAGER FOR THE STAFF THAT SERVED EPC IN THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT. ON MARCH 21, 2024EPC FOUND ADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO APPROVE THE ZONE CHANGE ON HARVARD BASED ON FINDINGS ONE THROUGH ELEVEN. LUHO TOOK ISSUE WITH SEVERAL FINDINGS I WOULD LIKE TO. NUMBER ONE THEY BASED THE CONCLUSION ON THE UNIVERSITY RIGHTS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WHICH AS YOU HEARD DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. PLANNING STAFF WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT PLANS CAN UNDERSTAND THE BROADER CONTEXT AND DESIGN FOR THE AREA WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO APPLY THE MRA PLANNED TO THIS LAND USE DECISION GIVEN IT FALLS OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES AND MRA PLANS ARE INTENDED TO GUIDE CITY INVESTMENTS REGARDED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. NOT PRIVATE ECONOMIC VENTURE OR CITY LAND USE DECISION. EPC FINDING NUMBER FIVE REFERRED TO COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACE. PLANNING STAFF IN RECOMMENDING THE FINDING SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CAREFUL TO WORD THIS NOT TO IDENTIFY LAND USE IN IDO BUT TO THE WAY A RESTAURANT CAN BE APPROPRIATE AND BENEFICIAL LAND USE FOR SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES. NUMBER THREE, IN GENERAL, THE CRUX OF THIS CASE IS THE REVIEW AND DECISION CRITERIAEN OF WHETHER A MIXED USE, LOW INTENSITY ZONE DISTRICT ALLOWING NONRESIDENTIAL USES CAN ACTUALLY REINFORCE AND STRENGTHEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN AN AREA OF CONSISTENCY AS STATED IN EPC FINDING 10B. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AREAS OF CONSISTENCY ARE NOT SUNOMINOUS WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. MIXED USE AND NONRESIDENTIAL AREAS OUTSIDE OF CENTERS AND CORRIDORS CAN ALSO BE PART OF AREAS OF CONSISTENCY. LUHO CONCLUDED THAT ONLY MORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CAN REINFORCEMENT AND STRENGTHEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. EPC FINDING NUMBER FIVE AND EIGHT CITED COMPS AND GOALS AND POLICIES THAT SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT LOW INTENSITY, NONRESIDENTIAL BUSINESSES AND SERVICES ARE NOT ONLY COMPATATIVE WITH BUT CAN BENEFIT RESIDENTS AND SHOULD BE LOCATED IN WALKABLE DISTANCES. SAID ANOTHER WAY, THE INTRODUCTION OF MIXED USE ZONING IN ITSELF DOES NOT WEAKEN AN AREA OF CONSISTENCY AND CAN FURTHER GOALS FOR COMPLETE COMMUNITIES AND EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING. THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THIS ZONE CHANGE IS A POLICY CALL. AND HINGES ON THE SPECIFICS OF THIS SITE AND THIS LOCATION. REGARDLESS OF THE COUNCIL DECISION THIS EVENING, PLANNING STAFF WOULD REQUEST FINDINGS THAT ADDRESS UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS INAPPROPRIATE TO BE USED IN THIS ZONE CHANGE. IN GENERAL, A RESTAURANT CAN BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND CAN BENEFIT RESIDENTS. AND MIXED USE ZONES CAN PROVIDE BUSINESSES AND SERVICES COMPATIBLE, COMPLEMENTARY, AND BENEFICIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL GO -- IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW FOR THE PLANNING STAFF, CAN WE DO THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I SUGGEST CLOSING OUT THE LAST TWO MINUTES OF THE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. GET THE APPELLANT TIME. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. JUST A FEW POINTS. THE UMRA AI MENTIONED WAS BROUGHT UP FIRST IN THE APPLICANTS AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE AREA. IF YOU TAKE IT OUT, THAT'S FINE. YOU TAKE OUT LUHO FINDING NUMBER EIGHT THAT RELATES TO THE UMRA. THAT'S FINE. THE REST OF THE FINDINGS ARE FINE, AND STILL AS WE POINTED OUT, THE APPLICANT WAS WRONG, EPC WAS WRONG, IT'S 45 YEARS OF POLICY THAT YES INCLUDES BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL, BUT FOR 45 YEARS ALL THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL, TO REINFORCE AND ENFORCE RESIDENTIAL AREA OF NATURE OF THE AREA. THAT'S UNCONTESTED. THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME A CHANGE, A MAJOR CHANGE IN POLICY FROM THE STANDPOINT AND NEIGHBORHOOD STANDPOINT WOULD BE MADE. THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT. ALL THE ZONING CHANGES IN THOSE 45 YEARS, AS WE SAID IN OUR SLIDE, WAS TO MAKE THE AREA MORE RESIDENTIAL. BOTH -- ALL OF THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY INCLUDING THAT AREA AS I MENTIONED ALONG YALE WHICH DOES HAVE COMMERCIAL, HAS HAD COMMERCIAL. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE PARKING LOT ISSUE. THE RECORD SHOWS PARKING WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1966 FOR THE CHURCH. SO, IT HAD THAT USE SINCE 1956. THIS IS NOT A CHANGE CONDITION. FINALLY, WE BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT ERRORED, THE EPC ERRORED, PARTICULARLY THE FINDINGS, AND NUMBER TEN ARE CLEARLY WRONG. THE APPLICANT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT. THE CHANGES CITED ARE ALL IN AREA OF CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE REQUIRES THEM TO BE IN THE AREA OF CONSISTENCY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATIONS. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE APPEAL? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I AMMING -- I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. PERCHER OF THE PROPERTY, DID HE DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER -- DID HE DO THE RESEARCH PRIOR TO? I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU KNEW WHAT THAT WAS PRIOR TO BUYING THE PROPERTY OR DID YOU ALREADY OWN IT? >> I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS -- PORTION OF IT WAS TWO HOUSES. AND TWO-THIRDS WAS A PARKING LOT FOR CHURCH HOUSE. I HAD THE ZONE CHANGE FROM THE PITY TO PARKING. AND THE CITY CHANGED TO RML. WHICH DOESN'T ALLOW US TO BUILD A RESTAURANT OR COFFEE SHOP. SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO BUILD THE MAGNITUDE OF THE FACILITY WE WANT, WHICH IS THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP IN THE DYING NEIGHBORHOOD, WE NEED THE ZONE CHANGE IN ORDER TO DO THAT. MR. HANCOCK, POINTS TO THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD BUILD MORE RESIDENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY, BUT TWO-THIRDS HAVE NEVER BEEN RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ALREADY A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT IT AND WHY WE'RE DEVELOPING IT THAT WAY. MR. HANCOCK ALSO MENTIONED THERE'S SURROUNDING VACANT PROPERTIES FOR OTHERS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY RENT OR BUY, BUT WE CAN'T BUILD THE MAGNITUDE OF THE FACILITY TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN ONE OF THOSE. WE OWN THE PROPERTY, WE INVESTED IN IT, WE NEED THE PROPERTY ZONED TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHICH IS TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING, COUNCIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. HANCOCK. YOU'RE APPEALING ON BEHALF OF THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE IN THE ASSOCIATION? >> APPROXIMATELY 90 AT THIS POINT. WHO ARE REGISTERED MEMBERS UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNITION ORDINANCE. >>COUN. ROGERS: HAVE YOU POLLED ALL THE MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR STANCE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT? >> NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER FOR 45 YEARS, I EMPHASIZE, THE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED. YES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT ISSUE WITH SILVER BEING A DIVIDING LINE. NORTH OF SILVER AREA OF CHANGE. SOUTH OF SILVER AREA OF CONSISTENCY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE MORE QUESTION. IN PLAIN TERMS, WHAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PROBLEM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT? >> IT'S PUTTING COMMERCIAL INTO AN AREA THAT SHOULDN'T BE COMMERCIAL. AND IT SETS THE PRECEDENT IF THESE TWO LOTS CAN BE SWITCHED IN AN AREA OF CONSISTENCY CAN BE SWITCHED TO COMMERCIAL, THERE ARE, AS I MENTIONED AND SHOWED ON THE MAP, THERE ARE HUNDREDS, LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF SIMILAR LOTS IN THE AREA. TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DOING WELL, AND GROWING, AND EXPANDING IS THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS THE MRA SHOWED IT'S THE COMMERCIAL AREAS HAVING TROUBLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEED TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN AND NOT DEG RUIDATE THE RESIDENTIAL ZONED AREAS BY ADDING COMMERCIAL. WHETHER TWO LOTS AT A TIME, OR MANY LOTS AT A TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. HANCOCK, HOW MANY ACTIVE MEMBERS? HOW OFTEN DO YOU MEET, HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP? >> THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD MEETS MONTHLY. WE HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING THAT OCCURS IN JANUARY EVERY YEAR. THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT GO ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING THIS SATURDAY A LITTLE PLUG, THE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD WALK IS GOING TO BE IN OUR AREA TO, WHICH PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE INVOLVED WITH AND PEOPLE FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL COME IN. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT YOU DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE? >> YES, AS THE RECORD INDICATES. BOARD MET SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS. FIRST VOTED TO OPPOSE THE ZONE CHANGE WHICH WE PRESENTED AT EPC. AND SEPARATELY, AFTERWARDS AT A MEETING THAT MR. GRACE ATTENDED VOTED TO FILE THIS APPEAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: HOW MANY MEMBERS OF YOUR BOARD? >> THERE ARE A TOTAL OF TEN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, TOTAL OF EIGHT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WEIGHED IN ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WERE YOU ALL APART OF THE PRELIMINARY MEETINGS WITH THE LANDOWNER AND YOU WERE PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL? >> YES, I PARTICIPATED IN A FACILITATED MEETING AS OTHER PEOPLE BOTH IN THE BOARD AND NEIGHBORHOOD DID. YES, WE PARTICIPATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WHICH IS FRANKLY WHY WE'RE SO DISAPPOINTED THAT THE FACT THAT WE PRESENTED, WHICH WERE UNCONTESTED, WERE NOT CONSIDERED, THERE WERE NO FINDINGS ABOUT THEM AT ALL BY THE EPC, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. COUNCILORS, OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IS THE PLAN TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY AND REBUILD A NEW FACILITY? OR RENOVATE THE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS? >> WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED ARCHITECTS FROM DISNEY TO HELP US DO THE PRE-PLANNING. THE PLAN IS TO KEEP THE TWO HOUSES INTACT TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE FACADE, AND BUILD ON TO THAT SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPING, COURT YARDS WATER FEATURES, SITTING AREAS. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL, THAT WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT. I MIGHT ALSO ADD, AT THE MEETING WHERE THEY VOTED TO APPEAL, THERE WERE ONLY FOUR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THERE. THE VOTE WAS 2-2. THE VOTE WAS 2-2. IF IT WAS 2-2 WE WOULDN'T BE SITTING HERE. WE WOULD HAVE THE ZONING CHANGE. ONE OF THE MEMBERS CALLED ANOTHER MEMBER TO JOIN THE MEETING AFTERWARD IN ORDER TO VOTE 3-2. THAT'S THE WAY I RECALL IT. THERE WASN'T OVERWHELMING DETRACTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS LITERALLY 2-2 AND THE VOTE WAS ADDED SO THEY COULD GET THE APPROVAL OF THE APPEAL, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY UNFAIR AND I PROTESTED WITH MR. HANCOCK ON THAT DAY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, ALSO, SIR, MR. GRACE, ARE YOU PLANNING ON BUILDING UP, ARE YOU PLANNING ON EX-PAPPEDING TO THE PARKING LOT? IS THERE STILL PARKING? WHAT IS THE VISION? >> THERE'S TWO HOUSES SIDE BY SIDE. WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE IN BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES UP WHICH IS WHY WE NEED RMXL TO GO TO THE HEIGHT. AND THERE'S A PLAN FOR ONE ADDITIONAL BUILDING, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS SIMPLY SITTING AREAS, LANDSCAPING, WATER FEATURES, ET CETERA. WE EVEN HAVE A NAME FOR IT. IT'S CALLED THE THIRD PLACE. S THE NO ALCOHOL. JUST QUALITY MEETING SPACE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GO TO PLACES LIKE THIS. IT'S LITERALLY GOING TO BE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IS IT GOING TO BE FOR-PROFIT? >> IT WILL BE FOR PROFIT. FOR-PROFIT ENTITY, OUR PARTNERS HAVE AGREED TO CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF THE PROJECTS TO OTHER ENDEAVORS, INCLUDING -- I CAN GO ON AND ON. BUT OTHER ENTITIES. >>COUN. BASSAN: LAST QUESTION. WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP? >> IF THERE WAS A MAGAZINE THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOPS, OUR GOALS, STANDARDS, QUALITY STANDARDS IS TO MAKE IT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP. IN THE VOLUME IT'S GOING TO BE A MAGNIFICENT STRUCTURE. SOMETHING YOU WOULD PROBABLY NOT SEE IN ALBUQUERQUE. MAYBE SOMETHING SIMILAR IN THE SAWMILL. WE'VE BEEN TO LISBON, WE'VE BEEN TOBURSE BARCELONA, LONDON, WE'VE TAKEN ALL THE EXAMPLES WE'VE SEEN AND OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO MAKE IT WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE EPC HAD FINDINGS. OF COURSE THEY APPROVED IT. IF THE MOTION WAS MADE TONIGHT TO DENY THE APPEAL OF THE FINDINGS, WE CAN SIMPLY ADOPT THE FINDING OF THE EPC? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IS THERE A MOTION? >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE MORE QUESTION. CAN WE HAVE THE SLIDE THAT HE SHOWED WITH THE TIMELINE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE PROCESS QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. THE SLIDE THAT STARTED IN 2008 WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED. >> IT WAS SLIDE NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION AROUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT, ZONING AND THE OTHER HOUSING SIDE. TYPICALLY, WHAT WOULD WE DO IN THAT CASE IF THEY PURCHASED IT WEP THE ZONING WAS RIGHT FOR WHAT THEY INTENDED IT FOR, BUT WE CHANGED THE ZONING TO BE OPPOSITE ON THE SAME OWNER? >> THIS -- >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE MORE BACK. FOR ME. -- FOR ME WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS THE PURCHASE, WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWABLE? >> SO, NO. ON PART OF IT, I THINK THE MAIN POINT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE HERE WAS THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL USE. THAT BEING THE PARKING LOT. AT THAT TIME, THE ZONING ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY SU1 FOR CHURCH AND RELATED ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT THAT WAS THERE WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE CHURCH. SO, IN ITS USE. THE ZONING REFLECTED THAT. MR. GRACE, AFTER HE PURCHASED IT, WE REZONED BECAUSE IT WAS NO LONGER APART OF THE CHURCH, HE REZONED THE PARKING LOT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO AN OLD ZONE WE DIDN'T USE A LOT BACK THEN AND CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE IT NOW AND THAT WAS P FOR PARKING. WHEN THE IDO CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2017, THE PROP WAS REZONED TO RML, AND ON MY ABBREVIATIONS, RML WHICH IS ONCE AGAIN -- THEY FELT THAT EQUIVALENT OF THE DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT WAS PART OF THE SECTOR PLAN. ONLY HALF OF THE PROPERTY OR LESS THAN HALF OF THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY ZONED DIVERSE RESIDENTIAL. >>COUN. ROGERS: ONE LAST FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WHAT HAS BEEN TO COMPROMISE SO THAT WE CAN GET TO SOMETHING WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH? >> I MEAN, I THINK MR. GRACE HAS BEEN APART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME. HE WAS ON THE BOARD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HE CARES VERY DEERLY -- DEARLY ABOUT IT. I BELIEVE HIS GOAL AND WHAT WE EXPRESSED AT THE FIRST MEETING WAS TO DO A PROJECT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE PROUD OF, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PARTICIPATE IN AND BE CUSTOMERS AT ALONG WITH, AND BASICALLY TAKE THIS PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOVE IT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, GRANTED, BUT A POSITIVE ONE. I THINK HE ALWAYS FELT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A NET WIN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT A NEGATIVE. THAT'S HOW I THINK WE'VE PRESENTED IT. >>COUN. ROGERS: IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, MR. HANCOCK TO ANSWER THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT COMPROMISE. >> SO, WE'VE BEEN OFFERED NO COMPROMISE BY THE APPLICANTS. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN GLAD AT ANY POINT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY MORE MEET THEIR DESIRES. I MUST MAKE THE POINT -- THIS ZONE CHANGE IS NOT THE WORLD'S GREATEST COFFEE SHOP. THIS ZONE CHANGE IS FOR MIXED USES FOR A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES. YOU'RE NOT APPROVING A SITE PLAN. YOU'RE NOT APPROVING ANY SPECIFIC DESIGN. SO, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'VE NEVER EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DOING THAT, UNFORTUNATELY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> I'M SORRY. I DO NEED TO CORRECT THE RECORD. I'M SORRY TO DO THIS. THE RECORD IS QUITE CLEAR, THE APRIL 5th LETTER IN THE RECORD FROM THE UNIVERSITY HEIGHTS SHOWS WHAT THE VOTE OF THE BOARD WAS AT THE APPEAL THAT MR. GRACE WAS AT. IT WAS NEVER 2-2. THERE WERE SEVEN PEOPLE PRESENT. ALL OF THEM VOTED. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: WHAT WAS THE VOTE ON THAT? >> 4-3 AS REFLECTED IN THE RECORD. PER THE APPEAL. THE PREVIOUS VOTE WAS 5-1 TO OPPOSE THE ZONE CHANGE REQUEST. THIS IS IN THE RECORD. GOING TO THE EPC IT WAS 5-1 TO OPPOSE THE ZONE CHANGE, THEN AFTER THE ZONE CHANGE APPROVAL BY EPC THE BOARD MET AGAIN WITH MR. GRACE PRESENT TO DISCUSS IT AND DECIDE WHETHER TO APPEAL THE USE OR NOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. HANCOCK. IT SEEMS LIKE THESE ARE TWO HOMES THAT COULD BE HABITED BY HUMAN BEINGS. WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NEED TO PRESERVE HOUSING IN THAT AREA? >> WE NEED TO MAINTAIN HOUSING WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN TERMS OF CHANGE CONDITIONS IS HAVING NEW HOUSING BUILT AND FORMER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM BY THE WAY, WITHIN A BLOCK OF THE PROPERTY, CONVERTING THEM FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL SO WE'RE ADDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD HOPED WOULD BE MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THESE TWO LOTS. IF THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGES DEVELOPMENT, MAKE THE WORLDEST GREATEST RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THOSE TWO LOTS. THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY FINE. WE ARE TOTALLY GOOD WITH THAT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTED OTHER RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN THE AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO SUPPORTED THE MIXED USE KINDS OF PROPERTIES NORTH OF SILVER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. INCLUDING THE BRICK LIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO DENY THE APPEAL AND ADOPT THE FINDING OF THE EPC. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CLOSE DISCUSSION. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO -- WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO O-42. RIGHT WHEN WE START. IF -- HEAR ME ON THIS. IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR O-42. WE'LL START WITH YOU ALL. IF YOU'RE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT LATER AFTER THIS BILL. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ON O-42, AND YOU'D LIKE TO GO FROM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO SPEAK ON O-42, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND TALK TO MR. CORNELIUS. IF YOU'RE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON BOTH, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO START AT 8:05 SHARP. WE'LL TAKE A RECESS. THANKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ON O-42. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-42, RENAISSANCE AND PROGRESS FOR DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. IF WE CAN GET THE TITLE FOR THE VIEWERS TO SEE. ADOPTING THE VACANT PROPERTY. AND NO OBINSTRUCTION ZONE ORDINANCE. ALONG WITH TRAFFIC CODE. LET'S WAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO READ. I'LL START WITH A QUICK STATEMENT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I SAID THIS BEFORE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I SAID THIS BEFORE, RUNNING JOKE IS THE ONLY THING IN ALBUQUERQUE PEOPLE HATE MORE THAN THE STATUS QUO IS CHANGE. OUR CITY IS HAVING SOME CHALLENGES. WE'RE STRUGGLING. AND EVERYONE HERE RECOGNIZES THAT. LAST WEEK THIS COUNCIL VOTED DOWN A BILL THAT WOULD HAVE SET LIMITS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN DISTRICT TWO AND SIX. SOME THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPACTING SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH CAN BE TRUE. WHEN YOU HAVE 80 SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SUCH AS BARELAS THAT'S IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE HOUSING CRISIS. BOTH THINGS CAN BE SIMULTANEOUSLY TRUE. IT CAN BE TRUE THAT -- IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT AN EMPTY DERELICT BUILDING IS A MAGNET FOR CRIME. OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS ARE WORTHY OF OUR COMPASSION AND SUPPORT. -- MULTIPLE CONFLICTING ISSUES CAN BE TRUE SIMULTANEOUSLY. AS THE CITY WEBSITE SAYS, CITY COUNCIL IS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY FOR THE WELFARE OF PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. MEANING OUR DUTY IS TO EVERYONE. HOW DO YOU BALANCE OUR CONFLICTING NEEDS? DO NOTHING IS NOT THE ANSWER. ONE WE CAN PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY ASK FOR AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY'RE NOT SHOWING SUCCESS. WE DO DO THAT. TWO, EARLIER THIS YEAR WE CHANGED ZONING FEES TO SUPPORT DEVELOPERS BUILDING HOUSING IN THE MRA ZONE. WE CHANGED ORDINANCES TO MAKE IT EASIER TO CONDEMN PRIVATE PROPERTIES. WE'RE WORKING TO BUILD DIGNITY FOR RESTROOMS AND HOUSING FOR ADDICTION TREATMENT AND HOLDING THOSE ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY COMMIT A CRIME LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. THREE, WE CAN WRITE THE NEW ORDNANCES THAT WILL GIVE US THE TOOLS TO AFFECT THE CHANGE WE NEED. THIS IS THE-AIR WE'RE NOT SUCCEEDING. WE VOTE DOWN SO MANY ATTEMPTS AT CHANGE. NO ONE PERSON OR GROUP WITH SOLVE THE ISSUES. WE HAVE A ROLE IN THIS. WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER. WE'RE A TEAM. THE VERY FACT THAT EVERY GROUP IN THIS ROOM IS ANGRY TELLS ME I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK. WE ALL HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING WHILE RECEIVING SOMETHING WE NEED. DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESS FOLKS HAVE BEEN ASKING TO HELP WITH CRIME IS AND SAFETY. NOTHING IN THIS BILL IS NEW. POLICY KURNTLY EXIST IN LAS VEGAS, DENVER, TUCSON, THEY'RE TAILORED TO FIT ALBUQUERQUE. I'VE MET WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WERE RESIDENCES, UNHOUSED ADVOCATES. I HELD A TOWN HALL, AND REACHED OUT FOR MEDIA AND WE'RE ADDING SEVERAL REASONABLE AMENDMENTS THAT PEOPLE ASKED FOR. MANY WHO SPEAK TONIGHT WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL, BUSINESSES RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN. THESE ARE THE TOOLS AND HELP THEY REPEATEDLY ASKED ME FOR. MANY WILL SPEAK AGAINST IT DO NOT LIVE DOWNTOWN. IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR CITY COUNCIL TO VOTE ON BILLS. EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK HAS A ROLE TO PLAY. YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANSWERS. AND IT HAS TO BE A GAVE AND TAKE. IF THEY'RE EASY WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT ALREADY. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE LARGER PROBLEMS. UNDERSTAND HOW POVERTY, HOUSING, ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND DRUGS INTERSECT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE CONFLICTS. IF YOU'VE COMPLAINED ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT CRIME AND SAFETY BUT YOU'RE AGAINST THIS BILL, YOU SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING. IF YOU WANT A GROCERY STORE OR PHARMACY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT YOU'RE AGAINST THIS BILL, YOU NEED TO STOP COMPLAINING. I VERY MUCH DO NOT TAKE LIKELY MY OBLIGATION TO OUR MOST VULNERABLE, AND THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF THROUGH A PLANNED IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL THAT RESPECTS DIGNITY AND HUMANITY. THIS BILL IS AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE THE TOOLS THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO ALL STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED. A STATEMENT WE NEED TO GIVE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DIFFICULT CHOICES THAT WILL ALLOW ALBUQUERQUE TO THRIVE. I DON'T TAKE ANY OF THIS LIGHTLY. I BELIEVE WE CAN DO THIS. I NEED EVERYONE'S HELP. WITH THAT SAID, I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S VOICE IS HEARD TONIGHT. THERE'S SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE COME FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FELLOW COUNCILORS. I WANT THOSE INTRODUCES TO DISCUSS THOSE. AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT DISCUSSION GOES. LIKELY, I SUSPECT WE'LL MOVE ON. THIS WILL CONTINUE AFTER TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR, I THINK WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF OUR STAFF JUST GAVE A BRIEF -- THIS BILL AND IT'S A PRETTY LARGE BILL. I KNOW IT DEALS WITH FOUR MAIN ASPECTS LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT ISSUES RELATED TO DOWNTOWN. I THINK IF YOU ALL CAN GIVE A RUN DOWN THROUGH THOSE FOUR ASPECTS OF THIS BILL, AND GIVE A GOOD SUMMARY OF IT. WITH SOME DETAIL. AND THEN I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE AS LEAST TO START FROM AND ASSUMING EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL, WE'VE STUDIED AND LOOKED AT THIS BILL FOR A GOOD WHILE NOW. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT EVEN AS THE PUBLIC COMES AND SPEAKS AND GIVES FEEDBACK THAT THEY HEAR THAT. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILORS, I'M GOING TO TRY AND GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. SECTION ONE, DOWNTOWN BUILDING AND PROPERTIES ORDINANCE. THIS SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE CREATES A REQUIRED VACANT PROPERTY REGISTRATION FOR THE DOWNTOWN CENTER AS DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE VACANT REGISTRATION FEE IS BASED OFF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF PROPERTY AREA AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY'RE VACANT. THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND CAN BE FOUND UNDER SECTION 14-24-7. AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE THERE'S A SECTION THAT ALLOWS FOR PRIVATE CAUSE OF ACTION THAT ALLOWS PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO BRING CIVIL ACTION IN COURT AGAINST PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER. SECTION THREE, DOWNTOWN DILAPIDATION ORDINANCE. BRINGS IN ALL PROPERTIES INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AND VACANT LOTS INCLUDING COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND VACANT LOTS AS BEG HELD TO STRICTER DILAPIDATION STANDARDS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER. WHAT CONSTITUTES A DELPIDATED STRUCTURE IS IN THE SECTION THREE OF THE BILL. ALSO, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BRING A SURVEY TO NOTIFY OWNERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IF THE PROPERTY IS OUT OF CONFORMITY WITH THE STANDARDS. THIS ORDINANCE CREATES REMEDIATION PROCESS THAT HAS FLEXIBLE TIMELINE THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DEEMED THE PROPERTY OWNERS EFFORTS SHOWING A GOOD FAITH EFFORT. IF NEEDED, HAVE SUBMITTED A BUILDING PERMIT THAT BRINGS THE PROPERTY INTO CONFORMITY. SECTION FIVE, NO OBSTRUCTION ZONE. WHERE THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY HAS AN ENVIRONMENT OR AREA THAT IS ALREADY DEEMED PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. UNDER 8-2-7-14-E2. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES OR STRUCTURE THAT ARE OBSTRUCTIVE. AND THERE'S LISTS UNDER SUBSECTION F. THE PENALTY FOR VIOLATION HAS BEEN COPIED FROM THE SPEED CAMERA ORDINANCE THAT CREATES $100 FINE OR FOUR HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. CITATION OF PARKED VEHICLE. THIS CREATES THE ABILITY FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT DIVISION TO DO AUTOMATED ENFORCEMENT BY SENDING A MAILED NOTICE RATHER THAN HAVING TO PUT A NOTICE ON A CAR. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: NOW, I'D LIKE YOU TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES. IF YOU SAY ONE SENTENCE THAT WOULD DESCRIBE EACH OF THOSE FOUR CATEGORIES, IF YOU COULD DO THAT. >> SECTION ONE, CREATES ANT -- VACANT REGISTRATION. -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THE VACANCY ISSUE WITH PENALTIES? >> IT IS A FINE. UNDER REGISTRATION FEE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S ONE CATEGORY. >> YUP. SECTION THREE. DOWNTOWN DILAPIDATION ORDINANCE, CREATES A SURVEY THAT LOOKS AT EVERY PROPERTY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER TO SEE IF IT MEETS THE DILAPIDATION CRITERIA LISTED UNDER THE SECTION. WHETHER THAT'S CRACKED FACADES, FEEDS, ANY UNSUITABLE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING. OR BROKEN WINDOWS, PLYWOOD. SECTION FIVE, NO OBSTRUCTION, PENALTIES FOR BLOCKING PEDESTRIAN FOOTPATHS. AND THE FOURTH IS PARKING ENFORCEMENT. AUTOMATED PARKING ENFORCEMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> FIRST SPEAKER IS ISAAC FOLLOWED BY ADAM. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK, THE TIMER WILL GO OFF AT ONE MINUTE. TRY TO STICK TO AT AS BEST WE CAN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE UP THE FULL MINUTE. IF YOU NAME IS CALLED, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND JUST SIT ON THE FIRST ROW AND BE READY TO SPEAK. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, 46 YEARS AGO I BOUGHT MY FIRST FAMILY HOME. IN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. SEEN A LOT OF UPS AND DOWNS IN DOWNTOWN SINCE WE'VE GET SOME GREAT YEARS. SOME YEARS WHEN LIVE MUSIC WAS THE CENTER OF THE ENTERTAINMENT THEME OF DOWNTOWN. WE HAD TIMES WHEN WE HAD GOOD SERVICES DOWNTOWN. AND THANK GOODNESS IN THE RECENT PAST WE HAD A GROCERY STORE DOWNTOWN AGAIN. THIS NIGHTLIFE SCENE HAS CHANGED SINCE THOSE DAYS. IT IS A ROUGHER SITUATION DOWNTOWN ON THE STREETS. ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKEND. AND FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING WHO HAVE INVESTED OR RENTING DOWNTOWN, WE'VE BUILT A LOT OF GOOD HOUSING DOWNTOWN. DESERVE TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY EXPECTATIONS AS ANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN TOWN. I REALLY THINK THIS BILL IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK OF DEALING WITH THE VACANT PROPERTY PROBLEM, WHICH IT GIVES AN INFERIOR FEELING OF SAFETY DOWNTOWN AND THE ISSUES OF FREE PASSAGE ON THE PUBLIC WAY WHICH WE SHOULD ALSO EXPECT IN DOWNTOWN. I SUPPORT THIS BILL. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR, GREAT TO SEE YOU. THANKS FOR COMING DOWN TONIGHT. >> ADAM FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM A DOWNTOWNER, I LIVE DOWNTOWN AND WORK DOWNTOWN. INVESTED LOTS OF TIME AND MONEY DIDN'T DOWNTOWN. THE SPIRIT OF THE BILL IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. CHANGE IS HARD. WE HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I BELIEVE THE FIRST PIECE OF THE BILL THE VACANT ORDINANCE NEEDS A FEW TWEAKS. S THE MEMBERS IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY AND BUILDING OWNER COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH ANYONE AND HELP REFINE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE CLEAR. IT'S NOT A LOT OF CONGRUENCE AND IN HOW THEY OPERATE. I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEND MY TIME WORKING WITH YOU GUYS ON THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. ON THE OBINSTRUCTION ZONE PIECE. I'M ALL FOR IT. I BELIEVE DOWNTOWN -- I LIVED IN DOWNTOWN FOR TEN YEARS. MY FRIENDS DON'T COUN TO COME DOWNTOWN. LIKE, THIS IS OUR HEART. IF WE DON'T CHANGE DOWNTOWN TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SITTING HERE TEN YEARS LATER WISHING WE DID. THANK YOU. >> ANAMI FOLLOWED BY COURTNEY. >> COUNCILOR BACA, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO TAKE A BIG SWING AND MISS. ESPECIALLY ON THIS ISSUE. I'M HERE TO OFFER A WAY OUT FOR THE COUNCIL OR AT LEAST THE -- KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD SITUATION WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE PROPER CONSIDERATION FOR HOUSES THAT AFFECT HUMAN RIGHTS IN OUR CITY. WHAT'S THE DEMOGRAPHIC OF THE MAKE UP OF THE PARTS OF TOWN AFFECTED. DOES THIS BILL UNINTENTIONALLY SET DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT RACIAL GROUPS OR GENDERS. ALL THAT STUFF. I ALSO THINK THE ADAAC SHOULD LOOK AT THIS. BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS THAT IT PRESENTS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE LIKE IMMEDIATE AND VERY REAL. PEOPLE WHO PROTEST, OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, ARE AT RISK. I REQUEST YOU DEFER OR WITHDRAW THIS AND PROVIDE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME NECESSARY TO REVIEW THE BILL. >> COURTNEY FOLLOWED BY DANIEL. >> GOOD EVENING. THE DOWNTOWN STRIP HAS BEEN A CULTURAL -- THROUGHOUT MY LIFE. IT'S A SPOT I FREQUENTED FOR DECADES. AND IT NO LONGER FEELS SAFE. NOT BECAUSE OF THE PRESENCE OF THE POOR, BUT I FEEL UNSAFE DUE TO THE FENCING OF THE SPACE, INYESED POLICE PRESENCE. WHO ARE THE SENTINELS OF A HOSTILE LANDSCAPE. THE STATE IS TAKING A STRONG ARM APPROACH TO DISPLACE THE COMMUNITIES IN THE NAME OF GREED. IT DIDN'T LONG FOR THE GRAPT'S PASS DECISION TO REVEAL THE HEARTLESSNESS, APATHY, AND LACK OF COMPASSION BY LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS. REST AND SLEEP ARE BIOLOGICAL NECESSITIES IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE. CLEANING UP OUR STREETS THREATENS THE VERY LIFE OF OUR UNIQUE COMMUNITIES. INCREASING POLICE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE HARM BY THE STATE. WHEN WERE THE LAST TIME THE COUNCIL HAVE TAKEN A MOMENT TO HEAR THE STORIES, LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS. THEY'RE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. STOP DEHUMANIZING THE POOR. OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT TRASH. STOP DISCOUNTING THE EXPERIENCES AND STRUGGLES. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> DANIEL FOLLOWED BY DOWING. -- DOUG. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, I'M A POLICY ADVOCATE AT THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF NEW MEXICO. OUR OFFICE IS A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE EFFECTED AREA. WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT PARTICULARLY SECTION FIVE IN THIS REPORT ORDINANCE. WE BELIEVE IT HAS SIGNIFICANT IMPLICATIONS. AND THERE'S CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS THAT CAN OPEN THE CITY TO COSTLY LITIGATION. MORE DEEPLY, I THINK WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY THIS WILL PENALIZE OUR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE UNHOUSED AND WITHOUT SHELTER. WE HEARD IT IN COUNCILOR BACA'S COMMENT ABOUT THE VISIBILITY OF HOMELESSNESS AND I FULLY AGREE THAT THINGS NEED TO CHANGE, STEPS NEED TO BE TAKEN. BUT THOSE STEPS AREN'T THE STEPS TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORS INVISIBLE OR HIDE THEM TO PENALIZE THEM BUT RATHER ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS. WE URGE THE COUNCIL RATHER THAN ADOPTING THIS PROPOSAL CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> DOUG FOLLOWED BY DIANE FOLLOWED BY JAKE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL, I AM THE PROUD OWNER OF THE SPACE ON THE CORNER OF SECOND AND GOLD WHICH HAS BEEN THERE FOR 17 YEARS. I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROGRESS ORDINANCE. MY PASSION FOR ARTS HAS DRIVP ME TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR CHILDREN TO LEARN ABOUT MUSIC, IMPROVE, AND THEATER. IT'S HEART BREAKING TO SEE THE STATE OF OUR DOWNTOWN WHICH IS PUMING INCREASINGLY UNSAFE AND UNATTRACTIVE. WHEN WE ASK CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES TO COME DOWNTOWN WE ONE THEM SAFE AND INSPIRED IN THE SPACE. A REVITALIZED DOWNTOWN IS ESSENTIAL TO THAT ENVIRONMENT. VAC WANT PROPERTIES AND ECONOMIC STAGNATION. THE STRUCTURES ARE NOT ONLY DISTRACT FROM AESTHETICS FROM THE CITY BUT POSE SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARDS. DOWNTOWN RENAISSANCE AND PROGRESS ORDINANCE OFFERS A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE CHALLENGES. IT WILL CREATE MORE VIBRANT WELCOMING DOWNTOWN BY PROMOTING A FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AND REDUCING TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE. >> DIANE, JAKE, FOLLOWED BY JONATHAN. >> THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE REMIND ME OF AN UP SCALE CLUB WITH A DRESS CODE MEANT TO EXCLUDE THOSE OF US UNABLE TO OR UNWILLING TO MEET THE STANDARD TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WE DON'T BELONG. OUR ALBUQUERQUE DOWNTOWN IS NOT A PRIVATE CLUB IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE AND IT BELONGS TO ALL OF US. HANDING OUT $100 FINE FOR PEOPLE WHO $100 MIGHT AS WELL BE A MILLION FOR WHOM A PUBLIC SERVICE ALTERNATIVE MAY AS WELL BE JUST AS MUCH OUT OF REACH IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE. WHAT ABOUT MY RIGHT TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST? I PARTICIPATED IN DOWNTOWN RALLIES AND PROTEST. A RIGHT TO GIVE OUR VOICES IN THIS WAY IS A TREASURED RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. THIS CAN PRICE PEOPLE OUT OF THE FREE EXPRESSION. MY FREE EXPRESSION, MY FREE SPEECH PAILS IN COMPARISON TO UNHOUSED COMMUNITY MEMBERS RIGHT TO EXISTENCE. THIS IS AMORAL ATTEMPT TO MAKE SOME OF US INVISIBLE. >> JAKE FOLLOWED BY JONATHAN FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MY SUPPORT FOR THIS BILL. AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY PERSPECTIVE ON DOWNTOWN. I PURCHASED A BUILDING DOWNTOWN IN NOVEMBER OF 2019. DILAPIDATED BUILDING. IT WAS AN EYESORE. IT WAS BOARDED UP. IT HAD DRYWALL HOLES, A HOLE IN THE ROOF. INFIRSTATION. A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS, OF COURSE THE COURSE OF THE PANDEMIC I REBUILT THE PLACE. SINCE IT OPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2022 WE'VE HAD NO FEWER THAN 500 LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES BRINGING THE ARTS MOSTLY OF LOCAL ALBUQUERQUE MUSIC BANDS DOWNTOWN AND GIVEN THEM A VENUE AND A FORUM WHERE ONE EXISTED IN THE PAST BUT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS DID NOT. I'M TRYING TO BRING THE SPIRIT OF DOWNTOWN THAT I REMEMBER FROM MY CHILDHOOD AND I WANT TO LEAVE THAT FOR MY CHILD. WE'RE AT A CROSS ROADS. AND WE NEED SOME HELP. IT'S DANGEROUS DOWNTOWN. AND THE LAST THREE WEEKS THERE'S -- SIX MURDERS WITHIN A DISTANCE OF MY BUILDING. IT'S NOT SAFE TO BRING MY KIDS DOWN TOWN. IT'S JUST NOT. THIS IS A STEP IN A DIRECTION. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JONATHAN FOLLOWED BY LISA FOLLOWED BY MAMA. LISA FOLLOWED BY MAMA FOLLOWED BY DONOVAN. >> HI, MR. PRESIDENT. I AM A LITTLE DIFFERENT. I HAVE A BUILDING SAFETY BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD ON CENTRAL. I BOUGHT IT AS A DILAPIDATED BUILDING. BECAUSE I WAS RAISED HERE. I RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE AND MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE BEING RAISED HERE. I NEED DOWNTOWN TO BE BETTER. BUT, THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING IS THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE DOWN HERE THAT INHERITED THEIR PROPERTY HERE DON'T SEE IT TO BE IMPORTANT THAT IT BE A THRIVING BUSINESS. THAT'S NOT OKAY WITH ME. SO, I'M A LAWYER, I ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESSES. I READ THIS FROM BEGINNING TO END. I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS. AND THE VACANCY PROVISION IS RIGHT. THE FINE PROVISION IS RIGHT. THE INSTRUCTIONS SECTION IS RIGHT. I REALLY RESPECT THE ACLU AND THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING, HERE I WAS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FOR HOMELESS WOMEN THAT WERE RAPED DOWNTOWN. WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THEM LEAVING HERE IS NOT HELPFUL. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> MAMA FOLLOWED BY DONOVAN, FOLLOWED BY SHANNON. >> I WISH COUNCILOR PEÑA WAS HERE BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONLY ONE I TRUST. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY REMEMBER ME, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE LOT HAVEN'T I. BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN HEAR. NOW I HAVE THIS ISSUE IN MY DOWNTOWN BECAUSE I WAS RAISED ON ROUTE 66 BEHIND K-MART. I'M 67 YEARS OLD AND I'M HOMELESS. I LOVE IT. AND I CHOSE IT UNTIL IT STARTED BECOMING, ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M YOUR ENEMY BECAUSE EVERYTHING I SAW IS BASED ON BUILDINGS AND CARS. WHY ARE YOU PUTTING HUMANS INTO THE LAW? YOU TUCKED US IN THERE? I USED TO SLEEP IN THE DOORWAY IN KIMO AND SELL MY ART WORK BECAUSE I'M REALLY GOOD. REALLY GOOD. THAT'S WAY I MAKE MY LIVING. NOW I'M CRIMINALIZED? BRING ME 40 BUCKS YOU CAN TAKE THIS HOME. I SUED THE CITY OF PORTLAND FOR $10,000. YOU GUYS HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, YOU DON'T CALL. YOU AND ARE ON CHANNEL 7 TOGETHER TONIGHT. WATCH IT. >> DONOVAN, FOLLOWED BY SHANNON, FOLLOWED BY LUKE. >> I'M SPEAKING TO OPPOSE O-42. I LIVE IN COUNCILOR BACA'S DISTRICT. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NO OBSTRUCTION ZONE. IT CRIMINALIZES THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE. LANGUAGE WOULD CONTRIBUTE CONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS. LIKE WORKERS ON STRIKE. HANDING OUT INFORMATIONAL PAMPHLETS. FOR THE PAST 11 MONTHS THE MAJOR POLITICAL PROTESTS AND ACTIONS DOWNTOWN HAVE CENTERED ON OPPOSING U.S. SUPPORT OF ISRAEL'S GENOCIDE AGAINST PALESTINE. THIS WEAPONIZES THE LANGUAGE OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO CONTINUE THE WAR ON HOMELESS PEOPLE AND STIFLE POLITICAL DESCENT. THIS IS NOT COMPLAINING AS COUNCILOR BACA CLAIMS, IT IS A CIVIL RIGHTS AND MORAL ISSUE. WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. AND WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED, REJECT THIS ORDINANCE FREE PALESTINE. >> SHANNON FOLLOWED BY LUKE FOLLOWED BY LERA. >> NO MORE CLAPPING, SHOUTING, WE WANT TO GIVE RESPECT AND PLENTY OF TIME FOR EACH SPEAKER TO BE HEARD. THANK YOU. >> I AM A SOCIAL WORKER IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE AND EMPHASIZE THE PRECEDENT THAT WILL BE SET IF THIS BILL PASSES TODAY. IT'S A CLEAR ATTEMPT TO CRIMINALIZE PROTESTS, POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS IN DOWNTOWN INSTEAD OF PROVIDING HOMES AND INCREASED FUNDING FOR SERVICES FOR PEOPLE IN NEED. AND IT COMES AFTER THIS COUNCIL REMAINED SILENT ABOUT THE BILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLS BEING FUNNELED TO ISRAEL WHILE OUR CITY'S PEOPLE SUFFER DOWNTOWN. O-42 CRIMINALIZES HOLDING UP BANNERS AND SIGNS ON PUBLIC DOWNTOWN SIDEWALKS AND ATTACK OUR RIGHT TO PICKET AND PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND PEOPLE FOR PALESTINE FOR THE PAST YEAR WHICH IS A VITAL RIGHT FOR DOWNTOWN WORKERS. PROTESTS IS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT, ESPECIALLY DURING A GENOCIDE AND WITHIN A SYSTEM THAT SUFFOCATES PEOPLE DAILY. PUBLIC SIDEWALKS BELONG TO THE PEOPLE. AND PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES DESERVE PASSION AND SERVICES. WE DEMAND HOMES FOR RESIDENTS NOT MORE POLICING. WE DEMAND THE CITY VOTE DOWN THIS DANGEROUS BILL. INCLUDING PEOPLE WITHOUT HOMES IN OUR DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. TIME IS UP. >> LUKE FOLLOWED BY LILA FOLLOWED BY MARISSA. LILA FOLLOWED BY MARISSA FOLLOWED BY JESSICA. >> HELLO. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF O-24-42 SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PUBLIC. COUNCILOR BACA STARTED BY SAYING THE ONLY THING WE HATE MORE THAN STATUS QUO IS CHANGE. WE HADE BAD FAITH POLITICIANS AND FIRST AMENDMENT ATTACK. THIS BILL IS AN INSANE ATTACK ON UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. VEILING SOMETHING AS PUBLIC SAFETY WHEN YOU'RE BANNING BANNERS AND SIGNS WHO IS THAT KEEPING SAFE? I'M A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN PROTESTS WHICH THEY BRING KIDS AND SAID THEY DID SUCH A GOOD JOB MAINTAINING A SAFE AND WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT. I LIVE IN DOWNTOWN, I'M NOT SCARED OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE. I'M SCARED OF KILLER COPS WILL BE EMBOLDEN TO HURT PEOPLE. THIS BILL WAS WRITTEN WITH SUCH BROAD LANGUAGE YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT. I WILL SAY TO BACA'S CREDIT THIS BILL IS BIPARTISAN THAT ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WILL BE AGAINST IT REGARDLESS OF PARTY. >> MARISSA FOLLOWED BY JESSICA FOLLOWED BY ADALE. >> I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS BILL AS SOMEONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE MOVEMENT IN SUPPORT OF PALESTINE THIS PAST YEAR. AND SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ALBUQUERQUE BECOME THE NEXT DENVER OR LAS VEGAS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO CREATE A MORE ATTRACTIVE ENVIRONMENT FOR BUSINESSES AND BUSINESS GOERS. IT IS IN FACT NOT FOR ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS BUT FOR BUSINESS AND FOR PROFIT. IGNORING PROBLEMS OR PRETENDING THEY DON'T EXIST IS NOT HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM. LIKES WITH, PUSHING HOMELESS PEOPLE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DOES NOT SOLVE HOMELESSNESS. THIS CRIMINALIZES BEING UNHOUSED. NO ONE LIKES SEEING PEOPLE WITHOUT SHELTER ESPECIALLY AS IT STARTS TO GET COLDER. THIS IS A SOLVABLE ISSUE THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSES CAN JOBS CAN BE CREATED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. IT CAN BE DONE. THIS BILL IS A NIGHTMARE FOR ALBUQUERQUE CITIZENS WE'LL NOT LET ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS BE CRIMINALIZED FOR A BETTER WORLD OR FIGHTING JUST TO STAY ALIVE. >> JESSICA. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: REALLY QUICK FOR CLARITY. AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS. THIS BILL DOES NOT RESTRICT ANY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. YOU CAN PUT IN LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BACA, THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE IS NOT TO RESTRICT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS THAT FOLKS HAVE PURSUANT TO THE CONSTITUTION. THOSE RIGHTS EXIST REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN EXPLICITLY INCLUDE IN THE BILL ITSELF TO MAKE IT MORE APPARENT. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M HERE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE PROPOSED ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO CRIMINALIZE HOMELESSNESS AND STRIP NEW MEXICANS OF THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO GATHER AND PROTEST WITHIN A DOWNTOWN AREA. I LIVED IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR 20 YEARS NOW AND I CANNOT CONTINUE TO WATCH AS ANTI- HOMELESS LEGISLATURE IS BEING SPRAED ACROSS THE U.S. BEING THIS IS PROPOSED BY MY OWN COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE IS A SLAP IN THE FACE. MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO SLEEP OR CITY SIDEWALKS DOES NOT ACTUALLY SERVE BURQUENOS. IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THIS PROFIT IS PUT OVER PEOPLE. HOMELESSNESS WILL BE FIXED BY RESTRICTING PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING BRUTALIZED WITHIN THEIR CITY BY THEIR CITY. THE WAY TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET SO WE CAN HAVE A SAFE AND SOCIAL DOWNTOWN IS PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT BY GENTRIFYING THE AREA AND PUSHING PEOPLE TO OTHER AREAS OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> ADEL FOLLOWED BY BEX FOLLOWED BY TREVOR. BEX FOLLOWED BY TREVOR FOLLOWED BY VICTORIA. >> PLEASE OPPOSE THIS BILL. STAND TO SHOW ALL OF OUR NUMBERS JUST IN CASE YOU'RE NOT MAKING A COMMENT. I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS BILL ABOUT PAVING THE WAY FOR GENTRIFICATION BY MAKING ALBUQUERQUE A FRIENDLIER PLACE FOR BUSINESS OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS FOR PROFIT. WE NEED DEVELOPMENT FOR PEOPLE. THIS RESOLUTION FRAMES HOMELESS PEOPLE AS DANGEROUS. WHAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS IS CRIMINALIZING PEOPLE INSTEAD OF GUARANTEEING HOUSING. ALLOWING THE MOST VULNERABLE TO LIVE IN A DANGEROUS CONDITION WITHOUT A HOME. THIS BILL FRAMES CARRYING SIGNS OR BANNERS ON THE SIDE WALK, AKA PROTEST AS UNSAFE. WHAT IS REALLY DANGEROUS IS ATTACKING THE FREE SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY. DANGEROUS IS SILENCE AN INACTION WHILE THE NEW MEXICO CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION SENDS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ISRAEL TO CREATE GENOCIDE ON PALESTINE. ON OCTOBER 5th AT 2 P.M. WE WILL BE RALLYING AND MARCHING FOR PALESTINIAN FREEDOM. JOIN US. >> TREVOR FOLLOWED BY VICTORIA FOLLOWED BY ZINI. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILOR BACA, THIS IS IN FACT AN IMPINGEMENT ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT, IT MIGHT NOT BE INTENDED TO SUPPRESS FREE SPEECH, IT HAS A FREEZING EFFECT AS IT CAN BE SELECTIVELY ENFORCED. FURTHERMORE, THIS ORDINANCE USES THE SAME INFRACTIONS TO OPPRESS HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE STREETS WHERE SLEEPING, SITTING, KNEELING OR CROUCHING OR LAYING DOWN ON THE SIDEWALKS. THIS IS ON PAGE 19, LINES EIGHT THROUGH 9 AND 11 THROUGH 12. THIS ORDINANCE WILL CONDENSE THE POPULATIONS IN OTHER COUNCILORS DISTRICTS. HOMELESSNESS WILL NOT GO AWAY BY PUSHING THEM OUT OF TOWN. IT WILL INCREASE THE CITY SPENDING AND EXPOSE THE MOST VULNERABLE TO HEIGHTENED HARASSMENT AND VIOLENCE FROM THE POLICE AND APD HAS PROVEN IS VIOLENCE AGAINST THE HOMELESS. BECAUSE OF THIS, IT CAN ALSO PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN ON HEALTH CARE SYSTEM AS PEOPLE GET INJURED AND HURT. VOTE NO ON THIS ORDINANCE. >> VICTORIA, FOLLOWED BY ZIMMI, FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON. >> HELLO. I AM -- I WOULD SAY I'M A TRIPLE THREAT. I WAS BORN IN ALBUQUERQUE, I WAS RAISED IN CUBA, NEW MEXICO. AND I LIVE DOWNTOWN. MY FRONT DOOR IS LITERALLY CENTRAL, THE STREET. SO, WHEN MY DAD WAS -- WHEN I LIVED IN CUBA, NEW MEXICO. MY DAD WAS THE MAYOR, THE BUTCHER, THE MAIL MAN AND THE TOW TRUCK GUY. I THINK I GATHERED LOT OF THE THINGS FROM HIM AS LOOKING AT MY COMMUNITY OF DOWNTOWN. I STARTED A NONPROFIT BUSINESS, IT'S CALLED OT CIRCS. IT'S FOR PEOPLE WITH ABILITIES AND DISABILITIES. WHAT THE NONPROFIT WORKS TO DO IS SUPPORT THE ARTISTS AND THE COMMUNITY, THE CULTURAL COMMUNITY. WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST THREE GALLERIES FOR ART WALK. AND I REALLY SEEN DOWNTOWN GROW AND BE SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE AND WORK DOWN THERE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IT BE BETTER. THANK YOU. >> ZINI FOLLOWED BY RHIANNON FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA. >> HI. I LIVE AND WORK DOWNTOWN. ON CENTRAL. I OPPOSE ORDINANCE O-2-442. PARTICULARLY SECTION FIVE. I'M A STUDIO COORDINATOR AND OPPORTUNITY ARTS PROJECT. A COMMUNITY ART STUDIO THAT SEEKS TO PROVIDE ART ACCESS TO EVERYONE. SOME OF THE BEST ARTISTS AND PEOPLE I KNOW SLEEP ON THE SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN. IF YOU PASS THIS ORDINANCE, AS IS, YOU DO THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF REVITALIZING THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. YOU SUPPRESS CREATIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY. DEPRIVE THE WORLD OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER AND ENACT FURTHER VIOLENCE AND DISPLACEMENT ON THE MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS. THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE FORCED ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO WHERE ELSE TO BE TO GO AND NO MONEY TO PAY THE FINES. WE HEAR RHETORIC ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WE NEED TO CLEAN UP OUR STREETS, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE NOT GARBAGE. THEY'RE VITAL NUMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE EXIST IN PUBLIC SPACE. AND TO BE WELCOMED INTO SOCIETY. THIS IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> RHIANNON FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY ABBEY. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE 300 MEMBERS OF NAOP NEW MEXICO. WE'RE ASKING FOR A DEFERRAL. WHILE THERE ARE SOME WELL-MEANING ASPECTS OF THIS BILL SUCH AS ENCOURAGING THE ACTIVATION OF VACANT PROPERTIES AND CREATING NO BLOCKING ZONE, THERE'S ALSO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. FOR EXAMPLE, PENALIZING PROPERTY OWNERS FOR VACANCY WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE UNDERLYING ISSUES OF CRIME, HOMELESSNESS AND VANDALLISM DOWNTOWN COULD WORSEN THE SITUATION RATHER THAN HELP IT. FLOOR AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT BE MADE TONIGHT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED ENOUGH TIME TO PROVIDE THOUGHTFUL FEEDBACK. I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU DEFER THE BILL TO ALLOW FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION, REFINEM AND COLLABORATION. WE WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZED. WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS THOUGHTFUL AND INCLUSIVE OF THOSE WHO ARE INVESTED IN THE SUCCESS. THANK YOU. >> CYNTHIA FOLLOWED BY ABBEY FOLLOWED BY PATRICK. >> HI, I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PARTY OF GLOBAL IMMIGRATION. I'M A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS. THIS IS A CLEAR ATTACK ON CRIMINALIZING HOMELESS PEOPLE AND PROTESTERS. IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR YOU'RE NOT ATTACKING ANYBODY'S AMENDMENTS YOU SHOULD SCRAP IT ALTOGETHER. THAT WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR. TO JUST GET RID OF THE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER. YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THE PEOPLE THAT HOMELESS HAVE NO WHERE TO GO. BUT YOU'RE NOT BUILDING THE AFFORDABLE HOMES PEOPLE NEED. WHEN TENT CITY EXISTS, THEY WENT TO LOS ALTOS AND CLOSED THE PARK. AND THEY PROBABLY CAME BACK DOWN. YOU DON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS WITH POLICING. AND THIS IS A CLEAR ATTACK ON PROTESTERS. SIGNS AND BANNERS ARPT GOING TO BE ALLOWED. WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU USE A BANNER AND A SIGN FOR? OTHER THAN TO PROTEST SOMETHING WRONG THAT IS GOING ON. LIKE A GENOCIDE. BEING COMMITTED BY YOUR COUNTRY. >> ABBEY FOLLOWED BY PATRICK FOLLOWED BY SUSAN. >> HI, I'M HERE TO RAISE AN OBJECTION TO THE SECTION UNDER ORDINANCE 24-42 ENTITLED NO OBSTRUCTION ZONE. DESPITE THE CONCERN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND VITALIIES OF BUSINESSES THIS SECTION WOULD PROMOTE NEITHER. NOM IS IT IMPRACTICAL TO ENFORCE I THINK EVEN TO PROPOSE THIS CARRIES A CASUAL AND BRAZEN INVITATION TO TRAMPLE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH. ASSURANCES ARE NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE TO SHOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE. AND IT ALSO OPENS THE DOOR FOR DISCRIMINATORY ENFORCEMENT OR HARASSMENT NOT ONLY OF THE MOST MARGINALIZED BUT EVERY DAY CITY GOERS USED TO DIFFERENT NORMS BASED ON COMMON SENSE. IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT WHICH ALBUQUERQUE'S PEOPLE ARE -- AND LEADS TO LAWSUITS THAT WASTE PUBLIC MONEY. I CAN THINK OF SEVERAL EXAMPLES. MOTHERS FATHERS GRANDPARENTS PEOPLE WITH STROLLERS, DISABLED. ATHLETES, WHO WANT TO PAUSE AND TAKE A BREAK. IT'S ILL CONCEIVED. IT WOULD -- >>COUN. LEWIS: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN IMPROVING NOT DEGRADING QUALITY OF LIFE BEIGED ON THE ALARM POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> PATRICK FOLLOWED BY SUSAN FOLLOWED BY RENÉ. >> HELLO, COUNCILORS. I'M A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE, DISTRICT TWO. COUNCILOR BACA'S DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY STAUNCH OPPOSITION TO ORDINANCE 24-42 PARTICULARLY SECTION FIVE. THIS LEGISLATION IS BLATANT TAECHALITY TO FURTHER THE WORSENING CRIMINALIZATION OF THE HOMELESSNESS IN ALBUQUERQUE. RESTRICT FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY. WHETHER OR NOT YOU INTEND IT LEGALLY, IT IS DOING THAT AND IT WILL DO THAT. AND UNCONSTITUTIONALLY PREVENT FIRST AMENDMENT FROM -- ALBUQUERQUE LEADERSHIP WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO AVOID ADDRESSING ANY ACTUAL ROOT ISSUES THIS ORDINANCE PURPORTS TO ADDRESS. PREFERRING TO SPEND MONEY ON POLICING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR RICH INVESTORS THAN SPENDING MONEY ON HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES THIS CITY NEEDS. UPWARDS OF 50% OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE ARE DUE TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS IN THE CITY. THIS COUNCIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOUR TIME IS UP. GO THE NEXT SPEAKER. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> SUSAN, FOLLOWED BY RENÉ. SHOLED BY SHANE. >>COUN. LEWIS: STAY WITHIN TIME LIMITS. WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO SPEAK. >> I'M A LONGTIME DOWNTOWN RESIDENT. MY DREAM IS FOR A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN SPACE. FILLED WITH VISITORS AND LOCALS. ACTION IS NEEDED ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. WE NEED TO FIND OUT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE UNHOUSED. WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ENFORCING EXISTING LAWS ON CRIME, AND DRUGS IN OUR CITY. THOSE ISSUES ARE NO REASON FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO SIT IDLY BY REFUSING TO SELL OR DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTIES FOR 20-PLUS YEARS IN SOME CASES. IN OTHER CASES, LESS TIME BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY UNHOUSED PEOPLE ARE DEFECATING IN FRONT OF THEIR BUILDINGS AND PREVENTING ANY TYPE OF HELP. IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> I SUPPORT ORDINANCE 24-42. >>COUN. LEWIS: RENÉ FOLLOWED BY SHANE FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA. >> I'M AN ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT AND COMMUNITY MEMBER. I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING WHEN I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THE TIME LIMIT WAS TWO MINUTES NOT ONE. I WAS TOLD ORDINANCE 24-42 DISCOURAGES ILLEGALS UNDER THE ART WALK. GIVEN THE CONTENT OF THE ORDINANCE THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. IN ADDITION TO THE ANTI- HOMELESS POLITICS DRIVING BY PROHIBATION AGAINST SITTING, LAYING DOWN, ACROSS THE SIDE WALK, ORDINANCE 24-42 DIRECTLY TARGETS ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT BY MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO -- AND I QUOTE, CARRY BANNERS OR SIGNS UPON THE SIDE WALK OR FOOTPATH. IT SEEMS TO ME APPARENT THIS LEGISLATION IS MORE ABOUT RESTRICTING THE USE OF PUBLIC SPACE RATHER THAN ADDRESSING ILLEGAL ART WALK VENDORS OR PROTECTING PEOPLE'S ABILITIES TO USE THE SIDE WALK. REJECT ORDINANCE 24-42. >> SHANE FOLLOWED BY ANGELINA FOLLOWED BY ABDUL. >> ANTI- POVERTY LEGISLATION MOVES QUICKLY IN THE U.S. HOWEVER, EVERYTHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP THE POOR IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING HYPOTHETICALLY IN THE FUTURE LATER, LATER, YOU'RE WORKING ON IT. YOU'LL SEE IF YOU HAVE ROOM IN THE NEXT BUDGET. HELPING THE POOR'S CAMPAIGN SLOGAN ANTI- POVERTY LEGISLATION IS REALITY NOW AND IN THE PAST. POLITICIANS SERVE THE RICH. YOU ONLY GIVE LIP SERVICE TO THE POOR. YOU ONLY SERVE YOUR DONORS. I WAS A CLICHÉ HOMELESS VETERAN. I KNOW THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE POVERTY ILLEGAL. I KNOW YOU THINK YOU'RE SLICK. I KNOW YOUR INTENTIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU MR. BACA. AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU DON'T NEED TO BE TELLING PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT. THOSE OF US, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE WAKING UP TO WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON EVERY DAY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP FIGHTING. WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. >> ANGELINA FOLLOWED BY ABDUL FOLLOWED BY KANI. >> LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO IN BARELAS. WE'RE SICK OF PEOPLE BEG DISPLACED IN DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS. MANY PEOPLE LIVE THERE FOR GENERATIONS SEE THE CITY AS REVITALIZATION AS PROFIT LEECHING ATTACKS ON THE PEOPLE THEY ARE. REMEMBER WHEN THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE VOTED DOWN THE STADIUM YOU SUPPORTED. HISTORICALLY, YES WE WANT DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE. WE NEED QUALITY GROCERY STORES NOT MORE SALES TO GREEDY DEVELOPERS AND NOT ORDINANCES. THE PEOPLE ON THESE SIDEWALKS ARE HUMAN BEINGS. NOT OBSTRUCTINOS. -- THE PUSH TO KICK HOMELESS PEOPLE FURTHER OUT OF SIGHT GOES HAND AND HAND WITH THE SALE AND GENTRIFICATION THAT AFFECTS HOMEOWNERS. YOU'RE CATERING TO DEVELOPERS AND NOT THE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT UNHOUSED ADVOCATE YOU SPOKE TO, BUT THERE'S A LOT IN HERE. WE CAN SEE THE VIOLENT ATTACK AGAINST THE HOMELESS. IT'S ANTI- SMALL BUSINESS WITH CRAZY FINES. RIDICULOUS STANDARDS. DISGUSTING. >> ABDUL FOLLOWED BY T AW DANI. FOLLOWED BY ASA. >> FOLLOWED BY ASA FOLLOWED BY LISA. ASA FOLLOWED BY LISA FOLLOWED BY JAMES. LISA FOLLOWED BY JAMES FOLLOWED BY -- >> HI. I'M GREATLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE NO OBSTRUCTION ZONE. FOR FOUR YEARS, 300 NEW MEXICANS GATHERED EVERY TUESDAY, EVERY TUESDAY. THIS IS IN FRONT OF THE SIMS BUILDING. WE'RE AT 4th AND GOLD. WHY? BECAUSE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAD THEIR OFFICES THERE. U.S. REPRESENTATIVE GRISHAM, HEINRICH, ALL HAD THEIR OFFICES THERE. FIRST AMENDMENT SAYS THAT CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LOLL RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE OR OF THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ASSEMBLE AND PETITION THE GOVERNMENT. I SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE BECAUSE WE HAD EVERY SINGLE -- AND DEB HALLAND. SHE WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE WHO GETS $100 FINE AND SO WOULD THE GOVERNOR BECAUSE SHE HELD SIGNS AND WE CAN SEE GOING INTO THE STREET. I WANT TO ASK IF I COULD PAGE ONE, LINE 21, MISUSE OF SIDEWALKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> LINE 24, PAGE 18. PAGE 19. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. WE'LL ADDRESS THAT DURING OUR DISCUSSION TIME IF YOU LIKE. THANKS SO MUCH. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY IASO FOLLOWED BY ALBERT. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M JAMES FROM D4. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE TO HEAR THE AMENDMENTS BEFORE STARTING PUBLIC COMMENT. I SUPPORT A LOT OF THIS BILL, BUT THIS BILL IS TOO COMPLEX. LISTENING TO COUNCILOR LEWIS'S WHO HAS A LAW DEGREE TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT. THAT TELLS YOU NOBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS BILL. THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. IT GOES TO COMBINE FIVE TO TEN BILLS INTO ONE. THIS BILL SHOULD BE SEPARATED OUT AND DISCUSSED AS INDIVIDUAL BILLS. FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE DEMONS AT NAOP PLEASE DEFER THE BILL. I'LL BE SPEAKING AT THE RIGHT TO REST EVENT ON WEDNESDAY OUTSIDE OF CIVIC PLAZA. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M EXTREMELY OFFENDED. >> FOLLOWED BY ALBERT FOLLOWED BY DENNIS. >> SO, I KNOW THAT THE DECADES LONG INSTITUTIONALIZED NEGLECT DOES AFFECT NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M WORRIED ABOUT SECTION FIVE. IT TRIES TO PRETEPPED ALL IS COOL AND HUNKY DOORY. AND THAT IS THE SAME IN THE RISKS OF THE CITY AS WELL. YOU CAN'T JUST PRETEND IT. WHAT IS MORE CHILLING TO ME IS THE LANGUAGE. YOU ARE THE OBSTRUCTION. AS OPPOSED TO DANG, WE FAILED, WE NEED TO DO BETTER. IF WE WERE TO START USING THAT LANGUAGE OF ACTUALLY SAYING THERE IS NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES, THEN WE MIGHT ACTUALLY STARTING TO GET SOME SOME SUBSTANTIAL SOLUTION QUICKLY, HOPEFULLY, I PRAY. THANK YOU. >> ALBERT, FOLLOWED BY DEP -- DENNIS. >> I'M ALBERT CHAVEZ. WE GET A THOUSAND CUSTOMERS IN THE STORE. I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED AND SUPPORTED BY MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS DOWNTOWN. JUST TODAY, AND EVERY DAY, WE FIND -- JUST TODAY I HAD A HALF NAKED MAN ON THE SIDE WALK FOR MOST OF THE MORNING. I GOT HIM SOME HELP. I OFFER EVERYBODY I CAN DOWN THERE, I KNOW MOST OF THESE PEOPLE BY NAME AND TRY TO DIRECT THEM TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED. THE PROBLEM IS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY WANT TO HAVE A WALKABLE CITY DOWNTOWN, THEY WANT TOURIST TO COME IN FROM THE STRAIN STATION. THE TOURISTS HAVE TO COME TO THE SIDE WALK TO IT STREET TO TO GET TO THE MARKET. IT'S VERY CHALLENGING AS A BUSINESS TO RUN THE BUSINESS WITH THESE DISTRACTIONS AND BARRICADES ON THE SIDE WALK. I SUPPORT THE WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT DOWNTOWN. I HOPE YOU VOTE ON THAT. AGAIN, VERY DIFFICULT DOWN THERE. THERE'S MANY MORE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE DOWN THERE. I DEFINITELY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE WALKABILITY. THANK YOU. >> DENNIS FOLLOWED BY ROGER FOLLOWED BY RIVER. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF O-42. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 1990. IN 2001 WE FORMED A NONPROFIT THAT TOOK A 17 YEARS DERELICT BUILDING AND TURNED IT INTO A VIBRANT PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT IS FUSION ON FIRST STREET. SAT ON THE DOWNTOWN ACTION BOARD, AND STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE RAIL TRAIL. I'VE DONE MY TOWN IN DOWNTOWN'S TRENCHES. CITY ADMINISTRATION OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS KNOW, THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION. ALBUQUERQUE'S APPROACH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PIECEMEAL RATHER THAN COMPREHENSIVE. THE ANSWERS LIE IN COLLABORATION WITH PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM. I'VE BEEN ENCOURAGED BY THE RECENT EFFORTS COMBINED EFFORTED TO CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM GOING FORWARD WITH THE BURGEONINGIVITY AND RAIL TRAIL. OUR DOWNTOWN IS PRESENTED WITH CONTREAT TOOLS TOWARD REDEVELOPMENT. I APPLAUD COUNCILOR BACA FOR CONTINUING TO ADDRESS THE DIFFICULT ISSUE. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE BILL. >> ROGER FOLLOWED BY RIVER FOLLOWED BY KEGAN. >> I LIVE IN ALBUQUERQUE SINCE 1979 AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN THAT TIME. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I'VE SEEN IS EVER INCREASING POLICE PRESENCE ALL OVER THE CITY. AND IT BECOMES INCREASINGLY MILITARIZED AND THEY HARASS HOMELESS PEOPLE. AND THEY TAKE -- MORE THAN ONE TIME I'VE SEEN POLICE RAID HOMELESS CAMPS AND TAKE EVERYTHING -- ALL THE EARTHLY POSITIONS THESE PEOPLE HAVE. AND LEAVE THEM WITH NO POSSESSIONS AT ALL. AND OF COURSE, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, WHAT DOES THE WHOLE BUSINESS ABOUT PROHIBITING BLOCKING THE SIDE WALK WITH BANNERS, AND SIGNS AND SUCH, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN JUST AN ATTACK ON PROTESTERS? I'M WITH THE PSL, AND WE SPENT THE LAST YEAR OR SO PROTESTING THE WAR IN PALESTINE. BUT, THIS ATTACKS PEOPLE. MAKING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> FOLLOWED BY KEGAN FOLLOWED BY EMILY. >> THANKS. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO WHERE I OWN AND BUILT MY OWN HOME. I HAVE A FORMAL BACKGROUND IN URBAN DEVELOPMENT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA. AND A PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND IN DATA ANALYSIS DOING LEGISLATIVE ANALYSIS. HAVING READ THIS BILL, CLOSELY IN FULL I BELIEVE THIS IS BACKWARD IN UNDERSTANDING AND IMPLEMENTATION OF URBAN REVITALIZATION. IF YOU WERE SICK, AND YOU WENT TO A DOCTOR AND THE DOCTOR PUNISHED YOU FOR BEING SICK AND SPENT THE APPOINTMENT TELLING YOU HOW TO LOOK HEALTHY, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD GET BETTER. THIS BILL SAYS YES. IT SUPPOSES ENFORCING AN OUTCOME FIXES UNDERLYING ISSUES. YOU'RE CORRECT THAT WE DON'T WANT BUSINESSES BOARDED UP. WE DON'T WANT MONETARY POLICIES EITHER THAT ARE GOING TO HURT THOSE BUSINESSES. YOU'RE CORRECT THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE SLEEPING ON SIDEWALKS, BUT MAKING ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO DO SO DOESN'T FIX THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS. FOCUS ON LEGISLATION TO IMPROVE CONDITIONS, NOT PENALIZE OUTCOMES. >> KEGAN FOLLOWED BY EMILY FOLLOWED BY CARLOS. >> HELLO, I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU AS AN UNEDUCATED MEMBER OF THE WORKING CLASS. THIS BILL CONTAINS LEVER LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS THE REPRESENTATIVES ENOUGH WIGGLE ROOM TO -- IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE UNAWARE. ALL THE CITIZENS COMING UP THAT ARE PRO-THIS BILL THEY SEEM TO LEAVE OUT THE CRUCIAL DETAIL THIS IS TARGETING HOMELESSNESS. TOUCHDOWN ESSENTIALLY BEING HOMELESS ON THE SIDE WALK AND DIRECTLY ATTACK THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT. COUNCILOR BACA IS A HYDROLOGIST, I'M AN UNEDUCATED MEMBER OF THE WORKING CLASS, I ASSUME COUNCILOR BACA IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. HOW IS IT HE CAN DENY THE MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE THAT LEGISLATION OF LIKE LEADS TO HIGHER LEVELS OF -- MENTAL HEALTH OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION. YOU CAN FIND COUNTLESS RESEARCH BY SCHOLARS AND WEBSITES, THE SCIENCE BACKS THIS STANCE THAT GUARANTEED HOUSING IS A PROVE WAY TO -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> WHY WOULD ANY HUMAN WITH AN OUNCE OF INTEGRITY DENY MIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> EMILY FOLLOWED BY CARLOS FOLLOWED BY IAN. >> DISTRICT TWO. I'M A RESIDENT OF DOWN TOWN. I WORK DOWNTOWN. A COUPLE OF BLOCKS FROM HERE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK STRONGLY AGAINST THE ORDINANCE AND IMPLICATIONS IT HAS AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS. IT CRIMINALIZES MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO NEED OUR SUPPORT THE MOST FOR SIMPLY EXISTING. MANY OF THE PEOPLE THIS ORDINANCE WOULD TARGET CAPACITY AFFORD THE FINES AND STRUGGLING BEHIND THE SYSTEM. IT'S SAD TO SEE ATTEMPTS TO PASS LAWS THAT THREATEN THE HUMANITY OF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. PUSHING PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC VIEW DOES NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS FROM ITS ROOT. ANTI- HOMELESS MEASURES ATTEMPT TO MAKE PEOPLE WITH HOUSES MORE COMFORTABLE, IT ATTEMPTS TO MAKE A PLACE FIT INTO A CERTAIN AESTHETIC THAT FEELS CLEANED UP AND SAFE FOR PEOPLE PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW THE STRUGGLE OF HOMELESSNESS. FOR UP HOUSED PEOPLE THIS CITY IS NO SAFER BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE. BEING UNHOUSED IS NOT LESSONED BECAUSE OF LAWS LIKE THIS. WE NEED TO SHIFT OUR PERSPECTIVE AND POLICIES TO GET PEOPLE HOUSED. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS ORDINANCE. >> CARLOS, FOLLOWED BY IAN FOLLOWED BY MARK. >> I'M A RESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN. I'M -- EVERYBODY WHO WE POLLED WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. IT SHOWS VERY STRONG OPPOSITION FOR MANY MEMBERS FOR SECTION FIVE. THE SIDE WALK OBSTRUCTION PROVISION. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY I SUPPORT THIS. THIS BILL IS ABOUT PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES FUTURES. WHEN THEY SIT EMPTY WE MISS ON ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS COULD BE CREATING JAUBS. DOWN TOWN IS THE HEART OF OUR CITY, IF IT THRIVES THE ENTIRE CITY BENEFITS. BY ENCOURAGING PROPERTY OWNERS TO FIX UP OR SALE THEIR VACANT BUILDING WE'RE STIMULATING GROWTH WITHOUT FURTHER INFRASTRUCTURE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO BUILD NEW ROADS OR SEWER SYSTEMS. THIS IS A SMART COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GROW TAX BASE. SOMETHING WE ALL WANT. I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING IN THIS BILL, BUT CHANGE REQUIRES COMPROMISE AND WE NEED CHANGE IN DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU. >> IAN FOLLOWED BY MARK, FOLLOWED BY WILLIAM. >> GOOD EVENING. COUNCILORS, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE. I BELIEVE IT'S A BIT OF A RED HERRING TO SUGGEST THE PEOPLE HERE ARE NOT FOR MAJOR LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES SERIOUSLY. I'M SURE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO IS AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE WILL BE FOR LEGISLATION THAT DIRECTLY AND MERCIFULLY AND COMPASSIONATELY ADDRESSES THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS. SPECIFICALLY THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE PUBLIC HOUSING. IF THERE WAS LEGISLATION PUT BEFORE US THAT YOU GUYS WISH TO PASS, SERIOUS LEGISLATION, THAT ADDRESSED THE ENORMOUS COST OF HOUSING THAT'S INCREASED DRAMATICALLY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THERE'S NO DOUBT PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WOULD BE BEHIND IT. WE KNOW FROM HOUSING FIRST PROGRAMS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT IF YOU PASS LEGISLATION THAT ADDRESSES THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS, WE WOULD GET TO 90% OF THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS INTO THE HOUSING THEY DESERVE. AND YOU WOULDN'T ALSO BE CRIMINALING THE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AGAINST THEIR WILL AND POLICIES. THANK YOU. >> MARK FOLLOWED BY -- FOLLOWED BY BRITNEY. >> HELLO, I'M MARK. I OWN 505 CENTRAL WHICH IS A MIXED USE HOUSING AND RETAIL BUILDING. IT FITS IN CENTRAL. AND WE TOOK THAT BUILDING IN 2017 AND IT WAS A VACANT DILAPIDATED OFFICE BUILDING. AND THE VISION WAS TO CREATE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE DOWNTOWN WHICH WE DID. I'M PROUD WE DEVELOPED 45 HOUSING FOR 45 PEOPLE. WE HAVE MOM AND POP RESTAURANTS. THEY'RE ALL ALBUQUERQUE-BASED BUSINESSES. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE MAJORITY OF THIS BILL. PARTICULARLY THE SECTION ABOUT DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND VACANT BUILDINGS. AND WHAT I CONSIDER THE ABSENTEE LANDLORDS THAT OWN A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS FOR SO LONG. I MOVED DOWNTOWN IN 1992. A LOT OF THESE YOUNG FOLKS REMIND ME OF WHERE I WAS IN 1991, AND ALL THE SAME BUILDINGS WERE THERE. WE CALLED THE GIZMY. IT COULD BE HOUSING AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE AND GET THE ABSENTEE LANDLORDS OFF IT. THANK YOU. >> WILLIAM FOLLOWED BY BRITNEY FOLLOWED BY CAELEB. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALL, FOR CONSIDERING THIS. AND I KNOW IT TAKES COURAGE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NEW. AND EVEN TO PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT IS NEW. AND OBVIOUSLY CHANGES IS HARD. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WALKING DOWNTOWN AT 9 A.M. ON A SATURDAY MORNING OR ON A FRIDAY MORNING OR ANY DAY OF THE WEEK IS GOING TO SAY WHAT A THRIVING, VIBE LNT PLACE TO LIVE. IT'S NOT THAT YET. IT CAN BE BETTER. AND WE HAVE ALL OF THESE GREAT CONCERNED CITIZENS WHO ARE HERE WANTING TO MAKE ALBUQUERQUE BETTER. THEY'RE DISAGREEING WHAT WE WANT. WE ALL WANT IT TO BE BETTER. THIS IS NOT A HOUSING BILL. WHAT IT'S ABOUT IS WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET SOME OF THESE STOREFRONTS ACTIVATED TO STOP THE DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS, TO MAKE A VIBRANT PLACE AND THE OTHER PROBLEM IS WE'VE GOT TO SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM. THAT'S NOT IN THIS BILL. THIS BILL DOESN'T DO THAT. I JUST ASK YOU TO PASS THE BILL AND KEEP WORKING TOWARD MAKING ALBUQUERQUE BETTER. >> BRITNEY FOLLOWED BY CAELEB FOLLOWED BY NONEN. CAELEB FOLLOWED BY NONE FOLLOWED BY TRAVIS. >> I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 7. I THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH THE ORD INDEPENDENCE SOLVES PUBLIC OBSTRUCTION ON THE SIDE WALK. ROUTINE NATIONAL STUDIES SHOW CRIMINALIZATION TO ADDRESS ISSUES STEMMING FROM HOMELESSNESS INCREASES THE COST TO TAXPAYER. ALBUQUERQUE IS A CASE STUDY. FOR EXAMPLE THE $1 MILLION SPENT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ON ENCAMPM CLEAN UP HAS COST EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER $2. WHILE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BECOMING HOMELESS CONTINUES TO CLIMB. I'M SKEPTICAL ON APD, ALLUDED TO BY COUNCIL, CAN ENFORCE THIS WITHOUT DETRACTING FROM RESPONSE TIME. I HOPE COUNCIL WILL LEAD INTO THE ARGOUS NATURE OF THE DEMOCRACY AND DEFER SO THESE ISSUES CAN BE BUILT WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS IN LINE WITH HOMELESS ACTION PLAN. THANKS. >> MONET FOLLOWED BY TRAVIS. FOLLOWED BY TOD ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS. WE'RE OPPOSED TO ORDINANCE O-24-42. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THAT HAPPENING THE OTHER ADVOCATES IN CHAMBER AND ZOOM FOR SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING OUT FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF OUR NEIGHBORS. IT WILL CRIMINALIZE EXPERIENCING HOMELESS AND IMPACT POTENTIAL FOR SCOMBRAUB OPPORTUNITIES. DEAPPEAR BLPG TO END HOMELESSNESS WE NEED TO INVEST PROVEN SOLUTIONS AT THE SCALE NECESSARY. PROVIDING ACCESS TO DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND VOUNTARY HEALTH CARE IS MORE EFFECTIVE AT ENDING HOMELESSNESS THAN OUT DATING AND DEHUMANIZING STRATEGIES LIKE CRIMINALIZATION. THANK YOU. >> TRAVIS FOLLOWED BY TOD. >> GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT THIS EVENING EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON. I AM HERE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ORDINANCE O-42. PEOPLE HAVE ELOQUENTLY SAID THERE'S A LOT OF DISCREPANCIES AND PROBLEMS WITH THIS LEGISLATION HERE. I HOPE THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL WILL HEAR THE VOICE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IN THE ONE MINUTE WE'RE GIVEN. I LIVE BY HIGHLAND HIGH SCHOOL. I'M IN COUNCILOR ROGERS'S DISTRICT. APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP, COUNCILOR ROGERS. WE ALL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE TO SUPPORT OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION. THEY'RE GREETED WITH DUMP TRUCKS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND SHOULD BE GREETED WITH WARM BEDS, PLACE TO SHOWER, FOOD TO EAT AND WE CAN DO LOT BETTER THAN THIS BILL. PLEASE VOTE NO OR DEFER. THANK YOU. >> TOD FOLLOWED BY ANALIE. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR LEWIS COUNCILORS. I'VE LIVED AND WORKED IN DOWN TOFOR 35 YEARS. MY WIFE AND I OWN 60 APARTMENT UNITS IN OR AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA INCLUDING A MIXED USE PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE THAT HAS A RESTAURANT. WE'VE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RENOVATING OUR PROPERTIES AND KEEPING THEM IN GOOD CONDITION. I THANK COUNCILOR BACA FOR WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR DOWNTOWN BLIGHT. I SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF O-42. WE HAVE MANY PROPERTIEDS BLIGHTED NEGLECTED OR IGNORED. THE LACK OF ACTIVITY ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO REST, SLEEP OR CAMP IN FRONT OF PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAYS BY USE OF CUSTOMERS WHICH FEEDS THE CYCLE OF DISINVESTMENT. ALTHOUGH THE LEGISLATION IS NOT PERFECT, I URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE BILL WITH MODEST CHANGES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> EMILY FOLLOWED BY PAULA. >> YEAH, HI. I'M AN ORGANIZER WITH THE PEOPLE'S HOUSING PROJECT AS WELL AS PARTY FOR SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION. I LIVED IN THE DOWNTOWN AND BARELA'S AREA FOR MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE. AND THE UNHOUSED PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MY NEIGHBORS. I KNOW SOME OF THEM BY NAME. AND I'M DISGUSTED BY THIS ORDINANCE, AND THE WAY IT CRIMINALIZES THEM. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE PUSHED AROUND TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY. THEY DESERVE HOUSING. I AMMING THERE'S NOT A SILVER BULLET. IT'S TO HOUSE THESE PEOPLE. AND THE SILVER BULLET IS TO INCREASE SPENDING ON SOCIAL SERVICES. I'M CONCERNED WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE SIGNS OR BANNERS. ESPECIALLY THE ATTACKS ON THE RIGHT TO PROTEST. RIGHT NOW -- >> THANK YOU. THE TIME IS UP. >> HI. I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR SOME MEMBERS OF THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND MY COMMENT IS TO SPECIFICALLY OPPOSE SECTION FIVE OF THE ORDINANCE. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WHAT EXISTS DOWNTOWN AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EXIST IN ABUNDANCE IS RESOURCES FOR UNHOUSED FOLKS. AND IT SEEMS BACKWARDS TO ME THAT PEOPLE NEED TO REST BETWEEN APPOINTMENTS. THEY NEED TO BE THERE TO MAKE THEIR APPOINTMENTS. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT IF YOU ARE CONSTANTLY BEING DISPLACED WHICH IS WHAT THIS CITY SEEMS TO DO WHERE A LOT OF MONEY, I MEAN I KNOW THERE IS MONEY IN NON PROFIT AND THE RESOURCES THAT DO EXIST DOWNTOWN FOR MY FOLKS. BUT JUST THE CONSTANT DISPLACEMENT MAKES IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET THERE ANYWAY. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ROSEMARY FOLLOWED BY TERRY. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> OKAY. I'M A RESIDENT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. I'M A VOTER AND PARTICIPANT IN CIVICS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I ASK YOU TO DEFER ACTION ON THIS ORDINANCE. SOME OF THE ORDINANCE RAISES CONCERNS IN THE NEW MEXICO AND U.S. CONSTITUTION. THEY'RE AT ODDS WITH THE STATED ORDINANCE WITH RESTRICTING FLUORS SECRETE SCAPE. LONG VACANT BUILDINGS ARE A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. AND PLANS TO DEAL WITH THAT ARE IMPORTANT. O-24-42 GOES A LOT FURTHER AND PROPOSES RESTRICTIONS AND PROHIBITION THAT THREATEN THE FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES AND ALL NEW MEXICANS. THESE RESTRICTIONS WOULD HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT ON FREEDOM OF EX-PROTECTION. EXPRESSION. AND ONE QUESTION I HAVE, HAVE EITHER OF OUR SENATORS ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO THIS? BECAUSE THE AREA THAT'S -- THAT MAKES IT SO HARD TO DEMONSTRATE IS WHERE THEIR OFFICES ARE. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> TWO MORE POINTS. THE PROHIBITION ON THINGS LIKE SIDE WALK NEWSSTANDS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ROSEMARY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE TORY FOLLOWED BY SEPTEMBER. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH TRYING TO MAKE DOWNTOWN ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. THIS BILL DOESN'T DO THAT. IF IT COULD BE CUT IN PIECES, YEAH, LEAVE THE PART ABOUT VACANT BUILDINGS. DO THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SECTION FIVE, THE OBSTRUCTION PART THAT CAUSES ME SLEEPLESS NIGHTS EVER SINCE I READ IT. I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT CHILLED ME. IT SEEMED DIBBING -- DICTTATORIAL. AND A VIOLATION OFT RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE. OF FREE PROTEST. OF FREE ASSEMBLY. AND SO, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO VOTE NO AT LEAST ON SECTION FIVE. AND IT'S DYSTOPIAN. I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS. IT'S LIKE TAKING AN ERASER AND ERASING EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE UP PLEASANT TO PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. UNPLEASANT TO SEE PROTESTERS. UNPLEASANT TO SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> SEPTEMBER FOLLOWED BY PAUL. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M SOMEONE THAT WORKS DOWNTOWN. I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO ORDINANCE 24-42. I'M DEEPLY UPSET TO SEE THE NEWEST WAVE OF ANTI- HOMELESS IS IN ALBUQUERQUE. A LAW THAT PROHIBITS SLEEPING, SITTING, KNEELING OR CROUCHING IN PUBLIC CRIMINALIZING FUNCTIONALITY. [ INAUDIBLE ] THE PROTEST QUASHING CLAUSES OF THE OBSTRUCTION SECTION IS WORRISOME. IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND AUTHORITARIAN. AS CITY COUNCILORS I WOULD LIKE TO IMAGINE YOU CHOSE TO SERVE ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE YOU VALUE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE. YOU VALUE THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. IT'S ANTI- DEMOCRATIC ORDINANCE. PLEASE DEMONSTRATE YOUR HUMANITY AND VOTE NO ON O-2-42. >> PAUL FOLLOWED BY SARAH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I AM A DOWNTOWN RESIDENT WHO WISHES TO LIVE IN A MORE V VIBRANT, ATTRACTIVE AND SAFE CITY. I SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S ONE STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. AN ATTRACTIVE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN IS A PRIMARY INDICATOR OF A HEALTHY CITY. NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE OR WORK DOWNTOWN, BUT FOR THOSE OF US THAT DO WE WANT THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THE SAFETY AND BEAUTY OF DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS BY ADDRESSING THE MANY VAC WANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. THIS AFFECTS PROPERTY IN DISTRICT TWO. IT HAS NO IMPACT ON ANY OTHER CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE IS OPPOSITION TO STARTING THE PROCESS TO FIND THE SOLUTIONS NEEDING TO ADDRESS THE COMPLEX SOLUTION. VOTE YES FOR STARTING THE PROCESS FOR CREATING A HEALTHY, VIBRANT ATTRACTIVE ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY RUTH. >> HELLO. I STAND OPPOSED TO THIS ORDINANCE. SPECIFICALLY THE SECTION FIVE. COUNCILOR BACA, I ATTENDED YOUR TOWN HALL ONLY A WEEK AGO, WHERE YOU HAD SPOKEN OF OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS AS NEIGHBORS TO BE CARED FOR. THAT WAS WHAT YOU WANTED TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN. SO READING THIS ORDINANCE A WEEK LATER WAS VERY SHOCKING, DISTURBING ALARMING. AND I DID EMAIL YOU TO ASK YOU FOR MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. IN CONTRAST TO YOUR TAKE ON HAVING EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AGREEING WITH YOU AND THINKING THAT'S THE RIGHT TRACK, AS A TEACHER, WHEN MY STUDENTS WERE ANGRY WITH ME IT WAS A SIGNAL I WASN'T LISTENING. I WASN'T HEARING THEIR NEEDS. AS THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME JUST SAID A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL. TO ATTRACT PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO SLEEP IS NOT OKAY. YOU NEED HOUSING. THIS IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO THAT. >> RUTH FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH NEW MEXICO CENTER ON LAW AND POVERTY. WE STAND STRONG OPPOSITION. CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS IS PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TO BE INEFFECTIVE AND COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. IN AFFORDABLE FINES MAKES IT HARDERED FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED TO FIND JOBS. THE NO OBSTRUCTION ZONE -- IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO PUT PEOPLE FURTHER AWAY FROM ESSENTIAL SERVICES SUCH AS LAUNDRY, SHOWERS, FOOD AND ASSISTANCE AND HELP WITH FINDING WORK. IT WOULD PUSH PEOPLE INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY'RE OFTEN UNWELCOME. THE CITY HAS DONE A THOUSAND SWEEPS OF UNHOUSED IN THE LAST YEAR. SPENDING OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. IN THAT TIME HOMELESSNESS HAS SIMPLY INCREASED. THERE MUST BE BETTER USES OF CITY RESOURCES. THE SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS IS HOUSING, NOT PUNISHMENT. IF THE CITY WANTS TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS THE CITY MUST RESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU. JANICE FOLLOWED BY GREGORY. >> I'M BACK, SPEAKING AS A STAFFER AT THE HEALTH EQUITY COUNSEL. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGE JUST CRIMINALIZATION AND RESTRICTION OF CIVIL RIGHTS. SECTION FIVE IS A CONTINUATION OF THE WHITTLING DOWN OF PUBLIC SPACES WHERE PEOPLE LIVING OUTSIDE CAN -- PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACTS. THIS SECTION ENCOURAGES OTHERS EVEN OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN TO REMOVE PEOPLE WITH THREATS OF ESCALATION FROM SIDEWALKS. AS I ALREADY PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED MORE THAN ONCE. THERE'S A RIPPLE EFFECT TO BUSINESSES INCLUDING NEWSPAPER STANDS TO PROTESTERS INCLUDING RESTRICTIONS ON PORTABLE SIGNS AND BANNERS TO SERVE AS AGENCIES DISALLOWING THEM TO GET LIVE SAVING SERVICES. I HAVE A QUOTE FROM SOMEBODY THAT LIVED OUTSIDE BY FIXING BICYCLES AND MAKING ART. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GAIN FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS EVERYTHING TO LOSE? >> HI, I'M GREG. I AM NOT SURE IF ANYBODY ELSE MADE THIS POINT. I'VE BEEN AWAY FROM THE MEETING. I FIND IT DARKLY AMUSING AND IN TERMS OF HYPOCRISY OF RECOGNIZING RECOVERY MONTH WHEN STUDIES SHOW THAT 50% OF UNHOUSED PEOPLE NEED HELP WITH RECOVERY. AND I THINK THE FURTHER CRIMINALATION OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE PLACE WHERE I LIVE IS UNCONSCIONABLE. PLEASE VOTE AGAINST O-24-42. THANK YOU. >>TRUDY FOLLOWED BE LAURA. CAN YOU UNMUTE? >> THERE WE GO. SORRY. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK THIS BILL IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK. I APPRECIATE THE ATTEMPT AT PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND I GREW UP IN TUCSON. I GOT TO WITNESS FIRST-HAND HOW THE REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN AFFECTED THE ENTIRE AREA, INCLUDING THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THAT VITALIZATION INCREASED TOURISM, IT ALSO INCREASED THE WANT OF LARGE BUSINESSES TO BRING THEIR BUSINESSES TO THE TUCSON AND PIMA COUNTY AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BENEFIT HAPPEN FOR ALBUQUERQUE AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO SIGH THAT LIVING DOWNTOWN, WE GO DOWNTOWN ALL THE TIME AND I DON'T WANT TO HARM UNHOUSED PEOPLE BY ANY MEAN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S VERY DISTURBING TO BE DOWNTOWN ENJOYING OUR COMMUNITY AND FINDING A HOMELESS PEOPLE FULLING DOWN THEIR PANTS AND URINEATING OR DEFECATING IN THE STREET. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SOME SOLUTION FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> MARA FOLLOWED BY JESUS. >> HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M A RESIDENT OF COUNCILOR BACA'S DISTRICT. I'M HERE TO OPPOSE O-42. IN PARTICULAR, ON THE OBSTRUCTION CLAUSE. NOT ONLY IS THE SECTION DISGUSTING CRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY, BUT IT ALSO OBSTRUCTS MY ACCESS TO -- DENIES MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO PROTEST. FOR THOSE REASONS I OPPOSE THIS MEASURE. THANK YOU. >> JESUS. >> HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I AM THE FOUNDING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF WORKS IN DOWNTOWN ALBUQUERQUE. I JUST WANT TO SAY FOLLOW I DO FOLLOW AND FEEL THE SENTIMENT OF MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS IN DOWNTOWN. AND I DO AGREE THE BILL NEEDS REFINEMENT TO BE EFFECTIVE. I ALSO TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT COUNCILOR BACA DOES UNDERSTAND THAT AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M HERE. I DO TRUST THE MAN. HE BELIEVES THAT -- HE LISTENS TO PEOPLE. AS FOR DOWNTOWN AND THE REGION, WE HAVE PASSED BY DEADLINE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE BACK. THREE TIMES A DAY, THEY DEFECATE IN THE BACK. WE HAVE CAMERAS THAT CAPTURE THAT. SOMETHING DOES NEED TO BE DONE. AND I THINK I GET THIS BILL IS -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BILL OF THE BEGINNING TO BEAUTIFY, HOPEFULLY, THE CITY WE LOVE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE SPONSOR AND COUNCILOR BACA. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS. FROM VARIOUS COUNCILORS. I RECOMMEND THAT WE HEAR THOSE AMENDMENTS AND WALK THROUGH THAT AND THEN -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT AND AT LEAST IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN WITH AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO START WITH AMENDMENTS. I HAVE SEVERAL AS WELL. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY MOTIONS? THIS WILL BE OUR DISCUSSION, QUESTION TIME. AND OPEN FOR AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR ROGERS. THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT WITHIN OUR iPADS. I DO HAVE SOME COPIES HERE. I'LL GO WITH THE FIRST ONE. THEY'RE IN THE iPADS. I HAVE HARD COPIES JUST IN CASE. THIS ONE IS ON PAGE 19, AMENDING 8-7-2-14. STRIKING SUBSECTION B, AND SUBSECTION G ON LINE 22 THROUGH 23 AND RENUMBER SUBSECTIONS ACCORDINGLY. WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN FOR THE AUDIENCE, IF POSSIBLE. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT UP, THE AMENDMENT REMOVES SUBSECTION OF WRONGFUL USE OF SIDEWALKS WITH NO OBSTRUCTION ZONES. THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE POSSIBLE ENFORCEMENT OF FINES OF THOSE SLEEPING, KNEELING, OR CROUCHING OF SIDE WALK. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. QUESTION FOR THE STAFF ON THIS. I GUESS IS THERE ANYTHING -- THIS SPECIFIC AMENDMENT THAT STRIKES THIS LUMG, THIS IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT LAW OF ALBUQUERQUE? WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC AMENDMENT. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, ARE YOU REFERRING TO HOW WE LOOK AT OBSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW? >>COUN. LEWIS: YES, SPECIFICALLY THIS PART OF IT. >> THAT IS DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW. WE LOOK AT ENCAMPMENTS AND HOW THEY OBSTRUCT SIDEWALKS. RIGHT NOW THE DEFINITION OF ENCAMPMENT HAS THREE POINTS OF CONNECTION. WHEN YOU THINK OF STRUCTURE, TENT, ET CETERA. THIS PROHIBITS SITTING AGAINST THE BUILDING, SLEEPING ALONG THE SIDE WALK EVEN WITHOUT WE DEFINE AS ENCAMPMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO SAY OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PROHIBITS OBSTRUCTION OF SIDE WALK. I DO SEE THIS ORDINANCE IS DIFFERENT AND MORE SPECIFIC AND IT WOULD PROHIBIT THE PARTIAL OF OBSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK. WHICH RIGHT NOW I WOULD READ IT AS COMPLETE. YOU CAN IMAGINE SOMEONE SITTING, BLOCKING TWO-THIRDS THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY AND APPLY TO THAT SITUATION WHERE THE PERSON HAS TO GO AROUND SOMEONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S SIMILARITIES, BUT SOME FURTHER DETAIL. >> FURTHER DETAIL IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT. MOVED AND SECONDED. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BACA: MR. PRESIDENT, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I UNDERSTOOD THIS TO BE WE WOULDN'T BE MAKING ANY MOTIONS OR FINAL DECISIONS JUST YET. DID I UNDERSTAND THAT WRONG? >>COUN. LEWIS: IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU. THE AMENDMENTS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IT'S MOVING TOWARD A VOTE. UNLESS THE SPONSOR WOULD WANT TO -- >> MR. PRESIDENT -- >>COUN. LEWIS: THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE iPADS TO CONSIDER. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT TO DEFER THE WHOLE THING. YOU KNOW, WITH THESE -- DO YOU WANT THEM CONSIDERED AND A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS YOU WANT TO DISCUSS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, IF I MAY, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO RUN THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PUT ON TO THE iPAD FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES BUT NOT MOVE OR VOTE ON THEM TONIGHT. IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, THE SPONSOR AMENDMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THE SECONDER WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: WANT TO JUST TALK ABOUT EACH AMENDMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS AN OPTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW THAT MOTION? IT'S UP TO YOU, COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M HAPPY TO WITHDRAW SO WE CAN DISCUSS. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. >>COUN. ROGERS: MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS THE PERSON THAT SECONDED THAT, I DO NOT AGREE TO WITHDRAW, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW THE RULE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE RULE IS ON THE TABLE, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE WE CAN DO THAT, OR WE CAN WITHDRAWAL IT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WILL HONOR THE SPONSOR'S WISH. IT DOES FEEL LIKE, IT'S IN HERE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TONIGHT. THEY WANT TO HEAR SOME MOVEMENT. I WILL RESPECT THE SPONSOR'S WISH. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DO PLAN TO BRING IT BACK. I AM OKAY WITHDRAWING RIGHT NOW TO GET THROUGH THE PROPER SERIES. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. MY INTENT TONIGHT IS TO DEFER THIS FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. I THINK HEARING EVERYTHING TONIGHT, HEARING ALL THE COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ALL THE AMENDMENTS. I DO THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD POINTS AND SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THIS FEEDBACK AND ALL THIS FEEDBACK AND MAKE SOME CHANGES SO WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL JUST READ AND DISCUSS EACH AND EVERY AMENDMENT. HOW WOULD WE BRING THEM BEFORE THE -- BRING THEM UP FOR DISCUSSION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE CAN DO IT THE SAME PROCESS WITH THE IDO, YOU HAVE EACH AMENDMENT, STAFF RUN THROUGH EACH AMENDMENT AND WHAT THEY DO. IF NO ONE PLANS ON MOVING THE AMENDMENT SO PEOPLE CAN VOTE ON THEM. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL JUST HEAR FROM THE STAFF. THE STAFF WILL EXPLAIN EACH AMENDMENT. AND WE CAN DISCUSS THEM IF WE LIKE TO OR HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. OKAY. THAT WILL BE OUR DISCUSSION. COUNCILOR BACA, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: I DON'T SUPPORT THE BILL IN GENERAL. THIS IS REMINISCENT OF THE LOW RIDER ORDINANCE THAT WAS REPEALED A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN IT TARGETED A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION AND IT WAS ALL UNDER THE GUYS OF REDEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESS -- THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN, I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND YOU KNOW COUNCILOR BACA WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS ORDINANCE FORWARD WITH JUST THAT AND THE SUPPORT OF SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION. I REALLY KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE OWNED THEIR BUILDING PROPERTIES DOWNTOWN FOREVER. AND YOU KNOW, I'M AFRAID OF THE DISPLACEMENT. ALSO OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE OWNED THOSE PROPERTIES. I THINK AS A CITY WE SHOULD WORK WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS TO HELP THEM REVITALIZE AND REDEVELOP THE PROPERTIES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY CIP, ALTHOUGH OUR CIP IS INCLUSIVE OF OUR DOWNTOWN AND OFFICE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, COUNCILOR BACA'S DISTRICT, IS HISTORICALLY HAD THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF CAPITAL OUTLAY THAT'S GONE IN THE DISTRICT COMPARISON TO THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCILORS. AND I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT NEXT YEAR'S CIP WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW THESE INVESTMENTS ARE MADE FOR OUR DOWNTOWN. I'VE BEEN DOING THE COMMUNITY WORK IF MUCH LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS COME AND GO. AND DOWNTOWN HAS ALWAYS BEEN A FOCUS. ALWAYS THE FOCUS ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE ON PEOPLE OF COLOR, MINORITIES, YOU KNOW. I JUST REALLY FEAR THAT THE COUNCIL -- IF THE URGE IS TO DEFER, I WON'T SUPPORT THAT. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT COUNCILOR ROGERS'S AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS WITHDRAWAL. THERE'S NOT A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. AND THEN WE'LL HEAR -- WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THE AMENDMENTS. AT LEAST PRESENTED BEFORE 5 O'CLOCK. AND WE'LL THE SPONSOR, COUNCILOR BACA, DECIDE ON WHAT MOTION HE'D LIKE TO MAKE AT THAT POINT. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR WITHDRAW. ANY DISCUSSION ON WITH THE DRAW? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> IT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS BILL IS ON THE TABLE. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK EDIT. I JUST REALIZED THE PAPER COPY I HANDED EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT THAN THE iPAD VERSION. MY APOLOGIES. AND IN THE iPAD VERSION, IF WE CAN PUT THAT UP FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE CORRECT VERSION WAS THE ONE ON THE SCREEN. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE WERE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT ONE. I THOUGHT I WAS WRONG. THANK YOU. I ASK FOR A DO PASS. >>COUN. ROGERS: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. THE ONE ON THE SCREEN IS CORRECT. >> IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE, I CAN CLARIFY WHAT THIS AMENDMENT DOES. >>COUN. LEWIS: GO AHEAD. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WHAT THIS DOES IS UNDER -- OBSTRUCTION ZONE, IT GETS RID OF THE SLEEPING, SITTING KNEELING. AND SUBSECTION E, WHICH IS CARRYING BANNERS OR FOOT BATH THAT CAUSES OBSTRUCTION OF SIDE WALK OR FOOTPATH. AND ANY CONDUCT THAT DEPRIVES PEDESTRIANS OF THE SIDE WALK OR FOOTPATH AND RELETTERS THROUGHOUT THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ] -- JUST REALLY QUICKLY. NOT OPPOSING THIS MOTION. HOWEVER, IN THE SPIRIT OF ALL THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH. I ASK -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR BACA. THIS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS. IF I READ THE OTHER NINE. THIS IS DUPLICATING WHAT AMENDMENT THREE WAS GOING TO DO. I GET THE WHOLE POINT OF READING THROUGH THEM. I MIGHT BE OFF ON MY NUMBER. PLEASE DON'T HOLD ME TO IT. I'M ALL FOR READING THROUGH IT. HERE WE ARE GOING TO -- THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUSHED AND DEFERRED. IT SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS TO BEGIN WITH. IN ORDER TO MAKE ALL THESE AMENDMENTS DOWN AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND DOING THE SAME THING OVER TO THIS DEAL, I CAN'T -- I SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I DON'T SUPPORT PUSHING IT THROUGH. THIS SHOULD BE DEFERRED. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, WE CAN MOVE AMENDMENTS, WE CAN HEAR THE REST OF THESE BY OUR STAFF. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO DEFER THE BILL, WE WHAT WE CAN DO IS GET A BOOKLET LIKE WE DO WITH LUPZ, IT HAS THE AMENDMENTS AND SHOWS THE AMENDMENTS FOR THE COUNCILORS. OR WE CAN GO THROUGH EACH AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT CAN WE DONE WITH THE ENTIRE BILL. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION WE'LL DO IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: JUST LISTENING TO ALL THIS. I TOOK TONS AND TONS OF NOTES. I WROTE DOWN EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS I DID NOTICE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BILL AND TOTALITY, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE PISSED OFF. BOTH SIDES. I THINK THIS BILL NEEDS A LOT MORE WORK. I THINK WE CAN SEPARATE THESE BILLS AND BREAK THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN AND WORK ON EACH BILL SIMULTANEOUSLY OR JUST WORK ON EACH BILL INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE HOW THEY WORK OUT. WHEN THIS STACK IS DONE, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO. I THINK WE NEED TO DEFER IT AND WORK ON IT. AND GET IT MORE READY AND PREPARED FOR PRIME TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT'S UP TO THE SPONSOR. ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT. SPONSOR CAN DECIDE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH IT. I THINK I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR, COUNCILOR BACA, FOR PROPOSING THIS. YOU KNOW -- ALSO NOTHING WRONG WITH PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW? I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH A LOT OF THINGS SEPARATE WITH SEPARATE BILLS. THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. THAT'S THE PROCESS FOR AMENDMENTS. THAT'S THE PROCESS TO TRY TO GET CONSENSUS ON THE COUNCIL FOR IT. IF WE'RE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS, IF WE'RE VOTING ON AMENDMENTS TONIGHT, I HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD -- BECAUSE AGAIN THE SPONSOR HAS TAKEN THE EFFORT TO PROPOSE THIS, I DON'T -- I'M GOING TO PROPOSE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY GET TO A BILL THAT I COULD LIVE WITH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND AGAIN, THE DECISION IS WHETHER WE DO THAT TONIGHT, OR WHETHER WE DO IT CONTINUANCE ON THIS BILL OR DEFER IT AND CONTINUE ON WITH IT. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. FOR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND WITH THAT, ALL THE AMENDMENTS BE COMPILED TOGETHER SO EVERYONE CAN REVIEW THEM AND GO THROUGH THEM TO AVOID THE CONFUSION THAT'S HAPPENING TONIGHT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE. WHICH WOULD CONTINUE TO THE NEXT FULL COUNCIL MEETING, CORRECT? AND IMAGINE BY THE AMENDMENT SO FAR PROPOSED IN THE iPADS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, SO MAYBE THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THE STAFF DOES A NEW WRITE UP, NEW SUMMARY OF WHAT THOSE AMENDMENTS WOULD DO. AND HAVE ANOTHER FEW WEEKS FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER IT AND SPONSOR TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I CAN'T SUPPORT CONTINUANCE IT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT TIME. IF WE'RE SAYING WE REALLY NEED TIME TO ADD AND HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS BILL I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THIS. I CAN'T SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE. AND AGAIN, I DON'T SUPPORT THE BILL AND I WOULD STILL LIKE CONSIDERATION TO MOVE COUNCILOR ROGERS AMENDMENT ONCE MORE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW WITH THE CONTINUANCE WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT KIND OF ORDINANCE WE CAN PROVIDE WHERE IT REALLY PINS ON PEOPLES RIGHTS. THAT'S WHERE I STAND. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS CONTINUANCE. SECONDED. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR THE STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONTINUANCE AND DEFERRAL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IF IT'S CONTINUANCE, THAT MEANS WE CONTINUE FORWARD SO THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE COUNCIL WOULD START OFF ON THE DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING. A DEFERRAL WOULD MEAN IT WOULD PUT TO BED TODAY AND THE NEXT MEETING IF IT COMES BACK THE PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THE MEETING. >>COUN. ROGERS: AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH COMMITTEE? THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: CONTINUANCE IS ON THE TABLE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ON THE MOTION. >>COUN. BACA: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. I LITTLE CONFUSED ON HOW CONTINUANCE. MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO QUASH COMMENTS. I PUT IN FOR WITHDRAWAL. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. THE CONTINUANCE IS WITHDRAWN. >>COUN. BACA: MOTION FOR DEFERRAL UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WITH EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER FOR ALL THE COUNCILORS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION IS FOR DEFERRAL TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON DEFERRAL? CLOSE DISCUSSION. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO O-25. THIS IS COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-25 AMENDING ARTICLES 13 AND 16 FOR ELECTIONS AND PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING. I MOVE DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. FOR A DO PASS. THIS IS O-25. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS. LISA AND RUDOLPH. RUDOLPH -- THERE HE IS. LISA FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON LANGUAGE. PAGE EIGHT, LINES FIVE THROUGH ELEVEN. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE LANGUAGE CHANGE. IT SAYS SETTING FORTH OF THE LISTING CANDIDATES MEMBERSHIPS AND POSITIONS IF ANY IN IN PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND ANY SOURCE OF INCOME THAT ACCOUNT FOR 5% OF THE CANDIDATES TOTAL INCOME. THAT WHOLE SECTION IS CROSSED OUT. MY QUESTION IS ALL SOURCES OF INCOME EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT MUST BE DISCLOSED IS WHAT'S REPLACING IT. AND THEN NUMBER FIVE A SAYS EARNED INCOME IS NOT THE SAME -- I'M SAYING, IT'S SAYING THE CANDIDATE HAS TO DISCLOSE EARNED INCOME. THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THE LANGUAGE THAT CROSSED OUT THAT SAYS ANY SOURCE OF INCOME. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE REASONING BEHIND TAKING OUT AN ACCOUNT OF 5% OR MORE OF THE CANDIDATE'S TOTAL INCOME AND REPLACING THAT WITH HAVING TO DECLARE ASSETS THAT ARE $50,000 OR MORE. >> RUDOLPH. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK ANYTHING THAT WOULD MAKE ELECTIONS CLEARER AND MORE FAIR FOR THE PEOPLE IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SUPPORT. WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THE MAYOR ANNOUNCE HIS THIRD CANDIDACY. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S A CLEAN ONE. I'M NOT OPPOSING TO ANYTHING. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FOR FIVE YEARS ON THE ELECTION FROM YOU GUYS. I CANNOT PUSH AGAINST HIM BECAUSE I CANNOT PUSH AGAINST YOU. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE WANT TO BE IN POWER AND WHO DO WE GET THE MONEY FROM. DEFINITELY WE NEED TO STOP GETTING MONEY FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. THAT'S AN ACT OF TREASON. AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT SENSE BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST NATIONAL SECURITY. AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I MOVE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IN THE iPADS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I SPOKE WITH COUNCILOR BACA A FEW TIMES AND WORKED WITH THE CITY CLERK TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES. COUNCILOR BACA AND I DISCUSSED IT. I WAS FINE WITH HIM DOING THE FLOOR SUB, BUT THERE'S PROBLEMS I HAD WITH SOME OF THE DISCLOSURES. I THINK WITH THIS FLOOR SUB THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR DEFERRAL. THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE TIME TO GET ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED. IN ADDITION TO THAT BILL, I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S CHANGES MADE THAT I SUPPORT IN THIS FLOOR SUB TO INCLUDE THE FACT THAT OUR DEPENDENTS, IF THEY'RE UNDER 18 SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE ANY WHEREABOUTS AND JOB BE DISCLOSED. THAT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT. AS FAR AS VEHICLES, I KNOW I'M VERY BLESSED, VERY PRIVILEGED. WELL AWARE, VERY PROUD OF THAT. MY VEHICLE IS MORE THAN $50,000. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT CHANGES HOW I GOVERN. VEHICLES HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN OMITTED. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES IN HERE THAT I THINK WAS A REALLY GOOD COMPROMISE SO THERE'S STILL THE DISCLOSURE FOR TRANSPARENCY, ESPECIALLY WHEN COMES TO WHERE AND HOW WE GOVERN. THE LAST ONE I HAD A BIG PROBLEM WAS WITH ANY REAL PROPERTIES WE AS COUNCILORS OWN, WHETHER WE'RE CANDIDATES OR ELECTED OFFICIALS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO PUT FULL ADDRESS. THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD, PEOPLE CAN CAN DIG FOR IT. WE DON'T HAVE TO SIT OUT AND BLAST IT. IF I HAD A HOUSE IN JEMEZ, WHICH I DON'T, IF I DID, I SHOULD JUST PUT MY ZIP CODE. SO THAT IF ANY, NOT THAT ANYONE HAS BEEN MAD AT ME, IF ANYONE IS MAD AT ME WHERE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RETALIATE ABOUT THAT SO MUCH. I THINK WE HAVE A SENSE OF DUTY TO BE TRANSPARENT BUT ALSO A SENSE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND SAFE FOR OURSELVES AND FAMILIES WHILE WE SIGN UP FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE. I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME OTHER CHANGES TO MAKE FROM THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HEARED FROM COUNCILORS. BUT WITH THE DEFERRAL AFTER THIS WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT STILL IN THE WORKS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE FLOOR SUB IS MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? TO SUBSTITUTE. [ ROLL CALL ] >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO WHAT'S BEFORE ME RIGHT HERE. COUNCILOR PEÑA, AMENDMENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. AND THIS IS -- I'LL READ THE EXPLANATION. YOU ALL HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. THIS MAKES IT SO DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AS OFFICIALS AND CANDIDATES. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. QUESTIONS ON THE AMENDMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT. I'M GLAD COUNCILOR PEÑA PUT THIS FORWARD. IN A TIME WEP -- WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY AND STILL INCREASING UNCLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, I THINK TRANSPARENCY GOES FOR ALL OF US. SO I THINK FOR CITY LEADERSHIP I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE DISCLOSURE FOR SEVERAL OF US OF WHETHER WE'RE ELECTED OR LEADING DEPARTMENTS. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT. I FULLY SUPPORT IT AS WELL. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE BILL? ANYONE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? NO? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THE BILL IS AMENDED. COUNCILOR PEÑA, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT? >>COUN. PEÑA: YES, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. STAFF CAN PUT IT UP AGAIN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. THIS FLOOR AMENDMENT IS -- I'M GOING TO READ THE EXPLANATION AND I CAN GIVE THE EXAMPLE AS TO WHY. THIS FLOOR AMENDMENT MAKES IT SO EACH PARTICIPATING CITY COUNCIL CANDIDATE RECEIVES $5ERED VOTER DISTRICT. THE REASON I PUT THIS FORWARD ISSION AS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION OR PART OF COUNCILOR BACA'S INTENT WAS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT DISTRICT THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR DISTRICT THREE BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE WAY THE PUBLIC FINANCING IS DISTRIBUTED IS THAT WHEN THE CENSUS IS CONDUCTED WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE NINE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS. EACH OF THE NINE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, THE POPULATION IS THE SAME WITH DEVIATION OF 5% IN THAT RANGE OF 5%. DIFFERENCE IN THE POPULATION. ESSENTIALLY YEAR ALL HAVE THE SAME POPULATION. BUT, THE WAY THE PUBLIC FINANCING WORKS IS THAT IT IS DISTRIBUTED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS IN EACH DISTRICT. SO YOU HAVE SOME DISTRICTS, UNFORTUNATELY HAPPEN TO BE MARGINALIZED DISTRICTS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE DISTRICT, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I FIRST READ THERE WAS A COUNCILOR, I THINK SHE WAS RECEIVING $55,000 BECAUSE SHE HAD THAT AMOUNT OF REGISTERED VOTERS. BUT IN DISTRICT THREE THERE WAS ONLY 28,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. THE DISTRIBUTION IS DIS PROPORTIONATE. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEY TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT BY PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL DOLLAR AMOUNT TO DISTRICT THREE TO MAKE IT FAIR BUT IT WAS STILL LESS THAN MANY OF THE DISTRICTS. WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING, ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY THAT'S MARGINALIZED AND PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND YOU REALLY WANT, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS, WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO VOTE AND ENCOURAGE VOTER PARTICIPATION. SO WHEN THEY TRIED TO INCLUDE 40,000 A FEW YEARS BACK I VOTED AGAINST IT ON PRINCIPLE BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY HAD TO -- WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE POOR PEOPLE IN DISTRICT THREE. I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE AN EQUITABLE PROCESS. SIMILAR TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, IF WE ALL HAVE THE SAME POPULATION, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS, THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE USED TO ENCOURAGE VOTER PARTICIPATION. WITH THAT, I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. MOVED AND SECONDED. SECOND BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. THAT'S MOVED AND SECONDED. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. I AGREE WITH THE DESIRE TO BE EQUITABLE. I'M NOT SURE THIS IS EQUITABLE. I'VE TRADITIONALLY SERVED A DISTRICT THAT HAS OUTGROWN EVERY DISTRICT IN THE CITY DECADE COMES AND EVERYBODY'S EVEN, AFTER EIGHT YEARS, YOU HAVE SOME DISTRICTS SMALLER THAN THE OTHER, BUT YOU HAVE SOME ON THE TOP OF THE SCALE LARGER THAN THE OTHERS AND THIS MAY NOT BE EQUITABLE IF IT BRINGS IT DOWN TO $55,000. I DON'T REMEMBER. I SERVE A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT. BUT IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THE LARGEST DISTRICTS IN THE CITY ON YEAR NINE. SO, WHICH SOMETIMES AN ELECTION FALLS ON. IF THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT $55,000 COULD BE EXTREMELY UNEQUITABLE WITH DIFFERENT PARTS OF GROWTH IN THE CITY. DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON THAT? ANY STATISTICS ON THAT? I DON'T GUESS IT'S ON HERE. >> I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO PULL UP THE WRITE UPRIGHT NOW. THE EXISTING DISTRIBUTIONS WERE PROVIDED IN THE WRITE UP. IF YOU GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF THERE'S NOT A BIG SEPARATION, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THE DISTRICTS ARE WITHIN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> MR. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE PROPOSED DISTRIBUTION OF $55,000 WOULD RAISE THE DISTRIBUTION FOR ALL COUNCIL CANDIDATES. >>COUN. LEWIS: I GUESS POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY COULD THAT SCENARIO HAPPEN LIKE THAT? >> CERTAINLY DEPENDING ON POPULATION GROWTH THE COUNCIL DISTRICT COULD EXCEED $55,000 AT SOME POINT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THE LOGIC BEHIND IT IS THE PUBLIC FINANCES IS CALCULATED BY AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO COMMUNICATE TO VOTERS IN THAT DISTRICT WHICH IS A NUMBER. I MEAN THERE'S A NUMBER OF IN THAT DISTRICT. THAT TIME OF THE ELECTION. SO, I'M FINE WITH RAISING IT SOME ACROSS THE BOARD, OR MORE PER VOTER. I CAN LIVE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, TO HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT TO A POPULATION OF A DISTRICT THAT'S JUST COMPLETELY -- A VERY LARGE SEPARATION AS FAR AS AMOUNT OF VOTERS, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THEN WE HAVE NO BASIS OF WHY WE'RE JUST GOING ON A NUMBER OF HEY, WE THINK THIS WILL MAKE A WINNABLE ELECTION FOR SOMEBODY THAT GOT THIS MONEY. I'M JUST OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE OF THE LOGIC BEHIND IT. NOT THE INTENT BUT THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR BACA, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL DEFER TO OTHER COUNCILORS. UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK, I WILL JUST SAY THAT IN THAT CASE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND NOT EQUITABLE, THE SAME IS ACTUALLY IF WE HAD THE NUMBERS FOR THE CENSUS ACTUALLY THE SOUTHWEST PART OF ALBUQUERQUE WAS THE MOST GROWTH DURING THE LAST CENSUS. IT ACTUALLY COMPOUNDS THE ARGUMENT THAT I'M MAKING. ALTHOUGH THE WEST SIDE BEING AN OVERALL 20% INCREASE IN POPULATION AND THERE WAS A DECREASE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT PERCENTAGE WAS. I'M JUST THROWING OUT SOME NUMBERS HERE. I'D LOVE FOR THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT FOR US IF NECESSARY. ACTUALLY, THE SOUTHWEST PART OF ALBUQUERQUE IS THE ONE SEEING THE MOST GROWTH IN THE LAST DECADE. YET, WHEN YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN AN AREA THAT IS 87% MINORITY, AND YOU HAVE -- I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW IF KEVIN HAS IT IN FRONT OF HIM. I WAS TRYING TO PULL IT UP. I HAVE DIFFERENT SCREENS OPEN AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE SCREEN I'M ON. I THINK IF YOU GO BASED ON VOTERS, DISTRICT THREE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A LOT LESS THAN THE 40,000 THAT WAS PASSED A FEW YEARS AGO AGAIN. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WAS PASSED AS AN ATTEMPT TO HELP OUT DISTRICT THREE, BUT I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS AS YOU'RE DISCUSSING AN -- IT WASN'T EQUITABLE. DISPROPORTIONATELY WAS GETTING MORE MONEY THAN EVERY SINGLE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. WITH THE $40,000 BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VOTERS, IF YOU'RE USING THAT LOGIC. THAT'S WHY I VOTED AGAINST IT AT THE TIME. I DIDN'T THINK JUST FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THROWING A BONE AT DISTRICT THREE WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO EITHER. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE GO THROUGH CENSUS AND REDISTRICTING AND IT ALL EVENS EVERY TEN YEARS. IN THE MEANTIME, THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT DOES MAKE IT EQUITABLE. AND YOU HAVE AN EVEN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR EVEN AMOUNT OF VOTERS YOU HAVE TO COMMUNICATE WITH. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA DID ASK, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, ALL THE NUMBERS I HAVE WILL BE PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE CITY CLERK. DISTRICT THREE DOES HAVE THE SMALLEST NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS AT THE CITY OF 33,233. ABSENT THE 40,000 IT WOULD BE ONE OF FOUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT ARE BELOW THE -- THAT GET THAT $40,000 AS PROVIDED BY THE FLOOR. IT'S ALSO THE ONLY COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT SHOULD -- THE BILL AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED OR SUBSTITUTED IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD NOT INCREASED BASED ON THE INCREASED DISTRIBUTION AS PROPOSED BY THE SUBSTITUTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF POPULATION OF ABOUT 15,000 PEOPLE. AND THEN ONE DISTRICT GETS THE SAME $55,000, AND THE OTHER -- SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY TO COMMUNICATE WITH 15,000 PEOPLE LESS. THE IDEA IS TO ATTACH THIS DIRECTLY TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU SPEND. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAILERS AND WHAT A CANDIDATE WOULD SPEND. IT WOULD ALMOST -- IT WOULD GIVE SOMEBODY IN THAT DISTRICT -- IT'S NOT THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, IT'S NOW THEY GOT TO DO THREE OR FOUR MORE MAILERS THAN THE OTHER DISTRICT DID BECAUSE THEY GOT TO MAIL TO MORE PEOPLE. THE LOGIC IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THERE'S SMALLER DISTRICTS AND BIGGER DISTRICTS. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHILE I UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR PEÑA'S CONCERN, QUALIFYING FOR PUBLIC FUNDING OR FINANCING IS PREDICATED ON THE AMOUNT OF DONATIONS YOU GET. $5 DONATIONS FROM REGISTERED VOTERS. THOSE OF US IN LARGER DISTRICTS HAVE TO COLLECT MORE DOLLARS THAN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE. IT WOULD BE QUITE A BIT MORE WORK FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS. AND THAT'S NOT EQUITABLE. THE OTHER PART, HOW WE CHOOSE TO SPEND THE DOLLARS, IF YOU WANT TO USE IT ON GET OUT THE VOTE OR MAILERS, THAT'S UP TO THE CANDIDATE. IF YOU CHOOSE HOW MUCH YOU RECEIVE AS A FLAT RATE, EVEN THOUGHIA HAVE TO ACHIEVE THAT NUMBER FOR QUALIFICATION, THAT IS UNEQUITABLE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I DO AGREE THAT'S INEQUITABLE IF YOU HAVE TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES AS EVERYONE ELSE. I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT. WITH HOW THE MONEY IS DISTRICTED ACCORD TO THE REGISTERED VOTERS IS EQUITABLE WAY TO DO IT. WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE AMOUNT OF -- COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS BEING HAD RIGHT NOW REALLY VALID, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AGREED WITH YOU AND WITH COUNCILOR BACA AND SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS EXCEPT FOR NOW WE HAVE SAME-DAY VOTER REGISTRATION. THAT TO ME MAKES A HUGE IMPACT. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO OUT AND KNOCK ON THE DOORS OF SOMEBODY AND YOU CAN GO OUT AND TALK TO THEM AND SEE IF THEY WANT YOU TO REPRESENT THEM, THEN PERHAPS THEY WILL GO AND REGISTER TO VOTE BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY PUT IN THAT EFFORT. AND FUNDING IS IMPORTANT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IN ADDITION TO THE FACT, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ANY OF YOU, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO SUSPECT THAT ALL OF US ARE NOT JUST HERE TO REPRESENT THOSE WHO VOTED IN THE ELECTION. WE'RE HERE TO REPRESENT ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT. AS MUCH AS I CAN HEAR THE ARGUMENT AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THERE WAS A TIME WHERE I WOULD HAVE STOOD BY THAT AS WELL, NOW I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY, THE SKY IS THE LIMIT WITH WHO VOTES FOR WHOM AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND THE WORK STILL NEEDS TO GO IN NO MATTER WHICH DISTRICT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE AND SUPPORT HAVE TO BE THERE. IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY IN MANY WAYS IT IS VERY TRUE MONEY TALKS AND IT HELPS US GET THERE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY CLERK. DO WE KNOW WHY IT WAS ORIGINALLY TIED TO REGISTERED VOTERS? >> GOOD EVENING, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR. >> MANY MUNICIPALITIES FOLLOWS THE SAME GRAMENT PROCESS. THE MAIN REASON IS THE WAY WE VERIFY THE $5 CONTRIBUTION IS THE VOTER REGISTRATION DATABASE. WE TRACK TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN THE DISTRICT, THEY'RE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND THAT'S HOW WE GIVE YOU THE TALLY AT THE END OF THE WEEK. WITHOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD VERIFY ANY CONTRIBUTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SHE HAD MY QUESTION. I'M GOOD. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO THE SPONSOR. COUNCILOR PEÑA. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. WE CAN HAVE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT SOME OF THE COUNCILORS SAID. ANYWAY, I JUST URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >>COUN. LEWIS: NO. >> FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS ? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS O-25 ASAMENDED. >>COUN. BACA: I MAKE A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL FOR OCTOBER 7th. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR DEFERRAL TO OCTOBER 7th. SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. QUESTION ON THE DEFERRAL? DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? [ ROLL CALL ] >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ITEM C, RA-2. COUNCILOR BASSAN OR COUNCILOR GROUT. I'M SORRY. BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE NEED TO GET THROUGH GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAKE SURE, AGAIN, MOST EVERYBODY -- I THINK MOST EVERYBODY FROM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WERE ON THAT LIST SPOKE DURING THE PREVIOUS BILL. WHICH IS WHY WE MOVED THAT UP. WE WANTED TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT BILL. AGAIN, THE INTENTION WAS HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. GO THROUGH THE LIST OF WHAT YOU KNOW OF THAT'S STILL MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE -- >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST A MOMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I LIKE TO EXTEND THE MEETING BY SUSPENDING THE RULES TO 11 O'CLOCK. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. SUSPEND THE RULES. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE SARAH FOLLOWED BY CARLA. CARLA FOLLOWED BY SAVANNAH. >> THANK YOU DEAR ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCILORS. I'M THE SPOUSE OF AN ALBUQUERQUE CITY FIREFIGHTER. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I GO TO THE FAMILY BARBECUES, THE WEDDINGS, THE GRADUATION AND FUNERALS OF AFR EMPLOYEES. I HAVE FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS. WHILE I'M THERE I HEAR THE STORIES, THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY WILL NEVER SAY IN PUBLIC. THINGS THEY WILL ONLY WHISPER IN THEIR HERE BEHIND THEIR HUSBAND'S BACK OR AFTER A FEW TOO MANY. THE POLICIES AND CULTURE OF AFR THREATEN TO PUSH INDIVIDUALS WITH PTSD, A CONDITION THAT AFFECTS ONE IN THREE FIRST RESPONDERS FURTHER INTO THE CLOSET. THIS CITY WILL CONTINUE TO BURN AND THERE WILL BE A LACK OF FIREFIGHTERS TO SAVE IT AS THEY CONTINUE TO KILL THEMSELVES WITH UNTREATED MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS. AS YOUNGER GENERATIONS BECOME EDUCATED AND LESS TOLERANT TO REPLACE THEM. -- DUE TO DEATHS OR IMPRISONMENT RELATED TO DUI BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL ALCOHOLICS DUE TO NOT GETTING THE THERP SERVICES NEEDED RELATED TO DISABILITY CAUSED BY THE WORK ENVIRONMENT. I'LL CUT IT SHORT BECAUSE MY TIME IS BRIEF. THERE'S NO POLICY REGARDING ADA WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AS I'M BECOMING AWARE. WE'VE RECEIVED COMMUNICATION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMUNICATION COUNCILOR GROUT, WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE AS A SPOUSE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT THIS IS THE CASE. AND THERE'S INADEQUATE RESPONSE TO THE ISSUES, TO MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. THIS CONTINUES. AND THE RIPPLE EFFECT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AFFECTS THE SPOUSES, THE CHILDREN AND THE OUT LYING COMMUNITY. IT IS A SILENT KILLER. IT MUST BE ADDRESSED. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >> CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALBUQUERQUE CITY COUNCILORS, I APPEAR BEFORE YOU RECENTLY ON AUGUST 19th TO INQUIRE REGARDING A CITY POLICY AND PROCEDURE FOR ADA ACCOMMODATION. SINCE THAT TIME I DID RECEIVE CONTACT FROM CITY COUNCIL WOMAN GROUT AND COUNCILOR ROGERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BOTH OF YOU, FOR SPEAKING OUT AND CONTACTING ME. TO EXPRESS EMPATHY FOR MY EXPERIENCE, BUT STATED THAT THERE WAS NOT A CITY POLICY OR PROCEDURE REGARDING ADA ACCOMMODATIONS. AND IT WAS UP TO EACH DEPARTMENT TO FORMULATE THEIR OWN. IN THE MEANTIME I HAVE BEEN AWARE OF ANOTHER BLACK FEMALE'S CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE EMPLOYEE WHO HAS HAD AN EXPERIENCE VERY SIMILAR TO MINE. SHE WAS REPEATEDLY DENIED REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS UNTIL SHE OBTAINED LEGAL REPRESENTATION AND THEN WHEN HER CASE WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE REQUEST WAS IMMEDIATELY GRANTED. I AM HERE IN ATTENDANCE TO PLEA FOR JUSTICE AND TO ADVOCATE FOR MY FELLOW FIRST RESPONDERS, CITY EMPLOYEES AND FELLOW CITIZENS WITH DISABILITIES. IN THIS INSTANCE THE CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP WITH A CITY POLICY ON ADA, INCLUDING EDUCATING LEADERS AND EMPLOYEES ABOUT ADA AND HOW IT WORKS. I'M NOT ONLY A LIEUTENANT FIREFIGHTER OF 27 YEARS, I ALSO AM A PRACTICING LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR. WHO HAS CREATE ADPEER SUPPORT PROGRAM PROGRAM FOR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE AS A PARALEGAL. I AM MORE THAN QUALIFIED AND WILLING TO ASSIST IN ANSWERING MY REQUEST FOR ACCOMMODATION. I ASSUME THERE'S A -- I'M SORRY. SINCE THIS WEEK, AFR HUMAN RESOURCE CHIEF REQUESTED MY RESUME. I ASK FOR ACCOMMODATION, AND THEY ASKED FOR MY RESUME. THEY DON'T GIVE ME ACCOMMODATION. THEY DON'T DISCUSS THAT. THEY ASK FOR UPDATED RESUME. I ASSUME THIS IS IN ORDER TO PUSH ME OUT OF AFR AND PLACE ME SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> DEPENDING ON THE OUTCOME OF THIS LEGAL PROCEEDING I MAY BE AVAILABLE TO HELP YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. CAN YOU LOOK INTO THIS FOR US? I'D APPRECIATE IT. CAN YOU GET WITH THOSE TWO? THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: HANG ON. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONE MORE FOLLOW UP, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE WOULD NEED ADA REQUIREMENTS? CAN WE ASK HR IF WE EVEN TRACK THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WE CAN LOOK INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND PROVIDE YOU SOME SORT OF GENERAL INFORMATION. THANK YOU. >> SAVANNAH FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL. MICHAEL FOLLOWED BY RUDOLPH. RUDOLPH FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY ON ZOOM. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU SERVE THE MILITARY, BUT I DID IN THE NAVY. I CLEAN EVERYBODY'S -- I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE CITY. I STARTED MY BUSINESS CLEANING THAT OUT FOR $200. I CAN PUT AN EMPLOYEE WITH 401K. WE DON'T NEED RETIREMENT PLAN FOR SOMEBODY TO DO ONE BY ONE WHEN I CAN GET A BIGGER SQUARE FOOTAGE. I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU, IF YOU GET CALLS THAT SOMEBODY COMPLAINS AT YOU, LET'S GET IT DOWN TO $200 AND WE NEED TO GET IT DOWN, WE CAN GET IT DOWN. WE'LL MAKE MONEY. WE'RE ABOUT MAKING MONEY. REMEMBER THAT, IMMIGRANTS ARE THE ONES THAT WORK. I'LL GET THE WORK DONE. JUST SEND THEM TO ME. JUST DON'T GIVE OUR TAXES OUT. THANK YOU. >> ROSEMARY. >> OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT I'D BE UP AGAIN. I THOUGHT FROM WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER THAT I WOULD PROBABLY GET MY GENERAL COMMENT AND MY COMMENT ON O-24-42 COMBINED. THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DEFERRING O-24-42. BECAUSE I KNOW A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE AT MY CHURCH WERE HOPING TO MAKE COMMENT AND I GUESS THEY SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL COMMENT INSTEAD OF THE PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. SO THEY THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T BEING CALLED AT ALL. I GOT AN EMAIL THEY WERE ALL HEADING HOME BECAUSE THEY FELT THEY WOULDN'T GET A CHANCE TO BE HEARD. I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU AS YOU WORK ON O-24-42 PLEASE DO TAKE THE TIME TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHAT CHANGES ARE BEING PROPOSED AND TO PUT TOGETHER SOME REASONABLE COMMUNITY RESPONSES. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT LEGISLATION FOR GOOD OR EVIL. IT REALLY NEEDS TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR DEFERRING RATHER THAN CONTINUING. I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILOR BACA, THAT YOU CHANGED FROM CONTINUING TO DEFERRING SO THERE COULD ME COMMENT. PLEASE GIVE US TIME TO WORK WITH YOU. THANK YOU. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'M UNABLE TO FIND ANY MORE INDIVIDUALS ON ZOOM. THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL GO TO RA2. COUNCILOR BASSAN OR COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, RA2 AMEPPEDING ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 6A OF THE PROCEDURE OF ADOPTION CITY WIDE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND RESOLUTION. I MOVE A DO PASS. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS LEGISLATION -- TO ME IT'S A COMPANION BILL THAT WE PASSED LAST MEETING SO WE CAN CHANGE OUR RULES BEING THE CITY CHARTER SAYS ANYTHING PASSES WITH A MAJORITY VOTE PASSES BUT WE WANT TO CHANGE THE COUNCIL RULES TO SAY A CITY WIDE PRIORITY WOULD BE REQUIRING A UNANIMOUS VOTE. IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS MORE TECHNICAL OF NATURE. I'M GOING TO LET THEM ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION UNLESS COUNCILOR GROUT HAS SOMETHING TO ADD BEFORE THEN. >>COUN. GROUT: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MADAM SPONSOR, COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT REAL QUICKLY. WE HAVE IT UP PREPARED. WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES IS IT CORRECTS, WE HAD TO DO AN UPDATE ON THE RULES AND WE HAVE TO REMOVE PART OF THE -- RENAME THE SENTENCE ONLINE SIX AND SEVEN. IT'S A CLEAN UP. >>COUN. BASSAN: I MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT? MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE DID HAVE ONE PERSON. BUT THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE ON ZOOM. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MAKE THAT REAL CLEAR TONIGHT, AS FAR AS WE MOVED THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO LATER BUT WE GAVE EVERYBODY AN OPTION IF THEY WERE SPEAKING ON O-45 TO DO THAT. IF ANYBODY MISSED THAT, I THOUGHT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE PRETTY CLEAR. BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. COUNCILOR GROUT OR COUNCILOR BASSAN. OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BILL? BACK TO SPONSORS. >>COUN. BASSAN: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.